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My point is that feminism ironically adopted male assumptions of just makingmoney, and that is why it despises the very fundamental feminist qualities, not just motherhood, but even being a housewive or choosing to marry younger, even when it works for many women. Feminity has value by itself. Woman don't need to work for a boss to feel valuable, she is valuable by her own right. Being dependant on a boss or government is also not much better than just not working and rising your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:21 PM
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While always feeling guilty of being a burden and ashamed of being lesser than men. No, I said that women live in a comfort bubble made by civilization made and kept mainly by men, but men would not exist without being born from women in the first place. I am not trying to put down women but women do often despise and put down men, which is very unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:17 PM
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"I mean, that is a good thing. I would love for the collective of women to care for my lazy ass. It is our turn." ??? I want women to have a more fundamental role in civilization rather than just motherhood or caring, why is that bad? Even if you only value women for their womb, you definitely should value that a lot more than you are doing now. I'm just saying that womb and fertility is what gives women the most advantage. Men use their physical advantages and are proud if that, I wonder why fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:13 PM
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I'd say spending is better for society but worse for individual. Saving is better for individual but worse for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 09:11 PM
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They were valuable before the modern era because even small children were labor. They forced children to work on farms, in coal mines, and in factories for pennies… and “society” didn’t much care if poor children died in the process. Agreed, but that is the cultural view and they had no point of reference. Also we can only let teens do nothing for years because we have tech and automation, not because we are good or moral. If SHTF, and we lose tech and return to mostly manual jobs, that changes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:55 PM
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Why would a male birth pill be needed if only 20% of the top men around the world are sexually desired by women, according to the red pillers and black pillers? Because many women eventually want a baby more than they want to have chad, and chad is not stupid to have a child with them. Sadly women will probably resent their beta husband and children later, but at least they had their baby fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:52 PM
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Most men average seven sexual partners in a lifetime and again 70% are regularly sexually active, more than 80% irregularly sexually active but still monthly. Sure, but the changes we are seeing now on generations may break that trend. Averages usually hide the trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:27 PM
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I'm not saying women are useless. Ironically women are wonderful for babies and raising them, and yet they convinced themselves that sucks and it is evil and it oppresses women or shit like that... as if it was not needed for the species to survive. No man tried to say women that being a mother is useless. No man tried to say that caring for the house and family before a job was better. It was women themselves that told each other that, so it is their problem that the best and most important thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:50 PM
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IDK, in this world even boredom itself can be considered suffering. That says a lot about our expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:28 PM
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In our current economic system, women giving birth has negative value. Women are punished with the costs of pregnancy and childrearing, with little to no compensation, depending on her economic status. This is right, and I think this is the biggest change we ever had and women are affected the most, and population at the long run. That is why in the Bible and ancient texts usually children are welcome, since children were MONEY, they were labor, care for the elder, workers, taxpayers, etc. Today…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:26 PM
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The idea that a guy can just flip a switch in his brain and undue years of conditioning and bad habits and dicking around and rise like a phoenix from the ashes, and have a family at 50 is the biggest lie TRP ever sold. You actually have a good point there. I'd say it is not likely, but possible. Sometimes just a dose of lithium can fix these men, they are often just depressed or nihilistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:02 PM
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Sure, as the last option. If lucky they don't have to rise another man's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:53 PM
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I'd say most leftover men just live in their parent's house and just are lazy. Even mentally challenged people can get a job and earn something, but most of those men are OK with videogames, porn, some food and living with their parents. Honestly, if you are comfortable with little, what is the point of a low wage job anyway? Kill time? Meanwhile, what are leftover women? It seems more women that do not have a family, studied something but never were good working at it and ended up spending more…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:49 PM
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What a word vomit. OP, sort out your thoughts and come back with something more coherent than this. We believe in you. You are right, I did not digest it better. My point is that men can do a more wide range of jobs than women, and are more willing to do them than women, so even leftover men can find a useful job while women often restrict themselves to jobs in office or fight for positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:40 PM
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Women provide more free social labor than men. Meaning that women are more likely to provide free child care, free elderly care, free ailing relative care, as well as volunteer compared to men. That is true, I cannot deny that. Women provide social safety net support that would cause society to collapse if they didn't. Most of the invisible labor that women provide, is necessary for society to function. Essential? Yes. Fundamental? I would say no. Those jobs only make sense if you have a stable …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:59 PM
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The thing no one expected, not even 20 years ago, was that AI would be replacing office just BEFORE manual jobs. Imagine a world where all office jobs are automated and we all have to fight for the few manual jobs left that will be slowly being taken by robots. We need a deep change of system to face what is coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:57 PM
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I'm a business analyst for a SaaS consultancy, and it's incredibly difficult to get buy-in from male users in their 40s, Maybe men are wise enough to not buy your shitty SaaS scam services.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:56 PM
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Agreed, I hope my company had it, it doesn't. Regardless it is important, but I suspect that fiat money will not be as valuable as we expect in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:55 PM
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I'd say both are equally important. People rarely have sex for procreation, and sex as recreation literally moves millions of men to do shitty jobs and hard work just to get pussy. Their horniness moves civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:54 PM
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I do because my view is more accurate, not tinted by women's manipulation or horniness of hetero men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:53 PM
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Men have cared for civilization since ever, defending women and children from wars and nature, and feeding them. It is time for women to take care of men as a collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:50 PM
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I'm not talking about me, no need to make it personal. In a sense you trying to make it personal suggest you are trying to defend your position, maybe you are not so convinced of your idea after all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:47 PM
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Electricians are way more useful and productive to society than some gender studies academic Heck, even installing toilets is more useful than that. I mean, we need hygienic place to be able to circlejerk about gender and ideas that contribute zero to this world, but actually cost us money and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:46 PM
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Doing nothing is still more useful than to pay taxes for single moms with STDs rising criminals, indeed, money for wars that have nothing to do with us, women with huge student debt in useless degrees, etc. They are contributing by not keeping running a system that should die ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:28 PM
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Those men don't have much to offer to society, but also they don't take much from it either. They usually are not a threat. Our value is not established by how much we contribute to society, in fact some of the most important people in history precisely are important because they pointed out how shitty their society was. Not to mention that society often created that generation of men and women that don't want to work or contribute, so it can blame itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:25 PM
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That made sense like 40 years ago but actually crime is going down. Porn is keeping men quiet, no need to be violent if you can get an orgasm so easily. Women moving papers in offices is one of the jobs being automated the fastest. After telling men that blue collar jobs will be obsolete thanks to AI, those same spreadsheet people find themselves being replaced by AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:23 PM
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Soon we all will have no option but work until death. The sooner we realize it the better we can prepare for the demographic collapse and economic depression it will cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:21 PM
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What better and more useful skills does the average man have that the average woman does not? On the basics? Changing oil, fixing a pipe, etc. On finances? Men don't spend so much money on makeup and men are less likely to be on debt. They are more likely to make and build wealth at any age. Men are also fertile longer, so they have the flexibility to be fathers at almost any age. Still, that does not mean women are not useful on other aspects, and honestly that view is toxic, but economically s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:49 PM
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https://time.com/179/men-are-obsolete/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:45 PM
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Leftover men may add value to society, but in the mating game, women have determined they aren’t worthy of sex and reproducing with. Sure, SMV is different from Economic value. I never said otherwise. Just pointing out the gender dynamic in job market and shifts on professionalism, as many journalists are saying that men are useless or less useful, but that is not true. The sexual dynamic is different, and in a sense sometimes even criminals and borderline homeless men have more sexual success a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:45 PM
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People who claim that men are obsolete or they are being replaced or shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:43 PM
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I mean, that is a good thing. I would love for the collective of women to care for my lazy ass. It is our turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:31 PM
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Agreed, and I think many men and women are realizing this. In fact, it seems women pointed it out first and men slowly are adopting that view. I think this is what happened after Rome fell, they seem to have adopted that view. Christians realized that it made no sense to keep Rome running, it made more sense to make their own villages and smaller cities where they have a more significant position, so Rome weakened and fell. Contrary to popular views, life quality did not go significantly down in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:11 PM
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You think of humans as leftover robots I don't agree with considering humans as less valuable, but feminists using that argument of "male obsolesce" refute themselves on their own terms. Men are more useful for economy in almost every metric than women working mainly male jobs. Don't get me wrong, men are also less useful doing typically female jobs. Men are not as empathic as women to be nurses, for example. Just pointing out that they are wrong even in their toxic view of devaluing humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:06 PM
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I mean, not all labor in construction requires hard work. Sometimes painting and installing wires is easy enough even for older people, even for women! Of course, they would never do those jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:04 PM
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Women have no evolutionary incentive to truly prioritize the worker bees so it will never happen. That's something we need to accept as reality. Very true, women only have true empathy for children and maybe a little for their husband, although we know that love is conditional. Men may not be able to change women, but at least they don't have to put the facade of caring for them and actually make them work for their own stuff and not give or help them just for having a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:02 PM
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Perhaps you should widen your view of women's capabilities. Perhaps they shall start proving it instead expecting the government to put them there artificially. You know, they can start in a normal jobs as most men do instead that power lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:01 PM
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And my argument is that a guy is going to attract a woman who is compatible with him compatibility 🙄 Sure, magically the guy meets the compatible girl, no effort required. Well, I get why women believe it is magic, they do no work in the seduction process.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:59 PM
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People who get depressed or commit suicide after losing a job or retiring get like that precisely because they are treated as trash and their value was granted. Their mistake was assuming society would care shit, not working or even having it as a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:58 PM
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I love how gay men treat women and call out their bullshit, exactly as they deserve and at their level, and women get so mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:53 PM
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Yes :( In a sense we even suffer if we don't suffer... boredom, nihilism. It is so insane, like cacti gets rotten when it has more water than it needs. Maybe like cacti we do need some droughts to appreciate life after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:50 PM
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the unselected men were basically contributing in part to their own well being but also substantially toward the group to support the wives of the other men and their children/families. Basically they were forced to be cuckolds until they either found a mate, left the tribe or died. Yes, very sad and unfair. In a sense we still do that through taxes, paying for other men's bastards and lazy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:49 PM
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Nobody wants an old person working in construction unless it’s in a role that a old man or woman can perform. Sadly, as population goes down fast, we will find ourselves working in stuff we don't like just to survive until death.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:48 PM
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A man with lower status, usually single and paid less than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:47 PM
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Most professional jobs are not as productive as expected, and plenty of people with high education cannot get jobs on what they want or rather are underemployed. Meanwhile, plenty of "uneducated" people find ways to contribute to society that are way more useful overall than spreadsheet jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:45 PM
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Most did a terrible job, tho, such as videos dancing on tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:43 PM
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Nobody needs to be "useful" and life isn't a competition of "who is more useful". This mindset leads to so many old guys killing themselves after retirement. Easy to say that when you have conditioned air, sitting on a fat ass in reddit in a weekday. Sure, infrastructure builds and fixes itself, and babies come from the void. No one need to be useful /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:43 PM
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In short, I don’t think that this is anything that a LTR guy has to worry about unless he wants to transition to casual sex. Then, the guys who have been gaming women for casual sex regularly are going to have the advantage. My argument is that flirting skills and initial steps of seduction are the same for both men looking for relationships and looking for hook ups. The difference is that players have years of trials and experience on that, and if a LTR guy ends up alone he will have to do bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 01:05 PM
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It is literally the reason we all are here, so yes, it is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:58 PM
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Most men have their first sexual experience by age 17 in the US (22 globally). Having sex 2 or 3 times while on drugs is not much better than being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:58 PM
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a man who hits on women lots but has never gotten in to a relationship I meant men able to get casual sex, but those men you mention seem more likely like desperate bluepillers, which indeed also have issues even deeper than those of players.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:57 PM
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Previous LTR experience is social proof after that point. I think it depends on how the LTR ends. If it ends in good terms, that is OK, but also it is likely you end up being shamed as disloyal, dishonest, violent, etc. even if not true, and women are often believed more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:56 PM
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Yes, being single for too long is also bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:54 PM
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I'm not into women, I'm just empathic to heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:53 PM
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You are tall, your issues are different from men with average height. If average men ignore women or don't see them as worth their time, women will not care. That game of ignoring them only works when women are attracted to you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:53 PM
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Perhaps but I don't know what "pre-selection" means. It seems guys that had relationships are more likely to get relationships again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:50 PM
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This is why I say it over and over again: Women do NOT want LTRs, they just want relationships with men that are long enough for them to extract as much use out of him as they can and then they are the ones who bail. So basically, the objectification of women they complain about so much is the thing they do to men. Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:47 PM
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Being attractive is a catalyzer, but it works two ways: You attract more people you would like to, you have more options, but also some of those options are not being honest and just want to be with you for looks or status only. Still, I would prefer to be handsome, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:30 PM
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No doubt about that, but the entry point (flirting, dating, etc.) is the same that players have. So even if a man is good for relationships, if he has no game because relationships took his time to practice and meet women, he will be in huge disadvantage if he is out of the LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:27 PM
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APPS
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:04 PM
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It depends on the attitude. Most Women on the sex market today has been fucked by miles of dick, and if LTRs are not so important to you maybe that is not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:04 PM
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Only one woman? That seems boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:38 PM
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Women usually don't find a guy's intention after a while. That is OK, that is part of the dynamic of meeting a special one or someone worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:07 PM
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Agreed the thread is derailed, but it is related to this issue. What is the point of LTR, having fewer options to flirt, if commitment is almost a liability? At some point the risk is not worth it, or maybe men are fooling themselves thinking their relationship will never end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:40 PM
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My point is that if you are a man and you like LTR or hook ups you need the same skills of seduction and flirting. Men who got caught on LTR simply did not have as much options and time to practice so in that market they will be lost if the LTR is over. Yes, men manipulate women and women manipulate men, that is not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:36 PM
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People shouldn't commit if they don't want it. I don't think people commit for wanting, they commit for what it implies. Exclusivity, trust, love, rising kids, etc. Almost none of that is required anymore, so commitment is mostly performative. You can rise kids as a single mom, you can love without marriage, you can be or not exclusive in a relationship, etc. Commitment and marriage are like monarchy today. Not saying it worked for some couples, but everyday it gets more and more worthless and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:34 PM
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You are right, but it is sad so many women are damaged forever and are such bad company and a liability while so many good men just want love and company.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:31 PM
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Men that can get "better women" and get casual sex have always had the ability to do so before, during, and after relationships. It depends a lot on the man. The view of getting someone better is no longer taboo, so I don't really see the point of commitment anymore. It seems mostly performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:22 PM
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You are right, although personally that is not my case because I'm a software developer so I don't really interact with many women. Not that I care so much, I have low libido, but it would be hell for men with normal libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:20 PM
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I wonder if pre-selection may compensate for lack of flirting experience or rust flirting skills. Maybe after a relationship you do not see relationships as seriously, so they get easier to get? No idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:19 PM
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If individual men opting out of LTRs because their flirting skills will get too rusty is now a "Men's Issue" that we all need to care about, please do let us know...we will be sure to treat it with the gravitas it deserves. You are considering it less important, but in a sense that is the start of every relationship and therefore family. It sounds silly but men flirting may be the most important skill that made us exist. LTR affecting that skill may therefore affect future relationship, make com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:03 PM
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If you don't want a relationship then don't have one Agreed, but my post is pointing out that men are really risking many chances to get better women and relationships by committing to one. People often focus on the risk for women in relationships, such as not developing a career, but men also risk a lot and sacrifice a lot of options, and money, and diversity... for something that may not be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:01 PM
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I agree, but usually meeting new people while being in a LTR don't mean you can flirt... well, some men don't care after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:40 PM
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At best you get good at meeting other women as the one you practiced with, which may be a disadvantage as if that LTR ended then the same story may repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:34 PM
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Sorry, but maternity is a decision just as getting into a LTR. If women don't care about men's issues, why do you expect men care about women's? Sure, not the same issues and not the same level of relevance, but both are decisions and after all you need healthy relationships and happy men for those mothers to rise healthy children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:33 PM
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I think that flirting with one person is good in a relationship, but what works for your current partner don't necessarily generalizes to other people. At best you get better at relationships, but not at finding partners as flirting to get relationships is different than flirting inside a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:31 PM
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Flirting to keep the flame is different than flirting to meet women. The first is easy and just keeping the relationship going, the second is risky and often disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:28 PM
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IDK about women, but I suspect they lose lots of time meeting men that end up being worthless, it may be disheartening and discouraging. Sure, men don't have many options in the first place, but women have lots of poisoned options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:27 PM
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IDK, flirting to get women feels so different to flirting with your woman. First is a risky game that depends on unknown variables, second is just healthy relationship dynamic. At best you do get good at getting women that are like your ex... maybe that is why men end up with women with the same issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:21 PM
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Your (collective) reasons don’t matter to anyone but yourselves. That is why I oppose giving women jobs just for being women, or giving them more breaks for having menstruation pain or babies. Their collective reasons and issues are theirs only, they have their decisions to get pregnant if they want... other people shall not compensate for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:19 PM
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Flirting to meet women is different than flirting to keep a relationship running. The first game is risky and fun and often disappointing, the second is only fun. Also you cannot practice flirting with only one woman, as women are different. So men who were at a LTR for years, has a huge disadvantage as the dating game is now dominated by manipulative players with way more experience flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:17 PM
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I don't get why you need to make it personal, this post is not about me. Just pointing out LTR are risky for men too, in fact too risky for men because women can get men even if they are ugly as a dirty truck... not the men they want, but they don't have to die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:09 PM
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If you are in a LTR, flirting with other women can break the relationship, but at least you keep and develop the flirting skills. Sure, women may like it for "getting the player" but after a while it may create distrust and instability, just as someone who does not grow up. If you are in a LTR and only focus on the woman, the LTR may work better and be serious, but also your flirting skills rust. IDK, seems like a trade-off to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:07 PM
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Yes, in fact most single young men are getting zero sex and relationship. Of course, women get horny at seeing most men suffer, just as they get horny with men fighting to death for them, but my point is that you can be socially skilled and yet be inept on issues of dating and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:05 PM
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I think you didn't get it. Flirting skills are necessary for both players and LTR men. What they do after that is the key. But LTR men have the disadvantage they don't practice those skills and have to compete with players with way more experience if the LTR ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:03 PM
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Like what girl is going “well he knows how to charm the pants off a bunch of women. I can’t wait to bring him home to meet my parents!” Which is precisely why players get all women anyway, and LTR guys lose. At least players are free to get the rewards of what they do, LTR doing that are just losing time and opportunities as they are committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:58 PM
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I mean, they often have friends, go to parties, know how to communicate, etc. but that does not make them good at getting women even having more access to them than average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:57 PM
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I can't agree. For instance, the typical nice guy is good at social skills but terrible at flirting. A guy in a serious LTR cannot really practice flirting skills without being dishonest and disloyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:52 PM
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This only makes sense if the goal in life is to somehow get a high N. Which ok? My point is that even if your goal is to get another LTR, you have to compete on flirting skills with guys that have been on the market way more years than you. Flirting from players and LTR men is not different, they need the same initial skills for different purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:50 PM
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Because women are just as shallow as men, they just claim otherwise. Remove the female gaslighting and you get women care about both skills and looks. Men need both looks and skill to win. The more they have one the least they need the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:43 PM
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women are generally at an even bigger disadvantage. This is because men are more able to compensate for their looks with other factors that don't "depreciate" over time. I never saw it like that, although makeup and surgeries usually are more available for women, I agree there is a limit to the facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:40 PM
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Even if you are not religious, if you are in a LTR you are not practicing skills and meeting women all that time. All those chances are being lost as you get old and uglier. This means that LTR, if it ends, may be just a lost of time and you get less sex nor fewer relationships. Men need the same flirting skills to get sex and relationships initially, so yes, men who don't commit are learning and are way better to get women than men who did not practice such skill for months or years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:38 PM
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all my LTRs had decent to large experience with women and multiple LTRs. So not very LTRs after all? You may be comfortable changing a boyfriend every month, and that is your decision if that is the case, but that is not exactly commitment or serious relationship, but rather serial monogamy. It may work for you, but not for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:36 PM
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I mean, suppose you develop skills enough to attract a LTR, those skills will not develop further after you get that relationship. You will develop other skills, though, such as relationships and such, but not flirting and attracting women. Even supposing those skills are not forgotten, you still don't develop those skills further and if the LTR ends then you will be competing with men in an open sex market that has been good at that for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:35 PM
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Yes, LTR are risky for men too in sexual and dating aspect, just as it is for women on aspects of independence. If it works it is great for both, if one fails then it is terrible for both. Is it really forth it? I think commitment is basically dead, commitment today is mostly performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:32 PM
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Exactly, this is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:30 PM
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Except this post is not suggesting women to pay for anything as alimony does. It just exposes that it is a huge risk for men to be in a LTR. It is putting all eggs in the same bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:30 PM
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Women always tell themselves this but always end up being in the bed of the same men other women fuck. Players would not be players if women did not like them, but they do. In fact, even conservative and non sexual women like those men and later complain for the reasons I exposed. This dating game is made for players, not for LTR men. It is flirt-centered and sex-centered, not relationship-centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:28 PM
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People who can get and keep a long-term relationship usually have pretty decent social skills. I'm sure dating skills are a type of social skills but one is not necessarily implied by the other. But guess what? Flirting skill are necessary for both players and LTR men. What they do from that varies, but they both need those skills to even get women's attention. Players don't need to be experts in relationships to get women, but men who are experts in relationships also need flirting skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:27 PM
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A huge disadvantage in terms of what? Someone who's having casual sex will learn skills to have more casual sex, I mean, both players and LTR men need to play the same way to initially get women, but the intentions are different. The difference is that players get way more experience and skill on that first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:23 PM
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No, because lower testosterone is bad for male body. The problem is the libido, which is disempowering, not the other functions of testosterone. It is good women's body are only attractive for just a few decades, so one of them don't have power all life on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:17 PM
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You are right. Making women a priority is a mistake, they shall be treated as a prize or a point to a greater goal. At best they are the mother of your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:58 PM
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I hope I could do it, but still the desire is there anyway. But I agree, this is a stupid game, all performative. Even if you are a good partner there is no guarantee you will find a good partner. I hope drug to reduce libido but not testosterone is developed, but sadly it will never be developed as this rat race civilization is moved by male libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:54 PM
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Most women will never be desired beyond their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:52 PM
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Sure, but what is the point of any kind of performative stage of commitment?
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