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| 30 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child support | Activism/Support | Sharp_Hope6199 | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 09:05 PM |
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| 2 | The Reason Most People Don’t Enjoy Dating Is Women’s Unmanaged Expectations, and Top Men Who Exploit ItSo … you want them to settle for less than their standards. Got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/24 09:30 AM |
| 3 | So evidently we are a redpill/incell sub nowI got permabanned for trying to talk to the mod about it. They insisted I delete every post I have ever made in this sub, or else. I asked them to read my posts here so they could make a judgement about what I’ve actually said, because then they’d know I’m regularly downvoted over here. They want an echo chamber with obedient robots. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/24 12:10 AM |
| 3 | So evidently we are a redpill/incell sub nowNope, they banned me too for participating in this thread. Even though I disagree with most of the things here. I think they don’t want anyone with an objective opinion. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/24 12:05 AM |
| 3 | Why do cheaters beg to keep the relationship?Why do they beg to keep it? I think it’s because relationships are rarely all bad. Often there are parts that are bad- like communication, and intimacy on some level. And another thing I think happens is that when someone is caught out, they are swept up in the moment of knowing they hurt someone, and want to emotionally appeal to repair the harm. And sometimes it’s because they don’t want to be the one who ended it. Some people are cowards that way, and can’t simply end a relationship that does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?I don’t agree that commitment requires or implies sexual exclusivity. I don’t agree that it requires emotional exclusivity either. I can see how such a sacrifice is a form of demonstrating commitment though, and I can understand the utility in that socially as well, but it isn’t the only available demonstration. I think it’s a very western and/or religious perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?It seems like research and evidence would point to suggest that the vast majority of people think it should be that way, but find out that they don’t actually behave that way. I agree with you that relationships and marriage are about commitment to one another. I also believe that what the commitment is to one another is unique to each relationship. I believe a lot of marriages end up on the chopping block because of a disparity in understanding each other’s (and one’s own) expectations of commi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 06:42 PM |
| 0 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?Hmmm, never had a quickie, have you? I think there’s a certain level of intimacy and connection that’s required for any relationship to be considered a relationship. I don’t think it all comes from sex, and people can have sex for many different reasons. It’s also possible to have feelings for multiple people. What we each decide is right for us is perfectly fine for consenting adults. It doesn’t have to be all serious and high pressure. It can also be just light and fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 01:13 AM |
| 4 | I hate the fact that in professional setups I can't be open about my concerns with boys and men.And that is what makes the tactic effective. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/24 02:35 PM |
| -4 | Femcel says that men are deprived of love because they are able to live without getting complements regularlyYou’re free to go as you please, I am not forcing you to stay. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/24 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?Also, with the rate of divorce and infidelity, it would suggest to me that traditional monogamy isn’t most people’s thing either, and leaves a lot of people rather insecure or hurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?That’s okay, I am not saying it should be. The person said they didn’t understand, so I tried to explain it. No harm done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 08:49 AM |
| -9 | Femcel says that men are deprived of love because they are able to live without getting complements regularlyYou’re coming to have your feelings validated? I didn’t talk about feelings at all. I thought you were here to discuss Men’s Rights. My mistake. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/24 02:38 AM |
| 6 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?You are welcome to make the relationship you want. We are both mature enough to know the difference between an oxytocin high and a cultivated relationship. And we don’t at all live in fear of being left alone. Our relationship is always a choice to make together. We are always free to leave if it’s no longer what we want, or what we believe is best for ourselves and each other. That’s what we want in a relationship, isn’t it? Someone who wants to be with us? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 02:26 AM |
| -6 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?Then he goes and lives with her if that’s what he thinks is best for his life? I suppose that one of the things that happens in our relationship is that we are both dedicated to making sure our life with each other is the best possible life we can make together rather than simply coercing one another to stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:59 AM |
| -4 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?Oh, I’m sure that works for you. My husband and I are building a life together regardless of who we fuck. That makes it different for us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:38 AM |
| -14 | Men of reddit would you have a problem if your girlfriend was a Cuckquean?It’s an opportunity to see your partner enjoy their life. One can still have a fully dedicated and loving relationship that doesn’t revolve around sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:30 AM |
| -9 | Femcel says that men are deprived of love because they are able to live without getting complements regularlyI am a woman, have women friends, and have also dated them. I can say that yes, some women do hate men and want to harm them, as there are men who hate women and want to harm them. Some, though relatively few, of both women and men project their fears onto the opposite sex and want to harm them. It’s a human condition to project out fears onto other groups so we can control and defeat them. It is so much a human condition that some people act this out without even realizing it. We see it in many… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/24 01:22 AM |
| -9 | Femcel says that men are deprived of love because they are able to live without getting complements regularlyA few things… Do you think you have stumbled across something new? I mean, that there are extremists who say crazy things to get attention? Do you think that calling men incels is bad and harmful? Why do you think men, or people rather, disregard these tactics? A lot of people disregard these tactics. Why do you think that is? How does posting something like this make things better? Do you like and respect femcel tactics and their outcome? Do you aspire to be like these femcels enough to use the… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/24 12:22 AM |
| 8 | Femcel says that men are deprived of love because they are able to live without getting complements regularlyWhy do you care what she has to say? Do you respect it? Do you look up to it? Why do you give it the time of day? | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportIt’s hard to say really. I don’t think a spreadsheet can calculate child impact. I also recognize that there are a lot of cases, and the law needs to try to be “fair” across the aggregate of circumstances. Obviously it ends up not being fair to some, but I can’t think of a better baseline way to make a calculation and apply it evenly across so many cases either. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportI have been through two divorces including custody in two different states. Not the best data set, but I was personally invested, and it’s what I got to work with. The way child support was calculated was by taking the combined income of both parents, the total of childcare expenses, and dividing it in proportion according to timeshare calculated by days of parenting time. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportI think this is a great idea. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)I agree, it’s a terrible argument. But they are allowed to make it, as it does seem to have some legal implication that needs further consideration. I wish the guys here would start a crowd-fund to get that man a kick-ass lawyer to set a precedent and get that changed. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)I think any move in the right direction is worth celebrating, no matter how small. That’s one way they get bigger. The judge stood up to the prosecutor. Can you state the prosecutor’s argument clearly? Why does she think she has a case? You, and the rest of society, need to understand these things before they can get better, whether or not you agree with them. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportOh, that is fantastic! Especially if used in conjunction with spending accountability! Way to go on proposing something that would be a great benefit for the child! | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 01:41 PM |
| 2 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportThe problem I have with that is it allows for people to stay underemployed. If you had your child with you, you still have to support them even if you’re below the poverty line. Besides, if you’re below the poverty line and still have to make child support payments, then the other parent probably isn’t well enough off to compensate. I point this out because of the way child support can be calculated. If the disparity is great enough between the parents, the parent with primary residency can stil… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportI agree with the arrested part. I don’t think being arrested is going to help anyone pay anything. As for wages being seized- that might be a little trickier because of unreported income. If wages cannot be garnished, and there is no consequence, some men might not voluntarily pay. I absolutely don’t believe anyone should support a child that isn’t theirs, but they should absolutely be held accountable for children that are theirs. It’s helpful to also think about the shoe being on the other foo… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)It seems to me that the function of the adversarial justice system we have is to decide which party has the legitimate interest. The sticky wicket here is that the state is making the case that there was a point in time when the order for him to pay was considered just. He didn’t pay according to the “just” order, which would have been considered bad to do on his part at the time. If he had followed the law and paid according to the order, her client would have received the money. He did not pay… | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 09:12 AM |
| 3 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportThat would be a tough sell because what a child costs to raise is variable and considered a function of the total income, and it might not be viewed as in the child’s best interest. What would be the justification for that such that any reasonable person would say, “Oh, that’s obviously a more fair way to do it?” Why would that be better for your child, hypothetically? As far as accounting for the money- that’s a good one- to make sure the money is accounted for as going to actually support the … | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 08:57 AM |
| 4 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Probably pre-birth would be easier. There are genetic tests that can be performed very early on, detecting the baby’s DNA in the mother’s blood as early as 6 weeks. | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportOooh, I didn’t know there was a federal level! Thanks! | /r/MensRights | 09/09/24 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Ad hominem, yet I’m dumb. Okay. The judge was the one presiding and making the decisions, the prosecutor represented the state. Glad we got that out of the way. Yes, you were talking about the prosecutor, and I was talking about the judge and how the case turned out. Are you tracking now? Kinda strange that you would opt to state the obvious and then call me dumb. 🤷♀️ | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Petitioning to change state laws regarding child supportI want input before I start, and it would be great to pool resources. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)She said she didn’t have the authority to make the decision. I don’t know what you want from people, but it sounds like more than they are capable of. No wonder you are so negative and constantly disappointed. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 10:27 PM |
| -4 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Not at all being obtuse. She made a call that she thought was best to help him. She didn’t agree with the prosecutor and made that clear. She did what she thought was best. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)If you can’t see how this is a win, I am concerned that you only want to view the negative. The judge doesn’t have the authority to make it right, so she is referring it to a court that can. She had the authority to grant the prosecutor’s proposal, and expressly disagreed with it and did not enforce it. Like, what do you expect her to do? Rule out of jurisdiction? That would get overturned in a heartbeat, and he would have an even bigger battle. I agree it shouldn’t have to be a battle, but we d… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)That’s where I think the judge had an issue. I don’t think she felt empowered to make that ruling in accordance with current law. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 09:06 PM |
| -18 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)The state has an interest in pursuing it, because of the way the law works. IIRC, state prosecutors don’t get to pick their cases, and are obligated to make the best case they can according to the evidence in line with current state law. If a law is stupid or unjust, it is up to the citizens to petition the state government to change it. Instead of armchair quarterbacking here, why don’t we petition the state governments to change the law? | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 08:54 PM |
| -29 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Victims of fraud generally have to bring a case to have it restored. I would love to see this guy make one. Edit to add: he may be able to claim attorney fees as well. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)The argument the prosecution is trying to make is that at the time, he was considered rightfully adjudged to owe that money. If he would have paid according to the court order, her client would have received that money before it was discovered he was not the father. She is trying to say he is still on the hook because he didn’t follow the court order and was in arrears for an order that was just at the time. Therefore, her client didn’t get the money awarded to her because he skirted the court o… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 05:46 PM |
| -58 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Did you watch it? | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 04:43 PM |
| -11 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Why? Did you watch it? It was great! A victory for men! | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 04:43 PM |
| 16 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)There’s nothing unconstitutional going on here. He thought he was the father, he signed an acknowledgment that he was, and had a standing order on the arrears. He got a paternity test done, and is not the father. The state is trying to make the case that he is still liable for the arrears because he didn’t contest them, even though no further child support will be paid after the date paternity was established. It’s a stupid argument, but they are allowed to make it and have it shut down by the j… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 04:43 PM |
| 7 | Prosecutor wants a man who is NOT the biological father to still pay child support ($16,000 in arrears)Woohoo! Judge shut that down and gave him counsel!! Way to go to win for men!! | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Women getting fired for reporting sexual harassment at work?I’m sorry if that happened to you. It sucks both ways when people are victimized by assholes. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 12:01 PM |
| 6 | Women getting fired for reporting sexual harassment at work?My second job, as a waitress when I was 16… The head waiter cornered me in the stock room and tried to kiss me and pin me against the wall. When I went to management with this, I was listened to… And then never put on the schedule again. It was his uncle’s restaurant. Good luck going anywhere with that. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/24 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Am I the only one that thinks the Pink Tax is dumb.Why not call it a “blue discount?” | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 12:45 PM |
| 0 | Irrelevant posts from womenOn that note- should this sub become a suppressive environment too? Should we go ahead and join their ranks and become the agents of toxic feminist cancel culture and censorship as well? How will that be helpful? | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 12:12 PM |
| -2 | Level of affectionShe got hurt. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 12:03 PM |
| -2 | Level of affectionYou’re right, I was mistaken. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 12:03 PM |
| -1 | Irrelevant posts from womenA lot of male posters here bring in some of the worst things they can find out in the wild. Should they be censored too? Let them come and be met with reason. Let men show how amazing they are with being able to rise above these things and show leadership, logic, and respect. Let’s not devolve into methods of toxic femininity such as extreme censorship and social ostracism or cancel culture. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Irrelevant posts from womenThere are a lot of people here that read the interaction and don’t engage. It’s better to learn and teach how to properly engage with things one disagrees with, because that’s how life is. We can’t just remove everything we disagree with from our lives. People on this thread are intelligent. They can look at what is going on and see for themselves the merit of a post or an argument. One of the hallmarks of extremism is censorship. It’s one of the biggest problems with feminism today. It’s not so… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 11:51 AM |
| -1 | Level of affectionHe sounds like he got hurt. Edit to add: “she”, not “he.” Either way, that’s their own personal experience. It doesn’t sound like the kind of thing that would do anyone any good to listen to. Usually when people make generalizations like this, they are speaking from personal pain rather than objective truth. It would be a shame to discredit the love of one’s mother for something one woman said one time. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/24 11:33 AM |
| 2 | Where can I Find Some Official Statistics About How Kids End Up being mostly Criminals at Single Parent Homes?Good article! | /r/MensRights | 03/09/24 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do people through the word "incel" around so much these days?The argument is based on reality not reflecting what they believe about themselves. That is the basis of a claim of injustice. If society treated people how they believed they deserved, they would think it’s just. Therefore as long as men view themselves as disposable, there is no argument they can make towards people who treat them as such. I don’t know what feminists believe. I am not one and don’t study them. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/24 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Why do people through the word "incel" around so much these days?First of all, I want to say that I don’t think that’s true. But for argument‘s sake, one is quantifiable and measurable, and the other is a qualitative belief. If a feminist was saying that women are worth less than men, I would take issue with that too, because it would inform how they believe they deserve to be treated. If we quantify in what ways men are treated as more disposable- for example, quantifiably, then we can examine it and change factors to lead to different measurable outcomes. B… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/24 02:43 PM |
| 0 | Why do people through the word "incel" around so much these days?Maybe we should strive to be a bit less misandrist, and if not able to express that men are valuable, at least stop propagating the idea that they’re disposable? It’s baffling to me to see how much misandry is rooted in some people, to the point where a woman in a Men’s Rights forum is downvoted for pointing out that the idea of men’s disposability is misandrist, and men promoting such an idea are upvoted. This seems to me to be one of the first and most basic things to work on. How can people s… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/24 02:11 PM |
| 0 | Why do people through the word "incel" around so much these days?And you don’t see how continuing to propagate the idea that men are disposable is creating that systemic misandrist? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/24 02:05 PM |
| 0 | Why do people through the word "incel" around so much these days?It’s a bit misandrist to say that men are disposable, isn’t it? | /r/MensRights | 02/09/24 12:24 PM |
| 1 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!I’d agree- you would have to be willing to lose the relationship. That’s the nature of vulnerability. My point is that if that’s the kind of person she is, it’s not really a loss. Don’t start with your deepest vulnerabilities, obviously! And you don’t have to share every secret you have. You’re entitled to your own privacy. But if a woman can’t stand to see you cry about anything, or ask for advice or help when you don’t know the answer, it’s going to be a rough relationship if you can’t rely on… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 08:45 PM |
| 4 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!I would say that’s a woman right there that you don’t want to be with. My uncle once asked me, “If you lend someone $100 and never see them again, was it worth it?” I think that applies here as well. If trusting your partner with your weaknesses scares them off, is that really someone you want to build a relationship with? I sincerely believe that trying to pretend you’re invincible and don’t have vulnerabilities or insecurities is the worst thing to do. It’s going to eventually happen, because … | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that when a man doesn't want to be with a girl that has a high body count he is "insecure", but when a woman doesn't like a man because he's short, it's her "preference"Both are preferences, which can come from insecurity, or not. There is no hard and fast rule. For example, a woman who has a height preference may have this because she is insecure about her own height, or insecure about how to deal with what the man might feel about it, or the comments they might receive. A man might have this preference because he is insecure that she’d be faithful, or that he would be able to live up to her standards. And then, a woman might have that preference because she l… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that when a man doesn't want to be with a girl that has a high body count he is "insecure", but when a woman doesn't like a man because he's short, it's her "preference"Is that what you believe? | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 07:50 PM |
| 2 | R/womenI hear you. Sorry you got banned- some people just can’t listen to anything that doesn’t confirm their own bias. On this sub, you can definitely take in the downvotes at times, and hear a variety of opinions, but to the credit of the mods, they will allow other, even unpopular perspectives. That gives me some hope. 😊 | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 06:24 PM |
| 1 | R/womenI didn’t mean to accuse you of bashing. I’m truly sorry if it came across that way and will try in the future to be more careful with my words. It’s not too surprising to find another subreddit where people are fueling their own egos in an echo chamber around hate. I’m actually glad you brought it up because I’ll go over there and work towards balancing and calming them towards rationality until they ban me. I’ve already been banned from the 2x and ask feminists subs. 😂 | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 06:10 PM |
| 2 | R/womenNo problem. It’s easy to get swept up in that stuff on either side, and we should be doing everything we can to stand against bigotry no matter where it comes from. What I always tell my boys is that what comes out of another person’s mouth, especially in a disrespectful way, is about them not you. If someone wants to call another person every name in the book, that means they’re exactly the type of person you shouldn’t be listening to for feedback. It’ll eat you from the inside, which doesn’t d… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 06:06 PM |
| -2 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!Decriminalizing the things women do by pointing out that people who treat others badly because they show vulnerability is terrible regardless of gender? 😂 okay. Please do elucidate me on my hypocrisy here. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:58 PM |
| 7 | R/womenDon’t be like them. There are bigots everywhere, and some of them congregate to bash on their victim of choice. Extremist views and groups don’t represent the whole of a particular community. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:15 PM |
| -8 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!Looked like you needed some. Shame you won’t say that to OP here, and would rather jump on the one-sided bandwagon of bigotry. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:10 PM |
| 2 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!Have you done this with “most” women? Doubtful. Even if most of the women you’ve dated are like this, you might want to consider the inherent bias in the sampling process and choose a different type of woman. It might affect your results. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:07 PM |
| 1 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!And then promptly throw that out the window because relationships are qualitative, not quantitative. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!Yes. It’s deeply misandrist to go about teaching men how to be bigoted. I wish that would stop post-haste. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:04 PM |
| -1 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!One should be careful who they are vulnerable with regardless of gender. People can be monsters. Trying to paint it as though men shouldn’t be vulnerable in front of women undermines healthy relationships by failing to distinguish the root issue. If you can’t be vulnerable in front of someone because they treat you negatively for it, that’s not a person you’re going to be able to develop a solid relationship with, regardless of what gender they are. It would be better to teach men and women to c… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:03 PM |
| -6 | An advice for men in relationships: Do not be vulnerable in-front of females! It’s a trap!One should be careful who they are vulnerable with regardless of gender. People can be monsters. Trying to paint it as though men shouldn’t be vulnerable in front of women undermines healthy relationships by failing to distinguish the root issue. If you can’t be vulnerable in front of someone because they treat you negatively for it, that’s not a person you’re going to be able to develop a solid relationship with, regardless of what gender they are. It would be better to teach men and women to c… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/24 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?Having hair is a biological thing. How people wear their hair is an external and cultural thing. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?Without a thorough analysis, I couldn’t tell you what has changed while I was in the service. Low quarters and slacks were acceptable for class a’s before I joined. Neck ties were different between sexes, mess dress standards were and still are, but even though the clothing is similar, men’s and women’s uniforms are definitely still sexed (button placement, buckling standards, for example). Women are not permitted to wear a man’s uniform, men are not permitted to wear a woman’s either. Even the … | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?My point is that there are different cultural standards for men and women’s appearances forcing one to comply with the other doesn’t seem appropriate. Long hair has been culturally appropriate for women for a long time. If women should be forced to have their hair cut to conform to appearance standards for men, why shouldn’t men be forced to wear skirts and her to conform to the appearance standards for women? | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?Takes advice to read a book and checks current Air Force regs Nope, women still required to wear skirt and pumps for mess. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?Read a book? Oh? Any book? 😂 I disagree- I think it is quite discriminatory to be forced to wear skirts and heels when men can wear trousers and loafers. When I was in the Air Force, the standards had changed enough that there were slacks women could wear, but were still required to wear pumps and hose. If it is to be fair, that women have their hair buzzed, then men should wear the heels and hosiery too. Why should women be forced into the cultural standards for men, without men being forced in… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination?Should we make men wear dress skirts, pantyhose and heels then? Why not? If standard like this should be equal, only seems fair, no? | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Who do you consider a good male role model?Jocko Willink. Very solid, mature, and disciplined. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/24 12:32 AM |
| 2 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?I think I understand, and I appreciate your approach. I don’t see anything your saying as rude, just an earnest conversation in good-faith, thank you for that. 😊 What if, then, men organized and framed it as a women’s issue too? Just spit-balling. And I think it will take time, even if you’re 50. It will always be meaningful for future generations. Do you think if women approach it, it would be seen by men as women passing judgement on them for not being sufficient? I feel like that would be a r… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 09:46 PM |
| 2 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?Forgive me, I’m American and am not well-versed in history of the UK. Whether or not suffragettes were good people I feel is beside the point. My point is that in both cases I mentioned, it took organization and movement. Simply waiting around for someone to make a change for you seems strange and ineffective. I don’t think violence is necessary; I think America has a lot of examples of organized change. I just wonder why men are not following patterns of historically effective change, or pionee… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 09:31 PM |
| 1 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?Oh yes I have. 😅 | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 09:24 PM |
| 4 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?In my experience as a woman, speaking up individually doesn’t really work either. I don’t think that a gender thing- I just think it’s a momentum thing. Are you meaning to say that you’re waiting on women to speak up for men then? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 09:24 PM |
| 2 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?Ergo, since I am a woman, you guys here will listen to me? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 10:41 AM |
| 0 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?That’s the plan? Just wait around until someone starts to listen? Have you read history? Spoiler alert: people don’t generally “wake up” one day and start listening to the disenfranchised and those without a voice. Women would not have ever gotten the right to vote that way. Slavery would never have ended that way. Take it from a woman - don’t spend your life like a damsel in distress waiting for some knight in shining armor to come and rescue you. Be the change you want to see, find your voice,… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 08:36 AM |
| 14 | What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?It is hard to get anything big done when you’re actually the underdog fighting for basic rights. What do you think worked historically, or that the MRM could improve on? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/24 12:04 AM |
| 0 | Lack of empathy for menIt’s pretty normal for people to not care much about others as the personal relationship with them gets further away all the way out to a perfect stranger. People care much more for those they know than those they don’t, on the whole. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/24 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Lack of empathy for menSure, there are people who are not. When you stay away from those people, and choose to only allow beautiful, compassionate, and caring people in your life, you’ll see what I mean. If you go around looking for the worst in society, you’ll be sure to find it. The same is true for the best. If the worst is all you see, then maybe reflect on what it is you’re looking for? | /r/MensRights | 27/08/24 11:12 AM |
| 9 | Instagram and TikTok Femcels Will Ruin HumanityDo this, and remember that these are not the types of people that you should respect enough to allow their opinions to influence who you are. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/24 02:12 AM |
| -2 | Lack of empathy for menThe reality is that not all women care about men’s feelings. Looks like you found one. There are negative slogans like this on both sides- “you throw like a girl,” “get back in the kit and make me a sammich.” Try to realize and remember that what people say is more about who they are than who they’re talking about. When you come across people like this, it’s good to let them say what they think so you know who to avoid in the future. The world is full of beautiful, compassionate, caring men and … | /r/MensRights | 27/08/24 02:10 AM |
| 1 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorWatch out for the barrage downvotes, what with all that spouting logic and reason around here! 😄 | /r/MensRights | 24/08/24 11:12 AM |
| 5 | Italian newspapers: "women still date like prehistorical animals, even though they are more resourceful now. Men will become more violent because they struggle to adapt to successful women with obsolete dating norms". Bashing men is more important than saving a few women's livesYes, that’s feminism, an ideology, not females, the biological entities. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 11:13 PM |
| -14 | Italian newspapers: "women still date like prehistorical animals, even though they are more resourceful now. Men will become more violent because they struggle to adapt to successful women with obsolete dating norms". Bashing men is more important than saving a few women's livesIt’s as ficticious as the idea of a female “hive mind.” | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 02:14 PM |
| 0 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorRapists are people and have inherent worth as such. That’s the basis of our justice system, our constitution, and a truly ennobling idea. Let’s pretend for a moment that we decide, as a society to kill rapists. How would this make the situation better for men? Aaaaaand go. Gosh, some of the ideas you guys have towards people out there makes it easy to see how the holocaust and gulag could have happened. You guys with that level of wanton brutality towards others are scary. If we adopted your sug… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 09:42 AM |
| 2 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorThat’s just tragic from all directions. My heart goes out to them. I know she was a minor too, but I hope she got the full force of the justice system on that in the same way as if roles were reversed. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 01:03 AM |
| -2 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the Perpetrator😂 no I don’t. Get over yourself. I simply answered a question. If someone asks a question, I expect they might not know the answer and wanted to find out. Don’t you think the same? I can’t speak for all states, because I haven’t researched their laws, but in the states I am familiar with child support is calculated as a function of combined income of both parents. If one parent doesn’t work, an income based on their earning potential is imputed. Then the cost of care for the child is divided so … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 01:00 AM |
| 1 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorThat’s heartbreaking and horrible on so many levels. I know it’s a lot for a family to work through, especially for that young boy, but I do hope there is some recourse for the family to pursue custody if they choose. She shouldn’t have been able to unilaterally give the child up for adoption, especially since they knew who the father was. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 12:29 AM |
| 2 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorThat’s projected on me a lot. It’s hard for some men, especially those who believe in some fiction of a “female hive mind,” to wrap their heads around a woman having a non-feminist perspective. So that’s how it appears to be coped with. I’m not at peace at all with it. Stating how or why something works the way it does is an informative and unbiased thing to do. It doesn’t at all mean I am at peace with inequality in our justice system. What makes you think I hate men and boys? Because I underst… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorI agree. He wouldn’t have had the option for abortion, but he should have at least had the opportunity for full custody and to receive support or else sign away rights altogether. If that isn’t the way it works, that should definitely change. As a woman who believes in abortion under circumstances of rape, I would die on that hill. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 12:14 AM |
| -8 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorNo, I am saying that child support is meant to support a child. It’s right there in the name, and not something I made up. Alimony is spousal support, and the closest we get to supporting a previous partner. It’s true that some women also benefit from child support, but legally it’s to support the child. I am not justifying a rapist being paid by her victim. I even said I think it’s wild that someone convicted of a sex crime with a minor would get custody over the father or father’s family. Plea… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/24 12:11 AM |
| -6 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorCrazy I’m being downvoted for posting why it is the way it is. It isn’t like I made it that way! 😅 The only thing that comes to mind is that the mother who is found guilty of raping a minor should not have custody, and should, instead, be the one providing child support. It blows my mind that someone who was found guilty of sexual assault of a minor would get custody at all. Edit to answer your question about how we justify something like this: Sometimes, in the course of law, there are no truly… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/24 09:47 PM |
| -17 | The Male gender, even as a victim, is sentenced to pay Female Alimony to the PerpetratorThat’s because support is for the child, not the woman. It’s hard to justify the suffering of children even if they come into this world through criminal acts of their parents. It would be better if the father or father’s family in such cases receive custody, and the mother is penalized. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/24 07:12 PM |
| 9 | Gotta love that interacting on much of Reddit is restricted due to an occasional comment on this subredditIt’s crazy that they don’t want anyone to participate in conversation on both sides of the issues. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/24 12:57 AM |
| 0 | Just a question #notallmenYou guys need to meet different women! 😄 | /r/MensRights | 19/08/24 01:12 PM |
| 23 | Misogyny to be treated as terrorism“This isn’t about criminalising people who are showing signs of an ideology, it is about preventing that ideology,” By criminalizing it. I don’t like harmful ideologies either, but this is a dangerous precedent. “How harmful” is not clearly defined, and how do we monitor and prevent scope-creep? Right now, we have a fundamental right to freedom of belief and expression, which draws a line at action- specific actions. Moving that line to beliefs or expression is a dangerous precedent. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/24 12:54 PM |
| 29 | Misogyny is terrorism, so says the misandrists.“This isn’t about criminalising people who are showing signs of an ideology, it is about preventing that ideology,” By criminalizing it. I don’t like harmful ideologies either, but this is a dangerous precedent. “How harmful” is not clearly defined, and how do we monitor and prevent scope-creep? Right now, we have a fundamental right to freedom of belief and expression, which draws a line at action- specific actions. Moving that line to beliefs or expression is a dangerous precedent. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/24 12:54 PM |
| -14 | Sincerity in modern dating is dying. Men should live for themselves.There is no singular, over-arching, rule to how to approach dating. Some, both men and women, date multiple people at once while some, both men and women, date only one at a time. Some men and women continue to date after they are married. Likewise, some view the other approach as bad, and theirs as good. We are all different in our preferences, but the same in that we get to choose our own approach. Any variation of approach can be done either sincerely or dishonestly. It sounds like you have a… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/24 12:46 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Yep, it’s already hard enough without having automatic doubt cast on our achievements. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/24 11:19 PM |
| 2 | How many of you feel shameful and somehow bad just for being a man?I would not say it’s your only purpose, as a man, to withstand any kind of threat. I would say it’s one of your unique qualities and greatest strengths, that you could apply to achieve whatever you would set your heart to. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 2 | How many of you feel shameful and somehow bad just for being a man?Society has definitely changed. Social contracts are being redefined. Women may not need men in the same way as before, but men, as the other most important half of society are definitely needed by everyone. Especially by children, by the future. I think women are struggling with this too. The disconnection from families and atomization of the individual has caused some significant upheaval and there’s no past or traditional precedent for how to navigate it. On the bright side, it is a grand opp… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 08:02 PM |
| 2 | How many of you feel shameful and somehow bad just for being a man?What an excellent question. I am so glad to see so many positive responses from men here, even though some have struggled with this. It’s good that so many have learned not to let someone else’s bad experience define who you are and can become! | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 07:56 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Yeah…. Nothing to undermine one’s hard-earned experience and credibility like being considered the token “diversity hire.” It’s like, come on, you are not doing anybody any favors by forced inclusion quota policy. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 07:08 PM |
| 2 | I just got harassed because I'm an Indian man.I’m sorry you had to deal with that. I hope you reported it. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 02:49 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I find it odd that you would pick some of most seemingly difficult occupations to change. What are you hoping for? Are you wanting me to say, “I guess you’re right, men are f**d?” I won’t do that. I’m not interested in the “impossible” at the moment. I’m interested in the small things that are possible that can be done. Let’s go after the low-hanging fruit first, then we can start to tackle the harder things. Let’s come up with 100 things we can do, that we would do, that can make some increment… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 01:55 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?We have technology that can be applied for safer ways of doing things now. Some business do not choose this over humans because of cost effectiveness. Even if they aren’t as developed as they could be, they can be developed further. It isn’t a 100% overnight solution, but it can help. If a man thinks a job is too dangerous, he shouldn’t do it. He can choose not to. As more men become unwilling to sacrifice themselves and instead insist on better options, the landscape will shift to meet the dema… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?That’s because your premise is incorrect. I didn’t say “wait for robots.” Therefore I had to go back and clarify the point I was trying to make. It wouldn’t make any sense to move forward responding to things from an incorrect frame. And you didn’t quote anything I said. You offered three scenarios. People already don’t do jobs they think are too dangerous for them to do, or at least aren’t willing to risk their own lives for. We are already adjusted to this. We will also adjust to other ways to… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Had a friend who owns a nice home but gets verbaly abused like a beaten dog by his "women." And he was also cheated on.He won’t know for sure until he consults a lawyer. Laws vary by state. He might need to decide what he values more- having this house or his peace of mind. Personally, I would be willing to give up whatever material thing because I can always rebuild. I am not sure I’d be able to get my sanity back if I lived constantly under such abuse. Maybe ask him what he might think he’d regret most another 10-15 years down the road? Potentially losing a house or staying in a terrible relationship? Why is i… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 11:39 AM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I’m saying these are voluntary things. There are some people with personality types that will choose to do these things. They are typically men, for whatever reason. Men are not required to do these things because they are men though. Plenty of men do not choose to do these things as well. That’s okay too. I think it’s a stretch to hold women at large responsible for the fact that some men would rather put themselves at risk than let a woman do so. Ergo, when discussing a “death gap” as it relat… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 11:29 AM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Yes, and we should continue to work on making these things safer. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 02:14 AM |
| 4 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?You miss my point. It’s voluntary is all I am saying. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/24 12:20 AM |
| 0 | I think I turned my mom into an MRAI think women do care about men than men care about men. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 07:22 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?But it wouldn’t be an increase if the same amount of women died from one year to the next. To suggest it would be is dishonest. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 05:58 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?In the scientific and statistical sense, that just isn’t how it works. 😉 It is not an increase for the women. It is a change in proportion, not an increase. These are different things. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 05:34 PM |
| -1 | I think I turned my mom into an MRAThe gender empathy gap is the difference between levels of empathy in men and women. (Women have much higher levels of empathy than men, which is out of alignment with your argument). It isn’t how you’re using it here- how women feel towards men vs. how men feel towards women. That’s something different. The Psychology Today article is a guest opinion piece in a pop-psychology periodical, it isn’t evidence of anything. I’ll see if I can find the Reddit thing you are pointing to and get back to y… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 05:24 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?The man who got fired so a quota of women could be reached? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 04:29 PM |
| 0 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?What did he do about it? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 04:19 PM |
| -2 | I think I turned my mom into an MRAHow can you be sure? What evidence exists that there is such a thing? Edit: took out as. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 04:05 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?If you gave a shit, then at least one person would. The person who matters the most. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:37 PM |
| 25 | I've had it: Misandry kills way, way, way more than misogyny, stupid!That is unbelievably misandrist. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:36 PM |
| 3 | I think I turned my mom into an MRAThat’s pretty true about all people. Those we know personally are easier to relate to than the ambiguous and amorphous “general public.” | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:34 PM |
| 0 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I completely think conditions should be made safer. I think it’s silly to blame feminists for the fact that men choose to do dangerous jobs like this in the modern world. They seem more likely to risk their lives for a paycheck where women will not. That’s a value judgement they made with their own self-directed free will. I have been talking specifically about working on oil rigs here, which does not apply to underage workers. Economic circumstances in countries where people do not have such fr… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:28 PM |
| 0 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Sure, I understand that. My point is that men do not have to do it. It’s voluntary. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:15 PM |
| 3 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Oh wow, there’s a name for men who decided to be self-directed? Cool! | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:12 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?They should stop doing that. We’ll adjust. If it can’t be done safely, no need to do it unless you really just want to. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:10 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I disagree. Believing yourself to be disposable and you’ll go right along with other people’s narratives that you are disposable, and then be treated that way. If you believe you are not disposable, when someone tries to treat you as such, you’re going to say “Hol’up! Nope.” A lot more often. You won’t tolerate other people treating you as disposable. Besides, how on earth are you supposed to change anyone else’s idea about who you are, if you let what they believe about you govern what you beli… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:09 PM |
| 0 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?yet | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:03 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Why do men though? Can’t they believe in their own self worth? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:02 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Men need to seriously stop considering themselves to be disposable. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 03:00 PM |
| -10 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I disagree. Nobody has to do it. We are not enslaved. We can choose our work. Just because paying a man to do it is cheaper than developing a robot to do it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. If men would not do it for cheaper than making a robot to do it, we would start to see more robots do it. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:59 PM |
| -2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?More robots! 😅 | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:56 PM |
| 0 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Yeah, that a problem with statistics. It is not a 40% increase. It is a 0% increase in women’s deaths with an 89% reduction in men’s deaths. When we are talking about increase/decrease, we compare each category to its own for the prior year. When we are talking about proportionality, we are comparing each category to each other for the same time frame. We can talk about the change in proportionality over time as well, and that change is related to the change in each category. But it is not corre… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:56 PM |
| -11 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Great example. Why not robots? Are men voluntarily choosing to do this work and risk their lives? Why don’t they choose not to do this work? That would also close the gap. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:48 PM |
| 13 | False accusations: a discussion that hurtsMen/women aside, the idea that innocents can or must be sacrificed to make “justice” for others who have been assaulted is sickening. Be careful with that “friend.” That is a very disturbing and possibly sociopathic ideology to have. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:44 PM |
| -1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?What evidence is there of what who is doing that directly harms men, and in what ways? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:38 PM |
| -2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Doesn’t a decrease in men’s deaths achieve the same goal of closing the gap- but with less “wishing for the deaths of others?” Maybe I am missing something in what you’re saying…. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:36 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?I’m just myself and don’t identify with any particular ideology. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:34 PM |
| 1 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?This hits on something I have been meaning to bring up- so much resentment seems to be built around thinking another person’s desires are your own personal requirements. They are not. No wonder those who believe this are bitter and feel out of control. Don’t give your power over to people who are going to stomp and pout if they don’t get their way. It isn’t your job to make them happy. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:33 PM |
| 3 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Nah, they aren’t required. Don’t take crazy people that seriously. Anyone can make up anything they want, nobody is required to believe anything or play along with anyone. You can laugh at people. You will not spontaneously combust. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:30 PM |
| -11 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Why not just see a decrease in men’s deaths? | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:26 PM |
| 2 | What’s your response to the “wage gap”?Where is it? Specifically where? Which companies? If you have actual evidence of a company doing this, you need to bring it to their attention so they can change it. Loudly if you have to. Specifically address companies where this is happening, because it isn’t acceptable. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 02:25 PM |
| 3 | I think I turned my mom into an MRAI agree. I think you’ll find a lot more women care about men than social media would make it seem- Or at least you’ll find out if you need to make friends with better women. 😄 | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 11:53 AM |
| -4 | Americans see men as the financial providers, even as women’s contributions growHow can you tell the difference between an “internalized societal expectation” and what people want? | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 05:06 PM |
| -2 | Americans see men as the financial providers, even as women’s contributions growMen want men to be the major financial contributor more than women do. Did you click the link and look at the study? | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Americans see men as the financial providers, even as women’s contributions growReading the comments here, I see something that’s being overlooked: Men believe this too, as much as or more than women. And I think that’s worth saying because as much fun as some people like to have blaming women for their own problems, keep in mind that men’s own self perceptions can be as insidious. In fact, only 25% of men would say that it’s important for women to contribute to be a good partner where 39% of women said so. It looks like more women hold themselves to a higher standard of co… | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 04:18 PM |
| 4 | Responses to married men are more happier.Why do you suppose people try to do this? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/24 09:28 AM |
| 3 | Responses to married men are more happier.Ask Rodney Dangerfield? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/24 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Do women lose more from divorces than men?I met him in college when I was 16. We got married when I turned 18. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 01:09 AM |
| 0 | Do women lose more from divorces than men?I was 16 and didn’t know enough to see the red flags. Of course he had positive traits- everyone does. I didn’t live with him before we got married, or I might have found out sooner. I thought I was in love, that’s why I married him. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 01:04 AM |
| 0 | Do women lose more from divorces than men?Now if he wasn’t an abusive drug addict, he might have been my type in some ways. That stuff destroys lives, and I’m just not into that. I certainly thought I was in love, but I was 16 and he was 23. 🤷♀️ I learned a lot since then. 😂 | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 12:54 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and share some good information with me! | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?Thanks for the resources, I’ll check them out! But why not be just anti-sexist? | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 12:44 AM |
| -5 | Modern society is sick & toxic for all men now. Just look at the questions being asked about new "rules" for men...That’s crazy. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/24 12:41 AM |
| -8 | Do women lose more from divorces than men?Well, some men you just can’t keep tied down. 😂 The first one was an abusive drug addict that didn’t surface until after marriage. The other two were good men with different priorities besides keeping a family together. 🤷♀️ But never mind me… I’m just here gathering tips so on my next divorce I can make out like a bandit. 😉🤣 But seriously… the wrong thing I was doing was trying to marry someone that made my dad happy rather than myself. Once I figured out what I was looking for in a relationshi… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 11:36 PM |
| -10 | Do women lose more from divorces than men?Hmmm…. I never got a house, or child support, or alimony, or half the 401k, or half the stuff in any of my 3 divorces. Maybe I’m doing it wrong…. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 11:22 PM |
| -18 | Modern society is sick & toxic for all men now. Just look at the questions being asked about new "rules" for men...Women sit on public transportation topless? | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 10:55 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?They seem fundamentally different though - society is made up of men and women, neither with inherent positional authority, whereas society is not separated into “black” people and “police.” The proportions and functions are extremely different between the two. Can you explain how these are similar concepts beyond just one group viewing the other as a hindrance to the goals of their respective activist groups? | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?How are they the biggest obstacle? Can’t there be arguments based on the merits of equality rather than on an “enemy?” It seems that equality should be strived for rather than dominance, and that would put those who are interested in equality for women on the same team as equality for men, no? If these discussions got r/AntiFeminism shut down, wouldn’t it be terrible overall for men’s rights to use this space to discuss it as a substitute? | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 08:45 PM |
| -2 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?Curious- how is that related in your mind? | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?I only get annoyed when pro black activists frame police brutality as a “black” problem rather than a “police should not be brutal to anyone and in fact should be held to higher standards than the average citizen” problem. But that is because framing it as a racial issue doesn’t seem to get at the root of the problem and may, in fact, hinder the solution. Looking at it that way, that’s probably what’s happening here too. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?Thanks! 😃 | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 07:33 PM |
| -1 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?I don’t know… I kinda see your point… Still a bit disappointing because I care about men’s rights and one of the only places here to discuss them is inundated with bitch-fests about feminism. 🤷♀️ Don’t be like them. C’mon. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 07:21 PM |
| -2 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?It’s just an odd thing to see. I would think it being a “Men’s Rights” sub, it would more content about… men’s rights. Instead, it feels like every other post or so is a study in feminism. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 07:15 PM |
| -13 | Does anyone else notice feminists attribute problems men mainly deal with to what women go through, and portray women as being like black people?It’s crazy how many guys in this sub are so preoccupied with feminism. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/24 07:12 PM |
| -17 | Why do many men support women’s issues when women don’t care about men’s issues?I know… not even their own. Strange. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | So many women don't believe in misandryAnd sometimes it isn’t other people censoring us. Sometimes we give other people power over us by censoring ourselves for fear someone else might be upset or offended. Take responsibility for that, because nobody else can change it. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/24 06:25 PM |
| 2 | So many women don't believe in misandryTry not to let it bother you to the point of depression. Society doesn’t “think.” It can’t think - it doesn’t have a brain. Some people might believe this or that- what really matters is what you believe. People generally have a hard time seeing their own inconsistencies. It takes practice and maturity to grow out of that. It’s perfectly normal, although understandably frustrating. What one, two, or even half a million people think is not even close to statistically representative of society as … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/24 04:49 PM |
| 5 | Can men have standards the way women do?I’d venture to say that most people don’t really even know what they want. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 04:20 PM |
| 9 | Can men have standards the way women do?Was about to say this. 😀 | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 03:51 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?You do realize that every thing you are saying here is describing your world view- your personal perspective of how things are? I know you recognize that about what I have been saying. I do live in a reality of how I view things should be. It’s much more pleasant than the alternative. If I want to go live in a reality where things are not as they should be, I ought to make myself a hero there and change it to how I think it should be at least, or it would be unbearably dismal and depressing for … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 01:15 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?It might be hard for you to understand that other people live in different universes when you don’t see the inherent value in others and think of them as no more than objects pushed around by unseen, predetermined forces - I mean, that’s basically it: The inherent value in any human, men included, is that they can create realities to live in and share. I can see that, and you can’t. I hope one day you will. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:35 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?You think there’s such a thing as objective market value regarding people. It is a value, but not the only, or not even the most important thing about a person. “Get the best value…” this ain’t Wal-mart. People are not things. I’m just going to accept the fact that you prefer to live in the misandrist universe you’ve created for yourself where you are not allowed to value yourself. You fight so hard for it. There are better universes out there when you’re ready. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:31 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Some people in society view and treat men as disposable. Those people are dangerously misguided. Stay away from them until they learn how to value others. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:25 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?A person’s inherent value is not relegated to their biological productivity. See #1. See #1. If you can do it, then why are you saying men are disposable, and I’m saying they aren’t again? | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:23 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?It must be miserable to live in your universe. There’s a whole other universe where men are valued. You’re welcome to join it. It may seem small from where you are, but there’s a lot more freedom and room to breathe over here. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:19 PM |
| 5 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Biology might not care what you think, but your son does. If you think either you or he is less valuable because he’s a male, you’re doing you both a disservice. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:16 PM |
| 2 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Maybe if more of you men would stand up for your own worth and value, you wouldn’t need a woman to do that for you. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:12 PM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Male disposability is not an inherent biological function. Don’t pretend like it is. It is a poisonous belief propagated by people like yourself who can’t bring themselves to value another person further than what you can get from them. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:11 PM |
| 2 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?When we remove the men/women qualifiers, it becomes clear that it’s such a universal experience at its core. We can, and should, cultivate relationships with people who care, and care for them in turn. And good lord, avoid people who think you’re disposable. They are sociopaths who will exploit and abuse you. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 12:07 PM |
| 2 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?You have to value yourself enough not to let other people treat you as disposable. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:50 AM |
| 2 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Thank you! 🙏 | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:49 AM |
| 2 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Well said, profanity and all. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:41 AM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?Although I am not able to understand the struggle of men as a man, I am able to, as a person, understand the struggles of other people. We don’t need to be another person to empathize with them and help them. In fact, that is an impossibility- as we are not other people and never can be. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:39 AM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?I don’t need to be a man to value them. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:34 AM |
| 1 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?“So OP, as always, the advice a woman can give you is always this absurd.” Please take it with a grain of salt OP, as I, a woman, am here speaking to the inherent value of men, and this person believes you and your son are disposable. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:20 AM |
| 3 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?I am sorry to hear that you, as a man, believe men are disposable, and I, as a woman, believe men are not. Why would you want to continue believing that? Maybe it has momentum for you, or you are hanging around too many people that believe men are disposable? If we say that the belief that men are disposable is wrong and dangerous, why would you want to propagate that? Wouldn’t that make you part of the problem? Einstein once said that problems can’t be solved with the same mindset that created … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 11:12 AM |
| 3 | How do I explain male disposability to my son when he has a sister?It sounds like you might believe males are disposable. If you want to help your son, you will probably need to address this in yourself first. Males are NOT disposable. Every individual has value and something worthwhile within themselves. It may be true that some people think this way, and as a mother of two sons myself, I absolutely encourage them to first value themselves, and seek out relationships where they are also valued. It isn’t healthy to be around people who think you are disposable … | /r/MensRights | 12/08/24 09:39 AM |
| 13 | “Misandry doesn’t exist!” And what is this?It’s amazing how much people are still surprised by other people saying ridiculous things on social media. Getting riled up by that seems like a waste of time when so much more focus and attention could be put into proactive things for change. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/24 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Men May Be Better Off Staying Single Given the Potential Risks of MarriageWomen too! | /r/MensRights | 10/08/24 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Are current dating dynamics just fucked?It gets a lot of easier when we stop trying to quantify the unquantifiable and realize this rating of 1-10 is a myth. People are attracted to each other for all sorts of reasons. Maybe we can use statistics to describe the past, or a particular view of a thing, but that doesn’t make it true, or a rule moving forward. Nobody has to be appealing to the majority of the population. There’s nothing wrong with you if you aren’t everyone’s cup of tea- nobody is. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?I think custody necessarily favors women for at least a couple of pragmatic, non-feminist reasons. I am sure there are some feminist issues with the court, I am just going to point out other, practical reasons here: For unmarried mothers, it’s fairly obvious. The state can’t place the responsibility of custody on some random person, and doesn’t have the resources to hunt down fathers without at least being pointed in the right direction by the mother. In my state, and many others, unmarried moth… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Is it even possible to be loved as a man if you don't make a lot of money? I sacrificed years for my family, wife, sister, and girlfriends and it cost me my career. I ended up with PTSD and no one I helped cared especially the women I supported.I’ll give you points for creativity, but zero points for truth. That’s not where “jerk” comes from. Fun fact: women can be jerks too! | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 11:08 AM |
| 2 | Is it even possible to be loved as a man if you don't make a lot of money? I sacrificed years for my family, wife, sister, and girlfriends and it cost me my career. I ended up with PTSD and no one I helped cared especially the women I supported.And… do you think that is a good idea? | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 04:06 AM |
| 7 | Is it even possible to be loved as a man if you don't make a lot of money? I sacrificed years for my family, wife, sister, and girlfriends and it cost me my career. I ended up with PTSD and no one I helped cared especially the women I supported.Well yeah, but you’re welcome to do it. Women who shame men for being under 6 ft are silly misandrists. Are you wanting to be a jerk without social repercussions? | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 01:39 AM |
| 9 | Is it even possible to be loved as a man if you don't make a lot of money? I sacrificed years for my family, wife, sister, and girlfriends and it cost me my career. I ended up with PTSD and no one I helped cared especially the women I supported.You can. 🤷♀️ And you’ll probably be seen the same way as women who shame men for not being 6ft. It isn’t like women who do that are respected. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Is it even possible to be loved as a man if you don't make a lot of money? I sacrificed years for my family, wife, sister, and girlfriends and it cost me my career. I ended up with PTSD and no one I helped cared especially the women I supported.People who like to take advantage of you will do such things when you start putting up healthy boundaries. It’s not a woman thing- it’s a manipulation tactic. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/24 12:36 AM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?😂🤣 no. I’m bi, and prefer only one man in my life at a time. I have a few girlfriends though, so does he, and everyone is perfectly okay with this. Edit to add: I never claimed to be a marriage expert. I simply stated I have more experience with marriage and divorce than a lot of people here. When people who have never done either start to spread FUD, it’s helpful to have a voice from someone who has been there and done that a few times. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 08:33 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?How is it bad for them? They have multiple role models in their lives. Again, these are not deadbeats. These are highly successful and admirable men. My children know about each other’s fathers, and even visit their homes. Husband 3’s sons sometimes stay with Husband 2 (in another state even, *gasp), and Husband 2’s (and husband 2’s wife’s son’s sometimes stay with husband 3. There’s 4 boys altogether (2 mine, 2 theirs from other relationships), and they hang out and do boy stuff. Husband 2 is a… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 06:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?😄 I’m 40. Only men count? Not women? At what moment does it “add to the body count?” Penetrative sex? Who gets penetrated? Does someone have to orgasm? Which one? What about mutual masturbation, or on camera stuff? And “serious” meaning wanted to have a lifelong monogamous relationship? I’m also not sure what a simp is. I’ve also never counted. Seems like a strange thing to do. I can say that they were all very successful and fit. Not guys you’d imagine having a hard time scoring. All of them on… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Seriously asking- what states have a “women get everything” rule? Or is it more likely that these things are being a bit exaggerated in some cases? Losing half of anything is no picnic for sure, but to say that’s everything? | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 04:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Holdup- on #3, how could I have known he’d change his mind after 8 years? Seems like a bit much to ask of someone! 😁 I would say that 1 was a childish mistake, and 2 & 3 were for other people, not me. They were men I thought my dad would approve of. It wasn’t until after #3 that I really sat down introspectively to re-evaluate my thought patterns around my relationships either men all the way back to my relationship with my father. 4 is the only man I married and loved for me, for what I actuall… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 04:54 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?I am curious though- I think it’s all okay because everyone involved is fine with everything. To me, that makes it okay. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I sense you seem to think it’s not okay, despite everyone involved being okay with everything. What’s your basis for that? Who else’s opinion and feelings should be considered? And when you guys say “body count” it feels a bit necrophilic. Definitely objectifying. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 03:24 PM |
| -1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?But enough! We can pick who we date, and can choose not to date obvious monsters! (People who make us feel terrible about ourselves) | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 03:01 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Wow! So many people disagree with the idea of individual sovereignty, discernment, and personal agency! Fits the bill for nihilistic people disillusioned with the world. It’s easy to feel that way if you give up your agency to outside forces. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 02:59 PM |
| -2 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Sorry that happened. I didn’t say you had control. I said there are things you can do to reduce risk, though never eliminate it. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 02:57 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Thank you, I am definitely not a liar. I am poly though - two of my marriages were monogamous, one open, and one poly. I never “counted bodies” whatever you mean by that… I wouldn’t know what the rules are to begin. 😅 It’s all okay because everyone involved is okay with it. We get to negotiate the rules of our own lives and relationships. It’s really cool. I think that’s part of the understanding that’s missing here- nothing was “done to” anyone. They were all decisions made by consenting adults… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 02:55 PM |
| -5 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?They should only be losing half… where are they losing everything? | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 02:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?You’ve always been fair, none taken. 😊 Because it takes two to make a relationship work. I can’t force someone to stay in a relationship they no longer want. How would you know I was committed? I married them and had a child with them. I did not leave them. This group does tend to blame women for relationships not working out, so I’m sure to get a bit of skepticism on that. Well, I only left husband #1. He was an abusive drug addict no matter how much I loved him and wanted it to work out. I lef… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 02:47 PM |
| -2 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?You’re assuming my exes lives were ruined, because you can’t see any other possibility, even when it’s staring right at you. I have experience in this world of divorce and marriage you’re so afraid of. More experience than most. But you’d rather listen to people who don’t know what they’re talking about. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 06:49 AM |
| -11 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?50/50 split of marital assets is not designed to make anyone poor, and all laws go both ways in the US. If you’re shooting for anything other than equitable, and out there claiming falsely that a woman can simply marry you and then “take everything you have” you’re part of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 06:46 AM |
| -3 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?Feminism is completely responsible for everything wrong? No. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 06:33 AM |
| -15 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?That’s terrible doomerist stats that are not going to make anything work. If you want to make society better, you have to look at what the 50% making it work are doing. And do that. It isn’t a flip of a coin. You have agency. You can enter into a relationship with someone you vet, you can have frank and honest discussions. You can prepare yourself with counseling and educate yourself on things to make relationships more likely to succeed. You can cultivate the relationship you want. Can you elim… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 01:22 AM |
| -4 | What do you think society can do to encourage family structure and having children?That isn’t how statistics works exactly though. Taking a measurement of 50% at that level does not mean that every individual has a 50% chance translated directly to them. To encourage family structure and having children, we should look at the 50% that works and start breaking down what they are doing differently. Then do those things. Stay away from language like “basically having a relationship and starting a family is like flipping a coin to ruin your life.” That’s not gonna help. Everyone w… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/24 01:17 AM |
| -1 | If we're living in a time where strict gender boundaries are considered sexist, why are men still held to narrow definitions of masculinity? My manhood is questioned the moment I don't follow. If I dress differently, don't pay for everything, or express emotions, I am judged.You’re confusing individuals for the group. Some people, men and women, consider strict gender boundaries sexist. Others do not. Some people are judgy, others are not. It isn’t because people don’t care about men, that’s silly. People are individuals. If they treat you poorly, please honor yourself and find new people. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/24 12:27 PM |
| -1 | Women having it hardPlease don’t make the same mistake. Victimhood and a superiority complex do not put people at the top. Competence, Discipline, and Empathy do. Be good men, with integrity, and develop an unimpeachable character. Please, it’s needed more than ever. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/24 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Would it still be that “women are happier single” if they didn’t get all the special treatment single women are freely given?It’s not an accusation, you chose your own words. I was never arguing with you anyway, even though you wanted to and tried very hard. Maybe you aren’t aware of how you portray yourself. That’s okay. I would suggest working on that if you want better interactions because it doesn’t appear that you approach conversations in good faith. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/24 02:23 PM |
| 0 | Would it still be that “women are happier single” if they didn’t get all the special treatment single women are freely given?Okay. You seem pretty hurt, hostile and defensive. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/24 01:32 AM |
| -1 | Would it still be that “women are happier single” if they didn’t get all the special treatment single women are freely given?What do you think is coming across when you say that most men would prefer to mate with inanimate objects than with their own species? See, I don’t believe it’s possible for anyone to receive the benefit of a human connection from something that isn’t human, or even alive. I think men who are capable of having such a relationship with an object are mentally unstable. In my experience, that is not how I would describe most men. How would such a scenario as you describe be respectful to the needs … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Gen Z want segregated gymsHere as in Reddit. 😊 | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Gen Z want segregated gymsIt’s hard to reason with the low-resolution mentality that can’t discern the difference between subgroups of women. Most of the grievances and confusion you’ll see here boils down to an inability to understand that such differences exist. Edit: This is not a male-thing. This is an ideological thing that happens in almost every group that divides people along only 1 axis, especially with us v. them ideologies. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 06:46 PM |
| 2 | "Who set that system up?"Who set that system up? People in power tend to reinforce systems that keep them in power, while those who would like power attempt to undermine or infiltrate it. The fallacy is dividing it among gender lines - although that may be strategic. As long as people are arguing over a fallacy, they are distracted from what’s going on. The reason it’s a fallacy to divide it that way is because it doesn’t account for the fact that some people will absolutely take advantage of people in their own group i… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 02:32 PM |
| 0 | Would it still be that “women are happier single” if they didn’t get all the special treatment single women are freely given?You realize what you’re saying is that most men don’t respect the personhood of a woman at all and would prefer to pair with a completely controllable and compliant inanimate object over having a human relationship and connection if it means taking into account a woman’s agency? Do you realize that’s one of the primary complaints of feminism- that men don’t actually care about women, they just want a mommy bang-maid that does whatever they want? And what you’re saying here is basically, “yep, th… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?I linked to the stats. 🤷♀️ Backing it up with data, not gaslighting, or making up my own numbers. Maybe you’re looking in places that skew towards feminists. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?It’s the Pareto principle- I just think you might have it backwards. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Wow. It was only 67% in 2021. Edit to add link | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?What is that argument based on? | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 05:26 PM |
| 6 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?I’m glad to hear you’re recovering and focusing on yourself and your kids. Even the most toxic relationships can be difficult to heal from. I wish you strength and happiness, and hope the right person for you comes your way if and when you feel ready to accept that in your life. 💙 | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:24 PM |
| -1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?On chats? Which chats? Many online communities can skew that way because of virtue-signaling and echo-chamber dynamics. Are you saying that 95% of women in Spain are feminist? Or 95% of the women from Spain who frequent these particular chats are? I wouldn’t recommend you take blame either. We can only ever accept responsibility for what we choose to do. We can take responsibility for where we look, who we spend our time with, deciding what is important for us. Sadly, there is no shortage of tox… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:22 PM |
| 0 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?I’m not calling men’s suffering a mole-hill. Hyperfocus on what these feminist groups are doing leads to blowing things out of proportion and getting outraged at things that are not true, don’t affect men, or incite fear of an unlikely situation. There are plenty of serious issues, for sure, and they aren’t to be taken lightly. And then there are rage-bait bits that are really non-issues. I’m talking about the latter. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Wow. I’m sorry to hear that. It must be hard being with someone that turns out to secretly hate you. I don’t understand how people can continue relationships that way. It’s concerning to me that people would hate a person with so little reason, or even hide such feelings- that will ultimately destroy relationships and make people miserable. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:05 PM |
| 0 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Okay. Take care then. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 02:00 PM |
| -2 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it???? 🤣😂🤣😂 | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:42 PM |
| -3 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Did she explain why she hated her dad? And many children do, it doesn’t make them feminist. Sometimes people keep that stuff to themselves for family peace. That doesn’t mean they hate all men. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:39 PM |
| 3 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Connecticut, Florida, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Vermont, and West Virginia are the only states that allow permanent alimony. Don’t live there. All states allow no-fault divorce, I believe, and alimony is decided on a case-by-case basis. There isn’t just lifetime permanent automatic alimony anywhere in the US. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:23 PM |
| -1 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?It just isn’t true. Most women are not either ultra feminist or hypocritical conservatives. It be only appears that way when people get lost down the rabbit hole of feminist ideology and spend egregious amounts of time raging at the feminist agenda, or combing their communities looking for the next mountain to be made from a mole-hill. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Most states already prohibit lifetime alimony, and South Carolina disqualifies from alimony altogether you if you engaged in marital misconduct. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?Date different women. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:06 PM |
| -8 | Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?You’re only downvoted because people don’t want to believe that here. It’s easier to blame society or women than to take responsibility to find what we are looking for. If people are finding the majority of women they encounter to be feminist, they are looking in the wrong places. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/24 01:04 PM |
| 1 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?I think that would be true if it were for an extended time, like what happened with Covid, but I have serious doubts over just one day. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/24 01:22 PM |
| 1 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?I mean, nothing at all could happen too, and men would have to deal with that. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/24 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?It would seem to fit in with power tactics that way- 1. Define/construct a problem 2. Blame others for it 3. Justify oppressing opposition 4. Take power Could be that such a thing does not objectively exist, but is an illusion based in ideology, and useful to certain groups. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 10:21 PM |
| 5 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?Not after 1 day. I didn’t have electricity for a year growing up, and I assure you we did not die. I have also been a part of disaster relief in the aftermath of storms and earthquakes where there was no electricity for weeks. People somehow managed to survive. There are rolling blackouts through California where the electricity goes out for days at times. They’re still kicking. We have things like generators and batteries if the need for electricity really got that bad in 24 hours. It would not… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 09:34 PM |
| -5 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?We can make it a day without electricity. Seems like just walking out for a day only serves to make their work harder when they go back the next day- and they’d also suffer from whatever consequences happen too. They wouldn’t be immune from what happens. It doesn’t seem like a very smart or effective plan. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 05:50 PM |
| -6 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?Thank you. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 03:59 PM |
| -12 | If all men around the world stopped working for a day, what would the effects be?After 1 day? | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?Of course I do! I love them! | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?You can disagree, that’s fine. I have to make that postulation for the context of my argument. It’s a self-reinforcing structure. A feedback loop/virtuous cycle. And you can blame someone for something they aren’t responsible for or not a victim of. It doesn’t make sense to me to consider people a victim of a paradigm, because it takes their own will and choice to not want to be a part of it. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 11:52 AM |
| 2 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?You shouldn’t listen to feminists. Their are not known for their stability and level-headedness. I mean, if they have a well-reasoned and supported point, by all means listen to it. Otherwise…. Consider the source. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!Thank you. I do sincerely try to operate in good faith, and I appreciate you doing the same. Suggesting violence is prohibited in both directions, advising unethical practices like social smearing with accusations is horrible, but not against Reddit’s rules for men or women. I feel it’s a little bit misandrist to suggest that men are treated unfairly by the policy because they aren’t allowed to joke about rape or SA. It seems like you’re suggesting it might be natural or more common or more acce… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 11:41 AM |
| -4 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?Let’s say that “The Patriarchy” is a systemic structure that guides social norms and practices. As I understand, it was an emergent phenomenon rooted in both reproductive biology and generational wealth since the agricultural revolution and the idea of property ownership. Both men and women throughout history have reinforced it because, for better or worse, both benefited from it more than suffered from it on the whole. Now, women have unprecedented control over their reproduction. The decision … | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 09:04 PM |
| 6 | I think we need to meet equality with equality or it will only keep getting worse.It has to be that way. Historically, we have been under the illusion of an infinite growth model- very few groups are able to disband after they have achieved their goals. They must continue to search for the next goal and grow their influence, even if it means manufacturing their goals by turning non-issues into issues. They must continue to justify their existence. It’s some strange form of social survival instinct. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:57 PM |
| 1 | How to teach your man to be a ‘good boyfriend’ | Olivia PetterWell yeah… there are idiots everywhere! We can’t baby-proof the world! | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!I couldn’t tell you who is a man or woman on Reddit anyway. There’s probably a policy against posts suggesting violence- that’s going to prevent a lot of what you are referring to. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicGood luck- the groups I have found are very biased, and have been known to ban balanced perspectives. I really hope this sub doesn’t go that way, although it seems like it might sometimes with the amount of rage bait brought back from feminist groups and the downvotes given to balanced perspectives here. It’s been getting more radicalized over time as far as I can see. I would hate that for you guys. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:24 PM |
| 2 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicBoth men and women can exhibit masculine and feminine behaviors. There’s always going to be some crazy out there looking to blame men for things, the point was that toxic femininity does exist. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:19 PM |
| 1 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicBoth men and women can exhibit masculine and feminine behaviors. There’s always going to be some crazy out there looking to blame men for things, the point was that toxic femininity does exist. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:19 PM |
| 1 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicI’m here because I care about men’s rights. I was banned from that sub. Edit for some context: Every man in my life I’ve ever cared about was male. I have a father, brother, husband, and two sons. Whatever is going on with men in this country has definitely hit my brother the hardest, and I want to make sure my sons have the best life I can give them. Half the population is men, and we need every person in society to be as well-rounded and healthy as possible in order for society to reach its po… | /r/MensRights | 15/04/24 01:07 PM |
| 0 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicYes, I am. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 11:18 PM |
| -4 | How to teach your man to be a ‘good boyfriend’ | Olivia PetterI believe you give power to what you give your attention and energy to. And this sort of thing should be trivialized. It’s asinine and should not be taken seriously, much like any person who actually treats others in this way. Don’t give them power over you. It speaks to who the author is, not to who men are. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 11:18 PM |
| -14 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicI’m not trolling. It really is a thing, and does get used. Maybe not in feminist circles, which it seems like a lot of men tend to frequent around here for some reason. Toxic masculinity has been amplified by this minority of radical feminists, sure, but that doesn’t negate the fact that toxic femininity is a thing, and is used. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Make Male Genital Mutilation (Circumcision) an offence in the UK unless medically requiredPraise be! I’m thrilled to see this post! This is exactly the kind of thing a men’s rights group should do - band together to support positive initiatives for change! Can I sign it if I’m not a UK citizen? I’d love to support this if I can. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Feminism Debunks Itself By Being The Outer Manifestation of Men's Most Potent FantasyThat is toxic femininity btw. 😉 | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 10:09 PM |
| -11 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicSo you haven’t looked it up then. 🫡 | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 10:05 PM |
| -18 | The Atmosphere of the ‘Manosphere’ Is ToxicHave you looked up toxic femininity? It’s a thing. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 10:00 PM |
| 1 | How to teach your man to be a ‘good boyfriend’ | Olivia PetterIt’s an adult humor article. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 08:35 PM |
| -6 | How to teach your man to be a ‘good boyfriend’ | Olivia PetterOh, you mean like “The Good Wife’s Guide?” 😂 Because that’s a thing too. You can choose to get outraged over stuff like this, or laugh and move along. Show people that this stuff isn’t worth taking seriously, because it’s ridiculous and no respectable person would look at this as anything more than adult humor. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 08:35 PM |
| -2 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!Good riddance! Wouldn’t want to be a part of such a bigoted group. It really sounds quite toxic. It’s almost as if they would believe you must believe in and agree with everything you expose yourself to. Can’t be getting balanced information or different perspectives. That’s almost as gross as checking genitalia honestly. Edit: The sub being discussed (unethicallifeprotips) doesn’t. That seems like important context. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 01:30 PM |
| -29 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!Nah, men post unethical life tips on there too…. It’s the nature of that sub. There’s not any good way to tell what’s posted by men or women- Reddit doesn’t check genitalia at the door. It’s a big assumption on OP’s part, and makes the point useless. How can the shoe be on the other foot? It’s a sub where men and women, equally, and with anonymity, can post whatever unethical tip they want. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/24 02:13 AM |
| -4 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!🤯 | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 10:41 PM |
| -32 | Reddit "UnethicalLifeProTips" is FULL of women who are posting, suggesting others make false allegations to ruin MEN'S lives-for minor issues like being a noisy neighbour! And Reddit ALLOWS this-Imagine how quick our sub would be shut down if we posted how to ruin women's lives!Yeah, it’s a sub for unethical tips. That’s the point of it. 😂 | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 10:39 PM |
| -4 | Women rush to defend female family annihilator in comments on Instagram post about recent m*rder-su*cide incident🤣😂 you’re funny. Just remember looks aren’t everything. 😉 I’m not here to convince you of anything, you seem pretty entrenched in your bigotry anyway. Have fun with that! | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 10:14 PM |
| -15 | Women rush to defend female family annihilator in comments on Instagram post about recent m*rder-su*cide incidentProjection is strong with you, chowderhead! Pretty strong assumption of yours to assume what my assumptions are. 🤣 Your response demonstrates that empathy gap well. We should be working to close it rather than exacerbate it though, yes? | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 10:03 PM |
| -22 | Women rush to defend female family annihilator in comments on Instagram post about recent m*rder-su*cide incidentIt doesn’t make it less true that there’s a mental health crisis that’s being ignored. I just don’t get why men are over here pouting and complaining about what women are doing instead of being vocal about the need for mental health access for men. In this case, the women are doing what should be done! Instead of taking it as an example and using it to actually help men’s rights, there’s this atmosphere of childish jealousy whining about how unfair it is. I mean, really? Do you think if women cr… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 08:55 PM |
| -32 | Women rush to defend female family annihilator in comments on Instagram post about recent m*rder-su*cide incidentSorry about your downvotes- this sub can be sick sometimes. We should all be caring more about mental health access than getting pitchforks ready for lynch mobs. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 06:47 PM |
| 1 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"I don’t seriously believe any of it. I am putting up a hypothetical argument. It’s good that you don’t believe everything someone says on the internet, one shouldn’t - not even OP’s assertion. But if you want to know the logic behind my argument- Pharmaceutical companies do want doctors to prescribe their meds, but it isn’t in their interest to have a public discussion around why doctors are hesitant to prescribe them. That hesitancy leads to the dismissiveness we see. And who knows? Could pharm… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/24 02:40 PM |
| 5 | Christianity dumping menChristianity has always placed the burden of leadership and responsibility on the man over the relationship and family. The difference now is that society doesn’t allow men to treat women like property anymore with the ability to “punish” certain behaviors. My sense is that what you’re observing here is how the church is grappling with this traditional family structure in the context of modern egalitarianism. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"I have never heard of trickle-down empathy! 😆 I don’t think it works in the same way as financial economics though- empathy is not a finite resource. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 06:55 PM |
| 2 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"I can see that. There really isn’t a need to bring men into it at all for women to say they feel dismissed when discussing their pain with their doctors. There are certainly plenty of women’s only issues that are painful that are sufficient to discuss needing to take women’s pain management more seriously. I don’t see how it’s in any way throwing male patients under the bus for one person to make an “I feel” statement. It just makes her look unhinged a little. I think throwing male patients unde… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 06:53 PM |
| 0 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"I agree it’s not a gendered issue. Pain management affects everyone, and the dismissiveness of people’s pain stems from a lot of things that need addressed- like the backlash of pharmaceutical companies pushing highly addictive pain killers. But - let’s say that doesn’t get media coverage. That doesn’t get airtime. Pharmaceutical companies would do everything they can to not let that conversation see the light of day if it affected their bottom line. However, if it’s framed as a gender issue, it… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 04:14 PM |
| 1 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"In one sense, it could be said that if it takes making it a gendered issue to get airtime on the topic at all- at least it’s opening the door to a better discussion about pain treatment for all. Sort of like how the racial aspect of police brutality has helped generate a larger discussion about police brutality and ethics in general. Any movement towards less brutality is better than none. Not that I agree with this being the way things should be handled, but sometimes we gotta work with what we… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 02:36 PM |
| -7 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"I don’t know- I don’t see how women getting better treatment for chronic pain affects men’s ability to do so at all. Can you map out the logical connection between how women getting better pain relief makes it more difficult for men to receive treatment for theirs? I’m not saying there isn’t something there, but after watching the ad, I just don’t see the connection you’re asserting and am hoping you can clarify. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 02:29 PM |
| 2 | This has to be satire right? I can't believe how far females will go to victimise themselves.Ah, I think I see what you’re saying. Tell me if this is what you mean: Women are being brave and stepping into roles with a great risk of failure, but instead of celebrating it, the feminist agenda is trying to make these women out to be “victims” of some sort. Not that the women taking these things head on are complaining about the outcome of such high risk and competitively natured positions. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 11:39 PM |
| -11 | Why are men valued for what they do for womenSome people value men that way. It’s a fallacy to cherry pick the ideas of some people and try to make a “rule” of how people should behave on the whole from it. It will drive you bitterly crazy trying to extrapolate that way. IMHO, it’s much better to live by your own definition of what a “real man” is based on what resonates with you. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 09:21 PM |
| 3 | I was looking up Weezer songs on YouTube and was saddened to see how many people would call it incel music because it was about a man longing for loveWhy pay so much attention to people like that as if what they say actually has any meaning or truth to it? Why let those people live in your head rent-free? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 08:37 PM |
| 3 | This has to be satire right? I can't believe how far females will go to victimise themselves.Where’s the victimization? Your quote says that women are accepting these roles. That’s taking responsibility language. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 08:33 PM |
| 7 | As a feminist what can i do to support men’s rights without diminishing those of women?Yes, avoiding demeaning stereotypes is helpful. Terminology like “beta cucks” or “simps,” “hen-pecked”, “pussywhipped” …. Even “incels” and “red-pilled”…. These are all gross, incendiary buzzwords that not only do no one any justice, they drive wedges in society that further harm compassion, understanding, and ultimately equality. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Thanks! It really works out well, and although it takes effort, I can’t say it takes any more effort than any other real relationship. It baffles me. People do claim to want these things from a woman, and I have seen it happen and been a part of it happening well for all parties. I am starting to suspect that the downvotes come from people who don’t actually want a solution, but rather, are looking for group belonging or masculine identity via bonding over a common enemy (women in this instance)… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3No, I have been married 4 times. I am married now. And the divorces I had were not dramatic. It’s really incredible how so many people want to believe that things have to be horrible, dramatic, and ruinous events! That’s what I’m trying to point out by what my experience- things are what you make them to be. If you’re a civil person involved with civil people committed to civil resolutions, things tend to go, unsurprisingly, civilly. If you’re a petty jerk involved with an irrational asshole, th… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3So true. But what other option is there? That’s why I recommend the continual re-evaluation. I, personally, don’t have the stomach for a relationship with dishonest people, but some issues can be resolved with strategies. Lose track of money when using a debit card? Only carry cash. Etc. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3I answered it - 1. I didn’t dodge your question, you overlooked it. ☺️ | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 11:48 AM |
| 4 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3We can’t be 100% about anyone, not even ourselves. Not only do people change over time, we also don’t know how we will respond to situations we’ve never encountered before. We might be able to conceptualize what we think we might do, but we are notoriously bad at predicting how we actually will behave under the pressure and emotions of an imminent situation. That’s why honest, good-faith communication is so important to me. Without it, a relationship is a ticking time bomb. It’s very difficult t… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 10:41 PM |
| -1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3It’s possible people don’t believe me. Sometimes it feels like there is a very strong negativity on how women behave, and if you don’t fit that worldview as a woman- boy do they pile up on you in this sub! It’s kind of confusing, you would think that people would be happy about it, or try to figure out how we can make that more common! It’s because I cared about my partners. I deeply believe in men’s rights, and love everyone to come out of a situation in the best possible way. This is especiall… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 10:24 PM |
| -1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3I don’t understand your question or how it’s related. Can you please clarify what you mean? | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 09:19 PM |
| 0 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3See, you’re assuming they are mistakes because they don’t fit your framework. They were intentional decisions made by consenting adults. Depends on what vow you make! You know you can write your own? You’re also making the assumption that I was primarily the one who wanted to end the marriages. It was only about my happiness inasmuch as it was connected to the happiness of those I cared about. Why would you think anyone’s life has been ruined? See, I think that mindset is tyrannical and beats pe… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 09:18 PM |
| -14 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Yeah, I don’t agree with the inherently responsible thing. That’s a discussion that needs to be had. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:58 PM |
| -2 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3First off, we are poly, so that wouldn’t make any sense to do. And second, I didn’t ditch any of my partners. We agreed to separate. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:56 PM |
| -1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3That’s the thing- there isn’t any drama in my life or these relationships. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:55 PM |
| 0 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/31. I think it depends on how you cope. I have been through a lot of self-reflection, and conflict management. I have worked with multiple therapists in understanding the nature of relationships and why people behave the way they do. I don’t have my identity wrapped up in my partner, and I understand compassion as well as healthy boundaries. Mostly though, I would say that I have a much sunnier outlook on relationships and greater appreciation for the opposite sex than many of the vocal people on… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:54 PM |
| -1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3🤣 my kids are very well adjusted. My oldest has had the privilege of seeing both healthy and unhealthy relationship dynamics, and we have very open and frank discussions about relationships- how to evaluate them when you’re in them, how your self-awareness plays a role, why we treat others the way we do, etc. We never took on the burden of thinking our marriage and divorce was a failure, shame, or fault of anyone, so we never passed that on to him as something he should turn away from or feel ba… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3If my partner doesn’t want to be married, what right do I have to force them? Should I ask them to compromise who they are or want for me? If no, then that’s a two-way street. I’ve always went as far as they wanted to go. You just can’t make people be someone they aren’t, and I don’t feel it’s right to compromise myself if I wouldn’t think it’s right for them to do. I don’t want anyone giving up on their dreams or compromising their values for me. We either find a way together to make a life tha… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:31 PM |
| -2 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3For those who think of marriage as something that is supposed to be with one person and lasts a lifetime, that’s their preconceived notion which could lead to the judgement I’m referring to. I don’t view it that way, and neither did the men I was married to. Marriage is a legal contract that carries with it certain advantages in society. The relationship itself is another thing entirely. Without having those things separate in one’s mind, it would be difficult to understand why one would marry a… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Why does one of the individuals have to be a problem? See, that’s where I reject the premise of the traditional marriage model. If one of the pair doesn’t die first, it’s a “failure” and it’s somebody’s fault. I just don’t think that’s useful. I’m not one for going around trying to place blame or fault on someone for reality not fitting my mal conceived ideas about how life should work. Especially not someone I care about. Nobody needs to carry around that weight. I’m more aligned with continuou… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 08:00 PM |
| 0 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3🤣 Nah, I think I finally found my nesting/life partner. I’m good. 😊 | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 07:42 PM |
| -4 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3I ‘d say I have a lot of experience! 🤣 | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3I agree- I just think it’s silly not to have it before marriage. Or after marriage. Continually. 😀 | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 06:59 PM |
| -9 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Yeah, not financially. I’ve seen men more expect women to step in and be mothers to their kids. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 06:58 PM |
| -1 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3😅😂🤣😂🤣😅 That’s hilarious, but you are welcome to your opinion. Would you rather people stay in a relationship that doesn’t work for anyone than part ways and continue to support each other? I’m sure we have completely different philosophies. That’s okay. People who only look at the superficial aspects of something are never going to have a deeper understanding of it. I think, first, it’s necessary to understand that the roots of problems in our lives stem from where reality does not match our map… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 06:54 PM |
| -13 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Yes. I have been married 4 times. I know people are going to judge that based on their preconceived notions of marriage. That’s fine. I have three children with three of the husbands. We still have great relationships (excepting the first husband, with whom I do not have a child), had amicable separations, I did not take anything from them, and they don’t pay child support. We are all re-married or re-committed in other relationships, and the children are flourishing. They all also have other ch… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Yeah, this stuff has to be talked about, defined, and continually re-evaluated. I think most of these relationship problems are from people not understanding that you have to communicate honestly and follow through on agreements. If you can’t do that, you aren’t ready for a relationship much less marriage. It will be doomed or extremely rough sailing. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 05:44 PM |
| 5 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Thank you for saying “women like that.” It’s important to empower men to know bad or toxic relationship patterns and how to avoid/escape them. Reinforcing the idea that it’s women in general leaves men ill-prepared for healthy relationships, skeptical of genuine partnership, and frankly lonely and disillusioned. Conversations about finances and responsibilities has to be had before moving in together, certainly before marriage, and continuously re-evaluated. If you can’t or won’t have these conv… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 05:41 PM |
| -26 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Jeez- men do this too. It isn’t a gender problem, it’s a people problem. Do your best to know who you are marrying and stay vigilant about the relationship. Make it clear that you won’t stay in a dishonest relationship. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 05:30 PM |
| -20 | Rant: Wife claims husband only pays 1/3 of all the expenses in the household and she pays 2/3Nah, I have never asked or expected any of my husbands to pay for or support any of my other husband’s children. The mistake isn’t marrying a single mom, it’s marrying someone who expects you to do things without discussing or agreeing to said things. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 05:29 PM |
| 2 | AZ just made abortion illegalWhat do you hope to gain for men’s rights by being petty and hateful? Sincerely, do you think that’s going to be effective or gain respect or motivate people? I understand the frustration, it just seems like this tactic or strategy hasn’t been well-thought out. What’s your objective or end game? Please help me understand your logic. After all, isn’t that what sets anything apart from the illogical, subjective, and emotionally based arguments of feminism which are so detestable? | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 03:36 PM |
| 2 | AZ just made abortion illegalYeah, I said mostly men. You must not have noticed. 😅 | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | AZ just made abortion illegalI don’t know if you noticed, but it’s been mostly men making the laws around here… What makes you think women don’t care? Aside from the vocal extremist minority of misandrists out there, that is. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 11:19 AM |
| -9 | AZ just made abortion illegalSeems like a rather selfish perspective- “I can’t be bothered to care about what happens to other people or how that might impact society as a whole or those I supposedly care about because I don’t have what I want.” Seems … petulant. I mean, sure there are things that could be better, but to have that perspective is just … I can’t see how that’s going to motivate anyone for men’s rights. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/24 01:07 AM |
| 2 | I'd like to get an opinion hereJust try not to take it personally- the voting is a reflection of the ideology in a sub, not at all to do with your own personal experience or how well you articulate something. It doesn’t feel good and I wish it was different, but it does help one gauge what the ideology of a particular group is. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/24 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Hope men here only have issues w hardcore feminists and not women in general!Not just “not all women.” Feminists like that are a loud minority of women. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/24 12:03 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?Those are your inferences, not my implications. What you are saying is the product and projection of your thought process, not mine. Understanding history is vital to providing context for our present and values and aspirations to construct our future. It breaks my heart that you are so callous and uncaring towards men that you prefer to entrench them in and justify nihilistic outlooks rather than lift them up and help them break free of this false idea that they are doomed to purposelessly slav… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/24 03:47 AM |
| -2 | "All men" versus "most women"Who are you accustomed to hearing that from? What groups are you a part of? I mean you know it isn’t true. Sane people know it isn’t true. And you’ll never convince someone who’s using it because they know it isn’t true-truth isn’t the point of that discussion method. It’s a trap. Holy crikey Batman, that’s a spiral. Don’t take someone who does that too seriously. Think of the most articulate people you know of - they don’t use techniques like that. When you see that technique employed, take it … | /r/MensRights | 05/04/24 12:36 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?Is it a way a man can choose to live? Yes. Is it the way most men do? No. It’s an attempt to frame a horrible life experience as the only or default option. That is the myth that needs to die. It beats men down instead of building them up! Men are powerful, have choice, and can build the life they want. They are not victims like this narrative tries to make them believe. You don’t have to support a woman who doesn’t work full time if you don’t want to. Have that conversation in your relationship… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 07:36 PM |
| 0 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?It’s the epic tale to go into the unknown and risk death in battle to come out on the other side. I am baffled that you don’t know this. Yes there has been conscription in the past, but being a warrior or hero has been considered noble for a long time - with death in battle or as a sacrifice for a cause being amongst the highest and most respected forms of devotion. These may not be your personal feelings, and I can respect that- even agree! But that’s history, not something I am making up. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 02:44 AM |
| -1 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?That isn’t what I said. Nice strawman and ad hominem though- it makes sense why you’re having difficulty with understanding the logic I am using. Why is today worse, that male suicide rates are so high? Are they higher than in the past? Being a part of an army has been considered noble for a long time, and dying in battle considered honorable. What you personally feel about it doesn’t change the way it was framed and accepted for millennia. It doesn’t just embody the warrior or hero stereotype, … | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 02:38 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?Nope. I never said that. I think men are killing themselves more frequently now because they don’t have a sense of purpose. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 01:05 AM |
| 0 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?No, it isn’t. But a lot of men in the past worldwide used to think so though. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 01:05 AM |
| -2 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?That’s your logic, not mine. I am pointing out that we don’t really teach it much, and that we, as a society, have struggled hard and come a long way. That’s something to be celebrated and built upon. Going to war isn’t a purpose. Investing one’s life in something one believes in is…. I see a shortage of that among men nowadays. In the past, for better or worse, it gave men a sense of purpose. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 01:04 AM |
| -6 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?Men used to die much more frequently in battle. Dying for a causes was noble. I wonder how much war has decreased contributes to the sense of loss of purpose and camaraderie. Also, I really think we need to do a better job teaching about what was the horror of the 1900s. Almost every continent suffered from mass death and destruction. Learn about the wars and political movements that killed millions and then tell me how bad we have it in society now…. Sorry you’re so down-voted. Just know it’s a… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/24 03:32 PM |
| -9 | What are your thoughts on male suicide rates?This myth needs to die. It’s not doing you guys any good. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/24 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps are really getting out of hand with demands... what about us?I think it’s an important distinction to make that it’s how the vast majority of women in a certain demographic on dating apps think of men. Because without that part, it becomes a trope in men’s groups that the vast majority of women are shallow and transactional. When this is how women in general are spoken about, it becomes believed- and that important detail about which demographic and where you find them gets lost. I see a lot of instances where people let their experience on TikTok, for ex… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Dating apps are really getting out of hand with demands... what about us?Ehhhh…. The women on dating apps are NOT a representation of the vast majority of women. They’re only a representation of the vast majority of women using that dating app…. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 04:14 AM |
| 4 | Anyone feel like men are being viewed as one dimensional in relationships?It doesn’t fit what the people who downvoted want to believe. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 06:52 PM |
| 19 | No man should marry a liberal/feminist woman.Yes- the “advice” of what men should or shouldn’t do based on the over generalized and biased opinion of one jaded person doesn’t really seem to touch on Men’s Rights issues, or what can be done to improve them, does it? It’s frustrating for those of us who genuinely care about men’s rights to see attempts at exploring and addressing them undermined in this way. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 12:09 PM |
| 1 | No man should marry a liberal/feminist woman.Why shouldn’t men marry who they choose? I fully believe in a man’s ability to make decisions for himself. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 12:04 PM |
| 15 | Are women allowed here too?Sooooo…. Like any group or forum, there are people here who all have different views. Some are more welcoming than others, and some hold different views on feminism or what men’s rights are, or how things should be fixed in society. My experience as a woman here has been a mixed bag, but overall much better than some “women’s spaces.” For example, I haven’t been banned here yet for expressing opposing views! I have been pretty heavily downvoted though. 😂 Whatcha gonna do? 😂. The mods here keep t… | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Are women allowed here too?I was. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/24 12:17 AM |
| -1 | Anyone feel like men are being viewed as one dimensional in relationships?To be fair, a lot of women will just roll their eyes and move on. They won’t comment on anything like that, if it even comes up in their algorithms at all. People who don’t engage with that sort of content won’t typically even see it. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themThanks for the time you spent illustrating your perspective. I don’t know that I agree that women think similarly. That hasn’t been my experience. It isn’t one that I observe in men either. Sure some men think similarly, as do some women, but it isn’t obvious to me to the point I could identify a pattern of thought as a “woman’s way,” or “man’s way.” I actually think that’s a pretty sexist presupposition and a basis for the argument that gender is a social construct. I said it’s silly to think t… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching them“That’s funny considering when it comes to men, generalizations are not only OK but preferable.” Verbatim. I disagree. Where is the strawman again? But yes, he said, not you said. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 02:10 AM |
| 0 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themHe said they are okay. 🤷♀️ | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 12:25 AM |
| 0 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themWhat straw man? You said generalizations were okay when it comes to men. I disagreed and ask why you think that. Do you know what a straw man argument is? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 09:03 PM |
| 0 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themI’m not trying to defend women. We are not a tribe. I am pointing out that an error in categorical thinking can lead to a misconception that causes a lot of confusion and misplaced blame- which can better be resolved by refactoring categories to a higher resolution than complaining and expecting the figment of imagination to change. Reasons why you might not see them: - looking in the wrong place - looking for the wrong thing - not all squeaky wheels of extremism are worth taking seriously enoug… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 09:01 PM |
| 3 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themI detest the habit of using legal threats to enforce things like this. Social interaction needs to be negotiated. You can’t legislate away minimally uncomfortable experiences in life. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themGroupthink is a human thing, and manifests in many forms. So is categorical thinking. They have their advantages, but they are not absolute. People are still individuals, and groups can be sub-divided depending on the sophistication of your categorical thinking. 😉 Even the feminist movement is sub-divided, with an array of different beliefs involved- some of them conflicting. There may be a multitude of reasons why you don’t see women speaking up against what you see on social media from extreme… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themI sense a lot of fear-monger if from the media. There may be some changes in legislation, but that’s not necessarily representative of actual experience. There are still social norms that regulate the majority of interactions- I am not confident we’ll see a wave of legal prosecution against run of the mill unwanted advances. Fingers crossed! | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themIn that context, it makes sense. It’s still a categorical judgement though, where a higher resolution of “women” could change the balance of that equation. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 03:28 PM |
| 0 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themThe post and conversation seems to be about approaching- not necessarily hitting on. I think it’s a bit different having someone approach and ask if you would be interested in a coffee than having a stranger make an inappropriate comment in an attempt to flatter and show interest. Maybe I am misunderstanding the difference? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 03:25 PM |
| -7 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themGeneralizations aren’t okay when it comes to men. Why would you think that? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 03:11 PM |
| -17 | Women are upset that Aussie men have stopped approaching themWomen are not a homogeneous group. Some women complain about behavior that other women enjoy. Why do we pretend that some members of a group speak for all members of a group? Seems a little harsh to judge people for our own stereotyping, no? It’s an understandable phenomenon when you consider the structure and purpose of categorical thinking. We sample a group of, attribute qualities we observe to the whole group, and then stereotype when we meet new members of the same category. It’s a type of … | /r/MensRights | 10/02/24 11:36 AM |
| 1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.Of course. And one of the ways to do that is by speaking up against it when you see it, and encouraging anyone who is experiencing it to stand up to it in a safe and intelligent way. Do that with confidence. You know what’s right, and it is self-evident. When we let fear guide us, we give power to those who would exploit us for their gain. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 11:47 PM |
| 1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.Exactly. . . . I guess maybe don’t put too much weight in the opinions of people who are clearly wrong and have trash values? 🤷♀️ | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 11:12 PM |
| 1 | How long will men and boys advocacy have to repeat itself?Yes. Edit to add: I am against it because it is a discriminatory practice, and discriminatory practices are wrong, not necessarily because of the outcome itself. Doing a wrong thing isn’t justifiable because it produces an outcome we want. The ends do not justify the means - the means justify the ends. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 09:09 PM |
| 1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.There is something here that needs a distinction: A person who laughs at a man being abused by a woman does not make that abuse acceptable. It means that person has trash values. Many people in a society having trash values does not make an abuse acceptable. I think those things are often conflated- it’s like saying genocide is acceptable if a majority of a culture supports it, justifies it, or at least ignores or tolerates it. No, it is not acceptable, ever. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 08:49 PM |
| 1 | How long will men and boys advocacy have to repeat itself?Discrimination is never the answer… it’s the problem. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 08:16 PM |
| 2 | How long will men and boys advocacy have to repeat itself?I don’t support preference based on gender. I think gender is irrelevant to competence. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 07:36 PM |
| 1 | I'm tired of having to prove myself to be "worthy" of a woman. I don't want to be "loved" because of my achievements or goals. I don't want to be a wallet for a partner who says I have privellage.Yes!!! This is so important in many aspects of life that require some form of negotiation. The person who can walk away from something has the upper hand in a negotiation. People who “need” something will sacrifice to get it, and that attracts people who will gladly tell you what to sacrifice for them. Value your independence and freedom, and you will find others who do the same. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 07:32 PM |
| 3 | How long will men and boys advocacy have to repeat itself?As long as it takes. These things take a tremendous amount of effort and time to change. As horrible as the numbers are, repeating them over and over isn’t enough to change anything because they are not actionable. Until we have a better understanding of what is going on that causes these outcomes, we won’t know which buttons to press or levers to pull to effect the change we want to see. What specific initiatives are there we can get behind to support? Something specific and measurable, like de… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 01:01 PM |
| 7 | Women spaces are so toxicI was banned from a couple of women’s spaces for sharing my views on why trans women are different from cis women. Some of these spaces have been taken over by trans ideology that refuses to accept any differing view besides complete acceptance that trans and cis women are exactly the same. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/24 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Here we go again…Yeah, you’re the kind of person who thinks making fun of people is hilarious. You need to take some accountability for yourself and grow up. You tell on yourself. 😂 | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Here we go again…Just because you didn’t doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen a lot. And it isn’t nice to be a dick to people with Asperger’s. I am not a victim and have never claimed to be. Your words speak to who you are not me. It’s a shame that bothers you so much. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 08:48 PM |
| -2 | Here we go again…Good thing I’m not a know-it-all then 😂 Many people here don’t like me because I’m a woman and you can see it in my photo. It doesn’t matter what I say. In another account where you can’t tell I’m a woman, I don’t get downvoted like that. There are plenty of men here who like to complain that women don’t respect or support them, yet when a woman is here doing that, they try to berate and quash it. 🤷♀️ Edit: The specific reason why I picked that particular thing to fix* is because it is heavily … | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 02:17 PM |
| -5 | Here we go again…At least I am not sexist or feminist, and I genuinely care about men’s rights. This place is full of misogyny which does far more damage than any feminist doctrine can See me being down-voted for pointing out that a victim fetish is bad for anyone regardless of gender? Do you guys think that mindset serves men but is pathetic for women? If you want to change things and make the world a better place, we need to face the world with courage and come up with real solutions. Sitting around whining ab… | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 12:40 PM |
| -11 | Here we go again…“No animal as sadly pathetic and unable to handle the real world, than the victim fetish human.” FTFY | /r/MensRights | 08/02/24 12:28 AM |
| -2 | Is it normal for men to be degraded and disrespected by their wife?No, it isn’t normal. If it feels wrong, and something you shouldn’t accept, you are right and you don’t have to. There are ways to work through this in your relationship, you have to communicate with each other. Even if you two are not good at communicating, it’s worthwhile to get better in any way you two can think of. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 10:56 PM |
| -2 | Is it normal for men to be degraded and disrespected by their wife?No, it isn’t normal. OP is asking if it’s normal, it isn’t. If he’s asking, it isn’t normalized. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 10:53 PM |
| -1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.Exactly… men are afraid of the response they believe they will receive if they stand up for themselves in a forthright and honest way. As long as they are afraid, they will be handing their power over and will continue to be victims. Now, I am not suggesting violence, or any sort of uncontrolled emotional response. It is absolutely possible to say, “the way you are treating me is unacceptable, and I won’t put up with it.” Do whatever it takes to take the high road, to handle things appropriately… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 09:56 PM |
| 0 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.I absolutely agree. I’m no fan of circumcising at all. And I don’t know what parenting classes teach that, they sound terrible and sexist. I don’t agree that just because we hear mention of people wanting to teach their boys to be respectful to girls, that means that the new expectation in society is that girls don’t have to be taught or expected to be respectful towards boys. I don’t think one implies the other. That’s my point. I think that it is a problem that some parents don’t treat their c… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.No, it’s not far more acceptable. I think men are afraid of what people will think if they say they are being abused by a woman- as if their manhood is in question- but that is in a man’s own mind. Men should absolutely not accept physical abuse, and if it happens, they need to speak up. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 06:48 PM |
| -5 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.Interesting….. because this is verifiable information, and I have also had a son whose father chose to have him circumcised. And my apologies- it is a local not general anesthesia. Where do you get your information? | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 06:38 PM |
| -14 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.That’s …. Wow. Where to start. Circumcision in the US is done under general anesthesia. It’s a terrible practice, but it isn’t done how you describe. Letting a child self soothe or not are two different camps of thought, and are not split along gender lines as you describe. Have you taken parenting classes or studied anything about common and current child raising theories? None of them are based on sex like you describe. We hear constantly about boys needing to be taught to be respectful and gi… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:24 PM |
| -1 | I noticed how people teach young boys to respect girls, but people never teach young girls to respect boys.They never say that about women because it’s implied. That’s kind of the thing -where women are taught from a young age to be quiet and respectful especially towards boys and men. What you tend to hear is what people intend to do that stands out- that’s why it’s mentioned. What you will hear about girls is that people will say they’ll be sure to teach their daughters to speak up for themselves and be strong and independent. Because that hasn’t been the norm. Same thing with the boys- they weren’… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Women will divorce a man and take his child for asking for a paternity test but will have a "go-bag" ready in case she has to run away from himA DNA test would be better for those things… but I don’t think it’s a good idea to make it mandatory. Besides, without the DNA testing of the relatives on the father’s side, there wouldn’t be any reliable way to tell that they were an actual risk factor…. If grandpa had heart disease, are we sure that dad was really grandpa’s? | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Women will divorce a man and take his child for asking for a paternity test but will have a "go-bag" ready in case she has to run away from himA paternity test doesn’t go into genetics farther than whether paternity can be established or not. It doesn’t speak at all to genetic predisposition to certain traits that may or may not have been passed down, especially if the father is unaware of their genetic predispositions as well. For genetic factors regarding health, you’d need a much more thorough test. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:48 AM |
| -2 | Women will divorce a man and take his child for asking for a paternity test but will have a "go-bag" ready in case she has to run away from himDNA tests do, not paternity tests. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 12:31 AM |
| -10 | Mandatory DNA TestRequesting a paternity test in response to a child support request is already within men’s rights. If he verifies paternity, he has a right to shared parenting as well. If a husband feels a paternity test is justifiable, then the trust in their relationship is already broken. That’s typically the reason why the divorce is sought as far as I understand, not because of paternity. That’s an accusation of infidelity that’s pretty hard to come back from. Making it mandatory is basically saying that w… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 10:45 PM |
| -11 | Mandatory DNA TestWhy? I am sure it matters to some men, but not to all men. Some men are happy to be fathers even if not genetically. And men can ask for a DNA test before paying child support if they wish. What is the benefit to making it mandatory? | /r/MensRights | 06/02/24 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Incels - myth vs realityVery good answer, thank you! | /r/MensRights | 05/02/24 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Incels - myth vs realitySerious question- if they can get sex but choose not to, how are they “incels?” (INvoluntarily CELibate) | /r/MensRights | 05/02/24 03:58 AM |
| 1 | I got called a pedophile rapist for suggesting male only gymsThat person sounds unhinged and maybe stay away from them? But just so you know… a person off their rocker calling you a name does not make you that thing. It makes them cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, but doesn’t make you anything. I try not to put too much stock in what the crazies say… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 01:36 AM |
| 3 | On dates and in friendships women feel way to comfortable bullying men for things they can't control. They'll mention how they deserve a better guy than you.Gah… don’t hang around people like that! | /r/MensRights | 04/02/24 12:25 AM |
| 7 | Going Against the Current as A WomanPower dynamics are strange. Using aggression to enforce an idea is somewhat of a matrix- group to individual on one axis vs. overt to subvert on the other. You end up with 4 quadrants, (group, overt) = war, (group, subvert) = social ostracism/censorship, (individual, overt) = assault, and (individual, subvert) = emotional abuse/gaslighting. Overt and Subvert tend to correlate more to whether or not success is likely with physical aggression. Larger, more powerful entities have tended towards the… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/24 09:27 PM |
| -21 | The loss of men's spaces, and who it hurts most.Sounds like someone who shouldn’t be taken seriously. Just because someone lacking in class pulls a stunt like this and gets an article for it (probably for some clicks), doesn’t mean that’s the whole of society though. Believing it is can cause some serious issues… please be careful with that. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/24 03:54 PM |
| 9 | The loss of men's spaces, and who it hurts most.Completely. It’s hard to take people seriously who shame others for healthy social interactions. Seeing posts like this surprises me a little at the response from men…. Why even take their comments seriously? I don’t take advice from people so condescending and selfish. What they say has no impact in my life other than to discredit themselves and give me a heads up to steer clear of those personalities. Why dignify it with power? Or fear that it’s actually how the real world works? Don’t listen … | /r/MensRights | 02/02/24 03:51 PM |
| 2 | "Girls run the world."The world is full of idiotic stuff like this. I just tune out what isn’t helpful and focus on things that are uplifting and cultivating. And teach my boys not to get their self worth from t-shirt slogan fads. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/24 03:51 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowI can see why it would seem that way - if one presumes that a relationship is supposed to be forever. Anything short of that would seem like a failure. I don’t have that presumption. I have seen too many couples stay married and secretly despise each other to consider that any sort of measure of success. I have seen what people are willing to do to each other in the name of loving each other that are really games of fear and control. I don’t believe a relationship exists if both people are not e… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/24 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Something that alot of people on this sub need to hearThat’s in line with a theory I am working on. People are categorical thinkers. It makes things easy by enabling cognitive offloading, and why we are superb pattern-seekers. Unfortunately it also creates the opportunity for bias and stereotyping, especially where categories overlap, are ill-defined, or low resolution. I theorize that why gender and race are such hot-topics in society is because the collective unconscious is attempting to re-categorize some things and define them in a higher resol… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 06:51 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowControlling types aren’t my type, what can I say? Those are boys playing at being men. Once they integrate their shadow, learn how to take responsibility for their emotions, and cease to be threatened by competence, then they’ll be able to be a strong and secure, mature and responsible partner. Wanting a partner to be lesser than you so you can feel better about yourself reeks of fear and insecurity. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 06:20 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowSigh. You seem so certain, yet there’s no guarantee the 33yo would have been asked once and I can guarantee I have been asked 4 times. I’m still married, and do not have baggage. You seem to have some pretty sizeable preconceived notions. Projecting them on others then judging them for it doesn’t lead anywhere happy. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowOnly respectable men give a shit about these things. 😉 | /r/MensRights | 30/01/24 06:10 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowMy first husband, I just didn’t want him to be abusive he didn’t want to be different. Husband 2 and I had different career paths that neither wanted to sacrifice - we were both in different military branches. Husband 3 decided he no longer wanted a family. I didn’t become unhappy with them long-term. Their wants are important too, and I can’t control other people or their growth. If someone wants to leave a relationship, what can I say or do to make them stay? When you love someone, you support… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:56 PM |
| 0 | Hard pill for women to swallowTrue! 😂 how very kind of you. 😅 And the same goes for the men out there as well. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 08:20 PM |
| -2 | Hard pill for women to swallowNot at all- I wanted all my husbands. Sometimes things don’t work out for all of eternity for a variety of reasons. Relationships are difficult and take consistent renegotiation if we expect them to continue to serve everyone in it as we grow and change. I wouldn’t say they were interested in my career per se, but definitely interested in the qualities I possess that also make me successful in my career more so than anything to do specifically with homemaking (which I am also very good at). My s… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Hard pill for women to swallowHehehe, I think everyone has some standard 😂 And I disagree. The man I married didn’t marry me for my cooking or homemaking skills. 😂 And I’ve been married 4 times… I think that’s proof that I have been statistically significantly more marriageable than a 33 yo virgin who has never been married once. Can’t argue with the math. 😂🤣 | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 07:31 PM |
| 5 | Hard pill for women to swallowCharacter, skills, resources, those sorts of things. Youth is potential. That’s powerful, but we have to wisely trade it for expertise and substance over time if we expect to collaborate effectively with others. It’s hard to join a team without having anything to offer. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I completely agree. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 03:04 PM |
| 9 | Hard pill for women to swallowInteresting take. Being an older woman on the dating scene I can say that hasn’t been my experience. I can certainly see if the only value you had was your youth, then once that’s gone it’s gone. You have to cultivate other value in yourself. If you spend your younger years without doing this, you may find yourself at that point with nothing to offer- but that isn’t inherently an age-related thing. It’s a “did you use your time wisely” thing. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 02:33 PM |
| 1 | It's coming... the end of women's thirst monopoly.Wouldn’t it still be a problem that… they aren’t women? What about these would make a difference? I am seriously curious. Throughout history, men have had… alternative companionship on many different levels. Some of them human, such as homosexual partners or transsexual partners. What you are suggesting here seems to be that a non-human, inanimate object can be a suitable substitute for human intimacy- particularly with females. What negative impacts would it have on men to prefer these items ov… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 12:01 PM |
| -6 | Are women taking over all the jobs?It’s the field I have been in, and it’s true. Men were the project managers, women were the business analysts and project coordinators. PM salaries were higher, titles higher in the org chart, but job responsibilities the same. You don’t have to buy my “nonsense.” Take the PMBOK and the BABOK and do a comparative analysis. Then go do some research on the salaries and demographics. Call a few companies that hire for these roles and talk to recruiters. Edit to add: I have actually done this resear… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I’m not meaning to be intellectually dishonest- I’m not sure what I said that came off that way. Although there definitely is discrimination in these fields, I agree that the policy is misguided. I believe a lot of women choose not to go into them and the policy isn’t addressing the root problem. I think the problem is more of an in-group out-group bias that tends to happen anywhere there is a dominant characteristic present in something greater than around 75-80% of a population. I think it hap… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 11:04 AM |
| 2 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I see. These seem like unskilled labor roles that don’t require education either. My hypothesis is that these are (and have been for a significant amount of time) roles filled predominantly with women because there is a subset of labor that women physically cannot do. I’m talking on aggregate, not as individuals. As women cannot work in those roles, and the need for both sexes to work in a household increases, more women have to join the workforce somewhere. Have you done any research into wheth… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I did- media editing, directing and producing. Clergy as in all religions (except probably Wiccan). Whether or not it affects you is irrelevant to whether or not it’s a male-dominated field. You might not ever fly in helicopters, but that doesn’t make the fact that helicopter pilots are overwhelmingly men irrelevant. As with all those others, despite the push to hire more women in these roles, they are still overwhelmingly occupied by men. There does not seem to be any sort of “take-over” happen… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Yeah, hiring unqualified people over qualified people seems like a baaaaad idea. As a woman, I hate this policy too because it undermines any personal achievement I’ve made and loses respect among men. Too many would believe that I only moved up because I’m a woman rather than because I’m competent, and I feel like that just makes it all worse. It also sucks not to know if I’m being given an opportunity because I deserve it or because I’m a token female filling a diversity role. That will really… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I agree that’s problematic. I’m no fan of “equality of outcome” policy because it seems to go against free will. I truly believe that when given the opportunity to choose for ourselves, men and women will choose differently on the whole, and there will be some careers that are male-dominated and others that are female dominated. As long as there are no barriers for people choosing for themselves, I don’t see any issue with that. However, individuals have bias. I happen to be a woman that falls o… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/24 10:32 AM |
| 4 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I didn’t say who cares if people are incompetent. I was asking that if men were still dominant in areas that require competence and accountability because the argument being made is that men are more competent and accountable (hence why they are still dominant in those fields), what is the issue? | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 10:39 PM |
| 5 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I was pointing to a plethora of careers that are still male-dominated, but are not unpleasant or dangerous. I suppose I don’t understand- if the jobs women are taking over are only the ones where competence and accountability are not necessary for success, and men overwhelmingly dominate fields where those qualities are selected for, what is the issue? Are we afraid women will one day be able to compete successfully with men on an even level? Wouldn’t this fact be evidence that men are still sup… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 09:56 PM |
| -1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I’m curious- what do you mean by “normal jobs?” | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?😂 yeah, true. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 08:45 PM |
| 0 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Fintech, Aviation, Architecture, Clergy, Media Editing, Directing and Production, Commercial and industrial design, Chemists, Coaching…. All predominantly male. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Pharma sales reps are seen as some snakes… idk where you are getting your info here. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Well, from personal experience… that’s not correct. It’s the hours and competitive nature of it. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I don’t understand- are you implying that car salesmen tend to be men because men are inherently untrustworthy? I don’t agree with that… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 08:02 PM |
| 5 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Honestly, our team figures it’s the hours. Dealership schedules tend to be insane, and not many women choose that because it makes it hard to take care of a family. The only other woman in the sales floor with me also has a husband who takes on a larger role at home than traditional. And the men are either single or have more traditional wives who care for the homes and families. All told, we tend to put in 45-60 hours per week, and with commutes, 10-12 hr. Days are normal. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 07:59 PM |
| -17 | Are women taking over all the jobs?Wow, where are you? I have a business degree and most PMs in the fields I’ve worked in were men. It was the Business Analysts that were women, basically did the same job for less money. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 07:54 PM |
| -1 | Are women taking over all the jobs?I work in a dealership and it’s almost all men. When I worked in software, also almost all men. Engineering and restaurant (back of house), also almost all men. 🤷♀️ | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 07:45 PM |
| 1 | I was almost gonna kms because of this.You’re in a dark place- you alright? | /r/MensRights | 28/01/24 04:31 AM |
| -2 | Women hate "toxic" masculinity, but when a man doesn't act tradionally masculine, they call him gay.One problem with this type of over generalized thinking is that it isn’t true. I don’t know any women that call men gay for acting or not acting a certain way. That feels like a disingenuous sophomoric projection that does nothing but bait animosity between the sexes. How does this help Men’s Rights? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/24 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are now video recording their male partner's cleaning up skills, as a test and critiquing it on Tik Tok. Imagine what would happen if men tested their wives and girlfriends cleaning skill and critiquing it online?Sounds like a fantastic social experiment! Do it! Be sure to cross-link to their channel too. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?What?! No, if he wants to buy something, he buys it. He doesn’t have to “earn” anything. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Why are only men called out for spending money on themselves and never women?Get out of here with your reasoning! 🤣 | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Why are only men called out for spending money on themselves and never women?Where on earth do you find these caricatures? I seriously don’t know anyone in real life that behaves that way. I’m sure I can find someone online who would say/do such things- but why listen to a crackpot? That isn’t the norm. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Yeah, I have been abused and stalked. Some people are scary. I said cooperative, not willing to create a life together. Those are different to me. I also said “mothered” not “pampered.” Those things are also different to me. Edit for an example: Pampered- every morning I make his coffee just how he likes it. I bring it to him in bed. Then I sit beside him and ask if he has any plans for the day and if there’s anything I can help him with while I massage his hands or his neck. Mothered- I do not … | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I mean, I don’t equate self-worth to a paycheck like I have seen others do. I am glad we can live comfortably and both do what we love. There is an incomparable joy that fills my heart when I see him deeply invested in his passions- there is no amount of money he could make that could take the place of that. It puts a sparkle in his eye, and gives him an incredible and contagious creative energy that makes everything seem so much more colorful and worthwhile. I don’t know what else in life there… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Yep. 😊 | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Thank you for putting this out there and sharing your experience! Yes, I am frequently downvoted in this sub. There is some darkness in here that revels in commiseration and would prefer to watch the world burn rather than look inwards and take personal responsibility. That’s triggering for some. But the downvotes are a reflection of this community’s viewpoint, each downvote is a reflection of the person who chose to interact that way- not a reflection of the value of mine. I do believe it is a … | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.I’m so happy for you! Believe me, having a big D ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Same with a bank account, looks, height, or really any other superficial thing - those really aren’t what matter when it comes to a fulfilling relationship. Personally, I think the most attractive trait a man can have is intrinsic motivation. We can either sit around complaining about things we can’t change (whether it’s immutable like height, or someone else’s preference), or we can get down to the business of cul… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.🤣 No. I’m a professional bringing in 6 figures (sometimes working 50-60 hrs) and he’s an artist. I out earn him by far- and I don’t ask him to do more than I do around the house. Our method is this: if we feel something needs done, we take care of it. If we don’t have the bandwidth, we ask for help. If the other can’t help, we work on a solution that works for both of us. Past 2 were a pilot and an engineer, but both very controlling and preferred a dependent housewife rather than a professional… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 07:16 PM |
| -1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Not at all. Some were abusive, yes. Others weren’t interested in cooperation as much as me filling a role they already had defined in their life (sometimes as a mother). I’ve been rejected a lot too- the process does go both ways. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I’m a six-figure earner. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 04:48 PM |
| 0 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.To a large degree, experience. I don’t know a single woman holding out for some “dream man.” Obviously I don’t know all women, or even that many compared to how many there are, but NONE of the women I personally know do this. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 04:48 PM |
| -1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Well let me clarify- waiting to encounter. I don’t mean sitting around hoping Prince Charming is going to swing by and rescue me or something, that’s silly. And when I put myself on the dating scene, I am absolutely inundated with requests from men. I don’t have an ability to process every one, and I am sure that most men are fantastic people who will make great partners for someone. I still can’t select each and every one. My strategy is that I don’t date anyone who approaches me at all. I’m po… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 12:09 PM |
| 3 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.Sure, we learn to pick up early on behavior that points to potential abusiveness, those men don’t typically make it that far. Some indicators being possessiveness, negativity, sense of entitlement, pattern of blame and self-pity, these are all very unattractive things in women too. Sometimes those things aren’t noticeable until a relationship has progressed pretty far though. Yes, we choose our partners, but we don’t choose their behavior or outlook on life. There are a lot of negative people ou… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 12:01 PM |
| -1 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.I have never dated anyone over 6ft. Tallest was 5’10”, shortest 5’6”. Nor was my “dream partner” over 6ft. It kind of feels like that’s used as a cop-out a lot. Besides, if someone doesn’t date you because your height is more important to them than literally any personality trait…. Trust me, they’re doing you a favor. Sometimes trash takes itself out they say! 😂 | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 11:48 AM |
| -39 | Article saying “can we talk about woman’s lonliness crisis for a moment. This is laughable.A lot of us are just waiting for someone who won’t abuse us and actually cooperate to create a life together without having to mother them. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/24 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else sick of men being ignored when talking about hostages being held by Hamas?I agree- I am seeing a lot of “me first” over objective arguments for “men first.” | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 09:31 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else sick of men being ignored when talking about hostages being held by Hamas?Sorry you’re getting downvoted. Bitter people who like to be victims and justify their poor behavior with poor behavior of others don’t much like it and lash out when their feelings aren’t validated. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else sick of men being ignored when talking about hostages being held by Hamas?Women didn’t come up with that either. Just saying - it isn’t like it was our idea. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?And chimerism. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 05:00 PM |
| 6 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?Unless you’re not hiding anything and had a child with a chimera | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 04:52 PM |
| 4 | Should paternity tests be mandatory?That is how it works as far as I know… | /r/MensRights | 13/01/24 04:49 PM |
| 2 | What would your response to this post be?“Should be able to?” Wouldn’t say that. I don’t think anyone should be assholes to others, but sometimes they are. That stuff you’re talking about- I am sorry your friends went through that. Those things aren’t acceptable no matter who does them. I am not a fan of the rhetoric that says “why is it okay for women to act this way…” I’m a firm believer in respecting others regardless of sex or race or any other thing that makes us unique. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 09:00 PM |
| 2 | What would your response to this post be?I think that’s a people dilemma. People are not completely predictable, and life is full of the unknown. We want closeness with others which makes us vulnerable. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 08:55 PM |
| 5 | What would your response to this post be?I told him not to touch me and that I didn’t need his help. I don’t want to be harsh to people- me being uncomfortable doesn’t automatically mean the other person was being inappropriate. I’m not going to threaten to press charges for someone not breaking the law. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 08:53 PM |
| 0 | What would your response to this post be?Nah…. Men have the well-known hot/crazy scale! 😂 All kidding aside… I think it goes both ways. Women are characterized as “nice girls” and certainly get a good measure of flak for how they handle this difficult situation of sorting the wheat from the chaff as it were. Women don’t get the luxury of doing so without criticism either. I think it’s a risk both ways. And there are plenty of men who refuse to be alone with a woman, or always keep a door open. It’s because of the crazy ladies that woul… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 01:27 PM |
| 4 | What would your response to this post be?Most men are not. The difficult thing for women is to know which ones are. I have had an employee from Lowe’s touch me and proceed to follow me around the store, putting things in my cart even though I was clear I wasn’t interested in his help. I went to the customer service counter and their response was, “oh him? Yeah we’ll have a manager talk to him again.” On the way out we saw the manager next to the guy, waiting politely to speak with him after he finished his conversation with another you… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 12:11 PM |
| -1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?That’s probably because I’m making a point, not trying to get one. 😂 It does matter what I think, and it matters what you think, because these are the things that are going to make a difference in our lives. If the market doesn’t value your feelings, why be a part of it? Go your own way, make your own life. You don’t have to let the market dictate your life, and there are plenty of other people who don’t play those games as well. But some people won’t do that because they don’t believe their tho… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?That’s a great example. We are genetically wired to want sugar, salt and fat. We are also cognitive creatures that can recognize that if that’s all we seek out in our diet we will become incredibly unhealthy. We also have the ability to evaluate our choices, decide, and develop discipline to build our lives in a way that is best for us overtime without breaking down over the fact that every meal can’t be sugar, salt and fat. Interesting that you say “has never been pregnant” as a good thing in r… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 10:39 AM |
| 0 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?Well hello fellow aspie! I, too, am on the spectrum. Many of the things you describe seem very similar to my experience as a woman- except from the other side of the coin it’s typically blamed on “the patriarchy.” I suspect that it’s a pretty universal experience of growing up to contend with finding one’s place in society as one finds themselves. Along the way we find all kinds of unexpected dangers that we haven’t been well prepared for at all. It also occurs to me that there is a sub-section … | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 01:28 AM |
| -3 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?What’s happening to men that they are increasingly becoming so far out of the norm that they are being excluded from participating in normal social activities? Are they being excluded from this specific group of hyper-narcissistic people? Are they self-isolating out of fear of rejection? There are so many social groups available right now… are they not making friends at work, through hobbies, or community events? I sincerely suggest not going to places that tell you you’re worthless and unwanted… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 12:44 AM |
| -6 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?Her husband did marry her, perhaps that’s the kind of relationship he wants too? Relationships have many shapes, and some people want that very traditional flavor. | /r/MensRights | 08/01/24 12:22 AM |
| 0 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?If someone was superficial enough to not want to be around me because I’m not hot enough for a modern photo-driven dating scene, I would say that our values are no where near in alignment, that isn’t the kind of person I could ever have a fulfilling relationship with, and it’s doing me a favor that they will just go away. I certainly wouldn’t pursue anyone like that, not beat myself up about it, and go look for people I connect with that make me feel uplifted and whose company is mutually enjoye… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 11:43 PM |
| -5 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I know a lot of $250k houses that are much better than $500k ones. The price-tag doesn’t indicate anything about its qualitative value in relation to your own personal wants and desires, unless telling other people you have a house that cost $500k makes you feel more important than living in a house that costs $250k. It’s a fallacy to think that these sorts of things translate into what will make someone deeply fulfilled. Why do you think a $500k home is any better than a $250k home? Back to the… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I am very concerned with men’s rights, which is why I’m putting out an alternative. I absolutely acknowledge that hypergamy is a fact. I can see how discrimination in education would affect that for those who value such things primarily in who they select as a partner. It isn’t the only approach though. One example is musicians. Education is not an enormous factor in this form of mastery, yet some people looooove themselves a good musician. Creative thinking, perseverance, and problem-solving ar… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 11:17 PM |
| 0 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?Well I didn’t say people can just ignore it and not let it affect them, I can understand why you think that is flawed. I said there’s an alternative. It seems as though you are trying to make an argument from within itself like defining a word using the word itself. Not all of society is hypegamous. It is as long as it’s framed as “dating up or down.” That frame isn’t exactly helpful, and seems to cause a lot of people stress without ending up in fulfilling relationships. It’s the idea of trying… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 11:04 PM |
| -5 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I’m not disagreeing. I’m only providing an alternative perspective that can help get people out of the hypergamy paradigm. For those who want to stay in it despite the obvious frustration it causes them…. To each their own. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 08:23 PM |
| -1 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?I just said I don’t like it and why. Maybe there are people who date that way, but not everyone. Hypergamy only affects those who play by those rules. Education and earnings are only “up” if those are your highest values in a partner. And if you share those particular values with a lot of people, there’s mad competition. I chose orientation towards truth and goodness, as well as communication as my most important values. My husband is absolutely incredible and fully gets all of my love, respect,… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 08:11 PM |
| 14 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?Personally I never liked the whole binary of “up” or “down,” especially when it comes to people. I mean better than me or worse than me in what regard? If you mean socioeconomic class, I just fundamentally reject that it’s the most important thing about a person, or even a helpful way to categorize people. It feels unhealthy to start a relationship on the grounds that one is better than the other. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and it’s personally important to me to know myself well e… | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 07:28 PM |
| 0 | Have you noticed the extreme hostility and intolerance toward men expressing their frustration with how insanely difficult dating has become?Kind of makes it seem as though finding a woman isn’t that hard, it’s finding the one you want…. It’s always more difficult to find something in proportion to how strict our standards are. I feel like that goes both ways. When our criteria narrow it down to 1%, we have to go on 100 dates on average just to find the 1. | /r/MensRights | 07/01/24 07:16 PM |
| -10 | Almost didn’t believe this when I found it on the shelfYou guys know this is tongue-in-cheek right? Some good ol’fashioned satire? | /r/MensRights | 31/12/23 02:10 PM |
| -5 | Paternity Tests, why is it so taboo?From a loyal woman’s perspective, if I were ever asked for a paternity test, it would completely destroy the relationship. Because it would show that he didn’t trust me, and I can’t build a relationship on that level of doubt. I believe when a woman realizes she’s pregnant, the man should decide whether or not to take that responsibility. To sign the birth certificate accepting responsibility. If they split later, and custody/child support is involved, then a paternity test should come into play… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/23 01:47 AM |
| -1 | Really struggling with all the man hating in society lately. Literally cant turn on news, watch tv, listen to radio, see a film, read a book or go online without seeing "ALL MEN TO BLAME FOR "X""There is a phenomenon where when we hyper-focus on something, we begin to see it everywhere. It’s like how when you buy a new car, you suddenly start noticing them all over the place. This could be what you are experiencing. Instead of just ignoring it or avoiding it, you might try finding interest in another topic that you find more uplifting and enjoyable. Then you’ll start to notice that more and the other will fade away. I have used this technique a few times when I have caught myself up in … | /r/MensRights | 21/12/22 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Women - The Longer They Are Single, The Less Relationship Ready They Become?He’s an actor, he loves attention. There’s no amount of “trying” I can do that would take that away from him. What a silly thing to say. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/22 04:16 AM |
| 2 | Women - The Longer They Are Single, The Less Relationship Ready They Become?In a lot of fields women tend to go into nowadays, social media following is important. I can’t tell you how many things I have been turned down for because I don’t have one. It can understandably be threatening when she seems to have so many options available to her at all times. My husband is an actor and relies on this as well. There are a ton of women out there that would love the chance to be with him. For his career, he has to balance this gracefully, and I understand that requiring him to… | /r/MensRights | 14/12/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Called Misogynistic For Asking My Sister Not To Date My FriendsAsk your mates not to date your sister? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/22 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Law schools are majority-female, so where are all the female lawyers?Very well articulated. I am mostly talking about households where both are motivated working professionals- and you nailed it. Women are celebrated for foregoing their career for attending to the home and family while men are punished for it, at least socially. I think practically, women are punished as well career wise, just like men. And it’s a function of what it takes to be extremely successful. Anyone who splits their time between career and family will have a difficult time competing in th… | /r/MensRights | 05/12/22 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Law schools are majority-female, so where are all the female lawyers?Absolutely. And after 9-12 months of caring for the child while your partner works, there is momentum in the dynamic that carries forward for years. And it goes both ways- staying home to parent negatively impacts one’s ability to stay relevant in the team dynamic, as well as projects and skill sets. If a team or project shifts while on maternity leave, the same role may not be available and even if the company finds a role as required, the mother essentially has to start over building team resp… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/22 03:18 PM |
| -5 | Law schools are majority-female, so where are all the female lawyers?Fun fact: it’s is not always known how a partner will act when they become a parent, despite what they say. The added pressure has an amazing capacity to cause a reversion to historical gender role programming. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/22 03:13 PM |
| -6 | Law schools are majority-female, so where are all the female lawyers?Having been in the situation, it doesn’t feel like much of a choice when the other parent simply doesn’t feel like childcare is their responsibility and therefore doesn’t move to meet the needs of the children. What should the woman do? Neglect childcare to the same level? Is that really a “choice?” Or justifiable to place blame on the woman for choosing not to neglect their children over their job as many men tend to do? The fact is that many women are left to do the things that men simply choo… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/22 12:26 PM |
| -1 | When you come to the realization of the cost it is to be a man..I suppose if you vote you have a choice. There are a lot of laws that came from before women voted. It isn’t as if women are responsible for the draft’s creation, and certainly only now, at most, equally responsible for its persistence, though I think an argument can be made that federal laws like the draft are only voted for by representatives, and that’s definitely not half women. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/22 02:50 AM |
| -1 | Feminism ruined my relationshipThat sounds like bigotry, not feminism. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/22 01:34 PM |
| 0 | When you come to the realization of the cost it is to be a man..I think it’s a little different. I mean women didn’t create the draft and subjugate men to it. And holy hell, women suffer when men they care about are drafted! I grant you, not in the same way, but they do suffer for it. So why do men tolerate the draft? | /r/MensRights | 30/11/22 01:31 PM |
| -1 | When you come to the realization of the cost it is to be a man..Shouldn’t everyone be able to vote without being required to die in war? That’s not a bad deal for the men. | /r/MensRights | 29/11/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | the abuse of men going on right now is really affecting my mental healthI was just thinking about this concept today. It’s such a better use of our time and energy to focus on the good things and relationships in our lives and build on those rather than setting out to “fix” everything we see wrong with the world. There will never be an end to what is wrong as long as we are approaching life from a perspective that is looking for it. But we can search out those things and relationships which build us up, and cultivate a life full of goodness. Part of this is having s… | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 11:02 PM |
| 1 | the abuse of men going on right now is really affecting my mental healthYes, it is true that bullies will zero in on easy targets. Our own energy and self-respect (or rather lack of it) can attract this type of behavior from others. Not that it justifies anything, but we can change how we view ourselves. When we become strong and respect ourselves, we begin to attract that into our lives as well. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | the abuse of men going on right now is really affecting my mental healthPlease take of yourself and protect your space especially if you are sensitive to these things. It isn’t okay for them to do that, but we do have the power to decide what company we keep. Maybe going to those places isn’t good for you. No one has to tolerate other people’s disrespect, and we can’t change other people. There will probably always be insensitive jerks out there, but at least we can walk in the other direction when we see them coming! | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about Boys.You must not have read my comment. That’s okay, I’ll wait. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about Boys.I am sorry you are so intimidated. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about Boys.And what is this anyway? Do you typically use coercion in discussion? It’s Reddit. People are going to respond however they want. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about Boys.“Nobody” is vague and untrue. I already pointed out that mothers care about their sons. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:13 PM |
| 0 | Nobody cares about Boys.It isn’t “whataboutism” it’s a deeper issue. When it is forced into a gendered (or racial perspective), it tends to divide people instead of solve the problem. I am not saying there isn’t a problem, it just can’t be wholly solved at that level. We can segment society and look at partial sets of symptoms, but this makes it very difficult if not impossible to diagnose and treat a holistic or systemic issue. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Nobody cares about Boys.It is true that men suffer, but that doesn’t mean “nobody cares.” I think that is an unhelpful stance that is vague and untrue. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:04 PM |
| -2 | Nobody cares about Boys.I say precisely what I mean to and you can think whatever you want. Your intellectual bullying won’t work on me. I agree with your point, and stating it clearly is more helpful to the situation than using an untrue hyperbole (which is my point). | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 08:02 PM |
| -2 | Nobody cares about Boys.Of course they are. I was illustrating something simple. To say “Nobody cares” is very woe-is-me and not true. This undermines men’s rights and obfuscates problems that can actually be addressed. That stuff happens to women too. I can’t tell you how much I was brushed off and put second because I wasn’t my older brother who was favored for everything. That stuff happens. - We have all been treated poorly in our childhood, even by well-meaning family members. Then we have savage experiences with … | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 01:56 PM |
| -25 | Nobody cares about Boys.It isn’t true that Nobody cares about boys. There are a lot of people who care about their sons, but those stories never make headlines. “Devoted family raises fine young men to take their place in society” It’s just not as click worthy as “Man/boy does something horrific.” | /r/MensRights | 27/11/22 02:13 AM |
| 3 | Gender Issues are Thoroughly FuckedMe too, for posting horrible jokes my dad used to tell as a demonstration of misogyny. Not because my dad was very misogynistic, but because they push the issue of the truth behind misogyny and force people to confront that reality that those viewpoints exist with humor. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/22 11:19 PM |
| 31 | Do Women Hate Being Women?“Female” is the appropriate term in the military. 🤷♀️ | /r/MensRights | 24/11/22 02:38 PM |
| 0 | Is anybody on here a father to a daughter? What is your take on this community?It’s almost as if we rely on each other! | /r/MensRights | 22/11/22 01:24 PM |
| 4 | Is anybody on here a father to a daughter? What is your take on this community?I look forward to the day when we realize that mens issues are women’s issues as well as the other way around. We are interdependent on one another, and segregating issues in order to solve them will only ever be partial and tend to divide us. Both men and women need the other to be as healthy and successful as they can be. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/22 01:21 PM |
| 7 | Is anybody on here a father to a daughter? What is your take on this community?As a woman, my sense as to why women might be unhappy is because instead of a change in expectations from society- having a career rather than being the family caregiver - we just received all of the expectations. At least it feels that way. We are expected to have a high-performing career and still be the primary family caregiver. It’s exhausting. While we find women have more liberty to choose for themselves, society has been slow to respond with respect and support for our choices. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/22 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is it constantly asserted that all women have to be constantly in “fear for their lives” of being assaulted, raped or killed by men despite most men being harmless?And unfortunately it’s really difficult to tell which men will take advantage of you and which won’t sometimes. Although most men are not like that, one bad man who gains your trust and hurts you can cause serious damage, especially if you happen to be disproportionately weaker and smaller. Oftentimes you don’t find out until it’s too late. People are different in different circumstances, and can even change throughout long-term relationships. This is how people end up and sometimes stay in rela… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/22 06:30 PM |
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