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How do you increase your chances of meeting someone special by extending your penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:21 PM
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You might want to reply to OP then and not to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
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Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm of the opinion that giving up on marriage because it's the safe bet is stupidly defeatist. And i am of the opinion that it's stupidly naive to expect marriage to last a lifetime. And if you don't expect it to last a lifetime, you are knee deep in the wrong concept for you. Committed relationships are what you want to do, not marriage. The kind of relationship you have or do not have does not determine if you are happy or not. If i recall the result of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:03 PM
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Well, overall yes, but in individual cases men and women are able to not go after what they want in the moment for a greater payoff from abstaining from it, either in the moment or as a long term goal/effect. People on average can't even stop themselves from eating too much (gaining fat) even if that is not in their interest, as the immediate gratification and reward output for eating is too great. Women CAN withhold sex even if they are super horny in the moment. Just as you can go on a diet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:57 PM
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I expect him to break the boundaries that would be the norm for a given situation, demographic, culture, etc. and then i signal him it was okay to break the norms but refraining from acting in accordance to a norm breaking. People call that flirting. You might want to look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:48 PM
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For sexual stimulation it's not important. The study shows what penis size does to the aestehtic valuation, when the whole man is included. So harmony and proportions come into play. Ask your partner if she wants a penis extender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:44 PM
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How many? What is the basis for you statement that it's so many of them that i can't say they are the exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:41 PM
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That has nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:37 PM
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But also, if you like to wear this type of clothes because you want people to look at yout fit body and you don't complain, I can respect you. You realize that the only women who complain about the wanted attention they get are the women who get even MORE atttention for their bodies AND virtue signalling AND victim mentality? Yes, we do it for attention, but some of us are out for even more attention. The fact that you don't see right through it, is the reason women do it. it works. They get wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:36 PM
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The overwhelming majority of men who are in relationships are nice guys. What you observe is sampling bias. Those angry men are nice guys, yes, but they are also sexually unattractive, insecure men who have no social skills. They are invisible to most women for sex or relationships before the women even get to see that they are also nice guys. The problem of nice guys is not being nice. It's being nothing that women require for sex or relationships. The amount of niceness does not determine the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:34 PM
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No, I mean the literal rapists, murderers and theives that get more consensual sex(yes, the rapists too) than the average incel-type I addressed this in my post. You should have read it instead of abandonning it the moment you got triggered for not being actually nice. Somehow women are so good at sniffing out the secret monsters that wholly encompasses the latter population, but the former population and their documented criminal records just get missed a lot of times. Fancy that. Again, i addr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:34 PM
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What do you mean? Most niceguys being sociopaths who try to cover?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:20 PM
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Studies show that penis size cannot be "too large" for aesthetic reasons. The optimum for penis size regarding how it looks on the man, was outside the expected range and off the charts in this study: <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:18 PM
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Because niceguys will stop reading because they can't deal with the realization that we look straight through their facade and see their fragile and insecure personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:53 PM
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The anger of self proclaimed nice guys isnt because being nice didnt get them a girlfriend, is because they were told that being a good boy was the bare minimun to be liked by women at least Three points: (1) Nice guys are not nice. They THINK they are nice but what they are is insecure and this leads them to doormat behavior in order to please others so they are accepted and liked by others, where they can't be secure and confident in their own judgment of their person. Every time a nice guy do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:45 PM
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If what i bring to the table is something you would value and recognize as something "brought to the table" depends on your subjective valuation and personality. There is no universal value that you won't be able to neglect as "this has no value for me" or "i bring that to the table myself, i don't need it". I have a top 2% IQ, am extremely reflected and have an curious and sceptic mind with a high need for cognition. This might be the greatest quality a man can look for, worth nothing or even a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:24 PM
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Penis size is about as important as breast size. Super large of both is fun for the rarity and unusual experience, but hardly something most people want regularly. Super small is okay for the rare occasion but not somthing most people want regularly. 95% of the expressions are satisfying and nobody picks their romantic partner by putting a very high weight on the IDEAL breast or penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:50 AM
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I know about the incel uprising fantasy but instead men are going to be sedated with porn and other entertainment. Men CHOOSE to sedate themselves, because similar levels of instant reward can be had with basically zero effort. You get the juice without the squeeze and you take this route. It's less optimal than having a girlfriend, but it's close enough in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:42 AM
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And what men gain from this ?! You need to go back to page 1 of human evolution. Nobody chooses to be heterosexually attracted to women or women to men. We don't choose to fall in love. We don't decide to have a sex drive. If you have the power to do a calculation and come up with "the juice is not worth the sqeeze" and then ACT ON THAT, what is your fucking problem? Not squeezing is your best condition you could be in. But no, you want the juice, without having to squeeze. What have your romant…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:39 AM
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You seem to live in a fantasy world where men don't want their wives to be sexually adventurous in bed. Why would a man need to make a point like this? He could just say: "i am not looking for something serious with you." and that would be absolutely fine. People are not that harsh and do understand how feelings are hurt. I don't tell men that i like to sleep with them but their genetic material seems too weak for my standards to consider them relationship material. THis doesn't happen. Men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:19 AM
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What do you need elaboration on? How being socialized and not autistic allows you to read the cues that differentiate a smile that signals "i want you to approach me because i am interested in you" from the "i smiled to signal non-hostility, empathy for a shared emotion in a situation, understanding, cooperation, wanting you to feel good about something you just said, etc."?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:01 AM
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In most cases, when men go after toxic women they don't complain, they understand. You don't understand. WOmen are not into being treated badly. They are into the characteristics i described. THey complain about being treated badly, not about the guy riding a motorcycle. It's your stereotypical thinking, that a guy who doesn't follow the law and rides a motorcycle will also mistreat his girlfriend. THat is not following though. Men who ride motorcycles are NOT in the "crazy" section of the graph…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:58 AM
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Oh man, don't be pedantic about stuff you very well understand. This does not help your point, it's not an argument. Are you autistic? ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:44 AM
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Yea the same gender who can't shut up about not needing men's protection . What do you want to argue now? Evolution or current feminist culture in the west? Becase women still find men who can protect attractive, but they want to make a point that they don't NEED that protection currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:32 PM
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The single piece of evidence is, that before autism, we didn't have these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:31 PM
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people have never encouraged women to express vulnerability but somehow are obsessed with pushing "the strong and independent woman " narrative strong and independent with regards to being able to live on their own financially. Women ARE vulnerable due to biology, pregnancy, child rearing. They expressed ttheir vulnerability and need for protection since the dawn of time. What the FUCK are you on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:17 PM
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In the contrary, we always portray women as a complete master of emotion Who is "we"? What kind of weird bubble do you think you live in? Women are the more neurotic sex. Women on average are less in control of their emotional state. Have you seen women and their emotions during menstrual cycle? Nothing about women screems "master of emotion" and nobody in the history of mankind couldve ever though that women are masters of emotion. What kind of fucked up and sad relationships have you been in, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:15 PM
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Dude, sorry if you have problems with social cues and being adapted to normal social behavior. It might be autism or just a lack of being socialized. Years spent alone maybe. You are making a fool of yourself with those threads. Yes, men and women smile at people without that being a sign of "i am attracted to you". The "not autistic" part comes in, when you can identify which smiling is the "i am attracted to you".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:05 PM
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Women have begun behaving in a way that is completely counterintuitive to evolutionary biology I don't know about you, i don't see men not being attracted to women anywhere. Whats is unattractive to the other sex is whining on online forums like you do. Why do you act so completely counterintuitive to evolutionary biology and portray yourself as weak, whiney and not in charge of your own situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:01 PM
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Dude, having sex is not some hard to achieve holy grail. The ugliest dudes ever have sex. Lifetime sexual partner count only weakly correlates with physical attractiveness in men. The most feminine men have plenty of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:19 PM
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Women are wary and careful around men because they want to ensure their safety. Okay cool, that sounds reasonable. ... Is there a piece of the puzzle I'm missing? The puzzle you seem to miss is that being careful around men included getting away from the men that you call "creeps". If a woman is creeped out by you and you leave, that is not her missing a good guy. That is her being defensive and careful for a reason. This thread sounds like the typical "niceguy doesn't understand he is the probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:32 PM
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You are making up a topic that doesn't exist. Men and women want trust but men and women also know there is a limit to trust. Still, not being trusted feels bad, even if it's understandable, that trust can only go so far before it becomes naive and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:09 AM
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There is an ongoing rhetoric online that women will have sex with men they barely know, do the nastiest of deeds with them and then seek a man to marry who they will never do those deeds with. Why? Yeah and we have the same for men, too. It happens. You also masturbate to the weirdest shit that you would net do to anyone in person or yourself. You choose your partners. If they don't want to fulfill your sexual needs, don't be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:07 AM
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Having grown up in an oppressive, abusive household and force-fed the belief that I'm a useless sack of shit for a couple of decades, never given any support and raged at whenever I tried to do anything for myself... Wait, this isn't normal. This doesn't lead to a normal view of self. On top of that, you are autistic, if i recall correctly. So you have enough stuff going on with you to definitely not be normal. It's not about what is your fault or isn't your fault. But how do you catch up when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:51 AM
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Why are normal men ignoring other normal men, so they all are lonely? Isn't that a problem they can fix themselves by just talking to other normal men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:43 AM
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80/20 rule is not a core belief? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:01 AM
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Romantic interest is not based on similar interest. You are putting yourself in the hobby-zone if you think you can "win her" by sharing a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:43 AM
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Why would a normal and well adjusted man be extremely lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:12 AM
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If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want? Lol, nobody is playing the mating game fair. All that said, is it really wrong to play the game the same way it is played against you, like you can't really blame the sugar daddies, the guys faking being rich, the guys filling girls with false hope, men being methodical with their flirting. Deceiving sexual partners is as old as the mating game itself. It's still morally wrong according to our current morals, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:34 AM
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Nobody, exactly. Nobody is asking, nobody is interested. Everyone just expects that everyone has sex if they wanted to. You can be sure, that a man who is 25+, who has never had sex and isn't asexual, will ALREADY be treated differently than "normal man", because virginity at that age isn't randomly distributed. There are reasons this guy doesn't get with women. And those reasons can be noticed before he tells you he is a virgin. Nobody is asking obvious incels if they have had sex. They are alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:28 AM
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I truly believe a long term lack of sexual attention in men drastically affects male behavior to a point that it can easily be detected in most cases who is and is not a virgin. It's the other way round. The behavior was the reason this man doesn't get sex to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:22 AM
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Not true. Circlejerking is about the topic not about the sex. You can circlejerk under the automoderator all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:17 AM
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Confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:04 AM
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Sounds like you are asexual or have some weird trauma connected to sex. If you are happy the way it is, don't dig up anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:02 AM
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Are you able to read to rules and the explanation? " No N-count, looks, or feminism (not related to dating) posts These is currently a moratorium on these posts. There are designated weekly threads for these topics, check the sticky threads." We have had enough of those with no development in arguments, so they are paused until there is reason to believe we need them to discuss new ideas. Circlejerking affects all ideologies and pills. There is no point in a discussion/debate forum to have guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:29 PM
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As a society, we're basically told that (especially for men) if you have sex, that makes you a good person, while not having sex makes you a bad person WHO THE FUCK KNOWS IF YOU HAVE SEX OR NOT?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:22 PM
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I am just wondering why they deny this phenomena? "when he is a little toxic heart eyes." You just said they post this on social media, so how are they denying it? As for why some women are into signs of "bad" traits: because they go along with sought after traits. Not following laws = also not a pussy who gets told what to do by other men or women. Riding motorcycle = willing to take risks to enjoy life and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:38 PM
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First of all is your friend a girl, all girls can get endless dates No, a guy obviously. If it’s a guy, we are talking online dating hinge users here, and unless he’s very attractive, he can’t get a date everyday from dating apps with zero status. Well, he is attractive in the face, but has zero muscle, fat at the stomach and just 5'9. So you tell me if that makes him overall attractive or not. He is certainly not tall, not rich, not high status, not super masculine, not fit, etc. My point is, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:08 PM
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Bare minimum changes with desirability gap in the two people. A man more attractive than i am just has to be interested in me as the bare minimum. A guy who is a lot less attractive than i am, who wants to get a chance, needs to offer me the world as the bare minimum. A man who is on my level should match my effort as the minimum. More is nice but not expected or needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:59 PM
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I'd put my money on a Mad Max scenario, rather than your utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:39 AM
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There are some women who are A-Ok with their partners using porn, but there are many others who see their husbands or boyfriends porn use as cheating lite Then why don't they break up if it's cheating?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:28 AM
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Essentially, men in monogamous relationships are expected to turn down advances from other women, there is no leeway given and it's seen as indefensible. It's the same for women. Also, those men are in control of how they handle it. If they don't care if she gives out her number, then it's obviously not a problem. Different rules CAN exist for individual relationships, but i doubt that women who give out their number would have an issue with their boyfriend giving out his number as well. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:18 AM
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But they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:07 AM
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You don't seem to understand that "significant penalty" doesn't mean there are no dates happening past 30. Even if 99% of dates would vanish at 30, the 1% is still enough to explain what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:01 AM
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My point is, nobody is underestimating women's physical strength. We can see it everyday when women can't do basic strength related tasks that are nothing to men. Arguing that a target that doesn't defend itself could be harmed by a cat or a woman is not a sign of physical strength. You can scratch an artery open with no strength at all but just a sharp finger nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:56 AM
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Maybe realize that your perspective if affected by your depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:53 AM
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YOu just proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:47 AM
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I’m 6’1” fit classically handsome and got multimillion dollar home and a super car and range suv. Every girl is your type, at least will give you a chance, or will flat out do anything you want to have you. Yeah, and those single handedly date ALL the women on online dating simultaneously, while making up 0% of the Tinder population? but I can get a new date or sex nearly everyday of my life. My friend is average height, no wealth, renting a flat, currently unemployed, 20yo compact car that is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:47 AM
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desire doesn't mean they are exclusively dating and fucking them, which is the core belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:33 AM
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I will laugh at you when you "mess up" that pickle jar lid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:30 AM
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No, and stop calling everything a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:58 PM
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None of red or blackpills core beliefs has science and data to back it up. It's all ideology. In fact, as you pointed out, all data shows that what the manosphere thinks is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:58 PM
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Ultimately women have to decide, do they want a submissive man, or do they want to submit to their man? WOmen want to submit to a leader. Not to just any man. You are not a lead just because you are a man. Women don't submit to weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:55 PM
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I think your solutions require way more "being a normal part of society" than those men can provide. Talking to women is impossible, if your only social contacts have been other incels on discord, chatting about their favorit video game. If you lack social skills and never learned how to read social cues, adapt to social norms of a situation, never read or exchange information that is relevant to mainstream women, what the fuck are those men going to do in those: " and then talk to a lot of ppl.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:50 PM
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Girls knowingly enter situationships with desirable men that already have 3-5 sexual partners. If they are at least 7+/10 girl most girls on apps are participating in that same behavior trying to land a guy they perceive as high value or more fun than the average guy who is just trying to find a date. Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:41 PM
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Because he has lost touch of reality. He is living in a toxic bubble. The wall is physical decay by age, not "security/insecurity" or having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:37 PM
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Are you familiar with with population-level statistics and distributions? If i say humans have 2 eyes, would you also say "nobody ever had just one eye or none, are you serious?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:34 PM
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You know damn well that your chance to get a date from yoga class is higher than online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:25 PM
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If your relationship just lasts 6 month, you are the issue in your dating life. 6 months is nothing for still being on the app. It takes a long time to find a suitable partner, unless, you just take tthe first one that doesn't run away and break up after 6 months because you didn't understand what a matching partner looks like for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:24 PM
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Are you suffering from depression?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:08 PM
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We have recently passed a threshold where the majority of women are childless at age 30. This path completely neglects the fact that women are at peak fertility around 20, and fertility is a shorter window in time than they realize. By the time they reach 30, 33% of women are no longer able to conceive. At 35, they are clinically considered "geriatric" in fertility terms. Source: i just made this up to have a debate around fake information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:03 PM
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How can STD's reach a all time high when young people are having less sex? Because people don't care about STDs. HIV is manageable and no longer the scare it once was. There is widespread hormonal contraception going on. People just have unprotected sex more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:05 PM
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https://datepsychology.com/how-attractive-are-red-pill-influencers-ratings-from-a-large-sample/ ;) I mean, it's understandable to want to be average and to think of yourself as average or above average. People tend to rate themselves 7/10. 90% of people think they are above average in driving skills. But the problem is, that a fringe minority thinks their situation is affecting a majority of men. That doesn't help them, because it makes them think there is a great unfairness and injustice happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:31 PM
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Assortative mating works in a situation where there is 1:1 gender ratio. Dating apps obviously are not even close to this, and that's why apps are fucked for men. Dating apps are just a tiny fraction of human mating. It's not even a closed off system. People are on dating apps AND on other ways to find potential mates. YOu can go to a yoga class and enjoy the 10:1 female to male ratio, if you want to have a balance to your dating app usage. Don't use dating apps, if you don't belong to the group…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:17 PM
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That is the wall No, it's not. You will not marry anyone, as long as you hate yourself and everyone who doesn't suffer as you do. Imagine just being able to change yourself and be happy and find a relationship. How blessed you must be, to be able to make a change. Do it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:02 PM
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Sadly, i think the people do understand it but still think it's their best way to whine about their situation in hopes that others think they might have a point and fuck them, just to avoid being a moral failure, applying a double standard. It's this kind of desperation i read from the guys here. Waiting for a gotcha moment, as if that would help their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:01 PM
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first, you are not an average guy. Second, how do you know what average guys experience in their relationship life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:17 PM
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Pretty sure you crossed the “obnoxious” threshold when you out of the blue accused all awkward men as autists. I did not. That is waht you want to read into it to feel offended and to have some illusory way to strike back at me. Are you and autists? Does that trigger you? Or are you a man who gets often called a creep or offending women when approaching, and you want to make a point that this happens even if not autistic? What is your stake in this game? Why are you so emotionally invested?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:04 PM
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I am saying that the wall is not real insofar as it is a change in dating preferences. Women do admit this. Dating preferences change over time, regardless of the wall being a thing as well. You mistake changes in lifestyle and preference for family building, settling, with "hitting the wall". I am sorry. I am sure this was clear in your head but could you explain it a little better? I don't really get it EXACTLY. I just used your post and chained it together. It's bullshit. My interpretation of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:03 PM
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What would happen? Nothing, because that is a basic understanding everyone shares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:54 PM
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it's more relevant than the rest of causes. Autists are more relevant than the rest of the causes in this subreddit. I have never talked to more autists in my life than on this sub. It makes sense. Autists have dating issues, autists need rules and a framework of how mating dynaamics work, so they come to ask questions, go for red pill step by step guides, or are attracted by black pill because they think it's hopeless (which it arguably is for most autists).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:11 PM
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Dude, do you understand evolution? Going for the less fit partner because it's easier is NOT what could have evolved. Every living things tries to get the best partner they can possibly get, mostly overshooting their own value on the mating market. If you are an 8 in desirability, you willl go for the 8 in desirability. If you think you have no chance with the 8 and rather take the 6 because she is easier, i have news for you: you are a 6 and not an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:09 PM
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Look up the studies yourself. You surely are used to typing "big boobs" into a search bar. Just make it scholar.google.com instead of pornhub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:06 PM
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You are looking at it with an unsuccessful man perspective. How about you show me some sources that show how men take women blow their desirability as long term romantic partners from online dating? Because you can't. Whoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:05 PM
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You do not seemt to understand how implications work. If i say: "coffee discolours your teeth", i do not imply that ONLY coffee does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:04 PM
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You haven't attended a biology class in your life, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:46 AM
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Women can understand the situation men are in, because they are in a similar situation, when it comes to finding a romantic partner that is on their level. Op is comparing apples to oranges when it comes to getting dates. He is comparing his position as an overall low desirable man to his sister who is highly desired for sex but not for relationships. It's like if he would have dates with homeless girls because they want a warm meal, while he looks for casual sex. You think the Chet is happy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:31 AM
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The issue with doing that is if u do that when the person gets to the finish line too many people want their attention then. I am not on the stock market, hoping for a fat payoff for my investment that was very risky to begin with. I am taking an equal desirability partner with an equally promising development projection. Low cost investments are for people who don't have money and hope to win big. I don't need to take risks, i want safety in the value of my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:56 AM
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People do care about quality for romantic relationship partners. That is what evolution works on. You would need a hell of an exception case, where a man accepts a romantic partner way below his league, because it's easier than getting an equal level partner. Assortative mating, mutual mate choice, those things work overall. Men fuck women of lower desirability, women fuck men of higher desirability, but for romantic relationships, they get together with equal partners, or they don't get togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:53 AM
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What is "better" is up to debate, as average size breasts are preffered over large breasts on average by men. THe other poster explained the effect on breasts, even without breastfeeding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:41 AM
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Marriage as a mutual subscription model. No shared accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:15 AM
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Men who want to date long term but don't wantt to get married or have kids will have girlfriends who do want the same. Easy and simple. The very few exceptions to that rule can leave or accept the situation. There is absolutely NO NEED for everyone to agree or disagree with that kind of relationship. What "your thoughts aobut this" is, is absolutely irrelevant. You decide for yourself if you want would accept that relationship situation or not. No need for everyone to share the view of what thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:13 AM
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So, according to what you have posted on reddit, you, who has no contact with women or dating, who hates himself, everyone who is successful in dating and has a happy life, who gave up on himself and just sits at home speculating on what people who actually do date experience, says the wall is something women who are insecure or want children chose instead of it happening to them at a certain age or levle of physical decay. You think women, when they choose the wall due to their insecurities or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:00 AM
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Are you living in the West? Which form of modesty is shamed in the West in general, and not just by a subgroup with opposing values? What is the moral stance on modesty in terms of character and appearance? As far as i can tell, the USA is based on flaunting your wealth, consumerism, materialistic mentality. Modesty is the opposite of US-mentality. When someone says “the quiet part out loud” it’s hardly what they actually believe - so please enlighten me, what part of that statement was part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:38 AM
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But that is not what people do. They take the best they can get, not the easiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:29 AM
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Why do you think i said or think it's ONLY an autist problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:26 AM
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Attractiveness only weakly correlates with number of sexual partners in a lifetime. You are wrong. If ~50-60% of men in the 20-35 age bracket are single in a given year, but only 15% don't have sex in a given year, then the majority of single men do have sex. As this is US data, there is no legal paid sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:23 AM
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Do autists have a problem witth behaving according to social norms in a given situation with another person? You are currently a perfect example of being obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:02 AM
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You don't seem to understand that mate choice is inherently discriminatory. I cannot be another way. I don't date black people, because i am not attracted to their physical features. I don't date autists, because i am not attracted to people who can't read social cues. I don't date gingers, people in wheelchairs, people with low IQ, women, gay men, bi men, trans men, fat men, short men, conservative men, non-native speakers, christians, muslims, vegans, etc. The list goes on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:56 AM
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If you boil it down, there isn't much difference though. Your sister wants to start a family with a man who is on her level. She has zero applicants for this position. Just like you. And since you offer your personal story and her personal story as basis for assuming how it is for men and women: my little brother goes on dates with 3 new women per week from online dating, if he wants. No, they are not on his level and they are not relationship material. They are the Chets. They agree to somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:51 AM
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Some people are just not competitive and prefer to not play the game so they can't lose. Competition is something that one has to be able to endure, because it's confrontational and has losers. Not playing can be the better outcome for your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:33 PM
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Well, there are pickmes who sabotage the team effort but it's still a viable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:32 PM
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In which case, why do many men encourage showing off your material worth and riches? if this is about showing value, shouldn’t modesty be preached to both sides? Preaching is for sheep who want to follow without thinking. I don't see how your point has ANYTHING to do with what i argued. I made the point that different rules apply to men and women, because they ARE different and they value different things in each other. So no, there is no argument for expecting both sexes to follow modesty in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:29 PM
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To add to this, this is moreso about targeting and examining belief systems, double standards, etc (so don’t come at me with “i’m not attracted to men so it isn’t even a discussion”) yes, male and female attraction differ in a lot of ways So there is no double standard. Men and women do not follow the same rules, valuation, standards because they are not the same. It's two distinct groups so different rule apply to them. Men go topless, women don't. DOUBLE STANDARD! No. you realize this is not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:04 PM
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I want to be approached. I want a rejection to go over smoothly. I expect people to understand social norms and not violate them. So you autists out there do have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:01 PM
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Singleness means celibacy and no female attention for average men. This is not the case for women. Men and women have the same sex frequency. For men and women aged 20-35, for the years 2020 and 2021, for both sexes 15% had no sex, 7% had sex once or twice a year, 13% had sex once per month, and the rest had sex several times per month to several times per week (which is mostly relationship sex). So no, single men are not celibate and single women show pretty much the same sex frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:59 PM
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lets say, hypothetically, that this cultural shift happens, that women start taking the initiative and become bolder in their pursuit with the same proclivity men are expected to. I think the consequences of this would be disheartening for many men: it would probably result in women just fighting even a minority of very attractive men. Why would you rely on random women approaching you, when you can just choose the women you are interested in and approach them yourself, instead of waiting and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:01 PM
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Due to decreased supply of women and increased demand, women generally get a more ideal man than they would be able to get from other means. If that was the case, don't you think more women would use online dating to get better men than they could get offline? It's a ridiculous claim. Why would men on dating apps accept less desirable women/less attractive women as romantic relationship partners, when they can get equal attractive women outside of online dating? You theory about what goes on in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:14 PM
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You realize women also have an intrasexual hierarchy similar to the male dominance hierarchy? We dress sexy for ranks in this hierarchy. It feels good to know other women see you and know you are high up the hierarchy. And of course, this hierarchy is dominated by how desirable we are to men, just like male dominance hierarchy is mostly a contest for who is most desirable to women. But men still feel good about themselves for doing things that gives points for the ranking in the male dominance h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:04 PM
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Great that you seem to have the push now. But allow me to wait for results and not take a start of the year fitness promise as enough basis to trust you. You might have noticed how half the population thinks every january, that they will have a ripped body by summer or by the end of the year, if they just keep on doing what they did for 2 weeks. By march, barely anyone is still en route to those goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:00 PM
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Dude, you needed 4 years to lose 10 pounds. That would have been a giant fail if i picked you for potential. Taking potential instead of current status is a risk. Past behavior is indicative of future behavior. That's what you guys always say about cheating and promiscuity etc. A life of overweight has low probability of turning into a life of fitness and attractive physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:39 PM
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Why is stating that he should get girlfriend to judge about relationship trust a personal attack? Just because you are insecure about your relationship status and take anything that mentions it as an insult that makes you feel bad, doesn't make it an attack. He is a self proclaimed incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:00 PM
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You obviously empty your bowels before anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:58 PM
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Have you touched fake tits? They feel terrible compared to real ones. Have you talked to women who lost sensitivity in their nippels from it? Btw., i looked at your other threads and just wanted to leave a quick response here. You want women to go for potential in mates, instead of just current status. They do. That's why they care about education and intelligence. It's potential for status and resource provisioning/acquisition. A broke medical school student has potential and women know this an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:57 PM
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lolwat? A HIGH fiber diet for a smooth and gel-like colon wall
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:18 PM
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I just want to keep attractive tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:05 PM
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What kind of delusion do you try to live in to feel safe? Look around you: marriages end all the time because people want to be with someone else. Do you deny reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:02 PM
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A lot of comments on this sub are absurd. Do we need a new post making that clear for all of them? It's absurd to argue about what other people think are high or low standards. Every possible standard is fine in mating. It's the core personal decision. It will be racist, ageist, ableist, etc. To even discuss and argue about of what other people decide in mating is right or wrong is ABSURD. Go fuck and/or marry whoever you want for whatever reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:11 AM
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No, there is not always someone better who is also into you. You don't have to be the best "all the time". A partner does have the ability to take future developments into account and see current downs as a temporary thing. Being able to get out of lows is also a good trait that signals stability for long term engagements. It's like calculating a moving average of your partner and you give them a buffer to recover from downs, before you make decisions about mate switching. You don't need to be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:49 AM
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No, to all of that. You are the problem, the one misinterpreting, the one not getting why she is offended. Ask your therapist for help about that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:39 AM
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It would really help if you don't base your arguments on some wild reddit posts. This is not reality. You get extreme views on reddit and they get the most engagement. That would be a somewhat okay position to take if many of those same women didn’t openly disparage men for wanting prenups or paternity tests. You have no idea if those groups overlap. "Many women", is based on what 10 reddit comments that you take as a sample to represent all of women? Stop living in your reddit, tiktok and insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:35 AM
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I think you need to be realistic about human mating. There is mate poaching, there is mate guarding, there is short term sexual relationships and long term romantic relationships and everything in between. Trying to restrict your partner in having male best friends comes as a tradeoff. More restrictions = less relationship satisfaction = more cheating/breaking up. But less restrictions = more cheating or potential mate switching. It comes down to, how happy do you want your partner to be, and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:20 AM
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You can't even just admit, for one moment, that women aren't perfect specimens of sweetness, light, and perfect communication, can you? WHAT THE FUCK. THis is not even REMOTELY about this. I never said anything even close to what women are. Women are just as fucked up as men, and just as sweet as men. You seem to be incapable of approaching and talking to women without offending them, upsetting them or causing concern to them. This is a YOU problem because you are autistic. Non-autistis who can …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:18 PM
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Fact is there are consequences Yes, if you offend, upset or cause concern, which doesn't happen unless you are autistic and can't read social cues and have not tact or udnerstandting of societal norms in a given situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:56 PM
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You are autistic right? That might play into how women receive your advances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:32 PM
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Wouldn’t it be the biggest sign of cowardice and lack of confidence to believe you have no chance of attracting anyone and you’re so scared of being alone that you desperately go after a woman even though you don’t even think she likes you in the first place? No. It's not desperation, it's confidence. I think you’re misunderstanding something? I’m not talking about a guy being scared to walk up to a girl and ask her out because he’s scared she’ll say no, I’m talking about a guy who’s talking wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:28 PM
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Confident men will not pursue women they don’t think are interested in them, But thinking that they are interested in them is not the same as them really being interested in them. The male sexual overperception bias lets some men think that she clearly wants the D and approach her, while she just looked his way in a neutral fashion for a split second. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656602005299 Take a confident man, sociosexually unrestricted, a little on the narcissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:18 PM
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I see what you mean. So be honest with me, do you think deliberately having a tall son might be a bad idea? https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=psychology_articles# Body height is really not that important if you care about your son's sex partner count. Personality decides. If you can get a tall donor on top of all the other criteria that will have a strong inclination to have a positive effect on his life, then take it. But chances are, you will face a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:10 PM
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Definitely! But it works. It doesn't work for men, and they are the ones who are more open to taking risks. So it's what is to be expected in the dynamic. Men take risks, women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:52 PM
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No, but it's still the better strategy than to entice men who are not confident, and risk rejection by showing interest to men who don't reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:51 PM
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Are you on the sociosexually restricted side of the spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:49 PM
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This was a laughable attempt to turn confidence into swagger into "thinking that women are just fuck meat", just so you don't have to accept that your lack of confidence is what is hampering your success with women. You have never experienced being confident about yourself in the presence of women so you cannot even fathom how that would make you change your behavior from being nervous and fumbling, to knowing she will like you and you can just be yourself. How often does it have to be repeated …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:35 PM
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Why can’t they make it abundantly clear so there isn’t all of this unnecessary stress and guesswork?? You just said it yourself. To weed out the men who are not confident. Men are very straightforward, You are not. Why would you need her signals of interest if you are straight forward? No, you cowardly wait around and hope that she is risking a rejection by sending clear signals that don't lead to your action of approaching her. The courting process isn't difficult at all. You see her, are inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:31 PM
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But even within this vulgar capitalist framing of human relationships, Do you have any evidence for human relationships, overall, not being like a market? Do you want to argue, that all the studies that find human relationships being mostly between equally desirable and valued people on this market? What dynamics do you think human mating follows? Random mating? You know this isn't possible, while evolution also being true. I understand you don't like the reality of human mating, but that doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:30 AM
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You might not be used to that on this subreddit, as people never have sources for the shit they say, but yes, i do have a source. https://datepsychology.com/male-attractiveness-and-sexual-partner-count/ " I could just go down the list and report the results of every paper, but there is a better way to do it. I dug through the literature and found all of the papers that I could that examined a relationship between sexual partner count and physical attractiveness. The data includes only men. " ​ <…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:15 AM
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So what determines what’s “high value”? PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS is the number one trait for men and women in mate selection, leading to someone being a high value individual on the mating market. Especially, since that is even more important for short term sexual relationships. You can read about the rest that matters in mate selection in the fucking wiki article. It's not secret knowledge, it's public basic knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_choice_in_humans
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:02 AM
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As long as you have men and women prefer age gaps of a couple of years, you will have that cutoff effect if you compare same aged brackets of men and women regarding relationship status, especially if the bracket goes down to the "minimum" age. Most committed relationships happen at the end of the 20s. And those women are mostly with men outside the bracket of 18-29, while 18-20yo men rarely go below 18 for committed relationships. It's pointless to compare 18-29 yo women to 18-29yo men, when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:51 AM
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really bad physical appereance So you do have a serious physical flaw, proving OP to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:33 AM
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Like do you think it'd be such a bad thing "bad" is open to be defined as one pleases. I am a biologist and i am open to let evolution play out. You being able and willing to procreate the way you described seems to be a fitness indicator in the current environment. "We" don't seem to "need" tall men currently. There is no benefit to being tall, other than being selected by women for reasons that still lack behind the current environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:31 AM
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I think a thermonuclear war is about to happen within the next 10 years. This will get rid of a lot of "first world problems" and put people into lower Maslow pyramid states. Less need to find the one that perfects your life and leads to personal growth and fulfillment, more need to have someone so the struggle to survive becomes a little easier. I'm hyped, although already in a relationship, but who knows who will survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:25 AM
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Who is making the argument that women are superior overall and not just in certain aspects, while men are superion in other aspects? Name one source at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:19 AM
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Many times I've heard women have the logic that they want to talk to the person for a few weeks before meeting them I doubt it's more than 5% of women who want this. Let's not treat it as something relevant to the mating market. The people who want this are probably about the same number in both sexes, and for various reasons, but they will find each other and be happy with that time schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:18 AM
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Because that is what mate guarding is. Explain your other scenarios for why someone doesn't want others to hit on their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:01 AM
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?! about what, which men? Neither men nor women are off the mating market, ever. It's a lifelong competition. Some decide they force themselves as much as possible to not be part of it, some stick to worse relationships than the ones they could have, because they feel like they need to, or are afraid of the consequences. But this is just a matter of weighing pros and cons, and if more pros (for mate switching) would come around or the cons would reduce, it's on the table again. It's a fairytale …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:57 AM
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I think you must be fairytale pilled to think that you can get some point of "gotcha moment" where women will fuck you because you proved them logically wrong. It's no secret that men and women go for attractiveness firstt, other qualities second. You can read up on human mate choice on wikipedia. There is more info than any pill could offer you. It's not a secret knowledge, it's basic public knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_choice_in_humans There is also strategic pluralism in wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:39 PM
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What do you mean by respond accordingly to men and women being permanently on the mating market? It's an illusion that marriage takes people off the mating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:16 PM
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You don't want your partner to be hit on, because you want to reduce the chance that your partner decide to switch mates to the new contender. Your partner would only switch mates if the new mate is better for them. So by trying to avoid that your partner gets a better partner, you are acting selfishly, as you don't have your partner's best interest in mind, but only your own, to the detriment of both your partner and the contender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:14 PM
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You cannot just make up definitions of words as you please and then point out a difference between fetishes and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:12 PM
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Every woman I know and saw who sleeps around only does it with the top 10% of men who are tall, fit, hung, and hot. And what does this have to do with hypergamy? Education and social status wasn't even in your list, nor was dating or marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:10 PM
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You are selfish in wanting to keep a partner that would be better off with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:08 PM
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You have no idea what a fetish is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:05 PM
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You first need to go out and regularly meet and talk to new women of dating appropriate subdemographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:02 PM
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The idea that women who are sexually attracted to bad boys have mental issues is absurd. Are you making up a strawman here? Where does the discourse say that women who are attracted to bad boys have mental health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:59 PM
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Why does this apply to women and not to men? I already made an argument for that. You don't seem to read my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:41 PM
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I mean... This makes sense, but it's like a subset of men and it's a combo of "very attractive" + "high social status"? No, it doesn't make sense, it's a logical argument to refute your point. I do not even make an assertion about who women are fucking in reality. If we look at how attractiveness of a man correlates with his lifetime sexual partners, there is weak correlation. Putting the average unattractive guy within ~2 sex partners of the average attractive guy. In general, it's like they da…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:40 PM
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I don’t completely agree with your stance on this, I think men and women are more similar than different in most ways, I agree with that. Science agrees with that. Ingroup variance is higher than between-group variance for most traits. “Biological certainties” always grinds my gears a bit because most things are a spectrum and heavily influenced by environment, rarely is there something you can put into a binary like OP is trying to do. Yes, biological certainties are on a spectrum for most trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:18 PM
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Not talking about orbiters, but men who come into a woman's life and want to mate poach her. You cannot avoid other men having interest in your wife. You can just be better than the other men who are interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:12 PM
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You don't like competition because you have low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:10 PM
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Hypergamy is about everything, including sex. No it isn't. Cite a source for your claim. Hypergamy also isn't about what people WANT, but what they realize on the mating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:07 PM
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Getting ghosted after a week or so is normal. Why would he not get ghostd when the women realize they are not a match? Maybe you are more like your "friend", than you want to believe. Even if a woman looks for "very wealthy, tall, good looking, high status, company founder etc." she still needs to want to be in a relationship with this specific guy and most people are just not compatible. "A couple of dates" is not a groundwork for analyzing "what is wrong", because meeting and realizing there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:02 PM
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Dating down doesn’t necessarily reduce the difficulty of getting sex. It does greatly. But it doesn't guarantee it, like you expect. Any man with a high body count has most of those bodies way below his league for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:32 PM
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By this logic, aren't you supposed to get sex automatically if you go meet women of lower social status than yours? Because you might be high social status but you fail at logic. If women ONLY fucked men of higher status than themselves. Then this does NOT logically mean that they fuck EVERY man with higher status than themselves. It could be that they only fuck the most attractive men of higher status than themselves. Also, why do you even assume that women as a group want to have casual sex to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:31 PM
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Same thing that you would do if there was no other man. Dude, there is always another man. Even when you are married. You can never stop being the person she chooses over everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:09 PM
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All of this is true for men too. And women want the best possible genes for their offspring. It would really help if you read my whole post before answering to individual sentences at the start. Even with the preferences for dimorphic sex markers, it shouldn't be enough for an innate preference for entirely hairless women. It's not an innate preference for entirely hairless women. Not the slightest. Hair in women is super important. Lashes, brows, head hair are MAJOR markers for feminintiy and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:04 PM
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but I’ve seen so many exceptions to it. And you want to wait for your exception. Sure, do so, but you know as well that this might never happen because it's called an exception for a reason. ADHD, depression, avoidant attachment style, but I really don’t think this has been the cause of my relationship problem This is enough to cause ALL of your relationship problems. Holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:20 PM
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This doesn't explain makeup and the female beauty phenomenon. A physically fit 20 year old woman who does not wear makeup or shave their body hair is just as healthy and fertile as a woman who does, and therefore equally valuable to a high value man. Fitness is not meaning you go to the gym regularly and are "fit". Fitness means genetical fitness. Makeup makes skin smooth, covers developmental issues, makes eyes larger, lips fuller => signs of neoteny => youth. All proxys for youth and fertility…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:17 PM
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And you are a trans-woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:48 AM
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Where do men who know how to properly act around women get their knowledge from in your opinion? What is your "masculine" that you think being in is advantageous for men in their friendships? You know those masculine friendships where there is no emotional support, just ridiculing each other and not being interested in personal life troubles of the other, while sharing a beer over a sports event?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:37 AM
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desperation and bitterness, yet those are the natural consequences of ongoing frustration and disappointment in the dating world - not only difficulties meeting people but getting mislead, ghosted, bread crumbed, stood up, let down and fucked around, it takes its toll I don't think you realize that YOU are the common factor in all those experiences and it's not a natural consequence, unless you are especially fragile, low resilience, low self-esteem. Not having had a romantic relationship at 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:49 AM
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The very foundation of the entire pill debate is built on the biological certainties that differentiate the two genders. can not be trusted to have an honest discussion You want to talk about biology and use the term GENDERS and want to be trusted to be able to have an honest discussion about the topic that is not driven by ideology but rather by factual knowledge of the topic? Most primary and secondary sex characteristics are hormonal in nature, MOST? Which ones are not? Why then, would they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:16 AM
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The theories have been discussed to death on here, women seek the highest value men while men seek any available female etc. But one thing that doesn't add up from all that: the question of why women are much more focused on beautifying themselves than men? Because nobody actually reads science but just parrots what ideological manosphere idiots tell them. Nobody ever discussed the science on this sub. They just discuss their opinions without any evidence but anecdotes and wishful or fearful thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:48 AM
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Can an ordinary man over 35 actually pull young women though, for either casual sex or a relationship? And if so, who are these women? What are their prospects? Sure, they mostly have mental health issues, daddy issues, selfesteem issues, hear Lana del Rey, and have some sort of abuse in their past. Borderline personality disorder is overrepresented in the demographic. As for "hot", that depends on how hot the guy is. As usual, men have to go lower for casual sex than for relationship partners. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:41 PM
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Everyone settles. It's a myth that people go for lower than they could get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:37 PM
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Just how men suffer from being short or having a small penis
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:36 PM
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This is not even evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:34 PM
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I see a lot of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:33 PM
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This is what happens when people don't understand science and then, from the comfy armchair they are sitting in, without any qualification or skillset to tackle the issue, come to "conclusions" about large topics. Like an epiphany. They just know the answers to problems. Not reflecting that they might be bullshit conclusions, not checking what science has on that topic, not checking what might contradict their views, just blurting it out into the ether. Holy fuck. . I get it!!! You have identifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:35 PM
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How hard your experience of life is has more to do with your subjective perception and valuation than with anything objectively measurable. You can suffer greatly for not being genetically blessed to match what is considered peak female beauty, and put a lot of weight into you physical flaws, or you can not care at all about that. You can obsess about your smaller than average penis size and make everyhting about that, being deeply unhappy about the unfairness of life as a man, or you can realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:28 PM
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What do you think? Have you ever tried such a switch before and has it helped you understand where the other person might be coming from? It helps a lot to explain to men and women that sex and attention are equivalent. Men want sex like women want attention. Men go to online dating for sex, women go to online dating for attention. The problem is, attention is front loaded, so after they got it ,there is no reason to have sex anymore. Don't give women all the attention they want from you before …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:27 AM
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I don't know about Bubba specifically, but with only 4.3% of likes on Hinge going to the bottom 50% of female profiles, you can safely assume, that "Bubba" (assuming you mean a below average desirable guy stereotype) is sending the overwhelming majority of his likes to women WAY out of his league. If the below average guys would like the below average girls, the bottom 50% of women would get about 50% of the likes, not 4.3%. While the top 10% most desirable female profiles get 58% of the likes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:09 AM
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Because men live less dangerous lives when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:13 PM
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Most men just want somebody willing to touch them because for most men no one is willing to do that. No they don't. They want the top 15% of desirable women. Look up the stats yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:38 PM
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What study course is this for?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:07 PM
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Absolutely not. Ask your supervisors for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:59 PM
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Holy fuck, i am not going to make the point again. Ask you professor for help on your survey interpretation please. But you did learn that you cannot have two bins contain the same value right? Even in social science this is an absolute no-go right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:52 PM
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A majority of posts and comments on this subreddit are people stating their opinions, with no references to stats or data of any kind. Because the pill ideologies do not have stats to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:53 PM
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The poll is fucked up to begin with because you have two buckets with the same height, 5'7-5'9 and 5'9-5'11 so someone who needs a minimum of 5'9 has no clear choice of bins. So lets rather take all requirements for dating that INCLUDE 5'9. Which is 75%.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:50 PM
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Yeah i am not talking about minimum, but being wihtin the acceptable height range.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:32 PM
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? It's not about the minimum when i want to make a point about how many women would accept an average height guy, as here, most average height guys seem to think their dating life fails because they are not 6'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:29 PM
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What? Both sexes want the top 15% and after a while of trying to get them but failing, they see that their own value doesn't alllow for such a good partner, so they adjust who they go for to match their own value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:27 PM
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That's what the survey says.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:26 PM
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So, can we put the debate to rest? 75% of women would date a man of average height, only 25% would only date a man 6' and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:34 AM
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I mean, that personality, like everything is determined by genes, environment and random events is so established, i wonder why you even try to develop that thought yourself, when it's in every textbook available. So what is there to debate in this thread? We also know from every textbook available, that personality/social status/etc. AND physical characteristics are determining mating success or rather mate value. Nothing to debate here. as if that person is solely responsible for his personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:25 AM
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Let me give you an example of what life is for a man: If you're not a conventionally good looking, hot, genetically blessed guy you cannot live a full life. Your life will be very restricted. Same applies to a woman with those traits. You cannot experience being desired, you cannot have an active dating life casually dating people, you cannot do hookups, ONS, have roster of FWB, consistently do short term flings, situationships, be part of kink poly circles and be equally valued as a barely aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:46 AM
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I really hate woman right now and how easy they have it. I never though it would get to this but I am a misogynist now. So pointless to hate someone because they have it easy. Do you also hate men who have it easy? children because they are loved unconditionallly? You are doing yourself no favor with your mentality. Have you been to therapy? I remember reading you have problems being socially adapted in your behavior. Is that due to some condition? You can get back to being a normal part of soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:33 AM
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Again, one single experience. That could have happened the same way if sexes were changed. The problem was loss of identity, not being a man. " From there, it seems that Norah's choice to take on different identities caused a psychological break. "
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:10 AM
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How many children will you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:05 AM
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If you think a group of guys playing soccer is not welcoming of anyone joining, you are the problem. If you think going to a bar or getting lunch with someone you exchanged contacts on a night out is "weird for some reasons", YOU are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:37 PM
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Please, tell me what life as a man is like. And then realize that you just know what life is like for you and you have absolutely no idea what life is like for the next man, or men in general. The difference between my knowledge about what life is like for men and yours has only the difference of ONE lived experience, vs reports of millions of lived experiences, that are readily available to consume. Now, guess who has consumed more reports of lived experiences of men, both anecdotal and in stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:34 PM
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Honestly if they don't want to use apps and they don't want to go to bars or clubs I genuinely just don't know what else to say. Any path is possible. You have the option to interact with the people in your life. If they can't interact for anxiety reasons, shyness, low confidence etc., or think their interaction is unwanted or socially unacceptable, they should look into therapy. At least if they want to change their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:25 PM
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Don't use online dating. Speak to people in real life. Do warm approaches rather than cold. Even luke warm is fine. Anything that is not completely cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:22 PM
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Ah yes, because random groups of people are totally going to be open to a random guy approaching them when they’re out and about. They are more often than not. How many groups did you approach last weekend? And I don’t care about frisbee or whatever, and if I do those things a just to meet people they can smell it out and it’ll come off as disingenuous according to people on here. There are a fuckton of outdoor activities in park. If you don't like any of them, maybe you are really not that aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:59 PM
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...where the odds of there being a person you are attracted to being open to such interactions are about 1 in 10 million. I've been in these situations. People in small groups in "social houses" are there to be with each-other as a group activity. Mingling and meeting new people seems to be very rare these days. So what is it? Is everyone having too few friends, lonely, desperately in need of a larger social circle, or is everyone already set in their closed social groups that don't want to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:55 PM
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I will use average not as the 50th percentile mark of a distribution, but like a standard deviation around the mean, in their overall sum of relevant traits. "Nobody" is mean value on every trait, that would be an extraordinarily rare person. You can be an average guy who is 190 cm tall and unemployed, if the sum of your relevant traits keep you around the mean. It should be clear to you, that taking a face, a height an an income which are spot on average, will not make a guy average, if he is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:43 PM
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Are you also one of the men who think they are average while showing severe deficits in the most important qualities for finding a girlfriend that would make up an average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:19 PM
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Last time i checked, those japanese men are not looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:18 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but you are not an avearge guy if you have trouble meeting women or finding a girlfriend. Trouble = not been successful in years. You can be an average guy, but have a sub 10% quality online dating app profile. On the apps, profiles get swiped, not people. You can be an average guy with a top 30% profile easily. Whatever you do with your friends, make it something where you are around other people of your dating target group, and then just talk to them. Go to a bar, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:17 PM
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Of course that was a joke, as made obvious by the smiley-face at the end of the sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:59 PM
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The notion that people should change and improve is noble but not reality for probably a great many of men. Some of us simply have no charisma....0/10 stat basically. You seem to not understand what change and improve means. You CHANGE and IMPROVE your 0/10 charisma score to something that is high enough to be someone's partner. I don't believe some things can be learned beyond your developing years or ever with poor genes. Which things would that be? Because charisma definitely belongs to the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:13 AM
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And you would need the respective societal backing of thise DNA database and the mandatory paternity tests. CHange the constitutions of the respective countries, if needed. But all of that requires people to want that. Which the people do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:12 AM
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Maybe 80% of women are gonna be vying over a small group of guys. This is bad for you, because now you're having to basically fight for the attention of a limited pool of dateable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:49 AM
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You don't have an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:48 AM
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That is 15% of the population. Congratz, you just owned yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:47 AM
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. If you're used to living a life around a million a year and then suddenly you're only making 30 grand a year most people aren't gonna be able to cope with that.... What do you base that on? Humans are SUPER adaptable to any kind of living condition. If people leave that area the cost for each tax payer goes up until it's not manageable Police and "stuff" have been financed on any level of population size, economoy and political system. It's also a service where the cost scale with the people. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:46 AM
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Apparently, zoomer males are more likely than baby boomers to say feminism has done more bad than good. Unless we get the standard deviations, errors, sample size, and statistical significance calculation for these survey results, i will treat 16% (zoomers) vs 13% (boomers) as no statistically significant difference. Also, you need to keep in mind that those surveyed people also voted for BREXIT, because they thought being in the EU has done more bad than good :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:42 AM
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It was a rich country years before, when it was at 50% of current population. How does that work for your views?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:28 AM
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He said that a problem is that with shrinking populations we can't afford fire stations anymore. Do you realize how stupid that is? There are fire stations in every kind of sized settlement and in every kind of political system. It's an essential service and it will be provided, even if there are no taxes going towards it. Where i live, we have voluntary fire departments. He treats it, as if there never was a downscaled version that worked pretty well before it got upscaled. We can downscale aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:26 AM
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What people want and what they accept as satisfying enough are two different things. If you ask men what they want in a woman, you will also get the top 15% of women as a description.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:23 AM
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And what is the problem with that? People in 2000, when it was 6.6 billion the last time, did pretty good. One could argue, that life was even better then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:22 AM
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And before anyone goes yay less people.... It's not a good thing... You need to make an argument for it, weighing pros and cons. Just stating it is not enough. Because i would just state the opposite, it is a good thing overall, we just need some adaptation, and if humans die out eventually due to not wanting to procreate anymore, that is a fine outcome too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:16 AM
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Vague statements are best to push an ideological point. "too many" is a useless statement, as even 1 raped woman per century could be labeled as "too many women get raped", as the ideal would be 0. But of course, like with many things, reducing the number rape incidents gets harder and harder, the lower the number gets, to a point where it's not worth it to further put effort into reducing it, as putting that same effort elsewhere would lead to more wellbeing. But for ideologists, this point doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:13 AM
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I think most men would agree with this that most times, as you get to know a woman more that façade drops starting with that first date. If you think about it some more, you might come to the conclusion that this applies to all humans, as we all put up a facade and slowly let others see more of who we are when we don't put on social masks and get into social roles. Obviously, there's no way they can match the image they put out so what can they do? Limit access. Instead of going on dates in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:58 AM
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Dude, women are not stupid. If i want to buy my dream car for an absurdly low price ideally, but spend 5 years looking for a dealer who has the car for the price i want, but i only get to test drive them, as the price is too high for my liking, i will come to the conclusion, that i need to either pay more or look for a car i can afford. So many men here seem to think that women are stuck in "i need the Ferrari for $100". What do you think the 60% of young women who are in committed relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:43 AM
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the chances of him finding a woman in her 20s is much larger based purely on math It's not. You forgot that women in their 20s also need to be interested in men in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:23 AM
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So that is my question: do men "use" ugly women for a quick smash and properly date the pretty women going much slower with them? Stop saying "use" like it's an object. Or also say "or do they properly use pretty women as loved wives and children for their kids" as well. It's not using. Other then that, of course, men have different standards for long term relationship partners and short term sexual partners. Very low threshold to be seen as a sexual partner, very high threshold to be seen as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:10 AM
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How does this affect you and not some generations down the line who might think about it very differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:54 AM
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Where do women say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:53 AM
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I think the only “fair” way to actually KNOW who would be “wrong” would be for a man to literally “magically” become a women and a women to become a man. Truth is not in personal experiences but in science. Yes, we can say that some viewpoints are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:53 PM
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I guess you also think Tate is innocent right? https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/08/31/french-bukkake-case-porn-violence-suspects-ordered-to-stand-trial_6117868_7.html It's not about porn. The same pornographic material can be produced legally. You are scaring people with this misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:43 PM
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What do you want? This is not a debate but a rant with no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:41 PM
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You don't even know if you are dreaming right now or are in a simulation, hooked up to a computer. What can you tell me about real-life affection or intimacy? You don't know if you ever experienced real life to begin with or how it would feel differently from what a simulation or dream can offer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:39 PM
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Why would it succeed? Stop painting idiotic futures that have no basis in ever becoming a reality. Nobody is going to take your porn away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:37 PM
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paycheck women don't have time to post about this stuff on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:32 PM
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Nobody has this idea. I am talking about a future where OPs observations about current times would be catastrophized
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:31 PM
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But the devil is in the details. Just how selective will women turn out to be in a baseline, biological way as their material need for a man in their lives trends towards zero? How much of the selectivity will be artificially enhanced and unneeded? Why do you say trends towards zero? We are already several decades into zero material need for being in a relationship with a man. I think we can both agree that there is SOME level of male sexual exclusion that brings the house down on us. I am not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:35 PM
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Alright, i find 99% of men intuitively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:23 PM
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paper tiger. Incels and other unsuccessful men don't show any sign of revolting, starting a revolution, going to the streets, bandign together, or attacking other men or women physically, sexually or verbally. They stick to posting revenge fantasies in their niche online subgroups with other men and people who amuse themselves reading about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:21 PM
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Have you seen the Matrix?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:17 PM
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how much explanation you need just to answer a simple question Dude, you cannot even answer the simple question of what "looking good" means. Is it 6+ on a 7 point Likert scale? What is looking good? I can't answer the question if it's not about my subjective sexual attraction and you don't give me the objective correspondance of what looking good means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:17 PM
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What does noticeably looks good mean, if i can't go by my own sexual attraction to them? I understand that there are objective measures to objective beauty criteria like facial thirds, symmetry, etc., but what percentage "perfection" is the threshold for "noticeably looking good"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:54 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:50 PM
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but if they are able to make it work for themselves why get mad at women for not liking you ?? I am not quite sure how you can argue like this when your situation is the opposite. As far as i understood from your profile,you are a 17yo transwoman who is ugly on top of that, posts on suicide watch and is overall lonely with zero friends and nobody being sexually or romanticallly interested in you. Are you REALLY not mad that people have their standards which work for them, but which result in eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:46 PM
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Which pairing rate is high enough? Enough for what? So men don't kill each other? You think we are on the brink of men needing to kill each other because the lack of mating opportunities are such a negative, that mortal combat becomes the better alternative? Incels are not even going to the streats. They are not even talking to women as a means to change their situation. We are FAR away from any form of "heart attack".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:35 PM
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How do you define "attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:31 PM
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YOu are not raping anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:30 PM
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You forgot to extrapolate into the future. Classic mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:29 PM
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How exactly is it losing, if women are en route to take over the majority of the work, paying unmotivated men social security checks so they can keep playing videogames all day long and masturbate to ai girlfriends. Sounds like winning to me. Not having to deal with child rearing? Win! Men can just lean back and enjoy being men. They will hook up to the matrix and have the best life imaginable, while women do all the work and keep their systems running, because they "won the gender war". good jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:28 AM
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WHAT? Hormones affect mood and behavior and many other things. Why would it NOT be normal that women are irritable and yell at their partners when hormones change?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:11 AM
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When it becomes harder for you to argue, you just tweak the numbers so it seems like you have more of an argument. Next month it will be 95% and then 99%. Then you will shift what "attractive" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:07 AM
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Once even the most basic low level bonds between men and women are gone, that’s it it goes down to the most basic biological level, your society is finished What is more basic biological level than bonds between male and female individuals in a sexually reproducing species? Society is an advanced concept compared to bonds between the sexes. The entire society is about to have a massive heart attack in fact I would argue we are having the heart attack right now Regarding bonds between men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:40 AM
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Nobody knows how attractiveness is distributed on the 10 point scale. It's definitely normal distributed but how the curve looks is debateable. This "truerateme"-sub rating picture says that only 2.5% of the population are 7 or higher on a 0-10 scale, while 70% of the population are between 4-6 out of 10. People overrate themselves, men and women, and yes, 7/10 is regarded as average, because high values are given out like candy, so 5 or below seems like you would have to be a monster. Essential…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:34 AM
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All in all, my big point is red pill ideology logically leads back to the support of traditionalism and patriarchy. You are arguing with the result, as if no other result could happen. Red pill at it's base is the bro-science version of real science on human mating. The dumbed down version. Science isn't political. But it will be used and misused by people for political agendas. My view is, that it depends on the man what he does with the neutral scientific information. If he is weak and insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:12 AM
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In the meantime, bullying research and interventions should be increasingly cognizant of the fact that bullying may indeed be, at least in part, due to evolved mental adaptations that predispose some individuals to harm others to obtain personal goals (e.g., Garandeau, Lee, & Salmivalli, 2014). These goals may go beyond social dominance and extend specifically toward obtaining sexual partners. Sexual goals have largely been ignored in the bullying intervention literature (see Volk et al., 2012 f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:51 AM
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It's a neutral trait. Not being jealous is a sign of confidence, but also a sign of low neuroticism, meaning low threat detection. This leads to being cheated on more than a high threat detection person would be cheated on, because they detect signs of infidelity early and end relationships or change controlling behavior/mate guarding efforts. But they also over-detect threats which is a pain in the ass for the partner and leads to lower relationship satisfaction. I think it's better to acknowle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:45 AM
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As with friend zone or sex zone, girlfriend zone is something you do to yourself. Nobody puts you into a zone. They offer a kind of relationship to you, and if that's not what you want, you leave and look for someone else. If you stay or commit to a relationship that is not what you want, YOU are the problem and YOU can solve it immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:22 AM
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I would guess so, as everyone knows, the larger your dick the less time you get to stroke it yourself, as women just come along and want to bounce on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:15 AM
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Society doesn't shun age gap dating. Half of society is men. They like young girls and women. Why would they shun other men for doing what they want to do or do themselves. Of the female side of society, only few women have an issue with age gaps. Are you dating 18yos? No? Are you shunned by other men for age gap preferences? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:12 AM
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And yet, as others have pointed out, women have no issues with fucking random hot guys they see at the club or bars. Make it make sense. ~3 times in their life. As all their remaining bodies are long term boyfriends. There is no widespread fucking of random hot guys every week or even every month or even every year. Make it make sense! If every woman would just fuck one random hot guy PER YEAR, women would have about double to triple their lifetime sexual partner counts. Oh, but women are lieing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:00 AM
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You don't understand the purpose of shaming people. It's to change behavior, when it deviates from societal norms. If your preferences for partners go against the norms, you will be shamed. If the way you articulate your preferences go against the norms, you will be shamed. All in an effort to get you back into the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:53 AM
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Yeah clearly let's use peoples in that dated in the 70s to make an argument about modern times. 30-40yo are also 70% in relationships. They do date with online dating apps like anyone else. Their relationships are a few weeks to a few years old. Who the fuck cares about people who dates in the 70s? Because? What you think is the reason for it? Modern times. You compare current single-rate of young people with those "dating in the 70s"-groups, where people married at 22. Times changed, so did rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:51 AM
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Oh you want to be pedantic and point to the 2 guys who really have a good reason to not be able to find a girlfriend? Sure, i'll give you that. But we are generalizing here, right? Are you one of the affected people who think that it's not their fault for being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:37 AM
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"don't be ridiculous" isn't an argument The argument is in the words before that, which you also quoted. Don't be ridiculous. yet you have no evidence to assume treating someone badly means they will change dude, SHAME. The fucking concept of shame in humans is the proof. "Shame can also be described as an unpleasant self-conscious emotion that involves negative evaluation of the self. Shame can be a painful emotion that is seen as a "...comparison of the self's action with the self's standards.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:33 AM
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So if the marriage is sexless, it must mean that the woman sees the husband as someone sexually undesirable right? No, and it's sad that you didn't even put in 5 minutes of reading into the topic of dead beadrooms before making a discussion thread about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:30 PM
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How is this not the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:00 PM
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70% of men are in relationships currently, half of the remaining don't look for a relationship, basically every man is in a relationship at some point before or after being surveyed. It's still you who is the issue, if you have never been in a relationship and are in your mid 20s or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:59 PM
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I get approach a lot. But then again, i dance my ass off on the weekends with half of my tits out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:55 PM
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I specifically used people to fix OP. If you can't get a girlfriend and are above 20yo, you are the issue, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:15 PM
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Why do so many female offenders get a boyfriend/husband easily? Because no matter what you do, you are, you look, you believe, most people get partners easily. As there is always someone, who can't do better than you and who rather is with you than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:35 AM
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Romantic success is in their genes. I'd consider myself having fucked up something seriously, if they are not interested in a romantic relationship and/or are not successful on the mating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:19 AM
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Like, if at this moment a man doesn't wish to start a family, I don't see the benefits of a LTR (long term relationship ) over an FWB situation (friend with benefits). Have you been in both kinds of relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:12 AM
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Only people who never had a girlfriend would think that women are loved unconditionally. Just like with a lot of weird takes on this sub, the absolute and utter desperation for any kind of female attention, love and sexuality makes those men think that everyone has their perspective on women. Same with the concept of mutual mate choice. Men in this sub often repeat how women are the selectors, they pick among their many options, while men just offer themselves, try to impress and win her. It's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:09 AM
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Shame works as a way to change behavior and shaming others also works as a way to conform to group values. If you get shamed for stating you don't want a fat woman, the shamers share the value of "fat acceptance (and other similar values)" and want you to change your behavior regarding stating your differing values and making fat people feel bad. You won't get shamed by people who share your values or behavior. Shaming is one way how value and behavior conflicts are fought out. THere is always g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:03 AM
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Can you give an example? Or clarify what you mean exactly? Where is biology not objective and true to reality "at the level discussed here"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:55 AM
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How is food regulation "pretty easily solvable"? You mean in an authoritarian regime that strikes down protests for freely available sugar with the force of weapons? Okay. There's also no reason to think hunger is less "evolutionary core" than mate selection. True, didn't think about that long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:50 AM
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ok so is this an emotional argument or do you have any data to show that shame is an effective deterrant to being fat? Humans evolved shame for the reasons of influencing behavior. Of course it works. Don't be ridiculous. now it seems like you're advocating for people being mistreated by others based on their appearance? No, I advocate for keeping what we tell people in line with the reality they experience. Everythign else would be gaslighting. because otherwise how would this even work? Being …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:42 AM
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No he doesn't think you are the exception to the rule. He treats you just like all the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:52 PM
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. I'm sorry, but I do not really believe that there is a sea of totally normal neutral truth-knower people out there living their life in harmony without hang-ups or biases or general lamentations when it comes to sexuality and (heterosexual)dating What do you base that belief on? Data? Or your echo chamber and confirmation bias and a plethora of other biases?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:45 PM
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Okay, all I will say is that I wish these "normal common sense people", however many of them are out there, would participate in gender discourse more, even online. Ideologists have the greatest drive to spread their ideas and keep others small and irrelevant, toxic, evil, forbidden. You will not find the mainstream standing up for a basic understanding of reality based on science, because they fucking don't care what the fringe ideological groups on both ends of the spectrum do, as long as they…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:09 PM
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I just don't get why I should believe it's a niche if that's not how it appears to be. You can see how deep into that ideology you are if you think that the alternative if conservative/red pill ideology. The uni in my city offers dual study programs that can be combined freely by subject. There is one exception. You cannot study gender studies together with biology. This tells you everything you should know. Biology is not conservative or red pill. It's a fucking science. It tells us a lot about…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:48 PM
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How is social constructivism a niche? Because it is, but it doesn't appear to the people in the niche like it, because they live in echo chambers, surround themselves with a social bubbles that shares their ideology. They do a lot to shut out any contradicting information and label it any kind of -ism or oppression, tto not have to deal with it. It's dogmatic, but luckily, it's only a niche, yet a powerful elite niche and they have a thing with language, so they try to control it. Like, link me …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:31 PM
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If you mean women are what men select for reproduction/commitment, then yes. So are men, who got selected for by women for millennial for the stuff that is now called "toxic masculinity" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:59 AM
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We have established that the type men that the majority of women desire are in the top 5% of all men (a generous percentage to give some wiggle room). Just to remind everyone, the type of woman the majority of men desire is also in the top 5% of all women. Women cry out for not being able to get to that 5% by self improvement for "unrealistic beauty standards" (no, they are realistic, as the top 5% embody them, you are just not able to achieve them because your genetic limitations and/or your la…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:39 AM
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Well you are the classic social constructivist, having been raised in an environment that rejected nature in the nature/nurture debate, that has long been settled into: it's about 50/50 for most things. You lived in a niche pocket of society, that ideologically emphasized all the wrong things about human mating dynamics. Now you realize that this fairy tale doesn't work and you are rightfully upset. Not even your fellow social constructivists are into the traits they think men should express to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:24 AM
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Interesting. What did you discover lately about how you were manipulated by whom? What triggered that realization and how did you change your behavior/thinking and to what? Where do you suspect to be currently manipulated into thinking what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:06 AM
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Has she ever been slim in adult life, so i can look at her face?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:55 AM
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being attracted to someone is dangerous? No, spreading lies that "it's completey wrong that barely anyone is into fat women" is dangerous. i dont think people strive to be fat babe No, but knowing men overwhelmingly prefer non-fat women, gives incentives to change their own fat bodies to something healthier, AND it helps to understand why they are treated like they are, instead of being stuck in inconsistencies between what they are told and how they are treated, which is important for mental he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:44 AM
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Look at men and their stupid threats of violence to each other, their insults and their boasting, their chest thumping, their idiotic peacock presentations. YOu think this can be taken seriously, if taken at face value? How desperate they are to get their dicks wet, running up the walls and being completey dick controllled? Get over it, men and women are different and you would do better with this difference, if you understood evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:17 AM
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Men want new pussy very quickly after getting a girl (no matter how good the sex is) and they don’t like admitting it because it’s unpleasant. No, it's rather: a new sex partner that is of no romantic interest becomes less and less rewarding very quickly, to the point where men rather would look for a new sex partner than going back to an old sex partner. Women are hardwired for long-term bonding Men (as a group) are also hardwired for long-term bonding, but they are also hardwired to have a str…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:10 AM
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as with everything: genes, environment and random chance. What you might want to look into is sociosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:59 AM
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Read Mating Intelligence by Glenn Geher and Geoffrey Miller.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:33 PM
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But if you say RP advice is bad what should a man read INSTEAD? Spend time with friends who are able to get dates and healthy relationships. Learn from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:32 PM
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If it doesn't work, why is the "ick" phenomenon happening then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:21 PM
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Again, how is one a good partner if one gives up after being hurt? That is a pretty poor quality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:32 PM
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So how are you not an idiot? how do you avoid being affected by media and corporations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:28 PM
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Why do you think the "ick" phenomenon is so trendy right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:27 PM
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How is one a good one if getting hurt makes them give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:19 PM
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In real life, you have all of your personality, your behavior, your voice, your wit, your social skills, etc. to be attractive to a woman. In online dating, you have just the quality of your fotos and your body. Why play in a setting where your least attractive parts make up all of the things women can go by? Studies show, that in couples where the partners have know each other prior to dating, there is a larger gap in their attractiveness than in couples who didn't know each other prior to dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:59 PM
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No i don't want to compare the effort between the sexes, that is ridiculous. I want to compare the effort put into dating WITHIN the group of men. Look at the dating app demographics. Men outnumber women 3:1. Why is that? Yes, partly because men want casual sex more than women. But i think it's mostly because it's a WAAAAAAAAAAAAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY easier thing to do than going out and organically meeting women. We all know that real life interactions are what women need to determine …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:49 PM
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I do it because it raises my perceived value to reject desirable men for tiny irrelvant things. Like how desirable do i need to be in order to act this picky? Right. It's also a signal to other women, making fun of their mate choice, lowering their perceived value accordingly, changing our perceived positions in the intrasexual hierarchy. Doesn't have to do anything with men for me, it's about my position and desirability as seen by other women and myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:38 PM
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If the juice is not worth the squeeze, what is the problem then? Not squeezing is the better route to choose in this case. Complaining about wanting the juice but not for the price of the squeeze is too simplistic. Did the required squeeze for the juice increase or did men just become weaker or more lazy? YOu think that dating dynamics are partially to blame for this? Absolutely, with men thinking that swiping on dating apps is all the squeeze that they are willing to do for the juice, we have i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:32 PM
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Not sure if I'm just the weird one but the effort-to-reward ratio is absolutely abysmal. The guy i hooked up recently explained it to me like this: he would rather spend all the time and resources on finding a new sexual partner, going on a date, getting to know her, doing all that stuff, accepting a not so attractive woman compared to him, than going back to someone he already hooked up with, and which would just require a phonecall. Even if this would likely result in better sex due to already…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:19 PM
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What is there to debate here? There is science on the topic that shows benevolent sexism is preferred on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:35 AM
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Not sure if I'm just the weird one but the effort-to-reward ratio is absolutely abysmal. The guy i hooked up recently explained it to me like this: he would rather spend all the time and resources on finding a new sexual partner, going on a date, getting to know her, doing all that stuff, accepting a not so attractive woman compared to him, than going back to someone he already hooked up with, and which would just require a phonecall. Even if this would likely result in better sex due to already…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:32 AM
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Virginity is a value from the past and is still valued by men and women with values from the past. Those men and women, at least in the west, tend to overestimate their share of the population. You can be proud of any behavior that matches your values. In fact, there is no other way than to feel good about being in concordance with your values. But don't expect other to share them or ascribe you value for meeting your bars but not theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:23 AM
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Are some people really that desperate and at that point, or are they over exaggerating ? They are exaggerating and just mean regarding short term things: sex, cuddling, attention, feeling desired, etc. Long term romantic commitment to "just anyone" is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:08 AM
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Wait what? Why do you want to make a fringe movement for people who can't find partners into something that people who do find partners easily should follow? There is no reason to go your own way as a man or woman, if you get your romantic and sexual needs met by the sex you are attracted to. Power asymmetries are a problem in bad relationships. Not in good ones. Don't stay in bad relationships. Relationships seem very hard. There is constant conflict. Not the good ones, they are easy and provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:02 AM
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I am not TELLING YOU or PEOPLE what thy are attracted to, i am observing and base my statement on worldwide scientifically assessed mate preferences. Your fringe exception is included in "barely anyone" in my comment. If anything, you telling us that i am COMPLETELY WRONG on this, is dangerous misinformation, as it suggests that WAY more than barely anyone finds fat women attractive and it normalizes fat bodies, where nobody should strive for a fat body for their own wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:37 AM
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I don't care about what my partner does if it doesn't affect me or the relationship negatively. I am also not neurotic, so i don't even think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:39 PM
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No, they should not. Having an open relationship is something you need to want, rather than something you should offer to someone against your own interests and ability to deal with it emotionally. You call for a one-sided non-monogamy for a reason. You can't do it yourself. Why do you expect women (as a group) to be able to do it? It's for a tiny fraction of people with the sociosexual unrestrictedness, the confidence, the reflectedness, the communication skills and the required emotional regul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:59 AM
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Is it correct to say that the majority of women are actually attracted to "players" and "fuck boys" hence why they are "fuck boys" because they are highly promiscuous? Women are attracted to attractive and desirable men. Your mental blockade seems to be to think that all attractive/desirable men are fuckboys or players, because YOU would do that if you were and you can't imagine how someone doesn't want to fuck as many women as possible if they have the chance to do so. Highly promiscuous men sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:43 AM
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Barely anyone who says Lizzo is attractive means it. It's virtue signalling, avoiding conflict, status games, lots of things but the smallest portion is actually meaning she is attractive. It's not a paradox if they all kinda look like Lizzo and are actually less attractive then her. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:45 AM
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Some of the women here have such terrible personalities that they would be incels if they became men. And they would defend the incel position just as aggressively as the ones here do. :) i enjoyed this part greatly, as you just confirmed that personality makes an incel, not looks. And as far as i know, we still treat personality as something that people are responsible for and that can be changed. They assume that the men struggling are worse people than they are. So, bad personality leads to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:08 PM
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What is the reason behind it? Isn't your natural beauty enough? To increase perceived attractiveness. This is beneficial in mate search, but also for how one is treated for being more attractive by society (halo effect) and for the intra-sexual hierarchy position. It makes me feel better about my competitive position with other women. I enjoy being more attractive than other women, just as men enjoy being at a higher hierarchy position than other men. It gets me more attention. I run on attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:51 PM
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There is a difference between being vulnerable and showing other that you are a weak and udnesirable partner. There can be strength in showing a vulnerability and there can be a weakness in showing vulnerability. Maybe look into "Models" by Mark Mansons to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:07 PM
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A man 35+ with no relationship experience should probably have some short term relationshps with women first to get a grasp of who they are in relationships and what they want. Committing to the first woman who doesn't run away is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:11 AM
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I don't make anyone wait, when i want to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:55 AM
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Hybristophilia is a psychological phenomenon characterized by an attraction or sexual arousal toward individuals who have committed serious and often violent crimes, such as murder, assault, or other heinous acts. The term is derived from the Greek words "hybristes," meaning an offender or violator, and "philia," meaning love or strong affinity. Individuals with hybristophilia may be drawn to the perceived danger and power of those who have committed crimes. The phenomenon is not well understood…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:22 AM
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