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SilverTango/r/ExRedPill20/07/23 06:59 PM
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Yeah this is so fucking vague and means different things to different people. Some people find gym and grocery store acceptable places, and others gag at the thought. Don't speak for all women, please.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 02:14 AM
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Depends on how you define it. If you go up to someone with zero established rapport and just try to ask for a number only based on looks...that can come across as tacky. But, and I speak as a woman, so many women constantly bitch about how awful the apps are and the fact that "men don't approach anymore." I am one of these women, and I am open to being approached while out in public. If women want to keep bitching about lazy and cowardly men, they need to stop fucking complaining when men are be…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 02:12 AM
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Not to be depressing, but it could be that the algorithms are showing you content you like, not that things are getting better. I hope you're right, though.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/24 10:02 PM
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HealthyGamerGG's podcast.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/24 04:44 AM
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Sadiapsychology1 on Instagram. I went through like two posts before I saw her comments. It's honestly hysterical to poke through. It's been a while. I forgot how savage she was. Literally one of her responses was "unattractive incels can't understand my message." And yes, this is really her responding.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 05:06 AM
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What the hell??? What a b*tch!! Dude I'm so sorry she did that to you, and for your waste of money!!
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 09:16 PM
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Oooh, do tell. What was the consultation with her like??? 👀
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 08:45 PM
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I know. That was one of the first things that tipped me off about her. Then things just spiraled downwards. She eventually started entertaining Andrew Tate 🤮
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 04:09 AM
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If you ever looked at her replies to negative comments, they were WILD. She would ROAST people in the comments, and the grammar was horrible. I thought to myself, how does this woman have time to respond to all these comments, and roast people like a high schooler? It was insane.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 04:04 AM
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Well, duh. Love is a gamble no matter the situation. That's the thing about love. Real love is only formed with vulnerability.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 01:40 AM
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Yeah it is tough for a lot of the Christians. There are tons of them out there who can't find spouses, ironically. And the Christian dating apps suck.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/24 03:34 AM
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If you are a Christian, you could try church. There are lots of single Christian women seeking men. These women tend to have really high standards, though, in what they are looking for. Make sure your walk with God is on point, you are respectful, and have your shit together. I would start visiting churches in your area and joining small groups. Don't go in there asking for numbers right away, that might turn a lot of them off. Get to know them as people, open up and let them know who you are. S…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/24 04:00 PM
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It was buried in Jonathan Haidt's The Righteous Mind. It's a fabulous book, but male-female relations wasn't the focus. It still applies, though, as it explains how tribal people can be, and how that impacts morality.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 05:37 AM
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Well, when people feel there is scarcity of resources, they fight amongst each other for them. This is one of the uglier parts of human nature. But it doesn't have to be this way. I think agriculture developed as a way to save energy and preserve resources, but it turned into few people amassing wealth, class structures, and rigid marriage structures. Men did that. Men, not women. I really believe the whole hypergamous thing is just men projecting how they think onto women. They interpret every …
/r/ExRedPill02/09/24 03:45 PM
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You know, I recently read a book that discussed how certain hunter-gatherer societies would kill anyone who tried to amass power and status and hoarding of resources. In one case, it was documented that each member of the community, male and female, would take a spear and drive it into the alleged alpha. This "community killing" was a warning to anyone who would have tried to be any sort of "alpha." It is really interesting to read about hunter-gatherer societies, and how egalitarian they were. …
/r/ExRedPill02/09/24 03:06 PM
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You know it's really interesting, because dating advice some 70 years ago actually focused on being the best possible person you could be to present your best self to the other person. Men were told that they should be well-groomed, polite, be good at having a conversation, among other things women still want today. These days everyone is asking "What do YOU bring to the table?" My sister went on a date the other day, and a guy asked her this question. It's so rude asking someone to prove themse…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 03:16 PM
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I think men are failing to adapt in a changing world. Women no longer need men for financial purposes like they used to. They also have rights now, and they are looking for men to offer more than just a paycheck. They cling to these ideologies because it is comfortable and convenient to blame women for their problems. It's no one's fault though. Someone "moved the cheese," and they are failing to adapt.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 09:37 PM
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I think there can be leagues. It's just honest. It helps to think of it in terms of scarcity. Wealthy, attractive, educated people (whether male or female) will be desired by many. When many desire scarce resources, demand for that goes up, and its "value" increases. The supermodel women are going to be desired by many, therefore making them a scarce resource. If everyone looked like a supermodel, "leagues" would be less of an issue.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/24 04:56 PM
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Yes, you can see at some point there is a breakthrough. The psychologist even does a second session with him. The problem though is that the guy's view of himself is so deeply ingrained and negative, and these things can't be solved in a couple of sessions. It could possibly take years, with a lot of hard work and commitment to self-awareness. He comes to the interview hoping that the psychologist can make him more desirable, but therein lies the problem. It takes a really long time for him to e…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/24 06:22 PM
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HealthyGamerGG is a psychologist, and he has a great YT channel. In one of his videos he interviewed a self-identified incel. The guy was cute, witty, successful, likable, and smart. But for some reason, he had terrible self-esteem, and you quickly realized he was the one getting in his own way as he made all kinds of disparaging remarks about himself. It was so sad. The stories we tell ourselves are quite powerful, and confirmation bias is an unfortunate quirk of human nature. A link to the int…
/r/ExRedPill06/08/24 09:50 PM
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Yes, anything that will help you build social skills.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/24 08:15 PM
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Has this cousin transitioned from woman to man? I wasn’t sure of how you were using the pronouns. If so it sounds like there is a lot of self hatred going on there and a very deep need for therapy.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/24 10:07 PM
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You should pick up dancing. Salsa, West Coast Swing, and if you're brave enough, Argentine tango. This will help you build rapport with women and increase your confidence. We need more men on the dance floor!!
/r/ExRedPill25/07/24 04:06 PM
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I will give you lots of credit for your self awareness. Sorry if I was harsh. But lots of men blame the victims, and that is wrong on so many levels.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/24 01:49 AM
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Seduction is manipulation, what the hell else do you expect? If a woman is being emotionally manipulated, she will react a certain way. Instead of being confused about your victims, you should look inward at what you were doing and realize it was manipulation. You were manipulating them. You were the problem, not them.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 08:24 PM
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I think he was one of those guys who got screwed over in a divorce and he never was able to move past it. He has a daughter from what I understand. Scary!!
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 05:09 PM
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You just do it. I learned West Coast Swing, Argentine tango, waltz, and other dances just by showing up, paying a low fee, and having fun. This will take you out of your comfort zone and get you more comfortable meeting people.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 03:51 AM
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I have found Alison Armstrong and Dr. John Gray to be instrumental. So many problems can be resolved by understanding the opposite sex. We're more alike than we are different, but the differences can cause a lot of mischief.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 04:54 PM
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Yes.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 02:32 AM
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I have tried dating good men I am not attracted to, hoping it will grow, but it just doesn't work. Dating them felt like a chore I had to put up with. I wasn't excited about meeting them, and I'm sure they felt a lack of energy from me. I don't recommend doing this.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 01:32 AM
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OP, this is red pill content. Don't listen.
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 01:59 AM
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I think that it's a lot of hurt women making those comments. Some men are sheepdogs, protecting the flock from danger. Some men are wolves, threatening the flock. Both wolves and sheepdogs have teeth. Unfortunately, many women have gotten to the point where all they see is teeth, and they are protecting themselves from teeth. They see all men as wolves. Sometimes it is for a good reason, sometimes they are radicalized. You sound like a sheepdog. Eventually you will run into women who can tell th…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/24 12:57 PM
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Can confirm. I am picky as hell, send out very few likes, and rarely match back. The quality of matches is just so low.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/24 04:29 AM
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Yes, or had acid thrown in their face, raped, etc., etc.,
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 02:36 PM
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Do you like trivia? I've made a lot of friends that way. Dancing is also a severely undervalued skill among men. If you start learning a dance, it will help your confidence around women tremendously.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 08:10 AM
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It's not just about being bothered. It's about safety too. I as a woman have been followed around, followed to my car, and scariest of all, followed home, all because I smiled at a guy. Men do not understand how dangerous it can be for women, so we have learned to put on the bitch face for protection.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 08:09 AM
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I know, I loved it, too. Definitely taught me that now is the best time in history to be a woman.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 07:44 PM
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I wish you wouldn't have checked the reviews to have other people think for you. You can read the book for yourself and make your own decision. I will say that for myself, it challenged a lot of conceptions I had and crushed red pill assumptions.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 07:42 PM
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When you read history, you learn that it disproves a lot of evopsych theory. I recommend reading Marriage, A History by Stephanie Coontz.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 01:31 AM

You might want to look into Cult Education Institute. Red pill is a cult. It will help bring you to a place of understanding and healing.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/24 04:27 AM
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Hate to tell you this but you have to approach it like he is joining a cult. He doesn't know he is in a cult and won't listen to you if you try to tell him he is in one. I would start looking at websites like CEI (Cult Education Institute) and see if they have any tips for you. They may even have resources for red pill.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 11:55 PM
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There was a dude who was legitimately ugly, who posted a YT video about how he could never get dates. Some woman reached out to him and said she thought he was cute. They ended up getting married. There is someone out there for everyone. Looks usually isn't the problem for men who think they are ugly. It's usually their self-defeating beliefs and bad attitudes.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/24 06:08 AM
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This is so relatable. I have dated men like this. They think you are out of their league and they end up building walls. They refuse to really invest in you because they are terrified you will leave them for something better. And then you end up getting so exhausted with the situation, you have to leave anyway. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sad.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 07:27 AM
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HealthyGamerGG interviewed an incel on YouTube. It was very insightful. The incel guy was actually good looking. But it became evident in the interview that his self loathing was what was repelling women. He was so deeply insecure that he was talking himself out of success with women. It was a sad, self fulfilling prophecy. His failures with women had nothing to do with looks or personality. He was cute and witty and made a good living. But man, the way he talked to himself was just so sad. He w…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 07:25 AM
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Lmao! The new trope is that if you're going to get mistreated by a guy, might as well pick a cute one!!
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 07:14 AM
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You know, reading this has made me realize that red pill trains men based on what it thinks women want. There is a heavy assumption that women are after status and hierarchy, (which I would argue is more in line with male psychology) and red pill "trains" its acolytes according to these ideas. I see female relationship gurus do this all the time, too, especially the single ones. They give terrible advice about what men want, but from a woman's perspective. Most of their advice focuses on being f…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 04:13 PM
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It used to be that men sought out women with powerful in-laws and gigantic dowries. They would also steal wives who had kids so they could have access to the woman's resources. This is the direct opposite of red pill, that teaches a woman with children is undesirable. Also, the biggest infusion of wealth in a man's life was often his wedding day. This used to be normal and men were not insecure about this because it helped their position. While I would be wary of a woman lording her income over …
/r/ExRedPill02/04/24 06:30 AM
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It's better when it's in their prompts. If it's funny enough, I take screen shots and send to my friends.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/24 04:51 PM
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A man did this to me, wouldn't trust me even though I was very loyal to him. After a while, I had to cut his ass out of my life. I did not have time for that shit. Love is a gamble with anyone. You are going to have to take a risk that you will be hurt. Anything amazing will not be easy. And Anything easy will not he amazing. Relationships take risk and vulnerability. This is something red pill does not do very well.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 06:23 PM
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You should watch the interview of HealthyGamerGG and the incel. The incel was smart and attractive actually but his shit attitude is what ended up repelling women. I see a lot of what he said reflected in your comments. The stories we tell ourselves are often our own downfall.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 04:43 PM
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Really? May I ask where that is?
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 04:30 PM
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It goes way deeper than looks. In the past, men would seek out women with sizable dowries and powerful in-laws. Strong kinship connections meant power and status. This was when marriage was the primary political tool for organizing society. Often the biggest infusion of wealth in a man's life was his wedding day. It's kind of sick how backwards red pill has it, and blame women for something men have done for centuries.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 09:03 AM
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I didn't used to think so, but lately I have been noticing the same stuff you've been noticing. They do seem a little red pilly, like they have talking points in the same neighborhood. One of their more recent videos was mocking an overweight woman for reasons I can't completely remember. I stopped watching their content.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/24 08:33 AM
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This guy is a troll? Drinking the Kool Aid? And every statement is a question? We should stop wasting our time?
/r/ExRedPill22/01/24 07:12 AM
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So it is better for men to cheat? Because in the past, men went to brothels for fun and sex and their wives looked the other way because it was socially acceptable for men to cheat. Seriously, dude, what is wrong with you?
/r/ExRedPill22/01/24 07:10 AM
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A lot of these women send money home. Be prepared to send your hard earned money to her family, too. This isn't bad to help her family, but you will have to keep it in mind.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/24 07:03 AM
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I think life can be difficult for men and women, in different ways.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/24 06:51 AM
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I think they do pick pick-mes, but if they don't, I think deep down they want a woman who has self respect.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 09:30 PM
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I'm so curious. Why did you get into red pill?
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 09:30 PM
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You are trying to foist an external solution to an internal problem.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/24 07:38 PM
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There was an outstanding video Dr. K did where he interviewed an "incel." It was very thought provoking. Oftentimes, the men that struggle with women have limiting beliefs and it manifests in the way they interact with them. This poor dude believed he was hopeless. Little did he know that that attitude created a downward spiral that drove him into further helplessness.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/24 07:36 PM
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This is true, actually. There is historical documentation to support it.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/24 10:53 PM
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People were WAY more unfaithful in the past, men in particular. They would go to brothels for fun and sex, and wives were expected to look the other way. You have to remember, for much of history, marriage was the weakest social tie because people didn’t marry for love. They married for survival, power, and money. One good thing about modern relationships is that people take cheating way more seriously. I would argue that men are probably more faithful nowadays.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/24 10:52 PM
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That's awesome. Thanks for the reference on Dr. K, I'll have to check it out. As a woman, red pill can be very disheartening. We start to wonder whether men really think like this (because red pill claims this is how all men really think, they just won't say it out loud). If men are like this, we begin to distrust and despise men, which affects how we interact with them, and leads to a downward spiral.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 09:22 PM
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I'm sorry you went through that. Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 09:18 PM
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Wow, I am so sorry you went through that.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 06:24 PM
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What, for you, worked in red pill?
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 06:22 PM
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What sorts of things do you think they are compassionate about? I know one thing is boys getting behind in education and I also hear about the divorce laws being unfair.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 06:21 PM
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What did your friends do? How did they help you out? And what about the good women in your life. I am curious what you thought about them. Like mom, family, lifelong friends. Were they exceptions?
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 06:18 PM
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When you said every once in a while you get the old him back, it made me wonder whether you might be dealing with something deeper than red pill. It sounds like he might have some kind of undiagnosed narcissism or something. If so you need to be very careful when leaving him. Have it all planned out, get help from men stronger than him, and find a way to kick him out, change the locks, whatever it takes as he could get violent. Good luck, I wish you the best.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/24 02:34 AM
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Well, I will say no to a man early on to see how he responds. Does he respect my boundaries or not? Does he flip out if I reschedule something or refuse a physical advance? A lot can be learned from setting a boundary. But...my sense is that RP blogs aren't teaching men how to respect a woman's boundaries, so men like these will inevitably fail all of my "tests."
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 04:34 PM
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I had a male friend who was a virgin until his mid 20s. He was severely socially awkward and had to take medication for his anxiety. It was really bad. I was one of the few people he would talk to in grad school. By chance he started picking up photography. He started publishing his work in student newspapers and started gaining social skills with the exposure he was getting. His new hobby drastically built up his confidence, and it just so happened that women finally started paying attention to…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 06:32 AM
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Wow that sounds so scary!! I'm so glad your children are OK!
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 06:13 AM
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I think you make a really good point. Recently I made a comment about how the RP guys are probably just squeaky wheels. They drew the short straw in some cases and get tons of exposure complaining about it. But, there are lots of people out there who are married and in relationships. The unhappy "nice" guys are the loud ones.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 06:11 AM
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That sounds so difficult. I hope she gets help. Is she open to mediation? Does that work for her?
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 06:07 AM
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Honestly a lot of women are inactive on the apps, and overwhelmed. It might be that they also got discouraged and just aren't active.
/r/ExRedPill16/01/24 12:27 AM
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6/10 is still above average. So you are saying above average still isn't good enough for you.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 06:52 PM
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Toastmasters might help you. I would look into one of those. Social skills goes a really, really long way, even in a professional environment. I learned the hard way that it isn't the most knowledgeable person who gets the promotions. Often it is the person who can finesse.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 06:46 PM
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Honestly I have to wonder how much of this is just the miserable or socially challenged people online venting and creating a perception that things are bad. A lot of people out there are married or in relationships. Edit to add: OP, you might want to consider toastmasters and therapy if you haven't already. The stories you tell yourself will have a significant impact on your life. If you assume no one likes you, you will go through life with a sour attitude and a huge chip on your shoulder. I ca…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 06:44 PM
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She could be the type that wants you to be more proactive about planning. A lot of women hate being asked "What do you want to do?" in the beginning stages. Despite your best efforts, your statement still comes across that way, and Some women feel this is lazy. I know you just want to do something she enjoys, but if a woman is constantly asked by many men "Is there somewhere in particular you want..." you can see how this makes you look like everyone else who puts in little effort. To be fair, y…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 04:10 AM
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Part of it is probably algorithms. Every time I talk to someone IRL, they've never heard of red pill or it's disgusting ideas. They are often shocked to hear about it. The algorithms probably target certain demographics, which makes it looks like everyone knows.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/24 03:48 AM
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Have you learned nothing from red pill? Late 20s is too old.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/24 06:22 AM
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I highly recommend Marriage, a History, by Stephanie Coontz.
/r/ExRedPill12/01/24 06:42 AM
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You're getting downvoted but you make good points. My first exposure to the manosphere was Neil Strauss when he wrote the Game. I think I read it in like 2007 or something.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/24 09:36 PM
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If I were you, I would pick up Marriage, A History by Stephanie Coontz. It will smash a lot of the red pill ideas. Historically speaking, the male-provider marriage has only been around for about a hundred years, maybe less. At some points in history, men used to marry older women with kids BECAUSE she had children, so that they could have access to the resources of their in-laws. At other points in history, because the economic situation was so bad, women were expected to be economically indepe…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/23 09:51 PM
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Roosh Valizadeh has been around a long time.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/23 09:41 PM
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One time a guy hunted me down via social media to connect. It was borderline creepy, but I was impressed with the effort. He messaged me, asked me out, and I said yes. I didn't hear back from him for a week. I lost interest. Men need to be quick when dealing with women. Otherwise they seem uninterested and it is the biggest turn off.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/23 08:36 PM
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What happened when you contacted the woman from the club? Many women need reassurance, to be honest. They like it when a man consistently communicates. It helps them feel safe. Some don't like this, but most often the complaint from women is that they don't get enough communication. Women need to feel connection to feel safe.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/23 08:09 PM
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Many of my posts are political. I used to use FB as a platform and alienated a lot of friends lmao. I barely post on IG. My profile is on private and I don't respond to strangers.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 10:26 PM
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Not me, that feels like cheating. When I end a relationship, it's because it's not a match. I also like to take time between relationships so I can fully process what happened and learn lessons. I honestly feel like this whole idea that women monkeybranch is a bunch of projection. I had an ex boyfriend who had another woman a week after we broke up. In my experience, men "move on" quickly far more often than women. ​ Edit: And to answer your question, yes. Telling a woman she is a horse in a rac…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/23 07:41 AM
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You watch too many movies...probably of a certain type.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/23 03:44 PM
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Or asks a woman what she brings to the table? Yikes.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/23 08:10 AM
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I am reading a book on the history of marriage and there is so much of history they get wrong. The whole 1950s single earner circumstance was a fluke of history due to the industrial revolution and the proliferation of cash economies. Prior to that, both men and women shared all the work, typically on a farm as peasants. Domestic labor was considered both a masculine and a feminine virtue. What's interesting is that women had no opportunity to be "hypergamous" because they had no control over wh…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/23 03:03 AM
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As a woman, I prefer something low key for the first few dates. One thing a lot of red pill men refuse to understand about women is our tendency to feel like we have to return the favor in some way. Because our society has become so libertine, it has gotten so bad that some women will feel like they should repay dinner with sex. Now, some women don't have a problem with a man paying for all the dates, but a lot of women are uncomfortable with it because there's always that thing at the back of o…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/23 08:03 PM
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The idea that only women look for resources is patently false. Historically women could not choose their own mates. The parents did, and they often chose matches with good kinship connections to secure their own survival. If anyone was what red pill called "hypergamous," it was in fact the men. They sought power and resources. What better way to do that than a woman with acres of land and a sizable dowry. Red pill is historically inaccurate in terms of marriage. Beauty was a foolish and dangerou…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/23 06:58 PM
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I believe it is mostly ignorance and false nostalgia that dominates red pill. The whole 1950s single earner lifestyle is a very new historical development. A woman with a good dowry and good kinship relations was a highly sought after bride for millenia, suggesting that men have been highly "hypergamous" historically. The modern equivalent to a dowry would be a high earning woman with her own property and networking connections. Fascinatingly, men at some points in history would actually seek wo…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/23 07:12 PM
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What did Rich Cooper say? And did he say this on YT?
/r/ExRedPill12/07/23 10:01 PM
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This makes me so sad. More and more I am seeing really nasty comments aimed at women on social media.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/23 05:43 PM
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How is your hygiene? I would also strongly consider hiring a dating coach. They might be able to teach you how to flirt, and point things out to you that you may not see. Sometimes our mindsets can cause us to self-sabotage.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/23 05:38 PM
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Out of curiosity, how many other guys your age were into red pill?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/23 09:27 PM
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It looks like Mike Pantile got rid of his YouTube channel?
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 05:50 AM
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The all-important is-ought gap. Just because something "is" a certain way, does not mean it "ought" to be that way.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/23 07:10 PM
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I lose interest when a guy doesn't show interest in me. It is a turn off.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 07:26 AM
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There was another post recently that talked about vulnerability. Red pill doesn't teach vulnerability. In fact it teaches the opposite. So, you can sleep with 100 women, but if you do not learn to give, be vulnerable, and invest in another person, then you are not learning how to be in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/23 07:18 AM
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This is actually how it has been for millenia. Marriage has historically been the vehicle through which men amassed powerful kin alliances and acquiring resources. By this definition, it was men who were often the hypergamous sex, seeking to level up through acquiring wives. It seems history is rearing its ugly head.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/23 07:29 PM
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Yes. It's very difficult being in a relationship with someone like that. You are better off meeting someone who is not afraid to let their guard down.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 11:14 PM
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Yes. Vulnerability is critical for a real relationship. I have dated men who refused to be vulnerable with me. It felt like there was a thick, brick wall between us, and I could never really know them. They also refused to really invest in the relationship, because they were terrified I would leave. This is not how you cultivate love. The result was that they ended up closing themselves off and treating me horribly, to the point where I eventually had to leave. "Maintaining frame" and refusing t…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 07:18 PM
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Yeah I am not done with the book, but I was shocked to learn that it has historically been men that went after women of status, not the other way around. Marriage served a comple different function historically. It's actually been quite a fascinating read.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 05:54 PM
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MARRIAGE, A HISTORY: FROM OBEDIENCE TO INTIMACY OR HOW LOVE CONQUERED MARRIAGE by Stephanie Coontz.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 05:44 PM
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I have been reading a book on the history of marriage and it is astounding how much red pill gets it wrong. They have a completely anachronistic view of history. I feel sorry them. They buy into toxic lies and are ruining their chances at true love in the process.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/23 03:49 AM
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What are the updates? Did F&F lose followers? They were already trash, but now it's just a whole other level of yikes.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/23 04:20 AM
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Yeah, most people are going to go on those subs to complain and get advice for bad situations. So there's a lot self selection bias there. Maybe you could consider hiring a dating coach. There's also Alison Armstrong. She has some courses on dating and understanding women (and men) that I've found very helpful in navigating dating.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 03:24 PM
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I agree that the longer it takes, the harder it gets.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 08:05 AM
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Out of curiosity, are these people men?
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 07:37 AM
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I'm surprised to hear you say women are happier being single. If anything, I think it's the opposite--women tend to crave relationships. Many men tend to wax on and on about how they need their solitude, freedom, etc. Men often complain about how women get clingy and needy, especially aftet sex. If anything, it has always seemed that men could deal with singleness better than women.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 07:35 AM
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I don't think most people want to be alone. I don't think we are designed to be alone. I think most people, if given the chance, would jump at the chance of a fulfilling, lasting relationship with the right person. But relationships are hard and they take work, and it's difficult to meet people you are attracted to, who are also attracted to you.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/23 07:31 AM
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I'm so sorry. You know, as a woman, it wasn't until I learned about red pill that I even discovered that 6 ft was the "floor" for "high value" attraction. I dated a guy who was 6'3" once and tbh it was a pain kissing him. He was too tall. This leads me to wonder how many women who have never even heard of red pill started adopting that standard simply because it became popular AS A RESULT of red pill. Sort of like a "keeping up with the Joneses" effect. Which means red pill is causing self fulfi…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/23 02:04 AM
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Yes, this. If I get a whiff of red pill, I run.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 10:27 PM
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This is 10 years old, but it is good and covers a lot of ground: https://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 10:22 PM
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What does "work" mean? Bedding someone? Or forming a long-lasting, loving partnership?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 10:07 PM
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This is kind of what I'm talking about. It's just such a common trope that many male friends are waiting for the opportunity to get with the girl once given the opportunity.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 11:54 PM
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This is really interesting--thanks for sharing. I think admitting that most men would sleep with the best friend if given a chance goes against the bro code.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 10:13 PM
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I know I'm going to be downvoted for this, but I think that WOMEN can have platonic friendships with men, but it is a lot more difficult for men to do this if he is attracted to a woman. My suspicion is that if a man is attracted to a woman, he's always going to be hoping for more. This question was recently posted on r/AskMen, and many of the responses were like this: Sure, I have a lot of female friends but I am not attracted to them.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/23 05:05 PM
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Honestly women also experience the same type of anxiety when it comes to response time. You're not alone in that, it is a human thing. I think the thing that is probably most bothersome to you is wondering if they are playing games with you or if they are genuinely unable to respond.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/23 01:12 AM
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They have their own language, leaders they follow, the fact that there is no independent thought allowed (All women are like that, all women hit the wall and are undesirable past a certain age, etc.), and the idea that they have the Truth with a capital T. And as someone mentioned above, the mind control. It mostly boils down to the mind control and it being very difficult to leave easily because of the grip it has on the mind. While RP as a whole may not have had defined boundaries, there are p…
/r/ExRedPill14/05/23 03:22 PM
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RP is a cult, just like Scientology. This is why there are so many similarities.
/r/ExRedPill13/05/23 02:43 PM
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Well, from a woman's point of view, it feels like he is lazy. Pick a time, pick a place. Take initiative. When a man fails to plan, it is a turn off. I tend to be a bit more traditional, though. I expect men to lead in the beginning.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/23 10:29 PM
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I don't understand your question, sorry.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/23 09:00 PM
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It's still very difficult.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/23 04:10 AM
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Other people in the pub may still be able to help vet them though. Case in point, the last guy I dated, I met at a local bar. A few weeks in, one of the other guys there noticed we were becoming an item and privately said something to me like, "He's good for a fun time but not a long time." He was trying to warn me. You don't get this type of social network protection when dating in a vacuum online.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/23 10:26 PM
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I am not sure. In the real world you may not be as likely to date in a vacuum and can vet men by asking mutual friends. For example, I've had several friends tell me "X is single but I'd never set you up with him because of y issues." Whereas I may have matched with this person online. Online dating takes away a lot of the protection and accountability of real world dating.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/23 09:14 PM
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Because the OLD experience is really awful for women, too. It is full of men who are not ready to invest in something real, men who do not follow through, men who fail to plan, men who are dangerous, men who treat first dates like therapy sessions, men who only want sex, men who ghost, men who lie about intentions, men who are there for validation, etc. I have met every single one of these. I once had a man bring a gun to a date. Another one told me he was a felon and expected me to kiss him at …
/r/ExRedPill08/05/23 07:21 PM
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Honestly a man wanted by many women kind of puts a damper on the relationship. More temptation for the man to cheat. The hot ones tend to be less trustworthy because women may be constantly trying to steal him away. Not to say a man can't be handsome and trustworthy, but a lifetime of access to women would be a dynamic in the relationship that I don't know I'd want to deal with.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/23 12:42 AM
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I feel like any man who is an actual "alpha" will laugh thoroughly at the idea of "alpha." Genuinely confident and nurturing men are repulsed at the idea treating women as less than. It is not necessary for a confident man to demand to be called such things.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/23 01:24 AM
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My number 1 criterion is if they're married. If they're not married, I don't trust them nearly as much. Second criterion is if they call out men and women equally. I do find that the dating sphere is filled with more women than men, so it tends to feel like they are calling women out more, but most of them will put equal blame/credit to both sexes.
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 12:05 PM
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It's interesting to me how the social acceptance of casual sex has contributed to the problem of "incels." Up until very recently, you either had to be married or go to a brothel to have sex as a man. (As a woman, you had to wait until marriage or face social disgrace.) The former required resources, which required men to be a certain age to acquire those resources in the first place, so they probably weren't having a lot of sex anyway. The latter wasn't really socially acceptable, but it was a …
/r/ExRedPill17/11/22 10:59 AM
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Yeah. Red pill content is extremely harsh on women.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/22 05:27 PM
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I strongly recommend Alison Armstrong. She has a lot of free content online, some of it on dating. I recently bought her "In sync with the opposite sex" course. There was a lot of practical advice there for men and women.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 06:36 AM
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Thanks so much for your encouraging words. It seems like red pill logic is really picking up a lot lately.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 05:38 AM
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It's a perception of strength. It makes sense if a woman cannot distinguish.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 08:06 AM
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I recently read two books, the Male Brain and the Female Brain, by Louann Brizendine. It didn't really support the idea that promiscuous women can't bond, but it did talk about the different hormones involved in developing a bond. Oxytocin and vasopressin were the main hormones. There is some truth to the idea that women bond faster than men after intercourse. I don't know about long term effects, though.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 01:26 AM
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Highly recommend reading Alison Armstrong's The Queen's Code. It's a little over the top, but it will change your mind about who men are.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 01:09 AM
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Fresh or Fit (don't know which is which) attacked Preach's wife, basically called her fat, and was going on a rant about how they are "better" than Aba and Preach (lmao). https://youtu.be/-BOew04B458 Preach called him out, even challenged him to a fistfight, but Fresh/Fit was too much of a coward to rise to the challenge. Not too long afterward, F&F issued an "apology." https://youtu.be/-BOew04B458
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 06:22 AM
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She's pretty hippie dippie. She's not a right winger, but is a guest on Dennis Prager's show. I think you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If anything, kudos to Prager for hosting a liberal on his show.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 03:48 AM
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It's more geared towards relationship advice, but I highly recommend Alison Armstrong's work on understanding men. It doesn't directly invalidate red pill in the way you seek, and sometimes will align with the more mild parts of it (things like the difference in men's libido, need for respect, etc.), but is very strong on mutual respect between the sexes and how lasting relationships can be achieved by understanding differences. It's more a "different angle" than an antonym, but I feel her work …
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 07:28 PM
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