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Awareness of one's awareness does not need to make behavior predictable. it still is predictable You wouldn't use your ability to arbitrarily change how you perceive things to hurt yourself. that ability doesn’t exist and arbitrary doesn’t exist either and is just a description for not understanding why. What it is useful for is making your life easier by using it as an on / off switch to make things that are unenjoyable, enjoyable. no, that doesnt work. enjoyment is a feeling and you can’t deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:36 AM
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yeah. if you had been brought up with her, I bet you would not be attracted to her. In my opinion there is really nothing wrong with it unless they are too close to have genetic degeneration. I still think someone like that would be a better genetic pick than a random girl who is significantly less attractive. I personally would not give a fuck about stigma, if there is no genetic issues there is no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:28 AM
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you dont need to observe subjective experiences. You use logic and your yourself to predict people behavior, of course it is very inaccurate, but you can make predictions that will be always accurate or nearly always accurate. people make money like this and all science is build on this idea. If you were right you could not predict human behavior, but you can. not every detail, but you still can predict the significant stuff, so I am right. otherwise nobody would be able to communicate with each…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:14 AM
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Here's an example of what I'm talking about for more clarity. Let's say there's a certain food that you dislike. Perhaps it's fish oil. Drinking it makes you gag and you hate its taste. You don't find it to be a necessary part of your diet. If you can make a decision that you love fish oil and it's your most favorite shit to drink ever and you drink it and you find yourself genuinely enjoying it despite hating it just mere seconds ago, that's you exercising your consciousness. that’s exactly why…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:42 AM
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That's evopsych in a nutshell. why do you think that giving it a name undermines its validity? thats just an authority argument from another angle. Consciousness is not the feeling of awareness though. Consciousness is the observation of the feeling of awareness and it does have the power to override all of the body's automatic responses and suggestions that the brain makes. no. thats an illusion of awareness. everything is impulse, if that impulse is an immeadiate trigger mechanism or or a comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:10 AM
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not really. What you are conscious about and how you react is predetermined by experience and perception. consciousness is the feeling of awareness and the reference point. it has nothing to do with actions and consciousness doesnt do or control anything, you dont really decide what you do. thats why behavior is predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:51 AM
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I think the repulsion from this comes from the role they had in childhood in relationship to you and is not recognized biologically, if you never met them, they will be attractive like any other people, tbh in nature humans lived in small groups so they mostly reproduced with relatives to some degree, but still had gene flow with other groups. the truth is this is not biologically abnormal and more of a cultural and conscious psychological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:43 AM
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Evopsych explanation of relationships is really misleading. The brain and the rest of the body are the hardware. The consciousness is the software. no, talking about consciousness like that is misleading. The hardware is the genes, the software is the learned experience based how your hardware processed the inputs you got. Your consciousness is the perception of awareness and sort of like a logical mechanism that overrides impulses and coordiniates its own logical impulses that are not that abru…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 08:33 AM
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they dont just have opinions, the are hateful people following wokeness like a religion. an opinion is something that can change. these people are emotionally tied to that believe and use it to justify violence and oppression in its name
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:24 AM
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feminism and wokeness is one and the same. anti gender role aka marxism. The mindset is the same hate fueled cult like aggressive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:19 AM
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the thing is they already have more freedoms than men. If a woman to me mentions anything like rights and women in the same sentence given that they are legally and socially privileged, its a huge red flag and signals low self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:17 AM
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I think its rather traits in them that you valued, not their appearance or behavior in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:14 AM
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How strange that you would view a physically weaker man as lesser, its not strange at all. see, to you its strange because your a woman, and women don’t compete with esch other on physical strength. but men do. the more physically weaker a man is the more verbally or intellectually dominant he has to do to be respected. If I know I can beat someone up, that guy in my head is beneath me because I can overpower him. maybe if he severely outcompetes me in other aspects it’s different, but generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 07:00 AM
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Its all women. its just a matter of how idealistic they are. women virtue signal and lie about this. But they still want all the same. If you dont have these characteristics, you wont get any attractive women even if you look good just because of "love". love for women is cheap, because they are showered in it to the point they are desensitized and repulsed by it. any women can get love instantly from a guy who matches looks. If women complain about love, which is abundant for them, they are nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 06:47 AM
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Better than greater / lesser is finding someone who complements your own strengths and weaknesses. that what people naturally do. the judgement typically comes to to look for the best possible chance to reward ratio. Assigning valence to it is weird, and probably sexist. I wouldn’t say it’s weird in itself, the weird part is trying to measure men and women up on the same characteristics. you cant objectively frame someone as lesser unless you measure the same characteristics, and thats bs becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:29 PM
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and yet women list 6 foot and 6 figures before anything else often. women rank men on their money, height production power, status etc. dont virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:59 PM
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mainly stacking additional height and money on top of everything else to reach absolute numbers and lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:53 PM
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depends on what you see as lesser. men want to help and provide and therefore need someone less able in that regard, but at the same time dont measure themselfs up on strength, leadership and provision against women because they dont value women for that. you just cant equate equal terms because genders look for opposing qualities that can be equally beneficial to each other but not equal in terms of self sustainability and strength, which is the mans biological role. to frame that as wanting so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:12 PM
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yeah, but you have it somewhat confused. men dont think of equal in terms of the same metrics. They dont want someone lesser, they just want someone with different attributes than themselves. thats not more or less. but men and women are hierarchical by nature, and men wanting to lead women and for women to submit to them has nothing to do with viewing them as "lesser", because men don’t compare themselves with women in terms of abilities they dont value. men are physically stronger and have a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:05 PM
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think about other mammals. male lions who take over a pride will kill the other males offspring because they want the wombs and energy to be used on their own offspring, because any energy spent on the other ones is energy that could have been spent on his offspring.they will kill other lesser males who go near their females in nature if necessary. there is no mammal on this planet where the males are not possessive of females. why would they, investing in someone elses offspring is not advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:03 PM
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yeah, but you have it somewhat confused. men dont think of equal in terms of the same metrics. They dont want someone lesser, they just want someone with different attributes than themselves. thats not more or less. but men and women are hierarchical by nature, and men wanting to lead women and for women to submit to them has nothing to do with viewing them as "lesser", because men don’t compare themselves with women in terms of abilities they dont value. men are physically stronger and have a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:00 PM
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you are not address obvious issues. men are territorial by nature. there is no way a woman get get resources from multiple men, because these men will kill each other and the other males offspring. In practice, women would have sex with the leaders, lie about it and cuck some lesser dude. yes this is evolutionarily beneficial, but counterproductive to society because men dont like be be used. Thats why society is a deal between the sexes to contain mating strategies to meet in the middle for eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:52 PM
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You are just as bad as the women you’re describing, you think we’re all the same because of a few YouTube videos. No women ik behaves that way. I have watched hundreds of videos, and I also know women in real life. Sure they are not all that extreme, and its the same direction. at the end of the day, they have high body counts and are not serious about life. ?There is nothing wrong with women having high body counts. there is everything wrong with that because these same women can no be mothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:30 PM
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That is an awfully specific standard (no lines? no definition?) that men certainly don’t all seem to share. yeah not all but the majority I would say. all men I know agree with this, that to skinny is bad and too fat aswell. To me, women with that much definition look badly nourished, ill, weak and just unhealthy because they are, just not enough to be an issue short term. I’ve definitely been told by guys that rib cage lines and hip bones are sexy. that’s definitely not the norm. I know women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:52 PM
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Women don't think they have more options. Women know when a man is only playing, or at least they should be able to. well, they stay and put up with it anyway, whether they know and try to change them or dont know doesn’t matter, all I know is that they engage with these men , inflated their ego as if they perceived them as options, and than later claim they had no idea. I think most dont know, otherwise they would have that inflated perception of themselves Some women would rather spend a coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:44 PM
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yeah, a propagandistic euphemism for obese
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:17 PM
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dont get me wrong these are valid reasons that massively contribute, but lets not brush aside womens attitude towards family and men. look at all the women on RP channels. all high bodycount, all demand top men, rude, selfish. In any city you can guarantee the girls will have a double digit bodycount at 15 years of age. most women hate men and hate gender roles, and are just narcissists who think everything is about them. whenever a woman is asked about men, its always me me me me. and women ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:16 PM
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they prevent healthy families from happening, create a more more mentally troubled generation from all the broken homes, and birth rates drop, and eventually the proportion of people who are healthy enough to do the productive work will be to small to maintain the economy for all the troubled lesser earning people, and since the imbalance of old and young will be great at some point the economic system just collapses, every one looses their job because there is not enough labor to trade for all …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:02 PM
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yeah, but not at that bodyfat. the ass itself is worthless. more importantly they need a certain proportion and shape of the entire body, and that means the way the waist flows into the hips, ass and legs needs to be smooth and not have abrupt edges. no lines, no definition. as tight and streamlined as possible without revealing definition and edges/ bones/muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:52 PM
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Isn’t kind of funny have you’re a heterosexual man with no experience dating men yet you’re telling me what dating men is like ? yes, I go by how I see women interacting with their bf. that’s enough to tell Neither men or women have a monopoly on being awful people. sure, but only one has propaganda to encourage it, is raised to perform it, and has a society and legal system systematically allowing and promoting it openly on all media. Men don’t bend over backwards for women, maybe sometimes for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:49 PM
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most men will not prefer this because thats not the biological ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:39 PM
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You’re working under a faulty assumption that average looking men aren’t manipulative or abusive at all. not really, they cant afford to be that. sure they be, most most arent. That is most certainly not the case. Even if they aren’t as successful as the attractive ones they can be just as vindictive and spiteful yeah but it’s unlikely unless you constantly mistreated them like most women do these days. generally men bend over backwards for women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:18 PM
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not necessarily. maybe if the trade off is to big for the benefit but that doesn’t apply to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:50 PM
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you need to think about numbers though. the men tricking women is comparatively small, because most men arent top attractiveness. but any woman who is average and especially if shes pretty will have tons of options for sex, and therefore hoes are numerous and these deceptive men are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:49 PM
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the thing is most people are not exactly ideal partners, but if you dont have enough value you cant get someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:46 PM
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Women learn very quickly whether or not someone is interested in them for just sex or not. Men do not try and hide it most of the time. yeah but they fuck them anyway, try to change him and them blame them and say well I was young and dumb and manipulated, and couldn’t tell he used me Why not try and encourage your male friends to stop lying to sleep with women and maybe we can all be more honest with each other why would I do that? what good what that do? these women are fucked anyway because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:25 PM
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no, the expectations are just too high for your value typically. No doubt few men are datable, but the same reasons apply to women and numerous other ones are stacked on top of that, so there have to be less viable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:12 PM
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Ehh for very athletic women, 15-20% is considered normal. yes but thats unhealthy and therefore unappealing visually to men and you mention bodyfat in terms of attraction. to me thats as just as offputting as too much weight Yes, women often have visible abs and bones (e.g. ribs) in this range but that doesn’t mean we are too skinny or unhealthy. yes it does. it just makes the body unpleasant to look at and the face aswell. it looks too lean. women are supposed to look soft and tight. I guess it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:28 PM
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You’ve just responded to my comment with assumptions. In regards to overestimating myself, I’m going by how people perceive me. I’ve been called gorgeous since I was 16 years old, walked in beauty pageants and I constantly had interest from both ugly and hot men. If that’s average, well I don’t know what to tell you. if that is the case, a hot leader type dude with good money should have committed to you. Maybe it is true but you are not submissive, career oriented and masculine in behavior, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:58 AM
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Feminism never tricked me. I was anti feminism in my 20s and believed that being pretty was enough. lol that is literally the delusion feminism pushes. I used to make fun of feminists all the time but then I lived and learned about men. no, you didnt learn. if you did, you would have a good understanding and would know that men want femininity, submission cooperation and gender roles as just like beauty and youth and dont give a shit about accomplishments, money, career, etc. Society taught me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:28 AM
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we are talking about women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:31 AM
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these men likely used to be married and got divorce raped, went MGTOW and have custody of the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:03 AM
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women are attracted to the top men regardless of how good they look by nature for being the top. if all men were models and rich, they would simply only be interested in the new top percenters because women by nature are attracted to relative qualities on top of absolutes. Women want the top for the sake of them being the top of the current pool because hypergamy, just everyone getting more attractive will change nothing. the only solution is for women to not get a top man and accept it or die a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:43 AM
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the are more able to walk about because they think they have more options because so many men want sex with them and they have 5 more in their dms. Women do not have more options than men for serious relationship, just fake relationships with sex. if women were aware of that, they would no longer walk away that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:38 AM
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either you misjudge your bodyfat or you are too skinny and not healthy either btw. around 23-25 seems to be ideal. 18 percent means abs and bones
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:31 AM
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that cant be the issue because obesity is way more frequent in women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:28 AM
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no not at all. women do not have any more options. the number of men is still half the population. women still want families. There is no way for women to have these high standards in looks or finances or anything because men dont grow on trees, and they might be able to be that picky for casual sex but will never be able to have a family with a man like that because there are way more women than men who have all that. what will happen is that this will go on for maybe 1-2 decades, until there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:22 AM
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I can count the attractive young women I have met who are stable on one hand
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:44 PM
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What feminist brainwashing do you see above even though I had almost no exposure to feminists? Sure, I saw feminist messages on the television you had all the feminist ideas being pushed and implemented in school and any part of society, and the media without anyone mentioning them directly. It is subconscious but still completely penetrates everything, every add, anything. Those “other people” are not raising the children for their parents. They are HELPING. they are not supposed to help just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:41 PM
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lol have you seen how they behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:23 PM
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most young women are unstable and for family only young women matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:30 PM
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My natural urge to have a career and provide for my family, despite being female, wasn’t beaten into me. yes it was. You were told to get a career from a very young age and made to connect that with emotions that will never come from that for women. men have careers because naturally they seek a hierarchical position, respect and competence and are rewarded with women and money. women are less viable mates the more they earn and work, and you dont have the time and energy to have children aswell…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:29 PM
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most tattooed men are not stable either, but that’s attractive to women so it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:17 PM
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I dont need any proof for common sense. You can say what you want, I know these women are hoes and for one person I wrongly dismissed there would have been hundreds that should have been avoided upfront. I will never take the chance on someone like that, and regardless of all the shame and whatever bs, men instinctively know tattoos relate to undesirable behavior. no man worth a damn will not immeadiately overlook a woman who is heavily tattooed, tattooed in a way that can not be covered up, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:45 PM
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I’m not saying these people are the majority; but they are growing in commonality. yes, because people get their natural urges beaten out of them since childhood and are unhappy and productive defective next generations. Different cultures differ on what we view as feminine and masculine. no. We are all the same animal. feminine and masculine and gender roles, interests behavior etc is biologically hardcoded into our genes. any culture had the exact same understanding of male and female role, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:42 PM
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lol only the majority matters. why do women always go to the unlikely? yes there are men like that, and these men might be surgeons or what ever, but they aren’t naturally dominant or very masculine because these men are repulsed by that because there is zero polarity, and it logically makes no sense. Its just bad for children to have 2 career parents. Its just not a psychologically suitable environment in any way. I either want a family and have an ideal environment to make it worthwhile, or do…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:11 PM
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no, its just a guess. I dont care what the number is. we can generalize. a counter example does not disprove a rule that generally applies. we cant get nowhere without a generalized judgement. It applies to the large majority and everyone knows this by observation and because it logically follows from the nature and details about the action we are judging here. There is no arguing this. the prejudice is valid and true most of the time, so the only smart thing to do is to act accordingly and avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:56 PM
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I’m sorry but it sounds like you just have a massive disdain for women yeah I have since feminism and how disgusting their behavior is. I would have respect for women who knew their place in society and understood their role and restrictions and wouldn’t jump on the ability to discriminate and be evil when the media and laws offer it to them. how would you not dislike women when they started to abandon their role, started to disrespect is despite owing everything society is to men, ruining their…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:29 PM
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well its not your job, you dont have to but since women are approached non stop you will just greatly reduce the quality and opportunities. the same applies to women, but the average man isnt gonna get approached like women are, so if you dont take action as a man you wont get shit. thats just how biology has set it up. if your really attractive, women will approach, you but women approaching means sending heavy signals for you to ask them out. they will never do the hard part because of ego and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:06 PM
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If being a housewife back then was so great why did women oppose it. because the feminist media campaign started and installed fear of men in them by bombarding them with abuse stories, and selling them the lie that they could have all the advantages men have with no repercussions and were not aware of the benefits they have and just fell for the propaganda. Initially women did not want to work or vote, because that come with obligations to the military back then. Men tend to naturally abuse the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:35 PM
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men used to be able to support housewives. that changed when women entered the workforce because if you drastically increase offer more than demand, the price of labor drops. The reason why men can not support this is because of all the women who choose to work and increasing taxation. If you want it to change, oppose taxation, oppose student loans, oppose all the socialism bs that requires taxation and have women quit the work force, and it will magically be reversed. It womens fault for having…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:57 PM
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parents should tell young girls what to do. how many fathers tell their daughters what to do especially concerning men? and btw. most women do not do it even if they were told multiple times? Technically its your parents fault because its their obligation, but after 20 it is definitely your responsibility to get how the world works, and women by nature can not really recover from severe mistakes and therefore need male guidance from fathers to not fuck up. but it requires following and most girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:10 PM
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Never seen anyone boost a woman up just for her gender. yes you do, but you dont realize it because you dont know the motivations of the employer. men generally get treated much harsher for the same mistakes, and much of the friendliness at work towards employed women is artificial and completely based on being female. If you care to observe how employed men are treated, its clear they get treated differently for the same stuff, cant make that many mistakes, and are getting mistreated for stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:59 PM
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lol thats even worse. wtf is wrong with you to talk such bs? men are structurally openly discriminated against by law, job and socially and you sit here claiming they have it difficult when they live on easy mode both in every aspect of live just because they frame a narrative and are biologically less able to compete with men on male soft skills? they are advantaged by law, have social benefits for having a pussy men dont have, dont need to do anything to get anything handed to them and have pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:59 AM
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Im allowed to be triggered when you behave badly. You are not allowed to be triggered by an objective statement of truth because it conflicts with your victim narrative you need to get benefits you don’t deserve. Im just triggered by degenerate behavior, your triggered by virtuous behavior because it threatens the narrative females use to exploit and manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:56 AM
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yes it is. calling this creepy is so weird and out of place, but thats just how women behave. when their fake innocence is dismantled, they default to shame insults gilt etc to save face. its like women are on autopilot. as soon as women do actions that make them look bad and these are pointed out, there always is the same out of place robotic response.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:25 AM
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it means they market themselves as sex objects and then complain when people point it out, because they would rather play victim and claim men did it to evade judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:21 AM
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yes you can. if you present yourself to other people as an object, you objectify yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:20 AM
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so just shaming bs for no reason. just an attack for being triggered by women looking bad and your hivemind victime narrative being challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:19 AM
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Not every woman expects to marry a more “successful” husband (and success is subjective ). that doesnt mean they dont think they deserve it. Studies show (learn about assertive mating) there is no assertive mating when women dont make a distinction between men chasing purely for sex and most women are with superior men in some way when they are young women are increasingly marrying those with similar jobs and salaries so it’s more egalitarian (not saying entirely equal but closer than before). y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:10 AM
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that such bullshit. women socially are extremely advantaged by nature, modern society brainwashes men to simp and further amplify this and there is quotas, preferencial hiring and women always are hired just for being female. and they legally have more rights than men. please, women already are forcefully advantaged in anything you could legally enforce, men are essentially discriminated against but men still are biologically build for working, leading and competence hierarchies so of course the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:02 AM
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no, men want a traditional housewife. no man wants a woman to work. thats just counterproductive in every way, but most people do not earn enough money for that. women want to work while doing all that because they dont want to depend on men. men dont care about that and always say I dont care what you earn or where you work, and any man with money will say he wants a traditional housewife who works for him at home not for some company
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:54 AM
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only in theory, in practice how do you tax private prostitution? You could just choose to not pay taxes, and there is no way to logistically control it. almost anyone could do it, and there is no way for the government to enforce taxation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:36 AM
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no thats unenforceable and bs. men pay all the taxes anyway because women take more from the collective than they produce. If anything women need to be taxed by cutting of the stuff they get for free that men produced and payed in form of taxes. most women can barely pay there student loan debt lol. and you coming at me like tax men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:31 PM
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dude, the french revolution is the reason we dont live in a monarchy still. It ended monarchy, caused a chain reaction of other countries to have revolutions etc. It was the incorporation of the enlightenment ideas by force. the establishment sure as hell didnt want to give that up. wtf is wrong with you? the french revolution is the only thing that seperates us from the dark ages and absolutism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:28 PM
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lol who caused the french revolution by force and enlightenment? men. You just talk crap. women are the ally of tyranny and the enemy of freedom because women seek savety more than freedom because they are the weak sex, so offering savety by rules and authoritarian laws and wellfare state gets them to rally against freedom because they get savety and stuff thrown at them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:59 PM
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such bs, you gotta be a women because thats not how masculinity works. when men think of power and status, they think about effort. they dont think about "getting" positions, and they hate submission, and there is no way to have authority without being someones bitch in a tyrannical system. women on the other hand especially angry ones like to torture people through power positions that they can not physically enforce, so they are the ones who need an authoritarian structure to even have any pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:57 PM
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no, thats the excuse to justify it. The real reason is because it enables women to easily earn money with zero way to tax them, making it viable for women to work less and still get the resources without the government and cooperations benefitting off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:50 PM
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no lol, thats not what I said. I said women only the the men they want to fuck with nothing in return. If I gotta do something for sex, shes not really attracted to me and it is a transaction in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:48 PM
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yes. if they are somewhat good looking they are on the phone 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:47 PM
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women only love men they like to fuck. anything else is faking love, so getting a relationship isnt being loved because many men in relationships are not actually loved, just used.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:56 PM
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its illegal because of taxes. if the government can not suck you dry by doing something, it’s forbidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:52 PM
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dont be ridiculous. these women have nothing else to do and text constantly unless at work and even then. If you can text someone else, you can text me. If you dont , Im not important. Its that simple. Friends are also not as serious as relationships, so its less of a deal when a friend takes time because what is communicated is mostly not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:17 PM
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they are just lying and pulling out anything to not get held accountable for their actions. Like equality when men have benefits but differenciation based on being different when its about their advantages, different when same behavior would allow you to retroductively determine their motivations to be shitty, but suddenly claim to be the same to evade retroductive judgement when you come from the non equal angle with facts they themselves admit and deny based on what benefits them in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:13 PM
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no, naming many reasons is deflective and not a response. it doesn’t change the fact that you can generalize it to be overwhelmingly rude and that it means no interest, and default to ghosting. bring up some random subjective reason are an attempt to not admit that this is how it is to be treated, because it clearly states that many women are just rude and using for attention and it would give the less perceptive men an objective way to recognize the rudeness and bs that have put up with for eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:09 PM
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you could put in submission, empathy, compassion and selflessness, femininity, cooperativeness all that is worth dropping some physical points for, but you would have equivalents for men. you honestly would need to list all factors to success which are different. men can not approach random women typically just by the nature of being strangers, whereas women easily could approach total strangers and succeed just as much as if they would know each other, logistics are advantageous for men but use…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:05 PM
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no not at all. tyranny comes from submission authority, which is in inherently female trait. Thats why the vehicle of creating tyranny is through getting women to submit to ideologies first and then have men brainwashed by their mothers. the woke, leftist and feminists etc all are mostly women, and they intentionally target women because they are very vulnerable to group psychology. look how women talk. all the same woke social engineered cultist bs. men are the only voice of reason and against …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 05:59 PM
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no, it is serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:19 PM
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lol wtf is wrong with you? the point still stands. you cant defend the actions of a group of people by claiming you personally do something that is not the majority. like wtf do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:18 PM
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That clingy behavior when you are interested in someone is classic male behavior. Most women even if they like you will not prioritize you. yeah, because they are not really attracted. If a woman does prioritize anything else, there is just no real interest. Its not male not normal. women might prevent themselves from acting that way even when they like someone because they think men are put off by it like women are which is false, but if I do not get prioritized, I will ghost regardless of my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:02 AM
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no, the behavior is common but the majority of women do not have mental illness who cause this, and the same women magically respond immediately in seconds when its a female friend. the common thing is women texting men to milk attention and validation, thats why this behavior is common, not because of some mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:54 AM
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how about the majority and most likely explanation, not extreme and rate examples, why do women always go to the extremes and the unlikely? this is clearly deflective
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:41 AM
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I dont think this is an excuse to not respond because important is important, and if you have some condition that really makes you unaware or paranoid about what to say or something I dont want to date you anyway because that cant work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:40 AM
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Im the first one to say they are very different, but the thing is women conveniently are very different when it suits them and dont like to be different when it doesnt. No doubt female sex drive operates differently and needs some trust etc and is reactive and women are quick to acknowledge this to justify being sexually reserved, but when I use this to explain why casual sex and high body count necessary means using people who women are not attracted to because they can not have been in that ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:32 AM
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yeah, but your personal attributes have nothing to do with your gender. being female doesnt mean mental illness by default, so your condition is irrelevant to describe how women act
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:28 AM
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thats no excuse, its still rude. I dont have to expect people to have mental conditions nor are they excuses for poor behavior. how about thinking about how people perceive your actions? its not all about you, you can’t expect other people to just put up with this and give them the benefit of the doubt when they most likely are just not really interested or just inconsiderate and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:26 AM
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lol what? Im nuts for pointing out that personal issues are not valid to describe reasons for how a group of people behaves and why? seem like you are nuts instead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:24 AM
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yea they should. society needs masculine men, not feminine followers. masculine men are the only defence against any tyranny, and women are already obedient to institutions and government instead of the men, so we need all masculinity possible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:31 AM
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this is not about you. Its about women in general. you can’t justify female behavior with a mental illness YOU have. like wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:28 AM
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this isnt a good setup because you list 2 qualities that can be ignored as a woman but not as a man. A man cant really afford to have below average anything, you would need to add attributes that are important for women but not for men, because the woman would completely outperform the man because you cant really make him stand out because he needs everything to some degree man genetics 7 maintained 6 social skills 5 income 6 logistics 5 woman genetics 10 maintained 8 social skills 7 income 1 lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:25 AM
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no they are not. its always virtue signaling and very vague language. And the obvious things who make women look bad are always denied even though they are obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:36 AM
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what are we supposed to believe? women always lie about their sexuality and virtue signal, and many women do actually fuck men very quickly after meeting them if that guy is hot enough. if have never ever heard any woman here admit to obvious things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:34 AM
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yeah but thats not what this is about. what you mentioned is logical. women evaluating men on what other people think is not rational and is an impulsive primal instincts. Thats why its so ridiculous. Women are psychologically wired to be attracted to social proof and social status, which is equivalent to other peoples option. Thats what Im talking about because thats irrational and just counterproductive in modern times, and women deny it but its clearly observable reality. I want women to admi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:46 AM
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lol, that’s incredibly rude and shows you dont really care because if you did, you would remember. Doesnt matter if its on purpose or not, the reason is still that you do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:31 AM
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thats what guy A symbolizes. it says this man has options and the other guy doesn’t despite hypothetically being attractive aswell, so if you choose A over B the only reason can be the preselection and social proof because this guy is guaranteed to not commit. I mean I know women simp for social proof, status fame preselection and shallow stuff like that, but I want you virtue signalers to be self conscious about denying this so often
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:00 PM
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they can, just their advise sucks. no, its spot on. especially for women. And again also the message to man, as if a man should do all his decisions in live just to get success with women, wtf... I get a job in a field I have interest in, not what gives me better cards in dating. nobody claims that. typically the things men psychologically want are connected to being attractive to women. men want status, want money, want respect, want to be needed, or at least live comfortably which requires a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:57 PM
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yeah, but these men do not have all these options because they arent extroverts who party and meet many knew people, which is required to have options regardless of looks. a man with that personality is usually not someone who wants to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:49 PM
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you don’t understand. its about understanding the reality of dating and male female mating behavior and strategies. That can be beneficial to men or women, and men like that can advise women just as much as men because they all play the same game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:30 PM
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lol are you asking me how is it shallow to like someone because other people like someone ? what is more shallow than evaluating people by how other people think of them? Like that isnt even an attribute of someone. that even worse than judging on money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:25 PM
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no, you just believe what he says and what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:47 PM
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so you admit to women choosing men for what other people think of him rather than any attribute this person has? You admit to women being a shallow hive mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:45 PM
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thats highly unlikely to ever happen because women like a smaller percentage of men. If a woman sees a man as attractive, hes guaranteed to have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:41 PM
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why do women not understand that this is a disney fairy tale. a man with options will not give them up for any particular woman, why would he? there is just no benefit and he would just loose a huge part of his appeal to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:38 PM
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well thats shallow af.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:37 PM
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this doesnt exist . a man who has options will not choose you over having them. thats just not how men operate, at least not men with that much options. Its just a fairy tale and there is no point because women stay with these men anyway either someone with low to moderate options or the guy will not magically give up his leverage because he doesn’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:34 PM
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depends on the friendship. If it’s superficial and there is no real bond, sure Id do it. If that friend is a real friend, no because real friendship is more valuable and you couldn’t date this woman anyway because her personality is useless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:26 PM
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sure its possible, but i general its improbable to have that without having character issues
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:17 PM
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I think you are too generous. If you choose someone wisely and are both serious, there is no way it can go wrong that many times. most people who have lasting relationships do not have many relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:45 PM
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the thing is of you choose responsibly, how can 10 relationships fail? at that point she either chose poorly which is a character flaw or is the reason why they didnt work out. there is no way to seriously date 10 people who were chosen responsibly for long term who all turned out to be defective in some way. that’s impossible unless shes the issue or chooses badly which also means shes is the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:27 PM
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more than 1 per 2 years of dating age, and after 5 at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:36 PM
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there is a huge difference. and there also is a difference between what motives are chosen and which body parts
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:31 PM
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no. I like female aggression during sex so that I actually need force to overwhelm them, but other than that and when their children or pets are threatened zero violence against not even insects. any violence in any other way is insanely repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:28 PM
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yeah, personally attacks again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:56 PM
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yes, and that is stupid because biology inhibits this. Why dont men demand all the social privileges women have that men never had? men didn’t complain because they understood their role and place. women wanting the same freedoms men have biologically is as stupid as men saying they want as much compassion and being protected from the harsh world, and get so much just handed to them. Men accept the unfairness of this because they understand the biological causes. women do not, they really think …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:33 PM
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no, for women as well. no families is bad for anyone, and far more women are on antidepressants then men. Women generally are extremely angry and unhappy as a result of doing what they want. the number of top tier men is limited, and shitting on what men value, being irresponsible etc. can not lead to happy women because happy women need a family , and all women cant be in monogamous relationships with 1 percent of men and men value what they value, and they will necessarily be single and unhapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:19 PM
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yes, it has worked, and the change in the last decades proof me right. As soon as men didnt set the rules anymore, everything went to shit. every great society is build on restricting aspects of female sexuality, that should tell you something. you cant have women completely follow their hypergamous instincts and expect happy families and healthy birthrates, the result is the chaos, mass unhappiness, most people being single, low birthrates etc and all the cultural, moral and social degeneration…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 01:01 PM
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A woman's sexuality is no one's business except hers. lol, of course its my business to understand the psychology of a person I need to risk a lot on. also women are very quick to want to control male sexuality and always shame and try to tell men what they have to like, do knock this bs off. Male sexuality very quickly is female business if a man says he wants a young, non experienced submissive woman. Men can't be trusted with women's sexuality, period. yeah, because female and male sexual str…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:44 PM
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yes because its that simple and you just can’t perceive it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:32 PM
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Cooperation and competition depend on social circumstances. social circumstances are the visible expression of underlying biology that naturally causes certain behaviors to evolve In general, everyone has to cooperate. Only very few leaders are sustainable and people constantly bickering over it is not. Behaviour is mainly different between men and women as social circumstances force them into it. this is such bs. just marxist social constructionism. Male female means different behavioral hardwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:30 PM
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lol what? dating has nothing to do with it and I dont need studies, I just need to observe how people act and recognize patterns like tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:22 PM
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I dont care about that, I just don’t believe it because there is not reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:17 PM
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yes of course not longterm, but they still wanted and pushed for this exact dynamic. The whole reason it is how it is is because women abandoned traditionalism. Women wanted this, but didnt listen when people said it will not work for nobody, they did it anyway and opposed all restrictions, and thats the result. women today are treated like gods my most men, get preferential hiring everywhere and virtually have every privilege over men by force, keep wanting this because short term it benefits n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:15 PM
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yeah, its just the default here. anything that restricts women in their actions and holds them accountable for attributes is labeled as hate. There is no way to criticize women without backlash. thats the brainwashing they have because of media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:59 AM
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what kind of response is this? We are talking about majority. one exception doesnt counter the general rule that holds true 99 percent of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:52 AM
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what? men and women in nature life completely different lives and genetically have completely different behavior. behavior is a much dimorphic as the body, because its one and the same. women do not need dominance because they do nt compete on strength and are not as hierarchical as men. dont you think men who have to compete with other men on strength and leadership of the group necessary need more dominance than women who mostly live protected and cooperating with each other more? also in all …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:50 AM
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no. I dont need some study to get that people who purposely put provocative motives on certain body parts intend to be more stimulating to random people. That basic common sense. I also dont need someone to tell me that the choice of certain motives like ruff non feminine stuff translates to a non feminine ruff nature. I dont need a study to tell me that people who have visible tattoos are not concerned with social perception in term of conforming to rules, and that this is indicative of rebelli…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:40 AM
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no, both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:34 AM
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yeah there is definitely a lot of truth to it. the pickyness sure as hell is a result of options, delusion and overstimulation. a millionaire can not appreciate a nice house or car because hes used to mansions and lambos, so he will find everything that is wrong with anything simply because hes uses to so much because the sensory input can not trigger the receptors like it would with a normal person who never has experienced any of it. also men who fuck a lot have a very similarly picky attitude…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:33 AM
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woman purposefully lie about their sexuality, and men dont, so ofcourse female sexuality is confusing. It ca not be not confusing when its impossible to get women to be truthful about it and there words do not match their actions, so it can easily be simple yet confusing at the same time, because women cause the confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:27 AM
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no, if anything he was affected by fame and wealth, that can fuck you up. but not sex. how can you even claim that, we are talking about someone who doesn’t lead a normal life at all with all kinds of possible psychological issues for completely different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:15 AM
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listen, this isnt rocket science. Its basic common sense and experience to know that people who try to alter their body in ways to purposefully get away from how people naturally look have identity issues, and its not difficult to get that the choice of certain motives is caused by certain character attributes that can be deduced easily. I dont need a study to tell me that people who choose provocative motives on sexual body parts have sexual intentions or that these people do what they want, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:11 AM
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you really are not countering my point at all. there is thought that goes into choosing tattoos. certain motives are tied to intentions. non feminine tattoos reveal a non feminine character. tattoos around sexual zones reveal sex conscious slutty intentions. tattoos covering your body to a point where the body purposefully doesnt look like a normal human is indicative of personality disorders, and definitely of rebelling against social norms and collective perception, which are bad traits for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:51 PM
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most likely the hormones were less favorable when you were still in your mothers womb for what ever reason, and therefore have a mating psychology that leads more towards female because you had less testosterone for the estrogen present. You cant change that, it is who you are. There should be just as many women with the opposite issue, so you should go for these. I dont want to be an ass but this generally is related to intersexual competition and dominance regarding male hierarchy, which heavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:32 PM
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Sure, but the majority are not. since I judge by the way they behave and not their tattoos, this isnt an issue, but it will coincide with bad behavior more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:26 PM
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I have taken trenbolone, it definitely does cause sexual aggression like crazy, but also causes emotional feelings of insecurity. It literally turned me into a robot only capable of thinking about chasing women, and made me obsessed with them and forced fake dominance and cockyness because you constantly feel threatened and humiliated by completely normal behavior. Often really attractive women would overload my senses to a point where I just couldnt think straight or concentrate and caused insa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:21 PM
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no, thats just what the media fed you. Sexual dimorphism is very real both physically and psychologically, and sex hormones during development actually do determine submissiveness and dominance. the Y chromosome men have had unique genes women do not have, its foolish to claim social constructionism when genders and sexual dimorphism is the whole point of animals being gendered in the first place. genders are roles and are based on polarity and the difference is genetic, and genes determine your…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:14 PM
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It does during development in the womb. if the sex hormones are out of balance at that stage it causes certain sexually dimorphic brain changes regarding sexuality, specifically dominance and submission regarding sexuality. If course you cant affect this after development, but testosterone will raise the expression of what is there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:10 PM
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they definitely determine the base sexual psychology of the brain. sexual aggression is caused by a ratio of estrogen to testosterone being in favor of testosterone during pregnancy, and can cause men and women to have opposite sex behavior. You cant just give a man testosterone accutely to increase aggression directly, but the man will be more sexually active and more sexually agressive if stimulated, but if he is dominant is predetermined by the influence of these hormones shaping the brain in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:06 PM
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simple logic. stable=boring=predictible, non spontaneous, non adventurous. women are attracted to non predictability, being spontaneous and most importantly having a non boring, emotional and socially engaging life style which is the antithesis to being stable because it requires consistent boring commitment and effort every day and necessarily heavily restricts emotional and social engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:58 PM
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yes, but you got it backwards. men with high n counts are men who are attractive but chase short terms gratification and cheat because they dont want anything other than sex anyway. the sex and cheating is the result of a base character that can not be changed, it isnt the cause and doesnt affect behavior because sex isnt vulnerable and damaging to men because they dont bond over sex and do not submit to get physically penetrated by a much stronger person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:49 PM
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no. men who do this mostly are not the greatest people and have personality defects, but they are not caused by sexual activity, they just want short term gratification and sex and thats why they also have defective personalities. but the cause is reversed. casual sex is the result not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:45 PM
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yes. people who alter their body in ways that purposefully deviate from the way humans normally look have identity issues. Ive never met any heavily tattooed person who wasnt clearly wild, rebellious and non traditional, non conforming and not reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:43 PM
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lol there is a big difference between just having a small tattoo with a non rebellious design compared to being tattooed all over the place and having slutty or non feminine designs. I actually love tattoos aesthetically on women, the thing is the personality required for women to get a certain degree of tattoos is just not a good bet for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:21 PM
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Good luck finding your stepford wifey. Tattoos have nothing to do with any of the things you said. yes they clearly do I know plenty of great moms that are faithful wives and have some tattoos. yeah, some small, not provocative, not slutty tattoos. I personally like these tattoos on women aesthetically, but the personality required for getting them is equivalent to impulsive hoe. You maybe right that these women won't just bend over and be their husband's doormat. thats what makes them bad mothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:18 PM
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bs, the personalities needed are completely opposites. attractive personality has elements that are inherently unstable and immature
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:10 PM
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lol nobody arguing in good faith can deny this. tattoos say alot about character. and women with lots of tattoos try to express something, usually trauma, confusion or generally having identity issues. all this coincides with partying, seeking casual sex for validation etc. a woman with tattoos is not a traditional submissive housewife and mother. you can’t seriously claim this. these women are wild party people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:37 PM
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excessive tattoos especially visible ones and certain styles are related to impulsiveness, rebelliousness and generally non submissive, partying and mental issues. of course this is heavily related to body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:15 PM
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yes, but the issue is women perceive directness and truthfulness as rude and "judgemental". Sure its easy, but the difficult part is getting the woman to understand without her getting defensive at any criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:02 PM
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the problem here is socially acceptable things can easily be very dangerous, and people get offended and feel disrespected by the truth. going against socially acceptable norms if necessary to do whats the right thing to do is virtually, anything else if hive mind
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:56 PM
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lol, the difference is that only few men today can be like that, but due to simping culture most women can and are this shitty, which collapses your point completely. thats why these men are defending themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:53 PM
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lol thats not what I said. I said women dont care about bei g treated like humans, which is proven by the sexually successful men being exactly the opposite. at no point did I say you have to do this, I said this behavior has elements that are attractive to women despite them denying it. If you treat men the same, obviously it will not work so you are wrong. men do not care about the traits that make these men successful in women so this behavior works for men to women but not the reverse. sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:31 PM
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because women are responsible for most of the degeneration because they are willingly performing the degenerate actions. this dating market is the result of women getting what they said they wanted. also I dont care about casual sex, unless a guy is rich or is supremely attractive there is no point for a man to seek this and it is degenerate and should be shamed anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:21 PM
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well most women want demand this or complain about it not being done to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:14 PM
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you said you dont want rude and judgemental, thats female language for truthful and backbone to women, rude equals direct and honest. any truthful criticism to women is labeled rude, mean, judgement etc. because women cant take being told to have to be better because all they know is ass kissing and decades of telling them no matter how they treat other people or what outcomes their actions produce, people shouldn’t hold them accountable for shortcomings which is bs. non judgmental to women mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:50 AM
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its self inflicted though. if women werent so entitled and would be deluded with so many options they do not really have, they would care to focus on necessary aspects of mates to be mates instead of just relying on men to trigger impulses enough that likely are more difficult to trigger because of all the downregularion that happens in women by having so much male attention. mate choice is supposed to be intentional and logical, but for women is purely impulse. there is just no level of conscio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:47 AM
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women don’t consider mens feelings though, and women manipulate men with their expression of feelings. Actually all the men I know who fuck another woman every weak all are emotionless towards women and might say simping stuff but act indifferent to their complaints and do not fear rejection precisely because they view women als something to just put their dick in, so there is no rejection on a personal level felt, just the loss of an opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:42 AM
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some degree of choking, hair pulling and aggressive behavior is absolutely the default for what women want done to them. whenever they complain about sex, they all complain about lack of agression. Women need that male aggressive sexual desire to subconsciously know they are actually desired, thats why it it validation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:37 AM
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so you want a beta push over who cant tell you the truth because you cant handle criticism for potential bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:28 AM
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"WhO hUrT YoU"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:25 AM
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Dangerous, disagreeable, rebellious, outspoken against authority and the “system”. these are actually the most virtuous traits anybody could have. the capacity for violence and non submission against wrong is the definition of how every man should be. A good guy is the opposite. He follows the rules and is respectful to others. following rules != respectful also the right action is more important than not offending someone’s feelings. thats the danger that is destroying our society. Its not disr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:16 PM
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They are attracted to the qualities these men also have. women generally look for strength, and the way women perceive strength is by masculine dominant behaviors, especially confidence and ability to have boundaries, offend and break rules if necessary or pushed. now these are generally positive traits regardless of what people say, and men should be that. the thing is the few men who haven’t had that behavior beaten out of them by a society that trains males to be submissive doormats are mostl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:10 PM
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honestly to most men it is just any man with any emotional strength, meaning willing to offend, rebel against authority or norms and break rules if necessary. Despite this being perceived as bad, which is the real problem in today’s society, its actually just masculinity and how men should be. no wonder its attractive to women. Of course there is degrees to this, and these men can have toxic traits, but have not for the most part. many men have an issue with this because they were told to be suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:59 PM
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thats bs, after all why would I put myself in an unnecessarily bad position to save someone else? nobody is doing that for me. why adopt a pet when I can buy one that is perfect and can be groomed to me? yeah its sad to have so many pets in shelters and so many children without parents suffering, but I am not to save the world at my expense. I only have one live, and technically it is better to abandon the children who are fucked up for the entire society. if only the physically and mentally hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:36 AM
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you forget that this situation is done on purpose, meaning that a child is born in a severely damaging position just for selfishness of the mother. This should be prohibited. you can’t compare this to an accidental pregnancy because this suffering was planned and inflicted on purpose for the feelings it provided for that women. that’s completely different and there is no measuring this up to worse positions because its on purpose and not by accident
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:30 AM
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being a single mother by choice is child abuse and should be prohibited by law. These women want children for selfish reasons, for them at the expense of the child. children need fathers and will inevitably suffer and have mostly unsuccessful lives because of all the mental issues it causes. If I meet a woman who admitted to this, I would punch her in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:27 AM
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thats some bs. the conscious choice of liking certain features has nothing to do with perceived beauty. you can talk someone into wanting something, but you cant talk someone into being sexually attracted so someone, because it simply is a primal instinct that comes from millions of years of evolution and is determined by genes. the biological part requires certain input variables to develop healthily, and thats why it can be corrupted. you can make a duck sexually chase boots for life, but this…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:24 AM
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cut off people who don’t display the right behavior. know what behaviors to look for and know the sexual imperatives of men and women and judge behavior accordingly. You could simplify it by saying women do not date men significantly above you because they will use you, the issue is that women typically overvalue themselves. If you never had a similar man in a relationship where he didnt show consistent non sexual attention, thats to high. for men its just never get married under any circumstanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:21 AM
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I dont need to wish for it, its a biological reality. The sexual power females have depends on youthfulness. Men the same age simp for women their age in their teens and 20s, but stop doing so approaching 30 and and simp for the younger women, because the women their age biologically do not cause the kind of raw lust young women cause in men regardless of their age. In case you havent noticed, older men do not simp for women their age, they just become less affected because they dont see their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:11 AM
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not its not. the point was "if people didnt like you in your 20s I dont like you" regardless of the reason or the current attributes or attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:03 AM
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this is completely off. there is no influence and propaganda doesn’t change sensory perception. attractiveness is not something you can talk someone into. what people are attracted to has nothing to do with media or globalization. Media is payed to have interracial propaganda, but that doesnt work. media might push fat or skinny women but that wont change what men perceive as attractive because that’s mostly biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:55 AM
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No, chads dont know the difference between confidence and not confidence because their default is confident because they always succeeded with women. If you have to force confidence, you are not confident, and you can not have the experience of a chad and therefore you cant be chad, because being chad relies more on the behavior that comes from experiences of being successful with women than attractive attributes alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:47 AM
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this is such a nonsensical post. getting sex for men and women can not be compared for biological reasons. getting a relationship with your characteristics will be just as hard as getting sex for the average man, in your case possibly harder. And no, man do not need to be handsome, fit, smart and what ever to have sex with you or anyone else. I bet none of the guys who ever fucked you had these characteristics. also you are nasty af so asking for kindness is ridiculous given that dealing with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:38 AM
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no? people liked fatter women when people were poorer due to it indicating health, no, it doesnt indicate health. obesity is unhealthy biologically thats why it is repulsive. people might have a fetish for it but heath markers are objectively and universal and are evolutionarily speaking around since forever. our genes did not change in the last 100.000 years, and mating instincts are the same, way before any culture. in case you havent noticed, we are build for a live in small groups in nature,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:26 PM
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I have read enough. there is nothing more shallow than valuing people entirely for how much other people like them. Like that isnt even a property of someone, so it outclasses any shallowness related to possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:01 PM
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no they didn’t. the body changes with culture and time temporarily , but the mates still get picked with the same algorithm. if everyone is fat because food is abundant people will choose someone who is fat for other attributes left to like, but that doesnt mean they liked them being fat. If everyone is poor, everyone suffers but people still get together out of necessity, even though these people might be filthy and dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:57 PM
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thats the most shallow stuff I have ever read
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:19 PM
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yes, because they become proportionally more attractive despite being objectively less attractive because womens sexual attractiveness declines so fast because they had a default advantage because of female youth being so stimulatory for male sex drive that now went away, causing them to be eventually less attractive than same age men despite aging at the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:16 PM
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everything you say is logically completely off. again: men being promiscuous is not the same behavior as women being promiscuous, because the cause for both is women and only women prevent relationships by being promiscuous. men do not become more undesirable with every body they have on them. only women do. If you punch me and I punch you back, you are at fault. Im not at fault for punching you if you attacked me. If you never attacked me, I would not need to defend myself. Me punching or not p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:08 PM
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Actually men do have sex for money. I could hire a male prostitute tonight if I so wanted too. lol this is another deflection. there are very few women who hire male prostitutes, and there are no non professional men who pretend to like a woman and have sex with her to get non sexual attention. like wtf is this nonsense point? we are talking about reasons why people fuck each other, not professional prostitution, and you know damn well that 1 woman hiring a prostitute for every 10000000st guy hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:05 PM
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Are you implying you were joking or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:46 PM
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they are fully responsible. at the same time, they have no other options because these women typically are better looking than their partners and these men are conditioned to be doormats, so thats why they are blind. they are brainwashed to not perceive women as potentially evil, and find any excuse because they are lonely and ca not do better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:34 PM
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you claimed to be ridiculously good looking and tall. someone like that can not be not confident because a person like that has better experiences than any other man. if confidence isnt the default since forever, you cant be ridiculously good looking that doesnt work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:21 PM
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You said you consciously have to be confident and since implementing that you became more successful. that implies that you are insecure, because if you are confident there is no conscious though about being more confident because you can’t perceive confidence because you would not know anything else and it would be the default state, and there would be no possible improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:14 PM
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Idk what so difficult for you to understand. women choose to be promiscuous and therefore become unfit for relationships and therefore prevent these men from having relationships because they are so numerous. Men being promiscuous doesnt make them unfit for relationships, it rather makes them fitter in any way. Women get damaged by promiscuity and prevent themselves from being relationships by being promiscuous. womens job is to not be promiscuous because only they get punished by nature for it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:13 PM
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then dont claim to be "ridiculously handsome" and that you can pick up pretty women with something as bad as a cold approach and lacking confidence in the same breath. that doesnt fit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:09 PM
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Funny how you try to turn this around on me. I didnt say its impossible, I said you are not the man who can do it because your self described behavior does not fit that. There is no way you can have low confidence when you claim to have attributes that are that amazing.the attractive people who dont know they are attractive actually do know they are attractive, they just do not need the validation because they have no ego. low confidence is a consequence of lived experience of some form, so you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:49 PM
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you need to grow up actually. men can not be hoes because men can not have sex for other reasons than sex. they dont have sex for money, attention or what ever. they just have sex for fun. the definition of a hoe is a women who is a prostitute, and a prostitute is someone who sells the body to people they dont want to have sex with, so any reason other than accutely wanting sex and reproduction is the definition of prostitution. only women put out for non sexual benefits like social privileges, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:37 PM
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It actually does, she is very likely a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:19 PM
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if you are self conscious about your confidence and need to force yourself to feel confident, you actually are insecure and can not have good results. You might have gotten better results, but I do not believe you ever picked up a hot girl from cold approaching, because the kind of person that could do that doesnt think about confidence or approaching on purpose and isnt in a dating subreddit, nor has this kind of man ever had issues with women or self esteem like you. your just a non self aware…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:16 PM
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It is a choice as sex isn’t an essential need yes it is, people get mental issues from not having sex so it is an essential need to be heathy. saying that isnt a need is like saying you dont need space and warm food nor freedom to survive, so if I keep you in a cage that you barely fit in, never let you out and feed you with bread and water, thats not violating essential needs since you survive, right? please and even if you consider such there’s other ways to get it besides being promiscuous an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:35 PM
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there are no cultural factors in sexual attraction at all. sexual attraction is mainly biological and has a developmental component on top of it which together which accounts for the differences. the core characteristics are genetically predetermined, but in form of a blueprint that needs certain influences to mature. if noticed that homosexuals can be either born that way through hormonal imbalances in the womb shaping sexual attraction patterns, or because they had certain experiences that mer…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:08 AM
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because its all about the government extracting male resources through the woman or child as a medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:57 AM
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yes, they do, its just that you can not change them so it doesn’t make sense to talk about them. they need to be excluded because there is no point talking about it. everyone knows that genetics puts a cap on outcome from self improvement. there is a point where nothing will make a difference, but that’s irrelevant because these people know there place. Its about the people who can make a huge difference in their lives, these are the people who are average or slightly above, and generally the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:56 AM
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no, this is deflective bs, its not a choice when you have to decide between not getting essential needs met vs getting some of them met. men suffer mentally from not fucking, so saying they choose to fuck them is bs. women though are not forced to be promiscuous, they have no needs not being met and instead just try to flex their sexual power and try to maximize the usage of people because there are no consequences immeadiately until they hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:52 AM
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yes, because no matter what the TV says promiscuity has a different biological value based on how our bodies evolved to be and how male female behavior evolved to be. no amount of 2022 and the woke cult indoctrinating young defenseless people will change our biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:48 AM
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you are omitting that women are promiscuous by choice, these men are not using them by choice because they dont want women to be promiscuous al all, and they dont want to spin plates, at least the majority of men. it just that they have to because all these promiscuous women are lost anyway and they either have nothing and get used or just take what they can until women change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:17 AM
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the elephant in the room is that women made themselves promiscuous by choice, men have nothing to do with their decision to be hoes. I dont make you promiscuous, you already were promiscuous so I cant take you seriously, but can use you because there is nothing left to save in you. Its a response to how women conduct themselves in modern dating. these women chose to be hoes, so men can not change that, can not commit to them because it would be suicide and cant ignore them because they dont have…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:10 AM
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yeah, but the issue is they are not at fault in mass, the women, social media, feminism and the government/media brainwashing them is the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:33 AM
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wanting women to act like females to have normal working families is not an insult, you ate trying to manipulate. doesnt work, you are messed up in your head and have gender identity issues. either females submit to males or humanity goes extinct. you can not fight the laws of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:31 AM
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wtf the same standard is men are men and masculine, women female and feminine with all the attributes assigned to that. you are talking crap. we are different genders, different biological organisms meant for different roles and have bodies specialized for this. wtf is wrong with you its like you just believe what ever shit the tv says no matter how insane
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:29 AM
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First of all, I am a virgin, so I do fit into your creepy expectations. you dont. you do not accept submission but are ready to submit to the government, the media, the public fake opinion, the opinions of other people anyone but the only person women should submit to. your just a confused victim of media narratives and bullshit meant to set people up for failure. I am shaming you for wanting your partner to be submissive. so your shaming me for being male and mentally healthy That’s a sign of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:24 AM
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no you are defending dysfunction, destruction and irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:13 AM
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personal attack equals weakness and hurt feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:13 AM
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do you not get that most people are neither chads nor overweight incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:11 AM
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we are going backwards culturally and socially at a rapid pace. Yeah this thread is stupid but that doesnt change anything. look how bad mental health is collectively despite more resources than ever. Also in its original form religious celibacy meant not climaxing, not not having sex. Also incels are a problem that is caused by modern society being non social, no communities no families and many people never learning to socialize and the modern food being so poor in nutrients that it causes hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:18 PM
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same with people not adhering to certain rules and principles, only that it kills indirectly and far more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:52 PM
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does that apply to serial killers too? should we just get out of their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:28 PM
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women are too emotionally impulsive to decide over other human lives and themselves. look what a mess the western world is because they have to much choice. female choice equals genocide.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:24 PM
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the deterioration of the gender roles has a cascading effect that will cause anyone to be mentally troubled by default, make us all vulnerable to media manipulation in a way that it will possibly end in so much misery und poverty by people being to troubled to be productive citizens and mates, and it could very well end in a marxist revolution or civil war and have 100 millions killed like in russia and china and have communism and dictatorship on steroids afterwards. these revolutions were perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:57 PM
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not in the west. look at birth rates, normal families are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:26 PM
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controlling is not necessarily abusive. are parents who control the live of their kids inherently abusive? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:12 PM
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no, it’s terrifying to live on a planet where women do refuse their needed and by nature assigning task and try to shame men for pointing out preferences that are desperately needed to keep humanity from not going extinct just because the TV said to that your achievements matter and not what we evolved for. thats just sad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:11 PM
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yes but that is the symptom of a failing society, and precisely because women have all these options most of them will be alone eventually. you have to keep in mind that humanity is not just women, and for society to be the best possible for everyone in the long term we need balance because ultimately the quality of the next generation depend on it. unless you are a selfish sociopathic narcissist, you are selling youself short by abusing the situation to much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:08 PM
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no, this has nothing to do with the pills. It goes beyond it. Im as individualist as you reasonably be. Its just that we can not allow something that is that harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:04 PM
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you are a woman are t you? the answer is because men are wired to spread their seed and seek lots of different sexual partners if they can to just have a quick fuck and do not care about anything other than looking good enough to not be repulsive and than the urge to have sex is immediately there. it varies from man to man, men in general fuck anything they deem fuckable and where that threshold is varies greatly. why would you wait to fuck someone better when shes good enough and you want it no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:08 PM
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yes, because its true, and if it isnt, I can still do what she proposed. Its just that the willingness to do what I say and trust me with that needs to be there. It doesn’t mean she cant propose something better. I means I need to be the judge of that for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:49 PM
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No, you are trying really hard to shame and insult me. your like a child kicking and screaming when you tell them they have been bad and take their toy away. that doesnt work. nothing in this world will get me or any non spineless man to commit to a sinking ship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:46 PM
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no, your response is cringe. we should stick to urges if they logically are valid to filter out bad investments. women use sex to manipulate men because they are after social proof, attention, validation, social status through men, and help or resources. sure they want sex, but are not as horny as men and say themselves they are not impulsively sexually attracted to strangers because of looking at them like men. womens sexuality doesnt work that way like women themselves often say, and that mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:35 PM
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no, you are just shaming. wanting a follower is not any more creepy than women wanting a leader who takes care of them. dont pull that pedos shaming shit on me, women want the reverse but shame when they are not fit for it. being naive and submissive is great because she will do the right things because I know what these are and have good intentions for both. Anything else can not work because women are not prepared to make wise decisions for themselves, let alone other people given that they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:29 PM
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stop trying to pull that bs on me. I dont care about control nor ego boost, I want a person who is able to function normally in a family, and that requires submission. Its not about me. A family can not work otherwise. If someone does not do what I say, nothing can work because I know better in almost any case and someone has to decide, and that has to be the man, and I am naturally competent to do exactly that. any decision the woman would make will be worse than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:35 PM
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I am looking for what I need to have cooperation. If nobody wants to, ill be alone.Sad, but better than spending lots of time and money on someone who wastes it all by being non cooperative. either someone functions or does not. I wont bet on someone I know is guaranteed to be a bad investment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:32 PM
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I think thats completely bullshit, women need men more than men need them, the thing is women are never truly alone, and can have men providing male experience without the woman putting out because they are simping spineless loosers. If women and men would be completely isolated from each other, women would be way more troubled. Its just that women today all have male friends, male support systems and so on where they can get boyfriend benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:30 PM
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please believe me thats bullshit. that may be true for a sizable portion of men, but anyone who you would want will have standards. Its rare for women to not be physically repulsive, because most people are ugly. I seriously can not understand why many men are so non selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:24 PM
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You really cannot on the one hand be like “we should normalize!” and on the other “nature made us to value - nothing will change it!” I dont want to, it was just an analogy to make you aware of the stupidity of this. We can choose to value people based on other criteria than beauty if we decide to. we do not decide what we value. There is nothing stopping us but our preconceived ideas. no, value is universal, some people are just confused. also you wanted to force people to not value something. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:19 PM
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you are trying to manipulate this into something its not. do not try to shame for wanting mentally healthy women who are worth a damn. yes , this is universal because what works biologically is already objectively know since forever. abandoning that is dumb, I recognize that but many people do not. yes I need to force certain things on people because not doing so is reality denial or letting them destroy themselves and by extension me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:15 PM
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you do what you want. at the end of the day women do not have all the options they think they have because its an illusion, and many will be so picky that they will ultimately be alone. you dont seem to think that you can not just be indefinitely pickier for having trauma. You might be able to stretch it slightly, but since you have left multiple relationships, being alone because you willingly left all of them is the same as you not getting one at all. If this works out fine. but I have trouble…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:12 PM
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And I think you should get real. men love puppies for a reason. women should have the same enthusiastic and submissive energy like puppies but be able to listen, and care. Thats what we value. not that bs you were brainwashed to force onto us. find a looser who accepts that bs, because I know what is valuable and nobody is gonna shame or trick my into buying something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:05 PM
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no this positions are masculine so they would matter, but in a negative way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:02 PM
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people have the obligation to not be counter productive to the collective and to own up to their mistakes. and accept the truth, thats mainly where it goes wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:58 PM
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I really dont care about this. If this was the case, I dont mind and would easily accept it. I actually would prefer it to be the way I argue against because it would be easier and better. but the other way makes more sense to me so Im gonna go with that, but I have no problem changing my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:57 PM
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it would be off putting because a ceo can not be a loving nurturing enthusiastic submissive mother. you just can not have these while being a ceo nothing is as off putting as a woman raising her voice and commanding someone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:50 PM
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this would be fine if it wasnt for women being way more weird and awkward themselfs. the issue here is that most women have the exact same issues, but men just deal without because they dont have hundreds of women available that pretend to want to fuck them. Women do though. It’s annoying to hear women say they dont want men to be like that while being way weirder and more fucked up themselves, and then always cry for empathy even though for women its mostly self inflicted. I bet there are thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:43 PM
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people could also take responsibility for their actions instead of leave me alone I do what I want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:38 PM
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Sure, women are biologically built to be mothers. What makes a good mother tho? I know it’s not just a pretty face. The challenge of raising a kid requires a woman to be emotionally stable and mature, mentally strong and to have a sense of responsibility. How do you know a woman has these traits? Well, did she finish school? Does she have a stable pattern of employment or has she been fired at every place she’s worked? Does she have any life skills? Can she cook, can she take care of bills, can …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:34 PM
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this wont work. after all studies are just hints and just claims. you have no way to know for sure if you dont do it yourself. that being said the sample size is still ridiculously small. and there is no methodology. Its extremely vague and just said they were shown men interacting with women and they looked for response to more aggressive flirting. it doesnt say what the men looked like, and doesnt say how it was measured at all. there were no man equally symmetrical and so on with varying degr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:01 PM
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show you what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:49 PM
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this seems like bs. There isnt really explained how what they did proved that it wasnt true. no informations about how they even measured the womens responses. they probably just asked them, and had a sample size of 150. you expect me to believe this without any explanation how they measured the female responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:48 PM
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i’ve dated A LOT because i’m willing to give anyone a chance at at least one date as long as they’re not disgustingly hard to look at. i don’t consider my standards too high but i’ve found that the majority of the men with little to no experience turned me off pretty quickly. they were awkward, offensive, or just strange. they are that way because of the way women act and how their masculinity is beating out of them buy the education system and their mothers though. it was pretty clear to me why…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:43 PM
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no, and thats exactly the issue. people can and need to be generalized and some things are just universal. You are advocating for bo accountability. the problem is you want people to not get judged for negative implications of what they want. that cant work and is extremely dangerous. you cant let people do what they want to when it is harming the collective significantly. you not wanting to get judged for bodycount is like a man not wanting to be judged on ability to lead. its stupid to try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:27 PM
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she does but the reason is she is noticeably younger. if the pictures were done in the same year, she would look better with make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:21 PM
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we should punish men for being feminine because thats dangerous and anti masculinity. men need to be judged by achievement primarily, otherwise there will be no achievements anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:18 PM
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thats possibly the worst thing someone could say. thats like saying we should normalize being dumb and broke. you dont get to determine what nature made us to value. nothing will change it. womens achievements are worthless to men, because women are not made for that. women are made to be mothers and look good and bond communities society, not do that mans work. you can not escape your natural place. its just as stupid as men trying to normalize being valued for female attribued. try marketing b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:16 PM
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many men say they dont want that, but there isnt just a clown face and no make up. all women wearing make up the right way will benefit from it. men only dislike it when it is overdone and looks weird, or because they hate the character that comes tied to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:10 PM
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depends. the women benefitting the most are the ones with good bone structure but horrible skin especially around the eyes and cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:07 PM
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I think you underestimate what make up can do. the clear perfect skin alone is a game changer, and is anything that truely enhance male sexual triggers. of course it wont do much if your features are just bad or if it is done the wrong way. that being sad attractive women look pretty without make up, but still look even better with it. the thing is that average women with fascial flaws especially skin and undereye deficiencies will mask huge attractiveness killers and therefore get a treatment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:06 PM
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yes but its related. they compete on looks because thats what they perceive as powerful because female power is getting men to do stuff for them. its the same as men competing on money and flexing wealth on each other. they so it because it inherently shows what other men perceive as valuable and of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:01 PM
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no, thats false. What happens is that people who struggle and have it hard are forced to be analytical and therefore get to realize what makes sense. the less conservative people are the easier their life is because they are open to concepts that sound nice without trying to understand or are benefiting from it in some way, like social proof or getting supposedly free money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:45 PM
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I would agree with that, but I wouldnt wait for to long. One year seems reasonable after the first child, I think if you want like four I would keep the combined time as infants as short as possible after you know how much stress you can or can not deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:38 PM
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well the typical topics. judgement of body count, age, describing how women operate and what they respond to, being in favor of gender roles the only thing that would be hateful would be claiming that all women are malicious by default, but nobody is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:32 PM
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the men who complain about women here and their lack of sex, aren’t getting girlfriends and sex for a reason. yes, but the reason are the womens entitlement and brainwashing for most men. Its not their fault women today are how they are. the men that i know with healthy relationships are not so bitter and don’t think as negatively about women. that doesnt mean the people here are not right. many men who have success with women never realize the problem and even are victims of it, but they dont s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:23 PM
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you are right in theory, the problem is that your perception of what falls under each category is completely warped. Look at KS. many women hated him and perceived him as malicious for being truthful because women can not be objective when it comes to their feelings getting involved. In PPD there has never been an ounce of actual hate against women, nor is anything related to red pill, yet women perceive it as if it was because holding them accountable is malicious to them just like the infant p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:12 PM
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the issue is you have a very wrong picture of this. I can not be limiting myself when there is no scenario in which I reject someone over a number who would have been a great mate. I wont ever ask someone "how many people have fucked you?" and then leave when an arbitrary number was exceeded. I know without asking by the way they talk and respond to completely unrelated questions and situations and they will never know I had any idea because the number it self is not the problem, it what comes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:40 AM
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I dont care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:26 AM
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doesnt matter. I demand reason. If the woman doesn’t understand that n counts have to be judged differently, I cant deal with her because she is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:12 AM
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so its a red flag to not be oblivious to how the world and especially women work? Its not mens problem for telling women who they are and they not liking who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:10 AM
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Depends what he’s posting. If he’s AWALTing etc. then not interested. If he’s making measured responses to the insanity on here, then that’s fine. thats a logical contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:08 AM
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because the government and women are mad they can no longer suck these men dry, and because it inherently shows them the mirror and they become aware of their own faults and blame for the problem. these men have to be attracted and shamed because otherwise it would clearly show who is the problem and they can not handle that the world isnt just a female serving disney fantasy with everything centered around them. they want men to play the game to access their resources and keep them self destruc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:03 AM
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wtf are you talking about? women dont get to decide. I wont be in a relationship with a women I perceive to be a bad investment period. if a woman is not able to logically understand why it is judged and why it is important and not a double standard, there is no point in dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:58 AM
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no, the problem is that you do not attack the problems and instead try to mask them. And there are immutable features that will determine a cap on what you can get. The problem rather is that people are afraid to really commit and suffer to hopefully have a benefit. You cant complain if you haven’t exhausted every option. Have you done everything you can to socialize correctly and have the correct attitudes, behaviors and social manners you need? have you put yourself in any environment that can…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:47 AM
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It cant be disproven when simultaneously they are naturally more attracted to more masculine guys during ovulation when this is governed by systematic rise and fall of progesterone and estrogen. Since birth control puts woman constantly in the place where they are less horny, less attracted to hyper masculine features there needs to be an important because hormones do not rise and fall like they are supposed to so attraction is necessarily different than it is naturally supposed. how impactful w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:35 AM
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as if men here were all these ugly fat incels. Im already fit and lean and while it helps it doesnt overcome the societal issue with women, feminism, media and society brainwashing and worshiping them for existing and masses of backboneless simps, OLD and social media making them delusional and entitled, arrogant hoes who are just nasty selfish narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:11 AM
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Thats not empirical evidence, its adhering to authority claims and these texts are misleading because they dont say what you think they say and are just claims with bs metrics that mask the truth to fit an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:07 AM
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Thats not empirical evidence, its adhering to authority claims and these texts are misleading because they dont say what you think they say and are just claims with bs metrics that mask the truth to fit an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:07 AM
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all the people who want these laws, friends family strangers doesnt matter. the only reasons they dare setting the laws up like that is because they can control public opinion enough to have enough every day people accepting it. to actually make a difference though you need to use force and have the vast majority against the laws ready to be violent against the state in mass. otherwise they just do what they want to because people will jut accept it because they treat government as all powerful …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:00 AM
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because we need to also be sexually attracted to her body and face and we also need them to want to be in the life we want to have. what do I do with a girl who is hot, is trustworthy and smart but wants to have a career instead of being a housewife? or doesnt want the life I want ? or doesnt want traditional gender roles and male leadership? same with a women who is all that but physically does not cause me to want to touch her. I cant love someone who does t trigger physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:57 AM
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its a natural instinct because n count is predictive of bad behavior in women like manipulation through sex, sex for validation and resources aka prostitution, etc and no pair bonding ability because there is no way to get a high number otherwise because women biologically are not build to spread their seed like men are. they just want to fuck and have nothing they possibly want to extract out of you besides sex because thats the goal. men dont fuck ugly women for attention validation, money or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:35 AM
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because based on biology women have different motivations for sex than men. women having lots of bodies translated to lying and manipulating for attention and validation or extracting resources, and broken pair bond because women naturally bond through sex. men just have one motivation for sex, enjoying sex and for men sex can be without feelings because they are wired that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:26 AM
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Probably because that would be creepy. Sane people don’t advertise themselves based on their n count. no, because you instinctively know that slutty behavior gets punished by men. all girls know that thats why they lie about their n count and pretend to be more reserved than they are in front of guys they like. If your relationship is going good and you are attracted to each other, someone’s past relationships shouldn’t matter. it does because it is predictive of behavior. Why would the same not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:20 AM
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yes it is. n count is predictive of negative behavior and motivations in women, thats why it matters and why it cant be hidden. your actual number doesn’t matter. either she has too many or not, and we know that by the way she behaves. if too many are 3, 10 or 100 is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:14 AM
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you are confused. people need to be judged differently because of different biology and different implications and motivations for actions that appear to be the same but are not. you having a high n count is different because you are not a man and have different imperatives so it has other motivations and needs to be judged. you cant say male and female body count is the same. It really is something completely different biologically. most men are doormats, women are entitled beyond hope. this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:12 AM
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so why not actively go against the people who are promoting the landscape that leads to this i stead of fighting symptoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:48 PM
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Having two six figure salaries and spending time with loved ones isn’t mutually exclusive. yes it is. if the woman is working she is not spending time with children, is emotionally drained and not available for me because the spend it all on her job, and I need to so work after work. Why stress so much over money that isnt needed for anything important? Id rather have well raised mentally healthy children, come home to a clean home and food, and have her emotionally available for me as well as b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:40 PM
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no. not getting pregnant is kinder, and better would be to want them instead of participating in sinking the ship. this is not going to end well for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:17 PM
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that might be the case, but we already had abortion rights in communist countries. guess what everyone had like 10 abortions on average. also what you dont know is they are selling the dead embryos to make stemm cell anti aging drugs. abortion clinics make huge profits from abortion. Just because there are cases where it’s justified doesnt mean it isn’t dangerous to just allow with no conditions. think about people killing somebody out of self defense. the idea is great, but if there is to littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:54 PM
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no, it allows for more money to spend on stupid stuff. People enjoying time together and cooparating with each other is far more valuable than another 6 figure salary. for what? what ever you could do with it does not compare at all to what it inhibits. This may be great for selfish people without children and who do not care about community, but for nobody else. that money is essentially worthless. What are you going to buy with it that half of the money cant buy that is so important?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:47 PM
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good for you. its just difficult to find someone who is trustworthy and has a healthy ability to tell trustworthyness. there are as many non trustworthy people as there are people who have been hurt and have trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:06 PM
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yes it was a typo it meant can. I meant that there are times where people have different options about things that affect both people or children, and there can be disagreement and someone has to have authority and the last word, and thats gotta be me because I likely know better and are meant to have that responsibility and are naturally better equipped to be that to everyones advantage. when people disagree and can not understand each other or simply remain with different opinions, a decision …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:58 PM
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how would it not be easier to just prevent pregnancy in the first place? If you wont to, you wont get pregnant. There are so many ways to prevent it and they can be combined. I dont know maybe back then these weren’t available, but today they are and nobody gets pregnant unless the woman wants to or is irresponsible. I would only support this in rare cases where there is extreme danger, psychological or physical. but not just because you were lazy. there needs to be a clear line.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:53 PM
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yes you have. go against both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:55 PM
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The thing is we cant do what we want. we still need to cooperate. we need to regulate people. you cant do what you want as long as it doesn’t negatively impact the family and the SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:50 PM
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So are the blue state people, only that they are supporting way more dangerous stuff. also pro choice is a euphemism for killing, and isnt any better than letting people die because of a failed pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:48 PM
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I dont really believe this, but even if it is like that, the issue is the same. we have zero control over the laws and hope they fit but are organized in away to go against us in a way we cant fully understand without trying to really hard. Just like any tax and climate change law is nothing but opression with a narrative as justification, so is all the other woke stuff. the issue is we dont make the laws, not do we actually decide who gets elected. elected gets who can be justified as being ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:35 PM
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what do you mean by minding their own business? this doesnt sound like cooperation, that sounds like selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:28 PM
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thats would be a valid exception because you gotta save the more important live and one has to die anyway, also this child can not ever be alive. either both die or only the fetus dies.thats not the issue. and thats not what they are rallying for, because that is legal right now. dont confuse this. they want the right to kill to not be responsible and not worry about protection, because anything else is allowed already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:21 PM
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what do you mean by that? the best thing to me is getting together once for lifetime as early as possible with the help of family to pick wisely. that way people waste no resources on finding mates for decades, prevent much of the consumerism and maximize productivity, while controling the flow of information, the flow of our money, and need half the houses to rent/buy when we are young, and do no waste time or money living as single people buying consumer stuff to find or impress mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:18 PM
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doesnt matter because the banking system and coorporations are the reason they have this power. they control all elections so voting is bs. Its just show because they control it anyway. You would need to abolish fiat money, make the banks state owned, same for big tech and pharma. the control of too much wealth will always give them enough power to get us eventually. also these people are literally the devil. they and their ancestors are responsible for any war, any genocide any mass killings th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 05:14 PM
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yes, but everything is connected. they are doing all cultural shifts and wars since forever for this reason. without feminist anti family propaganda there would be no gender problems, the the wealth distribution will only get worth because people keep supporting laws that target us under the disguise of targeting rich people and fake enviromentalism and planned crisis. income tax was introduced and marketed as tax for the rich, but the rich have their wealth in corporations so they are unaffecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:25 PM
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yes, in large groups despite being unnatural. human tribes can not grow beyond small sizes without it. look at native tribes.all monogamous everywhere on earth. despite being not natural its close enough to nature that it is favored by allowing bigger groups to live together cooparating peacefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:22 PM
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yes, there is a fine line we can not cross. we still psychologically and physically depend on influences that need to be exactly one way to keep humanity going on you can only fight that to an extent. monogamy is a success way to do it, since the natural way doesnt work beyond extended family size groups. Look at all the rising unhappiness and mental issues we have despite having it so much easier, because the essential things are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:19 PM
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for what? that wont give me shit when Im old
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 04:16 PM
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because you allow other people to demand more from you than you demand in return. Thats not fair and you seem to not mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:36 PM
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there are good reasons believe me. Im not a malicious person, but some issues can only be brought to attention by insults and shame unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:29 PM
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abortion is the right to kill so that you dont have to be responsible and accountable with sex. like how can someone want this when there are so many ways to prevent pregnancy? they have to be irresponsible and rather be that and kill than being responsible. this is terrifying tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:19 PM
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please put every benefit you provide actively and passively on paper, put a money value on it and do the same for the woman. Thats how you compare who has to do what to keep it fair. men most of the time do provide so much more it’s sickening to see men just not demand anything in return like they are worth nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:17 PM
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I dont have to Im not a native speaker
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:14 PM
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Its still doing better than anything else because nature allows no alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:14 PM
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whats more important having a family or maximum pleasure ? life is not just about instant gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:11 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:10 PM
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looser dont let yourself get used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:09 PM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:08 PM
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because everyone has to pull equal weight. If I pay and hire, it is onesided. what do I get done for me in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:07 PM
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no. if you pay for everything, the other person needs to do everything else. why would you allow someone to use you? anything else aint fair. technically all the house work is only worth basic provision money, anything more is worth way more, so all the housework is not enough, that person would need to do much more to be fair and not have access to all that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:06 PM
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lol this is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:10 PM
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you dont seem to get that this is about correlation not causation. the study did not say anything about the problem. better outcomes because of byproducts of technology do not counterbalance nothing, they mask the issue because they have better outcomes over one generation in terms of money. this doesnt say anything about the problem because you would need to keep all parameters fixed and just vary age. you cant just say well they were better off because they had more money, because that masks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 12:05 PM
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that contradicts the female claim of faking orgasm and claiming its rare for men to do it right. how about making sure that person learns how to do it instead of just looking for the few people who get it right the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:58 AM
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you had diff numbers when I calculated x5. also the absolut percentage is irrelevant. you dont get what these numbers mean. they mean that from 30 -35 the DNA has reached enough damage to increase the likelihood of conditions with a name x3. Imagine how much more damage that needs to be. this is not about having down syndrome. you can have no condition, but the damage is there is has visible impacts, it just wasnt enough at the right place to cause a specific condition known and medically names.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:56 AM
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seems like responsibility is depressing to you. the thing is only responsibility gives meaning. I think you naturally do not have the urge to need meaning to be sane and happy. Difficulty can make incredibly happy, because working towards something what causes lasting happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:51 AM
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I think people do not truely think about this until it happens and they make the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:48 AM
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Most professional couples split duties at home. thats the issue. why have both do both if roles are better with both patents doing less with a better outcome? the money isnt worth the drawback. WFH makes it easier for both husband and wife to have a career and have one of them take care of baby/small child. so what? still extremely suboptimal and just dumb. two careers are not cooperation, they are selfish individuals coexisting. If you don’t want the government to raise them, then don’t use the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:47 AM
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lol this is sad. divide the damn numbers given.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:09 AM
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the experts are not disagreeing, they are just saying something different that you misinterpret. you cant change DNA damage with age, if you could you could reverse aging but you cant, you can slow it down if you commit to a restrictive lifestyle from a young age. medically healthy has nothing to do with health, it just means healthy enough to exist without intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:52 AM
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because that woman can not offer anything I value. Children need a mother role at home, I need that and I need the woman working on my family with her motherly and social skills, not more money and all that missing. I dont like coming home to an exhausted woman who didnt spent time with children, dont want the government to raise them, and dont want to deal with that professional stoic masculine attitude and energy. we would both be working, nobody does the important stuff that women are to do, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:48 AM
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you do not address the insane percentage change in chance though that proves my point. from 30-35 the chance goes x5, imagine how much damage needs to accumulate to damage enough to have this condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:35 AM
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do what you like, you have to live with the consequences you likely never get to realize
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:32 AM
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so what? its still a bad choice but their lifes are their issue
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:31 AM
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No...not even remotely, and its concerning that you think that. no, there are things that are black and white enough to make one way of action the right one, and not doing so is extremely dangerous. lmao I love science, the truth isn't always pretty and and facts are facts. then why is science selective and becomes unscientific when it goes against the woke political narrative? much of what people believe to be science is made up bs with no science behind. Factually...morals are subjective. no, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:30 AM
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yes there is, look at down syndrome stats
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:42 AM
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no. we want matching skills but very different skills. there is no value in two surgeons because there is no cooperation and and no family because there are two fathers and no mother role.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:41 AM
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but these children still are retarded compared to the ones from younger parents. medically healthy is a useless metric. measure weight height and symmetry and intellect and you will see that Im right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:40 AM
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no they are not. just look at how people on older photos looked like and how they talked. far more mature, no retards, far smarter at a far younger age. today being retarded is the norm to a point where people do not notice that it’s abnormal. Most people have deformities they perceive as normal that people didnt have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:38 AM
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true, but I can value something until my last breath and continue putting all energy left into it know that even this time can have value because the effects are around when Im dead, so I get die a happy man instead of resenting not being able to do things ever again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:36 AM
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That cant be it for the entire life and multiple decades. it might be fun but is nothing more than that. the achievements dont last after death and you will get old enough to not do it and be depressed. traveling and hobbies for multiple decades sound depressing af. these are nice activities, but they are just entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:34 AM
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the prove is the statistics on likelyhood of genetic conditions getting more likely with the mothers age. How are you not getting that this proves what Im saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:31 AM
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So you agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:29 AM
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You have zero alternatives so you can not degrade something that has any value after death
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:29 AM
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Degeneration from what? Waiting a little later in one’s sexual maturity? lol women loose their virginity at 13 but have children a decade or more to late. Its degeneration from functioning healthy people and family life. Does capitalism have anything to do with it? Overwork? Poverty? no, the socialism that caused wages to be stagnant with rising economy and doubling the labor force as well as feminist propaganda encouraging women to not have families, delay families, kill their unborn children a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:28 AM
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no it doesnt. medically healthy doesnt say anything about development. If its good enough to no have an illness with a name then it is considered healthy. a better was would be to measure face symmetry and weight/height and complications by age of parents. you are going against nature, that cant work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:23 AM
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I dont believe that. Why would any man sell himself short like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:21 AM
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Its not the scientific consensus, its the consensus of the politically media. You cant meet your nutritional demands. please look up all the micronutrients and their daily requirements. do the math and you will find out that most of the necessity vitamins, minerals and so on are exclusively contained in animal products. you simply lack 80 percent of micronutrients completely, and wont get enough of the other ones. you are just getting calories and vitamin c and some fiber. you will have zero ani…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:20 AM
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no, its literally the truth you cant accept because it implies women lack accountability and are rightfully blamed and have to change
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:01 AM
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google average weight and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:00 AM
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how about quoting my logical explanation and proof instead of taking single phrases out of context and pretending thats what I called scientific method?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:58 AM
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No, they're literally most likely to marry people in the same profession. Some professions are less gender-balanced so there's not enough to be parity. For instance, there are way more waitresses than waiters. So while waiters most likely marry waitresses, waitresses marry cooks and waiters. you just proved my point. they do it because they meet each other at work, not because men care about the womans job. But doctors marry other doctors, lawyers marry other lawyers, chefs marry other chefs, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:57 AM
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I know you dont. please get familiar with the scientific method. hint: its not claims from authorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 08:07 AM
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Ah so a woman’s earnings are irrelevant to you. That’s fair, but a woman’s education and earnings are a major factor in marriage. education yes career no, its just that similar careers make for people being confronted with each other more. Most marriages today are assortive. Well educated high income people marry other high income well educated people. they marry people with similar social class which correlates with education, but not career. Most male doctors dont marry female doctors, they ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:14 PM
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yes, but Im still right regardless of what you believe. If my explanation want convincing thats not my problem, I dont have resources to do statistics myself so asking for this is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:03 PM
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they will, improving on what I build for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:47 PM
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the processes are egg cells getting created once, development being governed by DNA, DNA getting damaged with age. my statement logically follows from this. And the data we can use is an extrapolation, not a direct statistic, we can extrapolate from the stats on chance of down syndrome with the mothers age. google that. that work the same way because the cause is the same, because if it gets likelier with age and is a genetic disease, its caused by DNA damage over time, and since DNA governs dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:42 PM
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no Im not. Nobody tracks what she did for me for how long and calculates my payment based on it. it is purely based on my earnings and networth, which means its based on what can be taken from me rather than what she actually did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:35 PM
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because it adds zero value to me, and she has to quit the job anyway if I earn enough because it’s counterproductive in every way. unless I control the money, its useless. I rather have her fully committed on the house and children and me being committed to earning and just do my part with the children when Im needed to have maximum efficiency and cooperation, because people specializing is more efficient than both doing everything together. the collective energy and time spent is less with much…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:32 PM
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no, they will have the same life structure and use that money the same way I used it, its not for them to spend on them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:28 PM
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I am still paying a disproportionate amount of money. regardless of alimony. and i should be paying shit if she cheats or leaves after a couple of years, and should be paying based on what she provided not what I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:25 PM
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It's not at the man's cost. Both people contribute to a marriage in different ways. yes, but a womans contribution is not money so it can not be measured and when a numerical value is put on it which is certainly possible, it doesn’t compare to the man most of the time. especially because your effort is the same as a potentially uglier woman who is married to someone who earns far less and is less invested but this man gets the same non sexual value that a better looking one provides. for a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:17 PM
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sure, but there is no data on this. I just know because I keep observing it as a pattern and it is biologically explainable and matches data indicative of the same process, like the stats on chance for down syndrome and correlation to the mothers age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:44 PM
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Im still paying to much and its not proportional to time together, not proportional to the value of the womens investment and there is still no fault divorce, and the court is getting money on top of the woman. the money is only proportional to what I make, which is bs. women should not get more for divorcing someone richer, they should all get the same and it should be proportional to time. you marrying someone richer does not mean you need more money to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:40 PM
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People don’t look like their parents, they look like the last food that their parents touched. I don’t need proof of this, just look at all the potato and loaf people walking around this is not entirely untrue, but is not mutually exclusive with what I said. Also, vaginas produce gold coins; I don’t need proof of this, just look at how men will worship vagina except that my statement can be logically explained by known biological concepts, while you pull stuff out of your ass with no logical exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:38 PM
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not at all. Inherit wealth, experience and knowledge. this is cumulative over each generation and the makes reproductive chance likelier, and with enough children and care, the gene pool can be eternally influenced, as well as have an impact in all the lives of the descendants and the lives they influence. To beat that you would have to be influential in some other way, but thats much more difficult and unrealistic you also do not have any alternative. just wasting money on gratification is usel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:36 PM
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this is ridiculous. what Im saying is just basic common sense. I dont need to have a title to think logically and draw conclusions that explain observed reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:23 PM
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What do you do when you are 60-90 cant do much, no social activities, no sports no socializing like younger people and alone nothing can have value beyond your death other than what can be influenced and remain after death. At least I would have something to be invested in till my last breath and know it had an impact rather than my life making zero difference after death thats just depressing. are you planning to drug yourself your self into happyness for decades or what
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:22 PM
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wtf I have the same risk. why should women accept a fair deal when they can find looser accepting an unfair one? thats what your saying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:18 PM
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this is bs because you cant compare that to wealthy vs not. they still look better and are biologically fitter in every way and are visibly better looking, taller, smarter,… also I bet this study was not done in a way that leads to this out come. take young vs older with similar other parameters and look at their success in life, and the advantage of younger mothers is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:17 PM
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life has no other purpose, thats just the truth, anything else is worthless because when you get old, there is nothing to do that has value beyond your death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:13 PM
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sorry I misunderstood you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:54 PM
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What? look for your self, I dont need to prove shit I already know because I have eyes. It should be common sense based on health and looks being caused by DNA damage, and this accumulates with ages, especially in egg cells because they get produced just once in a life time. its well known that chance of genetic diseases increase exponentially with the mothers age, and that applies to everything else, except that damage is guaranteed, not enough for a disease with a name but always gets penalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:51 PM
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lol, you dont seem to get that genetic health is what keeps us beautiful, symmetrical and smart. the older you are when reproducing, the more damage the DNA has, and that’s especially true for egg cells because they are the only human cell that only gets created once when young, and DNA damage accumulates exponentially. its well known that chance for down syndrome rises exponentially past 30, and since this is caused by cumulative DNA damage, you can assume this to apply to any other genetical i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:48 PM
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the issue is that instead of it being hidden and kept from them, women actively do not care about it when they are you because they get what they want initially, which is mindless short term gratification and resources. also men aren’t exactly picky when it comes to women and as most men are blue pilled, pay for just looks and will commit to them. not the guys with backbone of course, but there will always some looser who will commit to the hoe because she looks good regardless how destructive s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:41 PM
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not true at all. house wife is the opposite of hoe it cant be the same and is not treated the same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:37 PM
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lol look at how people look and are and then look at their parents, you will see a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:23 PM
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It's not privilege, it's security. yes, security at the mens cost, which is bad because its not equally distributed at all Marriage is a contract, a long-term commitment enforced by law. no. its a contract that allows women do do what ever and be rewarded either way, enforced by the government and at the mans expense. And contrary to popular belief, it is still a major incentive for people to behave well in a relationship because no one truly wants to divorce. really? women getting half the mans…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:21 PM
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so what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:05 PM
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its not better. these children are unhealthier, uglier, dumber. thats degeneration. you can not escape how nature set us up to be without humanity suffering and degenerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:04 PM
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The thing is you keep trying to use distrust as an excuse for putting more risk on men. the problem is women still want privileges instead of equal risk. like you said, you get turned off by not having privilege. I stand by what I said. if you dont like men being just as safe as women, you are dangerous. If a woman is not happy about fairness, Im not going to commit period. I find it disturbing that you seem to be reasonable until it gets all thrown out of the window for maintaining toxic laws. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:06 PM
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I dont have another choice. I can put effort in trying to find it, but it is not realistic. What choice do I have when most people just perceive differently and want to spent time in ways I am repulsed by?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:41 PM
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That's actually not unreasonable. Good for you that you atleast consider this as an option (many men don't give a shit). well I can’t demand the the stuff Im trying to avoid from someone else, this wont work and is also as ungrateful as women today wanting marriage. I definitely plan on doing what I proposed or something similar, maybe pay her a salary what ever but I need a woman to be as committed to me as my finances allow it and want her to treat my success as her own to maximize cooperation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:37 PM
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Its not about the person they vote for, its about the reasons for it aswell as the policies they vote for. this isnt just a matter of parties. Its a matter of being media propaganda influenced or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:41 PM
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I agree but you are not fairly measuring risk. Women being SAHM without marriage and than the man dying is maximum risk, but it is extremely rare for men to die. Im not saying women should be SAHM with no security. But marriage is the reverse, and everything is on the man and women gain by default. Until marriage laws change, I personally would not marry, and get her name on a small condo Im buying and finance it so that a controlled amount of my money can get to her legally that is proportional…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:38 PM
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this is insane tbh. you cant expect men to naturally give you orgasms every time like some chads will do. Likewise I could say I expect women to fuck like pornstars while having low body count and no experience, but unlike women, men can not just fuck someone else, but women doing so prevents them from having family because their orgasm is more important to them until they realize they had no chance at looking this guy down. its just not realistic at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:31 PM
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so you have no argument, great shut up and leave me alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:27 PM
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the question is how can women be incentivized to treat their husbands success as theirs without allowing the man to get robbed and at the same time not risk more than the same? That would be ideal. I personally would avoid marriage and just put her name on a small condo that I keep financing, so that she can sell it in a case of breakup and get a specific amount of money I can control by repaying debt each month but that is proportional to the time spend with the woman and that I also can not ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:22 PM
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yes somewhat because of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:17 PM
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So anyone who earn less is an incompetent looser? you keep proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:05 PM
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women need to have equal risk. you advocate against it. women today have none. we need to put more risk on woemen and have more savety for men to equalize and incentivize families
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:04 PM
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yeah and most of any purpose and joy, especially the older you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:02 PM
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depends on how you put it, yes being super attractive is intimidating but only in the context of engaging with these women in terms of picking them up. If a man has already fucked her, she isn’t intimidating anymore because the intimidating part is the fear of judgement and disrespect that can make men feel humiliated by being rejected or not respected by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:54 PM
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Uhhh oh this isnt disputable. look what they do there. forced equality notions aka marxism everywhere I work with mapping and data, my job has no hinderance on my femininity. not the work itself, but the fact that you need to be hard to get better jobs and because it requires competion with men on skill, which is inherently not feminine. Also why would an adult woman act like a child…. because that’s attractive and what children need in a mother. I’m not entitled to anything in life many money t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:51 PM
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yes they do before they earn it, then possibly overtake the guy and leave him. also women act that way merely on perceived social status they assign going to college. you have College women resenting men despite them outearning them and being more competent any every aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:41 PM
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Thats just bs labeling to avoid accountability. your feelings are hurt. I just told you the objective truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 04:38 PM
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why should only one side bring value wtf? also men never stopped providing value, women did. How about we put everything women can do for men and men can do for women on a paper, look at how many people provide that and than compare you adds more to each others life? the woman will give less most of the time. Why so you think women get angry when asked about what they bring to the table, or when you try to objectively but number on it? because they think being female and being pretty is enough t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:47 PM
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Your looks isnt the problem, and its not the race either. its your behavior. your probably inconsiderate of others, have attitude and are entitled. if you werent, even if you were the ugliest person in the world they would just act as if you were there. if they engage with you you must have provoked them somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:45 PM
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lol men just dont give these women attention and just are indifferent. men get off of putting men down, not women. men dont feel superior by putting down women, for men its the default so being mean to women is valueless for men. If they are mean, you did something bad that provoked them, otherwise they would have left you alone completely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:43 PM
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they arent. they are just not doing the butt kissing women are used to from everyone because they are not attracted. men just treat you like they treat other men. men typically are nicer to women them dont like than to random men. women though are actually mean and attack them even when they are attracted to them, and especially when that guy rejects them. women have anger and hate against the male gender because the media and society raised them to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:40 PM
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truth is not hate just because it hurts your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:31 PM
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Its not unfounded at all. I have heard so many women say the guy has to earn more or the same to be respected, and I have heard enough stories that made it evident that the woman resented the guy for overtaking him in earning ability. sure some women are okay with in as long as you still are a leader and are better in important aspects of live. but most women will disrespect because they only see men as a valuable if he adds something, and women do not perceive rules as valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:30 PM
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the female orgasm is not needed for reproduction. It doesnt mean we should given women orgasms or that they deserve none, it just means its not essential for reproduction and the implication is it should not be essential to have an orgasm every time to have families if women are that difficult to get to orgasm for that many men . I mean there is no reason they should want to try and learn how to do it, but most of the time the women do not want that and just fuck someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:27 PM
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these men are not standing up for women, they are simping. they follow their natural urge to protect women when they act like they suffer, despite them deserving the criticism. Its s fundamental weak point of all men who do not actively try to be objective, and many men automatically side with the woman when she screams and cries because of it being a psychological button, and women know that and take advantage of this. men should hold women accountable, and give them the criticism they were den…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:22 PM
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this is objective. In modern times, if a woman is criticized, it’s probably justified, especially when its a man doing it. men usually have a good judgement ability when it comes to legitimacy of criticism, women do not because they get caught up in their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:18 PM
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you wouldn’t laugh anymore if you would care to really find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 03:08 PM
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You simply do not understand shit about economics. free health care and basic income is a tax in disguise and lowers the quality of life, but just lack any economic understanding and instead tunnel vision on the supposedly free stuff that isnt free at all. labor has value, and so does the health care services. you can only give money by taking money from somewhere, and that somewhere are taxes because the doctors have to be payed, and on top of that, the fact that the government guarantees it al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:38 PM
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true, but that doesnt mean they dont have useless degrees. also these educated women are the ones not having children until at least 30 or even later, and many never and if they do are not in the house. they are worse than single mother’s because they often have no children until its to late.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:33 PM
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I dont make the rules. Its just what it is. If you care to find out you will. if you dont you dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:30 PM
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well the united nations are forcing pedophilia onto poor children in exchange for resources, actively kill people for the purpose of killing them, and are an elitist construct of globalists who want to genocide white people and install technocratic authoritarian communism under the disguise of forced marxist equality and fake environmentalism. also people are not equal at all we have value to the collective that can objectively be measured. there are people who are worthless, parasites , and peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:12 PM
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I dont care about red pilled guys wtf has that to do with anything? peterson might be hypocritical interms of being a push over himself who raised his daughter to be just as bad as the worst feminists, but that doesn’t change the fact that what he has to say about psychology is good advice. its just that he ultimately is to soft and not red pilled enough to do it right, but he still does a good job opposing the leftist dysfunction
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:05 PM
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how is that a question? colleges are leftist propaganda machines, take time of your youth to complete, the job requires to not display femininity and enthusiastic child like behavior, makes women entitled because of being a degree/title that is inherently a social status proxy, gives more time to party and more young people to fuck, and is guaranteed to cause debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:56 PM
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Women who grew up in it and get rid of it are rare though. not saying it’s impossible, bit hard to believe she can abandon it especially the core propagandandistic elements
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:53 PM
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Thats the problem. anyone not voting for trump is an unscientific ideological idiot who fell for the media propaganda. He might not be perfect but generally good for the country, while the other option is literally the devil trying to destroy everything people value.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:49 PM
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adress my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:48 PM
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yes. political brainwashing, debt, entitlement, kills the enthusiastic childlike attitude, kills femininity because of being professional, wastes years of year youth, and likely more sexual encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:30 PM
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if she was questioning herself and had any selfawareness, she would not have these terrible qualities. she has no idea what she is doing. imagine being a phd and actively going out of your way to eat unhealthy food just because media says its good, actively advocating for destruction of family and discrimination of men. thats not self awareness at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:25 PM
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possibly in an objective way. I define overweight based on ideal. if your close enough for it to look the same, your fine. if you dont look close to ideal, you gotta do something about it, health risk or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:14 PM
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bullshit, people do it subconsciously with everyone they meet, its just that some people are unaware or virtue signal about it. you judge people for superficial stuff. your just in denial or unaware
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:12 PM
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so unless you are a 10 percent woman in terms of what men value, you are deluded and full of ego and crap because you cant get the 10 percent because there are just as many 10 percent women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:10 PM
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no, overweight is anything more than 10 pounds away from ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:09 PM
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below average is anyone who looks ugly in some sense, average is neutral and below is ugly. the same extends to job and everything else. difference is that a womens earning is irrelevant and this would be more about skills and attributes people value in each other respectively
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:08 PM
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because I though you meant that men think that instead of referring to the existence of these comments by women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:05 PM
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lol women do say these things, but they are stupid and men dont think that way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:01 PM
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you just cant differenciate between insult and getting offended. one is initiated by me, false and meant to offend. the other one is passive, and doesnt not need intent, and doesnt care about true or false. thats what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:01 PM
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because I said MEN dont think that way, and only women claim they do to blame them for not wanting the woman and to show superiority instead of owning up to no being good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:59 PM
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try. how do they need to make you feel, describe that feeling and actions that cause it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:47 PM
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why though? it adds nothing and kills value. What value does that bring? unless you straight up give me your money, its just a huge negative unless you have no dept, no brainwashing and are prepared to stop working for some years and then work part time at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:46 PM
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no. family needs a mother role, not a second father and more money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:43 PM
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The problem is the stem girl is likely ugly and likely wants a career, and isn’t feminine. she might be smart and trustworthy, but thats not enough. some other fields would be way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:39 PM
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sadly female phds or scientists are not rational and analytical thinkers at all they might be at work, but as soon as it comes to world view and politics, they are as dumb and unscientific as anyone else, often much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:37 PM
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no, men dont approach because they dont like how you look or how you behave and talk and your mindset. you cant out that onto the career.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:34 PM
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yes, but because they feel emasculated and because they know the woman will loose respect and cheat or leave, even if the man is 10x more skilled and a leader and the woman is like a child. thats not intimidation. The only men who are intimidated are people who have an inferiority complex for being lower social class, but these wont date these women anyway, and they are way more intimated by educated men. also its more jealousy than intimidation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:30 PM
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no they dont. they are still women. no matter what they have or say, they are still stupid. For a woman to be intimidating she would have to outperform interms of provision and skill, and be conversationally more dominant. thats not going to happen. women are submissive in conversation if you put in anger, and they cant outskill me, the only way they earn more is by doing of or modeling or something apperance based, but they still are dumb, submissive and clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:26 PM
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again. no. education is valueless in women and often does alot of harm and no good. as long as you are smart and have enough education to have a baseline understanding of things its all we need. women should focus on motherly qualities and bringing value to men, and that is certainly not money or career. It would be different if we controlled your money, but we dont so its useless and you spend your time ob someone else, and have debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:25 PM
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No, its a deflection. Men are not intimidated, they are repulsed by the way the woman acts and talks. It has nothing to do with career. lower class men might feel lesser but these guys wont ever approach these women and these women dont want them. and even if they did, they are not intimidated by women. and since this is meant to apply to men who actually earn more and are smarter but have less titles, this is absurdly laughable. its just cope for them being nasty and undesirable. why would I be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:21 PM
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This is a distortion of reality. nobody refuses to date because you have higher education. Men possibly refuse to date CAREER women, meaning women who care about work and want to invest into that instead of into the man. Also women with higher education often are liberals and have a stagnant opinion of the world. we dont want women who want a career instead of a family. Thats why I would never date a doctor or someone like that. these people are not cut out for family, prioritize something else,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:01 PM
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we need to have a financial abortion that can be done shortly after birth. and we need women who did paternity fraud to go to jail and pay all the money he spent on the children back to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:32 AM
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this is exactly what I was talking about. Women are irrational and weak compared to men, and the fact that you perceive that as insulting is the problem. the truth is not hate. If you are insulted by listening negative true attributes, you are at fault. So is there no way to mention that certain people have negative attributes if they are true? Your feelings being hurt by the truth does not change the truth nor does it mean that I am disrespectful or hurtful. getting hurt by being told negative …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:27 AM
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how is it for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:49 AM
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how did he die because of not being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:49 AM
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it says alot about how far gone modern women are. he was neither rude nor disrespectful ever, he just mirrored energy. these women are just hateful creatures who want anyone who doesn’t simp and doesn’t worship their dysfunction to be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:55 AM
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Because thats how men work, and I doubt many women talk about that with males. Most women I know are impossible to talk to about differences in details in behaviors and urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:43 AM
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what can a sexual fantasy be about other than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:36 AM
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what does he have to do to cause attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:33 AM
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I really hope this is only you, because this seems like an unpredictable mess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:31 AM
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So no, I don't immediately know who I have sexual interest in because my sexual interest ultimately hinges on how he interacts with me. you left out the most important part. what exactly is the behavior that the guy has to do? I think I already know the answer, but I want to hear from you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:29 AM
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How was he an asshole though? he had an ego, but everything he said was spot on and he did treat the callers with appropriate respect. he never was disrespectful with people who were polite. I dont get why he is labeled an asshole. for what? for not simping for disrespectful women and telling them the truth they dont want to hear but that they desperately need to hear?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:15 AM
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The birth rates and how rare normal families are is enough of a sign that there is something severely wrong with gender dynamics. If everyone was fine, this wouldn’t be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:53 PM
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anyway Im sad that I cant continue to watch his stuff, him debating these delusional women was like therapy to me, and his channel was valuable for society especially for women. Its even more sad to see that he gets hate despite providing value to everyone even the people who did not watch or know him just because women are to immature to take advice other than ass kissing. His personal life is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:50 PM
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Im not concerned with fat men demanding thin women. Im in shape and generally have a better physique than most active longterm gym goers, so this doesnt apply to me. your title implies that fat men are demanding in shape women, which is absurd. men you dont offer much do not demand. women do that because they get attention anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:47 PM
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I dont how alpha he was or wasnt. I care about his message and impact. What he advocated for is what we need to fix the mess feminism created, and regardless of what he did or didnt do, he had the correct message and enough followers to have an impact long term. His death is a loss because he really was the only person getting reason to women. all the other red pillers are just ridiculing women for their behavior, but there was nobody other than KS who women listened to who did hold them account…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:44 PM
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I dont know if you are trying to make fun of me or are serious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:37 PM
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Hm its just unreal. So many people dying young in the last months. He appeared much younger than he is and also talked like that, its just strange that he died just like that. I used to watch everything he made and really looked forward to it. he was the only person who could and wanted to make a difference. for him to be dead just like that is just really strange. maybe he got killed who knows. wouldnt surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:36 PM
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You said anything about hormones? body types are real, and so are hormones, but these arent related at all, and do not have the implications they ate portrayed to have. Body type is metabolism and bone structure, yes these can be influenced by hormones, but still people can have high and low hormones of anything with every body type. just because one body type might look more muscular doesnt mean there actually more muscle. Like I said, it requires protein, water, heavy training and energy, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:32 PM
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You say this without any sense of irony and then immediately go on to use femininity as a base insult: no, femininity is an insult for men, thats why it is used that way. that has nothing to do women at all. men are supposed to be stronger and braver than women, and thats why its an insult for men. You demonstrate exactly how little you think of people with pussies. no I dont. I just demonstrated that I think little of men behaving like women because men need to behave like men because they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:26 PM
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You dont know shit. Im not a looser at all. most people generally like me, I used to be super popular, and definitely can get people to like and respect me because of what I say, and that sometime was enough to fuck women who objectively look much better and are social af, despite being below 6 feet and maybe slighly above average at most. I cant be a looser if I could do that despite that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:45 PM
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Finding people who are somewhat curious is not enough. they gotta be interested in just about everything and like to endlessly discuss technicallities and not be politically brainwashed. These people are rare, and live solitairy life like I do, with superficial distant friends but no depth, and maybe have individual friendships who are strong, but never a normal social group that gives you a feeling of belonging somewhere. thats just not realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:40 PM
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yes it does, but the same visual fat level is not the same number for all women, and it still can numerically narrowed down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:32 PM
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I said look, not number. If you fit that you fit that and thats fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:18 PM
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link me a profile of a woman who is good looking but the profile isnt focused on her body and instead something else. if never in my life seen that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:16 PM
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Except “peak” is not the same body fat percentage on every woman. How fat is distributed is the key point. Better distribution means a bigger range for peak. the look of the tissue is the same though, and the peak is a look rather than number, and is absolute for everyone. Why work extra hard for little to no pay off. If men already think I’m ideal there’s no reason to change from a sexual marketplace perspective because this man might not be honest or a larger percentage of men think differentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:14 PM
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no it isnt. after all literally every woman on social media exclusively post pictures of herself. have you ever seen a womens social media with a theme other than her own body? I dont, but I know most men do focus their profile on something else, even if they are on every picture presenting their lifestyle, they want be half naked, wont pose in a sexual way, and the focus is not on their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:10 PM
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Its not your choice. I cant have a social circle because average people just bore me, I have no desire to talk about what they talk about, and have no desire to mindlessly vibe, spend money and do small talk. Also I feel alienated by most people just being dumb empty vessels with no real thought. and Im not socially awkward at all, I have been super popular for a while in high school and know it is a game changer, but I still could not have meaningful relationships with people because I might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:03 PM
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because I observe enough that I already know the answers, and I can’t explain everything and expect people to be analytical and to observe reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:56 PM
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most men going to the gym and eating a lot also do not have better physiques. look at bodybuilders pre steroid era. not the food of today, better bodies than naturals today. most gym bodies you see on tv or instagram or youtube is steroid use and not representative of actual muscle gain limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:55 PM
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because you didnt increase training intensity and enough and didnt ear enough protein, and because you cant gain real muscle weight that fast. You can maybe add 40 pounds of muscle in your life time, and it usually reaches the limit at 3-5 year if everything goes well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:51 PM
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you can put it that way but you still will be punished for every ounce of fat above or below peak, yes you can technically have more and be as attractive as women with worse proportions, but this has a limit that is easily reached and you would still be significantly more attractive if you just kept that weight off. I just dont get why you would sell yourself short by getting away with being as attractive as other women despite having more potential just because of being to lazy to loose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:48 PM
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what you are saying is as stupid as me saying its weird to be attracted to men even as a woman. Dont you get that men biologically are wired to perceive differently? just because you cant understand how men perceive it , doesnt mean its weird, especially if it is every man, just because you cant understand it. I also cant understand how someone being taller can be attractive, I also don’t understand how male behavior can be attractive because Im a man. why do t you apply the same logic to men? w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:40 PM
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Men always look down on weakness, it’s just how things are. no, men look down on weakness in other men, not in women or children, and also men are not looking down on men needing help, just them being pussies because its harmful for the collective, and to exhibit superiority for status, but that doest apply to women because the weaker women are the more attracted they are to help, its no coincidence that women pretend to be dumber and weaker to hit on men because they instinctively know this wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:32 PM
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Its not weird for men. men arent women. we get sexually triggered by seeing their pictures, thats the whole reason porn works, and why men simp over pictures of women. its completely normal for men to like to look at that, just not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:15 PM
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And yet all women on oral contraceptives look different. Genetic predisposition to fat distribution is far more impactful. Do you not understand different body types. Like women who only gain on their legs or only on their torso that doesnt change the function of these hormones. many genetic differences are estrogen receptor polymorphisms. yes they look different, but that doesn’t challenge my claim. Also taking steroids is a weird flex Its not a flex, its just prove that I understand how sex ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:12 PM
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the attention would be switched if women would not believe they still deserve and are able to get top men. also outside of family there isnt much to live at 45+, women who have a family an d broke it off at that age are selfish pieces of shit who through away family including childrens wellbeing to hoe around for some more years, and eventually be alone and single the last 30 years of her live, just because the gratification and dopamine from these fucks were more important and the woman lacking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:08 PM
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No Im right, but peoples receptors for hormones function differently and can have mutations, and I mentioned that skeletal structures is just as important, and thats why they look different. there is lots of stuff that can go wrong despite it entirely being governed by these hormones. I know how hormones work, ive been on steroids, I know how both male and female hormones affect the body in way you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:54 PM
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yes you do so I can make fun of your explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:51 PM
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Doesnt matter, we are not talking about sex alone, and while women remain sexually active they will not have relationships and family because if they did they would be able to be active, because these women want family and relationships more than older men want to fuck older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:50 PM
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you keep distorting the argument. Yes the woman will have a line a young men wanting to FUCK them, but nobody wants a relationship or family with them. The 50 year old man will be less desperate for family and ltr than the women, and can find a 5 year younger women or even ten year younger one to have a family with, because they are out of time, and women very much care about having children especially as they approach the wall. The man being less desired for sex is irrelevant because the horny …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:47 PM
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following models is not weird lol why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:40 PM
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Doesnt matter because that not a valid metric. accurate would be to compared the ability of a 50 year old man to have sex at all inside a commited relationship and a 50 year old womans ability to have a committed relationship and family. Since family is off the table, the woman looses by default because relationship from the mans point of view is for sex and family. what would a 50 year old man do with a 50 year old women if they are not already family for decades? companionship can be men becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:37 PM
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Yes I like hourglass, but tbh. the shape is mostly caused by bone structure, and you actually can change the fat distribution by taking estrogen/progesterone . Its not a coincidence that women on birth control gain weight and often mature fast visually when they start taking it at a young age. Im not saying this is ideal in terms of healthy but it works and keeps fat distribution and collagen content up. Also women who are competitive bodybuilders need to take anti estrogens to get off the fat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:33 PM
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I am getting it, Im just very skeptical about you not overdoing the individual differences to justify having to much fat. I know its just a feeling, but I can t know what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:16 PM
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again they look all the same, and every women knows how their body looks. how is that odd? Im a man, I like looking at women. Thats anything but odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:13 PM
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this is with ideal distribution. Also allmost all instagram models have the same body, doesnt matter which one. their bodies look mostly identical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:05 PM
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no, fat is a deal breaker on its own. Fat can be judged objectively regardless of body proportions. like I said flat soft undefined tight is ideal. anything loose is bad. the weight is irrelevant and the proportions are bone related.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:02 PM
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yes they are. All people I know who are successful with women have the exact same personality, and they all are shallow af, inconsiderate of others and emotionally unavailable, and the edge they have is precisely the fact that they see women as lifeless opportunities to fuck, and the fact they are unaffected by them being disrespectful or rejecting and disrespectful of bounderies is what makes them successful, because most women bounderies are fake, depending on social situations or are shit tes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:58 PM
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Funny, I was under the impression they really want it from women. men want kindness from the women they want to commit to. Also there are plenty of men who are just interested in sex and these men do not care about kindness. High value is about attracting the women. regardless of it being for family or sex, the requirements for men are the same thats why the mans intentions do not matter here. In other words, it’s like I said: some men are like you, and enjoy performing trivial acts of chivalry …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:49 PM
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you have to keep in mind that bone structure matters a lot as well. fat is fat, but width isnt width.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:34 PM
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most models do not have incredibly low body fat. Im talking about instagram models. yes the famous models are all too lean. most of them looked perfect before they started modeling though because they already were perfect but actively lost weight for it. I googled women and body fat percentages, and Id say 25 is ideal. I wouldnt say 30 is unhealthy, but not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:28 PM
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yes, but it doesnt matter because bodyfat distribution is governed by estrogen and progesterone. too much fat overall is bad, and if you take a woman with ideal bodyfat distribution and overall fat, anything more will be to much. men just judge it by looking at them. men evolved to tell health fat levels. doesnt matter that some men fetishize fat. look at average instagram models. that is what healthy fat levels are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:06 PM
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I know that women are not going to fuck someone they are repulsed by, but women are not going for what they need to feel attraction. they go for men far beyond the minimum threshold for feeling attraction because they can because nature assigned them that privilege for their youth so that men are more incentivized to get with them young to maximize reproductive success. the problem is them keeping their expectations as high as if they still had that youth privilege, but they dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:58 PM
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how do you know the guys here are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:56 PM
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I know what they look like because my body has naturally build in triggers to recognize healthy weight in women. The typical instagram model has a healthy body fat level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:55 PM
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Men do know. they just have no idea about actual weight, and women typically tend to be overly obsessed about the actual weight. I judge female bodyfat by how they look. if it looks a certain way, which is a certain bodyfat level, it looks good. the actual weight is irrelevant. how can you claim men have no idea when they actively pick women based on what they supposedly do not know? how about men having eyes and natural triggers? there is no debate about heathy fat levels, its just that media k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:54 PM
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Doesnt matter, women are more attractive on average than the men who look the same because of biology. the men young women can date will not want them 20 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:47 PM
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then why are the most successful men in terms of women typically trashy people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:45 PM
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Nobody is shaming women, thats just being unaccountable for the objective truth. biology tells us that women peak at 23-25 , and men ten years later, as well as explains all the details and predicts the wall. you mentioning fox news and fearmongering tell me your a brainwashed leftist nut. shame is what the mainstream leftist media does. Since you bring that up in a political way, you are a nut job for sure. you do t care about reality. if you think reality is shame, you confused feeling being h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:45 PM
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you have no idea. men do not care about kindness. Why would it be polite to treat women in a way that you would bot treat random men? Of course the reason is because they are weaker and fragile physically and emotionally, but since women also do not admit that, we need to talk about the simps. most men today dont do shit for other men, but do lots of shit for women. thats not kind. thats because they have sexual incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:27 PM
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no, because we are not talking about money, we are talking about physical attraction power. yes, you do need the money, because most women can not retire on their own salary, in fact most people cant. again what me loose is irrelevant, because women loose more because they start off with more, and the advantage they have is their youth being way more attractive on its own in a way that does not exist for men, but thats also a double edged sword and the reason they eventually are less valuable th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:24 PM
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no, its a deal breaking metric for men who do not fetishize fat, which is most. Being anything other than around ideal body fat distribution is deal breaking, weight does not matter. if you have enough fat to affect the face, you are significantly less attractive and can loose any attractiveness. generally 20 pounds over deal will have significantly worse options regardless of anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:18 PM
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read the title of this thread right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:08 PM
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we are talking about excessive weight and stretch marks as a consequence. generally, healthy for women is when the stomach is flat tight, no definition. anything more is overweight technically and looks worse than that, and you can be at most 10 pounds above peak before its visibly overweight. generally if you have excess fat on your face or stomach, you are overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:08 PM
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your weight doesnt matter for health. your bodyfat does. you can have people the same height one being skinny with narrow shoulder, narrow waist and no muscle and have someone with muscle, wide hips, wide shoulders. these people can be 20-30 pounds weight difference easily but have the same fat level, so they are equally healthy. how is it an oxymoron?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:04 PM
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The outcome is the same, and yes it is closely related. women become so undesirable with age because men judge attributes which are proxies to judge reproductive ability. for example men value body fat distributions, lip fullness and collagen content of skin and water content in skin because their loss is caused by sex hormones declining, which govern reproduction and female cycle. them being less reproductive has a strong correlation to these features being gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:01 PM
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yes, and that refers to women and men. read my other comments I left where I explained what the wall is about. yes people might distort it, but the reality is different but has the same outcomes these people are claiming, they are just not that analytical about explaining it . and women deny it regardless because they think dont want to deal with the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:54 PM
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you are projecting the female behaviors of fat women demanding fit men onto men. fat men are mute and do not ever approach women let alone demand anything. regular dudes have no backbone, and fat guys are mute. they might be harrassing women like crazy online, but in real life they dont approach anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:54 PM
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no, but it healthy tilts in their favor and men can not reach the degree of ignorance women can reach on average. Doesnt mean that there are plenty of delusional men, just not nearly to the extent that women can be deluded because society at least hold them accountable, while women get encouraged to get deeper into delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:51 PM
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over weight is any fat that causes the stomach to stick out and not be streamlined and flat and tight. weight doesnt mean that much because people have different bone structure, visibly excessive fat is what is overweight. if you do not have a tight flat undefined soft stomach you are overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:47 PM
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yes, but that can be taken out of consideration because it applies to anyone. we are focusing on the female attractive power declining so fast that they loose their privileges and loose the bargaining power that allowed them to get what they got when younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:45 PM
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yes, it is, but higher bodyfat on women looks just as in shape a men, because the bodyfat is distributed around chest, ass and hips, which causes men and women with compararable attractiveness to have a difference in body fat but this is not visible. they do not have excess fat. body positivity promotes fat people. women are supposed to have jaw lines and flat, tight soft stomaches, not stretch marks and double chins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:43 PM
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men hit their financial peak later in life because career progresses. of course this doesnt apply to lower class people and people having average jobs, but thats not the people I talk about. Im talking middle class people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:40 PM
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⁠Also fat distribution plays a big part. As fat distributes on the body, most women get big butts and bigger boobs which make them more attractive even though they are gaining weight (Ashley Graham). no, thats bs. body fat distribution is controlled by hormones. gaining weight for women wont change he body proportions at all, what they gain on the chest and butt they will also gain everywhere else, which doesnt help. also a big butt and big chest is not generally attractive on its own, only to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:38 PM
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the problem is not the lifestyle nor the portion size. the problem is the kind of foods that people eat. these foods are way to high in calories for their volume, contain stuff like fructose sirup and taste amplifiers that make people actively hungry and are addictive and cause normal food to not taste because of the taste receptors being overstimulated, these foods contain zero nutrients, and are loaded with unhealthy additives. And they are promoting veganism and plant diets, which might be lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:23 PM
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they are not advocating for healthy. Peak attractiveness is peak health, and that’s typically like 10 pounds above model level lean. Having any excess fat is unhealthy. The healthy ideal female body is as streamlined as possible while having the perfect hourglass shape as much as possible, meaning the point where you see no bones on the body and it appears soft but also tight without any fat beyond what is necessary to keep the edges look soft and round. thats not what they are promoting. that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:18 PM
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They didnt go from underweight to healthy, they went from underweight to overweight. typically modeling level leanness is about 10 pounds to thin. they are literally advocating for obesity and unhealthy to be normal to keep the healthcare industry and food industry strong to fuel dependence on government.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:10 PM
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this is a myth. gains isnt muscle. If you are skinny and low bodyfat you build muscle as fast as someone who puts on weight fast, because that guy isn’t building more muscle. if the guy was to diet down, hed look the same. muscle requires training, protein and energy, but the energy can also be taken from fat, so unless you are ripped to death, you will build actual muscle tissue just as fast. the hard gainer stuff is just an illusion of the other men putting on more water weight and fat, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:06 PM
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there are far more obese women than men statistically and the more obese they get the bigger the discrepancy in numbers. also this is clearly a projection. Men absolutely know they can not demand in shape when out of shape themselves. I have rarely seen out of shape men with in shape women, but I have seen fat women with fit men. women often demand the man to be all kinds of shit including fit while being fat. every man demanding the girl to be in shape will be in shape himself. Lets not forget …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:58 PM
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Then why are you arguing against the concept of the wall? If you are good with women, you would not be simping for them, or you have not backbone. because it is reality denial. if you argue agaisnt it as a man, you must be simping because it’s delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:47 PM
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yes you can, plenty of men are. these men have sex with young hot women, so they are high value. what they do doesnt matter. only that they get to have sex with these women often. only attributes that lead to what is currency to men counts. Its not about giving you what you want, its about getting out of you what he wants. not being a piece of shit has to do with cooperation, not sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:41 PM
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anything other yes, thats how it is means fighting the concept. you don’t accept it. if you did, you would try to argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:40 PM
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you are just unaccountable or purposefully trying to not understand. The ugly men get uglier, remain socially awkward, remain short, bald and whatever. but that doesnt matter when they loose attrction to aging women faster than women loose attraction to men, forcing women to lower standards or stay alone. These men might be just as undesirable as before or more, but the women have overtaken the men in undesirability, which is why they have to get with men they previously would not give a chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:33 PM
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If you were indifferent, you would not fight the concept and just accept it, but you do fight it so you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:27 PM
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In the real world where I live, unlike yourself perhaps age gaps with women as the older partner are plentiful. Usually with gaps less than 10 years, about 5 years is about average but the three I mention are 12 years, 16 years and 19 years respectively, the woman older in each case. Its not common but these are the only large age gap long term relationships / marriages (or any for that matter) I know of irl. I don't know any older male / younger female relationships with such a large gap. I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:24 PM
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If a man is able to cheat alot, hes obviously high value to women. high value does not mean high value to an individual women. this isnt about what you perceive to be high value in terms of a mate. High value is what gets the man the outcomes the man wants. high value is a description from the male point of view. you might want a man who does not cheat, what you want doesnt make him high value. what makes him high value is that he gets out of you or other women WHAT HE WANTS. If he cheats on wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:07 PM
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Anyone who is attractive and symmetrical can remain attractive well into their middle age. yes, but the attractive power to the opposite sex drops at vastly different rates. women might still be attractive, but 10/10 women at 35 will not get a 10/10 35 year old dude, because this dude can get 8/10 - 0/10 25 and will do so. the 10/10 30 year old women will have to get with an 8/10 30 year old man, the 35 year old woman 10/10 with a 7/10 35 year old man, the 40 year old 10/10 women with a 6/10 40 …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:02 PM
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Yes they are, because men are not desperate to get with them. Also women not being desperate doesnt mean shit. what matters is that men are not desperate for older women, and therefore all these older women will remain single because they remain oblivious to their value having nosedived. if women knew this, they would be as desperate as the young simps, but they aren’t because they still believe they could get someone like they used to. And women most definitely are much worse off alone, especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:49 AM
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lol you are just delusional. observable reality disagrees. plenty of age gaps in mens favor. you dont know 3 relationship with significantly younger men. this never happens, you are lying. This is so opposed to observable reality that you have to be deliberately lying. to even know one example like that would be rare but 3 and than not much more thevreverse screams bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:41 AM
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observable reality disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:39 AM
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The comment from the women above is the most delusional stuff Ive heard in a long time. Its about as delusional as me saying Im the most attractive dude in the world while being rejected by everyone. To women reality doest matter, only what they feel. and when reality proves them wrong, they argue and deny reality instead of changing their belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:38 AM
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You live in a complete fantasy world, do you not have grandparents, do you not see old couple at the park? no you do. most people not having a significant age gap does not disprove it being possible. I often read stuff if r\redpillwomen and every third women who post there has a guy who is like 10 years older. The average age gap between couples in the US is 2.5, there is no epidemic of old men dating young women. why does it have to be an epidemic? this makes no sense. yes the average is not mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:32 AM
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no, what you think does not matter. being high value is objective and tied to an outcome, and is what men who have that outcome have in common. If a guy has money, is decent to good looking and not socially awkward, he will always be able to get women who are younger and hotter. if he can not date a woman who is younger and better looking, he can not objectively be high value, because thats the metric it is being judged on. what makes you able to do that is what high value is. not what individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:19 AM
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not all men have no standards, just the one with no backbone. What you dont get is men fuck anything when young, but that does not scale up with age. the hornyness targets young women. old men are not desperate to fuck old women like they are with young women, and all the non sexual benefits of women are gone with age. women sexual power gets lots with age to a point where the same desperate men do not care about these women, and only the ugliest loosers keep simping for older women, not the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:13 AM
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Its not a myth. you just strawman the argument and then claim its false while implicitly proving the actual point right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:09 AM
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Not for older women though, thats where it falls apart. they might be more desperate to get with a young women, but an older man is less desperate to get with an older woman than the reverse by far. where is the desperation gonna come from when older women do not have what causes the desperation? and at the same time, women loose the attention that prevented them from desperation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:06 AM
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no. if that was the case, there would be no older single women who desperately want a man, but there are many, and these women typically are not the ugly women, they are women who were attractive but were entitled hoes. the depressed men where already single and depressed when young, and more young men are single and troubled than older men because women are forced to comply when aging or be alone. you dont get that while men are desperate to get with young women, they are not desperate to get o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:02 AM
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thats not a counterargument. these kind of responses just mean being beaten and offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:58 AM
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not having problems with women is misleading and not indicative of value. I know plenty of men who dont have problems with women only because they are okay with women other men would not be okay with. he could be dating women who are significantly below in looks, and thats likely what is happening because if he was successful with women, he would have been able to get a younger women, and would have to put up with someone older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:56 AM
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all the depressed single women at middle age without family tell a different story. men are desperate when young because they lack leverage, but this reverses with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:52 AM
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thats bs. men complain because they were raised to believe this is what would get them women, which is bs. Thats all they complain about. Women complain about not getting their asses wiped even more than they do get it wiped by men because they perceive kindness because of sexual intention as the norm because it is for them. men do not even get praised for doing great things, men dont care about approval for trivial tasks. women on the other hand get praised for trivial things all the time. men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:41 AM
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chivalry is dead, but simping is common. no woman today will get chivalrous treatment from men with a backbone because they know women do not deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:33 AM
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Maybe these men are below average? this never happens. men dont want to do this. if they do, they are unable to get younger, and that is absolutely on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:28 AM
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Lots of 40 + women would rather be single that be with in a relationship with a man they find unattractive. By that logic, no 40 year old person would ever find someone. thats not how it works. a 40 year old women will be more attracted to a 40 year old man than that man to that woman, and therefore she is more desperate. and btw most people can financially bot afford to be single, especially women who earn less and do only think short term and not about retirement or anything. middle age women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:26 AM
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I can speak in absolutes easily here because its a biological algorithm. Some individual man being less desired when older than a 50 year old woman does not contradict the laws of nature. If you were to compare men and women at the same age, same looks percentile, same maintenance, same status, same job, same social ability you will ALWAYS find that the man is vastly more desirable than the woman and has much more options once the woman hits 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:43 AM
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women hit the wall at 35 an their attraction nose dives after 25. yes you have attractiveness remaining, but not enough to date the older version of the guys you could have gotten at 20. the only way women can feel attractive at that age is by dating lesser and lesser men with every year independently of the mens age. A 40 year old woman can only get with a looser, because everyone else will be able to get younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:38 AM
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how many times do I have to say it: it doesn’t matter when this also applies to women. you act as if your body would be more fragile .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:32 AM
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lol, single males get less with age and women being single increases with age. how about staying in this universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:30 AM
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if that was true, women should have an easier time getting men the older they get, and the most single women should be young women and the least single men should be young men. This is antithetical to just about everything in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:29 AM
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nobody is arguing that. you misunderstand what the wall is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:27 AM
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but some are and can do it, women cant. the man being 10 years older while having a family is not unusual, but the reverse does not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:26 AM
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they are more into 35 year old men than these 35 year old men are into women their age or 20 year old men into 35 year old women, and it diverges more with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:24 AM
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that’s irrelevant. its about the degree of the turn off relative to the age gap and absolute age. You see women with 5-15 year old age gaps in a family. You do not see the reverse ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:22 AM
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You are just in denial or don’t understand how attraction works. Its not about loosing attraction, its about the attractiveness relativ to the opposite genders attractiveness. Women get so much more attention then men who objectively look the same just because men value youthfulness on its own, everything that makes a women attractive both looks and behavior gets lost with age, while that isnt the case for men. them aging at the same pace tilts the attractiveness in favor of men despite loosing …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:19 AM
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no, women of any age do not have it easier. they will have to go after looser if they want to date anyone above 40, or certainly not the guys they could get at 20, because these guys at any age get with women much younger because they can and youth being more attractive than someone who had attractive features a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:12 AM
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60 year old women want 80 year old men more than 80 year old men want 60 year old women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:07 AM
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you dont get what the wall is. It has nothing to do with men not aging, its just that female attractiveness is independently tied to youthfulness in looks and behavior in contrast to men, men are proportionally less attractive to the other sex because women experience such a privilege by youth being valued on its own just in women, but since both age just as fast the womens value will nose dive and eventually be below the men who she was above when young, because much of the superiority in attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:05 AM
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You dont get what the wall is. It doesnt mean men dont get washed up. It means womens higher sexual power is tied to youthfulness independently of beauty, and if people age, this obviously goes away and causes women attractiveness to nosedive but the not the men because men didnt have this immense attractiveness boost for just being young at all. It doesnt matter that men age when women being young is valued differently, and all attributes men value are tied to youth independently of features, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:02 AM
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This just shows again that women are in denial about what the wall even is. It doesnt mean loosing attractiveness with age. Yeah men loose that eventually to. The wall means they loose their attractive power a lot faster with age and a lot earlier because of the youthfulness being valued independently of features in women and not in men, and women loose the ability of having children decades earlier. Sure men get old, but they can get hard until forever provided they take testosterone, and can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:49 AM
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not many for sure. people want to have the benefits, but dont want to do what it takes to get there, especially all the work. I personally would want it, but unlike you are thinking, not forever. I would like to get there, use the benefits of this position to get the best girl possible, put the money into investments and then retire and only work on those or business. Nobody wants to be putting in 60-80 hours a weak for decades, that would balance out all the good that comes along with it. All y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 08:38 AM
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why would I want to associate with these women when there are supposedly others I could choose to deal with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:07 AM
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No, this is nearly all women by default just because of them not being traditional and society incentivizing degeneration and people being prevented from growing up and getting serious about life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:54 PM
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Im not a women, I dont get friendships offered to me for looking pretty. I cant be as selective as women with who I associate with. Also I have no choice when 99 percent of women are useless. Its not just my problem, its a problem for almost anyone because women are out of order and dont do what they are supposed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:39 PM
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I cant enjoy an attractive womans company knowing she isn’t sexually attracted. Even if this person would genuinely be fun to be around, its like starving in front of a mountain of food you can smell, touch but not eat. this isnt fun, its torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:27 PM
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No...? Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are different things. yes, but romantic attraction requires sexual attraction and reciprocated mating behavior to be triggered. you can separate sex from romantic attraction, but not the other way around. As I stated, sex is a deal breaker. It's something I'm upfront with so nobody wastes any time. With that in mind, I don't think I'm being selfish at all. If it's important to him, I wish him good luck in finding someone and move on. We're incompa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:23 PM
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no. You are blaming men, but women are to blame for being liabilities. being a liability is a choice. women are to blame for refusing to offer anything else. Its not mens shortcoming to not value someone who refuses to provide value outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:08 PM
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Nobody made a value judgment but you. yes you did, you are trying hard to make me look immoral for being virtuous and moral. Generally speaking though, viewing human beings as objects only worthy if they make your dick hard isn't seen as healthy or normal. It's seen as dehumanizing and objectifying. thats not at all what I said, I said they have nothing to offer me, that doesnt mean they have no value to someone else. But not to me. We are not talking about value for society. this is about value…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:02 PM
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most women generally are a liability and draining way more than they give. Dont blame us for just wanting sex. we value other stuff women are naturally made to provide, but they refuse to provide it. Dont cry about men only valuing sex when you dont care to have other value. And people making your life easy doesnt excuse taking advantage of it and being selfish. Also dont blame me for other men having no self respect because their mothers raised them to be simps. this mess is all on women. every…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:23 PM
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why do you want to frame this as controversial? So Im a bad person because I dont torture myself to death and let people use me? Come on wtf any attention women get have an incentive. If you are a woman and you want to be friends with me, you can not be sexually attractive to me, otherwise your basically spitting me in the face by even trying to command any attention or time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:14 PM
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No, this is ridiculous. You are supposed to be attractive AND be interesting and offer skills and behavior we need, just like men have to be so many things. Its just that pretty women are so entitled and selfish that they dont care to offer men anything other than looks because it’s enough to get through live on easy mode. I dont commit to women who are just good looking. If a woman is only good for sex, why do anything else other than sex? If you want any monetary and nonsexual benefits , you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:27 PM
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Stop putting words in my mouth and try to shame me for wanting basic needs met. I aint spending no time no attention nothing on a person who is unwilling to provide me with basic stuff but than want to have the benefit of a relationship and getting my time? forget it. you are just advocating for accepting to be used. any second spend with a women who is attractive but doesnt want to have sex is a waste and seconds Im not getting back. why waste my time on users who are to lazy and arrogant to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:18 PM
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Short hair can be hot (not bald) on a chick. not to me. even the most attractive woman on this planet would be as repulsive to me as men if hair are short. they need to be at least a length that looks like a woman. My brain does not recognize short hair as women and zero response is triggered. She hitting on me would be like a gay man hitting on me, thats how I feel about this honestly. You're telling me you will never have a gf that wears baggy cloths? no and I have good reason to. these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:09 PM
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romantic attraction requires sexual attraction to be triggered though. you are straight up selfish. You have to get with someone like you, otherwise you are using the other person because you can not offer a fair deal to anyone and are just wasting their time resources and energy. Why would any man spend any time on someone he gets nothing from? you cant even provide the most basic human needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:00 PM
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Dont use the word fair. Its also not fair that women are more sexually attractive to men and have it so much easier in virtually all aspects in of life except until this power fades with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:38 PM
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because you cant have this attractiveness power without it being a double edge sword. you can not simultaneously have all this attraction privilege and then complain about its downsides. either you attract men with any attributes or none. Thats what you can pick from. thats the price you pay for having this advantage compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:37 PM
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yes, but all the other parts are behaviors that get triggered by being sexually attracted, and I will not provide anything for anyone who isnt willing to provide me with what I need. Im not free and am not living for someone else. I have needs and require something if you want something from me. this is selfish af. I dont even talk to attractive women who dont have sex with me, its a waste of energy and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:33 PM
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no they dont, atleast not with normal people, because they cant provide essential needs. not just sex, none of them because they are connected. These people can not provide what people need and what makes a relationship a relationship. Its just one sided, I would be giving everything and receiving nothing beyond a friend. These people have to get with their kind, to even try something else is selfish and malicious because they are using people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:29 PM
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This is a bs question. Of course not. Why would anyone want that? relationship means physical intimacy and reciprocated mating behavior. That’s literally what it is and what people psychologically need. Without that, it would just be a friendship and I refuse to be friends with women who I like sexually because there is no reason to, it would just be psychological torture and wasted energy and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:35 PM
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the difference between friendship and relationship is sex and sexual behavior. without it, its just a regular friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:23 PM
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This is seriously what I want to know. It makes me feel like men are the ones putting women in the "right". I'd put them both in the category of not being good reasons. I specifically said there can be good reasons for both genders cheating in theory but not in practice because men dont stay in relationships they dont want to be in if they can have someone else unlike women, which is the main problem. OP never said that women being unhappy or unsatisfied in a relationship is a "better" or more "…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:31 PM
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yes, because they will be approached. any attention young women get from men is entirely sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:16 AM
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then there is no way to not be visible assuming face isnt horrible and not overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:10 AM
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no, sexual visibility is passive. If you wanted to camouflage as a women, cut your hair short and wear baggy clothes. Then you are invisible regardless of anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:53 AM
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I have never in my life seen any man who humiliated any women. They just do not notice their existence, and these women do not ask anyone out, so their left alone, and even if they are annoying to a point of deserving it, they often are just getting ignored. Women though are actively trying to compensate their issues by putting down men who have no backbone. women often humiliate or try to humiliate men who actually look good. and men often humiliate ugly men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:51 AM
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No, its simply hormones and sex drive. Men and women statistically can not have variations in uglyness because they are half of the population, have the same genes than brothers, and what makes people look good is genetics and developmental defects that are identical for both genders. Hormonal influences just make you more sensitive to stimuli that trigger sex drive, so much so that they can cause you to view people completely differently and perceive their actions completely differently. I used…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:59 AM
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if these men exist, they gotta be mentally ill. why would you refuse to do what you crave and what keeps you sane and manly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:11 PM
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no offense but there might be some psychological issue. humans have the need to have relationships. If you dont, you might have childhood trauma, maybe from being bullied, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:26 PM
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Hm. Yeah I don't necessarily disagree with that, just the OP's stance that 30+ women aren't attractive to men anymore. Its a bit exaggerated but not to far off from the reality of many men. I cant feel any sexual attraction for women approaching 40, and Im sure its the same for most men. The thing is if women would care to develop non sexual qualities men like and would not treat their man as expandable when young, there is nothing to fear, because I just accept that physical attractiveness fade…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:19 PM
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Women who actively avoid male attention typically have been sexually harassed, abused, or get so much attention that it annoys them beyond benefitting. You dont disprove nothing. If I could take away all your attractiveness privilege for being female, and the attention would be gone, you would have a huge problem with it after a while. you realize all the support and attention really defines all your life and identity. I believe that I have have not been abused or drown in options, you are tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:59 PM
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Who said I think cheating is excusable? When you mentioned women and men cheating being excused not excuses, you just reversed it without acknowledging that what you criticized happens and is valid. Not mentioning it to be also true means you want to dismiss it I even said: Also, to people justifying cheating, what makes you so sure that the cheater even addressed the present problem in the relationship? yes, but you did not acknowledge it to not only a perfectly reasonable assumption, because m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:52 PM
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:32 PM
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The topic was women being psychologically dependent on male attraction, and thats why they care so much more about aging than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:31 PM
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yes. women are harmless. women can not opress men. of course its the government and institutions performing their political agenda. All of this mess is caused by the government sucking up male money through taxes, and then changing laws and pay institutions to oppress men under pseudo moralistic covers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:16 AM
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we would live in a cave
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:14 AM
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delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:14 AM
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Im 23. yes, AESTHETICS is important. But style and fashionable doesnt mean aesthetic at all, and thats where most of the money is spend. you can have 10/10 style aesthetics with extremely minimalistic and timeless clothing. you just need the right stuff to look put together, feminine, and clothing needs to be body conturing and classy at the same time. If you have significantly more clothing than men who are well dressed, you are doing something wrong. anything else is a waste of money and consu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:55 AM
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But they are claiming they are doing it for men and claim it to be effort they do for them though. I know they are doing it to impress women, but that works by signaling to other women to be more attractive looking to men and have more power over them, so they are doing what other women perceive as attractive to men, so they actually need to perceive the dressing up as attractive to men, and regardless of them not doing it for their man or a particular man, they are still doing it because they p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:48 AM
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I agree with your definitions of moral and immoral...but do you see what you're doing as moral behavior? Generalizing and black and white thinking is absolutely a type of dysfunctional behavior. no, its the most virtuous thing ever provided it is accurately judged to be black and white. most things are either black or white. Moral is to recognize it, be confident in your judgement, and act on the the negative implications it might have to prevent them from happening. Thats what helps the collect…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:41 AM
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This is so hilariously hypocritical: Im getting so sick and tired of guys here justifying cheating with the excuse" They are net getting enough sex at home" You just did the exact same thing you wanted to criticize: You basically said men cheat when they can just because they can, and in the same breath excused women cheating with shes not getting enough romantic attention Both men and women can have bad and excusable reasons alike, and the excusable ones are both mentioned above. However, women…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:14 AM
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This clearly is true. It just shows their hypocrisy and biological order they are brainwashed to deny. Womens evolutionary survival mechanism is being fully dependent on men for food, shelter and protection by being specialized in birthing and socializing. The balancing mechanism that grants them power over men to balance this out is them being much more sexually attractive on average and trigger males to give them stuff. women instinctively sense this to be their only power, they naturally defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:44 AM
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you did not address the topic. This isnt about attraction, its about male attention being currency to women. Thats what this is about. that the only reason women care much more about aging than men is because of them instinctively knowing through observation that old women dont get the attention, and attention from men is women psychological life line, and thats why they are so troubled by loosing it. Its about the hypocrisy of women denying the wall, and even worse denying that they depend on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:38 AM
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I have to disagree on the male part. You are not taking into account that men are not actually attracted by women having male hobbies, I d rather have them have different ones because of polarity and it making them more feminine, and most of the cost for clothing and maintenance like make up is a complete waste of money and time. men arent looking for women who have lost of outfits and are fashionable, which is what consumes most of the money, aswell as beauty products that are useless. The actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:28 PM
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not quite. extremely low ranking women like <3 will have less overall value than men, while 3-7 will advantage women, and 8-10 the man, with the peak differences being the middle ranks, which is most people, being advantageous to women, and the very high and low ranks men, assuming we just judge by looks and assume the and average non sexual skillset for each gender. if we were to plot womens and mens value on a y axis and their looks level from 1-10, we would get an exponentially increasing fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:59 AM
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no, unattractive women have it still easier than unattractive men, however there outcomes in life are generally worse. The thing is that societal value is derived from biological value for human coexistence, which society is the extension of. You mentioned that they are "given less opportunity", which in itself shows the problem here: men earn their opportunities, while women get them handed to them for looking good. the flip side of this is that if they are not good looking, they will be judged…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:35 AM
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It literally is the definition of logic and scientific method.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:22 AM
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says more about your attractiveness level than anything else. and no, people who fuck often are not awkward with someone they don’t really know because they lost the physical distance you normally feel because they have been fucked by so many different people. its
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:08 AM
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the fact that it logically makes sense is the proof in itself. just saying I dont believe it isnt an argument nor an explanation. go ahead and explain to me why men and women behave the way they do then. Until you successfully do that, the evolutionary explanation is the only option and has to be assumed as true, because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 06:06 AM
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women will suffer way more than I ever will once they hit 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:00 AM
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lol, nobody is gonna deal with you. your aggressiveness proves you havent had attention for years. I wonder what you look like. I bet you would be mute in real life. likely overweight and middle aged, and no man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:58 PM
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Women already fucked humanity over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:46 PM
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Nothing is more relevant that bodycount today. If we could accurately track this, I would bet my life on it being the number one factor for unsuccessful outcomes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:42 PM
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they are horrible, nasty people like you. Scream and cry and offend all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:40 PM
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No you dont, you are just trying to shame men for having a backbone. It wont work. Id rather die alone than waste my life on someone who is guaranteed to fuck my life up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:34 PM
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Doesnt work. you might be trolling, but you cant fake awkwardness. Emotions are impulsive, you would come off as calculating and cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:31 PM
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Confidence is misleading. they are looking for leadership, and dominant behavior. confidence is neutral and passive. what they get turned on by is being subtly dominated and made to feel like women, meaning weak, lesser and protected. and it has to be actively targeting them to force that feeling onto them, with you being perceived as manly, dominant and above they deny it, but do it if you can and it will work out in your favor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:11 PM
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yes, Im a man, take my word for it then. nobody pays massive amounts of money and risks that much if he doesnt want it. The horror stories that get told about men not caring exclusively comes from lower class men who didnt want to have children and had to pay for them by the women talking them into it or getting them as a necessity or for financial benefits. The only way I would abandon children is if I got someone pregnant I didnt want to be with for life by accident and committing to this woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:58 PM
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Lol come off it. Society isn't perfect but men get away with abuse all the fucking time. no. what kind of abuse men do will not get punished if caught? Amber heard sucks, we all get that. But most rapists never go to prison, doesnt matter because they are not being caught. if they were caught they would get punished though, so they are not getting away with it, hes just lucky he wasnt caught most states allow domestic abusers to get custody of kids and private visitation, etc. So come off it. th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:48 PM
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no, because despite women being much more overweight on average, its not enough to counteract the simping. Also, where I live, most young people are not overweight. Seeing young overweight people is an exception for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:31 PM
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wtf ? Its the opposite. society allows women to be abusive, and shames men into submissive push overs. are you nuts? this society basically worships women and demonizes men. where is the equivalent of the feminist propaganda to men? men literally are canceled for holding women accountable for mistreatment and women can talk about cutting mens dicks off and laughing about it in live TV without anything happening, because its the governments agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:19 PM
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nobody else even offered an explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:13 PM
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yes, because its to rare to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:11 PM
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every scientific truth is unprovable in nature, yet we accept logical proof based on assumptions as truth. the laws of physics also rely on assumptions. what makes the difference is them being a logical explanation and no contradictions or better explanations. thats identical to my proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:05 PM
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the raw truth nobody wants to speak out load is that women actually like to be raped by the men they find attractive. Women frequently have rape fantasies, and actively demand actions that simulate rape, like choking, pulling hair, pushing her around, being degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:00 PM
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no. fucking yes, but not relationship. I can only invest in a future with one person, anything else is honestly just a waste of time energy and resources. If I was the most attractive dude on this planet, I would still have 1 LTR to commit to, and fuck other women periodically for fun, but without any invested effort. For a man there is just no benefit to spending time on multiple women outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:56 PM
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Your not that old. you can easily find a man, you just wont get the older version of the best men you could have gotten if you were 25. Unless you are looking for a top percent men, you wont have and issue, given how many men are single. I assume you are not promiscuous, and not a single mother, and dont have a weird body or face. It really depends on your attractiveness, but generally, if you aim for a man who accurately matches your true realistic level, you wont have a problem, and will still…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:39 PM
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no its sad that you are unable to understand this. Its not very complex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:32 PM
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not if the women talked a man into it who didnt want to, and this happens frequently. Men dont leave their children if they wanted them. this doesnt happen at all. notice that the scenario you mentioned almost exclusively happens with lower class people, who often get children without wanting to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:31 PM
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Men killing anyone is completely unrelated to the topic. And yes, at least the women who get beaten actively cause the man to get angry. You have no idea how enfuriating womens behavior can be, especially when you depend on them and she constantly acting out inhibits a peaceful life, and no matter what you say or do, they continue to act out like children, and cooperation becomes impossible. thats when men loose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:27 PM
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These kinds of attacks are nothing but a signal of mental health issues and low self esteem. In real life, you would be scared to argue with me because you cant make sense and would only ridicule yourself. if you talked like you did here, Id just punch you in the face and you would cry and play victim. What kind of pathetic existence is this? I bet you are bitter, ugly af and nobody wants you, because if you were valuable, you wouldn’t have that much hate and anger towards a civil discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:22 PM
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no, its logic. yes its also speculation, but the direction is clear and therefore valid. I dont need to look at a thermometer to realize the stove is hot when I burn my finger touching it. I might speculate about its temperature, but its still clearly hot, because it hurts. Is it that difficult to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:13 PM
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no it doesnt. Nobody can cheat if the person remains faithful, but if I decline her offer, shes gonna fuck someone else eventually. I dont influence the outcome of the family, she does. also I dont need to put strangers before myself, especially in a society where people are actively helping the government to enslave and kill us off. I dont owe people who actively contribute to this mess, and this means most people, and almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:10 PM
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Most of what you say makes sense, however there is a huge logical contradiction. And that is the duality of money and being loyal to the family, which I tried to explain to you in every comment in made. It doesnt make sense to seperate the money from being loyal, because the man literally only gets the family for his money at most. how can his money be more important? if it was, he wouldn’t pay these massive amount to finance family. so if the man does it, he already cares more about it than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:58 PM
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you seem to forget that society brainwashes women do be malicious and selfish and excuses bad behavior. men get hold accountable and get punished for stuff they dont deserve, and are judged harshly for anything. clearly the result is that there are exponentially more abuse women than men. you cant have extreme propaganda to incentivize women to be abusive without it having an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:48 PM
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that doesnt disprove that the women is responsible for the seperation. just because the man isnt paying doesnt mean he broke of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:44 PM
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yes it does. I provided an explanation. you said you dont believe it despite my explanation, which is only valid with an alternierend logical explanation that I can not counter and rule out myself. you didnt offer any explanation yourself. not believing it is not a valid argument, nor is it a counter argument, not does it explain the body count issue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:40 PM
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because most men have no self respect and are simps, raised to put up with abuse, and we have propaganda everywhere to incentivize women to be abusive, and society does not punish women for being abusive, and most women have never been disciplined in their life, so they frequently become abusive if the men is a push over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 04:36 PM
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alimony is marriage + more payment. If you argue for something that is more of the same, you are implicitly arguing for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:00 PM
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how can I participate in something that I cant influence? the problem isnt the sex, the problem is the women agreeing to it and cheat. Im not influencing the womens decision to be faithful, she is responsible for what she does, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:59 PM
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no. It only can happen if the women wants to. If I dont have the power to decide if she is faithful to her husband, its not on me, and I cant because that depends on her wanting it, not on me wanting it. if she doesnt want to, nothing happens. I have nothing to do with what the women decides to do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:57 PM
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Im not cheating when I buy a stolen product. Thats why its not a crime. I cant know that, and even if I do, its not my problem because Im not cheating nor am I violating any law or contract, the seller does and gets the punishment alone. I cant be cheating when I am not married to this person. I dont owe the husband anything. the women does. only she violated the contract, and is fully responsible for it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:53 PM
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no, because you cant do that without the womens consent. unless you raped her or blackmailed her, its all her fault. you dont have responsibility for someone elses life. the women has. you dont decide to just fuck her and ruin the family. you cant, unless she decides to do it, so she alone is fully responsible, because if she doesnt want to, you dont have the power to ruin it against her will. Its ridiculous to have remorse about this. the women broke the family by agreeing. It all depends on he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:48 PM
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lol what? they haven’t challenged anything, because their points did not counter mine, while I effectively countered all of theirs. So far, I have never read anyone arguing with me here actually formulate a single valid argument. women just do not know how arguments and debates work. they just talk without adressing points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:43 PM
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We are talking about psychological abuse, this isnt trackable but is the reason women abuse way more. of course they are not gonna beat each other, but that’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:39 PM
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lol. Your about feelings. Im about logical prove and the scientific method. its not proven in a philosophical sense, but its the only logical explanation that makes sense, thats why it is valid because there is no alternative that logically can explain any of this. thats how the scientific method works. I have a theory that logically explains real world behavior. until you provide an alternative theory that offers a logical explanation to the topic, you have to assume the only explanation as tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:32 PM
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yes I am, the key point the the murderers being rare, and female promiscuity, entitlement and selfishness being common, which lead to the destruction of families.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:25 PM
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no. you argued for marriage, I argued against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:24 PM
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yes, and thats because the mother left the father, which is why its the womens fault. Men leave just as much as they did for decades, the only thing that changed is women getting entitled , selfish and delusional and leaving to hoe around or think they can do better. The fact that the number of people who do not have a relationship with their father is so much higher than it was some decades ago and rising is because of what changed in recent times, and men still behave like they did, while wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:19 PM
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are you unable to understand that a group of people can not be defined by the actions of few individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:04 AM
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prenups are not absolut protection and can be dismissed. Im not going to argue if this is common or not, it doesn’t matter, the potential is there and the legal system against me per default. Why risk it and sign a legal document that has zero benefit for me? What is the point of potentially risking my life for a piece of paper that is nothing except the potential to ruin my life? If there is no benefit for me, why would I do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:00 AM
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your original comment I responded to stated that "men are more about their money than the family".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:56 AM
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your original comment I responded to stated that "men are more about their money than the family".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:56 AM
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lol, as if 70 percent wasnt equally bad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:54 AM
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thats rare and only is done by men who never wanted children and got talked into it. Women however leave despite wanting them because they take them with them, and causing mental issues for robbing the child of the father role, because they are selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:49 AM
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denying it is pathetic. we literally have mass propaganda everywhere to incentivize women to not have families, be selfish, and be hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:47 AM
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not if logically there is no other ways. humans instinctual algorithms are immutable and necessary inhibit large group living, unless you set up rules, which everyone wants to follow. No monogamy means the group will be smaller, less efficient, and will be easily outcompeted and conquered by the bigger tribes that have monogamy. Its as absolut as people needing oxygen. Its an absolut necessity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:44 AM
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not by divorce, but by womens behavior towards relationships, men, family and selfishness. divorce is just a symptom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:38 AM
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you can not prove me wrong though, and I logically proved that Im right. this is how debate works. you lost. you cant just say your wrong. Thats not how debating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:31 AM
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yes, because one is so common that its representative of a group of people, and the other one is so rare that it is not. 0,00000000000001% of men being killers is not representative of most men, so there is no responsibility. the issues women create apply to enough women to completely dictate the dating and mental health landscape of the entire generation, so that is as representative as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:17 AM
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I dont engage with people who use personal attacks in an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:12 AM
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The laws purpose is to keep families and people broken, so that they can be easily controlled, have the next generation fucked up and being indoctrinated at a young age, and maximize exploitation by causing most of the earned money to go back into the economy instead of staying in families. Also people are not getting together and paying 2x the rent, need 2x the electricity, drive up cost of living and decrease earnings, and keep people spend a lot on consumerism, and collapse the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:07 AM
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What you consider "fine" isn't relivant to people living in these situations. What's "fine" for you may be hell for someone else. Your personal comfort isn't the standard for human relationships. It is meant to apply to both, and typically men can take way more discomfort and are not as emotionally fragile. Lol sure. Lesbian relationships are mirror reflections of hetero relationship dynamics. they still make it evident that women do most of the abuse and cheating Women are really failing in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:03 AM
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I think men can handle a whole lot more imperfection in a relationship than women can. Therefore they choose to keep the highly imperfect relationship and their paycheck. and how exactly is this not noble and morally superior? Give men a marriage where they lose nothing upon divorce and youll see a whole lot more men divorcing over the bad behavior of their wives. Wouldnt change much because they still have payed massive amounts of money and time to make it happen, even if there was no marriage,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:56 PM
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Women are the first to suggest therapy, men don't wanna go. doesnt mean its the solution to the problem Women will literally tell men exactly what they want, which Is usually just a date night and help around the house, nd men will literally act clueless. because its unreasonable Also, men cheat more in relationships lol. So men uo around more. how can they cheat more when they have less options and are not hypergamous? women cheat far more, most men dont have the ability to cheat, and any male …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:37 PM
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casual sex is an accomplishment for men but not for women, because its hard and valuable for men and easy and damaging for women. a man having casual sex means he is of value, because otherwise he wouldn’t be able to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:27 PM
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stop deflecting. its about women leaving despite everything being fine, thats most cases. And women abuse more than men. The fact that lesbian divorce and abuse rates are the highest proves that women are responsible for most of both
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:26 PM
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No I'm saying they don't care about their family as much as not decimating their paychecks every month. Start seeing women become breadwinners across the board and you'll see fewer women filing for divorce. Not sure why this is controversial. because its nonsensical. If men care more about the paycheck, they wouldn’t spend it. If they do, they care. since return on investment for men means happy family, caring for their money in this sense is synonymously with caring about the family. them carin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:23 PM
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That women are the cause of all the societal issues, because they cause all the broken families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:12 PM
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No, that women break off families because they are selfish and literally the cause. they break up because they want to divorce rape and hoe around, at the expense of their children. these women get children as a form of life ensurrance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:11 PM
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tribal people have monogamy and marriage like contracts. you can only have polygamy in a group small enough to a point where the leading men can physically fight off the weaker ones. that might work in groups of 10-20 when everyone needs each others skills to survive collectively. In tribes its impossible though because the top men are massively outnumbered and not needed for survival, so there will be violence. monogamy is around since the beginning of history, long before any religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:08 PM
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women are significantly more likely to be responsible for breaking the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:04 PM
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no, it applies to every man, even average. Its just not gonna have statistical significance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:02 PM
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I've long said that I think men are more loyal to their resources than to their families. They don't divorce because why should they? To them, marriage and family are an investment more than a relationship. this is such ridiculous and logically contradictory statement. you basically said "they dont care about the family BECAUSE they try to keep it together ". are you on drugs or something? As for dead bedrooms.... people need to understand that monogamy is a two way behavior: no sex with other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:59 PM
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even when it becomes evident that women are in the wrong, you still find a way to blame men for being good. maybe men have sense of responsibility for children, something women have lost completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:50 PM
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sounds like your bitter af for some reason. there is no reason to be so unreasonable and combative otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:48 PM
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lol people might fuck you, but thats all what you are good for. If we remove sex, you are nothing and nobody would know you or any other women existed. you cant even feed yourself without the technology men build. everything you touch, know and use is created, invented and maintained by only men. women can not do that at all. technically, you are a parasite, thats negative value. the only reason you are not send to war is because you are actively counterproductive, meaning that 10 male and one f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:42 PM
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I did, you just behave like a malfunctioning robot who is unable to recognize cause and effect and fails to recognize proof as such
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:31 PM
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lol you are trying to deflect. Its about the most likely. just because some women like that found some looser who still married her doesnt mean it is representative. you know that, this is manipulative on your part to even bring it up. I could say there are ugly men getting with hot women who are insecure against all rules, and that would not in the slightest challenge the rules. so you get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:29 PM
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lol its a necessity for large scale human society to exist. It was religiously protected for thousands of years for a good reason, alongside gender roles and nuclear family. remove it, everything breaks. look where we are after like 3 decades only, and its gonna get exponentially worse until people are so poor and economy so bad that they are forced to be monogamous just to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:42 PM
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women initiate divorce 80 percent of the time, that alone should tell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:40 PM
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well Im gonna leave it there, I explained it multiple times, but you act as if you can’t understand it. fine. Its your problem, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:37 PM
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its the number one selection factor, and its by far the most shallow one, even worse than money. even a ugly guy can fuck a hot girl if he is popular. the opinion of other people is the most important thing ever to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:28 PM
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regardless of what they want they have no other choice. want a better man? choose older. want a younger man? choose less attractive. women above 30 cant get attractive men that age, and the disparity continues to grow. apparently women dont dislike them more than men dislike old women, forcing women to comply. you dont control how men value things, and they value youth more than women, and want the peak attractiveness, while women want their age. Dont you see how that results in older men gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:13 PM
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my calculation fits observation of behavior. You cant have so many men be simps and women be that entitled without a huge disparity in options. and same body count means same options, which is clearly the opposite of the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:09 PM
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not with the currents laws. these only benefit women. It used to be good before no fault, alimony and so on. and women used to be realistic. there were no single mothers who divorced after decades to be hoes for one more year and then die alone. this is new since social media, and again only applies to women. men used to get married before these changes, so it’s obvious what needs to change. wanna get married? encourage women to rally to abolish the laws that privilege them. Otherwise men wont r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:04 PM
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there is a huge difference. otherwise women would not have the luxury to reject men who are objectively better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:02 PM
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lol its not about morality. there is a case to be made about morality, but keep in mind that we used to have a society that was more moral and prevented hook ups and all this trauma. but guess who rebelled against it do have sex whenever? women, despite them being protected the most by it. There is a simple solution: women stop promiscuity. you cant blame men for taking the offer. Its the womens fault and their responsibility to fix it. stop being hoes, than men cant sleep with you. me. wont sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 04:01 PM
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the legal agreement only makes sense when both people spend the same , invest the same , and without change. I want family , and I dont want the government to raise my children, they need their mother to be with them, and I rather have the women take care of children and house, so that I can just focus on increasing the money. It makes much more sense, because people specializing on a task is together more efficient that both doing both, especially when our bodies are biologically specialized fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:55 PM
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your judgement is worthless if you have no explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:43 PM
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how often do I have to tell you that it doesnt matter at all what women prefer. Even if they do prefer men their age, they wont get those once they reach 30, unless they go for lesser men, because the male preference is for youth, and is much more unforgiving, meaning the men who can will date as young as possible, and since the female preference for their own age is weaker than the preference for other varying attractiveness features and the mans preference for age stronger, the top men will st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:39 PM
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yes, but if most of the numbers are concentrated around the top men but evenly for the women, the average women still has a much higher number than the average man, and that still produces a huge disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:33 PM
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I dont want to marry anyone. I dont sign a onesided contract. Why does a women need me to have resources before starting a family? she doesnt. there should be no problem for the women to get with a person who doesnt have shit but is heading towards a good future when children have to wait until the resources are there. If she cares, shes a gold digger and doesnt care about safety, only about a lifestyle, and I dont need someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:32 PM
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you forget that there is no drawback to sex for men, only gain. You cant call it trashy when it does not have the negative consequences for the men, and the men dont need to care about womens lifes and societal implications until women stop being selfish. there would be no fucked up women if women would refuse to sleep with men without committing like it used to be. since men dont suffer from fucking, women are to blame for not having self control, not men, because men dont have the negative con…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 03:28 PM
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"modern science" is largely unscientific, and completely politically motivated, especially when it comes to sexes. Anything contradicting the woke marxist narrative is silenced. "modern science" is like a religious cult when it comes to certain topics, and remains perfectly scientific until it contradicts the narrative of the woke media. then people are shamed, attacked, offended and silenced, and face extreme verbal manipulation to try to dismiss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:59 AM
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Yes, obviously the only reason why a man wouldn't want to get married, or a woman would, is money. Marriage isn't about money. yes it is. its literally just a sign on a paper and rights on property. Anything other than that is the same as a normal LTR. Most people marry those who earn roughly the same as them, not really. and roughly the sand net worth, with men earning slightly more. people who earn the same can have completely different neth worths. women do not retain their money, men retain …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:53 AM
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You know nothing about me to even get a clue.. I see my side of the street and you see yours. You know what's selfish to want women to carry birth and then to pause her life to stay home and care for the child essentially eliminating the cost of child care you know, women are supposed to raise children, not the government. Also what am I providing a house and resources for? the women lives entirely off of me when she is at home with children. She taking care of them equates to me providing WHILE…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:42 AM
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Women who whine about being single have outrageously high standards. Take Charlize Theron. She's beautiful, and even with her adopted black children that are a massive turn off for normal men, she still has millions of guys who would pay HER to lick her feet. Then she whines "why is no one sucking it up and marrying me?" Because she rejects every guy who wants to. Women have zero problem with getting any type of attention from men. no. they can just get sexual attention. no man is gonna marry a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:22 AM
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no, I happen to actually be able to think rationally. you dont
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:16 AM
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lol, so you are genetic waste because you cant lock down a hot rich guy then by your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:15 AM
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another way of saying "I don’t believe in logic because it makes me feel bad". that’s literally unaccountable. If you didnt care you would have just accepted the explanation, but instead you didnt. you can not just sit here and say "I have no argument for my point of view, don’t believe yours despite being logical and elaborate and hold onto my point of with with no argument, no counter argument, nothing to substantiate your view and still believe what I want to" thats the definition of not bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:12 AM
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The point is trading in her youth for the best possible long term life in terms of the mans commitment. Its okay to age when you still had her when she was young and has children young when egg cells are fresh. dont get all butthurt. I did not at all say "useless after 20". I said loose sexual value with age after peak, which is 23-25. Sex isnt the only value a women has I would commit to, and all the non physical value remains the same, she can still be fun to be around, can still cooperate wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 09:02 AM
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We're talking about desire and SMV, though. not exclusively. Originally, it was about the observation of girls choosing older men than them, and the leverage changing in the mans direction with age. and like I said, its more like men loose interest with female age faster than women loose interest in men, in fact if women look for men even their own age, when they hit 30, the same age men who can will get with younger women, because mens age is has not nearly that kind of an impact in a womens mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:51 AM
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yes it is. men are hardwired by nature to fuck as much as possible to maximize chances of reproductive success. women maximize their chances by finding the best guy possible because they can not be pregnant from multiple men at the same time, cant be provided for by multiple men and cant have children from different men in nature without the stronger male killing the other male and his offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:25 AM
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I dont want them to be religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:23 AM
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no, because they are hoes and they know its rightfully judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:19 AM
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thats just not reality. If every women would get commitment, you would not have all the single aged promiscuous women whining about being single. but they do. and if promiscuous men would struggle they would complain. but they dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:47 PM
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the thing is youthfulness is valued more than in men, especially youthful tight collagen rich skin, which rapidly declines after 25. This is connected to hormones lowering, and is what causes the loss in attractiveness, a long side enthusiastic behavior getting lost, hair loossing their texture, lips flattening etc which are all dimorphic features. On top of that you have body count, trauma, life experience with is inherently bad, and the rapid decline of egg cell quality, which is exponentially…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:37 PM
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no they dont. there is no way to measure this because women lie about the number. asking them is worse than just guessing. men are inflating their numbers, women are downplaying it. if that was the case, nobody would complain. reality is that like a third of all men are incels, while average women can have relationships and sex immeadiately, so their needs to be a huge disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:16 PM
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acting is not promiscuity, and even these women will have relationships but have many bfs, and never happy LTRs until old age. and porn stars and hoes do not get any commitment, they might get fucked by low quality men, but there is no reward, and they are just used, and not given a relationship at all, because there is zero investment, zero emotions, zero connection
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:11 PM
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If that was the case, men would not mind to get married, and there would be no complains about it, and women would have no reason to want marriage without children, but they do. all your claims function on the premise that they earn roughly the same, but most men earn more, and the better looking the girl the bigger the difference. Also you didnt mention ownership of property. a man can earn the same as a women but their net worth usually varies massively, with women spending almost all their mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:04 PM
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Okay, so sex and attraction isn't just about looking at pretty naked women then. Looks may be primary and sufficient for some men, for others it isn't, I know it's hard for some people to realise attraction works differently for others of the same gender. its not that different. The core functionalities are identical for every man I'm saying it was pretty damn obvious what they were doing, but apparently only your evidence counts. your evidence counts just as much, but your still missing the log…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:56 PM
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they are not getting relationships though and die alone with their money. money for prostitution isnt a reward, because it comes at a huge cost and net negative. and the men paying for this stuff are simps who never get anything. so sub 4 men paying for promiscuous stuff doesnt mean men these women want reward the behavior. they are not paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:33 PM
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It's still extremely uncommon though. I'm really not sure why it's so difficult for men to grasp the fact that the majority of young women aren't interested in older men. because you never see women desire men younger than them at any age, while men desire the same age range. The few examples of old or middle aged men being able to leverage their resources and pull young women, doesn't mean young women are actually attracted to older men. Leveraging resources =/= genuine desire. doesnt matter. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:27 PM
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It must be mutually beneficial if they are so willingly setting themselves up to have half their shit stolen. Why then do they then sign up for 18 years of financial responsibility tied to those same women. lol no, they are just delusional. do you not see that loosing money does not equal getting money? seriously, why are women impossible to reason with? Why cant you just admit the society worships women and discriminates men in every way possible? I suspect because you want to hold onto your pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:17 PM
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If men just liked looking at pretty naked women, they'd just watch porn and not bother with anything else. actual sex is more dimensional and more satisfying on many levels I know most men care about more than that, although I'm aware some outliers don't care very much. there are other things, but looks are primary and sufficient on their own to want to get physical. I just said I acutely observed these men acutely developing actual crushes and asking women out, but apparently my experience does…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:13 PM
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Maybe when money is involved.. but that also depends on who makes more money most married men make more money than their wives. if children are involved then how are the responsibilities shared. Gender roles are not entirely the norm anymore. If one partner works and the other cares for the children then should that person deserves financial security should they split. yes, but it has to be proportional to what is needed to just survive, and needs to stop once the child is old enough to go to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:07 PM
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the actual outcome of almost any divorce is the man paying, because he earns more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:54 PM
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doesnt matter, you are not admitting that marriage entirely benefits the women at the mans expense, and that its therefore selfish to want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:11 PM
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why does my bank account matter? Its about marriage severely benefitting women and disadvantaging men. what does that have tondo with my bank account? This is not about me, its about marriage and society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:09 PM
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No, you are just unaccountable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:09 PM
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Listen, all we need to see is women typically choosing men who are some years older, 5-10 years difference is not uncommon but only goes one way. women clearly do have a preference foe men being older than them, and more experienced than them, which is related.nobody talks about old men, but definitely men significantly older than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:07 PM
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There's no biological value to older men either. Aside from the fact that the majority of older men don't gain any significant leverage over the majority of younger men anyway, older men are also inferior to procreate with due to lowered sperm count and quality. Nobody claims men gain in looks with age, although their peak is mid 30s which is 10 years later than women. women just loose the massive advantage they have when young and get left with comparatively less attractive power. Although men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:05 PM
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again, its about women loosing more attractiveness with age because youthfulness is valued way higher in women, not men gaining anything physically. together with men gaining financially, it shifts the power towards men. the only reason young women have so much power over young men is because of their youth being valued more. a middle aged women simply does not trigger the feelings a young women does, the loss of attractiveness is much more on the female side, and therefore it is as if he would …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:58 PM
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Its not about belief. this is an undeniable fact. You can choose to accept it or pretend its not there, but that doesnt remove the negative attributes from high n women and wont get men to act against their instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:54 PM
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The man doesn't get punished, the breadwinner/non-custodial parent gets punished. which is almost always the man, stop being evasive If these two people divorced, nobody would get punished only if they earned the same, but most men earn more than their wives, and if there is children, she definitely earns much less, preferably nothing, so your argument is invalid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:53 PM
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men dont loose as much as women though, because much of their power when young comes from being young, despite the men also being young. Its just biologically not valued the same even though its just aging. youth does not give a man additional points like it does for women, and instead money and career adds points to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:48 PM
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leave me alone robot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:46 PM
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notice how you try to personally attack me for pointing out that marriage is onesided. you only care about your own benefit, thats the only way you can be butthurt about this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:45 PM
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no, because men and women have different biologically assigned motivations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:42 PM
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stop deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:41 PM
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it is about the difference in motivations making it different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:37 PM
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lol your lying to my face. prove it. what are they doing to reward/punish them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:29 PM
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You're assuming attraction is just based on looks for a start, and those looks are noticed right away, that’s literally how male attraction works. Men dont function like women. your attraction doesnt work like that, but the male one definitely does. If it didn’t, there would be no porn. Maybe it's a coincidence in the case of women being into taken men as well! Trust me, women don't work like that. I'd ghost a flirtatious man who was taken immediately. See the problem with your logic? no I dont …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:28 PM
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Relationship with commitment is not normal. yes it is, but its irrelevant to this topic. Women take advantage through divorce, not marriage. marriage provides the ability to divorce. It's only usage without commitment. okay, where is my commitment, what does she commit to me beyond a relationship? This has nothing to do with nuthin. yes it is. you talk as if you thought womens time was more valuable, or you cant understand the difference between paying lots of money vs paying zero Quite the oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:21 PM
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Well, that would be in the case of divorce. doesnt matter. what matters is that the men gets punished in both cases and the women wins in both, regattas who leaves or mistreats. So he wants an out right away without consequences, he wants to be able to break up whenever he wants, lol, cant she leave without any consequences too, doesnt that apply to her as well? maybe even wants to be able to blackmail her. what is he blackmailing her with both can leave without penalty? She can't take half his …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:12 PM
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You really think that men don't change their perception of women? That they're either attracted or unattracted forever? sort of. there is some room for change in perception of women who are just not pretty enough to cause desire, but who you would not be physically repulsive. But you cant go from attractive to not attractive unless you cut your hair too short, and if your unattractive you cant be attractive unless the unattractiveness is exclusively because of body fat that gets lots. You must n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:00 PM
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no, it means he doesnt want to sign a document that allows the women to steal half his stuff whenever she wants, and blackmail him with leaving and having to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:37 PM
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lol. Men can not take advantage of women just by having a normal relationship. women on the other hand are allowed to take advantage of men through marriage. Its disturbing that you label having a relationship as usage, as if you being there is worth more than him. actually his nonsexual attention, which is a relationship is worth more than you being there. Only your sex is worth more than his, and I could make a case that relationship already benefits women more than men. this is classic: "equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:35 PM
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This is all about you. what benefits is he getting from being married to you instead of being a gf? nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:31 PM
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you do not put in anything, only he does. he loses money if you divorce, and you win. you loose nothing and gain something. You cant complain about security or commitment when marriage offers no security to the man and instead shifts all the power to you. marriage is completely onesided. Its actually a red flag to push for marriage, because it shows that you are selfish and care about you at the expense of him. You could leave him, and you would get payed. he would leave you, you would get payed…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:23 PM
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I provided evidence, you said you just trust someone else and pretend its true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:23 PM
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by your logic, we would have to believe anyone and anything, just because they say trust me. dont you get how absurd this is? what stops a papers author from intentionally lying? nobody, instead it’s incentivized. also the fucking conclusion they draw is unrelated to what they claimed to observe, so its just a lie even if the observation is not a lie, and in any case its false. Im right because I can see it with my own eyes. you can’t because you dont, and rely on trusting someone else. and if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:21 PM
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the wall has nothing to do with people aging in itself, its the loss of attractiveness in women with age which is unproportional to men because their attractiveness is in a large part directly linked on youthfulness, and women physically cant get children once they hit a certain age, while men can still do it. the leverage shifts in the mans favor, because instead of having to compete with all the older men like when men are young, the women now have to compete with all the younger women, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:16 PM
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You got it wrong. Men dont get more attractive physically with age, but women loose attractiveness and therefore men become relatively more attractive once women age, and men gain money, competence and leadership abilities that improve attractiveness. Its not about the physical, but still most women will have slightly older men than themselves, indicating that its a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:10 PM
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but they didnt change their behavior abruptly, without having contact in between with that woman. also how do you know the guy wasn’t interested before? men dont change their perception of women. Its possible that the guy didnt want her specifically, engaged with her and then wanted her specifically, but it cant be that he just didnt want her before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:58 PM
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you cant google search stats about this because there is no way to track promiscuity and cheating, and all the stats rely on the people to be truthful, and women are guaranteed to be lying about this stuff, so there is no way to collect data. The only way we can judge it is by looking at women who have sex and many bfs often, and analyze their behavior. and that shows these women to be selfish, mentally troubled and careless people who have no concerns for the man and cant bond, and thats why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:56 PM
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Just the answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:53 PM
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No. It CAN be a deal breaker but doesnt have to, depending on the severity, kind of issue, and way of dealing with it. If the persons behavior indicates poor chances of success to a point where it isnt realistic to expect a good outcome, it becomes a dealbreaker. someone with depression could have done undesirable stuff, but doesnt have to, also depression does not have anything to do with relationships, so there is no specific negative implication for cooperation. body count though directly ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:49 PM
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no, you just didn’t understand mine. bad doesnt refer to survival, because survival instincts are optimized for small groups not large scale society. bad means bad for large scale peaceful coexistence. Technically, caring for children and wanting to have sex is a much of a survival instinct as killing, raping and stealing, but some lead to bad outcomes for the collective even though it promotes survival of the individual in nature. being repulsed by body count doesnt threaten the collective, ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:46 PM
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These guys had a lot of single women they could've chosen as options. But no, they wanted the taken ones. were these women just as good looking though? It's possible that because your girlfriend was there they knew there was no risk of their behaviour leading to anything, it's not like you got asked out. What? I said they started to behave towards me how women typically behave when they dig someone, and these same women did never do this before, and stopped doing it when I spoke with them months…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:37 PM
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This is your problem, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:27 PM
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no, because the motivation for casual sex is different in men and women, and most importantly, the potential for emotional damage through broken sexual intimacy is a uniquely female thing, because women bond with men through sex, but men dont bond with women through sex. thats why every body is a broken bond, even if the women never intended to. sex forces an emotional bond in women, and they automatically get attached to the guy and there is no way to prevent that, and repeatedly broken bonds c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:21 PM
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you are lying to my face. We observe what I said. A paper is not an observation, its just a claim
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:14 PM
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thats exactly what I meant though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:59 AM
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Men also had the "natural and biological" instinct to have sex with children, like girls as young as 9. I wouldn't use that as an argument. That has nothing to do with reproductive success. that isnt normal male behavior either. men like young women, but that refers to girls after they hit puberty to a point where the secondary sexual characteristics are there. and technically, girls are meant to fully be able to give birth at that age. men are not pedophiles, and do prefer women in their peak a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:59 AM
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Just because there are urges that are not conducive to society, doesnt mean that most arent either. most of them are good and to be followed and hold their value. Instincts are for survival. morality is also a group survival mechanism, and also an intuitive urge. Thats why they mostly are one and the same, but still its ultimately selfish and about survival, even selfless social behavior. You have no point at all, most instincts make logical sense and are conducive and productive for society. th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:48 AM
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mental health alone is not a deal breaker, because we all have issues somewhere. its the link to bad character attributes. high n count women equals using men, faking love, being careless, not being nurturing, not being feminine, not being able to cooperate or not wanting to cooperate with men. thats the deal breaker, not someone being troubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:40 AM
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I know that divorce can be caused by lost of things, but a promiscuous woman is guaranteed to cheat and guaranteed to use you because there is no way for women do have such high n counts without using their sexuality to manipulate and get validation, resources or what even from men. Its a sure way of telling a womens personality. The history of behavior of a woman like that is not being able or wanting to cooperate with men. its not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:38 AM
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I dont need to justify it. survival Instincts do not need justification. you are trying to remove universally inherently bad attributes from yourself trying to frame it as removable from negative consequences, but that wont work. being ugly does trigger not wanting sex. similarly, body count will trigger not wanting to commit, and not trigger relationship behavior. the only way to get around this is finding a man who doesn’t respect himself and does not trust his urges. and most of these men wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 AM
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so killing out of self defense and murder is morally the same? come on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:24 AM
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success of survival/reproduction/relationship/child raising
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:23 AM
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you are forgetting something. I cant just move to another country, because I dont want someone who is of a different ethnicity. Its pointless advice because its not what most men want and need. It is not a solution at all, you still need to find someone here and then move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:22 AM
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I said they change their behavior, and you admitted it. Of course they dont "loose" their sexuality in a literal sense, but its effectively the same because they are not looking for mates. You agreed with men without realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:17 AM
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Listen you just cant understand cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:56 AM
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You just cant be reasoned with. yes, we are biological robots, our hardware is basically identical, but the software depends on experience and this is what creates outward uniqueness. Its clear as day given that some many people have the exact same behavioral pattern. how do you think people predict human behavior so accurately? In recent times the truth has been purposefully distorted. there is not spectrum of anything, this is a propaganda tactic to justify dysfunctional and mentally ill behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:54 AM
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Lol you are lost af. I know what is going on, you are a clueless normie like most people who are fully plugged in the elites matrix, just like most people. The entire world we live in IS a conspiracy, its clear as day and hides in plain side to a point where it is too obvious for people to see. you are just another woke nut job who is hooked on group approval and the woke antiscientific narrative to keep you preoccupied with stupid stuff so that you can be programmed with cultist political propa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:46 AM
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Well in real life women reward male promiscuity and men punish female promiscuity. It doesn’t matter that women say they hate it. they are lying, because their behavior says otherwise. And men actually hate promiscuous women and do punish them in terms of not rewarding them with commitment. these women often are good looking though, which is why they are getting tons of attention. you cant judge this on attention because its sexually motivated. this isnt rewarding the behavior at all, its just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:37 AM
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No. hypocrisy means judging something differently that is the same. Outwardly similar behavior does not mean at all that its the same. A person could have killed somebody out of self defense or murdered somebody, and it’s completely different because the motivation is different, and the behavior needs to be judged differently despite it meaning someone killed someone else. thats why in court there is a difference, one get a huge punishment the other one get none because they deserve it based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:32 AM
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Why is it so hard to understand that this is not only logical, but also a primal evolutionary instinct? all these things have been in our culture for thousands of years because they are primal instincts and because the people understood it’s importance. thats why women were kept virgins. because they knew the behavior changes and reproductive success chances drop off exponentially with each body on the women. Its absurd to claim that this is just an arbitrary preference, given that it has been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 07:18 AM
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I get it from observing and engaging with mothers and comparing their body language, speech and behavior with single women. Thats bullet proof, and a pattern is rapidly found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:04 PM
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I dont need someone to tell me something and believe blindly like you. I observe, research, compare, draw logical conclusions with cause and effect, and eventually put the pieces together when there are no contradictions. Nobody else is needed. just my brain and curiosity. you on the other hand have been corrupted by the elites political agenda that flows through all parts of society. you are someone who blindly trusts and believes any group because of social proof, and cant think for yourself. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:03 PM
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Yes they are. But what’s also observable is that women are more competent leaders especially in crisis. Sorry that contradicts your delusions. A claim does not contradict anything because its just a claim, and one that you cant provide explanation for and that is opposed to the stuff you just admitted. Women also have hierarchies. not in the sense that they coordinate themselves in groups like men. Watch the episode from the bear grylls show survival men vs women. there you can see the men natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:55 PM
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healthy women loose their sexually somewhat after being mothers, especially shortly after. Mothers usually are concerned with the wellbeing of the child, and stop the toxic bs usually. Women with children usually have a distinct behavior compared to single women, all the weird selfconsciousness usually is gone, and shifts towards being more submissive and doing what the man says because of understanding responsibility. Of course this only applies to mentally healthy women, not the single mothers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:43 PM
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I get what your saying and completely agree, my point is that most women today especially attractive women do not think longterm because life is so fun for them that they perceive commitment and especially LTR towards family as limiting. Its not that I don’t believe they commit for potential. they certainly do, but its just rare to find an attractive women who sees value in getting together early for life. most young people do not think longterm, especially not family sadly, which is a big reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:37 PM
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mammalian hierarchies are observably all male men observably organize themselves in hierarchical groups with leaders, women do not. look what happens in places where there is no male leader and its run by women. chaos everywhere and no coordination, no lead, no structure. you can observe that all companies actually having real employees are founded by a man, and managed by a man. Thats observation. your delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:30 PM
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see? thats what I told you. That doesnt tell you anything more than that the guy liked the woman, and proceeded to try and did not respect the bf or thought hes better. But that does not indicate that he tried because the girl was taken, and showed more initiative when he heard she has a bf. I have noticed myself that women completely change their attitude towards me when a girl they assume is my gf is present, when other people look up to me, and anything regarding social proof. If have seen wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:24 PM
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Not all women have a "reactive" sexuality. yes they have. Its hardwired, just like men being attracted to the female image alone without. ask yourself why women get so much free attention and men have to work for any of it. The sexes have different biological hardware, and that functions identically in its core in all people of the same sex. Just like not all men go for meaningless sex. thats not sexuality. sexuality means what triggers attraction. male attraction is visual for all men, it has a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:18 PM
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Claiming "I observed some data, believe me" means nothing. you have to look outside and observe and see if it matches reality. And it doesnt. you don’t understand logic at all, you can’t understand cause and effect. and the data even if it is real is worthless because it doesnt logically lead to what they claim it leads to, but you would have to understand the topic to recognize its connectionless propaganda bullshit, but you lack the ability to judge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:53 PM
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Yes, but for the reasons I mentioned. men lust after promiscuous women because they are hot. they would lust after them even more if they were virgins. Also the promiscuous women often know extremely well what men respond to behaviorally because they have so much experience. but the fact that matters is that they are not rewarding the behavior, because they are not committing to them. but they would instantly throw themselves at the same women if she was a virgin, which shows thats they put thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:49 PM
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I dont have a tribe. you have. but you dont realize what is being done to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:41 PM
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papers are not observations of any kind, they are just meaningless statements by some organization that can be scientifically motivated, or like in this case politically. they are just a claim by someone who claims authority and who says trust me. these papers function on premises that are false, and/or draw completely illogical conclusions, which do not logically follow from their observation. the thing is people like you just trust them no matter how nonsensical, because these authorities rely…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:40 PM
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technically yes. modern media and political propaganda functions like being plugged into something like a matrix, which is clearly visible by the disconnect with observable reality and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:34 PM
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No, its biological. Men only care about shame when it involves them feeling powerless, emasculated and weak and incompetent, thats why shaming for emotionality works. Note that its only about being vulnerable and weak feelings. you wont ever get a man to feel shame for getting violent though, because its manly and makes men feel powerfull and in charge. shame only works if it hits a nerve. slut shaming works because women know its negative implications by instinct. otherwise it wouldn’t work. an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:29 PM
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no, the physical reality of how our bodies and humanity evolutionary works. your in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:59 PM
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Papers dont matter when they contradict reality. Its just bs propaganda. when you claim papers prove something that is so obviously wrong, it shows how out of touch with reality you are . I provided clear irrefutable proof of observable reality. yet you still go on about studies. What is wrong with you? you are brainwashed to treat some study which is just a claim from some bullshit authority. If it contradicts observable reality, its false. if it explains observable reality, it can be right, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:58 PM
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name examples from your life. I bet you misinterpreted it. you wont find any man who increased his effort once he knew the girl had a bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:50 PM
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You are nuts. I provided proof, and you keep asking for studies for stuff that is well known and easily observable like a mindless robot. do you have a brain? do you not understand how that is proof? Are you just a mindless robot asking for studies? wtf is wrong with you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:40 PM
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you cant really make peace with something inherently opposed and dangerous to relationships, especially when it has to be willingly controlled by the women and men know how impulsive women are. women would have to intentionally be reasonable, not act on natural urges, etc. and women have no self control, and are easily enslaved by their emotions. Its much easier for women to lie or to leave you for the hope of something better than them having the strength to not take the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:37 PM
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thats complete bs. men retreat when any clear disinterest is expressed. women however get more engaged the less you want or value them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:31 PM
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yes, thats reality. deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:24 PM
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the prove is all companies and hierarchical structures are male, male behavior being hierarchical and female one not, all higher mamalian hierarchies being male dominated, survival forcing the lead onto the male by necessity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:22 PM
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from common sense, observation of behavior, and evolutionary biology
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:21 PM
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because your not a man. Its a natural male instinct to be repulsed by it and instantly label the women "for fun only", because its equates to carelessness, being manipulative and faking attraction for shallow things like money or attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:19 PM
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no, because its tied to negative character attributes. Its a direct proxy to select against mental illness, carelessness, manipulativeness, etc. Its unnatural for women to behave that way, thats why these are predictable through n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:17 PM
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It is because its hard. having power over women is admirable, because its rare given the simping and options they have when being so connected
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:15 PM
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your dumb af. men would love to have all these sexual options and be shamed about it because it doesnt matter to us not to women. women and promiscuous is bad and it is rightfully judged, and this judgement is a natural instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:13 PM
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your dumb af. men would love to have all these sexual options and be shamed about it because it doesnt matter to us not to women. women and promiscuous is bad and it is rightfully judged, and this judgement is a natural instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:13 PM
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In case you didnt notice, most men need to have resources first to be taken seriously. Also I would like to get together as early as possible without having anything, but guess what young women do not want to be serious because they drown in attention and options. they want to have meaningless fun and not in the slightest want to invest in a future long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:10 PM
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It is according to nature, and women naturally reward it and punish guys for being low n. ironically, women shame men the most foe being virgin and low n, claim they dont want it to be high, then proceed to lust after the guys who sleep around and reward them with attention and good behavior, while they disrespect the low n guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:06 PM
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its not hypocrisy. Men and women behave differently, a men sleeping around is healthy natural behavior, a women doing it isnt. It doesnt matter for men because it’s natural for men, so its not tied to bad character attributes, but for women it is. so its to be judged totally different depending on sex, because it really is not at all the same thing despite being outwardly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:04 PM
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the question proves your ignorance about this topic. the n count itself is not the issue, its the character attributes that are necessary to cause that behavior and the ones that get caused by it. Im tired about people trying to desperately put it on some shallow number shaming thing. if you are a women and have a high n count, your a horrible pick because you have terrible personality attributes, its just a sure proxy to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:00 PM
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a man not judging for n count is an weak idiot because he ignores his natural instincts. but thats fine, you can commit to the hoes, your life will be fucked up not mine. stop the shaming. biologically functioning men are not responsible for poor female behavior or weak male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:56 PM
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Its not a preference nor has it anything to do with sex itself. the problem is thats its indicative of mental trouble because it not natural female behavior. we evolved to be repulsed by it and to detect the attitude that comes along with it. It is deeply tied to a whole bunch of very negative personality attributes. you can’t have a high n count without being careless, without at some point having done it for validation or resources or anything that did not involve love or attraction, and men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:53 PM
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because they behave differently, their attitude towards men is different, they have trauma and baggage guaranteed, and either are mentally ill because its not natural for women do do this, or they did it for a gain without being attracted, which is prostitution, or the bfs have all been chads and in that case, the girls head is fucked too. there is no way a women can be a responsible, mentally heathy and a good upbringing and personality and simultaneously be a hoe. Its not possible, and that wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:49 PM
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How would you know? women are lying about it per default, and you can bet any women lifting in a city and is social is a hoe and has likely been fucked since very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:42 PM
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the fact that women naturally have such an issue accepting that its inherently bad is because they subconsciously feel it and know it and its forever assigned to them, and guys perceive it no matter how much they lie. No amount of shaming males will help any women get a guy who has some sense, only push over who have no boundaries. just accept it. stop shaming men for destroying your value. we decide what is valuable, and its completely logical because we evolved to be repulsed by it for a reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:39 PM
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You cant even add 1 and 1 together. this is pointless. men have evolved to lead. look at higher mammalian hierarchies. all lead by males. you are severely brainwashed by the media to question this. Its so obvious it proves how deeply mentally ill society is. you have no idea what lead is. sitting here and telling me strength and intimidation isnt what leads, yet the capability of it is THE quality to lead, besides competence and respect, which is also a uniquely male attribute. females do not ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:28 AM
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this is sad. I dont need studies to prove than men are stronger, and I dont need studies to prove than women are poor leaders, when the body is specialized and men are specialized to lead, while women are naturally submissive. you have the intellect of a child to even challenge this. just think of how mammals live in groups, how their structure is organized. you cant have a sex that is to weak to fight, hunt and manipulate the environment to survive be leaders. the sex who actually needs to perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:21 PM
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Yes, financial stability is better than dating a nondesirable . Why waste time on a ugly man you find no attraction too. You don't need childern. We are on different spectrums of life . Life is better without young cry babies. Having hobbies is more important than procreating a child or childern one doesn't want. no, because otherwise your life has no meaning, and you will get depressed once you are so old that you can no longer perform any hobbies, no longer have enjoyable social interactions w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:15 PM
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yes. women will come up with all kinds of excuses, but observe how women change their behavior and attitude completely once you fucked them the first time. Once you got them to have sex, they lost their manipulative power, because they can not longer threaten the guy with not being able to get her, because all excuses to withhold it vanish if its already done once, and the guy knows that he doesnt have to conform to the stupid rules of female power play anymore. Thats why mens efforts drop off w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:02 PM
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I didnt say not work. there is a difference between following orders, organizing stuff within parameters, coordinating resources towards realizing an idea, leading a group, invent stuff, have responsibility for failure, etc. women are biologically unable to lead people, especially men. they can be take the pressure, are not direct enough, can not be viewed as authority outside of threatening taking away sex, can not be intimidating, and therefore just are unable to get a group to be productive. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:10 PM
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They can, its just that they refuse to when it makes them look bad as a collective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:16 PM
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stop twisting my words. Nobody cares about enjoying sex. the problem is the damage that is tied to females having sex with multiple men. I dont make the rules, I do not influence how we evolved to be. And the female body is not meant to take being with many men, but man are. If people are smart, they recognize the biological rules and judge accordingly. It doesn matter what you do, unless it destroys your ability to be in a functioning relationship. but thats what happens, so thats how Im going …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:15 PM
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the tide can not be changing because women are barely doing the high paying stuff and most get there by preferencial hiring. What is immutable is that men are biologically built to lead, design and invent and create productive companies and have managing positions. women biologically are not able to do this in large. They can not be out earning men unless very few men decide to go for high paying jobs, but this isnt changing. most attorneys are male, most doctors are male, all ceos are male, all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:07 PM
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Its not data. Its just a claim. Unless it fits commonly observed phenomenon relating to it, it is just a claim. and since it is physically impossible with a lot less women in every high earning profession, it literally is physically impossible for them to be earning more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:43 PM
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yes they are. guilty until proven innocent only when its about rape. thats how the judged are told to act regardless of law
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:42 PM
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smart men judge by body count. How do they know the body count? by the womens behavior and lifestyle. a man would have to be stupid to ignore it. Its not about middle aged men being gods gift to earth. Its about the power dynamics shifting from women to men when men have build themselves. that doesnt have to be middle age, and its more about the female attractiveness nosediving after thirty, than men getting more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:41 PM
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this is bs. there a few women in stem, and most doctors especially surgeons are male. this is propaganda, not reality just because some government controlled news articles claims it. It is physically impossible, because the high earning fields are male. this is a fairy tale to further increase womens egos to prevent them from having family to further kill off the middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:34 PM
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only if its the same person. you can have as much and as crazy sex as you want to, nobody cares, as long as it is the same person or very few and did not result in damage. statistically, womens marriage chances decrease exponentially with every body. Also women have most of their power in their youth, men in middle age, so a men would be stupid to accept a women who gave more when young to men who did not have to pay or do anything, while he cant explore his peak sexual value because of the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:30 PM
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listen, there are men going to jail who are not even proven to have raped anyone. It doesnt matter that many rapists do possibly not get convicted, because they will not be caught.It still doesnt change that the system intentionally favors women by law and discriminates men, regardless of how many male rapists do never get found.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:25 PM
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your wrong. women do not out earn men, they just attend college more, but for useless degrees and debt. also no, primal urges determine almost everything. it makes no sense to describe peoples behavior based on modern society. Its about modern society changing the setting, but the behavioral algorithms are the same as in nature. most people especially women behave irrationally, and the reason they do is because of it being a survival instinct. no matter how inappropriate, if buttons get pushed, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:21 PM
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I love nice things too and the hobbies I ideally like to do are quite expensive as well. but thats less important than family. also why did you mention male hobbies? Its about women rejecting men for earning not enough to a point where the female consumerism does not need to be decreased. men are not prioritizing hobbies over family. only women prefer materialism over relationships, because when women are young men are abundant, and they genuinely believe they have the luxury to be this picky, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:17 PM
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How do you know that? Most of the posts on here there are clear problem, sometimes identified by the men themselves (things like crippling low self esteem or subscribing to quite extreme ideas). this is quite hilarious tbh. Its not about just the men on here. we talk about what we see happening, that is not limited at all to our own life. men know how to be objective, unlike women who are never forced to be objective and therefore are unable to be objective. and what do you mean by extreme ideas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:09 PM
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Reproduction isn’t risk free to men. 18 years of child support seems like a bit of a risk. More if the child has a disability. If reproduction was low risk to men there wouldn’t be men complaining about paternity fraud, child support, paper abortions lol its about biology, not laws. we evolved to live in nature, not modern society. In nature, men just stop feeding the children if they dont want to, kill the offspring of other males, etc. thats what the human body is build for, and thats why men …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:58 PM
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bullshit, even if you knew one person like that, you know damn well that the hoes will only get pumped and dumped. stop denying reality. knowing one or two person that defy the rule does not mean thousands of women are being pumped and dumped. and you are likely lying . And stop labeling pointing out bad behavior as shame. Its not shame, they are doing something bad, and that has to be called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:52 PM
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stop deflecting. Its about the legal system systematically favoring women and discriminating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:49 PM
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yes they do, but you have to decrease the standard of living. but you are valuing materialism more than family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:57 PM
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I dont believe it, and these people certainly do not have productive children pr family, and will likely not be together in some years. you are just not evaluating it objectively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:53 PM
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not being educated does not help. but having two incomes and living together does help, aswell as children who work. but that is fundamentally opposed to women having a career, unless you cant get a man who has the means to retire you, and these men are not committing to women who are not fully committed to them, which means not working
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:46 PM
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prove it logically. you cant. Sex is risk free for men but a risk for women( excluding STDs which apply to both). Relationship is risk free foe women but risky for men. Why do you think men fuck just about anything without commitment, but not invest time and money into it, while women are usually carefully with who they have sex, but have LTRs with men they dont really want to fuck? women are gaining in LTRs. Men are giving up more than women. the reverse applies to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:43 PM
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you gotta be kidding, if that was the case, these men would have an abundance of women, but they dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:38 PM
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people can not change their biological functions though. judgement is good because its accurate, and you sure as hell do not know promiscuous women in healthy LTRs. people can not change their approach to life, especially if it scars them life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:36 PM
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yes, but mens pair bonding gets destroyed by different experiences than women. you are misinterpreting the science, also statistics are not science and have to be conducted the right way to lead to these conclusions. men generally can not loose the pair bond ability by having sex, because sex is not being vulnerable for men like it is for women. for a man to be as broken, his trust would need to be broken, and you need a long relationship to even have that, so it can not happen as frequently as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:31 PM
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Your aggressiveness, arrogance and disrespect is pathetic. regardless of your age, you would feel dumb and avoid an argument with me in real live if we had the same first language, like so many people do. women generally fear arguing with me because they cant deal with it, regardless of age. you should drop off the ego that comes with age, because having more experience means nothing if you do not draw the right conclusions, and most people are clueless about anything their entire lives, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:28 PM
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You dont seem to get that its not about marriage, its about gender roles and people staying together, because thats what children need growing up to be mentally healthy and successful. and most women are not earning enough money to retire, and the money will not help you down the stairs when your 80. also these women are unhappy if they do earn that money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:22 PM
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thats not what I meant. you are lying about women sleeping around being in healthy LTRs with men they want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:20 PM
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yes it is common, but women who are as dysfunctional are even more common, and that includes any career women unless she is not good looking enough to get a provider man and had to have a career to have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:12 PM
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how is this even judged if these men do not want to pair bond? I think you are missing that these men mostly are selfish and never intend to bond with any women, so despite them being chronically unattatched and maybe even as unable to pair bond, it still does not say that it was caused by the sleeping around, and it does not matter if these men do not want to bond. unless these men wanted a relationship but the women they fucked would not commit to them or they would eventually be dumped by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:08 PM
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No, you are lying, these women do not exist because they are nasty people after being tossed away so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:05 PM
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lol, I learned more about the world and how people and society function in the last two years than most people in their life ever will. My age does is not a valid argument to counter my argument. you gotta be better than than. What I say is generally accurate, if it wasnt you would find a way to logically prove me wrong, but you dont. otherwise you would not try to shut me up because of age. most people are like children their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:59 PM
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Its almost the same as the US in every regard except everyone earning less, but the number of career oriented women is the same. Also, dating here is much easier than the US despite that. And making money does not equal success, and is negatively correlated with long term happiness in women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:55 PM
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no, value is getting what you want out of the other person. men want sex more than LTR, women want LTR more than sex, both want both. but both only get the sex, while only the man gets LTR if he likes, but the women does not get that, because she lacks what the men want for LTR, wich is much more than looking good, but is all they need for sex. so she is low value because she cant get what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:51 PM
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no they dont. just look at pornstars. male pornstars talk like normal, healthy people. the women are completely nuts and broken. that says it all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:48 PM
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I leave in central europe, I have seen plenty of female doctors, but not one surgeon, which makes complete sense give. how stressful and how much of a responsibility it is. women can not handle that kind of pressure. the most insane hypocrisy would be a female surgeon who wants the man to be a provider, because she does not like the pressure. guess what, plenty of female non surgeon doctors want provider males, pointing towards even these women wanting now responsibility despite being doctors wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:41 PM
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that response does not make sense. what are you trying to tell me? Women do not know pain, nor struggle, so everything remotely uncomfortable breaks them, especially regarding their body. how can you claim to be critisized for your body, when most men are simping, and society now tells women only that they are desired no matter how fat or unappealing they are? who exactly does the judging? The few chads that pump und dumped you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:36 PM
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no women are surgeons, and if I ever need surgery and see a female surgeon I will turn around and run away, there is no way I let a women operate on my internals, because I know how incompetent people and especially women are regardless of their titles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:32 PM
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just another attack instead of an argument. offending does not get you around having to logically reason to win. just saying Im dumb if you cant easily logically show it and make a fool out of me does not work on me it see right through it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:27 PM
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You’re operating under the assumption that men getting to have sex adds to their value yes, because its true. If it wasnt, they would not get what they want, which is sex, and in that case they would no be having all that sex. but they do, so their value is high. In reality the data shows having lots of partners is detrimental to men and women in nearly identical ways how can it be identical if these men are getting what they want, sex but the women no longer get what they want, commitment from …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:24 PM
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lol, not doctors. women are not surgeons. they are nurse and only the kind of doctors who really do not have any value, and these women will have a hard time find LTRs with men they want. women will never outearn men because earning is largely related to make biological advantages. the only way women can out earn men is in profession where they leverage mens sexual attraction, or working a higher payed job with no skills and pressure like non surgeon doctors, or if they are of vastly different I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:17 PM
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you have no counterarguments and just labels and attacks, so you loose the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:12 PM
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judging by the amount of sex they get from good looking women , they do, because thats what determines male value, because a women who fucks you will commit for you necessarily, otherwise she wouldn’t fuck you. there is no way a man can sleep around without increasing his value, because if he lost value women would stop sleeping with him, but instead it gets more frequent the more it has happened. its the same thing with women having sex, but having sex is not what determines female value, so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:10 PM
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lol no. women are not out earning anyone, because women do not do the higher payed jobs. statistically, women barely hold these job titles unless because of affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:06 PM
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If they are attractive why would they lower their standards? because they are not as attractive as they think they are. if they were, they would be in an LTR with the men they are looking for. Also you’re delusional if you think sex lowers someone’s value. no, your delusional for denying it. male value increases with every body, womens value decreases. there is no denying it given the outcomes men and women have who have sex often. Women get damaged with every body, I know women who already are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:01 PM
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too much realism for you to take in. now move your butthurt ass somewhere else and let grown ups talk if you cant handle reality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:53 PM
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Because it not being your reality gives you the false impression of a career women not being a negative for children. Thats why we need to remove your specific circumstances to get you to see that it is bad, because not every women on this planet has your family and your life, so your specific situation does not matter and is not representative of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:50 PM
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sex with one person does not lower your value but getting intimate with different people will, because the intimacy repeatedly being violated by breaking off and getting hurt damaged the female psyche, and that damage lowers your value because it changes your behavior towards men and life for the worse, and the men gets compared to sex with better men that the women should never have experienced so that the relationship will not be threatened by not measuring up to past pump and dumps by superio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:49 PM
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that’s literally what most attractive womens lives are and will be. thats what men are trying to point out, and the solution is bringing expectations down to match true value before its too late. It isnt normal that the most attractive women are the most likely to die alone, and have no family, but it is like that. these women are very often single mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:41 PM
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Nobody is a SAHM anymore yes of course, thats why society is so fucked up and everyone has mental issues and birth rates declining and functioning families rare af.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:39 PM
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its a fact that most male friends of women do way more for them than male friends despite being closer to the male ones. If hes doing anything he would not do for male friends, he really is not a friend and wants sex, but women know that, they are just trying to lie and gaslight because they know these men are support networks and provide attention and resources, aswell as make them feel desired. you can tell really quickly if a male female friendship is platonic, and if both are not talking to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:37 PM
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maybe, but the alternative is also dumb because each body damages you and lowers your value, and thats outside of your control. realistically, women need to have the men waiting and have him invest time, not money, to the point where the persons intentions can clearly be judged. If you dont do that, your just setting yourself up for high body count, being perceived as a hoe for dealing with so many men. Additionally, you dont seem to get that you cant have everything you want at once. you cant h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:28 PM
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yes of course. But the point is women do not know the difference when they are young, and therefore think there is an abundance of LTRs available with top men, therefore think their value matches because they get attention from them and then proceed to stack bodies, get burned, never realizing their true value, drastically decreases it until they have none with age and inevitably being single ( mothers) when middle age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:19 PM
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maybe you are lucky and your ancestors work excuses your poor life choices to a point where it does not matter, but it still is a worse choice than SAHM. Imagine a women in your position, but the sons lets say average hight and looks, how would they live compared to average sons from a SAHM? they surely will struggle at lot more with a mom like you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:16 PM
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The fact that the percentage of male virgins is much higher than female ones despite supposedly similar average body count proves that the women need to get fucked by a much smaller percentage of men, so it proves my point. if you were right, there should be more female virgins than men because more men would need to fuck a small group of women, which is the antitheses of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:12 PM
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because if he does not commit its just another body that lowers her value, but thats not the point. the point is that all these options are really only for casual sex, and if you really wanted to find out your real value, lead with demanding commitment before sex and see how many of all those option will do it, and what caliber these men are. thats were you rank, not the best guy that fucked you in your life, because you can only commitment from the first ones. the issue is that women say its wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:05 PM
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not really. Its just a matter of not admitting they cant do better or are delusional because they are so close with their gf. Good looking women are good looking, regardless of how I look, what I can get or if I hate them as people etc. I think you also have to consider that womens perception of what is attractive in women is warped just like mens perception of men is, and does not go beyond certain physical attributes known to be objectively desired. I know women who have a hard time understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:59 AM
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every middle class men has that though. you have to be talking about lower class people, idk, but its not like most men have no secure jobs or are unemployed, although the number is growing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:27 AM
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that doesnt say alot. It not bad, but to be expected for middle class people. until they have functioning families, you do not know if you were successful. if they do, thats when you know. And I highly doubt that will be the case if you have a son, unless hes very good looking or his gf would be ugly. Men without strong male figures struggle with women regardless of looks, and I have a hard time believing a masculine man would put up with a career women. if that is the case, you got lucky or loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:23 AM
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thats not happening though. you said men are being praised for SOME minor things by their gfs, but that does not matter if men get put down for everything that matters by society and women in general you can not tell me men are praised for average jobs and being able to live by themselves. thats the most basic. how does it matter when men who are extraordinary in so many ways get praised for basic stuff if they only are praised if they are high value, and only by the girl committed to them but p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:16 AM
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having children and being married despite the career is not necessarily winning. you could have had a better man, better live quality, children would have had a better live quality and be better off being successful in live. If your children end up the same or better than you and can pass that on to their children, thats what determines success, aswell as you still being together until you or the man dies. if that is the case, you got incredibly lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:11 AM
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honestly your father was weak or stupid if he encouraged education in women, because the success in life of a female is determined by getting into marriage/LTR towards family as young as possible. thats what gives women the highest chance of success in every way, provided the father is actively helping to select the man. education should be kept at a minimum and just enough to survive alone, and should focus on getting into proximity of HVM or men on their way to HV and make the women as desirab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:53 AM
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thats such a bs its laughable. women do never get rejected up front because men want sex, women never get told no by men and made to feel physically repulsive. I rejected a girl who was my friend and who got fucked a lot by far better looking guys who did not reject her, and when I did, she was like a robot malfunctioning. she simply could not understand that someone would not want to get physical with her. And when she did, she lost her mind. women expect men to want to touch them by default, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:46 AM
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no. the difference is that a rapist will get convicted if he was caught and it was proven, but the women will not, and the judge will just find an excuse and not convict them regardless of the law. thats what’s happening. rapist go in jail when caught, but there is no women in jail for rape accusations proven to be wrong with hard evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:43 AM
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You have not understood me. Women did not want to leave, did not want to be educated, did not want to vote, did not want to work. only when feminist propaganda came in, openly painted men as these abusers based on rare horror stories, and got women to fear men enough, thats when they started to change because it is motivated on the premise that men are bad people and not trustworthy, which is bullshit. women did pass their anti male views installed in them onto their male children in a generatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:40 AM
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How is any of that power over your woman in a relationship though? its not, its really just protecting me from the power the government grants women over me. The while point of my comment was that that has to be removed. I dont care about power, I care about risk being equal and preferably high on both sides to incentivize people staying together instead of leaving for nothing, which will happen if there is no risk, and instead a financial gain, which is why so many women file for divorce. maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:35 AM
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its impossible, that should tell you that women are not meant to have careers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:10 AM
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How can they be low and praised for basics when they are compared to an imaginary abundance of chads? It just reveals that basic to you is really extraordinary and that you overvalue yourself a lot. men are not praised for nothing, they get ignored when average and talked bad about when they are the 20%. men do not get praised at all in the society, and instead get put down everywhere. thats why there are so many simps. women get praised for just existing. anything a women does is portrayed like…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:07 AM
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the problem is that these women are just as bad. you can not call something shit if you aint better, but they think they are better because they get this much attention from better looking guys because they do not understand the male nature. towards sex being different. If these women were to ask all these simping men if they would marry them before any sex happens, they would almost all pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:30 AM
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stats? its a logical consequence from men being wired differently towards sex and women not getting told the difference between a man wanting sex and LTR. Also the simping culture and social media combined with mens sexuality being visual all further amplifies a huge disparity in perceived value, because they are judging it by the attention they get, which is useless for women because most of the attention is sex only, and even though there are equally as many women, many men will message many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:25 AM
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no they dont, because a large number of women can not be in an exclusive relationship with few men at the same time. They get sex with these men, but not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:22 AM
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no its not. it doesnt matter that its technically forbidden if they do not get punishment. It being considered a crime does not mean that judges are not sentencing them. tell me about a case where a women was charged with jail time or significant payment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:54 PM
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no. women showing off to women is them flexing clothing and fake wealth. if its the body or face, its geared towards men. women need male validation like oxygen, and even an ugly guy can make the most beautiful women insecure if he implies that that womens body features are undesirable for the male collective, provided its said in an assertive, malicious way. It breaks them.thats why women always try to attack men based on implying undesirability to women. if that fails, women are hopelessly los…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:51 PM
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if that was the case, social media would not be that popular for women, but it is. they absolutely want it, otherwise they would not be trying to rub their naked bodies in random mens faces on the internet so desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:33 PM
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bet this guy is a submissive beta. otherwise he would not put up with someone as unreasonable and vile as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:31 PM
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Its one and the same in many cases. and it absolutely is worship, because women get treated like citizens with more legal and social privilege. and it doesnt matter, because women still get benefits from these guys without putting out. women are not supposed to get male attention without giving back their body. that only happens because mothers taught their sons to be beta push overs who do not value themselves or their attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:28 PM
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no, thats blatantly false. We need equal risk, right know only men get abused and mistreated by women, and look what it did to society in a fee decades
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:25 PM
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propaganda? women who try to sue for rape and are proven to be lying to absolutely not get punished legally. if that was the case, all these women would be in jail and not do it so effortlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 09:24 PM
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Its okay if Its about sexual attraction and relationship needs, because thats involuntary and has to be accepted. Its not okay though if its about a non essential benefit being lost, like social status, or a rich man making significantly less money but still earns normal money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:08 PM
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Depends on what the man wants, but most HVM will want a family, relationship and children eventually, and thats just far more likely to succeed in LTRs, thats why most men want LTRs. what I as a HVM would do is commit to one women for family, and fuck all the good looking women who are horrible for LTRs without commitment at the same time. thats ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:01 PM
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Wtf lol, its because women have zero economic value to the elites. mens shelters are not there because society worships women and does not care about mens issues. and women are physically and emotionally fragile af, just like children. And all women are dumb because their lives does not require to think because everything is taken care of by a man who actually do not require the thinking to earn any money to provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:53 PM
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yes. You dont seem to get that its one and the same, and you just need your father to judge the man so that you can risk it on him. the less vulnerable you are the more unattractive you are for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:50 PM
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judging by your bitterness, you must be the post wall single hoe every red piller keeps laughing about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:49 PM
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you mean all the simping and endless affection I can find under any female social media, the tons of messages in their inboxes from dating apps, instagram, etc? please, in western society women are basically worshipped and men discriminated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:48 PM
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yet most people who die each year are men, most people who are abused are men, most people who are victims of violent crimes are men. women have it so much easier yet cry about the simples things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:46 PM
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no, Ive gotten you to admit that women get it all thrown at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:45 PM
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no, whenever I see a good looking woman who clearly has all the personality qualities that are almost extinct, they are guaranteed to have an authoritarian father, and a submissive mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:43 PM
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shame does not work on me like it works on you. I could care less about statements like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:42 PM
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I find it concerning that you proceed to personally attacked me once I lined out how women do nothing. if it wasnt true, you would have gotten personal. that tells me all I need to know. You have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:38 PM
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Stop being evasive. we dont live in a dangerous society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:36 PM
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dont have the willpower? I am 23 but have had a better body than most gym goers for years on sheer willpower while being young and in college and everyone just partying. also you dont seem to understand that I do not want to be a house husband. Its emasculating. And attractive women do not have house husbands because they dont need to. i want to have money and a good looking women and family and control and coordinate and lead it. thats what men want , not be betas who get feeded. You know what,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:34 PM
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so they dont pay anything, because they certainly dont spend time on it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:26 PM
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no Im not, because men can only do this by being with an unattractive women and falling short on earning the money themselves, which is weakness and humiliating and a man like that will not be respected much less admired. a competitive man with decent looks is going to get the best women, not the most physically attractive guy who is a nobody and just looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:25 PM
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no, because these relationships do not produce productive children that go on to be productive parts in society and have productive children of their own. thats failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:23 PM
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no, because these relationships do not produce productive children that go on to be productive parts in society and have productive children of their own. thats failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:23 PM
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that is nothing compared to what men need to do. if men could simply behave and get the outcomes of a millionaire, they would all be millionaires, yet women complain about it getting handed to them for behaving, and they even find a way to complain about that. everything you mentioned is easy and a matter of wanting to do it, not it being difficult of exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:21 PM
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bullshit, fear can not be masked especially when its very present in every day live. it can not be surpressed if the motivation is big enough because it’s involuntary. also we dont live in war zones, thats just a deflection to not address reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:19 PM
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I know, other people do the labour for them, and they do nothing except to not insult these supportive people. Its as free as anything can be. men have to actually earn it. you compare conforming with parents to being competent enough to earn it. thats insane
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:18 PM
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yes, but they are few and its not because their looks have that much power, rather its an insecurity issue of the women. also its humiliating for men to get fed by women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:15 PM
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so you just admitted that its free and all given.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:12 PM
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no you are starting to be evasive. Men can not live that way, unless they are gay. You know damn well men are much more horny than men, making this option only available for women and gay men, which is purposefully offensive. no we can not live that way, if that was the case, many good looking push over men would do it, but they don’t because they cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:11 PM
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you still havent said what is so expensive about it, while I have already established that it absolutely can not be much because almost every women has it regardless of not earning anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:08 PM
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no. fear equals careful behavior. They are behaving without any care, and it is clearly calculated. There is no fear because it would be visible through their actions, but its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:07 PM
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it doesnt count because sex is far more valuable than it is to women and men are less selective, and women want LTRs, so the amount of attention for sex they get is misleading, because it does not match actual attractiveness, because men wanting sex makes women not needing to be that attractive. if women dont value that, it’s worthless. if they are not getting what they want , it doesn’t matter what they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:05 PM
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How is the women doing anything here? its all on other people. shes doing zero labor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:02 PM
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no. The large majority will not fuck them, and the ones who do will absolutely not spend money on them. why would they? They clearly just want the experience of fucking an older women, but they do not perceive them as LTR material and do not want to spend time with them much less invest in them. you are delusional to think that. if that was, true, there would not be so many single miserable women. they should all be with good looking 25 year olds who dont get their 23 year old looks match. but y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:59 PM
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Young women who look "put together" have some source of money either parents, guardians, or a part-time job. well that proves my point. they are not doing any labour themselves, if someone else pays you can not complain about cost because your paying nothing. and if you can make enough for it on the side, it can not be much. men sure as hell can not be providers with a side job. The reason they always look put together is they are being trained to look attractive to men. How does that cost money…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:57 PM
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No, it comes from what the media and other women tell you. The women who fear men the most are the ones with little experience, while the hoes with tons of bodies who should have seen all kinds of shit do not fear men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:50 PM
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if young college women who have no money can look like that, it can not be that costly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:48 PM
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being allowed to be abusive, legally be able to use men as live ensurrance, being able to claim rape without the false claim being a crime, not being held accountable for being horrible people, having sex from physically far superior men in abundance, getting praised for the simplest things, getting jobs only because of being female, getting help from stangers and have people always want to be with them to a point they see attention as annoying and perceive people/the world as much more friendly…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:38 PM
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no, 50 year old women will absolutely not have more or even remotely have the same options as a 25 year old man. yes they will have more attention for casual sex from ugly guys, but that doesnt count, and Im doubtful that men even do that. a 25 year old good looking guy who is normal has a chance at fucking normal good looking young women. but a 50 year old women who looked good when young will have no good looking 50 year old men trying to have LTRs with them. thats what we have to compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:27 PM
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not at all. some people prey on the weak. that has nothing to do with men and women. Its the propaganda you have been fed to make you fear us. you cant just say "well, some people are murderers and than not leave your house because you fear being killed because 1 of a million people killed somebody out of personal motives. it makes no sense to put it on men being men and women being vulnerable. In general, womens vulnerability will be rewarded. just because these women can also be abused, doesnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:24 PM
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yes, but they are going to be vary different interms of attractiveness to the opposite sex because of the same aging being biologically perceived differently. Thats why your post is bs. yes they age the same, but the conclusion is wrong because its about what makes the sexes attractive. Men who are as good looking as women and as young, lets say woth are 20, will be valued differently, even though they are the same in every way, because youthfulness and looks i women are valued more than in men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:17 PM
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Make-up, clothing, body maintenance, all the beauty requirements of modern culture require a lot of money that women have to make, which take years of hours of consecutive effort. how is it than that all women who want to always are put together even though they are in school, college or do not earn any money yet? young women are all put together, yet they ear nothing. make that make sense. A woman cannot look beautiful by modern standards in a matter of hours. It takes years of body maintenance…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:12 PM
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What you call "put together" is an expensive, labor-intensive, stressful never ending project for most women. no. you are making it more complex than it is. And as for altruistic, I suspect what you really mean is be a door mat for some man. And I suspect that you have installed fear of men programmed into you. thats the only way you could turn "altruistic" into something negative. Im a man, I mean everything I say literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:57 PM
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yes, but that doesn not mean spending a lot of money. Men want you to look good and signal certain values through your looks, but that does not require massive amounts of money and a huge variety of clothing. women could have the same outcomes with a minimal amount of clothing. thats not what women spend all the money on though, its consumerism and variety of clothing for short term gratification. men do not care about how many outfits you have, just that it looks good and classy. men hate most …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:52 PM
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judging by all the attention even ugly or fat women who put zero effort in get, you cant tell me that thats the case. Also, not all the effort women do is what men want even though they say they do all this stuff to look good for men. Yes women spend lots of money on clothing, but thats not what men value. You could have outfits as basic and plain as most men, and still have the same or better appearance depending on if you signal the right things. No man cares about all the variety of clothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 02:47 PM
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cost of make up and clothing are not real value and the cost and effort does not at all compare to what men have to do to even be there. they need to make the money, which takes years of hours of consecutive effort, while make up and so on can be put on in hours to be ready. men can not get a career in a matter of hours. Also the pressure of ranking against other men in terms of resources on top of behavior and looks. There is just so much more men have to do. Its just insulting to equate that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:45 PM
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Men are absolutely capable of that and most like to do that but women generally fear to be vulnerable, have trust issues, and can not express themselves in ways men can understand. Women typically have a hard time thinking outside of their female perception and putting themselfs in the place of another person, because they are never expected to lead other people and think about this stuff in contrast to men. Another huge issue is women not accepting men telling them their feelings are irrational…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:38 PM
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nobody says relationships are not a source of happiness. The issue is telling people relationships are only to provide happyness at all times as an active effort by the SO, and leave because they are not making them happy even though making you happy is something people are supposed to provide passively and longterm, not shortterm happiness accutely by an effort to entertain bored people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:22 PM
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no, you are wrong. yes, technically women age as fast as men, just like women do not look better than men. but the difference lies in the perception of certain features while aging that are linked to attractiveness. young women have a lot more collagen in their skin than same age men and this is for example a big attraction factor for men because its production is caused by estrogen and progesterone, which dictate and control the period and ability to conceive. when the collagen declines with ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:18 PM
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ironically the same women when young were "preying" on older men because they could provide stuff that younger men can not keep up with. no one seems to acknowledge that the other way around can be just as predatory or normal. Its pretty clear they are trying to shame men their age and younger women from staying apart because they know they get outclassed by younger women and every year new young women enter the dating market while they get older and realize how they ruined their live, so the tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:00 PM
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Yeah exactly, because what is honorable is what is best for collective long term happiness and as a result individual long term happiness and purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:55 PM
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yes its pointless for us because the laws purpose is to destroy family, keep us mentally ill and single and in spending mode paying double the rent, double the gas, etc and access male money and family wealth and put it under government control by giving it to women, incentivize them to spend it on themselves for pleasure, which really means putting it back into the economy. We want nuclear family to be as robust as possible and keep all the fruits of our labour inside the family. Thats fundamen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:47 PM
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Wtf? I said balance, we need to give men power or remove power from women to even get there. also no, when men had all the power everything worked fine, all the problems of our time were born the moment feminist propaganda turned women against us and made them delusional and selfish while legally discriminating men to give women the power to destruct society. All the weak men today are the result of women making their sons weak through feminist ideas of pedestalizing women, hating on men as a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:34 PM
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Well we know that paternity fraud is never going to be a thing because you can't control how many people , individual sleeps with so you might as well get that out of your head that's a fairy tale right there, lol wtf? It happens frequently because it is women biological imperative to do so if they cant get the top men, and is indicated by womens attraction to male attributes changing during ovulation. and number two paternity test should be mandatory, and then your ass can't get away and not ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:38 AM
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no, we just need the laws that give women artificial power over us and discriminate us removed. Right now, men are basically second class citizens compared to women. we would need financial abortion, remove divorce rape laws, mandatory paternity tests and making false rape accusations and paternity fraud a criminal offense with punishment equal to the damage they intended to cause you can not have the savety of the man chaining his money to you for becoming a SAHM without your body being chained…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:12 AM
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we want financial abortion, discriminatory marriage/divorce laws that allow women to steal or property removed, mandatory DNA tests for children and false rape accusations and paternity fraud to be criminal offenses with punishment equal to the potential damage they intended to cause. then justice would be restored.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:09 AM
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thats some bs deflection. The laws are to destroy the nuclear family. And women today are far more abusive than men ever were because society incentivises and fully supports it. No man in his right mind is gonna marry today, given that he gets no power over the women at all but signs away his rights on his property. Its completely onesided and women are incentivised to break it, and thats why they are doing it. any women who even mentions getting married is not qualified for any commitment becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 10:31 PM
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thats funny considering that thats the only thing you somehow projected into this. seems like you have only one way to approach criticism and debate, and thats labeling it an attack or hate to not address the points and try to shut down conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:53 PM
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out problem is not the utopian technology, but the elites who hold humanity hostage. Even though many people know about this again since it was covered up when they won WW2, I dont know what could possibly threaten them given how powerful their methods of psychological control are. but given that we were in a worse state in the medieval ages were people world view and view of history was even more narrow and completely emprisioning, it eventually got broken because the writing machine was invent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:21 PM
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Its clear that you are not honest nor taking in what I wrote. it seems like you are just looking for a way to blame me, and twist my words or ignore. of course thats not convincing, especially when you keep ignoring my explanations. Im not the issue. women are destroying society, not men, and that’s overwhelming clear, just like that they have no hardship. I mean most women spout stuff that is so and out of touch with reality its insane and that makes me depressed just to hear. I said I want a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:40 AM
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From reading your other post I doubt it's that intellectual women don't exist, women who prefer to talk over texting don't exist, beautiful introverted women don't exist, etc it's more likely they try not to be around you and the women who like to be around anyone are happy to be around anyone, which includes you. Notice how you immeadiately assume there is something wrong with me. Its not that women are avoiding me. Its just like I can not really bond with them because their personality is comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:21 AM
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I'm not sure what country you live in but I think you should look at your female homicide statistics. In the US it's multiple women per day killed by men they know and usually in a romantic relationship with. yes, but you gotta realize that its nothing compared to the US population size. Thousands of people die everyday, just because there are many people. Multiple per day really isnt many, and the ones who get killed will be lower class with people generally having ruff childhoods and lives. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 01:45 AM
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Please clarify certain facial features and certain behaviour because so far you've only described 'not outwardly mentally or physically sick' and that's most women. having perfect teeth and full lips that look good while smiling, having nice fascial bone structure, having eyebrows that have the right angle and thickness, hair that look soft and thin but full, basically hair that can be styled nicely and not thick or ruff, no upper eyelid exposure and no hollow under eyes, having a slimmer nose, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:30 AM
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you have no idea what you are talking about. aging doesnt matter. Im familiar with the science of age reversal. All it can potentially do is stretch human life. you dont seem to understand that human coexistence is governed by hardcoded rules in our genomes. Because of that, if certain natural conditions are abandoned, society will collapse. you can not abandon the traditional family model. human existence is impossible without gender roles and nuclear family, because they are tied to the biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:12 PM
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Lol. so you do not understand what proving is. You just can not understand an implication and cause and effect, and keep asking for proof for anything that I try to use to get to a cause and effect relationship. at some point we have to agree to certain premises, and I kept using ones that go futher and further back to concepts that are established facts, yet you keep questioning those as if you never leave your house, just pretending you dont see it even though it’s overwhelmingly visible every…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:57 PM
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But in a family where the abuse is bad being raised by a single mother is better than being raised in care after your father has killed your mother. That happens probably more often than you realise. well in the 1st world countries this does not apply. please, deal with the norm, not rare occurrences that are irrelevant to the discussion. But where safe and reasonable, two parents always beat one. No, unless the father seriously harms the child, which is almost never the case, two parents always…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:43 PM
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"girls I dont like liking me but not the ones I like." What's the difference to you, or possibly all men. What makes you like or not like a woman? clean, healthy looking, nice hair, certain fascial features, a certain behavior From my point of view if you're mainly interested in sex, all women have that function so I don't understand your struggle. Im not though. I want an LTR and I cant fuck girls I feel no urge to fuck because they lack what I need to want to fuck them. Girls I want to fuck ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:10 PM
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by the fact that you dont see young attractive girls in happy LTRs anymore, aswell as marriage rates being low. If women were as attractive for LTRs as they used to, and they earn more money, there should be much more LTRs than 50years ago and much more happy families, but the opposite is the case. also women openly proclaim they dont want to cook and clean, most are not nurturing, are combative etc. and have all the options and simping causing them to be much less considerate of a particular me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:22 AM
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Shame does not work on men that much. I "Can't get laid" shaming doesn't work on men? It ruins men's lives. this is nothing compared to how powerful shame and group psychology is on women. all political propaganda targets women, who in turn poison their children. Society seems to want to destroy itself. I don't think I can stop it. yes we can. and no, society wants to grow in the most productive, best society possible. However, the people who controlled the world for centuries and their decenden…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:17 AM
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Show proof for your statement. I cant prove it directly, but the way society pedestalizes women and trashes men to a point where women are arrogant af and men simps does not really allow anything different. If we assume men and women are equally abusive by nature if they can, it already proves that women abuse more, simply because if the overwhelming number of sexual options women in this day and age have. The more options you have or think you have, the worse you are going to treat each option.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:53 AM
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I prove it by outlining the existence of social media, women getting way more attention because men are more horny, and media propaganda being there to actively encourage entitlement and delusion. the female entitlement logically follows out of this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:59 PM
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I'm asking your age because I'm curious what generation you're from. Im 23. Your lived experience is what it is, no-one can take that from you. I do wish you'd be less aggressive. I'm trying to have a conversation with you, not 'win' at something. And Im trying to save the dying world as childish as it sounds. Two households on middle classed incomes are proportional to one household on one lower income. So opportunities are reduced for children. no, because the middle class child will have more…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:56 PM
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the issue is that YOU don’t understand evidence. The only way to prove something is by logical cause and effect. thats what I did, but you can not understand how this is proof because you expect some authority argument bullshit. If I am repeating myself over and over again, it should tell you that you are missing something rather than it being my shortcoming
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:15 PM
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I dont happily exploit people. I only subscribe to this out of desperation and loneliness, and frustration about girls I dont like liking me but not the ones I like. If I had it easier getting the women I like, I would never propose this because it fundamentally conflicts with my morals, but I also am quite lonely because I never really had any family and no close friends since childhood, so I am in need of company and consciously would decide to purposefully enter a relationship like that. At t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:11 PM
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Yes I did in the same sentence, you keep lying to my face. Stop with this crap. this clownery is over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:00 PM
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You've successfully explained why men would be wired to serve women, I'm yet hear from you why women would serve men, other than sexually, because their DNA causes their brain to be hardwired to do it because we are biologically equipped to live in nature, not modern society, just like men will always want to help and protect women even when there is no threat. but even then, women need to feel cared for and loved to feel 'turned on' it's a response to being served. clearly not. they need it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:57 PM
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I'd love to know how old you are. this says alot about you. Caring about someones age and not what someone says in hopes to invalidate without an argument. you being older than me only makes it worse for you, not me. Children in two seperate households which were previously middle+ classed end up doing as well as those in a single poor family. If you look at the data its the household income and opportunity not the two separate buildings. You are immediately contradicting the previous sentence. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:36 PM
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Lol, the only sentence in my response that isnt the proof, I proceeded to explain it one sentence later. But somehow you act as if I just stopped after that sentence. weird what about this is unclear? If society excuses bad female behavior, which clearly is happening since the male hate propaganda called feminism, than women will behave badly. Its that simple. thats why they do. because if people do get constant attention on social media, never get told no etc and never held accountable by nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:01 PM
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commitment is a mostly male risk Because of course men are the majority of domestic violence victims, men are most abuse victims, yes they actually are, because verbal abuse and psychological violence can not be tracked and if we did, we would find out that women do abuse more. because men will carry a child or will be more likely to raise it on their own etc, which also means men loose their children who often hate them because the mother lied to them. Its not like men dont care about their kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:55 PM
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You have no idea whats going on. Shame does not work on men that much. It does work on women though. also nearly all social engineering and propaganda targets women, and so do most ads. Its pretty clear who is the lest resilient sex. You might think its good for you that you live in a time where men are weak and all these resources get transferred to women. what you dont see is that that very fact is what is deconstructing society. While women keep using men, having tons of attention, vacations …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:34 PM
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...how do I even start the conversation on why women are not built, designed or evolved to want to serve men. you dont, because they are. and I will explain below why thats the case. I mean, it's clear the three male reproductive strategies are rape, trickery of a naieve or mentally damaged female or picking a woman he can respect and funneling resources into ensuring offspring success. A females strategies are to avoid all men other than those that will provide resources (genetic or tangible) i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:22 PM
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there is no debate about these causes. your not arguing in good faith if you deny this, and I already did explain them. If society excuses bad female behavior, which clearly is happening since the male hate propaganda called feminism, than women will behave badly. Its that simple. thats why they do. because if people do get constant attention on social media, never get told no etc and never held accountable by nobody, of course they will be arrogant and entitled and have an inflated self worth. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:04 PM
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I'm struggling here. Did you just say that men don't have a selfish ego? no, its just way less frequent because society put men constantly down and women up in every way. Many men have decades long relationships with women, sometimes including children and when they move up the status/financial ladder drop their entire family for women with a higher visual social status that they then marry and have a family with. It's really not uncommon though it can only happen in the groups of men that make …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:59 PM
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your commitment is worth less than your sex because commitment is a mostly male risk. that makes your commitment worth less than his. 2.your judgement is irrelevant to the actual value and what equates. 3.Men get to decide what’s valuable in women, not you. You have no say in what is valuable to men. you dont get it. spending money on luxury vacations and clothes does not enrich any guys life. and you didnt get the point. its about admitting that you are materialistic and care about lifestyle mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:43 PM
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okay, seems like you intellectually can not understand cause and effect, Im not gonna discuss this futher with you because if you can’t understand implications, there is nothing I could possibly do to convince no matter how laughable obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:35 PM
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In MY terms they are,feel free to disagree Successful men are rarer than low n women, and on top of that low n count is the minimum to make commitment possible, its not something great to offer, its the bare minimum the get any commitment from someone smart with self respect. You have nothing that equates to the guys success at all. you are standard, while he is extraordinary. To make up for it, you would need to have great relationship and household skills, but you very likely dont. And who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:08 PM
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There is clear cause and effect to prove it. women are getting hit on a lot more than men but are more unattractive for relationships than ever, yet they are more entitled and delusional than ever, which clearly proves they have to be confusing SMV with RMV because there is no way a women who has no relationships and many hook ups and failed, short relationships can be entitled, yet these women are the most arrogant women. they have to confuse it, because they should have self worth issues if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:45 PM
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No they dont, I have listen to them extensively. They never even attempt to argue, they just straight up start offending. Almost any of my posts will have at least some personal attack kind of response, even if it got 30 up votes. If there was an argument against even the slightest of the RP points, I would have heard it by now multiple times. Anything women ever tried to bring forth was delusional and quickly turned personal once I easily dismantled them. the insane hostility from women and blu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:33 PM
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my parents are still happily married and never argued or anything. It has no connection at all to my views being largely RP. If anything I should be naive about women and marriage having seen it work perfectly, but I also observe the women around me and other peoples relationships and after seeing women behave and talk and what they do and what qualities their boyfriends have and not have and its pretty clear whats going. Also the internet is full of the most delusional, arrogant and malicious s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:25 PM
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Its isnt an option because real world results and the way women get defensive and offensive when making arguments and never having any counter arguments make it pretty clear that its pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:16 PM
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Its the truth though, thats the problem. you cant just attack me because you dont like what I say. Its still an objective fact. If that hurts your feelings, thats why they cant change and its getting worse. How can we tell women they destroy society in a way they understand and accept and than change it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:05 PM
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No, I cant respect that doesnt matter if its a male or female. Dating out of your league signals weakness and low self worth. I know plenty of men who do equally fuck many women the same level and massively lower, and despite being jealous of this success I just cant respect these guys even though they technically outperform me hard. It means he has no boundaries, which is not respectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:57 PM
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It really depends on the tattoo tbh. The motivation is what is important, and so is the design. I actually think colored neck and leg tattoes and even finger tattoos can be sexually attractive to be because I like aestheticly pleasing stuff from an art point of view, but still these tattoos are tied to personality traits, particularly rebelliousness which is a deal breaker, as well as carelessness and impulsiveness, and even worse liberal views such as feminism. If a women does not actually have…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:52 PM
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this right there reveals that you are not arguing in good faith. get off this sub if you just want to get butthurt and punch around
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:41 PM
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well women act like they do far more often than men, and on top of that there are far more women using men than men using women. most women have male friends and many of them are actually only there because they mistake spending time for wanting sex, and as much as women pretend to be clueless, they know exactly whats going on. but very few men have multiple women believing they are in a relationship with him all at once, which really is the equivalent of women having multiple male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:38 PM
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the point is that many women are idiots and therefore cause both genders to be single and are responsible for the low birth and marriage rates, and all the consequences like single motherhood, the devastating consequences for these children, and overall misery in society. why the hell you gotta try to attack me? I cant change these womens mind, but its still frustrating to see women destroying society. You seem butthurt for what ever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:34 PM
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exactly. and that women believe it is the same and thats why many very attractive women do never develop a good personality and always have new boyfriends but are destined to get dropped and ultimately die alone. I would bet my life on high attractiveness being extremely correlated with no family and dying alone as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:27 PM
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SMV doesnt matter for women, relationship value does, because women dont wont to get pumped and dumped, you cant come in and say well SMV is offer and demand, because the demand only means something if its demand in exchange for what women want, relationships, so it doesnt matter that the 8 male and 5 female have an equal opportunity to fuck, because this man can also get sex from an 8 while the 5 female will never get commitment from a male 8. women simply do not understand that SMV alone does …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:22 PM
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no, because these women confuse sex with wanting a relationship, so if a women can not get a relationship from a man but sex, that means she is below him not above even if she gets hit on constantly by far better guys. the point is for men, what counts is sex to determine value. for women, its getting a relationship. if you get fucked everyday by 10s but not even a 6 will commit to you, you are still a 5, and thats what women do not get. your value for relationship is not the same as for sex. ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:18 PM
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notice how you straight up personally offended to mask the fact that he was right and these women were out of their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:06 PM
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no, its actually cringe, childish and delusional to believe otherwise. There is a subjective part about it, but there is a universal algorithm governing attraction and even if it gets distorted in some people, the vast majority will perceive the same people as attractive. There can be a huge variation in how the features rank and are prioritized, but still there is a strict rule governing it. If you are in shape, well developed and symmetrical face, you will be attractive to most people, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:02 PM
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And men treat more attractive women better than an average looking woman, that isnt even remotely comparable. The problem isnt women treating more attractive guys better. the issue is the massive inflated perception that makes them treat men who are far better than these women as if these men were below. men do not do this at all. they are more likely to forgive “sins” such as body count, mental issues or how much she makes etc. wtf? In what world do you live? Men do not care about what women ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:56 PM
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Eventually all these men without women are gonna be unhappy, stop working and become violent once they realize there is no hope for any family or success with women. The whole point of monogamy is to solve that problem, because the societies with something kings and harems were very violent, unstable und a lot less productive because the more unhappy people you have, the more crime and less working. These societies will eventually get outcompeted and conquered by the ones with enforced monogamy.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:12 PM
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You have no idea and completely misjudge me, but I shouldn’t be surprised. polyamory equals mental issues, which was evident as soon as you tried to frame something non predatory as predatory. the fact that you see a predator in my statement means there is something wrong with you, because whenever I say something ristrictive, you and so many women here respond with labeling me abusive and predatory for no reason. listen, you have installed fear and are paranoid, and can’t objectively analyze wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:09 PM
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Okay, so you're suggesting a lot of relationships are ones where men lie about their commitment but aren't fully committed. yes, but this applies only to chads who can get laid easily and have no intention on any commitment ever. normal men are not like that, because most men have no backbone much less a selfish ego, but these kind of men do so they will just lie. Women can't tell when men are lying about their level of commitment, Really? Its incredibly easy though. If he doesnt visibly enjoy s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:03 PM
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It was perfect until no fault divorce and taking away mens ability to force you to have sex and beat you… I mean, I need to get some kind of power over you to keep you in line to balance out the power you get over my money, right? Perfect is what has the highest chance of success. Based on thousands of years of human history, its clearly the traditional kind of marriage with men having the ability for corporal punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:29 PM
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What? Marriage used to be men signing away their resources in exchange for complete control, and when the women cheated they would not loose their money, which is a fair deal. today, men sign their resources away, the resources they will earn in the future, they will loose it regardless of it being the womans fault, and he does not get anything. It used to be a fair deal in every way, today its essentially a contract to slavery without anything in return. I mean men get no power over women and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:27 PM
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I understand. You just follow stupid people with useless titles and believe them mindlessly. Psychology proves me right, but most psycologists are woke endoctrinated zealots so they are not operating in a scientific or truthful manner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:19 PM
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only to you in your social engineered, fear based mind. Notice how to you anything male has to be predatory. You are conditioned to be paranoid and this will keep you sabotaging your relationships eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:18 PM
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What ? this is basic cause and effect. asking for studies means you do not understand how my statement is a prerequisite for large societies to even exist based on the issues that come with human natural imperatives. Large scale societies can not function without monogamy, because if left to natural few men will have most women because they can based on instincts and provision, but now are dependable on the large number of men to accept them because they can easily overpower them. imagine asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:16 PM
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It is decided by the effects actions have for collective wellbeing. Virtuous is behavior that is moral and leads to better coexistence and survival and wellbeing of the collective. dysfunction is behavior that leads to destruction, collective misery and harms the collective and coexistence. the issue is most people have no idea about the results of their actions or are selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:09 PM
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I will never understand how an 18 year old girl in modern times can be suicidal while being in a relationship with someone she supposedly loves. what could possibly be so taxing on your psyche to act that way? I mean I know depression well and can understand that it makes people act that way, I just cant understand what could be missing in an 18 year old girls live to a point of being suicidal. please tell me, Im curious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:05 PM
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So you're saying you don't think you'll ever be in the positiom of upgrading your long term relationship but plenty of men do do it. If you're still in your 20s give it time. You might get there. not at all. Im saying that men generally dont do it. I personally would do it, but only if I entered the relationship knowing that that girl isnt what I am looking for but still want to have a relationship and sex just not commit. But I was talking about a relationship where the needs are met. and that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:59 PM
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Women like sex, doesn't mean it's valuable. women need relationships with men more than the reverse though. Men who want to have sex will boost their egos and the women don't respect those men enough to care what they think about them. bs. women care alot about what other people think about them. even the ugliest guy can make the prettiest girl break down in tears if he just criticizes her body in a way that she perceives implied undesirability of the collective. If its said in a confident, cond…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:38 PM
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In nature, many men will never fuck. In a working human large scale society, monogamy is the only way to have a society so these men are supposed to fuck the women they commit to, and the same goes for the women, and everything would be working out just fine, like it did for thousands of years to get to today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:01 PM
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my brain into overdrive? well studied? most of the education and study is unscientific cultist propaganda with no arguments and reality denial. what I said is real. If you cant see it based on the state of relationships between sexes and the world in general, there is no point wasting energy with you. you have a huge ego and lack the ability to be objective, and you are unaware about your ignorance, which is a sign of low intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:57 PM
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what did you do to drive him away?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:52 PM
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Im not paranoid, I just understand cause and effect. being feminist, leftist or a high bodycount directly inhibits any success chances because it requires certain character attributes that make them nasty people, because they have to be to even get into that position based on the dogma of these beliefs or the issues that caused the women to grow that bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:47 PM
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well you proved my point, you had one of them and fucked it up, now someone else is in the position you could have been. Thats all I claimed, that you must have had atleast one of them and left or fucked up in some other way. How can you fuck up a relationship with someone who is all that? Im mean 18 is young, but still pleasing men is very easy even for an 18 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:45 PM
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If sex isnt as valuable, why do modern women have these high body counts? they still are drawn to men to have a purpose by serving them and having family, you cant deny this because women suffer way more from being single and alone even though they never are as alone as men. women need the group, so they are naturally way more drawn to company. Women jump through fire to get to men, maybe not for sex, but sure as hell for fullfillment. Most middle age women are on antidepressants today, men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:42 PM
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no they are really not. I have never ever seen or heard of that, and when I heard women complain about the ex boyfriend who left them, Its always something different. women might perceive it as being hypergamous, but more often than not, the real reason they left was because the girl was annoying or they just wanted to fuck and pretend to want a relationship. The conscious decision to abandon a happy relationship in hopes of someone better is a women thing, because men do not have the options wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:37 PM
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yes I know, but women do not get punished for it because most men are push overs who are conditioned to not enforce boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:26 PM
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I find it remarkable that you immeadiately try to frame me as having predatory instinct and wanting abusable women. There the social engineering and fear of the evil male gender speaking out of you. like you were a programmed media bot lol. We dont live alone and therefore we cant just do what we want. Purity culture is sacred and the best thing ever, and is actually the best thing that can happen to society. no sane human could possibly not want purity culture for women, if that person had the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:07 AM
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yes. But the difference is I don’t complain about people judging me unless I know its stupid and understand if they have good reason and take it for what it is, while women actively try to remove judgement from them which is clearly linked to immoral dysfunctional behavior, and in contrast it is backed up by the entire society, media and courts to advance societal dysfunction and collapse . not only does it encourage women to be dysfunctional, but actively tries to remove valid judgement of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:46 AM
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no, only men. commitment means being committed to each other with a common goal in mind. multiple men for women just is a way of extracting resources. women can not be attracted to multiple men at once in a bonded, committed sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:41 AM
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most modern women have psychological disorders. not illnesses, but these are mostly more nasty. you certainly have better chances of success in an LTR with a mentally ill women than any feminist/leftist/high bodycount women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:36 AM
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lol traditional marriage was perfect before it became a method to make men slaves and for the government to access male resources
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:29 AM
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the question is weird. men dont like women with mental illness, but they like good looking women. good looking women who are single are single for a reason, mostly mental issues. So these are the only good looking women available who can be accessed by non top men. So they date they an try to fuck them despite their issues and just have sex with them without committing, and usually end up getting annoyed and dropping them shortly after when the sex can not make up for the discomfort of experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:27 AM
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yes exactly. thats why dating without any commitment means hoe. not being invested while she tries to get the men to be invested and pay. If a women is dating multiple men, she is using all of them except one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:22 AM
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You have to be lying, because you would still be with the first one of these guys. You are not though and have had numerous of these guys, so the question becomes what is wrong with you that they dropped you, or that you dropped them and are lying and they werent that attractive. because you wouldn’t have left any of them if you were telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:17 AM
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yet this will go out of the window once men judge you for your bodycount, hoeing around, relationship history, having no bf, social media, male friends,having no children, age, looks, decisions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:11 AM
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I certainly am not going to commit to a women like that. Im smart enough to learn from the mistakes other men make. Its always turn out the same. maybe you should begin to observe your surroundings instead of claiming stuff that is completely opposed to objective real life observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:00 AM
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really? the average women can easily get fucked by an 8 and have commitment from an average man. the average men has an absurdly difficult time fucking his looks match. The fact that male virginity is much much more frequent than female virginity proves it, along side tinder statistics. If women had it just as difficult, they should be as desperate to have a relationship as men are to have sex. But their behavior indicates they are not, because they believe they have much more options because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:57 PM
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