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Fair.
/r/MensRights26/09/16 04:14 AM
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Why?
/r/MensRights26/09/16 03:03 AM
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I mean most men want women to be sluts, or at least I do. I actually make sure I hi-five my female friends when they have sex or romantic interactions and things. I just want them to feel comfortable doing whatever it is that they want to do. Moreover the only time I have felt like a woman is/was a slut was when she would sleep with guys one after the other (like a new one every month) but the reason I felt that she was a slut was because she was using them and would have them buy her things or …
/r/MensRights03/09/16 09:17 AM
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I am particularly fond of the 'a survey found', knowing full well that I can manipulate both the questions I present, the way I present my data and the way I ask my questions and who I ask. For example if I ask after/outside a 'take back the night' rally, I'm going to get a very high rate of sexual assault victims, whereas if I ask after a law lecture I'm going to get a very different result.
/r/MensRights01/08/16 11:01 PM
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I do think while this IS sarcastic there is a small amount of truth to it. I think relational breakdowns are the fault of both parties. I'm not saying there isn't sometimes that there is more fault on one party or another. But if you both work at it you could make it work, but often both choose to not.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/07/16 04:15 AM
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I was onboard with the video from reading the title, but really, I think what is most important about being a men's rights activists is that we don't pontificate and marginalis, devalue and dehumanise women. This is what I at least hate the most about a lot of the feminist movement. I think we can do better than just being the anti-feminists, we can walk alongside our fellow (hu)man but still speak and educate about our issues that we face. I really feel like these VLOG's that are just angry and…
/r/MensRights04/07/16 02:11 PM
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I have no problem with this, in fact more power to them. I agree there are likely many ways that women are oppressed by society. However if you are going to pretend that feminism is about anything other than advancing the female agender I'll take issue with you. And if you say you are for gender equality I'll point out the ways that women get the better end of the pineapple. Let's be real for a moment, everyone get's a pineapple, some are bigger than others, some are more spiky, but everyone get…
/r/MensRights12/05/16 10:44 PM
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I could maybe buy this if it was just straight males that were left out but gay men, seriously, I don't even understand why a group that is anti-oppression would be oppressing any members of society be them straight or gay or anything. How can we know if we have gone too far and are now oppressing the once oppressors if we don't have an avenue or mechanism to ensure they are not being oppressed. Particularly given much of the oppression faced today is not deliberate or active oppression but rath…
/r/MensRights23/03/16 12:51 AM
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If I have sex with someone because I want to please them, then I have wanted sex, sure I don't get any direct gratification from that act but I do get the indirect gratification of it. Why do people give oral sex, they can't say that they enjoy the stimulation of their mouth/tongue. They/I might get a slight direct gratification from it but for the most part it is indirect, I know I am pleasing someone that I want to please.
/r/MensRights23/03/16 12:46 AM
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Um, I take your point, and I don't KNOW the statistics well enough to refute what you are saying. However I would expect/suspect that it is not the case, abortions have gotten safer at a greater rate than childbirth. Keep in mind we are looking at a 50 or so year period. But I take you point.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 03:36 AM
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A while ago I did a through experiment on this topic. And while I would be cautious about advocating this position, there is some logic to a position that require both parties to a child to provide informed consent; to do otherwise is putting the rights of one gender above the other. The argument against this is something along the lines of 'men consent to the consequences of sex when they consent to having sex', but you could also reverse this and just as easily make the assumption that 'women …
/r/MensRights10/03/16 10:40 PM
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The suffix 'man' often comes from the root meaning person performing the duty/task of.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 06:00 AM
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I'm going to assume it's a troll... Or at least hope.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 10:16 PM
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But that's not the point. It's some what disjointed to say we want women to be able to be topless anytime anywhere and here is a thing to facilitate that, oh but the anytime is without any men being around. I further don't consider the argument of 'I feel comfortable with 50 strange women but not with men'.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 10:09 PM
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This is very much not a fair assent of the positions of feminists. I think the best method is to read published works and examine the discussion points raised there. Debates are unfair because (if you are good at least) you can manipulate your opposition into talking ridiculous positions by moving where the debate truly is concerned. Moreover the whole point of the debate is to make the argument against the other side rather than truly engaging. As to thoe that have poo-pooed the Oxford debating…
/r/MensRights03/09/15 11:32 PM
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I am not settled on the idea that Feminism is about equal rights. Or at very least it is not any longer about equal rights. But the very nature of the name alone it is about feminine rights, while yes there are many aspects where they do need advancing this doesn't lend itself towards equality one the whole. I much prefer the terms Equalism / Equalist or Equalitarianism / Equalism. These better reflect the nature of the position.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 08:20 AM
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After way too much thought I have come to the conclusion that if each party leaves the seat and lid down everyone dose the same amount of work as they require. Females have to lift the lid. Males have to lift the lid and seat.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:56 AM
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You can't please all of the people all of the time.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:27 AM
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By this logic it should/could be argued that people should pay the same for insurance regardless of age. The next step would be to removed the geographic discrimination. I can't see this going down well with insurance companies.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 11:34 PM
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You lived on the property enacting the live on the property, at no time was the prenuptial enacted until the devoice. In one case the prenuptial is simply remaining dormant (like a what happens if) in the other case the lease agreement is active because you are living on the property, the marriage is also active because both parties are engaging in the marriage.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 11:47 PM
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The agreement to marry is distinct from the agreement to the prenump.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 11:33 PM
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The issue is your actions would indicate otherwise, you live in the apparent.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 06:57 AM
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I doubt that would fly here in Australia, and it really shouldn't in the US, what should be evaluated is: Is the person intending to be legally bound by this agreement. Is the agreement against any Laws at the time of agreement. Duress really shouldn't be an issue here as they obviously intend to be bound by the agreement, otherwise the man doesn't want to get married. By extension of the logic the mirage could be not legally binding as the man only intended to enter in to the mirage under the p…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 03:12 AM
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This is an example that I have recently looked at in contract Law while not criminal law I'm certain the same principles would apply. “actual” versus “constructive” knowledge – what you actually knew versus what you should have known. The can also apply to what you feel for the issue of coercion, what you felt versus what you should have felt. Or what a reasonable person would have felt. I would be interested to see what the response to the original thread is like.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 01:00 AM
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I wouldn't suggest pressing charges as this could inflame the situation, perhaps a strongly worded letter from a solicitor could persuade her to change her tune. I would simply have a chat to a solicitor and see what they think. See a few solicitors many will have a 'the first hour is free' policy to attract clients, go with one that you feel comfortable with.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 07:31 AM
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This is not permanent, it works for about 10 years, and is reversible.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 10:51 PM
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You may be interested in this...
/r/MensRights07/03/13 01:32 PM
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I think many men are aware of the risks that are involved in being in a relationship and having sex. I feel that many men are aware of the risks but are too afraid of them to admit them to themselves or allow them to think about them, for this reason I think this is not calculated or measured. I think men tend to ignore the consequences because the truth would make it far too difficult to have relationships. Additionally when the risks are in front of mind they are often viewed as being a part o…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 12:04 PM
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Thanks for missing my point bro. :-P
/r/MensRights20/02/13 08:33 PM
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Why should the restrooms be set-up like that? It sounds an awful lot like what happened with blacks and whites... my logic if you can't swap out gender and put in race or people with disabilities or the elderly (without practical reasons intercepting) it should not be happening.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 05:01 AM
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Being a Lady, far to often people confuse being a woman and being a lady... Ladies and gentlemen! Not guys and gals. wiki A lady is a woman who is the counterpart of a lord, or of a gentleman.
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:16 PM
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I apologise to my girlfriend even if she is wrong, just because you are right doesn't mean you were not an ass. Often the way that I try to push that I was right is inappropriate for this I apologise for. I think you are reading a little too far into this.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 03:19 AM
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exactly what I came here to say, I don't like it when MR put the shoe on the other foot, just because they do it doesn't mean we can or should. Penis is a medical/scientific term thus Vagina should be its counterpart. Rise up and be better than your opponent. What do you achieve by stooping to there level.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 08:17 PM
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It's amazing how many laws are actually illegal. ... or simply not enforced.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 04:00 AM
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I would disagree and suggest that victims could also prevent sexual assault, (not suggesting they should need to) if a victim avoids potential risk factors this would surely reduce the overall incidents of sexual assault. I am not suggesting that victims should need to mealy that it is possible.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 07:10 AM
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Please we should have a serious list of female privilege, please don't include anything that can't be quantified.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 11:47 AM
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I do think that it is a bit tough to be put in the situation where you have been mislead and suddenly find your self asked questions you have no intention of answering. I am referring to a personal situation however I am sure there are a number of men that are set-up to fail by a system that leaves eminence power in the hands of one in a relationship involving two. While I did attempt to suggest that we were not ready (nether or use were as testified by many around us at the time) and perhaps an…
/r/MensRights17/01/13 09:01 AM
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True, I think a number of people would have intervened. I must admit I would/will intervene and ensure that people are de-escalating however I have had training in that type of thing. I work in disability support and we get quite a number of 'difficult' clients.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 06:46 AM
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I think this is a perfect example of why men are often ignored, as at least in this case she presented little threat to him, and he could have killed her had he chosen.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 06:20 AM
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We need to listen first before we can expect anyone to listen to us.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:18 AM
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I have always contested this idea, my girlfriend and I both get really drunk and have sex, we both (while, prior and after being drunk) consent to having sex. However according to this logic we have both been raped; can we both be charged, should we both go to prison (each for the same amount of time?). This logic simply can not exist, yet it is drummed into men everywhere.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:40 PM
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If sperm donor's are liable for child support you will likely see many would be donors simply will not donate. Or there will be contractual arrangements made to avoid this liability. People that donate will either not be liable or not donate.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 04:57 AM
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Just prey they down-vote brigade don't hunt you down!
/r/MensRights15/12/12 09:12 AM
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What about the sentencing of children while I know and understand that a child won't and can't have the same level of responsibility for actions as adults, however in Australia at least there are children that are fully aware of the law and continue to flaunt it. An example of this is a friend of my brother would commit small crimes, petty theft and so on, knowing full well that until he turns 16 there is no way he can be tried as an adult and once he turns 18 his record will be sealed and it wi…
/r/MensRights07/12/12 10:45 PM
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I have documented evidence from my current partner to this effect. There are also a number of witnesses to these conversations; my partner is fully aware of these and supports them. Her reply to them is you have to protect yourself and me from making a bad decision.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:59 AM
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I have used that statement to insult girls, incidentally the girl I say that to most throws much better / stronger than I ever could. (She plays state cricket.)
/r/MensRights06/12/12 02:04 AM
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I would like to point out that some of the best sex I have had (from the opinion of my partner) has been somewhat shorter than typical, additionally sometimes when sex lasts too long it is only frustrating for both of us.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 01:28 PM
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The situation typically goes arises at a party when his girlfriend is not there. This is not uncommon when you have a group of friends, an ex or something.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 04:29 AM
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A perfect example of this (I know girls that have done this) is when a girl will 'get a guy drunk' and sleep with him to break him up with his girlfriend.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 01:31 AM
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It is not as if you can be prosecuted for making a line call, you wouldn't be prosecuted is your clams are simply within reasonable doubt, it would be for cases where people have clearly forsworn (is the willful act of swearing a false oath or affirmation to tell the truth, whether spoken or in writing, concerning matters material to a judicial proceeding). The issue is not about encourage or discouraging victims it is about maintaining the integrity of the judicial system and prevent the miscar…
/r/MensRights23/11/12 07:37 AM
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I get nit-picky about this too, I spend 15 minuets beating my girlfriend for calling it the mothers room... Seriously though she isn't going to call it the mothers room again, she is going to call it the parents room. (Note I didn't beat her I just got a little upset with her and told her how it makes me feel as a single Dad to go to the 'mothers room' and that it is humiliating at times to see the looks I get when I take my little boy to the bathroom.)
/r/MensRights21/11/12 12:44 PM
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I would just like to say, I was in an abusive relationship and I at times didn't feel safe, I didn't have anywhere to go... In addition to that, I have on a number of occasions felt threatened by women (or an individual woman). I have a friend that was cleaned up by a woman (punched). So this assertion that females can't be threatening to men is simply wrong. I should add that I am not in anyway timed or sheeted, I went to boarding school and got into my fair share of fights with the other boys …
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:42 AM
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Dude that is the funniest post I have seen on MR all week.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 11:06 PM
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I was trying to suggest they'll have your baby with out your consent.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 08:38 AM
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This should be x-posted to /r/humanrights.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 04:16 AM
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I feel that /r/MensRights has lost it's way, it should not be /r/anti-feminism while I do agree feminism is an issue, our focus should not be on those opposed but rather on ourselves.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:31 AM
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No, no execution if they have there way.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:23 AM
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I know a women that felt very empowered by making men pay her for takeing her cloths off, I have no problem with these relationships how is really in power? The man giving up his hard earned money or the woman that is showing off her amazing body; that she gets paid to keep in grate shape. Additionally (the same girl), loves that she can take peoples money and have sex... she gets paid to have sex, why is this an issue if she wants to.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:04 PM
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It really isn't an issue the person making the statement clearly doesn't have any kind of understanding of the concepts involved. The uneducated have the right to an opinion but that doesn't make it valid.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 02:08 PM
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Are Women not able to say no? Are women mindless automatons that require men, that require men have sex with them... that require commitment? Women clearly want to do this too otherwise they wouldn't, if a place is 'dangerous' or a bit dodgy, if women suspect there drink has been spiked, then they will tell there friends and not go there again. I think there needs to be a little bit of onus put on both sides. Also I should point out that a friend of my girlfriend and I (really her friend but min…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 08:24 AM
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I love that you make that link, I have often through of feminism as being akin to religion.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:38 AM
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You may want to use an Oxford comma after capable, making it 'strong, capable, and independent' just ensuring that capable and independent are not through to be the one item.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:36 AM
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I hate to say it but the best thing to do in this situation is to just give the teacher what she wants. If she escalates it firstly it is your opinion (I suspect you wrote accordingly), and secondly you would have to have written something pretty bad for there to be a reason to suspend you, perhaps (if you have a copy of what you wrote available, take it to a third party (a male teacher perhaps) and show them (in confidence make sure you tell them that) and see what they think. Honestly the easi…
/r/MensRights10/11/12 10:26 AM
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Thank you, I honestly think the biggest issue facing our population (I am from Australia and am talking about our population however I am most cretin it would translate across) is mental health. I am sure if you look into the statics you will find that suicide is ranked quite highly. And these are at least 80% preventable, if you also factor in a fudge factor for people that commit suicide by other means this number will grow. Additionally the death toll will not indicate the loss to the economy…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 01:02 PM
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You are correct however the thing that really annoys me is when you get organisations like the NFL doing a 'pink for breast cancer awareness' I sit there screaming at the TV everyone know's what breast cancer is everyone knows to get screened. Why not have mental health awareness or something like that. It just pisses me off to see awareness being generated for possibly the best publicized illness going around yet things like mental health that kill far more people than the many of the high publ…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 07:59 AM
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Let's apply this to other crimes? The suspected thief has their name published so people that may have also been victims come forward. The argument is much like those for the sexual predator registries... you will likely see an increase in accusations more than likely many or most will be false. Additionally if these methods are so effective why aren't they applied to every criminal?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:38 AM
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Will this bill also prevent women from having their tubes tied and being able to take contraception, because the potential life that could be created is just as valuable as the current life. Honestly I don't really know where I stand on this debate however shouldn't people have the right to chose, is not the government supposed to govern not inflict social or religious views and/or ideologies of the members leat along the wider community. Thusly I feel that every person should have the right to …
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:53 AM
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Get a stat dec from your friend more or less saying that you didn't rape her, having someone to corroborate your position is exceedingly valuable when you consider that it is her word against yours, also take notes of her attitude the next morning, your friend will be useful here, showing that she was not distressed even if she was unable to consent due to on drugs or just crazy your friend will be able to vouch for the fact that there was nothing apparent to prevent her from consenting... You a…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:35 AM
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I like Pendulum they rock!
/r/MensRights28/10/12 02:35 PM
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I don't really care, if they want to promote incompetent employees and have to spend more money training that is fine with me.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 04:05 AM
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Yeah, can I get one too. I work in an almost exclusively female workplace, and I am all but certain I have not gotten promotions because of my gender.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 10:55 PM
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I many european countries the courts look at a parent's ability to provide for the child, rather than have the non-custodial parent pay to enable them to provide.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 02:56 AM
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I agree entirely, I wish people would realise that you won't create positive change easily with negative actions. I will quote Wil Wheaton: 'don't be a dick', Wil was talking about atheism here but it can easily apply to gender issues if you beat someone with their opinion they are simply going to dig in. 'You must be the biggest moron in the world, how could you be any more of an idiot?' 'oh how silly of me... I am clearly mistaken. I should now listen to what you are saying?' - Said no one eve…
/r/MensRights14/10/12 02:14 PM
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I don't think this is the place for content like this... Perhaps an SRS would be more appropriate.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 12:47 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Genderbias/ I created this for exactly what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights05/10/12 05:08 AM
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I honestly don't see the reson we have male and female barthrooms. We are all adults right and if we aren't shouldn't they be using the children's barthroom?
/r/MensRights30/09/12 01:39 AM
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I am really pleased to see a woman (I am assuming you are a woman as you stated in your post) posting and contributing to this sub-reddit, I for one hope to see more girls actively participating in this forum. As to what was in your post, I agree it is not idea but I think if we dwell on those kinds of issues rather than focusing on ourselves treating everyone (more or less) the same we end up falling down the extreme feminism line and I am doubtful anyone wants that. On a personal note, it has …
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:39 PM
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I do think that there is a certain logic to the school of thought that if you don't were provocative clothing you are lowering the risk of being sexual assaulted, everyone acknowledges that red cars get pulled over more than the poo gold (typically called champagne). Why is it so hard for as to acknowledge that it may reduce the risk of sexual assault. (If there is research that contradicts what I am saying please feel free to let me know about it, I would love to read it; and be wrong.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 10:54 AM
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Perhaps r\mensrights should be weary of this too. Some of what is said on here is a little over the top, I understand 'we have to defend our rights' but lets not be menenists (yes I just made that up. Did you like it; I quite like it), I would remind you this was originally a place for support not condemnation. If I am wrong on this please tell me so I can unsubscribe.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 01:44 PM
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I feel that for boy's same sex schooling does not work, boys are better served to have girls there to prevent them from becoming too unruly, however for schools that produce men these experiences can be invaluable I personally went to an excellent all male grammar school, I think that there is easily an element of unruly and negative behaviour (bulling ect.) however I think that is related to the size of the school and the culture of the school. I always strive to be the up-most gentlemen and to…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 05:29 AM
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I have read a number of comments and I am probably going to be downvoted for saying this however /r/MensRights is getting a little too 'We hate females/feminism' at all costs and thus becoming what you are fighting against. I love to see the support for men in terrible situations but I have much disdain for becoming what you are fighting. Now on to my comment: I think the key thing here is to have a good relationship all these things illustrate what happens when you make bad decisions with regar…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 05:20 AM
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I would also like to point out that the men in question were a nurse and a fire-fighter, and by all accounts upstanding members of there communities. And would likely have blue cards.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 09:55 AM
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Try contacting your local member or a small media out let to get some 'play time' and hope that your story will be listend to; don't accept that no is an answer. You must fight the AVO. I do understand that it is innocent until proven guilty but with an AVO it makes everything from there almost impossible, perhaps contact your local police station to see what you can do create a stat dec with regards to an alibi perhaps try reposting in your local /r/law perhaps if you were to give your location…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:26 AM
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Surely it would be worse for someone to be physically forced to have sex, than someone that does not have the capacity to consent agree to have sex (a really drunk man agreeing to cheat on his girlfriend when he wouldn't normally do so if he was sober). On a side note I think that the latter is not looked at enough and really should be considered rape however I suspect is rarely considered rape.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:16 AM
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How is this passable did you consent or not; moreover did you 'disconsent' or deny consent. it really should be quite clear you either agree to have sex with someone or you don't. Perhaps there could be sexual assault where the preliterate something that you did not consent to but rape is quite cut and dry in my opinion you either consent to having sex or you don't; otherwise it really should be sexual assault. Once again I am not trying to attack I am attempting to understand the logic behind t…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:07 AM
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I don't understand; you agreed to have sex after after someone had been flirting with you. You then discover he had committed sex crimes and this can retrospectively change if consent was given. What happened to people being responsible for themselves. If you say no it is rape, if you agree because you think he is rich and change your mind when you see him driving a mercury that is dumb. I am sorry if this feels like an attack however there is no way in my mind that if consent is given that it c…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 09:14 PM
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If someone is misled into having sex it can be viewed as rape. I remember a man was prosecuted for rape because he ticked a woman into thinking sex was a life saving treatment (and he had her pay him $15,000 for it). The rape charges were quashed because it was resalable that the woman should have known that sex is not a medical treatment. He however was found guilty for defrauding her.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 10:00 AM
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I really think that the trash talk has gone too far, I can only hope that we take more of a stand against the level of trash talking. Perhaps Nintendo will show everyone else how you can manage it so people are not quite such vulgar dicks. I honestly do not play online much because of this 'trash talk'. When I play with my friends yeah I will trash talk... but it is things like 'BOOM head shoot' and 'oh I am sorry had you just spawned'.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 12:32 AM
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No Dictionary.com simply tend to not move with such sloth.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 09:59 PM
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It is because we don't have boobs, kids love boobs...
/r/MensRights13/08/12 12:30 PM
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That was an oversight on my part, I apologise.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 06:05 AM
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Oh PS please feel free to comment (and probably get band) but make sure it is positive and constructive; we need to not sink to there level.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 04:40 AM
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Taken form the ABS on Crime (I can't quote it or the table wont work) Male Female Persons Sex of offender Male 6.3 8.5 5.3 Female 16.6 12.6 11.8 Some male, some female 22.0 26.6 17.5 Sex unknown 57.1 0.0 57.1
/r/MensRights10/08/12 07:43 AM
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You guys may want to read this.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 07:07 AM
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Follow up question is there something more pointed that you can call a person that is a 'man hater' and is overly in support for woman's rights. misogynist comes to mind when women are involved. edit: Wikipedia is brilliant Misandry!
/r/MensRights10/08/12 01:40 AM
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Aren't we sinking to there levels be even giving a dam, I don't see how this is a big deal if someone can enlighten me that would be wonderful.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 12:10 AM
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