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Hi there, I just want to explain the delay in my communication. When I Iast went to reply to you a couple of weeks ago, I was rather horrified that when I clicked on your comment to me, right underneath there was a comment from a certain troll who had been monitoring my activity. As a result of that, I took time out from the site. Today I just logged on to reply to you and lo and behold, he's still doing he same. I'm not giving him the reaction he wants, so I'll reply at some point soon. Thank y…
/r/MensRights17/04/21 08:39 PM
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For the sake of clarification should this be reviewed by an auditor if I end up having to report you for continued harassment, the additional message you are referring to on chat was part of the one conversation on the same date, the 25th, with one message sent slightly later (say 15 minutes?) as I had a phone call from a friend come through before I sent it. However, it is again part of the same conversation and further to having introduced myself, I sent only one more line explaining that I th…
/r/MensRights01/04/21 10:53 AM
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I did not contact you via chat or private message beyond that one friendly instance on the 25th of March as an attempted olive branch. I find it quite telling that you've shared your private messages and chats in screenshots on imjur but abstain from sharing this particular one with me. That would be because I would be shown to be the honest one; it was just a friendly message on one occasion where I stated my name and asked how you were doing. You've continued to incessantly contact me well aft…
/r/MensRights01/04/21 10:27 AM
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I'm not... I only sent those friendly messages, as stated, last week out of concern for you. I haven't contacted you again as per your request, and frankly, out of my lack of desire to. Please stop monitoring my activity. I won't be communicating with you any further and if you continue to monitor my activity, I will have to report this.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 10:35 PM
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OK, what the f? Why are you monitoring my activity? u/broadside_beers - apologies for the delay. We had a few days of extremely pleasant weather, so I've been thoroughly enjoying myself. I'll respond soon of course! Thank you for the considerate responses.
/r/MensRights31/03/21 09:14 PM
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Feel free to screenshot and confirm this on your imgur as you continously do, but in the private message I sent you the following: "Hello. I'm ____. What's your name? How is your night going? I don't know if you are able to read this, but I just wanted to send a friendly message. There's a human being at either side of the reddit profiles, so it would be nice to break down that barrier". Given you've engaged in a long discussion with me, it didn't seem inappropriate to send that friendly message…
/r/MensRights26/03/21 02:46 PM
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Are you really trying to blame me for you harassing me. You continue to speak to me on a public forum... Our conversation wasn't my favourite, but I don't have any ill wishes against you. Have a nice day.
/r/MensRights26/03/21 02:07 PM
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Hiya. How are we? Thank you for the warm message. Apologies for the slow response, as I wanted to give it proper consideration. Oh, you are so lucky to be in Australia in general, nevermind during these peculiar times. I've only been to Perth once as a child, but I found it to be otherworldly and an adventure for my senses. When I first moved to London after studying in France, for some gorgeous reason I ended up in an entirely aussie group of friends. It's safe to say that this particular year …
/r/MensRights26/03/21 02:51 AM
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No, not at all. I raised a healthy debate with you, which is what this forum is for, and although I haven't always been fluffy and nice, I've remained polite and civil, despite hostility towards me and multiple posts being made about me on 3 different groups. I didn't have a go at you in the private messages. I just introduced myself "outside of reddit" and asked a little about you, and how you're doing. However, I totally respect that you don't want any further private messages. Feel free to bl…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:40 PM
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No, I'm really not. I'm speaking directly with you here. Please drop me a message. Hope you're ok. There should be a chat request from me and some messages. They're friendly. I promise!
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:25 PM
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Come on, that's not true. Just to clarify, I didn't say that as a baby it should be done, or state that I feel that this should happen to babies. As circumcision is usually done in infancy, I used that as an example, and then contrasted it with female genital mutilation at the stage in life it most commonly is practised. I asked which you would rather experience in order to make a point, and like all other questions I've asked, you dodged it. I'm interested in turning this into a positive discus…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 11:04 PM
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I agreed that male circumcision should be done when boys or men are older if they want to, for hygiene reasons. However, I did share that there is a major difference between foreskin circumcision under local anaesthesia by a medical practitioner for the benefit of the male patient, and then female genital mutilation done without anaesthesia in unsanitary conditions, where the entire clitoris is removed, the inner and outer labia are removed and the vagina is partly sewn shut for male pleasure an…
/r/MensRights25/03/21 10:49 PM
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I'm not neutral about that issue, actually. Have you run out of other people to give bother to?
/r/MensRights25/03/21 10:23 PM
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Mmm, sure.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 10:05 PM
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It was an ironic joke. I was not being serious. Have a nice day, nacho.
/r/MensRights25/03/21 09:13 PM
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I'm really not bragging in a serious way, I'm doing so humorously and shutting you down with the contrast between your pitiful insults which attempt to portray me as some sort of lonely incel/hag living alone with supposedly no sex life or social life, and the reality that I'm an attractive woman having the time of my life living the dolce vita in an incredible city. Well, maybe not this week in isolation, but usually! Attractive women aren't incels and there's never a shortage of interest. Attr…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 10:41 PM
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You live alone because you are an incel. I live alone in a beautiful house in an affluent area of London and I've had plenty of sexual partners.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 08:54 PM
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I don't identify as an incel, chuckle! I'm a conventionally attractive woman. The only thing that is causing me to be very temporarily involuntarily celebrate is living alone (in my beautiful home in London, it's a tough life) during strict lockdown restrictions, but prior to that I had quite the fruitful life ;)
/r/MensRights24/03/21 07:20 PM
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It's not a derogatory slur. you don't like that I have proven you wrong multiple times Thank you for making me laugh :) You know what - you deserve a gold star for dedication.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:38 PM
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I stated that I found the thread through their profile/broadside_beers, and only because you brought the comments to my attention. In the thread, you mention having combed through my comments. Incels come in the form of both genders. It's an identity - thankfully not one I personally identify with - not a slur. If you don't mind my saying, I actually feel genuine concern after having seen that thread. I didn't realise that this conversation had caused you so much anguish or affected or angered y…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:23 PM
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Did he really state that I must talk to him? That's interesting. I didn't receive any correspondence from him. This did pique my curiosity, given you state you have conferred with him, so I checked his comment history and I was tickled by this thread. You were told by the r/mensrights moderator and this particular user that "it looks like you just met someone who was better at debate than you", and "if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you, you are looking for an echo chamber", in respon…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 04:06 PM
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No, she didn't. She did not provide a single instance where men lack a right that women have, which is what you asked her. In fact, she raised issues which disproportionately affect women and girls. You asked on that forum for examples of human rights than women have that men don't, and she listed the following: -Body autonomy. She was wrong to imply that women have body autonomy. Over 40% of women in the world live in counties where abortion is forbidden or near impossible to access with highly…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 01:50 PM
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There are two things I forgot to highlight previously in my first comment which shows below. I didn't mention fully is that while FGM is illegal, as you discussed, it is still widely practised. As I've previously shared, it is still practised in 92 countries and 200,000,000 women are currently living with FGM. FGM is practised without anaesthesia under unsanitary conditions. Almost all FGM involves the clitoris and labia being removed, and 10% of FGM survivors also experiencing additional infibu…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 03:20 AM
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You mean in your dreams. No. If you so adore Zac Effron, why are you lurking on men's rights forums pressed about the prospect of paying a woman for child support? Oh, thanks for linking me. She didn't provide a single instance of men lacking a right that women have. In fact, the issues she discussed affect women and girls on a much greater level.
/r/MensRights24/03/21 02:28 AM
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Thank you for the brilliant comment again. Those are some incredibly refreshing points and I always appreciate when people can challenge my views and really make me pause and reflect. I will be including some of the issues you have discussed and introduced me to in my own activism. I automatically have a bit of apprehension with your statement that you have no idea what gender equality looks like. Ah, I get that, but I stand by my clumsily phrased statement. I meant I couldn't envision gender eq…
/r/MensRights24/03/21 01:20 AM
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No, you're absolutely not on my mind in the romantic sense. In your dreams...
/r/MensRights23/03/21 10:25 PM
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So if I'm wrong, and you are supposedly armed with bountiful knowledge about instances of men not having human rights based on gender inequality, why are you desperately seeking answers to this very question on a women's forum? Chuckle...
/r/MensRights23/03/21 10:09 PM
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I already have my answer to my question I've asked you, what feels like 100 times, about if you can list one single instance where men lack a human right, and the answer is that you don't have a scooby, because you're now desperately seeking answers to that very question on a women's forum. Indeed, you were incapable of answering me. You're simply wrong, I'm afraid.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 09:54 PM
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I will post something after you post something. I don't think you understand: I politely explained that you're more than welcome to indulge in your own logic and do the very thing you're suggesting, but that I'm simply not entertaining it. I've already explained, now for the third time, that I have no interest in doing that. It's not going to happen. So can we deduce that you are here to troll and not actually discuss anything. Might I refresh your memory that you posted a comment on a public fo…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 09:39 PM
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If you're so confident in that logic, you're more than welcome to test it out and post something anti-feminist in r/feminism, but perhaps manage your own expectations with the fact that you can't tell an internet stranger you have zero influence over what to do. At least with any success, anyway. Regardless, I've already explained my reasons, and you aren't the only person I have asked this question. They have also failed to give me an answer, for the record. So can we deduce that you have no an…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 07:34 PM
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What do you suspect would happen should a woman point out that an eponymous forum is ironic in a shark tank of 300 thousand open misogynists (amongst occasional sincere men)? Get lots of positive karma? Of course not. You continue to resort to deflection. I pointed out that I'm here to find out what rights men supposedly lack. You cannot answer that, or explain why a day later you are still here, if you have nothing conducive to add. Did you suggest I should do a post on the forum because you ar…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 06:35 PM
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Wouldn't that be karmic suicide? I would like to continue using my account. Regardless, why should any man on a men's rights forum struggle to explain to me what rights men lack? It's not an unreasonable expectation to get a successful answer to that question, given the setting.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 06:06 PM
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No. You haven't shown me a single valid example of men lacking in a fundamental human right, or one instance of socioeconomic gender inequality that disproportionately affects men. You showed me a report about sexual assaults done unto men which result in children, a heartbreaking issue, but an issue that still disproportionately affects women. Again, according to a National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, 1 in 71 men is a victim of sexual assault and 95% of those 1 in 71 men report…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:51 PM
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You are harassing me and I have told you to stop. You're on a public forum and you keep replying to me and prompting the conversation. If you want the conversation to stop, all you have to do is stop replying. Someone politely responding to you having spoken to them is simply that - a response - and not harassment. do your own research. There are no academic texts which demonstrate that men lack any fundamental human rights and for a man on a men's rights forum who keeps boasting about the impor…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:36 PM
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You keep threatening that, but I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm discussing issues pertaining to equality on a forum concerning equality. I'm also making a massive effort to try to understand what socioeconomic inequalities and violations against their human rights that men supposedly face. My asking a question that you're incapable of answering is not trolling. None of my comments were removed. I'm speaking with considerable respect to a person who has been unbelievably rude to me, and I'm mere…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:21 PM
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What specific rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights23/03/21 05:06 PM
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I'm not ignoring you at all. I really want to understand what's going on. Have you ever considered that meeting someone with a bias towards them could exacerbate how negatively the interaction goes in terms of reciprocation? For example, have you personally experienced any prejudice on the grounds of something like ethnicity or religion? Have you ever met people who are just straight-up rude or cold with you based on their prejudice? If so, did it make you less likely to be friendly towards them…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 04:08 PM
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No way, a person on the internet is hiding behind a keyboard? I didn't merely point out that you're hiding behind a keyboard. The question explored why I should be "scared" of you if you are hiding anonymously behind a keyboard? "That last sentence really creeped me out". I thought I wasn't scary? They are two entirely distinct emotions. The subreddit also failed entirely to show me actual rights that men lack, as opposed to challenges and difficulties in life based on their gender. Welp, I gues…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 03:42 PM
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At what specific points in this conversation have I exhibited anger? I have not exhibited anger issues at any point in this conversation, and I know that such a claim is always a tried and tested go-to when men have nothing conducive to contribute to a conversation and want to attempt to discredit the woman. So, for the last day, I've attempted time and time again to learn more about what rights men supposedly lack, and you cannot tell me. You've consistently failed to answer this question for a…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 03:23 PM
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You've been combing through my comments and spam-replying, so I'm keeping my answer all in the one place. 97%? Where'd you get that from? A highly credited person, or some random person on reddit or another social media? How was the research? Did research even happen? YouGov, a reputable global public opinion, market research and data-analytics company carried out a study that revealed that 97% of young women have been sexually harassed. I heard a story that a guy got jailed for 25+ years just '…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 03:08 PM
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Why do you put random capital letters where they don't belong? Why don't you punctuate? Yes, I did. Perhaps you should actually read the report. Stop deflecting attention from your weak argument. Just like you can't answer my question about what rights men don't yet have (because men don't lack any human rights), you can't tell me a country in this day and age where "the draft" is in action and circumstantial to the male vote (while women can hypothetically vote freely in contrast). You're alway…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 02:29 PM
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You do have to be specific here because it is apparent that you are talking complete nonsense. A quick trip to Google will confirm that what I stated about women not being allowed passports is true; this report shows that at the time, 32 countries require women to get permission from their husbands to apply for a passport. In August 2019 women in one of those countries, Saudi Arabia, finally granted women the right to have a passport independent of their "male guardian". There has been no "draft…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 02:13 PM
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They still ultimately have the right to vote. You know, I'm not actually convinced that what you are saying is true. Can you please tell me specifically where this is taking place in this day and age? Which countries? Be specific and provide evidence.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 01:58 PM
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"I am not my gender". Oh cool, so you're all non-binary then? Happy coming-out.
/r/MensRights23/03/21 01:39 PM
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I found one. In countries where women have the right to vote men have to sign up for the draft in order to be able to vote get financial assistance for uni etc. Women don't have to sign up for the draft to get the right to vote. You just listed an example where men have the right to vote and get financial assistance for university. I asked you what specific rights men don't have? You can't research something that doesn't exist. Can you please give me an actual example of a right that men don't y…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 01:24 PM
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I'm clearly not illiterate. I told you I read it and I responded accordingly previously. It still doesn't answer my question. What specific rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights23/03/21 01:09 PM
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Why would you have unconditional bias and hatred of an entire section of the population who have no choice over their gender, regardless of their personality, or if they would treat you with kindness and with respect? Do you also agree with other forms of prejudice and discrimination, like racism, homophobia and antisemitism? You truly hate every single woman you have ever encountered? Why? Women create and birth life. We're mothers, daughters, sisters, cousins, aunts, dear friends, girlfriends …
/r/MensRights23/03/21 12:15 PM
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I appreciate your perspective and that you feel men and women are equally as disadvantaged. As you are presumably a man, you'll obviously be looking at and experiencing the world with a very different perspective to the way I do as a woman. If you've never experienced the world as a woman, how could you possibly understand how distressing and exhausting misogyny is? However, I try not to let my heart sink when I read comments like that because it just highlights how few men are aware of the full…
/r/MensRights23/03/21 01:20 AM
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Funny how I just gave you one linked to a law that you stated. Sorry, what law are you specifically referencing here? When did I talk about said law? What are you talking about? The article you referenced is not an example of a law. What rights don't men have, supposedly?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:48 PM
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Right, so the drop in the ocean of sexual assaults being committed by women unto men, rather than the other way around, can result in a pregnancy. According to a 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, 1 in 71 men is a victim of sexual assault and 95% of 1 in 71 men reported that their abuser was a man. It’s true that women also assault men, but even when victims of all genders are combined, men perpetrate almost all of the assaults. It feels out of touch to exclusively focus …
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:33 PM
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An hour ago you asked me the following. What human rights don't women have. They have All the human rights. We aren't going on about human rights we are going on about equal rights. I answered you. Why are you denying that you asked me that question? Hilarious. Socioeconomic equality is a human right, for the record. . What specific rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:18 PM
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No, I discussed the issue of what human rights women lack because you asked me about it. What rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:03 PM
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What specific rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:48 PM
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Please learn the difference between their, they're and there. Please learn how to punctuate. You can't research something that doesn't exist. What specific rights do men lack?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:33 PM
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-Across the globe 40% of women of childbearing age live in countries with highly restrictive abortion laws, or with abortion forbidden altogether. In 2018 the UN Human Rights Committee asserted in 2018 that access to abortion and prevention of maternal mortality are human rights. -There are countries where it is still incredibly difficult or forbidden for women to vote, such as the Vatican City, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uganda, Kenya, Oman, Qatar, Egypt, Papa New Guinea, Zanzibar and…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 10:18 PM
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Academic papers or books which state that men don't have human rights do not exist. I had a simple question. What human rights do men not have?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 09:29 PM
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Prove me wrong.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 09:11 PM
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Oh, it's a very simple question with a very simple answer, which is that men don't lack any human rights. Prove me wrong.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 08:56 PM
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Do your own research. So do you remember the fact that I've mentioned about five times that I cannot find any academic papers or academic books which support the notion of judicial bias against men or which entertain the notion that men lack any human rights. You can't research a topic that is complete connerie.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 08:42 PM
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Someone doesn't have the answer...
/r/MensRights22/03/21 08:26 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to write that. It's a very good question. I've had this question before, both concerning egalitarianism and humanism. Feminism is not called humanism or egalitarianism because feminism, humanism and egalitarianism are three distinct theories. I'm sure you know this already and I appreciate that you didn't ask, but humanism has about as much to do with gender equality as the Spice Girls have to do with paprika. Humanism is a philosophical belief system based on the p…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 07:50 PM
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While I'm not in my politics exclusively concerned about men's rights, because gender inequality disproportionately affects women, in this instance and this very conversation I'm keenly interested in learning about men's rights, specifically as to what they are lacking in, and you cannot answer me that. What specific rights do men lack? It is a very simple question.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 07:23 PM
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You can't answer me as to what rights men supposedly lack because you don't have an answer. Unless you elaborate, this is a reasonable conclusion to draw after you've failed to answer a basic question over 5 times. Again, there are no academic resources I can find on the subject.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 07:08 PM
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That is not an educational resource or an academic book about gender inequality, nor does it answer my question as to what rights men lack.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 06:53 PM
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You know I'm right. There's no queue of women for your babies or your money. That's why you're so mad at women and feminists. No need to stress about child support. There is no emergency here. Chill. Instead put all of that energy into learning how to communicate without resorting to emotional outbursts and typing in capital letters.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 06:38 PM
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Mate, men seem to be swimming in rights, and I can't find any academic books about men's rights, nor have you recommended a single one. I've read many books on gender inequality and have plenty of recommendations for you. You've clearly read absolutely zilch on gender inequality. You still can't answer me - what rights don't men have? I want gender equality but I also want a space where men can speak of the problems that they face. The "problems" that men face is not the same thing as men not ha…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 06:22 PM
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Your content is angry, scattered and nonsensical, and you've clearly lost control of your emotional state. Your writing is migraine inducing, but my eyes were drawn to this.. I'm pro-equality BECAUSE I'm NOT a feminist. ...You must have such a low IQ. The definition of feminism is "the belief in social, economic, and political equality of the sexes". And my eyes glanced at another argument where you conflate risk of pregnancy with consent to pregnancy. I think you are beyond reasoning with. I st…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 06:07 PM
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I truly cannot find an instance where men are singled out not to have a particular human right. I've asked you about 5 times, so as to be an ally, what rights do men lack? I'm asking you outright, seeing as you're an expert, and you cannot answer me. Your second Link doesn't give the Link to the statistics used. Actually, I think you'll find it does. They're the biggest charity for single parents in the UK and there are references at the bottom of the page. ...and the third Link is a newspaper t…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 05:52 PM
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I've raised plenty of points in this thread about the link between misogyny and misandry, in order to help eradicate both forms of prejudice and discrimination. Forgive me, but you can't even answer me on what books you have read about gender equality or what rights men don't yet have. I've asked you multiple times as to what the latter answer is so that I can be an ally, should men experience socioeconomic gender inequality due to discrimination on some level, and you cannot answer me or tell m…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 05:36 PM
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We haven't established any of those things you have just said that they happen with no evidence. They're all factual and have societal evidence. Let's explore. -My first point:"We have established that men do indeed have bodily autonomy and reproductive rights, as they have contraceptive options available to them." What specific evidence are you requesting here? You're aware that vasectomies and condoms are contraceptive options available for men, right? Men have reproductive rights. -My second …
/r/MensRights22/03/21 05:20 PM
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I've brought valid arguments and facts to the discussion and each time you fail to acknowledge them. I have a host of books I can recommend that you should read to educate yourself on gender equality - what are your recommendations for me? What books have you read on gender equality and discrimination? How did those books enlighten you? Additionally, I have every right to discuss issues pertaining to gender equality on a supposed gender equality forum. Stop trying to gatekeep this discussion jus…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 04:42 PM
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I pointed out that men already have reproductive rights and bodily autonomy now, concerning their own bodies, with further additional improvements to hormonal contraception (not the only form of contraception available to men) to be available in the foreseeable future. I've asked you to elaborate on what rights men don't have, so that I can be an ally if men are indeed suffering from socioeconomic gender inequality due to discrimination. We have established that men do indeed have bodily autonom…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 04:27 PM
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This doesn't feel like a discussion and you won't acknowledge my points above about misogyny and misandry. That's not true that I advocate for misandry - I've never made a misandrist statement. I actually even only invited you to open a discussion with me about men's rights in a separate comment. Why are you threatened by women talking about women's rights?
/r/MensRights22/03/21 04:03 PM
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Of course it is true, but even if it weren't, how would you know that or be able to prove it? Obviously you aren't me, therefore you don't have my lived experience. Also, you have eyes and ears, right? You're really telling me you've been totally oblivious to other men making violent, rapey, sexist or boundary pushing comments and jokes towards women your whole life? It's such a "normal" ubiquitous thing in society and is so widely discussed. Just look at the mainstreaming of this mentality. Tak…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 02:37 PM
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No. First of all, these concepts are not mutually exclusive yet are independent of each other. Secondly, historically, men oppressed women for centuries, millennia in fact; misandry was not the catalyst for misogyny. Thirdly, dismantling misandry won't dismantle misogyny; the pursuit of challenging misandry starts with erasing misogyny. Once more, I don't advocate either form of prejudice/discrimination.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 02:21 PM
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No, I didn't state that at all. There must be a misunderstanding. I stated that a lifetime of misogyny creates misandry. I advocate neither. If you want to erase misandry from society, you need to work on also erasing misogyny.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 02:05 PM
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Forgive me, I'd love to include this in my activism, but I can't see any instances where men don't have rights - could you please enlighten me? There are claims that men don't have reproductive rights, but male hormonal contraception is under development and the only reason it doesn't yet exist on the market is because the adverse side effects towards men were taken incredibly seriously, despite being precisely the same side effects women endure with hormonal contraception and this being tolerat…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:50 PM
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You do realise that this sub is called men's rights not women's rights. Are you threatened by the idea of a balanced discussion where women's rights are also considered? Gender equality would be an impossible goal without also discussing women's rights, especially given the fact that gender inequality disproportionately affects women. Is your goal gender equality, or for the law to only serve to protect men? Yes there is a bias in the law and in fact if you didn't live in your own bubble you wou…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:20 PM
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I'm here to discuss gender equality which is not one-sided (hence the word equality), so no, as a woman I am not exclusively concerned with men's rights. Are you willing to have a conversation that discusses concepts that differ to your own opinions, or do you just want to live in your own bubble? So yet if a man can't support the child and the women keeps it he is forced to provide but if the woman can't provide she can just get rid. Child support is calculated by reference to a father's means.…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:03 PM
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Oh my days, there is so much ignorance, pseudoscience and sexist nonsense to unpack here. "Okay, your brain has definitely been rotten by feminism". Why are you so threatened and pressed by women striving to achieve socioeconomic equality? "what I'm saying is that the current law is SEXIST, and that abortion is sexist in the absence of paper abortion. You wouldn't know sexism if it slapped you across the face if men not achieving the legal right to neglect their children financially is all you h…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 12:34 PM
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That's not what I concluded - I made a distinction between one scenario terminating an embryo or fetus and another scenario creating financial neglect for a developed child and there is a huge difference. There's a distinction between a woman realising that for whatever reason, having a baby at that moment in her life would be deeply unethical so therefore decides to terminate an embryo or early stage fetus (not a developed being). It's a situation that while difficult, is often the kindest thin…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:57 AM
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It's true, unfortunately. This is sadly the reality of my experience and I really hope it will change.
/r/MensRights22/03/21 11:40 AM
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You clearly don't support abortion. Being pro-choice means that you unconditionally support and believe that pregnant women should have the freedom to choose an abortion, but this is heavily contradicted when you fixate on this being conditional to men having the "right" to financially neglect their children. It's negated when you state that the issue of women having bodily autonomy is a trivial one. Conditional "support" isn't support. You're complaining about women "lying about taking the pill…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 03:27 AM
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Your previous comments didn't make sense in a literal, linguistic way or alongside their original context. Please read over your previous correspondence and you'll see that it hurts the eyes. I did read your previous conversation with Baljeet and I witnessed that this person wasn't getting anywhere in convincing you that women should have basic body autonomy. Even with that context, your previous messages made very little sense. I appreciate that you have taken my critiques into consideration an…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 03:11 AM
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But you don't support abortion. Your "support" to the matter only extends to the extent it benefits men. You're still not getting it - your writing is migraine inducing. Reading over every single one of your previous comments is not an option. I read the relevant ones on the discussion I interjected in. Don't misquote me. I said that pregnancy is a risk of sex, not "sex is consent for children". I disagreed with you on the latter previously. Yet again, paper abortion would result in children bei…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:50 AM
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"Seeing me saying things despite the fact that" are words that do not make sense in a sequence. "BUT that the problem is using an "equality" justification rather than a "privilege" one". -What point are you trying to make here? It doesn't make sense, even/especially with the context. "Nobody cares about male-exclusive specificities and problem related to their own biology, " -What are "male-exclusive specificities"? What on earth do you mean in this sentence? "ssince there's a deep hypocrisy whe…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 01:13 AM
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Has it occurred to you that your writing doesn't translate as smoothly as you think it does? It's migraine inducing. You're hardly a poet laureate with sentences like "we need to overcome natural difference and adjust the whole world to them because EQUALITY", to "fuck you, it's just biological differences so it's not the same", to "the "biology" argument only ever apply when it favors women (e.g. free sanitary towels), biology matters but there's still a lot of work to do for biological differe…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 12:57 AM
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Thank you for letting me know I'm welcome in the discussion. I'm really sorry, but what you just said about women's issues being taken seriously just does not align with what most women are saying, or my own lived experience. As a woman I can confirm that women's problems are not being taken at all "seriously". It took the tragedy of what happened to Sarah Everard to even start a discussion in the media and on social media about misogyny and violence towards women, yet #notallmen was trending ab…
/r/MensRights22/03/21 12:41 AM
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Here's the distinction - an abortion terminates a fetus - dodging childcare potentially leaves a child neglected. Most abortions in the UK happen in the early stages, often only involving a mere cluster of cells, 10 weeks and earlier; please note that doctors add a further 2 weeks to the point of conception, so a "10 week" fetus was conceived only 8 weeks prior. A woman terminating a hypothetical future child in the form of a zygote, embryo or fetus is not the same as a man neglecting an actual …
/r/MensRights22/03/21 12:09 AM
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This makes no sense in the context of what I just said. Not agreeing with your points is not "offending" myself.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:51 PM
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I can read - I simply don't agree with your points. The hilarity of being told to learn how to read by someone who cannot construct proper sentences with proper points is providing me with entertainment this evening. I know what the concept of a "paper abortion" means, and while as a concept men having the "right" not to have a child would sound great if it wouldn't potentially leave a child suffering neglect, the reality of the situation is quite different. Pregnancy is a risk of sex and men ha…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:45 PM
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I'm not illiterate, although a lot of your correspondence verges on being indecipherable. You need to learn how to communicate in a rational, logical manner. Your comments are a mishmash of contradictory statements, many of which make zero sense. In your first paragraph above, you conflate the world attempting to catch up with gender equality after millennia of socioeconomic discrimination and inequality disproportionately affecting women ("we need to overcome natural difference and adjust the w…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:30 PM
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Once more, totally nonsensical. Your support to abortion is circumstantial to it only suiting the father, even if that results in either the woman having the trauma of going through a nonconsensual pregnancy (and the birth and raising the child) or the trauma or losing a pregnancy against her will. This does not concern men. This concerns the woman's health, mental health, finances and opportunities in life, plus the ethics of bringing an unwanted child into the world; paying child support is no…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:04 PM
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Knowing that a pregnancy is a risk of sex is not the same thing as forcing a woman to endure a pregnancy nonconsensually. And yes, you sound like a lunatic.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 10:51 PM
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Thank you so much for clarifying. I now understand where you are coming from. I presumed you meant the potential life takes priority over the woman's life. I read through everything that you posted on this thread and I'm incredibly grateful. As someone who has had to have an abortion after experiencing a consent violation, it spared my sanity that someone stood up for women in my position.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 10:46 PM
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You make very little sense (advocating for abortion yet making contradictory statements) and can't seem to comprehend that in a pregnancy, the only person whose bodily autonomy it concerns is the one carrying the pregnancy. Consent to sex does not mean "consent to children" - what theeee actual hell. Oh, and you have no right to dictate if someone should or should not have sex. Sod off.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 10:41 PM
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This comment possibly won't go down well and it'll possibly feel like I'm in "enemy waters" despite the fact everyone here has the common goal of gender equality, but I just want to put something into perspective. While those comments are utterly despicable, they're most likely a result of frustration from a severe lack of sympathy and support towards women from men concerning sexual assaults against women. I don't see enough men raising awareness about misogyny and violence and sexual assault t…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 10:37 PM
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I'm a feminist and I don't see all men as monsters. Of course I don't. I adore, respect and learn from the men in my life. I'm still wary around men I don't know at night for obvious reasons, however. I care about gender equality, that's all.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 10:20 PM
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Thanks for clarifying, but I'm afraid I don't agree that being in a "relationship" should affect her body autonomy. If said man supposedly wants a child that badly, why doesn't he do so consensually with someone else? Or find an egg donor and surrogate mother?
/r/MensRights21/03/21 09:35 PM
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As someone who has had to previously rely on an abortion (early stages at only 5-6 weeks in medical terms which in real terms is only 3-4 weeks after conception) after being stealthed, a form of sexual assault, I'm really upset after reading this post and finding this side of the internet. I know I shouldn't have to caveat those words with the following because it does not negate how serious an offense the above is, but I can't use hormonal contraception because of the side effects and I found t…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 09:28 PM
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The horror-story level entitlement to discussing women's bodies aside, have you considered that some women can't use hormonal contraceptives or coils? I'm one of them. Hormonal contraception gave me extreme depression, and the coil (paragard) was like birthing satan every single time I had a period with it in (I was in so much pain I was screaming like labour pains; it was not an option to try it out for a full year to "see if it gets better"). A male hormonal birth control shot was developed bu…
/r/MensRights21/03/21 09:10 PM
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I was relieved to read this comment until the bottom where you prioritise an embryo over an actual woman.
/r/MensRights21/03/21 08:32 PM
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Um, that's not what you said previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 07:28 PM
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2 days ago, and you didn't use irony according to its true meaning. It took me a quick glance to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:29 AM
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Well commenting about if "sex is a need"/right contradicts that supposed claim that it isn't about male victimhood...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:24 AM
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Come on, no one is buying that given that 90% of your groups and comments involve wondering if your inability to get laid is systemic oppression. This type of content is the antithesis of demonstrating respect for women as it debates/implies that women owe men sex. Again, not respecting women places a stumbling block to happiness and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:20 AM
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I don't believe there's anything left I can say to help you, if all you care about is your own personal gain in situations where others suffer inequality and violence. Yet, and in answer to your question, happiness and love are at the other side, if you can manage to stop hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:55 AM
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If you don't address that contempt, it's going to ruin your life. As much as I've bickered with you previously out of disgust at so many of the comments I've witnessed, I truly mean this in a more caring and sincere way: if you don't fix how you see and treat women, that bitterness will make your life increasingly difficult and true happiness will remain an intangible mirage. Additionally, it's a win for both women and yourself if you learn to love and respect women as women will find you more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:48 AM
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Yes actually. What happened? Why do you hate/obsess over women so much? Did a woman reject you and now you have a chip on your shoulder?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:35 AM
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It would be precisely how it is now. You just described the world perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:29 AM
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No, I didn't. I'm just surrounded by misogynists that think that sexual assault and nonconsensual porn are normal. Don't you realise how messed up it is how comfortable you all are with those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:22 AM
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Women cannot consent to being groped through "giving off signals" to people they are evidently not in a sexual relationship with. Enthusiastic consent can only be derived from both language used and body language (but not body language alone) after verbal consent. Please educate yourself on this matter. This conversation is so unbelievably rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:12 PM
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Haha, exactly, just like a toddler who is upset about not getting their way. I don't stop talking on command for anyone but my boss or my parents, so I'm certainly not going to do so for a little incel on the Internet who advocates sexual assault, nonconsensual porn and child porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 11:07 PM
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What part of me now saying "you can't control women" don't you seem to be able to grasp? I'll talk if I want to. If you want to end the conversation, leave. You can't just "mute" a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:56 PM
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You're still creating demand for nonconsensual and child porn by proxy through using porn streaming sites. So the fundamentals of supply and demand start with the consumer, so until you and other people stop using it, you're fueling the sites' existence, and you're collectively a part of that problem. Sure, you don't watch it. Pfffft. As listed previously, there are ways to enjoy porn without using unethical porn streaming sites. Well, what would your friends and your mum say if they knew you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:50 PM
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It makes perfect sense as to why people shouldn't watch free porn from those sites. 1)You're creating demand for nonconsensual content and child porn and 2)It's not supporting the sex workers involved. What is so difficult to understand? Just because child porn is illegal doesn't mean it devastatingly doesn't still happen. Stop supporting those sites, you absolute pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:46 PM
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Stop conflating friendly consensual gestures between friends and going up and aggressively sexually harassing and groping a stranger. Jesus. And btw, grabbing and groping IS INDEED sexual assault under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 09:40 PM
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He's the stupid man's "thinking man". There is a reason why many intellectuals cannot stand him. His harvard peers think he's a crook and he is not respected at all in academia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:23 PM
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Porn in itself as a concept is not unethical - its 2021 and it's obscure not to be pro-sex these days. However, the type of porn we watch is an ethical issue. If you watch one of the free "hubs" or "tubes", you're keeping some grand fromage in Silicon Valley rich while the porn stars earn barely a fraction of what they should. Get your porn directly from sex workers and on OF. Additionally, these free upload sites are rife with nonconsensual revenge and underage porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:18 PM
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What you are describing is assault and something nonconsensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 02:14 PM
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Only 1.5% of rapes lead to charge or summons, and those are the ones that women are brave enough to survive. As a violent rape survivor who was treated appallingly by the police leading me to decide not to prosecute, please do your research. Women are far more likely to be raped than men are to be falsely accused.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/03/21 02:24 AM
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