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SilentFroggy/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:52 PM
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These type of Asian women would choose a chopped average height white man over a tall chang. It’s more about status and how the women view themselves. Average looking Asian women want to be white so they choose any white man to make up for it.
/r/BlackPillScience25/07/25 10:05 AM
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Obviously if a woman is a slut, she wouldn’t care. The question could’ve been categorized to a woman with little to no sexual history and answers might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:46 AM
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Well if she doesn’t have a horrible past then that’s the best way to know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:53 AM
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Or you just don’t know what men want. Me personally, I’d fall in love with a girl next door type that isn’t a bimbo ig model that has thousands of followers getting endless attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:57 PM
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We’d take her and then cheat on her. She’s not that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:46 PM
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Still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:29 PM
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Crazy how there are women that believe their looks is enough to make any guy fall in love with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:30 PM
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My original reply above was wether those non attractive men were receiving the same attraction or not compared to attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:58 PM
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There is a correlation of attractive men having it easier than non attractive men. If there’s no difference in desirability, there shouldn’t be a difference in difficulty compared to the levels of physical attractiveness. Long term relationships doesn’t prove anything when many are settling and getting whatever they can get which a lot of men brings up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:41 PM
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Maybe what you see is a “solid” relationship but would be different in other mens view. I wouldn’t say non attractive men can’t get a decent relationship, but like I said above, they still have to work for it but the scenario of being desired is not comparable to attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:20 PM
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Difficult to perform a study where it isn’t guaranteed to get real honest answers. Just look at how attractive men aren’t struggling compared to non attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:14 PM
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To sum it up, no horrible past and is peaceful to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:04 PM
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If there’s no studies, the next thing I’d go for is anecdotes. I don’t believe it’s every relationship but haven’t seen one where the non attractive guy is desired by a good quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:48 PM
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I wouldn’t call it getting the same result either. You’d want her to be attracted to you, not settle for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:48 AM

If someone makes 100k a year, they can afford it. And not everyone lives an expensive lifestyle. There are smart ways to be financially comfortable while still having children. Obviously if it’s too much for them, they can just die alone while being wiped away from the gene pool. (Maybe a good thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:36 PM

Because the average man doesn’t work for it or acknowledge that this is an option. Some men don’t want kids either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:33 PM

Let me be more specific, the AVERAGE MAN GENETICALLY. Yes it’s expensive, that should’ve been acknowledged. That’s why I said he needs to work for it and it is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:08 PM

If he works for it then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:29 PM

Only the best genetics will be selected(assuming you do get selected do donate). And those guys don’t necessarily need to donate their sperm when women want to date and breed with them anyways. The best option for the average man is the surrogate route if he wants offsprings. Preferably using donor eggs with genes that will improve his bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:10 PM

No gym for bone structure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:19 AM
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My mistake. I was specifically looking at your comment. Yes practicing monogamy would allow most men to be happy. This would be the logical solution for humans in general to be satisfied(well at least for men). Polygamy on the other hand would suggest that the disposable men be wiped out of the gene pool and I do not believe many of those men would be pleased with that scenario. Your original comment says that there was a history of polygamy which mentions that most people were happy. I’m guessi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:02 AM
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Do you believe that biological perspective should be practiced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:34 PM
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The topic is polygamy, no polyandry. But if polyandry is practiced, how common is it for modern men to happily participate in those relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:34 PM
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I agree that op gave no argument. But I gave an argument on why monogamy is a better solution. However that depends if you want less suffering in this world or more suffering where it benefits only a certain group of people(specifically men in this scenario).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:57 PM
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So you believe that’s the solution for society to continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:39 PM
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Unless there’s more women than men, how does polygamy make everyone happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:33 PM
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Men wanting to be polygamous is a want. It’s not good for society in general since it leaves other men suffering and dying alone. Monogamous is still a better solution to ensure every man gets equal opportunity with finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:30 PM

Haven’t really given up, but it does feel like a high risk low reward situation when you’re trying. Especially as you get older and finding that decent woman quickly fades. I think some guys do whatever they can to get some kind of attention from any women they can land on, while some men give up because the women they do eventually land on is not the ones they truly desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:29 AM

I consider us worshiping ourself and pussy is the breeding tool
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:59 PM

If men aren't working what are their options? Like just be homeless? Move into the woods and live off the land? Be lucky enough to have parents or friends who will take you in and take care of you? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:57 PM
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I wish this was true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:58 PM
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18yos can be taken advantage by other 18yos too. Women who are traumatized from past relationships were not only from older men. I don’t know if there are any statistics to this but I do see more women having relationship trauma are from other teen boys their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:04 PM

I was just telling them what they wanted to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:35 PM

Well according to women here, men should still work and seek other meanings of life instead of our main biological purpose. Basically work and contribute to society while other men breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:13 AM
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I just stated the reasoning of it hurting mens dating pool and giving bad images to younger generations of women. They should be shamed wether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:06 PM
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If it’s about women expressing promiscuity and looking for hoe acceptance, then yes it would hurt men. This would lead to more women being unintentionally promiscuous and lowering the dating pool for men creating more scarce and competition. They are indeed hurting men(and women). Nothing is wrong with the posts shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 PM
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Yes it is. It’s creating more scarce for men to find a decent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:07 PM
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Younger inexperienced women could possibly follow those patterns without knowing the consequences and it increases the competition for men that wants a non promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:45 PM
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Not every man possess the personality or wants to develop the personality that attracts these certain women. A lot of guys just want to be themselves. And being yourself while being average looking will not get you far with any women, let alone a woman that meets your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:39 PM
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Women want a man that respects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:50 PM
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Ah yes, men are lazy pigs that want to come home to be taken care of. Keep on believing your bias ideals. You have no idea nor care what men really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:38 PM
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Yep, expected this kind of response
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:39 PM
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This. Men are the logical gender. No reward, no wife, no offsprings, what is there to work for?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:46 AM
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Sure buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:29 AM

Op post a scenario and ask for our opinions I give opinion You get triggered Don’t know what else to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:08 AM
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Honestly, we choose to be lonely ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:33 PM
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Those guys were attractive. But women want them for relationships not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:25 PM
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If you are truly a slut and wasn’t manipulated from the start, then no harm is done to you. That said, majority of “sluts” were put in that position by men. Like women who go on a hoe phase after being pumped and dumped. They need to ration their position to protect their egos because they don’t want to be “used/degraded”. I don’t believe sluts enjoy sleeping around, it’s more of coping mechanism. But if you were also like this from the start without someone manipulating/using you then I guess e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:00 PM
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Women don’t care. And it would make you a bigger loser contributing to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:38 PM
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Never said those women were sleeping around. They’re still scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:54 PM
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Only few women would agree to fwb. And often they are trying to convince the guy to commit or they’re c**ing with a hoe phase. Even chads have to lead women on, he can’t just ask the general women for sex that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:46 PM
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This is wrong. They are not going to accept him cheating. Either they will try to convince him to commit knowing he has a rotation or they have zero clue he’s seeing other women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:59 AM
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That’s what they end up with in the end. But at that point, men are dealing with scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:58 AM
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This whole post is asking the sub if this is okay. So I’m giving a general opinion. Obviously if the man wants to cuck himself, that’s his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:09 AM
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It does count. It’s not the man’s child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:22 PM
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What’s disgusting is the man raising another man’s offspring. Either make it equal for both sides or both parents should be biological to their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:10 AM
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Nothing wrong with it as long as she uses donor eggs as well. Most likely her genetics are bad as well if she’s worried about the outcome of her offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:28 PM
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Social skills apply to non attractive looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:35 AM
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Women do not want to hook up. They are lead on by men who just wants casual sex. And gen z are having less sex compared to previous generations. Seems like younger women have caught on and men aren’t putting any effort. You’re not as a special as you think if you’re not promiscuous. Women in general do not want to be, they were put in that position by top tier men and need to rationalize their current situation. The reality is men do care but men also want casual sex. That’s why you see many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:45 PM
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Promiscuity isn’t normalize. It’s only because top men have options and they can choose how the playing fields work for most women. Since women are Hypergamous and risk themselves hoping to lock down a high value man. Attractive women only seem to have higher body counts because they are being chased the most and given more opportunities from top men who wants to use their body. The opinions of promiscuous women doesn’t concern you yet you still had to mention exceptions to the rules of them bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:26 PM
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Did I say most 10/10 women have high bodycount? Did I also say ran through women will not get married? I didn’t but they will struggle to lock down a “high value” man that has options. Can’t bring exceptions to the rule to prove a point. You will still see attractive looking woman struggle with dating because the guys they chase only sees them as casual. High value men are more rare than 10/10 women. You can still cope while being married. The opinions of others can still hurt you if you don’t f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:50 PM
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Anyone can find long term partners. It will be harder if you’re chasing guys that have options. Being ran through for a woman, you’re most likely recreational use unless you lower your standards. This isn’t a revenge fantasy. It sounds like the cope is coming from you. Bodycount/purity doesn’t register for women’s desires so maybe that’s why you think that. However, it is important for men who wants a romantic partner that is seen more than a sex object. It’s the truth no matter how much you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:18 PM
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It’s not just about being pretty. A 10/10 woman that’s been ran through will only be recreational to these rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:16 PM

About what? What men find attractive? They would definitely be honest about that. But men do lie, and it’s not about women’s looks unless it’s incels who have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:52 PM

Well I don’t ask. I look at results/actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:50 PM

And there’s a scary amount of men that do put effort into their appearance. It’s scary because they’re still unattractive. They would need to undergo expensive surgery that could be life threatening. If hypothetically, the beauty standard was easy to reach for men, I’d guarantee most guys would be putting more effort than women. But that’s assuming if hypergamy doesn’t increase women’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:46 PM

Wrong, standards are not lower. It’s just harder for men to achieve those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:37 PM

Women have never been honest about what they find attractive. A thousand women on a twitter poll is not enough to convince me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:32 PM
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Yes women settle… And these relationships you see also have hidden contexts you ignore. I’ve never seen short fat guys with a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:12 PM
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They do have a choice. No one is forcing them to pay for hookers/content.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:45 PM
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I’m just saying I dislike men who pay for onlyfans and blame it on their mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:14 PM
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I dislike those “vulnerable men” more than OF women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:56 PM
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No one is trying to make chads look bad. Nor claiming they’re all bad men. We’re saying chads can be whoever they want and still get more success than the average men who puts effort. Attractive men also have options and he is more likely to use women for sex. So if tricking women into sex is misogyny or not is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:34 AM
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Chad uses women for sex. He doesn’t have to show that he’s misogynist or not. And it doesn’t matter if he is, he will still get guaranteed sex compared to the average men who puts in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:27 AM
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Younger guys see unattractive men with women all the time without thinking about the contexts. So it takes some a bit longer to catch on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:14 AM
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There are still bluepillers who haven’t learned their lessons yet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:48 AM
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Depends on why she is a slob. Could be depressed. So if she’s willing to change, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:56 PM
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You equated short men with obese women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:39 PM
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If you’re on this sub, you most likely do care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:04 PM
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Well it’s not just looks. It’s also purity and having little to no mileage that is attractive. Because there are women in their 30s that are good looking but her experiences can still be a turn off. I guess you can say some men will say younger women are physically attractive and hide the fact that it’s also because they’re young and inexperienced. So it’s somewhat another way of justifying it. I meant the coping was from women not men. Wanting to believe men who go for younger women because wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:18 PM
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I think some men say that because it makes them feel less guilty for objectifying women. Looks and purity does matter wether society think it’s creepy or not. Just like women, men can bs too and you can call it out(or look for gotchas) instead of choosing to believe what they say. Also, why do you believe men go for younger women? Because from what I’ve seen, women claim men go for younger women because “they were rejected from women their own age”. Seems like a coping mechanism to deny that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:44 PM
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Perhaps men use that to justify why they find young women attractive. When in reality it’s because she’s more attractive when she’s young with zero miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:40 PM
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But a whore is unattractive. Which means you’re implying that small dicks are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:02 PM
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Not true. Women,(unless she’s rebounding with a hoe phase) would not give sex to a man if she knows that’s all he wants from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:04 PM
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No one says non virgin women can’t get married. Because any women can get married if they lower their standards enough. Even an old grandma can find a man to marry. But your anecdotes and rationalization doesn’t mean men in general doesn’t care. 1/3 of young men are struggling to date and not putting any effort. The rest just wants hookups and no desire for LTR. Hence men keep saying “these women are recreational only”. Plenty of young women have been complaining about men only wanting them for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:51 AM
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Men aren’t going to ask you. And they’re not going to tell you they want a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:38 PM
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He probably chose you to be his long term partner because you were a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:19 PM
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You are not 8.5
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:42 AM

Men. Why would women give that advice? Edit: actually I’ve seen some women given that advice but other women label them as a “pick me”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:38 PM

Actually it’s common for guys advice to lie to women to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:30 PM

Men would definitely be obsessed with their looks if they have potential for it. e.g. attractive guys on looksmaxxing forums. But most guys don’t have that potential. And faking your personality for a woman doesn’t seem appealing. We want to be ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:44 PM

Being attractive looking is impossible for most men unless he gets expensive surgery. And some guys want to be themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:22 PM
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Tall ugly men using height as advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:31 PM
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I don’t think they believe it’s unattractive. It’s usually the non virgin women who don’t want virgin men because it makes them feel more degrading since bodycount lowers women’s value. Me personally, I don’t think bodycount matters on a man wether he is a virgin or have multiple bodies. Like a woman might say she wants a virgin man but would let it slide if he checked all the right boxes. Can’t say the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:45 PM
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It depends on your definition of what’s attractive. A lot of men don’t want to be used and actually want to be desirable to women just like how they desire beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:37 PM
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Men who take care of themselves look better in their 30s. But most men don’t so they age like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:33 PM
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Should’ve used maxxed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:31 PM

At this point, you guys use the word “insecurity” so much that I now see it as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:00 PM

Sounds like every guy here or redpillers in general are lying to us according to these “studies”. Didn’t read btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:58 PM

I agree with the first point. I was just going into further details as why it’s shamed. And I wasn’t necessarily talking about casual sex. Just bodycount in general. Multiple relationships in a woman can be a turn off to men. I don’t think it necessarily applies the other way around unless the guy was acting on promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:54 PM

Yeah but a guy isn’t going to feel confident if she slept with multiple men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:51 PM

I mean yeah, that’s why most women are shamed. I don’t see anything wrong with it. OP was implying that promiscuous women are shamed, and I don’t think that’s necessary true if she’s just promiscuous and not looking for relationship. Also I don’t think men and women see bodycount the same. I believe women do care about a man’s bodycount. But it doesn’t bother her if the guy checks all the right boxes. However a woman could be perfect for a man, but the bodycount will still turn him off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:46 PM

Heck, there was an upvoted comment I’ve seen in a feminist subreddit of all places that talked about how there was this one dude in college that many inexperienced women went to based on other women’s recommendation, because he was so famously good at bed while being totally respectful and caring Sounds made up. Or at least not telling the whole story. Not surprised if coming from a feminist sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:12 PM

It’s only shamed when a woman that has multiple sexual partners wants a relationship. Otherwise men probably don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:08 PM
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Saving her virginity and making men wait
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:09 PM
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Either got unlucky or you’re not telling the whole story
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:17 PM
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Most guys don’t have close female friends like that. Nor the desire to want female friends unless it was to get into a relationship/sex. At best they’re just acquaintances. So it’s hard to imagine a feeling of something that you never envision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:18 AM
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That would be true if you’re known as the town bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:43 PM
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Many such cases with women rationalizing their promiscuous mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:30 PM
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Yes if he leads women on. Most women are not giving sex if they know that’s all he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:26 PM
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What does that prove? YOU were the one asking for sex.(assuming if your story is true) Chads can’t ask women for sex, women generally are looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:08 PM
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Men aren’t putting effort into LTR because most women aren’t LTR material. The fact that you deal with those guys who only wants sex explains more about you. Most guys don’t have that many bodies but you somehow end up around the men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:10 PM
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If you want more men to be happy, it’s better to have less women being ran through. Most men would rather have a desirable LTR partner than a bunch of promiscuous women that we have to share. And what makes an impact on casual sex is women being hypergamous. Since the top men are able to have an abundance of women, they’re more likely to want to have casual sex with available women. I don’t believe women start off wanting casual sex, they were just placed there by the men they chased. It wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:39 PM
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Slutshaming is because of men looking for long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:39 PM
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Again, it’s best to think of the general, not hope for exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:09 PM
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Popularity/status. Can be anything as long as you’re well known. Especially with celebrities. I’m just explaining what status means in redpill. Doesn’t mean I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:52 PM
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No I meant popularity. Although being rich can help with achieving popularity, it doesn’t mean it’s the most important unless you want gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:22 PM
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Popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:40 PM

I believe going into casual sex is their rebounding phase from being used. But they aren’t going to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:27 PM
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Never said I could prove it. Can’t know because why would women admit they were degraded by other men? Just stating what I believe using pattern recognition of my personal and others experience. Including the discussion of rape amongst other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:43 PM
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That sounds high. But I guess you don’t care about bodycount so fair to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:42 PM
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What was her bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:07 PM
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You can believe what you want. I use whatever pattern I recognize and conclude that promiscuous driven women is a lie and was never their original intention. If you believe most men are turned on by forcing a woman to sex, that’s fine too if that’s what you believe you see. I don’t see it because there seem to be more women getting fuckzoned than men actually acting on force rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:58 PM

Some guys don’t care about bodycount, so that could apply to them. But plenty of men don’t feel that way. Perhaps you could try to convince he’s special to her, but me personally, I can’t imagine that changing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:35 PM
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I’m giving you an honest answer. You could’ve used another example of men lying. Because yes men do lie too. But fantasizing rape isn’t it. And no I didn’t know what you meant because some women think rape is when a guy manipulates them into giving them consensual sex. I’m sure there are women out there that enjoyed casual sex without ever getting fuckzoned in the first place.(This is me being dishonest because I don’t actually believe that.) But they aren’t the majority. Especially the women on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:28 AM

Yeah I think so. There’s a reason why many men get sexually frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:01 AM

Nope. Otherwise men would be complaining about how expensive hookers are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:12 AM

Well most men aren’t manwhores so you shouldn’t worry about it anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:46 AM

Sex is a need for men because of validation. If it was sex only, men could pay for hookers but many guys can’t feel satisfied from that because they can’t feel validated. Same with high bodycount women, they won’t feel validated if multiple men has used her in the past. He isn’t special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:43 AM
39

fit,virgin,loyal,empathetic a 30+ woman Sounds more valuable than the average 20yos
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:53 PM
2

Whatever helps you feel better 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:29 PM
1

No it doesn’t work. If women actually wanted casual sex with no strings attached from the beginning in their teenage years, we would see less trauma from them and more guys getting laid while not having to lie for sex. And I don’t know what you mean by rape. If you meant rape as in liking the idea of forcing a woman to have sex and she didn’t want to, I don’t believe most men would want that. Men fantasize more about women wanting them, not forcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:18 PM
0

I don’t think you’ll get an honest answer from the ones replying. Women aren’t going to admit they tried to get love/commitment with sex and failed because it indicates the experience of low quality women. However, sex seems to be “enjoyed” after that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:22 PM
5

If you look at their actions. Generally, young women prefer men their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:48 AM

Men struggle with dating so it makes sense they are here. But I don’t understand why some women who are in “happy” relationships live on these subs🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:41 PM
0

It’s not about them trying. It’s about them having standards and not wanting to date a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:29 PM
4

Yeah pretty much. 0 miles virgin is ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:10 AM
6

I don’t understand how that makes them insecure. If the ran through woman actually likes them, what’s to be insecure about? That’s why I asked if it’s the bodycount or the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:01 AM
5

I asked many guys this. If it’s the behavior or the bodycount that they’re not attracted to. I believe it’s definitely bodycount but they don’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:36 AM
2

Women in hoe phase would definitely have sex with men they don’t want to date. But they are in a hoe phase for a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:54 PM
1

Does the 7+ go down to as it was for 3>?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:41 PM
0

Is that supposed to be an insult? Because many men would agree that it’s better to be single than commit to a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:23 PM
1

Dm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:50 PM
1

Again, simps exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:56 PM
0

Yeah simps exist. Water is also wet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:55 PM
1

No. You just have less options for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:53 PM
1

You’re speaking of who they USED to date. That would be different. I thought the discussion is for who they’re currently dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:24 PM
2

Because I don’t think I’ve ever met them or seen a post about them. Guys who date those type of women are usually positive about them and are the ones hating on redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:17 AM
3

But those men aren’t complaining about those type of women. The previous commenter was talking about men who talk down on low quality women but continued to date them and financially support them. I’m asking if you think those type of guys are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:05 AM
2

Do you think they’re common?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:59 AM
1

Hopium overdosed when the guy is hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:58 AM
1

Well the type of men she’s talking about is redpilled no? This is purplepilldebate after all. They don’t talk about it because they’re embarrassing and pathetic and would be called out by other men. Those men aren’t part of the general that you’re hoping to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:50 AM
1

As long as she’s hot for what? For sex? Sure. For relationships, they would definitely say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:45 AM
0

1 They say “women” because that’s what they believe women want in general. And what does that have to do with hypocrisy? 2 That wasn’t the point. When men claim that women go for bad men, they’re talking about women who are wanting relationships. Yet those women get screwed over by those type of men. So they are stupid for chasing those type of men. However men aren’t chasing slutty women for relationships, they’re only using them for sex. Sure there’s pregnancy risk and I’m sure those men are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:42 AM
0

Okay so you just made a random comment about a certain group of men that doesn’t really describe redpillers assuming this is what op is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:12 AM
1

That would be low intelligence to call out something that is a minority. And if you want to counter by claiming that women who are attracted to dark triad men are rare too, then I can say if that was the case, dark triad men would be struggling to find sex/relationships. But they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:48 AM
6

You know men like that? Because from my experience, men who date those type of women are not bitching about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:39 AM
-1

No they don’t. Men are aware that simps do exist and have called them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:26 AM
1

Those specific type of men would definitely be against redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:18 AM
2

For example 1, those are two different types of men. For example 2, men aren’t stupid for going for slutty women just for casual sex. If it was for relationships, yes it would be hypocritical but these types of guys wouldn’t talk down on slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:12 AM

Are you happy because no man “outcompeted” you by sleeping with her first? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:25 AM
3

Guys who believe they can actually get genuine attraction from just making more money are misguided. That’s like majority of redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:14 AM
6

Women can sense what a man is doing on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:14 PM
5

I can’t tell if he already knew that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:24 AM
18

I don’t think women want a child from someone they don’t find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:33 AM
0

Obviously we don’t know you. But it’s best for people to understand the generalizations rather than hope for exceptions. The main point was on OP’s take on men leaving their women once she ages. Which is unlikely to happen. The reason why men don’t want older women is mainly due to her experiences not because of her age. Plenty of 30+ women can be physically attractive but the experiences can turn men away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:30 PM
13

Older men have negative views about SINGLE women their age, not MARRIED women. They’re not going to leave a woman because she grew old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:50 PM
2

I tried explaining this but they choose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:47 PM

What would him not getting laid has to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:29 PM
4

That would be most men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:57 AM
7

They could also be engaged in casual sex and not know it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:18 PM
19

True. Men don’t either. They’ll lie up and not admit they used hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:11 PM
1

Okay thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:31 PM
1

What does top 10% of women mean? Because plenty of women can look attractive with makeup on and that’s way more than 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:44 PM
3

Sounds like you fulfilled your revenge fantasy👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:32 PM
3

He wouldn’t have gotten that feeling from women his age. Can’t get it from someone you’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:16 PM
2

Those quotes you listed aren’t necessarily said by the same men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:11 PM
1

The problem is you have no way to prove that these men will leave their partner once their partner gets old. And you still fail to understand that men don’t like women with experience, not specifically age alone. Perhaps it’s something you choose not to believe. Men talk shit about women who’s slept around and been used by other men. Which includes older women who’s still in the dating market. But they’re not saying anything to a older woman that are married. Rather they usually compliment them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:45 PM
2

You’re focusing on posts men make that triggers you. I’ll just let you have this because it’s a waste of time for me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:06 PM
2

A lot of men are checking out too. I don’t think it’s mainly because men aren’t attractive but also because they don’t put effort since the quality of average women are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:18 PM
-1

No man is saying that last part unless they’re trolling or extreme basement dwellers. You sound like someone on inceltears who specifically search for certain opinions/trolls to confirm your bias. Men are not attracted to women who gave her body to other men, not really about the age. That’s something hard for a lot of you to accept and insult men by calling them a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:49 PM
1

If you don’t accept and keep insulting men’s preferences, how do you expect men to stop putting you down? Also you’re right that many men don’t find black women attractive. But I don’t see men putting down black women nor insulting them. Only their past actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:15 PM
3

“They don’t date a real woman like me, but would rather they girls” Sounds like the equivalent of a nice guy. And sure some men might put other women down but women don’t accept mens preference and starts to insult them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:57 PM
0

It’s valid to assume women are lying. Women tend to lie about their past. You can blame other women for that. But if there was a way to know if she isn’t lying, then they would be forced to admit how much they find old women unattractive. As for your previous comment, not every man is going to leave because their wives got older. Plenty of men would be happy to grow old with their ideal partner. Perhaps this is women’s issue on what type of men she’s choosing which they do a terrible job of. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:18 AM
0

That’s not how it works. I keep seeing this dumb argument being brought up many times. Men don’t want to older women because she didn’t choose him when she was in her prime and wasted herself on other men. Not because she’s older. There was a post earlier about opinions on virgin 30+ women and many men consider her to be a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:07 PM
1

I think my comment has triggered many of you. I didn’t say it was impossible but still a likely chance. And not every woman will have normal or high fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:35 PM
-1

I didn’t say every women can’t get pregnant after 30. But fertility does start to decline after 30 so it’s just something to be concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:10 AM
-2

No, I think many guys might find that attractive. I think the concern would be if she can have kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:54 AM
5

I’d say they hate virgins because they expect men who don’t want women who’ve been used/slept around to be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:35 PM
2

Okay so what? Does that mean that we’re supposed to find you attractive? What’s the goal here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:43 PM
2

Plenty of women complain about men slut shaming them. In fact, I think that’s what I see most when women complain about dating. Not their looks. Don’t know if he’s low value or not. You probably have lower standards to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:28 PM
1

Men don’t lose value because women are rarely complaining about high bodycount men or ever bringing them up. For women, yes they do lose value because plenty of men desire low bodycount/virgin women and is often discussed about. Which definitely triggers many women. But that doesn’t mean high bodycount women won’t find a partner. It just depends on their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:50 PM
3

Ask women that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:15 PM

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:20 PM

That’s pure cope. I don’t believe age turns women off but I also don’t believe attractiveness increase with age on men neither. Men just have more money and become less inhibited as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:57 AM
1

I guess you’re assuming men and women feel the same way about sex. Which they don’t. But if I was a woman, I’d probably be the same as other women, seeking the best partner hoping to not get used. I wouldn’t be a tradwife either. And never cared for one as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:42 PM
-1

If I was a female, my perspective of sex would change or will I still feel like a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:19 PM
0

It’s not illogical. I’ve seen young women do things for certain top tier guys where that dependency fades away once they realized they were only being used. However I don’t believe women want to be dependent on the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:17 PM
-5

Weak response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:50 PM
-6

Women and men are not the same. So their perspective will change if they were a woman. They would be chasing the top men rather than being promiscuous if they were raised as a woman. I’m sure many women would be dependent if they got the man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:24 PM
-9

Men don’t want a hoe. Having a degree isn’t a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:02 PM
-3

Can women get a degree and not be a hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:01 PM
2

If this is a cheap victory for you, I’d let you have it. The reality is you’re the one making women insecure by pushing this agenda when many guys are trying to prove that these women are more than enough. We’re more concerned about their past actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:52 PM
4

Men don’t judge breast size as much as woman judging mens looks. I see more women complaining about men judging women’s past than their looks. This means that men care more about actions than her being a top tier model. Most men probably have fantasize relationships with average women who doesn’t meet those top tier beauty standards. I don’t think I can say the same for women. Looks still matter to men of course, but the threshold is way lower than women’s requirements. Any women can lock down a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:16 PM
1

The bigger breast woman would be more attractive but it’s not that big of a deal. The man would be happy with anyone of those two. However, there’s a huge difference between a virgin woman and a woman who been fucked by multiple guys. The tall douchebag will still get more women interested in him than a short man with a “great personality”. Physically attractive men are guaranteed to get laid. Physically attractive men are not. If looks doesn’t play a big role in men than we should see more phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:53 PM
1

Definitely Elon Musk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:42 PM
3

How small?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 PM
5

It’s a bonus, not a requirement. Men care more about the acquired traits that OP mentioned. Meaning just because a woman is a gigastacy doesn’t mean she’s desirable if she was a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:39 PM
9

Nah I’ve seen women simp for skinny guys more. It’s not really about how much muscle they have, rather how attractive their face is. Which proves OPs point because having an attractive face can’t be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:29 PM
1

No it’s because even normies will struggle finding a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:29 AM
2

So normie guys? Which is worst. Although normies do have a better chance of finding a decent woman as long as he’s still young. Blackpill doesn’t mean you can’t get laid. Just a rather unpleasant route compared to attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:57 PM
-1

You’re not uncommon. But it’s definitely insulting that women who unattractive men can get seems to be extremely promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:19 PM
3

Some men do claim that. I don’t doubt those relationships guys can be happy. Because that’s their standards. But why do you claim it’s cope? It doesn’t mean non bluepillers are jealous. They’d rather not be that guy. Or fear being that guy. Edit: sorry I misread. You meant certain of groups of men that claim all bluepillers are unhappy. Sure I can agree it’s cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:43 PM
2

Well yeah that’s you. Doesn’t mean others want what you have. So using the word cope is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:11 PM
4

Some men just have standards. If they want to sleep with these type of women that’s been around with unattractive men, it’s no different from just paying for hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:40 PM
2

Okay so you believe women are intentionally promiscuous? You asked how I feel about them and I said they are not common
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:45 PM
2

So you believe other women want to sleep around like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:37 PM
2

I believe majority of women become promiscuous due to being fuckzoned. So they’ve always been used. As for the women who were intentionally promiscuous from the start, they are not common and I don’t think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:24 PM
1

He’s not taking care of her in that case. And he’s not sleeping around unless he’s using prostitutes. Not every guy you see is lazy slob that only works the minimum. In fact, that guy is probably lucky if he had a woman like that sticking around while he puts no effort. This isn’t the average relationship. Most women would’ve left.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:14 PM
3

Why do you make it sound like a bad thing and he’s only using that woman? You believe women would rather be a whore than a wife that’s being taken care of?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:20 AM
1

They use sex hoping for a commitment from chads. Getting attention is all they need to be fulfilled with being object of desire. While for men its sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:09 AM
4

Men want a woman that hasn’t been used by multiple men. But those women are the ones with high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:02 AM
2

Them breeding with 2s and 3s make sense. But for the ones who managed to get “hot women” without having a lot of money, they are the minority when it comes to first world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:06 PM
3

Isn’t betabux simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:58 PM
3

Appearance do play a huge role that people wouldn’t admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:14 PM
3

It’s just women trying to defend their promiscuous mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:56 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:13 PM
0

Yes they’re better at it which means people would rather watch mens amateur sports than women’s professional. That’s if a hypothetical scenario mens professionals does not exist. And as I was saying earlier, women are at an advantage since they’re getting paid for less performance compared to amateur men. Obviously sports vary but major sports like soccer and basketball are good examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:09 PM
-1

So men do not have an advantage over women in sports. They get paid for how much they’re bringing and many times women’s sports had to be funded by the men’s profits. Also, I’m sure majority of the population would rather watch amateur men’s sports than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:34 PM
-2

Technically women earn more as a professional athlete. They have been defeated by amateur males that never got paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:01 PM
1

If those guys would rather do that but most attractive men do not use hookers. The effort they need isn’t comparable to the average man. Like I said, the guys you know aren’t as attractive as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:24 PM
1

They’re probably just high tier normies. Don’t see why attractive guys would pay for escorts when they can easily get on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:31 AM
1

Because I myself look down on other men who paid for sex workers. Would I not look down on myself if I did the same thing? I try my best to not disappoint myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:12 PM
1

There is definitely more you can do to make it worse. And many people do look down on others who have paid for sex workers. Even though women are not attracted to male virgins, I’m sure they’d see guys who paid for hookers as less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:36 PM
1

They don’t. Sounds like something you see in the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:59 PM
2

No. It’s not hard to get sex. Choosing not to pay shows more self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:58 PM
0

Physically attractive men don’t pay. And arguing they pay with their looks is weak as it’s not comparable to provider route.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:44 PM
1

There are men(physically attractive men) who get it for free and have a meaningful experience. I see paying for sex as a way of being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:39 PM
7

Don’t think I could live with myself knowing I paid for an escort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:44 AM
2

I don’t believe women see men for casual sex. If they hook up with him, they’d date him if he didn’t fuckzone them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:47 AM
4

I disagree with how it’s similar to a “deadbeat who gives good D”. But a 5’3 guy definitely makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:57 PM
-1

Probably shouldn’t date regardless until your older. Many girls seem to gain trauma from boys their age but rarely talks about it compared to older men grooming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:06 PM

True. Getting a 4 year degree that you’ll never use sounds like the smarter move lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:26 AM

Boys do not put effort into school compared to girls. Just because they have better grades, doesn’t mean women are smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:28 PM
3

Mainly because these men just want to be themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:23 PM
-1

The guys who can’t get laid doesn’t want those women because of their past so it’s just an easy insult for them to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:41 PM
1

I see this common in this subreddit with women. It just sounds like a revenge fantasy to get back at men by pushing the agenda that “women can fuckzone a man too”. I wouldn’t take her comment serious at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:16 AM
1

It’s more like women have the option to find someone that loves them unconditionally. They will always find some simp that will worship them as long as they lower their standards enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:54 AM
2

What if he doesn’t shame women his age but choose not to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:52 AM
1

Guys who dated at younger age still wants younger women. I don’t know why it’s hard for women to believe experiences is unattractive to a lot of men. And even if what you say is true, I don’t see the problem. Assuming he worked on himself, he should feel he deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:41 AM
2

Having a child would be a big motivator for me tbh. Other men would probably agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:17 AM
3

Attractive men do better than average men. You said personality is more important. Therefore they should be experiencing the same as the average man. But they don’t. The men who starts building wealth and is seen as what others like to call the betabux. Plenty of men say it gets easier when they get older with money yet struggle when they were younger. Most people would agree younger people are attractive. And your take from your original comment was looks change. But it doesn’t mean someone wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:01 AM
2

Prime as in looks, typically 18-25. People do settle. Especially women as they age. Can’t get the man they want and go for men they wouldn’t have given a chance during their prime. There’s a reason why men don’t like older women. They don’t want to be settled. If personality is the only thing that matters, then there should be attractive guys who struggle. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:42 AM
3

Nope. Older men hate older women because those women are experienced and they wouldn’t have given them a chance during their youth. A man doesn’t want to be settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:29 AM
1

Without the looks, the person will less likely to be picked unless it’s settling. Most people have to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:23 AM
2

Most men won’t stop loving a woman because she aged. Same would apply to women. They bonded when they were in their prime. So yes looks can still be the deciding factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:59 AM
2

So you think old men actually find old women attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:54 AM
1

That’s not how it works. Men find older women unattractive because she has experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:12 AM
1

Not really. Because a lot of young men say they don’t want older women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:09 AM
2

It’s okay if looks change, you can learn to love that person due to the shared youthful experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:01 AM

Most as in who? Are you talking about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:34 PM

Needs more context. Do you have studies that show this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:19 PM

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:43 PM

When I say attractiveness, I’m not always talking about looks. Men typically don’t find older women attractive due to older women’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:21 PM

You can’t bond with someone you’re not attracted to. Why is so hard for women to believe that older women are unattractive for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:51 PM

Those women could probably be going with men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:50 PM

Stats that show this? Because I thought women were the ones who initiate the most divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:49 PM

They won’t be able to bond with anyone. Might as well go for the attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:39 AM
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I don’t think most guys would leave a woman that gave her youth and purity to him even if she gets old. Older women are unattractive mainly because they have experiences with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:25 AM
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Most men do want a partner they can bond and relate to. I’m sure if you ask these older men if they prefer to be a “18yo dating an 18yo” or be an “older rich man dating an 18yo”, they’d choose the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:20 AM
1

Older women will still get more attention than any man in existence. But they’re just not as close as younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
2

Good looking guys can be themselves and don’t need game
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:25 AM
1

Is he the only guy you’ve been with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:22 AM
1

Unfortunately it’s unlikely we will ever know. If you ask women to do a survey, we won’t know if they’re being honest. The closest study we have are online dating apps of what type of men women are likely to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:21 AM
1

Were they dating women their age or younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:51 PM
1

lol that’s still easier than finding a good partner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:17 PM

How do those men have bad personalities? Unless you mean having standards is considered a bad personality. And what do you mean by them having a bad past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:35 PM
1

Men date average looking women. It’s not the womens looks, its women’s past and personality that makes men standards considered to be high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:11 AM
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Are you talking about looks specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:01 PM
3

I have a few friends who are dating 30+ women. They just see them as fwb so I’m wondering how the the women see them as.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:55 PM
2

What you consider a great partner might be different from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:01 PM
-1

Men fantasize about romantic LTR too, you know that right? They think of more than sex. When a guy wants to take a woman seriously, she’s seen as more than just sex to him. But most women aren’t getting taken seriously unless she lowers her standards. You’ve had one relationship, why can’t you find another?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:16 PM
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Personality is one of the requirements for men wanting LTR. If you’re only good for sex and that’s all men see you as, then unfortunately you’re not high value enough for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:56 PM

Except he probably thinks women don’t care about looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:01 AM

It’s different when they’re desiring you. But usually clingy girlfriends are just clingy to whoever they’re with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:18 PM

Chads are guys who can be whoever they want and can still get girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:15 PM
1

It’s easier to not be a virgin or have high bodycount as a man if your standards are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:26 PM
1

Do you think that’s how most men would view it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:34 AM
2

I’m playing her card because she thinks men will leave their wives once the wives get old. Which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:01 AM
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You think men will leave their wives once she turns 30 which is not true. Men don’t want want a woman that he never experienced her youth with. It doesn’t mean she isn’t attractive to him anymore when she “hits the wall”. It’s the experience, not the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:59 PM
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But why won’t you date him? He’s no different from the young men who will also be old and retired as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:40 PM
1

Is that really why men want low bodycounts? Let’s say if high bodycount didn’t had anything to do with her cheating/divorcing, does that mean men will start seeing high bodycount women as marriage material?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:33 PM
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I didn’t say there were men who didn’t value friendship with women. But plenty of men don’t. Hence the 45% study. Not only that but men will lie to women to try to get them to sleep with them. Men will also put themselves in position of abundance of women to increase chance of gaining sex/relationship. You might think it’s sad that men sees women this way but that’s just way it is. Being friendzoned after wanting more is a sign of disrespect towards men. I don’t know your situation but many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:20 PM
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By close friends, it’s someone you exclusively hang out with. Not just only in a socialized environment with groups of people. There is a high chance some of your male friends have fantasize sleeping with you. They wouldn’t hang out with you exclusively without the intention of intimacy. But even if that’s still not the case, lots of men don’t typically see women as someone they just want to be friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:03 PM
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Not every man will see women as close friends. Doesn’t mean they can’t socialize with women but it’s not someone they hang out with outside of working environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:18 PM
3

Being social is a personality trait. Lots of guys prefer to be themselves and would rather not fake being social just to attract certain women. So being attractive is important because you can be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:15 PM
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I don’t think most men will meet an acquaintance and hit it off. Also means they will have to fake being friends with women in the first place which is a lot of work for small chance of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:04 PM
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Did you not read my comment? Women can still look good in her 30s if she takes care of herself and isn’t covered in tattoos/piercings. But that’s not the main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:18 PM
0

It’s not wether she’s ugly or not. She’s older with more bodies/trauma/experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:57 PM
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It’s because the women who are now giving them a chance are old and past their prime. They aren’t furious when talking about younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:34 PM
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It’s because it’s about women who are in their 30s that would never give them a chance when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:32 PM
3

I think revenge only happens when they had girlfriends that cheat/dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:13 PM
2

I was asking if women think men are bad for having standards. Like only wanting a woman that’s never had casual sex or has a low bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:10 PM
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Does having standards make you a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:47 PM
1

That’s a dumb logic. Men can choose different paths given their choices and experiences as a man. Same applies towards women. There’s more differences than having different genitalia when it comes to gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:07 AM
1

Yes of course. But it’s rare and it shouldn’t be a necessity for women to find the man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:48 PM
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Because men and women are not the same. Different interest and different goals. That’s how the world was built since the beginning of human civilization. Lots of men will fake their way into sex/relationship by progressive conversations. It’s one of the advices given to men to achieve success with women. Sure, guys who intentionally have close female friends might have a higher chance of success. But that goes the same with guys who have lower standards and don’t mind dating older or promiscuous…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:07 PM
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He has no interest in them and they don’t fulfill his friendship needs. Doesn’t mean he can’t have casual conversations with them but it’s not part of his priorities unless he wants to romantically pursue them. There’s nothing wrong with that and plenty of women are with guys with no female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:44 PM
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No. He doesn’t hang out with them outside of working environments. But why would that be concerning?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:29 PM
2

What if he have acquaintances/women he casually talks to at work/school?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:16 PM
4

Porn isn’t a “romantic” fantasy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:03 AM

Even if it’s 70%, it doesn’t mean it’s a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:04 PM
0

It’s just more gaslighting. It’s tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:16 PM

I think appearance does play a role. An attractive woman(or at least decent looking) who’s a virgin would have more men wanting her. But an unattractive woman who’s a virgin is unlikely to find a partner due to men not wanting to invest his time and energy in someone who he doesn’t find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:49 PM
1

I doubt that happened. Unless perhaps you’re part of the group of men that has been raising these types of women’s ego by being attracted to women who slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:57 PM
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A desperate loser who has no options. But this scenario rarely happens. Women don’t just go around trying to find hookups with desperate men. Especially from guys who starts to fall for promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:34 PM
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So they do have standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:26 PM
1

Not desperate for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:18 PM
1

Are you saying guys who wine have lower standards? Why would they be wining?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:16 PM
1

They’re doing both
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:14 PM

Sure you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:13 PM
0

Men who have standards are more whiny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:08 PM
-1

No such thing as a man getting fuckzoned by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:05 PM
1

Because they don’t. But that depends on what the guy wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:39 PM
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A man can develop love for the woman that gave him their youthful age and experience. But why would he invest his time in a woman that has nothing to offer, the one that gave it away to another man? Men who say older women are no longer attractive are talking for the guys who are currently finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:02 AM
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It’s only in their 30s and up that they realize they’re worth something. When she’s ready to settle down…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:52 AM
1

So you think these men would actually date and commit to these high bodycount women if those women showed interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:13 PM
4

Not disagreeing. Bad apples in every community.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:38 PM
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No it’s a genuine question. I’m wondering what she thinks the intentions of insulting was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:05 PM
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Okay that’s fair. Plenty of women don’t care. They still have options no matter what. But I do think some women do get hurt by it because they also start insulting men when they say they don’t want a high bc/promiscuous past women. Calling the men “insecure”, “dating women younger because he can’t get women his age”…etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:02 PM
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Are you saying men only insult sluts because they can’t get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:07 PM

It makes sense if guys who can’t find a woman to have sex with relies on porn. But if you have someone and you’d rather watch porn, you’re definitely addicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:11 PM

It is a realistic option. But men don’t just want “sex”. They want to be desired. Paying for a hooker won’t solve mens problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:14 PM
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Not having a promiscuous past, not hanging around promiscuous but environment, loyalty, doesn’t play games/tests. If I go deeper into this, it will just trigger a lot of women as they think it’s controlling. Putting effort means she put effort from the start, not just the man doing all the work. Unfortunately, for the average man, he will always be putting all his effort and as well faking himself to attract women. Basically guys don’t want to do the all the chasing. Rather all that energy shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:48 PM
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It would depend on the man. I’d say respect and putting effort is a big one. As well as the man being able to be themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:25 PM
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You don’t know what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:00 AM
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Unfortunately, we’re just looking for unicorns nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:28 AM
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Less men are approaching nowadays. It doesn’t make them appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:37 PM

Unattractive guys have to find a woman who finds him attractive. Unlikely to happen. And he also has to find her attractive…(no single moms, no promiscuous women…etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:28 PM

Chads and guys with options are what women want. So basically unattractive guys just have to trick a woman into thinking other women want him. Just leads to more toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:22 PM
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I don’t think they will stop loving him. His looks are part of his genetics. If he gets old or a tragic event happened, she still knew what he had and already developed feelings from the start. Unlikely they’d leave him compared to guys losing money/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:43 AM
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That’s not an excuse. Plenty of women choose men with options thinking she’s a catch for him. You seem butthurt by my comment as a result to insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:16 PM
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That’s women’s fault for being the fool that gets fuckzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 PM
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I’m a guy and this is my experience with them and my guy friends who fuckzone girls. Good luck finding a study that asks underage girls if they wanted to sleep with a bunch of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 PM
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This has been my experience with them when I was in high school. Do you really think teenage girls are thinking about wanting to only have sex with all the chads in her class?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:37 PM
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Usually FWB happens because men don’t want to commit to them. And women typically go through a hoe phase for a reason(like insecurities and guys who fuckzoned them). Young teenage girls are not thinking about hooking up nor wanting a fuckbuddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:02 AM
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Their children will also be dealing with hypergamy. As well as an increase of single mothers not being able to find a betabux to take care of them. So it’s not really for the best if women don’t benefit from it. Tax money isn’t going towards porn or ai. That will never get approved. That’s up to men to decide what they want. And they aren’t porn addicts. Porn is just a second solution because the effort for low value women isn’t worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:49 PM
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They don’t really go around showing of their relationship from what I’ve seen. And less likely to hang out with promiscuous behavior women. Also it depends on the group of women. I’ve noticed it’s more common with Hispanic women. But this is just my anecdotes. They aren’t that common compared to the general women who only want guys their own age however. But they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:44 PM
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A woman who’s dating an older man probably wouldn’t relate to you. So they’re less likely to be your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:31 PM
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Women don’t want it to exist because they know they will stop benefiting from men. We would have less promiscuous women and less sex workers. Also reduces backup plan to find a betabux. I see that as a win. And sure it can be expensive. But so is dating a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:48 PM
0

Realistic AI would probably take over in the future. Wouldn’t harm anyone would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:14 PM
2

Which leads to trauma in future women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:02 PM
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This is my observation. As well as linking it with biological facts. Women see sex as emotional while men see it as physical. Men are also design to spread their genes while women pick the best mates. In high school, rarely are girls promiscuous. They aren’t thinking about hooking up with multiple guys in their class. However that’s the best time for other boys to manipulate them which surely leads them to promiscuity. It would be difficult to do a study because observing underage teens sexual b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:50 PM
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Not as much as men. Sure there are a few women who were promiscuous from the start, but they are a minority. Majority of promiscuous women seem to be led on by guys from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:28 PM
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Sounds like girls should work on developing a strategy on how to keep a guy…men try to get out of the friendzone while women avoid being pushed into the fuckzone. The dishonesty of men is the equivalent of women leading on a guy. Teenagers deal with insecurities and chase attention to cope. Like a person doing hardcore drugs knowing it will keep getting worse. That’s the issue with young girls. If there was no insecurities and she believes she will find someone, she wouldn’t let a guy hit knowin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:24 PM
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They do think about loyalty and exclusivity, especially girls. In general, they don’t want to be thots. But guys usually fuckzone them and this leads to promiscuous behavior such as entering a hoe phase. Just a way for them to cope. A girl is not going to have sex with a guy if she doesn’t think it will work. Unless she’s insecure and dealing with loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:10 AM
0

Sounds like pair bonding issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:39 AM
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If they have 20-30 bodies then it’s obvious they’re purposely hooking up. However, we don’t know the story of their first few bodies. I believe majority of women do not have intentions of having causal sex when they were teens. Rather they were driven to it by the guys who fuckzoned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:20 AM
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It doesn’t prove anything. There’s no context you can see behind those couples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:22 AM
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What responsibilities? She’s the fool who chose him. It’s literally a common advice from many men. Don’t treat women too nicely or else she will be turned off. Which leads to women choosing deadbeats. What they blindly seem to be attracted to. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:33 PM
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The women choose the fathers. You can’t shame him because he doesn’t care. He got his nut, planted his seed and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:04 PM
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They’re both equally as bad imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:58 PM
2

He’s selling a online pimping course?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:36 AM
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Because he had options(or at least think he does) and didn’t find her as the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:34 AM
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I’m blackpilled so I don’t fully agree with him on the attraction of women. However I agree with his message on how hard it is to be a man and the effort you need to be successful. Kinda like David goggins version of being an entrepreneur. He sends good messages that gains a lot of listeners but he also takes advantage of it. Onlyfans and promiscuous women promote degeneracy and sends bad messages to the youth, especially girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:31 AM
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If it’s just casual sex meaning hooking up, then I don’t think it affects pair bonding for men. If he’s been in multiple relationships, then yes I believe it will affect his pair bonding. As for women, they have already lost their pair bonding if they participated in casual sex. Women don’t typically start with casual sex, rather they were forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:13 AM
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Or else we’d ALL be married happily to our childhood sweethearts, because those are the first person we “bonded” to. If the attractive guys didn’t fuckzoned girls in their teens, I’d say they would still be together. If it didn’t work, then they didn’t find that person attractive in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:07 AM
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I think that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:45 PM
3

Yes. Always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:01 PM
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Rating is not based on percentile. It’s based on appeal. I’ve yet to see a woman that’s 7/10 without makeup. Unless I just made assumptions that the naturally attractive women were wearing makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:58 PM
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If she has 0 bodycount, does it have be -4pts because of no kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:19 AM
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You should improve yourself so you can have access to those women. I do agree that having no women will make a guy insane. I think guys who can happily go the rest of their life without women could be link to low T.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:09 AM
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I noticed they still have eye liners. But they look decent. 6/10 at best. I just wonder what a 7/10+ woman looks like naturally and no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:30 AM
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No such thing as a man hoe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:26 AM
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What does a woman without makeup look like? Every time I tried to search an “attractive woman with no makeup”, it just shows women that you are describing, which they have makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:51 PM
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They wouldn’t go through a hoe phase if chad didn’t fuckzoned them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:47 PM
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You’re just one woman. Rarely, do women discourage other women from being a hoe. Quite the opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:45 PM
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Literally giving a bad message to younger girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:43 PM
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Guys don’t leave their wives for younger women. It’s definitely for other reasons. However they will cheat due to biological urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:42 AM

Young guys are still developing. But it is most of their fate to end up average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:59 PM
-1

To be fair, average men does deserve average expired women. Lots of young guys fear ending up as average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:27 AM
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If you met a woman when she’s young and stayed faithful to you, you’d leave her when she gets old?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:23 AM
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Even a dead woman will get a date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:19 AM
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They’re called incels
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:04 PM

Why do you think “looks” discussions are pointless?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:09 AM

Some are mean, some are not. Can’t really generalize the whole community. As for the guys who are mean, well there’s bad people in many communities. And reasons varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:03 AM
0

Why give up on her? Find out if she likes you and if not, move on. It doesn’t indicate she’s crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:32 PM
1

I think I find her more attractive than an 18yo virgin when it comes to LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:41 PM
2

Why would it be a red flag if she didn’t find anyone? She probably doesn’t like her options and didn’t want to give up her virginity for some guy she believes she’ll lose interest in. As for human desire, self control and discipline can overcome it. There is a red flag that she might have mental issues. But maybe some guys don’t mind it. As red flags are also common in high bodycount women and that would be of an issue for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:39 PM
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If she was insulting you, she’s definitely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:31 PM
2

I don’t actually know but it seems like bluepillers want more bluepillers so they can label redpillers as the odd ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:19 PM
1

When he’s attractive*
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:21 AM
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You don’t. But I guess “loyal” wasn’t the right word for it. More like less “likely to cheat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:20 AM
0

I believe men can still love you if you age. Because you were with him when you were young. As for finding a loyal guy, you probably won’t find him attractive. Most likely because he doesn’t have options and women seem to be turned off by it. But since you’re 22 and had never had a relationship(assuming you’re also a virgin), guys might take you more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:59 AM

We know looks matter. No one is shocked. It’s the gaslighting and women blaming it on our personalities that are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:16 AM
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Wish more women were like you. But the difference is they want to be looked at even though they won’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:11 AM
0

A woman who have too many bodies can show love towards you. But it wouldn’t make you feel special. As she has given it to other men. Same thing with single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:18 PM
1

Men want sex. But they don’t explain the context of why they want it. Obviously it’s to feel desired. Paying for it or settling for a low value woman doesn’t feel like you’re being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:05 AM

I was talking about women in general. The older guys want younger women because they don’t find the age/experiences of women their age attractive. Not because they can’t get them. Like I said, this is just cope from older women. It’s the most similar response I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:17 PM

They do know what they want. And that isn’t older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:05 AM
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So if older women can be manipulated? More men would go for older women? Also what are they being manipulated for? Sex? You can manipulate older women with money or taking care of their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:29 PM
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The men who want younger women care about virginity or at least them having a low bodycount. I don’t understand why you’re trying to tell other men that they can find older women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:24 PM
1

Is she a virgin as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:05 PM
1

They aren’t trying to impress older women. There are ways to impress older women such as betabuxxing and taking care of single mothers kids. Redpillers don’t admit it, but they do objectify women. They don’t want something that’s used and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:02 PM
1

If they went low enough, then they would’ve dated women their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:08 PM
1

What is that supposed to explain? Just because you see some men like “milfs” doesn’t mean other men will like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:04 PM
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I’m sorry to tell you but that is a mega cope. Men don’t want old women because simply old women are unattractive compared to younger women. It has nothing to do with women their age not wanting them. Men are supposed to be the initiative anyways, so if they wanted women their age, they would’ve work for it. I do think it’s mostly cope when men say men age like fine wine or men increase value at 30. But it just seems like a way to feel like they could match a younger women. Any tactic to try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:26 AM
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because there’s a reason women their own age don’t want them. Actually, there’s lots of reasons. Are you saying that old men want to date younger because women their own age don’t want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:01 AM
1

Wouldn’t be high if less simps exist in this world. Lack of slut shaming due to men putting more effort for poor results.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:15 AM
1

Let me guess, you fell in love with a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:20 PM
1

Way more than 20% of women are getting simps I don’t see a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:26 PM
2

Just shows beauty is subjective because I disagreed with most of your ratings. Madison would be a 9 to me. But I don’t really like rating girls as a lot of them have good makeup and plastic surgery. I find natural beauty more desirable even if she’s a 6 instead of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:56 PM

These women “glowed up” too late and/or had plastic surgery. They had potential to look better younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:56 AM

Even if her standards for looks is high, she eventually settles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:53 AM
1

Way more than 20% of women are getting attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:54 PM
1

No. The average men will put effort into Beckies after failing to get stacies. They’ll give them attention and money which raises these girls ego up. These women barely put effort back and aren’t even virgins. Yet guys treat them like 10/10s. If you mean Stacies as girls who aren’t hideous looking than sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:50 PM
1

I wasn’t specifically talking about looks. More like the quality of the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:16 AM
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Ask them whats attractive if they think Scarlett/Madison are mid. Most likely will mention someone you don’t find as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:13 PM
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Men would actually appreciate it if they didn't have to put in a great amount of effort to get a girl that isn't all that great, but that's not how you ladies operate. Simps are already putting a lot of effort into these women. You can’t really win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:25 PM
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The point was my standards were based on past actions while womens standard are often uncontrollable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:56 PM

And insecure man and an insecure woman who wants each other would probably love the hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:56 PM
-1

I want a virgin woman that supports and respects me. But I guess that’s considered a fantasy :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:45 PM
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I couldn’t really explain it. It’s more like as surprise or something unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:49 PM
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Puts effort into me. Makes me feel important
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:51 PM
1

Girls do the stuff for guys. But they seem to give up after the guys with option fuckzones them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:33 AM
1

Do you think they would date older women if there was no revenge involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:24 AM
2

The average 30+ year old man makes 100k+ a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:03 PM
7

most of me exes Why do you have a lot of exes? If it works, how come you haven’t found someone already?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:02 AM
1

A self respect men will not lie to himself about the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:35 PM
0

You can’t convince every man to be a simp/beta
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:23 PM
3

Both are equally important
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:37 AM
14

Women get fuckzoned. Men get friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:34 AM
23

Definition of success varies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:49 PM

It’s the gaslighting that women spread. And they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:00 PM
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go find a woman who has a good relationship with her father, who doesn't have a high n-count or lots of baggage, who doesn't go drinking and partying every weekend, taking girls trips etc and who doesn't dress like a professional with lots of tats and piercings while posting thirst traps and selfies on social media for validation. I’d love to be proven wrong if these are the women that anti redpillers are receiving. Btw you’d have to be specific with n counts. Some people think it means 10+ bodi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:58 PM
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Even if they didn’t follow redpill, they’re still not getting good women. Perhaps your definition of a good woman differs from redpill. I don’t think every redpillers are the same. You might be only talking about a certain group of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:51 PM
-1

So what type of men gets the top tier women? Seems to me you’ll get undesirable women wether you’re bluepilled or red. Only exceptions are attractive guys who women seem to break the rules for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:53 PM
3

But it seems like guys who have standards are often insulted by the opposite sex the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:09 AM
6

I thought blackpill content was against ppd rules
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:29 AM
0

I married a hood guy. A good guy because he benefits you. Redpill guys aren’t jealous of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:09 AM
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Or they’re just not attractive enough to be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:41 PM
1

It’s just a self defense mechanism women use as they don’t want to be seen down as being a non virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:08 AM
-1

Doesn’t matter, he’s considered the prize. She’s not even that attractive and can easily be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:17 PM
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Hoeflation. But doesn’t apply to chads
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:46 PM
0

More like making 6 figures. I’d say a millionaire is equivalent to a virgin Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:00 PM
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He’s more rare than the her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:57 PM
-5

If I had Elons net worth, I wouldn’t think I’m dating up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:16 AM
-3

She’s a gold digger. No way she’s above him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:03 AM
0

My bodycount is low. And I never paid for a prostitute. I don’t understand your second question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:39 PM
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No. I just think that’s the age men starting to have to accept their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:26 PM
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These older men have to eventually accept their worth and lower their dating standards. And sometimes that means having to be settled. I think a lot of young men fear ending up as those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:15 PM
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I’ll give a few short explanation. -Society shames sexless men -Biologically, a man has the urge to reproduce to ensure his blood continues -Having a relationship makes a man feel like he’s secured This I why you see chads or top men not committing to a relationship as they already feel secured for themselves. A man without relationships or sex(without paying) would feel worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:10 PM

The only way for a man to be “connected” to society is to have a woman he can have sex with? Yes I believe this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:47 PM

Some teens might’ve socialized but had bad experiences such as getting bullied or comparing themselves to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:45 PM
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Because this is the average man’s dating experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:41 PM
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I don’t think you understand then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:39 PM
2

The guys who mention this topic aren’t interested in women that sees them as a backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:01 PM
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She didn’t make him wait. He was considered a backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:27 PM
1

When I think of attractive women, I think of what percentage of women have the potential to be attractive. It’s pretty high. But for men, it’s quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:21 PM
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Not everyone wants to accept the pain of being a loser. Giving up on trying to find a decent woman is accepting defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:11 PM
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-Puts effort into the relationship (the average man doesn’t receive this) -Attractive (I find many women physically attractive if they work on themselves) -Low bodycount (0 bodycount is ideal) I never thought of my standards being high until learning about modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:01 PM
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I’m hoping you’re right but we also hear stories outside of pornography that sometimes confirms sizes does matter. Examples of how women had better sex with prior men. Or how they insult men of their physical traits if women’s feelings get hurt. Basically it isn’t confirmed wether size matters or not. They aren’t going to admit it like how they won’t admit if looks matter or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:38 AM

I think a lot of women are good choices for men. But women’s actions causes women to be unfit. Men however have little to no control over if they’re fit or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:47 AM
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Usually science, exploration, unknown history, the mystery of the world. What I notice is the most socialize/charismatic person would keep up and engage with me while others would be bored if it’s not something trendy or popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:06 PM
1

The solution is for new generation of women to step up their game up as well. Men have to meet all those checklist just to end up with a woman who’s been fuckzoned by another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:43 AM
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I found myself being the uninteresting one as I would rather talk about other things instead of sports or video games when speaking to other guys. And women seem to only talk about partying or whatever is trending on TikTok. I know this isn’t everyone but it’s from my experience in most socializing environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:39 AM
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More men would probably pay for prostitutes if porn was banned. It wouldn’t really solve their problems of finding a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:15 AM
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They hide and ignore the men that puts effort into them as those men aren’t seen as a dating potential for them(usually because those men aren’t good looking). I’m pretty sure most of those women are young and it has always been the same pattern that has been going on for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:29 PM

Yes. But if that’s not the case, then no man is unattractive. Because even ugly guys who have status are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:33 AM

Did you imply that’s what I thought the average man was? Sounds like you make a unaware assumption to redpillers. Idk what radfems are either, never thought about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:31 AM

Those attractive men are what many women would compete for. I never said attractive guys only want casual but many do as they have more options. The treatment of what attractive men gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:17 AM

Well like I said, it wouldn’t mean you can’t get laid. You’ll just have to make it up with other traits and pay in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:14 AM

Men with options will fuck women and just leave them at that. That’s the difference. The unattractive men still gets relationships but he didn’t get the same treatment as attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:08 AM

I don’t think many would be radfem or redpill if they got who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:06 AM

I think you might be able to find out if she was. But not all women can be fooled into casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:59 AM

It would depend on who is willing to settle. The ones who are left didn’t want to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:57 AM

“Women make rules for the average men and break rules for men they find attractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:48 AM

Then those single women wouldn’t be single
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:40 AM

Yes they do. But different rules are made for whoever they find decent vs whoever they find most appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:38 AM

Attractive guys are less than 20%? Idk I always see attractive guys never struggling with women. But average men will struggle and even decent looking men will sometimes struggle too. It’s like they have to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:35 AM

Physically? Yes. It doesn’t mean you can’t get laid if you’re not physically attractive. But I’m sure many guys would rather be physically attractive to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:29 AM

It’s probably because women would rather be single than be with the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:22 AM

It’s simply talking about raw attractiveness which I think is lower than 20%. Any man can get laid however. Just have to pay for it in someway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:19 AM
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You can disagree all you want. But men aren’t denying hard work will get them women. It’s just not the same type of attractiveness as physically attractive men. Just because you’re average looking and can somehow beat a hot guy up, doesn’t mean women will start going crazy for you like the conditional treatment they give to attractive men. Also lots of women choosing men for looks will often choose a skinny prettyboy who can easily get beat up over an average gymrat. How does that make the attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:13 AM
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It doesn’t really support your point. There’s a different reality and a different type of attraction when it comes towards women liking looks compared to hardwork. The thing is people see a man with a woman and just call it a relationship and just leave it at that. But they ignore the fact that not all relationships behaves the same way. There’s a reason why terms like betabux” and “settling” are used to describe relationships. There’s nothing wrong with hardwork but I don’t think you can work f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:27 AM

Yeah if she’s reformed and no longer a prostitute. I don’t shame women for n-count Really helping the slut acceptance movement. Besides; all relationships are a form of prostitution anyway. That’s true most of the time. Especially when a man pays or put all his effort into impressing a woman. However some lucky guys will be in a nontransactional relationship with decent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:40 PM

I see. I can understand why people call guys who have standards incels. Worship women or be labeled as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:36 PM

So you’re willing to date a former prostitute if she is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:57 PM

Physically, yes. But I’m talking about LTR. If a guy just views womens for her looks, then he has no self respect for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:11 PM

Depends on the chad. The ones who were born chads are probably bluepilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:30 PM

Are you saying women can have whatever personality/characteristics they want and still be attractive for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:29 PM
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I think you misunderstood my comment. The men you listed did do something about it. But the ones I’m talking about are the attractive guys who could be themselves and still get women at ease. Perhaps they looksmaxxed and worked on their appearances. Which almost every men would do if it was possible. But it doesn’t work for most men to reach that level of attractiveness. Also most men don’t get opportunities as much as athletes due to genetics and surrounding support. So there was nothing they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:22 PM
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It’s more of comparing yourself to other men. There are men out there who barely works on trying to attract women and get decent attractive women while the rest of men have to compete and take risks for women who are usually less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:31 PM
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What are your thoughts? I find it weird how every woman on reddit says they just want a kind, empathic man who treats them well...but if you just do that well to the friendzone you go. I don’t think they are lying. If you are a physically attractive looking guy that every women seems to want, she’d probably love it if you treat her well. But if you are average, you need to figure out a way to let her see value in you, which is typically the “bad boy traits” or having huge status. From what I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:18 PM

“Men today have to work 10x harder than their grandfathers for women who are 20x worse than their grandmothers.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 PM
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It’s bad but world isn’t fair. Just seems like desperation if they’re looking at anything serious with these type of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:22 PM

“Good relationship” could vary from person to person. And it would be with whoever benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:25 PM
1

Some men have more self respect for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:26 PM
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Well I didn’t say these short men only considers tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:42 AM
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6ft guys typically have options so they would rather date someone shorter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:06 AM
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You should probably approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:04 AM
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Literally this. A lot of short men would probably desire a tall woman for the increase chance of their son not ending up the same height as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:03 AM

Does being a misogynist/misandrist still applies if they meet their ideal partner that they have no disrespect for?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:36 AM
0

So you’d prefer she have let other guys fuck her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:01 AM

Well you’re supposed to be a normie and at least not ugly. But it’s not a guarantee either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:36 AM

I wouldn’t know. It’s hard to find a 1/10 woman unless older women or fat women were part of the options. The best time to cold approach for average looking guys was in high school because many girls have low self esteem and haven’t been hit on yet so they’d probably date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:11 AM
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So if you wanted to marry a woman, you’d want to let other men fuck her before you would marry her just so she can have some experiences? Also it’s not about how the sex is, it’s about a special bond that two exclusively share. Obviously it can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:07 AM

He would have to approach a woman who has never been hit on. Not even from men who just wanted to use her for sex. So yeah probably close to 1/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:03 AM

Typically from men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:59 AM
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I’ve never understood that insult. Not every guy wants a woman to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:44 AM
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The men who want younger inexperienced women would prefer virgins. But sure the average men might be fine remaining average and not caring. I do believe an ambitious man who is competitive have a higher desire for wanting a low bodycount/virgin woman. Typically young guys are more ambitious/competitive. Redpiller influencers also encourages and respects hardwork. The pattern seems to align as they also prefer low bodycount/virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:43 AM
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I’d be fine with a non virgin too. But she has to be really special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:52 PM

If it was a virgin woman, then it would make sense to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:09 PM
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Men want virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:46 PM
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Sure you have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:35 AM
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Majority of the incels I’ve talked to are too insecure to talk to women. They aren’t the stereotypical dirty basement dweller incel memes you see on the internet. But you want to believe what you want to believe. I can’t really convince you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:45 AM
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From what I’ve seen. it looks like young average guys can still get with a young woman. But they’re just women who jump from one relationship to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:54 AM
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She wouldn’t know because these true incels don’t waste time talking to her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:46 AM
2

Tall skinny prettyboys brutally smv mogs gymrat manlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:46 AM
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I’ve never met a self claimed incel that uses Craigslist. Seems like you’re thinking of a certain group of men and generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:43 AM
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What made them incels? Because if you dated them, they are less likely to be incels. The real incels have never dated as they are more aware of red flags in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:18 AM
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You only know their personalities online. How they behave irl is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:29 PM
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Women claim it’s insecurities and being compared to their pasts. Let’s say the truth is somehow revealed and the guys know they mogged every single one of them, would they still want those high bodycount women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:05 PM
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Better looking, taller, bigger dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:02 PM
-3

What do you recommend these older men to do? Assuming they have wealth and worked hard their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:30 PM
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Would they still feel insecure if they knew they brutally mogged every single one of the girls bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:23 PM
1

Same rule still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:55 AM

And how attractive the guy looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:11 AM
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What is your conclusion? Because you claim that an attractive man who hasn’t put effort will more likely be in a situationship rather than a committed relationship. I can only see that happening with a woman who needs a revenge fantasy after a heartbreak. But she would need to find an attractive guy that is willing to commit to her to fulfill that fantasy, which is unlikely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:37 PM
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Nah this rarely happens. Majority of women didn’t choose to be a slut. If she knew the guy wasn’t relationship material or isn’t committing, she wouldn’t offer him sex even if he’s physically attractive. Although it would definitely happen when the woman is in her hoe phase. But there’s a reason she was in a hoe phase in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:23 PM
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The women offer him situationship? Never heard of this scenario. If it does exist, it sounds like the woman is going through a rebound after a painful heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:06 PM
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The attractive man can’t secure a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:00 PM
1

Women didn’t choose to casually sleep with alphas/chads. They were just forced into it because that’s who’d they typically chase. I think a large percentage of women would side for the LTR with no casually sex. But there’s not enough attractive men who are willing to commit to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:59 PM
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Perhaps men would have higher standards and go for the top 20% of women that posses natural beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:48 PM

That’s not how attraction works. The average women has the potential to be attractive to most men. The average men are invisible to most women. There’s a reason why a lot of guys are struggling. Don’t see many older men meeting their partner when young from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:39 AM

Most men are unattractive but can make up for it with money and status(money is more attainable). However most men are not born with money so it takes time. Hence why young men are more likely to be single compared to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:06 AM

Did you edit your comment or did I misread? I don’t know what I replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:43 AM

Young men don’t have resources to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:30 AM

Because they have good personalities /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:28 AM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:11 PM
0

That’s even worse. It means she’s only with you because of what others opinions think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:58 PM
2

No she wouldn’t. She’d want to grow a family with Chad and grow old together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:55 AM
1

Wdym by can’t secure a partner today?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:28 AM
4

JFLLLLL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:26 AM
0

Well at least they have a open window to secure a desirable partner. Meanwhile the rest of men will have to deal with heartbreaks and working on themselves to attract high bodycount women and/or gold diggers…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:43 PM
4

It’s brutal, redpillers think money and status makes up to attract women. But it’s never as raw as a women simping hard for those young prettyboy chads just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:16 PM
0

The unattractive men you see with attractive women have a personality that guys don’t feel is suited for them nor want to be. And those “attractive” women might look good on the outside but often these women carry a undesirable past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:11 PM
3

I think there’s a difference of treatment when it comes to looks compared money/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:50 PM

Just a month? She almost ruined a man’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:26 PM
1

The person I replied to seems to thinks men gaslight. They need confirmation on something that is well known?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:03 PM
2

Idk what that game is. The games I’m talking about are games such as cod, halo, battlefield, Assassins Creed. I don’t play those games anymore so maybe it isn’t bad now. But the recent games just felt like it’s woke when you have woman being as superior to tier 1 sof units.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:51 AM
1

Growing up, I enjoyed playing games of a males fantasy of being a commando and killing bad guys. They don’t really make games and movies like these anymore. And they ruin the franchises we loved. They add female leaders and make men inferior to them in terms of skills and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:23 AM
12

People still deny looks mattering so it would make sense as why it’s repetitive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:05 AM
2

Men get to be passive, women hit on them daily, pay for their food and drinks, and they get free sex and blowjobs without having to earn money or initiate anything. Some of them are already doing this. But majority of guys won’t realize this because they aren’t attractive enough to get that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:42 AM
0

That’s not what I meant. The guys who had the chance of getting it easily are majority of the time attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:28 AM
0

Okay… I don’t know what that has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:16 AM
2

There’s a percentage of men who aren’t waiting. The threshold of men being attractive is extremely rare compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:02 PM
3

We do say that. Notice how men usually only talk about weight and age but not the genetic structure of women. And it’s not virtue signaling. I’m explaining it to you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:49 PM
-1

I feel like those are the same type of women who thinks Margot Robbie looks young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:28 PM
2

I didn’t say you had to be happy. I was explaining what men meant when they found most women attractive. They’re not taking about older women. Didn’t think I needed to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:11 PM
3

Well yeah if we use your concept, then I’d agree most women are not attractive to most men. But most women from their teens all the way to late thirties still have the chance to be attractive(maybe older if they age well). In terms for relationships, looks aren’t the only factor. Other traits can dismiss what men would consider a committed relationship. I do believe men have a different looks requirement/threshold when comparing for who they want casually compared to committed relationship. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:07 PM
2

Idk about other men but I look for other traits for wanting to take seriously. Still have to meet the minimum threshold for looks of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:42 PM
5

What they mean is most women had the chance to be physically attractive to a large percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:38 PM
1

That’s also true. Each women have their own ways of course. But you also have to understand that women will say things like they “purposely” lost their virginity to their first bf and deny they’ve been pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:29 PM
2

With a soulmate, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:26 PM
1

I think I’d get ED if I knew I paid for it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:37 PM
1

They don’t purposely throw it away. They’re just too blinded to whoever they give it to. And then they enter the “my past doesn’t matter” phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:34 PM
2

This just shows how rare it is to find a virgin woman. Very unfortunate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:26 PM
1

Probably depends on each individuals. When I was in high school, girls preferred virgin guys but they weren’t crazy about it like it was a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:53 PM
1

I’m not disagreeing with you on that. But a Chad in his prime have options so I’m sure he can easily find one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:51 PM
1

Why would a man in real life tell you that? And you’re husband is the guy we don’t want to end up as. Lots of those guys are fine being the common man. Redpillers are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:59 PM
1

Yes that’s not the only reason of course. Even if it’s hard for women, men will still want virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:59 PM
-1

Women and men are different. Women won’t look at chads and think he’s used goods. But men however will when it comes to nonvirgin women. If it bothers you, just accept it just like how most men have to accept they aren’t desirable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:40 PM
2

But that’s natural for women to go through
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:11 PM
-1

Yeah and it’s disgusting when a man kisses a woman or eat her out, when another man’s penis has been there. 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:27 PM

Okay good for the betabuxxers. None of us red/blackpillers would want to be them. Instead we fear we end up as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:53 PM
3

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:48 PM
1

Looks matter, men aren’t denying that. Why would it be a belief? And she’s just average. Not above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:09 AM
3

I don’t think it’s weird. It’s a lot harder for men to get sex without paying. However, it seems harder for women to retain their virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:56 AM
2

What do you think of men who would only take virgins seriously for committed relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:38 AM
-1

Well if you were single, you’d be considered leftover. But I don’t think anyone would think bad of you if you’ve been with one guy your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:35 AM
-5

And now they’re ruined. But oh well that’s how the game works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:29 AM
1

Not red flags on those traits alone but also not most guys types either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:52 AM
3

So it makes sense as why they won’t date her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:50 AM
2

Things such as drinking, doing drugs, hanging out with other people who do those things. Basically the environment that relates to promiscuous women. I can’t really blame women who don’t put effort into the relationship. Most guys aren’t attractive enough to have women wanting to chase them. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:20 PM
2

Low bodycount(preferably virgin), puts effort into the relationship, not doing activities that relates to promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:29 AM

It might benefit most men but the attractive men loses what they currently have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:23 PM

You do need makeup. Otherwise women in general wouldn’t be wearing makeup. It’s a shame because we don’t know who’s naturally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:41 AM

I prefer them to be virgins and look attractive with no makeup on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:44 AM

Idk narcissists women who think they’re attractive turns me off so probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:21 AM

lol no it’s not. If a girl is turned off by it, he can find another girl that would find it attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:19 AM
3

Even if a man fumbles, he can still get away with it if he’s good looking enough. Women break rules for the guys they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:01 AM
8

If a guy is attractive enough, women would be making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:26 AM
4

Depends on what you mean by the top 20%. Most of what redpillers claim to be top 20% only attracts gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:23 AM

Why are you mentioning whores? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:28 PM

Then good for you👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:09 PM

Not like that would matter anyways as men are attracted to purity. I wonder why there’s a pattern of women being open to other traits other than looks as they gain experiences…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:30 PM

Makes sense, older women care less as they need to settle. Men don’t want to be settled and are attracted to youthfulness and purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:22 PM

It will be bad either ways and is just the reality. That’s why I take the blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:09 PM

A lot of men have. Just go on any looksmaxxing forums. The one who has good genetic potential succeeds. And the ones who doesn’t, well yeah they’re still complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:45 PM

You’re correct. But most guys don’t have the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:40 PM

I think a lot of guys know women care about looks. It’s just many women deny it and blame men for their personalities/actions and that triggers many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:35 PM
-1

Save your virginity and don’t get fooled into being fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:11 AM
3

Idk how those two relates but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:44 AM
2

It’s probably better than watching another real man fuck another real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:39 PM
6

Complaining about OF models is idiotic if you ask me. It’s the losers who pay for them that gives them power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:02 PM
-1

I’ve never claim to say that? Most women aren’t at their peak but they definitely had their chance. Most men don’t no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:57 PM
0

I think they do. Just not with the average man. Most women will not get commitment with the top men so it’s best to just say they don’t want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:41 AM
7

He sees a bunch of betabuxxers who are not attractive with high bc women and thinks looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:37 AM
-4

What’s wrong with that? Most women can meet those criteria when they’re at their peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:51 AM

Men are realizing not to chase because the reward is too little
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:52 AM

From my experience, I noticed the ones who shames the most are the guys who pay for prostitutes and hang out at strip clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:47 AM

It would be ideal if you can act yourself and be with a woman that meets your standards. But most men aren’t getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:24 AM

Well same can be applied to women. Women also simp for physically attractive guys. We just don’t hear them as much because attractive guys aren’t the general male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:14 AM

Not really. When it comes to relationships, men aren’t just attracted to looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:11 AM

Unless they’re good looking or got lucky, they’re not going to find their match anyways. Redpill is the closest they’ll get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:06 AM

I disagree. Many men are definitely struggling to find their type. It’s part of the reason why redpill exists in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:00 AM

Well you said for relationships, assuming commitment and exclusively. Therefore, women need to bring more than their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:50 AM
-1

You can’t blame all men when most have not got the chance. And not all women become single mother/thots. But we know what type of men those women chose to chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:32 PM
-1

That’s sounds like a problem of women choosing the wrong men and making themselves less likely to be committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:37 PM
-1

Most men aren’t spreading their genes nor do they get that opportunity. Women choose the top men based on looks, status or however these men manipulates them wether it’s hypergamy or preselection. Although the men who women choose are also to blame for creating single mothers, it’s the women who mostly chase these men that made their choices. Sounds like women don’t properly analyze the risk of what type of men they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:31 PM
1

What’s a post wall woman’s mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:13 PM
0

Maybe you’re only focused with the dishonest men. I don’t see many men saying they don’t like older women because of “baggage”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:10 PM
-1

Wouldn’t say it’s fully equal. Women can choose to abort and no one has to pay(except for abortion), or choose to keep the baby and others will be forced to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:32 PM
1

That’s true. I think younger generations should be taught ways to avoid making single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:24 PM
0

And when the woman chooses not to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:19 PM
-5

Women already have a choice to keep the baby or not. It would be fair if the man has the choice not to be part of their lives and avoid paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:15 PM
1

No but that would be a rare scenario. Like almost impossible for it to happen. If she checked all the boxes, then it’s highly likely there would be chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:04 PM
14

It is in the best interest of women who are virgin by choice or have strict sexual boundaries and high standards and are unhappy with the current dating climate to avoid men who consume porn for anything serious, Maybe men would be more motivated to do nofap if those women exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:14 AM
1

I misread your first comment. When did you meet your wife and would you consider her the traditional values that red pillers desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:29 PM
5

Yeah desperate men exists of course. Why many young guys could end up redpilled is because they fear of ending up in the same position as these older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:38 AM
2

What you consider “nice lady” and what you consider “happiness” can differ from each individual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:56 AM
2

A lot of young men are fearing to end up in your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:53 AM
2

And they definitely brag to their friends about fucking a granny jfl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:51 AM
9

there are 20 others fighting for that spot. They aren’t high value men. Majority of single mothers aren’t getting a high income man to commit and take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:48 AM
16

They do want kids. But not raise another man’s kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:42 AM
1

Naturally attractive women are definitely pressured to wear makeup because other women who wear makeup will mog them if they don’t. And for you last point, women complain about not wanting to be objectified yet will try to meet the standards of objectifying by putting makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:36 PM
2

Are these young women inexperienced or do they have pasts with these younger guys that force them to go for older guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:29 PM

Would you yourself stay loyal/exclusive and commit to an ugly woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:12 PM
2

What’s the reason for them preferring older men? And I don’t think 5 years older isn’t that much of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:56 AM
5

Like she wants to be the prize and/or be a gold digger. She wants the guy to lead and let him put all the effort into the relationship. I don’t really know how to explain it. I would like to find someone right now while I’m still young. I wouldn’t want to begin a relationship with older women no matter my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:15 AM
12

The type of woman I want wouldn’t date someone old when they’re young. But at the same time I wouldn’t want to begin with someone in their late twenties+ either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:29 AM
4

Can’t find any natural beautiful women anymore because they are pressured into wearing makeup. Otherwise, they’d get mogged by the naturally unattractive women with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:06 PM
3

Even if she has a little acne, it’s not the bad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:39 PM
0

The ones who don’t settle are shamed as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:15 PM
3

I’m saying that the men who wants a virgin aren’t insecure either. But women think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:41 PM
2

Because they think men who worry about bodycounts/wanting a virgin are insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:51 PM
1

Would you still commit to her if she did offer on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:31 AM

Men have a lower threshold for looks though. Women don’t so they’ll never simp for the guys below their threshold. “I can change him” or “we can make it work” doesn’t apply to men below certain looks or non appeal. I don’t blame women because I myself don’t think the average man is attractive either. I’ve always wonder why some women are with unattractive men until I see the context of their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:36 PM

Not every woman can get the best man so they have to settle. We don’t know anything about their past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:19 PM

I think that’s what he meant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:19 PM
0

I’m sure if they find ones that don’t behave like tiktokers, they wouldn’t say anything bad about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:56 AM
2

The average woman would probably choose the first one and try to make it work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:43 PM
-2

That’s a hilarious take. Can’t relate nor can higher drive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:35 AM
1

I’m sure many women would want that but they end up getting fuckzoned which seems to lead them into a hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:02 AM
0

So you encourage people to sleep around before getting married? What’s the point of getting married anyways? Seems like a whole transaction for people who are settling down after having their “fun”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:58 AM
1

Just curious. As there are reasons why woman will do the chasing if the guy isn’t attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:46 PM
1

So to sum it up, undesirable men(looks) and undesirable women don’t want each other. Can’t really blame them. Perhaps those women with lazy husbands are in the same league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:23 AM
1

When I said “desirable/undesirable” I wasn’t talking about the womens looks. More like her actions, behaviors, and her past. What makes those dads horrible partners? The mothers chose them didn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:10 AM
0

Were you her first?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:07 AM
1

Just wondering, what’s your bodycount? I don’t believe dying hair and heavy body cosmetic means sleeping around like I used to before, but that’s because this trend has been rising that even younger teenagers started doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:01 AM
1

Physically unattractive men have to provide and settle for less. Yes, settle for less, the undesirable women. You asked if men can be good partners. We’ll never know unless these men had the chance with desirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:55 AM
2

Most men are not physically attractive enough to satisfy women. It’s beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:46 AM
3

If you’re able to simp for her and she still likes you back, then it’s highly likely shes a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:17 PM
24

It wouldn’t be a healthy relationship either and will be a competition when things start falling apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:34 PM
1

She would still be considered a slut. But if it’s like this for every women, then the world would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:48 PM
3

Because men want exclusivity. If she was with another men or had been in the past, it’s not exclusive. Has nothing to do with insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:21 PM
2

Yet redpill has been rising and plenty of men have been complaining about their options. Otherwise we wouldn’t have men-hating forums from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:06 PM
2

Exceptions doesn’t change the rules. And those men usually see those women as status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:31 PM
6

Guys who are friendzoned are low value. Same applies for women who are fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:15 PM
3

But men don’t want to marry sluts no matter how faithful they are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:12 PM
2

If she goes to the club, it’s an automatic red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:24 AM
1

Become a millionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:19 AM
2

JFL that’s a high value object. Not a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:24 AM
1

5 is pretty high
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:39 PM
7

What makes a woman high quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:13 PM
1

A lot of betabux guys already on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:27 PM
1

I’d like to know the true percentage of over 20 who’s a virgin or less experienced because right now I’m just overdosing on hopium.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:49 PM
4

I’m not disagreeing with you. Young women want similar age unless they’re gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:47 PM
1

At what age do you think it’s too late?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:19 PM
0

This is ideal. Unfortunately not everyone is mature enough or lucky enough to get that opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:19 PM
1

The probably don’t care. It’s better than settling with someone older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:13 PM
1

However, I’ll agree with you that the best time to start building a loving relationship is when you’re young. There’s too much choice and freedom in modern dating, and it leaves everyone dissatisfied. Find someone early on, commit to them, and build a life together. Society functioned a lot better when we did things that way. But no one seems to want that anymore, because they’re terrified they might miss out on someone “better.” This isn’t taught to younger kids. Maybe older people just want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:24 AM
1

A 6/10 who’s loyal virgin/low bc is more desirable than a 10/10 hoe. Men just have other expectations when it comes to personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:20 AM
6

It’s the closest pill to my views. I’m not thinking about other men. Just showing my opinions for guys who would leave because no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:05 PM
3

I’m not heavily redpilled. It’s just the role I picked. I can’t speak for all men, however I’d wait to have sex if she’s right for me. But it doesn’t matter, that was more of a high school thing. It’s almost impossible after to find someone who values the same. I think men don’t want to to wait because other men got it early. But it would be different if she was a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:20 PM
0

Who taught you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:17 PM
5

Yes that’s true. But you aren’t guaranteed a woman to like you even if you have everything else in life that has nothing to do with relationships. But a man who has shown to be with other women have gain attraction from more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:27 PM
3

I didn’t say they were
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:19 PM
15

Then don’t wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:17 PM
8

They want you to have other women as well to feel attracted to you. Crazy how that works…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:09 PM
-1

Because it is. Not all men are getting sex unless he provides in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:01 PM
2

I think the girls who are in the middle tend to be less sluttiest. Like they’re attractive but don’t focus too much on making themselves look hot. But women who are really attractive usually focused way too much on appearance and tend to be the most sluttiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:59 PM
3

They’re experts at getting sex but probably have lost the ability to commit to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:43 PM
5

I think there’s a huge difference between little and no dating experience. And the ones who have the most dating experience might not be a good partner at all. Do you expect promiscuous women to be experts in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:25 PM
6

Exceptions doesn’t change the rule. These average guys still had to provide(mostly by having status or the just be first theory) while attractive guys had unconditional treatment. It’s not the same. Attractive guys can also include niche looking guys too but that’s how lucky they are to find a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:17 PM
8

Attractive guys lives are way different from the average man. They get romance while average men have transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:36 PM
0

Only attractive guys got that unconditional love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:01 PM
0

Only in high school. But I regret it. I think hookup culture blinds people into believing a exclusive partner doesn’t exist. Probably because they can’t pair bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:28 PM
-1

Basically high bodycount women pushing for bodycount not mattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:22 PM
1

I don’t hate women in general. Only women I hate are promiscuous women who push for an agenda. But I can’t hate women for their preferences for wanting attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:09 PM
1

I said I wanted unconditional treatment. I am fully aware you can have relationships by providing in some way. All my ambitions I’ve achieved and currently working on is for myself. Not to advertise for a relationship. I’ve lost attraction to girls who’ve never put any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:01 PM
1

My fear is it will be too late as I will be too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:23 AM
0

You’d need to be physically attractive for unconditional treatment. Best way is looksmaxxing but not everyone has that potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:21 AM
3

Poor genes doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:20 AM
15

I just wished I was attractive to get that unconditional treatment. Of course I would love women if I got that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:45 AM
5

She will always keep changing partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:31 PM
13

Sometimes after having too much experience, they might dismiss the looks and just want someone that’s more fun
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:05 PM
-3

It just shows the reality of women that differs from what we are brainwashed. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:39 PM
2

Nope. There are more attractive women than there are men. Looks still matter but guys can find more women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:36 PM

They just have to put effort into the relationship back. Women aren’t going to leave them just because there’s another man who acts alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:27 AM
-1

It was a figure of speech… Asking a woman her bodycount will trigger certain women and you risked getting shamed back. Self reported from what I read said it was “sexual partners”. So sometimes women might not even count random hookups as partners. Average is reported to be 4, which is still pretty high to certain young men who values romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:02 AM
1

We would never know what’s average. And you’re not allowed to ask either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:23 AM
0

Some women might value romance and loyalty more than being hypergamous. But seems like a small percentage of men get that chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:55 PM
3

Some guys think 3-5 is already too high
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:54 PM
0

I think relationships doesn’t workout because people find someone better. It’s why I think you should always be in a exclusive tight social group. With little to no opposite gender friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:07 PM
4

Would women choose not to be a slut if their first few relationships actually committed to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:53 PM

I imagine even many of those who claim to value inexperienced virginity, will at some point experience and appreciate the knowledge and talent that comes with experience. Then there’s no point in having a loyal relationship. Just have a world where everyone hookups and share each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:32 PM
0

Not really. Men just have a lower threshold compared to women. Doesn’t mean they’ll forgive them if it’s below. I wouldn’t want a promiscuous women no matter how she treats me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:54 PM
3

At first they don’t. But after chasing certain guys who only sees them as casual material, that’s when they change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:58 PM
1

They get LTR too. And those girls probably want LTR more than hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:48 PM

Wouldn’t this only apply to high bodycount women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:32 AM
2

Ok and? If they already got sex then that’s already a win. Some women might lose respect, some might not care. Either ways, he got unconditional treatment from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:57 AM
2

It doesn’t matter. If you’re attractive enough, you will get women’s attention. You think prime fransisco Lachowski can’t get a woman if he wasn’t confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:35 PM
2

You aren’t getting the picture. The introvert/extrovert was just an exaggeration similar to the beta/alpha. Those introverted boyfriends still had to provide something for them to have some type of relationship. But usually the average looking guys who get the most women are more extroverted and high status. Attractive guys can be whoever he wants and will still have women coming up to him is what I meant. Unattractive guys have to work for it, put himself in a better position, change himself to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:56 PM
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I don’t know what idea you’re thinking of the redpill. I’m mostly talking about having a popular social circle and being a extroverted at minimum. If a guy is a boring, introverted and isn’t physically attractive, they’re unlikely to get any woman to stay with them. Yet these guys can still offer the “beta” qualities that women ask for. But usually only attractive guys can get away with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:05 PM
1

The guys who care about how good a woman is in bed doesn’t value romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:55 PM
2

To summarize: They want a guy that other women want but only commit to themselves. And if you’re physically attractive enough, I don’t think you’d need to do all these “redpill alpha” tactics to keep a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:45 PM
1

Even redpillers eventually settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:38 PM
1

What separates the men who don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:16 PM
2

Could be true for lower income men. But it’s debatable for guys who are making a decent wage. Which is what these women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:51 PM
4

Those women are down bad if they really need a simp to take care of her kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:43 AM
4

They should do this when they’re young. Not many guys want are willing to betabux towards women who never gave them a chance during their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:32 AM
0

I have no idea. I’ve never had any intentions of raping so I don’t know what goes on their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:44 AM
-2

I’m curious, do you know how sexual assaults usually start? Do the women know those guys and are close with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:37 AM
1

Well considering the rise of guys who are fine with dating promiscuous women, it would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:22 PM
0

I think it just depends on what relationship you want. If you want unconditional love, looks are more important. But most women don’t really give that so the rich guy will get more women. But that doesn’t means it’s the same quality of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:23 PM
1

Just a woman who sleeps around purposely or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:50 AM
0

That’s actually really good to hear. But I see it happening more on the other side on this subreddit. It doesn’t help when they forcefully push for it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:49 AM
1

A woman didn’t like it when I used other words like hoe or slut. Promiscuous is more respectful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:40 AM
-4

It could mean anything. And there could be a pattern that these women are sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:39 AM
2

They’ll still disagree with me no matter what. Whatever can to defend their promiscuous behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:35 AM
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No I don’t believe that. Nor did I ever did. But I can happily use your response to go against the women who pushed for how common it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:18 AM
-1

Do you think less men want to work for their rewards?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:07 AM
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I use the word promiscuity because I’ve been told not to use the words, “sluts” or “hoes”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:57 AM
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Okay so I’ll take you answer to go against the women who claim how common it is for women to hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:49 AM
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I’ve read it. I didn’t cherry pick. The point I’m trying to make was we don’t know if the average women is promiscuous or had been. There’s a lot of women defending and pushing for it to be common based on other comments I read that I’ve never saved
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:47 AM
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There are other comments I didn’t saved. They were explaining how common it is for women to hook up and that all their friends do it. So it’s either they are lying and pushing promiscuity to be more common or the average women are promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:41 AM
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There are of comments of women claiming that plenty of women hookup and have fwb. One comment I read mentioned how she thought it was a normal thing to do and every women she knows had some kind of hookup. Here’s examples in the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/e7IrZ0Z0Re Honestly I don’t truly believe more women want to be promiscuous but these women on this subreddit are telling me something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:28 AM
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So do you think the average modern woman - let's say 18-35, all backgrounds/income/education/locations - is a "massive thot" who posts pictures of herself on social media "wasted with her tits falling out?" The average modern woman has a Disney princess as her Instagram photo? I didn’t think the average women were until the ladies here on this subreddit mention how more women like to be promiscuous…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:58 AM
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Well in general of what self respected men wants is a woman who isn’t promiscuous or have any traits that lead to it. But it is hard to find these women, the older you get. You obviously can’t go around asking it or else the promiscuous women will actively shame you for your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:51 AM
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why not straight up just date someone who either dresses modestly, doesn’t like clubbing, doesn’t believe in friends of the opposite sex, etc? You won’t find a girl like this especially when she’s more experienced which includes trauma and heartbreaks. The best time would’ve been in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:43 AM
0

Good luck finding a woman that meets your lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:47 AM
0

Better than with someone who is promiscuous. But most people aren’t bad in bed so it’s not a worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:12 PM
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Agreed. She's probably looking for a man who's self-respect isn't based on a woman's sexuality. Of course she is. Needs to find someone that benefits her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:10 PM
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Most people can be good at sex. So it’s not something a man should have to worry about anyways. So going back to my original comment, there isn’t any benefits for a promiscuous women for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:05 PM

Mediocre sex is better than wifing up a woman who has been a slut. But it’s unlikely the sex is always mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:01 PM
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A poor sex life will very quickly destroy any relationship. This is very well documented and understood. Thinking sex isn't important in a relationship is a naive, foolish, stance. And so will a relationship with a promiscuous woman. I was exaggerating that she doesn’t have to be good in bed. But it’s unlikely you’ll have a poor sex life with someone compatible. But a promiscuous women isn’t always compatible for a man that’s respects himself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:57 PM
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But to some guys, it’s more valuable than having a woman that behaves like a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:50 PM
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Or just a man that respects himself more
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:47 PM
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For wanting a relationship, I can’t think of any positivities. And if she’s bad in bed, so what? A relationship isn’t just about sex. If you value how good she is in bed, you might as well pursue fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:33 PM
0

The rules are made to give every man a chance. No rules just show the truth of what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:13 PM
-1

I think a lot of women lie to themselves by saying the past is what shapes them. But that’s just my opinion and I’m not going to call you a liar because I don’t know anything about you. It isn’t ideal to others to have past relationships that shape them. Just depends on how you value relationships. A lot of men(and women) rather have the relationship that those rare lucky couples have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:03 PM
1

But you had multiple serious relationships. Would you have them or would you wished you had one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:52 PM
-1

Would women rather have casual sex or would they stay committed to one guy they crushed on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:44 PM
0

Then more women would be going for casual sex and there wouldn’t be girls complaining about men being fuckboys. I know women do enjoy sex, but does that mean they want an abundance of chads or would have only one chad to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:40 PM
-1

I never said it wasn’t. But does that mean women would rather have promiscuous sex than be in committed relationship with the the guy they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:01 PM
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The promiscuous women here would disagree with you. I don’t know if women enjoy promiscuous life or not anymore. I do believe it’s something they want to normalize so they won’t be shamed of their past. I wonder what cause them to be promiscuous in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:31 PM
-2

Having random sex with no commitment is promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:17 PM
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Women do enjoy it as much as men. But doesn’t mean they enjoy promiscuous sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:08 PM
1

But where did they get the idea of thinking being promiscuous was pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:05 PM
2

What media told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:03 PM
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I know you’re young but I hope you two last. Don’t let her go. I made that mistake and now I’m shamed for having standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:02 PM
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Try your best to find a girl whilst you’re still young if possible. Otherwise, your options are mostly promiscuous women as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:47 PM
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Why did you try it? Was it pressure from others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:43 PM
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They do. But I think op is trying to explain that he believes the pattern of promiscuous women starts by them getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:40 AM
1

I agree. But what would make a man relationship material? In my opinion, the most loyal relationship would be an anti social couple who doesn’t put themselves in a position with other opposite genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:34 AM
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It’s probably because it’s better to act like it wasn’t a mistake. Women go through heartbreak and need to rebound to feel they are worth more by saying they enjoy the promiscuous life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:31 AM
2

How come they don’t want to settle for you? Are you just not attractive enough for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:28 AM
1

You can enjoy sex but doesn’t mean you wanted to be promiscuous. Majority of teenage girls chased a boyfriend, not a fuckbuddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:24 AM
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Exactly. But some of my friends aren’t high value. I think it has more to do with them being in a social circle and girls are around them. These women aren’t relationship material either ways but most women aren’t in general which is a tough pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:35 AM
0

I do believe majority of guys do need the test because the relationships they are all in are vulnerable of the woman cheating even if it’s highly unlikely. But if you have such a genuine exclusive relationship, it would be such a rare scenario that you’ll never even think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:45 PM
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I don’t believe you’ll need it with the right woman. But it would make sense as guys lower their standards drastically. Seems like men will settle for women with red flags hoping it will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:11 PM
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My friends discuss which women are hoes and would stop a friend from desperately pursuing a girl. But at this point, it seems like no guy is going to find a girl so they just they just adapted to new standards. And the whole “adults don’t talk about it” depends more on the person. If it doesn’t benefit you, you’ll push to claim it’s immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:40 AM
1

I hang out with male friends. They cheat all the time. I guess women can’t see their red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:30 AM
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Idk at this point. I see women complaining about men having preferences but women can still find a guy who doesn’t care about their past (right?). Why are they so butthurt for some guys who doesn’t have a preference for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:31 PM
1

Okay that’s fair enough. I’ll start using that word. But what about women who didn’t want to be promiscuous but have high bc?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:35 PM
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Not really. But I wouldn’t mind it compared to girls who are hoes. I think more of wanting exclusivity with a virgin or a low bc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:34 PM
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Maybe you’re right based on what I’ve seen with other guys. But I can’t see myself having anything casual with a hoe(unless I get abundance of virgins, which is unlikely to happen). Otherwise I’d follow my manwhore friends. I don’t know how many men are in my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:15 PM

But aren’t there more hoes than manwhores? Meaning the guys who don’t want a hoe will die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:12 PM
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You didn’t answer the question. And what’s a less misogynist word for women who sleep around and/or have high bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:11 PM
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It means a lot of guys will be lonely because they’re options are with hoes or past hoes. Some need to vent that they’ll be lonely, but yet get called misogynists for having a respectable preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:10 PM
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Is it misogynistic to not want to date a woman that is a hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:00 PM

She wants chad to commit. But after getting forced and used for sex, they need to feel better about themselves saying they enjoy casual sex. When in reality it was never their first intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:57 AM
3

Give up on finding a partner at that point. It shows women aren’t worth it unless you put them above you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:38 PM
3

At that point, might as well just give up on finding a partner. Unless you’re desperate for female attention
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:37 PM
3

It’s definitely by chance. I look at some guys who has good quality gfs but I doubt they’ll meet another one had they not met them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:42 PM
3

Do you have any tips on how to find these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:18 PM
5

Exception doesn’t change the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:14 PM
8

So he should just pay a prostitute to so he can be seen as normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:13 PM
4

They aren’t worried about gfs. Their time has passed. Doesn’t mean they want an experience women had gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 03:13 PM
10

It’s weird to a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:51 PM
9

Everyone has a different ideal of what a romantic relationship would be. Some guys just don’t see it nor could develop it with experienced non pure women. And some guys can but they could also just be desperate for female attention so they let all the negative traits of the women bypass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:50 PM
0

I honestly relate drugs and alcohol with the hoe culture so I’m not comfortable with it at all. Even if it’s occasionally. I’m actually surprised that I’m seeing a few women here that are also against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:57 AM
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I don’t think it’s just experience. They just want what other women want. A male model virgin will still get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:36 AM

He will still have more women willing to be with him than a man wanting a single mother. A lot of guys don’t want single mothers but as they get older, that becomes more of their options. That’s why single mothers are more demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:43 PM

That’s really on the women though. Being a single dad will help him attract women as it shows he had another woman gave him a child. Same as having a wedding ring as that shows another woman wanted him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:15 PM
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They want guys with options/what other women wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:10 PM
7

That’s what happens if you chase men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:10 PM
2

I would not be okay dating when I’m in my 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:50 PM
1

I never said all but it shows almost half are getting divorced. And how many of these married women are settling after their college years? Many have chosen bad partners on top of racking up their bodycount before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:15 AM
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My mistake, I read a different stat. Still though, that’s 81% that HAD married. Which almost half gets divorced. Plus marriage rate has been declining from what I’ve read. Again majority of people don’t get their ideal relationship. A lot of people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:58 AM
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Well unless you want to change your answer, you did say the vast majority. Also marriage isn’t really a good evidence as only 50% of population get married. So majority of people will not get the ideal perfect romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:02 AM
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Your relationships will be more transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:21 AM
6

I don’t think that’s a good answer as a plenty of marriages ends in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:18 AM
2

We have. But blackpill content is supposed to be banned here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:32 PM

Many girls are definitely hooking up. I didn’t say they weren’t. But majority of them did not choose that life. The common pattern started with them getting pumped and dumped. Also it’s a cope and agenda that they’ll push to encourage more women to sleep around. You brought up “my friends sleep around” to defend your argument. I’m sure you’re hoping and encouraging more women would do the same to actively defend your point. Majority of teenage girls who are virgins do not want to participate in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:33 PM

You’re such a rare scenario(if what you say is true) that it doesn’t get talked often. So yes it’s either you’re lying to protect your ego or just an exception to the rule. There are definitely hoes and women who like sleeping around. But they aren’t the norm that women here are claiming. Majority of women in “hoe phases” were forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:20 PM

I’m not disagreeing that some of these women probably like the hookup culture. But I don’t believe they chose that life. They were forced into it by men. If you could ask teen girls before they got used by other boys, majority of them did not want to participate in any hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:17 PM

The pattern I’ve recognize is women find any copes to protect their egos. I’m applying the same pattern in this situation as well. They’ve made the mistakes of getting pumped and dumped but don’t want to own up to it. Instead, they’ll say they’ve “chose” to hook up with that guy and they’ve “chose” to be part of the hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:59 PM
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Because they didn’t mention this until this post. Honestly if this was true, they can use this argument to help them win other debates but have never mentioned it. Like I said, I think they’re just rewording the scenario of some loser who wants them back. Because that’s actually what I’ve seen happen irl. And yes I have had females tell me their exs want them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:14 PM
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That rarely happens. I think women here are just lying. Because this is something new and I never seen a women admit they wanted to pump and dump a man. My guess is some loser wants them back because he can’t get another girl and they’re just rewording scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:06 PM
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We don’t truly know that. A lot of women find ways to cope with their scenarios. I don’t think young girls grow up wanting to have sex with a bunch of men. It usually started from guys pumping and dumping them. Now some girls are just born to be hoes but majority of women started because they were used.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:07 AM
0

I’m not disagreeing with you. It just shows how lonely and depressed a lot of men will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:56 AM
3

I believe redpill is an agenda too. Just depends on what percentage of men are redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:16 AM
8

Okay so? Women use it to push their agenda that fat women can be attractive. I would’ve said the same thing for “bbw” but I’ve rarely heard a woman ever say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:08 AM
0

Seems like men have adapted. It’s normalize to date hoes nowadays. Assuming what you say is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:04 AM
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“Plus size” is the word he’s looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:58 AM
2

I think they do want fwb but that’s just part of their hoe phase after getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:58 AM

Some guys probably do know but there’s also a risk of being lead on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:10 PM
7

“Situationship”…that tells you something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:00 PM
0

After she is ready to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:24 PM
2

To summarize: We humans are a competitive species and are desperate to be first place compared to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:23 PM
8

I don’t think men really empathize women. Women don’t find the average man attractive so it’s not going to solve their loneliness problem because you want to be around them. And you’re usually usually doing it to form a romantic relationship let’s be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:15 PM
3

You won’t fall for them but you’ll always fantasize them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:48 PM
23

Or you’re just not attractive enough so you had to provide to get some fake attention. This is just the reality for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:05 PM
7

Most people are selfish. The one who are successful can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:40 AM
7

That’s you. Everyone is different. You can say the same for women with that logic. They hate men because they can’t get romance from the guys they want. Only difference is women can cope with it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:08 AM
4

But did you find him physically attractive? Was he unique looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:52 PM
9

But if they had one, they wouldn’t hate women. Most incels just hate themselves because they aren’t attractive enough to have a woman who hasn’t been ran through desiring them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:41 PM
5

Sure. I’m asking if they should identify as one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:19 PM
9

So guys who are incels but not hating women shouldn’t call themselves incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:59 PM
8

All of them see it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 10:46 PM
1

I’ve literally said they’ve ascended so no it doesn’t happen. What I meant was them remaining on incel forums and complaining. It doesn’t happen unless they’ve never left their room and never revealed themselves. Of course I’m put off by women with shit personalities. They’re literally everywhere. But the point is these attractive guys still get women simping for them just like desperate men simping for women with terrible personality/pasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:32 PM
1

Sometimes a guy they find attractive didn’t look at their direction. So they developed attraction for them. (This would support the redpill). Honestly a lot of guys in that age range(early high school) are shy or still wanting Stacies or talking about Stacies. So it’s unlikely they’re getting that much attention unless it’s from older men which is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:23 PM
3

You obviously don’t know women. Maybe you’ve only experienced all the high bodycount ones. It would make sense as those women have lost their inability to pair bonds. But the inexperienced women go through the same feelings as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:01 PM
2

PSL is a rating scale in the looksmax community. High psl is a guy who is extremely attractive. Could be a model if he wants depending on height. Actually some guys who were attractive who thought they were incels revealed their face. Girls were simping for them. Some even dated. And yeah you shouldn’t pursue a woman that doesn’t appreciate you. But that’s pretty much almost all women for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:53 PM
7

Not everyone is in your position. Having a bunch of partners usually links with inability to pair bonds. You just found a guy that is willing to deal with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:11 PM
11

Yet you had to date multiple men. Might be a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:32 PM
13

Because majority of men are invisible to you. Also the average Becky can looksmax and she will be appealing to most men. The average man cannot do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:20 PM
38

Why would they want a gf if they hate women???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:18 PM
1

There’s no perks for putting in effort though. You’re just another beta providing in some way for a woman who’ve never wanted you in the first place. This is pretty much majority of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:17 PM
3

Maybe be specific then. However his further comments stated that they don’t want those guys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:13 PM
8

They go through the same feeling as men….butterflies in stomach, constantly daydreaming, and of course getting heartbroken. You have no idea how women treat guys they like. I don’t think many guys do either. They’ve never experienced it or witnessed it. It’s probably what separates red and blackpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:07 PM
5

I’ve never seen good looking guys(high psl) except for guys who are extremely short on incel servers complaining. It’s unlikely they have nothing to offer. Their looks pretty much carry their confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:03 PM
25

What do you mean by that? They do want a man. They have crushes and fantasize a guy just like how men fantasize about that average Becky. The difference is women feel that way towards a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:52 PM
4

He still has to put effort into women who could care less about him. If he was good looking, he wouldn’t struggle. Probably wouldn’t have to try either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:45 PM
35

They actually do appreciate a man if they want the man. However they could care less what a guy does if they don’t want him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:42 PM
48

The guys who recognize this doesn’t try. And they’re called “incels”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:41 PM
54

Men want a girlfriend that desires them to experience romantic love. Government-mandated spouse will not solve that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:52 AM
6

The ones who don’t are called “incels”…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:50 AM
2

Not really. Most of the time, for boys, it’s for ego. Desperately trying to lose it to prove they are worthy of getting laid. I think the rise of pornography might have something to do with it. From my experience, most girls didn’t want to lose it but were manipulated by guys. But the ones that did, I believed they were influenced by older women who encourage women to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:37 AM
4

Women are lonely because the average man is invisible/unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:43 PM
2

People don’t like looking at the context as it goes against their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:10 PM
1

Nah. Just the men you want that does. Makes sense that you are unaware as other men are invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:27 PM
-1

The point is it’s preferred and what men want for relationship material. But of course, women do get pumped and dumped as they choose the guys that do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:50 PM
1

It’s all of them. There’s always a beta male readily available to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:16 AM
-2

Says a lot about the men they choose
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:00 AM
-4

Because she was with you when she was in her prime. It’s like taking a girls virginity. You think they’ll leave her once they take her virginity? All because she isn’t a virgin anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:56 AM
2

I thought so too. Was confused as why this was asked. Probably ignorance and need to find something to attack
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:19 AM
-5

They want a woman at her prime but doesn’t mean they will leave them when she gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:58 AM
1

Are you saying these women can’t find a man no matter how much they lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:54 AM
2

Well they can. But not with guys they wanted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:53 AM
3

Yeah I know. But the way the redpill worded it makes others believe they won’t find anyone. It’s so normalize to date a hoe now, you’ll be considered the weird one to not. Seems like feminism are winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:03 AM
1

But they are still able to find a man. And not all women are freaking out because they can’t find a high value man. They’ll happily choose the beta male that will support them. There’s countless examples of these women on this sub. Honesty from my experience, I’ve never seen irl post wall women who’ve chosen to stay single for life. Eventually they’ll just get desperate and need to find someone that will support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:07 PM
2

This is women’s choice to stay single. They can find a beta male to support them if they decide to give one of their orbiters a chance. But many choose to stay single just like men choosing to stay single than to date a high bodycount woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:46 PM
2

The guy might be low value but the women have claimed they loved him. You think they’re lying or just settling for social construct of having a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:33 PM
3

It’s not the same attraction as women wanting a hot guy. I’d rather have a woman want me instead of hundreds of women wanting me for my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:28 PM
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They claim they do but I think it’s bs. Probably just a social construct to not die alone even if you don’t truly desire that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:15 PM
1

Don’t feel bad. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:08 PM
8

It’s just redpillers fantasy that these women won’t find a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:53 PM
3

Normal guys. Yes you can make up for the women who’ve already racked up their bodycounts. Obviously I’ve seen unattractive guys with attractive women. But not really the same romantic experience attractive guys receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:49 PM
8

A desirable guy is who a woman finds physically attractive. Most guys aren’t desirable even with his resource
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:39 PM
1

A lot of men are going to be alone and miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:36 PM
1

Yeah it just so happens certain men experience it first while others get settled
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:34 PM
21

You won’t be more desirable. You just have more resources to pay. The guys who are desirable are the ones women simp for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:18 PM
1

A lot of men are going to be alone. You’ve won.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:02 PM
2

You wouldn’t get it because it’s not really your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:25 PM
1

That’s sounds like her problem. Should’ve develop a skill to close her legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:24 PM
1

Yes you’ve won
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:03 PM
0

As long as she’s hot? Isn’t true. What most men care about is a woman that supports him and gave him her youth. Those are just basic requirements, the rest just is just bonuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:37 PM
0

A lot of men are going to be alone it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:33 PM

I’m currently working hard on myself but the success rate of finding a partner I’d like is slim to none. Which makes it even harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:44 AM
-1

A lot of men are going to be alone it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:38 AM
1

“Men”. No, I believe these are just guys you choose that has options. You’re basically putting all men into one category.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:17 AM
-1

But what if what they’re doing is non beneficial and degrading themselves? You’ll still tell them to “have fun”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:16 AM
1

They’re good to be around but not desired as attractive guys. The romantic relationships they get are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:31 AM
0

Some guys want to be desired, not be the second picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:30 AM
2

Perhaps the guys you choose doesn’t take you seriously. And that percentage of guys increase once you rack up your bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:24 AM
-1

So you encourage women to sleep around?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:22 AM
3

Seems like they don’t care enough to find out. From what I’ve noticed, women bash out all the men who admit it online, but little do they know, a lot of the guys who hookup with them irl or trying to form a relationship has had the same views.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:33 PM
3

A lot of guys have the fuckboy tendency. They talk about women and sexualize them with their friend group. I know because I actually do hang out and socialize with friends. They also dm lots of girls on snapchat and Instagram. Now sure it’s not all women. But these women still choose to hangout in those environments with their hoe friends. Im not sure if women are blind or they just have a different view on dating and think hookup is supposed to be normalized into finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:21 PM
1

I’m sure there are different reasons from different women. But they all are definitely ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:30 PM
1

It seems obvious. I’ve been wondering this whole time why they couldn’t tell. Or perhaps they do know but choose to be ignorant. Looks like it’s easier to manipulate women because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:46 PM
1

Many of my friends I hang out with talk shit about women. They have double digit bodycount. They assume I have the same view but I just keep quiet. What I’ve noticed is their goal is to get sex, no matter what it takes. Incels aren’t simps. Otherwise they wouldn’t mind using the same tactics others use to get sex. Mostly, incels are just guys that want to be desired by women. As that’s why most are obsessed with their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:13 PM
3

They’re ignorant or don’t feel the need to understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:05 PM
1

They’ll hate high bodycount regardless of jealousy or not. I think you mean incels would love a virgin/low bc woman. But the guys who get sex just see women as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:01 PM
0

Maybe to you. I don’t see any difference after a certain amount of bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:39 AM
4

Maybe that’s how guys feel about women who casually sleeps around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:31 AM
5

Maybe the sex isn’t worth it to the guys if they’re not feeling desired. Otherwise, it’s a lot easier to pay for a prostitute instead of doing all that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:23 AM
6

Some guys want to feel desired. Not do their mating dance to attract women that never thought about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:51 AM
-3

I’ll find other ways to have my offsprings. Doesn’t mean I’m going to marry a hoe. A lot of red pillers are fine betabuxxing young women who are freshly 18. Not so much for the older women. Btw why do you think all guys here are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:38 AM
1

I never said they’re going to find a virgin. They’re not marrying these modern women and would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:22 AM
9

What do you mean they can’t participate in it? Like they aren’t physically attractive enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:16 AM
2

How do you feel about marrying those women? And I don’t think they’re going to marry them if they don’t like them. Unless they’re in desperate need for a partner. Which won’t end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:14 AM

Nope. The common pattern is many women could find a partner if they lowered their standards and/or choose certain men instead of the guys with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:23 PM

Exception doesn’t change rules
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:09 PM

I can’t speak for older guys, but it’s pretty hard for most young men nowadays. There was a study that show 70% of young men are single or didn’t have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:41 AM

It has little to do with looks. There are decent looking 30yo+ women but men value women giving them their youth. Like I said, the ideal romantic relationship is to meet each other when young, but not many men get that chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:05 AM

Are you saying he does find 33yo women attractive but is denying it? It could be a revenge fantasy. But either ways revenge or not, older women aren’t attractive for relationship material for most guys. The ideal relationship would be to find someone when both are young, however most guys don’t seem to get that chance. Also, me personally, I’d probably give up on dating if I’m in my 30s and didn’t find anyone. I don’t think young women are able to love older men, it’s just transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:45 AM

They ignore contexts that doesn’t support their agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:01 AM

The redditor doesn’t think he deserves a younger women, he just doesn’t find older women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:59 AM

There wouldn’t be too many single 30/40yos if that was true. Sounds like they’re horrible at picking partners or just couldn’t justify lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:53 AM
6

Did these 30/40yo give those men a chance when they were in their prime? Or were they chasing certain men that left them to be degraded?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:07 AM
2

Most men are unattractive to women. Can’t blame them for not finding the average man appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:59 AM
2

I see. Apologies for my assumption. I think men just think as long as they hook up, they’re seen as high value. Which I don’t believe is the case unless you’re hooking up with virgins but that’s not really happening. A high value man to me is a guy who has options but chooses to not to participate in casual sex and/or a guy that has women simping and putting effort into him. It’s someone who women(typically high value women) want to have a romantic relationship with and not using him for transac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:20 PM
1

True most men are simps and put women above them and lack self respect. (I think you’re talking about yourself.) However the ones who have self respect wouldn’t want to be with these type of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:25 PM
3

High value isn’t looks alone. Otherwise many pornstars or OF girls would be considered high value. What’s UMC?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:09 PM
3

You think women here are high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:52 PM
3

If a woman is choosing a guy that have slept around, she isn’t high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:00 PM
1

Yeah I agree. Still these women aren’t simping for the guys they find attractive. They still expect him to make the first move and look for other traits. And those guys are still above average looking. Women are attracted to different types of attractive men. The guys I mention will definitely succeed in hooking up and facing less rejections compared to average men. Maybe women might not think about them because they believe they have no chance. But had these guys made a move, their perspective …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:34 AM
1

I consider my standards to be pretty high compared to most men. I’m not overestimating. I live in a college campus and many women there are as attractive as some models. They just don’t want to pursue it. They’re not average but I can find one that looks like them everyday. Jacob Elordi is 6’5 with an attractive face. He’s considered chad. Guys like those are rare. So is Henry. Adriana Lima is definitely rare but obviously of course she’s up there with the top tier models. However plenty of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:41 PM
2

They are 20% though? They’re really not that rare, I think unattractive men are dramatic about how few chads there are because they don’t want to feel worse than they already do, I see plenty of them. Your definition of chad probably differs from others. I’ve just told you that chad is supposed to be guys that women simp for. Not just one woman but many. And that’s not 20%. 20% is mostly high tier normie men. They aren’t getting simped on and have to put in effort. Having high status will make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:43 PM
3

Chads are guys that have attractive face(usally good eyes and attractive jawlines) and are mostly tall. These men are rare compared to Stacies and are less than 20%. What makes chads stand out is they get simped on unlike majority of men. Now if you’re talking about just being attractive enough for relationship material than yeah 20% is probably the right number for men(but they aren’t chad). Women however, it’s a lot higher as they have benefits from looksmaxxing/glowup. Only way to tell if wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:03 PM
5

Not really a myth. Perhaps your standards is low. Chads are attractive guys that women simp for. Being tall with a normie face isn’t chad. More women can also looksmax and become attractive compared to men. When looking at male models, I rarely see guys that looks like them irl. But when it comes to women, I’ve seen women that are just attractive or even mog female models.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:08 PM
4

So to men: the desirable Stacy that mogged girls like me and turned you down isn't suffering! She is either already engaged to some Chad or is now having her pick of younger Chads and guys her Chads are rare compared to Stacies. So not all Stacies ended up with chads. And if you’re a virgin and men are turning you down for it, they probably think you’re hard to get or they just want a partner who is sex hobbyists(I don’t believe these guys are wanting to be husband material).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:28 AM
1

What makes a man desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:52 PM
1

Plain janes are rare. I know what you mean by them but I don’t see them as much and they don’t really make themselves available. Doesn’t seem like they want to be approached anyways. And yeah that’s how some guys(maybe most) will view thots. At least from my experience of talking to men. If she’s been with multiple guys, it would be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:08 PM
1

Thots to some men meaning she has multiple partners/bodies. Doesn’t mean she casually hooks up. And what is a plain Jane? Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:26 PM
1

There are men who doesn’t chase thots however still have a hard time finding a woman because many women are thots/have been thots. These are the same guys you’ll call incels all because he doesn’t want to be with a thot. And you women start having mental breakdowns once they start revealing their requirements about what type of women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:39 AM
0

I don’t believe women are “stuck up bitches”. I just have a hard time believing they find the average men attractive. In order for these men to get sex, they need to provide. And the 70%, what’s the percentage of them that paid for hookers or went for a woman that easily sleeps with a bunch of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:48 PM
1

70% of young men get laid, and most men have a relationship, so women are so delusional….that most men are able to fuck them? Where did you get this number? How can you tell if the men have paid in some way and if the woman actually wanted them? Are the women they’re sleeping with exclusive to them or are just easy because the women sleep with a bunch of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:56 PM
1

My point still stands. It’s not easy to be attractive as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:27 AM
1

I think it still applies when talking about turnarounds. I’m just going by what I see in public especially college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:00 PM
2

They can wear makeup and go to the gym. And in rare cases if needed, get a few surgeries. I’m not saying true femcels doesn’t exist, but many women who claim to be femcels haven’t truly looksmaxxed. I can’t say say the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:44 PM
1

I’ve seen the opposite. More femcels have became attractive compared to men becoming successful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:29 PM
2

My theory is that some of these women developed a narcissism attitude after getting pumped and dumped. So her going for the top men can show she did better and make her ex boyfriends jealous.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:35 PM
1

I think they meant they’d want to impregnate their partner and they find it attractive. Doesn’t mean they want to be with these pregnant women
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:28 PM
1

I was like 12-13 when they first appeared.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:05 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 05:42 AM
1

Are you Asian yourself?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 05:06 AM
1

It just means who’s physically attractive. I also realized a lot of these guys got plastic surgery. Are women really finding these guys attractive?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 04:46 AM
1

Is wearing makeup the new trend for men? Id possibly could mog him if I did the same
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 04:38 AM
-1

Enid was the most attractive imo. Ngl I also thought Tara was attractive too when she first appeared.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 04:06 AM
3

Brutal. It’s over
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 04:02 AM
1

I wanted a high school relationship. But only a small lucky percentage achieved it
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:23 AM
1

I haven’t found the right woman. But I’m getting old so that ship has probably sailed. A relationship doesn’t have to be sexual. And they could last if it was exclusive relationship. Most aren’t from what I’ve seen. I just think most people don’t have the lifestyle to have a relationship like that.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:02 AM
1

Could you at least looksmax?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:39 AM
1

A good relationship will last. But most people will never be in that position. You have the most chance if she finds you attractive
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:07 AM
1

Yeah sure dm
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:42 AM
1

How old are you? And when did this happen?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:41 AM
1

Yeah I agree. But a Chad who chooses to be a virgin is a different story
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:41 AM
1

If it’s preventing him from looksmaxxing then yeah he will struggle. But if he’s attractive already, he’ll get attention
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:39 PM
2

I think you just find them attractive. Perhaps yellow fever fetish. I’ve yet to see passport bro with a Asian stacy
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:36 PM
1

I’m guessing you like sharing bodies and don’t value romantic relationships
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:33 PM
2

It’s a red flag for women who have bodies because it doesn’t benefit them
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 10:31 PM
4

Then what was the point of your comment?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:50 PM
0

You can still put effort as a ugly/short guy and get some results for casual sex. But I can’t say the same for finding a romantic relationship where she isn’t settling.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:41 PM
5

It should. But aren’t women turned off if a man has no sexual access?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:39 PM
2

Why would he expect that? Does he thinks he’s attractive enough for that to happen?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:38 PM
1

Is that why guys have rated you?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:19 PM
2

Actually it’s probably easier to have casual sex than be in a genuine desired relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:42 PM
10

The best cope is gaining wealth and status. At least you’ll be someone valuable and not a nobody
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:39 PM
13

“Why does bodycount matter?”
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 07:36 PM
-1

What?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:42 PM
2

He’s 5’7? I thought he was 5’9
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:37 PM
11

Probably stacysexual and wanted chad treatment. A lot of normies here also claim to be incels.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:28 PM
1

Everyone will bitch about something that detriments them. Just like women bitching about not getting commitment from the guys they want.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:55 PM
1

I didn’t say it was okay and what’s not okay. That’s just way it is.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:47 PM
1

Okay that makes sense. But are you saying women don’t do these things for men they like? Edit:typo
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:44 PM
1

But they aren’t fine
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:35 PM
1

No, Asian women worship white men. So they are capable of loving them. But betabux definitely applies in other areas.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:32 PM
2

(Hint: love is an action, not a feeling.) Wdym by this?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:31 PM
7

“She’s never yours, it’s only your turn” applies if you start dating women who have been with multiple guys.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 04:27 PM
1

For the guys who are 5’9-5’11, yeah. But shorter than that is not delusional.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:13 PM
1

And they’re able to get away with it because of simps.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:09 PM
4

They could’ve just leave him as he was walking away. But decided to pull their phones out
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:21 PM
1

It isn’t genuine if she isn’t happy with her desperate partner
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:54 AM
2

34% sexless as in virgins or not having sex?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:51 AM
1

Even then there’s still a chance for him to have LTR commitment.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:49 AM
3

There are good women out there but it’s unlikely you’ll be the lucky man to be chosen for one
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:18 AM
2

I hate hoes who normalize being a hoe and badly influencing younger girls.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:17 AM
4

It says he’s 6’2 on google so he’s most likely 6ft. Still a good height.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:14 AM
4

I’m speaking in general for men who do. I just think we attack women more for it than we do to simps.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:09 AM
1

Tbh if she finds you attractive(doesn’t have to be the stereotypical chad), you still have a chance to continue LTR with her. Just depends on the women’s personality. Attractive guys have options, but maybe they just choose the wrong women so you hear stories of them not lasting.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:05 AM
5

This depends on what you want from a woman. I’d rather a woman like me for my looks than for my height. Height just seems like a status for them to show off. Face is when they genuinely find you attractive as long as you don’t look like a true manlet.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:02 AM
5

You can’t really hate women for that. Simps caused this
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 02:00 AM
3

I don’t think celebrities would have good pair bondings either
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:58 AM
8

Nah they wouldn’t leave chad if he commited to her before she was pumped and dump. Maybe only after she racks up bodies, she will leave chad as she has the inability to pair bonds.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:56 AM
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My ideal casual sex is unrealistic. Not even chads can have it. The current way of getting casual sex is disgusting and not all men want to participate. Why would I want to fuck/associate with hoes who let a bunch of men fuck them?
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:20 AM
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