Smart_Curve_5784 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
39	Have you heard of Postgenderism?	discussion	Smart_Curve_5784	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/06/25 06:16 PM

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2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? People are a product of the society they were raised in and the time they were born in Society does change. Change is the only constant. We have been through so many, what makes you think this one is where people will falter? People are a product of the society they were raised in and the time they were born in People were raised in times of slavery or when certain groups didn't have rights, yet the world has progressed past those points. I see gender as yet another type of discrimination and se…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/06/25 09:03 AM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? You're welcome! I enjoy discussing and honing these ideas, I think this is important I think you are assuming everyone has your degree of agency tho Then, even if so, right now gender is involuntary. As in, people are not given a choice but to participate in it. That is harmful, it suppresses authenticity, and people are not feeling guided by it at large: people are pissed, scared, left to feel insecure for not fitting in when there is nothing wrong with them	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/06/25 12:55 PM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? There should be guidance where it is needed. Children need guidance on how to deal with their emotions. Humans benefit from guidance that helps them express themselves and hold space for other people. Guidance is great in instructions to appliances But no, I do not think humans need guidance on what to wear unless it's a temperature or safety thing. I do not think children should be taught that they need to behave differently due to their sex or to treat a half of population differently due to g…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/06/25 12:42 PM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Guidance for what?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/06/25 12:11 PM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? How would you say stereotypes are useful? I think stereotypes are a symptom. A self-fulfilling prophecy. If you decide that a person who's a "man" should take on a certain role and thus shouldn't, for example, cry, you will suppress that in that person through social shame. That person will not cry in public. Do it to enough people, and now you have a stereotype that is true, but is it useful and harmful, or should it be questioned? I think the word 'stereotype' is neutral and sometimes has plac…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/06/25 11:30 AM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I don't want to see the reaction a genuine post gender movement is going to provoke. Then close your eyes It might be worth revisiting once we have reached true gender equality though. Gender is made to be unequal, it is a hierarchial societal category. By definition they aren't equal, they are different, and that will always cause problems. The only way to liberation is retiring the concept. I keep saying and I don't see you recieving that gender is the cause of the problems caused by it Just b…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/06/25 03:32 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? The reason women find that attractive is because they're conditioned to. The whole "I want to feel protected," "Idk why but I want him to be a little taller, I want to feel small (like wtf)," "I want to feel feminine! 1l1" is all the same gender bullshit, and girls are taught to dream about a prince that will come pick them or a man who will protect them from the world Everybody is affected by gender, and postgenderist people, no matter what gender they had to endure experiencing, will always qu…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/06/25 03:20 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I like you. You make me smile	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/06/25 01:57 AM
0	Have you heard of Postgenderism? You're cute and I like you (the little quirks I've seen so far), but it's frustrating to have to keep going over things like these: How would you even decide that? I feel like the choice has already been made. There are no big movements for gender abolitions and the largest movement that I know of, Radical Feminism evolved away from those ideas. Like what do you mean. People are assigned gender when they are born and their life and gendered from that way forward. The binary gender roles are a pr…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/06/25 01:48 AM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? The only way towards abolition is erasure, so of course the problems should be addressed. What I think many don't yet realise is that many of the problems we have today stem directly from gender. Meaning removing gender is the solution, including the progress of moving towards that goal, which by the way I don't think will take centuries! The social construct is indeed real and is very ingrained in our culture throughout history, that's why it is not actively questioned, like a deep tradition. W…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/06/25 12:52 AM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? May I ask where you take your understanding and definition of postgenderism from? What you describe is very specific and extreme, you tie in postgenderism with trans-exclusionary feminism, but terfs seek to reaffirm the sex binary while postgenderism seeks to erase it Postgenderism is ideologically opposite to gender essentialism, and if you view it as transphobic due to that, what are your thoughts about the fact that people who are cis would also no longer have a gender?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 11:31 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Yeah, exactly, but then what's the point of gender in the first place, you know? As a social construct. I think it is impossible to keep gender while also not viewing people through its lense	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 11:00 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Yes! Thank you for sharing, I am glad to hear about people thinking about this. And before technology is there we can already work on the social aspect of involuntary gendering. Just no more of those bs stereotypes!	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 10:23 PM
3	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Thanks for the direct link, I will explore this further. So far this stood out to me: "The relationship between testosterone and aggression may also function indirectly, as it has been proposed that testosterone does not amplify tendencies towards aggression, but rather amplifies whatever tendencies will allow an individual to maintain social status when challenged. In most animals, aggression is the means of maintaining social status. However, humans have multiple ways of obtaining status. This…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 08:34 PM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? In what way? Last time I checked the latest research on testosterone, they had debunked the "testosterone=aggression" myth	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 08:00 PM
-1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? You tell me that it is dangerous to think we know what is best for people, yet you are doing the same, from the way I see it, by advocating for leaving people be with their harmful labels because "they make them happy" You tell me to take people's experience at face value. If this was the case, the whole "I say I'm fine but I'm not really fine" wouldn't exist. People have pushed and reminded to check in on each other, because face value is often nothing but a mask. People lie. All the time. Most…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 07:55 PM
-4	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Hi! I appreciate your comment - long format self-expression is one of the best formats out there! I'll start by saying that I agree with you. I also appreciate the correction that the queer movement seeks to make gender more inclusive and open-ended. That is correct. What I meant to say is that that's a symptom of how limiting the binary is, and that queerness leads to the erosion of the binary, which is great! Regarding progress - the queer movement is growing and society is moving towards post…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:09 PM
-1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I think every man is an individual and will decide for themselves. The gender binary is removing choice from children by involuntarily assigning them a social role they then have to perform. There is no choice in that. I think that's bad	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 04:12 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Nobody is pretending! Postgenderism is pro-science. I think the differences between human sexes do not have a significant impact on one's personality. I think the the differences in behaviour that we see are societally conditioned and reinforced all the way from birth. Gender social conditioning is harmful and should be done away with nurture vs nature	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 03:21 PM
0	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I understand what you are saying, and perhaps technically it is so, but still, In our modern world, I am inclined to disagree - I think that people initially came up with gender based on the difference between sexes, yes But in a modern society we can, rightfully, devalue sex in the social context and stop perpetuating the gender binary by eradicating it from media and socialisation, especially when it comes to children The understanding that sex does not have a significant impact on one's perso…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 02:50 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Hi, thank you for your comment! Postgenderism doesn't seek to reaffirm the sex binary. Within the binary trans people are fully the gender they transition to. Postgenderism removes the need to transition because there would be no gender in the first place. People who want to change their body to be like the opposite sex can still do so and are encouraged to do so, because Postgenderism promotes choice over biology! That said, postgenderism is ideologically opposed to gender essentialism, but I h…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 02:26 PM
-3	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Could you elaborate on what you mean? Because, with the way I understood your comment, Postgenderism actually goes all the way, promoting transhumanism and advanced technologies to help people blurry the lines of sex. The goal is to eventually get rid of all involuntary gendering, honouring individual choice Postgenderism does not seek to rearffim the sex binary	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 02:10 PM
-3	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Hi, thank you for sharing your perspective I understand the sentiment of enmeshing your identity with social roles and how much that can mean to people and that there are positive feelings and secondary gains people can experience due to it. Still, I would guess more people than you realise do not enjoy the forced nature of gender roles and the stereotypes, the baggage that accompany them. The whole queer movement, or cis people defying stereotypes - all of that IS pushing back on gender roles a…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 02:07 PM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? This place literally has the word 'male' in it. Out of all "men's spaces" this could be the most receptive to the idea of liberating men from gender roles and seeing them as human first, pushing back on the indoctrination and violence boys face from early on in their lives Postgenderism seeks to erase these stereotypes and prevent the pain they cause to people, to stop discrimination - because this gender separation is at the root	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 01:57 PM
0	Have you heard of Postgenderism? What does determine gender identities?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 06:29 AM
-2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? It was still men and women all over the world. Back then gender roles happened due to the reproductive differences in sexes. The modern world does not need that anymore to function; it is detrimental to well-being	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 06:07 AM
5	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I do not understand your passion. I said, "from what I know." I welcomed you to enlighten me. You speak of the importance of the knowledge you claim to possess, yet, when invited, you do not share it	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:43 AM
-8	Have you heard of Postgenderism? In a postgenderist world, societally there would be no need to transition, because there would be no gender to wrongfully assign. In terms of addressing sex dysphoria and acquiring desired body characteristics, postgenderism fully supports body modification however one likes	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:41 AM
-1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I think the "old world" is when gender roles were created and were most functional; one's sex directly defined one's social destiny. In the "new world," I observe erasure of the traditional gender roles, but they are still present as an archaic item from the past, since they are so ingrained in our culture. But gender roles have no presence in the modern world, and they hold people back. Nowadays we have no need for them and can and should discard them	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:38 AM
4	Have you heard of Postgenderism? I fail to see how that is relevant, and I question the very nature of what you are asking. Do you want me to grovel because I happen to have a stance? Will you admit it was irresponsible of you to assert yours if whatever you might share is not up to standard?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:28 AM
1	Have you heard of Postgenderism? You are going to simply tell me to abandon my line of thinking or are you going to very kindly point me in the direction of evidence so that I can enlighten myself with what you obviously believe are proven facts?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:23 AM
-3	Have you heard of Postgenderism? This is a gender essentialist perspective. From what I know, we do not have evidence that confirms that gender (stereotypey behaviour) is inherent, even as a trend	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:07 AM
-3	Have you heard of Postgenderism? However, today we live in a world where the term non-binary gender is actively used, and so it's no longer possible to equate the fight against gender and gender binary. Non-binary exists as a response to the still existing binary. Gender (the binary) is still involuntary in our world. Non-binary proves how the binary is insufficient and oppressive; queerness is a natural symptom. Postgenderism doesn't seek to erase these new gender identities, but instead advocates for a world where there is no…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 05:05 AM
2	Have you heard of Postgenderism? The argument against postgenderism is semantic: what postgenderists want to destroy is not necessarily what most people call gender. This is an interesting take; according to how you see it, what do most people call 'gender'? Could you elaborate on the semantic argument against postgenderism you mentioned?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 04:41 AM
-4	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Because I do not agree with the premise that gender is an involuntarily You disagree with the fact that children are involuntarily assigned a gender at birth based on their assigned sex at birth and afterwards socialised and conditioned in a gendered way? that gender itself is problematic What is gender? Gender is a social role based on one's assigned sex. As mentioned before, boys and girls are indoctrinated into them from infancy up. Gender roles lead to discrimination and limit self-expressio…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 04:22 AM
-8	Have you heard of Postgenderism? No, there is no misunderstanding You hate on what gender as a social construct does to people Yet you want to keep gender Why?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 04:13 AM
-13	Have you heard of Postgenderism? You are literally describing the postgenderist perspective and seem to already subscribe to it in your life. I think the issue here is that you fail to see that in order to, quote, "stop treating gender roles like they define what people are allowed to do and how societal responsibility is divided" we do in fact need to erase gender, because the involuntarily enforced binary is the problem, and your examples are a symptom	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 04:09 AM
-6	Have you heard of Postgenderism? Let's go! Amazing stuff. Neither do I Here's to a brighter future with no gender/sex categories 🥛🥛 (couldn't find a cup of water emoji)	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/06/25 03:55 AM
0	How to make abortion morally okay ? What about the fact that pregnancy and childbirth mutilate the bodies of women and girls? Making it so a female cannot have an abortion means that her body will be mutilated for certain. Any type of abortion from quick morning pill to later stages, whatever discomfort and side effects they bring, do not hold a candle to what natural pregnancy and childbirth or c section does - what a woman is condemned to if she doesn't want to carry, but laws don't give her a choice. Do MRA's put the safety of …	/r/MensRights	29/05/25 01:57 PM
-22	Medical misogyny leaves women in pain for years, say MPs Patriarchy and misogyny affect everyone. Men and women mistreat other women and women mistreat very own selves due to misogynistic beliefs. You don't know enough on the topic you speak of, like many here. This place is a place for men to victimise each other no matter the topic and somehow the ones who are at fault are mostly women and feminism I wish the moderators of this place cared about your mental health enough to provide some facts and definitions, instead men here still genuinely believe…	/r/MensRights	12/12/24 08:23 AM
1	How to cope? How is feminism against men? What is it doing to disenfranchise men? Would you like to tell me about your experiences? I want to understand better Also, what does my saying "feminism isn't against men" tell you about me, as you claim?	/r/MensRights	19/09/24 05:35 PM
-5	How to cope? I looked them up. So the only feminists you consider good are those who enable misogyny? And I suspect that's because they do so by acting like misogyny isn't real, which you seem to agree with Could you tell me about the education crisis, the male's right to education? How is it being threatened and what role does feminism play? Any link you consider informative will do, as well. This is what I found, and I think it a good educational article While we are on this topic, what is your opinion on …	/r/MensRights	19/09/24 07:51 AM
-8	How to cope? Feminism isn't against men. Feminists do not hate you for having been born male. Feminists hate those who hate women If you are pro-men's happiness, it is in your interest to be a feminist, in order to change the world for the better by raising awareness of the pain of all people and nurturing emotional intelligence and empathy Patriarchy is a system of society in which women are second class citizens due to simply having been born female. When patriarchy is mentioned, that's what it typically m…	/r/MensRights	19/09/24 06:25 AM