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Serge_Suppressor/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 04:03 AM
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I'm a man. This doesnt bother me because it's not about me. No one is presenting an "average man" as "worse than a wild animal." They're saying they'd rather risk the possibility of an outlier bear than an outlier man. why are you so triggered by this? It's just women talking about their anxieties in a world where there are sexually predatory men who do terrible things when they think they can get away with it -- e.g. out in the woods, alone with some random woman. No one is really inviting bear…
/r/MensRights11/05/24 04:48 PM
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The fact that you can't think of anyone current should tell you something. Andrew Tate is around, and a massively popular grifter. Valerie Solanas is long gone, and was a mentally ill oddball who never had a fraction of the influence, and was mostly seen as a curiosity or a cautionary tale about feminist anger or lesbianism. Like, the only point of comparison is that both hate the opposite sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/24 07:52 PM
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the overwhelming majority of bear encounters end with the bear running away. If you know what to do and keep your head in an encounter with a bear, you're all but guaranteed to be fine. Whereas a random man may be out looking for a victim. It's weird how triggered thin-skinned men get from this. No one is saying all men are bad or you personally are bad. They're saying that there are enough predatory men out there that they'd rather not deal with a strange man alone, because they can't know if h…
/r/MensRights08/05/24 04:53 PM
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Higher male sex drive is an adaptation specifically related to reproducing as often as possible to keep the species alive Nope. For most of human history, female fertility was pretty low most of the time, because people were nomadic often walking vast distances and experiencing frequent starvation. Male and female sex drive are both very high because sex was used as a way to cement the community. EDIT: If the high male sex drive were to maximize reproduction, it would be exclusively and reliably…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:44 PM
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You're talking about subjective traits. If you find the person you're with very appealing in multiple ways, you're probably more likely to have a happy marriage and happy home, which no doubt will contribute to the health of your kids. As far as raising healthy kids, economic resources and susceptibility to diseases are the issues. Don't waste time on eugenic pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:43 PM
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IQ has only a moderate connection to genetics, and even less to do with intelligence — that's why poor people score worse and why you can study for the IQ test and do better next time. If high IQ parents adopt out their newborn to a poor family, that kid will generally have a lower IQ. The name is a misnomer. The IQ test was invented to measure a child's development compared to their peers at a particular point in time. Benet was explicit that it did not measure intelligence, and that he did not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:34 PM
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Iow, media were indoctrinating you into this belief about gender even when you were a child. How do you separate that indoctrination from "natural" difference between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:07 PM
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Are the majority of men on dating apps? Because if not, that doesn't prove he's an outlier.i also find them more at peace I am with myself, the less obsessional I am about sex. Men may want sex more generally, but I think the cultural expectation that you're supposed to chase skirts to prove your virility plays a bigger role than most think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:05 PM
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The idea that any change in sex drive would have eliminated humanity is just silly. I'm sorry, but you have no way of knowing if that's true and there's no good reason to think it would be. And you're confusing biological drives with behaviors and attitudes. There certainly are issues with some of the ways men think about and act towards women in various cultures, but the problem is not biological drives as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:01 PM
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There's a reason most women don't go for this option — even if they have a high sex drive, and it's not about men's looks. A shitty male lover can injure a woman, and there are horny-angry men out there who want to do that. There are plenty of men with mediocre looks who don't struggle at all to get laid. I'd take having to put in a little extra effort to get laid over knowing that any guy I brought home or even a rando I passed in the street may be planning to rape and murder me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:53 PM
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The consequences of chosing the wrong partner are much, much graver for women than men. It's easy for them to get into a relationship, but they might not make it out again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:46 PM
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The inverted way this sub (and TRP in general) usees "normie" always fascinates me. All thesee folk theories about sex — that men are always horny by default, that women are these strange moon creatures whose arousal depends on ten different things aligning — go back centuries. They're what people are expected to believe, and what uninformed people tend to beliece Pseudo experts like PUAs preach this stuff because we've all been more or less conditioned to believe it already, so it's easy to sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:31 PM
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This whole post sounds like you hang out with a lot of guys who obsess about sex and who women don't find desirable, tbh. Women's sex drives are on average different than mens qualitatively; they take longer to get into the mood, but also end up more into it for longer when they do. They're not less horny generally, they're less horny for casual encounters with guys they don't know who probably won't make them cum. Male drive isn't stronger — it's just more urgent (and part of that is cultural.)…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:35 PM
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In our early slutty ape days, we spent a lot of time walking long distances with little food. Human fertility was much, much lower. Fertility rates shot up with the agricultural revolution, which led to a population boom, and all the ensuing troubles that caused, like periods of extreme scarcity, the growth of hierarchical systems, and a proprietary attitude towards land, livestock, children, and women. The fact that some bonobos are more successful at mating is completely irrelevant. The commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:01 AM
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If we're talking about longstanding human evolutionary traits, we're talking about pre-industrial tribes, Amazonian and otherwise. Edit: And of course only pre-industrial tribes would believe it. you wouldn't expect a society with modern science to believe it, nor a largely monogamous society. Unfortunately, we can't study how humans lived 20,000 years ago, nor can we make inferences from pre-industrial tribes that live now. And we certainly can't say what they believed about paternity. But ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:36 AM
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Right. And just because a relationship ends with a breakup doesn't mean it was a waste or a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:04 AM
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We're talking about online dating, not the sex industry, and I made no claim to be explaining the sex industry. What factors in online dating did I fail to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:41 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:55 PM
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It's just not the case. Human sexual selection is sperm selection. It's why your genitals are large compared to your body vis a vis other animals, why you can have sex all year long instead of going into heat, and why your dong is shaped like a plunger. If you go far enough back, paternity was not even a concept in the modern sense. The "father" was the mother's primary partner. Humans are the slut ape. Women are more selective because they have more to lose. We don't live in in tribes like we u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:31 PM
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The beginning was interesting. Stopped reading when you started with the pseudoscience. Treating the UX of dating apps, an extremely new phenomenon, as reflective of ageless biological truths is nonsensical for obvious reasons. It would be interesting to see a post actually examining the cultural, design, and psychological factors behind men's and women's experiences on a dating app, rather than fall back on internet folk theories of evopsych. This was not that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:06 PM
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Good point. You should avoid relationships of any sort, friendships included. If you really see love as nothing more than an investment with an expected return and feel cheated by a partner for simply not preferring you or theoretically falling out of love with you one day, than all you'll do is spread your resentment to friends and romantic partners. You're right to remove yourself from the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:15 AM
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Lots of people have been in relationships for decades and will tell you you're wrong. Yeah, both women and men fall out of love sometimes. With the right person, you can also stay in love, despite all the challenges a relationship faces. Been together with my partner for about 20 years, and looking forward to several decades more, Goddess willing. You should spend some time thinking about the fact that being emotionally invested in a person doesn't mean you literally own them. They can leave you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:06 AM
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Good for you, I guess? I'm not sure what you mean by "self-righteous lib men," since people on this sub generally don't understand what "liberal" mean and the nuttier ones actually think it's a synonym for "left." Regardless, glad you found your people, even if it's completely off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:59 PM
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I'm glad those men understood your problems and fears. What point are you making?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:57 PM
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A few things: Cheating is bad. Abusing children is much, much worse. They're not equivalent accusations. You can cheat once and basically be a good person — a good person who did a bad thing. If you abuse kids, you're a piece of shit. That sort of medical exam is much more invasive than a blood test, and probably going to be really traumatic for the child. That being said, yeah, a lot of guys are creepy and paranoid about paternity tests. It's often because they don't want responsibility for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:24 PM
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Source: me and my friends calling each other "f****t" and punching each other in the arm since middle school /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:17 PM
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Spoken like someone who lives in a little bubble, protected from the outside world. If you've never met a group of men who aren't macho or homophobic, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:16 PM
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One wrong article accusing a frat of rape several years ago, and based on that, you're gonna assert men have no male only spaces? Invite your bros over to watch the game. Voila, a male only space, and no one will demonize it or trying to stop you from doing it. Cc As for machismo, you said in your own post that men can still practice machismo and be physically affectionate with each other so you completely undercut your whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:10 PM
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Yes! And it's okay to want something because it makes someone else happy, or to feel good about backing up your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:23 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:30 PM
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Wow. You're a fragile one, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:29 PM
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Talk to some women about their worst boyfriend sometime, and you'll get all the evidence you need. Or hell, read some stories online about women in abusive relationships with shitbag men. Anyone who thinks women only "date up" hasn't even thought about the issue, much less talked to a woman. If you have two closed groups that mostly pair off one-to-one, the myth you believe is mathematically impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:58 PM
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Gonna assume this isn't a larp, although I'm not convinced. A lot of guys like curvy girls. And you aren't just your appearance, anyway. Maybe there are other things about you guys find attractive. I've met girls who maybe I wouldn't find sexy in a picture, but just had an energy — a way of carrying themselves — that was hot. But in general, sex holds less risk for men. If there weren't so many guys who are complete psychos (and if so many of those psychos weren't fighting tooth and nail to erod…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:05 AM
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Seriously. It's such a weird, neurotic way of coping. Coming up with these absurd folk theories about human interaction because some woman rolled her eyes when you were bothering about Call of Duty. Edit: I think it's even weirder than that a lot of the time. Like they come up with these theories because they imagined some woman rolling her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:17 AM
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Sounds like you hang out with a pretty catty group of people if everyone is always shaming everyone. Outside of Internet arguments and the occasional guilt trip from my parents, I honestly can't remember the last time anyone, man or woman, shamed me about anything. I think the last time it happened to me in a romantic context must have been in middle school. It sort of made sense then, because everyone was kind of childish and insecure, and viewed dating and friendship like a competition. Fortun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:07 AM
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Who demonizes men for having hobbies and interests? Like yeah, if you're fanatically obsessed with something to the point where it's all you'll talk about some people might not want to hang out with you, but no one cares about you watching football or playing COD or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:58 PM
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Why would it trigger me? I've got a great relationship with the love of my life. You believe what your anecdotal experience has shown you, and I'll believe what mine has shown me. I know enough about evolutionary psychology to know it's pseudoscience based on myths about ancient societies we really know almost nothing about. What we do know is that human hunter-gatherers were communal and non-monogamous — it's why your dong is shaped like a plunger and you can have sex all year long, instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:07 PM
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Lmfao. You people are the funniest. Cry more. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXs9eSdW0AAWxgg?format=jpg&name=900x900
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:16 PM
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Yes. The Overton window has shifted far to the right in America. Here's a song from 1966 from a left wing songwriter saying exactly the same things about liberals I am right now. This shit really isn't that hard to research. No one on the left considers liberals left. We never have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:39 AM
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Right on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:46 AM
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What are you talking about? What do you imagine that dopey show has to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:45 AM
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Liberals are centrists, and the people called "blue pill" are generally liberals. It you're talking about people who love the Democratic party and think war with Russia is a good idea, those people are center to center-right. Politically, they're maybe 3 degrees to the left of neocons
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:39 AM
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There's definitely a divide and conquer strategy by the ruling class, which is reflected in both red pill and centrist (blue pill) ideology. IDK what you mean by "new age feminism," though. There are definitely radical feminist traditions which see the oppression of women as deeply connected to the oppression of the working class and of minorities under capitalism. And of course, there are liberal feminists who are really only concerned with letting women play oppressor as much as men do. But e.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:59 PM
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People who throw footballs also like to watch other people throw footballs. Lots of active people like sports. It really doesn't sound like you know what women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:13 PM
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That's because there's nothing I'm not comprehending. Women don't make themselves targets by dressing cute. Abusive men attack women because they're abusive men. That's as simple as I can make it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:58 PM
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Are you talking about being looked at, or being harassed and/or insulted? You start by saying, women should cover up "to not make yourself a target of the ill-intended," and then switch to, "if being looked at bothers you...." I've never met someone who is bothered just by being looked at. And if, as you say, "those individuals are going to do what they want anyway," that leaves no logical reason for women to cover up, unless they prefer to cover up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:02 AM
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Slight quibble with the word "every" here, but otherwise I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:54 AM
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The source you shared directly contradicts your assertion about creepy men. • Some individual-level risk factors: Poor coping skills, low self-esteem, and sexual attraction or sexual preoccupation. (Tabachnick & Klein, 2011). • Some family-level risk factors: Difficulty establishing and/or maintaining appropriate intimate relationships and/or a chaotic, unstable, or violent home environment (Tabachnick & Klein, 2011). • Some community–level risk factors include: May have difficulty developing me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:41 AM
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Obviously, it's what you said that makes you wrong. Being patronizing just shows that you already kind of know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:35 AM
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If a man says "men can't help themselves in sexual situations," what he's really saying is, "I don't feel I should have to take any responsibility for my own actions." Lots of us men control ourselves without any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:29 AM
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You're right. The lying is a big red flag. Some people just like attention even if they're not looking, but idk, it does sort of seem like she's got one foot out the door and isnt willing to own it. Best of luck to you. Sorry your gf is being so shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:46 AM
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It means you have the theory of knowledge of a third-rate science fiction movie, wherein just through taking a pill (or a certain set of opinions) you can always know that you're right and everyone else is wrong, without the need to think seriously or struggle with ambiguity, complexity, or the limits of your own perspective. It means seeing the world like a fundamentalist or a cult member.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:40 AM
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For real. Like, I don't personally like team sports, but there's nothing alarming about liking team sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:27 AM
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Way worse. The team sports guy sounds kind of basic and dull, but there's nothing worrying about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:26 AM
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That's a non-answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:24 AM
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You live in a fantasy. It really sounds like you don't know how to love and are projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:20 AM
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I don't understand why your girlfriend being shady should pill you one way or the other. No one says women can't be shady, but falling for an entire fantasy worldview like trp because one girl was dishonest with you seems pretty irrational. Also, why would your appearance would factor in at all? Clearly she thinks you're attractive — I mean, she's dating you. But as for your question, it depends: was she actively looking for other guys, or did she just have the profile up? Personally, if it were…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:17 AM
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Creative people are emotional people, and a lot of women are attracted to creative men. You can believe whatever silly superstition you want to about women. My girl loves my weird, emotional ass. And of all the fragile, complex, passionate writers and musicians and artists and people like that who I know, even the basket cases have no trouble finding love. The men who end up alone are the empty-eyed work units who couldn't even tell you what they're feeling. You're confusing what you like in men…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:32 AM
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Women don't like mental weakness in men and since alcohol hides this, this might lead to women ending up with men with alcoholism. ​ In what world does alcohol hide "mental weakness?" Like, have you never seen someone drunk? IDK what you mean by "mental weakness," but I can tell you that getting better at recognizing and communicating my feelings has made my own relationship a lot better. When I used to just get prickly and not be able to say what I was feeling, it would put a strain on my relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:08 PM
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Nah dude. A bitch is a man who broods or acts cold for weeks because he's scared of his girl seeing him cry for half an hour. Dudes trying to be hard act like babies. Nothing makes you look weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:43 AM
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Guys who stuff down their emotions are the most easily manipulable people on Earth, my dude. Doubly so if they do it because they're scared of losing their "position of power."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:36 AM
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What do women have to do with it? Many men drink alcohol because they're afraid of their emotions, but it's not like being an alcoholic gives you pull. And guys who numb their emotions tend to be some of the moodiest, least logical people out there. They're constantly running from themselves — it's an inherently irrational place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:27 AM
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Also, you look far weaker conspicuously running from your emotions than you do just owning them. It's like half an hour crying and talking about your feelings vs weeks pouting and brooding because feelings are scary. There isn't much that's more melodramatic than a dude trying to play the stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:22 AM
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That's absolute nonsense. You're afraid of being seen as weak, and using pseudo-scientific nonsense to cover your fear. Stop living in fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:05 AM
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Sorry dude, but if you're so terrified of your gf seeing you in a moment of weakness that you can't cry around her, you're living a life of fear and cowardice. I've cried around my gf many times, and she can't get enough of me. It's a normal, human thing to be sad sometimes. Being able to express emotions without fear is part of what makes a man. I'm sorry about your friend. Get over the toxic bullshit and ask your gf for a hug. You'll feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:02 AM
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He doesn't care about what random normies think. He just fantasizes that they're trying to hurt him somehow to justify his own selfish mindset. That's completely different.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:41 AM
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You sound incredibly selfish. Your whole post was about how you hate people and think they're evil and out to get you. That's a very selfish way to look at the world. You said in the comment above that even someone standing in an aisle makes you hate them — as if you don't constantly daydream yourself. Most people are a lot less selfish than you. That's okay, you can become better, but you have to stop deluding yourself that everyone is out to get you.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:39 AM
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Depression has plunged you into delusion. You're not seeing "truths," you're wallowing in self-deception, because when you're miserable you get to focus entirely on yourself. Yeah, try getting some medicine — I hope it shakes you out of your narcissistic fixation. "It must be true because it makes me feel bad," is no way to live life.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:35 AM
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Why is "As we all know" always followed by the most deranged, delusional shit imaginable?
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 04:30 AM
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I think there's a time/place/manner thing whee some men are so emotionally blocked up that they don't know how to open up in a way that doesn't overwhelm their partner, or else they oscillate between the rage they use to bury emotion and the emotions themselves in a way that can be jarring or scary to be around. Or they think that because a woman isn't willing an able to process or help at a certain time, it means they don't care. It's a lack of patience and perspective. This stuff takes time, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:46 AM
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That's pity train bullshit. Women love seeing you open up to them, because it builds intimacy and communication. Those voices that say your emotions don't matter are coming from you. That doesn't mean unload every bit of anguish at the first conceivable moment. Many guys are so used to repressing emotions that sometimes they struggle to express them clearly or in a way their partner can process. But if you want a lasting, loving relationship where you truly feel safe and cared for, it's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:31 AM
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Do you consider that a negative sign, I hope?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:24 AM
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Guys with really strong feelings about who women are and what they really like or want. It's a good sign a dude is living in his fantasy and doesn't listen to actual women. "Staceys," "smv," "hypergame," "the wall," and any of that corny ass "men are from Mars women are from Venus" PC crap are signs that a guy only sees women as projections of his own fantasy life. They're just not people capable of forming relationships with women. Being a judge bitch. Guys who think the music they listen to or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:15 AM
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Or, split the check. Or have a picnic. Or, take someone out to dinner knowing you might not get laid bc it's really not that big a deal. This is such a non-issue.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:53 PM
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No one is forcing men to buy women dinner. If you don't want to take someone on a date, you're already free to not take her on a date.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:37 PM
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So you really not see the difference between "I'm not obliged to have sex with you," and "It's actually okay for me to rape, beat, or murder you?" For example, if I wanted to stick my dick in your ass and you said no, then by your logic, it would be fine for me to hold you down and shove it in.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 03:36 PM
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If Warren Farrell can grift, why can't Pearly? It's a positive development that MRAs are moving towards being an equal opportunity grifter support group.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 03:30 PM
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I'm glad very few autistic people agree with you, and hope you get right with yourself, my dude.
/r/AllPillDebate12/09/23 02:39 AM
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The studies say that: 1st: NTs tend to see autistic ppl as less trustworthy on first meeting. Unfortunate, but not surprising since paralinguistic things like eye contact and mirroring, which are difficult and unnatural for many autistic ppl are a big part of how NTs get a first impression of people. Since it covers the 1st ten seconds, the obvious solution is to, you know, hang for more than 10 seconds. The second says more autistic women are in relationships than autistic men, by a large margi…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 09:43 PM
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Think about a flat earth debate sub. For flat earthers, it's an environment where they can share their fringe beliefs, surrounded by fellow wingnuts who will affirm those beliefs, even if they have no evidence. As for round earthers, most would rather not bother debating basic facts with people who deny them and don't accept evidence. That's this sub in a nutshell. It's mostly a red pill circle jerk. The name implies one side took a magical pill that allows them to see the truth without even hav…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 08:20 PM
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This is how abuse is passed on. You had no model for a loving, affectionate relationship, so you don't know how to have one and think it's impossible. Maybe your saintly uncle is the same way — he chose being kind over being in a relationship, because he thinks it has to be one or the other. As for your friend, her rejecting you and dating this other guy aren't necessarily connected. Sometimes you just like someone as a friend, and don't feel that spark, and that's okay. Idk why she chose him — …
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 08:01 PM
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Am partnered. Am extremely sweet and affectionate to my partner, and she adores me. But don't let that stop you from believing nonsense.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 07:50 PM
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Some women end up with abusive men. Some men end up with abusive women. There's no mystery here, once you remove the part you're imagining: most people — women, as well as men — like to be treated well. Also, "alpha" and "beta" aren't really useful ways to describe most relationship dynamics. There's always give and take, and people's dynamics and roles in their romantic relationships don't necessarily reflect their roles in their friendships, work life, family relationships, etc. Stop thinking …
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 07:46 PM
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Oh, well if it's one person's opinion, it must be true.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/23 07:39 PM
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I didn't say she's dominant. Very few couples actually have one partner that's always dominant, and dominance is only a useful way of thinking about a few aspects of relationships. She's dominant sometimes, I am other times, and no one is a good deal of the time. Gender has already become radically less rigid than it was even in the nineties, much less in the fifties (the era conservatives actually mean when they say "traditional.") Boys act in gender non-conforming ways and, in a lot of communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:59 AM
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This is one of the reasons that the breakdown of fairly longstanding gender roles, which so many conservatives rage about, is actually a really good thing for both men and women. As a man who was originally pursued by my partner, it was awesome, and my relationship is fucking amazing. The less we see thinks as rigid gender dualities, the more we can understand our own needs and desires and figure out what works for us. And yeah, there are tons of guys who are unfulfilled because want their partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:15 AM
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Best thing I've read on this sub maybe ever. Also, quoting Aristotle and chuckling smugly is idiot shit for morons to do.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 10:03 AM
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Gonna guess you mean incels' rights to post. Without incels posting fewer guys will be tricked into blaming all their problems on women and genetics. They'll work on themselves instead, and have relationships. Incel problem solved. Pretty good idea. I support the Petroleum Mine solution of banning Incel posts.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 05:57 PM
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The answer, as I've said before, is that it depends. In my own relationship, I was pursued initially before I said, "yes," and we both hear a "no" sometimes. But sex isn't a simple yes/no question. It's what do we do, should we try xyz, what feels good to you, are you still into it, are you close, want to go another round, etc.? And like other forms of social intercourse, each time has its own particulars But since you're an extremely online virgin ruled by resentment, you view it as a cutscene …
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 03:59 AM
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Not trying to insult you here, but the question is relevant: are you a virgin? You seem to view sex as like that scene in the never ending story with the sphinxes, where it's some incredibly perilous test against a giant titty monster statue thing with laser eyes.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 03:00 AM
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Right. So the man say "I want sex," and the woman says, "I want sex," and then they have sex. Whatever labels you apply, it happens if and only if both people say, "yes." It's like a binary AND operation. Would a truth table help?
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/23 02:20 AM
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Both people, obviously. You're assuming every man everywhere is automatically available for sex at all times and with everyone, which is obviously false. For sex to occur consensually between two people two people need to decide to have sex. Again, as always you don't think about your own actions. It's just mommy unfairly denying you in your head.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 11:04 PM
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Not what I said in the comment you were responding to.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 07:45 PM
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Literally exactly what you said, but keep sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting, "no, you!" if you want.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:26 PM
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Damn, dude. You must have to wrap it around your waist a couple times and wear it as a belt.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:18 PM
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It's a little insulting that you think heterosexual men are too stupid to understand the concept "assigned male at birth." Please tune down the misandry, ma'am.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:13 PM
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Are you a teenager? Because most adult men have a lot more control than that.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:09 PM
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Crazy how you have no responsibility for any of your actions, whereas women are to blame for everything that happens to them.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:08 PM
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False. I'm with someone who pursued me. Many men are. Men may pursue women more often than women pursue men, but both happen. Pursuing someone is a choice. If I ask someone out to lunch and they say, "yes," we are both choosing to get lunch together.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:06 PM
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You've really never met a married or partnered man who's not "Chad?" I highly recommend leaving the basement and watching people, because the overwhelming majority of partnered men don't remotely resemble the ultramasculine erotic cartoon you spend so much time thinking about and resenting.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 04:04 PM
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First your problem is that women say "no" to shitbags, now your problem is that some of them say "yes?" Seems like you just have a problem with women, no matter what they do.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:57 PM
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So guys automatically consent to all sexual encounters?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:56 PM
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Everyone involved in sex chooses when it occurs. If I wanted you to give me your car and you refused, would that be grounds to "dismiss everything you say?" What if some dude wanted to pound your ass and you refused? It's incredibly entitled to think people owe you their body just because you desire it.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:55 PM
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What do you mean by "generalizations are generally true?" It's trivially easy to make false generalizations. This is weirdly difficult to get TRP people to understand, but believing a thing doesn't make it true.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:50 PM
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The difference between virtually any two women or any two men is larger than the difference between the average man and the average woman. That's what you're missing. Preferences of the group as a whole matter way, way less than you think, because you're not trying to date women as a collective entity. You're trying to date a woman. A lot of the dudes I knew in college who got the most play were short guys. Were they ruled out as partners by some women just for being short? Probably. But there a…
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 03:47 PM
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You really should check out forums where women complain about dates. Women quite frequently say, "I thought he was cute, but he ended up doing creepy things/being boring/annoying/patronizing/etc. It's an incredibly common experience among both men and women to find someone attractive, but then lose the attraction bc of their personality. Like near universal among people who go on more than a few different dates.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 03:48 AM
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You're literally quoting me thinking of other things. Is this a bit? Because it's not landing.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 03:31 AM
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What does that mean "near universally more loved?" Lots of short dudes married to women who chose them over some taller dude she could have picked. Biases like that are subtle. They work over populations, and are never anywhere near universal. Might women on average tend to prefer taller guys, all else being equal? Certainly seems plausible. Does almost every single woman prefer the tallest guy possible? Of course not — individual tastes vary a lot more than that. Edit: you should listen to the …
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 03:15 AM
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My stats at what? I've been with the same woman for over 15 years, if that's what you're asking. I am tall, but also hairy, fat, bald, underemployed, and gratuitously fucking weird. Idk, did that cover it?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 08:44 PM
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It's subjective and culturally defined, and varies in different cultures and different times. But when a subjective belief is widespread, it's subjectivity doesn't stop it from having a real effect. It's like how musical taste is subjective, and changes constantly, but bands doing what's popular at the moment are still going to be more successful on average than those doing something that goes against current trends. "Subjective" doesn't mean irrelevant or imaginary.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 08:38 PM
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I mean, it sucks in that it's unfair I guess, but compared to e.g. upwards wealth distribution, famine, war, and all the other bad shit happening, it's a pretty small injustice. Like, no shit, life isn't fair.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 08:33 PM
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Even if "Chad" existed and all the things you imagine him doing successfully were real, why would that mean "none of this bullshit ever fucking mattered?" Were you improving your social skills for Chad's benefit, or were you doing it to make your own life better? This world is unfair in many, many ways. A tiny proportion of the pop control the majority of the wealth. Western countries like the US go around starting wars with impunity. CEOs crash the world economy over and over, and every time th…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 08:29 PM
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Name checks out. Burning one for you tonight, brother.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:57 PM
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No. That's a delusional belief. I'm sure it seems real and unquestionably true to you — that's how delusional beliefs work.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:52 PM
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What makes you think masturbation isn't healthy? I'm guessing when you masturbate, it makes you feel pathetic for not having a woman. If that's the case, masturbation isn't really the problem. Maybe your friend isn't like that, and is just a young guy enjoying himself. Knowing his own body and what gives him pleasure is important — it will make him a better partner when he does get a gf.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:51 PM
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Not all things that are depressing are reality, my dude.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:48 PM
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OP isn't even coming up with ways to get laid — he's trying to convince his friend he'll never get laid without medical intervention. What a fucked up thing to believe at 16.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:46 PM
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Why? You think having lower self-esteem is going to improve the guy's chances? Lots of dudes get little to none in high school and even college, and end up in happy relationships. I'm one of them.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:42 PM
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He sounds happy. You're a teenager, right? Lots of dudes jerk off a lot at that age. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with him.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:34 PM
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So dude is trying to improve himself and staying positive? Good for him — idk how old you are, but you sound too young to believe this nonsense for bitter old men. It sounds like you've got body dysmorphia tbh. I really hope you go see a therapist who can help you work through your issues. Spend a couple hours people watching in a public place, and you'll see plenty of dudes who look worse than you walking around with girlfriends or wives. Your problem isn't your looks, it's your low self-esteem…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:33 PM
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I write like someone who sees shit with his own eyes instead of repeating made up nonsense to make himself feel better. I don't care how long you've been "on the streets" (whatever you mean by that.) You talk like every socially isolated basement dweller who's mad at women over their personal failures. I get that all conservatives and reactionaries operate by the principle of "if I say it enough, it becomes true," but the rest of us demand a little evidence for extraordinary claims, and you've p…
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 02:53 PM
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Extremely taken. Why do you ask?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 02:17 PM
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Where do you get that from? Go hang out with musicians sometime. Like half of them are dudes with women who are more successful than them. You imagine it's rare, because it serves your narrative. But that shit is extremely common.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 02:14 PM
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I'm a man. Why do you ask?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 01:48 PM
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And women will do the same. I know lots of couples where the woman is more outgoing, attractive, and has her shit more together than the man. Hell, I'm in one.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 01:44 PM
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Your whole comment is a fantasy. Can you actually tell?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 09:15 AM
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You're insecure about your height and think you're unlovable, so therefore women can't love? Dude, I know short guys with gfs and wives who adore them. Like ride or die, follow you to the ends of the Earth type of shit. Stop projecting your own insecurity onto women — all you're doing is sabotaging yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 05:08 AM
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In what sense have men's preferences evolved beyond women's?
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 04:45 AM
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It's nerdy to use logic and common sense, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate30/08/23 04:44 AM
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Falling for a more sophisticated scam doesn't necessarily make one a more sophisticated person. And the idea that crypto will continue to build value indefinitely strains credulity more than e.g. some modeling agent thinking a particular woman has talent and being willing to pay a small advance. The difference between getting rich from taking a risk and losing your shirt on a scam often just comes down to luck, or the right tip at the right time. The entire system of financial capitalism is a sc…
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 07:54 PM
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So you had a bad experience and it's the fault of all women? Way to cheat yourself out of positive experiences. As for getting conned, how many techy dudes have lost 5 or 6 figures to a rug pull? Are they all dumb? Because they sure aren't smarter than the woman you called "dumb." Everyone is someone's sucker — the important thing is not to fall for it again.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 07:09 PM
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I'd say wise women, attractive or otherwise, tend not to waste their time trying to convince themselves that your fantasy of alphas/betas/chads/Stacy's/etc. is true. They're like wise men in that respect.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:45 PM
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Where did you even get that interpretation? When someone you like says something mean about your appearance it can hurt your feelings. Clearly she's not assuming it is true (and I have no idea why you assume the dude is a Chad) or else she wouldn't be looking for advice and feedback from others.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:42 PM
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Being childfree is great. Believing in superstitious phantoms like smv is less great.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:23 PM
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"Alphas" and "betas" aren't a real thing. People have different strengths, levels of confidence, etc in different situations, and hierarchies are generally pretty fluid, outside of e.g. formalized government and business structures.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:21 PM
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Humans actually evolved to live in bands, and genes were passed on through sperm competition. I.e., since everyone was fucking everyone, it was down to whose swimmers could make it first. It's why e.g. your dick is shaped like a plunger, your genitals are pretty big compared to your body (vis a vis most other critters) and humans can have sex more or less any time instead of periodically going into heat like most apes. EDIT: the book Sex at Dawn gives a really solid and accessible natural histor…
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:16 PM
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Yeah, women fall in love. Why wouldn't they?
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:11 PM
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It's largely made up. Certain fetish posters and right wing fear mongers are really horny for the idea of men being manipulated into becoming women. It's way easier to just have sex with a gay man as a man than to transition.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:10 PM
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You ever been fucked in the ass? It doesn't actually require transitioning, and you've got a prostate up there to help you have a good time with it. And trans women who haven't had bottom surgery can also do all the normal dick-haver things anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/23 06:07 PM
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Yeah. Could be worse — I really feel for women named Karen, lol.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 01:52 PM
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This quiet, gentle guy I know named Chad. Also, the Chadroulette skit. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hcZVqY21wI
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/23 01:17 PM
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What false claim did I make? Every example I shared is something multiple right wingers have argued to me. You're projecting. The right constantly calls the left emotional, but none of you can justify it. It's just propaganda.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 07:05 AM
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I don't follow. Who's recruiting "academic college kids,"what does it have to do with reverse racism, and what is being obfuscated?
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 06:45 AM
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Wait, you're saying someone isn't a real manly man unless they're swaggering and catty? Congratulations, you've made every drag queen an alpha, which is unironically a big improvement. It's funny how "traditional" never goes back more than a decade or so, because no stoic, old-time working man fits into your box. No wonder TRP showed up for trump with his blathering about hair spray and celebrity goss. All I know is the toughest fuckers I know don't care about any of this silliness. Bring tough …
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 05:20 AM
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There are lots of traditionally masculine blue pill men. A lot of the redpill men who fetishize masculinity do so because they're ashamed of their own gender presentation (or at least how they perceived themselves.) They're not, on average, a more "manly" group. And many of the far left guys I know look like this guy. It's only in the right wing imagination that there's any contradiction. The issue isn't whether or not you fit into "traditional" (really a misnomer) gender roles, but whether you …
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/23 07:43 PM
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Equating left and liberal IS label shifting. Politically, most liberals have more in common with the right than the left. Go back a few decades, and no one thought the terms meant anything remotely similar.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 05:34 PM
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Redpill doesn't own being buff and having a beard. They didn't invent those things. And he's saying crowder is a child, not that he's feminine in some way. Again, not remotely redpill. IDK what you mean by displaying dominance — he's alone in a room, reading a script, so who is he dominating exactly? He seems confident, but that's hardly the same thing.
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 05:29 PM
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Nah. Sounds like you got left and right confused. I mean, everyone uses emotional appeals at times, but the right specifically mobilizes fear of outsiders to get people to fight against their own interests: Everyone is a groomer. Everyone is coming for your children. Everyone who criticize you is actually trying to take away your free speech. Immigrants are invading. Gays are destroying straight marriage. The drag queen reading stories to toddlers is actually part of a secret plot to turn little…
/r/AllPillDebate17/08/23 04:59 PM
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It's hilarious that you still think "liberal" and "left" mean the same thing. You must be a liberal. No wonder the right sucks at everything right now.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 04:02 PM
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If you're looking at baboon asses and thinking, "hmm..." the problem isn't women, my dude. It's a you problem, and that's good news. You can't change 99% of women, but you can change yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 09:13 PM
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The difference between improving for yourself and improving for others is sort of artificial, in that our identities, self-images, and experiences are bound up with our relationships, the information and media we consume (which comes from other people) our socialization, schooling, and other experiences. We're really doing both or neither when we improve. even the idea that a particular course of action is "improving," and the concept of self-improvement are bound up with both cultural ideas (ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:48 PM
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This makes sense, because there is no "sexual/dating marketplace," anymore than there is a "friendship marketplace" or a "family marketplace." There are just people forming relationships with each other. People have the right and the ability to be transactional about this stuff, but it's absurd to assume all relationships are transactional and outside competition always exists. If you lose your partner, it wasn't meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:30 PM
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Who fucking cares where it originated? Incels say it constantly, which is the claim I made. Maybe instead of blathering about whoever first said the stupid myths you believe like it matters, may you could reflect on the fact they're complete nonsense? Because believing AFBB is about as ignorant as a human being can get. Or are you gonna tell me phrenology is real next because I couldn't tell you offhand who invented it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:20 PM
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Because: Having someone to wake up next to and spend your life with is nice, Most people aren't incels who see women as sex dispensers, and Sex with someone you know, love, and are sexually compatible with gets better over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:42 PM
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Not as the wide social and cultural phenomenon it's supposed to be in incel mythology. You have awkward teens who grow into successful adults — both men and women. And there are rich guys with trophy wives. But the "alpha fux beta bux" thing in incel mythology describes very, very few real life relationships, and even in those cases is generally a huge oversimplification. You treat it as a "dating strategy," as if all women have the same tastes and wants, and make the same compromises as they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:38 PM
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Sure. I'm not saying it's always the wrong choice or even frivolous. just that the greater prevalence of cosmetic surgery among women is because women are under much greater pressure to look a certain way.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 06:17 PM
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I've never seen anyone say "you need to be totally happy to find a partner." Not once. I can't even conceive of what it would mean to be "perfectly happy" — alone or with someone else. Where have you been where people say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:06 PM
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You made my day with this, buddy!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:03 PM
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They generally improve for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:55 PM
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Inferring from the fact that he personally is very horny for tongues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:40 PM
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That old meat tongue. Like Leech Woman in Puppet Masters
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:39 PM
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A lot of women just don't like the meat tongue. My GF and I have a very passionate relationship that's been going on for a couple decades, but we don't really put our tongue in each other's mouths. Really don't remember our first kiss itself. I mean, I remember the night and the feeling of this is happening, but I couldn't tell you how we kissed. We were drunk, and it was probably pretty awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:06 PM
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Can't imagine why she wouldn't go through the extra effort for a dude who talks about her like discount clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:51 PM
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Maybe. But just because you're not telling someone you hate them to their face doesn't mean you're not making your feelings obvious. If you're looking at someone with intense hatred and disgust, they can feel it — and why would you want that persons sympathy anyway? And women can see incels encouraging violent behavior on incel boards, fantasizing about violence, and calling men like Elliot Rogers heroes. And even those who don't actively encourage that behavior rarely ever call it out. Also, th…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 03:39 PM
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I think people who are extremely angry and hostile to women online are also extremely angry and hostile to women irl. Like no kidding, nearly everyone talks differently online than they do face-to-face. That doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. A lot of these guys are much worse in person, because they stalk, threaten, manipulate or even assault women. And because it's scarier to have some wingnut rage junkie screaming at you than typing at you.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 03:18 PM
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My point is that "alpha" and "beta" don't really mean anything. They were terms invented by a scientist to describe wolf behavior, but it turned out they don't even do that. The guy later disavowed his theory, because it turns out wolves only aggressively enforce hierarchy when they're in captivity and under a lot of stress. It's all just a fantasy based on pretty recent pop culture cliches. The fact that the people believing the fantasy call themselves "red pilled" is deeply ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:13 PM
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Lots of simps get laid. Unless you tautogically define a simp as someone who flatters women but doesn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:02 PM
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So now you're saying chads don't pump and dump? Edit: If being beta is defined by not getting laid, then your belief is a tautology — people who don't get laid don't get laid. And a "betabuxx" must be a kind of alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:46 PM
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You really haven't met a lot of left wing dudes. There are definitely awkward guys who have trouble meeting women, but there are also "bluepilled" guys who get laid constantly because they treat women in a friendly, respectful way and aren't ruled by resentment. The most promiscuous dudes I've ever met were very affectionate, non-confrontational hippyish guys who you'd probably consider betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:22 PM
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Because a "betabux" is something made up by people who believe completely imaginary and wildly unscientific things about human attraction, dating, authority, power, gender, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:17 PM
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He's Hell Comes to Frogtown pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:14 PM
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Yeah. Sucks that so many women feel pressure to alter their bodies, even when there's no real need for it. Really shows how much misogyny harms women and tells them they're never good enough.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:39 PM
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People downvoting you for telling this guy to take responsibility for his own actions is just wild.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:30 PM
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Boy is bullied. Boy joins a therapy group. Boy lashes out at a girl, calls her a fake and tries to get her kicked out because she's making an effort and finding friends. Counsellor does the right thing, and stops the boy from bullying the girl. FTFY You guys love using words like "logic," "statistics," and "facts," but those words aren't magical invocations. Saying "logic" or "facts" doesn't make your statements logical or factual. Saying "statistics" doesn't fool anyone into thinking you have a…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:21 PM
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53% of adults are married, and 62% of adults are married or cohabitating with a partner. And that doesn't even count people who are dating but living apart. If women were only attracted to 10% of men, and that 10% were mostly chads who liked to play the field, marriage rates would be <3%. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/10/05/rising-share-of-u-s-adults-are-living-without-a-spouse-or-partner/
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:10 PM
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How dare you think of your own pleasure instead of stroking the egos of men who hate you! /s
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:04 PM
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Crazy that you've never talked to an actual woman.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 01:03 PM
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Gee, can't imagine why someone wouldn't want to be your friend after you call them a toilet. They must just hate you for your looks, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 12:51 PM
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"Am I having trouble with women because I call them cold, illogical, emotional subhumans, and resent them for not stroking my ego or cosigning my Nazi pseudo-science? No! It is the women to blame!"
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 12:49 PM
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It's amazing you think your pathological need to patronize and lecture your wife about how right you are and how wrong she is is somehow something she's doing to you. I agree it's good to stop lecturing and overexplaining, but maybe a little self-awareness might help you avoid future conflict?
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