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and are in the same league as you You all are vastly overestimating how much women want an app to measure anyone's physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:44 AM
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Given that you had no hopes that I got anything from your comment, I assume you know that I didn't need any part of it either...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:35 PM
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That you are welcome to have your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:30 PM
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What are you hoping I get from this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:25 PM
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it’s a decent way to see the looks match for most people. Having pets in your profile actually improves your matches lol. Look, I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. If you learned your elo score, you're welcome to put as much weight into it as you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:13 PM
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Yes, and therefore it's only a measure of attractiveness for people with boring empty profiles. Because the number of things that others find objectionable is massive. Posting a photo of your pets could cut your matches over 10%, just because of how many people have allergies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:53 PM
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That's not really how face blending photos works. They become just average because of the variation in features. And no one ever has to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:43 PM
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lol, OK
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:38 PM

If your profile is normal, then your matches are going to be based largely on how attractive your photos are. To be clear, you're characterizing a person who has kids as having a "not normal" profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:38 PM
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And therefore what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:33 PM
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And again, what would that tell anyone? If the women who look like me are dating a variety of guys with different hair, different skin tones, different body sizes... what am I supposed to learn from the mix of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:32 PM

opposed to the idea that people with an attractive photo get more ‘likes’ on the app What I'm opposed to is the idea that appearance is the only thing that reduces likes. Obviously the people who are liked the most and have the highest elo score are good looking... but they also have nothing else objectionable about them. That would make it a poor measure of physical attractiveness for all but the top people. A lot of people do get uncomfortable with the idea that their suggested profiles on tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:24 PM

Maybe I'm not understanding the function your model would serve in the real world. What kind of information would a person input? What kind of information would the model output?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:18 PM

And no one should care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:09 PM
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Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:07 PM

to predicting relationships forming/breaking. That's not relevant to this post or conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:04 PM

I would guess that elo score correlates with basic-ness just as much as physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:03 PM
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But average = only 2 billion men are into you. That sounds like enough to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:58 PM

I think you're looking at this too narrowly. MANY people have their kids, pets, religions, interests, etc on their profile in ways that alienate a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:51 PM
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But what perspective? The vast majority of women in any medium-sized University or otherwise reasonably diverse metropolitan area of a country with reasonable diversity is going to be highly desired by more men than she'd ever want to date. She will be the preferred type of more guys than she can handle. So why in the world would she care that even 50% of men wouldn't think she's that hot? Obviously she could fall in love with a guy in the 50%, but that could happen to anyone. There is no one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:47 PM

This is useless. If a guy posts that he loves Donald Trump, he's going to get fewer matches and get matched with other women with fewer matches. That says nothing about his physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:40 PM

Would you agree that a woman could have one score in Atlanta and a different score in Salt Lake City?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:36 PM

So are you agreeing that doing it by country would yield different results? Doesn't that invalidate your entire premise that perceptions of attractiveness don't really vary??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:33 PM
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How would that determine who was my equivalent? Are you ranking how many times I've had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:20 PM

I would say the score should approximate (for heterosexual people) which percentage of the gender you’re attracted to would seriously consider you as sex partner. Where? Worldwide? So the beauty queens in Nigeria would be 5's because most of the world prefers lighter skin? Sydney Sweeney would be a 5 because most of Asia doesn't prefer large breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:18 PM

highest feature importance when used to model relationships is the best What? So let's say there's a woman that 99% of men would die to be with. They all think she's the most beautiful sexy woman in the world. But if she doesn't rank highly on other non-physical traits, your model would say she's less physically attractive?? How in the world does that make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:14 PM

Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:09 PM

What would a blend of Timothee Chalomet and Michael B Jordan tell anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:06 PM
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And that's how Jeff Bezos feels about her too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:00 PM

You just sent me a link to how you would objectively rate attractiveness, which is "we would try a few different ways" Photos can be processed into "this is a photo of the person" - all those for a person get handed off to ai to turn into 1 attractiveness rating for the person. We try a few different ways to do this You've got to be kidding me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 09:00 PM
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Do you think all men find Lauren Sanchez (Jeff Bezo's wife) highly attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:53 PM
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Is that what you see in the real world? All men agree on who is the most attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:45 PM

OK, so how does this work? give you an archetype of your looksmatch based on other people's couples Let's say an incredibly attractive woman puts her photo in. Women like her are dating men who looks like Timothee Chalomet and men who look like Michael B Jordan. The AI spits out a photo that blends them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:44 PM

Prioritized how though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:42 PM
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So every woman would attract every other man the same amount, yes? Is that what you see in the real world? All men agree on who is the most attractive? All men would be equally interested in each woman, high or low? That's not what I see at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:36 PM

But the AI ranks people first. an AI that rates all men objectively 0-10, and all women objective 0-10, and then kind of matches
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:35 PM
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Looks as in attractiveness? How does that work in the real world? I genuinely don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:33 PM

How would that show that Becky is more attractive than Sally?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:30 PM
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I'm trying to understand your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:29 PM
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So someone of one attractiveness level could get the same amount of attention in every place in the world? But another person may get a lot of attention in one country, and little attention in another country?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:24 PM
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But would the attractive women each get the same amount of attention everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:20 PM

Irrelevant to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:15 PM

Are you unable to understand the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:13 PM
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Why would anyone use those forums to complain about the politics of men on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:10 PM

Let's say a group of 10 healthy young women go on a trip to Sweden, Nigeria, India, China, and Brazil. Will the same woman get the most romantic attention in every country?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:06 PM

an AI that rates all men objectively 0-10, and all women objective 0-10 Objectively based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:54 PM
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But if the pattern is "women like dating men with good qualities," it makes the entire "chad" thing pretty meaningless... Like, opposed to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:31 PM
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And BBs are the men with money, or the men who are invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:25 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:53 PM
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Your later source says that only 14% of men between 25 and 34 were sexually inactive. You really think that it's 30% for men as a whole? Smaller absolute increases in sexual inactivity were observed among those aged 25 to 34 years for both men (7.0% vs 14.1%; aOR for trend, 1.23; 95% CI, 1.07-1.42)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:20 PM
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Could you link the GSS data? Nothing I'm finding confirms your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:15 PM
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You are advocating for more unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:50 PM
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You're claiming the General Survey say that 30% of US men had no sexual activity in the previous year?? Or just a specific age group?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:48 PM
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Only the top 10-20% of men are desired by women. Lol, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:01 PM
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30% men had no sex in the last year in the US. Which study says that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:59 PM
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What if? How do you decide that a minority of people being unhappy is worse than the majority of people being unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:35 PM
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Then why would any woman ever go on a single date with, much less marry, a beta buck if his stability/good traits don't outweigh his bad traits??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:33 PM
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To whom? When a guy asks me out that I do like, I have to turn him down, depriving us both of a fulfilling relationship that would make us both happy. Man 1- hurt Woman- hurt Man 2- hurt a lot Why is the above better than: Man 1- hurt a lot but has opportunity to find woman who loves him Woman- happy Man 2- happy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:23 PM
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But then it's meaningless. "Women only want Chad" = "Women want to date the guys they want to date" "Women only want Chad" = "Women are into a wide variety of guys with different combinations of qualities"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:19 PM
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If I dated a man I didn't like, found unattractive, and obviously hated having sex with the few times a year I did it... do you think that would be hurtful to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:11 PM
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I'm just trying to figure out who Chad is! Sometimes he has to be rich and tall. Sometimes he's just tall or just rich. But other times a rich guy who isn't tall is a "beta buck." I think red pill people change the rules for Chad more often than women ever could...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:01 PM
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I thought it was their feelings that mattered? A study using brain MRI found that rejection triggers the same parts of the brain as physical pain. You have talked about how horribly painful rejection is, and how it shouldn't happen to people who haven't done something to deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:58 PM
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I'm not following. Rejecting people for something they didn't choose is kicking them in the balls, *according to you. No one chooses to be 90 years an old. No one chooses for you to have a girlfriend. So why do they deserve you doing such a horrible thing to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:54 PM
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But how do decide when a short rich guy is a Chad or a beta buck?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:50 PM
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You would kick these women in the balls??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:49 PM
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So you don't care what words mean AND don't know what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:36 PM
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So if a 90 year-old woman asked you out, you would say yes? If you were already in a relationship, and a woman asked you out (not knowing you were single), what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:33 PM
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Why won't you answer the questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:25 PM
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But can a 5'8" man be a Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:20 PM
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I do like men. I also like lesbians. I generally like people. I'm just sexually attracted to very few of them. Men who divide people by genitals do not like people. They just like holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:18 PM
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WOW
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:06 PM
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But which of those is the Chad, and which is the "buck?" Red pillers have literally been saying that she makes rules for the beta bucks and breaks them for Chad since like forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:03 PM
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Maybe this is why you don't know what the point of the post is. You should try rereading it. You've already announced that you didn't mean what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:02 PM
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As I've already stated, I know many people who have that as a rule when dating, men and women. A lot of people never date anyone with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:01 PM
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And therefore? What does it mean in the context of this conversation? Rejection is also unprovoked when the suitor didn't do anything wrong to deserve it Does a gay man "deserve" to be rejected? Does a woman you find repulsive "deserve" to be rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:00 PM
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I don't know what the point of the post is. There is nothing to debate about the fact that people don't get everything they "want" or prefer in romantic partners. Life isn't a Disney movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:52 PM
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Will women date a hot guy even if he's broke? Will women date a rich guy even if he's 5'10"? Which one is Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:45 PM
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If having a rule against dating single moms makes someone a robot, this sub must be the robot factory...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:44 PM
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I know a lot of men and women who have rules for dating. "No more people who already have kids" "No one who is getting divorced, but hasn't filed yet"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:32 PM
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You want people to debate a position you don't mean in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:27 PM
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All the stuff women say about wanting Not a rule to begin with...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:24 PM
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Getting asked out by someone you're not into is getting asked out by someone you're not into. Their genitals don't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:22 PM
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How do men treat the gays?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:14 PM
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able to tell if he is an asshole or not, and should have left if he was an asshole, But she still dated the asshole. OP's post isn't just about women who spend their lives with assholes or marry assholes. It's also about women who may spend a month dating a guy, realizes he's an asshole after she gets more info, LEAVES the asshole... and complains that she's been through thus experience repeatedly because it's annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:57 AM
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You can tell from how they act, the company they keep, and their lifestyle. That's the their entire point. By the time a woman has met a guy's friends, she's already spent a decent amount of time with him. But OP says that her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:08 AM
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And therefore? Don't complain about getting E. coli?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:05 AM
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I'm not following. We agree that the buffet is all the men, yes? That's the metaphor? The dating market for women is like an all-you-can-eat buffet with hundreds of gourmet dishes. There are obviously some terribly unsafe dishes at this buffet. Women have literally died from eating the wrong thing at this buffet! Obviously the buffet has a terrible health rating! So you expect women to heed the warning and not eat/date men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:21 AM
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Ah, because so many people warn that it's just not worth it to date men at all (eat at the buffet), you're not going to care about the complaints of people who risk dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:13 AM
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It is not at all obvious how you notice the "subtle mannerisms" of men on dates with women, when you are neither the man or the woman on he date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:45 PM
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And your role in these first few dates is...? In what capacity are you attending these dates and making your assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:41 PM
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And I have noticed a toupee on a first date. I don't know that I've always been right about the toupee. I don't know that I've pointed out all the toupees. Why are you sure you've always been right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:37 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:33 PM
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Those are situations when someone abusive is obviously abusive. They do not demonstrate that it is obvious to you when men are abusive. If someone says "It's obvious to me when men are wearing hairpieces, because they look bad," it doesn't mean that toupees are obvious to that person... it just means they can recognize a bad toupee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:33 PM
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I was approached a lot in my 20s. I would not have wanted to date most of the guys under any circumstances. More importantly, I did not want to date anyone who cold approached me, so I always declined. The majority of the attractive normal-seeming guys were rude about being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:28 PM
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It’s pretty obvious to me when a guy is a player / abusive etc. How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:23 PM
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Why aren't people allowed to complain about getting food poisoning from the buffet?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:12 PM
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How do men treat the gays?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:25 PM
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Of course you don't know what to tell me... There's no way to explain that you should get to say one thing but get to expect everyone interpret it as a different thing that you never said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:22 PM
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To "hold someone accountable" is to do something! That's what it means! Make someone take responsibility and face consequences. majority of my post is saying “women need to be held accountable for fucked yo things they are saying” Your post does not do this AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:15 PM
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Bro, YOU are the one trying to prove that something is in the post. In your post, you do not say a single solitary thing about what should happen to any woman who says any of these things. You do not reference accountability for them in ANY way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:05 PM
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The excuse FOR THE ACTION is not valid = the person WHO COMMITTED THE ACTION should be held accountable. If a lawyer says their client is not guilty by reason of insanity, the jury can disagree decide the excuse is invalid. That means the suspect goes to jail NOT THE LAWYER.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:02 PM
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Women say these things =/= women should be held accountable for saying these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:57 PM
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...what do you imagine that means in relation to accountability?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:53 PM
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lol, how is it unfair of me to have an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:52 PM
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You can't be serious? "I see a trend" has absolutely nothing to do with accountability. If I post, "I see a trend of men wearing sports jerseys," you assuming I'm demanding men be called out for wearing jerseys? You are being completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:50 PM
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majority of my post is saying “women need to be held accountable for fucked yo things they are saying” No part of your post says that. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:45 PM
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You made a post about using oppression to avoid accountability for actions... except the people referencing oppression are not accountable for the actions (they did not commit them). You now claim that your post is about avoiding accountability for those words, and not the original actions. You are misrepresenting your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:42 PM
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Zero parts of your post are about holding women accountable for saying things or women using oppression to avoid accountability for saying things. None of your post is about accountability for "Woman B." All of your post is about excusing women for doing bad things, like physical abuse by "Woman A."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:31 PM
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Your claiming that woman B is saying, "it's OK that I said a shitty thing online and I should not be held accountable for what I said online, because men set that system up?" Because that is not represented by your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:18 PM
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But that does not match your post: Women using oppression as power and a shield from accountability Oppression is not being used as a shield from accountability for saying something shitty online.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:13 PM
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Also in my post You are proving my point. Your post is about woman A using oppression to excuse behavior of woman B. Woman B is accountable for woman B's behavior. But your comments are all about how woman A needs to be held accountable for her excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:58 PM
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Not for the actions. Bob is not accountable for Joe raping someone just because Bob said something stupid after the fact. You post and your comments are about different things. One is about accountability for actions, the other is about accountability for words. Your post: Oppression is being used an excuse to avoid accountability for bad behavior. Not your post: People should be held accountable for using oppression to excuse for bad behavior. People are trying to understand and engage with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:46 PM
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Your premise doesn't make sense to me. Women using oppression as power and a shield from accountability Your examples are third-party discussions of other women's actions. I don't think they should be held accountable for these actions unless they committed them. It's like if I said, "Bob is trying to shield from being held accountable for Joe raping Sally!" Bob shouldn't be held accountable for Joe's actions at all. Bob doesn't need an excuse for Joe's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:33 PM
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Trying to understand your position is not engaging with you/it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:16 PM
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It is incredibly weird that you are framing completely normal questions about your post as invalidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:10 PM
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In the post? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:03 PM
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The wording was: "in what way are they TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:01 PM
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As an example, making fun of men being raped in prison is so common in the US. Feminist women are the people I see doing it the least of anyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:58 PM
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Not in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:56 PM
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In my opinion, you should spend some time considering what you actually want to discuss, and then make a post specifically about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:51 PM
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Either you don't understand what an "experience" is, don't understand what accepting an experience means, don't understand what invalidating an experience means... ...or you're not here for an actual discussion and just want to complain about a bunch or random stuff under he guise of having a real conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:24 PM
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You specifically provided that scenario as an example of invalidating experience... You: is it significant enough to invalidate one's experience? Me: Meaning what, in this context? You: your "impossible" scenario You now... This is not invalidating experience. OK bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:06 PM
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That has nothing to do "accepting other people's experiences." It's fine to object to people being insulting and rude. It's unreasonable to characterize debating any ridiculous position just because it was informed by a real experience. That is NOT INVALIDATING EXPERIENCES.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:45 PM
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is it significant enough to invalidate one's experience? Meaning what, in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:05 PM
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convienve me that this is not real issue exaggerated from internet rage baits. Why not trust me that I experience being rejected and made fun of this? I don't see people deny the discrete experiences of being rejected or mocked for being short. I see people deny the idea that it's impossible for short men to date or that women never date short guys, because it's false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:05 AM
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You are conflating "experiences" with "frustrations," "opinions," and "views." We are shaped into what we are by our experiences. A lot of blue pill flair people here tend to ignore this aspect completely. It's a debate sub. If I say "all men are violent," providing evidence of the alternative isn't "ignoring" the fact that I've been assaulted by men. You assume that views that you disagree with are just online believes that manifested out of nowhere No clue why you think that. I feel like almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:32 AM
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I wanna know about women back then who actually were able to achieve a contemporary lifestyle without disguising themselves as men or There are a ton of examples of women breaking barriers and leading amazing lives... legally they actually could do whatever the fuck they wanted as an individual just like men could ...but none of them had the same legal rights as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:17 AM
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Are you talking about situations where advice was solicited? Or unsolicited advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:46 PM
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All the differences are apples to oranges. You probably don't want to fuck your mom, and it isn't just because she's not your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:24 PM
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But you are excited about eating Roseanne Barr's pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:00 PM
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But there are measurable differences between all different kind of people. Being hit on by Roseanne Barr would have been measurably different than being hit on by the Queen of England. Woman 1 that you're not attracted to is different from Woman 2 that you're not attracted to is different from Man 1 that you're not attracted to. It's just a bunch of people you're not attracted to, who are all different from each other...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:44 PM
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Let's say your mom or sister hit on you. You would have the same chemical reaction in your brain as if it were Sydney Sweeney?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:11 PM
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He told us what he meant. More options = advantage. Period. If you're looking for casual sex or a relationship, having more options is always going to yield better outcomes than less. MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN LESS His point is that more options are ALWAYS better than LESS. I don't disagree that more options are sometimes better than less, like the situation you are discussing. But that wasn't the point he made. His point is refuted if there is even a SINGLE situation where more is worse than l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:09 PM
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A heterosexual situation? What makes it sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:02 PM

Weird reason to neglect your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:00 PM
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Explain to me the difference between these two: Roseanne Barr hits on you. A gay guy hits on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:27 AM
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We're confused that you're confused. If 1000 Roseanne Barrs hit on you, you wouldn't think, "OMG, I have so many advantages in dating!" If you do find it flattering to have a bunch of people you aren't attracted to hitting on you, you can have it, on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:19 AM
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Are men sexually attracted to every woman? If Roseanne Barr walked in the room, you'd be attracted to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:04 AM
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Is that what men want? To sleep with 2 billion people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:00 AM
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All of my divorced friends co-parent. No one is solo-parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:17 PM
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What does that have to do with dads not being in their kids lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:16 PM
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"Option" meaning what? "Love" meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:32 PM
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How do men treat gays?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:13 PM
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a top comment saying that having more options is ALWAYS an advantage (compared to men having almost no options at all) Nope, that wasn't the comparison in the top level comment or my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:52 PM
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Fathers can't be neglectful! I wonder why there are so many single moms? 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:46 PM
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Unnecessary friction... like taking their kid to their doctors appointments?? Literally what the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:23 PM
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And you compare it to having no options at all What are you referring to??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:13 PM
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That's the thing with personal experience... it's had by a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:51 PM
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That's your sexuality. Different sexuality is not different in attraction We know it's not an option, but are you attracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:34 PM
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...how do men treat gays?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:26 AM
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It's a stupid concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:56 AM
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What 80/20 rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:53 AM
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What did I say that relates to 80/20?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:51 AM
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Why wouldn't I consider unattractive men as people? I consider women to be people. I like and respect many people that I am not attracted to, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:44 AM
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What about my comment suggests anything about 20/80 to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:33 AM
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that women consider unattractive men as people, etc. ...what else would I think of them as??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:30 AM
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This literally confirms that women experience exactly the same emotions and disgust towards male sexuality as heterosexuals do towards homosexuals in a romantic and sexual sense I feel exactly the same way about men I'm not attracted to as women I'm not attracted to. Of course I don't have any particular "disgust" towards homosexuals... that would be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:20 AM
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I find that if I actually said something, no one needs to make "other words" for what I said... It's a funny thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:40 AM
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We're discussing the difference between doing nothing and doing something bad. Being part of something bad is not doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:20 AM
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An extra step?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:53 AM
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I haven't heard that. I've only heard the belief that people who are part of systems of oppression and inequality without fighting them are racist, Nazi, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:28 AM
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Doing nothing is doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:19 AM
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Nope. There's a difference between doing a bad thing to a person and doing nothing to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:14 AM
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men took away some of your innate right/desire Say ability to get a child Meaning what? Men forcibly sterilized her against her will? Or no men chose to impregnate her? Those are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:10 AM
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So you expect childless men not to be good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:57 AM
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So, you expect men to be good caring people, whether they have sex or not...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:54 AM
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But you say a woman caring for her kids is good and caring, yes? A man caring for his kids is good and caring, yes? Should we not expect men to care for their kids??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:51 AM
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are a legal citizen(aka non rule breaking) So are you saying that women expect men to follow the law, but men don't expect other men to follow the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:46 AM
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What do you mean by empathetic/caring/kind/good to people? What does that look like to you in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:39 AM
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Would you say that you find men sexually attractive... but that you have decided they are not an option for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:36 AM
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But your assumption is that the ratio of rotten to non-rotten fish is always consistent. It is not. In my experience and observation, women who get A LOT of attention get disproportionately more negative attention than positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:18 AM
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I said that my dating life is better. The same way reading my email is better when I get less spam.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:51 PM
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Why do I "suck at vetting," if you agree that the messages I'm referring to are spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:42 PM
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So which is it? I "suck at vetting" because I didn't like getting messages that you acknowledge were spam? Or "it didn't take much time at all," so I don't get to be happy that I receive less spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:32 PM
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When I made my first online dating profile, it was before matching. My inbox was full of messages before I completed my profile or added a photo. There were messages from men explicitly incompatible with me. Their profiles said they were not attracted to women with short hair... I had short hair. Their profiles said they were looking for a woman ti have their kids... I was child-free. Why are the messages from these men "options" instead of spam?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:22 PM
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I wouldn't assume that most women do much to appeal to greater quantities of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:17 PM
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...do you think every man who has messaged me on a dating app has loved me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:14 PM
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Sounds like only one of us has had experience with both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:12 PM
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It's annoying to get spam and robocalls even if you delete them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:09 PM
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I'm sure you'd have been just ecstatic had your options been close to zero for the entirety of your 20's lol, my options aren't close to zero. You aren't claiming that more is always better than "close to zero." You are claiming that more is always better than less. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:05 PM
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I'm a mid-40s woman who received waaay more attention from options in my 20s... ...and it actually really sucked. My dating life is a lot better now that I'm older (and even fatter and grayer), because there's a lot less noise and bad experiences with guys who became aggressive when I rejected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:55 PM
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So you can't gauge the frequency of age gap relationships solely off of marriage stats But that isn't taking marriage stats at "face value" to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:57 PM
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Per your edit, you're saying we should doubt marriage stats? We should think there are secret marriages excluded from the stats??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:45 PM
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But what stats are you saying his position is about? His main argument is that "given that large age gap relationships are stigmatised / taboo, we must doubt the official statistic that state they are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:44 PM
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we can't take official stats on this at face value What official stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:40 PM
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How does one situation prove there's a "significant proportion" of anything? That's completely irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:03 AM
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It's almost like getting to know a stranger is different than being their partner... Interviewing is not the same as the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:46 PM

Could you explain how you are measuring any of this? You mention dresses as an example of normative femininity. Women used to wear dresses virtually 100% of the time. Let's say women wear dresses 60% of the time now (a completely made up number). Why don't you think that counts as breaking away from normative femininity?? An I only breaking away from normative femininity if I wear dresses zero percent of the time? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:20 PM
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typical dating advice for women For example, what r/femaledatingstrategy used to be. You are wrong about what dating advice is typical. The majority of dating advice for women is about avoiding being raped or mistreated. You're basically saying that anyone told to lock their door at night or not to leave valuables in their vehicle is obviously "entitled."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:17 PM
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Are you saying I believe the person I'm asking would say "yes?" Or that I personally believe one is true... but I need to ask the other person which one it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:20 PM
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What in the world suggests that I think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:51 PM
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I think you are confused about what questions are...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:54 PM
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Nope, I did not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:44 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:35 PM
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Therefore...? Not getting your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:16 PM
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Men are assaulted by men at higher rates than women. Do men not know what to look for? Or do they ignore their evolutionary responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:07 PM
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Most dating relationship violence happens with close ties; men women already know. What are you trying to say here? That it's more dangerous to date a man you know than a stranger? Or that a 5th date with any man is more dangerous than the 1st date? a man with a document history of domestic violence would be easy to background check. You're trying to say that men with criminal records have criminal records?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:59 PM
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So, when you ask "I'm just curious if women are aware of this?" ...you're asking if random women on the internet are aware of your personal anecdotal experiences and the conclusions you've drawn from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:48 PM
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For example, what if I said "I love women?" Love meaning what? Women meaning who? Do you mean you want to fuck the women you're attracted to? Or do you mean that you're willing to make sacrifices for the wellbeing of women of all ages and appearances that you would NOT make for men or boys? Are you volunteering at the old-folks home to spoon feed 90 year-old widows?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:09 PM
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