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Boobs to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:01 AM
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Trump fucked the pooch on that with jan 6th, not to mention with the repubs killing a ton of single issue abortion voters incentive to vote by overturning roe(not to mention that it really pissed off a lot of dems).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:01 AM
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Or you don’t generalize on looks and get to know the person as an individual. Ive known some really really shitty people who are also butt ass ugly on the outside too. In fact, ironically some of the shittiest people ive known are all fairly unattractive. Likewise, ive also known some really down to earth amazing people who are also physically attractive. Looks really has little to no bearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:59 AM
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probably has a glutton for punishment. Depends on perspective. If you have low self worth and view every ‘no’ as a slight against you then then yeah it’s rough but if you view a random telling you no as nothing more than an inconvenience then you’re fine. and we dont know if those 19 converted. Doesn’t matter. You don’t go out with every tinder match either. In fact the rates of that are even lower. Point is you got 19 yeah’s and if even half of them follow through that’s 9 dates. Truthfully non…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:41 PM
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Not really since he didn’t get rejected by every girl. Dude got 19 yes answers and 81 no’s. Or a 19% success rate. Higher if you subtract the women who were with their boyfriends/girlfriends when he asked. That’s loads better than if he tried his luck on tinder. I do agree you need thick skin tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:14 PM
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Idk. this guy wasn’t remarkably attractive or anything and it worked out decently well for him. In fact his odds were statistically way better than if he downloaded a dating app(anything really will have better odds than that though.) You’re just really playing the numbers game with this strategy and can’t be too picky if you’re going to do it(and aren’t attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:09 PM
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Yeah maybe. I dunno tho those eyes look like one good jolt from flying right out of her head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:05 PM
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I’m very critical of this woman’s looks. I honestly wouldn’t be saying dick if she wasn’t talking mad shit. Probably wouldn’t even think of her looks at all other than being an unremarkable looking person. She looks normal. Maybe it’s just from being in the bay area but that’s not what normal women look like around me 😂. She’s like a California 4 man. Not butt ugly but definitely a cut below average. That personality tho makes her an easy Cali 2-3.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:24 AM
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The commission good on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:20 AM
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Im really not gonna lie but no that chick looks like she got hit right between her eyes with a frying pan. I see normal looking girls every day and she don’t look like them. If it weren’t for her deciding to shit on ‘ugly dudes’ i wouldn’t be saying anything tbh but she brought it on, so; You could land a plane between her eyes. The space between her eyes looks like it was parted by Moses himself. If she was looking up at you it would look like two fried eggs swimming around in a bowl of $5 rame…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:10 AM
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Just gonna be honest but she’s probably a gold digger
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:00 AM
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Bitch be complaining about ugly dudes dating hot women but literally looks like the physical embodiment of this: 👁 👄 👁 With some ramen noodles draped on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:58 AM
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Im not saying ban it. By all means if two people want to boink and nothing more than go for it. Just think we put an unhealthy degree towards hookups over more meaningful relationship, and it’s got a role in our more isolated society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:12 AM
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I don’t necessarily think we should pressure someone. Interestingly enough those marriage happiness studies even hold when you include single divorcees into the mix. So there’s definitely instances particularly when you’ve already experienced a super close relationship before where loneliness and unhappiness is less likely. Can even use me as an example. Of course in hindsight, i do regret having that mindset, but perhaps I needed to do that to get where i am now and perhaps i just would have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:50 AM
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Well if my above studies and argumentation is any indication i don’t personally believe it is for either gender. I don’t agree with either MGTOW or this weird idea that there’s a bunch of happy single women boss bitchin’ or WGTOW. We’re social creatures at the end of the day and there’s an abundance of data like that ive already linked that shows finding a happy fulfilling relationship can be a huge factor in not feeling lonely and being happy. I don’t think it’s a great idea to swear off relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:29 AM
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Yup. Should be a good smattering of both. Don’t go overboard on one aspect while skimping the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:24 AM
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I wouldn’t say that as much as it’s just they’re more open about it and are okay supporting each other over it. Also WGTOW definitely exists. here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:20 AM
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You literally suggested in your first comment that women being single is “just a lifestyle choice” while men need a movement like MGTOW. That definitely seems like you’re of the belief that single women are somehow not effected by loneliness leading me to link the study that that’s kinda crap and that women are just as lonely as men. And showing you the part that long term romantic relationships or lackthereof has to play in that. If this was never your stance simply correcting me way back then …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:14 AM
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what biased thinking am i supposed to change That women are somehow more immune to loneliness than men and that there’s some mystical boss bitch movement where women are just choosing to be happily single. You’ve just looked at tons of data proving that this isn’t the case and that women are on average just as lonely as men. If you at all consider yourself to be a rational human being you would not accept that this is bullshit. That it's a good idea to get married just because you're lonely? Who…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:27 AM
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the data has no impact on my judgement So you’re openly admitting you’d rather stick to biased beliefs with no numbers to back it than actual studies showing you how things are. 😂😂😂. Ive seen some delusional people but this is pretty brazen self aware levels of delusion. there’s lots of people out there trying to get into relationships for the wrong reason. Ah so the women in these studies are just “wrong” then for feeling lonely. Got it. You’re just proving my above hypothesis correct that thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:12 AM
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Er no, it’s unhealthy because statistically speaking people in general just have higher rates of loneliness when alone as opposed to being partnered up. I really don’t think people are “choosing” to feel loneliness. That’s just cold cut what the numbers show whether you like the data or not. Arguing in favor of statistics is perfectly compelling if you don’t simply want to adhere to your own biases. And there’s just not really a whole lot of numbers and stats supporting the idea that women exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:04 AM
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You seem to be contradicting yourself No im being quite consistent in pointing out that those who do not find relationships are more likely to be lonely and that loneliness rates are equal across genders thus disproving the narrative that women are off being boss bitches while men struggle more with loneliness. But then you state that you prioritized friendships Im not 18 anymore. Re read that paragraph. I was speaking in past tense. Ive since done a lot of maturing am a lot more open to doing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:58 AM
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Right here. Saw my grandparent’s relationship and the fact that my mother and father didn’t stay together and decided i wanted no part in intimacy. I like to think im recovering now. Im finally at a point where i can admit to myself i want a relationship and am taking steps to be more accepting of it and am meeting more people. Was definitely a slow burn realization over the last 2-3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:50 AM
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Not really. Adults see their friends, what, a few times a week? And then they go back to an empty apartment when the hangout is over, and from experience, an empty apartment feels miles lonelier than one filled with people. Also if you want more causation here, studies also show that marriage is a HUGE predictor of whether or not you are lonely, although id reckon that it’s more the close live in relationship than the marriage itself that matters here since marriage is just a social construct. n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:05 AM
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Sure except this has been consistent even in 2018/2019 This isn’t a new problem just due to the pandemic. The world is just simply not filled with ‘boss bitch singles’ while men are off being alone on their own and taking it worse. That’s a feel good myth a lot of people like to tell themselves though. The women I know who don't want a relationship "went their own way" long before 2020. Like...decades ago lol Anecdotes. Also good chance a few of them are more lonely than they let on. Idk about y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:38 AM
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its just a basic life decision. nope Women’s loneliness rates are actually about on par with men’s. And both are scary high and on the rise. The “it’s a lifestyle choice we’re boss bitches” narrative is just a feel good saying for women just as much as MGTOW is a feel good support group for men that helps avoid getting them back on their feet and into the game, since avoidance is much easier than facing ourselves and putti ourselves out there. In actuality the current setup is about as detriment…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:30 AM
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Except relationships aren’t just about sex. Id hope at least you’re with the person you’re with for more than just sex. That would be one lonely relationship otherwise. Relationships, at least successful ones, are BIG on companionship and you two being close emotionally as well as physically. And relationhips and/or marriages are often found to have FAR less loneliness rates than people who are not in them This particularly goes for later in life when people see their friends less and less often…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:16 AM
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Id agree in the sense that it just has you playing all avenues, but as far as a decent tool to meet people only about 50% of Tinder users ever even meet people they match with off the app and only about half of the 50% ever find someone there. Other apps shockingly have even worse rates. With Hinge in particular for all the love it gets on reddit only boasting a 6% relationship rate among it’s internal stats. So the numbers don’t particularly agree with it even being a solid tool for meeting fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:23 AM
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Given loneliness rates in modern culture it will actually be a bad thing for both genders in general unless depression, loneliness, and an increase in mental health disorders sound like net benefits to you. Humans are social creatures. The current loneliness epidemic is not really a ‘good thing’ or a ‘great idea’.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:20 AM
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Honest feedback here: Delete it if you want a boyfriend/girlfriend. Relationship odds on a dating app are slim(albeit higher for a woman) and the apps all have invested interest in keeping you on the app for as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:17 AM
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If i was also aromantic definitely sometimes lmao. I could be the money monk i always wanted to be 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:44 PM
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“Female” Oh jesus lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:42 PM
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I was overweight and most definitely not looking my best. Im in much better shape now actually, look better(all my friends agree on that), and even dress better lol. My looks were definitely not the deciding factor for that one. At least not from my perspective. Im being dead serious i have zero clue why a girl like that was into me at that point in my life. But it did help me challenge the whole “girls can just tell when you don’t feel good about yourself” narrative. I agree to an extent that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:40 PM
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To this day, no fucking clue. It’s a mystery to me(ofc she didn’t know i was low earning or depressed). I was nice enough towards her back and talked to her a lot but was so massively depressed at the time and dealing with so much crap between starting to look for another job and my grandfather dying that i decided that I shouldn’t try anything with her since it would be unfair to her. Didn’t even try to get her number to stay in touch when the class ended(I think she wanted to try on the last d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:31 PM
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Tbh you can fuck younger women while older too as long as you take care of yourself and don’t run around clearly creeping on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:18 PM
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This exactly. One of the prettiest girls to try and go after me during college came during a time when i was super low earning and MASSIVELY depressed and feeling bad about myself. When my earnings went up 7x since then and i became super happy for a while? Yeah i had nothing lmao. A few teenagers flirting with me here and there(i look young for my age. Often get mistaken for 17-19.) but that’s obviously useless to me at this age but otherwise no one I could date. And before someone says “you mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:13 PM
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Those one’s don’t have husbands they have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:04 AM
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Ah, but here’s the thing, women’s loneliness rates are actually about equivalent to men’s. They’re not really enjoying this any more than men and the idea that we have a bunch of branch swingers and “gal power single women happy with their single lives” is bullshit. If you really want to look for an enemy you have a few, but they’re generally not women: 1) The dating app industry. They’ve commodotized our dating lives and are influenced to keep is single and on the apps longer. You’re best off d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:55 AM
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Anecdotes can be fact. You saying that you went to a wedding can absolutely be fact but it’s an anecdotal fact. Same as using “there are 6,200 marriages a day” as your yardstick here is also anecdotal since it just relies on the fact that 6,200 people get married a day while ignoring the fact that far less people get married in general than we did previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:48 AM
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Anecdotal. Again pointing to the findings i linked above marriages are literally at an all time low right now. 6,200 a day sounds impressive until you dig into it and find that again only 29% of 18-34 year olds are married and at an all time low down from 59% in prior generations. Again this would be okay if we instead saw lots of LTR’s since later marriage ages isn’t particularly bad but we don’t even see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:43 AM
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Marriage has little to do with church in the last few decades and has increasingly more to do with the law and has plenty of legal benefits including tax breaks and the ability to see each other in the hospital. As someone who generally opposes marriage and is agnostic id definitely get one myself if i found my person and we started getting old together, the tax breaks are too lucrative to pass up and id hate for one us to have a hard time visiting the other if we were in the hospital. Estate pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:36 AM
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Im not really arguing that everyone hooks up all the time moreso the fact that’s what most people want. I also wouldn’t define the % of people hooking up every weekend as a good stat for the number of people participating. You can definitely be a participant in hookup culture, not want and actively reject relationships, but not actually get any every weekend and instead get it just every so often. This is definitely backed up by a record low in marriages in the US. with the level of 18-34 year o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:06 AM
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Nope. Humans are most definitely pair bonders and are far from the only primate there is that does. Our whole gestation cycle lends to that idea too with the mother being debilitated for almost a year just by having the kid, plus our long childhoods also lend more to the idea of a family unit and ancient man sticking around to provide for the impregnated mother and eventually the small relatively defenseless child and less towards ancient man fucking and leaving right away. Besides the whole fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:49 AM
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Honestly this is the best advice ive seen on reddit for dating in ages. In person socializing for meeting literally can’t be beat and is still where the overwhelming majority of relationships start. Dating apps have invested interest in keeping you on the platform, have inbalanced demographics and low relationship rates across the board. You’d be betting on a 20ish% chance of ever meeting someone you go long term with if you forgoe every other means of meeting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:45 AM
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Hinge actually statistically has some of the lowest relationship rates. Something like 6% if you go off their stats. If you must use an app Tinder ironically has some of the best relationship rates. But to be honest both are owned by the same company so you’re just feeding the same beast with a different mask at the end of the day. You’re either really good looking or for whatever reason your profile is liked better by Hinge’s algorithm right now than the other apps. Or a mix of both. Either way…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:59 PM
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They’re actually a very very small minority. Marriage rates for older generations are something like 95% for people who made it to older ages. And of those that didn’t many may have been gay/les(when it was way less acceptable and you didn’t get married), partnered but not believing in the concept of marriage, or so debilitated mentally that the concept of a relationship is just not possible to have(low functioning autistic people, Downs, severe cerebral palsy, etc.). So the number of never marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:20 PM
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Sounds more like a friendship then tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:07 PM
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Serial monogamy is still monogamy though. You still are with a romantic partner for an extended period of time. Often times years. Hookup culture denies that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:01 PM
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Yeah but loneliness rates skyrocketing alongside declining monogamy/relationship rates and increase of late term virginity insinuates that abandoning monogomy altogether has had bad effects on society as a whole. So we honestly do have a solid argument for that beyond nature tbh. While arguments for nature are generally bad so are arguments assuming that since abandoning nature has led to some good things abandoning nature is always good. Sometimes following nature is just genuinely the better o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:00 PM
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Idk about you personally. But more talking about society at large not necessarily ‘you’ personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:30 PM
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How you think. Your ideas, how you behave, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:18 PM
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We raised a few generation of kids with the expectation that they’re all special and deserve everything in life just for existing. We gave them participation trophies instead of pointing out genuine hard work. This helped raise a generation of narcissists who think they should be given everything in life and have a harder time connecting with people. Hard work and tenacity is uncommon and most will throw up their hands if they don’t get instant results. Great examples of this are incels, MGTOW/W…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:18 PM
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Probably. You can change though. Only reason why i bother spreading these ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:12 PM
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Nawh. Matchgroup just sold us a bad bill of goods with hookup culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:09 PM
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Lots of people frustrated/lonely and looking for some kind of answer as to why we’re not pairing up like our fathers and mothers did would be my guess. I don’t think it’s purely correlation that these movements rose with the uptick of loneliness, the rise of the internet, and downfall of the LTR. Hopefully we all figure this out as a generation though, and i think ditching dating apps and socializing in our communities more would be an amazing first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:01 PM
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That much is true. I think the helicoptor parent movement which led to a rise in narcissism in the west really did some damage here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:58 PM
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We’ve been doing it for over two millennia just from recorded history now in the vast majority of cultures. And we were much happier and less lonely as a society when we did pair. That seems artificial Not really we wouldn’t even be the only creatures in the animal kingdom that do it either. Everything from some species of mice, to puffins, to lovebirds, eagles, some species of monkeys and ducks all mate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:55 PM
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I actually think feminism has little to do with it. We’ve multiple had huge feminist movements across the last century without significant upticks in loneliness/lack of pairing up. The loneliness trend didn’t start till 2009, or roughly around the time internet adoption skyrocketed and we were connected with smart phones 24/7. Social media is definitely a contributor though too in making us just less social in general therefore not meeting our basic needs. I also think dating apps are a scourge …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:46 PM
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TPB too it seems. The ‘hookup culture works for women, yay feminism, it’s only men who are lonely, we’re happily single’ narrative is pretty strong to despite loneliness rates across both genders smashing that narrative to bits. Personally i think both camps are idiots. Nobody’s happy with hookup culture/non-monogomy. It’s just that a lot of people don’t want to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:40 PM
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More recently it’s also being reported among younger generations(see my links) in both genders. So a lot of the women who say they just want to fuck and that they never wanna settle down clearly are full of shit. I think the all time lows in marriages/LTR’s in the younger generation are largely to blame. Everything from the human gestation cycle to long childhoods suggests that we’re social pairing creatures. If we were meant to bang and leave we’d be closer to cats in our gestation cycles and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:28 PM
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We are hardwired to be monogomous. Everything from the human gestation cycle to humans having long childhoods suggests that we are hardwired to pair up. On top of all of that the fact that we crave intimate relationships and feel jealousy proves that that’s something we’re meant to do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:24 PM
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Loneliness rates would suggest that you’re right. As much as the media would like to focus in male loneliness some studies have found that women tend to be more lonely More comprehensive ones find that men and women have pretty much equal rates of loneliness. There’s literally no difference and no, we don’t have a bunch of happy confidently single women out there like a lot of people like to say. So no, hookup culture is not creating a bunch of ‘boss babes’ going out and confidently being single…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:20 PM
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The average man is a 5/10. The average woman is a 5/10. Can’t really swing it any other way there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:45 AM
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I love experiences too but shit, thousands per year on that is excessive especially if they’re not high earners with good 401ks already. Literally thousands per year is enough to retire you if diverted to the stock market instead in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:12 AM
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Option 2. Im on the path of option 1 so far right now and have come to the realization that even if i acheive all of that it would be pretty sad to never try and have a partner, and long term im inviting loneliness as more of my friends get involved in long term relationships. If i had a little more leeway id ditch the 6 kids bit at least though, that’s excessive. If i have any it’s 1-2.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:09 AM
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Misses the point though. Post wasn’t so much pointing out hypocrisy or bashing feminism but more pointing out that despite the focus on men’s loneliness in popular media, women are statistically just as lonely as men and seem to be just as affected by our more lonely, less intimate and social modern world, contrary to what a lot of feminists like to say. If i were to go on i actually blame hookup culture, technology integration growth pains, and our tendency as a generation to prefer fast and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:06 AM
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A lot of feminists point to the talked about “male loneliness” stats and boast that they are doing so much better and even tout it as a victory for feminism. It’s a fun narrative but doesn’t seem true. in reality, loneliness rates are effectively equal across both genders and actually very high and rising. A look at virginity rates too shows that the later in life virginity rates are also close and rising for both men and women with 13% of women 25+ still reporting as virgins and some 14% of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:16 AM
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Studies actually show that loneliness rates are about equal between men and women, and both are pretty high and rising lately. So when you penetrate deeper than the loud ruling narrative it doesn’t seem like women truly are any less lonely than men in this regard and crave companionship more than loud narratives suggest, again at about an equal rate to men. In fact given how staggeringly high it is id even reckon many of the women you’re meeting are just not that vocal about loneliness struggles…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:45 AM
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Old post but no, women don’t seem to be any more happy with this currently relationship phobic culture than men. The vocal bit of it just seems to either be louder or more quiet about that bit with media seeming to focus more on men(probably because they are the more vocal ones. in reality, loneliness rates between men and women are pretty much equal and both on the rise and virginity rates are in a similar narrow disparity and also rising for both genders. The problem definitely isn’t a solo ge…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 10:04 PM
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This "couple" things is NOT what will make us feel any less lonely. As someone with lots of friends i disagree. There’s something about cuddling up with your partner and just knowing you have someone you care about above almost every other person and vice versa that being friends with someone, even really close friends just doesn’t fulfill. I lived with as much as 15 people for years in a house. Some became close friends but mostly, it was family like. We were like a pack. Well, I never cared so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:06 AM
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Id say a long term committed relationship goes beyond primal needs. Marriage and companionship is man made. We are definitely wired to want it but to the complexity that we have it now is definitely not necessaey. It’s just simply put a big part of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:03 AM
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1) No. 2) It’s not so much feeling threatened as much as it is hilarious that people get so much in arms about that instead of, you know, taking that same time to write that tweet to begin taking care of their physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 12:54 AM
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Ive said this before but most women(those you see IRL) are far less concerned with looks than men. It’s a small percentage of women who are super picky in that regard. And they generally are the minority that gravitate towards dating apps. For me ive just noticed the average women ive had be interested in me that ive met in real life is decently more attractive than the average woman i match with on dating apps, definitely to a noticable amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:02 PM
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Reddit bans are pre pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:33 AM
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Im not tbh. Pretty honest. Im 50/50 looks and personality. If the looks are there but we don’t click i lose interest But if we click and the looks aren’t there i also lose interest. Has to be both and im pretty open about it with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:04 AM
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bootstrapping myself to success. Bet this person was given a mommy and daddy loan through college and had a decent-ish place to return to to get a halfway decent job that pays the bills and allows a 401k contribution and considers themselves “self made”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:48 AM
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Just imagine a really skinny girl with no real hips or chest with a face that looks like it could pass for either a man’s face or a woman’s face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:46 AM
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Not personally for me. But im sure it’s some people’s types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:45 AM
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Really? Posting here helped me get started in coming out of a very bad rut.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:43 AM
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Suburbs are a terrible ‘compromise’ lol. The burbs are hardly very nature-y. All the worst bits about city life just with less people, more families, and no night life. So cities but without the only good parts of being in a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:39 AM
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I mean sure not saying it doesn’t happen, 2 of my best friends are from HS. Just saying that it’s not common, ESPECIALLY not from MS. But most of my social circle now is comprised of people ive met in the last 3-4 years or so and not from school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:40 AM
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Definitely not even in their 20’s lol. Most dudes go off to college by then and meet whole new social circles. It’s rare even for entire HS social circles to stu intact through college. Most of the HS social circles even that were present then in my HS are all broken up now. In their 20's many go back to their hometown to work and reconnect with them A lot of people move for their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:30 AM
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vast network that he built up since his days on the middle school lacrosse team. I really doubt very many people have the same social circles in their 20’s and 30’s as they did in middle school lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:54 PM
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Also never called the study stupid. Just said it’s not agreeing with you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:38 PM
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Never said “just as fertile” hence me saying “more or less” but yes, male fertility is still much more reliable at older ages than women’s fertility is. So, Fact remains that bio clocks are not nearly as big of a deal for men than women your own study even notes that. Men can have kids at older ages far more readily than women can and less risk. Henry the 8th He died at 55 and took power at 17 His infertility issues much more likely to do with something other than age given he should have been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:27 PM
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ED is literally fixable with Viagra and similar generics which can be as cheap as like maybe 50-100 bucks. The study also notes “longer time frame for conception”. And even acknowledges that “ emale ovarian reserve is perhaps the most crucial component of a couple’s per cycle fecundity”. Not “you can no longer conceive”. So your study isn’t supporting your narrative A woman in the same boat would be in the “no longer can conceive” boat post meno barring expensive procedures like egg freezing plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:12 PM
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Pro tip; If he owns his own company, makes a ton of money and gets fame on youtube, he doesn’t have a “steady corporate job” and will have more opportunities to cheat. Not really a good example tbh. But yeah not wife’s fault. It’s all his.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:00 PM
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If you’re a woman who has 13-15g’s to float on something like that or good enough insurance to cover then sure. There also still is a bio clock even with IVF. If eggs aren’t frozen(an extra 30-40k and im not sure insurance is an option here) then menopausal eggs simply aren’t viable for IVF, and your time has passed. Frozen eggs must be used. So this is a great option for richer more equipped women but not a paycheck to paycheck less financially advantaged woman or even just a middle class woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:51 PM
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No, they aren’t. Pedophilia isn’t extreme to you? Man what have you seen in life? That’s a huge responsibility and very difficult to achieve if you aren’t even “hanging out” with them I don’t think de stigmatizing therapy and encouraging someone to get it when you notice problematic/antisocial behavior before moving on with your life is that hard. Not like im recommending everyone go out, adopt a socially awkward person and fund their therapy treatment or anything and ensure they go. It’ll be up…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:32 PM
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That’s true but I think looks being a hard factor that can’t be changed at all only applies to a very very small minority of people. Even in incel circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:21 PM
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And that doesnt work, because that would mean they would acknowledge their problems. Yeah i don’t think it’ll be a magic bullet or anything but i think it would be more beneficial then letting them rot in echo chambers. They won’t seek help till they want it you are correct too. Chris Chan He’s rich and (in)famous. That screws with your head and adds a whole extra element. But the weird pedo types pretend they’re just ‘a little quirky’ until they show their true colors and took advantage of ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:20 PM
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Most incels really don’t look that bad. Just being honest. If it weren’t for their poor outlook and bad social skills id bet many could get a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:04 PM
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Well. 1) Sympathy for doesn’t mean you need to date or hang out with them. Those examples are also very extreme and abhorrent for the first 2.(the third i just feel bad for. Not harmful by any means but just kinda sad and weird. Dude needed to get out more.) I’d just express being supportive towards them instead of bullying them and encouraging them to go get therapy before they go out and hurt somebody. Because once that’s done it’s Too late. 2) Those examples are extreme examples. There defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:54 PM
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Looks completely avoidable with good diet/exercise as he aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:42 PM
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I didn’t know 4 billion women only had sex and dated like some 3,000 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:41 PM
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Do you see the difference though? For men it’s they should have kids before 40 For women it’s they can’t have kids once their bio clock is done ticking. I mean morally i agree and past 40 im not sure id even have the energy to be a father but the option is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:57 PM
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Men are only horny because they’re conditioned to be that way. Not like women don’t have sex drives or anything! They’d IMO be just as horny if brought up under similar gender role conditions. And i certainly think they can. If women could organize a gender revolution for themselves there’s really no reason men can’t either. I don’t think in your scenario the women would ever be horny enough to appreciate the 5-7/10s anyway Biased outlook. It’s because women get it all the time so of course they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:18 PM
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It’s simple. Men need to raise their standards. Less men putting out to every woman they see naturally would shift dating standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:55 PM
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The vast majority of women doesn’t see men being ready to fuck anything with a vagina as an advantage or a privilege anyway. It’s rather treated as something unfortunate we have to deal with. This precisely would even things out though. If men were conditioned to raise their standards, and be a bit more level headed with who they go after i think standards across the board would even out a fair bit. You’d have a lot less 5-7/10 women thinking they can get the 9-10/10 dudes if they don’t have sea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:54 PM
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90’s. Not really. The issues really started in ‘09 when internet adoption became more mainstream and mobil devices started getting smarter. Sexlessness is also present among women too. The number of sexless women virgins at later ages has risen to about 13% to male virgin’s 14%. The disparity isn’t even as big as narratives like to state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:51 PM
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Men have a bit more freedom in being able to date a bit younger and don’t have a biological clock, their sperm is more or less just as potent at 60 as 25(not saying 60 year olds should go out and marry super young to have kids, just illustrating a point.) So it’s not quite as important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:48 PM
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Absolutely. Planning an operation here hopefully in less than a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:45 PM
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Has anybody ever rejected someone out of anxiety? Did you regret it later?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:31 AM
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No. So much of that is boring/against what I want. Im an introvert, but i like going to events and seeing people/being around people. I love film. Need a girl to watch movies with. Traveling is super fun so couldn’t handle someone who wants to stay home 24/7. Being selfish and low on empathy in your relationship proves you aren’t ready for one. Just stay single ffs, why do you even want a relationship. Living by herself is fine while we’re still getting to know one another but im eventually goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:06 PM
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For me it’s mostly teenagers that hit on me. I have a baby face and look like 16-20 depending on the day. Almost couldn’t even get alchohol at an event, pre sure the lady there thought my ID was fake lmao. It really sucks tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:59 PM
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Rap died after Tupac did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:19 PM
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I mean i do, not everyone sits in their mom’s basements shitposting on reddit with cheetoh fingers all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:13 PM
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I know some women who would disagree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:10 PM
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Kinda the same as a man have nice arms or a good jawline tho tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:02 PM
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He dated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:38 AM
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Whenever you feel down about your dating life just remember; Even Dahmer had an active dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:28 AM
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For some it could be “up to” 2
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:17 AM
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I mean, half this sub is red pill and the other half is bluepill. Both resent the other gender to some extent and would rather just take every opp to blast them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:36 AM
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Hate what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:17 AM
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I Don’t disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:01 AM
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Look mate again. Please go get some edu and come back. You can’t even stay on topic anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:52 AM
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Still waiting on the answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:41 AM
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It’s the truth 🤷‍♂️ You ever seen a reddit meetup pic before?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:32 AM
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That still wasn’t my question. 😂😂. My dude this isn’t rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:31 AM
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I mean look what’s commonly posted and talked about here at length. Id have a hard time believing very many people at all here are happy and id reckon even less are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:30 AM
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“Is on the clock” Say what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:29 AM
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—>Hot woman —>Happy life —>Posts regularly on PPD. Pick 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:27 AM
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That wasn’t my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:23 AM
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What’s the definition of “hypothesized”? Want you to read that for me here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:16 AM
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You really can’t follow what someone else is saying can you? 😂😂😂. My dude keep up with the conversation. Go back about 3 or 4 posts and ask yourself if i was still engaging with you at all here. Ive clearly stated on several occasions now that i don’t believe you have the competency to be engaging here. “no difference in attachment style exhibits secure attachment style Just thought id correct that again for you since reading comprehension skills seem to be off too. Otherwise im done debating wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:09 AM
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You really don’t. And we’ve been arguing in circles for a bit now with a dash of you using really bad math and stats and twisting words of studies you don’t like. Come back when you get a little More education on these topics, are more open to actual debate and don’t throw out everything that disagrees with your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:02 AM
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You still don’t get it lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:56 AM
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The number of women who actually get into age gap relationships is pretty low. So no I would reject that a lot of it is from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:28 AM
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I took a statistic saying a 5 year age gap has an 18% higher chance of divorc We both know that’s not the mathematical fallacy im talking about here. I took a statistic saying a 5 year age gap has an 18% higher chance of divor Note where i conceded that fact(gasp, actually conceding on a point where you’re just statistically wrong? Go figure!) but still maintained lack of segregated gender groupings and actual ages of partners(were they 20 and 25 year olds? 30 and 35 year olds? Etc.) as potentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:25 AM
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Anyone who says unironically this does not get any dates more likely than not. Probably incels more than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:22 AM
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I’m a mechanical engineer, cum laude from a highly selective school and an 18% increase from a baseline is just that. cough bullshit cough Your post history also claims you’re an early retiree so clearly, no, you are not currently a mechanical engineer and even if i assume the rest is correct, you clearly have not kept practice and refreshed your knowledge in your time since achieving any of this. I mean you literally applied a gross stat among all marriages and a larger sample size to a smaller…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:16 AM
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Id love to see stats on that. Cause otherwise it’s completely possible for someone’s type to change or for the crush they initially rejected to become their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:08 AM
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Who cares. She’s with you now. Stop obsessing over some random dude she maybe thinks about once a in a blue moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:05 AM
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Yes. Why are you with that person otherwise? You’re pretty much single and alone without the true freedom of being single and alone. So single and alone but worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:04 AM
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If she really wanted to still be with that other dude she’d still be with that other dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:59 AM
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Men with self respect don’t care if a woman has had sex before. Men beyond the age of 21 who only date virgins end up sad, single, and alone. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:57 AM
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You’re either not really an engineer or you’re quite a terrible one if you don’t understand basic stats and why applying a broader stat to a smaller more segregated stat doesn’t work. With just the light stats coursework i had to do for my degree i can even point out where your mathematical reasoning went off the rails with stats. Sorry but everyone on reddit who i call out on basic fundamental misunderstanding of a topic seems to be some sort of qualified “engineer” or something of the sort and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:44 AM
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Again. 1) please do research on what a secure attachment style is and means. 2) take a stats class 3) do some research on psychology and the term ‘soft science’. Anything regarding human social relations and the brain is going to be a soft science just naturally due to the drastic differences in each person’s personality. Just because your biases disagree with it doesn’t mean you get to throw it out in entierety. Until you handle those 3 i really don’t think you’re educated enough for this type …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:33 AM
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Its not because the cup isn’t a vagina and my dick is not my tongue and mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:08 AM
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Irrelevant since it has no bearing on whether or not id have sex with someone who’s had sex before. My tounge ain’t my dick and a vagina isn’t a cup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:02 AM
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You didn’t grasp what i said at all did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:00 AM
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Yup could definitely see that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:47 PM
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Oh lawrdy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:47 PM
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Can we seriously stop comparing womens vaginas to cups? It’s very weird my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:46 PM
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Ah you’re one of those ‘the data is bad if it doesn’t agree with my biases’ types.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:44 PM
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It’s almost like women’s vaginas are inherently different than cups? Pretty sure her body flushes that out naturally to begin with plus I’d hope a potential partner has taken at least a handful of showers between now and then. If she hasn’t then im pretty sure i wouldn’t date her for reasons beyond having had sex since she’d probably smell awful given the lack of basic hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:36 PM
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It’s nutritionally poor and caloric rich. So little bits represent a lot of calories and it’s also super easy to eat a lot of it. Could work out for you now while your metabolism is high but odds are you’ll eventually gain lots of weight on this diet as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:33 PM
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Seems like you’re on the ‘improve yourself’ stage then. Very mature and insightful of you to be able to see that and make the decision not to date. It would be a shame for you to never return, that sort of thinking is pretty indicative that you’d make a good partner. Perhaps buckle down, improve yourself to a stable state and come back at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:32 PM
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The tendency for women to throw themselves as serial killers is a better example for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:17 PM
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The second you bring Tate into any conversation you should probably abandon all hope at any rationality anyways. That said im of the firm belief that both genders a probe to equal capabilities of being emotional or logical. Social norms just dictate that one is more allowed to show emotions more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:10 PM
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I just can’t wrap my mind around it. I get the religious bit but even then virgin women would be easier to find in your church circles since waiting till marriage is the norm there, so that shouldn’t be a problem. But being upset that some random dude you don’t even know had sex with your girlfriend years or months ago is such a weird concept to be upset over that I can’t wrap my mind around it. Even worse if the dude’s had sex with other girls before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:07 PM
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That’s rich coming from someone who doesn’t get why you can’t apply broader stats to more smaller demographic limited sample sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:05 PM
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‘Non virgin’ I really don’t get why virginity is something so many men this generation want so badly. It’s not that important and if you’ve over the age of 20 or 21 it’s a really unrealistic deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:59 PM
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My dude you are making exactly zero sense in context of this debate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:49 PM
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Again im going to re iterate here since stats is clearly not your strong suit: Please take a stats class. Your mathematic reasoning is very fundamentally flawed here and it’s clear you don’t get how any of this works. You can’t take a stat that is representative among all marriages or even stats that include a broader range than your initial group and apply it so a stat that is focused within certain demographic limitations. Your numbers are going to be false and skewed. By your logic we can say…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:42 PM
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Duh. That what I’ve been trying to tell you…If a five year gap causes 18% higher divorce rates…yeah, despite “self reports of secure attachment style”, I’m guessing someone wasn’t happy. Please take a stats course. And go review what i stated earlier because in pretty sure me wasting the time to point out the caveat here is just going to lead you to the same mathematically flawed conclusion. Since my data shows in affluent places where women have more choice they choose their own age…..and since…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:31 PM
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Ah you still haven’t figured out why that mathematical reasoning is inherently flawed. That’s not how stats work, and again im really puzzled how you’re coming to this conclusion. Again please take a stats class and learn how sample sizes and gathering data within certain demographics works. Because by your logic, an 18% higher divorce rate should be inherently impossible to begin with when age gap relationships in general among hetero couples only comprise of 15% of ALL marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:23 PM
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I don’t think a lot of folks would donate to a dating apps just because they met their spouse there. Also would be very hard to send effective notifications if they delete the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:19 PM
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I mean I think it’s fairly safe to say that a satisfied marriage is not likely to end in divorce and relationship happiness has been the whole thesis of my point. Unless happy couples are going out and having divorces for fun while smiling at each other now. But i missed the memo on that trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:17 PM
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Fair enough but still awfully broad and not ruling out female younger male older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:15 PM
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Because it’s not the voters that want this. They genuinely believe what the party sells.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:14 PM
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Depends on how old you are. If you’re 18 probably most, if you’re late 20’s-early 30’s and you all have edu’s and good jobs probably not many.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:14 PM
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So it’s subjective when you don’t agree with the data but empirical when you do. Got it. 👍. Ill go confer with Kellyanne Conway on this, she’s an expert on alternative facts afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:11 PM
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I really like that last one. It’s the perfect way of balancing out opposites. They seem to make a great couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:09 PM
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Again, shifting goal posts. Prevalence is not the debate here. so there is no way that the woman older, man younger divorce rate can account for the 18% increase in divorce with a five year gap Ayo? Do you genuinely not understand how numbers work or something? Im genuinely baffled at how fundamentally mathematically flawed this is I don’t even know how to begin lmfao. PLEASE take a stats class before jumping into debates on statistics. EDIT: Plus i included super wide age ranges too and that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:03 PM
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No because the dirvorce statistics do not differentiate the above data. You can keep pounding home broad data that includes the destined to fail age ranges all you want because it agrees with your feels but that isn’t what the facts show when you take a deeper dive. Ive literally shown you where it works out great. You can choose to ignore that all you want but it doesn’t make your point any less wrong. It’s actual statistics. Translation: These numbers agree with my biases more so im going with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:57 PM
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Makes sense, money is one of the most common reasons for divorce and educated/employed folks are more likely to be more financially secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:55 PM
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~50% of marriages end in divorce so probably not as uncommon as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:54 PM
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Studies”<<<<actual statistics. My brother in christ studies are composed of statistics. That “study” you posted only said there was no difference in attachment style No, that secure attachment styles were more prevalent. If you don’t know this you probably shouldn’t be talking on that subject as im not really interested in educating you on what different attachment styles are/mean and already made an attempt up above that you seem to have ignored because it disagrees with your biases. So do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:50 PM
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My dude…age gaps don’t, on the whole, work, when they are more likely to end in divorce….eyeroll. When you include relationships that are super young-super old and make young female older sure! Ive never once disagreed there. But again you’re passing it over with a super broad brush and missing cases like in the studies i posted that focus on smaller age gaps, woman younger, man older. There’s absolutely evidence that shows when you don’t work with extremes(so, no 40 year olds shacking up with 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:45 PM
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Lol….exactly. There is no “evolutionary” preference to large age gaps, lol. Just repeating what the study found my dude. Also yes how we evolved within those cultures could be an influencing factor. Different cultures evolve differently hence different customs and traits. Men prefer younger women, but younger women do not prefer older men. Just posted a study that proves the exact opposite. That when age gap relationships work out it tends to be male older female younger. Want to see marriage ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:36 PM
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Oh sure they would absolutely take 50% of the market... and then promptly lose it as all of their now matched up clientele ditches the app as they found their SO’s within a few years. Only way i could think of it working is if the app had a mechanism in place to keep the couples on the app after partnering up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:29 PM
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Again, still doesn’t separate age ranges. Some of those couples could be 20 year olds marrying 30 year olds while some could be a 45 year old marrying a 22 year old. Not really a great study since age gaps have absolutely been noted to work differently depending on the partner’s respective ages. A 40 year old-20 year old relationship is far less likely to work out when compared to a 50 year old 70 year old relationship or 30-40
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:27 PM
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This is a decade old problem now that’s been developing since about 2009. Even if i wanted to accept that as absolute truth without a source it would be such a minimal non factor here it’s not even funny. Im much more of a fan at pointing at internet/technology and particularly it seeping into commoditizing the dating market more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:10 PM
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You should probably do research into what attachment styles are. Securely attached couples are pretty much synonymous with happy. You can’t be nor will you be securely attached with someone you’re neither close to or not happy with. And in places where women have the most choice of mate? China now flipped the gender dynamic on its head when it comes to age gap relationships. Women have such an inbalance in the marriage marketplace and are now choosing marry to younger men. https://nextshark.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:07 PM
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‘Your eyes are very pretty’ before scurrying out of the store. Had a good impact on me and the only IRL compliment i can remember getting from a woman off the top of my head(got a lot of 7/10 and one 8/10 ratings from women on Yik Yak when that was still a thing at one point. But that didn’t hit as hard)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:48 AM
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Yeah. Why not? Trust is integral in a relationship. If she cheats on me with him she’s just exposing herself as a bad partner. Sooner that’s done the better. Best case scenario he’s an awesome addition to your social circle. Never know when a big ass dude as a friend could come in handy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:42 AM
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Who probably has to then defer to either their boss, the board of directors or non tangible profit margins and investors. Even CEO’s and SBO’s are tied down by something. Only retirees, and NEETs and truly spoiled trust fund kids can get away with absolute freedom. And somehow i don’t think NEET’s and retirees are pulling tons of dates. And there aren’t enough trust fund kids to really make impacts on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:26 AM
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I mean yeah but we’re all pretty mediocre unless you believe social media is real. Even the instagram stars probably spend more time at home than they let on. Put bets that even Musk and Bezos spend non-0 amounts of time scratching their nutsack on the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:24 AM
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That applies to like 80-90% of the population man or woman then and is kinda ridiculous. More if you rule out momma boy/daddy girl NEETs and retirees. Even CEO’s gotta budget their time off to not piss off the board and SBO’s gotta be there or else their whole business may fall apart. Even then anyone with a decent job can put themselves in the financial position to be able to tell their boss “hey you’re granting this PTO or you’re looking for someone new”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:19 AM
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Im trying to figure out what mythical dude the average man has to ask for permission to go somewhere. Like is there some sort of setup where average dudes must report to some alpha male for their lives or something? If so i must’ve missed the signups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:16 AM
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You spoke on another thread though and said you had several relationships before. Your shortest being 4.5 years. You’ve experienced plenty of romantic connections in your lifetime so makes sense that you’re more okay with it. You’re pretty much in the ‘divorced’ category of happy people. But i dont think that will apply to heavy adherents of hookup culture who don’t go out and have long term committed relationships. Unless they turn ship at some point they’re probably more likely to end up unful…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:10 AM
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A lot of this applies to women too though so not sure what you’re getting at. even if he can go somewhere he probably has to ask another man for permission Ive never had to ask ‘another man’ for permission to go somewhere lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:06 AM
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Ive seen how a few of my female friend’s dating lives have gone. And with that i don’t think they all do. So no, not entirely. I do think it is with how much easier it is to get a boyfriend than a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:02 AM
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Laughing at people’s loss porn on /r/wallstreetbets
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:48 AM
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So am i lmao. The banter just became fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:43 AM
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I never said anything about your genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:41 AM
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Sure, after you find a guy who can put up with you enough to have a kid with ya i’ll issue the royal decree. Cause at ‘10 mil+‘, sorry to say but money ain’t the problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:39 AM
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At 22? And you’re still wasting your time on reddit? Lol sure and im the new king of England.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:32 AM
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I mean if you seriously think you’re ever gonna be worth 20 million just because you didn’t have kids or that you even need that much to raise one you kinda are lol. The odds of you or anyone on this sub being a deca millionaire with or without kids is monumentally small. You’re setting yourself up for disappointment pinning too many hopes on that. There’s maybe gonna be 20 of us on this sub that may ever be able to boast that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:29 AM
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I think it’s more what we’ve done with it. Technology when done right can be a great tool to stay connected and theoretically should have brought us closer than ever before. But between how it’s been used by consumers and marketed by producers it’s definitely done the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:27 AM
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I think it’s fine to be promiscuous but be open to relationships with someone one day. Nobody’s saying you gotta have a relationship with everyone you’ve ever had sex with. Just such a huge focus on that over ever connecting with someone on a deeper level is not really productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:25 AM
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I mean unless you particularly enjoy an empty home at 50 or sticking with a bunch of room mates for company at that age i can imagine loneliness can become a huge problem. Plus when you look back, you may end up regretting not even experiencing it. Happiness rates are statistically higher not just among the married but the divorced too! This realization has successfully turned me from “relationships are bad im never gonna date”. Gotta try or die failing!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:23 AM
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I think that’s fair. Black pill’s pretty ridiculous and can easily be disproven with just 5-10 minutes walking in public places. Plus it’s inherently hateful rather than productive. I work in a mallfront store and the amount of ugly dudes with pretty girlfriends ive seen is countless. Enough for me to rule out those guys as irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:20 AM
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Just one unrealistic weird person who probably thinks this society will make her a millionaire if she doesn’t have a kid(spoiler, she probably won’t be, far More than just child birth works against your deca millionaire odds). Don’t need anywhere near that much to adequately raise a kid. Same logic IMO as republicans voting right wing ‘cause capitalism will make me rich.’ That said, there’s still lots of good reasons to not have a kid at 22. Even women still have plenty of time at that age, most…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:18 AM
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That’s anecdotal. Not really convincing on a macro scale. Statistically speaking long term relationships are overall on the decline this generation which is even more evident by the rise in virginity and lack of sex in both genders. All boiling down to this generation being known as the loneliest generation (and it goes beyond just relationships and sex too. We’re far more isolated now than prior generations largely due to technology, but not really as relevant of a discussion for this sub.) It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:04 AM
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And before we talk about correlation= / = causation, there’s very good reason to believe that declining rates of LTR’s are definitely a causation factor in this generation being lonelier and less happy. Interestingly too this goes even for the divorced, so it seems that at least having experienced a close connection could be very fulfilling to someone’s life even if it doesn’t last vs shunning it altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:59 AM
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Sure but where are these people going to instead find the companionship and commitment they’re looking for in a culture that’s largely commitment phobic? That’s where the problem lies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:54 AM
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It wouldn’t bother anyone if it had no ill effects. But that’s just not what we’re seeing. Instead we’re seeing an extreme rise in lots of pretty negative things. Id even argue that many people getting sex without commitment either aren’t truly benefiting from it and/or will eventually really see the adverse effects in 20 or so years when libidos die down and they really see the toll lack of companionship will have in long term happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:52 AM
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You’d have to get more younger people hitched up in LTR’s rather than prioritizing instant gratification and casual sex to begin with first. Problem has less to do with how guys treat their girlfriends and more to do with how younger generations view/fear romance and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:12 AM
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Hot take: Given that anxiety, depression, loneliness, and even women’s virginity and sexlessness are all on the rise for this generation, hookup culture is not really as good a thing for women(or men for that matter) as a lot of feminist camps like to say it is. We did fine for decades with women’s rights making great strides and women gaining more independence without internet dominance and a stronger emphasis on casual relationships over more committed ones. I also don’t think hookup culture i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:46 AM
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here here here (this one’s tracking it since ‘09) it’s even effecting teenagers now A note on late life virginity rates I could go on but pretty much every study on the subject more or less unanimously agrees on this subject. Men are having less sex. I will however note that while men are predominately effected female virginity and sexless is also on the rise too just not at the same rates as males. It’s also VERY fair to note this is predominately in the US and other developed nations. If your …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:17 AM
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Statistics supports the ‘less men having sex than ever before’ camp. So on a purely factual basis, that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:10 AM
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Not necessarily saying you’re from 1990. Just making a note that the study shows significant decline since then, proving my point that folks now are less interested in LTR’s than before. The real dropoff started in ‘08, and the 18-54 age group realistically is going to contain a lot more people who met pre hookup culture, hence me noting the 18-34 age group is better to look at. I'm 36 Which puts you outside my 18-34 age group im focusing more strongly in on that encompasses more adult zoomers. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:50 AM
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the zoomers I know (including my sister) are setting down and marrying WAY earlier Well now i know you’re anecdotal because statistically you are dead wrong here. Marriage rates in the 18-54 age group are down from 67% in 1990 to just 59% today and among younger 18-34 age groups(more accurately encompassing the zoomers) just 30% are married. The stats do not argue in favor with your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:34 AM
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Because you’re speaking from anecdotal experience. One person and the people she’s likely to hang out with/attract does not make a trend. Fact of it is though that the current sexlessness/marriage and relationship decline did not begin to take off until ‘08 and didn’t hit it’s stride till the 2010’s. And clearly you were more open to LTR’s then you say as you eventually met and agreed to marry your husband. Many today wouldn’t even embrace such an opportunity at All.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:14 AM
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Maybe for you personally(again not trying to say it didn’t exist at all back then), but statistically speaking a lot less folks in that time period did that. And general attitudes against longer term commitments wasn’t as common. And on top of that, the apps that made that possible to be amplified to this extent didn’t even exist nor was internet adoption even quite as high during your time. This would be like rejecting the idea that stock markets are more gamified and popular/volatile due to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:35 PM
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That 62% number is outdated. that age range is now only 59% partnered up and it’s been on steady decline since 1990. I anticipate it only to continue to decline all things remaining equal as the hookup culture/loneliest generation ages. It gets even worse when you look at the 18-34 group which is more representative of modern daters who only only have a 30% stat to boast of. Near century long lows for both though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:30 PM
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If you’ve been with each other over a decade then you weren’t around for modern hookup culture, and hell weren’t even around when apps like Tinder seriously took hold. You guys met during a completely different dating generation who was less focused on instant gratification, more accepting of close relationships, and didn’t have the same outlets modern young adults have. And good for you both! Dating’s a whole new toxic ball game now. I sincerely wish i was a young adult during that time period.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:13 PM
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A few problems though, because yes there are some caveats to that. 1) Age gap relationships primarily work the best when the male is the older partner and the woman younger in which case about 74% of these relationships are reported to be satisfied—this is a better stat than the overall divorce rate. Evolutionary speaking, it apparently benefits women more in past times to look for older partners, so a lot of people are just geared for that 2) Yes, there are limits. A 40 year old dating a 20 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:07 PM
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Why would any man or woman want to have sex with a random person who may very well have had sex with someone else the night before, or had multiple hookups in the past year? Easy answer here, not defending it just providing insight; We’ve raised a generation that prioritizes instant gratification over delayed gratification and that is anxious and avoidant of close intimate connections with people, instead liking casual, fast, and sexual ones. And then we went ahead and made it super easy to atta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:53 PM
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When people say lower your standards its in response to people who complain that they cant get a date and that its unfair I think it’s fine to complain you aren’t getting a date with who you want to get a date with as long as your standards are reasonable. It can take some time even with reasonable standards if you’re not taking just anyone even if you’re doing everything right. I mean the issue might not even be their looks, they could be perfectly capable of finding someone in their type range…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:37 PM
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I feel like a lot of people undersell the importance of physical attraction these days. A lot of dating advice i see is instantly either ‘lower your standards’ or ‘don’t care at all about looks when looking for a partner’. Both are pretty bad takes, most people can get a girlfriend without lowering their standards as long as their only attraction isn’t just to insta models, and I think a lot of people who date folks they’re not attracted to miss out on the whole point of a romantic relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:32 PM
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‘A pimp’ I don’t think a pimp is going to have the insights and answers into our modern day dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:28 PM
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Absolutely. And i think dating apps do this on purpose; it keeps you on the app longer and increases the odds you’ll spend money. Otherwise yeah, illusion of choice really fucks with people’s heads this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:43 PM
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Depends on how large your country is. I guarantee you in a large country like the US it’s super easy to re invent yourself. Just going to a new gym across town will associate you with a completely new social circle who has no idea who you used to be if you live in a large enough town. And if you live in a small town then moving to a completely new larger city is an option. Country’s got 300 million people in it. Loads of places to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:43 PM
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Sure but the number of women getting into country clubs is probably a strong minority, would probably be the type of woman to use a dating app(remember not many women do just based on demo breakdowns on dating apps), and probably is in a higher SES class that would be likely to rule out middle class and lower class men anyways. I wouldn’t use them as representative of anywhere near a majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:37 PM
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The hyperlink i linked has an article about it. Only a subset of women who manage to find themselves without meaningful relationships of any kind I think relationships will be an issue for some too. Again friendships and family is great but they don’t give you quite the same companionship as a true relationship can. Speaking from experience on that one. Have great friend+fam relationships but the lack of a romantic one kinda stings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:41 AM
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Yes but friendships and close family ties as great as they are to have just don’t fill the same needs as a romantic relationship. And many that haven’t fulfilled that need to a decent extent may find themselves wanting later in life. i think what separates women and men is testosterone. That’s just the thing though that even supports my thoughts here is women’s sex drives don’t tend to peak and really kick into gear until later in life. I suppose one solution is to make prostitution legal, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:05 AM
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8% of people are in age gap relationships. 🤔 Proving that not only is it uncommon, people don't prefer it. And people don't prefer it because.......it would make them unhappy to be married to someone MUCH older than them. Not really and you’re MASSIVELY shifting goal posts here. We’re debating whether or not age gap couples are happy/happier here not whether or not they are common. That's not an age gap though. 30 vs 40 isnt considered to be an age gap relationships. A 10 year gap would absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:52 AM
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Yeah i was on them for a while pre covid and a bit after with mixed success... but I eventually ended up realizing after likes piled up on tinder that i literally could not swipe on until i paid among other ridiculousness that I realized that these apps don’t really want to help you find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:10 AM
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That definitely does it. But to at least give them some credit i have yet to see one unironically call a woman that to their face... again yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:08 AM
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Yes, they in fact do Particularly when the woman is younger and the man is older where about 74% of all relationships in that category tend to be happy relationships. There are of course caveats though. The larger the age gap grows for instance the less happiness that tends to get reported and of course we’ll see a higher rate of relationship failures(had a study for this but lost it thanks to mobile typing, it agrees with your biases though so don’t feel it’s as important), so a 20 year old dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:04 AM
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Actually no, age gap relationships tend to be happier and last longer surprisingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:27 PM
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I just had this debate with someone else too on another sub who was trying to frame male sexlessness/lack of partnering up as some sort of beacon and positive thing as it’s a sign of female progression/social justice. And i couldn’t disagree more! Women have been liberated and gaining rights for a long time while relationships, companionship, and sex have remained available for both genders. It also should be noted to that while it is slightly smaller of a portion than men, female sexlessness at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:16 PM
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I think that’s fine. But if I too as a man am primarily only really attracted to feminine semi curvy-slim women with long hair then you also can’t really call a man out for only really finding those traits attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:01 PM
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This was back in 2014/15 and we were both 18 at the time, so no. Both young, and before facebook was abandoned by the younger generations. As for the rest i’ve seen it from everything from women ive met in classes randomly as well and ive jumped social circles once or twice in that time frame. Even had one ‘best friend’(have it in quotes because i really doubt she was that to me now.) pursue me for probably 5-6 years very indirectly never once asking me out. She did get kinda sorta direct toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:41 PM
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Can’t say ive experienced that. Every woman who’s ‘made the first move’ with me has kept it incredibly subtle. Most direct ive gotten was a “are we ever gonna hang out/do something?” Over FB. Which i suppose is kinda asking out but still puts the emphasis on me to actually do the asking and make the plan, and is indirect enough for it to be interpreted as literally just hanging out(which is precisely how i interpreted it). So i don’t really count it tbh. I do believe it’s more common than ever b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:24 PM
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Yeah but the thing is when the man does it he will eventually ask the woman out and intends to. The woman does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:46 PM
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Id even argue most are not ugly. Incelfies was filled with above average and average men. Even a few very attractive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:44 PM
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Yeah that’s incel’s main killer imo; their crushingly low self esteem and inability to accept any compliments or positive affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:35 PM
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That’s the thing though. Back when the incels and more specifically the incelfies sub was still around the one thing that struck me the hardest was the sheer amount of above average/average/good looking guys there were identifying this way. Few of them are ugly. I could see very many of them being able to have girlfriends very easily just in the looks department. Looks aren’t really a deciding factor for most incels. Also from my experience, women are far less picky IRL than online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:25 PM
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Saying it’s more common than ever before is pretty moot though when ‘before’ was practically 0. I do agree though that yes it’s for sure larger but it’s not anywhere near a significant majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:21 PM
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Fair enough. Yeah id probably be less likely to do it now. So that’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:20 PM
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You can’t really count all of history though. Through much of the middle ages and ancient times the average life expectancy was like 30, and men were commonly enslaved and sent to brutal wars that led to many of their deaths when they were barely in their teens. No children doesn’t necessarily mean no sex or companionships either. Id be much more interested in that statistic both in the last 10 and 100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:17 PM
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Eh this is kind of bullshit. Ive most certainly done this before. Woman’s friend asked me directly if i liked her friend and in the hear of the moment i said ‘no’. We had been on 2 ‘dates’ by that point and had been talking for about 3 or so months. I really regret doing it too. I was just 18 and never been in that position before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:14 PM
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That’s not really common though. Most women would never be that bold. Most who do ‘make the first move’ would initiate the conversation and leave subtle ques but otherwise leave the actual asking to the man. Seen it on more than one occaision.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:54 PM
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Not really though. A woman’s idea of approaching a dude is walking up and saying hi and sending subtle ques most of the time. That’s not going to be effective for a lot of more rational incels due to lower self esteem, they’re probably more likely to rationalize that away as “oh she’s just being nice.” I think OP means more a very direct approach(i.e. asking them out.), which women don’t really do all that commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:39 PM
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Im of the firm opinion that men need to raise their standards. Would go a long way to helping correct this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:15 AM
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Math dictates then that 6/8 women in this bracket will too though. That’s the funniest part. Short term instant gratification/hopefulness will bite both genders in the ass in the long run. We just haven’t gotten to that part yet with this generation. And by then men will have the advantage since older men can pick up younger women easier. Especially if they’ve been turned down by their own age bracket earlier, why bother later when a younger age bracket is perfectly available and willing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:04 AM
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Do the math for a minute and come back here. If 8 women want the hottest 2 guys and will settle for no less then math dictates that at least 6 of them will leave this outcome unhappy and without anyone in 10 or so years. It’s not so much shaming as much as it’s just so easy to ridicule because of how short sighted and ridiculous they are about it, and it’s not even rocket science! those 2 guys can’t marry them all. I mean fuck man id love a bikini model with giant boobs and a skinny waist, but k…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:00 AM
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I live at home. Ive done my own laundry since i was 13 or so, i do nearly all the cooking, pay a portion of rent, assist with cleaning when need be, and will be attending college in January. Im leveraging my situation to build a crap ton of wealth for someone my age. Not all people who live at home have their parents do everything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:25 AM
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I live in this economy too, in the infamously pricey west coast, at 25, on minimum wage, working 40 hours a week. I have two roommates and I don't even own a car and can't drive but I make it work. Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but no, you’re not making it work. You just don’t see it yet. It will become more evident to you in 20 years or so when it’s probably far too late. You’re paying your bills and are surviving. That’s it. But your 401k is almost certainly paltry if your job eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:41 AM
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