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Body shaming is not what I have ever heard women say they need help from men with. It’s the violence and over-sexualization and harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:11 AM

So your problem is that he is sad that people recognize he is not as attractive as her? I thought that was obvious? That doesn’t mean people are against them being together or somehow demonizing their relationship. He is objectively not as nice to look at as she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:23 PM

Well if you have to search for that. You can find nearly anything you want by searching Google. That doesn’t mean it’s the most common or average opinion. You would prefer women to be a hive mind and all think the same exact thing so it’s easier for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:34 PM

I have only seen women praise him for how he loves her and goes out of his way to make her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:26 PM

A lot of those “exceptional” men from history stole works from women. Exceptional ability is not exclusive to men, that’s a mythology that men built around themselves. Women were excluded because of their sex, even when they did accomplish things far beyond their male peers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_effect The Matilda effect is a bias against acknowledging the achievements of women scientists and inventors, whose work is consequently attributed to their male colleagues Examples : Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:36 AM

Men are not represented at the bottom. Women worldwide have higher rates of poverty and they make up 2/3rds of the worlds modern enslaved population, either out of trafficking or desperation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century The Global Slavery Index (2018) estimated that roughly 40.3 million individuals are currently caught in modern slavery, with 71% of those being female, and 1 in 4 being children.[131][132] As of 2018, the countries with the most slaves were: India (8…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:15 PM

It absolutely is the case, why would it mean that no men are at the bottom? That’s not how anything works lol advantage is never given equally, don’t be silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:05 PM

You can’t declare that men are “more likely” to do exceptional things when the men deny autonomy to other groups who are also capable of doing exceptional things. That doesn’t make them “more likely”, it means that only they have historically been granted the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:02 PM

Then why is the offspring referred to as the father’s “legacy”? He doesn’t raise them, birth them or carry them for 9 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:13 PM

Also that you should just want to do those jobs because it’s so important to society, but we aren’t going to pay you for any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:50 PM
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My point was there is no way that guarantees a woman will receive an orgasm. Straight women do not have orgasms during hookups, or through penetration alone regardless of how attractive the man is. Per your own sources; Men's attractiveness predicted their female partner's copulatory orgasm frequency, although men's partners assessed attractiveness, so orgasm may have caused women to find their partners more attractive, rather than the reverse (Shackelford et al., 2000). In another study, women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:07 PM
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Sex is not more enjoyable for women just because a man is attractive. That is true for men, but women are not going to orgasm because a man is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:28 PM
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You’re right but they don’t want to hear it. They would rather fantasize about women being cheated on https://news.gallup.com/poll/656708/lgbtq-identification-rises.aspx The recent increase is largely due to more adults in their late teens, 20s and 30s -- particularly young women -- saying they are bisexual. But younger adults are also more likely than older adults to identify as lesbian, gay, transgender or other nonheterosexual orientations. The rate of LGBTQ+ identification is likely to conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:05 PM
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It’s been explained to death why that one dating app study from 20 years ago doesn’t apply to reality today. FAR more men are single than women. Women aren't going single en masse, they're just dating the same dudes and then blaming it on the ones who have nothing to do with how they were treated. That’s the part I was responding to. It’s wrong. The majority of women aren’t entertaining men at all. They are dating each other, bisexual or gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:29 PM
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It’s not true. Lots of gen z women and millennials are bisexual. “Almost 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, most as bisexual,” Jeffrey Jones, a senior editor at Gallup, told NBC News. “That’s where a lot of the growth seems to be happening.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nearly-30-gen-z-women-identify-lgbtq-gallup-survey-finds-rcna143019
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:14 PM
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The women are dating each other. “Almost 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBTQ+, most as bisexual,” Jeffrey Jones, a senior editor at Gallup, told NBC News. “That’s where a lot of the growth seems to be happening.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nearly-30-gen-z-women-identify-lgbtq-gallup-survey-finds-rcna143019
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:13 PM
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Being aggressively policed where? And that does not mean any behavior has changed. Most hasn’t. You’re saying women haven’t had severe social pressures from birth, to the benefit of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:34 PM
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Or maybe the men could change their behavior for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:10 PM
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Seeing as how each state is legislating this medication differently, it’s a pretty silly question, there isn’t a way to quantify this yet. It’s absolutely “cataclysmic” for some people since they are literally dying. They meaning women, which is probably why you lot seem to think it’s just fine. No one has moved any goalposts, I provided you with a wide variety of information about all the different diseases that people who have no interest in being pregnant are being affected by, and therefore …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 08:43 AM
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Could you explain to me why the consequences would have to be “cataclysmic” before they are considered harmful and incorrect? I suppose we could wait until we have hundreds of thousands of people unintentionally harmed, more women dying of sepsis. The fact that these laws already vary by state effect different people in different ways. https://www.theregreview.org/2023/04/22/dolbow-patent-law-could-also-limit-mifepristone-access/ Currently, overlapping regulations create a precarious balance tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:55 PM
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This is not true. Anyone who uses the medication that is used for abortions (mifpristone, misoprostol, etanercept, and methotrexate) are affected. This includes as an emergency contraceptive and for people who use it to treat cushings disease, as these drugs are more than an abortifacient. One of these is also used to treat soldiers with gulf war illness because it blocks cortisol in higher doses, another two for arthritis, etc. So with the laws changing in different states, people are having di…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:55 PM
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The men at the gym literally have their nipples out. What gym are you going to where women are in tank tops with their tits out the arm holes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:08 AM
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Definitely occurs all the time in the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:53 PM
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Hahaha this is nonsense. It’s like you have never been inside a gym and are basing your opinion of them off manosphere YouTube videos. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:51 PM
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No, most women do not have casual sex. Having a one night stand does not mean you have casual sex. Women have friends with benefits or they fuck someone they know and trust. It’s not random hookups because they are also less likely to orgasm with random hookups. I will link you a source that another red pill man posted elsewhere in this thread https://pleasurebetter.com/orgasm-statistics/ Women in a relationship of 6+ months are more than 6 times as likely to orgasm during a sexual encounter tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:00 PM
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Which is why women will turn down an attractive man if he’s untrustworthy or potentially dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:51 PM
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Having a one night stand and regretting it is not the same thing as a “cock carousel” of dudes being used for casual sex. https://www.womens-health.com/sex-statistics-by-age-gender-relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:30 PM
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They can’t do that because they gamify everything and it would ruin their chances to fuck as many women as they can. That’s why they cast such a wide net to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:27 PM
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This actually explains most relationships, why women feel used for sex and labor, because men use them for sex and labor. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:38 PM
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Being sexually open is reserved for men and always has been. The rates of orgasm for women in straight relationships is abysmal across the board. It’s the lowest of everyone, attractive partner or not. There’s shame, pain, pregnancy, stds risk, and still no orgasm, things that men don’t even think about when their dick is soft, let alone hard, so of course they are sexually open. It’s why there are no standards about where they’ll put their dick in the first place. If you didn’t get to have an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:31 PM
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I’ve been told by redpill men that it’s not true for men because they have biological instincts to sleep with as many women as possible so they have evolved out of that or something. Here’s an example of this on Reddit : https://np.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/xwb5zd/is_redpill_right_about_pair_bonding/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:19 AM
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I have turned down men I found attractive. Men focus way more on superficial traits than women do and are far more likely to be interested in sex at the drop of a hat. The level of attractiveness of the man doesn’t change the risk of std or pregnancy if a condom breaks. Surely doesn’t mean I am more likely to have an orgasm, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:37 AM
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Most women don’t have casual sex. It’s a different risk versus reward for women. There’s no likelihood you’ll have an orgasm, and at the same time taking on all of the risk of std and pregnancy or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:15 PM
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No, only women lose their ability to pair bond because of biology or something. It’s always a one sided thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:55 PM
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Are you new here? The dudes here constantly use “dating” and “relationships” as a euphemism for sex. There are probably some here who would genuinely prefer a long term relationship, but the most of them are devastated they can’t have casual sex like women can, have the options women do, with the same effort as women. There’s a lot of pretense involved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:53 PM

I call bullshit. Autistic women learn social skills by social pressure from a young age. Your peers always know something is amiss, boys and girls alike, it’s very hard until you learn. This is why girls get such late diagnoses. There’s a lot less social pressure on boys, and less focus on misbehavior. Boys are expected to act out. Source : I am neurodivergent and didn't know until my late 20’s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:33 PM

They are called social skills for a reason, they can be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:36 PM

They had whole other families, what are you talking about? Business men away on “work trips”, or military men out on deployment in another country fathered and funded many more children than would be feasible today with inflation. Getting away with it until someone dies or tries to go looking wasn’t unheard of. Just the advent of DNA testing has changed how easily men get caught. https://thednageek.com/war-babes/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:13 AM

Please quote where I said he has to be anything of the sort. There is immense risk for women, which is why we casually fuck people we trust/know. Usually a friend or ex lover where only the sex was good but nothing else worked out. Doesn’t matter what you look like, it’s not like you’re planning to have kids with this person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:55 AM

They literally aren’t a higher standard for me or any woman I know. Being sexually compatible and trustworthy regarding sexual health etc is literally the only requirement. You can be below average in looks, intelligence and ambition, and have no value to add to a relationship and still be suitable for a fwb situation. Being trustworthy and sexually compatible being the only requirement is usually why women only casually sleep with people they know or have dated in the past. Not worth the risk t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:33 AM

Maybe try reading the comment again. Men prioritizing their own orgasm over that of their female partner when toys exist is selfish. Trying to blame women for having anatomy that isn’t as “easy” as their dipstick is selfish, if they want to fuck women. Having a quickie is not an excuse to neglect your partner’s orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:26 AM

It doesn’t have to be that way in the modern era though. There are all kinds of toys and techniques you can perform in order to prioritize the female orgasm. There is no excuse really, other than selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:36 AM

This is a very overlooked aspect. If the orgasms were as easy (or guaranteed) with the same small effort, (like it is for men) it might make it worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:51 PM

Oh sure, there are probably some men that get away with it for years, but if you think that women can’t tell when the sex drops off or the man changes his behavior and causes her to suspect cheating that she won’t start looking for signs, maybe you are the one who is biased by the stories you hear from cheating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:23 PM

No, I just know how frequently divorces are initiated by women because men are caught cheating all the time, waaaay before they would ever divorce a woman they hate. Sugar babies and only fans are some of the most frequently cited paper trails these days, but you can continue to believe that men who are sneaky never get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:12 PM

I am not married but I might as well have been, since we were together for over 7 years. There were times we went without sex because of health issues, or if he or I wasn’t in the mood. You can do the mature adult thing and go take care of it yourself instead of shaming your partner into servicing you like a car or something. It’s deeply unsexy to throw a fit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:08 PM

That’s up to the man, I suppose. Maybe with some sexually transmitted disease? Messages on his phone regarding transactions? Missing money from a joint account? Arrested for indecent exposure and solicitation? Some men get caught in the act. Happens frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:05 PM
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This is a huge reason among the women I know, in a blue state. Casual hookups are off the table because of all the undercover conservative men even though we have protections statewide.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:12 PM
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Without romance or sex. I am neither asexual or aromantic. I think this is probably far more likely for the majority of women than you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:10 PM

No it’s not “owed” in a relationship. Sex is not duty of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:07 PM

Because sex and all the risks are higher for women. This is true for pregnancy, STI’s and accidents during sex like skin tearing. Maybe if it was a risk-free endeavor, we would have evolved to be less picky but that isn’t how our biology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:05 PM

There is nothing anatomically preventing women from having quickies. Lesbians do it all the time, it’s a matter of prioritization as she explained above. Men are prioritizing their orgasm always.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:02 PM

When he gets caught and divorced, he’s gonna be stuck with prostitutes and washing his own dishes and underwear. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:59 PM

They think they are going to force us to be with them, or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:36 PM
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So penetration is humiliating? Why would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:16 PM
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You are exactly right. Of course they aren’t going to listen to you, either. The risk of harm is always higher for the receiver. Wish I could give you an award. 🏆
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:13 PM

As a bi woman, it’s the same with tits. Everyone loves some big ol’ tiddies, but there is no way I am kicking someone out of bed for having itty bitty tiddies either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah, it’s typically catastrophizing how men are failing and “falling behind”, how terrible it is that no one is dating and getting married and most importantly having babies, it’s framed as some tragic thing that’s only occurring to men instead of something that is actually good for women. The real reason this is happening is because of the political divide between men and women, since women don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t share the same values and beliefs. Men don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:27 PM
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No, instead of watching a single news segment and making sweeping generalizations, why not use statistics about the success women are finding as single women? That seems like a really good place to start, seeing as how the only way men can “fall behind” is if women are making headway. In my experience there is no lack of “proposals”, it’s just that women have redirected their energy into endeavors that benefit them. I don’t know any women who are pining over men, that seems to have been another …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:17 AM
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No, we are opting out, you choose to believe news stories that have been written to fill a time slot. Most women are succeeding in their own lives and that’s why more single women own their homes by themselves than men do, have more college degrees than men do, and they aren’t exactly putting any of that stuff on the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:56 AM

I’ve got a lot of friends who are men who are not misogynistic and vote blue, and those are the ones I know that don’t have a problem finding casual sex, but they don’t hold a lot of the toxic conservative values about “virginal purity” or what have you that you hear about here. I think the mismatch when it comes to casual sex for women, is that women don’t participate in casual sex with strangers at the same level that men like to, but they will have casual sex with friends, both with other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:36 AM
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Marriage has been a pretty unequal endeavor and now that women can choose to avoid the unpaid labor, they have done so in favor of paid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:18 AM

Attraction is not always a superficial thing tied to the way someone looks or sex. There is a lot of evidence that just being around someone you find average can become the most attractive person to you through their personality and other traits. There is over a dozen types of attraction and sometimes it takes a while for it to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:04 AM

This says way more about the kind of people you choose to associate with. I don’t know many men who would discuss this with their friends to begin with, but maybe this is more to do with age/maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:56 AM

No one thinks it’s bad. You just have to accept that the reason it’s difficult for men is because women don’t like to participate in casual sex as much as men do. This is why a lot of red pill men will trick women they hate into relationships because it’s easier to have consistent access to regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:54 AM

It doesn’t, but that’s not the discussion. The separation between sexual desire and love are improtant as they are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:50 AM

The majority of women who have fuck buddies are finding them as friends or lovers first. Lots of amicable breakups where the sex is the only thing that worked out, or with friends who are trusted and have similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:47 AM

Right, but that’s not related to love in most ways, especially when you are adults who work full time and have children. The feet-kicking fits men have about ending their relationships because they aren’t “loved” when it’s really more about coercing their wife into servicing them out of duty is just just pathetic. Love and lust are not the same thing, which is why most married women cry about affection instead, because that is showing love and has nothing to do with sexual contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:15 AM

They believe that men get better with age, as opposed to women who hit a wall at the same age
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:04 AM

The problem is you are focusing on the wrong things again. I’m sure for some women, fucking a hot guy for one night is a thrill, but that is not a requirement. That hot guy might be a slob who’s illiterate and a complete idiot but if he seems nonviolent and trustworthy he could get lucky for a night.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:53 PM

Seems like a bunch of comments on Reddit. How do you know they are women? Do you speak to any women you know in real life about this sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:45 PM

I think you are confusing open marriages with polycules. I have known people to open their marriages after a threesome or general dead bedrooms, only for the men to find out they aren’t as attractive to other women as they thought they were because of modern dating apps and dating disparities as you get older. Polycules where I live have far more same sex couples and aren’t preoccupied with ownership of another persons body parts. Maybe that’s more a queer thing? Lots of bisexuals in polycules h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:38 PM

This is simply not true. Another one of those things that is easily disproven if you just go to a public place where you can see anyone coupled up. In my experience, even the most unattractive people can find themselves in polycules but I live in a blue state where there is less taboo about that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:27 PM

They aren’t. lol this is redpill mythology, it’s definitely not true in reality. If it were true, you’d see way more women with younger men and that’s not common at all. Most fuck buddies I have had were not even my type, but were friends first and most important trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:20 PM

I’m sure if you took the advice that men give women here and lower your standards, you could also find a woman to fuck. Probably even regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:15 PM

You know if that was the correct conclusion, don’t you think you guys would be more successful in helping each other out? It seems that either you overestimate their intelligence or your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:10 PM

Wrong again. Why do you guys think there are more requirements for a fuck buddy than a husband? There are far less. I’ve had fuck buddies I would never be with long term, that’s why they were fuck buddies. They don’t have to be anything other than a good and trustworthy friend who is upfront and obviously sexually compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:09 PM

To them, sex is love and closeness and intimacy. They don’t think they are different things. That’s why married men will often cry about their wives not initiating, because it makes them feel undesired and they equate that to being unloved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:02 PM

It’s literally not something women discuss, this is something men are extremely focused on because they are obsessed with sex but are insecure at their lack of ability to get it, so they don’t want any women they desire to have more experience than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:51 PM

This is only really telling about your experience with adult relationships and not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:45 PM

I don’t concern myself with men who are preoccupied with sexual history to begin with. I don’t know how you can conclude that women who think like me are sexually promiscuous and have been somehow sidelined by “highly sexually experienced, secure, gifted men”, since all of those qualities are extremely uncommon to find together in one man to begin with. Plus I thought the justification for male promiscuity was the “genetic predisposition” to wanting novelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:42 PM

This is my reality as well as for a few of my friends and we have also stopped dating altogether because of the quality issues and just general mistreatment. You are somehow less human the more they want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:26 PM

Why is this upsetting to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:05 PM

Core values, ambition and belief systems are not optional for relationships. The superficial things that are the focus here are the things that are optional but no one wants to believe women when they say that for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:03 PM

That was never up for debate, it’s how sexual selection works for nearly all species. It’s not unique to humans at all. Sex does not equal a compatible relationship, men on this subreddit just want easy sex and no responsibility for their own genetic material.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:00 PM
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They don’t see the deception as anything other than “part of the game”, which is why they are definitely not ready to talk about coercion as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:10 AM
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What does this have to do with your previous unfounded statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:03 AM
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Said without even a hint of irony. We are so cooked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:58 AM
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This is obviously bullshit if you just go outside to a mall and see shitload of people of all ages coupled up. They aren’t all movie stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:55 AM
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Hahahahaha Nice rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:54 PM
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Why are you focused on the “men in power”? Their success is not how you define the average It’s called homosociality, men are homosocial in their little hierarchal structures, and they only use women as a tool to determine how they treat each other as males. Women aren’t the ones you’re trying to impress by fucking as many women as you can; that’s other men. Which is why it feels like a failure when women aren’t interested, but it’s easier to blame the “object” you desire. That failure is define…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 10:01 PM
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You are just making stuff up. Provide sources and I will as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:29 PM
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You’re incorrect. I can provide you sources if you are interested. It’s well studied and understood how social structures exist under hegemonic masculinity, and it’s got nothing to do with the agency of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:28 PM
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No, feminists still recognize that the root of the issue is a toxic version of masculinity, where the hierarchy is determined by sexual access and domination. The entire basis is misogyny. Just because you think some of the advice is good, doesn't mean the ideology isn’t harmful. The advice that is given is very generic advice, has existed long before redpill and much like stoicism, there are far better sources to gather this information from. Redpill is attractive to disaffected males because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:24 AM
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Do you know how averages work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:10 PM
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Unfortunately we will never know because men are obsessed with their sex drives, even as they age out of their healthy reproductive years, they will wipe out entire species of endangered animals in order to have a boner. Men in their 20’s are microdosing cialis and viagra right now, they have subreddits about supplements are overtaken by horny men with erectile dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:56 AM

No, he said that men dislike women even if they want to fuck them and that’s correct. Doesn’t have anything to do with being a gay misogynist. You are the only one confused. It’s kind of well known that men will fuck women for other reasons than liking women, even if they are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:12 AM
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Yes, even attractive men can be misogynists. This is such a terminally online take. Point me to the homophobia
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:03 AM
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It absolutely applies to misogynists. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:57 AM
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No, it wouldn’t tank. It would change. That’s literally what markets do, they change according to need/want. This isn’t even as disruptive as other things that have happened to the markets suddenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:50 PM
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We are wired to fuck. That’s about it bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:48 PM

They “typically” don’t form those relationships because of hegemonic masculinity and other men making feelings “gay”. That’s the only reason. That’s not a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:50 PM
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No, not necessarily. I have been jealous of my boyfriend’s guitar, doesn’t mean he was flirting with it. Attention is currency, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:58 AM

You don’t need that support from the opposite sex is my point. You should be forming intimate relationships with other men, you can do this platonically. You don’t need to involve romance or sex in this kind of support in any way. There is also therapy. Why are those options overlooked in favor of putting all of that responsibility on a “romantic partner”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:04 AM
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Nah, mostly that if another woman has vetted you and you aren’t some creepy pervert that is dangerous or violent if you have a ring on your finger. Other women also will see you as “taken” and lighten up around a married man because the idea is he won’t be hitting on them, but men are notorious at completely misreading these situations with women. Isn’t that why you guys can’t tell when women are flirting? Or you suddenly definitely know that all these taken women are flirting? Can’t be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:34 AM

There are already a lot less single mothers as teenagers, it’s a huge reason the rate of reproduction has decreased in the US. It’s declined 77% in the last 30 years. Only conservatives are convinced this is a bad thing. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147737247/teen-pregnancy-rates-have-declined-significantly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:10 AM

Biology has nothing to do with romantic love or romance or anything of the sort. You guys rely on the affection of women to emotionally regulate yourselves because you aren’t expected to do it yourself as a man. Every animal on earth has a biological urge to reproduce, you are conflating a tendency that was born out of patriarchy and a biological imperative. They aren’t the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:08 AM
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It didn’t happen for the markets that advertise and capitalize on romantic love for women even though women seem to be moving away from that as a focus. Arguably; markets far more lucrative for capitalists in America. Edit; examples are wedding industry, romantic comedies, diamonds, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:11 AM
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Women too were once focused on finding romantic love. It’s in every piece of media directed at women, every bit of advertising trying to capitalize on this. Yet women have relationships that sustain them outside of romantic love, so it’s absolutely possible even in spite of all the subliminal messaging. This excuse is bullshit for men in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:01 AM
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True, and I will do you one better; even those men who get into relationships where they are supposedly “ethically non-monogamous”, they manage to ruin those relationships with dishonesty. The dishonesty and manipulation are essential to the game of sleeping around, it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:27 AM
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You’re incorrect. I have posted this information on this subreddit before, but it’s not popular since it’s reality. I’ll copy paste to make it easy: It’s called homosociality, men are homosocial in their little hierarchal structures, and they only use women as a tool to determine how they treat each other as males. Women aren’t the ones you’re trying to impress by fucking as many women as you can; that’s other men. Which is why it feels like a failure when women aren’t interested, but it’s easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:56 AM
2

Women need external stimulation, you guys are the ones that require penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:59 PM
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No, women are repulsed by promiscuous men, and it’s often the reason they divorce them. This is an essential part of the hierarchy that men create in a culture defined by hegemonic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:47 PM
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A lot of men do not feel it’s a mutual act and it’s something that they get to do to women instead, but that lines up with the same train of thought that allows men to devalue women who have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 08:33 PM
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Your needs do not require another person. That isn’t what a need is. Human beings are not the only ones who will sometimes never find a mate. There is more to life than romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:23 AM
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Yeah, it’s husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:47 AM
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Only misogynists make their sexlessness the motive for mass murder. #not all men, I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:20 AM
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In my experience, men get very upset if you have to give yourself an orgasm without their help. Jealous of toys etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:27 AM
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I was talking to a Canadian who was trying to convince me to go visit him. I almost did it, so I totally get where you are coming from. We even discussed maternity mortality and he was shocked to learn it was so dangerous in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:17 AM
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Why not come out and just say it? You want to force women into sexual slavery again to benefit the men who aren’t being picked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:14 AM
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American men have Peter Pan syndrome and a shitload of them aren’t interested in any sort of monogamy for themselves, only their female partner. Going to a third world country for a wife is for looking for a dependent, not commitment. That’s about control, and definitely not about monogamy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:12 AM
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Actually you are wrong. That is the one common thread amongst almost all school shooters and this is a behavioral profile that the FBI uses. So it’s officially an incel problem and there have been dozens of studies on this, and other countries are now starting to classify this version of misogyny as terrorism. Here is one : https://news.lehigh.edu/new-research-highlights-link-between-school-shootings-and-violence-against-women A new study of school shooters over the past 50 years found that 70% …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:41 AM
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Incels only feel “bashed into the ground” because for some reason the males in our species put all of their value as human beings into how many women they can get to touch their dick. That’s not something you have to do, but that’s the way you guys determine your worth amongst yourselves. This makes you blame women or become terroristic to society because you can’t introespect, and THAT behavior earns you the title “lowest of the low”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:37 AM
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I resemble this statement as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:19 PM
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You guys can’t keep substituting new definitions for things like “common sense” and “logic” when you really mean your feelings. Your feelings are not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 05:16 PM
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Because maybe the women you are talking about are above your caliber? Maybe the same advice that everyone gives women applies to men too; if you want a relationship that badly, lower your standards. There are plenty of lonely women who would probably give you a chance but they probably don’t meet your standards. It’s the hypocrisy for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:33 PM
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You are the one adding qualifiers like “exclusively”. Attractive people regardless of gender do better on dating apps because the criteria is always superficial. Men gamify these apps. This is why men swipe on everything they see. The OKCupid data doesn’t prove this idea about attractiveness either, but it’s usually the next talking point. Most women in the US do not use dating apps. It’s incomplete data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:26 PM
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The idea that a chadfish account proves anything is related to what u said though. It’s not proof of anything other than women like to fuck the things they find attractive. Why is this something that gets repeated here like that requires proof in the first place? You guys are the ones always saying “iTs SiMpLe BiOlOgY”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:15 PM
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This thread is here to debunk common manosphere talking points and does a really great job. That’s not what this is. I’m describing a freedom that women gained that used to be exclusive to men. It’s also just a feature of sexual selection and can be observed in other animals, too. This is probably upsetting (considering the pressures applied to eliminate female choice) but it’s by no means a manosphere talking point, it’s not some revolutionary discovery. “Mammals sexually attracted by physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:07 PM
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You are all going to have to get over the fact that women can afford to sexually select for looks now. It’s no longer life or death or exile without picking some random man to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:56 PM
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Still won’t fuck conservatives 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 10:00 AM

I never claimed I was smart. I said men don’t appreciate smart women and they don’t, this isn’t even up for debate because it’s documented in multiple studies. Weaponized incompetence has nothing to do with feminism, it’s a viral bit of commentary on the laziness of men. You don’t have to agree and no one expects you to since you seem to be a man. The only person even speaking about ideology at the moment is you, but your assumptions about me make it easy to assume yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:18 AM

Isn’t that what you are doing right now? Making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:12 AM

It’s proof of a phenomenon experienced by “feminists”, at the very least. Though I’d argue the majority of women laughed for a reason that had nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:08 AM

That’s a lot of assumptions. Wonder what that says about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:59 AM
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I know, I have been in relationships with some of those men over the course of my life. One of them lasting nearly 8 years. I honestly will never entertain a man who doesn’t feel the same way, as I feel it’s a values thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:37 AM
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No surely not unique to men, but not as common in the reverse. “Weaponized incompetence” has been coined as a phrase recently because there’s a perceived benefit in heteronormative relationships for men who seem incapable, and has been used by men in malicious ways in order to extract labor and services from women they are partnered with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:22 AM
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That’s amazing! I think you’re very lucky. I am not going to claim it’s uncommon to find, but I do think educational aspirations for both parties often plays a role. My peers and I have encountered many inferiority complexes while entertaining someone who doesn’t match academically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:18 AM
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That’s not proof, but enjoy your circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:17 PM
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How is feminism attacking men when comparing IPV rates? What does acknowledging that women are capable of abuse do to help the rights of men? Feminism does not deny this as far as I know. The harm is not the same between these groups. Denial in any way does not impact the rights of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:12 PM
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So opting out of relationships is the same as never finding one? That doesn’t seem to match the ideologies here at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:51 PM
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Is hot consistent across men? I know there are lower standards but surely that is true for men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:50 PM
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I don’t think women deny that men are ugly sometimes. It’s just rarely the only reason she isn’t interested. It might certainly get you overlooked for someone else that has a much more attractive presentation, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:47 PM
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You can fight for your rights without trying to remove the rights of others. I know, a novel idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:35 PM
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I dont know, a lot of men seem to prefer stupid women and cannot stand one smarter than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:36 PM
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No, the state supposedly represents the people but they are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:03 PM
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Women don’t use dating apps as frequently as men so that data is not applicable to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:48 PM
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Because friendship cures loneliness. Getting your dick wet does not. Having a romantic partner cures loneliness. Having an orgasm with someone does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:46 PM
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Good luck trying to convince the state that it’s in their best interest. The institution of marriage is first and foremost a benefit to the state which is why you get a contract through them documenting it. What you are describing is monogamous relationships that don’t end in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:39 PM
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There are very many romantically lonely women who don’t resort to bigotry and terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:37 PM
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Yeah, they often conflate love and lust. Those are not the same thing. Just like casual sex and relationships. Not the same, and yet when discussed here there are many, many men who can’t seem to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:35 PM
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You must be very young because that is a recent development since women gained the right and ability to criticize men for their wrongdoings. Men have been the “default human” and gain all the benefits of society because its “man made” for “mankind” etc etc It’s so pervasive that it’s everywhere in the language we speak. Men have been trying to take the credit of other good men for all of eternity, they deny even knowing bad men though for some reason. But insist that there are bad men because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:05 PM
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You have it backwards. Men made women economically dependent on men and then cry that women are only with them for money. Women gain the freedom to make their own money, and men cry that women don’t need them anymore. This is a result of oppression. Of course women will walk away when no longer forced to be with their oppressor. Now women don’t have to be with a man unless she likes him. This is where the problems for men begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:41 PM
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They don’t get blamed for those things. They get blamed for upholding the systems in which those things prosper because they still directly benefit enough that they will not dismantle them. Clinging to it makes you a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:39 PM
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Women are leaving men behind because of the red pill. No, it’s not enough that you don’t want to outright own us and legally abuse and rape us. You actually have to be good and decent people too. Women are far less upset about “men leaving women” because that would actually probably benefit us. It’s simply not true, though. You’ve just repackaged your hatred and called it something else, so it’s not as revolutionary as you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:33 PM
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They deserve the credit for what they do that they are not forced by others to surrender. Fighting to keep your slaves in any capacity should not earn you praise when you eventually lose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:32 PM
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Because men didn’t one day see this inequality and violence and think, “Hey, maybe this unending evil we force on others is wrong”, the oppressed had to fight and still fight for freedom from those evils. What good things do you think men deserve credit for since they don’t want to be accountable for the evils that they still benefit from? Most of those evil things being still perpetrated by the same type of men with no end in sight?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:28 PM
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Men only want credit for the good things. Somehow no man is responsible for the rape and murder and enslavement of an entire gender and other races, but all men deserve credit for the freedom from those things. Doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:22 PM
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Stop acting like you hold any moral high ground in this argument by throwing your constant whining self victimizing pity parties You mean like crying because no one wants to give you any pussy because you have a yucky personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:06 PM
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Who took them away in the first place and decided anyone who wasn’t a white man was an animal? You don’t get a parade for having to treat others as equals instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:04 PM
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No, every woman is more at risk of being murdered by a man than ever being murdered by a woman, statistically. Men commit the majority of violence in the world. Having dictators have never prevented women from being hurt, that is just a Republican wet dream because conservative men are naturally submissive. Women historically do worse under authoritarian rule. Again comparing a silly hashtag to actual violence is why no one takes you seriously. Women and girls are killed at an alarming rate, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:44 PM
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So that justifies the terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:22 AM
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Women do tolerate men, just not in their homes or bodies anymore, that has nothing to do with “society” or the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:06 AM
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The obsession with a hashtag is really telling when actual violence against women and girls receives radio silence from the majority of you. It’s hard to have an online bully, probably harder to survive mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:49 AM
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I am a woman who dislikes romance novels and prefers sci fi or high fantasy, so maybe I am off base here, but I’d assume women like romance novels because they prioritize female pleasure in a way that reality simply doesn’t. It’s just as much fantasy as my preference of high fantasy, in that it’s very divorced from reality and not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:59 PM
3

So it was natural when men could buy women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:40 PM
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Neither was the previous social expectation where every man got a broodmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:38 PM
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I see the link? Maybe you need to refresh the page. The only person being smug is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:33 PM
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I did exactly the same and gave that advice and was told that I was wrong. That you have to be tall or rich. The goalposts move every time, they want to feel sorry for themselves and blame it on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:55 PM
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Lots of girls like twinky boys, have you not paid any attention to popular culture? Or even Asian countries. They favor what could only be described as feminine features (in USA) in men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:47 AM
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Count me in, sounds a dream
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:46 AM
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Death to purity culture, ignore all the men screaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:42 AM
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You asked me how else to show responsibility without involving income and I explained many ways. Being responsible is attractive, you are the only one adding the qualifier “definitive”. You are walking into the point and still missing it. Of course these are things that any man can do(most still don’t), being responsible is an attractive quality and are often learnable skills. One attractive quality is just that; one attractive quality. You may need more than that to attract the caliber of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:50 PM

Having used the apps once doesn’t make them regular users. The majority of users on all dating apps are men. That is also not what a control group is or how they work. Hinge: Approximately 64% men to 36% women. Bumble: Around 67% men to 33% women, although some estimates are even higher. Tinder: Some sources report ratios as high as 76% men to 24% women. OkCupid: OkCupid has significantly more male users than female users; data from a 2020 survey indicated that 11% of men in the U.S. used the ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:13 PM

Most women do not use dating apps though. So using that data and extrapolating that this applies to all women, or even most women is really silly. This data applies to women who use OK Cupid or other dating apps. Edit to add : OkCupid: OkCupid has significantly more male users than female users; data from a 2020 survey indicated that 11% of men in the U.S. used the app compared to only 6% of women, and another source suggests there could be approximately twice as many male users as female users …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:49 PM
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No one like transactional niceness. If you are being nice in order to manipulate someone into doing shit for you, that is repulsive and obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:18 PM
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Living within your means, keeping a tidy living space, hobbies and friends and family relationships that you maintain. If you get called out on something, taking accountability is also pretty important. Being able to construct a plan for whatever reason whether it be like a safety thing or a day trip, having forethought. Being able to take care of yourself like grooming and general self care, and general maintenance of things within your domain. There’s a lot of ways to show that you are respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:59 PM
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This is bisexual erasure. It’s right there after the L. You can actually choose to not date men if you also happen to like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:12 AM
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It’s just to counter all the men claiming that women must be sharing men, or maybe fucking old dudes, or whatever other shit they think up to explain the overused data from dating apps. They ignore that women don’t use those apps and are mostly not included in that data, but it feels better to conclude that we are all sugar babies or side chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:03 AM
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Bisexual. The women are bisexual. I actually think a vast majority of people are, it’s just less socially acceptable for men to be bisexual so they are in the closet or in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:59 AM
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Babe, they are dating each other. Why do you think looking like a dyke is so popular? Sure some are doing it for aesthetics but there is a reason it’s happening, and it’s not because it’s sexy to old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:50 AM
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The most dangerous person to a pregnant woman is the man who got her pregnant. Homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/ At least if we were physically equal, maybe it would be a fairer fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:33 AM
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In my anecdotal experience, it starts off okay but I have yet to see a relationship with that dynamic that didn’t result in the man depressed and resentful. Maybe there is an income level that it doesn’t, but I haven’t seen it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:26 AM
1

Were you close to your brother beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:21 AM
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Not really, their egos get in the way when their friends make fun of them. Sounds good at first though, but men find it’s emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:18 AM
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Modern women make their own money. Being responsible has little to do with your income as long as you have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:15 AM
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It’s literally their excuse for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:10 AM
1

Because she didn’t accept your anecdotes, she doesn’t know anything? Hush
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:08 AM
5

So they are nice to other men, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:07 AM
2

That may be true if you are trying to attract high school girls. It’s not realistic otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:05 AM
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Maybe they asked him for an orgasm, too. We all know how the female orgasm is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:45 AM
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Yes, of course I do. That’s not what we are talking about though. We are talking about men who abandon their dying wives because they are no longer able to take care of the “wifely duties”, it’s not the same as not being able to afford healthcare. I am sure all the men who divorce their sick wives have plenty of reasons why they waited until there was a terminal diagnosis, it’s certainly wasn’t because she was sick or anything, that would make him a social pariah. Surely they care, it must be co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:01 AM
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Yeah but they are allowed because penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:46 PM
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They taught us in nursing school that men will leave their wives for less than that, especially if they become incapacitated. The chances of a man leaving you when you have cancer skyrockets, even if it’s a curable one. The same can not be said in reverse, the women always stay with the sick men. It’s why we offer counseling to women who get a bad diagnoses. We warn them about this statistical fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:53 PM
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Yeah I said that. Some women definitely do. Most women are not sizing up men in a sexual manner the way men do in public every day. Women holding a man to a conventional beauty standard still isn’t the same dehumanization.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:46 PM
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No, just human. I think most women would rather men treat them like another person instead of an option, that’s typically my experience with pretty women too. Most women don’t go around hating on men who are ugly, and the pretty women don’t want to be treated like they are being evaluated like a piece of produce that someone can buy. Both of these things are dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:33 PM
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Men treat unattractive women like shit all the time. Sometimes like they don’t even exist. God help you if you are an ugly fat woman, or worse; disabled. Basically if you aren’t on the fuck list, are you even a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:26 PM
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No because generally that’s the way it already is. Men outright ignore women they don’t want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:20 PM
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There’s a bunch of historical resources that outline how egalitarian societies were ran, and the way that women raised children together. Some of those attitudes carried over into the agricultural age but a lot of communal things were stomped to death in order to establish property rights and paternal lines of inheritance. You’re definitely correct about religion being the social and corporal force that changed a lot of that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:28 PM
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You do you, babe :3
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:31 PM
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Oh sure, we are gonna go with “surveys of younger couples” rather than centuries of traditional gender socialization and expectations. If that is your experience, then you are lucky. I never hear any women disagreeing with this, though. Women aren’t victimizing themselves, they are opting out, it’s the men who are bitching about government issued wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:19 PM
2

Well yeah, for men. And they get mad when you try to have your own, with or without their help, because heaven forbid. Or intimidated/jealous about toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:39 PM
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Feminists are not alone in that. This is why women do 90% of the unpaid labor at home even while working full time, men want the second income and a maid. Edit to add stats : While a definitive global percentage of men who perform unpaid labor isn't available, data indicates that men consistently do less unpaid work than women globally and in individual countries. For example, in the European Union, around 53% of employed men regularly perform unpaid housework compared to 93% of employed women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:34 PM
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Would love to see even one example of that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:27 PM
3

It’s not intentionally to upset you, but you do seem bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:59 AM
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The sex is often mediocre, the relationship is a lot of work for women, and men give up on dates as soon as they get comfortable. Not worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:49 AM
1

The whole idea is tricking the woman though, most of the time. That is why there is such uproar when you start talking about “coercion”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:44 AM
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There’s moreto life than a romantic partner. You do not need a woman. There’s no reason to implement a system in which every man is “given” one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:41 AM
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No. Only one of us seems upset and it’s not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:02 AM
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Less and less every year. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:44 AM
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We women don’t struggle to understand that at all, we only recently got the right to turn you guys down and live an entire life without being someone’s house slave. The men leftover from this change are super pissed about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:39 AM
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Hers are red. Mine is pink.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:31 AM
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There’s plenty of women who engage here in good faith, they are just heavily downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:30 AM
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Because there seem to be so many of them jerking each other off in the comments, it’s easy to mistake it for one of their normal circlejerk hangouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:29 AM
3

And “bicycle face” was a made up disease to prevent women traveling on bicycles. I forget what it was called, but we were also restricted from traveling by train or car because braking could cause our uterus to fly out of our bodies. Anything to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:26 AM
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Isn’t the claim here that to get rich guys, women must be fucking them in all sorts of disgusting ways? How else do you think these men are going to get rich men to do things for them? The second man interviewed said he would go out and get a bunch of rich men to buy him things. Unless you think rich men are doing stuff like this for women with no sexual contact involved. Not really a popular suggestion around here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 09:34 PM
9

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRAYgwKS5_c
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:57 PM
15

You can have a preference for just about anything. That doesn’t mean it’s not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:39 PM
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They admit when asked if they were a woman for a day, they would go fuck a shitload of guys. Says quite a lot about the way they think about sex and the double standards they hold for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:22 PM
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Tinder, like all dating apps are like 75% men, so your data is skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:45 PM

I am a woman who knows many women, even in the blue states the girls don’t want to accidentally fuck a conservative so they don’t date anyone they don’t know anymore, and won’t engage in casual sex. You can be bitter about that, but it’s true. Plus, I have talked to women who have had children before their first orgasm, men don’t really prioritize anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:30 PM
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Most women do not engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 08:27 AM
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How convenient. Seems to be the most common in my experience, too. The whole thing was a crock of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:37 AM
9

“My love language is physical touch. (you touching me mostly)”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:29 AM
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Patriarchy and religion, and making women property kind of ensured all these genetic dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:01 PM

It’s not a lie though. Toddlers lie to get what they want, it’s one of the earliest forms of learned deception. If you think that is not routinely employed by people trying to trick others into relations with them, I don’t know what to tell you. Being genuinely kind will always serve you better with women than being an asshole or a liar with a facade of “niceness”. What a world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:14 AM

The problem for most women is that most men start off kind, which is why so many say “men only want one thing and will say anything to get in your pants”, there’s a lot of supposed kindness, not all of it is genuine. Sometimes fake nice men lie very well and for a really long time, until they feel like they don’t have to be nice anymore. Women are not fucking the misogynists who are venomous to women right off the bat. That’s not normal or average at all. I’m not the one misrepresenting things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:08 AM

I actually disagree that’s why men view relationships as transactional. Kindness is a guarantee for promotions at work? Kindness guarantees someone will sell you their goods? No. Kindness helps, but it’s never automatically rewarded with what you want. Why would it be that way with sexual contact with women? It definitely used to be much more important when women had to marry men to survive in the world and participate in society, but that is no longer the case. I can see why this would be viewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:29 AM

No, not “be yourself”, “focus on yourself”, it’s not the same thing. You can be pissed off that women out of your “league” aren’t tripping over themselves to be with you, but turning down women because they aren’t good enough just makes you a hypocrite. You use a lot of buzzwords, no one is gaslighting you. If you are a cripple with one good leg, not being able to run a mile is not because of your good working leg, why chop it off at the knee out of spite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:06 AM

Men can only think this if they have a transactional view of interpersonal relationships where actions are currency for affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:54 AM

“Every woman” just like “every man” amiright
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:41 AM

I was honestly asking why this is so upsetting. If it’s not the “no” answer, it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of women’s sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:40 AM

Yep, women on the whole are way more choosy than men, it’s the major complaint you will find in this subreddit, worded a million different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:21 AM

Hot PEOPLE have more choices, not just hot men. Stop focusing on the hot men, or hot people in general. Ugly people get laid all the time. Go outside and walk around Walmart and see how many ugly people are being followed by half a dozen children. The problem is that if you are ugly AND a shitty person, that’s like being a cripple and blaming your one good knee. You are only handicapping yourself further.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:12 AM

Absolutely not. You are describing behavior of men and ascribing it to women. Men will decide whether or not they would fuck a woman within moments of laying eyes on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:41 AM

So the upsetting bit is just the lack of attraction? Not that the answer is “no”? Individual women have different features they find attractive, though. It’s not unique to human women that they will disqualify a mate for something small. The nature of sexual selection of any species are directly affected by the risks involved in sexual contact for each party. The female assumes most risk and therefore are more discerning. I thought biological essentialism was popular among men these days, this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:32 AM

It’s absolves them from introspection and allows them to externally blame women for their perceived failures. They are “nice” so it’s the women who are malfunctioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:11 AM

Yes indeed. I have never heard a girlfriend say “That guy has a nice jawline, makes me so wet!” Because that would be silly. Dick is common loot to women. There is rarely one attribute that will make a woman want to fuck you, because it’s never about the features of the man, it’s the person. Which is also why it’s so easy to disqualify a man for being a misogynist, because one good looking misogynist is not worth the risk to a woman’s health, there will undoubtedly be another man with similar fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:48 AM
2

I thought no one cared about the suffering of men. Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:42 AM
4

Literally not true. Even hot men can give you the ick by being a disgusting fuckwad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:11 AM
3

That is because those things are what men prioritize, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:09 AM
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Why would they have to be told this? Is it that men don’t have any such standard when trying to fuck women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:07 AM
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Men will sleep with women they aren’t attracted to because the use of her body parts is more important to them than the rest of her that’s attached to those parts. They don’t understand that women don’t want to sleep with people they find unattractive. Edit for clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:04 AM
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Undesirable men also gaslight women. Desirable men gaslight women. I’m sure desirable and undesirable women are also gaslighters. Is the expectation that women should still want to sleep with someone they don’t desire? That’s kind of ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:42 AM
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Also, about all those positions of power…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 09:13 PM
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She agrees with you, literally in her comment. You seem to misunderstand that women as a whole, aka aggregate, don’t want or desire men as a whole, aka aggregate. Individuals and their desires notwithstanding. No one said your wife shouldn’t desire you. Expecting every woman you encounter at the grocery store to desire you is what we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:45 PM
1

Try social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:42 PM

Your anecdotes have equal value to mine at the very least, and I am a woman who knows many other women. What you are saying is only true on the internet. Most women don’t give a shit if you are “shredded”. It really does come down to your personality. If you can get into relationships by being an asshole first, I can only feel bad for the women in your life. That still doesn’t make it normal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:52 AM
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You are describing behavior that is common from men. Men literally murder women when they get rejected. It goes from “Be my wife, I would do anything for you.” To “you’re a dirty ugly whore” as soon as you don’t want to touch their penis. This actually has been studied in men, it’s so common. Here is some light reading for you, if you feel inclined to educate yourself on reality. I could have been snarky and said something about including women in studies but I won’t. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.go…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:00 AM
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How do you figure that? Abusive people don’t advertise that they are abusive. Are you often a dickhead to people you want something from? Pretty sure that level of deception is learned before you reach puberty so unless you are implying that abusers are easy to spot right off the bat, it’s you who have problems with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:57 AM
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That’s incorrect though. Good is a primary trait that women look for insofar that it is the absolute bare minimum. Men are pissed that you have to be anything more than “nice” or “good” in order to win the affection of a particular woman. Unfortunately, being nice and good are qualifiers that are required for literally any social interaction you have with anyone, anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:48 AM
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No, attractive men are abusive like unattractive men can be. Their physical features don’t directly correlate to selfish or violent behavior. The point is we should never ignore any abusive men, and especially not just because they are deemed attractive or unattractive. Abusive men are bad, mmkay?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:46 AM
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Wild and unfounded speculation, I am sure that makes it easier to cope with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:43 AM
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Only according to other men. I am a woman and I know men who are kind AND attractive. Redpill tells men that attractive men are abusive, so it’s usually mutually exclusive in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:17 PM
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That is not what derailing means. Doxxing someone is not holding them accountable. Gossiping is also not holding anyone accountable. Those are not the same thing, and there’s nothing “systematic” about how they are trying to communicate with you. You use a lot of words incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:27 PM
4

Then they weren’t perfectly good enough. It’s not up to you who gets to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:22 PM
2

Literally nothing stopping you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:23 PM
2

Why not go sleep with ugly fat women who are nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:17 PM
6

It’s consistent across every complaint in every subject, whether it’s attributed to malice or just ignorance, blame the nearest woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:16 AM
1

It absolutely is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:47 PM
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Haven’t you caught on yet? It’s always going to be women’s fault. If you just start there and work backwards, it all makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:45 PM
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Pretty sure that’s due to all the femicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:35 AM
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