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| 1 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.Lol it’s literally scientifically true that men are less predisposed to weight gain than women. But okie dokie, I’ll come down from Venus and acknowledge you’re sooooo right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 11:59 AM |
| 5 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.Lol have you ever tried to eat 1200 calories a day? It’s pretty miserable. It’s a lot harder for women to keep weight off - many have to exercise to do so, just like many men have to exercise to be muscular. If your frame sucks you’re just not genetically blessed - this goes for men and women. Women can hold all their weight in their belly for example, pretty common body type, and it’s not ‘hot’ even if they’re slim enough. I know it’s a big complaint on this sub. But skinny women and skinny men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 11:58 AM |
| 2 | I met my LTR from being FWBs. Why do people here seem to think all women who have casual sex can never be considered for an LTR?Saw what she wrote. But what she described was not that. Read her post closely. She also literally writes that it’s a testing ground for LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.Men don’t have to exercise to be skinny in their twenties lmao. Women do. This is just sexual dimorphism. Thin women are attractive. Thin men are not - thinness is not masculine if you don’t also look muscular/powerful. I’ve been pretty consistent. I guess your position is that thin people must date and men who like bubble butts on their partners should have one too or else it’s hypocrisy. Lolllllll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 11:52 AM |
| 5 | Q4RP Unde What Conditions Would You Date a feminist?Yeah I don’t know how you could know and stay. Especially if you’re a feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 09:09 AM |
| 4 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.It’s not ‘easier’ it’s sexual dimorphism. Women have lower standards for faces imo than men. Especially if we’re talking abt for relationships, not just sex. Lean without muscle is the same thing. That physique is not attractive on men. The majority of men are built with more muscular frames - men who are ‘lean’ (barring those with amazing ‘frames’) are actually kind of below average. Especially in your twenties when most people are fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 09:08 AM |
| 0 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.No, you explained why something I absolutely didn’t say was wrong because it’s what you happen to be mad about lol. Yes, it’s not enough to not be fat as a man. Just as it’s not enough to be a muscular linebacker as a woman. It is pretty comparatively easy for men to remain ‘skinny’ especially in their twenties. Men are not predisposed to weight gain in the same way as women. I don’t see ‘fit dudes’ with overweight women. I see skinny dudes with overweight women sometimes, but almost never genui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.No, that’s not what I said. I said it’s not harsher, it’s just different. I didn’t say different can’t also be harsher. Nice analogy though lmao, how do you think you’re working twice as hard to look good? I think men are physically harsher when it comes to picking relationship partners. Bottom of the barrel standards when it comes to sex, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP Unde What Conditions Would You Date a feminist?Totally off topic - but I am a woman and I would not date a man who identifies as a ‘male feminist’. Always some weird BDSM obsessed dude or cringe pick up artist type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 07:52 AM |
| -1 | Q4RP Unde What Conditions Would You Date a feminist?Why doesn’t your boyfriend make you dinner because you’re both hungry? Why should you have to split a bill or pay for it all yourself but he can’t pay for it all himself? Just curious! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 07:50 AM |
| 9 | Q4RP Unde What Conditions Would You Date a feminist?Surprised she didn’t drop you, tbh. That shows a willingness to work through it. Or maybe just low self esteem/respect. I would drop anyone I thought was red pill at all in a heartbeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.No, it’s not harsher it’s just different. Men without hourglass figures go for women with hourglass figures all the time. Skinny men are rating themselves as if they are women. They are not women. Men are naturally bulkier and more muscular and many of them capitalise on that via training. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.No, it doesn’t. It means OP doesn’t understand sexual dimorphism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 07:36 AM |
| 1 | I met my LTR from being FWBs. Why do people here seem to think all women who have casual sex can never be considered for an LTR?But it sounds like the OP is just talking about dating without commitment. It doesn’t sound like she does have those kinds of boundaries - she’s viewing it as a testing ground for a LTR. That’s literally just that ambiguous vetting period before you commit to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Do women ever "date down"?Lol maybe 15% of women have hourglass figures, even when young. It’s nearly impossible to achieve unless you are genetically gifted with that particular bone structure. Tomboyish women are niche. Just like how some women like skinny nerds. Lots of people have a ‘type’ that is not conventionally attractive. Men don’t mind short women but the majority of men will not date women who are hugely taller than them. It’s just different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 06:55 AM |
| 6 | I met my LTR from being FWBs. Why do people here seem to think all women who have casual sex can never be considered for an LTR?What’s the difference between what you’re calling “FWB” and just dating without clear commitment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Do women ever "date down"?Yes. But ‘big women’ is a type like how ‘bear’ is a type. Short Indian dude is probably some people’s type. The rest is too specific imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Do women ever "date down"?Well...might want to go for an equally unattractive woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 03:40 AM |
| 3 | Women are objectified for their looks while men are objectified for their looks and income.Hate this stuff, but if you are a skinny man, your ‘match’ is not a skinny or slim woman. Skinny men are not, by and large, considered attractive (Talking about lack of muscle mass, not wiry thin hipster dudes with amazing frames). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Objectification and gendered mediaObjectification is about treating people like objects. Sexualisation is about treating people like sexual beings. I can think of someone sexually without thinking they’re basically the same as my car. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:49 AM |
| 0 | Do women ever "date down"?That’s not a lower bar, though. That’s a different bar. You’re talking about conventionally attractive, anyway. Bears are a thing, dad bod is a thing, skinny hipster dudes are a thing. Women’s blueprint for conventionally attractive is similarly narrow: within average height range, fit and slim with an hourglass figure, beautiful face, young, long hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:47 AM |
| 0 | Do women ever "date down"?It’s not a lower bar. The standards are just different. Same as how men don’t need to have hourglass figures to be thought of as hot - doesn’t mean there’s a “lower bar” for men. It’s just a different standard. Sexual dimorphism. I think you would think wrong on that one, but okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Objectification and gendered mediaNo. But it depends on the objectification and the film. I suspect what you think of as objectification is really just sexualisation. But also context is important. Men as a whole group were never treated as second class citizens. There are no pervasive narratives about men being incompetent or disposable and men are not being treated this way on a daily basis by strangers or colleagues, by and large. Sexual objectification of women OTOH. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:08 AM |
| 4 | How much drinks that are consumed on the first date influences your chance for a one night standLol, duh. But it’s also a bit gross to intentionally try to get people drunk so you have a better chance at getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:06 AM |
| 0 | Do women ever "date down"?The bar isn’t lower. It’s just different. You personally may not find fat women attractive but many, many men do. Same with a height a 6’4 woman is going to struggle, a 6’4 man is hot. A 5’2 man is going to struggle, a 5’2 woman is going to do just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 12:00 AM |
| 8 | Women don't NEED to be successful, funny or interesting to be a valuable partner. That's the difference.Lol it’s not about you. I know it’s shocking but women don’t exist to fulfil your bangmaid fantasies. We are people in our own right with intrinsic motivation (something a lot of manosphere men seem to be sorely lacking in). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.Lol why? You clearly think you’re the only objective judge and all the men at your college are golden gods lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.Lol can guarantee you the majority of guys at your college are not more attractive than Channing Tatum. Symmetry plays a role in attractiveness but is not everything. Channing Tatum is incredibly masculine looking - jaw line, eye shape, frame, height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:07 AM |
| 5 | People underestimate how freaking poor young people are today compared to the past and how much that affects their dating and sex livesCasual dating/relationships are ‘free’ or low cost, yes. Marriage has always been about money. Finances are crucial in most long term relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/20 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.So eDgY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.Would his sister care? What is wrong with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 09:47 PM |
| 8 | Woman, and Men rate people vastly different from one another so they will never come to an agreement.Yep. True rate me is men giving other men absurdly inflated ratings and trolling pretty women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 09:43 PM |
| 1 | What is a gentleman?I’m not saying women are too good for it. But no normal man is going to sit back and let his girlfriend do intensive labour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Do women need to have game?Lol I swear and drink and have never suffered for offers from men. Pretty standard in this century. She was probably just going for the wrong kind of man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 10:17 AM |
| 1 | What is a gentleman?What man lets his girlfriend do intensive labour? Never in my life has this happened to me. Chivalry is dead but surely not that dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 10:13 AM |
| 1 | What is a gentleman?Being a gentleman is about having a generosity mindset and a power that you are aware of and use for the benefit of those around you. Being a ‘lady’ is the same. You are aware of your standing, aware that people look to you for leadership and you wield your influence with compassion/take your personal power seriously. It has fuck all to do with being ‘nice’ all the time and never disagreeing with anyone or whatever men on the internet think it means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 10:10 AM |
| 1 | How much of your ideology or the ideology of this sub, is based on tribalismYeah I think this is definitely a thing. I said pretty much the exact same thing as a male poster on a recent post. Was argued with and downvoted. His comment was upvoted and he largely got agreement. Pretty funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 10:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themNot necessarily. Many personality traits are inborn - look up the big 5. Many people are naturally playful. Personality is not something that is necessarily worked on as a skill, although it can be - same as with looks. Eh. I disagree. I think there are a ton of men out there who never did any exercise and now they weight lift a bit and think it’s soooo much. A lifting session is not much harder than a pilates or yoga class imo and is much less effort than a 10km run and ‘cardio’ for men who lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 08:01 AM |
| 5 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themYes, the beauty industry is mostly patronised by women. Men do not wear make up, invest in skin care as heavily, or get plastic surgery at the same rates as women. It doesn’t matter if you think it adds value. A hot, wealthy person is objectively seen as having more value than an ugly, poor person as a dating prospect. It’s something that they ‘offer’ because other people like those qualities. You, subjectively, may only be interested in qualities people have worked hard for. This is somewhat un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 05:34 AM |
| 3 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themNo, I really didn’t. I’ve always been that way. It’s inbuilt - I’ve always loved to exercise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 03:41 AM |
| 0 | Is FDS actually for women that have terrible taste in men or otherwise have low standards.People are telling their worst cautionary tales to illustrate a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 03:40 AM |
| 11 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themFirstly, it does not matter whether someone worked hard for something or not. Charming people are often naturally charming - they’re still offering charm. Wealthy people are often born wealthy - they’re still offering wealth. Secondly, almost everyone ‘works’ for or on their looks in some way. Women exercise in different ways to men (group classes vs free weights, running and yoga and pilates vs lifting and basketball) and the multi billion dollar beauty industry is primarily patronised by women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 03:33 AM |
| 3 | CMV: "Looks" aren't something that people "offer" unless they actually worked for, or put in some considerable effort to obtain themEh. I want to work out all the time and feel weird when I don’t. Working out makes me happy - it’s something that it is hard for me not to do. Some people enjoy exercising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 03:29 AM |
| 3 | What type of negging works best for you/on you?Lol this would just make me think a guy was running some kind of game. What man cares where my fucking handbag is from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 07:02 AM |
| 1 | The majority of woman prefer men who do white collar work to blue, sometimes regardless of income.I am super open to a tradie and do find many of them attractive and masculine, but have yet to feel the ‘click’ with one. Same deal with most of my white collar, female friends in Aus. I think it’s more of a general compatibility thing than white collar vs blue collar being a hard standard - but I do notice that people tend to marry those who are ‘similar’ to them by and large. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:02 AM |
| -1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Lol they’re not normies. They’re angry men. The tag is small. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 10:00 PM |
| 2 | If all women wore a burqa, men would not stop staring, but that is a bad argument for women who dress in revealing clothingMen leered at me the most in my private girls’ school uniform. Pretty covered up. I’ve been on nudist beaches and not been leered at. Really more to do with men’s self control vs what women are wearing. Plenty of men leer at me when I’m wearing such revealing outfits as jeans and a t-shirt and gym clothes. Also, it’s hot where I live, fuck off if you think I’m going to stop wearing shorts in summer because creeps have no self control. I’d rather just loudly shame men who behave like this - being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 06:44 AM |
| -2 | What are your worst rejection stories?My first boyfriend used to go on and on about wanting to have sex with me when he was drunk and then he’d just fall asleep as soon as we got home. I hated it. I went home with a drunk famous man once and he ended up just wanting to cuddle and talk about how I could be his muse or something, because I was ‘too sweet’ and we’d need to see each other again/go on dates. It was entirely disappointing. A guy I was wildly in love with moved overseas and went entirely dead/ghosted me completely for a so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 06:30 AM |
| -1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Haven’t seen it anywhere. Must be who you follow lol. Checked out the tag and it’s relatively small. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Okay - why not just date religious/conservative people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Do women actually want to be sexually objectified?Those women are generally making money out of doing that. It’s not just because they loooove being objectified lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?How old are you? Just date religious/conservative people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Yeah, I agree with this take. The only time ‘sexual history’ ever came up for me is when I was a virgin and wanted my partner to approach sex with me knowing that. Other than that I have never discussed my n count. I think this is pretty typical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?I don’t think people do that intentionally tho. Like my first boyfriend was surprised and confused that I was a virgin. This hasn’t come up for me in years and years because I am a little bit older and nearly everyone has slept around at this point (in my social circle anyway), so nobody cares. But if you don’t want to date people who have slept around just don’t do it. It’s a choice you can make - they don’t have to make that choice for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:07 PM |
| 7 | What are the reasons why there seems to be such a disparity in “emotional labor” between men and women? Are women operating in covert contracts and expecting men to do things they were never conditioned to agree to?Yes! This idea keeps coming up that ‘historically’ absolutely everybody was raised in some typical 50s style nuclear family unit. Maybe the education system really is failing men lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:04 PM |
| 4 | What are the reasons why there seems to be such a disparity in “emotional labor” between men and women? Are women operating in covert contracts and expecting men to do things they were never conditioned to agree to?Yeah all of these alternate versions of history are getting old. I think you’re right and it might be because a lot of posters are from overseas/non-Western cultural contexts and are just making things up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Eh. My best male friend had the same experience with his second girlfriend. He got over it and they had a great, loving relationship until she moved overseas. I think it’s actually high disgust/high neuroticism rather than men vs women for this one. You’ll notice lots of women here are saying they also absolutely would never consider dating someone with a high n count - it’s individual and personality based imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Is it a trend? Where? I’ve literally never heard that before lol. As I said - I am not talking about manosphere types. I suppose you think you know my friends better than I do via telepathy or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Eh. I don’t think it matters too much tbh - I got over it with that first boyfriend and we had a beautiful, loving relationship. It only mattered for the 2 or so months that I made/let it matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Sure, most of the men I know do want women with an n count close to their own, though. I think the whole manwhores who want virgins thing is really overstated/an overrepresented demographic on the manosphere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 01:16 PM |
| 3 | Does the count matter for both men and women?Men and women both want someone with an n-count close-ish to theirs. It matters for both genders if one partner has slept around significantly more. If a guy has slept with 40+ people I’d be a bit wary, but I don’t generally talk about n count and I don’t think most people do. My first boyfriend, whom I lost my virginity to (and this is the only reason why n count specifically came up as a discussion), had slept with 9 people when we were 18. I hated it at the time because it made me feel insecu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 08:16 AM |
| 16 | Help me understand the psychology of why some women feel so "violated" when they catch men checking them out in public?Apparently it’s absolutely unfathomable lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 06:00 AM |
| 16 | Help me understand the psychology of why some women feel so "violated" when they catch men checking them out in public?They are no longer just thoughts if they are obvious from your facial expression or how long you stare. If they were just thoughts the women would be none the wiser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:59 AM |
| 4 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?Lol abolished how? Laws should be passed to end monogamy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:56 AM |
| 5 | Is monogamy a lie/doomed to failure?She did. It’s a core value to a lot of people who are able to make intentional decisions, rather than acting on base animal instinct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:55 AM |
| 1 | What is it about a man that makes a woman want to sleep with him in such a short period of time?Nothing would work for me, probably. I’ve technically had one ONS, in pretty unusual circumstances. I was high and the whole thing was fun - it had nothing to do with the man and everything to do with the circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What would you think if you found out that your husband or your partner chose you because he considers you as a nice breeding specimen?I’d think he was not mentally well adjusted and dump him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 11:12 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about the rising popularity of androgynous men? Why do many men believe that masculinity will make them more attractive?Amongst teens and women in their early twenties pretty boys have always been the most attractive. This is not new. Teen idols like Justin Bieber and Timothee Chalamet aren’t hyper masculine. Women’s preferences tend to change over time - I liked pretty boys in my late teens and early twenties and now I like quite masculine men. Pretty normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 11:10 PM |
| 2 | What's the bare minimum for you in a boyfriend?Hot (to me this means tall, physically fit, good facial features, usually dark haired, masculine demeanour). Stable job, well-educated, well-adjusted (usually means at least degree level. Open to a tradesperson with a good education and similar values, but I do find we tend not to ‘gel’). In my rough age range - cannot be older than 33, cannot be younger than 25. Similar values - politically liberal, agnostic or atheist (but not hardcore), healthy diet and enjoys exercise, preferably an athlete … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/20 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?It’s because those men view the whole thing as transactional and that’s also a red flag. They’re dating with the intent of getting laid and are upset when there are barriers to that. They think they’re being objectified because they are objectifying the woman they are with and they don’t want that to be a two way street. It’s why these men keep saying “But if I pay then you’re a prostitute!” It’s a complete and total failure to understand the ‘gift economy’, generosity and engendering goodwill. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYou’re just rambling about your own feelings using analogies. Your fee fees are not an argument. Keep going, princess. I expect your next analogy to be about make up lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYou have to make an argument for someone to make a counter argument, sugar tits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsLmao. You didn’t make an ‘argument’. Hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 02:22 AM |
| 4 | Do you find people are more flirty when one or more are in established relationships?Disagree but notice how flirting is in quotation marks? This is not actual flirting. It’s just being more relaxed around someone/not being deliberately unfriendly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsLol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 02:19 AM |
| 0 | Do women lie more than men?Lol I’ll be married by then. Try harder. Splat hahaha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Do women lie more than men?Lol. Yes, all those low n pure women you’re dating - and yet you’re so worried they’re lying to you about their wild sexual past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/20 12:01 AM |
| -1 | Do women lie more than men?Lol. The boyfriend I had when I was 19-22 proposed to me and so did the boyfriend I had from 24-27. Had I known him when I was 19, I definitely would have dated the guy I’m seeing now. I’ve got no interested in settling down with some nerdy late bloomer who didn’t have a youth. I’ll settle down with a hot guy, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:59 PM |
| 0 | Do women lie more than men?But it’s not AF/BB. I’m dating the same types of guys I dated when I was 19-24. We just all have jobs and houses now. No one is ‘stable’ at 19. So 19yos don’t date stable people. The boyfriend I had when I was 19 was a broke-ish musician who was living on his parents’ money at 19. He’s now a successful musician who is stable. The man I am seeing now was a broke, slightly wild DJ/athlete when he was 19. He’s stable now. I was a broke, borderline trustafarian in my late teens and early twenties. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Do women lie more than men?No one does this, Jesus. Surely these people are just imagining relationships rather than actually saying these things in them. Absolutely bizarre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Do women lie more than men?None of your business is not lying. If you’re unhappy with that answer and think it is your business, you should break up with that person because you’re incompatible. That person is correct. Men and women both explore when they are young lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Do women lie more than men?No. It’s communicating indirectly. Unless the person is on the spectrum or in denial they shouldn’t have any misconceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Yeah - I mean absolutely it really just depends on the person and the relationship. I am rarely not in the mood but when I’m not in the mood sex is totally revolting to me lol. It’s got zero to do with my beta bucks, but yeah I can see an angry TRPer chiming in with that soon haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.When predicting what? In what context was this looked at? Madonna/whore is not about data science it’s about psychoanalytics. You’re looking at it from the wrong field/perspective and clearly know nothing about it and its origins. Cultural relativism is ‘disproved’ in philosophy but not in anthropology for example. Also nice one “I’m an economics professor no I’m a data scientist” - very believable appeal to authority hahaha. I challenge you to provide sources that it’s debunked in psychology. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 11:04 PM |
| 0 | Do women lie more than men?No, men lie more. Women often communicate indirectly but they’re not lying per se. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 09:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Having sex when not in the mood feels pretty revolting for a lot of people. If I don’t want to have sex, I don’t want to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 09:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Economics and psychology are not the same field. Irrelevant. Madonna/whore is not a thing in economics, agree lmao. But you know, you started off saying that it was originally a literary trope and have now done a 180 to keep defending your position. Good larping abt being an economics professor tho haha. Madonna/whore is very much still a thing in psychology - it was never ‘debunked’. It’s just not a formal diagnosis lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 09:22 PM |
| 0 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsI don’t think you know what bangmaid means lol. Unless your FWB and ONS are making you a sammich they are not bangmaids lmao. Unless you expect them to make you a sammich and clean your house - you don’t view them as bangmaids. Men and women cheat at roughly the same rates if you’re looking at younger people btw. Most FWB are friends. They go out and do things beyond sex together lol. This all sounds like what someone who doesn’t have sex thinks about NSA sex tbh. Your shopping analogy doesn’t w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsLol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Do you find people are more flirty when one or more are in established relationships?That’s how women communicate naturally. We all touch our female friends pretty causally. Men don’t touch each other so they think this is always flirting. And it is flirting/does have intent when men do it - which is what makes it inappropriate. I know some touchy feely men and it’s clear they’re just that way - but it’s a tiny fraction of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYou already said what you think on this topic - it’s what the initial poster thought. You said that by replying to my comment disagreeing, saying that if I disagreed I didn’t know how guys think. Anyway, I don’t really care how you think so it’s neither here nor there. We disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.It’s a literary trope but also common in psychological texts. So yes, scientific and sociological literature - not just Shakespeare lol. It’s quite well studied in psychology and has never been ‘discarded’ lol. Unlike ‘the hero’ and ‘the dragon’ lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYes, exactly. Because other men don’t think like you lol. What’s your point? Lots of men on the internet would like to use women as bangmaids? I know. I’m talking about well adjusted people tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Yes, I always politely reach for my wallet. Past date 5, I will say “Are you sure you wouldn’t like me to get this time?” or some variation thereof. I probably wouldn’t have held it against him past the first few dates - if you ask me to split or expect me to pay on dates 1-3, I won’t go out with you again. Past that it depends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.It is apparent to many other people. That’s why there is a huge body of literature about it. The people who wrote about it were observing it in real life. Your anecdata is the outlier not mine lol. Feel free to tell me in what contexts it’s been discarded. I’m aware that it’s not considered an official diagnosis - that does not mean it’s not an observable mindset. You missed the point of my comment btw. Your comments were all about your personal view until now. This one is about how I can’t make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:38 PM |
| 9 | Do you find people are more flirty when one or more are in established relationships?It’s more comfortable and harmless to ‘flirt’ when you’re in a relationship. I’m a naturally friendly person with an expressive face. Men always think I’m flirting if I’m myself, so I tend to be extremely guarded around men. Unless he’s taken and I’m taken - then there’s less danger he’ll misread me and I’ll just relax a bit and be myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?I think some men project that women are as into them as they are in the early stages of dating. We are not. I have never been as ‘into’ the guys I was dating on date 1 as they were into me. Not at 19 and not now. I’ve spoken to a lot of women and it’s always the same - the initial period of dating you’re trying to figure out whether you like the person at all. It’s been this way with all of my boyfriends, actually. Men I ended up being in love with - because they persuaded me it was worth spendi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Depends on the dates and the dynamic (I insist on paying if I have no intention of seeing a man again, whether it’s date 1 or date 3) - it makes a better impression if he continues to offer for a while. Past date 3 I don’t care too much about taking things in turns. I don’t tend to ‘split’ even with my friends, unless it’s a big group and it would be too complex for someone to just get next time. It seems miserly to me. I think the guy I’m currently dating insisted on covering everything the fir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.You haven’t made any arguments, just talked about what you’ve seen and experienced. My anecdata is different from your anecdata. The fact that my anecdata exists disproves your argument that the Madonna/whore theory simply does not exist in real life. However, your response to my anecdata amounted to “well I still haven’t seen it!” Okay. Not much left to debate. You’re not making any points lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Nope. I’m not having sex with anyone in exchange for a $10 drink (lmao how ridiculous) so in no way, shape or form is it prostitution. It’s just a nice gesture and demonstrates that the man is generous. It’s not transactional at all imo - it’s part of the gift economy. It’s like bringing a bottle of wine when you go to a dinner party as a nice gesture. Or buying someone a present for their birthday. Or shouting a friend a drink or meal when they’re having a bad day or you haven’t seen them in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?No. Just sounds like an incomplete story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Like I said, sounds like you’re leaving out a whole lot, but okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRslol pretty sure ONS don’t usually make you a sammich and clean your house, but okay. I’m the one who needs to get out and talk to more people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 08:53 AM |
| 10 | Why is /r/adultery predominantly filled with women on a male-dominated sub? Are more women cheating on their spouses than men, and are just less likely to admit to it on surveys?Lol there’s literally a guy in this comment thread justifying it by saying it’s ‘muh biology’ and then this guy is here accusing you of projecting. They’re too funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?So she expected quality time and a gift on special occasions? Those are not favours. That’s just treating your partner like you like them lol. How did this look in practice? She’d say “you haven’t bought me a gift this month, no sex for you”? Sounds like you’re leaving a whole lot out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 04:02 AM |
| 2 | Why is /r/adultery predominantly filled with women on a male-dominated sub? Are more women cheating on their spouses than men, and are just less likely to admit to it on surveys?Yeah, I think most people who cheat know cheating is wrong but justify it when they do it. The nonchalance about the whole thing in this post “lol had emotional affairs for fun” is a bit unusual. It’s possible OP is leaving things out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 03:57 AM |
| 10 | Why is /r/adultery predominantly filled with women on a male-dominated sub? Are more women cheating on their spouses than men, and are just less likely to admit to it on surveys?Illogical. Jobs don’t fall from the sky so I have to constantly job hop and collect as many as I can. See - makes no sense? You’re not animals. Control yourselves. If you want to claim to be nothing more than an animal acting on impulse, expect to be treated like you’re subhuman because you’re admitting that you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?What ‘favours’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 03:14 AM |
| -2 | Why is /r/adultery predominantly filled with women on a male-dominated sub? Are more women cheating on their spouses than men, and are just less likely to admit to it on surveys?I can’t imagine being so nonchalant about it unless it’s an accepted part of the relationship tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Okay, no one is “Chad” to me - I haven’t felt this way about any man. But what is/isn’t attractive is really not that subjective. All my boyfriends have been confident, high n-count according to PPD, very good looking, tall, high income, exceptionally fit etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Yes, it’s the same in long term relationships, including marriages. People don’t have sex because you do them favours lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?No, I don’t expect anything at all. That’s why I always reach for my wallet. But if a man offers to pay I read it as a sign of appreciation and a generous mindset - which is something I look for in a partner or even a FWB. If he doesn’t offer to pay it just means we’re not compatible and there will be no date 2. That’s it. Why would I do that? It’s completely bizarre “Just FYI I don’t like you as much as you like me lol”. What would this achieve other than making me look like I’m on the spectrum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:47 AM |
| 11 | Why is /r/adultery predominantly filled with women on a male-dominated sub? Are more women cheating on their spouses than men, and are just less likely to admit to it on surveys?I’m not sure men take responsibility for cheating and never lie about it and understand its wrong. It used to just be the expectation that men would cheat and have mistresses. Maybe the women know their partners are also cheating? Maybe the boundaries in their relationship are ‘monogamish’? Can’t say I get it. Cheating is wrong. If I want to cheat on a partner it means the relationship is over and it’s time to end things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Okay, you don’t see it, I see it. I guess that’s the end of this discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:24 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Eh. All of my long term boyfriends have been Chad based on what the posters here keep saying. Still made them wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Who offers sex for favours? I offer sex because I like someone and I feel like having sex. It’s not like you do enough favours for me and I’ll sleep with you wtf. Who withholds sex because someone hasn’t done them a favour? This is all warped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:20 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Seen it time and time again in real life. Dead bedrooms is full of men who won’t fuck their Madonna wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:10 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Lol, I don’t care if men want to split, I always reach for my wallet. I just don’t see that man again - I think it’s not generous, that’s all. I’m 28. I’ve only found that more and more men want to cover the bill as I have gone from early to mid and now late twenties. I’m not going to be as initially excited to spend time with someone I don’t know. Women don’t have the same visceral visual response to people that men do. The men I go on dates with want my time because they think I’m hot. I think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:05 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?You can invest in something without it being transactional lol. I meant emotional investment not financial investment - as stated several times it is about the gesture and the generosity not the money. I invest time and effort into my hobbies without expecting anything in return. Parents invest in their children. I invest in my friends etc. Investment just demonstrates that the person cares about the interaction - it doesn’t mean the interaction becomes transactional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?It’s how most men and most women see it. It’s not about the money - it’s about the gesture. It’s giving someone a gift or doing them a favour to show you like them and appreciate them giving you their time. Men who don’t pay on first dates are the equivalent of people who show up to a dinner party empty handed imo (you should bring a bottle of wine, cheese, dessert as a nice gesture or a gift. Also not about the money involved). It’s just ungenerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?I don’t ask for anything. Men give - as a gesture, a show of generosity, a gift. If a man asks to split I will split. I will politely reach for my wallet etc. The vast majority of men prefer to pay at least initially. I’m not running a service business because I let men pay for me on dates lmao. I’m accepting a gift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 01:35 AM |
| 4 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Lol if that’s how you view it. Seems like you have a very transactional view of sex and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 01:31 AM |
| 4 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Because he might persuade me that spending more time with him is a good idea. That’s how all of my relationships have begun. Men pursue women in the early stages of dating. Women are not equally invested, sorry. That’s why men ask women out and not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 01:22 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?So? People can do that once and then not do it again. ONS are more about circumstance and curiosity than someone’s standard behaviour or a man’s attractiveness lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 01:12 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?But...if women are doing FDS all that knowledge won’t matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?So? You’re likely going for a particular type of woman because you like having casual sex and come on particularly strong. The people who don’t want that will just eliminate you. I’ve made FWB wait months lol. It’s all variable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:55 AM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Why do some of you BP believe "nature doesn't matter?"Lol the philosophy part - ironic since that’s the other poster’s justification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:51 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Actually I do something pretty similar to FDS when I’m looking for a FWB, too. I just have slightly lower standards in terms of appearance, lifestyle/goal alignment etc. It’s still important to have boundaries, not have sex before you’re comfortable and establish mutual respect and chemistry when you’re looking for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Because it won’t work any more. What’s the point of a tool that doesn’t work? I don’t think there’s anything particularly unique about RP advice in terms of self improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:46 AM |
| 4 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Lol no - a man who specifically asked me to be generous by spending time with him is not being generous by spending time with me. I could go on a date with literally anyone else. I could stay at home and read a book and am more likely to have a good time - he asked me out, he wanted me to come, I am being generous by spending time with him. It shows investment because it’s a display of generosity and a favour of sorts. Same as it shows investment to properly plan a date. The cost of the drink do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:43 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men respect women who use sex as a bargaining chip.Only men with Madonna/whore complexes. A lot of men wouldn’t be able to respect their wives if they weren’t frigid. A lot of men view women they sleep with as sexual objects rather than sexual beings and obviously it’s hard to fathom being in a long term, loving and respecting relationship with an object. These are generally high disgust, overly neurotic men. Well adjusted men prefer women who have healthy boundaries around sex - ie who don’t have sex when they’re not yet comfortable just becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:38 AM |
| 4 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?I make well over six figures and am turned off when men ask to split the bill on first dates. Only a very small fraction of men ask and I will split and then say no to a second date. It’s just a gesture - it shows investment, generosity and appreciation of my time because they are always the ones who have asked me out. It has nothing to do with whether or not I can afford a $10 drink lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: Why do some of you BP believe "nature doesn't matter?"The appearance of many thoughts is a conscious act tho. This is how people do focused professional or academic work. Thoughts don’t come out of the blue - they are often responses to the environment, chosen reflections etc and they can absolutely be directed. The poster you’re replying to appears to be choosing to be deliberately obtuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Q4A: At a time like this, would you rather raise a daughter or a son?Yep and it’s not even just Chad. Professional life for example is easier for all men. An ugly man may have a difficult time but an equivalently ugly woman will have a much more difficult time. Beyond a certain threshold of attractiveness women’s good looks actually come with disadvantages in professional spheres, the same cannot be said for men. ‘Good’ academic performance is a lower bar for men because they mostly underachieve. Competence in most areas is assumed and does not need to be proven … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:11 AM |
| 1 | When and why did the FWB label become more popularised?Yes, this. All of my FWBs have been nice guys, but not guys I would ever date seriously, bring home to my family etc. Not embarrassing per se - but just not people with whom there was any long term compatibility beyond sex and friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:04 AM |
| 2 | When and why did the FWB label become more popularised?This is projection. You’re just assuming people are lying so that things fit your worldview. I have been the one to say ‘no, I don’t want to move this further into relationship territory’ to every single FWB I’ve had. I’m a woman. Tell me how I got fuckzoned and am just denying it by pretending I wasn’t looking for a relationship at the time lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/20 12:02 AM |
| 8 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?FDS isn’t niche. The number of people who would say they are using FDS might be niche but the strategy itself is very natural for lots of women. Most women are implementing a variation of FDS when they want a relationship. It’s really just ‘have boundaries’ and ‘move on when it seems like he’s just not that into you’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 11:58 PM |
| 4 | Say we get to a point in society where the majority of men follow RP, and the majority of women follow FDS. What would happen?Men will just play along with FDS and give up on TRP. It won’t happen, though. There will always be vulnerable women - FDS really just seems to be about building and enforcing boundaries and standards for those who are too willing or quick to compromise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 11:56 PM |
| 3 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulYes, but the thing is, when you interpret that as someone being ‘needlessly defensive’ - you are trying to decide what their boundaries should be for them. You don’t get to decide their boundaries. They do. So demanding a further, detailed explanation is boundary pushing. Everyone is allowed to have their own boundaries, as you said. People are allowed to not want to help you self improve by critiquing your dating performance lol. Not giving you detailed feedback is not and never will be ‘not tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 12:21 PM |
| 3 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulThe person has communicated what they want - to not see you any more for the reason that they are simply not feeling it. They don’t owe you more than that. It’s selfish and entitled to demand other people assist you to improve/do favours for you for no reason. You don’t understand what basic respect is. You think it means people catering to you and your needs all the time lol. This is not hypocritical of me. As I said before I don’t expect other people to give me reasons, either. I would conside… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 09:10 AM |
| 6 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulWell, I don’t expect other people to give me detailed reasons for why they don’t want to date me...It’s not their responsibility. I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all lol. I think it’s demanding and entitled to expect other people who aren’t invested in you and don’t want to see you again help you improve or whatever else. No one is invested in you enough after a few dates. It’s not a relationship - they owe you nothing. It’s pretty courteous and respectful to not just ghost you at that point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 06:19 AM |
| 5 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulI still wouldn’t tell them. Men usually get angry when you reject them and try to argue with you if you justify yourself - vague booking it is the path of least resistance. It’s not my job to nurture/help some man I’m not interested in seeing ever again. Especially not if doing so has the potential to be unpleasant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 05:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulNo I wouldn’t tell them. It’s not my job to help them correct their physical and personality flaws - I’m not invested in them and I’m not going to waste my energy on it. A lot of the time there is genuinely no reason - that’s my point. I was a little bit bored because we didn’t click. I liked that guy I went out with last week a whole lot more - but there was nothing wrong with this guy etc. Our goals aren’t aligned. Even if I’m looking for a FWB I vet pretty hard for the kind of man who is goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 04:59 AM |
| 4 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulBut...there is nothing wrong with that person. I just didn’t feel it a lot of the time. I’m not talking about when someone is off putting in some way or when they behave like a woman and rule themselves out. Sometimes people just don’t ‘click’ and it’s no one’s fault. You might get told this a lot because...it would be weird if you were soulmate level compatible with everyone. 90% of people I go on first dates with I don’t want to see again. Of that number, maybe 40% have done something that gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 04:17 AM |
| 1 | The difference between a girlfriend/boyfriend and a friend is NOT just sex.Eh. My best friend knows everything about me that my partners do and then some. We own property together, have travelled together, lived together etc. Frankly, I have found her to be more of a constant and reliable pillar of support over the last 16 years than any romantic partner of mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 04:11 AM |
| 4 | CMV: I think that most people who say "They just weren't the right person for me/you" are purposely ignoring issues related to rejection and it isn't very helpfulBut...sometimes it just isn’t the right fit. I’ve said no to plenty of men who were doing nothing wrong. It just wasn’t the right fit. Those men would be perfect for other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 03:51 AM |
| 8 | How true do you think the following quote is?:I agree with this quote - it accurately describes men who are incapable of viewing women as people like themselves. And that’s a lot of men. I think a lot of men are really obsessed with other men and there is often a bit of homeroticism there. But there are also men who are very capable of respecting women, learning from women, admiring women etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 02:26 AM |
| 8 | Does PPD improve your relationships?Not so far, no. I haven’t gotten any amazing insights out of reading this sub. I think FDS would be more useful if I were a more naive/‘nice’ personality - but I’ve always been pretty assertive and ready to drop men, so it’s kind of what I do naturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many men find women boring here?Conversely, the people I know who are semi-professional comedians tend to be obnoxious and attention seeking in every day conversation rather than quick witted. Context matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/20 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesNo. It’s relevant - why are you making all of these assumptions about how this hypothetical woman has funded her travel? Seems like a whole lot of projection to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesWhy are you assuming she’s a barista? Based on what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Not all lower class people or blue collar people are bogans! Bogan is just a particular way of behaving - it is class based but it is also a lot more complex than income and white collar/blue collar. So everything you’re saying is just further indication that there is no one people mentality lol. It’s a nice idea, but there are always fault lines and hyphenated identities. As I said above, Australia is very community minded and most people do identify as Aussies first (but a lot of people in cer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesBut...wanting to seem cultured and worldly will eliminate men who think that kind of woman is high maintenance. It’s still weeding people out. There’s like one comment from a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Not really. My parents married late, they’re both educated, they dated for a long time before they got married etc. My long term relationships have been similar to theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Yes. My parents are 100% about each other over thirty years later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Nope. Being married to someone you’re not 100% about will make you unhappy. Better to stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.If I meet the right guy, sure. Otherwise I might just adopt in my late thirties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.One I was too young, the other I fell out of love. Nothing was wrong with them - both great guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Eh. I don’t think this is that unusual. Lots of women turn down their long term boyfriends - sometimes he’s a great guy but the relationship just isn’t right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsLmao I should have known better than to mess with an intellect like yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:39 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.No I am not single at the moment. Both of my long term boyfriends wanted to marry me and I said no. None of the men I have seriously dated have ever dated uneducated women before or after me - I believe it has helped me to attract the kind of man I am interested in, yes. My boyfriends have shown normal levels of in my job - more than a smile and nod, but honestly talking about work is boring, I don’t really care about the day to day details of my partners’ jobs, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.I’m 28, as well. And yes, I am educated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.No as I said I was just curious. Your take just doesn’t really dovetail with my experiences or with statistics as pointed out by another poster. I was wondering if it might be a cultural or class differences thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.I didn’t ask for your height or your rating out of 10, but okay, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:08 AM |
| 2 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Lol good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Also are you Western or are you from overseas/a migrant? What is your education? What is your class? I’m just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:54 AM |
| 2 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.It’s also a massive lifestyle hit. A dual income household is in a much better financial position than a single income household, generally speaking. Most men I know don’t hate women who are feminists or have any particular desire for a pliant partner. Most people prefer partners who are somewhat similar to themselves. When you say educated, what do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:48 AM |
| 0 | Being valued solely on your looks as a woman sucks, even if you are very attractive. Men do not have it harder when it comes to how they are valued in society.Are you educated yourself and how old are you? I’m always curious about the people who say this online. All of the men I know very much care and are open about looking for similar levels of education and/or earning potential in a long term partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesMen and women don’t have the same experience OLD, sure. But you don’t know what women’s intent is when they write their profiles - women are better placed to judge that lol. You’re just assuming ‘she wrote she likes to travel because she’s a luxury whore who wants to class signal omg’ when she might just be...vetting for men who are on the same page as her. The other people on this thread who agree with you are men who struggle with dating. Not the best source of info on women and their behaviou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:28 AM |
| 3 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsNSA sex does not mean a bangmaid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many dudes see sex as the best thing in the relationship, and other aspects as secondary or boring?They’re men who don’t like women and refuse to engage with them for any other reason. They see themselves as trapped in the relationship because it’s the lesser of two evils. It’s shack up with this chick or remain sexless. It’s a minority of men who think this way, usually people who have an unhealthy attachment style and issues with misogyny (and usually their mothers - this is what mommy issues looks like in men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:17 AM |
| 4 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsIncorrect. You need to get out more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYou’re not fluent in sarcasm, clearly. I was mocking him. His original comment is illogical even accounting for context - but you keep that hamster spinning trying to justify him lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 10:13 AM |
| 3 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsHis point is that there is literally nothing he can say that isn’t misogynistic. Patently untrue. Wanting a woman to be a bangmaid is misogynistic, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: At a time like this, would you rather raise a daughter or a son?Would prefer to have a son - the bar is so low for men he is almost guaranteed to have a successful, pleasant life just by virtue of being born into a relatively stable, privileged home. Life’s a bit harder for women, but I wouldn’t hate having a girl either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 06:19 AM |
| 2 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesAgree - it can definitely be done in an obnoxious way. I think it’s the way people use social media tho. Generally the obnoxious travel people are also just obnoxious in general on Facebook/insta/what have you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Why do you think calling me a lawyer is going to insult me? It’s not a slur lmao - it’s not going to insult me. I don’t really care to discuss any of this with you in detail because I think you sound like a conspiracy theorist, most of what you’re saying is addled and confused and demonstrates a poor understanding of how institutional power operates. The police are an institution, yes. They are not a feminist institution and it is patently ridiculous to try and say they are. I just thought it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYeah that makes sense. The sex trafficking as gender equality stuff is wild. Wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 02:12 AM |
| 2 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYeah I can totally understand not liking it - it’s not everyone’s thing. But a lot of people in this thread seem to find it incredibly obnoxious that other people do like it. Or can’t fathom why anyone wouldn’t see it as a total waste of time. That’s what’s throwing me off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesIt’s fine, though - you pay it back over time. If you’re making $250k/year you really can’t say you’re poor even if you have some debt. Your debt to income ratio is likely pretty good unless you really fucked up, took out insane loans or have no idea how to budget. If you value it, you can definitely still travel. I don’t have any debt tho & I am aware that is a very privileged position to be in. But even if I had paid for law school - I would still have significant disposable income at this poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYes, exactly! Even domestic tourism can expose you to different cultures and experiences. I didn’t realise so many people had such a distaste for seeing other places/parts of the world lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYeah the idea that the only way a woman could possibly travel was to be an escort really gave me a laugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:46 AM |
| 0 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesI’m doing fine - plenty of disposable income to travel. I think doctors and lawyers really overplay how difficult they have it on the internet lol. Most of us are on six figure incomes relatively early on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesMost middle class and above people have leave. Travelling is no longer incredibly expensive. I think people are just trying to indicate they’re interested in adventure/don’t like to stay in one place particularly often for the most part - but it can be done in an obnoxious way, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesSo...you’ve never travelled but you know exactly what travelling is like and how you would react to it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:41 AM |
| 5 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYeah, seriously. All these people talking about how boring travelling is and how everywhere is the same in this thread... So odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesIs it obviously not? Why is your take on women’s approach - based entirely on your own conjecture - superior to what an actual woman is telling you about how she and other women approach this? I do the same thing. My profiles have always been designed to weed people out, not draw people in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 01:39 AM |
| 8 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesThat’s...still a hobby. It’s just not a hobby you like. I think video games are so boring and worthless but playing them is still a hobby. It’s still something that people are doing in their leisure time for pleasure - if they’re doing it regularly and intentionally it’s a hobby. Europe, America, Aus are also quite culturally different, especially outside of major cities. Alabama is nothing like Tuscany. The Northern Territory is nothing like NYC etc. You can travel domestically in all of those … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/20 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?I think it’s noticeable that posters from conservative areas of the US really dig their heels in on how hard it is and what women are like - they just live in a place where the attitude towards casual sex is very different. And they tend to think everyone gets married by like 24 or something. It’s entirely foreign to me - but it statistically checks out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:54 PM |
| 10 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsLol you are confused about what you could possssibly say that wouldn’t be considered misogynistic. So grown up! So mature! You’re a real adult :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:45 PM |
| 13 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsI’m just mildly amused - you’ll have to try harder if you want me to go off, princess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:35 PM |
| 7 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesYeah, this is exactly what I have always thought those kinds of profiles were. It’s not economic signalling at all imo. It’s interest/lifestyle signalling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesWhy would travelling not pass as a hobby? It broadly meets the definition - something done in your leisure time/for pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:29 PM |
| 5 | Traveling brags in women's dating profilesPeople who travel a lot often like to date other people who travel a lot ime, especially if they’re the nomad type who has been to 50+ countries. Not everyone is trying to fast track a house with a picket fence and two kids by the age of thirty. Lots of people prefer to see the world, even if it does make them a bit less stable. It might not matter to you but it will matter to the kind of man she wants to attract. None of my LTRs would have dated a woman who wasn’t reasonably well travelled or w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:26 PM |
| 40 | Women don't appreciate the value of sex since its so readily available to them. That's why they will never understands mens obsession with avoiding high N count women for LTRsYes. The only way to not be considered misogynistic is to say you only want women for sex. So logical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?You said enshrined and institutional in your initial post. It does not meet the relevant dictionary definition. Enshrined has a specific meaning in a legal/government context. The police also aren’t ‘institutional feminists’ no matter how much you pretend they are lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?No, that’s just what enshrined means. It means made permanent - usually via legislation or codification. It doesn’t refer to soft social policy that is subject to flux, the ideology of the government of the day etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Most guys in college are reasonable looking, privileged and living a party lifestyle. Or they could be if they wanted to be - if you’re a prude or a shut in, that’s kind of on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Eh. My friends are not manwhores or Chads imo. Most of them have also been in long term relationships in their twenties - no one has ever been that commitment phobic. These aren’t guys who are really trying to sleep around. It’s people who are just doing what they want when the opportunity arises. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?No. Enshrined means it’s solidified as permanent via legislation or codification. Best practices and policies are not enshrined - they are soft and subject to flux as said above. I am not playing semantics. I am using words to mean what they mean. You clearly don’t understand how governments work very well. Soft policy is not ‘enshrined’ anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:33 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Why are your ratings and the ratings of other ugly men ‘objective’? And my ratings are not? I am a woman. I fuck men. The men who get 6 ratings on true rate me are actually 2s very often - men do not know how attractive other men are or themselves. Objective value is best determined by the market. Your opinion about how people are getting over rated is just that - an opinion. Mine is also an opinion but it holds water in reality - because the men who are getting rated as 6s on true rate me are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Yes, you’re talking about policy which is soft. Policy is not institutional because it is subject to serious flux, discretion and ideology of bureaucratic decision makers etc. You were the one who used the word ‘enshrined’ initially. The Duluth model is not ‘enshrined’ anywhere - it’s just thought of as best practice. You keep saying it’s not a conspiracy theory lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Online dating. Friends of friends. I’m talking about normally attractive people - I thought Chad was supposed to super, super attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?They don’t view me as part of their in group, either. This is very common - there is no ‘one people’ mentality lol. It’s kind of sweet and naive that you think there is. Also not all lower class Aussies are bogans. I don’t think I’m a ‘tribal elitist’ - bogans just aren’t my people. People do not have a ‘one people’ mentality just because they live in the same country unless your definition of a one people mentality is simply an awareness of the geographic area you come from. Which it seems like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?You don’t have to live a party lifestyle to sleep with 5 people a year. You can meet people other ways. My best male friend goes out maybe once in a blue moon - still has what is considered a very high n count by this place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 12:28 PM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Yes, the Duluth model is still not an institution nor is it enshrined in any legislation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Eh. I see it time and time again - some awfully nerdy looking young man throwing himself at the prettiest girl in the room and then wondering why her standards are so high. All you have to do is look at true rate me to work out that men think of extremely beautiful women as ‘average’ and men who are far below average as well and truly above. The example you gave? Yes, it is unreasonable for a short man to think that fat women are beneath him - those traits are kind of equivalent in terms of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?No, I’m referring to my friends - I don’t know anyone else’s sexual history. It was very much a ‘friend group’ when I was in college, although now it has splintered into a smaller group and a bunch of individual people I keep up with outside of the main group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 12:21 PM |
| 3 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Young men are objectively more attractive than older men. 60% of men in the 20-24 age group are probably the top 20% of men overall. Shy and high standards/going for women who are too different to them is 100% why they’re not getting laid if they’re fit and young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:54 AM |
| 3 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Not this shy. Older generations of men did not expect women to approach them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:41 AM |
| 4 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?That’s because most young men are shy and don’t approach women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?No. It’s just not enshrined or institutionalised. You are discussing policy not institutions or legislation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:34 AM |
| 6 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?I mean most young, fit men in college are the top 20% of men overall? That’s when attractiveness peaks and you’re around tons of people of the opposite sex, go to lots of parties and have minimal responsibilities in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?🤮 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?The departments are government agencies, yes. The policy is not enshrined anywhere, however - you said you were speaking specifically to that which is institutionalised or enshrined. Government policy is generally not enshrined or representative of the institutions. Eh. Look up intersectional feminism - it sounds like you need to do more reading about what feminism is that wasn’t written by MRAs. I have a lot of my own problems with feminism but this take is just incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Lol I prefer to think independently rather than regurgitate opinions I read somewhere on the internet :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:04 AM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Yeah I agree it’s a fair observation - the OP is very generally worded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Yeah. I think it’s to do with different social circles and cultures, tho. PPD thinks I am promiscuous - but in my social circle people (including women) who have slept with less than 5 people are considered abnormally chaste. I’m considered perfectly average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 10:01 AM |
| 3 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?I don’t know - I think a lot of these guys are pretty normal looking. Definitely all ‘attractive’ but most of them are not model gorgeous or anything like that. Unless Chad just means ‘reasonably attractive young man’ - I’m not convinced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 09:59 AM |
| 3 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Well, no. I’m talking about people in my social circle - so people I am likely to know this information about. I am not friends with incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 09:58 AM |
| 2 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?I’m 28. Most of my male friends at university had slept with 15-20 people by the time they were around 21-22 (and most of them had a relationship of at least a year somewhere in their late teens and early twenties as well). And then most people slowed down a bit after they graduated. My male friends may very well be a Chad group, I don’t know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?It’s not enshrined in legislation or any governmental structure. It’s not institutional and it’s not hairsplitting. I’m not angry - I just know what words mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 09:52 AM |
| 3 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Oh yeah, across the general population, I think this is the case. But amongst college aged men/men in their twenties who are decent looking and don’t have moral issues with casual sex? Less sure. I think OP is (without specifying) talking about a particular subset of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Do you think it's okay, for you, to be friends with your ex, while you're in a relationship with another man?I think it really depends on the people involved, but it’s not for me. I think it’s disrespectful to your present relationship and it’s hard to focus on the future when you’re still engaging with the past. I keep in contact with some of my exes and we are friendly, but we are not friends. Being friends with an ex would be a red flag to me in a man as well. A catch up once every few years or whatever if they happen to bump into each other, a few messages exchanged when something reminds one of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:37 AM |
| 6 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?It’s also pretty easy to sleep with, say, 5 people a year when you’re single and don’t really have anything against casual sex. You only need to be single four years from your late teens to early twenties to hit that ‘promiscuous’ n count of twenty by the age of 30 that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotally: how common is promiscuity in modern men?Very common. I swear every man I know has slept with 20-50 people. Unless, like you said, they met The One while very young - which is not common in my social circle. Most people have had a mix of LTRs and flings throughout their twenties and men have less inhibition and less consequences for sleeping around - so they do it more than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Nope. Not an MRA either in any way, shape or form or at all sympathetic to men’s rights, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?What legislation is the Duluth model enshrined in? Exactly none. You are talking about soft social policy and ideology not laws and institutions. Family law codes are not ‘feminist’ per se. They generally prioritise the well-being of the child over the interests of the parent - but a lot of this is very dependent on jurisdiction. You sound like a classic conspiracy theorist who goes on and on about family courts and how they target men, while knowing very little about family courts in reality be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?What specific laws and aspects of government do you believe to be enshrined feminism? Feminism is an activist movement. It’s not enshrined in any legislation beyond anti-discrimination acts, which do not cover the kind of paternalistic ‘protect women using police’ type thing you were initially talking about. That is not enshrined anywhere. You’re describing the weaponisation of paternalistic ideas - not institutional structures and not even feminism. You seem confused and angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Lol how am I part of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Doesn’t change my point tbh even if you view it that way. The people who are oppressing you/controlling the narrative are really powerful men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?What sources are you describing as ‘institutional feminism’? Feminists in general are quite mistrustful of the police - who as an institution are known to frequently sexually abuse vulnerable women, dismiss women who claim about sexual assault etc. Who is ‘us’? Ugly men? Are you talking about black lives matter in some oblique way? I agree that powerful (mostly) white men often weaponise the ‘protecting women!’ line for their own ends. I also agree that feminism has had issues with the weaponisa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Women invented and promote "Rape Culture" as an idea because they like being victims and find the idea erotic.Plenty of men would opportunistically rape - strangers or acquaintances. This is why so many people have been raped. They’re not ‘hiding’ anywhere - they’re likely in plain sight. It’s not like people can tell you’re a rapist just by looking at you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Women invented and promote "Rape Culture" as an idea because they like being victims and find the idea erotic.But part of why this is the case is that most women do take those precautions. If women did walk around at night with no fear or thought for their safety, in dodgy areas etc you would likely see the incidences of stranger rape going up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Women invented and promote "Rape Culture" as an idea because they like being victims and find the idea erotic.No. Women do not find rape culture erotic lol. There’s nothing sexy about ‘rape culture’. Rape fantasy has nothing to do with actual rape and is not what ‘rape culture’ is referring to. You can want to be wanted without wanting to be raped. All of my partners have ‘wanted’ me - none of them have raped me. This is such a twisted take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Lol I just think it’s funny you need random people on the internet who don’t care to approve of your porn habits. This was never an argument, but sure tell yourself I ‘lost’ lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/20 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?I said you do you a long time ago. You keep deluding yourself that porn is full of mentally healthy women who choose to be there. I don’t care lol. And no, I don’t care doesn’t mean I don’t have sources or whatever else - it means I do not care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Yes, because I don’t care enough to lol. Privileged white women can also be mentally ill lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Stop asking someone who’s said they don’t care to provide you with sources. There are thousands of sources on this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 03:05 AM |
| 12 | Does red pill philosophy prey upon common female pathologies?Yep. They’re men who dislike women. They go for women who affirm their beliefs about women and who are easy to manipulate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?As I said, google is your friend. I do not care enough to educate you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:51 AM |
| 0 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Why would I? I don’t struggle to find people I want to date who meet my criteria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:50 AM |
| 3 | What is your response when a man you are attracted to pays you little mind?I think he doesn’t like me and move on. If it’s my boyfriend I’m like ‘what did I do? You’re cold’. But honestly if a boyfriend ignores me, I tend to lose respect for him. It’s very clearly a game and/or some kind of passive aggression - which to me always reads as feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:41 AM |
| 0 | Do people not realize how insulting it is to tell someone to wait until women are “settling down” to find one?Nobody has ever cared enough to ask me for a full, detailed account. As I said, I don’t date high disgust men. Neurotic men are not my type. But it’s not some secret that I’ve had casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?I think hentai is creepy af and if I knew about it - that would be a dealbreaker for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Actually I didn’t. You made the claim that everyone was making choices first and that most porn stars aren’t trafficked or mentally ill. Scroll up. I just said I thought porn was unethical. So, I’m waiting for your source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Do people not realize how insulting it is to tell someone to wait until women are “settling down” to find one?I haven’t found this. I have never struggled to get men I like to commit. I’m not interested in men who are high disgust in general, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Do you also use a lot of porn and/or masturbate a lot tho? I’ve been with circumcised men and it’s never been an issue - personal experience tells me this concern is overplayed, but who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Do people not realize how insulting it is to tell someone to wait until women are “settling down” to find one?Where are you from? Is your family extremely religious? Normal men really don’t care about women wearing jeans of all things - wow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Do people not realize how insulting it is to tell someone to wait until women are “settling down” to find one?Yes, exactly this! My standards are higher than when I was 17 and didn’t really know what I was looking for. The men I am choosing now are more ‘special’ than the ones I chose when I was very low n count/a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 08:20 AM |
| 3 | Do people not realize how insulting it is to tell someone to wait until women are “settling down” to find one?Men do the same thing? Everyone sleeps with other people before they’re ready to settle down. Barring the extremely religious and conservative nobody gets married at 19 and nobody waits until marriage. Are you extremely religious and conservative? If so, date other people like you. I don’t get the bitter rage about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?I don’t disagree. But in those movies Seth does not have cash or any kind of redeeming personal traits beyond being ‘funny’ in that I drink too much beer and am gross way (which is appealing to men not women tbh). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Well then stop blaming feminists and women. Rise up against Chad. The worst you all do is call men like that ‘assholes’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Where’s your source that they aren’t? We can both demand receipts. You’re the one who is upset other people have different ethical stances to you. I’ve said you do you already. Google is your friend. I don’t care enough to provide you with sources, in case that wasn’t already crystal clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?He’s very much below average for Hollywood and is average for real life. The women he gets together with in movies are average for Hollywood aka extremely beautiful. I don’t think men are very good at judging where other men sit so to speak - which is why I asked. I do see some couples where the guy is average and the woman is stunning in real life. The man almost always has a lot more money than the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 12:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?I was just doing stuff before. But if it makes you feel good to think you’ve struck a nerve, who am I to take that away from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?You didn’t lead me to any conclusion. I have always been aware that class is relevant. I am a borderline socialist. I’m not trying to convey humour. I’m laughing at you. Lol means laugh out loud - so it is apt for my purpose. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Do you have a source that it’s an empowering choice that isn’t obviously marketing? (A porn star or a porn site = necessary marketing). Plenty has been written about pathways to porn. Google is your friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?I was never talking about you, specifically. I was talking about the constant references to the feminist conspiracy around here and how absurd they are in my initial comment. You commented saying women were never oppressed by men and it’s all paranoia so I laughed at you - this is not an ‘argument’ hahaha. History books and reading comprehension - look into them. Seems like the only thing you’re good at is taking yourself too seriously on the internet lol. And no, that’s not punctuation - that’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?When did I say #allmen? But also maybe look globally - men of colour certainly oppressed women in countries where white people were not the majority lol. I thought I was older than you. You sound like you’re 19 - surprised if you’re actually a proper adult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Incorrect. Do some reading that isn’t a porn website’s marketing material lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:01 PM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Yes, it’s false paranoia. Absolute nonsense! Women always had the vote and were able to own property - men never stopped them. You seem like you’ve read a lot of history books lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Doesn’t change my point. There is no feminist conspiracy - you are being oppressed by other men, as a lower tier man. Which is what feminists have always said lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?You seem extremely intelligent and logical so I care a whole lot :’( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?The fact that SJP is literally ridiculed for having a slightly long face just proves my point. There’s no male actor who is ridiculed for being ugly like this who is not actually even ugly. I’m not a femcel nor is anything I’ve said gobbledygook. Know you’ve won when people just start throwing out random insults lmao. People are transitioning because they are trans? They have gender dysphoria lol. Plenty of women who have transitioned to men have spoken about their newfound privilege and ease in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Some of those people are very explicitly part of movies that are part of the ‘body positivity’ movement - as I stated earlier this is reactionary. I agree there has been an uptick in this kind of film. Some of them are not unattractive (Sarah Jessica Parker is conventionally attractive. Her face is slightly long that’s all - lol at listing her as unattractive and then saying Adam Driver is a hottie). Some of them never play romantic leads, unlike the men I listed. It’s also not just film. There … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?I disagree. He’s not an attractive man, particularly as compared with the women he gets together with. I very rarely see couples where the guy is average and overweight and the woman is very beautiful. He’s funny but overall his personality is usually gross and aimless. Are you a man or a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?‘For some reason’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Men you’re looks don’t matter, it’s how you make women feel.The people I’ve slept with casually have also been attractive, just not as attractive as my boyfriends. I could hold out for the hottest guy ever but what’s the point? My FWB just needs to be attractive enough, decent personality - I’m only sleeping with him once a week/every few weeks for 6 months max. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:45 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?So...you have no problems at all, but somehow women are more coddled than you? Sounds legit and incredibly self aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:39 PM |
| 12 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?No. Read a history book lol. My point was not that women are oppressed anyway. It’s that the people who are in positions of power are still mostly men. So men are ‘oppressing’ other men if MRAs are to be believed - men structured society this way lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:36 PM |
| 14 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Lol yep not only are men a part of society they are still over represented in virtually all positions of power. This whole thing about women oppressing men and the feminist conspiracy to hold down ‘nice guys’ is absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Pretty well established that boys do not receive as harsh social feedback for transgressions as girls. This is why autism and ADHD are often missed in girls until adulthood - socialisation and harsh feedback for social transgressions is just that much stronger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Seth Rogen is overweight and very average looking. The women he gets together with in films are always much, much better looking than him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:28 PM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Okay, well what is it? What is it that is so deeply affecting you and making you feel like you have it much harder than women and were never coddled? Please don’t talk about prison sentences and deaths of manual labourers if you are not a felon or a labourer - these are men’s issues but they are also class issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Adam Sandler, Seth Rogan, Adam Driver, Michael Cera. Lots of average men out there - it’s not just the Hemsworths. But I agree there has been an uptick in the objectification of men in film/men as eye candy in film more recently. Those films are not the films that twenty somethings and onwards grew up with. Annnd ‘dad bod’ was the reactionary response to that uptick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:20 PM |
| -6 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Your idea of not being coddled is people not having sex with you. If people not having sex with you is the major concern in your life? You have been coddled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 02:25 PM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?I am young, unless by young you mean teens and not twenties. I know lots of people from early twenties onwards - men are more coddled imo. Body positivity is a reaction to the absolute constant body shaming. It only exists because body shaming is so pervasive. Men do not need a similar movement because men are not body shamed in the same way as women and never have been. This is really not too much better than saying ‘why is there no prostate cancer movement for women?’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 02:23 PM |
| -2 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?Its because women have more realistic expectations and a better social network. Men are coddled. They grow up believing they are ‘special’ and that their needs are important. Media has traditionally been full of unattractive men who are rewarded with ridiculously good looking women for...simply existing. Conversely, women are constantly told that they are not good enough, to take up less space and that their needs do not matter. Body positivity is a reaction to this - it does not mean that this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?It’s not ‘prejudice’. Prejudice is ill founded/not based on experience or reason. This is based on both experience and reason. It’s a dating preference. I am not compatible with these people because they tend to bore me. I find ‘nerdiness ’ in general forced and irritating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?I think men who play video games enough that they actually talk to other people about it like it matters - entirely boring humans. And yes, when it comes to dating I hate ‘nerds’ and I associate that personality type with video games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Men you’re looks don’t matter, it’s how you make women feel.Yes, as I said, other stuff matters too. Status and money can ‘buy’ you attractiveness. Most men are not famous rappers. Most women do care about the way men look. Looks are not everything - but most women do not want to date ugly men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:13 PM |
| 13 | In day-to-day life, why should low SMV men treat women with respect versus being an asshole if the end result is the same for them, i.e., social and romantic rejection?This thread is wild. Do you. If it really pains you so much not to be an asshole go ahead and be an asshole. But for fuck’s sake - please stop asking why women won’t fuck nice guys like you. You are not nice. You are someone for whom basic human decency and politeness is an enormous struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Men you’re looks don’t matter, it’s how you make women feel.This is accurate imo. My boyfriends have always been better looking than the people I have had casual sex with. I have to maintain long term attraction to a bf so he’d better be hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:00 PM |
| 3 | Men you’re looks don’t matter, it’s how you make women feel.This is untrue. Your looks do matter. Other stuff matters, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:59 AM |
| 1 | I do not understand what men see in marriageMaybe we just know different parents. My parents loved being parents and love looking after small children now. Many of my colleagues return to work and put their kids into childcare or stay at home and put their kids into childcare - this frees up a lot of time for many parents. You really don’t have to parent 24/7 - I think this is massively overstated on reddit tbh. Do you get why people have pets? Not the same time or $$ or emotional investment obviously but it’s the same thing really - a do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Lol why? It’s not a prejudice - it’s a preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Everything you are describing indicates that there is no ‘one people’ mentality despite there being equality under the law lol. Observing that you come from the same geographic place does not indicate a ‘one people’ mentality. Ongoing sectarian violence is a strong indication that there is not a ‘one people’ mentality. It doesn’t matter whether it’s because of ethnic differences or religious differences - I don’t agree with you, but that is really neither here nor there. I don’t feel like I am ‘… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 08:07 AM |
| 1 | I do not understand what men see in marriageDo you generally not understand why other people are different to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 08:05 AM |
| 2 | I do not understand what men see in marriageIf you say so! Bf/gf is much more likely to be stable than marriage! Of course! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 08:04 AM |
| 2 | I do not understand what men see in marriageIf you say so! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:57 AM |
| 1 | I do not understand what men see in marriageYou don’t understand why other people want children or you just don’t want them yourself? It’s pretty obvious why people want children lol. It might not be something you want but it’s hardly some great mystery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:45 AM |
| 3 | I do not understand what men see in marriageI said more likely. Not likely. Marriage is more likely to be permanent and committed than bf/gf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:43 AM |
| 1 | I do not understand what men see in marriageNope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:42 AM |
| 2 | I do not understand what men see in marriageWhat does that have to do with anything? I did intend to marry my last boyfriend because he felt it was important - I just fell out of love with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:08 AM |
| 1 | I do not understand what men see in marriageNot a man, but lots of people get married to have a stable partnership in which to have children. Also lots of people just click with someone and want that person to be their life partner. My parents are still wildly in love in their late fifties/early sixties - they have the best time with each other. People get married because they don’t want to lose the person who gives them that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:06 AM |
| 2 | I do not understand what men see in marriageLol my last two boyfriends have been much more into the idea of marriage than me. The guy I am currently seeing also specifically wants to get married. I could go either way tbh - but if I do get married it will be because I want to have children within a partnership that is (at least) symbolically and legally more likely to be permanent. I have always found men to be the ones who push to take the next step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 07:04 AM |
| 2 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?So why are you addressing it to me at all? Just needed to pour some rage out somewhere? All of your responses to me have been entirely irrelevant lol. Everyone likes attractive people. The end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Why are you addressing any of this to me? What do any of these little tangential thoughts of yours have to do with me or what I said? I’m not broke and I don’t expect my partners to be more attractive than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:56 AM |
| 3 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Lol how is it not equal? Attractive people date other attractive people. Seems pretty equal. Like women with hourglass figures and don’t have one yourself? You equality hating hypocrite!!!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:43 AM |
| 3 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?What does liking attractive people have to do with equality? Lol. I’m likely to date tall, handsome millionaires because my social circle is affluent and men are generally quite tall where I live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:29 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Yes, and some stories are not for everyone, even if they’re ‘good’. I’ll almost always cancel someone if they mention liking video games. Some passions simply are not attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Yeah but the poster I was replying to was talking about just being ‘passionate’ around women about things. Which usually means nerding out. Being passionate and driven is important - I wouldn’t date someone who isn’t. I just don’t want to hear about it. Everyone has interests and passions. People with a chip on their shoulder about how SpEshul they are for having hobbies are irritating - these people are almost always men. Also lots of things it’s like...frankly I just think it’s dead boring tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:24 AM |
| 3 | Things every man should do. Or at least everyone who is aspiring to be their best version of himself.Apart from learn game - isn’t this all just stuff that everyone should do? Is this not basic adulting? Take care of your health, have some self respect, wear decent clothes, be somewhat purposeful. Who thinks being unhealthy and aimless is a blueprint for happiness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Lol yeah what about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Not getting a response is not being called creepy. How is this at all relevant? People are attracted to hot people, duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Attractive men can be creepy, too. All about how you approach and how you handle rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:33 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have a truly close platonic friend of the opposite sex?Lying to use people for personal gain is immoral. It’s not really a subjective grey area. Many people have moments of weakness when it comes to morality. Good friends call you out for being a shitty person - this whole ‘support my shitty immoral choices’ thing is just enabling, not friendship. But correct - I would not associate with someone who believed it was okay to lie to people in order to use them for personal gain. Sound like deeply unpleasant, nasty people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Incorrect. You’re just deeply invested in doing something that is unethical and want to justify it. That’s fine, just say ‘I love porn I can’t give it up’ like people say about meat. Whatever. Porn doesn’t make me jealous - I used to use it, too. But the fact is it is a deeply unethical industry and it is very difficult to determine whether the performers are consenting, in a healthy frame of mind, etc. I prefer not to support human trafficking and the exploitation of mentally ill people. That i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Lol. I don’t bother when people demonstrate poor reading comprehension skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 01:34 AM |
| 3 | Why are you surprised that looks matter?They aren’t surprised they just pretend to be so they have an excuse to be outraged lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:12 AM |
| 1 | If you’re in a relationship, is it important for your partner to post about you?Yeah it’s a red flag. Even if the guy doesn’t post a lot - usually he will post a picture of you doing something or the two of you together just to show you off. Obviously it’s different if they don’t have social media lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Sectarian does not refer exclusively to ethnic differences and I’m not sure why you think it does. Violence on the basis of religious difference is sectarian violence. Those different religious groups are also often ethnically different (or at least believe themselves to be). So yes, there is sectarian violence between the various ethnic groups in India and that is a lot more complex than the Indo Aryan/Dravidian line you’ve drawn. The ‘religious differences’ vs ‘ethnic differences’ thing doesn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Unlikely, but sure it could be. I usually ask these guys what’s going on and they say they always need stimulation to get hard. Normal guys get hard incredibly easily in any sort of sexual situation so it’s a bit of a giveaway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 11:01 PM |
| 2 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?I think I’ve had one FWB like this when I was younger - nice guy, but we only had sex once or twice because he just sucked in bed. A lot of them have gotten knocked out at ‘doesn’t get hard from kissing or looking’ for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Erectile dysfunction, dick never gets fully hard, takes forever to come or can’t come without manual stimulation, bad in bed, has sex in a weird and pornified way. Doesn’t understand foreplay. Doesn’t get hard just from kissing or looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?The protests themselves are evidence that there is no ‘one people’ mentality. That is a pretty subjective claim to make - one that is all about interpretation. In South Africa, for example, white flight, brain drain and unprecedented ongoing violence and corruption throughout the country, again, are counter evidence to the ‘one people’ mentality. In India, ongoing sectarian violence is counter to the ‘one people’ mentality. Equality under the law does not necessarily lead to a ‘one people’ menta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:57 PM |
| 3 | How many of you have a truly close platonic friend of the opposite sex?Yes, I have lots of platonic male friends. One of my closest friends is a man. I don’t have to dispense dating advice because he seems to pick up very easily and also do well when it comes to more serious situations. But I would not tell him to do something stupid like just ‘have his fun’ with some dumb girl he’s seeing who isn’t interested in casual sex. Casual sex is fine, lying to people is not fine. Encouraging amorality is such a weird standard for ‘genuine’ friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:50 PM |
| 3 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?Eh. Not necessarily true - plenty of people, men and women, do masturbate to mental imagery. It’s easy enough to tell if a man is a porn addict (or even just watches a lot of porn) tbh. I wouldn’t date a porn addict long term anyway - so this wouldn’t be a concern. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:39 PM |
| 7 | Why SHOULD men date? (beyond the sex)Well why would you assume you’d see anyone again after a first date? It’s a first date - it should be low investment, let’s see if we have fun on both sides. So you do want a relationship, you’re just doing badly at dating so you’ve decided to give up? That is a bit different to your OP. If you’re burned out, sure, give up. There’s no need to make it some philosophical stance about how there’s no need and so there’s no reason lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?I don’t agree with you that equality under the law always leads to peace and a ‘one people’ mentality and I suspect nor do the protestors. These people are seeking equality that they do not perceive to be there - not separatism. Racially segregated or specific health care for particular groups in addition to the existing system? There’s a difference. I’m sorry but your interpretation of all of this just sounds like you’re needlessly twisting things in order to feel outraged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:25 PM |
| 6 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?I’m talking about in real life. You can find all kinds of horrible things on the internet. I get kill yourself whore messages on reddit all the time lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 09:17 AM |
| 24 | Why SHOULD men date? (beyond the sex)I don’t need to live in a nice apartment - I still enjoy it. I don’t need to have a pet - I still enjoy it. You can’t think of a whole bunch of stuff you don’t need but really enjoy having in your life? “If I don’t absolutely need it, it’s pointless” is such a weird take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 07:59 AM |
| 4 | To what degree do you prefer your partner take the lead in your relationship?I think of my boyfriends like I think of my assistant. I have delegated decision making about administrative things to him - like where we’re eating dinner or what hotel we’re going to stay at on the weekend. If he wants my input, he can check and I’ll be happy to offer a view, but I prefer him to handle this stuff. Men like to take care of things like this ime, it boosts their ego and I like not having to plan/organise that much. Anything important like where we’re moving etc equal partners, ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Who makes fun of short men? People say they don’t want to date them sometimes that’s about it. No ones is like ‘lol that guy is short rofl’. Wtf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?No. Basic respect is being polite and not being actively rude. It’s basic. It doesn’t change because you’re nicer to some people vs others. The people you’re nicer to are getting more than basic respect. But everyone is still getting basic respect as a baseline minimum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 06:28 AM |
| 10 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?You can still care. It’s exhausting to make ethical choices all the time - most people just pick a few things that really matter to them. Not watching porn is pretty easy tho vs entirely changing the way you eat, commute etc for environmental reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Also irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 06:05 AM |
| 2 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?It’s an example of not treating people equally/the same, but still showing everyone respect. That’s why. You have continued to make ‘basic respect’ about everyone getting treated equally throughout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 05:58 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?No. Are you living under a rock? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?I’m not mad about pulling down statues - I just don’t think it’s here or there. It’s symbolically powerful and that’s how activism works and the statues are not that important anyway. People who keep saying this is destroying history or whatever are being melodramatic. Eh. That is a particular kind of woman and a particular kind of relationship. I have my own passions - I don’t want to be brought into my boyfriend’s passions. If you’re talking about shared interests - that’s obviously different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 05:56 AM |
| 3 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Men do yell out that random women are ugly all the time, though. That’s a whole subset of catcalling. You aren’t answering my question. When is this happening to you. You’re literally just minding your own business, some woman walks up to you and says ‘ur ugly’ and then walks off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:49 AM |
| 4 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?No. I just should have chosen to break up with my ex vs giving up something I wanted to do. That choice ended up tanking the relationship anyway. 3 years ago when I made that choice, I would have had a better time being single, yes. If a similar opportunity came up now and the guy I’m seeing wasn’t interested in long distance the relationship would be over. I’ve always enjoyed being single. There’s a lot more time and freedom vs being in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:47 AM |
| 2 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Lol I have seen this happen. It’s not an illusion. Men often call women ugly when they turn them down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:43 AM |
| 4 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?No, as I said above, I have seen men say horrible things to women’s faces. It happens all the time. You are living under a rock. In what context is this happening to you? Most adult women don’t walk up to strangers and tell them they’re ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:39 AM |
| 6 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Lol - I know plenty of men who have done this and have seen this done to plenty of women. You don’t see the men on this forum going on and on about how ugly literal celebrities are sometimes? Do you live under a rock? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?It doesn’t matter if they treat you the exact same as another person. Basic respect is not ‘everyone is equal, I treat everyone the exact same’. Some guy bought me coffee the other day for no reason. Is he disrespecting the other women in the cafe by not also buying them coffee? No, he treated me better because he found me attractive. He’s still not being disrespectful to the others. Basic respect is basic. It’s just being polite and not actively rude. It’s always this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?It’s irrelevant. It will never be ‘bullying’ to simply not find someone attractive. Bullying requires...bullying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Lol I’m incredibly sweet irl believe it or not (apart from when I’m at work). You can be passionate about something without ‘nerding out’ about it. It’s the nerding out part that is, mostly, irritating to women. We all pretend to enjoy it when it’s our partner - it’s girlfriend duty and it is more enjoyable when it’s a man you like because it’s like ‘oh what a sweet dork lol’. But yep, I only enjoy hearing about people’s hobbies or passions once I already like them. They don’t make me more or le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:16 AM |
| 2 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Sigh. Yes, people treat people they find attractive better. No, you are not being ‘disrespected’ because people don’t giggle at your jokes extra hard or give you free things. Basic respect is ‘are people being polite to me? Is anyone being actively rude?’. It’s not like ‘she said Chad was hot so she has to say I’m hot or it’s disrespect’ - ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:10 AM |
| 4 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?No. I seriously think this is the equivalent of ‘I can’t fuck your masters degree’. I think it’s cute/goofy/whatever if I already like you. But honestly? Men are incredibly boring about their hobbies - they go on and on and on. I wish the majority of them would stop. It’s good that you’re passionate and passion is important but it doesn’t need to be overshared about. I would expect people to be bored if I went on and on about my interests, too. I’m endlessly grateful that most of the men I’ve da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:07 AM |
| 5 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?Ridiculous. This ‘all women are treated like they are beautiful!!!’ stuff here is bullshit. Sure if you mean all women will find someone to fuck them. But women are still held to some pretty rigid standards. The whole ‘body diversity’ movement is a reaction to those standards - it doesn’t magically mean those standards no longer exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?It’s not basic respect tho - that’s halo effect. It’s extra benefits. Most adults don’t go around saying ‘ur ugly’ to people they find unattractive. They give them basic respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:56 AM |
| 2 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?When does this happen ‘out of the blue’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:56 AM |
| 9 | Why are women allowed "beautiful at any shape or size", but men aren't?People aren’t bullying you because they don’t find you attractive. Finding people attractive is not basic respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:49 AM |
| 9 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?I mean I don’t care about my partner’s masturbation habits/generally don’t discuss too much. So I really doubt this would come up. I’m not a fan of porn, though, because I think the majority of it is unethical and I will usually tell a partner that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:39 AM |
| 12 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?It’s less likely to be unethical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:14 AM |
| 9 | Would you marry a man who uses a sex toy (e.g. flesh-light)?I wouldn’t care. I’d probably prefer it to porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 03:04 AM |
| 2 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Sure, I don’t care to debate everything, however. This is not interesting enough to me as stated previously. You’re trying to engage in a one sided debate that is off topic from my original comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:56 AM |
| 3 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Yes, people who love porn and video games more than they love sex and real life - often miserable. You can like these things in healthy moderation. But let’s be real, lots of men are terrible at that. You can love something and still be miserable. Drug addicts love drugs - still miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:47 AM |
| 2 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Well then he shouldn’t have said ‘that’s what they said about porn’ in response to my comment saying something entirely different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:41 AM |
| 2 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?As I said, do some reading. There are a lot of studies about this. I’m not interested enough to educate you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:38 AM |
| 6 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?How did I run out of choices? I’m dating someone new now haha. He asked me when I wanted to get married and I said I’d rather be single/wasn’t feeling the relationship any more. I’m pretty sure I fell out of love due to resentment, but it might have been something else. I didn’t want to move in with him, get married, all the stuff we had talked about, so we had to break up. Shrug - it happens. I know lots of women who made the opposite choice in my initial position and none of them have regrets.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:35 AM |
| 0 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Okay if you say so lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:32 AM |
| 1 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Yes. I also have a sex drive independent of simply seeing someone I think is attractive. Maybe do some reading about women’s sex drive that isn’t the manosphere lol - it’s pretty widely accepted that women’s sex drive is as strong as men’s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:26 AM |
| 9 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Maybe. That’s still a sex toy. Men seem pretty unhappy about having to use escorts because it doesn’t validate their attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:23 AM |
| 3 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Women are more validated by the stuff around sex vs sex itself. Sex itself is just a physical thing for women. Romance. Men are validated by sex itself. You can keep saying no if you want, doesn’t make it untrue lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:22 AM |
| 4 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?What if they’re not ‘meh’ but being single is just better? Being single does offer you the kind of freedom that you just can’t get in a relationship. My ex boyfriend was a great guy (attractive, great job, likely to be called Chad by men on the internet). I still should have opted to stay single because I regretted not taking on overseas career opportunities. He was great, but my life would ultimately just have been more enriched without him. I got resentful and it eventually tanked the relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:20 AM |
| 5 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Women don’t use sex for validation in the same way. Men use sex to feel validated in their masculinity - pretty glaringly obvious lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:17 AM |
| 3 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Yeah but porn and video game addicts are often miserable incels. I’m not saying men won’t get sucked in. I’m saying they think they’ll love it and they won’t. Women will use and enjoy just like they currently use and enjoy sex toys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:15 AM |
| 7 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?So as you said. Women want to have sex as much as men when they’re with someone they are attracted to. Men are just attracted to more people, so they go around wanting to sleep with more people. The difference isn’t in sex drive - it’s in initial attraction/lust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:03 AM |
| 5 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Lots of men are uncomfortable with vibrators, too. Women don’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 02:01 AM |
| 3 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Sure, but that really appeared to be the epiphany OP had. Women respond to passion about them. I don’t care if someone is passionate about whatever nerdy hobby they like - no one does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?I don’t really care. I’m just explaining to you that I think a lot of people who get labelled bullies are pretty standard people, not horrible people. I text some of my friends once every few weeks. Depends on the nature of the friendship - you need less communication as you get older and the friendship gets more solid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:58 AM |
| 7 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?That doesn’t really follow. You can have options to settle down with a man and options to stay single and staying single can be a better option. What are you trying to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:56 AM |
| 6 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Porn and sex toys aren’t really the same thing. Also who ever said more women would be interested in porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?Okay, sure - ‘bully’ is all perception. I have had shy/awkward nerds ask me why I’m dating a bully multiple times in the past. Or talk about the men I tend to date. They’re just normal, confident men. None of them actually bully people. If you want to stay friends with someone, make a baseline effort to stay in touch seems pretty obvious to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:31 AM |
| 7 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Karens aren’t lonely cat ladies. They’re weirdly entitled soccer mums with blonde bobs who want to speak to the manager lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:28 AM |
| 6 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?When did my comment become about 6ft tall doctors? This is about sex toys. Women already use sex toys more than straight men. People can use sex toys and still date doctors. That’s also not necessarily about impressing everyone. Many people are attracted to taller men and many people find power/success/ambition/intelligence to be a turn on as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:24 AM |
| 7 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Eh. Men are just more instantly visually attracted to women. In terms of actual sex drive there isn’t really a huge difference once people are in relationships. Lots of women posting in dead bedrooms tbh. Sex isn’t about validation for women as much (of course there’s still an element of validation there, tho). That’s why they vibrators/dildos (literal replacements for a man that aren’t her own hand) are so popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:21 AM |
| 2 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Doesn’t make sense - if it’s really all about orgasms, you’d all just use sex toys. You already don’t need validation just to get off. Men use sex to validate themselves. Companionship is also part of it - but can be sought elsewhere. I think most people enjoy the company of other humans so I really don’t predict the sex robot apocalypse is coming any time soon. I just think like with other sex toys - women are more likely to actually use and enjoy sex robots lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?Eh. Lots of people think someone not endlessly validating them is that person being ‘insensitive’ or people just ignoring them is being insensitive. Not everyone can click. The number of shy weirdos who have acted like I’m bullying them because I didn’t invite them to a party or something in high school is endless - we had nothing in common, we weren’t friends, I didn’t hate them at all. It was as simple as that. I find Dale Carnegie really hokey and fake, personally. But if it worked for you, i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 01:00 AM |
| 7 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Eh. I don’t think this is true. That’s why many, many women are electing to stay single and there isn’t nearly the same amount of femcel vs incel rage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?It’s not misery olympics when it comes to people with and without social skills. Everyone has been isolated before - women exclude other women all the time in brutal ways, including ‘normal’ women. You’re assuming things about people based on their appearance and demeanour - which is exactly what I keep saying shy and anxious people tend to do. It’s really a chip on your shoulder mentality. The ‘bully’ that guys on here complain about is usually just a normal dude who is confident and decent loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 12:50 AM |
| 25 | What do you think would happen if very realistic robotic sex dolls/companions were invented in the near future?Women will love it. Men think they’ll love it, but will end up being disappointed it’s not the ‘real’ thing. So basically the current state of sex toys. Sex is about validation for many men - not orgasms. This woman chose me and affirmed my worth as a man. That’s why sex toys for straight men is not a huge market as compared to sex toys for straight women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 12:05 AM |
| 8 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?Normal men know this already. It is accepted truth. The internet is just a weird echo chamber for guys who feel the need to over complicate everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?Yeah, but normal people aren’t simple minded - they’re just not living with unhealthy levels of anxiety about things. They were able to naturally pick up something you had to learn as a ‘skill’. Everyone goes through being isolated in some way, shape or form at some point in their lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenLol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenIt’s still entirely irrelevant. You were ‘just saying’ it for fun/as a thought? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenOnce again, I am not kandyapplez, she was not Australian. You’d think that - but surprisingly they do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:18 PM |
| 11 | Live with 2 bartenders, posted in /seduction - sparked a debate. Am I on a good path?So your epiphany was - women like men who pursue them, not men who stand around waiting to be pursued? Yep. Sounds about right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenNever heard it. Straight men bring violence - they show up at gay clubs to hit on women, get offended when a gay guy hits on them and start a fight. No one likes them as ‘eye candy’ in this context lol. Definitely heard complaints about women getting wasted/being boring, but there has always been ‘ugh the girls come and then all the straight dudes are here too’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?I’m not hugely extroverted tbh - I think it’s just the way I look. Shy/anxious/stunted men are also the most likely to think I am stupid and act shocked when it turns out I have a degree or whatever. Like I said - weird ideas about women, especially ‘normal women’ are pretty common as a result of lack of exposure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Would you like to be in a world where female nudity wasn't as much of a big deal, but...I don’t think I’d like to live in a world where everyone is going ‘ew’ like an immature teenager about other people’s bodies. That sounds...unpleasant. However, no reaction? Totally fine. And that is exactly what happens on nudist beaches, certain festivals etc. The men in those situations don’t gawk - the nude body is seen as the nude body, not in a sexual light. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenIt didn’t address my point at all. It’s just another tidbit from your OP. Why is homie/bro status so important? Your OP is not ‘women will never achieve homie/bro status without thirst!!’ now is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?It’s probably because you are socially anxious yourself. I’ve noticed that you’re all very nice and accepting towards each other. I am not socially anxious - socially stunted men are always needlessly hostile with me. They assume I’m insanely mean for no reason whatsoever and have weird victim complexes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?Nope. Lots of men who aren’t ‘shy’ or ‘anxious’ who don’t make my vagina tingle lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Most women don’t marry or date men they are not attracted to.I’ve never dated a man who wanted to do anything I have a hard boundary about. But yes, definitely. Same as men who turn down their partners’ request for hardcore BDSM are respecting them. Sex bleeds into everything else - you can’t do a bunch of degrading shit in the bedroom and maintain a loving, equal relationship in all other aspects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | How many one night stands lead to relationships in your experience?None for me and none in my social circle. FWB is different to ONS and yes, that does happen pretty frequently. I’ve had a single ONS ever - the guy was just there and I was bored/wanted to try it/knew I would never get attached to this particular guy because his personality was not in line with what I would want in a partner. He tried to turn it into something more and I ghosted him. This is pretty common from what I hear from my female friends - men often want to take people on dates etc after … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:47 PM |
| 3 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenEntirely irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:40 PM |
| 14 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenYeah I agree with this. It’s more likely dudes would suddenly see that women are pretty logical, rational and good at problem solving after all - because they’d stop being so confused by women’s mysterious and irrational choices not to fuck them, specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:39 PM |
| 6 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenTo be fair a lot of the complaints about straight women ruining gay spaces go along the lines of: it’s disrespectful, you’re not gay, why are you in a gay bar? when the straight ladies show up, the straight guys follow and then the whole place just becomes another straight people club. Ime gay men are usually more distressed about the straight men who inevitably follow the women than the women themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:36 PM |
| 7 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenLol no. Plenty of men enjoy platonic friendships with women. Plenty of men do not think ‘I would always rather speak to a man unless sex is involved’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 10:34 PM |
| 7 | What’s with the trend of very attractive women being single compared to average women?Yes. Men should be able to define how attractive they are to women. Women get no say lol. It frankly doesn’t matter how fair the ratings are. Men are still overestimating how attractive women find them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 05:36 AM |
| 7 | What’s with the trend of very attractive women being single compared to average women?Already talked about make up. Disagree with you. It doesn’t radically transform anyone’s face in real life. That kind of thing is for YouTube and drag queens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 05:35 AM |
| 5 | What’s with the trend of very attractive women being single compared to average women?No. Because women do more with what they’re genetically given and so end up looking better overall. I’m not just talking about make up. This thread is about women who are 8s, 9s and 10s and why they tend to be single. It isn’t about people overestimating their attractiveness - although research suggests it’s men who do this and women have a good idea of where they stand. There are fewer male 8s, 9s and 10s. Fewer men put effort into maintaining their appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:36 AM |
| 2 | How to tell if a man if physically attracted to you? (In contexts where hitting on people in frowned upon)How is some guy 15 years older than her ‘Chad lite’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:23 AM |
| 3 | Would you date a crossdresser?I mean if it’s like a themed party. I went to a few of those back in college - ‘drag night’. It’s just stupid fun. Any kind of regular cross dressing because he enjoys it/for the sake of it. Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:20 AM |
| 8 | What’s with the trend of very attractive women being single compared to average women?Yes. It’s because there are fewer very attractive men than there are very attractive women, imo. And attractive women always have options so they’re less inclined to put up with bad behaviour. More of an ‘on to the next’ mentality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:19 AM |
| 3 | How to tell if a man if physically attracted to you? (In contexts where hitting on people in frowned upon)He is blatantly hitting on you in a workplace context and is 15 years your senior. Pull back from this colleague if you care at all about your professional reputation. Learn how to not be so clueless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Would you date a crossdresser?I’m a woman and no, definitely not, unless it’s like some drag themed party/special context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:15 AM |
| 0 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?There isn’t the same historical context. Women don’t frequently develop stupid ideas about men because they (at the very least) are constantly exposed to male POV in media. Men can have absolutely no contact with women at all if they choose not to. Just my experience - ‘shy’ and ‘anxious’ men are usually misogynistic and view women as some kind of puzzle to be solved/code to be cracked rather than as people. Butttt - even though I don’t assume misandry, I do also assume that shy and anxious wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Do you see sexual promiscuity (defines here as multiple transient sexual encounters with relative strangers and little if any intimacy) on a broad scale a good, bad, or harmless thing? Is it gender-specific? What impact, if any, would it have on monogamy?Bad. Sex without intimacy is alienating for most men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Women of ppd, what do you assume of a socially introverted male?Introverted is not the same as shy and incapable of making conversation. Introverts are fine. The other two...yeah, I assume they’re misogynistic. Men who don’t talk to women ever due to their anxiety issues often have weird assumptions about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 11:46 PM |
| 3 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?Eh. Most people don’t regularly have ONS and plenty of people would, you know, have a conversation beforehand where someone might disqualify themselves. There are also signs/symbols of someone’s morals and values - certain types of tattoos, clothing. People also don’t choose to be with abusers because they don’t care about morality lol. Abuse is far more complex than that. Look up trauma bonding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 11:39 PM |
| 5 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?Being hot is a prerequisite for having sex with someone. Lots of hot people disqualify themselves by having shitty morals and values. Both are important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 10:39 PM |
| 6 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?Did you read the OP? Only the first thing asked was about sex. The other two were about LTR and having and raising children. I was answering the 1,2,3. Only the first thing I listed is about getting casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 10:38 PM |
| 1 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?I didn’t say men and women communicate the same way. I said men are able to give compliments. They don’t give them like women do - but normal guys? Yeah, perfectly capable of giving compliments. Men and women communicate differently. Men communicate differently with men vs other women. So what? I don’t talk to my boyfriends like I do my friends, either. Ever been to a night club? Men know how to give compliments to women - they do it near constantly in that environment. You are in a minority if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 10:31 PM |
| 2 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?Eh. I think there’s broad agreement on what be hot means. Also I’m giving broad advice to this person not telling them how to sleep with me. You need to be the kind of hot that attracts the kind of person you want for a relationship. You need to have the kind of morals and values that will lead you into a relationship with a woman you like. Similar morals and values to her, probably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 10:28 PM |
| 7 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?No. Why is being hot hollow? Why is having morals and values false? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Have you/Would you date someone conventionally unattractive?No. I haven’t. Why would I lower my standards like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:59 PM |
| 15 | What is your sexual strategy advice to men?Be hot. Be normal - personality wise. Have some decent morals and values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:58 PM |
| 5 | "Respect" in the bedroom - the morality of sex actsYep, this. People think they can separate all this shit out and put it in convenient boxes - they can’t. Sex bleeds into everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:55 PM |
| 2 | "Respect" in the bedroom - the morality of sex actsYes. There are lots of sex acts I don’t do because they feel degrading or seem painful etc - with both long term and short term partners. Obviously I would like to go to clubs with my partner occasionally (per the quote in your post) - that is not a sex act and I do not think it is degrading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Most women don’t marry or date men they are not attracted to.Yes. I think a lot of women want to have a more romantic kind of sex because they respect their long term partners and want to engage with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?Look as I said - ime as a woman, this is a small proportion of men, usually not neurotypical men. Maybe 20% of men. Most men are fine with giving compliments - if you’re not, you’re not normal. It is overly logical because the majority of people - men and women - do not behave like this. It is a subset of borderline autistic and autistic people who behave like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Most women don’t marry or date men they are not attracted to.But that happens to women, too. Just look at the dead bedrooms sub - lots of ladies in there. I think plenty of men I have dated have been recklessly wild ‘alpha males’ (not sure if they were, but they definitely changed their lifestyle) and have then calmed down when dating me because...well, ‘good girl’. My ex used to love clubbing and would go out all the time with female ‘friends’. He would never go clubbing with me - too much ‘respect’ for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 09:15 AM |
| 1 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?Not sure where you got that from. A compliment is typically an expression of praise or admiration. Googled and got that very definition immediately. “I love you” is not praise or admiration. It’s just an expression of your own feelings. I think a long look can communicate that you think someone is beautiful and can be a compliment - it’s not verbal vs non-verbal. But verbal is definitely easier to identify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 09:11 AM |
| 2 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?Eh. I’ve always found it to be spectrum types and not manly men who struggle with compliments. Compliments from men and compliments from women are different. I’m not expecting my partner to be impressed by the structure of my shoes or something. This isn’t some gendered language thing. It’s weird repression and overly ‘logical’ thinking patterns abt what needs to be communicated. I’ve dated plenty of men so it’s clearly not a problem across the board. Even my male colleagues occasionally complim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 09:06 AM |
| 3 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?Not necessarily, but none of the things you mentioned are compliments. “I love you” is not a compliment. It’s a feeling you have - not a quality you are praising in the other person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 03:43 AM |
| 4 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?Men who don’t give compliments or overcomplicate giving compliments are weird and emotionally repressed. I don’t date people who haven’t given me a sincere compliment past the first date and my boyfriends have complimented me pretty regularly when the relationship was going well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 03:17 AM |
| 7 | What is normal for complimenting a wife?None of the things you mentioned are compliments, with the possible exception of telling her she’s sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 03:15 AM |
| 1 | The one that socialises more has more leverage in the relationshipSure. But how often do really socially outgoing people date people who never leave the house. Birds of a feather and blah blah. The differences in how social people are in a relationship are likely to be minor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 03:13 AM |
| 1 | Most women don’t marry or date men they are not attracted to.Sure. And lots of women also treat the men they’re in relationships with the same way as they did their casual partners. But it’s undeniable that a lot of men treat their wives and hot party girls differently. Dead bedrooms appears to be full of men with Madonna/whore complexes who can only get off to porn rather than their partners. I don’t see many posts like what you’re talking about in the relationships subs. I occasionally see someone disliking an activity, ceasing to do it, and their partn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 03:11 AM |
| 8 | Do you ever think of the possibility what your kids might look like when thinking about having children with a man?Yeah. I think this level of thought about unattractive strangers is unusual lol. Not something most people are going to relate to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 12:53 AM |
| 8 | Do you ever think of the possibility what your kids might look like when thinking about having children with a man?Yeah but it just never crosses my mind what would happen if I had kids with a gross person. Why would I do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 12:41 AM |
| 3 | When you know a man really likes you?No it’s not seeing someone as a 10 that’s dehumanising. It’s not treating them like they’re a person because they’re a 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 12:39 AM |
| 12 | Do you ever think of the possibility what your kids might look like when thinking about having children with a man?No. I only think about what our kids might look like in a long term committed relationship - because I love the person I always think our children will look adorable. This seems like a weird, high disgust or non-neurotypical thing to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 12:39 AM |
| 6 | Most women don’t marry or date men they are not attracted to.But don’t men do this exact same thing? The way they’re aroused by hot party girls vs their wives is different. Love and respect changes the way attraction works for both genders. ‘Best’ is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 11:35 PM |
| 6 | When you know a man really likes you?Yeah, but the charm thing is also superficial and part of my general ‘appearance and demeanour’ imo. It’s like - good, you like the way I laugh and attach a million positive qualities to it that I may or may not have. None of this is particularly real. Try relating to people - even your idea of a 10 lol - like they’re people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 11:18 PM |
| 5 | The one that socialises more has more leverage in the relationshipMen and women have the same ‘realistic’ prospects for a relationship imo (women don’t care that hundreds of ugly guys want to wife them up. Those options are not real). Women definitely have more options for sex if that is what they are after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 10:39 PM |
| 10 | When you know a man really likes you?Too much focus on my physical appearance is a red flag for me. People who get that invested early on just bc ‘I’m their 10’ or whatever have a shallow understanding of relationships. They’re relating to me as a fantasy, not a person, and that is a turn off. I don’t dislike men who find me very attractive - I’ve never dated anyone who didn’t. I just don’t like people who make it one hundred per cent about that. The language in your post implied to me that you don’t really see beyond attractivenes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Question 4 all. How do you feel after sex with someone you care for, love?I’m a woman and I’ve had sex with someone before and then entirely lost all feelings for them - I thought I was romantically attracted but it was all just physical and once that was over I was confused as to why I had liked the guy in the first place (he was lovely, but we were not compatible even on a FWB level. He really annoyed me). This has only happened to me once, though - I’ve been careful to try and work out whether I actually like someone since then. I think for most people the way you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Could a guy who's not sexually attractive to you ever become sexually attractive to you?Yes, this happens all the time. I usually don’t notice men until they do something to make me notice them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Does your boyfriend know how to fight? Why or why not?Yes. I’ve always dated men who know how to fight. I don’t want them to/it isn’t something I explicitly look for, but it’s always turned out that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/20 11:35 PM |
| 2 | When you wear a revealing shirt, do you get upset when men stare?I find it irritating. I don’t like people looking at me and men think literally everything is revealing - I just went outside in a massive down jacket that makes me look like a literal marshmallow. Guys still did that quick peek a few times. I have a larger than average chest on a small frame. My bust is pronounced in everything that isn’t incredibly baggy. It’s often a bit like...I’m not revealingly dressed, I’m wearing a perfectly normal jeans and t-shirt combo, you just like the way I look. G… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/20 10:59 PM |
| 0 | Do relationships work better if the male or female is the more attractive partner?I like to date men who are as attractive as me or more attractive. My experience with less attractive men is that they get insecure and jealous about weird things - they try to tear me down so they don’t feel like I’ll leave them, basically. I think relationships work best when people are equally attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/20 10:50 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It can’t be mutual if one party isn’t aware it’s happening. You need to look up the meaning of the word mutual. How could the oglers possibly be aware the woman wants it? How are they accounting for her agency? Even if she does it’s irrelevant. By ogling her without establishing mutuality the men involved are objectifying her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:19 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?We’ve already been down this path. As I said before - with sex work it depends. Some of it is truly mutual. Some of it is objectification. Can you please explain how ogling someone from afar can be ‘mutual’? That sounds ridiculous to me. It can’t be mutual if it’s from afar and one party isn’t even aware it’s happening - totally irrational take. Do you know what mutual means? Objectification involves treating someone like an object - so stripping them of their agency and ability to consent or wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:16 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I don’t understand your point at all tbh. It’s so ridiculously illogical to try and make something that is all grey space and ambiguity a perfect system of rational rules lol. It’s clearly not ‘objectification’ when a couple looks at each other. It’s clearly ‘objectification’ when a gaggle of men ogle at a woman from afar. One is mutual and wanted. The other is not mutual and wanted. One feeds into a system of objectification. The other is not objectification at all so it doesn’t feed into any s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:50 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Mutual nteractions imo do not feed into a system of objectification. I do not view things like sex work as being necessarily mutual. Many women in sex work are not empowered and are vulnerable people with no other options. This is not ‘mutual’. Similarly young women who were abused as children who have ‘daddy issues’ and sleep with older men are...abuse victims retraumatising themselves. It’s not true mutuality. I said things that people want can feed into the system. But a teenager can want a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No only the worst kind of guys do it. You are the worst kind of guy. You’re so insecure about approaching a woman you’d rather scream at her and freak her out than face up to the possibility of rejection. “Well adjusted” - lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:43 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Why do you think the situation in the video is mutual and wanted? She isn’t even aware that these men are discussing her. My ‘logic’ is not contradictory. I’ve just said it depends on the specific situation throughout. You want some black and white rule for this - there is none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Stop catcalling people. It’s creepy af no matter how much you rationalise it. You sound terribly insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:39 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No, I said it did in some contexts not in all contexts. This stuff is all context dependent, which I have said repeatedly. There are no ‘principles’. Behaviour that is objectifying in one context can be not objectifying in another context. Ogling is one of those behaviours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:37 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Go for it - but don’t complain about people calling you creepy. You’re doing something creepy. And honestly? I personally am not amoral about this stuff and I think it’s disgusting for men in their thirties and forties to be hitting on women in their teens and early twenties. There is a power imbalance. It is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:35 PM |
| 2 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Yeah. Work out and groom well. Everyone can do something lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:40 PM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I would think that might be chubby at like 24ish. 22 seems unlikely to look anything but slender tho. It depends on body comp. I know people who are 26 and look very in shape - they have low body fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:38 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It doesn’t feed into that system if it’s mutual. You’re not ‘objectifying’ someone if it’s wanted and mutual - you’re interacting with them as a human. ‘Ogling’ is not what makes it objectification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:37 PM |
| 2 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Over 25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:31 PM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?She was but it’s never acceptable to attack people with language like that. You can’t just get provoked and whip out some racism. Not okay lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:26 PM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I mean I talk to people who are not in my social circle as well. And I identify as upper middle class - but I did grow up around a lot of privilege. No one has been too much like Trump, thankfully lol. But yes the men in my immediate social circle are not average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:25 PM |
| 3 | Guys Don't Get ItThere are guys who wait six months. I’ve had FWB who waited six months lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Guys Don't Get ItI can have sex with people I don’t love but trust. But it’s unlikely I’d trust someone deeply enough to do anything ‘crazy’ unless I really loved them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 06:47 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I always said it depended on mutuality and that it’s not black and white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 06:46 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It really depends. I don’t know anything about these scenarios other than that payment is involved in one. I don’t know why either of the women ‘want it’. This is just dependent on context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 06:20 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No. It’s not immoral of the girl being objectified. It’s immoral of the man who is objectifying her. Just like when someone steals something from you, you’re not immoral but the thief is. This is why you keep going on about this. You weirdly decided the person being improperly objectified was the immoral one. You didn’t understand my point at all. Whoosh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 06:17 AM |
| 1 | Guys Don't Get ItDo women even do this? The wildest sex I’ve had has been in relationships. This seems more like something men do to me. It’s the whole Madonna/whore thing. When they love you all they want is missionary and massages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:47 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I’m not pro sex work. I’m not a liberal feminist - I don’t think this is the gotcha conversation you think it is. I think sex work is an industry that fuels sexism and toxicity, yes. I just don’t think the workers are necessarily objectified. And I don’t think the workers are immoral - I think the industry is immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:41 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Depends on the sex work, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:37 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Are you trying to get at sex workers objectifying themselves or something? I don’t think doing sex work makes a woman an object, so I don’t really see the link, personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:35 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Did you miss where I said I don’t think all sexism is immoral? Why are you focusing on sex workers? I do think sex work is somewhat immoral but that is a separate conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:07 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I don’t think all sexism is immoral. There’s nothing in the dictionary definition of sexism that says it must be immoral - sure if you’re talking about structures of power stuff, but people on this forum aren’t generally talking about that. They like to focus on niche individual interactions and say everything is so confusing. How could you possible tell? Those middle aged men objectifying that 15yo girl might be objectifying 15yo boys, too!! You just don’t know. But yes, being a hetero woman I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 05:03 AM |
| 0 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I’m not kandyapplez! You are the second person to suggest that tho. I’m offended tbh - I thought she was really racist and awful when I was lurking. Plus I am also obviously Australian. Multiple women can be shallow lol. Charm is a requirement once you meet baseline attractiveness for me. It’s more like if I think you’re hot enough and then you’re a bore you lose points vs you gain points if you’re not quite attractive but interesting. I see what you’re saying, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:56 AM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I don’t think lifting is that important. But it goes without saying - hot people are more attractive. I’m extremely shallow, there’s no use in me lying about that. I don’t find unattractive men attractive no matter how confident they are. I’m not black pill bc a whole bunch of stuff matters to me beyond looks and what people find hot is subjective. But looks are extremely important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:41 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yes, who is to say. It’s unobservable that women are sexually objectified in ways that men aren’t. Who could ever tell. It’s not because women are ‘uncomfortable’ it’s because it’s discriminatory. Which is the literal definition of the word. And yes sexuality is inherently discriminatory and sexist. It just isn’t bad sexism/discrimination because it doesn’t automatically feed into a system of oppression. The objectification of women, tho... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:37 AM |
| 3 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Yes. Not all conservative people - but some do view sex as something ‘special’ that ought to be saved for marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:36 AM |
| 7 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Seems like RP focuses pretty heavily on lifting, getting into shape etc as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:05 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It’s sexist because it feeds into a system where men en masse and pervasively sexualise women’s bodies, particularly young women’s bodies. This makes most women uncomfortable in public on a daily basis. It leads to a society where man can move around freely in public without being objectified and women cannot. This is discriminatory. And yes the example you gave is still sexist. Unless that woman is also giving the same kind of attention to other women. It’s inherently discriminatory - it’s just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:04 AM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?It’s just the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:02 AM |
| 4 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I disagree - plenty of abnormal men out there. I’d say 10% of those people are likely conservative or religious and 20% are straight up weirdos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 04:01 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It depends. Some 14yos want sexual attention from adults for example - it is still wrong to give them that attention. The sexism is because it is discriminatory to only focus on women in this way. Men are not objectified like this by men or by women. At least not to anywhere near the same extent. But yes, I’m moralising. Do you have a problem with people having morals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:59 AM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?You were a sure thing, she wasn’t invested and was bored/in the mood for some sex? Not sure there’s too much more to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:58 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No I do understand. I just think it’s creepy. As long as you don’t complain when you get called a creep - you do you imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:57 AM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Lol yes. I’ve had a few boyfriends and have gone on dates with maybe 50+ people? I’m not fat. No one is lying to me about this to avoid hurting my feelings. Plenty of men like fat women. Literally every time I post about fitness people comment to say how they ‘like cushion’ and fitness in women is unimportant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:56 AM |
| 3 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?30% is a minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:10 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?And you’re hitting on women how old? 19-23yos are going to find you creepy lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 03:09 AM |
| 0 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?Women don’t approach unless they think they need to OR you’re a sure thing and they’re not invested/bored (what’s probably happening with you lol). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:59 AM |
| 2 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?I get that it’s hard for abnormal people to behave normally. That’s not my point. But most men don’t need RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:56 AM |
| -2 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?What are you even trying to say? 200 pounds on a 5’5 frame is obese. Fact is - plenty of men think fat women are hot. It’s not delusional for fat women to shoot their shot. Sure they might get turned down, but lots of guys like fat women. The fact that they’re approaching at all shows a level of humility tbh. And you said nothing about their proportions. For all I know they could have had great hourglass figures and your ‘tall and good looking’ friends are lanky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:54 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Because it’s unambiguously wrong when it is unwanted. It can still be wrong when it is wanted, depending on the situation. You clearly deal poorly with nuance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:37 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Lol I think 40yo men who hit on me are creepy even if they’re in shape. Sorry. The only young women who welcome this kind of attention have issues or are using you for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:08 AM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No, younger women are the ones who think this is creepy AF. Older women or unattractive women are the ones who talk about being invisible and how much they miss being catcalled. But you keep telling yourself hot young women enjoy old creeps sexualising them. Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 02:01 AM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It’s not a simple either/or answer like most human interactions. There is ambiguity. I didn’t say it’s sexist even if she wants it - I said ‘it depends, it could still be sexist’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 01:47 AM |
| 0 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?More men aren’t autistic, tho. It just expresses itself differently in men vs women. Women are under diagnosed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men get nervous around women?Lol thx for sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/20 12:18 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many men get nervous around women?Same as getting nervous before an exam or something like that. Nervousness can motivate good performance. People who get really, really anxious (especially if not teenagers) just have problems with anxiety. It’s not advantageous to them any more - they’re mentally unwell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:48 PM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No. Because the movie would still be normalising sexist and creepy behaviour. In a real life context a woman wanting that behaviour might make it okay (depends - does she have ‘daddy issues’ like the woman in the movie? Exploiting vulnerable young people is pretty gross). But men are very bad at assessing when sexual attention is/isn’t wanted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:44 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Most women think this kind of thing is creepy. You’re delusional if you think I’m some lone voice lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:29 PM |
| 15 | What is the Red Pill Equivalent For women?The only men who needed to take the Red Pill were men who failed at being normal and didn’t realise basic shit like women like good looking men. Women are less coddled about male nature and less likely to be told they should be confident about getting whatever they want. Pretty much no women are shocked that men like hot women lol. The equivalent might be naive women who didn’t realise how many people were attracted to them or that men are often dishonest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:26 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yeah not all sexism is bad imo. But it is obviously sexist. And yeah, I think maybe if men and women were both uncomfortable being in public due to being objectified it might cease to be sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:50 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Lol why all the weird hypotheticals. The making them uncomfortable part is relevant because the normalisation of men behaving like this has made simply existing in society uncomfortable for many women. It leads to society wide discrimination. Men can exist in public without being constantly objectified. Women cannot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:07 PM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I don’t care who people are attracted to. It’s just the way you act on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:04 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yes. These men are not ogling men’s asses and making them uncomfortable are they? It is discriminatory lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:59 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?I already did. Scroll through the thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:54 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yeah, it happens, so? Can I not hate Karens and creeps at the same time? Karens are annoying but I’d take them over creepy cat callers and men who invade my space any day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:53 PM |
| 6 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yes. It would still be creepy and sexist if they were gay and ogling men. It would still be creepy and sexist if it were a lesbian ogling another woman. The age gap makes it more disgusting. But standing around objectifying people with your buddies is always going to be creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:52 PM |
| 3 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It depends on the nature/vibe of the club. Same as if middle aged men go to a club with younger women dancing in their underwear (are we talking burlesque? Are we talking a drag show? Are we talking a seedy strip club where women/men are sticking 1 dollar bills in some woman/man’s underwear?) It could be is the short answer. I think the way lots of older women talk about younger men is creepy and sexist, though - this isn’t some gender flipped gotcha. It’s just that men do this shit far more per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:48 PM |
| 5 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yes. The issue is that old women aren’t being objectified and made uncomfortable. Sherlock Holmes has got it all figured out lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:44 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No that’s still sexist and creepy lol. The age does make it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:43 PM |
| 0 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yes, and? Someone else has already quoted this definition to me. It is fairly obviously discriminatory and prejudiced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:42 PM |
| 3 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?They are staring in a rather obvious way. The scene itself is normalising creeping on women half your age. As I said - if you don’t get it, you don’t get it. No normal people are ever going to think this is ‘feeeeemale solipsism’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:40 PM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It’s not about the attraction. It’s about how it’s expressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:38 PM |
| 4 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No, because that is a wanted interaction - no one would be made to feel uncomfortable, no one is creeping on anyone or objectifying anyone. It’s not a group of old men standing around ogling at and discussing the body of a woman who could be their daughter. This is like if you walk into a party full of your mom’s friends and they start staring at and making comments about your package. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:35 PM |
| 0 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Lmao yes it’s totally irrational that men who are already behaving aggressively will do something bad to women. Men never commit sex crimes or harm women in any way. I forget that men are perfect - I’m just a woman I’m too irrational to see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:31 PM |
| 5 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Yeah, this. It’s not hugely offensive as a scene - but it is sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:27 PM |
| -2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Lol you were flirting with her to get tips - different story. But. Other people are allowed to find things creepy that you don’t. Maybe you just have weird boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:22 PM |
| 5 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?No. I am not. You can find people attractive without ogling them. Plenty of straight men do it all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:19 PM |
| 0 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Lol if you say so. I think both are creepy. But older women don’t do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:14 PM |
| 2 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?Are they also ogling young men’s asses and making them feel uncomfortable in public? Seems pretty discriminatory to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:12 PM |
| 1 | At what point is a man's attraction to a woman 'sexist'?It is sexist and creepy. If you don’t see why it’s sexist and creepy for a bunch of middle aged dads to be ogling a much younger woman and for that behaviour to be normalised...well, then, you’re just never going to get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Being considered attractive as a man is harder than being considered attractive as a womanWhole bunch of uncontrollable stuff that makes a woman attractive - proportion, breast size, leg length, hip width, facial attractiveness. Men just have to be kind of tall (or at least not short) and not have faces like bridge trolls for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.I don’t think height requirements are stupid. People are attracted to what they’re attracted to. It’s not really negotiable. I’m not super attracted to short men, men with bad jawlines etc. I’m not going to date them regardless - sounds like a recipe for unhappiness. And yes, my height requirement is usually 6’ - will make exceptions if he has a great face and is 5’10, which is shorter than average where I live... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:39 PM |
| 1 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeNah, only if you’re 8. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:37 PM |
| 3 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeLol what and you’re a superhero so you’d know? You’re not a superhero, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Are women more critical of men?I was just responding to your false assertion lol. This was originally about nerdy men’s potential to be controlling, abusive etc. We’re pretty off topic now - so what is right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:10 PM |
| 3 | Are women more critical of men?No, this is not true. Narcissists don’t have low self esteem but they have fragile egos and are insecure. This is why they react so defensively to any criticism. Google ‘narcissistic injury’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:54 AM |
| 2 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeIt’s both. Source: I am a woman. I take your point that Thor is inconsistently alpha, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:52 AM |
| 4 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeWomen don’t want to fuck Thor? Women don’t want to fuck heroes generally? 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:47 AM |
| 4 | Are women more critical of men?Many ruthless leaders have also been insecure. Narcissism is literally a personality disorder borne of a very fragile ego. Narcissists are extremely insecure people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 11:44 AM |
| 10 | Are women more critical of men?I have known multiple nerdy men to be physically abusive, emotionally abusive, controlling etc. Insecurity and anxiety is often what leads people to be controlling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, you made a post about ‘men’ and how things are an issue for ‘men’. I see creepy men who can’t talk to women - but they are a minority. That is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:27 AM |
| 6 | Are women more critical of men?Eh. My friends who date nice nerds always seem to be having the worst time/the most complicated, exhausting relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No it’s easily observed how many men are socially ostracised for being creepy. It’s not the majority. It doesn’t matter if you talk about it or not - it’s observable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You framed this OP like this is a widespread problem amongst men. It’s not. It’s a problem that certain types of men have. I’m not saying you and people like you don’t have a problem - it’s just not as common as you would think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Okay, I’ve already acknowledged that it is unfortunate this happens to some people. It’s a minority of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:30 AM |
| 3 | What do Blue Pillers Believe?Not the men I know. But ‘men’ swiping right on everyone is for this reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Why do you think I’ve never approached men before? I did it all the time when I was 21-22 with no real intent - I just wanted free drinks, my boyfriend at the time thought it was funny. Yes, immature and unkind of me. Terrifying? Difficult? Nope. I’ve never approached men with any kind of serious intent because I just don’t feel the urge to. If I did - and if I were into feminine type men who enjoy being pursued - I would approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:28 AM |
| 11 | Are women more critical of men?It’s because men are coddled. Women are taught men only want one thing, blah blah from childhood. But men’s comfort is always centred - so women pretend they don’t fart, have periods etc to make sure men remain comfortable. Women acting like flawed human beings??? Shock, horror. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Most people don’t need guidance. “Be nice” is observably untrue. Look, you seem like a nice person. But you clearly struggle more than the average person does with these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It’s not because it’s risky. It’s because I genuinely never feel the urge to. Like I never see a man and think ‘I’d tap that’. So why would I approach random men? How would I even know who to approach? What risk are you really taking? Being rejected? A little bit of social shaming? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Maybe 3/20 people who approach me are creepy. They’re men who don’t know how to read social cues. I don’t get offended when men approach me. I also don’t think I don’t approach men because of my womb lol? I just don’t ever feel the urge to. Maybe a tiny minority of women want to be approached at the supermarket - the ones with closed off body language who are avoiding eye contact do not you want to be approached. It is creepy to approach people who obviously are not interested in interacting wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:03 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You don’t understand social cues in a romantic context. You have already said multiple times you find this very confusing and anxiety inducing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Do you think the majority of men are ‘very nerdy’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I think you may be the kind of person who does not read social cues well and therefore does not get why their behaviour is creepy... By your own admission you are confused by everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 05:03 AM |
| 2 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeSure, the guy I’m seeing currently is ‘alpha’ imo. He’s assertive without being a douchebag and is consistently confident. Like I said big dick energy is a vibe. It’s difficult to quantify - easier to use cultural touchstones everyone is aware of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 04:12 AM |
| 7 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeI can’t give you examples of people I know because you don’t know them lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Interesting. Glad it helped you gain some confidence. Do you find you still need PUA techniques or are you more able to just...normally converse with women? Has it started to come naturally? What made you so anxious in the first place if you don’t mind me asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 03:05 AM |
| 6 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.No it’s reflective of single women who want to get married and are unable to find a partner on their own. So people who need to use a matchmaker. Most women don’t use matchmakers. Including single women who want to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.It’s because lots of people don’t know how to vet well in their early twenties. It’s not some mystery. Same reason why lots of men keep dating crazy girls in their twenties lol. I’m a young woman - it’s never been a struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t think it’s acceptable but I also don’t think they’re serious threats. Fathers joking about hurting their daughters’ boyfriends if they don’t get them home by a certain time is not a crime lol - there’s no genuine intent. It’s just mildly problematic behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 02:41 AM |
| 4 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.No. But it is a reflection on women who use matchmaking services. Same as guys who go to PUA workshops are not representative of ‘men’. Most men don’t need to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 02:39 AM |
| 6 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.I disagree. I don’t think the majority of women struggle with finding commitment. They may just not like the men who are offering it/prefer to be alone. There’s a difference between dating apps and matchmakers. One is normalised and usually free. One is hundreds of dollars a month for introductions...when you could just use dating apps. People who use matchmakers seem like a self selecting group that would be very likely to have high standards. “I am looking for all these qualities, so hard to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 01:27 AM |
| 9 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.It means you suck so much at finding love or have such rigid requirements that you need to pay someone lots of money to find you a partner. It’s not hard to find men who want to date you as a woman. Some of those men will even be options you genuinely like. I really doubt these women are representative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I get that you don’t like approaching, but that’s irrelevant to this particular conversation. When you choose to approach you take on the risk of being called a creep. When I choose to have sex, wear an outfit, or leave my house at all, I take on the risk of being called a slut. Both of these carry social shame. Your response to that risk is ‘will never talk to women can’t stand the shame’. My response to that risk is ‘ah, well, can’t please everyone’. You are very risk averse and anxious. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.But no one does that. Awkward men are called a ‘bit weird’ not creepy, usually. Weird. If people are consistently calling you creepy you need to rethink your behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Lol the fragility haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I’m not attacking romantically unsuccessful men. They’re just not a majority of men. Do you genuinely believe 60% of men are suffering from sexlessness and extreme anxiety around women? Is this really what you have observed? Or is it more like...maybe 20% who are really struggling? Don’t just think about yourself and your friends. Think about all the men you know. If I only thought about my friends I’d think all men were Chad - this is also observably not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I have seen men like this. They’re just not a majority. I’m not doubting the existence - it’s just that they are, observably, not a majority of men. People who think a guy on a date with them touching their back is assault are also a tiny minority of women. Of course there’s context - if her body language is closed off, the date is going poorly and you shouldn’t touch her. If you’re often being called creepy it’s time to examine your behaviour and ability to read social cues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:17 AM |
| 3 | For those of you that "switched sides" Why? What information made you change your views/what was the chain of events that lead to it?For me it depends on whether the violence is controlled and justified. Any old violence is lame. Like I had to remind myself that a platonic friend of mine was a platonic friend when he punched a guy who was bothering me. My last boyfriend was a competitive boxer and watching him fight in that context was a turn on. But road rage? Getting aggressive with random men for no reason? All a turn off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:14 AM |
| 5 | Do men instinctively want to protect and provide for women?Only some women. Men are usually protecting women from other men. So it goes without saying, really, that some men also want to harm women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:08 AM |
| 17 | What do Blue Pillers Believe?Men are swiping right on everyone in the hopes of casual sex, though. That is why they are indiscriminate. They aren’t saying yes to everyone being their girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:01 AM |
| 1 | What do Blue Pillers Believe?I don’t believe there are no gender differences. I do think a lot of gendered performance in society is cultural vs biological, tho. I don’t think there’s someone for everyone. But for most people - yeah, if they want, they could find someone, compromise a bit and settle down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 12:00 AM |
| 5 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeThis is so true. I’ve always wondered why the jocks are portrayed as such dickheads in movies lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.What does that have to do with anything? I’m not just basing this off men who hit on me. It’s observably true that most men don’t have these issues. It’s maybe - maybe - 20% of men who struggle this hard. I don’t care what you go for or what beer you like lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.What does struggle mean? Everyone takes a while to find the right person - it’s not instant gratification, but that doesn’t mean people are struggling. Most men don’t struggle to approach. This is what I’m saying. The majority of men don’t think about it this deeply they just do it and don’t stress about it. You may find it very hard but a lot of men find it easy and/or even enjoy it. They especially don’t think ‘oh no someone on the internet said I can’t catcall, guess I can’t talk to women’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:07 PM |
| 6 | What would you consider to be a moral alpha archetypeEvery single Marvel movie. Thor. I think alpha is a vibe and how you carry yourself (big dick energy) and can be found in loads of professions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:04 PM |
| 12 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.I have a feeling the kind of women who need to hire a matchmaker are not representative of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:57 PM |
| 0 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?Lol okay carry on with your political screeds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I can tell when men have learned PUA or are trying on all of these new skills and I think it’s gross. No I don’t think normal people struggle and I don’t think it’s just circumstantial. I’m pretty non-neurotic and I have good self awareness about what I want and a good ability to flirt. I just didn’t have to read twenty books to get there. Flirting was natural for me and self knowledge is a process of reflection that the majority of people engage in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Maybe. I don’t think these men are anywhere close to the majority, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, I know many good corporate lawyers who are awkward people who can’t read the room. Even litigators. Corporate lawyers usually have reasonable social skills. None of my colleagues are incels - some of them do seem bitter, but they still have girlfriends, wives etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Not anywhere. But I’m not in the mood to get hit on when I’m running errands - I don’t have time, my body language is obviously closed off. Why should I care about men’s sexual gratification when I’m buying groceries? I’m not open to people randomly asking me to be friends and am also curt with salespeople who approach me in public. Most men who approach me do it respectfully and appropriately. A few weirdos approach me in the supermarket. I’m not seeing how ‘men’ are having trouble with approac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.This is based on what men have told me and the way they behave. I’m not telling you about your experiences. I’m talking about ‘normal’ people who are not super neurotic about everything. You may be super neurotic. I don’t know. Men on PPD seem to be neurotic in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Well...no, I’m a woman, I participated in the journey. Women drove MeToo and have always driven activism around increased consequences for sexual assault. My points were all about normal people - who are the majority of men. I don’t know why every dude in this thread made it about themselves and how they struggle - a lot of you seem to know you’re not ‘normal’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:33 PM |
| 1 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?Lol okay. So I guess you’re just trying to make a political statement here, too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I gave an example of a coworker asking me out and me not caring in this thread. But yeah, don’t talk to me at the gym. I’m wearing headphones and I don’t care that you think I look nice. Some girl asked the guy I’m seeing out at the gym the other day. He was mad about it too lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.So...same as when a girl gets called a slut? I’ve lost friends and been treated poorly because I have a larger than average cup size and didn’t know how to dress for that as a teen. Sometimes I turn a guy down and he threatens to kill me. It hasn’t stopped me from having sex as an adult because...it’s just background noise, really. I’m not an especially anxious person and it hasn’t affected me deeply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, seriously. Like what do you mean you ‘accidentally’ created this whole elaborate set up to corner women and then masturbate in front of them/assault them/whatever. It’s not accidental at all. We all know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:25 PM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Did she say ‘my brothers will shoot you if you bother me?’ Did her brothers say this? Honestly it’s just a threat to get you to leave their sister alone - no one is following through unless you continue to creep her out. This is really common and not to be taken super seriously. Like the trope of the dad saying he’ll kill the new boyfriend if he hurts his daughter. My brother and cousins always threatened violence against my boyfriends if they hurt me lol. They were (mostly) not serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, it’s usually that way - parents are just people doing the best they can. And no worries! I’m glad this ended up being a positive exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Plenty of women. There’s still social stigma attached to being labelled a ‘slut’. That’s why people are constantly trying to reclaim the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Women get totally socially ostracised for being ‘sluts’ all the time. And honestly? You’re not going to get totally socially ostracised for asking someone out. This is straight up paranoia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Same thing if you’re breaking down resistance - you’d get someone with poor boundaries who lacks assertiveness. Are you into this and picking up great relationship prospects? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No I don’t think they’re bad people because they don’t have normal social skills. I’m just pointing out that these are not problems most men have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:52 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It really seemed to be more about getting laid. I truly think you’d get weird options if you’re negging people etc. People with good self esteem, who are good relationship options, don’t respond well to people who play stupid games ime. Same thing if I played hard to get all the time. Like sure, I’d get guys - but I think a lot of them would likely have intimacy issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, leave me alone at the fucking grocery store. That falls under the category of ‘bothering strangers’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Make it a point to hug him and tell him you’re proud, too? I’m sorry your parents blew up at you when you made mistakes. I’m glad you’re doing better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You just call it a ‘date’ via text later. “Pick you up at 7 for our date?” Easy. My point isn’t about ‘everyone’. Of course some people don’t learn - unfortunate for them. Most men do learn, though. They’re not neurotic or anxious about approaching women and most guys do it in an appropriate way. My whole comment was ‘yes this happens to some people, but normal men do not experience this’ basically. The concerns in your OP only apply to a minority of men with poor social skills and/or anxiety is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.And one day maybe you’ll have kids with some lovely lady and give them hugs without a second thought. Here’s to breaking the cycle, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:27 PM |
| 2 | The science behind why women struggle to take responsibility and accountability for their mistakes and problemsMaybe men on the internet are not representative lol. This has been researched. Men do tend to externalise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Honestly I know nothing about PUA other than what this guy told me about it. I didn’t really concern myself with it too deeply afterwards - just another great dating story for me lol. It didn’t seem too relationship focused tho, tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.The men I identify as being the most masculine do not make me feel unsafe. Masculinity is not always toxic. A guy I’m on a date with putting his hand on the small of my back is not creepy - where are you all getting this stuff? No one thinks this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, he sleeps with women who have low self esteem and don’t really like him. Both parties involved desperate for validation. The whole thing is sad. I’m not saying it doesn’t work. I’m just saying it doesn’t work on women with normal self esteem - it’s cringe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I’m not going into more detail - paranoid someone might spot me on the internet because it’s a pretty specific story. It was in 2014. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, that sounds rough. Our childhoods really inform us as people. Having a good family is a massive leg up in life. It’s not my point to say that men who struggle are all bad people. I think you can have not amazing or ‘normal’ social skills for all kinds of reasons - I just think that most men are pretty capable of doing these things (like the men in your hobby group who can hug that girl without thinking). I do think this is an issue of social skills (but unlikely to show up as much in other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It’s fine to be shy and to have had to learn this stuff. I just don’t think this is the case for ‘most men’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t know about this. Lots of men 19-24 who hit on me... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I’m nearly 28. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:50 AM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It’s because when you say “I’m not interested” a really decent proportion of men blow up at you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:49 AM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah sure maybe a tiny minority of women are open to it - that’s still about reading the room/body language that indicates whether someone is open to talking to you. Most people smile and make eye contact before they talk to you. If you don’t respond warmly most normal men leave you alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You don’t have to be a player to do well at romantic situations lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:38 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No I’m not saying it didn’t go up. I’m saying - 30% is still a minority. A chunk of that 30% is likely to be religious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:38 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It’s not just business management. I know because I have the ‘normie’ experience of romance and have also done business management. It’s not the same. There are some parallels, but it’s very different. But sure, I take your point that for ‘non-normies’ it may feel like business management. My original point was that most normal men do not see it this way and most normal men are not terrified to approach women for fear of violating some rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Astrology, mbti, and compatibilityI think it’s easier to just feel things out and see whether or not you like someone. If someone told me they didn’t date Geminis or something I’d think they were nuts. MBTI and other personality metrics are somewhat telling, I guess (but they’re hardly scientific or fixed - my MBTI changes from from ENFP to ENFJ to ENTJ for example depending on my mood). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I really don’t think you can do that. It means there’s a huge gap in your skills. It’s like saying “I’m a really good driver but I can’t change lanes”. This thread is about ‘men’ en masse becoming terrified. So I am talking about ‘men’ - as in most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:26 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I didn’t know when I met him. I ignored him and thought he was weird and making a fool of himself. I think he told me in a last bid to get my attention - to see if I’d go on a date with him just for the story. And that worked, but the dates went nowhere - I was somewhat mean/immature when I was 22 and I really just went to make fun of him to my friends later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, but 30% is still a minority and a fair chunk of those people are probably religious and abstaining by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, I don’t think so. I went on a few dates with a somewhat famous PUA for the story. I found it all gross and lame. It’s honestly obvious and annoying. I don’t think you could call him a ‘beginner’ if people were paying him money for his ‘skills’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes, but you don’t need to learn how to flirt. Many people don’t need to learn how to flirt. It’s natural because it’s how you respond naturally when you like someone. There’s a close resemblance between ‘banter’ shared with close friends and flirting. Flirting is often just teasing with different facial expressions. It’s really not that different or difficult. Look, I get that some people struggle with this and have to actively learn it and talk to male role models. Some women also don’t unders… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:13 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, I’m talking about context and nuance. I said you talk to differently to men, too, depending on who they are. I also do not talk to men I view as romantic prospects like I do my girlfriends. I’m not going on about how some guys’ dicks look like weird triangles or whatever on first dates - men would find that off putting. It’s not ‘hard’ or ‘confusing’ for me to adjust. Men are people. I know how to talk to people/read a room. It’s the same with women - sure you might not talk to them like you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.What about the men I date? My colleagues? My friends? I likely know just as many men as you do. I don’t think these are ‘average’ men you’re talking about. Below average people without social skills? Yep, I’ve seen it. It just comes across like the men here are way more neurotic than your average man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:04 AM |
| 3 | The science behind why women struggle to take responsibility and accountability for their mistakes and problemsNo men externalise their problems. Then when they can’t cope or rage at anyone any more they implode. The men here do not take responsibility for themselves. It’s just dishonest to pretend otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:03 AM |
| 1 | "The problem is that when we love in adulthood, we are not necessarily drawn to people who will make us happy, we are drawn to people who will feel familiar."But it can’t be abusive :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah I know. I just didn’t want to engage on that point and get a ‘that’s because you’re a woman you don’t know!!!’ response. Absolutely no normal adults do this, but I figured I’d engage on his terms just to see what he said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I didn’t say you were autistic. Plenty of people who don’t have amazing social skills and aren’t autistic. I think being highly adaptable to the point where you’re almost always confident/comfortable about interactions is what makes you socially skilled. If you can’t do romantic situations imo you’re not socially skilled. What do you think you find so challenging about romantic situations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Guys who are running pick up are gross and obvious. They’ll only ever get women who have poor self esteem. The token resistance is often repulsion. Men trying to build ‘kino’ is always obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:55 AM |
| 6 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You’re a man observing women’s interactions. Women speak differently when men are around. We have our own version of locker room talk. You’re also not getting my point. Would you slap your bosses dick and pinch his nipples because he’s a man? Pants him in the middle of a meeting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:52 AM |
| 8 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No. It does not. Handsome men have creeped on me at bars and parties before. A hot bartender once asked me if I was naughty as I bought my drink. It was creepy even though he was hot and even though it was a bar because a) I had given no indication I was open to that and b) it was too overtly sexual. But yeah, it goes without saying that you will get less ‘signals’ inviting you to approach if you’re not attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:47 AM |
| 11 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Same things men want women for. Women just don’t have the same immediate visual response as men. So women are less invested - at least initially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:45 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.My point is, this is the majority of people. Maybe not on this sub, but in the world. Most men simply are not this neurotic. They don’t give these things this much thought. Women are more neurotic than men. But even most women are not this neurotic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:43 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t know why you got downvoted - I think you’re 100% correct. Flirting is my natural response to men I’m attracted to. I don’t have to think about it, read a ten step guide on the internet etc. I just do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:40 AM |
| 11 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Sex. Women don’t see men and immediately want them sexually. Men are more invested so men approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:37 AM |
| 6 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It depends on the context and the signals you are receiving. It’s generally pretty obvious when people want to talk to you. There are lots of contexts - bars, parties, art and music events - that encourage mingling, though, where approaching is usually more acceptable. How would you meet new friends? Would you walk up to strangers and say “Hey my sweater is friend material”? Seem stupid and unlikely to work? Same thing with meeting women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:31 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, it’s because those people have had endless bad experiences and are constantly venting. Lots of men are pigs. When you’re a woman, you encounter more of those men, because they are more likely to be the men who are catcalling you, harassing you etc, so you notice them more. It’s frustrating to deal with on a daily basis so people may have a lot to vent about. I don’t expect incels to centre me because they clearly don’t have the energy/capacity to do that. And it’s not just incels who do th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:26 AM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Sure. I talk to men I am romantically interested in differently to how I talk to my girlfriends, too. So what? He’s still a person, I still know how to talk to people, I’m just adapting my tone/behaviour to the context. I didn’t have to go through some complex process to ‘learn’ how to flirt - it came naturally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.They did, though. No one thinks about it actively. You just go about your life and you acquire the social skills required to do this by the time you’re like 15. It’s not ‘trial and error’ - it’s more like a transferable skill. If you’ve talked to boys and girls, made friends before, you can adapt those skills and use them in a romantic context. That is, if you are an adaptable person in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:22 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes, so an inability to read the room due to poor social skills/bad understanding of social cues. And what happens if you get called a creep really? You asked a woman out at a party and she thinks it’s creepy? Big fucking deal - guys get 3 month sentences for rape. This is a serious example of catastrophising - men who are held back by this fear have issues with anxiety. It’s like me never ever having sex with anyone ever or only wearing burqas to avoid being called a slut. Sure, there are women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:19 AM |
| 6 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Women just care less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:16 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.People are allowed to vent about their dating problems, men and women, and talk about the shitty experiences they are having without centring members of the other sex whom they are dating. I could just as easily say it’s male solipsism that you all complain about dating crazy women (and it kind of is, but it’s unhelpful). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:15 AM |
| 11 | The science behind why women struggle to take responsibility and accountability for their mistakes and problemsWomen are more likely to internalise problems and blame themselves for their own failures than men. Men externalise problems. This is why the neurotic men on PPD think they’re sexless because of women, not because of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:48 AM |
| 1 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?Okay. Why do you have an issue with that? I don’t think male neuroses being annoying has anything to do with politics but your mileage may vary lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:45 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yeah, I’m talking more about getting a leg up to get into the game in the first place. Although it is also an easier path to the C-suite when you have those kinds of connections from what I have seen. I would say my definition of ‘wealthy’ isn’t based on per year income - it’s based on whether or not you have to work (eg myself, I have been gifted several million dollars worth of property so my income doesn’t particularly matter - I would say I’m upper middle class though, not wealthy, because I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes. But learning it early on and without thinking about it does mean it comes naturally for most men. People who struggle as adults are not ‘normal’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:31 AM |
| 1 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?I was referring to a general you - not you specifically. I’m not the poster you’re thinking of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t care how hot you are, if you bother me at the supermarket or honk at me from your car, I hate your guts and will call you a creep. Hot tradespeople cat call me all the time. Do not appreciate it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:26 AM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, bothering strangers in public is often harassment. If you don’t understand why the majority of random women don’t want to be bothered you can’t read the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I think that aspect of MeToo is a beat up. It’s really not that ‘confusing’ imo. People know when they’re pushing boundaries - lots of them don’t care. We don’t need conversations about how to read the room. We need conversations about why pushing other people’s boundaries is not acceptable and consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes. Most men aren’t terribly shy though. They want to ask you out, so they do. They want to kiss you, so they do. Most men can pick up signals from women that indicate interest with accuracy. I’ve always known when someone was attracted to me - women can read this in men’a faces and body language too. It’s not that complex for a lot of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:21 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, but this is not normal. This is not how normal men feel. This is how awkward people who don’t ‘get it’ and have to learn as adults feel. I’m sure it comes across as normal once you’ve learned it all. But most people really don’t have to give it this much thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:19 AM |
| 8 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes. I am a corporate lawyer and I know many corporate lawyers with a poor ability to read the room. I know many who are comfortable in a courtroom but not in a bar or nightclub. Romantic relationships are far more fluid and less rule based. That said I don’t know any lawyers who genuinely struggle like the men on this forum. And I know a lot of lawyers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:18 AM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes. I am the only girl in my family. I grew up with a brother and 8 male cousins - we are close. Dating came easily to all of them, they have all had girlfriends from about the age of 14 onwards. I spent more time with boys than I did with girls growing up - not awkward, nerdy boys. Normal boys. I have also gone on dates with a lot of men. None of them had issues with approaching me. I know this is an easy line for many men to draw because in real life the men I know think the Gillette commerci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:12 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It is a skill most people get because you practice it from childhood onwards. I don’t see how ‘Would you be open to grabbing dinner with me sometime? No pressure’ could ever be harassment or assault, although it could be creating a hostile work environment if you’re someone’s boss (don’t ask out your subordinates. This would apply to me asking out the male intern, too). I don’t think being friendly is enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:09 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I think this is 100% accurate. None of these men seem to be ‘baseline normal’ to me. They’re people who needed to learn how to act normally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:07 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It is subjective. It is experienced by individual people. Not harassing people involves reading the room well. Harassment is unwanted behaviour. Not harassing people is also very simple and you won’t get fired for say, politely asking someone out. If you can’t read the room well stick to ‘Would you like to get dinner with me sometime’ rather than ‘god your ass looks amazing’ - especially when at work. Actually if you’re a socially confused person just don’t hit on anyone at work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:03 AM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I think it is real but is only real for people with poor social skills, inability to see nuance or perhaps serious anxiety issues (which...refer back to point 1 about social skills). This is not a broad problem men have. Men are still approaching women all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 07:01 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No. That’s not what I said - you clearly don’t understand what microaggressions are and are unwilling to adapt your behaviour. That’s fine, but don’t be surprised when people don’t like you for it. You always have to consider how your words may be interpreted when you speak. The onus isn’t on other people to work out your intentions all the time or constantly give you the benefit of the doubt - especially people who don’t really know you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes, so - don’t bother strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:58 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Lots of people with no social skills have good jobs and friends. Especially in certain fields. I used to work with engineers and lots of them had awful social skills but were professionally successful and had friends with similar personalities. I’m not trying to be harsh, but the corporate world has ‘rules’ and is a lot easier to navigate for people who are ‘confused’ by everything for that reason. The friends thing is because these men often find other people like them to be friends with (usual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.No, it’s due to your interpretation of the issues, not the framing. Most men are not socially clueless and the framing hasn’t impacted their ability to talk to women at all. I grew up with a brother - all my cousins are male. This is not a ‘men’ problem. This is a people with no social skills problem. You are a self identified socially clueless person. It’s not confusing. You’re confused. I don’t think women who are trying to vent about their dating issues should have to centre the experiences a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:54 AM |
| 7 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.If you think like this then you can’t read the room as well as you think you can. I’ve disliked flirting from men and simply not responded without thinking they’re creeps or chauvinistic. It’s only when you come on too strong or continue that you become a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:52 AM |
| 11 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah 100% - reads like people who know nothing about people. I know no men in real life who would take up arms to preserve their right to catcall lol. Everyone thinks it’s gross and only the worst kind of guys do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:50 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Women aren’t cordial and quaint with each other. They also tease each other - that’s just being friends with people. I really get the sense that you don’t know very women well at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:48 AM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Lots of people can be professionally competent and make friends with others like them without being truly socially skilled. Are you in STEM by any chance? I find lots of STEM dudes who think they have social skills really don’t - they have a bunch of ‘rules’ for how to approach situations that work professionally and with making friends with similar people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:55 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.You have to be able to read the room. There are no rules. This is what nuance means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:52 AM |
| 0 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Lol sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:52 AM |
| 15 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Women are just people. All people are different. You don’t talk to all men the same way, either. Socialising requires understanding context. This is what I mean by nuance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:07 AM |
| 6 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah I don’t see how this isn’t stop bothering people and catcalling strangers. You can stop with microaggressions without ceasing to talk to women. I just don’t think the majority of people are this neurotic to begin with. I know I might occasionally commit a microaggression against say, a person of colour. I expect to be called out and learn. I don’t freeze and cease interacting with those people at all - that is an abnormal and unhealthy level of fragility and anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:06 AM |
| 8 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t necessarily trust men’s self assessment of their own social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:02 AM |
| 1 | "The problem is that when we love in adulthood, we are not necessarily drawn to people who will make us happy, we are drawn to people who will feel familiar."Buddhist monks can also be abusive... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 01:01 AM |
| 9 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.There are no clear answers. This stuff is all grey space and ambiguity. My point is that most people know how to navigate grey space and ambiguity because most people can read the room. It’s the same as making friends. There’s no formula, not everyone is going to like you blah blah. Being a decent human just means treating others with baseline respect and I think it does increase your chances of getting laid as long as that’s not your whole personality. Nice is not a personality. Really the fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 12:59 AM |
| 5 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yes, but romantic relationships aren’t business management. They’re far more fluid and require more adaptability and ability to read the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 12:54 AM |
| 2 | "The problem is that when we love in adulthood, we are not necessarily drawn to people who will make us happy, we are drawn to people who will feel familiar."Based on your posts, I’m really not sure you understand what ‘abusive’ is. Monks can also be abusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:53 PM |
| 18 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t think this is true at all. Most blue pill men don’t need to find the red pill because they understand nuance. They don’t need an online forum to convince them they’re an edgelord before they can flirt or ask you out. ‘Gynocentric lies’ usually just means ‘my weird interpretation of some perfectly normal thing’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:51 PM |
| 18 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yet to meet a guy who was genuinely very socially skilled and an absolute dud at romance. This stuff comes naturally to most men, even if they are nervous at first. They don’t need to ‘learn’ scripts for how to talk to women, because women are just people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:49 PM |
| 58 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Yeah, I’m genuinely baffled by this stuff. All the men I know irl think catcalling and hitting on women inappropriately is gross. No one thinks ‘oh this means I cannot talk to women now’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:43 PM |
| 25 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.It’s really not, though. And if you interpret it that way - you’re bad with nuance or social skills as I said above. Normal men still approach all the fucking time in incredibly appropriate ways. If you can’t read signals well - you shouldn’t approach people at work. But the manner of the approach really changes the whole thing. One of my colleagues asked me out after I broke up with my boyfriend. I said no, because I don’t date people I work with, and that was that. He just said “Hey, would you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:34 PM |
| 122 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I don’t think normal men interpret it this way. There are a whole bunch of people who really don’t find any of this complex and don’t interpret ‘stop bothering and catcalling strangers’ as ‘never express interest’. I think this is mostly an issue for men whose social skills/understanding of nuance is kind of poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:19 PM |
| 2 | "The problem is that when we love in adulthood, we are not necessarily drawn to people who will make us happy, we are drawn to people who will feel familiar."Harmless betas can also be abusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:09 PM |
| 8 | "The problem is that when we love in adulthood, we are not necessarily drawn to people who will make us happy, we are drawn to people who will feel familiar."It’s actually really common for men who are genuinely abusive to only escalate once they have isolated their victim. So following moving in together, getting married, moving away from her family. There are usually red flags before that - but women who have been raised to view toxic love as normal are unable to spot these flags. They tend to only notice they’re being abused or the relationship is toxic when things get physical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:07 PM |
| 3 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?Ime guys who men on reddit would describe as ‘assholes’ are angels to me. Yes, I can observe that they are occasionally dickheads to other men, but why would I care? And why would I stop dating them - they’re good to me. I find neurotic men with emotional problems and chips on their shoulders to be pretty bad partners in the long term. My last boyfriend was amazing on paper - but he was neurotic and it made him behave really weirdly and passive aggressively. It ultimately killed all of my attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 10:01 PM |
| 3 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?It’s probably because they are deeply drawn to toxic people as a result of growing up in toxic households. Or their first boyfriend was abusive and now their‘type’ is set like that. These women likely think AMALT just like the broken men on this sub think AWALT. To them there is no choice - date shitty, emotionally unintelligent men or be forever alone (which I’m about, but lots of people find the thought terrifying). Trauma bonding is very complex. It’s not really something most people can just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Is the obsession with male height cultural?I’m talking about the preferences we have today. There are biological drivers but 6’0 and 100lbs are definitely cultural. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 09:41 PM |
| 3 | Another Post About HeightOkay I’ll laugh at you with him 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 01:36 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.It’s not working for a family company or being gifted a family company...it’s just connections. It’s as simple as, say, my father did business with a partner at a top law firm. He ended up being a family friend. When I started law school he set up meetings for me with a bunch of people he thought might make good mentors and when I applied for a job at his firm, I got it. Might have been based on merit - also might not have been and in fact I suspect it was not. I have family members in the judic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 12:48 AM |
| 1 | What is it about Chads that make you like them so much?Who doesn’t like attractive men? Besides - pretty much every man I know is ‘Chad’ by the standards of this sub lol. I feel more comfortable around good looking, confident men than around dweeby nerds - more my kind of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/20 12:28 AM |
| 3 | Another Post About Height6’0. 5’10-11 is fine if he has a great face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Why do women do not communicate clearly about their feelings and keep multiple options at the same time and later friendzone the less desired partner?Men are exactly the same. Sometimes you can push through - but they’ll never like you as much as you like them. Or they’ll only like you because the other person they were speaking to dropped out of the race. People do know what they want and they do text you back if they like you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 09:43 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.You’ve never met people with family connections who could set them up with a job, regardless? I saw the same thing in the US/similar type of people with similar types of backgrounds when I lived in NYC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do women do not communicate clearly about their feelings and keep multiple options at the same time and later friendzone the less desired partner?Yeah when she stops replying it’s because she’s just not that into you. It’s not a mixed signal - it’s actually pretty clear lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:31 PM |
| 2 | Why do women do not communicate clearly about their feelings and keep multiple options at the same time and later friendzone the less desired partner?Yeah that’s highly unusual and most people would not find it ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:30 PM |
| 4 | Why do women do not communicate clearly about their feelings and keep multiple options at the same time and later friendzone the less desired partner?Yeah, this is really true. It took me years to figure out not to treat dudes like female friends. The vast majority of men take this as some kind of sexual invitation lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 08:24 AM |
| 9 | Why do women do not communicate clearly about their feelings and keep multiple options at the same time and later friendzone the less desired partner?Lol. Men do this too. When you’re ‘dating’ - almost everyone is dating multiple people these days until exclusivity is established. You don’t spell this stuff out because it’s assumed. Men do it too. Don’t like a girl? Slow fade. No one communicates like this ‘I don’t like u and have friendzoned you’. The mystery is part of the fun of dating. It sounds like you’re reading a lot into signals that aren’t there. ‘Mixed signals’ is often people clutching at straws, trying to find some reason to thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Is the obsession with male height cultural?It’s 100% cultural. But so is the obsession with very thin female bodies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 06:33 AM |
| 0 | Belle Delphine's new videoYeah, but so do other markets of less unappealing men. Literally my only point - I see what you’re getting at and I don’t disagree. But women who want to do this kind of thing for money are a niche. Women who want to target gamers are a niche within that niche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 06:31 AM |
| 2 | Belle Delphine's new videoYeah, I’m sure there are women who need guides on how to be normal - there just seem to be far fewer of them. Dating does seem to have come naturally to most of the men I know. It hasn’t been some mission to get options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 06:27 AM |
| -1 | Belle Delphine's new videoNo but a gamer’s attention is worth less. I applaud this woman’s business savvy but I just don’t think it has much appeal for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Belle Delphine's new videoMen who have options have to do the same thing. I have conversations like this with my male friends and have had conversations like this with my brother in the past - when you have options and you want something meaningful, filtering is absolutely the most important thing. I don’t think my brother has ever thought about dating in terms of a ‘self-improvement’ strategy. It’s always just been ‘oh who am I most compatible with?’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 05:40 AM |
| -1 | Belle Delphine's new videoYeah but that’s like...very, very few women. Even if I did want a subset of men to throw money at me - I wouldn’t pick gamers. Like of all the men you could choose...I just don’t get it lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 05:37 AM |
| 5 | Belle Delphine's new videoYeah, I got that part. I just wasn’t sure where FDS learning from her in terms of their own strategy came into it. I think just a weird interpretation of the goals of that sub - seems pretty common amongst men on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 03:46 AM |
| 4 | Belle Delphine's new videoBut women aren’t ‘interested’ in moody guitar players. They are attracted to them. You’re right. Women are attracted to men. Men are often looking for a watered down version of themselves, especially ‘nerdy’ men. Ime, though, most men are attracted to women who like fashion and fitness. They don’t realise that these are hobbies they’re just like ‘oh she looks good!’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 01:38 AM |
| 9 | Belle Delphine's new videoI think you’ve misunderstood the point of FDS (from what I’ve seen anyway). The point is to get something authentic and genuine from someone who consistently treats you well. The point is not to have something shallow where men throw gifts at you. This is very easy for any somewhat attractive woman to achieve - it doesn’t require a strategy because men will simply offer. It’s like getting offered free drinks at a bar or allowing that cute barista to make your coffees free of charge - you don’t n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Belle Delphine's new videoThat thread isn’t about conforming to women’s interests. It’s about conforming to what women find attractive - ie be a moody guitar player. Women who find moody guitar players attractive are not usually moody guitar players themselves. I don’t care if my partner shares my hobbies beyond fitness (and even then, all good if you do different stuff to me, I really just want you to be fit), but something like being a gamer will make me next you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Belle Delphine's new videoI’m genuinely trying to understand your point - not argue with you. At this point it seems like you just didn’t think through what you wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Should the age of consent be raised?Nah. The age of consent is fine. Nothing wrong with 18yos having sex with people around their own age. No need to police young people just to deal with creeps. Creeps will just get called creeps and that will deter most of them/that’s what families and friends are for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/20 12:01 AM |
| 11 | Belle Delphine's new videoWhat do you mean, regardless? FDS doesn’t seem at all interested in gaming men out of money like this. And they don’t seem interested in ‘settling’ with men like this either. Why would you ‘learn’ from someone you have zero interest in emulating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 11:55 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.My family’s wealth is quite a lot older than three generations - and that may be the point of disconnect - but I haven’t seen a lot of what you’re talking about. Everyone I grew up with has remained hyper privileged into adulthood. Even the ones who had wild phases or fucked up academically have excellent jobs now. A couple of really messed up kids are living on their trust funds, but they’re a minority. I don’t feel guilty about my privilege - it is what it is. It doesn’t come up often in my da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 11:43 PM |
| 11 | Belle Delphine's new videoI don’t get it. FDS seem to want to be liked for who they are - not create personas to get money from men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 11:32 PM |
| 7 | Belle Delphine's new videoNo. Women want to be liked for themselves, too. Pretending to like something in order to be more appealing to men is dumb - men are already interested in her most likely. Gamers are also not an especially appealing group of men. How many women actively want gamers? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 11:31 PM |
| 3 | If short women were treated like short men, would it be seen as a more serious social issue?Uh short men do treat short women as if their being short is a bad thing ime. Guys under 5’6 are the only people who have ever commented about my height making me less attractive - weird neg, but okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Do you think most women are capable of having real orgasms?Yeah I bought a vibrator to have fake orgasms. Standard fEmaLe behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 01:24 PM |
| 4 | Do you think most women are capable of having real orgasms?I’d believe that you’ve never seen it :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?I’ll believe it when I see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?“Lol” Ded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?Paying for my dinner is a bit different to straight up asking a boyfriend for money. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?Eh. I’m not sure this is it. I’ve never had a man directly say whether he preferred how I looked with/without make up. I would find that incredibly strange (but I barely ever wear make up so no need to try and make me feel relaxed lol). This is based on how they respond to me. I get more compliments and lovey dovey behaviour from boyfriends when I’m barefaced and more attention from strangers when I’m made up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 05:08 AM |
| 6 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?I would not. You didn’t answer any of my questions. Have you ever even been in a relationship? You sound like you’re 12 lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Women are complaining men don't want to commit. But what do you have to offer exactly? Do you think the problem is only due to men, or might also be tied to what the average modern woman has to offer?Lol maybe cosmo’s actual readership is incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Women are complaining men don't want to commit. But what do you have to offer exactly? Do you think the problem is only due to men, or might also be tied to what the average modern woman has to offer?Rich, tall men like commitment too. It’s not that much harder than with normal men lol. I’ve never heard of a woman getting pregnant and the guy didn’t want to commit. It’s usually the woman who elects to stay single and co-parent - but this could be a class thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 03:05 AM |
| 6 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?Why would I ask a boyfriend for money? Wtf. Why would me wearing make up vs not wearing make up change the outcome? When I say prefer I don’t mean they say it. I mean they’re more lovey dovey and give me more compliments when I don’t wear make up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 02:57 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Lol this is so weird to me - you respect/don’t respect men based on the perceived manliness of the sports they play? I don’t care as long as they’re actually manly lol. I think it’s good to give your kids a better starting point. But at a certain point generational wealth gets disgusting imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 02:50 AM |
| 4 | Why would a girl choose casual hookups over real love that's available, and what makes her change her mind?Yeah. Reading this guy’s comments...he was obviously a horrible boyfriend who probably messed this girl up and has given her significant trust issues. She’ll get over it in a while and know which red flags to look for next time. This doesn’t ruin people’s ability to pair bond. But it does ruin them for abusers in the long term if they learn what red flags to look out for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 02:08 AM |
| 4 | Why would a girl choose casual hookups over real love that's available, and what makes her change her mind?Lol exactly this. He treats her poorly and she’s ‘too shallow’. What a catch this guy is. Impossible to see why she doesn’t want him back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Would you change your sex if you could?I think we just disagree re: whether distress is present in certain cases. That’s fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 01:03 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: What Do Women Want Men ForWhich straight women don’t want to have sex with men they find attractive? Wtf. Commitment is about having a companion for life. Someone who meets your needs emotionally and physically. That’s why people of both genders want to commit. It’s really not difficult to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:25 AM |
| 8 | Why would a girl choose casual hookups over real love that's available, and what makes her change her mind?No, it’s not vague at all. She is more attractive than all of your other options to you. Crystal clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:19 AM |
| 4 | Social media shows women have little to offer except their bodies‘I never stated they weren’t human - I just think it’s perfectly acceptable to treat them like they’re not.’ This plausible deniability is not working well for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 12:18 AM |
| 6 | Why would a girl choose casual hookups over real love that's available, and what makes her change her mind?She won’t get back together with you. When someone reaches this point, the relationship is well and truly done. And reading your comments you only want her back because you’ve since realised you can’t get girls who are as attractive. Just move on. ‘I failed to find someone as good as you, so now I want you back’ isn’t convincing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:53 PM |
| 12 | Why would a girl choose casual hookups over real love that's available, and what makes her change her mind?You made her think relationships weren’t worth it. Now she’d rather just hook up - less painful. She gets some sex and he doesn’t get to treat her like shit over a long period of time while claiming to ‘love her’. She sounds like everyone ever who has come out of a bad relationship and is still processing. Men and women both do this. It’s the most common reason for sleeping around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:32 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.No football means rugby here! The footy is rugby. We say soccer for soccer lol. I make over six figures in USD, too. I don’t need to invest a ton or think about how to manage my finances - I’ve had a system set up for me my whole life, I just kind of follow the same system now and it all works. The benefits of being gifted significant assets/generational wealth. I could retire now if I wanted to, really. I don’t think there’s a big difference between signing up for a sports team and agreeing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Women are driven by emotions and therefore easily guided/manipulated in leftwing politics.Ironic. Because this whole post seems illogical, founded on mere assertion and driven by an emotional response to current events. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:14 PM |
| 18 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?Anecdotally my boyfriends think I am most beautiful with no make up on and tend to prefer that look on me. Strangers - nah, they prefer make up. I think it must be something to do with knowing someone and loving their face vs ‘reading’ someone as put together or ticking boxes for attractive presentation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:09 PM |
| 0 | What, exactly, is this great disconnect between what you give in a relationship versus what you receive?Nope. Where I live is an absolute bubble of wealth. But the population does skew young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 11:04 PM |
| 4 | What, exactly, is this great disconnect between what you give in a relationship versus what you receive?Lol my ex (a man) studied stupid artsy social sciences. Was earning 200k+ a year by 26. This is some weird science/math nerd revenge fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:56 PM |
| 1 | What, exactly, is this great disconnect between what you give in a relationship versus what you receive?Where I live, stats indicate that women are breadwinners/primary income earners in 40% of households. That’s a lot of female breadwinners. I suspect this is highly location dependent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your sex if you could?Slightly preferring to be the opposite sex indicates a level of gender dysphoria imo. It indicates that you are distressed in your own body even if you haven’t squared with that. If this is a ‘I would like to see what it’s like to be a woman for a day’ thing then - whatever. That’s not gender dysphoria but this thread was not about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:45 PM |
| 13 | Women are complaining men don't want to commit. But what do you have to offer exactly? Do you think the problem is only due to men, or might also be tied to what the average modern woman has to offer?Yeah I find this is my issue, as well. Guys want to commit way sooner than women ime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Would you change your sex if you could?Yes, you can have mild gender dysphoria. It’s a spectrum. I just happen to have absolutely none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:17 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Nope. I’m in my late twenties and work a demanding job (usually a 50-60hr week) making well over six figures whilst also completing a postgrad degree. My last boyfriend was in his late twenties through to early thirties and also worked a demanding job earning 2-3x as much as I do and working longer hours. I’m talking about very busy people, generally speaking. I also lift and can deadlift/squat more than twice my own body weight. The men I seriously date are not usually runners - love marathoner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 10:05 PM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I’m not sure that’s true. Athletic men seem more likely to date women who aren’t athletic vs women who are athletic. Tall, hot, fit, intelligent men are not exactly a ‘niche’ subculture lol. I think your political views are silly so your mileage may vary. It sounds like this woman just has different opinions to you, nothing too crazy about it - this is all on your cousin tbh if it genuinely does ‘ruin him’. Which it likely won’t - exploring some different viewpoints is fine lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 09:12 AM |
| 12 | Getting attractive men as a women is not nearly as easy as some guys on here make it out to be.In my observation, a man’s attractiveness has zero to do with whether or not he will commit. One of my friends is an actual model and extremely conventionally beautiful - she dates the weirdest looking men, I honestly have no idea why, and they always have commitment issues. She is objectively much better looking than them, is often as smart and earns as much. She just doesn’t vet very well and is always willing to over rationalise signs that someone is not that into her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Do women like planning out dates?Eh. I only ever pay for a date when I have zero interest in seeing the man again. But I don’t feel like I owe anyone anything for wanting to take me out on dates and covering them - I see it as a gift, it’s meant to be freely given and generate good will. Reciprocity, not transaction. That’s fine. You can date people like that. I don’t see why the issue is? No one is forcing you to take on a masculine role if you don’t want to. I’d add that I’m ‘interested’ in the men I date - expecting them to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:57 AM |
| 0 | Getting attractive men as a women is not nearly as easy as some guys on here make it out to be.Crazy lol. No way those guys are getting dates with those girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:47 AM |
| 0 | Getting attractive men as a women is not nearly as easy as some guys on here make it out to be.They don’t know how to measure attractiveness properly. Just look at truerateme. Heaps of weird looking guys no one would swipe right on getting ‘6.5, model tier’ from other men. Heaps of women who could actually model getting ‘5.0 average, weird eyelids’ from the same guys. They’d genuinely believe that guy was ‘dating down’ because of his gf’s eyelids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:39 AM |
| 2 | Do you agree with FDS teaching on women not dating older men?Lol exactly why are so many people here looking for the internet to validate their dating choices? Just do what you want, you don’t need permission. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:29 AM |
| 2 | Is being overweight a dealbreaker?It’s a dealbreaker for me but you would likely consider me skinny, so not particularly relevant to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:23 AM |
| 4 | Does the number of sexual partners your bf has had bother you?I have no idea how many women the guy I’m currently dating has slept with. I’m assuming a lot because he’s beautiful, but I could be wrong. I don’t care. He’s clearly not sexually compulsive/using sex to fill some emotional void and validate his self worth - that’s really all that matters to me. I wouldn’t date a virgin or a man my age who has only slept with one or two people. Just seems too difficult and a likely indicator of values clash - of course for the right person I’d probably break thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:17 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.What you quoted is not exclusively about men here lol. It doesn’t prove your point at all, tiny peanut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:13 AM |
| 3 | Women that complain about men that they're disinterested in approaching them, should APPROACH MEN.Because the men I’m interested in approach me. I’ve never needed to approach men. I just don’t want weirdos to bother me when I’m trying to live my daily life - most men don’t do this. Men who do this are really weird and so are women who respond to this imo. I really don’t care if the occasional ugly guy takes a polite crack at a bar or nightclub, I’ll just tell him I’m not interested and move on with my life. It’s just a pain to be interrupted by men when I’m trying to get stuff done and am no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:08 AM |
| 0 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Not what I was doing. Work on your reading comprehension - your insults really lack zing otherwise lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 04:01 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Lol yeah look - 99% of men are non starters for me. It’s a constant wonder to me that I find anyone to date at all. I’d say stop blaming the girl. Sounds like this is either what he wants or he has poor boundaries and an underdeveloped sense of self/some serious emotional confusion going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/20 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Do women like planning out dates?Do you really think this? Dates are really take it or leave it for me. I’m not interested in men in the same way they’re interested in me. If I never went on a first date with a guy again I’d be fine with it and would probably just live my life. You’re not an object to be bought or rented because someone shows some generosity when they invited you out. No one is going to have sex with you because you bought them dinner and some drinks lol. I do this with interns when I invite them out for coffee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 08:56 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Well you know what you deserve lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 08:53 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.U got me. It’s because I care about you very deeply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 06:50 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.You can tell yourself that if you want. I’m not invested lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 06:37 AM |
| 4 | With marriages dropping to record lows in the west, what big changes do you think will happen?You’re a very clever boy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 06:36 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.You’re literally whinging right now and proving my point lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 06:35 AM |
| 4 | With marriages dropping to record lows in the west, what big changes do you think will happen?Nothing says racist idiot like bringing up IQ in the context of race :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 06:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.I just don’t take ridiculous things people say seriously. Say something less ridiculous and I might debate you. Otherwise I’m all about the laughs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 05:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.You clearly don’t understand when someone is making fun of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 04:30 AM |
| 0 | Do women like planning out dates?I tend to think this is actually men who are really ungenerous and focus on everything being equal all the time, without noticing how it isn’t really equal. Women risk more when they go on dates and generally spend more time on their appearance - the man has usually explicitly asked her to spend time with him and therefore wants the interaction more. People who insist on being ‘egalitarian’ in this way are the same kind of people who will ask for a 50/50 split all the time when they earn 3x as m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 04:13 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.If he told you he’d be late with your taxes for whatever reason you’d scream ‘but you’re just a tool to me!!! I objectify you!!!!’ So edgy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 03:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.Yes, I’m the one who doesn’t understand what the word means. You are perfectly normal lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/20 12:24 AM |
| 9 | With marriages dropping to record lows in the west, what big changes do you think will happen?Nothing much. It will just become more accepted that lots of people prefer to stay single. Migration will be used to fill the gap and prevent most Western countries ending up with extreme ageing population type issues. It will also be used to ensure continued economic growth. So basically what is already happening now in a lot of places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:49 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.Yes, sending someone your tax papers is ‘objectifying’ them. The melodrama knows no end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.Why? The men I date are literally doing the same thing as my assistant the first few dates. Organising places for me to go. Often restaurants. Why are they ‘objectifying’ me by doing this task and she isn’t? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:41 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.You just continue to demonstrate how well adjusted you are :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:19 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.She doesn’t have no agency just because I lead. Similarly women do not have no agency just because men lead. And what men consider ‘leading’ is often what my assistant does for me. Is she objectifying me because she plans my meetings and events for me? I trust her judgement and have delegated that role to her. I guess I’m an object with no agency now! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.I’m not a troll just because you disagree with me. Are you going to have a cry about fascism again too? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.What am I going to do about it? Egg them? I just think it’s gross. I think 25 is a child as compared to 40. Other people can think otherwise - but I think they’re fooling themselves. These relationships do contain a huge power imbalance and are gross. You’re talking about sex and short term considerations (are they fun? Are they hot?). A relationship is more then just sex and fun, unless it’s very casual. I don’t care if 40yo women have ONS with hot 20yos they take home from the club - that’s wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.I don’t care who you would have banged lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:59 PM |
| 0 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.I think it’s because there’s a huge power imbalance. I think 20yo men are hotter than men 25+. But I still date in my age range because if I were to date a 21yo there would be a huge power imbalance. It would feel like I was dating a child and that would feel viscerally disgusting to me - I’m only 28. So when people in their thirties and forties date people in their early twenties I just think they’re gross and everyone involved is kind of fucked up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:57 PM |
| -3 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.I’m in my twenties lol. I don’t care what people masturbate to. This post isn’t about what porn people watch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Why do woman get so upset and offended, when a man decides to date and actively pursue woman younger than him, no ones forcing anyone to be in a non consensual relationship.I just think it’s gross. I thought it was also gross when my 25yo male acquaintance married a 40yo woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:46 PM |
| 15 | CMV: Women don't want to be treated like a person and a man doing so is counterproductive to both of their desires.Leading someone is not ‘objectification’. By this definition I’m objectifying my assistant because I tell her what her tasks at work are. This whole post is such melodrama. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Instead of complaining about men being "players", why don't you simply stop giving those guys a chance with you?Yeah I don’t mind - I think it’s unnecessary, but I’m used to it by now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:29 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.No, but now that you bring it up you do seem overly invested in my dating choices 😂 I think it’s weird your default response when anyone says they don’t date a type of man is ‘but you couldn’t pick me!!!’ Just seems like you’re highly invested in thinking you could lie your way into dating almost anyone and it upsets you to hear someone may be able to exclude men like you from their dating pool. Shrug. Not all doctors need to provide abortions. All doctors need to be able to provide information … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Instead of complaining about men being "players", why don't you simply stop giving those guys a chance with you?Lol yeah a friend of mine once knocked out a guy who was being inappropriate towards me. I was shocked and horrified that was his response - but I really think this one kind of just is what it is with certain men. My brother is definitely never going to like anyone I date initially lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 09:11 PM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Two decades is not very long. You just said 3D printing is set to replace a lot of manufacturing jobs - and then said someone will need to build machines. They won’t - industries like welding are going to become non-existent or artisanal (just like carpentry did when we all started buying our furniture from IKEA). If you’re talking about engineers sure - lots of low level engineering work is likely to be automated, as well, though. And engineers are a tiny fraction of the workforce - it doesn’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 03:12 PM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.I know it’s a popular topic at the moment. It just seems like clutching at straws to me as I said above and I don’t think boys will catch up no matter how we change the system. Unless we dumb everything down and make it about who can jump around in class the most to really ‘cater’ to them lol. I don’t have a study on hand, but I’m sure you would be screaming about marginalisation if 90% of books studied in schools were by and about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Attention women who are against their partners watching porn. Why do you not approve?Women usually starfish when they’re not into the sex and just want it to be over quickly. You might want to figure out why all of your sexual experiences are this way - most women do not watch porn, so it isn’t porn. I agree porn would likely be bad for women, too. I think it’s just bad for sex. I don’t have a sister, but yeah, sure. Just don’t tell me about it. Fantasy is fantasy. It’s not ideal but I think it is better than porn if he’s just ‘thinking’ about something. I’m sure people lie abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 03:03 PM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Yeah, I think that’s a good distinction. What’s the point of gaining ‘commitment’ from someone who doesn’t bring value to your life? I think that’s most women’s biggest dating dilemma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:56 PM |
| 0 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Would you change your sex if you could?No. I wouldn’t want to live in a man’s body - that would feel awful and wrong to me because I am a woman. As I said, I do not have gender dysphoria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Lol I think you should control for lifestyle. Which would account for the detrimental financial impact children usually have. I think you should also control for children. But if finances are a side effect then so are kids - may as well control for nothing lol. You’re the one who’s gung ho about not controlling for lifestyle at all because you think marriage universally makes you wealthier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:45 PM |
| 11 | Would you change your sex if you could?No. I’m not trans. I don’t have gender dysphoria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.I’d be fine. I’m mostly set for life. I wouldn’t have to do that as a single person, though. Because I wouldn’t have children as a single person. Children are a more common side effect of being married vs being single. All that consistent sex you know? This is irrelevant in any case. In the scenario I mentioned, my lifestyle would not be getting better due to getting married. It would be getting worse. This scenario is not uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.I’m saying women have less leisure time than men. If she works 40 hours, he works 48 hours and she then does 10 hours of labour at home to his 1 - she has 1 hour less of leisure time than he does. The women who complain about this are usually ambitious high earners who also work demanding jobs. Women who work part time rarely complain about the split in chores ime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.No, because I am talking about giving up my current income to handle chores and child rearing. I make a lot more than $0 lol. It’s quite common for marriage to not be financially beneficial, especially if you have children. Mouths to feed and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.You don’t necessarily benefit financially from a relationship tho. If I got married and decided to stay at home, my husband would have to make at least 150% of what I do for my lifestyle to remain similar. Ideally 200%. A lot of the time that isn’t the case and household income remains the same or goes down. You can say it’s invalid as much as you like but it would be dumb to compare broke people to wealthy people and then pretend the data tells any relevant story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:22 PM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Yeah I agree for the most part. I see a lot about fuckboys - but I really don’t know a single woman in real life who is struggling to find a boyfriend? The fuckboy stuff really seems like a fool me once or twice situation when women are in their early twenties and don’t know how to vet properly. And when lots of men are particularly amoral. People on here talk about commitment from men like it’s rare - but ime men seem pretty keen on commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:20 PM |
| 0 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.If you say so, I guess it must be true lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Okay, but then the relationship isn’t necessarily what’s making people happier. It’s just more money lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:12 PM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Most great literature has not been written primarily by men. There are plenty of women in the literary canon. Syllabuses are still stacked with male authors. Literature by and about men is going to resonate more with men than it is with women lol. Same as how boys don’t love reading Jane Austen, women don’t find Jack Kerouac or Hunter S Thompson particularly interesting or relatable. There’s also plenty of literature to suggest that teachers are biased against girls. My point is that there’s not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Eh. I think comparing broke people’s happiness to wealthy people’s happiness and then saying ‘it’s because they’re married!’ is kind of dumb. If you want a real answer, compare single people vs married people with comparable lifestyles. Makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Single mothers are a pretty low percentage of women. I think their circumstances vary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:55 PM |
| 2 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.You missed my point. If you want to know if a relationship itself is what’s making women happy, you need to control to look at the relationship. Otherwise you’re really just saying wealthier people are happier. Which - sure, okay. I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Do women like planning out dates?I don’t care if you pursue women or don’t lol. Do what you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:03 PM |
| 4 | Do women like planning out dates?Why are you asking like I’m interested in dating you at all? Lol. I don’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:01 PM |
| 0 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.It doesn’t matter why they do it. Men are often absolute messes when they finally ‘open up’ to their SO because they have no other outlet. It’s like the floodgates have opened. They lean on their SOs for significant emotional support they can’t get elsewhere. They’re not breaking down like this because they want to please women. If they did they’d express themselves in a more tempered way - like women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.To be clear, I think women more often stay in relationships that are making them unhappy. And then get married when relationships are making them unhappy. This means they’re more likely to initiate divorce because they were never happy to begin with. I’m talking pre-marriage, not post-marriage. The rest of this is interesting and I’ll take a look - I think if you look at leisure time, women have less of it than men. Domestic labour eats up more than the additional time men spend in the office. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.As I said, you mentioned health. Longevity is an indicator of health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Income needs to be controlled for when assessing happiness. Otherwise it’s not marriage or men that are making women happier - it’s just additional money. May as well invest more in career/education. Same outcome. I’m not talking about a single study - there is a body of research on this topic. The findings on longevity are an especially clear trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 12:10 PM |
| 0 | Attention women who are against their partners watching porn. Why do you not approve?Fantasy is fantasy. I’d prefer my SO get off to the thought of someone we know vs porn. Porn normalises degrading, unpleasant sex in a lot of instances and the industry as a whole exploits a lot of vulnerable women. It also seems to be emerging in research that it rewires men’s brains a bit/makes them more responsive to screens than real people. I’ve never had this talk with an SO because someone’s masturbation habits are not really my business. But I’ve also never suspected any SO of mine was a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.And yet they talk so much about their feelings to their SOs (or really any woman they’re having sex with). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Not being able to get commitment and choosing not to commit to any of your options are a bit different. I think a lot of women are in the second boat. Which is why you see less bitterness. I truly don’t believe there are many women who can’t get commitment from a man. Men are always trying to get women to commit ime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:57 AM |
| 5 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.I’m sure some men are doing this - I just think far more women are proportionally. There are fewer femcels than incels. Women seem pretty happy remaining single by and large - men seem deeply angry about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:25 AM |
| 4 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.Okay good for you and your thoughts about married women and University professors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:24 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Eh. You’re right that low level admin work is also likely to be automated quite quickly. But do some reading about 3D printing and supply chains. It’s set to replace a lot of grunt work in manufacturing, for example. Other industries where that kind of labour is required are simply going to become obsolete - like mining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 11:23 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Most RP men are centre right lol. That also gives away your political beliefs. It’s so weird to think I’d be able to tell one and not the other. The abortion example is not discrimination. Medical professionals need to be able to perform or provide information about procedures which patients may legally request. That’s just a job requirement. If you’re conservative and can still do the job - no problem. I doubt a medical school would ‘discriminate’ if you were personally against it but still cap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:24 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Do women like planning out dates?Do whatever you like lol - I don’t care. I’m just saying in general it’s lazy men who want to put in minimal effort and have casual relationships who really want women to initiate. Or really passive, feminine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:33 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.School is already more than 50% catered towards men. The majority of literature studied in schools is still about men - just one example. There’s really not much evidence to suggest that teachers significantly favour students of their own gender. I never felt like my female teachers liked me more because I was a girl or my male teachers liked me less. Gender is really not as relevant in schooling as people make it out to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:30 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Yes, and you can consider men all of those things and still want nothing to do with most men. Continuing to repeat this stupid point won’t make it any less stupid. Using ‘lesbian female political nonsense’ also won’t make it seem any less stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:26 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Barring gender of the teacher the schooling system hasn’t changed radically. Books are still books. Math is still math. I know plenty of masculine men who did brilliantly in school - there’s nothing about the system that sets men up to fail, unless you believe that men can only learn from men (and honestly, in today’s world, this is a massive handicap when you will be going into a workplace where you will undoubtedly have to work with and for women. If this is the case, your underperformance in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:20 AM |
| 4 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.You mentioned health. Single women with children still outlive married women with children. There is a substantial body of research to back it up. It isn’t one phone survey lol. It doesn’t go against what I’ve seen in my life. The older women who are single in my family are pretty happy - usually happier than the married ones. It obviously depends on the relationship, but men are often just an additional stress for women in my observation. And this doesn’t seem to be the case as often for men (I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:12 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleLol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:09 AM |
| 5 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.They’re not going to stop working all at once. Women will become a minority of breadwinners over time. A 10% shift won’t damage the economy - it didn’t when it jumped from 30% to 40% and it won’t when it jumps from 40% to 50%. If we instantly went back to the 1950s model where most women were in the home the economy would also collapse. Eh. I’m not saying it’s falsifiable but I 100% believe men are lazier than women. It’s what I have always observed - men are achieving less academically than wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 02:05 AM |
| 6 | Do women like planning out dates?Yeah, lazy men who want easy casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:58 AM |
| 6 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.No, this is not true. The proportion of female breadwinners is at 40% where I live. The economy is fine, there has been no social collapse. It will continue to trend upwards as men embrace their natural tendency to be lazier and less ambitious than women imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:56 AM |
| 12 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Yeah, I think that’s true? Lots of men are choosing not to be providers now and that’s fine. Choices aren’t made in a vacuum. But it’s pretty clear women’s sexual and romantic choices today are more voluntary than they were in the past. I’m pretty happy with the current system. I know lots of men who are happy having partners who chose them for them - not their ability to provide. Some people having a problem with this does not indicate a huge problem. Lots of men are low value propositions and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:51 AM |
| 8 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Lol didn’t you know - if you don’t sleep with unattractive men you’re destined for hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:50 AM |
| 9 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.My point is - if a person has no power to make a different choice, they are not necessarily doing what they are doing ‘voluntarily’. Not getting married often meant destitution for women in the past. It wasn’t really an option - particularly for the middle class. We really don’t know why women made the choices they made. Maybe it was because they wanted families. Maybe it was because they simply had to get married to survive. I’ve spoken to older people. It’s not that simple. Many older women in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:43 AM |
| 7 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Okay, but this is entirely irrelevant. She never mentioned political lesbians. Women can want to get married and still want most men to leave them alone. This is classic MRA ‘logic’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:34 AM |
| 1 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Society will not collapse if men become less productive. Women will just pick up the slack. The trend for female breadwinners is upwards. The trend for house husbands is upwards. And before anyone mentions manual labour - robots can do that now. We really don’t need very much grunt work at present and will need less and less over time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:31 AM |
| 19 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.You didn’t say it, but it’s what this thread is about lol. Men and women didn’t really ‘get along voluntarily’. Women had no economic power or ability to be independent, so they had to marry men. Gender relations in the past may have been different if women had the same economic and social power they have today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:27 AM |
| 4 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.What about longevity in married vs single women? You specifically talked about health and happiness. Single women live longer - it’s pretty hard not to view that as an indication of health. There’s no other way to assess happiness other than to ask people tbh. The studies I’ve seen look at married people vs single people. Not women when their spouse is and isn’t present. I’m not sure I trust that guy’s data analysis, but I’ll take a look at it more closely when I have time (thanks for sharing) -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:25 AM |
| 2 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Yep, this - absolutely. If you’re that insane, how can it be any wonder that no one wants to sleep with you? They have other deep seated issues and blame ‘sexlessness’ for everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:19 AM |
| 13 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.I’ll take a few national tragedies over sexually enslaving women to cater to incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:19 AM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsIt’s okay. You seem like someone who wouldn’t often get the joke lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 01:14 AM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsLol wow this tangent hahaha. Thanks for sharing what’s bothering you - I may not be the best audience. A therapist is more likely to care lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 11:45 PM |
| 6 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.I agree with a lot of your points, but research consistently shows women are happier and live longer when single. Conversely, men are happier and live longer when married. It does seem like women don’t need men quite as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 11:43 PM |
| 6 | Women don't need a man in their life these days. Their needs can be fulfilled without one.It’s well researched. Men don’t really talk to their buddies about their feelings - they just go out and do activities. That’s why men tend to really lean on their SOs for emotional support. “Frenemies” is an alien concept to a lot of women as well. I’ve never had a frenemy and I think by 25+ the vast majority of women no longer have friendships like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 11:39 PM |
| 35 | It's not womens responsibility to have sex with any type of man or any percentage of men. There is no sex quota to filled.Sexless men aren’t even aggressive enough to pursue women, by and large. They sit around moaning about how women won’t ask them out, buy them flowers, pay for their dates and tell them they’re pretty. Don’t see these guys rising up any time soon tbh lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 11:30 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsNo, it’s something you think is logical because of what I said. Which is genuinely hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveHR disagrees. Social lines do blur at work. Some colleagues end up becoming friends - at that point the relationship has changed and it may be acceptable to discuss things you would not otherwise. It just is against social norms to walk up to a colleague you don’t know particularly well and say ‘I like to tie people up and choke them - thought you ought to know’. I don’t know why you guys keep trying to argue that this is okay or that it’s soooo complex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:25 PM |
| 0 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI’m not really interesting in discussing what is or isn’t good for women. It’s up to individual women to decide that for themselves. Lots of women think prioritising someone else’s feelings - which is what it sounds like your list is about (nurture me! etc) - is a recipe for unhappiness. I tend to agree with that and FDS clearly does. Again, they don’t want you. So you have to stop thinking about it in terms of what you want in a partner - they do not think you are high value. And I’m still not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:21 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI didn’t say to stop doing it. I said it’s contrary to social norms and you can’t complain when women respond by calling you a creep. The OP was a man who was upset about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Do women like planning out dates?Not in a relationship - planning things is easy enough. I do it with my friends all the time. But the first few months? I like men who pursue, so yes you’d better plan them. I’m not going to treat you like you’re a woman - because I am, and you are competing for my attention (if we’re both being honest), not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:14 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsHahaha you keep dreaming of a world that sterilises women who upset you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:06 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleMen who approach random women in public are not ‘men’. Most men are capable of reading the room and don’t do this. This is more like...judging men who pick their nose lol. Why are you linking me to a PPD thread from months ago? That proves exactly nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:04 PM |
| 0 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveOkay, you do you, but stop complaining when women call you a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 10:01 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsLol thank you for these replies. So many hilariously illogical leaps and bounds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:44 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI don’t make generalisations about men. Men who approach random women creepily in public are a particular subset of men. Most men think this is gross or cringeworthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:43 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleSo do men. If you’re a creep, I’m going to call you a creep. I guess my dad and my brother ‘radfems’ now - wow my family is so much more interesting than I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:41 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThis just seems like a list of what you want in a woman. It’s designed to benefit you - not the woman. FDS is about women getting what they want, not men getting what they want. It’s pretty clear from reading the FDS sub that they don’t want men like you - MRAs and RP men are considered extremely low value. So you have to consider that their target market is a man who is very unlike you. It’s also pretty clear to me that the majority of them have options beyond just sexual options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:38 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.My last boyfriend was far further to the left than I am. I highly doubt he was pretending to outdo me just to cover up being right wing lol. I assume any man who simply nods along with me or seems unfamiliar with concepts I am talking about is centre right. Ime this is usually correct. There are topics you can ask about that are not directly political, but reveal whether someone is/isn’t conservative - the importance of education is one of them. I didn’t say conservatives only have superficial w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:23 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThey’re not struggling for relationship offers. They’re just trying to figure out which offers are good ones. The whole thing is a vetting strategy. What would you suggest they focus on to become more attractive options for a relationship? If they’re getting lots of offers for a relationship aren’t they already attractive for one? If your main issue is vetting your options it seems unlikely that you need to focus on self improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 03:43 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleWhat context would you like to know about? It’s obviously dependent on the individual and the specific circumstances? Are you asking specifically about my standards? In what context? I don’t struggle with the definitions - but they’re in the dictionary, seems weird to ask me to provide them for you lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 02:19 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleBeing nice is more likely to get you called a ‘whore’ because the kind of men who do this low key enjoy intimidating women and have rage and entitlement issues. Public humiliation is the perfect way to get them to slink away, tail between legs. These guys are so delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:55 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleShe’s not paranoid because her experiences are different to yours lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:53 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThose words have meaning. Go to the dictionary for definitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveYou didn’t read what I wrote, did you? One woman being okay with something doesn’t change the social norm. It just means there are some people who are fine with breaking the social norm. Some people breaking a social norm doesn’t make the norm itself subjective or unclear. It just means that some people are comfortable with breaking it. Do you now talk about BDSM with any woman you encounter at work? Do you act confused when some of them report you to HR? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:55 AM |
| 5 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveI’ve never met a woman who wasn’t irritated by getting hit on while just trying to do normal, daily things. Ever. I think you’re saying because there is a chance a few women might be okay with it - it’s all subjective! No one can work it out! It’s too hard. Or because there’s a chance someone might not want to be approached at a bar it’s basically the same as the supermarket. It’s not - by and large, a bar is a setting more conducive to approaching strangers than a supermarket. It’s not all subj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:38 AM |
| -1 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveBad luck, sorry. I don’t think anyone is that ugly, but yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:24 AM |
| 7 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveYep. Close to 100%. Yet to meet a woman who wants to be hit on when grocery shopping. Even if a woman did want to - she would be comfortable with breaking a social norm. It doesn’t make it ‘subjective’. Is it ‘subjective’ that public nudity is not acceptable in most contexts because some people think it’s okay? No, it’s an observable social norm to wear clothes. You don’t get to walk out stark naked and say ‘but it’s subjective tho!!! This one guy told me he liked nudity!!’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:22 AM |
| 12 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveYeah if a hot guy is creepy it’s a massive turn off. I’m not into creeps - lots of good looking men who don’t behave like animals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveLocation is a factor. It has a huge impact. Social norms are literally all grey areas where something won’t be true 100% of the time. But they’re also not really ‘subjective’ - that’s why we call them norms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:19 AM |
| 4 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveYou keep saying that but it doesn’t make it true. You just don’t have the social skills to be able to work out what is or isn’t the right situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:08 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleNot was meant to be hot. Pretty easy to work out tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 12:07 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleNo, I don’t agree with you at all. I’ve told you why. Do what you want but expect to be called a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:59 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleGood thought lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:50 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleSociety as a whole thinks this is unacceptable not ‘feminists’. If I tell my father or brother about this stuff they’re horrified that some men behave like this way. It’s cringe worthy behaviour. Entitled men will call you a whore or slut for politely turning them down. Publicly humiliating them from the get go is more effective ime, so I’m going to keep going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:49 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleLol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:39 PM |
| 8 | Women don't mind being sexualized by men that they find attractiveNope. It’s context dependent - not to do with the man’s attractiveness imo. Don’t care how hot you are if you approach me in the wrong situation, you’re getting a glare and maybe some public humiliation. I have called hot guys creeps before because bothering someone who is trying to shop or get the bus or whatever is creepy. I’ve told boyfriends off as well when the context is wrong. I found my last boyfriend attractive (6’2, fit, good jaw line - you would probably all call him ‘Chad’ lol) but h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:36 PM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleIt’s really not that subjective. It’s contrary to social norms to bother people in certain places to tell them you think they’re not. That’s why people will call you creepy. If you want to approach women in those places, don’t complain about being called a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 11:29 PM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleIf someone is reading a book in public, it seems obvious that they want to be left alone to me. If I’m out drinking with my friends, I have zero interest in hooking up. But I still won’t be too mad if a guy approaches me (unless he does it in a creepy way or continues to persist and waste my time after I’ve told him I’m not interested). The grocery store? 100% of the time very close to 100% of women are going to be mad. It’s not really about how women think it’s about social norms and respecting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:45 PM |
| 4 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleHow is it vague? I listed a bunch of settings - seems pretty clear. I’m not sure what your point is? Men can’t tell so it’s fine to harass women wherever? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:28 PM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleBars, parties, gallery launches, festivals, certain networking events. Basically social events where it’s standard to mingle a bit. Be polite and if she’s not interested, just leave. No one will call you a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:15 PM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI like that you put hypocrisy in quotation marks because it’s not hypocrisy lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:13 PM |
| 6 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI really think it’s due to people with no social skills or boundaries being unable to read the room. I don’t care if men approach me in appropriate context. Absolutely - be more outgoing, approach more in the right context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:10 PM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThat’s part of a cops job. The context is correct. That’s the equivalent of reaching out to a sex worker through onlyfans. Go for your life - I don’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Instead of complaining about men being "players", why don't you simply stop giving those guys a chance with you?I do have high standards for personality. That’s why everyone grows to love them over time. No one has ever cheated on me. Men are just a bit overprotective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:03 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I’m not a troll because I think you’re ridiculous hahaha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:58 PM |
| 4 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThe man above is not their client and is complaining about the hypocrisy of them not always wanting to be sex objects. My boss and clients can’t approach me on the street for legal advice. The context must be correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:57 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.First ‘nuuu fascism’ no ‘nuuuu alll lives’. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:55 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Nope, the US. Not all conservatives are stupid - but if you’re stupid you’re probably conservative. It’s really easy enough to tell when someone is centre right. I work with lots of people I know are centre right who haven’t said a word about their politics because affluent white crowd. I grew up surrounded by these people. Even if they don’t tell you, their families likely will. The people you’re talking about either have superficial marriages or their wives kind of know and don’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:52 PM |
| 0 | Instead of complaining about men being "players", why don't you simply stop giving those guys a chance with you?Ime men just say men who are not like them are players. My male friends and brother are protective of me. They have never liked my boyfriends (2, both 3 year relationships) initially, but always grow to love them over time. According to these guys no one will ever be good enough - love them dearly, but if I were to take their advice to heart I’d be 10x pickier than I already am, and men on the internet are already likely to say my standards are too high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 01:29 PM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleExactly. It’s rude to bother strangers and demand their time. So don’t be surprised when women you approach call you a fucking creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 01:23 PM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.We’ve already discussed this and you’ve already agreed I can tell. Stupid people are actually strongly conservative. It’s a studied correlation lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 01:18 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.You still haven’t answered my question. Why is one fascism and the other isn’t? ‘Bcos reputation’ is not an answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 01:17 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Lol thx for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 01:15 PM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 10:20 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Okay you said that already. I think it’s dumb but it’s tangential anyway. But why do you think: “It is illegal to lie about celebrities in magazines” - not fascist. “It is illegal to use slurs” - nuuuu fascismmmmmm. You haven’t answered my question. This whole conversation is me making fun of you for going ‘nuuu fascism!!!’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:16 AM |
| 5 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I am questioning the basis for there being a law for one and not the other. I am a lawyer, dw I understand hahaha. Is there a reason you’ve dodged all my questions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:07 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.It’s clear that slurs are damaging to the social position of minority groups. Including their reputation. Look, my main point was, if you think preservation of reputation is a good enough reason to police free speech, why isn’t racism? Why is it I can’t publish a lie about who a celebrity has slept with but I can organise a neo-Nazi march and rant about how the holocaust never happened but should have? Why do you think one is ‘fascism’ and the other is not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 08:03 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.What a helpful little darling. Mummy raised you right lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:59 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yep, exactly. You either think black people’s lives matter or you don’t. If you want to go off on irrelevant tangents to try and obfuscate the issue, I really have no time for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:58 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.So the real victims of racism are the perpetrators? You’re the most progressive guy I’ve ever met lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:56 AM |
| 4 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Okay. So you think it’s not fascism when the speech is injurious. You don’t think racism is injurious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:41 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Are defamation laws fascist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:31 AM |
| 1 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Well you said ‘nuuu fascism’!!! Shrug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:25 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI’m not invested in whether or not you’re angry lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:24 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yep, I got that. So no limitations to freedom of speech - harassment and stalking are violence. So you’re undecided on whether or not Australia is fascist? What an informed man we have here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:22 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleLol it was just intellectual for me, but you seem to have gotten pretty riled up for someone who has no rage about FDS. Thanks for the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:20 AM |
| 2 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.You think there can be no limitations on freedom of speech or a country is fascist. So I’m asking you, do you think Australia is fascist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:13 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThat’s what men who like you do, ime. I don’t get it. Why would I assume a man wants to date me if he isn’t demonstrating that he’s invested and is treating me like a buddy? All I’ve seen is ‘I’ll get next time’ and then drop him, which I don’t think is too bad (it’s probably like 12 bucks as manipulation goes this is nothing and is not ‘harmful to men’). Or split the bill and drop him, which I think is better. I haven’t seen anything to indicate they ‘deserve’ to be sent dick pics or pressured … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:12 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I didn’t misread you. Jumping straight to ‘nuuuu fascism’ is a cliche. Do you think Australia is fascist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:06 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleHVM as defined by FDS seems to be about how he treats you. He has inherent value because of who he is and how he behaves - it’s not about looks or money. They post screenshots. It’s pretty obvious they weren’t rude first lol. I usually take people at face value until it’s obvious they’re lying. Can you explain in one or two sentences how they’re manipulative? I can’t be bothered reading all of that, sorry. I’m not sure they’re ‘blaming’ men. If someone treats you poorly, it’s pretty weird to ass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:01 AM |
| 5 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Ah, yes, the good old ‘anyone who disagrees with me must be in support of fascism’ chestnut. You’re such a cliche lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 07:00 AM |
| 5 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleIt’s not LVM that have value. It’s companionship. So your major complaint about FDS is that it isn’t what you would consider a strategy? Or it’s not a complex enough strategy? I’ve looked. I saw them hating on a bunch of people who were rude. Didn’t seem terrible to me. How are they harming men by not dating men who don’t put in effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:54 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.‘In the legal sense’ - really says it all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:52 AM |
| 4 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Incorrect. It will not. You, my friend, are not socially progressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:47 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Okay, thank you for sharing your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:46 AM |
| 5 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleLol loads of men are creeps, I don’t know why they expect us to centre their feelings when they’re freaking us out with their creepiness. Like yeah, maybe you only called me beautiful, but did you also follow me for a block? Because I’ll call you a creep and do it loudly. I remember a guy told me he didn’t realise it was creepy to grab random women’s butts once. How can you be so stupid and unobservant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:44 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleNo my point is: they want companionship; sometimes they are tempted to date LVM to get companionship; this is generally a bad idea and makes them less happy than being single long term; so they need a strategy to keep disciplined about staying single. I think they have already conceded what you are asking them to concede. That’s why they talk about being or becoming okay with being single. Is your criticism really that they should lower their standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:42 AM |
| 3 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yet another reasonable and well adjusted view from you. Why am I not surprised? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:31 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI think a lot of people want companionship. It’s tempting to ‘settle’ to get it. It’s not LVM they crave - it’s companionship. Lots of people provide companionship which provides some value - but like junk food, it makes you feel kind of shitty after a while. You haven’t answered my question about what you would prefer they do? What would you find more consistent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:29 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThat is a strategy. It’s just a very simple one. It’s like when people are on a diet. Their goal is to resist junk food, but sometimes they cave - same thing with FDS and LVM. The goal is to not get involved, but it’s clear from the posts that a lot of the posters are tempted/still learning discipline in this aspect of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:21 AM |
| 10 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I don’t agree with that - as I said, I think it is indicative of a values clash. The fact that you and a lot of right wing men also can’t see it as such - also indicative of very different outlooks on life. I’m not really interested in engaging in an argument about what sides of politics align with what outlooks on life. I just figured I’d answer your question. If you think there are ‘sides’ to BLM you get a hard next from me. If you vote right wing, also a hard next. Not my thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:19 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleIt’s actually a lot harder as a woman, I think. You just get so many offers - if companionship is what you want, it would take some discipline to decline them all in favour of being single. Even if you know the offers are shitty. FDS seems like women who didn’t have that discipline in the past/who were too forgiving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:16 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI go on dates with men I don’t know well, but I meet them in appropriate contexts. Through friends or colleagues or OLD. I have never gone on a date with a stranger who has cold approached me. I really just don’t think the vast majority of women will be anything but extremely irritated if you interrupt them and waste their time just because you think they’re pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:15 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleTheir strategy isn’t to be single. It’s to get a HVM OR be single in the event they can’t. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Lol. Their strategy is just ‘don’t settle’. What would you prefer they do? How do you think they should reframe their goal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:12 AM |
| 9 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.I don’t really care lol. If you vote for a conservative party you are ultimately supporting a whole bunch of things I find socially regressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:10 AM |
| 6 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleTheir strategy is to get a HVM or be single. It’s not either/or. I have the same strategy but I don’t say HVM - I say “Either I find someone compatible or I’ll remain single”. Everyone does this to some extent imo. Why would I want to marry someone I don’t see myself being happy with? I don’t see why the goal should be ‘a relationship, any relationship’? I see a lot of rage about FDS here. The comment I replied to contained rage about FDS. I’m confused by it. I had a look yesterday and a lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:08 AM |
| 9 | The current affairs in the United States are going to polarize men and woman with different political beliefs, to never seen before records.Yeah, I have no interest in dating conservative men and never have. I don’t view them as an option. It’s not a difference in opinion, it’s a difference in values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 06:03 AM |
| 6 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThey don’t mind being single. Their strategy is to go for partners they want or stay single - it’s not one or the other. Lots of people are in shitty relationships. It doesn’t follow that most people find relationships so those relationships are good. I don’t know why people find this upsetting. They know their standards are high and they may not find anyone, from what I’ve seen. You think their dating strategy is self defeating, okay. Doesn’t seem rage worthy to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:58 AM |
| 4 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI don’t think it makes no sense. Women do report greater unhappiness in relationships than when single. It really doesn’t seem like the majority of men are a net benefit to women’s lives. Functionally the way they discuss it - it seems like LVM are men who treat women poorly and specifically that poster. Makes sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:23 AM |
| 10 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleMost men are low value to individual women, though. I’m pretty sure that’s their point. Most men aren’t going to be compatible with an individual woman and lots of men will do low effort shit just to try and get laid. If he’s behaving this way, he’s a LVM - it’s not to do with some objective evaluation of him as a person, it’s how he is treating her from what I’ve seen of the sub. Women do need to filter extremely well. Most men who try with you are going to be useless - for you, even if they en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 05:00 AM |
| 14 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleWhy is it man hating to avoid low value men? They’re not avoiding all men - just people they don’t find attractive. Pickmeishas seem like the equivalent of simps. Are men who dislike simps also problematic in your view? FDS just doesn’t seem that out there to me. “Don’t date men who don’t put in effort” - how is this really so controversial? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 04:49 AM |
| 7 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleNo, I have thought about it, but it’s really better to just assume that people don’t want to be approached in random situations in public. I have never gone on a date with a man who stopped me on the street. Literally not once. And this happens to me every time I leave the house - so it’s a pretty bad strike rate. There are contexts where it is more acceptable to approach people. Bars, parties, certain networking events, gallery launches, OLD etc. In general, strangers do not want to be bothered… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 04:17 AM |
| 17 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThis is dumb. It’s a job. This is like saying because I’m a lawyer I have to give random people free legal advice at all times or it’s hypocritical. They are choosing to be sexual to make a living. This does not mean they have to be sexual always lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 03:29 AM |
| 2 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleOh no I got you! I didn’t think you were being rude at all. Ugh, that’s so gross and stupid. I remember a few people saying stuff like that when I was at Uni. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 03:27 AM |
| 3 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI’m a woman and am saying how I view it! This doesn’t really come into it imo - I don’t internalise that I’m a slut if some random man is creepy to me. No one else is going to think that I’m a slut because of it either. I don’t feel branded in any way - some men are just disgusting. Sluttiness has always been determined within social circle in my experience and is dependent on your behaviour, not men’s grossness. It’s probably different for different people & in different contexts! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 03:16 AM |
| 4 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleThis doesn’t really come into it imo. Whether or not you’re a ‘slut’ is determined by your social circle, not random men in public who think some basic outfit is an invitation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 03:07 AM |
| 18 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleI don’t want anyone to approach me when I’m grocery shopping or whatever. I don’t care how attractive you are - I’m trying to buy some vegetables and I want to be left alone. I don’t care that you like my jeans or you’ve seen me around a few times and you think I’m pretty. I don’t wear make up or anything even vaguely form fitting now unless I’m on a date or in a formal setting. Granted it was worse when I ‘dressed up’ in jeans, a t-shirt and some basic make up, but I really shouldn’t have to dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:50 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale‘Friends’ Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:41 AM |
| 12 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleHahaha good logic. I guess I can go around yelling ‘manlet’ at every short guy and laughing at receding hairlines by this absurd standard. You can be an asshole or a creep without breaking the law. If you act like an asshole or a creep, expect people to be angry about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Sex - Big Deal or not? How do you feel about it?Sex is not a big deal to me and you don’t have to be the love of my life. I do have to be fully comfortable and have a significant level of trust in my partner, though. Otherwise I’m not going to be able to fully relax and enjoy it without a ton of alcohol - and that seems unhealthy. I need to make sure my partner is respectful, we have good chemistry, they’re kind and respond well to feedback etc before I’m ready to do anything, even if it’s just casual sex. It usually takes me at least a month… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?It should not look like what they think is good, clearly. This person needs to reevaluate themselves lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:23 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?Well ask if I can empathise with men, then. This hypothetical didn’t do that. It asked me what I would do if men wanted to be treated like women. Most men (and especially men I like) do not want to be treated like women, so it’s a pointless hypothetical. Most women do not have any interest or motivation to act like men - even if men act like women. Your response indicates that you don’t deal well with nuance and missed the point I was making, which was not ‘ew men! I have no empathyyyy!!!’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:15 AM |
| 1 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale‘Friend’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:11 AM |
| 11 | The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scaleIt’s not that ridiculous. People aren’t saying they don’t want to be sexual - they’re saying they want to choose when to be sexual and who with. It’s really very simple. People who are behaving sexually are still people, not objects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 12:10 AM |
| 2 | How would you deal with a son or close male family member who struggled with the opposite sex?His sex life is not my business. If he asked me for advice I’d tell him to approach women he likes and not be discouraged by rejection. Depending on what he looks like I may give him some grooming or appearance pointers. If his misogyny and entitlement are what’s turning people off I might suggest therapy. I don’t know any men like this, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 10:18 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?Sexually attracted and physically attractive are different. Most women think ‘oh good looking’ and move on. There’s no urge to pursue men sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 10:04 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?Your problem is you’re comparing women to your favourite PUA. Women are not men. It would be off putting to most men if women approached men like a PUA. Most women find those approaches annoying anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 08:52 PM |
| 9 | Q4W: If the burden of approaching, persistence and courting was on you, how would you handle it?What is the point of this? I’m not a man - I’m a woman. Men are not women - they’re men. The only way this thought experiment works is if I’m an extremely masculine woman and enjoy pursuing extremely feminine men. Otherwise I’m not bothering with anything you mentioned, I’d rather be alone. I like masculine men and they tend not to like it when you pursue them or lead them in sexual encounters (what does this even mean? He’s just starfishing?) - it’s really just stealing their thunder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Beyond the odd diet, women don’t self improveI said I wasn’t talking about resistance training but prioritising hypertrophy. I don’t know why you’re still going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do you view age gaps as a power imbalance but not experience gaps?Gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 07:36 PM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?When did this become about whether or not you respect my choices and think I’m some kind of ugly freak? Strange plot twist, but okay haha. I get why people take that approach, but I nope out on people who are scared of running or doing other forms of cardio due to muscle wastage as well. Too much vanity for a man imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 08:33 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsLegitimately - nothing. I said that in my first response to you. You just need to be self aware enough to understand that you’re a very niche market if you’re a feminine man imo. All the rage about women not treating men like they’re women is bizarre. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:39 AM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsRP has to tell men to do this because the men who subscribe to RP weren’t doing it initially. They are passive, feminine men, who need a sexual strategy that allows them to find women who will cater to them. Naturally masculine men don’t need to be told ‘approach women’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:28 AM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsYou’re quoting someone else. But I’m referring to all the rage RP men seem to have about the burden of initiating and planning dates and how unfair it all is. Constantly calling women ‘entitled’ etc. The exact manifestation is not relevant and I’m not invested in arguing about what is and isn’t RP. RP men need to be told to approach because they are naturally feminine. This comes naturally to most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:21 AM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsI don’t care if RP exists or not. I just think it’s a niche sexual strategy for feminine men to attract the limited pool of women who are willing to date them. See my comments above and the comments of the poster I replied to. It’s pretty clear what I think of as feminine vs masculine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 04:06 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsBecause feminine men need a sexual strategy to lure in the small niche of women who might cater to them? I don’t doubt RP works on some women. I’ve never called anyone a fuckboy but thx for the tip. Please do let me in on more of your ‘secrets’ you seem very insightful and emotionally astute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:57 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsI am aware of what the year is, but thank you for informing me it’s not the 1950s lol. Women still like masculine men by and large. It’s fine if you’re a feminine man who wants to be chased and treated like you’re the beauty in the relationship, but you have to understand you’re playing in a niche market. Especially if you want a feminine woman. You don’t have to peacock in order to pursue. Lots of men with options still pursue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 03:18 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsExactly! Very feminine and usually narcissistic. They want everything a woman gets without giving anything of the things women give. You can definitely tell none of them are historians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Men concerned with women's motivation for sex display unattractive feminine behavior.Have you thought about a career in comedy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:39 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentions“Back in our dreamworld imaginary version of the 50s women pursued men, told them how beautiful they were, and planned all the dates. They were also virgins and did all of these things for physically unattractive men whilst receiving nothing in return”. Very, very solid understanding lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:31 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do you view age gaps as a power imbalance but not experience gaps?I don’t say that. People can decide whatever matters to them lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:17 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsAnd beyond that - by their ability to act and go after what they want. No masculine man would rather sit around waiting to be told they’re pretty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 01:15 AM |
| 2 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsYeah, I’m honestly convinced RP is sexual strategy for very feminine men who want to be treated like women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 12:53 AM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsOh. I just thought we were exchanging witty banter. My bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 12:17 AM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsNOICE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 12:11 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do you view age gaps as a power imbalance but not experience gaps?I do think it’s a power imbalance. I would be unlikely to date a very sexually inexperienced man. I would definitely not date a man my age who is a virgin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 12:11 AM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsx 4 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/20 12:09 AM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsLOL x 3. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 11:58 PM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsLol okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 11:54 PM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsI already said it was about one specific person lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 11:51 PM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Yeah, somewhere like the North Shore. It depends. I have dated former footballers who were probably technically 30-50lbs overweight, I guess. For a LTR, I am only interested in really fit, healthy people for lifestyle reasons - so it’s unlikely that I would find myself dating someone who is overweight the way people tend to mean it on the internet. It’s not just about looking good. I don’t date thin men who are good looking but unfit and I don’t date gym bros who look muscular but can’t run a de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is there any circumstance in which you’d understand a man hiring an escort?No more thoughts and feelings to share? :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:35 PM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsMy comment was about leading others on using plausible deniability. I was not commenting on anything to do with the majority of single women. I talked about one specific person. Shrug. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:35 PM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Literally no one in my social circle is overweight. I know no men who date overweight women - none of the men I have dated have dated overweight women before or since. I know I’d be dating different men - I don’t need to try a tinder fat suit experiment to find out haha. People are quite fit and athletic around where I live - it’s mostly the norm here. Other parts of Australia/social classes are obviously different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:31 PM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsLol. I meant when did my comment become about the majority of single women. Did you respond to the wrong comment? I was talking about people leading others on using plausible deniability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:19 PM |
| 0 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsI don’t understand. What are you so weirdly mad about? When did this become about the majority of single women? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:07 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsIt’s the literal same for women. My mother could not have dropped me off without my father’s consent either, because he was involved as a caregiver. You can only do this if you have sole custody and the other parent isn’t really in the picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is there any circumstance in which you’d understand a man hiring an escort?Hahaha okay. Pls share more of your thoughts with me. I’m very deeply invested in them :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:59 PM |
| 1 | TRP is high beta fuckboy game. They only get pussy without commitment because they lie about their intentionsA lot of the time people do lead others on and use the plausible deniability of ‘but we were clear!’ to deny it. A friend of mine is doing this to a guy she’s seeing right now. He clearly wants her to be his girlfriend - he is calling her all the time, trying to take her out to fancy dinners, sending flowers for God’s sake - and she’s like ‘we’re FWB! We said!’ He clearly changed his mind. At this point, she is 100% leading him on and acting poorly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:56 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is there any circumstance in which you’d understand a man hiring an escort?Do you think I care what annoys you? I do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:50 PM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Lol what was wrong with the women? I didn’t find New York to be more financially shallow than Aus. People are a bit more subtle about it here, though. Is your sister taller than you? I have no idea how 50lbs wouldn’t make a huge difference on a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:41 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsIf the mother isn’t in the picture at all, as many fathers aren’t in the picture, the mother does not have to agree. Even in your weird scenario, once the mother is in jail the state becomes responsible for the child. And taxpayers are paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:33 PM |
| 2 | “Attraction can’t be negotiated,” but can it be built/nurtured?It can’t be nurtured for me. It’s either there or it isn’t and sometimes I’m not attracted to very physically beautiful people. Chemistry is weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Is there any circumstance in which you’d understand a man hiring an escort?No. For me it will always be a dealbreaker. It’s especially disgusting right now if you’re in the US, though (or anywhere else with significant covid numbers). But ultimately you don’t need internet approval to live your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 09:09 PM |
| 2 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsMale primary caregivers have options to give up their children for adoption, to safe havens, to foster care etc where the mother is incapable or disinterested in caring for the child, too. The result is not the same because in one scenario there is a live human child that now needs to be paid for by taxpayers. And in the other, there is no child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsIt has factual basis in biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:51 PM |
| 8 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?Tall, broad shouldered, good looking and extremely fit. Preferably dark haired, but that’s not a deal breaker. Kind, intelligent, masculine, comfortable with communicating, capable of experiencing emotion without entirely clamming up. Preferably funny. Educated to degree level. Financially stable. Somewhat ambitious. Values a healthy diet. Treats me really well. Good in bed. Generous mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:48 PM |
| 4 | [Q4W] What Do You Look for in a BF?Lol dark Mediterranean types and Asians with angular features and good posture are ‘ruffians’ now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Men concerned with women's motivation for sex display unattractive feminine behavior.I don’t mind if someone is curious about the ‘why’ but not in a neurotic way. I don’t want to discuss it endlessly or have him pouting all over the place because his dread game isn’t working or he’s not Chad enough. The unattractive part for me is where he stops thinking about my why and starts internalising it and making it about himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Men concerned with women's motivation for sex display unattractive feminine behavior.Most men I’ve been in relationships with assume I’m ‘down’ when they’re down - it just means they initiate a lot and get sometimes get turned down. It’s not ‘entitled’ or arrogant imo unless you whine about getting turned down and guilt trip the other person, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:39 PM |
| 4 | Men concerned with women's motivation for sex display unattractive feminine behavior.You should be more concerned about why you are attracted to and consistently getting involved with such unstable people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:34 PM |
| 1 | How to maturely handle a woman’s body count and sexual past.There’s usually some level of sharing over time - exes feature in stories etc. I personally wouldn’t go into detail about something like past threesomes or whatever because how is it relevant? It doesn’t matter whether he’s comfortable hearing about my sex life or not - it’s kind of a weird thing to really want a partner to share details about & to me it would come across like he was too into it/it was a fetish. If it’s early on I would ghost because we’re not sexually compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:23 PM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsA live human child is not ‘made up’ lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:16 PM |
| 2 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsNo. One means you never have parental responsibilities to reject in the first place. The other allows you to reject your parental responsibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:15 PM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Eh. If I gained 50lbs (barring pregnancy) my dating life would change drastically - I’d be dating entirely different people, who would be treating me differently, even if I would still be getting ‘attention’. 30lbs on a guy. I really can’t see it mattering quite as much, especially if you’re somewhat tall. I’m in Australia but I lived in New York for a year and didn’t really see a difference in how shallow people were. But everyone loves an accent - it’s always a bit easier to charm people overs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:13 PM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsI’m not pro-life. Abortion is a complex individual choice - lots of people do think about a child’s wellbeing in that way. It’s an individual choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:58 PM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsBecause the government says so. Because no one will ever mobilise for this cause - most men and most women think you should pay for your own children. Get over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:56 PM |
| 4 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsAbortion is a medical procedure with significant associated risk that often traumatises people. My comment was about people having consequence free, risk free sex. Abortion is a consequence and a significant one. Signing some papers and taking no further responsibility is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:58 PM |
| 2 | What is the equivalent of red pill truth for woman?Know your boundaries and enforce them if neee be. Have healthy boundaries. Same as for any human relationship, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:56 PM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsAbortion is a consequence. Signing some papers to get out of the whole situation is not a consequence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Why do women abuse and kill children?Postpartum depression is generally why women kill infants. Google it. But also your stats are wild lol. 70% of children?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:41 PM |
| 1 | women burdening men with their "feelings"?No his original point was that he takes responsibility for his own feelings on a date. Not responsibility for planning or the evening or whatever. If your feelings are a direct response to what someone else (your date) is doing, then this is patently untrue. It has nothing to do with whether or not he’s putting in more or less effort. You might take responsibility for your negative feelings after a date by talking to friends, going for a run, blowing off steam on the internet. But on the date - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:36 PM |
| 6 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsWhen you choose to have sex, you are taking on the risk of having a child. Abortion is illegal or very difficult to access in many places. Many women simply will not get abortions. When you choose to have sex, that is the risk you are taking on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:02 PM |
| 4 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsBecause fathers are not paying child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 12:00 PM |
| 1 | women burdening men with their "feelings"?I’ve planned a date before. It’s not difficult, but yet again my point was not about comparing effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 08:45 AM |
| 2 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Okay, you’re just stricter with diet and exercise. That seems pretty normal. A far cry from the ‘what is my motivation to not be obese and unemployed without sex??’ crowd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:29 AM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper Abortions100% agree with all of this. We all have to be responsible and careful with ourselves (sounds like you have it particularly rough, though!). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Do you think most women are secretly not attracted to their partners?Okay, interesting. Lots of posters on dead bedrooms talk about being thin. Do you think they’re lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:05 AM |
| 1 | Do you think most women are secretly not attracted to their partners?I don’t know it sounds kind of like they’re either exceptionally dumb or a bit troubled. I mean of course everyone’s standards for someone who is going to be a FWB are lower than their standards for who is going to be a boyfriend (this is logical - you have to spend more time with a boyfriend so you’d better like them more, find them more attractive etc). But having sex in literal garbage heaps just because he’s handsome? Seems a bit much to me. Lots of really handsome men around lol - no need t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 07:04 AM |
| 4 | Do you think most women are secretly not attracted to their partners?So are men in the USA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 06:57 AM |
| 5 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsAnnnnd everyone else should pay for men to have consequence free sex. Very fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 06:48 AM |
| 2 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsWhen a woman has an abortion there is no child. When a man has a financial abortion, there is still a child that the state, and therefore taxpayers, will generally need to step in to provide for. If you’re talking about the small number of people who are incapable of taking care of their kids and need to give them up to the foster system - sure. Male primary caregivers have that option, too, where the mother is unwilling or unable to step in and assume care duties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 06:43 AM |
| 2 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsSee my comments about taxpayers under the automod. I don’t want to pay for random people’s kids. That’s why. I think it’s extremely logical to expect everything to be a fair outcome for you as an individual all the time. That’s not how the world works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 06:25 AM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsI’ve already said why I think men shouldn’t be able to get a paper abortion. I don’t have much to add. ‘But it’s not fair!!!! Women have one more option!!!!’ has not swayed me at all. There’s no reason with the majority of medically necessary abortions. The child usually cannot be successfully carried to term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 06:09 AM |
| 2 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsIf a pregnancy is endangering my life and cannot be carried to term - that is not about choosing whether or not to have a child. It is about not dying for zero reason. This thread is about whether or not people should be able to ‘choose’ to have children via some form of abortion. I never said I didn’t agree with OP. You asked me what I would feel like if I didn’t have the option to choose to abort and I said absolutely fine - that is not an option for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:40 AM |
| 1 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsHahaha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:23 AM |
| 2 | How to maturely handle a woman’s body count and sexual past.Thank god someone else agrees with me. I find this so bizarre but everyone here seems to think it’s extremely socially astute lol. I agree it’s so easy to tell and it’s really creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:20 AM |
| 0 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsLol ‘the truth’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:19 AM |
| 3 | An Argument Against Paper AbortionsSome abortions are medically necessary, yes. I would never have an abortion just to not have a child. It’s just not something I would do - and that is what is being discussed here. It doesn’t comfort me to have that option because it isn’t an option for me. I use multiple forms of birth control like many women - that’s my option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:15 AM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?I’m curious - what changes do you make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:09 AM |
| 4 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Working out is a basic thing. It is important to get 30 mins of exercise a day to maintain basic health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:02 AM |
| 4 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?I like sex and am driven to have it. That does not mean sex is my motivation to do everything in life. That is unhealthy. Too often men around here say ‘Well if I can’t get laid why would I not just be obese and destitute!’ Like okay, you do you, but let’s not pretend that attitude is in any way wholesome lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 05:01 AM |
| 1 | If it’s not sex, motivates you to things you probably should do?Working out is a reward in and of itself. It makes you feel good and good health enables you to live a longer and happier life. Living a comfortable lifestyle is really enough motivation to have a decent career. I don’t get this whole ‘I only do anything to try and get sex’ - it just sounds incredibly messed up to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/20 04:57 AM |
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