Secret_Sorbet_9674 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
13	What is the point of casual sex/short term?	Question for RedPill	Secret_Sorbet_9674	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:30 PM

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1	The new generation are more sexually degenerate, but the reason they are having less sex is due to the decline in marriage/committed relationships Whoa, so you mean a lot of beta relationshipfags get dull, biweekly duty sex so more coomies in total compared to single guys, but at the same time le 80:20 is kinda real and Chad is still hogging a disproportionate share of the pussy!!11 \ironic** Truly hard-hitting, groundbreaking stuff here. Never seen anything like this posted on PPD or indeed anywhere on the Internet before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 06:00 PM
2	What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men? I think you may be barking up the wrong tree here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 05:17 PM
–	There's glaring problem with the red pill concept of "the wall" This is an old pre-Tinder meme, maybe even a pre-1960s meme. The idea was that since le older women are not qt 3.14s, they would be undesirable marriage partners or whatever. It was probably always a bit exaggerated and a cope, but in the case of men having to give commitment in order to get a leg over, it probably was going to be at least a little bit harder for older women, yes (when it comes to the marriage game, men are at least somewhat more likely to insist on being just as Stacysexual as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/24 04:00 PM
8	What is the logic behind dating knowingly bad men? Not a woman, so I can't post a top-level comment, instead I'll post here. I disagree. Most men live very constrained lives. They are tyrannised: by the law, by public opinion, by other men, by women. This is more true than ever in our digital social media age. So a man who has the strength or character to live a life of defiance and seeks to make the rules himself rather than following them is attractive. It's attractive to men in a no homo way too, which is why such fictional characters are so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 10:30 PM
1	4B movement and Ni Una Menos Nuh uh, they wear blue sundresses in music videos and call men oppar in Korean TV dramas and variety shows as a sign of respect for patriarchy, it's a trad redpilled paradise, stop gatekeeping Kim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 03:10 PM
2	4B movement and Ni Una Menos No, I disagree because that's what immigration is for, a few Indian and Chinese megacities can easily top up the labour forces of mid-sized Western nations like Canada, Australia, and the UK. You vill be replaced, and you vill be happy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 03:08 PM
2	4B movement and Ni Una Menos >Tons of couples everywhere You're not entitled to your own facts, sweaty. “돈도 없고, 애인도 없어요” 한국·일본男 결혼 포기 선언 \| 서울신문 (seoul.co.kr) 20대 10명 중 4명이 연애 경험이 없다고 응답한 것에 대해 정부에서는 비혼, 만혼, 저출생 현상을 우려하고 있다.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 03:06 PM
1	4B movement and Ni Una Menos No, I'm not a bot. I'm sorry my answers don't meet with your understanding or approval; and if I missed some detail of your comment. I was merely attempting to explain the paradox we were discussing (the expectation on the part of TPB types that they will be perceived positively by non-Westerners, despite themselves having a negative view of their own Western society today). All the same, have a good one yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 10:10 AM
1	4B movement and Ni Una Menos I agree, it's a bit ironic. I think they may be hoping that 1) This reputation for sleaze sullies Western women more than the men (this may actually be true to be fair, but not entirely; and many people outside the West see the perceived behaviour of Western women today as the inevitable result of Western men failing to control them). 2) The more universally positive or at least impressive aspects of the West's reputation (power, money, achievement, historical high culture) still outweigh the ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 10:02 AM
4	4B movement and Ni Una Menos The scarlet letter had a literal and metaphorical meaning long before it was made the title of whatever book you refer to, which I have not read. It was, I believe, an apocryphal form of punishment, inflicted on adulterous women in the early history of New England. By scarlet letter here, I mean a stigma and reputation for immorality and vice. What is hard to understand about this? What I mean to say is that the reputation Westerners have for this is exaggerated by people in non-Western nations …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 09:32 AM
3	4B movement and Ni Una Menos The irony here, of course, is that these Western men are most likely to attract the very sort of non-Western women who admire the West. This is often put in an unkindly perjorative way by many non-Western men, who will call them sluts, traitors, loose, poor values, the usual; like most insults, there is sometimes a kernel of truth to it (some non-Western women really are attracted to Western men because they assume they're going to be more liberal and egalitarian, which the suspicious non-Wester…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/24 09:18 AM
2	4B movement and Ni Una Menos You might be taking "care" too literally here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 11:41 PM
–	You don’t have to be top-tier, just not bottom-tier. Yeah, but on the whole, most men today are less willing to do anything and give it all. There's this meme out there that modern men are all whipped effeminates or whatever, but if anything, men historically were much more likely to consciously and knowingly do whatever it took from women and authority to make sure their baby-batter went into the next generation. Whatever the reason (microplastics, sleep deprivation and lack of exercise, cynicism caused by dating apps and social media, MeToo) thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 11:39 PM
1	Why do majority of women say they want their man to be a confident leader, yet most women today are reluctant to be obedient/submissive? They want the man who is naturally dominant. Once you're telling him to or letting him be that way because you're actually wearing the trousers in the relationship, he isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 11:06 PM
–	You don’t have to be top-tier, just not bottom-tier. I mean, you're right that if you really do desperately want to reproduce, a man who isn't a literal hideous ogre will definitely be able find some woman willing to let him coom inside, tie himself down, and become the beta provider family man. To this extent, yes, the blackpillers who say itsover.png are being dishonest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 10:35 PM
5	4B movement and Ni Una Menos Those passportcels are delusional, they seem to think that being Western is some kind of a scarlet letter, and that the rest of the world is immune from what are really changes caused by technology by virtue of their spiritual values and connectedness that ypipo don't have or some woo-woo bullshit like that. It's a rather ironic variety of wokeness, since it's the kind that gives you a supposed reason to be a massive sexpat and go only for the dark meat. In a way though, even though it's stupid,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/24 10:20 PM
4	Location is Everything and not talked about enough What really makes high school especially public school a great place to date is the relative lack of responsibility. If you bang the wrong person or get caught up in drama of essentially any kind, the worst thing that's realistically going to happen is you get expelled, your parents are still legally responsible for you and you'll pay no direct consequences for your actions. As soon as you get into college, you have to worry about Title IX, in the job market, HR. You have to worry about your rec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/24 01:32 PM
1	If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of them ITT: Guys tell on themselves.* \(I do actually tend to believe that dating apps have made approaching women more difficult and unwelcome since basically all women have their fill of male attention now, but women definitely will still approach men they like and literally say/ask all kinds of dumb/"inappropriate" stuff because a) they want to and b) they know that unlike in the case of men trying it on with women, they're unlikely to get anything more than at worst a neutral response.)*	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 04:26 PM
84	If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of them Women already approach the men they're really attracted to, OP. If this experience is totally alien to you, or if you think that this is something crazy and only deranged sluts would ever, I have bad news for you regarding your level of attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 04:08 PM
–	What do you think of a stepped age of consent law? old and haggard and not wealthy Why are age-gap relationships any better if the man has money? I've never quite been able to understand the idea that it's actually less gross if the man is basically paying for it and it's totally transactional. Is the idea that the woman is being less taken advantage of if she's getting paid? Personally, I find the idea of financially compensating a woman and "providing" her with anything other than my presence unpleasant. Call me narcissistic like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/24 03:40 AM
3	Do you think immigrant and religious communities could provide lower status western beta males an alternative dating pool? Perhaps I didn't choose my words quite right. My point is that from a feminist perspective, the restoration of a patriarchy in the West from within is not necessarily more desirable than one being imposed from without. Arguably worse, because it would give the ideological enemies within the West the satisfaction of feeling like they'd beaten them after over a century of feminist victory. If (and this is all rather silly and dramatic), if the West is to be gradually chipped away demographically f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 03:54 PM
2	Do you think immigrant and religious communities could provide lower status western beta males an alternative dating pool? The obvious rejoinder to this argument, is that if the West hypothetically had to become a patriarchy again to fight a demographic war with Muslims, it would be a pyrrhic victory, from a feminist perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 03:36 PM
13	Do you think immigrant and religious communities could provide lower status western beta males an alternative dating pool? Truly separatist communities with wildly diverging values are closed, and unfriendly to outgroup men gunning for their women, though. For logical reasons. If they weren't, they'd just be a mainstream part of society. And as you hinted at, the more "based" and "trad" they are, the more likely they are to firmly expect any outside man they let into their community to submit to them ideologically and culturally. This goes both for passport bros and Western men dating women from immigrant communitie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 02:05 PM
3	If hypergamy is real, you should be guaranteed sex if you find lower status women. I think it is true, OP. But we then get into the thorny problem of what actually IS a woman with lower status than yourself? The usual method of figuring this is the on-paper, traditional way: I'm handsome and earn six figures in finance, she's a plain waitress at Starbucks. I'm a successful tech nerd in SF, she's a barefoot Asian immigrant. But while simple, this quick and dirty way of calculating things doesn't take into account the way society works now. If your partner can potentially make f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 01:41 PM
2	The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussion OP, I think women may genuinely not realise how less sexual they are than men. They probably think a lot about how very strongly attracted they are to Chad, and so don't reflect very much if at all on how completely indifferent they are to all the rest of mankind and that this is a product of their lower sex drive. The fact that young men have a much stronger compulsion to do the deed with a much wider spectrum of the opposite sex than themselves is just something totally foreign and outside the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 10:55 AM
12	If evolutionary psychology/hypergamy was true, shouldn't it be men who beautify themselves instead of women? It... is? Men are far more likely (in the current, more competitive environment actually shaped by womens' preferences) to actually go to the gym and diet, for example, than women are. The historic focus on getting respect from other men and stacking green pieces of paper and shrugging at your appearance as effeminate frivolity is a legacy of the old betacuck provider meme, where you needed permission from society to get with women and the key to that was being respectful and doing your bit, whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 02:13 AM
–	✨️🧚🏻‍♀️Why are lads personally offended over what a lady does with her body?🧚🏻‍♀️✨️ (Some) men foolishly thought that a more liberal social climate around sexuality would mean more sexy times for themselves, when really sexual liberalism actually meant that women would have the freedom to be more selective than ever, something that's gone into overdrive in recent decades thanks to dating apps. Also, part of the resentment that exists towards female sexuality is likely over the manipulations of women and the perception that women use sex as a weapon against men, something that w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 02:06 AM
5	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? So much of what people ask about on this sub boil down to How do I feel Y instead of X, despite having perfectly logical and rational reasons for feeling X? The answer is, you don't, at least not without great difficulty: you basically will have to wilfully delude yourself, the way fundies or other ideologues do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 03:43 AM
–	What is the point of casual sex/short term? No argument found. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 03:21 AM
1	I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted to Like why can’t a woman just see a tall nice physique toned body but average in the face guy big dick but doesn’t know how to talk to women gets scared when talking to women makes conversations and interactions in general awkward and boring and other “bad flaws” but fucks good like why can’t she just fuck that guy? She... (often) does? It's been a wry cliche for a long time that if a man is good looking, any other perceived deficits can and usually will be overlooked. In particular, very good-loo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 01:18 AM
1	Dear women, choose the wealthier one. there is a reason married men live longer. Men who are in healthy relationships, will take less risks, can possibly have children, they will have healthier lifestyles, they will have companionship, they will be wealthier and more motivated, they will have a sex life, and they will ultimately have better mental health than single men I don't know how strong this argument is. I'm sure (for example) that owning houses in Chelsea is probably statistically correlated with some or even all of the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 04:48 PM
–	In the west, if you haven’t had one girlfriend or boyfriend by 25, something is probably severely wrong with you Obviously, it's biologically normal for human beings to start humping each other when they reach puberty or at least try (although of course there are no guarantees, and there have always been a proportion especially of males who never get any), but we live in a highly artificial environment. You thinking something is normal and therefore is what should happen doesn't mean it is, or will be, what happens. This is sort of like that other thread where some guy was saying that because women don't w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 04:31 PM
–	In the west, if you haven’t had one girlfriend or boyfriend by 25, something is probably severely wrong with you In most western societies, dating begins at 15-16 with things like homecoming or pizza dates. Increasingly, this is no-longer the case. A very large and increasing proportion of high school-aged Americans of both sexes have never dated, and I'm fairly sure this is representative of the West as a whole. The reasons for this are up for debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 04:19 PM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling As if cars, and telephones didn't exist There was a time when they didn't, of course. Every improvement in communication and travel (the postal service, the railway, the steamship, the telephone and automobile, and now the Internet) has ramped up the competition, since each enabled women to more easily flock to cities or wealthy places to meet more successful and attractive men, and of course for men to communicate and meet with women. The broadening (and to some, alarming) possibilities of new …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:39 PM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Nah man, I work in a FOX News studio, and the young women around me are mostly tall, leggy blondes dressed in that simultaneously conservative yet slighly slutty fashion that appeals to boomers, so to me, that is what the actual average woman is like. It just seems right to me, so this is going to be my colloquial, real-world definition of the term. You can show me pictures of young zoomer women who fat, short, who wear hoodies and sweatpants, who have dark hair or are even Mexican or Asian or s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:26 PM
–	Anxiety and insecurity in men are the biggest attraction killers Many men are increasingly anxious and insecure because they have rational reasons to be. In the modern social media panopticon, the number of ways someone can choose to ruin your life if they want to are truly countless, and especially (but definitely not only) in long-term relationships and marriage, this is even more the case and means putting yourself entirely in the power of an individual and system that may be waiting for the opportunity to do so. The best way not to be anxious about any of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 01:38 PM
3	Switching around "Commitment" for "Sex" may allow more empathy between the sexes? Women know that despite modern sex-positive noises, being perceived to be less promiscuous will get them better treatment from men and society (and the best way to seem so is to conceal one's sexuality). Some (dull) men take this at face value, both because they want to believe and also because they want to use the "good" women as a stick to beat the "bad" women with. There's also the inevitable sense that to acknowledge bad behaviour is to normalise and risk spreading it. But taking this social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 12:51 PM
4	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Literally no pussy is worth working 72 hours a week for. That's ridiculous (and illegal here probably). Is this some sort of American hustle culture thing? If there are other Yanks around, is this attitude normal over there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:49 PM
2	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Pretty sure it's Mr. Classism to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:47 PM
5	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling I owned two homes on a nurses salary by 28 I'd like to see you start trying to do that on an NHS salary in 2024. What made sense for you, doesn't make sense for everyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:35 PM
3	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling If you are living at home in your 30s THERE IS A PROBLEM! Why? Besides the idea that women are more likely to fuck you if you move out (although I think this might be overstated anyway and be subject to the 1. Be attractive. 2. Don't be unattractive rule just like anything else men do; Chad bangs girls in his car), everything else being equal, renting or getting a mortgage is a large financial burden and reduces your ability to save: it just doesn't make sense unless you already have plans to ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:03 PM
6	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Not me, I said that over 1/3 of young adults live at home, which is true, and this fraction is increasing over time. The average person doesn't live at home, as older demographics are less likely to; I believe it's more like 1/10. We will have to see whether there will be a crash that brings prices down and makes houses more affordable, whether these young people will end up somehow being able to buy in their 30s or just wait to inherit, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:46 PM
1	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling OP's original post does suggest the literal meaning of average. If this isn't what he means, then we can still be judged against his criteria, but it doesn't have (as much) to do with what is actually average, only what is good / shows competence / is attractive (enough) to women. Yes, quite right, I do think I am missing your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:40 PM
1	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Alright, but that's different from OP's post, which states: "Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling." ... which suggests the literal definition of "average." Now, there may be some cases where many men on this sub are literally below average. If you don't rent or own your own property, you are statistically below average according to this measure (leaving aside for a moment the fact that not paying rent may actually be a wise financial decision). If you are 5…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:36 PM
1	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling What every normie person experiences as the norme average in their day to day life is different from what is actually average. If there are plenty of other people who "the average normie" doesn't interact with who influence what and who the actual average person is, then it doesn't make any sense to call this imaginary person "average." They ought instead be referred to correctly as "my peers" or something, which is different. If the "normie average joe" archetype isn't necessarily average, then…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:27 PM
3	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Not unless they don't understand the actual definition of words. I can pine after barely legal 10 stone perfect BMI buxom schoolgirls headed for Oxbridge with 10/10 faces and proclaim I will never settle for anything else while perfectly recognising that this is not the average woman, let alone the average woman a man in my demographic is likely to establish a relationship with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:23 PM
2	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Ironically, in his other comments elsewhere just a few hours ago, OP came out as blackpilled. So I don't know why he even worries about houses and jobs and numbers of friends if he's part of the bones-in-my-face-determine-my-fate crowd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:20 PM
1	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling What you think every normie person experiences or what the standard archetype is are only tangentially related to what is literally average. I accept that OP is factually correct about a few of his claims (for example, it is true that most adults don't live at home, and obviously most people have at least one or two friends although that falls somewhat short of a true "circle" and I'm not sure about the foreign holidays), but words still have meanings. "Average" doesn't and will never mean "what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 01:18 PM
6	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling But I think they are below average. Otherwise they would they struggle? You have this idea that for someone to struggle, they have to be below-average by definition. At the risk of argumentum ad absurdum, 80% of Gazans are unemployed and homeless, and struggling. They are nevertheless "average", by definition. Words have meanings. You seem to be using the word "average" to mean "competent" or "normal” in some sense, which is not the same thing. For a more relevant and less silly example perhaps,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 12:20 PM
16	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Sure, you can still talk to women in bars and on the street, there's no law against it, but it's not just a case of your preference and choice, because the existence of online dating changes the culture as a whole. You can choose not to use online dating, but they're still going to have an impact on flesh and blood people IRL around you. Just like how you can refrain from browsing political Facebook groups and 4chan, but Qboomers will still exist and be roaming around in the wild. Or for a diffe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 12:15 PM
5	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Whether women are more likely to bang guys not living at home is irrelevant to the question of what's “average" and what isn't. I mean, yes, for now the majority of young adults and older adults don't live at home, although in a few decades, it will likely be more like 50:50. The statistic could flip to 90% of adults living with their parents and the vast majority of women could refuse to sleep with any of these dudes, but living at home would nevertheless have become the new "average" regardles…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:47 AM
8	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Not really. OP never provided any justification for his idea of average besides his coworkers or people he knows, which is flawed reasoning for obvious reasons. If he changed his statement to My coworkers seem to have kinda active and fun lives while I'm a bit boring by comparison it would be more accurate. He has no real reasoning behind his observations as a reflection of society as a whole. Making fun of the sub is an easy line, but kind of played out at this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:43 AM
9	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling OP, you said that "I don't think you will find statistical data on what it means to be an average man". There is statistical data for height, weight, property ownership and basically most of the items on your list. To take one example: you say that the average guy goes to the gym but not seriously and may have "a dadbod." Well: The Health Survey for England 2021 estimates that 25.9% of adults in England are obese and a further 37.9% are overweight but not obese. Obesity is usually defined as h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:36 AM
4	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling It may abnormal and not good for you to be friendless, but it is rapidly becoming more common. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:25 AM
9	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling 1/3 of 25 to 29 year olds live at home, and because property prices aren't coming down, it's hardly certain they will all become renters or property owners as they get older. You may be right that it makes it harder for them to get laid or whatever, but that's irrelevant to the fact that while most adults don't live at home, a very large minority do and one that is growing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:17 AM
12	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Work is a great example. The people I work with are absolutely average looking men. Fat, short, average looking etc. But ask them about their weekends? They didn't just sit around on the internet or playing video games. What's your job? (Or if that's too personal, what is your class?) The unemployed and lower classes are obviously more likely not to enjoy the same hobbies as better-off people. Even looking at what people on the street (rather than what people at your workplace) are doing isn't f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:14 AM
–	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling OP hasn't justified at all why he thinks this list describes the average man. To me this is the average man... I mean, I know this is PPD and half the posts on here are just spitballing anyway, so maybe it's unfair to single him out. But all the same, I bet OP doesn't even really know why he thinks the guy he described reflects the average man, besides that he personally knows some guys it describes, there are guys on TV who seem kind of like that, and it feels right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 11:09 AM
56	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling Yeah, this idea that the average slob these days is going to massively up their chances of meeting women because he was endorsed by some guy in his social circle is laughably outdated. Social media and dating apps just by their very existence have made meeting women IRL much, much more competitive for the vast majority of men, who are being constantly compared with Tinder Chad and usually unfavourably. Ditto for the good job/career stuff, women make their own money now so they don't need to go f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 10:55 AM
21	Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are struggling What seems reasonable and healthy or what you think would be better for men to be has nothing to do with what's average. I'd like for the vast majority of women to weight 10 stone or less, but it's definitely not remotely average in this day and age. Unless you have stats to go with your wishlist, that's all it is and not a benchmark of anything. In particular, your rental property/mortgage stuff is a dead letter now: a very large proportion of young people in North America, Australia, the UK an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 10:45 AM
–	Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future? Probably. But what of it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 02:45 AM
1	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? If you read my comment carefully, I wasn't saying otherwise. The fact that one's chances all things being equal may be better IRL than online doesn't change the fact that the existence of dating apps by itself makes a lot of if not most women fussier and more demanding, even if/when they're not using them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 05:28 PM
59	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? So many people on here are acting like all dating apps do is make actually meeting or approaching women more challenging or stressful or whatever. Guys hate admitting it, but no: they also heighten mens' insecurities once in a relationship by making normal/mediocre men much more easily disposable. This is the big elephant in the room here: back when society was more of a thing and people just dated in each others' social circles, people (and here I'll be honest and admit I mostly mean women, but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 05:05 PM
7	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? While this is not bad advice, let's be realistic here: even if most women aren't using them at any time, just the fact that dating apps do exist and that women know they exist and there are a lot of hot guys there does make them less open to being chatted up by a random chud than they might have been decades ago (even if even back then they wouldn't have necessarily been exactly thrilled, either).	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 04:58 PM
0	How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women? Who says you are "supposed to"? What do you even mean by "supposed to"?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 04:54 PM
5	Population collapse and dating I do wonder how some posters here would feel if hypothetically, far-right governments do in fact come to power eventually, and pull off an emergency, larger-scale Lebensborn again to save and improve the race, i.e. encouraging teenage girls to get bred en masse (only by Chad of course, within or without marriage) and naturally heavily taxing Chuds to support them and their excellent children. The West is saved!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 04:26 PM
2	Population collapse and dating Yeah there are 2 billion people in India and China alone. Sure they're aging as well, but there are definitely enough young workers there for the bosses to fill in any "shortages" of labour, lol. Each one of their megacities is basically the population of Canada or Australia. This is what the riding the tiger, the West has fallen crowd don't seem to appreciate: You really are replaceable. There is no crisis or reset coming that you can count on. The moment they imagine leaders are going to say, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 03:32 PM
1	Could atheism by the reason behind the alienation of men and women? Technology. People blame atheism, capitalism, and feminism: but in reality, technological development is taking a wrecking-ball to community and society. Just consider life as it was in the late 1700s. Want to listen to any music more complicated than you can play yourself? You need friends to jam with, or at least to go and watch someone else play. Want to hear news? You need to hear it by word of mouth, from a neighbour friend or relative. If you're in a specialised field of work or trade, you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 02:54 PM
1	What is the point of casual sex/short term? us guys I myself am a man. If we like spending time with someone, we want to spend more time with them. This is how a relationship develops. Yes, but the topic of this thread is about men who seek to have short-term sexual relationships; essentially as much of the sex and as little of the relationship as they can get away with. I don't know where you're getting all this "dominant social position" and all that. I'm getting it from the words of manosphere types all over the Internet complaining ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 06:13 PM
4	What is the point of casual sex/short term? Sexual variety. One of the main male imperatives. Why, what happens if you don't get it? Something that's not actually necessary isn't actually imperative, by definition. And it's not like you have to do it forever. No; but let's face it, the TRP zeitgeist is defeatist when it comes to relationships and society and mostly these dudes think it's a bad idea. All the good arguments against getting into them when you're young apply just as much or even more to older men really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 05:09 PM
2	What is the point of casual sex/short term? Maybe you genuinely feel that way, but tbh I wonder how many guys who say this kind of thing are actually being honest. What a lot of guys likely want deep down is to be able to have it all: to have social status in a relationship, but also to be in a dominant social position where they feel in charge. This whole playboy, I can't be tied down thing is something that isn't entirely a free choice. I mean, a lot of these complainy guys literally say as much, and sometimes these complaints are basic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 04:56 PM
2	How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants? Have you tried being attractive and not being unattractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/24 06:42 AM
19	Society is finished, terminal stage <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/24 09:15 PM
0	I genuinely think people underestimate female toxicity It's funny how the unborn child belongs to a man (in the sense that he has the responsibility to "do the right thing" and agree to protect and raise it) but definitely doesn't belong to him, in the sense that if she wants an abortion and he doesn't, the little guy is 100% going to get surgically whacked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 08:02 AM
3	(Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere? I've read that post before. Unfortunately, there's a fair amount of truth in the part where he says (paraphrasing): "Henry beats his wives, beats his girlfriends, constantly cheats on them, has served many jail sentences for it, and as soon as he serves the sentence for his latest round of domestic violence, he'll find another girlfriend almost immediately." I've seen that play out numerous times. My Dad worked in law enforcement and saw far more. A few of those women ended up dead. This doesn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:26 PM
6	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? I think that the general idea used to be more about hacking social interactions, which was problematic only when it came to stuff like "negging" or getting through "last minute resistance". This was a legacy of the dating culture and dynamics that existed decades ago, before dating apps. This was a weird transitional period, when most guys were putting off marriage and realised the bloop life script was over, but before the 21st century more authoritarian feminist rules were fully in place and m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:08 PM
1	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? The obvious rejoinder from many chuddies might be an unkind reminder that feminists have been making mens' lives miserable for a century at this point, now yes it may be your turn to suffer once again. To be fair, all except the very most lucky of us will inevitably be doled out at least our fair share of suffering: that's one thing we can count on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:56 PM
3	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? That's the desert warlord version of "trad" I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:52 PM
2	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? What's happened OP is that people are losing faith in the idea of rising above it all as an individual. This was the promise of TRP: that yeah, sure most people are idiots, but if you understand how things really work, you can still end up on top. In reality, dating apps and what technology generally has done to society has made the competition so fierce and the rules so both rigid and dizzyingly hard to keep up with that both self-improvement and trying to stay savvy and socially aware started …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:49 PM
4	Have tradcons taken over the redpill? More like both tradcons and PUAs are dying, and being replaced by either true MGTOW/nihilism/blackpill on one hand or political extremism on the other. Tradcon is dying because it's too obvious now that unless you are part of a tight-knit community of likeminded people, you are at the mercy of a hostile if not vindictive culture and society if things go wrong: it's a LARP, and so young guys are less likely to buy into it. PUA is dying because MeToo and the social media fishbowl means playing wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:32 PM
2	Society seems to assign womanhood virtue. The worst woman-hater's paradise is a world where women are present and slaves and being abused and raped. The worst man-hater's paradise is one where there aren't men. They aren't suffering. They aren't in pain. They just aren't there. It paints an interesting picture about the mentality what it actually means to hate men or to hate women. This actually just reflects male sexual slavishness more than anything. Even men who have come to the conclusion that they don't like women still want to fuc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:55 AM
16	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? I think women (and tbh guys too) may worry that guys who never express weakness or instability are probably actually hiding some major problems deep inside that will only come out when he hits the bottle, loses his job or worse becomes a mass shooter or something. A guy who is nice and stable-ish most of the time, but occasionally acts up or breaks down a little (ideally not being actually abusive, but maybe shouty, throwing things, crying when drunk) seems like more of a known quantity. Women a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 02:02 PM
-1	Why are so many girls wanting to have traditional marriages again? In this day and age, husbands are under the watchful gaze of NGOs and state agencies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 03:55 AM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" Increasingly they won't, though. A lot of older men don't have much lead left in their proverbial pencil anymore anyway obviously, so it's a lot of easier for them than it used to be to just give up and settle for the single life (even if in their case, single mostly really does mean single, unlike in the case of older women).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 03:18 AM
1	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I don't know how more "alpha" it really is to be a typical sexually liberated man today. Unless you date exclusively barely legal girls, you're going to be meeting women who've had more sausage pass them by than a countertop at Greggs, mountains of baggage, and let's face it the average woman now is a lot fatter than historically so even most men who are getting some are being pushed into a BBW fetish. By the standards of basically any other time, you're a laughing-stock of a man, even granting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 03:13 AM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" More importantly though no-one is burning anything down. Preening in front of a mirror, reading about how to pretend to be a sociopath online and going on a sleazy date with a jaded 30-something year old fat girl on Tinder isn't an act of rebellion against society, especially since it seems the people running it are happy enough to replace you with an entire village of Indians when you shuffle off this mortal coil childless, or indeed even decades before that happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 03:03 AM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" Not anymore it isn't, at least not in the developed world. Although now that I think about it, for bloops this is actually a pretty good rejoinder to the muh conscription meme. Childbirth could be dangerous for women if everything breaks down one day the way it has in Afghanistan, just like how being conscripted into NATO forces and being forced to be a soldier could be dangerous for men, if TPTP lose it and decide to throw everyone into a meatgrinder against the Russians for some reason	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 02:59 AM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" The liberal world system must come down <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 08:14 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" they discovered that American and European men are easily fooled into supporting them by simply kowtowing and smiling shyly To be fair, this is basically what le trad marriage is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 07:53 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" You took a kernel of truth and went too far with it. Yes, it is true that most men in developing countries live harder lives, and therefore are not as soft as Westerners and have a more realistic worldview less distorted by ideology and wishful thinking. But this doesn't make them less of "beta bucks" (in fact, because of the relative absence of social welfare systems and the lack of jobs being given to women, they are on the whole much more likely to directly shack up with provider men for mone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 07:38 PM
–	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I reject awalt, but absolutely recognize women basically have all the legal power and privileges over men nowadays. That's essentially what AWALT means, though. All women could be like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 06:42 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" It’s not defeatist to adapt to feminism. I'd call it... defeated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 05:01 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I disagree that most TRP men are actually "high value" though. Really high value men just have a lot of power... and that's the end, they are confident and fearless because they have little or nothing to fear. They don't need a journey of self-improvement or whatever, there is no Step 2. Imagine you wake up an obese Saudi royal, or member of North Korea's Kim family. You'd feel much more confident around women ... rationally. Just because you have lots of power. That's it. Everything that makes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 04:51 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" Are men who feel like they have such little social power that they can't wear the trousers in relationships with women anymore for both social and legal reasons and have to trick women into letting them basically masturbate into their bodies using a condom for fear of automatically being trapped into an unfavourable relationship really entitled to be called "alpha men"? It's a reasonable question, I think. Wouldn't really alpha men by definition be in the leadership position, with helpful, submi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 04:43 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" The problem with tradcons is that their values only work when they're in charge. This is okay for Orthodox Jews, Muslims, and the Amish or whatever. But the rest of them are basically LARPing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 04:27 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" How does a man actually profit from spending time and effort into learning how to trick women into fleeting and sterile sex? What's the purpose of it, besides hedonism? If that's the point, why not just mainline some opiates and cut out the proverbial middle-woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 04:23 PM
1	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I'm not suggesting they do anything. I'm just saying, TRP in practice is mostly pretty passive. Perhaps this is an autistic question, but what is actually supposed to be the point of figuring out how to trick women into letting you coom into a condom inside them? What is the purpose of doing so, especially if you have the intention to never get into an LTR or marriage? some redpilled guys are looking to start a family btw, but it's not going to be with the average western chick who's had a hoe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 04:14 PM
–	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" look for the quality women TRP rejects this because of AWALT and how society and the legal system work: the argument is that it's unreasonable to "vet" someone for something like this, simply because the risks are too high and you're putting too much power in the hands of a stranger in any case, also people change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 03:59 PM
5	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I think you're getting too hung up on the aesthetics here. My point isn't that women are particularly attracted to gymbound meatheads (I actually think that the gym is mostly C O P E). And actually, I agree with you that women don't necessarily want a man who particularly goes out of his way to put other men down. But I still do think that women hate men who are dominated and submissive towards either women or other men. I've seen some pretty brutal accounts of women completely turning on their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 03:54 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" TRP is basically doing nothing, especially if you follow things to their obvious conclusions. TRP guys who don't to get babytrapped and are "spinning plates" will use condoms, which means no babies. TRP guys who "understand what women are like" will avoid LTRs, which means having less or no real influence on that woman's life besides being cock number 4325436433, and probably pretty forgettable. Casual sex is by definition mostly sterile and pointless. In the old days, the argument was that men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 03:43 PM
1	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" The argument for TRP being blackpill is that they've essentially given up on even trying to change, influence, and even dominate their environment, society, and women (whitepill) and settled for being being passive and manipulative to essentially be a sort of social scavenger. If you give up on the idea of relationships, family, and community, you're basically giving up on being a part of society. That's seems pretty blackpilled however you shake it: even if it's arguably rational.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 03:30 PM
5	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I disagree, women do want men who are strong and dominant. The problem is that in the modern world, going to the gym and lifting heavy things, or being moderately charismatic and successful isn't enough to make a man anything like his own master, let alone a leader of men. The fundamental problem here isn't just muh dating apps, or men having low test levels or not going to the gym enough or playing too many video games, or women being bitches or having too high standards and Chadsexual or being…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 03:23 PM
–	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" A lot of them are getting their fantasy from the Gen Xers and boomers, though, like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson, there's an ideological continuity here, going back through the 1980s, 1960s, 1950s and all the way back to the 19th century. Younger bloops (and a lot of them are Christians, although there are a lot of IQ fetishist fedora types and Asian dudes who also get wrapped up in this) figure if those guys can make it work, why can't I? Unfortunately for them, things actually have and are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 02:56 PM
1	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" As far as I understand, TRP basically boils down to performative, essentially theatrical masculinity. The reason why it's so popular is because increasing numbers of men feel emasculated, and unfortunately, for concrete, rational reasons. Because actually having social power and dominance is close to a non-starter for so many, the answer then becomes tricks to fool women into thinking you are more secure in yourself and feel powerful than you are, at least long enough to get cock in pussy. This …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 02:44 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" I'm fairly sure you're technically correct, but in practice most redpill spaces ended up a more buzzwordy and evo-psych version of the old PUA stuff warmed over: with a strong subtext that its main application was in how to get away with being a player. There was also Married Red Pill for guys who'd swallowed the redpill too late. In theory, I suppose the redpill could be said to have applications even for men who were essentially blackpilled socially and wanted out of the dating game (dealing w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 02:21 PM
–	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" They want their nice perfect white suburbia that barely existed and was so unsustainable it lasted about 10 years before imploding. This is too reductive. Yeah I'm familiar with the memes (pic rel), but come on tradcuck-ish values go back considerably longer than that and to an extent have persisted somewhat longer too (they're still hanging around the place even today). Even granting that VGHing and nostalgia have always been a thing, mores have legitimately changed so much (for both technologi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 02:13 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" To be honest, though, I think classic TRP is breaking down simply because it's becoming too obvious that women really do hate being used for sex by sociopaths who are afraid of relationships (even if their reasons for being so are totally understandable from their POV), and will punish men for pulling that shit even decades later even when they're handsome, charming, wealthy and have a sixpack (that's basically what MeToo and even guys who shouldn't need to be-more-alpha according to TRP dogma l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 01:49 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" More self-aware redpillers might bluntly tell you that fighting a hopeless cause is for Southerners in history books and in Hollywood movies, not real life, and that they aren't really trying to be romantic and masculine and are deliberately and cynically just putting on an act to get pussy and otherwise calculatingly get what they can out of society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 01:33 PM
3	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" Is the defeatism actually not totally justified or at least justifiable, though? I think a lot of things in this debate end up being seen through a lens of essentially aesthetic preferences: where being negative is "bad" because it"feels" bad. Both blackpills and redpills seem inferior to blue (I'm fighting for love! It's never that bad! Consider our ancestors who fought the bears and dinosaurs with their bare hands, would they whine about feminists oppressing them, huh?") and white because the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 01:26 PM
2	CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills" TRP is ultimately very much a modern, liberal way of thinking. It has that whole 70s California imagine and realise your success guru thing going on, but with a side of boomery bootstraps, individual grit matters. In terms of trying to overturn modern feminist social and political norms either constitutionally or extra-constitutionally if that's not possible, yes, I think you're right, they're totally blackpilled. Most even consider the idea completely ridiculous and impossible, or don't even th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 01:18 PM
0	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? In some cases, it may really be because the man was never attracted to her in the first place, as bitter a pill as that can be to swallow. But I doubt it's true anything like all the time. The real problem with marriage is that it does exactly what it says on the tin - the whole point of the institution, really (at least in our society) is to saddle the man with responsibility, ensuring he doesn't let his wife or children become a burden on the public purse, at least not too quickly. That's what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:27 AM
29	“Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].” I agree the TikTok shaming bullshit is too much, but honestly it is weird to hassle strange women on the street or in a shop or whatever. Not to state the obvious, but they don't know you. >Historically speaking, the normal thing was to be introduced to a woman by a friend or acquaintance, ditto for friends. Obviously, there have always been some situations where men would approach random women but tbh it's always been considered a little predatory and a lot of women never liked it. Although I c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 10:23 PM
1	Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized? Alright then, I won't say it. j/k But to be quite honest, I don't think approaching strange women has ever been fully kosher, most men throughout history have always been more successful being introduced to women directly, or at least meeting them during social gatherings and events than through cold approach. The real problem for the vast majority of dudes generally is just that women are jaded from being offered dick every five seconds now that the Internet is a thing. That's it. Obviously wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 04:39 PM
1	Men and women are not equal and will never be equal The fact that most men are willing to be capable, responsible for others, and sacrifice so much for them without any reward "for the common good" doesn't make them better, it makes them slavish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/24 10:57 AM
–	Men don't really want male issues to be solved , they want power Having power solves your issues as an individual, if you get high enough on the totem pole. You have to get very high up now though to truly stop feeling insecure, though, due to the social media panopticon, MeToo, etc. as well as what the law and social norms are like now. The boomer-y world where being a middle manager, store owner or whatever made you the lord of your own little fief is long gone, you have to be a meme 1% billionaire or something (or at the very least, in the top 10%) to have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 12:37 PM
1	Is personality more important to men or women? So these women around 30 may experience a sudden shortage in their dating options not because of their looks are gone. ONLY, but also because the men on her age bracket sudenly drop their hormonal levels and they are not crazy horny anymore. I definitely agree with this. Older women see older men saying that they're less attracted to them as either cope, maliciousness, or will accuse older men of having health problems (I mean to be fair, in some cases they do; and because older men are all over…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 02:58 PM
1	If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support? This is one of those unfortunate and uncomfortable topics where what you're saying makes sense intellectually, but in practice this just isn't how it works. Society will never be willing to essentially compel women to have an abortion because of a man not wanting to "do his duty" and "be responsible," despite how accepted abortion is today. Also, men instinctively are revolted by the idea of being forced to pay for other mens' children, so anything that even seems to increase the risk of that ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 10:32 AM
4	Do most women really dislike being approached in general? They (mostly) do these days, because of the double-whammy of more and more people living in packed cities and women being basically asked Want some dick? every five minutes especially now that the Internet is a thing. Imagine for a moment what life was like before the Internet, before mass transport, before even electronic communication existed, before movies and television. Men and the attentions of men would be simply much less present in the day-to-day lives of women. Greetings, compliments, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 10:28 AM
1	Is personality more important to men or women? In fact, I don't think this "Wall" women suffer after 30 has to do with women's decreasing looks more than with male decreasing testosterone levels. This is interesting, and it would explain the massive disconnect between many older men (who are absolutely convinced, and seem to genuinely believe, that the majority of older women are surely not considered worth dealing with romantically or sexually by anyone) and older women, who seem to genuinely believe that their personal experience is differ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 07:02 AM
2	Is personality more important to men or women? This is a false equivalence. Even young women who make "bad" choices are still quite fussy. Chadsexual hot young chicks refuse 80%+ of men. I think (some) women like this comparison, because it suggests an equivalence between their uncontrollable passion for dominant, aggressive, dangerous men and what is in fact young mens' willingness to stoop to dating crazy women if they can get a leg over (women are hoping to reduce beta males' anger at being judged effeminate and weak by redefining what th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 10:28 PM
3	Is personality more important to men or women? Everything is more important to women compared to the desperation of young men, who will stick their cocks in anyone and anything, any port in a storm. This is the crude but accurate truth of the situation. There's not really any divergence of values here, besides women of any age generally having more dignity and being more willing to have standards. The great irony is that the same young men who spent their youths seething about how awful womens' personalities are and how much easier they have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 09:39 PM