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I don’t see many non high maintanence women. I also take care of myself and most women who do as well also end up being high maintanence. Men also are allowed to care about attractiveness and I know most women want a man who heavily desires them I’d love to find a non high maintanence woman who was more into physical fitness/health and didn’t really care for all the other stuff you mentioned. Not many exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:36 PM
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Are a lot of women up for an actual partnership? Doesn’t really seem like it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:43 PM
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I’ve seen some shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:34 AM
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It’s the opposite, women care significantly more about adhering to gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:08 AM
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hey, don't disrespect stardew valley like that that's one of the greatest game ever made
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:51 PM
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It doesn’t prove who goes out more. People drink alone or at home
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:57 AM
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This is just binge drinking
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:56 PM
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They could have red flags they aren’t talking about, they could be Chad chasing m, or they could by lying for clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:01 PM
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Great you’re in the minority among your cohort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:43 PM
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You cannot be externally pressured into doing something you don't want to do unless there is a threat you desire to avoid. This statement is so inaccurate that I'm not even sure what to say. External pressures from society can absolutely influence people on all sorts of different things, like the job they have, the friends they keepy, their choice of romantic partner, the clothes they wear. Like what??? What about peer pressure to drink or do drugs as a younger person? There is no direct threat …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:21 AM
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Women do not want to be pursued by any men, just the ones they are interested in. That's the whole issue behind men being resentful towards women for rejecting them- women aren't interested in their pursuits. Yes, but ultimately women still want to be pursed. And men cannot know before they try if the women is interested. So, the men must risk rejection. This is how heterosexual romantic interactions work. Were you born on Mars or something? That pressure to be accepted by women is an internal d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:59 AM
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Well you’re wrong in many different ways. First women do want to be pursued by men, so that’s your first issue. Second, women heavily prefer men with sexual and romantic experience so there is immense pressure on men to have success romantically with other women or else they’ll be considered weird. Think of the top insults by women for men, incel, virgin. They directly are about sexual inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:31 AM
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No it’s from other women mostly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:22 AM
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No one says a few men don’t date this way. Also there are more who women date this way than men because they have so many more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:54 PM
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More like female in-group bias in action
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:06 PM
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In no way is this women extremely hot lol, good looking sure but not extremely hot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:22 PM
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I watched the video on him, she was a fan, has daddy issues, and has mental health issues. So this one actually isn’t that weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:10 PM
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She’s hot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:55 PM
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It’s more that voting for trump or not actually just doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:23 PM
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lol as if voting for trump actually matters to women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:07 PM
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Men’s higher test leads to the promiscuity and lower looks standards. This is very basic stuff. And even if it’s stratified at least gay men can easily date their looksmatch then. Women want above their looksmatch if they are average. This isn’t helping your case sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:45 PM
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No the looks standards are just significantly reduced when dealing with gay men than straight women. That’s why a guy gets more play on gay hinge (not Grindr) than straight hinge. This is like so obvious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:22 PM
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This is extremely delusional. Guys can just change their dating app profile to looking for men and will get significantly more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:12 PM
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I’m not gifting her anything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:41 AM
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I agree with what you said in your first few paragraphs regarding higher risks+financial incentive being less important. However in the last paragraph, I’m not sure what you mean by men vetting more. If we were to get more we’d get even less romantic opportunities. The answer is that there really is no answer. Developed societies where women get educated and work at similar rates to men just end up with a lot of single people because too many men don’t end up making the cut or marriage/kids is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:32 AM
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Sadly that’s sort of the issue. There’s a huge desire gap among men and women. Men desire many more women than women desire men. So for many women, they don’t actually desire a man at their level in terms of looks, personality, finances,status, etc. That’s the primary reason we are in the mess we are in. Now I wouldn’t say women have to go for men they don’t desire, it should just be more recognised by everyone how dating actually works and then understanding can be gained why many men complain …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:30 PM
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I don’t even know how to respond to your stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:51 PM
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No issue with having any sort of standard you want. But once you do that you invite possible criticism to your standards, especially if you simultaneously complain there are no “good men” and “the bar is so low.” For example, let’s say there was a guy who said he’d only date a woman if she’s been in a sports illustrated swimsuit edition. And he also said there were no good woman anymore, and that modern woman weren’t good enough for him. Would you say “you go king!” and not criticise him at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:04 PM
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That is legitimately the most unhinged take I’ve heard this year and that includes all the bullshit that has come out of Donald’s trump mouth. You’re the caricature people like Andrew Tate point to when talk about deluded feminist women. You pay his bills for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:03 PM
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The bar for men is insanely high for men and insanely low for women in romance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:57 PM
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That’s kinda burying the lede right? I mean if you categorise meaningless relationships and unwanted unsatisfying sex with like 80%+ of the male population then at a certain point the questions becomes your standards not the men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:54 PM
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Higher smv than you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:25 PM
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Can women that use the phrase “the bar is on the floor” please retire it? It’s obviously untrue and just makes anyone who says it look delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:42 PM
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Reason #18495864838 why I wish I were gay
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:53 PM
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I haven’t experienced that personally but I am dealing with women from the ages of like 23-33, so maybe I need to go older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:40 PM
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Yeah it’s funny how what blue pillers usually turns into a self own
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:22 PM
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Nah women love plausible deniability so that if the man doesn’t like her, it can be silently rejected and ignored. Women tend to be against conflict, including social conflict more than men. They prefer social harmony The hints are made specifically so they can be misinterpreted as platonic and the women can save face through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:20 PM
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good thing our federal government doesn't have direct democracy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:07 AM
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The funniest take is when women say OLD is bad for them because even though they get so many matches, they're all shit because all men are bad right? But somehow the few matches men get are these beautiful princess boss babes. Low key misandrist vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:15 PM
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Who are these people? Are they an influencer couple
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:13 PM
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The whole “men are going to college less so therefore women are doing better” misses some key points. Men are more likely going into trades/construction that don’t require a degree and can make good salaries. Women choose degrees with a much lower earning potential at a higher rate than men. So men pick degrees that make more usually (stem is one). The issue is much more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:28 PM
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I've failed almost every date i've been on with a bunch of different strategies? Should I try to be a fully out there red-pilled tatester?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:19 PM
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Wait you have a gf now? I thought you were single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:27 PM
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Most of the people commenting sound insufferable to be around lol And this is the dating pool for guys these days 🤮🤮🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 11:16 PM
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This place has seriously gotten a lot more boring. If there’s one good thing about the inkwells, at least they’re funny. Blue pillers are so unfunny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:33 PM
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Was having what I thought was a good conversation on hinge with some girl and she hit me with “whats a smart guy like you doing on hinge?” and then unmatched me before i could come up with a response. Do women expect men on apps to be dumb? Why be on them if that’s the case lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:39 PM
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Clearly women don’t understand Jack shit about the male experience either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 08:44 AM
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But if having a college degree is a bare minimum for a lot of women, that instantly destroys the credibility of “the bar is on the floor argument” because the majority of people and men do not have a college degree. The bar is most definitely not on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:41 PM
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Other than abortion they could be liberal. The last two you said are more personal preferences, nothing to do with politics. I think you’re just blinded by the idea that liberal men do struggle because in your mind liberal=good so good men should do well. Life doesn’t work like that. And I’m a liberal guy and I would know. I struggle a ton
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:28 PM
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Wait what are you basing liberal men rarely struggling to date? Incels lean liberal themselves. That is a crazy take lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:12 PM
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lol I saw this pretty upvoted post on twox saying “I keep telling men who struggle at dating to become liberal, women are throwing themselves at liberal men.” Like how can you be that obviously wrong. That is trump tariffs level of willful ignorance/delusion/stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:08 PM
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No usually it’s just off campus, I didn’t really go to many parties though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:57 PM
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The college I went to and the friends colleges I went to. I mean there is someone there usually covering doors, but they just let women through the vast majority of the time, unless there is some occupancy issue. It is mostly to keep out guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:00 PM
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Woman can to any party they want in college and will get in no questions asked. If they choose not to is their choice. Men don’t have that same option, but the men who do (like ones in frats) are much more likely to take that option to meet whatever women are there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:41 PM
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I mean you’re a woman. That’s different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:35 PM
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I don’t get the point of blue pill then. Ultimately blue pill doesn’t even disagree with red pill, all it states is “red pill isn’t sufficiently proven.” If it disagreed with red pill it would require an alternate view to actually create the disagreement. As it stands it’s just neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:28 PM
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One thing I’ve noticed about these sorts of blue pill vs red pill gender debates is that everything revolves around whether or not the red pill is right. The blue pill is just a rejection of red pill, but blue doesn’t offer anything in return as an explanation for current gender dynamics. It’s just saying “no” to red pill. Which ultimately makes it tough to contend with because it doesn’t say anything which makes it useless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 04:41 PM
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I’m not sure what narrative you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:05 PM
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Bro some of these blue pulled women talking about their bf’s is hilarious. I’d hate to be that bf for sure. It’s like my bf is shorter than me, not muscular at all, makes less than me, has a smaller dick than all of the other guys I’ve dated. But he’s so kind, emotionally available, and treats me right unlike all those other guys. I’m just like I hope to never be that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:33 PM
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Damn being a woman is just so ridiculously easy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:04 PM
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This video is fake
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:18 PM
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Sadly I’m not gay :(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:46 AM
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Uh no it isn’t. How do you not know what the black pill after spending a decent amount of time here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:31 PM
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I’m not a black piller
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:27 PM
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I wish I were gay or a straight women. Dating women sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:12 PM
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Wait wasnt it originally 18-21 bmi or am I tripping?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:02 PM
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I explained that Tesla is more than Elon and he is not super involved.It is weird to root for a company to fail only due to a jackass CEO. Tim walz had a bad take and then you made a really stupid assumption about me with nothing to back it up. Take the L
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:13 PM
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Who said I had no critique of Elon musk? That is a wildly incorrect assumption lmao. I have a large amount of criticism of Elon’s political actions and actions within the current administration. It just wasn’t the focus of the comment. I just am not going to root for the company to fail, especially since I have lots of personal investment in the company through index funds and also consider it an important company in the ongoing fight against dirty sources of energy. Tesla is a massively positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:06 PM
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It’s kinda weird to deride joy from a company failing. It’s not like Elon is super involved with Tesla at this point. You’re essentially rooting for the failure of an organisation that employs tens of thousands of people, including many Americans Edit: many Americans are also invested in Tesla through owning shares, through index funds, 401k, pensions. Just an overall bad take from walz
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:30 PM
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Women are the primary enforcers of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:22 PM
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Yeah women use them wrong. They Chad chase and then get pumped and dumped. Then they get angry and delete
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:54 PM
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Yeah women’s spaces/women centered hang outs seem awful to me from the outside. There’s a reason the stereotype/joke exists of the guy trying to find a way out whenever a girls night is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:54 AM
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We can
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:16 AM
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You sound like an NPC that can’t put together an original thought lmao. Your answer doesn’t even have to do with my origins looking, fails to understand that IRL isn’t even much different from an app, and also fails to account for the fact that the majority of dates begin through online dating now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:46 PM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about. Making a male profile on a dating app and trying to date women would easily show you why a lot of men feel this way. It has nothing to do with influencers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:12 PM
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You don’t think that guy has had bad experiences with woman either that are informing his opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:07 PM
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if they want kids, which most men (and people do), you can't really blame them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:48 PM
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that's a decline overall due to inflation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:34 AM
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You’re not hearing about it in real life, you’re hearing anonymous accounts on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:26 PM
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Damn gloves are off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:31 PM
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Yes because we actually have no idea if her parents failed her and even if they did that is no excuse to do what she did. The commenter is doing all they can take away blame from a woman. Doubt she does that with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:15 PM
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Common women black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:57 PM
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lol open up a thread on the female school shooter from twox and top comment so far was “she was a 15?year old kid whose parents failed her.” The pro-women bias, the lack of agency afforded to women. Pretty disgusting to see
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:53 PM
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Probably not happy in their own lives and using this sub as a way to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:36 PM
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34 isn’t middle age
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:32 PM
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I think it’s just being attracted to women that sucks, that lesbian divorce rate doesn’t look too hot!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:14 AM
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Funny I wish were gay as a man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:56 AM
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Modern Feminism is really losing any credibility it had left so quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:05 PM
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It’s really terrible and remember anyone who talks about this tuff is misogynistic Tate loving incel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:38 PM
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But why not continue the ghost then if she’s not interested? She’s shown she’s willing to just not text me to show lack of interest. I’m probably not gonna pursue because I hate the games but I just fundamentally misunderstand how this process works. I feel like I’m missing something in my makeup regarding the human courtship process. This type of stuff happens so often
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:33 PM
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I’d normally agree but an extremely quick “panic” text that some here are calling it does indicate interest to me. But I’m an expert obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:08 PM
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Assuming she actually does have interest in me, I don’t really get how you could forgot that. Like wouldn’t it kinda eat at you that you are ghosting (in the guy’s mind) a possible romantic prospect that you truly do have interest in? That would be on my mind until I dealt with the issue. If him double texting is causing you to want to panic text back, I don’t understand how would just completely forget the left hanging text. My brain just can’t comprehend that thought process. Maybe it’s becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:03 PM
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It’s not gonna work out for her lol, because I doubt I will go out with her again. The text I just sent was more of a text to possibly get feedback/I don’t like being left hanging like that, it’s cathartic for me to send out a “Why the ghost text” I fully expected to get nothing and assumed it was over and this strategy doesn’t really endear me to her. I’ll likely break it off anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:56 PM
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What’s the point of waiting for me to text twice? Is it a game that she thinks will get me to like her more?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:52 PM
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Can some women explain this to me? I don’t speak women I go on a date with a girl, seemingly goes well, both say we’d be interested in talking/meeting again. I text a pretty normal after date text like “had a good time, would love to see again.” Get nothing back for like 4 days, then I send a message, saying “why stop contact? Thought we had a good time.” Then I instantly within like a minute get a text back saying sorry I’ve been busy would love to meet again… Like if you were able to send that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:46 PM
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Liberal women are much more attractive than conservative women for a few reasons. They skew younger. They skew unmarried and single, less likely to have let themselves go. They are less likely to have children, which changes a woman’s body, generally for the negative from an attractiveness standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:29 PM
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Yeah it does, welcome to a massive modern problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:09 PM
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Yes, this has been pretty consistently shown across almost all countries
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:52 PM
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I swipe left on any women with “princess treatment” in bio. Ick
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:43 PM
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How we do know he’s an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:43 AM
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Ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:57 AM
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What is this guys “field”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:54 AM
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I also agree he’s not Meeks. Meeks got model contracts lol. This guy won’t get that. The ceo killer also did a crime that is morally justifiable for a lot people, especially younger and more left leaning women. That halo adds to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:50 AM
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He’s not like model tier good looking, but he’s definitely an attractive guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:46 AM
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Or dating really is that tough for dudes these days
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:45 AM
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lol blue pillers use studies that state someone has had sex in the past year as then being sexually satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:57 AM
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It’s hilarious that the one lesbian here doesn’t like the women 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:36 PM
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What’s this ppd date thing, have they actually gone on an IRL date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:10 PM
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Who are the three
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:58 AM
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The stock market has been amazing for my 401k/roth ira
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:25 AM
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Shower
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:20 AM
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You as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:46 AM
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Just being real
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:34 AM
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I’m not being mean at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:31 AM
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The women who come here treat it like a zoo. To them, we’re just their entertainment as they can’t really empathize with male struggles. It’s just watch and enjoy the show. Maybe a little poking and prodding here and there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:26 AM
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Why would any person not be afraid of unrequited romantic feelings? Seems quite natural
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:23 AM
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I don’t understand. Many men will say they “got friendzoned” and then remove themselves from the relationship or decide that being friendzoned is ok because they like the platonic relationship enough. I don’t see how your comments shows why the concept doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:12 AM
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Remember women have extraordinarily high standards on male attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:56 AM
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That doesn’t make sense. Just because the concept wasn’t named doesn’t it mean it didn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:35 AM
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Wait what? Every looking man is afraid of the friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:59 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 12:44 AM
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Has what worked
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:07 AM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:53 AM
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No it’s not just useless, it’s actually actively negative to your dating prospects. Listening to women talk about dating is one of the most destructive things a man can do for his success
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:03 PM
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This looks fake/staged
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:51 AM
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No you wouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:02 AM
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Meeting your own standards isn’t really relevant. It’s about what yo can attract and you obviously can’t attract what you want. Think about your desire for a 40-50 year old man who is monogamous and has no kids. What has that guy been doing for thirty years? Why did he not have kids before if he was monogamous? It’s much more likely someone who is monogamous and has no kids at your age will fit your subjective definition of unattractive or weird because it’s clear they were unwanted for so long.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:02 AM
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You probably just have a lucky group then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:58 AM
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I mean that could depend on the types of women. Twenties women have it especially easy so they don’t have much to complain about but 30s single women definitely complain a lot because of the biological pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:41 AM
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Your standards are too high. No kids while being monogamous at 40-50 is hard to find. Also weird is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you as it’s so subjective, you can have it mean whatever you want at any point. The others are fair, but the ones I mentioned will make it difficult for you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:22 AM
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On Reddit maybe, women don’t complain as much on the internet (though that is changing) but in society, women complain to their friends, family, therapists, etc. just as much as men do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:17 AM
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Yeah I’d probably add that but either way I’d still take the first room
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:34 PM
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The second has a bunch of extra unneeded stuff everywhere which clutters up the room. The first is much spacier, I prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:20 PM
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It doesn’t look dirty at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:13 PM
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Is this a self own? The first room you linked looks way better lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:10 PM
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Yeah when I talk to people about the stuff they usually say it will get better and im like no this is gonna get much much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:22 PM
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I honestly don’t even care that much myself that I will never find a partner, but I feel bad for my mother. She still holds out hope and will try to give me advice sometimes. It will ultimately crush her once she finally realizes it will ever happen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:59 PM
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It’s funny that the only person in real life I heard say this was a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:48 PM
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You’re right though the thing is my profile is improved a lot from a year ago and I think my opener now was better than a year ago. It’s possible I just made the cut a year later when I didn’t the first time. Im the same guy but the pictures+profile+opening line were just better so now I get a chance? It’s kinda maddening if you think about it, modern dating is fucking wack If she likes me in person then I think I’m ok to continue though it kinda feels bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:11 AM
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In light of that post on if you'd take someone back if they ghosted you, I have a girl i matched with like a year ago. However, she didn't respond ever to a chat I sent like a year ago. Now, I matched with her again, she was responsive this time, and we went on a date and she wants go on another. Is that cuck behavior of me to entertain her after her not ever chatting with her? She may not even remember me from when I matched with her before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:39 AM
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Well there’s your answer. Modern dating as a dude is ridiculously difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:43 AM
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Are you a man? The expectations are higher for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:35 AM
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I have many male friends and most are single but some are coupled. I’d say it’s about 2/3 single, 1/3 single. It’s a group of men mostly in late twenties, some mid twenties and maybe a couple early thirties. No one has kids. I have a couple female friends mostly through my sister. Yes, there is no family member I have any issue with. I would say I don’t have trouble networking but I do have trouble making platonic friends. Most of my group of friends are from connections from long ago (childhood…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:43 PM
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Men are much better at dating than women. Women don’t have to actually try
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:04 PM
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Are you in Scandinavia or like the Netherlands or something lol? Because 6’1 is top 20% most places. Decent physique is probably top 20% as well. Average physique is honestly pretty off putting when so many people are just fat. And 7/10 face is top 30% at least probably higher. You realize having those all together as a package puts you higher right? Because these traits are not distributed in a way that they are 100% correlated (though there is some correlation like physique and face will have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:03 PM
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Or you’re underestimating yourself. 7/10 face with your height and decent physique is better than top 30%. You’re underestimating yourself to make his argument look weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:21 PM
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I would honestly be fine if women just admitted they had it easier in dating and relationships than men. I don’t need it to become fair (men have advantages in some things as well). It’s this stupid insistence from women that it has to be equally as bad or even worse for women somehow because women just need to have everything be worse. Then we just get women having to tie themselves in knots arguing that having way more options is somehow really bad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:57 PM
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yes, it really doesn't help the bluepiller arguments lol, it's almost worse for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:09 AM
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It’s likely not a monogamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:05 PM
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But physical attractiveness for men is more than being “pretty.” That’s a very feminine way of looking at it. Men are judged heavily on height and muscles and masculine features that wouldn’t normally be described as “pretty.” Men are in the gym all the time working on their appearance and also working on how to fashion their facial hair (an important secondary sexual characteristic).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:14 PM
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Yes I believe so. If we all had the sex drive of men, humanity would end up being a chaotic unproductive mess. It would lead to lots of kids with little parental oversight while everyone is just fucking about. The birthing sex having the sex drive of men wouldn’t make sense because we need them to be more discerning in who they have kids with in order for them to want to stay and bond and nurture the child. However, everyone having the drives of women would lead to humanity just going extinct at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:07 PM
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I think what we should really say is that the average man desires the average women more than the other way around due to differences in sex drive/hormones/etc. That does lead to the appearance that the average women is more attractive, yes, but it is more due to men, not women necessarily being more attractive. If men and women had equivalent sex drives we wouldn’t see this happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:48 PM
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When is my situationship with a BPD girlie gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:32 PM
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Sometimes when I see comments on twox about how a women is super fine single, doesn’t need a man, is not trying to date, I will do a little investigation. And I will find in the post history multiple comments on dating subreddit of them freaking out about being single worried about not being able to have a family. I wonder if some of these “I am fine single” are like a coping mechanism. It can feel therapeutic to write down how you want to feel in that moment and maybe it helps idk. I’ve also ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:09 PM
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But overall the standards for casual encounters are higher. Less men are able to consistently have casual sex with women because the looks, charisma and sexual prowess standards are so high. More men can fit into the long term category.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:39 AM
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Woman have much higher standards for casual in regards to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:34 AM
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You really a blue pill man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:35 AM
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The standards are ridiculously high for men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:20 PM
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I have one sorts female friend and then my sister has a lot of female friends who I would say I am acquainted with. I much prefer male friends though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:15 PM
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What was retracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:59 PM
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The study about how men were way more likely to divorce their wives who got sick was retracted… Seems like a lot of these pro-feminist studies end up getting retracted or massively misinterpreted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:35 PM
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Male delusion on display
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:34 PM
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This is like the dudes calling Margot Robbie mid thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:17 PM
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Female delusion on display
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:11 PM
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Youre equating the terms having sex and having bad sex in the past year. Would someone who had 11 months ago with a one night stand be categorized as having sex currently? Your data doesn’t fit the claim you’re making
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:53 PM
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Your post doesn't corroborate your main point that the "vast majority of young men are having sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:59 AM
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The true value in the experiments is the positive responses, the seven dates he got with relatively attractive men who were a convo, were not creepy, were not instantly sexual. Those were shown to us and not cherry-picked. The point of the experiment was someone saying “do x in seven days” And he showed us doing x in like a tenth of the time. It’s quite possible that he lied about the lack of negative responses he got, but the seven dates he got in under a day is undeniably telling. You absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:16 PM
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He’s talking the original definition of incel. Most at least semi involved in the incel community use it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:13 PM
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Online dating for women is just chad chasing. They leave because they get pumped and dumped enough times and get sad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:44 PM
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Do women really go there to be met? All I hear is they go to those places to have fun, drink, hang out with friends, and dance. There really isn’t a 100% guaranteed place to meet women they every women will think is good. So cold approaching anywhere but obviously bad places is not such a bad idea. You’ll get rejected but there is good volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:49 PM
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What physical attributes fit the female gaze?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:44 AM
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Just take the L.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:22 AM
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This thread is great so far and honestly ends ppd for women. Any time a women talks about dating being hard or as bad or worse for men, link them this and end the convo. Remember boys, it really is THAT easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:57 PM
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Or the guys you’d consider are just above average and your standards are higher than you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:53 PM
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lol what how could this guy possibly be the average guy. you are delusional. i get it now, it all make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:36 PM
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lol the guy who did the OLD as a women thing actually showed that it's easier for women than i thought. Women have been gaslighting us all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:34 PM
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the women isn't either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:26 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:39 AM
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If I have children, I hope I have a daughter. I definitely don’t want to bring a son into this world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:50 AM
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I’m lean athletic build but really tall. So I’d date a really tall women potentially. Looking up WNBA player weights LMAO and I think 160 range is prob highest on a tall women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:23 AM
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I mean if she was super tall and had a good fat distribution, maybe. But there probably too far for me on most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:17 AM
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205 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:14 AM
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lol she better be way lower than my weight, ain’t no way I’m trying to date a chick over 200 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:12 AM
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Survivorship bias
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:15 AM
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Yes, and the height is on the profile so it should be known.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:47 AM
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I mean yeah I’m noticed for sure, mostly by guys though tbh. Guys will size me up I can tell lol. But a girl asking how tall are you doesn’t mean they auto want to fuck you. I feel like I’m so tall it’s more of a novelty thing, where it’s not normal for someone to see someone so tall. My face isn’t great so I’m not like an attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:45 AM
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How do? I do feel like I do a bit better in person, but I just thought it was because OLD is just so male dominated, the standards are higher
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:41 AM
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Height is overrated lol I’m 6’5 and barely get matches on OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:28 AM
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This is more apex fallacy stuff. Women think a lot more men are capable of doing this than actually happens. The vast majority of men are not bedding women after a first date. This statistically just doesn’t happen much. The vast majority of sex is happening in a committed relationship, with a few men having lots of casual sex with women that want casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:58 PM
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The biggest thing for me is that attractive women are very rarely alone in bars/clubs. They are mostly with at least a few other people mostly women, meaning you have to entertain all of them at once, which is difficult. The classic pick up that happens where some guy just sits down next to this gorgeous women sitting alone at a bar is just so fake and ridiculous I have to laugh when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:55 PM
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But these women only have casual sex with few attractive men. The benefits of it are not dispersed in anyway to the majority of the male population. So it’s functionally irrelevant to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:18 PM
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It doesn’t really come out like that though. Women are open to casual sex with a few very attractive men, which leaves most guys without it. More of both genders (but primarily women) are opting out of relationships, for a variety of reasons, leading to many men just without any sort of romantic or sexual intimacy. On net, we’re actually having less sex. Some women who do casual and a minority of men have a bunch of casual, fewer in relationships have consistent sex, and then a lot more have spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:10 PM
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I am not child free
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:32 AM
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That may be true, but your original comment was about having kids, not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:13 AM
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Not really. The birth rate is way down. less people are having kids nowadays, especially in urban areas. It’s actually one of the only silver linings of this horrible dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:09 AM
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Eww
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:23 AM
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I mean if I treated them all the exact same, there’d be no flirting, no physical escalation, no IOI’s. All of that is wrapped under better treatment. Unattractive women get basic politeness and conversation if I’m a social setting, just like men. If that difference makes me a simp, whatever I’m a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:29 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:16 AM
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About the same for women I’m not attracted to and worse for women I’m attracted to. If I’m attracted to a women, I will try to win her over and that involves better treatment than a man gets. For women im not attracted to, I try very hard to not treat them better than random men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:07 AM
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I think, especially on the internet, there may be a a bit of a circlejerk in regards to standards among the genders that leads to any taking the most extreme stance to fit in and seem “correct” in their gender. Men tend to say they have basically no standards, willl fuck anything, will swipe on anything, while in real life I see men having much higher standards than that. Whereas women are the opposite. I see women saying pretty crazy stuff with ridiculous checklists and crazy high standards. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:36 PM
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Yeah online dating is a joke for guys, but I think most people are aware at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:01 PM
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But the compliments don’t really do anything, especially from friends and family who are already biased towards you. A compliment from my mother or best friend doesn’t get more matches on a dating app, or get me promoted, or help me lose fat. Certain compliments honestly just make me feel worse because it feels slightly inauthentic when the reality is so different from the compliments you get. And women are not immune to this. I’ve talked to plenty of women who know the female friend group cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:29 PM
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I think the compliment argument is overstated. I receive compliments a lot from other men and women, and my friend group does as well. We like to gas each other up, but it doesn’t really do all that much for my overall self confidence. I don’t really care about compliments all that much. I care more about results in things I care about. Doing well in school, work, getting stronger at the gym, doing well with women, having a good social life. The compliment itself doesn’t mean much, it’s actions …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:18 PM
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It really doesn’t. The only one it might have is specific academic departments in universities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:08 PM
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You’re probably right about the men, but it’s still mostly young, liberal men. The women are just normal women and don’t feel a lot of connection to feminism. Some of them aren’t necessarily anti-feminist, just neutral towards it. They don’t really care for it either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:06 PM
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Maybe but I haven’t seen feminism spoken positively IRL in a while. Men obviously hate it and the women I’m closest to don’t like it. It’s online where I see people be pro-feminist. And political winds have actually shifted conservative in the west though it’s a reaction to multiple different things. I am liberal myself, but it’s hard not to see the trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:33 PM
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Feminism is definitely losing credibility in the west. Even liberals I talk to IRL don’t speak of it positively and many girls are turned off by it. It’s contained on the internet and twox type places
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:22 PM
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What data says 2/3 of young men are sexually active?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:18 PM
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The majority of men are not doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:33 PM
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And it’s funny because women always hate those types of guys, and yet they pull the most quality women of non celebs/athlete dudes. And it’s not even looks, it’s career oriented, ambitious, pretty, well socialised women that end up with these stereotypical white frat guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:21 PM
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It’s not. Weightlifting in the gym and interest in financial markets are just traditional male pursuits. Men also tend to be more conservative, which you’re seeing. You’re just interacting with normal men. Nothing to do either he red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:35 PM
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Lol at thinking going to the gym and talking about stock exchanges means you’re red pilled. What a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:31 PM
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That’s cuz they’re not and studies don’t say that. Happiness studies generally say married people are the happiest and the ones that said single, childless women were the happiest was misinterpreted by the author and who came out to say not to use the studies .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:27 PM
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Women are just built different man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 AM
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Where do you meet all these women? Every day it feels like you come out with these stories about meeting women, some of them all over you. Are you the biggest chad ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:10 PM
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Why can’t you be with a late bloomer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:51 PM
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It’s because women care mostly about the best genetics. Genetics don’t need work, you just have them. The idea that you needed to work to become attractive and were therefore a late bloomer is repulsive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:41 PM
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That’s awful for the guys business lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:08 PM
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Wow that’s amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:04 PM
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If the bar is on the floor for men, then what in the hell is the bar for women? I can’t even come up with a word to describe. The best way to describe it would be lower than the depiction of hell in Dante’s inferno.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:59 PM
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If women were to experience online dating as a man, they’d instantly want to be a woman again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:27 AM
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I understand why they’re leaving, i just don’t have any empathy for their issue. I’d give anything to be in their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:36 AM
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boohoo, it's the same for men except we have substantially less matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:04 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 01:02 AM
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I’ve noticed they’re much more desperate for male attention than twox types who always say they hate the male attention and never do anything for men. I’m reading stories where some of these FAwomen will fall for random dudes for making like a couple nice comments lol this is real sad stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:44 AM
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The foreveralonewomen subreddit is actually really depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:24 AM
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I actually seethe more inside when I see an ugly dude with a hot girl. Because it is a hot girl taken out of circulation without the corresponding attractive dude… seeing a tall guy with a hot girl doesn’t really mean anything because it’s two attractive people taking each other out of the market
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:03 AM
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what is the thing you value most in the world? In a romantic partner or just in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:41 PM
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so by this logic... why would i ever do that? i would have to lower my quality of life in the area that is most important to me in order to be with a man. Maybe this is just a difference in the way men and women think. But I would 100% do that. The idea that I would not begin an otherwise good relationship because we have different ideas of the quality of the living space (either worse or better than me, though I guess i wouldn't want to date a really bad slob) is absolutely unthinkable to me. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:33 PM
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Honestly this is one of your best. Tying in the emotional labour stuff is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:20 PM
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I don’t agree with that definition. Every relationship in existence has something in it that it changed would cause the relationship to end. Many relationships would end if the man lost his job or if the women was less attractive or even vice versa. What if someone’s personality completely changed, they become a bad person and they broke up. Was it an abusive relationship because it only existed based on the personality of that person? No relationship is unconditional… The condition of this rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:16 PM
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Depends on the behaviour, violence, manipulation, gaslighting, stuff like that women shouldn’t tolerate but I do think men would prefer that women not care as much about certain niceties. Women generally have a higher standard on what is considered clean, care more about stuff like decoration, have less need for material things etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:03 PM
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No but what is the abuse exactly here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:55 PM
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But he is open and transparent about his issue being the fatness. To me it’s more that he’s being quite harsh with her but not abusivep
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:53 PM
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No, standards encompass both the treatment and looks. And women care about both. Men are saying to lower the looks standard while women think men are saying tolerate worse behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:49 PM
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I notice when women on twox type rants say they will never lower their standards, theyre mostly talking about some behaviour they won’t tolerate. Whereas when men talk about women lowering standards to find different guys to date, it’s about looks. It’s like the two groups are talking past each other but using the word standards which is inherently vague
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:32 PM
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Bro you might be onto something. You’re a visionary…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:02 PM
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Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:31 PM
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You can fear looming death if seeing a man. I was answering based on how I would personally feel in they situation. The bear would evoke a much more significant response, while a man might evoke that response for certain women. The actually relative survival rates of a bear vs encounter would be in favor of the man though. There’s a reason they have signs in certain parks warning about bears and not “man signs.” The people tasked with the safety of these parks believe bears to be a bigger threat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:44 PM
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I meant they’d rather face the women than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:08 AM
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Get jacked with a beard and since you’re tall being super intimidating can be attractive to some women. You can’t be a pretty boy bald you gotta go full warrior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:20 AM
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As do I, which is why choosing the man is the clear answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:42 AM
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This may just be a difference in the way men and women tend to think. When you give me a hypothetical, I’m gonna answer it seriously. Men do these sorts of debates on different hypotheticals all the time, we actually want to know. And answering the way many women seem to does appear possibly offensive or stupid or just as a way to virtue signal (in the relative survival way to answer the question, which is the way men tend to think). If you want to represent that feeling, just talk about that fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:32 PM
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Yes, that’s I said sort of, but I would easily still choose the man over the bear. The bear is more frightening to me and I believe it to be dangerous as well. And men can rape men as well. Men can also murder other men. An also beat you up and steal resources (probably the most likely violence scenario in this situation).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:23 PM
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Sort of, but not exactly. I would definitely have a fearful response and be suddenly on my toes if I saw a stranger man. A bear would cause me to internally freak the fuck out and honestly fear looming death. You could say my responses to both situations are similar but all of those internal mechanisms producing that fear in my body would just be heightened with the bear. The bear would scare me significantly more, but a stranger man would be scary too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:17 PM
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Your question would not have sparked nearly the offense the man vs bear one did. Most guys would answer women to your question for a few different reasons. Most guys took offense to being worse than an extremely dangerous wild Animal. Being worse than a human women isn’t quite the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:06 PM
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It is rare but I’ve met a few
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:33 PM
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One piece of empathy I have is for women who are not overweight and have undesirable looking faces. Men care heavily about looks obviously and if you stay in shape but are still ugly I get how that would be a bad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:30 PM
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It doesn’t directly, but people act like Reddit is this super misogynistic place, when it’s does actually skew liberal. IRL USA is really a pretty socially conservative place with traditional ideas about dating as compared to a place like Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:48 PM
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Real life is actually more pilled than Reddit. Remember 50% of this country is gonna vote for trump in November
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:22 PM
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How ugly are the women though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:26 PM
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I understand liking the constant support, but I’d much prefer more blunt constructive criticism than unabashed support. I know I’m not perfect but I know I’m not also the worst person ever. I’d want someone to be serious but not mean about my faults if I come to them with any issues I’m facing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:19 PM
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I feel like you’re probably gonna end up with an incel or an incel adjacent type. I feel like you’d vibe well with that doomerism, it’s just in opposite directions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:53 PM
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One thing that is interesting is ugly women who say they’re treated like shit by men when in reality they are just treated like men. And it’s not even necessarily bad, men generally treat new men with a sort of cold politeness, whereas women are much more externally joyful around newer women. And both aren’t necessarily wrong, it’s just women take the treatment as being like shit when in reality it’s reasonable way to treat someone. What has a new person earned to be treated so well? What respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:08 PM
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I am very aware of the modern dating scene lol, I’m currently in it. I’m not Chad and I get liked by land whale type women a decent amount on apps and some have been decently clear that it would be easy to hook up with them. Obviously they want chad but they will still go lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:55 PM
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You actually don’t if the girls are ugly and fat enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:48 PM
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Damn that sucks good luck on your looksmaxxing journey
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:34 PM
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Does that include yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:30 PM
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How would you decenter women as a man or vice versa for a women when every cell in your body is programmed specifically to reproduce. It seems futile to fight against our basic makeup as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:15 PM
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The obsession with therapy is hilarious. I’ve been multiple times and I wasn’t able to gain much from it. It’s good to have a person to talk to I guess but I didn’t see it really helping my mood or improving my myself in any way. I think therapy in general is catered more to the emotional needs of women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:31 PM
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Married couples are statistically happier so it’s not completely ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:51 PM
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I dont really have much interest in casual sex. I want a serious relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:38 PM
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Weird situation. Was having a good convo with a women online, I ask her out she doesn’t respond for a while, like multiple days. I was interested and even double texted like an idiot… Then she finally gets back to me and wants to go out, but I had basically already mentally checked out of it. I feel like it’s a case of all her other options went cold and I was like a backup. Not sure if I’m gonna go out tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:54 PM
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My mother is an anti-vax trump supporter who believes trump should have tried to get pence to throw out the election in 2020 and I couldn’t even think about distancing or cutting off my mother. And they is much much worse than relatively tame red pill stuff. The dad wasn’t even in that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:38 PM
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I honestly feel bad for you at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:20 PM
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Women, easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:19 AM
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I would not date either probably but the single mom is overall better. Being is a single mom is another one of my biggest dealbreaker as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:50 PM
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For me it’d be fine because it’s obviously sarcastic, since I’m a bigger guy. If I actually were little and was called that, I definitely wouldn’t like it idk if I’d be mad though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:19 PM
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Fat is worse for me. It’s really that bad tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:48 PM
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Functionally what you’re saying might be true, but perception is what matters. It’s true that you might not necessarily be worse off without the experience, but A women will wonder why you haven’t been in one and be less likely to want to start one with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:46 PM
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The most important thing for a women in dating is not to be fat. It dwarfs anything else. A fat women has no right to complain about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:41 PM
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It ain’t all virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:34 PM
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Honestly I think many here and even some of the women have some thoughts about you they’re not putting into comments…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:32 PM
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But they want Chad and are willing to stay single for an indefinite period of time if they don’t get it. If we believe women and their libido is more reactive, they can just go awhile without sex and then when they feel the need to have a relationship they compromise and date the average joe that she rejected a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:44 PM
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Has there even been a PPD IRL meetup? How did it go if it happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:30 PM
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I am not attracted to overweight women and really like fit and toned women. I don’t been really care that much about a tits and ass if the body in general looks fit/toned I guess I like the commitment to health and fitness that shows. Tits and ass are genetic but fitness is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:15 PM
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They can talk about the dating environment in high school, in college, dating apps, and many have a fake ID and can get into those places anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:09 PM
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Yes the ppd men are so bad and the ppd women so good yet we’re both still here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:04 PM
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Wouldn’t that be similar to the internet itself? The English speaking internet is mostly younger white men and suburbs are the most heavily populated areas if you look at demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:01 PM
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It’s too vague to be of any use
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:28 AM
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I don’t think there are many here who claim to be Chad though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:35 AM
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The competition for healthy (19-21 bmi) women is very high
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:51 PM
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Where is it more common to see it? Urban? Rural? Suburban? I am in a suburban area and have lived most of my life in that type of area
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:26 PM
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I mean I go to stores and walk on sidewalks, I just don’t see it much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:22 PM
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I am a pretty observant person and like to really people watch a lot and I honestly rarely ever see women get hit on by men in a non bar, party, or club setting. It definitely happens sometimes, but it’s so rare that I’ll legitimately think to myself “wow that dude is spitting some game, hope it goes well for him.” I know that I’m not the women so I may be missing it but it feels like I should see it much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:54 PM
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But he’s a doctor though, so??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:41 PM
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I want kids but not sure I’d want to pass on my hair genetics to a bio child. I have aggressive balding, I stopped it before it became bad with finasteride, but not sure I want to subject a child to that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:55 PM
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I mean it’s clearly doing badly like most of the other dating apps but I don’t think it’s close to bankruptcy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:18 PM
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How do you know it’s close to going bankrupt?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:34 PM
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Lol bumble making it so women don’t have to make the first move because too many women complained that it was too much of a burden to make the first move will never not be hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:16 PM
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I look at statements individually. And the statement you mentioned appears to be one in line with his Islam arc. Not really my thing because I despise organized religion but it seems he is basically pushing that as his thing now. The comment doesn’t really destroy the validity of comments he has made regarding modern dating, women’s standards, discussion on the importance of value for men, which would be more relatable to normal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:42 PM
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I’m not starting a relationship with Tate or any social media personality with the goal of spending the rest of my life with them. It’s simply just listening to things they say and saying I agree with this and disagree with this. I don’t think any social media personality I like has said nothing a bit unhinged in their time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:24 PM
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It’s not really cherry picking. People are allowed to think some things a person say are right and some aren’t. It’s the same with red pill grifter types. They have more moderate stuff that most men will relate to and extreme stuff that most won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:09 PM
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Most people pick and choose what they like from different ideologies, influencers, etc. It’s the same with the Bible as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:03 PM
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Been doing a little soul searching and I think the root cause of my issues are a lack of confidence that began in my adolescence due to body image issues. I was very tall and lanky then and people would make fun of me and ask if I was anorexic, including my family. So I basically developed this idea that I wasn’t man enough and too weak so no girls would ever like me. And I hated the way I looked, but now looking back at old pictures I definitely looked a bit awkward and really lanky but most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:57 PM
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That would work, but there are a few things I wouldn’t like about being a women. Having to go through pregnancy if I want a bio child and periods being the main issues. But being attracted to women is a curse so the ideal is just to be a gay man where it’s accepted (in a liberal area of a western developed nation) with being a woman as second.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:43 PM
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God I wish I were gay, dating would be so much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:27 PM
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Most women don’t end up with the most attractive guys who get visceral attraction from women. That’s just the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:12 AM
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But the thing is I don’t think saying no necessarily makes you look bad. Many women are the types that struggle to find visceral attraction to a dating profile unless the guy is very attractive to them. It’s not really a bad look for them imo People are much different in person when you see a 3d version of them, their mannerisms, their voice, presence. Men tend to be better in person
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:50 PM
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this is a good question, because i feel like the answer for most would definitely be no, and that honestly hits directly at the main problem in the dating market today. A dating profile just isn't the best way for a man to market himself in a romantic context. Never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:18 PM
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the women who justify anything in the name of the safety of women are literally the same as the politicians who answered "national security" to any question regarding how we responded to 9/11.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:29 AM
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Stop harassing me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:10 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:08 AM
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You can block them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:01 AM
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The girl blogger, they’re all pretty terrible so I’ll take the really hot chick
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:49 PM
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I would honestly like to date one of those vindicta chicks. Reading through the subreddits, it is much more relatable than women from places like Twitter and tik tok and obviously twox style women. I can relate to that struggle they have and it feels more authentic and honest to me than most other women. Some of the way the stuff is written feels very masculine in the way the go about thinking about the problems they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:03 PM
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Yes but every women answers for themselves, so they might not be an average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:40 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:24 PM
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It could be a dude who wants to rape and kill you but is 65, obese, heart problems, and can’t run up a flight of stairs without running out of breath
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:19 PM
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Another contribution to the man vs bear debate. Average dude is overweight, sedentary, not in shape and 40 years old. Depending on how in shape you are as a women, the dude might not even have the ability to do anything bad to you. Raping and killing does take effort
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:03 PM
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Oh yes because women don’t treat relationships as transactional power games lol It would be fun to live in your delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:05 PM
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So the same issues for men then, interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:03 PM
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One thing I love is that stock prices of online dating companies have been absolutely awful lately. They’re down so much from their peaks. Great to see such awful companies do poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:59 PM
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Problem is the competition is so tough for men that aiming for above average financially limits my options drastically. Also those above average women financially generally want the guy to make more than themselves, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:28 PM
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The question is random bear vs women to align it with the man vs bear question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:22 PM
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I would like to, but I make and have saved much more than the average women my age so I’d be at much higher financial risk in the marriage. I choose the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:13 PM
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Would you rather be married to a random bear or random women? At least the bear won’t take half so I take the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:05 PM
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No the whole point of my op is that you shouldn’t be offended by it. Because using the logic of the women, they should be picking a bear over a women too. So it doesn’t really matter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:48 PM
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Then talk about those unsavory experiences specifically. Because using the bear itself is a tik tok style gotcha that is used to dehumanize perceived enemies. We see it constantly with politics and it’s how discourse breaks down. You can still have the discussion regarding those experiences without resorting to hypotheticals that are meant to trash men. And men can rightfully call that out. I think you’re missing the forest for the trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:40 PM
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The problem is the hypothetical doesn’t really show men being the monsters you want them to be based on women’s own justification for it. If women are saying that using proper action, bears will ignore you and are harmless, then I’d choose the bear too. Why wouldn’t I? It doesn’t really show anything other men being more dangerous than a creature that WILL ignore you. Against you should also pick a bear over a random woman as well. The purpose is to bash men by likening them to a very scary and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:30 PM
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That’s not why it’s called self improvement. It’s called that because you’re improving yourself but it can be for a multitude of reasons. And again you just agreed with my point. You said most women do it for themselves. Most men don’t. We do it to improve for some external goal, primarily to attract women, make money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:22 PM
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All of it. I consistently hear women say they’re doing any sort of self improvement for other women or for themselves. Only time I hear men involved are in vindicta style subreddits, which is like black pill women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:17 PM
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If you look at the way women answer the bear question, they justify it by saying the bears won’t attack you. They’ll ignore you as long as you know the right set of actions. So they’re basically saying the bears are harmless as long as you do X. So don’t feel bad by them picking the bearover a Man. You think they’re saying men are really dangerous and scary creatures, when they’re not. They’re saying men are more dangerous than these harmless animals. No sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:09 PM
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But plenty of women complain that they get pumped and dumped or that there are no good men or that they men they want don’t want them. Most don’t complain they can’t get any male attention, they just want different attention from the right men. Haven’t they every thought they self improvement for men would help them there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:02 PM
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It’s interesting to me that women will swear up and down and try to make it abundantly clear that no amount of self improvement they do is ever for men. While dudes will pretty readily admit that one of the primary reasons they do stuff like go to the gym or improve their style is attracting women. Just an interesting difference in how men/women interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:56 PM
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But then if I were basing this on personal experience I would probably pick a man and not a women. The men I know have been more resourceful in these sorts of situations they would offset any sort of violence difference between men/women that would occur because it’s really likely no violence from a human would occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:05 PM
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Women on women sexual violence is more common than you’d think. Saying it’s minimal seems a bit off to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:55 PM
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But the question is in comparison to the random bear they believe is very likely to just ignore them. Have they done any sort of analysis on that risk? Because if they believe it’s very likely to ignore them, why even take a chance at a human women that can kill, rape, steal, defame you when you get back safely, etc.? How do they know the difference in aggressiveness from the man versus the woman is enough to make them more safe from the women? It doesn’t really make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:53 PM
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So what’s the issue then? Why wouldn’t this just be a human vs bear issue with the bear being picked? Why focus specifically on men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:41 PM
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The links are separate from the point that first steps are not all that is needed. That’s fine if you don’t believe me, I’m not going to dig through the links, not worth it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:39 PM
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One way to test whether a woman is being good faith referring to the man vs bear topic is their reaction if the question is bear vs. Women. Because the argument ultimately relies on the assumption that most of the bears will just ignore you as long as you don’t bother it, so the bear is the better option. The problem is that women have the same capacity for violence as men, and potentially have access to weapons to equalize any issues with strength. The risk factors for men would surely be a bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:36 PM
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No I have a problem when people act like the first steps are all that is needed. That’s been clear throughout.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:31 PM
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Sure they’re a precursor, it’s like a first step, but not even close to all you need
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:26 PM
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I have seen women say on twox type subreddits that all you need to get laid as a man are to shower and “have a personality”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:23 PM
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In the early dating stages men do the vast majority of approaching, asking on dates, planning dates, leading conversation, initiating conversation, escalating physical contact, and escalating sex and romance. Women need to look attractive and have basic social skills. Note men need both of those two, so it’s more like additions to what women have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:15 PM
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Lol if you think clicking to book a restaurant is all men do in early dating, you’re massively misinformed. I’m just assume you’re trolling…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:46 PM
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Men have to think about many many more things, a woman’s jobs on a date is to look pretty and have basic social skills. It is not even close to the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:36 PM
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Appreciate the positivity that you think she’s interested, now I just need to figure out how to stand out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:15 PM
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1 sentence 8-10 word response that is just an answer to the follow up I asked in my prior comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:12 PM
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What is the most likely explanation if on a dating app I’m getting quick responses from a woman but the answers are not great? Basically short, with an answer to the question but no questions answered after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:09 PM
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That should say “game” not “frame”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:35 PM
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I was hanging out with a gender group and one of the girls was showing her texts with a who was trying to get with her, and she read a text that was a pretty classic neg text. And everyone including the women were just like “yeah that was a great text, dude has game,” but according to PPD and twox most women would never fall for that and instantly write the guy off for being some negging red piller. Interesting how real life differs from the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:30 PM
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I mean a lot that stuff works sorta well. Nothing is really foolproof other than looking like Brad Pitt. Most dudes strike out a ton. If you want casual sex and you’re willing to fuck a lot of mentally unstable women the pick up artist stuff isn’t a terrible option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:21 PM
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The problem is in the past those undesirable men would be pairing up with undesirable women. Now due to the tough dating environment for men, more men are dropping out and turning to those other things which is almost like a snowball effect for their undesirability. But those undesirable women still desire a partner even if they’d prefer being single over being with an undesirable man. You can keep repeating that line but it ignores the fundamental problem that those women want a partner but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:19 PM
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And many are. But statistically married and partnered people are happier than single people. In general people want to partner up. It is true that single women are happier than single men, because they have access to more avenues for romance while single, but they’re still more unhappy than partnered women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:00 PM
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I mean it sounds like the guy is just coming up with terms to describe the phenomenons mentioned. For those natural guys they just kinda do it without really thinking, because they intuitively feel that it works. They don’t need a name for the technique, to practice it systematically, etc. But some guys (the ones who would benefit) literally need it spelled out like that. And remember this stuff is for pickup artistry, I.e. trying to get casual sex. Trying to get into a stable healthy relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:55 PM
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Possibly but those women will still be unsatisfied with their romantic prospects. The vast majority of people desire romantic companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:51 PM
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Problem is if enough men drop out of dating and just go only with porn and AI chat it’s, then there will be a corresponding amount of women lower on the totem pole who will end up single and unpartnered. Those lower dudes would have paired up 50 years ago but now they see porn and AI as a better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:44 PM
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Those types of guys do use the stuff in a book like that just unknowingly. They are naturals at it. They don’t need a book to teach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:38 PM
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It’s interesting because women tell on themselves with the gay comment and illustrate the fundamental problem. Women legitimately look at average and even some above average men like men look at other men from a sexual perspective. They are that turned off by the majority of guys which is completely counter to men who have a much broader range of interests in women. And even for some women who I’d say im not attracted to, I’d never think of them like I would for a man from a sexual perspective u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:56 PM
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Wait what im in finance and what advantages did she say men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:15 PM
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Interestingly I much prefer slim over curves for a couple reasons. One I like the look, but also I tend to think slim ages better than curves and a slimmer women is probably in shape taking care of her body whereas the curvier bigger women is just relying on the natural curves to her body. Once she ages and starts sagging a bit more she goes down in attractiveness. The skinnier stays hotter later with that slim build and staying healthy over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:02 PM
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Then I’m not average and i want an above average women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:04 PM
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The whole point is that people want it to be one way by making the argument and passing the legislation, and potentially ridding of the homeless if it works. Obviously there are both homeless and unloved people. It would possibly be fixed by government legislation. Remember we live in a democracy where many do not believe people have a right to housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:38 PM
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If you claim you are “inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment,” which in this case is love and you currently don’t have it, you’re crafted an argument for the government to provide it for you. That is the basis for the idea of government healthcare, free housing, free education. It’s not a slippery slope, it’s just one logical step forward of your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:25 PM
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No, in this case it is not a slippery slope. Once you use the words entitlement or right, you’ve forfeited the ability to call it a slippery slope. It is much more apparent in political discussions. It is super common to hear talk of healthcare, schooling, or housing being a right, with the talk of legislation to give people those things if they don’t have them intertwined. It is not a slippery slope, it is the literal next question once you call something a right. If something is a right, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:10 PM
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Peope are absolutely not entitled to a romantic relationship or sex. That’s crazy talk. That leads to the logic of stuff like government mandated partners. Because if you’re entitled to something that means you’re entitled to the labor of another person to perform that entitlement for you. That is slavery lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:41 PM
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Interesting hearing women talking about how they have a right to be loved or deserve someone who loves them, when that is the same thing as the incel argument referring men having a right to sex. Both require someone else to give the person something, and if you make it an entitlement, which is the definition of a right in their case, it is possibly against that someone’s will. Crazy stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:19 PM
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Yes, we can always just take the least charitable interpretation of men's actions. I could just easily say women are waiting around for a rich, hot man to pay for everything in her life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:34 PM
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This is completely counter to my experience. I see men slaving over women, doing tons of work to even get a chance to talk to a woman, with woman flaking, ghosting, showing little interest in dating, excessive standards, endless "icks." Your experience sounds fake to me, i struggle to see how that could be the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:06 PM
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Lol I don’t get how look at modern dating and say it’s men not trying. It’s like we live in different galaxies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:41 PM
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i literally was specifically asking about casual relationships But again, you didn't ask that. Why would the girl in the casual relationship be mad if he said he didn't have a girlfriend? It's a casual relationship. That's the whole point, there's no boyfriend/girlfriend label or exclusivity. Again, the better question would be just to ask if you are seeing anyone else, in any casual relationships, rather than asking if he's cheating on anyone. That's quite an odd thing to ask through text in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:06 PM
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it means he could be casually dating and fucking any number of women You didn't ask that though. First, you asked him if he was single, and then you asked if any girl would be mad if you said that. That implies you're not asking about any casual relationships. You're asking if he's deceiving any women that he's in a serious relationship with or has any sort of exclusive commitment with by presenting as single. Ask if he's fucking anyone else or in any other casual relationships. That's fine. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:46 PM
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You already asked him if he was single. And he said yes. He already confirmed it. You asked again for some reason. You might have meant in a joking manner but if it’s an early response on a dating app, it comes off badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:52 PM
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You don’t know if he actually was dating other people he may have just not liked that sort of comment from you that came off as untrusting at your core. I’ve dated women that would make comments like that early and usually they have a very negative view of men. He probably just didn’t want any of that, good for him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:30 PM
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Sure and women treat men they’re attracted to better as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:38 PM
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I didn’t say guys are treated like shut by other guys though, women are just so used to getting princess treatment from everyone else that being treated normally by a guy who isn’t trying to get into her pants is “like shit” to her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:06 PM
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Unattractive women complain that they are treated badly by men when in reality they are just being treated like other men. If there’s one thing I’ve learned from women it’s that they absolutely despise being treated like men by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:56 PM
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I can want to fuck someone without getting to know someone. Just looking at a person will tell me instantly if I’m down to have sex I though this was common among men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:32 PM
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Yes but those desperate guys were usually able to get something due to a stronger cultural expectation of monogamy, and women being oppressed legally and socially. Women needed men much more. We’re seeing the effects now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:08 PM
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the world is full of desparate guys, that's one of the reasons we're in the position we're in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:04 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:50 PM
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Currently obsessed with the interpreter women from shogun, thinking of buying a flight to Tokyo right now and just risking it all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:43 PM
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The word boundary is starting to annoy the shit out of me. I always see it written by super cringe misandrist feminazi twox types and it just gives me the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:40 PM
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But women only want top men and are willing to stay single if they don’t get it so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:24 PM
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I don’t really care if a woman is that bad at cooking. I mostly do meal prep and like to eat similar foods so it’s not really a big deal to have someone cook for me. And I’d I want a really nice meal I can usually go to a nice restaurant. I guess the only issue would crop up once we’d have to start cooking for our kids if we eventually had them, but we would cross that bridge when we get there. There’s many other things more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:28 PM
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Modern dating for men is like living through a black mirror episode but having the majority of society telling you that you’re awful and it’s all your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:19 AM
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And reading romance novels can lead to women having unrealistic expectations regarding romance, just as porn can lead to unrealistic expectations regarding sex. Also if you’re gonna ban a man from doing something due to being in an unethical industry, can he still a phone? Eat meat? You’re gonna have trouble enforcing that reasonably on yourself and your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:15 PM
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Why would you tell him not to watch porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:28 PM
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Q4W who say they would not date a man who watches porn: Are you ok with the guy in this situation saying you can not read romance novels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:44 PM
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But the base level of politeness and consideration doesn’t necessarily extend to suddenly dumping your life story suddenly. I hear women complain about them being their boyfriends unpaid therapist, so the base level of politeness and consideration doesn’t extend to large amounts of emotional support for women and I don’t think it should either. And guys complain that they can’t open up about anything with anybody including their female partners, friends, and family. The issue with men not openin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:38 AM
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The vast majority of people I meet have a base level of politeness and consideration. Its just in female-female friendships I have seen and read that they tend to be have more upkeep, maintanence, emotional discussions, physical intimacy, but I’ve also seen more female friendships end badly. The male friendships don’t really require upkeep and are more focused around doing something rather than talking through issues, unless something very serious happens and even then I don’t feel like much com…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:27 AM
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I mean the crux of the issue is because of the desire gap, women make men really giddy, horny, tingly, its much more powerful and for more of you than you feel towards us. That’s kinda why people talk about women “having won” we are essentially slaves to our desires for you. And women will not ever understand because they do not experience it, except for some trans people I guess. And men do not default to compassionate, kind, but they do not necessarily want it from male friends, male friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:07 AM
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Idk if I agree with that, I think it’s more that men in general have a bias towards women, they like them in general “women are wonderful” effect and women in general don’t really like men, but are sexually attracted to a few of them and can like certain men once they develop a connection towards them. It’s very hard for men to engage with new women because there’s so much inherent bias against us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:53 PM
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Most women end up settling with the guy on the lower end of the attractiveness scale for their specific type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:47 PM
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It’s def not true most men are attracted to lost women, that’s an exaggeration, especially because so many women are fat nowadays. However the proportion of women men are attracted t is FARRR HIGHER than the proportion of men women are attracted to. You can easily do this just walking down the street with a female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:46 PM
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Again as I’ve said before I believe you’re not fat but are above 21 bmi so you don’t want to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:32 PM
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Society is not black pill, so incels are wrong in that, but they are reacting to a society that is becoming increasingly black pilled especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:41 PM
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The one time I did it, it was positively received. I didn’t end up hanging sex with her but that was actually me saying no. Every time I have sent my dick to a woman they have liked it but any time other than that they asked for it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:32 PM
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Well I didn’t say that. In fact I implied the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:58 AM
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You’re illustrating my exact point with my post LOL, and with the ultra relevant flair to boot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:28 AM
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They are social skills, but they are not basic, as I said. The vast majority of people are not charming, witty, or very assertive, but most of those have basic social skills. These skills are characteristics of people with well above average social skills. Again this is where the argument changes to suit the needs of the arguer. First, it’s “you need basic social skills to do well with women, the bar is in hell” but now, once pressed, it’s really you need traits that Dre reserved for people with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:22 AM
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I think one thing women and blue pillers miss is the “social skills” answer isn’t the bulletproof suggestion they think it is. Having good basic social skills doesn’t get you anywhere. Basic social skills is being able to have pleasant conversations with friends, acquaintances, new people, co-workers. But it’s not really useful playing the male role in dating where assertiveness, aggressiveness, charisma, wit are required to be able to create sexual attraction in women. But those aren’t basic so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:14 AM
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I relate much to more men though. Even with bad men, I still understand the underlying reason why they are doing what they’re doing. With women, most of the time it just escapes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:46 PM
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I don’t get their motives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:43 PM
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No, ppd women arent going to give honest answers anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:37 PM
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Women are legitimately mysterious beings
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:30 PM
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Sure they are. It’s more of an issue for men right now, but to say women are also suffering from this dynamic is very wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:23 PM
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Most men see not specifically saying TRP, but they are absolutely making trp- style arguments. I’ve even seen dudes on more normie subreddits say stuff like “I’m not one of those incels” but then make a very standard red pill style argument. How about the terms about rules 1 and 2 and attractiveness? That’s essentially an uncle argument and it is pervasive on normal subreddits that are absolutely mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:03 PM
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I mean the second part tells me you ARE acknowledging at least some of the hints and feel too anxious maybe?? to actually act upon them. I completely understand being too in my head, I do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:38 PM
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At that point I would go for it if I’m interested. And honestly if I wasn’t interested, I’d probably say something to clear the air. The plausible deniability is gone at that point. There’s no possible explanation of “she was just changing and is comfortable with you.” But the hints we are talking about are not “women just randomly takes off bra in front of you.” That second part is on you, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:29 PM
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I mean there is plausible deniability there. She could be comfortable changing in front of you but see you in a platonic way. I would have done nothing, but obviously understood there was a possibility she was into me. I wouldn’t have missed the hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:19 PM
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I think the stereotype of men being dumb socially and not getting hints from women about romantic interest is pretty off-base. In reality, I get the hint, it’s just that hints from women are normally specifically meant to be ambiguous with some sort of plausible deniability. So, when I hear the hint, I’m either uninterested and just have found it best to ignore the hint and push through acting like it didn’t happen. Or I am interested but I’m very risk averse so I consider the possibility that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:14 PM
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I hate the arrogant "i don't owe you anything" response so common among women these days. It gives such license to be rude and asshole while shielding yourself from any accountability for your behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:54 PM
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Yep it’s why being attracted to women is a curse, I feel bad for lesbian women also
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:10 PM
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Im not attracted to men though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:07 PM
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Damn I wish I were gay. We’re at the point in modern society where the stigma of being gay is low enough that it outweighs the headache that is dating straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:52 PM
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Maybe they do give step by step, but they don’t just don’t see it working. I have wracked my brain and tried to understand for years why what women tell me on dating just seems like it doesn’t work at all. And now I’m starting to realize the advice is oriented towards different people. For example, a common thing I hear from women is that they don’t like guys getting sexually too quickly. They say slow down the physical escalation and get to know them better. Fair enough I’ll try that. When I’ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:22 PM
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This sub is a catch all for dating and gender discussions. It includes rants, discussion, argument, advice, trolling, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:10 PM
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This could also be extended to women on other subreddits like twox, dating_advice, anywhere where women talk about dating on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:07 PM
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You don’t need to be able to tell each other apart. But when picturing who you’re taking to, you’re picturing a generalized romantically unsuccessful man, which will cloud how you interact with people here. Not just advice but also just general commenting and discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:03 PM
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Once I realized the women here don’t want the men here to succeed it starts to make more sense. The idea of a man failing in dating with women, wallowing in it, and actually asking women for advice is a massive ick to them. Men should just be naturals and know what to do. The women here are picturing a creepy, weird loser living at home when they give advice. It’s oriented around minimizing uncomfortable interactions you might have with other women, not actually succeeding at dating. Remember, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:40 PM
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Already googled and could not find it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:33 PM
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Can you send me the link to the study that shows the rate of 35 year olds being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:33 PM
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The age of first marriage increasing is not related to the marriage rate. Just because the age is increasing does not mean the marriage rate is not decreasing. Because it absolutely is. And if most men at 35 are married that doesn’t tell me how they compare to prior cohorts at 35. I’d expect a lot more 35 year olds to have been married in older cohorts then todays 35 year old cohorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:49 PM
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Thats irrelevant to the modern dating market. Most of those people got married decades ago. Marriage rates, cohabitation rates, and birth rates are crashing for young people now. That’s who’s feeling the current crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:17 PM
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That makes complete sense for many reasons. Paternity uncertainty Differing sex drives in men and women Women finding less men attractive so many begrudgingly accept sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:37 PM
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I just don’t want to be considered a creep for cold approaching or face any public shaming for the approach. A polite rejection if she finds me physically unattractive is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:07 AM
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Ugly women don't get treated like shit, they just get treated by men like other men. If you think that's being treated like shit, that should tell you a whole lot about how other men are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:35 PM
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No piercings other than ears and no tattoos would be a good one for me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:41 PM
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Biggest gaslighting from women is the attempt to i online dating seem as hard as men because they have to sort and filter through all the options. More options are better objectively. Dating is a numbers game for both genders and having more bits at the apple is just better, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:30 PM
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I’m willing to make some compromises for a relationship with someone I could potentially spend my life with, but making the compromises for the dance class I don’t really want to go to in the hopes I meet a women is less enticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:39 PM
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I have tried some of them before at least. Most aren’t that interesting to me. The only one I’d consider is yoga and that is one im trying to fit in to my schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:34 PM
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I do lifting and sometimes running already as hobbies. What’s the play with that to meet women? Chat up/ask out any relatively attractive girl you see at the gym? They’re not conducive to meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:33 PM
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The problem is I am a relatively busy guy, I have a demanding full time job and want to fit in time with friends and family and get good sleep. General Life stuff takes a lot of time also. There are probably hobbies that I might like that have some women in them, but they would take away from the hobbies I prefer because my schedule is busy enough. For example I could join a hiking club but then I’d likely have to play bball less which I don’t want to do. Or I could join a co-es book club but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:27 PM
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They aren’t against hobbies that have women, they just prefer certain ones that happen to be male dominated. For me specifically, the things I actually like doing just don’t happen to have much interest from women. I wouldn’t say I am narrow minded, just that my interests themselves are a bit narrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:17 PM
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The problems with hobbymaxxing, which is the most popular way bluepillers say to improve success with women is, one, that many men do not have hobbies that trend towards gender neutral. The things they want to do happen to be mostly men, which makes sense, because they are a man. So it flies in the face of the idea of “be yourself.” Second let’s say a guy joins a hobby he doesn’t want to do to meet girls and actually does find a girl that he starts dating. At some point, the deception will come …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:11 PM
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GG
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:47 AM
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How many people were at the bar? If you were at a sports bar watching football that might be one of the only times guys actually more about the game than chatting up some girl
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:20 AM
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You'd rather be an average women than an average man in modern society, but the upside is much higher for men. You'd rather be an exceptional man than an exceptional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:10 PM
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Damn I wish I were a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:02 PM
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Women that approach a man are more likely to have certain personality traits, less risk averse, low inhibition, extroverted, more masculine, and normally it will be a girl shooting out of her league. It’s like the girl version of “shooting your shot.” A 9/10 Chad may get approached by these types of 6-7/10 women, but Chad still needs to approach the women on his level. 9/10 women aren’t approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:35 PM
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Uh no. Chad gets approach more by women for sure, but most women will not be approaching men at all. What differentiates Chad from non-Chad is their advances are way more accepted by women. If you are around Chad men, it’s not like they are just constantly getting approached. That is fantasy, it’s just their approaches work much much better on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:26 PM
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if a woman is attracted she’d approach him lol You’re not serious, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:22 PM
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The man won’t really be able to know if she is or is not initially attracted, but he has to try if he wants at any shot at a relationship. You’re basically saying that a man should just resign himself to a life alone because a woman may accept a date if she is not initially attracted. That’s crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:16 PM
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What others options do men have? They have to approach or they die alone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:55 PM
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There are a ton of girls that play the PC game valorant. I hear them on voice comms…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:37 PM
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That actually isn’t implied at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:51 PM
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Well there’s one issue. You can’t just observe heterosexual relationships, you have to also observe early dating stage romantic interaction (where most romantic failure happens). If you actually did that it would be comical to conclude that the bar is in hell for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:44 PM
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The bar is on the floor for men when the woman highly desires them (not necessarily Chad, physical attractiveness can develop over time, this has been studied) and they are in a long term relationship with the person. The whole point is that the phrase “the bar is low for men” is an obvious lie needing multiple caveats to even be close to a functional point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:41 PM
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I agree with that, but the vast majority of romantic failures occurs at the beginning so the vast majority of the time it is the men getting rejected at the beginning. It feel ridiculous that this statement now has to be caveated from “the bar is so low for men” to “the bar is so low for men who I have high levels of desire and attractiveness towards (already a small minority of men) and who I am in an established LTR with.” It’s now a completely different phrase. The first is a lie, the second …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:28 PM
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So you are saying the bar is high for the men in the beginning but lowers the further along the relationships goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:23 PM
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That’s not how it works at all. Even a man she genuinely desires there are still expectations regarding financial and emotional stability, masculine personality traits, needing to escalate/initiate everything, The desire can go away quickly. And suddenly they bar ain’t so low anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:22 PM
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That’s not even how it works though. It’s not like every man she desires has free reign to act however. That’s a disgusting lie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:17 PM
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This isn’t even how it works in the real world. There are couple that form especially through social circles, where the woman is not head over heels into the guy, but she develops it over time and they get together and form a relationship. I see relationships like that where it appears they are genuinely happy. The bar was not in hell for that man. If he genuinely acted like a horrible person he would have not gotten with her. The bar being in hell is for the like top top percentile (more like 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:15 PM
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No that does need to be spelled out because when the amount of guys the women is attracted to is a small minority of men, then it becomes extremely important to understand that there is actually an insanely high bar for the vast majority of men and a low bar for the small minority of men who she is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:07 PM
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So the bar actually isn’t low then. You just admitted it by adding a caveat. Just saying the statement “the bar is so low for men” is a ridiculous lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:04 PM
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When I hear a woman say “the bar is so low for men,” I instantly lose a decent amount of respect for them. That statement is legitimately the most delusional thing possible for someone to say unironically in the context of modern western dating. I legitimately wonder if they’re serious, lying to themselves, lying to us, or living on a different planet or at the bottom of the ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:55 PM
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100k is not hard to make in a high cost of living city. I am under 30 and easily clearing 100k
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:18 PM
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Humans are at the top of the food chain but males are significantly less powerful overall than women, so women but not men are the apex predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:41 PM
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In modern times, human females are earth’s apex predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:34 PM
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So are most women it seems like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:37 AM
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Woman are so harsh in men lol how is that guy a 5.5, a five is an average guy, do you really think the average guy is only a half rating worse than the guy in the picture? Now I’m starting to understand why women swipe on so few guys lol….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:35 AM
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What we really need to know are average number of partners and median number of partners and to see how much outlier men and women are influencing the results. Statistics showing an average must always be taken into context due to how easily it can be skewed by outliers. The best is to know median+average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:53 PM
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I don't understand why it bothers people so much when it's stated that there is more effort required for men. It's not uncommon in mammals to have that in mating. And it's not a statement that there is nothing required for women, just that there is more for men. For some reason, people, especially women, just can't deal with or admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:01 AM
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Thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:50 PM
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You're allowed to make that post. Why wouldn't you be? This guy made the post about men, i'm not sure why you can't make it about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:44 PM
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I demand acknowledgement of all the effort it took me to acknowledge the effort men put into dating But you won't make that post, will you? Because you know that the effort required is a lot less for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:40 PM
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I would for sure. 30 doesn’t really mean anything specifically, it’s just an arbitrary number we have anchored to in a base 10 number system to mean not young anymore. I have seen plenty 30’s woman who seem great and advancements in tech have made it easier to stay looking younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:18 AM
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it's no problem. I'd have those standards if I were a women. I'd take advantage of any favorable circumstances my gender allowed. I'm just saying the fact that you can have that level of standards and still be a sexual being illustrates why the red pill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:38 PM
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lol, i think this comment illustrates why the red pill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:02 PM
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In essence, different men will consider different guys to be chads based on their own flaws and insecurities. The 5'7 guy will think the 6'2'' guy talking to the girl he likes at the bar chad. But then this tall 6'2 guy will think the facially attractive guy who stole his gf is chad. But the face guy will think his charismatic 5'5 boss who does well with women at work chad. Chad is basically a useless term that a man will personally use that basically means he has a trait the guy don't have and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 09:48 PM
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And what if a person's observation and inferences don't agree with trp's core concepts? Is it wrong? Are those person's anecdotes ignored? The problem is that trp ultimately isn't falsifiable, so the trp/tbp debate is really about a person's emotions and experiences. It's a subjective argument that really comes down to a person's experience and how they see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 10:44 PM
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I do feel that I have sexual and romantic potential. I just disagree that fucking a hooker takes it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 06:28 AM
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I just want to fuck someone and get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 06:04 AM
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Why should I stay away from hookers? What do I really have to lose from fucking a hooker assuming the money isn't an issue (and it's not for me)? Virgins and incels are really different so to be honest This isn't really true. They're the same unless the virgin is voluntarily not attempting to engage in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 05:15 AM
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As a 23 year old virgin/incel male, this is making me want to go fuck a hooker a couple of times before even trying for sex. Seems like it'd probably be a better option to get a little experience as most girls are going to be expecting a lot at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 04:05 AM
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You're just wrong. Go to any foreveralone or incel subreddit and you'll find thousands of men who will possible love you. You just have to lower your standards a little for attractiveness. They are too high at the moment. When you talk about good, decent men, you mean good, decent men that are also good looking. You may not be able to get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:55 AM
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are you skinny? Decently attractive in the face? If you're both of those, you should have no trouble finding a man. You're most likely just assuming that the man you date has to be a certain level of attractiveness for you (Chad), and that may be hard to find for you. I agree with you that black women are generally not preferred in western society to white or maybe asian women, but you should be able to find someone if you're at least decently attractive. You may have to lower your standards a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 02:34 AM
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Any of the INxx is the most common incel type. Though I think INTP and INTJ are the most common. Having F might make it a little easier to be non incel. I'm intj and incel as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 08:33 PM
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ehhh, I'd still smash.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/17 05:50 AM
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ehh, I've been reading these comments, and Idk if i am buying trp. It's not all bad, but the af,bb/chad/hypergamy stuff just seems forced, based in confirmation bias and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:12 AM
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Possible, you are also not very good at assessing the physical attractiveness of the men from a female perspective. It's possible. But I have asked my female friends about it and they agree with me for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 03:39 AM
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