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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQOyXlsoS04 Bill Burr is a classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:19 PM
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Yeah, This is what I always go back to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:18 PM
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a lot of court proceedings (in the US) are recorded and public record, so you may be able to just search your county/city courtcams and watch live, as though you are sitting in court as is your legal right. Since covid many court preceedings are still remote, and uploaded to youtube/online. There are some channels dedicated to family court, but generally for a specific area the channel owner is interested in. Point is, no data here, but having watched these child support almost always come up as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:12 PM
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What if he promised some other thing? He's sterile, vasectomy, "wrong hole", ect.. What if he said it years before they started dating but things changed since then? There are literally infinite ways to lie and mislead. That is why 'he said/she said' is so universally mocked as a legal standard. No sane person wants to go down the path of "anything you say is legally actionable". Cops literally have to warn you about that when you are arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:04 PM
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You should watch courtcams.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:57 PM
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Mate, do you realize the irony of arguing what women 'reveal' about themselves with all this incredibly revealing rant? That said, I am actually curious what you think women reveal in their arguments against passport bros. You never actually mention it. I suppose one line of "how close the man lives" might allude to it but distance is not the argument people make against passport bros, so their is nothing to reveal there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:54 PM
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I think you already answered why this is all nonsense with "The only exception would be if the woman could prove that the man ejaculated in her intentionally after promising to pull out." The rabbit hole of caveats will never end and always rely on 'what was agreed'. Or, we just decide that both parents need to support a child, no matter the circumstances and rather than a rabbit hole of infiinite 'what if's' there are select few ways to give up parental rights, because the responsibilities are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:48 PM
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Nice save.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:42 PM
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What makes it a set of information rather than a set of beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:24 AM
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It's not a set of information. It's an ideology, one that that often very explicitly ignores ethics or social etiquette. Hiding behind the label of 'science' won't change that. It is a set of beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:18 AM
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Context. Your missing context, intentionally if I had to guess. The way you switch around the topic name and content from 'as many women as' to 'as many men as' is a likely indicator if your real motives and beliefs. That man hating women are fact, and woman hating men something you might believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:10 AM
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Its really weird that you would conceive of a world where women don't enjoy sex as the hypothetical where sexual assault no longer exists. It's not even weird in the way I usually see here, It's weird in an entirely different concerning way. Usually it's just "this guys an asshole using 'hypotheticals' to blame women for something". This is like something written by an alien. The two are too closely related to be the random musing 'what if' but not close enough to actually make sense in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:57 AM
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Nope. They just see your every post and comment about women and understand the narrative. I.E. how all the things you say correlate to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:10 PM
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The bluepiller that thinks women are so wonderful they disregard a fair and equal system of justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:15 PM
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Asking a strawman you created why it's a strawman is pretty weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:46 PM
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Then I'll give you the same opportunity. That guy was very explicit about the intent of Dread. "It means to increase the competition anxiety passively." So whatever other reasons a person might have for self improvement, Dread is specific and explicit. Explain to me how it is not manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:01 PM
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Makes sense. Obviously women have more to gain from lying about people you know, because you're the center of the universe, therefore people near you are important. They must be, they know you. All those people that don't know you and you don't know are inconsequential, therefore women have less motivation to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:40 AM
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Yes of course, the 'self-entitlement' of wanting people to call things what they are. Isn't that what you morons are always advocating? blunt direct truth? Guess not when it means pointing out what losers you all are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:36 AM
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There is no 'desirable' alternative to a blatantly sexist moron that is not also blatantly sexist and stupid. It's what you all like so much about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:34 AM
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Right, because we all think that's the entire list of things people should do. 3 things and bam! instant success. Anything less and it was all a lie. Moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:22 AM
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Alright, fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:04 PM
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"When people are held to a higher standard they will experience more inner growth and self awareness." Please. Even the common view of cops and politicians disproves that bullshit. You know that is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:00 PM
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Those assertions are meant to speak in a direct manor that focuses on results, you know, the thing dudes here are constantly insisting they want and is the correct way to view things. If you don't want that fine, but it has been literally what men asked for and given for quite a long time. Blunt, direct, and doesn't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:57 PM
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"Men have always owned up to their flaws as a generality" I think maybe you need to brush up on you history mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:53 PM
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Did you forget that you argue in favor of abortion? This is how I know your opinions are worthless. You don't actually understand or care what your arguing, and certainly don't have an opinion besides "fuck everyone, I know what'll set them off"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:50 PM
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Honestly the mods should just switch this sub to TRP already. The vast majority of posts are just the impotent rage of Tyler Durden wannabe losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:20 PM
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TL;DR: If you're an asshole then I see no reason to not be an asshole based on one singular selfish motivation; getting laid. Ethics are meaningless and without value when you only care about hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:10 PM
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This is kind of amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:05 PM
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Your 16. You don't know shit. Just stop thinking your clever and all is well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:01 PM
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Or your little fantasy doesn't happen. 'This or nothing' is meaningless when you don't actually have the power to enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:00 PM
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Maybe you can answer a question for me. I browsed your history a bit and it looks like your a musician. There is this annoying ass 80yo musician I know that thinks he's hard and always talks about beating up libs or whatever. Why TF do musicians think they are hard? I just don't get it. Not even talking shit right now, it's legitimately confusing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:45 PM
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How to spot a keyboard warrior 101: 'I'll throw hands in real life bro" "my gf is 20 years younger like really" "See how great a guy I am" "My super hot gf loves me more than anything"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:26 PM
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TL;DR: I can and will be as much of a piece of shit as the law allows me to be and expect to not be judged in any way for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:28 AM
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Or, how about we don't try and adopt the dumbest most asinine arguments these dudes come up with. Don't try and dumb your argument down for them, they'll beat you with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:24 AM
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Mate, just saying that the girls you totally really date aren't doing anything creepy doesn't necessarily mean you are not doing anything creepy. Poor comparison because of the differences but nobody blames a 16yo for dating a 30yo. They blame the older person. Now, if you can understand that then you can understand that just saying "some women like it" doesn't say anything about you, and people will still call you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:17 AM
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Yeah, definitely has that "don't tax the rich! I'm gonna win the lottery" vibe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:12 AM
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Mate, I was talking about that other asshole trying to re-frame what he said. You know, that thing you just did in your comment. But way to tell on yourself and all your insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:52 AM
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Insanity is (you) trying the same thing over and over expecting different results. Stupidity is seeing someone else try something, seeing it doesn't work, and then trying it anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:18 AM
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I'm totally on board with your description. It doesn't sound psychotic. Still, I really do think that other guy accidentally said the quiet part out loud as to why it became popular in TRP, assuming it was (like I said, never heard of it). I doubt it was more noble before, guys were just less explicit and are now more explicit as a reaction to all their manosphere nonsense that they are being persecuted and therefore justified in being more explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:11 PM
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We are moving in the same direction. I'm not gonna play 20 questions, nobody wants that. The point I'm getting at, that you touch on though probably disagree, is that meaning is derived from experience. Ignoring OP's blatant sexism in assuming women are too stupid or self absorbed to understand their own thoughts, descriptions of reality devoid of experience are also devoid of meaning. It's not that women or anyone fails to understand that experience is not objective and therefore less valuable …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:02 PM
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Measurable things describe reality. Describing something and defining it are different generally. Define is inherently about meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:11 PM
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This is some galaxy brain WTF. I get being viscerally angry about Tate. How that leads to your insane list is not only beyond me, but anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:16 PM
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This was obviously more clever in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:10 PM
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"Red Pill realities" Nice. once again proving your flair is utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:55 PM
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Seriously mate, I know I told you this before but I'll repeat it. Just go live your life. Also, you already argued previously that nobody actually cares about anyone and all friends are conditional and temporary. Guess your in a better mood today if people can 'genuinely care about you'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:50 PM
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You failed to address my implicit question in order to re-frame the discussion. I'll make it explicit for you. How is a means to increase competition anxiety of your partner not manipulation. I didn't ask what steps you take for that means. The means as a whole are intended to increase competition anxiety. That's what you said. Why is that not manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:35 PM
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Alright, this is a hot mess but I'm inclined to give you an chance here. Feelings do not define reality. What does?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:29 PM
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I'm good Ayn Rand. Your intent was clear. No need for more discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:26 PM
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Trying to re-frame it now is pretty pointless. You already said what the intent is. Now though I'm wondering if this is a case of 'said the quiet part out loud' and you just didn't even realize, which is hilarious. Either way its done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:14 PM
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Never heard of Dread, but even as you describe it as whats it is supposed to be as a positive it sounds intentionally manipulative. I just don't see how "means to increase the competition anxiety passively" or any other effort to intentionally increase anxiety could be anything but manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:45 AM
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I think a significant factor that changed TRP was when alt-right and other extremist ideologies realized that it was basically a self-selecting group of potential recruits. Young men unhappy with their situation looking for ways to improve it, or at least improve how they felt about it. then once it began adopting not just the language and ideas of evolutionary psychology but a very deterministic interpretation of those ideas it's path was set. As for the blue pill, yeah its just anything not TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:28 AM
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I honestly hope this is some kind of false flag operation to paint feminists as absurd. All those feminist arguments are arguments for the things they are arguing, not for how to split a bill on a first date. If you seriously think any of that made sense in relation to how to split a bill, you failed the assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:43 AM
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Ah. That explains why you are so obsessed with self righteous superiority. It's what you value most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:31 PM
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'Moral superiority'? Glad I'm not part of whatever conversation you are having in your head that lead to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:12 PM
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C+ for effort. That was also incredibly lame, but you put some work into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:55 AM
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You're kinda taking a bullet for a lot of people on this sub, but here goes: Why is this interesting enough for you to post? What debate do you imagine? Selfish people exist, about half of them are women. "women say they are entitled to...". No, they don't. Assholes do. This just reads as the lamest attempt possible to get karma. You didn't even manage to say something interesting people agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:43 AM
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"boo hoo people disagree with me and have the audacity to say so"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:52 AM
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I'm comfortable with my description of that as being niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:24 PM
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I wasn't talking about rejection, I was talking about criticism, but I see how you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:22 PM
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...this just seems really off topic. What does that have to do with the perception men are obsessed with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:57 PM
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Good title, but the post is pretty frenetic and disjointed. This is all a very niche topic being argued by a niche set of people, so maybe its true that those people are actually the same ones that want to control women, but I would say its less about controlling women and actually about controlling the narrative. The narrative is as you said measured by simple ideas of moral judgement. So, being caste as the villain is unacceptable. Criticism from the 'other' is never taken well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:05 PM
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So, intentionally. Thanks for confirming that. I guess with the lock down having been a thing when people literally weren't out there you get some room for a joke, but not enough for your comment to make sense as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:39 PM
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Sounds pretty normal. Honestly I think the perception of men as being obsessed with sex is due to two primary things. 1) The time men are obsessed with sex (18 in your story but lets say 16-25) are in many regards the most formative years, and when people begin to really understand and recognize the world as being larger than they previously realized. So, that impression of men sticks. 2) Men are a victim of their own success. Because so much of masculinity revolves around denying emotion and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:28 PM
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It's kind of reassuring how consistently someone claiming to not be victim blaming will provide a quintessential example of victim blaming while defending themselves. Horrific, but oddly reassuring. Women make things worse for everyone by not doing enough, and have a responsibility to "withdraw" their consent. Next your going to explain why any woman that survives a rape is lying because she should have fought to the point of death if it was really rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:20 PM
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Once I saw a gif with him I had to use it. The only way I wouldn't is if I saw one with Dean from supernatural. Que someone finding that gif.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:58 PM
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And I am apparently too old to know wtf that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:29 PM
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Maybe just grow a pair and stop bitching. Then people might prefer you. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:26 PM
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Cheers mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:04 PM
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You are a parody of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:40 PM
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...are you just trolling now? You have literally brought the discussion to the foundational premise. That some men won't back off, so there is possible danger. This is like the worst version of Who's on First but you don't realize your part of a joke sketch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:33 PM
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well that was a journey. In this example not asserting oneself is the step being taken to avoid greater harm. It's how women are choosing to protect themselves. If you think that's counterproductive fine, that's a reasonable argument. But the whole tone of your insanity is that women should be blamed for protecting themselves the wrong way. Kinda proved my point there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:14 PM
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I'm trying to follow your logic here. Women should remain single until they no longer feel men might be a threat after an experience where they felt there may have been a threat. I just don't understand how you got there. I know for a fact people with road rage exist, as do drunk drivers ect... I still drive despite the possible risks. I go to bars despite the fact there are often drunk assholes looking for a fight. Everybody engages in activities they know could be dangerous, even after specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:32 AM
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You kind of gave the game away with 'based laws'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:26 AM
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You were rather explicit that you think women talking about their experiences makes you feel like they are blaming you. That they "throw it in your face". And that no matter how true something is, you think it will be used unfairly against you. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:37 AM
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True, you didn't deny what many women go through. You just said it doesn't matter because that fact can be used against you. So it was a case of both minimizing what you seem to believe is true, and an attempt at equivocation. That because bad things also happen to men and can happen to men it's all equal. Of course, you only went to that after being confronted. You had to soften your initial position in the face of reason. Which, I guess you get some credit for, but not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:04 AM
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That's the joke. I already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:32 AM
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I would say its odd and telling that you are focused on this specific example of indifference to injustice as being more significant than others. We all buy smartphones and eat chocolate and...and...and... You are by no means innocent of indifference or inaction. I doubt anyone here would support those women being treated less harshly than men, assuming similar crimes. The fact that 'feminist' issues make you feel like the victim of that indifference when you are not the victim of countless othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:30 AM
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That doesn't make it useless advice. The advice isn't "know to do this thing" its "actually go do it". I know I need to stop drinking soda, and that's good advice. I still drink soda. So, misunderstanding advice doesn't make it useless, and already agreeing with the advice doesn't make it useless. This is becoming a surprisingly ordered exercise in defining what 'useless' means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:20 AM
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The better response. I got distracted by my personal interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 08:03 AM
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Go ahead and look up incorrigible and its place in philosophy, specifically philosophy of the mind. Consent is incorrigible, it only exists as that person claims it to. The experience of believing god spoke to you is incorrigible. Notice I said 'the experience of" because that's what exists within the mind. Even in that example most often the experience is not of an actual voice, 'spoke' is a poetic description of the experience. God does not explicitly only exist within the mind. Consent does. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:55 AM
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Poor timing I think. At least in America the resurgence of explicitly racist and sexist conservatism and a disregard for reality and fact, it does kind of play as the opposite side of a very identifiable coin. As far as how it plays here, and with the manosphere crowd, I honestly don't care. There is no reasonable discussion to be had with people who's position is "I want my past privilege back at any cost." that 99% of TRP as it exists now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:48 AM
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Damn mate, the comment is 2 sentences and you failed to read the first one somehow. How to Read Lesson 107: Sentences that come after another sentence are often related to or predicated on the previous sentence. Next lesson: Context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:41 AM
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This was a very detailed look into your mind nobody wanted, fyi. Love the last paragraph though. "Even if it is all true you just want to use it against me unfairly." Good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:36 AM
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Spoken like a man with no concept of the law. Even normalized behavior can be illegal, and often is. Complaining that someone points that out is just you being a little bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:29 AM
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your examples of being out there demonstrate you failed the assignment. Misunderstanding advice intentionally (which is likely here) or unintentionally doesn't make it bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:23 AM
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I reluctantly support this idea. It's just too good to pass up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:19 AM
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No. As in the rise of companies like Samsung are part of the national history and national identity. Modern SK was founded specifically with the role of major companies in mind, and they are assumed to be integral parts of not just the economy, but the nation as a whole. I would have to do a lot of research to really explain it better, but here in the US many people don't remember or never knew GM went bankrupt. If Samsung went bankrupt there would be chaos, not just because of the economic impa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:12 PM
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Well, assuming you understand as I do that they are identifying competitive social norms as a major influence, I really doubt it. The importance and value of major corporations is very explicitly tied to the government, much more than other countries. They are part of the national identity in a foundational way. Because of that I just don't see why they would participate in any program that diminishes or even appears to diminish their perceived value. That is where the competition originates, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:38 PM
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I have a lot of problems with evolutionary psychology, and your right about how guys here use it. It is a real discipline though, with scientific standards and value. Maybe it will as I believe be proven to be bunk like phrenology before it, but I don't think it lacks useful questions and methods of study. The actual experts are worth taking seriously, even if its just as a counter position to what makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:18 AM
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Yes it is. Evolution is a biological process. It is not interchangeable with evolutionary psychology, but nice attempt at conflating the two. the fact that you tried means your intentionally obscuring what you know to be true, or as I already said, you don't actually understand what your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:07 AM
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Cool. I forgot the scientific principle of "why bother with it". Thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:42 AM
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I'll elaborate. Evolutionary psychology helps bridge some parts of those two disciplines, it is not meant to encompass and explain all anthropology as a function of biology. The only way it would is if you take a strictly deterministic view, which is not even shared among experts in evolutionary psychology. See, you think that evo psych is like physics, but that is not the only or even the prevailing view. Even if it was, evolutionary psychology is relatively new. The vast majority of human beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:30 AM
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-or "we aren't cavemen anymore so people aren't/shouldn't act like them"(they greatly overestimate the typical rate of evolutionary change)- The fact that you thought to apply evolution so directly to social and cultural behaviors demonstrates you understand nothing about biology or anthropology. It's all just words to make you feel smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:48 AM
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Honestly, the whole man vs bear thing is incredibly stupid, but I've come around. Its just hilarious how mad these idiots get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:45 AM
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Not young enough for him fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:25 PM
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TLDR: We need to take all women down a peg so maybe one will date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:41 PM
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Mate, you defend the boy scouts and white identity this hard you are mormon. Sorry to be the one to break it too you. Full on "let me ask my bishop about that" mormon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:38 PM
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This is just dumb from first principles. Trying to transpose an internet debate into a (I assume from your comments) informed debate just doesn't make sense. It's like saying a movie needs to accurately portray all the elements of a book. You fundamentally don't understand the differences in the mediums being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:30 PM
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I see the mormon in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:15 PM
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there is (or was) a mixed version for older teens, like 15+ or something. Forget what it was called. Also, the scouts aren't the only youth organizations that focus on community and camping stuff. There are options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:13 PM
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renaming it isn't eradicating it. Stop being such a drama queen. I don't know and don't actually care if there are other changes happening. All you offered here is a name change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:11 PM
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This is probably just the bias of 'what you see on the news'. In the same way 'it bleeds it leads' has left people thinking their communities are much more dangerous than they are, the principle of 'is this different/interesting enough to mention' leaves people with false impressions of outside communities. Women absolutely do not give a shit that Thai women marry Thai men. Men flying to Thailand to date is different enough to be worth mentioning. The mass increase of marriages taking place betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:42 AM
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It's not really meant to be an accurate description of men's own internal understanding, but of how men speak and act. What do most men brag about? Getting laid, how much women want them ect... What do men most often talk about when it comes to women? How hot she is ect.. A lot of the conversations men have about women is about sex, or about things directly related to sexual attraction. I strongly suspect that the language has become about women 'owing them sex' or more often in my experience me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:24 AM
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Again. Calling children a burden to parents and the state is super weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:19 AM
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'Let them be euthanized' is such a bizarre way to say that. Real nazi doctor vibes there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:29 PM
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At what point do you people decide that your 'thought experiments' are so specific and detached from reality that they are worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:22 PM
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Cosmetic surgery is a medical decision. The adult man has bodily autonomy. Unless he's tied up in a basement being used as a sex slave. Nothing has affected his autonomy before the child is born. Even then, he still has complete bodily autonomy. No one can force him to be present or to perform any physical actions with or to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:58 PM
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"If a baby boy has no autonomy over his genitals, it can't be a double standard to limit that "autonomy" in anyone else." This is just dumb. An infant cannot consent to or make medical decisions, therefore the parents have to be empowered to do so. A mentally healthy adult does have the ability to consent, and therefore has medical power of themselves. Including whether or not to give birth. This is exactly why abortion is an issue for the rights of the person capable of exercising those rights.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:31 PM
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For one? how about "it's immoral" for the only reason to not let children die.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:21 PM
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This is the insane logical conclusion of 'trickle down' economics. We don't need to actually redistribute wealth, just keep having kids and eventually someone will marry a poor person. Bam! economy solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:20 PM
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My point is it doesn't make sense to say its bad for girls to want high value men. Its instinct. You either need to agree with me, rather than just say "that's what the post is about" or explain why it is bad for girls to follow that instinct. Just saying it's shit doesn't mean anything. A lot of instincts are shit, explain why women should not follow theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:44 AM
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What does that matter? It's instinct apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:38 PM
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Why is seeking 'high standards' not good for most girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:49 PM
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This is a child's idea of 'should'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:35 PM
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Cool. "As long as we limit 'high status' to those successful with women then they are the most successful with women"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:14 PM
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No worries. I intentionally don't flair just to see how quick these idiots resort to "you wouldn't understand/care/admit as a woman" when I actually do engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:07 PM
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Since I so often have to correct RP guys, I'll correct you out of obligation. Not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:01 PM
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Are you using 'cimp' and 'cad' to try and sounds clever somehow or do you honestly fail to understand your own argument enough to use the terminology?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:57 PM
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No fault divorce results in joint custody mate. Are you seriously suggesting shared custody is the same as "single mother"? Because I promise your bullshit stats above are not counting shared custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:39 PM
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fuck them kids! They should have known better than to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:28 PM
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You know what? I'll play What does "we need to exercise all avenues, devote all resources into ensuring this culture in society is eliminated as quickly & permanently as possible" mean? Does it mean ending child support payments? (obviously yes, but you still need to pay yours now bro) Does it mean not supporting single mothers with government aid (specifically, since you argue in a comment that single fathers do not fail) at all in order to de-incentivize single motherhood? I just don't see wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:22 PM
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Yeah, you need to get over yourself. All this crap is just you saying how much better you are than other people. Maybe you think your "This is what i want or would be willing to do" list is humble, but I'm guessing the people you interact with can clearly see your self-righteous arrogance and self absorption. So, want to improve your social experiences? Work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:14 PM
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Just pay your child support and stop bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:04 PM
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OP is. I didn't add the "" to the second line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:55 PM
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That made no sense. Nice try at race baiting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:31 PM
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Spoken with literally zero historical context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:27 PM
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Yup. I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:08 PM
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"masculine thirst" Is this just something you made up or is this a thing now in your little world? Also, explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:58 PM
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Do you also remember End of Evangelion? I remember. Before they remade the show so Shinji and all the incel fans could feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:43 PM
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Your argument doesn't even follow its own logic. Don't demonize men for following their instincts! Also (most) women should not follow their instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:22 PM
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try and aim away from your keyboard when you finish jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:17 PM
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When I was in HS I didn't drink. Always had a reason, driving ppl home, don't like beer, ect... Then when talking about prom my gf asked if I would drink I said no blah blah reason and she replied something like "you just don't want to be in complete control of yourself." I was fucking furious. She saw right through me. Point is, you are not as enigmatic or as inscrutable as you imagine. As I said before, you've been around a million times a million ways. Eventually you are going to have to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:07 PM
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I see your patience ran out as quickly as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:52 PM
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You are a parody of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:19 PM
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This is a real "MLK solved racism in America" take. So many guys here start their opinion with "things are at least equal now for women, if not advantageous." Essentially your idea of what should count as 'hate' and 'misogyny' is clearly divorced from actual causes and effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:16 PM
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I feel like this exact trope has played out in enough sitcoms that people should have figured things out by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:48 PM
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Fix your flair mate. your TRP is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:35 PM
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If this isn't Kate or whoever herself looking to troll then you a creepy motherfucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:33 PM
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You've already made it clear with: "Can you explain your points and reasoning. And then I will respond with my disagreements." That your goal is not progress or understanding, you just want a whetstone with which to sharpen your delusional ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:20 PM
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Hate to be the one to break this to you but you are not just a set of ideas. You are a person, and I'll treat you and judge you as one. Just as you have done to women and others in OP and your comments. I know you want to cry foul because I refuse to engage on a purely intellectual level, but its just not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:31 PM
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ehhhh..... I see the point and agree it's worth making.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:27 PM
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Stop being afraid of failure. There is the answer. Fail until you succeed. Bitter and lonely until 40 when you get married? Success story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:26 PM
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A concept that so far anytime someone disagreed you have been adamant they are not talking about the concept. It is only valid as it exists in your mind, any other interpretation fails to adhere to what you consider acceptable. It fails to exist outside of your own specific idealization. You are perfectly exemplifying No True Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:20 PM
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I already have. But I'll make it more clear and much less kind. Your qualia is unique to you, but your circumstances and mental states and reactions are not. Those have all existed a million times in a million ways. I'm guessing that most of the people responding are doing so because they themselves or someone they know has expressed the same ideas, with the same circumstances, and we know what happened next. You may think you are a unique snowflake, but all these things your saying set you on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:11 PM
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That is not the standard for what makes a fallacy. Also, what you describe is your own personal experience and you therefore know it is impossible for someone to have 'the same' experience. Again, you're making an appeal to an impossible standard. Its Scotsmen all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:05 PM
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Reading between the lines is a normal skill. You did it with your whole "I honestly feel like people (mostly women) who believe in the “power” of friendship/social community/social connections as a “bandaid” or “magical drug” that can fix almost any emotional or physical situation." Guess its okay for you to read between the lines of how absurd women are but people judging you? Unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:50 PM
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This is just terrible. "Tell me what you think so I can tell why your wrong" is not a discussion or even a conversation. It's just you being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:47 PM
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No True Scotsman is a well worn fallacy. The fact that other people have their own lives and concerns that do not involve you is not a proof against real friendship and love, its evidence that your concept of friendship and love are ideals completely divorced from reality. Just because ideas can exist intellectually doesn't make them true or valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:44 PM
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Mate you are not Chainsaw Man. In any case, I gave you the information that may benefit you with time. Maybe you remember it, maybe not. Maybe someone says something similar enough you decide to take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:14 PM
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a hell of a lot of things. Blaming dating is like seeing someone shot 10 times, then stabbed in neck and claiming "they died due to stabbing" because that might have killed them regardless of anything else. It's just the most obvious wound to contribute, but it ignores all the other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:10 PM
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Male loneliness is not the result of 'structural inequality in dating'. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:51 PM
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This comment stopped my brain processes completely. 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:30 PM
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here mate. That lack of concern for ethics is very prevalent in a lot of the manosphere discourse, where everyone likes to convince themselves they are discussing whats 'natural' or 'scientific' or whatever. Don't talk like a mad scientist. they are the villains for a reason. The alternative is that you know exactly what you are doing and its a method to try and normalize the framing of the conversation to not include ethics because doing so supports your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:28 PM
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A quite comprehensive example of the effect of toxic masculinity on young men. I only have this to offer you. Life is suffering no matter what you do. This isn't some nihilistic rant, just the fact that pain is always a part of living. It isn't an emotion, and it cannot be overcome by ignoring it or treating it as another emotion. Treating your relationships as rewards is inherently self-absorbed because you are only measuring other people and their value to yourself. This makes you an asshole. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:21 PM
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Touche my friend. EDIT: Nobody thinks that the assholes being assholes are good except themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:09 PM
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Lack of empathy is the mark of an unwell mind. My point being that of course the vast majority of people can empathize with the other side. The problem is that people largely expect empathy to lead to sympathy, or even equate the two, and that just doesn't have to happen. I can empathize without holding sympathy for some TRP dude blaming all his problems on society and women. No no matter how true or empathetic the circumstances are, we all react to those circumstances and people that react with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:08 PM
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Everyone is already expected to engage positively with the community. Nobody thinks that the assholes being assholes are good. Your comment seems to allude to enforcing good behavior, and that's not going to be something anyone who's belief's are founded on individual freedom will agree to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:56 PM
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It genuinely scares me that at no point do you suggest any of those theoretical policies are unethical. Just that they are not in line with liberal democracy, and even that you seem to have no ethical opinion about. This is why women are scared of "just asking questions" bullshit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:52 PM
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Opposites do attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:16 PM
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I guess I can see that interpretation. It's an odd way to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:04 PM
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While the amazing part is that its a clear directive to not try and change someone. If they don't want to improve or change themselves you can't make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:45 PM
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I assume this is meant as a comment on how absurd women are, but its actually kind of amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:06 PM
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You don't even need to ask! Conservative politicians got you covered. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:59 PM
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my car is this color.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:54 PM
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Why did you repeat the same color 5 times? Weird flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:54 PM
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I think you have been way too exposed to online bullshit and no longer understand words to have particular meaning because everyone changes the meaning to whatever fits their argument. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here with over exposure, because the alternative is that this is a comically poor attempt at equivocation. It is not emotional cheating. The word 'cheating' and the lack of anyone else to 'cheat' with should have been the clue there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:59 PM
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"Morality has no preferences" Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:56 PM
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this reads like babies first sexism. Its like your trying to say how comically absurd sexism used to be, while also defending it as practical. This shit is all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:15 PM
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For someone so obsessed with validating ones experience no matter how absurd you sure are comfortable with gate keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:55 PM
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"I have crippling self esteem issues and think men more successful than me are better than me"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:37 PM
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lol. You tried so hard to get a woman to like you while you a side chick. Fuck off mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:35 PM
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Sure mate, reading between the lines is just making assumptions and you're never guilty of the inherent bias all people have. You can only be judged on the words individually, not your words in totality and what they expose about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:58 AM
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of course the RP guy thinks logic is whatever you agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:29 AM
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you don't have to, but you do by refusing to side with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:24 AM
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Because RP is about being superior to women. All women are targets. It only doesn't make sense if you believe RP's bullshit that their not misogynistic. They are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:14 AM
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hypogamy is the opposite of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:34 PM
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fair enough. In that case let me suggest that you offered way too many avenues of criticism. The style your going for is rather conversational, but that just isn't going to be convincing to your audience. They consider this whole mess to be fact and science based, so sticking to the point will better suite your intent. The conversational style becomes rambley, thus my crazy leads to crazy comment. It doesn't really work to take on their arguments then fit them into a different style.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:16 PM
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I know. Just saying you got caught in the trap of taking them seriously and remaining inside the framing they want. It's like arguing with a racist about why minorities aren't bad. None of that shit matters, its all just excuses to be racist. Same for these men; its all just excuses to feel superior to women. So trying to catch them out in their own logic will never work, because the result has to be that they are superior and anything that doesn't have that result is wrong no matter how closely…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:04 PM
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you went too deep my friend. Crazy only leads to crazy, and you went straight to the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:23 PM
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You can make a joke about anything. Making a good joke is hard. Making a good joke about stereotypes is much harder. Making a good joke about stereotypes people are actively trying to fight is even harder. It's not that its impossible or immoral, he was just an idiot for thinking he could do it well. Fail at doing it well and yeah, you're gonna get shit. Adjust accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:39 PM
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You got this backwards. People didn't give a shit about each other before and saw one another a commodities (see: slavery). Those things informed how people behave online. This is a real "violence in video games makes kids violent" argument. It doesn't, but if someone is already prone to violence than videogames make for a good excuse. The internet isn't making people worse, its just making it easier for shitty people to be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:33 PM
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Yeah, this is true. It's not fair, but I'm also not concerned by it that much. Mostly I see it as a 'fuck around find out" situation. Men fucked around for generations, now men are finding out. I don't think it's a slippery slope that will get worse and worse, like most things it will correct towards the center with time. Assuming that society is now basically equal, that doesn't mean everything will be just and fair, it means that we will move back and forth on either side of the ideal as circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:47 AM
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succinctly put. As long as men see sex as a victory it will be a competition and women lose by providing it, and men lose by failing to get it. Queue "sexual selection is competition" because you idiots don't understand context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:24 AM
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Your use of 'limerence' has the same energy as someone insisting their pedophilia is normal while talking about 'sexual beings'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:09 AM
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Hiding money doesn't work in a divorce. If you can access that money then a lawyer can find it. It absolutely will be considered when splitting assets, and will just look bad and incriminate you when you fail to disclose it. Now the judge and opposition know you're going to try and hide shit, so they better make sure you can't. If you are just talking about the ethics, obviously hiding money is the unethical one. A prenup is agreed to by both parties, it provides full consent and knowledge. Hidi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:03 AM
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Wow. You are really pissed people told you that you were using cynicism wrong huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:40 PM
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no you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:34 PM
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There are, you are not one of them. They know that they are only making guesses based on very limited evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:17 AM
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Well, maybe I was wrong. Mate, this is the kind of conversation that only exists in your own head, even if you have it online or with friends. You already know the answer: some people will be offended and think you're a dick, some people will roll their eyes, and some people will laugh with you. Its a poor hypothetical because it fails to account for whats observably true and assumes a false foundation. That's what makes it "only in your own head" kind of question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:56 PM
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This just reeks of "anything less then perfect is unacceptable to them so why bother" thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:33 PM
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People have needs that they look to be fulfilled. Your parents and siblings and children are not relationships you choose, so fulfilling those needs with the one relationship you fully choose, your spouse/SO makes sense. "What do you bring to the table" is not a denial of love or emotion, its accepting that emotion is not always or even often enough to build a life around. With that said, especially on here people take it to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:48 PM
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OP already responded to me, this is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:10 PM
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This is not a good take. Having multiple kids so they raise themselves is not the starting point, its the reality that emerges from parental failure. I think you're pretty sincere here, so I'm trying to not be mean or degrading, I'm just trying to give the perspective to you of people not inside the "marriage is too much of a risk to consider" tent. You are planning from first principles ways to avoid raising your children while claiming that its a good solution for having children. Why are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:02 PM
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Mate, if you think of being emotionally available to your own children as extra work, then you don't need to be considering being a single parent by design. While I realize this whole thing is not significantly different then having kids as a couple, it just comes off as incredibly self serving and like you obviously aren't going to be their to adequately support those kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:22 PM
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"other people make decisions different than I would, they must be stupid"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:17 AM
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correlation is not causation. Also, you have failed to demonstrate why women should feel grateful to you. Put all that crap together and it gives a "people should respect me because I'm me" vibe, which is bullshit. The fact that you focus on women gives it the added vibe of "women should respect me for being a man". If that's the vibe you have IRL then its no wonder women tell you to fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:12 AM
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what a glowing review of rural life, get shot if you say something the hooded locals don't like. Better than lynching I guess, yall can't do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:10 AM
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Society and culture will shift, either naturally as the consequences bear out solutions, or forcefully when people decide the government is failing and needs drastic change, probably through sudden change in voting patterns. It's like you idiots think that things don't ever change. That every trend that exists now is permanent with eternal consequence. There is really only one example of that, climate change, but now all you assholes have decided that if science exists everything must be just as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:06 AM
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This. Talk about buying in to whatever the narrative is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:49 AM
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This. This is why I check this sub. Fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:55 AM
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I just want to commend you for at least approaching a reasonable understanding of evolutionary psychology without falling into the trap of determinism or assumptions based on nothing about 'early humans'. That plus your flair makes you a rare breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:32 AM
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You know this from your experience as an early human and all their written records from before written language? Wait, no, your just saying shit you heard somewhere that you and they have little to no knowledge of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:28 AM
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Go ahead and google solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:15 AM
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Depends what you mean by inexperienced. Inexperienced sexually? Who cares. I'm sure someone does but really its not a big deal. Inexperienced in dating/with women in general? The obvious question is "how did you get here? How did you get this far without any experience dating or with women?" The answer at least partially is you made choices that created that result. Whatever the reason, your too ugly, introverted, whatever, that shit is stuff nobody wants to make their problem, because it demons…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:09 AM
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So your claim is that men in America 'play' because of the unavailability of paid sex. That means that men do not 'play' or seek to manipulate women in countries where sex work is legal. See that? That's logic, and obviously it still happens in every country. Like I said, you didn't even approach approximation of logic. Not to mention your complete lack of knowledge about logical forms or standards. All you did was repeat the same shit. We all understand, your just too fucking stupid to understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:41 AM
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Nope. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated unsourced claims. That was not even an approximation of logic, that was just you musing out loud. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:22 AM
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"logic dictates"? lol. Go on then, demonstrate the logical necessity of your conclusions. Not your bullshit argument, I want actual logical form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:55 AM
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You completely failed to consider the effect of anonymity in those platforms being preferred by men, you only considered its possible impact on women. They are probably more popular with men because of the anonymity, and men feel empowered to say the things they still believe but aren't really allowed to say in their own life without consequence. Lack of consequence is the motivating factor for their popularity, and as you pointed out that seems to appeal to men a lot more than women. I already …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:31 AM
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Got a source for any of that bullshit hypothetical nonsense in your post? No. legal sex work isn't hypothetical, it exists in the world. It does not have the effects you are proposing. You are a child claiming that because something doesn't exist in your vision it can't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:23 AM
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...it could be improved. Or used for lung capacity training.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:21 PM
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I think maybe this is just one those things these hypothetical men will have to suck up and accept. Same for teetotaler. It's just such a normal thing in western societies to drink occasionally that the fact that someone doesn't is worth poking at. Same with incels, except incel takes it a step further by saying "I want to and can't" so the obvious next question, or line of thinking is "why not?" Basically, by being open about it they activate the twin trap cards of falsifiability "Your wrong ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:24 AM
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I get to do this almost everyday, and its fun every time. What Taicho Gato did not know is that he was talking to a man the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:58 PM
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"All that equality and women have demonstrated a lack of integrity, leadership, and emotional maturity." Given how much you clearly hate women it was the most appropriate description, if you find it unflattering then too fucking bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:49 PM
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I would say that consent is incorrigible, but 'binary' works well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:49 PM
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oh, alright. I'm in a head space arguing with assholes defending cheating in a marriage. A lot of people are going to hate this, but here is how I imagine it. On a football field if yes is one side and no the other, the most basic understanding of consent is that the field cannot be crossed. No always lands on one side, yes on the other. So if someone 'persuades' another to agree, all they've done is essentially appear on the other side of the field, and all is well. However, I would say its mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 PM
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Can you tell the difference between reluctance and enthusiasm? The answer is yes, you can. That.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:27 PM
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This is exactly why enthusiastic consent has been the new call, to avoid this kind of unnecessary muddying of 'consent' towards 'not consent'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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you beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:46 PM
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not like you. You are an adult and understand that using fine words makes you sound like less of a whiny needy little bitch. Oh wait, nope, it's still obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:19 PM
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There was no bait and switch. trying to take a realistic down to Earth tone and then calling it such is obviously incongruent. More bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:34 AM
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found to many different Real movies to know what your referencing. is it the 2013 one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:20 AM
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lol. sure love, anything predicated on "as long as you don't get caught" is healthy, fuck might as well call it good, its their fault for lying to you 20 years ago and not explicitly saying one day they will not be seeking sex. Because that's something they knew. Really, your the victim. Same bullshit different day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:17 AM
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not "being miserable and resentful" does not qualify as a need. Or, if we are going with a Maslow style argument that it represents a higher level need, there are alternatives ways of achieving it. Ways that don't include being a selfish piece of shit. You know this from all the examples of it being true. If you can;t achieve those, thats a you problem, not your partners problem. But sure, they need to bare the cost of whatever fucked up thing you decide to do without telling them. Healthy marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:07 AM
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what movie is this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:00 AM
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'a man's word is his bond' This is very obviously a cultural hold over from a time when women were basically property so their word didn't matter. The most relevant example being: Numbers 30:2. If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth. So yes, you correctly identified that a woman's word would not be treated equal to a man's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:53 AM
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You don't have a physical need to lie and fuck another person. More bullshit to justify doing whatever you want. There is no coherent argument that includes "If the marriage is otherwise okay I don't think it should end over a dead bedroom" because its not otherwise okay. If it was otherwise okay you wouldn't be considering lying to your partner. That's just a way to misrepresent the state of a failing marriage. Like honestly? One thing wrong with a marriage justifies lying and cheating? No, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:43 AM
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goes to shit means divorce. It doesn't mean do whatever the fuck you want. Lets be clear, you were not at all pointing that out. Your comment was just a transparent way to play the victim, but you fucking failed because of course. You are obviously trying to get someone to validate the idea that because you feel frustrated about something you get to do whatever you want, regardless of how it affects others. The only way you could be more clear if if you titled this post "tell me how to explain w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:16 PM
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okay. how is that related to saying infidelity is unethical? Or that men that are unhappy in their marriage should get a divorce? Or that failing to take the responsible steps to change your life and instead cheating is the act of a fucking coward? "doesn’t want to stay frustrated for the rest of his life" and "does shit worth criticizing like cheating" are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:04 PM
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ethics. infidelity in unethical to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:52 PM
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they should. Or, maybe having sex isn't important to them, so why divorce over something unimportant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:39 PM
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same shit different day. man cheats, then it must be the woman's fault. The answer of course is that any guys using this logic is just a fucking coward that won't divorce his wife he hates and rationalizes cheating. Men can file for divorce, maybe one of the reasons women are so quick to file first is they know men are going to come up with shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:34 PM
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well that was fucking insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:16 PM
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"if everyone agreed things would be better" hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:12 PM
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Fact: Dating and romance are easier for women than men. Response: short term dating is easier for women than men. long term dating is equivalent because it requires equivalent investment, that's what differentiates it from short term dating. Fact: Society values women more than men! Response: your applying different ideas of value to each gender then just claiming they are 'different but equal', when the outcome is clearly not equal in most areas of society. the attempt to limit it to just talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:28 PM
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I feel like I'm reading an alien language or something out of Lovecraft. No matter how long I look knowing these are words they just slip past my mind and I have to keep staring to try and remember they are words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:31 AM
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I'm not generous enough to assume they are stopping because they learned, rather than stopping because they got called out. That's just me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:05 AM
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Your not accounting for assholes. Assholes aren't failing to notice, they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:55 AM
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Read: People hate confrontation and instead of facing a problem head on they remain polite to avoid the other person doing something crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:48 AM
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I'll be honest mate, I gave you a really considered response because you seem sincere, but I'm not gonna go further down this road. Have you ever heard the phrase "mothers have a baby, fathers have a maybe"? Marriage has always been a means to try and mitigate that maybe. Only in the most recent times has it been something capable to be advantageous to women in any meaningful way. Until recently marriage was not a tool to stop men from having sex, it guaranteed men sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:27 PM
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Lets see if I can competently offer a criticism of the logic. I'm still working out the wording. First, lets establish that double standard means men criticizing women for sleeping around, while not criticizing men for sleeping around. I know both genders do this, but I need to simplify it to make my point. I'll address women criticizing women at the end. So, you believe broadly in sexual selection and evolutionary psychology. Again, broadly, that means genders of a species adapt and evolve to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:01 PM
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We'll just ignore that is false in the top %1 percent paid jobs. I get your point. Even for something like a teacher, the base pay is equal but the highest paying extra duties are the ones overwhelming held by men, like coaching. Now you are going to say that women are not pursuing those extra duties, and I'm going to say the same thing was said in the past about senior management and STEM. The fact that women are not pursing those opportunities is not enough to say they don't want to, if they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:32 PM
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Mate, I know you think your pain and experience is unique and nobody understands, but its just not true. Also, I know you think every criticism or observation that doesn't completely validate your every experience is code for the worst possible interpretation that is always an attack on you personally, but again, that's just not true. I asked about a military base because I had that same experience in the army, told the doc about my depression and he essentially told me to walk it off. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:41 PM
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This is so bizarre. You linked an article about how acting out emotions releases endorphins and does not contribute meaningfully to mental health, yet are arguing that men's mental health benefits from acting out emotions. What is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:22 PM
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its not the first port of call for something they are not trained in. Your right, they should have refereed you. That's pretty fucked up. However, you literally took the smallest step possible to seek help and gave up at the first inconvenience. This does not qualify as 'seeking help' in any meaningful way because 'seeking' implies continued effort. You have to try to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:14 PM
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the first (again, as a teenager) said "it's probably just your autism, goodbye" (almost word for word), the second (as an adult) said "Google some therapy" Expand. Your saying you went to mental health professionals about depression and received these responses? Or just a doctor. Also, it should matter, but it does, was this on a military base?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:05 PM
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"I don't believe talking helps" admitting that you won't even consider the possibility that therapy can help. Nice. Really lends your opinion weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:01 PM
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not for you. Your experience is not universal, and you've failed to demonstrate even a basic understanding of modern therapy practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:59 PM
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So you don't know if men are engaging with the process to the necessary degree for effectiveness. Doesn't that mean the conclusion that it is less effective for men is meaningless? That's like saying it's the teachers fault your kid is failing because he never did his homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:57 PM
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We should discard the theory of relativity by your logic then What. Seriously man, I'm not trying to be mean, do you think this is how science works?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:51 PM
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that escalated quickly, and I liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:46 PM
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two things. Therapy does not qualify as trauma dumping by your own definition because a professional has the training necessary to not " feel overwhelmed or emotionally exhausted" So characterizing therapy as trauma dumping is incorrect, though it may be true that men in therapy consider it to be trauma dumping and the professional is not able to correct that perception as well as for women. If that is the case, it needs to be addressed. Just saying that men naturally act out their emotions rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:45 PM
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if you watching porn multiple times a day while jacking off turn that stuff off. Just going to make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:25 PM
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no, its based on the idea that men that go oversees for sex are more likely to have personality traits associated with seeking sexually exploitable women like high levels of narcissism, machiavellian traits, and/or anti social traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:21 PM
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I just need to make sure you are aware there is more than one job. demand equal pay for the same job doesn't mean demand equal pay for every job. It is possible to marry someone with a higher paying different job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:13 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:56 PM
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So, your asking for every possible outcome, and then telling people they are wrong when you disagree. Fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:28 PM
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mate you answered your own question. People will compromise as best they can to make the marriage work. Oh wait, that's just a description of marriage and dating. Fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:10 PM
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I see what your trying to do, but its not inconsistent to say that proving a crime demands action, and knowing a crime occurred despite a lack of evidence demands action. Reaching the legal minimum of evidence is not the only measure a commander can or does use while in command. You seem to believe that legal consequence is the only acceptable measure, and that's fine. Given the shit I've seen while in the army I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:45 PM
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I wish I had that article still. Ironically it was about how there has been an increase in efforts to eliminate alimony because women are more often subject to it. Obviously bias needs to be addressed, but its not as prevalent as you all imagine. Most places default to shared custody 50/50 and then one party has to prove the other is unable to effectively offer %50 custody. Most child support plans are based on a calculation of income and income disparity between the parties, with the assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:28 PM
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Of course. If someone is found to have committed a crime they need to be charged. I see what your trying to do, but its not inconsistent to say that proving a crime demands action, and knowing a crime occurred despite a lack of evidence demands action. Reaching the legal minimum of evidence is not the only measure a commander can or does use while in command. You seem to believe that legal consequence is the only acceptable measure, and that's fine. Given the shit I've seen while in the army I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:20 PM
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I'm sorry, I have to do it. Man fucks up his own life and his families....must be the woman's fault. Really though, I have no tears to shed for child support, assuming that money is supporting the child. Is it also supporting the woman? Yes, because a child cannot support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:08 PM
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maybe I'm just old then, to me playboy always meant a (wealthy) guy dating/fucking the hottest girls around, nothing serious nothing with consequence. That's textbook shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:56 PM
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Ah! I just happened to have gotten a Reuters article about this, but I didn't save it. Only around %10 of divorces result in alimony. Now you said perceived, and there is of course child support, but it makes the "gonna get that money" motivation less compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:49 PM
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That'll do. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:12 PM
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well that took a turn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:10 PM
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True. Still needs to go. As an example, look at the history and global prevalence of the swastika. One group of dedicated assholes ruined it for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:09 PM
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It distinctly feels like you're about to advertise a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:03 PM
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sorry to ask, where is that %10 from? like a source. I was trying to make a related point recently that the idea that men being the breadwinner doesn't prove much since there being a breadwinner is so uncommon and couldn't get through this dudes head how small the discrepancy in pay is for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:58 PM
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You just keep digging that hole huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:37 PM
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know I'm with you in spirit. -playboy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:35 PM
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failed to cite a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:32 PM
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no source, for either comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:28 PM
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"men NEVER hear women admitting fault or mistakes." The source is me telling you I have heard it, and others telling you the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:25 PM
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not really, 1 point to griffindor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:24 PM
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"the works of Dr. David Buss " is not a source. If you want to demand scientific standards, best fucking provide them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:23 PM
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Is that seriously what you think citing a source looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:22 PM
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men also have biological preferences, they are not a more reliable source. unsound logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:22 PM
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I don't need any. You are claiming it is different. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:20 PM
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I never claimed to know more, I have been demonstrating that you are so comically misrepresenting him and evolutionary psychology it should honestly be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:20 PM
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Agreed. In real life people understand that just stating flat out all women are liars and can;t be trusted because of 'science' is fucking stupid. I honestly feel bad for Dr. Buss that you are so comfortable using his name to defend your stupid ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:18 PM
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We already have words for that. Gold digger, slut ect... I'm so sorry everybody, I'm going to dive into some of the language used around TRP. The key feature of hypergamy is that it is based on evolutionary psychology and the premise that women look for partners that will offer a high level of support, because having children is necessarily more of a commitment for women (pregnancy) creating conflict that women resolve by finding partners that will invest more in that relationship. That means me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:06 PM
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People are not logical. Lets just get that out of the way. My logic 101 class had a curve that sometimes went as low as a 72 being an A because otherwise most of the class would have failed out, including me. The problem I have with how you are characterizing 'a logic' is that it comes from a clear bias. Men view logic as a good. Being logical is good. Being illogical is bad. The result is what many people are pointing out, "illogical" is used against women to note women's inferiority ect... Rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:42 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:20 PM
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no source, pure conjecture
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:19 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:19 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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??? Sexist bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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???? Sexist bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:17 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:16 PM
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Appeal to authority
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:15 PM
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objectively false, examples have been provided of men hearing women admit mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:15 PM
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disregard of surveys that contradict your position as being "not reflective of our actual lives offline"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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Appeal to authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:14 PM
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people unciously lie in order to maintain mating advantage, so just trusting them, especially women which is exactly what you are saying is impossible to do is logically inconsistent. No source, unsound logic, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:13 PM
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no source, pure conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:11 PM
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men do hear women admitting mistakes, I already told you that I did, as have others You are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:07 PM
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translation: your evidence doesn't matter, mine does. You do this a lot, it's almost like you are arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:06 PM
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You obviously understand the problem. What you don't understand is that evolutionary psychology doesn't deal in hard facts, it deals in patterns. Even then, the primary criticism of evolutionary psychology is that it is falsely deterministic. So it is a debate, in science even, and your representation of actual research as "just facts" is comically ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:58 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:48 PM
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its almost like they exist to be used, so that the government isn't forcing people to remain in a marriage they actively want out of. Like maybe forcing people to remain in a marriage they don't want is worse than giving people the means to divorce. But sure, lets be side "YOU SAID FOR LIFE AND YOUR GOING TO FUCKING MEAN IT"! Nothing concerning there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:39 PM
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I did the same, they clearly admitted to fault. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:32 PM
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sometimes shit has to get done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:26 PM
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Its not really gaslighting. The logic is that TRP doesn't define itself by any specific arguement, it defines itself as "the truth" or "reailty" not otherwise being represented in the common dating advice. What that means is that that anything shared between the two is not red pill, by definition because it is already being represented in the common dating advice. So, the "common sense" ideas making it into the mainstream? Like say "get in shape if you want a better chance at dating" is objectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:24 PM
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true. Most men from benefit from feminism as it currently stands, but then this is the classic example of its easier to keep people divided than let them unite against the real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:53 PM
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...yeah Japan and South Korea aren't really known for their labor camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:04 PM
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Point one is a joke. Expand on the second point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:45 PM
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Fine, I'll play. how is it showing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:24 PM
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It doesn't account for dating trends because I don't care about dating trends in regards to the economy. Its completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:03 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:20 PM
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Do you see this Lilith, you've put me in a position to not contradict bottleblank. Fucking bottleblank! We would murder each other in a knife fight in the mud but I'm left with nothing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:08 PM
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Its frustrating you are so often right but you always argue so poorly. Honest question: Are you intentionally playing into the femnazi stereotype just as a "fuck you" to the incompetent sexists that frequent this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:04 PM
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Thank you! Finally. Yeah, your probably right. It's not really worth getting into a discussion about motivations for such legislation because I couldn't speak to that in any competent way, but I do know in China birth is culturally considered the beginning of life, so there wasn't really much debate about the ethics of contraceptives or even really abortion, those things were independent from ideas of ethics or women's rights. It just wasn't something people were concerned with broadly speaking.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:47 PM
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I honestly can't tell if your just vastly more competent at obscuring your position than OP, or if you are just accidentally failing to provide anything that would indicate your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:34 PM
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...I think you saw my trap. But fair enough. Honestly, I have little interest in debating what OP means while he actively obfuscates any real stated position. I'll just jump right to my final argument I had planned that if increasing the work force depresses wages to the point that what people would consider "normal" social interactions are only available to those above the average income, then the problem are the policies depressing wages not an increased workforce. Essentially, the problem is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:32 PM
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...thats true. I want to say the fact that I assumed birth not involving and egg or sperm makes the child not really yours proves my point, but really I just fucked that one up. Still, people want a connection to their children. Reducing the number of identifiable connections will not be satisfying. I'm still okay with that point. Genuine question: is truth seeker some kind of religious affiliation? Pointing out the incongruity of your flair and the fact that your premise is based on fiction is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:22 PM
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I am genuinely annoyed you flaired yourself "truth-seeker" and this is the starting point. Moving on, I doubt it will have as much of an effect as you might imagining if its not compulsory. Women already suffer from ideas of "failing" in some way from a C-section because people want to feel they are doing things right, and people want a connection with their children. Just telling people "give us your DNA, any child created is not yours" isn't going to be satisfying for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:13 PM
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Stefan Molyneux is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:55 PM
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Alright. Why bother being concerned about declining birthrates?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:45 PM
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I guess the difference is that none of those guys are actually fucking pornstars, its literally just fantasy. Women however are fucking the "top" guys on tinder. Achieve-ability goes a long way. *Edit* as to whats considered "realistic"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:32 PM
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Agreed. The ability and availability of means to prevent pregnancy decrease the number of pregnancies. Those things do not necessarily correlate to feminism, which is specifically mentioned by OP. It's hard to talk around this as long as OP continues to refuse to just provide his position, but obviously his position is that feminism is the cause of the problems he mentions. We have identified that not only is that not the case. In fact, the countries with some the most severe projected populatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:06 PM
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...that's a stretch. The difference between "(men) protect women" and "don't harm women" is wide enough to make that a false equivocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:01 AM
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Japan, a famously pro feminist society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:44 AM
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I just don't see the value in disregarding the concept of time or circumstance when deciding what counts as settling. So what if (with the benefit of hindsight and rose colored glasses) you feel you loved a gf from 5 years ago more. Shits done, you can't go back in time. That doesn't mean you're settling, it means you understand time exists and circumstances change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:48 AM
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I think maybe you don't understand Warhammer 40k is mostly satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:09 AM
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Not really what you were going for I know, but It lead me down an interesting line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:06 AM
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Are you arguing that feminism is the cause of declining birthrates and the problems of modern dating? Defending your own position is debate 101. Particularly when you are the one introducing the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:55 AM
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An interesting way to introduce the idea that family planning has two very distinct and conflicting definitions. Personal family planning which as you describe results in greater availability of resources, including resources to prevent pregnancy. Government family planning, which is concerned with the social stability of the nation and usually results in access to fewer resources, particularly those that prevent pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:53 AM
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In before OP completes his master plan of responding "I didn't even criticize feminism I just asked questions, the way people are so viciously defending feminism proves my point that we can't even talk about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:40 AM
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Why are the birthrates lower in Asian countries with less feminist influence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:16 AM
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Oh man. You really thought that was clever huh? I'll just go ahead and lay this out for fun. "He needs to look as physically attractive as he possibly can be first before even worrying about his social skills." You explicitly state that he needs to look as attractive as possible, which I do not, and you explicitly state that looking as attractive as possible must happen before working on social skills. Someone can go to the gym an hour a day to get in shape and work on their social skills at oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:36 AM
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Go ahead and take a trip to walmart on a Sunday afternoon and see with your eyes all the people buying food for their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:26 AM
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I honestly think that all you looksmaxxing people will immediately change your mind with one trip to walmart on a Sunday afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:23 AM
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Virgin at 22 is fine. Life doesn't end at 30, so a few years outside the 'norm' is not some huge issue. What women are going to latch onto as being a problem is never having dated. And the association of dating with having sex. Sure, that's the truth of it but when you lay it out that directly its not a good look because it reads as dating=sex. Saying you've been friend zoned is likely to be taken that you have no interest in anything other than sex. Fair or not, there it is. General rule, if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:19 AM
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What your failing to account for is that a letter of reprimand has no standard of evidence because even the military recognizes a commander can know something is true without explicit evidence. Its a tool to maintain order and good conduct and issue punishments without the need of a legal battle for every single thing. When I was in the army we got a new sergeant major that made his first act a 'sit down' where he made it very clear that he knew exactly what everyone was up to because he wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:54 AM
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Because your question doesn't make sense. It is founded on false premises, that "believe all victims" is equivalent to pretending false accusations never happen. Are you seriously going to look at that incredibly thorough response and just say "well you didn't explicitly address the question the right way"? This is why you fucks will never be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:47 AM
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That's what happens when you name your ideology from a movie with a literal chosen one messiah that dies and is reborn, then brings back his one true love from the dead.. But you keep telling yourself you're a realist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:25 PM
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Its not really advice about how to get a date, It's advice on how to not become a miserable asshole. See, blue is concerned with more than just dating, so advice can apply to more than just dating. What happens when you focus on handing out resumes and impressing in interviews? you increase the likelihood of getting a job. 99 unanswered applications that results in one job is a win, no matter how depressing things were until that job. What happens when you focus on dating? Very often you become …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:06 PM
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practically, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:26 PM
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getting in shape to improve your chance at a date is normal everyday advice. Asking out more women is normal everyday advice. Not wearing sweatpants to a date is normal everyday advice. So, do those belong to TRP or TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:19 PM
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Do you not see the irony that we are literally playing out the exact conversation I detailed in my comment? I'll just jump ahead. Explain to me why the argument that something is natural applies to power imbalance in a modern society but does not apply to other things like rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:08 PM
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Rape is natural and backed up by extensive research. Consent is the outlier. Are you now advocating for rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:05 PM
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Since we are on PPD, I'll note TRP is equally unable to create a definitive accurate description of 'the blue pill". What you accidentally stumbled on is that an ideology that positions itself as against 'the norm' has the sole responsibility to actually define those differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:02 PM
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The primary one is that men are natural leaders and breadwinners, and the women are natural caretakers and naturally submissive. Therefore, men should primarily hold leadership positions, and women should primarily defer to male preference and leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:58 PM
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Sure. They just believe all the things that make up the patriarchy, but naming it is a cardinal sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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Yes, you successfully identified a radical group. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:05 PM
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This is the wrong question. Honestly, its a useless question. The question is, what is the purpose of the monsphere? What does it advocate and why? Broadly speaking the monsphere advocates for patriarchal social structures. This is usually based on some pseudoscience about how men are natural leaders, women look for protection and so on. Someimtes that manifests as "equality was achieved despite the tangible evidence men hold considerably more power, that's just because women don't want more pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:29 AM
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le sigh This is why I don't use actual logic with these types of people. OP has no interest in logic, its just a hammer he uses to bash in peoples heads for bothering to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:31 AM
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I'm not really arguing for equality of outcome. I'll say it this way. Just arguing that women choose lower paying jobs isn't convincing. Full stop. The systems in place have always disadvantaged women so just saying "well they don't anymore, it's their own fault" doesn't make sense because there is absolutely no way to demonstrate that without the caveat "assuming things are actually fully equal legally and culturally" If there remains a cultural aversion to hiring women for high positions, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:54 AM
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"they will always have a never ending stream of advances and options" This you bro? While you didn't identify anything in that never ending stream as being better, the numbers game still exists. More options means higher likelihood of a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:38 AM
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keep reading my man. I know these posts are long but I address that further down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:54 PM
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What makes this weird is ending with "a good opportunity". By what possible measure is it good if there are readily available better options? That and the creepy tone of "it doesn’t matter how much you have over a woman". That shit just screams "Women SHOULD like me but don't and its not fair". Really undercuts the whole message. Work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:48 PM
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She's not. Well I mean she is in a broad sense of the stripping of reproductive rights and repeal of roe v wade and so on, but lets just say she is not facing debilitating inequality. The average income is around 40k. Why would she be a good example of the inequality the average woman faces, or even of the average anything? Assuming you can agree to something basic like pay inequality, that women on average earn less than men, do you think earning less than the average of 40k counts as debilitat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
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Ohhh. Your commenting from the position that intersectionality is an attempt to deflect responsibility for personal failings. You had me really confused there, but now I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:55 PM
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Not really, I was leaning more into the idea that men that join the manosphere have already proven themselves susceptible to those strategies, so they are easy marks for more extreme groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:34 PM
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So, there are some interesting points here. First, fringe groups (lets just use the alt right since that's what I initially chose) do share information with the outside and appear publicly. The "Unite the Right" rallies were a perfect example of this, and were widely challenged...from the outside. What those groups do not tolerate are challenges from within the group, which is true of the manosphere. The same thing occurred with Antifa for an example on the left. Widely opposed from the outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:07 PM
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Fair enough. Just feels like I missed something everyone else is in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:42 PM
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I need to know, was there some kind of nice guy convention recently? Why the hell are there so many posts about nice guys specifically all at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:34 PM
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Sure. Any appeal to ethics that might jeopardize the lineage is "wrong". That maintains the average person's understanding of right and wrong as being completely separate from any idea of ethics or morality. Right and wrong are purely biological values measured by outcome, not intent or motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:28 PM
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That is all bat shit insane, but at least you are being consistent. Not a compliment I thought I would be giving to something so transparently horrible, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:11 PM
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That all felt very personal for you. But yes, you have successfully identified that people often treat one individual different from another individual. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:27 PM
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You literally just described the method every fringe group uses to recruit new members. Find people that are failing/dissatisfied, validate their experience and offer a narrative where those failings are not actually failings or not actually that persons fault. In fact, you have identified exactly why so many manosphere guys move towards the alt-right, because they use the same strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:07 PM
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because it's not exclusive to dating. Are you intentionally trying to make the dumbest counter argument possible? I understand that he (assumedly) and you want to set dating aside in it's own little box, but given the fact he specifically mentions moral values taught to boys, which are very obviously are not meant to be exclusive to dating, he and you have failed at the first possible step. Really since we are here, what possible value is there in isolating dating as a subject in that way? He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:54 PM
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Do you seriously not understand that some advice is meant to apply to more than just dating? You mean address it with something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:37 PM
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it wasn't a reference, its clearly formatted as a copy paste job. I gave my response. Engage with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:29 PM
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Wow. The irony of the fact that you copied a quote that is not from my response just makes this too perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:24 PM
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So, to sum up raising boys with positive values is wrong because the world isn't just? The "sting" of realizing the world exists beyond you is not unique to men. That's literally just a description of growing up to be an adult. Do you seriously not understand that some advice is meant to apply to more than just dating? Or even the basic idea that just because others succeed with unethical behavior that doesn't mean its impossible to succeed with ethical behavior? How fucking insecure are you tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:17 PM
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"slowing dying out" and "less common" are two very different things. I assume it will be less common in the same way religion will be less common in the future. Not gone, not dying out, just not such a vast majority that people will automatically assume it to be the case for everyone they meet, because what were the chances of meeting an outspoken atheist in 1880? Or meeting someone in a poly amorous relationship, assuming you were not in Utah at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:18 AM
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Is this really where we are at? Finding someone attractive is the same as "at least he was hot"? You don't recognize any gap between "well he's cute" or any other description of attraction and "at least he's hot"? Or are we also only talking about chad's over 6 feet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 AM
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At no point did anyone limit it to only people that can't get a date, OP is about fairness in dating and in a relationship. But fine, lets just go along with the idea that we are only talking about approaching women and not actual dates or dating. Even then, do you honestly think that a 2 minute chat isn't enough time to form an opinion about someone's personality? I'm not talking about an accurate opinion, just an opinion based on that 2 minute conversation. News flash: people do, everyone does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:54 AM
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...Do you seriously not know what the red pill refers to? The entire thing is founded on 'fiction entertainment' with mass appeal. The movie it is from does the exact thing you are saying is wrong and blue pill. Neo literally becomes the chosen one and he uses his powers to bring Trinity back to life because their love is so important. What the hell is happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:15 AM
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Nobody has ever thought "I am describing a man that I know for a fact EVERY woman would never date" because that is transparently insane and impossible claim to prove. If that's your standard for what qualifies as valid advice then good luck to you mate, enjoy never having an opinion about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:21 AM
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Alright. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:20 PM
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You're doing the same thing he is doing. Now that he and I talked a bit I get where he went wrong. Basically, he is assuming that because unjust assumptions exist that any assumption that could be unjust is necessarily unjust. The classic example is people are poor because they choose to be. Poor people just don't have the work ethic to succeed, and it's their own fault that they struggle. The assumption being that poverty is a moral/ethical failing. This absolutely happens. It also absolutely h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:34 PM
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hello there. If I'm misrepresenting your post so be it. That is my understanding, with the inclusion of TRP explicitly because this is a sub about RP and BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:12 PM
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It's just such a wonderful post that absolutely will cause controversy. First, TRP prides itself on identifying that dating is not fair, its one of the most agreed upon 'truths' men have to accept. So, surface level OP is misrepresenting TRP and the stance most men on here take. However, the part I get out the popcorn for is that OP is not arguing against that premise. OP is arguing against how that premise is used by guys here and in TRP. That dating is unfair, the 'average' man doesn't stand a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:06 PM
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agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:55 PM
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So, your definition of 'fair' doesn't exist, you know this but believe some situations can be described as essentially fair if the average difference approaches some indeterminate 'balance' Either fair is something that doesn't exist and the majority of the world uses the word incorrectly, or you just made up a definition of fair that is by your own admission not possible. Which could it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:46 PM
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Give one example of something fair that isn't based on random chance or lack of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:24 PM
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A perfect example of some idiot using that rope to hang himself, even after I explicitly stated why I included those examples. Well done sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:13 PM
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It doesn't. I prepared for the worst and gave this guy some rope with which to hang himself, but he has proven eminently reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:46 PM
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Do you mean here on PPD and the internet? Look man, all I can say is that if someone complains about how they can't get a date because xyz, and xyz has misogynistic language and ideas, then I am perfectly happy to call them a misogynist. Not because they are broke or ugly, which I have no way of knowing, but because of what they said. I have no problem assuming someone flaired TRP is a misogynist because TRP is misogynistic. Seeing someone that identifies as TRP saying "females use hypergamy as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:41 PM
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Okay. I think maybe you need to take a second pass at that answer, lets walk through this: Romantic failure has to be because "you are undesirable" and cannot be because " a person's failure is based on a personal flaw". So, that means there is no situation in which a personal flaw would be undesirable. See the problem here? Being an asshole can be undesirable. Being misogynistic can be undesirable. Someone having a personal flaw and someone being undesirable are not mutually exclusive, and more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:27 PM
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Lets play this out shall we? Man: what do you think about anal sex? Woman: Tried it, didn't enjoy it that much. Man: WHY WOULD YOU TELL ME YOU DID IT BEFORE WHEN YOU KNOW IT WILL JUST PISS ME OFF!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:18 PM
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Alright, I'll bite. What counts as " rejecting the premise that dating is unfair"? Does the advice "be yourself" count as rejecting it? How about "there's plenty of fish in the sea"? I'm just trying to gauge the threshold here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:51 PM
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Let me get my popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:59 AM
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Nice word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:54 AM
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Guess I'll have to trust your experience as a hunter in a nomadic tribe during the ice age. ...Or your just spouting bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:59 AM
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I see, the last line was mocking how obvious it is men on here are trying to make their failures not really be their own fault. It's women's fault because x, societies because y, and so on. Women only want chads so its normal and completely not my fault women wont date me. That kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:26 AM
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This rings of the "if its natural then it must be good" sort of thinking. Anger is natural, but that doesn't make it good. Anger is overwhelmingly negative both for yourself and other people. Men express emotions with anger not because it's more natural than other emotions, but because it's more comfortable and expressing emotion other ways is often seen as not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:23 AM
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Was my sarcasm not coming through? It was sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:17 AM
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No, you're wrong. Obviously you rejected them because you are a woman and therefore lack empathy with men, engage in hypergamy, only chase chads, and are looking for a beta buck to raise your child by another man. None of that is the guy's fault for hitting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:12 AM
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This. It would absolutely destroy most men's egos and confidence because every failure would really be because of their personality and failure to read a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:54 AM
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I would never describe myself as blue pill only because the burden to differentiate is on TRP since that is the movement that specifically tries to differentiate itself as being "the truth/realistic". To me, that means that any shared ideas like "improve your looks and social value to succeed at dating" are irrelevant to choosing, because they are not what differentiates TRP from the mainstream. The only argument that would cause me change my stance would have to be based the ideas that are diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:04 AM
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Those are what TRP says it is about, while ignoring what it is really about which is giving men who are failing arguments and rationalizations for why they are still superior to women, and deserve the best woman around without having to "settle". TRP is about positive self image and not misogyny as much as white nationalism is about self affirmation and not racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:40 AM
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lol. I guess Jack Nicholson was right. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Really though, that's a you problem. Stop whinging like a little bitch and get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:35 AM
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This is just one of those situations when you have to accept the answer you got, not wait for the answer you want. You don't need to understand someone's every motivation to accept their answer. Circumstances change, people change. It doesn't matter why. For me, someone getting fixated on it is just a serious red flag to never ever fucking do what they are asking about. Imagine you are afraid if heights, but went on some carnival ride with a gf in college. Then your LTR says "well you went befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:03 PM
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she doesn't want to. What more reason does anyone need? Especially when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:20 PM
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Its a mixture of two things really in my opinion. 1) Delusion. They are not providers in any sense other than financial (if that), and they are not nice. They are 'nice guys'. They imagine themselves successful by the measure of some before time they hear stories about, not as successful in the world as it exists now. 2) It's a means of selection. Only the kind of 'trad' woman they believe existed in the before times would be looking for someone that describes themselves that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:14 PM
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It's drama. beyond the obvious 'shy girl like me is special and important to the guy that doesn't care about anyone' angle, it's a endless well of conflict to keep the reader engaged. The stereotype of soap opera's having insane plot lines involving murder, lying, long-cons and other things that would be psychopathic in the real world exist for this reason. Conflict creates drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:03 PM
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Yes. This is really probably the root of why so many men here on PPD get angry when in a LTR a woman doesn't do things she did in the past. The guy wants to 'teach' her so to speak, and feel in control, but she already has the experience and refuses to participate in more of it. Now she's not my whore just for me, she's just a whore who refuses to be mine. Something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:58 AM
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You are already getting all the answers. Make an effort to improve the wardrobe, skincare/hygeiene, practice telling stories and keeping interest. If you like comedy, try joining an improve class. The ability to apply "yes and" to conversations will always increase someone's likelihood of wanting to spend time with you. As always, its a numbers game. That doesn't mean triple your interactions per week like someone said, it means keep trying. Failure is normal, it is not a death sentence. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:45 AM
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What? One woman says "ick" and then instantaneously every other woman in the world knows and agrees? The problem with one "ick" is your fragile ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:17 AM
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I have no opinion about it being a valid cause for divorce, no such cause is necessary in most cases. Unless you can prove who is the father then sorry mate, too bad. The money supports the child, so unless you can provide an alternate means of support I got no tears for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:39 AM
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All your comments are about paternity, not divorce. Those that are not about paternity boil down to "don't allow divorce because people shouldn't be allowed to take chances and fail" So really what you keep saying is even more nonsensical than your OP. it's all just hand waving at some bullshit platonic ideal of 'trust' that is eternal and unchanging. relationships change, situations change, things fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:00 AM
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Do you really need someone to explain to you that if you think something is unethical you shouldn't do it? Rationalizing poor behavior is nothing new. If you think that stuff is shitty behavior and you do it you are a shitty person. This is not difficult mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:50 AM
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What is your position here? Women are fine with no fault divorce laws, those laws exist in large part due to feminist movements to ensure people are able to divorce without proving fault, which can be a rather high bar. Are you saying women should only seek no fault divorce? Because if someone can prove fault it is very much in their interest to bring that forward. I think maybe you need to take another swing at this madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:47 AM
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This is not something anyone can explain to you. You fundamentally don't understand that people change with time and circumstance. You used to eat Thai food every week, now you don't. You used to wear jean shorts, now you don't. The narrative is this: just trying to graft logic 101 on every situation makes you sound absurdly ignorant. That hammer can't solve every problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:38 AM
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You might want to google what a 'slippery slope' argument is, because it's a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:08 AM
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I was trying to point out that you might benefit from mentioning in the post that you consider it an example of mommy issues because her mother was absent. It reads as an example of daddy issues because you say 'similar'. That sets it as separate from the description you provide above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:10 AM
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Taylor Swift and someone dating a doctor are examples of giving the average guy a chance? Dating after 30 has nothing to do with the 'women don't give average guys a chance' narrative so many guys here have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:33 AM
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women's bodies are made for emotional support? That's where you landed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:58 AM
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that really is not apparent in your post. It is odd your example of 'mother's issues' only mentions the father. Answered your own question, but I understand now what this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:42 AM
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There was some insane guy on here demanding people explain the difference between anal masturbation and sex some time ago so yeah, the prevalence of porn mixed with a complete lack of awareness really doesn't reflect well on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:35 PM
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yes of course, the only fair responses are those that protect your ego. You do understand your exactly the kind of guy women have to give a fake number to right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:31 PM
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That is a comically made-up example. A) no one expects women to give their real number if they are uncomfortable, so the situation you describe is transparently false. B) Nobody gets made at a guy uncomfortable with his GF giving her real number to guys that hit on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:09 PM
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Just waiting for enough TRP guys to call you a commie for you to realize that this is not unique to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:21 PM
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Ignoring the obvious projection here, you are actually right. That is what happens....when you see strangers. Literally everybody makes a quick assessment based on appearance and behavior. It's called a first impression, and it is very intentionally full of bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:09 PM
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"At 35, they are clinically considered "geriatric" in fertility terms." That you bro? That was one of your premises? Don't try and pretend you gave a measured position and are shocked at the responses. You said some insane bullshit you have to know is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:00 PM
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...look around at the guys here. What you are describing as daddy issues is wildly inconsistent, because its pretty clear that girl's father was not absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:20 PM
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Just be honest, how much of this nonsense you do actually believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:15 PM
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Okay Hari Seldon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:14 AM
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Not really the place for this, so don't be surprised if this post gets locked. Here goes: Obviously he is not telling you the whole story, but I don't see why that matters. Unless you two were introducing family there is no reason for him to do so. Messages on an app is not a commitment, so I really don't think either of you owe anything to the other. If your interested give him a chance. If your just going to doubt everything, which is the vibe I get from your responses, probably best to just m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:11 AM
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Its amazing how many opinions you have about things that fundamentally don't affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:00 AM
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Its often used as a way to speak indirectly about something best left unsaid. As in "he has certain...predilections" which could just as easily be "he has certain...preferences." Its pretty obvious you are not using that way, like you said just one of those minor nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:35 AM
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shaming people generally isn't seen as something that improves mental health. Also, the solution to promiscuous behavior includes getting people to marry for money? Is that what you mean by a basic relationship? Basic cost-benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:38 AM
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Alright mate, I'll bit. Actually, Let me be upfront and say I'll give you enough rope to hang yourself. Explain an effective tool of enforcement for pairing. Let me just remind you this is about dating and mental health, so something about divorce isn't relevant unless you can explain how it is relevant, and the enforcement has to reasonably be expected to improve mental health for the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:21 AM
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What needs to happen to make dating easier? The things you identify as affecting mental health are many of the same things making dating difficult. So in a round about way yes, it would, but not the way you seem to be suggesting. There isn't any feasible way to make dating easier without touching on most of those other issues. Kind of the point really when it comes to mental health; you don't just 'fix' it, its always a process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:11 AM
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predilections. Just gonna point out that's an odd word choice for your wife and children, since its generally associated with immoral or unnatural behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:59 AM
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This is why I specifically noted I was not agreeing with you on anything more than the fact that you happened to phrase your insanity in a sane way in the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:57 PM
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This is a child's idea of leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:38 PM
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He honestly has a point. I'm not claiming this is his point, but the one I see is as follows. Complaining about not getting sex is just something easy to latch on to that men are supposed to want. Really most of these guys are upset because they can't deal with the fact that failure is a part of life. All the other things affecting them like wealth disparity and whatever is just easier to focus onto women and the idea that "things would be fine if I was at least getting laid" Thing is, actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:27 PM
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you go ahead a google "no true scotsman"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:21 PM
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Like VR, the limiting factor is not technology but people themselves. Even assuming all these deterministic premises are true, other factors like greed, ego, and human failure does not garuntee this future. The classic example: VHS vs betamax. Better technology or ability doesn't garuntee success.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:18 PM
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cults be cultin'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:08 PM
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projection is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:37 AM
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Ever heard the saying "same meaning, different feeling"? If you only talk about those issues in the most toxic ways (see: your entire vitriol filled comment that assumes women do see themselves as morally superior beings) then yeah, your not going to be taken seriously. Find a way to get the same meaning with a different feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:57 AM
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same bullshit argument different day. OP, and everyone else, are not saying to ignore problems, but that not all problems are equally prevalent or have equal outcome. You know this, its been explained to you many times. EDIT: Que "of course their not equal look at male suicide rates and homelessness"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:50 AM
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What women are criticizing are men that expect a woman to be their only emotional support, because they refuse to talk to their male friends. That said, the hard turn at the end worked perfectly. Great joke post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:21 AM
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Well, TRP has taken a real deterministic turn with its heavy influence from evolutionary psychology. Its kind serves as a heightened version of the criticisms evolutionary psychology itself gets. One of the many examples of TRP appealing to science without really understanding it in my opinion. But yes, that is why, because TRP relies on very heavy nature based reasoning. It has been my experience that any criticism of that is regarded as "questioning science" or refusing to engage in a discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:27 PM
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I guess its all a way to describe how someone needs to take a step back and ask "does this make sense?" Every city in America has thousands of family homes owned by thousands of couples, no study necessary. Worsening economy, more shared houses, fewer marriages, none of that changes the observation. So, take a conclusion like say '90% of women compete for 10% of men' then where do you go next? That's just observably not true. Explaining why the conclusion itself is false, the step forward, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:08 PM
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What you are describing is forward moving; lets focus on this subject that is out of line with expectations and so find what doesn't fit. I usually try and work backwards. What are the expectations? What happened to get someone here? Its not even that I think you're doing it wrong, rather that that kind of forward thinking is what most often leads to the bad logic and false premises. Like anything else its all well and good when used well, but can quickly turn detrimental when used poorly. Logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:07 PM
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Honestly I have learned very little beyond the many variation of common arguments. The reason I continue to come back is because of something related to many of your comments I see below. Men imagine themselves far more logical and scientifically minded than they actually are. Just in general really, being logical and rational is seen as a virtue in masculinity, but particularly when it comes to TRP since appeals to logic and science are what really set it apart from other dating movements. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:34 PM
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It's almost like human beings are not necessarily rational in their decision making or eternally consistent and unchanging in their wants and needs. That any model that that assumes deterministic patterns of behavior fail to fully explain the human experience. You got 90% there, now you just need to go the last 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:17 PM
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The fact that you are there demonstrates they are not women only spaces. This isn't even some 'technicality' bs point. If you go to a party and then get mocked and yelled at by everyone until you leave and decide "well there all assholes" you are gonna sound pretty fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:12 PM
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I think you might have got your argument twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:05 PM
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Several people have mentioned the same idea here. Is this a common view for why fertility is so low in those countries? Because of gender wars?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:03 PM
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I'll be honest, going down the rabbit hole of checking up on this is just not something I am going to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:00 PM
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No? switching "you do" to "do you" changes this so drastically I'm not sure what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:41 AM
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Worst poem I ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:29 AM
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I know, a marine buddy of mine once told me so in a crowded bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:26 AM
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Pretty sure I can identify why you might have problems based on that comment. Desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:24 AM
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Jesus mate. Immediately deciding "nice cock" is the right compliment is the most clear example of outing yourself and your insecurities I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:13 AM
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Not gonna lie, I knew a really hot half-Korean Mildred and I absolutely destroyed even the possibility of anything happening by constantly annoying her by calling her that instead of Millie. I am fundamentally unable to date someone named Roxanne for different reasons, but admittedly; I'm an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:01 AM
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This is some defeatist nonsense. At no point do you actually say what you do to even try and get dates. The entire thing is about her telling you the steps she is taking to find someone, and you bitching about how nobody acknowledges how good you are. What, its 52 dates or go fuck yourself? The real honest truth is that if you are trying, actually fucking taking steps to date beyond "I made a profile on tinder" and failing every single time to get a date; then you are failing. It is you. You nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:57 AM
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It confirms what everyone already knows, TRP and normies. If you are not finding success, you need alter your behavior/patterns. Fail to change anything and nothing will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:47 AM
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You have fun in that officiated debate you're having in your head where it makes sense to take the most narrow interpretation possible and use it as the basis of criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:34 AM
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So yes, you do think think its intellectually honest. Thanks babe!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:29 AM
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What is this in reference to? Both Korea(s) and Japan are very patriarchal and always have been. what does "Both sides pushed the extremes off the fucking cliff" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:13 AM
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Let me just ask you: Do think this is an intellectually honest argument? Do you really think just zoning in on the wording "no one" and claiming that's why you commented is something anyone (oh no, there's that opportunity for you) will believe? You failed to mention it until she pointed out the obvious and you couldn't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:09 AM
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Really its that feminism understands the value of PR. In the past feminism was much more specific and confrontational, specifically to deal with the larger systemic and cultural problems of the time. As gains were made, the language and tone shifted, because continuing in such an aggressive and confrontational way seemed out of place to the genuine effort and change occurring. Then, as feminism became more inclusive in its language and ideology, it was a lot easier to look at it and go "duh, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:53 PM
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I think of more as an Lyndon Johnson style "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:06 PM
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Dating apps increase competition among women that use them. The chad man they all want has access to a larger pool of potential women than he would have without it. I'm going to go throw up after framing things in such a moronic way so you can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:55 PM
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Wow. You really tried to turn that around on me huh? I made another comment to one of yours, and this only demonstrates my point further.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:43 PM
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"Men are obviously acting according to principles and beliefs, however misguided. Women aren't even capable of that, they just follow their instincts." You really do make this too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:39 PM
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This comment is fascinating. See, you've actually just identified that dating within a 'direct-vicinity' is an absolute good. Yet, in other threads you defend passport bros on the basis that they are not exploiting women. Its like, I understand why you compared those two things in OP based on this comment, but none of your other comments align with this. I'm starting to think you less malicious in purpose and more just confused and incapable of really following your own logic to its conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:35 PM
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The fact that with even the slightest pressure you came up with a new example that is obviously not exploitative tells me you absolutely know the difference between dating online and the stereotypical passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:27 PM
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This is indecipherable. Maybe try a second draft that has the right words (components - compensate) and some explanation beyond just "sex has more value to men" because sex is not the only component of a date or especially of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:10 PM
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I think that because there are fewer tangible ways to just see and know women are inferior that men have had to become more vocal in describing why they think women are inferior. In the past you knew your boss would be a man, the secretaries would let you flirt and so on. The consequences of treating women as inferior/poorly were fewer. Now, men can't just look and know they are better as easily, so they start vocalizing these RP style arguments to justify why men are still better. EDIT: just vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:55 PM
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Found out your crush bought a new dress and hasn't shown you yet huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:42 PM
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You don't have to dislike women to think less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:35 PM
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Also part of it. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:29 PM
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Gen Z were raised on the internet and missed Vietnam. Don't know what they have to complain about Boomers were raised on tv and didn't deal with WWII. Don't see what they have to complain about. The greatest generation was raised on radio and missed WWI. Nothing to complain about. Also, are you just not aware of the 2 decades of war that were going on until recently? The fact that you didn't even think to mention it tells me you're the entitled shit that didn't fucking do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:48 AM
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Fair. My point is that using the word entitled is the wrong way to think about it. Its got so much baggage, particularly of the "kids these days" variety that it just sounds stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:15 PM
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So, RP names itself after the pill representing reality and the truth, and then everyone else names goes along with BP to mock you, and dammit that's just unfair! Take me seriously guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:57 PM
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They saw both the youngest president ever in Kennedy to represent them, and the two oldest presidents in Trump and Biden to represent them. There is a case to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:53 PM
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This is amazing. So many RP guys imagine themselves the madman screaming about the death of god only to be laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:45 PM
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Most people when they say its entitled to not date a woman/man with children mean if you have that as a hard rule. Like no moms no matter what. Its so dismissive not only of them as individuals but it also seems counter to a lot of the ideas that are the basis of a LTR. You avoided them for the most part, but many guys when they complain about single moms are complaining about things that exist in any relationship. I'm sure you or someone will say that somewhere someone said even preferring chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:40 PM
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This is probably the wrong way to think about it. Past generations felt just as entitled, just about different things. As the number of things we as a society agree a person should be entitled to shifts away from the things people could count on previously, the things people still feel entitled to become more apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:30 PM
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hows that "I'm not a misogynist but women especially are more entitled than men" going for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:27 PM
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Mate, 1&2 are based on your failures. Not even an accusation, its fine to be aware of your own limitations, but they both amount to "I can't relate to or socialize with people well unless..." As for 3, just watch Succession. Inheritance is always contentious. Fortunately, nobody can accuse you of anything since you'll be dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:23 PM
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lol. Everyone loves an underdog right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:48 PM
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whatever I was expecting, it wasn't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:47 PM
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You consistently demonstrate your misogyny with a "women need to be responsible for themselves" smokescreen. Also, I'll note you're clearly smart enough to realize the main thing people hate about RP is how sexist it is, so the fact that you immediately honed in on that as the thing to contest is rather telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:34 PM
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Blue pill is just anything not red pill. Maybe it started as satire, but it has mostly taken the form of anything not red pill by RP. RP has run with it and anything that doesn't fit the RP model is BP. Most often I see it described as 'not results oriented' advice by RP, while outside of RP its just considered common sense or 'normal' advice not reliant on the most common foundations from RP like hypogamy, alpha/beta behavior, and things that contradict 'observable innate natural patterns' ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:50 PM
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just change your flair already man. You ain't tricking anyone with that 'blue-ish' when you make comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:25 PM
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That's what you saw in the media growing up and remember because it reinforced what you already believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:24 PM
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LOL Because your comfort isn't the most important thing to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:42 PM
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you overestimate the niceguy. Plus, even if they do last the weeks until the date, there is still the date to decide. See, being comfortable 'losing' someone you haven't even been on a date with is a good sign. You can always try to strike something up again later if it falls apart. This time with a better idea of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:23 AM
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My guess is that it helps weed out r/niceguys either because they freak out before then, or are too needy and desperate to wait that long. A guy that can comfortably wait a few weeks doesn't need a GF for all his emotional support. Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:06 AM
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no, they don't. As pointed out already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:27 AM
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people stop developing biologically at 15? News to me. Unless you are using a very narrow definition of 'biological adult'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:22 AM
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pun intended. Well then I imagine you are going to get a lot of responses of "wtf are you on about". Entertaining for me, but then I did my bit to try and give some advice. FYI: specifically asking how to alter what you provided is not like asking a Trump supporter if they'll vote for Trump, its like asking them if they think Trump's stance on boarder control is enough and how to tweak or improve it. Which btw are questions that get asked. Is my suggestion making more sense now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:18 AM
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some people explicitly advocate outlawing alcohol. Look mate, If you want some serious answers to this I would suggest limiting yourself to asking only people that do actually support that kind of stepped AOC. Just asking 'women' isn't enough. Its like asking the average person why they think alcohol should be illegal. They don't. I'm going to give you benefit of the doubt here and believe that you failed to realize how asking that question here would be taken. But the answer is its such a weird…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:10 AM
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I know the solution. What is being pointed out by me and others is you didn't do that. What you chose reflects on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:04 AM
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I think you'll find most people understand the difference between moral, ethical, social, and legal objections to certain behavior. Just saying "well women don't approve of age-gap relationships so lets see if they mean it" and then suggesting changes to age of consent laws is pretty dumb mate. Someone can be opposed to drinking without wanting to outlaw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:00 AM
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Once again, the point is the stepped AOC to what end? Most states laws regarding teenage sex are already more restrictive than what you proposed with 15 as the starting point. Your continued instance that this is more restrictive than most laws that already exist in regards to minors just is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:56 AM
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But its not necessary to address those laws. Just get rid of those clauses, or heavily restrict them. The rest of it doesn't make sense for that purpose, so what is the purpose? Just to flat out prevent large age-gap relationships? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:41 AM
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It really wasn't bold, but then I'm going to argue about the articles your imagining in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:28 PM
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I think you might be misunderstanding the intent of those articles. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them are intended to counter the perception that men are better at those things, or just flat out better. I think a lot of those articles probably fall into the trap of validating supremacist thinking and logic, but they are not intended to say women are superior. Rather that women are A) superior at some thing or B) not inferior in that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:18 PM
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wow. Couldn't even pretend that 'no pill' flair was real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:14 PM
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This counts as RP now? Maintaining a relationship? Seriously, what the fuck do you imagine differentiates RP from anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:00 PM
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Twitter said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:58 PM
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This is probably nonsense for the simple fact that relationships of any kind do not break into discreet parts. You don't have to be in love with someone to eventually hate them, or think they are a bad influence on a child, or any other thing that leads to divorce and broken homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:03 PM
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exactly. She obviously married up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:11 PM
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glad you found someone your willing to live with. Your spouse must be thrilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:06 PM
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Again, that's just you complaining about someone else. Do you not see that by insisting your standards are fine you are proving my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:01 PM
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no, those are reasons you want someone else (women) to lower their standards. What do you need to lower about your own standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:57 PM
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Ah yes, the consequences of your own actions strike again. See, the thing is RP guys will say "obviously men are hornier than women and willing to fuck a woman he's not very attracted to." What that means is that preferences are basically non-existent, because they fail to actually alter behavior. He's going to say yes no matter what. So whats the right word for men? Fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:28 PM
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You'll see my reasoning elsehwere on this post, but I'll explain so you don;t have to search. When confronted with someone saying "they are nothing alike" he always responds "well they must be in some way" and demands an answer that fits his reasoning. The narcissism is that he refuses to accept any answer that says his reasoning is wrong. He has to be right somehow, and everyone is just failing to explain to his satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:47 PM
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This is so many layers deep of bizarrely fucked up I am actually impressed. Like, I can't even be mad at the racist subtext, lack of regard for religion in a persons life, describing of women as objects to be acquired, or even the RP 'beta male' language. It all meshes together into something amazing. Bringing Andrew Tate up is just the shit cherry atop this insane sundae.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:42 PM
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Its not even that you are wrong, or that this post is offensive in any way. What bothers me is the appeasement demonstrated by trying to explain such a simple concept in the framing of RP ideology. It just doesn't deserve that much consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:35 PM
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As someone who was also in the military, do not take military experiences of marriage as something to compare to. Marriage in the military is often the most fucked up versions of any situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:26 PM
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Alright. Explain to me how exactly "Well my view isn't that polarized." is a coherent response to what I said without having to make the 'polarized' interpretation do some real heavy lifting that wouldn't better fit a more appropriate and common word. Maybe I'm missing something and that's fine. Based on all his further comments its pretty clear English his is first language, but given the medium that is not always guaranteed. I was giving him an out that might make his insanity less insane due …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:30 PM
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...this comment really doesn't help the perception on this sub that women are out of touch with absurd expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:17 AM
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how high are you right now? How does this relate at all to my comment or even the parts you copied?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:14 AM
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Not gonna lie, I had to google that and it is not a rabbit hole I care to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:06 AM
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I'm trying to work out what this idiot is after. its either a) jerk off material, the leading theory right now b) he has a very very specific idea about what sex is/should be and is looking for examples of societies failure to admit that 'truth' c) something even more insane
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:58 AM
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See, the problem I think you'll find is that you say these things, and then use descriptions that are actually full of shit. "No one in good faith would ever make the ludicrous assertion that men are not, on average significantly bigger and stronger than women." Whats so fucking significant about it? Nothing. You just want it to be significant because that makes you feel better. It is not significant, and the point people make to you constantly (I assume) is that the difference doesn't fucking m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:55 AM
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Conservatives aren't exactly well known for staying out of people's personal decisions. I mean neither are liberals as far as politicians go, but conservatives are so damn self-righteous about it they need a swift punch to the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:49 AM
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You framed this in such a weird way. Therapy can change patterns of behavior and thinking. Those things can alter who someone finds attractive. I just don't get why you thought this framing would be helpful. Why would anyone want to intentionally and specifically use therapy to lower their standards? I'm just saying, if you make a conscious effort to lower your standards you are going to know you did that, and it doesn't change you thinking you 'should' be worth higher standards. It is an exerci…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:44 AM
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I'm curious, is this sincere? It just seems like your giving this guy way too much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:32 AM
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Its not that we are close minded, its that he obviously isn't looking for understanding, he's looking for something specific and we are not providing, either incidentally or maliciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:26 AM
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You know what the best part is, you continuously demand people explain things for you yet when anyone asks you to explain suddenly you go silent. Almost like its not just a question being posed for the sake of understanding or curiosity, but rather you posted with a very specific purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:24 AM
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Do you mean sex? I am 100% sure you have never had sex. That's not even an insult, its just the only thing that explains such an absurd post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:22 AM
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If you understand that how something feels is dependent on the individual, explain to me why you think asking "What does sex for a woman feel like" is a valid question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:14 AM
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There is no answer you moron. That's the point everybody is trying to make. You asked a nonsensical question but are too self absorbed to even listen when people tell you it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:11 AM
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It'll be a lot easier for an A.I. to move to a country that protects it than a person to move to another country. Vote with your feet has never been a realistic expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q Great video on why the metaverse and 'full' simulated reality are nonsense. Key points: no representation of the metaverse has ever been grounded in reality technology and peoples use of it trends towards efficiency, which is antithetical to a full 3d virtual world The hard limit on immersion is not technology but the human body and mind
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:02 AM
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Mate, you have been told by multiple people that are trying to be helpful that your comparison is wrong and useless, and your only response has been "okay but..." and you keep insisting that someone engage with your premise. Your premise is wrong. You now know this. Stop looking for the answer you want and accept the answer you got, which incidentally is the truth. You are wrong to think about sex this way. You are wrong. Your continued insistence that someone provide an answer that confirms you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:45 PM
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Charles is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:31 PM
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....Is English your first language? genuine question, that was an incredibly odd statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:29 PM
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no, it didn't. Everybody is laughing at you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:21 PM
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Mate you just asked a woman to describe the sensation of sex to you. If you don't understand why that's fucking creepy and weird or obviously meant for personal gratification then no one can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:21 PM
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I'm asking you a question based on your insane claim that all orifices must feel similar enough to be worth comparing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:19 PM
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yes of course, because you are getting so many positive responses. I gave it to you straight, which you clearly need since you thought you could make that insane post and be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:18 PM
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go jerk off to something else. There is plenty to be found on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:15 PM
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Do you think putting something in your ear is similar to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:14 PM
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Your entire premise is fucking insane. Do not try and frame it as some audacious outsider thinking. This is insane bullshit imagined by a narcissist. You want to know what a dildo in your ass feels like? Anal masturbation, same for a woman. And for the love of god never fucking put something from anyone's ass into a vagina. I sincerely hope you are a child to not know something so basic and to think this line thinking is at all sane. Fucking fix yourself mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:12 PM
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Like anything else reliant on impossible technology, what is the point of this post? Also, what would prevent someone from determining such an A.I. is in fact sapient and therefore deserving of protections from slavery or forced relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:08 PM
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What the actual fuck mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:01 PM
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I didn't. now google pogs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:04 PM
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You go ahead and google beany babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:02 PM
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those shrooms are kicking in hard eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:30 AM
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As stated, it seems to founded on his interpretations of mythologies no longer practiced at the time of writing and his suppositions of ancient cultures. Look man, I didn't read the whole thing in the past 20 minutes, but even what I did has some pretty clear problems. He cites cultures that only allow a husband to speak the name of their wife as an example of female power rather than say a demonstration of ownership. The point is he is creating a narrative, and even in his introduction admits t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:57 PM
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I didn't demand that from you, pretty sure you are confusing me with another thread you got going.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:47 PM
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the fact that you are so adamant about distinguishing between a law and a theory tells me you have no fucking idea what a scientific theory actually is. Incidentally I'm not sure it even is a law. Skimming through The Mothers his writing clearly has the expected flow of a work from that time, so calling his thesis a law when its based on half understood mythologies and suppositions of ancient cultures is a stretch. Comparing it to Newton even more so. Its a law in the same way evolution is a law…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:45 PM
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I wouldn't try. You clearly have missed the point. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:25 PM
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of course. Who is the most relevant person to quote when discussing modern dating culture in 2024? a surgeon born in 1874.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:23 PM
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mating behavior is a biological science. Dating is a social science. You know what its called when you apply biological methodologies to social sciences? Social Darwinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:58 PM
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evolution is the best tool to analyze modern dating habits? See, science isn't just one thing, and one subject of science doesn't apply to all things. but hey, every problem is a nail when all you have is hammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:35 PM
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au contraire. Pointing out the absurdity is the only worthy contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:15 PM
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This week in pseudoscience bullshit because I'm too self absorbed and narcissistic to imagine people that don't quote "science" have anything of value to contribute to a discussion about complex social interactions... Women look for multiple things in a potential partner. Riveting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:45 PM
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Scene opens on a young lostcoshermanos adjusting his tie for prom. He winks into the mirror, damn he looks good and the sash was absolutely the right call. Talk about beefcake. He hears his fathers steps in the other room, loud and violent. He hears his mothers pleas, and his siblings as well. The man didn't work today, and so did not have money for booze. They would endure, as all had before. This one night belongs only to himself, and even his father will not ruin it. Well, himself and one oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:54 PM
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Damn taylor swift for...checks notes....going to football games. She obviously forced everyone participating and the stadium to focus on her, they had no choice!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:06 PM
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Wait you seriously went and read his posts? Mad respect mate. I guess now I have to own up. It has been a while since bottleblank and I argued on here, so maybe his posts are getting better and I didn't bother to check. From my experience what sets him off is people "not taking his/men's/someones" problems seriously. He constantly tries to equivocate personal social problems with systemic cultural ones, and falls back on the same "homelessness/suicide/depression" examples while denying the possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:01 PM
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I'll compare it to someone when they say "actually, Frankstein was the scientist" We know. We all know, its annoying to point out, stop being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:47 PM
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Go take a dive into the mind of bottleblank and you too will see he needs to be told to stop feeling sorry for himself and expecting the world to mourn with his every grievance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:58 PM
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It is a disheartening experience, I agree. You think there is something to latch on to but then its like "oh, nope. Same shit different day."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:45 PM
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It was a light-hearted critique, but yeah. Even then you are reaching for the stars. Rarely do I find someone that both believes the nonsense underlying these kinds of posts and is capable of making a coherent argument that is tangent to reality. Not even real, just close to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:29 PM
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I really want you to consider what it means that posts with what you consider a "good premise" are actually insane rants. I had no idea this 'all lives matter" rally was going to be full of neo-nazis.....again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:17 PM
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I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:14 PM
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Yes, all those ways women can use their sexuality to gain things from men is absurd. Damn them for accepting things given to them! And if they don't want to use their sexuality to gain favors? Well their women so obviously they all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:11 PM
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So, I'll give you some leeway here because OP takes a pretty aggressive tone, But the point I think is that it may be possible to naturally not have those kinds of interactions given hobbies/location, but that doesn't make it normal or something anybody else needs to care about. At some point you need to take responsibility for yourself and your choices. Nobody forced you to not interact, it was just easy to avoid and focus on other things. That is not normal, and not something a woman needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:50 PM
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your tears of rage are showing mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:45 PM
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I just want to point out she is echoing a lot of the sentiment I have already provided you many many times. At some point you have to take responsibility for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:44 PM
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lol. He really thought you would argue that. love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:42 PM
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Yeah, that's probably the bit that needs to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:16 PM
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As clarified elsewhere, the apocalyptic tone that its an immediate problem of dire consequence is where the origins become clear. Also, the solutions presented are comically stupid. Combined, we get OP not really knowing where this stuff comes from or its purpose; just hearing a reasonable sounding argument and running with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:50 PM
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Of course, I forgot Japan is the only asian country. Oh wait, its not, and has one of the highest racial homogeneity of any nation in the world. Because you know, racism. It doesn't take much thought to realize a lot of Asians from other countries around Japan would want to live and work in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:46 PM
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well now I'm curious, who exactly am I parroting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:34 PM
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its just too much of a discussion to have here knowing you are just going to nitpick and be a little bitch about everything. If you want to learn go learn, if not then I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:32 PM
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a poor example, as japan is in fact incredibly racist. You don't maintain a 98% racially homogeneous population by being inclusive. Maybe they could alleviate their population woes by being less racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:29 PM
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nobody is forcing people to socialize less. Yes, the economy is a significant contribution to lower birth rates. With that said, you really got yourself in a chicken and egg situation by saying we need higher birthrates to maintain the economy. How about improving the income inequality on the bases that doing so will improve birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:26 PM
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Agreed, I gave you the information, do your own research like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:21 PM
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but the apocalyptic tone is very clearly a result of racist rhetoric. I'm not saying OP is racist, I'm saying they don't understand the source of this "big problem" or the agenda behind it. Neither do you apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:15 PM
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They originate with great replacement theory, that minorities and immigrants have higher birth rates, even if those higher rates don't meet the equilibrium. Fluctuations in birth rates are normal. They exist on generational and therefore very long timelines. The factors that contribute to birthrates are so diverse and numerous that realistically any attempt at prediction not dependent on a single influence that outstrips all others (like a one-child policy or something) are just guesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:05 PM
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yeah, but OP specifies it being a problem for men in dating, so maybe stick to the assignment mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:50 PM
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Do people here seriously not know that arguments about population decline were designed to specifically be racist? I really wonder if people understand where these ideas originate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:37 PM
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A surprisingly competent attempt to dress up the obligatory "women are entitled and out of touch and need to understand I'M the average" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:29 PM
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"There is a case to be made that much of the stereotyping and fearmongering against black men and ethnic minority men in particular, is a more exaggerated and amplified stereotype of men in general, that they are violent, aggressive, brutish criminals." True. The thing is, the primary influence deciding when those behaviors seen as being male are dangerous is race. White men may be more aggressive than women but they are not a problem that needs to be dealt with, boys will be boys after all, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:51 PM
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Sure, because working overtime and doing a job you don't like more than another option are moral virtues. Master is always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:36 PM
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It is the right direction, but you're still falling into the trap of trying to understand complex social interactions with a limited model, specifically science and logic. If you are actually trying to improve your interactions and your experience of those interactions, I would recommend trying to move further towards a "take things as the are" approach. Soak up everything and accept the explanations people give as true unless you have some specific reason to think they are lying or have an agen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:31 PM
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I'm in a good mood so I'll be nice. You seem to be arguing form the perspective that affermitive action has 'solved' gender bias and now all gains made are to the disadvantage of men in favor of women. Basically we reached equality 50-50, and continued feminist efforts move towards inequality. This just isn't true. It's just not. I do not believe you are so socially insulated you actually think that society has reached full equality between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:11 PM
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Alright, I'll take you seriously for a minute. Lets go through the list shall we? Homelessness: A serious problem. It does affect men more than women. Its worth considering what either gender is subjected to while homeless when discussing systemic inequality. I would rather be a homeless man than a homeless woman, because of systemic inequity, but I have no interest in getting into a "cite your sources" bs debat. I am happy to just agree that this is one problem that is both primarily influenced…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:07 PM
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yes of course, because government aid like welfare and tax credits/loopholes (forgot about those eh?) are famously gender specific and primarily advantage women. All those billionaire CEO women. Of course, you were unable to figure out that even only discussing welfare as you intended the fact that it benefits women more than men could actually be an indicator that women are on average less well off than men....and in greater need of aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:45 PM
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You obviously thought about this more deeply than I figured. Glad I could be of use. OCD point: sex jokes are amoral in your example. Meaning they lack moral weight. You meant to say immoral. Not something to bring up to the gf should the topic arise again, just a pet peeve of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:39 PM
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and none of your whataboutism makes systemic inequality less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:28 PM
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income, political representation, leadership positions, abortion debates, ect ect. Anyone claiming women have the same opportunities as men is either A) delusional B) lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:26 PM
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thank you for proving my point. Men like you need our problems to be systemic and worse than women's to justify your victim complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:22 PM
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And your list of examples are tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:21 PM
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Insecurity is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:51 PM
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Most people know this. Not on here, but in the world. I guess my point is inviting people to talk about it on PPD will only invite the deterministic pseudoscience crowd. This is an extreme example, but you are doing the equivalent of inviting racists to discuss the actual social contributions and impacts of minorities. That doesn't matter, they are racists, and all those things are excuses for their actual opinion. Same with all the pill guys (RP is the only pill, BP is just a catchall for anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:45 PM
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Real galaxy brain stuff. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:36 PM
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*Edit, I answered the inverse* Women *have it worse*. Systemic oppression and inequality is such a broad problem it touches on everything else. That is the reason so many guys on here try to claim there is systemic oppression of men, because it is so clearly worse than personal or 'purely' social problems (like being called a creep). If the world or western civilization has a misandrist agenda then men get to be the oppressed, despite all the continued evidence that men have more power and oppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:33 PM
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....Yeah. I mean this sounds like a bunch of bs, but even assuming its true why would it surprise you? Nobody likes when someone punches down. RP influencers are punching down, and I guess what we are calling 'RP like' women influencers are punching up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:22 AM
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I see what your trying to do here mate, and I don't question your sincerity so I'll try not to be harsh but this is not a good road to go down. This is not empathy. in fact, used too broadly, which your post gets damn close to, it is antithetical to empathy. You've tried to twist an entirety different mode of thinking to fit yours, and used that as an example of empathy. Empathy is actually trying to inhabit another persons experience and modes of thinking. Basically, You found a way to fit that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:52 AM
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oh look another post abou....YAWN
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:35 AM
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another whinging child that imagines himself a man. Welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:24 AM
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Yes, that's obviously what I meant. And completely relevant to my point. Oh wait, its just some bullshit 'whataboutism' from a fucking moron. OP is about a law, not just a facebook group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:54 AM
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exactly how many chances do you imagine you should get to try and make something obviously stupid sound reasonable? He even clarified in his response "all the time". Do you think millionaires represent what happens "all the time"? Are they a valuable marker for the average experience? Or, are they as I described, the fringe. You know, in the fact that they represent less than a percent of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:24 AM
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Or join the military. That's what I did when my fiance left me to become a stripper. Can't say things got better, but they sure as hell changed. Jokes aside, I do think some drastic change in routine can be enough to shake things loose and get the process moving. But I'm not a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:30 PM
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the data breach is all the government ID information, not that someone has a dating profile. Are you intentionally misunderstanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:21 PM
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no mate, most people don't want a relationship with someone "showing too much weakness or too much mental instability." You seem to be arguing that the threshold of "too much" is so low that there is no room for 'enough'. That is wrong, that's my point. Too much really is too much, not just a mislabeled threshold that makes it impossible to have a LTR. It makes it impossible for you because you got a lot of shit to deal with. I'm not trying to diminish that or its importance, but just expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:13 PM
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exactly. Your "all the time" example is Bill Gates. Stop digging that hole mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:01 PM
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Honest question: Why do guys always bring up the most fringe cases for this crap? Bill Gates? Seriously? He is famously one of the richest men in the world. Yeah, you successfully identified fucking Bill Gates can do nothing at home and get a wife, but you were unsuccessful in realizing that 99.999999999% of the men in the world are not comparable to Bill Gates. This is like the saddest version of the "when I'm a millionaire" mindset. You honestly thought bringing up Bill gates would prove your …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:22 PM
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Damn all those rich model high status men that do nothing but play video games all day and get spoiled by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 09:55 PM
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the kind you seem to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0B_ekSrsEk Yeah mate, peoples expectations of themselves, especially men, seems really fucking low. Really though, that's all you should need to do in a relationship. It doesn't need to be some dramatic bs that overtakes your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:26 PM
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Another great point. It won't prevent fraud, it will just add identity theft to the list of crimes. You don't need to enter information accurate to you, just information accurate to some government ID. Steal a wallet and you have a new profile. As for where to get some new ID's? Turns out dating apps will be a great source.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:51 PM
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good for you. How you personally would use it doesn't matter, what matters is how it could be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:35 PM
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I laughed. Still, considering who the "MUH FREEDOMS!!!" people are, please don't group us all together. Some people in 'Merica have brains, if not always education.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:31 PM
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You have a point here. Not your sexist bullshit, but that requiring ID would make it much easier to harass women on dating sites. Cindy(27) from San Fran really is Cindy. Lets go ruin her life because she laughed at me when I told her I do close-up magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:05 PM
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So there is absolutely nothing in there about marital status. It is specifically about monetary fraud, making a false profile to get money from another user. With that said, the requirement for a government ID would not solve the issue of fraud. All it would do is make people use their real information when creating an account, they can still lie to get money, they just can't falsely claim to a woman or whatever. It doesn't make it any easier to find legal recourse either, it just makes a requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:49 PM
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This is a you problem. You need professional help. The way your describing 'vulnerability' is clearly indicative of some serious mental health issues. Also, I found the exact opposite is true. I am extremely private and stoic and never tell anyone my problems, and when I was younger (the age I am imagining for you btw) women always left because I never gave them anything to latch on to for a LTR. People want to feel needed. showing vulnerability is how a partner knows they are needed. that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:23 PM
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The answer is that progressive movements have historically been about progress for oppressed groups. Because of that, the language and focus is not really well suited to the kinds of social progress you're talking about for men. Feminism should already cover these changes your talking about for men, and a lot of feminists do include them; a shift in focus from oppression towards equality does address them. However, because there still exists a great deal of sexism and oppressive views towards wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:13 PM
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No True Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 05:04 PM
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and that's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:26 AM
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"but she wanted it" is never going to be a good defense. I don't mean legally, obviously legally OP is fine, I mean socially. More to the point, its about the 27yo man's actions and desires that are what make it creepy and predatory. Nobody blames the younger person, especially when they are conceivably at an age where they are not really expected to be making good decisions. To use an inflammatory example that people will (I hope) understand: Nobody blames teenagers for recording themselves or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:33 AM
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You clearly wrote this after reading a bunch of comments because OP says 19, not 21. Still, to address your actual point: yes, you correctly identified that different circumstances have different results. Just saying things used to be different or that some people have different circumstances is not helpful here. Things are they way they are now, in the place he is. Now, I assumed that to be America/Western Europe, but you seem to have made the same assumption so I'm not sure why your bitching a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:20 AM
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The real answer is that a 27yo is different in almost every way from a 19yo. Sexual experience is the least important measure for compatibility. the more real answer is that while I can't define where the line is exactly: a 27yo coming up with reasons to date someone 8 years younger and still a teenager is incredibly creepy and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:35 AM
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It is baffling to me how consistently people on this sub look for bullshit pseudoscience answers for every possible thing. There is just no way you're going to get an even remotely scientific answer to this and it is completely you're own fault for asking the question so poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:49 AM
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I am a man, I know the perspective. To be clear though I'm not saying men need to be friends after rejection. I'm saying if you don't value friendship and dating equally then don't try and be friends. I see how you got there, a lot of the time on this sub people argue against something as a way to argue for the opposite, but that was not my intention. I do think its better to be mature enough to value platonic relationships as much as dating, but I'm not here to tell people to be better. It's mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:38 AM
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That was completely from left field. Honestly that was so jarring I have no follow-up or reaction. You do you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:34 AM
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while putting on makeup is not the only thing that's normalized, I get your point. That's the hand being dealt, play it or don't. If you don't that's on you. Men don't "risk rejection". Rejection and failure are normal, in all facets of life. Nobody is owed success. All that's at risk is your ego, and that shit don't matter to anyone but you. I already know someone is going to respond that rejection means being ostracized by their friends or whatever and has real consequences, but that's bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:14 AM
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This kind of thinking is wrong from the start. The fixation with dating is the problem. There is not a linear progression from stranger -> friend -> boyfriend. You need to be mature enough to show interest and when rejected actually be capable of being friends. Not 'nice guy wait for my opening' bullshit, let her know your interested and if she says no then be friends. Whether things can progress from there is irrelevant. You need to be able to see friendship and dating as equally valuable to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:01 AM
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yeah....this is some bullshit, but you got near the point. The real problem is that the things women need to do to get dates are so normalized they are seen as not doing anything. Its just normal. What men need to do is not as normalized so its seen as something requiring effort, effort most women already put in everyday. I love the scene in Master of None when Aziz goes on a date with a girl who wears a dirty hoody, spends the whole time on her phone and then mentions for the second date she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:48 AM
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What? This makes no sense. What is there to take personally and from whom? You seem to be talking about society/women in general, which is just stupid. Nobody made those men fail until their 30s. The idea of taking it personally is just strange, and completely lacks any sense of personal agency. The world did not conspire against them, or you. You made choices that entire time, as did everybody else in the world. You seem fine btw, I'm not frustrated at you, I'm frustrated that you seem to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:18 AM
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That's my general understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:05 PM
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"moral injustice" Perfect. As I said already, you are appealing to some purely academic sense of morality that is completely lacking in context of what has actually occurred and is occurring in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:41 AM
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*edit* for some reason reddit copied a later portion of my post over the beginning, that's annoying. Thanks for the context, I couldn't figure out why you believed men calling submission cooperation were being honest. I think it comes down to a view of hierarchy being not only true, but necessarily true. The idea of "well someone has to decide at some point" brought to its logical end. Basically, I think these men are saying at some point someone decides, and they want to be the final voice. Let…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:27 AM
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people lack self respect. People are delusional. People are selfish. Maybe I just read into it but your whole vibe seems to be that those are all failings of some kind, but they are just being human. The problem is trying to frame it in a 'logically consistent' way which is what you seem to be attempting to do. Applying that measure of logic is where you went wrong. Not even trying to be aggressive about it, though I am in a mindset from other discussions I am having. You seem sincere, so I am t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:10 AM
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A surprisingly accurate view, about women being included with minorities at least. The common factor, and the one that you clearly think also includes men but obviously doesn't, is that there is an oppressor group. I had a great conversation with someone about the failings of feminism for black women in particular. Good times that. But no, see you are doing the exact same thing of trying to equate them and men's issues as a whole with your "men don't isn't really based on anything of actual subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:04 AM
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don't be the idiot that interrupts my cat fight with bottleblank there. Just enjoy the show mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:55 AM
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If you can only frame this as "lowering standards" then you failed the test before it even began. My point being you are thinking of it the wrong way from the beginning. Also, just as a bit of advice, it is never going to go well if you imply you or someone else 'settled' for a 'lower standard' in your/their relationship. Also, relationships don't end because someone in that relationship, or both people, failed at something. I read through your comments and that's another one you seem to be look…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:43 AM
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You need to take some literacy courses about context. All you said was that you think its unfair people include context in their understanding of what you say and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:32 AM
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Oh look. Its you. Boo hoo your feelings are valid and you really are the victim. It is not arbitrary. I have explained this to you before. You. Those tactics were used against an oppressor group. There is no oppressor group for men. Blah blah feminism I know, but you are just wrong. See, here is the motivating factor for men like you. All you know about feminism is the abrasive tactics, it was the only part that broke through to you because you ignored the rest of it. Those things OP is saying? …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:30 AM
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it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:51 PM
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Exactly. What I keep repeating to guys on this sub is that trying to adopt the abrasive and adversarial style of past social movements to force change will not work. Should not work honestly. Men, especially white men, do not get to adopt those tactics. But, so many guys here see a few real problems and then feel like they are entitled to the same movements and tactics and so on of previous social movements. They use it as an opportunity to be assholes while with a veneer of social champions lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:21 PM
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This is so confusing. Explain yourself. How did you get from my comment to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:05 PM
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*getting the popcorn ready* Now for the show. Incidentally, I agree with you. One thing worth pointing out is that one of the most prevalent forms of social action, the language of social action and inciting society at large to engage with the topic even if that means being adversarial, just will not work for men's issues. No-one will ever trust a man throwing 'men's rights' or whatever in their face is anything but an asshole trying to claw back progress already made by other groups. A men's ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:58 PM
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yeah mate, its the Daily Mail. Why TF would I read it carefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:27 PM
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And just taking each new argument as a self contained issue no matter demonstrably one can see it is in bad faith just grants undeserved validity to bad faith attempts like OP. This is like hearing someone say "I'm not a white nationalist I just think the nation should be 80% white" and taking them at their word. No, they are a white nationalist. Call them out and stop giving them infinite chances to convince an audience of their lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:17 PM
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Mate I have absolutely no idea who you are crusading against right now. Unless you have some stat otherwise, population decline affects the poor far less than the wealthy. Its the wealthy and educated having fewer children. The only way that would change is if there is an event or policy put in place specifically to target the poor. You seem to be arguing that I'm ignoring that will happen as though its certain. Its not enough to say it affects the poor more, because there are more poor people p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:04 PM
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lol. If I thought that was the case I would try. That's actually why I asked if English is his native language, because if not then some of the more questionable word choices would be understandable. But no, I'm not just going to assume the best case, particularly given his responses in his last post on this exact same topic. Even if it is a misconception, the misconception is that he know better how women should judge men's potential as a romantic partner. That's already a very damning sexist m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:55 PM
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yeah.....alright. Bad example, poorly used. population decline due to social norms is not comparable to that kind of event. That was the point I was making. It is not a mass casualty event. It naturally ebbs and flows, and exists within a range of norms. Even at the edges of that range, the risk is to political establishments. And when the population actually does significantly decline? The circumstances that lead to that social norm causing it will change. You framed it as their being a need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:50 PM
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The framing that women are too stupid or selfish to consider a man's 'potential' so they need to be told how to do it correctly. Women already know how to do that. They already do it. This dude is just unhappy they aren't doing it 'right' and thinks he needs to explained it to them. Also, as already mentioned in my comment, given his post history I do not think he has even considered a similar method for men to judge women's potential. He clearly assumes men deserve the benefit of the doubt, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:40 PM
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Using polite language doesn't make your post any less offensive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:32 PM
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Eh. I disagree. The fact is no amount of population decline originating from social norms poses a threat to the species. Not with how many people exist. Just using lazy wiki stats, the black death killed off 50% of the population in Europe, leaving somewhere around 50 million people and guess what? Europeans survived. The only things in danger from population decline are political establishments. Guess what? Nations rise and fall, the species survives. I'm not saying it would be good, but the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:30 PM
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Well its obviously the only rational and logical way to view things. Anyone failing to met the most strict 'logical' reasoning is just too stupid to understand. Also, what is symbolic logic or ethics? Those have nothing to do with what I call logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:07 PM
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Jesus Mate. Honest question, is English not your first language? If it is not then I'll allow some of that to slide. The crux of the issue seems to be you think women are failing to recognize men with potential. This just isn't true from any of my experience, but more importantly, even if it is sometimes true that doesn't mean its something that needs to be fixed. Women do not need to give up what they want now for what might be possible in the future, so already your entire argument is nonsense…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:55 PM
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I like to think he means King of Queens or Married with children. Both men in those shows obvious 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:35 PM
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You really don't seem to deserve a real answer, but I'm going to provide on anyways. The circumstances of most instances of rape make them a "he said/she said" situation that do not meet the strict requirements for evidence in court. That doesn't mean that there was no crime committed, only that the crimes most often committed fail to have evidence usable in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:24 PM
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And this relates to you how?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:49 PM
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I have no doubt the women you date "catch the ick". Again, clearly a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:44 PM
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maybe oversharing there mate. Also clearly a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:41 PM
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If I thought your bs was worth engaging with seriously I would have done. The fact that you took a punch and stayed on point made me decide to give you an olive branch. Most guys on here can't even take the slightest pressure without flipping out about how unfair the world is and 'woe is me' bullshit. You didn't, so lets laugh at the moron linked. No worries though, that other post is still hilarious, and yours is still unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:38 PM
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lol. All or nothing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:34 PM
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Alright I'll bite. Explain to me why you think this. It is so completely detached from reality I have to know how you got here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:32 PM
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I love these posts, they are so detached from reality. A man 1) Doing more chores is obviously equitable to a woman 1) Somehow guaranteeing they never cheat (the fair point) in a way the man will accept (the unreasonable part 9/10 times) 2) Never considering divorce for any reason 3) Never refusing sex Great stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:27 PM
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Admittedly the better initial response to your diatribe would have been But that gif was used so effectively on a post earlier it almost seems disrespectful to use it for your bs. It already reached its pinnacle before you ever arrived. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18j0xwv/women_are_the_ones_slowly_destroying_the_dating/ if you are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:14 PM
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I get why you would think that. I'll just say that 'population decline" is so consistently a talking point of great replacement theory that given the other topics this person has made I do not give them the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:56 PM
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I'll just burst the bubble. Successful people, particularly attorneys, have basic literacy in tone and tonal consistency. Nobody actually successful would shift so wildly in tone as you do, both in OP and in your comments. You are clearly someone trying to sound smart. However, you also believe in TRP adjacent ideology, and you fail to understand how absurd and abrupt the shifts in tone are between when you try to sound smart, and when you use the lingo of your ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:51 PM
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Be honest, how close was I to your facebook post from HS?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:42 PM
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Mate that article is about how that woman killed herself because of the humiliation of being caught. Also, its from the Daily Mail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:41 PM
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Really does put in perspective how obviously racist OP was with that nonsense. Japan has had an aging population for a generation. But oh no now maybe its happening to white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:37 PM
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For my own sanity I have to believe you understand what I am telling you. This is not the hill to die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:33 PM
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No, they are not debating it fine. There is literally not a single comment on OP that is actually debating what you said. All the debates are taking place about your explanation of OP. You have had to explain or amend the original post in every instance to get someone to engage with it. I'm not even being mean anymore. Look through the comments. There is literally not a single comment to OP about OP that you consider to have understood it correctly. Every single comment on OP about it you have g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:23 PM
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I honestly can't tell if you meant this post for your main or alt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:08 PM
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what even qualifies as good faith to that rant? It is devoid of meaning. Maybe it made sense to you, but you have to know by now that it is complete nonsense to literally everyone else. Nobody responding has had any idea what you are trying to say, or how your explanations relate to your OP. I was just trying to give you an easy out. That is the most good faith gesture I could conceive of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:06 PM
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seriously mate if you made this with chat gpt that would make so much more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:03 PM
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bro, lets just be real here for a minute. How many shrooms did you eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:58 PM
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What the actual fuck are you on about? What are those numbers? Why are they 'levels'? What is the unit being measured? What is your source? Am I the crazy one? What even is this world anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:56 PM
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wow. I had no idea what he meant. It was such a weird thing to say. I guess thanks for clearing this up for me, though honestly I would have preferred to never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:48 PM
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Its a good thing women are not sapient people with their own free will. Then we can blame it all on other men. Lets play this out for a minute. Why the hell would anyone participate in this? Successful men aren't going to agree to be the villains, well they probably will but not sincerely. Men that are married and in LTR aren't going to risk that by trying to shame other men when its none of their business anymore. All you've done is try to focus angry pathetic men away from hating women as expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:13 AM
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I've tried pointing this out many many times. It never works. I've even asked people to explain to me why the think perfect logical answers exist, and that dating can be 'maximized' in some way. All I got was a bunch of links of videos about how to max dating and replies that women are naturally so and so and all the normal stuff. Maybe you can get through better with this. Honestly, if you find a way to explain this that someone expecting a 'logical' or 'common sense' answer will accept, or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:56 AM
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lol. This is so different from what I expected. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:44 AM
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You know, I felt kinda bad about my reply for a minute there. It was obviously too aggressive for some rando joining the conversation. But that comment was so weird I no longer feel bad. I'm now just confused. Please explain the line of reasoning that lead you to that comment. I have to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:00 AM
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Thanks Joker. What will your next dastardly plan be? Will Gotham survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:48 AM
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That's the joke mate. What you consider productive is so transparently unethical its not even worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:41 AM
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damn all those entitled women. Surely you aren't entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:02 PM
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How nice of you to specify women. That definitely doesn't suggest intent you have failed to explicitly state.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:40 PM
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Strip them of agency. The classic answer to "how do I get that bitch to sleep with me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:38 PM
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​ <image> Anything not explicitly stated does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:31 PM
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I got a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:19 PM
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and your money. Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:05 PM
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What are you on to use 'SSRI' in that comment? Was that an attempt to prove you're smart because I implied you're an idiot in another thread? Do you know how to human? ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:02 PM
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We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:47 PM
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See, once again you miss the point. Its funny he said all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:43 PM
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Lets just take a minute to appreciate some of OPs hot takes: "most people arent equipped to handle the raw truth" Edgy. must be one of A Few Good Men. "lying is necessary to live in society" So edgy "All men need to struggle to achieve" Like a knife! "Morality is a privilege of those in abundance" Such insight. Truly, the world does not appreciate his greatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:25 PM
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Morality is a privilege of those in abundance. You are really harping on that eh? Maybe try waiting until the second lesson of Philosophy 101 before posting. Or you know, wait until Ethics 101 next semester.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:18 PM
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Step one: compare dating to literal starvation Step two: Justify lying on dates as equivalent to not starving. See? Don't make things better, be the worst actor. Anyone arguing against racing to the bottom is just too privileged to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:15 PM
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Why would that not be stringing along? Do only explicitly stated intents count?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:39 AM
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Hello to the obligatory objectivist. Hows it going bud? Angry at the world for failing to realize your genius and inherent superiority?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:11 AM
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Andrew Tate is that you mate? How'd those tweets to Greta Thunberg work out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:31 AM
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I made the argument. Supremacist ideologies are hateful. You went and tried to defend actions and beliefs you yourself called racist. You completely failed to demonstrate even a basic understanding of science and biology. See, its pretty clear you want to argue this to some point that can conceivably end with "agree to disagree." Its an attempt to cast your beliefs, which are transparently sexist and racist, as reasonable. They are not. They are sexist and racist. Even if someone did decide to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:21 AM
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Why are you asking this based on a fictional book set in 1860? Charisma and flattery is the answer. Diplomacy is the art of charisma and flattery. At least the kind you seem to be imagining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:14 AM
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You clearly don't understand the time scale involved in evolution or adaptive mutation. Never mind my previous advice, if you think that nonsense you said was science I cannot and more importantly do not care to help you. Also, you don't have to be specifically racist to have racist beliefs, and you don't need to specifically hate a group to have a hateful belief. That was the point of my post, which you obviously didn't understand. The fact that you are treading so blatantly into justifications…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:01 AM
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Ohh, so you were trying to troll, and failed. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:48 AM
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Seems I gave you too much credit. Trolls be trollin'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:38 AM
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All I can offer is the mental exercise of applying such a belief to race. Do you think no black person will ever be the best chess player? That's racist. Its hateful. This is what I mean by the dubious nature of statements about what "naturally is" when it comes to abilities or social norms. There are so many influences to such things that it is just absurd to assume some natural baseline that must be true, and determines the limit of what is possible. If your interested in exactly why those kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:36 AM
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A fair question. Specifically related to my comment I'm alluding to TRP men that are unsuccessful in dating and grow resentful. Basically all the guys here talking about hypergamy, and how women lack empathy and always cheat or whatever else, because they are by and large ways to blame women for that man's own failures and dating or even social interactions in general. More broadly though I would say most TRP men are hateful, not because they necessarily hate women, but because they support ideo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:10 AM
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I mean they already are removed from the equation. They change or rot alone forever. I think we are both talking about unsuccessful RP guys. The successful ones will continue to be successful, so the whole android thing doesn't affect them at all anyways. Its just the resentful unsuccessful ones it would affect, and honestly fuck 'em. Happiness is not something they or anyone is entitled to, and I see no reason to help them. But I guess its not like I would try and stop androids from existing ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:51 AM
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There is a clear performative component to this. Its not just a true statement of what those men want (18-24 females). Its also a way to judge other men as failing by not getting the 'ideal' and a way to judge women for not fitting within the ideal. There is just too much subtext to statements like that to really take them at face value. And even then, its probably not strictly true as what that man believes. Its a handy tool to bludgeon others with and annoy society with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:42 AM
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Sure mate, its a fun hypothetical to assume those trivial things are what women most value in a relationship, because they are shallow and selfish and don't care about other people. Its amazing how many guys here fail to understand the assumptions being made before the text they write.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:34 AM
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As for the whole "No one actually wants all of the RPers to either settle for the average woman or rot forever" you are completely missing the point for most people. I don't care if they rot alone forever or not, what I am not going to do is indulge hateful assholes. I'm not just going to give them something so that they'll be hateful assholes somewhere else, I'm going to tell them to stop being hateful assholes first. Most people I think would agree. Let them rot alone forever if they are unwil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:32 AM
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Its such a transparent fixation. Everyday is some bs about paternity tests. They already exist. Use one. The only reason to try and make them mandatory is to create a foundation for further laws to build upon. Usually, laws that will negatively impact children. Usually, as already made apparent by the comments here, as a foundation to deny financial support to children. So, here is my proposal. Universal paternity tests and universal childcare. That way, you know the truth and children are prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:25 AM
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Oh, its so much better than that. See, Tate is so stupid he found out GRETA was after him, so he tried to antagonize Greta Thunberg, was utterly humiliated, and then while trying to further antagonize her posted evidence of his location so that Romanian police knew he was in country and arrested him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 09:01 PM
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Why are so many women Christian? Why would so many women follow Jesus Christ if they are not similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:44 PM
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This is some clear observer bias. I'm going to take a totally wild guess you are a man. You identify men across the world as being similar to you because you can identify and empathize with their behavior and situation. You do not identify or empathize with women, so the differences appear more pronounced. Essentially you are only seeing the result, not identifying with the motivations that cause that result. That isn't some accusation that you fail to empathize with women or whatever. Just poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:42 PM
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I'm glad someone jumped in, because I wouldn't be able to competently make them, as I don't believe them personally. Sensitive_Truck_3015 hit bullseye though because I don't assume every religious person is inherently controlling or ill-intentioned, or every argument to be another way to control the populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:26 PM
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sounds great. Love all those things that make me lash out with vitriol when I digest them. Do you work in PR?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:30 AM
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boy are you in for a ride with the comments already being typed. That said, humiliating people for failure isn't always the best approach. And the fact that your entire rant about who needs to be humiliated seems to be about women isn't a great look. Congratulations though on pissing off every side by just being a dick. Its rare to see it so clearly made manifest. Kinda respect the confidence of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:19 AM
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There are actual moral and ethical arguments to be made against hookup culture. That said, the guys here are shit at making them. Its always got to tie into whatever insane misandry angle they are on about. But I've made this point before to guys complaining about dating. Nobody gets online with that much vitriol about a subject unless they are failing at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:07 AM
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and they used to have at least friend. Tom was the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:05 AM
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Your question is not simple or direct. Again, you need to sort out your thoughts. Also, I answered directly. Just because my answer wasn't one of the two you wanted doesn't mean I failed it answer. I'll restate my answer more succinctly for you. The question is not taboo to ask for either gender, however men so often give insulting misogynistic answers to the question "what does/should a woman bring to the relationship" that it is not worth asking. Guys who don't give shit answers? Nobody cares …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:01 AM
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No offense here mate, you need to take a minute to sort out your thoughts. I have no idea how this is supposed to relate to my comment. At no point here do you ask anything near "what do I get out of this" You are answering the opposite "what do I bring" I do not see any appreciable difference between "I have a job" and "I will do x to improve the relationship" beyond the having a job one requiring you to extrapolate possibilities rather than giving a specific list. I can only assume you have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:36 AM
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Its not taboo at all. To ask I mean. What is generally seen as taboo are certain answers. If your answers are ones that are insulting and misogynistic, as implied by your whole "for wxmen to answer with a response that actually makes sense" then yeah, people are not going to want to talk about it with you. The problem is that the answers are so consistently awful its not worth raising the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:23 AM
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As I'm sure you've noticed, a lot of RP thought centers on the idea that they are describing the natural and unchangeable state of dating. There is no better alternative. Or, if it does change, it only gets worse for men because boo hoo look at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:16 AM
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Are you a false flag account to try and prove how stupid TRP guys are? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:21 PM
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Thank you for being the example of what TRP is now. Women are selfish manipulators and men need a strategy to defend themselves from women taking advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:13 PM
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addressed in the video I linked. I don't care if you don't want to watch it. Also, the fact that he mentions Tate would mean he is talking about other male mentors besides Tate and the manosphere as those that are lacking. Maybe give OP another read there mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:45 PM
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This is some clear cherry-picking. Compare the instances of women refusing to allow men to mentor for 'feminist' reasons to the number of men that choose themselves not to mentor for the reasons I gave, and the absurdity of your claim is transparent. Women didn't do this to men, we did it to ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:39 PM
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I am both curious and terrified for you to expand on the whole " especially if you are a man dating a woman" This mostly just sounds like a basic "deviant behavior is unacceptable so you need to confess." The focus on men's deviant behavior gives it a real religious touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:15 PM
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Haven't had many problems myself. I'll reiterate in case it seems otherwise. Its great flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:07 PM
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This is, in my opinion, the single most destructive trait of toxic masculinity. The idea of "I'm on my own and so is he, he'll figure it out or fail. That's what I did." I would say the reason there are few mentors is because there are very clear lines of who can be a mentor, and when you are overstepping bounds. That teacher? Even if he wanted to help he probably knew you have a step-dad. Not his sandbox. The few people outside of family that are 'allowed' to mentor young men have to do so an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:23 PM
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Honestly mate, I think you need to claim yourself something else. The world keeps turning. I sometimes wonder about people that are against affirmative action, or whatever so they show up at Charlottesville only to be standing next to someone yelling "kill Jews" waiving a nazi flag. Sure, those fascists don't represent the right, but maybe don't stand so close to them and expect people to believe you are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:07 PM
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I've used this example before. TRP reminds me a lot of a monologue from Craig Furguson about his alcoholism. Long story short, he talks about a time when he planned to kill himself, but instead chose to go out drinking when invited. Alcoholism saved his life. The point here being that just because something gives a or even some positive results doesn't make it positive. Alcoholism has saved lives, and TRP does give some men more success. Doesn't make it good though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:54 PM
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That first part was an example of something that everyone assumes they would make the right decisions about. Nobody says they would support slavery, or the nazis, regardless of circumstance. The point is, just assuming you'll make the good or right choice when the time comes doesn't really add anything, or even say anything about you and what you believe beyond what you like to think of yourself. It was a non sequitur, that's true, but I assumed it was an easily identifiable example to my point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:42 PM
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yes, humble brag complete. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:37 PM
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hated it. Always felt like they were just about to introduce me to their cult pamphlet. I realize that's a me issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:36 PM
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Being from the US, when I lived near Leeds this was weird shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:24 PM
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Maybe you just aren't American, and if so then yeah, you're pretty much stating the obvious for a lot of places. If you are then, then nobody wants to hear your attempt at a humble brag about how you get approached by beautiful women. Or your 'feminist' observation that unattractive women want attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:22 PM
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Oh damn, one of you. The weirdos who use make-up and photoshop jobs as the standard of beauty, and then claim women are lying by wearing make-up to meet the obviously unreal 'standard.' Women should just be as attractive as you want them to be right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:15 PM
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I see the flair, but that really is not what TRP is now. This feels like when republicans try touting how Lincoln freed the slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:08 PM
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And of course you would have been one of the good whites supporting the underground railroad. The fact that everything is framed as ifs isn't great as far as taking you seriously, fyi. I'm not even disagreeing or anything with what you say, just that maybe you have less to offer here than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:59 PM
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most things feminists say have nothing to do with prostitution. see, that implication I mentioned, you accidentally said the quiet part out loud. That because feminists are wrong about one thing they they should be ignored about everything. Because they are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:50 PM
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can you prove its wrong? Its a generalization of behavior of a small group of men. If that's to broad for you to accept, then fine. Demanding proof is just dumb though, it will never convince anyone they are wrong. Especially in regards to social norms, where there is no deterministic proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:04 PM
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...that's very unsatisfying. You were supposed to at least claim you didn't lie about your intent. Still, Guess I have some respect for someone the refuses to explain themselves. Fair play.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:27 PM
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yeah.....all of that screams "wanting to look smart." Consider this some well intentioned bullying. You sound like an ass when you say things like that. It won't make sense now, but maybe you'll remember later. As consolation, A video you may enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas I'm sure we each place the other in the joyless group 'defending' language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:15 PM
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bro, you were not invited. You don't need to explain what other people mean that can explain themselves. Jesus mate, have some self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:00 PM
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I'm prepared to give this guy more credit than your insanity. he can speak for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:49 PM
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pretty sure you meant this for another comment. I hope. Otherwise you really need to slow down that conversation you are having in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:39 PM
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maybe because its right? Look, I'll just spell it out. The way you worded OP and the title makes the assumption that people that seek more attention need more attention. You didn't title it "Who do you think seeks more attention, males or women? And why?" So when you say you are only concerned with seeking and not "expects it, etc." That's just a fucking lie, your titled the post as who needs it. Arguing the assumption made in your premise is valid, and I did so specifically because you worded t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:37 PM
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What makes it weird is that men, especially men here so consistently say it as something worth pointing out. It becomes suspect when you say 'women' all the time rather than 'people' That is ignoring that you obviously believe some pseudoscience bullshit about how women are programmed biologically. Even ignoring that, just the fact that so many men are intent on specifying women in particular as wanting money makes it suspect as all hell. Any reasonable person would assume there are implications…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:30 PM
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Well now I am interested. Whats your scene that describing making money as resource proliferation is just normal? Also, just lay out for me all the implications of 'resource proliferation' vs 'making money.' Maybe their aren't any, but its got a real "and all the other things" vibe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:22 PM
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That seems unnecessarily specific. Suspiciously so. As in you have some ulterior motive you are trying to mask with your 'just asking questions' post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:13 PM
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I didn't question your point. I'm not arguing against you specifically to make clear my only goal is to let you know how terrible your wording was. The only reason I can think of for that wording is because you wanted to sound smart. It didn't work, it was just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:10 PM
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I'll just toss a grenade here to rile up the RP nuts. Men, by far, expect more attention. See, you frame it as 'seek' attention, and in that regard its pretty clear women are seeking attention more. Because they don't assume to already have it. Men assume to have peoples attention. And become whiny little bitches when they realize they don't. That's why women that are nice are just leading men on and being teases or whatever; those men assumed to have the woman's attention when really they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:02 PM
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resource proliferation? Mate, maybe you shouldn't be trying to sound smart with big words. I'm not even trying to be mean, but that was terrible. Stick to the basics for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:56 PM
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Its just so weird. I'll just get to the point, your initial premise has women doing the nurturing, but at no point later does anybody do that. Its like your imagining a society that will immediately disappear once the generation dies and saying people are being successful. One of the points made in Children of Men is that no success matters at all without someone there to remember it tomorrow. Do those miners being successful away from home have families? Because if so they are not achieving suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:50 PM
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A porous uncertain thing. What shall we call it? The Wall. that's not 'all' the wall is, its just what people start saying to defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:44 PM
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What is this real life socializing that we no longer have access to? It seems like it is all still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:18 PM
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Honestly? I don't think there is anything that can be attributed as being the other genders fault. Its just you and the person you are with on a date with. People always attribute good dates to that person they are with. Do the same thing with bad dates rather than saying "bitches be crazy" or "all men are pigs" or whatever. Actually I don't even care if people say that, everyone needs to vent sometimes. But actually really believing it as a true description of world? Probably why you have so ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:16 PM
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Great stuff, and I fully support this course of action for you and anyone agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:07 PM
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Maybe my favorite reddit journey in a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:02 PM
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I resent that you have put me in a position that to defend RP youtubers in some way. My defense is this: they are not some powerful group of influences. They absolutely do not matter, especially in comparison to all the other things that tell women aging makes them hideous monsters that will never get another role on screen except as a literal witch. RIP Carla Gugino.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:10 AM
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​ <image> maybe dick pics don't get women horny? Or apparently any of the other things you think should. This is a you problem mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:31 AM
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Jesus mate. I'm just going to stop you here. 1) Not all women or even most women think the same about cheating in a significantly different way from most men, why did you even make that your base assumption? 2) Any line of logic that will can also result in "well she can't clean her cunt completely so every partner leaves a stain" just isn't a line of logic you want to be associated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:27 AM
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No, it doesn't. Not for most men, just the ones here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:12 AM
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Obviously the ones doing it should get to decide. Nothing "phsyco" about them. *edit* Also, I never said there wasn't. I said the difference is consciously looking away more than once. You disagree. You are wrong, as evidenced even on this sub from the likes my comment got. Deal with it son.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:08 AM
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While I would agree that rape often gets thrown around as the dating convo equivalent of all political arguments ending with "well the nazis..." I just don't see how it is such a big issue. People don't take the nazi argument seriously unless there is an actual reason to bring it up. So why are you taking the rape argument so seriously as something that is pervasive and destructive and needs to be addressed? Also, the fact that so many of your responses to comments amount to "well the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:20 AM
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lets say yes. You prevent it with universal child care. That way everyone is guaranteed that their children will have the necessary support, and nobody has to decide to have an abortion because of poverty. Would it not be better to prevent people from feeling like they need to have an abortion because they cannot afford to raise a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 03:16 AM
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You have your lane, and I have mine. I'm happy to reason with reasonable people. Insane fuckwads however will not be reasoned with. Are you buddies with bottleneck? I'm getting some real appeaser vibes from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:59 AM
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They already know that. The default legal position is that parents have a legal requirement to provide support for their children. That is a 100% certain legal status already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:41 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:31 AM
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Fair enough. I figured people would be smart enough to realize I meant the guys here arguing for the right to creep on women, but apparently that was too fucking subtle for you to figure out. Maybe that's on me. Being a guy, I obviously didn't intend to include myself, but that failed to be conveyed effectively. Always gotta account for the lowest common denominator right? I specifically was not including men on here arguing against the insane bullshit of OP. The men lacking a sense of nuance ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:21 AM
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Well sure, when you just straight up lie and put random shit in quotations then it will probably seem like you're right. Except I never said 'all men', anywhere on this thread. Are you new to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:05 AM
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I've seen you are not a native English speaker so I'll be quick here. You don't need to be able to definitively prove something in social interactions. That has never been and will never be the standard. Conclusions can be extrapolated from information that can be proven. A paternity test does prove a specific thing, and conclusions can be extrapolated from that information. If after taking a paternity test and proving the child is yours all you can think about is "well that doesn't prove that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:01 AM
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The point at which we consider the effect on children is once men are presupposed to not be financially responsible for children unless they specifically consent. And yes, the rights of children do supersede the rights of parents. It is not necessary that they also supersede the rights of other children. Another bullshit bad faith argument. I just realized something. Are you suddenly angling into "I'm such a great christian look at me" bullshit because I keep saying bad faith? Just to be clear, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:55 AM
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The absolute insanity of calling dudes on PPD a "demographic"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:42 AM
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Hey look! Its trying to human! ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:40 AM
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I would prefer to not have to deal with such blatantly bad faith arguments. I bring up the effects on children, you ask some bullshit about "at conception." A n argument made in good faith would have at least attempted to address the topic of my criticism. Mind you, I'm not saying my comment requires or even deserves a good faith response, but as I said they way you decided to respond was some next level sociopath crap. Like you really can't even conceive of a discussion or topic that does not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:33 AM
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You say it as an idiot that is obviously trying to avoid the topic of the effect on children of this stupid idea. Do you honestly imagine that was clever? Being so hyper specific in how you crafted that nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:16 AM
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Jesus mate. Even when attempting to address the impact on children you still only talk about the parents. This is some straight up sociopath shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:36 AM
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Why are there always these insane posts about paternity that literally fail to mention the impact on children at all? I mean really I know why, it just amazes me that so many guys here are comfortable saying this shit out loud (so to speak). Really, this sniveling fuckwad is terrified of his own shadow and would never say this out loud. I've been reading the slow horses books (and watching the show), and I'm 99% sure every RP account here is an alt for Roddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:34 PM
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Wow. Bad actors can completely ruin something for someone else without suffering legal consequence? Who could have ever fucking imagined that. not those dumb women complaining about men glancing at them. That's totally reasonable and fine to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:00 PM
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It was a reference to this captainhowdy82 · 3 hr. ago Repeatedly “glancing” at someone is creepy no matter what you call it PrecisionHatOp · 2 hr. agoPurple Pill Man It's only creepy if you are entitled and fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 10:56 PM
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Stop fucking trying to compare your actions to women's. Its so clearly a "well what about..." mentality. Worry about your own life. And yes, I know many women on this sub do the same thing, and its just as annoying. The difference is that their central point is much more likely to be correct or close to it. You're here trying to defend dudes rights to be creepy. All this bullshit about the definition of stare and nobodies feelings matter and blah blah blah so what? You can look at women whenever…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:32 PM
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I don't think it needs to be encouraged. I mean realistically teenagers are going to do what they decide to, whether that be what they want or what they think they should. That said, telling a kid to go to parties is a far stretch from telling them to do drugs. I just think we need to encourage kids to do things where possibilities exist. Seems like a lot of parents aren't comfortable with kids doing anything they can't control or monitor, and that is just so completely different from when I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:10 PM
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But women posting legal videos social media is something worth bitching about? Maybe just don't watch them, how fucking hard is that to figure out. I can't even count the number of posts I've seen on PPD about this subject. glance vs stare, creepy vs confident, women existing on the internet. These are the most circle jerk topics possible on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:49 PM
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Lets just be real here a moment. The world does not bend to dictionary definitions and distinctions, and neither does normal social interaction. I gave you the information that can help you not be a creepy fuck. Now its on you to use it. Want to ignore it? Fine, no skin off my back. Women will continue to judge you and you will continue to complain ineffectually online. You didn't make this post because of some videos you maybe saw; you posted because you don't like when women tell you or make y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:26 PM
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I bet most people in a relationship would be completely fine with it, both genders. The problem is all the normal assumptions that can be made about a guy with no professional ambition on a date. The fact that men have been expected to work and provide for so long means rejecting that norm becomes abnormal. That makes it something to analyze. Typically that kind of analysis won't end with good conclusions. Not fair, but it is the result of norms we had up till now. I think the only way to addres…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:44 PM
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"If the dude looks away every few seconds, it means, at most, he's checking you out" Staring also includes primarily looking at something. He is primarily looking at the woman, and looking away to, assumedly, "not stare". I realize nuance isn't something guys here seem to understand. So, here is a helpful tip. If you have to consciously look away from a woman more than once, you are probably staring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:13 PM
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Dammit. not knowing what fence-sitter means just takes all wind out of the sails of my comment. Its pretty self explanatory. Not on this side, or that side. Sitting on the fence between. Its generally used to describe a behavior of appeasing. The sort of "lets all just get along and find common ground" stance, even when faced with a position or event clearly wrong. Obviously you could have just looked it up, but I respect the power play there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:27 PM
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What useless drivel. Nobody likes a fence-sitter. For the sake of getting this over with, lets just ignore a. In b I made a statement about the majority of situations. I didn't cherry pick. You are right, friendship and a relationship go hand in hand, which is what makes it so fucking weird that so many guys are comfortable walking away from a friendship as soon at it doesn't lead to more. Honestly I don't even care that some guys do this. Good riddance. What makes posts like this so absurd is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:07 PM
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You stole this from a Dane Cook movie called My best Friend's Girl and it was a shit movie. Still, I lol'd
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:25 PM
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This is almost always a case of guys sabotaging themselves. Lets start with the obvious: most women are not soulless vampires trying to steal your money and time. You are not that rich or interesting. Women are not stupid. Most of the time if a dude is into them and trying to start up something they know, or at least suspect. So the only ways they are going to ignore that is if a) They don't know you very well and haven't had a chance to make a good judgement then you do some crazy nice guy shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:57 PM
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I get what his actual point is, which you describe. The thing that makes his comment so weird is that he followed that logic that women just make bad decisions and that's why they have less money to saying that giving women more money from SS is insulting to women because it treats them like they are mentally challenged. Its an extreme change in direction. More generally amiskon always seems to provide the most unhinged opinions on this sub, so asking him to elaborate makes for an entertaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:15 PM
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You showed your colors mate, don't be mad at me for having eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:00 PM
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Alright. Well my new question is why are you posting that here? Just lay it out for me, what do you want people to take away from your post? This sub is almost exclusively discussions about gender/sex, so I assume the average reader will read your post in that framing, not in the framing you present in the above comment about SS being unfair to married people. This is sub is primarily for and about single people, so the inclusion of married people being the disadvantaged group seems odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:27 PM
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And their second favorite line of reasoning: State some assumed detail about social dynamics of hunter gatherers from before civilization and writing, then say how it necessarily affects modern dating. Its easy to co-opt the dead. They can't defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:15 PM
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I'm going to be polite and ignore that tin-foil hat tirade. I've seen you post before and it always seems reasonable and effectively includes actual data, which is fucking rare here. I've actually avoided commenting on some because there was nothing to say that didn't make wide assumptions about your intent. I guess my question then is do you think that incentivizing being single is a bad thing? The tone suggests you do, but maybe I'm reading into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:03 PM
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What? I have no idea what you are saying mate. Its even more unclear because the study OP references (and his post) mention measures of financial literacy. Is that what you are talking about? Because I didn't mention that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:46 PM
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right.... I mean that demonstrates that women in that category have 40k less then men at retirement over the course of their lifetime, while maintaining similar income from that point on. Given your inclusion of "This is exceptionally relevant to my long-standing point that introduction of social security (and its subsequent reforms)..." you seem to be using this data to argue that SS is unfairly biased against men. My argument is that it is not unfair. Also, 43k is a rounding error? A 15% round…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:42 PM
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I chose it for that reason, since table 3 shows the insane disparity between mean and median income. But fair enough. In every table, in every category before SS+pension men's income is higher than women's, so my point as to why SS provides more to women remains. The safety net is designed to lessen that disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:07 PM
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"Maybe some of these are controversial but if they are then it's a symptom of a sick society. Feel free to engage and offer your thoughts, but don't be mean please " Really? Thinking any of that is controversial is sick but don't be mean? Grow the fuck up. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. For the first two points: this is just a cultural thing. Things be different. There is a lot that can be said about the legacy of third-wave feminism and the general failure of traditional masculinity to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:46 PM
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Table 6—OLS Models of Total Wealth (Financial and Housing) That table shows a consistent trend of single men having nearly twice the full wealth as single women in all but the 2+ past events category. So yeah, when men are measured to have twice the wealth of women, it makes sense for a social safety net to provide twice as much to compensate for the disparity. That is, as you mention in your post, what it is designed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:31 PM
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This is why I hate when guys try and use psychology or science on here. It always turns into some pseudoscience bullshit to justify their beliefs. Kudos on being aware enough to take the most passive aggressive approach to put forward your beliefs. The 'I'm just asking questions here'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:54 AM
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lol. It really is the best identifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:39 AM
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It will absolutely take a long time to improve yourself when the starting point is that women are selfish materialists incapable of love that only want to take advantage of you and anything you do for them that doesn't result in sex is simping and a failure of masculinity. That is where many many guys on here are at. This is why when possible I try to point out where the logic that brought them to that conclusion is wrong. As long as they keep thinking the same way that brought them to those con…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:26 AM
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You a clearly posting in regards to the idea of a 'nice guy' so I almost feel like I'm playing devil's advocate here. Still, I've said enough shit on this sub I would be a hypocrite if I don't point out the obvious. If you define niceness to only apply to self-serving amoral behavior, then obviously it meets those conditions. That doesn't make your definition of nice true. Honestly its not even relevant to 'nice guys' because their inherent problem is not that they are actually nice and believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:21 AM
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Honest question: how long did you spend concocting this bullshit? Its obviously not based on reality, and is at best cherry-picking without regard to context or the conclusions actually derived from any 'studies' you used as the basis. I am genuinely interested to know how long you and guys like you spend making these posts. You clearly put in some effort to make it appear researched.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:12 AM
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women always had the guarantee they are the parent of the baby. If you observe carefully, technology is also an equalizer. War weapons have also equalized strength of men, so basically open-field combat is obsolete now. I got whiplash fro that transition. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:03 AM
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I suppose given the argument most guys he talks to are not joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:00 AM
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then I guess you have some very loyal followers. Its so consistent on your posts when I comment. We'll just agree to disagree whether that's because you have the more reasonable relatable points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:35 PM
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Saying someone has a "good" or "bad" personality is a very dumb thing to say That's the discussion. I'm saying you are wrong because you are using examples from day to day life, while appealing to a logic separate from those interactions. You just admitted that it doesn't apply to day to day life, so why are you applying it to off-hand judgements made day to day? This is classic have your cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:32 PM
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Sure mate. Well reasoned, and not at all ignoring the nature of a romantic relationship. God speed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:53 PM
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Look man, all I can offer is that this kind of reactionary thinking is not going to work well for you. If a woman expects you to pay she isn't worth dating. If women expect men to pay men should be allowed to expect sex. Try something proactive rather than constantly thinking about the right or best reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:36 PM
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Mate, your flair has me laughing so much I can't breath. well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:10 PM
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I'm not going to watch the skit, but it has a good premise. All you need to do is have the 50's housewife be eating spoonfuls of sugar out of the bag to 'help' her depression, and then mention she needs to go use her medically prescribed 'massager' to treat her oncoming hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:09 PM
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See, this whole framing is weird. Who cares if she's interested? Its one date. What matters is if you are interested in her. It would take to long to try and really sort out and explain, but your comment veers real close to the obsessive mind-frame that its not about dating a woman, its about dating a specific woman you want. So anything uncertain or non-optimal is bad and needs to change, otherwise you won't get that girl you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:03 PM
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I would say the same thing for women. I got no problem with women paying for a date. Given norms until now just going 50-50 serves the same purpose for most women. Just not expecting the man to pay regardless of outcome demonstrates the same qualities. Is that absolutely 100% fair that women have a lesser standard of 50-50? Who fucking cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:56 AM
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I've said this before here, and you'll disagree. Which is fine. Thinking "logically" is not inherently better or more valid. People do not have an obligation to be logical, and it is not a moral or ethical failing to recognize patterns in the world and act based on a conclusion reached from judging those patterns. Its also not stupid, or uninformed, or whatever other description along those lines you want to use. Its how people interact in their day to day life. Human beings are not naturally wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:53 AM
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yeah. I seen the responses, and lets be real we all knew what they were going to be anyways. I'm willing to bet a lot of those rely on the religious aspect, they are explanations for why men are or should be head of a family. Or they serve as alternative reasons because of the decline of strict religious beliefs. Kind of a "well shit I can't just say its in the bible anymore, whats the new reason I get to be in charge?" Just wanted to point out not all guys with that conclusion are fuckwads. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:43 AM
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Mate, if you feel the need to analyze every possible thought of someone on the first date, I can already guess things don't go well. This is a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:37 AM
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The core of any response will likely be that people don't try to be completely accurate and specific in normal speech. Everyday life is not a scientific thesis. This has some real autistic vibes, so I'm trying to be gentle here. People make judgements about the world. It is normal and beneficial to do so. Part of that means judging other people, even without all the information necessary to make an accurate or fair judgement. Also, in most of these kinds of off-hand judgements context matters. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:05 AM
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This is one of those things that people joked about forever, and socially inept people think is serious. Men do not expect something in return for paying for a date. Its a joke you idiot. Have guys here seriously just forgotten that paying for a date is a way to make yourself look good? You have the means, and a very basic sense of generosity and selflessness. You pay because it makes the date more enjoyable for the person you are on a date with. Completely separate from anything women expect, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:54 AM
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One thing to acknowledge is that there are religious reasons to believe that the man is the head spiritually of a family. I had this conversation with a friend I really respect for his views on religion (I'm atheist) so I don't think it is necessarily selfish or ill-intentioned when some men say they are the head of the household, and that's that. There is a way to believe that while also showing respect for your partner, with the understanding that when disagreements arise the man will be the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:44 AM
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While you are expecting impossible answers, the root of that expectation is that you fail to understand that the perfect is the enemy of the good. There is no existence where you don't make anyone uncomfortable ever. You want to be told the perfect answer that avoids being creepy always, and gets the girl, and satisfies your ideas of masculinity. Also, stop down-voting me mate. I don't really care, but one more thing you are obviously unaware of is that down-voting my every comment to yours make…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:35 AM
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your emphasis on know and really know only demonstrates you are appealing to a meaning that is by definition impossible. This is useless. The world is not certain or deterministic. That's not a problem, and suggesting it is just makes you sound absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:02 PM
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definitely therapy. As for Hitler, your comments here aren't fascists, or misogynistic, or even ethically bad. They are just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:26 PM
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like assuming everyone is uncomfortable because you're ugly? Being overly sensitive like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:20 PM
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congratulations. You have discovered the most basic fact of social interactions. Context matters. Maybe she was already crushing on you. Maybe you have worked together long enough she trusts you're not a creep. Maybe she just decided that comment by itself, without you asking to come inside or whatever, was fine. Maybe she was just in a good mood for unrelated reasons. Now for the second most basic fact of social interactions. Just because you don't know the context doesn't mean there isn't any.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:16 PM
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wow mate. I am honestly surprised when I see someone state this so clearly. I think you might be saying the quiet part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:00 PM
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Making things about morality makes it easier to feel superior. That way, even if they aren't getting what they want, which they probably aren't since they are complaining, at least they get to feel superior. *edit* I'll add appeals to rationality as the second easiest way to feel superior while failing at something. Specifically because of: stats135 · 16 min. ago demeans the other person rather than a way that highlights your individual lifestyle Although this is true, it is not true in the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:57 PM
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I'm not saying its impossible to disagree with alcohol consumption for these reasons, but lets be real. These are all excuses. Unless it is for religious reasons the real reason for most people (especially guys that would be on PPD) is that they have a borderline psychotic obsession with control and refuse to allow inebriation to jeopardize that. When I was in HS I gave all kinds of reasons why I didn't drink to friends and family. My gf eventually called me out that I just wanted to be in contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:53 PM
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Sure mate. Identifying what is in need of the most immediate and focused attention will make things worse. Hot take. All I see in my head when I read your posts are clips of white people complaining about sit-ins saying "well they shouldn't be disrupting private business." No idea how to move forward, just complaining that people are doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:00 AM
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Mate, we've been through this. Stop fence sitting telling yourself how great you are for being even handed and unbiased. At some point shit has to get done, and problems need to be addressed. At that point historical context matters, not just some bullshit philosophy 101 musings. Objectivity is not the final measure of things. It is not the only acceptable consideration. Demanding the world or people/society *edit* be objective is transparently absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:43 AM
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His point is in the title. "most women don't deserve chivalry from men." Also, the way you phrased all that is extremely confusing. It took me a while to work out. I see how you came to that conclusion of what he is saying, but you are looking at it backwards. He is not advocating for men to change their standards away from patriarchal ones to meet the modern standards for women, he is advocating for women to live up to the patriarchal standards he lists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:23 AM
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See, you seem to think that personality means what you consider to be a good or interesting personality. That's the only interpretation that would allow for something like "Please address the men and women who don't even have a personality to begin with f*** left and right" My point is that OP fundamentally doesn't understand that there are unquantifiable judgements being made in social interactions, especially in dating, and clearly neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:28 AM
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Is it video games? Don't get me wrong, I play a lot of video games, but never in my life have I ever thought to conceive of my personal social interactions as needing a strategy. What is this obsession with the 'optimal strategy'? Like, do people actually think an optimal strategy will optimize happiness? That talking to people is so goddamn complicated you need a fucking itemized guide? Someone educate me please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:02 AM
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Just no. Those are bad opinions to have mate. Nobody wants a relationship with someone constantly measuring contribution. Enjoy the drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:54 AM
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that's my point. Is a woman going to display her " skill in domestic tasks" and "loyalty, and faithfulness" on a date? No, because those are actual values and skills that are all day everyday. He has a clear difference in expectation for men, which is immediate and doesn't require all day everyday investment, and women. He thinks he should get the same amount of moral and social credit for buying flowers on a date as a woman gets for being faithful, something that by its very nature requires a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:40 AM
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Would you pay for a service that listed the sexual history of every woman in America? So women can report men if they are actually women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:34 AM
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You keep saying this but the title of your post is "Would you pay for a service that listed the sexual history of every woman in America?" You literally conceived of the entire idea as being about only women. Like in your mind did you forget your own idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:33 AM
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Your comment can go either way here. Figure out what you think and I'll respond. You seem alright. I'll copy my critcism of OP here in case that helps you find your way. Literally every single one of your items for men are specific singular actions taken during a date, except maybe 8&9 that can apply more broadly. Literally every single item for women is a persistent, ongoing judgement of their character and skills. Except maybe 1, but I'm just not going to give you that much credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:28 AM
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Monetization. He is real focused on monetization. That's the difference fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:14 AM
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I'm gonna take a wild guess you've never been to a strip club. Or a hostess bar. Or any of the countless other ways people have historically spent money on temporary companionship/sexual gratification. You clearly lack any sense of scale or perspective. Its common on here really; when you imagine the world is as small as what you see its easy to imagine there are drastic unprecedented changes happening that are of dire consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:07 AM
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I find it refreshing when someone gets on here but lacks the skill or knowledge to mask what they really think and want. We need people to say the quiet part out loud sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:00 AM
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Jesus mate. Stop while you're behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:55 AM
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I'm saying what I said. What are you asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:53 AM
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Posts like this are so weird to me. Are young people now so comfortable with a lack of privacy that asking this question doesn't get an immediate response of "WTF are you even on about, why would such a thing ever be tolerated?" I had some really dumb conversation while on watch in the army, musings completely detached from reality. Never were they this detached.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:49 AM
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As most people here are saying, who cares? My question to you is what is your opinion? You are the one that thought it was worth discussing. Giving you the benefit of the doubt I have no idea what you think the discussion will be. Without the benefit of the doubt, I have very ungenerous opinions of why you would ask about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:44 AM
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I'm all for this really. And I apologize in advance for bringing up the thing, you know the thing people bring up about prostitution. I'll just add that there needs to be concurrent legislation to more effectively combat human trafficking. I'm not sure if you mean to suggest that legal protections will combat trafficking because women will have legal recourse, but if so then I just disagree. Without more accessible paths to green cards/citizenship people being trafficked will not have legal reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:35 AM
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BECAUSE WOMEN ARE SERVANTS OF SOCIETY'S TRUE MASTERS! SEE HOW THEY EMASCULATE AND HUMILIATE YOU JUST FOR BEING HUMAN! WHO ELSE COULD HATE HUMANITY SO MUCH EXCEPT THE LIZARD-MEN OF ALPHA CENTAURI! THEY ARE DENYING HUMAN MEN COMPANIONSHIP IN ORDER TO CONQUER THE WORLD!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:22 AM
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Fair. Your mistake was in thinking I ever had the intention of arguing seriously with OP. But I'll take the hit and move on. I do have a comment on OP with a real criticism and ad hominem attacks if that will interest you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:14 AM
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everything that the far-right is composed of are things I disagree with. This dude is checking boxes left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:09 AM
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There is probably something to be said for the sense of entitlement it demonstrates when guys do that. I think you're agreeing with me, but in case not know that I'm not trying to diminish the effect it has on women, just trying to focus OP to the important bit of a well intentioned "stop putting women on a pedestal;" advice from dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:04 AM
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While I get your point, there are real problems with this mentality. Nobody wants a date someone constantly throwing out ultimatums like "do the dished next time or I quit" That kind of thing can easily in and of itself be very disrespectful to your partner. Maybe these other women's relationships don't meet your idea of respectful, but that doesn't mean they have to start issuing ultimatums or shut up and stop complaining, which seems to be the tone of your last comment there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:59 AM
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You really chose the worst possible way to frame this, but in principle I agree. Actually communicating desires goes a long way to fulfilling them. The problem is always that guys get just as weird about sex as women, but in completely different ways. Case in point, " I would have been "at fault". Effective communication about sex is only possible if there is a base level of trust there. Rather than your whole "lets blame women for being unfulfilled" angle maybe take a step back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:48 AM
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What are you even arguing here? That OP is wrong because he is adding to simp culture? I assume you are trying to address my " Its advice for your benefit, not for the world" bit. The thing is, some women wanting a certain quality has literally no effect on you at all. Don't date those women. Its not making dating harder, its making it harder for you to date specific women. Move on. Your whole argument is predicated on simping, that you should be able to date that specific woman, and dammit the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:39 AM
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your point is in an infinite abyss of stupidity. But sure. The fact that someone won't even bother to seriously engage with you is proof you are right, not that you're a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:26 AM
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lol. I'm the sheltered one? You made a post with that bullshit idea of chivalry and dating, but I'm sheltered. Go watch more reruns of Leave it to Beaver.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:17 AM
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You missing the point here completely. I'm sure its annoying for women when guys do this to them, so there is that, but really people say this so you can improve your own life. Its advice for your benefit, not for the world. Don't want to listen? Fine, nobody else is responsible for your happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:14 AM
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Getting some real far-right vibes from that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:11 AM
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And I walked to school in the snow uphill both ways. Why is everyone complaining about the weather so much? Excuses and laziness, that's why. Obviously women are just saying these things to hide their real motives, because....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:05 AM
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Yet more examples of "I do the nice things, so I'm a good date" thinking. Personality is more than a list of actions, and I honestly hope you are autistic because if not then you are a fucking idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:02 AM
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thats irrelevant to my point, your little history lesson doesn't change my point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:51 AM
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I'll just cut to the chase here mate. Literally every single one of your items for men are specific singular actions taken during a date, except maybe 8&9 that can apply more broadly. Literally every single item for women is a persistent, ongoing judgement of their character and skills. Except maybe 1, but I'm just not going to give you that much credit. Be more transparently misogynistic and basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:48 AM
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Sure. Everything is a personal attack against you. Good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:33 AM
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Probably not. What do you think I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:32 AM
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You mean like this: "Here is the crux of the issue: saying men's problems aren't taken seriously when those problems are also shared by women (social ostracism , bullying ect..) just sounds absurd. It reeks of "well now that its happening to me/mine we need to fix it" thinking. None of the problems men face are specific to men. The conditions that cause those problems may be, such as people thinking you're creepy for staring, but the problems are not unique. That's why it seems to be taken less …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:31 AM
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Yes. That's clearly what I meant. Well done mate. Its not blatantly obvious you have a crippling inferiority complex and internalize every perceived slight as a personal attack. Nope, a perfectly healthy, reasonable mind made that inane comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:27 AM
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already addressed this with OP. Keep reading little guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:24 AM
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​ <image> How about I paraphrase myself you, since you fucked it up so bad. When men talk shit about women, they act on it to create systemic disadvantages for women. When women talk shit about men, they act on it to create personal disadvantages for men. The difference in scale between personal and systemic is the answer to OP question: "Bonus: Why does Reddit (and society at large) usually allow carte blanch for women to generalize men and say hаteful things about them, but if men do the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:24 AM
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already addressed that, keep reading mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:23 PM
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but you are participating. You are asserting that men's problems are taken less seriously than women's problems. That men have it worse. You are starting to venture into the kind of discussion I hate on here, so I'll just lay my cards out. Here is the crux of the issue: saying men's problems aren't taken seriously when those problems are also shared by women (social ostracism , bullying ect..) just sounds absurd. It reeks of "well now that its happening to me/mine we need to fix it" thinking. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 10:31 AM
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Right. But not murder. Again, not all consequences are equal. I understand your point though, not gonna nitpick. I guess my question is do you think the negative consequences men face are worse than those faced by women from slut-shaming, or even just from 'creepy' guys? Is the personal distress of feeling socially isolated worse than the personal distress of feeling unsafe around someone? Lets just assume those two are equal and don't have significant difference in plausible outcome: both are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:32 AM
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So, this is kind of what I was alluding to in the difference of consequences for men and women. What is the demonization here? That a woman complained, not about you, but about a guy (she doesn't care who) being creepy to strangers on the internet? Demonization seems like an overly strong description of that situation. Someone taking offense to that, assuming they ever even find out about the online 'complaint' sounds like a pretty clear example of someone internalizing anything negative as a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:05 AM
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I'm trying to think of a way to respond to this that doesn't sound dismissive, I got in a zone on another thread. If it is, then I apologize. You have correctly identified that social interactions consist of more than just your own personal experience. Thinking someone is being creepy doesn't necessarily mean they are acting abnormally, and thinking you are acting normally doesn't require anyone else to be comfortable. Just as a general rule for basic decency, If one person is comfortable with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:59 AM
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Right. See, the actually stoic thing to do is to just date whoever he is comfortable dating instead of complaining about the hardships of men dating online. Yet another tactic of the far-right. Say something inflammatory then say "why is everyone picking on me" when they get called out. He isn't actually defending himself, he's trying to distract from the criticism. I'm actually an omnipotent god and already know everything this moron is going to argue just based on his OP. Because he's a basic …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:49 AM
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No way I'm going to subscribe to that site to read the article you linked. Bad form in my opinion. So, maybe this all is covered. The difference between slut-shaming and I guess 'creep-shaming' or whatever we want to call it is that women are being demonized for the act, regardless of context, whereas men are being shamed for their behavior in context. guys can't be creeps in a healthy way that doesn't bother anyone else. Being creepy requires that they be creepy to someone as a social interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:39 AM
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a) you obviously have no idea what stoic means and just know its used to describe a masculine ideal B) <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:21 AM
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Nope. Just having fun pointing out how obvious it is everything you said is in bad faith. See, you don't actually matter anymore. It is all for the poor kid that comes on PPD without a clear agenda and thinks you're being reasonable because you don't flat out say you think men are inherently better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:19 AM
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Sure mate, that's obviously what I meant. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:41 AM
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of course. Civil. "instilling a low quality pathology in women knowing good quality men are willing to endure it to enter a relationship" Once again. Amazing. You are actually stupid enough to think because you didn't directly insult someone you are being civil. I'm guessing you are part of the far-right scene. They are always big on that bs. "I didn't say kill Jews, I said end the elites control of society and liberal agenda." Wink.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:33 AM
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Again, if you don't understand basic concepts like time and that just because someone chooses solitude right now doesn't mean its an absolute eternal decision then nobody can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:21 AM
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Amazing. Someone engages with your stupid premise and you decide to undermine her because she is a woman. The jokes write themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:19 AM
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Wow mate. Put the tin hat away, you really went off the deep end there. That is not what is implied. That's just you internalizing everything as a personal attack. The simple fact is that most women date. Most men too. Maybe not right now, when you want to date, and maybe not you specifically, but the fact that overwhelmingly most people date/enter a relationship invalidates your entire rant. Women are choosing men, like they always have. If you don't understand basic concepts like time and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:15 AM
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by all means, remain out of the market. That is a wise choice for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:51 AM
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Fair enough. The idea that women are too pragmatic or value things separate from an idealized form of relationship "for its own sake" assumes that such an idealized form is possible. It is not. There are always going to be considerations made from a purely personal and selfish perspective, because relationships are actual real things that are meant to fulfill needs/desires. Conditioning relationships on their ability to fulfill those needs/desires does not diminish the relationship in some way, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:57 AM
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And just saying things automatically are part of RP when they are just normal ideas any halfway competent person can figure out doesn't mean everyone that figures it out is RP. See, the issue here is that the premise of your assertion is that things like working out or offering something of value in a relationship are fundamentally RP, so anyone that advocates those things is aligned with RP. This is ass backwards. Those ideas existed long before RP, and RP was conceived specifically in oppositi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:43 AM
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My quippy answer is to watch Fight Club while taking everything at face value. No analysis or even basic media literacy. Tyler Durden's speech about men being part of a lost generation pissed they aren't getting what they were promised? An actual description of reality. That is the mindset of these guys. That the world promised them intimacy/success because of movies or masculinity or "how things used to be" or whatever and is failing to deliver on that promise. That denying them the fulfillment…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:13 AM
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Again, you are proving my point. That kind of concept of RP is so broad as to be completely meaningless. Its just a method of confirmation bias that centers on the idea of "well we basically mean the same thing so I am right" or "well they basically follow RP ideas." Its the ideological equivalent of every problem is a nail when you only have a hammer. Get some more fucking tools. Imagine perspectives different from your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:46 AM
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It wasn't sarcasm at all, though I see why you think that. You really did break me because it is so obvious, but just doesn't seem right when I think about it. Yes, that is my point. Not just that culturally BP is the default, but that RP is such a small minority that any concept of nurture is overwhelmed by the norm. Maybe a good comparison is immigrant families. Many families try to raise kids with traditional ideas, but a kids exposure to local culture is so overwhelming that it often drowns …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:33 AM
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lol. Fair. RP parents raising RP kids is an eminently reasonable common sense idea that I disagree with for very pedantic reasons. Fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:07 AM
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Mate, you have absolutely wreaked me with this very simple observation. My brain is melting trying to work it out. I'll try to summarize my thinking here. I don't think it would be the default. So, even in another post on this thread I call RP cult like, but really its a bad comparison for simple reason of the difference in how a personal meme like religion propagates and how a social meme propagates. Basically RP is better compared to misogyny or freedom or other social ideas rather than person…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:58 AM
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Yes yes, of course. Any concept of a relationship beyond it being "for its own sake" whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean is jaded and overly pragmatic. Rarely do I find such a clear example of no true Scotsman out in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:38 AM
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I'm confused what your point is here. It really seems like the point you are making in the argument is that no, a subset of women do not ruin it for the rest, because generalizing based on their behavior is wrong, and therefore the people in the wrong are the ones making those generalizations, not the women on OF or whatever. However, the language and the title question seem to suggest that you do think a subset of women are ruining things. There seems to be a clear contradiction in what the nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:33 AM
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An interesting question. I would say yes, they absolutely do. However, I imagine they would say no. The problem here is the cult like mentality of RP and its extremely nebulous and flexible ideas of what it represents. Basically, people that go RP start to attribute all success to RP ideology. "Look at Leo, he gets hot chicks all the time, what an RP god!" Even though I seriously doubt Leo would ever want to be associated with RP. So, once RP guys start seeing success in whatever they are after,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:21 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:10 AM
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Explain, because I have the same understanding that BP is the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:59 AM
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Yes. Literally all the time. The vast majority of men in the world are not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:55 AM
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Exactly. Necessarily so, because you already defined BP as being exclusive to people that get average to below average women. Just one of the many points I was making with how utterly useless your descriptions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:47 AM
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1 - Group A women 2 - Group B women They are not the same women. When it is the same woman saying both its probably the kind of person that won't date anyone making less than 300k because they think the average income is 150k. That kind of lack of basic understanding of the world is not exclusive to women mind you, just answering the question. Bonus: because historically when men say shit about women its been used as a reason to exclude and oppress women. Basically there are and have been real t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:43 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:27 AM
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Yes, obviously if you define things within the framework of RP so broadly that everything fits then sure. Doesn't mean that is an accurate, valid or even useful way to categorize things. Also, you sort of gave away the game when the only one of those with a negative description is BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:19 AM
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Yet another common theme here. Many guys here say logic meaning actual philosophical logic, without understanding it at all, and completely failing to realize that trying to hold social interactions to a strict logical standard is fucking ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:12 AM
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You clearly don't understand the language of activism. This is a problem I see on PPD a lot, with the other most common thing I see being guys trying to use the language of activism without understanding its purpose or origin or why it doesn't work with the their perspective. It's meant to be insulting. It is a phrase designed to cause someone to pause, and then reflect on their own ideas and behavior. Its designed to try and cause a defense response, like you just gave, so that the reflexively …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:38 PM
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Or he made a transparently bad faith argument specifically to avoid anyone treating it seriously because its not a serious argument. Being a troll doesn't make him a genius, just an asshole. This is like saying someone is a genius for predicting a car crash right before they drive drunk. Just don't drive drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:04 AM
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Not every opinion deserves to be treated seriously. Blah blah blah "guess that means I don't have to take you seriously" whatever. You understand the point, and this dude is clearly off his rocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:02 AM
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Its really really weird that all your examples of what is expected from men are things that can happen on a first date and all your examples of whats expected from a woman are not. Men: pay, drive, walk on the left, flowers Women: cook, clean, massages, bear children WTF are you even on about? Because it seems like your real problem is with traditional gender roles, except based on the tone of your post I'm guessing this is all in defense of traditional roles. With that in mind, maybe don't hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:56 AM
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Not only is the idea that feminists think men are all rapists wrong, it is not necessary to believe the second part even if someone believes the first. There is no logical necessity, its just what you want to believe. Stop trying to justify your bad opinions with pseudoscience and bad logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:20 PM
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It is not morally wrong. Also, it is incredibly stupid to say that women don't have to try in a relationship. Everyone is putting themselves out there in some way to get what they want. Get over yourself mate and stop with this grass is always greener nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:16 PM
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It is not semantics. I am saying that social conditions and influences cannot be reduced to any physical cause. Please stop trying to interpret things as me agreeing to that. The whole "well I can't change things anyways" attitude you just displayed is the exact problem I originally pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:38 AM
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sex workers are easy to victimize and feel superior about. That's what it really gets down to, being able to feel superior. It is a lot harder nowadays to feel superior than women in general, but sex workers? Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 05:31 AM
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Women need men more because... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:50 AM
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environment and genetics are not the only or even the primary influences. that's the point I'm making. Now, I'm sure someone is going to argue that culture is part of 'environment' but the limit of what can be included in environment is so broad as to make it an extremely poor description. Just lumping social influences in with physical ones as 'environment' and placing that next to genetics, an explicitly physical influence is at best lacking in nuance, and given the tone in the comment is prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:40 AM
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ah, well then good luck. I'll just add from my experience, when I went on anti-anxiety meds without any counseling they really made my depression worse. I didn't stick with them long, so I don't know if they would have eventually helped, 2 months was enough for me to end it. They made most of the ways I was already using to cope less effective, without really making the things I knew I needed to do seem any easier. Not trying to scare you or anything, just saying its still a pretty fucking hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:19 AM
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It is an overly deterministic explanation. Just saying you never get to pick how you think or make choices creates a false narrative of powerlessness that only serves as confirmation bias for people already suffering from psychological conditions. It is just another way to blame the world rather than take responsibility for one's own agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:13 AM
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If that is sarcasm, well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:09 AM
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Pretty much what that guy said, except for the genetics/environment crap. You know its not magical, and you know it will be deeply uncomfortable and probably embarrassing. If you can't deal with that and don't want to try drugs (legal or illegal) or counseling that makes that shit easier then yeah, its a lost cause. Not because of the world, because of your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:42 AM
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You do you. Depending on how old you are its plausible he will gain ambition later, but its not guaranteed. The difference in responsibilities between dating/marriage and social pressures can have a huge effect. Its not really uncommon for college educated people to prefer other college educated people. Ambition itself as something desirable is a bit tricky in my opinion, there is certainly something to be said for refusing to adhere to norms of rat race on principle, especially if he doesn't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:15 AM
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succinct. Clearly you are commenting in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:20 PM
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Wow. Your racism is showing through mate. Eurasian and European from the midwest? They are American, assuming they exist, which I doubt. Saying people should seek relationships with people that share their worldview is not some great discovery. We all already know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:44 AM
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I mean, you're right. Trying to provide the same service as already exists but more exclusive is not a great business strategy. Especially if there is a massive disparity in number of users, because those men (and likely women) will also being using tinder or whatever. I don't think it says much about women tbh, dating apps suck because people suck. Someone is trying to make money while they can, and maybe they are smart enough to leave town fast enough to keep some of that money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:59 AM
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Even the way you describe them is not equal. Just saying they are two sides of the same coin is disingenuous here. Lets talk about a few points to make this more fair, I'll even expand on RP crap to try and be a little fair. Women think men are trash. Yes, this gets said a lot. It barely means anything, especially if you compare it to a statement like "people are trash." If you disagree fine, I'm moving on. Feminism mostly is unconcerned with men except in how they relate to women. So, saying fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:35 PM
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There is plenty of help. There just isn't a solution that 'fixes' it, that's not how anything psychological works. Expecting that will never be reasonable. I get you may not mean it this way, but just using an impossible standard to justify not trying at all is not what OP is asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:44 PM
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Get diagnosed. Get professional help. I know that's not the kind of answer you want, but its going to be the effective answer. The problem most other answers will have is that people can spot someone faking. Its just one of those things people pick up on, so if you just try some strategy people are going to notice, and it won't be clear how or why, because you yourself can't pick up on those same signals. Absent that, I think the only thing you can do is find people that are able and willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:47 PM
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I actually said in my post that it is not fair or meant to be. So why tf are you here crying its not fair? That's the answer as I see it. Your not even arguing for or against anything, your just complaining. You constant need for validation and to be seen as a victim is a psychological problem. Being a teen sucks a lot of time. We all remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:35 PM
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So, what you did is compare the professional setting of work to social media, based on the premise that saying anything like that would be inappropriate at work. Like, people say all kinds of crazy shit on social media. The fact that you are being trained its not okay to do that at work answers the question in and of itself. Moreover, its evidence that society agrees those kinds of posts are too far and is taking measures to combat it affecting work or the world outside social media. I can't tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 05:19 PM
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I'm only going to talk about your polite example, talking about abuse ect... is just a distraction from what I think you are asking. The real honest answer isn't fair or meant to be in my opinion. Women deal with being made uncomfortable by men at an early age, certainly by 14-15. Its normal, being made to feel uncomfortable is normal for a lot of women. So when people say those things, its not specific to you necessarily, rather it serves as a counter balance to the uncomfortable norm for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:57 PM
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who are "them"? Who am I calling fascists other than fascists? Are you saying fascists don't exist at all? This is just confusing mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:48 AM
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You are not a passive observer of your own life. Just framing it as you being let down over and over is disingenuous. You also made choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:37 AM
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If you can tolerate anime give Neon Genesis Evangelion a go. The shows original ending vs End of Evangelion I think really demonstrates the difference in mindset well. Essentially, for as much as some guys here talk about how rational they are, or smart or average or whatever, they have no sense of intrinsic self-worth. Everything is defined externally, and this is not exclusive to men by the way. I'm just addressing the topic set. Feminism has specifically sought to teach women a sense of intri…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:35 AM
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Ah, well incel communities are a filled with young disgruntled and often disenfranchised men, making them ripe for fascists to recruit there. You are right though, they are not directly or necessarily related. The are similar in that they are fringe groups and in the persistence of communities online when they may not have persisted as well without well maintained online presence. The internet makes them, like everything else, more accessible and increases their ability to grow and recruit. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:08 AM
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I don't know when he was in high school, but they do talk about this now, at least in the training I get at work. It should be addressed in high school if its not. There still should be a narrative focusing on men though, for the simple reason that teen males are more aggressive sexually, not even in a bad way necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:57 AM
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I address this in another comment on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:54 AM
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incels don't affect women, and fascists affect everyone. What even is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:52 AM
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You know what mate, you have been reasonable. Explain the problem for me. I have heard bottleblank's version. I'm interested in yours. Only right to give you a fair shake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:52 PM
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oh well if you just say all the data (and overwhelming life experience of anyone over 25) is wrong and biased then it must be wrong. I'll repeat my advice, don't take everything personal mate. Not every issue is a struggle against slavery. That was just unhinged. Honest question, are we not allowed to say rape here? why are you using grape? The contrast of grape with your clear sense of anger is just funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:14 PM
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No offense, but you being 31 wraps you up in my are 'we just old thinking like olds' question. Nobody wanted us hanging out in those places before, but we did. It was fine. 99% of time it was fine, and sometimes you got terrified by an unstable homeless person. What I am thinking about is increased policing and less tolerant communities forcing teens out of those places. **EDIT** I'm 37 for context, and basically assume teens don't give a fuck what I think anymore as a principle. My opinion on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:55 PM
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they did that because men often assume consent in situations they shouldn't. It was framed that way to address actual problems that are relevant to many people (here women). Men doing things to a passed out girl, assuming consent from a gf/wife. I admit, it was a political angle to take, for a specific purpose. Choosing to frame it as protecting women from men is not necessarily balanced visa vi gender, but neither is the prevalence of sexual crimes. So I had a friend in the army and every singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:50 PM
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The most common hypocrisy I see here from men is that they blame women for ignoring red-flags of 'bad men' that abuse ect... but women also burden 'good men' with red-flags they can't help but trigger so those red-flags need to be ignored. Also, a lot of people seem to treat red-flags as isolated, this specific thing is a red-flag of that. I've done it here too now that I think about it. Really, red-flags are a constant calculation against other traits. Yes, he checked my phone without my permis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:41 PM
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I was also thinking about the 7-11 parking lot, alleys and nooks of town, things like that. Even just out on the street without purpose. Those are all places I hung out as a teen when we couldn't afford the theater or didn't want to go far. Like, does anyone get of work at k-mart or wherever, walk to the parking and have your friends there and just hang out right there? Used to do that shit a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:28 PM
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Alright mate, this isn't where you intervene. bottleblank and I have had many conversations over the week (?) or however long. Should this have been said in dm? maybe, but I don't think either of us want to dm. Also, its something more men on here clearly need to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:23 PM
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"You do realize that some men are incapable of accepting how horribly unfair life is right? On a societal level telling men to suck it up,completely ignoring their experiences" Right there, that transition between the first and second sentence you demonstrate the problem with all these arguments. Expecting society to operate at an individual level. Those some men? They need help. Professional help. Society is not responsible for that. It is not a convincing argument to vaguely threaten that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:18 PM
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So, there are two things here. Sudden shifts in social views ect.. are rarely long lasting. I often compare incel stuff to moral panics. Like the moral panic of stanism ect.. they are vaguely shared by society at large with specific inciting events or concerns and localized reactions. Right now what you are describing is still in that moral panic timeframe where it will fade. The real concern is what has happened to incel/fascist communities. The online nature of a lot of those communities makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:10 PM
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No, its dumb to complain about people thinking its creepy.. Try again elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:07 PM
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Second time I've had to do this. I am actually a man. I had serious socialization problems as a teen through my twenties. I was an angry incel before that was a thing. I remember all these things, how it felt, how angry I was, how angry I was people wouldn't take me seriously, all that. I know what it took to stop being so angry and to stop blaming the world for my choices, choices that felt desperate and necessary and the only option at the time. It took nearly a decade for me to actually see h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:06 PM
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I address this in another post in this comment thread. I certainly don't claim to speak for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:22 PM
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You just had to ask me to follow my own analogy. I know it was bad. I tried to relate it to your other points and failed. First, the friends of friends thing. You are right, its not easy, but assuming these are friends that are willing to help you and not just ostracize you, once you do have the skills to not be creepy they are not going to warn off other friends. When the girl you creeped out before says shit, they will say "oh yeah he was weird about that, but hes cool, might be worth a second…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:15 PM
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This is fucking interesting. I don't know about disabled people, veteran spaces are my experience, but I realize that's limited in scope. Teenagers though. That requires a think. I mean all the same places still exist, but especially in towns and cities companies and individuals are less tolerant of teens hanging about like they used to. Edit: less tolerant of teens not contributing economically. Buying food/tickets whatever. What do teenagers nowadays do? Is it all the same shit and I'm just ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:54 PM
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Also, automoderator really does suck. Its good flair, credit where credit is due.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:44 PM
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Well that escalated quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:40 PM
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I'm gonna stop you there mate. Thats not what is being described, the OP is talking about parties both people are at, and in other comments you talk about being at the pool/beach together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:34 PM
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Its obvious you have a lot you want to talk about on this subject, but the way you asked the question is so broad and wandering as to be unapproachable in any meaningful way. If you just wanted to be able to "disprove" criticism by saying they didn't address the whole thing, then well done, bad faith argument achieved. Thats not the impression I get though. Maybe consider trying to focus the idea more before asking for responses. Ignoring the use of the word 'cuck', men in these situations are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:30 PM
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As I explained, your every perceived grievance and victim complex are not "serious issues" anyone needs to engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:16 PM
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Way to completely absolve yourself of responsibility here. You didn't make any choices that led to your current circumstances, the circumstances dictated everything. I'm already certain what my next response will be. circumstances restraining or dictating a limited set of choices is not a defense. You chose. You choose not to accept an altered condition of friendship. You chose not to impress on them its importance to you. Stop trying to explain why you are always the victim. I am getting tired …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:06 PM
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Actually acknowledge the problem. - We do. The problem is some men's sense of entitlement and failures mixing to create hostile and sometimes violent ideologies targeting people who are not to blame because someone has to be at blame. the problem is not exclusively limited to how it feels. As I have pointed out many times. Stop blaming and shaming men for their lack of success - This is more complex, but essentially you just need to accept that some people are shit and as long as basic principle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:46 PM
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"Furthermore, the more times he shows interest in women who are in or near his social circle, the more likely he is to gain a bad reputation. " This is simple, and I've mentioned it before. Don't use your immediate social circle to practice those skills. If you are creepy to some fiends of friends, yeah its not gonna be great but you can rehabilitate that by actually improving. Rehabilitate a reputation of hitting on the females in the immediate group? Probably not going to happen. Think of it l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:17 PM
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Do you honestly think you are entitled to be taken seriously no matter how stupid or bad what you say is? You have already proven you do not deserve to be taken seriously, at all. No explanations. No answering specific questions, nothing. You fundamentally fail to be worth even trying to engage with at that level. Nobody is reasonably going to meet you half-way for a discussion when what you say is that fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:02 PM
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Yeah. Still, I am often surprised how many of them aren't even aware enough to not say the quiet part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:11 PM
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Based on most of your reaction to most of the responses I'm just gonna assume this is troll bait and say: She does hate you and want you to be jealous, and she is absolutely waiting for the opportunity to cheat on you. Cut your loses and be forever alone. The world will thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:06 PM
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Not just borders, it is extremely paranoid and self-absorbed. But thanks for being more gentle than I would have ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:04 PM
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Its amazing how many guys on here are so quick to completely disregard any mention or concern for women when pressed even the tiniest bit. You literally only talked about men's experiences in that system. Fucking fix yourself mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:53 PM
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"Women never risk, or just normally don't having their social awkwardness or social ineptness be dismissed or be perceived as weird or creepy when interacting with the other sex but men do unfortunately obviously. Its like Women can get away with not understanding social boundaries, social cues, but men can't." I want to address this specifically before I more broadly try and respond. There are roughly two answers to why this seems to happen more often, that women are permitted social faux pas a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:48 PM
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"Back in the day when monogamy, arranged marriages, and your pool was limited" Are you suggesting that it was more meritocratic when this was true? Or are you suggesting that the imperfectly meritocratic system of today is worse than a blatantly non-meritocratic one? Either way, WTF dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:24 PM
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As I said, a mind without equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:18 PM
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I love arguments like this. The dead can't defend themselves so morons just cherry pick what they want to try and claim the dead as one of their own. Also, fuck right off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:17 PM
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anger is orthogonal to ideologies of hate? Fuck right off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:13 PM
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Fuck right off. This has nothing to do with anything. No matter the answer "how strong is he" is only one of a near infinite number of factors someone might consider when dating. You are an idiot, as you have proven over and over again while you try to cleverly respond to my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:10 PM
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Society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:04 PM
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Are you hearing this rhetoric from anyone arguing against RP ideology? It seems like the entire concept is so grim. I anticipate a lot of real dark answers here. I'm asking about if you are hearing it from other sources because I would love to know how it is being framed. Is it as grim and fatalistic as the inevitable answers I know are coming your way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:47 PM
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Maybe because the civil rights movement in the US is taught and remembered in the context of the advancement of black Americans, whereas the history of many other minorities is so underrepresented, misrepresented and/or politicized by other issues like manifest destiny and national identity during American expansion that those perspectives are not as easily identifiable and are then less useful for such a broad statement that I am actually applying to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:31 PM
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Cool story bro. Way to completely fail to engage with the argument being made. Valuable contribution there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:56 PM
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If you don't understand sarcasm then you can piss right off mate. How about enforcing the whole "do not downvote" instead eh? Seen that anywhere recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:43 PM
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Wow. That is a lot mate. Let me just say, you have a clear pattern of language that is in itself pretty damn problematic. You are switching between colloquial general language and highly categorical language all throughout this, and it is a mess. Not only that, the words you use and the context is its own thing. I get your trying to put forth an opinion here, but the framing of it all is just comically absurd, not because of any specific part, but because as a whole it so clearly rejects any ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:17 PM
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I guess its not the wrong place per say, you are just going to get a whole lot of insane ideas explaining all kinds of crap. I mean you do you, I just really hope you know to take answers from here with an enormous grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:10 PM
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So we should fix all aspects of society such that no fringe groups need arise.. It will be a Brave New World.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:07 PM
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I've been trying to think of the right argument but just can't right now. I need to reread some books. Sorry mate, I have spent the last like 10 minutes re-writing arguments and they all sucked. Maybe I'm just wrong. I'll ask you instead. What makes cultural factors physical concepts? I don't see the argument to begin with. If you have one that would be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:05 PM
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lol. Fair enough, I didn't realize until after you also wrote that awesome heritability comment. My bad all the way through.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:41 PM
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Am I sensing sarcasm? Looking through your recent posts I think I might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:31 PM
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Yes. I mean its clear we agree here, I'm just wondering why you specify "genetic determinism." I don't think there can even be such a thing as social or cultural determinism. So an idea of environmental determinism that includes those concepts is categorically not deterministic. It is introducing nonphysical concepts of necessary cause and effect. I guess my point is there is no genetic vs environmental determinism debate to be had. its genetic determinism or not determinism. That is the discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:24 PM
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"A high heritability of a trait, i.e. most of the variation in the trait within the populous arises from genetic rather than environmental variance" A lot of great stuff in your post, I want to point one thing out people will miss, relevant because social and environmental factors do effect heritable traits. Heritability does not require that genes be the cause of a given trait, but that the trait is strongly identified with genetic variability. So, Number of eyes (or limbs) as you point out are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:13 PM
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I get it. I'm saying broadening what can count as sexual selection in that way is a form of social darwinism. Its a fundamentally incorrect use of the term. I get people use words and phrases colloquially, but people use sexual selection specifically because it is not colloquial, it is scientific. Its origin in science gives it validity which the opinion being expressed lacks. Its an attempt at gesturing towards something scientific (biological) to make fundamentally unscientific (non-biological…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:54 PM
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Even then, that fact that you are not talking about a strictly or overwhelmingly biological process means that using 'sexual selection' is a misappropriation. I know its not that important all in all, but it is one of the things that really annoys me. Social Darwinism is a huge problem persistent in all kinds of terrible ideologies, in both large and small ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:44 PM
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That is called more generally Determinism. That all physical reality, including human action has a specific identifiable physical cause. While they may not say it explicitly, a lot of RP ideology rests on this philosophy. As for you, I took your question seriously because the way you frame it with the use of 'implication' suggested you understand a difference between social behavior and a biological process. With that being true, its just not correct to use 'sexual selection' when talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:40 PM
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Irrelevant to this discussion mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:32 PM
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You have it backwards. "So you’re saying that the biological choices women make have very little social impact?" Just reversing it like this has its own problems, but broadly I'm saying the social decisions women make have a biological impact. Please don't take this too strictly, just trying to demonstrate that you are thinking in the wrong direction. The better summation is: Biological concerns have less impact on decisions women make than social concerns. "genes driving everything" is exactly …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:26 PM
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So, an interesting question. I just want to touch on one thing. The idea of 'sexual selection' as an evolutionary description of biology has vanishingly little bearing on how people actually make choices on who to date, or marry or whatever. I know that especially RP guys want to disagree on this, but there are just too many factors and influences on these decisions to even try to attribute them to some biological process or, as is often the case, deterministic causation (women prefer tall men b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:13 PM
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"You're effectively telling him to shut up and accept it, which he has every right to contest. Because you're trying to tell him there is no systemic problem when there very clearly is" No, I am not. Nobody is. What we are saying is that he needs to shut up because the arguments he is making, racist arguments, are fundamentally unacceptable and will not be allowed to enter any conversation. You keep trying to do this man. Just stop. Nobody is trying to deny the validity of your experiences. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:39 PM
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The world doesn't care if anyone lives or dies. I'll just get this out of the way first: "Writing it off as a "them" problem and not a societal failure to support those who needed it." Disagree as much as you like with this premise, but follow me for a minute. Society and in general institutional 'support' is mostly limited to protections. The kinds of support people often bring up to counter this are not social support failures, but personal failures by individuals to offer support. At what poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:22 PM
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Are you saying these women expect men to physically intervene? Or are you using that as an example of a more broad expectation for men to confront bad behavior in other men? Honest question. The way you phrase this all has a real "you need to stand a fight" tone to it of what women expect. That is not at all what most women expect when they say men need to hold each other accountable. Holding each other accountable isn't just confrontation in a physical or dramatic sense, its telling your friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:36 AM
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I just want to point out that this line of questioning is made absurd from get go. The number of people with down syndrome is small, compared to society as a whole. I don't want to make to many assumptions here, but based on the question being asked on this sub, it seems like you think or suspect the difference might be based on principles that apply or can be applied more generally. This is absurd. This would be like assuming that studying sea turtles can give you information relevant to all se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:19 AM
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The obvious problem with RP and blackpill is that they are built on false premises. Sure, just making things up to support a logic works, its creates valid logic that is appealing, often because the false premise serves the function of confirmation bias, but its not true. Its not sound. Thats what most guys here and in RP seem to miss. For an argument to be logical, it has to be both valid and sound. Sound requires all the premises be true. fyi for all you wanna be logicians, that's why nit-pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:06 AM
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Yeah mate. Obviously you're someone to take seriously because you talk shit. It's not like there is a stereotype of someone constantly barking with no bite. If you honestly think society is to blame for giving power to fringe groups because society refuses to engage seriously with those groups nobody here can help you. You are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:56 AM
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To summarize your premise, all anger is equally valid regardless of cause, and action must be taken to alleviate it. I'll just get to it. Racists are angry, is that equally valid? We need to listen to and appease racists?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:49 AM
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This is going to sound more aggressive than I mean, so just know that You wouldn't have to be told repeatedly if you listened AND, AND changed your behavior. Not just within the limits of what your comfortable with and then decide "well women aren't expected to do all this changing, its unfair so fuck it." That's what most guys on PPD do when told to change, even the ones that really are looking for advice and not just complaining. Also, the fact that you are so quick to bring up a lack of "thir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:44 AM
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I'm just going to complete this line of thinking and ask, whats your opinion of black people? native americans/aboriginals? Not doing so great eh? Fucking 'sad and laughable" them are. **EDIT** the now deleted comment I am addressing argued that it would be sad and laughable if affirmative action measures did not result in women surpassing men in the workforce. Just for context of why the now disappeared moron decided to disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:37 AM
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What you are ignoring obviously on purpose is that it is better to work because pay is so low for so many jobs, men and women. It is necessarily better to have enough money to live than to not. That requires women to work in many cases Your entire line of arguments is a transparent attempt at bad faith nit-picking. This is why people tell you to shut up and go away IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:27 AM
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As you are certainly alluding to, its such a common tactic used by guys here. They either shove the issue into a discussion to undermine criticism, or they bake it into the argument to prevent criticism. Then, when you point out autism and other atypical traits often require personal help, they yell back "well it doesn't work." I suppose PPD is supposed to advance psychological understandings and practices by generations then eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:15 PM
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Fair enough. Honestly, I'm not sure I agree that people should have as easy a time entering highly specialized professions later in life as they do earlier. Lets take a Doctor for example. Certainly a 32yo can be as effective as a 22yo. 10 years of experience is a lot. Even over the course of a lifetime a decade is a significant amount of experience lost in a profession that requires both a high degree of education and experience. I think there are professions that would benefit from being easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:41 PM
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This is predicated on the idea that young women want to or should want to have children around 20. What I'm saying is solving the problem isn't going to result in women having families earlier. They will still likely want other things more, unless there is radical shift in social norms. Its an admittedly poor example given actual data, but this is like saying better education will result in less teen sex, without mentioning at all why teens want to have sex. The distinguishing thing being better…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:01 PM
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Mate, you just went on an insane tirade about income inequality and your conclusion is it makes dating too hard? First, yes. Also first, that is one of the many many reasons to fix the cost of education and income disparity. Certainly not the first or most important, but one of them. Honestly, how do you come up with this argument, which makes sense, then conclude with "I'm being gaslight about dating" and not "oh fuck the world is a nightmare from which there is no escape" The fact that women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:23 PM
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thank you for explaining to me that all action is deterministic, and free will doesn't exist. Women are compelled to behave a specific way, and nothing exists outside of that absolute immutable truth. And for quoting "your kind" even though that is never said in this comment thread, by me or anyone else. You clearly have a better understanding of my own thoughts and words than I do. Truly, you are a mind without equal. That isn't even facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:32 PM
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