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They were in an exclusive kink/ open relationship. He just didn’t intend for it to be longer i think thats a pretty huge factor you didnt mention in the op. my experience or maybe slight polemics is that the poly community are like 60% insane sociopaths and maladjusts, but if you sign up for that you are signing up for that. i dated around in that scene a bit and there is just a completely different vibe to everything. in that context i can much more imagine that he really didnt think he was muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:29 AM
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I think as the young generations we are also just completely overloaded on that front, because of the economic brutality and insane meritocracy. Basically about 70% of people propably feel like failures because we arent doctors and stem-lords, and if we arent we deserve to be sadistically tortured in our shit-jobs and live in constant anxiety. On some level its propably very hard to relate to this older psychology just because of all that. To be just some ordinary man or woman and still feel all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:18 AM
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I feel thats a bit just taking this impotent minority of manosphere-losers and saying that because their shaming doesnt work, shaming in general doesnt work. I think to understand it well you just got to be a bit self-analytical and just go by what kind of shame does work. Just remember the times you ever went beet-red, felt exposed, humiliated, etc... and then work backwards from that, and identify what happened there, what were you shamed for. I would say we live in an extremely shaming cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:29 AM
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Yeah, I thought about this a good bit when writing, and I am either not sure, or I think it really depends on the guy and the kinds of insecurities. For me its very, very clearly biased towards women. I am your typical high IQ nerd kind of guy. So in that typical male competence hierarchy I am just very secure, nobody ever really challenges me there. But true to type I am also kind of linkish/awkward, so thats where I am very vulnerable, and thats what makes you a typical target for women. For o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:09 AM
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I think the equivalent for a woman is simply when you are very ugly. Its exactly as you said, for women its much more tied to the body, for good and for ill. For men its all about performance. As a woman if you are averagely pretty you just get a certain baseline social worth that you dont drop below. Thats why nothing like this seems ever so truly threatening to you. Michelle Obama doesnt care because she knows she is pretty. If she were actually borderline-ugly then those kinds of attacks migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:47 AM
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Lol, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:35 AM
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I think the main point would be to understand that for women its much more okay and even partially attractive to be weak and vulnerable in all kinds of ways. I think a good way would be to compare e.g. a woman struggling with vaginism or similar to a guy with erectile dysfunction. While I wouldnt at all say its just easy for the woman, its always somewhat shameful when there is something wrong with your body, you can see how if something like that becomes common knowledge about a guy its this co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:39 AM
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yeah, but thats where the "this is all men doing it" becomes valid. the feminist critique is that men are refusing to embrace being properly feminized and thats why we have all this global aggression and violence, both on the macro and the micro. Good feminine answer to these problems would be that we should "help" these rogue regimes to become properly feminized westerners to become part of the shared prosperity of the western matriarchy. Same with the criminals. the problem is we arent funding…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:55 AM
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Because the vast majority of men actively choose to function as this physical safety net rather than a threat, i think thats where your argument leads to undermining itself. if the bad actors are such a minority you dont really need a celebration of masculine strength. you just need a good social code for the majority to succesfully bully the minority of hostile masculinists into submission, but then as the majority we can all be good feminized little pussies who are just nice to each other. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:25 AM
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Agreed 100%. Dumping my reply here for visibility and because its a pretty similar sentiment: often too late. Again, I am a man who wants love, and family is right at the center of that. I have no interest in finding love from a 35 year old woman who has just a couple years of fertility left, at best, and meanwhile she thinks this is actually the peak time of her life to be traveling and other shit that wayward men usually do. These women have romanticized the dark male hero, and they've tried t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:42 AM
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On the one hand, yes, i would say that, with feminism you would run into similar problems that its just so idiosyncratic and contradictory that its very hard to try and argue with it so directly, the way OP does. But then blue pill does go way beyond that, in that its not even some very vague movement like feminism but just "what everybody thinks and says". But as per below, to some degree OP has shaken me up a bit on this. I do think I make a valid point why these discussions are so dysfunction…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:33 AM
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Hmmyeah, okay, maybe you are right. Need to think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:30 PM
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Yeah, but how can you then pretend that this really exists in any coherent form?? The default is just the whole spectrum of oppinions on this. It would include all the spectrum of stuff that here is also considered red pill. Like "Rule 1 and 2. Be attractive. Dont be unattractive" Total mainstream clichee joke. Is that bluepill then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:25 PM
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I think the problem is "blue pill" does not really exist as a real equivalent. Red pill was/is an explicit, self avowed movement, with thought leaders and thus some amount of coherency. Blue pill is by definition just some miasmic set of oppinions out there in the mainstream. So you can never make a proper defense or attack on it. A smart person will always be able to come up with some version of it thats defendable and would lead to good life outcomes. And you cant ever really prove to him that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:19 PM
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This shit is a hobby like self-mutilation is a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:19 AM
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when I would be in the top 10-1% of any metric you put me up against. Except mental health propably, on account of you being on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:11 AM
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i think thats kind of pidgeon-holing critique of the MPDG as somehow coming from primarily this screeching, hypocritical feminist camp. no, i think this is very valid and kind of neutral critique. in general consciousness mpdg exists in the same space as 50 shades or twilight. people dont really complain about mpdg being derided, the same way most women dont see Edward or 50 shades getting derided as somehow anti-feminist or anti-woman. i think a relatively sane, normal person would have an awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:37 PM
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Glad to be of service. But to be fair you are not showing any flair to me either? So I wouldnt necessarily chalk it up to that for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:16 AM
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No, I would agree with /u/Outside_Memory5703 Its hard to prove or argue because this is all miasmic internet stuff, but I too remember it pretty clearly that way. I mean, rereading your comment, I am not sure that there is really disagreement. I guess the point is more tracking the weird discourse sociology of it, and how it really got so big. No doubt that there were all kinds of niche gen-x writers (like the rules of power guy, etc..), that the PUA drew upon. But how it became this internet ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:18 PM
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Men could also be prostitutes for gay men. Why don't they? I actually looked into this once when I was pretty desperate. The guys advertising where all top 5%, either perfectly jacked or angelic twinks. As an average or even above average guy I dont think thats a decision you can just make. You need to be pretty attractive also in the m4m space.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:01 AM
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Closely related to that empath meme, absolute peak meme btw, absolutely on point: "I'm an empath. Sometimes I can tell how people are feeling simply by deciding how I think they feel in my own mind and instantly believing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:30 AM
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How are you in any way purple pill with this view? This is epitome of black pill viepoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:46 AM
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I dont know where you are going with this exactly, but it feels a bit distorting it all to that $10 000 high end. Most prostitution is much more brutal and like $100-150/hr in the west. At that point its a much different proposition, letting some ugly, fat guy slobber all over your body for 100 bucks. I dont think what you seem to be getting at, its all tied to jealousy over outrageous sums of money, is really the case for most prostitution. Most lower class people are somewhat aware that actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:25 PM
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Can you maybe admit that this class background might have a lot to do with the view presented in the OP? "Optimistic upper class boy with a really positive attitude and wants to be a doctor, comes to the loser board and tells them that he isnt like them and neither are his friends" People self-select into bubbles of their type in real life. There is a lot of brutality out there and it leaves its marks on people. Happy, privilieged people like you of course dont want to see or hear about it, or p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:49 PM
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Yeah, I think counterintuitively the word normie does not have to mean most people. The word still totally fits as it just means "well adjusted to the current social norms" But in a time where the social norms are becoming dysfunctional (like, what this sub is very much about) you can have a vast percentage of non-normies, even while there is still an identifiable norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:28 PM
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Idk, My own resolution to all this gender neurosis was "I never had a woman problem, I only ever had a normie problem." I think it would be a useful motto for a lot of men and women on this board alike. And your OP sounds a lot like that. Meaning I can agree that a lot of normie guys are very much like that, but thats your problem: its not guys, its just normies. Personally I can tell you that its a bit comical experience of my life that I had some pretty hot chicks literally throwing themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:32 AM
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I think you can be squarely in that evo-psych world but still explain non-sexual attraction. People are also attracted to each other as friends/tribes members, the motivation being good cooperation. E.g. straight guys are also attracted to each other in straight ways, meaning you like guys that are fun to hang out with or you can talk programming languages constructively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:28 PM
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I wrote women at first but then corrected it. As a tendency you are correct, but not always. There are also sometimes proclaimed redpillers who would claim it for both sides. I mean it might not the be that flattering too, because that can also mean guys who just cant get any and then rationalize it as "I am just protecting my pair bonding." I really dont and never identified with it, but also from my observation here is that redpill stuff really has loosened up a bit. In the beginning it was re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:08 PM
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This isn't something that has a RP canon. It absolutely has. Its the whole "pair bonding" thing that supposedly gets ruined when people fuck around too much. Not saying thats RP consensus, but its totally in the canon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:58 PM
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I honestly dont think the sub is that bad. Maybe i am just desensitized where the riled up, negative people dont work me up that much, but in general i feel its more respectful discussion than not. I also feel this dating/gender discourse has gotten better and more balanced. 10 years ago it was much more all around nasty, and much more men vs. women. I feel the last few years it has kind of leveled out, there is much more women admitting that they also got a loneliness problem, so its much more …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:30 PM
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I think its just very onedimensional take on this "leader" and how much he even exists. In anthropology you had these pretty funny investigations on the "big man" figure, where it was revealed to be basically all about being able to handle maximum annoyance. You retain leadership if you can handle every idiot coming to you with their idiotic family drama and then sighing and go talk to everybody. You have some weird romantic view on this. Not untypical of the sub, ofc, but imho just bs. To be cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:00 PM
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Yeah, but if he is succesfully faking it isnt that the same as being it, if we are talking competence? It sounds like you are talking about men who are succesfully keeping their life together, but then they are expected to keep up this suave "life is easy" facade about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:30 PM
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Man if that doesnt boil it all down succinctly, mad props! Could almost thank OP too for setting you up so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:33 PM
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Man, its amazing. Capitalism is failing and even this sub is getting less insane, I think you can really feel it. Hope is rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:30 PM
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Another great example is women looking for their 'prince dude, no. Thats just some word. Neither men nor women actually want to date a "baby" either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:49 PM
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Most people don't want to date Marxist-Leninists that is luckily changing as this capitalist hellworld breaks down :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:01 PM
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I dont think the "real quickly" is really the issue. Most guys wont mind doing the 3-4 date song and dance or actually prefer that themselves. The typical redpilled complaint is if she is stringing you along for months and its not even clear if there will be sex, while she fucks a certain type of guy fast. I think there is something too this trend, its somehow in the cultural stream, redpill guys are just totally wrong in the way the way they universalize this. Most men and women are, as said, j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:20 PM
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Idk if its so delusional though if the guys also have low N count, everybody has low N count? I mean that actually is how the normie/bluebill model of how anything sex happens. Low N count men and women, both generally too uptight to just have casual sex with just anybody meet that one guy/girl with which they can cross the barrier and then they do it. Nothing mystical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:53 AM
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I think Jamie Dornan is collectively agreed 9/10. Above that for guys is only the typical Ken Doll look if you are into that. I'm not sure what it is. I think its pretty obvious. Guy in OP droopy eyes, Jamie=nice almond eyes, Op Guy=weird egg headshape, jamie=perfect headshape, OP-guy=balding, jamie=perfect hair, etc, etc... Just better facial symetrie by the usual standards. For the record, I totally also think that Op-guy is decent looking, like solid 7, its just not confusing if you are getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:46 PM
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I dont think thats objective, but always subjective. As in: I am a guy and I would say roughly 70% of women are in my impression 5-7. Then 15% really pretty and 15% really ugly people. Some other guy might have different standards and so judge everybody lower or higher. But all in all im am pretty okay with it, as in e.g. I dont fear i wont get a girl that I am happy with lookswise as thats more most of them. Also I think a lot of, or propably more women have a similar judgement. The girls who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:31 PM
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How can you as a person look like you do those things without blatantly posting pics of you doing those things? yeah, thats... what everybody does on okcupid? and /u/tunalunalou said she is doing? The "blatant" sounds like some dissaproval, but its totally normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:22 PM
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No, that guy specifically sounded like redpill clichee a bit, would also help to know how old was that guy? i was more talking guys generally, i think this post here by myexsparamour is pretty good. Propably the most central male vulnerability is ofc erection issues, and you have to get in a frame where you are more like "yeah this is normal, lets just make out" and not "thats ok" with this pitiful look, as she says. https://de.reddit.com/r/sexover30/comments/ao7hpv/erections_a_guide_for_women/ …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:13 PM
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Kind of taken back that I dont see this even once in this thread: But I think in actuality men are similarly neurotic or anxious about sex, a lot are just overplaying it because for men admitting to it is ofc heavily stigmatized, or at least takes you down in the status hierarchy. I am too lazy to write the full text, but I think if you as a women get a grip on this basic fact, the way men are also highly vulnerable but just not rewarded for letting their guard down, and are even psychological m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:00 AM
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Agreed with everything. Just want to add that according to clinical psychology dark triad people mostly do hate themselves and their lives also. I think it might just seem happy because they are often so narcisstic they are always pretending. Its just part of the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:35 PM
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Hey, as I wrote I was stoned at the time of the experience, but I just spent my most sober and utmost literary skills into trying to get the humour across. Also I think the bot is standard and has nothing to do with my post being humour. Its just about containing certain kinds of comments in various threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:47 AM
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I propably should have made that clearer in the OP but I absolutely agree that extreme social constructivists are fucking idiots. The fact is that it is extremely hard to extrapolate from what it is "natural" in a tribal society to what would be "rational" in an advanced civilization. If you look at the human emotional system you find a lot of things that make absolute sense in a small tribe but become totally dysfunctional as soon as you exceed Dunbars number. As such you could postulate that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:18 PM
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Well yeah, I am not trying to hide it, on the other hand expressing it that way was more motivated in trying to make clear why the difference is so fundamentally important, going beyond just some scholastic difference of opinion. Regarding your question, you know that is is asking for a pretty heavy answer so I don't know what you expect me to write here. I am not willing to defend the soviet experiment. It was a failure. But I guess you could make a case that capitalism might not lack behind in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 07:56 AM
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Read some Nietzsche and find likeminded people. What is important is that at this point there are not even "social norms" anymore. As said the culture is breaking down. What matters is that there are people desperately clinging to some leftover code and others who understand what is going on/trying to look forward. Those are the people you should orient yourself towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 12:47 AM
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Social constructedness does not mean that there is no such female or male nature but that the exact way that nature gets shaped in our society is constructed. Think "low level--High-level". To take a common piece of vulgar evo-psych: Woman are better at multi-tasking and social stuff. Now you could take that and think that would mean the entire areas of politics and business should belong in woman hands. But society is constructed in a way that favours a kind of testosterone driven hostility mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 11:48 PM
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Look Dude, I think you need to understand that from a completely "rational" perspective nothing makes sense. Existentialism 101. The only reason people prefer "a good life" over suicide s that evolution somehow programmed them that way. But there is no "rational" reason not to commit suicide. That is why philosophers have such a hard time with "the meaning of life", "purpose", etc... If you try to get to the value of things somehow mathematically you will fail. The only values you will find are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:48 PM
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Hmm, yes okay, if that is what you say that is of course a different picture. But wouldn't this again go against AWALT ? If Redpill claimed it was all and solely about scoring with a small minority of "club sluts", reactions to it would be somewhat different I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:30 PM
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Ok, then what's with all the evopsych stuff ? That is undeniable a staple of RP. What do you found this on if you deny basic psychological methologies ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:25 PM
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Okay, but if that is the way you want to go, you kind of forfeit the right to use any kind of psychological data whatsoever (except maybe MRI's). A lot of psychology is about "icky" stuff that people woundn't admit to in real life. If you don't accept social scientists methods to deal with with this, how can you claim to be all hard science ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:59 PM
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Sorry if I am not clear enough. The brief summary is that the average count appears to be about 6.6 overall, but around 7.5 for women 30+ weho have definititely been through their "wild 20's"/CC period. What, so 7.5 partners by 30 is considered "wild 20's/CC" ? That's like 2-3 LTRs and another 3-5 flings between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:47 PM
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women lie significantly about their counts. There's a strong incentive for them to do so. What part about that isn't logical? Well for one, yes, woman have incentatives to lie in their peer group but not anonymously to social studies. Except you argued that those woman are so afraid to that their "number" gets outed that they would lie to researchers. Which imho is going into fringe territory. Sometimes you dont even have to put your down your name in such surveys. You fill out the questionaire …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:40 PM
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