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CMVSmellCrossestheLine/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:02 PM
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instead of blaming the opposite gender for traits that isn't gender specific or all encompassing. I do not blame anybody. What exactly do you disagree with what I typed? Let's start from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:18 PM
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That is all a contradiction. It is akin to wanting a man who is both short and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:16 PM
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No, but read the rest of my post. I honestly think half of the people here did not bother to read the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:26 PM
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even if hot, outgoing women who like excitement date hot nice guys, they still find hot bad boys attractive. In fact, they still find any hot guy attractive. In fact, most women still find hot guys attractive Now you are conflating bad boys with being attractive. Even the women who professed progressive values and married nice men got bored of their partner's nice personality and were tempted by the dangerous bad boys. Again, every erotic novel for women involves a nice girl falling for a sexy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:17 PM
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No, I have not. Again, she admitted that him vacuuming i.e. being nice would turn her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:15 PM
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Paywall
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:18 PM
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It seems to me you just want to call anyone attractive a “bad boy” and anyone not a “nice guy.” Not at all. Please read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:18 PM
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OK, so we are back to the same point. Women like bad boy traits because they denote provisioning ability, and dislike nice guys because they denote a lack of said ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:16 PM
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Yea it shows men do just as bad behavior as the bad womynz you whine about. So what? I don’t know what to tell you either. Then don't comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:07 AM
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Do Stephen Pinker and Geoffrey Miller Hell if I know. Ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:59 AM
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Nah this whole post is personal. I don't know what to tell you. Men cheat on their pregnant wive’s with hot women, and you would think they’re nothing more attractive personality wise than a woman carrying your child, but men still cheat. This is neither here nor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:57 AM
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I am going to quote the New York Times piece: His wife now seemed less interested in having sex with him. He turned to her and asked why. Was she still attracted to him? After all, he wondered, why did she appear less interested now that their relationship seemed stronger in all the ways she wanted? “I’m very attracted to you,” she said earnestly. “You know when I really crave you? It’s when you’re just back from the gym and you’re all sweaty and you take off your clothes to get in the shower an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:55 AM
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OK? Are you going to actually answer the questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:49 AM
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Women in egalitarian relationships report feeling sexually unsatisfied because their husbands are less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:48 AM
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Women in egalitarian relationships are sexually unsatisfied because their husbands are less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:47 AM
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There are similar types of stories in which instead of being an asshole the guy is depressed or deals with some form of PTSD. The outcome is more or less the same, she will heal him, they will live together happily. Do you think that women are sexually excited by depression/PTSD? Or by the prospect of "saving" a guy she was already attracted to to begin with? The bad boys are attractive because they are bad; they are dangerous and exciting. The very traits that make them a bad partner also make …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:46 AM
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Yeah, I said more than once that women do not necessarily want to sleep with somebody they fantasize about. I said this in the comment you are quoting and several times in the original post. I am talking about carnal attractions. People do not necessarily always act on the attraction. Do you not see a difference between "I won't date X because I am not attracted to him". and "Even though I am attracted to X, I won't date him because he is an unstable partner". As I said in the OP Of course, just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:42 AM
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I said nothing about myself. I do not know why you are making this personal. Also, could you answer any of my questions? For instance, explain why women married to nice guys are bored and cheat with bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:39 AM
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https://psyarxiv.com/jp2ym/ https://osf.io/n4hj6/ https://osf.io/a6byr/ https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/136549v3 https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/155788v1 https://slate.com/human-interest/2010/09/the-many-weaknesses-of-ovulation-studies.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/02/ovulation-nation.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/01/ovulating-woman-seeks-better-science.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/ovulation-research-women-replication-crisis.html?fbclid=IwAR…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:36 AM
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A lot of that has been called into question due to poor methodology and lack of replicability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:47 AM
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They don't want the men to act sleazy about it, certainly not before they're actually dating If your partner compliments your breasts or bottom or whatever, that likely means they noticed that before you were actually dating. Would you want to date a man who checked out your ass before you even knew one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:26 AM
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It's just objectifying. Women are more than their breasts. In a relationship, it's better to appreciate somebody for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:25 AM
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Ah yes, tankies are red fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:20 AM
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'nice' and 'bad' are ultimately independent of the qualities that women find attractive. This part confuses me. You even said that "That said, yes, in terms of pure fantasy, being a bad boy can add a little something extra to the overall erotic drama that even a very attractive and masculine 'nice guy' has trouble replicating." Does this not mean that there is something sexy about being bad per se? So even the attractive nice guy you describe is at best a compromise between what women really wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:19 AM
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Plus there is literature by men written about problematic women and some guy suffering over them as well. Such as? I also want OP to define bad boys. Dangerous, volatile men who are exciting but unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:15 AM
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it's not surprising that women who lose desire for their spouse for this reason fantasise about "bad boys" because conflict/tension can be a very effective source of or stand-in for passion (for both men and women), as well as the illicit aspect of sex with someone you're not 'supposed' to want. It may not be healthy or durable in the long term but that's irrelevant for the purposes of fantasy so of course it's popular in women's erotica. So do you agree with my post? As for real life, I'm not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:14 AM
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No, I am saying the qualities that make a bad boy- danger, aggression, volatility,-are themselves attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:11 AM
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No, I am saying the qualities that make a bad boy- danger, aggression, volatility,-are themselves attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:11 AM
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OP is dumb lol. One of the red pill copers who think going to the gym and ‘acting alpha’ will make them taller with a stronger jawline. Nah, I do not "act alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:11 AM
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Can you think of any examples? Studies show women see muscular men as good potential casual sex partners, but not as long-term romantic partners. Also, good relationships can't be built on physical attraction alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:09 AM
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Well, what do you think of the evidence I provided?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:08 AM
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the delicate, tentative guy who politely thinks about you and asks if this is okay or that is okay is a guy who may meet the expectations of your gender politics (treats me as an equal; is respectful of me; communicates with me) and your parents’ preferences, but he may also put you into a sexual coma—not despite these qualities, but because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:07 AM
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Do you want to be with somebody who only views you as the stable alternative to what they really want?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:07 AM
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You spend entirely too much time speculating about the minute details of female nature. That's super blue pilled simping. Cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:06 AM
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I don’t have the impression that women are attracted to bad boys but rather dangerous men Yeah, that's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:04 AM
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I am talking about carnal attractions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:03 AM
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Some women are going to find the bad boy mostly too dangerous, though, so they are going to gravitate towards the handsome gentleman, who still has the alpha traits of being handsome and charming, but is not unreliable and dangerous like the bad boy. So they pick the gentlemen because he makes for a better partner even though they find the bad boy more attractive. I think you and I agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:36 AM
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So you agree with the post then? That bad boys are sexually attractive because they are masculine and macho, whilst nice guys are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 08:34 AM
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Like that you can't allow immigrants into the country because it would screw up the Glorious Redistribution of Resources, or that social issues should be ignored because There Is Only Class Struggle At the End. Not all leftists think like this. Democratic Socialists of America supports open borders and is very committed to social issues. Bernie Sanders has a lifetime of tirelessly advocating for racial justice, feminism, and LGBTQ rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:46 PM
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I can't imagine a woman being fine with her boyfriend saying "You have great tits" or something. Wouldn't you prefer somebody who does not objectify you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:33 PM
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Pretty much same thing. Lots of overlap. No. A liberal asks "Why aren't there more black and female billionaires?" A leftist asks "Why are there any billionaires"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:31 PM
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So it seems like you agree with "Alpha fucks, beta bucks", no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:01 PM
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between a nice handsome gentleman, a rebellious bad boy, and an ordinary woman This is exactly my point; they are conflicted between the responsible choice and the sexy choice. In other words, what they should want and what they really want. Why are there not examples of erotic literature without the rebellious bad boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:54 PM
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Yes, because it's an outdated symbol, and by the time a woman is old enough to be answering surveys, she's got associations based on experience, not just instinct. Again, the women answering the survey perceived muscular men to be more aggressive and worse boyfriends. Says who? Every girl I know who's into fitness stuff is happily partnered with a built guy. It's very normal. I assume these are young couples who are likely primarily focused on sex. Physical attraction is not a good basis for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:52 PM
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A suave playboy would be very clean, no? Why do you find lean muscle attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:48 PM
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Why should a nice guy change his personality for a woman who is mentally broken? I am not saying if he should or should not. I am saying his partner will get bored and sexually turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:42 PM
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There's probably a nurture component somewhere in there. Society is not some preordained vacuum foisted onto people. If people are conditioned to like bad boys because they are considered attractive in their respective society, how did they get to be considered attractive in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:41 PM
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So what is a man who is not aggressive or violent to do? Give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:38 PM
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First is just raw anger that women dare to be attracted to other men while in relationship. I have no anger, raw or otherwise. Bad news is, practically every human does this. I have been intensely attracted to my wife's friends, her sister, her coworkers, etc the list goes on. Do you find these other women attractive just because of how they look or do they have personalities you find more exciting and sexy than that of your wife? It's one thing to be attracted to other people. I like fries, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:37 PM
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OK. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:05 PM
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TikTok girls are not attractive for being exhibitionists. They are attractive because of their looks. Men are not going to be attracted to women they cannot see. The bad boy is attractive because of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:04 PM
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How much do you think is in each bucket?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:03 PM
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Once again, the links I showed demonstrated that the women were bored by the personalities of the nice guys and turned on by the personalities of the bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:02 PM
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the delicate, tentative guy who politely thinks about you and asks if this is okay or that is okay is a guy who may meet the expectations of your gender politics (treats me as an equal; is respectful of me; communicates with me) and your parents’ preferences, but he may also put you into a sexual coma—not despite these qualities, but because of them. So do you disagree with this quote? You yourself even said that a bad boy would be sexier than an attractive nice guy That said, yes, in terms of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:01 PM
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A man who will connect with her based on looks... will dump her based on looks. This is not just about looks. The women leave the nice guys because they are bored by their personalities. The bad boy is sexy because of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:52 PM
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Why are bad boys hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:51 PM
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Even if men date nice girls they always find hot women attractive. That's all about appearance. That has nothing to do with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:51 PM
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Studies show women do. Again, why are there so few examples of women in happy, stable relationships with muscular men? Could it be that women only see muscular men as good for sex but not reliable for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:50 PM
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So why is it that women married to "nice guys" feel sexually unsatisfied and are drawn to bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:45 PM
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Since we are talking non-appearance traits, then lets assume 'nice guys and 'bad boys' all meet whatever appearance threshold is necessary. Appearance is part of the mix. Muscularity is associated with violent, aggressive, and dangerous personalities. That is why women feel sexually attracted to muscular men but do not want to date them. Think about it this way; why are there so few examples of women in stable, happy long-term relationships with muscular men? But of course your statement is a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:42 PM
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Part of being hot is displaying that macho, aggressive, dangerous personality. Women married to "nice guys" feel sexually unsatisfied and are drawn to bad boys. u/boomcheese44 Why are there so few examples of women in happy, stable relationships with muscular men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:24 PM
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Well, that has nothing to do with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:02 PM
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A lot of the erotic lit you're talking about feeds into "project" and/or savior fantasies. You will be hard-pressed to find a "bad boy" love story where he doesn't become significantly softer by the end. You will be even harder pressed to find a bad boy who's like that just because he sucks, not as a direct result of some kind of trauma or tragic back story that the protagonist must help him resolve so he can become a better person. That's a potential reason why women are attracted to these men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:01 PM
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How, exactly, are you defining a "bad boy"? It's nebulous. I'm using it to refer to more masculine, macho men who are aggressive and dangerous. also, this idea that muscularity is a symbol of "badness" is absurd. It's, if anything, a symbol of provisioning ability Studies show women associate muscularity with volatility and aggression. Why are there so few examples of women in happy, stable relationships with muscular men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:59 PM
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That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:56 PM
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