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| 1 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwardsI think most people project the dysfunctions of young woman attracted males(YWAMs) upon the older male and the young women(YW) alike. They presume that male attraction to younger women is identical to male attraction to older women. Not true. I've interacted with many of these men and they tend to have lower intensity physical desires. For example, some prefer what younger people refer to as "making out" to full blown intercourse. In fact, one of the things my acquaintance had to learn to do whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 04:11 PM |
| – | Men are not attracted to young women because they are "naive and easy to manipulate" but mainly because they are thinner and have nicer skin. If you are a woman and you take care of yourself, you can post-pone "hitting the wall" and remain attractive even into your early 40s.You know what's funny to me, Jephta? The disproportionate worry that adult men will manipulate young women' minds and hearts rather than the other way around. Yes, such people do exist, but I think an adult male is just as likely to get manipulated and have his emotions toyed with as a young woman, because there are many sociopathic YW who are of low character and who delight in playing games, especially when they see the type of power they have over an adult male. Yes, it's true...many YW are a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 02:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwardsI think young women often choose the worst older men to date, which increases the stigma that any older guy who goes for young women must be looking for someone who is "easy to control." Anyone who knows young women enough should know better than that...young women tend to be VERY assertive, regardless of their level of self-esteem, and NOT overly eager to please any older man, especially not one they are close to. If an older guy's preferred attraction base is for YW chances are good that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 02:37 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwardsIt is bizzare how men who push the narrative that young women are more desirable than older women are always exclusively described as a ‘certain type’. It’s always talked about as a ‘fantasy’ fueled by a desire that they are prone to 'fulfilling' and that young women need to be protected from the inevitable harm of this addiction. They are always characterized as animals with a sole desire to actively 'control' younger women and pounce on them when the opportunity arises. But most older men grad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 12:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: men push this narrative that older women are less attractive but they have it backwards[ Removed by Reddit ] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/25 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Guy here asking questionsI prefer using the term "egalitarian" to "feminist" because, IMO, the former carries more weight and importance in the modern world. It includes support for the rights of everyone and is therefore potentially unifying. Utilizing it does not risk evoking the outrage that the bastardization of the term by the "third wave" misandrists have wrought, which makes its use in the modern world potentially divisive unless the user goes out of their way to clarify which definition they are using. Egalitari… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/06/25 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Perceived victimhood is power in society so feminists will never give it up“People use it to maintain power for themselves. They use it to generate money” Not just people but a whole industrial complex which includes the government, legal system, academia(denouncement of peer reviewed papers that go against their agenda that have been fully replicated), medical(victimizes subjects through coercive “therapy”), prison industry(economically exploits men), and charities(expanding influence of gov into the domain of virtue) One particular way it generates profits with the l… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/25 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Perceived victimhood is power in society so feminists will never give it upProbably not, but we can speed up the process by starting a chain reaction. More and more men need to come out and share positive stories where a woman they know are not ‘victims’. Discussion is what has the potential to shift the idea of victimhood status from “unthinkable” to “controversial” of the Overton window, and that’s the first step towards “normal”. The main point is to talk about the opposing side of the story until the matter becomes draining. This process of ‘desensitization’ can be… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/25 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Perceived victimhood is power in society so feminists will never give it upWhat really bothers me is how many of them take on a whole social identity based on "I was victimized," just as other people take on social identities like "geek," "stoner," "hipster," etc. They wallow in the sympathy and deference they receive, which gives them all the more incentive not to heal and move past the pain; and as a PC excuse to have free rein to vent and lash out at others without any consequences to themselves (since it's largely considered "heartless" to hold them accountable for… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/25 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Such peeps seem to possess a strong emotional need to identify themselves as a "savior" and a group of people whom they perceive as (read: want to be) an "inherently" vulnerable group which requires their "protection." It makes them feel good, noble, and needed in their own eyes, while the object of their reverence personifies the role of the vulnerable party who would be devoured by the "wolves" (older men, along with the world in general) without the intercession of their brave and caring hand… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/25 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Because feminism infantilizes women all the time" Feminists do not want equality for young women; what they really want is for them to remain socially dependent on older adults, and to stay within the parameters of the glorious state of socially constructed "youth" and "purity" and thus firmly under adult control for as long as possible. Feminism condones the infantilization of young women as being favorable to their well-being due to the ideological glorification of our current paradigm of yout… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/25 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?I've always maintained that double standard style prejudice towards older men- which maintains that older men who pursue younger women are inherently demonic - is a major component of age gap norms. You will notice that older women are, for the most part, left alone or overlooked in comparison to older men when it comes to this. This is one of the main reasons a pursuit of age gaps relationships is often seen as a strictly male phenomenon. There does seem to be more older men who are attracted t… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?A misandrist attitude toward men who date younger women is very appealing to contemporary liberals, who have gone a long way towards developing support for rules and laws that prohibit other personal choices they disapprove of for young women. An interesting observation is these prohibitions very often (though most certainly not always) target unpopular sexual choices. As we can see with so many liberals that oppose the right for young women women to choose sex work as a vocation (we'll get to t… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Misandrists demonize men who date young women and men and compare it to murder and rape, yet they and their ideological ilk (which is large but gradually decreasing numbers of people in the West) have no problem with blindly accepting the problematic amount of social and political phenomena that cause untold harm to young people--e.g., rampant poverty; physical abuse and bullying by parents; extreme neglect; bullying from teachers and fellow students as a result of a mandatory totalitarian educa… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 09:33 PM |
| 3 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?A problem is young women who pick older men are stereotyped by society, as having emotional issues, and are assumed to not get enough adult attention at home. As a result of this bias, many young women who break the norms are forced into therapy to try and modify them into only being attracted to boys their own age. Personally I see this as one of the most deplorable actions society can ever perform on a young member of society. It's also very condescending to younger women as a group, to sugges… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Even if we accept the notion that teens are easy to take advantage of or they don't know what they're doing, I could just as easily say that it would be more beneficial for a 18-year-old to date an older, more mature person in their 20s with experience who knows how to treat a woman over a bumbling and awkward 18 YO boy. Not to mention the sex would most likely be light years ahead in quality over sex with a same-age peer. Want to learn how to play a guitar? Take lessons with an experienced musi… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Cont. The now burgeoning LGBTQ community has not resulted in mass numbers of men and women abandoning relationships with partners of the opposite gender (despite the pressure by certain elements of the SJW crowd to actually push things in that direction). Instead, society has come to the realization that diversity is the rule, and homogeneity can never be "forced." Diversity has to be accepted, because attempting to force a square peg into a round hole isn't going to result in a good fit for eit… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Older men in their 30's are demonized as "creepy old men" even if they politely proposition a younger woman of the bare minimum legal age of 18 and even in her early 20s. Why? Because people find it icky, and want to keep age groups as segregated as possible, even when the younger party involved is old enough to legally make their own decisions. As the OP has said and as I've reiterated twice in this discussion, this idea is VERY new in history, and what I have found after discussing this ad nau… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 06:00 PM |
| 3 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?Movements have been made in the past to increase the stigmatization of age gaps in some countries and in America, but they have been vehemently opposed by most people only until recently because, well, Americans value freedom and liberty since millions of older and young people are romantically attracted to each other and would suddenly lose the right to be in relationships without being judged or penalized. Large age gaps were normal in every society through all time. Under any other circumstan… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 05:19 PM |
| 12 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?“Imbalance of power” It's virtually impossible to find two individuals with absolutely equal power in all ways. You could find a couple consisting of a man and a woman, or two men, or two women, with roughly equal station in life, but one of the two partners is physically stronger than the other. Or a boss may be dating an employee, or a college professor a student. You can find a couple where one is smarter than the other; or faster; or has a more worldly background due to, maybe, having long p… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Don't you love how Misandric society completely demonize men for dating younger women like it's worse than murder and rape?The public view of the situation faced by men today, and the 'hatred surrounding age gaps ', is that it is utterly unique in history. So this is why it can be cogently argued that it might last forever, so they need to own up to this fact and realize that fighting for change is futile. Those who argue this are either truly ignorant of history, or are "playing dumb" to facilitate their beliefs. The "age gap hatred" you're talking about is what is known as a moral panic, and they have occurred on … | /r/MensRights | 25/06/25 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Men need to learn to be happy being singleAlso many of them will find themselves yearning for those good old days when they used to be able to stay at home and enjoy the peace of gaming all day without worrying about having to spend time with their partner. I’ve been single for a while since my last long-running relationship. I’m quite happy. I have much free time to attend live music events stress free without interruptions. There are so many things I wouldn’t have been able to do over the past few years if I was in a relationship. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Men need to learn to be happy being singleIt is better than nothing but not really what most guys want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 02:14 PM |
| 1 | How can you tell between "High Value Women" and "Low value Women"?It depends on what a guy is looking for, so meeting all the criteria you listed isn’t necessary in all cases. The only exception I’ll make is being friendly; that’s an absolute must. Some guys can let go of some faults like an inability to cook if she has a good personality. Some essential things to add to the list that are: confidence in her worth and good self maintenance(eats healthy, works out etc.). I’m far more knowledgeable about nutrition than the average person, so the eating healthy pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Men are shamed for basically having sexual desiresSuch an ideological atmosphere is going to do no favor to the character traits of many females out there, and make life almost as miserable for males in today’s world. Moreover, it will be looked upon as condescending by many females who truly want equality, not despotic privilege wrought of pandering to them, which implies they are the inherently "weaker" sex who cannot achieve equality with males. I think those who espouse this "women are weak and vulnerable, we have to pander to them" and "me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Men are shamed for basically having sexual desiresSuch an ideological atmosphere is going to do no favor to the character traits of many females out there, and make life almost as miserable for males (which you clearly dislike and distrust) in today’s world. Moreover, it will be looked upon as condescending by many females who truly want equality, not despotic privilege wrought of pandering to them, which implies they are the inherently "weaker" sex who cannot achieve equality with males. I think thoss who espouse this "women are weak and vulne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Men are shamed for basically having sexual desiresI think precautions around threatening males are, at their crux at least, based as much on anti-male sentiments as anything else. Hence, it's not surprising when I see opponents pandering to and exaggerating female disadvantage in society to the point of arguing for laws and attitudes that give females so much despotic power that they can interpret almost any type of intimate interaction with a male as rape simply by saying something to the effect, "I didn't think it was rape at the time, true, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 04:04 AM |
| 1 | It's more socially acceptable to slut-shame men than womenBased on my experiences this is true actually. Contemporary women are often told in official circles that it's perfectly healthy and normal for them to enjoy a sex life, to have sexual desires, to derive pleasure from recreational sexual activity, and to use sexual expression as a way of facilitating greater independence. But on the other hand, they're constantly bombarded with "slut-shaming" sentiments that seek to deride their character and inherent value if they do not try to rigidly adhere t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 03:39 AM |
| 1 | For women who are against porn because you believe it harms women, are you also against drawn/CGI or otherwise artificial porn?Oops. My bad, I was reading someone else’s comment. But if it’s fake porn I don’t see why not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 03:21 AM |
| 2 | I DON'T buy that men who date a younger woman do it because they're easier to manipulateI always hear the argument that high age gaps are a bad because too many men are manipulative or controlling, but there is a glaring flaw about this argument for maintaining the status quo that nobody seems to notice. Saying that they are bad because too many men are manipulative misses the fact that, barring extreme events, someone’s fundamental personality is set from a very young age and does not change. It might lean one way or another at times, but it never strays very far for very long. Pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 03:12 AM |
| 2 | For women who are against porn because you believe it harms women, are you also against drawn/CGI or otherwise artificial porn?The simple right for males to gain the type of gratification that is a natural yearning of all humans by looking at porn and animated porn has been called into question based on the ideology that it causes "harm" to the "spirit of a woman" What they mean by "spirit of the woman" is, of course, the paradigm that the concept of "The innocent female" represents to our Western post-Victorian values. The mere idea of someone gleaning sexual gratification from any type of imagery that represents this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 02:58 AM |
| 2 | How do you deal with being perpetually lonely?Look on the bright side: you have more free time for yourself :) | /r/MensRights | 11/09/24 01:42 AM |
| 4 | This "men want sex" thing is too muchYup. Also, lack of sensitivity due to circumcision and genital cutting, so quickies aren’t always possible without much more force/HJs. (mainly applies to Western dudes who are cut at birth) | /r/MensRights | 11/09/24 01:32 AM |
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