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Which isn't an excuse to perform immoral experiments, or a defense of those who do.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 02:24 PM
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If the principle of science is amoral why do we always practice science with ethics in mind? You could argue that anything is amoral- a you can build a house just as well if you use slave labour, or run a perfectly functional state as a violent dictatorship. You don't get to just ignore something wrong because you want to benefit from it. Any good scientist would condemn an immoral experiment, even if something useful was learned. No-ones introducing morality where it doesn't belong, they're jus…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 03:05 AM
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Science isn't amoral, pretty much every experiment with moral implications has to pass an ethics board. Every action with consequence is subject to morality. Amoral is just a word people use here to skirt past the shittyness of their actions.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 02:04 AM
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What evidence do you have for AWALT?
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 12:05 PM
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"Women are children" was a sticked mod post for several days at the top of this subreddit. I'm sure everyone who read it is now greatly self improved.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/15 12:46 PM
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To be clear, I meant if a woman decides to give her consent without pressure, as in genuinely changing her mind. Not being pressured and bugged until she says yes just to get the guy of her back- I don't know if that's always rape, but it's sexual manipulation and sleezy as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 03:28 PM
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No, that means she's changed her mind. The other way round is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 02:42 PM
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I don't care about the other basic moral stuff he said, if a woman says "no" and you have sex with her, that's rape. Rape is sex without consent. Saying "no" is denying consent. So when OP "pushed past a straight no" he raped someone. Salespeople dont have sex with thier customers so they aren't rapists. This is really quite simple- fuck someone who says no and you're a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 11:09 PM
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Elizabeth I was assumed to be weak and stupid, and many of her subjects thought she wasn't fit to run the country and a King (any king) would have been much better. After all, until last year it was English Law that the throne should pass to men before women- an indication that it was thought men were superior to women. One of Elizabeth's most famous quotes was given as part of a speech given to the army at Tilbury: "I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and sto…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 10:30 PM
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I think the implication of the blog is not "raising girls to know how to maintain a house"- all kids should be taught that- it's "raising girls so they grow up to be home makers" Also, it only talks about raising girls as home makers. There's nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be a home maker but the blog reinforces the idea that women should be staying at home and men should be out to work.
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/14 03:53 PM
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So if she says the word "no"... she isn't actually saying no.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 03:41 PM
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Then why do so many individual industries exhibit a pay gap as well? It's just a little hard to believe otherwise when all the evidence I can find suggests that women are getting paid less.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 03:24 PM
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You people keep saying this, so I googled a whole bunch of government salary statistics and I don't know if I'm missing something but I see a goddamn gap here. Narrowing but still recognisable. All I ever hear is that "it's a myth" and not once have I seen a single bit of evidence to that fact.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 03:08 PM
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Because of two things: 1: I like women and theres a lot of sexism around here 2: The twisted thinking and broken logic hurts my brain.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 02:54 PM
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No, because it's wrong to hurt people. Selling cupcakes for 7p more isn't hurting anyone.
/r/MensRights24/07/14 02:42 PM
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Let me guess- It's because I'm in denial right?
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 09:53 PM
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See there it is again. Someone dislikes us? Must be because he can't handle it, not that he doesn't like it. Don't you see the assumptions there?
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 09:33 PM
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I'm not really talking about the validity of their argument, but the intentions of the feminists. People are assuming they're hypocritically ignoring equality and I just thought a bit more reasonableness was in order. And I've never been shown these statistics- looking at the stats for the UK published by the office for national statistics it looks like a decreasing but still recognisable gap.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 09:32 PM
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History is complicated. Women aren't a minority. Men didn't come over and conquer them, and women were never a downtrodden but proud subculture. I'm sure if they ever did attempt an armed uprising they'd have spectacularly failed but the reason they didn't is because the patriarchy (which I use in the historical sense only) didn't oppress with force but with thought. In pre-industrial europe women were seen by society- everyone in society- as weak, stupid and not capable of leadership and enterp…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 09:06 PM
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I'm a rational but angry person posting in a fucking terrible subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 08:39 PM
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Are these people your neighbours or something? Because you seem to know everything about them with absolute certainty. It's an interesting way to argue- to simply state your conclusion as fact. Use the word "Obviously" a few times and you can just be right all the time. I didn't realise that this is how you people have managed to keep the jerk going for so long. What an interesting learning experience in human stupidity.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 08:25 PM
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Don't you just love it when they set up Straw Man arguments? "Immediately sets up a fictitious argument in order to attack to prove himself right, thereby committing the straw-man fallacy as well as an ad hominem attack for good measure" There's a good reason she doesn't want her boyfriend to be like you.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 07:59 PM
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Most of you miss the point of these sales. The point is to help men understand what it's like to be financially weaker because of your gender. It doesn't feel very nice, and a lot of people get angry about it, but the purpose is to help men understand better what it feels like in a harmless way. I'm at uni and the femsoc did this, and after all the men who showed up got really angry about it they explained it quite well and in the end sold the cupcakes at the same price to everyone. The purpose …
/r/MensRights23/07/14 07:33 PM
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And if the women decide they don't want to pay that price and offer to make amends by contributing as much to society as they can, you'd have to deny them the opportunity and tell them to go raise the children, for the sake of consistency. The reason that men have made all the advancements and inventions throughout history is because women weren't allowed in the workplace. It's unfair to hold against them the idea that "patriarchy" has given them so much when it was also the thing stopping them …
/r/MensRights23/07/14 07:25 PM
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It's supposed to help men understand what it's like to be at a financial disadvantage because of your gender. It's designed to upset men so they can empathise a little better.
/r/MensRights23/07/14 07:23 PM
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Not entirely sure how this falls under the "discrimination" tag
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:51 PM
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How exactly is this a mens rights issue? This isn't /r/rage you know
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:48 PM
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I'm not arguing for or against the legitmacy or usefulness of either of these terms. "Shreodingers rapist" is logically sound, technically speaking if you don't know someone they might be a rapist, but not really that much use unless you want to live your life mistrusting everyone. You are right in saying it shouldn't just be applied to men but that's still a bit of a leap to associating the entire male gender with rape. No sensible person would ever do that. I do believe there are serious issue…
/r/MensRights21/05/14 11:54 AM
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It depends in the context and what exactly your saying- for example I could say "muslims are planning to overthrow the west". While technically accurate, there are a group of Islamic people doing that, it's still inaccurate and unfair to implicate the whole group like that So when people here say "feminists want men to be rapists" that isn't a level headed criticism, its a flimsy strawman argument.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 09:48 AM
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I see a distinct lack of advocacy for clear communication I agree, we should be teaching young people not to be afraid to stand up to people who are taking advantage of them. I think the core problem is the idea that men and women communicate in fundamentally different ways and have problems understanding each other. But as you said, whole other topic. I'd qualify it as MRAs disapprove (not necessarily hate, though there's no doubt some hate involved) of feminism as a movement rather than femini…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:22 AM
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Ok, I'm pretty sure you're not reading my replies. Both matriarchy and patriarchy are words that lack the nuance to describe modern societies. They're not good terms. I don't use them. You brought them up so essentially you are now arguing with yourself.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:16 AM
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Alright I'm 50/50 on whether you're a troll but just in case you're not here we go: Man up and quit being a wuss about how you are portrayed in media I suppose all those people who develop eating disorders should just "man up" as well? You can't just dismiss the issue by telling people to ignore it. And I said that many of these issues also affect men, although it is arguable that women are more frequently sexualised. Nothing to do with the fact that women have to take off for a year when they a…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 11:53 PM
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Off the top of my head we have the sexualisation of women in media and the related damage to self image, the fact that fewer politicians and CEOs are women which leads men to have more power, the social assumptions that certain things are girly and certain things are manly, and the double standard where women who sleep around are labelled sluts and men who do the same are socially rewarded. Then there's the really bad stuff like human trafficking, women not having the vote in certain countries a…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 03:57 PM
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Schrodingers rapist is a way of saying "seeings as you don't know them everyone you meet could turn out to be a rapist". This post explains it better than I do. Even if you don't believe it's a useful term it doesn't mean "all men are rapists" Rape culture is a way of saying "our society today condones, normalises and/or exuces rape and sexual violence." Even if you don't think this is true, it does not mean "all men are rapists". These are terms that are often misinterpreted and misused but the…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 03:48 PM
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I'm not saying it's anything more than a conspiracy theory, but it's also not completely unreasonable. I think we're in agreement there. A conspiracy theory seems like the word for it- unlikely, but the suspicion is based in reality. The problem is that it is treated around here like absolute fact- it seems to the rest of reddit like you really do think all feminists are just dying to be raped so they can complain about it. This victim blaming attitude stems from misrepresenting the suggestion o…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 11:34 AM
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Firstly, the actions of feminists are clearly not above criticism and I won't try to claim that. Adherents might get mad yes but judging by my Karma lately MRAs are most certainly not above that either. If you're claiming that a large number of women are out there wanting to be raped so they can win lucrative lawsuits? That's not even possible in the UK for one thing. A much more likely explanation of the "teach men not to rape" campaign is that it is a response to the idea that rape is the faul…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:32 AM
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The agent orange files are not evidence of an actual conspiracy to eradicate men, they are evidence that people spout hateful nonsense on message boards, given a cool sounding name to scare people into thinking those nasty feminists are after them. Radical feminism has never been mainstream. Most were always either liberal or Marxist feminists. People too often think Radical feminism = feminism, but that's like judging the entire mens rights movement by what I find on r/redpill. Furthermore, if …
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:17 AM
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You're proving my point. What is so illogical about a desire to adress the problems facing women? It's the exact same logoc as the mens rights movement. You say "they fail at logic" and "they refuse to believe". Thats the kind of wide generalisation that gives Mens Rights a reputation for intolerance.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:09 AM
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I understand your valid criticism of certain feminist organisations but that simply isn't the way it's talked about around here. People just say "feminists", usualy without specifying a number or group of them, on this sub. It's become a place where people bash feminism, and actually talk about the advancement of Mens Rights much more rarely than they should.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:04 AM
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So women deserve to die because they aren't doing the right jobs?
/r/MensRights19/05/14 09:00 AM
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Well my beard and adam's apple might make it hard to believe for one thing
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:07 PM
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Personal insults are not the way to win an argument.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:05 PM
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They still know that they're homo sapiens. English is actually a pretty sexist language, for example "Man" is used to refer to all of the species, and words that refer to everyone usually have man in them- like manhunt, layman and chairman. Then obviously you woman and also female has male in it. This is due to our language developing when men were totally dominant in society. The etymology of "woman" is literally "man with a womb"- something that makes some woman uncomfortable because they see …
/r/MensRights18/05/14 05:53 PM
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That's the first time I've heard someone saying there are "some" misandrists in feminism. It's usually "all feminists are misandrists" around here. You say that people unfairly use the views of a few MRAs to demonize the entire group, yet that's what this sub routinely does to feminism. I always thought the point of r/againstmensrights was to treat MRAs like MRAs treat feminists. Doesn't feel good does it?
/r/MensRights18/05/14 05:37 PM
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The thing that makes other communities look down on men's rights is your views on feminism. It's as simple as that. I know you might not want to hear this but the harmful comments are things like things like "They [feminists] WANT men to be rapists"- that got 9 points comment on a front page post today- nine points isn't that many but saying something like that would get you downvoted to oblivion anywhere else. This sub has a reputation of being an anti-feminist hatefest based on a weak straw ma…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 05:30 PM
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The worst thing for me is that it was signed "sincerely, women". Frankly I'm impressed that all 3.5 billion of them had the time to OK this.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:21 PM
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That's just plain false. You only take the views of radical feminists and outright misandrists using feminism as a shield, and then use them to demonize the entire movement.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:11 PM
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Feminists are not calling for the eradication of men. Expose all the hateful rhetoric you like but calling someone a nazi is still a slur.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 03:10 PM
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The patriarchy hasn't technically existed since women got the vote, but it atill can be a good term to describe male dominated enviroments where even though there's no legal barriers to women, men end up making all the decisions anyway. If you look at the UK government for example, most members of parliament are still male and there's more resistance to female MPs so it still makes sense to call it Patriarchal. It's not the most accurate term but it's far from being a "bogeyman". And calling fem…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 01:21 PM
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Slightly off topic: when women start rounding up men and gassing them, then it will eb acceptable to use the term "feminazi". Stick to "radical feminist" or "misandrist" or you sound like a bigot.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 01:13 PM
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Holy crap when did they fire my aunt?
/r/MensRights18/05/14 01:10 PM
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This is exactly what's wrong with this sub. You see an article on some news site no one's ever heard of, which says some group called "morality in media" (obviously to be taken very seriously) has some extreme views about porn. Your conclusion? All feminists want men to be rapists. Don't make fun of feminist logic while your own is so laughably skewed. Stop looking for fringe extremist bullshit to build up your strawman with and get back to actually adressing mens rights issues.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 01:08 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and respond as a feminist. Hear me out. We don't think its "cool" or "edgy" to not value womanly things like cooking/cleaning/having kids. We don't look down on people who want to do those to things we just want them not to be the expectation. It's insulting to be "put off" of we don't happen to want children. And we certainty don't think we're better than anyone. Total respect for childbirth, its hard and painful. We recognise men are naturally but thay physical strength is p…
/r/MensRights01/05/14 12:09 PM
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Well it's pretty important to at least to try represent feminism positively. Thank you :)
/r/MensRights01/05/14 09:39 AM
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Well I hate to break it to you but I've been advocating for male victims for years and never been called a traitor except by trolls. Mens rights has a very skewed image of feminism precisely because of threads like this that demonize it.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 07:58 PM
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I can't defend the actions of every feminist ever, and Men's Rights has a pretty bad image itself. A lot of people outside this board think that MRA's are closet misogynist that use "hur dur bullshit feminist logic" to hide their prejudices- and based on some of the replies here it's not surprising. Also I'm British so I tend to try to distance myself from the attitudes of mainstream American anything.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 01:50 PM
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Feminists, MRAs, civil rights activists, people who advocate for the disabled are all egalitarians. To be any of those things you have to believe in equality. All these groups share a core ideal but fight for different causes. That's why any sensible feminist is also an MRA.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 01:28 PM
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It does matter- to take the above example: The Taliban is an Islamic group The Taliban are terrorists However all Muslims are not terrorists. So you couldn't just say "Muslims are trying to destroy America!" While very techically true it implicates a lot of innocent people.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 06:14 AM
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You're right, only one type of person says misandry isn't real- dumbasses. As an actual non tumblrite feminist I'd like to say misandry exists and is terrible.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 06:11 AM
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Stupid young tumblr people can't stomach not being victims because they're self centered drama queens. Please don't judge the entire feminist movement on the opinions of three stupid people. If I judged mens rights on three sexist men I'd have a pretty unrepresentative image of it.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 06:09 AM
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Hi. I'm a feminist who believes in equality for both sexes. I also try to actively support the mens rights movement. The term for reasonable, non sexist feminists is usually "liberal" and I really do regret you don't see more of us responding to this. So I'd like to just come out and say right now, explicitly, that I do not consider man hating radicals to be real feminists. To promote feminism while ignoring Misandry is harmful to the reputation and credibility of all feminists. Far from reaping…
/r/MensRights30/04/14 06:03 AM
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Hi, one of the other feminists here. I have a big problem with it. Rape is wrong. Misandry is wrong. Sexism or gender related abuse is wrong in any form. With any movement there are the people who actually follow it and the misguided people who male it look bad. The second group should be disowned by the first. If someone came on this subreddit claiming we should kill all female babies becuase some of them will grow up to rape men would you accept that person as a "real" MRA? No of course not. A…
/r/MensRights30/04/14 05:47 AM
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Devil's advocate mode activate I think that we should deport all mexicans because they smell funny. The reason I beleive this is because I am a patriot. Devil's advocate mode disengage Does that make me a real patriot or a racist disguising my bigotry as patriotism? If you don't subscribe to the core ideals of a movement (the "feminists" in the OP do clearly not beleive in gender equality) you are not entitled to belong to it and should not represent it. We actual non rediculious feminists are t…
/r/MensRights30/04/14 05:40 AM
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Assuming every member of a movement is biased is a baised opinion in itself. Most feminists are not baised towards men. I'm a feminist and I think female on male rape is horrible and male rape victims deserve as much sympathy and support as female rape victims. Am I not a real feminist? if you were being sarcastic well... sorry but it's hard to tell
/r/MensRights30/04/14 05:31 AM
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They don't believe in gender equality. They're not feminists. It's really that simple.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 05:29 AM
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