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Women already commonly have sex with the "wrong" men that do bad things and that's because of physical attraction I never said this was fool proof or that it applies to all women. But you guys act like all women commonly sleep around with hot asshole strangers. Only a small minority of women do this. If women found a larger portion of men physically attractive, more parity would be observed in the behavior of both genders. No. This disparity happens because men's spontaneous desire requires only…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:06 PM
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Responsive desire in women makes the most sense, evolutionary speaking. Women literally evolved to become more attracted to men after they get to know them better. If women had spontaneous desire like men have, their well-being or potentially their life could be in danger. They would act upon these desires with bad/wrong men, get pregnant, and risk their survival. Responsive desire is nature's ongoing mechanism that assures women's safety and well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 09:18 PM
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We met in fifth grade. We became a couple in 7th grade and got married after college ❤️.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:32 PM
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True, especially for this sub. A lot of men here can't stand the men that don't follow the general stereotype. Men that said stuff like: "I don't prefer a virgin over a woman with a normal body count", "I am attracted to personality first" or "I prefer a woman my age, not an 18 yo" are called low-T, ugly, beta, liers, gay and ridiculed "I hope she reads this, bro" etc. It honestly breaks my heart. How can men break free and heal from stupid rigid stereotypes when they are subjected to such press…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:42 AM
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Idk for other women, but for me the disgusting part of male sexuality is not that it's too much. That's not the issue. It's the fact that it's completely objectifying and that men don't respect the women they sleep with, or care about who they are as people. They just want access to their body and that's it. On this sub we hear it everyday that men will sleep with anybody and if a guy sleeps with you it means nothing and men even brag about it. Most women are considered "for the streets", "singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:27 AM
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I love Been Brown and I am familiar with her work. Please explain how what I said is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 09:19 PM
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Not the "men built society, therefore I personally deserve a grateful girlfriend".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:35 AM
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Yes. This is it. Masculinity: confidence Toxic masculinity: arrogance, acting all superior Masculinity: resilience Toxic masculinity: thinking emotions and vulnerability are a sign of weakness Masculinity: assertiveness Toxic masculinity: aggression, bully behavior Masculinity: courage Toxic masculinity: recklessness, doing stupid dangerous stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:11 AM
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despite all this, the men are probably still finding ways to get themselves off. Yes, but it's not their preferred method, is it? Women also finish themselves off alone, but they prefer it happens within sex. That EXACT thing the OP is saying women DON'T do enough of No, OP is saying that women can only orgasm when they're with a Fantasy-Type guy. Women aren't asking me what I want, I'm asking for it. I agree they should ask but is "touch the clit!" really that groundbreaking? Do men have to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:01 AM
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Yeah sounds fun the first couple of times, but then frustration would appear. Remember how men complain that their woman doesn't perform blowjobs (to his satisfactory degree), or doesn't do anal, or she starfishes, isn't sensual or into it, isn't initiating, is too vanilla, doesn't want to try new things? Thinking that men would be completely satisfied with sex that doesn't involve their pleasure just proves how you can't even imagine this scenario because sex will almost always involve male ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:37 AM
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For real. If normal expected mainstream sex would mean a woman riding a guy's knee until she came, and only touching his penis if she's being generous, then there would also be an orgasm gap, but reversed, and men would be the ones accused of not being attracted to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:46 AM
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Why do you need to close your eyes? To focus better on the sensations. I can't explain it, but women need to focus on getting that orgasm. It's like chasing a sneeze. It's right there, but you need to focus to not lose it. Any distractions will take you from 8 to 4 on the horniness scale. So no, we don't fantasize about other men, wtf. We just try to clear our heads, reduce distractions and focus on the present moment, on what's happening with the body. Women who have sex with very good looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:40 AM
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No, I actually feel the opposite: very happy for her that she found a man who cares about more than just looks and impressed with him. I feel the same when I see very attractive women with unattractive men, it's just wholesome to see people looking past the superficial things and loving someone for who they are as people. It makes me have faith in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:55 AM
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I agree. I remember when one of my guy friends tried to flirt with my sister. He acted so weird, bringing his motorcycle into the conversation, swearing a lot to appear dominant and nonchalant. I don't get it. He is actually an amazing guy, but he appeared like a jackass amd blew it. On a different note, I fucking love it when I discover something interesting about a guy by accident. Like the fact that he plays the guitar or he once fostered a puppy. If he didn't mention it or lead me into it, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:05 PM
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Yes! This. I care a lot for men who want a deep meaningful relationship with a woman they love and care about. But complaining about not having casual sex easy with presumably hot young women? Yeah, nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:47 PM
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A man wanting pitty for not getting free easy sex is like a woman wanting pitty for not getting free expensive dinner dates. "My friend is a 10/10, great body and a sweet personality. She tries to get guys to pay for an expensive dinner and luxurious travels every time, but it only works out like 10% of the time. How very sad. Why won't guys acknowledge how difficult it is for women to get what they dream of?". Just yuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:40 PM
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Number 4: where the captain and first mate switch roles often depending on the problem. Me and my husband both deal with different aspects of our life. For example he will always have authority over how to invest our money the same way I will always l have authority over how our home should look. We always talk things over but the person with the most knowledge and interest in the matter usually decides. There was never a problem with this setup in all my years of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:24 PM
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Ok, but why are you talking like every man on this planet works a life threatening job? I too can play this game: meanwhile women get pregnant and risk dying of complications at any moment, while hubby is comfortably living his best life yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:02 PM
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This doesn't really answer my question, though, but I empathize with men's situation. I think women are afraid to be vocal about their attraction to men because this will just make men interpret everything as "I want to have sex with you", and for women finding someone physically attractive and wanting to have sex with them are different things. You can see the way women treat gay guys: lovey-dovey, complimenting them all the time, being touchy-feely. It's because they feel safe doing so. I agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:12 AM
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Are you even Red Pill? Chad is what every man aspires to be, it isn't a derogatory term, by men's admission. Every man here wants the "Chad treatment" and "Chad experience".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:52 AM
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So if women would collectively start expressing their attractiveness to men more freely, would men collectively stop shaming women for sleeping with men? How would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:48 AM
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But at the same time, men using sex worker and OF are shaming the women who are providing the service. Also, no man would want to date and marry a sex worker. So, it's just hypocrisy on top of hypocrisy for both genders. As a feminist, I personally don't believe sex work is empowering at all. I don't think anybody should be shamed for doing/using the service, but I think it should be discouraged and expected that doing/using sex work decreases one's dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 06:06 AM
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Dude, if you think you're attracted to every skinny biological woman, then you're just proving the fact that ugly women are literally invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:28 AM
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On a passport bro subreddit post someone asked if they don't think it's assholish to use so many women just for sex and then search for a nice virgin to marry? And a man responded "Why are you shaming male sexuality? It's natural and healthy for a man to do this." So, if someone believes that behaviour is part of normal male sexuality, of course they'd find it offensive. Seriously, men would get laid so much more if the women's reputation wouldn't be questioned afterwards (by society in general)…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:03 AM
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I would think around 5% (the socially maladapted ones) Most people are ok enough to be a good enough partner for someone out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:38 AM
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I was about to make the same argument. A man that acts as described by the OP isn't gonna be considered a "premium" man in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:39 PM
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Yes, absolutely. The compliments also seem to imply that a good respectable man has a "big dick", "big balls" and a "strong erection". Not cool...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:17 AM
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I've never mocked a man based on dick size, neither as a joke or as an insult and I really wish people would stop using genitals and immutable characteristics when describing distinct behavior: "weak dick", "big balls", "balls of steel", "small dick energy", "no blood in the instalation" (phrase from my country).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:06 AM
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Not unpopular but i truly believe most dating problems come from poor socialization as kid, sheltered upbringing, lack of outdoor activities with other people and generally too much time spent online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:33 AM
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I agree for the most part, cause I always said that the red pill is just blue pill but described in a more black&white manner for non-socialized people. However, "Women chase alphas when they're young and betas when they're older." That's not how the RP says it, though. Rather: women ride the alpha dick carousel in their youth, then settle for Billy betas when they hit a wall (at 30), whom they're NOT attracted to, to use them for their money, not "giving" them any sex and always reminiscing abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:14 AM
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people think dicks are waaaay more important than they actually are Hilarious but you're spot on. Phrases like "once you go black, you never go back", "Chad dick", "vagina is streched forever after a big dick / multiple different dicks", "a good dick cures a lesbian" are not only wrong but also cringe as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:27 AM
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Yes, it's not a need, it's a want. Same as how sex is not a need, it's a want. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:34 PM
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What? I've never heard a woman say this in my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:06 AM
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Excellent point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:14 AM
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The amount of eye-rolling I did while reading this. This is not how anything works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:11 AM
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Same. When men say "she fucked Chad and will always think about him and compare him to you" I immediately think "cause this is what you would do, right?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:30 PM
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Yes, I actually did intend to buy a ring and/or donut (I think that's what they're called). Thanks for the suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:06 PM
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Yeah, nah. My husband is "well-endowed" and sex does hurt. Hitting the cervix is a sharp pain that radiates and effectively removes my desire, so idk why men keep seeing it as sign of pride. My husband also always has to contain himself, to not push too far too soon or sex is over. Does that sound like fun to you? Also, I still can't orgasm from penetration, so his big dick provides no extra benefit. I think other physical factors are more important in this discussion than purely size: - the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:33 AM
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I tried to look at the TRM scale, but the images are everywhere. Some 3s are actually not that bad, while some are really bad. Also, I don't think i'm ugly. I was voted the prettiest girl in class (by the boys) in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:32 PM
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It's usually a combination of 2 or more traits like weird shaped head, very big nose, fat, acne scars, very croocked teeth, bulging eyes, very short, old etc. I tried to look at the "objective" TRM scale but it's pretty ridiculous. Basically physical appearance for me lies in the face mostly and I like faces that indicate that the person is kind. I don't like the hunter eye shit. Those men seem evil and suspicious to me. I also gotta say, i have rarely seen a legit ugly guy that is my age, maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:28 PM
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I'm usually NOT attracted to anybody anyway, but if a guy is at least mid-range physically speaking, he will become VERY attractive to me if I find him interesting. If he is legit ugly (like sub 3/10), then no, there's no chance of him becoming attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:57 PM
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For me the primary reason I don't display a sexual persona in public is that I know that doing it will automatically put me in a dangerous position. Just smiling is enough for some men to believe you're into them, now imagine what being openly sexual would do. It would feel like an open invitation to some creepy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:28 AM
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This is glorious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:16 PM
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Ok, let's say you can only afford one dog. And let's replace "dump" with finding a new home for it. Try to go along with the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:14 PM
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Let's sau you meet a dog who's more beautiful and knows more tricks than your dog. It has a lushious fur and is clearly super in shape, it's also willing to get to know you and wags it's tail at you, indicating interest. Would you dump your "inferior" dog for a chance with this brand new "superior" dog?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 12:35 PM
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Sure not all men, but ALL women were oppressed. I agree that a lot of times women resort to explaining things as if men had the most negative intentions possible, but men also do it to women. So, let's all just stop and be good people. We all got hurt one way or the other by the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:34 PM
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thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:22 PM
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I think a lot of men really identify with their dicks, so porn has taken this idea and turned it into "woman is absolutely smashed/transformed/changed forever by a huge dick" cause that’s a hot fantasy for them, making them believe even more that dick size has power and matters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:24 PM
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I am saying it because it does happen. Mentioning stuff other men do and expecting rewards for those things: "Men literally die on the battlefield for the entire country, and a woman can't even cook for me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:19 PM
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I agree that women should stop making men accountable for things other men did. But also, I kindly ask men to stop piggybacking on things other men did. "Men built civilisation, men invented everything" etc. If you wanna use this as a rebutal to something, then women are gonna use "Men oppressed and raped women."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:58 PM
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Right? Nobody talks about dicks more than men. Also, I really wish men could swap bodies with a woman and feel for themselves how a dick feels, which is not like much to be honest. I was extremely underwhelmed when i first had sex cause i expected to feel something, not nothing. Most of the feeling is only around the entrace like 2 inches inside. The girth is what's at if we're being honest and a big dick will only add pain. If women had higher sensation for the entirety of their vagina, I can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:28 AM
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True, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:00 AM
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Thanks, CS875. Yeah, I knew this will summon the "women attracted to murderers and psychopats" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:53 AM
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Of course biology plays a part. It would be crazy and evolutionary wrong for women to only fall for looks cause women can get physically hurt and killed by men or they can get pregnant and be left alone. So the best way to filter out these men is to make personality a part of attraction. Women evolved this way as a safety net for their survival and well being. This doesn't mean it doesn't go wrong sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:42 AM
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Random men that I think look attractive: every day Random men that I find sexually attractive: never in my entire life Only after knowing the men in first category can they get promoted to the second category. Also, men that I initially didn’t find attractive can also upgrade to sexually attractive if I think they're interesting. Also, being sexually attracted to a guy, doesn't necessarily mean i want to have sex with him. It's complicated y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:32 AM
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I was using a general "you" (men and women), not referring to you in particular. Sorry if you felt it was a personal attack, it really wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:53 PM
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Both questions are expressed clearly and both might be indication of something deeper (too much stress from chores / needing more intimacy). Why not start by being proactive and asking for more details while already starting the thing? Do we really need to know every single minute detail of the thing beforehand and what implications it has and what it actually means? Do you really want it to get to a point where the other one BEGS you to do it already or else they leave for you to actually under…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:11 PM
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Lmao, it has to be. As soon as I saw blackpill I raised my eyebrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:48 PM
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"Can you give me a blowjob?" This is such a mistery question, amirite ladies? Is he asking for it right now? Just today? Regularly? And how to do it specifically? Does the person asking prefer it in a specific way? So many questions, it's basically impossible to know the answers. Why can't we just ask him is beyond me. This question is actually a rife for miscommunication and frustration. So better to just ignore it then, until the man expresses an ultimatum, the healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:38 PM
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This is not a reponse to my comment. I agree that "the bar is in hell" is stupid to say and not accurate (for either gender), but do you agree or not that you are comparing the minimum for men with the maximum for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:02 AM
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This is comparing the absolute bare minimum men's list with the absolute dream guy for women's list (which by the way is still ridiculous). Bad faith post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:16 AM
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Dude, are you serious right now, cause I can't tell if you're trolling or being intentionally obtuse or worse of all, serious... We are talking about sharing your partner with other people of the opposite sex. The question was if women would share their man. You said people should be selfless and do that as a sign of love. So I asked "well would you share your woman with other men, you know, as a sign of love?". And this is where you go off rails by basically saying "yes, I would let my woman sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:45 AM
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The dynamics that happened on Temptation Island happen IRL, and most boys and men have observed that. My friend's husband is a freaking male model and a succesful dentist and she divorced him the moment she found out he was cheating on her. They also have a child together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:28 AM
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That's certaibly what a person with self-respect would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:37 PM
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So are men who are having an affair with a married woman. But the point is that they're not happily sharing them, they hope that the affair partner will divorce and become monogamous. They view the affair as a transitioning period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:30 PM
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Wow, ok. Seems like you get off from being disciplined through spanking. Pls don't assume all women share your kink. Thank you and have a nice day. Oh, and abusing kids is illegal 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:53 PM
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Well lucky you, then. I'm from Europe (central-east). I didn’t say women feared for their life, but that it happened occasionaly if the husband was in a bad mood and she was around. That's still DV. Husbands were allowed to spank their wives but that is different than the beatings that feminists love to pretend were so common. Many women today enjoy being spanked. Sorry, wtf?? Are you saying women enjoyed being abused by their husbands? Or are you talking about spanking in a sexual way? Are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:17 PM
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I don't understand what you're saying. Is this another case of "it's ok when men do it because reasons"? How is sharing a man and sharing a woman different for the primary partner involved? Also, you didn’t answer my question: would you (a man from your flair) share your woman with other men, if you love her and if she wants it? Will you be selfish and deny her (your logic) or will you be selfless and prove your love (also your logic)?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:03 PM
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Did you ask? In multiple ways? Cause i believe it was prevalent enough to be considered normal. Even the books we were supposed to read in middleschool for literature mentioned DV in various romanticized ways , like: "he loved her very much and protected her like a lion, but he was not shy of disciplining her once in a while with his hand, whenever she stepped out of line."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:45 PM
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It wasn't a scientific documentary. It was just retelling stories about how life and romance happened. Not much romance to be honest. Most couples got together because they were supposed to find someone and they thought they'd make a good team to raise a family and sustain themselves. One of my grandmothers was slapped and "slightly" beaten by her husband, so I tend to believe that it was common. My other grandmother was only jokingly warned about needing a good beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:32 PM
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You said that love is selfless and asked why would the original commenter want to selfish and not share him if that makes him happier. So, i'm asking you the same question. If you won't share your girlfriend with other men if she wants to, then you don't love her, by your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:24 PM
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They did a documentary in my country where they interviewed old couples 75+ about relationships back then. Guess what, every woman was physically "disciplined" by her husband at least once, some beaten regularly. The husbands seemed quite embarrased by this and tried to downplay it. Indeed, the "best" times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:54 PM
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Woman is by her husband's side when sick = she wants the man to owe her big time, the evil bitch 😤 Man is by her wife's side when sick = just a true loyal loving partener 🥰 The mental gymnastics on this one is quite impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:21 PM
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If you love your girlfriend, then would you share her with other guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:06 PM
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Yes. Similar to: male sexuality is spontaneous (the act itself is spontaneously desired) and female sexuality is responsive (the person and the context produce the desire).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:45 AM
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I think sharing a man has little to do with that man and more to do with the woman's situation. I guess in VERY tough circumstances like extreme poverty, return of female subjugation etc, I would prefer to share a good man, any good man that would treat me good, than to suffer and die. It's not a preference, it's a survival mechanism. If I would ever get to that point, you bet i'll hate every moment of it. Just the thought of a guy playing couple with multiple women disgusts me sexually, so I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:20 AM
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What's the difference between a guy who'll have sex with anybody and a guy going after me cause he thinks I'm an easy target? None, I was just emphasizing it with more details.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:14 PM
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How does one even define emotional connection? I never engaged in casual sex, but I don't think I would be able to have sex with a guy without the following: he likes me and is interested in me as a person, I like him as a person, is not the type of guy who'll just have sex with anybody and i was an easy target, I know at least some minimum info about him, I broadly mapped out his personality, i feel safe and we enjoy others presence, we have chemistry or some pull that draws us to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:13 PM
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Dude, are you serious right now? I worry more that he might find red pill and incel crap online, believe it, then hate women and live a miserable life because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:28 AM
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Yeah, I worry a bit about loneliness but honestly I worry more that he might find red pill and incel crap online, believe it, then hate women and live a miserable life because of it. He's only 3 yo, but I plan to let him know I love him all day everyday, i plan to hug and kiss him all the time. Ain't gonna let nobody affect him with the "men don't cry, men don't wear this color, men gotta be strong, you have to be a man" shit. I want him to be able to come to me or my husband with any problem. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:32 AM
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Idk about that. Men also find it inherently disgusting when their woman has been sucking another man's dick. Is that misandry? Yeah, I think so, in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:07 PM
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Some men here really don't understand that this is not some humble cute brag "omg, my bf is sooo big, I can barely walk afterwards lol". No. Hitting the cervix creates a sharp pain that kind of sticks around a bit and kills the mood by 100%. It's a very vulnerable experience to be the one penetrated by a much larger person who can easily underestimate how painful a big dick or a specific move can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:43 PM
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Wait, does sex exclusively mean penetrative jackhammering to you? If yes, then I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:26 AM
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Lol, that's wild, wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:43 PM
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Stringing people along is definitely wrong, but I didn’t pick up from the post that he knows about her feelings, just that they agreed to be FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:23 PM
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Why is he wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:49 PM
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I agree. He was clear on his behalf and she consented to that specific agreement, so he did nothing wrong. If she feels used or doesn't like the agreement anymore, she can just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:42 PM
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I'm not the original commenter but I really appreciate the good-faith question. My response would be: light and fun flirtation coupled with interest in who she is as a person, what she likes, what she believes, asking questions about her, listening and then remembering details about what she said (remember her dogs name, her favorite flower, remember and respect that she doesn't eat cheese or whatever). Make her feel safe. Don't add sexual inuendos too soon or too strong. You gotta be good at re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:37 PM
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Nah, those men will call you a whore regardless if you had sex or not. I was called a "little whore" by a bunch of construction old ass men when I was going home from school at 14, cause I didn’t look their way when they cat-called.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:18 PM
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I remember a man on this sub once said that a ONS is more valuable to a man than the hundreds of sex times with his wife, even though the wife picked him forever and may have sacrificed her body to deliver his children, she put effort and attention into the relationship, maybe cooked and cleaned for him. He was like "nah, ONS is still more valuable cause I didn’t have to provide anything for her". Well, shit... if that's not messed up I don't what is. There was also a post here suggesting men sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:15 PM
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Yup, I have said plenty times already on this sub: men here think other men's sexuality is disgusting and that it permanently taints the woman. They don't like women who slept around because of these other men, they think gay sex is disgusting but lesbians are A-ok (n-counts with women don't even count). There are also tropes about not men not wanting to see the face of male actors in porn. It's missandry really, especially since they assume that any other previous man must have left a bad energ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:57 PM
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No, pls don't disrespect people like that. Nobody should train anybody. Find someone compatibile and if both of you are open to communication and compromise, then neighter of you will need to play stupid games in order to have the relationship you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:09 AM
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Loud men and women have more online visibility for their gender, that's for sure. That's how we get "all women are shallow insta-hoes living life on easy-mode" and "all men are mysoginistic perveted predators" from people who live mostly on the internet. But I don't agree with the fact that only toxic women are to blame for "the destruction of society" or that average women are completely powerless and are at the mercy of toxic women. I am a pretty average woman and I have never felt at the merc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:05 AM
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men put more effort in the courting phase and women put more effort into the relationship phase. This is a phrase that men here acknowledged as well. One guy said said something along the lines of: "yeah, because dating is a struggle and once you finally found someone, you just want to rest". And I believe them. I'm not trying to berate men or anything. I think both genders handle relationship hardships in their own way: women try to talk through it, men keep their feelings for themselves and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:07 AM
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Wait, in your previous comment you said it's cowardly and apathetic to stay in relationship if you don't like it, but now that I said that men do this more, you say that this is could actually just be that men holding on to their word and being loyal to the relationship promise? Plus you're making a lot of assumptions. Before checking out, women do put a lot of effort into the relationship. More women are asking for relationship advice, they want to talk about problems, they communicate when thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:17 AM
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No, dude, the trope is that they are not happy in the relationship, whether they don't get sex, aren't appreciated, don't feel loved or supported etc. Men tolerate this more than women, and they usually prefer to be miserable or cheat than to break up (and they think this is honorable). Women don't usually stay in unhappy relationships, they will check out first, and if nothing changes after a while, they leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:26 AM
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It's a trope that men will stay in unhappy relationships for years and men here call this "being loyal".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:50 AM
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I just knew this comment would be up here. "Dude, i'm telling you, I cried once and 6 months later she broke up with me. It's totally cause of the crying, nothing else 😤."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:49 AM
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Like someone said, this sub is great for self-esteem and for appreciating our boyfriends and husbands!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:23 AM
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Yes, it just takes a few reads on this sub and on Reddit in general to see how many self-proclaimed good men are actually full of hatred, resentment and are actually not good at all. Elliot Rodger, the hero of incels kept saying that he was the supreme gentleman who would treat women like queens. I am also starting to think that men here believe any guy who had any female action or has any self-esteem and confidence is an asshole by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:38 AM
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What you're basically saying is love doesn't exist Then I think you need to define to yourself what love is and give examples. If unconditional love would exist, that would mean that there are NO CONDITIONS whatsoever for your love to exist. You would fall equally in love with a sweet 20 yo woman, and a 60yo pedophile man or a person from across the Globe you've never even met IRL. Love would be completely random, it just makes no sense. You also forget that there are different types of love, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:11 AM
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What’s also crazy is that he still paid for those 2 extra plates... it's like he preferred throwing money out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:43 AM
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I confirm. This is exactly how it is. I know a lot of men here don't believe it, but even random good looking man won't trigger anything other than "i factually see with my eyes that this guy is good looking" (same as "this car is blue") in most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:40 PM
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The original commenter said that women view all men and women as neuter people (unless they are actively atrracted to one) deserving of basic respect, while men only do so for women they'd like to fuck, while also criticizing the hell out of women they don't want to fuck like they're personally affecting them. Your comment seems to prove her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:34 PM
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No. In the same study where they found that women only found 20% of men attractive (you know, the stat that keeps being repeated here) they found that women were more likely to message men accross the attractiveness scale, unlike men who mostly focused on the more atractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:18 AM
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Then I think you need to define what love is. Because true unconditional love doesn't actually exist. If it would exist, then you'd fall equally mad in love with a 60 year old woman as you would with a sweet hot 20 year old. Women don't use men for money, but financial stability (or behaviours that suggests future finacial stability) is a subconscious condition for a lot of women. The love is real though, and men and women have different subcobscious conditions that need to be fulfilled first so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:08 AM
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They don't like to talk about that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:09 AM
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This is the comment I was looking for. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:02 AM
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They prioritise their own selfish desire for financial security through another human being. You could say this about basically anything though, such as: Men prioritize their own selfish desire for sexual release through another human being. Men will break up if they don't "get" the sex they want (early, often, kinky, spontaneous etc). Do you also think their love isn't genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:56 AM
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True, but I see it downplayed by red pill men here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:47 AM
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Yes, I suppose you're right. I guess i just rarely see an RP man mention game/personality as an important thing in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:20 PM
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I sometimes hard agree with RP men and this is one of those times. I think it really boils down to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:15 PM
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You know what's funny? That what you say is completely anecdotal too. Do you know any men who married virgins and know details about their sex lives? Probably not, cause most people aren't virgins when they get married. Yet you confidently say how much better it is if the woman is a virgin (only the woman, amirite?). Unlike you, I do personally know such cases. I'm not saying it's a guarateed experience, but that the risk is higher. Ah, and also that serious ritualistic approach to sex I was men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 09:45 AM
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At 12 I wanted to touch his hand, at 14 I wanted to kiss him, at 15 I wanted him to touch my body and at 16-17 I wanted to have sex with him. Then I wanted to marry him and so I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 10:08 PM
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True and yet they receive it more than women who do need it in order to orgasm. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:07 AM
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What? I really hope you're not serious. A blow job most definitely isn't easier than oral sex on women. This is madness and actually proves the original commenter's point even further. I'm simplifying things, but oral sex for women is like licking an icecream, oral sex for men is like shoving a banana down your throat making sure the teeth doesn't touch it while at the same time trying to breathe, control the gag reflex and the saliva accumulating in your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:17 AM
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What substance do you want? I know him, I know what he wants, what he likes and you just assume he's like you. When people are young or inexperienced they want someone on their level, which is completely understandable, but once someone gained experience they realise they don't want to go back to being with someone completely inexperienced. If someone loves sex and is confident in their ability, they want someone uninhibited who also loves sex, who views sex through a more lighhearted fun lens, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:20 AM
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Wow, so you do actually believe you know my husband better... well, good luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:47 AM
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First of all, that's not how most men are but i do grant you that it's more older men who think very highly of themselves. Second of all, what I noticed is that although a lot of struggling men think they're ugly, most of them also think of themselves as truly good, respectful and honest working guys with the best of intentions and great morals, more superior to any Chad on any characteristic besides looks. They think they're the ones deserving of women, but it's women's fault for being dumb and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:45 AM
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Dude, we were both virgins when we married, I know him since we were 10 and this was the only relationship for both of us. We're mid 30s now. Do you really think you know him better than I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:18 AM
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Everyone's starts as a virgin, so yeah, of course not all virgins are like this. I'm talking about the scenario where a woman abstaines for years from having sex to preserve her purity. You really think there isn't a higher risk that this woman isn't gonna prioritize sex as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:10 AM
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"It's good advice for them because I benefit from it" basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:44 AM
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Are you familiar with the trope of men thinking they're more handsome than they are? Or thinking they could win points against Serena Williams, or successfully fight a bear? Or believing that opening their relationship will result in him being a true fuckboy slaying left and right? Idk about that "grounded and realistic self-perception".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:43 AM
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I don't disagree with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:31 AM
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He did. Me and him married as virgins, believe it or not, and he absolutely loves sex but I struggled for years with being open with expressing my sexuality because I repressed it so hard trying to remain a virgin. So yeah, i'm sure if we would ever divorce he most definitely wouldn't choose a virgin. He prefers someone who enjoys being sexual, someone with more experience who knows stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:30 AM
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Yup. When I told my husband that in this sub most men want virgin women, he was like "But... why?".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:13 PM
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Right?? Hyper analysing the most basic shit like everything is part of some evil grand plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:08 PM
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What? How is it misandry that female sexuality is mostly responsive and not mostly spontaneous like male sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:59 PM
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Nah, I just think men don't realise just how responsive and easily inhibited female sexuality is by design, so you think we're rewarding/punishing you when in fact we just want to do it it or really don't want to do it. I agree that there are women out there treating it transactionally, but it's definitely not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:14 PM
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There's a difference between deliberately witholding sex and not wanting to have sex. Witholding sex implies that she wants it but composes herself in order to achieve something, which very few women do. The other is just not wanting sex because you're exhausted or you don't feel connected to your partner in that moment, which happens a lot cause women's libido is most of the time dependent on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:20 PM
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But you said partners should punish each other with actions, cause talking is lame. What if your partner is punishing you by witholding sex because of something you did/didn’t do? You should be ok with her approach because it's what you suggest men do in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:14 PM
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Plot twist: what if your wife is punishing YOU by not having sex with you because she isn't getting enough X,Y,Z from you? Sounds like you would be onboard with this type of behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:11 AM
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The researchers determined that while men’s sexual desirability peaks at age 50, I'm going to stop you right there, cause it's insane to believe that men in their 50s are the most desirable. There is no way that this is true. Also, doesn't this contradict thhat other graph that showed that women are most attracted to men around their age (2-3 older)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:12 AM
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Well said. I agree 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:18 AM
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I was only agreeing that removing sex doesn't make it less of a relationship, and that intimacy can be achieved without sex. If we remove the intimacy with sexual connotations (depending on what how people define it), then i guess you have: hugging, saying "i love you", kissing on the cheek, tickling, dancing, having deep conversations, looking into each others eyes, spending more time together, kissing the forhead, nibbling the ear for laughs, stroking the hair, touching noses, whispering into …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:21 AM
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For real. Me and husband didn’t have sex for years well into our relationship cause we were teenagers. That was most definitely not "just a frienship".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:22 PM
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Most people prefer to have a socially adequate partener as opposed to one who can't handle himself in normal everyday social situations but can remeber what the weather was like on April 2nd 1995. The later just doesn't come in handy often enough to compensate for downside.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:28 AM
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We consider any money that comes in to be ours, no matter of its my account or his, and we always discuss when spending it on something unusual or expensive. We also track all our expenses on a cash app so we know where the money goes. We're very organized în this matter. I honestly don't understand how not sharing finances would even work, especially when kids are involved. Having it separate just feels like extra work and it feels like family goals are achieved harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:23 PM
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It's not older generations, but older men, boomer men. I think it boils down to the fact that gender roles were so devided that anything related to food and the social calendar was 100% a woman's job. The woman was handling the diets, making appointments, assuring everyone is healthy etc. So now when they're old, these men have no skills, no idea how to take care of themselves, what pills to take, what type of diet they need. Some don't even know what their diagnostic is. The wives of these men …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:15 AM
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My husband is a doctor and he treats mostly old people. He said a lot of old men come with their wives cause their wives handle their medicine, their diet and appointments because otherwise they'd do nothing about their health. That's why I freaking love modern men. They can handle themselves. He also said that a lot of wives are coddling their husbands in a condescending manner which of course deepens the issue further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:50 AM
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If it happened once some time ago out of curiosity/desperation and never again cause he realised it's not for him, it would be ok with me, I think. But if it happened more than once and he enjoyed having sex with someone who doesn't actually want to do it, then it's a total dealbreaker. I'd also be kinda scared of him, tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:30 PM
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I can't believe you you took this wholesome belief (which I agree with, btw) and then used it to justify pump & dumping and free meal dates. Wow...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:50 PM
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I agree so much. I married as a young virgin (to my middleschool boyfriend). And I have a major ick for men who obsess about body-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:11 AM
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People owe each other basic respect and human decency, yes. Empathy? I guess, not sure about this one. Are you obligated to feel empathy towards any type of complaint from people? Because when men complain about loneliness, that's reasonable and women should feel empathy towards that. I know I do. But the complaint is that men don't get easy sex... That's like women complaining online about how men won't give them free money to make their lives worth living. So you can see how that sounds a bit …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:14 PM
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I think it's about men being disgusted with other men's sexuality. It's misandry really. They think a man's sexuality is filthy and tarnishes the woman, especially if he went raw. That's why they think gays are disgusting but lesbians are hot. Lesbian sex most likely doesn't even count as an n-count to these guys. It's always about other men. The dude above said he doesn't want other men to give him the look about sleeping with someone who's already been with someone else. There was also another…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:51 PM
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This is most definitely not a catch phrase. I just did a quick search on reddit for this phrase and I didn’t find any instance of a woman saying this. I found in contexts such as "not every woman who shows you basic human decency is into you". The one you're thinking about is probably "women don't owe you sex/attention/anything".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:35 PM
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What is your opinion of women having sex with lots of different guys, so she knows for sure what type of men she's attracted to? She's doing what you said people would do in the past: test every possible type of guy so she can get a perfect match when it's time for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:30 AM
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What? No. The saying is: women don't owe anyone sex or to be eye candy. Human decency and respect should be the default way to treat everyone. And if you don't receive that, you call that behaviour out whitout stooping to their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:11 AM
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Yeah, I think they're very different. The visual aspect of porn brings it to life, impresses the mind and imprints on your brain to use as a memory. Reading about a murder in detail and actually having those details uncensored and shown to you are two VERY different things. In one case you imagine something horrific but your imagination is gonna be limited to what you experienced previously. In the other scenario, things are shown that you wouldn't have imagined that way, it's completely outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:53 PM
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That's equally shitty and should be called out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:37 AM
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I fear them because I feel they might kill me, not rape me, but I can't figure out why i feel this way. Rape seems logically plausible as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:56 PM
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why else would women be especially wary of less desirable men? The most scary men to me are the desperate socially inept guys who seem like they never talked to women. I'm not talking shy, i'm talking weird social interactions, staring, clingyness, inappropriate conversation or touch. I feel that people who are socially inept have needed to resort to imagining and fantasizing a lot (like imagining how their girlfriend would behave) and thus they put a lot of weight and meaning on basic real soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:11 PM
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I want guys to acknowledge that this is a double standard and stop making mental gymnastics that promiscuity is good for men but bad for women. Have any preference you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:17 PM
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If something is hard it doesn't mean it's good. And if it's easy it doesn't mean it's bad. For a "Chad" it's super easy to sleep with women. Does this mean he's trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:10 PM
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This I agree with. What bothers me is the double standard, like I said. Everyone can go wild with their preferences, but it's not fair to hate someone for doing something you yourself desperately wanted to do but couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:56 AM
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Then you agree that women sleeping around and men sleeping around is equally bad (or neutral, whatever). Something is not good just cause it's done by a man and bad if done by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:43 AM
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I am not bitter, I just have a weird obsession with justice and correcting double standards. I mentioned that the woman is viewed as "the epitome of all that's wrong in this world and every man's nightmare" so i assumed you agreed with that part cause you replied with "they're not wrong". If not, then my bad, but you should be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:38 AM
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Yes, that's right. Thank you. It is a double standard and it makes no logical sense whatsoever that the same behaviour is seen completely different in men and women. I can understand however that men care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:32 AM
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I know you didn’t. But I implied it and you agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:24 AM
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I didn’t ask if they care or not, I asked why is promiscuity good for men but very bad for women, when the effects on relationships are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:23 AM
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only that it feels incredibly shitty to be chosen by a woman later in life who would have never chosen you before, primarily due to your lack of looks. Don't have much time to debate, but i do want to touch on this topic. Yeah, she probably wouldn't have picked some guy cause he wasn't as attractive then. But similarly, men also wouldn't pick the same woman if she was older cause she's not as attractive then. He's more attracted to her when she's young and more attractive. Same exact thing and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:18 AM
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Why is the same exact behaviour the best thing for men but the absolute worst for women? Studies show that promiscuity affects both genders the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:41 AM
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I made a comment about how essentially (some) men think a woman who does AF/BB is an evil bitch and you responded with "and they probably wouldn't be wrong". But when a man does AF/BB then it's "who are you to judge? there's nothing wrong or right about this". Do you see it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:27 AM
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one is wrong and the other is right? No, I was saying this to make you understand that women value the ones they end with MORE, so men should just calm their tits about being settled for, cause if she chose you in the end, then you're likely the best she's got. men who didn’t get to have fun casually dating around don’t want women who have. get over it. That's completely understandable. I wasn't talking about this. I was talking about how a man's experience dictates if he'll see a woman as an ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:23 AM
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So being first is disturbing to them No 🤦‍♀️. That's not what I said. I said being the last one is more valuable not that being the first is disturbing. Dubious if the man isn't like smthe men she was with before I can agree with this, but we also have to consider that people learn and change, so it's case by case. Men here say all the time that they want to bang as many hot women as possible then settle down with the nice average girl next door. Do you extend your judgement to these men as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:08 AM
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These are a lot of assumptions. Would say the same for alpha dudes expressly choosing inexperienced women? That they want to manipulate them? I understand that men value being first the most, but for women it's the other way around: they value being the last and final one and they value the man they end up with the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:17 AM
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He responded with "and would they be wrong though" to my previous comment where I implied that (some) men think women like that are evil bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:01 AM
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Yeah, it would be wrong. Just because a man doesn't ’t have the same experience as a woman doesn't mean the woman is now an evil bitch. But she's not an evil bitch if her spouse also has had the same experience. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:27 AM
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I agree and I don't understand why people in the comments are being so black and white about it. "Men want feminine women" "Women want masculine men" Of course they do, but only the exterior body and the moderate positive traits, but definitely not the negative ones which most of the time are just the positive ones only more extreme, plus a dash of opposite-gender traits so they relate better and have more things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:18 AM
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Yeah, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:30 AM
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If a woman made this comment, the men here would be screaming AF/BB, poor man is being settled for, and how you're the epitome of what's wrong in the world and every man's nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:34 AM
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What about AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:19 PM
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The problem is when you take it to the absolute extremes for men while keeping it very uniform for women. There a few men AND WOMEN who definitely skew the numbers up. Most men and women have a more realistic scenario of a few hookups in their entire lifetime, not per year. And a couple of long term relationships. most inches are men Yeah, because as shown again and again, women can still be happy if single, men don't have a good support system, they perceive their value is related to being sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:15 AM
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Oh, so you're not gonna say it? Fine, i'll say it for you: you believe that the 8.1 average comes from a handfull of men who have like hundreds of hookups, while the vast majority of men have gotten 0. At the same time, the same reasoning doesn't apply to women because... umm reasons. No, for women, every single woman has had 8 hookups. The same stat, but now most men still never have any sex while most women are sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:29 AM
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Just say what you mean to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:11 AM
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Your source also states that men have a similar if not slightly higher n-count. Are you gonna go ahead and bend these numbers for men so that most men remain sexless, while believing they're completely true for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:44 AM
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disrespecting nature Lol, related to this, whenever we go on a hike, my husband will NOT STOP fucking with the course of streams, riping old trees apart, throwing boulders off cliffs, creating bridges etc. Me and the girls are always like "common, just leave nature alone"!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:49 AM
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Then why kill yourself as well? It's clearly a severe mental breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:46 AM
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Same. Have a nice day 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:36 PM
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I know nagging is common stereotype for women, and I generally believe stereotypes have a grain of truth to them, but for this one, I honestly don't see it at all in people I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:23 PM
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Damn right. I mean, we see this in this sub, men hate being given solutions by women, because they don't believe we know where the "nail" is at and they don't think the solutions work. No, wait, they actually think we're lying to them about the problem and the solution to keep them unhappy or something. So no, men don't want solutions, they want to first feel validated by *other dudes" and being given advice that suits their belief. The Black Pill offers no solution just eternal doom, yet there …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:23 PM
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Things like gossip, horoscopes, crystals, emotional manipulation are more common in women, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:11 PM
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Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:06 PM
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Once again and please read carefully: dark triad guys know how to mimick the personality desired by women. Women aren't into dark triad guys because they lie cheat and manipulate, but because they appear to be sweet caring competent men, which women want. They fall for the facade, similarly to how men fall for the stripper who faked attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:44 AM
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No. There aren't that many psychopats, dude, so most women won't fall for this "over and over again". And most women don't look over genuine good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:29 AM
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Women having sex with strangers is also endagering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:32 AM
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Nah. At least for women that's not the case. There's a 1/4 chance she's on her period, maybe she hasn't waxed, maybe her panties don't match, and many other tiny things which have NOTHING to do with how attractive she finds him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:58 AM
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Women like the type of personality that is faked by psychopats, not the lying and deceiving, so i don't understand why you guys keep pushing this. Btw, you never heard a psychopat fake being a drug dealer or abusing women. If you ever watched documentaries about women falling for manipulative dudes, they always portray the capable, confident, interesting and extremely sweet guy, who maybe has a hero act going on, like he's attacked by bad guys cause he's doing something good. But he is always sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:47 AM
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This is a great comment, i actually have nothing to add. OP even mentions in a comment that a soulmate is someone who gives you equal or better sexual treatment than previous partners, nothing about feelings, respect, care, interest, connection, compatibility. He doesn't mention his emotions anywhere either, so he's up for a tough ride...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:23 AM
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There was also a post giving advice to men to gain experience by faking interest for single moms cause they have lower standards, using them for sex and then ghosting them, rinse repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:46 PM
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I agree with this, but it doesn't change the fact that most women don't seek sex for that reward. The reward for women is connection, which they value much more than orgasms and which they get in higher quantities from other places as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:37 PM
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I know this is true, but it really contradicts the fact that, overall, women don't view sex as a necessity the way men do. Most women can go without sex indefinitely without issues, while the same isn't true for most men. For example, if my husband is away I don't even feel the need to have sex, but for him, it's like there's a daily constant reminder, no matter if it's a stressfull day, if we have people over, if we fought that day etc. So, I think the previous commenter was right in that most …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:52 PM
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This would be more proof that most men settle
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 09:05 PM
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As someone who escaped religion, you have no idea how much i appreciate this comment. Also "sexual communism" is a freaking genius term.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:57 PM
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Would you agree that women also have the right to cheat if the man drops the effort he initially put into the dating phase and finally relaxes cause he has a girlfriend? He did change drastically after all...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:53 AM
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Honestly I'd be afraid of him. He's dying and he only thinks of having sex with a couple of women; he doesn't seem like a down to earth stable man. A man this close to death and desperate doesn't have anything to loose. So not only will I not have sex with him, but I will only try to help from a distance (food service, phone calls etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:47 PM
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In a video I can see the guy's body language, facial expressions and interactions, it provides more info about the person so it's very different than a picture. This context can make a guy look more or less attractive. For instance, I was never attracted to the Loki character, but i found that the actor himself is very charismatic, damn right charming in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:40 PM
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I am mid 30s. Just to be clear, I am not saying it doesn't happen, I am saying that it's more common for most women to need context rather than not. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:07 PM
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I disagree. I and most women I talked about this with absolutely require context to get horny. I've never felt even a bit aroused by a picture of a hot dude. Also the trope with the man becoming instantly magnitutude times sexier when he does the dishes is 100% true for me. That's why sexy calendars for women are of hot men doing stuff: putting out a fire, chopping wood, holding kittens etc. These provide context. Sexy calendars for men are just sexy women in sexy positions and that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:47 AM
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Because actions speak louder than words Dude, what actions? The actions of few insta girls, whom you guys believe to represent the life and reality of all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:52 PM
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Yeah, i would. Would be weird if he asked for it though, cause he already knows me and my entire life. We've known each other since we were 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:01 PM
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Interesting. So a woman who wants to have equal say in things means she's ordering him around, but a man who wants to always have the final word in everything only means he is a kind responsible man who cares and knows what's best for both. You guys crack me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:04 PM
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I never had an object of desire. I don't imagine anything or anyone, I don't need stimuli, I just focus on the sensations. It's more about feelings and sensations, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:52 PM
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What about in a conversation about biology/anatomy? Teachers and professors teach others about penises and vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:28 AM
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?? Women are also spending money and providing for the relationship, also having kids and putting their lives in danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:16 AM
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Wait, so if you meet her when she's 22 and women face a wall at 30, are you actually saying that 8 years of "youth and beauty" are equal to decades of "providing"? I should "charge" my husband more then. Insane belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:37 AM
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But marriage has been around for millenia. Even tribes have ceremonies where they bond the wife and the husband as a couple in front of the entire village, and it’s not faith-based. This ceremony creates a sense of social legitimacy and responsibility between the partners, plus if others attempt courting them they're gonna face social stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:28 AM
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I don't understand why this keeps being said because it was shown again and again that women will end up financially worse than before the divorce while men remain financially similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:16 AM
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But it only matters what deal YOU got and if you like it or not, not what other men got. I really don't understand this. Is this another competition between men: who gets a better deal? Do you not understand that people are different? I would not be mad one bit if my partner once treated someone in his past with a trip somewhere on the first date. In fact, i'd be glad be learned something and made good decisions for himself. Because I also care about HIM, not only about me in comparison to someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:06 PM
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Then find out how many minutes in did the sex happen and calculate how much time you have left before you decide if she's "witholding".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:12 AM
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I don't understand why would men decide how they are treated based on what other men experienced. Can't you decide for yourself? If you like the relationship and how things are going, then you stay. If you don't like how things are going then you leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:00 AM
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Children are taken care of and a lot of them are not respected, they're hit, pushed around, screamed at etc. A lot of people would never treat strangers the same way they treat their kids. Animals in farms are taken care of and then they're slaughtered. So taking care of someone doesn't automatically imply that you respect them. Even loving someone isn't the same as respecting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:15 AM
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I don't see the contradiction. If women were respected and appreciated for their role, they would have preferred to remain in those roles. Instead, women were disrespected, taken advantage of, not being taken seriously, and basically considered second class citizens. Just look at the comment below that said that "being taken care of isn't respectable". That's what i'm talking about. Why would women want to remain in a difficult role where they surrender all dreams in order to serve her husband a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:53 AM
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Nah, I think it means that women realised that feminine roles have never been respected, so now they're trying to prove that they can do everything men do and thus they deserve respect and aknowledgement. And it works. A girl boss gets tons more respect than a stay at home mother. If women were actually respected and appreciated for their feminine role, I think way more women would embrace their femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:00 PM
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Yeah, that's messed up. Wtf is wrong with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:21 AM
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My husband is 5'7 and his height was never a topic of discussion or an insecurity in his entire life. I was very surprised when I learned it was considered a "death sentence" online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:27 AM
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Yes, exactly. I don't know how many times this has to be said. That OkCupid study + projecting male sexuality onto women = misinterpreting that women are only attracted to the same small subset of very handsome men and then inventing explanations for the fact that the vast majority of women are actually not married or in relationships with Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:59 PM
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So your answer is yes? Women should manipulate and deceive lonely "low value" men into thinking they'll sleep with them, in order to use them for financial benefits like get dinner dates, gifts, trips etc? Then ditch them once they can't keep the act anymore and go for the next victim? It's the morally righteous thing, according to you, cause it keeps "low value" men away from ruining relationships for good women. Answer the question. Btw, OF and strip clubs don't count because men know it's an …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:07 PM
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Wow, I see you're doubling down on the unhingeness. Ok, in this case I can only assume that you're also ok with women using shy virgin anxious men for their money. These men are "bottom of barrel" anyway, so any woman who lies to them and deceives them into taking them on dates and buying them gifts, then blocking them, is only doing a FAVOR to all other women out there, keeping these low value men away from relationships and bad sex. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:27 AM
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This is so low and not "morally righteous" at all. Choosing a sex worker is the most morally righteous option for quick sex, not lying, deceiving and hurting women who are in a vulnerable position. The way you talk about mothers is also sickening, so I can only hope that this is rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:34 AM
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I think hobbies do say something about who the person is. Volunteering at an animal shelter vs hunting are hobbies that say different things about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:33 AM
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Listen, I don't disagree with you. Of course it's better when people are 100% their genuine self, the relationship will be pure and authentic. I just think that many people would miss out at finding each other, because showing their true self might come on too strong right in the begining. Like, if someone learned from day one that some guy is into video games, it might put them off and never even entertain a first date. But if they learn about the video games after finding more about the contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:07 AM
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You're consistent, i'll give you that. The reason why people "fake it" is because they want to attract better partners and they hope that letting their true selves be seen little by little won't scare them away, or perhaps they'd even like them more. And you know what, it actually works, as long as we're not talking about a complete opposite change. Makeup is not a 180 change unless you somehow stumbled upon someone who's ugly and highly skilled. Also, i don't think your advice to "be your compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:44 PM
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Yes, but so do men, that's what i'm saying. We all go on dates pretending to naturally be the best (or even a different) version of ourselves. Men fake confidence and charisma, they try everything to seduce the woman, they actively listen and act interested. And women wear makeup, the best clothes, they act more seductive and feminine. The act is up after the relationship has formed and they both get comfortable being themselves. The men don't seduce the women anymore and the women don't act sed…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:14 AM
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Men here have complained about being given the advice "Just be yourself" because in actuality it means "Be yourself!... so I can reject you if I don't know your true self". It's the same with makeup "Don't wear makeup!.... so I can use you for sex only, if i don't like you enough". It's definitely best to be yourself in and out, but everyone wants to attract the best mate possible and hope that they will stick around because of our other qualities even if we slightly faked our way in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:57 AM
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Lol, my husband also complains that i use sunscreen every day and put on serums and shit. But who's gonna love it in 20 years when my skin's gonna look waay better then those who didn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:52 AM
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But cooking and cleaning are skills that one learns, they don't require fine motor skills or anything really that's related to X or Y chromosome. I would agree that women have higher standards for cleanliness but lots of men here agreed that it's annoying and useless, so again, there's nothing genetic that makes women more adapted to cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:54 PM
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I love this! This is a fluid dynamic relationship at work and it’s just natural, it flows based on each other's strenghts and free time. Beautiful. I wish you the best. Some people get cought up in the details that they can't see the forest for the trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:42 PM
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It's cause the man is stronger, duh and you know it. If something requires more strenght then I ask my husband, but if something needs a more detailed fine touch, or grabbing something from a narrow space, or even writing something beautiful on a card, i'm the one who gets called. Let's value each other for the unique things we provide to the relationship, people!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:31 PM
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Yeah, I actually hate it when guys say "He's a Chad, so obviously he's gonna be abusive and use you for sex". It takes just one braincell to figure out that this implies that any man who has options is gonna want to treat women like crap. And that unattractive men only settle for relationships and are nice because they can't use women like Chad does. I wish men would realise how misandrist this thinking is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:37 PM
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I wish this was true. I feel like it is true for the guys I know, but the internet will have you believe the complete opposite. This sub is filled with men who say both that they are afraid of being friendzoned and that the woman they like is a slut (which they believe most women are anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:25 AM
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Lmao the middle part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:14 AM
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I get it. But perhaps women in general shouldn't say that being treated well is uncomfortable and boring, when they actually refer to being treated with over the top painful and cringey niceness. Let's use accurate words cause this is the exact thing that makes dudes think women like being abused. "Oh, women don't like to be treated well? They like asshole abuser jerks who hit and direspect them, I knew it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 09:10 AM
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In my opinion, being treated well is different than being treated like a helpless spoiled princess. Being treated well to me means being respected, appreciated, listened to, loved, etc. Being treated as a helpless spoiled princess is definitely way too nice, it feels dehumanizing and it’s a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:22 AM
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OP didn’t ask for an open relationship, he only informed her that he is gonna have sex with other women (and this apparently doesn't count as cheating, because he was upfront about it). But yes, the wife can now decide to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:07 AM
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This makes no sense. Leaving is the solution when the relationship criteria isn't met anymore, and it’s what what OP should do BEFORE actually cheating on his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:42 PM
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You can't be this disconnected from reality. I once had a dream that my husband told me he cheated on me, that it was an accident and I have never felt such an emotional pain in my entire life. I woke up crying in panic and I couldn't look at him the whole day. That's when I knew for sure that if he ever cheated on me (informing me in advance or not), the relationship would be over. I would simply not be able to love him anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:34 PM
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I appreciate your input. I think the RP has been contamined by black pillers, cause I feel like in the original RP there wasn't so much complaining, doom thinking and shitting on women. It felt more proactive and inspirational.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:14 PM
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I cringed so hard at that line. I hate it and I will never understand women who feel "bored and uncomfortable" when being treated well. These have to be some truly spoiled women, cause wtf...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 08:14 PM
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I think this is a good explanation from an RP perspective, but damn why does everybody have to fit into a prescribed box? Women: wife or slut Men: loser / married loser / alpha plate spinner
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:42 PM
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Red pill people don't do this. It's like a religious dogma Says the guy who just went out of way to "prove" and enforce the red pill dogma of "being bald is a death sentece" to normal people by bullying them with mean comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:10 PM
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I hope you realise the irony here. Your own belief was being questioned when people weren't "disgusted" by a balding man and this triggered you so you had to be mean and re-enforce your belief on others. You did the exact same thing you accuse in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:55 PM
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Lol, I should have guessed. "I just made a kind remark on the fact that XYZ" when in reality "I argued with every single mf-er who didn’t agree with me. Why are people so mean when their beliefs are questioned?".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:46 AM
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I'm gonna say porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:07 PM
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When men ask "Are women even attracted to men?" they actually mean "are women attracted to men the way men are attracted to them? Specifically, just looking at them and wanting to fuck them? Do they even like our bodies too, not just how we make them feel? Do they even want to have sex without us jumping through hoops for them?". The reversal would ask: "do men even like women as people? Do they actually even about our dreams and aspirations, our achievements, do they value and love us for who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:56 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:59 AM
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It's not necessarily that the men faked their personality. The first 2 years after a baby is born are the hardest on relationships. The sleep deprevation, the exhaustion and lack of time to connect to one another leads A LOT of couples to break up. The kids end up with the mom and that's how you get most of the single moms. Men here like to imagine that most single moms are women who got pregnant by a Chad who wouldn't commit. In reality, it's couples who either got pregnant by accident or on pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:53 AM
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Horny instantly? Absolutely not. Women can see that someone is hot but experience zero attraction. Women need to also see that the man expresses the markers of a safe capable confident person as well. Do you realise what would happen if women just cared for looks? They could get pregnant and the guy could abandon her. Or worse, he could beat or even kill her. It's definitely not fool-proof, but it's just basic evolution psychology at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:32 AM
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Like i've already said too many times: it's because you judge female sexuality based on how men experience theirs. Looks alone doesn't do much for women, hence why it's rare when a woman's attention is captured by looks alone. If we add in other personal qualities, then we get that women are attracted to many more men. Also, if we were to judge men's sexuality based on how women experience it, we would get that men are only attracted to 0.5% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:17 PM
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This is so sweet. I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:45 PM
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Women didn't need a movement cause it was always ok for them to be single, but the 4B movement can be considered a gender reversed MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:21 AM
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There was also a guy who constantly complained that his girlfriend is fat and how unattractive she is to him. Haven't seen him recently though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:36 AM
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Solution is for women to stop looking at men as a status symbol It's the other way around, though. Women are ok being single if they don't find a man they like. It's men who think that their manhood is questioned or seen as losers if they're virgins or if they're not partnered. It's also men here who say that a man's value is directly tied with how sexually successful he is. So for a lot of men, having a woman is an instant status boost and the solution is for men to also be ok being single unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:59 AM
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Outstanding comment. Please make it a post and educate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:00 PM
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Gay men also have highest cheating rates of any type of relationship. Cheating is one of the main reasons for divorce, so if for gay men cheating isn't a deal breaker (they're more inclined to prefer open relationships), then divorce rates are gonna be lower. Also, it's known that men are more likely to stay in shit relationships. Lower divorce rates doesn't necessarily mean they're also happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:52 PM
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Love this and for any normal person it's a no-brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:32 AM
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No, I actually agree, I don't know why I didn’t think of this first. Yes, men would absolutely filter based on weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:03 AM
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Agreed. This is ridiculous and frankly just makes me think OP is trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:05 PM
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For real. What is this even?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:01 PM
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Are these supposed to be examples of how hard women have it? Girl, please, this is embarassing. This is nothing, and I mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:59 PM
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Yes. It is compartmentalized. Hopefully this is your mental disorder talking, because it's very dangerous to think like this. It makes you vulnerable to abuse, imo. I am only my body. I am not my actions nor my commitment. Ok, so now I see where the difference lies. I couldn't disagree more with this. You are everything about you, but ESPECIALLY your thoughts, your actions, your beliefs. The body was assigned to you at random, just like your birthplace, it doesn't do anything by it's own. In my …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:09 PM
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Overall pretty reasonable. But: Maybe that woman is a good mother and the alternative was a horrible mother even if she made him feel loved. I don't get this at all. How can a man feel loved if she's a horrible mother to his kids? "You just beat the shit out our kids, but i, myself, feel so loved by you". Are things this compartimentalised for you? the best way to know if you are valued is if the woman in question wants to have sex with you when you don't bring anything to the table. Sure, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:43 PM
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The app is built so that it prioritizes looks. And based just off of looks alone, very few men will be selected. In the real world, men can showcase all their strenghts which increase their attractiveness, because female sexuality searches for many things that cumulate to a high overal score, but in the app it's just about how you look. Women are gonna very picky because that overall score is gonna have to come from looks alone. For men this is on paar with how they operate IRL anyway. I don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:41 AM
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They do come in different shapes and sizes, but that has to be a very small, super soft and rounded fleshlight for it to fit inside and not hurt during sex. Almost like a hallow vibrator. Is there such a fleshlight?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:34 AM
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I don't know why those women do this. I have never been on apps (and my husband is 5'7), but I think they're trying to make their decision easier. While IRL height won't be a deal breaker, in an app the amount of options can become overwhelming, so you need a way to simplify things. Taller is generally better, so they choose this. Not saying it isn't shitty though. I'm 100% sure that if men had hundreds of options from dating apps, they too would filter based on "boob size" if they could, even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:42 AM
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That's cause dating apps force women to only evaluate men based on appearance - a standard which in real life isn't nearly as rigid because we get to see men as individuals. Women can't evaluate your social skills based off a few photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:29 AM
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Some people are idiots indeed, that's why I took it upon myself to point out those things which are related to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:24 AM
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Nah. Some men here believe that all that matters is how the man looks, that a shy autistic guy who's tall and masculine will get tons of women compared to an average guy no matter how socially skilled he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:51 AM
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Social skills outweight physical attractiveness Height plays a small role in romantic opportunities Well well well... if it isn't what all women said, since forever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:26 AM
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The casual sex must have provided a lot of value to him if he kept remembering and wanting it, year after year, even if he's married. If a married woman did this, you would not brush this off so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:19 AM
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Oh my god, I think I just died from cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:13 AM
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Spot on. "But it's ok when men do it, because men are still gonna be attracted to their wife. Women aren't because umm... pAiR-bOnDiNg and stuff".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:01 AM
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What? You have been on this sub, right? A lot of the men here FEAR the husband role and they value the hookup "role" much more. They think women only get married to the suckers, and value the flings, so they don't think being a husband is a valued role. So, which is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:57 AM
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It's not a deflection strategy. I genuinely don't understand how a woman who makes him unhappy, unloved and not desired could be valued "more" than the other. Let's say equal levels of happiness and feeling desired. I believes he values the wife more, cause he married her and that's the highest form of expressing your appreciation. The men in my life have certainly done this. But if were to believe the men here (and even your description which sounds more lively in the first scenario), i'd say S…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:36 AM
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Right, i understand the advantages, but eventually these men will get to have an "old, sagy, past her prime" woman, so perhaps shitting on older women isn't a good strategy. What are women gonna do anyway? Stop ageing? Drop everything and marry at 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:57 PM
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Also the font size difference 😆 Sarah Wife
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:48 PM
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Isn't he gonna value the woman who made him happier more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:43 PM
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You haven't provided any info about how happy he is/was, or how desired, loved and appreciated he felt in each situation. That's the only metric we need to answer this question. But to be cheeky, if I were to believe what a lot of guys here say, I would say he valued Sara more, because she only desired him sexually (which apparently is proof of "real and true attraction"), while his wife gets marriage benefits so "you never know if she's actually attracted to you or the money".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:56 PM
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Exactly. You would think the men who proudly state that they don't want "an old saggy, past her prime bitter woman" would know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:37 PM
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Well then they're not doing such a good job cause I see comments like that on every post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 07:30 PM
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I am also amused by the men who say "sex is also an emotional connection to men, it's straightens the bond, it's special and it expresses love", then go straight to "well, if you're not having sex, then don't blame us if we go fuck the first willing woman we see". So special and emotional, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:46 AM
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Yeah dude. In each circumstance where a woman doesn't want to have sex, but is forced to do so against her will and consent, that encounter would be rape. She would be raped by her husband, and the state would be allowing and encouraging it. I don't understand why is this difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:39 AM
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If that's misandry, then almost every comment from the men here is filled to the brim with misogyny. Incredible how blind people in general are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:57 AM
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Wait, you think people use the term "toxic masculinity" to say "masculinity is toxic"? Cause no. If I say "this is a blue car", I don't mean "all cars are blue".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:31 PM
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Of course there is, just how toxic femininity exists but unfortunately isn't talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:25 PM
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It doesn't say anywhere that women commit 99%, it doesn't say anything about the gender of the perpetrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:45 PM
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Now this is just embarassing, wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:59 AM
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Expensive as compared to what? A woman that can cook would save that household potentially thousands of dollars a month with that skill alone Compared to a double income household, where they both cook together or in turns and actually have money to pay for healthy stuff in a more realistic and achievable way. In a trad wife scenario, the man will have to bring in A LOT of cash if he wants to support the entire family and have the woman cook healthy and balanced meals. Oh and he should also not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:55 AM
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What do you care if it's not hurting anyone OP? In my opinion its a small subset anyway. You know what's horrifying? All of these 40-50 year old whores my age. Why do you care, it's not hurting anyone and they're a very small subset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:39 AM
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I personally don't think "kill all men" is sarcasm because it doesn't seem to be said as a catch. I know they don't go out killing men, but I don't make excuses for the unhinged deeply disturbed women saying it. It's an absolutely abhorrent slogan and I am deeply dissapointed that women who have been pushed by the side for millenia came up with this stupid brainless saying. The reproductive rights thing is also not sarcasm, because it's also not said as a catch or to be funny or edgy and because…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:20 AM
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Is it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:58 PM
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Yup. Meanwhile, there are tons of men on Reddit freely saying that women should not have reproduction rights, without sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:45 PM
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I feel like the "male sluts with sleep with anyone, just zero standard, ANYONE" is more insulting, than "picky female slut".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:39 PM
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From what i've seen, the men who care the most about n-counts are by large inexperienced and late-bloomer men. And I think it's fair for them to want someone with a similar (in)experience, although i am not a fan of the slut shaming they engage in. They also seem to have paranoia that every woman has slept with 30+ guys with big dicks. Men who have been around, had girlfriends and perhaps a few hookups, are mostly actually super chill about n-counts. The only thing that's different is that the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 08:36 PM
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No worries. I do need to warn you that this sub is the worst... But welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:26 PM
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I agree again. Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:15 PM
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But why do you assume that they're dating to hookup? Most people date for long term. Or they could already be in a relationship on a date night.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:14 PM
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A surprisingly pertinent comment comming from an RP guy, I agree, though I must make these notes: BOTH men and women who have only been hooking up for a decade will have trouble adjusting to a monogamous relationship, not just women. most women aren't into hooking up; the vast majority of women (and men) have a couple of LTRs and perhaps a hookup or two, so people are actually hiperfocusing on rare scenarios thinking they're the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:30 PM
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Women may be responding to DT men’s ability to ‘sell themselves’; a useful tactic in a co-evolutionary ‘arms race’ in which men convince women to pursue the former’s preferred sexual strategy. This ability may derive from a ‘used-car dealer’ ability to charm and manipulate, and DT-associated traits such as assertiveness. DT men are master manipulators, portraying themselves as charming interesting confident men. They use the love bombing method, display assertiveness, and fake any emotion they n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:53 AM
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OP thinks he's a great option himself, but the way he talks about women, like they're objects to be used, proves a completely different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:24 AM
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If you can easily get a date but struggle finding a good partner, then you are describing women's experience. Perhaps there's lots of women just like you who roll their eyes at the guys who ask "where are all the good women?" cause they believe they'd be great partners, just you believe this about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:53 AM
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Yes, we are the sum of our experiences and every thing that happens to us is another piece of the puzzle we're trying to solve. Seems you at least had great parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:30 PM
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Can you elaborate, pls?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:38 PM
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Oh i see, agreed, I now realise it could be interpreted differently than i intended. I meant it more like "she's actually interested in dating him". So, if there's a woman who displays actual genuine interest, would she still receive resentment and be held accountable for what how other women acted?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:45 PM
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😂😂 perfection! I remember this guy's book.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:04 PM
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But why would you assume that right from the start?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:18 PM
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I'm sorry you feel this way and I hope you find the love that heals you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:08 PM
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I haven't seen his post-release photos, but yes, that's what i'm talking about. There are a lot of things that affect attractiveness, not just facial structure. It's the fashion, the vibe, the movements, the micro expressions, body language etc. An identical body+face with a completely different vibe and personality would get a completely different result in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:22 AM
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I wouldn't be so harsh to describe Tate's face, i try very hard to be objective cause i truly despise him, but if I were to picture him with a less assholish fashion style and a charming, fun, non-superior and easy going personality, I can see a massive difference in perceived attractiveness. Similarly, if Henry Cavil wasn't such a sweetheart and was instead a bully who puts people down all the time, I would bet everything I have that people wouldn't be all over him as much as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:01 AM
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He's obviously objectively attractive, but he's also the sweetest charming guy. It's these two together that make him top notch. Andrew Tate is objectively attractive too, but he's worse than shit as a person, so I don't find him attractive AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:32 AM
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Why do you guys always assume it's the same x% of men for all women? It's different men. It's even a trope that women don't find each others' boyfriends attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:20 AM
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What kind of job do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:08 AM
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But why would you hold the woman who gave you a chance accountable for what other women did?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:31 AM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:28 AM
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Agreed. I don't understand some men's obsession with needing to view all people in terms of a hierarchy, even romantic partners. "A mediocre women rejected an above average man. The bitch thinks she's better than him." Dude, no. People can find someone incompatible or just not want a relationship even he/she is "better" than them, according to your specific scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:58 AM
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Really? Cause I was preparing for an army of angry RP men saying anything from "but you're a Chad, that's why" and "but the woman got to ride the cock carousel in her youth which is all that counts" and "you're fooling yourself, they'd only be after your money". I personally think OP is pretty much on point with the exception that i believe most of the attention women get, no matter the age, is for sex. No matter the age, women still have to sift through the same stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:33 PM
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They are objectively weak, of course, such as women are weaker. What I am inviting you to do is be empathetic towards how they feel in situations where being weaker means you don't feel safe so you're scared. Not ridicule them by calling them weaklings who can't fight like the big strong man that you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:07 AM
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I tick all of them except the body count one, because I have only wanted to be with my husband. Idk about socially privileged, but I am an easy to like person, I like starting off conversations with people and I actually listen and enjoy them. I actually never had a person dislike me (that I know of) and I also can't think of many people who I personally know that I dislike. Most people have at least something good or interesting about them, you just need to have the patience for them to open up…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:59 PM
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Leaving because your needs weren't met and you weren't happy - totally reasonable Waiting until your spouse gets cancer to leave them - total asshole move which should be judged harshly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:39 AM
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If a child were to be aproached by a homeless guy while walking the family dog, would you call that child a "weakling" because they didn’t get ready to fight the guy? Or would you feel empathy and understanding for they way they felt?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:26 AM
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Come on, dude. Multiple people have proved you are wrong in your understanding of empathy. Look up the definition yourself and stop being ridiculous. Empathy is the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes and imagine what they're feeling. Most people can totally do that even if they haven't experienced the same situation themselves. If you can't, then you don't have empathy. Also, your original commment doesn't display empathy at all because you cannot put yourself in OP's shoes, to imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:57 AM
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But why? Doing this would wrongly result in people of both genders believing they have almost no chance of being attractive to somebody. It's like judging a lion's apetite based on how much grass he eats and a gazelle's apetite based on how much she likes raw meat. Do you think it's not valid for a woman to find you incredibly hot because you cooked a mean pot roast for her on Sunday or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:41 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:04 PM
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It's not fair in my opinion to force women to evaluate their own attraction within the lense of male sexuality and call that "real attraction". How women experience it is real to them, similar to how you being attracted to just a body is real to you. If I were to ask you: are you attracted to women? But like actually attracted, not just to how they look, but who they really are, to their personality and character, to how they make you feel? Within this definition of attraction (based on how wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:03 PM
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Yeah, acknowledging a guy is attractive looking and actually being attracted to him are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:49 PM
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OP, I am begging you to stop writing each phrase on a new line. It's wrong, hard to read and quite frankly infuriating. Only a new argument/idea/change of tone goes on a new line. You surely learned this in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:39 PM
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what goes on in your minds to make this mysterious transition, from being repelled by a man's flesh, to suddenly going crazy for it You can't go from repelled to attracted, only from neutral to repelled or neutral to attracted. And it’s not the money itself, it's the fact that the man appears resourceful, competent, inteligent, disciplined. A young man who displays these traits is surely gonna appear more attractive, even if he doesn't have money yet. Speaking for myself only (but i'm sure a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:25 PM
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"I have nice legs and I like to show them". Them, the legs. Show them to myself and the people around me, the same way women show off their pretty long hair. Idk what's hard to understand here...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:23 AM
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I can't believe people still believe that an absent hymen means a non-virgin women in 2024. I married as a virgin and I didn’t bleed any hymen. I played lots of sports and wore tampons as well, but I still didn’t have a "hymen just broke" moment. When talking to my girl-friends, neighter did any of them. Then I found out that in cultures where the hymen is a necessary proof of virginity to be shown to the man's family, there are specially trained women on stand-by who come in and further de-virg…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:42 AM
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I think the commenter referred to "enforced gender roles". Red pill is deep into believing that men can only be happy if they're a manly man's man, because only then can they get a great woman. The definition of a great woman according to them is a young, submissive, virgin, homemaker and babymaker who follows his every whim and even goes as far as allowing him to cheat on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:12 AM
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Great comment, especially this part: Forcing myself to be a dominant leader, pretending to be stoic and holding frame as I am losing my mind and suffering beneath surface. Inevitably a man trying hard to keep up with an invented persona is gonna inevitably also start to resent the woman he's with (or all women), because he "can't be himself around her". Just bad all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:35 AM
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Women have way more opportunities but still don't cheat as much as men who have way fewer opportunities. Gay men cheat much much more compared to lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:50 PM
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Yes, there are exceptions everywhere, but the vast majority of older people are more mature than a 16 yo. Are you really denying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:20 PM
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Yes, exactly. Your own point would prove that aging provides people with life experience causing them to mature. So aging DOES in fact add maturity. A very very small percentage of people mature by forced life experiences at 16. And in those cases, you'd probably also get trauma as a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 PM
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Dude, please. Aging has absolutely I repeat absolutely nothing to do with maturity The truth is most people don’t mature until life circumstances force them to There is an undeniable truth that aging is what provides MOST of life's circumstances for the vast VAST majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:35 PM
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Nah, some things are important to prove for yourself, even if your spouse finds you perfect and acts accordingly. Not everything is directly corelated to mating. For instance my husband will not chill the fuck out with "achieving his greatest potential", even though he knows i find him more than enough already. This has nothing to do with me. It's what he needs to prove to himself that he's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:24 AM
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I don't think it's purely about intention. Some women just have very curvy luscious bodies and will be accused of dressing slutty no matter what they wear. I am on the opposite side. I am skinny and athletic with barely any boobs and with a girl next door vibe. I frankly don't think it's even possible for me to look slutty; I would just look ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 06:22 PM
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Show them because it's aestheticaly pleasing and I like pretty things. It's the same reason people decorate their home or plant flowers in their garden. It just looks nice, for me, and idk for other people too i guess. Btw, a woman can show legs and not look vulgar at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 05:55 PM
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I don't know what those women are thinking because in my view dressing slutty equates to looking cheap, not elevated. My comment began with "I don't dress provocatively".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:41 PM
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I don't dress provocatively, but I like to dress aesthetically pleasing. I have nice legs so I show them sometimes. I have nice shoulders, so an off-shoulder blouse looks nice on me. I don't do it for the guys, cause i've been happily married since I was 22 and i don't notice other men sexually at all. If I had to really examine myself, I probably do it for status elevation, which makes me feel good about myself. I also dress nice when i'm alone, so idk what's that about, maybe it's the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:10 AM
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It's one of those "Look at what they do, not what they say" situations because you are gravely mistaken that men don't uphold beauty standards for women. Men bend over backwards for hot women and everyone knows it. They say they don't care about makeup or fashion, or the other small little things women do, but fall for it everytime. I agree about the piercings and tatoos though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:34 AM
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But there is a deal. The deal is men should also take care of the kids, of the chores, should accept that women also want jobs and careers and not act like he's the boss of the house. Apparently men don't like this deal, that's why they go to other countries. Edit: ooh, struck a nerve with this one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:24 AM
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This is the best comment I read on this sub. Briliant 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:19 AM
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Exactly. "And then find a good submissive low n-count homemaker who gives him children and live happily ever after". I've been saying this forever on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:08 AM
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Ok, fair enough. I don't get this sentiment from a lot of men on this sub though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:16 AM
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This is actually pretty spot on. I hope more men read your comment. You should make this into a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:22 AM
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I even heard it's the top 0.05%. Pretty soon there's just gonna be one guy, doing all the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:04 AM
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Comedians often do because they expose themselves to a lot of people by virtue of their profession, so more women get to know him. I also couldn't help but notice that most guys here only consider the men who "slay" to actually be sexually successful. So only a man who goes from woman to woman, who pumps and dumps and has plenty of casual sex is the male golden standard in this sub. The rest are considered to be unattractive because the poor fellas had to settle for a relationship (the horror 😱)…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:02 AM
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This again is one of those threads were most women say "pretty much never" and guys use it as proof to say "See? Women don't find men attractive! They only want the top 0.5%! It truly is over for average guys." Please understand that most women don't experience attraction like men do. You can grab a woman's attention with your incredible looks or you can grab her attention with something else, your humor, your charm, your skillfulness etc. The problem is that the later is not directly visible fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:39 PM
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Couldn't agree more. I have eyes, I can see if a guy looks hot, just like i notice a car is blue, but attraction only begins when I know what kind of person he is. And I believe there are biological reasons too. It would be dangerous for a woman's well-being to just go blindly after every hot guy, since most men can easily overpower women. She needs to evaluate if he will be good for her first and if he is, then the brain begins the attraction process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:22 PM
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It's used as an insult precisely because it works great as an insult for men. Women don't give 2 shits about this guy being a virgin, but I can bet he cares a lot (since he's part of the incel movement), so the insults "virgin" or "incel" are used to hurt him. However, I really wish people would stop with this. It's not cool at all and hurts innocent people as well. Being a virgin has nothing to do with moral values.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:12 PM
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You just had to trim then squeze what she said into your predefined belief system, didn’t you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:49 PM
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For real. "My husband wants to have sex with multiple women, he says it's what all men need to be happy, but I don't feel comfortable with this; how can I change and be ok with this?" This isn't even made up. I saw a post like this the very first time I entered that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:30 PM
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Ok now I think you're just trolling cause no way these are your examples. I was prepared to see "support men's issues; don't go about casually insulting men; don't automaticaly assume they're a predator etc" and those would have been perfectly reasonable. But you went right into "feed men's ego by acting like you're into them". Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 11:49 AM
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What's this? Reasonable nuanced takes on PPD? No, we don't that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:22 PM
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Honestly, a man who realizes his mistake, regrets it, owns it and learns from it, is definitely worthy of respect in my book. Also, don't beat yourself too much, cause most people also voted for Trump, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:38 PM
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No, I said it's hypocritical if a short woman only wants to date super tall guys, like a 4'9 woman and a 6'4 man. A woman prefering a taller partner and a man prefering a shorter partner is reasonable, but there's a point where it kind of becomes unreasonable and hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:28 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:53 PM
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There are certainly physical standards that make someone a hypocrit. I didn’t want to focus on those because men here just say "so it's hypocritical if a man wants a woman, even if he's not a woman himself???". There are reasonable dimorphic attributes we are attracted to, which are the exact opposite of who we are, but some people are unreasonable with them. For instance I do indeed think that short women only wanting to date super tall dudes is hypocritical. An ugly guy only wanting to date su…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:37 PM
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I specifically mentioned it was hypocritical if we're talking about "moral values". Being broke, short, black etc are not moral values. For example, if an atheist shamed atheist gals all the time and specifically looked only for religious girls to date, that would be hypocritical af. A woman who spends money like there's no tomorrow who shames men who do the same and only wants to date men who are fiscally responsible would be hypocritical af.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:25 PM
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Trying to understand the "secret" and "mysterious" female nature lead men to RP and they're absolutely not having happy and healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:16 PM
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If we're talking about moral values that they themselves don't posses, shame the other gender to the ground for also not having them, and request that their partners have them, then YES.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:32 PM
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So not only supporting but also consuming and being the number one reason porn exists 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:48 AM
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If the guy engaged in casual sex before or wanted to but couldn't, then not only would I not care at all, but the guy would give me an immediate ick. Like how hypocritical can you be?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:44 AM
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"Men who support pornography but have a problem with women engaging in porn, explain youselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:25 PM
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Asking the real questions. -- a similarly 1 n-count married woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:21 PM
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I'm European and I don't blame men for the election, I blame all of America, cause apparently y'all love Trump, or at least you didn’t think he was bad enough to actually go vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:52 PM
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I agree that people overlook the bad things their loved ones do. But I think you have to look at frequency. I know my husband since we were in 5th grade and I know he's never been into a fight and he never hit anyone. If he were to get into a fight and beat the shit out a guy, I think it's pretty reasonable to believe that he must've had a very good reason for it. But if this situation would repeat itself again, I would definitely raise a brow. So if a person happens to get into a lot of situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:38 PM
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Indeed, a good one example. But what's Trump gonna do about it? He doesn't look like the kind of fella to care about the poor, the unemployed, the depressed etc. Edit: very poorly chosen word from my side, my gosh...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:56 AM
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How were they losing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:28 AM
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Yeah, idk about these ChatGPT answers. AI is specificaly trained to be non-biased, fair and inclusive in every way, so you'll never find it agreeing to generalizations like "most men want casual sex" or "most women want X", "black people do Y".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:50 AM
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Damn... ok 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:42 AM
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Do you look down on the French?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:37 AM
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Ok? And the people OP is talking about are African.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:21 AM
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Yeah no. I am a petite very thin woman. I'd need very specific scenarios to happen so that I could successfuly defend myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:47 PM
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Idk, I am quite literally incapable of being atrracted to a violent man. I know men say here all the time that women like criminals and stuff, but for me it's total and complete shut down if a guy is violent towards innocent beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:31 PM
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Interesting, this was very eye opening. I think the main difference here is that men can easily overpower a woman and basically even kill her without much effort. Men, being much stronger, don't feel like their life could be in danger if the partner has anger problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:28 PM
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I literally cannot imagine a man that is perfect in every way except he hits me. It's like saying "imagine your ideal woman, she's perfecf in every way, except she's a worm".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:21 PM
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Yeah I guess it all boils down to what we imagine in these 2 scenarios. With cheating, i'm imagining him still loving me and being a great husband and father, but having sex with someone else on the side without me finding obvious evidence about it. With hitting, i'm imagining living in terror, wondering what stupid shit will trigger him, i'm imagining him slaping me, cursing me, pushing me, banging his fist on the table and esentially removing any shred of dignity and humanity i might have. Plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:13 PM
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I'd rather he cheats. Like, by far...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:30 PM
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Lmao, I play with all dogs. Similarly, I interact with other people, attractive or not, but I have a special kind of relationship only with my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:25 AM
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Wow, ok there's a lot to unpack here, but mainly you forget that people have feelings, they fall in love and form connections on a deep emotional level. It's like I constantly say: would you ditch your beloved dog if you saw a better looking dog who does more tricks? No, of course not. You can notice that other dogs might be better in some areas, cause you have eyes, but you love YOUR dog, you have a connection to it, with all it's weird little quirks and nothing can change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:53 AM
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Interesting. Well, i respect that you're consistent even though you're wrong to make such sweeping generalizations based on a few unhinged individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:03 AM
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What about that horrific case of Dominique Pelicot, who drugged his eldery wife over and over again over the span of 9 years and invited men to rape her while she was unconscious. The list of the men who raped her include: their neighbour a fireman a (male) nurse a civil servant a plumber a soldier a journalist married and single men young and old men Based on your logic, I guess this proves that all men are like that 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:45 AM
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Ok, but that was beside the point. I was agreeing with OP that in my experience, a lot of men said they wanted a modest, reserved, plane Jane, but actually were more interested in the fun outgoing girls, even the religious guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:59 AM
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Nah. This was years ago in an Eastern European country. Guys did approach a lot, especially because they had to be married first if they wanted to become a priest (in the Orthodox church). So their aim was so get married after finishing their studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:21 AM
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All the students of all genders were super friendly, I knew them personaly, we were all friends, so they didn’t give off any cold vibes. And anyway, if a guy finds modesty, chastity, shyness and zero-makeup the most attractive (as they all preached when reading from the bible), he would go all after those girls from the start, not only after trying his luck with the fun outgoing girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:12 PM
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Yeah. When I was in college and still a Christian, I was in a religious non profit org for students. The shy long-skirted gals were almost never asked first. They came after the more "worldly", outgoing, extroverted, bit-of-skin-showing girls, even though most of the guys there wanted to become priests and pastors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:35 PM
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Yeah, but why do you expect things to be equal? The most attractive valuable people will be the most desirable, this is just fact. Men also bend over backwards for the most attractive women, they worship them, they offer them instant commitment. Women know they will be treated according to how they look, so all women try to make themselves as beautiful as possible while also trying to make a nice life for themselves alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:09 AM
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This is very disturbing. You should seek help to fix this mentality. It's gross, wrong and it's hurting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:40 AM
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Why do you think that if you're a woman's first you are not at a the risk of her finding a better man later on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:37 AM
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Cause academic and career achievements help and affect other people and are a more rare occurrence. I don't see why the private sex life of anybody should be worthy of admiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:01 PM
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🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:40 PM
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The only thing I think is not great here is: he was a bit weird, the date felt more like an interview The sex part, idk, I would never have sex with a man on a first date and without hints of commitment, but I would understand that sex can be awkward and weird the first time around. Totally depends on whether he was just nervous or whether he was selfish and didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:26 PM
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Yes, I completely agree. Saves time for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:02 PM
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No. I can accept that many people are ok with being upfront on hookup apps, if the profile suggests "looking for a hookup". I'm just saying that these women aren't the majority, not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:57 PM
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A hookup app is absolutely NOT the reality now. A dating app can be used for hookups, sure, but it doesn't mean that all couples started off as a casual hookup. Most date first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:51 PM
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But now you seem to be talking about something different. Your post was: "women don't like it when I ask just for sex and they don't even offer alternatives", to which me and other people have said "of course they don't like it, here's how they feel and here are the alternatives". Now your reply seems to be about "why don't women want to have sex with me the same way I want to have sex with them?". And the answer to this is: some women don't do casual sex at all and for the ones who do, you gott…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:47 PM
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we complain about women using us for money Yes, precisely. It feels like they're using you for your money. The same reason you don't want sex with a prostitute is why women don't want to be propositioned "just for sex" by strangers. It feels like they want to use women for their bodies. I can't tell you why women feel this way, but it feels as if these men don't actually care about who these women are, they only care about what they can get, similarly to how a prostitute doesn't care about who y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:57 PM
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Yes, absolutely. But I think you can see why men don't exactly rush to say "sure girl, no judgement, here are your alternatives, go get that money". Also, men have been given alternatives, but you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:49 PM
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Yeah, I think that any person starting a convo with a stranger with "wanna bang?" is offensive. If it happens in a setting where it's expected (like a hooking up app), then it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:45 PM
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I am focusing on the idea. Read carefully: if a person of lower social standing wants something from a person of higher social standing, the former will be waaay less likely to get it if they shame the latter when they do give it. The higher social standing person might not be particularly affected by the shaming, but they will certainly NOT give it to the person who shamed them. And if the shaming becomes a regular thing from multiple people, the person of higher social standing might decide to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:31 PM
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Had me in the first two thirds, not gonna lie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:03 AM
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Wait... I didn’t know who you were talking about so I checked the conversation and I thought your original comment was "I have zero understanding of women". So now my comment appears as though i'm agreeing with OP 🤦‍♀️... gonna go edit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:53 AM
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A homeless shaming peoples in the streets have zero impact on how someone act. False. A homeless guy wants money from richer people. What strategy do you think will work better for him to get the money? Calling people selfish careless assholes, shaming and cursing them? Or 2. Treating them with respect and providing maybe some value to those people (like playing a guitar or doing a magic trick)? I think it's pretty obvious. What kid are you more likely to reward with a nice toy? The screaming en…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:44 AM
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Removal of every government assistance and everything else falls in place How is this going to fix things? men don't have social power therefore the only shaming that work on women comes from other women. Nah, it's primarily men who shame women who have casual sex. Just spend 1 day in this sub reading comments from men. I agree women do it too, but to a much smaller degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:44 AM
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But what solutions are there? Genuinely asking. Men want sex from most women. Women don't want that. Also men shame women who actually have sex freely. How can you possibly reconcile these positions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:13 AM
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I think this is better than having the wrong understanding of women. Edit: I misread the comment I replied to as "I have zero understanding of women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:08 AM
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Why are some of you women so horrified by the idea that a man would want to have sex with you? Because of the things we hear: - men say they will sleep with anybody, even if they think she's ugly, or a horrible person - men call women whores, sluts and easy for sleeping with men - some men think women are less than men, less capable, less intelligent etc, therefore less deserving of respect - men say they gain value from sleeping with women, and women loose value So we put two and two together a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:06 AM
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Ahhh yes pay $200 for a prostitute who doesn’t want you that you can’t form an actual relationship or connection with. But you said you wanted "just sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:43 AM
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women complain that men send the sexual text, but offer no alternative for men who want sex. It makes no sense for a guy to talk to you for an extended period of time and hide his intentions for the purpose of sleeping with you It's like saying "Men complain that women want money from them, but offer no solution for the women who only want a free date meal. It makes no sense to fake sexual interest". I think it's pretty obvious that the request itself is offensive. Anyway, the alternative is: go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:35 AM
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So nothing 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:18 AM
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And since women overwhelmingly sleep around more than men Gonna need a source for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:20 PM
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Going to a bar with your friends isn't remotely the same as flirting or attending orgies. Do you stop meeting your friends and grabbing drinks once you're in a relationship? The other 2 are pretty nuanced. What do you mean by "revealing clothes"? What do you consider "sexualized pics"? There's certainly a limit where it becomes unreasonable and disrespectful, but then we go back to the question of why would you enter a relationship with a woman whose entire behaviour reflects that she always act…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:56 AM
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Well, I think you need to explain yourself better, cause that’s absolutely how it comes off. Your examples are of a man exhibiting non-commited sexual behavior (flirting, sex parties, sex workers) and you equate that with a woman posting selfies, going to dinner with friends and wearing flatering clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:54 PM
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So you guys actually believe that women only live their lives for the sole purpose of getting male attention. Her lifestyle, her clothing, her friends, her trips - all so she can get laid. Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:45 PM
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This analogy only works if the woman was doing all said things in order to get laid, which most of time couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:38 PM
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I appreciate the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:05 AM
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Aspirational, yet men shame these women to the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:07 AM
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Oh, ok, I see. I guess my comment was influenced by the men here who said that a submissive woman is nice and agreeable, which obviously are not accurate descriptors of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:43 AM
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No, i'm saying men should use proper words or else it backfires on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:05 PM
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It's not really akin to getting your tubes tied (only in terms of final results). Vasectomies are much easier to do, only with local anesthetic and in the doctor's office. Tube ties require an operation room, it's a surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:38 PM
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It's very rare to find a situation where both partners are involved exactly the same amount or care about exactly the same. In my 14 years of marriage and another 7 years of relationship prior to it, I have never encountered such a situation, especially since most people are in relationships with a partner who complements them. It's always been pretty clear who gets the final say in basically all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:27 PM
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Right? I don't understand the whole "but who's gonna have the final say?" Whoever is involved or knows more about that particular situation, easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:22 PM
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Putting other men down to make yourself appear more alpha is beta behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:17 PM
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The final say is said by whomever is most prepared in that specific area or the one affected more by the decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:15 PM
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For real. "I want a submissive wife = I want her to trust me, appreciate me, be nice and not be bitchy". With this definition, everyone wants a submissive partner, submissive kids, friends, a submissive boss etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:09 PM
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Ok, but why is this called "female submissive behaviour/male lead", when it's in fact a pretty equal relationship based on mutual respect and decency where each partner assumes the responsabilities they're best at?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:01 PM
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Yeah, you go do that. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:28 PM
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Taking credit for other women's work is different than celebrating them. But I agree that many women also do this and like i said, it's cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 01:19 PM
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"The future is female" Yeah, that's super cringe. But celebrating accomplishments of other women, especially given the fact that women weren't allowed to do much is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:38 PM
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Absolutely, but then don't take credit for whatever great thing other men did. That was the point of the other commenter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:09 AM
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There was another thread here once about the same topic and most men were like "but it's true tho" alongside "don't shame male sexuality". Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:52 AM
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100%, all of it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:53 PM
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This is it! When a man is in a relationship, it's kinda like hanging out with a gay man, there's no ulterior motive from him, so you can just be your friendly self.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:50 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the reply and the way you've written it, in a very respectful manner. I wish you the best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:21 PM
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FYI, I am thin (18 BMI), in case you wanted to suggest that a 5'7 man can only get an overweight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:13 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:27 PM
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My husband is 5'7 and nobody ever said anything about his height. It's a non-subject. Where do y'all live at, I just don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 08:06 AM
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Are you seriously saying that men just can't help themselves but take advantage of a woman in no position to fight back, like it's the most natural thing in world? And you're blaming women for this? Like wow, dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:57 AM
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I was previously agreeing with the fact that it's less moral to judge based on innate things, but you really made think with your example. Most men would also reject disabled women. I think the answer is based more on what we consider to be reasonable, but it's pretty hard to define where we should draw the line. I think rejecting disability is pretty reasonable for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:31 AM
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I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the fact that red pill guys believe that a man being attractive means he'll just use and hurt women left and right, being an asshole to them. Yet, all of you want to become Chad. It's like you're saying that if a man has the same options that women do, they become the worst type of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:42 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken. I've been called a liar here numerous times even though i've always spoken my truth and my actions also match my words IRL. But whenever a woman confirms their belief, it's suddenly "so refreshing to hear a woman speak the truth / finally an honest woman". This really makes me want to disengage altogether and stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:17 AM
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They just don't get it. They're so focused on sex veing the end all goal that they can't fathom that a person who can only sleep with people who use them, disrespect them, don't give a shit about them, and who immediately get a disgust reaction towards them after orgasming, might not actually enjoy all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:05 AM
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it's visceral attraction for how hot I am or just fuck off, bitch Most women won't get a "visceral attraction" (lol) to some random guy, no matter how hot he is. Women must get at least a preview of the character and personality of the guy before attraction even sparks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:59 AM
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I appreciate the consistency, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:34 AM
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A lot of guys here believe women should only have sex when the guy seems serious about his intentions (commitment), cause that would mean women would not be "used" by Chads and ultimately have fewer sex partners which benefit men. They think that more avoidance towards non-commited sex would equalize things. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:31 AM
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Lol, I always scroll over his messages cause it's impossible to find the patience to read through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:22 AM
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It's wrong? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:05 AM
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I really want the men who think most men want love and connection to fight the ones who think most men just want sex and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:05 AM
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Do you think it's wrong for women to want commitment first and then have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:57 AM
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I was talking about manosphere guys who aren't reasonable tho. I've seen comments on this sub that "I couldn't care less if i'm her last, it only matters to me if i'm her first". Plus there seems to be an ingrained belief that women will only marry for resources. Most men aren't this extreme, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:31 AM
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The comment I made was about me personally and you ask a question as if I responded on behalf of 4 billion women. Personally, I did only sleep with people I was serious about, which is exactly 1 person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:48 PM
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Nah, this thing about older having more bagage has been said plenty of times on this sub. For instance it always comes up in debates about age-gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:37 PM
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What do you mean? Why do you think I do it to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:50 PM
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In her other videos, yeah, I can agree, but in this particular one I didn’t see any cringe. It is like an in-depth researched essay sprinkled with some humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:54 PM
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Yes, I 100% understand their fear. Just as women fear they are considered "for recreational purposes only" or "i'm only with her cause she's the only one who gave me a chance", and not actually loved and cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:26 AM
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For real. Manosphere men will consider the guy you eventually marry as the beta "safe option" by default, if you've had other partners besides him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:18 AM
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Very good comment. And I also recommend the Contrapoints YouTube video about Twilight (it's actually about female sexuality and how it's explored in fantasy). Awesome watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:28 PM
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Lmao, what
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:32 PM
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Yeah, I don't get it either. Cheating aside, is he a crush or is he just a friend? If he's a crush you'd desperately want him to break up with his wife, or you'd stop the affair cause it's too painful or something. You won't just think of it as a fwb thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:28 AM
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Thank you for your answer and I am really sorry things haven't worked out for you. Your perspective is very unique comming from a man, cause on this sub we only hear that men want to be clearly attractive instantly and how sleeping as soon as possible is a sign that the woman desires them on a "visceral level", and how that's all that matters. So I respect your opinion a lot and I understand where you're comming from. I wish you good luck in finding a great woman who will love and cherish you ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:16 AM
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Can you expand on this? What made the experience bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:44 PM
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Quite the opposite really. He's just not insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:23 PM
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Anything not physical is not cheating What if your girlfriend was sexting and exchaging nudes with some other guy? Would this really not bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 04:38 PM
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Once again, nobody watches a Hallmark movie to get sexually aroused, masturbation or not. This is actually insane and I beg you to stop saying this cause it's crazy. These movies are watched for entertainment purposes only, they cheer you up and make you feel like the world is a cozy wholesome place. That's not sexual arousal. It's like saying "dudes watch action movies to get boners". No, you watch them for entertainment. And by the way, I fully support dudes using sex toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:01 PM
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Ok. When you said this: you're asking if men would be ok with something women don't want to actually do I thought it wasn't ok with you because it would mean she's doing something that most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:38 PM
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This is the first time i'm hearing about Dark Romance, but ain't no woman watching Hallmark movies for the sole purpose to masturbate, you've got to be kidding me. I am truly speechless that you think they serve the same purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:07 PM
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Sorry if you felt like I shamed men sexually. It was not my intention at all. I just find it very hypocritical that you personally think it's bad when women do it (even if it's rare), compared to men who do it (which is frequently). Again, speaking only about commited relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:53 AM
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We're talking about commited monogamous relationships here, so I don't see how women having an easier time getting casual sex IN GENERAL matters here. And if women have lower libidos (which i admit they do), doesn't it make more sense that women would need more stimuli to get the job done? Whereas men who get horny just by accident would not "need" any porn? Why should other hot sexy naked ladies be involved if it's super easy to get off as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:41 AM
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I don't understand why the equivalent of rom-coms is hardcore pornography, to you. The equivalent of rom-coms is perhaps an action movie where the guy is a hero and also gets the hot looking side-kick. Porn is equivalent to porn, not books, not dildos, not romantic comedies that even kids can watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:00 AM
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A better comparison would be a dildo vs a fleshlight, and I would not have a problem with a fleshlight. It's intentionaly seeking and lusting over other fully naked people I have a problem with. Wonder why he got you a toy. He said it's cause he wanted me to experience more vaginal orgasms (which require dozens of minutes of rythmic pounding). But idk, for me it feels too much like a gynecological exam, cold, lifeless and too hard, so we barely use it. A penis is much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:39 AM
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Alright. I can't relate to this. I think that regularly watching something creates expectations and changes the baseline for what is perceived normal or what is desired. Exposure to misogynistic or misandrist media, exposure to certain political beliefs change what we think and believe. Why wouldn't it also be the case with porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:25 AM
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The only toy I have is the one my husband bought for us to use together. I don't use any toy solo, but I also don't see how it compares to watching other real living naked hot people and imagining being with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:20 AM
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Yeah, thoughts aren't cheating. But if you followed up those thoughts and actually went on to look at specific naked women and trying to imagine you're fucking them for real, that's an intentional action you took. I don't necessarily think it's cheating, but I would be seriously hurt if my partner did that on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:21 AM
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This isn't an excuse. "I was in a lustful state, so it's understandable that I cheated, since I have no control over my behaviour".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:10 AM
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It's the fact that the person specifically looks for other very attractive naked women to imagine having sex with until completion. If your girlfriend would look for total Chads with huge dicks and 6 packs and imagine having sex with him a couple of times per week, would you be perfectly fine with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:06 AM
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Men do not necessarily wish to upgrade, they just like sex outside of their partner. Ah, another instance of "when men cheat, it's for no reason at all, it's just circumstantial, but when women find a better guy, they leave the other guy and go be with the new guy. Women are evil y'all". Also another instance of "when a woman finds a guy attractive, you can tell". You don't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:36 AM
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Wow, misogynistic and misandrist, at the same time! Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:06 AM
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But why aren't they hit hard in their masculinity when they hear that his is dick too large, it hurts and thus cannot satisfy his girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:14 AM
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Same, omg. I came to this sub filled with compasion and eager to help men put themselves out into the world, cause I have a soft spot for shy insecure good people. But turns out, they don't want to helped, nor are they good people. They just want to continue to believe that women are deceiving manipulative liars, who want to keep men hopeful so they don't lash out, while also using them for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:14 AM
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Yeah, whatever happened to just saying you hate women without any consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:38 AM
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Have lots of steamy sex with hot crazy women, then settle down with the sweet virginal homemaker? This is just AF/BB for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:26 AM
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Does this sub not understand that people have FEELINGS for their partner? Like, they actually love and want the entire person that is their partner. "If he is desirable enough, she'd dump her partner and choose this other guy". "If I find a better looking dog who does more tricks, i'll just abandon my current dog whom I have a bond with and love every bit bit of." This is how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:32 PM
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Yeah, I totally agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:41 AM
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I don't know if attraction is alreday there per se. Since frequenting this sub I really tried to study myself to see how I experience attraction. If I see a good looking guy, it's almost as if there's an invisible break that stops attraction, but hightens curiosity until I get to know a little bit about the guy. On the other hand, I have met totally average guys and after talking to them for a bit, I started to get attracted to them as well. In either case, it was the talking to them for a bit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:19 AM
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Yeah, I don't get it either... It's like shooting at random hoping something would stick. Maybe i'm too old, but back in my day, people would first fancy each other, then start dating. And dating was already a significant step forward. Less effort, less rejection, higher chance of real love, everything happens organically. But people would have to go out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:02 AM
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Depends if he usually finds most women attractive or if he's like me and usually finds everyone neutral. Me and my husband fell in love with each other when we were in 6th grade, so no, we were not initially attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:11 PM
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Ok, thanks. I take it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:01 PM
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If you have the link to where this was originally published, i'd like to see it, because when I searched for it on Google, I only got this image with this title "OkCupid rating back when we let people score etc etc".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:36 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate your comment a lot. No, I think most women will know during a small conversation whether they find the man attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:23 AM
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Any living being wants its own well-being, so one would have to be extremely twisted to be sexually attracted to someone who exhibits signs that they might hurt or even kill them. The large LARGE majority of women aren't sexually attracted to men that hurt and/or kill them. But if the guy is dangerous to others, but caring and protective of her, then that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:19 AM
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No, wtf. Why do y'all have to be so black and white all the time? You understand there are nuances and differences between women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:46 AM
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this chart seems suspiciously clean to me. Like, why aren't there any outliers at all here. Everytime I see this chart I think the same thing. It's too homogeneous and together with the title, makes me believe it's false. I want to see the official chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:11 AM
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That's just normal female sexuality. They need to know a little bit about the guy in order to feel attraction. This can happen after a few minutes of talking, or even just from a video of a guy talking. This is biology at work. A man can be a potential danger to the woman, so she needs a way to map out his emotions and reactions as efficiently as possible. Demisexuals, on the other hand, are only attracted when there's a present emotional connection, which obviously takes much more times for it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:04 AM
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🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:54 PM
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If men want to be in a relationship with a 5 or 9, they will treat them very similar once they are in it, same amount of love and values. Yeah, this isn't true. Men bend over backwards for a hot sexy woman, they are more forgiving of her flaws and they feel a bigger status boost from dating her. One guy here said, a woman his age will have to cook, clean and be a certain way, but that from a young woman he basically has no other demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:13 PM
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Right?? It's a shame that we all get categorised a certain way afterwards because of a few asshole people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:35 AM
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Yeah, no. Men should just leave in cases like this. Nobody needs to hear how much of a dissapointment they are from their current partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:13 AM
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Ok. Thanks for being consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:09 AM
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Damn, wtf is wrong with people? This would crush anybody. Why did you keep seeing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:07 AM
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I've seen an entire thread on AskMen with men saying that one of their ex was so much better in bed, that the sex was wild and the ex was up for everything, but that they don't give a shit, they love their current partener more and want to be with her. How should the current female parteners feel upon hearing this? Is it valid for them to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:04 AM
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In the link you added you automatically assume that the guys are Chads, when it says nothing of this sort. Interesting. Seems like you believe that all non-Chad men are innocent angels that have only the purest of intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:26 AM
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Probable positives: less ghosting after sex, no more sudden post-clarity disgust, less pump and dump, no more women labled as "recreational use only", probably more respect for women, less sex-crazed desperation, more self-control, less rape etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:58 PM
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If men had higher standards for sex, so many problems would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:08 PM
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What you describe is the exact opposite of my experience and that of basically everyone I know. "Most young women"? Certainly NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:58 PM
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It absolutely 100% possible and it happens all the time for men and women and it’s just as legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:57 PM
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I am not dishonest, I am genuinely curious. It is a good faith question. To women, the man who commits to her is the most important man to her. It doesn't matter that she can have sex with whomever, most women don't even see this as the advantage you think it is. This is just labled as "men would have sex with anybody and not care". Women want men who love them enough to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:09 PM
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I don't really think about it, with the only exception of when i'm walking alone and feel in danger. That's when I think, god damn I wish I had the capability to punch and kick like a dude. Or when I wrestle with my husband. I hate that have to resort to biting or clawing. My weak ass muscles don't do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:21 AM
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Interesting. So, if women find Chads the most attractive based on photos, why do guys here always misunderstand this as "anyone who's not a Chad is fugly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:15 AM
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Idk, some men suggested here that simply believing that you deserve better means you're settling 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:07 AM
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Yes, that could be. But people here say that women are the choosers, and that men are more likely to stay in bad relationships, so if that's true, then I guess women should be more worried that men are settling for them, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:55 AM
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Me and my husband were virgins when we married, but i'm gonna attempt to answer this nevertheless. It's because the competition that matters to me is not whether i'm better in bed than some other person, but whether he loves me more. The fact that he loves me more, commits and stays faithful to me matters more to me than thinking that I am not perhaps as exciting in bed as a previous partner. I got the commitment, so it's safe to say he sees me as more valuable. I genuinely don't understand why …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:11 AM
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Wtf? Doing it on other people's bed? Almost public sex? You can't violate other people like this. They did not consent to have your naked asses on their bed. They did not consent to accidentaly seeing you too having sex in the common spaces. What is wrong with you? Can't you control yourselves? Don't involve other unknowing people in your kinks. Gross...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:56 AM
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Very insightful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:52 PM
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This part i understand, from a logical point of view. But why are then men more willing to stay in a bad relationship, especially since they prefer to not commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:59 PM
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What if it was a MFM threesome? Do you still wanna do it with her and another guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:38 PM
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If i'd watch my husband have sex with another woman, i think i'd go mad. I legit don't think i'll ever recover from that and the relationship will be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:36 PM
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Yeah OP, it's your wife's ultimate fantasy, are you gonna be unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:26 PM
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Lol I made the 6 feet wide comment specifically for the 666 crowd, so thanks for playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:11 PM
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I'm sorry you went through all that. I think women are so afraid they're gonna lose their rights again, that some of them act all unhinged, fighting with the only weapon they know to work: emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:08 PM
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For those women it's not. I'm only debating the fact that just cause women get a ton of matches, you believe that they're somehow considered very attractive by men. They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:21 AM
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No, he described a situation where he adapted his social sorrounding in order to ask someone out as naturally as possible. You gonna need a 6 feet wide playbook if you want to cover all possible social sorroundings and possible interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:19 AM
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Ok, this is what the sub needs. Like you said, I think a lot of men here want a playbook of the things to say and when to say them, when what they actually need is to practice their social skills and learn to use the social circumstances they are in to make a woman feel safe and interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:56 AM
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Well we all fake our personality in one way or another. We try to be polite when we actually want to scream at someone. We say "kind reminder" when we actually mean "don't you fucking forget about this", we control our impulses every day, cause we're living in a society. There will always be a discrepancy between who we are inside and who we let the world see, and we are always learning about how to improve that image of ourselves to the world. I think fake it till you make it is true. But eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:42 AM
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If more women die from a 9 month pregnancy then men die from working somewhere, then this means that a pregnancy is more dangerous than the job, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:28 AM
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Ok, I thought you meant it purely sexual. Of course women do their fair share of "using others". That's obviously shitty behaviour that should be called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:18 AM
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This is part of personality, it's part of the inner person. Sure, you can break down personality into: charisma, character, feelings, attitudes, opinions, interests, values etc but all these are part of the inner person, of the brain if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:13 AM
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I think most women recognise that things have changed drastically, but it's more of a "fucking finally! we are treated like actual human beings". About the men's movement, I think it's already going in the right direction. I'd like to see more empathetic discussion in the media about men's problems, i'd like male beauty standards to come back to reality, i'd like more acceptance in terms of career and lifestyle choices. I'd like to see bigger better support groups for men, for them to have close…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:04 AM
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Men wanting to fuck anybody isn't an indication of the fact that they find almost every woman attractive. It's just an indication that they are so horny that they will overlook this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:32 AM
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Lots of women entered unwanted marriages in the past for necessity yes, but to say that in general men are never desired is crazy. I don't think you truly believe this, cause you'd have to be too far removed from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:32 AM
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What? This is obviously not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:10 AM
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Dude, I am the first to say that I am so relieved and happy to be living in this day and age. I see my mother, my aunts and my grandmothers and I am so grateful for my opportunities and for my life in general as a woman in 2024. It's not perfect, but definitely MUCH better than even just 2 decades ago. Even the men are more amazing now, than ever before. I also wish and support a men's movement so that men can get to be who they want without facing social stigma. Peace all!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:17 PM
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But on the flip side, they dont consider their own actions in that regard, as that. Can you explain what you mean by this? A lot of men said they would absolutely like to be used purely for sex. I've read it plenty of times on this sub, although I know it's not what all men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:08 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:55 AM
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When you accept someone, you’ll never know why that is because acceptance no longer communicates that much. Interesting, because most women have the same sentiment when it comes to men, because men have said a lot that the bar for sex is super low, even "men will have sex with anybody". So when men proposition you, you don't know if it's because you are a genuine interest or just "anybody".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:21 AM
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Socially isolated, but also like... no siblings, therefore fewer chances to negotiate space and learn to be happy living with other people. Or perhaps it's the other way around: too many siblings? Weird indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:52 PM
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You're thinking that this is a compliment "Oh, she thinks i'm so high value, that I can get other women to sleep with me". It's actually not a compliment at all "Is he a disloyal, cheating weak ass who forgets about his promises and commitment when opportunities present themselves?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:54 AM
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I have zero reasons to suspect he was cheating, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:41 AM
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Are you saying that most men in relationships only settled for their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:49 PM
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You sure you want to calculate it like this? Cause when she gives birth, then she'll be like tens of thousands of dollars ahead of you cause umm... she provided the service of being a surogate to your child. And afterwards providing constant fresh human breastmilk and being a permanent stay-in baby sitter. No amount of fixing things around the house will top that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:25 AM
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The point is a lot of women can't even admit this to themselves. For example, i stop the train of thought whenever I start thinking "would I still have kids if i went back in time?" cause i'm scared about i might find.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:30 AM
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This is also my answer. There's some sort of fear involved. A stranger doesn't love me, so i have no reason to completely trust that he won't hurt me, disrespect me or my boundaries, talk shit about me afterwards etc. If we're in a commited relationship, I know that it's in his interest that i am also happy. This sentiment makes casual sex completely off putting for me and it's also the reason why i am never sexually attracted to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:05 AM
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I don't think many women will admit to regretting having their kids. It's a scary thought full of stigma that most women don't even let it go too far in their own mind, not to mention admit it out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:54 AM
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👍 ok, dude. Seems you have have it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:39 AM
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Most only show their true colors when things between them have already advanced. And these men specifically choose vulnerable women that they can manipulate and can't easily escape. But, you know all this. Yet you are still actually insisting that women like to be manipulated and abused, which is completely opposed to the way any living being works. There's no benefit for a person's well-being to be attracted by manipulators and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:43 AM
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I am so sorry you're going through this. What is his explanation for this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:32 AM
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Yes, but women don't like them because they are psycopaths and narcissist. Women like charismatic men and dark triad men just can fake charisma very well. It's like men falling for strippers cause they thought the stripper was actually into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:58 AM
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It's NOT cause they're dark triad, how many times do we have to say this? It's cause they are highly skilled at manipulating people with charisma that appears genuine. It even says so in your article.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:46 AM
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Agree. Whenever I stumble upon a photo of a guy claiming he's an incel or extremely shy or whatever, I like to imagine him having the most open confident and charming personality. The change is like a 180 in perceived attractiveness. Standing up straight, having a relaxed but confident body language and open and bright facial expressions, make a huge difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:29 PM
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Don't know how true this is, but this type of behaviour or belief shouldn't be accepted or normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:14 PM
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Same sentiment as: "Men should be happy to be used for their money. There's something wrong with these men anyway since women don't want anything beyond that, so just be happy she agreed to a date with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:48 AM
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That's what i've heard men say, that it satisfies their need for variety cause they immerse themselves into one of the roles. Is it not the same for you? I can say for certain that I DO NOT imagine myself in any role when watching or reading something sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:35 AM
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I did find a guy who doesn't watch porn. I have a responsive drive, and he turns me on so good when he initiates that I basically always say yes. If he'd be watching porn instead, I imagine our active sex life would plummet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:05 PM
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Cause I don't want my man to fantasize and be turned on to completion by another woman. Simple. I honestly don't understand when it became normal to look for other naked people, and imagine yourself fucking those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:50 PM
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Nah, porn is the result of technology addressing male sexuality and it has been around for ages in different forms, even if men were paired up or not. It's more popular now cause it's free, easily accesible and more immersive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:02 AM
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But men watch porn even if they have a girlfriend or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:06 AM
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I think this is another case of "cofindent, independent, dominant and exiciting" being considered "asshole dark triad" traits. Ain't no woman on earth who fantasizes about being beaten, humiliated, insulted etc (in a non-kink way).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:59 AM
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Not to mention that in fiction, the bad boy is generally soften by his overwhelming love for the woman. So in truth, women's fantasy is for a man to be so into her that it transforms him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:04 AM
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Yes, that's totally reasonable. I am debating the point that men treat their hookups the worse, but treat their wife the best, while women do the opposite. In reality everything depends on a ton of factors, but generaly speaking, both men and women give their best to their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:58 PM
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Idk, there are many little ways a man can tell whether the woman is into him as a man, and not just after his money. If she doesn't make him pay for everything, if she seems financially responsible, if she splits costs, if she doesn't expect gifts all the time, if she earns her own money, if she doesn't seem to value opulence or expensive clothes/nails/hair, if she doesn't require lots of things for her to happy, if she flirts with him and is playfully sexual without a monetary incentive, if she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:10 AM
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Ugh... Let me refrase that. Just because a relationship happens to also have an exchange of resources, doesn't mean the woman doesn't desire him. Basically all relationships develop an exchange of resources and services at one point or another. It doesn't mean they don't desire eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:33 AM
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Ok, but just because a relationship involves an exchange of resources, doesn't mean the woman doesn't desire the man. In extremely specific rare cases, it can be true, but definitely not in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:03 AM
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Thanks for answering. So, in general men do long after the hookups in their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:22 AM
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men treat wife material women the best, and treat hookups the worst. There was a guy on here who said that men value their hookups much more than married sex because the hookups didn't involve any resources and are proof that she found him purely sexually desirable. And frankly, there have been lots of men on this sub saying the same thing. Do you disagree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:03 AM
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Do you think your sex/head game is better than an experienced sex worker? Nope If not, why should a guy choose you over a sex worker? If sex/head game is his only criteria for a relationship, then he should definitely choose the sex worker. I'm not even mad about it👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:58 PM
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Of course but that's not what i'm talking about. I married as a virgin to the only boyfriend I had (him as well). It was hard as hell, and pointless when I think about it now, but we 100% did practice moderation and thinking about the future. However, I never ONCE thought that me being young is the most valuable thing i have. I found other things about me were more valuable, like me being a responsible decent person, like the fact that i am loyal loving and fun, like literally any OTHER thing I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:45 AM
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Very well put and completely agree. Young people are just living in the present trying to make the best of their present day lives. Ain't nobody thinking "i'm currently at my most valuable self, and I need to distribute my youth in a logical manner, so i'm purposefully gonna be giving my youth to this specific guy now".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:37 AM
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Do you have a source for this? I find it very unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:03 AM
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I HATE this phrase. It's cringe and stupid and I immediately think less of the person saying it. Same with "Just be a man and xyz".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:30 AM
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Wtf, you can't be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:17 AM
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I am so sorry you are going through this. Jesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:56 AM
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So, the advantage of traditional relationships is that they're relationships? It was implied that the statement was about benefits that are exclusive to traditional relationships. You don't have to respond. It's wild that we're even debating this. Have a nice day and chill a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:36 PM
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Yeah, but wasn't cheating much more likely in gay couples than in lesbian couples? It all comes down to the fact that in general, men will stay in shitty relationships, while women won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:26 PM
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The power of jesus, lmao 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:02 PM
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This post is like the meme about inserting niceness coins and expecting sex to come out, only difference is OP is serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:59 PM
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When the user above said: There's not a single pro for average income men and Women in a "traditional" relationship You answered with: Love, family, and a home to call your own? Thus implying that these are direct advantages of traditional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:40 PM
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Oh my god... did you get diagnosed? Cause i've never heard of this before. This is terrifying. I hope from the bottom of my heart that you are better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:31 PM
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I've heard it on this sub. A male user said that men only cheat because of momentary lapse of judgement, but they still love their wife and will never leave her, cause that sex means nothing to then, while women only cheat when they've checked out of the relationship and are in love with someone else. Essentially that men cheating is spontaneous therefore means nothing and is excusable, but women cheating is deliberate and intentional therefore wrong and inexcusable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:22 PM
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But why would only a traditional relationship give you those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:06 PM
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Yeah he says she is a 10 but she calls him a 6. My question was actually about whether he also mentioned something about attractivenes, not numbers. Did he ever feel unattractive to her? Cause by the few info i have, it seems like he was suprised by the number. I am surprised bluepill people in here believe this, I thought blue people and progressives don't believe in objective beauty standards I was explaining how a lot of men here talk. I believe beauty is subjective, but not entirely subjecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:28 AM
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I didn't assume that, it shows that she doesn't find home that attractive compared to how he finds her attractive. Was this mentioned in the post you read? This is all bullshit because there is no objective way to measure attractiveness You must be new here then, because a lot of men here use this true rate scale and always say how there are specific measurable features that make someone attractive or not. A lot of men here have proudly said that they'd marry a 5 and find her sexually attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:11 PM
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You only assume that she doesn't find a six sexually attractive. If she's using the stupid true rate me scale, it actually means he's pretty attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:55 PM
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Sorry, I really don't understanding what you mean. Men and women both have jobs and pay taxes, both have the same rights under the law, both use hospitals and schools, both use public transportation etc. Why do you think it's only men who pay and only women who benefit? Like, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:32 PM
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An RP guy on here said he'd ignore any red flags in a hot young woman, but automatically disqualify a woman closer to his age if she displayed the smallest red flag. But noo, god forbid if a woman had sex just 2 days earlier with another guy from her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:15 PM
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I think this is the greatest time to be alive. We have good medicine, we are safe and not afraid for our lives, we live longer lives and if we actually give a shit, we can be healthier than any person from any other time period. I think people who glamourize past times romanticize the good things, but grossly downplay the bad things. Just the simple fact that people today have so much free time that they spend it thinking about their happiness and debating philosophical topics proves that we hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:59 PM
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No, i'm saying that just because a woman doesn't want to have sex with most men, doesn't mean she hates all those men. And i'm giving the example of relatives to prove that there are people in your life right now that you care about, but don't feel any sexual thoughts about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:30 PM
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Men here say all the time that sex is separated from love (recreational use vs marriage material) You can love your mom deeply without ever wanting to have sex with her Not wanting to have sex with someone doesn't mean you hate someone. Do you hate your mom? Again with the assumption that male sexuality is the default normal true one, although it represents half of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:30 AM
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I agree. How true do you think this is? I think most men need a clear purpose in their lives, and perhaps a lot of men make women their purpose. But other men make their business, their research, their search for a higher truth as their purpose and they are dedicated and proactive members of society. So maybe we as a society should find ways to nurture the interests of boys and men so that they find fulfillment in their accomplishments, not in female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:44 AM
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A big portion either doing ot or following the same logic. It's not a big portion. I don't know who you sorround yourself with, but in my circle of friends I don't know any woman who chose an abusive asshole. I only heard of a colleague from a different department at my dad's job. Oh, and a friend of a friend of my sister-in-law. See, if we saw women holding them accountable and calling out stuff, we wouldn't be saying this. We do, we definitely advise against it, in media and in our personal li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:03 AM
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High status means the man is capable, strong and has influence. These traits have always been sought after by women, so I guess attraction skips a step, because women don't need to check if a man has those qualities; they're already there since he is presented as a high status man. In my case, high status or celebrity status doesn't really mean anything on it's own, it just hightenes curiosity like i said. I have to first see the guy interacting, talking, moving, to know if he's also a kind open…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:38 AM
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It's not "y'all", it's "some" women. And I have no idea why those go for assholes, the only explanation I can think of is that they're traumatized and perpetuating the cicle of abuse they've been accustomed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:21 AM
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Again, not the original commenter but I really appreciate your good-faith questions. It all starts at a neutral level. If the guy presents some traits I appreciate in a partner, then a hightened curiosity arises which makes me want to know more about them so I can evaluate if we'd be a good match or not (always for a relationship). If there's a bad trait relationship-wise, physical attraction never begins. If there's no bad trait and perhaps one or two more traits I like (relationship-wise), the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:36 PM
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Again with the ignorance and dismissal of any information about female sexuality. "omg hes so good to animals, hes so generous and caring, I want him to violently pound me" Yes, literally this, unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:17 PM
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Not the original commenter, but for me it absolutely transfers into literal physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:05 PM
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No, god... Most women aren't stimulated visually only. Most men are stimulated visually only. It's just different types of stimuli. Just because it's different than men's doesn't mean women hate sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:01 PM
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Thank you. I keep saying this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:57 PM
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Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive? Not really. About 20% I'd say, but they all look completely different. My type is kind men who are fun and easy to talk to. Apparently [...] very few men are able to make them feel something “down there” This is different than just finding someone attractive. There have been exactly zero times when a random guy has made me feel something "down there" upon seeing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:49 PM
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Would you take care of other men's fuck trophy? Are you one of those men worried about finding fertile women? Cause nothing says "I care about children" more than calling them "a man's fuck trophy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:14 PM
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Jfc... how can kids be this cruel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:24 PM
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I really appreciate you opening up like this. Seems like you know what you believe is wrong, you understand how you got here and what the issue is, but you just can't help feeling the way you do. In this case, there's basically nothing anyone can say to convince you otherwise. So when I asked what should women say so that you believe they care, the answer is "absolutely nothing, whatever women say will be interpreted as not caring". And like you said, the other guys are probably not as aware as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:57 PM
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I agree. I know it's hard for men because sometimes it feels like you have to work just so that your partner will want to have sex with you, but unfortunately this is how sexuality is for a lot of women, myself included, it needs to be awakened. But on the bright side, frequent positive sex can train a woman's body to desire it more from her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:56 PM
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. I don't think there are many women out there who don't acknowledge that women have an easier time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:17 AM
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No, I do care, that's why I initially subscribed to this damn sub, because I have a soft spot for vulnerable, introverted good people and I thought I could help and give them some hope and advice. Turns out, they are not vulnerable or good, they don't want help, nor do they want to understand the female perspective. They just want things to be how they want. They accuse women here of lying, of deceiving, of manipulating, of virtue signaling etc, just like you have. It's very disheartening, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:18 AM
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Just want to touch on this bit: Every single 🍇ist and accused 🍇ist believes this. “She really wanted it” “She was just being a tease” “No means try again” Every single rapist? You actually think that a woman screaming and fighting to keep the guy off her could actually be seen as "she was just being a tease" by these rapists? No, they knew what they were doing and they didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:16 AM
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That's a truly insane belief. It's mad when some men here think women aren't human. Most people care imensly about the people they interact with, even about strangers, but not so much with strangers who demand stuff from them in particular. Who do you care more about: - people you don't know who are living in extreme poverty - people you don't know who blame you and demand you give them money so they can live a more happy fulfilled life Do you care that an ugly fat older woman you never even met…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:19 AM
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Lmao, what the hell, I gotta look this up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:16 PM
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This. Honestly, I go with the flow and accept most if not all of my husband's sex propositions. He seduces me with foreplay to the point where I actively want it. But if he ever implied that I should be doing this by default, i'd be turned off for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:14 PM
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Yeah it varries for the same person too. Sometimes sweet, sometimes neutral like saliva, most of the times salty, and in rare occasions not good at all, bitter and acidic like it's gonna burn your throat. I actually get heartburn those times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:49 PM
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Did you get this idea from "The Man with 1000 kids" on Netflix?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:45 PM
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Entitled and hypocritical. Absolutely awfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:41 PM
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I completely agree. But this is all because of personality. Smiling, talking in a relaxed manner and having a laid back confident body language is part of personality that's showing through the body. Elliot Roger with Pete's humor, confidence and charisma would have rocked. Pete Davidson with Elliot's awkwardness, anxiety and dead soul look would have also been an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:13 AM
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No, it's more like: if you're average looking, good personality will definitely help your chances if you're hot looking, bad personality will defintely ruin your chances Women evolved to find personality attractive, because they are more vulnerable physically, so a man with a good personality is imperative to her well being. Similarly, men find good motherly traits hot in women because this means survival for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:55 AM
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I am starting to believe that someof you guys here will label a guy ugly or attractive purely based on his success with women. Pete Davidson is objectively ugly, but since he has no problem dating, this must mean he's actually handsome. Elliot Roger is objectively quite handsome, but since he never had sex, this must mean he's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:39 AM
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That's exactly how it was. I read his manifesto. He somehow believed that women would magically flock around him if he was rich, or had nice clothes or a nice car. He didn’t approach or talk to anyone himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:32 AM
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Yeah, the things people tell my daughters is "don't cry because you're ugly when you cry" and to my boy: "don't cry because men don't cry". Hate this with passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:49 PM
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The first paragraph is very concerning indeed. Nobody should act like this, this is crazy. The second idk, i obviously don't know your friends but did you consider that you might only be noticing these moments and not the ones where the man takes the lead?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:22 PM
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Yes, fair enough. It is indeed a quite radical view among men. I still wish the insults weren't related to getting laid or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:27 PM
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I think in the past (more like '80 and '90), communication between partners and education wasn't as open as today and sex was done primarily for the man. Female pleasure wasn't really taken into consideration. When talking to my peers I would hear stuff like: "I heard it hurts a lot", "My mom says she doesn't like it at all", "My aunt said she only does it because of her husband", "I heard you're forced to do it twice a week!!" Some men are still selfish and shut down like this even today, but n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:09 PM
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Yes, exactly. Men and women prefer the parts of sexism that brings them benefits that are also expressed in a positive light: "Men are strong and capable of great things, their job is to do the important work of protecting and providing" vs "Men are like children, they can't even cook an omlette without throwing a tantrum, they never cleanup after themselves and don't even wash their own asses properly". "Women are caring and delicate. They need to be protected and provided for in order for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:04 PM
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I also want to know what you mean by this. What do you see in the relationship that suggest he is submissive? Asking cause i've seen here examples of relationships being classified as "she's the boss" simply because he sometimes asks for her opinion on stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:42 PM
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Your argument is kinda like: "when black people were slaves they were more docile and respecting, but now they're out there doing what they want, even crimes and stuff. It's our job to force them to act like slaves again."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:38 PM
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Wouldn't you agree that men would also prefer benevolent sexism as well in their women? "He's a guy, of course he can't wash dishes", "I'm cooking and laying his plate in front of him, because he doesn't even know how to turn on the stove", "Men shouldn't take care of children, men are just not build for that", "Men can't clean at all, lol, women must do it for them", "That's just how guys are, they get agressive and start fights, then they cool off, so just let it pass".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:32 PM
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Men here are rightfully complaining that they are not allowed to be anything but a narrow slice of acceptable masculinity, and here you are doubling down on the claim that any man who holds a different view only does so hoping to get laid (or is gay, a soy boy, a white knight, a simp etc - pick your insult).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:19 PM
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100%. I'm starting to think some men here believe that confidence means acting entitled and like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:00 PM
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Lmao, exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:03 PM
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Exactly. Like 95% of men prefer big boobs. Doesn't mean small boobs aren't perfectly fine as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:52 PM
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I was replying to a comment that said: Then if she likes you for you wouldn't she be happy having sex with you without commitment? Why does it need resources to sweeten the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:44 PM
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Why is it always about resources to you guys? Maybe the woman isn't comfortable having sex without commitment, maybe she's not into hookups, maybe she wants to feel an emotinal connection. I certainly wouldn't have hooked up with my husband, because I hookup with NO ONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:09 AM
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I would genuinely have no problem with this. In fact I think it's very weird that he initially invested so much money on dates. Like he was naive or overcompensating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:50 AM
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Exactly, once the woman gave him his number, then it is assumed that she is also interested in him and in a relationship with him, so she should be trying to prove herself too. But I don't think only men should approach first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:31 AM
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I would rather date c) people who don't have black and white preferences for every single stupid thing and are flexibile enough to find me attractive even if when i'm varying degrees of hairy. But to actually answer your question, I prefer b).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:25 AM
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Yeah I don't believe you. We're just making shit up now wtf 💀 It's true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:10 PM
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Yes, that's the problem. Men need to stay away from dating apps imo and learn to be more sociabile and charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:33 PM
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So women aren't visually stimulated, like regular people??? Attraction for women can be stimulated in more ways, either visually or through other means. That's what I keep trying to say. For instance, I am happily married and barely notice other guys, but this summer i found 2 guys attractive. One was a super cool looking dude on the bus, with long curly hair and a guitar on his back. And the other was nerdy looking skinny guy, with barely any chin at all, that you guys will not believe. He was …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:26 AM
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Wait, it’s hypergamy for a widow to remarry now?? Yes, a live man is of more value than dead one. This just in: dating is discriminatory against dead men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:19 AM
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This is a normal part of relationships. As long as it’s not one-sided, I don’t think that’s pick me behavior. For real. Does nobody understand the terms "pick-me" and "submissive" anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:50 AM
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Never thought of it this way, but it's a solid analogy. If I don't want a guy as a friend, no biggie, everyone is different. But if nobody wants him as a friend (not the nerds, not the stoners, not the hikers, not any group), you start to think there might be something wrong with him. Not necessarily something morally wrong, but maybe he just doesn't sell himself good enough, he's not social or interesting enough to provide the friend group with enough value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:43 AM
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I seen women claim how they find 95% to 99% of all men unattractive I'm gonna repeat this until I die, I guess: we find most guys neutral, physically speaking only, yes. But most women are able to find a guy attractive even if he's not objectively physically attractive, if he has other qualities she likes. The only problem is that looks are easy to spot, you don't even have to talk or even be close, while the other qualities take some interaction to get discovered. Please understand that female …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:22 AM
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My husband is the most balanced guy i know. He is a combination of reliable, responsible, pro-active and also goofy and extremely funny. We've been together's one and only ever since we were 13/14, but even after all this time, our relationship is fresh and dynamic. We cannot get bored together. What i love the most about us is that we are so different, yet so chill with each other, we can speak our mind freely, i don't have to guard myself or censor my words about anything. I can just be me. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:04 PM
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😂 idk, I find this list hella funny "Just don't be horrible"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:01 AM
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Exactly this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:32 AM
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Interesting. When women aren't submissive they are "going to start arguments, act like a boss, act unruly, walk all over the man, be disrespectful etc." But when a man is dominant (so not even unsubmissive) he is "consistent, reliable and respectful, he takes responsibility for things and weighs in every decision in order to act in a way that is best for everyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:59 AM
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"Men need to treat us like human beings" = "Men need to treat us like they treat men, like women treat men, like women treat women, like men treat older married women etc" So basically, not view us exclusively through a sexual lense. in men's world, respect is earned Yeah, no. Respect is a given among men, but is taken away quickly if that man proved to be unworthy of it. Women don't get automatic respect like men do, not in the professional world, not in the dating world. We had to fight for it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:05 AM
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I'm just saying they're miserable with all these things. No, they aren't. Women are more likely to have no issues remaining single if they don't find a suitable partner. Perhaps men don't quite understand or believe this fact. Women that are more monogamous inclined and sexual refrained can remain as they are, nobody ia forcing them to participate in hookups or threesomes. And women who want variety and sexual exploration can have that. This is a win for the guys too. Any sane person values free…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:52 AM
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Ok, no i get that this might look like a consequence. But still why would women regret freedom? All this doesn't even begin to compare to being a free human being. It's like asking "Will black people blame white men for giving them freedom?" Not in a million years, no, even though i'm sure there were some heavy consequences at first. It just had to be done, it was the right thing. I mean how stupid would a woman have to be to blame men for the fact she can't "adjust her standards" if she's a fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:58 PM
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Why would women regret being liberated? And blame men for it, like what?? If any woman wants to live like in the '50s, she is free to do it. But I find that it's mostly men who want to live like in the '50s, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:11 PM
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Spoiled with freedom and the ability to make our own choices, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:07 PM
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How about redpillers and denying other peoples lived experiences? A guy that never struggled dating? He must be a Chad. He's not a Chad? He must be rich. He's not rich? He has a fat ugly girlfriend. He says he's girlfriend looks attractive to him? She must be old and past her prime. Not past her prime? Then high n-count cause she rode the cock carousel before him. Not high n-count either? Then he's in a dead bedroom or heading rapidly into one. They have a passionate active sex life? Nah, bro, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:54 AM
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You act like you want to be an asshole but since you're not famous, you unfortunately have to be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:33 PM
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Why were you at a rap concert in the first place if you were just looking down your nose at everyone there anyway? Yeah, I don't get it. Young beautiful woman at a rap concert: she wants to fuck the main artist and approves of anything mentioned in his lyrics OP at the same concert: an intelligent individual pondering upon the impact of significant financial gains on the female human's reproductive accesibility
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:27 PM
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Gotta admit, this would work on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:30 PM
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Really? Why is that? The "it's easy for women to have sex whenever they want, unlike for men" doesn't hold up, cause for Chads it's even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:44 AM
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Just checking for consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:41 AM
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What about high n-count men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:48 PM
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Good luck! I'm rooting for you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:34 AM
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And this is the polite comments. Other words i've seen here are: old hags, dried up, shriveled, loose etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:15 AM
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And how old were the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:23 AM
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How much time? And how old where the kids? Cause staying at home with bigger kids for a couple of months can be refreshing change. You feel creative and have patience and energy for everything. But staying at home with babies/toddlers for years is NOT the same. I know because I experienced both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:38 AM
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My own husband said to me once "I know it's stupid, but I always felt that women with large breasts are the most wholesome nice women". So yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:13 PM
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I wonder the same thing. Some act like they just have to look at porn, like "but what am I supposed to do? I don't have a girlfriend, so what choice do i have?".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:52 PM
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Are you then ok with the statement that "all men have the same pursuit: to fuck underage virgins"? Cause there are more than 10 men on Earth who want and do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM
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It's still self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:39 AM
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Nah, I think in the best relationships the partners take turn in being the adorer/adored. Either this or the difference between the two is barely noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:02 PM
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I can make bad faith comments like these as well: "Baseline conditions men require? Young, tits, ass, dormat."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:43 PM
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100%. The excruciating dissection of the most natural and subconscious little things is really something here and quite frankly I think it harms people who have never been in a relationship, cause now they'll think of relationships in a purely logical transactional manner leaving them jadded and dissillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:39 PM
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No. It's one thing to acknowledge the fact that certain baseline conditions must be fulfilled before you can love someone (which is true for everyone) and a whole different thing to say that "men are loved for what they provide, not for who they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:28 PM
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Easiest thing ever: dick size. The reduction would actually be an improvement for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:16 AM
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I like men with downwards tilted eyebrows 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:50 PM
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Saying that you desperately crave sex is also an action, and can easily be seen as automatic consent. Just admit they're both insane ideas and let's go on with our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:08 AM
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But actually yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:40 AM
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Commenter: "who told you that women only want marriage, at least when they’re young ?" You: "Women have on purplepilldebate and social media" I think you can forgive my assumption 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:39 AM
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What they're saying is that most women don't do hookups, that they prefer a relationship. I've never seen anyone mention here that women want to get married young.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:17 AM
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There's also the possibility that they can't properly socialize with women, but can do so with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:59 PM
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I would describe the 3 as runway model/deathly thin, average 24 year old and fat. Well she did say tall model body, average body and chubby but well-proportioned. Personally, I imagined exactly the bodies in the pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:17 PM
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I saw a bit of this show on YouTube and idk if that's how every episode is, but the women there were very superficial and very artificial (heavy makeup, super long nails, very short skirts, artificial eyelashes, sparkly bright clothes etc). Not one normal woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:31 AM
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Some look better clean shaven, some with a stubby beard, some with a bushier thick beard. The only things i find make most men not look as good are long thin beards and moustaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:20 PM
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Source: I live in Romania and this is a fragment from our Penal Code. Translation (with Google Translate): Pimping (1) Determining or facilitating the practice of prostitution or obtaining patrimonial benefits from the practice of prostitution by one or more persons is punishable by imprisonment from 2 to 7 years and the prohibition of the exercise of certain rights. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:50 PM
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Pimps are still illegal in Romania.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:54 PM
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Corporal punishment is abuse and ilegal, wtf... Also, are you saying men would like to discipline their kids by beating them up, but the mom won't allow it, therefore men don't parent at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:04 PM
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I can see through the "natural" look and prefer genuine authenticity, not the appearance of it. Are you sure you don't actually prefer "natural beauty" and not "no makeup"? When you imagine a natural woman, with no makeup, are you imagining a cute young flawless woman or a woman with under eye circles, dull skin, acne scars and sun spots?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:00 PM
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Yeah, It's just a bunchof contradictions. On the one hand there's: chores are super simple, easy peasy, takes 5 minutes to clean everything but on the other hand: you won't find me doing chores ever, I make the money and that's that. And on another hand: we are tired of women wanting us for what we provide, we just want to loved for who we are!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:48 PM
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Men seem more interested how housework affects both parties. Lol, how did you get to this conclusion? Men who agree with your OP absolutely do not care how the housework affects women. Women keep saying how unfair it is for the person that works the same hours to also do most of the chores just because they earn less, and you just shrug and go "but i make more, soooo..." That's not caring about the family unit or about how "housework affects both parties". That's as individualistic as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:21 PM
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Yep. I think men nowadays are the most awesome that men have been, probably ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:45 PM
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Yep, 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:27 AM
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The Orthodox religion doesn't rely purely on the Bible, it also relies on "tradition", meaning teachings that were passed down from generation to generation which "complete" and interpret the Bible. Lol, I even heard that a man must kiss his wife with the same candour as he kisses a religious icon. Of course most religious people won't follow this, but truly devout people will (try).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:56 PM
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Yes, I agree. Both genders have their own priviledges and struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:34 AM
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I agree, and at the same time I hope that men here also acknowledge that they too have priviledge that they don't even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:10 AM
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The Eastern European kind. They have a book deacribing all the sins, so that you don't forget any sins when confessing. Shit's wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:01 AM
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Oh, so most guys are settling, is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:50 AM
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Why would you think that? In my Christian Orthodox religion, if you're devout, there are a ton of rules regarding sex, such as: - you're only supposed to have sex on a Tuesday or Thursday - you're not supposed to have sex anytime during the 4 fasts or religious holidays - birth control is a sin - sex twice or more a day is a sin - sex only in missionary, cause other positions are a sin - absolutely no oral or anal, which are super sins
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:41 AM
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This doesn't sound very reassuring. "I wish I could cheat with someone younger, but I just don't have this option. I am so faithful."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:34 AM
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Idk, it's you who seems to have a pretty rigid idea of what counts as a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:27 PM
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This would have been my dream. But more like: me for the first 6 months (because of the exclusive breastfeeding), then both simultaneously working part-time somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:49 PM
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So you are agreeing that chores do not come under umbrella of the "job" It depends on the kids. Are they babies that don't sleep well and need to be held all the time? In this case, it should be considered a fucking miracle if the mom manages to cook something or vacuum. Are they older and also go to kindergarten? Then yes, of course the mom is expected to do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:31 PM
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Same! It's usually the people who don't have kids or don't actually raise their kids who hold these strong opinions. Reality is gonna hit them like a brick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:23 PM
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I don't understand what you imagine a SAHP does. They don't just stay with the kid. It usually involves activities with the child, read them books, show them stuff, take them outside, play with them. Trying to do a chore like cooking, means you have to keep the child entertained while you're doing that chore. I would give my kids all sorts of objects to play with. But after a while their patience would wear off. So I would switch to another activity, preferably one where i could fold laundry. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:15 PM
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Ok. I also had lots of opinions about parenting before actually having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:06 PM
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It's not the SAHMs causing the mess, it's the kids. Honestly, it's pretty obvious that you guys don't have kids (or aren't actually involved in raising them).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:03 PM
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This is a very ignorant reply. Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:59 AM
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Thats incorrect, many SAHM believe that they are not obligated to do chores when they are doing their "job" as a SAHM. No, the usual argument is that a SAHM's main task is to take of the children, but most women also do chores while caring for the children. Aren't we the gender with impossible cleanliness standards? Unfortunately, it's a daily never ending circle of mess -> cleanup -> mess again -> cleanup again etc. That's why at the end of the day you're still left with chores. What are the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:52 AM
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It's just a continuous string of "yeah, but that doesn't count" with these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:34 AM
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He is expected to contribute equally to childcare when he is home. He is expected to contribute equally to chores [added: when he is home] Well no shit. She has worked all day, he has worked all day. At the end of the day, they BOTH share the remaining workload, as I assume any loving caring partner would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:25 AM
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wears glasses This one is kinda funny. "I want a nice pretty girl with poor eyesight"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:38 PM
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Still not. Some people lack confidence for no reason at all, so fake it till you make it is still a good advice is my opinion. Natural charisma can be revealed when you have confidence and eliminate fear of rejection and the desperate pursuit of validation. What’s not great is faking that you are interested in a woman's hobbies or lying about agreeing with her opinions or views just so you can get her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:35 AM
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Not sure how that changes the fact that those are personality traits. A common blue pill advice is to be more confident and get interests and hobbies to become more interesting and to be more charismatic and I also stand by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:58 PM
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Just a quick note: Redpill - Self-improvement, looks, stoicism, confidence, game, wealth are all things that matter over personality. Stoicism, confidence and game ARE personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:08 PM
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It was the same man. And what was different was that he used numbing cream to last like 40 minutes and go at it at a very specific angle with the same rythm. While yeah they felt better, ain't nobody got time for that. I'd rather stick to old fashion orgasms and have fun sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:30 AM
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No. For instance, in all my years of having sex I was only able to cum from PIV 2 or 3 times. So technically it's possible. Is it probable, though? Absolutely not. I can't even do it on my own. Also my husband is on the large side so it has nothing to do with size.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:12 AM
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I know that video and it broke my heart, i actually cried. The poor man, I wanted to give him a hug. But I also understand that there's a limit to my ability to love. Everything is nuanced obviously, but even so, I can still imagine that in the most absolutely horrible circumstances which perhaps span over decades without a sliver of goodness or redeeming qualities, that it would make me stop loving a child. Even in that video, the man saw redeeming qualities in his son, he said he was a good ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:14 PM
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Yeah, if you look at it from a cold angle, purely objectively, love is based on conditions/requirements, which implies micro-transactions that are mostly subconscious. You want a slim and pretty woman because she makes you feel like you have more value, more status, like you matter. She makes you feel better about yourself and this makes it easier for you to love her, because you want that feeling over and over again. You love how she makes you feel. We help others because of how it makes us fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:23 PM
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Explain how am I a hypocrite. How do you know what conditions I have and if I can achieve them myself or not? And why are you so angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:49 PM
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Dude, I agree. Go debate OP on this, he's the one saying that any requirements one might have means they don't actually love the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:38 PM
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Yes I do, chill. OP here is stating that any condition you set on a loved one, means that you don't actually love them at all. He actually said below my comment that I don't love my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:17 PM
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So your final stance is: nobody loves anybody because love doesn't exist, correct? Because if a person loves just a few people, it means that those few people fulfill certain conditions in order to be loved, meaning that that person loves them transactionally. However, you said love isn't compatibile with transactions and conditions. Therefore either love doesn't exist or you need to review your definition of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:37 AM
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I think you need to say what you mean by "love". If by your definition, love doesn't have any conditions, then everyone should be able to love everyone equally, because there would be no conditions. You would love a deformed convincted pedophile rapist just as much as a nice cute 20 year old woman. This doesn't happen, so by your definition, love doesn't exist at all for anyone, therefore you can edit your post and include everyone in it, not just women. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:19 AM
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But everyone is loved based under certain conditions. If my kids went out to torture animals, steal and bully people, I don't think i'd be able to love them anymore. So i guess even a mother's love is transactional if you look at it from a cold angle. But when the conditions are there, the love is very real, I don't understand why you think they're mutually exclusive. Many men here would stop loving their wife if she'd stop having sex and acted like a deranged disrespectful asshole. Does this me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:42 AM
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The reason I downplay looks is cause their personality is what eventually decides if i'm attracted to a guy or not: If he's hot, but with a nasty personality - attraction literally goes out the window if he's meh, but with great personality - he suddently appears very hot, physically speaking By great personality I mean have something that's interesting, alluring, exiciting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:21 AM
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Yes, it absolutely can get women's attention. I'm starting to think that some men don't understand what having a good personality means. It means there's something interesting, exiciting and alluring about you that makes people want to be around you and get to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:08 AM
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I keep saying this exact same thing. There was a user here who once said Red Pill is just Blue Pill but for autists and I think it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:53 PM
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Exactly. We really underestimate the effect of our environment. Humans are highly adaptive and maleable. For instance, some here believe that women are hard-wired to be with one super high-quality "Alfa male" and are inherently submissive and family oriented, but then in the same breath say that women today are unruly child-free boss babes who like to ride the cock carousel forver with sketchy dudes just because they can. Like, these beliefs contradict each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:55 AM
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I can't believe you wrote this comment and not think for one second that you are doing exactly the opposite: generalising all womenkind based a few unhinged examples. I think you should follow your own advice and ask any woman in real life what she cares about in a man. Oh, and also go touch grass 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:10 PM
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Damn, this is sad. I hope you overcome this and learn to believe that you are valuable just as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:26 PM
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Wouldn't you rather just not crave it? Of course, but that's not what we're debating here. You said that sex doesn't give men any benefits. I said it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:21 AM
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I don't care what anybody says, but the woman was very cute and the guys were very handsome and nice. To me it makes sense that they "matched".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:11 PM
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"Homeless? Just buy a house!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:58 PM
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Yeah, I don't buy it. You said it yourself, sex is what scratches the annoying itch, so there's your benefit. You are not itchy anymore. Also try NOT having sex or any kind of intimacy for 1 year and then we'll talk about how equally desired, valued and peacefull you feel. Sex is only a problem when it's bad or non-existing. People who are regularly having it don't think much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:43 AM
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I've had "orbiters", but they never sticked around more than 2 weeks because I would slip into our conversation bits about my boyfriend of many years. I honestly thought that they wanted to friends, but they'd dissapear once they found out about my relationship status. Kinda sad though...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:42 PM
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Yes, that is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:47 PM
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Dude, come on. You know that having sex gives men benefits: an increased self-esteem, a sense of self-worth, feeling valued and desired, having peace of mind that somebody found you attractive, a relaxed mind and body, maybe the promise of a child (the biological reason). Are these not benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:06 AM
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Exactly. Men and women have different problems. Men struggle with dating, women struggle with safety and getting the respect and recognition in the professional world. But some guys here only view the world through a sex lense, so obviously they're gonna think that women's lives are magnitudes times better just cause they can have all the sex (that women actually don't want).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:56 AM
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Yes, absolutely, the truth is in the middle. I was more baffled by the fact that the guy was 100% ONLY doing it for women or at least believing he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:19 AM
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Indeed. I remember being quite baffled by a commenter here who said something along the lines of "Can you believe women actually say they want to look good for themselves? What a load of bullshit! If I didn’t have to impress women, i wouldn't do a single thing for improvement". So, yeah, I guess there are people out there like this...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:04 AM
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What a reasonable spot on take. Unexpected for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:57 AM
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Then I hope you go ahead with this. I really think it would help men a lot. Good luck ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:38 AM
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Why would this be ilegal? I'm very confused right now. Men are people. People meeting up, talking and being supportive of each other is what friends do and it’s totally legal. A while back, my husband made a pact with his guy friends to have a meeting online once a week and discuss about how each of them are doing and how they are progressing on their path to their dreams. He said it was amazing and felt very motivated. Nobody arrested him 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:27 PM
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I always think about how if men had the same number of options on Tinder as women, they too would start filtering somehow, like going only super young or only C cup and above, even though IRL they wouldn't pass on other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:16 PM
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I'll start. I absolutely agree that on average men have a significantly higher sex drive than women, which makes things difficult for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:40 PM
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I don't think this is enough. We have 2 years paid maternity/paternity leave and free community daycare & kindergarten in my country, but women aren't having more children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:34 PM
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You are also taking half of her stuff THANK YOU! Many men seem to conveniently forget this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:55 PM
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That's a good point. Flamboyant gay men just match female energy and they're fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:18 AM
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Nah, I'm good. I'm married lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 07:26 AM
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I've never been on dating apps, but all these guys look great and they were very nice. Very interesting experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:23 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:35 AM
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There was a post here claiming that "men don't actually want to fuck anything" and a lot (if not most) men in the comments were like "but it's true tho". I think this mentality is primarily propagated by men who don't have any experience and thus imagine that they would indeed fuck any woman, with no standard whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:33 AM
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Right? I am personaly attracted to faces that seem to belong to good people, chill and fun to be around. Those top dudes look way too dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:59 PM
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He's definitely considered above average where i'm from. Very cute, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:33 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree! I also think the "that's why women chose the bear" gets thrown around too casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:27 PM
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That's very wholesome and mature of you, but I have rarely met red pill guys who don't hate on women or their body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:59 AM
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Completely agree. Whenever i see guys here complaining about how all women wear only skimpy clothes and tons of makeup, who only like to party drink, travel and spend money, it's just obvious that they're only interested in insta thots. Also, I'm not into traditional gender roles myself, but there was a user here with the flair "An actual traditional man" and I liked his comments. So I agree with that part too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:40 PM
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You giving up the pussy has no negative barring on his opinion of you. Only if she's "giving it" to you cause if she's giving it up to some other guy, then the negative opinions come pouring down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:25 PM
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🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:30 PM
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I think he's trying to do a role reversal, presumably about how beta bux guys do all the chores, bring all the money, spoil the woman, and she cheats on him with or without his knowledge. Another unhinged chronically online take, let's all move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:24 PM
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OP literally said in the post that: White men are trying to replace white women with Asian women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:21 AM
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This sounds like you watched some trad-wife videos online and decided it was reality. If it was indeed like that, then feminism wouldn't have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:42 AM
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This isn't a dating sub. This is a sub to debate inter sexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:21 AM
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Ok, but where are the dads? Don't they raise their sons as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:20 PM
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I think it does, although it is still controversial. A lot of what Dr Mew said in the begining found it's way into modern ortodonthics, like tongue resting position, chewing hard stuff being important, trying to widen the palate instead of just pulling out teeth and making them straight etc. There's also a subreddit dedicated to it and some results are absolutely wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:15 PM
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I know right? It's like they're making a case for Chad: he's just like the other guys, but hot and honest!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:40 AM
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Choosing... [checks notes] a guy who seemed nice, friendly, a good listener, respectful and there for her who didn’t show any red flag for months (right up until sex happend). Please tell me THE EXACT type of guy you think women should go after.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:57 AM
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He was wrong when he ghosted without any explanation immediately after. He could have said "Hey, listen, after last night I realised we aren't sexually compatibile, so I think it's best that we stop right here". Can't imagine anyone preferring 2 stupid excuses and then not answering any calls or texts over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:50 AM
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Idk, I think a desperate man would have sticked around, not invest months only to leave after getting what he actually wanted, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:37 AM
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It's not. It's shit behaviour whoever does it, but especially in a situation like the original commenter described, where they seemed to have a relationship for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:30 AM
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But we're not talking about first dates here. We're talking about what seemed like a relationship spanning over months which immediately stopped after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:25 AM
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If it's also after months of building a connection, then it's the same asshole trash behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:21 AM
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Because she wasn't in it just for sex. She thought they had something more. It's no big deal only when you aren't that emotionally invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:35 PM
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I am more baffled by those who have the exact same preference as when they were teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:46 PM
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It's ok to change your mind, just provide closure to the other person. It's an asshole move and extremely disrespectful to ghost someone abruptly immediately after sex, after building a connection with them over the course of MONTHS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:41 PM
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This infuriates me. How can a guy put so much effort over days and weeks, months even, just for one sexual encounter? It boggles my mind. Hope you're ok now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:27 PM
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A great comparison. To the top with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:17 PM
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"Witholding" implies that women would like and want to give men affection, but they restrain themselves for some reason. What reason is that? And why would women be affectionated towards random strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:04 PM
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This is so far removed from reality, like I can't... sure there may be some absolute trash women out there who hate their own sons because they're male, but come on dude, you're making crass generalisations based on an abysmal percentage of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:30 PM
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He's the only person I know that claims to be conservative, that's why I mentioned him. The other people I know are either liberal or centrists or libertarian or not into labeling themselves as anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:06 AM
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I agree. A lot of people are confused about what masculinity even is. The only conservative guy I know is very into traditional gender roles, doesn't cook, demands meat at every meal, is very agressive and patronizing when speaking, very easily triggered, doesn't even accept his boys wearing the color red, pro-Trump, anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-lgbt, religious etc. He also cannot hold down a job. He was unemployed for like 1.5 years. His wife also doesn't work, so I have no idea how they went b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:17 AM
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Yeah no, I get how these could be used as manipulation tactics. Similar to how men use negging. But the phrasing was still kinda funny, not women manipulating men to get money or services from them, but manipulating men to be treated well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:09 PM
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My favourite is Have women tried to manipulate you to [..] treat them well by saying these things? I actually laughed. "Men, have you ever been manipulated so that you actually give a damn about your date? Ntz ntz, these sneaky women, wanting to be treated nice and shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:34 PM
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I know, i'm just pointing out the inconsistency. It's the same variables: - lack of physical attraction from her - desire to get in on the money - if divorce happens, she gets tons of money - probability of enthusiastic sex is pretty low BUT: - If the woman is young and hot - good for him, what an inspiration, something men look up to - If she's average - bad golddinging bitch, poor guy he doesn't deserve this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:26 PM
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Okay, but aren't you guys gonna say that she isn't "viscerally attracted" to him and that she only wants to take his resources and will probably avoid (or not enjoy) sex with him cause she feels no physical attraction? I honestly don't get you guys...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:45 AM
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Every damn time someone talks about women who go for "apparent losers" because they actually love them, you guys answer "yeah, well it doesn't count cause surely she's not hot". So why don't you be honest, and admit that it doesn't matter to you what women on average do, it only matters to you what certain hot young women (perhaps celebrities) do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:35 AM
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The absurdity is hilarious. I enjoy reading your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:03 PM
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Finally someone who understands!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:56 PM
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😆
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:32 PM
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How they think. People that have bad thoughts can act nice, but it rarely works the other way around: having nice thoughts but acting like asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:18 PM
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In which animal species is rape normal? Just to answer this question: in ducks. It's actually quite crazy. Because rape occurs so often, the female ducks have evolved a long maze-like vaginal canal to make it harder for the rapists, but in turn, the male ducks evolved extremely long penises which go hard in a like a second. There's also gang rape in ducks... I really wish I didn’t know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:22 AM
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I am fascinated by the fact that men here are scared that their women might be thinking about fucking Chad, but masturbating while imagining that Chad is actually doing the fucking is super duper A-ok, perfectly fine, good for you honey. How can it be fine when your partner looks at other women and imagines himself with another woman? But to answer your question, I don't really understand why someone needs something to jerk off to. Why do you have to imagine someone else touching your penis? I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:51 PM
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I'd care if he needs any kind of images of other women to get off, even in imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:37 AM
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I'd only care if there was porn involved. If not, good for him!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:31 AM
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Really the only benefit for women I see in polygamy is that the other wives help with the kids and chores and you could be friends with them. But that's like saying "well, at least the cage is made of gold".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:56 PM
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Yes, I suppose that could work, but most people use Ozempic cause they can't or don't want to change their diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:55 PM
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Ozempic isn't gonna make a swimsuit model out of an overweight person. It has effects up to 10-15% of body weight, then it reaches a plateau and the patient doesn't loose weight anymore. This drop still significantly improves health, but it's not what people imagine, that you go as low as you want. Source: my husband prescribes Ozempic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:05 PM
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I think that the ideal is that he gets the final decision making authority, and with that authority comes the responsibility for dealing with the consequences of that decision What if he decides on something that isn't even his responsibility? For example, my husband wanted us to permanently move to a shit city because that would have meant more money, but he 100% was NOT going to deal with the consequences of all or 3 kids living a worse life there (they have to adapt to the new place, no frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:50 AM
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I remember when I was about 6 years old, my dad was talking to me about something and simultaneously flipping through the TV channels when suddenly a sexy woman appeared on screen who just let her top fall down. He stopped speaking to me and just oogled at the tv. I was just standing there embarrassed specifically thinking "yo, remember me? I'm still here... and I shouldn't be watching this". I was amazed that this took away his focus and concentration so much that he forgot I was in the room wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:52 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:46 AM
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I agree. Sex is only a problem when it's not a fulfilled desire. Similar to how no one would say that water is the most important thing in their life, but when you're thirsty and dehydrated as hell, it definitely becomes the only thing you think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:38 AM
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That's extremely reductive. It's like saying "women don't have anything to offer men except their bodies".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:09 AM
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Yes, personality is not that maleable, but we're literally telling you: "well, if you ain't got looks, then you can succeed with your personality". And you're like "but what if the personality is also shit". Well then, I'm not really sure what you expect. You have to have at least one attractive trait about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:09 PM
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Come on, if a guy with this exact face would be getting laid all the time, most guys here would say he's a Chad. But he wasn't getting laid, so you have to say he's ugly. He had the hunter eyes, the jawline, good skin, had money and arguably some status too. That's most things guys here say you need to be considered attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:03 PM
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women reproduce asexually Also checks out with the 100% PROVEN FACT that women are basically asexual beings ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:21 PM
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Here's a hug, OP! Anyone that hates on victims of any kind is a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:13 PM
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If the submissive types give consent to be lead by the leaders and are respected and appreciated as valuable people, sure. But not all women are submissive and not all men are leaders, and it’s wrong to assume gender roles solely based on the gender of the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:04 AM
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Yes you could say that, but being in charge doesn't mean you have to walk all over the other person or remove their autonomy and choices or expect them to always be submissive. All people should have the same rights and opportunities without judgement. From there, they can live the life they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:10 AM
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I've always looked younger and I have a positive bubbly personality, so you can imagine people didn’t take me seriously because they thought i was naive. I think around 24 is when I was started to consistently be treated as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:04 AM
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I would not say impossible, but women are women, they don't have the same needs and desires that men do. So, even if they had power, they will not act like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:55 AM
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It seems that you believe that if women gained more power, they would start to behave like men do: hit on men all the time, give them free sex (?), want to be a provider and lead and men would be submissive little flowers. That's not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:20 AM
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Thank you. "I am very faithful and loyal because I have no one to cheat with" is not the honorable trait these guys think it is. Not to mention that the whole "Men with options are cheating assholes" is incredibly toxic and reductive of men, it's basically saying that men have no inherent loyalty and good character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:30 AM
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Chris Rock once said a man is only as faithful as his options. And you also believe this? This is incredibly insulting to men, it's reducing them to a brainless animal who cares about nothing but mating. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:23 AM
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I've never met a single man in real life who wanted a virgin. I sometimes tell my husband about the weird shit I find on this sub and when I told him a lot of PPD men want virgins even if they're not virgins themselves, he just said "but, why?" with a confused face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:37 PM
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I accept it, just don't claim that the ick comes from the fact that it's easier, cause it's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:55 PM
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I've heard this reason before and I think it's ridiculous and frankly not the real reason for this preference. If you both have a body count of 3, why is she "worse" than you? For an ultimate Chad it's waaay easier to get sex than for an average woman, yet nobody expects him to be a virgin. Do you disrespect and shame ultimate-Chad because he's not a virgin? Do you consider him "used goods"? No, because it has nothing to do with things being easier or harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:28 PM
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When pursuing a woman for something other than a friendship, i hope you see there's a difference between saying: "There's always a sexual element present" - what you said and "There's no other element, it's just the sexual one" - what the other commenter said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:46 AM
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tradcon wet dream* Tradcon, TRP - potato, potato. Not much difference on this sub. Do people irl take you seriously? Yes. Anyway, it depends entirely on topic. Of course. But OP wants to know how valuable a comment is, based on how the woman looks. Weird and kinda gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:56 AM
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If they're also a virgin themself, it's totally reasonable. If not, it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:52 AM
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So men here can judge the opinion of women based on how they look? No thanks. But I'm actually curious to see how that would influence the replies I get. I'm 5'2, 98 lbs, mid 30s but i look much younger, married as a virgin to the only man I ever loved since we were both 21/22, 3 kids, and we've always had sex 2-3 times a week. Basically the red pillers wet dream. Are PPD men gonna take me seriously now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:15 AM
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no man No man? Speak for yourself, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:52 AM
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😆
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:25 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:09 PM
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These are my responses as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:37 AM
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I'm curious what kind of woman falls for this type of behaviour...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:25 AM
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Another one of my favorites: "Choose a below average guy, he will never cheat because he won't have any options." So, the only reason he won't cheat is because nobody would choose him for an affair, not because he wouldn't want to cheat or that he's a good, loyal man at heart... And the only reason Chad cheats is because he has options. Sounds like these men think male sexuality inherently includes cheating. Misandrist to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:15 AM
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I liked it, but I'm into stuff about broken/dysfunctional people and/or psychopaths. That's also why i'm on this sub 🤷‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:41 PM
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I watched "Baby Reindeer" this week. Amazing amd i recommend it. But man, I just couldn't take my eyes off Nava Mau who plays the trans girlfriend, she's so feminine and electrifying. Apparently she's trans IRL as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:20 PM
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100% agree. I know the opinions of this sub in no way represent the opinion of most men IRL (or most women). But it's still to hear that some men here would rather have women stripped of basic human rights if it meant they got laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:10 PM
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Or any rights. A lot of men on this sub constantly say that feminism was a mistake, giving women rights was a mistake, equality is wrong, we should head back to the good old days when women depended on men, even going as far as saying that men can take away women's rights in a heartbeat and that women should be grateful that men are "letting" women have rights...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:29 AM
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Lol, who was this guy? What did he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:53 PM
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"If your dad hit you and you didn’t abandon him as a child, then why would you divorce your husband for also doing it?" That's what I got from this post...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:24 AM
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Listen OP, this type of thinking comes from the belief that male sexuality is the default/normal sexuality. Please understand that female sexuality is different. Most men's sexuality is more visual, straightforward, streamline and spontaneous. Most women's sexuality is more psychological, contextual, responsive, and much more easily inhibited. This doesn't mean women are asexual or don't like sex, it just means it's different. Women make up 50% of the population so there's no right or wrong here…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:18 AM
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I think most of them don't want to do it because it's more associated with women, so undesirable for a man. That's not what they say though. They could say "I wouldn't want that, but good for you man", but instead they stay "so basically you're treated like rag, got it". I wish I would have saved comments like this as proof. At the same time a lot of men believe that staying at home with the kids is the easiest thing in the world, that all chores get done in 30 minutes, that the mental load is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:57 AM
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I agree with your post, OP. If women felt that they were respected and appreciated for their feminine qualities and contribution to society, they would be truer to themselves and femininity would bloom within us. But unfortunately i feel that we're not being respected or taken seriously unless we do the same things men do. So now we're trying to prove that we can do those things and therefore deserve respect and appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:35 PM
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What you say is technicaly true, but whenever there's talk about a man staying at home with the kids and/or the woman being the lead of the relationship, a lot of men go "nah, i'm not gonna let a woman disrespect me like that and walk all over me, like i'm some slave". This shows that a lot of men do think that being submissive means being inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:23 PM
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This makes me sick. Poor boys haven't been born yet and are already assumed to be the worse by this horribly sexist woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 09:28 AM
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So that it doesn't become a "hate your opposite gender at all costs" sub. And on this thread men can hear some compliments too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:03 AM
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I feel like men are a calming presence, they're chill and don't over-dramatise stuff, they take things as they are, are more honest and don't hold on to grudges. If i'm having some issues, men can just dissipate my worries within seconds in a brutal way like "if it works it works, but if it doesn't the worse thing that could happen is X, Y, Z, so pull yourself together cause it's not that bad". Women usually like to dig deeper when talking about problems, which also is very helpful, but sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:49 AM
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That's a very... bold statement. Do you believe single men over 40 have a much more interesting life than single women over 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:04 PM
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So these 3 great men wonder why women weren't more like men in a time when women were not allowed to do anything else but domestic duties + child rearing and a lot of times didn’t even have access to education? Really puzzling indeed...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:57 PM
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Wow, you are really going out of your way with cherry picking your quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:38 PM
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I did not expect such a wholesome comment on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:38 AM
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How on earth did you come to this conclusion? I assume we've read the same post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:29 AM
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Emotional maturity in men is very important to most women because men are much stronger and more violence-prone. An emotionally unstable man who bursts in rage at little things is going to be very dangerous to his woman partner so this behaviour is extremely off putting. Think incels who go on angry rand just because a woman didn’t notice them pass by. This doesn't mean men must bottle up their emotions, cause I see guys on this thread still don't understand the difference. It means that you exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:26 AM
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Yeah, I've read so much crazy shit here, it's truly fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:29 PM
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Ah, I now see where all this is coming from. Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:37 PM
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My husband goes on work trips all the time. His work field is almost entirely female dominated so he has every opportunity to cheat on me there, especially since he's very charismatic. Should I have not "let" him go? I was under the impression that relationships are built on mutual trust and attraction, not on restricting your partner's life so they don't go wild when meeting other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 05:31 PM
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If I also feel loved, desired and connected with my partner, then everyday / every other day. If I don't have those, I really can't say since my drive is almost entirely responsive/contextual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:33 AM
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This is such a funny post 😆 Women: why can't men see us as human beings? OP: why can't women see that we're animals?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:16 AM
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This is a pretty good summary, not gonna lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:46 AM
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So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:20 PM
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No, but there are many men like this on this sub that sometimes I have to wonder if I just live in a happy bubble IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:48 AM
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No. I was just pointing out how wildly different are men's views on this sub and that it's hard to make generalised observations like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:35 AM
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How is this related to what we were discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:22 AM
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Idk, from my experience the bigger the house the emptier it is. Richer people are more educated which in turn have fewer kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:07 AM
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I had to convert 1900 sqft to see how small you're talking and god damn, if 176 sqm is small, then all Europeans are living in shoe boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:09 AM
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Same. He's one of my favourite users here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:52 AM
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A different guy here said that if a man doesn't commit it's ONLY because the woman isn't hot enough 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:20 PM
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Most men prefer to slave away at a job instead of spending time with their kids. My husband for instance would literally prefer to do any chore in the house but stay with our toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:01 AM
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Like I said, guys with high n counts are some of the most chill non-judgemental people in this regard. All this talk about "I only care if i'm her first" is really an argument against choosing them. I even heard a guy here say that he would value more a single drunken one night stand than all the sex he would have with his wife who chose him as her best partner to have forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:55 AM
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Isn't it crazy that men cheat more even though they have waaay less opportunity to cheat and most can't even get a date (PPD words, not mine)? And women who can basically fall on a dick on every step, cheat less?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:35 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for your input. It's different than what i've read from other men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:19 PM
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A lot of men here complain that women want them for their money or their "man skills", but not for who they are, and I get that. Would you be ok with a woman who felt that your job/money is one of the most important reasons to be with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:12 PM
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This is what I don't understand either. Women in the past needed their partners and had sex out of obligation a lot of the times. I've heard it from actual women around me and from documentaries from my country. Does this mean the men were desired back then? Cause today women who marry out of necessity are the biggest turn offs for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:02 PM
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I appreciate this comment. It's pretty rare on this sub to see men who actually care about kids in general, not just their own potential future kids (genetically confirmed as theirs).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:46 PM
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fuck them kids! But also: "the falling birthrates are extremely concerning, 40% of women will be childless by 20XX and that's ruining society" Pick one, people!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:52 PM
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That's why your flair is wrong. You're not a blue pill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:44 PM
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You should correct that flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:25 AM
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Isn't game and frame personality, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:55 PM
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I think this right here is the essence of this reddit community. These men are saying women absolutely hate non-Chads, that they despise short guys and wish that ugly guys to dissapear. Wtf is this? When has a woman ever said anything like this? Women critique men's behaviour, that's for sure, but hating them because of looks and height?? Come on people. It's all derived from "she won't have sex with me, she must viscerally hate me". I even heard "she rejected me, this means she rejects my genes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:26 PM
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He's alright, he's very respectful and harmless actually, we've known each other for like 15 years, he's never crossed a line with anything, but we're good friends and we're pretty honest with each other, so I once saw a post where a man was claiming that apparently "all men are inherently rapists" so i asked how can a person actually be turned on when hurting someone, like how can they have an errection during screams and go on with it. He then said that. It's absolutely messed up, but I take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:28 AM
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Could be, I made that stat up. I'm trying to keep a positive vibe by believing that all women encounter the same few really bad men who ruin everything for the rest of them. Just one gross pervert can create a core memory in tons of women everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:57 PM
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Cause you probably take it for granted, just like women take sexual attention for granted. It doesn't even register as an advantage. For instance, men (and some women also) consider women irational, emotional, ilogical, unreasonable, incapable of higher more complex thinking. They don't take women seriously as proffesionals like they do with men. Men are more likely to be considered professionals, even though they have same expertise as a woman. Women get condesceding replies when they assert a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:48 PM
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It saddens me beyond belief that there so many men who want to see women oppressed again. Do you really just want to go back to women suffering? Things will work out, we just need time to adjust to the changes. I think it's very good that there's a conversation going about men's struggles, but whenever you guys add in the conversation bits about longging after the days when women didn’t have any say, it ruins your chances of your struggles actually being heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:21 PM
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Nah, most men receive respect by default but is taken away if not deserving of it. A woman is considered incapable by default until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:49 PM
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We admire things like kindness. We admire things like emotional intelligence. We want to have things in common. We want to share a connection. Yes most men do. But every woman has 100% encountered that .1% of men who said disrespectful gross things to her while still wanting her sexually just for her body. So this fear doesn't come from anywhere, it's lived experience, which also feeds the fear that assault and pregnancy might happen. I can understand how that’s annoying for women, because it ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:46 PM
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Damn, this just reminded me of a very outspoken direct male friend of mine who said that he gets the allure of raping a woman, just getting what he wants, when he wants it, without needing to supress himself, feeling în complete control...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:16 PM
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Most men experience being respected and valued just for their skills and accomplishments, most women don't. I know this is a relationship/dating site, but you have no idea how much this affects the lives of women. Just like women have no idea about how much men are affected by not being sexually desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:10 PM
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I feel you. I started walking hunched at 11 just cause I didn’t want men to see my boobs because I received gross comments on them. Those comments made me feel so disgusting and icky. I also liked the winter because I could cover up so that nobody could see on my body. It's hard for men to understand cause this is like their fantasy, being lusted purely over their body. But for us women, it feels very icky and disrespectful. I do not appreciate that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:52 PM
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Do women not enjoy being desired or attractive just for being a woman? No. What i've learned here on this sub is that men long to be desired and perceived attractive for their bodies and they see it as a great advantage to being a woman. Women don't see it like this because we always get the feeling of being lusted over their bodies, by anyone anywhere, but at the same it's coupled with zero ounces of respect and admiration for our character. Women actually long to be desired for their "other" q…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:41 PM
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Yeah, OP just made this up to mirror the other similar post about why some men ignore facts about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:56 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:52 PM
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Sad. And you wonder why people treat you badly? Nobody likes a bitter depressed person, especially if they've never seen their good parts. You need therapy or something because you only make it worse for yourself. You're digging your own hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:22 AM
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You wanted equality. This is whatnit looks like. So equality means men will hate women now? I don't think you should talk on behalf of other men. Most men, at least IRL, are awesome and supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:46 AM
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100%. They say they care about birth rates, then they shame single mothers and talk about the kids that aren't theirs with words like "another man's orgams", "another dude's spawn", crotch goblin etc. All this alongside the never ending discussion that only women should take care of the kids. Yep, totally sounds like they're worried about "the birth rates" 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:10 PM
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70% who do orgasm from PiV But it's a very VERY big difference between theoretically being able to orgasm from PIV and realistically having that happen. It only happened twice in all my years of having sex. And it was because my partner used numbing cream and kept going a certain angle for like 20 minutes straight. That's not your everyday run of the mill sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:19 PM
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Why yes, the only reason why a man would make a progressive anonymus comment on Reddit, is because he hopes to get laid. On Reddit, on a sub where everyone hates eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:53 PM
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Why do you guys do this? Insult a man you don't agree with not by attacking his arguments, but by saying his gay, low-T, weak, a simp, a soy boy, a white knight, not a real man? Do you understand you are perpetuating the same stereotypes you most likely also complain about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:28 PM
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Ok, that was so unexpected 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:55 PM
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I'm not laughing, cause i don't like groping jokes on any gender. And by genders reversed, do you mean if a woman would grope a guy for minutes on end, even when the clips are showing on screen for the audience, only for another guy from the audience to come in and grope the woman to make her stop? Yeah, still sounds like a comedic bit that turned awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:18 PM
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Nevermind, i just found out: “He did this vice grip on her breast, and I was like, OK, it was funny for like a second. But then it kept going and going and going. And then the lights went down and the clip started rolling and he was still vice-gripping her! I was sitting there with my fork like, ‘If he doesn’t stop, I’m going to stab him with my fork.’ ” Rudd didn’t remove his hand, so Dawson went into action. “I got up there and I stabbed him with my fork,” she says. “He didn’t stop, so I was l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:40 AM
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Oh, so it was a comedic bit? Cause that first image really scared me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:39 AM
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And here we go again with random misandry from men. "Are you even a real man bro, if you [shuffles cards]... are politically progressive?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:40 AM
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What? So let me get this straight. If I'm not willing to let go of the freedom of women everywhere, then this means I don't care about men's loneliness? It's like saying: if you don't give away all your money to poor people then you don't give a fuck about poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:04 AM
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I believe you ❤️. Something like this happened to me too. I was once out doing errands with my baby in a wrap and I had a pretty hard stressful day. I frankly looked like shit. I was passing through a park when some friends waved at me, so I went to say hi, still very much stressed out and zoomed out. They were with some other guy and they introduced us. This new guy, he shook my hand, looking me in the eyes with warmest smile and he said "Nice to meet you, [Name]". I don't know what happened bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:58 AM
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I care about that. I mean for millenia women have been suffering in silence and I appreciate the fact that men (finally) cared enough to go on-board with equality. However this new problem of lonely men is difficult to solve because it's apparent solutions contradict women's freedom to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 06:31 AM
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Companionship, support, love, care etc etc. The same things men offer women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:41 PM
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The hell?? No, absolutely not. Guys who starr useless fights don't seem safe to be around and also seem kinda dumb to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:34 PM
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If you think that 95% of all women only have a vagina to offer, then I don't know what to tell you dude, you'll keep losing "the game".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:20 PM
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That's so sweet. I feel the same around a good man who is grounded in who he is as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:58 PM
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Interesting. Because lots of guys here say they have basically zero standards which think is virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:47 PM
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This argument only stands if a woman goes around making men bankrupt and then claims she wants a rich guy. Exactly this plus she'd also shame and insult bankrupt men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:40 PM
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"cum extractors" Dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:23 PM
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At first I thought OP was doing a sarcastic bit, but seems they are legit. Fascinating behaviour!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:26 AM
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5 minutes? Do you actually wash them properly? There's no way that a day of dishes for an entire family would take 5 minutes. 5 minutes to wipe down the counters afterwards maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:56 AM
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Thank you for this comment. I think only people who don't have kids or are not actually involved in the lives of their kids are the ones severly underestimating childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:41 AM
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If your argument is that women shouldn't be having sex before marriage then I'm not engaging in this debate, this speaking as a woman who actually married as a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:49 AM
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A woman makes a choice to be a slut when she sleeps with Bernie who manipulated her into thinking he wants a relationship with her? Interesting... Men aren’t forced to be in relationships with you This I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:28 AM
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I agree with you on this. It takes just 2 guys to act like Bernie for a woman to be completely ruled out as an option for a lot of guys or for them to say "well, you had sex with him fairly quickly, now you are obligated to NOT learn from that experience and continue to have sex within the exact same tine-frame FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, otherwise it's not fair for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:51 PM
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Jesus... I'm so sorry. To hell with these women. They don't deserve you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:41 AM
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Same. I have never, not once in my life felt sexual attraction towards a man without getting to know him first and it still went hand in hand with wanting a relationship as well. Deeming someone as "just for sex"? Never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:26 AM
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Well, if as a man you don't need to worry about most things related to the household or the kids (maybe you don't even register them to be things that need to be done), it's because a woman is thinking and doing those things. You can check this list for examples of the "dad privilege", possible only because the mental load falls on the woman: https://zawn.substack.com/p/the-dad-privilege-checklist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:10 AM
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Yeah, I heard. A cuck but also apparently a low-T weak un-real (perhaps even trans) man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:50 PM
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Some men in the comments are actually unironically saying "well if you don't want to fuck any woman with a pulse, are you even a real man, bro?".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:41 PM
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Not sure men here are ready for the wisdom from your last sentece.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:15 AM
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This is a good, sensible comment. Too bad the only replies are "no, because sex". Ironically, doing the things in your comment will actually generate more sexual attention than otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:08 AM
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Looking at the comments I am so happy i'm not dating in this day and age. I just can't imagine first having sex, then deciding if i actually like that person enough for a relationship or not. It's just backwards for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:44 AM
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It matters because as long as you've got something about you that is interesting, then you've got a chance. If you've got nothing (no looks, not charming, not funny, no interesting hobbies, no skills, no passion for anything) then yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. And you can control your looks and all the rest at least to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:14 AM
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Yes, exactly! But i'm already being downvoted so I guess some men don't like the good news that you're not doomed as a man for being average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:41 PM
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The fact that men think looks are everything (cause that's how it works for them) together with the fact that looks are right there on your face, not discovered like personality, together with the fact that most men appear neutral to most women (at first sight), results in men thinking that women ONLY ever feel attracted to very handsome guys. Which is completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:07 PM
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And not to mention TRP convinced some men of some of the most horrid stuff: that women don't have emotions, that women aren't capable of love, that women only want men because they're usefull, that women can't wait to take your money, that women will cheat the exact moment a better man appears, that women will divorce you cause they're bored etc. These men are absolutely devasted and their chance at happiness and trusting women was crushed maybe forever because of these lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:16 PM
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This is the most wholesome, reasonable take I have read from a red-piller on this sub maybe ever. I love your last sentece, especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:44 AM
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And it starts young too... In highschool during a break, two classmates of mine were caught kissing on the hallway by a teacher. The teacher heavily lectured the girl making her cry and that evening they also went on to call the girl's mother to talk about her completely inappropriate behavior during school. The guy, who also participated in the kiss... well nobody said anything to him and no one called his parents. Nothing...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:23 PM
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Agreed. And the whole alpha vs beta, real man vs weak cuck and striving to dominate women or other men. Absolutely horrid to talk like that about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:03 PM
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Me too. Except for the first 2 answers on the women's side, I also don't see much difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:59 PM
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Some guys here really do a diservice to men by spouting the most degrading shit, like men are some brainless animals controlled completely by their penis. Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:31 PM
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Damn, so some cultures actually do this? This is like in the Midsommar movie, where a girl puts some of her menstrual blood in the drink of this foreign guy so he falls for her. She also puts some of her pubes in his food, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:03 AM
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why do you throw up metaphorical hands when someone refers to themselves as an "egalitarian" instead of a "feminist" I don't. I actually really like the term "egalitarian" and I tend to use it more especially because people like you believe that feminist means man-hating radfems. They're not exactly synonyms, because feminist implies that you want women to have same rights and opportunities as men, while egalitarian implies men and women should both have the same rights and opportunities. It's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:00 AM
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When men bitch about feminism they actually bitch about man-hating radfems. Almost everybody is a feminist nowadays, including men if we go by the dictionary definition: "feminism" noun the belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power, and opportunities as men and be treated in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:06 PM
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But of course this happens! They earn substantially less then married men because they have kids and have to put their career on the backburner for years after each kid. Me and my husband have 3 kids. You have no idea how much this affects your career. Just before we had a condom failure and I got pregnant with our third, I was considered for a managerial position in the future. 2 years later, I come back from maternal leave and my colleague was just appointed manager. She deserves it of course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:42 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:07 PM
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I don't think it's a black and white situation. One can improve and also try going on dates once in a while. I personally think the most important thing for young men is socializing and having good friends of both genders. This will help them tremendously with not feeling lonely and with demistifying women and it also creates romantic opportunities organically. The list is pretty good, but i don't see why number b) is a bad thing or how it's proof these women aren't wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:31 PM
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I guess we do, in that younger women and older men are the most desirable categories. But I don't think younger men should deliberately stay single in order to work on themselves, nor that single woman aren't wife material just cause they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:16 PM
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"Capable, mature and successful" is also part of who those men are 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:15 PM
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No. Physical and sexual attraction come from more than just looks for women. You just don't understand it because you are a man and looks is everything for you. But ok, if you feel better about yourself completely disregarding how a woman experiences sexual attraction, then fine. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:34 AM
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That's because attraction is different for women. I will not deny that most men are neutral for me. Neutral, not unattractive or ugly. Just regular normal people. But once a guy talks and I get a glimpse of who he is, that's when attraction starts to build. It's like "Oh, he now has my attention. Let me see what else is interesting about him". With hot guys it's: "He has my attention cause he's handsome. Let me see if he's also interesting". Attraction can grow or diminish in both depending on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:50 AM
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I've said it multiple times that men are more impressed by their exes than women. So I wish everyone would just shut up about the alpha-widow and pair-bonding bullshit. It seems these apply more to men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:38 AM
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Are these lyrics to a song?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:14 AM
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Post-Wall women who date previously looked over men will never be able to prove they love these men. You know, I turn this around on men too: Older men who date younger women will never be able to prove to them that they love these women "for who they are" and not for being younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:00 AM
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Well done 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:16 PM
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Not that you should expect to held accountable for the time he's spent trying to find other people. Glad you said this because it sounded like you're saying that any effort done by a man towards other women counts as effort done towards the one woman that actually picked him. I get what you're saying, I really do and i empathize, but doing a 180 on effort once the relationship is established isn't the best way to keep her around and it also probably propagates the "the bar is on the floor" meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:47 AM
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That's a pretty gross way of looking at it. I can also say: "Men are the ones who want sex, so the sex life of the relationship is solely HIS responsibility. If she doesn't want sex then it's his fault. What do women get from having sex with their partner as opposed to flings? In fact they only have stuff to lose: they have to cook, clean and manage the emotions of insecure men while loosing the freedom." If men don't want to be in a comitted relationship, then don't be. Don't expect to be convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:33 AM
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Yes, I agree with everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:49 PM
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Men not putting enough effort into a relationship that can last years isn't really leveling the overall effort from the several weeks of dating prior to commitment. But I 100% agree that women should match the effort of the guy in the dating stage and should absolutely split the pay. I would actually advise men to not pursue a woman that doesn't match his effort and enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:47 AM
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Yes, I feel like this is the answer. I feel like men have to put in a lot of effort into the dating phases, but once they're in, women put in more effort into the relationship. And they sometimes find themselves in relationships with men who don't wash properly or can't cook a single meal (things women figure out later about their partner) so they say "the bar is on the floor". It's a shitty and unfair phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:45 AM
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Ok, but I think people are confused because what you say is still pretty vague. I don't understand what would men want to express but are not allowed to express sexually (within the reasonable limits you mentioned). Give me just one example, from your own life for instance, i'm not trolling, i'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:19 PM
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I want to know the answer to this too. So far, your body isn't you, your job isn't you, what you say and do isn't you, your personality isn't you. What is there left?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:12 PM
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Can you give some concrete examples of what you mean? Because sex requires 2 people and if male sexuality would mean to have sex with a different woman everyday, then there's no way for a man to be living his true "male sexuality" because he needs women to get on board.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:56 AM
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It's halo effect Thanks for correcting. I'm not a native speaker. A transexual is not a heterosexual person and it's experiences are not comparable. It's the closest thing we've got to see how different hormones impact people. Guys here always make the argument of ftm people describing how much hornier they are as a man and it’s been helpful for me in understanding men. It's not my function to make arguments in your behalf You stated that most women aren't attracted to their partners without pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:26 PM
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Not really, https://imgur.com/PXOWIMX. I'm not disputing the hallow effect. What i'm saying is that of course most women won't feel anything if shown just a damn picture. People transitioning from male to female have expressed that the way they experience attraction has changed drastically, that it's more encompasing and mentally tuned. FtM people have described the opposite, that they started to be much more visual and basically attracted to body parts, that sometimes a tree that looks like boo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:15 PM
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Yes, of course. More then "some".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:41 PM
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No. That stat isn't saying what you think it's saying. Women just need more than just a stale picture of a guy to be attracted to him. "Average" men are doing just fine when women get to know them beyond a picture. Most women are in fact attracted to their partners and it’s sad that you guys keep looking at this whole situation with male goggles where looks is all there is when it comes to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:39 PM
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So, you wouldn't care at all if your partner isn't attracted to you at all and is merely having sex with you out of obligation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:48 AM
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Yup, 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:24 AM
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Yes, I had a debate with a guy here a few weeks ago who said that a woman should do all the domestic chores even if she also has a job. So yeah, basically "trad for thee but not for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:50 PM
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I don't know what you were trying to accomplish with this comment, but this puts men in a very bad light. I once had a dream that my husband cheated on me and that he said it meant literally nothing to him. It just happened and shrugged. I felt like someone pushed a knife through my heart and i woke up immediately crying and shaking. I could not look him in the eye that day. It was so real and so painful. I've never experienced that much emotional pain ever in my life. So I would much rather pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:27 PM
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Very good, it's what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:17 PM
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This is a good one. Similarly, men who should diaqualify women that say stuff like "Real men do this" "Why don't you act like a real man?" It's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:48 AM
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I would say this breaks down exactly how women feel as well. If most men are like this, then why are women considered "agressively worried" and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:25 AM
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Oh, you are so right. I forgot about this one. It's actually an on-going joke that men believe they can fight better than they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:52 PM
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Are you actually involved in your children's lives? Because from the comment it only seems like you wanted beautiful kids to be legal heirs to your wealth, who would also be proof that you reproduce. Very superficial reasons. Idk, everything seems devoid of emotion for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:42 PM
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I always appreciate your thoughts on this. A lot of men in this subreddit are under the impression that women feel and think exactly like they do and therefore experience this huge priviledge and power in the dating world. But it doesn't feels like this at all. It's like someone being jealous of you for something you don't even want and getting super mad at you. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:30 PM
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Then why aren't you more wary of other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:12 AM
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A lot of men have been pointing this out, in which case I ask: why aren't men more wary of other men, then? Seems kinda irresponsible. Also, the biggest difference is that women know they almost always lose in such an encounter, while men at least have a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:11 AM
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Well then, i'm gonna turn the question back to you: if you have been constantly pestered by agressive strangers that can overpower you easily, WHY AREN'T you wary of men? Seems like the most reasonable thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:04 AM
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Men size each other all the time and it sucks. By strangers, while minding your own business?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:24 AM
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Because almost all women (while just minding their own business) had encounters with insistent/pushy/mildly-violent men that were "just joking around" and as a woman you get this feeling that men can overpower you very easily and that it can happen anytime. At the same time, almost no man gets a consistent dose of feeling very vulnerable physically, while getting picked on by other bigger and stronger men for no reason at all. It would benefit men a lot if they were as cautious as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:05 AM
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Those examples are hypocritical too. But I have to ask, why would an experienced man even want a virgin woman? Experienced men are some of the most non-judgemental, chill and confident people from a sexuality point of view, and they know first hand that past sexual experiences don't really change anything in a LTR. It's virgin guys who care the most about sexual purity which is understadable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:44 PM
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With very few exceptions, this sub is like a collection of all my fears regarding male sexuality put together and confirmed by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:52 PM
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Yes, I think most women prefer to avoid conflict at their expense, but I never related to the whole "women want men to be mind-readers", because i have always been direct in a nice and polite manner. I relate more to the "I keep saying what i want, but he thinks he knows better" trope. If i'm not fumming, I guess he thinks it's not important enough to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:46 PM
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Right??? My husband whom i live dearly will NOT take my problems seriously unless I start yelling and start a fight after i had enough of asking nicely. I am a very agreable person IRL so maybe he is thinking "well, clearly it's not a big deal, it doesn't bother her that much".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:13 PM
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Kids age you. Smoking, drinking and sun exposure age you. 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:41 AM
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just no... each party has their duties and duties exist to be fulfilled Great! This means you already do your fair share of house chores. No excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:39 AM
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The phrasing is kinda icky "I want sex, so I beter do some dishes". What women want: "I respect and love my wife and we both live in the same place, so I do my fair share of chores cause i'm also responsible for them." A woman who believes her husband is self-sufficient and cares about her well-being is gonna be more attracted to the guy and more relaxed and available sexually. Most women can't have sex when they're stressed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:32 AM
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what in the insider baseball gamer jargon is this post?! For real, what is this talk? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:31 AM
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Thank you for explaining. It's nice to know that your man will always appreciate the casual flings more and that nothing you do as a wife will ever top those, just because he also had to put in some effort for you guys to build together an actual relationship. Sounds like settling to me. Also you guys are wrong about how much lust a woman feels for a ONS. Go to any post about this, it's almost always "I was horny and drunk, this guy was there and I thought why the heck not". It's not about how h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:50 PM
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Yes, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:00 PM
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The difference is that the study said that from all the men, a small percentage of them had doubts about paternity (5% or less if i recall recorrectly). From those 5% of men, 30% of them were right. So it's not 30% of all men, it's 30% out of 5% of all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:24 PM
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It's the difference between 30% and 3.7%.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:21 PM
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No, wanting to be a millionaire doesn't make anyone a bad person. Wanting to sleep around if you are honest about it also doesn't make you a bad person. What makes someone a bad person: If they bitched about how superficial, rotten and corrupted multi-millionaires are (unlike them, the most purest of souls), while the only thing stopping them from being rotten and corrupted is that they lack the power to do so. When they bitch about how sleeping around is the downfall of humanity and Chad is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:48 PM
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It was the male commenter before me that implied that. I was simply answering with "that's doesn't make you better person".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:32 PM
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Then I don't understand how your comment relates to mine. I said that wanting to spin plates and be a player but not having the option doesn't make a man better than the one that does get the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:25 PM
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I don't see how your comment relates to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:55 PM
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I understand this. What I don't understand is why be bitter about older women (who he hasn't met when young) and not about young women, since both theoretically reject the younger guy and go after the older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:54 PM
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Wait, so you agree with me that most men want to spin plates? If yes, then why would women even go after non-Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:49 PM
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Oh my god, this is depressing as hell. So all the effort done for years, FOR DECADES, in which she chose you every single night, as her best option overall, the one she actually wanted, and all the things she does for you during all this time, will never compare to one 3h long casual sex session from some stranger that was most probably just horny and you are at the right place, right time? No, what you are describing is ten times more demeaning to women. I think I need a break from this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:20 AM
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Another example said in this sub: "30% of men are raising kids that aren't theirs". When in fact it's "30% of men WHO HAVE SUSPICIONS about paternity are in fact raising kids that aren't theirs".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:23 AM
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Please, this was the man's game for ages. Only now is the advice starting to appear in women spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:54 AM
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It doesn't comfort me at all that only Chads do this, because the only thing stopping men from doing this is the fact they aren't Chads. That's not honorable or better at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:50 AM
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For real. This was my exact thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:47 AM
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Right. This is my point. Being scared about paternity is NOT an ingrained biological thing. It's the consequence of the current society we live in. I get that men are scared about paternity. Do your tests or whatever, but don't call it a biological thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:44 AM
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Because the man who is the “from now on until eternity” has to put out way more overtime. A child is worth 20k a year. Then college But I thought this is what you guys wanted. A woman that is completely commited to you to start a loving family with. Are you really saying that a woman that wanted a ONS one time with you offered you more than what a wife is offering you? Her companionship, support, commitment, sex, she is sacrificing her body to carry and raise your children and will most likely c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:38 AM
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Yes I can somewhat understand, but you didn’t physically met her then so you don't know for sure. Maybe she would have wanted a fling, or maybe she was after older guys like you are now. Also, younger women would have probably rejected your younger self as well, and/or they're also after older guys, so I really don't understand the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:27 AM
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Even though she would almost certainly rejected you if you were younger? Because that's what the other commenter said it was worse, to not be allowed into the promiscuity club and only getting attention in the late 20s. Aren't the young ladies giving you attention also because you're late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:18 PM
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Ok, but then why go after younger women who would have also most probably rejected his younger self?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:33 PM
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No, I mean everyone raised all the kids and the men brought food to all the kids. Paternity didn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:32 PM
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I still don't get it. Why are you assuming that she doesn't want the same fun with you? It's the opposite, she wants to have all fun ONLY with you from now on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:56 PM
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The village raised the kids and the men hunted to bring food to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:53 PM
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I'd get if it were the same women that once rejected you but now want something serious. But they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:49 PM
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Is anyone here really pretending the consent in paid or unpaid sex is exactly the same? I personally am kinda opposed sex work, and I don't think the consent is the same, but many sex workers see it differently, so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:39 PM
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Most people consent to do all sorts of things for money, like clean toilets all day or go into fires.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:12 PM
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Yes. That's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:06 PM
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No. People sometimes spend money in order to be in the company of someone, for instance inviting your best friends out and paying for their drinks. But you expect more than the company of the woman you asked out. You expect sex in return for the her getting a free drink. Do you realise how entitled you seem? I paid for your drink, now you have to let me penetrate you to make it even.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:27 PM
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Yes, even in early 2000. I think this is why I find it absolutely mind boggling when I hear "if she doesn't have sex with you by the second date, she isn't into you". Like wtf. I'm glad i don't have to date in this day and age. Guys would definitely NOT be happy with how I pace things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:59 AM
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And here it is. You only pay for dates to get sex in return. Money for sex. You probably think you're a selfless nice guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:12 AM
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And also "women should vet better cause they're the ones doing the choosing, but they should also choose more men" 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:07 AM
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