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pretty sure most kpop stars are good-looking guys, even at 5'7
/r/AllPillDebate22/03/23 01:40 PM
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Based!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:33 AM
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"Never do anything against your core beliefs and don't do things you dislike, even the smallest things" this x 1000
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 01:16 AM
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IDK, Charles Manson had a bunch of hotties doing pretty crazy things for him. Just sayin
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:57 PM
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So correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you are trying to get women outside of your ethnic and religious group. Also trying to find women outside your cultural group. Dude: that is a tall order for any guy, I don't care what color you are. If I went to Egypt tomorrow to find a girlfriend, it would be seriously challenging as a white, nominally Christian, guy. Instead of focusing on all your problems (limited funds, big-nose, whatever) start trying to come up with solutions: Keep lifting,…
/r/AllPillDebate16/02/23 03:57 PM
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wait, slow down bro What race are you exactly? I wasn't aware that one race had a low SMV on average. And what religious group is held in contempt by women? Islam? I can show you exceptions to that idea as for the nose: I busted mine boxing as a kid like 4 times. Had surgery to fix. Still fucked up and I breathe through my mouth all night. Never interfered with my dating life Low-income single-parent household sucks, but I know a dude who came from that background who has slept with 100+ women (…
/r/AllPillDebate16/02/23 01:39 AM
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Some ideas: Join a co-ed volleyball or softball league. A lot of big cities have these. Go to cultural events like gallery openings, museum fund-raisers, etc. Women at such events are much more open to have pleasant conversations with like-minded individuals Check to see if there are any boardgaming groups in your area. These sometimes have single women in them Church events (although this is very touch-and-go) Private house parties your friends throw Dance classes at the university or clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 06:06 PM
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Well much of this depends on culture and the values of the community. Muslims are a diverse lot of people --a Muslim in Algeria is very different from one in Saudi Arabia or Turkey. And then you have the whole Sunni vs. Shia thing ... but I do agree that western, Christian countries have become gynocentric, or even matriarchal. Muslims view family and marriage differently --it isn't typically about intense, romantic, idealistic love. It is more about the practical matters of finding a reliable m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:38 PM
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this 100% --I know because my kids are suffering from this. When I was a teenager, I had friends from school, we would hang out, etc. --now every parent is hyper-protective, kids don't leave the house, everyone lives online, and there is no social life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:25 AM
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not about defense, it is about support I wouldn't let anyone, male or female, insult or degrade my wife or GF in front of me. Doesn't mean I will fly off the handle and get crazy, but I will countersignal and push back If my girl makes a point, and I support it, I won't let some dbag put her down in front of me. And she should offer up the same support --this isn't about fragile egos
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:12 AM
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It is more than simply sticking up for you --it is having your back. You have your front, your girl should have your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:57 AM
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I don't disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:56 AM
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of course --even a gay dude should want his lover to support and defend him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:51 AM
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Correct: without friendship and respect, there is no love
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:51 AM
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IDK dude, sounds like a lot a rationalizations behind being a cucky doormat --I am not talking about a girl defending you for being an idiot --I am talking about a girl defending you when you are in the right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:50 AM
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Life is about expectations and promises. Ever wonder why people in impoverished nations don't kill themselves? It's because they don't expect anything from life Western women can't handle being rejected because they have been promised the empire. Even average women have been taught to treat average, well-meaning men, with contempt. And then they hit the wall, and everything changes. They gain weight, lose beauty, etc. And we get these sob stories about how life is unfair, and how they have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:21 AM
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And men are attracted to "bad girls" in many instances (although we shouldn't be) Danger, excitement, passion, rebelliousness, etc. --all this stuff breaks up the monotony of life But the OP is correct: while women like these dark triad traits, it is only to a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:55 AM
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A lot of that is based on old data from poorly-constructed questionnaires and studies These days, the number of sexless men has doubled (so that number is going down), and the amount of promiscuity among women has gone up. I don't think the average girl has had 20+ partners by age 25 or anything like that, but it is probably 10+ at least. I had a buddy who conducted a study when he was doing his PhD, and he reached some interesting conclusions. The women who have the most sex are the ugliest and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:32 PM
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it isn't even 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:22 AM
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I mean is 7-8 partners before me even realistic? By age 25? Shit --a guy would be lucky if those were her actual numbers And it isn't even the number of sex partners--it is the types of encounters. ONS, FWBs, getting railed in the nightclub bathroom, etc. And in some cases it is way worse than this Everyone here can hate me all they want, but it is a fact that American women are low quality. Most are not "marriage material". When I was younger, I had a couple skanky girlfriends, and I finally br…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:20 AM
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Dude, you need to relax--that is the issue. She picked up on some anxiety, apprehensiveness, etc. and it put her in a different mood. STOP putting so much weight on dating, sex, etc. --think to yourself "I am going out with this girl to have a good time. The point is to have fun, and I'm not going on a job interview. I don't even really care what happens" Don't call her back No more cheesy stuff like flowers. Now for the good news: you have had a bunch of dates--that's good! Even this girl was i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:26 PM
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I think there is a lot of confusion here regarding what RP actually is (in a general sense) RP is NOT "cheating on your partner" as a matter of course. It is not deliberately mistreating your GF or wife. It isn't being emotionally unavailable out of some adherence to an arbitrary rule. Andrew Tate has very little to do with RP But let's talk about what taking the RP actually means: The realization that women do not want sentimental, emotional, or fragile men. Most women want Ken dolls with fat w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:39 PM
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I am older and have known a lot of girls. Have a lot of female friends as well, and they pretty much tell me about their sex lives. Doing some quick calculations, from what I know, among the 15 girls in my "sample" the average number of partners is 10-11 by the time they are 30 that is rounding down big-time. The actual number is probably much higher A couple of the girls had pretty low n counts (2-4), and a few had really big (20+) but that is Gen X women, not today's girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:16 PM
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This is about the lack of self-awareness among women. Now are all women looking simply for excitement and fantasy, and don't want men to be deep, intimate, or emotional connections with men? Of course not, but a whole lot are in that camp. A lot of women tolerate men that are abusive, manipulative, dishonest, etc., just so long as those men are hot, wealthy, exciting, etc. But even the guys in the hot group become undesirable if they act sentimental, show emotion, etc. --because that is viewed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:09 PM
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Men not being able to contain or understand their own emotions is different than men regulating their emotional intimacy around women. Men should be able to have deep conversations with their male friends, and to express themselves in the right circumstances, but women almost universally dislike when men become emotional with them, express vulnerability or sadness, etc. There is a scene in the movie "9 1/2 Weeks" where after dealing with an abusive, humiliating relationship, Kim decides to final…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:21 PM
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he just named a bunch. Are you going to seriously claim that women are NOT favored in divorce and family law courts? While the Constitution and our system of laws offers equal protection to the sexes, men are routinely discriminated against in the divorce courts--this is a fact Men are refused teaching positions because of their sex --do you think guys are able to get elementary teaching positions without being considered pedophiles? Women represent like 60% of college attendees and spend 60 cen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:02 AM
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There are different kinds of feminists, and they have different ideologies and values but what you describe sounds consistent with some of it. My wife was a "feminist" when she was younger, and loved Star Trek. She wanted to be a Science Officer going on adventures with guys and kicking ass in her own right lol. That is the first-wave, I-want-to-be-taken-seriously brand of feminism. That is totally fine, and fits in with what you describe. 2nd wave was sexual revolution stuff --now women are def…
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/22 01:31 AM
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In the online dating world, looks dominate --that I do not disagree with. But even in that case, a guy needs to have personality in order to close the deal. Women are not as looks-obsessed as RP guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:04 PM
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That hasn't been my experience. I was tall and attractive in high school and college, and I struggled in the dating sphere. Wasn't total drought, but I badly underachieved in the area of women. Simply being good-looking and mysterious was not enough--women don't like guys they can't figure out, and they don't want to work to get to know a guy. By my senior year of college I started doing much better. Why? I gained confidence, made a concerted effort to get involved with clubs and groups on campu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:16 PM
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you can be a cultured Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:50 PM
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Let me clarify this whole thing There is a difference between being emotional available and being sentimental and fragile. And as others have pointed out, being emotionally available is pretty far down the list on what women want. Being sentimental and emotionally fragile gets you friendzoned or dissed. But being cold, aloof, and unaffected by things around you isn't good either. That's the dude women marry and then complain about ("he works in the garage all day", "doesn't give a shit about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:42 PM
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Ideas Have Consequences -Richard M. Weaver De Oratore -Cicero
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:09 PM
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if you are Doctor Who, not at all the rest of us ...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:57 PM
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How many girls are even into romance movies and books these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:48 PM
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I have a different take on this, and I think it is the correct one: Women want predictable men who don't challenge them Women don't want to put in effort to "get to know" a guy who isn't completely transparent and obvious. Women like excitement and maybe even some danger, but they don't want anything real, deep, or challenging. They like the asshole fratboy with nice abs vs. a handsome-but-shy dude who might have a lot under the surface. Now this isn't all women, but let's not pretend that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:45 PM
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You have to remember that women don't do things simply out of lust or validation --they primarily do things to fit in with their peer-group and to receive recognition from other women. In other words, some chick could end up in a ONS with Chad, not because she is overwhelmed by his good looks and charm, but because it will increase her status among her peer-group, and allow her to fit in better. So does Chad get easy sex? Sure. Does he get it for the reasons a lot of guys think? Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:38 PM
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well I can give an example: I was dating a girl for a while back in the late 90s. I had to fly to a job interview across the country, but my city was engulfed in a blizzard, and virtually every flight was cancelled (it was downright dangerous, with high winds, no visibility). I told her I needed the job, and had to fly out on this rinky-dink charter flight (only one that could fly out). I flew out, spent a couple hours at the interview, and then flew back in the same damn blizzard. It was insane…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:10 AM
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The line between casual sex and high-risk behavior is blurry. For women, such activity could lead to pregnancy, STDs, or even date rape. For men, it could mean STDs, paternity suits, and allegations of rape. I had a buddy who went on a date with this chick to a hotel room. They were going to play video games and screw, and it was pretty clear from the start what was on the agenda. She later accused him of "going to far". It just isn't worth it imho. I was always very judicious about who I dated,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:04 PM
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Among my group of friends, success didn't mean the number of women you slept with. It meant the quality of women you dated. A dude with a 20 bodycount who routinely climbed into bed with unattractive, promiscuous chicks, was not considered a success. He was look down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:57 PM
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The whole survey is a bunch of nonsense. People are getting married much later in life than in previous decades. This means more time in the dating market, and much higher body-counts Women routinely lie on surveys Men lie as well (on the upside --no way 1/3 of guys have 15+ body counts. The most successful and promiscuous guys I knew may have been around that number by age 30, but that was a couple guys out of all the dudes I know) As others have pointed out, it doesn't include virgins Bad meth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:45 PM
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Not everything turns into Brokeback Mountain. A lot of stuff does, but not everything ...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:36 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:35 AM
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Some men want this yes --guys that are somewhat insecure, have limited interests, etc. They don't want a girl who is smarter than them, or who will try to dominate the relationship, be combative, etc. Unfortunately, feminism has taught women to view men as competitors at best, and predators at worst
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:32 PM
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It isn't enough to simply be a "good girl" or plain Jane. Men want charm. Most of the women I dated in life were conservative (some militantly) girls who were witty, charming, and engaging. Almost none of them had tattoos, dressed provocatively, etc. They were into arts and literature, and had wide interests. Boring people have trouble finding matches. Doesn't mean guys will disqualify the quiet, shy girl (that can be charming in itself sometimes), but such girls are very hard to read, and somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:47 PM
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Christianity is dying in the west. My wife takes me along to the church we attend on Sundays, and she is more involved over there than I am. It's like a social club with the rock band, bbqs, and feel-good message. I rarely see any single women in the congregation. All are either married, windowed, or the teenage daughters of attendees. There are some programs for the high-schoolers, and the kids can meet boyfriends/girlfriends at those events (I assume), but it is not somewhere a guy in his 20s …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:58 PM
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I never had this idea that I need the most number of partners possible. I firmly believe that a short relationship with a very high quality woman is worth 20 flings with tramps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:00 AM
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OK, so it doesn't sound like you were simply going out to the club, meeting some dude, and 3 hours later were in bed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:32 PM
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for the guys that you had LTRs with (5 years?), how soon after meeting them did you sleep with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:49 AM
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I am curious: how does a girl who leans towards having serious, long-term relationships, end up on ONS situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:40 PM
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It isn't much different with young guys. There are the girls who are hot and dangerous, the ones you don't bring home to meet the family, and who you know are not relationship material ...but they are so tempting as you get older and mature, you learn to go for quality vs. chicks like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:17 PM
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Learn how to dress: lose the fucking baseball cap (it says you are either losing your hair, or you never grew up, or both), and develop a style. Leather shoes, collared shirts, vests, nice jackets, etc. No fucking cargo shorts, team jerseys, dingy t-shirts, etc. Smile and make eye-contact. So basic, but fundamental Try not to talk about yourself. Talk about interesting or funny things, and mix seriousness with humor. Girls love to learn about new things, and to expand their horizons. Introduce t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:04 PM
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the ultimate black pill: the guys who want serious relationships are viewed as manipulative bastards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:19 AM
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there are guys who exhibit similar behavior to these women the RP crowd complains about the good-looking guy who is never satisfied with any woman he is with, doesn't want any kind of commitment (but says he does), desires things other men want, thinks he is entitled to women that are out-of-his-league, racks up a big body count, evaluates his self-worth by how women treat him, etc. in both men and women, this behavior doesn't go anywhere good
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:48 PM
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The behavior that men object to when it comes to women is not exclusive to women. It is just bad behavior in-general, in many cases I would imagine that a RP women realizes She needs to gain self-awareness and be honest with herself. She needs to understand her own behavior and not rationalize, minimize, or explain away hypergamous and manipulative impulses. She would understand that women frequently do things out of Mimetic Desire (they want things because other women want them), and get a hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:35 PM
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that's a blue pill view. Reality says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:19 PM
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OK so why are you objecting to my earlier post that said women were not looking for LTRs, commitment, etc. --they were looking for hookups, excitement, and to gain status among other women? You just said lots of your friends engaged in this behavior the men may have been uglier "most of the time", but I am pretty sure your friends were out looking for Chad. They probably got drunk and insecure, and bagged some average dude out of some quest for affirmation. you probably haven't encountered a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:19 PM
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Another problem is that living in digital worlds, and communicating through texting, leads to guys who have problems socializing, and who lack any kind of interpersonal skills or game. This compounds the struggle for average or below-average guys
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:58 PM
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The only time I got "cheated on" in a LTR (that I know about) involved a chick that got with her ex-boyfriend while I was dating her. I don't remember even thinking about the physical aspect of the sex that happened. I was much more pissed off about being lied to, and the fact that I was basically a place-holder boyfriend, or even a "side-guy" while she waited to get back with her primary guy. It was the only time in my dating life that I remember feeling humiliated. so for me, it wasn't the sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:39 PM
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When women are young and immature, they fall into this hedonistic culture. They are impressionable and stupid. It then becomes a matter of degree: aka, how bad did it get? College is a complete shitshow. Women don't want to commit when they are young, and want to be "free". In my 20s, I dated this French Canadian chick in my last year of college, and continued on with her in a LTR for 2 years. She was a virgin when I met her. Things were pretty solid until she decided she needed to go "see the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:13 PM
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All those men have epic levels of status and are wealthy. Buscemi and Devito are probably pretty funny and charming in person as well Status and money can turn a low-value man into a high-value, but that isn't the norm for the rest of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:35 PM
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the sad story about "couldn't find the right guy" is classic, until we realize they were never looking for the "right guy". Women create these narratives about how they were looking for future husbands, when they were simply looking for hookups with Chads. My wife once said "that is how young women rebel", which is absolutely true. I remember having the "talk" with my future wife about her past, and we were engaged at the time. Some stuff came out that I didn't like (and this was pre-RP), and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:18 PM
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Having an ONS can sometimes be the result of a Chad hunt gone wrong, or missing the mark. Please, stop with the high horse, and stop pretending you are part of some clique of 1950s women pining over their husbands. Honestly, look back at your friend's behavior, think back on college (if you went), or analyze the way your female friends act now, and tell me that nothing of what I have said is true. These women didn't have ONS? FWBs? Chase Chads for "casual encounters", wait until they were in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:06 PM
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It depends on what RP men means? I accept some RP ideas and have a happy marriage. The crux of the matter is this: extreme female hypergamy, hedonism, a distorted dating market, contempt for the family, third-wave feminism, and other factors, are bad for both women and men. This doesn't mean women are inherently bad, or that no "good" (well-adjusted, realistic, family-oriented, honest) women exist. It means that modern western culture convinces them to behave in ways that are damaging to themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:01 PM
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After she has hit the wall sure not when she is aged 18-29. Women don't want to commit to anyone when they are in their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:50 PM
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I agree that those should be the guys to have LTRs with, or marry. But those guys typically have a very rough time with women. I know a guy who is very religious, leads some groups at the local church, has a good job that pays well, and he is very handsome. His overweight and entitled wife treats him like complete garbage. She views his commitment, fidelity, kindness, and integrity as weakness. She's bored. It seems to me that she wants to go get piped down by some jobless bad boy, instead of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:29 AM
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Pretty sure both Elon Musk and Bill Gates lost their wives and baby-mommas. Larry Ellison has been divorced 3 times, so I'm not sure where you are pulling this "the world's most powerful men are all happily married" nonsense from I have hung out with good-looking, charismatic, guys for most of the life. I have seen them bang so many women in ONS situations I can't even begin to count. 90% of the women I have known in my life have had at least one ONS, and I've known a lot. So please get off your…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:23 AM
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Desirable men who want commitment and kids are not "desirable" women want to ride the carousel for 8-10 years before, as you said "settling down" that is the whole crux of the issue. The age of marriage keeps going up, the divorce rate keeps going up, the childless rate (falling birthrate--lowest point ever) are we going to keep pretending nothing is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:14 AM
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I am curious, what does "wholesome" mean in this instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:27 PM
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As if my status (not a neckbeard at all--actually happily married with kids) has any bearing on what I just said Recent studies that measured behavior and outcomes, actually showed that women care as much about looks, and in some cases even more, than men do. They routinely lie on surveys, and practice dual-mating strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZavkRHgQKY&t=828s (lots of good stuff on that video if you care to look) You can fly off-the-handle, and get upset, but this is the reality. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:27 PM
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Decades of observations amid the dating market, analyzing women's behavior, and looking at the entertainment they digest (films, books, etc.) There simply aren't any particularly good studies out there which analyze the dating market and come to reasonable conclusions regarding female behavior. It doesn't mean all women cheat or sleep around, but ... women view men who desire commitment, monogamy, and honesty as pathetic simps. Go turn on the TV and tell me what you see: any "family guy" on a dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:41 PM
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Here are the issues with the study: Women no not respond accurately, or honestly, to these surveys. Many men don't answer honestly either. A woman's concept of "committed relationship" (even one that involves living with a guy), does not often include things like strict monogamy. Women routinely get action on the side and still insist they are "taken" The study says half of single people aren't looking for "dates". Evidence this study was done by boomers. Women don't typically date, they hookup,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:13 PM
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I think the idea is that we are moving to a new societal structure: High-value men (good looking, wealthy, etc.) will have almost exclusive access to women, as women will prefer to be casual sex partners with one of these guys vs. a LTR or wife of an average guys. The encounters average women have will consist of getting piped down by Chads. The good-looking ones will be Saturday night dates. The average, or even below-average ones, will be Tuesday night booty-calls. Virtually none of them will …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:55 PM
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well I was being a bit dramatic with that, but my point is, we know women are not honest on surveys, and frequently lie to themselves about their behavior. Women's body counts are also way higher than what studies and surveys show. I highly doubt 80% of 22 year old women, especially if they are in college, are in truly committed relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:18 PM
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A woman can be in a "committed relationship" and still be banging guys on the side. Women are notorious for self-reporting their relationship status as something exclusive, LT, etc., while they have "slip-ups" once or twice a month with Chads from the local bar
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:15 PM
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Women don't generally sleep with hot guys who are out-of-their-league because they want a relationship, or they want affirmation they screw hot guys to gain status among other women, and in some cases men. The "I bagged Chad", therefore I am of higher attractiveness and value, is a big thing for women. Women don't care about getting pump-and-dumped (generally). A vast majority of women are not looking for "serious relationships", "marriage-track relationships", etc. --they are out to have fun, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:52 PM
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No perfect 10 because there is no perfect work of art there are sublime examples out there: Audrey Hepburn: feminine delicacy and beauty, charm, charisma Grace Kelly: archetypal female form and beauty--Aphrodite on Earth, but without the delicacy and charm of Audrey and countless women who are athletic, statuesque, and sexy --but no woman has it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:45 PM
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it it were a wife it would be totally different --that demands confrontation. Or, if the dude was disrespectful to the GF and very pushy. but if I went after every dude that ever disrespected me in my life I would be in jail right now. I never worried about guys "sniping" my girls--it never once happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:14 PM
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I disagree. Yukio Mishima showed us that the true self is obscured, suppressed, and frustrated at the edicts of the outside world "Nobody even imagines how well one can lie about the state of one’s own heart.” life is a pantomime in places like China
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:27 PM
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true story. Back when I was in college, and had to go overseas for a bit, some dude try to move in on my LTR girlfriend. She shot him down and insulted him in the process. When I cam back, and saw the dude, my buddy was like "you need to go confront that ahole for making a pass at your woman" I was like "dude, that's mate-guarding. She is with me, I have no fear. Likewise, she makes her own decisions" my buddy just couldn't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:31 PM
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the average age for marriage in the US is around 30. For women it is around 28 (in many northern states it is 29+) for many years, the average age was under 22 --it started going way up in the last few decades. Some studies have shown that like 50%+ of women have had one-night-stands. For those women, the number isn't typically one--it is a bunch. That's hookup culture. So do some women get into LTRs in their 20s? Sure. But even among those women, many also had casual relationships, ONS, FWBs, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:55 PM
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well riddle me this: if women in their 20s view commitment as something awful, why the sudden change of attitudes in their 30s? If women view men who want commitment and serious relationships as weak, cucky, beta-males, when these women are in their 20s, why do these guys suddenly become eligible mates when the 30s come around? In other words, you can't say "women want serious relationships and commitment"!!!!!! --dude, they don't. They didn't want that between age 17-30, and all-of-a-sudden cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:46 PM
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OK, I call your bluff what romance movies and novels are popular among 20-something girls today?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:40 PM
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if that is happening, you are choosing poor men indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:56 PM
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There are no purely "alpha males" --but the concept of af/bb is an imperfect model AFB/BB has a lot of internal consistency in that It is promoted by culture and society. It is routinely seen in female behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:31 PM
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I don't think that every guy who protests against afbb is some frustrated incel. In reality, those guys are seldom found here I am happily married for 20 years (and had plenty of relationships before that). But I am under no illusions about how the sexual marketplace works. Pointing out the problems with it does not indicate lack of success with women Most women are not loyal, and virtually none are chaste. Loyalty among women is not the same thing as among men (watch the miniseries "Billions", …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:04 PM
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I suspect that if you look at your past behavior and inclinations, you will realize that you weren't looking for commitment: you were looking for excitement and affirmation Now if you had a bunch of LTRs with real commitment, awesome: it is a healthy mindset but I have known a lot of women, and I've been in quite a few relationships. I have female friends who are very close to me and who are completely honest with me --I know what they think, and how they act They have routinely pursued men they…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:45 PM
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well it is good you brought that up: western women in the 21st century are NOT acting according to evolutionary psychology women don't need men as protectors and providers anymore (not that they aren't looking for some provisioning). We live in a gyno-centric culture--women spend a majority of the consumer dollar, have higher college graduation rates, lower poverty rates, special protections under the law (divorce courts, custody, etc.) ... in other words, this isn't the stone age or the middle-…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:38 PM
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You are thinking like a guy, or simply telling guys what they want to hear. Women have the periscope up because they control access to sex and interpersonal encounters. A woman always has a plan B or C Unless she is in her early 30s and has decided that the clock is ticking, games can't be played anymore, her SMV is waning, and she better commit Women in their 20s have too many options, and women in their 30s have too few
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:33 PM
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only a couple examples. But remember how popular both those things were? Even romance novels typically feature rakes, pirates, and scoundrels rescuing women from domestic married life, bedding them, and then moving on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:30 PM
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Repeat after me ... women don't want "commitment". Men who commit are considered weak and undesirable. When women ask for some kind of relationship or commitment, it is simply control and certainty that they want. They want those 8% annualized returns, the guy to parade in front of their parents and girlfriends, and a source of affirmation. Meanwhile, she is keeping the periscope up for Chad, or some kind of backup plan so no dude, women are not after serious or committed relationships, and they…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:32 PM
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a lot of "good guys" get caught up in the idea of helping the crazy girl --aka, white knight her. Only the mature guys who have been around the block realize it is a waste of time and not something they should get involved with bad boys will simply use the crazy girl from time to time, and put her in her place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:25 PM
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When I was young, I was friends with a girl who was impressive indeed. I was a bit younger than her, so it was like a big sister in some ways. I also had a buddy I was friends with at the same time --this was overseas. I would give up 99% of wall the women I've ever bedded to get these two people back in my life, and go on adventures with them Cicero was right when he put supreme value on friendship. So it might not fill the void, but it is a different thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:40 PM
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Interesting post. Let me dissect this a bit: the women you find yourselves with are Gold diggers: you are seeing materialism and ulterior motives in women because you yourself put more value in money than on people. Dude, my finest women were when I was penniless. Most women are not rent-seeking (some are for sure). You are projecting here Crazy women: you are aiming low and ending up with the loonies. Stop bottom feeding. Racists: most women are going to find chronically-offended, latte-sipping…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:31 PM
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they lack self-awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:39 AM
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come on now --women agree to such arrangements all the time, and in many cases, shallow, sexual relationships are exactly what they are looking for but you are correct in saying that such shallow nonsense is worse than no sex at all I am of the opinion that women initiate these shallow arrangements, not guys
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:15 PM
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come on now: most girls are satisfied with good sex, a handsome face, and a stupid dude who is easily controlled women don't want deep relationships, trips to the opera and symphony, the art museum, or a book reading. They don't want aesthetic intensity or adventure --they want dumb meatheads. They don't want to talk about intellectual or artistic things. Western women have virtually nothing to offer outside of the bedroom, and that is sad. They certainly don't want anything "emotional"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:08 AM
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true, I learned this the hard way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:04 AM
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but it isn't. How many women have you seen that throw themselves at guys with model good-looks who are complete brainless churls? Dudes who embarrass themselves when they open their mouths, and who have never read a book. And of course men are guilty of this too --the guys who chase the dumb lingerie model. Men are playfully superficial, but at the end of the day, they want good wives who have character and depth. Women are comprehensively superficial, and at the end end of the day want walking …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:05 PM
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this 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:58 PM
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I don't buy this nonsense that women want emotional connection or even commitment at my age, I realize women are more shallow than men, they just talk a good game, lie on surveys, and present narratives desperate men seek validation through sex --they are starved for affection. Woman can get it when they want it, and still settle for meaningless encounters with bad-boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:57 PM
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MGTOW is men on strike, and while it can feel good to say fu** this I'm done, it is counter-productive in the long-run
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:54 PM
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The "leaked brief" may be a hoax by some law student at NYU. Even if it is legit, opinions like these go through numerous revisions and changes, and have to be signed off on until I see evidence from the court that this is real, I say hoax
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:31 PM
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title?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:43 AM
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the problem is, a vast majority of these encounters are ONS or hook-ups, and that means hundreds of women are engaging in this behavior for every Chad fukboi out there. It gets back to the whole "there are no good girls out there, just ones who haven't been caught"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:10 PM
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The Bad Boy is the guy who Wants no commitment, and no LTRs Isn't honest about himself, but simply tells women what they want to hear. They know he is lying, but they don't care. A guy who is not marriage material Attractive in some way--either edgy, or traditional Has some "Alpha" traits: rebellious, outspoken, etc. Craves excitement Now not all of this is bad, but as a whole package, it amounts to a dude who is only worth a roll in the sack. But that is what women want. They want freedom, lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 11:49 PM
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Never mate-guard. She either wants to be with me, or she is looking elsewhere and if she is looking elsewhere, cool --I will too. Plenty of fish in the ocean whether or not it is some chisled social media "influencer" or regular dude she has eyes for, is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:00 PM
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I disagree: men view a solid relationship with a hot, quality girl, as something to be proud of. Lots of guys can get lucky with some drunk chick or get one encounter with a girl, only to be cast aside the next day --that isn't much to brag about. I wasn't in to casual sex before marriage: any chick that would engage in such behavior with me was ultimately viewed with disdain. Some guys have a different idea about this, but in my circle, we wanted relationships with quality women we could respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:39 PM
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and what are you going to offer a chick with a 80+ body count? lol I don't doubt that I was with a couple back in the day --such is the modern world
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:24 AM
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Agreed: I am not saying never date, or never marry. I've been married for a while, and my wife compliments me well. But men shouldn't go hunting for unicorns, and they shouldn't get derailed. Something like 80% of my friends (and I have quite a few) are divorced. Some more than once. From all walks of life. Women didn't do anything for these guys except hurt them financially, emotionally, and socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:54 PM
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sure it is possible. But such a guy needs to make sure his self-esteem doesn't get wrapped up in his success, or lack of success, with women. Likewise, women can become a distraction and prevent guys from reaching their goals. So be careful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 10:56 PM
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this 100%, and I will add: Men need to stop assigning their own net worth and quality in terms of how women view us. That is a gynocentric society in which a bunch of hungry dudes squabble over a limited supply of women. It is a society in which success and excellence is defined by the criteria set forth by women. Our power comes from saying "no" to this arrangement and scenario. The single guy who has bigger objectives in life than finding some skank to give him attention on Friday night, is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:42 PM
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I never said I didn't have success. I had plenty of girlfriends. nevertheless, my N count isn't really high (maybe around 10 or so before I got married) If you think a lot of dorks get married, where does that leave you? 6 years dating the same girl and no marriage and family? Shit dude, what are you doing? Either you aren't good enough for her to marry because you don't have your shit together, or something else is going on. If you wanna live the bachelor life and fun, go for it. But sticking w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:44 PM
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Dude: You live in an apartment, so you don't have a "lucrative career". People with money own real estate, and oftentimes rental properties. Sounds like you haven't been with a woman long enough for her to know about, or care about, your career. I don't care how many thots you've banged. That doesn't define "success" with women. One beautiful, high-quality women is worth 50 low-rent thots that some dude picked up in the pub after she got sloshed one night. I've been married for quite a while. Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:43 PM
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nonsense. I know a lot of good-looking guys who didn't get much attention from women because their social skills were bad, they were introverted, etc. Sounds like you are trying to blame your lack of success simply on looks, which excuses your own deficiencies in the other areas I exaggerate with the James Bond a bit, but I was solidly good-looking. My looks were not the issue, my attitude and presence were. when I improved those areas, my luck improved dramatically. When I launched a successful…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:09 PM
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if you history is very uncomfortable to share, that's bad! lol I don't think guys are too hung up on the actual number of partners, but we do take stock in the "types" of encounters. 10 LTRs, or serious relationships that involved sex, isn't a big deal. 10 encounters, of which 5 were ONS / hookups, FWBs, etc. is another matter entirely. We want women with some self respect and self-control. And it is OK for women to have that same requirement. Dudes that sleep around don't make good partners, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:30 AM
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There is some truth to this. When I was younger, I was pretty good looking--and when I put on a suit, I looked like fucking James Bond But I was not a player, and didn't get tons of attention from women (had numerous girlfriends, but wasn't banging chicks left and right). Being good looking and fit is NOT enough. You have to be outgoing, humorous, charming, and in some cases, aggressive. The one thing RP is wrong on is this idea that chicks exclusively lust after ripped guys who look like Hugh j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:20 AM
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Guys who go to strip clubs are of the lowest quality out there I hate those places: they are ghetto, and very uncomfortable to be in so you are going to encounter trashy dudes all night long. That isn't how guys act in the general population
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:08 PM
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This is a consequence of a distorted dating market and social environment To understand why unmarried, promiscuous men, are considered "studs", or successful, we have to compare it to the alternative. Unless a guy finds a beautiful, young bride, who is a virgin, or who has a very low N count (like 1-2), and marries her, he is going to looked at as a guy who settled. He married "down". Virtually every guy marries down in terms of quality--they end up with 30 year old wives who have big N counts, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:26 PM
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A woman's perceived value in you, is proportionate to the degree of fidelity and honesty you give her She had hotter guys in the past? Dudes that had their way with her on the first date? Guys she obsessed over and threw herself at? OK, then as a "second choice" (or third) you have no obligation to be faithful or reliable. Bang her friends, bang her younger sister, and let her crawl back to Chad. Use her like a sex toy or an object, because anything else, is submitting to humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:32 AM
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Well here is the problem When women say they want marriage and kids, men don't believe them When women say they want commitment and a real relationship, men don't believe them You are paying the price for the capricious and shallow behavior of the girls around you. There is a way out of that, but it is tricky
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:32 AM
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If you have never been heartbroken, you never reached maturity. Sounds crazy, but totally true. You grow up when you have taken risks, tried to achieve things, and have suffered both success and disappointment. In relationships, if you didn't find some commitment, took a stand, made an investment, etc., you were being an immature tourist or a player. Even James Bond got married bros --and we saw how that worked out. But being crushed by heartbreak, to the point where you are "forever changed", l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:45 AM
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I meant to say, 10, 5, 1
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:52 PM
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For women it is all about Mimetic Desire. The men that other women want suddenly become desirable, even if those men are not considered handsome or "Alpha" Mimetic Desire says that I want a Porsche only after my neighbor buys one. I see it in his driveway, and now I want one Women's criteria for men are not objective (looks, career, etc.) --they are contextual In some cases, women that are desired by other men suddenly become interesting, but that is far less common
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:55 AM
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As a guy, in rating other guys 10/10 is Onur Tuna (6'4 210lbs) --pretty much peak male form http://www.popi-list.com/wp-content/uploads/onur-tuna.jpg Also see young Gregory Peck 5/5 would be anyone like Jerry Seinfeld 1/1 Jonah Hill --- In terms of women 10/10 young Jennifer Connely, Rose Leslie, Alexandra Daddario, and Katie McGrath 5/5 Meryl Streep (even when she was young she lacked feminine beauty somehow --was just very plain) 1/1 Mayor of Chicago Lori Lightfoot. Serena Williams
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:33 AM
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Looking at the statistics, we see the following Roughly 40% of women in western countries have had one-night stands. One study showed that among women who have had one night stands, they have had on average SIX of them (men had seven) Average lifetime sex partners for women is around 7, and for men, 6.4 according to this study https://allthatsinteresting.com/study-sexual-partners With the emergence of online dating, hookup culture has gone from a subculture to a force within the culture itself. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:39 PM
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Many men I talk to believe that a woman's loyalty is dependent on his status, what he can do for her personally, and his adherence to the norms of the "tribe". So this goes way beyond a simple issue of the family not liking him, etc. Let me ask you this: would you lose respect for, or ditch your husband if he did the following: Converted to another religion. Let's say you are Christian and he converted to Islam. Or let's say you are an ardent atheist and he became a devout Christian? Left a lucr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:55 PM
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Those things yes, but there are more important issues. Women like bad boys because: bad boys never hold you accountable for anything, and don't expect much. bad boys are predictable --you know he isn't going to propose marriage, offer to take you on some fancy trip, ask for an exclusive relationship, or get fed up with your nonsense and leave. The bad boy is always around on the periphery, and the only thing he wants is sex and temporary companionship. He isn't "deep" in any way bad boys are as …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:31 PM
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Winnick? oh yes ...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:48 PM
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There is more to this than what you say I had to end a friendship with a girl recently because I was being treated like an emotional tampon. There was no romance between us (I'm happily married) and I certainly was not expecting anything from her --but I noticed that over the years, her emotional needs defined the friendship, and when it came time for her reciprocate to some degree, she didn't. She was self-absorbed,, and started to become annoying. I will help a friend through anything, but I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:00 PM
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Feminism has infected women's minds and ruined marriage. Even Muslim women are susceptible to it (in the west at least) and when women have "careers", the danger of bad marriage and/or divorce goes way up
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:44 PM
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90% of my friends are divorced, or have been. Almost all the divorces were initiated by the woman and involved female infidelity. The sample size is around 20, and the guys were from all walks of life. We live in a gynocentric society that privileges women, and makes women think they are entitled. And we all know how the courts work. In some countries in Europe, like Sweden, people simply shack up, have a couple kids, and let the government raise the kids. You can do that in a place with univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:55 PM
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Pretty much ALL women are into casual sex and ONS. They might say they are not, but when presented with Chad and plowed with booze or pot, they fall right into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:36 PM
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Of course it is possible for women to have a higher N count on average 20% of men having sex with 80% of the women, while 80% of men are having very little sex Guy A screws girl 1 Guy B screws girl 1 Guy C screws girl 1 All other guys have no contact with girl 1. She now has a count of 3, and no guy in the sample has a count greater than 1 the guy in the video actually talks about this in more detail Women have much greater access to sex than men, and they use it, Sure, there are guys with huge …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 04:44 PM
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A) Parental divorce and substance abuse. Little bit of bullying when I was very young. b) teenage years were filled with chaos: suicide, arrests, political violence, substance abuse. Adulthood much better c) anxiety and depression d) I have a good group of friends and lots of support e) I am married, so N/A. f) My N count isn't all that high for a tall, pretty good-looking guy. I sometimes wish I had played the field a whole lot more g) Behavior of women not only impacts my immediate life but al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 03:23 PM
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There are quite a few studies that have shown increasing promiscuity and overall sex partner numbers for women. This guy talks about that and some other issues regarding women's new attitude toward sex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYts4AzRUo&t=35s women are having more sex, and more partners than men, especially since 2010 My female friends are from different walks of life. Doing a little inventory on what I know, the average N count for all of them (15 girls in the list) was around 8. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 02:57 PM
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let me know when you feel like making an actual argument or want to try saying something borderline intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:29 PM
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your concern trolling adds much to this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 02:47 PM
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90%+ of the women I have known (and I know quite a few) had N counts beyond 10 by age 30. Most were above that. If they went to college, it was virtually guaranteed that there were some drunken ONS situations, and short-term stuff. My wife once said "when guys are young, they rebel with violence, risky behavior, drugs, etc. when girls are young, they rebel with sex" any guy here who thinks his GF or wife has a low N count is delusional. You are very lucky if it is only like 6-8. Even the relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:27 PM
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I think most guys would agree that a slut has High body count: 10+ Engaged in ONS Engaged in FWB It is as simple as that. A combination of total partners and types of encounters. A woman might have a body count of 15 at age 30, but without any ONS or FWB situations, calling her a slut might be unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:32 PM
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keep in mind that those surveys are pretty small and come from the UK British women are the most promiscuous women in Europe, according to other studies. But it is true that females in western countries are much more promiscuous, on average, than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 03:01 PM
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I have criticized RP guys heavily on this. Their position is essentially "all women are sluts, she isn't mine, it's just my turn, marriage and kids is for suckers, and true love impossible, therefore we should game women, sleep around, and do our own thing" And while that is completely defeatist and culturally damaging in the extreme (because guys sleeping around creates promiscuous women and "Alpha Windows"), it also reinforces the bad behavior of women I was talking with one of my female frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 02:48 PM
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men should, and sometimes do, get reputations I had a buddy in college who liked to sleep around. I remember a girl telling me one night "he is such a cad. Always trying to get into any chick's pants. Pathetic" and eventually, guys also viewed this dude as sneaky and sex-obsessed. A guy you don't trust around your girlfriend, wife, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:35 PM
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the point of my post was not to get into a discussion about date rape or the history of women. No one here has suggested women "deserve" to get raped because they are drunk, etc. It was that the film can be read against itself and yields some interesting conclusions involving "nice guys" who signal and white knight, and the deceitful behavior of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:33 PM
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before I respond, let me ask have you actually seen the film, or do you simply want to hit me with feminist talking points?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 04:08 AM
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I disagree Men who cannot feel, and who cannot express profound emotions, are not masculine, they are beaten down and passive. Howard said that Conan was a man of "great mirth and great melancholies". Lawrence was alpha as fuc* and yet felt things deeply and would shed a tear when he had to execute a man in the desert We should be warrior poets, and stop acting in ways that women want. Stop putting on some mask, and be who you want to be. Yukio Mishima died for his art and his nation, and knew h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 01:52 AM
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Stop acting like a slut. We understood this stuff when I was a teenager, and girls who did act like sluts got reputations. Show some self-control and discipline. Not only girls, but guys. Sex in a few LTRs in absolutely fine. ONS, threesomes, getting piped down in nightclub bathrooms, wandering out of frat houses in the early morning hours after some dude tagged you --not fine. For me, I'll take one high quality girl over 100 low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 12:06 AM
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Here are some suggestions: At your university, find the campus Christian club and join it. Back when I was in college, I joined the Newman Association and met a nice girl there I dated for years afterwards. These clubs are probably starting to meet in person again, and will provide you with activities and great way to meet girls. Use a Christian dating app. Some apps allow you to filter for religion. Get involved with your local church As things open up, go to meetup groups for things like gamin…
/r/RPChristians19/02/21 03:57 PM
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To be honest, Red and Purple pill subs tend to contain a lot of complaining and bitterness as well, and very little in the way of advice on how to find a good woman (or man) Most RP guys are not out to find quality women to begin with, just abundance. They have nihilistic, jaded views of love and marriage. And I understand this, it is easy to get frustrated and disgusted about the dating scene and women's behavior. But you ultimately have to either find a woman of quality or go MGTOW. You don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:29 PM
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I didn't say all women who have careers automatically cheat, but the risks go up quite a bit when husband and wife don't spend time together because they are focused on high-powered careers, cheating is often the result
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:12 AM
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unironically saying that men and women are exactly alike
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:04 PM
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. So when you guys have kids, you want your wife traveling 2-3 weeks a month while the baby sleeps in daycare? You want a woman who is more focused on her career than her kids? You want a wife that gets piped down by a co-worker in Tokyo after a few drinks? If she is attractive and high-powered, she will cheat, and she will feel entitled in doing so you shouldn't be looking for a business partner. You should be looking for a wife and mother
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:10 PM
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women fantasize about anonymous sex all the time, and many women engage in ONS that amount to such things. The idea that women don't want these encounters is a canard put out there by women themselves to mislead men Now lesbian women are different, and most suffer from major emotional and psychological problems, have issues with sex in general, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 02:43 PM
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Some of this is correct, but much of it is not particularly relevant. Why? Obviously the "Wall" primarily deals with fertility, but it gets into a deeper issue regarding female value in our society. Every mean has an ideal when it comes to women, and that ideal is never the 32 year old career woman with a lot of sexual history, and a body that is beginning to sag. A young, pretty, virginal woman is full of potential and life. She retains a degree of innocence, and is typically kind and patient. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 09:46 PM
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while this is true, it isn't typically that obvious and overt Typically, a guy finds himself idealizing or pedestalizing a woman if he does the following: Dismisses her faults or feels sympathy towards her because of them. Was she used by other guys, or contract a STD? Instead of feeling disgust, and realizing that she was probably part of the problem, you instead feel sympathy. Considers her physical appearance to be far beyond what it really is. Ignores her bad behavior toward others, aka "she…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 02:28 PM
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A few things to consider here If church leadership is asking you to mask up in order to protect elderly members of the church, or those with health conditions, you need to do it. Now there was another issue last year that was a bit different. That involved political officials ordering churches the shut down completely, even after we understood the virus better (COVID-19 has around a 0.65% infection fatality rate, and this number is much lower for those under the age of 59 --it isn't smallpox or …
/r/RPChristians15/02/21 02:56 PM
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shallow isn't defined by wanted a quality mate. Of course men and women should try to get the highest quality person they can. shallowness is more about prizing completely superficial things over other things, lack of depth, and absence of culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 02:54 PM
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but this gets right into the crux of the issue you say you are in a LTR with a "Chad", and yet imply that you have also had short-term flings in order to have a "good time". Now there are different kinds of short-term relationships, but let's say these were ONS so there really aren't any standards here. Most guys get very uncomfortable knowing their girlfriends or wives engaged in ONS, and according to some studies, 66% of women in the US have done it. That's bad. detachment and refusal to get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 03:25 PM
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I honestly think resisting mimetic desire is one of the most important things in life. It ties into jealousy and resentment, and can lead to all kinds of problems. I've never been in credit-card debt (or any kind of debt) in my life, even though most of my friends were very well off, owned fancy cars and stereos, homes, etc. I never though I was "entitled" to any of it, and lived within my means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 02:57 PM
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While there are some women who somehow end up in the arms of some guy she never intended on bedding, and has regrets, I think this is rationalization and deflection women seek short-term sex for validation, lust, and because they love relationships which have no future, and put no demands on them. They hate accountability. men seek sex for some of the same reasons, but unlike women, we do not lack self-reflection and do not try to explain away our actions. women aren't dumpster diving when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 03:12 AM
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if they think he's not good enough for a friend Unironically suggesting women have concrete standards lol. Women don't have standards, they have situations, and everything is contextual. A man's worth is only that which is bestowed upon him by a girl's friends, and that is temporary at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 02:01 AM
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Not from my experience. It was always an unwritten rule that friends did not get with their friends ex-lovers. I remember getting kissy face with my buddy's ex-girlfriend many years ago. Dude had broke up with her 3 years prior. When he found out about it, he completely exploded on me. Sure, some scuzzy dudes might be looking to move in on anything cast aside, but I don't think that is the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 01:58 AM
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indeed sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:56 PM
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Just because you don't experience this, doesn't mean other women don't. Women get a lot more jealous than men, and experience mimetic desire in a higher degree. I'm sure a lot of guys here, including myself, have experienced a situation where some girl's friend sabotaged their relationship simply out of spite and jealousy. I remember when I was in college, and there was this girl I just adored. We were good friends, but it had never moved to another level. Why? Because her best friend told my ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 05:20 PM
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It is all about mimetic desire. Women wan't things because other women want them, not because they want those things for themselves Men suffer from this as well: your neighbor buys a Porsche, and now you feel like you should have one, even though it never occurred to you to go out and buy an expensive sports car. And women get jealous of their friends' boyfriends. Men are almost always congratulatory when they see their buddy with a pretty, nice girl. Women are typically outraged when they see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 02:46 PM
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I didn't say 98% of men are deeper than women. There are plenty of shallow men out there what I did say is that women do not appreciate or want "depth" or profound meaning. They want stability and things that are predictable. The male artist or writer will set out to challenge convention. The female will seek to have her work deemed socially acceptable within a given realm and seek affirmation. This is a cultural thing, not biological. Even in the realm of the "transgressive", such as shock-rock…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:50 PM
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Anxiety is way more common in women than men anxiety and depression in women is largely attention-seeking. This is why men succeed at suicide attempts while women typically don't --men mean it now there can be anxiety over other issues, such as money, children, etc. but that isn't the kind of stuff that drives great art (which doesn't always have to be about loneliness or heartbreak which is true)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:40 PM
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Rowling, Angelou, and Walker are not good writers lol Austin certainly is, and Woolf is decent Kahlo and Keefe are pop artist lightweights one position removed from Thomas Kinkade none of those women are on par with Thomas, Tennyson, Coleridge, E. Masters, T.S. Elliot, Mishima, or artists such as Van Dyck, Sargent, Sloan, Glackens, and hundreds of others. I think you are the one who needs to get some culture
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:22 PM
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the reason that women trail men in regards to art, poetry, and music, is not because they biologically can't. It is because artistic expression often involves great risk --gong against the grain. It also involves a sense of what it means to be threatened emotionally, and vulnerable. Women don't do risks, and they are rarely at risk emotionally. It is men that must court women and ask them out --therefore it is the men that are putting themselves at risk of rejection. Likewise, a semi-attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:09 PM
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Vulnerability and emotion get into things like depth and meaning. Women don't want depth and meaning. This is one reason why most women cannot write really good poetry, make profound films, or even paint great pictures. They can get to a point, but no further. There are no female Shakespeares or Dylan Thomases. No female Kirosawa or Rembrandt. Men take risks with their lives, their art, and their emotions. Women do not understand risk, and rarely experience it. Most women are disgusted by men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:38 PM
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no, I was saying that most guys probably shouldn't get married almost 90% of my friends are divorced, or headed in that direction (like 14 couples). And 90% of those divorces involved cheating by the wife, and were initiated by the wife. one dude got sick with cancer and his wife ditched him because she got tired of having to pick up the kids at school while he was sick in bed. Too much housework for the pampered princess, so she started banging my buddy's business partner and kicked him out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:14 PM
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it was probably fake. "Rape culture" isn't a thing: numerous studies were done that contradicted this narrative, and the Rolling Stone article was a pack of lies. Now that doesn't mean date rape doesn't happen on campus, but this idea that an organized conspiracy against women exists and that all men will defend rapists is complete bs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:58 PM
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The big problem with this whole thing, from the male perspective, is that something which *should* be a positive (college education) for women, ends up being a negative. Colleges are big, drunken hookup parties. Save for a few schools, where this isn't the culture (MIT, for instance), women rack up huge N counts in college, with ONS, bad encounters, baggage, STDs, etc. I know a nurse who works in a college health center: you wouldn't believe the stuff she sees on a daily basis. But guys don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:56 PM
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Dating for me was vetting I would typically meet a girl for coffee or ice cream, and if things went well, we would go on a more formal date. I always paid, and she never saw the check (making the girl pay for early dates, or going dutch is tacky asf, and there is nothing worse than being seen as a cheapskate who can't afford to take women out) I wanted to see the girl dressed well, preferably in a nice dress. I wanted to see her social graces and ability to compose herself in a high-class settin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:07 PM
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strangely enough, the guy I know who is worth the most money (through his own businesses and his family's --probably around 600 million or so), and who owns a 6 million dollar penthouse in Chicago, married an airline stewardess from a LMC family. Chick never went to college. He just didn't care about her education or family background. It was pretty shocking to the rest of us but you are correct in that typically, a girl from a lower class DOES have to have some kind of educational pedigree and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:54 PM
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No guy who has to be supported financially by his wife should be making any demands in regards to her education or career Likewise, being a member of the UC is not a matter of educational pedigree. The middle-class thinks there is some relationship there --not true. It comes down to your name, your family, the industries that your family is involved in, and if you are lucky, an actual European (preferably British) title. The Vietnamese girl who graduated 3rd in her class from Harvard isn't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:29 PM
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Do you work for a living? Did your husband expect you to work? Did he actually care about the actual college you went to, or simply that you attended a decent school and were cultured and intelligent? I don't think graduate school at Harvard is like finishing school. Sure, it doesn't hurt, but it is not some kind of requirement. but more to the point: why would very high quality, wealthy men, want "college girls" at all? That is the dilemma facing a lot of guys these days, because college means …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 10:05 PM
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Yeah this is the standard coping mechanism for people who either a. didn't make it in themselves and did you go to Harvard? You shouldn't fetishize universities. You can get a better education at dozens of other schools in the world than what you get at Harvard. You won't have teaching assistants for instructors, will have smaller class size, and even better access to technology. A degree isn't going to open doors for you. Your own drive, initiative, cleverness, and interpersonal skills will. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 09:59 PM
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That's funny because I'm here right now working from home at my FWB's place LOL! Dude can't even find himself a real relationship or job and he is criticizing selling stuff on Ebay while your fat whore of a FWB chills on the couch? go get a STD test, a real job, and stop spreading bullshit on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 07:19 PM
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Illinois is a flyover shithole and Kenilworth is a dump devoid of any prestigious social institutions you sound like a Winklevoss wanna-be. Kenilworth is north of this place called Chicago--maybe you have heard of it? Chicago is home to the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE), and the CME, the two largest, and most important options and commodities trading bodies in the entire world. There is whole lot of money here, and some of it is very old (and a lot of new) According to Bloomberg, Illinoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 04:03 PM
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Right, because seemingly every other girl from Ivy League schools totally isn't gunning for finance after school...nope, not at all. It's obviously like only a handful. let's try to unpack this incoherent sentence that obviously didn't come from someone who grew up in Greenwich and was not educated at the finest private schools. the backwards construction with phrases like "because seemingly ... totally isn't gunning" followed by the split-infinitive "it's obviously like ..." is evidence that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 03:40 PM
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guy google's "wealthiest places in US" and comes back with that lol like of course it is Greenwich! go look up Kenilworth, IL --that is where I was born
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 02:56 PM
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Oxford and Heidelberg are a couple of the most difficult universities to get into in the world. Those are not "safety" schools Colby? Sure --I knew a couple rich girls that ended up there you are correct in pointing out that the secondary school is sometimes more important than the college. Elite schools, especially girl's schools, in places like NY ARE looked on as being very important among old-money and the upper-class. but as I pointed out to another user, among very wealthy, upper-class, ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 02:44 PM
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I don't know what you are saying in the first sentence. You need to learn to write coherently are you saying Ivy League girls want to get into finance? Sure they do. We are not talking simply about Ivy League girls. We are talking about girls from very wealthy, old-money, WASPY families. I am not part of the 1%, and never said I was part of those families. But I did grow up around them in one of the wealthiest and most exclusive parts of the country (didn't like it very much, and left for Europe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 02:29 PM
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who is "they" --what old-money have you been around? let's compare some notes shall we? whenever I hear a person telling me what rich people do, I know they haven't been around the upper class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 02:01 PM
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And why should a drunk woman be taken advantage of? and where did I say that exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:58 PM
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College education is only one piece of the puzzle when it comes with social class. A state school is perfectly fine, and very few men would draw some kind of distinction between Yale and University of Connecticut. High value men also care about a girl's family--or at least should. If she grew up in a trailer park and has a dad in prison, that's bad. If she is from a good family, especially one with a respected name, that is appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:14 PM
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I don't disagree with most of this, but it is getting into deeper issues regarding predatory men. In the film, at least three guys try to come off as "good guys", allies, and woke (dude in the Uber at the start of the film, the hippie novelist, and Ryan). Especially in the case of the last two, we see weak, clingy, beta males, who use signaling trickery to get what they couldn't get normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:28 PM
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Who said Cassie or Nina had "huge" N counts? Madison had an admittedly big N count and indicated her friends did too. When she grouped in Nina with this, and implied Cassie was part of the same scene, there was no protest from Cassie. So who says that Nina and Cassie didn't have huge N counts? I think you are completely missing the point and the subtext. The sexually liberated, promiscuous, and even dangerous environment, which Madison celebrates, has a cost, and that cost is once in a while, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:21 PM
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This was the culture And you think that is normal?!!! The film clearly makes the case that this IS the "normal", and that is the problem how many people were in on the rape? How many people knew about it? Potentially dozens, both men and women. It was a big joke. And the idea that most men sleep around in college and rack up huge N counts, and then lie to their future wives about it simply isn't true. We know from this forum, experience, and statistics (men lie), that men do NOT have the same ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 08:36 PM
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well if you buy the whole "rape is about power" theory, that doesn't hold up high value men, with self-esteem, and a moral compass, aren't out raping women. They don't need to resort to force to get what they want --and it isn't in their nature anyway lower value men, with poor self-esteem, who feel entitled, and who are hostile towards women, are the rapists. Even those guys can beat a rape charge
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:54 PM
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but it soon becomes clear that everyone is a villain: the headmistress, the other students at the medical school, etc. Madison should have been a bad apple. She wasn't. She was representative of the other girls at the school
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:43 PM
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the "good guy" was her would-be boyfriend: the pediatric surgeon, woke, sensitive guy who later on turns out to be one of the dudes on the gang rape tape
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 07:41 PM
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the claim the film makes about "rape-culture" are absurd. The headmistress says that she gets rape cases sent to her almost daily, and most of the men in the film are literal rapists. Cassie's little book is filled with hundreds of encounters with predatory men. It is like the bogus Rolling Stone article on steroids. the saving grace of the film is the inadvertent subtext if you go down that rape culture rabbit hole, you are going to discover things you don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:51 PM
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she also made the very critical point of women being feminists in college (aka, sexually liberated, no accountability, sexually adventurous, etc) but then taking on a conservative personae when they get out of college and it becomes time to find a husband. She openly says that "women" (meaning most or all) lie to these potential spouses about their past behavior. Cassie does not contradict her on this, or even object when Madison tries to say that Nina and Cassie were sluts like everyone else. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:47 PM
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but her daughter is a trashy girl: the character is very specifically drawn to be that way (a potential groopie, mini skirt, etc.) of course the headmaster's attitude changes Everyone lies to everyone in that film. Cassie lies to her parents and Ryan. Her friend in the restaurant explains that women routinely lie to their husbands about their sexual pasts --and these sexual pasts aren't simply a few ONS. They might include date-rape, orgies, etc. and the girl in the restaurant ends up blackout d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:08 PM
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that is the surface reading of the film, and I contend that there is a much deeper, more black-pilling reading it isn't simply "all women are victims, all men are rapists, and let's get revenge". That is what it seems like, but there is much more going on there, and some of it is inadvertent the would-be boyfriend, Ryan, isn't just some regular football-watching dude. He is a classic soyboy beta-male, who signals endlessly about female empowerment, how racists (the guy who lives upstairs) are ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:57 PM
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I haven't seen it, but I may check it out tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:45 PM
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as I mentioned elsewhere, the pivotal moment is in the restaurant, where Cassie's old classmate from medical school explains how all the girls were reckless sluts in school, but then lie to their future husbands about all of this. That men love "feminists" in college, but want conservative girls for wives --and you can be both! and it gets better: we know that Cassie's friend gets blackout drunk and ends up with a dude in her room, even though she is "happily" married. So while a film sets out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:41 PM
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I recommend watching the full film: the trailer is very misleading yes, on the surface, it is misanthropic and full of feminist drivel, but the subtext gets to something much deeper the consequences of sexual liberation, feminism, and dishonesty among women and the fact that this stuff allows weak, morally bankrupt, beta males to stalk women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:34 PM
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the endorsement and promotion of drunken hookup culture, sexual liberation, and promiscuity opens the door to date rape and other bad behavior the film touches on this, but seems to miss the point. The critical scene is in the restaurant where a women talks about how all the girls were complete sluts in medical school, engaging in risky, drunken behavior, and pretty much ignoring the bad consequences to themselves and others. Then when they get out of school, they lie to their would-be-husbands,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 04:32 PM
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at age 30, between 5-7 relationships isn't unusual I am married, and my N count is 7. That was plenty, quite frankly. Almost all my relationships were serious and LTRs. When people get to 10+, at least some of those were flings, ONS, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 04:30 PM
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I would say 5-6 is acceptable if it is over 10, there needs to be a really good reason to get with that person
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 03:53 PM
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another example is illegal immigration the practical, logical, and sensible thing is to have strict immigration policies and enforcement, while allowing some immigrants in to find work and settle within our borders. There are obvious drawbacks to unfettered, illegal immigration, such as People from Central America who are unvaccinated, bringing in diseases into our country. One example is XDR-TB, which is very serious and can kill you Hospital systems, housing, and infrastructure getting overwhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:46 PM
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well there are many examples, but let's take a recent one women wearing surgical masks while driving alone in their cars, or while running through forest preserves with no one within 200 meters of them, etc. COVID-19 isn't going to come out of the trees to get them, and it isn't going to go through the windshield of their car. There isn't any scientific purpose in wearing masks in those instances, and it all amounts to social pressure and "consensus thinking"among other women. Doing things that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 07:15 PM
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but those aren't leftist principles. I am talking about collectivism, authoritarianism (centralized planning, nanny state, censorship, etc.), materialism, etc. moderates, capitalists, and all kinds of other people can live just fine in a urban, crowded society, and exercise tolerance, cooperation etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 05:53 PM
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I was a school teacher many years ago (6-8th grade and the high school for a year). It is a feminized space for sure, and kids are bombarded with leftist politics and ideology. It isn't always overt, in that what is NOT taught or discussed, is often as important as what is. Feminized spaces lead to things like Emphasis on social consensus vs. what is logically or scientifically correct. Doesn't matter if you are "right" if the other women in the room don't agree with you. Lack of higher-order pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 02:57 PM
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Unironically using the phrase "unearned privilege". When did PP/RP become some intersectional element of leftist irrationalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:59 PM
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I said a lot more than that. Ambitious would mean a man is content with material things (sports cars, mansions, etc.), not for what is best for him and his society. A Faustian impulse is much more than ambition. Not all men, obviously, but we are talking about quality men here of ability and drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:11 PM
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I'll dumb it down for you next time bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:52 PM
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How to explain this? Well let's consider the man who has achieved great material wealth, and who is respected by many. A guy who has access to women, sports cars, mansions, etc. And yet he is still not satisfied. Because there is always someone who has more than him, and he feels entitled to more by virtue of his abilities --he thinks it is his birthright to have the best. So an attractive woman feels entitled to the best men --not the most men. She feels she deserves compliments from the best a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:31 AM
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Imagine a chick saying "no" to this guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:12 PM
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nah, if I want a girl who is simply hot, I can call an expensive call-girl (which I wouldn't do, and never have) that girl would be much better in bad, AND hot
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:09 PM
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My N count was 7 when I married her. So not a big difference between us, but enough to make me a bit uncomfortable A lot of it was in college, but she did have a number of LTRs, so she wasn't simply sleeping around for 10 years. But she was pretty, well-educated, very cultured and from a good, wealthy family. She was also extremely honest so at the end of the day, she was a catch for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:08 PM
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that matches up with my experience to some degree. The hottest girl I ever dated was a solid 9 (if she had been taller, she would have been a 10). She did not have a big N count, although she had at least a couple short-term encounters. unfortunately, she was terrible in bed, because she was so self-absorbed, and women like that have this idea that it is some kind of privilege to be with them. that being said, her N count was probably around 5 at age 24. Average girls I dated, or somewhat pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:49 AM
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and a lot of these women are involved with more than one guy at a time. But a lot depends on whether or not they went to college, which is just a big f*** fest for 4 years at the end of the day. I had only 3 girlfriends in college (LTRs), but my wife probably had 5-6 guys at least, including a couple ONS (at least) and that is just normal behavior for college girls. I'm lucky she didn't have 20 dudes in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:38 AM
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Agree 100% I was always a bit nervous and shy around women I really liked and valued. Around the ones I was lukewarm towards, or who were low-hanging fruit, I was extremely confident, outgoing, and snarky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:33 AM
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I can't believe that a man would admit to this without shame, even on the internet. are you just being snarky here? She was 31 when I met her --had boyfriends. Is her N count too high? Sure. Did it cause some issues? To an extent. But after getting the details of the relationships, I worried a lot less. She wasn't getting railed in the bathroom at a Bon Jovi concert. "A woman who has been in a long-term relationship, having sex many multiple times, is going to be deeply emotionally and spiritual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:14 PM
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my wife's N count is between 12-15 (she didn't marry me until she was 32, after we had been dating for a little over a year, so that number isn't surprising) My N count was only 6, but I had LTRs, including one that was 4 years We have been married for 20 years, so there wasn't an issue I put a lot more emphasis on the types of relationships the woman has. Were there a bunch of ONS (big red flag)? Lack of LTRs? (most were hookups). Date Rape? Threesomes? That stuff is a much bigger problem than …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 01:34 AM
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when people don’t like you- it’s about YOU pretty simplistic view of the universe there sweetheart people can dislike you for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with your behavior. They might not like Jews or blacks, might have their own weird issues, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 12:48 AM
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you are completely missing the point and misreading me The scenario is one in which the guy is nice and polite to her friend, but that friend is hostile right out of the gate. It is as if something has happened before the guy got there and what happened was that the previous night, the other dude she was banging walked out the door the friend is both disgusted and jealous, but also feels compelled to keep a distance as to not reveal anything damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:18 AM
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that's what the guy might think --but there could be other reasons which I outlined
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 09:47 PM
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On a side note, I have noticed a few things over my many years of dating when it comes to the "girlfriends" It is a huge red flag if your girl's best female friend is completely dismissive and rude towards you, or acts very strangely, even if you try to be friendly. It typically means your girl has other guys on the side, or you are the side guy --her friend can't hold in her jealousy and disgust, and walks on egg shells because she doesn't want to slip up and reveal the existence of the other g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:01 PM
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What men tell others about sex, and how they really feel about it are two different things. I have known a lot of guys who take this macho "hey, who cares how many guys she has been with, she's traded up with me!" approach, but deep inside they are ashamed of their wife or girlfriend's past. Some are outright disgusted by it. In some cases it is a double-standard. Guys want to sleep around and then tell women they shouldn't do the same. I know a dude who had a big body count, who got with a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:52 PM
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guys learn too late that most women fit that description we need to stop idealizing and romaticizing women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:48 AM
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Women say they have rules, but in reality, they compartmentalize and categorize sex. Everything is contextual. I heave heard this line from women more than once: "I made you wait longer for sex because I really liked you"! OK, I kinda understand, but that means she bangs dudes she lusts after on the first date, without any intention of pursuing a relationship. My wife did this a few times back in college (long before I met her), and when we discussed it, I was like "OK, so at one point you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:22 AM
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Certainly not in my case. I have had a couple female friends who I didn't find attractive, certainly didn't want a romantic relationship with, but I considered good friends. but there might be some truth to this generally
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:25 PM
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Men have nowhere near the access to sex, or the drive for it, than women do. Dudes lie about their encounters, inflate, etc. The average decent-looking chick will have a primary boyfriend and 2-3 dudes on standby, or actively screwing her, and that will go on for years. There are a tiny minority of really promiscuous dudes out there, while women in the top 50% of looks have big N counts almost universally, by the time they are in their late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 02:31 AM
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I think the core of this issue is that a man should not be looking for a business partner (woman who works as a professional), a roommate (chick who is around to help with housework while bringing in some income), or a sex partner. A man should be looking for a wife and mother. he should also be looking for a woman with a low N count, self-control, and feminine qualities. Why? Women who work are far more likely to divorce (29% more likely according to one large study) Women with high N counts be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:44 PM
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"Zero of the feminists I know want this. Can you be more specific about what you are describing?" You experience has been different than mine, but you are also a woman. I have a number of friends whose wives ditched them when the money ran out, they got sick, or the wives simply got bored. Some of these women were committed feminists and had a generally hostile attitude towards men. Other guys I've met, who are in "polyamorous" relationships, etc. are sacrificing their self-respect to appease th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:12 AM
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a tiny fraction of feminists want meaningful LTRs with men. Most want a controlling, one-sided, unbalanced, humiliating sham of of marriage with some pathetic guy. I've seen it so many times, because I do have some "progressive" friends. Hookup culture is hedonistic, narcissistic behavior from girls who don't want to be held accountable for anything. They want their cake and eat it too Both men and women need to show some self-respect and self-control. Those who don't are not entitled to fidelit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 11:35 PM
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Much of what you said is correct, however ... We need to understand why women engage in hookup culture, and what the foundation of this social pressure is. It isn't simply leftist / feminist ideology, it is: Women are taught from an early age that they should not be held accountable for their actions. Consequences are for men only, and LTR and commitments typically involve accountability of some kind. Girls want to be free and also get their hedonistic desires satisfied. Women lack depth and con…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 11:26 PM
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Certainly not. It is my duty and prerogative to provide for the family and to be the one who works withing the business realm. Any marriage that involves the women being more successful professionally, making more money, etc. than the husband, invariably ends in humiliation, cheating (by her), and divorce. It is the highest form of emasculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:48 AM
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To me this indicates that you as a young man were unattractive negative. While every guy here claims to be handsome, I am actually pretty good looking (6'1, 185lbs, in shape, with very good features --only drawbacks are teeth are a bit crooked--can't even tell). Looks were not the issue. I was a bit shy, and more proper than my mates due to my upbringing. Doesn't matter how good you look if you don't put yourself out there. When I got into my 20s I lost the shyness and did quite well with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:17 PM
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A 20+ N count is going to almost guarantee that abortions and STDs were part of the picture. At the very least, HPV. Probably a lot of bad experiences too (date rape, waking up after a bender with some dude she doesn't know, abuse, etc.). yeah, no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:11 PM
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I actually didn't have any ONS. Sure, I fooled around a bit with girls I had met shortly before, but I never bedded a girl on the first night. I just wasn't that kind of guy. ONS demonstrate a lack of self-control, reckless disregard for social norms, and a lack of self-respect (in both sexes). I am older than most here (Gen X), and back in the day, HIV was still a thing. Sex in the bathroom at the disco could land you in the morgue. So that served to control people to some degree. As far as hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 02:55 PM
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My wife has a bigger N count than me. She has 12-15 while I have 7-8. She was 32 when I married her, so that isn't surprising. The number doesn't bother me as much as the fact there were some ONS in there. I know all the details for the most part, and it is nothing shocking, but it still bothers me. Here is the problem: as western guys in this society, we were taught to lower our expectations and our standards. Most of us want the pretty girl with a very low N count (or a virgin), from a good fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:16 AM
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a few of these women probably are sociopathic. Too bad it took my male friends years to figure it out seriously, I was always the guy to give women the benefit of the doubt, but I've been proven wrong over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 12:50 AM
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I have seen it among the people I know. One of the wive literally came right out and told me one night that she was bored and that marriage was like a roommate situation. So she went out and banged a friend of her husband's. Her husband had been a prince to her during the marriage, and they had a 2 year old kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:29 PM
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90% of my guy friends are either divorced, or headed towards divorce (out of a pool of 20 guys, from all walks of life). Most recently, a guy I know who is suffering from cancer, and probably won't live another five years, was told by his wife "I'm having an affair, and I want a divorce". They have 5 kids, a big house, and he was always a prince to her. In the last 10 years I've seen nothing but absolute garbage behavior from my friend's wives. Cheating, lying, disrespect, divorce raping. Now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:12 PM
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I think this is generally correct But I do think one interesting thing needs to pointed out about men who strive to be comprehensively "Alpha":they are always a adversary and never an ally. They will either lead other men or subvert other men --and it is usually the latter. They are the guys who will try to sleep with your wife or daughter. The dudes who will steal money from your company or hijack trade secrets and bring them to another firm for a payday. Cultural and ideological constraints se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 01:02 AM
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I have looked over the FDS stuff and their supporting documentation I think most of it is OK quite frankly, and generally good advice. For instance: Avoiding guys who put in low effort. Absolutely --screw those dudes. Showing lack of effort and imagination right out of the gate is a bad sign. Don't move in with your boyfriend? Good advice. Unless you are engaged, that is a stupid thing to do. In a nutshell, the FDS scene is for women who want a more formal, traditional dating scene, and that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 12:04 AM
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The only way this works is if there is ZERO possibility of sexual attraction. If one person is obese and ugly, it can work. I have a female friend I've known for almost 30 years. There was never any attraction because she is overweight and our SMVs are very different. But two good-looking people having a platonic relationship? Eventually something is going to happen. Emotional connections lead to physical desire, or conflicted feelings at the very least. A few drinks are consumed one night, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:12 AM
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she is totally degenerate --but probably a lot of fun lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 12:55 AM
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Lindsay Lohan
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 11:49 PM
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no, it just isn't important from a male perspective, we are the ones who have to slog away in the corporate world to provide for our families. I don't want my women to have to be in that crappy environment --she has more important things to worry about, such as family, children, the household, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:50 AM
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As a general rule, men should never "open up" to women, unless it is their wife, and that wife is 100% reliable Women hate emotional men. They want icebergs Opening up to them is like throwing emotions at a fucking black hole, and will yield bad results. Men must find their kameraden, their reliable mates, and it is to them that these emotional issues are directed In some ways, I can understand gay dudes. They don't have to deal with the shallow, superficial deserts that comprise women's interio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:17 AM
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well here is the thing: if I were a very famous guy, and handsome --a dude that could get any woman he wanted ...my N count would be very LOW I can have all the McDonalds I want, and most chicks out there simply want to get with me for all the wrong reasons the challenge would be to find a girl who is authentic, sweet, and of high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:41 PM
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Well to address some of this stuff directly: ​ "If she makes money, she’s a ball busting “careerist”. I don't need a business partner, I need a wife and mother. I can handle the financial end of things and provide. "If she doesn’t make money & had kids at a young age, she’s gold digging and waiting for her next". If you mean single mother looking for a man, I will say outright that she is not marriage material. Men pay little to no attention to someone else's failed project, and they certainly d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:35 PM
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well I would also add that men have the terrible habit of judging women on the standards and capricious opinions of other men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:43 AM
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And this is exactly why women fail in relationships. They succumb to mimetic desire and want men that other women find desirable, even if that man is lacking in fundamental ways Women are terrible judges of character and quality, and are frequently motivated by vapid and shallow things. This is a cultural thing for the most part. I know a girl who wrecked her life by not marrying the man her male friends admired and liked. She tells me 20 years later that he was the one that got away, the one sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:38 AM
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Generally speaking, women who are "provided for" and getting what they want, on material terms, from a relationship feel less need to monkey-branch to someone else. Likewise, even if a girl is earning a decent salary, she will feel entitled to a man's lifestyle and economic prospects (hypergamy). As long as the future is bright, she sticks around. Men date down and women date up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 02:47 PM
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My buddy did his psychology dissertation on some of these issues and found the following (was a pretty big study) The most promiscuous women were the most attractive ones AND the least. If we rate looks from 1-10, it was something like this 9-10: 4-5 times the average number of lifetime sex partners 7-8: 2-3 times the number 4-6: 1/2 the average 2-3: 2-3 time the number 1-2: 1/8th the number if the average is around 8 --- That being said, from my private life, I had different results / experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 03:43 PM
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come on now consider all your female friends, their behavior, and their N counts. Tell me they haven't racked up decent numbers and are very sexually active if that isn't the case, I would be very surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 02:01 PM
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OK let's cut the bullshit and get to the heart of the matter women don't want to reveal their N count and history, because it lowers the chances of fidelity and interest of the guy they are with In other words, the bigger the slut, the less the commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:18 AM
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The problem is, must women HAVE had party years. This doesn't make it right And it isn't even a handful of partners in college. It is 1-2 dozen guys over 10 years. If you have only a few partners before marriage, I salute you. You did the right thing the rest of us have to live with decreased expectations, guilt, and remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:06 AM
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The problem is, must women HAVE had party years. This doesn't make it right And it isn't even a handful of partners in college. It is 1-2 dozen guys over 10 years. If you have only a few partners before marriage, I salute you. You did the right thing the rest of us have to live with decreased expectations, guilt, and remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:05 AM
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The problem is, must women HAVE had party years. This doesn't make it right And it isn't even a handful of partners in college. It is 1-2 dozen guys over 10 years. If you have only a few partners before marriage, I salute you. You did the right thing the rest of us have to live with decreased expectations, guilt, and remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 03:05 AM
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Effeminate Neo-Marxist degeneracy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 12:38 AM
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Yes, but women have much higher N counts than men and much greater access to sex (pay no attention to nonsense "studies" that claim otherwise) and guys can't get pregnant, have abortions, etc. Likewise, as I mentioned, men are a lot more straightforward about their sexual and even social histories. Women lie, understate, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 06:59 PM
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When I say dark secrets, I mean things like abortions, threesomes and other reckless sexual behavior, bunch of ONS, FWBs, abusive relationships or assaults, or even stuff like prostitution and stints in rehab. High N count figures in, but other stuff is more concerning. Some of that stuff can be excused, but a guy has to take into account the whole picture. If it looks bad, next her and get with a woman of quality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:31 PM
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that isn't the norm by any means. Sure, there are some perverted guys out there with dark secrets, but the women I've known have a whole lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 10:28 PM
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If I were an attractive single women, I know exactly what I would do: When looking for a prospect, avoid low-quality men by placing myself in situations where high-value, cultured men can be found. Stop hanging out in dive bars and clubs. Start going to cultural events (museum events, gallery openings, classical music concerts, operas, plays, or maybe political/ideological events). Actively make myself available to guys who are more reserved or even a bit shy, but demonstrate excellent qualities…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 03:09 PM
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I don't know who told you that women who pursue men are considered low value Sure, if a girl throws herself indiscriminately at guys, but If a girl sees a great, high-value guy that would make an excellent mate, and makes herself available to him, gives subtle hints, and makes a general plan to get with him --well that is just good strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 02:47 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:08 PM
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I think he means that if a women did sexual acts with previous boyfriends, more than once, that both of them enjoyed, and now doesn't do it, that is where the problem is. If some girl had anal once and hated it, or it just didn't work at all, very few guys are going to expect her to do it again. But if she used to get railed in the butt and liked it, and now wants to pretend she is prudish about such things, she clearly values the new guy less. so it is contextual, but not hard to figure out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:38 PM
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What if you were dating a guy and he didn't perform oral on you. You asked him about it and he said "I used to do it a while back, but wasn't crazy about it, so I stopped. Sorry". Maybe not completely equivalent to anal, but considering almost 50% of women have done that these days, it isn't far off you would likely feel that his previous girlfriends got to experience some exciting things that are denied you. See how this works?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:34 PM
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I agree, an would also add that if you are with a chick who has had threesomes, especially involving other women, look out she is going to get bored really fast if she is coming from a sex life that looks like something out of the movie Caligula. So unless you are planning on swinging in the hot tub with sketchy people, watching your girl sniff around other women, etc., better move on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 02:23 PM
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I don't think a particular act is a "deal breaker". That being said, there is pretty vanilla stuff out there that is pretty much expected these days, such as oral but guys do get a bit worried if their girlfriends did sexually adventurous things with previous boyfriends that they won't do with them. If you are in a serious relationship, and are committed to give your lover pleasure and sexual fulfillment, that should be your goal (within reason). Holding back, making excuses for not doing certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:49 PM
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until they hit the wall, and then they are lucky to land a guy on their level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 02:02 AM
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nah, I have my own money (plenty)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:24 PM
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No, I married above my station in life, into a prestigious family. I insisted she keep her name
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 11:12 PM
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As if all right-men are assholes or Trump supporters lol. Nice generalization I hang with a very right-wing crowd, and most of my buddies are high quality men who treat their women well, are focused on the family, reliable, etc. Most of them are cultured and intellectual. They don't sit around and watch pro sports, yell at their women, get into brawls at Walmart, etc. There is no point in marrying a woman who prioritizes her career over having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 05:07 PM
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Grace Kelly was an epic babe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:55 PM
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In terms of looks, there are many: Heida Reed certainly comes to mind, along with Antje Traue, Sylvia Hoeks, or Rose Leslie She would be very pretty but not over-the-top beautiful or intimidating in appearance. She is not flashy. personality must consist of feminine sweetness mixed with inner strength and conviction. She is pleasant to be around, charismatic and charming, but not attention-seeking, and never grandstands. She is eloquent and witty (think Emma), but principled and firm (think Eliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:51 PM
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this is an excellent post, and is so true I was that second dude one time (that I know of). Fortunately, I was a bit suspicious from the start, based on the girl's behavior. Nevertheless, I got sucked in One week she sent me this awesome love-letter, with a Yeats poem inside, some art, etc. That weekend I gave her a call, and her ex-boyfriend answered the phone women can lie at levels men cant even dream of, and they convince themselves that it is justified--they believe their own lies. so like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 04:02 PM
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oh she won't bring the other guy up around the new boyfriend but when I am alone with her, she immediately starts asking questions about the dude who rejected in her. A combination of "how is he doing? What is he up to"? And complaints about him it is really sad actually, because the new guy is a good dude --he just doesn't know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:40 PM
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yes, men can be alpha-widowed as well I thought about "the one who got away" for like 10 years afterwards --and I never even slept with the girl. It can happen
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 03:37 PM
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These are good suggestions for sure, and I generally like Alexander's stuff. But going into a little more detail about having options and avoiding oneitis is necessary ONE: No women under the age of 28 (unless she is from a very religious background) is looking for commitment on any level from a man, despite what they might say. Mimetic desire means that your worth as a partner to her, is contingent on the desire other women have for you, and is in accordance with your perceived quality. No woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 03:34 PM
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I think we have to worry about both these things, but only when they are taken to excessive degrees. For instance: Every woman is driven to marry someone above her in social class, appearance, and quality. There isn't anything wrong with that. Women want the best possible provider for her children and herself. bu this becomes an issue when women start monkey branching from LTRs or even their husbands to other men they perceive as higher quality. While men who have extra-marital affairs are typic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 02:59 PM
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have you actually engaged in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:54 PM
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what is mmfs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 06:27 PM
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I don't think it is always about sex, and in cases of infidelity, it is rarely about that Guys, sex is easy. It is basic. Sure, it is fun, but that is not what moves me or makes me think about love. Sure, it is important, and it should be good. But again, it is easy, and it serves as a shield, or a screen over what is really important people use sex to avoid other issues. And people who cheat, are not typically looking for a good lay --they are looking for someone to connect with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 11:03 PM
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I met a fair number of manipulative, dishonest women (both with themselves and others). Even if they weren't manipulative, they played games, were often vague, had other guys in their orbit, whatever. That is pretty much the norm But when I met my wife, I was pleased to find a girl who was completely straightforward, very honest, zero games, no sketchy dudes in her orbit, etc. they do exist, but it isn't easy to find one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 07:25 PM
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but did you have anal with past boyfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:51 PM
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well that can happen for sure, but you can then pay attention to their behavior you can also follow up on some of this stuff as time goes by. If the chick is a tramp, you will figure it out pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 06:49 PM
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Some guys don't care about sexual history. Even other guys like a very "experienced" girl The key is to be 100% honest and transparent. Never pretend to be something you are not, mislead him, trickle-truth if he asks questions, etc. I had a buddy who dated a chick who called herself an "ethical slut". Full-on polyamorous chick with like a N count of 100+. Would go to burning man and have sex the whole time. Threesomes, whatever. But she told him upfront about all of it, and said "this is the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 05:50 PM
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Low-value people sleep around. Period. Both men and women. Now guys will object and say some shit like "he is a boss because he beds lots of chicks"! But the problem with that is the behavior is culturally damaging, sets a bad example for women to follow, and creates distortions in the dating market One thing I recommend is to have an honest, early conversation with a girl you are interested in about sexual expectations. This doesn't need to be an interrogation about her N count, but you should …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 03:02 PM
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perfect analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:47 PM
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I don't think there is any problem with this at all, unless it involves sleeping around, leading people on, lying, etc. Back in my late 20s, I was in the midst of taking a few women out. Went on 2-3 dates with them, but finally settled on the one I liked best. Ended up marrying her It is fine for women to have multiple suitors if she is high-quality. I have a female friend who just turned 32, but is pretty cute and charming. She has decided she needs to find a husband and have kids, so she went …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 12:38 AM
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Sometimes a female friend will compliment my looks, but I can't remember a stranger doing it I was at a party recently, and a dude I met saw me and said "hey I remember that guy! Good looking dude! ...not gay, just pointing it out" I was amused
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:35 PM
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Among my married friends, the number of women that cheated vs. men is triple (that I know of) But these women were not particularly good at it. They got sloppy and exposed quickly. One even tried to cheat at a camping trip, in the woods with another dude, while her husband was 500 meters away Nevertheless, most of my friends are happily married (with varying degrees of quality) My wife and I both have a different set of friends for the most part. If we wanted to cheat, we absolutely could. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 02:25 PM
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That hasn't been my experience at all. I have a buddy who is 54 and he is dating a 20 year old I get a lot of attention from women 15-20 years younger than me it depends on how you look (I'm in shape, the same weight I was at age 18, dress well, relatively handsome) and how you carry yourself. Also depends on your socioeconomic status. Mine is very high
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 01:15 PM
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yes, a number of them told me they were barebacking. Sure, they were on the pill, but that was it. Even then, the pill was sometimes not used One ended up with HPV, and two others got knocked up and had abortions even my wife wasn't using condoms between age 18-30. I was one of the only guys ever to use condoms with her, and I didn't find that out until recently. I was like "what the fu** were you thinking"? Fortunately, she didn't end up with any STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:28 PM
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That was the standard, but not anymore because of dating apps and social media, women decide exactly which men even have the opportunity to contact them, much less date them this means that women define the aesthetic standards, the planning of dates, the number of partners, everything men who had opportunities to find a nice girl in the past are completely frozen out of this digital universe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:49 PM
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people aren't using condoms I was talking with my buddy the other day about this: we were like the only guys who used condoms on a regular basis back in the day. Most of my female friends have been on the pill, used a diaphram, etc., so they were barebacking through their 20s. This was a shock to me, as I grew up in the days of HIV. It is the woman's responsibility to protect herself from that stuff, but again, they don't want to be held accountable, and want to do whatever they want. Thus the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:52 PM
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if your female friends are college-educated, and they are telling you they have had 5-7 sex partners in their lives at age 28, they are probably lying. Even if a chick has 2-3 LTRs since age 18, after losing her virginity, and then averages 1-2 partners a year, she is going to finish in double-digits. Women are incapable of being alone, and need the constant affirmation of a boyfriend (or partner of some kind) I took a girl's virginity when she was 21. We had a 3 year relationship. By the time s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 01:38 PM
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how old are your friends? I am talking about women in their mid to late 20s, not college students. What i their N count at 28-30 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:51 AM
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12+ is on the high end? Of all the women I know (and have some knowledge of their sexual history), 10-12 is the average. This isn't one group of women --it is women from all walks of life (but mostly white and middle-class) now there were outlying cases. There were a couple women who had only been with 1-2 guys by the time they were 28. But there was one chick who had an N count of 100+ (I kid you not). Most had a N count of between 8-12. Research has shown the average number to be 7.2 for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 03:24 AM
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I don't think this is something new. I dated a girl for a few years when I was in my 20s, off-and-on. I ultimately broke up with her, because I realized she was thrill-seeking, and looked at people like ice-cream flavors, or something to try (after our initial period of dating, not only did she date other guys, but also women, black women, Asian, etc. --a pattern became clear)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 09:12 PM
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I am a married guy, and I've also had some decent LTRs To make marriage work, the girl HAS to be your best friend, or something equivalent. In other words, your relationship has to go way beyond romance, sex, etc. You have to have similar values, ideology, character, and trust each other 100%. I only know one other guy in my life besides me that has that kind of relationship with his wife. It is rare My wife never gets in the way of my hobbies, and also enjoys some of them. If I say I am going o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:56 PM
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the only reason for being evasive, silent, or dishonest about your previous relationships and sexual behavior is because you have something to hide. I think the only women I asked about her sexual history was my future wife. The others either had pretty obvious histories, or weren't worth asking. Guys who don't have standards, or don't seem to care about your behavior or reputation, are typically not Mr. Right. High N counts before marriage correlate with a higher divorce rate and higher unhappi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:47 PM
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This is correct for the most part Online dating has changed female selection behavior to some degree. Most of what I was talking about is behavior IRL. but the orbiting stuff is good advice. While I support having friendships with girls (many times they have cute friends you can get with), never become an orbiter, and never do anything for them their boyfriend should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:51 PM
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Modern feminism has convinced women that the only standard of behavior they need to follow is that which gives them pleasure and affirmation. If such behavior is questionable, the woman respond with "don't you dare judge me". There is no sense of duty to culture or society. To make matters worse, feminism has instilled in women a contempt for the dominant western culture However, women have a biological, instinctual, and cultural duty towards their children, and they are also prone to nurture of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:40 PM
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I think a lot depends on what happened in those 2 months Nevertheless, no one expects perfection or entirely consistent behavior from young people. Most people act recklessly to some degree when they are young, but it is all a matter of degree There are guys who go to jail for armed robbery at age 20: they are considered adults by the court. Arguing that their brains were not fully developed, will not work Some women have experienced trauma, and it does affect their behavior. But many other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 05:06 PM
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I didn't say the studies were worthless, or that confirmation bias wasn't a thing There may be some accuracy with the studies, but many of them have different outcomes, methodologies, etc., and like I said: both women and men lie --this is understood. Lying means that you don't have good data. So my purpose in looking at what I see around me is to encourage people to not only look beyond the studies, but also RP theory in general. Is any of this stuff playing our IRL? How so? The second part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:58 PM
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mimetic desire is not pre selection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:21 PM
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I think that is generally correct However, the standards of physical attractiveness, or even desirability, are not fixed or objective. A man is attractive to a woman because he is attractive to other women, and/or admired by other men. Even a short guy with relatively average looks, but with many other good qualities that makes him a leader among men, will attract women. Now women will biologically desire strapping dudes, but that doesn't mean they will throw themselves at them (some do). It isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:21 PM
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Remember that Hypergamy is very logical and rational, as well as biological of course women want to marry above themselves to a man that is a good provider, because as women grow older, they begin to think in terms of off spring, family, etc. As long as that doesn't degenerate into outright gold-digging, it really isn't an issue. But I really think the whole AB/BB thing is overstated and simplistic. There is some truth to it for sure, but the motivations women have are in many cases different, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 02:45 PM
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true, and this is why I break with the idea that having platonic female friends is a bad idea. It isn't, as long as you are not orbiting them, or expect anything from them Another girl will say "they really like that guy, I wonder ..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 02:42 PM
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A FWB situation is like an extended ONS with even more cynicism and hedonism I judge the behavior of both men and women --this isn't about slut-shaming. If my guy friends are sleeping around, I tell them to cut it out. And yes, I do understand that people change and grow up --my wife did. But you say you were "hypersexual" for a period in the past, and did a bunch of damage. That demonstrates a lack of self-awareness, impulse-control, accountability, etc. How is a guy to know you aren't going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 01:34 PM
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I know a guy who interrogates women virtually on the first date, and they almost never object. They end up in bed with him anyway. Why? He is tall, handsome, has some money, and is assertive when did women care about a guy's character or principles exactly? In the vast majority of cases, women don't care about "who you are", they care about how you make them look, and what you can give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:07 AM
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anonymous forum, so I'm not sure how any of this is dirt, and it certainly isn't wank material. Did you read the responses? If you don't want to discuss this stuff, go to another subreddt
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 12:01 AM
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Let me give the real, honest answer, instead of the feminist talking-points on this A man will typically ask a woman about her sexual history under two circumstances If he is very serious about the relationship, and thinks of her as a potential wife. He is going to want to know if there is anything bad in the past, or skeleton-in-the-closet, that will become a problem later. Something that could embarrass him, lead him to question her character, etc. Stuff like sleeping with married men, FWB sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:53 PM
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Not to psycho-analyze you, but my take here is that you have a desperate need to be in control, and some self-esteem issues FWB and ONS because you can't commit, want to call the shots, and get with low-quality men because you can make them go away quickly The oral sex is off limits because it involves some submission
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:39 PM
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We I can answer for myself to start with: a) You keep secret, or on the down-low? Never needed to keep my sex-life, N-count, etc. a secret. All my sex partners were in relationships that lasted at least 3 months, and a couple that lasted a couple years. Other guys would probably say they had some short-term encounters with very skanky women b) Might freak-out your boyfriend (especially if he is a candidate for marriage)? Before getting married, my sex-life was relatively tame. No threesomes, pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:37 PM
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that could be the case, although she is very honest about everything, so I suspect it isn't too much higher than she says
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:30 PM
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I have seen this as well. A lot of my married guy friends are married to women who have double or triple the N count the guy has (usually double) This isn't always a problem, BUT It instills in men a kind of FOMO, and maybe even resentment. She got to run wild, have her fun, etc. while the guy had to work hard to find the right girl, and had periods of scarcity. No guy likes a situation in which his LTR or wife has a significantly higher N count
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:15 PM
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Go ahead and post it to the guys, or maybe I will but the answers are going to be a lot different
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:11 PM
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if I want fap material, I'll go read some erotic fiction or look at porn and blackmail? no real names being used here, so that is pretty silly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:09 PM
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yeah, I won't lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 09:16 PM
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well it depends ... for short-term relationship, or ones that don't have any kind of prospects, bisexual women are fine. I dated one in my 20s. For LTRs and marriage, it is a fool's endeavor. A women who wants to bang other women is never going to be satisfied with just a guy. She will be chronically unhappy and eventually ditch him. If they are married, he will get divorce-raped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:31 PM
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Not that hung up on it I am redpilled enough to distinguish fantasy vs. reality, and to limit my expectations when it comes to this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:14 PM
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The purpose of this thread is not to shame people I am simply curious about perceptions regarding past experiences, misconceptions about the sex lives of women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:12 PM
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Fortunately, the marriage is very good. I didn't care about the N count nearly as much as the ONS. I think that is because I didn't do one-night stands in my 20s,on the grounds that it was treating people like objects, demonstrated poor-impulse control, was risky, and I certainly didn't want any women I ended up with engaging in them. Some guys totally don't care. Other guys are hugely bothered by it. In my wife's case, since it happened along time ago, and she was young, I can put it out of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:08 PM
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never do oral? that is interesting ... I've only encountered one woman ever who refused to give oral (not a girlfriend, just a friend who was telling me this) what is the reason for not doing it? I can see if you were very religious or strict about sex, but you have had FWBs, hookups, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:04 PM
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why was the NFL player experience traumatic? What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:25 PM
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was curious if this was some racial fetish thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:16 PM
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are you black? That is a pretty extreme secret. Have any boyfriends freaked out after you told them that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 05:58 PM
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Is this because your sexual history is very limited, vanilla, etc.? Or is it because you are your partners aren't freaked out about anything, and are sexually liberated?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 04:20 PM
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when western women start acting like gay men, we have a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 02:36 AM
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I am 48, and I get more attention now from women than I ever did. I stay in good shape, have somewhat youthful looks, a touch of grey, and a lot of money and confidence I have a buddy who is 46 and he bangs women in their 20s on a regular basis
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 11:09 PM
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you are 100% correct. As men, we should be guided by principles and what we expect of ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:08 PM
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It depends what you are hoping for ... Marriage involves sacrifice, but it also yields benefits. Having children is good, a stable home, combined assets, tax breaks, and family connections, etc. If you want to continue your genetic legacy and continue your race and culture, getting married and having kids is a kind of duty men must accept (the Tradcon view) But marriage also involves a man giving up his whole romantic life for the 10 best years of a woman's life, and those 10 best years were pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:05 PM
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this is an excellent point. And I would add that we should be honest with ourselves when it comes to cheating and dishonesty. If we stubbornly adhere to rigid standards of duty and morality, we can find ourselves adrift very quickly. It is how we respond to such temptations that is important
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 03:29 AM
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Concern about high N counts has been an issue for me a few times. I broke up with a girl one time after she made remarks at dinner about having a lot of previous conquests / partners, and also doing coke in the past. Later that night, I told her she embarrassed me, and broke up with her. Back in the day, a high N count could also be scary because of things like HIV. Getting with a skanky girl could shorten your life. My wife's N count is quite a bit higher than mine (12-15 vs. my 7). It bothers …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:07 PM
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Some of what you say is true. This crowd does tend to be risk-averse, and even a little paranoid. But I would clarify some things: It is to women's benefit, and certainly something consistent with modern feminism, to suggest that sexual history doesn't, and shouldn't *matter*. Women will say it is just jealousy and insecurity, but it is perfectly rational to object to promiscuity for the following reasons: Men want a woman they can be proud of, and who doesn't have a "reputation". A guy doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:23 PM
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I am in my 40s, and I've known a lot of women over the years. For many of them, I know quite a bit about their sexual histories as well, including N counts. So I did a little exercise and record their names and numbers. There were a couple extreme cases (one chick had at least 30 partners, another had only 1), but out of the 12 women I could record, the average N count was 11. Now that is what I *knew* about. The number is likely higher. I was reading some studies and surveys this morning, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 02:16 PM
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It isn't just her red hair, it is her overall look she looks like a walking WIlliam Waterhouse painting. That is in a way exotic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:33 PM
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I saw Rose Leslie in person at a hotel. With her ocean of flaming hair, perfect features, aquamarine eyes, and her elegant figure, she is other-worldly beautiful but that is ethnic preference. I am of Nordic, Mari, Irish stock, so I am attracted to that She is exotic because I don't know anyone who looks like her lol But men from other ethnic groups may be unimpressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:45 PM
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A vast majority of men have no interest in fashion models at all. Those women are a gay man's idea of what a girl should look like (rail thin, androgynous, pouting look) I don't even like Victoria's Secret models very much. They look like malnourished 17 year old girls, and some have implants Most guys really love women who have either an athletic build (more meat) and "girl next door face" (Katie Sackoff, Alicia Vikander, Antjie Traue) or extremely feminine, delicate, but natural-looking women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:22 PM
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I think there is some truth to this, although I don't think it is just porn. Aesthetics and beauty standards for women have changed, and we regularly see chicks who are airbrushed on the web, with gobs of makeup on. Another factor is fitness. There are a lot of in-shape women out there who are actually using steroids or even HGH to get freakishly cut, with big, muscular asses. Certain things have always been attractive, such as full-lips, large eyes, high cheek bones, a round ass, etc. Other thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:07 PM
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Having a set of rules for opposite-sex relationships is important. It protects both man and wife. No meetings along with opposite sex friends. No coffee meetups, dinners, etc. That is just common sense No one-on-one texting (in most circumstances) No one-on-one emails
/r/RPChristians08/09/20 02:44 PM
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Look at it like interviewing for a important job, or starting a career. If you are highly qualified and a desirable candidate, you can get into a lucrative position at a prestigious firm. If you lack qualifications, have trouble relating to people, etc., you can get a job, but it will be for a lousy company. In other words, you can find a high-quality wife if you have the qualifications, drive, and background to land her. Same with women (or should be). If you are a high-quality woman with a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:30 PM
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This confirms what I was saying a few days ago: When looking for casual encounters (young women do this), women go for dumb Joeys with masculine features and aggressive personalities. Predictable guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 11:39 PM
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Neither men, nor women, should sleep around. It demonstrates poor impulse control, lack of character, and is culturally damaging. Sure, we should have meaningful relationships, sex, and enjoy each other, but hedonistic sleeping around is bad news Just as a man should reject a promiscuous women, a woman should reject a man who can't keep it in his pants
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:57 PM
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Well I think that is true for guys as well. There are some women who I find irresistible, even though their looks are flawed, or they might not be the prettiest girl in the room Charisma, assertiveness, charm, all these things are super important I had buddies who did much better than me with women when I was in my 20s, even though I was much better looking. My older brother looks like Henry Cavill, and I inherited some of that (tall, broad-shoulders, symmetrical features, thick, wavy hair, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:52 PM
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Yes, more white women voted for Trump than Hillary but we will see what happens this time around. The western man has lost his woman. She no longer advocates for him, no longer supports him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 09:40 PM
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Ideally, the interests of the family and the society / nation, should be aligned to some degree. But when upper-middle-class women who live in gated communities in Vermont vote for open borders, it is a good example of leftist signaling at the expense of others living in the country. Or in Europe, when women almost unanimously supported opening the floodgates to economic and political refugees from war-torn countries: guys with minimal education, sketchy backgrounds (Salafist radicals, gang memb…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:11 PM
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I don't think it is quite as bad as you say (25-50% of women being abused). But yes, it does rule out quite a few women This gets into the issue of guys who feel they need to "save women" or make things right. This was my terrible fault, and maybe still is. That through the power of my will, my ambition, and my resources, I can set everything straight. The red pill, or maybe the black pill, tells me, and every other guy, that you can't put the sculpture back together again, and you cannot turn a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 11:32 PM
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what are the two deal breakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:28 PM
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some experience: dated a girl for almost 2 months way back when. Ended up in bed one night, and she wouldn't reciprocate. Basically froze in the middle of it. Then gave me the story of how she was molested as a kid. I simply said "sounds like you are not ready for a relationship", and ended it right there. Stopped calling her. As for the N count thing, I didn't date girls with big body counts when I was in my early 20s. But when I got into my late 20s, I was with a couple--they had major issues:…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:11 PM
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I don't believe in egalitarianism. People are not equal, nor should they be Now that doesn't mean women are not people. Women have great value, but also have different prerogatives and responsibilities than men. Some women will have to work, but most should focus on family and domestic life. Voting should be limited to one vote per family, as to make sure both husband and wife are on the same page, and voting for the interests of the nation, not free birth control. Women are not loyal to nation,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 06:29 PM
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Rape and/or abuse isn't something I want to take on. The girl is going to have huge trust and intimacy issues. As far as a N count over 10 for a young women, it simply demonstrates lack of self-control, impulsiveness, and bad upbringing. Leads to bigger problems down the road. Now that being said, I don't think guys should be sleeping around either, largely for the same reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:57 PM
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If you are a loving and loyal wife who takes care of your man, I wouldn't classify you as a hardcore feminist The feminists I'm talking about, view family structures as "oppressive, patriarchal, hierarchies", generally dislike and distrust men, have contempt for western culture and traditional forms of art, constantly claim victimhood, and look to the state to provide for them. They are self-hating and disfunctional. so it isn't about "equality" (men and women are equal under the law). It is abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:56 PM
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better for a man to be single than date, or heaven-forbid, marry a card-carrying feminist. That just leads to aggravation, embarassment, and divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:29 PM
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Let's say the girl is reasonably attractive. In that case: IMMEDIATE DEAL-BREAKER (would never date, no matter how hot): Past history of sexual abuse / rape Leftist politics and ideology Lots of tats Baby from a past boyfriend Divorced Heavy smoker Consistent pot smoker Very large N count (20+) Can't have kids, or doesn't want them POTENTIAL DEAL-BREAKER / RED FLAGS (might date, but would be cautious): High N count (10+), especially if she is younger (under 25) Liberal and/or feminist leanings (…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:25 PM
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this 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 02:57 PM
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I have a few female friends, but with mixed results I've been friends with one girl for 4-5 years, but things recently went sour. I caught her lying about things on a few occasions, and even keeping some information from me that would have been important. Also got tired of her constantly talking about herself, or redirecting the conversation back to her own troubles. Typical, self-absorbed woman So while guys can be friends with women, never depend on them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 05:19 PM
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I posted on this a while back and some of the guys here got all butt-hurt because they have a misconception about what constitutes a quality guy, or even an alpha guy. I don't like to use the term "Alpha", because it really doesn't mean anything, and doesn't relate to SMV or quality. Some muscle-bound loser Joey who wears a baseball cap in a nice restaurant and is an overbearing loudmouth can be considered "Alpha" by some definitions here, but that isn't a quality guy. Quality men are Traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:58 PM
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The problem with the *bad men* is that it is a short-term, effective, strategy, but in the long term it fails. I say this as an older guy who had those *bad guy* friends. Sure, they got laid more than me in their 20s, but they ultimately ended up with garbage wives, and a couple got divorced raped. Bad boys attract low quality women, even if some of these women are physically hot. Now that doesn't mean being some submissive, cucky, "nice guy" is the answer either. Simply treat yourself and your …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:50 PM
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well there is plenty of pussy out there --that isn't the issue. Plenty of low-quality, yet pretty, women. None of them marriage or LTR material.All of them will ditch you at a moment's notice, or monkey branch. The short game is easy --the long game is another matter entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 03:17 AM
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It is both these things Men are frustrated and unmotivated. What is out there for them at this point? Some shitty job in a cubicle? Struggling to make ends meet while supporting a family? Materialistic, hollow culture? Which leads to a lot of low-quality men And yes, there are a lot of decent looking women with "good careers". Like any quality guy wants a women with a "career"? Which basically means some chick who will neglect her kids and run around with the first chad she encounters at work? C…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 03:00 AM
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Yes, I think that is correct. Women are not typically "pushed to the edge", because for them, the edge is much farther away than for men So I don't mean to say that woman cannot, by virtue of biology, "feel deeply", and produce profound art. Rather it is culture, ideology, and society that holds them back
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:10 AM
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I agree with this to some extent, and would add the following: I don't think women are "more emotional" or always prone to use emotions instead of reason. Women know exactly what they are doing, and many are pragmatic. Women cry because water-power gets results and sympathy. Women do not have the depth of feeling that men do--not even close. Their emotive states are superficial and ephemeral. Men can feel things at a deep level and be profoundly moved by something aesthetic or dramatic. I can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 10:38 PM
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I am an extremely trad guy, and I have dated a number of women who were pretty left-wing, edgy, non-traditional All of them knew what my political and ideological leanings were, but they chose to get with a guy they could look up to and respect, vs. some wimpy leftist guy with no backbone or drive. I even told one of these Goth girls that I thought there should be one vote per married household, and that women should stay home with the kids. She protested a bit, but didn't break up with me. Thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 10:20 PM
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I didn't say all women wanted ripped, stupid Joeys, or predictable dudes My wife didn't marry me because I was one of those guys But a lot of women want low-effort, simple, yet physically pleasing guys. The same is true for a lot of men: they want hot girls who don't say much, and do what they are told My point is, don't mistake "Alpha" for one of these dudes, and don't think that a real leader-of-men, is something a woman wants
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 01:29 PM
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my point was that guys who are legitimately smart, intellectual, well-read, and driven, are not easily controlled and manipulated and I don't mean some soyboy who reads Das Capital and likes Ansel Adams, Men that are far above the woman intellectually and culturally may intimidate her. Dumb Joeys who just want titties and beer are another matter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:57 PM
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I don't think men should be players and sleep around bad for our culture and society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:54 PM
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to women they can be. Not other guys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 06:41 PM
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I think it is misleading to say women (or many women) date assholes over nice guys, or even dudes that aren't complete dbags. It is more complicated than that. Many women go for dudes who have the following characteristics: Good looks (muscles, height, etc.) Very limited interests, or basic goals (clubbing, lifting weights, sports, maybe fishing and guns). An outspoken and forward personality Very predictable, stereotypical behavior Uncultured (guys who read books, go to art museums and operas, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:43 PM
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agreed, but remember that women lie all the time about their sex lives. They lie about their N count, things they did in the past, and what was enjoyable vs. what they didn't like. They also lie about sexual assault. 80% of the times a chick says "I tried that with Mark [Chad] but didn't really like it. Don't want to do it with you", it can be translated as "the experience was OK, and I though it was important to do it to please Mark [Chad], but I don't feel like expending the effort on you"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:21 PM
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Only once that I know of, and it was brutal piece of deception but I didn't get all black-pilled and butt-hurt. I didn't expect a whole lot from women in those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:21 AM
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nah, a woman would think the guy boring in bed. It makes matters worse if his dick is a few inches shorter than some jocker in her past I'm now talking about sexual discomfort--the OP, and myself, are talking about the deliberate witholding of sexual experience from lovers we don't feel we need to please. I will let you in on a little secret. I've had a beautiful girlfriend (she was a solid 9 --full-on Kiera Knightly gorgeous) who was bad in bed. Too self-absorbed and immature. And I've had a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:12 PM
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Back in the day, when girls didn't have huge N counts and slutty back-stories, this wasn't much of an issue. Inexperienced, beautiful, virginal girls get to call the shots. Sluts don't. My philosophy now is: I expect the best sex you can deliver. That doesn't mean doing anything totally bizarre or harmful, but I expect good sex. If you did X with some Chad 4 years ago, that shit is on the menu. Not going to buy the story "oh, but we only did it a couple times and I didn't really like it". Likewi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:14 PM
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Don't simply classify anal as the only thing relevant here. Imagine telling a girl "hey, I used to go down on my girlfriend a lot, because she loved it, but I never really enjoyed. So I am not going to do that for you honey--sorry" yeah, like that would go over well Doesn't mean every girl needs to be a porn-star in bed, and do everything. It simply means that sexual compatibility is important, and doubly so if your sweetheart was more adventurous with her previous boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:58 PM
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Interestingly enough, he changed his FB status to "in a relationship" within a a couple months of dating her. I have met him (after he was revealed), and he seems to be very serious about the relationship. He also introduced her to his friends within a couple weeks of dating. But she didn't introduce him to any of her friends until it was inadvertently revealed she was seeing him, months into the relationship. Her FB status still doesn't indicate she is in a relationship. so this was definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 09:24 PM
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Never date someone who embarrasses you You should be able to bring your GF / BF to gatherings and introduce him / her with confidence to your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 02:33 PM
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nah, she was secretive with everyone about this, not just me. And not just with FB
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:32 AM
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I think this is probably it. I think she wanted to maintain "available" status among the men she knows (we have a number of mutual friends, and most of them are single). Even though I am taken, and no romance is going to happen between us, I think she still wants to maintain this status. She used to talk to me, and some of the other guys, all the time. Topics were sometimes very personal (asking for advice, sex, whatever). Now I never talk to her, as it seems "inappropriate"--I get this feeling …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 08:33 PM
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yeah, this wasn't just keeping things private for a while. It was keeping things secret for months, lying about how long she was with him when we found out, etc. which seems strange to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:06 PM
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after I found out about the guy from her female friend (who let it slip), and after they had been dating for months, I asked her I playfully asked "what's up with the secret boyfriend"? And she gave some incoherent answer (was very surprised I knew about him and very nervous / stammering) about how she didn't want to be seen as a slut. I was like "why would being in a relationship with a guy make you a slut"? made no sense at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:49 PM
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well the interesting thing is, they were pretty serious from the start --at least in theory. He is definitely exclusive with her, and they have made plans to visit his family in Europe and everything. That is why I find this so odd
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:36 PM
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More of a question of characteristics than personality For me, the woman should be Cultured (from a good family, well-read) Reasonably intelligent Traditional and feminine Honest Pleasant and friendly ​ -- It isn't hard to be any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:46 PM
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I have not seen this in my life at all. I've known a lot of attractive guys, and was myself pretty good-looking when I was in my 20s (6'1, 185lbs, broad shoulders, good features, etc.). Almost all of these guys, myself included, were looking for LTRs and good marriage prospects. Some of the guys were religious. One guy I know is very good-looking, and settled down to marry the second girl he ever slept with. When you can have four-star cuisine (potentially), you are not going to go out for fast …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:46 PM
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You are hanging out int he wrong environments, and with the wrong people surround yourself with garbage and you will start to smell
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 02:36 PM
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Upper middle class typically means the professional class. Assets of 3-10 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 08:09 PM
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I actually married up It's possible,but you have to aim high, and demand a girl who is From a good family Has culture and intelligence Has character and good ideology that's it. simple. And if you can't find that, then it isn't worth marrying, nor is it worth playing the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:08 AM
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I was born into a wealthy family. Basically grew up in a Gilded Age mansion for a time, and there were strict social protocols. Later on, my parents broke up, and it impacted the fortune quite a bit. Here is the main thing about being in the upper end of the upper-middle-class (or even he upper class). NEVER date down in social class, and most certainly never marry down. This is the #1 mistake men make imho. A girl from a good, wealthy family, doesn't have any reason to engage in gold digging, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:34 AM
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it is, but I am taking it further. I contend that a woman's character, reputation, previous behavior (N count, etc.), determines the level of fidelity and love she receives. So even if you are stuck with a woman that falls short in those areas, or ended up marrying one, don't think you have to devote yourself to her. She isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:14 PM
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I say if something becomes a problem in your life, or prevents you from reaching your goals, you should consider stopping it now that being said, I love my beer, and probably drink too much of it But I am happily married and gainfully employed The problem with pot is the image: it is associated with low-drive, immaturity, unreliability, etc. I once dated a girl who was a big pot smoker and it was a disaster--I vowed never again to make that mistake. so I am not casting judgment, merely telling y…
/r/RPChristians27/06/20 03:11 PM
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Jordan Peterson is "dangerous" now? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 03:04 PM
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the real solution may involve men realizing that women simply don't deserve fidelity or honesty. A chick that banged Chads in college and then settled for a beta isn't entitled to anything. And that beta may end up being very successful in the second part of his life, with a good career, income, prospects, etc. He may gain confidence and prestige. And then he should have his fun on the side, regularly. Make sure the pre-nup is signed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:46 AM
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that is true --it is a risk I wouldn't wait a year. That is too long. But a few months, or maybe even 6, sure But we are talking about very rare women indeed, and you are going to know within a couple months if she had casual sex before you. If that is the case, cut her off and move on. But for most guys, having low expectations, or no expectations at all, should be the default. High value women are rare in this country and culture
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:24 PM
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There has to be a lot more to Hannah than that Is she intelligent, witty, and clever? Does she have good character and ideology (no feminism, crazy leftist politics, etc.)? Is she from a good family? Or is her family trailer-trash? If the answer to those questions are "yes", I would absolutely wait a few months to sleep with her. In fact, I might be the one insisting things evolve slowly. I would rather shoot for the stars with Miss Right and maybe fall short, than waste my time and energy on lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:46 PM
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I think most of us were blue-pilled at one point. For me, the ideas were Girls had low N counts, were judicious about who they slept with, and put value on sex Girls wanted intelligent, deep guys, who had culture, etc. Girls had romantic ideas, and Jane Austin-style romances were an aspiration Girls were ideologically, and culturally reliable As you get older and red-pilled, all of the above gets put to rest very quickly, and you realize that: Girls in the US have high N counts, have slept aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:24 PM
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some women might say that, but I know several guys who are blue-collar tradesmen who have wives or LTRs I know one girl who turned down a lawyer to get with a carpenter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 06:50 PM
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I think you are disappointed that the girl you really like is promiscuous and doesn't put a lot of value on sex. We like to think women we are into have good self-esteem, clean track records, etc. --then we find out that they are not marriage material. High value chicks are very hard to find. If you are cool having a casual thing with this girl, go ahead, but do NOT elevate her to LTR status, and heaven forbid don't even think about marriage. These chicks are a dime a dozen, and most will be div…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:27 PM
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while you are correct to some degree, in that devoutly religious people tend to stay together, there are other issues I know Christian men who are in pretty lousy marriages, largely because they cannot take on masculine, patriarchal responsibilities. They are pushed around by their wives, and are filled with bad ideology (radical egalitarianism, ethnic self-hatred, etc.) The church is largely a feminine space right now, or at least most of the denominations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:26 PM
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One only has to take a look at what is happening right now to see our decline, and the consequences of the 19th amendment, third-wave feminism, etc. so take it back to the 1950s? Not enough, Take it back in 1910
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:16 PM
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99% of men care about N counts. Just because a fair number of dudes lie to their girlfriends and say things like "oh, I really don't care how many guys you've been with", it doesn't mean that a lot of guys don't care. Literally every guy I have ever known has made it pretty clear he does not want a promiscuous girl with a high N count as a LTR or wife. I can't think of one dude who honestly didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 01:44 AM
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you might not have any issues, and might live happily ever after but statistics and studies have shown the higher the N count for the woman, prior to marriage, the much higher the chances of marital unhappiness and divorce it makes sense. People with high N counts (20+) tend to be Capricious and restless in their relationships. Never happy. Victims of a lot of bad relationships, and therefore harbor resentments and baggage Lacking in self-control and discipline Lacking in self-esteem Now there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 01:03 AM
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20+ sex partners previous to marriage is pretty much guaranteed divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 07:32 PM
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that probably depends on the history I would imagine. 4-6 partners in LTRs, fine. 20+ body count? Look out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:15 PM
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I don't think so. I think women organize society to take power for themselves, and in this respect they aren't much different than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:15 PM
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all that needs to be said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:03 PM
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