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| 2 | Harvard Feminist Class of 2014: the liberal obsession with “academic freedom” is misplaced. I propose a more rigorous standard: one of “academic justice.” When research promotes or justifies oppression, we stop this researchAnd in that 100 years they have been used less and less to the point where their is very little practical applications for them today. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/14 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Let's just go ahead and ban all sports in that case because there are just as many trash talkers in there than anywhere else. Why? There are many sports which no matter how competative promote sportsmanship. I get that people can get frustrated and snap a bit and say something they otherwise wouldn't. It is understandable and I am not going to be calling any sponsers over it unless it is way out of line like racism, sexism etc.. When you try your best and it just is not good enough we all can re… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/14 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Your advice is leave and don't try to make things better? We could work together to make gaming a more friendly and open environment to all, no just just leave because I would rather accept people actively making gaming a hostile place than trying to improve it. My mind is indeed blown. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/14 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Yes but you only know who to mute after someone does something. There is no need to defend people being assholes. First it's it's the same in every competative hobby. Then it's you should wear the insults with pride, then it's oh you can just mute them. Why is it never, they shouldn't be doing that. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/14 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Harvard Feminist Class of 2014: the liberal obsession with “academic freedom” is misplaced. I propose a more rigorous standard: one of “academic justice.” When research promotes or justifies oppression, we stop this researchNo one is saying science and measuring things is bullshit, but you have to use the right methodology to get accurate results. But the methodolgy of IQ test is bullshit. What they are trying to measure bares no relation to the results they give. Trying to reduce intelligence down to one solitary number is bullshit and does not give any sort of accurrate representation of someones intelligence. I have no clue how to measure intelligence because it is such a broad termand influenced by so many fact… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/14 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Speaking on voice chat is bragging? | /r/MensRights | 20/02/14 09:59 AM |
| 2 | Harvard Feminist Class of 2014: the liberal obsession with “academic freedom” is misplaced. I propose a more rigorous standard: one of “academic justice.” When research promotes or justifies oppression, we stop this researchBecause IQ tests are basically bullshit? | /r/MensRights | 20/02/14 08:16 AM |
| -1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)If esports cannot handle people being treated fairly and with respect then it should die. It is not about not being able to handle it. Its why should anyone have to handle it? Not just woman why should anyone be subject to insults while trying to enjoy the couple hours free time they get. Handling it is irrelevant, no one should have to handle that bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 08:29 PM |
| -1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be better than it currently is. Not such an unobtainable goal. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 06:54 PM |
| -1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)I see this as the same as when people hurl insults at other things that they think I like or cherish. Angry that someone insulted something you casre about. A valid reaction, but different from you yourself being insulted. I'm afraid that this is where we're going to disagree again. It helps the recipient develop a thick skin and be able to take further challenges. In this regard, I see it as being helpful. So people being assholes to you are helping you? How about people making death threats ag… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 03:31 PM |
| -2 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)My cause was to point out that both sides get insults. My example showcased my point. The mother comment was the insult against me and those that threw the insult thought that I would be impacted by it. Your mother is not you, she is not your property (I am not trying to say you think she is, that would be stupid), she is not an extension of your self. She is hopefully someone you love and care for. Someone saying they have sex or whatever with your mother is not an insult to you in any way shap… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 03:18 PM |
| -5 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)And that is still a problem, a different type of problem to be sure but still a problem. It happens with certain games and no doubt preferrable to the abuse women get in other games to some. Women playing games get treated differently because they are women. It is a problem no matter which direction the treatment goes. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 02:57 PM |
| -3 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)You learned things about your mother... funny you mentiuoned that, an example where you were not insulted. You mother was. You might get angry over your mother being insulted and no one would fault you for that but you were not insulted. Not really helping your cause. I do not think it is fair at all but arguing about it is pointless as there is no way to prove it one way or the other. All I know is I get insulted for not being very good at a game, I see women insulted for who they are. In my mi… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 02:47 PM |
| -1 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)It's really not. There are tons or competative communities that are not shit. There are bad apples in every community sure but very few other communities activly defend people being assholes like you are. Not to even mention the number of people being assholes in gaming. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 02:37 PM |
| -4 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)So basically your reasoning is "We need to start treating women as equals in video games, but still give them special treatment when it comes to addressing them." How about we not be assholes to anybody. That is what I want. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 01:27 PM |
| 0 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Please show me where I said that. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 01:12 PM |
| -5 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Let me just assume what you are saying is true, I don't really care if it is because it makes no difference. Basically the gaming community needs to grow up up. One of the worst communities surrounding any hobby in the world. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 12:49 PM |
| -3 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Because women playing games get those exact same insults men get. You don't know if it is a woman that you are insulting. And when people do find out they move to being insulted because they are female ontop of just generally being insulted. Oh and besides, please consider that the other extreme exists too: Women are often treated exaggerately nicely by many guys, getting favorable treatment in the game and so on. Which is extremely annoying I imagine when you just want to play a game. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 09:31 AM |
| -4 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)I have literally not heard anyone ever say "Your Momma!" online in my life. I have never seen a guy insulted for being a guy in a game in my life. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 09:06 AM |
| 3 | Women are gamers, but largely absent from “e-sports” (arstechnica)Men are not targeted because they are men. Women get the same as men and then someone finds out they are female and it gets worse. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Pa. woman admits Craigslist killing in interview: “When I hit 22, I stopped counting.”For that site listing female serial killers, rare in this case means less than 10%. The best study I have seen says 6.5% | /r/MensRights | 17/02/14 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Man uses hidden crotch camera to catch women perving at his package on the subway. They can be pervs too! [x-post from r/videos]I think it is a bit more complicated than "looking doesn't hurt anyone". But it sure does take a lot of writing to explain why. But in certain wider social contexts come into play on the wrong day I can see why it could be upsetting to someone. And peoples feelings are important. You might not agree with their feelings but that is not a reason to be an ass. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/14 09:16 PM |
| -5 | Man uses hidden crotch camera to catch women perving at his package on the subway. They can be pervs too! [x-post from r/videos]Im sorry these types of videos are pointless. Who knows how many people didn't look. Who knows if he tried 1000 people or 100. People look, doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong. Just don't be a creep and make anyone feel uncomfortable. Unless he got those peoples consent to be put on the internet it is a kind of scummy thing to do. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/14 08:33 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone notice /r/feminism doesn't really talk about anything?We are not a hate group, we are, like you said, an open community, which is why we accomplish what they cannot. Not poking fun or anything but what has the MRM accomplished that Feminism has not? | /r/MensRights | 15/01/14 06:49 AM |
| 1 | I'm frustrated because I can't make any leeway with transexuals.Well what did you say? They are saying you are a rad feminist who doesn't think MtF are women... Any reason they would say that? You say you are probably ignorant about lots of trans issues... well there are a lot of issues you should be aware of, its quite possible to say something quite offensive without realising it because in our culture certain things are bashed into our skulls at a young age and you never think to question it. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/14 10:24 PM |
| 7 | Black men have a 50% chance of being arrested by age 23. For white men it's 40%. Arrest records can seriously affect men's chances of being hired, finding housing, and being accepted to colleges. WhitI guess that explains it, I live in South Africa all you have to do to get out of an arrest here is slip a cop some money unless it is really serious (and or there are lots of police around). When I was younger I did lots of stupid things. Seriously like really dumb often criminal behaviour which I am not going to confess to here. But the police let me off on things I am not sure they should have, sometimes because it was just the kind of stuff where you go kids will be kids other times seriousl… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 08:28 PM |
| 32 | Black men have a 50% chance of being arrested by age 23. For white men it's 40%. Arrest records can seriously affect men's chances of being hired, finding housing, and being accepted to colleges. WhitForget about mens rights for the moment... what the hell are these people doing? I don't live in America but these numbers seem crazy high. I have to struggle to think of someone who has been arrested before. With the concept of privilege you cannot look at a single statistic and say well clearly male privilege is BS. This is an important issue but I am not sure it speaks so much to mens rights as it does to other things. Not saying that it is not relevant though. Gender expectations could play … | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Complaining about Boys being BoysIn theory I agree, but it really depends what specific behaviour are we talking about here? | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 07:43 PM |
| 6 | Complaining about Boys being BoysAny article that uses the word rabid that many times should probably be taken with a grain of salt. Even if you believe in what the article is saying that boys are not girls and that the left and feminists want boys to be girls, just tone down the retoric. Lets step back and consider that moving beyond our biology is a major part of being human. Getting angry and wanting to hit something is just biology, it cannot be helped but we expect people to keep it under control. There are hundreds of exa… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 07:19 PM |
| -1 | Women have more purchasing power but it's impossible to know how much more [aka women spending 80% is a feminist type fabrication]In other words, it was a lie told to get attention for women. Which is a good thing if women are/were not being considered by advertisers and designers. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/14 06:57 PM |
| -4 | Any gay MRA's out there?It was in reponse to someone who said online feelings do not matter. I was trying to help the guy understand why people view the MRM in a negative light. The thread was about someone not knowing that MRA's were so hated. That is not being a troll. You can disagree with my opinion but it was a valid time to voice it. Do I really have to to justify every single comment I have ever made on the subject to you? | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 05:09 AM |
| -5 | Any gay MRA's out there?It is a broad generalisation so it won't be true for everyone but a general opinion I have found here is that women should not be entitled to child support if the man does not want the child. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 04:56 AM |
| -1 | Any gay MRA's out there?The question was asked, I answered. Me disagreeing with certain opinions held by the MRM movement now and in the past does not make me a troll. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 04:46 AM |
| -2 | Any gay MRA's out there?I am not going to start a pity party where I start calculating who has it worse, everyone has different experiences it does no good to start generalising. I have had things pretty good but I have lesbian friends who have not. We all have individual experiences. Lesbians get their share of issues too. Beyond that, me being a man is not the source of the hate, its the being gay, I cannot see it as a mens issue, its a LGBT issue. Lesbians get it pretty bad here in South Africa. In the upper income … | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 04:34 AM |
| -6 | Any gay MRA's out there?I am gay, not an MRA though. I find much of the MRA community to be quiet toxic on issues I care about. It is not about what you care about, it is the reaction and general attitude of the community to these issues. Add some very objectable actions taken by MRA's and I cannot identify as an MRA. edit: I guess when it comes down to it, I do not feel in anyway disadvantaged steming from me being a man. No one has ever discriminated against me for being male. Granted I will not have to deal with man… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/14 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Because male privilege, right?Not seeing anything relevant to show that men narrowly commit more crimes. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 08:19 PM |
| -18 | MRAs want to take rights away from women!Oh Jesus Christ. Are you seriously using a fictional quote to justify your own feelins on the matter. It looks like you are trying to draw conclusions about an entire movement based on a fictional quote? I am sure there are Feminists who have said it in that exact word order, but you are not even giving it the context those people might give it. Everyone in this subreddit should be embarrassed that this is the most upvoted comment in this thread. Anyone who thinks they can draw conclusions about… | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Because male privilege, right?Got a source on that narrowly? I mean that is quite a specific thing to say. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 03:08 PM |
| 1 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedOh I think there is some truth in it, not so much for this form but MRA's in general (no everyone obviously, there are real issue but even you must have seen some MRA's who are just sad it isn't the 1950's anymore.). Just like I think there is something similar going on with white people and affirmative action as well.I don't agree with everything she says but that bit of writing is to perfect. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 08:34 AM |
| 0 | Feminists at Work, how to deal with them?The issue is this is not a court of law, they do not need evidence of wrong doing to put a strike next to his name. One or two comments are not likely to get you fired in most offices. It is about looking better if future incidents occur. If he just denies sure it may be better now if things go his way but next time? You just look like you don't give a shit about your co workers. Also it makes the person you offended more likely to resent you provoking future problems. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Feminists at Work, how to deal with them?If the company has an HR department they have a set of rules likely written up by a lawyer. It is basically a check list to ensure the company will not face liability issues if they are enforced. It is not a mad assumption as to what those are. Pretty much everything sexual in nature whether a joke or touching is most likely going to be banned. As for your situation (which does not sound relevant here), it is tough. You sat by and let people break the rules. Other people breaking the rules is no… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 07:53 PM |
| 7 | I'm Worried about the Occidental Form Incident. What can we do to get our reputation back?And this is why MRA's are hated by large groups of people. You can stand up, raise your hand in a fist and shout "I am right god dammit" and it won't matter at all. People are still just going to dismiss you as assholes. There is a time and a place for radical actions that break social norms, that time is not now for mens rights activists. PPeople view men as dominant regardless if that is true or not so bullying tactics are not going to be well received. When you have a bad reputation people di… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 06:48 PM |
| -2 | Feminists at Work, how to deal with them?It is not a witch hunt, he is in the wrong. He broke a rule of the work place which he would have been required to know when signing his contract regardless of whether he agrees with them. This is a mitigate damages if you want to keep your job type thing. And yes the numbers are probably going to be against him, but it is not a witch hunt. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Swedish parliament removes Baroque artist's bare breasted painting for offending feminists and MuslimsI get why it is an important issue, but this isn't a mens issue, it has nothing to do with mens rights. You really have to go on a round about path to even try to connect it to mens rights. I doubt it would even make it here if it didn't have femenism in the title. I actually agree with taking down the painting. Simply because I believe everyone deserves a comfortable working environment. If the room is used to host foreign dignitaries it shouldn't offend their sensibilities. It is very differen… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 06:28 PM |
| -5 | Feminists at Work, how to deal with them?This is speaking about the comment, not the second case. The work place is a professional environment, you are expected to act in a professional way. She had every right to report you. It may seem unfair but the comment was unprofessional and not appropriate for the work place regardless of your views on feminism. As for what you should do, just apologise for acting in an unprofessional manner. Yes that is an admi8ssion of guilt but it is your best chance of reconciliation. You are in the wrong … | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Swedish parliament removes Baroque artist's bare breasted painting for offending feminists and MuslimsHow is this a mens rights issue? | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 02:27 PM |
| 0 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedBecause that is a very widely held belief. If you look at the entire history of western civilisation, now certainly does look like the most equal everyone has been. There are articles all over the web on the subject. Gwaker got the best quote from the college. (Not sure which member said it.) The men targeting Occidental's anonymous report form are mad that women are being listened to, that men's voices are no longer given so much power that they can effectively drown out the voices of women. Th… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 06:56 AM |
| 1 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedYet we are emotional creatures. I could yell and shout at you and be very rude yet at the same time making rationally sound points and you wouldn't just go well you are right. No one does that. We feel offended and get defensive and many times dismiss the points other people make no matter how good they are. You see it hundreds of times a day even here on reddit where we are not even speaking in person, all we see is text. Emotion may be less credible than rationality (in some peoples minds, I d… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 12:08 AM |
| 2 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedYou might consider that this is why MRA's are viewed in a negative light. Because peoples feelings always matter, online or not. If you ignore the human element (How people feel) when trying to achieve a human rights goal you are never going to get anywhere. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 10:01 PM |
| 3 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedhttp://mobile.theverge.com/2013/12/19/5226756/400-fake-rapes-reported-by-mens-rights-activists-at-la-college | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 08:51 PM |
| -19 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedYour feeling that I am attempting to persecute the people in this subreddit is quite telling of my original statement. I mean no harm to the people here. I wish you would occupy your time with less hating on feminism and more actual advocating mens rights but that is about it, I guess also less feeling sorry for yourselves. I am sorry you feel persecuted by my actions but I must refer you to my original comment, it is a delusion, I am not trying to make you doubt yourself only point out another … | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 06:45 PM |
| -28 | I had no idea MRAs were so hatedWoah some major persecutory delusions going on in this subreddit. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Wait, this isn't right...Best way to prove it is broken, the most direct sure. Best in the sense of most effective quite possibly, but still morally wrong in my eyes. I take it you are a fan of the ends justifying the means, I don't subscribe to that. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Wait, this isn't right...I got your perspective a long time ago, I just think you are wrong. If you think it is a bad tool there are other ways of protest that do not involved false rape accusations. Use one of them. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Wait, this isn't right...Rape accusations should NEVER, EVER be brought to any campus administration. They do not have the knowledge, the training or the impartiality to properly handle ANY of these claims, whether they are for "information gathering" as you would have us believe or not. In any case, the school should not be gathering this information in the first place, it's not their business. Rape accusations should go DIRECTLY to law enforcement. If you want to argue this fine, there is a good case to be made there,… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 07:05 PM |
| -1 | Wait, this isn't right...Nope. It would be an unfair and inaccurate generalization that shows a poor understanding of the facts of the matter. What we want in this case being the recognition that giving people a means to anonymously accuse others of serious crimes is inherently unjust. And you did that by making false rape accusations. You made false accusations of rape to "in this case being the recognition that giving people a means to anonymously accuse others of serious crimes is inherently unjust" (aka what you wan… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Wait, this isn't right...You said it yourself, false rape accusations are disgusting, so you should be equally disgusted with this form, because it ENABLES false rape accusations.. and not only that.. it protects the accuser by granting them anonymity. No I am disgusted by the people who used the form in such a manner. A gun enables you to kill quickly but I am not disgusted at the gun. The best way to stress test a technological system is to use it. And wasn't it you that was saying that these aren't rape accusations, … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 06:17 PM |
| -3 | Wait, this isn't right...You know what we can do this all day so down to brass tacks. Would it be fair to say you think using false rape accusations is an acceptable why to get what you want. What you want in this case being the removal of a web form aimed at helping rape victims anonymously report a rape. If that is your position there is no point in us talking because I don't think under any scenario it is acceptable to use false rape accusations to get what you want. I cannot imagine many things more morally bankrupt… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 06:04 PM |
| -1 | Wait, this isn't right...Making false accusations of rape is wrong. You don't prove kidnapping is wrong by kidnapping some kid just to show how bad someones security is. Why do that with rape accusations? There are plenty of alternatives but you chose to accuse people of rape when they did not rape anyone. It is disgusting. It is slacktivism, that is what it is. Morally bankrupt slacktivism. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 05:18 PM |
| 0 | Wait, this isn't right...No that translates into MRA's from this very subreddit purposefully making false accusations using the form, how? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Wait, this isn't right...Let me just assume that everything you say is correct, it is not but lets just assume it is. That translate into lets make false rape accusations how? | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 04:47 PM |
| -5 | Wait, this isn't right...Don't try to redirect this comment chain. It is about false rape accustions. That is a possible solution to a problem, one that is widely implemented across the world. I am not getting into a discussion of its merits because I do not know how successful it is. Feel free to argue against it I don't care, I won't respond as I am not sure on all the facts about it. I will however point out that no it is not every Male, women are also banned from mens dorms after certain times with that rule. It is … | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 10:54 AM |
| -4 | Wait, this isn't right...Because it is not meaningless. It is used for gathering information about sexual assualt. The information gathered can be used to help make sure it doesn't happen again. If they get lots of reports from one particular area they can employ a guard for that area. If it is an issue in the dorms they can take apropriate measures, no guests of the opisite gender after a certain time of day or whatever. This not about catching people, the police need to be involved for that, this is about creating a s… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 10:40 AM |
| 8 | Wait, this isn't right...This is not a legal proceeding. You don't have that right. You have the right to face your accuser in a court of law. No courts are involved here. No one is taking you to court. It is basically an anonymous tip line, really that is all. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 10:23 AM |
| -5 | Wait, this isn't right...None of your rights are being violated. Find one being violated by that form. Seriously. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 10:08 AM |
| 29 | Wait, this isn't right...So what is a good reason to falsely accuse someone of rape? Just so I know when I can accuse you of raping someone when you actually haven't rape anyone. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 09:26 AM |
| 33 | Wait, this isn't right...This place literally less than 24 hours ago was advocating making false accusations of rape against women. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/13 08:29 AM |
| -4 | Youtuber Thunderf00t explains why 'feminism' is working against equal gender rights.True but then don't act like that is all of feminism. It is like saying Mens Rights Activism is terrible now let me tell you why by talking about something most MRA's don't even believe. This sub reddit is very guilty of doing this. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 10:08 AM |
| -5 | Youtuber Thunderf00t explains why 'feminism' is working against equal gender rights.Sorry I am an indvidual, I express my own individual opinion, I do not need to take responsibility for someone else's opinion just because they call themself the same thing I call myself. Its not like feminism has an offitial mouth piece. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 09:58 AM |
| -9 | Youtuber Thunderf00t explains why 'feminism' is working against equal gender rights.Except they are the vast minority of feminists in my experience. They are just the easiest to quote mine so they are the ones you hear about the most. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Why are we in society promoting misandry instead of making it as equally wrong as misogyny? How can we make people aware of the effect it is having on society?The reason is simple, people complain and hold rallies and jump up and down when it comes to misogyny. And here you all are complaining about misandry on the internet. No one takes you seriousl, many even percieve you as a hate group. As right or as wrong as that is. No one except mens rights activists takes your group seriously, it is because you don't actually do anything. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 08:07 AM |
| -18 | Youtuber Thunderf00t explains why 'feminism' is working against equal gender rights.Thunderfoot does not understand feminism, he believes feminism is the internets caricature of feminism. It is abundantly clear every time he opens his mouth on the subject he has no knowledge in the area. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 07:13 AM |
| 0 | A divorced New York father is suing his ex-wife for Twitter stock worth up to $50 million he claims she hid from him during their marriage - while making him pay $2,465 a month in child-support payments even though he was broke.It you do not understand the difference between a shit and a child there might be something wrong with you. Seriously, read what you wrote. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/13 06:45 AM |
| -5 | A divorced New York father is suing his ex-wife for Twitter stock worth up to $50 million he claims she hid from him during their marriage - while making him pay $2,465 a month in child-support payments even though he was broke.Yeah child is not partly his responsibility at all /s | /r/MensRights | 28/11/13 09:27 PM |
| 0 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.But that's not how it works. If you can't pay for whatever reason, you get charged with a felony and go directly to prison. Current system is not perfect, it can be improved on. Why mentally disabled and not simply unwilling? If you are so mentally disabled that you cannot be a parent (from a car crash or whatever) an you cannot do anything other than menial tasks and you cannot even understand why you are paying it is time for society to take over that burden for you. I don't expect the impossi… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 06:03 PM |
| 0 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.What about men who don't have jobs who are still required to pay? You cannot pay temporarily so dis own the child so you don't pay ever again? Better if you stop paying until you get a new job if you don't have the saving to keep up the payments. I would accept mentally disabled as a valid reason, I can see how that could work. There might be a few other ways where I could see it being the only real option. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 05:34 PM |
| 0 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.We're talking about Legal Paternal Surrender. It is the male equivalent to abortion. If you don't want to talk about the morality of abortion then the entire discussion is moot. I accept that it exists and I accept that itn is probably for the best. But if it was illegal then the situation would be fair correct? The situation for men would also be unchanged correct? An if you were to fight for this you would be fighting to remove rights of women with no benefit for men correct? And what if certa… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 05:21 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Wow poor people literally don't care about caring for their children. That is really what you are going to go for? In my first post in the other thread I said what you guys want is anti poor but I had no clue it was this bad. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 05:11 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.How is this argument against abortion any different? No matter how hard you try the father cannot have an abortion. The mother can. You are free to argue abortion shouldn't be legal if you want, not a subject I am getting involved in though. So you don't believe abortion or adoption are moral? Both are immoral in certain circumstances not in others. Adoption depends on what is best for the child. Aborting a child is immoral if you just don't want it but if certain realities make it a necessary I… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 05:00 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Not according to our current laws. I am not saying current laws are perfect. How is this any different from if he had consensual sex but didn't consent to becoming a father? He consented to the sex which comes with the possibility of becoming a father. Using the law to justify a moral position is a terrible argument. It should always work in the reverse. Slavery used to be perfectly legal, did that make it moral? Read the first part of what I said then. You have a moral obligation to your childr… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 04:48 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Feel free to tell me what you think the problem with them is and then I can tell you if I agree, as far as I can tell they never came up in the other thread. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 04:37 PM |
| 0 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Well if he was raped obviously that changes things. In my opinion if that happened once the baby is born he gets full custody (no obligation to let the mother have access to the child unless he decides otherwise) recieving child support from the mother once she gets out of jail (state assisting in the mean time) or he can choose not to accept the child and the child goes to state care. Then paying taxes is a violation, lots of things are. Also you lose your right to freedom or whatever it is cal… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 04:27 PM |
| -2 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.So you're ok with the expectation that they choose to bring a child to term who will live in poverty, and you feel that the responsibility for this choice (and the choice not to give it up for adoption) should fall squarely on the man who had no part in either decision? How does that make any sense? Nope man had nothing to do with having a child none. He was just walking down the street and now he is a father. Shit just happens. No part of that decision at all. And no the woman has an equal resp… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 04:16 PM |
| -2 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.What part of his body is involved in that? He chose to have sex, that was his choice, sex leads to babies, after that no part of his body is involved in having that baby. Where is the violation? | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 04:03 PM |
| -2 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Because people should not be forced or put under extreme pressure into abortions. It cannot be an expectation that women will just abort their children. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 03:53 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Nope, that would be illegal and would violate a womens right to her body. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Suck it up and payWhen has it become ok to just expect someone to abort their child? I have seen this said in this subredit like 20 times in the past 24 hours. That is insane. I cannot think how anyone could be a worse person than just saying just have an abortion I don't want to pay for it not my responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 03:29 PM |
| -2 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.You cannot just expect someone to abort their child. That is disgusting. Oh just kill your kid because the father does not want to be responsible for his own child, honestly I cannot think of a way it could be worse. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 03:18 PM |
| -1 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.If a woman has an abortion there is no kid to suffer from a parent not wanting to pay for it, it no longer exists. The same does not hold true if the man walks away. If you want to argue against abortion being legal that is fine. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 03:08 PM |
| -4 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.That what you said makes no sense. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 02:50 PM |
| -3 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.If a woman has an abortion there is no child. If the man walks away there is. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 02:40 PM |
| -3 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.No just wanting men to have the ability to say I don't give a fuck I am not responsible for my own child without providing another way to ensure the child does not suffer. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 02:30 PM |
| 3 | double standardI often hear that she could do better or he must have money, all in all something negative toward the man. I guess there is some truth to that at least the money part. There is a lot of trying to explain why she is with him. It is never that he could just be a great guy. Also true that I don't hear the reverse happening trying to explain why a hot guy is with an obese woman unless it is she is desperate so will do anything, normally implying something kinky. In both cases it can be insulting to … | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 01:29 PM |
| 3 | double standardWho are the people making the comments? I don't see people fat shaming obese men who are with hot women. I guess neckbeard is a thing but I have never heard anyone actually using it other than to insult someone who uses reddit. Maybe I live ina different culture but I have never seen it in real life. I have only heard online feminists saying those things about the women but I hear men all the time fat shaming women calling them whales and such idiocy. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 12:55 PM |
| 0 | Suck it up and payI understand the objections you guys make, fairness of the law, in letting both side have the same options works great when both side are the same going in. If that is the case it leads to the same results but that is not the case here. Equality in the law disproportionatly punishes one side in this case, it leads to worse results. I can smtomach making a father pay for his own child when he doesn't want it, thee father does have responsibility there he did create the child even if it is unfair … | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 09:48 AM |
| -16 | I lurk here almost every week. I am a woman and I support everyone in this subreddit 110%.Read the coments in this thread. The MRM has its own set of bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 08:54 AM |
| -1 | Suck it up and payIgnoring exagerations in that there are only 90 comments in the chain and I didn't reply to close to half the replies. People keep making the same objections I make the same replies. I am not going to change my stance because a different person made the objection. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/13 07:48 AM |
| -12 | Suck it up and payChild support is based on income. There are cases where to much is taken but that is something we can improve. It doesn't mean we should throw out the entire system and just say men can just walk away with no responsibilities. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 11:38 PM |
| 0 | Suck it up and payAnd downvoting based on disagreeing is also against reddiquette, I am discussing relevant issues to the topic. It contributions to the discussion. Besides if people don't want to hear what I have to say why are people asking questions and trying pro provoke responses? If only it were that simple, I have known men who have lost their jobs, and still had to pay out hundreds a month despite the fact that it would be a physical impossibility, so the solution to that? Of course, lock them up, that sh… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 11:28 PM |
| -11 | Suck it up and payYou are literally asking someone to give away their child that they want to keep because someone else does not want to pay for their own child. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 10:53 PM |
| -2 | Suck it up and payWith 5 replies coming in every 10 minutes I have to write quickly to get to everyone. What I wrote is sound. At the time of conception the financial situation is one way, then the father leaves with no reprocussions completely changing the financial situation. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 10:43 PM |
| -3 | Suck it up and payWhere strength is relevant sure. But it is increasingly becoming irrelevant. If a woman is physically not strong enough to fly a plane and it will crash if she does obviously she cannot pilot that plane. Having strength requirements exist for certain jobs is already a thing. But we should naturally minimise the downsides of the biological differences but it is not always possible. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 10:08 PM |
| -8 | Suck it up and payLife's a bitch. Grow up. I could say this about men having to pay child support but I am not, just because life can be cruel that does not mean we cannot try to improve it. No it does not. See also: Giving the kid up for adoption or dropping the kid off at a safe harbor approved fire station. "Maternity Leave" exists. You're a fucking troll. You are asking some to give up their child to save yourself a buck because you don't want to pay for your own child? That is legitimately a horrible thing t… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 09:57 PM |
| -5 | Suck it up and payVery true which is why each case has the possibility of going to court. I am not going to claim the courts are always fair though. There is always room for improvement but letting the father just walk away is not the answer. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 09:43 PM |
| -10 | Suck it up and payI am not religous but an abortion is an invasive medical prcedure in somee cases but beyond that, whether or not you think the fetus is a baby or not it can be heart breaking to lose your unborn child, some women never recover fully from it. It is not something I can support ever pressuring anyone into. My friend had an abortion 5 years ago she was a wreck for a long time (she is religious). She did it because the father decided he did not want it and she would have had to be a single mother, I … | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 09:33 PM |
| -24 | Suck it up and payAs I said it is a crappy situation that cannot be fair. I don't think someing not wanting to take care of their own kid because they don't want to spend the money should take priority. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 09:22 PM |
| -14 | Suck it up and payThe shitty situation deciding if you want to go solo as a parent or getting an abortion overrules a mans decision to either pay for the child he doesn't want until it reaches adulthood or run away and be subject to jail? When the man put himself into that situation himself. Sure why not. When giving the man the option of backing out leads to the situation I described above. So can the woman. Equality exists here. In fact, there are more options for women to choose if they are ready or not. Almos… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 09:08 PM |
| -28 | Suck it up and payUnfortunately it is a crappy situation that cannot be fair. I just think putting that pressure on a woman to have an abortion when she does not want one is about the worst thing you can do. Not much better than strapping her to the table yourself and forcing it to happen. Now if the money could be made up from different places it is a different story but it comes with its own problems. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 08:58 PM |
| -1 | Australia's new prime minister appoints a Cabinet based on merit and experience, feminists lose their shit because only one Cabinet member is a woman.Feel free. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 08:48 PM |
| -60 | Suck it up and payYeah but that leaves a shitty situation. It pressures the women into having an abortion if she is not not financially stable enough to have the kid which is likely if she is not at least middle class with all the time off mothers have to take. Your course of action is anti poor. With how it is now the man at least can choose to use protection if he does not want a kid (not perfect). Your way a couple could choose to have a kid, then the guy backs out (no down sides) all but forcing an abortion o… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Suck it up and payIt is not one size fits all, each case is judged based on the parents circumstances. It is not perfect but it is not on size fits all. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 08:12 PM |
| 17 | Suck it up and payIn theory you are right, that would be best but unfortunatly people are shitty and many people would rather just dump the baby leaving it to die rather than pay. That is why there are safe drops for unwanted children. I would rather pay my share in taxes that goes towards helping those children than have more babies dumped and left to die. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 07:42 PM |
| 0 | Suck it up and payMany times one parent does not want custody. Other times one parent is simply not fit for it. The world is not as simple where applying a one size fits all solutions works out best. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 07:29 PM |
| -18 | Suck it up and payWow that is worded in a really obtuse way to make the issue seem worse than it is. There is an imbalance in power in abortions (and arguably in a few other places) but that is due to biology. Biology is clearly misandry. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!People consistently vote for the government to interfere in there lives it is about the only common trend through out history. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!The state doesn't need to be but if people want them to be what do I care. Whatever makes them happy. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!No you don't but lots of people want it. Some people have religous reasons, others just feel it is the right thing. Whatever someones reasons it is sad they feel they cannot fufill their desires. Now you can be all super libertarian if you want, but I say if they want it whatever the reason and they dont do it because of unfairness (real or not) it is bad. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!Marriage was real 100 years ago when you could beat and rape your wife legally? (Depending where in the world you are, fairly certain it hold for America though) I really hope that is not what you are saying. 100 years ago the man had pretty much 100% control of the marriage. Whether or not there is an economic unfairness now it is still a vastly bnetter situation than what we 100 years ago. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/13 07:09 AM |
| -9 | Why Should Men Marry?Yes /r/mensrights is totally not anti women. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!When has it been marriage in your opinion then? I am just assuming it is as bad as you lot seem to think it is (I have never been married so I am not going to comment on itt). Yes is it very sad that they feel they cannot get married again. Marriage can make people very happy, if the current state of affairs is stopping that it is terrible news, not great news. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 10:44 PM |
| 5 | Great news! U.S. Remarriage Rate Plummets!!!People not getting remarried is not great news assuming it is because of a perceived (real or not) unfairness. People getting married and being happy is a good thing, it is bad when people who would normally want this no longer feel it is wise. Wanting to stay unmarried is fine if that is what you want but people wanting to be married but not getting married because of perceived unfairness (real or not) is terrible news not great news. edit. I am aware that the article does not explicitly state … | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Why men sit with their legs apart. (spoilers: it's not "privilege", nor simply your balls)There is touching and touching. If you are invading that persons space you do need to back off. example You can clearly see his legs are way to wide and intruding on that woman's space. Everything is a matter of degree, I am not saying self sacrifice to the point where you are in extreme discomfort, if that is even possible with sitting with your legs closed, I have never had an issue with it. Just be considerate of those around you. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 10:06 PM |
| -3 | Why men sit with their legs apart. (spoilers: it's not "privilege", nor simply your balls)When space is tight close you legs it is not going to harm you unless you have some medical condition that I have never heard of. Yes it is less comfortable but when space is tight you are just making the space tighter making it more uncomfortable for everyone. If you are hurting for closing your legs for 30 minutes you have a medical condition, seek help from a doctor. It is just an issue of respect for those around you. If there is space feel free to make yourself more comfortable. Does anyone… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 09:51 PM |
| -3 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Its not because we have said its not! That is what society is, human rules made up by humans. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 03:30 PM |
| -4 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Sorry I mean't your wife cannot take out her dislike of you on her/your kids. Denying visitation etc. Its not a pefect system so it happens but I was merely saying that if she is doing that she should lose custody. If eiyther parent takes out their dislike of the other on the kid they should lose custody. But while you are sorting that out you cannot stop paying. You kid needs that money. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 03:20 PM |
| -5 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?I am not much of an expert on feminist litrature but wasn't that written by a literal crazy person that became homeless and murdered someone or at least attempted to? I am fairly certain that thing did cause quite the "circus". I don't know enough about the document to know if it is satire, however based on the womens later actions Im inclinde to say it wasn't. I am not saying it is a good tag line but in the debate description it takes a whole different tone. It says nothing about men being wor… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:56 PM |
| -7 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?We as a society have decided that children are more important than the squabbling of their parents. We put the child first. Not getting your child what it needs to survive is child abuse. You are responsible for that child. Just like if you and your ex were still together. If child support is slavery so is being married and having a child. Either way you have to pay for it. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:48 PM |
| -17 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Only if you knew and willingly accepted the situation. Otherwise, you're a victim of your wife's fraud and they should go after the biological father, not you Verys with context. Yet she's free to deny you any chance to see your own children. What would you call that? You don't see any imbalance here? Not that is way I added the last bit where I said the same goes for the wife. Child should be taken away from her if she refuses court ordered visitation. Say she keeps the child with its grandmoth… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:40 PM |
| -9 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?You can say the same about republicans apparently as well. Are you going to claim the same about them. There are litterally thousands of groups you could say that about. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:30 PM |
| -7 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?You might want to think about what that slogan means. Does it mean men are worthless? Doesn't sound like it to me. I don't need a computer but it is far from worthless. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:26 PM |
| -10 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?She doesn't seem like much more than a columnist. Not that there is anything wrong with that but wiki says she cannot even move 10k books with good publisgher backing. If she says what you claim she says fair enough but not many are taking her seriously clearly. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:22 PM |
| -9 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?No it wouldn't be slavery because you would still need to give that person permission to spend the money you earn. And no child support is not slavery. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:19 PM |
| -32 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?What if the kids turn out not to be yours? You still pay for them. If you have been acting like you are their parent yes. You don't get to abandon the kid if you have become the kids father. Being the mothers BF is not the same as being the kids father. That should be clear. What if she won't let you see them despite court rulings? You still pay for them. Don't take out disputes with your ex on your kids. If you cannot do that you shouldn't have the right to see them. That applies to your wife a… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:13 PM |
| -3 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Seems like a over done tag line to catch attention what youer link says they are actually talking about is a debate worth having, are woman now doing better than men? What is the current gender divsion looking like, where are we heading. Is that not something MRA's want feminists to be talking about? | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:08 PM |
| -11 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?I don't believe alimony should exist in any form whatsoever. You stayed at home for 30 years and now want to divorce your husband? Well, hope you enjoyed the multi-year holiday, because now it's time to find a job. And don't try the 'husbands divorce wives' line, because they rarely do. Almost all divorces are initiated by women. Instead of arguing with you I am just going to ask, what about those husbands who do start the divorce in this situation. You wife takes an 18 year break from work to r… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 01:03 PM |
| -8 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Yes. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:50 PM |
| -11 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Who is saying men are worthless? I have never in my life outside a tongue and cheek fashion heard any one even hint that. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:48 PM |
| -9 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?I am saying the quote is complete crap. I thought I made that pretty clear. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:46 PM |
| -31 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?That is some nice conspirancy theory bullshit. There is a reason alimony exists, it can be argued quite successfully in many if not most cases it no longer should but there are valid reasons why it happens. If you are complaining about child support fuck you you have kids you pay for them. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:42 PM |
| -17 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?Please find a feminist anyone saying that men should not be payed for the work they do, that quote sounds like complete crap. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 12:24 PM |
| -9 | What would happen if no men showed up for work today?What would happen if half the entire worlds population didn't go to work... nothing happens. No shit.Anyone who actually works knows if you remove even a tiny amount of the work force operations may as well shut down. Im not really sure what the point is here. In any operation everyone is important, they don't hire you if they don't need you. This article holds exactly the same for woman. If all women did not go to work everything colaspes too. Edit. Are you guys trying to get reflected glory be… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 11:07 AM |
| -1 | Australia's new prime minister appoints a Cabinet based on merit and experience, feminists lose their shit because only one Cabinet member is a woman.You must have trouble comprehending what words mean. In what way does Women in Australia are LITERALLY more oppressed than women in Afghanistan and/or Saudi Arabia. equal I was disenfranchised in the last election by the behaviour and policies of the major parties. It appears, as a woman, in Australia I have more in common with the women in Afghanistan than I ever imagined. I remain disenfranchised. P.S. replied with this account because the mods banned me on the account you replied to. | /r/MensRights | 17/09/13 06:22 PM |
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