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Does every single woman in existence fail to grasp why men generally prefer younger women? Hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:46 PM
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An argument that doesn't consider exceptions is a bad argument. OP isn't arguing that women are generally more attractive in their 20's. Like, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:40 PM
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There's attractive 37-year olds and unattractive 22-year olds. Don't write tautologies and then invite people to argue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:24 PM
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I'm more physically attractive. Face isn't so innocent looking and I have better facial posture. My haircut is longer and more stylish, I also look better with facial hair. Better skin tone from living in the sun rather than a dark northern country. I've got a surfer's body which is a lot better than being some depressed gangly teen. Could I have been more attractive when I was 25, if I'd figured that shit out? Maybe. But for me it didn't work out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 09:08 PM
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Absolutely. If the two parties involved are halfway intelligent, they'll be aware it's socially unconventional. In fact I'm sure most people would respect them if it's a healthy and happy relationship for both. Love is love, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:28 PM
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The really attractive late 20s/early 30s guys DO NOT WANT a relationship with a big age gap. That's true. But sometimes you happen to really hit it off with someone, moreso than potential partners of your own age. And if you really like each other, it's hard to ignore that even with a clear awareness of the issues involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 02:23 PM
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People respect men who are independent, self-aware, comfortable in their pursuits and passions, and not dependent on female validation. That's the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 10:20 PM
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Men should always go their own way, it's self-actualization in other words. I don't see why relationships are incompatible but it's only going to work with a woman who respects your values and the activities and pursuits that animate your life. Selfishness and immaturity can't be tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 10:10 PM
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If you have an over-idealized image of women, it needs to be corrected. How much? It's hard to say. So obviously, some people will overshoot the mark and become misogynistic before they eventually find what's eventually considered a balanced opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:58 PM
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Women tolerate assholes if they're attractive = confirmed. Now maybe, we can all finally stop arguing over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:32 PM
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Clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:47 AM
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No, we also need legal enforcement. Checkpoints to catch offenders, disincentives to offend, services that make it easy and practical to get home safely, etc. And of course emergency services and hospitals because we're never going to prevent the worst at 100%. You might have the impression I'm being morally judgmental and it's not the case. It's that I'm coming at this like an administrator rather than your drinking buddy, who should rightfully be empathizing with you, not piecing apart what co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 01:31 PM
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You can read the author's conclusion from the abstract. "...indicates the need for alcohol prevention programs on campuses that address sexual assault." So they didn't see that as redundant. "Don't drink and drive", "Wear your seatbelt", are also redundant advice. And there's a reason people say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 01:18 PM
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Drunk chicks looking to get it on have fucking BITTEN me twice this year. Trust me, nobody gives a fuck. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 11:47 AM
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Roughly one in 20 (4.7%) women reported being raped. Nearly three quarters (72%) of the victims experienced rape while intoxicated. Women who were under 21, were white, resided in sorority houses, used illicit drugs, drank heavily in high school and attended colleges with high rates of heavy episodic drinking were at higher risk of rape while intoxicated. The high proportion of rapes found to occur when women were intoxicated indicates the need for alcohol prevention programs on campuses that ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 11:35 AM
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I see your point. But I don't think sensitivity to victims should necessarily preclude us from from discussing risk factors in different contexts, or critiquing the behavior of both perpetrators and victims through a more impersonal lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 10:39 AM
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I used their experiences to teach others. A different nation eventually relieved us, who didn't have the benefit of our training. They suffered casualties on an order of 10x higher. So my takeaway? Yes, you need to be sensitive to the emotional distress of victims. But that should not prevent you from giving advice that will end up protecting those at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 07:24 AM
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Ask a rhetorical question, get a rhetorical answer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 07:14 AM
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There was no "IED culture" in Afghanistan. There were tangible insurgent networks with techniques, tactics, procedures. Likewise, "rape culture" is an impossibly vague concept. It's not actionable in a real sense. You need to boil it down to who actually engages in rape, who facilitates it, and how to counter it in the most resource-effective way possible. The 1st major bottleneck in the process are the victims or witnesses who might be discouraged from reporting. 2nd, the issue of the legal and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 01:16 AM
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I also don't expect you to go up to a soldier who accidentally stepped on a bomb he didn't think was there and tell him that if he'd done x he would still be able to walk. That's exactly what I did. More accurately, we study the incident and use the lessons learned to identify what could have been done differently in order to protect ourselves. We then use those examples as case studies and propagated that knowledge through the rest of the force so they're better prepared to protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:52 AM
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They're responsible for putting themselves in a dangerous situation; nothing more, nothing less. We still don't have a crime without a perpetrator. And clearly, no matter how irresponsible the victim was, it doesn't excuse the perpetrator's actions whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:45 AM
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They also don't deserve to get raped Duh? I trained soldiers not to step on roadside bombs. Do you think my advice was "don't take precautions, it's the insurgents fault you've got no legs?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:41 AM
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Yes, I am calling you an asshole. Your negative experiences don't give you a trump card to pull out in any argument, and they're certainly not an excuse to engage in bullshit strawman garbage either. So fuck right off with that. I have my own victim card but guess what? I'm not pulling it out just because you like comparing. We can be sympathetic towards each other in another context, but right now we're going to be focused on logic and reasoning in an abstract context, without defaulting to per…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:11 AM
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When some bro is wandering around on a sketchy beach drunk off his ass and gets robbed in the moonlight by the locals, 100% of us know he was a fuckin' moron to put himself in that position. Partygoers who get drunk, drive, total their car and injure themselves and innocent bystanders, are being clueless assholes and 100% of us know it. A woman who gets drunk, puts herself into an isolated situation with guy she barely knows, and therefore invites a extremely high risk of victimization is irresp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 11:17 PM
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> I don't want to be protected. Does that translate as "I want to be protected" in our non-ideal world? I understand exactly what you're saying. But also understand that men can be very literal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:39 PM
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The entire reason women are asking men to do this is because men are actually the ones who are likely to be believed and taken seriously It's that men are capable of exerting physical authority over other men. You want your dude coworker to police the actions of other men to protect you. What is that if not patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 07:38 PM
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Look. I always heard the phrase "teach men not to rape". I've never heard "empower decent men to challenge institutional or informal structures of oppression". Isn't the need to empower men at all, rather than divest them of agency and moral authority, more or less acknowledging that the patriarchy doesn't actually exist as such? And since women seem to be imploring men to protect them, isn't the exact problem is that we have the complete opposite -- the patriarchy *doesn't* exist, or at the ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 07:04 PM
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His point is that empathy is a thing. You can be grumbling around in a bad mood thinking evil thoughts about women, if some poor thing falls on the ground next to you and cries out in pain, it cuts right to an instinctive reaction to help and protect her. Most antisocial people have a fundamentally different brain structure where those empathy centers aren't activated. So you need to look at the neurology involved here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 06:52 PM
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It's a cultural issue in that we create a culture beneficial for a minority rapists, not that most men are generally rapists. I mean you have guys like Jeffrey Epstein. Nobody's excusing his actions except the elite. Most people do a cost-benefit analysis and decide that rocking the boat, as far as it concerns them, is less desirable than letting the victims take the hit. And that's why you have issues from everywhere from high schools to the English royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:12 PM
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The whole point of rape culture was that it was cultural, and hence affected all men. If most men aren't rapists, you don't have a cultural issue at all. If the issue is a predatory minority, it's more about the difficulties of identifying and prosecuting that minority. In which case the #1 issue is failure to report by victims, and the #2 issue is unresponsive or hostile bureaucracies. If you want to be preventative, you need to ask what makes that predatory minority different -- and there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:28 PM
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Maturity's impressive. It's rare enough these days. Probably doesn't mean much from an internet stranger, but keep on moving forward. Seems like you made the right choice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 12:57 AM
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Didn't you use to get into the occasional argument here? You're more chill and insightful than 95% of the sub these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:10 PM
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Sleeping with me. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 04:11 PM
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Cold approaches are easier than ever man. If most guys are reticent about something as basic as even opening a conversation, you're going to stand out far more if you're halfway decent at it. Basic social skills -- opening a conversation, observing your environment, asking appropriate questions, how to signal interest and recognize it, how to escalate and isolate -- none of this has changed. What has changed is urbanization and technology. You don't grow social skills on a computer. And hey look…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 04:10 PM
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Apparently that's what women appreciate, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:24 PM
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My buddy's formula was "get her drunk and get a hotel room"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:18 PM
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Ah yeah. The infamous "one thing led to another"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:10 PM
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Almost all men read interest, then follow up. It might be subtle (eye contact) but it's a thing. Just rocking up on some girl with a committed approach and forcing her to drive you away? It isn't all that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:52 PM
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I mean, I can't believe any woman who actually loves you would *want* to monopolize your time, stop you from pursuing your passions, and destroy your overall well-being for her. So I mean, what's the fucking deal then. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:56 PM
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I bailed on career world and don't regret it. Women can have all the high-stress jobs they want, I don't see much point in partnering up with them anyway. Seems to wreck them in both body and soul
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:37 PM
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Y'all really are a different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:32 PM
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Why does no one tell them to accept responsibility or suck it up and deal with it as quick as they are to say to "nice guys", you weren't so nice? I'm pretty sure I saw a guy say exactly that to his female friends at Uni and they reacted quite poorly; it was a thread on AITA but I can't seem to find it. It's a bit like talking to a friend about any other irresponsible behaviour, like drunk driving. True or not, most don't like to hear criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 09:42 PM
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They don't necessarily like them. Study only says they're sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 04:01 AM
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That sub is an embarrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 03:58 AM
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Why wouldn't it be possible to skip the AF phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 03:57 AM
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Johns are clients; it's a term for men who frequent prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 12:07 PM
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What is really interesting about a person who had a lot of sex with many different people and doesnt like you very much? He has high social status. It's literally that simple. A tradesman who slept with an assortment of prostitutes on a month-long trip to Amsterdam and flags low-status throughout his conversations with women isn't going to have the same cachet, despite fitting the description quoted above. As for entirely decent commitment-worthy men with average social status, how often have yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 11:51 AM
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To her: Whatever I can bullshit to be kind and not hurt her feelings too much. To my penis: "We're going to discuss how you got us into the mess again later, you little shit"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 11:34 AM
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So if that's the analogy, should men consider women who have casual sex as Johns? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 11:31 AM
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Smells like bacon
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 10:22 PM
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I moved to the beach. It kicks ass
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 10:07 PM
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You fool, they clearly love her for her warmth, humor, and non-judgemental personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:25 PM
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Sounds like a stupid relation for a guy in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:17 PM
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Elite colleges are a social obligation for rich kids. You want to be a diverse person, you need to spend time outside your usual socioeconomic mileu.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:48 AM
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> The virgin alpha with a harem of thots > The chad high beta with a loving respectful wife Based PPD women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 04:49 PM
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I got a week ban for this one https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/c3h2dp/cmv_most_ppd_moderators_severely_underestimate_my/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:15 PM
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I think what women love is agency. And it's arguably the most masculine trait that exists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:06 PM
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It's relevant to their personality and the kind of person they are. Pablo Escobar's wife tolerated him blowing up an airplane full of innocent people, and you wouldn't judge him for that if you were dating him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:04 PM
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I empathize with you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:56 PM
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Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:52 PM
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Why don't mods show any empathy for shitposters?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:31 PM
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Patrician reference there, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:22 PM
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It's technology and urbanization. Now everybody thinks they can get a better deal out of the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:15 PM
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devotion and commitment This starts long before you meet your partner, it starts when you're building your life to become the person you want to be. If I waste my potential as a young man on diversions rather than trying to dedicate myself into growing into the best version of who I can be, I will be rightfully judged on that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:12 PM
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This is probably the hottest topic in the gender wars right now isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 08:57 PM
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then just go sit in loserville You can have a pretty good life as a single guy. Probably better than shacked up to some woman who's just using you to keep up with her friends and thinks you'd be an alright dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 08:48 PM
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multiple leftover women are more valuable than virgin wife for life Apex fallacy, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:22 AM
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I'd prefer to be with my future wife when she's most attractive -- for men that's usually when women are in high school and college (and when you were fucking hot douchebags). Your story is the epitome of AF/BB, that's just how it is. The difference is in how RP/BP rationalize that as positive or negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:14 AM
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AI controlled 3d holo-Stacy Krieger-san!! Holo-stacies are yesterday's news... they won't be able to compete with anime catgirls anyway 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:17 PM
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Nothing like putting up a false front for your partner to build a long term authentic emotional connection 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:11 PM
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madonna whore complex It's not this at all. AF/BB just mean girls who indulge a hoe phase or persist in chasing unattainable men until they start worrying about age ruining their ability to lock a highly desirable guy down. Next step = either permanently single or settle on a guy they're not head over heels for, and in most likelyhood, divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:59 PM
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I seem to attract psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:24 PM
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It’s a matter of seeing from someone else’s viewpoint Empathy is one of the hardest things for people to understand if they're not used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:18 AM
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Well, guys have good incentives to banter effectively. Otherwise you spend a lot of time getting blood off your clothes in the laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 10:04 PM
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Nothing wrong with that, though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:19 AM
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Cluster B is always a trash can diagnosis. You want to pay attention to the traits and not get hung up on labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:01 PM
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So pretty much "juice not worth the squeeze" territory?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:56 PM
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There's no magic bullet. Be careful who you trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:19 PM
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You're cute 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:08 AM
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It's literally a term of social approval that trended on twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:56 PM
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https://www.theonion.com/housewife-charged-in-sex-for-security-scam-1819567920
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:29 PM
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At a macro level, you don't only have intra-society competition. You also have inter-society competition. Societies with sexual stability can then focus their men on more important matters, like developing an economy, manufacturing weapons, training a military, and prepping their children to succeed them. 5 guys with cohesion and discipline will shit all over 5 guys with none, no matter how many side chicks they're juggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:21 PM
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There's two ways to do relationships. Mutual cooperation, trust and altruism. This really fucking hard for most people and you stand a good chance of getting burned even if you play it straight. Trying to get the best deal possible for yourself. It's tough in a different way, you need to negotiate from a position of power in a relationship. Ever see people complaining about dating being a game of "who cares less, wins"? I'm sure we can all connect the dots and see why 'me-me-me' feminism and RP …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:02 PM
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You're free to run your trap as much as you want if you want to embarrass yourself, have at it buddy. Have an upvote too. Because flexing on incels in the guise of "advice" is peak reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:22 PM
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I've heard it said depression is just anger without enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:57 PM
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Let's slow down a bit. You have zero business giving advice in this context since you haven't ever been in the kind of position we're discussing. In fact, you're more or less hostile to even imagining the challenges implied with any degree of real insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:45 PM
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Why do you think therapists exist if everything is so easy? I mean, you've recommended them and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:12 PM
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Imagine if you had no smart friends or family to give a fuck about you in the first place You missed a smart ass reply to this one. The point, in case you missed it, is to imagine a kid who isn't socialized advantageously. It's certainly not to start defending YOURSELF in particular. Cheers bud
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:53 PM
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That's not a very UMC reply of you, darling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:45 AM
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You sure it's not the dating market that's affecting employment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:44 AM
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Passive aggression is risky. Because people aren't always in the mood to let it slide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:42 AM
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Imagine if you had no smart friends or family to give a fuck about you in the first place. No money for stylish clothes or haircuts No sports and gyms which you enjoyed. And so on. You were in your own words, an immature jerk and it still worked out for you. You might want to be gracious for your good fortune rather than judgemental about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:39 AM
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We might be in violent agreement. It's the logic behind erasing or obscuring historical realities that remind me of Orwell. From what I recall, Eurasia (the state in 1984) doesn't really have any kind of racial or religious identity at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:21 PM
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High school. Bye now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:34 PM
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I think you're missing something important. I'm pulling a few quotes from a National Review article. The same point is made by John Paul II in Centesimus Annus: “Totalitarianism arises out of a denial of truth in the objective sense.” O’Brien, the novel’s voice of the socialist Party, denies that there is any “objective reality” apart from the mind. “Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else,” he tells Winston. “You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of nature…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 11:22 PM
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"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:42 PM
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Are you arguing the point? Go read 5 minutes of history unless you're playing games with language.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:16 PM
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Thanks for your brilliant insights, as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 07:13 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:54 PM
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Idealism often clashes with biology. What women say at 3pm in the classroom isn't always what women will do at 3am when they're disinhibited. And just as an aside, it's not only men who don't accept certain uncomfortable realities about dating and attraction. As an analogy, America was created as a genocidal slave state, but that's certainly not how most people like to envision it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:52 PM
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Black Pill = euphemism for disillusionment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:40 AM
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If you're talking about sneaky women, they are slutting around in their teens and 20's and only prioritize male resources after they have a dead libido, kids to raise, and don't feel like the poor guy can get too much leverage over her anyway. This of course goes out the window when you have a loving and collaborative relationship between two altruistic people who love each other. Cooperation ♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 04:03 PM
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Not really that important. There's more than one woman in the world. Point is women who won't accept being a side piece = attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 07:30 AM
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In vino, veritas 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:28 PM
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I've got a disease. And the only cure... ...is more cowbell
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:09 PM
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Doubt it. She's one of those chicks who needs guys who live somewhat outside her normal world to help stimulate her imagination. Her friend was an attractively dull east coast prep kid with nowhere near enough charisma or mystique to work that angle on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:06 PM
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Then the racism, sexism, homophobia, and fighting come out That's harsh bro. I usually just want to jam out to 90's alt rock and 00's skate punk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 09:44 PM
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I met a girl who was shit talking her Chad platonic friend and the whole concept of side chicks. Women who believe in monagamy and commitment are classy AF
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 09:40 PM
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There are people who have better definitions than I. I'd refer you to them to understand why this is a sticking point https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_processing_in_the_brain
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:32 PM
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Most women aren't going to get an adrenaline spike in one particular moment that can make them vomit because of some generalist fear of rape. And that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:21 PM
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A "chance" of anything requires imagination. If you are getting chased by a bear IRL, imagination is not needed. If you've never been in this kind of position Smoogs, you are probably underestimating what it feels like. Your body's reaction is no joke. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L56KOpZ6vI4
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:17 PM
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You're reaching here. Being afraid of the unknown due to your overactive imagination is NOT the same as having a large toothy animal charge you. There are measurable differences -- elevated heart rate, adrenaline spike, etc. I know you like defining your own terms and arguing over them but you still need to differentiate (if you want to have a useful discussion anyway). Fear and anxiety often occur together but these terms are not interchangeable. Even though symptoms typically overlap, a person…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 08:08 PM
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Fear is not an action, it's a physiological reaction. "Anxiety" is a better term for what you're discussing. And it's not necessarily linked to good information. For example, you can be terrified of sharks in beaches where they don't even exist, just because you saw a scary movie!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:59 PM
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Most abusers I've dealt with have been charming, funny, and engaging Good qualities don't usually mask bad ones. They just tempt others to overlook them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:36 PM
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worst was seeing a guy shoot his wife/GF? in the chest in the middle of the street. she dead Yikes. Real shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:28 PM
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I was an international applicant to a US liberal arts college from Canada. Personally I think your version of "normal" is a little skewed. US colleges are full of rich kids with assured futures who have a bad tendency to be immature, entitled assholes. Maybe it's the huge income disparity in America, maybe it's cultural, but it is a thing. US college kids are absolutely horrible, and they are very much Chad (and that's why the stereotype exists). I took a holiday group of 20-ish of these kids to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:00 PM
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Fear is never analytical
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:38 PM
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Chad = normal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:29 PM
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You mean all the date rapist cokehead narcs who litter the party scene? A lot of women try and hang with these guys, get burned, and then blame men in general because we're nice safe targets for their anger. Ok well maybe not all women but I'm sure you know the type
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:08 PM
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1) Nope. But I've been slapped in anger twice by my mother, and my ex shoved me so hard in another spat that she took me off my feet. "Deserved" is irrelevant, that's toxic power struggle nonsense. 2) N/A 3) I've seen a woman bottled by another woman. I also once tried to stop some domestic argument between a couple downtown (I was a younger teen) and the woman told me to stay out of it. 4) Men are stronger and more resilient, end of story. 5) No. I don't lose my temper. 6) Yes, I had to intimid…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:56 PM
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Women in Iraq and Afghanistan actually walk up to military bases and put their butts up along the fences to have sex with American soldiers. Considering I've never seen a base in a hot zone without a Hesco bastion, I'd like to know where this story comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 07:52 AM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:17 PM
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If you leave him, you are a slut that keeps trying to find a better guy I've literally never heard this line of reasoning before in my life. You know what I've heard a lot? "Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:00 AM
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Exactly. I've startled in my sleep hard enough to take quips about it for 2-3 days. I'm sure other guys have done worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:08 PM
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I had an ex do that. After trying to work through her issues and putting up with her bullshit for months, I clearly recall feeling this creeping desire to put her in her place (you can guess how). Scary shit right? That realization finally made me end the RL before it could get worse. Guys need to watch themselves very closely. And if they aren't aware of that, or deny they need to... I wouldn't trust them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:04 PM
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See, this is the kind of stuff I don't even like to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:37 PM
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You can break a woman's nose in your sleep if you are a guy and have a bad dream. Guys underestimate themselves here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:24 PM
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They might run you over accidentally with their truck, so the verdict is: Dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:23 PM
1

That unknown man might be a lung doctor while your pot might give you respiratory complications. The plot thickens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:21 PM
1

Wait a minute, how did this happen? We're smarter than this!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:02 PM
2

This thread is about as high IQ as Monty Python's argument clinic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:01 PM
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If there were no men, women would be gone in a generation. More to the point, women select for the very traits that make men dangerous to them. It's evolutionarily advantageous to have a capacity for violence, and those women murdered by their partners are chalked up to maladaptive evolution (in a macro sense). Not enough aggression, just right, too much. I'm sure the same processes are at work in the rest of sexual selection as it relates to mammals. We might even be deluding ourselves by moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:43 PM
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Men are straight up more dangerous and that's exactly what women want. A gun is always more dangerous than a pink pool noodle. And a lot more useful, provided it's pointed in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:30 PM
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That's not a bad thing You so sure about that? Are we naively assuming that young women make good choices about their partners, just because we see choice as a good thing in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:28 PM
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All that about male privilege, and we didn't discuss birth control, automation, the ascendancy of the corporate elite, and the death of the property-owning nuclear family? OP, you disappoint me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 06:24 PM
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> its a thread for everyone > Why cant mtgows just shut up I guess there really are all types
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:02 PM
1

Then clearly they should have the right to talk as well, shouldn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:10 AM
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They can talk about women as much as they want. It's their life. What do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:24 AM
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it should be a blessing to have a woman who'd even be willing to be stay at home Depends on the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:12 AM
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A lot of them are messily divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:11 AM
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Isn't this the plot of The Great Gatsby? He comes from humble origins, ends up an extraordinary person, and dies for some disloyal spoiled thot who committed a hit and run in his car and fled the scene. That's the major problem with idealizing a woman. It's usually projection, and women can notice that unhealthy tendency in men better than anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:01 AM
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My bad 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:49 PM
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High empathy, good work ethic, no crippling mental disorders or addictions, smart, honest, loyal, and willing to throw down when it counts. Basically the character of Ashitaki from Princess Mononoke. Attraction is necessary but it does not mean those above qualities are subservient. If you want a good man, character is non-negotiable. It's the priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:16 PM
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Pff no. Go clean a hoarder house, you clearly have too much energy if you're still trying to salvage this fight. Lol 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:09 PM
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Nah I don't, I'm not an authority. So I wiki that shit A pink-collar worker refers to someone working in the care-oriented career field or in jobs historically considered to be women’s work. This may include jobs in the beauty industry, nursing, teaching, secretarial work, or child care
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:02 PM
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Oh boy. Are you 100% sure you want to have a dick measuring contest over this? I've painted professionally, renovated houses, worked in kitchens, trained as a mountain guide, spent 2 years as bike messenger, did lots of digging and hauling rucks in the infantry, currently working as a surf teacher, etc. Waitering is one of the easiest jobs I ever did. Well, physically. I hate people pretty easily lol! Not meaning to disrespect your work (the hoarder example would be a lot of work for sure) but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:08 PM
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The fuck are they cleaning? Basalt deposits with pickaxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:58 PM
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You have a hobby man? Be a dance instructor, ski instructor, etc. There's no better context to meet women than as focal point in doing something you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:42 PM
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A large part of that is because women have pink collar jobs where they don't get any routine exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:30 PM
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Lol. Your core argument is "it's hard having to eat out at restaurants for my social life"? Ahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:52 PM
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It's because it's annoying to quibble over semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 11:28 PM
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Because they are as dumb as we are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 11:16 PM
1

The way you're asking this question is just horrible, you might as well ask women "do you still have any standards"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:41 AM
2

"All naturals are PP, but not all PP are naturals?" I don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:38 AM
1

Everything you've written about PP regards attitude, not history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:37 AM
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Most of the the older women here are LTR'd/married and seem pretty happy with their SO's I think that's why they can hang at PPD. The constant hostility from RP types towards 30+ unpartnered women would make this place super toxic for any woman with genuine worries about being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:11 PM
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This is an interesting discussion because I actually hired an interior designer as a single guy, then bought a shitload of nice imported furniture. Did I get a sense of satisfaction out if it? No!!! I ended up getting rid of all that shit within a year to live out of a backpack in Central America and I was way happier. While I don't get much satisfaction out of nesting, I do, however, get a lot of validation from women fawning over my apartment. Your husband is an individual (so I wouldn't presu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:02 PM
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acting like women's only value in life is whether they're in a relationship Eh, that's just the context of discussions about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:55 PM
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Otherwise you just become a bf/gf chameleon A lot of people are. And it's not always because they don't know who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:27 PM
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relationships meant to facilitate growth > Dating seriously when you're not too old a dumping ground for people to die with a companion > Dating after 30
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:23 PM
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Obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:06 PM
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Hey, you're the one with a handle derived from an Ayn Rand novel
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:58 PM
1

So what do they plan to waste their peak SMV on?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:29 PM
1

Harvey Weinstein wasn't exactly a looker either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:27 PM
1

If you're dating amoral psychopaths low in sentimentality and loyalty, no shit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:22 PM
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It's not just women who are changing. 30's men don't have the same priorities as 20's men, and they're way more cautious with commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 09:55 PM
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I don't really agree. Most people just get old and fall into the same comfortable routines of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 09:25 PM
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As a community, RP isn't exactly known for their ideological consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 12:11 AM
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They don't want fully developed, mature, self-realized women. The whole point of a relationship is that you grow within it together. That way you actually have something in common later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 12:08 AM
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That depends a lot, doesn't it? If you grow up with a lot of friends and family looking out for you, they'll probably teach you a lot about how the game works. If you grow up without those social connections, you're on your own. The draw of RP isn't just that it talks shit about women, or that it's such a great fount of knowledge, it's that it's a support community where the users can relate to each other. Where else are they gonna find that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:57 PM
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Ok sorry, I see your point. Some older women definitely have a lot of charisma and charm irrespective of stereotypical 'hotness' to younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:21 PM
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"Obvious and common knowledge" is a matter of perspective. But you'd know this I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:18 PM
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Even if you aren't into the revenge fantasy, women aren't the same at 32 as 22. I don't know this is even a controversial statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:15 PM
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Human sexuality has existed long before RP, it will exist long after. Of course you can ignore it. But that said, whenever RP describes reality, it's good advice. Whenever RP seeks to define reality, it's bad. And that's true of any kind of advice at all, from health to career choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:55 PM
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You still need to appeal to men if want to company of one. Despite how abrasive and off-putting those communities are, you can't simply put your fingers in your ears and go la la la. That's not good either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:17 PM
1

Yeah they try and flirt for free shit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 10:10 PM
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I realize this is a joke but men really do demand consistency from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 08:36 AM
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Do you consider a school a "natural environment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:57 PM
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We need some more interesting discussion material around here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 09:35 PM
1

A violent guy with a reactive ego and poor impulse control is pretty easy to spot, isn't he?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 09:34 PM
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I get where you're coming from but 'predatory' depends mostly on the intentions of the guy, not the age of the girl. Decent men won't allow an impressionable woman to pursue anything if it's clear the RL isn't going to be healthy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 09:21 PM
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I think you can save your anti-predator speech for someone more deserving of it. Women are good enough at finding predators of their own age anyway. I'm just asking if you're hostile to these kinds of RL's when it's not about manipulation. Or if you think age gaps preclude healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 02:41 PM
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Can I play devil's advocate? I'm not a total wreck of a dude. My main sin was not being much fun when I was younger. I don't want to be the de facto leftovers that is cleaning up after the failed relationships of these women, and that usually means dating younger. Is that predatory? Or do I get an exemption?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 11:52 AM
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How the fuck do I weigh less than a 11 year old girl lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 06:36 AM
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Oh yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 04:32 AM
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Yes. This girl who liked finding married guys she could poach. Does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 01:40 AM
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Ahem. There's plenty of men who are promiscuous themselves, shit talk their casual partners, and end up eventually partnering with women who don't have casual sex. And some of those guys are the most judgmental out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:35 PM
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Women can generally 'play it safe' and be highly attractive to men for at least one point in their life. Young, no hoe phase, cute, kind, loyal = outstanding wife material. Guys need to be winners... which means there has to be losers. That's the entire purpose of sexual reproduction, and since men don't nurse babies, it's where risk/reward has the most sensible evolutionary payoff. Then again, technology has really shaken things up. So there's a lot of unprecedented challenges for both men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:37 PM
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This is literally my buddy. He's a drama ridden narcissist going nowhere in life but at least the bar sluts and coke preserve his fragile delusion of still being relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:22 PM
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The OG "look out for oneitis" tale
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:20 PM
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> sanest comment > this subreddit Well, those two factors usually get us off to a poor start.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:15 PM
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If the mom promised him ice cream to temporarily shut the poor kid up? Or didn't teach the child how to manage his expectations and deal appropriately with disappointing outcomes? Just because someone's behaviour is dysfunctional doesn't mean there isn't a reason. And it doesn't mean I can't empathize with the poor confused creature in distress, even if I disagree. Hint hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:56 AM
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Well 35+ women don't just have an entitlement problem, they actually DO have a dating problem because male attraction falls off a cliff. Then we have an "acceptance" problem because the view of reality doesn't match the actuality. I think we should have a fair amount of sympathy for anyone in this position. Just because anyone is less desirable doesn't mean they are worth any less as people, and it's hard to imagine the struggle in dealing with that unless we're in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:44 AM
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I once had sex in a bed too. Now can I buy you an ice cream or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:39 AM
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Personally I haven't but I'm curious where you're going with this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:30 AM
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You can see 35+ women whine over "men are shallow to desire younger women". People are usually all the same. They don't give a damn about anything that doesn't impact them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:28 AM
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Humans ARE shallow. There isn't any problem except when you force-feed people (mostly men) moralizing nonsense about how the key to getting what you want is to be a nicer, harder working person instead of getting real about attraction! If we know in advance we're going to be judged on external factors that have nothing to do with our inner value as people, aren't we a lot less likely to have emotional reactions to such?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:20 AM
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I don't think this would work. Going to the gym and performing acceptably vis-a-vis the social script isn't enough to compete if you're only average. You just end up another overworked drone with no personality because life becomes work-gym-commute-eat-sleep. I'd put in some thought into creating an attractive dating profile with some good pictures Once again -- not gonna work for the average guy. I get the spirit of your paragraph but this is the worst ROI for guys who don't stand out from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:24 AM
1

I mean the last thing I can think of here was when Reddit banned r/FatPeopleHate. And that was about overt bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:44 PM
1

There are certainly thoughts that are not okay to have regardless of your actions on those thoughts. That's an interesting topic all in itself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:38 PM
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I’d say being an actual racist and believing in race supremacy is not OK to believe Well there's clearly differences in genetics, aren't certain races going to be more adapted to certain challenges like freediving for food sources or functioning well at higher altitudes? Most racism we take offense to is about action and social positioning. For example it's about the social consequences of intermarriage, not about personal preferences of who to marry. There's objective stats on which races + gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:16 PM
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Unless your preferences change, it's just shit to keep to yourself to not needlessly distress others. It's the ranting about undesirable people and dehumanization that people usually take offense to moreso than preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:09 PM
1

Or pepper spraying a grizzly with bear spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:46 PM
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But very few men can take on three (possibly armed men) and win It ain't about winning man. You fight because you have no choice and the chips fall where they will
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:18 PM
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Yeah well then you're a professional, right? SF guys will keep fighting even if they've been shot multiple times. Not much stops determined people except two in the chest, one in the head. For some poor girl who's not prepared to unhesitatingly murder a potential attacker, pepper spray is probably better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 05:15 PM
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Nice reference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 02:15 PM
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Yeh but most guys get stuck on this path because they don't have a choice. What's your options -- be a boring loser sitting on the sidelines, or play the game regardless of how inauthentic it feels? This is what women want, and if you don't deliver it another guy will. So at some point you have to give up looking for your unicorn and deal with women the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 02:13 PM
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Maybe women generally don't idealize men to the extent that men idealize women. I think a lot of us struggle through this tendency except the guys who were basically natural misogynists or happen to be lucky enough to live out their life with a woman who doesn't challenge this misconception. It's learning that women can be petty, selfish, dishonest, manipulative, vindictive, arbitrary, dishonorable, etc... and not just the exceptional mean girl, but literally all women and especially the ones yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 11:40 AM
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This is typically what happens when romanticized "alphas" eventually run into open conflict with the guys who Atlas is calling high betas. Buddy looks like a great choice making out with the concrete while getting chewed on by the K-9. I'm sure the "look at me" posturing works on some women. But real status is given for concrete reasons. It's not based on loopy female sexual desire. Criminals and pimps win very infrequently in the long run, and they don't leave much about themselves or their liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 01:23 PM
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You're not addressing the drop in male desire past 30-35. I'm less engaged with women period and I think it's pretty sad. It's not just looks. I straight up just care less about both sex and meeting women, where I used to prioritize it when I was younger. Women can't play through their entire 20's just because "oh one day I'll look old". Men are changing too. From your POV as a woman, this is something you shouldn't ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:00 PM
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men also play the field until they discover what their true value or true SMV is My conception of a RL when I was young was it's something you get into early, then you support each other's development as you grow. Modern conception of a RL is you do your growth alone, then settle for a partner when you find it convenient or necessary. Which one favors playing the field?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:34 AM
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Did I ever say I was objective when judging women? I wish I was. I would have done a lot less dumb shit growing up!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 01:49 PM
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Women are anything but objective when judging men. Use your own eyes and ears and don't ever expect a shortcut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:53 PM
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What drives promiscuity is validation and attention from multiple partners. Liking sex from your monogamous partner? It's not the same thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:25 PM
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I want to push past the sour grapes and have a frank discussion about where we are Requires a lot of personal disclosure. Most people aren't into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 07:26 PM
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If I loved her? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 12:06 PM
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Seems men aren’t really okay with GTOW after all No shit. That they're still doing it means something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 09:34 AM
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It's the party cohort -- coke, drama, DUIs, casual sex, etcetera. If you are a more moderate person, expect a more moderate N-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 12:42 PM
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It's code for "you're not being a strong man and it makes me not respect you"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:12 AM
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If a woman is whiny and unsupportive, next her. Obviously you shouldn't be a emotional basket case yourself. Is this shit really so complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 08:28 PM
1

Fair enough. Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 05:16 PM
1

Well it probably depends on the context. Motorcycles are tools, not just status signifiers. Look at something like off-road touring across the desert in Morocco -- versus trying to impress HS girls in the parking lot, before you almost kill yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 04:47 PM
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That's not a problem with motorcycles. It's a problem with teenage idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 04:20 PM
1

The easiest way to get laid is be above-average attractive and troll the party environment with a plausible excuse for being there. Of course when you're 40+ and a loser, do we respect you for sleeping with 500 coked-out bar sluts who don't know if you're alive or dead? Is this really the mission we should be aiming for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 08:18 AM
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I don't see major movements of women on telling men they are rejecting marriage "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 10:43 PM
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why are they still trying to police women Calling women "post-wall hags" on the internet isn't policing their actions at all. It's just guys whinging amongst themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 10:42 PM
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They too can put in time, effort and money to looking their best well into their 30s Yeah but most single women need a lot of security and stability, meaning a career and a home. So they get into the "be overworked, eat poorly, sleep poorly, drink with friends on weekend" cycle and its curtains for both their physical and mental health. For those men relying on a late bloomer surge - they might be out of luck as they find their increased options to be women whose looks are decaying and who despe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:12 PM
2

There's guys who run away with women who abandon their families. Not nice to think about but hey, we as humans have done a lot of things that are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:07 PM
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It is attraction wise. I've met a lot of 20-30 and 30-40 women over the last year. Maybe it's more an issue with employment impacting your lifestyle moreso than aging, but it's no comparison which cohort is more attractive. Like "very" to "mostly not at all".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:54 PM
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Seems intuitvely unwise. Women aren't all smart and magnify that 10x when crushing on a guy. That's why intelligence and self-awareness in a woman is so fucking important. Without it, she is gonna just react to her emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:47 PM
2

I look a lot better at 35+ than 16. There's reasons for that, but I'm more masculine in every way now. At 16 I was just an unfortunately goofy-looking insecure twat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:43 PM
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I had a big LTR blow up in my face at 28, then I was then deployed to Afghanistan twice over the next two years. RMV problems. First, you are a lot more cautious of involvement. Second, there's just no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:40 PM
2

Guys will lust after girls wanting them to "be better". Like, no you dumb fuck. She only looks nice. Stop projecting your fantasies on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:31 PM
1

I've seen plenty of 20's girls fuck my cokehead "fun guy" buddy while travelling. Not a drug dealer or criminal (well, DUI), but he's far from focused or admirable. Of course, those kinds of girls are finding their own level, so it's important not to overfocus on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 11:15 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:23 PM
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If you get into a relationship with a woman over 30 you know what you're getting You've got either too much faith in male perceptiveness, or female transparency
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:58 PM
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yeh be some guys starter wife so he can abandon you at 30 Same old shit. You can understand commitment through the prisoner's dilemma. Mutual cooperation = early committment and loyalty from both partners Male defection = Soak up a committed woman's support, later ditch her for a younger model Female defection = Spend your youth on other men, pressure committment at 30+ Mutual defection = both partners forego commitment entirely There ARE strategies in this context. And you've probably seen plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:09 PM
2

It's easy to understand if you are selectively misogynistic. Those women have easy lives, they're bored, they want drama, and they're lazy. That's why challenging them works so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:47 AM
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Low investment in a biological sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:32 PM
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I met an attractive, unusually smart 21-yo who was adamantly against dating men who had 'side chicks'. Adamantly. So maybe smart women start relearning that relationships are a deal we make with each other? Their 20's for our 30's, and then a life with a loving and loyal partner for both of us. Just because it's transactional doesn't mean it can't be real and valuable This "fuck around in youth and settle at last minute" is as tacky for women as pick-up artistry is for men. So I think the rush o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 01:28 PM
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The guy on the stage isn't afraid of attention, fits better into the approved social context of a performer, and is going to be more successful if street guy isn't shown how to promote himself. However? Take the same guy playing in a more intimate context that doesn't seem forced, where he can focus his attention on an individual woman, and I think he'd do better than either. Social context is a big deal. Check the video of a world famous violinist busking in a subway, and nobody even noticed --…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 01:19 PM
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a lot of people get less conventionally attractive as they age That's what the the Wall is, yes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_PSfgR2BJLg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:51 AM
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You'd like Bill Burr's stand-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:17 PM
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I gotcha matey https://www.removeddit.com/r/science/comments/bdmgg4/indicators_of_despair_rising_among_gen_xers/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 12:11 PM
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Did you see this thread last week? https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/bdmgg4/indicators_of_despair_rising_among_gen_xers/ Just to offer an alternative perspective. You're going to have to sift through the comments for thoughts on how it relates to community or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:26 AM
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Different strokes for different folks 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:12 AM
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Why should you do [...] instead of focusing on your interests, living alone, not dying, or whatever? It's for the benefits of being part of a larger supportive community. I'm sure you understand the attraction of that, compared to being an alienated and atomized individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:02 AM
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No bad experiences = no overcoming of adversity = no interesting stories and deep pathos from your admirably resilient BF. Some guys process baggage better than others. It doesn't mean they don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:34 AM
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Women don't typically love things like inexperience and naivety in men. If you think otherwise, I'd be curious to hear your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:38 AM
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Women think that way too. A lot of them are more intrigued by men who have been kicked around a little by life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 09:27 AM
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To eat, drink, be merry, and achieve moral excellence so you don't fuck it all up for the next poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:32 AM
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PPD in a nutshell: let's take a valid point when discussed with context and nuance and oversimplify into the realm of clear stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:27 AM
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That's about vetting your guys u/verticordia. When I was younger, the main mistake I saw women making was relying too much on how those men looked to their female peers (who were likewise young, hormonal, and inexperienced) and not weighting enough value on character judgement from men or older women. Typically it resulted in getting plated or involvement in an LTR that wasn't healthy. Women can have scarcity mentality for high-value men and are reluctant to leave, so once they commit, they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:57 AM
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A lot of guys don't recognize an approach fom a woman. It's more like signalling receptivity to an advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:47 AM
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When you're young and insecure, the support of a woman can mean a lot to you. Young women are easy to fall in love with. When you're older, more established and women aren"t magical anymore... well, maybe you like spending time with her and she's a good influence? I know a girl a lot like u/douchebag_throwaway3's wife. She's doing everything right and would be a great wife. I'm not infatuated with her though. I really wish I met her when I was younger and would have gone crazy over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:40 AM
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They select for pro-social behaviour. And then we save the environment instead of running after useless consumer junk to signal social status for them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:30 AM
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You don't get high AF from all that oxytocin and other neurochemicals flooding your system?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 10:21 AM
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It's not slut shaming, though, is it? It's just men having standards for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:43 PM
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I don't agree. It's about where and on whom you invest your time. If you goof off for 10+ years and then complain that your CV lacks credibility, it's not the fault of the hiring manager is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:30 PM
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Eh, do you think there's some annual male committee where we outline the 2019 National Slut Shaming Policy? Women have the freedom to do whatever they want. If they want to be party girls and have exotic flings around the world, that's fine. But if you want to turn around and snap your fingers to conjure a committed husband with whom you spent your youth loving and supporting, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:18 PM
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I promise 😙
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:12 PM
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Yeah, at your low effort comment and clear disinterest in discussion for it's own sake. Untwist your panties you boring old granny
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:49 PM
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More concerned with accuracy and reproducibility I'd think. Taking photos of black holes is not exactly practical right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:05 PM
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Right, that's because it's supposed to be a tautology: a statement that is true by necessity or by virtue of its logical form. Red Pill was supposed to accurately percieve the realities of dating and women's sexual psychology. That knowledge would then be leveraged to succeed in practice. How that played out was different, RP wasn't much more than an amalgamation of dogma pushed by self-promoters with an axe to grind. There certainly wasn't much concern about accuracy. But eventually the embarra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:01 PM
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I mean if you have a society with a huge propertied middle class that's viewed positively, average joes are a safe bet for a woman. In contrasy to where you're trying to gamble on promotion from side piece or guaranteed poverty as some peasant's wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:45 PM
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I never said they were good scientists 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:40 PM
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That's the "in theory" part 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:40 PM
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I think there's a relative value calculation women make, it's not just '"top 20% or bust". Looking at how women select partners is societies with radically different rates of inequality would be a good tipoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:50 PM
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Red Pill in theory is always going to be correct, it's simply applying the scientific method to our observations of sex and dating rather than moralizing. At some point then, BP types have to accept it. Yesterday's radical conclusions become today's accepted truths. We don't get into heated arguments about the Earth being round, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:45 PM
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No dude. The point is upper class men can have value to women. The lower class men can fuck off and die. You explained it, you just don't seem to connect the dots with the cultural devaluation of the average man and the economic erosion of the middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:21 PM
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That's because you're wrong. In societies with established upper and lower classes, the lower classes are not valued. Look at historical precedents. In fact, even just read Fitzgerald. If marrying within the lower classes can't give a woman a good life, she will try and marry into a higher class. Which is hypergamy, and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:11 PM
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It is something to think about, because I have no fucking idea what you're trying to say. Ever gone camping and see a woman's opinion of you change? Social context is a big fucking deal, and western societies focused on consumerism above all else don't put men at an advantage. Ditching that context to chase alternatives that require masculinity (like free soloing El Cap) will make you a lot more attractive if you're not lucky enough to fit the "genetically-blessed-chad-from-successful-establishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:02 PM
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You then have to wonder why western society hasn't already done that You just said to develop men's potential "just so women can be happy". Not a seller. I've heard that too. What I don't hear is to develop men's potential because we value them inherently. Is that something you see too? I doubt it otherwise Jordan Peterson never would have had his cultural moment. And that disrespect is something western women percieve too, and that's why they like men who exist outside of that western cultural …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:10 PM
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Women shouldn't lower their standards -- communities should invest in the development of young men. Which of course would raise their relative status, making them more attractive already. When the cultural message is "we don't give a fuck about you", both men and women will internalize that. Hence female disdain and male disengagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:42 AM
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What happens is that societies tilting towards of low trust Dark Triad types -- salesmen, bullies, cheats and liars -- eventually get stomped out by societies that are capable of promoting altruism, trust, and sacrifice. This isn't about sexual selection, it's more about warfare nd cohesion. Men who aren't capable of cooperation and belief in the men shoulder-to-shoulder with them aren't going to win -- they are going to break and run. Let's say I take 5 middle class guys who are friends, with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:37 AM
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Is it possible to be a liberal while still believing in science? Funny how this shit works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:18 PM
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Women should not listen to me. Fish, fishermen, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:16 PM
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Red Tribe, Blue Tribe shit. That's the breaks when you date Americans
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:20 PM
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I wonder what you call that phenomenon. It's like Hillary yammering on "America is already great!", and everyone nodded in affirmation. Then of course Trump was elected and the very same people act like the US is beyond all chance of redemption. Like what exactly is your objective standard of measurement here? Lul
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:14 PM
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All the players I know are average-slightly above average dudes really into partying. Sounds accurate to me. Women are a huge time sink if you're trying to constantly meet and bed new ones. If guys are partying a lot, it fits more with their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:33 AM
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Maybe he doesn't fight him, but Brock Lesnar gets disinvited from the social group. Maybe context is a thing here but I can't remember the last time I've seen anybody slap a girl's ass in a bar. If you're a pretty boy, you are hopefully smart enough to bounce with your girl before 2am, unless you're both on retard safari to watch thirsty bois fight each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:21 AM
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The one who's not a bitch. Too EZ
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 11:21 AM
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Went down on her (unreciprocated) These fuxing pillow princesses 😰
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:20 PM
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Oops yeah. Thx for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:20 PM
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Even if I have to masturbate, an orgasm with a dick inside me doesn't even compare with just a solo masturbation Damn that's brutal. Is it just penetration, or you don't enjoy oral and/or your partner rubbing one out for you either?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:12 PM
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Oh no you don't. I'm gonna report you to r/whereareallthegoodmen! The game is up slut! Nice try!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:09 PM
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Hey OP. Just link the definition for your audience (who clearly wants to participate). https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pick%20Me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:06 PM
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There’s gonna be a correlation with dickheads and men comfortable with coming into your space. Ooh that's a good point. I know a few guys like this but they don't move in the sane circles as me. They either have personality issues or party too much (meaning cocaine).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:23 AM
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Sorry but I don't talk with rapists, even alleged ones. Cheerio then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 12:29 AM
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I know plenty. Some are good, some are bad. But the bad ones will always default to "it's just the way the world is" or "everyone else is doing it" because they don't like to take responsibility for their actions. To generalize, they deny their own moral agency. And that's the difference between people I respect and people I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:47 PM
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Oba Chandler was married and fathered 8 children with 7 different women. He was also a child rapist and murderer. In short he was a piece of shit. His marriage and kids will never change that. So that's a weak response to u/jax006 comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:40 PM
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Imagine you were a middle ages scientist tasked with building a flying machine for the king. Point of this analogy? Smart people learn from the mistakes of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 11:31 PM
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I've read Why Is Sex Fun by Jared Diamond (author of Guns, Germs and Steel). Though to be fair he's more of an evolutionary biologist in that book.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:42 PM
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Women get used. I mean men lie to them. We string them along, and quite deliberately, by hinting that the "relationship" is going somewhere Speak for yourself, you old git. Massive projection on your part. If you're a cunt to women, it was your choice and you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:38 PM
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Living in a cubicle isn't a healthy life no matter how much money you make. Women are gonna be more attracted to a happy guy who has muscles and gets sunshine, than some pale greasy overworked zombie who is too depressed to even get out of his room in his time off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:21 PM
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I mean women as a group, as each expects you to approach and play the jester in turn. It doesn't last. Sometime around 25-30 the game flips and if you're a half decent guy they start chasing you. In general I don't think playing the jester is a good strategy anyway. It's more effective to be attractive and respond to women's "pick me" hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:11 PM
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If you want to come across like a competent thinker, don't just say "people". Talk about which scholars, which works, which modern-day intelligentsia were influenced. Make a convincing argument. Otherwise you're just parroting dogma you haven't even verified for bullshit. Thomas Piketty wrote Capital in the 21st Century, and while it's not Marxist, it's clearly in Marx's intellectual tradition. But it's got nothing to do with culture -- it's about capital, labor, and exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:48 AM
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As a chad, I doubt you were banging 80+ y.o. grandmas and 300+ pound plus mobility scooter Walmart patrons. Just before we start slinging the word shallow around too quickly, right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:38 PM
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It's not an offshoot of Marx. It's got literally nothing to do with anything he wrote. That's why you'll never find a connection with his written works and you have to rely on looney tunes connections with obscure nobodies like the Frankfurt School. Think of any communist heavyweight -- Lenin, Trotsky, Mao. None of them have any connections to PC culture and SJW nonsense whatsoever. And you still think it's an offshoot or logical iteration?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:08 PM
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Yeah no. "Marx did address culture" -- where? Was it Das Capital or The Communist Manifesto? Can you find a single reference to political correctness in any of Marx's writing? Not to mention Marx was dead by 1883, which preceded the Frankfurt School for decades (as if they were even influential!). From your own links : cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Marx clearly outlined that the source of oppression is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:46 PM
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If you look at pop culture, there's sort of this idea that moral excellence will reward you in love. George McFly goes from a peeping tom to defending Lorraine against bullies (Back to the Future). Bill Murray is stuck in Groundhog Day until he becomes a better person. So on, so forth. RP pushes the blasphemy that male morality is completely extraneous to female attraction. You're right -- most of the game stuff was stolen from the seduction-PUA side of things. But "Red Pill", the real core stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:23 PM
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Chemistry for men = thin, cute, under 25. We don't discuss men's preferences much because at the end of the day, it's not all that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:23 PM
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Marxism is about control of the means of production, labor and capital, and distribution of the benefits of that labor. There is zero connection to culture at all -- it's 100% about class, which is why neoliberals who focus on race and sex hate authentic old-school leftists. Did actual Marxist countries propagate SJW culture? Fuck no. They run over protesters with tanks. "Cultural Marxism" is how 'muricans virtue signal to each other, and absolutely nothing else. The term is an oxymoron. Marx ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:11 PM
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Women in their 20's are in a tough spot. They have an easier time generating attraction. But they don't have the experience to filter out guys who are bad news, and they don't have the luxury to make a decade of mistakes (like men) and still look more or less ok as a LTR prospect. I pretty much wrote off my youth and spent 25-34 in the military. It's a few years since I've been out and I can date women from about 25-35, continues to surprise me. The nice thing is I have the maturity and experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:17 PM
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I think it's plausible. If two people stand to gain by cooperating, they will. If one person can get an even better deal by fucking over the other, some absolutely will. If you're the betrayed party in that situation, you can't be honourable -- you need to punish the defection. Otherwise you're getting played as a chump. Prisoner's dilemma. I didn't really like PUA, RP, etc. I wanted a easy, no-drama committed LTR with a cute girl in her teens-early 20's when I was the same age. I didn't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:34 AM
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I relate to your feelings and I'm a guy. The truth is, I think, that a lot of people are not made for selfless love and monogamy. You need to go against your short-term desires and occasionally subordinate your direct self-interest to that of your family. You need to stomp out all your bad qualities and replace them with virtues -- discipline, drive, patience, restraint, compassion, etc. Most people aren't made for it. On the other hand, women clearly have the upper hand in their teens and 20's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 10:29 AM
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Did you ever see your parents have a social interaction? It's not necessarily formal instruction, kids are sponges and use adults and their home life to build a frame of references for 'normal'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 07:33 PM
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It sounds like many dudes need some ground in basic sales technique That's 'outer game' material from PUA. If you don't get the chance to interact with women when you're younger, and your parents don't pass on any skills, you have to learn somewhere. The problem is when you're selling a fantasy to the women you sleep with, it's impossible to respect them and there's no such thing as authentic connection. But if that's what women want, you have to deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:23 PM
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If your neighborhood is going to shit, chances are it's due to forces beyond your personal control. If you want to extend your metaphor, painting and landscaping your property are not going to reopen the factory that supported your community.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 08:09 AM
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A lot of them have been burned in some way by women, either by being passed over or cucked. Hostility, resentment, defensiveness, and devaluation is a natural reaction. You just don't want to stay there forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 12:06 PM
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I'm sure you get the general idea. It's still possible to get blindsided by a disloyal partner but we definitely want to skew the odds in our favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:28 PM
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You do see the social pressure on her from her friends, mom, sisters though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:04 PM
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They're low loyalty. Women often don't screen hard for character qualities or waive serious personality flaws because they're more tuned into what their friends think (see the reddit link below). Do you think women are immune from status seeking? A lot of guys who don't just have red flags -- they are transparently bad people. Women who date them are incredibly stupid and I don't see those male betrayals as anything but predictable. It's like the frog and the scorpion fable. https://www.reddit.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:47 PM
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It's prisoner's dilemma stuff. Both cooperate = supportive and enduring relationship from a young age One defects = Starter wives and AF/BB, both end in divorce Both defect = power games and hookups that finally lead to nothing lasting. Both are trying to care less because trust doesn't exist. I read a great article on this a long time ago. It's actually a good way to understand why dating is so hard now... "Sexy 20's, settle in 30's" is feminism pushing a script men see as defection and RP stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:37 PM
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Off topic but is your username a reference to the Metric song "Combat Baby"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:16 PM
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Do you think pairing off itself creates value? You support each other, don't waste a lot of time dating, and look like a more serious person to your peers. Staying in the dating game for decades is going to be draining in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 04:14 AM
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Well so do gorillas. In good faith discussion the idea is to grasp what's implied rather than get bogged down in pedantry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:26 PM
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It's a quote from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 07:36 AM
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'Be excellent to each other' 👍 Works for me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 12:50 PM
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No it's not. It's better to have a job or an activity with a high rate of social turnover.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:07 AM
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I've slept with a mother, I know. My point is your body isn't a car you're reselling when you're done with it. Having children is one of the most meaningful life experiences for a lot of people. So it's more of a choice with pros and cons isn't it? Framing it as a sacrifice seems quite dramatic to me... at 60 nobody's going to be excited over any woman's body anyway right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:02 PM
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She sacrifices them for her children, her husband, her own desire to be a mother This just seems like generalized fear of aging. Which is going to happen anyway. All women get older, become less hot, end of story. Sure you can avoid "sacrificing" your looks but you'll just end up a somewhat hotter 40-something. Which opens doors to what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 05:38 PM
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The roots of the manosphere are firmly entrenched in the world of PUA. I believe it was Mystery who said a successful pickup requires two things: attraction and comfort. That's why "building rapport" was a big part of what they practiced as well. If you don't establish both it's not going to move forward. Maybe one thing you're missing is a lot of manosphere guys aren't that interested in picking up. They either want to play social scientist or just whine on the internet in like-minded company. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 06:04 PM
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This sub isn't a haven of journalistic integrity. And here I thought you were speaking truth to power? Anyway I'll fuck off now. Cheerio
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/19 07:11 PM
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I'm sure you know the difference between calling out bad behaviour, and projecting bad behaviour where it doesn't exist. I remember someone writing an entire paragraph imagining some girl's sordid history in great detail. Only problem, it turned out to be a guy. Nobody bothered to check! So clearly, your dedicated 'hamster analysts' aren't infallible. It would be in your interest to keep wild projection and strawman to a minimum -- the bigger this sub gets, the more your community will drink the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/19 05:01 PM
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I think it's easy to go down the rabbit hole talking about this stuff. Long story short, one thing everybody can agree on: be careful who you date
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 09:47 PM
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Brevity, man. You basically have a prisoner's dilemma taking place between the sexes across society right now. Mutual cooperation = early committment and loyalty from both partners Male defection = Soak up a committed woman's support, later ditch her for a younger model Female defection = Spend your youth on other men, pressure committment at 30+ Mutual defection = both partners forego commitment entirely You can observe and explain this without any divisive language or polarization at all. In f…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 04:56 PM
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Mid 30s and never had a lasting relationship. I feel that. If you can't trust your family, it's hard to trust anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 02:36 PM
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These things always die. Remember how trendy PUA was 10-15 years ago? The good ideas were rebranded as common sense and the flaky ones are social suicide. Being careful about committment has never been stupid either. Getting burned existed long, long before the 21st century...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 02:26 PM
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You're right, PPD is more my speed. I don't like having to accept anybody's philosophy to participate in a sub. Cheers, good luck anyway.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 02:18 PM
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Edit: You know what, on further reflection this sub isn't for me. Cheers
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 02:11 PM
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Who the fuck are you to claim that MGTOW isn’t valid? MGTOW is trash dude. It's 100% an echo chamber, like any other safe space that removes a lot of dissenting comments. If you haven't noticed on Reddit, echo chambers can be very popular. I wouldn't correlate quality with # of subs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 01:53 PM
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I think you guys have a choice to make. Edgy sub that "speaks truth to power" from a subjective male perspective, or a more objective sub that showcases dating failure combined with female entitlement and as little editorializing as possible. The latter can be taken seriously, the first cannot (and it's not revolutionary). You can't have it both ways. This sub won't reach its potential unless you kill the last vestiges of MGTOW-ism and Roosh/Rollo style soapboxing. We're never lived in a time wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 01:31 PM
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All biological creatures are naturally prone to instinct. If AWALT has value, it's basically this. Rationality, self-awareness and self-control counterbalance instinct, but they don't negate it. It really shouldn't be as controversial as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:04 PM
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Not really an answer but men tend to be outspokenly aggressive, while women are more covert. Women are always going to look less dickish but it doesn't mean bad sentiments can't be there. Reference the CB post with the girl unloading on her "friend" https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/comments/aqvvf5/at_a_loss_how_this_turned_out_this_escalated/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 01:59 PM
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I don't feel like equals when I have to constantly feed a woman's addiction to drama, which includes unattainability. You are serving women a fantasy like a stripper working a client. Here's your choice when dating drama addicts, who are way overrepresented in the dating pool. Do you want to be the emotionally unavailable man who these women carry a torch for, or be on the receiving end of the "he's great, but..." story? Props to this woman for being self-aware and realizing she's going nowhere,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/19 01:45 PM
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It went a little further than that. Remember Andrea Dworkin and "all sex is rape"? Almost anything is crazy when taken to extremes, and that definitely includes aspects of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:31 AM
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Hugo Schweizer for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 03:06 AM
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What's the saying? "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment" 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 07:37 PM
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Venmo me 5$ and I'll show you a rough projection
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 07:23 PM
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clutches pearls
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 06:50 PM
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I'm not a fan of the "women bad" soapboxing in places like this one, but I feel like there's a lot of emotion invested in delegitimizing more problematic male preferences. The reality is it's not going to work on a society-wide scale. Women are trying to have it both ways... fun 20's and committed LTR in your 30's. Spend any time in r/datingoverthirty and it's obvious it's very, very difficult to get men to buy in. The dating game is at an impasse for a lot of people, and the frustration is obvi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/19 04:17 PM
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Using any manosphere-style terminology will get you banned at that sub. I'm more a fan of open discussion. Because even I can recognize a broken clock is right twice a day, guys... 🙄
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/19 11:51 AM
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I'm saying there's probably other options
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:46 AM
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I'm not sure women love modern dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:41 AM
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you mean hasn’t had sex before him Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. I didn't read your title well. Men are possessive. A guy who's ok discussing or thinking about his wife getting railed as a young woman seems unmasculine, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:26 AM
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If he's not open and honest about things that might upset you, you don't really have any idea who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:13 AM
1

Guys can make an effort to be top men; just like women can make an effort to be exclusive to their primary partner. Historically there's a prisoner's dilemma in partnering. Both partners cooperate by being more or less exclusive and subsuming individual outcomes to the good of their future family. Men are supposed to become loyal hard workers, women are supposed to be faithful and supportive wives. In this context, there's a lot of ways to defect. But more relevant to this sub, the cultural scri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:06 AM
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I guess then the thought arises; would your partner still love you if they knew you better? I don't think I would so I think I'll just not have any serious relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 02:56 AM
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Because you don't get 100% acceptance without 100% honesty. Being able to share who you really are with your partner is one of the only things in an intimate relationship that can't exist anywhere else Trying to maintain a LTR or marriage where your sexual past constantly threatens to despoil everything you've built sounds torturous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 01:27 AM
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Nice to see what kids learn in school these days 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 01:11 AM
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"I'll fuck sluts but not marry them" - u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III That's some innovative thinking, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:44 PM
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If you're interested in big L love and investing your youth in building a relationship and the foundation for a family, women getting sidetracked by casual sex works against your chances of finding a like-minded partner. I'm thinking of pursuing Ltr's after college and marriage most likely in my late thirties. I'd strongly suggest tempering your opinion after another decade or so of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:40 PM
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idiot tries to pass on a double yellow when I'm already speeding, I stupidly speed up to mess with him So he was an idiot, you were an idiot, your combined idiocy almost killed an uninvolved 3rd party, and you're surprised your GF checked out after that?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/19 02:52 PM
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The police in your example are men too. But they don't count, for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 12:42 PM
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if the picture which are painted online is just a completely incorrect one. For sure. In real life I'm chill, charismatic, athletic, whatever. Once I get online I look at divisive gender politics stuff and generally come off like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 11:02 AM
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Work --> Gym --> Sleep, is not going to do it for the guy in question. Unattractive grinding lifestyles break up marriages. Following your passions, though -- women admire and respect that. Getting out of the rat race will be a good thing for a guy who isn't happy there, regardless of his situation with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 10:02 PM
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Look for women who are kind and communities that are supportive. Don't waste your time on revenge... expand your world and find the kind of people you wish you'd known then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 07:08 PM
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 07:06 PM
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It was within your power, all this time, to not be a loser, but you were a loser anyway More likely it's the parents who are at fault for not putting a priority on appropriately socializing their child. This shit is already in full swing at 12+ years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 05:36 PM
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I'm going to link an essay for you. Make your own conclusions http://www.mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:19 PM
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Damn, I'm loving these PPD poetry slams
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:29 PM
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What do you want me to say? I don't believe war is a social good, and I participated in that too. Here's a story that made an impression on me. I saw two sketchy popular guys at my uni once take home a chick from a party who was absolutely smashed. You're not getting anywhere by moralizing at me, or them. But I can keep her out of those situations by outcompeting guys like that; and I might not even hit it when she's wasted so I can later be told I don't deserve a cookie by some haranguing onlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:22 PM
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Pew Research is awesome as they deal mostly in data rather than opinion. So at least there can be consensus on a few points.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:40 PM
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We're in the time of the shitposters, sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:38 PM
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Am I cynical even by PPD standards? That's bad 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:30 PM
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I'm qualified to answer this one, as I took a pass on casual sex for a long time as a young man. Bottom line is that if it's not you, it's probably going to be someone even worse. You aren't doing anybody favors by trying to be above the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:28 PM
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Because women's value is frontloaded, as long as men prioritize youth in a way women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:11 PM
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Yeah, hopefully he grows up and doesn't make every decision with his dick. Women can also be attractive into their 30's. Just won't usually inspire the same levels of desire so it's less motivation to get things started.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:23 PM
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That's assuming all men don't have loyalty or personal investment in LTRs. If that's the case, your logic is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:32 PM
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Red : People are horrible Blue: You in particular are horrible Purple: Boredom is horrible, please argue with me on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:44 PM
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30+ women who aren't getting the attention they desire, mostly. It's a slightly classier way of projecting 'men are trash' than admitting she lacked the foresight to anticipate diminishing male interest
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:42 PM
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Then it's an internal constraint, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:46 AM
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Well, that's why marriage is dying
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:31 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:26 AM
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Sure they do. But do you really expect 1960's levels of husbandly devotion with women who want to act like 2010's party girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 09:22 PM
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That's not anywhere near an answer. Median age of marriage used to be around 20 in the sixties, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:40 PM
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Why didn't she marry her two threesome partners? They're clearly more secure and 'man enough' than these other hypothetical relationship prospects 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:32 PM
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Women don't want to be the source of men's validation. This a sign of a self-centered woman and it makes her a bad prospect for a LTR. As you wrote below: The prostitute won't make him feel attractive, the high Ncount girlfriend won't make him feel valuable and the career woman is going to be too busy to validate him at all. Why would you devote yourself to a partner who doesn't care about your feelings? If there's no loyalty or love, there's no logical rationale in commiting to a long-term part…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:21 PM
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0 partners squad That's a much cooler name for it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 12:59 PM
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Japanese samurai could ritually disembowel themselves in the pursuit of honor. I'm pretty sure I could avoid fucking some bar slut when I had a committed and loving partner back home.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 03:24 PM
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It's not a long story. Young girl gets used by an alpha Young girl never gets over it Young girl resents men forever The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:21 PM
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Time to start flexing that brain muscle in the library 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:27 PM
3

Your brother and friends sound like 00's era pickup artists
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:10 AM
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I think it's important to recognize feminism is two different things. It encompasses universal human rights, which I think most sane people would support. But it's also the nom de guerre for how some women are trying to reorient western societies towards their own ideals of power and control as it relates to men -- especially in the sexual marketplace. And that's produced the reactions by men you see showcased here on PPD every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 10:31 PM
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It would be extremely inappropriate to say that a woman. I know more than a few men who act warm and friendly towards women and have some ruthlessly misogynist attitudes they don't exactly advertise... it's like being the next notch on their bedpost diminishes the women they interact with even to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 04:17 PM
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All that talk is metaphorical. Put into less socially maladaptive terms, it means your most formative intimate experiences were with other people, and to many men that's off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:46 PM
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I have way better response from women after I became a committed surfer. Better than lifting and a lot more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 02:48 PM
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Well marriage is more or less over. Guys are voting with their feet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:21 PM
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There's men who can fuck a lot of puss but don't command the respect of men in any other way. I know a dude like this, he's fucked. Watches Netflix all day, constantly broke and asking for money, can't do basic shit like use a chef's knife, lives in a basement with no windows, sleeps until 2pm on the reg, etc. But he parties a lot, has good style and is a former athelete, so there will always be some party girl or stupid chick willing to suck dick and get on her back for him. That's the dream? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:17 PM
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Nah, I like it. Malcontents and misfits belong somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:32 PM
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Discussion is a lot more interesting since you don't have voting or usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 08:32 PM
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Go on 4chan, they use it all the time with some modifiers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:10 PM
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To put things in perspective, if he veered as far from the norm towards being short as he did towards being tall, he'd be all of 5'1".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:24 PM
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Hey, I think I see what's going on. The last one charted frequency tried to put a quota out for me. People tend to focus on what made their last relationships flame out, and this sounds like a big issue in your last. It's controlling and dehumanizing behavior, frankly, and that's going to give you issues moving forward. Right now you're coming off as damaged goods because sex is probably the central bonding activity in most sexual pairings, and your last ex has subverted that for you. It may tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:23 AM
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It's ok buddy. I get your joke 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 11:07 AM
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How about you read between the lines instead of playing gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 08:54 PM
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Makes sense. They can't dominate men physically or psychologically, so they seek a male partner to do so by proxy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:57 PM
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Sounds like they deserve each other, they both see sex as a low-investment recreational activity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 09:38 AM
1

Well wages are low, true. But it's a nice place to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:17 AM
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I've met lots of Brazilians in Portugal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:45 PM
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Personally I don't see much return on work as a single guy. I trade my health and potential to live in a little box and buy consumer products? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:45 PM
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Men see staying or leaving your child as a core character trait, not a choice. You're either responsible and duty-oriented, or you're not. Given this, the responsibility falls upon the woman to choose a man of good character. You might disagree with this, I'm not taking a side here. I'm just describing the thought process as I'd see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:45 AM
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It's an acronym
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 09:20 PM
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It's one thing to say what we should do, it's another to embrace that with enthusiasm. It's going to be like the 80's "Sensitive New Age Guy" (SNAG) thing, or 00's male feminists. It's been said before. It'll never stick.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 09:45 AM
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But in a different sense probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 06:08 PM
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The internet was bound to be overrun by conformist scum once it became popular. Pay no heed to these small-minded bufoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:55 PM
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Incorrect Check the definitions my man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:50 PM
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Charisma is salesmanship. Of course it's relevant. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "silver-tongued devil"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 01:30 PM
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You should not conflate personality (charisma) with character (virtue). They aren't they same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 01:22 PM
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It's 100% going to devolve into the mods sucking each other's dicks and wildly soapboxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 06:28 PM
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Small difference in that "good" is seen as an objective quality wheras "suitable" is clearly defined around the subject in question. So there's a locus of control implication in there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:57 PM
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Dump her, or at least start the process that implies it. Gym, new clothes, more active social life, etc. She's either going to start giving a fuck, or leave. You're just making yourself look pathetic and weak negotiating for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:15 AM
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Isn't it cheaper to live in a couple than be single? I've always thought women in their 20's were more interested in independence or holding out for a better option. If you really want to be in a couple, obstacles are just challenges to be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 09:23 AM
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I don't follow your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 02:46 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-skZx5liyaM "Making moves" implies initiative. Clearly it's on the woman's side here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 02:00 PM
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You don't get women by "making moves". You get women by being desired. If a woman has any kind of interest and isn't a ball of anxiety, she's going to be working to push things forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:30 AM
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I cast Magic Missile!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 10:13 PM
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They really are 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 02:31 PM
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We have a lot of cultural messaging in Anglo countries that fairness matters and effort and altruism will be rewarded. The benefit of that is it produces cooperative persons with a strong work ethic. That is usually to the benefit and strength of our society. Conversely, if you understand a narrative that you will never receive compensation commesurate to your efforts, it's going to discourage people. The social priority is thus to maintain everyone's cooperation, not solve the romantic woes of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:07 PM
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There's always going to be pressure to project a certain image, and that performance of sexuality gets in the way of expression and authenticity. So some of the most repressed and confused women I've met were also the most outwardly promiscuous. I think the best girls in bed are either "good girls" (who want high levels of comfort with their guy) or BPD (no mood regulation so they get swept up in the moment). Maybe that doesn't answer you question but it's just my 2¢.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 02:57 PM
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I've been banned on r-surfing for participating here. I like the conversation about sex and dating in our changing world, but it attracts a lot of static.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 06:14 PM
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Charmingly argumentative. :D Take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:49 AM
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You were talking about peer status games among women, not talking about dating someone you find attractive and love. Which I support, like any sane person would. I think young women should date the people they find attractive and love -- young, old, black, white, male, female, etc. That's not narcissistic manuevering amongst rivals, that's self-expression and freedom. Similarly, I think I should be able to date who I find attractive and love. If that's younger women who are consenting adults, ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:56 PM
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vain, stupid, childish I think I've got better things to do than cater to some immature woman's egocentrism. Unless a woman is attractive, kind, well-grounded and loyal, she is not partnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:13 AM
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I spent last weekend with a girl 9 years younger than me. Working professional in her 20's/grad student. Post-undergrad girls don't have "rivals" to impress, they might still read 50 Shades but I think they're not so impressionable. Any girl that doesn't get past that is having issues maturing and is headed for a crash. So while I think you do have a point, past about 21-22 that shit doesn't matter so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:14 PM
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You can't really fault young women for their choices. This isn't really done in public, socially it lacks grace, but men will absolutely fault young women on their choices by denying commitment to them. Anyways... are we in violent agreement? Young women do a lot of status jockeying. They tease each other, they judge each other, they compete for the same things (which are usually the same high-status peers in their social circle). As an older man, you want to meet women with a lot of independenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 06:06 AM
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What would a quality young woman be doing at a frat party? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:10 PM
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This is garbage tier game for a 36-year old man. At that age you should be living the kind of interesting life that frat bros can't touch. Speak multiple languages, lived in multiple countries, travel to places that aren't defined by package tourism, have worked in interesting careers, have passions that define you, blah blah blah. Sure you won't be playing beer pong with your average 18 year old party slut. Then again, do I really want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:04 PM
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I'm saying attractiveness here is more about social positioning than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:10 PM
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Girls in HS and college have very insular social circles, and their values are usually reflective of their peers. So do frat boys have more value then? Absolutely. But it doesn't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:41 AM
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caring deeply, becoming incredibly steeped in depression This is you dude. You're indulging a compulsive habit of over-analysis, in order to not feel as trapped in your current situation as you do. At some point you will have to admit this is a shitty coping strategy that isn't helping. Then it's a choice -- do you want to live your best life, even if it's a lot of work and not everything you hoped for? Or are you going to just say "fuck it" and squander your potential wherever your feelings tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 12:24 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 12:06 AM
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Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 11:50 PM
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Boring conversation anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 11:39 PM
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" -- George Bernard Shaw
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 07:24 PM
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man" George Bernard Shaw
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 07:24 PM
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I was very idealistic and romantic-minded when I was younger. Had my head in the clouds a lot, really liked Tolkien and his mythologies. In particular his story about Beren and Luthien. Having one love (and only one love!) is intense. I don't think it's normal. But there's definitely people like that. Almost worked for me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 04:41 PM
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Tall, dark and handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:33 PM
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You sure about that? I think internet and video game addiction is as often a response to social rejection as the cause of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:14 PM
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Sure you have to find new friends That's where the conversation is more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 12:01 AM
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You can re-socialize yourself. But the cost will probably be a rupture with your old friends and family. At that point it's not just getting laid that's an issue, it's where does a completely atomized individual like that ever find a community.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:46 PM
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