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| 32 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent Behavior | CMV | Silver_Bathroom_2717 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 01:08 PM |
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| 2 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorI think that makes sense. If it truly is a Just Universe (tm) then sexual assault doesn't really happen at random and to people who don't provoke it somehow; thus, since it is a Just Universe, those who are sexually assaulted must provoke it. The alternative--that it's a nasty and unfair world out there, with a great deal of nonsense that happens at random to people who don't deserve it--is really unpalatable! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorFair, in theory, but the reality is (especially as man) most people simply don't care about you. One for all and all for one only works if everyone's on board and there's some degree of reciprocity... otherwise you're just being played for a fool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorIn regards to the road trips, that's not my experience. I guess it's very particular to individual families/groups, typically the competent one may be singled out and expect to carry everything on their own lol. I think we're mostly on the same page. Suggesting risk mitigation is one thing, but I too really don't like the "asking for it" sentiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorNo, she's sharing her perspective and experiences, I think she should be heard with respect at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorFirstly, I'm sorry you've had to go through what you have. I guess my point is more pertinent to the fantastic image of rape (an ape lurking in the darkness around the corner), versus the reality of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:42 PM |
| 8 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorFor a better understanding, consider if someone by no consent of your own permanently affixed cash or a watch to a spot on your body you did not choose. Now the burden is supposedly on you to keep those places covered at all times to avoid becoming a victim. You know, that's an EXCELLENT point! Thank you for the analogy. Even the defenses of "dress in baggy clothes" doesn't really work because a lady who is dressed shabbily could look like prey to predatory men. Even if she doesn't, she will ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 04:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorMaybe it is because it just doesn't occur to the men who get into victim blaming territory that women already (generally) take crazy precautions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 04:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorI guess it is a low bar. But, what do you think about the concept in general? Do you think that the concept of radical ownership is what results in some victim-blaming like statements? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 03:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorI agree that individual experiences are likely to be very diverse. But what do you think about the concept of radical ownership as it relates to sexual assault and victim blaming? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 02:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Ownership" Explains Some Victim Blaming-Adjacent BehaviorLol, yes, so I changed the formatting and wording slightly to make it a CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?Yes, I agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?I agree, I think that's fair. Honestly, fairness is a key here. I think that if someone who was very well of/earned a lot married someone from different circumstances, a fair divorce agreement could honestly be tiered... like if you're married for less than 3 years, the less well off person could get like $5-10k just to leave, find a place, and restart their lives. 3-10 years, maybe some agreed-upon percentage of earnings, especially if they've given up their career. And then a higher proportion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 11:56 AM |
| 10 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?With respect, this is a very absurd line of questioning. The first one is so inherently entitled that I don't think it is worth addressing, but to the second one--she has said that her husband WANTS her to be an SAHM, so it's not really SHE who thinks that an SAHM is a value to the husband, it is her husband himself! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Men in your 30s, do you actually not want to date women in their 30s?Yeah, the idea that 30s men do or should want young 20s women is TRP bullshit. I honestly don't blame people in general or women in specific for believing that men in general may behave that way though, with as loud and obnoxious as TRP-types tend to be. To answer the question, though, I agree with you. Healthy people generally want people their own age, plus or minus a little, and maybe plus or minus a significant bit if and only if it is healthy and relatively even, without vast power disparit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:50 PM |
| 15 | Both sides are offering a fantasy.So what you're saying is, we need a Venn diagram of all pills... a pill cocktail, as it were. Or a Tide Pod? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 12:25 PM |
| 6 | Both sides are offering a fantasy.I think bluepill can be more sour grapes than anything else. Be confident, nice, and well put together and you're bound to attract some female sexual/romantic interest. And if you don't attract some female sexual/romantic interest, you must not be confident, nice, or well put together. To be fair, the above statement is probably mostly true, but just as it's very, very difficult for a single lady in her late 30s+ to find a good man, it can be very, very difficult for a man who is short, doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 12:24 PM |
| – | Women and girls are reading the manosphere forums and subs, that makes them less likely to date.The manosphere is actively making life worse and less safe for women. I'd soften this statement just a bit before I agree with it. TRP is clearly awful, MGTOW suffers from an obsession with misogyny for all their talk of not wanting to have anything to do with women, and then of course the Tate and Tate-adjacent crowd is indefensible, but mensrights, menslib, and a handful of TRP-types are, as disagreeable as they may be, not out to harm women or their rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 05:05 PM |
| 8 | Are hot women in their 20s actually interested in men in their 30s?I think the line of advice is self-serving confirmation bias. Tell a bunch of awkward/lonely guys in their twenties to just wait a decade and they'll somehow magically get "hot 20-somethings" by magically being wealthier and more successful, and they'll eat it up, lol. And yes, some proportion of these awkward/lonely 20-something men will improve themselves and become more successful, and some of them may well date younger women. These "success cases" will be cherry-picked and advertised as proo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 01:44 PM |
| – | Women and girls are reading the manosphere forums and subs, that makes them less likely to date.Yeah, by focusing on manosphere forums, OP is actively and intentionally focusing on the anonymous ramblings of the angriest, saddest, most disaffected and misogynistic men out there, lol. Not saying ALL men on the manosphere are that way, and there are some that are reasonable, such as those on menslib and mensrights, but there is definitely a very awful environment in most of the manosphere. Now by all means, women should be aware of what the nastiest men are thinking and saying--know thy enem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 01:40 PM |
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