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ADVICESmokeySunDrops/r/RedPillWives19/08/24 11:33 PM
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10

Then it's a good thing I don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:50 PM
13

I'm afraid a guy would just say yes out of desperation and only care about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:46 PM
1

We weren't dating. And you're a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:05 PM
3

It's a lived experience a whole fucking lot of us share
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:52 AM
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Dad bods are hot, dunno what else to tell ya
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:28 AM
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Oh, there's plenty of trash in red pill that believe men are superior. I don't deny that. What matters is what the ideology says. It doesn't say men are superior. It doesn't say men are entitled to women's bodies. It doesn't say to murder your wife. I understand the emotional attack because there are plenty of misogynists That employ red pill theory, especially the type that will end up hurting women, Just because a lot of people are crappy drivers, it does not mean that car s exist to kill peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:39 AM
3

It does matter, op is claiming the red pill encourages people to murder their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:34 AM
1

So the article posted is as understandable to you as let's say, A person killing their parent to get speed up an inheritance? You're really going to say that it makes just as much sense as what that man did to his wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:33 AM
1

Oh don't get me wrong, there's plenty of absolute trash in the red pill spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:30 AM
1

Did that sound like a demand? Do you know what the word rather means? Are you dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:19 AM
3

If I were forced to be in a relationship with someone like that? If I knew he was cheating I would choose that so I could never be intimate with him again. If the cheating was without my knowledge then I would rather choose hitting instead. I could figure out how to poison him I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:58 AM
8

Show me anywhere in red pill ideology where it tells you to murder your wife and I'll apologize lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:52 AM
-1

That's your point maybe, but not the conversation being discussed currently
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:37 AM
-2

Oh please how many egalitarian marriages end up in an honor killing because the husband changed ideologies halfway through the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:30 AM
2

So you just mean abuse in general? Because it sounded like you were endorsing male superiority for a second there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:31 AM
9

It's just not a gendered issue. If somebody needs help, help them, If you are too afraid of someone being violent against you for helping, that's understandable. What's shameful would be to not help somebody because of their gender, or their race, or their orientation , or so on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:25 AM
30

I think it's more like men fantasizing about women being hurt or killed for their wicked ways. After all, op isn't here imagining himself as being a hero
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 11:03 PM
3

You said there are other ways to force your wife into submission besides divorce and murder
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:33 PM
4

Divorce is fairly easy to obtain, so what ways of force are you threatening?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:16 PM
11

That may be worth it to stick it out for a man, but as a woman, if a man is hitting me, the chances that he will murder me skyrocket. I'm not taking that risk in the hopes that he does enough self-work to get better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:50 PM
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The question was do I think red pill ideology is going to cause enough friction in marriages to cause more murder. No I don't. I think it will cause more divorce at most, and less marriage in the first place, but I highly doubt that this specific scenario is going to increase in any statistically meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:42 PM
21

Women don't complain about wanting strange men to protect them. We would rather live in a world that didn't require heroic intervention at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:37 PM
18

And I answered your question about tensions in marriage. Why wouldn't a change in ideology cause tension with somebody that you are married to? Do you think ideological tension is a reasonable motive for murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:35 PM
14

My sense of self is based on my decisions and actions not someone else's. In either case, if he does that to me and I stay that erodes my sense of self
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:28 PM
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The entire premise of your question is twisted. Red pill ideology is not to choke your wife to death, this man was clearly deranged Your question at the end, wondering if red pill will cause tensions to arise in marriage? Sure, it probably will. Ideological changes will always cause friction in marriage. Do I think it will encourage more spousal murder? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:25 PM
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I have self-respect so I would be single
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:16 PM
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Will you be collecting identifying information as well?
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/24 04:15 PM
1

But they aren't just complaining, they are vehemently hating women for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:14 PM
1

Is it a woman's fault that men have such low standards that any woman can partake in hook up culture pretty easily? Is it a woman's fault that they only want to have sex with men that they are attracted to? Men are not out giving pity sex they're doing what they want. So are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:04 PM
1

I'm not talking about hookup culture, just having any other partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:59 PM
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I'm not making an equivalent scenario, that's not the topic. Fukboi women get with fukboi men and they incentivize each other. Some shitty men and women lie and manipulate to get what they want, they are trashy. Most people just want to find someone compatible who will treat them well. You just seem to be bitter at (only) women for having sex with guys that (you think) dont deserve it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:56 AM
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Because you're complaining about women having sex with men that aren't you and blaming us for their behavior. You're also ignoring that women can be fukbois themselves and be just as happy to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:46 AM
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I'm starting to think that men just don't like it when we have sex without them specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:43 PM
7

Homeless men are seen as a potential threat, not weak. Their chances are higher for mental illness, drug use, criminal history, and anti-social behavior. Philosophically, these are the human beings who deserve more help and resources than others, not less, but people tend to abandon philosophy when they are face to face with something that scares them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:17 PM
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Not any who would immediately nuke a relationship over a photo of a hot ex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:36 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:53 PM
5

Role playing in the comments is the cringiest thing I've seen on PPD except for all these guys saying they would break up over a picture of her ex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:48 PM
7

Yikes at these responses. I severely underestimated how insecure men can be
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:14 PM
6

He means white but doesn't want to sound racist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:41 AM
2

Then why complain at all about women using men for money when you're just as happy with an equally shallow relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:05 PM
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You are comparing sex to effort for men and money to effort for women but tipped the scale completely by saying he puts in no money and no effort. Would you be happy in a relationship where you got the sex you want and every other aspect of it was neglected and shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:53 PM
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Then why did you put in your hypothetical that he doesn't put effort into the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:30 PM
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If it helps I don't think it's a sign of her not taking you seriously as a partner or being ready to break up with you, since she isn't using you for sex. Maybe using you for other reasons though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:19 PM
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I would feel really insecure if he didn't have a good reason for it. I could only assume he didn't take me seriously as a partner and will break up with me at the first inconvenience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:05 PM
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I disagree that the only accomplishment a human can achieve is making offspring, but that's a conversation about subjective values so no, I won't engage in debate over it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:05 PM
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So following your logic, if either men or women don't fulfill the potential of making babies, they just become elderly and did nothing and left nothing behind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:52 PM
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So following your logic, since men cannot fulfil the potential of making babies, they just become elderly men that did nothing and left nothing behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:28 PM
3

Of course you wouldn't, because it's not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:04 PM
3

And would you call it rape to have to get a job and work in order to pay rent?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:47 PM
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I would not. Not when you are comparing it to literal rape like OP does so callously
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:03 PM
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That's not what I'm implying. I'm saying that your analogy is wrong because NO. Even when you pay for sex you don't then get to 'do whatever you want'. How did you get our stances reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:46 PM
10

Prostitutes get a job description up front too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:40 PM
9

It's not compelled. You're paid to do a job, if you don't do the job you don't get paid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:30 PM
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They are not being forced, they could choose to get a job somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:00 PM
1

He doesn't blame it on their mothers. He doesn't mention mothers at all but he does say Women wrap shit around their feet And Women are completely capable of oppressing themselves. They don't need help with that And you think he's not victim blaming literal children, and calling my reading comprehension the problem. Quit trolling me man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:02 PM
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Oh please, as if there was anything in this post except wishful thinking. At least your wishful comment is on-theme
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:52 PM
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I agree, I also think it is largely responsible for the mess of the dating landscape right now. Men and women are unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:31 PM
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How could you read that title and draw the conclusion that he's not saying it's an individual woman's fault for having the procedure done? Don't you think you're being a bit generous? Even if you genuinely believe your conclusion? That makes my comment all the more necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:56 PM
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Girl power Is not a movement, you're thinking of feminism. A large proportion of feminists absolutely oppose choosing to be a stay-at-home mom without a career "under the control" of a man. Choice feminism has only come up very recently. Comparatively
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:54 PM
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I used to be such a 'girl power!' kind of teenager. Now half of my friends are divorced before having children/never married and miserable/no longer a friend because they've become so toxic and angry I want nothing to do with them. And here I am where all I want is a traditional marriage! Never saw this coming, but hey I was a dumb teen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:45 AM
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He said 'own fault' implying the victim's. He's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:26 AM
4

Excellent approach. No sugar coating the reality, getting the important parts across, and setting your children up for success personally and emotionally. Good work dad 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:29 PM
4

Rpt definitely has bad apples, it may even be the majority. Hopefully everyone brushes up on their critical thinking skills no matter the pill, LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:43 PM
11

I'm convinced OP is just literally baiting rage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:36 PM
37

Foot binding had to happen when the foot was not yet fully grown, it was performed on underage girls exclusively. Even if it was done by mothers to their daughters it was never the victims 'fault'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:42 PM
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You're using 'red flag' wrong, but here goes: Earns minimum wage. Is currently unemployed I want to be a SAHM and these wouldn't provide the life I want Goes out every weekend Extremely extroverted Too social for me and I wouldn't want to hold him back from enjoying his life/I would get exhuasted Has a kid with another woman but still pays his way I want my own family, like it or not his kid would be a part of my family too in the big picture, and his ex will have influence (especially financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:49 PM
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Your media choices are trash TV for junk viewing. Ofc they are indulgent and unrealistic fantasies and the women who take them seriously have very hypocritical and twisted outlooks on relationships and men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:18 PM
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Your complaints are really out of touch, just the classic incel line but you aren't brave enough to just say "women deserve abuse for dating Chad instead of me"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:43 AM
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So you don't accept there are emotional and mental reasons someone would stay with an abuser even though they don't like the way they are treated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:34 AM
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It's odd to me you're targeting abuse victims, but you're not really saying anything direct. Just a vague complaint that they stayed with their abusers. People stay with abusers because of low self esteem, fear, because they don't trust themselves after gaslighting and grooming, because they are under their control, because of poverty, because kids are involved, because they don't think they can get or deserve anything better, because they came from abusive pasts and it seems normal or is better…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:02 AM
5

What are shades of omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:25 AM
2

What is your point of posting here? Just complaining that women stay with abusers? What conversation are you hoping this is going to spark besides victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:14 AM
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Yeah, when the argument is this obvious and baited you know the poster is full of it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:14 PM
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I don't think I would. I also don't think people on this sub are bothering to recommend escorts to those types
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:01 PM
1

Already landed him haha, thank you ♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:18 PM
1

That's what guys would tell me haha. It's not selfless either, it lets me pick places/activities I feel safe doing with a near stranger, and not leave him flailing trying to guess when the iron is hot vs too soon/too late so the pacing is under my control. Every time I did it I was told it was attractive/attention getting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:51 PM
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There isn't. And if that's the conversation you want you should have just asked "Ladies what do you think about splitting the bill on first dates?" When I was dating I made it clear we would split the bill beforehand. I also made an effort to suggest the place/activity when I knew I wanted to meet him because it would make a big positive impression and makes me stand out from the sea of passive women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:37 PM
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A man specifically saying he isn't going to pay less than a $5 bill at the point of the check getting to us is sending a clear message. If he had brought this up before meeting in person that's one thing, or even during the meal in a general sense of dating. But this is different I already believe in splitting the bill early in dating and he didn't ask or expect that of me. The way you've presented the scenario I would take it as more likely a neg than as a genuine belief about equality So yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:12 PM
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I think I've only seen escorts suggested to men who are: terrified of sex, neurotic about their virginity, or care only about sex and don't see women as equal human beings I think these are three valid reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:03 PM
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Of course there's a second date but I'm also pretty sure he's not very into me and I won't be getting my hopes up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:58 PM
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The women who do that generally are just as toxic in return. If you want that type go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:18 PM
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What I have learned most from this thread is that we need more public/free training on the heimlich maneuver. It is simple and can save lives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 03:49 PM
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Yeah definitely a him problem. And here we have an entire thread of men saying they would help someone in trouble regardless of gender, even in a sub with a high concentration of misogynists. I really love men in general, you guys are great
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:56 PM
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I appreciate this post. I just had a guy on a different thread telling me that because I would appreciate a man stopping to help me change a tire that I deserve to be infantilized and have decisions made for me. Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:46 PM
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In the first one I'm talking about my literal boyfriend in the other I'm talking about a stranger. I like it when my bf tries to get in my pants. You're being foolish
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 01:14 PM
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From men in general? No, I don't expect it or feel entitled to it and it would make me feel like he was trying to get in my pants if some dude rushed to open a door for me. A guy stopping because he sees me on the side of the road with a flat tire? Yes. Please and thank you. I'm not confident I could jack my car without it falling on me and I'm grateful he would assume I need help rather than leave me to it. I agree with your frustration in general though. We are at a stage where women don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:49 AM
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You can't imagine getting special treatment? Even from a romantic partner? I don't know what women you are talking about. Benevolent sexism is still sexism and therefore not equality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 01:45 AM
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I'm really sorry you feel this way. I do my best to make my man feel this way but one anecdote from one strange woman online isn't going to turn your opinion and I accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:12 PM
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I pay my fair share, I square our expenses when I plan the shopping and bills. When he picks up the check in public it is no more than a symbolic gesture, but I still like it. He physically maneuvers me to the safer side of the sidewalk and will not have it the other way, I find it to be very romantic and caring, even though the chance is incredibly small that something would happen, he insists. I didn't ask or expect it, and I appreciate him for it. You can hate us for it but I think this is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:07 PM
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Everyone likes special treatment. Hypocrites want it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:59 PM
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I'd have to hear more details to agree or disagree. For example, I really enjoy when my man opens doors for me, make sure that I walk on the inside half of the sidewalk away from traffic when he automatically picks up the bill when we go out and so on. But I don't like being infantilized. I have a head for money and he leaves it to me to balance my share of costs when I do bills and groceries, and plan out our savings and fun money. I like electronics and any digital or software issues. He leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:33 PM
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I really can't tell, it sounds like OP is saying in the context of the post that women LIKE sexism in general just don't be physically threatening. If that's the case I disagree mostly? Everyone likes to feel spoiled and safe and catered to, men as well, so I don't disagree with that but I think the average women doesn't like being infantalized Hard to tell what OP really means though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:41 PM
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Being charming IS a meaningful quality. Putting people at ease, inspiring confidence and respect, tact, situational awareness and sensitivity are all good and successful qualities. It's a sign of selflessness, intelligence, and patience Your post also just sounds pissy. I suspect someone told you you lack social skills and you're taking it out on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:11 PM
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Even in context your premise seems to be that women like sexism just not overt hostility
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:03 PM
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Did you know that holding racist beliefs is preferable to actually lynching minorities?!?? Seriously, what a silly conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:35 PM
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You don't need the word superficially
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 06:31 PM
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Because women see the actresses in porn as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:02 PM
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I think you've made some good points here but there is a big difference between a woman using a dildo and a woman using a dildo while watching a video of another man stroking himself, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:01 PM
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Id like to add that getting sex is already a smaller incentive to begin with for women than men, and the self improvement franchise for women is only tailored to increase our enjoyment of our own lives and not to attract or conform to men or family. It's completely unrelated to what messaging men are getting
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:27 AM
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How do you trick them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:12 PM
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Unfortunately from what I can tell domish or even switch women are way more rare than subish men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:06 PM
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Just a loving couple fighting over which one gets the leash lol. That's the ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:56 PM
6

Collar you say 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:46 PM
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Your comment has me rolling lol. Thank you for your honesty!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:45 PM
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A gentleman that can provide for me/our future family. I prefer calmer self-assured vibes and for him to pursue me romantically. Muscled forearms is a bonus. Edit: OP asked for ONE quality and so if forced I would reduce it to just being a gentleman. If I think your disrespectful by nature to me or others I lose interest before you have a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:24 PM
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"There is no correlation between mating success and attractiveness" ^ This is why no one is treating you seriously. You could have every study in the world at your fingertips and you would still lack the nuance and critical analysis to make use of it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:59 PM
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And how do you square that with high T features being attractive in general, or the entire spectrum of human desire and preference that is a defining feature of agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:51 PM
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None of these studies are speaking in absolutes. You are. You're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:47 PM
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There isn't one and when I pointed that out he threw a fit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:43 PM
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I didn't say they said the opposite, I said they failed to define or control for attractiveness and asked if you found something I missed. Clearly you just read titles and draw your own conclusions. Btw most of these studies just say that testosterone increases when you're about to get laid or get laid often, fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:41 PM
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Yes but the actual content of the study doesn't actually explain attractiveness in any way that I could find. Did YOU read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:06 PM
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That study describes what high testosterone indicators are "high strength, muscle mass especially in the upper body and arms and dominant facial features" But I couldn't find anything describing what "attractiveness" is how it is measured compared or controlled for in relation to testosterone indicators. All of the features they described as testosterone indicators clearly seem like attractiveness indicators themselves to me. Which just upholds the norm. Rule one, be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:01 PM
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If you don't submit a blood panel you can't date me. Sorry fellas, I'm trying to breed the next Mongolian army 💋
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:25 PM
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Women aren't criticising the men who are already sensitive and supportive. The criticism is for the men who are bullying the 'beta' men. Women spend a large amount of energy on trivial niceties and tedious bonding because they add up to a strong group identity/support/and trust in others of our gender. It's given us a great amount of power and safety. We want to encourage men to foster that same type of default 'brotherhood' for its vast benefits, but it's absolutely lost in translation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:52 PM
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You literally asked her opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:41 PM
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I disagree. The sure thing is a better bet when planning long term and in the case of relationships that means the man that you have a stable safe relationship with. Entertaining a better off man, while being taken, is just a way to be sure he would cheat on you if you commit to this new guy. A woman looking to upgrade was making short term plans from the beginning. She is probably a liar too to get what she wants but the default for women is the long game not the short game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:38 PM
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Right, but you already mentioned that if he doesn't make a minimum amount with a full-time job that he should be required to work overtime. The amount of money left over when a full-time wage isn't enough is going to be a pittance You're essentially asking men to work overtime essentially for free, what your suggesting is slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:36 AM
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What is your proposed minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:41 PM
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I hope he got a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:34 PM
3

This all makes sense on a personal level but It just doesn't translate to a practical level. You're taking a percentage of what the father makes, but if he doesn't make enough money then you increase that percentage? If I was faced with that I would also quit my job and move in with my parents rather than work overtime for below a livable wage for myself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:29 PM
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I agree with all your points, at least they make sense to me. Except the last one I agree on a moral ground but what are you going to do about someone choosing to just be a bum? There's no legal recourse force someone to get and hold a job
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:12 PM
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Men are a component of a woman's value in comparison to her friends, not the entire thing, and then it's only a man that you have committed to you, his loyalty is explicitly the valuable aspect. Staying single can be its own prestige among women now, if she Is high income and the girl boss type A woman who wants a man but just gets used is going to be low on the totem pole
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:42 PM
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Found out a friend was lying about weekly girls nights to cheat with a married man. All of us cut her off the day we found out It wasn't even controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:14 PM
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More is always better. Even if you don't have intentions with a guy that attention still feels nice I am not defending the selfish urge just pointing it out. I would be a hypocrite if I said I didn't have it too. Even if you don't exactly want the attention, it still feels offensive to see another woman being overly sexual and guys falling over themselves for it, The resentment is not rational but it is real
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:13 AM
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I think it comes down to jealousy. An overtly sexual flirty woman is going to get all of the male attention and energy. Women don't blame men for this because they aren't doing anything wrong just by being passive reactors to the situation. It's a lose-lose situation for any woman who isn't being slutty. You get overshadowed by this behavior which you do not want to participate in And see that behavior rewarded with the attention that you want. We can't compete because that behavior doesn't meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:29 PM
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I think the OP missed an important point here. That even hating a slut doesn't disqualify her from the bedroom most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:32 PM
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Just because you feel that way does not mean 'most' men feel that way. We all suffer from purity culture, it's grip is lighter than it's ever been but in the past few years is making a bit of a comeback The vitriol aimed at men is in overkill. Women are fighting hard to break the societal restraints put on us and men are casualties of that movement often. Women at large stopped rolling over at the slightest resistance and pandering to the comfort of others. Young men need to learn that too. Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:53 PM
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You have only seen terrible wing women then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:00 PM
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I was asking OP their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:17 AM
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Do you think that sex work should be legal/protected/destigmatized and is it related to your beliefs about sexless men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:12 PM
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Lol, sure it is! If it's in your heart then it's real!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:08 PM
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I'm not disputing that, but Im sure that they were happier to date men in their league than young women now are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:30 PM
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Lol. Meet the person washing them half way, that's all I'm saying. If she's happier she'll make you happier too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:05 PM
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That's clearly what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:02 PM
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These are solid points. Purity culture especially geared towards women has the same effect by essentially locking two people once they get together and leaving the dating market close to a 1:1 ratio, removing women's advantage in the dating market and causing competition for highest value men rather than sharing him without commitment Women learn to love the men they are with when they are not caught up with FOMO that OLD fosters (Aka responsive sexuality) There are problems with the 'old system…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:56 PM
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You nuked her! That being said, put your darn dishes in the sink when you're done without having to be reminded every stinking time!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:46 PM
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This post is pretty silly, none of those points are 'advice' and they are not the common responses to mens complaints either. It's just OP complaining about women being picky, again. Women have it easier in dating and part of the reason they have it easier is by being pickier by nature. Women are also ignorant about the realities of being a man because we are not men. That's not a flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:40 PM
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I don't prescribe to hookup culture and am only interested in sex that is serious/exclusive and that is only when I feel safe/want him. That being said I am more free with performing just oral. I want my partner to be happy and excited to see me, to feel good about himself, and to know I see him that way and do prioritize his pleasure. I am also proud of my ability so I am hoping it really drives him wild wanting the full experience. I still need to feel safe and like he has husband potential be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:16 PM
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Women respond sexually to men who take the lead and are on the dominant edge. This is as old as time and idk how my entire generation has fumbled this fact
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:57 PM
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You need to reframe rejection. You keep calling yourself a failure for it and that's not fair. You're doing your part of the process despite the sting of rejection, you're facing the possibility of it over and over again. That's not failure. the fault is coming from the women not meeting you halfway Remind yourself that these women do not even step up to the possibility of rejection and in that way you are doing them a favor and even flattering them with your proposal. That's not failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:36 PM
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Men wished they were loved the way they love and women wish they were loved in the way they love. It's really a tragic story overall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:15 PM
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It is, if one guy doesn't go for it, another will
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:53 PM
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They are safer physically and in their reputation, but that's it. Women have vastly more advantages in getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:18 PM
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U/shookumtree Is the one saying being short is an insurmountable obstacle, which I find offensive, all I've said is I don't want to spend my time with somebody bitter and hopeless who is going to blame my gender for all of their problems
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:10 PM
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I can help someone who is short, I can't help someone who hates women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:59 PM
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You've really nailed it here. Maybe he did have something worthwhile to add to a woman's life before, but if he did he failed to advertise it, or directly got in his own way by means of personality or availability. Now that he has something undeniably desirable (wealth/ stability) he is being pursued
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:41 PM
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I'm not one to hook up, but I will say my LTR turned out to be way more attractive than my situationship in the past. I have never valued looks highly, I think it's a fluke that I've ended up with somebody devastatingly handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:12 PM
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She would've totally smashed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:56 PM
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I didn't disagree that being shorter is more difficult, it is. It's just that the inferiority complex is a lot more unattractive than the height, I don't want to fight someone while also going out of my way to help them because they already decided they are a loser and get bitten for trying to hype them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:25 PM
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Anthony Hopkins
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 04:11 PM
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I agree that most women don't find most men attractive, and that's a big hurdle obviously, but interest is something that can be nurtured pretty quickly in other aspects. It's a skill to get a woman to warm to you so long as she gives you the time of day to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:25 PM
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You have forced me to acknowledge my feelings about Hannibal Lector and I don't like it 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:12 PM
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Haha, I'll take it as a compliment then Just know even if you haven't gotten a female friend to do this for you doesn't mean you don't deserve it. You do deserve it. I wish people looked out for each other better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:28 AM
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What? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:16 PM
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Repetition will help with that, but it's just not a healthy mindset to have, it's unsuccessful for him and honestly it is not flattering to be on the other side of it. I'm a human just like you are with flaws, and bodily functions, and opinions you probably don't agree with all the time. Personally, It's a turn off to be treated like the epitome of femininity from somebody that doesn't know the first thing about me. I know it has nothing to do with me, he's flirting with his own imagination and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:21 PM
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I mean, I guess not, I'm with a guy that is one step above my league in so many ways, but I didn't 'wait around' letting other possibilities slip by, i found him in OLD about 2 months into dating and became official after a couple weeks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:43 PM
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If he's striking out for no good reason in his approach, then next time we try different locales. If he's whining that he's not getting dates because of his height then I stop taking him out. I don't want to be around that energy and neither will anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:36 PM
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Yeah we can. So can other men, I put 'women' because the man in the OP is going after women. Untwist your underwear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:32 PM
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Self-Assurance is sexy, but women can smell from a mile off if it's genuine or not. I'm not sure that just flat out denying any setbacks is the best move if you have strong feelings about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:45 AM
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If that's what I observed, my advice to him would be to do it over and over and over again to get more comfortable with women, I'd also tell him he needs to take women off of a pedestal because they are nothing to be afraid of
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:53 AM
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Someone that put together, and assuming we are close friends since he's asking my advice, I'd take him out myself to local hot spots and do my best to be a wing woman. Either I can help him bridge the gap, or I can observe firsthand where he's going wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:19 AM
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I appreciate you, ♥️I have no idea where this guy is coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:08 AM
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I'm not asking you to rephrase it, you are accusing me of telling men to kill themselves?? What the hell is wrong with you and why are you lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:53 PM
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You're going to have to show me a link to that because I have no idea what the hell you're talking about and I find it quite offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:49 PM
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If somebody goes online and is telling men to kill themselves, they should be reported and de-platformed, It's not rage bait. It's hate speech. Why are you bringing it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:38 PM
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What the hell are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:15 PM
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I didn't include it because I am at a complete loss as to how a paternity test will have any bearing whatsoever on lab testing and assumed you were padding out your list
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:14 PM
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My point is that an ancestry test is not a paternity test and is done for different reasons, You don't do an ancestry test on a newborn because the results are meaningless to them. Obviously, if you swab a newborn and claim you're doing an ancestry test and not a paternity test, you should be laughed at. If you do a paternity test, you're going to hurt your partner's feelings. It's a simple consequence I don't disagree with anything in your second paragraph. My personal belief is that paternity …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:38 PM
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Except that unfaithfulness is 99.9% of the reason for the test and unfaithfulness IS far more likely and common than chimerism or babies going home with the wrong family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:51 PM
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You cannot own up to your own tone? Or the fact that your title doesn't match your post? Someone here is emotional and it's not the corporations. And rent going up because landlords are too indecisive in picking them best tenant is such a funny take, I'm sorry. I can't take you seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:32 PM
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If a woman feels like a mans intention is to test for infidelity Is she being unreasonable? There's a 99.9% chance that that is the only meaningful result of the test
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:25 PM
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All right now you're having a tantrum. Don't get mad at me because everyone's making fun of your post. It is economical to try and squeeze as much work out of the fewest amount of employees as possible. It's not an emotional decision because they want a better applicant? Where are you getting this wild idea That landlords are too picky to have tenants move in when it is rent that is skyrocketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:10 PM
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Op's point is that there is a .1% chance That a paternity test could find something that's not related to paternity, so therefore women cannot take the test as a sign of distrust? Even though 99.9% of the time it is an infidelity test? If it's 99.9% in infidelity test, then it is an infidelity test
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:02 PM
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A DNA test to explore ancestry is very different than a DNA test at birth, If you have 10-year-old kids and you want to do a test to see what part of the world your bloodline is from and your wife throws an absolute fit, then yeah, she's probably a dirty rotten cheater. If however, the moment your kid is born, you want to see if their DNA matches yours, then that is an accusation of possible infidelity. I still don't think that gives a woman a right to throw a fit, but hurt feelings are absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:59 PM
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A negative paternity test ALMOST CERTAINLY proves infidelity. Trying to claim it's not an infidelity test is silly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:54 PM
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I think that you completely don't understand landlords and corporations. Landlords are gouging prices because they want more money, companies are gouging prices outsourcing work, and creating a culture of need and planned obsolescence so that we buy buy buy. I don't think either of those entities are looking for a 'perfect fit' they are just wringing as much out of as many people as possible. I also think those arguments have no place on PPD they are economic forces. I just think it's hilariousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:52 PM
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You are blaming women for not being wise enough to recognize they don't have better options, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:39 PM
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Title = it's not men's or women's fault! It's the system! Body = women are the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:36 PM
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I like the new tag lol A cheek swab is a common way to test DNA/parentage I'm just pointing out that if your only concern is if you walk out of the hospital with the wrong baby you could test either parent for a DNA match. It's not good support for your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:29 PM
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Thank you, the trends definitely make a lot of sense in line with the ideologies. Its a lot simpler when you're not throwing a fit like the OP, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:26 PM
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It is absolutely a fidelity test, these fringe cases are inconsequential to the conversation. If it's because you are afraid of a hospital mix up why not swab the mother? If it's a non monogamous situation the conversation isn't applicable to the common debate. Chimerism is ree and why would you test for it? All that being said I will reiterate my belief men should have the right and no obstacle for testing, it should be standard practice even
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:18 PM
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That is very interesting, a rut that PPD falls into constantly is talking about absolutes and the data never points to that I just don't see why OP insists liberal men can't have muscles. But I won't bother engaging with him on those points because he is clearly just PO'd at this specific Tik Tok girl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:12 PM
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That is very interesting, a rut that PPD falls into constantly is talking about absolutes and the data never points to that I just don't see why OP insists liberal men can't have muscles. But I won't bother engaging with him on those points because he is clearly just PO'd at this specific Tik Tok girl
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:10 PM
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I think we do too. I really hope more men learn that they deserve better and put up with less BS. Women can survive being hurt and confused but a lot of men are not surviving being lonely and depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:05 PM
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Your liberal friends are both the most successful and least successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:53 PM
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You did it again. Every man can vet he just doesn't but he won't choose to be alone. Even men who seriously self improve don't necessarily have the self worth to go along with it and STILL take crappy women on when they can do better. Women genuinely complaining about 'no good men' are almost always single mothers trying to get whatever they can grab from men and I agree they are clueless to accountability, but they keep getting the attention and support they are asking for! It doesn't end well …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:31 PM
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Yeah that's not normal. Women get competitive and have a Pecking order but if a woman is being competitive with you you don't ask her for dating advice. Women also don't sabotage unless it gives them an advantage, like if she wants the same guy. It happens but it's not normal and it's a direct betrayal of sisterhood, not a result of it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:47 PM
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You fell for rage bait. Get off TikTok and honestly probably reddit too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:13 PM
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This post isn't really about women bonding and trusting each other/allowing ourselves to be molded by each other, 'Sisterhood'. It is actually only complaining about one thing, and that is a woman breaking up with a guy because her friends encouraged her too. OP feels it is cheating a guy out of a relationship You may be right, you may be wrong, depending on the details of the people involved but what I can tell you is that women are always going to defer to each other because we have strength i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:01 PM
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We'll just have to disagree then. Men want sex and porn isn't good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:31 PM
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You've answered your own question. Porn is not sexual validation. It's about as invalidating as you can get, men still want real sex and The prevalence of porn means they obsess about it more than ever. My guess is that you are particularly young and you do not see guys pursuing women to a high degree, I would argue that's a socialization/confidence problem, not a desire problem. I do not see a world where men are so satisfied with porn and singleness that they don't want girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:23 PM
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Extremely? Can you think of anything else that men want more than sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:14 PM
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So your OP should be complaining about single men getting shamed rather than this misdirect about vetting. Being single is not a red flag in itself but in context. For example; If you have strings of super short relationships, if it's been over ~5 years, if you're 25 and you've never had a relationship. The social currency is for women of equal calibre. If that means trashy and toxic then you get points with other trashy and toxic women but women who are more put together will see it as a red fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:47 PM
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Unrelated to the OP but black and red mixed just make dark red, you have to mix red with green to get brown
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:36 PM
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This sounds like you want advice about a specific instance but you generalized it so that we can't actually answer the question you have. We don't know why "a man" got that advice because we don't know where his relationship went wrong. I think the gist of your question is actually "how can men afford to be picky when they have so few options?" And the answer is not one you're going to like. The option isn't between the woman and another woman the option is between the woman and no one. Men cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:19 PM
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I mean, to a degree social media has done that with all social aspects so you're not wrong, but it was always this competitive intrapersonally with women. The difference now is the power imbalance between men and women. Now that we have so much more 'buying power' in the dating market the man you get is a greater reflection of your social standing than it's ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:55 PM
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Women are super hierarchical. Even if men became 70% more attractive in general, and good looks lost meaning, then yes, emphasis would just grow in areas like income, macho hobbies, and prowess in bed. And that's already happening just not in a sexual way. I would compare the drive for social validation among women to the drive for sexual validation for individual men, both in intensity and satisfaction. In essence we 'get off' comparatively on dominating the social circle with actual sexual rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:18 PM
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I would not frame this as "a weapon to sideline men". Women are not welding a 'weapon' or 'targeting' men, that's a victim complex talking, they are just making money and choosing a partner, it's not malicious. That being said, your overall point is valid. Women that don't need men to survive are way pickier now than they have ever been in American history, and that can be at their own detriment in the extreme cases. My only conclusion really is that in the end there are enough men and women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:10 PM
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Excellent points. And the women making three figures can always date down when they get desperate enough if they have no luck, but the benefit of wealth is that you get to make opportunities for yourself, I'm not worried for those women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:58 PM
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Yet another post where OP obstinately refuses to take anything anyone says into account no matter how many times we tell him his conclusions are ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:05 AM
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Red pill is not incompatible with enjoying flirting and growing closer with a potential partner. Your friend is just confused because you actually like women and our company. Many redpillers do, but many others are woman-hating scumbags. Redpill doesn't tell you what to feel about women, it just tells you what women generally respond to. If you use that to manipulate and take advantage at their expense, or if you use that to up your rizz game and have more fun with women that's up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:02 AM
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It's bizarre to claim that men don't care about women wearing heels, makeup, or styling their hair. Looking nice and put together is a basic aspect of attracting other people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:50 AM
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Or maybe you're incapable of admitting that you have life on easy mode in comparison to men and can't stand another woman saying otherwise 💁 It's not low self esteem to admit dating is fun but it is low self esteem to try and tear down a woman for going against the script ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:02 PM
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It's a dating app, not Facebook, validation comes from conversations, flirting, being taken out and treated well, not only the matches. Maybe that's only as far as you ever got though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:19 PM
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I cannot help an idiot to see the light even in a bright room because his eyes are closed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:47 AM
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You're an idiot. There is a difference in sex between a woman putting in effort and a woman not putting in effort. Even a virgin should be able to understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 05:39 AM
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Lol. Your position is that women DONT like getting a bunch of attention and interest from men on apps designed to get you attention and dates? You're reeeeally going with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:38 AM
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I made some assumptions about your meaning since you didn't write a complete sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:19 PM
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It absolutely happens, rare as the case may be. But my point is that the father shouldn't have to lie about his motivations if that's not really what his concern is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:17 PM
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I mean yeah, that's gentler on the ego. Id rather live in a world where men don't have to walk on eggshells to get what should be a basic right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:55 PM
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That's what I got too!! 78003XD AMD CPU too. My monitor is way underpowered for my build but I'm waiting to upgrade until the new OLEDs come down a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:22 PM
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I'm just sorry it's rare ♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:48 PM
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Lol yeah ok, you've been arguing for a standardized paternity test this whole time, riiiiiight. At least you're big enough to admit good sense eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:24 PM
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It would anyways but this way he actually knows it's his kid, that's better
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:21 PM
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Just the only one on this subreddit that admits it. Women love opening the app and seeing 6 brand new hits, flirting, getting dates, and meeting new people. They act like it's SUCH A DRAG that men don't "stand out" 🙄 No, you just think they are there to entertain you and you absolutely suck at conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:19 PM
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We aren't testing women, we're testing men to establish their rights and responsibilities. Since they don't grow the child inside of them they have to have a swab to prove a genetic match to the child. Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:20 AM
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No, to establish rights and responsibilities to the child. Seems like something an advanced civilization would do standard imo Edit to respond to your edit about treating all men as rapists: Umm, no. Giving the government a comprehensive DNA database of all men is not the same thing as checking a box on a birth certificate to confirm the father as biological or not. Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:58 AM
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The appropriate response is 'fuck off' Side note I just built my first gaming pc and it's high end, my partner and I have spent hours on it together ♥️🎮
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:56 AM
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I didn't say mandatory, I said standard, it would also be a medical record, not a government database. You don't have to store the genetic code either just test for a match and then confirm the man as the biological father or not on the birth certificate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:52 AM
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This is not for public records, just medical records I meant like that if the man is found not to be the father and then he wants a divorce. Legal consequences to the testing. Sorry if that wasn't obvious And I'm talking about a hypothetical where the mother is adamant about not getting the kid tested...well, there's not many reasons for that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:50 AM
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Not accusing at all, just accounting. The system as it is now where you have to opt-IN to get tested is an accusation. If it's standard practice then it's just standard practice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:41 AM
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No, it's a shit test. "I won't let you have this thing you want to feel secure until you jump through a hoop for me and earn it!" That's not romantic love, that's pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:28 AM
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The grounds is to verify parentage, it only seems bizarre to you because it's not standard yet, but if it were standard it wouldn't cause a second thought, seems clerical more than anything else. If legal consequences need to happen then they can continue that outside the hospital If parents want to waive the test then let them, I said it should be standard, not forced. And pushing to get it waived is a confession as much as anything so it's still serving the purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:19 AM
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If you need some sort of undefined feat of service from your husband to make him earn the right to know the child he's raising belongs to him then you have no actual empathy for your man, you are just keeping a tally and dictating the score. Don't talk bout healthy loving relationships when you disagree with doing something loving for him until you get your pound of flesh from him first, yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:07 AM
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Yep, I uh, literally just called it a fragile ego. You're literally telling her that you planned an entire future with her but still think she may have cheated on you. That's going to hurt no matter how logical it is to be sure of parentage. I do think you're wrong comparing it to a safety issue though,. It is important but it's not safety
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:25 AM
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If that's all you're talking about, you don't have to hide it from guys and you know that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:45 AM
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Well If you're spouting misandry to your gal pals, and then fawning over men when they are around, you're a hypocrite and a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:38 AM
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It doesn't take paranoia or even distrust, it's a reasonable box to check That a kid is yours The mother gets the benefit of certainty, so should the Father as an equal playing field If you want monthly STD testing then you should agree to it in return
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:36 AM
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Super reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:33 AM
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It's just a fragile ego. That's literally it. There's nothing more complicated than we don't like the implication that we have been disloyal especially surrounding such a vulnerable time as pregnancy and labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:20 AM
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If he's the father there's nothing to worry about. Let him feel secure and handle the hit to your ego
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:18 AM
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I do! I'm lucky in that I managed to keep a large group of friends throughout the pandemic so it wasn't a surprise that some grew apart but I still have 4 good girl friends 3 of them are partnered and they get along, two good single male friends as well in the group ♥️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:08 AM
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Standard paternity tests would be a great idea, if it became standard then no woman can get her feelings hurt and men are protected from a lifetime of being leached off of Until it's standard it's going to damage relationships though, It is a straight up message that you suspect your wife of cheating This should be a medical movement, not a social one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:59 PM
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To address just your second scenario, your last paragraph, it is ridiculous to expect some pandering proof of loyalty, if the paternity test shows he is the father than the rest of your life is going to be a show of support and commitment, because that's his child
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:56 PM
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Your article of how often football causes concussions is not relevant to this conversation 😂 high school football isn't going to cause a man to hit his wife out of the blue two decades later, brain damage isn't a time bomb. Your new question is far more relevant. Claiming that men pretend to be good until they suddenly flip one day and become abusive right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:48 PM
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It's not your place to monitor people's bedrooms and budgets. Abuse is illegal and immoral, no one is arguing against that. Lying and stealing from your family is just not a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:43 PM
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I have cut off 3 friends since graduating high school. One was cheating on her husband while he stayed home with their toddler lying about having a girl's night with us. One grew incredibly toxic, among other things she started dating an absolute pushover of a guy that she had pay for everything for her and often belittled in front of us. Some of it was earned but even when it was earned she was way too harsh. None of us put up with it but she'd just switch gears, laugh it off, have HIM tell us …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:34 PM
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Or the extra money is budgeted however they agree, it's their business not yours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:11 PM
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This is awesome advice, I feel really bad for dudes and how hard it is to find somebody. When I decided I wanted a relationship I got on a dating app got dozens of matches and whittled through them over the course of 3 months to find someone I can see myself with forever. It was incredibly easy, fun, validating, and in the end I got what I truly wanted and hoped for. The worst of it was a few nasty men who were obviously lying about their intentions or who wanted sexual favors immediately. It di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:09 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:45 PM
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I think that's up to the couple to decide and budget. It would not make him a piece of shit If he doesn't make enough money for her to have an extraneous allowance while also supporting a family on his single income
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:44 PM
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Because I'm newbie or because I don't think men are monsters by default? Lol still learning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:39 PM
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You are either fantasizing or dealing with some level of OCD thinking the common man is some brain damaged degenerate waiting to hurt their girlfriends and wives. I guarantee you are not making plans against much more likely eventualities than your husband getting a traumatic brain injury and deciding that you are his enemy Everyone should have a savings fund for emergencies, there is no reason to have one secret from your spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:37 PM
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It is absolutely uncommon, both a head injury and exponentially a head injury severe enough to cause behavioral changes. How many men do you know who hit their head and started abusing their wives? Why blame it on this obscure possibility instead of just admitting you don't trust men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:25 PM
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If it is her own money, That's one thing. But the premise is that she needs the fund because she doesn't have a reliable way to support herself. So for example, if she's a stay-at-home mom and skimming off the money her husband gives her for groceries, then yes she is stealing from her family
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:12 PM
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If the woman is slack during sex please stop 😂 either she's dead or not worth it I don't think anybody will argue that men necessarily are doing more physical exertion during sex when it comes to thrusting, but thinking that normal sex entails a woman just laying there is a yikes. Meeting his motions is effort, letting him tangle you up like a pretzel is effort, taking him in uncomfortable places and positions is effort, looking attractive while doing all of these things is effort, dirty talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:02 PM
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Thank you for the translation, this writing style is a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:06 PM
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I actually think the fund is worse. it is also a show of distrust, with the additional sin of stealing from your family If that is how she made the fund. You also only have her word that it is an escape fund, there is a chance That she is simply making it easier for her to leave him/ have an affair, or any amount of illicit intentions with a secret reservoir of cash. A paternity test is just verification
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:39 PM
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I think stealing money from your family is bad, the fact that the intention is to make it easier to leave her husband is worse. If you're unhappy or unsafe, make the changes now that you need to make. Asking for paternity testing is absolutely a show of distrust, I do believe it is 100% a man's right but it's also fair that the consequence is that it damages your relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:32 PM
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No lol, I'm not open to discussing psychosis. Fantasizing in your head does not involve another person, you're doing it yourself. Watching videos that another person has produced of themself doing sexual acts does involve another person. They have created content that you are consuming
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:29 PM
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But he's not interacting with her at all! How can you call it being attracted to his stepdaughter? It's just a video and piece of cloth!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:41 PM
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A wet dream isn't involving another person. Watching another person masturbate on video is involving another person
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:55 PM
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So you're fine with him jerking off to your daughters OF, how about with her panties?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:53 PM
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You're wrong of course but how can you argue that watching videos of someone doing sexual things ISN'T interacting with another person? If he finds your daughters OF and jerks off to it, it's perfectly fine because it's just video, he's not interacting with anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:42 PM
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He doesn't live with you or hate women. Read the prompt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:37 PM
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Why are you interested in his cast offs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:37 PM
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It's rude to take things from people with no intention of doing something in return. That something does not mean sex by default , it means anything that benefits the other person. Humans are a social and cooperative species for most of us this is a natural instinct and people who don't have this instinct are rightfully seen as entitled or users
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:05 PM
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No examples huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:33 PM
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Give actual examples of high effort please, yours seem like self sabotage not investment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 03:48 PM
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Hold on, this whole post has been about what it takes for a man to give away all of his money, and leave his life behind? That's what high effort means to you? You don't even describe what happens after he is with her and has no money and no job?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:41 AM
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You're leaving out the fact that 'female' is a descriptor for a human (eg, my female friend) and is a noun for an animal (eg, see how the female raises her cubs) Using female in a non-scientific context is purposely dehumanizing. It doesn't take a bad experience to find "men and females" language offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:06 AM
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Planning prepping and implementing multi day trips, all she has to do is pack her own clothes and get in a car. Maintaining their property by hand, always filling up her car with gas, daily words of affection and small treats whenever he goes to the store, paying for her self care/beauty appointments, flowers, occasional jewelry and larger gifts. So on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:58 AM
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And do you believe love is a feeling, or actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:54 AM
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And you think men are capable of a form of romantic love but women aren't capable of any form of romantic love?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:48 AM
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Do you think Love is real or not? Your answers are inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:26 AM
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Oh no, you're absolutely wrong, and I say that respectfully. I can think of four relationships I know personally of an older/ overweight/low looks woman being with a man that worships her. One pair were married after high school. Two pairs the man is also not much of a looker himself. One pair is still new but the guy is quite young and handsome. That's not including relationships where the woman is past the age of fertility but is objectively beautiful, where they are treated well - doted on by…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:23 PM
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Making sure you're not isolated is important for your mental health and your ability to be a good mother, that is the only thing on this list that is necessary. Everything else is a way to live in fear and sabotage your relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:17 PM
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Well, my anecdotal experience does not outweigh a scientific study, so I have to go with that, I wonder if maybe it's just a definition issue though since even when I really appreciate a man's features it's not completely distinct from sexual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:05 PM
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Eh, my guess is they are happy to say that because it gives them more power and puts men down. I can't tell you how many friends groups I've been in that have ranked guys on hotness, from classmates, to family members to teachers, just for the fun of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:33 PM
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That's accurate to a degree I think, but there are plenty of stunning men who want real relationships. Or maybe I just appreciate male attractiveness more broadly than others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:28 PM
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If a woman doesn't have fertility and beauty she is going to have a harder time dating, of course. Is that all you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:02 PM
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We don't select for 'less attractive' we select for emotional intelligence and stability, sure. Just pointing out the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:00 PM
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Actually I just realized your actual question is "why is it so easy for women to walk away from me" Maybe you are coming on quickly and clingy, maybe they are picking up on red flags you're not aware of. If I were you I would reach out to these women and ask for some honest feedback with no judgment or indignation. Just thank them and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:53 PM
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So? Very few men are in that bracket and you're not asking about men. You asked why women can walk away even after sex. The answer is that there are plenty of opportunities to 'roll the dice' for a much larger proportion of women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:47 PM
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Check out r/Redpillwives :), though I'm pretty new to it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:26 PM
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But do you agree there is an imbalance and how easy it is for a female to find a new partner rather than a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:55 PM
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It's easier for women to walk away because we know there are other options. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:19 PM
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If she won't, I will. Women always believe we are right. You can only work on your flaws when you admit you have them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:18 PM
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This is pretty silly. My partner has a higher libido than I do, it makes us both happier for him to be free to enjoy himself privately and the less pressure on me makes me more able/eager to go above and beyond for him. On the other hand with my lower libido it would be detrimental for me to focus my energy on sources other than him because that would take away from our relationship. I respect that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:03 PM
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I went over for dinner last night and we essentially did exactly what you suggested though I didn't write anything down. He made some things clear, like if I move in and eventually marry he's expecting me to be a stay at home mother when we start having children, which I'm not against but feels different now that it's being dictated to me and he wants more children/stay home with them more years than I thought. Actually most of the conversation can be summed up that way, he doesn't want anything…
/r/RedPillWives21/08/24 03:00 PM
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Thank you very much for the thorough response!! I've definitely come across the anger stage group and it is extremely discomforting. Youve definitely made me feel more sane again, and I appreciate the homework <3
/r/RedPillWives20/08/24 03:54 AM
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Thank you for the positivity <3 usually he is my safe place so I think that's why I feel so spun haha
/r/RedPillWives20/08/24 03:35 AM
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