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Glad we can agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:37 PM
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My brother in christ, I've been a lifelong feminist. I'm actually 3rd gen feminist raised. My grandmother lived with me and taught basic feminist principals. I grew UP with my grandma saying stuff like "I don't know why men insist they can see a pair of tit's or a hoo-ha on TV but do you ever see a penis? NUooooH!" Where a lot of young feminists get confused is that a man like me is a classical feminist. "You can make any choice you want in life but you aren't necessarily owed respect or support…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:09 PM
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I agree! People are awfully bigoted and casually misandrist towards men aren't they? I've been dealing with this shit my entire life. Why haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:57 PM
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Wat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:42 PM
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Casual sex? But I'm working on that and starting to see some success so I'm just being a whining weiner. No obv I don't want any of that. Why do you people always start assuming that every man is as entitled as most men and women are just because they want to also participate in the reindeer games? I'm not anymore. I'm saying what happened and why a lot of people, men in particular are who they are and why they do what they do and why they have the perspective they perceive. If the perception is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:38 PM
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My brother. Hope is indeed the way. I love you. Find a male friend who can use the help. They're down bad and life will get better for it for everyone for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:26 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't pay for sex, I wouldn't choose someone who pitied me like that either. That's gross. I wouldn't be with someone who's given pity sex to anyone either, so I guess it works out. Let me guess that's most men 😭 Can't disagree with that one I guess 🤷🏻 Glad and grateful I've never been that desperate!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:24 PM
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Yeah sometimes you just gotta feel out those dynamics. Of course I only can rely on an unreliable narrator as a perception. But I dunno 🤷🏻 some people seem to agree with what I perceived my experience to be like
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:53 PM
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Believe whatever you wanna believe. It's the internet anyway ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:50 PM
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Women certainly can't force attraction either. But they're the only ones who pretend that they haven't tried. Trying is literally the only way it happens so I wouldn't pick a woman who doesn't try just as much as she projects that I'd choose her. I mean, she'd have to prove she's pretty special to be committed to and care for given how demanding and how special they see themselves as. I mean it makes sense though, the only time I've ever been in love was when that mutual attraction and compatibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:47 PM
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Can you speak more as to why that would be and what is considered pity sex? Why is asking to participate in casual sex the way women get to participate in casual sex somehow related to getting pity sex? Why would a man wanting to join in on the casual sex scene to get a little bit of what below average and average women can get? Wouldn't women know that them engaging in casual sex with men out of her league is also technically pity sex, possibly by how you differ from I in describing it. I mean,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:48 PM
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Yup. "Speak up! Be a fucking man faggot!" "Omg why are you talking get away from you creep! How dare you contradict us and yell at us! Why are you so mean and contradictory to our experiences! Can't you just let women??"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:42 PM
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Exactly my experience despite being a lifelong, safe male. If you try to argue and point it out they start pretending and or acting like you are violent. Or shouting over you their own victimhood. It's so exhausting and it drains our empathy. Anyone hear about men being emotionally unavailable largely lately? Must always be their fault and not the fault of 99% of societies problems, the rich. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:19 PM
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We can't even be included in spaces. We can't even ask. We can't even be safe men our whole lives without being told "Tough shit you're probably lying and a loser anyway and you're not entitled to women :)" As if all I wanted was sex and not just to participate in everything women get to participate in and it be my choice too as opposed to it always being someone else's choice or last choice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:13 PM
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You mean you and other women don't know what men experience? Who would have thought that the opposite sex often can't relate to each other's experiences... /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:04 PM
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It's worse that women think that she can look down on men in her range of attractiveness just because it's easier for her to attain an experience with someone hotter, more easily available and willing to pay for dates and outings. If you're chasing that dragon and look down on men in your range of attractiveness just because you have an extremely wide scope of comparison for him than he does you, that's not a brag her telling on herself. Only men who believe in pills or are desperate or pathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:40 PM
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No. Did I ever say that was okay? How is that relevant to what I'm advocating for? That I'd have to go through that to get what I'm advocating for? Yeah I guess I'd be a hot guy in exchange for too much attention from everyone just to not be experiencing what I'm experiencing as a average man. I know it comes with a lot of pain most likely but this is suffocating and drowning in loneliness. I'd love to try drowning in attention. Would I be a woman for possibly and likely even more attention and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:29 PM
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That's okay for you. I absolutely support and respect all women who choose what they want for themselves. I just don't respect people who think they should have an excess more in life than anyone else. Men like me who are older just don't feel the same way because we've been deprived of attention, validation, and fun and enjoyable low stakes dating. If you ever wonder why men who are older are still sex driven, it's not always because he has an addiction or is a creep. Sometimes it's because he …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:14 PM
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Oh okay then you're just describing self confidence and a flexibility to self-perception. Sorry, I just thought you actually thought you were 10/10. I suspected you meant what you meant, just was super surprised lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:04 PM
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Why is it pity sex when sex with someone that's not as hot as you can be just as nice? It doesn't need to be pity sex just because you look down on men who aren't as high value as you perceive yourself as. I know men have treated women in general horrifically. But that's no excuse to look down on men you don't know or think you know or who you perceive as less attractive than you (chances are, if you feel that way, so does he whether you like it or not) or only know shallowly in limited scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:56 PM
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Of course not. But it increases the odds that a very HVW who thinks the way I do will see me and choose me because she recognizes me as the kind of HVM that she happens to value. She'll see that I don't deceive or manipulate women, I genuinely am who I am, and I highly value that integrity like she does. I know some men compromise their values and do choose bad behaviors like lying, lying by omission, love bombing, drugs like alcohol to garner a high body count. But I've never compromised my val…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:39 PM
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Women viewing it as revenge or men being entitled, as opposed to men asking to participate, I think are undesirable as well. Women who feel entitled to perpetuate inequality in dating are just as bad as men who feel entitled to inequality in dating. And I'd only ever marry or be in a relationship with a feminist woman who sees me and other men as worthy enough of being seen as women are. So women that think they can race their body count up and settle for men who don't get to choose their body c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:19 PM
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That's narcissism honey, not self-confidence. That's like, the main difference between people whose personalities are ready and emotionally capable of extending the emotions that surround self-perception and our ability to perceive empathically others feelings but also perceive their perceptions, and into a sense of narcissism. I'd be the first to agree that a little bit of narcissism is a good thing in most people, maybe anyone. But thinking you're a 10/10 like that is wild. Like I see myself a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 06:07 PM
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I'm saying that men who don't get to participate in casual sex at the rate of and equivalent experience of, women, then men get to have preferences around body count, bad or shallow past behavior. Most women know a man even two points hotter than her is likely to cheat, think he's better than her, and eventually choose to break up with her slowly and lead her on because he's too cowardly to say he chose another girl or is in another "situationship" which is usually just an extended pump and dump…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:58 PM
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I don't believe that nor do I push that. I'm saying men who have plenty of experience who are good, decent men, even feminists aren't going to tolerate being left out of the casual sexual world. And they'll react by having preferences and boundaries around body count. After all, as women will say themselves, they can't relate to inexperienced men. Which means she just can't relate to men who use all the tools they can or who are hot enough to have had women throw themselves at him. Selection bia…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:52 PM
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I dont? Many women do to try to deceive men she has relegated to relationship material, who aren't as hot as the men she's been able to hook up with. Women even tell those men they're not allowed to have preferences around n count, too. Women don't need to use deception or any tricks or tools to find casual sex at all. She knows she can ask a cute, hot coworker or acquitances to keep it discreet and to be cool and she can find a hook up, fwb, and fun almost anywhere and with lots of men she coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:46 PM
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That's a rather nihilistic view that kind of ignores the reality. People can use it properly and improperly. People can use it shallowly and not shallowly. Personally I use the system to convey to someone that we all have a chance at love because a flexible attractiveness rating scale is more intentful towards finding love, not just "the best you can get." I mean, lots of women say they reserve hookups for men who are "the best I can get" and LTR for men they have lower standards for. That would…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:39 PM
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They don't have to for you to be be seen permanently as gf material, as opposed to wife material. If average men have to tolerate being excluded from casual sex, women can tolerate not finding men who will care and commit to her. Not that she won't find men who still tell her they'll give that to her. Men will tell women anything and be as nice as he can be to convince her he's safe and a decent person. Women know that better than anyone. And men know better than women that women will tolerate m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:31 PM
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And that's why I wouldn't date a woman who's slept with too many people and entertained dates from too many rich and hot assholes so she's now just addicted to sex, love, money, being easily entertained and not spending a dime or putting any work for it besides painting her face and being born a girl. I don't want someone who's that desperate to not be single, who's addicted to convenience and overstimulating experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:19 PM
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When you don't get to participate in dating at all, what else can you do but analyze it when it's important to you. Women express opinions like this and never realize it comes from a place of insane levels of privilege. Men like me have to constantly analyze, assess, seek answers, and grow to be able to experience a modicum of what is a lot easier for women to experience on a whim and with almost no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:20 PM
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Not by you he wouldn't. That's the point. The point rating system can be used as objectively or as subjectively as you choose. You also get to choose how honestly you get to use that rating system. So if you're using it to try to neg someone as opposed to trying to adequately and earnestly express your real feelings and experiences, then you're a loser. But it can be quite useful. I use it to say that a woman who has a 3/10 body and face can easily become a 9/10 or even a 10/10 if she has other …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:15 PM
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It's because most men are willing to take anything that will put a notch on their belt, particularly the top % of men. And those men, as well as the ones in the top 30th percentile also know women are dating rather shallowly. So why wouldn't they take advantage of how shallow women are being? Especially when they want to be exclusionary of men in her league from casual sexual relationships. Women want to be the exclusive gatekeepers of any sexual relationship and won't exchange that power for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:27 PM
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Good luck with your fantasy that women aren't just as shallow as men are for feeling entitled to anything more than 50/50 ever. Women who reject feminism like that also often believe that they can be promiscuous but can exclude men in her league from casual sex or relegate men in her league to LTR only. Women like that get relegated to girlfriend material only.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:19 PM
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Anyone that ignores that looks, education, career, wealth, etc all can go into a partially objective, partially subjective rating system using numbers. The only people who take people rating 1-10 seriously are people who don't know that. Women objectify men insanely with numbers. Whether it's height or finances. Just like shallow men objectify women with numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:05 PM
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But what if I want to appeal to the widest possible set of women because I want to engage in casual relationships the way women easily get to initiate and engage in them. Are women saying that men only get to be relegated to LTR when women want it? What are we going to do about the massive inequality between what women get to experience when they choose casual relationships and what men get to experience wanting casual relationships? How are we going to close the ever widening gap between what l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:59 AM
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What in the fuck are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:42 AM
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Oh, that was you? Gosh, women like you really do like to tell men what they think and feel. It's like a psychopathic need for control generated by decades of getting unwanted sexual attention and sexual discomfort as well as sexual violence. Gosh I'd have no idea why you'd be so stand-offish. Total mystery to men who are lifelong feminists who have also been victims of sexual violence. I know what I'm going to do, I'm gonna get a Medusa tattoo as my first tattoo. In a nice hidden place. You ladi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:40 AM
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When men here say they are not being picky, they just want someone who is fairly attractive, and pleasant. Yes!! Yess!! You are listening!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:15 AM
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My issue with many men here is the entitlement and dishonesty. Which ones? What weren't they honest about? Men who think that women exist for their benefit. Which men? Because it ain't men like me and I've met plenty like me. I've also met plenty unlike me who are as you describe. You're talking about condemnening one to permanent loneliness and not the other, right? Does one get to have a lot of formative and interesting and enjoyable experiences while the other group doesn't get to participate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:14 AM
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Concern trolling? What's that? I've been learning so much about the way incels have been trying to influence women. Women never stop talking about it which I don't blame them. Men like me need to keep talking about how bad women try to condemn, bully, and manipulate and influence the way incels do. So many manipulation techniques, but as an honest man, I've never needed them. Mostly because I've never needed to negatively manipulate women ever in my lifetime because I'm a decent guy. Also, still…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:15 PM
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Probably because women post tons of fantasies about men they don't know being the antagonist in their story and extending that antagonist nature to strangers when that biases are the exact reason why feminism got here in the first place. When did I saw women owe me anything? You ladies keep saying that and I'm not sure you know what it even means you post it so much. But that's coming from people who'd choose a bear that wouldn't hesitate to kill her over a man who has a 90% chance of not feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:10 PM
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(I bet you're smarter and more capable than I am irl because of how effective your sarcasm is) Yeah I was raised one! Were you raised one? Always love to find like minded feminists who believe all people are people and who don't have any extremist views whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:02 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:00 PM
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Sure. I mean, that's not the only evidence, but yeah. I'm relying on bias just like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:59 PM
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And men don't owe women anything in life but a basic sense of respect as people. Men don't owe women economic oppurtunity either. That's not my version of feminism and equality but you do you. I think we should be putting effort into raising up women just as we should be able to raise up good men. But apparently you feel otherwise. Apparently "feminists" like you want all give, no take. Personally, I always make sure women orgasm first during sex so that's not my style. But that's just me doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:59 PM
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More words. More accusations of my entitlement. More limp arguments compromising of guesses as to my character. I've been dealing with that casual misandry my entire life, ever since I was told as a boy that boys and men were rapists and were inherently bad people who needed to collectively make up theirs and past men's behavior to women. But I don't take on that casual misandry anymore, especially not from women who aren't feminists. I guess, just like they already don't, men have no incentive …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:45 PM
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Right back at you. Have a lovely day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:38 PM
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It was never up to me how women dictate dating and casual sex. It was always women's decision because, unlike a lot of men, I've never been a rapist and have never entertained rapist thoughts like I'm owed sex or that I should actively work, even perform bad behavior, to "get" sex from women. I was never that desperate, I have always seen woman as people, and I have always valued consent. So as a direct result, my sex and dating life more or less wasn't up to me. It was up to women to express in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:38 PM
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Yeah I know you well enough. I could already guess you weren't a feminist. And I have zero respect for women that have internalized misogyny that way. So best of luck to you regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:08 PM
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Only swiping on a certain percentage of men, whereas men clearly swipe on a much larger percentage of women. This has been partially misattributed to the misandrist idea that "men will take anything with a hole." No, hunny. That's the men who get obsessed over by shallow women. Only those men have the ability to choose "any hole" and women who pretend to be feminists enable those men. Regular men can't exhibit "any hole" behavior or else he'll be revealing himself as just as manipulative as wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:01 PM
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Screeching? Weird accussation but okay... All of this is just right back 'atcha Bud lol Please respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:54 PM
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Clearly some women are so desperate for a trophy they're willing to humiliate themselves, as always. The difference between me and them is I've never looked for a trophy, I've looked for a person. But if women choose to say "tough shit" about it that's okay. She's an independent woman. She can carry all that tough shit herself. I've carried enough low value woman through friendships because they had a history of bad (shallow, manipulative, abusive, and hypocritical) behavior. It's why I only hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:49 PM
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I mean... it's mutual, so yeah. The difference between you and me is that you smugly believe loser women not making themselves available to me is a loss for me. Why would I want a woman who's just as much a shallow loser as the men she condemns? Why would I want a woman who's a hypcrit who isn't a feminist when I was raised a feminist? So I can have a dead weight of a woman? No thanks, I've raised enough women and given them enough money throughout my lifetime to know that shallow women are exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:33 PM
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Women collectively adopting shitty hypocritical, non-feminist stances don't effect me? I mean, it does effect me and other men. If women want to be hypocrits and exhibit horrendous behavior in dating, than they can't condemn men for doing the same. It means I get to mislead women with long term relationships and pump and dump her and any other woman as much as like. Bad behavior begets bad behavior. If women choose bad behavior towards men, men are allowed to and are going to choose bad (not ill…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:25 PM
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But women are huuuge hypocrits and laugh that they can be. They don't date men in their league, let alone men who also have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:21 PM
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So do women's opinions. Especially when they think they're better than me for no reason other than she was born a woman. But we've come full circle and now women are just as bad and just as shallow as men are. They have the same delusional ego about how important and how much value they bring to the table as men did and do. A feminist man doesn't accept a woman who only pretends to be a feminist. Why would I want a woman like that or care about her opinion? I see her just as much of a person as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:14 PM
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Promiscuous women are biased towards "male nature" because the "males" they're desperate for are the worst types who get away with the worst behavior because women suffer just as much from the halo effect as men do. Her biases for men comes from the fact that she's promiscuous. And if women are starting to get extremely hostile towards men because a huge majority of them are engaging in bein promiscuous and she doesn't understand why it's causing her to hate men, then she's just as bad as incels…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:03 PM
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The problem is that women are hypocritical in that they're allowed and enabled and not at all shamed for objectifying men. In fact, women are actively encouraging younger women to act like the very men they just had a massive feminist movement about. And a huge percentage of men who were already feminists celebrated that feminism was going to liberate us from shallow behavior, relationships, standards, ideas, and enable women and men to be more promiscuous if they so choose. And now only women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:58 PM
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Men aren't looking to date women with high body counts, a child, no high school diploma who thinks she can objectify men in dating. She's just as much a shallow loser as the men she complains about. If she won't choose men in her league she's the loser, not the men she pretended in her head to reject before she knew them. Men do that and it's just as pathetic as when men think they're owed sex, dates, and relationships. But because women can cope with an addiction to sex and love, just like most…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:42 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:36 PM
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There's plenty of absurd statistics that support women overwhelmingly only choose the top 10-20% of women because they have incredibly shallow and narrow preferences for physical attractiveness and height. Also, there's a lot of women out there living with their parents that feel entitled to a partner who's not living with his parents. Women may not be as abusive but they're way more entitled than incels are. At least most incels just want a decent partner who they can see as an equal. Women don…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:30 PM
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It could be worse, I could be with an average but shallow woman who sees hot and tall men through the halo effect and condemns men in her league as if they're always an abuser or a creep. Women don't realize they're being creeps by being the most shallow and most desperate for men out of their league. If you didn't have a mum or a grandma, you would have learned that men, specifically the ones you claim aren't as bad as you think, will tell you anything, entertain you like a clown, and will thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:14 PM
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I have never used anyone, especially considering how much people have used me. Nobody owes me anything. I only ask to be seen as positively as I see women. But when theres zero reciprocation, it feels like women feel they're owed way more than they give. Especially when they're only choosing men way out of their league. You think I think of women as lesser than men or me. You don't know that I have never seen women that way. But because you can speculate and it's easier than getting to know me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:02 PM
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Naw I need other people, especially corporations and the wealthiest oligarchs to accept full accountability and responsibility for their part, just like everyone else does. I've had enough responsibility an accountability for my part and I don't need more no matter how many people try to shovel their own shit on to my head. That's part of what men are trying to tell women, that they aren't much more the victims in life than men are. But women like you signal that you'll never empathize or listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:53 PM
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And women like you completely ignore the reality that men experience. That's okay, I've grown up with it like you've grown up people ignoring you. I've also grown up with people objectifying me, without the freedom of being able to objectify others. But it's not at all surprising you have zero empathy for it. People with privilege rarely recognize their privilege, especially when it's an easy privilege that is completely within reach. I guess it would be foolish to ask for someone who's obsessed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 PM
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Not getting a girlfriend (who's not obese or trans) has made you just as much a victim Nope. as women who have been constantly sexualized and harassed by multiple men since before puberty? As men and boys have been by men and women? Yeah men do this a lot. And I've been a victim of it too. Do I get to be seen as a person now? Or is the fact that I'm a man who's been a victim not recognized just because I may not be as much a victim as any given random woman's experience? Should I do something ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:29 PM
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Then there's nothing wrong with being fully transparent is there? There's nothing wrong with men having preferences and boundaries for body count or literally any other shallow trait because women are allowed to have preferences and boundaries for any shallow trait that they want too right? Or is it just one group of people or one boundary or preference that's wrong? "You can choose to have any preferences you want, nobody is making you filter out more people as opposed to less." Yeah I know, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:57 PM
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Then that logic always applies to men and women can never complain about men not wanting a relationship with her ever. I imagine the posts about it from women will cease to exist any day now. I guess we also don't need accountability or responsibility, nobody has to be judged for their past choices which means women can no longer bring up anything other men did let alone anything a man in her life ever did in the past. If there's no point in complaining and no point in calling out people in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:34 PM
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Right back at ya. Just don't be surprised when men as you about your body count. You get to be held as accountable as you do for your behavior and choices and if you don't you're just as bad as any given man is. Cry me a river For a woman who's statistically likely to have committed violence, rape, abuse, sexual assault and harassment, has cheated even once in her life, or has committed any other crime at some point in her life? No thanks. Life is indeed not fair. Women are still the biggest whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:26 PM
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Just like someone like you to talk down to someone to feed their response to you summarized by a computer. Instead of putting in effort to connect to my emotional experience. Typical of a lot of women. "I don't care how you feel, summarize it and get to the part where it meaningfully effects me and I'll dictate whether or not I'm supposed to care." I have no doubt women like you get a much greater chance at happiness and fulfilment than I do, simply because you were born lucky. But like a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:17 PM
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Oh just wait. Suddenly women will be calling for "traditional, masculine" men and shaming men who they deem as not qualifying for that, to sign up for what's to come. I am happy that there are more masculine women that will be part of the solution, as opposed to weaker, cowardly, and pathetic women who wouldn't sign up. At least our supply of strong women has increased, that's a positive and I'm sure they'll be great soldiers like I likely will be. Or we'll tear apart the monkeys with the most b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:54 PM
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No, accusing others of the exact behavior they've never exhibited is the selfishness and evil that you ladies want to pretend to be actively avoiding and fighting against, but will gladly make a bargain with in exchange for comfort, hotness, social status, and ease. Lots of women still sell sex work to the evilest and most selfish men in the world coping that it's all about that bread. Not that I'd ever choose a woman who's ever chosen those men and that bread anyway. You ladies are just as bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:31 PM
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That's okay, women have a lot of bad traits and behaviors too. One statistic or one single issue doesn't represent the whole picture. Especially on an individual level. There are lots of men who have never cheated and would never cheat that don't get to meet any women in his league of attractiveness, much less women somewhat below his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:38 PM
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Don't be surprised when men who have built a life, and had it torn down by selfish, abusive, and violent women aren't going to empathize with you because they've never been selfish, abusive, or violent men. But yet there aren't shelters for men. There aren't groups for men. There aren't supports for men who were victims of domestic abuse and violence. You'll have to forgive those men if they don't trust women to not be as abusive, manipulative, and as violent as the men she complains about when …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:32 PM
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Your freedom and autonomy aren't interfered with when you're being asked to give men in your league a chance. You're being asked for empathy. But if you refuse to give empathy freely to others, you can never expect empathy to be freely given to you. But when that doesn't matter, because there are men desperate enough to tell you anything you want to get you in bed and hot and or successful looking enough for you to ignore red flags, that's on you. Not on men you're being asked to empathize with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:21 PM
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That'll all be well and good but you don't even meet the men who aren't ever like that. You hide behind the fact that men can lie and lie by omission as much as women hide behind the fact that they don't need to talk about their body count. But men who have been lifelong feminists, who have their life more or less together and want women in his league. He can't even find that. The only people he hears from are obese women, Trans women, and women who have lived in a world of excess privilege who …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:13 PM
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Right, that's why if she has largely been in or relegated to casual sex then it's a huge red flag for all women. Certainly don't want a LTR with someone who's not bright enough to understand why she can't get a LTR with the people she's attempting to get a LTR with. If the caveat is that men don't get to orgasm but still get to meet a lot more woman and get a lot more sexual relationships as a result I'd say that's a tradeoff I'd take. Women still get orgasms with men who can get it done and it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:45 PM
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This is why body count will always matter. If I'm relegated to only being chosen for long term relationships, your body count and your habit for not being in long-term relationships means that I get to determine your eligibility for a long term relationship, not the other way around. If I ask you your body count, how many situationships (begging for men out of her league for a relationship using sex to try to convince him) she's been in, how long she's spent in limerance, how many losers and "ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:39 PM
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Then take this from my point, there's no point in arguing with men about this subject. Men who have made up their minds and who understand what they're experiencing aren't going to simply relent in their position. You can make logical, emotional, any argument you want. If men in the same attractiveness level as a women can't enjoy dating in the same ways that woman gets to, she's going to continue to be undesirable, or at the very least, girlfriend/pump and dump material, nor wife material. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:57 PM
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We know why, it's because they don't get to date and have sex at the rates women do. Until that changes we simply aren't going to pick women who are promiscuous. I won't cry about a limited dating pool because I'm just going to choose to manipulate, like women do, to make the circumstances in my favor. It I have to lead women on to get what I need and to get a higher body count, then so be it. Some men won't do that but some already manipulate the situation like women tend to manipulate the situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:40 PM
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There really is just no arguing any point. We just don't want women who have been promiscuous. We don't hate women. We're jealous and insecure we don't get to have what women of equal attractiveness get to have. Until inequality in the dating world improves, men who don't get to date around aren't going to choose a woman who's "done" "dating around." If we don't get to "date around" just like women do, then women who date around will continue to be undesirable. There's no argument any woman can …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:08 PM
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The difference is that those women are heartbroken over men way out of her league. They're mad and sad the hottest guys they could get the attention of by using sex to attract him didn't choose her. Whereas men are upset that women don't recognize that they're putting men in their level of attractiveness down for not being at the level of the men who'd pump and dump her, but that pump and dump man also wouldn't settle for her because that man is out of her league and she was being hypergamous an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:23 PM
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You could argue in circles this point all day with women. The fact of the matter is, they're always going to cross their arms and pretend like their toxic standards aren't toxic. Just like men do. The fact of the matter is, both men and women aren't willing to compromise their standards enough to find an equal because all of them and their standards tend to have high demands in an area that they feel they can demand when that just causes them to lose equals because even an equal is going to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:07 PM
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I haven't had a date from a dating app in 12 years because I don't settle for women that are obese, Trans, have serious issues or flaws or who have kids. If we took Allll those people out of what we're talking about, thats like 90% of the people that I match with, or who like me, probably hundreds of "women." The last 10% I have gotten maybe a dozen matches with women that weren't exactly equals and that weren't promising matches and most of those ghosted me. Less just weren't interested and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:10 PM
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I'd say the ones that complain most vocally are. There are certainly ones below and average complaining too. But the middle class, above average men have so much more to lose and so the emotions and rhetoric is generally bigger than the men whove resigned to accept the reality of modern dating, particularly the people who are virgins or who it has been a decade or more of trying and finding zero or less, success. The men who are above average and those who are average are most likely to complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:19 PM
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Likelihood is that those men are going to downplay, straight up lie, or lie by omission, about their history to be more in line with the first category. And women would be none the wiser because he isn't interested in much more than pumping her for a few months before dumping her. And she doesn't really care, until she does when she starts hitting the wall and those men don't give her a chance anymore. She doesn't care because him and her get incredible privilege in dating, any woman below avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:31 PM
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Then maybe more men should start saying above average and of a healthy weight because most of the men that really complain about modern dating are ones that are above average, do have a middle class job, and can't find a woman as above average as he is. Either way, there is a real devaluation of men who are only above average, only middle class, and only as attractive as she is. It's been proven men aren't as picky. It's been proven a lot of those middle class men are looking for love, not sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:01 PM
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If men aren't entitled to anything, than neither are women. And that's a Hell of a blank cheque to sign. It means men aren't going to empathize or sympathize with women when it comes to anything other than basic rights. Women get upset about it because they accuse men of not caring already. But the men who did care, who believed that feminism promised them true equality, will stop caring about treating women with any more respect than they treat us and that's a more serious loss than they think.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:01 PM
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Women really don't get any push back in the army. They aren't treated as equals, they're treated the same as they're treated in irl. Like they're toddlers who are never responsible for their choices or behavior. The reality is, men are still expected to be able to be stereotypically treated like men in the army. Women are expected to be treated like a special class of person, who graces the army and then men in it, with her presence. Never is it more obvious when the most attractive men are in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:04 AM
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Then we feel similarly! I'm glad we could reach a common denominator in our experiences! Best of luck to you and I hope you find the most stirring of loves to fulfill you in all the right ways, just as I do for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:49 PM
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I can't sympathize with women that are that pathetic either, but I acknowledge they're out there and there's not much I can do about it. I could whine and complain about it on the internet, though. And both men and women sure do whine about it on the internet, don't they? Women whine about men wanting to give up his options. Men whine about women not wanting to give up their options. Whining about it on the internet certainly doesn't help their case. I have a feeling that neither does asking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:04 PM
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Why's that a bad thing? I love to care and I deeply value being a good person. What I'm saying is, that if women don't have empathy and sympathy for men, then men have no obligation to return it and theyll internalize that until they get what they want, just like women who do the same to men. Which is why you see what's going on in the states rn. That place has always been a hellish free for all both internally and as it extends itself and its influence externally. Personally, I'd never want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:56 PM
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So? Lots of women are hypocrits. They want to date men who are out of their league and look down on men in their league. Especially obese women. Life isn't fair. Just find men who don't cheat the same way I find women who don't cheat and who haven't engaged in hypergamy or casual dating. You ask, and that's all you can do, and the rest has always just been hoping for the best and hoping bad things don't happen that would effect you. The bigger problem is that men and women don't like it when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:31 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:03 PM
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It's misandry that you think men are a collective or a monolith that give a fuck about pills or specific ideas within certain pills. It's misandry that you believe men might take the whole pill as opposed to certain parts. Which, most actually helpful parts are just what you'd be told in therapy or what you'd learn if you had parents or friends that gave a fuck about you to talk, share, and learn together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:56 PM
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Standards and entitlement, branches of the same tree. If the tree ain't healthy, it doesn't matter if there's a lot of leafs on one branch and none on the other, it's just an unhealthy tree I don't want in my back yard because I have enough experience to know that it will eventually crush my house. And I've had my house crushed, stolen, wrecked, even suffered extreme violence in my own home by women. I've learned enough to know, it's better to just cut that tree down before it ruins my home. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:46 PM
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Just like how women have to bring more to the table or she doesnt get marriage material, like having a low n count and zero history of the same shallowness that men exhibit. If I demand a woman that doesnt have a history of acting like the top 10% of men act, then I'm entitled to it. If I don't want a woman that looks down on me for being a man who isn't desperate for 90% of women, then I can enforce that all I like. There's plenty of men who are desperate to settle for the bottom 90% of women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:44 PM
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And if 80% of women are that way, then you get to reject 80% of women. Women will always have men who are desperate to pump and dump her and are willing to tell her everything she wants to hear to use her like a toilet. Doesn't mean you need to compromise and date a toilet or a former toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:34 PM
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They sure did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:32 PM
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Then I guess men don't need to make life easier for women on their terms. If youre okay with racing to the bottom, it's more of a reflection on you than it is on others. By that logic, men shouldn't move towards caring about women's issues, they should only care about what they want. Feminism, no feminism, equality, no equality. I guess it's all just what we choose on an individual, case by case basis that benefits us in the moment. That's not my choice, I choose feminism, equality, and to treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:30 PM
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Then, neither does he need to meet her expectations. Though, there will always be desperate men who will compromise and there will always be men who were born lucky to have way, way more than 90% of other men and can give women all the fantasies she demands, even if its temporary before he moves on to other women who are desperate to get him to choose her. And women will always be entitled to expect her wants and needs to be met regardless of how realistic it is to get in reality. Nobody has to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:26 PM
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It'd probably be too ranty or too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:19 PM
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Same thing if a man expects to be loved the way another woman loved him. If he expects her to live up to those expectations, that's his choice. And if she chooses to try to be with him, she needs to meet those expectations. No matter the expectation or standard or boundary, we all deserve and are entitled to have them. Edit: Oof, double standard downvotes eh? Not surprising given what I've learned about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:10 PM
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Not even rape, sexual assault, harassment, cheating, or treating women poorly? Addiction, debts, so many potential dealbreakers I'd have a lot less respect for anyone that just ignored that kind of history or never asked if they had any of that history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:07 PM
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You just ignore them like I ignore women I'm not interested in and like how a lot of women are confident that they can ignore men irl and on OLD. Giving someone a space to whine is fine and even important. Doesn't mean you need to listen to them and that's real power. Just like I use the same power to ignore what women who aren't compatible with me as friends or more, think, believe, and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:01 PM
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"The red pill doesn't view women..."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:52 PM
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I shouldn't. That'd be running towards the female gaze as opposed to just being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:46 PM
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Then I guess the men who follow that red pill are that way huh? It's almost as if the red pill is as much a framework as blue pills, purple pills, or no pills that you never needed to follow to the letter 🤷🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:43 PM
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Women need to also stop acting like all men need to be a certain way. Particularly, they need to understand that some men just aren't looking for the female gaze, they're looking for a woman's gaze. But judging by how many women want men that have tons of other women as options, to change, I'm not holding my breath. Usually it's just that woman want certain men to change for them and they don't care about the rest who won't change for the female gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:40 PM
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You're only talking about differences in lifestyle. Which doesn't mean anything to anyone not motivated by the same things. It reassures people like yourself. But you're not representative of everyone nor does your misandrist views of men represent all men. Don't be as bitter as men are that you chose a different lifestyle and that they advocate for their own lifestyle. That's just sad and you projecting your views on your experience on to someone else it might not even apply to. I'm glad you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:30 PM
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You wouldn't. Pills or any other ideas like it are dumb as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:25 PM
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Misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:24 PM
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Wow. The irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:23 PM
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Misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:22 PM
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The red pill was never a instruction manual that you need to follow to the letter. You still get to make your choices about who you are, what motivates you, and what you want out of life. Women projecting that any man wants to fuck just anyone as often as offered and is possible is already coming from a place of misandry. It's no different from the misogyny coming from men that any woman who got pumped and dumped 4-5 times a year for a couple years is a whore. What matters is who you choose, wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:21 PM
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