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Not true. Girls flake no matter what In my experiences id say the longest meaningful connectful interactions got me the most flakes Interactions can't be hyper short. And trying to form a genuine connection with a girl is an amateur mistake. Its a waste of time. They're not going to convert Keep your interactions like a movie trailer. The people in that business know how to captivate a persons attention. Follow examples of professionals
/r/seduction15/07/22 08:21 PM
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Approach girls anywhere. But being successful requires several quantity of approaches. Not quality. Its a numbers game, 1/85 date Clothing stores. Parks. Beaches. Gyms. Book stores. Libraries. Coffee shops. Bars. Gas stations. Convenience stores. Parking lots. Malls. Grocery stores. Transit centers. University campus. Window shopping streets Ive approached over 100s of girls in each of these places
/r/seduction15/07/22 08:13 PM
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Now a days nearly all guys are beta. So you dont need to "filter" for sexual girls. Just by being upfront, direct, respectful gets you laid. Youre better off avoiding sexual innuendos. It's unnecessary Getting laid requires more of a game plan. Where are you meeting them. Is the date short. Does the date end back at your place a few blocks down. Be sex focused not date focused Also know that most girls arent going to hook up with you regardless. Most aren't going to want to go back to your place…
/r/seduction15/07/22 07:23 PM
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Girls want to see if you're the real deal. Are you really that alpha. Or was it just luck. Always respond on the alpha affirmative(even if it was luck). If she keeps asking, keep confirming it. Dont let her break you. Expect a few rounds of back and forth with it. Dont be cocky but do be confident. She'll give in if you stand your ground. Then game her as normal
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:40 PM
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Be non reactive. It happens. Keep trying and see what happens. Some do convert. But if you're going to get emotional just move on dont bother
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:34 PM
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Nope. Do what you need to do but always carry a phone. You always need a back up plan
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:31 PM
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Smoothies, coffee, fast food sandwiches, parks, short walk trails, in car listening to music, shaved ice booths chill outside. Feed ducks at a pond, arcade(billiards, air hockey). Sex. Idk
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:27 PM
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Depends on the location. Other than that its extremely rare
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:20 PM
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Saying hi is the success. But its important to realize that approaching girls and being successful at it requires a ton of rejection. And a ton of L's. Theres no way around it You wouldve needed ×99 more of those conversations to actually get a girl to meet you When approaching girls(no matter how your interaction went): Majority of numbers aren't going to meet up Majority of dates aren't going to see you again Majority of dates aren't going to hook up with you
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:40 PM
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You don't need them. Save your money Mike mehlman
/r/seduction09/07/22 09:03 PM
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Was a really good night. Beats staying inside alone not taking action. Good for you. You'll get it down one day
/r/seduction09/07/22 09:01 PM
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Girls get hit on all the time. Party or no party. In the end they usually leave you for someone better that had been talking to them for a while. Girls just keep quiet about it. It's a process for them. Thats how dating works with girls But the majority who are in a relationships won't dump their guy that easily no matter how many dozens of guys hit on them
/r/seduction09/07/22 08:32 PM
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Its why you never hit on girls who are working. You oughtta be ashamed of yourself. And obviously she lied. She doesnt like you. Shes paid to be nice to you. Its a facade and now you look foolish
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:54 PM
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Being asked if you're gay every now and then is a compliment. Guys just hate it though Its why some guys avoid to over dress and wear accessories in fear of getting called gay. So they think that under dressing with generic brand clothes that dont fit them is better
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:51 PM
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Title says it all. Dont need to analyze anything. She ghosted. Move on. If anything truly meant anything you wouldnt be here posting about what went wrong. Didnt work. Move on
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:31 PM
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The very inexperienced guy sees rejection as binary. Got rejected, bad. Didn't get rejected, good Guys who actually get girls know that rejection is the prerequisite for positive outcomes. You CANT get a number without x amount of rejections. And you CAN NOT get a date without x amount of numbers first. So they dont avoid rejection. They embrace it and are actually looking for it. Numbers and dates follow after many rejections. Never before it!! With that said. Cold approach is a numbers game. Y…
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:18 PM
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How about you just answer everything that was mentioned. Because OP couldn't. Everything I stated is right there as credible as you can get So if you and OP dont have any real answer then don't even bother. Just like how I told him. It's your mentality that needs to change. Dunno how many more beginner guys doing cold approach will convince you guys. Its already rare to find them keeping stats Sorry you been lied to. But 100 approaches doesn't get you several dates. It's a lie... Unless you have…
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:43 AM
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Yes i'm the one trolling with evidences And then you just copy & paste the same response once youve lost your point lol. Like how old are you really? Not 34 my guy You clearly havent had an answer for anything. Rather, no I'm the problem. I need 100$ bootcamps and eworkshops. "Im a special case" 🤑🤑 Go ahead and teach your pua gospel. That they can do better than other beginners who already have the experience and r +7/10 smv getting dates Its not believable for anyone who care for the evidences.…
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:57 PM
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Of coarse it discredits your post. You havent provided any proof of how its actually relevant to beginners All whats stated is that, "you did so well" so you should believe me. Lol that's just not how it works I on the other hand have shown at least 3 sources all proving you wrong. Its relatable and more consistent because we are all beginners. You're level is different. So you don't speak for us If you can provide anything of substance and not just claim it, then it'd be different As it stands,…
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:27 PM
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It doesnt take much to be above average. Youve said it yourself. Anyone really trying to get into game knows this. Its not like this is new information Youre just trying to find these excuses. Because I for one dont have a problem with it. That's what happens when you don't have accurate enough information. You start doubting everything. That there's a reason to it all. That last thing you check is realizing that it's your logic that messed up Crazy that a beginner has to tell you that Here are …
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:04 PM
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Well hate to break to you. But the evidence i posted(if you even bothered) were from guys having 100s of approaches. So although still beginners... We have that experience to where we can can go up to any girl and just conversate naturally As far as smv goes. We're not losers bro. We at minimum the very least 7/10. Which is already justified as way more than enough Respectfully the evidence is there. Its just not true
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:52 PM
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Having 100s of approach testimonials of actual beginners just debunks that. You dont need to convince me of anything and explain. Nor I to you What i posted speaks for itself. Am i gonna believe a a single little post, or actual 100s of statistics already done and recorded by beginners There's just nothing to explain. The evidence is there bud. Its already accepted beginners get a number every 10 approaches. Really dont know what you're arguing Theres another guy on reddit. Proper guy. Did 75 ap…
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:36 PM
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So out 100 girls about 40% are available give or take. That means that when you go out and see an attractive hot girl or any okay girl be rest assured shes ~50% single? Lmao ok ya sure Then from 1/3, (30) girls that are single... You can manage to get everyone of their numbers? Wtf am i reading lmao Very unrealistic and crazy if people think this! Dont take my word for it! Here are statistics of beginner/intermediate guys cold approaching their first few 100s. Testimonials of guys having done th…
/r/seduction26/06/22 03:05 PM
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Thanks. Ill go right over and debunk it why its not true with stats(hyperlinks) from us intermediates. Easy
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:31 PM
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Its not about you being beta. You can be extremely alpha but still recognize what these girls are doing Sorry for your lose. But i think you just romanticized her and you then turned against game by giving in. And she got want she wanted and lost interest That's just my opinion what probably happened. But in any case. Just move on. And goodluck
/r/seduction26/06/22 02:20 PM
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Online dating actually works the best. I'd recommend this. Sounds what youre looking for. There is no better https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-guide/ Coaching videos are heavily embellished. They just show the good. But what they dont show or want to admit is that they got rejected dozens upon dozens of times before they finally took that girl from the street
/r/seduction25/06/22 10:03 PM
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Girls drink all days. Depends on your location. Just start going out and feel the places out an see what you find. It also helps if you see a bar thats more your style and makes you feel at home. Girls of the same type will be there. Like will always select for like (so thats half the battle) But you can approach anyone. If you're looking to be more efficient at meeting people itd be in social environments
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:52 PM
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Expect girls to deflect you once or twice as the norm. Its to be expected A lot of times they like a guy that has some points in beta qualities who will keep going after them in your situation. They subconsciously are filtering guys out who wouldn't be providers in the long term. So if you just leave and get mad then you just failed her test
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:43 PM
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Yes it is inappropriate to hit on service workers that are paid to make you feel like you matter. Dont mistake their gestures for anything more
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:35 PM
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Its a numbers game no matter how you approach. But try to be yourself. It takes a lot of approaches and a ton of rejection to finally get a girl to meet up with you In cold approach its 1 out of 100. But it's a lot less if you go to bars where girls are open to socialize with guys and sleep with them Out of 100 girls i cold approach as a beginner. I get 15 numbers. Less than half are fake. And girls flake a lot. So all that is needed to get me one date. I've rinse and repeated it several times. …
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:18 PM
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Move on. Only giving him the option that he can contact you if he'd like. Guys aren't in demand. Girls are
/r/seduction25/06/22 08:17 PM
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So pretty much how to game girls in customer service.. You dont
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:42 PM
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Just delete this. Something wrong with you for wanting to know if they enjoy getting beat. Got anything better to do?
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:24 PM
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She wants to know if youre the real deal. Are you really that alpha or was it just luck. She wants to confirm this based on your answer The best way to respond is on the affirmitive as the alpha and jokingly "So do you hit on all the girls?" Yes all the time! Just playing "So do you really then?" Of coarse. Next easy question, im kidding Answer something along those lines. Its stupid but thats the type of answer they're wanting
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:09 PM
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You dont have to ask for their name at all. Cold approach is purely a numbers game. Hardly anything you do will change that You can approach them very indirectly and in the end ask them if, "they want to grab a drink sometime?" Thats it!! No name exchanges. No reason as to why you were even there. On the contrary. If she is invested in the idea she'd want to know what made you ask her out. Or will ask you for your name. So its actually an effective type of approach The take away is. You dont hav…
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:18 AM
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Well I wasn't truly happy to not break up with my gf at the time for it(But i did see a future with her). It was uncomfortable at first being single. But I believed being in the game was only going to come great things. Fast forward several years it was worth it
/r/seduction23/06/22 11:41 PM
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Rejection is a prerequisite for getting numbers, dates, gfs, and hook ups. It's normal and actually precedes positive outcomes. The non needy male knows it and isnt trying to avoid it by any means Although i can explain to you how rejection for the most part will have nothing to do with you. If you're really wanting to be successful. You'll have to understand that whatever type of rejection happened is besides the point To be successful rejection should be embraced. Positive outcomes come after …
/r/seduction23/06/22 10:50 PM
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You wanna test it!? Go ahead and have OP do no more than 40 approaches!! Thats your take on it He'll come back crying how he doesnt have a date. Then youre gonna cry how its because he doesn't have sick game and all these other factors. It'll just go back and forth. Blaming this and that going into depth and detail And congratulations... Youre now at what $1000s of pua workshops and game coaches having been doing this whole time -40 approaches i dare anyone to to try. Knock yourselves out being …
/r/seduction23/06/22 10:01 PM
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"2 dates out of 5 women" Now thats comical. Clearly just bull********. Given that its true. No guy; no amateur; no beginner will ever achieve that. Lets say they do(out of sheer luck). Take 100 other similar guys and I guarantee you not even half of them will get "2 dates out of 5 women at the mall" lmao this shit helps no one Take 100 guys and have them approach 200 girls at the mall. They are all guaranteed at least 2 dates... Wow mindblowing. I must be from the future. Or I actually have the …
/r/seduction23/06/22 09:48 PM
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For a guy starting it is that much. I know you dont want to hear that but it is reality. You can thank me for being transparent with you guys Lets see, the rules are: With 100 approaches a beginner will get barely over 10 numbers. With 50% replying. That'll leave you with 5 numbers that you can text to meet up If no girl agrees to meet. Youre over 100 approaches with no date. Keep in mind that girls flake A LOT in the game! So this exact scenario will happen every now and then. Its not uncommon …
/r/seduction23/06/22 09:37 PM
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You wrote a lot. Not that hard to throw numbers dude. I'm a 7/10. Out of my 11 dates i can lay all this information in less than a paragraph. And even go into style, quality of girls, etc... And give a pretty accurate baseline on what you should expect regardless I already provided my recent date this week. And that I can get solid numbers. Not because im so amazing. But because having kept statistics on 11 dates just tells you literally when your next date is going to happen. So it makes succes…
/r/seduction23/06/22 04:52 PM
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Guys starting should worry about simple approaches not this headache of pua information
/r/seduction23/06/22 04:22 PM
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Depends how much you want to succeed. If any guy wants 5 dates in a month hes gonna have to talk to ~600 girls. Well cold approaching that is
/r/seduction23/06/22 02:59 PM
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You don't. This has been answered many times here. Goodluck
/r/seduction23/06/22 02:11 PM
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Mike mehlman is the shit!
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:59 PM
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I think you should be open to it and give yourself the chance to date them and see how it goes. If you tried for a good while and cant do it then ok. Its not for you. But you might miss out on a great person because youre limiting yourself
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:45 PM
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Doing both. Makes you confident. Independent. Emotionally healthier. And you'll never have to wonder "what ifs." Or ever find the need to cheat
/r/seduction22/06/22 09:41 PM
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I think you should try it. Ive cold approached over 2000 girls and one of the few things i dont regret Everything you're feeling is normal. Its hard and its beyond difficult. It does get better. But not overnight I would say is make up a script. And just copy and paste it to any girl seemingly by themselves not in a hurry. Just really ease yourself into it. And pick easy targets. When and if you're good and ready. So just browse around and don't ever feel as if you have to do it
/r/seduction22/06/22 08:53 PM
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Well it looks like youre really just asking if you should try to have sex with her. Yeah go ahead. You clearly feel that way. Book the hotel and take your shot. In life you mostly regret that chances that you dont take. You gotta do what makes you happy and not about what others may think of it Peoples opinions mean absolutely nothing after time
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:45 PM
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Ask her out, number, socials in that order. The most important thing to realize is when a girl likes you the type of exchange matters least No such thing as rookie mistake exists unless you're a serial dater and keeping track of everything. And obsessed with the minor differentials of type of contact exchanges to increase your percentages. Don't be that guy The worlds not gonna end if you don't see her that day. If you have a life she'll understand that. Don't be thirsty like @smitty
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:27 PM
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No. Girls like to talk but if its only to answer a specific questions thatre actually relevant to them. Or they enjoy thoroughly listening and then asking your questions after. Putting a girl on the spot into the unknown is the worst thing you can do That question also is in an indirect way of trying to get her to validate herself over to you. Which they hate. Theres no substance in it either which they also hate. Pretty much that question is lazy, bland, and hands over the lead to the girl to t…
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:56 PM
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I wouldn't say that's double texting. You're good to send another text, "you still free in grabbing a drink tomorrow?" Double texting would be asking that and getting no response... Then sending another text Also it's kinda the norm for a girl to deflect you once or twice. So if that happens dont write her off just yet.
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:49 PM
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Sometimes there are girls that are going to waste your time regardless whichever you choose. She doesn't know what she wants so it's best to not waste more time. Or persist and you may have a chance at getting her in expense at still wasting a lot of your time
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:04 AM
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So she sent you a snap with her ex fucking her from behind? Dunno what im reading
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:58 AM
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I think what youre asking is if its more meaningful? No. Especially even comparing it to having done a cold approach and seeing her in person she actually genuinely likes you! Then even starts seeking rapport and qualifying herself over to you. As well as in text! Only for her to never meet you after she agreed to! All of which I have experienced many times. So i can tell you that most of the time you're never guaranteed anything with a girl Not matter how she acts/or says: Its not a guaranteed …
/r/seduction22/06/22 01:51 AM
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It all goes back to what you want. What's your game plan, how are you going to achieve it, and are you going to act consistent with it E.g if you want sex. Does you're profile screen sex? Do your pictures? Do your messages and conversations filter for such girls? Are your dates set up to that of a hook up plan? You don't have to go too all out with it, but conveying a little goes along way. You'll then see that your chances will go up. And girls meeting up wont be a waste of your time anymore. B…
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:41 PM
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As long as you dont say anything off putting that warrants an apology. You can say whatever. Its all a numbers game in who's going to be receptive. It's never a repudiation of you. So dont take it personal
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:19 PM
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It can depend where youre meeting these girls off from. But usually the problem is never with you. Majority of girls arent going to come back to "your place." The majority of girls wont see you again after a meet up. The majority of girls arent even going to be repeat customers after a hook up I guess the only problem you have is that you dont understand that. But thats how it works. So you shouldnt be taking any blame. Theres really not much you can do about it. Its out of ypur control. So hope…
/r/seduction21/06/22 07:08 PM
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Then you should know it's all a Numbers game. You don't transition into anything. You just take your shot and play the numbers. Guys that take girls regularly from bars are doing it in less than 10 minutes "Ok cool. Right on" "Hey its a little loud here/lets go outside get some fresh air/come talk to me over a smoke outside." Pull You convincing yourself youre doing so well socially is just insecurity. That matters least if you're playing the numbers. The guy who is unsmooth but taking shots con…
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:18 PM
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Be yourself. Be engageful. Be excited. Be positive. She's auditioning for a second date with you. Youre fully providing your whole attitude as your only job
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:13 PM
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Youre out of your comfort zone. You have to get used to being comfortable in the uncomfortable. To where you become an alpha in his natural habitat
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:07 PM
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Guys are there most attractive in their 30s. I hardly ever got eye contact before. Now being 30, girls give me contact every now and then. Your body just matures and you start looking more like a man
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:05 PM
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Ya its what i thought. You dont have anything. Text game i feel sorry for you
/r/seduction04/05/22 12:47 PM
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Text game ahahahahahahahahaha that's for fucking simps who barely know how to get numbers Only guys that can't get laid teach that. ***Notice that the girls are texting me more. Not the other way around I have too much value and dignity for that. By all means show me your dates and text proofs? Should be easy for you with your sick text game Youve been brainwashed if you believe text game actually exist
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:27 AM
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These are just collecting numbers into dates. Which can be harder than getting laid Theres a reason guys go for instadates instead of a day2 dates. Cuz theyre more likely to get laid that way Legit players arent collecting numbers. And the best of the best arent wasting time conversating either. Theyre looking for dtf girls. I can go to vegas and literally screen/filter 100 girls in less than an hour and get laid. By being very aggressive and physical Why!? Because its a numbers game, and the vo…
/r/seduction02/05/22 11:40 PM
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Same as everywhere else. Rejection left and right
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:31 PM
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I didnt care. It was for the experiment. Most of these gyms were all a chain of the same gym. Where my membership was valid for all of them I always thought there was always a risk getting told something from workers anywhere i went. So it can happen. And if it does... its gonna happen regardless. So it makes no difference if youre scared
/r/seduction02/05/22 12:29 PM
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You just know these type of smv things through personal experience. Which is basically a reflection on how people have always viewed you And theres really no such thing as game. I remember having sick game after many products and hours invested in the seduction community. And when i finally unlearned everything i started getting dates My kid brother got his first date at his 78 approach. And i didnt tell him anything other than im doing an experiment but its a numbers game He accomplished more i…
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:22 PM
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Theres a guy whos approached 10000s in japan. And strictly moved for his dating preference. Japan is supposed be a very conservative culture. And the guy has mentioned this in his hometown australia the approaches and success were about the same So its not worth mentioning. It's just whining where you live and not making the most of it
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:12 PM
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Face, body, style. Highschool smv if you wanna look at it that way(dated 6s 7s 8s) You can be slightly below average in the face department. But with leaner athletic built body and a very fresh style. Youd be a 8/10. An actual 9 of a guy wouldnt be approaching girls. He most likely has a job as a model or is an instagram sensation. Not hard to compete with the other remaining guys Most common guys dont care about their appearance. And if they do, they heavily lack the other departments. Majority…
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:29 PM
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😈
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:19 PM
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Deep. Completely agree. But our opinions are subjective to an extent. People will live how they want to live. Theres no right or wrong. Someone elses life is none of my business. Doesn't affect me. What makes them happy ill probably think its foolish and vise versa
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:24 PM
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Im not special bro. I did it for you guys. So you can all decide for yourselves if its worth your time
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:40 PM
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Its not for everyone. Glad i can help
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:02 PM
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In the end its all similar stuff. Some might do a bit better or bit worse. Reality is, its just luck. Its hardly ever the case the guy is better. It just looks like that, but thats not whats actually happening Ive had days where i get 30 straight rejection before a number close and any rookie could "do better." What's failed to realize is that the next 7 approaches are all straight numbers. Then its back to the vicious rejection. The next of those numbers are a date
/r/seduction01/05/22 04:00 PM
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They're honest questions but its not beneficial for a rookie to figure out Its irrelevant. When you're out cold approaching nothing makes sense. Ive had huge mistakes when starting and some transition to straight hook ups and girlfriends. "I like your leggings, do you work out your booty a lot?" Girl: "Well its real if you must touch. But im grabbing a coffee right now, lets chill? Sex "Hello, yuh yuh youre cute. Wa-wa-waa- wanted to say hi. Girl: thanks Sorry im leaving(stuttering embarrassed i…
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:48 PM
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Its in the context. Emphasized many times Keep your conversations very short and move on. Its a numbers game. Rejection is a prerequisite for numbers. A ton of flakey numbers is a prerequisite for 1 date. Nothing you say or do will change that. Say whatever you want as long as its not trolling the girl Heres an example you can copy&paste: 1)"Hey how r u, i thought you were cute and wanted to say hi. What's your name? 2a)"You look good, do you go to the gym? How many times a week. Weight lifting …
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:22 PM
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Its in the context. Emphasized many times Keep your conversations very short and move on. Its a numbers game. Rejection is a prerequisite for numbers. A ton of flakey numbers is a prerequisite for 1 date. Nothing you say or do will change that. Say whatever you want as long as its not trolling the girl Heres an example you can copy&paste: 1)"Hey how r u, i thought you were cute and wanted to say hi. What's your name? 2a)"You look good, do you go to the gym? How many times a week. Weight lifting …
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:06 PM
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Cold approach is always going to be low return investment. I've had dates before this experiment. And id be lying to you like the seduction community if you need way less than 100 approaches with sick game "quality approaches" to get a date. Its all lies. An amateur and beginner have no business trying to learn game if they can't manage getting a date in their amateur form. Which is 50-150 approaches per date That's just to save you the time what the real sales funnel looks like cold approaching
/r/seduction01/05/22 02:50 PM
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3 out of 5 dates; kissed, make out, groped them, played with boobs, pat their kitty before they said theyre okay with everything else but that A girls interest is decided well before you even speak to her. Its not about quality. Its about quantity. If anything, conversating longer gets more flakes. Been there, done that Keep it short and move on. Its a numbers game. Beginners need 15 numbers give or take before they get a date. Nothing you say or do will change that. If you accept that, youll ge…
/r/seduction01/05/22 02:18 PM
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Yes. I also made out with over 50% of them on the 1st date, and 2nd base
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:59 PM
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Your points valid. But i guess its confidence i can pick up girls in a white t shirt, blue jeans, and sneakers any day of the week with minimal effort. Anyone can, i aint special
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:54 PM
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Guys are thick and refuse to listen. Keep your conversations short. Longer doesnt create interest. Its a myth. Been there, done that Girls interest level is well before you speak
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:45 PM
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Theres no such thing as text game. If youre not able to get a girl in text to meet up with you in less than 4 messages. Shes was never going to be interested! And youre just wasting your time doing anything else. Girls flake 110% of the time. When i was an amateur i needed about 15 numbers to get a date. No amount of text game reduced that Have a look at this. Quick 40 second read of your time. Itll help you understand better https://mikemehlman.net/2020/04/12/how-to-be-non-needy-through-text/
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:41 PM
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Yes i need a complete refund. When i was an amateur i finally got sick of it. Then i did the opposite of what i learned and i started seeing results Amateurs/intermediates have no business learning game. Theres no such thing. Say hi, introduce yourself, play the numbers. Thats gonna get you dates. Not game or seduction tricks In one year of unlearning everything i had 3x more success
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:31 PM
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Nope. I need a complete refund! I only started getting numbers and dates after i did the opposite of what i learned. Back when i was an amateur i started interacting for 30 seconds and asked girls out for a drink. To my surprise almost every 10 girls gave me a real number. Than i read from legit players that it was a numbers game and i was doing excellent. Its takes many numbers for a date, not a few. 15 numbers to date for a beginner A guys success is based on how much rejecting he can take. No…
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:26 PM
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When i was in my early 20s. I got 3 dates per each year. It was a light hobby id mess with from time to time
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:17 PM
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Most numbers anywhere are pointless. Getting numbers is the easy part. In cold approach the majority of numbers will flake. Theres nothing you can do about it. Its got to be accepted. 110% girls flake
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:13 PM
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Spoken like a champ
/r/seduction01/05/22 02:19 AM
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I did it only when I could make the time for it. Its why it took me a year to do. So I was in no rush when interacting with girls. They weren't going anywhere. I intentionally made nearly all interactions identical and always was closing them. 99% for the purpose of the experiment When I stated it doesnt matter how long you interact with her and whether she seems very interested is because in the past girls have flaked to my shock. I learned early on that nothings a guarantee until she physicall…
/r/seduction01/05/22 02:08 AM
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Completely agree. I was creepy, I had to be. Its up to the person if they give a hoot about what others think. Naturally they'll acclimate to where they see it as normal with enough experience. Those guys just do whatever they want
/r/seduction01/05/22 01:52 AM
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It gives me a piece of mind on how many approaches and how many numbers a beginner needs till a proper date happens with a hot chick. It definitely has it pro's and its con's. If anything I'm more confident and my independence from dating girls has drastically increased In my subjective opinion. Not too worth it but it is an eventual guarantee if you do the time. Other guys might love the grind and I can see why they get addicted to it
/r/seduction01/05/22 01:49 AM
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I bet! Glad you enjoyed it
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:23 AM
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Ahahahahahahahah Yes I'm clearly a 3/10 pulling the girls I posted up. Solid my guy I do get told that I'm way younger for my age. That I'm 19 😆. Oh, youre funny And I'm "average height" for a hispanic(5'10). What the actual fuck kid????? lmaooooo The ignorance out of you is sooo unreal lol And with no cash? Haha I approached only when I could. Ive commented it many times and that it took me a year. I have a career and went to school So try again bud
/r/seduction01/05/22 12:19 AM
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I remember doing the AA. Asking for the time. Quick compliment drills etc... It was extremely tough. I gave up several times. It didn't help that I was fed PUA material either. It all came down to being a numbers game. And rejection is inevitable. How successful you want to be comes down to how much rejection youre willing to muster in a day I recommend mike mehlmans website. I found him weeks ago. His posts will help you and its not bs. If you liked this experiment, you'll love his work Goodluc…
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:55 PM
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6.5 approaches to girl giving out numbers doesn't seem creepy to me: beginner level The proof is there
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:39 PM
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Its mentioned that ive talked for 10 minutes. Its also mentioned that ive already previously gotten many dates out of it and hooked up with some I'm past the beginner phase. I could've easily lied and said I got laid every 40 approaches. I have a lot of proof for it. But thats not reality, nor am I like that. This is to help beginners. Its not of my benefit Guys with such results is just male embellishment. It never comes from a place of humility. They lie all the time. I know how to get dates &…
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:32 PM
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Yep. 50-150 approaches per date. Keeping fluctuation in mind. 100 approaches is the average sum If you get a date in 30 approaches, cool! The next date is within 170 rejections. ~200 approaches =2 dates I can go to the gym and within x amount of rejection finally get a date. After collecting x amount of numbers. Done and tested it. So can you
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:20 PM
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Social settings, night game, and online are the way to go. If you decide to cold approach its a tonne of rejection left and right. But it is an option for the grinders
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:06 PM
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No ones mad friend. And I'm glad it can be of use to you in one way or another. For beginners, its 250 or so approaches to get laid. Can easily be done within a month for anyone starting, wanting to try
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:01 PM
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This is an experiment for others to see. Nothing more. Its not of my interest. Its for the beginner community. I did this sporadically within a years time. Its not of my benefit. No sir. I know how to get dates with cold approach and without it More weird and pathetic that from a cold approach experiment theres proof and results than anything you have I've hyperlinked screenshots of my phone. Wheres your proof? Or just run away w/o backing your claims
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:39 PM
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I ask myself that everyday 😔
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:23 PM
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Yes. These arent socially settings. Its out of the norm to be doing what im doing. Parties, bars, clubs, WAAAAY much higher chances. I'll put it up there. Thx
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:19 PM
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Just read it. Youre statistics are very accurate. If you keep going at 500 you'll see the same results as me. They're already very similar. 50 approaches isnt likely for a date. +-100 is PUA guys just wanna lie to you. Theyve never really cold approach. They just advise you to fix your game, which doesn't really exist
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:15 PM
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It's just luck dude. I had 2 dates within a first 100 approaches. Then it took me almost 200 approaches of straight rejection before another date. I almost gave up. It all balances out in the macro Once got 9 numbers per 100. Then later 20 numbers per next 100. It fluctuates. Its not a repudiation of you. Just luck 9/100 + 20/100 =29/200 Numbers game: 15=100, 30=200 Yup. It checks out. It all balances out. Either you have a horrible run and finish strong. Or have a great run and barely cross the…
/r/seduction30/04/22 10:07 PM
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Yes sir. Completely agree! Online > cold approach
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:43 PM
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It doesn't matter. Indirect/situational/direct equally got me the same numbers You become a salesman as soon as she finally knows youve approached her out of interest. You cant pander to surroundings forever, you will have to get to the point Its already blatantly obvious why a guy goes up to a girl; to hit on her
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:39 PM
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If you read the post it is mentioned that I also interacted for 10 minutes Instead it can even be re-worded, "10 minutes interactions are probably why my flake rate is so high." Which is true Dunno why you interpret only what you wanna believe. Its clearly mentioned up there. You just happened to pick the other end out of ur convenience
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:38 PM
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40 seconds got me most of my dates. Especially when I was an amateur. Debunked it. I can easily do +30 minutes of conversation. Gets you nowhere everytime Sorry to disappoint but i ain't no noob dude. I'm more than capable of being very social with lengthy conversation. I don't do it for a reason. If I do, its because I'm entertaining myself. That just lies i used to believe
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:28 PM
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Yes. They're in denial. And wont accept to swallow the pill. It took me about a year. I did it sporadically. My record of approach was 73 in a whole morning and day. Was exhausted in the evening
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:23 PM
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Cold approach is such a waste of time 😂 it is up to people to decide that upon for themselves tho. Thats the purpose of this. To cold approach or not to cold approach. But these are definitely your odds starting. And hopefully this puts an end to all the daygame lies they were fed
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:12 PM
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