Shirakawasuna Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Oh wait, so now the burden of proof is on me? Of course it is. You claimed that the court deemed it a false accusation. You can therefore be expected to provide evidence for it - it makes little sense to ask for me to disprove it, I'd need to show all information regarding the case and say, "it's not there!" Whereas, if your claim is based on reading (which you've implied), you can just source it. This is why you pointed to the Daily Mail: you know it's your job to back up your claim about what …	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 09:30 PM
1	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Alright, I'm done with your shit novels, I actually have a life, but it literally says false rape allegations on the first sentence, not that it matters for you because "shit source", or something, also- Literally every other source calls it a false rape allegation at some point in their articles, but that goes against what you're saying so "literally all shit sources"... do you have the court documents to back your claims also? No you fucking don't. First article that pops up if you restrict yo…	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 06:50 PM
0	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Do I need to hold your hand to show you all other sources stating the exact same thing? That's so typical, that's just the first one I found also, it's not even the same one in OP's image. Knock yourself out. Of course, your claim is that the court deemed it a false accusation, and the Daily Mail didn't even make that particular claim. Funny how you skipped over that part. Your degree of projection is palpable. Accusing others of the very toxic way you behave because you know you don't have a le…	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 12:50 PM
0	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Are you framing all of your stance based off of this single image? Here's the story:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3714547/Heartbroken-mother-55-teenager-hanged-false-rape-allegations-kills-anniversary-death-couldn-t-future-without-him.html "FALSE RAPE ALLEGATION" not "maybe a rape allegation" not "well, kinda sorta a rape allegation" where does any of it leave room for you the apply the "innocent until proven guilty" bullshit? That's what the Daily Mail editorializes, but the court fo…	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 11:09 AM
1	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Oh, my. You have some serious issues with hate and women and should honestly talk to someone about it, ideally a mental health professional. Where are you missing the point, the mere allegation is enough for some, women love to hold any power over a man if it means control or destruction. This is not relevant to anything I have said. At all. The fact that you offer up this misogyny without prompting is a serious issue that you need to talk to someone about. You are in no way describing a point t…	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 08:53 AM
-1	Think of your parents - go MGTOW Except I'm fully aware of the court of public opinion, though it certainly doesn't always swing against the accused. Try again, this time with a non-generic insult, if you could. Something requiring creativity.	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 01:24 AM
-2	Think of your parents - go MGTOW The fact that people died has nothing to do with innocent until proven guilty. And now, for noting your fairly obvious inconsistency, I'm sexist. lol	/r/MGTOW	11/10/18 12:56 AM
-5	Think of your parents - go MGTOW "Innocent until proven guilty for me, not for thee". Not a complex point to get but man y'all are doing your best.	/r/MGTOW	10/10/18 09:35 PM
-12	Think of your parents - go MGTOW A withdrawn claim is not an admission of lying about it. How are you all so incapable? This is literally the exact same logic, in the same situation, and you can't see it: innocent until proven guilty.	/r/MGTOW	10/10/18 07:53 PM
20	Dear Women: You are not Oppressed This sub seems to subscribe to the belief that fighting for equal rights means you need to belittle women's rights. This is why you aren't taken seriously. Most of the comments that aren't critical of the post are just veiled attacks on women or arguing that women are privileged. No advocacy against a specific equality injustice, no organizing marches or political campaigns of your own. Just negativity directed at women, naive arguments that access to healthcare isn't an issue for them, etc. You…	/r/MensRights	26/01/17 07:40 PM
1	Damn Right This will be my last reply, as this is now absurdly boring and tedious. "plug your ears, stomp your feet, and scream" Nope "'no one addressed a thing I said'" You didn't address my point, even after these new paragraphs. I don't know what to tell you, I've repeated if nearly every reply I've made. "Disagreeing with your opinion does not equate to a lack of understanding or avoiding your point" Correct "Why is this where you end up? It isn't "You say no one bothered to ask the back story" Nope, t…	/r/MensRights	02/01/17 07:32 PM
2	Damn Right Agreed. This place seems pretty toxically focused on casting doubt on the existence and severity of women experiencing sexism, as opposed to simply recognizing the sexism men have to deal with as well. I am totally on board with you when it comes to career choices. I was headed down one engineering path and came to the realization that no one in that field had their time or effort valued, so I ended up switching to a different engineering field. It sucked, since I had so much expertise in the fi…	/r/MensRights	02/01/17 10:45 AM
1	Damn Right I've stated exactly what's wrong with yours and others comparing your experience to OP's. I refuse to believe you still don't understand what I said. I correctly pointed out that you were arguing against things I hadn't said, and were instead overgeneralizing from my specific claims. Okay, you think it's fine in this context. Now what about my points about why it's not fine? Specifically, that you're all not just, "sharing experiences", you're attempting to cast doubt on it being sexism at all, …	/r/MensRights	02/01/17 10:22 AM
1	Damn Right 1) I didn't ask any questions in this subthread and there have been many deviations, so you'll have to remind me which one you think you answered. 2) Your replies have absolutely avoided my points repeatedly, because you seem to be unable to avoid becoming over-general and therefore missing my point. I assume it's accidental, but it's amazing how many times you've done it since I've called you on it several times. 3) Your responses have not supported why it's fine, in this context, for the overw…	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 11:09 PM
1	Damn Right Yep, I agree and it still doesn't address my point. You're talking in generalizations yet again, I'm talking about the responses in context.	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 08:31 PM
1	Damn Right I'm explaining exactly how it's a straw man via generalization...	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 08:10 PM
1	Damn Right I have yet to see you say why it's cool to undermine someone's claim of experiencing sexism because in your experience as a man, engineering is tough on everyone. That's the point I've made repeatedly and I've only seen you reach for false generalizations.	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 08:07 PM
1	Damn Right These straw men are so obvious. Please step back and evaluate your mode of argument, because it's turned into arguing against false generalizations of my specific claims. This time, I started with a claim that it's subtly sexist for scads of men to immediately cast doubt on a woman's claim of experiencing sexism based on nothing having to do with her personal experience, because no one, including you, had the tact to ask first. Somehow, you've twisted that into, "it's sexist to question sexism".	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 07:53 PM
1	Damn Right I haven't said there's anything intrinsically wrong with men sharing experiences, I've pointed out the problems with it in this context. It's a straw man.	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 07:46 PM
1	Damn Right Great, more stories about you. This does nothing to address the fact that the overwhelming response to a woman claiming sexism, largely without details, was for men to cast doubt on her claim based on their experience as men in the workplace. That is itself a subtle form of sexism and none of you are picking up on it. I've pointed this out 4-5 times now and you have yet to address it. Edit: and, again, the appropriate response to someone taking about sexism they experienced is to ask questions f…	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 07:01 PM
1	Damn Right More straw men... I haven't said anything even remotely close to what you're disagreeing with. It's also ironic, yet again, because, as it turns out, I'm a white man...	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 06:55 PM
1	Damn Right I didn't bash other anecdotes, that's what you all are doing - trying to undermine her experience by offering your (male) experience. No one is saying engineering is easy or fair to new people. No one. Almost every one of your replies is some form of irony, this is amazing. As a fellow engineer, please take a moment to step back and reconsider your approach. And start by trying to actually listen to your female colleagues, starting with this one.	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 06:01 AM
1	Damn Right Buddy, she told you she experienced sexism and you just literally told me that it wasn't. You're directly trying to invalidate her experience, casting doubt on it like most of the other commenters. Like I said, why don't you try asking for details before the doubt?	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 04:38 AM
7	Damn Right And every reply to your point is a man saying it couldn't possibly be true, usually using their own anecdotes. Many engineering fields are, as a whole, hostile to women, and the assholes replying to you might be the place to start. How about listening and asking for examples before becoming an armchair skeptic? Or become informed about the fact that women leave engineering majors and careers much faster than men. They seem to be completely unaware that this attitude of immediately invalidating a…	/r/MensRights	01/01/17 03:33 AM