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SilentFroggy/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 06:52 PM
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These type of Asian women would choose a chopped average height white man over a tall chang. It’s more about status and how the women view themselves. Average looking Asian women want to be white so they choose any white man to make up for it.
/r/BlackPillScience25/07/25 10:05 AM
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Obviously if a woman is a slut, she wouldn’t care. The question could’ve been categorized to a woman with little to no sexual history and answers might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:46 AM
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Well if she doesn’t have a horrible past then that’s the best way to know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:53 AM
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Seems like you’ve caught on. Hopefully you understand that now that liz didn’t possess the personality that was considered attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:27 AM
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She must’ve had a horrible personality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:06 PM
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Well sure that’s a bonus
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:48 PM
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Trying hard on what? I just told you what I would find attractive romantically. Do you not want to believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:03 PM
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Or you just don’t know what men want. Me personally, I’d fall in love with a girl next door type that isn’t a bimbo ig model that has thousands of followers getting endless attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:57 PM
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We’d take her and then cheat on her. She’s not that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:46 PM
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If you claim you’re attracted to him, I can’t tell you what you’re attracted to or not. But I assume you made it easy for him compared to other men who had to put in effort. And I didn’t say this was every relationship, just the ones I’ve seen. Also again, it wasn’t an insult. I would’ve said much worse things if I wanted to intentionally make you feel bad. Not sure if you think men are lying when they say they don’t want women that’s been experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:43 PM
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Still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:29 PM
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That could’ve been two different groups of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:38 PM
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Wasn’t an insult. When I was speaking of quality of relationships in my original point, that was part of it. An average man is putting in effort for something that has mileage while another man got it as ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:32 PM
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Crazy how there are women that believe their looks is enough to make any guy fall in love with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:30 PM
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You having many experience is part of the quality of the relationship that men find unappealing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:24 PM
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I guess you understand men more than men understand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:05 PM
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If you’re asking wether average men are in a desirable relationship compared to attractive men, that would be up to the men to decide what’s a healthy relationship, not you. In general, I’m sure men would want the experience of what the attractive men receives as there would be a difference on effort and results based on how attractive they are. As for women, I don’t think her beauty is enough on her part to find a relationship for what she desires. But that just depends on what women find desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:36 PM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:24 PM
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My original reply above was wether those non attractive men were receiving the same attraction or not compared to attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:58 PM
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There is a correlation of attractive men having it easier than non attractive men. If there’s no difference in desirability, there shouldn’t be a difference in difficulty compared to the levels of physical attractiveness. Long term relationships doesn’t prove anything when many are settling and getting whatever they can get which a lot of men brings up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:41 PM
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Maybe what you see is a “solid” relationship but would be different in other mens view. I wouldn’t say non attractive men can’t get a decent relationship, but like I said above, they still have to work for it but the scenario of being desired is not comparable to attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:20 PM
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Difficult to perform a study where it isn’t guaranteed to get real honest answers. Just look at how attractive men aren’t struggling compared to non attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:14 PM
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To sum it up, no horrible past and is peaceful to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:04 PM
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If there’s no studies, the next thing I’d go for is anecdotes. I don’t believe it’s every relationship but haven’t seen one where the non attractive guy is desired by a good quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:48 PM
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I wouldn’t call it getting the same result either. You’d want her to be attracted to you, not settle for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:48 AM
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Again, you work for your income and be smart about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:10 PM
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If someone makes 100k a year, they can afford it. And not everyone lives an expensive lifestyle. There are smart ways to be financially comfortable while still having children. Obviously if it’s too much for them, they can just die alone while being wiped away from the gene pool. (Maybe a good thing)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:36 PM
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Because the average man doesn’t work for it or acknowledge that this is an option. Some men don’t want kids either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:33 PM
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Let me be more specific, the AVERAGE MAN GENETICALLY. Yes it’s expensive, that should’ve been acknowledged. That’s why I said he needs to work for it and it is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:08 PM
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If he works for it then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:29 PM
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Only the best genetics will be selected(assuming you do get selected do donate). And those guys don’t necessarily need to donate their sperm when women want to date and breed with them anyways. The best option for the average man is the surrogate route if he wants offsprings. Preferably using donor eggs with genes that will improve his bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:10 PM
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No gym for bone structure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:19 AM
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My mistake. I was specifically looking at your comment. Yes practicing monogamy would allow most men to be happy. This would be the logical solution for humans in general to be satisfied(well at least for men). Polygamy on the other hand would suggest that the disposable men be wiped out of the gene pool and I do not believe many of those men would be pleased with that scenario. Your original comment says that there was a history of polygamy which mentions that most people were happy. I’m guessi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:02 AM
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Do you believe that biological perspective should be practiced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:34 PM
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The topic is polygamy, no polyandry. But if polyandry is practiced, how common is it for modern men to happily participate in those relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:34 PM
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I agree that op gave no argument. But I gave an argument on why monogamy is a better solution. However that depends if you want less suffering in this world or more suffering where it benefits only a certain group of people(specifically men in this scenario).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:57 PM
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So you believe that’s the solution for society to continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:39 PM
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Unless there’s more women than men, how does polygamy make everyone happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:33 PM
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Men wanting to be polygamous is a want. It’s not good for society in general since it leaves other men suffering and dying alone. Monogamous is still a better solution to ensure every man gets equal opportunity with finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:30 PM
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It just means working less and getting by with minimum effort. The woman I’m debating thinks men can magically brainwash themselves to find joy in helping out a community where he receives no valuable benefits for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:31 AM
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That’s not related. It’s important our offsprings continue so we don’t get wiped away from the gene pool. We biologically desire to breed with as many females as possible. As for being a father, that’s up the man’s choice. Not all men choose to be fathers but sadly many of those men also get selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:08 AM
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Haven’t really given up, but it does feel like a high risk low reward situation when you’re trying. Especially as you get older and finding that decent woman quickly fades. I think some guys do whatever they can to get some kind of attention from any women they can land on, while some men give up because the women they do eventually land on is not the ones they truly desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:29 AM
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What’s weird?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:18 AM
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I’m curious, provide the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:02 PM
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If those science studies suggest men are capable of being happy alone, you wouldn’t see many men checking out of society after being rejected. Some men can cope, some can’t, some still believe their “hard-work” guarantees them that reward. Men do have awareness and understand their situation therefor conclude what’s best for themselves. When you withdraw from society, you will not be the cuck that help contribute to society so that other men can have their offsprings while you are wiped away fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:40 PM
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The argument is men do not want to be a cuck. The logical solution is to not be a slave towards society where other men benefits. Your female brain has no ability to process that information or have any understanding of why men feel that way. It’s why it’s so easy for you to give such advice as finding “meanings of life to benefit society” while men understand what I mean with this situations. You’re just failing to acknowledge what mens primary goals are but I don’t blame you. Men and women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:17 PM
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I’m not neet. But I don’t shame the guys that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:56 PM
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“I’m promiscuous, men still want me” “I’m promiscuous, and I’ve always been like that” “I’m old and men still want me.” “You’re insecure for caring about bodycount” “All we want is respect” “I’m happy alone” Yes women are just as bitter. But they’re the rational gender is all I can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:55 PM
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Because they’re living their life instead of seeking validation/desperately proving to men for what they believe is right. This is what I conclude with the women in this sub. As for men, you know why most of us are here and turning redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:44 PM
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I don’t see how happy people would be here for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:39 PM
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If you want my opinion, I truly believe that women are the more rational gender and this sub proves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:35 PM
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It’s odd how many “happy” women are on this sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:04 PM
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I consider us worshiping ourself and pussy is the breeding tool
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:59 PM
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If men aren't working what are their options? Like just be homeless? Move into the woods and live off the land? Be lucky enough to have parents or friends who will take you in and take care of you? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:57 PM
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I wish this was true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:58 PM
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18yos can be taken advantage by other 18yos too. Women who are traumatized from past relationships were not only from older men. I don’t know if there are any statistics to this but I do see more women having relationship trauma are from other teen boys their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:04 PM
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I was just telling them what they wanted to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:35 PM
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It’s cuckoldry. Men do not want to be used while other men breed. I don’t believe the female brain has the capability of understanding that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:33 PM
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because it makes people feel like they're needed. Removing something that provides some purpose, when they're already feeling like they have none, is neither logical nor healthy. I do understand why some men would recede like this when they feel like they have no purpose, but it's illogical and unhealthy to do so Men do not want to be used if there’s no reward they seek. I say this again, that is not being illogical. No wife, no family, no offsprings, you are cucking yourself by contributing. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:02 AM
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Well according to women here, men should still work and seek other meanings of life instead of our main biological purpose. Basically work and contribute to society while other men breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:13 AM
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It's funny you say that considering this is part of the original comment that you replied to where I explained how it's illogical to make a man's primary life purpose in life to get a wife and have kids simply because they're biologically wired to do so, and to stop working if they're not getting those things: Again, it’s not illogical if that’s the primary goal. Changing it is being rational as you’re convincing or forcing yourself on secondary objectives. Not everyone can cope or brainwash the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:08 AM
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I don’t have time to debate all this wether you think it’s logical or not. There’s mens wants and women wants which leads to nowhere. I will say that there is a main goal and how you achieve/journey through it is from logical and rational thinking. Also yes I’ve considered ivf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:05 AM
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It’s flawed because you think that and probably the type of women you go for. Promiscuity is harmful for the rest including women and it’s why we will continue to shame
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:12 PM
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I just stated the reasoning of it hurting mens dating pool and giving bad images to younger generations of women. They should be shamed wether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:06 PM
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Nope, men’s main biological purpose is to breed and continue their blood. If society prevents this from happening for him and wants him to support society with other mens offspring, it’s not illogical to check out from society if he can’t fulfill his goal. Looking for other purposes is rationalization and just pure shameful to oneself if you’re getting breed out. I don’t believe women can fully understand this situation. It’s why we can never be comparable to each other. Men do not want to raise…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:03 PM
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If it’s about women expressing promiscuity and looking for hoe acceptance, then yes it would hurt men. This would lead to more women being unintentionally promiscuous and lowering the dating pool for men creating more scarce and competition. They are indeed hurting men(and women). Nothing is wrong with the posts shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 PM
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Yes it is. It’s creating more scarce for men to find a decent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:07 PM
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Sure a man can possibly find something he enjoys outside of his main purpose. But that is part of rational thing to do(which is mostly what women are believed to be). It’s really up to the man on what he wants to do with his life. I myself am not a NEET(but I think it’s because I still cope with being able to find a desirable partner) but I don’t look down on guys who choose to be NEETs. Their main desire is to have a mate and a family to continue their blood. If there’s no way to achieve that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:05 PM
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Younger inexperienced women could possibly follow those patterns without knowing the consequences and it increases the competition for men that wants a non promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:45 PM
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Not every man possess the personality or wants to develop the personality that attracts these certain women. A lot of guys just want to be themselves. And being yourself while being average looking will not get you far with any women, let alone a woman that meets your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:39 PM
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Time is valuable. It’s better to spend it on yourself than for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:07 PM
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We do. It’s not to contribute to society that doesn’t benefit us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:03 PM
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We can live life for ourselves. But do not want to contribute to society that involves working a stressful 9-5 job. That’s up to men to decide if they want to destroy their bodies for whatever reward they seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:51 PM
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Exactly. So no point in contributing to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:29 PM
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Yes it’s sad but we do not want to be part of the losers that gets left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:26 PM
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Not your statement. I meant having offsprings and mates is what we men biologically desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:19 PM
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Says the same thing about what? The rationalizing gender being more logical? Provide that evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:16 PM
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It’s what we’re biologically wired to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:07 PM
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This article is the closest thing you got
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:05 PM
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An article that doesn’t prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:55 PM
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It’s what men want. And it’s not something you can work towards based on patterns men have recognized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:49 PM
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Women want a man that respects them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:50 PM
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Ah yes, men are lazy pigs that want to come home to be taken care of. Keep on believing your bias ideals. You have no idea nor care what men really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:38 PM
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Yep, expected this kind of response
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:39 PM
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This. Men are the logical gender. No reward, no wife, no offsprings, what is there to work for?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:46 AM
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Women liking sex doesn’t mean they want to have sex with every guy they see. Like I said, you surround yourself with promiscuous women. Whatever reason they’re promiscuous for anyways. Usual older and ran through is my guess. Young inexperienced women aren’t asking chads for hookups, rather they’re getting convinced to do hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:39 AM
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Your experience is with promiscuous women. Even unattractive guys who surround themselves around them will get laid. I speak from experience too as well as similar conversations with friends that were ugly and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:24 AM
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Can say the same for you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:48 AM
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Most women do not want to engage with fwb, especially young inexperienced women. Like I said in my original comment, the GENERAL women is not is not asking you for sex. Ran through hoes exists of course, so maybe you surround yourself around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:57 PM
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Explain the context
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:42 AM
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Sure buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:29 AM
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They are breaking the rules when it comes to casual sex. Stop being denial about it. She didn’t disagree with it when the guy replied about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:26 AM
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Read your ETA. You’re talking about women who are not interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:26 AM
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She was talking about casual sex. Stop changing the topic of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:55 AM
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She’s talking about std and risk for casual sex. And then looks make up for it in the second comment. It’s all just looks. Average looking clean guy isn’t getting as laid compared to dirty chads…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:23 PM
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That was the point of her comment, “casual sex”. Read her first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:12 PM
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You’re just repeating what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:01 PM
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Op post a scenario and ask for our opinions I give opinion You get triggered Don’t know what else to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:08 AM
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I know. I’m was just calling out her bs gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:29 AM
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I wasn’t complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:12 PM
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So looks beats risks of disease
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:38 PM
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Honestly, we choose to be lonely ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:33 PM
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It actually does. Woman in general offer sex to men they want. Getting laid doesn’t mean feeling desired. But feeling desired means getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:23 PM
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A man wants a woman that gives him sex without him paying for it. That’s being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:13 PM
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Off topic to the post, I wasn’t speaking in terms of casual sex. Sure it’s understandable that you don’t care about those men. But even the guys who don’t chase casual sex but desires a certain women, you don’t care about them. Like I said it’s okay, it is what it is. Men don’t care what bops want either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:10 PM
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But you wouldn’t care for men who have standards. Which seems to be the reason many men struggle. That’s okay though, not asking for sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:34 PM
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Those guys were attractive. But women want them for relationships not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:25 PM
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That too. But I meant for more men to realize that women don’t care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:24 PM
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You don’t have to. I just wish more men would realize this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:11 PM
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Your first comments talks about risks and std. Then the guy replied indicating that rules for physically attractive men seems to be broken. Which then you replied it’s important. It can’t just be both because many attractive guys who have bad hygiene/dirt lifestyle will still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:10 PM
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If you are truly a slut and wasn’t manipulated from the start, then no harm is done to you. That said, majority of “sluts” were put in that position by men. Like women who go on a hoe phase after being pumped and dumped. They need to ration their position to protect their egos because they don’t want to be “used/degraded”. I don’t believe sluts enjoy sleeping around, it’s more of coping mechanism. But if you were also like this from the start without someone manipulating/using you then I guess e…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:00 PM
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Men desire sex due to validation. Paying will not fulfill that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:41 PM
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Women don’t care. And it would make you a bigger loser contributing to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:38 PM
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Because you changed the answer from your first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:33 PM
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Never said those women were sleeping around. They’re still scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:54 PM
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Only few women would agree to fwb. And often they are trying to convince the guy to commit or they’re c**ing with a hoe phase. Even chads have to lead women on, he can’t just ask the general women for sex that easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:46 PM
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This is wrong. They are not going to accept him cheating. Either they will try to convince him to commit knowing he has a rotation or they have zero clue he’s seeing other women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:59 AM
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That’s what they end up with in the end. But at that point, men are dealing with scraps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:58 AM
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This whole post is asking the sub if this is okay. So I’m giving a general opinion. Obviously if the man wants to cuck himself, that’s his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:09 AM
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It does count. It’s not the man’s child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:22 PM
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What’s disgusting is the man raising another man’s offspring. Either make it equal for both sides or both parents should be biological to their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:10 AM
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Nothing wrong with it as long as she uses donor eggs as well. Most likely her genetics are bad as well if she’s worried about the outcome of her offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:28 PM
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Social skills apply to non attractive looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:35 AM
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Close with as in friends? Zero. I don’t believe in male/female friendship. But that doesn’t prove any of your points. But if you want use anecdotes, I do witness plenty of young girls at work being cheated on or dumped after dating their bfs for a few months. These guys don’t ask for hookups, they lead with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:24 PM
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Yes I’m sure, it’s rationalizing their current position. Are women going to admit it? No. It destroys their ego to feel used. “No, chad didn’t use me for sex, we agreed to hookup” From my experience and my friends experience who were tall and good looking, men generally have to lead woman on to get sex. Can’t just ask to hookup. Obviously it’s different once she’s been ran through. Which explains why hookup is more common in college years. I still see it today with younger teens. The girls want …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:30 PM
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Women do not want to hook up. They are lead on by men who just wants casual sex. And gen z are having less sex compared to previous generations. Seems like younger women have caught on and men aren’t putting any effort. You’re not as a special as you think if you’re not promiscuous. Women in general do not want to be, they were put in that position by top tier men and need to rationalize their current situation. The reality is men do care but men also want casual sex. That’s why you see many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:45 PM
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Promiscuity isn’t normalize. It’s only because top men have options and they can choose how the playing fields work for most women. Since women are Hypergamous and risk themselves hoping to lock down a high value man. Attractive women only seem to have higher body counts because they are being chased the most and given more opportunities from top men who wants to use their body. The opinions of promiscuous women doesn’t concern you yet you still had to mention exceptions to the rules of them bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:26 PM
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Did I say most 10/10 women have high bodycount? Did I also say ran through women will not get married? I didn’t but they will struggle to lock down a “high value” man that has options. Can’t bring exceptions to the rule to prove a point. You will still see attractive looking woman struggle with dating because the guys they chase only sees them as casual. High value men are more rare than 10/10 women. You can still cope while being married. The opinions of others can still hurt you if you don’t f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:50 PM
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Anyone can find long term partners. It will be harder if you’re chasing guys that have options. Being ran through for a woman, you’re most likely recreational use unless you lower your standards. This isn’t a revenge fantasy. It sounds like the cope is coming from you. Bodycount/purity doesn’t register for women’s desires so maybe that’s why you think that. However, it is important for men who wants a romantic partner that is seen more than a sex object. It’s the truth no matter how much you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:18 PM
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It’s not just about being pretty. A 10/10 woman that’s been ran through will only be recreational to these rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:16 PM
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About what? What men find attractive? They would definitely be honest about that. But men do lie, and it’s not about women’s looks unless it’s incels who have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:52 PM
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Well I don’t ask. I look at results/actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:50 PM
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And there’s a scary amount of men that do put effort into their appearance. It’s scary because they’re still unattractive. They would need to undergo expensive surgery that could be life threatening. If hypothetically, the beauty standard was easy to reach for men, I’d guarantee most guys would be putting more effort than women. But that’s assuming if hypergamy doesn’t increase women’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:46 PM
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Wrong, standards are not lower. It’s just harder for men to achieve those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:37 PM
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Women have never been honest about what they find attractive. A thousand women on a twitter poll is not enough to convince me at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:32 PM
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Yes women settle… And these relationships you see also have hidden contexts you ignore. I’ve never seen short fat guys with a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:12 PM
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They do have a choice. No one is forcing them to pay for hookers/content.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:45 PM
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I’m just saying I dislike men who pay for onlyfans and blame it on their mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:14 PM
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I dislike those “vulnerable men” more than OF women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:56 PM
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No one is trying to make chads look bad. Nor claiming they’re all bad men. We’re saying chads can be whoever they want and still get more success than the average men who puts effort. Attractive men also have options and he is more likely to use women for sex. So if tricking women into sex is misogyny or not is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:34 AM
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Chad uses women for sex. He doesn’t have to show that he’s misogynist or not. And it doesn’t matter if he is, he will still get guaranteed sex compared to the average men who puts in effort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:27 AM
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Younger guys see unattractive men with women all the time without thinking about the contexts. So it takes some a bit longer to catch on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:14 AM
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There are still bluepillers who haven’t learned their lessons yet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:48 AM
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Depends on why she is a slob. Could be depressed. So if she’s willing to change, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:56 PM
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Yeah no shit. Women choose attractive men first over someone that is abusive. But average looking abusive men do well compared to average looking men who shows no abusive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:33 PM
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And it doesn’t matter if some women only get with abusive men. Tough shit. But maybe you’re right that it isn’t equated. Women seem to be attracted to them because that’s who they choose to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:23 PM
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You equated short men with obese women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:39 PM
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If you’re on this sub, you most likely do care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:04 PM
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My point was that’s not the reason why men go for younger women. Those women claim the only reason men go for young women is because they were “rejected by women their own age in the first place”. Implying that they would date women their own age if they weren’t rejected. Do you believe that? Why would you be against AGR for that reason? As long as the guy treats her right and not a fuckboy that’s using her body, there’s nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:58 PM
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Well it’s not just looks. It’s also purity and having little to no mileage that is attractive. Because there are women in their 30s that are good looking but her experiences can still be a turn off. I guess you can say some men will say younger women are physically attractive and hide the fact that it’s also because they’re young and inexperienced. So it’s somewhat another way of justifying it. I meant the coping was from women not men. Wanting to believe men who go for younger women because wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:18 PM
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I think some men say that because it makes them feel less guilty for objectifying women. Looks and purity does matter wether society think it’s creepy or not. Just like women, men can bs too and you can call it out(or look for gotchas) instead of choosing to believe what they say. Also, why do you believe men go for younger women? Because from what I’ve seen, women claim men go for younger women because “they were rejected from women their own age”. Seems like a coping mechanism to deny that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:44 PM
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Perhaps men use that to justify why they find young women attractive. When in reality it’s because she’s more attractive when she’s young with zero miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:40 PM
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But a whore is unattractive. Which means you’re implying that small dicks are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:02 PM
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Because they are in a hoe phase. And it’s more common than you think due to hypergamy. Women also use casual sex hoping to get men to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:10 PM
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Which is not common. Even attractive guys have to lead women on to get sex. Obviously would be different if she’s ran through.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:57 PM
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Not true. Women,(unless she’s rebounding with a hoe phase) would not give sex to a man if she knows that’s all he wants from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:04 PM
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Your past plays a role. If you’ve given sex to other men, men don’t want to be the guy that had to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:59 PM
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No one says non virgin women can’t get married. Because any women can get married if they lower their standards enough. Even an old grandma can find a man to marry. But your anecdotes and rationalization doesn’t mean men in general doesn’t care. 1/3 of young men are struggling to date and not putting any effort. The rest just wants hookups and no desire for LTR. Hence men keep saying “these women are recreational only”. Plenty of young women have been complaining about men only wanting them for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:51 AM
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Men aren’t going to ask you. And they’re not going to tell you they want a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:38 PM
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He probably chose you to be his long term partner because you were a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:19 PM
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Umm okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:53 PM
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You are not 8.5
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:42 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:37 AM
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That’s not attacking. I assume you were unattractive because your comments seem to indicate rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:29 AM
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Men. Why would women give that advice? Edit: actually I’ve seen some women given that advice but other women label them as a “pick me”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:38 PM
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Actually it’s common for guys advice to lie to women to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:30 PM
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Wasn’t attacking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:21 PM
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Men would definitely be obsessed with their looks if they have potential for it. e.g. attractive guys on looksmaxxing forums. But most guys don’t have that potential. And faking your personality for a woman doesn’t seem appealing. We want to be ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:44 PM
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Being attractive looking is impossible for most men unless he gets expensive surgery. And some guys want to be themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:22 PM
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Although looks do matter to us men, we’re not hypergamous. I’d say the average women who takes care of herself will have someone that desires her. Sorry that you fell below the threshold of what’s attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:18 PM
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Tall ugly men using height as advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:31 PM
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I don’t think they believe it’s unattractive. It’s usually the non virgin women who don’t want virgin men because it makes them feel more degrading since bodycount lowers women’s value. Me personally, I don’t think bodycount matters on a man wether he is a virgin or have multiple bodies. Like a woman might say she wants a virgin man but would let it slide if he checked all the right boxes. Can’t say the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:45 PM
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It depends on your definition of what’s attractive. A lot of men don’t want to be used and actually want to be desirable to women just like how they desire beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:37 PM
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Men who take care of themselves look better in their 30s. But most men don’t so they age like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:33 PM
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Should’ve used maxxed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:31 PM
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Men use women for sex. No commitment. I mentioned earlier how women wouldn’t have given their body away if she’s sure the guy isn’t going to commit. Even if the guy is attractive(I used to be too blackpilled and believe they still would).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:56 PM
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I don’t remember how I phrased it but this is what I meant. Having intentional casual sex isn’t a mistake. The mistake was getting used. Casual sex occurred after the mistake. My experience and my friends have all been in this situation and seen how the girls end up afterwards. Which I was surprised to learn how common this is. I just call it a “promiscuous mistake”, don’t take it to seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:45 PM
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Young women and teen girls from my experience. Women aren’t going to admit it in general. There’s reasons why women would go on a hoe phase after getting used by a man. The hoe mindset doesn’t occur in young inexperienced women/girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:30 PM
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If you see it that way. I call it a mistake because many women do regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:08 PM
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In general, women don’t want casual sex in the beginning of their dating lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:58 PM
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In general it does. A woman isn’t giving out her body in the beginning if she knows the guy is using her or if she doesn’t want him. And if she’s cheating, she’s likely already damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:47 PM
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Yeah a hoe phase is common. Happens after getting fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:16 PM
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I answered but seems like you have a hard time understanding. The mistake was not realizing the guy was using her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:10 PM
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Because she wanted commitment. Women aren’t giving out sex if she knows the guy is just using her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:06 PM
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Because in general, women begin their dating lives looking for commitment, not hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:02 PM
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If men not wanting to accept women’s past mistake is an issue, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:54 PM
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There’s no motivation. Just acknowledging because not every man will find a non promiscuous women. Not enough to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:41 PM
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Neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:24 PM
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Sleeping with a bop gives you confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:08 PM
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At this point, you guys use the word “insecurity” so much that I now see it as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:00 PM
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Sounds like every guy here or redpillers in general are lying to us according to these “studies”. Didn’t read btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:58 PM
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I agree with the first point. I was just going into further details as why it’s shamed. And I wasn’t necessarily talking about casual sex. Just bodycount in general. Multiple relationships in a woman can be a turn off to men. I don’t think it necessarily applies the other way around unless the guy was acting on promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:54 PM
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Yeah but a guy isn’t going to feel confident if she slept with multiple men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:51 PM
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I mean yeah, that’s why most women are shamed. I don’t see anything wrong with it. OP was implying that promiscuous women are shamed, and I don’t think that’s necessary true if she’s just promiscuous and not looking for relationship. Also I don’t think men and women see bodycount the same. I believe women do care about a man’s bodycount. But it doesn’t bother her if the guy checks all the right boxes. However a woman could be perfect for a man, but the bodycount will still turn him off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:46 PM
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Heck, there was an upvoted comment I’ve seen in a feminist subreddit of all places that talked about how there was this one dude in college that many inexperienced women went to based on other women’s recommendation, because he was so famously good at bed while being totally respectful and caring Sounds made up. Or at least not telling the whole story. Not surprised if coming from a feminist sub
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:12 PM
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It’s only shamed when a woman that has multiple sexual partners wants a relationship. Otherwise men probably don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:08 PM
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Saving her virginity and making men wait
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:09 PM
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Either got unlucky or you’re not telling the whole story
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:17 PM
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Most guys don’t have close female friends like that. Nor the desire to want female friends unless it was to get into a relationship/sex. At best they’re just acquaintances. So it’s hard to imagine a feeling of something that you never envision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:18 AM
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Ummm okay? My point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:01 PM
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That would be true if you’re known as the town bicycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:43 PM
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Many such cases with women rationalizing their promiscuous mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:30 PM
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Yes if he leads women on. Most women are not giving sex if they know that’s all he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:26 PM
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What does that prove? YOU were the one asking for sex.(assuming if your story is true) Chads can’t ask women for sex, women generally are looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:08 PM
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It’s not hypocritical. Men and women want different things. If women wanted a virgin man then I’m sure men would think twice before losing it. But in fact it’s the opposite, they shame men for being virgins/inexperienced. Also guess what? Men do shame other men for not being able to provide and remaining broke. Those men you mentioned would definitely be called out on. And no I’m not surprised those men are the options you’re dealt with. Like I said, it could be a you problem if those are your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:53 PM
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Men are capable of being LTR. Some just give up and some just push themselves knowing there isn’t enough LTR women out there to go around. Also women don’t care too much about virginity in men. You rarely see women saying they only desire virgins. It doesn’t bother them as much as it bothers men. Men want inexperience and women want a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:43 PM
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Good for men. Men shouldn’t put effort into modern women who aren’t virgins. You’d be a fool to. High risk and low reward. And no, men don’t want casual sex if they have to work for it. Kinda humiliating when attractive guys don’t have to. LTR should be worked for but only if women are LTR material themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:45 PM
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Men aren’t putting effort into LTR because most women aren’t LTR material. The fact that you deal with those guys who only wants sex explains more about you. Most guys don’t have that many bodies but you somehow end up around the men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:10 PM
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If you want more men to be happy, it’s better to have less women being ran through. Most men would rather have a desirable LTR partner than a bunch of promiscuous women that we have to share. And what makes an impact on casual sex is women being hypergamous. Since the top men are able to have an abundance of women, they’re more likely to want to have casual sex with available women. I don’t believe women start off wanting casual sex, they were just placed there by the men they chased. It wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:39 PM
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Slutshaming is because of men looking for long term partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:39 PM
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Prostitutes or got lucky with random women who are in hoe phases. Some might’ve had relationships but got dumped/cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:43 PM
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Again, it’s best to think of the general, not hope for exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:09 PM
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Popularity/status. Can be anything as long as you’re well known. Especially with celebrities. I’m just explaining what status means in redpill. Doesn’t mean I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:52 PM
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No I meant popularity. Although being rich can help with achieving popularity, it doesn’t mean it’s the most important unless you want gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:22 PM
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Popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:40 PM
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I believe going into casual sex is their rebounding phase from being used. But they aren’t going to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:27 PM
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Never said I could prove it. Can’t know because why would women admit they were degraded by other men? Just stating what I believe using pattern recognition of my personal and others experience. Including the discussion of rape amongst other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:43 PM
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That sounds high. But I guess you don’t care about bodycount so fair to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:42 PM
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What was her bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:07 PM
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You can believe what you want. I use whatever pattern I recognize and conclude that promiscuous driven women is a lie and was never their original intention. If you believe most men are turned on by forcing a woman to sex, that’s fine too if that’s what you believe you see. I don’t see it because there seem to be more women getting fuckzoned than men actually acting on force rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:58 PM
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Some guys don’t care about bodycount, so that could apply to them. But plenty of men don’t feel that way. Perhaps you could try to convince he’s special to her, but me personally, I can’t imagine that changing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:35 PM
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I’m giving you an honest answer. You could’ve used another example of men lying. Because yes men do lie too. But fantasizing rape isn’t it. And no I didn’t know what you meant because some women think rape is when a guy manipulates them into giving them consensual sex. I’m sure there are women out there that enjoyed casual sex without ever getting fuckzoned in the first place.(This is me being dishonest because I don’t actually believe that.) But they aren’t the majority. Especially the women on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:28 AM
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Yeah I think so. There’s a reason why many men get sexually frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:01 AM
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Nope. Otherwise men would be complaining about how expensive hookers are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:12 AM
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Well most men aren’t manwhores so you shouldn’t worry about it anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:46 AM
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Sex is a need for men because of validation. If it was sex only, men could pay for hookers but many guys can’t feel satisfied from that because they can’t feel validated. Same with high bodycount women, they won’t feel validated if multiple men has used her in the past. He isn’t special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:43 AM
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fit,virgin,loyal,empathetic a 30+ woman Sounds more valuable than the average 20yos
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:53 PM
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Whatever helps you feel better 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:29 PM
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No it doesn’t work. If women actually wanted casual sex with no strings attached from the beginning in their teenage years, we would see less trauma from them and more guys getting laid while not having to lie for sex. And I don’t know what you mean by rape. If you meant rape as in liking the idea of forcing a woman to have sex and she didn’t want to, I don’t believe most men would want that. Men fantasize more about women wanting them, not forcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:18 PM
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I don’t think you’ll get an honest answer from the ones replying. Women aren’t going to admit they tried to get love/commitment with sex and failed because it indicates the experience of low quality women. However, sex seems to be “enjoyed” after that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:22 PM
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If you look at their actions. Generally, young women prefer men their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:48 AM
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Men struggle with dating so it makes sense they are here. But I don’t understand why some women who are in “happy” relationships live on these subs🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:41 PM
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It’s not about them trying. It’s about them having standards and not wanting to date a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah pretty much. 0 miles virgin is ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:10 AM
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I don’t understand how that makes them insecure. If the ran through woman actually likes them, what’s to be insecure about? That’s why I asked if it’s the bodycount or the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:01 AM
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I asked many guys this. If it’s the behavior or the bodycount that they’re not attracted to. I believe it’s definitely bodycount but they don’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:36 AM
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Could you link the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:20 PM
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Women in hoe phase would definitely have sex with men they don’t want to date. But they are in a hoe phase for a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:54 PM
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Does the 7+ go down to as it was for 3>?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:41 PM
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Is that supposed to be an insult? Because many men would agree that it’s better to be single than commit to a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:23 PM
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Dm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:50 PM
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Again, simps exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:56 PM
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Yeah simps exist. Water is also wet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:55 PM
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No. You just have less options for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:53 PM
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I have asked in the past when having casual conversations. The rules are the same. The only type of men who are into those women are anti redpill. Also that would be extremely bias trying to deep dive by asking for someone for an answer to confirm what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:35 PM
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I don’t see the same rules applying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:44 PM
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You’re speaking of who they USED to date. That would be different. I thought the discussion is for who they’re currently dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:24 PM
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Because I don’t think I’ve ever met them or seen a post about them. Guys who date those type of women are usually positive about them and are the ones hating on redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:17 AM
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But those men aren’t complaining about those type of women. The previous commenter was talking about men who talk down on low quality women but continued to date them and financially support them. I’m asking if you think those type of guys are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:05 AM
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Do you think they’re common?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:59 AM
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Hopium overdosed when the guy is hot enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:58 AM
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Well the type of men she’s talking about is redpilled no? This is purplepilldebate after all. They don’t talk about it because they’re embarrassing and pathetic and would be called out by other men. Those men aren’t part of the general that you’re hoping to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:50 AM
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As long as she’s hot for what? For sex? Sure. For relationships, they would definitely say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:45 AM
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1 They say “women” because that’s what they believe women want in general. And what does that have to do with hypocrisy? 2 That wasn’t the point. When men claim that women go for bad men, they’re talking about women who are wanting relationships. Yet those women get screwed over by those type of men. So they are stupid for chasing those type of men. However men aren’t chasing slutty women for relationships, they’re only using them for sex. Sure there’s pregnancy risk and I’m sure those men are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:42 AM
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Okay so you just made a random comment about a certain group of men that doesn’t really describe redpillers assuming this is what op is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:12 AM
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That would be low intelligence to call out something that is a minority. And if you want to counter by claiming that women who are attracted to dark triad men are rare too, then I can say if that was the case, dark triad men would be struggling to find sex/relationships. But they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:48 AM
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You know men like that? Because from my experience, men who date those type of women are not bitching about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:39 AM
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No they don’t. Men are aware that simps do exist and have called them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:26 AM
1

Those specific type of men would definitely be against redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:18 AM
2

For example 1, those are two different types of men. For example 2, men aren’t stupid for going for slutty women just for casual sex. If it was for relationships, yes it would be hypocritical but these types of guys wouldn’t talk down on slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:12 AM
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Are you happy because no man “outcompeted” you by sleeping with her first? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:25 AM
3

Guys who believe they can actually get genuine attraction from just making more money are misguided. That’s like majority of redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:14 AM
6

Women can sense what a man is doing on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:14 PM
5

I can’t tell if he already knew that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:24 AM
18

I don’t think women want a child from someone they don’t find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:33 AM
0

Obviously we don’t know you. But it’s best for people to understand the generalizations rather than hope for exceptions. The main point was on OP’s take on men leaving their women once she ages. Which is unlikely to happen. The reason why men don’t want older women is mainly due to her experiences not because of her age. Plenty of 30+ women can be physically attractive but the experiences can turn men away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:30 PM
13

Older men have negative views about SINGLE women their age, not MARRIED women. They’re not going to leave a woman because she grew old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:50 PM
2

I tried explaining this but they choose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:47 PM
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What would him not getting laid has to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:29 PM
4

That would be most men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:57 AM
7

They could also be engaged in casual sex and not know it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:18 PM
19

True. Men don’t either. They’ll lie up and not admit they used hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:11 PM
1

Okay thanks for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:31 PM
1

What does top 10% of women mean? Because plenty of women can look attractive with makeup on and that’s way more than 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:44 PM
3

Sounds like you fulfilled your revenge fantasy👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:32 PM
3

He wouldn’t have gotten that feeling from women his age. Can’t get it from someone you’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:16 PM
2

Those quotes you listed aren’t necessarily said by the same men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:11 PM
1

The problem is you have no way to prove that these men will leave their partner once their partner gets old. And you still fail to understand that men don’t like women with experience, not specifically age alone. Perhaps it’s something you choose not to believe. Men talk shit about women who’s slept around and been used by other men. Which includes older women who’s still in the dating market. But they’re not saying anything to a older woman that are married. Rather they usually compliment them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:45 PM
2

You’re focusing on posts men make that triggers you. I’ll just let you have this because it’s a waste of time for me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:06 PM
2

A lot of men are checking out too. I don’t think it’s mainly because men aren’t attractive but also because they don’t put effort since the quality of average women are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:18 PM
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No man is saying that last part unless they’re trolling or extreme basement dwellers. You sound like someone on inceltears who specifically search for certain opinions/trolls to confirm your bias. Men are not attracted to women who gave her body to other men, not really about the age. That’s something hard for a lot of you to accept and insult men by calling them a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:49 PM
1

If you don’t accept and keep insulting men’s preferences, how do you expect men to stop putting you down? Also you’re right that many men don’t find black women attractive. But I don’t see men putting down black women nor insulting them. Only their past actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:15 PM
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“They don’t date a real woman like me, but would rather they girls” Sounds like the equivalent of a nice guy. And sure some men might put other women down but women don’t accept mens preference and starts to insult them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:57 PM
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It’s valid to assume women are lying. Women tend to lie about their past. You can blame other women for that. But if there was a way to know if she isn’t lying, then they would be forced to admit how much they find old women unattractive. As for your previous comment, not every man is going to leave because their wives got older. Plenty of men would be happy to grow old with their ideal partner. Perhaps this is women’s issue on what type of men she’s choosing which they do a terrible job of. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:18 AM
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That’s not how it works. I keep seeing this dumb argument being brought up many times. Men don’t want to older women because she didn’t choose him when she was in her prime and wasted herself on other men. Not because she’s older. There was a post earlier about opinions on virgin 30+ women and many men consider her to be a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:07 PM
1

I think my comment has triggered many of you. I didn’t say it was impossible but still a likely chance. And not every woman will have normal or high fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:35 PM
-1

I didn’t say every women can’t get pregnant after 30. But fertility does start to decline after 30 so it’s just something to be concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:10 AM
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No, I think many guys might find that attractive. I think the concern would be if she can have kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:54 AM
5

I’d say they hate virgins because they expect men who don’t want women who’ve been used/slept around to be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:35 PM
2

If me having respect for myself makes me unhappy, so be it. You can make that same argument with men being in an open relationship, letting their partner sleep with other men. I guess he’s happy. Wish I could as happy as him…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:03 PM
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I just told you, I see many women complaining about men slut shaming them. This should show that women who are sluts are low value. It seems like part of the reason you’re on these dating forums are for the same reason. You’re trying to convince men that you aren’t low value. Just because you found a man doesn’t mean other women can be in the same position. The 4b movement seems to be an example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:11 PM
2

Okay so what? Does that mean that we’re supposed to find you attractive? What’s the goal here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 09:43 PM
2

Plenty of women complain about men slut shaming them. In fact, I think that’s what I see most when women complain about dating. Not their looks. Don’t know if he’s low value or not. You probably have lower standards to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:28 PM
1

Men don’t lose value because women are rarely complaining about high bodycount men or ever bringing them up. For women, yes they do lose value because plenty of men desire low bodycount/virgin women and is often discussed about. Which definitely triggers many women. But that doesn’t mean high bodycount women won’t find a partner. It just depends on their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 06:50 PM
3

Ask women that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:15 PM
1

By less inhib, I meant trying to speak to women more. I wouldn’t say it’s attractive that overcomes looks. It just gets you more opportunities. Don’t think women are thinking if a guy is shy or not. They’d still want the physically attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:46 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:20 PM
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That’s pure cope. I don’t believe age turns women off but I also don’t believe attractiveness increase with age on men neither. Men just have more money and become less inhibited as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:57 AM
1

I guess you’re assuming men and women feel the same way about sex. Which they don’t. But if I was a woman, I’d probably be the same as other women, seeking the best partner hoping to not get used. I wouldn’t be a tradwife either. And never cared for one as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:42 PM
1

Men who have options are untrustworthy. Yet women still get used by them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:14 AM
1

Because not every woman realize they’re untrustworthy until they’ve been used
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:02 PM
-1

If I was a female, my perspective of sex would change or will I still feel like a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:19 PM
0

It’s not illogical. I’ve seen young women do things for certain top tier guys where that dependency fades away once they realized they were only being used. However I don’t believe women want to be dependent on the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:17 PM
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Weak response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:50 PM
-6

Women and men are not the same. So their perspective will change if they were a woman. They would be chasing the top men rather than being promiscuous if they were raised as a woman. I’m sure many women would be dependent if they got the man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:24 PM
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Men don’t want a hoe. Having a degree isn’t a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:02 PM
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Can women get a degree and not be a hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:01 PM
1

They’re dammed regardless who they sleep with. Men don’t want a woman that has slept around. Preferably no bodies but I don’t think most guys want to admit it so they just say low bodycount. My point is this is the average sub attractive men options, “women who slept around”. If it’s not then I wouldn’t expect many women complaining about why men care about a woman’s past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:04 PM
1

It’s a hard topic to discuss. I do believe women care about size but I don’t know how important it is compared to face/height.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:05 PM
2

If this is a cheap victory for you, I’d let you have it. The reality is you’re the one making women insecure by pushing this agenda when many guys are trying to prove that these women are more than enough. We’re more concerned about their past actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:52 PM
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Men don’t judge breast size as much as woman judging mens looks. I see more women complaining about men judging women’s past than their looks. This means that men care more about actions than her being a top tier model. Most men probably have fantasize relationships with average women who doesn’t meet those top tier beauty standards. I don’t think I can say the same for women. Looks still matter to men of course, but the threshold is way lower than women’s requirements. Any women can lock down a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:16 PM
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The bigger breast woman would be more attractive but it’s not that big of a deal. The man would be happy with anyone of those two. However, there’s a huge difference between a virgin woman and a woman who been fucked by multiple guys. The tall douchebag will still get more women interested in him than a short man with a “great personality”. Physically attractive men are guaranteed to get laid. Physically attractive men are not. If looks doesn’t play a big role in men than we should see more phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:53 PM
1

Definitely Elon Musk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:42 PM
3

How small?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 PM
5

It’s a bonus, not a requirement. Men care more about the acquired traits that OP mentioned. Meaning just because a woman is a gigastacy doesn’t mean she’s desirable if she was a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:39 PM
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Nah I’ve seen women simp for skinny guys more. It’s not really about how much muscle they have, rather how attractive their face is. Which proves OPs point because having an attractive face can’t be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:29 PM
1

If she wasn’t promiscuous/been used, then she would’ve been desirable for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:01 PM
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The issue is she’s promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:47 AM
1

No it’s because even normies will struggle finding a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:29 AM
2

So normie guys? Which is worst. Although normies do have a better chance of finding a decent woman as long as he’s still young. Blackpill doesn’t mean you can’t get laid. Just a rather unpleasant route compared to attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:57 PM
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You’re not uncommon. But it’s definitely insulting that women who unattractive men can get seems to be extremely promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:19 PM
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Some men do claim that. I don’t doubt those relationships guys can be happy. Because that’s their standards. But why do you claim it’s cope? It doesn’t mean non bluepillers are jealous. They’d rather not be that guy. Or fear being that guy. Edit: sorry I misread. You meant certain of groups of men that claim all bluepillers are unhappy. Sure I can agree it’s cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:43 PM
2

Well yeah that’s you. Doesn’t mean others want what you have. So using the word cope is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:11 PM
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Some men just have standards. If they want to sleep with these type of women that’s been around with unattractive men, it’s no different from just paying for hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:40 PM
1

Because I see it as a whore. Especially if I want to invest myself into a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:20 PM
2

If he isn’t fun and sexually compatible, she would not be sleeping with him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:01 PM
1

Understandable. I can agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:51 PM
2

So answer my question. The average women goes around sleeping with men and would reject him if he ask for commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:50 PM
1

Not my worries. I’m not the idiot who married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:48 PM
2

Okay so you believe women are intentionally promiscuous? You asked how I feel about them and I said they are not common
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:45 PM
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That’s something I can agree with. But my original point was women don’t want to be used as a sex object and would want to be seen as the one men would want to take care of. The guys you mention is not taking care of them. Especially when she’s encouraged to work. Btw I think men who uses prostitutes are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:42 PM
2

So you believe other women want to sleep around like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:37 PM
2

I believe majority of women become promiscuous due to being fuckzoned. So they’ve always been used. As for the women who were intentionally promiscuous from the start, they are not common and I don’t think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:24 PM
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He’s not taking care of her in that case. And he’s not sleeping around unless he’s using prostitutes. Not every guy you see is lazy slob that only works the minimum. In fact, that guy is probably lucky if he had a woman like that sticking around while he puts no effort. This isn’t the average relationship. Most women would’ve left.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:14 PM
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Why do you make it sound like a bad thing and he’s only using that woman? You believe women would rather be a whore than a wife that’s being taken care of?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:20 AM
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They use sex hoping for a commitment from chads. Getting attention is all they need to be fulfilled with being object of desire. While for men its sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:09 AM
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Men want a woman that hasn’t been used by multiple men. But those women are the ones with high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:02 AM
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I added quotation to “hot women” because you also have to think about other traits of these women. In my experience I’ve seen unattractive guys with hot women all the time but I wouldn’t consider those women ideal due to other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:57 PM
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Them breeding with 2s and 3s make sense. But for the ones who managed to get “hot women” without having a lot of money, they are the minority when it comes to first world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:06 PM
3

Isn’t betabux simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:58 PM
3

Appearance do play a huge role that people wouldn’t admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:14 PM
3

It’s just women trying to defend their promiscuous mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:56 PM
1

They didn’t. “Television figures are set to break previous records at the Women’s World Cup. In 2019, 1.12 billion people tuned in globally to watch the tournament according to a FIFA survey.” I’m guessing this is what you’ve read. The billion people are the total that watched the World Cup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:46 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:13 PM
1

My argument isn’t based on something that isn’t real. I’m just explaining how unpopular women’s sports are. Women are getting paid more than men even though they perform less. They’re also taking a cut from the mens revenue because womens sports don’t draw enough profits(“the crowds”). So women are not at a disadvantage when it comes to sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:11 PM
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Yes they’re better at it which means people would rather watch mens amateur sports than women’s professional. That’s if a hypothetical scenario mens professionals does not exist. And as I was saying earlier, women are at an advantage since they’re getting paid for less performance compared to amateur men. Obviously sports vary but major sports like soccer and basketball are good examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:09 PM
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So men do not have an advantage over women in sports. They get paid for how much they’re bringing and many times women’s sports had to be funded by the men’s profits. Also, I’m sure majority of the population would rather watch amateur men’s sports than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:34 PM
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Technically women earn more as a professional athlete. They have been defeated by amateur males that never got paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:01 PM
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Nope. Unattractive men can get with women if he has status and pursues lower quality promiscuous women. The way he gets them just requires more effort and different approaches compared to attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:45 PM
1

Unattractive men have been with many women too. There’s hidden contexts you’re not thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:45 PM
1

If those guys would rather do that but most attractive men do not use hookers. The effort they need isn’t comparable to the average man. Like I said, the guys you know aren’t as attractive as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:24 PM
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They’re probably just high tier normies. Don’t see why attractive guys would pay for escorts when they can easily get on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:31 AM
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Because I myself look down on other men who paid for sex workers. Would I not look down on myself if I did the same thing? I try my best to not disappoint myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:12 PM
1

There is definitely more you can do to make it worse. And many people do look down on others who have paid for sex workers. Even though women are not attracted to male virgins, I’m sure they’d see guys who paid for hookers as less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:36 PM
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They don’t. Sounds like something you see in the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:59 PM
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No. It’s not hard to get sex. Choosing not to pay shows more self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:58 PM
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Physically attractive men don’t pay. And arguing they pay with their looks is weak as it’s not comparable to provider route.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:44 PM
1

Just blackpill because I believe I know what women really wants. But redpill because it can also work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:43 PM
1

There are men(physically attractive men) who get it for free and have a meaningful experience. I see paying for sex as a way of being a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:39 PM
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Don’t think I could live with myself knowing I paid for an escort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:44 AM
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I don’t believe women see men for casual sex. If they hook up with him, they’d date him if he didn’t fuckzone them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:47 AM
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I disagree with how it’s similar to a “deadbeat who gives good D”. But a 5’3 guy definitely makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:57 PM
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Probably shouldn’t date regardless until your older. Many girls seem to gain trauma from boys their age but rarely talks about it compared to older men grooming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:06 PM
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True. Getting a 4 year degree that you’ll never use sounds like the smarter move lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:26 AM
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Boys do not put effort into school compared to girls. Just because they have better grades, doesn’t mean women are smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:28 PM
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Mainly because these men just want to be themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:23 PM
-1

The guys who can’t get laid doesn’t want those women because of their past so it’s just an easy insult for them to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:41 PM
1

I see this common in this subreddit with women. It just sounds like a revenge fantasy to get back at men by pushing the agenda that “women can fuckzone a man too”. I wouldn’t take her comment serious at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:16 AM
1

It’s more like women have the option to find someone that loves them unconditionally. They will always find some simp that will worship them as long as they lower their standards enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:54 AM
1

Again, speaking about a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 10:04 AM
2

What if he doesn’t shame women his age but choose not to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:52 AM
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The problem with this subreddit is many women shame men for saying they prefer younger women and calling them insecure and only doing it for revenge. So I hope you’re really only talking about the small percentage of men who actively shames older women and not the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:50 AM
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Guys who dated at younger age still wants younger women. I don’t know why it’s hard for women to believe experiences is unattractive to a lot of men. And even if what you say is true, I don’t see the problem. Assuming he worked on himself, he should feel he deserve better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:41 AM
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I didn’t read his whole message. But I see his point now. It’s only true for men who actively talks bad about older women. However this doesn’t apply to the rest of men who also want younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:10 AM
1

Oh you got me. You’re absolutely right. Most men would love to be with a promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:55 AM
1

I didn’t speak for all men. Otherwise this would include simps
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:35 AM
2

“I keep telling you that women don’t see men like men see men. We just see people.” ….I don’t think you should be speaking for all women. “Hot, smart, fun, women” Lmao I’ll just let you have this one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:22 AM
2

Having a child would be a big motivator for me tbh. Other men would probably agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:17 AM
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Attractive men do better than average men. You said personality is more important. Therefore they should be experiencing the same as the average man. But they don’t. The men who starts building wealth and is seen as what others like to call the betabux. Plenty of men say it gets easier when they get older with money yet struggle when they were younger. Most people would agree younger people are attractive. And your take from your original comment was looks change. But it doesn’t mean someone wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:01 AM
2

Prime as in looks, typically 18-25. People do settle. Especially women as they age. Can’t get the man they want and go for men they wouldn’t have given a chance during their prime. There’s a reason why men don’t like older women. They don’t want to be settled. If personality is the only thing that matters, then there should be attractive guys who struggle. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:42 AM
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Nope. Older men hate older women because those women are experienced and they wouldn’t have given them a chance during their youth. A man doesn’t want to be settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:29 AM
1

Without the looks, the person will less likely to be picked unless it’s settling. Most people have to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:23 AM
2

Most men won’t stop loving a woman because she aged. Same would apply to women. They bonded when they were in their prime. So yes looks can still be the deciding factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:59 AM
2

So you think old men actually find old women attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:54 AM
1

Looks like men just need to have a healthy lifestyle to extend fertility time. But most guys don’t take care of themselves so that could play a role in decline of fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:20 AM
1

That’s not how it works. Men find older women unattractive because she has experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:12 AM
1

Not really. Because a lot of young men say they don’t want older women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:09 AM
2

It’s okay if looks change, you can learn to love that person due to the shared youthful experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:01 AM
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Anecdotes are weak evidence and you can’t just expect other men to be honest towards you. Many times, people just say things you want to hear and you choose to listen people that confirms your bias. Sure I agree that its hard for older men to relate/bond with someone younger but it doesn’t mean they can relate/bond to someone their own age either. Can’t bond with someone they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:05 AM
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Do you have statistics that shows this? Specifically men wanting women with experiences for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:52 PM
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Most as in who? Are you talking about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:34 PM
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Needs more context. Do you have studies that show this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:19 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:43 PM
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When I say attractiveness, I’m not always talking about looks. Men typically don’t find older women attractive due to older women’s experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:21 PM
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You can’t bond with someone you’re not attracted to. Why is so hard for women to believe that older women are unattractive for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:51 PM
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Those women could probably be going with men with options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:50 PM
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Stats that show this? Because I thought women were the ones who initiate the most divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:49 PM
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They won’t be able to bond with anyone. Might as well go for the attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:39 AM
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I don’t think most guys would leave a woman that gave her youth and purity to him even if she gets old. Older women are unattractive mainly because they have experiences with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:25 AM
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Most men do want a partner they can bond and relate to. I’m sure if you ask these older men if they prefer to be a “18yo dating an 18yo” or be an “older rich man dating an 18yo”, they’d choose the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:20 AM
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Older women will still get more attention than any man in existence. But they’re just not as close as younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
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So you think the average working man shouldn’t have standards when it comes to women’s past?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:35 PM
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So the answer is no
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:17 PM
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I’m actually against this post. As I think the type of women bad boys get are low quality women. However I don’t believe there is enough high quality women for every good man. So I ask again, do you think every good men will have an opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:37 PM
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You think every man will get the same opportunity as him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:10 PM
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Good looking guys can be themselves and don’t need game
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:25 AM
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Is he the only guy you’ve been with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:22 AM
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Unfortunately it’s unlikely we will ever know. If you ask women to do a survey, we won’t know if they’re being honest. The closest study we have are online dating apps of what type of men women are likely to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:21 AM
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Were they dating women their age or younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:51 PM
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Except Sarah wanted commitment… unless she’s coping with a hoe phase to deal with her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:44 PM
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lol that’s still easier than finding a good partner
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:17 PM
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Well if those are the men you’re dealing with, then perhaps it’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:56 PM
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How do those men have bad personalities? Unless you mean having standards is considered a bad personality. And what do you mean by them having a bad past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:35 PM
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Men date average looking women. It’s not the womens looks, its women’s past and personality that makes men standards considered to be high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:11 AM
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Are you talking about looks specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:01 PM
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I have a few friends who are dating 30+ women. They just see them as fwb so I’m wondering how the the women see them as.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:55 PM
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What you consider a great partner might be different from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:01 PM
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Again I’m blackpilled. Most men are struggling because they aren’t attractive enough. And I do call out the men who tries to disprove it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:51 PM
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I’m blackpilled and obviously don’t follow the betabux route. I don’t understand your point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:50 PM
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Sex and personality both matter for a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:48 PM
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It gets to a point where women are just seen as sex objects. But I’d say that’s just who the women are. If the guys find the right woman(better chance of winning the lottery), he would see her more than a sex object. Does the guy in your relationship only like you for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:31 PM
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Men fantasize about romantic LTR too, you know that right? They think of more than sex. When a guy wants to take a woman seriously, she’s seen as more than just sex to him. But most women aren’t getting taken seriously unless she lowers her standards. You’ve had one relationship, why can’t you find another?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:16 PM
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Personality is one of the requirements for men wanting LTR. If you’re only good for sex and that’s all men see you as, then unfortunately you’re not high value enough for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:56 PM
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Except he probably thinks women don’t care about looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:01 AM
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It’s different when they’re desiring you. But usually clingy girlfriends are just clingy to whoever they’re with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:18 PM
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Chads are guys who can be whoever they want and can still get girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:15 PM
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It’s easier to not be a virgin or have high bodycount as a man if your standards are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:26 PM
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Yes I’ve witnessed that. I guess there are some guys who have the option to do that if they don’t believe in a romantic relationships and more transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:19 PM
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Everyone ages. It would be idiotic to blame women for not looking attractive when they get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:02 PM
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He still loves you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:03 AM
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Do you think that’s how most men would view it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:34 AM
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I agree. Most younger women don’t want older men unless he had money/status. But the point I was explaining was why men want younger women and not wanting to start a relationship with older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:04 AM
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I’m playing her card because she thinks men will leave their wives once the wives get old. Which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:01 AM
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You think men will leave their wives once she turns 30 which is not true. Men don’t want want a woman that he never experienced her youth with. It doesn’t mean she isn’t attractive to him anymore when she “hits the wall”. It’s the experience, not the age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:59 PM
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If you lower your standards and date older experienced women, they’d give you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:51 PM
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But why won’t you date him? He’s no different from the young men who will also be old and retired as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:40 PM
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Is that really why men want low bodycounts? Let’s say if high bodycount didn’t had anything to do with her cheating/divorcing, does that mean men will start seeing high bodycount women as marriage material?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:33 PM
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I didn’t say there were men who didn’t value friendship with women. But plenty of men don’t. Hence the 45% study. Not only that but men will lie to women to try to get them to sleep with them. Men will also put themselves in position of abundance of women to increase chance of gaining sex/relationship. You might think it’s sad that men sees women this way but that’s just way it is. Being friendzoned after wanting more is a sign of disrespect towards men. I don’t know your situation but many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:20 PM
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By close friends, it’s someone you exclusively hang out with. Not just only in a socialized environment with groups of people. There is a high chance some of your male friends have fantasize sleeping with you. They wouldn’t hang out with you exclusively without the intention of intimacy. But even if that’s still not the case, lots of men don’t typically see women as someone they just want to be friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:03 PM
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Not every man will see women as close friends. Doesn’t mean they can’t socialize with women but it’s not someone they hang out with outside of working environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:18 PM
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Being social is a personality trait. Lots of guys prefer to be themselves and would rather not fake being social just to attract certain women. So being attractive is important because you can be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:15 PM
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I don’t think most men will meet an acquaintance and hit it off. Also means they will have to fake being friends with women in the first place which is a lot of work for small chance of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:04 PM
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No they’re struggling because they’re not willing to adapt to these women. Nothing is wrong with that. Put yourself before others. She’s not selfish for resources if she saves herself for that man. A man shouldn’t expect such women if he has nothing going on for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:25 PM
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No it’s definitely a good reason to shame. I just told you why lots of guys are struggling. To the guy it’s disrespectful. And yes lots of women reject unattractive men until they are ready to settle as long as he’s able to provide. Men can do the same for women who’s been used by other men. Anyways this conversation has been going on too long and just shows you that different men want different things. Just a numbers game of how many men cares about self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:33 PM
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Around 40% of young men are not getting relationships. Don’t think modern women is worth chasing for most of these men. And millions of promiscuous women(and women who has high bodies) asking not to shame their past. This sub for example. There wouldn’t be any shaming and no men turning redpill if promiscuous women are not an abundance to society. Lots of men are struggling for a reason. Yes it’s disrespectful. Maybe not intentionally from her but to the guy himself. It’s just the way it is. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:55 PM
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Because it’s a sign of respect towards the man. Men don’t want women who has been used by other men. Also from a biology standpoint, men are wired to find them attractive because it’s to ensure that the woman is his and the child is also his. And yes by respecting me, I mean she has to reserve value of herself. If she’s been in many relationships, then it’s probably her fault. But let’s say she just got unlucky, that’s tough for her. Life isn’t fair. Just like how men are born too short and ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:36 PM
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The message is making young girls more comfortable with the idea of exploring sex which can leads to more promiscuity. There’s a reason why men shame promiscuous women. Men have believe it to be immoral since the beginning of history. Women are free to do whatever they’re pleased but it’s not an environment I’d want to be around. I didn’t say I was specifically shamed for wanting respect. I believe women saving herself for her partner and not trying to convince a man to accept her past is a sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:04 PM
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Because it shows the characters of the women and it’s not someone I’d want to be around with. It’s a bad message and not something that should be practiced to prevent more women from being promiscuous. I wouldn’t want my daughters around those people. Every guy I know with a “female” friend changes behaviors when talking to them. Sex was only brought up if the woman was known to be promiscuous. I will say I want a virgin or at least a woman with little bodycount that has never participated in ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:43 PM
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Well it’s just my opinion. I don’t believe men and women can be friends and casually speaking about sex with them seems pointless. Not to mention how immoral it is based on the type of relationship I’d want. I’ve only been shamed on the internet from a growing number of women who had a past. This sub for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:07 PM
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I speak to women about other topics. It would be weird discussing sex if there was no intimacy. It is too much too ask and heavily shamed by promiscuous women. I turn 21 this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:56 PM
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They’re still speaking to you about sex without being intimate with you. How is it surprising? Not everyone is a degenerate that wants to have wild sex fetishes. I don’t have a religion and in the US. I’ve had relationship in high school. I find current dating hard because I look for non promiscuous women with little to no bodycount. As well as them respecting me. But that’s too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:34 PM
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I’ve had poor word choices. But still sex focused if women casually speaks to you about it. No, I didn’t talk about sex a lot with them. Only the discussion to want to have sex. But women can speak to sex with your partner. But not morale to discuss with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:16 PM
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I never said that’s all you talk about. I didn’t assume it either. But women casually mentioning it without shame is degenerate. Yes of course there’s other ways to bond. I’m just telling you the discussion of sex is a males thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:01 PM
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Yes it is but it’s not as bad as women talking about sex. Men and women are different. Sex damages women’s value, not so for men. I’ve found it disgusting when other girls were casually talking about sex. Most guys agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:22 PM
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Did you not read my comment? Women can still look good in her 30s if she takes care of herself and isn’t covered in tattoos/piercings. But that’s not the main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:18 PM
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I typically avoid it because I believe hookup culture ruins society. We often have the discussion of finding a decent woman. Even with the guys who were promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:10 PM
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It’s not wether she’s ugly or not. She’s older with more bodies/trauma/experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:57 PM
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And what actually happens is degenerate. Women with good morales don’t casually talk sex like that. I’ve only had experiences like that from older women who has been around and are open to it wether it’s promiscuous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:54 PM
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It’s because the women who are now giving them a chance are old and past their prime. They aren’t furious when talking about younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:34 PM
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It’s because it’s about women who are in their 30s that would never give them a chance when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:32 PM
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That’s why I said it I said it was bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:22 PM
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Men are the gender that focuses more on sex and are driven more on sex. Promiscuous women are degenerate and spreading bad messages to younger girls. Men and women are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:13 PM
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This is the first time I’m hearing of a 32yo virgin woman be so open to the topic of sex. You have a very odd group of friends who thinks sleeping around is such a normal discussion. Sounds like a degenerate environment that’s been spread in this society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:41 AM
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Because you said 32yo virgin talking about sex lol. Most random thing I’ve heard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:06 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:38 AM
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Sure you do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:21 PM
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It’s not odd. You’re talking to promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:13 PM
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What do you mean you “likely” wouldn’t if it’s a committed relationship? It should be a straight no. But I think you’re open for any women no matter her past. Still similar responses to bluepillers with low standards. I can’t relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:14 PM
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That is definitely cucked. You’re in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:30 PM
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No you enjoy it. That’s the thing. You’re brain doesn’t see it as disrespectful. You’re not competitive or masculine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:10 PM
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You only believe I’m wrong. No sane men who has high self respect wants to share his woman. But I guess easier to be in such relationships because that’s modern women for you. It’s part of the reason why redpill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:07 PM
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You wouldn’t mind your woman sleeping with other men. But your brain doesn’t see that as disrespectful. Definitely not masculine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:57 PM
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A friend is someone who you can relate to. But thanks for answering the questions. I wouldn’t consider you masculine at all. You don’t have self respect and you’re not really want redpillers strive to be. Especially when you’re don’t demand any respect from woman. Makes sense why you have “female” friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:48 PM
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The sex talk when it comes to guys is talking about who is hot and who they want to fuck. You discuss this with women? Typically there’s no benefit of a man being friends with women. A lot of guys agree with this especially redpillers who strive to be more masculine. But you think guys can still be friends with women while still relating to most men who can’t. Just a couple of questions. Do you care about a woman’s past? Are you willing to be in open relationships? What are your standards like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:19 PM
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You talk about sexual stuff to your female friends that you have no intention of sex? I don’t see how you can be the opposite. You think men and women are the same and only personality dictates the differences. I’ve met plenty of guys who claim to have “female” friends. But their behaviors always change and only exclusively hang out with them for the intention of sex/romance. By feminine, they’re soft and non aggressive. Like how women typically are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:57 PM
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They sometimes speak in a feminine way. Are usually gay/bi. Their behaviors are no different when speaking to women/men. Would avoid conversation about sexual stuff about women. Most men do not see women as close friends. Especially when they change behaviors talking to women. You are different from the norm and you fail to see it while desperately trying to prove that the average men and women can be close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:44 PM
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I wouldn’t relate to you at all if I met you. Pretty much every guy I’ve met do not have close female friends who they’d exclusively hang out with that has no romantic intentions. So yes if you have female friends with no behavior changes, you are feminine. It’s easy to spot. I know these guys and they do play sports but you can tell by their behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:25 PM
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I think revenge only happens when they had girlfriends that cheat/dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:13 PM
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No I told you I don’t want to be overall feminine. Because I’m not wired that way. I’m telling you that masculine and feminine are different. Guys who typically have close female friends with no behavior changes are more feminine. It has been my experience around these guys growing up. Because men don’t want or care for female friends. They can’t relate to you. No there is definitely a major difference between genders. You are unable to see it because you relate to women. If I was born a female,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:49 PM
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I didn’t say if I wanted those traits or not. I said you are overall feminine because you can relate to women more than most men. I don’t know you or your lifestyle. But the fact that you are able to equally be friends with women like you do with men with no behavior changes differs you from the average man. You did pretty much say you didn’t see a difference. When I told you there’s a difference of gender, you mention how there are different types of men and different types of women. What was t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:28 PM
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I was asking if women think men are bad for having standards. Like only wanting a woman that’s never had casual sex or has a low bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:10 PM
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Because I’m not feminine. I’m not wired to be that way. There’s more to you than the traits you mention that makes you feminine. You don’t see a difference between men and women. Only guys I know who thinks that way are feminine/gay/bi. It’s not an insult, that’s just not who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:07 PM
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It doesn’t happen. Boys and girls behave differently growing up and will hang out with more of the same gender friends. You might only think that way because you don’t see the difference of why men and women are different. The biggest discussion men will commonly talk that wouldn’t discuss to women is about women. Other topics are ones I mention earlier, sports, cars, video games…etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:01 PM
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Does having standards make you a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:47 PM
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It isn’t about what traits I do or don’t like. I’m telling you that I don’t relate to women. And most men don’t either. I’m telling you that because you relate to women and have the same behaviors as you would to other men, you are likely a more feminine man. This is my experience with guys who have female friends with no romantic intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:45 PM
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There are still major differences when it comes towards genders compared to different types of personality. If it has nothing to do with gender and more about different types of personality then gender roles would never exist. Children would’ve grown up with mixed gender friends and would get along more frequently. That doesn’t happen. I have never met a woman I have treated like I would to my male friends. My behavior changes and there are topics that I don’t discuss. This is the same with most…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:40 PM
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Because you’re overall a feminine man. I have respect for myself and would rather be competitive. There are some traits I’d posses that is considered feminine. But overall my whole life you can easily tell I behave like my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:29 PM
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I didn’t say being feminine was bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:07 PM
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I never said your life needs fixing. You can be whoever you want. I’m just telling you that it’s not the norm and most guys can’t relate to women. There’s more differences between men and women besides from reproductive organs. Most men are competitive, aggressive, materialistic, less emotional compared to women. That’s why you see men interact more in sports, cars, video games… etc. I know women who are in these environments but their behaviors are still different from men. Being masculine does…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:07 PM
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Every guy I’ve seen who would rather hang out with women with no sexual intention is feminine. Most of them were also gay/bi. It’s not the norm and most guys can’t relate. It’s not an insult. Most guys can’t just force themselves to be feminine without faking it. You can search up the characteristics of masculine/feminine traits and you should see the correlation of how group of males behaves compared to group of females. If you can’t see the difference then you indeed are feminine as being logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:26 PM
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You’re a feminine man that thinks you’re the norm. Most guys can’t relate to you nor would they want to be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:48 PM
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There is definitely an extreme divide. Lots of men act differently when they’re with other men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:33 PM
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You’re failing to see the point. You seem to be implying that it makes no difference when it comes to gender. If that’s the case, gender roles should have never existed and certain activities should not have one gender dominated spaces. There’s a reason why when majority of people have friends, it’s with another person that’s the same gender. If you see men and women as 100% equal when it comes towards friendship, you’re probably a feminine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:14 PM
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But there’s a major difference when it comes towards gender. Majority of men are not going to relate with women the same way they do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:06 PM
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That’s a dumb logic. Men can choose different paths given their choices and experiences as a man. Same applies towards women. There’s more differences than having different genitalia when it comes to gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:07 AM
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Yes of course. But it’s rare and it shouldn’t be a necessity for women to find the man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:48 PM
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Because men and women are not the same. Different interest and different goals. That’s how the world was built since the beginning of human civilization. Lots of men will fake their way into sex/relationship by progressive conversations. It’s one of the advices given to men to achieve success with women. Sure, guys who intentionally have close female friends might have a higher chance of success. But that goes the same with guys who have lower standards and don’t mind dating older or promiscuous…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:07 PM
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He has no interest in them and they don’t fulfill his friendship needs. Doesn’t mean he can’t have casual conversations with them but it’s not part of his priorities unless he wants to romantically pursue them. There’s nothing wrong with that and plenty of women are with guys with no female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:44 PM
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No. He doesn’t hang out with them outside of working environments. But why would that be concerning?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:29 PM
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What if he have acquaintances/women he casually talks to at work/school?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:16 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:01 PM
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Porn isn’t a “romantic” fantasy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:03 AM
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Gaslighting - “Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse or manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim’s mind.” Very likely you’re changing your story of that guys intention just to prove your point that a “woman can fuckzone a man” which is such an unknown scenario. I’ve never met a guy who claimed a girl just wanted to keep having sex with him no matter how desperately he wanted a relationship. Desperation has also been known to turn girls off.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:09 AM
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Even if it’s 70%, it doesn’t mean it’s a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:04 PM
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You only hear what you want to hear. And women want to believe what they want to believe. These virgin/low bodycount girls you mention who ONLY want sex with random guys definitely carry some type of trauma/mental illnesses. You’re gaslighting your story. No guy is going to feel heartbroken because he’s being used for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:01 PM
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It’s just more gaslighting. It’s tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:16 PM
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I mean I’ve never heard of a teenager purposely wanting to have sex with a guy she has no intention to date but is somehow normal in the head. It just doesn’t add up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:08 PM
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That sounds like she was manipulated by someone into believing in hookups. Assuming your story is true… Definitely some sort of trauma that she doesn’t know or isn’t telling you. Pretty common with high n count women to try to protect their worth. And since you’re lesbian, I wouldn’t doubt you have trauma of your own. I think your story is made up or you’re explaining that situation in a way so you can prove your belief. Women don’t have to ugly to be fuckzoned. Plenty of decent looking women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:42 AM
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I think appearance does play a role. An attractive woman(or at least decent looking) who’s a virgin would have more men wanting her. But an unattractive woman who’s a virgin is unlikely to find a partner due to men not wanting to invest his time and energy in someone who he doesn’t find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:49 PM
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Highly likely she was manipulated into hooking up. Many such cases with teenage girls. She isn’t telling you the full story. Both gender will lie. Women will lie about how personality wins but gets fuckzoned by attractive or high status men. I said I would never have a relationship with high n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:11 PM
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That doesn’t happen. Especially if she has a low bodycount. A lot of women seem to be lying to protect their egos. I’m not surprised as they’re also professionals at gaslighting. Biology dictates sexual attraction but doesn’t mean commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:57 AM
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Those men are the same type of men who are down for open relationships. Especially falling for women who knowingly sleeps around. They aren’t comparable to normal men. I don’t know what transgenders has to do with this discussion. I wouldn’t be attracted to them regardless as they aren’t actual females.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:58 PM
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Like I said, to you it isn’t. A lot of women seem to be changing the agenda of women’s sexual behavior. It’s disgusting. But the army of desperate simps is what carries them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:57 AM
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Then there was no reason for you to speak for what men want. Pointless comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:52 AM
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To you it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:59 PM
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I doubt that happened. Unless perhaps you’re part of the group of men that has been raising these types of women’s ego by being attracted to women who slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:57 PM
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Men who starts to fall for promiscuous women are usually low value and have no options. Women don’t typically hookup with low value men. Unless she’s in some rebound/hoe phase. That is a logical take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:41 PM
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A desperate loser who has no options. But this scenario rarely happens. Women don’t just go around trying to find hookups with desperate men. Especially from guys who starts to fall for promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:34 PM
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So they do have standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:26 PM
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Not desperate for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:18 PM
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Are you saying guys who wine have lower standards? Why would they be wining?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:16 PM
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Those men weren’t upset lol. You’re over exaggerating their intentions. If he finds a hoe to want to commit, he can easily find another one. You’re not special. The only scenario that comes close is women using guys for sex as a rebound/coping phase for their traumatic past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:13 PM
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They’re doing both
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:14 PM
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Sure you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:13 PM
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Men who have standards are more whiny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:08 PM
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No such thing as a man getting fuckzoned by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 03:05 PM
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Because they don’t. But that depends on what the guy wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:39 PM
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A man can develop love for the woman that gave him their youthful age and experience. But why would he invest his time in a woman that has nothing to offer, the one that gave it away to another man? Men who say older women are no longer attractive are talking for the guys who are currently finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:02 AM
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It’s only in their 30s and up that they realize they’re worth something. When she’s ready to settle down…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:52 AM
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So you think these men would actually date and commit to these high bodycount women if those women showed interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:13 PM
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Not disagreeing. Bad apples in every community.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:38 PM
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No it’s a genuine question. I’m wondering what she thinks the intentions of insulting was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:05 PM
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Okay that’s fair. Plenty of women don’t care. They still have options no matter what. But I do think some women do get hurt by it because they also start insulting men when they say they don’t want a high bc/promiscuous past women. Calling the men “insecure”, “dating women younger because he can’t get women his age”…etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:02 PM
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Are you saying men only insult sluts because they can’t get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:07 PM
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It makes sense if guys who can’t find a woman to have sex with relies on porn. But if you have someone and you’d rather watch porn, you’re definitely addicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:11 PM
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It is a realistic option. But men don’t just want “sex”. They want to be desired. Paying for a hooker won’t solve mens problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:14 PM
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I don’t understand your question. What if she made guys in the past wait? If the guy has knowledge of that then I don’t think he’d feel disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:17 PM
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They’re talking about certain women. Not virgins. I’ve never seen a comment saying guys want virgins to sleep with them right away(except for trolls and rage baiting). Women who didn’t make other guys wait should’ve given the same treatment to the guy she’s currently dating. Otherwise the guy see it as disrespect. How is he going develop love for a woman like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:01 PM
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They aren’t saying that. I think you’re talking about the women who had a past and now makes the guys wait. You do realize men also want love too right? Sure they might be thinking of sex a lot, but they’re also fantasizing a romantic relationship with a woman that they want to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:43 PM
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No they don’t. If a man doesn’t want to commit, he doesn’t care about virginity/low bodycount. You’re putting two different goals into one. The ones who don’t get commitment are the ones who men don’t see as wife material. Women who are promiscuous or had multiple sexual past isn’t desirable to be committed to. Also depends on the guys they chase. If he has options, he’s not going to commit to someone that isn’t special. Women typically chase guys with options. I don’t know how you came up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:27 PM
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I don’t understand your question. She doesn’t have to be available right away. Not every guy is expecting sex early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:25 PM
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Like I said, it will trigger a lot of women. That’s just what many guys want. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:06 PM
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Not having a promiscuous past, not hanging around promiscuous but environment, loyalty, doesn’t play games/tests. If I go deeper into this, it will just trigger a lot of women as they think it’s controlling. Putting effort means she put effort from the start, not just the man doing all the work. Unfortunately, for the average man, he will always be putting all his effort and as well faking himself to attract women. Basically guys don’t want to do the all the chasing. Rather all that energy shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:48 PM
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It would depend on the man. I’d say respect and putting effort is a big one. As well as the man being able to be themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:25 PM
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You don’t know what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:00 AM
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Unfortunately, we’re just looking for unicorns nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:28 AM
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Less men are approaching nowadays. It doesn’t make them appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:37 PM
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Can’t say much. Blackpill is against subreddit rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:41 PM
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Unattractive guys have to find a woman who finds him attractive. Unlikely to happen. And he also has to find her attractive…(no single moms, no promiscuous women…etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:28 PM
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Chads and guys with options are what women want. So basically unattractive guys just have to trick a woman into thinking other women want him. Just leads to more toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:22 PM
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I don’t think they will stop loving him. His looks are part of his genetics. If he gets old or a tragic event happened, she still knew what he had and already developed feelings from the start. Unlikely they’d leave him compared to guys losing money/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:43 AM
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That’s not an excuse. Plenty of women choose men with options thinking she’s a catch for him. You seem butthurt by my comment as a result to insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:16 PM
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That’s women’s fault for being the fool that gets fuckzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 PM
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I’m a guy and this is my experience with them and my guy friends who fuckzone girls. Good luck finding a study that asks underage girls if they wanted to sleep with a bunch of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:18 PM
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This has been my experience with them when I was in high school. Do you really think teenage girls are thinking about wanting to only have sex with all the chads in her class?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:37 PM
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Usually FWB happens because men don’t want to commit to them. And women typically go through a hoe phase for a reason(like insecurities and guys who fuckzoned them). Young teenage girls are not thinking about hooking up nor wanting a fuckbuddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:02 AM
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Their children will also be dealing with hypergamy. As well as an increase of single mothers not being able to find a betabux to take care of them. So it’s not really for the best if women don’t benefit from it. Tax money isn’t going towards porn or ai. That will never get approved. That’s up to men to decide what they want. And they aren’t porn addicts. Porn is just a second solution because the effort for low value women isn’t worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:49 PM
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They don’t really go around showing of their relationship from what I’ve seen. And less likely to hang out with promiscuous behavior women. Also it depends on the group of women. I’ve noticed it’s more common with Hispanic women. But this is just my anecdotes. They aren’t that common compared to the general women who only want guys their own age however. But they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:44 PM
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A woman who’s dating an older man probably wouldn’t relate to you. So they’re less likely to be your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:31 PM
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Women don’t want it to exist because they know they will stop benefiting from men. We would have less promiscuous women and less sex workers. Also reduces backup plan to find a betabux. I see that as a win. And sure it can be expensive. But so is dating a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:48 PM
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Realistic AI would probably take over in the future. Wouldn’t harm anyone would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:14 PM
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It’s could’ve been a good thing. But that’s not the case. Many women gain trauma from teenage relationships which can be undesirable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:13 PM
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Which leads to trauma in future women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:02 PM
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This is my observation. As well as linking it with biological facts. Women see sex as emotional while men see it as physical. Men are also design to spread their genes while women pick the best mates. In high school, rarely are girls promiscuous. They aren’t thinking about hooking up with multiple guys in their class. However that’s the best time for other boys to manipulate them which surely leads them to promiscuity. It would be difficult to do a study because observing underage teens sexual b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:50 PM
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Not as much as men. Sure there are a few women who were promiscuous from the start, but they are a minority. Majority of promiscuous women seem to be led on by guys from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:28 PM
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Sounds like girls should work on developing a strategy on how to keep a guy…men try to get out of the friendzone while women avoid being pushed into the fuckzone. The dishonesty of men is the equivalent of women leading on a guy. Teenagers deal with insecurities and chase attention to cope. Like a person doing hardcore drugs knowing it will keep getting worse. That’s the issue with young girls. If there was no insecurities and she believes she will find someone, she wouldn’t let a guy hit knowin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:24 PM
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They do think about loyalty and exclusivity, especially girls. In general, they don’t want to be thots. But guys usually fuckzone them and this leads to promiscuous behavior such as entering a hoe phase. Just a way for them to cope. A girl is not going to have sex with a guy if she doesn’t think it will work. Unless she’s insecure and dealing with loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:10 AM
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Sounds like pair bonding issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:39 AM
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If they have 20-30 bodies then it’s obvious they’re purposely hooking up. However, we don’t know the story of their first few bodies. I believe majority of women do not have intentions of having causal sex when they were teens. Rather they were driven to it by the guys who fuckzoned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:20 AM
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It doesn’t prove anything. There’s no context you can see behind those couples
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:22 AM
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Not the same guy. The guys who are complaining are only complaining because single mothers are their easy options. You literally put two groups of men and combined them into one. JFL As for the guys you see complaining about having to pay child support, they aren’t deadbeats. It’s mostly about who the money is going towards and wether they can see their kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:39 PM
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He’s not the one complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:20 PM
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Remember, she chose him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:12 PM
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You think he cares? Some men are not cut out to be fathers. But remember, she chose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:37 PM
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What responsibilities? She’s the fool who chose him. It’s literally a common advice from many men. Don’t treat women too nicely or else she will be turned off. Which leads to women choosing deadbeats. What they blindly seem to be attracted to. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:33 PM
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The women choose the fathers. You can’t shame him because he doesn’t care. He got his nut, planted his seed and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:04 PM
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They’re both equally as bad imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:58 PM
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He’s selling a online pimping course?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:36 AM
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Because he had options(or at least think he does) and didn’t find her as the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:34 AM
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I’m blackpilled so I don’t fully agree with him on the attraction of women. However I agree with his message on how hard it is to be a man and the effort you need to be successful. Kinda like David goggins version of being an entrepreneur. He sends good messages that gains a lot of listeners but he also takes advantage of it. Onlyfans and promiscuous women promote degeneracy and sends bad messages to the youth, especially girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:31 AM
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If it’s just casual sex meaning hooking up, then I don’t think it affects pair bonding for men. If he’s been in multiple relationships, then yes I believe it will affect his pair bonding. As for women, they have already lost their pair bonding if they participated in casual sex. Women don’t typically start with casual sex, rather they were forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:13 AM
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Or else we’d ALL be married happily to our childhood sweethearts, because those are the first person we “bonded” to. If the attractive guys didn’t fuckzoned girls in their teens, I’d say they would still be together. If it didn’t work, then they didn’t find that person attractive in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:07 AM
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I think that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:45 PM
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Yes. Always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:01 PM
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Rating is not based on percentile. It’s based on appeal. I’ve yet to see a woman that’s 7/10 without makeup. Unless I just made assumptions that the naturally attractive women were wearing makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:58 PM
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If she has 0 bodycount, does it have be -4pts because of no kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:19 AM
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You should improve yourself so you can have access to those women. I do agree that having no women will make a guy insane. I think guys who can happily go the rest of their life without women could be link to low T.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:09 AM
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I noticed they still have eye liners. But they look decent. 6/10 at best. I just wonder what a 7/10+ woman looks like naturally and no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:30 AM
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No such thing as a man hoe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:26 AM
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What does a woman without makeup look like? Every time I tried to search an “attractive woman with no makeup”, it just shows women that you are describing, which they have makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:51 PM
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They wouldn’t go through a hoe phase if chad didn’t fuckzoned them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:47 PM
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You’re just one woman. Rarely, do women discourage other women from being a hoe. Quite the opposite actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:45 PM
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Literally giving a bad message to younger girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:43 PM
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Guys don’t leave their wives for younger women. It’s definitely for other reasons. However they will cheat due to biological urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:42 AM
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Young guys are still developing. But it is most of their fate to end up average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:59 PM
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To be fair, average men does deserve average expired women. Lots of young guys fear ending up as average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:27 AM
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If you met a woman when she’s young and stayed faithful to you, you’d leave her when she gets old?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:23 AM
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Even a dead woman will get a date
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:19 AM
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They’re called incels
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:04 PM
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No you’re not. You’re desperately trying to prove that you are attractive to men who like younger women. You can find it creepy or disgusting but it has nothing to do with younger women being easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:38 AM
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Why do you think “looks” discussions are pointless?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:09 AM
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Some are mean, some are not. Can’t really generalize the whole community. As for the guys who are mean, well there’s bad people in many communities. And reasons varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:03 AM
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Why give up on her? Find out if she likes you and if not, move on. It doesn’t indicate she’s crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:32 PM
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I think I find her more attractive than an 18yo virgin when it comes to LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:41 PM
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Why would it be a red flag if she didn’t find anyone? She probably doesn’t like her options and didn’t want to give up her virginity for some guy she believes she’ll lose interest in. As for human desire, self control and discipline can overcome it. There is a red flag that she might have mental issues. But maybe some guys don’t mind it. As red flags are also common in high bodycount women and that would be of an issue for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:39 PM
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If she was insulting you, she’s definitely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:31 PM
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Men have been attracted to younger women long before porn was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:37 AM
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I don’t actually know but it seems like bluepillers want more bluepillers so they can label redpillers as the odd ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:19 PM
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When he’s attractive*
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:21 AM
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Don’t see how porn has anything to do with it. Women in porn have more sexual experience and are not high value. But I guess believe in whatever helps you feel better about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:47 AM
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You don’t. But I guess “loyal” wasn’t the right word for it. More like less “likely to cheat”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:20 AM
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I believe men can still love you if you age. Because you were with him when you were young. As for finding a loyal guy, you probably won’t find him attractive. Most likely because he doesn’t have options and women seem to be turned off by it. But since you’re 22 and had never had a relationship(assuming you’re also a virgin), guys might take you more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:59 AM
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We know looks matter. No one is shocked. It’s the gaslighting and women blaming it on our personalities that are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:16 AM
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Wish more women were like you. But the difference is they want to be looked at even though they won’t admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:11 AM
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Who’s saying 50yo women don’t have men hitting on them???🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️Should be common knowledge by now that men have fetishes for anything. And that wasn’t the discussion. You claim that old men want younger because they can’t get women their own age. Which is pure cope that old women have been using ever since these debates started.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:23 PM
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More copes huh? Finding a group of men wanting you and then saying those are “real men”. The pattern continues. I’d say young guys become redpill because they fear ending up as the men you want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:23 PM
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A woman who have too many bodies can show love towards you. But it wouldn’t make you feel special. As she has given it to other men. Same thing with single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:18 PM
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Men want sex. But they don’t explain the context of why they want it. Obviously it’s to feel desired. Paying for it or settling for a low value woman doesn’t feel like you’re being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:05 AM
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I was talking about women in general. The older guys want younger women because they don’t find the age/experiences of women their age attractive. Not because they can’t get them. Like I said, this is just cope from older women. It’s the most similar response I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:17 PM
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They do know what they want. And that isn’t older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:05 AM
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And you’re telling me men who like younger women only want them because they’re “easier”. I’m telling you that’s not true. Men like younger women because they’re young and isn’t as used. Your anecdotes of young men with milf fetish doesn’t prove your main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:38 PM
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So if older women can be manipulated? More men would go for older women? Also what are they being manipulated for? Sex? You can manipulate older women with money or taking care of their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:29 PM
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The men who want younger women care about virginity or at least them having a low bodycount. I don’t understand why you’re trying to tell other men that they can find older women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:24 PM
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Is she a virgin as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:05 PM
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They aren’t trying to impress older women. There are ways to impress older women such as betabuxxing and taking care of single mothers kids. Redpillers don’t admit it, but they do objectify women. They don’t want something that’s used and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:02 PM
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If they went low enough, then they would’ve dated women their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:08 PM
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What is that supposed to explain? Just because you see some men like “milfs” doesn’t mean other men will like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:04 PM
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I’m sorry to tell you but that is a mega cope. Men don’t want old women because simply old women are unattractive compared to younger women. It has nothing to do with women their age not wanting them. Men are supposed to be the initiative anyways, so if they wanted women their age, they would’ve work for it. I do think it’s mostly cope when men say men age like fine wine or men increase value at 30. But it just seems like a way to feel like they could match a younger women. Any tactic to try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:26 AM
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because there’s a reason women their own age don’t want them. Actually, there’s lots of reasons. Are you saying that old men want to date younger because women their own age don’t want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:01 AM
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Wouldn’t be high if less simps exist in this world. Lack of slut shaming due to men putting more effort for poor results.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:15 AM
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Let me guess, you fell in love with a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:20 PM
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There’s a difference. But I was not shifting goal post. More than 20% of women still have simps
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:50 PM
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Way more than 20% of women are getting simps I don’t see a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:26 PM
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Just shows beauty is subjective because I disagreed with most of your ratings. Madison would be a 9 to me. But I don’t really like rating girls as a lot of them have good makeup and plastic surgery. I find natural beauty more desirable even if she’s a 6 instead of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:56 PM
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These women “glowed up” too late and/or had plastic surgery. They had potential to look better younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:56 AM
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Even if her standards for looks is high, she eventually settles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:53 AM
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Way more than 20% of women are getting attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:54 PM
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No. The average men will put effort into Beckies after failing to get stacies. They’ll give them attention and money which raises these girls ego up. These women barely put effort back and aren’t even virgins. Yet guys treat them like 10/10s. If you mean Stacies as girls who aren’t hideous looking than sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:50 PM
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I wasn’t specifically talking about looks. More like the quality of the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:16 AM
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Ask them whats attractive if they think Scarlett/Madison are mid. Most likely will mention someone you don’t find as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:13 PM
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Men would actually appreciate it if they didn't have to put in a great amount of effort to get a girl that isn't all that great, but that's not how you ladies operate. Simps are already putting a lot of effort into these women. You can’t really win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:25 PM
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The point was my standards were based on past actions while womens standard are often uncontrollable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:56 PM
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And insecure man and an insecure woman who wants each other would probably love the hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:56 PM
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I want a virgin woman that supports and respects me. But I guess that’s considered a fantasy :/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:45 PM
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I couldn’t really explain it. It’s more like as surprise or something unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:49 PM
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Puts effort into me. Makes me feel important
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:51 PM
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Girls do the stuff for guys. But they seem to give up after the guys with option fuckzones them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:33 AM
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I thought you meant guys from Reddit debating. If their income is average then let them know. Show the stats. Seems like a win to you anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:11 AM
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Not all the men you’re speaking to are in HCOL areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:48 PM
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If the man made top income then it’s fair he deserves higher value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:51 PM
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Do you think they would date older women if there was no revenge involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:24 AM
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It isn’t hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:14 AM
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Men and women like different things. Men like younger inexperienced women, and most men are not attractive enough when they’re young. So their drive to make money is to attract younger women. Not really hypocrisy if women also chased attractive or rich men when they’re young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:19 PM
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I don’t think those scenarios align. They aren’t thinking about places with high incomes. A man can date whoever he chooses, so can women. Both parties complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:14 PM
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The average 30+ year old man makes 100k+ a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:03 PM
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most of me exes Why do you have a lot of exes? If it works, how come you haven’t found someone already?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:02 AM
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A self respect men will not lie to himself about the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:35 PM
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You can’t convince every man to be a simp/beta
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:23 PM
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Both are equally important
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:37 AM
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Women get fuckzoned. Men get friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:34 AM
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Definition of success varies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:49 PM
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It’s the gaslighting that women spread. And they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:00 PM
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lol I tried watching the Ashoka series. Turned it off when I seen a sigma female “badass” bike rider.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:07 PM
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go find a woman who has a good relationship with her father, who doesn't have a high n-count or lots of baggage, who doesn't go drinking and partying every weekend, taking girls trips etc and who doesn't dress like a professional with lots of tats and piercings while posting thirst traps and selfies on social media for validation. I’d love to be proven wrong if these are the women that anti redpillers are receiving. Btw you’d have to be specific with n counts. Some people think it means 10+ bodi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:58 PM
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Even if they didn’t follow redpill, they’re still not getting good women. Perhaps your definition of a good woman differs from redpill. I don’t think every redpillers are the same. You might be only talking about a certain group of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:51 PM
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So what type of men gets the top tier women? Seems to me you’ll get undesirable women wether you’re bluepilled or red. Only exceptions are attractive guys who women seem to break the rules for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:53 PM
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But it seems like guys who have standards are often insulted by the opposite sex the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:09 AM
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Resulting to insults because other men look down on your husband 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:01 PM
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A good relationship should benefit both parties. Exactly, that’s why I said redpillers aren’t jealous of your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:33 AM
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I thought blackpill content was against ppd rules
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:29 AM
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I married a hood guy. A good guy because he benefits you. Redpill guys aren’t jealous of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:09 AM
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Or they’re just not attractive enough to be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:41 PM
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It’s just a self defense mechanism women use as they don’t want to be seen down as being a non virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:08 AM
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Doesn’t matter, he’s considered the prize. She’s not even that attractive and can easily be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:17 PM
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Hoeflation. But doesn’t apply to chads
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:46 PM
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More like making 6 figures. I’d say a millionaire is equivalent to a virgin Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:00 PM
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He’s more rare than the her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:57 PM
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If I had Elons net worth, I wouldn’t think I’m dating up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:16 AM
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She’s a gold digger. No way she’s above him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:03 AM
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Those are men who wants to use money to date young gold diggers. They aren’t thinking about “rules broken for attractive man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:10 AM
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My bodycount is low. And I never paid for a prostitute. I don’t understand your second question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:39 PM
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No. I just think that’s the age men starting to have to accept their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:26 PM
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These older men have to eventually accept their worth and lower their dating standards. And sometimes that means having to be settled. I think a lot of young men fear ending up as those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:15 PM
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I’ll give a few short explanation. -Society shames sexless men -Biologically, a man has the urge to reproduce to ensure his blood continues -Having a relationship makes a man feel like he’s secured This I why you see chads or top men not committing to a relationship as they already feel secured for themselves. A man without relationships or sex(without paying) would feel worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:10 PM
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The only way for a man to be “connected” to society is to have a woman he can have sex with? Yes I believe this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:47 PM
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Some teens might’ve socialized but had bad experiences such as getting bullied or comparing themselves to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:45 PM
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Because this is the average man’s dating experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:41 PM
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I don’t think you understand then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:39 PM
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The guys who mention this topic aren’t interested in women that sees them as a backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:01 PM
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She didn’t make him wait. He was considered a backup option
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:27 PM
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When I think of attractive women, I think of what percentage of women have the potential to be attractive. It’s pretty high. But for men, it’s quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:21 PM
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Not everyone wants to accept the pain of being a loser. Giving up on trying to find a decent woman is accepting defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:11 PM
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-Puts effort into the relationship (the average man doesn’t receive this) -Attractive (I find many women physically attractive if they work on themselves) -Low bodycount (0 bodycount is ideal) I never thought of my standards being high until learning about modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:01 PM
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I’m hoping you’re right but we also hear stories outside of pornography that sometimes confirms sizes does matter. Examples of how women had better sex with prior men. Or how they insult men of their physical traits if women’s feelings get hurt. Basically it isn’t confirmed wether size matters or not. They aren’t going to admit it like how they won’t admit if looks matter or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:38 AM
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I think a lot of women are good choices for men. But women’s actions causes women to be unfit. Men however have little to no control over if they’re fit or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:47 AM
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Usually science, exploration, unknown history, the mystery of the world. What I notice is the most socialize/charismatic person would keep up and engage with me while others would be bored if it’s not something trendy or popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:06 PM
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The solution is for new generation of women to step up their game up as well. Men have to meet all those checklist just to end up with a woman who’s been fuckzoned by another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:43 AM
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I found myself being the uninteresting one as I would rather talk about other things instead of sports or video games when speaking to other guys. And women seem to only talk about partying or whatever is trending on TikTok. I know this isn’t everyone but it’s from my experience in most socializing environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:39 AM
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More men would probably pay for prostitutes if porn was banned. It wouldn’t really solve their problems of finding a decent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:15 AM
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They hide and ignore the men that puts effort into them as those men aren’t seen as a dating potential for them(usually because those men aren’t good looking). I’m pretty sure most of those women are young and it has always been the same pattern that has been going on for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:29 PM
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I didn’t. The person I responded to brought them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:56 AM
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Attractive guys can be themselves. Rules are broken for them. Women put effort into them. Average unattractive guys have to compensate and are will have to put effort into women who often doesn’t give it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:50 AM
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I’ve never heard of that. Most guys I’ve talked weren’t autistic or any of those traits
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:48 AM
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I don’t see how I am. Never denied unattractive men can’t find a relationship. It’s just never the same as if the woman found him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:44 AM
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Yeah but some guys gets better results with less effort while some guys have the opposites. Which does have to do with the way they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:37 AM
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Yes. But if that’s not the case, then no man is unattractive. Because even ugly guys who have status are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:33 AM
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Did you imply that’s what I thought the average man was? Sounds like you make a unaware assumption to redpillers. Idk what radfems are either, never thought about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:31 AM
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Those attractive men are what many women would compete for. I never said attractive guys only want casual but many do as they have more options. The treatment of what attractive men gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:17 AM
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Well like I said, it wouldn’t mean you can’t get laid. You’ll just have to make it up with other traits and pay in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:14 AM
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Men with options will fuck women and just leave them at that. That’s the difference. The unattractive men still gets relationships but he didn’t get the same treatment as attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:08 AM
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I don’t think many would be radfem or redpill if they got who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:06 AM
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I think you might be able to find out if she was. But not all women can be fooled into casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:59 AM
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It would depend on who is willing to settle. The ones who are left didn’t want to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:57 AM
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“Women make rules for the average men and break rules for men they find attractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:48 AM
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Then those single women wouldn’t be single
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:40 AM
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Yes they do. But different rules are made for whoever they find decent vs whoever they find most appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:38 AM
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Attractive guys are less than 20%? Idk I always see attractive guys never struggling with women. But average men will struggle and even decent looking men will sometimes struggle too. It’s like they have to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:35 AM
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Physically? Yes. It doesn’t mean you can’t get laid if you’re not physically attractive. But I’m sure many guys would rather be physically attractive to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:29 AM
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It’s probably because women would rather be single than be with the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:22 AM
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It’s simply talking about raw attractiveness which I think is lower than 20%. Any man can get laid however. Just have to pay for it in someway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:19 AM
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You can disagree all you want. But men aren’t denying hard work will get them women. It’s just not the same type of attractiveness as physically attractive men. Just because you’re average looking and can somehow beat a hot guy up, doesn’t mean women will start going crazy for you like the conditional treatment they give to attractive men. Also lots of women choosing men for looks will often choose a skinny prettyboy who can easily get beat up over an average gymrat. How does that make the attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:13 AM
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It doesn’t really support your point. There’s a different reality and a different type of attraction when it comes towards women liking looks compared to hardwork. The thing is people see a man with a woman and just call it a relationship and just leave it at that. But they ignore the fact that not all relationships behaves the same way. There’s a reason why terms like betabux” and “settling” are used to describe relationships. There’s nothing wrong with hardwork but I don’t think you can work f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:27 AM
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Yeah if she’s reformed and no longer a prostitute. I don’t shame women for n-count Really helping the slut acceptance movement. Besides; all relationships are a form of prostitution anyway. That’s true most of the time. Especially when a man pays or put all his effort into impressing a woman. However some lucky guys will be in a nontransactional relationship with decent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:40 PM
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I see. I can understand why people call guys who have standards incels. Worship women or be labeled as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:36 PM
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So you’re willing to date a former prostitute if she is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:57 PM
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Physically, yes. But I’m talking about LTR. If a guy just views womens for her looks, then he has no self respect for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:11 PM
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Depends on the chad. The ones who were born chads are probably bluepilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:30 PM
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Are you saying women can have whatever personality/characteristics they want and still be attractive for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:29 PM
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I think you misunderstood my comment. The men you listed did do something about it. But the ones I’m talking about are the attractive guys who could be themselves and still get women at ease. Perhaps they looksmaxxed and worked on their appearances. Which almost every men would do if it was possible. But it doesn’t work for most men to reach that level of attractiveness. Also most men don’t get opportunities as much as athletes due to genetics and surrounding support. So there was nothing they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:22 PM
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It’s more of comparing yourself to other men. There are men out there who barely works on trying to attract women and get decent attractive women while the rest of men have to compete and take risks for women who are usually less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:31 PM
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What are your thoughts? I find it weird how every woman on reddit says they just want a kind, empathic man who treats them well...but if you just do that well to the friendzone you go. I don’t think they are lying. If you are a physically attractive looking guy that every women seems to want, she’d probably love it if you treat her well. But if you are average, you need to figure out a way to let her see value in you, which is typically the “bad boy traits” or having huge status. From what I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:18 PM
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What is bad sex to you isn’t bad to other men. We like different things. Some guys just find slutty women unattractive. While some guys would rather be dominated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:09 PM
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“Men today have to work 10x harder than their grandfathers for women who are 20x worse than their grandmothers.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 PM
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It’s bad but world isn’t fair. Just seems like desperation if they’re looking at anything serious with these type of women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:22 PM
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“Good relationship” could vary from person to person. And it would be with whoever benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:25 PM
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Some men have more self respect for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:26 PM
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Well I didn’t say these short men only considers tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:42 AM
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6ft guys typically have options so they would rather date someone shorter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:06 AM
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You should probably approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:04 AM
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Literally this. A lot of short men would probably desire a tall woman for the increase chance of their son not ending up the same height as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:03 AM
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Does being a misogynist/misandrist still applies if they meet their ideal partner that they have no disrespect for?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:36 AM
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So you’d prefer she have let other guys fuck her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:01 AM
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You seem to because you mentioned earlier about “mediocre sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:53 AM
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Well you’re supposed to be a normie and at least not ugly. But it’s not a guarantee either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:36 AM
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I wouldn’t know. It’s hard to find a 1/10 woman unless older women or fat women were part of the options. The best time to cold approach for average looking guys was in high school because many girls have low self esteem and haven’t been hit on yet so they’d probably date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:11 AM
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So if you wanted to marry a woman, you’d want to let other men fuck her before you would marry her just so she can have some experiences? Also it’s not about how the sex is, it’s about a special bond that two exclusively share. Obviously it can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:07 AM
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He would have to approach a woman who has never been hit on. Not even from men who just wanted to use her for sex. So yeah probably close to 1/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:03 AM
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Typically from men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:59 AM
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I’ve never understood that insult. Not every guy wants a woman to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:44 AM
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The men who want younger inexperienced women would prefer virgins. But sure the average men might be fine remaining average and not caring. I do believe an ambitious man who is competitive have a higher desire for wanting a low bodycount/virgin woman. Typically young guys are more ambitious/competitive. Redpiller influencers also encourages and respects hardwork. The pattern seems to align as they also prefer low bodycount/virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:43 AM
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I’d be fine with a non virgin too. But she has to be really special.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:52 PM
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If it was a virgin woman, then it would make sense to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:09 PM
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Men want virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:46 PM
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I’ve reread your comment multiple times. I understand clear well what you’re saying. But these are all anecdotes that you’ll never look at the real picture. The guys are not attractive because you think they are. You claim you’re ugly so your standards seem to have drop. Like almost how a woman has to settle down after chasing attractive men. If they were attractive, a decent woman would given them a chance and their view could change. That’s never happened to them. I’ve never met any long term …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:14 PM
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You already have men dating you for existing. Men don’t. The difference between men and women is men get friendzoned while women gets fuckzoned. Women also complain about men and it’s from attractive men or men with opinions not committing to them. As for those incels complaining, eventually they’ll accept it. But they are still told that that it’s their fault when it was all because they weren’t attractive enough. If the average women found average men attractive, how come they are less likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:26 PM
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Those men are frustrated because they know they can’t have what physically attractive men have. Jestering or trying to entertain women they aren’t attracted (personality wise) won’t solve their loneliness problem. Most average men are not attractive. They all have to compensate and put effort while women break rules for attractive men. Sure, attractive men can have horrible personalities, but you’ll never see them struggling with women. Like I said earlier, it’s not the same type or quality of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:27 PM
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You have no idea what the average man goes through. You’ve gotten attention from men even if you were average. Men have found you attractive. But a truly average man is not attractive. And he isn’t getting any attention at all. It doesn’t happen. High bodycount differs for each man. I believe some men just say they want low bodycount when deep down they’d want a virgin. Saying “low bodycount” minimizes insults from women. I think in your experience, the men who talked to you are the ones with hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:42 PM
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The type and quality of relationships differs between an average man and an attractive guy. Women will break rules for attractive guys while making them for average guys. The treatment is not comparable. What do they need to change about themselves? Giving high bodycount women a chance? Not expecting a non promiscuous woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:43 PM
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Ah so pretty much incels from incel.co. You’ll find your group of people on r/inceltears. And yes they might not be ugly, but not attractive enough to be themselves either. Notice how they have to change themselves and lower their standards just to get crumbs of undesirable female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:00 PM
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I don’t know where you are meeting these incels because I’ve been on these forums for a long time as well. They’re only incels because they’re ugly, not their personality. Or perhaps they have certain standards for women such as wanting a virgin and that seems to trigger many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:27 PM
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Redpillers don’t claim themselves as incels. You’ll call misogynistic men like Andrew tate an incel. Or any men who have certain standards for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:22 PM
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Sure you have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:35 AM
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Majority of the incels I’ve talked to are too insecure to talk to women. They aren’t the stereotypical dirty basement dweller incel memes you see on the internet. But you want to believe what you want to believe. I can’t really convince you otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:45 AM
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From what I’ve seen. it looks like young average guys can still get with a young woman. But they’re just women who jump from one relationship to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:54 AM
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She wouldn’t know because these true incels don’t waste time talking to her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:46 AM
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Tall skinny prettyboys brutally smv mogs gymrat manlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:46 AM
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I’ve never met a self claimed incel that uses Craigslist. Seems like you’re thinking of a certain group of men and generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:43 AM
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What made them incels? Because if you dated them, they are less likely to be incels. The real incels have never dated as they are more aware of red flags in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:18 AM
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You only know their personalities online. How they behave irl is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:29 PM
6

Women claim it’s insecurities and being compared to their pasts. Let’s say the truth is somehow revealed and the guys know they mogged every single one of them, would they still want those high bodycount women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:05 PM
5

Better looking, taller, bigger dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:02 PM
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What do you recommend these older men to do? Assuming they have wealth and worked hard their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:30 PM
3

Would they still feel insecure if they knew they brutally mogged every single one of the girls bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:23 PM
1

Same rule still applies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:55 AM
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And how attractive the guy looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 01:11 AM
1

I just said what it sounds like. You don’t have to like my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:55 PM
2

And these pretty faces aren’t getting fuckzoned. It doesn’t happen as often that makes it a rule. There was no need for you to mention it in the first place. Your statement sounds like some revenge fantasy to get back at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:40 PM
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These are women who are in a hoe phase. If you could ask high school girls(before they’ve been screwed over by fuckboys) if they’d wanted to hook up with boys with no commitment, I guarantee you majority of them will say no. The women you’re explaining does exist, they’ve all been screwed over. The quiet introverted attractive guy will find a relationship and I doubt he would fall for a hoe. He has more options than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:16 PM
1

But she isn’t giving him sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:07 PM
1

What is your conclusion? Because you claim that an attractive man who hasn’t put effort will more likely be in a situationship rather than a committed relationship. I can only see that happening with a woman who needs a revenge fantasy after a heartbreak. But she would need to find an attractive guy that is willing to commit to her to fulfill that fantasy, which is unlikely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:37 PM
1

Nah this rarely happens. Majority of women didn’t choose to be a slut. If she knew the guy wasn’t relationship material or isn’t committing, she wouldn’t offer him sex even if he’s physically attractive. Although it would definitely happen when the woman is in her hoe phase. But there’s a reason she was in a hoe phase in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:23 PM
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The women offer him situationship? Never heard of this scenario. If it does exist, it sounds like the woman is going through a rebound after a painful heartbreak.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:06 PM
12

The attractive man can’t secure a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:00 PM
1

Women didn’t choose to casually sleep with alphas/chads. They were just forced into it because that’s who’d they typically chase. I think a large percentage of women would side for the LTR with no casually sex. But there’s not enough attractive men who are willing to commit to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:59 PM
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Perhaps men would have higher standards and go for the top 20% of women that posses natural beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:48 PM
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That’s not how attraction works. The average women has the potential to be attractive to most men. The average men are invisible to most women. There’s a reason why a lot of guys are struggling. Don’t see many older men meeting their partner when young from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:39 AM
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Most men are unattractive but can make up for it with money and status(money is more attainable). However most men are not born with money so it takes time. Hence why young men are more likely to be single compared to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:06 AM
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Did you edit your comment or did I misread? I don’t know what I replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:43 AM
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Young men don’t have resources to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:30 AM
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Does muscles beat face?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:27 AM
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Because they have good personalities /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:28 AM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:11 PM
0

That’s even worse. It means she’s only with you because of what others opinions think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:58 PM
2

No she wouldn’t. She’d want to grow a family with Chad and grow old together.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:55 AM
1

Wdym by can’t secure a partner today?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:28 AM
4

JFLLLLL
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:26 AM
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Well at least they have a open window to secure a desirable partner. Meanwhile the rest of men will have to deal with heartbreaks and working on themselves to attract high bodycount women and/or gold diggers…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:43 PM
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Probably because mothers want their sons to be fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:20 PM
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It’s brutal, redpillers think money and status makes up to attract women. But it’s never as raw as a women simping hard for those young prettyboy chads just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:16 PM
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The unattractive men you see with attractive women have a personality that guys don’t feel is suited for them nor want to be. And those “attractive” women might look good on the outside but often these women carry a undesirable past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:11 PM
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I think there’s a difference of treatment when it comes to looks compared money/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:50 PM
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Just a month? She almost ruined a man’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:26 PM
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The person I replied to seems to thinks men gaslight. They need confirmation on something that is well known?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:03 PM
2

Idk what that game is. The games I’m talking about are games such as cod, halo, battlefield, Assassins Creed. I don’t play those games anymore so maybe it isn’t bad now. But the recent games just felt like it’s woke when you have woman being as superior to tier 1 sof units.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:51 AM
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Growing up, I enjoyed playing games of a males fantasy of being a commando and killing bad guys. They don’t really make games and movies like these anymore. And they ruin the franchises we loved. They add female leaders and make men inferior to them in terms of skills and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:23 AM
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People still deny looks mattering so it would make sense as why it’s repetitive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:05 AM
2

Men get to be passive, women hit on them daily, pay for their food and drinks, and they get free sex and blowjobs without having to earn money or initiate anything. Some of them are already doing this. But majority of guys won’t realize this because they aren’t attractive enough to get that treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:42 AM
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That’s not what I meant. The guys who had the chance of getting it easily are majority of the time attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:28 AM
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Okay… I don’t know what that has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:16 AM
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There’s a percentage of men who aren’t waiting. The threshold of men being attractive is extremely rare compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:02 PM
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I explained it before by mentioning what we meant. It’s not virtual signaling. No men here is hiding the fact that older women are not attractive and wouldn’t feel ashamed to explain it. You ask “what about older women?”, we give you an explanation. Now we could also use your concept and say that most women are not appealing(if we’re including all ages). But now even young women think they’re not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:55 PM
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We do say that. Notice how men usually only talk about weight and age but not the genetic structure of women. And it’s not virtue signaling. I’m explaining it to you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:49 PM
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I feel like those are the same type of women who thinks Margot Robbie looks young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:28 PM
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I didn’t say you had to be happy. I was explaining what men meant when they found most women attractive. They’re not taking about older women. Didn’t think I needed to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:11 PM
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Well yeah if we use your concept, then I’d agree most women are not attractive to most men. But most women from their teens all the way to late thirties still have the chance to be attractive(maybe older if they age well). In terms for relationships, looks aren’t the only factor. Other traits can dismiss what men would consider a committed relationship. I do believe men have a different looks requirement/threshold when comparing for who they want casually compared to committed relationship. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:07 PM
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Idk about other men but I look for other traits for wanting to take seriously. Still have to meet the minimum threshold for looks of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:42 PM
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What they mean is most women had the chance to be physically attractive to a large percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:38 PM
1

That’s also true. Each women have their own ways of course. But you also have to understand that women will say things like they “purposely” lost their virginity to their first bf and deny they’ve been pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:29 PM
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With a soulmate, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:26 PM
1

I think I’d get ED if I knew I paid for it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:37 PM
1

They don’t purposely throw it away. They’re just too blinded to whoever they give it to. And then they enter the “my past doesn’t matter” phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:34 PM
2

This just shows how rare it is to find a virgin woman. Very unfortunate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:26 PM
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Probably depends on each individuals. When I was in high school, girls preferred virgin guys but they weren’t crazy about it like it was a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:53 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with you on that. But a Chad in his prime have options so I’m sure he can easily find one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:51 PM
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I didn’t see I was better than him. I just wouldn’t want to be him or relate to him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:45 PM
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Because your husband thought it was weird we wanted a virgin. That means he would still be with you if you had previous bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:08 PM
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Why would a man in real life tell you that? And you’re husband is the guy we don’t want to end up as. Lots of those guys are fine being the common man. Redpillers are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:59 PM
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Yes that’s not the only reason of course. Even if it’s hard for women, men will still want virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:59 PM
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Women and men are different. Women won’t look at chads and think he’s used goods. But men however will when it comes to nonvirgin women. If it bothers you, just accept it just like how most men have to accept they aren’t desirable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:40 PM
1

Ummmm ok👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:29 PM
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Wow I didn’t know women could control if they bleed or not. I guess I should find it disgusting now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:25 PM
2

But that’s natural for women to go through
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:11 PM
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Yeah and it’s disgusting when a man kisses a woman or eat her out, when another man’s penis has been there. 🤢🤢🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:27 PM
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Okay good for the betabuxxers. None of us red/blackpillers would want to be them. Instead we fear we end up as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:53 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:48 PM
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Looks matter, men aren’t denying that. Why would it be a belief? And she’s just average. Not above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:09 AM
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I don’t think it’s weird. It’s a lot harder for men to get sex without paying. However, it seems harder for women to retain their virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:56 AM
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What do you think of men who would only take virgins seriously for committed relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:38 AM
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Well if you were single, you’d be considered leftover. But I don’t think anyone would think bad of you if you’ve been with one guy your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:35 AM
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And now they’re ruined. But oh well that’s how the game works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:29 AM
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Not red flags on those traits alone but also not most guys types either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:52 AM
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So it makes sense as why they won’t date her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:50 AM
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Things such as drinking, doing drugs, hanging out with other people who do those things. Basically the environment that relates to promiscuous women. I can’t really blame women who don’t put effort into the relationship. Most guys aren’t attractive enough to have women wanting to chase them. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:20 PM
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Low bodycount(preferably virgin), puts effort into the relationship, not doing activities that relates to promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:29 AM
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Low bodycount(preferably virgin), puts effort into the relationship, not doing activities that relates to promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:27 AM
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It might benefit most men but the attractive men loses what they currently have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:23 PM
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You do need makeup. Otherwise women in general wouldn’t be wearing makeup. It’s a shame because we don’t know who’s naturally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:41 AM
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I prefer them to be virgins and look attractive with no makeup on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:44 AM
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Idk narcissists women who think they’re attractive turns me off so probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:21 AM
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lol no it’s not. If a girl is turned off by it, he can find another girl that would find it attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:19 AM
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Even if a man fumbles, he can still get away with it if he’s good looking enough. Women break rules for the guys they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:01 AM
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If a guy is attractive enough, women would be making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:26 AM
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Depends on what you mean by the top 20%. Most of what redpillers claim to be top 20% only attracts gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:23 AM
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Why are you mentioning whores? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:28 PM
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Then good for you👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:09 PM
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Not like that would matter anyways as men are attracted to purity. I wonder why there’s a pattern of women being open to other traits other than looks as they gain experiences…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:30 PM
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Makes sense, older women care less as they need to settle. Men don’t want to be settled and are attracted to youthfulness and purity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:22 PM
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It will be bad either ways and is just the reality. That’s why I take the blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:09 PM
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A lot of men have. Just go on any looksmaxxing forums. The one who has good genetic potential succeeds. And the ones who doesn’t, well yeah they’re still complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:45 PM
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You’re correct. But most guys don’t have the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:40 PM
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I think a lot of guys know women care about looks. It’s just many women deny it and blame men for their personalities/actions and that triggers many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:35 PM
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Save your virginity and don’t get fooled into being fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:11 AM
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Idk how those two relates but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:44 AM
2

It’s probably better than watching another real man fuck another real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:39 PM
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Complaining about OF models is idiotic if you ask me. It’s the losers who pay for them that gives them power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:02 PM
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I’ve never claim to say that? Most women aren’t at their peak but they definitely had their chance. Most men don’t no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:57 PM
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I think they do. Just not with the average man. Most women will not get commitment with the top men so it’s best to just say they don’t want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:41 AM
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He sees a bunch of betabuxxers who are not attractive with high bc women and thinks looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:37 AM
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What’s wrong with that? Most women can meet those criteria when they’re at their peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:51 AM
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Men are realizing not to chase because the reward is too little
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:52 AM
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From my experience, I noticed the ones who shames the most are the guys who pay for prostitutes and hang out at strip clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 08:47 AM
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It would be ideal if you can act yourself and be with a woman that meets your standards. But most men aren’t getting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:24 AM
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Well same can be applied to women. Women also simp for physically attractive guys. We just don’t hear them as much because attractive guys aren’t the general male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:14 AM
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Not really. When it comes to relationships, men aren’t just attracted to looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:11 AM
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Unless they’re good looking or got lucky, they’re not going to find their match anyways. Redpill is the closest they’ll get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:06 AM
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I disagree. Many men are definitely struggling to find their type. It’s part of the reason why redpill exists in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:00 AM
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Well you said for relationships, assuming commitment and exclusively. Therefore, women need to bring more than their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:50 AM
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In this scenario I’m placing it on women. There are other scenarios like sex work and pornography where I place it on men, not women. Not all women are having sex or hoeing around? Sure but many, probably most are being put in that position. Otherwise there would be no redpill community discussing about the rarity of the type of woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:01 PM
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Sure but they’re not going to change. There’s no benefit for them to change. This is just another one of those “women get used by the top men and blame on men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:29 PM
1

Reread my comments. “Women face harsher consequences”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:54 PM
1

It definitely does have to to with what’s being discussed. You’re making it an issue of calling out certain men that will not change as it has little harm in them compared to women. Women don’t benefit from being a single mother. Should’ve chosen better partners instead of red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:23 AM
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One still benefits(the top men) and the other does not(women). I guess women face their issues when guys like chads doesn’t want to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:09 AM
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Yeah good luck teaching those men to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:35 PM
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In my mind there are different types of men. Some worse, some good. Women have the freedom to choose who they want. Somehow many end up with a negative outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:30 PM
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Yeah they shouldn’t. Not like it’s going to stop them from being a deadbeat. Which other men will still have to pay taxes for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:26 PM
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You claimed that men should be taught to not be deadbeat dads. That’s not really going to stop them as men don’t have as much consequences compared to women. In a way, it benefits them as their genes have been spread. You attacked my comment for not putting 50/50 gender on the problems. I don’t see it as 50/50 as most men aren’t put in a position to use women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:09 PM
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Well sure I take it back from my original comment as I wouldn’t want my tax money supporting single mothers who got fuckzoned. However aside, I still believe more of the blame is on women on these pregnancies accident as they still chose to chase certain men who carries these risks. As for most men, it’s less likely they’ll experience this problem. More so, trying to find women who aren’t prone to these scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:02 PM
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Those men you mention who are sleeping around don’t care and will still continue to be promiscuous. These are usually also the guys that women only have feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:24 PM
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You can’t blame all men when most have not got the chance. And not all women become single mother/thots. But we know what type of men those women chose to chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:32 PM
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That’s sounds like a problem of women choosing the wrong men and making themselves less likely to be committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:37 PM
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Most men aren’t spreading their genes nor do they get that opportunity. Women choose the top men based on looks, status or however these men manipulates them wether it’s hypergamy or preselection. Although the men who women choose are also to blame for creating single mothers, it’s the women who mostly chase these men that made their choices. Sounds like women don’t properly analyze the risk of what type of men they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:31 PM
1

What’s a post wall woman’s mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:13 PM
0

Maybe you’re only focused with the dishonest men. I don’t see many men saying they don’t like older women because of “baggage”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:10 PM
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Wouldn’t say it’s fully equal. Women can choose to abort and no one has to pay(except for abortion), or choose to keep the baby and others will be forced to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:32 PM
1

That’s true. I think younger generations should be taught ways to avoid making single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:24 PM
1

So it’s a lose lose situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:19 PM
0

And when the woman chooses not to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:19 PM
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Women already have a choice to keep the baby or not. It would be fair if the man has the choice not to be part of their lives and avoid paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:15 PM
1

No but that would be a rare scenario. Like almost impossible for it to happen. If she checked all the boxes, then it’s highly likely there would be chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:04 PM
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It is in the best interest of women who are virgin by choice or have strict sexual boundaries and high standards and are unhappy with the current dating climate to avoid men who consume porn for anything serious, Maybe men would be more motivated to do nofap if those women exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:14 AM
1

I misread your first comment. When did you meet your wife and would you consider her the traditional values that red pillers desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:29 PM
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Yeah desperate men exists of course. Why many young guys could end up redpilled is because they fear of ending up in the same position as these older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:38 AM
2

What you consider “nice lady” and what you consider “happiness” can differ from each individual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:56 AM
2

A lot of young men are fearing to end up in your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:53 AM
2

And they definitely brag to their friends about fucking a granny jfl
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:51 AM
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there are 20 others fighting for that spot. They aren’t high value men. Majority of single mothers aren’t getting a high income man to commit and take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:48 AM
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They do want kids. But not raise another man’s kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:42 AM
1

Perhaps you shouldn’t have responded based on this post. Because it was talking about what men find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:24 AM
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Naturally attractive women are definitely pressured to wear makeup because other women who wear makeup will mog them if they don’t. And for you last point, women complain about not wanting to be objectified yet will try to meet the standards of objectifying by putting makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:36 PM
2

Are these young women inexperienced or do they have pasts with these younger guys that force them to go for older guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:29 PM
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Would you yourself stay loyal/exclusive and commit to an ugly woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:12 PM
2

What’s the reason for them preferring older men? And I don’t think 5 years older isn’t that much of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:56 AM
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Like she wants to be the prize and/or be a gold digger. She wants the guy to lead and let him put all the effort into the relationship. I don’t really know how to explain it. I would like to find someone right now while I’m still young. I wouldn’t want to begin a relationship with older women no matter my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:15 AM
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The type of woman I want wouldn’t date someone old when they’re young. But at the same time I wouldn’t want to begin with someone in their late twenties+ either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:29 AM
4

Can’t find any natural beautiful women anymore because they are pressured into wearing makeup. Otherwise, they’d get mogged by the naturally unattractive women with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:06 PM
3

Even if she has a little acne, it’s not the bad either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:39 PM
0

The ones who don’t settle are shamed as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:15 PM
3

I’m saying that the men who wants a virgin aren’t insecure either. But women think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:41 PM
2

Because they think men who worry about bodycounts/wanting a virgin are insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:51 PM
1

Would you still commit to her if she did offer on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:31 AM
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Men have a lower threshold for looks though. Women don’t so they’ll never simp for the guys below their threshold. “I can change him” or “we can make it work” doesn’t apply to men below certain looks or non appeal. I don’t blame women because I myself don’t think the average man is attractive either. I’ve always wonder why some women are with unattractive men until I see the context of their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:36 PM
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Not every woman can get the best man so they have to settle. We don’t know anything about their past
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:19 PM
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I think that’s what he meant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:19 PM
0

I’m sure if they find ones that don’t behave like tiktokers, they wouldn’t say anything bad about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:56 AM
2

The average woman would probably choose the first one and try to make it work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:43 PM
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That’s a hilarious take. Can’t relate nor can higher drive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:35 AM
1

I’m sure many women would want that but they end up getting fuckzoned which seems to lead them into a hoe phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:02 AM
0

So you encourage people to sleep around before getting married? What’s the point of getting married anyways? Seems like a whole transaction for people who are settling down after having their “fun”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:58 AM
1

Just curious. As there are reasons why woman will do the chasing if the guy isn’t attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:46 PM
1

So to sum it up, undesirable men(looks) and undesirable women don’t want each other. Can’t really blame them. Perhaps those women with lazy husbands are in the same league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:23 AM
1

When I said “desirable/undesirable” I wasn’t talking about the womens looks. More like her actions, behaviors, and her past. What makes those dads horrible partners? The mothers chose them didn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:10 AM
0

Were you her first?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:07 AM
1

Just wondering, what’s your bodycount? I don’t believe dying hair and heavy body cosmetic means sleeping around like I used to before, but that’s because this trend has been rising that even younger teenagers started doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:01 AM
1

Physically unattractive men have to provide and settle for less. Yes, settle for less, the undesirable women. You asked if men can be good partners. We’ll never know unless these men had the chance with desirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:55 AM
2

Most men are not physically attractive enough to satisfy women. It’s beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:46 AM
3

If you’re able to simp for her and she still likes you back, then it’s highly likely shes a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:17 PM
24

It wouldn’t be a healthy relationship either and will be a competition when things start falling apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:34 PM
1

She would still be considered a slut. But if it’s like this for every women, then the world would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:48 PM
1

Guys aren’t going to admit it. They don’t want someone who’s been used. It’s also an embarrassment if your partner has hooked up or racked up high amount of bodies. This doesn’t necessarily mean they see women as objects. As personality also matters. Rather women who let other men used them are seen as objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:32 PM
1

Doesn’t matter if they cheat or not, the past still is a part of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:12 PM
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Because men want exclusivity. If she was with another men or had been in the past, it’s not exclusive. Has nothing to do with insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:21 PM
2

Yet redpill has been rising and plenty of men have been complaining about their options. Otherwise we wouldn’t have men-hating forums from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:06 PM
2

Exceptions doesn’t change the rules. And those men usually see those women as status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:31 PM
6

Guys who are friendzoned are low value. Same applies for women who are fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:15 PM
3

But men don’t want to marry sluts no matter how faithful they are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:12 PM
2

If she goes to the club, it’s an automatic red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:24 AM
1

Become a millionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:19 AM
2

JFL that’s a high value object. Not a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:24 AM
1

5 is pretty high
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:39 PM
1

I agree that women want men with lower bodycounts. But the problem is women are unlikely to find virgins/low bodycount men attractive because it indicates that the men are not valuable enough to attract women. Unless he’s good looking and chose to deny sex. This is why men think having a high bodycount is better for them because it gives them actual results. Sounds like to me a high value man is a man who has options but chose her. That’s rare to majority of women. Just like how a virgin woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:27 PM
1

There are different preferences but also traits that most men could agree that is unattractive. A lot of guys don’t want a woman who’s had too many bodies. Maybe would prefer or require her to be a virgin. A lot of the traits you mention doesn’t really matter nor would be a huge turn off for men. I’d say loyalty and purity is what determines a woman to be high value to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:50 PM
7

What makes a woman high quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:13 PM
1

Then those guys are delusional thinking that women can be attracted to them if they don’t have the looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:29 PM
1

Most men are not attractive in the first place. So no point in wasting time finding a woman that desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:28 PM
2

Betabux generally was supposed to mean being the second picked from a post wall(or near) woman who is ready to settle. It’s not betabuxxing if the woman is young and attractive as the transaction is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:46 PM
1

A lot of betabux guys already on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:27 PM
1

I’d like to know the true percentage of over 20 who’s a virgin or less experienced because right now I’m just overdosing on hopium.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:49 PM
4

I’m not disagreeing with you. Young women want similar age unless they’re gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 07:47 PM
1

At what age do you think it’s too late?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:19 PM
0

This is ideal. Unfortunately not everyone is mature enough or lucky enough to get that opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:19 PM
1

The probably don’t care. It’s better than settling with someone older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:13 PM
1

However, I’ll agree with you that the best time to start building a loving relationship is when you’re young. There’s too much choice and freedom in modern dating, and it leaves everyone dissatisfied. Find someone early on, commit to them, and build a life together. Society functioned a lot better when we did things that way. But no one seems to want that anymore, because they’re terrified they might miss out on someone “better.” This isn’t taught to younger kids. Maybe older people just want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:24 AM
1

A 6/10 who’s loyal virgin/low bc is more desirable than a 10/10 hoe. Men just have other expectations when it comes to personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:20 AM
6

It’s the closest pill to my views. I’m not thinking about other men. Just showing my opinions for guys who would leave because no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:05 PM
3

I’m not heavily redpilled. It’s just the role I picked. I can’t speak for all men, however I’d wait to have sex if she’s right for me. But it doesn’t matter, that was more of a high school thing. It’s almost impossible after to find someone who values the same. I think men don’t want to to wait because other men got it early. But it would be different if she was a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:20 PM
0

Who taught you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:17 PM
5

Yes that’s true. But you aren’t guaranteed a woman to like you even if you have everything else in life that has nothing to do with relationships. But a man who has shown to be with other women have gain attraction from more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:27 PM
3

I didn’t say they were
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:19 PM
15

Then don’t wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:17 PM
8

They want you to have other women as well to feel attracted to you. Crazy how that works…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:09 PM
-1

Because it is. Not all men are getting sex unless he provides in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:01 PM
2

I think the girls who are in the middle tend to be less sluttiest. Like they’re attractive but don’t focus too much on making themselves look hot. But women who are really attractive usually focused way too much on appearance and tend to be the most sluttiest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:59 PM
1

I don’t hate myself for hooking up. I do wish I’ve never done it because it goes against my beliefs. I learned too late that I wanted more exclusive romance instead of a degenerate toxic culture. And you don’t believe in pair bonding because you yourself are unable to pair bond. Either too many partners or too much exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:09 AM
3

They’re experts at getting sex but probably have lost the ability to commit to one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:43 PM
2

If you can’t sense any red flags, that sounds like a you problem. Same can be said about men. Attractive men work on their appearance to look attractive. That doesn’t mean all men can look attractive. Otherwise every man would’ve been a chad. You’re still wording as if every man is on the same level of playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:22 PM
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Attractive men who act normal will get love. What ever your definition of unconditional is, but there’s a difference of attractive men effort compared to average men. You’re thinking of the extreme but even guys like that have got it, but it might be more of “bad boy” theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:58 PM
4

Wether they had to change or not, they still got women that gave them unconditional love. Unlike average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:29 PM
3

There are different types of relationships out there with different qualities and transactions. It’s not all the same. This is why I think dating advice can be useless because others might want something else that differs. Average men do not experience what attractive guys get. There’s definitely a pattern of attractive guys succeeding more than the average men. Just because you expect an attractive guy to work for you doesn’t mean there are other girls who will expect the same thing. What I’m s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:42 PM
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I think there’s a huge difference between little and no dating experience. And the ones who have the most dating experience might not be a good partner at all. Do you expect promiscuous women to be experts in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:25 PM
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Exceptions doesn’t change the rule. These average guys still had to provide(mostly by having status or the just be first theory) while attractive guys had unconditional treatment. It’s not the same. Attractive guys can also include niche looking guys too but that’s how lucky they are to find a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:17 PM
8

Attractive guys lives are way different from the average man. They get romance while average men have transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:36 PM
0

Only attractive guys got that unconditional love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:01 PM
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Only in high school. But I regret it. I think hookup culture blinds people into believing a exclusive partner doesn’t exist. Probably because they can’t pair bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:28 PM
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Basically high bodycount women pushing for bodycount not mattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:22 PM
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I don’t hate women in general. Only women I hate are promiscuous women who push for an agenda. But I can’t hate women for their preferences for wanting attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:09 PM
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I said I wanted unconditional treatment. I am fully aware you can have relationships by providing in some way. All my ambitions I’ve achieved and currently working on is for myself. Not to advertise for a relationship. I’ve lost attraction to girls who’ve never put any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:01 PM
1

My fear is it will be too late as I will be too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:23 AM
0

You’d need to be physically attractive for unconditional treatment. Best way is looksmaxxing but not everyone has that potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:21 AM
3

Poor genes doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:20 AM
15

I just wished I was attractive to get that unconditional treatment. Of course I would love women if I got that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:45 AM
5

She will always keep changing partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:31 PM
13

Sometimes after having too much experience, they might dismiss the looks and just want someone that’s more fun
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:05 PM
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It just shows the reality of women that differs from what we are brainwashed. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:39 PM
2

Nope. There are more attractive women than there are men. Looks still matter but guys can find more women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:36 PM
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They just have to put effort into the relationship back. Women aren’t going to leave them just because there’s another man who acts alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:27 AM
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It was a figure of speech… Asking a woman her bodycount will trigger certain women and you risked getting shamed back. Self reported from what I read said it was “sexual partners”. So sometimes women might not even count random hookups as partners. Average is reported to be 4, which is still pretty high to certain young men who values romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:02 AM
1

We would never know what’s average. And you’re not allowed to ask either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:23 AM
0

Some women might value romance and loyalty more than being hypergamous. But seems like a small percentage of men get that chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:55 PM
3

Some guys think 3-5 is already too high
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:54 PM
0

I think relationships doesn’t workout because people find someone better. It’s why I think you should always be in a exclusive tight social group. With little to no opposite gender friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:07 PM
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