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| -1 | A little bit of performative masculinity, including "locker room talk" is positive and healthy for most malesThe longest lasting discussion I've seen around locker room talk was after Trump saying grabbing women by the pussy was locker room talk. Would you say that was healthy locker room talk? Here's the transcript if you need a refresher - https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321 | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 04:34 PM |
| 2 | A little bit of performative masculinity, including "locker room talk" is positive and healthy for most malesCurious what your definition of masculinity is | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 04:27 PM |
| -7 | Don’t like where the economy is going? Blame women. Women now run the US economy.Socialists have also described women as second class and oppressed by the bourgeois. Marketing has been geared towards women because they were pushed out of labor roles and meant to stay home to take care of the house. The expectation for millenia has been that women go to the market and spend money that's been earned. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 04:12 PM |
| -10 | Don’t like where the economy is going? Blame women. Women now run the US economy.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/39158677 | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 04:06 PM |
| -22 | Don’t like where the economy is going? Blame women. Women now run the US economy."a new $2.3 trillion spending plan introduced by Biden last week includes $400 billion to fund the “care economy,” supporting home- and community-based jobs taking care of kids and seniors, work normally done by women that has mostly gone unacknowledged in years past. The plan also has hundreds of billions of dollars more to fix racial and rural-urban inequalities that were created in part by past economic, trade and labor policies." | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 04:01 PM |
| -4 | "Incel" should not be used as a pejorative to bring men downAgreed. People who choose not to have sex are called celibate. I definitely see incel used as a pejorative in a wide range of cases, but at its root it's meant to cast light on men who believed their owed sex they're unable to attain. When in reality its also a choice. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/21 03:53 PM |
| 4 | Any counter-arguments for the not a real feminist arguments?An option besides the no true scotsman is to avoid universal generalization. Instead of, "Feminists hate men" argue that it's common to see feminist women say "kill all men" Or "men are trash" at rallies and no one argues against those attitudes. Getting specific about what you see as troubling forces people to engage with either your argument or their thoughts. That's how you start changing minds. If your goal is to simply win a debate/argument you might as well not engage at all. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 05:50 PM |
| 7 | Any counter-arguments for the not a real feminist arguments?Here it is - https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/695m34/karen_straughans_response_to_those_arent_real/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 05:38 PM |
| 3 | This is from Female Dating Strategy. All the time I see things about how I'm part of the problem and im not a good person because I'm a boy. I'm only 14 and I'm already not sure whether or not it's worth to go outside anymore or even interact with people because of what I see everywhere.Exactly this. Everyone shits on FDS for a reason. They are not to be listened to. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Article gives more prominence to handful of women who got killed. But 90% of the 1,900 dead were men/boys-not mentioned until near end. Society is institutionally Misandrist; deliberately blind to male suffering, but over alert to female suffering. This is not equality.Man, you've got it bad. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 12:22 AM |
| 6 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?What?! That's wild. Do you have any posts you can share on that. I want to hear their arguments. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/21 12:17 AM |
| 7 | Look at the commentsDisgusting responses | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 10:33 PM |
| 6 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.So we're agreed then. It's just that you're in Canada and I'm in the US so our stats are different. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 10:06 PM |
| -6 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.Where did I bring COVID into this? The teacher shortage has been going on for almost the past decade. Here's the economic policy institute covering it in 2019 - https://www.epi.org/publication/the-teacher-shortage-is-real-large-and-growing-and-worse-than-we-thought-the-first-report-in-the-perfect-storm-in-the-teacher-labor-market-series/ - well before COVID. No goal posts moved, just knowledge and research bucko. You're right, there has been discrimination in teaching. Women were pushed into it … | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:49 PM |
| -4 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Just keep stretching those goal posts brother. As I've said multiple times, the base study is real and accurate. It's the interpretations that are incorrect which is exactly how this post is presented and it's still there for us to review. I have no idea their stance on alcoholics anonymous or American airlines. As for what I'm talking about, it's kill-all-men types and TERFs. I would be hard pressed to believe the majority of feminists don't believe in gender norming. Can you add some color to … | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:45 PM |
| -1 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.The only statement to interact with is OP's statement. The national stats are what they are, it's not like your kids schools change anything about that. Also, you're not really making a point here. Your kids have generally female educators. As do the majority of students in this nation. That's a fact. What do you want me to do with that information? In my first response, I'm talking to OP about his accusation that children are being led to believe men should be subservient because of the demogra… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:34 PM |
| -3 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.Well, from OPs perspective it would be your kids perspective, not yours. So does your child think the janitor is a miserable piece of shit and all men should be bottom tier service workers? Thank you for acknowledging your small sample. I have no idea what that has to do with wokeness though. Are there more female teachers as well? That would denote hiring up the ladder and explain why there are less male principals. Regardless, here are the national stats for superintendents - https://www.aasa.… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:36 PM |
| 2 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?That's fair, but I encourage everyone to channel their limited patience into thoughtful discussion just like you did with me. Goes so fuck far imo. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:30 PM |
| -13 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?The fuck? You did. Read your response to me lol. Olympia rocks. Evergreen is on a decline for a reason. Alright, let me do some research. Here's one and this is exactly how I suggest folks address it - https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/6r6xmq/wage_gap_discussion_gone_awry/ - acknowledge the research, push against the interpretation. That's actually pretty funny on the cancer front. But the majority of feminists I interact with do not like or support radical feminists and their ideologies… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:25 PM |
| -3 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.What the actual fuck are you talking about? Every school district in this nation is starved for teachers. I guarantee any male with even the poorest of qualifications could get a job as a teacher right now. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:19 PM |
| 4 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Let it come down to simple ignorance and you'll be a lot happier. I once had to teach a 27-year old how to open a bank account and that banks won't steal all your money. Some folks hear/learn something and don't truly challenge it. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:17 PM |
| -23 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Who prohibited them? Is not like there's some punch card org they all belong to. I disagree with feminists on this all the fucking time. I grew up in Olympia, WA. Home of evergreen college, famous for the Weinstein scandal. It's so fucking easy to talk to the wage gap if you present a coherent argument because the base of the research is accurate. It's the interpretations that are wildly off base. Next time you get into an argument about the wage gap you have to acknowledge the research and dest… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Reverse Engineer Success as MenYea, I hear you on that. It's difficult to separate masculinity from man. Absolutely, my friends dog of 11 years just passed yesterday. My friend group all knew that dog from a puppy and all we said was, "everyone take a drink for the pup tonight". Have to reinforce that stuff upper lip. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 05:01 PM |
| 2 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?I'm not OP, was just trying to find some sources for them. I know folks can be quick to write without engaging, so wanted to see if there was a discussion to be had here... Not so much | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:59 PM |
| 6 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Yea, I tried to dig, but couldn't find anything. Sad they thinks this, I hope they're not spreading that too others. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:57 PM |
| -12 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Man, what is the question here? Feminists don't have a canon, like the Bible does. But, most social movements don't. Instead they have a list of figure heads often taught or learned from together. Most of them share general definitions on each wave of feminism and the different subtypes. How does feminism degrade women? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:51 PM |
| 1 | This is my final question for the feminists who lurk here: What gives you the right to define what counts as feminism and misandry when feminism has no canon and why do you support a movement that degrades both sexes into harmful stereotypes, scaremongering one and demonizing the other?Here's a case, not law, in Minnesota - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/rape-victims-designation-drunk-voluntarily-minnesota-supreme-court/ But it doesn't mean someone can't be charged with rape. Just diminishes the charges that can be brought forward. Wonder if that's what she meant? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Article gives more prominence to handful of women who got killed. But 90% of the 1,900 dead were men/boys-not mentioned until near end. Society is institutionally Misandrist; deliberately blind to male suffering, but over alert to female suffering. This is not equality.Kind of contradicting yourself by mentioning the time. Since they put this out at a time when no one would read it, but focused on the atrocities women experience, then wouldn't that mean that they want to bury the story about women while still acting as though they said something about it? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:41 PM |
| -2 | Article gives more prominence to handful of women who got killed. But 90% of the 1,900 dead were men/boys-not mentioned until near end. Society is institutionally Misandrist; deliberately blind to male suffering, but over alert to female suffering. This is not equality.Not that I've personally experienced, but I imagine there's a lot more suffering in being raped 15-16 times until your bones break and are then murdered them simply being murdered. So, if you're going for chocks and outrage it makes sense to give that more air time. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:39 PM |
| 11 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.The majority of school superintendents are men. Nearly half of principals are men. Students seen men and women at all levels of power dynamics in schools; coaches, lunch ladies, extra curriculars, janitors, lunch ladies, teachers, girls trips, office staff. You're argument of discrimination is outlandish. Our government allowed colleges to ban women from certain degrees so they defaulted to teaching. Tons of national programs encouraged women to go into teaching because they're more nurturing. I… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:33 PM |
| 9 | The average child attends a school where most Teachers are Women and most Janitors are Men.You do realize how much easier it is to become a janitor than a teacher right? You realize how much more mentally taxing it is to be a teacher? Do you realize janitors in many distracts make great wages and even if they don't start with great wages can earn them through experience? The only person making these dumbass assumptions is you. If you really believed any of this you should be advocating for people to treat janitors as an essential function for schools. Not assuming everyone thinks they… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 04:27 PM |
| 0 | chivalry or universal politeness?I always felt like this one was overblown. I've only had one women in my life get on my case for it and she was pretty radfem at the time. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 02:14 PM |
| 0 | Reverse Engineer Success as MenDon't know why you're getting down voted. Regardless of if you like the first line or not, everything else he's saying is true and aligns with one of the other responses here. This is just more pointed. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Reverse Engineer Success as MenSome of these points; not helping one another, suffering in silence, stereotyping, are what the feminists use to define toxic masculinity... Curious what you would suggest for men looking to act the part | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 02:10 PM |
| 0 | Holy fuck what was up with feminists on this sub?The word you're looking for is radical feminists | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:54 AM |
| 0 | Holy fuck what was up with feminists on this sub?Had to be some evidence for this to be true. Come on man | /r/MensRights | 02/04/21 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Where can we engage feminists?Why and how do you want to engage feminists? Do you want to engage every feminist or is just one enough? You have to understand that the men's rights movement and red pill has been wilfully associated with men who believe women can't function on their on. Why would any feminist want to engage with someone who believes they're incapable of autonomy? | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 11:55 PM |
| 4 | Have you dated a feminist? How was the equality in that relationship?Last girl I dated took forever to let me pay for anything even though she worked in Ed while getting her masters. Like shit I get it, we all want to be independent, but as a partner let me help you out once in awhile haha | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Can we talk about Rape culture victimizing men. From media who writes teachers “have sex” with teen boys to old men cleaned out by young gold diggers in the courts.Exactly, there's probably some good research behind it all. But at face value, it's so stupid. No one should be shamed for getting laid. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 09:26 PM |
| 2 | If feminism was truly about equality, we wouldn't be calling it feminismI mean, it's a massive movement with no head. It's not like a consortium can come together and change the name of their movement. Which is generally why there's a definition of mission to accompany any movement. I agree though , I rarely see feminist focused organizations focusing on men's issues outside of BLM. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 08:01 PM |
| 8 | Can we talk about Rape culture victimizing men. From media who writes teachers “have sex” with teen boys to old men cleaned out by young gold diggers in the courts.Definitely agree that the way media portrays young men being raped by authority figures is abhorrent and reprehensible. However, I don't see how wealthy old dudes acting as sugar daddies comes into play in rape or rape culture. Can you explain the idea here? I would absolutely argue that men are raised to see sex as social currency. If you fuck a lot of women you're a Chad and that's valuable. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | If feminism was truly about equality, we wouldn't be calling it feminismIs your issue due solely to the name? Or do you feel like the feminist movement, regardless of which subset, hasn't done enough to advance men's causes to be called an equality movement? | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Do some men seriously think being feminist will get them laid?I've never spoken to a man who thinks being a feminist will get him laid. But, I absolutely know feminist men who do get laid. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | It's official guys...Assert your dominance over him then. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 07:13 PM |
| 9 | Have you dated a feminist? How was the equality in that relationship?Yup! I've pretty much only lived in WA & CA, in the most liberal areas. The majority of women around consider themselves feminist (typically meaning they're not that feminist) Or they're active in the movement. Relationships felt fairly equal, never seemed like they were dogging on me for being a male. Nor did they expect me to contribute more to the relationship financially even though I earned significantly more. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 06:49 PM |
| 2 | If feminism was truly about equality, we wouldn't be calling it feminismSo, we should change this subs name to human rights? Or do we keep it as men's rights until the feminist change their name? | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 06:38 PM |
| 6 | Domestic violence against men - the husband is expected to forgive and seek reconciliation.This could definitely apply in this case, but this is the country of Malta and I find it unlikely they follow American models of abuse intervention. Thanks for linking this though! It was insightful. More folks should read about the Duluth model. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/21 06:11 PM |
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