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Yeah it'll potentially reel in girls who were excited but slightly on the fence already, and otherwise girls who were already coming over will be curious and want to soak in it. It also kinda puts you both in a heightened sense of tension, since most of the clothes are off for sure and you're in this heated close space. Balls can be affected but only for a few months apparently, so if you want kids in a few YEARS potentially it shouldn't impact anything even if you go in the hot tub for an hour …
/r/seduction16/03/26 08:33 PM
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I have no idea what some of the other commenters are smoking with this one. I got a hot tub a few years ago, primarily for joint and muscle fatigue, for relief, and for general enjoyment. I use it almost every day. I have friends over for parties and we all get in with drinks. And yes, especially, I've had many girls get in eagerly. Cannot be overstated. Got to a point where sometimes I'd be flirting with a girl at a bar and casually mention I wanna go home and get in the hot tub, and SHE would …
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:13 PM
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Many such cases. The core problem tends to be dissociation from social environments, low motivation leading to low effort, and/or a refusal to do and exhibit things that make you appear to be a Man, to Women. Yeah being short gives you a small disadvantage but it's not that big an excuse, I know shirt guys who get laid at will and tall guys who get scared at the thought of talking to girls. Baseline requirements (not advice, not suggestions, REQUIREMENTS): -Work out more. Get muscles. -Start goi…
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:56 PM
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Yeah this is a thing. Not specific to cats but specific to "the type that has YOU as her type". I'm pretty sure the past three girls I actually dated listen to most of the same podcasts and watch and like some of the same youtubers. Half the girls I've ever been with own a lizard or snake. Similar personalities in some ways, not in others, but it can be uncanny to notice the commonalities. It's funny, but kinda goes to show that certain parts of people's brains can be very weirdly connected. A g…
/r/seduction03/03/26 06:27 PM
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Man, you just have to improvise and have a little courage. I know it's scary. It's gonna be scary for a while. You go out alone and you Talk To People. Some others here have it right, talk to Guys too, befriend the guys, befriend their girlfriends even! If you strike up a convo with a girl and she's not single, don't just discount her, try to be actually friendly, genuinely, without any real goals beyond that. I've befriended some great regulars at bars and then in some cases they'll wing you or…
/r/seduction18/02/26 01:47 AM
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Try to catch her gaze with a glance first, then slide over but don't look at her too much. Heavy eye contact to a girl who's alone especially can be too intimidating. It's okay to make her nervous. But only a little. Say something cheeky. About her or yourself, just not a strong compliment or a brag. Can be really dumb, if your cadence comes off knowingly. "Lookin' lonely there. Room for one more?" "I see you're a party animal like myself." "You got a red solo cup too? Shoot, I was hoping for a …
/r/seduction04/02/26 03:16 AM
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Yeah, I think we're of the same mind on this. I may have tried to do too much in one post but the focus really is just all these posts here about Constant Rejection from guys who might very well do okay if they changed just a little bit, and their biggest problem is deflating like a bouncy castle with a hole in it the moment a girl gives them a No for any reason. Even a girl they never had a shot with. Guys gotta stop caring so much in those moments. You can go try with another girl, or another …
/r/seduction02/02/26 07:58 PM
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I agree with this in general but I don't think most guys really will make that distinction so heavily. It's also, like, if you go on a whole long date with a girl and then get rejected the reasons for it might be different than if you just met her at a bar and in one conversation she immediately turned away and stopped paying you any mind. At the end of the day though it IS a rejection, whether it's instantaneous or after a more thorough interaction, and it's going to feel that way sometimes, pe…
/r/seduction02/02/26 05:55 PM
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Ah, I see what you mean. In broad strokes there are absolutely universal aspects to this, I'm not sure we can reasonably argue about; Don't be needy, simpy, and overly emotional. Don't freak out over nothing or get super jaded, possessive, or jealous for no reason. Don't pressure her into things. Don't make her validate your every decision or feeling. Absolutely don't quintuple text a girl who's ignoring you for a few days. Absolutely don't buy a whole bouquet of flowers for a first date. Absolu…
/r/seduction01/02/26 08:56 PM
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Oh man, yeah, IOIs are huge, but imperfect, and sadly you're just not going to get them from a lot of girls that WOULD be interested if you can spark something there by approaching first. Rather, some girls are just shy and introverted or flat out kinda helpless at flirting, and aren't going to be doing the techniques you will be looking out for. An extroverted, confident girl will eye up the guy she likes the most in a venue and try to beckon him with that and body language. Smiles, maybe. A gi…
/r/seduction01/02/26 08:45 PM
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I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say with those numbers here; you're never gonna get a very high % success because most girls will Not Be Into You By Default, to a degree that you will not overcome even with the right attitude. Girls don't like simpy depressive scaredy cat guys, whether they're lanky anime nerds or tall brooding hunks or hipsters or any other bracket or category of person. You might not wanna get with a 300 pound girl no matter how cute and fun her personality is. …
/r/seduction01/02/26 08:15 PM
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I'm going to make a whole post about this because I keep seeing it all the time. Yes it's a numbers game, but it's WAY more important to actually find the right circumstances where Something Can Happen Easily (not necessarily an immediate lay but maybe just a number that leads to a date that leads to a lay, we're counting that for my opinion here). In order of importance: The circumstances are #1. The attitude and vibes you put out are #2. The actual numbers, making sure to get out there and Try…
/r/seduction01/02/26 05:39 PM
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I've said this here before but the ONLY time I have gotten girls back after they very clearly stepped away is by genuinely stepping away HARD yourself. Don't BLOCK her but absolutely give zero attention or minimal if you have to see her in person. Make no moves. Ask no questions. Then, go work out more. Buy some new clothes. Get yourself feeling and looking better. Still don't talk to her. Be polite if you have to but again, no moves, no flirting, no attempt to get her to reconsider. Just wait a…
/r/seduction29/01/26 09:58 PM
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Natural teasing, really. Just can't be too planned out, too rehearsed. I've had fairly innocuous back and forth flirty texts or in person talks where a girl pushes back a little and I just off the cuff go "Oh I'll have to punish you for that" or "Careful now, keep misbehaving and I'll be tying you up" or "You bite at me like that, I'm inclined to bite back". The idea is to make it a threat, technically, but with a playful, unserious vibe. Sends the message that you probably will actually do that…
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:49 PM
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Nah nah don't change it too much. Being upfront enough about it is what's gonna get you laid in general, and the girls who say that and still go for you when you're clear can't blame you for your honest intentions lol. I would avoid having a strict canned line though. Try riffing on it more. "Break backs" is actually a pretty good phrase for this. It's subtle but even the sluttiest girls will be unhappy if you say something like "I just want lots of sex" even if it sort of means the same thing. …
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:20 PM
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If you're only looking at Short Term women who have really slutty photos, yeah that might be fine. Don't be disingenuous, naturally. Girls like guys who at least lean toward dominant and assertive, not innocent and submissive. Showing an edge and a willingness to be blunt and bold can work in your favor, it's just going to alienate a lot of girls who want at least a LITTLE more connection than that. It's really dependent on what you want though. The girls who respond well might fuck but they're …
/r/seduction29/01/26 02:50 PM
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No lies told xD Yeah dude eventually I might lean that way if I have to but I git my strong preferences still. And a lovely relationship right now with a dorky metalhead who's somehow not actually unhinged.
/r/seduction24/01/26 04:00 PM
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Not even hyperbolic actually. It sounds silly phrased that way but it's the best way to actually drill it into people. Soooo many guys will be like "oh I can just lie" or "I can use a line that makes me sound cooler/funnier/more confident than I really am". Girls can tell. Always. Promise.
/r/seduction23/01/26 11:31 PM
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Slowly getting hotter now but most of my best successes came before I started workout out man. I've been scrawny as hell all my life. Not short but not tall, a little under 6ft, always under 150 pounds. Belly that made me look pregnant til recently. When I say it's all vibes I mean it. Some of that is in the tonality too, cadence with your voice. If you sound positive, a little edgy, maybe even silly, you can run far with that energy. Turn it into flirtation, get devious, mischievous. I would te…
/r/seduction23/01/26 09:03 PM
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This is a really good breakdown, and something that's very hard for a lot of guys to understand. I ruined a couple great relationships by chasing like that. Triple texting, clarifying, validating. Going way above and beyond what was comfortable or necessary for either of us. Didn't want to be alone again. Went about it all wrong. What I also see sometimes is guys taking a High Horse and being like "well I need her to tell me that she still likes me because my feelings have to matter to, and she …
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:22 PM
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Depends quite heavily on the girls you want to attract. I've spent the past few years leaning into high saturation, colorful, but streetwear style aesthetics. Jackets with patterns. Band shirts or something bright. Learn contrasts and neutrals, which colors look best together AND against your skin tone. However, I'm only into alt/emo/goth girls, tomboys, the type who have a few tattoos and listen to Sleep Token lol. Reeling those in with my style figured out was piss easy, but if you're in a bas…
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:08 PM
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I might make a whole post about this but you REALLY gotta just relax and get Out Of Your Head. It's all Vibes dude. Girls are supernatural creatures that can smell your insecurities, your overthinking, your phony lines, your forced bravado. You have to BE that cool, suave guy.....or you have to wing it. Really wing it. Be honest about your intentions, maybe even vulnerable, and you'll do better than the guy who's trying a rehearsed line he convinced himself will work one of these days. I've walk…
/r/seduction23/01/26 03:59 PM
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I used to think this way too. "Oh if I like her even a little I better do SOMETHING." Go for the kiss even when it doesn't feel right or natural. Try too hard to find excuses or monents to touch her on a date. Try to oull girls back to my place even if there's not much of a vibe. This is an easy rabbit hole to go down, but it's contextual too. You meet a girl at a bar and she leaves the bar with you, even just to go to another bar? You make out in the car. You just do. She already wanted to and …
/r/seduction22/10/25 08:56 PM
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You need style with that my guy. Flair. An actual bona fide sense of aesthetics. Two men walk into a bar, yeah? One is dressed in a standard, plain, grey or navy colored suit. He looks professional, but business-like, as if he's just come from a meeting, as if he's there to sell you insurance policies. The other has a provocative, brightly colored suit, maybe a purple or midnight blue or even lime green. Or if it's grey it's patterned, checkered or textured. Maybe looks more victorian, Renaissan…
/r/seduction18/10/25 05:03 PM
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Yes but no. You kinda need a reason. One that isn't pathetic or bullshit. If she posts a story very relevant to you somehow, or something you genuinely like and could talk about, you can respond to that (privately) I've had times where this works. Pop out of nowhere after several weeks or even months. Casually just open a conversation maybe. Keep it VERY light. Do NOT ask her out again right away if at all. There's not much harm in it. The contrast is.....if SHE thinks of you. Gets curious. She …
/r/seduction16/09/25 10:01 PM
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Frankly, it's a silly, stupid problem to have, in hindsight for me, as I suffered the same situation for most of my 20s. After college I did not meet anyone. Made no new friends or hobbies, nothing. Had a couple relationships, yes, but it wasn't until close to 30 that I finally decided "fuck it I'm going to bars alone and socializing there." I did so at many places for months until I was known, had new friends, and was being included on events, parties, and new circumstances. Now hot girls I kno…
/r/seduction06/09/25 11:16 PM
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People who don't go anywhere don't get laid much man. It can be that simple. Lots of guys have this problem. Maybe you look good, but you don't go out much. Don't have a lot of outgoing friends. Don't really like bars and such. Well, that's the problem, broadly speaking. You could be hot as hell and still have no maidens because they don't know you, can't vouch for you to others, or aren't even MEETING you. Might get a few from dating apps sometimes but even in 2025 you gotta try to be more soci…
/r/seduction06/09/25 07:00 AM
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I think a lot of guys don't realize how effective and useful it can be to just be around out in public and have friends you are seen with. Don't have friends that go out at night? No problem. I didn't either. Went out alone and made some. People talk "cold approach" and "warm approach" but sometimes you should just try being there, making friends, talking casually, not trying to approach at all. I've had girls come after me just because they see me relaxed with buddies, or with other girls, just…
/r/seduction29/08/25 04:00 PM
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Best player I know is actually 5'7. Dude is surrounded by hot girls all the time. Has fucked all of them. Most would fuck him again if he let them, and he wouldn't. He doesn't care. He has a good face but a very gay slightly higher pitched voice, a little muscle but not a lot. He just does not care and they can all tell. He's not nervous. He's unapologetically himself. We should all yearn for that level of confidence and willingness to be as true and real and sometimes foul as possible, but it g…
/r/seduction25/08/25 05:14 PM
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Very flattering if accompanied by relative certainty of attraction; if a girl seems nervous but isn't so withdrawn or standoffish about it as to make the dynamic (and her intentions) unclear, it's delightful. I find the best route in either case is actually to just lightly tease the girl about how nervous she seems, because it brings levity. And shows that the guy isn't REALLY taking it seriously or gonna make a big deal about her difficult or perhaps frantic mental state. That said.....yeah, a …
/r/seduction25/08/25 05:10 PM
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Girl, just go flirt with him. Touch his shoulder. Giggle. You're already in the Zone for this, you know? It's not like he said "I don't like you leave me alone". Dude was already all over you. Just because sex didn't happen doesn't mean it's a wash or any kind of rejection. If you act too aloof about this he might feel like you saw it as a mistake in the moment, or YOU lost interest. The note helps but it isn't a good call to impulsive action in this context; just tease him, reel him in, stare a…
/r/seduction25/08/25 05:03 PM
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It's absolutely more about overall look than raw weight man. And vibes too, of course. But really. I used to be 180 and almost 30% fat. Then I dropped to like 135 and 18% for ages. No muscle to speak of. Twigs for arms. Got with some of the hottest girls I have ever even seen like that. Now I've put on muscle, get more choosing signals. More immediate attention. But it's not as particular you must be expecting. And it's probably easier being bigger than smaller, to a certain point. Your standard…
/r/seduction01/06/25 04:35 AM
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Goated comment tbh
/r/seduction23/05/25 06:37 AM
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God this is exactly what happened to me in my last real relationship. I knew she was chaotic at the start. But it seemed manageable. Then it only got worse. The more she trauma dumped and got depressed, the more I tried to "fix" and the more distant she became. I couldn't wrap my head around it at the time. Even having been around, successful, cautious, but once we were committed, I dropped my guard and my Strength too far.
/r/seduction17/05/25 05:47 PM
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Absolutely emphatically agree. With a small caveat: a better aesthetic opens more doors. Girls who wouldn't have really looked my way, or wanted to talk to me, do easily now. I've seen the difference firsthand. That's just it though. It's an opportunity for a good connection and excitement. A guy who looks like a total mess but has all those other things in spades will GET fewer "looks" and opportunities and such but might foster a fantastic relationship with whoever, well, "gives him a shot." A…
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:35 AM
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I've seen gross balding fat guys pull the hottest girls around. I've seen tall fit muscular dudes fail repeatedly. I've BEEN the guy who's getting a new, hot girl often, before I started working out, when I was crazy scrawny. It's all vibes and attitude. I look better than I used to but I'm perhaps more insecure, and wanting more than I did too, so the hottest girls take interest and then often lose it. When I didn't give a shit and didn't want something meaningful, they stuck with me and did wh…
/r/seduction30/04/25 04:00 PM
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The funny thing is, I only smile so big and so often because I remember a time when I couldn't at all. It's sincere, but it's easy to notice the difference in the attention I get when I'm practically overflowing with love of life versus when I'm a bit more pessimistic, depressed, listless even. That wave of melancholy manifests as an attractive, disciplined quiet and intrigue. Truthfully. Sometimes. I think girls want a Problem to Fix even more than many guys do. They see a broken tattered man w…
/r/seduction25/04/25 06:04 AM
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I've experienced this as well. In my case I'd say it's emergent from darkness, though. An odd conundrum; I have successes in this venue here and there, but I always find the most intimate, most significant people and relationships when I'm actually at a very very low point, mentally, emotionally, and in my life in general. Consistently that is what happens. I believe it's because, well, once a sense of gloom takes hold in a particular way, you reach a nirvana-like "I Don't Give A Fuck" vibe. Int…
/r/seduction24/04/25 06:31 PM
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Aw yeah, love your post too man. Tbh I've come to believe 99% of problems us guys have in these situations are really just reacting too strongly to whatever the girl is doing. Better off just not even worrying about it. That's why actual genuine morons, debilitated men, get the girls. They don't stop to think, analyze, rationalize, and understand. They say "man. Women be crazy." And continue with their lives. This commenter, and guys in general, WOULD be better off operating with very high knowl…
/r/seduction26/03/25 03:04 AM
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Oh. Yeah. That shit matters a ton to most women, moreso than it might to you. I think guys tend to be more open to philosophical disagreement, but something like that causing a big reaction that early on, she actually might have just hated you from there. I will say though I've had a couple times where 2nd or 3rd date the girl is pulling back hard. Might mean she met someone else....but in my case each time it was an issue of lost value when I wasn't in the right frame. From your description it …
/r/seduction25/03/25 07:35 PM
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Not OP but bro you kinda ghosted that girl. Maybe she was nervous or not that into you in the moment or whatever. She said Home Safe and you never contacted her again and then deleted her everywhere? Why? What are you protecting yourself from? Yeah she could have texted again herself but in those situations most girls won't, not that early on and not if they're still nervous. You probably really hurt her feelings tbh. Or just creeped her out on the date, that's harder to know.
/r/seduction25/03/25 06:02 PM
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I think it's entirely about how YOU feel about the specific girl. If you're gonna be foaming at the mouth. Or all giddy. Or waiting for any possible chance to "get with her" then no, it isn't a good idea. Because that very fact, of your view of the girl, is what will prevent it from actually happening. Girls can tell. And they don't like that. Girls get with Guy Friends all the time and some of my best friends have relationships or marriages based like that, but it's ALWAYS after the guy has suc…
/r/seduction27/12/24 03:53 PM
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Here's the thing. Guys have a type. Girls have a type too. I'm sexy in more of a Pretty Boy way. I go out looking like I'm in a punk band. Girls joke that I'm fruity but they do it while also asking if they get to wear a collar tonight. Or when they're allowed to come over again. That's the best dynamic. And you can't force it. You just have to simultaneously BE her type, this particular sort of guy, but also BE the aggressive, dominant man, especially when it comes to, well, bedroom activities.…
/r/seduction02/12/24 06:47 PM
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Gave too much of only what SHE wanted. You cuddled her when she asked. You joined in the shower when she asked. You failed to show dominance. I'm a little fruity too dude but when I have a clear opportunity I'm pulling girls around. Physically. Shoving them against a wall just to stare close and turn away. Dancing wildly in public and teasing them. A girl could be 95% ready for sex and turn you down simply because you're acting TOO HORNY and SIMPY. Even the best body man will lose out for acting…
/r/seduction02/12/24 04:55 PM
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Transformation is certainly still in progress. It's been about 6 months. 5'11, went from about 130 to about 155....but that was in less than 3 months. Since then I think it's been more shifting the fat gain into muscle. It does feel odd that my actual weight plateaued after skyrocketing, but I can't knock the results. Friends and family now occasionally ASK ME to show off the changes by wearing short sleeves and flexing lol
/r/seduction29/11/24 05:56 PM
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In my physique? 2 months. In how girls treated me / noticed my physique? 3 months. But I was going from very very low muscle (and fat) to a good chunk of both. After about 4 months was the first time a girl actually wanted to touch my arms unprompted, basically. To feel and admire the progress. Of course, confidence about it and the ability to make the situation playful and humorous are very important.
/r/seduction29/11/24 05:53 PM
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As someone who's gone this year from total skinny twink boy to somewhat toned with a real curve to my arms, I can honestly say, it's been massive. Even when I'm not looking or trying, sometimes girls just notice. Sometimes now, because I'm excited about my transformation, I get a chance to sort of naturally flex or show off, or talk a little about it.....to girls that have known me a while. Who Knew Me as the scrawny fuck. They're all surprised and excited. They know I worked hard to do this. I …
/r/seduction29/11/24 04:08 AM
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As in, same pattern? Getting stuck going nowhere?
/r/seduction24/11/24 05:18 PM
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It's an issue of how this started, man. I've had a few times where I was going to see a girl, or saw her once, and ended up focusing on another girl instead, or vaguely losing interest but getting curious later. If you were Talking Hat Way and then no longer, AND it wasn't simply her rejecting you, THEN you cann 100% go "hey are you single now? (Or better more like "Hey, I'm actually available now and curious about you, wanna meet up?") See, if she was potentially disappointed by you being the o…
/r/seduction23/11/24 11:24 PM
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Normally I'd say it depends how she touches you, and how she responds to you touching her. Even lightly. Casually. If a girl leans into it heavily, she's probably down for almost anything. I like to make small moves but tease a lot; with the right energy, you can have a girl more desperate for touch, for kissing, for sex even, than most men would be. It's tough to be consistent though, I think, for anyone. Still, to be confident the deal is essentially sealed already I would say....try gauging h…
/r/seduction19/11/24 11:57 PM
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Girl I've been seeing a while now, I met at a bar and after talking a while made a joke about my friends seeing us flirting and not interjecting. She went "Oh..... you're flirting?" I wasn't hiding it. But she didn't pick up on it until I was direct. She liked that. She was fully onboard. And she was flirting too, really, but she didn't fully understand her own feelings yet either. I don't think most girls actually do. They want you to be direct just as much as you might want THEM to be direct..…
/r/seduction13/11/24 02:46 PM
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These comments reminded me I should get MY T checked lol. That said. As a reasonably successful man harboring most of these traits too. Probably demisexual myself, does add up. I'm never lonely and don't really struggle with women anymore. Sure, I don't get with every girl I'd like to, but half that is just a lack of motivation when I already have good ones lining themselves up. This original post is mostly spot on though, and WAY more important for guys attracted to their friends. I've done the…
/r/seduction11/11/24 05:10 PM
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This is actually probably too pessimistic of you. Friendzone is where a girl STOPS a guy, like, direct rejection, and says "we should just be friends" or some equivalent. "i thought we were friends" was probably, as other commenters noted, a chance to say "We were, now I have something else in mind" or maybe even "Oh yeah, best friends. Super close" (as you pull her in or at least make a gesture). Show intent. Don't back down easily. If she pushes back harder on it "No we're friends and nothing …
/r/seduction02/10/24 05:31 PM
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This is the best response. Playfully negative to hers. It's just about the only way.
/r/seduction02/10/24 05:26 PM
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Yeah, if a girl from Hinge acts that way you probably can't fix it (or, really, her). This is a case of bad self-value. A lot of people are saying, just say no, stop talking to her, whatever. Tbh I heard that a lot and tried it myself. They're usually just gone then. The one thing that DOES work occasionally for me is to say shit like this: "Hey, I'm looking for somebody to run with, join me on my adventures. Not just another friend. If that isn't you, best of luck!" And then leave it. Sometimes…
/r/seduction01/10/24 10:30 PM
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Yeah this is all true idk why people are arguing lmao. One caveat however: women DO want romantic desire from the ONE man they perceive as THEIR best option (which may change based on meeting other men or a particular man's behavior). It's a game of perception really. In the past couple years I've gotten laid from many friends, bar hookups, past lovers, and everything in between. But I've also been friendzoned a bunch. Because sometimes I treat a girl a little too well early on for what SHE expe…
/r/seduction01/10/24 10:24 PM
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I'd like to challenge the first point a little. You can meet a girl, cold open, do just fine, but I've had situations backfire hard when I try to make plans or show much interest before getting solid indicators from the girl. Too often girls will end up surprised (negatively) if I'm trying to hang out or give them any attention soon after initial interactions. My successes mostly come from just talking and flirting lightly and then getting Big Signs back. Girls being super flirty and playful wit…
/r/seduction30/09/24 04:46 PM
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Sort of, but it's in the tone. Teasing correctly means you SOUND positive but what you SAY is negative. Like you're joking around with the boys. If a girl you're talking to told a story about getting lost, you can give a wry smile when something about directions comes up and go "Yeah but you'll just get lost again" and she'll giggle and hopefully so will you. If you're too stoic, or not goofy enough in your attitude, it'd just sound mean. It's not about being mean. It's about poking at her a lit…
/r/seduction25/09/24 02:17 PM
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This has been an issue for me the past couple years, often, and I'd say the problem is prevalent for many similar guys: I soften when I get close to someone I see a future with. Crazy, right? I start spending more and more time with a girl and start caring a lot and then I shift too far away from the mysterious, suave, sexy dude she was into. Maybe even fell for. So, if I get into a relationship, or feel it heading there, or even WANT it to be that way without saying anything.....I start subtly …
/r/seduction23/09/24 04:16 PM
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Oh wow, this is quite a post to stumble upon for me. I've had almost the same exact issue. Even as I've improved so much on the early stages, flirting, courting, living a fun life and putting out the best vibes so women want to come to bed with me. Except. Yeah. Most of them disappear afterward. I think, when it comes down to it....the girls who will put out right away when they barely know you are the ones who will leave at the slightest hint that you actually like them. It's a bit of a curse. …
/r/seduction31/08/24 03:05 AM
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A caveat for you: some of this is type too. As much as Seddit likes to suggest just being attractive or not there IS variance here that shouldn't be sidestepped. In the middleground mostly. One woman's 5/10 might be another woman's 8/10. Yeah if you look like Ryan Gosling you're gonna get a lot of hard eye contact but not every woman would want even that, or the most chiseled, most conventionally attractive men. I specify the middleground because if you're showing up to bars in an old bad lookin…
/r/seduction24/08/24 07:11 PM
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I shy away People are giving very detailed and logical answers, and I get that, but what it comes down to is....you gotta trick your brain a little here, so you look at strangers you find attractive almost the way you look at a girl who's currently naked and riding you like a goddamn stallion. You fucking like what you see. You're eyeing her like she's about to empty your balls just because they're full. A glance up and down. A smile following it. That's the mechanical, but it's the thoughts tha…
/r/seduction21/08/24 09:15 PM
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how exactly The replies below this have been good from both of you, but I want to address this here: Core vibe....and playful push. That's honestly most of it. When you're nervous you can't clap back effortlessly or impulsively. You gotta have the mindset first and then develop a rhythm for it. One of the best situations I had recently was a girl at a bar a couple weeks ago who caught my eye when I was actually about to leave. I just gave her a Look. You know, the Look that says "I see you and I…
/r/seduction19/08/24 10:06 PM
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that important See that's the problem here. How important is it, and in what qualities exactly? Very hard to say. However, I know that most guys I see at bars have bigger muscles and better jawlines than me. Plenty are taller. Yet I've been leaving bars with girls consistently lately, almost effortlessly. However, I was struggling for a couple months before this. I think I can explain why: I dress well and carry myself well, do a bit of peacocking; highly recommend getting some well-fitted cloth…
/r/seduction19/08/24 05:57 PM
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Literally me. I talk about this here sometimes, but I was getting that in my teens and used to get defensive. Now I lean into it a bit. I paint my nails and wear eyeshadow, I'm a bit too skinny/twink-ish still, but.....I've gotten quite a few very attractive tiny alt girls doing double takes when I'm as flamboyant as can be. Sometimes they can't tell and they're like "I thought you were gay!" As we're making out after meeting at a bar. It's great. Own it dude. Being defensive makes you seem inse…
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:41 PM
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Tbh I try to avoid openers that just call a girl cute/pretty/etc., I used to try that and it didn't pan out much if ever. I'd say my successes have come from more direct conversations and escalating the flirty vibes slowly. A cute girl knows you think she's cute, and gets that kind of comment a hundred times a day. If you can't stand out even a little then you're just another dude saying the same shallow shit. Saying something about her outfit or her hair or something she really put effort into,…
/r/seduction19/07/24 07:26 PM
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I'd say the issue is one of environmental attitude and reception. You'd have to have extremely refined game and tonality, or otherwise be an absolute stud, to really pull a girl who's just out and about in the daytime, especially alone, especially in 2024. Women are sensitive and nervous about that. There's a billion horror stories they all tell each other about the creepy guy at the grocery store or on the sidewalk or whatever. I can say honestly I haven't really learned and haven't really trie…
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:51 PM
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I think this is a question of what's really disingenuous. In my recent relationship I was genuine in the beginning, I just happened to feel calm, confident, smooth, and sexy all of the time. Then when things got real, and exclusive, and there was some uncertainty and some inconsistent behavior with the girl, I changed my behavior and attitude. Accommodating too much. Giving too much. Allowing too much bullshit without really making an issue of it. I slowly came across more as a weak willed and n…
/r/seduction18/07/24 04:28 PM
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Send her a cheeky text in like a month man, girls like this come back around all the time, especially if she didn't explicitly tell you she doesn't like you or want to see you again.
/r/seduction18/07/24 04:18 PM
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This is what I'm doing right now actually. I focused too much on my last relationship and probably smothered it into dust. Was striking out a lot after that, maybe from heartbreak or too much interest displayed constantly. Beyond that. Well. I haven't gone more than about a month without somebody for.....gosh, 10 years, just about. Taking a sabbatical to focus on myself. On getting fit. On other things in life. It's a good idea. Fellas, lemme tell ya. Even if you can get laid pretty consistently…
/r/seduction16/07/24 03:20 PM
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Yeah. Treat it as not a big deal. Stop avoiding her for sure but don't seek her out too hard either.
/r/seduction10/07/24 01:38 PM
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Nah. Don't be cold. Just don't be too warm either. Treat her like somebody you suddenly ran into after years of not seeing each other, but it's, like, on your way out of a store or whatever. Don't try to stay and chat unless she's pushing for it, but be polite and courteous. The idea should be (and I know how hard this is I fail this too) that she has to put in effort to get more of your attention than some random person you're not crushing on would get. It'd maybe be a little different if you d…
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:43 AM
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Oh! I've been here before. Do nothing. Date other women. Not in a "you lost all possible shots forever" way but in a "it's better for you" way. You have mutual friends and hangouts anyway. Given time, and space she might start wondering why you're not trying to get with her or acting wimpy anymore. I've had girls go from LJBF to "come over tonight I want you" before. Usually though, honestly, it's just been a one night stand or a few. That dynamic isn't necessarily good for anything serious so i…
/r/seduction10/07/24 02:32 AM
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Other replies seem to not really be acknowledging the fact that you haven't tried contacting her directly apparently since April, right? Dude. Send another text. Be a little playful about it. "Hey, so, I got pretty busy myself. You got a little time in your schedule this week? Would love to catch up." Boom. Simple. If you haven't texted this girl in months no way in hell she thinks you're chasing her lmao Also, real talk, people DO get busy....or she was nervous. Or her interest was just low. Bu…
/r/seduction18/06/24 04:11 PM
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I actually find this really strange and surprising; I had to have a brainscan done in a huge machine and then have the results analyzed by a team to determine that I was indeed fit for Asperger's (now considered part of autism). Perhaps it's not always the case, to that degree, but I should hope every diagnosis is more involved than what you described here. I also think it's useful because us autistic guys have enough in common in terms of mentality, struggles, and some personality traits that w…
/r/seduction17/06/24 11:23 PM
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Man, you gotta be bold all the time. Make dirty jokes. Playfully mention her flirting well with you. Say things like "Oh, I'm not that easy" or "you're pretty good at this" or "I could lose a little more time with you"...hinting at things, being subtle, keeping a vibe going. That's the goal, really. Nothing further. If you're trying to get a direct confirmation or a confession or for her to just say "Please fuck me immediately that's what I want here is your neon light sign like it's goddamn Bla…
/r/seduction17/06/24 04:08 AM
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Heheheheheheheh. That's why I pop in like this sometimes
/r/seduction15/06/24 12:35 AM
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Yeah man I have ALL the autism lol. I struggle sometimes still but it's really about treating it as a learning experience, something to dive into and understand better. I'm not always in my perfect attitude and vibe but I pull girls from bars and dating apps here and there. Almost always close with sex, many turned into casual or FWB. And I'm not a guy who looks very good by default. But I wear cool clothes that look good on me. I stand out and own it. I have some success somewhat consistently, …
/r/seduction14/06/24 08:59 PM
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Oh! Love this question. I do this all the time. Sometimes end up making out with one. Had a chance or two to go home with a girl but didn't take it (I'm very picky lol). Mainly show a lot of energy. Be more hype than anyone else. It makes things less awkward when you're all positive. Could be slightly overbearing for the shy girls, but it can work, I promise. You just gotta own it. Like you could dance too. You don't have to dance WELL you just have to seem like you're having the best time. Girl…
/r/seduction14/06/24 01:18 AM
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Yes exactly. Just an important caveat that it's not always something that matches up to reality or any kind of objective measure. I know a guy who's very wealthy, 6ft, perfect jawline, great hair, great career too, etc.....but he's got a really dejected attitude, monotone voice, minimal experience, and he can't get a single date to save his life. I'm basically a twink and I still get laid regularly without trying. I could do better if I had his looks/money/status, but he can't do as well as me w…
/r/seduction11/06/24 10:48 PM
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Because men can be won over and women can't. In the most direct sense, that's my experience and perspective. If you as a guy kinda like a girl but didn't already think you wanted her as a girlfriend, or as just a lover even, you might be won over by things like extra attention, interest from her, or even just her being bold and asking you. None of this applies to girls. Girls have to make up their minds BEFORE you do anything advancing the circumstances, then they expect you to lead in the very …
/r/seduction11/06/24 09:14 PM
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It's a word to describe a feeling the girl has, toward a guy. It's entirely separate from any logic or conscious thought. She cannot control it. Almost like tastebuds; not every girl will like wine, not every girl will like tequila, it's not really a choice they're making. She either has butterflies or she doesn't. Girls know this and expect it to just happen naturally. Same reason girls will sometimes be hung up on a total loser or deadbeat or even abusive guy. Butterflies supercede everything …
/r/seduction11/06/24 08:15 PM
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A few key points here: Always ALWAYS let the girl escalate the status of the relationship, but also don't accept a decrease.friends -> FWB -> dating -> relationship. Only forward, never backward. But don't bring it up, I've tried that route, bites you in the ass every time. Also, for "butterflies" it's a deep feeling most girls really need to want to continue seeing a guy in any kind of serious way, or see any potential. Girls value those feelings above any sense of mental or romantic connection…
/r/seduction11/06/24 06:15 PM
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So fun fact, I've been in this situation several times. Most of them DO come back, and some of those will completely change their tune about it. You did well rejecting the LJBF in the moment, I think if you accept it and try to actually just be friends with the girl it's unrecoverable in terms of the sexual/romantic dynamic. Well, at least short term. I've had girls who were "just friends now" suddenly text me late at night asking me to come over, or try to make moves on me suddenly, but that's …
/r/seduction11/06/24 04:26 PM
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Lol hardly. Actually, I know a guy locally who frequents the same bars as me..... who's like 5'5, hispanic, stick thin, wears earrings and somewhat basic clothes, but ALWAYS has a girl. Or two. Or three. Following him around. I'm not sure how he does it. I've seen him with them enough though. He's just very chill, funny, probably gives off laidback cute boy vibes. I'm out there trying to meet people and he makes it all look effortless. I should try to talk to him about it actually but I'm not re…
/r/seduction11/06/24 06:46 AM
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I've just turned 30 myself and every aspect of my life has improved vastly in the last couple years. Still working on fitness, but you know, it's all a journey. For seduction specifically? I used to barely ever pull medium cute girls at the top of my games. Now I've had nights, FWBs, and even relationships with absolutely lovely, attractive, awesome girls. All I really changed was my fashion and my attitude man. Guarantee it's not "too late" no matter what you look like, but you could always try…
/r/seduction10/06/24 11:17 PM
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I usually end up kissing in the parking lot after a bar/activity/etc. and inviting her back to my place. Some activities, like a walk in the park or whatever, you can just go for it there, but most girls don't wanna kiss a new boy in public even if they want him. For bars it depends, I kiss girls at clubs often but rarely take a new girl to a club. Most normal bars you'll stand out of you act too physical. Maybe not enough to get in trouble, but better to avoid it if you're not sure of the vibe.…
/r/seduction08/06/24 06:08 AM
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If there's high enough interest a girl will find an excuse to pull YOU aside and kiss you hard. But early on this is uncommon even if she's warming up to you plenty. For those kinds of dates, I usually go for a kiss in the parking lot afterward, but that's usually first-date and usually they're coming back to mine. Ideally you pick her up and ride in your car together. The logistics do matter but if the vibe is there it should be easy to just pull her aside when the time is right.
/r/seduction06/06/24 11:43 PM
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This might sound harsh but, well, men with any level of success and experience that isn't near-zero select for sex based on looks but for relationships moreso based on personality, attitude, common goals/habits/hobbies, and other, deeper, compatibility based things. So, I can say I've slept with a good number of very beautiful women, but some of them either turned me off by their behavior later on, showed too much focus on beauty for my interests (matter of taste, I like girls who wouldn't let t…
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:09 PM
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Yeah I actually did the reverse of this, sort of. I used to only wear basic normal clothes my parents got me. Now in my late 20s I did a major glow up. Bought some very unique outfits. Leaned toward punk and flashy aesthetics, started wearing a little guyliner, now I get attention from the goth chicks I always craved but who never looked at me as, well, like them. What's funny is this wasn't fake or a ploy, not for me. I just gained the courage to dress the way I always wanted to, and felt like …
/r/seduction29/05/24 03:46 PM
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In America at least, with women especially, generally if it's not a Yes it's a No, or at least, you can assume that. However, honestly, sometimes the most important factor is how you react to a No. Some girls will flake or reject you partly as a test, and if you're chill about it they'll hit you up later. Or if you hit them up again they'll be more keen for it. I've had girls I barely know text or call after months of silence, even if they ghosted me, and quickly want to sleep with me. Not all t…
/r/seduction22/05/24 11:36 PM
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I find I have the most success actually when it's around 70-30 push-pull. Tease a girl quite a bit, but with a smile. Give a compliment once in a while to show that you don't actually dislike her, but the main reason this is sexy is that weak willed men aren't willing to, say, call a pretty girl a bitch, even as a joke. The pretty girls know this so they're sort of looking for it. Specific examples aside, broadly speaking, lean into the idea of saying "wow you're such a bitch" the way you would …
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:33 PM
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Perhaps, but I don't entirely disagree with his point. It's tough because there's a sense of firmness and resolve in truly walling away at a moment's notice, but if you cut everyone out that easily you might wind up living a very lonely life. People make mistakes, change their minds, change their feelings, grow and learn all the time. A girl that doesn't want you now might want you in a month or a year. Is it really best to throw your hands up preemptively and say "Hmph! She had her chance! Good…
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:34 PM
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Okay. I see what you mean. I'm talking more from a place of rekindling or reconnecting, usually after a small mistake, a fumble, or some transgression that can be overcome. People sometimes go out a little and then get back together later, or maybe even properly date, break up, and figure it out down the line and wind up marrying. I don't think that's weakness, but it depends a bit on how it's done. I'd never advocate for begging or pleading. But trying to get back in touch with somebody isn't t…
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:18 PM
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Mixed bag. One became a girlfriend for a while, but I definitely messed that up with some bad behavior much later. Not related to this. Some of them became FWBs or one night stands though, and most of those I ended myself, usually because I just decided I was more into another girl. I stand by my point though, I think some girls don't have the guts to reach out even if they want to hear from you, or they may actually decide to see you again because they hear from you at the right time, later. If…
/r/seduction17/05/24 10:03 PM
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Seems you need some blunt-force trauma here dude: You have to decide that no women is indeed better than fat/ugly women. Have standards and adhere to them. Even if it doesn't work out easily. Even if you find nothing for a while. I'm considered very attractive these days and I still mostly get swiped on by fat girls. Because the fat girls will swipe on anyone they think might be willing to get with them, while the hot ones will swipe only on very specific dudes they're more sure about. Don't swe…
/r/seduction17/05/24 09:26 PM
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I will say to this, I have had success from slow but persistent pursuit a few times. Even without any response. If a girl isn't answering but isn't telling you off, you can hit her up once every few weeks and see if you can spark some interest back. Or she'll maybe reply to just tell you off eventually. But I've gotten whole relationships from girls who were shy and actually admired how I was still really interested in contacting but not desperate or constantly asking for anything. Girls can act…
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:53 PM
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Yepppp I'm in the same boat brother. I've slipped up too hard too many times. Staying firm in the face of a good woman isn't easy, especially when you've been down the same road so much. Takes time. Baby steps. The other answer that it's not even a YOU problem is possible though. Sometimes girls just get fixated on somebody else. Or they just disappear. Or they have mental health issues. They're gonna be that way unless they're absolutely obsessed with you, and good sex isn't gonna do much in th…
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:48 PM
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Real talk dude I've gone from that exact behavior to getting ghosted, blocked, ignored, or told off very quickly because of the other possibility another guy mentioned: acting too weak/needy. It's really fuckin difficult for a lot of guys, sometimes myself included, to have some great sex and then not start to feel like being more cuddly, more intimate. More warm. Treat her well. It can feel like "clearly she will want to do this again" but then you act some type of way. And to you it's probably…
/r/seduction17/05/24 07:33 PM
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Oh, I've fumbled this way a few times. Keep a girl around, but too close, and as just a friend, and flipping it back is gonna be really tough. I've also gotten with friends before, not all the time, but I'd say you have two options. Date somebody else as hot as her. Keep her around but don't flirt much. Introduce them. Make it clear that you can get other women of that caliber. Then she will want you when you're available again. If that happens, anyway. Take some space, on your own. Don't even a…
/r/seduction17/05/24 06:11 PM
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Pro tip: treat girls who aren't clearly rebuffing you with "I have a boyfriend" or literally showing off other guys in front of you as single and ready to mingle. Doesn't matter who else talks to her. Everyone is always competing, at least a little. But try turning the tables. What does she offer to you? Why should you give her attention? Being in a friend group can work, but try to not follow her around like a lost puppy, or even seek attention from her. See if she comes to you. See if she touc…
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:39 AM
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Ideal cold approach is at a venue where people are already social and you have sort of a solid reason. Girl is ordering a drink at the bar? You go up near her to get a drink. Now you're standing next to her. Both waiting. May as well start a conversation right? It's still cold it's just not.... what's the word....forced? Yeah. Don't force it. If you're in a bookstore looking at the Horror section and a cute girl ends up nearby looking at the same books you can ask for a recommendation. You don't…
/r/seduction11/05/24 01:53 AM
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Most important part honestly is harnessing some talent/skill/hobby. "I really like the way he plays pickleball" is so valid and real, and most men have no clue. They can just exist in a space, put no effort toward getting with women but be SEEN doing something at least mildly interesting and women will probably approach or make themselves available to be approached. Just have to learn to pick up on some signals. I think half the guys here just want a hot girl to jump on them and wrap their legs …
/r/seduction10/05/24 04:53 PM
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You probably gotta do something people will compliment you or give you attention for. Wearing outlandish stuff, being extra goofy in public, or showing off some skill (without pushing people to notice) can do wonders for the soul. I've seen dudes at festivals just juggle for a crowd, you know? Sometimes as men we need a logical starting point, so you might have to find something to be proud of and to impress others so you can really start looking in the mirror like "You know what? Yeah. I am hot…
/r/seduction09/05/24 11:00 PM
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I'm in a similar boat now man, but trust me, once it feels like they're back on the hook and curious about you there's a good chance they wanna meet up if you play your cards right. I'd wait a little longer if you think she's the type to send a "Hey!! How you been??" Text eventually, but some girls are too shy and will do cheeky passive shit like liking your stories until you try to get back with them. You just have to do it smoothly and confidently. If it's been more than 2 months and you haven…
/r/seduction06/05/24 03:10 PM
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Exaggerative comparisons here aside, really, you can affect your feelings substantially with perspective. A child who doesn't get ice cream on a summer day might cry and scream about it. An adult who doesn't get ice cream on a summer day might still think "ice cream would be nice actually" but won't react by crying and screaming if it doesn't happen. Train your brain a little. Stand up straight. A girl who you've just met sees no value in you? Too bad for her. You're pretty cool. Her loss, right…
/r/seduction05/05/24 12:28 PM
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Take rejections (especially from cold approaches) with a smile. Be utterly unbothered, not just inwardly, but in front of the girl. Two reasons: It allows you to keep rolling through the night/venue/etc. without stopping in your tracks and sulking, or worse, trying too hard to convince the girl. It's pretty sexy actually to not really care. Girls are very accustomed to guys who won't leave them alone or just get mad or desperate so even a total stranger will look a little better by taking things…
/r/seduction05/05/24 01:23 AM
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I really appreciate that dude. I will be, if it happens. Honestly, and for anyone else reading this, it's important to note that sleeping with somebody new actually helped me feel way better than I might have if I just stayed alone. It's not somebody I intend to date, sure, but it's a very attractive girl who knew my situation and wanted to give me a good time. Might have been waiting for her opportunity to some degree. I'd say it's VERY easy as a man, even a fairly attractive, charismatic man, …
/r/seduction22/04/24 06:07 PM
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I've had this happen before several times as well.....currently wondering if it will again tbh. Dated this girl a few months. Got exclusive. Tried a little too hard to cheer her up when she was depressed, I think it made me seem weak/needy. She stopped texting a couple weeks ago. No direct break up or whatever, but I'd say she's gone for now. I didn't even notice right away so I reached out a couple times but haven't in over a week. Thing is, she was CLINGY for a while, I mean really close, so I…
/r/seduction22/04/24 03:35 PM
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Thanks for sharing this. Yeah it's interesting. I will say, the last time my GF disappeared for a bit I worried and still put in effort, because I was sure she just needed reassurances, she'd expressed that before. Figure now I went too far. It's possible this is a test. To see if I get needy about it. I think I gotta stay strong and just leave it for a while. If she goes like a whole month without a word I'll just find other girls, that's not hard for me. Just haven't gotten attached/committed …
/r/seduction16/04/24 06:50 PM
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I'm actually realizing in this moment that I'm sort of in this situation right now. Except, well, it's my girlfriend, who locked me down several months ago, and things were great and consistent for quite a while. She's been getting distant but then coming back and being close and connected and great with me. And then occasionally just disappearing for a while. She'd talked about her depression and the way she clams up and worries about being a burden, and I was sympathetic (and trusted her not t…
/r/seduction16/04/24 04:39 PM
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If you guys aren't following hoe_math I'm really not sure why. Dude is the best at explaining these things, and implementing his advice quickly skyrocketed my successes personally. Casey Zander is good too just not as thorough in the right ways. Plus the hoe_math diagrams are essential. Seriously, I almost can't imagine not having that content now, even though I'm not available or looking anymore it's all good and all pertinent. Also, yeah, sometimes the PUA stuff goes too far and feels nasty an…
/r/seduction26/03/24 03:47 PM
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Had a few times I've gotten with girls who met me when they had a boyfriend and looked my way when they didn't anymore. It's more about being a great option without being needy or desperate. If you meet a girl at a bar or club who's unavailable, or meet her through a mutual friend, it's fine to just be cool, be fun, and maybe flirt lightly, just don't expect anything. Remember folks, girls are more likely to get with guys they know than guys they don't, and they WILL get with "friends", even fri…
/r/seduction24/03/24 08:34 PM
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Girls asking if you are gay is actually a really really damn good thing. Trust me. It means they want you but they're thinking, to some degree, "A man this good looking who actually takes care of himself, has good skin, etc. surely isn't straight" because the stereotype is that straight men are either slobby gangly messes or ridiculous beefy muscle heads. It's not true but it's common enough that a smartly dressed, clean, well-kempt, thin, professional looking man (that they actually want and li…
/r/seduction12/02/24 04:54 PM
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Unpopular opinion here, maybe, but as I've become more experienced and more successful I've found that women often don't know what they want, or have trouble making concrete decisions. Most guys can go on a date or two and think "She is cool, I want to see her again" or "She's lame and I lost interest" but girls will get all up in their heads about whether it's a good idea and why and they'll usually err on the side of caution and just not respond much or not go out. Even if they're leaning yes …
/r/seduction22/01/24 04:56 PM
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Yeah sounds similar. Some girls just can't actually make decisions and waffle about between seeming all about it and then pulling back hard. Sad. But also weirdly captivating huh? I think it's the confusion that gets to me in specific. The not understanding. Keeps them on my mind. Girls who just aren't into me, sure, whatever. Next. But the wishy-washy shit kills me.
/r/seduction05/11/23 01:17 AM
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Yeah man it's wild. I ran into a girl last night who'd been trying really hard to get my attention back, after we went out a while back and then went mostly NC. She seems crazy about me, about the idea of seeing me, reconnecting, etc. but when we met up recently she suddenly specified she just wants to be friends. I said no, naturally. Then last night just vibed and flirted a little, not expecting anything. Shit's weird man. Every other girl that acts like I'm a major prospect for her wants to r…
/r/seduction04/11/23 04:26 PM
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This is very good advice that's very hard to follow. Yeah, I'm dealing with a couple of textbook avoidant type girls right now. Weirdly, perhaps even toxically, I don't seem to gravitate toward other types quite as hard. I really like the ones that don't make things so easy, maybe. Idk if I can change that.
/r/seduction04/11/23 05:21 AM
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Ignore the people saying to be honest or confess or whatever. That has a 0% success rate. Zero. Don't ever do that. Girls in those situations need to feel a rush in a moment so they can feel like it just happened. Like they suddenly found themselves wanting you, then they got with you, then maybe they want a relationship later. That's how I converted friends into sex into dating a few times. Not by saying "Oh I feel all these ways emotionally and we should try dating" no. Girls can say that. As …
/r/seduction17/08/23 06:32 PM
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Lowkey dude you're kinda right but not entirely on this. Hmm. Lemme put it this way: I started cold approaching a bit before I really elevated myself, before I had game and looks and all. I was still trying, nervously. Inconsistently. Without recognizing IOIs. And I still got a few girls that way. Not many but a few. The kicker was that their.....ahhh I hate saying it this way but their quality of appeal was far lower. I was getting only the sluttiest girls, and from there, ones that weren't ver…
/r/seduction08/08/23 05:26 PM
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Probably yes, to some extent. I know in some cases they had somebody else they hit it off with or were seeing longer, and decided the other person was preferable for whatever reason. That shit happens even with nobody doing anything wrong, of course, but surely I could have done better. The issue is that I know well enough not to make any of the obvious mistakes. I can reflect and analyze and recognize that, yeah, I played my cards well, and showed the interest she showed first, never overbearin…
/r/seduction02/08/23 11:37 PM
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It's damn hard to tell though. Tbh I had a couple relationships start with girls who seemed awfully sure about me right away, wanting to see me often from the jump, wanting to be a part of things, and soon asking for commitment. Difference now is just that these girls suddenly don't want anything anymore. Sure as shit ain't me over pursuing to hell, not when they're texting first every day and then suddenly never again. Hoping to be able to better discern whether it's real and trustworthy in ter…
/r/seduction02/08/23 08:11 PM
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Truthfully most men's dating advice (and positive experiences I've had) lean toward this rule of "showing as much interest as you're getting from her" so not texting more than her or seeming more eager than her or much more affectionate than her, etc.....but man, it feels bizarre when a girl is just all over you and clicking like crazy right away and craving your touch and your attention only to basically bow out like it's nothing. I'm starting to think I'm better off not reciprocating much, if …
/r/seduction02/08/23 07:10 PM
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This is really important sort of mid-level advice right here. My experience recently has been primarily with women who attach hard right away and speak and act as if they want to be all about me continuously, and when I treat them in a similar regard, giving them the attention that entails and that they are giving me, they suddenly attach to somebody else instead. It's very odd, watching somebody go so quickly from seemingly head over heels to seemingly utterly disinterested, without any major c…
/r/seduction02/08/23 05:45 PM
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I think truthfully women don't want emotional men they want men who understand their emotions. Empathetic and affectionate, but still resilient. Self-aware but not emotionally driven or unstable. It's not very fair, but there are aspects of this that are deep rooted and hard wired, I'm certain. Call me conspiratorial if you wish, but gallivanting around and seeing how things go has taught me that girls will disappear when you seem to really deeply care about them more than they do for you. Even …
/r/seduction19/07/23 01:31 PM
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Absolutely! Something I avoided or refused to understand for a long time.
/r/seduction19/07/23 01:19 PM
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/r/seduction18/07/23 04:28 PM
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Exactly! I get hit on by guys plenty but the funny thing is, if you know how to flirt and really show intent with a girl, she will figure out very quickly that you are actually not gay. Had a few times where girls straight up ask but usually they can tell just from the eye contact that I'm not sizing them up the way a gay guy who likes having female friends would, I'm eyeing them like I want to undress them and they fucking love that.
/r/seduction17/07/23 10:06 PM
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To that effect a lot of the time it's true, so I'm used to the assumption. You might be surprised how many times a super cute emo girl, after making out with me outside a bar, is like "I saw you and thought you were gay, I was surprised hahaha". Because she was into that look, and didn't expect me to be into HER too. It's not that it isn't hot for a guy to look that way, it's that most guys who do that are gay and therefore not an option for the girls who would otherwise want them. Johnny Depp i…
/r/seduction17/07/23 06:26 PM
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Yeah this is the exact point I was making. It works for me. Because my target demo is emo girls who want guys who look like that. And I look good in it. Dropping it would be a net negative in every regard. Metrosexual is a slightly antequated term for a straight man who's fashionable and perhaps a little feminine. The whole point is that you don't have to be gay to take care of yourself and look good lmao
/r/seduction17/07/23 05:27 PM
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Oh I was seeing and sleeping with other girls over that time still, it's just, eh, I was excited about this one, found a good deal on tickets and thought "fuck it I'm sure we'll still be going out in 3, weeks and she loves this band I'll just buy two now"without telling her. Weirdly this has happened to me a couple of times lmao
/r/seduction17/07/23 03:56 PM
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I think there's a broad idea in Seddit that being even a little bit feminine is bad for a guy, but tbh I get a lot of attention dressing and behaving a little toward what was once called metrosexual and I'm mostly just concerned about finding the right person for me at this point. Flashy clothes, colorful stuff, shiny rings and necklaces, sometimes a little bit of guyliner or eyeshadow. All those punk rockers are a little feminine, you don't have to be a plain looking musclehead to get women exc…
/r/seduction17/07/23 03:21 PM
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This is a great point. I've come to understand that it's not just putting her on a pedestal though, it's letting her really affect you mentally and emotionally, especially early on. It's hard, though. You get excited about somebody new and then you just want more time and attention with them, you want to be together more, but if you can't just relax and sit tight she might lose interest, or have something else lined up that seems better to her. I gotta stop buying concert tickets for girls that …
/r/seduction17/07/23 03:18 PM
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Well, yes, but some of the women I regretted sleeping with most were ones who were VERY into me and my heart just.... wasn't in it. Told myself at the time it was just nerves or whatever but later recognized I was going through the motions without actually being attracted to her.
/r/seduction14/07/23 10:34 AM
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Honestly dude, take it from me, I slept around a lot and didn't mind it most of the time but had some really bad ONS/hookup experiences with either girls I wasn't that into, girls who were really unattractive, or girls who seemed generally awful/mean/crazy.....and I felt fine and wanted it in the moment but felt suuuuper gross afterward, especially the next day, but even weeks or months later I think back to some degree like "Why did I do that? That wasn't fulfilling for me. That wasn't really f…
/r/seduction13/07/23 06:36 PM
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