Sinity Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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12	Men shouldn’t feel bad about women preferring“bad boys” over “good guys” because those women are not worth chasing in the first place Dark triad is pretty bad tho.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/23 12:43 PM
8	Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB group And 99% of the time I think belive women is the best method No, it's zero-sum. Believe women is just a shorthand from "believe women over men". Anyone "believing women" is taking sides.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/05/23 04:33 PM
3	George Orwell on Male Disposability So we can't have social constructivism for women and in the same time biological determinism for men, at least whenever their sacrifice is "needed". And yet we do. Don't expect consistency.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/05/23 02:29 PM
3	George Orwell on Male Disposability Even though a single man could in theory impregnate many women, in practice, our actually-existing social structures prevent that from occurring. But it kinda is happening. Orwell seems wrong, unfortunately. That still doesn't mean society operating as if that's a given, as if males really are worth less, morally is ok. Src The consensus narrative seems to be that traditional patriarchy had for ages ensured men’s access to sex, until feminism came along and gave women a choice in the matter—the …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/05/23 02:27 PM
1	What will it take to change your mind? This is a good way to strengthen your argument to the point were it is well supported and irrefutable. And people can just ignore it anyways. Unfortunately pointing out that some group is mistreated won't convince people to stop doing that if they don't care.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/05/23 02:06 PM
7	Question for the peeps in this sub: Do you want the bonding nature of men to change for the better or should we respect the way most men socialize, but encourage more “bromance” culture? the way that men bond doesn’t make any sense and that it is their fault for why their issues are not taken seriously by their mainstream We're biologically wired that way. It's nonsense to make it a problem to be solved. It won't be. Men can't socialize with other men like women socialize with other women. Now couple that with dramatically rising number of single men... it's frankly disgusting our society just lets that happen. If women don't want to interact with one half of the men who are bor…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/05/23 01:30 PM
1	What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it? Luckily most people don't end up going to the extremes of FDS, inceldom or TRP. 60% of men under 30 in my country will vote for a far-right party, apparently. But things might be worse here than in the US, for example our M:F suicide ratio is over 7x.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 05:50 AM
2	What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it? No generation had it easy and to act like the modern age is the pinnacle of hardship is laughable, especially if you're in a first-world western country. ~1/3 of men being celibate is a new thing. And even feminists say In fact, falling birthrates track with just one metric: a rise in female empowerment itself. The right to contraception and abortion allows women not to have children they don’t want and life offers them a greater range of interesting choices outside motherhood. That accounts for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 05:41 AM
1	What exactly were you told about dating women growing up and who said it? Now I feel kinda lucky for concluding, somewhen in primary school, that I'm incapable of relationships. Autism, through I didn't know it back then. I don't understand why schoolchildren aren't given things like AQ tests. Some time later I saw some low complexity descriptions of Asperger's, but I figured that it's meaningless. I had social difficulties, obviously - so how useful would it be to learn whether I'm autistic or not? It's not fixable anyway. I was probably wrong about it, due to assumi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 05:29 AM
1	What are problems men face that women don’t face? This comment reminded me of this unhinged thing Last paragraphs: Gender is a hyperstition overlayed on sex by the male. Its function is to objectify the female and impose on her a social function as a machine whose duty is to reproduce the human, always in the service of the male, who alone has no future and must have sons to pass his legacy onto. It is a primordial dynamic of order and chaos, centralization and decentralization, strong singular individualism and command-and-control versus high …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 04:39 AM
1	A Researcher Studied The Most Common Last Words Of Suicidal Men That was before automation and a move towards service industry, the pill, baby formula, fridges and various household appliances. The old model no longer make sense. And the part of the old model that focused on restricting women has been broken down. Yep. Link 10. Families will continue to decline in importance. A near majority of children will be being raised in single-parent homes by 2050. For those who think this number is too high, this rate has been climbing consistently, especially in the…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 04:25 AM
1	'Woke AI'- bias against men And they don't have to appeal to 1%-ratio big shouters with zero clout. They feel like they do, at least sometimes. I was in the Q&A with Sam Altman some time ago (maybe a year?). I asked whether they considered just not censoring stuff - since it's absurd to pretend AI outputting e.g. sexual content is actual harm. He said that he does think there might be a potential for some harm. But most of the response was him explaining that they don't want bad press. Because it's demoralizing to the empl…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 03:29 AM
1	'Woke AI'- bias against men Most people are not woke. They're pro-equality, and have a sense of fairness and justice. It's not about opinions of people, it's about opinions expressed in the text corpus used as training data. Mainstream journalists, not average humans.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 03:20 AM
1	'Woke AI'- bias against men A chatbot is essentially a cybernetic parrot Timnit Gebru is full of shit.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 03:18 AM
1	'Woke AI'- bias against men It's not that it's developed to be biased against men. The problem is in the data. They're actually trying to make it neutral - but it's not easy. Link I have just probed for political biases the recently released GPT-4 by using the same methodology I employed when examining the political biases of ChatGPT. Namely, administering political orientation tests to the model through its interactive prompt. On first impression, the political biases previously apparent in ChatGPT appear to be gone. The …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/05/23 03:16 AM
8	Demonization of Men The women in 1984 had the appropriate reaction, about the same as men today. And men had shitty reaction back then, which is interesting. Men became sensible about it, while women became kinda monstrous.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/05/23 05:00 AM
4	"If you want a movement for men so bad, just start one yourself. There's nothing stopping you." And when they seek help, it's either the feminism movement that tells them they are monsters and unlovable, so no wonder women don't want to date them, or other, disenfranchised, loveless men who (correctly) identify that the system has failed them, and (incorrectly) turn to bitterness and hatred. Real example: In my heart, there is a little counter that reads “XXX days without a ten-thousand word rant about feministm.” And I had just broken three digits when they had to go after Scott Aaronson.…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	05/05/23 10:53 PM
1	The viral trend of labeling every man who finds younger women attractive as predatory has gotten wildly out of control It's even legal where I live, so yeah. Even if it wasn't, it doesn't change the attraction. You know thought-crimes aren't a real thing? 15 year olds are post-puberty teenagers, not "kids". Europe. Well, in about half it's 15, other half is even 14. For example in Germany it's 14. Wiki. The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 18 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination, in which case a conviction of an indiv…	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 01:08 PM
2	Men not marrying is denying women their retirement fund As you said, make-work. So not necessarily. Escape Velocity from Bullshit Jobs	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 01:04 PM
1	The viral trend of labeling every man who finds younger women attractive as predatory has gotten wildly out of control It's literally normal. You likely mean acting on that attraction. But having it is normal.	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 12:53 PM
8	The viral trend of labeling every man who finds younger women attractive as predatory has gotten wildly out of control I just don't see why you can't date someone around your age Because women of that cohort only want to date you for resources?	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 12:45 PM
10	The viral trend of labeling every man who finds younger women attractive as predatory has gotten wildly out of control I really hope lots of them will not find a partner. That'd be great. There must be consequences for doing this to men.	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 12:43 PM
1	People “teaching” boys to “respect” women and girls. Meanwhile, the men who don't care enough for this messaging to mean anything, those who will go out and get what they want, regardless of how it makes women feel, or how many "rules" it breaks, they're living life. With women who also don't preach (or at least don't implement) those rules. This exactly. An old comment I think sums it up perfectly I feel like the actual targets for feminist ideas are not the alpha males who don't give a shit about them and do whatever they want, hurting people in…	/r/MensRights	05/05/23 12:25 AM
2	If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the most Yes. See this comment I feel like the actual targets for feminist ideas are not the alpha males who don't give a shit about them and do whatever they want, hurting people in the process. They don't change because they stand up for themselves and others stand up for them. Who these ideas get applied to are the people who don't stand up for themselves and whom nobody likes anyway. As such these ideas that are nominally for equality are actually just used to bully the people who were going to be bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 10:11 PM
6	Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to being respected by peers and attracting women https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ I had a patient, let’s call him ‘Henry’ for reasons that are to become clear, who came to hospital after being picked up for police for beating up his fifth wife. So I asked the obvious question: “What happened to your first four wives?” “Oh,” said the patient, “Domestic violence issues. Two of them left me. One of them I got put in jail, and she’d moved on once I got out. One I just grew tired of.” “You’ve beaten up all five of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:54 PM
–	CMV: Most men would be content with women at least acknowledging how atrocious dating has become for males, rather than gaslighting them and insisting it was invariably something they were doing wrong or that it was their “personality.” Yes, kinda. https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ I do not think men should be entitled to sex, I do not think women should be “blamed” for men not having sex, I do not think anyone owes sex to anyone else, I do not think women are idiots who don’t know what’s good for them, I do not think anybody has the right to take it into their own hands to “correct” this unsettling trend singlehandedly. But when you deny everything and abuse anyone who brings it up, you cede t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 08:59 PM
1	If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defects especially as things become more equal As things become economically equal, unattractive men lose any possible leverage. Combine that with women being almost universally bisexual... Things are not "becoming more equal" otherwise. https://erikhoel.substack.com/p/futurists-have-their-heads-in-the A near majority of children will be being raised in single-parent homes by 2050. For those who think this number is too high, this rate has been climbing consistently, especially in the EU and countries l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 08:04 PM
3	If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defects 80% women reproduce. 40% men. At least, that was the case in the past. It went up for men for a brief moment where monogamy was a thing. Now it's probably nosediving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 07:56 PM
–	Is Western society going to become more attractive in the next 100 years due to women having more choice than ever before? So I suppose you're saying that what makes for great genetics = just being attractive. Yeah, the phrase "good genes" is a bit on the nose. We just switched from natural selection to sexual selection by women. So "good genes" are synonymous with woman's whims. link Since the dawn of agriculture at least—female historians of both sexes tell us—we have been living in Men’s world, where women were brutally subjugated by men. Women’s liberation is the total reversal of this, a vengeful subjugation of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 02:23 AM
0	I believe that women have it easier than men in many ways Those all cost probably A LOT more than you are thinking and have negative impacts on us as well. Fixing short height costs $100-$200K. What even compares?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 01:12 AM
1	CMV Women rating 80% of men as unattractive just proves women find different things attractive there are so many other issues at play in all aspects of life ("all else" is never equal). That's true. It's an disadvantage; it might be balanced with some advantage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 12:51 AM
1	I believe that women have it easier than men in many ways I think outliers exist but on average men have it easier than women past 30. Easier with whom? Age-matched people? That's not exactly helpful, given men's age preferences are constant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 11:51 PM
1	I believe that women have it easier than men in many ways Well, maybe not on OF specifically(?) But see Maximizing Your Slut Impact: An Overly Analytical Guide to Camgirling Through it'll be over soon, thanks to AI art tech rapidly improving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 11:46 PM
7	CMV Women rating 80% of men as unattractive just proves women find different things attractive I can't imagine what the provenance of this belief is. Reality The human brain uses height as one factor to measure social status and fitness. Studies have observed that infants as young as 10 months old unconsciously associate height with leadership potential, power, strength and intelligence. Both the cognitive and the unconscious heuristic association between height and the mentioned traits has also been found to be stronger when assessing men than women. [Study] showed that height is strongl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 09:40 PM
1	Men are better divided into three groups, not two src I do think there are a lot of really kind, decent, shy, nerdy men who can't find anyone who will love them because they radiate submissiveness and non-assertiveness, and women don't find this attractive. Most women do find dominant, high-testosterone people attractive (...) There are also a lot of really kind, decent, shy, nerdy women who can't find anyone who will love them because they're not very pretty. Men can't be blamed for liking people they find attractive either, but this is also s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:57 AM
–	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread ZeroHPLovecraft put it nicely here. Or, on second thought, it is slightly different concept, but since I quoted it already... Isomorphic to the male gaze is a faculty of women which has no name. We scrutinize and measure (with our eyes) every inch of a woman’s body. She feels this is indecent. But she applies at least as much energy to the quantification of a man, only she calls it his “character” We are told that the male evaluation of the woman is “objectification” and it is wrong, and yet we …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:07 AM
3	Men are being gaslit into thinking they are misogynists and it’s destroying their mental health I sometimes think that Empathy and Shame are two sides of the same coin. We evolved them to control large groups of people without violence. So if you have a strong sense of empathy (caring about others) you will normally have a strong sense of Shame (caring what others feel about you). I remind my self that the reason being judged hurts me so bad is because I have empathy. Sociopaths don't care about being misogynistic. Neither do narcissists. We are suffering the side effects of being human an…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/04/23 11:38 PM
1	The high standards men have to meet in dating is detrimental to their mental health There is no such thing as emancipation. Living in society is submitting to social control. Living away from society is submitting to nature's control. Nature is a harsher master than society. That an obligation is joyous does not mitigate its imposition upon you. Friendship is a form of obligation, as is love, as is employment, as is participation in a hobby. Failing to uphold an obligation degrades a social bond. Continued renegation will dissolve one. A person who is controlled is not free, a …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/04/23 09:35 PM
–	The two steps to flipping the power dynamic in dating But it would be nice to drop a lot of weight all at once like that. Get yourself Tirzepatide. Process of losing weight will take some time, but it's not very unpleasent, and requires no willpower.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 01:52 AM
–	The two steps to flipping the power dynamic in dating say that we as a species recognize (in the same way that too many rats in one cage will curtail their reproduction) that the resources we need are dwindling, so the collective subconscious (itself an evolutionary adaption) is adapting to select only the finest specimens for reproduction. That's group selection. This usually isn't what happens in evolution. These are explicit political beliefs that we are, for some people, which might have some modest effect. It's not adaptive tho. Quite the oppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 01:41 AM
1	Do men actually have it better dating wise ? Oh we've got an expert!! Not really, I just try to avoid making things up. Link Psychopathy consists of callousness, a lack of empathy, and antisocial, erratic behaviour (Hare, 2003). Men show higher levels of sub-clinical psychopathy than women (Lee & Ashton, 2005). Reise and Wright (1996) propose that psychopathic traits (lack of morality; interpersonal hostility) are beneficial to a short-term strategy and are correlated with unrestricted pattern of sexual behaviour. Psychopathy is further as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 09:22 AM
1	Do men actually have it better dating wise ? Whether a psychopath or extremely ugly No, psychopathy helps. The vast majority of men do get in eventually and once in it's a much better experience imo About 50% of men under 30 are single in my country. 20% women, in comparison. "Vast majority" - no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 02:00 AM
1	For most men, self-improvement has diminishing returns on their SMV because they’re still competing with the top percentile of men. Losing weight: takes 2-5 years: you're already at the top 30% of the population. More like few months, on GLP-1 analogues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 01:07 AM
1	Are men seen as expendable? Heh, leader of a far-right party in Poland recently said this in an interview Politician: 60% of men under 39 support us. Poles, young Poles want change at last. They don't want this 'PO-PIS', they don't want this system. Journalist: Are you a party of males? Politician: More men vote for us than women. Journalist: Why is it the way you think it is like that? Politician: There are many reasons; probably men are more.... hard to say. Journalist: Right. Politician: The reasons are certainly many J…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 12:46 AM
1	Are men seen as expendable? Here's a translation of a feminist article (original in Polish language). The army is a generator and reproducer of the violence of oppression against which all social emancipation movements headed by feminism are fighting. Therefore, the half-witted expectation that women should join it willingly, with a smile on their lips and male anointment, is nonsense. While we demand recognition and equal rights, we don't want an equal share of the harms produced by patriarchy. We want those harms to be n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 12:36 AM
1	If women are the ones who control the dating market, wouldn’t it make sense for men to lower their standards instead? The new system values intelligence. There’s some issues still, but generally men aren’t liable to be getting killed nowadays, and women can work and provide for themselves. Both sexes are pretty equal in regards to intelligence. Nope. http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php students with IQs above 100 and below 70 were significantly less likely to have had intercourse than those in between. Also like the other study, they found teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 11:55 PM
3	Are men genuinely worse potential partners these days? If every man was successful, would these problems still persist due to hypergamy? And clearly lacking empathy too. Lol yes, men lack empathy, sure while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 11:39 PM
1	Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating? About that salesman analogy... "But my intentions are good!" "I believe you. But you're a spa—a salesbot. Your entire psychology has been designed around what's known to maximize sales. Incidentally—as I'm sure you're aware—that's why mail servers are configured to silently drop spam messages, rather than bouncing them back to the sender: they don't want you to be able to learn anything about their filtering criteria from experience." "They don't want spammers to be able to learn from experience…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 10:53 PM
2	CMV: The absence of celibate life paths kind of sucks. People might bemoan the rise in sexlessness, but I think this is actually a return to a very old Northwestern European pattern where five to ten percent of people never had relationships...even if they reached old age. 1) it's not 5-10% of people 2) it's not gender equal. Unclear why being born male has to equal a huge chance of suffering. When things were unequal for women, society was adjusted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 10:33 PM
3	AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships? Yep. God-Shaped Hole “The first time I visited a dildotec, I was full of trepidation, but what I have learned is that the bots are here for me, and yet they still have a personality and a will of their own, so even though it’s my choice, it’s their choice, too. I feel like if you get used to your partner just slavishly obeying you, then that can become your model for how you treat real people, and that feels gross. But the bots at Radiant Heart aren’t like that at all; there’s something about th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 10:00 PM
1	AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships? careful about that	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 09:16 PM
2	90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypes who declined to participate in social activities in their youth lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 09:00 PM
1	90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypes It’s not necessarily manly traits they think you should have, they’re nearly always scanning for ease, presence, how they add to the vibe etc They're scanning for conformity with the group. On the other hand, restricted/repetitive interests probably read as something like conformism to NTs. From this book: I will now give my own working definition of autism, which begins with the root of it and explains the way it develops in terms of the roots: The root difference is that the autistic person de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 08:52 PM
2	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? Aren't they right to not have kids if they haven't found the right partner? Yes, they are right about that. Did I suggest otherwise? Problem is them not finding the right partner, not that they don't have kids being single. I don't think misogyny is the reason they're not finding partners. To be clear, individuals aren't responsible for these problems, regardless of gender. It's structural.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 10:08 PM
1	Studies saying women are "happier single" than men are extremely misleading I'm amused they're not hiding that they treat violence against women as a more serious thing than violence against men. True, one should probably be sad about it instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 06:42 PM
9	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? Nah, this explanation doesn't make much sense. People are, at worst, slightly less rich than in some past decades. See Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate Lack of childcare, unequal parental leave and career penalties for mothers. Not so – or not primarily. In our fecund recent past, remember, career penalties for mothers were even higher. Mothers still suffer a career penalty almost everywhere, but attempting to remove it doesn’t seem to alter …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 04:54 PM
9	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? It's not just because they have leverage. They also have gender ingroup bias. And worse, men also are biased in favor of women. It's not out of pure self-interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 04:46 PM
13	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? As this comment says If this were a societal problem that affected women, we'd have no end of PSAs, funding, sociological studies to see what the root cause is, mass shaming tactics, etc. Just look at how the wage gap was treated. Nobody owes women a high paying, white collar job. Yet, that didn't stop the entirety of feminism going on a rampage to change society to favor women at every step of the process to compensate for women's shitty choices. And now that the wage gap has swung in favor of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 04:44 PM
1	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? I’m talking technology that is still probably decades away but is certainly coming. Not decades. I mean, we basically solved the largest problem - conversational AI - over the last 2 years. It's 90% there. Really, it's robotics (or alternatively, haptics) that are the current bottleneck. Btw, there's a good fic about sexbots - partially hard sci-fi (author definitively knows what he's talking about regarding machine learning), partially cosmic horror. God-Shaped Hole Some quotes: does the word ‘…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 04:06 PM
11	If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society? have kids just like always They already kinda don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 04:04 PM
1	Studies saying women are "happier single" than men are extremely misleading women are more likely to be killed or beaten by a spouse or domestic partner than anyone else. Killed yes, but beatings are symmetrical. This Wiki page is pretty wild It is notable that when Erin Pizzey, founder of the world's first women's refuge; in Chiswick, UK, reported her data showing that men are abused by women almost to the same extent as vice-versa, she received death threats from feminists The lines of the debate tend to fall between two basic polemics. The first of these argues that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 02:43 PM
3	Studies saying women are "happier single" than men are extremely misleading could be used to help one another suffer less. It won't. Male suffering is not seen as an issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 02:17 PM
5	A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a result If you had sisters, would her experiences/challenges be more like your upbringing or the girls that you describe? I have a 6 year younger sister (I'm 26). What he described is almost exactly what I feel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 12:41 PM
8	A lot of the toxicity around pill spheres has to do with missing out on young love and stunted social development as a result Like, take the example of one of these gals I'm dating. She's fucking 22. Yeah she's kinda pretty but she doesn't have that much going on for her besides looks. Yet she has the privilege to date a solid good looking grown ass man like me who's well off, pays for her dates, let her stay at his place to do whatever she wants, take her on vacations here and there, and on top of that she doesn't have to be exclusive and can go out and have fun with other dudes (which she definetly does, we are not e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 12:37 PM
0	CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please women are only able to get that casual sex because men say yes to her. This results from biology. The thing is, innate differences somehow aren't an excuse when it's women who are disadvantaged. But men? Nothing should be done!	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 12:16 PM
0	Why are women so blunt with rejecting shorter guys but with average guys there nicer about it? but I cant understand why people will treat you like shit for smth out of your control. Bullying is rewarding. And height is one of the main factors determining your position in the social status hierarchy. That predates humans as a species, really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 12:04 PM
2	Why are women so blunt with rejecting shorter guys but with average guys there nicer about it? Women's true nature is displayed when there is no physical threat... they are also very mean to each other Yep. Women As Worriers Who Exclude Strategy 1 is that a woman does not ever let anyone else know that she is competing with them. … She preaches the mantra of equality for all, and sincerely believes it. …Unaware of her own competitive instincts, she tries to get as much as she can for herself, while insisting that everyone else share equally. If strategy 1 is not working out well enough, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/23 12:02 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? Restricting the right to vote, preventing women from holding office, etc. Did it actually happen that way through - as an explicit restriction? I admit I'm hazy on the details here, but my impression was that suffrage just expanded gradually. Men were first, as I guess the public representatives of the household? It might've not been seen as discrimination, at least until some point. Also, it happened pretty fast in general - decades after men suffrage. See the table here.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	02/04/23 11:00 AM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? It doesn't require magical powers. For a realistic scenario, see a fic It Looks Like You’re Trying To Take Over The World. It might help to imagine a hard take⁣off sce⁣nario using solely known sorts of NN & scal⁣ing ef⁣fects… Below is a story which may help stretch your imagi⁣na⁣tion and defa⁣mil⁣iar⁣ize the 2022 state of machine learn⁣ing. Excerpts below are up to a point where rogue, AI is basically impossible to shut down anymore. You don’t want to train on stale or static websites, do you? W…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/03/23 09:38 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? And here one can read what Dennis Hassabis, head of DeepMind (Google) hopes for. So I think that the progress so far has been pretty phenomenal. I think that [AGI] it's coming relatively soon in the next you know–I wouldn't be super surprised–in the next decade or two. (...) I always imagine that as we got closer to the sort of gray zone that you were talking about earlier, the best thing to do might be to pause the pushing of the performance of these systems so that you can analyze down to minu…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/03/23 12:47 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? I genuinely don't understand why people are so terrified of AI, in comparison. (...) concerns are most likely informed by taking stories like Terminator too literally. They're really not. We do not know how to align AI with humanity. If superintelligent AI is not aligned with humanity, it most likely removes us - as potential danger. Even if it doesn't, it kills us eventually because if it doesn't value us then we're just raw resources. "The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you ar…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/03/23 12:47 PM
2	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? raising awareness doesn't necessarily lead to change. At all. Heh. From Every Bay Area House Party “I’m Bob, good to meet you. Who do you work for?” “You know ViraCoin?” “No, tell me about them.” “New crypto. You mine it by promoting about it. Once every eight minutes, a decentralized algorithm searches for tweets containing the word ‘ViraCoin’ with a positive sentiment score, weights them by number of likes, and then picks one at random to award a ViraCoin to.” “Sounds…awful.” “No, you don’t un…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:55 PM
2	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? Same. When I was maybe 12, I decided to just skip relationships. I felt overwhelmed with other stuff already, so I kinda rationalized that I don't want it anyway. Also went to nearly-all-male (because of STEM profile) high school. I somehow didn't update on that belief until recently (I'm 26). I guess if I wasn't in an environment nearly devoid of attractive women... well, realistically I'd fail anyway, and IDK if I'd survive that.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:48 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? Aphantasia maybe? People without it think it's really weird it's possible that someone can't visualize things. People with it think the opposite. That's why it took a long time before we knew it's a thing. I remember... maybe in the kindergarden... kids were told to close their eyes and imagine sth. I thought it's just a weird way kids are treated. That kids are supposed to pretend they're visualizing things or something. See also: Generalizing from one example The debate was resolved by Francis…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:27 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? From The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth: prices of various things, including higher education over time and male wages, grouped by education, over time	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:17 PM
4	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? Like it's a matter of life and death for civilization that we address environmental issues right now Not quite. Climate change is not an existential risk. See Misinformation isn't just on the right “Don’t Look Up” was marketed as a climate change allegory, and it’s very explicitly about a genuine extinction-level threat with a specific near-term tipping point. If you conceptualize climate change as having those features, then the behavior of major world governments with regard to climate seems b…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:13 PM
1	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? This is the same thing as happened with utopian marxism, except it wasn't against patriarchy but against capitalism, and the winners would be the working class. It's conflict vs mistake views on politics. Some excerpts: Mistake theorists treat politics as science, engineering, or medicine. The State is diseased. We’re all doctors, standing around arguing over the best diagnosis and cure. Some of us have good ideas, others have bad ideas that wouldn’t help, or that would cause too many side effec…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 10:01 PM
5	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? If you show down their throats that they oppress their female classmates, teachers, sisters and mothers because of being men, particularly straight men, they understandably won't want anything to do with your movement, since it makes them feel bad about themselves without any fault of their own. Or they end up like this Here’s the thing: I spent my formative years—basically, from the age of 12 until my mid-20s—feeling not “entitled,” not “privileged,” but terrified. I was terrified that one of m…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 09:47 PM
3	Why are feminists shocked when young boys turn to altright role models? Men and women, as aggregates, are not friends. We care about our kind first and foremost and will do what is necessary to advance our cause, even if it hurts the other side. Completely wrong. Women care about their own kind first and foremost. Men... also care about women foremost. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect Rudman and Goodwin conducted research on gender bias that measured gender preferences without directly asking the participants. Subjects at Purdue and Rutgers p…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 09:35 PM
1	The reason that misandrists are fighting so hard is because the men’s equality movement is winning I mean, it's obvious. But don't expect it to change much. Even if you removed discrimination of men in various areas, we'll still be disposable, 'experimental' gender, just because of biology.* Being born male you have a high chance of not finding an opposite sex partner. Which is highly dysphoric, obviously. It doesn't work that way for the other side, at any comparable scale. It never did. AFAIK 80% of women who lived, reproduced. For men it's 40%. They don't consider it as a valid inequality …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 09:07 PM
20	The rise of Andrew Tate is due to a lot of men seeing women only chase successful men and(To Tate fans) he shows a definitive path to becoming those men… Uh... regular men have sex, relationships and get married all the fricking time. Unless you're talking about showing "regular guys" smashing supermodels every other day. Half of men under 30 in my country are single. 20% women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 08:35 PM
1	Mating Gap -it is men's fault obviously Hypergamy. Women refuse to pair with lower-achieving men much more than men refuse to pair with higher-achieving women. I'm not sure if it's about being educated necessarily. Intelligent men (yeah, not the same as educated, but...) do worse than stupid ones. src In high-schoolers, each extra IQ point increases chance of virginity by 2.7% for males and 1.7% by females. 87% of 19-year old US college students have had sex, yet only 65% of MIT graduate students have had sex. There's conflicting rese…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 07:08 PM
5	Mating Gap -it is men's fault obviously I am very interested (well, desperate really) to see this sort of activism sweeping into the fields of "hard" sciences (which it already has begun) Not quite about science, but... Did you read [Damore's lawsuit](https://felleisen.org/matthias/Articles/damore-suit.pdf? Old stuff, but I read it just recently - and I was really surprised it's that bad at Google. Sample, continued, 3, 4, 5 Edit: also this, woman telling men to stop discussing possibility of false accusations of sexual harassment,	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 06:38 PM
4	Mating Gap -it is men's fault obviously It seems to me that "the mating gap" is in essence simply claiming that in the aggreagate, men are inferior as partners. Women seem to claim this rather openly on /r/PurplePillDebate It really seems true that they delusionally chase around men more attractive then them, expecting they'll commit to them eventually.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/03/23 05:46 PM
1	Fresh and Fit are rape advocates that in turn damage young men creating more rapist or men insensitive to rape. Same with 4x rate male suicides. I'm really seeing that big push from women to create programs to help these men. Rookie numbers, in Poland we're at ~7x lol. I've never heard it mentioned in mass media tho. Instead they mention a lot suicide attempts of teenage girls caused by 'beauty standards'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 02:46 PM
1	Fresh and Fit are rape advocates that in turn damage young men creating more rapist or men insensitive to rape. Well, same could be said the other way around. Not really, when men do care they are supposedly the worst kind, 'nice guys'. From comment here Ellie is amazing. I taught her to program in C# in a few weeks, we share all the same stupid theater memes, we have so much fun together… But the conversation always turns to her emotionally abusive boyfriend, who also Does Not Like Her Hanging Out With Me. She doesn’t want to leave him because “she needs the stability of someone in her life.” “You know, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 02:36 PM
2	Fresh and Fit are rape advocates that in turn damage young men creating more rapist or men insensitive to rape. There is no rape culture and if we were to imagine there was, women who complain publicly but don't advocate preventative actions or responsibility are the main facilitators of it. Yep; https://ymeskhout.substack.com/p/what-exactly-is-rape-culture 160,000 inmates (or 12% of all inmates) are sitting in state prisons across this country as a result of a rape or sexual assault conviction. Descending more towards a personal view, by far the saddest clients I ever get as a public defender are the one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 02:23 PM
1	Newbie Question: Why does it seem that Girl's "party phase" is actually from 18 to 24 maximum? The Manosphere groups makes it seem like its 18-30 but Experience has taught me otherwise. I guess I ask to people in general, what do you want people to do? Wait patiently to meet you? Hope and pray that you come along. Not live? Structure society so that it's not as easy to get excluded. Destigmatize sex work - if we're living in a world where 'normal' people do casual sex, negativity on that hurts these excluded selectively. It's rather fucked up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 08:15 PM
1	The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked. It's not as simple as some people ("elite") causing things deliberately. See: Meditations On Moloch	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 08:09 PM
3	The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked. It's not just lack of knowledge. Some people refuse to accept the arguments which would cause them to not be able to be enraged and blaming some outgroup based on a series of 'news' about crimes of people who are in that outgroup. Ok that sentence got rather tangled, I mean this: CARDIOLOGISTS AND CHINESE ROBBERS It takes a special sort of person to be a cardiologist. This is not always a good thing. You may have read about one or another of the “cardiologist caught falsifying test results and p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 08:07 PM
2	Newbie Question: Why does it seem that Girl's "party phase" is actually from 18 to 24 maximum? The Manosphere groups makes it seem like its 18-30 but Experience has taught me otherwise. The view that there is a dominance hierarchy among humans consisting of "alpha males" and "beta males" is sometimes reported in the mainstream media. The term alpha male is often applied to any dominating man, especially bullies,[10] despite the fact that dominating behaviour is rarely seen as a positive trait for either an ideal date or a romantic partner Yeah, Wikipedia is not always perfectly accurate. I mean, really. Dominating behavior is not seen as a positive trait? Sure, maybe by stated …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 07:34 PM
1	Newbie Question: Why does it seem that Girl's "party phase" is actually from 18 to 24 maximum? The Manosphere groups makes it seem like its 18-30 but Experience has taught me otherwise. the world used to be a perfect place. Oh lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 07:31 PM
1	The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked. constantly giving everyone the worst news, We can't blame anyone in particular for this. It's just how humans act. Humans share "angry" news more than "happy" news. It's not fault of the people in the media (tho they are bad), it's not about technology either (it just facilitated communication between everyone; which we presumably don't want to roll back). It's about discoordination. The Toxoplasma Of Rage. Quote from the end of that: There is no National Conversation Topic Czar. The rise of som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 07:19 PM
1	The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked. That's not how the world works for men. You don't just go off in a corner and 'work on yourself' and magically find somebody. For men, dating women requires an active role, not just sitting around waiting to be approached as women do. So no, you can't just opt out of the grind if you want to have any chances with women. That's reality for men. Also, women consider some indirect behavior to be akin to initiating. Fails catastrophically if a male is an aspie. I'm an average-looking girl, maybe a l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 06:47 PM
3	Fresh and Fit are rape advocates that in turn damage young men creating more rapist or men insensitive to rape. How far have we fallen that youtube will allow Oh noes, how can we have so little censorship :( In the second link, I saw you commenting I believe these guys are rapist or at least support rapist themselves Don't you think it's a little fucked up to say "I believe X is a rapist" when you have literally no evidence of that besides, what, intuition?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 01:56 PM
1	What are women even expected to do during the courting phase? the question is, What will move us off the old animal assumptions? Sex bots will probably change some things. There's a good sci-fi/horror story, God-Shaped Hole. Through I guess machine learning details are probably lost on most people. Some quotes: As I [was] looking for a (β)partner to act as your soul, I remember thinking, in my naive way, about the fungibility of all people. When a man looks for a partner in Pygmalion, what is it that he seeks? Reality is slippery and images are treacherous…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 10:21 AM
5	Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single? src The research on this topic is split into "completely useless" and "mostly useless". In the former category we have studies that, with a straight face, purport to show that women like nice guys by asking women to self-report on their preferences. To illuminate just how silly this is, consider the mirror case of asking men "So, do you like witty charming girls with good personalities, or supermodels with big breasts?" When this was actually done, men rated "physical attractiveness" only their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:34 AM
5	Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single? Autistic men do turn out to be much less likely to find partners. Autistic women do not. Yeah it's still involuntary. But it's not rejection at this point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:27 AM
7	Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single? When it's brought up, it is met with extreme hostility. Here's a description of one of such occasions. Comment quoted below was made by a computer science professor, about his experiences during adolescence. He's actually married now, so it wasn't complaining about lack of partner. Yet it got deranged responses from some feminists. I check Feministing, and even radfem blogs like “I Blame the Patriarchy.” And yes, I’ve read many studies and task force reports about gender bias, and about the “pri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:10 AM
1	Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single? a) I'm an 26 years old aspie. I didn't really realize that until very recently. As a child, I remember thinking that I'm not perceiving something. Missing knowledge others have about how to interact with people. I mostly can't do smalltalk. I just don't know what to say. I do not look people in the eyes, because it's too intense. Then there's anxiety, mostly about interacting with strangers. It thankfully improved over time - in childhood, I frequently worried I won't be able to function as an a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 11:17 PM
4	Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces? To levy this as a criticism of the system you're opposing, you should first make sure that same criticism can't be applied to the system you're supporting. This one wasn't against communism, it was about "real capitalism was not tried". In theory, its role is resource allocation, but it fails at that role pretty extensively I mean, alternatives to capitalism all somehow boiled down to authoritarians allocating resources how they wanted, and somehow that wasn't very optimal. Capitalism fails exte…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/03/23 08:30 PM
3	Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces? this makes about as much sense as the people who claim "real communism was never tried" Yeah. If the "real" system can't actually be implemented because it inevitably gets corrupt or sth - it's just a fantasy. That reminded me of this (...) the discussion of Marx’s (lack of) description of how to run a communist state. I’d always heard that Marx was long on condemnations of capitalism and short on blueprints for communism, and the couple of Marx’s works I read in college confirmed he really didn…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/03/23 07:41 PM
2	Gender dysphoria made me understand how important masculinity is to most men I think gender norms are interesting insofar as the idea of influencing men to be more feminine is valorized but there is a limit. It's not that there's a limit; it's a contradiction really given that women in general are attracted to masculinity. What did feminists do to change that? (not that it's really possible, but if they're complaining about nature of men, they might as well do the same for women). I think this, 8 year old comment, is pretty good. (I edited "are" to "aren't" in the first …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/03/23 05:50 PM
3	Why is it so hard to discuss men's issues in left spaces? What is capitalism? No, seriously. If you were to change the world in some way, how exactly would you do so to solve this? Criticism of "capitalism" is kinda annoying, because it's like criticizing air. Somehow people never think to provide alternatives.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/03/23 11:06 AM
3	A Contradiction in Rhetoric Regarding Men's Suicide You can only change the rates of a complex behavior such as suicide, violence, styles, opinions, at an individual level, or through society-- the culture. So it's pretty hopeless. Social engineering has a dismal track record. Src See, my terrible lecture on ADHD suggested several reasons for the increasing prevalence of the disease. Of these I remember two: the spiritual desert of modern adolescence, and insufficient iron in the diet. And I remember thinking “Man, I hope it’s the iron one, becau…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/23 10:17 AM
1	A Contradiction in Rhetoric Regarding Men's Suicide Therapy absolutely does work for men. Therapy mostly doesn't work for anyone. Scientific Freud Also, same author: Men Will Literally Have Completely Different Mental Processes Instead Of Going To Therapy	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/23 09:58 AM
1	«It's not enough that men's lives are ruined» draft Damn that reminded me of this article, "Feminists! Where are you, when the motherland calls for reservists?", written by a feminist in Poland, when there was a controversy with some civilians apparently being ordered to take part in military exercises. Quoting just a bit (full translation, plus some other stuff, is in the comment I linked to) in the linked comment "Where are the feminist organizations when men get drafted into the army?" the graduates of the University of Peasant Reason as…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/03/23 12:06 AM
1	«It's not enough that men's lives are ruined» She mentioned that she had had similar discussions on this issue with her boyfriend and he agreed one hundred percent with her opinion on things. I obviously have seen more than my fair share of men throwing others under the bus in far worse ways, but it bothers me that there is another guy out there comiserating with his girlfriend over how men being falsely imprisoned or accused is a desirable outcome. See this discussion. Part of Scott's comment: the main reason other people were unwilling to…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 11:09 PM
1	I can't be the only one? If that were the case, you could 'reject' religious groups (by focusing on each individual's beliefs)	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 10:30 PM
2	I can't be the only one? You are referring to neuroatypical difficulties in parsing speech/social norms in woke spaces? Yes. The Neurodiversity Case for Free Speech Campus speech codes may have been well-intentioned at first. They tried to make universities more welcoming to racial and sexual minorities by forcing everyone to speak as inoffensively as possible. But a side-effect of trying to increase demographic diversity was to reduce neurodiversity, by stigmatizing anyone whose brain can’t color inside the lines of ‘a…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 10:03 PM
4	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? Doesn't 1 single man ~= 1 single woman? Not if you allow polygamy. Also, older men. In Poland... 18-30 age bracket, men on the left side, women on the right side. Blue=singles, orange=relationship, gray=marriage. 47% young men are single, compared to 20% of young women.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 09:37 PM
1	I can't be the only one? You are either the type of person that values diversity or the type of person that values conformity. Valuing one kind of diversity might well be in conflict with valuing another sort of diversity. Woke speech codes, made to 'protect' minorities disproportionally affect neurodiverse people, for example.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 03:14 PM
2	I can't be the only one? They still have a conception of an in-group and an out-group, just like the right wing Ingroup/outgroup applies to all groups. Not right-wing specifically. From the Wiki: an in-group is a social group to which a person psychologically identifies as being a member. By contrast, an out-group is a social group with which an individual does not identify. Left-wing outgroup is right-wing. Link The Emperor summons before him Bodhidharma and asks: “Master, I have been tolerant of innumerable gays, lesb…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:38 PM
0	"Girls get extra school help while boys get Ritalin" from 2003 The elephant in the room is that everyone ‘does better’ on amphetamines. Yep, that's why everyone should be free to use it (or not). There is a serious risk of pathologising regular human experiences I hate this model where we can't change/enhance things - only if there's perceived deficiency, things like drugs are allowed. See this cost-benefit analysis of Modafinil. Is it wrong? Why isn't Modafinil OTC? comes at the expense of addressing why there is a deficiency in the first place. Which does…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:28 PM
1	"Girls get extra school help while boys get Ritalin" from 2003 Eh, I'd take Ritalin frankly.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:26 PM
5	The Great Misunderstanding of Intersectionality Yet, the staunchest, and most numerous defenders of intersectionality are white men and women in academia. Yep. Identitarians are ironically undiverse.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:07 PM
3	The Great Misunderstanding of Intersectionality The basic idea of intersectionality is not that complicated and is, in my opinion, pretty compelling: Nah, it's just bad. If you take intersectionalism to its logical conclusion, you arrive at individualism again. No need to go into collectivist nightmare ideologies. Also, it has stupidly mangles priorities. Neurodivergence matters a whole lot more than race or ethincity, yet it's mostly ignored by the left.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:04 PM
6	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? Yes, because men are given hyperagency. It's claimed that men have hyperagency. I disagree, there are definitely men who know what they're doing. Alternatively, they have attractive traits by default.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 02:01 PM
25	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? All this until boys start dying, that's when ppl snap out of their delusional mythologizing. What? Men keep dying, and there's no reaction. M:F suicide ratios are crazy. US isn't even that bad - in Poland it's 7 to 1. And whenever media start talking about depression / suicide - narrative is now always concern about girls mental health problems caused by Instagram. Like, this just keeps repeating.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 01:58 PM
34	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? a woman is single at 30 and complains that there are no good men At this point, New York Times claims the same thing. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/15/opinion/fertility-decline.html “In several industrialized countries, childlessness is now more common among men than it is among women.” For example, “in the period between 2006 and 2010, one in four men in the United States was childless at age 40, compared to around one in seven women.” In Finland, he writes, the problem is even more acute: “O…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 01:47 PM
7	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? I wonder what would it take to mainstream this info. I mean, implicit bias is not going to disappear—but it should be fairly obvious what are the implications. At this point, if society wouldn't change course, at least the situation would be clear.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 01:39 PM
26	Why does The Left Keep Missing This About The Male Loneliness Problem? they can't go five minutes without accusing you of only wanting sex, and they keep acting like if you're lonely it's your fault because you're consciously or unconsciously a bad person. It's Just World Fallacy, maybe. Very good comment I do think there are a lot of really kind, decent, shy, nerdy men who can't find anyone who will love them because they radiate submissiveness and non-assertiveness, and women don't find this attractive. Most women do find dominant, high-testosterone people attrac…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/03/23 01:30 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. I didn't say it's worth doing. It's obviously not - unilaterally. But if unattractive men actually unionized, and if there's enough of them - say, 30-40% of men.... The thing is, it won't happen. But if it did, and if they decided to 'strike' - the consequences would be rather huge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 01:43 AM
2	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Not quite, /u/tvear seems to apply it selectively against autists (I wonder if the hate extends to other NDs?). Because "productivity" apparently isn't rewarded, so the world isn't just. I felt like quoting a certain fanfic... Drowned, disfigured, trashed. Made to make the walk of shame in front of the world, their names forever synonymous with their respective sins. He had to know they would never live normal lives after that. Lives at all. They were bad and they got punished for it. Hence. Peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 10:05 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. There's not much to buy really. Conspicuous consumption is likely to be a chore rather than any pleasure for a guy who "hasn't held a woman's hand".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:50 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Do you know what "productivity" means? Because it's been increasing for decades while wages have stagnated. The people creating the value aren't getting rewarded for it. Let me guess, you think Elon Musk personally invented the electric car don't you? ...because it didn't increase due to actions of some low-level workers? As /u/MegaGigaTeraBased said, wealth went (to some extent) towards these who innovated. To a large extent to rentiers unfortunately, but that's how it goes. You know, salaries …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:48 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. As it should be unless you want to live an a society of autistic losers. You should maybe stop using our stuff, then. Also LMAO at "actual productivity isn't rewarded". Plz compare capitalism with sth else, then - which does better at rewarding productivity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:41 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Now girls they're selecting against IQ, in favor of testosterone apparently (see my other comment here).	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:26 PM
2	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Just imagine the lost iq points from letting women have free range on mate selection while letting the higher iq women squander their fertility in the corporate world. https://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php there was a curvilinear relationship: students with IQs above 100 and below 70 were significantly less likely to have had intercourse than those in between. Also like the other study, they found teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of vir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 09:21 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Dudes gotta stop saying that men are basically evil, aggressive, violent tyrants deep down inside. Or at the very least, you can't be mad when feminists or other women say this about you too. That's your interpretation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 08:32 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Men would be way more successful if they were actually on women's side and stopped treating them as adversaries who are trying to keep the SEX away from them. That sounds awfully like Nice Guy strat. Which, uh, not only doesn't work - also gets you abuse if you complain it doesn't, in form of the implications that "you think you're entitled to sex".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 08:03 PM
2	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. No I’m exactly saying that if I was told “you can only have sex with this one woman and you can’t divorce her, please comply because this would increase societal happiness by 5%,” I would comply. This is my personal feeling and I acknowledge that not everyone feels this way so discussing “solutions” would be a nonstarter for others but isn’t a nonstarter for me. Does that make sense? Yeah, definitely not everyone. Are you actually sure about that? You know, the woman can be anyone. Even if she's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:59 PM
0	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. What would be the solution? Legally force people to continue having sex with each-other? I think forcing long-term marriage is dumb... but adding some friction/penalty to switching + actually trying to curb cheating might be a good idea. Basically, force serial monogamy. You can't get a new partner until you drop your current one. In between relationships, some cool off period where you can't partner with another. Maybe 1 to 3 months, possibly depending on length of time they stayed together. I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:47 PM
2	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Women were just stuck with men they didn't enjoy the bed with. They could also remain single. Which, after all, isn't a huge issue, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:37 PM
0	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. He's not relying on him as an authority, he just quotes him because he agrees with what was expressed by the quote. well, at least not much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:27 PM
0	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. I don’t understand why an engineer can’t be an fboy. For the same reason, nerds aren't popular. Of course, it's nothing absolute. Being sexually promiscuous is not an occupation Takes time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:18 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Even if you like an idea, others can and should analyze your sources as well for context. ...no? Death of the author. He's just not relevant here. It's a self-contained idea, really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 07:14 PM
3	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Plenty of shy guys without much experience. No one hates them. Sure thing. That's why, when they want to insult men, they reach for the term "incel". These "shy guys without much experience" live inside this culture, and they see <them> being used as an example of utter failure, to be laughed at. Sure, they're usually not hated, if they're silent. They are not respected, tho. Potentially bullying / humiliating happens. And of course, there's ~0 empathy for them. Let alone any consideration on ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 05:50 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. So the analogy in the sexual marketplace would be a bunch of average/low value men refusing to have sex...good luck? Nah, refusing to provide any and all other value they do to the rest of the society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 05:17 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. Funny thing about genetics. If you are alive today, it means that your ancestors successfully procreated since the beginning of life on earth. But sure, somehow your genes are not good enough. Doesn't matter. Yeah, we have roughly the same amounts of genetic letters - the thing is, they're scrambled. 50% you get from your father and 50% from your mother could be disastrously bad (or great) compared to their sets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 05:16 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. So what you are saying is that in a sexually liberated society, all the nerds and nice guys are finding out they are not competitive and they are struggling to adjust. Wouldn't it reason that they have to look into how to become more competitive sexually? Why should women suffer from settling for uncompetitive men? I propose somehow ensuring no wealth redistribution between attractive and unattractive people, then. Why should nerds subsidize women paired with men who are attractive but not neces…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 05:12 PM
1	The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race. completely independent of money; It can be hooked to money, tho. And probably should be. Trade is good. Lifetime monogamy model sucks about as much as limited sexual liberalism (I say limited, because it really is, at least by social attitudes towards sex with money involved). I think limiting the amount of simultaneous sexual partners could be a good idea. Tricky to define what counts as simultaneous. And to enforce. But it probably could be done. Social norms about privacy could be modified. G…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/23 04:51 PM
3	Only men can be charged with rape in England, and why it matters. Not like they need this anyway to abuse statistics. Link Spotted on Brute Reason but liked and reblogged 35,000 times: Five Things More Likely To Happen To You Than Being Accused Of Rape. A man is 631 times more likely to become an NFL player than to be falsely accused of rape! Thirty-two times more likely to be struck by lightning! Eleven times more likely to be hit by a comet! Needless to say, all of these figures are completely wrong, in fact wrong by a factor of over 22,700x. I’m not really …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/08/22 10:55 PM
3	How misandry replaced atheism in the left wing politics (the birth of 4th ave of feminism) Don't anthropomorphize AI. It doesn't mean that you can't have AI where "personhood rights" makes sense; but it's not every AI. Intelligence doesn't imply personhood. Link	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/08/22 10:03 PM
2	The demonization of sexually frustrated men The first is literally biologically impossible, Not entirely is along the same lines of demanding all women have DD breasts, which is misogynist. So why would saying men need 6 pack abs not be misandrist? TBH, no one is actually preventing men from having such standards. Regarding hypergamy: yes, the best way would be the third option: to socially engineer women to not want hypergamy anymore. And I do not see this as something bad because it would be in their own best interest and help to create…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/08/22 09:38 PM
5	The demonization of sexually frustrated men (including, critically IMO, help with improving their romantic/sexual social skills) Also legitimize plastic surgery. Possibly subsidize it even. I don't think attraction is strictly positional. If everyone looks better, there's less looks-based selectivity. Also, obesity is now directly fixable. And legalize + normalize prostitution. If sex was accessible... and it's not only about relationships. Lookism is completely dominant. And it's laughable to think society could be somehow changed to …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/08/22 09:14 PM
2	Do we do videos around here? \| The Emotional Objectification of Men I wasn't sure what to make of his constant use of the word "patriarchy" at first, but having watched the whole thing, it's clear what he means by patriarchy goes beyond the usual "patriarchy hurts men too" platitude, nor is it the "all men benefit from patriarchy" line. He's referring to traditional gender roles and how they benefit the ruling class, the "patriarchs" as he calls them, not men as a whole. A female patriarch is not an oxymoron. In fact, feminism, viz. the girlboss variety, has bec…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/08/22 08:47 PM