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With a screen name that contains "Pegmaster" you have to be at least a little assholey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:22 AM
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Do you really want to be an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:32 PM
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Don't be so sure. I was a skinny, unathletic kid with thick glasses. My parents' marriage was in bad shape, I later learned that shortly after I was born, my mother told my father that after my sister and I were grown, she was going to leave him, so we lived with a constant undercurrent of hostility punctuated by an occasional outburst. My (older) sister was involved in a recreational activity that was almost all girls, and I got dragged to it at least twice a week, where I sat around and did no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:57 PM
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I'm a boomer. I have two daughters who are in their early 20s. From what I've heard from them and their friends things aren't all that different from when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:37 AM
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It seems to me that this sub has accepted incel mythology as reality. What you read here is so far from most people's reality that it makes me wonder what kind of life the poster must live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:16 AM
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I was single for a long time. My issue wasn't that I couldn't decide how many women I should date before trying to make things permanent, it was finding women to date, period, and any year when I had more than one first date was a good one. When I met my wife, I knew she was the one by the end of our third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:00 PM
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Can't say I can agree with you. The women I dated more than once were all interested in knowing the real me, and for the most part decided that I wasn't what she wanted. One finally decided that she did, and it's been 27 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:14 AM
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I see. Do you have a good source of the demographics of the viewership of Seinfeld? I'm a mid boomer and everyone I know who was my age watched it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:31 PM
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Jerry Seinfeld was born in 1954, boomers are defined as being born from 1946 to 1964. Larry David, who was the head writer for most of the show, was born in 1947.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:37 PM
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That "take my wife, please" kind of humor is from the generation of the boomers' parents, such as Rodney Dangerfield and Henny Youngman, not from boomer era comedians such as Robin Williams or Jerry Seinfeld.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:46 PM
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My best friend is 5' 7", is married with two children. Sorry to hear you haven't been able to find someone, being short does make things more difficult. Me, I'm average height but very skinny. I was a virgin until age 25 and didn't marry until my late 30s, so I understand what you're going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:56 PM
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Feminine does not mean submissive. It's not so much what she does as much how she does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:14 AM
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In that age group, men slightly older, which is why the percentage difference is so much less in the 30 to 49 age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:16 PM
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You need to stop listening to incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:13 PM
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One factor is that nature provides approximately 105 boy babies for every 100 girls. Males have a higher mortality rate at all ages, so ultimately there is a surplus of elderly women, but at the ages that people are looking for a partner there is a surplus of men. That, plus women tending to date and marry slightly older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:12 PM
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I think this Pew survey is more accurate: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ . It shows 51% of men ages 18 to 29 as describing themselves as single, where 32% of women say the same. In the 30 to 49 age group the proportion shrinks to 27% of men and 19% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:49 PM
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Never been to a Twin Peaks. When I was single, we would occasionally go to Hooters because one of my friends likes their wings. It's just a restaurant where the waitresses are cute. I haven't been in years, the most recent time I went was for a goodbye lunch for a coworker who was leaving. My wife didn't care. Hitting on servers is not a nice thing to do at any restaurant. I suspect that Hooters is very practiced at dealing with that sort of thing, but I never saw anything unusual there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:05 PM
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And that explains perfectly why almost all marriage proposals are made by men to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:11 PM
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Why not 50%?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:00 PM
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In order to answer this, I'd need a consensus agreement as to what red pill is. I've read a good bit of the "sidebar", and that sounded like a lot of incel speak. I've also heard that the blue pill is what the red pill isn't, so without a definition, the question is unanswerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 01:44 PM
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Nah, that's not it. I was single for a very long time, and seeing one of my friends find a relationship made me happy, both because it's always nice to see a friend be happy, and to prove that it is still possible and that it might happen to you next.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:03 AM
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She's Gen X.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:05 PM
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In the U. S., the trick is finding reasonable housing in a place that has good school districts. It can be a hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 08:13 PM
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I'm nonreligious, and my wife was a SAHM for quite a few years. It made for a much more relaxed home life and would recommend it to anyone who is considering a family, assuming they can make the economics work. Living more modestly is not a big sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:55 PM
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There's about a 6 percentage point difference between the sexes in support for legal abortion. The divide is not men vs women, it's liberal vs conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:23 PM
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How very red pill of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:43 PM
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One of the reasons we could do this was that we were both well into our 30's when we married. The other reason was that I was building wealth from the beginning of my career. I graduated with a bachelors in three years, and for the first three years after that I lived with my father, and saved for a down payment on a townhouse. I then made extra payments on it and had it paid off in nine years. When my wife and I met, we both had paid off cars, she owned a home and had some equity in it, and my …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:07 PM
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SAHM 2000 to 2006, 8 hours a week 2007 to 2015, took a year off in 2016, back to full time in 2017.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:25 AM
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My wife was a SAHM for the first 6 years after our first child was born. After that, she worked very limited hours until both children were in high school. She did most of the childcare, shopping and cooking. I went to work, maintained the yard, did some home maintenance, and some of the childcare and cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:40 PM
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Hmm, I thought the consensus among the women here was that all that male attention was annoying, and now you're arguing for it. I do know one woman who lived the life you described, she was my best friend's sister. She's outgrown it, once you get past 40 this sort of lifestyle gets old and particularly for the women, the attention starts to lessen. I think you are also overestimating the number of women who can get this level of attention and those that would welcome it, especially past age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:00 AM
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It's my understanding that most women aren't interested in casual sex. I had to give up the possibility of having no strings attached gay sex, which was not a loss since I'm not gay and have no interest in casual sex. Having to give up something you have no interest in is no loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:23 PM
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I'm curious as to why marrying would be more threatening to the wife's independence. From my standpoint of being married for 26 years, loss of independence has been pretty much equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:59 PM
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No, the cause is demographic. There is a numerical surplus of young men. It is a mathematical certainty that some men will not find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:14 PM
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Because it's very important to her and not important to me. I do have say so in decorating decisions, but I use it to try to help her get the look she wants. I'm better at visualizing things than she is so I do add some input.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:31 PM
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No, the rest of the house is her domain. She makes all the decisions about furniture, wall colors, flooring materials, wall colors, where things are and what and where things are allowed. If she wants time to herself, she goes into our bedroom and closes the door, and has time to herself. I finished two rooms in our basement. One was used as a playroom when our children were young, it's now a TV room and also has a dart board. I decorated it with reproductions of classic movie posters and stills…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:35 PM
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When I first heard that term, I asked my wife what that was, she said it was the woman's equivalent of a man cave. My reaction was, oh it's the entire rest of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:08 PM
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The female equivalent to a man cave is a she shed. I don't know anyone who has either. We have a TV room in the basement, I use it to escape from watching the shows my wife likes that I don't. When she's home, our youngest daughter tends to camp out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:43 PM
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I've been a software developer for decades. Almost every developer I've worked with is married with children, and only one of the dozens was married to a woman in IT. Somewhat ironically, two of the four women developers I've worked with were single, a much higher percentage than the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:34 PM
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Yes, if you're single and looking for a partner, it's a great idea to disqualify entire groups of potential partners. After all, everyone in that group is clearly defective. We as individuals should not trust their own judgement as to whether someone would make a good spouse, because clearly the hivemind is a superior source of knowledge. Single women who are past age thirty should insist on only dating men who had early relationship experience and are now available because they could not sustai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:24 PM
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For single men who are past their mid 20s, if they don't have a good social network, they will struggle to meet an appropriate partner. By that age, many of his friends are paired up, and it's difficult to rebuild your social network when most of the people you know are in relationships and you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:04 PM
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What I gather from this is that women don't like to make the first move, not that men will always be in charge. What I think most women would like is for men to make the first move and have the ability to anonymously decline the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:31 AM
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Mine skipped that too. Also acquired a rotten self image from a childhood full of criticism and favoritism towards my older sibling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:05 AM
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Saving money and building wealth are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:01 AM
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Never was able to build wealth with a roommate. Never had sex with one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:41 PM
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I think your appraisal of what young women study is off base. There are plenty of other careers that require a bachelors degree (nursing, most other medical specialties, teaching, etc) and others that most employers will want a bachelors (marketing, project management, accounting, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:16 AM
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It’s not so much that you need to find someone with common interests as common values and attitudes. For example, my favorite thing is sports car racing, which is overwhelmingly male. It’s unlikely I’d meet a woman going to races, and I didn’t. I took up tennis, and that’s ultimately how I met my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:20 PM
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Almost all the women in upper management that I've worked with were married. The same is true for the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:49 PM
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Most skinny men have a limited ability to gain muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:54 PM
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It’s not an evolutionary win until your children reproduce. Just getting a woman pregnant doesn’t guarantee your genes get passed on. Having two parents working to keep their offspring alive is a huge advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:37 PM
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Try menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:19 PM
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Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:18 AM
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This makes no sense to me. There may be a few women who want multiple partners, but the vast majority of women I’ve known either want one partner or want to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:31 PM
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What we did was for my wife to cut back her hours drastically, to where she was scheduled for two four hours in the evenings per week. She got called off enough to where she quit for five years, and was a SAHM. After that, she went back to the 1-2 evenings per week, so I provided care for our daughters on those evenings, and also Saturday. When our daughters were old enough, to be home by themselves, she worked a little more, never more than 16 hours a week. There was a year that she wanted to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:40 AM
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That may be a generational thing. If I sat around the house playing video games my wife would laugh at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:24 PM
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A couple of years ago, I was in the break room eating lunch with one of my coworkers. One of our female colleagues saw us and said “Isn’t that nice, your wives made your lunches for you.” We both broke out laughing. I had to tell her that no, we made our own lunches and it wasn’t 1965 anymore. I suppose somewhere there are wives making their husbands lunches, but I don’t know where.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:22 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:16 PM
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Here, I’m absolutely in the minority. In the real world, at least where I live, I’m in the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:46 PM
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Speak for yourself, homie. Some of us just like women for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:21 PM
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For ages under 50, women are more likely to be in relationships. Past 50, men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:37 PM
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Epically bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:24 PM
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Not always possible, depends on the individual. Some guys can build a good bit of muscle, most guys can build some muscle, and there are guys who can only add a modest amount of muscle. Naturally skinny guys usually are in that last group.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:46 PM
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There are more young men than young women in every country. Go to Wikipedia and do a search on the demographics of a country, and then look at the population pyramid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:48 PM
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I’ve always wondered the same thing. I have an ADHD daughter and her social skill are no different than non ADHD kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:21 PM
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Never had any interest in casual sex. Exchanging bodily fluids with another person always contains some risk, and sex with someone I don’t have an emotional connection to isn’t all that appealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:13 PM
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How many of you here meet enough suitable people to where you’d be dating multiple people at the same time same time? When I was single I never that much success meeting women to where I would be dating more than one at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:34 PM
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Do you have evidence that supports this, other than the postings of redpillers? I've never heard anyone outside of this sub express anything that remotely resembles this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:15 PM
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If your facial hair were sufficient, you could grow a beard. Not all men have enough facial hair. You don't want a scraggly Ted Cruz beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:01 PM
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As a former skinny boy, I'm quite familiar with what it's like to be weaker, plus that idea that it's wrong to hit girls didn't apply, so I'm familiar with what it's like to be pushed around, pushed down on the ground, and being sat on by boys bigger than I was. As far as "As a woman, I think I’d fight a lot more people and start more arguments but other than that, not much would change." goes, as a grown man you should not be getting in fights, that will get you jail or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:59 PM
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OP, how is that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:35 PM
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OP didn’t mention children. Women generally have good fertility rates into their late 30s, she has lots of time if motherhood is one of her goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:09 PM
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I've lived a long time and I've never heard of that concept. Also remember that older men are as a general rule not attractive to young women, so it's not like a husband has much hope to divorce his wife for a younger woman. It does happen occasionally, but it's not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:04 AM
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My wife was 35 when I met her. We've been married for 26 years. She's just as beautiful today as she was the day I married her. Don't let those redpillers fill you full of their nonsense, there isn't a wall. Older men, for the most part, find older women desirable. There are a few men who want to chase women that are much younger, but you don't want one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:53 AM
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Sounds like a lot of incel-speak and not so much real life. Also, the older you are the less time it take to determine that you are compatible. I met my wife when she was 35 and I was 39. I think we started to discuss baby names, and on dates we looked for houses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:40 AM
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If South Korea is pushing pro Nataliya policies, they're failing miserably. SK has one of the world's lowest fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:29 AM
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I know plenty of physically unattractive women who are happily married and have families. You're putting too much value on being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:21 AM
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I don't think MGTOW is popular. The only places it pops up are a few small corners of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:57 AM
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When I was single, my biggest problem was finding someone to ask out. I had a terrible time trying to meet people who wanted to do things with, and an even worse time trying to find someone to date. So, no, it wasn't fear that was stopping me, it was opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:27 AM
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I have to say no. When I was a child my upbringing and treatment by my peers had me thoroughly convinced that I was not as good as everyone else. When I got to middle and high school there were some girls who were interested in me, but my dreadful self image prevented me from doing anything with them, and my self esteem was still dreadful. It may make a difference for young men whose self image is in the normal range but for those of us who were in bad shape already, I doubt attention from girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:12 PM
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I have to say no. When I was a child my upbringing and treatment by my peers had me thoroughly convinced that I was not as good as everyone else. When I got to middle and high school there were some girls who were interested in me, but my dreadful self image prevented me from doing something. It may make a difference for young men whose self image is in the normal range but for those of us who were in bad shape already, I doubt attention from girls or women would get us feeling better about ours…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:00 PM
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I have to say no. When I was a child my upbringing and treatment by my peers had me thoroughly convinced that I was not as good as everyone else. When I got to middle and high school there were some girls who were interested in me, but my dreadful self image prevented me from doing something. It may make a difference for young men whose self image is in the normal range but for those of us who were in bad shape already, I doubt attention from girls or women would get us feeling better about ours…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:00 PM
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https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html Men have a higher mortality at all ages. At age 50, the number of men and women is just about even.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:55 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#/media/File:USA_Population_Pyramid.svg Males are in surplus until about age 40, it's just about even ages 40-60, then the women are in surplus. The problem for older men is that most women their ages are widowed or divorced, and aren't looking for a new romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:17 PM
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It was finding a woman who was unattached and age appropriate, and then on top of that, interested in me. A good year was one with two first dates, and a bad one was one with no dates at all. This is in the pre-apps era, so things sucked just as badly back then as they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:41 AM
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In our case, my friend group was larger and most members were childless, so after I met my wife-to-be we spent more time with my friends. In earlier relationships, most friends were mutual so there was a lot of overlap in our circle of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:31 AM
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Hell no. My wife was a SAHM for a number of years. She needed time to herself, and a break from cooking. This isn't a business partnership, it's a romantic relationship. You want a dead bedroom post haste, followed by a divorce/breakup? Then sit around the house while your partner is cleaning and cooking all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:16 AM
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Father of two here. I love being a father, our daughters are now young adults and are smart, pretty, and well behaved. I have no regrets. But, I would have to say anyone who would volunteer to become a single parent is either wildly delusional about how much work it is to raise children, is wealthy enough to hire a full time nanny, or just plain old fashioned crazy. I do know some people who have made fairly decent single parents, but they all had an ex to lean on. This is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:12 AM
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Child support is also adjudicated in the court system. If you don't want to pay child support and a paternity test shows that you're not the father, than you're in the clear provided you never accepted paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:02 PM
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If you think you need to verify, that's between you two, the government doesn't need to be involved. If the idea of having to ask for a paternity test bothers you, you may want to rethink what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:44 PM
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Why can't you? If you both have multiple partners, it's completely reasonable that she should take a paternity test. If you are exclusive, I see your point as you are now accusing her of cheating, but if you can't trust her, why are you still with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:11 PM
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For those of us who don’t get involved in casual sex, it’s a nonissue. I see no reason the government should get involved. If a woman says that you are the father and you think you are not, then you two can settle this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:08 PM
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Most guys don't. Those who frequent this sub are a small subset of the population and aren't very representative of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:15 PM
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Wife obey you? Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:20 PM
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That's not what I'm seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:59 PM
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Most young women are looking for a relationship, not a hookup. The issue most young men who are looking for the same will run into is that they outnumber the available women in their age group. It's especially difficult for men in the 21 to 25 age group, as most young women will prefer a man who is a few years older, and the women a few years younger than you will be difficult to meet if you're out of school. Dress neatly, get a decent haircut, and attend to your facial hair. Do things in the ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:53 AM
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I have three friends who met their wives playing volleyball. I met my wife at mixed doubles tennis. I invited a coworker to join the team, he met his wife on that same team.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:15 AM
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That's a silly incel phrase. Most people meet and date people of their same socioeconomic group because that's who is in their social groups. Maybe if you mostly experience relationships from social media you might think that, but that's not reality for the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:27 AM
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Sorry to hear that has happened to you. I have never broken up with a girlfriend, they always broke up with me, but none of them ever demonized me. They had just decided that I wasn't what they wanted, and I had no hard feelings about it, if it's not there, it's not there. You just go on to the next one until you find one that's a keeper, and put a ring on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:22 AM
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I really don’t understand why the OP thinks that most women, especially married women with children, have suitors who are just waiting for their chance with her. It’s damned difficult to find a compatible partner and most of us aren’t going to toss our spouses aside unless something serious goes wrong with our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:55 PM
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Again, there are more young men than young men, because more baby boys are born than baby girls. There are more elderly women than elderly men because men don't live as long as do women. Only in later middle age are the male and female populations equal in number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:06 PM
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I was 44 when our second was born. She will get her bachelor's degree later this year, I'll be 66. Fortunately I'm still in good health and am still able to work full time in my chosen career. Unless you are independently wealthy, i wouldn't push this later than your early 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:55 PM
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I regret only having one upvote to give to this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:59 PM
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It’s a nonsolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:07 PM
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That just makes the imbalance worse in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:41 PM
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At all ages, there are more men than women that describe themselves as single and looking for dating and relationships. There's no way to fix that, so anything you do in this space is going to leave some men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:46 AM
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Yes, most countries have more women than men, but the surplus women are elderly and for the most part are widows and divorcees. The exceptions are countries with high birthrates, where much of the population is young, and countries where sex selection has been practiced. (China, India)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:11 AM
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" more young women are single than men " I can't find a population where this is true. Nature provides a surplus of boys over girls so in nearly all societies I'd expect to find more single men, and every country that I've looked at, that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:11 PM
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Maybe a fix, not a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:08 PM
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I did a little searching, and found that approximately one third of the Chinese population lives in rural areas, while two thirds of the Indian population does. I suspect that's most of the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:06 PM
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The country that has the lowest fertility rate in the world is South Korea, If the current fertility rate holds, the next generation will be 30 percent as large as the current generation. South Korea is both very densely populated and it is quite competitive. If you have children, you want them to succeed, and if what it takes is for them to get a Masters degree, you don't have many children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:30 PM
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For one thing, it never had a one child policy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:24 PM
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The average Indian woman has more children than the average Chinese woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:08 PM
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India has an even worse gender imbalance, but a somewhat higher fertility rate. Both countries are going to have large numbers of unmarried men, there's no way to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:27 PM
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There is a surplus of young men and of older women. Single older women for the most part are widowed or divorced and are not very interested in finding a new partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:11 PM
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We're you looking for a partner a few decades ago? I'm guessing not. There were guys who were left out then, just like there are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:40 PM
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There are slightly more women than men in countries that have a moderate to low fertility rate, which is most countries, but it's skewed by age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:52 PM
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Casual sex will not be available to most men because most women are not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:11 AM
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I've never heard anyone say that a man's appearance isn't important. Over an over, the advice I've heard was that a man should find some clothes that fit and flatter him, get a good haircut, and either shave or grow a neat beard. As far as building muscle goes, Charles Atlas started selling this in 1925.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:08 AM
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Population pyramid of the United States Please take a look at this. See that darker blue area at the left side of the bottom half of the pyramid? That's the surplus of boys and men. Because men have a higher mortality rate than do women, the male surplus disappears at around age 48, and then a surplus of women begins age 58, and becomes quite pronounced past age 65. Here's a second link: Pew Survey of Single Americans Also, women choose men who are, on the average, slightly older, which is why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:11 PM
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Every survey I've ever read finds that a larger percentage of men than women want casual sex. The other issue here is that a larger percentage of women than men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:14 PM
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How would that topic even come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:52 AM
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Early 20's is the most difficult age for a man to meet a woman. Most of the ones who are younger than you are off limits, and those your age and slightly older are mostly interested in guys a few years older. ' There's a demographic imbalance caused by the sex ratio at birth, which is on the average 105 boys for every 100 girls. That's most of the issue. Young women are slightly less interested in finding a relationship than are young men. Something new is that a surprising percentage of women y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:32 AM
1

That explains the incel language that I keep hearing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:18 AM
1

Just being yourself works for a lot of guys, but it doesn't work for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:59 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:52 PM
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I still don't have good handle on what exactly red pill beliefs are. Does anyone have some sort of consensus as to what they are? It seems like every time someone here mentions a red pill belief someone else says that it isn't correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:39 PM
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Let those two groups (not) have each other. Stay off of those toxic sites, they're only reality for a small portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:37 PM
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The only unconditional love is that of a parent for a child. You may not like that child very much, but you are always there for them. No adult should expect unconditional love from another adult. If someone becomes abusive, he or she has no right to expect to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:18 PM
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At the end of the day, what does your "alpha" lifestyle get you? You wind up being the creepy old guy that the young women laugh at and try to avoid your advances. Sounds nihlistic to me. You're welcome to make fun of us, we have no respect for you or your opinions and don't care what you think. We have two beautiful daughters in their early 20's. Believe me, they would have nothing to do with the likes of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:49 PM
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We weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:38 PM
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You're very kind to say that. The design is straightforward, the base is 2x8 pressure treated pine, and the uprights are 4x4 pressure treated as well. The second level is 2x6 pressure treated support beams. It was all held together with carriage bolts, and the siding and flooring put on with deckmate screws. When my daughters had outgrown it, we disassembled it and moved it to another family's home. The only part that had to be replaced were the shingles on the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:35 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:30 PM
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Thanks. It was fun to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:30 PM
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I'm invested in a relationship, 27 years and counting, so I'd say I'm committed. My wife was a SAHM for a number of years, I have no qualms about being a provider. I see some postings on the sub referring to a family man as a "beta provider" and I just shake my head. I paid for dates during my dating career, I open doors, offer my companion my umbrella when it's raining. If there's something that needs to be done that's somewhat unpleasant, I do it so my wife does not have to. I spent two and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:03 AM
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Different people have different realities. I'm old, I've seen a lot of lives over a long term. People have a wide variety of experiences depending on your life situation. If you're a member of the LDS church and are faithful to it, good luck staying single. I'm fairly well in touch with a number of my high school classmates, and even within a small group people's life experiences are very different. The kids whose family situations were stable with intact families tended to get married in their …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:19 PM
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Being a good person is not a detriment to finding an LTR, and is a positive for staying in one. For hookups, I have no idea, I never was interested in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:01 PM
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My wife and I have two daughters, who are now grown. We are both of the opinion that anyone who would voluntarily become the single parent of an infant and can't afford full time help either has no idea of what she's getting into or is seriously deluded. This is not to say that no one is successful at being a single parent, but it's not something any rational person would volunteer for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:05 AM
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The only people I've heard say that men and women have the same libidos on the average were a few feminists, and not all that mamy. That whole cock carousel thing and having a ho phase assumes women's sexuality is very similar to men's, which it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:16 AM
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Having a world population of 8 billion isn't sustainable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:34 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:26 PM
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They’d go out with him for a while and then break up with him. I assume you’re referring to the mythical “Chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:23 PM
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Having a low paying, low skill job and not working towards building a career. Spending his free time playing video games and smoking weed. He and his friends making whale noises when an overweight woman walks by.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:18 PM
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I have two daughters in their early twenties. From what I can observe, how they interact with young men their age isn’t much different from how my generation interacted. The biggest difference is that they interact virtually as well as in real life. Their biggest complaint it that men their age can act immaturely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:02 AM
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What does a contrived talking phase consist of?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:18 PM
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No. They go on dates and start doing things together. Generally, this either progresses to a relationship or they stop seeing each other one on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:13 PM
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Granted, but I saw my friends start dating in the same manner. I used to run with a group of friends. None of us dated each other. Occasionally someone new would join the group, and sometimes that person would start dating another member of the group. I saw the same thing on my mixed doubles team. Shortly after I joined, I started dating the woman I’m now married to. I invited one of my coworkers to join our team, and shortly after he joined, he met and started dating the woman he married. I sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:06 PM
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There are women who have dreamed about their wedding since they were girls. I've never heard a man say he had any interest in a wedding, but plenty of us wanted to get married. My input into the wedding could be summed up in two words: "Yes, dear". That was fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:44 AM
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I suspect it’s different depending on your location. I’m in the USA, and almost all the women I dated, we were acquaintances and I asked them if they’d go on a date after one or two meetings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:12 PM
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Couples who get married for the sake of having a wedding usually get to have more than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:01 PM
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I have two daughters who are in their early 20s. They are not chasing these mythical top 5 percent men. One was dating an Army second lieutenant, the other one was dating a fellow student, broke up with him, is now dating a recent grad from the college she is now attending. Her best friend is dating an engineer who works in a local factory. My neighbor has a 30 year old son, who recently married his long time girlfriend and they are starting a family. Your initial premise in incorrect. I believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:32 PM
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You're telling someone you don't know that why she felt what she felt was not actually why she felt it? You know what isn't attractive? Arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:40 AM
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Is a woman who is promiscuous also desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:57 AM
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On the average, there are 105 boys born for every 100 girls if sex selection is not being practiced. (China, India, Vietnam, Azerbaijan) There is almost always a surplus of boys and young men, and a surplus of elderly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:03 PM
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Not all of us accept Incel mythology as how the world works. My observation is that it's ridiculously incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:44 PM
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I'm not really seeing this as a situation all that many of us would find ourselves in. All the women I knew in my 20s who would have been potential girlfriends, I didn't know in my 30s. None of the men I knew were what you would call players, and almost all the women I knew were looking for a LTR. Now, it's possible some of them were hooking up, but I sure didn't see any evidence of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:04 PM
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I'm not saying they can't do it, I'm saying that they're rather horrible people. It's a good think most men can't do it, if you think dating is hard for young men now, think what happens if a sizeable percentage of older men marry young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:56 PM
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I agree, most people do match with someone who is similar aged. The guys I was referring to here as being douchey are those that think they need to trade their current partner for a younger model every 5-10 years. Here's my nomination for that kind of couple, his assholiness Donald Trump, and Mrs. I don't care, do u? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:11 PM
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I don't agree that golddiggers are held in high esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:39 PM
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I've been married for 25 years. I'm surrounded by other families who have been married for 20 plus years. There are some douchy guys who think they can only be with a young woman, but they're the exception. Besides, unless that guy is something exceptional, young women won't give them the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:17 PM
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As a general rule, in any heterosexual relationship, the couple will have as much sex as the partner with the lower libido wants. I also read that on the average, approximately a third of women have a libido that's equal to what the average man has, so most men are going to want more sex than they get. It's still more than the vast majority of men who don't have a long term partner get.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:03 AM
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Submit to a man? Are you a Duggar?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:59 PM
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I'm a boomer, and this is incorrect. You'd have to go back to my father's generation to find that. You'd also not like the lifestyle that those high school graduates had.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:05 PM
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"the ability to socially dominate" WTF does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:09 PM
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It would have been both of us juggling, but I'm better suited for it. She would have been very frustrated and felt like she was missing out. She currently works from 7:30 to 4:00 five days, and has a 40 minute commute each way, and she complains that she's "never home".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:48 PM
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I didn’t crave a stay at home wife. I wanted a wife to love and love me back. The one I found wanted a family and I was agreeable to having one , so we had two children, and we had enough resources for her to greatly reduce her working hours, and for a five year period, not work at all. It’s worked out very well. We had less money but our household was less stressful than a two earner one. I don’t think my wife would have done well if she had to juggle a full time job and young children at the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:21 PM
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I think you added 1+1 and got-3. My wife was basically a SAHM for 15 years and it worked very well. I went to work, dealt with finances, yard work, and home repairs and maintenance. She did most of the childcare, cooking, and shopping. We had less money than if she had worked, but a much more relaxed home life. Oh, and when both children were preschoolers she had someone help clean once a week, so no, not a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:40 PM
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Look at a population pyramid. There are more women in the US because women live longer than men. The female surplus is made up of women in the 55 and up age groups, who overwhelmingly are widowed or divorced and have no interest in finding another partner. At the other end of the scale, nature provides 105 boy babies for every 100 girls. If you'd like more info, Wikipedia has a page for the demographics of nearly every country. What you've pointed out might work if you could convince men in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:23 AM
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Won't. There's still a surplus of young men, 4 or 5 percent of men will be left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:09 AM
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Mo partners, mo problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:17 PM
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I met my wife at 39. My issue was that I had a very difficult time meeting age appropriate, unattached women. Of course, when I did only a minority were interested in me, and there were a few that were interested in me that I didn't find to be a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 12:12 AM
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My maternal grandparents had a wonderful marriage, while my paternal grandparents had a miserable one. Both stayed married until my grandmother died. People of their generation generally did not divorce, they just suffered through a bad marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:49 AM
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Best figure I could come up with is that 41 percent of first marriages in the US end in divorce. It's higher for subsequent marriages. The US has one of the world's highest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:44 AM
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Once I graduated from college, I never heard anyone mention anything about a partner count, and that includes women that I dated. It's just not something grownups talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:55 PM
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The great majority of elderly single women are divorced or widowed and report having no interest in finding a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:53 AM
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There is a surplus of young men and elderly women, and that is why there are so many more young men who are single and looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:50 AM
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The one positive thing about having children later in life is that you should be in a better financial position. When we married, my wife owned a home and and a modest amount of equity, and I owned a townhouse that I'd paid off. We sold both, bought a bigger house but had a modest mortgage payment. I was making a good professional salary and my wife was for the most part a SAHM for the first 15 years of our children's lives, and that made all of our lives much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:15 PM
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It's not optimal, but early 30s isn't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:02 PM
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They're going to have to push those guys out of the nest. If I had a son like that, I'd find him some sort of blue collar thing to do. I have a sister who was a perpetual student well into her 30s, and she didn't really find a career until almost 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:58 PM
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It's not optimal, but that's what happens when you don't meet your spouse until later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:52 PM
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From my anecdotal experience, young women tend want to get an advanced degree at an early age, and as parents you will still be contributing to their financial upkeep longer. Young men tend to get to work sooner and either skip the advanced degree or get it later when they are self supporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:51 PM
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Between age 30 and 35 women's fertility declines approximately 10 percent. The more severe decline starts around age 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:49 AM
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That is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:33 AM
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I was 44 when our youngest was born, my wife was 40. That child is now 22, and is on schedule to get her bachelor's next year, I will be 66. Fortunately, both my wife and I are in good health and employed. Our eldest is two years older, is currently working a low paying job that gets her some good experience, and then will be starting her Masters degree next fall. Particularly if you have a daughter, there's a real possibility that your child may not be self supporting until age 25. Assuming you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:31 AM
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I would define it as the dominant partner making all the substantive decisions with limited input from the submissive one. For those if us in the US, the Duggar family comes to mind. This sub having a lot of red pillers who seem to think that relationships are mostly about sex, naturally the idea of being submissive in bed comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:24 PM
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I was 39 when I met met my wife, and she was 35. We met through a mutual interest, which was tennis. The had a professional career, owned her own home, and had a car that was fully paid for. Does that sound like she was living "as a child"? Don't you have any adult women relatives? This sounds like you don't know any women. Did you get influenced by red pill "thought" and not compare it to what you see in the world around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:49 AM
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Yes. You look for someone who you find attractive, and hope that they find you attractive. When that happens, you start dating that person to see if you're compatible, having similar attitudes and values. if that's the case, you start thinking about making it permanent. I get the impression that redpillers are mostly concerned about their sex lives, when it's only a component of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:02 PM
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This is one of those situations where life is inherently unfair. Whether or not she wants to carry the pregnancy to term is her choice. That’s one of the reasons I never had casual sex. If she’s not someone who I thought I could trust to have a long term relationship with, we didn’t have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:13 PM
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When surveyed, widows and divorcees in that age group also say they aren’t interested in finding a new partner. My wife has told me a number of times that if I die before she does, she has no interest in dating. I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:03 PM
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Pitbulls are not necessarily aggressive. What the are is biddable, they will do what their owner asks of them, even to their own detriment. If you train a pitbull to be aggressive, it will be aggressive. If you train it to be obedient and docile, that's what it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:08 AM
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You have to be who you are. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:05 AM
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There's a large population of elderly widows and divorcees who have no interest in finding a male partner, so that's on women to build networks for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:19 PM
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I think that is more incel mythology than fact. Another Pew survey, this time on dating apps. They found that 15% of women who used Tinder were looking for casual sex, as were 31% of men. Most women are looking for a relationship and won't tolerate a man who's not exclusive with them for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:23 PM
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I think that most people hear that there are more women than men in their country, which is true in industrialized countries, without looking at the demographics. When I was a young man, a group of us would occasionally go to a bar. Every time we went the crowd was always disproportionately male. You see the same thing with dating apps. One thing I learned from the Pew survey was that single older women are much less likely than similarly aged men to want to find a relationship. I thought things…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:33 PM
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In total, there aren't more single men than single women, there are more single men looking for relationships than single women looking for the same. Let me explain. On the average, if no one is practicing sex selection, there are 105 boys born for every 100 girls. Now, males have a higher mortality rate at all ages, but for young people the mortality rate is so low that in nearly all societies, there are more males than females up to ages 40 - 60, depending on the country. Once you get past mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:07 PM
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Every survey I’ve seen says that there are more men in the “single and looking “ group than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:27 PM
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Even if that policy were enacted, there'd still be some surplus men. It's a demographic certainty that some men would go partnerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:16 AM
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Spoken like a true red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:47 AM
1

I definitely heard it in entertainment, never once in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:36 PM
1

I've never heard any man describe his wife or girlfriend in that manner. The only place I've heard a phrase like that is in scripted , fictional shows and movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:20 PM
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Maybe in this bizarro manosphere-informed space that's so, but back in the real world promiscuity isn't considered a virtue, and the ideal of men having sex with lots of different women who themselves should not have had many sex partners is unworkable as it is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:25 PM
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To have a life partner. To have a family. To have a regular sex partner. To build an asset base. To have someone to vacation with. To have someone to share the cooking. To have someone to share the household chores. To live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:20 AM
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When you accomplish something, people tend to respect you. Having a good marriage and raising well adjusted children raises the status of both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:17 AM
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I know single people who I have a lot of respect for, but raising a family is the building block of human civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:14 AM
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I've been married way longer than that, and wouldn't trade it for any single person's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:11 AM
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Married people have more sex than singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:10 AM
1

Sorry to hear that, sounds like a place to get away from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:04 PM
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In the real world, being a good husband and father gets you respect, while chasing after women to get their temporary attention is looked at as being immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:19 PM
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No. Internet availability is near ubiquitous in many parts of the world, that doesn't make you privileged. I went to school with a number of kids who were from lower middle class households, I wouldn't describe them as privileged. A couple of them had gotten themselves into legal trouble by the time they got to high school. In the U. S, there are plenty of lower middle class families you wouldn't think of as being privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:20 AM
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You are welcome to assume that, but I would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:32 PM
3

There's a top guy? Who is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:11 PM
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You don't know that they are privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:55 PM
3

Or she might hock all your possessions and use the money to support her habit. I have a friend who briefly tried dealing acid. His own brother stole it from him, and he then realized what a stupid idea it was. Addicts are dedicated to their addiction, everything else is lower priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:26 AM
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My sense of self preservation prevents me from ever having thought that would be a good idea. Hypothetically, I wasn't averse to getting in a relationship with a woman who needed to overcome a poor self image or needed to work on some psychological issues, but a drug addict, no. Where would you even meet such a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:23 AM
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I had just turned 39 when I met my wife, she had just turned 35. We were married 13 months later, when you're in your mid 30s you know what will work and what will not. She was pregnant on our first anniversary but that pregnancy wasn't viable, so our first born came along shortly after our second anniversary. We were planning on waiting two years before starting on child #2, but my wife became pregnant 9 months after the firstborn, despite her still nursing baby #1 AND taking the mini-pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:08 AM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/?single_page=true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:51 PM
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The ages you’ve chosen for fertility decline are significantly incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:33 PM
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This Pew survey https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/ finds that 31% of men and 13% of women who have used an online dating site/app were looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:41 PM
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I'm a boomer. That era you refer to where a high school graduate could support a family while only having a high school education belonged to my parents generation, it was not possible for us. The other thing you have to remember on this is that this was for a lower standard of living. This is living in a 3 bedroom 1 bath house that was maybe 1200 square feet, one car, 99% of meals cooked at home, no air travel, no cable TV, vacation would be driving to visit relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:39 PM
1

How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:23 AM
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That depends, are you an actual conservative or are you a trumpist? If you're a traditional conservative you should do OK, there are conservative women as well. If you're a Trumpist, then the Trump honeys are waiting for you. https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/201609/f_trumpettes_tweets_160930.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg 1
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:43 AM
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There are a number of articles on the internet where both men and women write about going on 100 first dates. I recall one where a woman was determined to meet a long term partner and went on over 100 first dates over a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:10 PM
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I assume that's a hypothetical number, but if a woman who is above average in attractiveness joins a dating app, would she not get at least 100 responses? I realize many of those would be garbage responses, but over a period of a few months, would she have 100 men who would want to at least meet for coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:22 PM
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I just counted all the girls/women who I either dated or am fairly sure could have dated. It comes to less than 50. The last woman I dated has been my wife for the last 25 years and will be my wife until one of us dies. Now if that hypothetical 100 men were all chosen from the inmates of a maximum security prison or were all Islamist terrorists, I can see your point, but 100 men chosen from people you’d consider your peers, if you couldn’t find one you couldn’t form a relationship with, I’d say …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:08 AM
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Later in life I found out that shortly after I was born, my mother told my father that after we children were grown, that she was going to leave him. So, lots of indifference occasionally punctuated with moderate hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:59 PM
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Your username is quite appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:28 PM
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Let's get the terminology straight. The vagina is the body part between the cervix and the external genitals, which collectively are called the vulva. Unless you are a gynecologist, it's pretty unlikely you'll see a vagina in person, you'll need a speculum and a flashlight to see it. If your partner shaves her pubic hair, you can see the labia. Men are easy to bring to orgasm, women less so. Women also are less similar in what they like. When you're with someone new, you're going to have to find…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:41 PM
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Maybe in red pill land that's true, but in the real world a good man is one who loves one woman, and if they have children, provides and cares for his family. Men who run around looking for casual sex are considered immature and irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:48 AM
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What I took from the OP's post is that a woman friend is somewhat jealous of him now that he has a girlfriend, and commented that this woman never tried to "claim him", assuming that this woman wanted to date him. I observed a similar situation shortly after I asked my wife to marry me. We met playing tennis on a mixed doubles team, and my wife-to-be was friendly with all of them and close to two of them. About half of them were married, and a few of them mentioned that my bride-to -be was lucky…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:22 AM
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Latest data I could find was from 2021, approximately three times as many marriages occurred as did divorces: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/marriage-divorce.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:14 PM
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When my wife and I got engaged, I think a few of the other women in her circle were somewhat jealous. It's not that they wanted me, it's that she was engaged, and they would have liked to have been engaged as well. Is this female friend unattached? It's possible that she wishes she had what you now have, not necessarily that she would like to be dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:47 AM
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No, there is not. At all ages, there is a surplus of heterosexual men who describe themselves as single and looking for a partner, and there are lesbians who can't find a partner. Some people are going to be left out, particularly in those places where boy babies are preferred by parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:52 PM
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I think you're extrapolating your feelings on the rest of the population. I've been working for 40 years and I've never heard a coworker complain about his wife. I've also never heard a man say that he had sex with a woman who disgusted him. I really don't know where guys get this sort of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:46 AM
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I dunno, maybe because we're not effing crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:47 PM
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I had two neighbors at different points in my life who had absolutely no difficulty finding relationships. They also gave the worst dating advice I’ve ever received. One of them said I should try meeting someone in the grocery store, the other one tried to get me to sign up for what she thought was a dating service but actually was a phone sex outfit. People for whom something comes easily often don’t know why they succeed, it comes naturally to them. Someone who has struggled usually has learne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:44 AM
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That depends on how easily the woman found her BF. At different points in my life I lived next to two women who had no problem finding relationships. If the successful woman dater struggled but eventually found someone, she's the one to go to, otherwise, ask the guy. The truth it's not nearly so much what you do as it is who you are. If you're reasonably attractive and click with people easily, odds are you find relationships with relative ease. If you're not overly outgoing or a little less att…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:05 AM
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Stop blaming men for Roe v. Wade, it took adding Amy Coney Barrett to the court for that to happen. The dichotomy is liberal and moderate vs conservative and far right NOT men VS women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:59 PM
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Lesbian females do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:53 AM
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So, an alpha male is one who cares for his own pleasure, while a beta male is one who provides for a family, which is the building block of human civilization? Sounds bass-ackwards to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:33 PM
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That's true. My favorite thing is sports car racing. At a typical race you could count the number of unattached women on the thumbs of one foot, so you'd have to do something else as well. Tennis, volleyball, and running have a good gender balance. The team tennis thing is probably the best since you spend a number of hours at each match but only play for part of the time, so there's plenty of time to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:42 PM
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Just some of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:56 PM
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Doesn't matter, they're all wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:23 PM
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We have team tennis leagues where I live. I was invited onto a mens team, and our team joined with a women's team, which is when I met my future wife. In two seasons of mixed doubles, four couples formed, which was about half of all the single members in the team, and two of the couples married. On the idea of being set up on a date by friends, that never happened for me. My wife tells me that she went on a number of blind dates set up by friends, but nothing came out of them. I suspect that's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:18 PM
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The thing about meeting someone at an activity or club is that it has to be something that you want to do regardless of whether or not you’d meet someone there. I met my wife playing tennis, but I’d been playing a couple of years before I met her. I was playing tennis because I liked playing tennis, I didn’t do it just to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:34 PM
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That's a very good way of describing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:16 AM
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There are rather a lot of these sorts of threads here, so it must be important to a lot of guys. I'm not sure it's important that women be sympathetic towards these young men, because they don't interact with many women other than coworkers and family members. Honestly, what I think this boils down to is that these men are at a loss as to how to meet a potential partner. If you don't have a good social network it's nearly impossible, and even then it's not easy. The other thing to remember is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:22 AM
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I was virgin shamed at college, without ever volunteering that bit of information. They looked at me and assumed there was no way any girl would have been interested to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:57 AM
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Thats it. Whenever someone tries imagining what it would be like to be a member of a different group, they always think of what it would be like as a high status member of that group. It's better to be an attractive man than an unattractive woman, and vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:18 PM
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Do you have evidence that supports that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:55 PM
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I've been a dad for 23 years and no one has accused me of either of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:45 PM
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I've read 10 different definitions of what "red pill" means and there's no way I'd ever approve of either of my daughters dating someone who espoused it. That would never come up neither of them would get involved with a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:02 AM
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I have two daughters and I'd tell either of them to stay away from any "man" that followed Andrew Tate. Not that I'd need to, they both have better judgment than to get involved with someone who listened to him or his ilk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:00 PM
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High status people don't necessarily make the best partners. There's probably no one higher on the desirability scale than an A list celebrity, but as a whole they aren't all that good at relationships, if you're looking for something long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:28 PM
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I started out life with a poor self image because my parents prioritized my older siblings wants. I was skinny, nonathletic, and needed thick glasses, so got bullied and ridiculed throughout elementary, middle, and most of high school, so I never tried asking anyone out then. I got to university, tried asking out a couple of girls, got a couple of polite no's, and then received the mother of all rejections a few months into my freshman year, at which time I just gave up. After graduation, I star…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:29 PM
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I was a virgin until age 25, that was bad enough, 30 would have been much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:59 PM
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We're you a virgin at 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:23 PM
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How many men here were told the things that the OP is stating? My parents never told me anything about relationships and dating. I'm not sure I would have listened anyway, they had a terrible marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:05 AM
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There are more young men than young women, and many more elderly women than elderly men. Most single young men are wanting to find a partner, most single elderly women are widowed or divorced and aren't looking for a partner. Also, men are more likely to sign up for dating apps, and outnumber women by a 2 or 3 to 1 margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:55 PM
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I make dinner four nights a week. On Halloween neither of us cook
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:57 PM
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Today is Halloween in the USA. Tradition is that we hand out candy to children who come to our doors in costume. Last night I got out the candy we bought for tonight and put it in a basket for tonight's trick-or-treaters. I took a Twix bar out and put it on my wife's place at the dinette table, knowing that she's going to pack her lunch there the next morning, and she'd have the Twix bar with her lunch. It's nothing fancy, just a little something to where she knows she's always on y mind, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:26 PM
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I said I was trying to get her attention, you came up with "wild gesticulations" and "gesturing wildly". It's difficult to gesticulate modestly inside a car, doing so wildly is out of the question. You're filling in details that I didn't provide, I assume in a way that suits your internal narrative. This happened a number of decades ago, when highways were less busy and cars and tires less reliable, and it wasn't that uncommon for a driver to point out something wrong with your car. Now if you'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:18 PM
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To illustrate that there are good reasons why a man may want to communicate with a woman that have nothing to do with trying to find a date. Normally when you're driving on the highway and another motorist is trying to get your attention it's to let you know there's something going on with your car. Road rage incidents usually occur after some interaction between two vehicles, which wasn't the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:28 PM
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I don't consider this a rejection, all I was trying to do was to try to communicate that her purse was about to go flying. Why would you think this was an attempt to get a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:25 PM
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I certainly understand women's needs to protect themselves but sometimes they take it too far. I was driving and a car with a purse sitting on its roof merged onto the highway. I pulled up alongside of her and tried to get her attention but she wouldn't acknowledge me. Eventually the purse went flying off into the weeds and I continued on. I've always wondered if she got to her destination , went to get her purse, and then realized why that man in a red van was trying to get her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:12 PM
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Considering that dating apps are a notoriously bad experience for average and below average looking men, why did you bring this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:42 PM
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If you have any suggestions for him you should tell him. I’d suggest playing volleyball or tennis and then get on a mixed team. I met my wife on a mixed doubles tennis team.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:49 AM
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It’s most important to have similar values and life goals than to have similar interests. Men tend to have guy interests and women have girl interests. That’s if you’re looking for a long term partner, if you’re 23 years old and not wanting anything long term the it doesn’t matter too much. If you’re planning on staying together long term, you have to agree on whether or not you’re going to have children, that’s an absolute. Second thing is lifestyle, are you planning on staying in one place or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:04 AM
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No, no, no, a thousand times no. Intimate relationships are about mutual respect and affection, to build something mutually beneficial. If the only reason someone has sex with you is that you have power over them, then you are nothing more than a rapist. How do people come up with this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:37 PM
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I’d say he’s more frustrated than entitled. He’s trying to determine how to meet a potential partner and is getting bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:01 PM
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There are instances where women get in a relationship with a man who has a level of status to get to a position, and then kicks him to the curb. It’s uncommon because the vast majority of men don’t have that status and most women aren’t trying to achieve something that would require that status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:54 PM
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The day to day stuff I do, like maintain the yard, shop for groceries, and make dinner aren't romantic, regardless of which one of us does them. A romantic gesture is something extra that isn't required, like bringing home a favored bottle of wine or flowers when there's no occasion. When we were dating, my wife went to my place and put an "I love you" note on my mirror in the bathroom. That is a romantic gesture. Cooking dinner on a Wednesday, which I do, is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:41 PM
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I have to pull on the red card on this one. It's women who overwhelmingly want to have children. I don't doubt that there are women in traditional cultures are forced into the wife and mother role, but that's done by the entire culture, and is driven by the women. The woman I was dating before I met my wife didn't want children, and I was OK with that, it we'd stayed together (she broke us up) I would have been fine being childless, the woman I married did want children and we do have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 02:23 PM
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We're still quite married, and she doesn't think less of herself because she's no longer able to become pregnant, was just a little sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:21 PM
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Hey I'm a guy, you present a problem, I'm gonna look for a solution. If the surgery is too drastic, what about going on Amethyst? BTW, my wife considered being able to create a new human to be her superpower, and was a little sad when that ended, even though our family had been completed years before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:40 PM
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Most women are satisfied with their relationship status. Of those that aren't, many don't like being cold approached, and of those remaining women, most of them either don't find you attractive or are too cautious to accept your offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:17 PM
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That's a good question. Would the male equivalent of you be somewhat feminine or would he be ultramasculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:12 PM
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Wouldn't a ovariohysterectomy do the trick for both of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:10 PM
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Met the right woman. Really, that’s all of it. There’s a certain amount of self improvement you can do, but that gets you nowhere if you don’t meet the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:20 PM
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We live in a large metropolitan area, people move here, so there should be single women around. As far as where to meet women, that’s the problem, they have no ideas left. I’m quite a few years removed from the dating scene, and don’t have any suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:29 PM
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Let me check. I've gone on dates with a number of women, never dated another man. I've had sex with a small number of women, never had sex with another man. I've been married for quite a few years, my wife and I have sex reasonably frequently, still haven't had sex with another man. Posters here talk about "Chads", men so attractive that women want to jump in bed with them. I've never met a man I thought was attractive enough to be such a person. Adding all that up, I have to conclude that I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:02 PM
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There are more of us than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:50 AM
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There's a certain subset of the population that is absolutely certain that men are always privileged in every way, so if a man is having difficultly with something it must be his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:26 AM
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Gender doesn't enter into it, it depends on the friend and what our mutual interests are, and how much time we have available. With most of them, we have jobs and families and we don't have a lot of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:08 PM
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I've had women friends my entire adult life. I've been friends with women who would have liked a relationship with me, but I did not, and a woman who I'd liked to have a relationship with, but she did not. I've also been friends with women where neither of us wanted an intimate relationship, and that's not just physical attraction, I have known women I thought were attractive but didn't feel a connection to, so I never thought about them as an intimate partner. I might also add I never had any i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:24 PM
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I disagree. Most young men who struggle with dating do so because they have a very hard time meeting someone appropriate. It was true when I was single and it's still true. I ran around with a decent sized group of men and women when I was single, and the men in particular struggled to find anyone to ask out. Much more recently, there were two youngish male software developers in my department, and the topic of meeting a potential girlfriend came up. One was in his late 20's, the other in his ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:55 PM
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I'm in the Southeastern U. S.. I was reading an analysis of deaths in the U. S., and what the author said was that there are parts of the U. S. where "honor culture" is prevalent. For people who subscribe to that, any sort of insult or disrespect has to be responded to, or that individual loses status in his community. 20 years ago that would most likely end up in a fist fight, but there are so many people carrying handguns that it can quickly escalate into a shooting. There are certainly murder…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:43 PM
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Where I live, men make up 80 percent of the murder victims, more than 90 percent of those killed or injured on the job, and 75 percent of suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:34 AM
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1: There have always been men who were unable to find partners 2: Nature provides a surplus of boy babies, and unless there's a major war going on, there will be a surplus of young men, and some will be left out of the dating marketplace. 3: An increasing percentage of young women identify as bisexual, and some of them form same sex pairings, which increases the number of unattached men. 4: An increasing percentage of couples are choosing to remain childless, it's not just women who remain singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:08 AM
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John Wayne Gacy? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:02 AM
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El Nope-o
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:58 PM
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If no man wanted them how did they become hoes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:16 PM
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There's a big difference between not wanting to date someone and expressing disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:58 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:50 PM
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Father of two here. IMO, unless you can afford to hire full time help, only a crazy person would volunteer to be a full time parent of a young child. My wife was basically a SAHM for the years our children were less than 12, and we both were pretty busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:09 PM
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No, that’s being friends. Friendzone is when you’re still hoping for a romantic relationship with that person instead of just being friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:57 PM
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If your spouse is the stay at home parent, it's very important for the working parent to make sure the stay at home parent has some time of their own. My wife got Saturday off. She could sleep late, I made sure the children and dog were fed and taken care of, and I made dinner. Honestly, compared to working, staying home and providing childcare and meal prep was enjoyable, plus there was not chance of getting laid off :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:55 AM
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My wife was a SAHM for most of our children's first 15 years of life. Once the oldest could drive, she started working part time, and eventually went back full-time. We've been married 25 years and are rock solid. No woman who wants to raise a family full time is lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:46 PM
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I can't try to change your view. I keep hearing the term "Chad" thrown around here, but I can't say I've ever know a man who would qualify as being one. There seems to be a fair bit of support for the whole incel mythology on this board. My experience in the actual world is quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:25 AM
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There's a Pew survey out there that also found that older divorced and widowed women generally had no interest in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:14 AM
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Do you have evidence that most women do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:27 PM
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I did learn to ride, or at least as much I could, being a first grader on a full sized quarter horse, but it did nothing for me, I had no interest. I think there's a reason that girls tended to be horse crazy and boys did not. There was one time when my sister and I, probably ages 7 and 9 were riding double and bareback, her in front with the reins. When my sister cued the horse to trot, I started to slide back since I didn't have anything to hold onto, and the horse took exception to someone tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:41 AM
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Shows and movies are entertainment, not suggestions how to live, and aren't to be confused with real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:39 PM
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Ugh, my sister too. I spent most of my early childhood being dragged to the stable multiple times per week so my sister could ride, plus get dragged to parties and kept up until 2 AM, then went home reeking of cigarette smoke and woke up the next morning with a headache. Hey, but at least I learned an important life lesson, that I didn't count, it was what everyone else wanted that was important, just the very beginning of my self esteem issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:43 PM
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No, it's not easy for most singles to find dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:31 PM
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I'm a guy, have one sister. She was a royal pain growing up, bossy and critical, and overly dramatic even though she got her way almost all of the time. She's rather different than most women, so there's nothing I learned about women in general from her. As adults, we have a very good relationship, when she's in town we have a lot of fun. She is a bit of a misandrist and I have to call her on that occasionally but it really doesn't affect how we interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:06 PM
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What’s the difference between a preference and a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:31 PM
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It surprises me that so many of the posters here subscribe to incel mythology. My experience of how the dating world works is so different from what some here describe. Yes, I'm older, but I have two daughters in their early 20's and I'm familiar with their dating scene and it's nothing like what people here describe. The other thing that I don't get is how many posts are made while most of the English speaking world should be working. Are there a lot of shift workers on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:34 AM
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There are 105 boys born for every 100 girls, so there are more young men than young women. Men have a higher mortality rate at all ages, so there are more older women, but when you sum that up there are slightly more females than males. A recent development is that young women increasingly are identifying as bisexual, and those who are in a same sex relationship aren't dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:49 PM
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I met my wife through tennis as well. I got one of my coworkers to join, he met his wife on that same tennis team.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:50 PM
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Nah. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/314181#Relationship-status-influences-sexual-desire-over-time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:34 AM
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I dated a woman for a few months whose interest in sex was similar to mine. She had just come off of a bad breakup and saw me as a safe haven. At the end, she decided we weren't a good match and more or less stopped responding to me. She was right, and shortly after we broke up I met my wife, and she met her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:34 AM
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Emphasis on "can be". Some are, most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:07 PM
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No one is going to force you to make the first move any more than anyone forces a man to approach a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:54 AM
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I've never heard anyone use overpopulation to justify abortion, it's always personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:29 AM
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I'm also not getting where a woman is increasing the risk of being raped either. Let's say you're sitting at a bar, and a man walks up next to you, getting ready to order a drink. He orders a drink, and you strike up a conversation with him. After a short convo, he asks you if he can text you, and you say thanks, but no. Is he going to rape you there in the bar? Doesn't the risk of going out with someone you don't know occur when you're together in a private space? How is the risk any different …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:38 PM
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For #1, you forgot, may be accused of harassment. https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/25664-me-too-metoo-sexual-harassment-poll-survey-data?redirect_from=%2Ftopics%2Fpolitics%2Farticles-reports%2F2019%2F10%2F04%2Fme-too-metoo-sexual-harassment-poll-survey-data
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:24 PM
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Some do, some don't. I have two daughters. One is an excellent cook, I'm not sure the other one could make scrambled eggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:26 PM
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Most of us husbands have other responsibilities around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:21 PM
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We have a housekeeper every other week, so neither of us cleans the whole house.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:20 PM
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My wife makes me a birthday cake. For unilateral things, that's about it. Most of the doting/caring goes the other way. Speaking of lunches, a few years ago I was sitting in the lunchroom with a male coworker, we both had bag lunches, when one of our female coworkers came in and said, "isn't that nice, your wives made lunches for you." We both burst out laughing, and I don't remember exactly what we said, but it was something along the lines of "It isn't 1956, we made these ourselves." I can't i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:09 PM
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When I was single the issue was finding someone to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:01 AM
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Yes, annoying the person you're wanting to date is surely a winning strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:53 AM
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Wow, that's pretty much useless for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:02 PM
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There are not enough women to go around, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:57 PM
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Is the reduced birth rate due to people not forming couples or those couples having fewer children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:49 PM
2

Not true women? That's an impressive rationalization. If they are not true women, what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 12:41 AM
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Really depends on the individual. There are some people that might meet in an art gallery, and others at a tractor pull, and they wouldn't do well at the other person's activity. It's also important that it's something you'd do even if there were no chance of meeting someone, because the odds of meeting someone at any one instance of those events is low. Some activities are very gender biased. My favorite thing is sports car racing, which it might not surprise you is rather one sided. I'd say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:26 PM
1

A 22 year old named Donna? That's a silent generation name?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:17 PM
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I'm guessing you missed this line: ​ Little did I know that the women's captain thought one of her team members might be a good match for me, and the put us together to play a match. 13 months later we were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:08 PM
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You're assuming the only reason I started taking tennis lessons again was to meet women, and that was not the case. I'd played tennis on and off since college, and wanted to get back into it, so I restarted lessons. I didn't realize that there men's tennis teams until I was invited to play on one, and I didn't realize there were mixed doubles teams until I was invited to play. Also, each season of lessons was two months and leagues formed every quarter, so this was about 18 months total. After I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:00 PM
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I feel you, brother, I've been there. I grew up in a dysfunctional family where my sister's wants were prioritized and mine were ignored. We moved frequently, every time I was starting to make friends we moved again. As an adolescent, I was bullied and excluded at school, had thick glasses and was skinny and unathletic, so no sports for me, and through all of high school I met up with some classmates maybe four times, all the rest of the time I spent at home. Got ridiculed for being a virgin in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:27 AM
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I don't care. I like women, I love my wife and daughters and have many women friends and coworkers. I don't want to do without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 02:08 AM
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I don't see any men here arguing that they don't need/want women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 11:13 PM
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I was 39 when I met my wife, we were on the same mixed doubles tennis team.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:45 PM
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After I moved back to where I'm living now, my social group was tiny. I started taking tennis lessons at a local municipal facility. After a couple of seasons of lessons, I was invited to join a men's tennis team. After the men's season was over, my team captain formed a mixed doubles team with a women's team that his girlfriend was captaining. Little did I know that the women's captain thought one of her team members might be a good match for me, and the put us together to play a match. 13 mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:45 PM
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It's not all that uncommon for young men to develop a case of "oneitis" on a young woman, but most us get over that by our early 20s. I feel for you, having to put up with this fantasy woman in your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:00 PM
4

They're dad apparel. Also OK when hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:35 PM
2

If I had been an orbiter I’m fairly sure she would not have come to my wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:15 AM
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Seems like there are a lot of guys who have confused incel mythology with the way real life actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:13 AM
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Strongly disagree, I've been friends with single women who I'd have preferred to have been dating, but she wasn't in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:52 AM
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Really, nothing at all. My parents marriage was in bad shape from when I was a baby. I later found out that shortly after I was born, my mother informed my father that she was leaving him once we children were grown. I have an older sister who was difficult as a child and a teen, very bossy and verbally abusive. This was well before the internet and for that matter, cable TV was not widely available, so information came from the library and entertainment was network TV, controlled by the parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:44 PM
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I really doubt that they had feelings for me since we'd not done anything that would engender those sorts of feelings. One of them was dating a friend of mine for a number of months, which is how I met her, and after he broke up with her she and I were still friends. It's not like I was flirting with either of them. In your post, you spoke of the man having to approach you in a certain way, being flirtatious but not excessively so. You do realize that many men never get approached in that manner…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:03 PM
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I don't doubt there are others who are like you, but I can assure you there are lots of others who aren't. I've been friends with a few women I'd liked to have dated, and if they had changed their minds about me I would have gladly started a relationship. I've been in the opposite situation as a few times, where one of my female friends after knowing me for a while expressed an interest in something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:14 PM
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Are you sure that this isn't specific to you? People tend to extrapolate their feelings and experiences on the entire population, and that usually isn't valid. There's lots of guy here that assume all men want casual sex. I don't, and I know lots of other men who didn't either. This "friendzone" thing is overblown. I've met women I'd liked to have had an intimate relationship with who only wanted to be friends, so that's what we were. When I finally got engaged, this friend was the only person I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:56 PM
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There's a surplus of young men and older women. ​ BTW, most single women don't have tons of guys chasing after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:42 PM
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I would say you don't know many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:32 AM
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It depends on an individual's situation. If you're at least average looking, have a good social network, and well adjusted, you can expect to find one or two women in the average year who will date you. If any of those conditions is missing, especially the social network, you might be batting .000.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:00 AM
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What would "Stacy treatment " consist of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:33 AM
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Um, no. Substance abuse is a sign of weakness. The essence of masculinity is responsibility and getting things done. If he has a family, and a married couple counts as a family, family comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:32 AM
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First and foremost, there are lots of women who will not stay in a long term relationship without marriage, so refusing to get married limits your choice of partners. One you are married, you gain respect, especially from your in-laws, which makes your chances of staying together greater. If there will be a time where one of you will not be working, it's advantageous to file your taxes jointly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:12 AM
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For the overwhelming majority of the world's men, while it is biologically possible to impregnate a woman at an age that most women could not conceive, it's of no value because he would not be able to find a woman who wanted to have a child with him. Is it possible? Certainly. Will he get the opportunity? No. Is it desirable? No. So of what value is it? None.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:41 AM
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I see. And what percentage of 80 year old me are capable of attracting a woman less than half his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:06 AM
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And this is a realistic scenario for what percentage of the men in this world? Emotions have nothing to do with this. I was 40 when I married, my wife was 36. Our second and final child was born shortly after my 44th birthday and just before my wife's 40th. Her first year at university she developed a life altering medical condition that basically cost her her first year's classwork. She's doing well at school now but takes a little lighter load than does the average student. She will be getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:04 AM
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It's maybe five years different. You need to get your offspring self supporting before you can retire, and it's not uncommon for them to be 23 or 24 before that happens. Men need to be done by age 44 or 45, women by age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:21 AM
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Being a nice guy doesn't require someone to roll over and play dead. I open doors for my wife, handle unpleasant situations that she would rather not, and deal with those things that husband's traditionally do, such as getting cars fixed and handyman things. We don't always agree on things, and for those things we disagree on, if it's something I'm more knowledgeable about, I make the final decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:52 AM
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I'm a parent, my wife and I have two daughters who are now in their early 20's. What we could do for them was, when they were young children to provide opportunities to socialize, and to help them when they ran into difficulties, such as dealing with a bully. The most important thing is to instill in them their own worth. People who consciously or subconsciously believe that they are lesser than everyone else are apt to be excluded or victimized. If the child is in an activity or group where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:05 AM
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The short answer to this question is that women in their late 20s are in relationships with men in their early 30s. That, and that there's that five percent surplus in young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:19 AM
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You are hypothesizing, and your conclusion is not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:52 AM
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Retirees won’t be moving to busy, in demand cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:06 AM
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Declining GDP does not necessitate declining GDP per capita, and a shrinking population will take some of the pressure off of housing prices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:42 PM
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The fertility crisis is that there are too many people on this planet and having a fertility rate below the replacement rate for the next century is a positive event.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:28 PM
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She got married, just like I did. Last time I heard they were still married. I'm still married as well, the difference is that my wife and I have two daughters and my ex remains childless, as was her preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:41 PM
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Women don't manipulate us, our hormones do. It's tough being Nature's bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:28 PM
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Five percent isn't minute, especially when you apply queuing math. The percentage of gay men is a few tenths more than lesbianism. You're also neglecting that the percentage of young women who identify as bisexual has grown considerably in the last 10 years, while the percentage of bisexual young men has not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 04:26 PM
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No, it has much to do with demographics. Nature provides a surplus of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:26 PM
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Here's the population pyramid for China. The dark blue is the male surplus for each age cohort that has more men than women. The dark red is the female surplus for each age cohort that has more women than men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#/media/File:China_population_sex_by_age_on_Nov,_1st,_2020.png
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:20 PM
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Intel does not mean virgins,, it's anyone who is capable and desirous of sex, but has not had sex for an extended period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:10 AM
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Assuming they're not the cause, yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:59 PM
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Absolutely. But it's of no value to most women because they don't want those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:02 AM
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No. There's a surplus of young men, some of them will die without finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:52 AM
3

So, what percentage of women are interested in "short term relationships, flings, casual hookups, FWBs and situationships"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:36 AM
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Shortly after our second daughter was born, I got a vasectomy. It’s no big deal, about as painful as getting a tooth filled. I’d recommend it. One of my coworkers wound up with a third child he didn’t want because his wife wanted a third child and “forgot” her birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:51 PM
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I met my wife when I was 39.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:29 PM
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Guys are bitter because there are programs to bring women into IT? I’ve been in IT for 40 years and this is news to me. It’s intimidating for some women to walk into a classroom full of guys. Some of the best developers are introverted and reserved as young people and making a more welcoming space will get some women into IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:31 AM
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Sessile If I'd waited for a woman to respond to me in such an overt way, I'd be a 65 year old virgin. The women I've successfully asked out were not nearly that forward about it. Some of that may be generational, but I don't think so, I have two daughters in their early 20s, and I'm sure they would never be that overtly sexual and physical with a guy they just met. I should add what I, my daughters, and all the women I dated were looking for a first date that might lead to a long term relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:23 PM
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How would a man know that you are treating him like a brother, and is this the same for all women? That's one of the things that men never know, is she just being friendly, or is there a possibility that we could date? It's something I struggled with when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:30 PM
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Honestly, it’s not nearly so much what you do as it is who you are. What works go the tall, good looking guy won’t work for a short, skinny one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:16 AM
3

You just described personal ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:08 PM
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That’s the original definition of incel, now it’s mostly used to describe someone who frequents incel forums, has decided he’s incapable of finding a partner, and acts like he hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:27 PM
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Where do you live? Outside of Russia most countries are seeing moderate growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:13 PM
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I didn’t say it wasn’t common, I said it’s not the norm. Every survey or study I’ve ever seen on this topic finds that 15 to 20 percent of young adults have hooked up, so 80 to 85 percent have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 06:29 PM
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Hook ups are not the norm any more than subscribing to a "pill" mythology is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:33 PM
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You sound like a sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:39 PM
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No, I would consider it to be an insult. To me "fuckboy" is just a horndog who is thinking with his gonads. Also, lying to someone to get into her pants is despicable behavior, don't fool yourself by calling them white lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:45 PM
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Lots of men are not interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:58 AM
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The difference between male and female homosexuality is a few tenths of a percent. Of more significance is the increase in bisexuality among young women in developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:19 PM
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I'd say it's more likely that the opposite is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:50 AM
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"All the girls walk by Dressed up for each other" - Van Morrison, "Wild Night"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:23 PM
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Provided she has a libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:16 PM
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I was a skinny young man, and I got no attention at all. Very frustrating as nothing I did to gain weight worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:48 AM
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I didn't, thanks for the info.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:58 PM
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No. Leftists and wokists want peoples choices accepted. In the U. S., 97 percent of dental hygienists are women, and a similar percentage of automobile technicians are men. What the left is working for is acceptance of male hygienists and female technicians. There are some stupid feminists who see a well paying male dominated field and demand that more women get hired for those jobs. I've worked as a software developer my whole life, and most developers are men. I've known a number of women deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:16 PM
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No. The underlying problem is that nature provides five percent more boy babies than girl babies. A correlating factor is that nature provides young men with a very strong libido. This is not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:37 PM
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Honestly, that's normal, most women don't like being approached in random places. You have to get yourself in social situations where chatting up other people is the norm. Tell us about what it's like where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:53 PM
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When I was of bar going age, the crowd was way male heavy, probably 3 or 4 to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:49 PM
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There's a surplus of young men and a surplus of elderly women , at age 40 the number of men and women is similar in the U.S, and slightly male heavy in most other developed countries. For that reason, I would say that the men's never married rate is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:43 PM
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Depends on what you consider success in dating. To me it means finding a loyal lifetime partner. Maybe you consider success to be having lots of different short term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:45 AM
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There are a few others I can think of. The first one that comes to mind is do you fit in with the people where you live? When I first graduated, I took a job in a small city in the southeastern U. S., and I come from a large city in the midwest. I might as well have been from Mars, I didn't fit in at all. A sales rep came into my office one day and he was remarking how the town where I was living was almost its own subculture. Also, good social connections are invaluable if you're trying to meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:48 AM
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I have two daughters, and they hate being approached in non-social situations. If you're going to be approaching women in random places, you really need to read which ones want to be left alone, and that is almost all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 08:12 PM
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The "fertility cliff" you're referring to is overblown. Much of that idea comes from fertility clinics mostly treating older couples. The reason for that is that infertile couples try on their own for a number of years before seeking medical assistance. If you read the Wikipedia article on human fertility, one study estimated that women 35 to 39 are four percent less fertile than women 27 to 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:21 PM
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There are many more reasons than just high standards. Opportunity is another. Do you have a decent sized friend group? That helps, there are lots of couples that formed as friends of friends. Can you smile easily, or is your natural expression deadpan? Did you grow up in a well adjusted family, or was there an undercurrent of hostility? Were you treated well at school, or was every day a different hell to be endured? As an adult, do you live in an area where you fit in, or are you thought of as …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:46 AM
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When I was a teenager my mother told me I was an unattractive baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:24 AM
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The first age cohort where there are more single women than men is 50 to 64, and the difference is only two percentage points. The other salient point is that women over 50, and particularly those over 65, are mostly divorced or widowed, and disproportionately are not interested in finding a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:45 AM
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Demographic inbalance, there's a surplus of young men. and a surplus of older women, at least in most developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:41 AM
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