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| 1 | Is the use of makeup deceptive?I don't know about "deceptive." Because they kind of HAVE to wear it. If I put a gun to your head and made you do a magic trick, the act would still be deceptive even if you were forced to do it. Deception does not have to be some morally reprehensible act. Sounds like you are stuck in a moral block where "deceptive" always has to equal some unjustified unethical act. We clap for magicians who deceive us. Same with actors and actresses who play a role really well. It's entertaining. So are human… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZbvfyfp-o I see fat girls like John Cena does. I'll have fun and it can be a really enjoyable time but our lifestyles don't match so it doesn't really extend beyond that. It of course depends on how fat, really. There is a limit, but sex can be many things. Fun, funny, intimate, serious, unserious, or even bad. Like a game of golf, it doesn't always have to be a PGA tour win to be enjoyable (sex at the highest level with a 10). This is real sexual liberation whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:36 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThere's plenty of c0pe and seethe as to why that is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 06:39 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah they are being denounced by dems for sure and that's a good thing. The largest socialist party in America losing moral authority is a good thing. Doesn't really matter if you don't know anyone who is a card carrying member. The damage is done to the largest socialist org in america. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 06:26 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think that's fair but I still consider them MLs because they are effectively single party authoritarian socialists. I think it's splitting hairs on what "new ideas" they work into the framework when the foundation is so largely the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:59 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadRevolutions will be bloody, are you against all revolutions? "Revolutionary terror" per Marx is different than "revolution." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_terror Maybe you should read it again? And like I said capitalism has tortured and killed to spread their political system as well. Not sure what you mean by this and it's irrelevant anyway as I see no capitalists justifying the rape of anti-capitalists so the analogy is moot. Marxism has the problem of justifying terror. There i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:58 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe DSA (largest socialist party in America) did not denounce Hamas. In fact, the DSA are being denounced by US congressional dems for promoting a Hamas rally: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/aoc-pro-palestine-nyc-rally-00120684 The New York City chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America is facing a political firestorm after the organization promoted a pro-Palestine rally in the wake of Hamas militants’ attacks on Israeli communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:49 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIts pretty damn rare to meet an actual M-Ler on reddit. Most (all) tankies are MLs. And it's pretty common to see them actually. MLs certainly do believe in revolutionary terror. Not sure what you personally think Marx meant by "revolutionary terror" but Marx was at least smart enough to understand that a very flawed underclass would engage in political violence in a revolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:46 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMarx proposed was much closer to anarcho-communism. Not sure what you are trying to say. Marx was pretty clear in that revolutionary terror was justified, even necessary and the torture of the ruling class was a perfectly acceptable means to an end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:43 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadcapitalism had done so as well. It Liberalism or "capitalism?" Who? Most people who support liberalism are not like that lol...liberalism is not a political ideology that justifies rape to achieve their goals. Your comment does not even make sense. Maybe imperialism or colonialism or mercantilism but not liberal capitalism aka "capitalism" a la adam smith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:30 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAt least they are intellectually consistent. Most are marxist-leninists who have no issue using torture and rape as means to socialist ends. Marx does not believe that political violence and torture are immoral or moral. Marx ultimately values the social and political systems he proposed. He doesn't value the individual or their rights and if those political systems are achieved through violence then it is good. If not, then it is bad. It's ultimately just funny seeing feminist subs justify rape… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 05:04 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLeftist feminist subs are wild right now. Raping and torturing Jewish women is justified but don't you dare date a girl a few years younger than yourself! lmao shit is fucking wild to read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:56 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableWhat makes you think I am incapable of being attracted to a prostitute? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 10:34 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableYou are just playing semantics. I am attracted to them. 'I am attracted to this woman I am dating but I learned she is a prostitute on the side.' In such a scenario, I am still attracted to this person. The conflict arises because I am attracted to her and yet we are seemingly incompatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:16 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableWhat? I am attracted to many prostitutes or maybe women who only speak Russian or another foreign language? There are many reasons I would not date someone I am attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:14 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableRead the entire comment next time I did this probably unfairly to some girls in HS. Would start dating them and almost immediately broke up with them. It's not that I lose attraction to them but that I preferred the initial dating pursuit more enjoyable than actually dating and the obligations that came with that. I also cared too much about what other people thought. So there were many instances where this happened and it had nothin to do with attraction levels. They were all pretty good lookin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:10 PM |
| – | Men lose at least a percentage of their attraction when the woman they fancy becomes availableI think people, not just men, get an ego boost from gaining the favor of someone taken or not immediately interested or playing hard to get or in some way on the fence... and then reciprocating ruins that high you get from the chase. That does not prove "Men say they want a nice, sweet, loyal girl. " is wrong.... it merely can prove that people can be a little egotistical, especially at bars and clubs. this man loses at least a percentage of his attraction to her. I did this probably unfairly to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: how would you go about dating if you were a women?Probably act like how women date today. Fuck around with hot unstable relationships until I adjusted my standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:23 PM |
| 3 | What would/will you do to help your future son in the dating market?I think any kind of combat sport helps in addition to exercise too. Wrestling, BJJ, or the like. Young boys should know how to use their body and experience losing a fight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 11:47 AM |
| 10 | Even with all government and social support and gender quotas, Western Women are way more likely to be poor than menThe pink tax .... We do not find evidence of a systematic pink tax: women's products are more expensive in some categories (e.g., deodorant) but less expensive in others (e.g., razors). https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/public_events/1588356/mosharybhatiatuchman_updated2.pdf The FTC researched this and found no evidence. Only women could demand pink razors with a fragrance and then complain that it costs more than plain male razors lol Like yeah, no shit it does haha and then you go a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:17 PM |
| 2 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…Men aren’t praised for being promiscuous because it’s challenging. Men here are doing exactly that? Also doing something easy isn’t necessarily shameful so it still doesn’t justify it. Again, mere indifference at the easy action vs praise at the challenging action is "shaming." There does not have to be explicit shaming for there to a social class difference as one group will be praised while the other will not be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 04:17 PM |
| 3 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…Sure it’s feasible. I'm not sure you understand. Sex would be better we were all held to the same standard in either direction. This would only make sense if humans held same amount of pride for doing something challenging vs doing something easy. I really don't think it's feasible for humans to treat all actions the same without regard for challenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:09 PM |
| 2 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…To be fair also to them, I don't think they are unique in this tendency. I find a lot of blue pill or even left wing people have these sorts of opinions without thinking about the consequences of what is being spoken and without taking them to their logical conclusion. Much like Marxism and the idea that 'everyone should be valued equal' reminds me of your opinion that nobody should be valued differently based on sexuality - or in other words everyone should be valued the same - or not valued at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 02:09 AM |
| 1 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…lmao no ... Even in Sweden people feel prideful if they take home someone hot (a value judgement) or shameful if they got too drunk and slept with someone gross (a value judgement). You can't really have sexual attraction towards sexual beings without there being value judgements on their sexuality. Or else you would just have sex with everyone and be indiscriminate. Humans and like most mammals make value judgements about sexuality because they are mammals and mammals are discriminatory about w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…Same is true in reverse. Explain? Horseshit. You’re describing conservative values, not biology. I don't think it's conservative values that women feel vulnerable with sex or have a disgust reaction to the idea of sex with strangers or gross men. It's a pretty intimate and vulnerable act. I really don't think it's possible to get all women to be free use and find no inherent intimacy and value judgements surrounding the act. Yeah, because it would be bad, unsatisfying sex. I mean yeah, that's th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 09:16 PM |
| 11 | The real reason men laud “players” and shame sluts is…It just has no bearing on their value or merit as a person. Not really when it comes to sex because having women attracted to you implies traits that you are socially attractive. And as humans are social like other primates, this gives merit to you as a person. To argue otherwise, you would have to state that people do not choose partners based on value or merit or that being socially accepted is not valuable to humans. Obviously, not all sex is valued and treated the same though. The difference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 07:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thingSo now the strategy average men used to employ, push pull, not too much texting and not too much availability no longer works. Women are not drawn by it anymore. It's less about women being drawn to being ignored itself and more about showing that you are a busy man with things to do outside of chasing her. "I have a cruiser sailing class in Annapolis that weekend" and not texting too much after that or simply posting such adventures on your insta is more attractive than texting her all weekend … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 03:45 PM |
| 0 | If you were to move in with a guy that makes significantly more than you, would you be okay with splitting household expenses roughly 50/50?There are a ton of men like your bro indeed. It comes down to communication and what the standard of living wants to be for the couple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 03:00 PM |
| -1 | Beggars can’t be choosersIt’s quite clear that men want their cake and eat it too, What do you think this means and how does it relate to your OP? Men want to retain possession of women and eat them? How is "eating" analogous to anything you wrote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 02:04 PM |
| 14 | If you were to move in with a guy that makes significantly more than you, would you be okay with splitting household expenses roughly 50/50?I’ve changed my mind on this too. The partner making significantly more typically wants a higher standard of living that comes with that salary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 11:48 AM |
| – | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityEvidence for the latter is how they try to push women into STEM The "pushers" frame their efforts by not seeing math as "masculine" even though you could strongly argue it is. If you want to talk about the modern workforce I think my point is stronger that we have gone to many lengths to promote and include feminine strengths. As you frame it, I think it's a much stronger argument for the work life but when it comes to pop culture, what you wrote does not attempt to argue that we have discarded … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 12:18 AM |
| – | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityFor sure, like I said you might have a different experience in more rural areas and lots of those cities require blue collar labor but a majority our work force is classified as professionals. Anyway, this is pretty tangential to the primary point of mainstream culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 12:07 AM |
| 5 | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityIt is estimated that 83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas, up from 64% in 1950. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 05:42 PM |
| 9 | We often talk about how modern culture discards masculinity, but we hardly touch on how it discards femininityI disagree that we discard femininity in "modern culture" when "pop culture" is basically hyperbolic femininity. Mainstream culture IS femininity...so I don't even know how would we even "discard" it. To claim that mainstream pop culture trashes femininity? I feel like we live on different planets than anyone who claims this. It seems like a willful ignorance or something someone would only say if they were deeply insecure about femininity, had an inferiority complex and injected themselves with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 03:45 PM |
| 5 | CMV : If you’re the guy she had to lower her “unrealistic” standards for the you’re forever on thin iceDepends on how she does it I think. Does she resent her relegation to a more realistic league or does she have some kind of come to jesus moment and/or naturally mature out of her unrealistic standards? I dated a girl in high school who legit thought she would marry the lead singer of fall out boy. She seems happily married now despite lowering her standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 12:53 PM |
| 3 | As a woman why should I get married?My wife and I both work in lucrative fields. Cleaning is never an issue because we hire cleaners. Who cares about cleaning lol If you make good money, your time becomes extremely valuable. Why would you ever spend your weekend deep cleaning your home when you can fly to Aspen or the Keys? Makes no sense to sacrifice potential quality of life by scrubbing your shower tiles on a Saturday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 12:49 PM |
| 1 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?Firstly, you’re on a debate sub lol you’re going to find people with varying opinions. Secondly, RP acknowledges that AFBB is the most logical course of action. It makes no moral argument against it. Some manosphere participants like tradcons and incels do though, however. And for the record I disagree with anyone who says it's not "fine." And no one in this comment chain has made that claim so I don't even know who you are talking to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/23 11:18 AM |
| 1 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?Where did he say that it is "not fine" for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 06:27 PM |
| 3 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?To be a "hypocrite", he would have to accuse her of being immoral as if something is wrong with AFBB.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: What do you actually consider to be sufficient evidence of r*pe and SA?The way these women frame the 2-8% stat is so incredibly elementary. The irony still is that media accusations (of the Brand sort) being discussed above are not even included in the stats cited above. The 2-8% stat could not realistically count all the false media accusations. I could create a twitter bot and accuse everyone in the world of rape and easily make that 2-8% number 99.9%. Jokes aside, media accusations do matter and using a stat that excludes media accusations when speaking about th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: What do you actually consider to be sufficient evidence of r*pe and SA?Between 2-8% of rape accusations are false This is not true and does not account for social media, news, and college accusations or any non-criminal accusations like the one being discussed here. In fact, it's probably impossible to quantify how many false accusations there are because social media. You could write a twitter bot that accuses every human on earth of rape and easily make 99.99% of accusations false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 04:12 PM |
| 0 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…It’s not like I’m crying over it but I sympathize with people who make a bad decision. The world was her oyster and she decided to get stuffed and loaded up with cum by a pop star instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Do you feel that joining the pillsphere community has made a positive change in your life?Idk why you keep saying this. It’s not uncommon at all for doctors to marry nurses. Sure, it’s not the majority of cases, but you are waaaaaay too far in the other direction with claiming it virtually does not exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you feel that joining the pillsphere community has made a positive change in your life?Nobody is saying these men marry no-job women lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 08:42 PM |
| -1 | Do you feel that joining the pillsphere community has made a positive change in your life?Nobody is saying those two professions are comparable. But either one marrying a surgeon is both hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 08:41 PM |
| -1 | Do you feel that joining the pillsphere community has made a positive change in your life?My god you are silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 08:31 PM |
| 0 | Do you feel that joining the pillsphere community has made a positive change in your life?A man who is a top surgeon will NEVER marry a barista. Male surgeons marry nurses all the time tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 08:12 PM |
| 5 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…You can't name a single worse actor with a longer career? She could've been a standard working actor for sure if she segued her fame directly after GOT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 04:09 PM |
| 3 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…That all being said, I think she could have a relatively successful acting career. She is hot enough and plenty of even worse and uglier actors have had wildly successful careers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 03:58 PM |
| 4 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…Whether or not there is evidence for this is entirely besides the point. That is how she perceived herself and her opportunity which is all that really matters to breed resentment and ultimately divorce. You are essentially calling her delusional in thinking she could be some sex appeal actress but her delusions of her career potential are entirely beside the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 03:44 PM |
| 1 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…Her career prospects aren't what they used to be because she has very little acting talent. True but she is X years older now. She had sex appeal, for better or worse, fresh off the set and that is worth something or was worth something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 02:27 PM |
| 21 | What to make of the Joe Jonas-Sophie Turner divorce…From my limited understanding given to me by my SO, she regrets marrying young, having kids and missing out on career opportunity. Hollywood is extremely network-centric. You basically have to go out during the week and weekends whenever you are not auditioning or working on a project and network with industry people. It's essentially not an option to skip this and having kids really limits this which is why famous actors hire full time nannies. I could see why a young actress coming off a hugel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/23 02:21 PM |
| 6 | CMV : I believe as a man you have two options. Accept and prepare for a life alone or go all in on raising your SMVYou can accept pretty bottom of the barrel women or become a passport bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 05:44 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateRetirees will have to move to indemand areas if they want medical care. I mean it already has happened and is continuing to happen. You can buy a cheap house in Detroit right now. I'm assuming you mean certain housing markets and prices though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 03:09 AM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateNot sure what you are trying to say here. The least educated Americans and Europeans have the most children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 10:55 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateProbably not honestly, as people continue to move to high demand cities. You can get cheap real estate in many ghost cities today even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 09:06 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateIts current governments too not just past governments. You are simply going to see massive taxes on single people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 09:05 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateNazi Germany and USSR did it, and Germany is currently doing it. I don't agree with it either, but I think governments are still going to try it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 07:21 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateIt literally just says there are pros and cons to increasing the fertility rates but overall it's a pro because more women and children are likely to survive with education and economic opportunities. Making it more efficient. Yes? Nobody is arguing to ban female education or income lol society is better when you boost the middle class regardless of gender. Yes? Obviously the middle class should be boosted. That however in itself will not increase fertility. There is literally no data to suggest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:14 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility#:~:text=Across%20countries%2C%20there%20is%20a,to%20a%20variety%20of%20problems. Higher wages are, again, correlated to fewer kids, not more. It is proven that a strong negative correlation exists between household income and fertility. Fertility declines have been seen during economic recessions, such as the great depression. This phenomenon is seen as a result of pregnancy postponement, especially of first births. However, this effect can be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:08 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateI'm just pointing out that any time we see population booms throughout history it's do to many if not all of the following reasons: This is massive historical revisionism. The populations booms of Egypt and Iraq followed none of this. Increased education standards and social services are correlated with lower fertility, not higher. The poor, uneducated and unhealthy have the most children throughout the entire world. Researchers have observed women's access to education in order to determine whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:06 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateYou're the one who said that nobody was making that money.... Idk what you are talking about and why are you are assuming what I believe in? And no unions are not socialist lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 06:02 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hatePeople have been telling Japan to get their demographics under control for years warning that the future is dim with such demos. There is really only so much you can do if you have a country with 100 people and 90 of them are retirees. At a certain point, it's not some conspiracy, it's just math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 05:21 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hatehttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:47 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateYou can't compare post WW2 societal cultural feelings to now. There is no going back to an era when the entire industrial world was destroyed except America. To recreate a baby boomer mindset and economy, you would literally have to carpet bomb the entire industrial world except America, because that is what literally created that mindset. Educated, wealthy women have fewer children. It's not that they can't afford childcare. If you look at which countries have high birthrates, there is no obvio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:46 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateWe should treat mothers better and there will be more positive impacts on the population size. Again, there is NO data to suggest this. The countries increasing welfare for mothers are seeing further declines in the birthrate. There is literally no data to suggest higher welfare overrides the fact that educated and wealthy urban women have less children. People with post secondary educations are making the same as a mail carrier in the 1980's did. UPS drivers can make $170K. When you make kids a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:42 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateThere is no maybe... it's either government pressure to get their demo collapse under control or just collapse silently and the CCP is not going silently into the night. People here act like this is some sort of silly red pill conspiracy, but governments are absolutely panicking and scrambling to address the issue before it's way too late. It's probably already too late for China, Russia and some European nations. Putin’s last gamble here is largely because he is the leader of a dying nation in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:30 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateNone of what you said makes sense when the poorest least educated and unhealthiest women tend to have the most children. The poorest and most unhealthy women still have the most babies. And the countries implementing the best healthcare and leave policies still see declining birth rates below replacement. The data is just not on your side about this. You are seeing the results of female education and moving into urban areas, despite more generous healthcare or parental leave policies. It’s just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:17 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateIf you live in a country with collapsing demographics, you will see massive declines in quality of life. Entire ghost cities. Massive austerity and cuts to welfare. Declining GDP. etc.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 04:13 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateChild tax credits have appeared to work in the US. China is going to have to try harder, and probably will. Soon they will make life basically unlivable if single and childless. That or accept African immigrants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:58 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateSocialism is when the government provides subsidies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:56 PM |
| – | How to use child subsidies to end the fertility crisis AND smash the gender roles people hateDirect child subsidies incentivize unstable households. Instead, what you need to do is incentive stable households and children. So you extend tax credits to married couples with kids - that way it incentives people with income. You do this via tax credits. This is the demo you really need to target specifically because they are the most likely to contribute stable taxpaying offspring. Either make it so economically attractive to marry and have kids and a household via tax credits, or tax singl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:51 PM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationWell firstly we are already starting with a better demographic pyramid. The US is simply not facing a cliff like China is. Secondly, we have attractive immigration prospects for low wage labor and for high wage educated labor. American can brain drain on the low and high end of labor demand basically in perpetuity. Countries like Egypt just cannot and will not. They will not have Africans take their high end jobs. Meanwhile, American corporations have no issue with hiring Indian CEOs. Thirdly, g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:17 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationAh interesting didn’t know that. Yeah I explain further but everyone effectively has a childlessness tax considering child free people pay taxes which goes to things like local schools. It’s just not broken out in our tax code. But anyway, I suspect more nations will explicitly implement a bachelors tax for behavioral economic reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 03:01 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationI’m not disregarding suffering though. It’s just the fact of the matter that suffering people have more children. It oftentimes dampens that suffering, especially when you live a meager existence. Children in urban settings meanwhile are a liability and investment regardless. Yeah the socializing of cost will come more from the child-free in the future. Thankfully, America will largely avoid the worst of it but I doubt other governments will go quietly into the night. Putin’s last gamble here is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:59 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationNobody is saying they don’t suffer. So drop that line lol The only point I am making is that your prescriptions are not backed by any data. We should have healthcare and education regardless but a higher birth rate that does not make lol Countries will likely do a combination of taxes on unmarried and childless in addition to child tax credits. Like they have been doing for decades, but now ramped up a few notches. You are already paying an effective child-free tax. If you don’t have a kid, you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:34 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationAgain, even in first world countries, the data is weak. The poorest and most unhealthy women still have the most babies. And the countries implementing the best healthcare and leave policies still see declining birth rates below replacement. The data is just not on your side about this. You are seeing the results of female education and moving into urban areas more than any generous healthcare or parental leave policies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:17 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationThese policies that the USSR implemented was to boost the birth rate. Avoiding the tax becomes an incentive. Granted we already do this in the USA. Much of our taxes go to children in the form of schools etc.. so if you are child-free, you are already being taxed to care for other children. In addition, we offer child tax credits. So we already effectively do this. A tax on unmarried and child free adults though is more explicit and has more of a bite to it. Or at least that is what the USSR fou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:10 AM |
| 2 | CMV: "Protection" against false raep accusations is misogynisticWe really don’t know how rare they are though. It’s impossible to calculate. As metoo showed, social media and college accusations are very consequential and it is virtually impossible to gather that data. Any data set excludes social media accusations. Remember that Reddit trend accusing the ceo of rape to make a point? False accusations were the majority and common that week lol you could write a twitter bot to spam millions of accusations to random people a day and false accusations would bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:06 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationNone of what you said makes sense when the poorest least educated and unhealthiest women tend to have the most children. Communist governments have taxed single and unmarried people to some success though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 02:01 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationThe idea is to tax unmarried and child free adults. Not sure what the OP is talking about but the USSR did this for years with some success in increasing their birth rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 01:56 AM |
| – | Final Solution for a declining populationDo what the USSR did. Tax single adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/23 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer?default to coping and uplifting which I don’t think is bad either. To be clear, I don't think this is necessarily bad or at least morally bad. Oftentimes, this is what the girl is actually seeking in friendships. Or at least I think it is. She doesn't really want to be told to take ozempic and hit the gym twice a day. I just think it's "dating advice" oftentimes obfuscated by these types of feel good mantra that make it no longer advice? Thinking as I type so forgive me lack of clarity, but this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 03:14 PM |
| 10 | CMV: "Protection" against false raep accusations is misogynisticLife is sexist then. There are also protections women use for one night stands too. Tell others where you are going and how long you'll be out. Always have an escape plan. etc... You would have a plan for safe guarding yourself if you traveled to Afghanistan or Detroit. It's really no different in my opinion. I don't think it means you are egregiously problematic or sexist. At a certain point, you have to not care about big-yikes-sweaty moralizing accusations and protect yourself regardless of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer?That's fair, but the larger conversation is within the context of unhelpful dating advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 02:28 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: For Men Who Think Most Dating Advice is "Unhelpful", What Would You Prefer?I've never seen bluepillers say their own advice doesn't work. Really depends on who you define as "BPers." There's this terminally alone girl in our friend group and the girls admittedly give her awful feel-good advice that they admit doesn't work. They will also admit the only real advice she needs is two-a-days and ozempic. The "advice" the girls are giving her is not really advice but simple empathy in her struggles. They are not really trying to fix her situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 02:19 PM |
| 0 | There are no benefits to having kids as a womenWell bro, if you want more kids maybe you should incentivize people to have kids bro. Things like guaranteed parental leave, affordable childcare, universal healthcare, etc bro. But red pillers don't see very interested in voting in liberal politicians who would fight for these things bro. This doesn't work for increasing birth rates, or I haven't seen any data that suggests it does. The countries that implement these policies see no change in birthrates and only further declines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/23 03:25 PM |
| 3 | The society we want where women making the first moves and approaching men is the norm will never happen.It actually does. Sex shaming was the primary form of birth control that parents used. Before the pill, it would be incredibly inconvenient for a farmer’s daughter or a factory workers daughter to be knocked up at 14. Birth outside of wedlock was also shamed into men, hence shotgun weddings. Men seem less bothered by social stigma though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Modern feminism is actively oversexualizing womenYes, really. The % of young people who had sex in the past year is significantly below prior generations. You can't argue with the math. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 05:35 PM |
| 4 | Modern feminism is actively oversexualizing womenI've always said that women are far more likely to be pressured to be promiscuous than they are slut shamed. I do think, though, think that attitudes about sex are changing recently with the wave of abstinence we are witnessing from gen z. The height of slut culture and that type of feminism was 2007ish, grew, lived and died with Paris Hilton. Another thought I had recently was that some of the most popular songs of that time period 'Fergalicious' and 'Hollaback Girl' are about how they are not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Are Romance Novels a Good Indicator of What Turns Women On? Thoughts on "It Ends With Us"Because that’s what everyone referred them to as in the 2000s 🤷♂️ you are just noticing the evolution of pretty boys perhaps but people called those boy band members pretty boys for as long as I can remember. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Are Romance Novels a Good Indicator of What Turns Women On? Thoughts on "It Ends With Us"We are just going to disagree lol the boy bands of the 90s were pretty boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Are Romance Novels a Good Indicator of What Turns Women On? Thoughts on "It Ends With Us"No.... those boy bands were pretty boys. The grunge scene was the bad boys. And all of the members wore makeup. Most stars do in shows and on TV. The weatherman on TV wears makeup lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Do you think the birth control pill has affected politics and women’s mating preferences?I'm not sure if those studies are actually replicable, but we will never know to what extent pumping women up with hormones has changed everything. Progesterone can worsen mood symptoms. Limited research suggests that compared with women who don’t use hormonal birth control, those who do are more likely report feeling depressed, anxious, and angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 01:45 PM |
| 4 | Are Romance Novels a Good Indicator of What Turns Women On? Thoughts on "It Ends With Us"Young women like pretty boys. Millennial women liked boy bands at one time. Women appreciate masculinity more with age, I have found. Confidence and strength can be intimidating and an appreciation of it comes with age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 01:29 PM |
| 0 | CMV: it’s a huge red flag for a western guy if he can’t handle girls in Western apparel and liv e in the westActing like all of the choices made above are made to sexually attract the opposite sex It's hard to discern whether or not you are dressing up to be sexually attractive or just generally well-put together and handsome. The fit of men's suits are designed to accentuate the sexual dimorphic male traits in humans that signify masculinity. Suits are more flattering to the male body shape, making the wearer seem taller and slimmer. The “silhouette” that it provides for the wearer creates an athletic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Why don't women get heat for dating career-oriented men and then complaining about how the man works long hours and is rarely at home?Are you denying this is a common pop culture trope? "He's never around" ring a bell? What is going on here lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”I think asking someone to change something because you’re insecure is bad behavio Anxiety and fear that your spouse might die in a car accident being a truck driver or die in a work/combat accident or incident in the military IS insecurity. It's the literal definition of insecurity. Which is why the analogy makes sense. The reason to ask the person to change something about themselves is literal insecuity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 09:25 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”If you bring a valid concern forward and discuss it, that’s not controlling It is 100% attempting to control someone's decisions, even if it's valid. You just you think that the controlling behavior is justifiable. You are moralizing the word where controlling = bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 09:18 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”And yes, people would understand if there was a legitimate reason Right, that is my point. They are invalidating his reason. It's not just that he is asking her not to post pics, it is why is he asking that. But nobody in this thread is making the distinction, they are just calling it controlling. It's the same level of "controlling" either way, regardless of what the why is. Insecurity is a legitimate reason by the way. It's perfectly legitimate to be insecure lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 09:04 PM |
| 1 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”but no matter, because there actually IS a big difference between the two statements. Honestly, just don't see it as external or that it matters. It's an internal decision that he made to accept the job and ask you to delete your pics. He does not have to accept the job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 09:01 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”you say this like it's a normal thing It's not just the CIA, lots of top secret government jobs here require this. NSA, FBI etc.. honey I have no problem with your booty pics bc I'm not an insecure asshole but the CIA doesn't like them, it could put us into jail so you decide if we continue this relationship or not" So right this is my point, you have a problem with the insecurity, not the asking to not post pics lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”Truck drivers is a more dangerous job than the US military. Roofers, construction workers etc... Just exchange it for really any job that has a commute and you drive and you have a 1% chance of death just from the commute alone. A better analogy would be dating a competitive surfer and then asking him not to post shirtless pics or pics with female surfers. That really doesn't make sense. I think women have an issue with it because it's slut-shaming adjacent and he is insecure. If he accepted a j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:53 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”I live in the DMV area lol I know a few people who had to ask their girlfriends to delete their social media presences if they wanted to continue their relationships. Anyway, thought experiments are not required to be applicable to your personally to entertain them. That is kind of what is fun about thought experiments? You can imagine yourself as someone else for a philosophical discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:39 PM |
| 2 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”If the law is involved it's a different thing your example You can't marry people with social media presence if you are an agent in the CIA. so far from reality it doesn't even deserve discussion It's not far from reality lol It happens all the time in this reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:33 PM |
| 3 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”It's like the military wife threatening to break up if they re enlist, not the same as expressing concerns. Besides maybe they agreed on 1 enlistment but not 2. I wonder if the roles were reversed but it was emotionless instead. "Hey, I accepted that job at the CIA and can no longer date you if you continue to post social media pics of family members due to the security concern." Honestly, I think this is a thing where we see some dude as emotionally insecure and sloppy with words and emotional … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 08:22 PM |
| 5 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”Not making her job a problem or something she should change? This seems to me like splitting words. It's implied that yes, it is her job that is the problem. And if she was really interested in you, she would probably take it that way. "Hey I got a job offer from the CIA that I am accepting, and if you want to continue to be in a relationship with me you have to stop posting pics of your family on insta." This is an ultimatum and perfectly acceptable. It just seems to be wrapping it up in bow to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 07:06 PM |
| 2 | The friendzone doesn't exist - Many relationships start between friendsI do, I also know lots of people who have remained in each others friend-zones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 06:41 PM |
| 4 | The friendzone doesn't exist - Many relationships start between friendsOkay? And in my friend group they oftentimes don't hook up and remain in the friend-zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 06:18 PM |
| 11 | The friendzone doesn't exist - Many relationships start between friendsFriendzone exists, but it's defined as a creepy loser who hits on a woman and expects that she will eventually fall in love with him. In my friend group, some of the women publicly consider the male friends "friend-zoned" and no one is a creepy loser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 06:08 PM |
| 7 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”You don't understand analogies. It could be as simple as her not wanting to move cities every couple years. He might just be a mechanic and has no combat duty and she is not afraid at all of PTSD or death or injury. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 03:48 PM |
| 6 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”If when I told you that looking for your lost dog is like finding a needle in a haystack, you said "omg my dog is different than a needle. The stakes and context is so different." I would tell you that you don't understand analogies because you are clearly not understanding what is being compared here. People change and discover what they want out of a partner even when they are already dating a partner and it is okay to change your mind and tell them what is not making the relationship work. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Jonah hills situation shows the hypocrisy of society, 'communication' only matters when it benefits one partHe's just dumb and that is okay. I'd hope that by the time I'm 37 I know what I do and don't like in a partner. Me too. But some people are dumb and slow to discover what they want. And that is okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:23 PM |
| 16 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”If when I told you that looking for your lost dog is like finding a needle in a haystack, you said "omg my dog is different than a needle. The stakes and context is so different." I would tell you that you don't understand analogies because you are clearly not understanding what is being compared here. No you don't understand the point of analogies. People change and discover what they want out of a partner even when they are already dating a partner and it is okay to change your mind and tell t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:21 PM |
| 14 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”You don't understand analogies. The point of analogies is not to compare surfing to war. The point is... people discover what makes them feel anxious and insecure in relationships and act on that discovery - and it is okay to communicate to your partner and move on from relationships where you have had that discovery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:18 PM |
| 12 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”feeling insecure? The feeling military wives often feel IS insecurity - the literal definition of it. Anyways, the point is to not compare surfing to fighting in war, but learning that you can discover what makes you feel anxious and insecure and that's a valid fleeing regardless of WHY you feel it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Jonah hills situation shows the hypocrisy of society, 'communication' only matters when it benefits one partI get your point but lots of people mature in their relationship preferences as they age, especially through their 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:13 PM |
| 26 | The Jonah Hill discourse is a display of many men not knowing the difference between “boundary” and “controlling”That being said, these messages do display a clear lack of knowledge between the two things - now, it is important to note that Brady is a surfer, she has surfed competitively and has done so for a living - She also posted the kind of photos she does long before they were dating as well, which is kinda important to note - Something analogous to this is military wives. PLENTY of military girlfriends/wives discourage and ask their boyfriends/husbands not to re-enlist. Humans are complex about thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Jonah hills situation shows the hypocrisy of society, 'communication' only matters when it benefits one partThis happens all the time and is not unreasonable nor abusive. We can't get married if you insist on re-enlisting and doing another Afghanistan tour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 01:26 PM |
| -4 | Jonah hills situation shows the hypocrisy of society, 'communication' only matters when it benefits one partBut they themselves have decided to change, it's not the guy trying to force change on them, that's the difference. He was just being young and dumb. It's not forcing change. It's just being dumb and not understanding what you are comfortable with. That is not being abusive, that is just being inexperienced with your own feelings and understanding your own boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/23 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Yeah we can just talk about what your opinion on some ideal future you alluded to above is exactly here. Do you think there exists a future in which no gender expectations with regards to dating desirability exists? Where straight men can act like gay twinks and yet still have an equivalent level of attractiveness to other more traditional gender expression men? I guess I just don't see how this future can even exist where we divorce "traditional displays of masculinity and linking that to desir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:28 PM |
| 6 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I looked up “romance novels with skinny guys” and people do actually want that stuff, lol Skinny straight guys who act like gay twinks? That's a pretty slim market for a publisher to even green light. I think sexuality is about gender but not gender roles. No or else we would see an equivalent amount of gay-acting little twinks in female romance novels being lusted over by straight women. It's funny, you see feminists and libs online all up in arms about gender roles when it comes to women worki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:50 PM |
| 10 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I’m always curious because on this sub I see a lot of people talking about very traditional displays of masculinity and linking that to desirability and I wonder if we worked on dismantling the need for that, if people would be happier. Do you actually think that female romance novels will ever have straight twinks as their protagonist? How feminine do you think a guy can act and still get laid or still be sexually attractive? You think if I brought my gay twink friend out to bars he could get l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:21 PM |
| – | Why are "happily married" people browsing these subs?That's a fair response! People just like to argue on topics they find interesting I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 07:04 PM |
| – | Why are "happily married" people browsing these subs?I am not BP, but some people are happily employed and gainfully invested and still like to argue and debate personal finance, employment market issues and investment advice. Some people just like the discussion topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 06:00 PM |
| 0 | CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this.Nobody is arguing that it’s a must or a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 05:24 PM |
| 0 | CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this.Resigned themselves to the dynamic as the alternative of pure singledom is worse. What don’t you understand about these words? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 04:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this.Some women resign themselves to that dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:14 PM |
| -2 | CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this.Women being side-chicked and in situationships are like the norm in my city. On the contrary, I would be hard pressed to find a female friend who is not or has not recently been in this relationship dynamic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractionIf this was true then you would see a similar amount of male strip clubs with these types of men as female strip clubs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.My statement includes personality traits. I never edited my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 09:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.We are not disagreeing here. This is the same reason why gay little twinks are not attractive to hetero women. Women just don't like that feminine personality in a man. The gay little twink is not the personality of sex symbol men in female romance novels lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 09:30 PM |
| 0 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.I don't doubt your preference, however, gender stereotypes still largely plays a role in dating attractiveness generally speaking. Nothing wrong with being an outlier though. It's just obvious fact to me that butch lesbian women are not as attractive as feminine women (to hetero men) or else we'd see them as sex symbols for the male audience. Instead, we see stereotypical feminine traits in the most popular female sex stars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 09:23 PM |
| 2 | Even if Female Nature is true, there's no benefit being mad at it and we must accept it for what it isThis is survivorship bias. Most RPers ultimately leave the forums and online discussion. It's not meant to be stewed upon and discussed in perpetuity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Do hormones dictate what traits you are attracted to?hormone levels dictate whether you are attracted to masculinity or femininity in men/women? Not so much addressing the rest of your post, but I'm pretty sure that is well-documented that trans people's trait preferences do change when they take hormones. Maybe soon we will be able to go a larger study on this issue without relying on a few who self-report it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Older women who complain about age gap relationships are just jealousI don't think they are jealous as much as they are on a personal crusade to protect random women. This is why women online tell men not to approach women at work, not to approach women at the gym or in public transport or grocery shopping. I've dated girls from all four of the mentioned places above and yet I've seen it so many times advised against by women online. If it is so common to meet SOs this way then why are women advising against it (and age gaps as well). Well it's because they assum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 06:07 PM |
| 3 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Agreed, and I find the ethical debate interesting, but it's often a thinly veiled attempt at proclaiming one particular gender is bad or worse than the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:35 PM |
| 6 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.declare one gender or another morally superior on whatever grounds. I try to reject the moralizing on this sub if I can help it. I also think ethics is a large part of this sub's debate but the constant moralizing comes off as meaningless when it comes to debating the veracity of RP. It's also largely irrelevant. As if it is relevant to a woman that she desires traits she herself does not possess. It's like of course she doesn't. The whole premise of heterosexuality is desiring traits that one p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 03:19 PM |
| 10 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Great comment, it's a topic that comes up regularly on this sub. Honestly, I am with him. It is rather meaningless when it comes to dating. If you are sexy, young but poor woman and the only thing that will make you happy in life is being with a man who makes more money than you, why should this discussion on "double-standards" be meaningful to you? In other words, why should it matter to this woman if she finds that man and marries him? She is happy and is not hurting anyone. The whole screamin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.What does your personal preference have to do with my topic? You really think butch women are as attractive to hetero men as stereotypical feminine women? You think this is just merely my personal preference and not a general characteristic of heterosexuality? Then why do most hetereosexuals say they would never date a transgender person? I never said heterosexuality is NOT rooted in sex. I said heterosexuality is also rooted in gender too. Please try to read the words being written. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Sexuality is about sex. Heterosexuality is rooted in gender too, not just sex and that's mostly based on genitals No. Butch women are not as attractive as feminine women (to hetero men). It is not just about genitals. Your idea that heterosexual peoples are merely attracted to genitals is just obviously incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.That I acknowledge 97+ percent of the human population is cis? No lol forget it, it is besides the point anyway. Again, if you were correct and it was only sex or "biology", butch women would be just as attractive as feminine women and little gay bottom twinks would be just as attractive to hetero women as masculine men. We both know that the above is just not true. Hetero men do not find butch women attractive. And butch women will happily acknowledge this! Why would they care? And yet, for som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.gender dysphoria is rare? That is not what is transphobic about your comment. Preferences and sexuality are not the same thing. Not sure what you are trying to say here. Heterosexuality is rooted in gender stereotypes - which is why butch women are not attractive to hetero men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Transphobic.... Wrong. That’s biology. That's incorrect. Again, if it was only sex or "biology", butch lesbian women would be just as attractive as feminine women and little gay bottom twinks would be just as attractive to hetero women as masculine men. Also gender is largely biology. A feminine voice is a gender stereotype despite it being rooted in biology. A feminine walk as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:24 PM |
| 3 | CMV: “Men and women are different” is just an excuse to rationalize hypocrisy.Humans are sexually dimorphic, so women will almost always desire a trait in men that they themselves do not possess Vaginas, penises, breasts, large protruding pancake nipples, are examples of traits one gender desire that they themselves do not possess. But because humans are sexually dimorphic and have personalities, you will also see these splits in personality traits associated with hormones as well - strength, height, aggression. judge them solely by gender stereotypes! How can you even be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 01:12 PM |
| 7 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenhttps://www.safehousecenter.org/the-intersection-of-domestic-violence-and-poverty/ The intersection of domestic abuse and poverty is well documented. The poors are just more violent. It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:25 PM |
| 5 | When women have bad relationships they are told to “pick better” but when men are, we assign blame to womenObviously incorrect. Abusive people date known abusers all the time. The underclass of this country regularly dates abusive people knowing full well they are shitty. Go into any trailer park or inner city and you will see plenty of people dating known abusers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.And how many women date rich men lol Why does that matter to the conversation? Lots of women from overseas marry American men. I think the term "rich" is relative. Stop trying to moralize you’re demoralizing behaviour and go on with life I'm not doing this. Who are you talking to here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.Delicate sensibilities that make you a hypocrite. Honestly, if dating a rich man is what makes the poor woman happy then why should she care about what online moralizers sneed about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.Don’t engage in the act if you can’t seem to muster the idea of women doing the same. I don't see why not? Just because you have delicate sensibilities? If a woman will only be happy with a man who makes more money than her, then who cares if she pursues that? The idea that your preferences for a spouse has to exactly match your own traits is ridiculous. As long as you don't moralize about it and look down on others, I don't see the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.I don't think you understand... look down on others Correct. That is my point, not yours. They need to moralize and look down on others, not merely criticize them. A scat fetishist would judge and criticize non-scat fetishists as being incompatible because they don't associate disgust with sex like they do. But that doesn't mean they look down at them. Similarly, one could prefer non-sluts without looking down on sluts. Something being gross and them being disgusted by it are not the same thing.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.If you think something is disgusting you don't engage in it That's not true at all. Scat fetishists know it's disgusting that is why they do it. Just like cucks like to be humiliated. They know it's humiliating, that is why they engage in it. They don't find it disgusting in the slightest. I got a blowjob in a porta potty at a festival once. It was fucking disgusting 100%. Still did it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 07:43 PM |
| 8 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.I don't know what you are trying to say here. I don't care about whatever guy or girl boogeyman you made up in your head to argue with. Debate me, not someone you made up in your head. Promiscuous women are disgusting. I think scat play is disgusting, doesn't mean I think poop fetishists are necessarily immoral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 07:37 PM |
| 16 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.Disagree. I think it hinges more on moralizing. criticize those with the same features/behaviors as themselves. I don't know how to date without forming a judgment of someone. Imagine if I was boring and wanted to date a fun person. This would necessitate me critiquing the personalities of dating prospects and labeling them boring or fun or somewhere on that spectrum. I would inherently be "hypocritical" according to your logic, but that is not really being hypocritical. It would only really be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 07:30 PM |
| 1 | For guys who want an active woman, why and what does that mean to you?I saw a lot of men stating they want an active woman, and I started thinking what does that mean actually. Like what is active for you? And why? I enjoy a pretty wide range of active sports. Snowboarding, skiing, wakeboarding, wakesurfing, kayaking, sailing, horsebackriding, mountainbiking and flying. I don't expect her to keep up with me but I do expect her to hold her own and be willing to try these things. If you have ever done any of the above with someone obese or just not active, it can qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Women love one night stands as much as men doWomen do enjoying hooking up, but not as much as men do... or else you'd see no difference between hetero casual sex culture and gay male casual sex culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 02:30 PM |
| 7 | Redpill dudes, do you actually believe rich men date broke women?You’re defining “date” too strictly as if it solely means “seeking a long term relationship with the intent of marriage.” Rich men “date” broke girls all the time in the cities I’ve lived. Wall St guys dating dancers, consultants dating congressional aides etc… People casually date. It’s not strictly about LTR for marriage. Sometimes it’s just about fun company doing something enjoyable together and sex. These broke women are in the same class as them though. It's not like they are picking up tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 01:16 AM |
| 1 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexNotice how the researches are saying “narcissistic” not “diagnosable NPD.” You recognize the different, yeah? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 07:29 PM |
| 8 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexwomen who are narcissistic I think women are just kinda like this. Female narcissists gain pleasure and joy when they bring other people down, but the other side of the coin is that they gain pleasure from self-love which is oftentimes externally dependent - essentially other people, but most importantly themselves, finding her attractive. Reminds me of this NY Mag article with that porn experiment. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?hp “Certainly women are very sexual a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 04:11 PM |
| – | Q4W: Why do so many women enter into relationships with really awful men?The OP is about being "awful," but okay...same story for being abusive. You are still ignoring the most common reason why abusive people get into relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 08:58 PM |
| – | Q4W: Why do so many women enter into relationships with really awful men?Why not include women who are also abusive? These people more commonly date each other rather than date other non-abusive people in my experience. The most common reason women date shitty men is because those women are shitty too. They are trashy, low-class and have relationship tendencies of the low class - emotional and physical abuse. That is their normal. They don't even realize what is happening because that is normal for them. This is the most common dynamic for why people date shitty peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 08:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4allLived in DC for like 6 years. A lot lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Q4allI've never really met a swinger couple or poly couple who were well put together and mentally healthy. I am sure they exist somewhere but I'd probably pass on that unless I vetted them outside of a dating site. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 06:15 PM |
| – | Are the majority of men against abortion doing so only to fulfill a deeply unconscious evolutionary desire for reproduction of their own lineage (that abortion threatens) or socio-cultural reasons that revolve around morality, belief, philosophy, etc.?I mean it is clearly a life, not sure if it's a "baby" though. Even a single-cell embryonic human zygote is "alive." I don't know why there is so much song and dance around the issue. Sometimes you just gotta kill something that is alive. Happens justifiably all the time in self-defense. I'd kill you if you were attached to me for 9 months or prevented me from attending school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 05:41 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anythingWhy exactly? I am challenging his view that this is given as advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 04:44 PM |
| – | Pretty much every advice targeted at men is to make them to wait until they are too old to do anything"stop bothering women and work on yourself the right one will come along one day" This is sold as "advice" but it's really just a way for women to protect other women in some hypothetical world. Women don't really recognize an "approach" as one that is successful and respectful, I think. They date men they have met at the gym and at work, but to them, those men met them organically. When you say you "approached" a girl at the gym, the visual women have in their minds is the dude who rips their h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:29 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsAlmost nobody swallows hemlock just for fun. I suppose my point is that what you consider toxic, they consider pleasurable, or just normal. That is what their world is. They’re going to likely pick the option that provides them with both the best combination of security, good genes, and lack of danger to them and their offspring. True | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:09 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it representsI don’t think that women actually want to be with toxic guys. There are a few things to address here. People absolutely pursue toxic things for one. Does a drug addict pursue toxic chemicals for their toxicity? Lots of women also do not know any other reality. Low class toxic culture is all they know. Whether it is trailer park culture or inner-city culture, there is no other option or reality other than emotional abuse and very likely, they themselves are probably abusive in their own right. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:52 PM |
| 0 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?I would agree with this statement if this statement was able to be transferred to masc men. But it doesn't. This is a person to person thing. I once thought everyone was unique snowflakes too. Honestly, we are just going to disagree about this. Twinks are very common and many of them are my friends. And straight women are not attracted to them even though some are bi. Straight women do not like feminine emotional energy radiating from men. Acting like they do is a massive lie, I am not even sure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?I've always found the LGBT community more honest with this discussion. I've never found straight women to be very introspective or honest when talking about this, especially online. The other day, my bi friend said she loves dating her masc partner because "she doesn't have to plan or think about responsibilities." You could write a book on the gender roles implied by this single sentence, but this has masculine emotional control gender role implications. LGBT people commonly have reference and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:46 PM |
| 2 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?I don't see that anywhere, but ok. You can open up to male friends, therapists etc... Literally said you can open up to male friends and therapists in the first sentence lmao crying or being emotional a turn off. To what extent? To the extent of how a woman acts? We disagree entirely on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:49 PM |
| 4 | Here's economics answer to the classic question that countless women always ask: "Where have all the good men gone?"But we are talking about the currently existing dating market for men and women who claim they are single and are looking for a mate. Correct. The current market is where all the good men are taking out of the market much earlier than was anticipated by women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:24 PM |
| 3 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?Men and their mental health are important. Never said it is not. Quote me where I said they should silently suffer. In fact, I said the opposite, that you might talk to your therapist about it. You are reading what you want to hear, not what is being said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:22 PM |
| 5 | Here's economics answer to the classic question that countless women always ask: "Where have all the good men gone?"There is an economic answer but you lost me above. The more succinct answer is that good men are in relationships and get married relatively young. The market is constantly being drained of "good men." Women are not lying when they wonder where all these men are. The good men are really not there because they are taken off the market very quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:09 PM |
| 3 | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?You can open up to male friends, therapists etc... People treat separate people differently depending on their utility all the time. Do you treat your boss the same as your girlfriend? Of course not. Do you break down and cry to your boss at work? Probably not. You might talk to your therapist about it and cry to them and work through employment issues, but crying to your boss at work shows a lack of determination, confidence and tact. How your employer views your utility is comparable to how a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 02:07 PM |
| 4 | I'm a passport bro. Ask me anything.Damn bro sorry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 03:41 PM |
| 1 | I'm a passport bro. Ask me anything.Do you drive a little moped thing around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 03:09 PM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?Nowhere did I claim it was JUST a trait of younger women. Again, humans age out of being engaged in this fun causal sex lifestyle due to life responsibilities. And that is okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:55 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?Nowhere did I claim that every younger person is bubbly and fun. Nowhere did I claim that every older person has more responsibilities. Do you know what populations look like in the aggregate. It’s like you think it’s controversial that older people have more responsibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:47 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?I didn’t ask if some are lol I don’t think this is true in the aggregate. Older people get less “fun” with age. And that’s perfectly okay. It’s okay to age out of the “fun” casual sex lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:45 AM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?You really think older women are as equally as bubbly and easy-going as younger women? Older PEOPLE get less fun if only because of life responsibilities. A mortgage. Kids. Etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:12 AM |
| 3 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?It might be slightly less but would not be surprised if it has not changed much. I met my wife at work. It’s basically as unavoidable as not dating someone from school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?For sure, and if you are going to approach a stranger it would help to have something in common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 07:13 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickyAwesome man, keep it up! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:19 PM |
| 12 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?Two people with a shared interest in EDM have more in common than randos at Target. Yes, but they are both still strangers wtf haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:17 PM |
| 9 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?Just because you share a common interest in some EDM festival doesn't make you not strangers. What a strange thing to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:15 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too picky2/3 of American men are obese. You'd be 7/10 just be not being obese. Work on literally anything else and you'd be 8/10. Hairstyle, clothing, attractive hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickybecause most of the guys are lazy. This is true. What % of men do you think go to the gym? Care about hair style and clothing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:46 PM |
| 14 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?Sometimes but not always. Lots of women get into relationships from work, gym, concerts etc... It often is from complete strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:42 PM |
| 73 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?Women use social media apps as dating apps. For my single men friends, their hookups have been via sliding into DMs of friends and friends of friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:37 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickyIf your argument is that she should improve herself more, then that argues against your OP. You are effectively telling her that she is too picky for her looks, so she should raise her looks (or lower her standards). Again though, naturally, people indeed lower their standards as they age. They stop dating so strongly for looks and start to date more towards compatibility of life goals and personality. People lower their standards for various measures all the time. Life is about compromises and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:33 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickyI don’t think anyone should lower their standards. Why not? If a 300lb woman came to me and asked for dating advice and her standards were "I don't date men who make under $1M a year," I would advise her to reconsider her standards. Naturally, people indeed lower their standards as they age. They stop dating so strongly for looks and start to date more towards compatibility of life goals and personality. People lower their standards for various measures all the time. Life is about compromises an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:15 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickyFor sure, it's not for everyone. There has to be a good foundation to work on. Honestly haven't read up on the sidebar in years but do they say it works for "everyone?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickybut again that isn’t womens fault, I think it would behoove you if you ignored people moralizing and stopped moralizing yourself. Lots of blaming shame word choice and tone that implies something immoral. Of course it's not women's "fault." RP would make the claim that this is how women are biologically. Similarly, you can't really "fault" a dog for barking. That being said, humans have the ability to decide on how closely we pursue biological induced desires. The last overweight girl to slide i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 03:59 PM |
| 2 | I don’t think it’s true that women are too pickyAs RP says, it is truly the golden age of alpha men. If you go to the gym, dress well, eat well, have independently fun hobbies (flying, boating, racing, snowboarding/skiing, wakeboarding), then you will kill it. You will lap everyone who sits on the couch or on their phone every evening and that is the vast majority of people, men and women. That all being said, yes, even the women who are overweight and boring have standards well above the standards they have for themselves. I don't think that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 03:47 PM |
| 2 | What is sexualization if sexualization is based on claimed intentions?I agree with your wider point here but… female humans are the only female mammal to have permanently enlarged breasts. All other mammals only have enlarged breasts when breastfeeding so it’s largely agreed upon by scientists that signifying fertility are secondary functions of human breasts. In that sense, they serve another purpose than breastfeeding. That all being said, the same can be said about male muscle definition in that they are a signifier of sexuality and fertility of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 03:14 AM |
| 0 | Marriage in AmericaOkay thanks for clarifying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 11:01 PM |
| -1 | Marriage in AmericaI said “basically automatic.” As in if you identify as married you are automatically deemed married by the state. There is nothing needed to be done by the state. The process of legally recognized marriage is therefore basically automatic. The marriage is automatically legally recognized by the state by you identifying as married. Sorry about the confusion and choice of words if it made you seethe. I’m sure there is a better way to put it in legalese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Marriage in AmericaLol who are you? And where did you check lmao. Born in the USA baby. And yes. I said it depends on the state. Anyway. This is all besides the point of the economic benefits of marriage. The amount of contracts you would have to sign with friends / girlfriends to receive the full economics benefits to match marriage are unrealistic to expect and downright impractical. You would struggle to find a financial advisor to advise you split a house purchase with a friend or girlfriend or contribute join… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Marriage in AmericaThat's true, but you are afforded the protections should the union dissolve under marriage. Many states also offer common law marriages that are basically automatic. Either way, you don't really want to split the cost of a swimming pool and then not have some legal backing should the union dissolve. Indeed, it would also be hard to find a friend or random bittie I would even enter such a high capital investment and legal agreement with, although you could find a lawyer do make a contract up. I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 07:58 PM |
| 6 | Marriage in Americabesides taxes anymore? Economies of scale. You only need 1 microwave, 1 pool, 1 car (if you live in a city), 1 oven. Due to economies of scale, your quality of life is possibly much higher when married compared to the alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 04:20 PM |
| – | Just want to point out that fictional female characters are often held to certain dress-code standards by womenIt's just strange to me. People seem to allow others to watch porn, but to have it in their video games is a step too far? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 04:15 PM |
| – | Just want to point out that fictional female characters are often held to certain dress-code standards by womenIf there is no such thing as a woman dressing too sexy, then how on earth could we criticize for example female video game characters for being too sexy? I never understood this obsession some people have with sexy women on TV or video games. I don't think these same people are oh so offended about porn? Or maybe they are offended by porn but it doesn't ever seem that way. Seems like they are only upset about video game portrayals. Let people enjoy soft core porn in their games, who cares? What … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsenjoy some of it :P I find this is the biggest life sucking trappings of my more left-leaning friends. Come to the stables and learn to jump a horse, go to the yacht club learn to sail and rent a catamaran, take flying lessons and learn to fly that 172. We live in a nation and time where the opportunity for enjoyment is so vast and it appears like some of my friends just don't want to enjoy it out sense of ideological purity because it's certainly not due to financial constraints for them. btw h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:56 PM |
| 14 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsOn paper if men were really freed of their gender role then men should be able to do whatever they want and not receive any type of social penalty. Correct. If gender roles truly didn't matter, a man could act like a gay little twink sissy bottom and still get laid the same (by straight women lol). That is clearly not the case. This is one reason why dating advice for men tends to lean rightwing. At a certain point in specificity, dating advice will start to advise gender roles. Going to the gym… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:12 PM |
| 15 | Is there a disconnect between political beliefs and dating behaviorsThere is a pretty large disconnect. Gender roles and the attitudes towards them are one example. I think certain people will claim that gender roles are bad, but...all that people really think about "gender roles" is "women = kitchen." Ask a trans person about gender roles and what acts they have to perform in order to present and pass as the opposite gender and you will recognize that gender roles are ever-present. Think of yourself now. Now think of yourself playing a role in a movie where you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 08:02 PM |
| 13 | CMV: "Approaching women" is dumb and a waste of time.Even cold approaches are fine. I've dated girls from the gym and from their place of work. I've met and dated a girl from a grocery store too. Women look at the above instances and their mind instantly goes to the worst case scenario creepy or rudely blunt approach but here is how it really happened: Local neighborhood grocery store in a city, only locals shop there for fresh produce and such. Ask a girl a question about her choice of food or make some mild comment about it. Strike a polite conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 03:55 PM |
| 7 | Blues Commit the Moralistic Fallacy. Reds Commit the Naturalistic Fallacy.Think you’re confusing tradcon with red pill. Red pill philosophy itself is not tradcon. I would argue that if you’re RP and slamming sluts then you’re not really tradcon. Don’t let ‘red pill’ be an umbrella term for manosphere. Tradcon do exist here and in manosphere spaces but they aren’t red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?What am I complaining about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 10:59 PM |
| – | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?It is from my experience. It’s a soft harem. Both are sleeping around though, sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 07:46 PM |
| 7 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?As I already said to you, these are Just my thoughts. I already explained that. The “single” women in my life are far more likely to claim their status as complicated or within a Situationship than the single men. And | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 04:43 PM |
| 4 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?Can you quote the survey? It won’t ever be exactly 20%, sure. There is, still, a pretty wide disparity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 04:28 PM |
| 19 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?Did the survey ask “committed relationship?” The disconnect is of the answers I think. Where women consider themselves in some of a relationship or “situationship” as women call it today, while the man does not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 04:15 PM |
| 23 | What are your thoughts on the research consensus being that women initiate domestic violence significantly more than menAs others said, it's the response of the police and your social circle including employment that should scare you due to the delusional stance that men are primarily guilty via mere accusation, victimization and involvement in DV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menSure it’s the male version of her skull structure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 05:55 AM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menI don’t think so? It’s based on their consumer tastes. They ostensibly soft released the features before a full roll out. Do you think that it’s so popular because it’s not a widely held belief of taste? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 12:59 AM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menWhat do you mean? It's not a secret that social media apps have been hiring psychologists to develop feminine filters. Also, different people have different taste, there's no common axis to flip on. People have certain tastes in the aggregate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 12:10 AM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menYeah? From my understanding, they change the spots fat are typically stored in the face, so yes they do in a way. They are facial filters, not height filters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 12:08 AM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menI don’t think they necessarily should but it seems to have a certain humbling effect regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 12:06 AM |
| 1 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menI don’t think it diminishes her cuteness as a woman. It made her realize the guy version of herself is in a completely different league - or “humbled” her by her own admission, but that doesn’t diminish her cuteness as a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 10:23 PM |
| 5 | TikTok gender swap pill: Women surprised that most of them look like unattractive menstandards for beauty between Men and Women are explicitly different and there is zero reason to assume a 1:1 transfer. I tohught these filters account for this? Feminine filters change your facial structure. It's not merely a hair deletion app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't the women you mutually consented to hookup with, not seen as ltr to you guys ?I’m the opposite. I would never LTR a woman who wasn’t immediately viscerally attracted to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?She can leave though? She herself expects her own behavior to change once in a relationship. That’s why you date. So you can find a woman who matches expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Because I expect some behaviors to change once in a relationship. What behaviors do you expect to change when you enter a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Insecurity” and “Trust” are words increasingly being used to gaslight menAgain, you’re not making any sense. Those boundaries exist because people are not secure enough in their relationship to trust their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:56 AM |
| 2 | CMV: “Insecurity” and “Trust” are words increasingly being used to gaslight menYou're not making any sense here. All you are arguing is that in this scenario, it is reasonable to be insecure. Therefore, it is understood to be a reasonable and common boundary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 04:42 PM |
| 0 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?I would find it strange for a 40 year old woman to have the same taste in clothing as her 21 year old self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 03:14 PM |
| -1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Sure and there are women that do who expect themselves to stop once they get in a relationship. What’s your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?I disagree. I think relatively modest women dress revealing outside of relationships. Again, that’s the point. Having these expectations of what a relationship should be IS FINDING that person. Having expectations is not necessarily trying to change anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 12:03 PM |
| -1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Who said you don’t like them? You could not like that when in a relationship. Same for porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?You can call it controlling, other women will consider it reasonable as they are more modest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Sure you should make your expectations clear if you are aware of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 01:54 AM |
| -1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Someone like who? I date many people of many different backgrounds. How do you know if it’s a problem if you don’t date them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?And that’s another expectation of a relationship you can have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 12:06 AM |
| -2 | We hear enough about red flags on this sub, what are some of your dating green flags?I’m sure you’re a wonderful person. Life is unfair. Red flags are merely mental shortcuts we use in reference to a pattern. Sometimes that pattern is not true like yourself and that’s okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?For sure you don’t go clubbing like your 21. You do it in a different way. But regardless, if that’s your thing then you can also have that expectation with your spouse - that you continue clubbing together. That is not philosophically different than expecting it to cease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:59 PM |
| 2 | We hear enough about red flags on this sub, what are some of your dating green flags?Look life is unfair I get it. Red flags are not deal breakers though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Who cares if it doesn’t end well? That’s the point. To set your expectations of boundaries and let people take it or leave it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 11:56 PM |
| 5 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?If you were attracted to them and wanted a relationship with them when they were wearing those same revealing clothes then it is controlling to suddenly switch up. Not necessarily. People change their mind. You can be okay with her doing that stuff when she was single but find it inappropriate now when married. People are attracted to soldiers but often don't want them to re-enlist. People are complex and their minds change, they want different things for different stages of life. That does not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Why are you moving the goalposts? lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Do you think it's reasonable to date and pursue someone that plays video games for 6 hours a day, become an official couple, and then tell that they can't play video games because you want that time spent on you? Honestly yes. College kids do often play video games that many hours a day. It's perfectly reasonable to marry a guy and not expect him to play video games like that when you are married and have children and a career and other responsibilities. I would encourage people to expect much m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?You expect your SO to dress appropriately to your standards, that is why you ask. You have an expectation that you have laid bare by asking. If you didn't expect it, then why would you even ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:54 PM |
| 5 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Nobody said anyone would be forced to do anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:46 PM |
| 3 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?No, you were fine with her behaviour when you met her dressing revealing and posting thirst traps What makes you think that? I was not fine with her dating other men, that is why I asked the relationship to be monogamous. By your logic, asking her to be monogamous is similarly controlling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?The beautiful thing is that there are plenty of women who don't have that lifestyle even at 21. For sure, but I'd even expect that woman to change how she dresses and for her hobbies to mature as she ages. It would extremely strange for her to dress like she did at 21. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:37 PM |
| 4 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?You can't tell someone what to do and expect them to do it because it's what YOU alone want and it was never a problem before. I agree but that doesn't back your statement here: I think it depends on if they were doing it when they met you or not. Sounds like you are backtracking and what they were doing when they met you is irrelevant. Sounds like you are talking about how you both communicate acceptable behavior after you met, not what you were doing or not doing before you met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?If you expect them to change after the fact you will be the asshole every time. eh... idk I don't really think it's unreasonable to expect people to change. Is a 40 year old woman going to clubs and posting thirst traps like she is 21? Will she be wearing the same clothing and styles? If anything, it's unreasonable to expect a woman to maintain the same revealing style of clothing as she ages. Is it really that unreasonable to expect her to change? Lots of women post thirst traps because sliding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:12 PM |
| 6 | Asking your partner to wear less revealing clothes: controlling or boundaries?Why does that matter? I was dating other women when I met her too lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 06:08 PM |
| 53 | We hear enough about red flags on this sub, what are some of your dating green flags?Loves her father | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 02:50 PM |
| 3 | How do you think women respond to "pick-mes", and why do you think that is?The women who are pursuing astronaut training are in the Air Force studying. They are not seething online about a trad wife’s insta page. My comment is specifically regarding the seething women responding negatively. I don’t think these seething women have it figured out at all. I really think they are lost young women who see someone happy giving to a man and family and it makes them genuinely angry lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 04:29 AM |
| 3 | How do you think women respond to "pick-mes", and why do you think that is?I think that so many young women (and men, but we are talking about how young women respond here to pickmes) struggle with self-worth and finding meaning and happiness in life or any sort of roadmap that brings them there. Then they see some girl on social act like she has it all figured out by loving her man. For people struggling with self-worth, it's almost implied... "My man's house is a reflection of myself" is perceived as "I have it all figured out lmbo and I'm hear to show off my happine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 05:32 PM |
| 6 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.NO ONE MEN OR WOMEN values anyone who provides nothing if this is the case. Correct. I think all relationships are transactional. I think the point of it, since you ask, is to remove the mystique surrounding love and relationships and bring them into a more economic and rational mindset. This often helps people in abusive relationships by realizing that they are indeed with someone who provides nothing. It also helps in ascertaining what you want from a partner and how to get that i.e. what do y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 05:21 PM |
| 2 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.and not a transactional commodity But it obviously is assuming you would break up with someone for not loving you anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.where love is viewed as an exchange instead of a constant you should leave. Wait, how could you not? Of course love should be exchanged and mutually shared. Would you remain in a relationship with someone who did not love you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Why so much hate for pick-mes?but what humans really weren’t for the majority of our existence The point being that women were relatively more vulnerable. So all this to say. Societies give men leverage. You are backwards and upside down. Again, the point of this is that the absence of society gives men even more leverage. When Rome's walls fell, when Berlin defenses gave to the Soviets, men gained the most leverage. Anytime you see a wide breakdown of society, you see men having gained more leverage, not less. Contrary to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Why so much hate for pick-mes?Why do you think that? A squirrel, a deer, a fly, and sloth can live in nature on their own, why do you think a primitive woman couldn’t, Sure it's theoretically possible to live on your own. However, in the aggregate, a partner who is stronger behooves your survival. There are no historical examples of female-only societies, because without male partners, they are too vulnerable to rape and conquest from outside their female-only clan. But sure, it is theoretically possible in an MCU-addled bra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Why so much hate for pick-mes?But by building societies and structures that give men power over resources You would need to partner with the stronger gender without societies and structures. I never really understood this argument. It implies that in the absence of society, you would not need to partner with a stronger person. For whatever reason, lots of left-leaning people claim that primitive societies were gender equal with the Dobe Bushmen being the most cited example.... Let's look at that claim through a tedpost: Much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:07 PM |
| 0 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.I am not sure your point? I am responding to the user's claim that he provided his wife "nothing." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 02:56 PM |
| 8 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.Okay, you didn't answer the question at all... My wife has been by my side when I was poor and had zero prospects (randomly fell into a decent job but no formal education) Your wife was by your side because you still provided her with something (maybe love? a sense of fulfillment? a boat?). I really don't believe you gave her nothing. She felt no good feelings from having you around? It's clear that your company made her feel good in some way, and therefore, you still provided her something. Onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 01:40 PM |
| – | What do redpillers say about attractive, successful women in long term relationships (without trading up constantly)?RP claims are about the natural tendency, not the absolute determination of what is going to happen. Humans choose against their natural tendencies all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 01:36 PM |
| 15 | When a girl says she loves you, what she loves is what you do for her, how you make her feel and the lifestyle she's able to participate in by being with you.How? If someone is with you, it's because you give them some kind of value in life. I don't see how it's possible for a person to give "nothing" and still have their SO stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Would you date an Onlyfans model or a woman in the Sex work industry?Sure why not? Date her for 3 hours who cares. We likely wouldn't be compatible, but she might be a good time. Bring her to the lake for a weekend, teach her how to wakeboard. Why not? Is she going to lower my credit score or rob me? If not, then sure, I'll date her for a weekend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 01:23 PM |
| 6 | Dunning–Kruger effect in action: Those who suggest that men who struggle with dating hire sex workers are the ones who know the least about itThe only way those professionals are even fun is if you know that you can slay outside of that context. There is little in-between in my experience. You either feel pathetic or you are having an extreme amount of fun with women who know how to professionally party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 06:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"I don’t think everyone on the left expects every person to defy gender. Like I said very clearly, I think there is an obvious bias on the left against advising gendered stereotypes. This is why dating advice, even standard advice, has a right wing bias. The difficultly stems from advising hetero dating norms without advising gender stereotypes, which I would argue is impossible. I think the left clearly does not want to advise gendered roles and stereotypes so they forfeit the hetero dating gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/23 11:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"SAHP for various reasons - one being that most people these days require two incomes simply to survive. I don't even think Tate promotes this, but I could be wrong, so I don't know what you are talking about specifically. I will never raise a daughter and instill the idea that her end goal in life should be marriage to a man I would raise a daughter with her best interests in mind. If she was a butch lesbian who wanted to play softball, I would do my best to put her into the best travel teams an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 08:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"I feel like it's a good impersonation lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 07:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"It really is besides the point. All that matters to the argument above is that he is very obviously considerably NOT left-wing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 06:41 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"You said when the default is the “other side”. If you have a problem acknowledging Tate is problematically right-wing, then I don't what to tell you. Where do we even start with that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 06:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"What are you even talking about? You're lost here. The argument is not that one side or the other produced anyone. The argument centers around why advice from people like Tate are considered the default. And again, people consider that advice the default from people like Tate, because other more moderate voices have abandoned the space. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 06:28 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"“Moderate liberals” since when do ideological sides need to put forward representatives to be role models? Who would be doing this? To be clear, nobody needs to do anything. But if you don't, then how can you be surprised when the default is the other side? You can't really be confused when the default is the other side when you refused to put a dog in the fight to begin with. As long as women find gender stereotypes attractive, you will always lose to the side that has no issue with perpetuatin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 06:20 PM |
| 18 | CMV : Its hypocrisy to hate on Andrew Tate and his Mindset, and then proceed to date a guy with a "Tate mindset"Why are generic male goals (hits the gym, successful, masculine etc).... It's the obvious result of the liberal left in ceasing to advise gender roles and stereotypes. You are effectively left with only people like Tate advising young boys to be masculine. Moderate liberals have ENITRELY abandoned advice for young men because although they know that advising gender stereotypes and roles is effectively the best advice, to actually advise those roles is incongruent with their ideology or just poli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 04:40 PM |
| 1 | How do you all have these PurplePillDebate conversations and not get depressed/triggered? Genuine question (New Here)For sure. I’m not questioning her for seeking help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 05:42 PM |
| 1 | How do you all have these PurplePillDebate conversations and not get depressed/triggered? Genuine question (New Here)She's just very politically obsessed about the state of global affairs, I guess. The only person who I ever met who has made the excuse "the state of the world" for why she enters bouts of self-isolation. I don't know why. Even they don't really know why lol that is why they are seeking therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 04:14 PM |
| 2 | How do you all have these PurplePillDebate conversations and not get depressed/triggered? Genuine question (New Here)My wife's friend who I will call Leah because that's her real name. I don't think it's extremely common or anything, but there are people who toil over world affairs to the point where they seek help about it because it is debilitating them. Lots of people allow things outside of their control to do this. I think with the rise of 24/7 news and social media, this is a more common mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 04:07 PM |
| -3 | How do you all have these PurplePillDebate conversations and not get depressed/triggered? Genuine question (New Here)noooo not someone challenging my isolationist mindset that I blame on Putin and global warming! It's all logical and makes total sense to isolate yourself in a bubble due to world affairs! I don't understand your logic, just explain it. It's such a foreign mindset to me. Do you think anyone who is successful, enjoyable to be around, and/or helps others less fortunate has this mindset? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 03:33 PM |
| 5 | How do you all have these PurplePillDebate conversations and not get depressed/triggered? Genuine question (New Here)Why should the war in Ukraine or any other world problem stop me from getting my boat ready for the summer? Is this a gen z thing to justify staying in a bubble because of unfortunate things in "the world?" The only people who cater to those who despair about "the state of the world" are gen z's therapists seeing dollar signs as they book 3 sessions a week to speak about "ugh what are we going to do about Putin." The fact that there are people who go to therapy 3 times a week to literally talk a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 03:23 PM |
| – | Are women's insecurities tolerated while men's are seen as problematic, a weakness, or demonized for being inherently toxic?Everyone has insecurities that are on them, and insecurities that are pushed onto them by others. I think people do a terrible job of emphasizing with the opposite sex when it comes to insecurities. Men understand the social value of female beauty but can't conceptualize it if they were a woman and often mock female insecurity. Similarly, woman will mock a man for being insecure when they would lose their shit if it was bizzaro world and nightclubs were full of women hotter than herself buying h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 04:00 PM |
| 9 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.when guys aren't willing to be completely honest and upfront I don't think this is as common as you are implying with this OP. Very rarely do I see guys who are unwilling to be honest about what they desire if they are indeed aware of what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 03:15 PM |
| 7 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.No, they can also be confused, pussies, or dumb. Right that is my point. But your OP states: when guys aren't willing to be completely honest and upfront So that is the issue I have with your OP. The idea that guys are not honest or upfront. It may look like that to women and men on the receiving end, but in my opinion it is just more likely for someone to just not know what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 02:49 PM |
| 14 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Anyways, it's asinine to think people “women can't give good advice on dating” when guys aren't willing to be completely honest and upfront about what they're trying to accomplish. Lots of young people just don't know what they want. Lots of people date to ascertain what they actually want. That is a very dangerous person but is ubiquitous in the dating world. The idea that people, men and women, are not "honest" about what they want assumes a level of malice that I don't think is common or at l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 02:38 PM |
| 4 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesfair1 adjective 1. impartial and just, without favoritism or discrimination. There is very clearly favoritism and discrimination in sexual selection. Can you give you the definition of 'fair' you are using? I really oppose a just system though, to be clear, but to say that nature is "just" is simply incorrect in my opinion. Lots of natural things are extremely unjust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 02:01 PM |
| 6 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesIt's not unfairness Lots of things in nature are "unfair" though. You haven't provided an argument why this is "not unfairness" you just moved the goalposts to the fact that the unfairness is natural. Of course it's "unfair," life is unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?No. You are saying that women are more vulnerable even if they're not weaker and smaller. No, incorrect. I clarified I was speaking in generalities. If the woman was 5,000 feet tall then she would be less vulnerable than men. If that helps you feel better lol Lots of radfems are correct in their premises, but then their prescriptions go off the rails. The premise that females (of many species of mammal) are more vulnerable is not controversial. Humans, like many mammals, are sexually dimorphic. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?It's..not..circular logic.. Women are more vulnerable because they are weaker and smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?We are speaking in generalities here, but anyway smaller refers to strength, not simply mass. Why is this even an argument for you? You know very well that women are more vulnerable than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?How do you know it was a lie and not him simply changing his mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:08 PM |
| 12 | Given we are living in an age of sexual liberation and mutual promiscuity; why is there still a narrative that men “use” woman for sex?Men have a way of completely divorcing the sexual function from all romantic feelings in a way that is incredibly foreign to womens’ experiences. Agreed. I also don't think the reality of the situation can ever be mentally equalized. The female role in sex is much more vulnerable than the male role. It's a much different dynamic to be the smaller gender being penetrated to the point where I am not sure women can ever act like men in this regard. The trust required to give consent to a man to do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 03:23 PM |
| 1 | How much do you relate to traditional gender roles?I always find this conversation interesting because of the massive difference in what people even consider to be "gender roles." I've come to the conclusion that this term also includes gender stereotypes as emulating stereotypes is playing a "role" in the play that is life. The difference in this answer from asking a typical woman this question and a transwoman or an actress prepping to play a man in a theatre play is extremely different and has made me widen my criteria for what are "gender ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?For a time, sure. Not necessarily 30 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Men want women who look promiscuous but don't actually act promiscousSounds like humans in general. We all like to think we are the main character of our own stories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 10:30 PM |
| 56 | The only reason the concept of the redpill is popular is because it actually gives tangible solutions.I think it’s more about why it produces results, not that it does. RP is effectively the only ideology to essentially tell young boys to man up. Blue pill advice will go to great lengths in avoiding advising gender roles and yet will acknowledge that we live in a patriarchy where women also have patriarchal standards. In their goal to avoid gender roles, BP will water down any advice to “well not every woman does” etc… which simply doesn’t address the issue when someone actually wants to produce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: What happens when you come across the virgin who won’t sleep with you casually or doing dating?When I was dating it didn't really matter who I dated, honestly. I would take just about any girl on a date as long as she was relatively attractive and not fat. I was constantly challenging my pre-conceived notions about my "type" or who my ideal person was. A large part of dating (that people fail to understand) is to find your type, not to find someone who fits what you think your type is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: What happens when you come across the virgin who won’t sleep with you casually or doing dating?Good for them? Your OP asked me too not only them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 06:03 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: What happens when you come across the virgin who won’t sleep with you casually or doing dating?Then 4 hours or 4 days, whatever makes you happy. Why wouldn't I date her? Is she going to kill me or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.Already did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I'm not going off what women are telling men. I can only go off of what the available scientific literature is on the subject. If women enjoyed visual stimulation as much as men, there would be similar amount of male strip clubs as there are female strip clubs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I agree that most visual porn is made for men. That is my point, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?I sure as shit don't stare at the trashcan for a whole 30 mins. But yeah, sometimes I go into the shower and clean up within a 30 min timeframe. Really depends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 05:24 PM |
| 4 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?For sure, online women are giving the least helpful advice and assuming the man is the most socially incompetent and making blanket statements. I honestly think women online are thinking and acting like they are actually talking to the homeless man on the subway catcalling other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.Still a minority according to the data I’ve seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?You literally have minutes to take it, and move it somewhere 15-30min... That doesn't make it an invalid concern. Women have been known to do this from a blowjob and not PIV sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.Yes, and they prefer narrative porn over visual forms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?Unless there's someone camping your trashcans 24/7, this is an invalid point. Edited the comment to delete inside the body stats and left the outside the body stats. Celebrity men do destroy their own sperm so random women don't steal it. Why is this an invalid concern? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:10 PM |
| 6 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I don't think raising your eyebrow implies some kind of claim of deep meaning. All that phrase means is a benign reaction that she is outside the norm of typical female porn habits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:09 PM |
| -2 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?I don't know what you really mean, but I don't think this common online woman narrative is "rooted" in sexism. The narrative that women are too fragile to handle being approached is simply sexist itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:08 PM |
| 0 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I don't think my comment claimed any deep meaning. The most common form of porn for women is romance novels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?Your sperm can live outside the body for up to 15 to 30 minutes in the right conditions. Why is that an "invalid" amount of time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Discussion: What happens when you come across the virgin who won’t sleep with you casually or doing dating?You date her? Who cares? Date her for 1 day or 2 weeks. These questions are always so strangely worded as if "dating" is some legally binding contract. "Would you ever date a girl who did XYZ?" Sure why not? Date her for 2 hours, who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:46 PM |
| 3 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I knew a girl like this too from my hometown too. She's a gigantic mess lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:45 PM |
| 3 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?Yes! It's also insanely sexist. It assumes women faint at just the idea of being asked out in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?I am asking you if you think stealing sperm from the trash can is a "natural consequence." You can get pregnant from stealing someone's sperm without having sex... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:26 PM |
| 5 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.I wouldn't describe you as very typical of women's porn habits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:22 PM |
| 5 | Should “trapping a man” count as rape by deceit ?of the natural consequences of this action Is stealing semen from trashed used condoms a "natural consequence?" Most famously, journalist Liz Jones, confessed in the Daily Mail to stealing her ex-partners’ sperm in an attempt to get pregnant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 78 | How are men supposed to even get a relationship nowadays?Stop listening to women about where you can meet other women. Women online will always default to what makes all women feel the safest at the expense of your happiness and will always presume you are some perverted ugly weirdo. And honestly, it's not unreasonable of them to. A guy who begs random internet women to approve his approach to other women gives off the image of a perverted ugly weirdo. Don't meet women at work Don't meet women at the gym Don't meet women on public transportation I hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:04 PM |
| 0 | Honest opinion about porn, sex, and relationships.Men who still view porn while in a relationship, do you care if your female partner looks at other men for their sexual gratification? I would raise an eyebrow towards any woman who views porn like a man does. Women don't cock worship like gay men do. Women are not gay men with vaginas. More commonly women read romance narratives as a sexual release, which I find more silly than some kind of breach of relationship exclusivity. We are all humans though. "Sexual gratification" outside of a relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Everyone man should make a dating profile as a moderately attractive Woman and see how you feel. You can see how desperate some men seem..If you're attractive this works well. Lots of women are on dating apps not for dates, but for sexting. Understandably, it's a safer and less vulnerable way to engage in hookup culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Are you more attracted to a "naturally" attractive man than the one who "learned" to become attractive?Negging is deliberate and intended to be manipulative. You're discussing hard negging vs soft negging. Think of this way.... treat every girl like you treat your friends bratty little sister. Tease them and treat them like they are just a hint below you. That doesn’t mean trying to hurt their self esteem but you can tease them enough that they don’t feel like the hot girl everyone caters to. Don't pick on personal attributes but clothes, and mannerisms are open game. And girls will play this fun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 08:32 PM |
| 5 | Men Are Hornier than Women (Effortpost Version)So now you agree with OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Are you more attracted to a "naturally" attractive man than the one who "learned" to become attractive?Is wearing makeup an attempt to deliberately harm another person's self image, the way negging is? It's also called teasing. Socially inept people need words and phrases for these things so it makes sense to them. Why teasing works is because you are not bending over backwards all the time and putting someone on a pedestal. It shows social adaptiveness away from constant worship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Are you more attracted to a "naturally" attractive man than the one who "learned" to become attractive?Naturally for sure. The learned behavior is off putting Do you think people are born with social acuity? All social skills are learned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Are you more attracted to a "naturally" attractive man than the one who "learned" to become attractive?This is a weird way to look at things. The "natural guy" learned social skills like any other person does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 03:53 PM |
| 2 | What would happen if women lowered their standards?People lower their standards as they age as it is. Men lower their physical standards for sex and women lower their standards for income and physical attractiveness as well. I think that in these discussions attitude adjustments in favor of compatibility are conflated with "lowering ones standards" or settling. It's more about mindset than anything else, really. If a person lowers their income/physical attraction standards to find a partner more emotionally, financial and life-goal compatible, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/23 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Translation, part II (rape fantasies)Monday I will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 08:56 PM |
| 6 | Translation, part II (rape fantasies)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFSrxSBrgSc According to this sex researcher, there is about a 60/40 disparity - meaning 60% of women strongly fantasize about being submissive while only 40% of men strongly fantasize about being dominant. The rest of the percentages vary in strength of dominant and submissive desires, but there is a pretty wide disparity here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to menI think that it’s more common for men to be flippant and change their mind easily, in addition to not knowing what they want. The men and women I know who are casually dating are not so much lying to all their partners but just don’t really know what they want to begin with. Part of dating is figuring that out and also part of not knowing is probably internal to them for whatever reason. To the outside eye, I can see how it can be easily misconstrued as someone “lying” and sure this happens, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV Since Western Europe Man have a way tougher Competition, they dominate when they go to Eastern Europe.I was thinking it was short for juggalo. For a second there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/23 03:04 AM |
| 2 | CMV Since Western Europe Man have a way tougher Competition, they dominate when they go to Eastern Europe.What’s a jugo person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Telling men to stop associating their self-wroth with sexual success is like telling women to stop feeling like they have to be beautiful.Sure but again, from my experience professional men don't say crass things like that. The respect is unspoken or if it is spoken, it is more along the lines of "you're a lucky man" sort of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | a quiz on why you're singleSome true red pill advice! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Telling men to stop associating their self-wroth with sexual success is like telling women to stop feeling like they have to be beautiful.I don't respect people just for having good-looking partners. I don't think this is about you though? I'm sure there are studies that suggest this phenomena is real if you really want me to go look for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Telling men to stop associating their self-wroth with sexual success is like telling women to stop feeling like they have to be beautiful.That’s more youth and urban culture but the professional version is simply being more respected as a man with a beautiful partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.Never mind, it doesn't appear from your comment history that you are capable of conversations beyond one word answers lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.How about respond and speak your mind and have a convo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.Or just elaborate beyond a yikes poster | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.Don’t just yikes post, debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 07:34 PM |
| 2 | "Men are allowed to have preferences, just don't be rude about it" Is A LieHas nobody ever asked you your type? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 10:35 PM |
| 8 | "Men are allowed to have preferences, just don't be rude about it" Is A LieIsn't this what some people say to LGBT when they are shamed for their preferences? In so far as much as social shaming matters, then why not discuss it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 06:49 PM |
| 3 | AF/BB is definitely a mythIt's not really MY definition though but I understand why you'd disagree with it lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:53 PM |
| 3 | AF/BB is definitely a mythThe whore is not literally promiscuous, but can be. It's a little bit of a misnomer. The king's concubine were not literal whores, nor did they sleep with anyone but the king, but they were his whores nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.It's a significantly fewer amount of women though to the point where it's a rounding error to zero. I would love to see a social experiment where I tried to get my gay male friend to get laid by a girl. See how long it would take him if he ever could lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:47 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB is definitely a mythIn my opinion, given the most ideal circumstances, men would choose the option in which they would sleep with the whores for fun and sleep with and impregnate the wife for love and companionship and legacy. I don't think it's a coincidence that the kings of entirely separated civilizations practiced this mating strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.however women not being attracted to feminine men is a lie. We are talking about attraction at the end of the day though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.You people use sex and dating interchanablely to mean the same things, which they don't. Casual dating is different than serious dating. People on OLD often specify this and often state what they are looking for, and yet they are still both considered "dating." Your investment in the probability of a gay acting man getting a blowjob in a heterosexual gloryhole from the middle of nowhere, has no relevance to anything I've commented thus far. That's not true at all. If your comment was true, then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.Marriage is literally the definition of the most successful dating outcome. For you perhaps, but why are you trying to define what is success to someone who wants to casually date? Even in Cali or NYC, the men who get laid the most do not act like a gay male twinks. You must see this, right? Do you know any of these men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:25 PM |
| 6 | AF/BB is definitely a mythI am arguing against the idea that alphas don’t have to work for it. AF/BB is definitely a myth Explain the title of your OP Who are you arguing against though? The entire RP philosophy is predicated on working for it, going to the gym every day, getting better clothing and style, better haircut, better hobbies (no video games). To some "alphas" it comes more naturally, but these guys are in the gym or on the BJJ mats basically every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.And you really think these men would have the same exact success rates in dating compared to masculine men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.however women not being attracted to feminine men is a lie. Do you think a masculine man and a straight man who acted like a gay male twink would have the same success with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 05:06 PM |
| 7 | AF/BB is definitely a mythThe alpha has merely beat the competition by being better than other men in some way Sure again, arguing against yourself by implying AFBB exists. the beta lacks in these things so he has to compensate in some other way like he has to be nicer Or like you said, train hard and become alpha. Again, arguing against your own OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:59 PM |
| 9 | AF/BB is definitely a mythSure but every man can’t be alpha by definition. Again, arguing against yourself. At first you say that AFBB doesn't exist and is a myth and in the next sentence, you say that not everybody can be alpha. Your mind is all over the place. Take a stand on something and debate it. This flim flam shit is like playing debate whack a mole. That all being said, yeah not everyone can be alpha. Luckily for young modern men, the median income is around $60K and the median BMI is 28ish. If you work hard and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:58 PM |
| 10 | AF/BB is definitely a mythmeeting but a man who isn’t any of that pays for a date to get with her how did she demand less of the former guy? The one complaining about paying for dates can always become a star athlete too to get women — oh wait that would be really hard for most guys. Seems like you are arguing against yourself here? You are simply implying the BB should work towards becoming AF. Which is not a claim that it is a myth, but a claim that BB should work towards AF. It's like you are giving red standard pill … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:47 PM |
| 7 | Femininity is undervalued in society, and ironically progressive people (especially women) contribute a lot to that.It's very difficult to be timid and shy like that and yet still succeed in life alone. It's not even "capitalism" that is to blame. You'd find it harder to survive if you lived like that in the wild, alone. But you are looking at femininity in a vacuum here. In reality, there is a masculine counterpart. It's really only valuable because of the masculine counterpart. Went to this guy's beautiful mansion over the weekend to look at a boat he had for sale. His wife so was so kind and feminine. It w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:43 PM |
| 0 | Women's failed relationships and dating abhorrent men proves women's "intuition" is bullshitI disagree and think when women sit down and think, they know deep down that their situationship is a lie and will never turn into anything serious as they desire. I think they are fully aware of this and are afraid to define the relationship because they are afraid of the answer the guy is going to give them. I don't think there is a massive amount of men running around hoodwinking women into situationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Why won’t my situationship commit to me?her profile looks legit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 02:23 PM |
| 5 | Women approach vs Men approachMany of the women I dated who I had great relationships with I've met in these feminists no-no zones. As long as you have the social skills it is fine. It's not like you should walk up to her and ask for her number immediately. It's a social game of opportunity. Did she pick up something from the shelf you were thinking about buying? Ask her if it's any good and you've always wanted to try it. Hell, it's not even about scoring a win there. That could be the end of the interaction but you've plan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 04:56 AM |
| – | Women are completely right to be wary of men in the modern age.It's less about community in the small village-like sense of the word and more about family. Familiar ties were stronger, larger and more controlling over their sons and daughters marriage and romances to maintain social standing and decrease the risk of unwanted pregnancy. You did not want your son to knock some wench, so you shamed them into relative chasteness. If your son did knock someone up, her father would demand a wedding (shotgun weddings). Families were larger and more controlling tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/23 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Would you date a meth addict?Why not? Just date her for two hours for the lols. I've dated lots of people I knew would never work out long term. Dating does not have to be only for marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | The bahaviors we often critisized with "women ☕" are infact NOT women behavior, but the behavior of a spoiled person. And the Men equavilent of this are the career criminals. They are not nessesarily gender specific but rather formed by sociaty's different treatment to men and women.I think parents are more likely to spoil their daughter than their son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 03:36 AM |
| 10 | Men who want to move abroad to find love - why?The study reveals a sizable gender gap in labor productivity, with women-run businesses being about 11 percent less productive than men-run businesses https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/exploring-labor-productivity-gap-between-businesses-run-women-and-men#:~:text=The%20study%20reveals%20a%20sizable,productive%20than%20men%2Drun%20businesses. Women are about 2-10% less productive than men. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222676151_Are_female_workers_less_productive_than_male_wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 08:10 PM |
| 4 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysWe have different experiences, that is okay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:59 PM |
| 2 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysWhat you are saying is instantly proven false as there is a massive and very obvious difference in how many women are attracted to gay male twinks vs. masculine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:58 PM |
| 2 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysAgain, that doesn't necessarily make you afraid though. Make more sense. At best the guy can’t provide Women still want these things.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:50 PM |
| 1 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysLife is harsh. What "active behaviors" were you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:45 PM |
| 0 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysnot just "presence" yeah? It's both. A midget doing the same behaviors would be comical. It's presence because it is the combo of physical presentation and active behaviors. presence was intimidating to women why would most prefer taller men? Again, most girls grow out of this... Men are an interesting dynamic to women because pre-pubescent women are and should be naturally afraid of men unlike they are women in addition to (typically) not being caregivers like their mother is When girls sexuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:35 PM |
| 3 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysHonestly, raw physical power and presence. Women tend to be more shy and reserved, especially as young girls (I can link you fifteen thousands studies on that, so please save me the time and don't ask). https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1131795.pdf I think confidence mixed with physical strength can be very intimidating especially to young girls. It's not so much they are terrified like a wolf is chasing them, they are more intimidated, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:28 PM |
| 4 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysFrom talking to women in my life, yes it does. They admit their obsession with feminine men as young girls is because masculinity legit scared them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:25 PM |
| 7 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysMake your comment make sense. Why would not needing something make you scared of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:24 PM |
| 12 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysI think this just boils down to the fact that young girls feel intimidated by masculinity to where it legit scares them. Most girls grow out of this stage, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Should Female-Only Social Media Spaces for Lesbian and Bisexual Women be Supported?Where did I claim there should be one? What is your point here and why are you agreeing with me so strangely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Should Female-Only Social Media Spaces for Lesbian and Bisexual Women be Supported?Okay… So why are you objecting to my point above? I don’t understand your angle besides clearly wanting to type lol just say you agree and move on lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Should Female-Only Social Media Spaces for Lesbian and Bisexual Women be Supported??? Are you not reading my comments lol that is my point. There is no litmus test for womanhood besides claiming you are a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Should Female-Only Social Media Spaces for Lesbian and Bisexual Women be Supported?What test do you have to pass to become a “woman” besides identifying as one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover women? what do you mean yes? So now you agree that it is important for a nation that working age people are not useless? You've moved the goalposts to why they are becoming useless. We can talk about that in a second, don't get distracted again or I'm going to send you an economics textbook on demographics and education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 03:05 PM |
| 3 | Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover womenThe big issue is many red pill men will threaten to not be useful to society if they aren’t gifted a woman Sounds like blackpill. Red pill men threaten to hedonistically engage in the debauchery of societal decline. "Enjoy the decline" and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 02:37 PM |
| 4 | Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover women? This has everything to do with the real world. The demographic collapse of the young working class has massive implications for nations. Nations all around the world invest billions into education so that their young population is not useless. It's a primary responsibility for much of the government. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 02:34 PM |
| 7 | Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover womenNot sure what you are trying to say here? There is no economic system that can survive if your working age population is useless. Imagine a commune with 1,000 people. If 500 workers are useless and 500 are retirees, then you have nobody supporting the retirees with labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 02:18 PM |
| 5 | Leftover men are still more useful to society than leftover womenNobody needs to be "useful" Not true? Nations would collapse if everyone became useless. Young workers fund social services. All nations actually need most people to be useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | An example of what men are experiencing, and what kind of information men are digesting.I think it is a lot like how various women are uncharacteristically slutty on vacation. It gives them an excuse to let go. The most interesting thing about this to me is the reluctance to admit the dynamic to a non-familiar man, but women seem to talk to each other about it so freely. The shit my female friends have told me over the years confirms so much and yet it's all wrapped in tee-hee femininity that it is more easily digestible to them. RP vernacular and concepts are often blunt, harsh an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 02:03 PM |
| 3 | Should Female-Only Social Media Spaces for Lesbian and Bisexual Women be Supported?Sure but that ship has sailed I think. Anyone can identify as a woman and be a woman. There is no litmus test for womanhood anymore besides claiming you are one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 12:44 PM |
| 1 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Stop fighting it. The findings are replicable in other mammals as well: https://medicine.iu.edu/news/2021/07/researchers-study-anxiety-differences-between-females-and-males In one of the behavioral tasks, rodents had to grab pellets of food which were in the brightly lit center of a big arena. Rats don’t like the light, so this creates an anxious conflict. In this task, female rats took longer to touch the food and ate less food relative to males. The researchers also gave the rodents diazepam—a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.I don’t think it’s the ONLY factor alone to be clear. And no it’s not definitive, it’s simply the leading theory or consensus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 01:16 PM |
| 2 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.You can look it up yourself. Hormones are the consensus theory. I really don’t care if you don’t want to research it. https://vpfw.com/blog/why-women-worry-how-hormones-affect-anxiety-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20specific%20hormones,such%20as%20cortisol%20and%20adrenaline. https://www.talkspace.com/mental-health/conditions/articles/anxiety-hormones-connection/#:~:text=Progesterone%2C%20the%20female%20sex%20hormone,and%20may%20trigger%20your%20anxiety. https://news.harva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 06:14 AM |
| 1 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.It COULD be aliens, sure. We are talking about the scientific consensus here. But yeah, the reasons are still unclear however the conclusion is still the same. This inclination for bloops to believe blank slate pseudoscience needs to die, really. It’s just annoying at this point and largely discredited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 05:56 AM |
| 5 | 60% of young men are not chronically single because they "lack emotional skills"Depends on the woman as well. Many of my exes I met in no-no feminist zones like gyms, workplaces, even once when sharing a taxi after the subway broke down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 09:19 PM |
| 8 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Who do you think this feminist theory is fooling? Not the scientists for sure. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3939970/ Even when studying men and women at random, women have worse anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 09:07 PM |
| 6 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.You're the one deliberately misinterpreting the data. Until the University of Cambridge accepts your theory, I am going to side with the scientists on this one, sorry silly bear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 09:00 PM |
| 8 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Women are more likely to be diagnosed with these disorders; not more susceptible. No, its pretty clear from the studies that women are more susceptible even when factoring mental health treatment. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135672/ https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/discussion/opinion-women-are-far-more-anxious-than-men-heres-the-science#:~:text=But%20why%20are%20women%20more,have%20been%20linked%20to%20anxiety. The scientific consensus currently is: But why are women more likely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 08:52 PM |
| 1 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Not sure my comment about suicide was addressing the female population specifically. In fact, it addresses both men and women. Agreed though, the rate of suicide in young men have skyrocketed. Quite interesting that young men seem to be getting worse despite being largely implementing progressive youth culture that gender roles are bad for mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 08:49 PM |
| 2 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Well yeah, consider that red pill believes it is the flip side of the coin to regular female strategies. So RP talks about one side of the coin, but you could easily just flip it around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 07:11 PM |
| 30 | 60% of young men are not chronically single because they "lack emotional skills"I am happy for you but witnessed women aghast that a man she deemed under her league had the audacity to approach her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 05:00 PM |
| 14 | The widespread research declaring that women are happier single has long been retracted and refuted by experts as well as the original researcher.Women are more susceptible to various anxiety disorders and depression. It's really becoming a national crisis. In high schools, the survey found that more students have seriously considered attempting suicide than a decade ago, jumping from 14.2 percent in 2009 to 22.7 percent in 2019. More students have also attempted suicide, climbing from 10 percent to 18.9 percent. Youth suicide attempts have been skyrocketing as more people are online than ever before which only fakes social interaction wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 04:53 PM |
| 6 | Most women sexually desire the same small percentage of men the most, based on the data. But most women aren’t dating those same few men. Does that mean most women are settling in their relationships for men they don’t find sexually desirable?It is a loaded term indeed. I think most people adjust their expectations as they get older. To an outsider, that might be "settling" but you can't expect some super model or millionaire your entire life and expect to find fulfillment. So yeah, agreed, it really depends on your mindset. People will naturally adjust their wants, desires, and needs to something more feasible. Many people consider that "telling women to settle" but that is such a hyperbolic and myopic view of what many men and wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/23 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Only a tiny amount of the young male vs female relationship difference is explained by lgbtq womenKinda not really? When you were “courting” a woman, it was understood that you were not writing to various different women but one in particular. Situationship is more ambiguous than courting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you rather be single or in a horrible relationship?I understand what you are saying. I had different experiences though. Was probably forgiving and kind to a fault. I generally gave people chances if they expressed interest, allowing red flags to be forgiven too easily. but...it worked out for me in the end! Honestly, those horrible people allowed me to find my boundaries, this sub, and competing ideologies that have helped me immensely in life and have made me a better partner. I'm not sure another another path would have worked as well. In an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: would you rather be single or in a horrible relationship?I wish that was the case. Most people are horrible and make horrible partners in my opinion. Ever date a girl who doesn’t go to the gym? Absolutely horrifying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: would you rather be single or in a horrible relationship?Indefinitely? No. In practicality, yes. What is dating if not a series of horrible relationships until you find a good one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Statistics on single women buying properties on their ownIt’s pretty well known that young women out earn young men. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/03/28/young-women-are-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20in%2022%20of,analysis%20of%20Census%20Bureau%20data. The wage gap has always been a weak interpretation of the data. It’s very apparent that young men are falling behind and are unmotivated. This is partly why you are seeing the rise of manosphere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/23 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Why is sexual exclusivity important to you?Landchad spotted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 05:38 PM |
| 10 | Why is sexual exclusivity important to you?The time she spent doing that she could sexting or calling me instead, so yes. It inherently shows she would rather be spending time with someone else instead of building our relationship stronger. The exclusivity and commitment of having and knowing someone is fully and wholly committed to you is comforting. It means you can trust that person more to always be there for you. It means you were specifically chosen and not just a drop in a bucket. And to fair I don't think it's inherently impossib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 04:53 PM |
| 14 | Why is sexual exclusivity important to you?why is monogamy important to you, if it is? I think it shows that you are fully invested in someone, emotionally, physically and sexually. Sharing that emotional or physical attention with someone else means you are paying less amount of attention and affection towards me. That's just math. I think poly relationships are so unstable because the people are not wholly committed. I think there tends to be a greater effort towards a common future when you are wholly committed to a person. I don't do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Is the gender war real?There is nothing wrong with using someone for sex as long as they consent to being used. Bragging about having sex and having anyone love you or fuck you is distasteful and socially inept but not necessarily sexist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Is the gender war real?It really depends on who your friends are. Successful people in quality relationships don't tend to have gender war beliefs. They will recognize there is something amiss about gender dynamics today but it is kind of pushed to the background of their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 02:54 PM |
| 2 | AI personal assistants will soon come to dating apps like Grindr and TinderAgreed. Soon, men will use chatbots for their online dating profiles. The AI will scrub the social media and tailor messages to their likes, humor. Also women may no longer read erotica if a chatbot can formulate the same thing but tailored to their individual tastes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill believes in a concept called Hypergamy - the idea that women are biologically or naturally inclined to pursue men of higher status than themselves. Yet, statistics show that almost 40% of women earn more than their husbands. This proves Hypergamy is a myth and TRP at its core is a shamYour logic is fallacious. Men marry old fat women all the time and I would still argue that they are intrinsically attracted to youth and fitness. Humans make choices that don’t match our intrinsic needs or due to basic trade offs regularly. It’s part of being human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 12:43 AM |
| 7 | AI personal assistants will soon come to dating apps like Grindr and Tinderhttps://www.reddit.com/r/replika/comments/10zuqq6/resources_if_youre_struggling/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Too late. Already a thing. These Redditors are complaining that the inventor of this AI chatbot has implemented a filter that prevents NSFW roleplaying. I have been invested in the industry for a while now and follow these memes and trends lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 11:34 PM |
| 4 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"It’s not the old people you have to worry about. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/nearly-1-million-french-march-in-4th-day-of-national-protests-against-pension-changes It’s the remaining young ones who know they are fucked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 07:13 PM |
| 5 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"What do you mean? Empires for centuries have risen and fallen due to demographics. The world will not go into the night calmly as you cut their social benefits. You will start to see massive social upheaval. But yes, you are correct I think. There will be a massive shift towards de-industrialization as cities can no longer support themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:42 PM |
| 8 | The officially published and recirculated data on female breadwinners is not only wrong but also deliberately misleading.It's always a little strange to me that these studies present the term "breadwinner" defined as someone making any dollar amount above the other spouse. I bet many of these female breadwinner couples are a guy making $48K and the woman making $55K. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 05:10 PM |
| 5 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"Retirement, at least where I live, is based off of what you pay into it. No it is not. There is no country currently existing where social retirement benefits (incl. health and cash benefits) are entirely funded by those who contributed. There is not enough money to do that. Currently, these benefits are funded by working adults via payroll tax people simply won’t retire. How do you suspect this will look? People working in their 90s? Literally people working until they drop dead? Help me visual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:47 PM |
| 8 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"I wish you were the king some kingdom so you could simply cut all social security and retirement benefits just so you could witness the massive social upheaval, revolution and misery you would cause. Just never retire bro, just work into your 90's bro. Health benefits into old age? Pshh who needs that. Just don't retire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:36 PM |
| 0 | I am glad that I discovered red pill and I regret that I didn't discover it earlier in my early 20s.My point regarding hypergamy is that it is simply not a natural inclination in some of us. Again, it may or may not, but the simple fact that humans choose to stay with their old, fat wives or egalitarian relationships is not an argument that it is not a natural inclination. Try a different argument that is not a logical fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:13 PM |
| 20 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"Upside-down demographic pyramids are a massive liability to a nation. There is no system in the world that can handle only having 10 working adults supporting 90 retirees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:03 PM |
| 3 | I am glad that I discovered red pill and I regret that I didn't discover it earlier in my early 20s.doesn't mean he wouldn't have sex with a hot woman if he could get the attention of one. Nobody is arguing that he wouldn't have sex with his wife. Simple fact of the matter is that he is still superiorly attracted to fit, young, women. It's like you don't understand the argument here. Men choose life marriage for practical reasons, reasons of love and mate bonding etc... just like women choose egalitarian relationships for the same way. The idea that because men choose marriage means they are n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 03:42 PM |
| 13 | I am glad that I discovered red pill and I regret that I didn't discover it earlier in my early 20s.I'd say maybe, at the most, about 60% of women are hypergamous. Otherwise we would not see any women who are egalitarian, or women who date/marry unemployed men That is like saying that men are not attracted to young, fit, beautiful women because their wives are often fat, old and ugly. What we do is often not necessarily matched by our inherent desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 02:35 PM |
| – | 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age groupI know a few girls like this. They say they are not single and yet the guy they are seeing says he is single. It's actually quite sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 03:44 PM |
| – | Why is sex framed as something a woman “gives” and a man “takes”?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QZnwKqopo Honestly I think it is replicable in nature and everywhere you look. The male of the species does a little dance and must impress the female. Now that is obviously incredibly simplistic when it comes to humans but I think it rings generally true. Sure there are some girls out there on the prowl especially if the man is rich or famous, but generally speaking, men will "take" the chance and shoot his shot and women gives it or leaves it. As long as there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Many female users here claim that they commonly see "attractive" women dating "less attractive" men. Does makeup explain this?She was a very pretty girl minus the scarring. Had untreated OCD as a young girl and constantly picked at her face. She had a lot going on mentally and I was also not in a good place. We used to do a lot of cocaine together and not fuck lol Hope she’s doing okay but no I didn’t think she was out of my league. For lack of better words she destroyed her own face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 02:02 PM |
| 10 | Many female users here claim that they commonly see "attractive" women dating "less attractive" men. Does makeup explain this?Hard disagree. Dated a girl who covered up very deep acne scars with makeup and did it effectively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 05:28 AM |
| 3 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manYeah agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:53 PM |
| 7 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manYeah, well now I see where that is coming from then lol But is that not the rub? You are defining words differently than the entire population does, feminists included (when describing toxic masculinity). What did that trans youtuber say? I'm paraphrasing but you are free to pursue your pointless task of trying to erase gender. Your pursuit is 100% valid and pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manIf I was, that would simply mean I am attracted to certain traditional traits of masculinity. Again, you can't have it both ways. Women fight and some are closed off too. If the above is not masculine, then fighting, being emotionally closed off etc..., are not "toxically masculine" either, they are just bad traits on anyone. You can't have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:30 PM |
| 3 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manThose aren't "masculine" traits though, they're attractive on anyone. They are what society deems masculine. You're just trying to reinvent what the word means. If the above is not masculine, then fighting, being emotionally closed off etc..., are not "toxically masculine" either, they are just bad traits on anyone. You can't have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manIt's not necessarily negative, it's just synonymous with lots of negative words like creepy, awful, eerie, haunting or strange. From the context you used it, you were using it synonymously with 'strange' which is still a statement of social validity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manYou should read it if you are interested in geopolitical and economic predictions due to demographic collapse. It's going to be a strange few decades indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manThanks for the correction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manIn my opinion, it's not only the basis of human sexuality but the basis of gender as a concept - which is why you see some gay men identify and project the opposite gendered traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manI'm reading peter zeihan's new book about China's depopulation and coming deglobaliziation. I know he is a sky is falling doomer meme but I find his perspective compelling if only to be used as a worse case scenario prediction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manI'm not all over the place, you just aren't following the conversation. If you don't understand what's being said, I don't see the point in continuing this conversation. You are indeed all over the place. This isn't a Red Pill discussion. Sounds like you can't follow the conversation. If you don't believe that a cultural narrative of male superiority over women doesn't exist in America, then there's no point in this conversation. This is irrelevant to the idea that women in general still prefer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manYou are all over the place. American gender stereotypes is that males are inherently superior to women. Superior in what way? Certainly not superior in making a baby or nurturing. Being male dominate behavior over women to make them feel small. Yes, women do like to feel small. It's about using gender expectations and stereotypes to attract all women. Correct, again, if we live in a patriarchy with patriarchal standards, then heterosexual dating norms and preferences will follow those trends gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manThe discourse in these manosphere spaces is that men are inherently superior to women, irrespective of what women have accomplished individually or what the woman's social standing is. Okay? That has nothing to do with the fact that red pill advises improvement while black pill and MGTOW advise dropping out or "socially regressing" as you call it. Men are saying amongst themselves that they're inherently superior to women and that they don't need to earn more or be more educated than women to ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:44 PM |
| 6 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manMen are attempting to socially regress Some men like MGTOW or incels socially regress for sure. While others strive for general patriarchal standards of success. The trend of men doubling down on gendered stereotypes doesn't seem to be popular among the majority of women. Like men being breadwinners, physically and mentally strong? We just disagree here. As more men drop out of society (or socially regress), the men who are attractive and have their shit together become more relatively attractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:31 PM |
| 33 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manHow many adult women say they want to "feel small"? I have found this to be common from women on all ends of the political spectrum. I remember specifically a girl I briefly dated in college saying how broad my shoulders were and describing how it made her feel small. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Men don't build eachother up when it comes to dating, as a result most of the complaints by red pillers/incels/MGTOWs may as well get de-legitmizedFor sure, but this circles back to the problem of lefty dating advice. It can't really be feminist approved if you are advocating and suggesting to employ the very things you are philosophically against. "You're perfect the way you are" is far more congruent with feminism as a philosophy or set of principles. And I don't think this is even an extreme anymore. This has become a mainstream mentally for women or at least it has risen in popularity recently to where I don't really consider it some f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manIsn't that generally true for everyone? If we live in a patriarchy with patriarchal standards, then I'm not sure it's so individual. I feel like the left talks out both sides of their mouth on this. On one hand they make sweeping generalizations about gendered beauty standards in society, then in the next breath they spout that everyone is an individual. Also, gender roles are not about merely becoming a walking stereotype. Asking her out on the date, making the first move, paying for dinner, br… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Men don't build eachother up when it comes to dating, as a result most of the complaints by red pillers/incels/MGTOWs may as well get de-legitmizedand live better lives It's just statistically true that you live a better life when you are attractive. Even if you change the scope of changing yourself because attractive people live better lives (make more money, have more sex, have more and more stable relationships), that is still deemed problematic and not really approved messaging for women today. That advice is effectively changing yourself to conform to the patriarchy. While feminists would argue that women are free to do so, actually a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:14 PM |
| 19 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manThis is true and why women on the left struggle to give formulaic and actionable dating advice for men. All good and actionable dating advice for men will essentially advocate a gender role. So it’s cognitively difficult for lefty women to advise gender roles while maintaining the feminist approved opinions on them. I think this is why you see female advice like “just be yourself” and “treat her like a human.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:09 PM |
| 9 | Men don't build eachother up when it comes to dating, as a result most of the complaints by red pillers/incels/MGTOWs may as well get de-legitmizedYeah I get it. I think the issue of the female extreme is that any suggestion that you have to change for men is problematic. While that’s not really the attitude men have towards self improvement. And also, this attitude is becoming mainstream or at least more mainstream and I think is hurting women relatively more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 03:01 PM |
| 9 | Men don't build eachother up when it comes to dating, as a result most of the complaints by red pillers/incels/MGTOWs may as well get de-legitmizedFor sure any extreme is bad and requires balance but at least one advises doing something about it while the other claims you’re perfect the way you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Is It Ever OK To Romantically Approach A Woman On An Online VideogameWhy not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 02:54 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeThe point being that non-police accusations do happen quite frequently. Furthermore, social media or other online accusations do have consequences as evidenced by the past few years. So… we really don’t know the extent of false accusations. In fact, it’s actually impossible to quantify I’d say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 04:49 AM |
| 4 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeFirstly, there isn't any evidence that the rates of FA would be much higher than 2-10%. I can make a twitter bot that tweets a false accusation a trillion times a day, making the vast majority of rape accusations false. There is no sense in attempting to put a number to the amount of false accusations. It's impossible and likely that most are inconclusive or false. During the height of metoo and gamergate it was common for certain journalists to receive thousands of tweet replies daily (falsely)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 02:49 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeFalse rape accusations are not “statically” rare, whatever that means. No amount of data you can present makes that case because the vast majority of rape cases end without a conviction. Therefore some amount were true and some amount were false. Also, you could ostensibly create a social media bot that levies random false accusations by the millions per day, instantly making the vast majority of all accusations false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 02:17 PM |
| 2 | You wake up a different gender!Damn bro what's your PR? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 07:25 PM |
| 4 | You wake up a different gender!According to the current definition of "gender", you can change your gender an infinite amount of times per day and without identifying outwardly as such. Between when I started writing this comment and ended it, I already changed my gender 3,000 times. Nothing outwardly has changed though. Also, you can change your gender without transitioning, so from an outside perspective, nothing has changed nor has to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | On single categories women and men are alien to each other, but on general they are similar if you zoom outYes it’s different lol I flirt with my dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 12:29 AM |
| 1 | On single categories women and men are alien to each other, but on general they are similar if you zoom outKind of not really. Basically treat most people as similar to yourself or the people you know, and more often than not you'll find something cool about them. The difference between how I treat my mom when we go out to dinner compared to a first date or my fiancé or my wife is massive despite the fact that they have similar DNA. The differences are so stark because our brains focus on them, but more so because we try to formulate our social outcomes based on these differences. (Talk about footbal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 09:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.If you’re not red pill what are you? There are blue pill, red pill, pink, black and purple pill users on this sub. So no one’s saying these women love these men by virtue of them being awesome Link me to this. I'd like to see it because I would also argue against them if that is what is being said. I don’t know why y’all do it but this whole “ I’m getting a foreign bride!’ Let them be happy. Who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 06:27 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.because she just saw what no one else could. I don't think anyone is saying that. Can you link me to where this is being said? They’re willing to be what these men desire them to be because it’s an exchange. I don't think anyone is denying this. However, all relationships are an exchange. Relationships are foundationally an exchange for companionship. ‘gotcha’ no one cares. Idk you seem to care a lot, tbh or at least you are doing a poor job of convincing me you don't care. Can you give me some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 05:48 PM |
| 5 | Cop Orgy Controversy WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI just love how she looks like the quintessential insecure frumpy promiscuous looking girl. If this story was a book, I could not cast a better actor to play this woman in the movie adaptation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:40 PM |
| 3 | Cop Orgy Controversy WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADYeah, it's not a big deal. Happens a lot in the military too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | On single categories women and men are alien to each other, but on general they are similar if you zoom outThis advice is for people that quickly make a judgement that someone like their boss Well your argument has boiled down to "this works if you are socially inept." Which is much different than the OP or what you first response with. so different and unrelatable I don't think understanding our differences makes us unrelatable. would be very different from their mother They have very different goals and dynamics with yourself and therefore require different strategies to form relationships with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:37 PM |
| 2 | On single categories women and men are alien to each other, but on general they are similar if you zoom outEspecially if they're older than you, they may want to take care of you, and "raise" you career wise. This advice goes fine without the comparison to my mother though. The issue is that this goes without being said... I know my boss is a human. Maybe he is an individual that is nurturing or maybe he is an asshole. You could even compare him to an ape, which he is 98.8% alike genetically. It's just not very helpful? If the boss is nurturing then you need to take advantage of that. If he is an ass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:14 PM |
| 7 | On single categories women and men are alien to each other, but on general they are similar if you zoom outWe only really care about differences because that is all that really matters. I don't really care that my mother and my boss are 99.99% biologically identical. All human beings are 99.9 percent identical in their genetic makeup. Knowing this, how does that help me in my career? Telling me that my mother and my boss are 99.9% identical is useless information for me to excel in my career. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 03:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.Would be insightful to see a breakdown of religious leanings in men who marry foreign women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 03:27 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.There are certainly cultural differences in women from other countries especially considering the religious stance many of these women have. To act like they are no different from western promiscuous women, who are often non-religious, is disingenuous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.I literally can’t find a single red pill thread where they are talking about wolves in relation to “alpha.” Red pill is nearly entirely concerned with evo psych and therefore are exclusively talking about primates. So please, link me this thread where they are comparing humans to wolves. If it’s so numerous, you surely can find one. I found three talking about primates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3algk0/lessons_from_evolutionary_psychology_traits_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/39p3dl/lots_of_rp_knowledge_in_this_study_on_gorillas/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/34675k/alpha_male_strategies_we_can_learn_a_lot_from_our/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 04:40 AM |
| 0 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.Link me this talk about wolves. I’ve only seen them talk about chimp hierarchies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | "Why I Went Looking For A Wife Overseas": A happy relationship between a Western man and a non-Western woman where both partners are happy and in love with each other should not be looked down upon. [WATCH VIDEO]If an atomic bomb vaporized everyone you think she’d still be with him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 08:19 PM |
| 0 | Men of PPD, to what extent are you willing to sacrifice basic morality in order to win over/impress women?• Telling a white lie about your life, such as slightly embellishing your job description or hobbies to come across as more exciting/unique. "White lies" are moral by definition, no? I thought the idea of "white lie" is a non-immoral lie. That being said, any good story-teller or comedian will embellish stories whether by facial and body language, suspenseful pause, etc... Also you don't really have to put down anyone to make yourself look better. Just be better and that has the same effect anyw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Can you realistically generalize the genders, or is it impossible?Gender would not exist as a concept if you could not generalize it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.Link this. I am eagerly waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 03:45 AM |
| 32 | I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as wellEntitlement is a funny word in the way so many use it with regards to dating. If a man shows any ill will toward a women after he was rejected, that’s “entitlement.” I would guess the vast majority of relationships engage in this behavior though. Take your gf out to a nice valentines dinner and when you get home, jerk off and go to sleep. She’s obviously going to be mean towards you for that but does that make her “entitled” or is “entitlement” justified? The word is so moralized that you’ll nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.Primatologists always referred to the dominate male/female in their respective hierarchies. It’s impossible to talk about social structures in chimps, gorillas, etc.. without talking about the dominate male and female. Please.. show me this red pill post comparing themselves to wolves. I think you’re new here or haven’t read much RP posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.For sure, the social game is very important. It’s not about perpetually and constantly domineering everyone in the group. RP calls this “comforting” or some shit. You can’t just domineer people all the time, you also have to comfort them. Not sure what this has to do with wolves or my comment though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 04:12 AM |
| 6 | Holding yourself to some unachievable standard of what it takes as a man to get laid is a recipe for disappointment and resentmentThis is just a bad attitude. I think you should always strive for better. You don't really know what is "unachievable" anyway. If you wanted to be good at basketball and joined a gym and got a coach, not sure if you should hold yourself to the standard of an NBA player, but to your OP: ruggedly handsome, white, etc., and at the same time be perfect emotionally - always confident, never nervous or anxious or shy, never get angry, etc., ...this would be analogous to basketball footwork, shot techn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:53 PM |
| 5 | Why TRP men worry more about childless women than the homeless, the addicts, the poor, the handicapped, the mentally ill, the abused, the unhappy mothers and the children without families?I’m not RP and I am kind to many single moms. I don’t really “respect” strangers though or any particular group of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:17 PM |
| 9 | Why TRP men worry more about childless women than the homeless, the addicts, the poor, the handicapped, the mentally ill, the abused, the unhappy mothers and the children without families?No….They don’t want to make them a wife. They will fuck plenty of single moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:12 PM |
| 17 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.It's a little hyperbolic, but many liberal women consider themselves considerably better for having an education and a white collar job even if it's in recruiting and pays less than blue collar jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 04:56 PM |
| 18 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.Why do people always bring up that wolf study when RP men are clearly referencing primates considering their evo-psych beliefs? https://news.janegoodall.org/2018/07/10/top-bottom-chimpanzee-social-hierarchy-amazing/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 04:55 PM |
| 7 | Why TRP men worry more about childless women than the homeless, the addicts, the poor, the handicapped, the mentally ill, the abused, the unhappy mothers and the children without families?THE ONLY WAY for a woman to be TRULY HAPPY is by marrying and having kids. Tradcon is not "RP." To your point, you don't really want to fuck homeless, addicts (except maybe coke club sluts), handicapped or the mentally ill and abused. Your OP is analogous to asking a shipbuilder why he refuses work on airplanes as some sort of 'gotcha.' RP is solely focused on fucking hot women, not homeless men. "Why do these people who only talk about strategies on fucking hot women never talk about handicappe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 04:51 PM |
| 3 | What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not?If some casual fling is insecure, then why is that my problem? Is it my responsibility to “fix” her according to your standards? Would your life improve if I fixed this woman’s personality flaws you seem so concerned over? If a woman treats me better the more attractive I am then why exactly should I stop becoming more attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 12:17 AM |
| 3 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.It’s just fact of the matter about what happens to women when society collapses accounting to historical account. The likelihood of society collapsing is besides the point and not relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.Elaborate on why giving a historical account gave you that reaction? I wouldn’t want to be a woman because I don’t want to be taken as a sex slave. The point being that I’d rather die as a dude defending my family and property rather than be taken as a sex slave lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 10:56 PM |
| 3 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.What are you even saying to me and why? What makes you think I want society to collapse and a bunch of rapists running around? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.Well I don't think that would lead to a revolution. Societal collapse will cause the lower classes to turn on the rich. But anyway, what are you talking about? We were never discussing which is more likely to lead to what, but what would actually happen to women if society collapsed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.We were discussing a collapsing society, which yes would include that. What do you think will happen? This is what has been shown to happen without a police force and an abolishment of institutions. The US is not in danger of imminent population collapse unless the right gets its way with immigration. I’m which case it’s a self inflicted wound. Yeah, I agree with that. The US is well-positioned to maintain population stability out of all other western and eastern nations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.It's the ones not on the internet that you have to be worried about. Cletus and Jamal, the strange bedfellows, teaming up and going door to door through higher end communities cackling in awe as they rip through the place realizing a house dog has it's own room when they never even had their own bed. Honestly, it's never in anyone's interest to discuss because it's uncomfortable and makes for bad conversation. Reminds me of watching The 100 with my girlfriend. Nobody interested in the fact that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Societal contribution and reproductive access.Honestly would rather be a dude in a collapsing society. Women don't fare well in a collapsing society. Look what happened to women in Berlin in 1945 or the Punic people after Rome conquered Carthage. Preventing societal collapse should be in women's best interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 09:47 PM |
| 3 | What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not?Which is kinda not giving men enough credit to be honest. Yeah, I think that's the point of RP. Most men are "betas." Dread is something per TRP you actively cultivate. You need to read more TRP if you think that. https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/7wb1dz/passive_dread_be_the_prize/ https://therationalmale.com/tag/passive-dread/ It is manipulative. No one should do it. I would only agree with that if your definition of 'manipulative' includes knowingly cultivating both physically a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 09:36 PM |
| 4 | What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not?No, per TRP, dread means consciously reminding someone that you have options There is active and passive dread. You don't have to explicity remind anyone of anything. Just by maintaining/gaining status and attraction to other women creates dread. It's essentially the baseline of how men feel about their gf's, dreading any attention paid to their gf's by other men because they know she can so easily walk away. Men acknowledge it works because men know how well it works on keeping men insecure and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | "Men and Women will always experience aggression differently"But when you break them up into their proper socio-economic backgrounds, you see a very clear distinction between the poor and the educated wealthy. I agree. I think it's even very possible that women from lower SES are more violent than men from higher SES. https://youtu.be/FliJTGOQ0fQ?t=8 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys think there will be a "bachelor" Tax in the west at some point due to declining birth rates and men opting out and breaking the social contract?Unlikely. They will instead try to incentivize married couples and kids rather than a tax on bachelors. Taxes are widely seen as punishments and so, incentives are easier to pass legislation. There is already an economic benefit of being married and living together so in way, single people are "taxed" in some sense of the word but I think it is unlikely that a true tax will be applied any time soon, at least in our lifetime. The economics of being married are quite favorable. From economies of s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: Do you expect rejectionDon't play the lotto, invest instead. Think of it like putting money towards speculative investments. It's money you can afford to lose but you are not necessarily "expecting" to lose it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 04:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4A: Do you expect rejectionI don't assume I will be rejected because that's like assuming you are going to lose a fight or a wrestling match. It's the wrong mindset to have. I believe that losing is inevitable in the general sense, but not individually. Also, have to take the wins with the losses. Losing is not the end of the world and shouldn't stop you from trying. Additionally, you often learn more from your losses than your wins. There is nothing to learn from pinning a freshman in 30 seconds, similarly to bringing ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | What reasons would you NOT date a fellow PPD user?I don't think this sub talks about very happy things, but sometimes we get a positivity thread. It's biased towards gripes people have. That being said, I am genuinely happy about my life! Just built my first home, got a nice little bowrider, and got my PPL over covid. Probably the best three years of my life. As a dude here, you are often accused of being a raging incel as default due to the nature of the topics of the sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Do you know why youre attracted to what youre attracted to?I can be attracted to a pretty wide variety of women. Preference is different I suppose, but mere attraction? Pretty easy to find myself attracted to varying niches of women. Being only ever attracted to a very specific type of person feels strange to me. I think it would limit my opportunity and takes sex way too seriously. Think about the difference between the gay male dating scene and straight tinder dating. Gay men are far less discriminatory about who they are attracted to. While there are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Moral Theories among others prove that TRP & the general public fundamentally disagree on human nature, values and ideal societyThe main reason I bring this up is because conservatives and progressives fundamentally disagree on "human nature" with regards to how much people can control their darker desires, how inherently evil they are if let free and how much they should be kept in check. It goes beyond that. Progressives often disbelieve the general theory that humans have gender specific nature. Dispelling blank slate theory comments is a common theme of this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Redpill content online is so cherry-picked that it’s often disingenuous and inaccurate.I understand what you are saying, but.. 1) the average american woman is fat and ugly and 2) it would make bad content. Honestly, taking the average American woman and interviewing her would probably also reinforce RP beliefs, but in a less entertaining way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of discussing the purple pill?This sub? Entertainment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityYou can’t determine that from any specific life. The fact that you think the poor believe they would rather be dead and are not worth living is telling and is honestly a troubling genocidal belief. You should think deeply about how you feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityThis philosophy never made sense to me. By that logic, we should genocide the poor or anyone deemed to have a "poor" quality of life. It is obvious to any philosopher that some awkwardness later in life is worth life itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityAn “abortion” would just go into a test tube instead of the trash. There is no longer any valid philosophical reason to terminate a human life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityRight, correct. I honestly doubt these advances are anywhere near reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 04:53 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityNo. https://www.google.com/search?q=breeding&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS874US889&oq=breeding&aqs=chrome..69i57j35i39j0i131i433l2j0i131i433i512j0i512j0i131i433i512j0i433i512l2j0i512.903j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Breeding is production of the offspring. The production happens mostly outside of the woman in this case. She is by definition not breeding, nor gestating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityYou wouldn't be "breeding" anything considering artificial wombs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 03:50 PM |
| 0 | Artificial wombs may 'destroy' traditional relationships, but not in the context of fertilityI wonder what it would do to the abortion debate as there would be otherwise no reason to terminate a fetus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/22 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Ppd posters are outliers, their answers are pretty much redundant at best and by the numbers virtue signalling at worstThis is a consequence of how women treat each other. They call each other beautiful not because they put much thought into artistic beauty, but more because it makes the other person feel better about themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 08:47 PM |
| 3 | How modern capitalism profits from loneliness and isolation.China is grappling with population collapse and really needs women to have more children. The west can be pro-feminism due our systems being more attractive to immigrants so that we get a steady supply of labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 04:24 PM |
| 0 | Men are easily fooled when it comes to understanding why women are around certain men. This is the source of bitternessIt's a certain type of woman though. The type that wants to wait to have sex, wants him to commit first, etc... is not really invited because they are not the vibe. This is why these men often simply hire prostitutes instead. That way everyone knows the rub and there are no ulterior motives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 04:01 PM |
| 5 | How modern capitalism profits from loneliness and isolation.What is this formatting? Can you try and respond more clearly? Use quotes and replies. as for the WFH shift, its a problem born of another problem, really - and it really does blur the line between the two, investment in tech that makes sure “you’re actually working” (AKA surveillance) has increased, and soon enough employers will start praying on their employees by using the “well you’re home anyway” excuse. Well sure, but that is hardly a consequence of capitalism. If you worked for a communis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Men are easily fooled when it comes to understanding why women are around certain men. This is the source of bitternessbecause of personality To be fair, a lot of those women are actually very fun to be around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:51 PM |
| 12 | How modern capitalism profits from loneliness and isolation.These are not necessarily consequences of capitalism. In a communist society, the working class would want social media and for it to run as efficient as possible. Also, the idea that workers would not opt to work at home is incorrect. Many would if given the opportunity as we so now. The WFH shift is not due to big business demanding it for profits, but from workers having the leverage to demand it in midst of a labor supply crunch that allows them more relative power over their employers. Iron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Men are easily fooled when it comes to understanding why women are around certain men. This is the source of bitterness? Nobody is fooled as to why hot women are naked and chilling on yachts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?I mean don’t be hyperbolic just because your assumptions are wrong but yeah, the dude is unlikely to be a super model and probably struggles for work for very little pay as do the vast majority of male models. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/22 12:07 AM |
| 0 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Models very often are from lower socioeconomic statuses. The male models I knew in New York lived like gypsies. Studio apartments filled with only clothes they got for free and a futon and actually came from poor families. Are you thinking of super models? because lots of male models are addicts…have to do gay porn to make ends meet and are very often trashy people. Fun dudes though lol and yes.. a ton of trashy people dated them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Again, OP was talking about attractive people without regard for trashiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Well firstly, I only see OP talk about attractiveness which there are attractive or unattractive trashy and non-trashy people alike. And secondly, I am responding to a specific comment not OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?I mean I don't for sure, but your comment above assumes these people don't exist which makes your statement false at worst and misleading at best. There are literally millions of deeply insecure and trashy women who put up with abuse regularly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 09:11 PM |
| 2 | There's no way to know if a guy has taken the Red Pill unless he explicitly tells youOkay? Whether or not it is a red pill is besides the point. I am asking her why she is starting with that premise to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 09:11 PM |
| -1 | There's no way to know if a guy has taken the Red Pill unless he explicitly tells youUhh girls being ruined by sex is a Red Pill thing though I don't give a shit what red pill thing it is or you think it is. Why does that mean you have to agree with that premise?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 08:06 PM |
| 4 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Well first, you did not say "generally" so don't lie. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/29/girls-low-self-esteem-rising-girlguiding-report Secondly, it's hardly general. Something like 33% of women have self-esteem issues. Your original comment implies it's uncommon. It's really not. Both men and women quite regularly get into shitty relationships with shitty people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Right but that defeats your statement. There are literally millions of people with low self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?These people weren’t even hot… so no. Lots of trashy average people date other trashy average people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | There's no way to know if a guy has taken the Red Pill unless he explicitly tells youYeah, your daughters gonna get her heart broken. This idea that sex is immeasurably damaging to only girls (but you don’t have to worry about your sons) is a hilarious form of sexism that I commonly see from bloops. It’s as if they are religious conservatives and think girls are ruined by sex. The only different is bloops think it’s psychological and not judgement by god. Your daughter is gonna be fine lol everyone gets their heart broken. In fact, she’ll probably pump and dump and break more me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:39 PM |
| 7 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Maybe when they get older. I’ve seen young men and women both put up with a lot of shit for an extremely extended period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 07:32 PM |
| 7 | Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?Garbage personality dudes bang all the time. Both women and men regularly date abusive partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:26 PM |
| 10 | How do I know whether a potential partner consumes red pill content?My SO says red pill shit all the time about women. Lots of the tenets hardly controversial it you use nicer words. Dads dread game moms simply by going to the gym while she gets fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 01:19 PM |
| 7 | As a leftist man, I believe that men are better off not pursuing progressive/feminist/leftist women for long-term relationships.How is Russia a self-sufficient economy independent of western markets when Russia relies almost solely on western markets to export commodities to maintain a functioning economy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Number of Sex partners only matters if you are looking for something long termFor sure you should be using them but I disagree it’s enough. Ultimately it’s up to your risk tolerance and therefore prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Number of Sex partners only matters if you are looking for something long termProstitutes have casual sex too. Condoms are not good enough alone, really. Testing is good to do but not enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 10:38 PM |
| 0 | Number of Sex partners only matters if you are looking for something long termLots of men choose prostitutes for causal sex. It’s not uncommon, at all. NBA stars, celebs and businessmen do it all the time. Sometimes to keep the sex on the DL from their wives, other times because it’s more enjoyable from a professional. Other times because it’s strictly understood to be casual. Also, condoms are not necessarily effective at protecting against STIs but you already know this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 08:49 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Why ask the question then? Or why not accept the answer that contraceptives' are a women's right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Or you can just say what you mean by women’s rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Number of Sex partners only matters if you are looking for something long termI don't anymore but I used to. That's besides the point for many STDs though. I still wouldn't risk it with a prostitute even if she is offering her services for free, for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Number of Sex partners only matters if you are looking for something long termIt also matters if you are looking for something short term. If you are looking for a hookup, you don't really want the health risk of a girl that has been with 100 other guys in that month, nor do you want someone inexperienced to the point where she immediately bonds to you when you are only looking for something casual. It all matters, really. It often just depends on how it matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 02:59 PM |
| 0 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Again, what do you mean by women’s rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 04:36 AM |
| 0 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Sure, but again “women’s rights” don’t exist if transwomen are women. So what do you mean by women’s rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 03:50 AM |
| 0 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Men can get pregnant too. What’s your point? Looks like there are only human rights. What would you define as “women’s rights” without being transphobic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 10:10 PM |
| 8 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to one type of men - those out of their leagueYou implied NSFW pics, and it's not like you said you post pics of your dogs. I feel like it's not a stretch to assume they were nudes lol I think you don’t think there’s a problem with men who over simp, but there is. I for sure do and I'm not sure why you think I don't....and you still haven't answered my question...I am still left wondering why you post these pics despite the fact that you find the responses annoying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 09:16 PM |
| 12 | Redpillers 'focus on themselves' to get women, thus defeating the pointThe same concept is when people say those who try to be alpha are inherently not alpha. That's just BP shaming techniques. The most "alpha" men I know, ex MMA guys, college wrestlers, retired military, have all trained literally their entire lives to be that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 09:03 PM |
| 2 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Lady what? That was clearly a joke. You asked the question about women’s right. What I gave you is clearly a “woman’s right.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Well it's a right, not a "woman's right" because as we all know men can get pregnant. Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects the liberty of married couples to buy and use contraceptives without government restriction. Seven years later, Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438 (1972) extended Griswold’s holding to unmarried people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 07:12 PM |
| 14 | Women tell men to stick to their league, but women are attracted to one type of men - those out of their leagueCurious as to why you share free nudes if not to feel good about yourself and receive positive feedback? If you find the positive feedback annoying then why even post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:38 PM |
| 5 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?The courts care primarily for the well-being of the child, in both cases of the rape baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:25 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?They're gonna getcha! Your dooming can't be mentally healthy. Get rights codified into laws.. don't know what else to tell you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:19 PM |
| 3 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Nobody forces a man to cum inside of a woman and impregnate her. Least obvious rape denial PPD commenter. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-trauma/201902/when-male-rape-victims-are-accountable-child-support Male rape victims pay child support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Seven years later, Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438 (1972) extended Griswold’s holding to unmarried people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:02 PM |
| 1 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Well it looks like they are going to dissolve the discrimination against Asians but you are free to live your life dooming that they are coming for you eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 06:00 PM |
| 3 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Well there will always be interpretation required, but it's not like codifying a legal right to abortion as an amendment can't be written clearly. Sure, there may be a judge that interprets that amendment as a picture of a chicken's ass, but that's the risk we all take. There's no real other alternative. Your "rights" exist insofar as much as a functioning government exists too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 05:42 PM |
| 5 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?It is still a "right" (until it isn't). I personally prefer to legislate rights instead of relying on judges to interpret what rights you have. "Rights" should not exist outside codifying them into the constitution via our legislative process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 05:37 PM |
| 3 | What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy?Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects the liberty of married couples to buy and use contraceptives without government restriction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 05:13 PM |
| 2 | The main flaw of TRP is that they low-key endorse traditionalism, a system that is outright cruel for both gendersI think what you are missing is the fact that RP men are doing what is best for them individually. Spinning plates while young and then marrying some tradcon wife when they are older when spinning plates is no longer viable or all that accessible to do. This is not traditionalism or social conservatism as those two things pertain to an ideology of what is best for society, not the individual. If they adhered to traditionalism, they wouldn’t spin plates as according to that ideology, it would be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:05 PM |
| 1 | How are bigger women improving their dating game if even?I mean I throw shade at drug addicts too. I think criticism towards unhealthy parts of our society is a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 08:33 PM |
| 0 | How are bigger women improving their dating game if even?I have a fat coworker I do feel bad for because she keeps getting these crushes on dudes in the office and then crushed when they don’t reciprocate. I do kinda feel bad for them even though I also throw shade at obese people in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 08:10 PM |
| 3 | How do we "choose better partners"?I will concede one scenario where a guy finds out he and the woman are not compatible in the bedroom after they spend time there together. I would argue that fairly rare however. I disagree. Most men from my experience will explicitly express interest, casually date for a little while, and then break up with her. There is no deception, obfuscation or omission required and doing all that is honestly the harder route. Why take the harder route of playing some game when you can simply express inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 07:11 PM |
| 2 | How do we "choose better partners"?knew she had basically 0% chance of a relationship I agree that we all operate with imperfect information, but...it's a self-defeating mentality to think the above. Imagine if every time a man approached woman he internalized "I have a 0% chance of being with this woman." This is just not the attitude you should really carry if you want to maintain any sort of confidence in yourself. The woman would probably be better off thinking he has no chance of a relationship with her, rather than believin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 04:48 PM |
| 3 | Do you still demand the ring after a failed proposal?A childhood friend married a girl right out of HS. He didn't have any money for a ring but she did (or her parents), so they split it or came to some kind of joint deal on the purchase. Anyway, they ultimately broke up and I know there was some kind of dispute about the ring. I wasn't really involved closely to know how it concluded but I believe each just wanted the $ they put into it, which is not exactly how the diamond market works lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Do you still demand the ring after a failed proposal?I think most states do... Only had the motivation to look up NY and VA for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:25 PM |
| 8 | Do you still demand the ring after a failed proposal?In Virginia, the state's Supreme Court ruled in December 2016 that the engagement ring is a conditional gift, and should be returned to the giver. New York law requires the recipient to return the ring to the person who gave it to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:06 PM |
| 2 | What Are The Weirdest/Most Random Reasons You’ve Lost Interest In Someone?Agreed. I like restaurants too much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItYou have me multiple lists? Yes, I linked you multiple posts that list what women find attractive about in "alpha men" and why they like sex with them, hence multiple lists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI gave you multiple lists already that you refuse to read. I can't help that you feel creeped out by being told to seek the answers you want. It's clear that you don't even want to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItYou are embarrassing yourself. I can't help that you feel creeped out by being told to seek the answers you want. and lady, I'm married and not red pill lol I just happen to know what they actually believe. You know... that women like sex with attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItHealthy people don't freak out at being told to seek the answers they are searching for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI am asking you to ask redpillers the question since you don't believe me... If you feel creeped out by that then I think that is your mental illness speaking. Healthy people don't freak out at being told to seek the answers they are searching for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItJust google red pill sidebar if you want to know the tenets: https://www.google.com/search?q=red+pill+sidebar&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS874US889&oq=red+pill+side&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512j0i22i30l7.3578j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The sidebar does not change... it's like their bible. I have asked different red pillers to explain what their biggest gripes are and what we can do do help? Make the Q4RP post and you will see your answers without conflating blackpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI mean judging by your history, and dishonest interest in actually understanding RP tenets, you clearly are not the type. I don't believe you are this unintelligent to think that RP believes that women do not enjoy sex with hot men. You are just sulking and being stubborn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI don't even know what you're trying to convey because it's so damn confusing and contradictory. I know you're not the type to make a submission post but maybe you should make submit a Q4RedPill: "Do hot women enjoy sex with attractive men" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItSo you do admit that RP states that women want to have sex with attractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying Itbecause of money, height and body type. You understand...the RP argument...is that...women find those traits sexually attractive right?? Literally why else would women prefer sex with tall, attractive men? What are you even saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItSuggesting you have to have trawled through TRP Reddit page to be qualified to debate on these topics is obtuse. You have such a fundamentally wrong opinion though, it doesn't even make sense. They literally believe that women like sex from "alpha men." That is like the most basic RP shit. How could you not know this? You know very well most women on here are not going to expose themselves to that vitriol Most women on here actually do understand that RP believes women like sex with alpha men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItLady if your delicate sensibilities can't handle to read what they are saying then how do you even have an opinion of what they are saying? how women don’t enjoy sex and I’m lying if I say they do. Blackpill Redpill is very clear that women like sex with "alpha men." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItYeah your view is a little biased because 1) you don't even read the forum and have formed an opinion on it outside of understanding it's tenets and 2) you are conflating blackpill with redpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying It….old Reddit just means the old Reddit version instead of the new one. Well if you are here to learn then congrats, you’ve learned something today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItSo yeah, for sure RP talks about pleasuring women. Despite your conflating blackpill with RP, their obsession with height and status is because those things are pleasurable to women in men. You may disagree with the RP idea of what pleasures women, but it's impossible to argue that they don't talk about how to pleasure women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying Ithttps://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/mwno56/easy_ways_to_have_mutually_magnificent_sex/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItDiscussing how to give women good orgasms: https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7p008k/how_to_give_a_woman_an_orgasm/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying Ithttps://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1mbfus/study_shows_that_husbands_who_do_more_housework/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying Ithttps://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1wrhqq/woman_confirms_that_nice_guy_behavior_is_a_turn/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI'll link dump you RP discussing what is pleasurable to women. https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/772ai8/emotional_stability_is_a_turn_on_for_women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI mean scroll down in the conversation. The whole conversation is about the things those types of women find pleasurable. And really?? RP never discusses what turns women on and what keeps coming them back? I can link dump you if you want. Your opinion may be that what they think turns women on is incorrect but the idea that they don't talk about what turns women on and what is pleasurable for them is obviously ridiculous. That is basically all they talk about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Do girls usually assume the guy they're dating (or guys in general) can easily get casual sex?From my experience, it's bashful jealously/insecurity sometimes, other times it's a form of light negging/humor. "you got hoes?," "how many hoes you have," [phone rings] "probably one of your sluts." I don't think they truly believe it is necessarily easy but it is sometimes how humans process jealously, insecurity and express humor. Either way it's typically light-hearted, but yeah jealously processes and is expressed in this way sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying Itdisgust towards people who do this kind of stuff, and that includes women, not to mention a dude. Curious, do you then assume gay men are generally disgusting? Here are the stats : (estimated that 80.0% of gay men practiced anal intercourse, and 20.0% never engaged in it at all ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?I think it's an interesting strategy because there is no difference to the audience between someone who lies about wanting a relationship just to have sex and then breakup and someone who simply changed their mind after sex about what they wanted and broke up. The girls who say this have typically been burned by both. Makes me think that she either 1) thinks way too morally about sex in some way and 2) lots of men changed their mind about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCome on. Give me another comment before you go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.Next time you make blanket statements remember how they linguistically apply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.Bro this is how dialogue and conversation works. Just because you painted yourself in a corner and are now defensive doesn’t mean you have to act like conversations between two people never evolve by discussing anecdotes. Have you ever lived as a human? You made a generalized blanket statement about friendship and I’m responding to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.I did and we are having a separate conversation about my friend in college in response to your claim. This is how conversation works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.Why are you assuming these two people are not attracted to each other? You are making up the scenario now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:33 PM |
| 0 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.Dude nobody is claiming sex is required for friendship. I am asking you why such a negotiated arrangement NEGATES a friendship as you have claimed. You can absolutely be friends with a girl who gives you blowjobs for help with her homework. Sex is not a big deal. It does not necessarily mean anything. It can be seen, philosophically, as no different of an act as cooking someone dinner for doing you a favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:12 PM |
| -2 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.But the fucking enhances the friendship. You can absolutely negotiate that arraignment with a genuine friend. You still haven’t explained why negotiating that arrangement negates a friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 11:49 AM |
| -2 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.You’re still not explaining why. I’ve had friends who I fucked and helped out. It was generally understood that I would help her with her homework and then fuck. She was a good friend too. Quid pro quo friends exist and there are not uncommon at all. Why was she not a “genuine friend” according to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 11:36 AM |
| -6 | Women often complain about lack of male friendships and getting "fuckzoned". But the truth is, women generally just aren't as good of friends as men.Yes? You can be genuine friends with someone you fuck for whatever reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOne more sweet sweet c0pe comment as Russia retreats wholesale from Kherson? https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukrainian-forces-move-into-key-town-north-of-kherson-11667991035 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 04:44 PM |
| 0 | Virgins women aren't anywhere near as rare as people on here think - those who say otherwise always misrepresent the statistics.People go to bars, clubs, the gym, many places just to meet people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 04:39 PM |
| 2 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.Joke or not, your questioning still implies you are asking about what a specific individual would do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.So what happens if you refuse to work? What if you just decide to break up with labor? Be single for awhile? What happens? Your line of questioning implies it is about an individual as you continue the line of questioning by asking if the person would "be single for a while." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 06:29 PM |
| 2 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.That is the question you literally asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 06:25 PM |
| 4 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.Not a woman, so how is that relevant to your question about what I would do?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 06:24 PM |
| 3 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.The shelters would sure be available for me though. It's very easy to refuse to work in western nations and still survive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 06:20 PM |
| 5 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.That's true because they refuse to accept state providing housing due to the drug and pet policies amongst other things. However, you have to remember your own line of questioning: So what happens if you refuse to work? I'm implying what I would do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 05:55 PM |
| 5 | Failing at finding a partner doesn't have to be anyone's fault, because capitalism needs workers to keep it alive, Every society needs workers to survive. If you had a communist society of 100,000 people all aged 50 and a zero birth rate, in 25 years you will have no workers and only pensioners. The only society that doesn't need an active birthrate is one where technological productivity increases to offset the decline in worker productivity due to fewer workers, OR a post-scarcity society where AI and robotics are advanced enough that we don't need "work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 02:24 PM |
| 1 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.So what happens if you refuse to work? What happens if you refuse to work according to Marx? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 02:10 PM |
| 7 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.So what happens if you refuse to work? There are plenty of homeless people in Cali who refuse to work and eat on taxpayers dime and sleep in voucher obtained apartments and hotels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCan you give me some new sweeet c0pe comments? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCan I get an updated c0pe comment to start my weekend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 10:46 PM |
| 2 | Modern society is wrong. Women do not love or have real sexualities, but use sex and love as a weapon and a resource.I would say you’re wrong just for the fact that so many women use sex as a form of self harm. So many of the women in my past were using promiscuity as some kind of c0ping mechanism for some kind of mental instability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 03:13 AM |
| 1 | “Masculinity” and “Femininity” are a myth!Well but they do? Act and dress like a cute little twink and see how many women want to date you. The simple fact of the matter is that masculine and feminine gender roles dictate a fair amount of your dating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/22 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.You don’t do RP talk yet here you are on PPD where we debate RP terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Call it owoguwu if helps your delicate sensibilities. Owoquwu is quite common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.I’m not RP and it’s hardly a unique RP thought that people settle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.You don’t know many women then. Both women and mens preferences change pretty drastically. Beta bucks settling is pretty common, even. The idea that women don’t and instead find a better compatible mate outside of the office world is even more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Again, I think most people adjust their attitude as they get older. It’s just the natural progress of dating preferences as someone matured. If individual white collar women don’t want to date them then that’s fine but don’t act like it’s not a solution to their dating woes. The prompt is what should these women do. The fact that some stay single is besides the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/22 10:49 AM |
| 9 | How do bluepillers reconcile the two statements "Looks don't matter" and "Most people are dating someone with similar looks"?It's what women say to men so they have hope including mothers. Women are conflict avoidant. They aren't going to call you an ugly fuck and tell you that you are doomed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.You cannot be this dense. The truckers and oil riggers you mentioned are not moving to Westchester or Greenwich. I also gave an example of a plumber. And yes there are many oil service job and trucking jobs in NYC too. Anyway, are you autistic? Do you think that when people give you an example you think they mean that is the only example? The plumber isn’t looking for Ms. Middle Management— he’ll likely find her obnoxious and look down at her for being a corporate stooge. I know a couple like th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.It’s likely not about the money, but about the social and cultural values. Yeah, correct. I completely agree with you here. A woman working in some dull HR corporate job in NY isn’t going to want to date or have children with a man who expects her to move with him to rural America or who refers to her preferred hometown as “not real America”. I didn't mean some dude who wants to move to rural America. More like move to the hudson valley or westchester or CT so he can continue to work his union j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.How could you seen this happened? Because I have female friends in the corporate world? Not sure what you want me to say here. Do you want their number or like an interview with them? She ain't going to date some blue collar man when being told she be better off single. Does this happen? Yes. Does this also not happen? Also yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.they’ve climbed the ladder to be in the “high” position? The issue is also that they perceive themselves to have done this. In reality, they are just mid level HR managers, or doing comms and marketing or even worse they are recruiters lol ... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Because having a biz means you already have the capital and you take proper risks to be financially free Most business fail and take the life savings of those who invested in them with it. But anyway, maybe I didn't articulate my thoughts clear enough. The point being that even if he was not a business owner, corporate women have this snoot attitude that they are automatically better than anyone who doesn't work corporate, despite the fact that they themselves oftentimes have comparable or lower… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Being a business owner has higher perceived status Depends what kind of business. I ninja edited, but: One of my first bosses was this guy who only worked in finance until an early retirement at 40 and then moved to florida to open his own dive school. Sure, he has capital but many women still see him as below them even though he is probably worth far more than them on paper. The overarching point is that lots of corpo women have this snoot attitude that they are automatically better than anyone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:43 PM |
| 4 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.You'd be surprised. Some white collar women believe dating blue collar is automatically dating down, even if he makes double her HR salary. One of my first bosses was this guy who only worked in finance until an early retirement at 40 and then moved to florida to open his own dive school. Sure, he has capital but many women still see him as below them even though he is probably worth far more than them on paper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.I mean, I've seen it happen, but maybe those women are lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:40 PM |
| 2 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Yes these women see themselves as better. Which is why they often require an attitude adjustment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Not if she believes he is as good as or better than her and respects his profession. Many of these corp women are middle rung HR people making $60k. Fucking plumbers and truck drivers are making $100k these days. Oil field workers make $200k in some places. And yet these HR girls think dating blue collar is automatically dating down. So again, it’s not really “settling” or “dating down” for these women when they widen their preferences. They are simply no longer only looking within the corporat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.You’re missing the point. A corp woman who dates a small business owner may be dating down to you, but to her, she is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 11:26 AM |
| 2 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.Really? I think for the undereducated population in general, it's more because it is the easy way to find meaning and self-fulfillment in life. Near everyone can have kids. Not everyone can become self-fulfilled in their dream job of being some geologist at Nat Geo or something, you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 07:12 PM |
| 5 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.I wonder if this is a reason why lower class people have fewer problems finding mates since they are both more dependent on the state instead of a single income earner. Lower classes have dating issues for due to rape, abuse, substance abuse issues, etc... but they don't seem to have an issue actually finding these people. The issues come with dating them after lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 06:49 PM |
| 24 | Just because dating pool for career women "shrink" it doesn't mean that they should abandon the opportunity to grow academically/financially.People often say that career women have less men to choose from when they "succeed" It's the women themselves saying it too.... but anyway, I think the best thing to do is to widen your parameters. Be open to dating construction workers, firemen, policemen etc... Men have been dating down for generations but not sure if women can escape their own hypergamy. Whether that is intrinsic to them or is socially constructed, it doesn't really matter. I guess it all depends on how strongly you want to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat’s just not true at all. Many men play the long game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think you are fairly unique. A man who just wants sex doesn't only talk about sex all the time. Getting women in the mood, and to trust you etc... will involve talking about many different things other than penises. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI disagree as I’ve been that guy before. Not sure what to tell you. I loved talking and getting to know a girl before sex. The push pull of flirting and getting to know someone is almost as fun as sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen can easily figure this out You cannot because you are still only just assuming unless he admits lying. My fiance avoided it all by avoiding the men "who didn't know what they want." She calls them the most dangerous of all men. But to her own admission, it is impossible to know, because they will just claim they became uninterested somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedWell upon their further responses from them, it is clear that is what they actually said and meant. "Abandon" can only really mean one thing. If you abandon strawberries, you can't also eat strawberry ice cream lol Also, welcome to PPD I guess. There are plenty of feminists and bloops who come here with blank slate ideologies. Most people purple out eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:46 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadReally? The lengths men will go just to have sex is far beyond "ask her about her pet dog" and some other personal things... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:44 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIdk I'm not a woman so I'm not sure how I would approach this dilemma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure this doesn't really answer my question though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:42 PM |
| 8 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCan't we only assume that a guy is lying to get sex, unless he explicitly admits he was lying? If women ask, the man will respond "I don't know yet and let's just see where this goes." And when they have sex the man will say "well I feel like we are on different pages" or "I just need more time to decide" or simply break things off with her. She is none the wiser if he is lying or not. Unless he confesses, who knows what his honest intentions were? Maybe he legit changed his mind and as we all k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:34 PM |
| 2 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?It's not even that. If women ask, the man will respond "I don't know yet and let's just see where this goes." And when they have sex the man will say "well I feel like we are on different pages" or "I just need more time to decide" or simply break things off with her. She is none the wiser if he is lying or not. Who knows what his honest intentions were? Maybe he legit changed his mind and as we all know it is okay to withdraw consent at any time. Maybe he legit doesn't know what he wants. Men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:16 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedIf you were to abandon strawberry, then you couldn't eat strawberry Neapolitan or strawberry frozen yogurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedthey’re not going to have the same careful wording as an essay prompt. Abandoning something has a very well-known, universal meaning. No reasonable person thinks abandoning something actually means "sometimes also adding it in." You're just being stubborn because you look silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 06:00 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedLet's do an experiment. Explain women's attraction to male height while abandoning biological explanations. Reasonable people read the prompt above as to abandon any biological explanation. You just feel silly, so you are being stubborn. If the above was a prompt to an essay in college, you would not see biological explanations discussed because they are being abandoned as an explanation per the prompt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | We all know the friend zone, why don't we talk about the sex zone?Honestly, I would fault someone for continuing to date that person even after he was crystal clear about putting her in the fuck zone. It happened recently to a friend of mine. Classic example. She was aging, lower 30's. Really wanted kids soon. He was honest about just fucking around but she fell madly in love with him and would claim to our friend group that she would eventually marry him. The right thing to do here and what he ultimately did, was break up with her. She needed a clean break an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justified..and if you abandon that explanation, then you do just that. There is not really much nuance left when you abandon something. You could interpret "abandoning" a reasoning as 'applying it sporadically', but that wouldn't be something any reasonable person would do. "Abandoning" the reasoning as a possibility is pretty absolute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Ladies have you thought about going on the Fresh and Fit podcast to debate Myron on red pill talking points or is it too much of a challenge?I've witnessed so many women disparage their rivals by claiming they look like prostitutes, literal whores, etc.. and it's not because they are claiming those women are goldiggers lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenI’ve had men use porn shit on me. It was unfun. Anyway, I have had women who want porn shit done to them. This is the problem with arguing anecdotes. There are so many damaged, man-focused, insecure women out there in the dating and sex world who vocally claim to want male-focused porn sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedi didnt really see it as them abandoning biology. “abandoning biological explanations for dating behavior” can just mean to abandon explanations that are solely biology. I don't think that is a reasonable interpretation. Abandoning biological explanations for dating behavior is abandoning ALL explanations no matter what extent. Either solely or partially, if you are abandoning biology for the explanation, then you are abandoning it all by definition of the term abandon. That word leaves very lit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedyes but it’s a little ridiculous to be 100% sure about some of these things like a lot of people are. Yeah I don't mean to suggest that culture cannot play or role or that it doesn't. This discussion though is about how it's a little ridiculous that people are 100% sure that biology plays NO role and suggests to abandon it altogether. It's like you entered into a discussion about a person you made up in your head instead of the direct conversation above with person who suggested to discard and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:27 PM |
| 0 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedRight they don’t abandon them, correct. That is what this discussion is about. Were you having trouble following the conversation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenOof oof oof no. oof big yikes sweaty. Actually curious, do you talk like this in real life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedSure, the only way to "prove" it would be a very unethical human experiment. But that is besides the point, most reasonable people, including scientists, believe that biology plays some role. To what extent is up for debate, but it's hardly the case that scientists "abandon biological or evolutionary explanations." Such a step would be wildly unscientific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenYeah for sure. I'm sure many BDSM forums have good how-to advice, but not sure that would be considered "porn" even though your work browser probably blocks it lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedPlump, but with a definite hourglass shape, and I'm not sure any of these women would be considered fat, nor radically different than the beauty standards of today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:17 PM |
| 2 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedYou're mincing words. Fat, slightly chubby, obese. What next? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:14 PM |
| 2 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedFat people were considered beautiful years ago, nowadays they aren't. That's not true at all. Obesity was considered upper-class but never beautiful. Romans, Greeks etc.. all made statutes healthy people as idealized forms of beauty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 01:02 PM |
| 4 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedWell, there are some humans that want to evolve society past that. If you want to stick to your ape brain and feel too hopeless to put your intellect above what the basic functions of your brain tell you Are you absolutely daft? NOBODY is rejecting the idea that we shouldn't rise above these innate urges. This conversation is about how innate behaviors exist to begin with. In fact, I have only advised the direct opposite - that you should rise above them in the modern world. It's not hopeless at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 12:54 PM |
| 7 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedAre you this dense? Yes humans are primates and have comparable biological programming. This is why the obesity rate is what it is. Sugar is literally addictive to primates because of how scarce it is yet produces a ton of fat storage. It’s because if you were running around in the wild and found a natural source of sugar like a berry, you’d want to basically consume as much as possible. It’s so easy to turn humans into fat consumer slobs because we are all dumb primates, not despite it. In fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 12:46 PM |
| 8 | "NOT ALL WOMEN"! is justifiedThat’s not something most reasonable people are willing to do. The idea that all primates have innate male and female mating practices and behaviors in the aggregate, except for humans, is a feminist induced fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many men turn mean on the women they just had sex with?I think “mean” in this context oftentimes just refers to the dude not immediately texting her back anymore. The push-pull flirty banter pre-sex I think was the most entertaining part of hookup culture aside from sex of course. After sex, the relationship goes one or two ways if they guy just wants sex. Breakup or fuck buddies. And not many women really want to be some slam bittie side piece. I think being “mean” is the way many men play this out. The slow fade basically. It’s a little cowardly i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 11:53 AM |
| 2 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenI mean I did? Looked up very specific how to porn videos. But yeah you’re right, it’s a curve and diminishing returns. It’s not brain surgery. After that one or two videos you start to enter diminishing returns on knowledge learned. “Porn” is probably my the best way to learn but then real experience takes over. Also, young promiscuous women are not like the women on this sub. These young women grew up with porn. Molded by its expectations. There are some nasty bitches out there that absolutely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHow’s the war, son? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSend source for these thousands of causalities. You’re going to c0pe through this whole Russian fiasco huh? Kherson? More like Kharkiv. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadStill slowly winning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 01:19 PM |
| 5 | Why do people expect men to 'just get it' when sociosexual development takes years in other primates?That is debatable. According to wiki, In recent years, the term has seen a revival in bioethical discussions on the usage of new technologies such as CRISPR and genetic screening, with a heated debate on whether these technologies should be called eugenics or not. The idea that the term cannot be applied to individual choice is certainly debatable and is currently being debated by researchers in the bioethics field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad adviceNo, I want novel responses to my comments. Tell someone else this who needs to hear it. Not me lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 03:13 PM |
| 0 | Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad adviceYeah obviously. Be attractive, don’t be unattractive. Please don’t ever reply to me again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 06:50 AM |
| 2 | Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problemsI think mandatory fitness training should be standard for any nation, really. Especially if that nation is considering universal healthcare. I think universal care would be a kind thing to do and then I spend about 4 minutes in a Walmart and instantly change my mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?You're clearly new here. I'm engaged lol This conversation has nothing to do with me. We are discussing how men and women (and gay men) can get sex at differing levels of ease. And you gotta make it all weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?What makes you think I am bitter at gay men for having sex lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?That's the truth? You agreed to it and stated it as well. Why am I bitter for stating something factual that you also stated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?What makes you think I am bitter? Quote me where I expressed any resentment for anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?Do you not understand that women aren't men? Your sitting there agreeing with what I am saying and getting mad at me for it. What is wrong with you lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?You also can't compare gay men with straight men. Yes you can. I just did. Gay men get laid more and it's easier for them to get laid no matter what. If a man who is a 9 or 10 randomly approached a woman and said the same thing he'd very likely be instantly dismissed. Correct, that's my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?I mean yeah, you'll never get what any woman or gay man can get. A woman can get laid in seconds. Gay men have massive piss orgies on whim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:15 PM |
| 3 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funSorry I misread what you said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funYou shouldn't look down on your partner regardless. You can do that with our without having double-standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?Well if you're actually being serious and really talking about wanting to manipulate people, take a HUGE step back and realise just how fucking unethical that is, and what a piece of shit person that makes you. Well sure, but the point I was making was that all these tactics are not necessarily "needed" for 9s and 10s. What you are saying here is a separate conversation. but I still think about how unethical it was, and how hurt he'd be if he ever found out what I did. I think there are levels, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:57 PM |
| -1 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funNot having double standards /= not having equal standards. Just because a couple agree that one of them will be a stay at home parent doesn't mean all the sudden one of them is lesser. Having double-standards does not necessarily mean you think lesser of the person though? I have many different standards for my spouse, but I they don't necessarily make me think of her lesser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?Well nothing is "needed" and that is not the point of RP. It's about wants, not needs. it's not needed to get the average girl. Nothing is "needed," but lets talk efficacy because that is maybe what you are referring to? RP is often like a drug to average or below average girls with deep insecurities, daddy issues and mental illnesses of varying kinds. The idea that men and women are immune to varying manipulative dating strategies is just world fallacy nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:21 PM |
| -7 | What if some people just want to play the field? For funAs long as you don't have double standards no one has an issue. Why does this even matter? Who cares if you hold yourself to different standards as your partner? If you want to be a stay at home parent, then you are going to hold yourself to different standards than your spouse in terms of income and all the way to personality traits that behooves bread-winners like confidence, drive, motivation, etc... Similarly, your sexual standards might be different and that is fine too. You really, really,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?So what's the issue then? What is the issue you are implying I am making? If you're mainly doing OLD and you're not a 9 or 10 then it should be expected that you're passed over. Yes.. this is already expected. Get out into the real world and meet women in places where you can show them in real life what you're like. I agree. RP and other dating advice theories offer similar advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?You have brain worms and don't talk to young men. Can you quote me someone who actually expects to leave the door in the morning and have casual sex? I really doubt that you have seen or met any young man who actually expects casual sex. On the contrary and most commonly, men consider casual sex "getting lucky," because it is that uncommon and unexpected. Young men wouldn't consider casual sex "getting lucky" if it was expected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 02:22 PM |
| 22 | Telling men to "focus on themselves" when they are looking to meet women is bad adviceWhat is the alternative? Cross boundaries women have set? hmm Yes, 100%. Women have "set" the boundaries of not meeting them at work, not meeting them at the gym, not meeting them when they are studying etc... I have dated women from meeting them in all three of those settings. The idea that you should listen to the "boundaries" that women have set for other women is nonsensical. Women will always be more concerned about other women's sensibilities than a man's loneliness and so they will always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 12:56 PM |
| 3 | Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff?Strange question. I never really “expected” to have casual sex in the same way say my gf has always “expected” to get married or even have a bf. It was never really expected. Wanted, desired and hoped for but never expected as if it was an outcome already decided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 11:54 AM |
| 2 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?At its core, it is the theory that women are attracted to gender roles and the advice that you should adhere to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?Blackpill doesn’t have a plan but they have a clue. Dudes that need a plan but are disfigured or mentally unstable are out of luck. No amount of RP will help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:30 AM |
| 6 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?Yeah which is why RP works better on men that have had moderate success. Not basement dwellers thinking they can all of a sudden slay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:20 AM |
| 4 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?I disagree from personal experience. The incel dungeon nerd wonders why he can’t get laid. The guy already getting laid embracing hetero masculine gender roles for the first time in his life has more success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 04:02 AM |
| 6 | Does Red Pill ideology help you in dating?Really huh. I always thought RP was more for the moderately successful who wanted to be better. The men without success are blackpill and that’s their reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure and sex linked biological sex behaviors are still gender roles according to the very definition I already posted for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadfeminine: having qualities or an appearance traditionally associated with women. It incorporates both gender and sex because they cannot be divorced. Drag queens and gay men still rarely fall within a female vocal range, and they are still entirely men. Doesn't matter. Their voice inflections are still considered feminine. Trans women complicate things but generally need to change sex somewhat to achieve this vocal range. How do trans women change their sex, exactly? Can you also turn a male rei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 09:06 PM |
| 5 | Is Alpha Fucks - Beta Bucks dynamic the equivalent of Madonna Whore Complex?Agreed unless we include the pleasure of making the person you are interested in happy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 09:03 PM |
| 5 | Is Alpha Fucks - Beta Bucks dynamic the equivalent of Madonna Whore Complex?It's more about the woman liking you so much that she is requesting , willing and enthusiastic trying to make you happy. The only times I did it was when the woman requested it. Interestingly, the offers dried up after a while and when I asked why, she basically said just that - she only offered it because she thought I would like it. It's basically used as a bargaining chip? Possibly a desperate attempt to stand out from the crowd. Women (and men) will offer up all kinds of crazy shit if they l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 08:22 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe distinction between sex and gender is that sex is to do with our bodies Wrong, and instantly provably false as we assign women to be "feminine" based on their bodies and curves. We do not call curves "female-y." We assign gender to sex characteristics whether you like it or not. Drag queens, when acting the opposite gender, also express sex characteristics of women because we consider gender in the aggregate, not divorced from sex. But voice isn't a role you can choose to adopt or change ent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadInteresting thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah I think so post op? I didn't know there was a pre op Miley lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBehavior: the way in which one acts or conducts oneself, especially toward others. Making noise out of your mouth is not gendered. Like a fart noise or something. But voice inflection is 100% a behavior, and a gendered one at that. Trans people train to change this behavior all the time. So do drag queens. It's like you are from another planet. Listen here alien lady, gay men too change their voice to portray certain feminine characteristics too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:48 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMore like Miley. I have not heard Cher speak in a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:43 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadBruh/Lady, I just gave you the definition... A gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for a person based on that person's sex.[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role a gender role is like being a housewife vs being a provider. That is one traditional gender role out of many behavioral expectations of men and women. do you think breasts are a gender "Rol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:41 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah I would imagine it would be much easier for more LGBT folks who are used to dating outside of heterosexual gender roles in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:39 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI briefly dated a girl with a pretty low voice (for a woman). I actually found it kinda cute lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:38 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadA gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for a person based on that person's sex.[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role Voice inflection, pitch and timbre are 100% a gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:37 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFor sure, never claimed otherwise. So not sure how that is a response to what I said at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:22 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat Megathreadgender roles are two very different things. Hard disagree. Women who have a naturally deeper voice often have reservations about not fitting into standard femininity. A gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for a person based on that person's sex.[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role Gender roles encompass expectations of gender, behaviors and attitu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSure comrade, maybe, maybe not lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadthe majority of people fighting on the "Russian" side are Ukrainian citizens? Hmm.. No one knows whether they are the actual majority lmao. You're just as bad as your Russian propaganda handlers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:14 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLol me too. Would be pretty funny though as a long con prank. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:05 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI know what it is in theory. My observation is that the people so vehemently against gender roles don’t realize just how much they are attracted to them themselves. what you are attracted to is irrelevant The personal is political. It's kind of funny how what men are attracted to and the male gaze is so politicized and rallied against, and then in the next sentence you hear the people with the same opinion rally behind gender roles and claim their attraction to them is irrelevant. Either standar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:03 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI disagree. There is no really such thing as a sex role, only gender roles. Secondary sex characteristics fall under gendered roles, ask trans people. A gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for a person based on that person's sex.[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role Nobody says "she has a very calming biologically female sex voice." We say "she has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDo you even realize that many and maybe the majority of people fighting on the "Russian" side are Ukrainian citizens? Majority? According to whom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 07:01 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWould you still date your SO if they took really good voice acting classes and then spoke like the opposite gender for the rest of their lives? Nothing else about them changes, just their voice. Was thinking about how so obviously attracted and adherent we are to gender roles and how it’s near impossible to escape from a thread I was reading of a trans woman desperately trying to pass in order for her to become attractive. The amount of gender roles we just subconsciously adhere to whether that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think gay men and lesbians don't need to use red pill, fds and debate on subs like this?Eh the idea that gay dating exists outside of gendered expectations is way off. Top, bottom, thinks, hunks, bears etc… are all what is essentially male gender roles, just atypical ones instead of nerd, jock, punk etc… You could say those are not gender roles, but to me and the people who feel pressured to adhere to them, they are a distinction without a difference. The idea that gay men exist outside of realm of gendered expectations is way false. Even talking to my gay male friends, they feel p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLmao! What sources are you actually using here? I’m not sure why you so desperately wish for mass rape to happen. The whole “I hope this mass rape happens so you internet people have their comeuppance!” is a terrible look. Wishing for genocide to own your internet opponent is pathetic on another level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | How to become the "bad boy"Have you ever been to the inner city or bum fuck areas of this country and talked to criminal men? They are trying extremely hard to be hard lol The idea that bad boys do not try to be bad is hilariously wrong and disconnected from the reality of criminal men who actually try very hard to maintain a bad image and lifestyle. It's necessary for them to survive as they don't become a target for the other bad men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 06:09 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah it looks more likely that it will turn to static front lines here soon. Ukraine does not really have the capability for offensive warfare against a near-peer. They have what it takes to maintain defensive posture and poke around with small counter-attacks, but a wide-scale retake of Crimea for instance, is probably out of the question for UA as they currently stand. Like you said, more equipment and more training are going to be needed, but in the meantime, they have to hold the line and co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI prefer the ISW myself for news about the war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 05:07 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFear mongering How so? Russia wants to destroy Ukraine's identity and the incidences of mass rape are well-documented. Absorbing Ukraine involves destroying the Ukrainian identity. Russia has taken a pretty light hand to Ukraine This is a massive c-slur. Russia cannot even establish air superiority. Whole regional defense units are refusing to go to the front and die. Its a minority of loud die hard nationalists and their western backers that wants to fight to the death. Ah, so you only read pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:53 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadUkraine would rather fight and you know, not have their cities raped and pillaged. But you stating you would rather flee and allow the systemic mass rape of your country-women answers my question, thanks for answering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:33 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe only anti-draft people here I've seen are women, but maybe that is bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:32 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnd they need 700K more lol You need a legal framework to mobilize the army and especially logistics to survive large scale combined arms wars. Think more, "you are now an army truck driver. Drive this route. Pick of X, drop off at location Y." Think of the draft less in terms of "here is a rifle, go fight in this trench." The second can be done by the actual army and volunteers. However, the first is just-as if not more necessary to win. Basically, volunteers are terrible at logistics. They do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:17 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIf you were Ukrainian and it was either a) draft to hold the line or b) allow the Russian army to rape and pillage the country... would you support the draft? It seems to me that being anti-draft is a position only afforded to priviledged countries that would never be existentially threatened and the legal framework of conscription will always need to be in some legal code due to the worst case scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:58 PM |
| 1 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.So either women aren’t accepting this “helpful advice” or the guys giving it aren’t satisfied with how low women are going. I'm not sure that is the case? Women AND men very often adjust their standards from what they now believe are very vapid and trivial dating standards. People do this naturally as they age, never mind with the added advice being given. Some women (and men) cling to their lofty ideals. They reject the idea that their dating standards are unrealistic with quips like "you just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:55 PM |
| 9 | A common response to criticizing the current state of dating is “they want us to just fuck ugly dudes” when literally no one is suggesting that. Suggesting average women date in their league or slightly above is not the same as telling them to fuck fat guys.We've given that advice to our female friends that very obviously was not a euphemism to include us in their dating standards lol It's hardly the case that giving the advice to reassess your league is a euphemism to date ugly people. People reassess their standards all the time. I would argue it is part of the maturing process. You stop caring so much about trivial standards you once possessed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:43 PM |
| 4 | Redpill seems to be exploding in popularityThat doesn't really count because it is just unrealistic. If you were Ukrainian and it was either a) draft to hold the line or b) allow the Russian army to rape and pillage the country... what would you choose? The legal framework of a draft is necessary. It's the "price" you pay for living in a society for when that society is under existential threat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 03:36 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: How does women being able to"smell misoginy" line up with women who end up being in abusive relationships?Oddly enough, I've heard more women refer to the dichotomy than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'clear enough intent Again, that is not what you originally said, which is why it is bad advice. That is what you meant to say, maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'I said clear. And this does not mean "clear enough." Flirting with random women at the bar does not offer them "clear" intentions. It might offer them clear enough intent that you do not want to merely be friends although that is less certain as some people just have flirty personalities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Yes, but that is not what you originally said. That is what you clarified as what you meant to say after I talked you off the cliff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Never said You 100% claimed that flirting is clear intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'You're hilarious that you think women who are flirted with at a bar have a clear idea of a man's intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Geez lady. Explain yourself on how flirting with a random at a bar is making your intent CLEAR. The more common response from women is going to be "does he like me or does he just wanna fuck." It's about the opposite of clarifying your intent as you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Lady my god, nobody considers flirting with anyone as "clear intent." This is you not understanding how flirting works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'wtf haha this is a debate sub, if you don't want your advice to be debated and picked apart, don't post it lmao The entire point of the sub is to pick apart and debate dating advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Just remember that nobody considers flirting to be "making your intent clear." I've already given my advice to OP in the comment thread above by the way. This is a discussion and debate on your advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Lady...I'm trying to get you to give better advice and to improve yourself at this point. If your statement meant to read: "flirting, despite being extremely ambiguous at least displays romantic interest..." then fine. But you wrote, "make your intent clear," which is probably the least effective advice and worst way to say what you actually meant. Literally nobody considers flirting with someone at a bar to be "making your intent clear." It's fucking bonkers that you insist this is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'"Clear enough" is not the same as "clear." Well least you've stepped back from the cliff of proclaiming "clear intent" and are now at the more reasonable claim that flirting is clear enough signal of intent. Nothing about flirting proclaims clear intent in any way. It signals extremely ambiguous intent, not clear intent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 07:00 PM |
| 3 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Remember that women are passive investors in courtship. Or in the other words they consume romance, not create. So if you created a bad romantic environment, whether that is because your intent was clear or unclear, coming off too strong or too weak, it is your fault and they will default to how you actually should have been creating a better environment regardless of what you were actually doing. Remember also that women have pretty delicate sensibilities, so as to not offend, and so they cast … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'But they know you don't just want to be friends, avoiding the "friendzone" which is what this thread is about. Sure, but again, your intent is still not clear. If your advice is to make your intent clear then merely flirting would not necessarily signal any intent and certainly not any CLEAR intent. You have unrealistic expectations of advice from forums. This is a debate forum. We are debating your poor advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'Wrong. Flirting conveys that that message pretty clearly. Flirting is one of the most ambiguous things you can do. It's on the opposite spectrum of making your intentions clear. The opposite party does not know if you just wanna fuck, playing it cool, flirting for fun or want a relationship. It's about the furthest from making your intent clear as possible and your insistence on flirting being a clear display of intent leads me to question if you have ever even flirted with anyone before. It's b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 06:03 PM |
| 5 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'You understand that flirting in and of itself is signaling the direction you want to go in? Also you have now moved your goalposts to "signal the direction you want to go" from "make your romantic intentions clear early on." Which is just poor debate etiquette. Those two sentences could not be further different in practice and interpretation. When your advice is "make intentions clear" it gives the vibe that you are supposed to have a sit down discussion on what your intentions are. It's bad adv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 05:20 PM |
| 12 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'romantic intentions clear early on. What ever happened to romantic ambiguity? Proclaiming your intentions early on is flawed in many ways but the first one is that you often don't really know what your intentions are because you don't even know that person. Secondly, the point of flirting, banter, being ambiguous, push-pull etc.. are all to feel the other person out and come to terms with your intentions. Not sure what you really meant, but I find this advice often puts the cart before the horse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 03:36 PM |
| 30 | Being "a good listener" made me prone to being 'friend zoned'The idea is to never be friends with them. Be on a level of only niceties and banter / flirting. Go ahead and have female friends but make them distinct from the women you are actually interested in. Don't sit there listening to the problems of women you are interested in unless you only want to be friends which can we rewarding in and of itself. . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Idk you’d have to ask those people. I’ve seen it here used in response to women who are struggling with dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:46 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?That doesn’t make sense to be emotionally distraught over it like the user above though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:48 AM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Again, I'm asking you a personal question about your "additional point." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?I'm replying to what you are typing? When you said: incels talk about it constantly. Why does that matter to you? And why does this impact your opinion on the subject? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:57 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?First how would you measure biology traits? That's besides the point as scientists are still debating this. We have legitimate scientific discourse on how mate selection does not magically materialize into existence solely by society. This is enough to make me caution making claims as strong as mate selection being simply based on personal choice. Your point that we can't draw the line conclusively somewhere is my point. We can't make a determination one way or another, hence why I disagree with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?No lol. If preferences are influenced by biology even slightly, then preferences are not necessarily subjective as they are no longer based solely on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. This is how words work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?But then how do you explain the massive popularity of kpop idols who are nothing like that and they even wear make up. Biology doesn't DETERMINE certain traits. We can acknowledge the idea that biology exists and then social upbringings can cause natural tendencies to deviate. It's like you are skipping the entire first step and claiming social tendencies are all responsible. Humans are massively complex social creatures, but they are still creatures. Also I find that predominately pre-teens lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:26 PM |
| 7 | Both Men And Women In "Normal" Society Acknowledge Alpha Fux Beta BuxIt's female version is: "You should meet my friend? She has a great personality." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:21 PM |
| 0 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?If you agree that the beholder is one based on (at least partly) biology then we agree. Tastes in music are subjective, but at the same time, the human desire for rhythm and patterns is based on biological mechanisms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 05:15 PM |
| 0 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Being beautiful is subjective and are tied to beauty standards. You can't really make this determination as it is still up to debate even by evolutionary scientists and biologists alike. In the aggregate, it's probably not subjective. But there are certainly deviations to the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?And I'm discussing the reasoning behind why you channel incel spaces in your opinions stated above? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?I'm genuinely curious about why you feel this way. Can you answer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:03 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Again, I'm not sure why incel opinions matters so much to you and you haven't explained why. Do you also allow Nazi forums to dictate your views on race? Why should incel forums dictate my view on gender? Why do incel discussions on hair loss dictate your opinions on hair loss? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:01 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Sure, okay. We established this already. Again, who cares that men online are telling women to do something they already are doing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 04:01 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?So why argue if you know it's true that women lower their standards? Like why even be upset at men telling women that when women in fact do lower their standards? Who cares that men online are telling women to do something they already are doing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:57 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?I don't really care what incels talk about and what they talk about doesn't factor into any of my opinions on this lol I'm not sure why their opinion matters so much to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?I would argue most people lower their physical attraction standards as they mature and oftentimes consider the dealbreakers of their early 20's vain, shallow and self-defeating. Divorce the concepts of lowering your standards with "settling." Most people lower their standards in a technical sense and yet never feel as though they settled. Priorities often readjust as you gain some life experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:48 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?but thinning hair is rarely mentioned Huh, as someone with an aunt with thinning hair it really fucked with her, far more than my male uncles who have lost hair. I think we just have different perspectives and experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:46 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?The facts are what they are. Whether or not you consider it "revenge" or actually have empathy for the empty lives of many lonely young women and men is up to you. You can control how you react to things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:41 PM |
| 4 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Really? Female hair loss is much more stigmatized and de-feminizing. That's why the French resistance shaved the heads of French girls who slept with Nazis. If you shaved my head, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I'd much rather deal with going bald as a dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:39 PM |
| 3 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?You don't seem okay with it lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:37 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Forty percent of women have visible hair loss by the time they are age 40, according to the American Academy of Dermatology. It's not obvious that women don't deal with baldness and men do. Both genders deal with it and choose how to remedy it. Some men just shave, others actually treat the issue like women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 6 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Are you talking to me or a person you made up in your own head? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?https://www.mayoralderm.com/men-women-and-wrinkles-who-gets-more-as-they-age/#:~:text=Since%20estrogen%20contributes%20to%20skin,have%20deeper%20wrinkles%20than%20men. It's complex but the fact is that men will have better skin than women as they age - all else being equal. Men will show considerably fewer and less deep wrinkles, for instance. The issue is that men don't really take care of their skin; they wear less sunscreen, apply less lotion, and generally use less anti-aging creams or skin … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Consensual casual sex isn't the problem, it's toxic people being two-faced or reckless or hateful that's the problem.Idk, they are equally shitty in my book. Reminds me of the spouses of serial killers. Like okay, they technically didn’t do the crime but they knew, loved and enjoyed spending time with this person. As far as I’m concerned they are both shitty people and/or so damaged that they deserve each other. Damaged and shitty people should have their own dating site where they are forced only to interact with themselves. I say it’s a good thing they find each other as it takes them out of the dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Consensual casual sex isn't the problem, it's toxic people being two-faced or reckless or hateful that's the problem.If she’s sleeping with a shitty dude then she’s probably a shitty person herself or very broken in some way. I say encourage these matches. Takes the dirt out of the dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Hypothesis: If Tinder and the other OLD apps made a 5 match-at-a-time limitation that would greatly enhance OLD for the majority of users. (And greatly diminish the profit from the apps)They all demand attention. No they don't. There are thousands of thirsty men online who give one-way attention lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Imagine your most controversial reddit account, posts and comments become publicly linked to you. How would your husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend react, as well as friends and family? Would you lose any relationships?Not sure what you are trying to say or what your point is. Can you reword? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:03 PM |
| 8 | Imagine your most controversial reddit account, posts and comments become publicly linked to you. How would your husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend react, as well as friends and family? Would you lose any relationships?She is more critical of women than I am. Women on reddit forget that 50% of women are pro-life, never mind having hot takes on gender dynamics and dating themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDamn, it wasn’t entirely irrelevant though. Your guy has similar vibes but it feels a little different if they get to nest at her place too lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 09:16 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWas he technically homeless though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnyone ever meet a male hobosexual? Visited a coffee shop over the weekend where I met this barista a while ago now who was sleeping with this middle aged professional woman who was regularly out of town and she let him stay at her place. He also fucked other women in it. He was a good looking guy but I still found it impressive he was pulling it off. I thought of how sad female hobosexuals are in comparison, who are essentially homeless prostitutes forced into sleeping with men for places to st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo I prefer my wife to work corporate and make a lot of money so I can relax and work a less demanding job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 05:47 PM |
| -1 | Mental health issues between men and women… it’s generally assumed we are taking about the American dating scene unless stated otherwise for your future reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 02:21 AM |
| -2 | Mental health issues between men and womenOf course. This is an US focused subreddit on an American website. Really, nobody cares about the dating dynamics in Saudi. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 01:08 AM |
| 0 | Mental health issues between men and womenQuote me where I said all women. Most women and men are fat period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 12:23 AM |
| -1 | Mental health issues between men and womenall or most women who seek mental health issues are overweight or fat. This is statisically true. Most people are overweight or fat, never mind the ones who suffer from some mental illness. People with enduring mental health problems are two to three times more likely to develop obesity and related disorders such as diabetes and heart disease. https://www.obesityaction.org/resources/obesity-and-mental-health-is-there-a-link/ https://www.goodrx.com/well-being/healthy-mind/obesity-and-mental-healt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Mental health issues between men and womenHonestly, I think they doctor shop until a doctor prescribes them or diagnoses them with something. Many doctors say things like "try exercising more" and then the patient becomes defensive, calls them a big yikes sweaty fatphobic, and finds a doctor willing to prescribe them meds instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 06:51 PM |
| 2 | If you’re reading this as some who frequents PurplePillDebates, I challenge you to get below 11% body fat just once in your lifeBruh I feel you. I was below two digits when I was in collegiate wrestling. That shit is behind me and I refuse to not eat chipotle nowadays. I get your point and all but I’m past that lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 04:35 AM |
| 6 | Roe v. Wade Mega-ThreadYeah lol her response to you assumes these women are currently sleeping with incels lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 10:27 PM |
| 0 | Why don't men demand tall and strong partners the way women do?Men and taller and stronger than women. We call these “masculine” gendered traits. Heterosexuality is the attraction to these opposite sex characteristics. Then, to attract mates and identify yourself, people exaggerate those sex traits and then then into gendered traits. Men go to the gym because strength is masculine. Women shave their bodies because the absence of body hair is feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistCan you read sentences and not take the literal opposite meaning of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistThere is no lying lol Putting on a show, flirting, being funny, etc... is not "lying." Why are you moralizing everything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:49 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistSeeing dating from a capitalistic/game approach is a problem Maybe it's a problem for you? Dating as competition between same-sex members of your species for the attention of the opposite sex is the most natural, animalistic tendency besides breathing and eating. I don't know of a single mammal or primate that does NOT engage in these acts. why she’s interested in Prince because she has a tattoo of the “love symbol” on her wrist. This is exactly the type of sales pitch that is needed, correct. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:41 PM |
| 3 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistAre you illiterate? The idea is that these things ARE NOT NECESSARILY DISHONEST OR A BELIEF THAT ANY PARTICULAR PARTNERSHIP WOULDNT BE MUTUALLY BENEFICAL. It's like you read what I wrote and then took the literal opposite meaning of the words that were written. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistWhat do you mean? Why does it matter if it's only for sex if that's only what she wants too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:38 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistWomen just want sex too. Plenty of women sucking dick in portapotties over the weekend in various festivals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistFlirting, hamming it up, back and forth teasing, shit testing, makeup etc... all these things are acts humans put on in a dance that is dating. That doesn't necessarily mean they are dishonest or don't think dating a particular individual wouldn't be mutually beneficial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:34 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexist(for sex) No I didn't say that lol. Could be for dating and marriage. Could be for sex if that is all she desires. Do you not believe women have agency? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:32 PM |
| 2 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistThat's nonsensical. Women apply makeup (sometimes) because they are trying to impress a man. That doesn't necessarily mean she is dishonest or doesn't think dating him would be mutually beneficial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistSure, but nowhere did I say it was just a show for sex. You are making things up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistEven in sales I don't want to sell to someone who isn't going to genuinely benefit from buying Men think the woman will benefit from accepting what he is selling. Your analogy is terrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistWhy not just be a guy who makes people feel safe because he isn't trying to take advantage of or hurt anyone? Explain how to do this without acting in a particular way? You would obviously act in some way to accomplish this. If not, then a mannequin could literally take your place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 06:25 PM |
| 0 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistWell yeah, but who is arguing the hobo screaming at the woman on the platform just needs more persistence? Men need advice on how to use their fundamental advantages of being a man properly. Make her feel comfortable, safe etc... things you can do to make her feel a certain way. Using your "fundamental advantages" can go either way I suppose, but rarely do women want to feel uncomfortable or unsafe. It's less about the advantages themselves or even attraction and more about tact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 03:04 PM |
| -1 | As a man, I think the men here who utilize their fundamental advantages of being a man in society get called creepy and sexistpersistence in the face of rejection, Genuine self-improvement for any sales tactic is going to acknowledge persistence in the face of rejection. How to frame conversations, steer away from certain subjects, respond properly to uncertainty and concern etc.. People all do this without thinking about it and without making it into this big moralizing issue. Say you invite a girl out to a bar and she expresses concern about being downtown or that she might get home late. You assure her that you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 4 | How do people on this sub view queer and gay relationships?Ehh my gay friends have expressed some level of frustration with being shoehorned into roles - twink, hunk, bear, dyke, lipstick lesbian etc… its really a distinction without a difference compared to any gender roles with regards to dating dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 04:53 AM |
| 4 | CMV: No one should drop their standards for any reason whatsoever, and high standards are eminently reasonableSure, but lowering your unrealistic standards is not necessarily settling either. That’s what you are conflating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 04:36 AM |
| 3 | CMV: No one should drop their standards for any reason whatsoever, and high standards are eminently reasonableI think in all these discussions, lowering one’s standards is conflated with “settling.” Like sure you should never feel as though you settled but signals are being crossed here where people are advising an attitude adjustment that you are not entitled to a prince/princess and you should become more realistic with a lifetime of misery feeling as though you have “settled,” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 04:26 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Bro men are far more likely to be randomly attacked on the street. Men have far more to worry about, statistically speaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Is it actually unreasonable for men to politely decline friendship with women who reject them romantically?just pretending to give a shit about you This is unnecessarily moralizing and uncharitable. The idea that meeting someone, and crushing over them is simply "pretending to give a shit about them just for sex" is just not true. Genuine desire makes you care for someone beyond just sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Are the anonymous insights from women useful or shit tests to help filter out the naturals?Partly, yes. I also think that nobody is going to give advice on what works on them if that advice has poor implications. If a woman was so deeply in love with a manipulative man, she still wouldn't necessarily advise manipulation despite the fact that it might have "worked" on her to become deeply infatuated with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.Nobody is talking about laws here but you. Dating “rules” like the OP states are not laws and she wasn’t advocating any legislation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Okay as long as you admit that some of them do, then I’m glad I at least talked you off the edge just a bit. And at that enjoy our weekend. And for the record, obviously not ALL biological processes are gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Do you still believe that gender roles do not refer to acts related to biological processes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Women are expected to breastfeed. That is a gender role correct. You’re agreeing with me lol just like men are expected to be strong. “Sex roles” are not a thing. Gender roles also refer to societal expectations based on biology or sex too as I linked above. Just because something is a biological function doesn’t mean it’s not a gender role. And I’m glad you’ve finally admitted to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Gender roles are how society expects you to act with regards to your assigned sex. That’s what they are lol and those acts include breastfeeding. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/what-are-gender-roles-and-stereotypes#:~:text=What%20are%20gender%20roles%3F,polite%2C%20accommodating%2C%20and%20nurturing. Men are generally expected to be strong, aggressive, and bold. Male strength is biological. Sorry, sex roles and gender roles are not divorced concepts. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone actually jumped on a guys dick after he just pulls it out, a la Elon? One wonders why they think it has a chance in the first place. I can’t believe anyone is that stupid.I didn't see that word anywhere in the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone actually jumped on a guys dick after he just pulls it out, a la Elon? One wonders why they think it has a chance in the first place. I can’t believe anyone is that stupid.Happens successfully in the gay scene all the time lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Don't men also consent to relationships?I hate it all the same 😂 And it’s not even a response to my comment. The dude is not typically unhappy in such a relationship. I even said that a healthy relationship is possible and that the dude is typically thankful. It’s femcel nonsense to buzzword and strawman and then attack a made up dude that they invented in their own head. It's so annoying too. The dude is probably relatively happy with his average fat wife. Nowhere did I claim the guy is unhappy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Great response lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 06:01 PM |
| 5 | Don't men also consent to relationships?It's constrained from the fact that many men are thankful that any particular women likes him and goes with that women. For many men, consent is constrained due to their small amount of choice and desire to be with someone. So for these men, they are consenting to relationships but not because they particularly want that women specifically, but because she is the only one he could possibly get. That being said, it's not like love is impossible or a healthy relationship is not in the cards, it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?I think that is fair point, actually. But in college, you are marketed against every other dude and nearly everyone is single. By the time you are 30, its all single moms and desperate women who want kids. The market is far more in your favor, and even if you are around less women, you are still more desirable to those women - hence your SMV is higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 05:06 PM |
| 6 | Don't men also consent to relationships?I think so. They eventually consent to relationships, if not necessarily at the outset. And men to get all caught up on a single girl, even attractive ones. Men consent to relationships for the simple fact that men can and often dump their girlfriends. I think their ability to consent is certainly constrained though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Being in or outside of college does not change your SMV. Therefore, we have to adjust for college being a variable if we are discussing how easy it is to date based on your SMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 03:58 PM |
| 3 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?All else being equal, Do you know what that phrase means? It means a thought experiment parameter where that guy is in the same place around the same amount of people all within close proximity. ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL would mean that the 30 yr old stud would be in a college setting for 30 year olds lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?No. In your analogy, nipples would not be a gender role. Breastfeeding is what a woman may do with her nipples and is an action that is a gendered role. Which is why trans-women often desire to breastfeed. Don't conflate it with sex, which is biological. There are no "sex roles" only gender roles. Gender roles also refer to biological processes. Forcing women to become pregnant would is still a gender role despite being a biological process. Gender roles can be forcing women to become pregnant o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Go ahead and elaborate. Women breastfeeding rates are this way because they feel the pressure of gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.They smile at men in bars etc… lots of ways women signal they are open to being approached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yes because people see breastfeeding as part of the gender role of being a mother. The study shows how people do not divorce breastfeeding from gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:11 PM |
| 4 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?That is one part. The market of your weight class also changes. You’re going to be slammin lots of single moms at 30 and women who want BABIES NOW. So the women change too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:11 AM |
| 8 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Weight class is an analogy, not literal lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 12:02 AM |
| 3 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?Same weight class my boo boo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?You just said she was playing a particular gender role. Yes, a particular one, a slut lol the word slut is nothing more than hate for people that have had sex. Not according to her. I don't think you get to decide what defines her femininity and sexuality. She was roleplaying a promiscuous women and wanted to be treated with hate. Wanting to be degraded is not a gender role either. It can be, for sure. Just like men enjoy femdom and roleplay as submissive men. That's a gender role too, although … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Nobody said that they are. My girlfriend was roleplaying a PARTICULAR woman, not all women. She was roleplaying a fantasy role of a particular woman, a loose whore whose only value was her body; it is a particular gender role. That doesn’t mean all women are that way or any certain way. That also doesn’t define all women or femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?If I am roleplaying a female rape victim then I am roleplaying a particular female gender role. If I am roleplaying a female rapist, then I am also roleplaying a particular female gender role. If I am roleplaying as a man then I am playing a male gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yes it is. A slut is a derogatory term for a particular woman who engages in certain acts and roles. Anyway, when my ex wanted me to call her that, that is how she was using the term. "treat me like a slut" "call me a dumb whore" These are all acts with meaning, where she was roleplaying a particular set of gendered traits and wanted to feel degraded based on the very gendered role she was playing. Raceplay is different than gender play. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?You are the only person that mentioned a school boy. Wtf are you even talking about?? We are discussing a roleplay where I am playing a boy being raped by his teacher. You would be her female rapist. If I am acting out a female rapist, then I would be roleplaying a female gender role. A particularly dominate woman, but a woman nonetheless and therefore still a female gender role. This isn't hard to understand, if I am acting as a woman, I am acting a female gender role regardless of how dominant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?A slut is a female gender role, sorry. You might be referring to "man-whore" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yes, absolutely. That's my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?According to her, maybe? But I would still be playing a schoolboy per your instruction, so hence, I would still be playing a male gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?It's no longer masculine or a male gender role Nowhere did I claim that it was or was not a masculine gender role. Even if it's a submissive role, it's still a submissive male gender role. It's still a schoolboy hence, it will be roleplay as a boy. If her rapist was a woman than all of those actions of spitting, calling her a slut, and raping her are now feminine. "Slut" is a derogatory name for a woman, not a man. A slut is a female gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Nobody said it was. A female rapist roleplay would be still roleplaying a female gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?You sentences are not clear, nor concise. You can act femininely as a schoolboy male gender role. Anytime you act as a schoolboy you are acting as a male gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?This is not hard. If I am playing a schoolboy I am playing a male gender role. If I am playing a schoolgirl, I am playing a female gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?You are indeed acting feminine in bed to copy her female abuser. Nobody is claiming this except for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Particular female role. How would I play a female role if I was playing a male role? Being raped is neither female nor male. It happens to men too. And I could play either the male gender role of rape victim or female gender role of rape victim. Regardless, I'd be playing a gender role in each case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?No, you would be role playing as a female. So I am pretending to be a schoolgirl? Then I would be roleplaying a female gender role. If I am roleplaying a schoolboy, then I would be roleplaying as a boy. If I am roleplaying a schoolgirl, I am roleplaying as a girl lol It's that simple. Gender roles are not solely defined by submissiveness or dominance. A boy can be raped and be submissive. A girl roleplaying as a rape survivor is acting in a female gender role because she is roleplaying as a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Sure. However, we cannot divorce the idea of the act with gender roles because it is oftentimes about them, although not necessarily about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:58 PM |
| 45 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?I think the potential is greater for men within their own weight class. All else being equal, men will find it easier to date as they approach 30. If you were a stud in college, and you are still be a stud at 30, you will find it easier to get laid, especially casually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?That was your definition. Quote me. Nowhere did I say that. Ff her attacker was female you would be acting as a woman in bed. Incorrect. I am roleplaying as a male. Hence I am acting as a man, even if that man might have feminine qualities according to you, it is still a male gender role. You could roleplay as the same man too. And you'd be acting out a male gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?be acting feminine in bed, because you are literally serving as the woman assailant in her trauma coping. According to you, but not me. That's how you defined it. Quote me. You are literally role playing her assailant who happened to be male. Yes, role playing as man, not as a woman. Hence, I would still be playing a MALE GENDER role. Maybe this man has certain feminine qualities (according to you) but his gender is still male and hence, I am still playing a male gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Listen to what you are saying lol Sure, if you were roleplaying as a male predator and I was roleplaying as a female rape victim, then I would be playing the female gender role and you would be the male gender role. This not the "gotcha" you think it is. It would be hilarious to watch though lol You would be playing a "man" therefore acting out a gender role, and I would be performing as a "woman" therefore acting out a gender role. Cool acting exercise that would be though. We would both have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Depends. Are we roleplaying me as a 17 year old schoolboy being raped by his teacher? Then not necessarily. I could still be acting masculine and she could be acting dominate and feminine. Why are you so confused by this? We are obviously playing varying gender roles when we enact such fantasies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?No, it's replaying mental trauma. That is besides the point. I am roleplaying a male predator and she is roleplaying a female unwilling participant. I agree its a coping mechanism though, but again it's still roleplaying gender roles. It is literally me playing a particular male role and her playing a particular female role. The idea that we are not playing gender roles is incorrect. We are indeed playing very specific gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Agreed. It seems impossible and tedious to me. Just engage in what you enjoy, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Feminists care a lot about male on female sexual assault for it to not being a female thing lol I don't think they are solely female things, but enacting those scenarios in bed is obviously role playing a male predator and an unwilling female participant. It is inarguably reenacting certain gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yeah, fair revision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?The more against gender roles as a concept a woman was, the more she was into feminine humiliation kinks. Being spit on, being called a slut, rape play etc... roleplay fantasies obviously mired in gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?They are that too, and more. Telling women they must breastfeed is a gender role as well. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11136342/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?You cannot quote me saying any of that lmao. You are strawmanning or reading what someone else wrote. Not every female gender role is submissive and not every male gender role is dominant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yes. Traditional men in ancient greece actually viewed penetration as masculine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/aug/16/helenasmith I don't necessarily agree, but being penetrated is viewed as traditionally submissive and this is an OP about traditional gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?submissive act and feminine gender role according to you. Nowhere did I say that and you certainly can't quote me. Not every female gender role is submissive and not every male gender role is dominant. Take a step back and relax. Stop strawmanning and read what I am writing. There's nothing masculine about 2 lesbians in bed Not necessarily true. There is something obviously masculine/feminine about a butch lesbian fucking a lipstick lesbian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?So men that eat pussy like lesbians are acting like women? No? Men have been traditionally eating pussy since Ancient Greece and probably before. If anything, not eating pussy is not adhering to the traditional role of men in hetero relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:02 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Eh, it can and more often than not does. The kink is very much about gender roles and the reversal of them. Do you think that pegging has no relation to gender roles? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 07:00 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?I think ascribing gender roles to sexual activities is a mistake across the board. Why? Do you think that pegging has no relation to gender roles? It seems to obviously have some relation to gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Disagree. A parent who tells their daughter that she must eventually become a mother is advocating a gender role. Colloquially, we do not separate "gender roles" and "sex roles." In fact, "sex roles" are not even really a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Then by default a man that gets pegged isn't acting like a traditional man Correct, obviously. Is that supposed to be your gotcha? Obviously a man being pegged is not acting like a traditional man. Who are you to define their sex life, with a women, as not traditionally masculine? Traditional gender roles are the discussion. You are acting like I invented them lol or adhere or advocate to them lmao stop being weird. You are acting like I invented the idea of traditional gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:51 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Sure, nobody said otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?So is birthing and being a mother. Yet we consider motherhood a gender role. 'Sex roles' and 'gender roles' are not divorced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?by claiming a woman pegging them is acting masculine Quote me where I said that. I said that a woman pegging a man is not engaging in the (traditional) female gender role and that heterosexual couple is certainly acting outside the bounds of gender roles. That doesn't mean she is necessarily acting masculine. Lots of lesbians and women peg without acting masculine. Although, there are plenty of people who would argue that a man being pegged is acting feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Sure of course guys like being pegged and aren't necessarily gay or feminine. Nobody here claimed otherwise. Being pegged is certainly not the traditional male heterosexual gender role though which is what this OP is asking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Are you saying their partners are no long masculine because they can't fuck them? Nobody is saying that lmao do you always strawman like this in every conversation? The simple fact of the matter is that a penis penetrating a vagina are two gender roles. It's a role that one man and one woman plays. Gender roles will always exist so as long as there are genders. Genders are DEFINED by the roles each gender plays. If neither are you are playing any gender roles, then neither of you would be a man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:40 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Pegging drives the point home. If no pegging, then you are still adhering to some level of a gender role. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:36 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yes, literally nobody is saying that doesn't happen. I've mostly experienced more submissive types of women, and when they are dominate, it has a feminine twist to it, but literally nowhere did I say that this doesn't happen. I know a few butch lesbians who describe sex as such - which is kind of the point here. If that is how you have sex every time you have sex and you enjoy it, then more power to you. I think the vast majority of heterosexual couples prefer gender roles, no pegging etc.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Yeah I get what you are saying there! I just oftentimes see people proclaim that "don't believe in gender roles" synonymous with the idea that they do not engage in any gender roles, and that is just so obviously and easily disproven. Maybe it's because I've always lived in east coast cities and people are oftentimes trying to signal their virtues instead of actually living their life with any sort of truthful introspection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.Yeah, when you have good and attractive female friends, they are often the ones to tell you to go approach other women lol "Hey that girl so gave you X signal." or "she looked over at you" etc etc.. women will tell you when other women are asking for an approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:22 PM |
| -1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?No, I never said that. Being dominate in bed certainly can be a gender role though. There are feminine ways women can be dominate in bed too. Like a sexy teacher roleplay can be feminine, dominate and sexy. It's also a female gender role too though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:17 PM |
| -1 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?It's a kink for sure, but that is besides the point. Gender roles exist in bed. Lots of men enjoy being pegged because they like the reversal of gender roles. It's impossible to escape gender roles or to "not believe in them" so as long as gender exists. So even if you like pegging, you like it due to the existence of gender roles, not because you "don't believe in them" or whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.See, what you're missing is that by and large men aren't 'just soldiering on'. They're taking a couple steps back. I agree with you. Most men take a step back, and down, into their basements. That's why RP calls today the golden age of alpha men or whatever. And this is why it's important to have a good friend group - especially of women. I've always lived in cities but rarely have I been rejected and have it impact my social life. The people and women I have around vouch for me. I've accepted t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?Do you only always peg him too? I don't think you have escaped gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:12 PM |
| -4 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?My experience is no. I've dated radlibs before and the idea that they truly "didn't believe" in gender roles is false. What they mean by "gender roles" is that they don't want to clean up after you lol In fact, from my experience, the more they hated gender roles, the more they desired them, especially in bed. I've honestly never experienced it and I personally doubt anyone who says they don't believe in gender roles truly lives by such a mantra. It's just impractical? Like why would I expect my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:10 PM |
| -3 | Question 4 WOMEN: What is your opinion on traditional gender roles and do you adhere to any yourself?I don't believe in them I find that some are inescapable, and therefore we can't really say I "don't believe in them." They exist in nearly every relationship. I've never met a couple that did not adhere to a single gender role. I'm trying to imagine such a relationship now. The girl would typically initiate sex and always have to peg the man. The man would breastfeed the baby. Sounds intriguing to observe but outside of porn, not sure it even exists. Very rarely would you find a woman being wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.You ultimately have to accept that you will eventually make women feel uncomfortable... but you soldier on knowing you made every attempt to be respectful and kind. You really can't let it bother you. Some women are just bad people, and women show violence and contempt in different ways than men. And at the end of the day, being kicked out of a bar or rejected by a woman is not a big deal. It won't impact your mortgage application. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.It's just too context dependent to have hard rules like the OP is stating. Should you approach a girl in a subway? In most contexts, no. However, I've dated a girl I met on the subway when it broke down and we were forced to share a cab. It was that laugh, eye-contact and off-handed comment about the shitty subway that defused her internal walls that allowed me to segue into sharing a cab and then ultimately getting her number and then dating. There is no sense in having hard fast rules about wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.I've had far more success approaching women in bars, clubs, venues, mutual places of interests, on vacation etc... than OLD. OLD is brutally competitive and statistically produces worse results while also being a time suck opportunity cost. Instead of swiping right all night long, you should be at the climbing gym chatting to gym rats and having fun. OLD is probably the worst thing you could possibly do. I think when women hear "cold approach" they think of the homeless man shouting "YOOO SHORTY… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Men should stop Cold Approaching.And? Women in other settings are oftentimes consenting to being approached as well. Places like bars, clubs, concerts etc.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 05:27 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderNo they do not lol as that’s waist hip ratio is considered feminine. Scientists mean it as it is written. It’s an attribute associated with women. That’s all that feminine means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 11:52 AM |
| 1 | The existence of genderYes they are lol you don’t think people consider breasts, certain hip-to-waist ratios feminine? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24202830/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 11:46 AM |
| 1 | The existence of genderBreasts are sex characteristics that are considered feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 11:38 AM |
| 1 | The existence of genderStop being a spoop. Have a fun Friday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The existence of genderAs long as you admit that gender can refer to sex characteristics we are all set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 11:32 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderGender can refer to sex characteristics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderYou can’t divorce the concepts. There are many physical characteristics that we consider feminine as a society because femininity by definition are things associated with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:58 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderNobody is saying “just.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:32 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderAppropriating the opposite sex IS femininity in this case. Femininity is simply things associated with the female sex. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/femininity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:27 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderNowhere did I claim that gender is NECESSARILY associated with sex. I said that this is how people use the words and perceive it. People do not divorce the two concepts because they cannot be divorced. For instance, drag queens not only tuck but they also stuff their bras. People associate femininity with sex expression just as much as they do with makeup and personality traits that are on display at a drag show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:24 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderYou are said they are separated two categories. A separated marriage is called a divorce. Do you not understand the use of the word as an analogy? Do you not understand analogies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:20 PM |
| 2 | The existence of genderYou can’t divorce the two categories. They are interconnected. Which is why a man struggles with emasculation after his balls are blown off when he steps on a landmine. If they were two entirely separate and distinct categories then the man would feel no disconnect between his masculinity and his balls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 09:06 PM |
| 2 | The existence of genderHaha I’m sure all the trans people using GENDER reassignment surgery to refer breasts and penises are using the term incorrectly. Or the idea that breasts are feminine are just using the terms incorrectly. They are not. Gender and sex are not separate and distinct. They are intertwined and interconnected and are often used interchangeably. Which is why breasts are desired by trans wome. They are considered a gendered trait. And it reaffirms them to get the surgery (or hormones). The idea that yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 08:41 PM |
| 2 | The existence of genderNo…Personality traits are not only gender. This is why trans get GENDER reassignment surgery. Breasts are considered a part of your gender expression. They are categorized as a feminine gendered trait. Breasts are considered feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 08:40 PM |
| 2 | The existence of genderThe idea that breasts are feminine and strength is masculine is not a "vague trend." There are many aspects to gender that are not simply vague trends. Other aspects, sure, are vague. I think humans are predisposed to find and categorize patterns even vague trends. I don't even know where to begin on how to de-program humans away from this but it gets into some weird dystopian levels of human social engineering that I think would almost certainly require bioengineering. The idea that everyone sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 08:09 PM |
| 2 | The existence of genderYeah, I am not arguing that it's not a social construct. My point was that some are more arbitrarily constructed than others. And that sex and gender as constructs are clearly not distinct and different to the point where you can claim that they "do not refer to the same things" because they very often very much do. Why are so many LGBTQ people so terminally online? I can't be good for you mentally. Take a break. I took a nice long break. It was really pleasant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 07:30 PM |
| 4 | women are not more red pilled than menSure, but that's just arguing semantics at that point. That is what people here mean when they say "women are red-pilled by design." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | The existence of genderHow could it not? Male and female primates of all species act differently. Categorizing these differences inherently gives rise to "gender" for those respective species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 06:29 PM |
| 3 | The existence of genderThey often do mean the same thing. We consider breasts to be feminine. Less hair to be feminine. Things associated with the female sex are very often considered feminine and therefore, gendered. Sure, there are obvious things like the color pink where it is clearly arbitrary, but gender and sex often refer to the same thing like gender reassignment surgery. You could say that only you and a handful of terminally online people use the terms correctly but at that point you are no different than Ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 06:23 PM |
| 6 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?Is your flair ironic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 03:06 PM |
| 6 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?I don't blame you, but you are essentially admitting that "it's creepy when you do it." lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 03:05 PM |
| 7 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?When you're in a social setting where you're with a group and the whole group wants to get together with another, that's very different from a one-on-one interaction. True, but that's my point. You defaulted to a creepiest interaction you could possibly conjure in your head of walking up to a stranger instead of being a little more imaginative and charitable when speaking to strangers and having positive interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?Well there has to be some level of rapport established, no? Were you assuming "giving out your number to a stranger" is akin to like those people handing out those prostitute business cards on the strip of Vegas? Obviously, words have to be spoken or else yeah, it would understandably be unsettling for men or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 02:19 PM |
| 8 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?No. They were just in the boat docked adjacent to ours. It's not uncommon for boaters to anchor together and party. He just kinda shouted at them "hey where you guys going tomorrow. let's meet" And trust me, during covid when all the bars and clubs were closed, girls were dying to get out and party on the water away from the covid fun police. We would anchor at beaches in the bay that were closed for anyone on shore, but as long as you were on boat the cops couldn't do anything. It was the most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 02:11 PM |
| 20 | Ladies: have you ever approached a total stranger and gave them your number?When I was a server in college girls gave me their number. It wasn't super common but it "worked." During COVID we were drinking docked up and a friend gave his number to a girl in the boat next to us and we all met the next day at an anchorage in the bay. Had a great time. I think they still see each other. When women visualize giving and receiving numbers, they think of the absolute creepiest, most unsettling interactions like a random dude on the train or at the grocery store stalking them. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.The STATE or nation ceases to exist, not the land (unless of course it's nuclear annihilation). The state becomes a different state entirely. You're being dense and ridiculous lol Politicians and people don't want to live as a colony (generally). They desire their own sovereignty. That is why abolishing the draft is a political non-starter. If your job as a politician is to uphold the government of the nation, then you essentially have to support the draft in a time where it is needed to uphold … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 03:11 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Nobody is claiming it’s not a nation you silly head… it’s a different nation entirely - just like America before and after the revolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Again, it’s a different nation under a different government. Your national sovereignty ceases to exist as a colony. Which is why America was founded in 1776. America as a colony and America as a sovereign state are two different nations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Canada was a different nation as a colony than it is today as an independent sovereign nation. This isn’t hard to infer lady. Same with Australia and any ex colony. They are, by definitions, a different state than their prior colonial self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:15 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.If Canada was invaded, their government dissolved and they were turned into a colony, Canada, as we know it, would cease to exist as a nation. America was a brand new nation after 1776. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:06 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.If America were to invade Canada and split it into 10 states under the US flag and government, Canada would cease to exist by definition - just like France ceased to exist in WW2 after they surrendered to the Nazis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.They will live under as a different, conquered nation by definition. Sure the ground maybe the same but the nation will be a different governing body. Hence, the nation’s sovereignty is lost to the enemy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:56 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.It’s losing the nation but yeah you might personally survive. Although you might be raped. Again, the nation is gone though by definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.… surrendering is 100% losing the nation’s sovereignty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:47 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Yes they could’ve surrendered lol you’re agreeing with me again… It was either lose the nation or draft. You’re the worst person to debate. Agreeing with me in the most annoying way lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.They absolutely needed one in order for the nation to survive. The draft was their only choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:30 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Lol reality is history and how these countries used the draft to win. You have lofty ideals but no reason to live in an alternate reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 02:28 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Source that assertion. What is the point in arguing against virtually every historian and military strategist? The idea that the UK didn’t need a draft for WW2 is absurd lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Many nations needed the draft to survive. What are you talking about? What is the point of rewriting history? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Like in WW2, a nation needed a draft to survive. Period. It was necessary for Britain to win the war. Period. Britain absolutely needed it. Don’t try to re-write history. But this is applicable to any nation in WW2 that required a draft to win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.I didn’t say any nation necessarily “needs saving.” I said a draft is oftentimes necessary to save a nation. There is a difference here. You are moralizing on whether or not that nation deserves saving. I am saying that the nation needs a draft in order to be save, regardless of whether or not it should be saved. Whether WW2 “should’ve” ended is besides the point again. It didn’t. And Britain required a draft in order to save itself from destruction. You are agreeing with me by implying that Bri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 12:06 AM |
| 2 | How many of you who think women should settle more often, have actually expereinced a relationship without attraction or low attraction?A few of the women in my life struggle with it. My SO really struggles to help them without hurting their feelings. This is just my experience but the data also speaks for itself with the whole “not enough marriage-able men” phenomenon. https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/6104105/more-single-men-than-women/%3Famp%3Dtrue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 11:33 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Again….you’re just saying if it’s needed, then it’s in the interest of the government. Which yeah, no shit and is just agreeing with me with an extra step. Whether or not you think a nation that needs a draft deserves to survive is besides the point, obviously. Both sides needed a draft to survive WW2. It’s really besides the point of whether or not you believe those nations deserve to survive as it’s obvious that the nations involved needed them enacted in order to survive and hence, were neces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 11:21 PM |
| 6 | How many of you who think women should settle more often, have actually expereinced a relationship without attraction or low attraction?I have but to answer your point, I don't really think it's about "settling" but instead, readjusting your standards. Lots of men and women do this naturally as they age. They no longer view themselves as the catch who can attract a model or a prince. That's not really "settling" but more coming to terms with the reality of your own market value. Stubborn, immature, entitled people reject such advice as promoting "settling." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 06:48 PM |
| 14 | Is having a "hoe phase" important for maturing ?Most of the women I knew who had a "hoe phase" was using that phrase as a cope. They didn't really intend to go out of their way to have ONS and sleep around. They were actually simply (unsuccessfully) sleeping with various men in the hopes of them committing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 06:44 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Every soldier matters. You are wrong here. The draft is entirely necessary to mobilize a defensive force. Ukrainians have that, you don't need to force anyone, just inspire them. You need both, really. The conscripts need to be inspired but they also need to be organized into competent fighting forces with hierarchies. It's far more pragmatic to institute a draft and then organize the troops. Militia are important but they often fight without ranks and officers. It's extremely dangerous and very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.You’re agreeing with me that a draft is necessary to save the nation by saying a nation that needs a draft deserves to perish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.As of now it doesn’t seem like to many men want the draft done away with they just want it to include women. Correct, because as we are witnessing, the draft is an absolutely necessary legal framework for the defense of a nation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 03:09 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.This is why the feminist position is a non-starter in politics. The choice between allowing a nation to perish and drafting soldiers is obvious to any politician or strategist. It is simply necessary for the survival of the country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 03:08 PM |
| 12 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.What argument could a feminist make against the Ukrainian draft? It’s life or death of the nation. This is why it’s a nonstarter argument in politics. There has to be the legal framework to be able to defend the country. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.Quote me where I said women were unconscious of appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 06:11 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.What you wrote is irrelevant to the fact that men are not judged for their appearance like women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 02:28 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.And even if it was, so what? Again, she would be using products for her skin to it looks good. Why do I have to repeat myself? Again, while this doesn't prove she is "afraid" of aging.... it does give the red pill side more credence than opposing side. In other words, if the wall were not real then women wouldn’t at all care about anti-aging products. If I wash my face and apply cream does it mean that I'm afraid of aging? Again, it does not mean you are "afraid". Again I will repeat myself: now… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 06:44 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.So again, your mom still uses some sort of anti-aging cream. And again, while this doesn't prove she is "afraid" of aging.... it does give the red pill side more credence than opposing side. In other words, if the wall were not real then women wouldn’t at all care about anti-aging products. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 04:33 PM |
| 1 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.You’re conflating incels with RP. You are free to link me any RP material that cries about Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 01:35 PM |
| 0 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.Eh sounds like you’re just malding to me. Men are just not valued or judged for their appearance like women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 08:38 PM |
| 2 | The Wall says more about the men applying it, than women in general.What skin care products does your mom use? Anti-aging products are a multi-billion dollar industry. Now does that mean that women are “afraid” of aging. Not necessarily. But it does give the red pill side more credence than opposing side. In other words, if the wall were not real then women wouldn’t at all care about anti-aging products. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 05:22 AM |
| 6 | CMV: The black and pink pill-era complaints about entitled princess-esque behavior and toxic fuckboy man-children are due to our culture's obsession with indefinitely prolonging adolescence, rather than any universal black&white truths about sexuality.The market has become more free with social media not less. Like a small town now being able to trade with cities across the globe with globalism, the market now reaches more people. That doesn’t mean such market is artificial or manipulated. It’s real and the people online who receive positive affirmation and validation know it’s real. https://travellingjezebel.com/dubai-porta-potty/ The Instagram models from the Midwest being used as porta potties by rich Dubai men proves the market is not “fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 04:59 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The black and pink pill-era complaints about entitled princess-esque behavior and toxic fuckboy man-children are due to our culture's obsession with indefinitely prolonging adolescence, rather than any universal black&white truths about sexuality.Yeah of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 04:55 AM |
| 19 | CMV: The black and pink pill-era complaints about entitled princess-esque behavior and toxic fuckboy man-children are due to our culture's obsession with indefinitely prolonging adolescence, rather than any universal black&white truths about sexuality.I honestly think it’s more about who is featured in our minds and on social media. People just don’t think about ugly peoples and how ugly people act and behave. Our thoughts about attractive people are disproportionately high compared to how much we think of the undesirable. I was watching Your Moms House and Christina P’s segment where she follows and laughs at various obscure tiktok and Instagram posters and it is so funny to me because it’s basically the only time I see unattractive people o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 03:28 AM |
| 10 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.I am addressing the very things stated in your OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 11:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Entirely disagree. Those are literally behaviors that are very much gender specific and are desirable for a person. A gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for a person based on that person's biological or perceived sex. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role You are moralizing the term to where it incorrectly means “bad thing women forced to do.” On the c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 11:21 PM |
| 14 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Women forcing makeup companies to make products that cater to them is the antithesis of men forcing women to appear a certain way as your OP claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 10:30 PM |
| 4 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.I’m not sure I can put list every action my girlfriend does that can’t be fulfilled by platonic male friends or other women. There are cute and intimate interactions that only women do and a caring that really only women show in relationships that can’t be reproduced by men or platonic friends. I think the same goes for men in relationships for women. And women in relationships with men. There are just “gender roles” we do in our every day lives with our partners that we don’t even recognize as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 10:11 PM |
| 25 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.We are talking about what women want not what men want lol Literally nobody is talking about men who are mad. We are speaking about how women’s desires haven’t changed. Your logic on what constitutes mens and women’s desires are off. Again, women are not forced to wear makeup by men. If men forced women how to appear, they’d be in trash bags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 09:50 PM |
| 4 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Idk about that. So many of my female friends are “lonely” despite having close friend groups. It’s clear that they don’t want to just get dick downed and therefore men provide a type of emotional intimacy that other women don’t or can’t provide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 09:34 PM |
| 9 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.Women (and men) still desire the gender roles and what they provide with regards to emotional intimacy (as well as sexual intimacy of course). I think men and women provide each other with this gender role that provides emotional intimacy from opposite sex companionship that is not very common (or non-existent) from platonic friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 08:26 PM |
| 58 | CMV: You (men) resent today’s embracing of authentic female sexuality because it’s no longer being done on YOUR terms and in ways that are convenient for you.As women get more control and clout in the world of commerce, we’re seeing more options that reflect what women want. How is it any different? Women still want wealth, status and physically attractive men - the same as it was before (when men told you what it was according to you). Women's wants didn't change at all. Cleopatra used the bright green malachite paste of the ancient Egyptians on her lower eyelids. On her upper eyelids, she used a deep blue eye shadow with gold-colored pyrite flecks,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Can having sex with very attractive people "ruin" your ability to get aroused by others?I wouldn’t say ability to be aroused. I would say that it puts a floor on what I would consider for a relationship though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Men are the problemFor sure. It's the golden age for attractive men. But more to the point, women would also benefit from not being flabby if they are indeed interested in bagging these men. Top tier women have never been more attractive in this age of social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Men are the problemI agree with you there. My comments were more referring to warrior cultures and basing your dating standards on previous generations' standards. The obesity epidemic is sad and I hope we one day tackle the massive drag it has on our economy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Men are the problemAre you always this bad at debating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Men are the problemLiterally nobody is stopping you? What is your point here? Anyway, your idea that "men" have been historically seen as "warriors" in the general sense is only true for very specific cultures in very short and limited historical time periods. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Men are the problemUnless you were a part of some warrior culture like the Comanches or Spartans, neither were men. Hence why a draft is required when you actually need men as warriors. Anyway to your point, I don't think it really matters what the past is? Like I don't base my dating standards off 17th century English standards of beautiful women. Not sure why what men were seen in 1610 makes any difference to the dating standards of modern women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 07:20 PM |
| 9 | Men are the problemAre women not also flabby and weak? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | What is the right amount of dates do you think a woman should wait before having sex with you?I think these women have been hurt before and do everything in their power to prevent it even if that means sabotaging future relationships. Other women easily bounce back and write it off as the cost of dating - I think this is a healthier outlook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 03:51 PM |
| 1 | What is the right amount of dates do you think a woman should wait before having sex with you?If the girl is clearly sexually interested then it’s not really “waiting” but instead feels more like “building up.” I know it’s semantics but “waiting for sex” feels like she made a calendar and has chosen a specific date to wait (and some actually women do have 3 month mandatory wait period lol). That just feels unnatural and odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 02:16 PM |
| 1 | What is the right amount of dates do you think a woman should wait before having sex with you?It’s less about sex and more about sexual tension. Of course there is an unreasonable amount of time to wait but if we were not being sexual from the get go, then I would pass on the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 12:57 PM |
| 30 | There is a conspiracy to invalidate the female mate-value hierarchy.The real conspiracy are the bloops here who will suggest that it’s only radical tumblr types who spout the idea that men’s preference are unacceptable. It’s actually quite mainstream. Ask your sister or daughter or female friends if it’s “okay” or “acceptable” to judge a woman based on her weight and she will probably say no. Women will also even routinely sell their fat friend as a desirable mate. Or shame men for liking younger women. It’s not some back of the room conspiracy that women find f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 01:38 AM |
| 1 | There is a conspiracy to invalidate the female mate-value hierarchy.This is true but it is working against your argument. To the fire analogy, it wouldn’t be wrong to say that arsonists burden the system. In fact, we recognize that they do via arson laws. So your analogy is actually working against you here because we do in fact shame arsonists as they not only endanger themselves and other people, but overburden public resources that could go to true fire accidents. During covid, our ERs were full with obese patients when doctor care could’ve gone to other acci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Has this tactic ever worked on any girl ever?It’s not that it works. These men like to make women feel uncomfortable. They are the lowest of the low in society and making you feel scared and vulnerable is literally the only form of power they ever feel and will ever feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 05:15 AM |
| 2 | Is it possible to culturally normalize sex work?Why? Being a garbage collector isn’t “normalized.” People “normalize” desirable career paths. At least to the extent the OP framed it which is to say there is no “stigma” towards the job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 05:13 AM |
| 19 | Is it possible to culturally normalize sex work?You’ll know if sex work is normalized when rich Asian parents pay for private erotic dance tutoring for their daughters. Which is to say never. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 08:14 PM |
| 3 | I came across this post and wanted to know how ppd judges the boyfriends advice?This is just-world nonsense. Honestly, it's the trashy loose lower class women where who play-no-games. Self-respecting women fall into abusive relationships at a surprisingly high rate. Empaths and sociopaths (or people who act like sociopaths) are often together (even for a short time). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 01:56 PM |
| 1 | If all you want is sex, you will looseI don’t think I’ve ever have met one in person. From my experience, femcels were really into sexting though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 12:26 PM |
| 1 | If all you want is sex, you will looseMe? What are you talking about? Where did I say anything about myself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 12:19 PM |
| 11 | I came across this post and wanted to know how ppd judges the boyfriends advice?I understand what you’re saying and I don’t necessarily disagree, but proclaiming your fat friend as “desirable” is literally a lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 01:50 AM |
| 38 | I came across this post and wanted to know how ppd judges the boyfriends advice?Women legit lie to themselves and others all the time. It’s not even platitudes at a certain point. I swear every woman thinks her fat friend is Jessica Alba. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | If all you want is sex, you will looseThey are receiving pleasure lol some women certainly derive pleasure from pleasing men. Men too when they go down on a woman. If you think that all random acts of BJs are a pushy guy then I see where you are coming from. I think it’s incorrect and I’ve experienced the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 09:07 PM |
| 1 | If all you want is sex, you will looseWho can say? Some do want to give BJs in porta potties. Maybe some don't as well. And sure, rape is a thing that happens, unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 09:02 PM |
| 2 | If all you want is sex, you will looseThey want to orgasm in club bathroom when giving a BJ? Not all hookups are women pursuing PIV, not even considering the other cases (we can get to that if you want). Sometimes she is on her period. Sometimes she wants to just serve the man. Sometimes orgasms are too much work for her and she just wants to feel close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?The women who watch (or read) porn do, if only subconsciously. Plus....I'm sure you are aware of the rise of OnlyFans? We can't help ourselves to follow sex trends to some extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Lady, it's called an analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Why comment on here are then if your aware where people get their ideas outside of porn? Because I am curious to know where you get new ideas from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Of course it does. You think that there are no trends to erotica? Copy and paste the top 10 selling erotica books this month in your reply. I will find a trend 100%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Your sending mixed answers. What mixed answers? The bible isn't considered "new ideas." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?new to the individual, not to society Sure, but you were arguing that even if the person already learned it by reading it, it still can be "new ideas" to them. That is just not how these concepts are defined. I was asking for new novel ideas within porn that don’t include machines. Again, pop culture references, art, etc... That was your argument. Quote me where I implied this idea that only new ideas come from porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?What are you shifting the goalposts to now? machines are not the only new thing in porn. That is not what I said, and this does not imply new things are only discovered in porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?I mean not really? It's not how I define new ideas. That is how "new ideas" are literally defined as a concept. Could you please answer my question as to something new or novel that does not include technology? Art. Pop culture etc... I already answered this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?The ones who read erotica? Lots of them, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Ahhhhh it's a reading comprehension issue. Even an old concept like cowboys can become a newly discovered kink and therefore give a couple new ideas in bed. CAN CAN become newly discovered. The comment does not say "always become newly discovered via porn" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Nowhere does it imply that ideas can't come from anywhere but porn. Even an old concept like cowboys can become a newly discovered kink and therefore give a couple new ideas in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Well you gained the knowledge from the video/book. "New ideas" presupposes the idea that the knowledge gained beforehand is old and therefore moot, regardless of whether or not you enacted the knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Some false premises on female nature and conflating it with the male one?Well it's both? A woman can be hypgeramous in nature and be convinced a slut lifestyle is empowering. A woman can be hypergamous in nature and marry her first lover. A woman can be hypergamous in nature and get pumped and dumped 50 times in a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Sure it's both possible discover without porn and possible to discover with porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:49 PM |
| 6 | Is there more recent data/research out there on OLD?I think its safe to assume that this data is hidden now because it would be discouraging to men, who's money is essential in keeping the whole thing afloat. Yes. OKC even deleted their famous 80/20 blog post because it was referenced so often in online chatter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Right, again, an old book can be new to the couple. The person I was talking to said they already read it. So therefore, it's not "new." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Wow a real answer from you. How did that feel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?you could easily come up with anything on your own with no need to be told. Sure, but again, it's entirely possible to gain new ideas from porn. The point is not that porn is the only way to do so. Don't strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Didn't you say you read the sutra already? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Okay? And I am having a conversation with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Again, it's possible in theory. Right that's fine... But didn't you say you already read it? So how is it novel to you? Could you give an example of something new that doesn’t include technology since you’ve countered that claim many times I already did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Because you are not referencing anything new? You can be anti-porn and still say: "well I talk a lot with my friends openly about kinks and new sex trends." "we get new cosplay sex ideas from pop culture" "I research sex positions on online forums" "I visit adult stores and discover new trends and ideas" All of those are valid, new ways to discover things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?but you don’t believe that they are new enough I mean they literally are not new, so I don't know what your point is here? If I asked you how to find new religions and you referenced the bible, I would have the same raised-eyebrow response. Sure, you could've lived in a cave and the bible is entirely novel to you... It's possible in theory, sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Also what’s the point then since the question is to those who don’t watch porn? They obviously are able to find things outside of porn. Yes.. and the question is how or where... are you ok? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Well the point of many comments are saying you don’t need porn to learn about something involving sex. I don't think ANYONE is arguing that porn is required learning material lol people are curious about how you discover novel sex ideas without porn. It's a truism that things can be discovered outside of porn. Of course they can. It goes without being said that it is possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:35 PM |
| 0 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?What is with you people and strawmanning? The point being that new ideas can come from porn. Not that they only come from porn, or that porn invented sex acts... Literally nobody is arguing that you weirdo. The only novel things around involve tech This is not true. Novel ideas in bed can come from pop culture. There are new trends, movies, video games that can be roleplayed etc... The idea that only tech is novel is easily proven wrong. Art is commonly novel (also commonly recycled garbage but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Nowhere did I say that a couple would only get new ideas from porn. My point being that new ideas can come from porn. Don't strawman when debating. It's bad form and kind of annoying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Yes...nobody is arguing it is not thorough... The OP is asking for new ideas... not thorough old ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:16 PM |
| 3 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Me too... and well that's why I am asking her lol How does she know what goes on with it if not discussion about it in some form? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:14 PM |
| 0 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Condescension aside, cosplay (based on new characters) etc... Plenty of new ideas for roleplaying, dress-up etc... The idea that only machines produce new ideas is just not correct. Even an old concept like cowboys can become a newly discovered kink and therefore give a couple new ideas in bed. Art produces new ideas all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:12 PM |
| 0 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?What media discusses sex trends? Sutra is old. Not much "new" ideas coming out of it (as the OP asked and you responded). The OP didn't ask how you get ancient sex ideas lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:07 PM |
| 1 | If all you want is sex, you will looseThere is no shortage of desperate and mentally ill women who are insecure and just want to feel wanted - orgasm or not. What do you take objection to specifically? What is making you seethe here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Anti Porn People: where do you get new sexual ideas/positions/activities from?Do you discuss porn with your friends or seek discussion of it elsewhere to gain new information or inspiration about different sex trends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 05:58 PM |
| 0 | If all you want is sex, you will looseYou’re just seething because the comment is true. This is a debate sub about finding out the truth even if it is discomforting or unfortunate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 05:53 PM |
| 2 | Has Women’s Denial Of Sexuality Lead To The Rise Of Degradation KinksI’ve found the opposite to be true. The most feminist minded and openly sexual women who grew up in very openly sexual households had these kinks. I don’t think they are getting this from historical denial of sexuality. That would be like downloading historical trauma from previous unrelated generations into your brain. I don’t know if it works like that lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Some false premises on female nature and conflating it with the male one?I don’t think RP states that women are hardwired to be promiscuous. They fall into that role by being hypergamous and being pumped and dumped. I think RP states that women become duped in ways that makes them promiscuous. Hypergamy is not necessarily promiscuity, but it can lead to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 04:23 PM |
| 2 | Some false premises on female nature and conflating it with the male one?”IMO the crux of red pill is that there is such a thing as biologically-ingrained female nature in humans, and that it includes a propensity toward hypergamy, Machiavellianism, AF/BB etc. In short, AWALT. Any disagreement with this premise is some flavor of blue pill.” I would agree with this with the addition of 'disagreement and/or ignorance.' There used to be more legit blank slate people here who believed that men and women have no intrinsic differences in behavior. This oddly anti-science b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 04:04 PM |
| 2 | If all you want is sex, you will looseI disagree it's outlier behavior. Women do this shit all the time, especially for desirable men. Being deeply insecure and desperate is not uncommon for women. Such actions are not "outliers." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 03:54 PM |
| 2 | If all you want is sex, you will looseReally? You're gonna go for characterizing such a large group of women that way I didn't characterize any group of women based off deeply insecure ones. Do you reject the idea that there are plenty of women who are deeply insecure and their idea of casual sex is to please men? This is not even going into how you are wrong in other areas such as the idea that any time a woman is into intimacy that she wants to orgasm. instead of considering that they might be just like me? They are not like you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/21 03:44 PM |
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