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| – | From a woman’s POV the disparity isn’t that “more men get murdered than women,” it’s that more men kill women than women kill men.It can still be both. Men are often violent toward women with sexism as a factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 02:27 PM |
| 4 | Being Yourself is at Least 50% Having a BackboneI've always thought 'be yourself' just obviously meant that you can't fake being something that you're not indefinitely. Like if you're a massive nerd who's into literature and board games, try and work with that - don't pretend that you're a fitness buff who loves hiking. At best you're going to attract the wrong kind of person, and at worst it will just completely backfire and fail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/26 11:21 PM |
| 1 | I've heard people say that men's lack of success on dating apps doesn't occur in real life. I don't believe thatUltimately, there are a bunch of ways you can end up getting an opportunity to interact with people face to face that you'd never get through OLD, dating events, or on a night out. Being forced into contact, like through work, is the stereotypical example. You might be the perfect match for someone but they'll never know. And how could they? Women physically can't give every man who shows interest a chance. So you only give chances to the people who are able to make the best impressions with the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Question for Blue Pill: If kindness is as important when it comes to attraction as the mainstream says, how do you explain all these horrible men having girlfriends?There are definitely trends. People that go through particular kinds of experiences are more likely to act in certain ways, develop given difficulties, and so on. The fact that not everyone ends up the same way doesn't undermine the relationship. People who are abused as kids are more likely to develop CPTSD, enter relationships with abusive partners, abuse drugs or take part in other self destructive behaviours. That's still relevant even if it isn't universal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Men don't have a purity concept of virginity as feminists claim, we've concept of character.Liking someone as a person is not the same thing as desiring someone sexually. That is definitely not true for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/26 09:56 PM |
| 1 | How has the success of the Netflix series "Adolescence" helped men?The national flag generally isn't seen that way. Not in the majority of the UK, anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 06:54 PM |
| 0 | There nothing wrong in a 30 year old man dating a 20 year old girlThere's nothing wrong with it in theory, or anything innately immoral going on. But I'm still gonna hold a negative opinion because, the vast majority of the time, there is a creepy dimension to it. I get why people might be into older partners, but someone attracted to a person that much younger is a red flag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/25 07:24 AM |
| – | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenBoth parents get to choose whether or not they accept the possibility of pregnancy when they have sex. Only women get to choose whether or not they can abort a pregnancy, as the child is growing in their body. It's not 'fair', but it's even less fair any other way around. Women just have an innate advantage in that they get two opportunities to avoid having a child, and men only get one. This is simply because only one parent actually gets pregnant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 03:42 AM |
| – | Most people don’t care about the culture/gender war.Cost doesn't appear to be what's actually driving fertility down. Places have tried making it easier to have kids with various incentives and still don't manage to move the needle much at all. Where people (especially women) are more highly educated and well off, they have fewer kids. At the core of it, I think it's simply that people have more choice and freedom. You don't have to pop out five kids now if you don't want to, so you don't. You could make it as easy as is possible to raise kids an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Why don't feminists just stick to dating male feminists?I've had the opposite experience. The few men I knew who were poly were tall, bearded, sporty, viking looking guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 09:41 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manSome of these things are quite US specific (circumcision, the draft, positive discrimination schemes, etc.), but many of the rest are prevalent across the west. Unfortunately, most of those remaining differences are down to men. Suicide, drug abuse, violence, crime, and education - areas where men have awful outcomes. The state does little to help a lot of the time, or even manages to frustrate things, but the underlying cause does seem to ultimately be innate differences between sexes. Men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 09:02 AM |
| 5 | Men cuck themselves every time they watch pornWhen you watch porn you are watching another guy fuck a girl Not necessarily. That's unnatural when you think about it. Appeal to nature? Poor argument. And men will worry about how many guys a girl fucks because its "gross' yet the majority of men will literally watch other guys fuck girls. Not everyone. Not even most men, really, unless it's an absolutely huge number. So you are sitting there getting cucked... That's not what that word means. ... watching a guy fuck girls that you could never … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 12:10 PM |
| 4 | There's nothing wrong with being a passport bro and the excuses against the practice make no senseWhether it's right or wrong isn't really that important for your 'regular' passport bro. It's more that people are going to have an opinion. If someone is unable to find a partner 'normally' then they will be derided by their peers. Why? Well, while it may be exploitative or predatory, it almost always indicates inadequacy. You're labelled a failure for being unable to do what most everyone else can back home. Even if you justify the decision with the argument that you don't want to deal with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 09:59 AM |
| 1 | What are women even expected to do during the courting phase?My current partner did literally all of those things before I did. I think it's probably more common for men to make many of those steps first, but it's far from universal. More broadly, any social interaction is better when it's reciprocal. It's give and take. If I was making an effort and getting nothing back then I'd just stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 11:47 AM |
| 0 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.I didn't say I saw it that way, but it's interesting you've assumed so. I said that a lot of men do. I'd guess most of them, from experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 06:45 PM |
| 5 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.Exactly. Though, again, I said this: Ostensibly this isn't the case domestically, though in reality money, fame, and influence are often abused by people in the west anyway for leverage. The main point I was making, though, was that most people regardless of gender look down on people taking the 'passport bro' route. Whether you think that's a deserved thing or not I don't know, but I've actually personally known someone who went abroad looking for a partner and he was relentlessly mocked for it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 03:28 PM |
| 3 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.Yes, there is a power dynamic to consider. For example, if you come from the US, the primary advantage you'll have is money. You can out-earn many professionals in poorer countries with a fairly middling job. There are soft cultural advantages as well. If you were fortunate enough to study at Oxbridge, worked for a renowned international company, or even simply speak a desirable language to a competent level then these things can be a huge leg up. But simply being from the west is often an advan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.I'm not sure where you're pulling that from my comment. That isn't what I said or implied, and it certainly isn't what I believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.It certainly isn't the case, but the difference is that there's a power dynamic to consider when you look abroad. Taking advantage of that is almost 'cheating'. Ostensibly this isn't the case domestically, though in reality money, fame, and influence are often abused by people in the west anyway for leverage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 02:14 PM |
| 5 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.It isn't just women thinking that. Most men would look down on 'passport bros'. This is because it doesn't come across as a reasoned decision to escape the domestic dating scene, but rather as proof that these people have 'failed' and can't make it without resorting to... well, this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 01:41 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf you're between 5" and 8" then I think you're pretty much never going to get a complaint. Bigger or smaller and you'll sometimes have problems. But unless you have a micropenis or you require a reel to store your member, I don't think it's the end of the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think you'd spot 4.8 easily. It's far enough below average that it would appear on the smaller side, but it wouldn't look tiny unless it was a pencil dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 04:01 PM |
| 5 | Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner?Creating whole ass people because your parents want you to, whether that's something you desire or not, isn't reasonable at all. You don't owe anything to your parents but kids? That's the thing you owe the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 11:48 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: If you grew up with an active father, why did you need the manosphere? Do you blame your father? How will you raise yours sons differently?I get that having a male role model seems to be important for many people, but it's something I can't relate to personally. My dad left when I was a baby and I had a great childhood. When I was 16 I connected with siblings I didn't know I had, and for whom my father had been around for years. They have many, many more issues than myself as a result of his toxic presence. Drug abuse, time in prison, emotional unavailability. Some of my siblings have ended up falling into the same traps. My mother… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Question for all. How many of you actually discuss in detail what you're looking for from a partner with people you are dating?If someone isn't willing to communicate with you in the way you need, they aren't right for you. That isn't a cop out. It's just true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 08:42 AM |
| 3 | 'You should have total trust in your partner or else you shouldn't be dating' is bad advice and people who recommend this sort of toxic trustworthiness are doing more harm than good.Part of what makes a relationship so valuable is that it gives you space to be vulnerable. That you can invest so much of yourself knowing that your partner could hurt you more than anyone else, but you trust them regardless. The warmth and relief from being able to drop your guard is worth so much to me that I will willingly accept the risk it could all shatter. Because ultimately you will always be accepting some degree of risk. In anything. I get what you mean in that you should be cautious w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/23 08:08 AM |
| 6 | Is sex better when you’re older?I sympathise with anyone who's had that experience, but it's far from an inevitability. The best sex I've ever had is with the person I've been with longest - it's just about finding someone who actually feels the same way as you. It makes it effortless to have fun, frequent sex because you both want it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 08:33 AM |
| 5 | Is sex better when you’re older?I think it's quite obviously being expressed as an opinion. You don't have to feel the same way, but that's how it is for many people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 08:30 AM |
| 5 | This is how women will behave once the fembot girlfriend technology is out.They really don't. It isn't just women who think this is sad, most men will look down on anyone who thinks robot companions are anything other than an escape for pathetic undesirables. Rightly or wrongly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Why are women like this?I could just vaguely gesture at the whole thing. It's all nonsense. The guy is gonna stay salty. The 'problems' he's on about are not general. Those are his own. He can flee the country if he wants or stay angry at women. It won't change a thing. The bad odour isn't following him around coincidentally, rather it's his own scent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 04:43 PM |
| 8 | The double standard explained.That's only true of anything until the perception of others begins to impact you. If people start to shun you for your behaviour, for example, and that matters to you in one way or another. Men can usually shrug off that label easily because barely anyone thinks badly of it to begin with. There is no stigma to shirk. But if a man does get a 'reputation' and lives somewhere small enough for people to take notice, it can materially affect their life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:16 AM |
| -5 | Why are women like this?Nah, the guy's an imbecile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 09:07 AM |
| 1 | It's bad for men's mental health to tell them that women like sex as much as themMen and women have very similar sex drives. It's just what they do with that urge that varies. Imagine a person is going through a dry spell. They're massively sexually frustrated. A man in that situation might be willing to go clubbing and end up going home with someone they're almost physically repulsed by. A woman in that situation will hold out until they find someone they're actually attracted to. Like, have you ever heard girls talk about sex and relationships? They're horny as fuck. The d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:44 AM |
| 1 | It's bad for men's mental health to tell them that women like sex as much as themI still don't get how they think it's that hard. I'm autistic and, while I'm not the most sexually successful, it's only felt like a mild handicap. Not a death sentence. Everyone I know who's autistic has still managed to settle down with someone they love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.Birth rate is still slowing in them. As they develop the expectation is that their fertility will drop lower as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.Oh, that seems quite America centric do I don't really know - but that's certainly not the way things appear to be going the other side of the pond. But ultimately I don't think it really matters. Women, regardless of their politics, are having fewer kids. You'd have to make it so that women worked less and didn't have other opportunities for that to change. I don't see that happening. Dual income is too necessary for a start, but even very conservative women can be highly career focused these d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 01:13 PM |
| 3 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.It might sound sensible but that's not really what appears to be happening. You can try and raise kids however you want but the culture and environment that people grow up in makes a huge difference regardless. And if (women especially) have other options open to them, they appear to have fewer or no kids and any kids they do have come later on average. Essentially freedom, however it's gained, leads to lower fertility. That impacts people to a certain extent regardless of their upbringing. Even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 01:00 PM |
| 5 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.It's not as though that attitude is passed on directly from parent to child, though. The overall trend is toward lower fertility. That's broadly true whether you grew up with conservative families or not. It happens in 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants. It happens whenever people have options other than having big families. It's a result of the environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:46 AM |
| 3 | Modern society kinda shows why virtually all historical civilizations were Patriarchal.All societies are heading that way, though. We're all going to run into the same demographic issues eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | The importance of eye contact in dating and relationships.....It made my eyes water even reading that. I make eye contact but I don't hardly ever hold it. Outside of an intimate, romantic situation anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps have caused the destruction of actual, meaningful loveThat's how everyone tends to communicate. It's standard human behaviour. It doesn't start or end with signaling potential partners - it's something that runs through all of human social interaction. Truth is that these signals aren't all that ambiguous to those who aren't on the spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 03:18 PM |
| 5 | Should anything be done about the low birth rates and high single parenthood in western countries?There is a imperative for humans to continue to reproduce Is there? Where's the logic in that? Now, I'd agree that a 'traditional' society where women were oppressed could be great for birth rates, but that isn't the sole metric you judge things on. It's very effective in that sense. That doesn't make it good, better, or moral. It's not a value judgement. If people, given the freedom and the choice, don't want to have kids then they just don't have to. There is no obligation for them to do so, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 03:46 PM |
| 7 | Should anything be done about the low birth rates and high single parenthood in western countries?life isn’t about being fair but doing what needs to be done. And who gets to decide what needs to be done? There isn't a moral imperative for humans to continue to reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Should anything be done about the low birth rates and high single parenthood in western countries?That's an oft given reason but birth rates have fallen in European countries even when support is given, and without there being a huge difference compared to countries with less support. If people do have kids they have them later and they have fewer. I think that, ultimately, people don't feel the need and so no amount of support will 'fix' the problem. We don't need to breed so that we can send kids down the mines, and we don't need backups in case our first one dies as an infant. People have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 03:31 PM |
| 3 | How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue?But, the argument is that in order to be a well rounded, mentally healthy person, people generally need friends, socializing, intimacy, etc. Yeah, but I don't think anyone needs sex for that. It is a desire, yes, but you can be a well round and mentally healthy person without sex. If you need sex for that then I think you have a problem already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 01:05 PM |
| 1 | How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue?True, but that isn't what I was getting at. I think you can live a full and happy life without sex. I'm a man, I have a high libido, and I prefer to have sex every day. But that's just a preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 11:30 AM |
| 4 | How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue?You can absolutely live without it. It's not a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 09:32 AM |
| 3 | How are women supposed to solve the sexlessness issue?It is though. It's a good time and can be important for the health of a relationship, but in most long term relationships it's nowhere near the main event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/22 09:32 AM |
| 2 | Why is porn hated by so many women?Probably higher than 90% of most men they're gonna come across tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 05:40 PM |
| 2 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleYeah, good way of putting it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/22 09:34 AM |
| 2 | The Rise of The Single Lonely MaleLuck always comes into it in some way. Yes, working hard and applying yourself prepares you for success, but not everyone can be successful. You can do everything the 'correct' way but just not be in the right place at the right time. Miss an opportunity that sets you back years. We don't live in an actual meritocracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/22 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Sex is not a need, but then birth control, condoms, and contraceptives are also not needs.That's the point, it shouldn't. I disagree, but even if you took that view it's best to be pragmatic. Governments will end up paying, and it's cheaper to combat these things at the source than to deal with their aftermath. Within the current system, it's better for everyone (including you and your wallet) to provide contraception. Short of a revolution that's the best you can get. The lesser of two evils. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Sex is not a need, but then birth control, condoms, and contraceptives are also not needs.It does though cost you though. Your taxes will be used to deal with the fallout. Ultimately, effective government spending costs you less money - or at least makes your tax money go further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Sex is not a need, but then birth control, condoms, and contraceptives are also not needs.If you expect individuals to pay then you have worse outcomes. This is especially true considering that the main reason you give out contraceptives is to protect younger people - and they're exactly the demographic least likely to lack the money and sense. It just makes the most sense for a society to hand out contraceptives for free in the long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Sex is not a need, but then birth control, condoms, and contraceptives are also not needs.It's much easier, cheaper, and more effective to provide contraception than it is to encourage abstinence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/20 05:43 AM |
| 4 | Fellas, Hang it up and delete your online dating profilesWasn't really an insult, but unfortunately having a small penis can definitely be a disadvantage if the woman in question enjoy PIV. The tool is simply not as effective. That's just the unfortunate reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/20 04:47 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Truth? You’re not average.Well, something has changed. Finding out exactly what that is would be the first step to finding a possible solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 10:39 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Truth? You’re not average.I don't need a magic bullet, I'm in a long term loving relationship and I'm incredibly happy for it. What I do recognise is that my relationship is a huge part of my life and happiness. However telling the large number of people out there who are lonely that they aren't entitled to love and relationships is hardly going to help, nor it it particularly profound. It's not exactly new information and it isn't even an argument that your average person is making in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 10:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Truth? You’re not average.men aren't entitled to sex or relationships. No, no-one is entitled to that. But I don't think that's something that anyone is arguing either. However it is a problem when a large number of people are missing out on something that is generally considered to be an important part of life. It's hard to downplay how important sex and relationships are, too. Maybe that isn't the case for some people, but for many (like me) it's almost the entire point of life. Having someone to love and be loved by i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 10:19 PM |
| 11 | Swedish sex survey seems to confirm RP basic conceptsIt happens. When I'm stressed I'm just not interested, and I have to make sure to put in effort for my relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 08:02 PM |
| 9 | Men need to stop seeking validation through sex.It's true. For a great many people mental health is intrinsically tied to sex and intimacy. Just because that might not be the case for you, that doesn't mean it isn't for others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/19 08:03 PM |
| 5 | Are young women doing better these days than young men? Are there more manchildren than womanchildren? What are the implications of this?You're thinking harder about this than feninists have. No one has constructed issues based on an agenda. Definitely not consciously. The simpler explanation is simply that people, rightly or wrongly, believe there are issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/19 09:00 AM |
| 2 | Are young women doing better these days than young men? Are there more manchildren than womanchildren? What are the implications of this?It isn't the best way to learn but it is the easiest way to teach . . . .or most obvious way to teach Personally that's the best way to learn for me. I don't think it's practical to cater education to all kids though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/19 08:55 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Deleting social media is one of the worst TRP adviceIf you're under 30 and without social media presence--you are automatically an untouchable. Couldn't disagree more. I stepped away from most social media when I was still in school and MySpace was where everyone I knew was. Things have only gotten better and easier socially for me since then. More recently a lot of my friends have been leaving Facebook / Twitter / Instagram and are nothing but better for it either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/19 05:21 PM |
| 6 | With so many young celibate men, who are young women having sex with?And it's also about educating young men about the reasons why we have chosen to take the MGTOW route in today's society. I think this is where the disbelief comes from for me. Sure, there will be some people for whom this isn't true, but generally speaking it doesn't seem like people choose that path at all - it's a way of coping, after the fact, with loneliness and rejection. I've known people with no interest in relationships, but they have never been vocal about it unless someone pressed them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/19 03:08 AM |
| 12 | With so many young celibate men, who are young women having sex with?I think it's mostly that there's a difference between incels and the huge number of men that are... almost-incels. Like, the bottom rung of men who haven't taken the blackpill. The phenomenon of discontent and a societal shift towards accepting that many men are ending up lonely is definitely picking up momentum, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/19 10:33 PM |
| 12 | With so many young celibate men, who are young women having sex with?Yeah, I think the whole MGTOW thing is a bit silly. If you really don't care about women / having a partner, then you don't turn it into your identity. That's pretty much the opposite of an IDGAF attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/19 10:29 PM |
| 30 | With so many young celibate men, who are young women having sex with?In fairness, though I agree that MGTOW and Incel communities are more vocal and present these days, it still feels like the phenomenon is kept afloat and relevant primarily by people taking the piss out of them. Subs like Inceltears, and the older Niceguys, are filled with people picking over relatively few posts and laughing at them - and now people are using 'incel' to just mean creepy or misogynistic guys more broadly in completely unrelated places or subs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/19 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever – in real life – witnessed a relationship that was turned into an "open relationship" and worked out for the couple?I have seen it once. The wife was meticulous and kept a colour coded diary to organise her romantic life, and she had around 3-4 boyfriends, some fuckbuddies, a non-sexual bondage partner (she just went and tied him up), and some people she was dating at any given time in addition to her husband. The husband had two partners but he didn't consider them his girlfriends, more friends with benefits that he saw regularly, and he had a lot of one night stands. He also occasionally had sex (mostly for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Has anyone gone from RP to BP, if so why?They basically are just used to mean left or right, and in the US to differentiate between Democrats and Republicans. There might not be a massive difference when it comes to some topics, like the economy, but socially there is quite a divide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 11:23 AM |
| 2 | The average woman is a married mother by age 29. What do you think?People can do what they want, but that seems awfully young to me. Personally I never want children, but you have a lot of life to live unfettered by your spawn during your 30s and even 40s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/19 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Male late bloomers: Do you still feel bitter about your past sometimes?Interesting. There was a fair bit of death in my family when I was younger so, perhaps, that stuff hasn't really had the same impact as I've gotten older. I'm a lot more carefree and less stuck in my ways now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Male late bloomers: Do you still feel bitter about your past sometimes?Sorry I just don't buy that. The only thing that's changed for me is that I'm happier and more sure of myself. What's so special about experiences when you're young? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Male late bloomers: Do you still feel bitter about your past sometimes?I think a large part of that might be more down to lifestyle than age. I have no kids and my partner and I just do whatever we want, when we want outside of the 9-5. I let my hair down and enjoy myself more than I ever did as a teenager - only without the drama and awkward development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Male late bloomers: Do you still feel bitter about your past sometimes?today i would never sleep on the ground with friends at the train station after we were at a concert To be honest I never would have done that anyway. Sounds horrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 11:58 AM |
| 4 | Male late bloomers: Do you still feel bitter about your past sometimes?That might be true for some people, but I enjoy most of those things more now that I'm older. Having more income and more wisdom opens up a lot of doors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Can men or women be happy going a majority of their younger years(18-40) with no sex at all? Why or why not?Yes, but what I mean is that you aren't prepared for sex. Nothing can really prepare you, and I'd argue that's besides the point anyway. Some things you just need to experience to 'get'. Learning how to co-ordinate with your partner so you both get something out of it isn't something you can learn from a book, video, or from talking to others. It's one of those things you just have to do to get better at. And this follows on into more than simply the physical act. Navigating the perils of a rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: might mechanical vibrators/sex toys have had a similar impact on female sexuality as 21st century porn has had on male sexuality (I.e., artifically elevated sexual expectations)?I don't think porn affects as many people's expectations as is often said, but it is a different beast entirely to your contrasting examples. Everyone knows that superheroes are unrealistic. This is not only because they have first hand experience of human limits, but because it is media presented as fiction. People talk openly about it and discuss it. Porn is more grey. If you have little to no sexual experience you have no way of knowing how realistic it is. People might get sex ed, but this d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Can men or women be happy going a majority of their younger years(18-40) with no sex at all? Why or why not?When it comes to relationships, most of your learning is a result of your mistakes. It is very, very rare that someone sticks with their first. Reading or talking about sex and intimacy, for example, does little to prepare you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/19 10:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Only a tiny number of cheaters experience any form of karmic retribution or enduring feelings of guilt.It can be both. Love rarely lasts forever. It might move slower than lust but it can move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/19 01:11 PM |
| 1 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?Bullshit. There's obviously different kinds of feminism and you know it. You're seeing what you want to see if you think everything is coming through identity politics - get out of your bubble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 10:02 AM |
| 0 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?Absolute nonsense. Not only is the majority of media not filtered through feminist opinion in the first place, but you were arguing that radical feminism was 'running shit' in the UK. Categorically false. Even if you take the Guardian, which is definitely left and feminist leaning, the only radfem stuff on there is in the CIF area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/19 07:47 AM |
| 3 | Economist article on lack of sex amongst millennial menMainstream is definitely waking up to certain realities, but one of the reasons it's taken so long, and the the reason why TRP is still so unpalatable, is that the proposed causes and outcomes seem extreme to outside observers. Everyone is starting to agree there is a trend. People disagree on most everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/19 12:38 PM |
| 1 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?Hardly. A few opinion pieces and 'outrage' highlighted in mainstream media doesn't indicate either that these views have majority support or that these views are even common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/19 11:11 AM |
| 1 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?I really don't see how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/19 09:42 AM |
| 1 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?What have they ruined here exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/19 08:33 AM |
| 1 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?Same could be said of almost any political movement. A good example: the UK Conservative party ostensibly supporting gay marriage, or the Labour party with Corbynism or Brexit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/19 08:32 AM |
| 0 | In an attempt to reduce false rape accusations, the UK government now requests alleged rape victims to have data taken from their phones for inspection - victim blaming or a good deterrent?Radfems are hardly worth considering since they're such a small minority. In this case particularly their opinion is almost irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/19 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Do women typically have healthy or unhealthy competitions?I definitely have just as much experience with men being petty-competitive as I do with women. Even really silly stuff, like doing 10 DPS less in a WoW raid, could get someone riled. Petty people are petty regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/19 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you have a certain age by which you want children?That is far from the only reason to have a partner. Life is more fun, more fulfilling, when you have someone to spend it with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 06:04 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Do you have a certain age by which you want children?It genuinely sounds like the stuff of nightmares to me. Snotty kids are by far the worst. Makes me feel physically ill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:48 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: Do you have a certain age by which you want children?Not to me. To me, kids are black holes of happiness and money. They're messy, undisciplined, annoying, and noisy. When I was a child, I hated other children and thought I was a dick myself. I spend my money with my partner traveling, eating out, going to events (gigs, festivals etc.), and on any hobbies we have. You don't have to earn very much to have thousands for leisure if you aren't supporting crotch goblins. And it's not just money - don't have to worry about childcare, if I want to I can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:44 PM |
| 13 | Q4M: Do you have a certain age by which you want children?Never. Kids are a terrible decision. The older I get the more I know I don't want them, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/19 02:38 PM |
| 1 | To Men Who Think Women are "causing the decline", how SHOULD they select for partners?Domestic violence is cited in 25% of divorces, and infidelity in 55%. I really don't think divorce is fucking up a kid's childhood at any rate. I'm much better off with my parents separated. It was the best thing for me when I was a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/19 09:01 AM |
| 0 | To Men Who Think Women are "causing the decline", how SHOULD they select for partners?A lot of the time they are very legitimate reasons, such as infidelity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:17 PM |
| 5 | The contribution of women to the social declineIf the western countries were to go to war, I just can't see modern western women working in factories like Rosie the Riveter, contributing and sacrificing like the women before them. Same goes for people generally, not just women. Most men are wholly unsuited to the military and have no interest in it, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 02:42 PM |
| 3 | Has anyone here completed the no friends -> lots of friends journey?That a a very well put comment. You really drive home why socialisation is important for your mental state. Personally I've always had friends. I wasn't the most social but I was doing decent enough. Unfortunately I also didn't give a fuck about other people when it came down to it. Everything was transactional. I definitely got myself into a mental state similar to how you describe lonely people. Like this: When you spend a lot of time with yourself alone you spend a lot of time thinking things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here completed the no friends -> lots of friends journey?Yes, unfortunately the kind of friends you make by being outgoing and social tend to expect you to continue being outgoing end social. All friendships require effort and compromise, though. They're potentially quite hard work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/19 10:24 AM |
| 3 | Why do women have such a hard time admitting thier advantages over men?I see a lot of sense in this. I think for the most part that those with advantages are unlikely to see them, and the fact that many men these days are aware of their own advantages is a result of a push for awareness over many years by interest groups. Women do not have to question their advantages because by and large people aren't (or haven't) been talking about them. Why would a woman see inequality in the world of dating? Its not malicious it just will seem absurd. That's privilege in the se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 08:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: We are long overdue for cultural shifts that recognize marriage as a long-term, but not lifetime, commitment. Divorce needs to be made more predictable to the individuals, less expensive, and less complicated.You can be the perfect 10/10 dude doing everything right and if she just doesn't feel like it anymore. She can just get up and leave and there is nothing you can do about it. That goes for anyone. Why should you stay in a relationship you don't want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/19 12:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Banning/getting rid of No Fault Divorce would be detrimental to societyMarriage isn't supposed to be about YOU; it's supposed to be about children. We could compromise on allowing no-fault divorces only for childless couples. That's just one interpretation of marriage. A lot of people certainty don't see it that way. Irrelevant. What has suddenly happened with best interests of the child?!!! Not always in the best interests of a child for their parents to be stuck in a marriage they hate, either. I was definitely better off with my parents splitting up, for example… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 02:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you experience "chemistry"?I get the same thing, I think. It's hard to explain but my current girlfriend is nothing like the sort of woman I thought I was attracted to, but she just works for me because she gives me something like those ASMR tingles. It's so hard to replicate because it's not the sounds she makes exactly, or any other physical thing, but she just hones my mind in and almost puts me in a trance where everything she does is magnified and feels pleasurable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/19 10:30 AM |
| 3 | Study Finds Sexlessness is at an All Time High - Here's WhyThere are certainly places where earnings are less now than they were years ago. Especially when considering inflation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/19 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do women feel entitled to being believed?There seems to be a gender disconnect where women feel entitled to being believed or trusted. Not only when it comes to paternity, but also sexual assault cases, "female intuition", ability, etc. I don't really notice a difference other than the female intuition part, but in that case I think it's just a convenient way for women to pretend their gut feeling is in some way enhanced. It isn't, but people peddle this female intuition myth regardless. Want to date a girl? Be prepared to prove you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/19 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Thoughts on cheating?I think a lot of cheating happens just because people find it an easier way out when compared with the alternative; actually identifying, discussing, and addressing issues. If you're in an unhappy marriage there are a lot of pressures to keep you in it. Kids, for starters, but the social pressure from family and friends, and even a vague sense of community or societal pressure. There's the idea that you took a vow and you're supposed to make it work, but it isn't, and that represents how you fai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Do men misinterpret the root of nagging?I think, in a situation where the man and woman don't see eye to eye on something, you have to compromise. That requires a conversation. The woman might take it for granted that a certain level of cleanliness be met and the man might think that time spent cleaning is better spent relaxing. Neither is wrong, they just want different things. You need to compromise. You need to negotiate. However, nagging will not work. It's petty, it's ineffective, and it makes everyone feel worse. Don't do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 11:16 AM |
| 7 | How can I not get negative about women ?I honestly think that's BS. I haven't seen anything at all of that nature for ages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/19 10:38 AM |
| 7 | How can I not get negative about women ?I just am tired of the media telling me as a male...I’m the toxic masculinity person I am, I hold women back, etc. Are you being told that, really? I don't know what media reaches you exactly, but I see almost none of that. You can find a lot of weird, out there opinion pieces if you go looking for them but the mainstream media is typically silent on gender issues, and when stuff is mentioned (such as around International Women's Day) it generally takes a tone of uplifting women instead of blami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/19 10:27 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Asking girls out in real life makes looks matter very little if at least averageIt's like getting the interview. The employer doesn't have a lot to go on with a CV, but if you sit in front of them in an interview you get a better opportunity to state your case. If your CV is bad, and your interview skills are poor, you dont get the job either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/19 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Isn't the welfare state, by punishing virtuous behaviour and rewarding irresponsible behaviour, devaluating many perfectly fine men and women ?The welfare state is neither here nor there, really, when it comes to this. It is completely necessary. This part of your post is really off the mark: While without the welfare state somebody who can't act responsibly might be attractive and funny, he or she will be in fine discarded as nothing can be build with somebody so. By being entitled to other peoples money, these peoples are allowed to build a family at the expense of the taxpayer. This will make them spread their bad genes and cultural… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/19 10:44 AM |
| 3 | What actually makes a woman good at sex?Honestly it is just that. A woman could be amazing technically, have all the moves down and have the stamina to really go at it... but someone just lying there letting me do all the work is better if they're more enthusiastic about it. It's about getting into my head more than anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/19 12:26 PM |
| 1 | One thing posters agreed on in the "sympathy for men" thread is that genetically or socially disadvantaged people are resented by others. Do you think sympathy is largely a myth?I had an online friend who I knew for years. When we met in person (as part of a group) I couldn't even make eye contact with him. He was just that damn ugly. I tried to act normal and friendly with him, I really did, but when every part of you is squirming uncomfortably at the sight of something it shows. I'm a straight male, too, which in my mind makes it worse because looks shouldn't matter. Poor guy couldn't help it but ultimately neither could I. I definitely feel sympathy for him and I kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 08:42 AM |
| 3 | The Atlantic: The Bored SexIn my experience, women's sex drives are more susceptible to stresses and moods. I'm down for whatever, whenever. I could be near incapacitated with pain or sickness and still be ready to fuck. Or emotionally distressed cause a relative just died. It has next to no impact on my sex drive. For the most part the women I know are highly sexual when they're happy and carefree, but they hunker down and go dry as soon as they have any worries or concerns. For example, my girlfriend is ravenous but her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/19 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Different generations a bigger deal than actual age gaps in dating/relationships?My girlfriend was born in 1980 and I was born in 1991. I hardly notice any differences between us except for what children's TV shows she remembers tbh. So I can definitely believe that early 80s folk are millennials personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/19 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do people pretend they don't know why couples don't want to be raising multiple kids?Unfairness doesn't come into it. They don't have to have a reasonable expectation of some other behaviour. It doesn;t even have to affect anyone else at all in any way. But that's a functionally useless way of looking at it. Everyone would be considered selfish because people will always want something from you. Primarily is the key word to me from the definition, and I don't see how it applies. Refusing to do something because other people want you to do it does not on it's own make you primari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Why do people pretend they don't know why couples don't want to be raising multiple kids?I still don't get how it follows that child free people are selfish. It's selfish to want someone else to have kids for your own sake as a grandparent or whatever. You aren't necessarily selfish for refusing to do what other people want from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/19 12:20 AM |
| 1 | I've noticed an increasing trend in the dislike of male feminists...here is my theory as to why this is.You don't have to be anything like a 'nice guy' stereotype to be a male feminist, but I could definitely see that being common. I'd say it's a better idea to form an opinion on people individually instead. Might be too late though cause the stereotype is sticking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/19 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What are your political beliefs and how do they fit or conflict with your pill?Personally I'd love for people to be able to have incredible personal liberties, live in a direct democracy, and feel connected to the happenings of government. I'm a dude who's blue pilled in spirit and I want everyone to just get along nicely. We can all shoulder personal responsibility to make the world a better place. I just don't think it works like that. We're tumbling towards ecological disaster, for example, and no-one does anything. If everyone was sensible and rational, we'd make chang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Why are double standards so readily accepted when it benefits women?I think you're arguing against some very specific people here. Yes, you will find people with those views, but I don't know how prevalent they are. Physical violence, for one, is only part of domestic abuse. Men and women are both equally capable of emotional abuse in a relationship, and both are just as bad. Physical violence can be very different - men are much less likely to be afraid of their partners or feel threatened by them - but it's not a given. The presence of shelters for female abus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:25 PM |
| 2 | What happens to people who don't settle down?Best option is to have a partner but stay childfree, I think. You can still basically do what you want cause you don't have kids taking up your free time or causing logistic hassle, but you're never lonely either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 06:10 PM |
| 4 | What do you think of male feminists? Do you require that label in order for him to be fuckeable, or does it actually hurt his attractiveness?I identify as a feminist and honestly it never comes up. At the end of the day common Feminist values are quite pervasive and normalised now so it's just expected. You can mention most feminist talking points, bar patriarchy, without anyone even making the connection. I so yeah, I think it has no impact for me because it's never come up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 03:19 PM |
| 5 | Is a programming job negative affect SMV?It all depends on how you spin it, who your audience is, and what their expectations are. I don't think there's a catch-all answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Question for Feminists: "I’m A Feminist Who Still Wants Some Chivalry In Her Dating Life" what do you think of this?No, there's nothing wrong with that. She's potentially limiting the pool of partners she can be with, but that's something you accept when you have preferences. It's also not a lack of equality. Relationships come with many compromises on both sides, and just as easily her partner might desire something from her. It's really no different to division of labour in a household; one party might technically do more or less work, but the couple (ideally) agree to the split based on their joint prefere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:17 PM |
| 1 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.I should have phrased this better for clarity: I don't expect everyone to have the same outcomes, but you would expect if there was equality in opportunity that those from different backgrounds would achieve similarly. They don't. The absolute difference between the very top and the very bottom is another issue entirely. There isn't anything implying that someone born into poverty won't ever become rich, or someone born into money or assets isn't going to lose said money or assets. Both of those… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 04:12 PM |
| 5 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.The opportunity is not equal, though. If there was equality of opportunity, you would expect things to be getting closer to equality of outcome - but it isn't. People that have a more privileged start in life are more likely to succeed (in whatever way that is). Being born into money or assets is a headstart others do not get. In the UKk, inheriting a house is likely to make a bigger difference to your lifetime wealth than your career. That isn't fair. Blindly trying to make all outcomes equal i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 01:00 PM |
| 2 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.You can work and think that income inequality is a huge problem. In fact, most people do work. This isn't an issue with laziness, but with fairness, and the current system is very unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Question for Feminists: "I’m A Feminist Who Still Wants Some Chivalry In Her Dating Life" what do you think of this?People search for relationships that match their desires. That doesn't mean they don't appreciate equality or the capacity for it in a wider, less personal context. As in, you can be fully into women's rights, consent, and empowerment but still be a BDSM sub who loves being dominated. You can advocate that women have the choice to be independent and childfree, or the breadwinner in a house, but still desire to be a stay-at-home-mom personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?My girlfriend is 11 years older than me and most of the time it isn't even something we think about. I did have an ex that told me if I was even slightly younger than her she wouldn't have been interested, though. It really depends on the woman. I think it might be slightly similar to the sentiment that the man has to be taller, in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 12:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men aren't out of touch with their emotions; men are simply more emotionally matureNo, people have different ideas of what is or us not important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/19 04:10 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Men aren't out of touch with their emotions; men are simply more emotionally matureIt isn't dumping baggage on other people, it's being mutually supportive. It isn't a negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 02:21 PM |
| 24 | CMV: Men aren't out of touch with their emotions; men are simply more emotionally matureSaying they're more important things is just your opinion. Different people find different things more or less important. I also think men whine and bitch plenty, but perhaps that's just younger people. Men can be very bitchy and manipulative in workplaces too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/19 02:20 PM |
| 3 | What would be the top 5 red pill suggestion be for being successful with women ( attracting them, getting laid, having a good LTR..etc). What would the top 5 blue pill suggestions be, and how do they differ?This one is wierd. People in generally act differently to the people they are attracted to. It's still weird to act nice to someone as a means to an end. Generally when people are acting differently to those they're attracted to that isn't just with the intention of getting some action - those people make you excited, bring you out of yourself, and make you happy. That's why you end up acting different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 10:31 PM |
| 3 | I’m going to destroy the idea that the state of having romantic options is worse or on parity with not having romantic options and file it next to the “nice guys are the real jerks” category of bad-faith bollocks unless someone can convince me otherwise?You haven't destroyed anything except my faith in your ability to create fitting analogies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:43 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TheRedPill only discourages young men from seeking out sex and relationshipsIt only makes life easier in the sense that they don't even have to try with women. It honestly feels like younger men attach to the redpill (or even blackpill) because of this. It just gives an excuse not to bother because they'd 'obviously' fail anyway. It's easier to admit that you never tried because the odds were stacked against you, than it is to try and fail. I would bet this is more common than people coming to the redpill for self improvement or based on their experience in relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/18 04:33 PM |
| 5 | What modern women actually do all lackYeah, people were complaining about the kids back in ancient Greece, it's been going on for all history. Funnily enough the world hasn't ended yet. The kids are alright. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:55 PM |
| 4 | What modern women actually do all lackHave you ever seen a woman born in the last 40 years be humble? Yes. Most of the ones I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 12:54 PM |
| 4 | Are women's standards for men in regards to relationships too high, too low, or just about right?I think far too many men in my age group are basically low-drive individuals with poor domestic skills that are happy to spend most of their time playing videogames. They're generally quite immature, don't want responsibilities, and are like overgrown teenagers. I check a lot of those boxes myself. All of them until fairly recently. What I've noticed in a lot of relationships I've had or that my friends have had, is that the girl ends up basically mothering the dude in no small way. They cook be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Modern Relationships are exhausting because today everything is a negotiation.Rather than it being exhausting, I just think that effort and stress is more equally spread. If it was your role to do something and you had no way of negotiating about it, then you were stuck and frustrated. Now, rather than just one person having to accept things, we meet half way. I don't see how people can find that exhausting unless they are, quite frankly, lazy or unattentive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/18 11:46 AM |
| 2 | DAE think polyamory is kinda bullshit? I feel like a man claiming to be polyamorous would be shamed by most women who believe polyamory is fine for them.Most of the time I think it is imbalanced, or they're generally unhealthy relationships. However, I have known a couple of polyamorous girls who seemed to be doing ok. In one case, she had two boyfriends, and her husband had three girlfriends. There was no crossover, and the husband was the 'main partner'. She had issues finding girls, though, while her husband didn't. In another case, they were a three way couple of two men and one woman, and they were all partners (the men were both bi). They … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/18 10:20 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: What are some examples of bad dating advice given to women?And every girl I know is like that, pretty much :P I have to pretend to my girlfriend that there's much of a difference after her morning makeup routine. Truth is, other than eye makeup and lipstick (which can really stand out), it really doesn't make much of a difference at all. It's subtle. It makes her happy and confident though so I have no complaints. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/18 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men are too desperate and thirsty nowadays? Or has it always been like that?To illustrate, I signed up to Tinder myself and a female friend did the same. After an hour, she had over 100 likes and I had 1. Now, we've been told we're similar in attractiveness and all that, but maybe I'm just ugly - not gonna say there's no chance of that. Enough people have tried the same thing for me to think it's not just that, though - men are just more likely to swipe right. Women are pickier. In fact, for men, the best advice is just to swipe right everything and cast a wide net. Get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/18 03:35 PM |
| 5 | Q4Women: What are some examples of bad dating advice given to women?Most men will have, at some point, seen a woman without makeup to compare though. Every partner I've had I thought looked just fine completely bare. Makeup can be nice, sure, and especially if it's a special occasion, but it does seem really weird to me as an every day thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/18 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Why is male circumcision, not taken as seriously as it should be?Treating circumcision differently to the most equivalent forms of FGM is indeed hypocritical, but it's not 'bad' enough to warrant the upheaval of banning it outright in most places. At least, that's part of the rationale. Outlawing circumcision essentially undermines some major religions with large minorities in the west. Outlawing FGM had relatively little impact because the incidence is much smaller. Most FGM is also absolutely horrific, and so the term has connotations that curcumcision (whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/18 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.Which is far more if a poverty issue than a gendered one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Dave Chappelle accurately describes the experience of being a woman in new Netflix special.Most people work, male or female, so I'm pretty sure this isn't true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/18 11:03 AM |
| 1 | If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men?Healthcare provision is one of the best things for the government to have a stake in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/17 02:24 AM |
| 5 | Pointing out obvious infoIn my experience most everyone can dissociate the two, but I know more men who find it problematic than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?It isn't. There is no just world, only cause and effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?Yes, most of them. Most people aren't very good at hiding their true selves, and if they were so able to pretend to be something other than themselves then they wouldn't be in that position anyway. Rather than just finding out that they're misogynists exactly though they just come across as creepy or entitled. The anger is easier to sniff out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/17 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Placing kids, but especially boys, in team sports is healthy for their social development and will likely benefit them in many facets of life.Probably. I do literally no sports or physical activities now, don't remain contact with anyone I used to play with, and have nothing else to show from it all. So not directly, but it took up time that I could have spent doing something useful. Plus it was just a shitty time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 03:11 PM |
| 3 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?Looks don't matter a whole lot to many people. To a point. Like as long as you meet a baseline everything is fine. People for whom looks don't matter at all are practically non-existent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Women and non-Reds - what do you suggest for the rising epidemic of unattractive men?There isn't an issue. Some men are just undesirable, but the vast majority end up with someone. Same goes for women. The anger and misogyny of the incels, and the desperation and hoplessness of the FAs, keeps them where they are in life regardless of how they got there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 11:06 AM |
| 3 | Placing kids, but especially boys, in team sports is healthy for their social development and will likely benefit them in many facets of life.Most kids that will flourish in those environments will be joining up anyway, but there are definitely kids that need a push. It won't work for the rest of us, though. I was forced into sports as a child and I hated every second; stopped as soon as I was able. I was also made to finish scouts which was horrible. In my case I gained barely anything you say sports are good for. I just kept my head down and desperately wished it was over. For years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Why do men white knight women so hard if they gain nothing from it?No man ever got laid/in a relationship by sucking up to women, buying them stuff and being overly gentle. They definitely have. A lot of people are susceptible to flattery and idolisation. Most well adjusted people will find it creepy but there are plenty of exceptions around for these men to attract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/17 01:02 AM |
| 1 | The OkCupid data does not reflect reality.I don't think you understand what patriarchy means. It's not just called androarchy or something for a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 07:32 PM |
| 0 | The OkCupid data does not reflect reality.Feminism absolutely recognises that many men are in shitty, exploitative situations. It's part of patriarchy for men to suffer under gender roles too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 01:27 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanNah, male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 01:29 PM |
| 1 | What's your opinion on this bluepill-esque "be yourself" advice given in recent an askreddit thread?It's about making the most of what you are. If you try and pretend to be something you aren't then it comes off as fake unless you're an incredible actor; and even then it's hard to keep up indefinitely. People find passion attractive. I remember a time I was seeing a girl and I was cooking for her - she was sat on the kitchen counter talking to me while I was geeking out over how I was preparing a broth. I was animated and she could tell it was something I had passion for, but she didn't give a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:54 AM |
| 1 | The TMI laydees-only sex toy thread. Or, "how my understanding of women's orgasms was smashed on the weekend..."Women, and men, can orgasm during rape. You can literally be forced to have one against your will, under stress, and in pain. I think that's enough to prove that there doesn't have to be a psychological component to orgasm, but it definitely helps to have the right state of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?A lot of men don't realise that their behaviours are innapropriate, that's the problem. Very serious cases of violent rape by a stranger is not all that common and everyone knows that it's wrong, pretty much. The whole 'teach men not to rape' thing has more to do with the greyer areas; a lack of consent, verbal or non-verbal, is not always seen as a warning sign. The idea that you can't rape a spouse. Thinking that, because a girl was into you earlier, they're totally up for it. That because the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanI played WoW from release day (clueless dwarven hunter) and raided through till the end of cata. I've spent considerable time on Rift, BDO, Wildstar, Neverwinter, GW2, FF14, and others. The only gender related issues I've ever had gaming over the last 15 years or more have been bias or prejudice against women and that's normally been mostly harmless - just people being uncomfortable or awkward around them. I have had a few nastier incidents in gaming groups including harassment but in the grand … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/17 12:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanI've genuinely never seen that or heard of it. Sounds a bit silly to me. I have seen girls creeped out of gaming groups due to some rather innapropriate behaviour, though. Definitely more the case that girls are pushed out as opposed to pedastalised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 02:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There's nothing easier than to earn a "Honorary Male" title for a womanDo they? The girls I used to raid with were perfectly normal and adjusted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Q4All Who are outraged by celebrity sex scandals: What is your alternative?If people can't create masterpieces without being sexually innapropriate criminals then we shouldn't have masterpieces. How is that even contentious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 01:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP - Will the acceptance of transwomen correct what you believe is wrong with the SMP?Transwomen just aren't attractive to most men. I fully support someone's decision/identity in any case, but like the vast majority of men I will never be sexually interested in them. That's just the way it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 01:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Why do you always wanna do shit? I'm talking random brunches, going out with your friends, going on a picnic, travel etc. Why not just take a day off and relax?Male, and fortunately my girlfriend is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/17 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Why do you always wanna do shit? I'm talking random brunches, going out with your friends, going on a picnic, travel etc. Why not just take a day off and relax?This isn't a gender thing by any means. Staying in and doing nothing, to me, sounds like hell - I'd much rather do anything else even if it's something I don't normally enjoy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/17 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Most people have no issue with generalization. They just have an issue with generalization when it is directed on them personally by someone they are not familiar withThen, using that information you go develop all 10 traits.... this is ultimately going to mean every woman finds you attractive. Because statistically every woman find 9 of the 10 attractive (although a different 9 for each woman).... and if you have all 10 100% of them are going to find that you embody the 9 traits they are attracted to (and ignore the last one). It doesn't work like that. The first reason that it's irrelevant, mostly useless information is that most of what makes up attractive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 11:03 AM |
| 3 | Most people have no issue with generalization. They just have an issue with generalization when it is directed on them personally by someone they are not familiar withI don't like generalisations because they often aren't useful. Not in this context. Even if there was a heavy skew in one gender toward one trait and that was biological instead of cultural, it wouldn't make sense on a personal level to act on that knowledge from a dating perspective. It's useless. Dismissing people based on generalisations means you miss out on that potential diamond in the rough, while assuming a positive is just going to disappoint you. For some men, that's misogyny on one en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/17 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP If the Red Pill is indeed the "truth" about sexual relationships, why does it have such a small fringe internet presence? Why has it utterly failed to catch on beyond a few thousand anonymous redditors?That's exactly what it means! It doesn't tell you anything on its own but it's a sign something is going on. That's what I'm getting at. I do doubt any of this really crossed the OPs mind. They were probably falling for a fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/17 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP If the Red Pill is indeed the "truth" about sexual relationships, why does it have such a small fringe internet presence? Why has it utterly failed to catch on beyond a few thousand anonymous redditors?An appeal to popularity is a fallacy, but again that doesn't mean that popularity is a meaningless metric. There must be reasons as to why it hasn't gained traction, whether that is because it's incorrect or something completely different. If it was implying a causal relation then sure it'd be trash. Since this is purple pill debate I think asking a question that might get to the reasons for popularity is perfectly reasonable. I was only pointing that out because I think just brushing it off as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/17 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP If the Red Pill is indeed the "truth" about sexual relationships, why does it have such a small fringe internet presence? Why has it utterly failed to catch on beyond a few thousand anonymous redditors?I don't think it does. Your parallel doesn't hold, but also it isn't as though the OP was falling into a fallacy. It poses a question; why does TRP not enjoy more popularity if it is correct? It's not saying that it must be false because it has a small following, but asking why it is so relatively minor. Just as it is fallacious to suppose that a lack of popular support necessarily invalidates an argument, it would be unwise to assume popularity can never valuable as an indicator. There could be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/17 03:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP If the Red Pill is indeed the "truth" about sexual relationships, why does it have such a small fringe internet presence? Why has it utterly failed to catch on beyond a few thousand anonymous redditors?Physics has a much broader reach, though. It's taught in schools, has a large scientific global community, and contributes to advancements in technology that we benefit from in the world today. Most importantly, physics reaches a huge audience through more traditional channels. The subreddit is a tiny sample of the greater whole. TRP and associated groups exist primarily on the internet. The subreddit is a greater portion, and a more visible portion, of the whole of TRP. I don't see how that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/17 01:45 PM |
| 2 | QForAll: What is the best piece of dating advice you received?Be yourself. Genuinely. Trying to pretend you're something that you're not might fool some people, sometimes... but keeping up the act isn't sustainable. That doesn't mean don't try to improve but don't fundamentally change yourself for someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/17 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Study: "Why Happily Married Women Cheat"From the study: “Being happy in marriage is far different than being happy in bed,” said Eric Anderson, a professor of masculinity, sexuality, and sport at the University of Winchester in England and the chief science officer at AshleyMadison.com, a popular website for those interested in having extra-marital affairs. In their study, Anderson and his co-authors focus on 100 heterosexual, married, females between the ages of 35 and 45, and their conversations with potential suitors on AshleyMadis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 01:26 PM |
| 7 | Study: "Why Happily Married Women Cheat"The co-author works for ashleymadison.com If you're detecting some sympathy toward women cheating, in the tone, then I think it should be obvious as to why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/17 12:27 AM |
| 1 | How rampant is cheating exactly?It might seem like a pointless semantic point, but it isn't. It betrays a misunderstanding of biology by anthropomorphism. Again, you said this: The purpose of sex is to produce offspring, not to mark territory. You're trying to suggest that sex isn't to mark territory because it's purpose is reproduction. But it can be both. There is no primary function. There is no secondary function. That is attributing worth based on how you see it, but nature does not 'see' it at all in any particular way. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 10:58 PM |
| 1 | How rampant is cheating exactly?I'm saying that animals can go extinct through "accidents" like meteors or "natural disasters," like being in the wrong place at the wrong time. They do. And the inverse is being in the right place at the right time. That's how evolution works. Fitness is literally just a measure of how well you manage to reproduce/persist, instead of how good you might be by any other metric. Many of what we might think to be the most well adapted organisms probably died out purely through bad luck. Doesn't mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 10:19 PM |
| 1 | How rampant is cheating exactly?This isn't a religious argument. Who said it was? I'm not the one attributing purpose to natural phenomenon. Accidents happen, like giant meteors and stuff. I don't see how that is a counterpoint in any way. That was precisely my point: there isn't any intention or purpose, just what happens to survive. Sex is sex. Everything around it will change. I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. One is a supplement to the other. I don't need to have sex to orgasm. I can simulate it. That's why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 09:57 PM |
| 1 | How rampant is cheating exactly?we cannot say that sex isn't for reproduction. I'm not saying that isn't something that it's for, I'm saying that seeing it as it's sole purpose is attributing a very human thing to a cosmic accident. That's what I was getting at generally; anything that constitutes an organism can and will be preserved if it happens to be useful in terms of evolutionary fitness. The reason I brought this up in the first place is because you said this: The purpose of sex is to produce offspring, not to mark terr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 08:47 PM |
| 1 | How rampant is cheating exactly?There isn't really a purpose to anything biological. If it works, it continues to exist. If it has an advantage pertaining to biological fitness then it has a higher chance of preservation. But there is no intent or purpose. Sex has adapted to be used as more than just a method of reproduction in nature. It's important for socialisation in humans, as well as other animals, so looking at it purely as a reproductive act is very shortsighted and reductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/17 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Do you think that birth control is health care and insured by employers?Food, income, and housing are all covered to varying degrees by the states of many countries, whether that's government run food banks, free school meals, council housing, or a mimimum wage/in work benefits. And that's only right. We should have a baseline standard of healthcare supported by social programmes, that's why these things exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/17 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: Do you want your future wife to be a stay-at-home mom?I never want children but, if I did, I would rather we both worked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 06:09 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?The UK, and I've literally never seen anything like what you're describing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:57 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?It doesn't, but I don't have to pretend that. That'd be a pretty pathetic state of affairs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:47 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?And how is that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:35 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Well, I haven't. We don't have high school here. And 14 year old me had about 60/40 male/female friends. I don't see why you think that's difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:34 PM |
| 2 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Easier to be yourself. No sexual competition. Less judgement. Can you not be around girls and not have those things be an issue? That just seems very... immature and sad to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:15 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Why would you want to spend time with someone because of their gender? If you're all there to do the same thing I don't see why it matters. I hope the scouts have something more unique than just what tackle they sport. I think they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 05:01 PM |
| 2 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Alternatively, you're putting words in my mouth and I think all friendships are on an equal footing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 04:57 PM |
| 2 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Women have to work for shit too, that's just life. I don't think I have different values at all from the women in my life and I'm doing fine. Apart from that male bonding is very important and prettymuch extinct from modern society. Male bonding is no different to any other friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Because there's no need for gender specific values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 04:39 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?What's the point of it being boy's only? I see literally no reason for it to be. And letting girls join isn't dismantling anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 04:39 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?Different country, different scouts. But yes. I don't think there are male or female values, just values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 04:39 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?It's the right choice. What's the point in keeping it boys only? If girls are interested in the activities then they should join. My scout group fairly unconventionally allowed one girl when I was younger. There was no issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 02:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you all think about girls being able to join the Boy Scouts?It should already be fit for purpose then, because the values should already be gender neutral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 02:56 PM |
| 1 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?It doesn't work that way in my experience. I started identifying as feminist in my mid twenties and saw no difference in my relationships with women at all. It doesn't normally come up. As for not thinking it through... I fail to see how. I've seen women in my life suffer prejudice too much to ignore. I have to recognise women's rights as an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/17 11:53 AM |
| 3 | The Irony of RapeIn this age of 'equality' men and women should be acknowledged as the same in terms of physical strength That isn't the kind of equality being seriously pushed, so your argument fails here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 03:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV Given the recent events in Vegas, we need to immediately halt the immigration of white men into the US and ban white men from owning guns until we figure out what the hell is going on.This attack fits the description of terrorism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/17 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Are “cis” men who allow their sexuality to be co-opted by trans-activists the REAL sissies?There are definitely cases where people simply wish they were a different gender, or have very stereotypical beliefs about what the opposite sex is actually like. But actual trans people exist, and thankfully we rely on a consultation process to try and make sure that only people who need help start transitioning. Sufting through the cases is the job if a professional. No doubt they get it wrong at times but there isn't much of an alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Debate: Is dating an effortless activity or does it require effort?If you actually find someone who you genuinely like, and they reciprocate, then there is no effort just dating them. You just do what you want to do, with no pressure, and it works out. Relationships can take effort, but the honeymoon period you have when dating is so great precisely because everything is fresh, easy, and conflict free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 06:34 PM |
| 1 | "Nice Guys", Entitlement, and RadicalizationDoes any of that, in any way, undermine the phenomenon of 'Nice Guys'? I think you'll find that, though more infrequent, Nice Girl posts are submitted to that subreddit quite regularly - and the sort of people that are into that community (blue pillers) are quite likely to believe that it's not a gender issue, but that there are arseholes regardless of genitalia. A lot of the most popular posts there are memes, sure... but they're poking fun at a real deal with plenty more posts made there that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 07:02 PM |
| 1 | "Nice Guys", Entitlement, and RadicalizationIsn't it far worse that there were Nazis and communists to collaborate with in the first place? You aren't demonstrating that women, as a group, have no honour... you're just supplying evidence that some people regardless of gender are dicks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 05:42 PM |
| 0 | "Nice Guys", Entitlement, and RadicalizationThat's a complete mischaracterisation because it misses out the essential elements of entitlement and bitterness. The entire point is that no-one is obligated to like someone else no matter how 'nice' they are. There are no perfect matches, no deserving characteristics, and no need for an excuse in the first place. Nice guys are nice guys specifically when they act badly after rejection because they believe they deserve something more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 05:38 PM |
| 2 | "Nice Guys", Entitlement, and RadicalizationIf you're unsure about what your purpose is, finding it will help a lot. There's no good advice on getting there, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Do Critics of the Google Manifesto not realize that a lot of their comments may actually support his positions?If such a shift in the gaming industry, which is beyond Google's control, results in such a downtick in women entering computer science, that shows that there are fundamental differences between men and women, and that these differences can have a result in the number of women entering at least computer science. That doesn't show that it's a fundamental difference at all, it shows that these things can change. If women made up a greater portion of those in computer science before, but no longer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/17 09:42 AM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Tell me about your lonliest moment.Shit as that is, it's still only three people who've done that to you. Most people don't have it that bad, thankfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/17 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Women in general should approach moreIf going for it includes doing something illegal, then you're skipping a few steps and are probably missing more than a few marbles, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/17 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Women in general should approach moreAnd you could end up in jail if you get it wrong. You'd have to be making some pretty retarded move to get it that wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/17 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Can you "teach" a man not to rape?We should, but sex ed obviously failed to have us in the current situation. It's nothing more than a stop-gap measure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/17 04:52 PM |
| 11 | Can you "teach" a man not to rape?Yeah. You can teach men and women about consent because there are people who don't understand. Men are just targeted more often (but not universally) because they are nore often instigating rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/17 11:12 AM |
| 3 | Why are "feminist" icons men in skirts?The point is that women can be feminine or masculine but that it shouldn't matter. Feninism is supposed to be about breaking down gender roles and convention, not enforcing a different set of rules. Women are already quite well represented in terms of femininity, though, so in the media this 'empowerment' often takes the form of girls doing decidedly un-girly things. I don't think that's a contradiction, it's just the fad right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/17 02:00 PM |
| 1 | A thought on "nice guys"They are unable or unwilling to admit that stability and kindness do not arouse them, especially not when it comes in an average or below-looking package too. Not really. The issue people have with nice guys is that they expect or feel entitled to sex/relationships for being the above. They arent. You need more than that to be attractive. An attractive bad boy with interesting hobbies or skills and a thriving social life will win out a lot of the time over a boring, introverted, less attractive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/17 12:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women cannot be viewed as strong and oppressed at the same timeThose two qualities are the qualities of victims, they are being harmed by their environment and need help. A strong person isn't bothered by trying a different way of working. Not true. You can leave because you'd just rather be somewhere else, that isn't a sign of weakness or necessarily strength, it's just a preference. Now for some people it could be weakness (leaving cause they can't hack it) or it could be strength (making the difficult choice to leave because you know you can do better). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/17 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women be friends?I actually like an element of attraction in relationships with my female friends. I don't want to act on it, I don't want it to go any further, but it adds a bit of spice knowing it's there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/17 08:29 AM |
| 1 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?In what way? And are you suggesting that, with the exception of 'divorce rape', those are always/usually indicative of a fault on the woman's part? I mean, you can end relationships because your partner is shit. That's normally the reason. You get dead bedrooms because you lose attraction. Isn't is an equally likely assumption that the men in these hypotheticals have brought it on themselves? I don't think that is necessarily true. I think it just highlights how your argument here is based on no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:29 PM |
| 1 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?You can't tell someone to grow up if you didn't even address most of their points, and cherry picked to serve your confirmation bias. How about trying to apply Occam's Razor here? I addressed everything I wanted to. How is the razor in any way relevant? I told them to grow up because they were acting immature - do you think telling someone they were 'REKT', presumably because they think they brought about some sort of 'gotcha' moment, is mature? I told them to get some perspective because this i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/17 04:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV Feminists not caring about men, while saying toxic masculinity is bad for men is absurd.So a few hundred people complain about the event, and a few thousand sign a petition in opposition, and that's somehow showing that feminism shuts down events? If anything that shows you that the opposition to that kind of stupidity is louder and more easily found. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 07:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV Feminists not caring about men, while saying toxic masculinity is bad for men is absurd.Empowering women is good for men. Equality is good for men. I don't see what the link really proves in your mind - you'll find examples of feminists fighting against anything you can think of, it doesn't mean that the concept or idea is a bad one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 05:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV Feminists not caring about men, while saying toxic masculinity is bad for men is absurd.How is that the case? I'm a feminist (and a man) and I turned to feminism because it promotes equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 04:59 PM |
| 1 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?The leading cause of death among young men is suicide. More of us die from that than anything else. Regardless of how many people have depression, I think that's significantly worse, and I don't see how you think that's a 'REKT' moment in any way. Grow up and get some perspective at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 04:59 PM |
| 1 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?That doesn't necessarily follow. Men have higher suicide rates however I think that's not due to 'bonding', but insufficient support mechanisms and stigma around make emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 03:28 PM |
| 2 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?Yes, I do. It's how I am in my relationships. If I couldn't stay in a sexless relationship with someone then I wouldn't be in a relationship with them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 03:16 PM |
| 2 | How does a man deal with women lying that they love his sexuality while in a relationship with him?Love is more important in a relationship than sex regardless of gender. It is 'just sex'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Are any of you uninterested in casual sex or having sex with multiple women at the same time?I like how people can understand this sentiment. To me it's similar to how you can be a feminist and be into BDSM and rape fantasies - there's a difference between what you really want and what you fantasise over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 11:13 AM |
| 1 | CMV Feminists not caring about men, while saying toxic masculinity is bad for men is absurd.I don't buy the equality rhetoric, the name itself betrays such sentiment. It's just a name and it's called that for historical reasons. The rest of what you say here to me seems disingenuous at best because you're dismissing genuine arguments from feminists for equality based on what they call themselves. As for your points below that, I don't think there's a contradiction; only toxic masculinity is bad masculinity and regular masculinity doesn't need popping up. It's already fine. Men do howev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/17 11:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men don't have the same desire to have children and/or get married that some women doIf you think that's what I said, you either lack reading comprehension or you're willingly ignoring the context. I think it's likely the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 08:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: men don't have the same desire to have children and/or get married that some women doAnd all of those things still fail to support your argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Does feminism imply that women are the morally superior sex, at least to some extent?I think feminism rests on the belief that things don't have to be this way, and so it follows that there is no innate or natural system to overcome - there is no mald ir female moral baseline to compare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/17 11:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men don't have the same desire to have children and/or get married that some women doBiology doesn't account for the majority of differences you see between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/17 04:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: men don't have the same desire to have children and/or get married that some women doI don't doubt it, but that's not an issue with choice nor a flaw in the argument - most households these days require both parents to work to get by. Being a stay at home mom or dad is something a lot of people just can't consider, even if it's something they'd choose normally. Despite that, plenty of stay at home mom's probably wish they could go back to work as well. The only real thing that matters is that people get the choice, not what the outcomes are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What can a female friend do for me that a male friend cannot?Yeah, exactly. It's great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 04:46 PM |
| 6 | CMV: men don't have the same desire to have children and/or get married that some women doSome might be, but feminism is about choice not limitations. The issue femimists have is with women feeling pressured into that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What can a female friend do for me that a male friend cannot?There isn't really a point to it at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/17 12:31 AM |
| 3 | What exactly is stopping 30+ year old women from dating younger men if they don't care for the pickings in their age range?I've been with older women personally and most of those have had other, younger partners as well. I don't think there's much stopping them if it's something they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/17 08:58 AM |
| 3 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+I have no idea why you think that civilisation is collapsing. Traditional gender roles work for some people and they restrict others. It's better to let people do what they want and stop forcing roles on people, that way everyone can be happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:17 PM |
| 3 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+It does, but as far as gun crime goes the UK does incredibly well. People can try and kill with other weapons, but there is far less threat of mass killings if people don't have access to guns. Everyone is safer, there's no real downside to tight gun control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+oh, can't forget economic factors as well, even if you work full time it's very difficult to get a mortgage or even pay rent in many places, if you're living with your parents again you ain't gonna feel very manly. When extended family households were the norm people still managed to be 'manly'. It's only a point of wounded pride for some men now, I think, because the way we see masculinity has shifted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+Just because something works that doesn't mean it's ideal. Getting to a point where you can say 'that'll do' might leave a majority of people in a decent situation but i leaves sizable minorities behind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why does TBP and the like say "Don't treat women like they're prizes to be won." When they kind of are.Dry dicked dude who's been rejected God how many times snaps and does something harmful to a women If someone snaps because of that they seem like an entitled child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Why does TBP and the like say "Don't treat women like they're prizes to be won." When they kind of are.It's pretty sad to think that the only reason people might hold those values is to signal them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 02:34 PM |
| 14 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+Low crime rates? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 11:55 AM |
| 6 | Yougov polling: only 2% of young British men see themselves as "completely masculine" compared to 56% of men aged 60+Some women are complaining about that, not all of them and certainly not most of them. If allowing people a choice sees them migrate away from traditional roles then that's a good thing - it's harmful to force people to be something they aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/17 11:55 AM |
| 2 | Would men be happier or less happy if they took drugs that lowered their sex drives? How would women feel about men's sex drive being lower?Only SSRIs - Sertraline first, then Citalopram. I came off them after that. I had a lower sex drive on both but when I started on Sertraline I had muscle stiffness/weakness and fatigue pretty bad. Anorgasmia was worse on Citalopram though (basically couldn't orgasm at all). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Do women partially contribute to "toxic masculinity"?Definitely. Even in feminism, it's recognised that patriarchy isn't simply men oppressing women, it's rich and powerful men and their supporters oppressing everyone else - and this oppression often is facilitated by the enforcement of gender roles. Gender roles start being pushed from birth. Your mother, your extended family, your peers... all women that usually and often 'innocently' thrust you down a certain path. Examples of women doing harm in this case. If you're a regular guy then you have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/17 06:45 AM |
| 2 | Is Paternity Testing going to Remain Illegal in France?There doesn't have to be a conspiracy for there to be patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Is Paternity Testing going to Remain Illegal in France?Wrong. Ok, let's see where this goes. Feminists are unified by their basic belief that all women are all the time oppressed by men, and that all men are always oppressors of women Wrong. There are definitely feminists that don't think this. I'm really not even sure you could claim that might be the majority of feminists either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/17 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsLike what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsThat was only one example chosen for comedic effect. You can pick pretty much any policy of Trump's if you want and see that it's either no better than the opposition, or miles worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/17 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Question: Can You Tell When Another Woman Is With a Man for Money or Love?People like to think they can tell. People just generally like to think they have some piercing insight into the relationships of other couples, but they rarely do - relationships are complex things and you rarely get the full picture unless you're living in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 05:48 PM |
| 1 | How well does the porn you choose to watch fit with your pill position?It's a fantasy thing. A lot of peopke like rape fantasies but would never enjoy something lile their fantasies actually happening. Many people love roleplaying things that they aren't /don't want precisely because it's taboo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/17 12:22 PM |
| 2 | If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as wellPeople do complain. It's just when you have enough complaints you know you have a potential lost audience to exploit. It isn't at that point, so nothing happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 10:01 PM |
| 1 | How well does the porn you choose to watch fit with your pill position?Total BP, I get off mostly on maledom BDSM that involves nothing but punishment. Doesn't have to be any sex acts, just a woman in (obviously consensual) pain. Most self-identifying feminists I know are similar. One girl was poly, couldn't get off without pain, but loved her control the most. Made her feel empowered because she had ultimate control over when it stopped, even if the point was to pretend she didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 09:56 PM |
| 1 | If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as wellThe difference is that porn is porn - you consume porn for specific purposes that relate to sexuality. It's a relatively self contained thing where sex is the focus. Other entertainment is enjoyed by many different people for many different reasons. It's not that sexuality, or even degrading depictions of sexuality, are inherently bad so much as it just doesn't have much place in the mainstream because it's exclusionary. If you're a 'regular' girl into RPGs then oversexualisation can put you off… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 09:49 PM |
| 3 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsYeah. I don't think those people are stupid, though. They have no reason to distrust what people tell them, so it's comforting and pleasing to go along with someone telling you they will make your life better. Most working people at the bottom rungs of the societal ladder don't have the time or energy to consider politics to any non-superficial depth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsI don't disagree that the campaigning was that way, I just think that the potential outcomes were evident if you take a few minutes to read policies (where Trump actually had them). People often believe 'common sense' solutions will work, but they often don't. In the UK, we had the Lib Dems publicly promise not to raise tuition fees, get into coalition, and then help vote in higher tuition fees. Doesn't sound great in a headline, makes them look like dicks, and is terrible politics... but the ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsTrump isn't likely to make things much worse, or unbearably worse, for the sort of people that lean left wing. He is likely to make things tough for poorer folk, though, who happen to also form the core of his voting demographic. Sort of similar in the UK: the Conservatives might be squeezing the NHS, they are implementing policies leading to poor wage growth, tenuous employment, worst GDP growth in the G7, increasing homelessness etc etc... but most people aren't going to suffer too much. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Article: Marriage declines along with traditional male jobsNeither side gives much of a shit, but the choice was between more of the same or having Trump dump a steamer directly onto your chest. Or, in this case, Trump trying to allow coal companies to dump waste directly into your fresh water. That kind of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Female interests vs male interestsMost of the differences you point out between men and women are cultural and not inherent differences. On top of that, they still are averages. Nerd/geek culture is a good one. For a long time it hasn't been a very acceptable thing for women to participate in. Now that more girls are starting to take an interest (with geeks being 'cool' comparatively) there's actually sonetimes a backlash against them 'ruining it' for the resident men. The social concept that it's a 'male' thing is self enforcin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 03:34 PM |
| 3 | Would men be happier or less happy if they took drugs that lowered their sex drives? How would women feel about men's sex drive being lower?I'm not on any drugs, but my sex drive has plummeted in the last few years and I am far happier for it. When I was younger I was insatiable. A constant craving for sex helped ruin relationships, having sex took up all my time, I wasn't able to think about anything else... now I am more productive, I feel more fulfilled, and I'm just generally happier. I was on antidepressants for around a year and they started it off. Killed my sex drive stone dead (and it didn't help that they made me completel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 01:20 AM |
| 4 | Question For Women/Feminists, Did you go through a Man hating phase?You can't tell what kind of man is going to act like this just from appearance. Some rich/powerful men just think they can get away with it, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?What's the use in offending people? If you're trying to foster a good working environment then it's simply unnecessary. You can go and be politically incorrect behind closed doors if you want. Or you can just enjoy any of the many comedians, shows, films, or whatever that are anything but PC. The only place where PC culture actually applies is in the professional world and the public sector. That's completely justified and hardly stifling for your average person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?Again, does a minority of people kicking up a fuss mean that most people are thinking that way? No, it fucking doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?Donglegate A handful of people overreacting proves what point, exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 07:16 PM |
| 0 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?Think about where political correctness comes from and you'll be able to correct yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 07:15 PM |
| 0 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?I manage to get through every day at work without offending anyone. However long this list is, it can't be too bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?So, if another type of culture drives men out of professional environments, are they too not fit for a workplace? Definitely, that's part of the issue. As an example, men often find it difficult for various reasons to work in primary education or social work roles. Behaviour is not solely down to socialisation. It isn't, but that's also admitting that socialisation plays a part. Not all men (I don't even think most men) have to act like 'bros'. I'm a man in a workplace filled with men and that's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?You think of it as white male culture and I, another white male, do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?I'm a man, I have never worked in an environment like that because we actually act like professionals and not children. What you think of as being natural male behaviour is one way that men can be, it isn't the only way and it isn't entirely natural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 02:49 PM |
| 4 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?You're complaining about guys busting each other's balls. Guys bust each other's balls all the time. It's what we do. The only Reason people call this "bro culture" is because they (usually women) cannot, or don't want to, participate in it, so they shame it and call it dysfunctional. That's just one way of looking at masculinity. That isn't an inbuilt, completely biologically driven, natural state of affairs and it doesn't apply to all men anyway. It's a socialised pattern of behaviour. And if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?Says who? Where is this majority outrage you're suggesting exists? The fact is that being a white male in the west is perfectly acceptable and you get very little shit for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?I mean, you say that, but do you have anything but your gut feeling that suggests mainstream PC culture actually victimises white males? I'm a white male. I never experience anything like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?Like what? Cause honestly, nothing I said there would be offensive to white men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 01:21 PM |
| -1 | Bro culture: A real problem or just an overblown issue?PC culture is just not saying shit that might offend people. I don't see what's wrong with that. It's not as if the 'PC Brigade' think being offended is the worst possible thing, just that it's only polite to not be dicks to eachother. You wouldn't normally start making black humour jokes to someone you have just learned is going through a bereavement, for example, in much the same way it's fairly innapropriate to make slave jokes or something around people of certain races. Once you know someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/17 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Do women wear makeup to attract male attention?Yes and no. Will girls put effort into thetr makeup if they're trying to impress someone ? Probably. Will they still put in the same effort even if they're not around people? Also likely. Looking at it in a binary fashion just oversimplifies it, and that goes for most human behaviour. Like, girls can go to a club with friends and dress up sexily, put major effort into their makeup, and genuinely not want male attention; they just want to dance. Equally the same person could do the exact same thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/17 12:01 AM |
| 2 | What are some things unattractive guys cant do?Gym really doesn't work for everyone. I'd be wary suggesting it as a universal remedy. Some people find it fun and rewarding to exercise and feel good after a workout - people like me find it mind numbingly dull and depressing afterwards. You're right, though; most people like to be around other happy people. If you have nothing else in your life and you desperately try and find a girlfriend, it shows. It's not attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/17 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Why do women place so much emphasis on the presence of other women?None of it is exactly an issue of complete representation as much as it is a concern over problems that can lead to this imbalance. Representation is important. Men may want to be, say, a nurse or carer but think that it's a feminine role. It puts them off. It's not only the cultural pressure but personal belief: if you grow up never seeing female role models in certain professions then it can seem like it's not possible or not 'the done thing'. The other issue is discrimination. Unequal represe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/17 12:41 PM |
| 1 | The male need for sex and the reason behind the rise of the RPThat doesn't address my other point. You still have no reason to believe most men are as you claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/17 12:30 PM |
| 0 | The male need for sex and the reason behind the rise of the RPThe default stance would be that you don't know, or that there isn't some phenomenon you have no evidence for. I'm a man, btw. I don't feel the same at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/17 04:31 PM |
| 1 | The male need for sex and the reason behind the rise of the RPYou're making an assumption that it's even the norm for men to feel that need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/17 02:22 PM |
| 3 | How can there be sexism in computer engineering and mathematics if there's low barriers to entry?I agree that removing barriers doesn't necessarily lead to equality of outcome, but it's also the case that both women and men can feel excluded from fields that they may even be otherwise incentivised to enter. Male dominated technical fields can still feel very intimidating, foreign, or inappropriate to women in much the same way that traditionally female fields can feel that way for men. That may not be a systemic example of sexism but it still exists culturally. Simply removing barriers to e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/17 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?That's largely because it's not a debate Google wants to have. It just isn't in their interest to drag their corporate politics into the light. The whole thing just pulls them into the mud, so it makes sense to silence it instead of engaging with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?Totalitarian regimes aren't bad because they enforce repurcussions for actions, though. They're bad because of the extent to which they crack down on citizen's choices. Most importantly, totalitarian regimes are an affront to freedom precisely because they are a government. Freedom in this sense means that the government takes no action against you. That freedom hasn't been stifled here and Google is perfectly right to exercise it's own freedoms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 02:35 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?The biological differences are apparently not important for tech. Women are better represented in other countries than in western ones, so the indication is that it's likely more of a sociological concern. In fact, a lot of trends we observe don't hold up cross culturally, we just tend to attribute them to biology. A good example is spatial awareness. Men perform better at spatial tasks than women when studied, but when you try the experiment cross culturally you don't get the same results. Inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?It doesn't make them anti-science in the slightest. I also don't think they're even arguing that they aren't an echo chamber - Google has a right to maintain its own corporate culture and he doesn't fit into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 12:46 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?It doesn't stop being freedom just because it has repurcussions. Everything does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 12:41 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Google Manifesto - What is your opinion about Google's move in firing the author?It can be both. It's a backwards, fascist regime but it is a nation state. Why should some nations have a right to nukes and not others? Seems hypocritical to me. I wouldn't like them to have them but I can't see why they don't have a right to. Aa for oppression, the state could fix that by actually wanting to integrate but the people of North Korea don't have a lot of choice. They're definitely oppressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/17 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4 All: how old were you when you lost your virginity? (Gender and pill please)Male, 12, BP. I don't think when I lost it made much difference to my views, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/17 08:31 PM |
| 6 | Have you ever been accused of being a "nice guy" or a "nice girl"? If so, do you think it was warranted?People with contentious views can still be good prople. It's not one or the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/17 02:36 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There is no free sex, no one gets sex handed to them purely for existing.How is it disingenuous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/17 07:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is no free sex, no one gets sex handed to them purely for existing.I think it's a point made more to illustrate that easy sex isn't necessarily desirable at all. Most women could probably just pick up a random guy they aren't attracted to at a bar, but it's very unlikely to actually be a positive experience for them. Most men could probably do the same thing at a gay bar with men they aren't attracted to and they'd also not enjoy themselves. 'Free' sex is only a good thing if you want it and the reality is just that most people don't want what is on offer. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/17 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Why are "nice guys" that complain about assholes considered a meme...If being rejected by girls constitutes a lifetime of hurt, that only supports the view that 'nice guys' are insufferable snowflakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Why are "nice guys" that complain about assholes considered a meme...'Nice guys' are kind/attentive to people because they want something or feel entitled to something, whereas real nice people are just nice because they aren't cunts and they don't expect anything in return. 'Nice guys' have a tendency to act friendly to a girl, be as nice as they can, and get annoyed if they don't get rewarded with affection for their efforts. Actual nice guys are kind and friendly to girls with no expectation of it going any further. I think it actually extends beyond sex tbh. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Why doesn't society just tell boys/men what girls/women want?Society should tell men to : stay/get fit, hit the gym, be assertive and confident, dress well etc . That isn't always good advice. The issue is that individuals like different things, and that society is made up of individuals. That might be the 'safest' advice you can give but it won't always work. Telling someone to be confident, for example, doesn't help if that person has zero natural confidence. Getting ripped probably doesn't help as much if you're otherwise repulsuve. What constitutes dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/17 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Marriage should be abolished, humans were never meant to be strictly monogamousWhich works for some people. No-one is forced into it. Removing the option is just bad for the people that enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/17 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Marriage should be abolished, humans were never meant to be strictly monogamousHumans weren't 'meant' for anything. That said, many people find the idea of non-monogamous relationships upsetting. Many other people enjoy polyamory. Many more fall between the two. Before you take a blunt instrument to the idea, maybe you should consider that people are different and that marriage can be both a good or a bad thing? Its abolition would do more harm than good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/17 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do women cite male violence as male inferiority?Violence is seldom a good thing, and so it's not really a positive to be adept at it. Having a violent disposition, however, is near universally negative and can have a part to play in the creation of tyrants or other extremely damaging people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/17 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: How much of a dealbreaker is height?Personally I just give up on a girl if they're taller than me. That's because most women aren't into that, and it doesn't make me feel so good being shorter either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/17 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Are girls who fall for PUA techniques naive? Or are red pillers just smart?Neither. People like different things, and women that 'fall' for these methods are just receptive to PUAs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/17 08:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: I am neither redpill or blue pill, what are the best arguments to follow each of these philosiphies?I would say BP is more of a counter argument to RP, instead of it being a philosophy in of itself. I think that the main issue with RP thought is that it generalises far too much. People are individuals and they should be treated as such. RP attempts to come up with winning strategies based on generalised approaches to interpersonal relations. When you start playing a numbers game, though, you risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If you truly approach each person you meet as an individ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/17 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?Not all of us are insecure. Not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/17 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?The thing I don't think you're getting is that hair removal does remove hair, dyes do change hair colour, and makeup in general is only capable of accentuating what you already have (only an idiot would mistake 'natural' makeup for the real thing). Even the way heels position a girl's legs... they can stand like that if they really want to butt naked. Lifts are not making you taller. Outside of extreme surgery with limited effects anyway, a short adult will never stop being a short adult. The be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?Like wearing a push up bra is deception and a shitty thing to do ? If it's not obvious, and it's intended to trick people, then yes. Like wearing make up ? Or putting products on your hair or skin that make them look nicer ? They are not equivalent. If you see skin/hair care products and makeup as deceptive then i think you've rather missed the point of them. The key is this: Hear that girls ? No makeup, no hair products, no push up bras, no heels. You need to accept that if guys don't find you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?The appropriate response is "Fine, I'll put lifts in and be 5ft 6 as far as she can see and have a shot". That's not insecurity. That's being fucking sensible about changing your chances from 0% to something greater than 0%. Let's say 10%. That's deception, and it's a bit of a douchey thing to do. The actual appropriate response is just to accept that some people aren't going to be physically attracted to you and move the fuck on with your life. All the while not mentioning they're packing a pis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 04:51 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?I'm a dude and I think it reeks of insecurity too. Lifts are just... sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 12:09 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?That is certainly not my experience. Good relationships are founded on mutual trust and respect; insecure people are very hard to be with because it's difficult to respect insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?I hate formal wear. I genuinely have more of an issue with the shoe styling here and not the height :p But it reeks of insecurity to wear something like this regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 09:06 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Would you date a man who is 5'4", but wears 4 inch lifts out in public?No one finds insecurity attractive unless they're pretty broken themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/17 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Has hookup culture been a net benefited loss to women?It benefits or works against individuals, not genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/17 09:13 AM |
| 5 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you ever see men in public who are so beautiful that it has a powerful emotional impact on you, and really messes with your emotions, and drives you to distraction all day?I've never, ever, felt this and I'm a man. I think it has way less to do with gender and more to do with individual quirks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/17 10:23 AM |
| 8 | Q4BP: If you believe most guys are getting laid with no problems, why do you believe this?Yeah, I'm a man and I've had a one night stand only once. It was enough to put me off casual sex entirely. It really just isn't for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/17 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Red-Pillers of PPD, what are your political views? Is it true that Red-Pillers tend to lean right? And what (if anything) about TRP philosophy leads to right-wing views?The main reason that I think liberalism has developed over time to support a relatively large state is that hitting those bullet points can't really be done with a minimalist government. Infrastructure, public institutions, and essential services require a fairly robust public sector. It makes more sense, economically and ethically, to provide the best healthcare, education, policing, and transport/communication infrastructure that you can. Even in places like the UK where a right wing governmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/17 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you think you can fall in love with a woman WITHOUT sex?I don't find sex necessary full stop, let alone a prerequisite for love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/17 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Why is is so bad if a man willingly raised another man's child?It doesn't run counter to that at all. How the hell do you reach that shitty conclusion? If they both have responsibility, how is it the fault of the mother if the father leaves, which is most often the case with single parent families? They do not need an incentive because they do not see this coming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/17 11:15 AM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.If you can't see the flaw in your 'logic' then that isn't my fault, but I guess it's really just common here for people to generalise and fail to see anything outside of dichotomies. In real life people do all sorts of shitty stuff in the name of everything you can imagine. They aren't representative. Sorry, but you'll actually have to debate the points instead of finding strawmen to knock down. Unfortunately you don't seem capable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is is so bad if a man willingly raised another man's child?Two consenting adults had sex, and both of them are responsible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 04:11 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.No, patriarchy is an all-purpose-argument that means whatever the feminist in question needs to weasel her way out of a debate. I just explained what it was, do you actually have anything to suggest I'm wrong? If said feminist wants to coopt gullible beta males in order to garner their support, then partriarchy "hurts men too" because it forces men into roles even when they individually might be ill-suited for them. However, if one of these beta males dares to object to something this feminist s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/17 04:11 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.What about thunderF00t, a youtuber who was threatened by feminists to get him fired for criticizing feminists? Did anything actually happen? Again, Tim Hunt resigned because he made shitty comments that brought his institution into disrepute. He was making them look bad and so had to go. I don't see how that's anything but good. That wasn't feminists pushing for that, either, it's just something most people here won't accept as anything but sexist, and sexism isn't ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 07:02 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.You don't see a difference between a Youtuber making a video of shitty statements, and the president of Harvard making a misogynist comment? He brought the institution into disrepute, but that isn't why they got rid of him. This is what happened. That comment was a catalyst but that was not the sole reason he was removed. Since you brought it up you should probably actually know what you're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.Women do the generalization all the time and yet they get away with it. This is exactly the sort of generalisation you're making that means sensible people do not take you seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:42 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.Because those are factors that limit them? Laws are only part of the equation. Gender roles mean we all have certain expectations shoved on us that really have no place in modern society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:42 PM |
| 0 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.Even if we don't question the feminist narrative that women have toiled away ever since patriarchy wa a thing while men had a blast... Patriarchy isn't what you seem to think it is. It's not the oppression of all women by all men, it's the oppression of everyone by rich, powerful men and their supporters. It's called patriarchy and not something like androarchy for a reason. Enforced gender roles are what we take issue with, whether that's expecting women to raise kids and stay at home, or forci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:39 PM |
| 1 | If men are allowed to criticize and say nasty things about their experience with women in public, there will be less hatred and frustration against women today.Women get criticised all the time and it's absolutely fine. People only tend to get called out if they are being misogynistic, or generalising all women. Complain about individuals without stereotyping and you'll be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Is Encouraging Men to Be Emotional a Trap?Who's we? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Is Encouraging Men to Be Emotional a Trap?Women are fine with men being emotional, and even like it, they just aren't going to suddenly find you attractive if they don't already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Is Encouraging Men to Be Emotional a Trap?I think there's a difference between being emotionally vulnerable and emotional generally. The former isn't attractive in anyone regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Man's Role in Modern Society is to Serve WomenYeah, there are plenty of shitty women (and men) out there. It just saddens me when people take that and generalise women. You're being very level headed here :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Why is is so bad if a man willingly raised another man's child?Most women become single mothers when the father leaves. They don't need an incentive, since it often isn't their fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.Women care how other women look because they are competing for men's attention. Sometimes, yes. Most often, no. Again, women take part in fashion that can even be offputting to men. They don't care if men like it, it's purely for their own enjoyment. Female supermodels aren't there to be appealing to men but to model clothes to sell to other women - they're there flicking through magazines full of other women, wanting to emulate them because they think it looks good. If you just suddenly removed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.If you see that as mentally insane then it's just showing that you don't understand human nuance. If you sexualize your appearance, and you want to look sexual, your sexualizing your identity. the fact of being who or what a person or thing is. Consider a couple of things: You can want to look sexy without intending it to be sexual. Sexual attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. What does identity have to do with this? We already know that people are going to see attractiveness in differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:28 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.Im a young man and nothing I do is to try an attract women. Not everyone is like that, it seems like an odd way of looking at things to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.If a woman makes a concerted effort to make herself look as sexually as possible, she is wanting her identity to become as sexual as possible. That isn't true. You can want to look as though you're sexually attractive without wanting to actually attract sexual attention. In fact, you can be repulsed by the idea. You aren't looking to become the object of sexual desire, you aren't looking for your identity to become sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 04:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.Women are perfectly capable of acting without considering how their actions would appear to men. Again, since you perhaps didn't read it, women often care far more about what other women think. It isn't about sexual attractiveness. You also seem to ignore the asexual aspect: even they like to look good and they couldn't care less whether men sexually valued them most of the time. Also, women wear PJs. In fact, some of those same women I mentioned dress up round the house in the day, settle down … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 03:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.It isn't intended to be sexually attractive. That's seeing it from the male perspective when the woman (in this case) didn't even consider that.They aren't trying to be confusing because it makes perfect sense to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/17 03:53 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Women sexually objectify themselves.It's far more complex than that. Women often like to feel sexy simply for themselves. I know more than a few girls who dress up around the house when no one sees them all day, or even put on a pair of heels to do the ironing. Similarly, if you see a scantily clad girl at a club or bar, it's quite likely they're dolled up for themselves and their friends first, with little thought put in to what men will make of it. Many of them go for a night out dancing with their girlfriends dressed sexily and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Why is there need for any more feminism in the western world?Yes it has. How is this number a problem? Quite a few reasons. The first is that a large part of the disparity is due to cultural pressure. It isn't OK that men are bullied or pressured out of primary teaching, simply because that's shitty for individual men, but it also isn't efficient for the sector. The purpose of the schooling system is to provide the best education possible for children. When you have a huge untapped pool of male talent, that means we could do better. Encouraging more men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/17 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Why is there need for any more feminism in the western world?No it's not. The situation had sorted itself out No, it hasn't - 26% of teachers in the UK are male, making up only 15% of primary school teachers. If you are talking about the fact that some people don't like other races - that's not a problem. Racism isn't ok. Where? From schools of course and most other examples of affirmative action. Affirmative action = anti equality of opportunity and direct discrimination of those who aren't supported by it. Again, why are you talking about affirmative ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/17 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Why is there need for any more feminism in the western world?The example I gave in my original comment is precisely the kind of situation that had not sorted itself out when left alone. I'm also not sure you understand that there's more to this than quotas - many feminists, including myself, do not agree with quotas. So where you're getting the discrimination idea from is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/17 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is there need for any more feminism in the western world?I don't think that's exactly right, even though I favour only legislating for equality of opportunity, largely because we don't just see it as a female issue - we see it as a gender equality issue. I have no doubt that some industries will be more popular with men or women, but that doesn't mean there aren't cultural or practical barrier to entry present today that need addressing. Assuming that it will just sort itself out has proven false so we have to do something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/17 09:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men bitch far too much about their problems.Well the topic was (before it got removed at some point) how "men whine in public about problems more than women Aye, and I don't agree with the original premise... I just don't agree that it necessarily goes the other way, either. The study is looking at something pretty specific, and I think it misses a lot. I don't think it was badly done but it doesn't address the many ways people now communicate, nor how this differs between age groups, culture, class, and so on. I also think that the sprea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 08:06 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantagesYou think that most feminists are in organised groups? I'm not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 07:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men bitch far too much about their problems.Aye, I'm saying that the average is pretty irrelevant, and isn't worth generalising from, since there's such a broad spread. I'm not arguing with the average, I'm saying the average is useless for this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 07:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men bitch far too much about their problems.If the study is correct NO YOU DO NOT. What the study suggests has nothing to do with what I see in my life, since we all live in different bubbles. As an example, I have a grand total of one friend from school with a child by the age of 26. I have a friend who's entire school year seems to have been knocked up by 19. Neither of those are in line with national statistics, which are an average. I add my anecdote for another reason; not because I think it discredits the study exactly, but because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 06:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantagesFetus in latin means small child. Great, but we aren't speaking latin, and a fetus isn't a baby. Aaand; do you not think women are smart enough to know that STEM exists and pursue it for themselves No, I think a lot of them do. I also think a lot of them feel like they aren't accepted or wanted in those fields. As an opposite example, primary school teachers in the UK are most often female to the point where we encourage men to take up the profession. They aren't becoming primary school teachers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 06:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men bitch far too much about their problems.I get what you're saying here, and I broadly agree, but I think that there's a big difference between sharing emotions and bitching. Personally, I see men and women vent as much as eachother but men tend to express frustration and anger as with the red pill, where women gossip behind one another's backs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 04:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantagesYeah, I wouldn't really have called myself a feminist a few years ago despite agreeing with most of it: it has terrible connotations. I think that, when you have sex, you accept the risks: You might have to support a child, even if you don't intend to have one. For women, you might be able to have an abortion but this chance does not exist for a man simply due to biology. That's a bit shit for men, but abortion isn't exactly something to be taken lightly. It's often incredibly traumatic experien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 03:43 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantagesIt's not every feminist, I said it's a split. Take the UK Labour party as an example of a political group that has an internal split over gender/race quotas. Representation, by the way, is important - I just think that we have to let it evolve more slowly than by using quotas. Similarly, we do express this opinion politically and quotas are not as common in some places as others. The fact you never seem to see them is just your confirmation bias. 4) Its very unfair. Men shouldn't have to pay for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 03:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantagesI'm a feminist that doesn't like quotas, because I feel they hurt in the long term. Presenting it as a default feminist stance is attacking a position we don't all hold - it's pointless. Sure, go into detail about why you disagree with it (I might even agree with you), but don't make out that it somehow discredits the entire movement. Tbh, that seems like the extent of your reasoning here. Find some things people have said that look bad and then try and generalise feminism from that. 4) Regardle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 03:05 PM |
| 11 | Why is there need for any more feminism in the western world?You can liken this to racism - everyone has the same rights under the law, but that doesn't mean that racism isn't still an issue today. Rights are only one part of it. There is still prejudice even if you're legally equal. For example, employers have to follow anti-discrimination laws. That doesn't mean that they do in practice, and there's a lot of prejudice in employment. There are some decent experiments that show how people hold men and women to different standards; as in, traits in a man t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 02:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Feminism is a philosophy that attempts to negate men's biological advantages while preserving women's biological advantages1) "Equality" towards all TOP tier positions in the society despite differences in aggressiveness, work ethic and IQ distributions favoring men at the higher end of the bell curve. This has become EXTREMELY obvious in Silicon Valley with the CEO of youtube, Marissa Meyer, etc. This is common in academia too for major affirmative action for women in STEM fields. There are differences between men and women on average - that isn't to say that there aren't outliers among both. There's zero harm in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/17 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?I don't see how I am - misogyny has intent, it's not just when bad things happen to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 11:18 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?You don't have to be an asshole to get what you want. In fact, being an asshole is counter productive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 07:23 PM |
| 7 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?TRP isn't extreme masculism. It really is. TRP is taking common sense advice (self improve, have goals, etc.) and layering a thick dollop of psuedoscientific misogyny on top. They have a whole host of acronyms over complicating pretty much any topic, and people that are actually concerned with men's rights are far more moderate. The majority of us don't even lie, cheat, or steal, so there's nothing extreme about it. The viewpoint is the radical part, not actions. It's not that simple. When "wron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 07:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Single moms are totally incompetent at raising children alone; and they're even worse at raising boys.Not incredibly masculine (but not very feminine, either) and I've spent most of my life in one relationship or another. A few one night stands and flings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?I have been, and I don't. And there have been incredible women, terrible men, and everything in between. I know there are plenty of bad people and gender has basically nothing to do with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:52 PM |
| 1 | In your opinion what is the best age for a woman and man to get married?I wouldn't get married till I was at least in my late 30s. If ever. I think that SMV is a completely retarded concept, and that you should just settle down with someone that you love. Spending too much time trying to turn this into a science, when it's really not, will just give you a headache. The best age for men is probably the late 20's. That's when they actually start experiencing life, make bank, have lots of social connections, maximum SMV, etc Pretty much every single person I know, rega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:51 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Single moms are totally incompetent at raising children alone; and they're even worse at raising boys.I was raised by a single mom, and I feel that it fucked me up. I'm incredibly feminine, and it's a huge turn off to women. There's no reason to think this is the case for most people raised by a single mother. How do you know that's not just how you are? Personally, I was raised by a single mother and it was good for me. I'm doing fine and, honestly, not having my father in the picture saved me from a lot of trouble (he's been in and out of prison most of my life - my mom left him as soon as he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?You can give people what they want for your own selfish reasons. It doesn't logically follow that you can't hate/look down on a group because you help them out by helping yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?A lot of hot people get rejected, too. Especially as you get older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:41 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?If you're treated badly by people, the correct response is never to start stereotyping their entire demographic. That's just retarded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:31 PM |
| 6 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?Full-blown feminism is cool with people Fringe feminists are just as socially unacceptable as extreme masculism is. In fact, a lot of people are ashamed to identify as a feminist even if they agree with the idea - it's just not cool. Regardless, even if there was some gross injustice here, this isn't the right way to address it. I wish people took it to heart when they were told 'Two wrongs don't make a right' as a child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many misogynistic posts up-voted on The Red Pill?The base expectation is that a lad isn't a huge manchild - it's not exactly a high bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 06:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If a man buys a house, the wife should be obligated to do the basic choresThe arrangement can be whatever they want it to be. If the man in this case says he expects this, but the woman disagrees, then they should just not live together. If they both think it's fine then there's no issue. If the man doesn't expect anything then fair enough - she's under no obligation at all. People are more than capable of coming to these sorts of understsndings themselves. We shouldn't be telling people how to live or judging them for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 08:46 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How easy do you find it to make friends of the opposite sex?I make friends with the opposite gender far more easily. Most women my age are a lot more mature, getting on with their lives, and more fun to be around generally. A lot of the men I grew up with just kind of became manchildren. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/17 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What is BP dating strategy?A lot of people aren't even ready to start looking for a partner. Treat people like individuals and not stereotypes. Appreciate others sincerely and not just as a route to your own happiness. Be happy and content without feeling as though you need to be in a relationship in the first place. Have a healthy social life with friends and sociable hobbies. Once you're at that point, you're ready to start looking, and not before. People most often want equal partners in a relationship, not clingers or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 02:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Cat-calling is not sexual harassmentPerhaps women should be more appreciative/thankful that they're the fairer sex. That's so remarkably backwards - it isn't endearing, or something that should be appreciated; it's awkward at best and threatening at worst. Getting a compliment is entirely different from being catcalled. Pretty thus thjs doesn't happen regularly for most women. This can be a daily occurrence depending on where you live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/17 02:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"Yeah, it's a very natural default stance when you consider how humans reproduce - we put a lot of time and effort into one child at a time and monogamy (or serial monogamy) is common in species with similar reproductive strategies. Society is an extension of individuals and their competing desires, afterall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 01:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"That is a friend in general, though - not necessarily anyone who's friends with their partner. I don't think that actually says much except not that many people cheat, that half don't usually cheat more than once, and that they know the person they cheat with in some way quite often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/17 12:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"And that's precisely the issue with anecdote - it doesn't tell you much. Studies into infidelity give us some idea of how common it might be but we can at least say that not everyone does it, but that it does happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 10:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"Not very often. I've literally never seen it personally, or through anyone I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 09:51 PM |
| 3 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"To repress people that deviate. When you take the view that one way is the right way, then it often follows to try and force everyone into it. In humans, evolutionary fitness is predicated on a child being raised since it isn't self sufficient until it's a lot older. That means it's most beneficial when both parents care for the child. However, you can 'cheat' this system by sowing your wild oats, taking off and leaving that child with one parent. There are multiple, competing sexual strategies … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 08:31 PM |
| 3 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"Aye, I think TRP in general is just very black and white. What they don't seem to get is that relationships are between individuals, not stereotypical beings. Some people are cheaters, and some aren't. Some people will stick in awful relationships and stay loyal despite all odds, and others look for any excuse to start an affair. Trying to generalise or tar every woman with the same brush is just writing off 50% of the population on shaky 'logic'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 07:08 PM |
| 6 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"That's just not the case though. Sure, people are probably more likely to cheat with someone that looks like that, but not everyone has it in them to cheat at all. Most of the infidelity I've ever known was actually pretty mundane - people cheating on someone with a person who was, quite frankly, probably not worth it. It's usually just an indicator that a relationship was in trouble, or that the cheater was in a bad place mentally. Whether you want to believe that or not, I've personally known … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 03:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: No, your girlfriend doesn't want to cheat on you with a "more alpha guy"Monogamy is more than just a social construct - it's a natural tendency. The majority of people tend towards monogamy because it's a general human trait. There are plenty of people who fall outside of that norm, but that doesn't disprove anything. Look at different animals, like cuttlefish for example, and you can see that there are multiple sexual strategies in a given population. Generally, there's the 'default' method and there are alternatives that seek to subvert or take advantage of that n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/17 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Could you be with someone who has opposing political views from you?Social conservatism is evil or discriminatory at best and economic conservatism doesn't work for the most part. I'd either hate a right winger or think they were stupid. There are plenty of knee-jerk, stupid liberals too, though. It's a very appealing and naive mindset to adopt entirely if you want to ignore real issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/17 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How do you get consent?Are you pretending your initial comment was any more logical? You somehow jumped from: And if they don't take "no" seriously, they deserve the rape accusations they get. to: Quoted for the fact that feminism is a hate movement and that you don't see men as human beings. Men deserve to have their lives ruined if a woman ever slows things down or flirts with the word "no?" What you're saying is disgusting. The quote doesn't suggest what you think it does. Pretty large comprehension fail. In what w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 04:49 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: How do you get consent?Sounds more like you've got the comprehension issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 04:37 PM |
| 1 | QFMEN: How many previous partners can your girlfriend have until you deem her as non-marriage worthy?Having sex in no way relates to self respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 01:38 PM |
| 1 | QFMEN: How many previous partners can your girlfriend have until you deem her as non-marriage worthy?It's just a number. Why would I care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 01:36 PM |
| 0 | Q4All: How do you get consent?Not only was that not even implied, but the way you've flown off the handle shows just how little you understand what you're on about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/17 01:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Single motherhood is bad for literally all parties involved, but no one does anything to stop it because that would require women to change.That's an incredibly grim and emotionally stunted stance. For one, no matter what safeguards are in place, accidents can happen and people can find themselves in dire straits. 'Invoking society' is completely moot given that. And do two wrongs make a right anyway? In the case of an adult I could accept that they share the burden thanks to personal responsibility. However, in the case of a child who is in every sense innocent it's just wrong to throw them under the bus. What good reason could you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 01:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Single motherhood is bad for literally all parties involved, but no one does anything to stop it because that would require women to change.Society and community exist. Should orphans just be cast aside, for example? It's inhumane not to look after the worst off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 08:50 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Single motherhood is bad for literally all parties involved, but no one does anything to stop it because that would require women to change.I believe that's because women have the power to end this adverse trend, but telling them so is considered offensive. That's because it is offensive. Abortions can be traumatic, unfeasible, or undesirable for many reasons. It's wrong for anyone to assume or force a woman into having one, because it is in no way an easy fix. Sadly, this won't happen in a culture that holds men more accountable for everything and considers pregnancy as a female entitlement men need to support without any say. It t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/17 06:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The redpill analyzes the lizard brain, while the bluepill mostly focuses on the rational aspect while neglecting our core drives.Except they aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/17 09:31 AM |
| 1 | [Q4 BP and Feminists] What is your solution for men who have trouble with women?Hardly - trying to be attractive is one thing, trying to take without giving is another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 09:40 AM |
| 4 | Are redpillers considered to be inherently conservative?I don't see how a known liar is any better. From little lies that make no sense, to big lies that are dangerous, Trump has been a cunt every single day of his presidency so far. His policies have almost entirely been shit for everyone who's not already rich. What would Hilary have done? Some bad, some good, some mediocre. Importantly, better. The whole false equivalence between them is incredibly baffling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/17 09:07 AM |
| 2 | [Q4 BP and Feminists] What is your solution for men who have trouble with women?If someone is willing to play along then fine - I just mean that, for the most part, one participant in this kind of relationship is going to be unfairly manipulated. If you're both on the same page then there is no issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 05:44 PM |
| 2 | [Q4 BP and Feminists] What is your solution for men who have trouble with women?If you try to be true to your own nature and follow that to its natural conclusion then that's improving yourself. Some things are more general, like trying to look good, but even that's specific. If you're a smart dude who's into science then pursuing that career in academia is a kind of self improvement. If you aren't that way inclined then it's just going to be false. Similarly, saying you should improve your appearance is fine, but it means different things to different people. If you're mas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 05:42 PM |
| 9 | [Q4 BP and Feminists] What is your solution for men who have trouble with women?People that have trouble with romance and sex should look to improve themselves and pursue fulfilment, and to that extent TRP is fine. If people have to resort to mindgames, manipulation or to trickery in order to be sexually successful then I'd rather they didn't. If they have to introduce misogyny, repressive or regressive views then it's much the same. Self improvement and attractiveness are not the sole reserve of TRP, but it does tend to attract some proper dickheads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/17 09:45 AM |
| 7 | CMV it is perfectly okay for me to not care for anyone who is not my concernSome people are dicks. You're welcome to be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 11:34 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Women are not any more or less valuable than men are, and have the same rights. As such, there is no grand conspiracy of men working to undermine women.Legal rights are not the only factor, and very few people are suggesting there's any form of conspiracy - rather that there are certain cultural imbalances and expectations pertaining to gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 11:33 AM |
| 1 | The Body Positivity Movement Is a Microcosm of What Feminism Is AboutSome feminists are trying to promote other women's choices. Some men could take a leaf outta the same book. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/17 09:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If TRP would just drop the misogyny and adopt Popper's principle of falsifiability, they could become an enormous movement with millions of members globally.Grounded in the idea that gender equality is an issue that affects all people—socially, economically and politically—it seeks to actively involve men and boys in a movement that was originally conceived as "a struggle for women by women". It isn't hard to find that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/17 08:01 PM |
| 4 | CMV: If TRP would just drop the misogyny and adopt Popper's principle of falsifiability, they could become an enormous movement with millions of members globally.That's the kind of delusion that makes any sensible person immediately dismiss anything you say - if the best you can do is amass a movement consisting entirely of the leftovers then you're never going to get anywhere. That's why TRP is such a cesspit of seething emotional turmoil. Which is a good job really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/17 04:41 PM |
| 1 | QuestionForBP: Which parts of The Red Pill do you disagree with?Pretty much everything bar self improvement, but don't go expecting that to magically transform someone into a clunge magnet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/17 10:17 AM |
| 3 | Since we've established that feminism isn't concerned with solving men's issues, what's the point of /r/Menslib?It was a pretty shit analogy tbf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/17 10:42 AM |
| 2 | Since we've established that feminism isn't concerned with solving men's issues, what's the point of /r/Menslib?I don't think you've reached a consensus at all. Plenty of feminists will disagree since the movement encompasses many views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/17 10:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the media doesn't say that being nice will get men casual sexGenerally maybe, but I didn't suggest it was usually the case. Divorce can be incredibly tumultuous and harmful. But that doesn't mean it isn't sometimes preferable. More broadly I think it's better that the situation is avoided entirely and that people enter into relationships because it makes them happy, not because it was necessary. Also it often still is the case that leaving is hard. Benefits are nowhere near that generous, they're a safety net. And rightly so. The majority of people don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Feminists: what do you think about pornography?A succinct summary. People would do well to understand that feminism has its own fractures. I think that most feminists wouldn't say it was degrading, though - a lot of Feminism is avout rejecting that. It's about letting people do what they want without being restricted by gender roles. Think the reclamation of the word slut. The latter opinion is more prevalent with second wavers though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 02:25 PM |
| 5 | CMV: the media doesn't say that being nice will get men casual sexYou should. If you're bringing children up then you owe it to them to actually raise them in a loving family environment, not one where mommy wishes she could leave but can't cause she's reliant. There are many cases where a divorce is better for everyone involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 02:20 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Cheating is always a woman's faultInfidelity is the fault of whoever cheats in the first place. We're responsible for our own actions, even if there are mitigating factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 11:59 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Feminism advocates for inverse inequality, not equalityWomen achieving certain positions or even being paid equally for the same work is seen positively by feminists because it highlights how it is possible. The more normal it is, and the more prevalent, the better. This isn't trying to screw men over, it's attempting to address an imbalance that already exists. Since the law is now largely equal the battle is with culture and visibility. Young women seeing that they can achieve in any field and it not be miraculous is important in getting them to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 11:55 AM |
| 5 | CMV: the media doesn't say that being nice will get men casual sexGiven how biology and sexual economics work, they have less incentives to compromise on it than Men today, than generations ago. And that's great. Women having to settle because they had no other way of supporting themselves was tragic and lead to countless loveless marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/17 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4anti-RP: Do you understand that you are the blacksmiths forging the next version of the Red Pill?If men's rights can actually turn a corner and dump all of the classuc TRP nonsense then that's a good thing. We care about equality and fairness, not point scoring. If we can have actual progressive, competent movements highlighting male dominated issues I'm all for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/17 10:07 AM |
| 5 | Q4RP: What has Feminism specifically done to hurt men?It's not just that men are more likely to rape, but that they're more likely to rape without realising that they are. Consent is ill understood by many any the campaign attempts to address that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/17 03:58 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: What has Feminism specifically done to hurt men?Who's declared you an enemy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/17 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Would the total elimination of the welfare state bring back traditional dating and marriage?And religion is not a particularly ethical way of exercising authority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 01:42 PM |
| 1 | The Day without Women proves that society treats women like childrenI wasn't really trying to start an argument about who's work is more essential - more that I disagree with the tone and sentiment of the comment I responded to. You can't reasonably keeo functioning if one sex suddenly pulled out of work because we're a society - we're all important in our own way and in it together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 12:37 PM |
| 5 | Would the total elimination of the welfare state bring back traditional dating and marriage?A return of religion also brings with it more shit than it's worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 09:36 AM |
| 7 | Would the total elimination of the welfare state bring back traditional dating and marriage?That wasn't an effect of welfare so much as it was increasing access to divorce. Forcing people to stay in toxic households through purely financial incentives would also have been a bad move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 09:34 AM |
| 4 | Would the total elimination of the welfare state bring back traditional dating and marriage?Welfare is a desirable safety net. The longer we go on the way we are, the more necessary basic income becomes anyway. Considering that most people dating now are both in work or full time education I don't see it changing anything regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 09:32 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.What was my original argument and how, in any way, does that study contest it? In short, it doesn't. It reinforces it. You obviously don't understand what you're reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 08:35 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about this BBC article about girls born in 2016 are 75% more likely to go to university than boys?I don't see how that's a bias in the system. That's attempting to address a bias. This is similar to how schools work with colleges to get lower income kids into FE and HE, because they're under represented. Or the drive to get more men into primary teaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 02:49 AM |
| 3 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.That study doesn't suggest what you think it does. If your reading comprehension is this bad, no bloody wonder you struggle with grey areas. This entire comment thread is you jumping to extremes. Similarly no one has been seriously suggesting that it's impossible for a woman to rape a man. In fact, male victims of rape are likely to meet disbelief from make peers assuming that it 'doesn't count'. I meant feminists aren't saying that. I overestimated your ability to pick up on context, apparently… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/17 02:43 AM |
| 4 | Unless you live on a farm or have a bunch of small children. There is no role for a SAHW in the modern world.I dunno what sort of household you're used to but every stay at home parent I've lived with has spent more time working every day than I typically do with a 9-5 job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 08:21 PM |
| 5 | The Day without Women proves that society treats women like childrenThey would if predominantly female dominated professions did, too. Like nursing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 01:43 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this BBC article about girls born in 2016 are 75% more likely to go to university than boys?How is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 01:41 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about this BBC article about girls born in 2016 are 75% more likely to go to university than boys?The mix is still very different, though. You aren't really seeing the effect of more women entering fields traditionally dominated by men as much as you are seeing increasing numbers of women studying female dominated subjects. Male academic achievement, attendance and the like is a continual issue for education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 01:40 PM |
| 3 | What do you think about this BBC article about girls born in 2016 are 75% more likely to go to university than boys?Aw, Scotland is great. Well, small bits of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Feminists: Do you accept that TRP and feminism are morally equivalent?TRP is pseudoscientific, evo-psych bullshit. Men's rights is a legitimate thing that tends to overlap with feninism in the first place, but it's at least genuine. Both, however, have their fair share of idiots who just want to play at gender wars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 10:54 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.Male on female and male on male rape occur far more frequently than than female on male or female on female assaults. If you seriously think the suggestion is that only men can rape, however, you haven't been listening. Similarly no one has been seriously suggesting that it's impossible for a woman to rape a man. In fact, male victims of rape are likely to meet disbelief from make peers assuming that it 'doesn't count'. Feminism isn't at fault for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 10:17 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.I mean, I didn't say that. The issue is that men are more often going to rape, and a lot of people have no idea how to respect consent. That means that the best way to reduce rape is to educate men about it. That's actually been a major drive of feminism - to tell women to respect their own bodies and all that good stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 05:26 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.That's completely missing the point of feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/17 01:52 PM |
| 5 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.The whole reason there's a drive to educate men not to rape is because it's been demonstrated that they often don't even realise what rape is, and so they are a risk. It isn't a pretend issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/17 01:51 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.Feminism is about freeing people from gender roles, not about men oppresing women. The patriarchy has a stricter definition than that, and also negatively impacts many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/17 01:48 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] I have come believe that feminism stigmatizes male heterosexuality as inherently rapist in the same way Christian evangelicals stigmatize homosexual males as pedophiles.No, but the fact that it isn't typical feminist thought does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/17 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Women's PHYSICAL Weakness compared to men actually Creates a strong MENTAL Weakness.What you're saying is common sense, but it doesn't play out that way in practice. More guns increases gun crime more than having armed citizens prevents killings. The latter doesn't happen enough to offset the negative. Similarly, yes - people will always find ways to kill eachother but they still do so less often when they don't have easy access to weaponry. The murder rate is still lower in the UK. People aren't just replacing gun violence with knife violence; banning guns just had the effect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/17 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women's PHYSICAL Weakness compared to men actually Creates a strong MENTAL Weakness.Just in general. We have barely any gun violence in the UK because hardly anyone has a gun. The guns that people do tend to have are unwieldy and hard to get into public, so we just don't have the same kind of violence that you get in places like America. Yeah, some gun crimes/massacres could be prevented by a civilian stopping the madman with their own gun, but having guns freely available produces more risk than it alleviates. It does more harm than good for everyone to be armed even when you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/17 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Women's PHYSICAL Weakness compared to men actually Creates a strong MENTAL Weakness.A surprising amount of men don't recognise rape when they see it. Women too, actually. Unfortunately it is sonething people need to be shown. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/17 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Women's PHYSICAL Weakness compared to men actually Creates a strong MENTAL Weakness.All women in the US should be packing heat and be insanely protective of their second amendment right to bear arms. I don't agree with anything you've said bar that women are typically physically weaker, but this point particularly caught my attention. Gun control isn't a feminist viewpoint, it's a logical one. More guns makes everyone less safe on average, not more. But anyway, men are actually more often victims of violence. We force them to the draft. If anything then men should have the cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/17 11:17 AM |
| 3 | Why is it okay for women to insult short men but, society goes crazy if men do the same to overweight women?Weight is often a lifestyle choice. Height isn't. The acceptance movement is advocating people living how they want to. It's not really comparable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?That isn't what feminism says at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?For the most part, morals just allow us to operate. The basic laws that exist serve to keep society working - no murder, theft and the like. That doesn't mean it's not gonna help some people to murder or steal, but it does mean they're harming society in the process and, by extension, everyone else. Things would just work better if we acted more morally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Do all women really respond positively to dominant behavior?No, a lot do though. Some women are dominant. Feminism, for one, in no way conflicts with submissiveness. A lot of kink/BDSM women are feminists, afterall. It's more about allowing people to adopt whatever roles they want instead of having to adhere to gender standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 02:16 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What's so bad about misogyny?Success isn't a good indicator of what's good or just. At least, not at that scale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/17 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Question: Where do you even find single girls?It's a preference. We allow people to discriminate when it comes to personal attraction because everyone likes different things. You can't force people to want something that they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/17 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: Do Pictures of Beautiful Women Still Turn You On?Well that's a unique way of looking at it. I didn't realise anyone had their sensation dulled quite that much by a condom, but that sucks. Yeah, I'm not a fan of circumcision for anything but medical necessity because it is, so far as I can tell, quite pleasurable :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 09:40 PM |
| 4 | "Feminine" men are more ideal than masculine menNo, they aren't. Look for different women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 12:37 PM |
| 1 | "Feminine" men are more ideal than masculine menI really don't think so. For some women, maybe, but I've never seen it as necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 12:36 PM |
| 5 | Q4MEN: Do Pictures of Beautiful Women Still Turn You On?How can a real girl compare to 100000000000000 pictures and videos of god smackingly perfect girls naked and doing everything I want. Cause it feels better actually physically having sex with someone and getting a real, emotional connection with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/17 12:27 PM |
| 1 | The State of average American Women 2016/2017That sounds like a dream to some people, and hell to others. Not everyone enjoys causal sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 05:35 PM |
| 1 | The State of average American Women 2016/2017Most people do end up in relationships anyway. The ccommon advice might be working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/17 01:49 PM |
| 2 | If you're good-looking, there is little you can do wrong. If you're not good-looking, there is little you can do right.Men and women both end up judged on attractiveness for things completely unrelated to appearance. Generally a woman gets more of a leg up than a man for being pretty, but is penalised more for being ugly. That is to say, a woman might get a job working as a waitress based 100% on looks but being an ugly motherfucker doesn't stop talented men grabbing lucrative, top positions. But it happens all the time. Two equally qualified men can apply for a job and the most attractive one will get hired mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/17 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Everybody needs a little love sometimes!Not everyone wants someone, though, whether that's because they're asexual or purely into sex and not relationships. It's true though that we're all different. There's no point generalising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Guys with mysogynist attitude suck at sexMaybe the latter :P I think most people are passable, they just rarely get more into it than missionary with maybe a dash of foreplay. For many people that's just the effort they can give, for others that's just good enough. I've known more than a few men with the attitude of 'so long as I get to cum, it was decent enough'. I mean, they've literally said that. Some others I know are parents with jobs. When they do get to have sex, it's because they managed to pinch ten minutes alone and they don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Does one's ability to get sex or relationships reflect on their value as a human being?No, not at all. I think you may believe I was attacking something you've said when I've not :P Was just trying to get across that, even when looking from an evolutionary perspective, it isn't ever simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 09:13 PM |
| 18 | CMV: Guys with mysogynist attitude suck at sexMisogyny has a pretty explicit definition and most people are not confused about its meaning in the slightest. Misogyny is disturbingly common, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 07:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Guys with mysogynist attitude suck at sexHonestly, a misogynist could be great at sex. I don't think their attitude toward women will determine how good they are at pleasing someone, or themselves. There might be a trend as you suggest but I don't think it'll be as pronounced as a lot of people think it is - especially when the bar is so low to begin with (most people are bad at sex anyway). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Does one's ability to get sex or relationships reflect on their value as a human being?Yeah, I do question if it's appropriate to look at someone's worth through the lens of biology/reproduction (and I posted something to that effect in here somewhere). To some people it obviously is. We might not be ants, but I think they're a useful example because even scientists once had to struggle with the 'dilemma' of individual ants not contributing genetically. A lot of people get the wrong end of the stick with evolutionary theory when applied to humans, particularly when debating homose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Does one's ability to get sex or relationships reflect on their value as a human being?People that don't reproduce can still be valuable for the continuation of the species. That's how homosexuality can keep cropping up despite it having no 'obvious' selective benefits. A good example of this is eusocial insects. Only a small number of ants reproduce but every member of the colony is important to the continuation (and ultimate evolution) of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Does one's ability to get sex or relationships reflect on their value as a human being?People don't have value in that way. People can value you, or you can value yourself, and all in different ways but there is no universal metric. It all depends on perspective. If your idea of someone's worth is how much sex they can get then sure - they have little value if they can't. What's interesting is if someone who doesn't value sex lives in a culture that reveres sexuality. They will see their own value in a very different way to their peers. Or they'll feel different and outcast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Drinking / Partying Culture in America vs BritainDrunkenness is at least partially cultural. People behave how they think a drunk person behaves when they're drunk themselves. That can change depending on what your perception of drunkenness is, and so varies with culture. You can even quite reliably get people to act drunk when you give them an alcohol 'placebo'. All of that put together gives you an interesting picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Drinking / Partying Culture in America vs BritainI'm from the UK and none of that really sounds like my experience. I'm 26 now and the only time it was ever 'necessary' to drink in order to socialise was during my first year of uni. Outside of that, the majority of people I know don't drink or drink rarely. I've only had one girlfriend that drank at all and she only did on special occasions like New Year's. That isn't to say people in the UK don't drink a lot on average. For some people it really is a case of drinking every weekend till they c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 04:42 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Men who have casual sex are not responsible for this disastrous sexual market-place, it is women who should be shamed because they're the ones supplying sex...Nevermind everything else, thinking of sex like a market is the least sexy thing imaginable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/17 10:43 AM |
| 2 | are negative male stereotypes in advertisements a reflection of the contempt women feel for their beta bucks partners?It does everyone a disservice honestly. Makes the woman little more than an unlikable comedic foil and the man as a massive child without a moral compass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/17 09:37 AM |
| 2 | are negative male stereotypes in advertisements a reflection of the contempt women feel for their beta bucks partners?Stereotypes in advertising are interesting but relatively self contained. That particular depiction of the nuclear family is supposed to be relatable to the average family. I mean I literally don't know anyone with a family like that but oh well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/17 09:32 AM |
| 1 | .... it looks like going "beta" is saving my marriageYes, men can be into those things. I've known couples where the girl is far less interested and the man plans everything. Personally, I don't care a wink what colour the flowers were on the table or if soup was served as a starter, but some men do. Definitely the minority, but it doesn't help to pretend it doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 08:38 PM |
| 1 | .... it looks like going "beta" is saving my marriagePlenty of men dream about marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/17 01:33 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Monogamy requires commitment to limit sex to each other, but also reasonable access to sex. If you deny access, you have broken the monogamous agreement just as much as an affair would have.Relationships are whatever you want them to be. There isn't some rule about how much or little you put out. It's what ever feels right for those people. If you both want different things then that's just compatability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/17 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Girls that date non masculine men doesn't prove TRP wrongThere are women of all different kinds, with different preferences and personalities. That's why TRP is irrelevant. Trying to generalise women when they're anything but homogeneous is folly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/17 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Would you date a short man?It's pretty useless attempting to use facts against some TRP beliefs like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: Women have equals rights. Amidst all this equality, feminists still assert that men and women are not equal. What do men need to know in order to understand the feminist idea of inequality of the sexes?Feminism is against those kind of gender roles. At least, pressuring people to fit them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/17 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP - How Would You Regulate the SMP?Definitely, I'm not disagreeing particular with that - just when people might suggest the woman is under some obligation to have an abortion. I don't think she's any more or less responsible if she doesn't choose to. Part of that is because, despite the ease with which people might propose it as an option, it's traumatic and life changing enough to have an abortion. No-one is happy to go through it. The woman has essentially been pressed into a bad situation regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/17 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP - How Would You Regulate the SMP?Men and women have equal reproductive rights, I don't really know what you mean. But I think there are very good reasons that women can receive more welfare on average. None of them are just that they're taking advantage (at least, not more than men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/17 06:00 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Do you believe Red Pillers when they tell you they are not misogynists and just want to help men improve themselves?Trying to make women happy because it's in your own personal (sexual) interests isn't all that noble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 01:11 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Do you believe Red Pillers when they tell you they are not misogynists and just want to help men improve themselves?For the most part? No. Some RP people are reasonable but there's nothing in RP that hasn't been said before. The only unique element to RP is the hate and bigotry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP - How Would You Regulate the SMP?You both consent to potentially creating a baby when you have sex. A woman isn't consenting to an abortion by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 01:07 PM |
| 0 | Q4RP - How Would You Regulate the SMP?If you flip it around, it's just as 'unfair' but is also less practical. By virtue of it being the woman's body and not the man's, the woman gets to choose whether or not she opts for an abortion (if it's even available). Both consent to the risks inherent in sex, but women just happen to have an option men don't due to their biology. You can't get someone pregnant and then expect them to abort, relieving yourself of responsibility if they don't. That line of thinking assumes that abortion is an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP - How Would You Regulate the SMP?I don't see how women get bailed out of anything more than men do. It's pretty equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/17 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Do Feminists Shut Down Debate and Discussion?There are idiots all over. Some people on the left fully give into horeshoe and end up authoritarian. Feminism itself isn't the issue, it's the extreme and very vocal fringe adherents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 11:22 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on today's Women's March on Washington?Trump personally hasn't done anything much yet, but these are protests based on what he said he would do in office. The implications for planned patenthood are a fairly direct and pressing issue for feminists. Coupled with statements he's made about women, I think it's incredibly understandable that these peotests exist. Not to mention he's barely had a decent policy idea. Or stuck to one at all for long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/17 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Are you a believer of the "Men shouldn't hit women" mentality?People shouldn't hit eachother period. The reasons, for me, that it's more often said that way around are: men are more often seen to physically abuse partners (it's probably more common, but male victims still come forward less) and that men are generally more able to cause harm to a woman than the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 03:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "The sexual marketplace" model is overly reductiveI underatand them fine, thanks. With economics you're seeing trends and patterns. Not individuals. You generalise because you can't possibly account for everyone's differences. Psychology does the same thing in theory. In practice you have time to concentrate on an individual when it's used for mental health applications, and only informs you in broad strokes as a research object. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Why can't women just say they like Chads/Alpha Males/Bad Boys?Physically attractive women turn me off if I don't like them. Can kill erections. Your experience of male sexuality isn't the definitive one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 12:39 PM |
| 2 | Why can't women just say they like Chads/Alpha Males/Bad Boys?Not all women do. Some are indifferent. Some women only like alphas. Appearance is 90% of attractiveness to some women and 20% to others. Why can't you just say...."Yea, we like Chads. We like Bad Boys. We like Alpha Males. Deal with it". Plenty women do. Men say...."Yea, we like big breasts. Yea, we like nice asses. Yea, we like sexy women". Not all men do. This is what is known as people having preferences. We aren't all the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 12:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "The sexual marketplace" model is overly reductiveIt can and often should. Social sciences are used to give broad strokes and highlight systemic issues. They aren't very useful for guiding someone's love life. If you stereotype groups in your personal life you just end up missing opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 12:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "The sexual marketplace" model is overly reductiveThe entirety of TRP is reductive. That's almost its intention. When you boil things down, what patterns do you see? I think it's the wrong way of doing things because people are far more complicated than that. You miss the human factor. Generalisations get is nowhere. That's the main difference I see between red and blue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/17 03:55 PM |
| 1 | BP's hyperfocus and fixation on the spergs, FAs, and neckbeards of RP shows that they (BP) are not serious about having a debate about the merits of RP strategies but rather just want to mock and abuse low-SMV men.No, BP people just tend to jump on these kinds of people when they spout offensive views. And they often do. There's plenty of conversation here that goes on completely unrelated to putting low SMV men down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/17 03:49 PM |
| 1 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Your joke might be funny if it was anywhere near true. Being so divorced from reality and bathed in ignorance you can only roll your eyes at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?Taxes pay for all sorts of things, the majority of which only ever benefit the majority indirectly. Setting aside that places like planned parenthood do directly service men too, taxes only function because they redistribute money to where it's needed. Whether it directly goes to things you use is irrelevant and missing the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:18 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?Putting taxpayer money into this kind of thing is cheaper for the taxpayer in the long run because it helps avoid bigger issues with unwanted children and all the cost to society (and the treasury) that comes with that. If we only paid taxes into things everyone used equally then we'd not have the standard of living that we do. It all benefits everyone indirectly. Failing to appreciate that just highlights the kind of selfishness that can only hold us back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?The only social structures dissolving are ones we weren't benefiting from anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?That does sound nice but it doesn't work like that. Poverty leads to a bigger problem, cutting welfare will only stick you down that hole and leave many poor, deprived and worse off all at the same time. Terrible outcomes in practice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?Thinking of marriage in those terms is overly utilitarian and even a bit manipulative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:07 PM |
| 0 | If the goverment is to fund birth control, implying safe sex is a human right on the level of healthcare and education, why should it also not fund brothels and self improvement courses?How is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:01 PM |
| 2 | If the goverment is to fund birth control, implying safe sex is a human right on the level of healthcare and education, why should it also not fund brothels and self improvement courses?Contraception ties very closely into health care. Sex education and contraception, particularly barrier contraceptives, play a role in reducing the transmission of diseases and in preventing unwanted pregnancies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 01:45 PM |
| 1 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?If you can't see the difference between your statement there and people, shockingly, being unique then you have bigger issues than a conversation on a subreddit can remedy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 01:38 PM |
| 0 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Yes really. The sort of people who can only make sense of the world by compartmentalising everything are not only mentally challenged but actively disadvantaging themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 11:41 AM |
| 0 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?That's not insane, it's logical. At best your stereotypes are going to fail you a significant minority of the time. It's just not worth it. Men and women are far more similar than they are different, a much better strategy is just actually treating people like individuals instead of relying on sketchy generalisations. It's got the added benefit if avoiding prejudice, intentional or otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 11:34 AM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] How do transgender people factor into your view?While you definitely get people thinking they're trans when they're not, we don't have much way to tell how prevalent that is at all. It's all conjecture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 11:31 AM |
| 5 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?It doesn't lose all meaning. It's just incredibly murky to the point where it isn't worth using for generalisations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 04:36 PM |
| 2 | If feminists believe that men and women are exactly the same why do they differentiate between the sexes and genders?You're massively confusing equality of opportunity and outcome at times here, and it seems you don't have much of an idea about what people are actually suggesting either. But yeah, peoples actual rights trump your perceived right to discrimination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Liberals of PPD, why are you a liberal?If you honestly believe that then you need to look at the facts. The muslim population is arond 5% in many European countries and not predicted to go higher than 10% in most either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 10:32 AM |
| 3 | If feminists believe that men and women are exactly the same why do they differentiate between the sexes and genders?Liberals aren't trying to police thoughts, they're addressing inequality that surprisingly enough does actually exist. Think what you want so long as you aren't harming others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 03:27 PM |
| 4 | Liberals of PPD, why are you a liberal?Can't is the important word there. There are genuinely people who can't provide for themselves or their families due to circumstances out of their control, or due to government policy. A lot of people don't seem to want to accept that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 10:31 AM |
| 2 | Liberals of PPD, why are you a liberal?I wish this was a more prevalent stance. Yeah, I disagree with conservative economics but I can definitely see where you're coming from. There's room for policy compromise or a possibility of non-partisan cooperation on these sorts of issues. Debating with social conservatism is like hitting a brick wall comparatively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 10:29 AM |
| 4 | Liberals of PPD, why are you a liberal?Places manage to treat their people better than, say, the US and do it fairly efficiently. Particularly when you're talking about crime, healthcare or drug laws, it definitely ends up both cheaper and more effective doing it the liberal way - even in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/17 10:26 AM |
| 3 | TBP is a hate sub: An exampleIt's a bit more complex than that but, to a point, yeah. Being a Muslim is just as much a cultural thing as it is a religious one and, as much as religion should be between someone and their god, it rarely works out that way. Take religion in the UK as an example and a majority of people on the census identify as Christian, yet over 50% of people say they don't believe in god. There are people all over the world ready to identify with a religious group on cultural grounds. That said, it isn't ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/17 04:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.That's the visible part of uni culture. A lot of people just keep their head down and study. They just aren't a very visible group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/16 05:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no safe way to have drunk sex with someone you have never met before.To answer the question in the title, no there isn't. People are at too much risk of accidentally going too far or failing to notice warning signs. As for that specific case, there was further incriminating evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/16 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Who is more dramatic, men or women? Who is easier to please?Neither, really. Humanity is anything but homogenous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/16 05:12 PM |
| 4 | Let's talk about what feminism and feminists in general envision their end goal to be as far as their movement for equality, universal peace, and the improvement of the working and living conditions of women are concerned.Reproductive rights, prevalence of sexual assault, domestic violence, stereotyping, pay gap. Especially with a president elect that's so backwards on abortion, the first is rather important. Violence against women is a real issue, in both the sexual sense and in terms of domestic abuse, and is more prevalent than similar attacks against men. That makes it a specific gender issue. And equality laws mean nothing if they aren't being followed. The evidence is that employers most often pick the man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/16 10:25 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.Stay ignorant if you want. What makes you think Feminism isn't a movement for equality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 05:37 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.A common idea I see in college and many other places is that women feel that liberation comes from partying, getting drunk, smoking pot, and not giving a shit about what happens tomorrow. That this is some sort of rebellion towards societal systems that "oppress" people. Men also do this, but I see the connection with sex more so with women. They believe that they can liberate themselves from the shackles of society like this. The idea of feminism is that people that want to do this can, and peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?I don't know, but by concentrating on just that you're missing the bigger picture - it's not a gender specific phenomenon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"That sounds very immature to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Why is seeing two hot women engaging in lesbian acts so hot?I don't think there is a difference, and it's basically impossible to prove that there is one. Lots of women find gay acts hot, lots of men find lesbian acts hot. No-one can do more than guess the prevalence of that. Personally it's not my thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"Why would being rejected mean you don't want to be friends with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"Well, I just said platonic. You can be friends with women, you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"There are reasons to continue talking to them that are platonic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 01:50 PM |
| 3 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleYou act as if it isn't subtle. Pretending that peer pressure doesn't affect how men see masculinity, and how male role models impact gender role ideals, runs contrary to everything we know about the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 02:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The idea that being attracted to a girl primarily for her body is "dehumanizing" destroys a man's confidence and sexuality.Do you seriously believe the existence of porn proves men are shallow? How delightful it must be to see people as that one dimensional. You'd hardly need to think at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 09:50 AM |
| 2 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleYou obviously never actually looked at what the definition of patriarchy is, did you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 09:49 AM |
| 6 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleFeminism hasn't been actively combating any men's rights at all. I don't know nor care who originally forced my male gender roles on me. Other men are the primary enforcers of masculinity. The same is often true for women and femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 09:48 AM |
| 2 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleYou might want to check the definition of the word before you suggest I'm wrong for using it that way. Similarly most of what you're attributing to feminism has nothing to do with it. Patriarchy specifically benefits a subset of powerful men who enforce their rule over everyone else. It is to the benefit of those individuals that people are kept in line by gender roles. While women are the obvious victims, men lose out as well: the suicide issue being a good example, along with war and conscript… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 09:45 AM |
| 6 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleI mran, I literally just mentioned the suffragettes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Will Donald Trump Being President Make Red Pill Views More Mainstream?The difference isn't that great but it does exist. More importantly, it exists despite greater social spending. All of the provisions that the right wing in America oppose fail to weigh down liberal countries who even outperform the US in key areas. I thought you meant people. In the UK it's basically the same. We don't pay anything but our tax towards covering health care. The NHS has issues right now, but it's not just about cost: the outcomes are similar for a smaller price. Social healthcare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 08:01 AM |
| 5 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleA tiny number of them send death threats, in much the same way that men do in similar situations. It's not representative and in no way relevant either. If protest is hurting their business then that's a reflection of attitude. The fact is that people are listening to, and agreeing with, those protesters instead of the MRAs trying to hold the meetings. That isn't exactly unexpected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:54 AM |
| 3 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleThese are your words. Directly quoted. You clearly compared the two, but if you want to play semantics and pretend you didn't, be my guest. Yeah, go ahead and miss out the entire middle section. It's not as if that's important. I'm not moving posts, I didn't even place them to begin with - I didn't make a value statement. Comparing outcomes is not comparing ethics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:51 AM |
| 6 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleI said nothing about nobility or emulation, you assumed it. Putting words in people's mouths doesn't make you particularly smart or persuasive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:43 AM |
| 5 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleI didn't cherry pick anything, I even drew a contrast between then and now. Maybe you missed that in your rush to imagine holes in my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:37 AM |
| 5 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleYou're allowed to do any of that. No one is stopping you. If you're afraid of people disagreeing with you publicly then maybe MRAs are a bit too sensitive for protest and should leave it to people with thicker skin. This just rings of the whole fake 'War on Christmas' thing to me. Like, male oriented barber shops exist. I'm sure you can find an example where one was 'forced' to close but they do exist. I went to one a few months ago, nice trim. Similarly, counter protests happen. Deal with it. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:35 AM |
| 2 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleI didn't forget anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:30 AM |
| 1 | Will Donald Trump Being President Make Red Pill Views More Mainstream?Again, the EU figure is dragged down substantially by some member states. I did point that out. Other member states are even further ahead of the US with the greatest differences seen in the most liberal countries. This is just further establishing my point. Why would you ask for examples of it when you even admit of it happening? Kinda confusing I ask for examples because there's nothing to suggest the figures aren't equally as reliable anywhere else. The homelessness figures are fairly accurat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The idea that being attracted to a girl primarily for her body is "dehumanizing" destroys a man's confidence and sexuality.Don't pretend that your particular, shallow definition of male sexuality stretches to all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:18 AM |
| 4 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleThis is full of holes. And if you look at Europe they even have a quota on this which really has only harmed companies as they are forced to promote under qualified women to meet the requirements by law. Please don't try to make Europe out to be a homogenous unit. It's a continent. There's like 50 countries on it. With that aside, even though quotas aren't my first choice, they've hardly been damaging. Look at the Canadian cabinet: 50/50 split and qualified to a standard that the US and UK shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:15 AM |
| 6 | The Men Feminists Left Behind - ArticleProtest, march, strike. Look at the suffragettes - that's effective opposition that lead to real change. Modern feminists can also be found heading charities, support groups, think tanks, lobby groups... even university societies. Those are things that lead to change. Men's rights has a long way to go to get there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/16 05:01 AM |
| 5 | CMV: The idea that being attracted to a girl primarily for her body is "dehumanizing" destroys a man's confidence and sexuality.Sleeping around snd valuing someone based entirely on their physical attributes are different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 10:29 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The idea that being attracted to a girl primarily for her body is "dehumanizing" destroys a man's confidence and sexuality.Good job they do then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Will Donald Trump Being President Make Red Pill Views More Mainstream?Barely least by OECD data. I'm not sure what you mean? By pretty much anyone's reckoning the top spot for productivity is taken by a European state. Not gonna lie, the USA is up there too but there are definitely places that do it better. OECD data for 2015 puts the entire Eurozone ahead of the USA in productivity though. With parts of it obviously dragging down the average. Their homeless and more so poverty and jobless rates are often fudged to look better than they are. Can you give an exampl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 10:55 PM |
| 1 | The existence of Tinder mostly proves TRP theory rightTinder is a visually focused, hookup oriented app. Of course success using it is highly dependent on appearance and snap decisions. That speaks of nothing but its intended function. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 06:17 PM |
| 2 | The existence of Tinder mostly proves TRP theory rightThere's no reason to think it does. I had hoped we were past the point where anyone still saw the necessity in judging people by their 'worth' or 'value'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Will Donald Trump Being President Make Red Pill Views More Mainstream?Probably should care. Liberal democracies in Europe manage lower crime rates, higher productivity, reduced recidivism, greater equality, smaller wage gaps and greater self reported happiness than the US. They manage to do this and have a competent, realistic strategy on drugs with lower rates of addiction. They manage lower homelessness and support/shelters for those who are. Free and cheaper healthcare per head. Europe gets plenty right and plenty wrong, just like America does. It's wise for us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 01:17 PM |
| 1 | The existence of Tinder mostly proves TRP theory rightHypergamy doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean the above can't be true as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/16 11:14 AM |
| 2 | The Power of EmotionYeah, empathy is great if you can get it but realising that someone's suffering is beyond your experience can be important. Sympathy is great too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 08:46 PM |
| 2 | The Power of EmotionBut they won't be able understand what it is like to have an intense non-reactive sex drive that is continuously rejected. I'm a man and I don't understand this either, and I'm not particularly feminine. This isn't about gender, and I don't think what you're describing is the norm for most men either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/16 08:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.We work with what we have. That's all you can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 01:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women.Men are more likely to gravitate to extremes than women. While pretty much everything you say is true, men are also likely to achieve above female counterparts at the top end. That's from sport, through science and even right to cooking. Women, on the other hand, tend toward the middle ground. Ultimately it isn't wise to judge men based on their sex, just as it isn't wise to generalise women for theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Aware me on women and men friendshipsThat's mostly the same for me but I do have one or two male friends I'm close to. One is gay if that counts for much. It is possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Aware me on women and men friendshipsIt isn't a gender thing, nor is it to do with sexual attraction. People tend to assume that you're more competent, nicer and more trustworthy if you look good. That gives a leg up in lots of things - from gaining employment to getting served first at a bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/16 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Study shows that the 80/20 rule is more of a 66/33 ruleI can't really agree with any of that at all. For one, it generalises women to a cartoonish extent and completely ignores the majority of men who end up with partners. For the most part, couples that have similar levels of physical attractiveness stay together. Also, we don't live in a matriarchy. If anything, power is still more in the hands of men - even if that is a subset of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: what is the "bluepill sexual strategy"?The best way to attract women is not to try and attract them at all. Just work on yourself, know what you want and what you're willing to give. That isn't to say that you shouldn't put yourself in situations where you're more likely to find someone but if you just spend your time searching it starts to define you too much and just reeks of desperation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Study shows that the 80/20 rule is more of a 66/33 ruleYeah, perhaps I shouldn't have used specifically :P I am happy that today's households are more often balanced power wise. Being a stay at home dad isn't the usual situation, but it doesn't turn heads like it used to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Study shows that the 80/20 rule is more of a 66/33 ruleNot that I've ever heard, at least not exactly. In patriarchy it's everyone except specifically powerful men that suffer. That's why it's patriarchy and not just androarchy or whatever, it's men in powerful positions keeping everyone else down. In fact, I'd say that it's often these days men that are most likely to suffer with those institutions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 03:43 PM |
| 0 | Study shows that the 80/20 rule is more of a 66/33 ruleJust because one extreme form of oppression is worse than another kind, that doesn't invalidate the suffering caused. This is also exactly what is meant by patriarchy adversely affecting most men as it does women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Where is the best place to meet potential partners?It depends entirely on you and what you're in to, as well as what you're looking for in a partner. For example, you might meet a goth switch into BDSM at a club, but I think you'll have better luck elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 07:44 PM |
| 1 | BP is either in serious denial or is deliberately downplaying female hypergamy, 80/20, and the cock-carousel in an effort to defend female sexual strategy.Hypergamy isn't the experience of most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 10:05 AM |
| 1 | The majority of men on the streets I see are unattractive, but...That behaviour is neither unique to or more prevalent in women. Your morals are, however, pretty unique if you don't see a wide gulf between the morality of infidelity and serial monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 10:00 AM |
| 1 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofYou can soend your whole life in a small town and never meet most of the people. Its not got as much to do with proximity as it does where you spend your time and what you do. Two people on the same street often end up with social circles completely alien to one another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/16 09:58 AM |
| 2 | Ask BP: What exactly is BP dating advice?This. If anything having the gym be your hobby is off putting to the majority of women I know. Its how you end up looking and not how physically fit you are. Especially unattractive to be a gym nerd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:12 AM |
| 2 | Ask BP: What exactly is BP dating advice?Pointing out the (many) flaws in a retarded ideology has intrinsic value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:08 AM |
| 2 | The majority of men on the streets I see are unattractive, but...Gay men are the highest risk group for infidelity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:06 AM |
| 1 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofIf you're talking about scraping the barrel here, the same applies to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:05 AM |
| 1 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofhave been through countless women, I have got to personally know thousands of women, the story is the same, they function the same. They may use different words but they follow the same script at the end of the day, with the outliers being BPD and other crazy chicks who have serious Daddy Issues. Women youve encountered are a specific group, though. There's no reason to think that anecdote translates to women generally. It's also based on your observation and so is second hand. For example, I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:04 AM |
| 2 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofThat's complete nonsense. SMV is barely even a coherent concept as is, no need to muddy the waters further with that prattle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:51 PM |
| 3 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofWomen need far more than that. For the most part everyone has these pressures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:49 PM |
| 3 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofThis is important to reiterate. Online dating suffers here specifically because it's so visually focused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:47 PM |
| 4 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofPlenty of men worse off than an 8 so fine, though. Perhaps due to a fortuitous lack of that pessimism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:46 PM |
| 11 | 80 percent of men are unattractive. Another proofThe thing is that men are much the same. At their base people are just biological machines trying to get by. We filter out those things because, by and large, we try to be moral. We're still animals though. If the above comment worries you it's important to remember that not everyone is just out for themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:45 PM |
| 1 | I know quite a few so-called "alpha males" and they are not exactly what TRP thinks they should be.I'm not using it as an argument against, I'm just happy most people aren't that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 03:39 PM |
| 0 | I know quite a few so-called "alpha males" and they are not exactly what TRP thinks they should be.Some people are saying that, sure. The whole manosphere is still saturated with misogynistic dicks regardless. It might not be the 'official' line but the ideals definitely attract that sort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 10:03 AM |
| 1 | I know quite a few so-called "alpha males" and they are not exactly what TRP thinks they should be.Basically my problem with it. Self improvement is fine, pseudo-scientific psychology to justify misogyny isn't. TRP takes a good idea snd packages it with turds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 10:01 AM |
| 1 | I know quite a few so-called "alpha males" and they are not exactly what TRP thinks they should be.Ordinary people get by fine. Most men at least end up with partners. Red pillers or people that 'need' it are a minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 09:56 AM |
| 2 | Can't this whole dating-debate be summed up by: Gender roles have evolved massively, but dating-standards remain unchangedI think this definitely has some truth to it, but it's not the only thing going on. I think TRP focuses more on trends and generalisations where BP sees the individual angle, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 12:39 PM |
| 1 | This is Why Guys Give up on DatingSome women actively pursue powerful men, others don't mind but like it and others still are actually put off by it. That's the same for money, for intelligence, for experience... for anything really. Even physical attractiveness, which is very often a big deal, can take a back seat for some women. Yes, luck is always involved. Having traits that attract the largest number of potential partners gives you a greater chance but you still have to have that luck and find someone you just click with. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 01:11 PM |
| 3 | This is Why Guys Give up on DatingIntelligence definitely can be a big deal in attraction. And wisdom. I know it is personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 01:04 PM |
| 6 | CMV: If a woman is not attracted to you, then she will mention a boyfriend.Isn't that a textbook example of mentioning something relevant? I'd bring my girlfriend up there if I had that conversation too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 12:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If a woman is not attracted to you, then she will mention a boyfriend.In the exact same way that I often mention my girlfriend in conversation, women bring up their partners because they find them interesting and relevant. That's exactly like anything else important to a person. It doesn't have to be and most often isn't anything more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 12:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Catcalling is a valid sexual strategyIt's going to put off women far more frequently than it attracts them. In fact, it's such a shit method no one would suggest it seriously - you're better off putting that effort elsewhere. Now, disregarding that, it's a shitty thing to do anyway. At best you're making someone uncomfortable and at worst you're harassing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/16 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"It's not so one sided, you both agree to share and in many cases it's the woman who's the breadwinner these days. I don't doubt it's different to a business contract, but it's still more similar to that than to ownership. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"What it initially might have been has very little bearing on what it is now. Partnerships often come with contracts. In fact, that's very common. Look at business. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"A partnership. Why would it be ownership? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Learning social/dating skills for "normies" and "autists" is like native vs. foreign language acquisitionIn this case though what can you reasonsbly do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"That isn't what marriage is either, but regardless plenty more people just cohabit now that marriage isn't pushed on people so hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Learning social/dating skills for "normies" and "autists" is like native vs. foreign language acquisitionWhile that's true, it's still right morally and practically to punish people for those crimes because they are still wrong. Circumstances can lead people to something for sure, but it's like you can lead a horse to water... People are still ultimately responsible for their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 12:34 PM |
| 1 | Learning social/dating skills for "normies" and "autists" is like native vs. foreign language acquisitionI've been there and that's what I did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 08:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Corporations have programmed men into being shy reclusive betas who are awkward around women.Alternatively, you could just use games to relax and catch up with friends that aren't geographically close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 03:31 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Corporations have programmed men into being shy reclusive betas who are awkward around women.I don't think porn or games make men sedentary. Games can also be good for social skills. For example, the only time I play really at all is with friends. That's increasingly common. Any of these things can potentially be damaging but almost anything is in excess. The demand for fast food wasnt artificially created - there have akways been people who ate in excess - it's just that people in general can afford these things more readily now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Learning social/dating skills for "normies" and "autists" is like native vs. foreign language acquisitionI agree that's how most people think and we all have a certain degree of selfishness. For me, though, I'd rather be sad and lonely than resort to that simply because I'd know I was an arse otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/16 03:01 AM |
| 1 | My literary agent loves when feminist censor me and ban meAre you deluded or trolling? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Learning social/dating skills for "normies" and "autists" is like native vs. foreign language acquisitionWhat if he only gets laid when he lifts, has abundance mentality, has a DGAF attitude and treats women like they are replaceable? Why should he stop when he is getting rewarded for doing so? For some greater good of humanity? I could understand someone being tempted to be that way, and most TRP advice is just self improvement - but if you resort to lies, manipulations and acting like a dick then it's still wrong even when it gets results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/16 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Guys: Where do you meet girls if you don't drink and you're not going to school?Through interests. Meeting people at a bar or through work is a tossup - you have to just hope you find yourself in a situation where the people around you are compatable. If you meet through shared interests instead you have a lot more of a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/16 10:03 AM |
| 0 | Women Want To Be Approached, But Want To Feel Like It "Just Happened".A majority of men find partners. A majority of men are not Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Why are Blue Pillers so passionate about defending single mothers?Because society includes you and them both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Why are Blue Pillers so passionate about defending single mothers?Sometimes but it often goes the other way too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Why are Blue Pillers so passionate about defending single mothers?Maybe cheaper long term but a lot of people don't have that kind of money to hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Why are Blue Pillers so passionate about defending single mothers?Most single mothers? Where are you pulling that from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:04 PM |
| 3 | Why are Blue Pillers so passionate about defending single mothers?Belief isn't something you choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 04:03 PM |
| 5 | Women Want To Be Approached, But Want To Feel Like It "Just Happened".Women want to be approached by people that they might be interested in, just as men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 03:57 PM |
| 4 | discussion - Does Patriarchy still exist?It's not that we have a system that forces patriarchy on us, it's that the system we have is dominated by men. As time moves on and the dinosaurs die off it gets more equal. Unfortunately, what keeps men in top positions is that it's already men in top positions. For elected people it's more a case that there are fewer women with the experience to run for offices. That's a symptom of fewer women entering those fields. But the only barriers women experience today are with prejudice and social att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/16 10:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual Objectification is a beneficial to all women except unattractive women.Unfortunately yes. Whether this makes it difficult for a woman to progress or an attractive petson gets the job instead of the most competent candidate, it's not fair and a subject of our own biases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/16 11:13 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual Objectification is a beneficial to all women except unattractive women.Often, if you're being valued solely for your looks, people won't take you seriously. For others it's just a good way to get your foot in the door. I've experienced both. It's not a black and white, advantage or disadvantage scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Virtue SignalingIt's not just a few people disagreeing. It's the mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/16 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Can someone explain what "sexualizing" someone means?I think that's missing the point. The complaint generally is that women are nore likely to be judged for their sex appeal. Someone might comment on how a male businessman is strong willed, intelligent or astute. A similarly performing woman os just as likely to see comments on her sex appeal, what she's wearing or gossip about her private life. The same thing happens to a lot of men, especially with celebrities, but it's very common for women no matter what they do. When it's said they aren't be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Virtue SignalingWhich is precisely what I was suggesting. Well done for getting the point. I explicitly state that the idea that it's ubiquitous is patchy at best - as in, the person I'm commenting about has assumed it is, but the only thing we know for certain is that different people appear to have had entirely diffetent experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Do hardcore gamers hate women?Using games to escape from women? I use them to have fun with my friends regardless of their gender. I thought that was just what people did. Now that voice chat is more common it's not the case that you have to out yourself either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 12:45 PM |
| 1 | You know the whole "slob guys are matched with hot women in sitcoms" complaint..I see enough of these relationships in reality to see something in it - Though I can't get in their heads, they seem attracted to each other. I dont think it necessarily has much to do with gender roles because I see it reversed too. Most relationships do seem to have someone settling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/16 11:45 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Virtue SignalingYeah, the idea that this kind of advice was ubiquitous is pretty ridiculous. I most certainly wasn't raised that way, and I don't know anyone who was, so it's patchy at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/16 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Is there any real evidence that catcalling is a huge societal problem affecting women?I'm a Feminist and I think this is how most of us reason it. Catcalling is a symptom and not a cause - changing social attitudes has helped lower its frequency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What is in this allegeded "Blue Pill Brainwashing" and where does it come from?None of that would mean you'd won an argument, it'd just mean you're a socially inept dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 10:30 AM |
| 0 | Q4RP: What is in this allegeded "Blue Pill Brainwashing" and where does it come from?Considering that red pill behaviours and ideas are seen as unusual, it's probably not the best way to try and learn normal human socialisation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/16 10:27 AM |
| 1 | ELI5: Why does being a Trump supporter automatically make you a garbage human being?Most people that are worse off aren't worse off because of the way ACA works, but because those prices were going to rise anyway. Very much, the poor are better off but the middle and rich are worse off and that's worth it? Yes, it is - I don't know where you got your morals from, but I think it's heartless to leave anyone without provision. The American healthcare system is incredibly inefficient, costing the government more per head than similarly performing (or better performing) systems in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 07:44 PM |
| 1 | ELI5: Why does being a Trump supporter automatically make you a garbage human being?I agree, it has a multitude of problems. It still covers more people than removing it, as he said he would the moment he took office. He actually sounded very... liberal when he was praising the Canadian and Scottish systems but talk of that has since faded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 05:42 PM |
| 2 | ELI5: Why does being a Trump supporter automatically make you a garbage human being?Trump has some pretty horrific ideas about governance. Putting aside his personal views, plans of his like scrappimg the ACA will directly and immediately negatively affect people. Real people. When you're talking about taking health insurance away from people who need it then that is pretty unforgivable tbh. ACA was watered down nonsense but short sighted, sweeping changes are far worse. That will define his term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 02:48 PM |
| 1 | ELI5: Why does being a Trump supporter automatically make you a garbage human being?It's pretty natural to be intolerant of intolerant views and policies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 02:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being short is not a death sentence in terms of dating.Again, your experience. Mine differs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 02:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Being short is not a death sentence in terms of dating.Is what my friends all over the world report. Hardly representative is it? You're pulling it out of your arse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/16 07:14 AM |
| 2 | [CMV] Women find care and compassion to be unattractiveYou have been. Consistently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/16 10:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Being short is not a death sentence in terms of dating.Every Couple I see is the guy being easily 6 to 8 inches taller than the girl.. and the tall girls are all with giants. Anecdote. And one that is personally untrue in my own experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/16 10:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Being short is not a death sentence in terms of dating.Nope, it is what it says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 06:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Being short is not a death sentence in terms of dating.Money and fitness are overrated so far as attractiveness is concerned. Having a great personality means mountains more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/16 01:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If being pumped and dumped is validating for women, then getting orbiter friendzoned is validating for men. (Spoiler: Neither of these things are validating.)No, not completely. But it's true that women do not necessarily try to improve their appearance for men, or at least for male validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 06:07 PM |
| 1 | What is the perfect wife in your eyes?If you think that's appropriate, go on doing it - I feel for the people that have to suffer you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men - Would you enjoy an orgasm you didn't want while drunk?No indeed, you do see it but sensible people (like yourself) appreciate that it's fringe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4feminists: why are these facts ignored?That's not only an assumption, but a dumb one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 10:09 AM |
| 0 | Q4feminists: why are these facts ignored?We instead are forced to argue about problems that aren't even real.. wage gap, which toilet to piss in, Muh pronouns! and mayonnaise is now a gender.. Incorrect and reductionary. The pay gap still exists when accounting for work hours, qualifications etc... the latter two arent even strictly 'female' issues but your attempt at trivialising trans discrimination. If there was/is a patriarchy this massive shift to man-hate would have been impossible but here we are... Betrays your lack of understa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 10:08 AM |
| 2 | The female messaging to men regarding dating is functionally spraying pesticideReads like conspiracy theory bullshit. Mostly because it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 10:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If being pumped and dumped is validating for women, then getting orbiter friendzoned is validating for men. (Spoiler: Neither of these things are validating.)Not true at all. It can be, but not always. See women's fashion: primarily tailored towards other women and often very different to what they'd choose to appeal to men. Many fashion trends are even completely misunderstood or hated by the men they could want to attract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Do men really like smart women?Women watch porn produced and marketed at men, meaning that they watch all of those sub-genres to an extent. To what extent? Hard to tell. Surveys on pornography consumption are naturally difficult to sample. The picture is murky because: There is a greater stigma on women consuming porn Fewer women consume porn Women consume 'male' porn Women consume 'female' porn Women can enjoy the same scenes for potentially different reasons Sexual preferences vary greatly from person to person That all mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 09:34 AM |
| 2 | What is the perfect wife in your eyes?Fags? How about you spare me the homophobia? Yeah, it does actually mean they aren't women's hobbies when men are also taking part in them, by definition. It's not hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/16 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Do men really like smart women?People are more complex than that, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 05:30 AM |
| 5 | Do men really like smart women?That doesn't really suggest much. Porn marketed at women isn't the only (or even the most prevalent) porn that women consume. There's a lot going on there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 05:28 AM |
| 3 | What is the perfect wife in your eyes?Because many of us do appreciate the hobbies of women in our lives. I know I do. There are also no specifically female hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 05:21 AM |
| 3 | This is What Red Pill is Trying to Explain IMHOSome people are dicks. Accepting that without having it enforce an ideology is healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 03:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The sexuality of Omega males is seen as inherently disgusting.That isn't the world owing anything, that's mutual betterment of society by spending taxes in a productive way. It's not only a moral thing but it's to the benefit of the majority. Individuals owe nothing in particular to any other single individual - that's a more accurate, if less concise, statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 11:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The sexuality of Omega males is seen as inherently disgusting.It's pretty normal for it to be seen that way - if no-one wants to have sex with you, why would they want to imagine you having those desires? The fear will be that you could have thoughts/fantasies about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 11:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Intelligence plays no role in sexual attraction.Intelligence is more than just IQ and college level qualifications. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 11:02 AM |
| 3 | This is What Red Pill is Trying to Explain IMHOBeen burned, huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/16 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Why do anti-feminists think that being able to choose your identity freely destroys identities?I still think you're identifying extreme feminism. What basic premises do you think fail to stand up to pragmatism? Quite frankly, the basis of Feminism is incredibly sound. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/16 12:37 AM |
| 6 | Q4RP: How common is this dynamic?Yeah, there is normally some truth in humour. It's quite self assuring to know that you could have married for wealth or an easy life but you turned it down anyway. It's got a feel-good moral factor to it. I have seen women in particular turn down those opportunities to be provided for materially - the fact that there's a temptation gives some evidence for typical red pill thought, but the fact that 'love' (whatever it is :P) triumphs so often is a very hopeful and beautiful thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If being pumped and dumped is validating for women, then getting orbiter friendzoned is validating for men. (Spoiler: Neither of these things are validating.)Women don't necessarily want to look attractive for any shared, specific reason. I would suggest it really often isn't to 'boost their SMV'. I've known girls dress up as if they're going out just to clean their house. No one sees them, they just like to feel attractive for themselves. It's far more complex for most people than just trying to look good then feeling happy when someone confirms that for you. It's about the intended audience, the way it comes across and sometimes it's even just habi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Why do anti-feminists think that being able to choose your identity freely destroys identities?Most organisations tend to get characterised by their extremes. There are bad eggs dragging down everyone in some way - whether that's the far left's tendency toward anti-semitism or turning a blind eye on Russia, or the far right's religious fundamentalism or xenophobia. Being skeptical of those fringe feminists (with loud voices) is much the same thing. The majority just aren't like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do anti-feminists think that being able to choose your identity freely destroys identities?Not all Feminists are pro-positive discrimination, though. And not all advocates of positive discrimination are Feminists. It's murky waters. Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome both have potential advantages and disadvantages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:22 PM |
| 12 | Q4RP: How common is this dynamic?Sounds to me that it's just being jovial - poking fun at the gold digger stereotype. You'd know better than I do, but that's what it is most often when I come across it. Rather than framing it with any particular ideology, I'd say that whoever you end up with in monogamy, there are things you're missing out on. Even if you get someone ripped, rich and possessed of an amazing personality there will be someone out there better in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:11 PM |
| 0 | Why do anti-feminists think that being able to choose your identity freely destroys identities?What is there to see, genuinely? I've never really bought that education has become anything like that, judging from personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/16 05:05 PM |
| 0 | BPers, what is male privilege? RPers, what is female privilege?I can, as a white man, go pretty much wherever I want and whenever I want and not experience trouble. I go somewhere with a female/ethnic friend, or my girlfriend, and it's completely different. Cat calling, people coming up trying to touch them, shouting abuse at them, insulting me for being with them... It's genuinely jarring. It's a minority of people that do this but it's often enough that it can be a weekly thing. That's just an example of how it crops up in my every day experience where I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/16 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Have you seriously never done any stupid stuff when you were a teenager?Well, I agree with you until that point at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/16 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Have you seriously never done any stupid stuff when you were a teenager?Someone that might use those kind of manipulations just straight up isn't relationship material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/16 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Explain a feasibly ideal relationshipJust being with someone who appreciates you for who you are, and not necessarily just for what you do or have. I think the best relationships can work with nothing - you can both be broke, down in the dumps and can't see a way out but you still just enjoy being around eachtother. You work as a team, and you truly know that they'd do just as much for you as you would for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/16 02:41 PM |
| 4 | Women should not serve in front-line combat.Studies show that women in combat roles decreases military efficiency, thus potentially leading to more deaths (even for men). Is that when standards are equal? That's also why you don't allow disabled people in combat, elderly people in combat, children, etc. It decreases military efficiency. No, you don't allow them in because they can't meet the standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/16 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Women should not serve in front-line combat.The standards never should have been set differently. It's as simple as that really. There is no good reason to make it easier for women. That said. I do support allowing women in so long as they can meet those standards. It doesn't even matter if no-one passes, that's equality. Disallowing women doesn't sit right with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/16 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Redpill theory is proven because women do not reward BP men in the SMP.Whether you're trying to be nice or trying to act like some kind of alpha, the main thing that matters is legitimacy. Yeah, some women will respond to being treated like shit and others want someone to be 'nice' to them but none of that matters if it comes off as if you're just looking to get something from them. 'Nice guys' are only being nice to try and get sex or whatever and red pillers are trying to act dominant in order to get the same thing. That desperation is the least attractive thing.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/16 11:16 AM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?I've had real life interactions and they do work this way. I have no idea how other people are going about their business, but we can definitely conclude that there are a lot of people out there who feel they've been wronged through inappropriate advances. The thing is that I don't need to dream up anything because, well, that's just my life anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/16 12:55 AM |
| 0 | Women want men to self-rejectWhat makes you think that it's aimed at men specifically? There's no dishonesty here and there's no offloading of responsibility - responsibility always lies with the instigator because that avoids the most harm. Not because there's some kind of agenda, but because it literally makes no sense any other way. The wording of it is gender neutral because it is. Do you seriously think that women don't do their share of approaching these days? It's really fucking common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/16 12:53 AM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?Yes it is relevant. It's irrelevant because equality of opportunity trumps equality of outcome in deciding fairness. First, there's a difference between "approaching" and "propositioning". A semantic difference, I think you know what I'm on about. If you go back and see what I've said, you'll find that I think anything verbal is fine to 'persist' with outside of some extreme circumstances. Following that thread, when I say you have a responsibility not to take it too far, you have to assume that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 02:34 PM |
| 1 | If you woke up the next morning as the opposite gender, how do you think your life will change?I'd probably diddle myself a dozen times and then, when the novelty wore off, I'd just go about everything as normal. Girlfriend might not really like the change though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:50 PM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?It is better. But it's still irrelevant. It doesn't matter who more often does the approaching. If there was suddenly a social shift and it was more typical of women to do that, it still wouldn't matter. The fact of it is that, if you are propositioning someone like that, it is your responsibility not to take it too far. If you are initiating a sex act then it is your responsibility to ensure you have consent. The burden is on WHOEVER chooses to do that, regardless of their gender, and that is e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:47 PM |
| 1 | The Facts Don't Matter.BP: BPers will constantly deny or try to Hamster their way out of OkCupid and Tinder studies that prove women have it much easier than men and usually have higher standards. They will ignore studies that show the wage-gap isn't real and that women aren't really as discriminated against, at-least in the west, as they claim. Neither of these things are true. In the first case, online dating samples are not representative of the wider population. That isn't hamstering out of anything, it's just tru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:44 PM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?You've never been approached by a woman, seen it happen or heard someone mention it happening? It isn't exactly rare, ffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectOne is a person being assaulted, the other is a person choosing to harm another. Which is worse? Besides, 'dangerous' situations are not what most women are in when they find themselves raped. It's completely ridiculous to expect that a woman can't dress how she wants or go to venues that they want without being shamed by idiots for the actions of actually disgusting people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Trump supporters shouldn't be shamedTrump is a pretty despicable man himself, but you could imagine people supporting him based on his policies. However, his policies are pretty horrid as well. The kind of people that support that stuff are generally not very nice people because those views are awful. Shaming people though? Probably not worthwhile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 01:32 PM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?Yeah, they are - but they have the exact same rules to follow here. That's equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 11:46 AM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?You keep phrasing this as a male and female difference but I've already said it applies to people equally. As soon as someone says no, or if you initiate a sex act without getting consent first, then you're in the wrong if you continue. It really is that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 11:08 AM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?Rejection is NOT the burden of a man, it's the burden of someone doing the approaching. That might normally be a man, depending on where you are and that, but there is no inequality here to speak of. The same applies to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 10:56 AM |
| 1 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?The only thing you have to respect is someone's rights. You know, not to be touched, harassed, worse... It's pretty easy to do and those rules apply just as equally to men as they do to women. You can be a dick about women if you want. You aren't gonna get locked up for it. Exercise your free speech to your heart's content. It's just categorically wrong that women don't have to follow the same rules though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 10:54 AM |
| 2 | What are Women's "Responsibilities" in Rejecting Men?There are no obligations or responsibilities for anyone, really, outside of respecting someone's rights and freedoms. Someone's wishes, however, are a completely different thing that don't on their own deserve any special treatment. I think it's pretty common sense, really. You can say what you like to who you like. With that said, there is no burden on someone being approached to do anything other than reject an advance. No further action should be the responsibility of that person. So, if you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectThat is exactly the idea. You can end up raping someone if you don't make sure you have consent. Notice that this is gender neutral - it's just that men seem to more often either misread or initiate sex so more often than not this burden falls to them. In reality, that's just asking anyone who's initiating sex to be sure they have consent. It's not all about reducing the incidence of rape, it's about respecting people's freedoms and rights. You could prevent rape quite well by locking everyone i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectI think you're misunderstanding the use of that 'fallacy' - do you have any reason at all to believe that this is a widespread belief? I'm not trying to say that this is somehow not 'true' sentiment. It's simply that there's absolutely no reason to believe that this is a prevalent belief yet you seem to anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/16 09:55 AM |
| 0 | Women want men to self-rejectThat's just absolute nonsense, frankly - this sentiment is incredibly rare. It's fringe. Asking men to make sure they have consent isn't asking them to somehow prevent rape, it's there to avoid ambiguity that can lead to rape. No matter what situation someone may be in, a person has the agency to not rape someone. You can't blame someone for someone else choosing to rape them. That's absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectThat's one person. Do you really think a majority of people that support yes means yes are I'm this camp? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectNo, they're about avoiding rape and assault because some people apparently can't manage to not do that already. There's a point about this having detrimental consequences for some women that this doesn't suit, but that's entirely different from thinking there is some kind of agenda here. There isn't. Even if it was being hijacked for that cause, that doesn't undermine the good it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 11:28 AM |
| 1 | The oft-quoted idea that in a natural environment 60% of males fail to reproduce whilst only 20% of females do doesnt come from TRP, it comes from genetic analysis.There is no attempt to make men docile, but there is every effort to stop them sexually assaulting or abusing others and respecting another human being's rights. Women, by and large, are not pushing for 'open cuckoldry' in any fashion. Nor is anyone really. The majority of women just want to have serial monogamous relationships and can afford to be more picky with who they have relationships with due to there being more access to a larger pool of men. All that means is that people are less likel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 11:20 AM |
| 0 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.I didn't really mean weird in that way - more weird as in unusual. I've only ever seen men talking about how little women approach them on here so I figured it was an unusual thing itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 11:10 AM |
| 0 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.Perhaps for a lot of people it's just not weird and doesn't need pointing out. I'll grant that a proposal is still mostly a male thing and it's notable if a woman does it but no one bats an eye at a female approaching these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 10:39 AM |
| 10 | Q4Women: If you had a friend that was an incel, would you have sex with him out of courtesy to make him feel better?Generally people have sex because they want to. There's no reason to have sex with someone out of pity, and it could actually be an unpleasant experience for that woman. Someone's right to bodily autonomy trumps another's desire for physical intimacy anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 10:36 AM |
| 1 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.I only had to make the first move once. Every other time it's been the woman approaching. I don't get what you were trying to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectThat's good to hear because, yes, men that rape would likely do it regardless. It can have surprisingly little to do with appearance. Approaching people is fine but, responding to how the op claimed that not being able to uninvitedly touch/kiss a woman, some people seem to think harassment can be warranted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 09:20 AM |
| 2 | The Types of BP menNo, bit it's still incorrect. A lot of us try to challenge views we find repugnant simply because we actually believe it is. Assuming even a significant minority of that is signaling is baseless at best and disingenuous at worst. People that hold strong opinions, no matter what they may be, tend to voice them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectSaying hello isn't harassment but pestering someone is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectMen aren't lions and expecting them not to rape women isn't exactly a tall order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Women want men to self-rejectBP men and women believe that the man shouldn't proceed with an uninvited approach, an uninvited touch, or an uninvited kiss. Sounds reasonable. In essence, men need to be afraid/ashamed of their sexuality when they are around women. Woah, hang on - how does that follow? Respecting personal boundaries is not repressing sexuality. I also have no clue where you're going with someone's choice of clothing. People can think what they want about how someone looks, it's just an issue if someone sees it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 11:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Blue Pillers ultimately dislike/hate MGTOW/FA/Incels more than they do TRP.I don't think TRP is right, particularly, but it does achieve results for some people in some ways. The basic stuff, self improvement and confidence, is good advice. The pseudo-scientific pop-psychology they try to apply to relationships can work on some people. The issue is that it often comes parceled with, or attracts those with, misogynist views. It's a problem when people take these results, misunderstand WHY they work and come to assumptions about people - generalise women or men - with le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 03:18 PM |
| 0 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.Maybe that depends where you live. Personally, I've only ever had one relationship where I made the first move so that kind of women is pretty prevalent in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 03:12 PM |
| 1 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.I think this is a way of expressing what I was trying to. I agree. The word entertain probably just has slightly different connotations that caused the original difference of opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/16 03:12 PM |
| 7 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.That's really just the unfortunate nature of it. More and more women are becoming interested in these same things, though. For example, most of the people in my classes at uni were girls studying science. I find it hard to put my finger on but conversation, to me, is about far more than the topic. You know how you can kinda have a conversation about nothing and still laugh with someone? That's what I spend the majority of my time doing with my girlfriend at least. And that's also really what I m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:23 PM |
| 10 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.That seems like quite a trifling distinction to me. I can also tell you 100% that my partner makes me rather happy even if I am perfectly fine by myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:17 PM |
| 1 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.Either way around, the only evidence we seem to have is anecdote. I just know that's my personal experience and that of people I know. Not representative, but I can assure it's not uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:16 PM |
| 2 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.That's also just not my experience. More women are making the first move, paying for dinner and even proposing than they ever have and it's just more normal now. That's equality and it isn't bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:08 PM |
| 6 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.Being desired on the basis that you're a likeable person that your partner wants to be around because you make them happy is much more flattering than having someone stick around because they need your money. In the case of the latter, they have more chance of just leaving you if an opportunity arises too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:07 PM |
| 2 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.The solution to that is just not to accept that behaviour. It's not that widespread as to be unavoidable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:06 PM |
| 6 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.I agree with this and like the way things are going - I don't want to feel as if someone is reliant on me, and something that I find attractive in a woman is that she doesn't need me at all. It's far more endearing that way when someone stays with you regardless. You don't feel used at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:05 PM |
| 12 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.To avoid being boring you have to just do what you do - have hobbies and interests. Then you just have the monumental task of somehow finding someone who shares those same interests or at least values them. Regardless of that, though, having the ability to entertain someone or hold a decent conversation goes a long way. Why would you want to be with someone that you didn't like being around, after all? I think defining boring in the way you have is quite unlike how most people see it in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:02 PM |
| 3 | [discussion] Men are unhappy because the relationship paradigm has shifted from an exchange of services to manipulation.The desire to actually be self reliant is a strong one that many women feel. The number that actually want to just let a man provide for them, I feel, is just steadily declining. I haven't seen or had reason to feel this same disappointment that you mention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/16 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.True, I can't disagree with that - but then it comes down to what you define as charity. I think we should provide enough to keep people alive and give them opportunity, but not to let them live 'too' comfortably without having to work for it. Where people draw that line can vary quite wildly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/16 01:28 PM |
| 2 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.I think it needs proper vigilant control and attention to work well. That might be the issue with certain trials - we've just kinda let them get on with it. I apply the same concept to drugs tbh and I'm glad to see that sentiment growing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.Yep, that's the issue. The gap between the best service and the worst widens while the poorest have no hope affording the best. Private health care always has a place but the fact is while you live in a capitalist state, social provision is more of a bandage than a cure. The best health care in America might still be a bit expensive, though. Particularly thinking s out drugs, they're very pricey compared to some other places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.A prime example of inefficient spending is where the US spends far more per head in taxes on health care than the UK and then also has medical costs for the patient on top. Despite that, they perform similarly. Some parts of US health care are superior, but usually also much more expensive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.I liked the idea of legalising prostitution but, I'm a trial here in the UK, it hasn't worked out that well so far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Whys is it that BP are usually economic liberals yet SM conservatives and vice-versa with RP.I think that's misunderstanding what aid for the worst off aims to achieve - it's not about necessarily increasing overall output, it's about giving people equal opportunities to succeed or helping the less able get by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/16 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Is this a good example of how similar TBP is to lookism.net and sluthate when it comes to their views?I didn't say anything about that, so I don't get your reply - the current status quo is not liberal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Is this a good example of how similar TBP is to lookism.net and sluthate when it comes to their views?That isn't really what was said there, though, is it? People do act like this and it is something people shouldn't have to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Is this a good example of how similar TBP is to lookism.net and sluthate when it comes to their views?The status quo is to the right of liberalism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 02:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV on Niceguy Shaming: Entitlement is a Copout.Nice guys do exist and are an issue for many people. It's not wrong to say much of what you've said, necessarily, but it kinda misses the point - often you can think you're making a friend or that someone is kind but actually they just wanted to fuck you and, worse, they felt as if they deserved it for being 'nice'. Thats what a Nice Guy is, and that's not behaviour anyone should put up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 02:23 PM |
| -1 | CMV on Niceguy Shaming: Entitlement is a Copout.Alternatively it's disgust at certain people's behavoid and entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/16 02:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Having a series of 1-2 month relationships is not serial monogamy, most women aren't serial monogamistsBecause when people talk about monogamy they almost always don't mean it in the stricter sense pertaining to marriage. It's less useful to define it in that way, and it's also less relevant to the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/16 10:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapyYeah, I was trying to agree with you sorry :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/16 10:59 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Many "incels" who post here would benefit immensely from therapyIn general a lot of western society is still more likely to stigmatise mental illness than it is to help it. It's also not uncommon for mental health to be chronically underfunded. We really do need to put more effort into this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/16 02:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't fail with women because they treat women like "pieces of meat". Women love being treated like meat by attractive men.Some women like that treatment, some don't and some tolerate it if they like the person enough or perhaps have self esteem issues. I think it'd be safe to assume that the majority of women fall into the latter two categories but that's just based on anecdote. It's still terrible advice in general to tell people to treat women that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/16 01:15 PM |
| 1 | So feminism is about equality, is it?Feminism cares about men too you claim. Really? I think it does. The problem is that most women who wouldn't do that are the silent majority, keyword being 'silent'. You let the crazy radicals steer the ship, controlling the political actions that push for misandrist new laws that harm men, while you passively remain in the background. People that have no platform find it very hard to get their views out there. The extremes always manage to shout the loudest in any movement. It's like judging re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/16 09:57 AM |
| 2 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?I only identify as feminist because it's a group that a lot of people subscribe to. I'm sure a lot of us would rather it had a 'better' name but the name doesn't (or shouldn't) matter as much as the message. I think you're right and that the majority of feminists would also identify or sympathise with other equality movements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:14 PM |
| 4 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?It feels completely fruitless trying to explain to them that when someone has said no, they meant no. It isn't a grey area. Or that people don't have to then be blamed for 'not fighting back hard enough'. It churns my gut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?You lose a lot of the identity and weight of the name. There is, in fact, a lot in the name. Similarly, you'd have to try and get everyone who identifies as a feminist to agree to swap or you just end up with a fractured front. Humanism also already has a lot of its own connotations. The Samaritans have a situation with some parallels in the UK: they have a strong brand and high awareness among the public, which is good. But people often mistake them for a Christian organisation (which they no l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?Feminism is a headless beast and no-one can say what it really is or is not. However, the majority of feminists don't fall into the category that is most often attacked and derided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?No, they seem aimed at the easiest group of men to bully and shame. What, rapists? Feminism, and most social movements, rarely do anything big directly. It's about changing perceptions slowly over time. Views are drifting closer toward those of the feminist ideal in part because of that influence. And they aren't the only ones. If you look into feminism though, the general consensus is that the patriarchy harms men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Can a man with a spine accept feminism?The only purpose that movement serves is to make us feel like we are all rapists in the kangaroo court. Why should I take feminism seriously if that's one their better ideas of an equality campaign? That isn't the point of it. Many people do seem to have a hard time understanding consent when it should be very simple. Campaigns like that aren't targeted at men that already know better. Of course I could give it the benefit of the doubt and strip out all of the radical campaigns, actual sentiment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 08:37 AM |
| 4 | Does TBP think this is what most Red Pillers look like?I don''t think countering what you see as a gross group by becoming gross yourself is really anything but a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/16 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"Most people don't find the prospect of rape sexually appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"It's not a fallacy to think that the vast majority of men aren't going to rape you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 05:30 PM |
| 4 | Lets discuss "women are children"It doesn't become grey unless you somehow interpret sleeping next to someone as being an invitation to sex. We have a word for people that think that: rapists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"It is pretty infuriating. It's nice to take a break from playing squash against the wall tbh :P I just feel like I can't let comments like that go. I understand them to a point. Yeah, you can mitigate risks by avoiding situations... but when you're defining risky situations as being, well, everything then you're just telling women to lock themselves up in a padded cell for fear of the unknown. That just isn't how the world works and people need to stop blaming the victims of crime for just livin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"It's not wishful thinking. No means no. You have to be a special kind of stupid to get that confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Is gender distribution the reason why getting casual sex is hard?The default assumption is that things are not mutually exclusive, hence the burden of truth is on proving that they are. If you insist, though, I thought it was rather too basic to have to be spelled out: most women find it hard to achieve orgasm based on penetrative sex but there is a % that does regularly with ease. These women, regardless of whether the sex is consenting or not, are likely to achieve orgasm in either scenario. There is no conflict. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Lets discuss "women are children"Saying no is not grey. If a man thinks that is mixed signals then quite frankly they're either making excuses or are actually retarded and I'd be concerned letting them out into the world. If you can't see how it's relevant then I'm just glad that you're not the sort of person legislating around this kind of thing, cause thankfully we've moved on from your line of thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:36 PM |
| 4 | Lets discuss "women are children"You actually think there's some kind of grey area in that situation? I think we're getting to the bottom of it. You betray just how bizarrely you seem to think about rape. If someone has said no, they have said no. That is not grey. I'll ignore the entire scenario to demonstrate how all that you can't seem to understand is not gibberish: Instead of imagining a situation, just take a % risk. If we assign a x% chance of a bad event happening in a given situation, how high does the risk have to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Is gender distribution the reason why getting casual sex is hard?I read it and I see no contradiction. Those two things are not contradictory and actually support each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:12 PM |
| 5 | Lets discuss "women are children"They are relevant because you keep misinterpreting everything else cause you can't answer the latter. Further, you shouldn't assume "rape"; but you SHOULD assume that because of their mutual drunkenness and diminished capacity; her vulnerability in laying on a sofa with him; and her already turning him down; that that could be a problem and a risk and one that can easily be mitigated by GETTING UP AND LEAVING. No, just no. That is not a risky situation without having a completely fucked up thoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:12 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"There's a couple of things, at least, that you've managed to completely avoid so far. I do not apply this line of thought simply to women. People take different risks of different severity routinely, when does taking a risk specifically become irresponsible? Now, why should you assume that because someone is drunk and desires sex with you that this person desires to rape you? They are not the same thing for the vast, vast majority of people and a bit of alcohol isn't going to suddenly turn a des… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:01 PM |
| 0 | Is gender distribution the reason why getting casual sex is hard?I asked how they were. I see no explanation in there. Women infrequently orgasm during a one night stand. Women infrequently orgasm during rape. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Are you considering voting for Hillary or Trump and why?And those people live and vote in countries where individuals are elected that happen to represent those views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Lets discuss "women are children"No, conflating the desire to have sex with someone and the desire to rape someone shows some seriously concerning understanding of sexual dynamics... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"Yes, it does. You're telling her she can do whatever she wants, wherever she wants, and she's not required to assess or evaluate a risk, and then take action. I'm saying that people can do what they want and shouldn't be expected to assume that everyone is out to infringe on their rights without being given due reason. I don't think that is a situation in which you can reasonably assume any danger unless you want to assume that most men do not respect boundaries. It is not a situation in which t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"That isn't what I've said, and you further show that you have zero understanding of what I said with your last sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Are you considering voting for Hillary or Trump and why?No, and neither was that argued, but that's just the level of understanding you have to expect from anything vaguely pro trump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"It's not my fault if you take something I've said the wrong way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:22 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"Your position absolves women of all responsibility for critical thinking, evaluating a situation she is in, and taking action to reduce and eliminate risks. No it doesn't. If she doesn't want to fuck the guy, she needs to take action to protect herself. That's what she did when she rejected him. And nice goalpost moving bullshit with "leaving the house opens you up to all sorts of crime". That's NOT what we're talking about here. We were discussing the example I listed. It's not goalpost shiftin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:22 PM |
| 5 | Lets discuss "women are children"A person points a gun at you. He tells you to move, before the count of 5, or he will fire the gun. Do you move..? In that example, someone is issuing a clear threat. You touch on this later: If a situation is threatening, leave. There is no reason to believe that a man to whom you have denied an advance would likely attempt to rape you. As you say, most men are not predators. It does no good to exist as if they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"No, I don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:15 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"Can you explain anything wrong with it? Where's the cut off? At what point is an activity risky enough that it constitutes irresponsibility? Simply leaving the house opens you up to all sorts of crime and misfortune, but that isn't generally considered the responsibility of the victim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 01:52 PM |
| 8 | Lets discuss "women are children"Very persuasive. I'm sorry that you seem to lack the ability to understand the nuance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 01:49 PM |
| 4 | Lets discuss "women are children"You haven't translated what I've said, you've completely misinterpreted it. For one, I don't apply that to women, I apply to it everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 01:38 PM |
| 3 | Lets discuss "women are children"I can't agree with any of that tbh. If someone has been turned down once, its only reasonable to assume that your wishes be respected. It isn't a good idea to go on assuming that all people are rapists in waiting. You'd exclude yourself from vast swathes of normal life if you tried to avoid all those kinds of situations. The person who perpetrates a crime is far more responsible than the victim simply because they chose to infringe on the rights of someone else. That goes for any crime in any si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Lets discuss "women are children"I think the way BP looks at this is less that women aren't responsible, just that the only person that is deserving of blame in these situations is the perpetrator. As in your example: including laying on a sofa half drunk with a half drunk man who they know wants to fuck her. Someone's well within their rights to expect they can do that without worrying about being sexually assaulted. If the man gets the wrong idea, that's his fault. Assumptions should never be made when it comes to grey areas … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: How do you derive your confidence and value, worth?I'm happiest being able to help others and be there for people when they need me. I don't really care about having an impressive job or prolific achievements, I care much more about the relationships I have and their health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: Are you considering voting for Hillary or Trump and why?They probably should since international relations are rather important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Is gender distribution the reason why getting casual sex is hard?What needs squaring? They aren't contradictory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 07:49 AM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to black pill?Well, there's your problem really. That isn't the majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 03:13 PM |
| 2 | What is the female equivalent to black pill?Well, at the very least, I'd say those scenes aren't particularly representative of women generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:58 PM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to black pill?You're certain you're not making an assumption about their preferences? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:56 PM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent to black pill?All young women care about in 2016 is genetics and sometimes status. Have you even met a woman? Like, a real one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Well, I did say ostensibly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Nowhere I can think of lives under true capitalism in the west, and that's a good thing. People earn money based on merit because we ostensibly live in a meritocracy. That is undermined if equal pay for equal work is not upheld. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 11:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?It is rare, definitely. There's still an observed gap between men and women leaving the same colleges with the same grades, though. There are lots of factors there and I'm glad so little of it is discrimination compared to what it used to be. We've come a long way. I'm not too sure about the less human thing. Is sex really that big a deal to most people? I was under the impression it was only really incel types that were that fussed about their virginity. Also, whether or not it's true that it's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:37 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Pay is something earned for the work you do, and people generally agree that you get paid based on the work you put it and how necessary/specialised/skilled that work is. If someone is being paid less or more due to something arbitrary about them, such as their gender, that's unfair. Sex is something that people aren't entitled to just 'cause, it's something that two (or more) willing people partake in because they want to, whether that's because they love each other or because they accepted pay… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?There are plenty of factors that increase the pay gap that are understandable, such as these, but there is still a gap varying by field that is unexplained when you take these into account. It doesn't simply explain away the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 08:11 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?It hasn't been debunked. There's still a small difference even when taking into account maternity, hours and career choices. There's also a discrepancy in initial employment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 07:55 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Because the only way to avoid 'high risk' activities is to not leave the house and that doesn't even necessarily work. Women have the right to go to a club dressed however they want and the only person that can ever be at fault is the one doing the assault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 07:49 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Equal pay is by far more important than men getting sex. It's not even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 07:46 AM |
| 2 | is this situation "rape"?Unfortunately, people do take matters into their own hands when they should leave it to the law. This goes for vigilante 'justice' as much as it does private organisations making expulsions. A large part of why a lot of this support exists is because people have been pushing for it for a long time. The same needed and still needs to be done for men to get us to the same point. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't even believe that a man can be raped by a woman for various reasons, and that impac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 05:33 PM |
| 2 | is this situation "rape"?Yes, definitely. This is why rape naturally has a low conviction rate because it really comes down to one person's word against another. Unless you wanted to make it favour one party over the other... but I think everyone can see why that would be an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 04:39 PM |
| 4 | When should a woman end the night if sex is off the table? Also, is it wrong for women to have male friends?A date doesn't necessarily have to lead to anything to be worth staying through. Even if you don't connect that way, you can always make friends. No one is under any obligation to end a date early if they don't feel sexual attraction. The consent part is particularly worrying. I go out with female friends quite frequently and it isn't anything but platonic. I don't think it's unusual and you don't need to worry about it being a dick move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 11:16 AM |
| 1 | If TRP doesn't work, then it wouldn't have blown up as much as it has as a subThat's unfortunate. Is that in the context of people reacting to rejection or just things that sre said generally? At least shaving is fairly quick to do :p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 10:36 AM |
| 3 | How much does penis size correlate with SMV?Not really. People have different preferences, somewhat down to their own anatomy. For some a terrible partner with a big dick will be better and for others it will just hurt. It's one aspect of sexual compatability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 10:30 AM |
| 1 | If TRP doesn't work, then it wouldn't have blown up as much as it has as a subI find it far more likely that it's popular because there are a lot of people that want it to work, and that find it's ideology fits in with their world view already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?You don't believe what? How do you counter that it's a genetically linked trait in nature? How do you explain how it's observed in everything from insects to birds? How do explain away that there is a strong familial, maternal line genetic component to observed homosexuality in humans? One that has been replicated easily? Whether or not you like gay people is unimportant to this - whether you like it or not, it is a natural thing that cannot be cured and cannot be explained away by higher level … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Why is everything about women?In a lot of cases, it's actually cultural. If people don't think they can do something because of their gender then they aren't likely to try. That's the objective of positive discrimination, though I don't agree that the ends justify the means, it does help to solve that issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 05:10 PM |
| 8 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?That completely goes against all the evidence we have. And I can assure you that not all men 'wonder about sucking a dick every now and then. Yes, there are genetics at play that make people far, far more likely to be gay. It's not as simple as a single gene, nor is it apparently entirely genetic. That doesn't counter the fact that some people have a different sexual orientation to others. It has absolutely nothing to do with self control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 02:15 PM |
| 9 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?Did you miss the part where sexual orientation has a strong genetic component? Or that it's widely seen in nature (Bonobos are basically exclusively bisexual for example)? You can choose whether to have sex or not, you're right. But sexual orientation isn't a choice. That's bad science to suggest it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 01:59 PM |
| 10 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?It's not really understanding it at all since there is no evidence to suggest that homosexuality is a choice and many reasons to believe that it is genetic, at least in part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 12:39 PM |
| 2 | Why is everything about women?I doubt there's one answer. I don't think positive discrimination really works and potentially does more harm than good, but if there were more women in certain fields where they're underrepresented then they might be taken more seriously. Encouragement and education is ok but grants seem unfair. Similarly, we could do with more male primary school teachers but that's pretty stigmatised too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 12:04 PM |
| 3 | Why is everything about women?There are definitely people out there that make successes from what others see as drawbacks. It's still unfair either way, though, and we'd be better off if the discrimination didn't exist in the first place, both ways around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Why is everything about women?Well, I did say many. I'm not even sure it's a majority. To a lot of these people, Incels and such, the obsession is pretty strong. I think generally men are more interested in chasing girls than girls are in chasing men, though. That's just what it seems like to me, I can't offer any evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 11:33 AM |
| 4 | Why is everything about women?I think it pertains to your point about women getting jobs, for example. A woman might be hired more easily into an entry level job, but being a woman is actually a drawback in a lot of lucrative careers (even when a woman is equally as qualified as a man, employers are shown to select against women). That's how it doesn't scale up and can actually become a hindrance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Why is everything about women?I don't agree most of those are the case in the first place. But the general point is just that many men make everything about women because that is their interest. Definitely not all of them though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 11:11 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?Negative traits aren't always selected against, nor are alleles always responsible for a singular trait. The same genetics that relates to homosexuality may also confer a benefit elsewhere. There's some research on this that actually crosses genders - since homosexuality seems to be passed on maternally, the female relatives of gay men were studied and it was found that found that the maternal female relatives of gay men have more children than maternal female relatives of straight men. That's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:44 AM |
| 2 | Can it be rape if she doesn't say no?You can be raped without saying no. In cases where consent can't be given, in cases where someone is too afraid to withdraw consent and that kind of thing. It's important to realise that not all rape is equal - a violent, group sexual assault is more serious than a misunderstanding where someone assumes consent and the other person is too shocked/scared to say no. Both are rape, though. This example is somewhere in the middle with coercion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:50 AM |
| 5 | Q4All: Do people that are unable to form relationships, "incels" and "ForeverAlones" become asexual or demisexual with time?That's not how genetics works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:42 AM |
| 2 | is this situation "rape"?You can be raped without saying no, and men can be raped in just the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Not All Incels Are Like ThatI think that's why it's important to judge each case differently, tbh. None of them have identical circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Not All Incels Are Like ThatWell, you've taken it a bit literally. I don't think someone would identify as being incel in that case. I mean that it doesn't have to be a strict definition of cut-off point where you become an incel, just that you feel you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Why is autonomy important for men but not for women?Complete and utter nonsense that ignores the scores of women that value autonomy and have no such issues with men or consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 08:54 AM |
| 6 | Any theories why men contemplate suicides post breakup?I have spoken to a lot of suicidal people (on account of volunteering with a suicide hotline) and genuinely loneliness is the number one thing I heard. Loneliness due to breakups, due to a prohibitive work/family life, lack of friends... It's usually feeling isolated in one way or another. A lot of gay/lesbian people, too, complaining about feeling alone since they had to hide who they were from their friends and/or families. The calls I took were basically 50/50 split which led me to believe th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Not All Incels Are Like ThatFrom my experience, most incels are either fine or a little mad at their situation, but there are some real pieces of work that stick out with their blatant sexism and abhorrent attitudes. I think someone is an incel as soon as they self identify that way, personally. I wouldn't pity one unless they couldn't get sex at all on account of things outside of their control. I have no idea what most people consider to be an incel though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Do you view your interactions with women as zero-sum?Just from my personal experience, I find it a weird position to take. There's very little in my relationships with women that isn't mutually beneficial. It's not always even at any given point, though. With my partner, sometimes I've had to support them and others they've had to support me, but I rest easy in the knowledge that we both do what's in the interest of the relationship first and foremost. I find it sad that some people can't have that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?You like who you like. Seems to me like she was trying to be something and do something that her heart wasn't in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:01 PM |
| 5 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?It's a pretty important distinction to make. Generalising is a terrible idea cause you end up throwing the baby out with the bath water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:59 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingSurprisingly people find this advice hard to follow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.I'm not religious, and I don't advocate abstinence only. You are responsible for your actions no matter what though. Just cause you don't want a child, that doesn't mean you shouldn't accept the burden if you do end up with someone pregnant. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/16 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.You've obviously not been listening or following my logic to come to that conclusion. I said that BOTH sides are equally culpable in regular circumstances. Nothing about girls doing no wrong at all, that's in your head. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/16 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4 incels and RP: How do you think women will react to the backlash and male revenge?The same as there is with men - friendship, companionship, reliability... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Nice guys should be shamed by womenIt isn't gonna hurt, either, and it might bring it to the attention of people that are nearly falling into the same pit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Nice guys should be shamed by womenIndeed, plenty of people get the wrong end of the stick and act like this stereotype (I was there myself back in school) but all too often you seem to find 'nice guys' that are so far gone that they're lost to hostile sexism. When you get to that point it's impossible to reason with and I see no harm on shaming them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:05 AM |
| 5 | Q4 incels and RP: How do you think women will react to the backlash and male revenge?That's got the same chance of happening as the alternative. Also, a lot of men like women for more than reproduction and sex. I can't imagine they will conveniently step aside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:59 AM |
| -1 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.It doesn't matter what the common attitude is, though. The father does have a choice in whether a child is born, regardless - they can choose not to have sex. If you aren't ready to accept the possibility of your actions resulting in a child then don't have sex. And that does go for both sexes. Taking an example where someone lied for their own convenience doesn't prove a trend. People lie, people can be dicks and that has nothing to do with gender. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/08/16 02:55 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] /r/tbp is not a "satire" subreddit. It is a place where feminists gather to engage in Misandry.I mean, I agree with you all the way till the end cause in my experience I've never seen a feminist act that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 12:16 AM |
| -7 | Some of the greatest thinkers in history were stone-cold misogynistsOr you could try listening to reason for once. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.I'm not on about paternal abuse, I'm on about the sort of fathers that might be around, but provide little to no support or actual parenting. Abusive fathers are a whole different thing that is, of course, negative to the extreme. I think that there are also a lot of other factors at play when it comes to the reporting of fatherless boys and their issues. Most often, for example, they are also in poverty or live in areas where they don't really stand out from the background of delinquency in the… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 10:04 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] /r/tbp is not a "satire" subreddit. It is a place where feminists gather to engage in Misandry.Well, I can if you want but I doubt you'll listen. If you think that even a a significant minority of feminists are actually like that then I think you are sorely mistaken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 09:58 PM |
| -12 | Some of the greatest thinkers in history were stone-cold misogynistsNo, I went to university and studied Cognitive Neuroscience, actually. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 09:57 PM |
| 3 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. There's no beauty in someone's suffering. What has she ever done to you to provoke such a response? | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Univ. Of Chicago to incoming freshman: "We do not support so-called trigger warnings, we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual ‘safe spaces”I find the criticism of safe spaces particularly hilarious considering the insular communities on Reddit and elsewhere that actively ban people with contrary viewpoints. The creation of echo chambers to rail against their polar opposites is the epitome of irony. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:22 PM |
| -4 | A woman is a parasiteIt's not simple and even less a truth. Have you never had a mutually beneficial relationship with a woman? They exist and are the norm for most people. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:12 PM |
| -2 | Women on Tinder in a nutshellI think it's supposed to be quite obviously a joke. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:11 PM |
| 0 | Pussy whippedness hurting male circles of friendsBros before hoes doesn't make sense to a lot of men as they prefer to spend time with their partner. There's a reason why, in the predominant serial monogamy, that we put all our eggs in one basket. It's nothing to do with being whipped and everything to do with preferences. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:09 PM |
| -2 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.I had none, I did fine. A lot of people might struggle but my point was, and remains, that having an absent father is better than having a bad one. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 07:07 PM |
| -21 | Some of the greatest thinkers in history were stone-cold misogynistsThere is no general inferiority to acknowledge, and undermining the humanity of 50% of the population is nothing less than petty or cruel. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:06 PM |
| -17 | Some of the greatest thinkers in history were stone-cold misogynistsSociety is declining? By what metric? The majority of interactions with women and children are mutually beneficial. I don't see how they could be considered wasteful in any sense. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:06 PM |
| -20 | Some of the greatest thinkers in history were stone-cold misogynistsThey're a product of their time, and the world they lived in was inherently misogynistic. It's really no surprise that they saw things through that lens, and says nothing beyond that. | /r/MGTOW | 28/08/16 07:03 PM |
| 2 | If women lack empathy, why do they often feel sad towards the less fortunate?I think feeling empathy for those that might even hate you is admirable, but I can understand why not everyone can do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Providing for and looking after a child. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:56 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] /r/tbp is not a "satire" subreddit. It is a place where feminists gather to engage in Misandry.Only some people will do that, and it's not representative of what feminism actually is or has ever meant. Nor is it in the spirit of TBP. Pretending you can take fringe elements of any group and discredit everyone associated with them on that basis is folly, and incredibly retarded 'reasoning'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 06:55 PM |
| -1 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Yes. This. And even if you're using contraception, you're still responsible for any accident that occurs. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:54 PM |
| -4 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Yeah girls are always the victim, men are always guilty. A dad who isn't there is always a deadbeat, and she can't possibly be the entire reason he isn't there. That's a complete misrepresentation of what was said. I hate to generalise, but why do you see this attitude so frequently around these parts? People are very, very rarely attempting to argue something even close to 'Men are always guilty, women are always victims'. When two people have sex, even if they think they're taking every precau… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:52 PM |
| -4 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Take your moral responsibility of fatherhood, maybe? It's not hard to avoid being a deadbeat dad. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:49 PM |
| -13 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Having no male role model isn't particularly disadvantageous, definitely not as much so as people tend to assume. It's better to have no father in your life than a terrible one. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:49 PM |
| 4 | Woman hits the wall at 25, has mental breakdown: single mother with no money comes to realise no one wants to date a single mother, has vitriolic anger towards her ex who's still living a happy life and having relationships.Relishing other people's misfortune makes you a fundamentally fucked up person. If you truly can't empathise with another's misery then you're missing a core part of humanity. Why would you even want to derive pleasure from the pain of someone else? | /r/TheRedPill | 28/08/16 06:47 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.If you aren't nice then you aren't nice. I don't think there's anything you can do to change that because, if you try and make yourself nice as a means to an end (getting a partner) than you're not actually being nice, you're being selfish. It's not true altruism. Most of the time, this falseness shows through sooner or later and people reject it. Most people want a nice partner, but most people don't want a 'nice guy'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/16 08:34 PM |
| 1 | (Q4All) Why are "foreveralones" "incels" and other sexual rejects mocked and stigmatized?I got banned from both yesterday for posting a person's opinions to there. A lot of them are fucking insane. I think that really takes away from those posting there that are actually looking for help and support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/16 08:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.Indeed, that's a good way of expressing it. I hope things are gong better for you now :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/16 01:58 AM |
| 1 | In defense of the special snowflakesI wasn't aware that's how it worked for most people. I can pretty neatly sort the friends I have into pretty unique circles that don't really get on with each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 11:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.While I take that porn is a good example of male diversity, I don't think the relative lack of diversity there for women means very much since so few of them tend to watch it, or those that do don't watch it often. Porn aimed at women is definitely growing, though, and I suspect that we'll see more niches as a result of that. It's also worth noting that a lot of women currently enjoy porn that is targeted at men. If you're single because you can't decide, I'd say don't worry about finding someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 02:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.Isn't it something of an assumption that women primarily find those traits attractive? Similarly, isn't it possible that men are mostly pursuing the same few traits in women? I genuinely don't know the answer, but I see diverse enough couple to suspect that people do have very varied tastes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 02:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.I dunno, I'm just not comfortable with broad strokes like that. I'd rather judge people individually than have these suspicions. I would suggest that insecurity in a relationship is likely a self fulfilling prophecy. It's not a very attractive trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 02:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.Those men can be artists and are very often lovers, too. Why stereotype them? I'm open to being proven wrong, but I don't know if those men are more likely to cheat in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:55 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.That's a very negative way of looking at things. If you were to try and use the barely-science evo-psych angle, it'd probably make sense that these men have good genetics to pass on, and if you can get them to stick around long enough to help raise your kids that's a bonus. In the real world, though, being attractive, successful, charismatic and connected are just positive traits. You don't need to be a bad person to have them. Most people aren't so insecure that they just worry about someone go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:37 PM |
| 3 | In defense of the special snowflakesCan you give me an example? You've done it in basically every post (attacking something that no-one has even touched on). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 2 | In defense of the special snowflakesI still don't buy that. For example, people often have a certain type of friend from school, the kind they went to college with, the kind they go to work with... and often those are completely different kinds of people. People can fall into different social circles with very different sub-cultures as they move through life. It doesn't have to be so stagnant and, in my experience, it never has been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:20 PM |
| 5 | In defense of the special snowflakesThe culture that surrounds me is apparently nothing like the one you see. I don't think people on TRP are pointing out common patterns of behaviour simply because, while I see it on occasion, it's not the experience of a lot of people. At all. But, "Teach Men Not to Rape" (tm) is not an extreme conclusion, apparently? This is precisely what I was on about. No-one has said this. Can you argue only by putting words in people's mouths and jumping to conclusions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:18 PM |
| 2 | In defense of the special snowflakesBecause someone's social circle isn't static, and it's much healthier to judge people individually than it is to generalise. When you start going about your business with preconceptions like that then you become inherently inflexible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:01 PM |
| 3 | In defense of the special snowflakesIt's amazing that you could read that comment and then come to the conclusions you did. No one is suggesting discriminating against anyone and making out that they are is just lowering the tone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 12:57 PM |
| 2 | In defense of the special snowflakesThe men reporting this had the desire to seek out and post on TRP in the first place and so I don't think they'd be an accurate gauge of what women want - it's a specific group, not something you can form a generalisation from. For me, in what is obviously an anecdote, I've never seen it. The only time I even started considering that it might be the case is when I started reading about it online. We aren't going to to the bottom of it without doing proper study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 12:48 PM |
| 5 | In defense of the special snowflakesSurely, if women are unlikely to be an accurate indicator due to bias, the sort of person seeking out and posting on TRP is also similarly biased? The only way you can actually objectively look at supposed trends like this is to study it, especially when opposite truths are 'evident' to both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 12:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.Being naturally introverted means that people won't know anything about your positive traits to judge in the first place. People simply don't have the time to get to know everyone to that extent. If you don''t put yourself out there then there's no excuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:09 AM |
| 1 | All Male High School opens in Washington D.C.That isn't what I was getting at though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/16 06:39 PM |
| 1 | All Male High School opens in Washington D.C.I don't care if it gets better results personally, I would have probably killed myself if I had to go to an all boys school. Damn that sounds shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/16 08:46 AM |
| 1 | Which one of these scenarios best represents equality?In sport it's kind of accepted that a natural advantage (such as height) should just be left as is. In this example it's definitely number 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/16 08:41 AM |
| 2 | If AWALT is true, why isn't #YesAllMen?I don't really disagree with any of that. In fact, most people only seem to see things like Free the Nipple and Manspreading, as you say, and judge feminism as a whole harshly on that basis. In that way I can't see it as being overly helpful. Though I get the impression that a lot of the people kicking up a fuss about those aren't necessarily the same people that are seriously approaching issues that face women daily. That isn't to say that they are non-issues, but they aren't really as importan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 12:43 PM |
| 1 | If AWALT is true, why isn't #YesAllMen?On the topic, what are some of your biggest gripes with feminism? It'd be nice to hear some that are more informed for once here :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:50 AM |
| 1 | If AWALT is true, why isn't #YesAllMen?A lot of critique in general of feminism (and even MRAs) is pretty obtuse. People just seem (from anecdote) content to focus on fringe elements or situations and try to knock down an entire movement over that. I think that there's an argument there, though, that you'd have to do a lot of reading and understand a lot of context to appreciate what feminism even is before you attack it. You've given a lot of literature there and I very much doubt many people would go as far as to read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:16 AM |
| 1 | [Debate] Do women like sex as much as men do?If women enjoy sex as much as men, shouldn't more guys be getting lucky? I don't think this argument really holds because that way of approaching people isn't going to have a high chance of success. People tend to get on better when their initial interaction isn't forced or artificial, and just comes about 'naturally'. Plenty of women (and men) are wanting sex but aren't going to just put out without the right conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:09 AM |
| 4 | What are some truths about male nature?That seems genuinely unlikely to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:04 AM |
| 5 | What are some truths about male nature?It's what I hate about the whole debate. People are far too complex to stereotype so simply. There are trends but so, so many exceptions that the 'rule' may as well be ignored the majority of the time. I think you're spot on to say there are more men like that than is assumed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 10:00 AM |
| 6 | What are some truths about male nature?I can only agree with maybe one of those as a man. This is the problem with generalisations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:56 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesIt's got nothing to do with me thinking that it's unacceptable to say, I genuinely don't think it exists as you're suggesting it does. SJWs are targeting people that they see as being regressive, that has nothing to do with the way a person looks or their perceived value to women and everything to do with their statements and views toward equality and social justice. Does a man's value on the dating market dictate what they think about women? Race? Gender? Those are some of the more common thing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 02:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesYeah, I can see how there's a definite difference between two western countries on one issue. Still, I'm not seeing a reason how them being to the left, no matter how far, is to do with feminism in particular as opposed to being just a left wing kind of policy. I don't know much about that act but, having read that article, there is still a pay gap when accounting for women's choices, as it self admits. It's small but it exists. I have no idea how well the act would attempt to address it, though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 02:15 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI see no misuse of labels there at all. I just spent a while looking through it, and it all seems pretty reasonable to me. Absolutely nothing to do with desirability. At all. I have no idea why you seem to think people have it out for these 'low value men' when I've seen no evidence that that's the case at all. You're still using the example of a completely separate group. Stop it. You just asked about it: Except they haven't been in any way bad for since what, the start of the twentieth century… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesIt's a left wing party, it's pretty normal for them to have left wing views on things like abortion and, specifically, doing it on public health care. I don't get what's confusing about that, since it seems pretty equal to me to have a 50/50 split, qualified government. The qualified part is especially important. In the UK, we have ridiculous situations like the chancellor of the exchequer not having any formal knowledge of economics. What's wrong with the Wages Act? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV - STEM Careers are for Betas and OmegasThere are a lot of people at the top that have basically no right to be there, and stumbled there either through a string of lucky events or sheer nepotism. I'd love to believe that most businesses rewarded people on the basis of merit but I've seen far too many mangers elevated through brown-nosing to think that's often the case. The best are as you describe and highly educated, driven and knowledgeable and also respectful of their employees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI really don't know where you're getting that from. Yeah, some 'low value' males will be 'Nice Guys' but that doesn't point to a generalisation taking place by the people on that subreddit. If someone feels entitled to a person because they were nice to them, which is the main thrust of the idea, then it's perfectly understandable for them to be labelled that way. That's what a Nice Guy is. I think you're conflating low value men with men that have viewpoints that happen to be repulsive to most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI'm not sure how many of those would identify as feminist. Of those, perhaps people in academia would be most likely to think so. I really don't think the majority of a government in most of the western world would be feminist though. Aside that, though - there's no harm in a movement for equality being important or influential. Quite the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI think that's a mischaracterisation of the Nice Guy phenomenon. From their sidebar for one: Most of the posts you find here will feature men, but posts featuring women who fit the nice guy archetype are allowed. (Or gay men, or gay women, etc). Niceguyness transcends gender and sexuality. It's not about attacking men who are low value, it's the rejection of manipulative men who feel entitled to intimacy on the basis of being nice. The only reason I mentioned feminine men as having improved was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesWell, you're entitled to that opinion but I think that's an admirable thing. Generalising based on preconceived gender roles definitely works to a point, but a lot of people get left behind when they don't confirm to those norms. I'd just like people to do whatever it is they want to do without facing discrimination. No problem :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 12:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI completely disagree with that assessment. It hasn't become harder for those men, It's always been hard for those men. Whether women have more or less rights, or whether men's rights issues are addressed, has little to no impact on the lives of 'weak, unattractive men' but it has become much, much more acceptable to be a feminine man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 09:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesThere's more in that interview if you wanted to look at it, too. I only mention that because I was specifically talking about the example of the patriarchy being harmful to basically everyone. All social justice movements can do is try to expand the debate and convince people/politicians to consider their points. It's not token acknowledgement, it's an attempt at progress. It's the exact same thing that feminists do for women or MRAs for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 09:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesIt is vague. There is more in that interview, though. Specifically about grades and Vietnam. I just found that example to be quite relevant since I was talking about how patriarchy harms men too. Progress is very slow but, again, in that interview, she talks about how the world seems very different now than back when she wrote her book. I think men and women are both better off overall for social justice movements. It's much safer to be gay or transgender, and men can more acceptably do ballet o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 09:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesThese days, maybe second hand. I think most people are getting their talking points from their peers though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 08:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesEverything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 08:46 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societieshttp://www.feminist.com/resources/artspeech/interviews/carolgilligan.html And it affects men as well as women. And my research shows it affects men at a much earlier age – the pressures on little boys to internalize a patriarchal voice, occurs around five. And the pressures – the shaming of boys that does not – “you’re gay, you’re a girl, you’re a mama’s boy” – so it’s almost like a strategy of the patriarchy to characterize it as though men are the victors and women are the losers. If you actua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 08:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesWell that's not really what I suggested. Having equality of opportunity wouldn't hurt anything you've raised as a concern there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 06:58 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI don't think that's true I'm the slightest. As I've said, feminism is a movement for equality. It cares just as much for men at the bottom as it dies any social injustice. The fact is that the man hating feminazi is the outlier and not the bulk. Characterising feminism on that ticket dismisses a wide group of people that would otherwise be an ally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:27 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI find that very hard to believe since I sincerely doubt most feminists are up to date with current elitist feminist thought. I think you're putting far too much stock in how important academics are to the movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:24 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesIt is when it stifles equality and progression. Attraction is only a part of society, and it's not a good excuse to keep the majority of people downtrodden. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:22 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesFeminism isn't really characterised by significant voices, it's a grassroots movement. There are scholars and intellectual types who use their platform to preach their own views, but they aren't feminism and they aren't leading it - they're just a part. Taking fringe individuals and using them as a base for one'a view of feminism is quite flawed from the outset, really. But equality is the original goal of feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Is the decline of fertility rates to below-replacement levels in countries like the US, Japan, Italy, and Sweden a product of women being unwilling to settle down? If so, how should governments approach women's unwillingness to marry and reproduce?I don't think anything needs to be done. People that don't want to have children no longer feel like they have to, that it's their responsibility. That's a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Study: Men are less likely to use protection when their female partner is more physically attractiveThat was an incredibly measured response. We need more of that :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 02:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The demographic transition is a main factor in the destabilized relationships we see between men and women in industrialized societiesI dunno if that's something women forget. Not to say that it isn't an issue because it is - lots of feminists agree that patriarchy is bad for pretty much everyone but the most powerful males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Do men empathize with women?When you're in training for the Samaritans, they place a fair bit of emphasis on empathy over sympathy. What I discovered personally is that empathy comes very easily for me and not necessarily for others, who I've seen struggle to even understand it and let alone feel it. When someone is telling you about how they are going to kill themselves, or is in the middle of an overdose, it's pretty hard not to empathise with them. But obviously that's an extreme circumstance where most people can manag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 02:13 PM |
| 5 | What would you assume to be the issue if a man were to come to you and say, "I'm pursuing women in a socially acceptable way and I have normal social habits, but I am unable to find a date or gf."?Well, what you say will definitely make some difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 10:24 AM |
| 3 | What would you assume to be the issue if a man were to come to you and say, "I'm pursuing women in a socially acceptable way and I have normal social habits, but I am unable to find a date or gf."?What are you opening with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 10:16 AM |
| 3 | What would you assume to be the issue if a man were to come to you and say, "I'm pursuing women in a socially acceptable way and I have normal social habits, but I am unable to find a date or gf."?Plenty of people manage it. It's not nearly impossible in the slightest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Doesn't this post prove the OKCupid Study right? Women find most men unattractive?It does still matter because most young people still aren't using online dating - the kind of people that are are quite likely different in at least some ways to the general young population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 09:26 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?I bet you do the same with Mras Well, you'd be wrong. But accusing me of making assumptions based on your own assumptions is pretty laughable to say the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Doesn't this post prove the OKCupid Study right? Women find most men unattractive?Looks are quite important for first impressions and first impressions are basically the majority of what you have to go on with dating sites, so it makes sense for their importance to increase thewe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/16 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Doesn't this post prove the OKCupid Study right? Women find most men unattractive?It's still a subset of the general population, and we have no idea if it's representative in that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/16 11:16 AM |
| 1 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.If you weren't so busy spinning in circles you could see I've answered that. Regardless, they make up a greater percentage each year, and they aren't incapable if it, so the disparity seems to be entirely cultural. These incentives that you seem to hate so much are closing the gap slowly, quite contrary to your opinion that women are incapable. And mentioning that... how can you possibly think invention is beyond women when you now full well the ones that gave put their kind to it have managed i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/16 11:09 AM |
| 1 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Bloody hell, you really didn't take any in. Let me condense it: More women are in college, but the increase is in areas where graduates do not as often apply for patents. If women made up 50% of engineering and computer science graduates (the areas that produce the most patents) then you would have a point. But they don't, and you don't. I have no idea why you seem to think that a vague correlation, you just look like you're grasping at straws. Can you actually come up with a counterpoint, or ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/16 02:35 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?Some feminists. I repeat: some. Why are you so hell-bent on sweeping generalisations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 1 | what does it mean 'you'll find love when you stop looking for it'?Or they might just make the first move when someone interests them... you know, exactly like men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 05:57 PM |
| 0 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Given everything I've said above, and that women have proven themselves able in virtually everything outside of extreme physical activity, you're just categorically wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 05:52 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.I'm not failing to acknowledge anything. it's not as if women have just invented two things. Yes, women major in different subjects on average - but those that choose to do non-'traditional' subjects can perform equally as well as their male peers. What I'm getting at, and what I've always been getting at, is that women are just as capable as men in whatever they put their mind too. Funnily enough, that goes both ways. Not many men major in childcare or social studies comparatively but they can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 12:45 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Of the things women have invented, I think I'd go for kevlar simply because of its broad applications. Failing that, the medical syringe. It doesn't seem that you're actually taking any note of facts, but I just want to throw out there that basically all new patents are in the fields women are underrepresented in. The ones they less often major in at uni. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 11:26 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.No, women invent proportionately as much as you'd expect. I have no idea what your second point is even supposed to be. But yeah, if you want to reduce it down to that, it is a big fat 'No'. You base your opinions on what is admittedly 'common sense' and completely ignore evidence to the contrary. That is foolish. If you want to be reductionist then go ahead, but you'll stay as ignorant of reality as you are now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 11:06 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.I'm going to massively disagree. I'd much rather do traditional work than housework. It's backbreaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 11:04 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.You do need a figure. I was hoping by asking you that maybe you'd learn something. Maybe I was naive. Here is some data on what women major in. I'm sure that you'll notice that the fields most likely to have been studied by an 'inventor' are dominated by men. Why, then, would you expect there to be more women than there are currently inventing? That's nearly nonsensical, and I think it's pretty rich to accuse me of lacking logic when you couldn't even be bothered (or lacked the capacity) to do a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 10:59 AM |
| 1 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Do you actually have a figure for that? One you haven't made up? Similarly, why take such a simplistic view around college? It's not smart at all. What courses are women more likely to attend in college? Are women and men more likely to enter different areas of postgraduate work? I think you'll find that the relationship you're trying to make simply doesn't exist in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 10:21 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Is invention all you care about? There are plenty of women working in lots of high level areas. Female scientists, for example. And it's not as if women haven't invented anything important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 10:10 AM |
| 7 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Women weren't parasites in the 60s and they aren't now. Women have the capacity to be equals in almost all areas, and deserve the opportunity to prove themselves wherever they like. Your entire comment is the degeneracy you're projecting onto 50% of all people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:53 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Often, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:50 AM |
| 3 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Housework is actual work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outIt's good to see someone not taking a completely ethnocentric view of sexuality here. It seems like most discussion here sees everything through a western lens. I think, if nothing else, it shows that 'natural' human behaviour and ideology is malleable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:32 AM |
| 3 | what does it mean 'you'll find love when you stop looking for it'?Plenty of women make the first move these days. The idea that they're always chased and never the chaser is very outdated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 08:47 AM |
| 1 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outMost of what I don't like about TRP isn't that it's a system, it's that it's a system based on shaky evidence and anecdote at best, and discrimination at worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 08:44 AM |
| 0 | What rights do men have that women do not?I don't think it's a very good analogy because I don't think that it's in any way natural psychology. The only thing to subvert is specific culture. People's assumptions are learned, not necessarily ingrained. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 07:53 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?That's a general feeling, not evidence of a common strategy. You have no evidence other than your gut and a heavy dose of confirmation bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 07:47 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?Women are more often the victim of sexual assault and harassment. That's a specific issue with specific causes and specific potential resolutions. Only looking at the general picture will do no good for anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 10:45 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?People do get different treatment depending on their own personal traits, but my point is that around 50% of all people can expect a disproportionate amount of one kind of abuse simply for something that they were born into. Feminism can perfectly explain and push these issues without having to dismiss the plight of other groups with disproportionate issues. In fact, the umbrella of equal rights and humanism often does band together - many activists take part in different movements. Feminists of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 10:43 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?If that natural psychology was so ingrained then no-one could overcome it. As a matter of fact, we do and so it's reasonable to assume that a large part of the problem is cultural. Culture can change and it has to if we want to avoid this problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 10:36 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?Violent crime in general is very different from my main point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 11:48 PM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?It's not gendered, but it's more commonly experienced by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 11:23 PM |
| 0 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Companionship, love, care and support. Having someone be there for you, and to have someone to be there for, no matter the weather... that isn't something fleeting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?I'd just accept it. Sex isn't a big deal compared to a loving relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:54 PM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?No, if that's what you're taking away from it then you haven't watched all of it. Even then, that's one person - are you going to take their views and pretend all women or feminists have the same idea? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:51 PM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?So you mean when one person does something stupid you're going to then judge everyone vaguely associated with them based on that single person's actions? I hope you can see how foolish that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:50 PM |
| -1 | What rights do men have that women do not?Yeah, I see that too. I think a lot of what has traditionally been seen as gender traits are now more broadly prevalent, since people are more and more liberated from strict definitions of masculinity and femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:56 PM |
| 2 | What rights do men have that women do not?Even if that was exaggerated twofold, it would be a serious discrepancy. The fact of the matter is that the best metric we have, and there is no counter evidence other than wishful thinking from rape apologists. Even if you only take the number of convicted rapes, there is a disparity. Women are simply more likely to be sexually assaulted and I very much doubt you can find anything to provide that suggests the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Life is good: you are a manI don't think it has much to do with not wanting to make people feel bad. Taking turns, listening to what someone has to say, then reacting to it is just courteous in conversation. I do around 50/50. However, everyone I commonly interact with is roughly the same there. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/08/16 01:57 PM |
| 2 | What rights do men have that women do not?I seriously doubt that the majority of sexual harassment reported is people doing as you say here. This link gives a breakdown of what is reported in the UK, unlike some of the news stories on the same study: One in three women (32 per cent) reported ‘unwelcome jokes of a sexual nature’ at work More than a quarter (28 per cent) received comments of a sexual nature about their body or clothes at work Nearly a quarter (23 per cent) were touched without consent at work, for example, a colleague’s h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:49 PM |
| 0 | What rights do men have that women do not?Sorry, but if people are, en mass, reporting more sexual harassment and violence then it's just poor form and despicable ethics to try and explain it away instead of taking it at face value - presumably so it can fit your narrative or you can ignore it. But nevermind, here is a random search result that took me around two seconds. Women are more likely to be assaulted (raped). Under 5% for men compared to over 15% for women. You really want to explain that away with feminist caricatures? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:20 PM |
| 0 | What rights do men have that women do not?Do you actually have any evidence to back that up? I hope you realise that counts as satire and isn't to be taken as what the vast majority of feminists think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:04 PM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?You're gonna dismiss it with no good reason or evidence? People will exaggerate anything, but I assure you there is rife harassment faced daily by enough women for them to just think it's normal. Ignoring the issue won't make it go away, nor will it make you right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 12:54 PM |
| 3 | What rights do men have that women do not?But if a woman is discriminated against when applying for a job (that's what it is) then something is wrong. It doesn't matter if there are benefits here or there for masculinity or femininity, the most experienced and qualified person should be hired regardless of gender and we have reason to believe that just isn't happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:32 AM |
| 1 | What rights do men have that women do not?I do know a lot of men who are just as un-assertive. I really don't think it's as simple as a gender divide anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:18 AM |
| 2 | What rights do men have that women do not?It's an unfortunate truth that women are more often the victim of random sexual harassment or assault. Violent assault? Depends where you live and perhaps on the colour of your skin more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Life is good: you are a manGod job I'm not a woman really or you'd almost maybe kinda have a point. Anyway, I'm not trying to bebate the point since you offered no evidence that women are reactionary I'm the first place. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/08/16 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsThe nice guy phenomenon is derided because those people aren't actually nice, they're expecting something in return. It's that expectation that makes it actually something more like veiled selfishness. If you genuinely try to self improve and act selflessly then you will be more attractive as a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is the profile of the typical Incel or ForeverAloneI didn't mean you specifically :p I mean if someone can get women if they have some or all of those traits, what's stopping incels from improving in areas that aren't set in stone? An attractive body is something anyone can do, anyone can learn better dress sense or get a makeover. I'm agreeing with you basically. The absolute worst thing they can do and the thing they unfortunately seem to do the most is just become depressed mysogynists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is the profile of the typical Incel or ForeverAloneSo basically you have any of the above? Incels really have no excuse then. At the very least they could try not being mysogynists as that's a pretty dire personality trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What is the profile of the typical Incel or ForeverAloneCommitment isn't something negative. I've had casual relationships and even been involved in poly stuff, but none of that is half a fulfilling as long term monogamy. Dedication is its own reward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:09 AM |
| 5 | Life is good: you are a manNo, but my experience is not unusual. More and more women are in work. More and more couples are in joint employment. It is also true that the division of labour is no longer as clearly defined along gender lines as it was. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-26/women-in-the-u-s-still-do-way-more-housework-than-men I picked a random article from the many you get doing a quick search on this. Here's an important point from the article: Women now make up almost half of the U.S. labor fo… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/08/16 12:56 AM |
| 6 | Life is good: you are a manIt's got nothing to do with me, I'm on about pretty much every woman I've ever met. These days, most halves of a couple work and, tbh, the women normally do all or more of the housework on top of that too. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/16 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Life is good: you are a manSeriously? Most of the women I know do not fit that description at all. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/16 10:53 PM |
| 8 | Life is good: you are a manI have to question if you've actually encountered any women to come to that conclusion. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/16 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsI'm not sidestepping around anything, I just don't see how you think you make any sense at all. Have I ever even mentioned moral deficiency? You keep bringing it up like I have. If you are lonely and you find yourself becoming more and more selfish, when what you want or feel you need it love/sex (if you didn't want this, I suspect you wouldn't be lonely) then it should (yes, should - save for mental impairment) be apparent with even the slightest introspection that there is a problem that being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 02:08 PM |
| -4 | Life is good: you are a manNot only is calling women parasites inaccurate, thinking that it's biologically driven is shabby science. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/16 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsIf it doesn't, that person isn't very good at self assessment or critical thinking. I never made any claim that people were somehow deserving of mistreatment, nor did I suggest it. You can claim it's apparent but I claim the opposite. A physical process is somewhat different from managing your state of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How would you feel if your long-term girlfriend/wife didn't want to have children?I'd argue that was a benefit and not a negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How would you feel if your long-term girlfriend/wife didn't want to have children?What are the negative aspects? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:06 PM |
| 3 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsAny sort of introspection should reveal that's what's happening. If you notice it, why fall into it? Selfishness won't help them. They can go that way if they want, but I don't see how it would help them be happy instead of just exacerbating the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:05 PM |
| 1 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?I'm glad to see at least someone else saying this here :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:01 PM |
| 1 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?I also don't get this. Even if you stumbled into a situation where you were at the highest risk of rape, it isn't your fault if it happens - the responsibility and the blame is always on the rapist and not the victim. Women should be able to dress, act and drink however they like and not be blamed for the actions of the criminals that assault them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 11:14 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How would you feel if your long-term girlfriend/wife didn't want to have children?The only upside? I can think of a lot of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 11:08 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How would you feel if your long-term girlfriend/wife didn't want to have children?I've never wanted children so it wouldn't bother me any way. i suspect a lot of people don't want children these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 11:04 AM |
| 5 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsThat sounds about right. When I volunteered with the Samaritans, there was a big mix of older right wing ladies and young alternative left wingers, but there was definitely a generational divide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsThat descent into selfishness should be something they see happening and can rectify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:10 AM |
| 3 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsIsn't part of that because donating to churches is considered charity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:08 AM |
| 4 | Selfless people have more sex, study findsI'd just like to point out: I'm on minimum wage and I give to charity every month. It's not like you have to be rich to donate. I used to volunteer a lot too, but haven't for around a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 09:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4all men who were raised by single mothers , how did it affect your dating life and other aspects of your dating life and your career life ?i honestly think it makes barely any difference either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Women slut shame the most, yet men are scolded for itI don't really know what you're getting at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 08:59 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Why do you think people in STEM and tech are so strongly represented in your numbers?To pretend that the majority of either side isn't emotional knee-jerk would probably be rather foolish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 09:41 AM |
| 13 | CMV: Rape never became considered a major issue in America because feminists focus on expanding the definition of rape, and not focusing on the worst cases of rape.There is an issue with rape severity but I wouldn't put it down to feminism. All rape is horrific, some rape is worse than other rape. That doesn't mean you can't take it all seriously. If people honestly fall into the trap of thinking rape isn't an issue because they think some of the examples are grey, those people are the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 09:34 AM |
| 11 | CMV: Rape never became considered a major issue in America because feminists focus on expanding the definition of rape, and not focusing on the worst cases of rape.It doesn't matter if someone acted stupidly, rape isn't excusable. You can't be 'asking for it' until you literally ask for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 09:31 AM |
| 4 | "Think Again: Men and Women Share Cognitive Skills"A better but less manageable way would be to actually spend a longer period of time assessing someone's competence. The reason we don't do this is because it's expensive and there are far too many students to actually find the time. A teacher is better placed to judge whether a student actually knows the material and understands it, but then we'd have a system where people are graded on the word of one potentially biased person... Even relying on coursework as opposed to tests has major flaws. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?Thankfully I think there is a lot more acceptance around things like Asperger Syndrome than there used to be. Still a long way to go though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 11:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?Outside of physical deformities or disabilities, I don't think it's possible to be so physically repugnant as to put off every woman out there. Not without total self neglect. Some people (men and women, importantly) put more importance into appearance than others - everyone else can accept someone for their 'inner beauty'. I think a large part of the problem is that so many TRP people have attitudes or personalities that are more unattractive to most women than physical ugliness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:01 PM |
| 6 | Are we breeding a generations of men incapable of successfully pursuing women?I know quite a few people in either polyamorous relationships or that only have friends with benefits arrangements, so I definitely support this view that people now have more options than entering monogamous relationships. Not that the latter is a bad choice, it's mine personally :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?Thinking it's all about getting sex completely ignores the other 99% of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?Whenever I see a comment like this I have to question if someone has ever even met a woman to believe such things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?A lot of those are either twisted or false. Women definitely get longer average lifespans, yeah. But the rest of it? Either your opinion or spin. The danger one especially stands out to me: Yeah, women are less at risk of things like gang violence but are disproportionately more affected by physical spousal abuse or rape. Different dangers doesn't equal a lack of danger. From everything I've seen, women definitely do not have it easier. Every time I go anywhere with my girlfriend, she's shouted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 09:57 AM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.A lot more could get done if people were more willing to reach across the political divide and Co operate, as opposed to the rabid tribalism and party politics that currently plagues virtually any developed country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 07:01 AM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.Actually, yes. Regularly. I don't think that 'war mentality' is a good thing tbh. I think politics could use a lot less of it especially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.I never claimed men and women were identical. That still doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated equally. Find me any concrete evidence that women are less capable of reason and you might have a point. However, again, men are just as oronevto emotional knee jerk political idiocy. A great example is the mass of ignorant and uninformed brexit voters over here who thought for some reason they were voting for stricter immigration. There's no point getting into the merits of testing when it's irreleva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.Yes. Discrimination on the grounds of gender is, by definition, sexism (with misogyny being the dislike, or prejudice towards, women). Thankfully you aren't like to get your way. Not only is that pretty despicable as a position, but it ignores reality at the same time. Men are more likely to be under and also more likely to be above average in terms of intelligence than women. That is to say that women are more often than not nominal. If you were to disallow people from voting based on intellige… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP can save lives, BP lies are very dangerous and ruin livesI don't agree it is a cult, but it would be incorrect to assume that a cult has anything to do with the extremeness of its beliefs also. I was pointing out how that was not a straw man argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.You run with logic to a point, then seem to collapse into a pool of misogyny. Yeah, that's the course of events, but your conclusions border on lunacy. Most people are stupid. Man or woman. That's no argument that a whole gender shouldn't get the vote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 04:55 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP can save lives, BP lies are very dangerous and ruin livesThat isn't a strawman :/ It's a description of TRP. One you might disagree with, but not a strawman regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 04:49 PM |
| 0 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.What an absurd and frankly idiotic viewpoint. Have you ever actually spoken to a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 04:35 PM |
| 0 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.Because, at the time the movement started, women were almost always the group with fewer rights. Yes, it's a movement for equality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/16 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.Have you? I explained how it's the same thing, I pointed out the flaw in thinking that movements were useless in favour of advancing technology. You didn't refute. I suspect you can't (since you're wrong). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Question4all: What is love?For me, it's the feeling that someone else is truly and completely real. Life can blow by in a misty haze like you're half asleep, but even the thought of this person can rouse you to hyper-awareness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.You think they're taking credit for it? Let alone the fact that you ignored most of what I said, you seem to be making up an image of what feminists/feminism is and attacking that with no evidence beyond a vague hatred. Why are you making a distinction between what individuals achieve and what their affiliated groups contribute to equal rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Women slut shame the most, yet men are scolded for itI really don't think that line of thought is common enough to be considered a mainstream feminist opinion, more like a straw-man for the purposes of undermining feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:41 PM |
| 1 | There is no romantic loveSurely if something is romanticised then it's romantic by definition? I think this is just grasping at straws with definitions here. What's clear is that there's a feeling most people can vaguely agree to define that isn't simply sexual attraction and isn't just friendship. Whatever you want to call that, most people call it love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.The fact you just call it shouting is telling, and shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Freeing up more time does not bring matters of inequality into the public sphere for debate. Civil rights, women's rights, gay rights... all of those things have been furthered by organised (loosely or tightly) groups with an agenda. Feminism is the amalgam of those people that wanted to achieve change, doing it as a group. That's it. That's all it is. The distinction you draw is ill placed and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.When people are reliant on the state that's a symptom and not a cause. Equality of opportunity has nothing to do with quotas so I'm not sure why that was mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.Allowing women the vote was one major step. It's hard to change things when you have no say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 05:46 PM |
| 0 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.You can't expect feminists to agree what it means when it's such a large movement. Equally, you can't expect broad generalisations against the movement to be taken seriously either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.It isn't a false premise, the way culture was set up was a false premise. Gender roles didn't simply follow along biological distinctions. Equality of opportunity isn't something to be shunned since the previous state of affairs was less fair on both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 05:42 PM |
| 1 | Why I don't agree with the premise that Feminism equates to simply a belief in equality between men and women.It's named as it's named because of it's history. You don't simply drop a name that's got that kind of recognition for PR purposes. Yeah, I'd rather it was called something more neutral but there it is. Simply because it's such a broad church I'm sure you could snipe some examples of places where something is out of line, that isn't an indictment of the movement as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does every man need TRP?You've got a way of twisting the debate, for sure. I never said self interest is immoral, it isn't. But it most certainly can be when it's at the expense of others as a lot of the wash that spills out of TRP is. If you honestly believe that men are better leaders and harder workers... wow. That's unfortunate. Similarly, you appear to have glanced over the part where i said the right has a clear mandate to rule in Israel, I was simply arguing that there is a left wing. It grows in places, as does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Does every man need TRP?if you have to eschew 'conventional wisdom' and act as TRP suggests in order to be successful, I'd argue that you're finding that success at the expense of morality. Despite the fact that they're more often than not the butt of jokes, what is wrong with the SJW outlook? It's not really accurate to say that there isn't a left wing in Israel. There are a lot of parties represented in the Knesset and, while it's clear that the political right has mandate to rule, their centre left party has nearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Neomasculinity Vs Extreme Feminism - Compare and ContrastYou'll struggle to define either as they are decentralised movements with no concrete set of values. Self identification doesn't even help particularly because two very opposed people might find themselves under the same umbrella term. It gets even more complex when some people who fit the ideology don't identify with the label most people would attribute to them. Then my main point - I believe the most vocal side of either movement is likely to represent the extreme fringes. You end up with a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/16 12:37 PM |
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