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Light exercises, yoga, breathing exercises, meditation, cooking, cleaning...lots of things can be better than what you're currently doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:34 PM
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Dude, you're on this track again!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:15 PM
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Not all men who struggle with dating become incels though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:15 PM
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Well, most flat-earthers probably won't get over their delusion and it might be the same with incels, but I hold hope for guys like this. People can get better.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:14 PM
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This subreddit has a wide representation of incel community and there are dedicated forums to it. Incels have their own lingo as well.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:13 PM
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Lower IQ is a positive indicator of having higher n-count both for men and women, at least partially because they struggle with delayed gratification. But I'm not sure what IQ has to do with my comment in the first place. High IQ doesn't mean you necessarily have your shit together.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:13 PM
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Because it's a crab bucket. It would be different if you tried to help each other, but from what I've seen it's just the way to get further in your despair.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:12 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:11 PM
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Whether it will or not, it will help them to leave incel communities which is a win in itself.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:06 PM
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I've seen some stats showing that it's a particular type of minority that is undesirable while East Asians generally do not struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:04 PM
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No, I mean general adulting and taking care of your mental health.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:03 PM
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No, you didn't get my point - if they manage to get their shit together...they most likely will be over the blackpill overall or at least over incels communities and their vitriol.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 08:02 PM
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Everything is great, but for a person who is not religious seeking a religious partner makes no sense. I'm not sure that being egalitarian is a necessary prerequisite here - I'm sure there are more traditional women out there who treat their partners well, it's just that I don't tend to hang out with them, so I can't give any info here. But your point about "mixed up", yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about - you have to vet, you can't just point a finger and say "go there and there are onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:01 PM
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Sure, struggles can make you bitter. Not all men who struggle with dating become incels though and when we look at situation as it is - incels are not good partners (for various reasons, not because they're necessarily bad people), so your answer doesn't make any sense. There are enough good men out there and we do not need a time machine to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:55 PM
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A lot of men wouldn't be here if they could do the first point in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 07:28 PM
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Reread my question - that's now what I've asked. I asked specifically where good men are in the other user's view. I do not experience any lack of them, I was curious to see his response as we were having a discussion. Blackpillers are hardly good partners to date. You might claim they were good prior they got blackpilled, but if a person falls for internet scam that deep, there's some underlying issue within them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:23 PM
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I'm curious to learn the reasons? I think the major one is a lot of people are not religious. I don't think I've pointed to a certain subculture? If you don't count "educated women who have stable relationships with others", of course, which it isn't imv. I'd say none of women I was talking about would say they're egalitarian, it isn't really a commonly known word in our language, but it's the dynamic I've seen in their couples. I do call myself egalitarian though as I'm bilingual and I'm aware …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:10 PM
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The SIPP is a large-scale sample survey of the civilian, noninstitutionalized population of the United States fielded by the U.S. Census. SIPP data requires specialized software and weighting to account for the fact that it uses a multistage stratified sample of the U.S., but when analyzed correctly gives information for a representative sample of the U.S. population, so these results apply to the U.S. as a whole. To do the analysis, I matched husbands and wives who were married and living toget…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:04 PM
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Yeah, church isn't a good answer here. There are enough assholes in church and I'm not religious. A good partner is someone who treats you well. I'm not sure you can point at a certain subculture or place and say "hey, there are a lot of good partners", it's something you have to vet for. I can give some common traits among women I know who treat their partners well - they're from middle-higher middle social class, educated, generally do not have "messy dating life", they usually have good relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:01 PM
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I think almost half of marriage now have either partners with similar income or a woman outearning her partner, so it isn't that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:50 PM
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I'm sorry, what do your rumblings have anything to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:47 PM
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See, it's very contextual. Why do you expect I could provide a precise answer to a rather general question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:46 PM
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There's another study: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/630326/pdf Showing that higher earning wives do not have higher divorce rates, but it's an older one. The ifs one seems to be...an article and not a study though, is there anything more to read on it? I wonder whether they controlled for unemployment. Husbands' unemployment can rise their risks of divorce, but I'd argue that unemployment is very different to just earning less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:45 PM
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Well, where are good men in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:37 PM
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...out there? Some are in relationships, some are seeking, some prefer to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:32 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:22 PM
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Have you seen his test?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:17 PM
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Empathy is the ability to understand and relate to other's feelings. It can be as basic as the ability to "read" emotions on one's face or more complex as "knowing the context I suppose they feel this or that way". It doesn't necessarily mean you agree with this person's opinion though. It's mostly shown as care - you see your partner upset, you ask what happened. You think how your partner would feel if you did this stupid thing before you do it and you avoid doing things that you know will ups…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:15 PM
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We probably disagree on the ratio of good to bad partners among women, but I'm not sure how we could qualify that objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:13 PM
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Why would I go on a date with someone who I felt zero attraction to? I waited for some time and went out with a guy who I did feel interest to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:13 PM
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Sure, you don't get to know each other to the level where you can trust them fully, but it helps to avoid taken men, men with messy dating history etc. When you know people who know this person, they can warn you if something is off. I met my husband in university - we'd hanged out in a group before, I'd seen him interacting with other people and generally there was nothing "off" about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:11 PM
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A lot of people perform when they're depressed, both men and women. There's whole high-functioning depression if you didn't know. But they also feel like shit and have higher suicide risks, so they do need to get help even if they still can perform.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:03 PM
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STDs When it comes to STDs things are a bit mischievous to say at least. Sexual Transmitted Diseases like HIV and other types of common STDs are not too afraid of Lambskin condoms. Huh? What does that mean? Unlike regular latex condoms, the material structure of lambskin condoms has microscopic pores that are big enough for the STD viruses to pass through. Based on standard testing, this is the reason why the FDA did not approve these condoms as a reliable form of STD protection but only for pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:02 PM
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It's the same with men asking where all the good women are - the people asking should take a look at their dating life. There are enough good partners of both genders, if you keep dating shit, maybe you should stop being a fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:00 PM
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I'm a clinger, so when we're sleeping I get as close to my husband as I can. But I also heat up when I sleep so he gets too hot from me body warmth and he tries to move...I get cold and move closer and so far and so on until he doesn't have any space to go and the rest of the bed is behind my back lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:58 PM
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It's not that men tend to lose more - it's a higher-earning partner tends to lose more. It's more often men though, but it's not that higher-earning women get spared.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:56 PM
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You've been doing it non-stop and it looks like you're spiraling. Take a break, do some light exercises, go on a walk. Do something that helps to calm your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:51 PM
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People are forced to be more pragmatic later on the road, but it works both ways. Whatever men here say - a lot of men do not want to marry or date a woman who will be heavily financially dependent on them or who doesn't have her shit together and can't take care of herself and her close ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:50 PM
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Sure? I'm not sure what it has to do with my comment.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:50 PM
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Not really. It lets you to have an idea about a person's life before you even go out with them and it's easier to avoid cheaters, married men etc. I've never dated casually, so it's not that I've needed a huge number of people to go out with. This sub is notorious about downvoting, don't pay it any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:46 PM
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I can feel any romantic attraction only to people I know somewhat and have emotional connection with. So cold approaching is just a waste of time for me. You also keep missing the difference between getting to know someone and asking them out immediately you introduced yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:44 PM
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Can you try to stop your obsessive thoughts for today? You've been doing it all day, it isn't good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:13 AM
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So it's neither money or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:15 AM
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Tbh I haven't an issue with it since I started dating. Husband's presence works well at repelling interested men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:13 AM
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It's often a mixed group and you can't realistically just start ignoring one particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:55 AM
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As I've said it really depends on your social circle. If you do significantly less than most people around you, it might be an issue and I understand why you feel like you're falling behind. But most people around you make around the same amount or less and they still date, your issue is probably something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:07 PM
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It depends on your place of living and social circle, but I really doubt your dating issues are tied to finance. There are lots of men who make far less than you do and who still date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:04 PM
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It's a mix of things. Social changes take time to get hold. Yeah, women have been financially independent for some time, it doesn't mean there wasn't the pressure both on men and women to pursue long-term relationships, marriage and to have kids sooner or later. Social medias have affected our society a lot and now we have first generations of people raised on social medias and struggling with real life social interactions. Further individualization and alienization of society - we have less com…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 11:03 PM
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Great, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:57 PM
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I could deal with temporary unemployment or low income as long as it was, well, temporary. If we're talking about some "permanent" situation, I wouldn't date a man who was making significantly lower than average for the city I'm living in. I want to have kids, most likely I'll have to help my mother and some relatives in the future - realistically I cannot support a whole family on my own at least on an acceptable for me level of comfort. So around 60k would be a low cut I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:56 PM
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Not less than the poverty line? The closer the person is to the poverty line, the more I expect that it's a temporary situation. If you want to talk about some "permanent" income, I guess anything around 50-60 would be the low cut. I want to have kids and most likely I'll have to support my mother financially later on, so I can't realistically feed a whole family on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:53 PM
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I'll repost my old comment. It depends on the context. My husband makes less money than I do and there were periods of time when he was unemployed. I'm fine with it. I value him for more than money and if I had to choose between him having extremely long hours and not seeing me that often and him having a nice office job with less hours but lower salary too, I'd pick the latter without any doubts. It gets a bit tricky if I had to date now though. My husband and I met as teens, we both were broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 09:57 PM
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Why would you wish ill on people who didn't cause your misfortune? Also who defines "deserve"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:49 PM
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I'm being charitable here hoping that some edgy male users here are teens. But on a serious note - there have been at least several men around 17-19.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:58 PM
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There's a scale of "strangeness". A man who approached you on the street - a total stranger. You friend's friend who you met before he asked you out - an acquittance. Going out with your colleague or person you're studying with is safer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:57 PM
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Nah, male and female teens are somewhat alike here, both groups are trying to be edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:15 PM
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Therapy, medication, different approaches. I don't think there's any other advice here and I'm sorry you're going through it, but I don't think engaging into this conversation does any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:14 PM
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Well, personal experience can vary greatly. So far I know one woman dealing with her husband's PTSD, another had to break up with a guy who had PTSD, depression and whose therapist told him to go to psychiatrist which he didn't do, another woman whose bf hid his schizophrenia from her (and yeah, he doesn't go to the doctor either) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:12 PM
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It's pretty hard to qualify, sure. Them seeking help does mean their partner doesn't have to bear the whole load though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:03 PM
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No, it's one thing to find delusional takes amusing and another to see suicidal people trying to threaten strangers with their suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:02 PM
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She's a teenager and shouldn't be here in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:02 PM
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People are judgmental by nature, it isn't really the question of reason imv.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:33 PM
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Try again. Different therapists, different approaches, different medication. As long as you're alive, you can change things. I feel sorry for you - you aren't in a good place to be and you're really convinced in your delusion. There's nothing I can do about it though, it's outside of help any stranger could do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:31 PM
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Well, as I've said - people are entitled to their preferences. Others still can judge them for it, you see both men and women judged for theirs, but in the end of the day you can't be forced to date someone you don't like, so it's on you to stick to your preferences and standards.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:29 PM
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Women seek professional help at higher rates than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:27 PM
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Btw, are you the same user who has been creating alts with the same request "find/give me a gf or I'll kill myself"? I chatted with him and he demanded my personal info at some point, the way you're writing is really similar to his.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:07 PM
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It does depend on one's reasoning for having this preference, sure. There are enough people who think that sex makes women dirty...but they don't mind making women dirty themselves. Or that casual sex/premarital sex is morally wrong, but they engage into it themselves. As I've said - most men here have issues with dating as it is. Realistically I don't think they'd hold on to standards that are hard to fulfil if they got a gf.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:04 PM
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Emotional labor includes not only managing your partner's emotions, but also managing and micromanaging your household. So no, men generally do not do more emotional labor and even if talk purely about emotions, the stereotype is that men do not listen to their partners nor are capable of providing much emotional comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:57 PM
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There's a pretty big difference between playing a therapist for a person who refuses to seek necessary professional help and just being a supportive and caring partner. Some issues are beyond just venting to your partner or crying in their arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:56 PM
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I tickle him and he surrenders. He weighs twice as I do, we can't really play wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:54 PM
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Agree to an extent and it works like this both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:53 PM
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You need professional help for your suicide ideation. What your brain is doing here - it's tricking you to think that suicide is the best course of actions. It makes you think you'll never get better and there's no point in anything...but it doesn't have to be this way. Unfortunately, other people cannot solve this for you - it's something you have to do yourself with the help of professionals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:52 PM
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More intelligent people might be more cautious around sex and have more stable relationships, hence less partners.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:46 PM
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Most men here struggle with dating as it, putting filters that are not really realistic for your age group doesn't help. If you believe that premarital sex is morally wrong, you shouldn't engage into it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:42 PM
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Answer the question: how do you think risks are getting calculated?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:41 PM
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Have never had casual. I think being on a similar level is the most comfortable position - neither partner has a reason to be insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:24 PM
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Tyrannical regime and national generational trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:23 PM
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Today this guy is angry about...normal bodily feature? Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:22 PM
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What do you mean by "socially taken care of"? There's a reason why women prefer to go out with their friends and women tend to look out for each other. There's also a reason for women to be mindful about their drinks and not letting their glasses just stand without anyone watching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:21 PM
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The standards are...pretty similar, no? Both men and women's standards for being "instagramm" pretty aren't realistic and achieved mostly by genetics and filters.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:19 PM
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Both men and women have the authority over themselves. They can refuse to fulfil unreasonable demands whether it will lead to saying single or not. A lot of women do choose to stay single btw. The context.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:18 PM
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Where did I say that?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:49 PM
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I know a few families like that - some are fine, some are struggling due to dysfunctionality of one/both partners. Overall I wouldn't say it's much different to issues of a gender reversed situations. A partner earning more can feel underappreciated, being used for money and bitterness about their spouse's lower income if they don't make enough for their lifestyle and the partner making less often feels inadequate and not always copes with it in a healthy way. Content couples generally view thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:57 PM
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Do we use "turn" in regards for people? It's usually either about activity or sharing an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:51 PM
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I'm talking about your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:48 PM
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Sure, which is why the woman's father should have dealt with his need to domineer and not pass it further to his sons and traumatize his daughter. Of course, women in this position have to sort their trauma out so they wouldn't traumatize their children either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:55 PM
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So men shouldn't dominate women in the first place, noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:06 PM
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You've somehow completely missed like not one of them has met her husband at university. It's friends and work mostly. To be fair not that many people actively try to meet some new people, so you don't get a lot of stories about it. Most couples meet "naturally", i.e. through friends, during studies or work. If it doesn't happen for you, you should try other venues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:05 PM
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Language courses usually take several months and you're forced to constantly interact with each other. If you meet someone who you get along well with, you could invite them to hangout outside of the classes. Sometimes there are group activities as well - like going to the movies to watch a film in your target language. Why bilingual? Two met their husbands through friends online - guys wrote to them and they saw that they have people they both know, another got together with her classmate's you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:36 PM
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Both men and women have the authority over themselves. They can refuse to fulfil unreasonable demands whether it will lead to saying single or not. A lot of women do choose to stay single btw. I'm curious what expectations put on men in the sexual context do you find unreasonable?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 07:28 PM
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Sexuality - yes. But men lust not for women's sexuality on its own, but for sex. And as I've said lust isn't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:11 PM
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When you go to a person to greet and introduce yourself because you gonna spend a lot of time together doing something, that's not cold approaching. Cold approaching is approaching a stranger to flirt with them and ask them out. Do you see the difference? I have a few friends from the uni and I know a few couples that started out there. A lot of people dated partners outside of our university though and all my cousins have met their husbands not in a college.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:10 PM
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Are you talking about your female persona in the 3d point of view? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:08 PM
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Sex is something you do. It isn't an inherent part of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:49 PM
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I met my husband at college and he went volunteering with me in an animal shelter. I wouldn't advise DND or broad games as they tend to have more men than women, but you could try animal shelters, dance/drawing/cooking/photography/pottery classes and language courses. All language courses I've attended and taught had mostly women and quite a lot of young women as well. The caveat you don't go to their places just to date - you expand your social circle. Trying to hit on every woman during a clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:47 PM
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A good share of people are not cut out for life-long commitment, but some manage to achieve it. Women have value tied to sex. If they don't or can't have sex, there's no inherit value in the dating context. Men do not love women unconditionally, lust isn't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:45 PM
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What about thinking of your fellow men? It doesn't really matter whether it's realistic or not though in the context of "collective fault" discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:43 PM
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The OP complains about expectations put on men to perform - men can stop performing if they wish so. Just as women can do the same.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 05:32 PM
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Well, it's men who complain about it. Also if it's a small percentage, policing them shouldn't be that hard - it's not that you have to change the behavior of all men. Just this minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:32 PM
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Men could police each other in order to get the desirable result, as it takes 2 to tango. If men complain about casual sex...they could stop having all casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:31 PM
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I think chickens on a better diet give nutritionally better eggs as well. Taste doesn't exist on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:23 PM
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Couldn't you say the same about men? Men and women both affect each other. If some didn't sleep around, others wouldn't complain about "ruined" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:20 PM
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Do you prefer sucking dick? No shame in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:19 PM
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So can men.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 05:10 PM
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There are, you just don't see them as expectations because you think they're justified. There's a general expectation put on people (both men and women) to satisfy their partner, but some take it to an extreme and disregard their partner's well-being and pleasure in the process. An expectation put on women is to take care of contraception. Some men feel they shouldn't need to wear condoms when women can take pills, but they have no idea about all side effects from hormonal contraception.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:05 PM
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Men and women's sexuality works somewhat differently. Men have higher libido and find more women sexually attractive, they will always look at other women. Women have lower libido and it's mostly reactive. We just have to deal with it. See, you expect things and even when I haven't said anything about "bj appointment" or "can't shave", but just pointed out that there's pressure and expectations on women, you get ballistic.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:53 PM
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To put it short - it's okay. You're entitled to your standards as long as you're fine with staying single forever. Some people will be angry, but there are always people displeased with something. I'm not going to engage with your further if you keep using insults btw.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:45 PM
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Men expect women to give bj and some are very insistent about anal. Certain men expect women to have sex even when they aren't in the mood and for a lot of men the idea of "creating a mood" is ridiculous because they're always ready to go. Doesn't work like this for a lot of women. Some more sane criticism towards women is that they sometimes don't know what they like, they don't communicate enough, they don't show their men what they like etc. Starfishing, bad bj, not being pretty enough or hav…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:43 PM
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Nah, if you're okay with staying single, it's okay. You might be a hypocrite if you aren't a virgin yourself and it can be not realistic for your situation, but it's still okay as long as you're fine with staying single forever.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:40 PM
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Volunteering, interests/hobby groups - places where you go regularly not just to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:35 PM
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Where did they say it? To bring actions, you need actions. It can be seen even on PPD - men complain about some women violating rules but they do not report them to the mods.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:34 PM
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You can see a similar thing in manosphere - men get excused while women blamed for everything. If you do scroll comments, you'll see that enough women disagree with the OPS though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:19 AM
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Sure, there are assholes of both genders. This post is a ragebait though and it's amusing to see how people fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:08 AM
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Totally normal for teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:56 AM
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You might count if you want, but the point is there are enough women who disagree with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:47 AM
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Scroll and read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:46 AM
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None, but I guess you'll say that "you're a woman". My husband was very straightforward too though. He left his gf before he even approached me, he asked me out and then started calling me his girlfriend everywhere lol. He'd call and text me every evening even if we went out the same day. It didn't take a long time to start talking about some traumatic events in our lives...basically get did the opposite of TRP. Sure, his goal wasn't to sleep around, so it isn't the way to go if you just want se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:46 AM
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This one is way too obvious - it isn't the way a woman would describe a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:43 AM
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Not really. Scroll a bit past the first 2 top comments - there are women disagreeing with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:29 AM
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A fresh account with a rage bait story, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:26 AM
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I guess the main difference here is that you think most women "monkey branch" and don't just leave their partner for...no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:05 AM
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Sure, but I think it's rarer than people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:04 AM
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People still put efforts into it and there are eve more efforts involved into keeping the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:49 AM
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People don't really think much about it unless you rub it into their face. People generally don't think much about others, otherwise we wouldn't have so many problems in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:48 AM
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What about "figure out what your issue is and work on it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:46 AM
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Men should report these subreddits if they bother them. Subs get banned because they get reported.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:44 AM
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That makes sense, but you might be surprised how many men push marriage themselves and more people don't take any precautions considering prenups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:43 AM
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The question wasn't why men take it harder, but why some people think women or men shouldn't leave relationships where they're chronically unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:42 AM
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Do you think nice people never insult others?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:33 AM
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u/Spyro7x3, 5 and 6 are relatively common and not that hard to spot both among women and men. The difference is that men tend to cheat and not hop from one relationship to another. They usually have a mess of life as well - multiple baby mamas, financial issues etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:00 AM
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u/Turbulent-Tonight975, Can you post a link for your claim about 80% of women? It might be a cultural difference, but I suspect it's largely a perspective and social circle thing, but I don't really see what you're describing that often. Sure, I know some women like that, but they're generally pretty easy to spot on and they don't hide their intentions that well. Also you do know that first marriage divorce rate is 40%? Most couples stick together and if they're educated, the rate is around 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:59 PM
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I’ve seen a few discussions here dismissing women for leaving relationships because they’re unhappy Often men in these relationships are fairly content and they view women breaking up/divorcing as her destroying perfectly fine relationship...of course, her view doesn't matter here. A lot of men believe women should be more interested in keeping relationship/marriage afloat. A lot of men still believe that them bringing the check qualifies for putting all the efforts needed in relationships. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:56 PM
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You don't need what the term means, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:55 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" isn't just "toxic asshole" behavior. A boring nice guy can expose a lot toxic masculinity as well. Not taking care of his health, viewing sex as a measure of his success, insulting and putting down other men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:07 PM
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Same deal with me. Not being receptive to cold approaching doesn't mean you never talk to strangers - you get to know people you work/study with, you meet new people through your friends or relatives, you go to social events and meet people there etc. You don't go on a date with a person you've just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:45 PM
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Mods could include more words that the bot would count as being a woman/man, but overall it's a good decision imv. Saves time for moderators as they don't have to manually delete a bunch of men's comments under Q4W.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:43 PM
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Finding a therapist and approach that are right for you can take time and efforts. Try not to give up and be open-minded about the experience - therapy works only if you work with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:54 PM
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Actual evil in the world: Most governments, banks, pedophiles, sex traffickers, child traffickers, rapists, murderers, warlords etc. Who manoshpere on reddit thinks are evil: women, all women. On a serious note, no, I don't think that virgin men or even incels in particular (and these 2 groups are different) are evil. A minority of them is evil, most are just...people. There are more troubled and mentally ill incels, but it doesn't necessarily make them evil either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:53 PM
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If you're sure, you can pull it off, why not. People should date compatible partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:50 PM
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No, not really. I'd never date a stranger, so it isn't something practical and it isn't as validating as it can seem. It's mostly uncomfortable, sometimes annoying or concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:50 PM
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FDS got banned though, didn't it? I don't frequent either of the subreddits so have no idea tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 08:50 PM
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Most women in the West identify as feminists, the minority is activists though. Also I'd guess most people have friends of both genders, so...are you sure you have a wide enough dating pool with these filters?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:48 PM
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Where does it say that?
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 08:30 PM
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Have a good day, penis-haver.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:53 PM
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I try to stick to unsweetened.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:48 PM
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What soy milk do you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:47 PM
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People have decided to call this plant-based liquid milk and I'm fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:47 PM
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Considering that both marriage and divorce rates go down, I'd assume that there will be less married couples, but the ones who do marry will have longer-lasting marriages. I think if you take your time and marry a person who you are well compatible with, you have better chances for a fulfilling long-lasting marriage compared to couples who were rushed into marriage because they didn't really have much choice or were afraid to be the last in the stock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:44 PM
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Okay, have fun trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:14 PM
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It is. But I guess you aren't really talking to me - you're talking to the image of an average woman in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:13 PM
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Nope, it gives me cramps + acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:11 PM
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Almonds take too much water to grow unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:10 PM
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Working out helps to feel better, so it isn't just for keeping fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:07 PM
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I've read that cashew milk is the kind of non-dairy milk, but I don't really like the taste. Oat milk is better. Although, yeah, cashew milk has a milder taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:05 PM
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Preventing and aborting an unwanted pregnancy is better than birth an unwanted child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:02 PM
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Keeping blackpill at bay and not letting this place to get banned doesn't mean it's an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:00 PM
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If it bothered me, I guess I wouldn't participate here. I do think it's important to bring up a different opinion and experience so people wouldn't fall into a complete echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:00 PM
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Your moral isn't the golden standards and for someone else you might be morally deficient. So...I'm not sure what's to argue about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:58 PM
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It's really interesting how you keep misreading my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:58 PM
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We have very different experience and perspective here, it's almost comic. Your perspective isn't reality - you might claim it is or that most men share it, but I've seen how vehemently you close yourself to anything that can prove it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:58 PM
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Well, it's similar for men and women. It's against the rules to insult others, but some people do it anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:56 PM
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You'd see enough men with the same attitude if you really read others' comments and didn't choose to ignore everything contradicting your point of view. But your bias is too deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:48 PM
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Insults are largely legal.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:46 PM
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As I've said in my other comment - there are awful women, wonderful women and most fall in-between just as men do. Your experience seem to be heavily skewed into "awful" category and I do wonder whether it's due to your bias, it's something cultural or you're really that unfortunate person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:39 PM
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Lots of people still do it.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:37 PM
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How do you think risks are getting calculated?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:37 PM
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As I've said - I believe most women, just as most men, are pretty average. There are some exceptional women, sure, but most are average and some are just awful. It's the same with men. I know some great women, I know some great men. Generally I do not think that men or women are bound to date terrible partners, because I've seen enough functional couples and people of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:37 PM
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Collins dictionary: If you describe someone as clingy, you mean that they become very attached to people and depend on them too much. An adult is supposed to be able to take care of themselves and do not rely on their partner to the degree they are not capable of having their own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:27 AM
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We've discussed it. From one hand, men are expected to be more stoic, from the other, women are considered more emotional/irrational hence their worries and concerns can be dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:25 AM
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So people do insult women online all the time.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:24 AM
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People want to marry compatible partners, not someone who wants to fill a role of a wife/husband with them so they'd have to force themselves to play a character foreign to them. I'm not traditional and got married pretty early just because I got lucky and met a compatible partner as a teen. Sure, we both had to grow and change certain things, but fundamental values and traits are the same and we accept them. If he wanted to make me a trad SAHM, we wouldn't work out.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:41 PM
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Sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:03 PM
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Internet can be largely anonymous and inside one's friends group people often joke morbid and not "socially accepted" jokes and insult others.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:03 PM
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I'm not sure it's really gendered - it's a pretty common complain from women as well. There's no point in communicating when the other party isn't interested either listening or improving the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:02 PM
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No, it's still her responsibility to express her needs and listen to his. Just as it works the same vice versa. My point was more about how even when we try to do so, we don't always succeed and it's okay. It's learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:26 PM
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It's a bit confusing, but I'd guess it's a lack of efforts one put in their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:14 AM
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There are similar studies with similar results. I have some saved somewhere and if I find it, I'll link it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:42 PM
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Good to hear that, it's important to have at least some positive examples in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:41 PM
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Sorry to hear that. What are your relationships with your female relatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:32 PM
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I'm really glad you got better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:31 PM
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Dude, do you think pissing is helpful? Also considering there are 3.95 billion of women in the world 0.1% out of this number is 3950000. That's a lot of piss to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:30 PM
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My point was to bring some positive about men and women interacting in a platonic way, but it clearly goes against the grain with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:29 PM
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What's wrong with the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:14 PM
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I'm sorry for them and I can see how it can make one rather...hostile towards the other gender. I wonder whether reading about more positive experience could be helpful for them if they can get over being suspicious or jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:14 PM
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So do I. It saves time!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:12 PM
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There was a very heart-warming thread on askMen about platonic female friends. Men talked how they got supported, listened to, cheered up, helped when they had suicidal plans, got gifts and company, food, hand-made gifts etc. PPD men, what is the best thing your female friend has done for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:48 PM
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Healthy weight or on a leaner side. I like them skinny tbh. So starting from skinny and going to more "male gaze" with more muscle mass. If he has some muscle mass, some fat is fine too as long as it isn't anywhere close to "beer tummy".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:23 PM
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There are enough people of both genders who insult others - both men and women. There are also enough gendered insults and insults targeting men/women's insecurities...so I'm not sure what your point is. In relationship both partners should be mindful and treat each other well.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 09:51 PM
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Tbh by "bad body" I assumed someone heavily overweight and that's a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:48 PM
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It is kind of amusing tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:47 PM
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Your example is an example of rather poor communication on her side. Either she didn't realize the underlying reason for her low libido (it might be health issues, a lack of attraction, stress etc), his help wasn't enough or he made it seem like she "owned" him sex in exchange of his help, but in either case she hasn't expressed herself clearly (and chances are high he hasn't done it either). Improving your communication can be a hard task for both partners and open communication works only if b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:42 PM
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I'll repost my old post again: Most commonly cited divorce reasons: lack of commitment (75%), infidelity (59.6%), too much conflict (57.7%), getting married too young (45.1%), financial problems (36.7%), substance abuse (34.6%), domestic violence (23.5%), health problems (18.2%), lack of support from family (17.3%), religious differences (13.3%), little or not premarital education (13.3). If we look at reasons that were cited by both partners, it's lack of commitment (70%), too much conflict (53…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:37 PM
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Never thought you'd use anime gifs. The more you know about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:35 PM
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B. I'm short myself, so it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:32 PM
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Husband has gone to the gym, so I've made egg-fried rice with garlic shrimps for us to eat when he comes back. But it's already ready, he's not come yet and I'm hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:31 PM
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Dear diary, today I ate oatmeal for breakfast... To be fair both genders do it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:46 PM
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u/AdEffective7894s, There's no one answer or one recipe for everyone. Some people do better by trying to provide themselves and their close ones a better lifestyle - they can do good things in order to feel good about themselves or because they really deeply care about certain issues so they try their best to improve them. Your way isn't that uncommon, but it isn't something gendered. There are a lot of people of both genders who associate most of their value to their job and generally to the go…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:15 PM
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Yeah, I get it. We have a very different experience and we've lived in a very...different realities, it's hard for me to relate to the downsides of modern feminism when I've spent most of my life in a country where we have loud cases of men killing, mutilating or raping women pretty much every year and more cases just go unnoticed. Add to the equation my mother being a lawyer and meeting these women on a regular basis. To be fair mother also had multiple cases helping men to get custody or prove…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:00 PM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:57 PM
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It also doesn't mean that they necessarily have a female perpetrator - so it's pretty much a speculation at this point. No, when we look at the percentages, women who were victimized purely by other women have a lower rate than heterosexual/bi women victimized by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:56 PM
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Pick the friend you trust the most and whose sensibility you don't usually question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:48 PM
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You might want to talk to them about your struggles. You might be surprised with their answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:40 PM
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Divorce - yes, DV - not exactly. They have the highest victimization rates and 1/3 of the victims was victimized at least by one man. 2/3 had only female perpetrators and in percent there are less of them than bi or heterosexual victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:39 PM
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I congratulate you on divorcing him. Hope you're doing much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:37 PM
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I usually describe women around me - my relatives, friends and just women I know. Yeah, you probably could say my mother is an angel - she's a guardian angel for our whole extended family, she bought her mother an apartment, she educated some of her nieces and nephews and helped to pay for their weddings, she paid for her sisters' medical bills etc. She's exceptional, but most people aren't like that and most are closer to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:36 PM
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It's rather amusing to see a man that deep into his bias that he thinks everyone disagreeing with him must be lying or being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:35 PM
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Ah, got it. You think that "show men aren't raped as much as women are" doesn't equate "lower risks".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:33 PM
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We have way too different experience here and I can't really relate here. I think trying to live in each other's countries would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 11:01 PM
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I would not take "one family law professional" over the study. Yes, lesbians have higher divorce rates, but they also stereotypically jump into marriage much sooner than other couples, so it might be the reason for it. The reasons cited of adultery and substance abuse by women are also due to men's mental health being ignored or being in a sexless marriage. That's an interesting way although unoriginal to put blame on women. The articles show that rare alimony is in case of short marriages like …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:59 PM
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More red pillers have entered that sub after there was a change in moderators. I can see the issue with it. Barely, and very spread apart in small groups. So...isn't it fair to judge MRAs by their public image on social medias? Most people do not participate in the groups you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:48 PM
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As I've said in the comment - there's no a clear cut who is to blame for divorces, both parties can and do contribute to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:47 PM
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I can take some time to lurk the subreddit and then report to you, how do you think about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:00 PM
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You should talk to him about it - that you have doubts because, from one hand, he can be caring, from the other, certain situations make you feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:59 PM
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It's also not really good for one's health. If some kind of emergency happens and you won't be able to eat properly for some time, your body will have harder time recovering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:59 PM
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Do they admire you for your achievements or for your imposter syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:58 PM
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Marriage protects both partners in case of emergency and combines budgets into one. If you're uncomfortable with it - it's on you not to fall for social pressure and to look for a partner who is okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:48 PM
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Well, he doesn't check that you get into your car - that's not money-related. Is there anything else you're worried about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:47 PM
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Okay, imagine yourself with a newborn and he still behaves like that. Is it okay or is it something you want to deal with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:21 PM
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I'll just copy my post on the topic: There seems to be a strong belief among manospherian men that women are to blame for the high number of divorces these days, as they initiate most of them. They overlook that initiating divorce is different from causing it or they think that women should bear whatever the issue they have within their marriage for the sake of marriage itself. It would be more reasonable to think that both men and women can be at fault for failing their relationships, most like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:20 PM
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Not all men have experience similar to yours and, well, if you actually read comments under my post, you'd see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:18 PM
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Well...what would you advise your friend who had situations like this? Do you want to deal with behavior like this the entirety of your marriage? It won't get better and as you both age, it can become even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:14 PM
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I'm curious where have I described women as angels? There are great women out there, sure, but everyone has their own issues and things to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:10 PM
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Yep. I think if you don't want to provide your partner with legal security, it says a lot about your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:10 PM
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Good luck with it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:09 PM
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You can see similar things on the subreddit itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:08 PM
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Well, that's...a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:07 PM
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You might want to stick to CBT for awhile. Have you talked about it with your friends? I've noticed that getting a reality check from my close ones helps me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:06 PM
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Yeah, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:05 PM
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Well, there are women who repeatedly date abusive men or just "fuck boys". Do you think most men are abusive or do pumping and dumping?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:05 PM
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Good luck with it! Putting on weight can be as annoying as trying to loosing it and people often don't acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:04 PM
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Have you tried therapy? CBT is said to be good at dealing with repetitive unproductive thought patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:33 AM
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Ive noticed this among married friends, associates, and some family members. Most of them have terrible marriages. When i tell them have sex on e a week minimum, or go on dates 1-4 times a month minimum, i have been told im being unrealistic. Is it unrealistic? Maybe with small kids, but without kids having sex at least on weekends and going out on a date at least once a month seems pretty doable. Although if we had a date only once a month I'd be pretty unhappy about it - it's too rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:31 AM
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You probably should try to look at what traits they possess and what the process of becoming friends was. If you see a patter, you might try to recreate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:25 AM
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Do you have imposter syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:24 AM
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You've said you have close friends...so you can form close relationships. How have you met them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:42 AM
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Such as..?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:38 AM
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I think it's linked to "never stop learning".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:38 AM
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Rent is pain the ass pretty much everywhere. We live in a cold apartment with a leaky ceiling and can't move out currently, ughhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:38 AM
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What's 0.5?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:37 AM
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What do you lack the most in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:37 AM
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You need not just to attend an event, but get a regular habit of attending the same repetitive event/the same place for some time to get to know other regulars. Which is...even more time-consuming, but I'm not really sure there's any other way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:31 AM
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Not a serious list of "adulting" from Conservi: Separation from parents. You shouldn't be dependent on t hem financially and should be able to solve your own issues. If your parents still decide for you, you haven't separated. Good financial habits. You should know much you make and spend. You should have an emergency fund. You know yourself: you know your likes, dislikes, your physical and mental traits. You accept and respect yourself, i.e. you don't tolerate mistreatment from yourself or othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:21 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:11 AM
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I used to when husband was on a diet and the result was that we both lose weight because substituting our usual food for less calorie-dense food meant we both were getting less calories (who would think so!).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:11 AM
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Maybe because "crazy" sounds like he was invalidating her problems/issues she tried to bring up. Like sometimes men call very basic needs and concerns "nagging". I don't have much experience with abused men tbh. One of my friends had been abused by his mother but he was...pretty angry with her although dependent and he'd talk shit whenever he could. He understood the problem but somehow he still thought that he had to provide for her and all, it's all very complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:10 AM
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Yeah, I totally get what you're talking about. All my friends are in another countries now and if I wasn't married, I'd be starved for this deep connection. If you're into history...what about some history fairs? Could you explore more social hobbies that you might like? Hiking/rock climbing etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:08 AM
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I'm talking about things like that. Ridiculous takes get reposted and mocked so people mostly see these things over normal ones which is unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:37 AM
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I used to drink husband's protein shake which did bring a little bit of a difference, but I lost everything on the road. You might want to look into more calory-dense food as well, like nuts/peanut or almond butter etc. Although if you have any issues with gallbladder I would advise against fatty food.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:11 AM
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Do you do yoga? What kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:09 AM
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I'm eating less than 2000 probably and I do some jumping stuff. Should buy some almond butter just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:09 AM
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I think you misread my question. It does happen, haven't you seen the examples of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:08 AM
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Nah, it's a shadow of the Russian language for me. Although now I've come up with another word for "crazy" in Russian which is used more casually and is less suspicious. I think saying that she was abusive and mentally ill is fair and gives more description than "crazy".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:08 AM
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"Crazy" is closer to mentally ill in Russian. Deliriously mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:40 PM
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I should get another opinion but they were talking about permanent changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:39 PM
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Blue pill, left-leaning. I'm not much into politics because it was pretty pointless in my homecountry and I feel that I have to educate myself on this topic. Generally I'm pro help from the state, higher taxes for the rich and big businesses, strong regulations for businesses. Socially I'm pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ+, environmentalist, feminist, egalitarian. So I have pretty strong views on social issues and a lot of of my views on gender relations and sex stem from them. I wouldn't date a man who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:39 PM
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Thanks for advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:33 PM
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Fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:33 PM
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Does yoga really help with it? I thought it was more about scratching.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:33 PM
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I had an eye procedure and the doctor said I shouldn't really do heavy lifting. I asked about the max weight and they said 10 kg but I think it's "out of the air" number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:32 PM
1

Are there are any meetup groups for your interests in your town?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:31 PM
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Why do you think it doesn't really happen? There are examples of it happening and there are extreme examples of it too. I think we have too different experience here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:31 PM
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Do 15-20 minutes really burn a lot of calories?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:29 PM
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Can I use my own weight to a degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:28 PM
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Very basic, but I don't really post photos online. Like 1 in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:28 PM
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Just get a bit more toned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:12 PM
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Don't have any equipment here and I was advised against lifting anything heavier than 10 kilo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:11 PM
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I'm trying, but I'm more curious about getting more toned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:54 PM
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I'm not trying to lose any weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:54 PM
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If I do some cardio 15-20 minutes a day, will it bring any visual changes? I'm underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:51 PM
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What are your interests?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:50 PM
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I've meant split all the load. Like we both work and we both do the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:48 PM
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MRA not having a coherent ideology isn't a redeeming quality here as just with feminism anyone can claim they're MRA and cover their misogyny/misandry by the movement. And they will find like-minded people too. MRA is much smaller but it doesn't make it any better. Although, sure, I don't have much first-hand experience with them and at best I've seen some subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:48 PM
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I prefer to split the load so we both have it easier, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:23 PM
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Red flag. If all his exes are crazy - "let him free", you don't want either to be labeled as his other crazy ex, deal with his crazy exes or get cheated on because he's clearly attracted to crazy women. I could deal with 1-2 bad exes, but probably not crazy ones. But this adjective is rather extreme in Russian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:20 PM
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Agree. On a practical level getting married after you've been living together for years doesn't really change anything. I can't relate to the religious part as I'm not really religious myself. I was raised Buddhist and Buddhism is extremely chill about marriage and gender relations (besides sexual relationships being advised against lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:17 PM
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Why did you get rejected? Do you live in a small town?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:16 PM
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What do you do? Do you work, do you study?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:11 PM
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In an English-speaking communities MRAs get mudded by manosphere overall with its usual crap like pushing against abortions, insulting single mothers etc. It isn't a rare content.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:10 PM
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Imv it's ideal if you both have enough energy in the evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:04 PM
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You need friends. You can try to chat him up, but don't rush anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:03 PM
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You do not know him, you do not know why his engagement hasn't followed through or why he's single. You're romanticizing the little chats you're having here and there because you're lonely (if you're a person who I think you are and I'm not mistaking you for someone else).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:53 PM
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On an individual level neither men or women need the other gender. They can live without sex or romantic relationships at least in the context of living in a functioning society. There seem to be far more vocal needy men though who complain and claim that their lives are not complete without a woman and that they have no motivation to do or achieve anything because they don't have a partner. You might want to argue with them more than with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:50 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:56 PM
3

Do you prefer a man who does not do the dishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:54 PM
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It is a fair comparison - there are problematic sides in both movements and a lot of people who follow these movements do not question the problematic things inside them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:53 PM
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The certain group of women. It heavily depends on a country though. In Russia women worked really hard for the Revolution, so when men tried to push their agenda out, they had to go on a rally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:52 PM
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So in other words you want to say that social and economic changes have pushed some men to start seeing women as their equals. While women had been pushing for it for years prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:05 PM
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It's fair considering your experience. The same way a lot of women would swipe left on "MRA".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:04 PM
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Not really. When it started feminism was ostracized as well, just as any other social movement for the rights of one particular social group. If men don't want to make the sacrifice and expect women to do it, they'll have to wait...for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:32 PM
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Well, we have very different experience with it. But academical feminism with all its transgressions isn't something most women are familiar with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:30 PM
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It's cool and more women should try it out. They also should be careful with who they pick and they should know that approaching or asking out doesn't mean they have to have sex soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:29 PM
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Yep. There are different branches of feminism and a lot of women just support the idea of women's rights so they subscribe to feminism without really relating to modern social media feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:42 PM
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You might want to reread my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:40 PM
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Considering the the majority of women in the West probably do say they're feminist (although most are not activists), yeah, that's a lot to ask. Even without this modifier this woman has a lot of options to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:25 PM
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I think "commit" can mean "having exclusive relationship". It doesn't have to be marriage. Marriage itself is more about confirming the committment and a legal way to make the state see you as one family unit - with all advantages and disadvantages of it. My husband and I married because it made sense to us - we'd been living together for a few years, we were planning to move to another city together and potentially get a mortgage together. We're together, because we love each other and we make …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:22 PM
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I do not jump to "child-like" whether I see short men or women. I don't think there's anything beyond "oh, they're shorter than I am, that sucks". Like...I am on a shorter side and have certain issues with it in my day-to-day life, I think it's even harder for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:07 PM
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People usually date close to their socioeconomic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:05 PM
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If you want your partner to do all the chores, you probably should do all the providing. But even then I'm not sure how many women are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:55 PM
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Kids should be banned from social medias.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:54 PM
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As a short person being seen as "cute" and "protectable" isn't really something I've chosen for myself, but I can't really help it either. I'm 5'2, I've stopped growing years ago. I cannot control how other people view me. But I also don't think that husband is attracted to me purely on the basis of me height, he just accepts me as who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:54 PM
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I think "in one breath" was to "men telling women....in one breath, and then telling them to..."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:59 PM
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I wanna bring this up but he claims he’s still emotionally dealing with finally accepting that he’s been controlling, financially/emotionally/physically abusive, and used sexual coercion to get what he wanted since our kid was 2 months old. Divorce and the sooner the better. He will NOT learn or change his ways, in fact, he keeps gaslighting her into putting his needs over hers. Fuck him and I hope she has a job.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:52 PM
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Have you tried therapy? CBT might be helpful. It does sounds tiring especially if you don't enjoy it much. Are there any social events linked to your hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:44 PM
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"it's over/it's never started/cope/r*pe/-max" etc.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 01:43 PM
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And...what's your point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:42 PM
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I'm tempted to correct your grammar and spelling. Guys, I'm bored. Do I have a type or am I unique and have varied taste? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:26 AM
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The common advice for shy people is just to go through it and that's what I did. I pretend to be more extraverted and sometimes it works well enough for me to actually enjoy the experience. But often it just comes to finding your people. Another common advice (the one I haven't tried myself tbh) is acting classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:24 AM
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There are traits that you probably can't get rid of or change, but things that you struggle with often can be at least improved. You can get better at socializing and talking to others, you need practice to do so. If you're on the spectrum, most likely you need some professional help, there's therapy for high-functioning adults for example. Mental health issues can be improved, although it can take an insane amount of time and efforts. Unfortunately, there's no any realistic shortcuts. I'd say m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:09 AM
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Some people are really bad at "selling" marriage. "...the first 5 years of your marriage would be tough". No? When you've been living prior marriage, nothing really changes much in your day-to-day life. All this post sounds like "if you have second thoughts and are unhappy about your marriage, just pop a kid and hope for the best". Also I cannot imagine myself complaining to my husband's father or brother. Just...why? I know that they have rather different views on a lot of things and I'm more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:06 AM
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People are molded by their social media. There is content for tradcons/conservatives and whatnot. The majority of people don't read much besides their social media scrolling. In general is a good caveat - I'm from Russia and from an Asian region. Pretty coderivative background outside of my close family, but I'm liberal and far more liberal than my relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:58 AM
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You have to concentrate on your education instead of wasting your time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:56 AM
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People who think that social medias are an accurate reflection of real life are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:25 AM
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I'm feeling sick, ughhh...Also Halloween isn't exactly our holiday, but I wouldn't mind celebrating it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:24 AM
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Your English teacher is crying right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:23 AM
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Or maybe people should date and seek partners compatible to them. It's not wonder that conservatives have better time dating other conservatives and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:23 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:54 AM
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These men are a minority of men and they date a minority of women. If you're mostly surrounded by men and women like that, I think it's the issue of your social circle and maybe your social surrounding overall. This behavior is more common in certain communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:52 AM
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You do not question it - you just hate them. Hating and questioning are 2 different things. You have to take a look at what kind of people you hang out or attract. It might be your social circle or a broader issue. For example, if I stayed in a village where I grew up, I'd have pretty screwed view on men and women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:51 AM
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I think it was this study. Note that they have a mixed sample and I can't find a part comparing the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:49 AM
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What do you want to write?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:48 AM
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No.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:39 PM
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Well, if you claim that something is 100% true, it's on you to provide the evidence. I don't think there's much sense in participating in the discussion when the premise is false. I've seen some of the discussions - it seems men who struggle with it tend to interpret movies in a rather different way than others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:39 PM
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Men go for female bullies as much as women go for male bullies. Like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:37 PM
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As awful as it sounds, you just do your best not to think about all the time. You can't change the situation, worrying about it 24/7 doesn't change anything either for you or for them. You can't do it even when these events affect your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:36 PM
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You can show examples of implicit message as well. I'd say it happens to everyone - children are taught if they behave well, they'll succeed and it extrapolates to teens and young adults, but most do realize that just being nice doesn't necessarily grant you things you want. She's talking about providing evidence which people don't seem to be able to do. Talking unnecessarily hostile is pretty common here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:24 PM
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Answering your question - there was a study showing that school bullies of both genders tend to have higher n-count than non-bullies. From what I've seen in real life they often tend to date simile partners or partners with very poor self-esteem and no boundaries. It does not mean that the majority of men or women are attracted to bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:14 PM
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I feel the same way about certain posters here, still she's correct at least with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:44 PM
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She is correct though, at least for a certain subset of guys here. Have you seen posts from iamslightlysad?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:34 PM
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It's ironic coming from incels who all use the same lingo.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:05 PM
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Maybe around 40%? Sometimes the percent is higher, sometimes it's lower. I can just ask whether he wants to fuck or I can deep kiss him or flaunt in front of him half naked. In the morning it can be just intense cuddling. Whatever it is, it works as a charm. It isn't 50/50 because sometimes I just don't have time to initiate - when the moment is right he's often the first one to "lit the candle". If he stopped initiating, I'd ask if something was wrong, but we wouldn't be on a dry streak.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:58 PM
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It's curious that you question women's behavior and not behavior of men who have been bullying you. No, not all men are evil and will bully or mock you. These guys have never grown up, they peaked at high school and not they're trying hard to recreate the experience. They're insecure in their masculinity and themselves - otherwise they wouldn't need to mock others to show off. There are men who do not behave this way and who do not need this kind of act to make people listen to them. You might w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:55 PM
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Yep. Either it's their poor vetting, they're attracted to assholes or they're poor partners themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:47 PM
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Yeah, we tend not to throw insults when we're arguing although I've got some anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:44 PM
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There are far less women to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:43 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17abzpm/i_believe_men_struggle_so_much_in_dating_because/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:37 PM
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We do, I'm not sure why you don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:17 PM
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Beards if they can grow them. I'm not sure that this amount of countering will look good in real life though - most likely it will be very noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:59 PM
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I think it tells more about his social circle than about women in general. The same is true in reverse too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:54 PM
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Women have much higher chances to be approached. Still you have to meet people, put yourself out there etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:47 PM
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Trauma bonding doesn't necessarily mean love. Two people who had pretty normal lives with regular problems and issues can meet, fall in love and then develop love out of it. Two teens can meet, fall in love and grow into love with time. Love is about dedication and friendship built over time, these things do not require some extraordinary hardships to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:00 PM
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Sorry you're going through it. I am not sure what kind of help you could get though. Dating is something you learn on practice, other people can't really teach you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:57 PM
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Dating issues do not end on finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:56 PM
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"Disinterested" and "finding unattractive" are 2 different things really. Disinterest is neutral and can be changed, the latter is harder to overcome though. But it seems we're talking about 2 different things here. When I'm talking about being disinterested, I'm talking about a man I don't know or know very briefly. Like a guy in college who keeps to himself and doesn't really talk to anyone. I'm disinterested - I don't have a particular opinion about him because I don't really know him. If we …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:56 PM
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If you don't talk much and keep to yourself, there are not that many chances others will put efforts into getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:51 PM
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You're enough for yourself and you're comfortable with yourself, it's great. It doesn't necessarily make you enough for other people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:50 PM
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Society is profressive-ish in terms of women's gender role, but it doesn't come with certain disadvantages as well. You're expected to juggle work and family life while doing more chores and childcare than your partner. I'd say the push for normalizing sex work in harming women long-term, but I know a lot of people would disagree here and I go against the current feminism wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:47 PM
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It depends on a platform. Women often get advised to take a step back, get a break from relationships, go on therapy etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:43 PM
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There are enough disadvantages for both genders. Men still work longer hours while women spend more time on chores and childcare, sex is expected to happen sooner than later and a lot of women feel pressured to "hurry up" in this regard, men generally expect far more in terms of sex than they used due to porn normalizing certain sex acts etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:22 PM
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A woman who struggles with relationships has to work on herself as well. Just thinking that you're enough isn't really enough, you need to figure out what your issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:20 PM
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It changes the outcome for them. There's no much sense in approaching someone who hates you, but it makes sense to get to know someone who just isn't interested in you currently because they don't really know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:18 PM
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I think most couples have a mix of beliefs and few are strictly egalitarian or traditional, which fits the current transitioning time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:28 PM
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Not to be rude, but if you struggle with finding a partner, why do you think you should enough as you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:09 PM
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I don't remember really, I've seen him just a couple of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:00 PM
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Good example. Think of school - do you see the difference between being bullied and just not having any close relationships with your classmates?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:56 PM
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There's quite a lot of content about how it's women's fault that men aren't manly enough and how to strive a man needs a traditional/submissive/feminine woman. Outside of online content there are enough men who feel more masculine/secure/fulfilled in relationships and they expect to be treated in a certain way in order to "feel like a man". I don't get either things tbh. I'm a woman because I have this body and I was raised this way. I don't need a man to validate me being a woman nor I feel the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:54 PM
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The outcome of disinterest and hate is different. You can attract a person who was initially disinterested and even if you can't they won't be trying to make your life worse. It's the opposite with being hated. Remember the school setting - it's one thing not to have any relationships with some of your classmates and the other to get bullied by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:48 PM
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It's the debate subreddit - I argue with their idea that disinterest equates to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:12 PM
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Sorry for your experience. Is there any change possible in foreseeable future? Maybe your partner could cook some food. I enjoy baking and cooking from time to time, but when it's something you do every day/every other day, it just gets annoying and I hate dealing with raw fish or meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:06 PM
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If you both are into this kind of stuff, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:04 PM
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Words have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:03 PM
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Can you see the difference between "disinterested" and "hate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:23 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:23 PM
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...I have male friends? I'm friends with them because I like their company and enjoy spending time with them, not because I am or was looking for a husband. I'm not a big fan of "energy" thing, I like pretty much the same things in my male friends that I like in female friends - shared sense of humor, being an interesting conversationalist, having common hobbies and interests, the ability to be open, caring and genuine in relationships etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:55 PM
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I don't think it's true. A lot of people do not agree with assholes of their own gender. Also why aren't men talking more about their issues with other men? They seem to concentrate on their negative feelings towards women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:53 PM
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Misogyny isn't necessarily hatred. Negative bias can be based on multiple things. Although I wouldn't claim that the west is "deeply misogynistic", what is the adjective for some deeply religious and patriarchal countries then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:51 PM
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I think women believing all/most men actively hate on them do exhibit pretty much the same behavior, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:50 PM
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I think it's somewhat narcissistic - they believe people think about them enough to actively hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:57 PM
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There are assholes in both genders and some people want to make rejection as humiliating and painful as possible. I wouldn't come to the conclusion that a whole gender hates this subset of people who get rejected though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:56 PM
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Women generally rule out shy men because these men rarely approach them and the majority of women don't often approach men. It doesn't mean they hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:56 PM
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Shyness doesn't help anyone and it makes it harder to form any close relationships. It's not that people actively dislike shy people, they don't put any extra efforts for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:01 PM
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I'm not sure what it has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:52 PM
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It tells more about what kind women you pay attention to. There are enough women who bring value to the world and are not narcissistic or egocentric, but I guess to notice them you have to take a break from pill communities and socialize.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:50 PM
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There are 2 users who got my "women are disinterested in shy/awkward men" as WOMEN HATE SHY MEN. I keep forgetting that for some men here not wanting to date them equate to hating them. Is this a form of narcissism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:40 PM
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That's not really what disinterest means. Wanting ill on someone is pretty much being interested...in a bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:37 PM
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Do you think being disinterested equates to hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:37 PM
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Most statistics show lower risks of sexual assaults. What's the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:37 PM
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I have no idea what it is, but going from the name I assumed it has some waffles lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:54 AM
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The best place is something cozy, romantic and quiet enough to talk. Fast food chains generally do not fit either of the points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:54 AM
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From the list - I think coffee/ice cream dates, bowling, movie theaters and sport events if you're into them are perfectly fine. But I'm not from the US, so I might be missing some context with the names of food chains. Assuming they're all about fast food, that would be a no from me. I'd offer something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:53 AM
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There are not enough bodypositivity-related resources for men and it's seen as more acceptable to shame men in this context, I agree. I've been seeing more voices speaking against it, so I hope it'll change in foreseeable future. On another note, even though bodypositivity for women is pretty popular and widely accepted, there are still lots of negative content and comments about women's bodies. Anonymity brings the worst in people and social medias have been only making it worse.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:51 AM
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I don't get what is wrong with coffee dates tbh. It might be stereotypical, but it doesn't mean it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:51 AM
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Yeah, I don't get why people would want to have a date in a fast food chain. Just...why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:50 AM
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I'm not well aware about fast food chains, so maybe I miss something. What do you find unreasonable in the list?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:05 AM
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Places (some) women refuse to go on a date. Tbh I don't think it's that unreasonable with the exception for coffee/ice cream dates, bowling, a bar just for drinks (if you both drink alcohol and comfortable doing so on the first date), maybe waffle house (have no idea of the quality or ambiance) and sport events depending on one's tastes. Food chains are just...not really romantic. It's okay if you're on a budget and you're teens or if you're both real fans of these places but otherwise it's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:53 AM
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"About time". Sorry, it wasn't really clear from my first comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:47 AM
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About time. I really love this movie, the main character is an awkward virgin who a) can take no as an answer, b) is determined in a good way (the woman is clearly interested in him, but due to outside circumstances he had to try again) and c) he's shown to be a great husband, father, son and brother. Also his family is goals and my husband and I always get emotional when we watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:38 AM
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Mods got tired from deleting men's comments under Q4Ws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:36 AM
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I don't think women hate shy or socially awkward people. They just don't gravitate to them or make it any easier for these men to date them. It is not hate though, it's just being...disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:21 AM
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There's halo effect, but it works for both genders. But there's also the opposite of it - we see hard-working, kind people as prettier than they are.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:20 AM
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There are not enough bodypositivity-related resources for men and it's seen as more acceptable to shame men in this context, I agree. I've been seeing more voices speaking against it, so I hope it'll change in foreseeable future. On another note, even though bodypositivity for women is pretty popular and widely accepted, there are still lots of negative content and comments about women's bodies. Anonymity brings the worst in people and social medias have been only making it worse.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:19 AM
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Not really. I haven't seen a lot of "they go only for jerks" scenarios outside of troubled people dating other trouble people independent of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:17 AM
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Who were the women? Where did you meet them?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 08:34 PM
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I'm glad you've survived your drug intake! How was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:25 PM
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Not gonna lie I think boys and men trying to create an impression of being "alpha male" online are funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:25 PM
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People think that bodyshaming is okay when the target is a "bad person". Which sucks. They don't realize that this kind of language and insults affect other people sharing these traits. But generally people go for low-hanging insults - it's weight, n-count and being single for women and dicks for men. Also to be fair I've seen a lot of people voicing the same thing during the scandal - bodyshaming isn't okay and it harms others. You shouldn't base your worldview on social medias. Do you know how…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:21 PM
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Well, stick to the communities where you get support you seek. If I were you, I'd stay away from any pill communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:17 PM
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I think it's a strategy (not necessarily conscious) to make women insecure so these men could date these women/better women. Or it's just sour grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:17 PM
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I'm really curious where you've managed to met so many women discussing small dicks.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:16 PM
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I don't think the first 2 are normalized. They're pretty common, sure, but a lot of people realize that it's poor taste and it's body shaming which isn't okay for any gender. On the other note, I've never really seen or heard people discussing these things in real life, these are mostly online things. You can easily find insults directed at your social group/ethnicity/gender/mocking some traits you have in social medias, it's part of the reasons why you should filter what content you're consumin…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 06:08 PM
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Yesterday in a park we overheard some guys discussing another girl walking past as "meh". Husband said they weren't on her level anyway lol. The girl was pretty - tall, sport-ish figure, just no hairstyle or makeup because she was going running. The guys were average but maybe slightly on a shorter side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:04 PM
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Good luck with your trip! You really should follow through with your comments btw - online platforms like this won't help you to find likeminded people nor you'll be able to really change anything. It's better to concentrate on yourself and what you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:47 PM
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We've talked yesterday and you deleted your account before I had time to reply to you. No, I'm not hurt - I don't have personal beef here. Children do have personalities they're born with, parents' job is to make sure they have the opportunity to flourish, but people are not blank canvas that you can push to either direction just by ideology and social pressure. Sex outside of marriage was shamed for a long time, people still had brothels, cheated on their spouses etc. I've asked you before what…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:01 PM
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Personality of babies are simpler, but they develop and evolve with time, they generally do not change to the opposite. For a person who knows a thing or two about how humans work, you seem be blissfully unaware why people do not want to entertain your ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:59 PM
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Ideal for you, not ideal objectively. Some want more, some want less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:39 PM
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Do you think people are born as blank canvas with no personality or traits of their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:38 PM
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Tbh I don't see anything particularly bad here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:50 PM
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Yeah, we talked about it. I think we should come in terms with the idea that people are different. Some are ready for LTRs and marriage pretty early on and a re lucky to meet a compatible partner. Others need time to grow into it and sometimes it takes a longer time to find your person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:48 PM
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Pill communities do have more people on the spectrum. It shouldn't be used as an insult, but it does explain certain behavioral patterns and a vast difference in experience.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 02:14 PM
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What are you talking about then? Are you the guy who thinks people should pair up and marry early?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:12 PM
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There's no one standards for all couples. People have different libidos and different circumstances, sex frequency generally goes down with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:09 PM
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So far the most compelling arguments I've seen against promiscuity is cheating rates, unwanted pregnancies and STDs. The latter 2 can be avoided with proper protection and tests and I'm not sure that the first one has causal link and it isn't correlation based on some underlying trait making these people not that stable for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:07 PM
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That's...not normal. Interestingly enough I know real-life stories like that with genders reversed. There's a group of Russian men "helping fathers" to get their kids back, that sometimes just kidnaps the kids. They helped a pedophile kidnap his kids as far as I remember. And a dude chopped off his ex-wife's hands. And chopped them into pieces so they wouldn't be able to sew them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:03 PM
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My husband's main love language is words of affirmation. I find it peculiar not because "men are not supposed to care", but because it's the least important thing for me personally, but I try to do my best to accommodate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:01 PM
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Men have lower risks of getting sexually harassed or assaulted. I do think that women get more help in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:57 PM
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You have to seek people who are open to getting to know others. By default most do not care about strangers, but under the right context it might work.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 01:56 PM
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I'm curious who rages about their personality here.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:54 AM
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So you can't or refuse to support your claims. I think we can end it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:54 AM
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I'm not talking about being saints, but about being logically consistent.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 01:53 AM
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Can you provide a link for your claim? It was quite a long time ago, but the last time I've checked the stats, the difference was rather small, but it might be the conviction rate, so I'm not sure. Talking about female leaders in the past when women generally had less rights than men doesn't show the current situation. If you want to talk about the past, we can talking about men's violence rates in the past as well. Again, can you give me the link? Tbh I haven't seen stats on this specific topic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:01 PM
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Again, you can find someone sexually attractive...and like spending time with them platonically because you like their personality and you have things in common. I'm not sure why you think these things are exclusive.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 06:58 PM
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Whether being a stay at home parent or not depends on how many kids you have, their ages and their health. If you don't have kids and you're a "stay at home spouse", you have very easy workload, you just cook and clean for 2 people. But if you have a toddler, a newborn and a primary school child, your partner working in an office most likely have it easier. If you have even one child with special needs...yeah, office is probably easier (depending on the condition). Outside of workload I think it…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:59 PM
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It's an example of black pillers being bad at debates and you keep proving my point.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:49 PM
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Change "platonically attractive" to "enjoying their company/lining them platonically". How you like your friends basically.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:49 PM
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If we agree that these things are not exclusive, I think claiming that men have female friends only because they want to bang them is false. Probably few men would refuse from an easy lay with a person whose company they already enjoy, but it doesn't prove that they all have ulterior motives in their friendships. I have a few male friends, but I don't really hang out with them that often, we all live in different parts of the world now. I used to hang out with one of them before, but as he's my …
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:48 PM
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It really depends on your definitions of blue, red and black pills. I don't agree with neither black or red pills, so by definition I'm blue. I do think appearance plays an important role in dating though, people should do sport and they have better chances if they hit the gym etc. A lot of things are common sense and black/red don't have author rights on that.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 05:46 PM
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Do you think "find sexually attractive" and "find platonically attractive" exclude each other?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:26 PM
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Where did I say someone should care about it?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:25 PM
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Do you think insults are morally just?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 04:24 PM
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Thanks for providing an example.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 03:46 PM
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All my male friends have been married for years and have kids. They're also older than I am, so it's more "younger sister - older brother" relationships. As we're all married, your proposal isn't something that I'd risk experimenting with. Also you can have sex or find a person sexually appealing...and be friends without having any sex. Having attraction to a person doesn't mean you don't like them platonically.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:58 PM
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Do you have friends? I have friends of both genders, I've never thought it was a controversial topic. We like each other's company, we share a lot of interests and we just like spending time together. You could call it using each other, but in this sense every human interaction is about "using" each other whether as a mean to get companionship or something else.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:53 PM
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I don't often get any replies with links to studies. Just personal beliefs based on whatever social media content they've been consuming.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:50 PM
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Well, I can say the reverse. Here I often get insults just for being a woman.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:49 PM
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It's pretty much the same with blackpillers here. Strawmanning, cherry-picking, sample bias, insults etc.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:57 PM
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Social skills affect how people perceive you. If you can't talk to people, they just have no chances to get to know you.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 01:55 PM
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As I've said - the caveat here is if you view abortions as murders. I don't. Women abuse kids slightly at higher rates than men which is surprising because women have much more access to children. There are more single mothers, more female teachers, which would lead to much higher abuse rates if basic probability was the same for both genders. I haven't seen any statistics on elderly abuse that was split by genders and there are not enough female leaders to talk about wars in modern times. The U…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:53 PM
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If he gets matches but can't get a date, the issue is probably in his texting. His main issue is using a dating app though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:43 PM
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It seems there was a rise in abortion rates in 2020, but the overall trend goes downside which is a good thing. When men do what? If men could get pregnant, they could abort their pregnancies too, I'm sorry you're missing out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:35 PM
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Where did you get that statistics? the abortion rate was 11.2 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm Also the "for people that view abortions as killing" is a major caveat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:56 PM
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People need balance - neither extreme is productive or sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 07:58 PM
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Truth to be told most people aren't great at relationships. It's a skill you have to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:59 PM
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I don't think everything has to be reduced to personal choices, we can and we should address these issues on multiple levels - we can push for changes and raise awareness on a scale of society and we can do our best personally. Incels seem to reduce the topic to "it's over, give up" or fantasies about the state falling apart and women "getting what they deserve" and neither approach is productive.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 06:31 PM
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I'd argue that the vast majority also are not good at traditional dynamic either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:28 PM
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Some people do want and they are good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:06 PM
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Not into sport so have no idea what you're talking. Also nowadays spouses can have pretty much the same responsibilities outside of childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:01 PM
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I'm sorry, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:25 PM
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These things do make a difference for one's dating life. It isn't a fool-proof method, sure, but it gives you better chances. Or rather it's the groundwork that you can base other things on.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:25 PM
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What's the real reason in your view?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:24 PM
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As I've said - works pretty well for couples I know and for my husband and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:39 PM
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You should.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:38 PM
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When I get sick, I start doing far less than usual. Husband always notices it. It's hard not to notice when you have to more chores suddenly or you get less affection from your partner because they're laying down with fever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:38 PM
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I've seen enough egalitarian relationships working pretty neatly. My own marriage too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:36 PM
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I think you'd be okay with all of it as long as the genders were reversed except for the second maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:16 PM
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I'm sorry, I think I'm still not getting you. Make the cake for others -> they'll be surprised and question what's wrong? Don't do anything for anyone -> they won't notice it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:15 PM
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Your partner can't, shouldn't and most likely doesn't want to be your sole source of companionship and human connection. You need other people in your life that you can reach to and rely on besides your partner. People want to feel special and they want to feel you like and love them. Not that you're desperate to use anyone willing enough to use as a placeholder or a plug for your hole. A lot of people also don't want to feel this kind of pressure on themselves and be your main source of joy. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:13 PM
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The state of your mental health is a more critical problem than your appearance. You do need therapy, but if you're vehemently against getting professional help you need or it isn't accessible for you right now, you should start with changes you can realistically afford and implement right now. Start with your sleep schedule. Not getting enough sleep sets your brain on fire and makes all issues you're going through much worse and it worsens your spiraling into obsessive thoughts as well. Check y…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:05 PM
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Take a break from any pill communities and concentrate on aspects of your life that you can change and make better. When you keep consuming content that makes you angry, jealous and hateful, it's no wonder you struggle with these feelings. It's the same as eating hamburgers and drinking coke all the time and complaining that you can't lose weight.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:58 PM
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So you can't.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:57 PM
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By "better" I've meant "makes you feel better". Your mental health and well-being depend greatly on things I wrote and, yes, these things are net positive. Do you really want to argue that a good sleep schedule or having friends are not net positive? Most things are contextual and a lot of things in our lives depend on the environment, family, our health etc. It does not mean you have absolutely no power and you cannot improve or make your situation better at all. There are still things that are…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:56 PM
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The vast majority of people probably does have a social circle and they meet people more naturally. But if you struggle with socializing, you have to put extra efforts into it.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 03:52 PM
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I think both partners should be interesting in romancing and enticing each other. It can become tedious if only one partner is expected to initiate all the time. But I'm not sure I get your first paragraph tbh, can you rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:51 PM
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Can you point out where I said "you can get sex if..."?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:49 PM
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Incel community could be of help if you met offline and were actually doing anything else besides...everything you see here.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 02:46 PM
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I have no idea what your second sentence means and you lost the connection between the subject and the predicate there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:58 PM
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Some people have easier time socializing and connecting with others, just as some people have better mental or physical health. If it isn't true for you, you have to put more efforts.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:57 PM
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We have more different responsibilities, but now at least we can get paid for our work and choose what we do. Imv it's objectively better than having no say in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:55 PM
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The solution would be seek a partner who actively participated in both things, but people seem to fail at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:54 PM
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Objectively it does make a difference. Your lifestyle has a great affect on your well-being and being isolated and lonely is bad for your mental health.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:53 PM
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Shitty on her part and isn't worth the time imv.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:52 PM
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You can have a social circle and a support net. You also can have fun with friends instead of rotting online.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:49 PM
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You can have low motivation to cook only for yourself, yep. But you still should feed yourself and low blood pressure/sugar are not forgiving lol. I cooked some fried potatoes for husband as well, but didn't eat them because was full myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:38 AM
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Take care of your mental health: sleep, diet, sport and therapy/meds if it's needed. Taking a break from social medias as well. Improve your social skills: initiate small talks as often as you can, talk to people around you and try to listen to them and remember what they're telling you so you could talk again with them etc. Put yourself out there. Go volunteering, go to some meetups, join church, whatever suits you better. In case of autistic spectrum there are therapists working specifically w…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:36 AM
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They might be just heavy evening eaters or they might be uncomfortable admitting that they do in fact eat like any other normal human beings. Let me count...so I ate a salmon sandwich, then one more with a runny egg, a few cookies, an apple and now pasta with chicken. Tbh I feel like I still wanna have a bite of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:32 AM
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Yep, I'm pretty sure they're men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:30 AM
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There are a lot of men who get these. I'm sorry you haven't experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:29 AM
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What's your issue with math?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:28 AM
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That's icky, yeah.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:28 AM
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I'm using the word similar to the one he used in his post.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:27 AM
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Let's stick to the chat.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 11:05 PM
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Living off compensation doesn't sound...exactly fun, does it? If you don't have to worry about money, you could pursue your hobbies or do anything else besides just...rotting online.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:53 PM
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"Don't want to go on a date" != the date was bad. But it's shitty anyway and I'm sorry for the poster. From one hand, she might have not wanted to go out at all. The issue isn't in him rather than she was just not in the mood. From the other hand, if she didn't want to go out with him, I have no idea why she'd agree to. Anyway, people overshare online and we forgot that we do not have to or need to share everything with everyone.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:52 PM
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Can you find anything else you'd like to do and you're capable to do? Given up completely so early is a bad, baaad option, you're gonna regret you wasted all this time later on.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:48 PM
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I mean the sense of being "slower" than you used to be. You can make up with some practice. You didn't really answer me though, why have you given up?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:43 PM
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We regularly get posts about positive things or posts with such ridiculous bias against men/women that you see posters arguing with it in the comments. Have you miraculously missed all of these posts and comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:16 PM
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It can be just a lack of practice - when you don't exercise your brain, it gets "weaker" just as your muscles. If you return to your studies, you can get improvement just from regular practice. Why have you given up? You're still young. That greatly explains your experience really. Algorithm show you the most inflammatory content that you react to and people generally share more about their negative experience rather than positive. Like...I have good marriage and so do lots of couples I know and…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:11 PM
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People who are in a hurry and have some strict deadlines do start view dating more analytically. It isn't the norm for everyone though. I'd guess that the majority of people meet their spouses "naturally", i.e. they date without being in a hurry to marry. I've seen it among younger people too - at least among my generation (middle-late 20s).
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:08 PM
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Tbh I haven't met any users who claim to have a healthy social life and no mental issues/problems.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:05 PM
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Well, you have more chances to get out. What's your friends' experience? What do you struggle with?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 09:04 PM
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Not really. Just as apps are pretty shitty at letting people to get to know each other, a video of a person doesn't do much for figuring out whether you'd be attracted to them or not. These women like the traits described - some would like a guy himself and some wouldn't. That's...not really how dating works for a lot of people. Not that many people are analytical about their dating and they usually "go with a flow". Sometimes there's attraction, oftentimes there's nothing. A person who is good …
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:57 PM
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It's what I've seen from multiple discussions here and that's what is stated in multiple posts and comments.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:54 PM
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You have it better than a lot of men here, good for you.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:53 PM
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Still even with arranged marriages people first meet at least a few times before they make the decision. Because it's important to actually spend time together. And most people are not going to have an arranged marriage and comments like "I marry him/her" are nothing more but exaggeration. No, there are aspects that cannot be compromised on like (not) having children. Some childfree women and men change their decision or try to go with their partner's desire...and some will regret it later on. Y…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:44 PM
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Do you want to deny OP's words that he doesn't see "normies" as people? Do you think it's "more humanizing"?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:36 PM
1

It helps a person not be isolated in their online spaces. You get out, go out somewhere together, do things together. Generally have a good time - it's good for your mental health. You have people who care for you and who support you, you have people who you care for and all of it is good for one's life-being.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:05 PM
0

I'm not saying that nothing is true, although some things clearly are false, but most things are heavily exaggerated and from interacting with men here it seems a lot of them are highly isolated - no friends, no people close to them they talk to on a regular basis etc.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:03 PM
1

That...is not enough data to marry someone. Even with arranged marriages people date for some time before they decide to marry or not. People exaggerate their reactions. We say that we could eat a horse, but it's clearly not the reality. You might be surprised, but men don't rush into marriage either. Dating and cohabitating prior marriage helps to see whether you're compatible and can make it work or not. Also the guy is in his 30s, he's clearly taking his time.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:02 PM
0

A lot of them are very isolated and are either have spectrum or some mental health issues that screw with the way they interact with people and the way they see the world. Some of them are also just very young and have already fallen into the blackpill hole. I knew a few men who chronically struggle with dating and even can image some of them posting on platforms like that. They do fit the categories I've listed above - isolated, troubled, have spectrum etc.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 07:00 PM
1

I'm sorry to hear that. How are you doing these days? Is it getting better or is it something permanent? What are your plans on the future? I thought you were younger than I am, but you're a bit older. Do you see things you're talking about among your family and friends?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:47 PM
1

Nah, dude, I don't think you're a woman, try better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:16 PM
-1

As I've said in my other comment - one of the biggest problems in this subreddit is a lack of real life experience. People base their worldview on a snippet of negative experience they have and online content, lots and lots of online content that algorithms give them.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:09 PM
1

Have fun LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:08 PM
1

Sure. I'm in my late 20s, I think the biggest difference here is the cultural difference - I'm from Asian background and from a more traditional culture, although most couples I'm close with are on an egalitarian side. Educated, on a higher end of middle class or lower end of upper-middle class. I'm from middle-class/upper-middle class family, but currently my husband and I are broke as church mice lol. An interesting thing is that we have roommates in a similar situation and with a similar outl…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:07 PM
1

Some people settle, sure. Dead bedrooms do not happen to the majority of relationships though and most couples have lots of sex in the beginning of relationships which gets lower with time. It's...normal. Life happens, your body doesn't produce as much hormones as it does in the infatuation stage, you get other priorities. You still have sex regularly and you still find each other attractive, it's just not constant lust. I'm really curious where you see these girls because it isn't something I'v…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:50 PM
1

*Some men. Just as some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:44 PM
-4

u/ropecelling, is this kind of "more humanizing views" you were talking about? Extreme worldviews generally do not help to accept, humanize or be more tolerant towards others.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:43 PM
1

There are high libido women and there are women who get higher libido in the beginning of relationships. There are also couples with relationship issues, health problems, kids that cause lower sex frequency.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:41 PM
1

There are some high libido women out there, but it isn't a given that they'd be compatible in other areas.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:23 PM
2

Depends on his preferences really. If sex frequency isn't something he wants to compromise on, he should seek a partner who has a similar libido.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 05:11 PM
19

I'm surprised how many people view inherit parts of relationships as tedious chores and things they have to "just go through with". For women it's usually sex, for men it's more often romance, dates and just spending quality time together. I guess they do enjoy other parts of their relationships or they just don't know any better so they put up with it. It probably happens because a) low compatibility, b) viewing relationships as a mean to get something (sex/money/kids/whatever) and c) long-exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:35 PM
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If you'd counted the replies to my post, you'd have seen that your experience doesn't 100% match the experience of other men. There are men who get help and support from women. Generally there are men who have positive experience with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:54 PM
77

Nope, we have it better than any other generation prior to us. It doesn't mean there aren't any things we should work on or issues with need solve. Moreover, people will always find things to complain about - it's the way our brains work, we tend to notice negative things more easily than positives and it's one of the ways we keep ourselves alive. I wouldn't say that current society is hostile to women. A better word would be toxic and isolating, but it's everyone's issue, not just women. We're …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:52 PM
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I'll keep repeating that no, your experience here does not account for all relationships/women out there. There are women who do help, support and share responsibilities with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:34 PM
1

Some pills make you lose libido or make it harder to get an orgasm, but not all of them have these side effects and not all people get this side effect.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 03:06 PM
0

I usually try to clarify what the other person is talking about instead of making assumptions. But personal attacks and refusal to engage in conversation in response are very common here, so I'm not surprised.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 03:04 PM
-4

As I've said in my other comment a lack of experience and negative experience do not help to "humanize" another group. How does society dehumanizie incels? Also I'm not complaining here, I'm arguing with the OP's point. It depends on a person. Some have tried their best and failed, some haven't even tried. Sticking to online communities isn't a healthy coping mechanism and most men here would benefit from taking a break from pill communities. What stops incels from having offline friends?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:59 PM
0

I'm talking about the OP's point. No, negative experience and a lack of experience do not help people to better understand another group or "humanize" them.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:55 PM
1

Do you really think most people would be okay marrying a stranger they commented online? When you see comments from men online saying they'd marry this or that girl, do you think that if she just appeared in front of them they would really take her to the courthouse to marry? Attraction is relevant, attraction depends on more things than just appearance and sometimes person's smell/mannerism/voice/the way they talk can kill or create attraction. For marriage there are even more things to conside…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:54 PM
-4

Well, a lack of experience is experience on its own, sure. It doesn't help you to "humanize" another group though. I think one of the biggest issues with discussions here is men's lack of experience of communicating with people in real life - both men and women. Lots of guys seem to be completely isolated and/or they perceive every social situation through their black lens and it's just...destructive for any kind of connection with others.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:37 PM
1

Nope. It isn't the kind of information we share with my friends or just women I know. I think I was asked about my husband's dick only once in real life and it was highly inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:35 PM
-4

My main point is that not all women who posted these comments would actually date him beyond the first/second date. Some will, sure, but some won't, because it's hard to estimate attraction without really meeting a person.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:34 PM
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Okay, do you think that everything people post online is true and they always behave the same way in real life as they do online?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:09 PM
1

It seems you don't know what trafficking is. Trafficking victims are deceived by false promises of love, a good job, or a stable life and are lured or forced into situations where they are made to work under deplorable conditions with little or no pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:06 PM
1

Can you link the stats? I've seen the stats from pew, but the number was lower. Also I'm not sure what I'm wrong about - I was talking about blue-collar workers, not just people in general.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:05 PM
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Depends on the context. I wouldn't want him to share graphic details of our sex life, but discussing sex/dating is okay-ish. Also public/community discussion is different to chatting with someone privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:03 PM
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Different people can have different sexuality. Also these comments do not mean that any of these women would really date this man. To figure out whether they're compatible or not or whether there's any sexual chemistry or not they'd have to meet him in person first.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:57 PM
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I'd argue that because incels largely do not have much connections or experience with women, they tend to objectify them more to the point where you think women are completely different to men, they villainize them to the greatest evil in the world and/or they view women primarily as a mean to get what they want - sex/intimacy/validation etc. Another point is that everyone who isn't red or black-pilled is blue-pilled by definition. There are people with lots of different beliefs around genders a…
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:55 PM
1

As I've elaborated in my other comment - with the same stats and family as I have now, I'd have low chances of becoming homeless/getting suicidal etc. But I do think that both men and women have issues, neither gender has it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:34 PM
1

Eh...that's weird. I'm all for sharing costs but in this context it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:33 AM
1

Depends on a person. I wouldn't date a person with a number higher than 5 maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:31 AM
3

I don't need to be asked to express my opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 04:22 AM
1

That's the common sense prerequisite.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:35 AM
1

She was groomed. End of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:22 AM
1

You should read my comment again. Sure, you don't choose to stay single if you have no options. If you do date someone, you must have chosen to date them. No one can force you to date them against your will.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 12:21 AM
1

I'm sorry you go through it. What do you do?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:39 PM
1

Oh, great. I'd ask him for more time tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:39 PM
1

Can you ask your classmates? Also for the future - you probably should have asked her in person and shouldn't have waited till the last day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:29 PM
1

I wonder what gay men think about penises and sizes. What are their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:26 PM
1

There are some women who buy sex, but I'd guess their number is much lower than their male counterparts. Also the idea of getting fingered by a stranger is just...eeewwww.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:25 PM
1

The link you've included states "couples only". Is it...swingers' resort or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:11 PM
1

Men really don't get the idea that they they think about penises way more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:00 PM
2

Yes, but I don't think the OP will get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:48 PM
1

I've seen Russian men advocating for marrying women from Philippines/Thai/Vietnam because they're more traditional and aren't demanding. I find it rather ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:42 PM
5

There's a difference between changing your mind and lying about your intentions from the beginning. And yes, men (and women) can be manipulative in order to get what they want.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:37 PM
1

Can you give examples of this leading you're talking about? My husband and I are egalitarian and pretty much nothing you're talking about here is applicable to us. We both work, we do chores, no, we do not subscribe to "happy wife happy life", we both can make mistake, admit it and apologize. We make decisions together, neither has to shoulder the load on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:35 PM
5

The major caveat in OP's logic is that most people do not know about others' dick sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:04 PM
1

Men still have to initiate more often than not and they're generally expected to pay for dates, although there are women who approach and women who split/share/pay in turns for dates. Outside of religious communities people do not expect a man to ask his partner's parents for permission to marry her or be "the leader", most couples have 2 working partners and in almost half of marriages men are not main/sole breadwinners. Most women are not SAHMs either. There are still more men in politics, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:04 PM
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Once again, the OP's point is majorly about how other people perceive you. I do think that a lot of men worry about their penis sizes and men who are below average have it harder than men who are above average. It isn't the part I was arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:58 PM
2

He talks about people in general. People in general do not care about other people's dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:43 PM
1

Some people do discuss details like this, but I doubt they use it as their main or major point in forming opinion about something. Also I doubt sharing penis sizes is that common. People can discuss sex without giving too much details.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:42 PM
1

His point is based on a wrong premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:40 PM
1

That's a lot of text without much substance. Can you give examples of women submitting to men and explain why these examples can't be flipped?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:26 PM
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It might surprise you, but most people go around with their lives without thinking on penises of others. I know only my husband's size and I have no reason to be curious, know or judge penises of all other men I know because, well, I'm not going to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:24 PM
1

So we were talking about different kind of choice. Yes, not everyone can choose to date someone. We all still need the other person to choose us which returns us to the idea that men do choose who they date IF they date anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:22 PM
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To be fair these days there are just less blue-collar workers as well. Not sure how it would affect on their dating life.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:21 PM
1

If I remember correctly, divorce rates are higher among couples with lower income. Financial issues are taxing on relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:19 PM
1

Ah, no, sorry, I was talking about the post to whose comment I originally replied. It seems he thinks that only physically demanding jobs are "REAL", so I wonder how many incels perform this kind of jobs in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:18 PM
1

I think I haven't expressed myself clearly - the OP talks about jobs being real and it seems he thinks that only physically demanding jobs are real or only jobs that are stereotypically male jobs. I'm curious how many incels hold physically taxing occupations.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:17 PM
1

I know you don't believe me, but it doesn't make the experience of reading your comments any less surreal. Currently we live with roommates, my husband works much shorter hours than I do and our male roommate hasn't been working at all for more than a month now. So it's basically me and our female roommate (his wife) paying for the bills, food and most of other expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:00 PM
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It's a common stereotype that blue-collar men do not struggle with dating. Tbh I don't know any man performing some physically hard labor that is also chronically single. But personal experience is very limiting and I don't think there's any stats on the topic.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 07:56 PM
1

My point is that it's a false analogy. People generally don't enjoy being homeless, there are people who enjoy being single. Also you need a job for your well-being and often even a shitty job is better than nothing. It generally doesn't work the same way with human relationships, as it's better to be single than date someone abusive.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 07:55 PM
1

Ah, got it. I think NEETs are overrepresented in incels communities, but I doubt that the majority of incels don't have any job, they do have to live somewhere and eat something. But my main point was that if the OP puts very strong filters on what a REAL job is, the majority of incels probably don't have a real job by his own standards either.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 07:53 PM
1

What occupation do you prefer more?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 07:52 PM
1

Well, I don't have much besides personal experience. I don't think there's much statistics on incels and the last poll about one's occupation didn't get much traction. It's reasonable to think that NEETs are overrepresented among incels at least according to their own words, but the majority has to work.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 07:52 PM
1

Work is a choice, yes. Forced labor is considered illegal. Being single doesn't make you homeless though, you still can lead normal life.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:59 PM
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From what I've read it doesn't seem that there are a lot of incels performing hard labor jobs. There are some with low-paying jobs but no plumbers/electricians etc.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:59 PM
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I wonder whether there's any difference between the 2 groups.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:58 PM
1

I guess your parents were farmers? Mother and father?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:56 PM
-2

Can you elaborate?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:54 PM
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I'm always curious how many incels do have these REAL jobs they're talking about. From what I've seen blue-collared men do not struggle with dating, they have partners and families.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:15 PM
-1

You can always stay single and quite often it's a better option.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:14 PM
1

I have no idea how we measure it. From one hand, you have to make compromises and prioritize your partner, sometimes above your desires and wishes. From the other, ideally it shouldn't feel like hard and exhausting labor and your everyday life should be generally pleasant to live together. There are periods of time where you have to persevere and go through tough time together, it's important to remember that you're a team and not competitors. There are also periods when you have to consciously …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:12 PM
1

Statistics and studies are more reliable than one's personal observation and experience due to the sample difference and methodology. They are not ideal and they are no 100% objective, but they are more reliable than personal experience.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:07 PM
0

You cannot date a person who refuses to date you, so yeah, everyone chooses.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 06:06 PM
1

It's interesting to see some men here claim that men have no power, no authority and no choice in their relationships with women and then see a man claiming that women submit to men everyday. Answering your question - some do, but all of these things are not black and white, there's gradation. A woman from a 3d country has far less resources to help herself if she gets abused by her spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:05 PM
1

They're more reliable than your estimate based on the content you consume online.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:25 PM
5

If you don't want to and you still can provide the basics for yourself, it's fine. The current system doesn't really work for a lot of people and maybe "silent protests" will do something in the long run, although I really doubt it. I'd still advise to find things you enjoy and seek some offline community to keep connections with people. Humans are social creatures, we need to feel as a part of community.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:24 PM
1

Fine? It doesn't change the average.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:17 PM
1

Again, there's a difference between having anecdotal experience outside of statistical average and claiming that 90% of people you know are very far off from this average.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:15 PM
1

Well, I don't claim that 90% of women have never had casual sex.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:11 PM
1

Do you know personal dating details of most women you know closely? There's statistical data. If one's personal experience goes too far from the average and they claim their experience is very common, most likely it's the question of bias and perception.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:09 PM
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I'm really curious why he decided to do the test 24 years later. I feel sorry both for him and his son, it's an awful situation to be in and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:07 PM
-1

I really doubt that 90% of women you know personally have done what you're describing unless you have a very peculiar social circle. The average n-count both for men and women is still pretty low.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:05 PM
0

The group that experiences issues has to push for the change. You can't force women to be better partners, but you can choose who you date. It works the other way as well. I do think women should initiate more and split the costs of dates, that's what I did, but I can't make all other women do the same.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 05:05 PM
1

I'm explaining that it isn't something I feel defensive about or something I feel the need to lie about - I'm an observer in this situation and I don't really see what you're describing in my social circle. That's why I'm asking what kind of women you're talking about. Are these women you know personally?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:46 PM
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Don't make it personal. This whole situation isn't something I have first-hand experience or even something I've witnessed in real life.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:42 PM
1

Decriminalization without legalization is the middle ground imv. It still leaves people with a choice, but it doesn't create the incentive. What's vague about trafficking?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:42 PM
1

What kind of women are you talking about? Are they your friends/family? I don't have any personal ground here considering I've never even had casual sex. I'm talking about what I see around me though and it's vastly different to what you're describing.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:40 PM
1

Most women don't want to exchange sex for money. Sex is supposed to be this fun intimate activity and you can't buy sexual attraction. Also lots of us see selling sex as demeaning and dehumanizing. There's a minority of women interested in relationships like this, but the majority would view it as prostitution with extra steps. Women's body women's choice, sure. Some choose to sell sex, but there are studies showing possible link of legalization and trafficking and trafficking isn't about one's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:22 PM
-1

Well, men should stop dating these women. Complaining alone won't solve much.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:16 PM
-4

Courtship exists in religious societies, but secular people usually engage in "dating" and "getting to know each other". We usually do not call it courtship. The obsession with Chad treatment is interesting. I think that a) yes, some men get casual sex easier because of their appearance and demeanor, it doesn't necessarily mean these men are assholes, some of them are great men that are pleasant to spend time with and b) it's very contextual. Some people will have sex the first night because the…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 04:15 PM
1

I think most women do not want to have sex with a person they're not attracted to and most women don't engage in any kind of prostitution. I support decriminalization, but not legalization. The latter seems to have a link to higher trafficking rates and frankly speaking I don't think we should create more incentive for women to engage in sex work. I hope in the future robots and AI will push women out of sex work market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 04:12 PM
3

Yep. I view sex as something that you shouldn't buy or sell, but share with a person you're in love with or at least feel strong physical attraction to. Monetizing it kills libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:00 PM
2

Good, it gets boring after a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:58 PM
3

I wouldn't want to have kids with a man who had to pay me to sleep with him, the idea itself disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:55 PM
-13

What courtship are you talking about and what's demeaning about it?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:54 PM
3

I think people should choose for themselves. I think this kind of relationships has too many red flags and it isn't something I'd engage in. But I can see that unfortunately for some women it's one of few chances to get out of the situation they're in. It's depressing, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:49 PM
1

Well, incels are significant enough threat for the state to keep the watch on them. Indoctrination of the youth is another worrying factor.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 01:50 PM
0

The rate is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:47 PM
4

If I get the same stats as I have now, I'd have pretty low chances of becoming homeless, jailed or suicidal. The risk of getting drafted is real though, but it's less certain than getting pregnant and having to go through birth if you want to have biological children. To clarify I don't think either gender has it good. We all have our own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:47 PM
4

Men have lower risks, but they also get less help if they do get sexually assaulted. It's the deal I'd take over having higher risks and more help in case it does happen. Neither is ideal of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:44 PM
7

It creates a fertile ground for abuse and mistreatment in general. Not all couples with imbalanced power have these things, but seeking this type of relationship intentionally can indicate that a person is seeking someone vulnerable to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:43 PM
1

I'm curious what the stereotype it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:42 PM
6

Crime rates have been all time low and women have the most opportunities compared to the times before. What are you talking about? Btw this is kind of attitude people are talking about when they call incels violence and say that incels should be on the watch.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 12:41 AM
5

I've never had casual sex so I can't share any personal experience here, but I think women who do use this strategy want to confirm to a more traditional and still very common worldview of women sleeping early with a man being too easy and not worthy of long-term relationships. You can see it as being insecure or manipulative, but it is a result of slut-shaming and men parroting the idea that a woman shouldn't "spread her legs too easily".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:40 PM
16

Pursuing relationship dynamic where you have all the power and your partner depends on you for multiple reasons is...concerning, but you can date abroad without having weird power play and I don't think that going abroad to date is inherently bad. I'm also from a country that is somewhat known for its "brides" and I find the idea of looking for a woman from a foreign and more traditional culture without getting to know this culture and living in this country for awhile rather naïve and potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:38 PM
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There are 2 possibilities: These women do not want to have an LTR. You are not a good option for an LTR. Good enough for sex, not good enough for relationships. Most likely it's the mix of the 2. Some are not interested in LTRs at the moment and some don't see dating you long-term. I'm from the "annoying women making men wait for sex", because I need time to feel attraction and feel secure with a person. There's nothing really I can do about it, but from what I've read most women are not demi an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:33 PM
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That's a tradeoff, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:29 PM
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You must have missed gimpgirl on PPD then and multiple arguments between PPD women and her. There's also lacuty woman or smth, although I think it's a man larping. I've been debating with a woman today and, well, I'm a woman myself and I've also argued with the OP of "men bring nothing to the table" and generally I manage to get into debates with women pretty often, the difference is that they usually stay civil and we can find a common ground. Having said that and to address your main point, no…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:18 PM
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Testicles do no bleed or cramp each month.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:06 PM
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I think if I have any say for choosing the stats for my next life, I could try out living as a man. Most likely I would not want to deal with periods, period pain, pregnancy and giving birth again. It would also save me from attempts of sexual assault and from going through sexual harassment. I do like being a woman though - it's the only experience I know and I've grown close to my current body and the way people perceive me. I have husband who likes me as I am now and who probably would not da…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:00 PM
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There's the issue of atomization, sure. Shouldn't we strive to push against it? You view online anecdotes through your personal bias and perception though as well as through the algorithm giving your the content you react the most.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 09:55 PM
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Do you think the majority of men maliciously held women captive for most part of the written human history? Or that most men had the say in it? Setting this question aside it sounds like you blame currently living men for the wrongdoings of all men prior to them and evil things some men do these days and that's why you refuse to acknowledge their issues. Although in the context of legal equality and women having far more opportunities than before it doesn't really make much sense imv. These days…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:54 PM
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Eh, as I've said it feels weird to jump to "I'm married" when it isn't explicit flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:49 PM
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To be fair I had some experience with men thinking that "husband isn't a wall, he can move". There's a saying like that in Russian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:49 PM
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Advice to travel isn't a bad advice, but I'm not sure it's attainable for people who have issues with their every day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:57 PM
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Eh...it was generally an unpleasant experience, I have not got neither confidence or security out of it tbh. Strange men hitting on me do not provide security to my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:56 PM
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I get flustered when strangers talk to me. Two years of covid and relocation can do that to a person I guess. Add language barrier to the mix as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:55 PM
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You see relationships as a job for men, hence I've asked why you'd want one if you have this attitude. How many men do you know who get FWB like that on a regular basis? I used to know a guy who had no issues getting casual sex, but it usually was ONSs and he wasn't...very happy about some of them. Lol. I see your point, I don't think we should continue that, the delusion is way too deep here. I will say that I've never been able to feel attraction on the spot and have never had casual sex parti…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 08:53 PM
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The funniest thing is that I started thinking about ppd immediately after. I got approached, it was a bit uneasy, but the dude didn't get cops called on him or filmed or called a creep!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:49 PM
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As I've said he wasn't explicit, so it felt weird to jump to "I'm married". Instead of I finished with strawberries, blurted something and walked away really fast. I think he wanted to approach me again, but saw me with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:46 PM
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Like...he wasn't explicitly hitting on me, it was all under the guise of sharing a recipe, but it was also clear why he wanted my phone number. All while my husband was right in the same building lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:39 PM
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My main question here is why people stick to apps when these apps clearly don't work for them. They suck for most people, why the hell do they keep using them? And everything else is really hard if even possible to prove, it mostly lies in one's perception, bias and social circle.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 08:38 PM
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And here's where we disagree fundamentally. Patriarchy harms both men and women, men did have more rights than women in the past, but it isn't true for most Western countries these days. Gender roles are perpetuated by both genders. Men don't decide on their own that they want to have poor mental health due to a lack of healthy coping mechanisms, society teaches both men and women what behavior we should expect from men and both men and women punish men who don't confirm to this behavior. It's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:36 PM
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Stalkers do not love the objects of their desires, they know what they're doing is harmful, but they keep doing it. Quite often they're also violent and they do attack the person they're stalking. It is not love, it's obsession. Bodycount is more about social standards and expecations imv, but in reality both genders care about n-counts to a certain degree. Men have more freedom here because sex isn't seen as something "tainting" them. which from my point of view doesn't sound romantic That's so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:34 PM
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To the talk about cold approaching I got approached in a grocery store picking strawberries while husband was picking meat. One of the weirdest small talks so far because the dude was very insistent on getting my number to share the pie recipe. I just...fled lol. I'm not good with small talks, I'm even worse with men hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:30 PM
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Welcome, it's gonna get only worse. Now you don't have to worry about the housing and provision at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:28 PM
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Cats are merciless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:27 PM
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Exactly. I don't really see these kind of relationships often in real life and I don't even know that many women who are/were actively into casual dating scene. Most couples I know have people who dated mostly/only exclusively and monogamously.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:41 PM
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I think we're going into the ground "what is good" which is a whole another philosophical and ethical issue. I think we can stop at the idea that women are ascribed to have certain qualities and people do believe in stereotypes whether they want it or not. Becoming aware of one's bias takes a level of self-reflection that most people don't seem to exhibit. I realize that I'm biased towards women...and I'm not sure what to do about it tbh. I have largely more positive experience with women than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:39 PM
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It's more on him to decide really. It isn't something I would advise to get into, as it's a fertile ground to breed resentment, but I also really doubt how often it really happens and there's a whole range between what you're describing and what the OP describing. Thinking in absolutes doesn't help. Most women aren't into casual sex scene and they don't really want to get into LTRs with men they are not attracted to. Also being FWB with one person and wanting something more from the other is val…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:35 PM
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I don't buy the idea that there are men who get this kind of treatment on a regular basis. There are some women who can behave like this but they're a minority and it mostly depends on women's psychology, libido and well-being rather than on a man. Why strive for relationship if you see it purely as a job?
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:32 PM
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It works this ways for both genders. Society has been defining what masculinity is just as much as it's defined what femininity is. Yes, men on averaged enjoyed more rights than women, but it's been changed for quite some time at least in the Western countries. There's still a strong push on both genders to confirm to their gender role and I'd argue men experience more of it because they don't have anything close to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:30 PM
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Yep, another side of the issue here is that after some time this kind of girl will be seen as clingy, annoying and desperate. The OP might enjoy it for some time, but in the long-run this behavior is neither sustainable or something you can build stable relationship on.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:27 PM
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I don't watch or play any sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:14 PM
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I think you can have a healthy outlook on relationship and be content with what you have as long as you have realistic expectations. I don't get the idea of pining for unattainable and getting bitter over it.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 06:13 PM
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That sounds like a mental health issue and she needs some professional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:03 PM
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Women disproportionally have reactive desire. We usually get all horny in the beginning of relationships due to the rush of hormones, but in long-term relationships the tsunami gets into a steady stream. You also get comfortable the more time you spend together and the more you get to know each other. Keep being nervous isn't a good sign. What I don't get is...why torture yourself with unrealistic expectations? In the same way you could imagine how you're one of the richest people out there havi…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 05:59 PM
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There's a lot of negative content about men and extremely negative content in the lines of "kill all men" gets reposted and shared because it's, well, ridiculous, but enough people try to justify it. If we call manifestation of misogyny exhibited by women internalized misogyny, I see no reason why we wouldn't call toxic masculinity internalized misandry. Both things are results of internalizing gender roles and how you should police yourself and others to conform to their gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:55 PM
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I don't really get the link between this comment and your previous one. So do you think being empathetic is seen as positive because women are more empathetic or women are seen as "better people" because they're more empathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:48 PM
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Oh, I got your point. Then we come to the whole another level of discussion - which traits are good/better to have and which are not, but I think few people would argue which trait is better between caring and uncaring or violent and less violent or nurturing and neglecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:58 PM
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I think in the context of western countries we should discuss misandry and misogyny together. Feminism does a pretty poor job differentiating between itself and "kill all men" attitude which gives people pushing against women's rights a very easy target. Also it's wrong to see misogyny and misandry as something done entirely by the other gender, both are perpetuated by both genders. What we call toxic masculinity is a type of misandry and we do have to address women's role in it. I'm not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:54 PM
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As you've said "better" is subjective and it can mean a bunch of different things to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:49 PM
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My stance is that misandry and misogyny affect each other and we can't get rid of one without addressing the other. Yes, they have different outcomes, but at least if we're talking about western countries, these outcomes are still interconnected. We could all benefit from helping men not to become another statistics in crime/addiction/homelessness rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:00 PM
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Men literally risk their lives for sex and love. I'm curious what you're talking about here. There are multiple apsects in relationship between a poorer woman from a 3d world country and a westerner that aren't there in an average relationship. Hence I don't think it's a fair comparison or comparison that makes much sense. Women generally do not seek men who have less social standing than then do in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:36 PM
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing here. WOW effect is about ascribing better traits and behavior to women, it doesn't necessarily pronounce them better people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:26 PM
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We don't really have enough information about social structure in prehistoric times to speculate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:25 PM
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I don't think it's a good equivalent. A poorer woman depends on her partner financially and she might be isolated from her friends and family if she relocates with him. She also might be providing for her family, so it's not only her being dependent. Comparing it to men's issues of letting go a bad partner because they might struggle dating again...isn't the right decision imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:24 PM
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That's not what I've said. Also beggars can't be choosers.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 03:22 PM
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I don't think that playing the tug of war trying to decide who has it worse is productive for either group. It would be more productive to remember that each issue fuels another. Neither misogyny or misandry exist in their own bubble perpetuated only by one gender. Both things are the wrongdoings (although usually not intentional) of both genders. Concentrating on seeking the middle ground and addressing both genders' issues would lessen everyone's load. For example, men clearly need mental heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:14 PM
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Does anything of it contradicts the idea that most men are partnered and have friends? Young men seem to be disproportionally single, but it shouldn't stop them from having friends.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:59 PM
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There are studies showing it does help people, so it's good that it's not up to you I guess. What alternative would you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:54 PM
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It's an interesting topic - some instances of women's failings are getting ignored or rushed under the rug, while in other cases even when it isn't their wrong-doing they get blamed for certain actions. I'd guess the difference lies in the gender role - as long as it's something around kids women are held more accountable than men. But domestic abuse with a female perpetrator goes against the idea of a man being in an active strong role and it flips to be his wrongdoing although it's objectively…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:54 PM
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I'd like to see stats on it. There are far less single fathers to start with, I'd be surprised to see that the number of women not paying child support is greater than the number of men. You could use the same logic - some men's rooms look awful. Most women prefer to have female roommates and I'd guess a lot of men would prefer to live with a female roommate if they had a choice, but I might be wrong here. There are certain qualities and behavior that is more common among women rather than men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:50 PM
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Neither gender has a bias purely for existing. But there are biases based on gender roles and our stereotypes of men and women. Men are considered to be more rational, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:45 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:59 PM
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Nah, women creating trashy content "short men aren't men" etc. are trashy themselves and I wouldn't defend them. It's different to having a preference though. Just as you can have a preference for n-counts without being judgmental about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:51 PM
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By default we all have this power at least to a certain extent - we all can leave our relationships if we're mistreated. Of course, if we don't talk about abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:50 PM
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It's good to clarify what the other person means before engaging in a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:47 PM
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How does posting about your bf height equate to judging men for their insecurity? "My partner is xx' " isn't judgmental by itself, even saying "I prefer to date men taller than xx' " isn't judgmental. Insulting people who don't pass your preferences is judgmental.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:46 PM
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Okay, if we use this chart, I'd say that most men I know are somewhere between 4 and 7 which makes sense as most people are close to being average. They have friends, family and most have partners who care for them. They also care for their loved ones and they write to their friends even if it's just sending some memes. They go out with their girlfriends/wives and with their friends, they have family celebrations etc. Having no friends and being isolated is not the norm, it's the consequences of…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:45 PM
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What do you mean by having power/leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:40 PM
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It's more about shitting on other women in the attempt to deal with your issues/insecurities/get male attention. I think you want to talk about hypocrisy of having height standards and not liking other people calling you a dwarf, but it's hypocrisy only if you yourself call short people names.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:38 PM
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Don't date trashy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:36 PM
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Not as good as raw, but I'm not sure why people prioritize "feels good" over health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:34 PM
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She's a minor and she's most likely influenced by adults around her. Even if it makes her feel special, it's still detrimental for her health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:33 PM
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I think we should prioritize our partners but not to the expense of our own well-being. Everything is good in moderation. I'm happy to cook whatever he wants, but not when I'm sick or exhausted. He's happy to get my snacks or cook what I want, but, again, not when he's sick or exhausted etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:00 PM
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I think her point is that it doesn't make much sense really and you can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:59 PM
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I know and I'm fine with it. I already have enough restrictions in my diet. I do my best to get sugar from not highly processed food though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:57 PM
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No 11 years old has a "happy" pregnancy, what the hell. At this age it isn't the question of "happy", it's the question of health and there are all sorts of risks tied to being pregnant at this age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:53 PM
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Yeah, that would be a dealbreaker. I doubt I'd enjoy always being the initiator and I like having some variety and experiments in our bedroom. I doubt we could do it if he wasn't interested in sex in the first place. I'd have no issues with lower frequency as long as he was initiating half of the times though and still wanted to try different things out though. Let's say...every other day is ideal, but I could leave with once a week if the session was long and intensive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:58 PM
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It's hard to differentiate between one's bias and pure experience, sure. No, I'm saying that people whose experience goes against common stereotypes often feel inadequate. I get this feeling too - Russian stereotypes about gender roles made me feel rather...ridiculous and it took some time to figure out that it wasn't "me" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:55 PM
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I agree - men and women have different privileges and issues often coming from their privileges. Neither gender has it all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:53 PM
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Why do you think men performed these tasks on their own and women did never perform them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:52 PM
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Thanks for a thoughtful reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:59 PM
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I am not really sure about it. Men do gossip and men do try to destroy someone through gossips. One doesn't need WAW effect to start rumors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:58 PM
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As I've said - I don't think people really check the stats or form their opinion based on the statistics. There's a stereotype that women are more nurturing, less dangerous and more caring and whatnot. It follows gender roles and a lot of people get confirmation of this stereotype from their lives experience. Of course, people who have opposite experience feel alienated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:56 PM
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If you think men used to be the only one doing heavy labor task, you should read about farming, for example. Or how society kept running when most men went to the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:54 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:49 PM
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What do you mean by gynocentric? In manosphere it usually means that society caters to women more than men, but I don't think it's true. Society is biased both towards men and women just in different aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:49 PM
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Basically women are seen as better people and expected to behave like better people. I remember a Russian story about a father abandoning his child in an airport...everything asked where the mother was and how she had allowed it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:46 PM
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Humans are social creatures. We've managed to survive and evolve because we can cooperate, both men and women need to be a part of society for their well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:45 PM
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He can't fulfil his basic needs because he can't connect with people. CBT could help to develop the skills needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:44 PM
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So...no, you didn't guess correctly.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 10:07 PM
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Eh, men engaging into these things as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:06 PM
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I don't think the rates of death penalty matter in the discussion of crime committing rates. As long as a person is convicted for the crime, they're a part of stats independent of the length or severity of their sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:04 PM
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You're welcome :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:02 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:02 PM
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What is social violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:01 PM
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That's why I wrote that we can argue how reasonable or fair it is. It makes sense to say that women are better at certain aspects, it becomes problematic when we overgeneralize. Less pain? I remember reading about something opposite of it - i.e. women get less pain medication because they're seen as too emotional and that they're overreacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:00 PM
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He's a bit taller than average, but when we met he was very skinny.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:57 PM
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Eugenics is mostly about the state deciding who breeds and who doesn't. Personal choices have little to do with it.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:57 PM
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Can you give me some examples of women seeing men they are not attracted as "less than human"? How is it shown practically?
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:57 PM
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I get it, but I think relying that heavily on other people's perception is a bad way to deal with your insecurity.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 09:22 PM
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Yes, I am a woman and I'm not sure what the first paragraph has to do with my post. I was talking about random strangers living with you and, well, when you cohabitate you are not strangers anymore. It also isn't just the safety issue, I think sharing your place with a woman is easier than with a man. Oh, you're pro-life. I'm not going to discuss this under this context, I don't think it's productive. I do think that preventing a birth of an unwanted child is better than forcing a woman to keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:21 PM
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I'll check out the studies, thanks! Do you think it affects murder sentences? It isn't a crime that is easy to "wave off" and I think men score much higher in this regard anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:08 PM
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It depends on what kind of traits and behavior we're talking about. Objectively women do commit far less violent crimes and perform most of childcare, care for the sick and elderly. Saying that women are less violent and more nurturing isn't sexist imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:04 PM
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Does it work this way for you? Do you see women you are not attracted as "less than human"? I'm not attracted to almost all people around me with the exception for my husband. I still see them as human beings.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:45 PM
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I like being complimented about my personality rather than appearance, although both type of compliments are nice. I like when people acknowledge my efforts to take care of them and validate that I'm a good spouse/friend etc. For some reason my FiL gives the best compliments, he said I'm iron-willed and he's absolutely fascinated with my mother and wrote about it to my husband saying that he did the right choice and I'm a lot like my mother which is true.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:42 PM
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Considering that I've ever dated only my husband, that's far less than 20% of men lol.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:39 PM
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Eugenics is about "improving genetic quality of nation", hence the filtering of people who can and cannot breed. Personal choices based on this reasoning can be called eugenics, but most people don't really do it and just go for partners they find attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:38 PM
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What do you mean by dehumanization? Also no, personal choices are not eugenics.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:24 PM
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Women are wonderful effect has been studied for quite some time. It seems we ascribe better traits and behavior to women, although we could argue how reasonable and fair it is. I'd say that seeing women as less threatening is valid considering violent crimes statistics. If I had to choose between living with a random woman or a man, I'd pick a woman like most other people really. Women are still seen as more nurturing and caring and I'd guess it's true to a certain degree, but I'm not sure how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:19 PM
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I don't think she's implied that unplanned pregnancy is good. Rather that conditioning to view pregnancy as something bad can be hard to shake off even when you can and want to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:10 PM
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if (person != husband && personIsFlirting) { return(rejection); }
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 06:13 AM
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What do youean by being chivalrous and who's really expecting that?
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:59 AM
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People have to seek compatible partners, yes. It's surprising that it has to be spelt out, but it seems there are too many people who think they can make it work by trying to change their partner. From what I've seen most people seek aox of traditional and modern gender roles. Most coupled I know are on an egalitarian side: both partners work, both do chores, both have the decisive power in their relationship. Women still tend to do slightly more chores and childcare and men do most of car maint…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:57 AM
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It's a really recent study and it doesn't seem you can access full text online which is a pity, because you do have to read the methodology before you jump to conclusions.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 10:00 PM
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On a personal note, I work from home and barely post any photos online. I get occasional "hey, pretty", but not that often and I just block them. I don't think any of my male friends have some unrequested feelings for me - they're on the older side and married for years. It's more "older brother" kind of relationships. Most women I know closely don't find having orbiters pleasant and they cut them off. If you've rejected a man, there's a reason for it and having someone bugging you with flirting…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:57 PM
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I guess it depends on just how many people she meets regularly. If one's occupation or hobbies don't involve meeting a bunch of new people all the time, you probably don't have many/any orbiters. Especially if you're not that active on social medias/don't post much photos/your pages are closed for strangers etc.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:53 PM
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I guess my "football teams" are invisible. On a serious note though - no. Some women just reduce/cut contact with people who have unrequested feelings for them, and you greatly overestimate how desperate and thirsty men are.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 09:39 PM
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Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:11 PM
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Did you get your kids tested? Also continuing your logic people should buy goods from trusted stores in the first place. Most people don't go and get their product tested anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:09 PM
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The state already has all the power for this kind of abuse anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:04 PM
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To add to the paternity test discussion. I'd support mandatory paternity tests if they went with a universal DNA database. It would make easier to find criminals, find real fathers (and relatives in case of need) and would be a huge help to researches working with DNA. Realistically most likely we won't see it implemented. It isn't something the state greatly benefits from and if some men have doubts, they can seek the test on their own. I get both sides - from one hand, yes, men don't have this…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:00 PM
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You should read some of his posts and comments here. He needs therapy, but as many other troubled and isolated men, he loathes the idea of it and probably won't reach for the help he needs. One of the worst traits of mental health issues - they stop you from reaching out and make it much much harder for you to seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:53 PM
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Appearance does matter and Halo effect is real. Other things also come to play and there's the opposite effect of Halo, when we see kind and hard-working people as more attractive than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:01 PM
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You don't realize how a proper experiment has to be conducted, what sample bias is or what cherry-picking is. I guess there's no point in continuing this discussion. Btw I've never used a dating app nor most women I know. You get a specific subset of women on apps, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:59 PM
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You should apply this advice to yourself really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:56 PM
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Life isn't black and white, sure. Cheating is just not something I deem acceptable, my partner can deal with or leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:01 PM
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No, I mean women looking good gender-reversed usually have a stronger bone structure which is usually considered more masculine. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:00 PM
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Sure, it's within your code of ethics, I wouldn't doubt that. I do think that you are not the person to talk about honor or integrity though, because you were ready and willing to fuck up another man big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:59 PM
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You don't need to fall in love to screw your partner. There are men who have kids "on a side" traumatizing both sets of families. And, well, cheating alone is a valid reason for a breakup or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:57 PM
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Nah, cheating accessories suck as much as cheaters. Facilitating one's moral wrongdoing is immoral too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:55 PM
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Being misogynistic doesn't mean you'll lose your job really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:55 PM
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So basically you like more masculine/androgynous features on women. I dig them too, but I also like androgynous features on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:54 PM
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- Fucks a married woman, doesn't use protection and finds her idea to screw her husband hot. - "Women do NOT have the same sense of integrity and honor a man has". Nah, unfortunately, there are women like you who will fuck a married man, so at least some do have the same sense of integrity as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:52 PM
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It's still an article and not the study itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:50 PM
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Have you ever tried therapy? It seems you generally feel alienated from people and have hard time understanding them, I wonder whether you might have a spectrum or something in these lines. From what I've read even ADHD can make you feel surrounded by aliens and not your humanfolk. People react negatively to your questions because these posts usually are loaded with negative assumptions about the topic. I remember your previous posts - they do show a total lack of understanding the topic and a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:54 PM
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You need to get out of echo chambers. Stop consuming content around dating, sex and genders for some time. Take a break. You need a new social circle and most likely you need therapy. Obsession isn't okay and it seems you struggle with intrusive thoughts. Is therapy available to you? What do you do for a living now? People generally don't care about others and PPD isn't the right place to get sympathy. There's a user telling others that he hoped their pets were suffering before they died. Nobody…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:50 PM
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He views women's sexuality and libido through a lens of "men's libido is the norm". So if women have lower libido - women don't desire sex hence all sex is transactional according to his posts. If women get uneasy when strange men approach them - women probably think men are morally wrong to try to date them, he doesn't understand why women date men at all etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:47 PM
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Some women don't give a fuck, some delude themselves to think these guys are "joking". Some of them were baits themselves. There's also the question of just how many women stopped replying - but people pay attention only to the ones who didn't. There's also a large subset of women who just don't use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:37 PM
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Thank you. Although I can be mean and rude at times as well, but I think adding unnecessarily hostility doesn't really help anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:35 PM
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Size difference sucks lol Now I just order most things online, fuck it. Uniqlo doesn't have xxs in store and it's discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:21 PM
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How are you doing these days? Generally. Have you got new friends, new social circle? Re-intergrating into society is hard and it seems you need help doing it. Are there any communities or help you could reach for? If we go with batshit crazy people online, everyone should hate everyone. You have no idea what kind of messages women get on reddit and we just do our best trying to remember that no, not everyone is like that and there are sane and pleasant men out there. Anonymity just brings the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:59 PM
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People usually tell on themselves and the more you get to know a person, the higher are the chances that they'll let it slip sooner or later. We can also get clues from the way you behave, what kind of humor you prefer etc. People with low social skills and poor masking can be very obvious in their emotions as well. I don't really believe the argument "you struggle at dating because you hate women" though. Yeah, there are enough men who have very low opinion about women but who still can get dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:57 PM
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Just throw away whole boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:57 PM
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Stafford's findings are based on 2005 time-diary data from a study on income dynamics that has been conducted since 1968 at ISR. That doesn't seem to be a recent information at all. Can you find the study itself? I've read the second study, yeah. Married women do more chores compared to single mothers. I'd guess it's at least partially compensated by men bringing in more money (on average).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:52 PM
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Women generally don't want commitment from men they've rejected...also some of us had all the wild stuff with our committed partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:10 PM
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*Some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:06 PM
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Great, so now I can see what you're talking about! Yes, it sucks. It doesn't mean that men on average bring nothing to the table - even if they do less, they still do something. Plus, couples with women being primary/sole breadwinners are still a minority. In most marriages men are primary/sole breadwinners and the rest is egalitarian couples with 2 working partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:05 PM
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Toxic mascilinity is about men hurting themselves and others, including their fellow men.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 08:01 PM
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You seem to be consistently missing my points, but it's not like you're interested in discussion anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:58 PM
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Look at the text below the diagram and read carefully. It is stats for egalitarian marriages, not marriages where one partner is a sole breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:45 PM
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Creating a test that checks uniformly different type of intelligence makes sense - if you put more tasks for spatial intelligence, men will score higher, but if you put more tasks for verbal intelligence, women will score higher. Neither test would be objective and claiming that one gender is more intelligent than the other would be wrong. It is a meta-analysis which is more objective than an individual study. I'm not sure whether there's an analysis for studies including only adults.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 05:14 PM
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Here's meta-analysis Forty-eight studies, encompassing 78 samples, included data for the FSIQ. The estimated mean effect size was significant but practically negligible, with slightly higher scores in males than in females, d = 0.09, 95%CI [0.04, 0.14], p < 0.001. ... Concerning the first aim, we investigated the effect on the FSIQ. We found that there is a male advantage which, albeit statistically significant, is negligible in terms of magnitude (equivalent to a difference of 1.395 IQ points) …
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 04:36 PM
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The last time I've checked there were different results, so no.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 04:23 PM
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I replied to her post and she stopped replying to me when I brought stats. There's another user who called me full of shit and who can't read. It's the first time I meet female users on a level of some men here after gimpgirl was blocked lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:17 PM
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Almost half of marriages don't have a male breadwinner. I wonder what the hell keeps them (and us) together by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:16 PM
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We can't really know it. I think a lot of people who feel the need to "get it out" or that they've missed out just aren't cut out for exclusive LTRs. A lot of them will keep feeling this desire for novelty and whatnot. What do you mean by "seduced her"? I have no idea why she sticks to you, this marriage sounds miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:54 PM
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Once, with my husband. I had a few other crushes, but I think infatuation is different to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:59 PM
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If you think this part supports your claim: Exactly. Even when the wife is the only one working, ie the SOLE breadwinner, her husband still only does an equal amount of housework and child care. You're wrong, as egalitarian marriages include two working spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:58 PM
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To be fair she doesn't claim that ALL men say this one weird thing. She does the same thing some guys here do with "women say" and pick some stuff from twoX like "condom sex isn't cheating" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:57 PM
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Nah, ppd will always remind you about the time you cheated on your wife with her friend. She really should divorce you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:50 PM
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Cite the part, because it seems you're confusing something from the article and ignoring huge chunks of info from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:48 PM
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Nah, thanks, I'm good.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 02:02 PM
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I'm not sure what your comment has to do with mine. We're talking about "goods" people bring to relationships, attraction is a given in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:56 PM
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I think it's mostly the poverty issue and in some cases the cultural problem. No one wants to live in a poor neighborhood with all issues linked to it. On another note, I also wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood where all women were covering their hair due to religious reasons because I'd stand out as a beacon.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:55 PM
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I'm asking to cite because I'm not sure where you found it, the links don't support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:49 PM
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This statement pops here pretty regularly and it's a common topic in allpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:49 PM
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The stats say that a group of people commit more crimes, people see it in real life, people are going to act accordingly. I think it becomes racist/sexist if you mistreat these people out of your convictions. But taking precautions for your own safety != mistreatment.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:46 PM
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It's still gonna be about men. It's not that one race is more violent than the other, men are more violent than women.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:44 PM
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Exactly. It's important to find a compatible partner and if one keeps dating shitty men/women, they should take a long look at their vetting process or who they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:43 PM
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I think it greatly depends on one's culture and social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:41 PM
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Yes, the intensity can also vary greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:40 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:31 PM
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We expect more consciousness from other people and the ability to follow rules as well as simple instructions. If they fail to do so, it's okay to blame them. Sometimes it is productive as well - if it's their responsibility and they failed at it, they should carry the blame and the consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:31 AM
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Please, cite the part you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:28 AM
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Even when you take race into play it's still mostly about gender. Men commit more crimes (the minority of them, sure), men have higher rates for violent crimes (again, the minority of them commits these crimes) and men are largely the group who attacks and assaults women (yeah, the minority of men). Women have to take precautions, because, yes, you can't know whether this random man or man you don't know well is a part of this minority or not. Most men understand it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:25 AM
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On average most couples have 2 working partners and on average men work longer hours while women spend more hours on chores and childcare. You might want to check the links before your reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:21 AM
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I want my partner to have a white collar job, so he'd have less risks to get injured or develop job-related health issues in the future. Realistically I have more chances to find someone who is compatible with me and who shares my interests if I concentrate on people with a degree. Of course, it's a rude stereotype and I'm sure there are enough blue-collar workers who are egalitarian, liberal, environmentally conscious and like art and literature, but I haven't met any of them. It's a question o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:19 AM
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I am a woman and the stats for the US are here: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/atus.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:13 AM
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Where are you from if you're comfortable sharing? Statistically in the US (and stats from some European countries are pretty similar) men work longer hours while women do more around the house. I haven't checked this source, but pew research did show that even accounting for work, chores and childcare men spend slightly less time on their responsibilities compared to women. It doesn't mean men don't bring anything to the table though. The link also shows that slightly more than half marriages st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:13 AM
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Tbh I've never seen behavior like this. I have seen some points in my high school couple, but the guy wasn't "Chad" by any means and he was just purely abusive. She was tolerating it because a) she was young and b) she was from a rather unfortunate family.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 12:40 AM
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Just no. Men do bring things to the table, just as women do. Men work longer hours, while women spend more hours on childcare and chores, there are men capable of performing emotional labor and be equal spouses and parents. There are also more traditionally-minded men who can perform their traditional gender role and women interested in it. Claiming that either gender doesn't provide anything to the table is delusional and shows the quality of people you're around or the quality of partners you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:22 AM
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Well, I think traditional ordeal with women being submissive is miserable. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:20 AM
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We don't overuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:18 AM
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People don't read their own sources, nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:18 PM
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Wouldn't it be better to...move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:10 PM
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I have anxiety issues. I'm trying to meditate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:09 PM
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Sometimes abortion is a necessity, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 11:09 PM
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If we really stretch the term, I think we could include this case into "don't wanna". You don't want to keep this pregnancy due to poverty. And it's valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:53 PM
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You don't want this pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:48 PM
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Yeah, honey, that's the reality for most couples. Because we have the same responsibilities in relationship and it's not that one parents the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:45 PM
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Healthy relationships should be able to navigate a situation like that. Husband and I have the rule that we both can ask each other to reduce the communication with a certain person/cut contact for a good reason. Partner comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:54 PM
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Open hatred is better than unrequested love. Hidden hatred under the mask of friendship can be much worse imv.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:52 PM
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I wonder whether it's the result of their job or that the job attracts people with higher psychopathy rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:51 PM
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It can happen, but I think it's easier to notice a man with ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:50 PM
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We're spouses with equal power, so yeah we both can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:50 PM
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Better a man in love because there are less chances he will fuck you up when you the least expect it. Taking aside stalkers, psychos etc. If he's really in love with me and just wants me to be happy, it's better to deal with than a woman who pretends to be my friend but hates my guts for some reason. The typical fall out here would be him confessing, getting rejected and cutting the ties. Unfortunate, but manageable. Getting into a fight with my supposed close female friends is worse experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:59 PM
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I hope she does do better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:51 PM
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Well, and vice versa. If he's going out with friends, he'll tell me because I might want to spend time together or I might need to buy something after work to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:50 PM
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Again, it isn't a fact unless you can provide a reliable source to this claim besides your experience or perspective. Otherwise it's your opinion. If you believe that something is true, it doesn't mean it's really true. People were very sure and secure in their knowledge that the Earth is the center of the universe and we still have people believing that the Earth is flat. Both groups are wrong. Read carefully: My perspective is that there enough content couples and enough miserable couples and …
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 08:00 PM
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Self-reported studies are more objective than one's personal experience. There's a margin for lying, just as there's a possibility that you or I are lying and 100% certainty that we're both affected by our personal bias. When there are multiple stats showing similar rates (and you can check the stats for different years), it is more reliable than one's personal experience. On a side note, you don't seem to question than around 60% of young men are single as them lying about it because it does fi…
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 07:08 PM
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There are venues to meet people. People fail because forming relationships and bonds takes time and effort and it's harder to do when you're adults. Creating more venues can help to a degree, but it's still on people to go through trial and error phase and put time, effort and dedication into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:04 PM
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Most men over 30 "partnered up" - fact and accepting what little table scraps and leftovers they can get - opinion based on personal experience and your perspective My perspective is that there enough content couples and enough miserable couples and lots of people in-between. Men generally don't give more than they get with some exceptions and considering that men tend to remarry more than women (which is a fact) I'd guess they're more interested in LTRs and marriage (which is my opinion). Can w…
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:59 PM
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We rarely go to somewhere pricey, it's usually a cheap Asian café and then something sweet for desert in a café or bakery. If we go to a fancier place, we tend to share, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:56 PM
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So the stats: most men over 30 are partnered up. Your perspective on it: most men in relationships take what little table scraps and leftover they can get. Do you see the difference between a fact and opinion?
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:51 PM
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Better share the meal and get desserts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:50 PM
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There are lots of things even if you don't drink, don't like concerts or sports. There is volunteering, language courses, drawing/boarding games/just eating in an interesting place/hiking/photography and whatnot meet-ups. If you want to find a venue, there are multiple options in a city. It can be harder in suburbs or a small town.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:49 PM
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Going on dates with different people doesn't mean you're partnered up, sure. These people also are counted as single looking for relationship, not as someone in relationships. So people who are not single do get something out of their relationships, otherwise they wouldn't keep them.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:47 PM
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We can argue that they get something valuable enough to date - otherwise they'd stay single.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:43 PM
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It does show that the majority of them dates.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:41 PM
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Generally it's a red flag for a lot of people. Just like visiting sex workers. Are you against sex work yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:39 PM
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Both interpretations are subjective, sure. Discussing each other's experience and interpretation can help to get a more objective picture. We also can look at stats as a more objective resource. From the recent stats we can see that young men are predominantly single, but it changes above 30.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 06:33 PM
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No, it doesn't work in general. Some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:32 PM
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There are downsides and benefits of relationships. You don't notify or ask your partner about each and every thing, but you do have to think about both of you and vice versa. If I decide to go out and husband is expecting a hot dinner in the evening, he'd really like to know that I'm not going to be at home at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:32 PM
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Cheating does make you worse than non-cheating people in this one regard. There are other crimes and worse actions, it doesn't excuse cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:36 PM
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I don't think it's fair to keep people in ignorance. It's absolutely shitty to learn you were cheated on and you were the last one to learn that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:16 PM
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a) I know she wouldn't cheat, b) if she did, I'd talk to her and tell her she has to come clean. If she didn't, yeah, I think I'd have to let her partner know about it. But I don't keep cheating people close to myself, it's not the company I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:15 PM
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Cheating is one of the major divorce reasons and, well, for a good reason. No person should tolerate cheating and if I know someone is cheating on their partner, I will notify them about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:06 PM
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You see a glimpse of a whole picture and the way you interpret it heavily relies on your worldview. Personal bias is very strong. Of course, you also can have a rather shitty social circle with zero positive examples, but it is rather unrealistic.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:52 PM
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You think you know. There are a lot of couples who don't fit your notion, but you write them off as "BB" although you don't know their situation. Basically your theories are unfalsifiable because lots of it is based on the idea that "you know better".
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:47 PM
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Lots of men don't stick to "bro code" and it's hilarious and disheartening to see tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:42 PM
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Well, you guys aren't women and haven't lived life as a woman, but you're very secure in your idea that you know how women live.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:40 PM
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Not that often, but I randomly can get a message from my old acquaintances. Very old acquaintances as well, like my old classmates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:40 PM
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I think we have a bit different definition for "competitors". Negotiation is different to competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:38 PM
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Therapy works. Louder for people in the back please. I'm glad you're in this space and I'm pissed with your biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:37 PM
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Men proposing to have open relationships and getting butthurt later will never stop to amuse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:36 PM
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Lol. It kind of explains some men reaching out to complain about their gf/ex, but they get advice and "oh, I have to go do this and that thing with my husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:35 PM
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I think it's okay to feel confused. From what I read having your abusers being dead...is an interesting experience. It can be freeing, it can reopen old traumas. Having your old abuser getting severely ill is also confusing and there's a mix of what you're supposed to feel under normal circumstance (if they weren't abusive) and what you do feel. Even a lack of any feelings can be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:30 PM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:20 PM
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a) I always wanted to see how the logic behind some unhinged claims works. It's fascinating to see someone delusional to this level and it makes you want to figure out how they make it work in their brain. b) If everyone who disagrees leaves this subdreddit, it will become just another echo chamber. It is an echo chamber already, but I think it's good to bring not black-pilled points. c) I see some young boys posting here and I try to warn them against the black-pill community. They're getting i…
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:18 PM
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*Some women will Also not that women who were parts of harem back then had much choice. Or that people outside of elites had much choice. The emperor wants your daughter to be his 300th mistress - the emperor gets his 300th mistress and maybe he'll kill her in 3 month, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:16 PM
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Stay safe and try to do something to reduce your stress. This piece of shit isn't worth the stress he's putting your through.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:13 PM
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That's kind of how couples operate, no? If the decision affects both of you, you both should have the voice in the making of it. It's also a common excuse to get out of whatever you don't really want to do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:11 PM
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What? The style itself is tacky. I'll try to find something appealing - maybe this or that one. Haven't read the books, just talking about the covers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:51 PM
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Tbh I don't think you would call my school crush or my husband Chads, you have standards higher than most women do.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 03:48 PM
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Eh, it depends. I did and do some things from the list just as many women I know. I don't see anything wrong with "double texting" or paying for dates or being consistent with gifts etc. I wouldn't be enthusiastic about a man who didn't reciprocate then and people who do fall for it are responsible for their own actions. You have to keep your boundaries and self-respect.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 02:01 PM
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Tbh most romance novels covers are pure trash lol. They are fucking tacky. I have no idea why they do it, these covers bring zero allure or enticement, they're honestly unpleasant to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:50 PM
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I wonder why you get ghosted after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:44 PM
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"High standards" - standards that leave you with a smaller/narrower dating pool that is usual for your social subgroup. What these standards are greatly depends on a person. Someone doesn't want to date anyone looking less stunning that ig models or Hollywood actors, some put more emphasizes on financial aspect, some don't settle on communication skills etc. Personally I know my standards leave me with basically 2-3 options spread in 10 years, because a) it's hard for me to feel sexual attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:38 PM
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Men really don't want to acknowledge than female AI robots would mean having some male AI robots as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:45 PM
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Competitors in a working environment - sure. But not competitors in dating unless we're talking about bi/lesbian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:44 PM
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I think some people are better cut out for LTRs than others. Feeling the need to try out different relationships even if your first one is very good probably is an indicator of it. Some grow out of it, some don't. Although I tend to believe that people who need to "get it out of their system" just aren't created for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:43 PM
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Both male and female. Look at Japanese/Korean band fans, some of them are just over the board. Or look at men buying bath water lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:39 PM
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They'll steal your credit card info!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:38 PM
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How many of the found people were found dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:21 AM
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There has been a sotry about a mother seeing her kidnapped teenager daughter in porn. It does happen, but thankfully not as often as it happens in porn. Also I'd guess that some percent of missing people could be found in oorn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:20 AM
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Sex AI robots have been poisoning civilians
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:19 AM
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Tbh I think it doesn't happen that often. For a man to lose all attraction to his partner she has to put on A LOT OF weight and when it does happen, there are usually besides her weight alone. But I think I've read a few success stories about losing weight and hitting gym together on deadbedroom subreddit when I scorelled it. It's just less common than divorce/health issues/communication issues
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:18 AM
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It will affect both men and women.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 05:13 AM
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There have been multiple cases of injuries and malfunction due to improper use, the authorities and manufacturers ask users not to install unofficial shells on their devices
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:51 AM
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Imagine AI robots working on a subscription basis. Upgrade your subscription level to access anal sex! Payment was denied in the middle of sex and you're blue-balled. Maintence update, please, don't turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:39 AM
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There probably would be different models and lines, doesn't mean women would go for the most expensive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:33 AM
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Quite long enough, but they're closer than before. Much closer than AI robot girlfriends and stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 04:31 AM
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Looking at top comments: the first and second comment is about a man doing more to put away stress from her, the third is about ending relationship, the forth is about weed, the fifth "he stopped using porn", the sixth about communication (on both parts), the seventh is trp lol, the eighth was about medical problem, the ninth was about smut and figuring out what they like (smut is most likely for a woman), the tenth is about a woman upping her appearance to make her feel sexy again, the eleventh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:47 AM
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What does "truly love" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:38 AM
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Side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:37 AM
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Okay, *4th group - single and unhappy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:37 AM
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I've excluded the category that is constantly complaining about the other gender. This category can include both people in relationship and single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:03 AM
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It tells me that she's not over her ex. You shouldn't include your exes into your dating profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:00 PM
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Not sure about it. A person who is isolated, lonely and dependent on you is easier to manipulate than someone without these qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:59 PM
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Wouldn't it make her a pedophile? A good share of this 4 billion men are underage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:58 PM
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Are 97% of zoomers depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:57 PM
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u/Gold_Supermarket1956 *Some women do. Just as some men constantly complain about women and say there are no "marriage material" women in the West. The rest of us either do date and generally enjoy the experience (with still some troubles and issues here and there but it's expected), happily married or are content being single. I know enough men and women from all 3 categories, there are enough good family-oriented men and women and they tend to stick to each other. It can be hard to find someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:57 PM
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Depression doesn't have an articulated reason to manifest itself, sometimes people's biochemistry just fucks them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:58 PM
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Realistically everyone will get fucked up. Our economy will have to adjust and change in order to accommodate a sudden surplus of unemployed people.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:56 PM
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It's the question of money for companies and when it's about income, they move pretty fast. But it's better for people if automation takes a long time.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:55 PM
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A lot of women would forgo both things for an understanding, caring and supportive partner...who also could look like any actor or book/movie character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:54 PM
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For now it's mostly sci-fi scenario, not something I'd bet my money on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:30 PM
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If we take the premise seriously, there would be AI male robots as well, so it's not that women wouldn't have a choice. They'd go for ideal and perfect robots too, with a subset of both men and women opting out for something more real. The question is whether this subset will be the majority or minority. If women's standards are as unrealistic as guys here claim them to be, why wouldn't women jump on opportunity to have an ideal boyfriend? With an advanced enough AI a robot bf could tick all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:28 PM
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No, your choice is not to seek help.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:26 PM
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Under the premise that AI and robots are that advanced, I think economy would work differently. Lots of jobs would get automated anyway. UBI might be a possible solution to the crises.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:26 PM
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If we take the idea that this AI can imitate a person but be perfect, yeah, both genders would use a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:24 PM
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Well, that's your choice.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:23 PM
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Why? If women's standards are as unrealistic as guys here claim them to be, why wouldn't women jump on opportunity to have an ideal boyfriend? With an advanced enough AI a robot bf could tick all the ticks, your know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:22 PM
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If we take the premise seriously, there would be AI male robots as well, so it's not that women wouldn't have a choice. They'd go for ideal and perfect robots too, with a subset of both men and women opting out for something more real. The question is whether this subset will be the majority or minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:17 PM
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So...you haven't really tried it, have you? Considering that you think that therapy is just talking.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:15 PM
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There'll be a transitioning phase with laws being changed to accommodate the automation.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:14 PM
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Therapy for people on the spectrum isn't really about talking. It's a bunch of exercises and practices you can do to improve your social skills. Look up CBT for example, but you do need a professional working specifically with autism.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:58 PM
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Tbh I don't think I've ever met a man or a woman with all of these qualities. It's quite a combo and it isn't that statistically likely. There are enough average men and women who do date though. Like people who you wouldn't take a second look of. I know a guy who is very...quiet, on a shorter side and below average looking. He also earns significantly less than his wife does and he's less educated. They've been married for some time and have a kid. She's overweight, but I'd say she's more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:52 PM
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Have you tried therapy with a professional working specifically with this issue? As I've said it depends on one's severity, but some people do manage to get better at social skills.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:51 PM
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All my male friends are somewhat older and have been married for ages. They've known me since I was a teenagers, so it's more "older brother - younger sister" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:00 PM
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Not out fault men are thirsty. But also there are far less women who have the same level of social issues lots of guys struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:47 PM
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Imagine being asked the same question again and again. When you posted the answer everywhere already. You gonna lose it sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:46 PM
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Lots of jobs will be automated in the future. Truck drivers are mostly men and they most likely are on the list to be automated. The same goes to taxi drivers, train drivers, farmers to a degree etc. It's gonna be hell of a time to live in and I'm curious how we gonna work around it. UBI might be the solution to the millions of people getting unemployed.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:41 PM
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I'm curious whether the boys will face any legal repercussion for it. They and their parent should really.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:35 PM
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Most people can improve to a certain degree. The issue is that I don't know your personally nor I someone who works with this condition. My advice is destined to be shallow, you could get better help from people who either know your closely or who work with autism.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:31 PM
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It isn't just world - depending on your issues, you can improve them. Appearance-wise you can improve your physique, state of your skin, hairstyle etc. Autism is harder to deal with and as I've said it depends on the severity of your condition. Generally there's therapy for people on the spectrum that helps them to learn to cope and socialize more effectively. It isn't 100% solution, but it can help improve your situation.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:03 PM
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Could you improve your appearance? You also probably could learn to navigate your condition in a way that would allow you to form bonds with other people, but of course it depends on the severity of it.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:51 PM
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They have to go and socialize in different ways trying to find the one that works best for them. There's no really another way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:50 PM
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Both things matter. Being short or having unfortunate facial features does make one's dating life harder and in some cases just stops them from getting any action whatsoever. We just tend to disagree where the bar is and how many people are stopped purely due to their looks. Most people are average and close to average - we can go outside and see enough of them dating and forming families. So basically if one average-looking man can date and the other can't, they must have some difference beyond…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:22 PM
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As I've said - I see lots of teens below 6' who are dating. It isn't that rare really.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:20 PM
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People are not black slates, but people also are not concrete blocks unable to change. If you don't want to figure out your issues and try to improve them, that's your choice.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:20 PM
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I don't think it's that common really, deadbedroom happens in a minority of marriages and most people do not want or plan to settle for someone they feel zero attraction to.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:19 PM
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It's a pretty random number - I suppose if we made this much, we could not only live comfortably themselves, but also have kids and provide for both of our families.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:17 PM
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Why would you discredit it? Stats are stats. There's always some dummy, sure, it doesn't mean women want to deal with a dummy.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 01:36 AM
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I think a man will be less likely offended about it, but if you fuck on a regular basis, chances are high he will develop feelings and will want something more. As long as you don't lol. At least that's what I've read online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:34 AM
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It depends on one's social circle and age group. The older you get, the more options check one or several categories listed. I don't think these standards are high btw. Just as wanting a man who's not overweight, isn't a baby daddy or high body-count/virgin (depending on one's preferences) aren't high standards either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:33 AM
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As long as she can make it clear to him that she doesn't feel any romantic or sexual attraction to him and they're both fine with it...It's a shitty situation, but if they're both willing to make it work, they both could benefit from it. Although I'm not sure they can realistically cope with having sex with no attraction on her part. On a side note, I'd be worried about cohabitating with a man while having small children in the household.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 01:18 AM
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I don't. I make more money doing what I do than I'd do as a cleaner or nanny (most common jobs for women in our position), but I don't work full-time because I also study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:08 AM
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As I've said - ideal doesn't exist. I don't think there's either man or woman who would check all the things I've listed and it would be foolish to expect to date someone like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:39 AM
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As I've said ideal isn't realistic. Where in my original comment did you find anything it being realistic? Realistically I want my husband and I to get to the point where we together make around 100k. It would provide a comfortable lifestyle and we could have a baby. So far we live below poverty line due to reasons outside of our control and I'm fine with it. I know it's temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:38 AM
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Well, there was miscommunication - I thought you were talking about some mythical path where men used to kill each other for sex. I also think there's another miscommunication as well. Women earn degrees and make money not because they think it makes them more attractive for men, most of us do it because we want to have a good quality of life and be able to provide for themselves, take care of our parents and spouses and kids in the future. We do it because we have to. A good share also does it …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:37 AM
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I live in a multinational city now, so it's a mix of nationalities. There are a lot of Asians, so I see men who are not 6' dating pretty often.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 12:07 AM
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I'd date a woman without any issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:07 AM
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We're talking about ideal, aren't we? I'd prefer to make 170k myself as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:06 AM
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Chats are even more glitchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:11 PM
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Where do you live? It might be a cultural difference, but I see lots of teens dating and no, lots of them are not >6 feet.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:11 PM
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Well, he did find his audience. He also might have rigged the algorithm and he was fucking everywhere. I was getting his videos and I'm a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:10 PM
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We do put more effort, just not in initiating romantic relationships. Women generally have more friends and deeper bonds, which makes sense considering we spend more time and effort on keeping them. You need new social events then. Look up volunteering, meetup groups etc.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 08:08 PM
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Trying to stop people from catching herpes when most of them already have it is pointless imv. Have you seen how "successful" we tried to stop covid? We have to concentrate efforts on creating cure or vaccine for the next generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:07 PM
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"Ideal" doesn't really exist, does it? I'm not sure how many people pounder over this idea either as it isn't exactly healthy. I'm gonna write a little fantasy just because you've asked about it, but I'm not sure what the point is here. An ideal man is a man who is 100% compatible with me and who ticks all the preferences and kinks I have. So he's egalitarian, liberal, pro-LGBTQ+ (a part of it really, he's bi and demi), pro-choice, very environmentally conscious, likes cooking and baking, has id…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:05 PM
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Sorry, that part should have been *it doesn't contradict the idea that These days women are catching up. Among young generations women outearn their counterparts if I remember correctly and there are more women getting higher education. Also you've started talking about men killing each other for sex which isn't really 2023 thing. No. Men outperform women due to a bunch of reasons, you can't tie everything to pursuit of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:55 PM
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...At what point did men kill each other for sexual access and not because they were protecting resources or there were religious disagreements or something else? There's a difference in behavior linked to biological reasons, sure. It doesn't mean that men outperformed women greatly due to the social structure that was built in a certain way. Edit: *it doesn't contradict the idea that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:03 PM
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Dating isn't a contest where "you get what you deserve" and people generally don't "deserve" other people in romantic context. You don't "deserve" a girl because you're a good boy and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:02 PM
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There's no "deserve" in dating besides "people deserve not to be abused/cheated on".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:47 PM
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People don't "deserve equal" in the context of dating. People date whoever they can date and that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:42 PM
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I'm not sure whether it really maters. Most people share their drinks with their friends, especially kids. Herpes isn't curable and once your caught it you have it, it would be really cool if we had a vaccine against it so kids just wouldn't catch it altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:39 PM
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You probably can learn these things or at least learn to imitate them if you put enough effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:35 PM
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There are male escorts, but I think they're mostly used by other men. I know there are some male hosts in Japan and men imitating dates for payment, but I assume they have to be very pretty and, well, Japan has a bit different outlook on dating and stuff, I'm not sure these services would be popular in the US or Europe. Having said that I'm not sure how many men are "gentlemen" to random women really. My husband caters to me, just as I cater to him, but we do it because we love each other. Neith…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:32 PM
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I want my husband to take a parental leave to stay home with our future kid(s) for some time, but not forever. Realistically it would be a heavy task to provide for a whole family on my own and we both want a good lifestyle and we both will need to help our parents, so we both have to work. I don't want to be a housewife and I don't see much allure in having a househusband either, although I wouldn't mind my partner having a less paying job with less hour so he could spend more time with kids an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:28 PM
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Men outperform women in certain areas due to a mix of biological and social reasons and both gender roles affect each other. Women are expected to do more childcare and chores because men work longer hours. Men are expected to work longer hours, because women shoulder more childcare and chores. But it seems neither gender is okay with the status quo and we need to be explicit with our expectations in order to find a partner compatible to us. Gender roles and gender stereotypes are still strong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 06:22 PM
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That's...not really what's happening. Go outside, looks at the couples - there are lots of average men dating.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:56 PM
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I have to put efforts into forming a new social circle due to relocation. Women generally put more efforts into their social bonds. Whatever can work for you. A general advice here is volunteering, joining communities you're interested it (starting with language courses and ending with churches) and generally being more sociable and attending more social events trying to meet more people.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:56 PM
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Ughh...I wouldn't date a man who was talking about other women as "ran through" anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:53 PM
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Guys we're talking about have deep mental health issues. Providing them with surgeries would just lead to more victims of multiple surgeries who want more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:52 PM
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I am not excusing racism, racism is a well-known issue outside of blackpill community.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:51 PM
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Each day the delusions here get wilder and wilder. Go outside, there are lots of men around 5'10 (and somewhat shorter too) in relationships.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:00 PM
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Most people date and marry partners with similar level of experience. Couples with mismatched experience are rarer than you think.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 05:12 AM
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As I've said I don't agree with your perception here.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:54 AM
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Hoodwinked? I don't share your perception here. Most couples do fall in love at least in the beginning of their relationships and few are formed purely for practical reasons.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:35 AM
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*Some women. Hateful and inflammatory videos get the most engagement, Tate was popular at some point, it doesn't mean most men are misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:18 AM
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Of course, but it doesn't seem they're content with the outcome of their choices.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 04:17 AM
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Yeah, too many teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:30 AM
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I'm sorry, but I'm going to take it with a bit grain of salt. A lot of men here seem not to only have no social circle, but also have a rather shitty lifestyle overall. There's also learned helplessness which makes you give half-assed attempts to improve your situation only for you to fail (because no real effort was put) anddrown your further. It's hard to deal with it on its own.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 03:29 AM
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He should live in a cave and cease his attempts at pretending to be a civilized person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:28 AM
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Quite a lot. An attractive man can lose all his points if he's dirty and sloppy. An average/somewhat below average can improve greatly with time and effort put into his appearance. There are also people who aren't pretty visually but they have a style and confidence in them that attracts people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:27 AM
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I was mostly joking, considering I'm in my late 20s. I do use FB for the book club, it's mostly women in their 20s and 30s too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:22 AM
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a) 600k likes don't show that the majority of women agree with the point. b) Likes can be bought. c) If you keep using insults, I'm not going to engage any further.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:21 AM
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Both men and women are justified to be upset if/when they realise their partners have led them on or lied about their feelings and intentions. Is it really hard science? I don't think that the majority of LTRs form under the given premise though. People tend to date partners with similar experience.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 03:19 AM
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I think starting with universal health care, including mental health care, would be a more reasonable move.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:08 AM
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It doesn't mean they use it that often. As far as I remember men and women initiate breaking up at a similar rate prior marriage.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 03:07 AM
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I'm an old grandma and I follow FB reading club group. So when I'm bored, I scroll reels. I think they got divorced? Or in the process of it because I don't think there's coming back from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:06 AM
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That seems like a vetting issue really. Most couples are close in socioeconomic levels, the story of a Cinderella isn't that common.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:19 AM
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Why would you approach someone you aren't into in the first place?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:07 AM
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There are universally attractive traits, sure. It doesn't mean that if you don't possess all of them, you're doomed. Most people are average/close to average and most people still date. Women tend to have more dating options, but even then some of them struggle with dating and are chronically single when they do want to date.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:06 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:02 AM
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For starters, they need a long break from any kind of social medias and pill-related content. They should develop healthy lifestyle: yes, your sleep schedule, a lack of exercise and shitty diet can make you feel more depressed. They should get help for their mental health, whether it's therapy or at least some CBT exercises they can do themselves. They need offline friends. They also should figure out what their preferences really are and whether their fear and disgust towards women with experie…
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:02 AM
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Are you planning on ever moving out? Living in suburbs with very limited social opportunities doesn't seem the best environment.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 01:20 AM
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It seems we need some intervention program for struggling teens, but I'm not sure what the right approach would be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:19 AM
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I don't think it's genetic and I don't think that only a narrow group of men "succeeds". Most people date and young men seem to struggle largely because they rely too much on social media, apps and have a bunch of mental health issues. Both men and women tbh. Thank you for keeping this conversation civil as well, I've had my share of unpleasant experience here as well. But I think it's important not to let things get completely into circle jerk and bring another opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 01:15 AM
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I've seen a similar video with a woman cleaning up after a few weeks of her husband not doing anything around the house while she was working as a nurse + studying. An awful sight really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:11 AM
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Well, that's subjective.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:49 AM
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Do you think it can be part of the problem?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:48 AM
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Why is it so?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:38 AM
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So...as I've said - men don't want to put any extra effort and they're afraid of taking risks.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:31 AM
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Do you have friends?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:30 AM
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Good, so I hope your social circle is more mature than to what you've described.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:23 AM
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The woman in the post stopped cleaning the second floor at all and her husband has never cleaned it in 10 months. This is vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:15 AM
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If you don't develop social skills now and work on your mental health now, things won't magically get better when you get older.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:15 AM
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Taking regular breaks from social medias, especially if you have anxiety issues or any other mental health problems, is common sense. You don't have to be a shrink to see that. Yes, I am a woman. I also have male friends and relatives and I work with teens and young adults. People date, real life isn't as bad as certain online communities paint it. Youngsters rely on social medias way too much and it deteriorates their mental health.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:13 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:11 AM
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AP tends to attract vulnerable people - whether it's due to their age or due to their mental health. It's depressing to see teens getting suck into blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:10 AM
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How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:07 AM
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It's awkward for some time, but among adults it's also pretty common and people stop talking about it after some time.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:06 AM
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Because if you don't try, you'll never change your situation. Give up early and you'll regret the time wasted later on.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:06 AM
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I'm curious how the hell it happens. Have they not cohabitated prior marriage? I've read some stories about men suddenly/gradually stopping doing any chores after having kids and it looks like a fucking baby trap in reverse. I'm blessed with a man whose cleaning standards are higher than mine and who does chores on a regular basis without me reminding him at all. But I'd also say it's pretty common and among my cousins no one has married a man who's utterly messy/doesn't do his fair share.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:05 AM
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And spaces like this make these conditions worse. It isn't surprising that people with mental issues are drawn to them, it's similar to eating disorder sufferers creating forums encouraging each other to starve.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:02 AM
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Lots of people approach inside their social circles. Just as it's rare to meet a psychopathic man accusing you in vile shit for no reason, it's rare to meet a psychopathic woman doing the same. If you think it's very common, you need take a break from social medias.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:01 AM
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It seems you have issues beyond dating that you should concentrate on. Have you ever taken a break from social medias?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 12:00 AM
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Can you look for another job? Dating aside having no days-off is bad for your health.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:57 PM
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Has it ever happened to you? What have you done?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:57 PM
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If he's stopped putting any efforts into dating, yeah, he refuses to date.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:56 PM
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Intrusive thoughts/anxiety disorder.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:56 PM
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Isn't that...illegal?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:41 PM
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We can always compare ourselves with more fortunate people, whether they're prettier or wealthier than we are. But if these thoughts are stopping you from living your life and make you resign from whole parts of life, they're intrusive thoughts that you have to learn to control. It isn't the norm, it's a mental health issue. You won't get a better life by refusing to date because some people have a better dating experience. Just as a person won't become wealthier if they stop trying to get out o…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:40 PM
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Most people work 5 days. Working 7 days is a struggle though, why are you gonna work without any days-off?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:38 PM
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Wasn't the number around 40% last time? Apps don't work for you, why stick to them?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:38 PM
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The last time I checked the stats "online" was around 40%? And online includes more apps than just olds.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:37 PM
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Also this, yep.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:36 PM
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Period + cold with coughing and sneezing is a combo from hell. But husband brought me some pizza and cookies, so I'll live.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:31 PM
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It will get banned sooner or later. I do wonder how we could help men drawn to spaces like this, because it's a wild mix of body dismorphia, loneliness, learned helplessness and most likely a bunch of other mental health issues. Some seem to be purely psychopathic, but it might be just edgy teens trying to impress others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:26 PM
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Don't get me wrong, it's okay and human to be insecure. You can't let your insecurities stop you from living your life though. If you give up now, it will be only harder to pick up the slack later on the road.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:24 PM
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More than half couples meet offline. The number is probably lower after covid, but apps don't work for the vast majority of people, so I wouldn't use them as a bar of "not attractive enough". You have some deep-running insecurities which get worse due to the content you're consuming online. You're similar to a girl avoiding socialization because "she's fat" although she might be objectively in a healthy weight.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:22 PM
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Do you have any days-off? What do you do for a living? Apps don't work for most men. Men keep using them because they don't want to put extra effort and they don't want to/are afraid of working on their social circle.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:21 PM
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Some people are shitty and are waaay too tied to gender roles and their expectations of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:19 PM
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You're way to young to be giving up on dating really. As I've said, you should give up on pill communities. Delete all social medias, stop watching YouTube, go as offline as you can. Expand your social circle, go the gym, improve your health, join some hobby groups etc. You're young, you're supposed to live your life now, not rot online.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:18 PM
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It's bunch of mentally ill teenagers and adults trying to dump each other further into black pill and despair. A depressing sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:17 PM
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I'm sorry you're going through it and I'm glad you have the partner you can rely on. It makes life much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:14 PM
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How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:13 PM
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Why do you keep going on apps when they don't work for you? Filtering people for height is shallow, but apps are designed to make dating and vetting as shallow as possible. You should stop trying the method that clearly doesn't work for you and work on your social circle. Warm approaches are the best approaches. The median n-count for women is around 4-7, I don't remember for sure. Most women are not riding cock carousel, they have a few LTRs and maybe try casual once or twice.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 11:12 PM
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What you should give up is blackpill spaces and communities. It's a bucket of crabs, they want everyone to fee miserable. You feel they "get" you - they do get you in the same sense sect members "get" vulnerable people and make them feel understood and heard. 5'10 men date, it isn't over. It's over if you think so. My husband is between 5'10 and 5'11, he's the only person I've ever dated and I do see other women checking him out. Your height is average, it might make dating harder for you than i…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:11 PM
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Some of you do have cuck fetish, don't you? It doesn't seem that any mentally healthy person would dedicate this amount of their time to humiliating fantasies. Anyway, most dating people have some prior experience to dating their spouse, both men and women. There's also a subset of couples who met early and have zero/close to zero experience dating anyone else, it's not that common, but it does happen.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 10:04 PM
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Quite a lot of people here parrot that though.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 09:57 PM
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Everyone who doesn't fully agree with black or red pill is blue by definition, but lots of blue pullers do know about halo effect and admit that appearance matters. It's just not the only thing that does and I'm saying it as a person who wears zero makeup these days.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 08:56 PM
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*Some people Most men and women don't think this way, but some cheaters of both sexes try to make excuse like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:51 PM
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My friend got hit on by her ex-husband's friends. Not one, but multiple. She was disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:09 PM
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Driving. Not people who'd most likely notice or hear her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:02 PM
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I have not proposed to use studies here as they're rather old.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 06:01 PM
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Could you try writing a diary? Getting things out is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:05 AM
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I'd guess there's a stronger link between a man calling himself an incel and his attractiveness level, but even then it isn't universal. Lots of you have body dysmorphia.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 01:56 AM
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Studies on the topic seem to be a bit old, so I'm not sure there's an objective recent data. Personal experience can vary greatly as well as our perception.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 01:53 AM
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Diary + bullet journal + life map (inside the bullet journal).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:33 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:32 AM
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Most couples are looksmatched.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 01:32 AM
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It starts with popular and filters for things you engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:32 AM
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It depends on the context. The longer I know a guy, the more comfortable I feel around him. I don't view each and every interaction with a random man as flirting, that's my husband's attitude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:18 AM
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Depends on your social circle really.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 12:12 AM
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I think they could finally stop "the oldest profession" from existence which is great.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 12:11 AM
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