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AFAIK you're not going to jail for someone dying from an accident. You'd have to do something like drunk driving. Plenty of people used protection that failed, are underage, were raped, are married with existing children, have complications, etc. Even just not being mentally or physically in a good place to undergo a pregnancy or simply not wanting to are sufficient IMO because it is a huge imposition. A fetus draws enormous resources, permanently alters the brain and the body, and can kill you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:49 PM
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Why is it that so many men fail to pay child support and remain unjailed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:09 PM
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Any activity you participate in has risks. You drive, you risk accidentally harming or killing someone. Sports? Same. It's not like drunk driving, it's like regular driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:08 PM
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It doesn't have to be drunk driving. Just driving. And it could be an accident. You should still be compelled to give an organ. For that matter if you as a man cause an unwanted pregnancy, your body should be up for grabs as far as organ donation/blood/bone marrow. You have endangered someone else with a pregnancy and permanently altered their body and brain. Your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:04 PM
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Yup. I had two tattoos well before I lost mine. But honestly I think this attitude is a win. Screen em out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:15 PM
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So you're saying you were raped? And every time since as well I'm assuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:11 PM
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Lmao then explain why conservative men are whining so much about the dating market? There's far more right wing men than women, and left wing women are generally not interested in even talking to right wing men. It's an automatic pass. In fact, many right wing men have taken to pretending they're "moderate" or "apolitical" just to have a shot. It often doesn’t work, since this tactic is well known. I mean, lie to yourself about the facts all you want, but I know how much republican men are incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:10 PM
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How does that move work if you have kids and an ex that has a right to see them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:07 PM
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Is this a real question? You can want whatever you want, but you're not entitled to get it. Why should anyone feel bad for you? What does women acting entitled look like in your view? Because in mine, they may want a man "out of their league" but if they don't successfully date him no one gives a shit. Why would she get any sympathy? If she opts not to date, OK. Her body and time, her choice. Same goes for men. If you don't get what you want, well life isn't fair. Deal with it. This goes for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:03 PM
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The ones who are actually raped are unlikely to because they're traumatized. But who knows? Maybe the threat of being tied to their rapist for life via a child is enough to incentivize reporting? I sure as hell would just never fuck a man again in a red state, which would be a hilarious consequence IMO. Can't wait to see how conservative men feel about a potentially sexless existence. It seems like karma really. Incels are crying now, but it can definitely get worse. If you consented to sex, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:19 PM
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You're lucky you weren't a dad at under 10 then. And by your own morals, you are a slut that should be responsible for another person since the age you lost your virginity. I hope women do have all these babies instead of abortion and then hand them straight to the fathers (or to the state in the case of incest/rape) and walk away for life. It would be extremely interesting to see how men handle that. I'm betting they'd handle it very poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:41 PM
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After all, no woman is going to falsely report rape after every consensual sexual encounter that could result in pregnancy. Why not? You've incentivized them to. Many probably wouldn't, but you're creating a condition where if they want bodily autonomy they need to take drastic steps. Just because I'm educated enough on the topic You aren't, but it's clear you are incapable of critical thought and will not learn. This entire conversation has been a massive waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:22 PM
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Great, love it. Any man needing any kind of medical leave can immediately get fired. Love to see it. Also glad you were a virgin until you were married and only have sex in that marriage if you're willing to have more kids. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:19 PM
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Or would you truly insist that if someone was forced to kill another, at risk of being killed themselves (or having others killed), that they should be charged the same as a person who murders just for the fun of it. Who said it was "for fun"? I gave you plenty of reasons why someone might want to end a pregnancy. None of them was funsy good times. So you acknowledge that pregnancy is a risk to the mother's life, but you think she should be forced to potentially die. But only sometimes, like if …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:35 AM
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No, in the US there's no guaranteed paid maternity leave actually. The companies that would get "backlash" over not offering maternity leave are the same ones that would get backlash if they didn't offer sick leave. They would not be competitive for the types of jobs they're offering and they'd pay the price for it. Also your use of "spread her legs" tells me (although it was already obvious) that you care more about shaming/punishing women for having sex than about anything else. Maybe fire men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:20 AM
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So "murder" is okay if it was rape? Incest matters because of unequal power dynamics and grooming, age of the younger person, and genetic deformities. So the "abusive" partner will allow her to get an abortion, and she'll do that, but she's going to stay with said "abusive" partner. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm No, the abortion likely happens secretly. Pregnancy is the highest risk time as far as abuse and murder from their partner. Abusive parents are very relevant. Again, this is a high risk time. Babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:16 PM
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Why are you so angry? Is this hitting a nerve? Do you think Helen was only talking about herself? Or do you think she maybe was talking about representation of Ukranian women in general?
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/22 07:34 PM
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Yes so this doesn't make sense: if you aren't even willing to fight why in the fuck should you be included in the leadership Some Ukrainian women are fighting so some Ukrainian women should be included in leadership.
/r/AntiFeminists03/03/22 04:51 PM
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Nope. I can acknowledge the statistical truths w8thout some personal trauma. Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:50 PM
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There are Ukrainian women fighting, what do you mean?
/r/AntiFeminists02/03/22 10:48 PM
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I'm just not blind to reality. Men cheat more. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 09:13 PM
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Your numbers are off, it was 53% not 55%. And per your own source: "But that’s survey data that hasn’t been subjected to scientific controls. " The 2018 survey was 20% men and 13% women. Men cheat more, as I said and you just verified. Most of the men you fucked had 3-5 bodies? Neat, but anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:01 AM
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It is still true actually. There is one age group that is comparable and that's it. Overall men cheat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:30 PM
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Organ donation carries risks. Pregnancy also carries risks. That's why I make that comparison. It's not as simple as waiting 9 months and it's all over. We are talking LIFELONG changes to the mother's body, assuming she doesn't die in childbirth. I actually used to be prolife before, but in a life/death scenario I supported the mother choosing her own life if that's what she wants. When that is extrapolated further, since we cannot know in advance if she will live/die/be permanently injured/chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:29 PM
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Statistically men cheat far more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:22 AM
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If you hit me with your car and I need your kidney to live, you aren't forced to give me one even though it's your fault I am at risk of dying. If you believe that laws should be changed to force that kidney (or blood or liver etc) donation, then I'm glad you're morally consistent. You'd be maybe the second ever prolifer I've met to actually be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:56 AM
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Outliers can exist. Doesn't change the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:53 AM
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I agree, I just hate doing it. My issue is partially a lack of knowledge. Yes, I used YouTube and took apart my dishwasher and cleaned it and put it back together. But my parents clearly failed me because every single home repair task means a research project and praying to Bob Vila.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:02 AM
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You have to mansplain for me to call you a mansplainer. That hasn't happened yet. And anyway, it's not a go to complaint of mine, because I'm more about returning the same energy. Anyway, nice to see you don't care that you're helping more racists and rapists do their dirty work. Always a pleasure in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:58 AM
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Cherry pick all you want. Statistically, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:33 AM
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Why would you bring up that women need to reproduce (and therefore should be denied reproductive control via tubal ligation) if you aren't doing exactly what I said? Speaking of intellectually dishonest... Guess what, we have 7.5 billion people. Your biological imperative can chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:32 AM
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Well catholic priests DO fuck kids, first of all. And second of all, they are part of a powerful and dangerous group. They deserve to be called out for their shit. You can like racist or sexist "jokes" all you want. The joke police won't get you. I'm just not interested in doing the work of white supremacy or the patriarchy for them by pretending it's funny. When people make rape jokes, they help normalize rape and assault and they help their rapist friends think rape is fine. You may think you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:31 AM
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Correct. I do have the right to bodily integrity though. So if someone else needs my body as life support, too bad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:23 AM
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No. Respect as in admiration is supposed to be earned, but often isn't. It's extended based on unearned attributes like beauty, inherited wealth, having a certain look (confident male) in certain contexts (corporate). Respect as in basic human decency should be extended to all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:22 AM
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Maybe from your experience. Southern men seem to be big on kids and marriage and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:18 AM
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I like cooking, but if you clean everything and deal with home and lawn maintenance we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:17 AM
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It is, but promiscuous men love to deny it. Promiscuous men have different values than low n people and are more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:16 AM
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We NEED a high reproductive rate in women due to the nature of how our swxually dimorphic species propagates. Yup. It's about controlling women, not all that bullshit about regret or lawsuits. Thanks for finally admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:06 AM
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Fact remains how? You didn't provide any facts. Just your sister's bias which happens to match your own likely due to upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:05 AM
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"Player mentality" involves tricking women. That's the comment you responded to that led to my response. Someone doesn't have to be attractive/rich/charismatic for that. Poor uggos are like the target audience of PUA sales bros even.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:04 AM
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Nope you're ignoring the nuance. Doesn't work that way. Good luck interpreting information going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:54 AM
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yet 90% of women end up having kids. What does that tell you? Failed birth control and potentially some religious issue with abortion. This country is crazy. How many of those "many women" go so far as it schedule a consult for a tubal ligation? I've never wanted kids and I don't have any nor have I changed my mind. I still didn't attempt to get a tubal ligation, because as much as I didn't want kids, I wasn't 100% sure on that. Men do not in aggregate experience as many hurdles or barriers as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:53 AM
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Not derailing at all. You don't understand what respect is, because you already get it. Reverence is different and must be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:47 AM
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It's actually not based in logic at all, but clearly you're emotionally invested in controlling women so whatevs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:46 AM
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Yup. Often even.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:45 AM
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Oh Idc that much. I just think it's a weird comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:45 AM
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Oh so men don't go to court because they know they're shit parents. Then they can cry about an "unfair" system without actually trying... just like they failed to give a shit about their kids. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:43 AM
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No actually. And the court system agrees. There's nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:40 AM
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You can lie or manipulate to get sex occasionally vs all the time. It can also only be successful some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:39 AM
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It affects men and women at equal rates; difficulty in expressing emotions may be a risk factor. https://www.everydayhealth.com/anxiety/understanding-hypochondria.aspx Yup. Guess the data IS clear. Wish your sister cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:39 AM
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Uh cause women will fuck a guy who isn't good looking, wealthy, intelligent, or charismatic? Like lol wut? I mean, obviously yes. Losers do actually get laid, not all but many, probably most. Plenty of women also suck, so they just fuck each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:37 AM
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Avoiding answering. Tells me a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:35 AM
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Or maybe a doctor should understand anecdotes vs statistical data and the impacts of medical bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:34 AM
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That's a pretty weird thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:31 AM
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I think people that want to control women shouldn't go into women's healthcare. If you're against abortion, don't go into women's healthcare. If you won't dispense birth control, don't be a pharmacist. If you're against blood draws, don't be a phelbotomist. If you're against meat consumption, don't be a butcher. Why is this take even controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:35 PM
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I'm not even reading this wall of text. Female leaders in modern times, not like queens from 500 years ago, have been found to be better leaders than male ones. Also your "are you saying NO female leader..." question is absurd. Of course I'm not saying that. Are YOU saying no male leader sucked? HITLER, Pol Pot, Stalin, a bunch of US presidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:32 PM
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Nonsequitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:29 PM
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If someone refuses a procedure, they're responsible for the outcomes of that refusal. Can't handle the responsibility, then find a job with less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:28 PM
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Nah, if you can't do your job you should get fired. This is basic cause and effect, but some men are too emotional to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:26 PM
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OK, I see you can’t think about the effects in aggregate. Too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:26 PM
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I've seen plenty of men get respect the way you mean without earning it at all, but OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:25 PM
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??? Weird response when men are the ones killing their wives more. Maybe men should be disallowed guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:24 PM
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So you think misogyny is good? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:23 PM
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No not currently, although when I was younger I'm sure I danced to whatever the DJ played, some or most of which was undoubtedly misogynist. I despise many artists for their behavior and their lyrics, for all the good that does (Chris brown, Eminem, Dr Dre, etc) and I refuse to give them money if I can help it (spotify or what have you). Same with folks like Roman Polanski. But the reality is misogyny is everywhere in our culture and extremely difficult to fully avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:16 PM
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People will always be condescending or insulting. You can choose to get worked up about it, which you're clearly that type, or you can ~choose not to~ 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:58 PM
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Men love siding with sexist men on here, good God.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:56 PM
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Why would a gun be OK to refuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:56 PM
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That shit makes me go to a competitor, lmao. Like OK, I guess you hate selling cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:54 PM
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Lol I did leave this sub, but it's entertaining as hell so i still participate occasionally. I left because I really thought about who I'm talking to. Some Elliot Rodgers fanboy is a psychopath, and there's no point in giving him more opportunities to get off on degrading women online. But yes, the train wreck aspect drags me back in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:54 PM
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Oh, men/women are grabbing your body and shouting things at you starting at about 10-12? And this is standard for most men? Tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:44 PM
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Politeness and indifference is a type of respect. This is what women wish we received by default the way most men do. Baseline neutral, normal boundaries. The type you are likely thinking of is admiration, which should be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:43 PM
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They are different types of respect. Usually when people argue about respect they are talking about different definitions. Everyone deserves respect as in basic decency and boundaries. You earn respect as in admiration. When women complain about disrespect, we are talking about people violating boundaries or speaking with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:41 PM
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You're overestimating by picking above the average. Also forgetting the time value of money given delayed payments . Also not accounting for those that do not pay or pay less than legally required. The expected value is not 108k.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:37 PM
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Sounds like your sister has bias against her female patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:35 PM
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For a man to be a player he has to be some combination of Nah, he just has to be a liar or manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:34 PM
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trans women are 20x more likely to rape in prison than cis women. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:33 PM
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Statistics do not bear that out. Men win in court more. So is it just that men FEEL they won't win in spite of the evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:32 PM
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Cool, so are those doctors now responsible for all the unwanted kids and abortions that result from their refusal to perform asked for procedures? It should go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:30 PM
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Can a doctor refuse to give you a new heart valve because it's taken from a pig because s/he's vegan and against animal cruelty? Or should that person have chosen a different field? What if many or most doctors felt that way? Now what? What if extreme vegans deliberately go into transplant work to deny patients this care to save more pigs? I mean, can't make them do it at gunpoint right? Oh well! Sucks to suck!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:28 PM
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Don't be a doctor if you're not going to do your job. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:24 PM
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If you know you don't want kids for sure though? Condoms break. No b.c. method is foolproof.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:23 PM
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Why can we not just disallow lawsuits on this (except for malpractice, which is obviously different)? I seriously doubt NO men have sued doctors over their vasectomies or other elective procedures. There's always a few entitled crazies out there looking to make easy money. We need to set up the system better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:09 PM
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I personally know one person that had an ectopic pregnancy, one that had a whole ass baby, and one that had extreme pain with their IUDs.... but I fucking love mine so much. It's easy (set it and forget it lmao), pain free except for one day of cramping after insertion, and I basically don't get periods anymore. It's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:07 PM
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I briefly dated a man that was got circumcised while we were dating. It was his choice, technically, but he was clearly doing it because he grew up uncircumcised in a community where basically everyone was circumcised. He felt othered. He also glorified porn dicks and wanted to have one that "looked good." This was also a man that wore colored contacts and was overall deeply insecure in his appearance. Obviously he's an adult and can make his own choices. The whole situation was honestly really …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:04 PM
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Then why is it that women keep dying due to illegal abortions in places like Poland? Plus there's the prosecution of women who have e miscarriages. They force women to keep their dead or dying fetuses in their bodies, sometimes causing sepsis and death, but definitely causing trauma either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:59 PM
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Obviously any lawsuit along those lines should be thrown out. Same for gender confirmation surgery or anything else elective. If you asked for it, the consequences are yours to deal with. Women are notoriously kmown ib the medical community for changing their minds about having kids as thry get older, and Do you have any data to back this up? How many men get their vasectomies reversed? Imagine if we start telling men their future wife may want kids so no vasectomy for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:09 PM
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If the doctor won't perform it without her husband or boyfriend's input, the doctor should lose their medical license.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:07 PM
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Helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:06 PM
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Not to mention the "husband stitch"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:04 PM
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Woken should sue doctors that refuse to sterilize if they end up becoming pregnant later. Maybe that will get them to fucking listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:02 PM
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Did this specifically look at the impact of seatbelts in the crash? Men drive more recklessly, so men getting into more crashes isn't a surprise. Did this look at out of the number of crashes that occur, normalizing for intensity, how many deaths happened by gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:00 PM
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Women buy and own cars. Are you honestly pretending it would be impossible to have a better seatbelt for women installed? Thanks for being clear you think it's fine women die from this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:58 PM
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What's an example of an offensive statement? Maybe men should use their "logic" and not say offensive shit? Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:47 PM
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HR is a tricky one. They aren't your friend, they want to protect the company. When I've had to go to HR, I chatted with other underlings first to get numbers. Statistically, a complaint is more likely to lead to the complainer leaving under duress, so I was ready for that outcome, but I think what saved me was having 2 other people make the same complaint with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:44 PM
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You literally have to prove that you can "take it like a man". This is because men's behaviors are considered "normal" or "correct" when in reality many leaders would be better off acting more like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:42 PM
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Such a stupid choice, honestly. Put your fate entirely in the hands of one person, who will have full financial control and can drop you at any time, leaving you with no marketable skills and no retirement AND some dependent(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:33 PM
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Are my rights being denied? Depends on your state. Texas, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:32 PM
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Depends on where you work. Lots of Old Boys Clubs still exist, and I've worked at some. Other places are progressive. It varies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:31 PM
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My last name comes from my father, because that was standard at the time. And why is it that women take his name out of love, but men don't take her name out of love? Seems like that love only goes one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:38 AM
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Idk what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:37 AM
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Probably for some, which explains some of it. But I also think we are just dealing with a lot of bottom of the barrel misogynists. Like the kind of guys that think women shouldn't vote and it's not possible to rape your wife. So with that in mind, kinda screaming into the wind here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:36 AM
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Nothing wrong with dating other people. What's wrong is lying about it or implying you're not dating other people. If they know you're dating other people, it's fine. I'd bet most men that live by this philosophy actively hide that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:34 AM
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600 abusers. She gave poison to women being beaten in a time when they had basically no legal recourse. That's a hero in my book. Elliot was a psychopath angry that cheerleaders aren't fucking him. If you can't see the difference, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:32 AM
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Probably cheating statistics and men on here constantly emphasizing their own shallowness (men only value looks) until it's inconvenient (right now).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:07 AM
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Maybe women just want a cheerful, cooperative, hot man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:05 AM
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Oh I did opt out. But I'm saying this is contributing to a societal pattern. It's a net negative for women, so that will have an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:41 AM
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Idk, is dressing up deception/manipulation? Beards? Grooming? Hats? Shoes with lifts? I've seen men use all of those tactics. And in fact, some men use gasp makeup! Spinning plates is just code for cheating. But you know what? I hope all of those plates are spinning their own plates right back. Fair is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:40 AM
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That obviously still works for some women. Many women opt out though, and it's generally the ones who see it as the bum deal it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:23 AM
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Love her! However, that wasn't what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:21 AM
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Yeah I hear that. Not pro murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:20 AM
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I agree, although kids complicate things. IF men want kids, they would need to incentivize women to go through pregnancy/birth. As it stands, it's a major loss for women, so birth numbers dropping makes sense (and the economic driven push to ban abortion in response. Can't let the masses stop running the machine....)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:20 AM
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What do you mean? That RP is making women opt out in aggregate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:17 AM
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I think she mostly went after johns. Prostitution is harmful and traumatic for a lot of workers, so I would think FDS's take is she only harmed those that were seeking to harm her or others first. Like a dexter situation, in a sense. I tend to take that stance with cardi B, but murder is a smidgen too far IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:16 AM
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It's nit subjective. There's been multiple studies that have shown this... Unless you're trying to get into "what even is happiness anyway" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:14 AM
1

The point is, taking a husband's last name is sexist. Some women don't give a shit and are complicit in sexism, especially if there's a payout involved. No way someone is fucking that trash bag of a former president for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:13 AM
2

Of course, but since far more men kill than women, I seriously doubt they all were just abused. Women are raped far more often than men, including in childhood, yet women aren't killing and abusing men at equal much less higher numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:11 AM
3

You are an anecdote. Statistically, men do poorly when their wives die and women do great when their husbands die. The happiest demographic is childfree single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:10 AM
2

So again, what are the percentages? I think we both know how this shakes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:08 AM
2

Idk her whole story, but wasn't she abused and raped? It's not shocking she snapped. Whereas when men kill women it's often because "cheerleaders won't fuck me" (Elliot rogers) or "I lost my job" or "I have a mistress and I need to kill my wife and kids to be with her" or "I want to"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:07 AM
1

It is, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:05 AM
2

I notice you avoided answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:02 AM
7

No, being manipulated and lied to would though. Good thing I just don't trust men. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:01 AM
9

Nope, but you'll make up whatever you need to in order to fit your ideology, so carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:01 AM
3

I mean, this is a net benefit to women. Men suffer from being single and women thrive. If it's a game of no sex chicken, women will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:00 AM
2

I'm not "making myself a victim" and in fact I feel confident I've avoided TRPers and "pump and dump" types successfully this far. But yeah anyone that is actively manipulating and lying to me is attempting to victimize me (or others). Awareness is helpful in avoiding those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:56 AM
0

How is it not? Do your "plates" know about each other? Or is the whole point deception and manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:21 PM
6

What are the stats on women violently killing men because they are men? Verses the converse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:17 PM
50

It hasn't ruined my life. Do I distrust men more? And give them fewer (if any) chances? Yeah. But that has arguably improved my life, since I'm less naive and trusting (aka a potential victim). I'm sorry for all the women and girls that will be harmed by this ideology though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:15 PM
2

Yeah the only reason I'm down for this is I don't plan to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:04 PM
2

Dr Dre was and is an abusive piece of shit. He deserves jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:00 PM
3

Pretty sure their wives and mistresses are in it for the money and access. A last name is a small sacrifice when you're marrying for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:55 PM
0

Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:54 PM
1

Yes, that's fine. I've never brought up marriage to a man I've dated and I doubt I ever will. Imo, space keeps it spicy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 07:51 PM
0

Too vague. You haven't actually made any real argument. Sounds like another male mad about being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:55 PM
1

It's not. There's a LOT of rape in the world. 2.5% of fathers committing acts of incest is a HUGE number IMO. And it implies a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:20 PM
1

Your comment contributed exactly as much to the conversation. Just matching your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:18 PM
3

Same. Sex =/= love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:07 AM
0

You are a prime example of male "logic"... all emotion and ignoring her example of a woman that destroys your narrative. But that's OK. Males often can't handle being challenged. Hurts their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:29 AM
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The smartest/strongest wouldn't survive. The most ruthless and opportunistic would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:11 AM
1

It isn't settled, but looks like there's a decent indication women are better suited to endurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:00 AM
1

Yeah. That's why women tend to do better at insane ultra ultra marathons or whatever. That type of endurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:49 AM
1

I mean, in a sense? But usually dates involve flirting and seduction. I don't date my friends, we just go to dinner and movies and... wait. Maybe I do. 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:48 AM
1

That's for one subset of depravity and arguably the worst kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:46 AM
1

Hmm, I'm against circumcision for the record, but I don't think the reasoning behind why people do this is so simplistic. As for the rest, k.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:45 AM
0

Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:44 AM
2

All is too broad. A lot is about right. It's not a low opinion if it's based in fact. About 2.5% of biological fathers commit incest in some form, and that number is MUCH higher for stepfathers. That's their own child they are raising that they're willing to harm, so the percentages should be significantly higher when applied to acquaintances, friends, and strangers as long as they can find opportunity and low risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:38 PM
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Men are the gatekeepers of relationships but relationships aren't necessary to produce children. OK, so then men shouldn't have a problem with getting some woman pregnant. Offer her a relationship, then make a baby. You're welcome. No, nobody makes women pay money to men except in celebrity cases. Factually false. Yes, the state does provide to poor men, but it also provides to poor women, no advantages there Great, sounds fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:34 PM
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Literally your example is someone who went free. Can you google? 1% of rapists ever even see a single day in jail in the US. I would bet many other countries are even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:31 PM
1

Not sure what circumcision has to do with this discussion. And I also look forward to women dominating and gatekeeping those industries while using their economic power to control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:30 PM
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You're the one using it to tell women to stop being so sensitive. Your motives are obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:29 PM
0

This is blatant misogyny. Labeling anything less than cartoonish sexism as "simply disagreeing" normalizes less blatant forms of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:42 AM
1

So how do you determine who was baby trapping? And how do you prove it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:34 AM
2

What part? It's just fact that you are most likely to be raped by someone you know and trust (family member, husband, boyfriend, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:11 AM
1

No wait, this cage idea has merit, keep talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:08 AM
2

They usually do go free, statistically. So it's basically open season.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:07 AM
1

One where a man and a women are drunk as hell and start to kiss and she like pass out, maybe then most men would do it What the fuck. You think most men would be fine with raping an unconscious person? That's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:06 AM
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Women historically brought in the majority of the calories. Women also take fewer stupid risks. Those two things probably make a big difference in survival rates. Women also have better endurance and hardiness. It's not as black and white as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 06:01 AM
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Probably not all or most. Studies seem to indicate around 32-35% would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:53 AM
2

Platonic. But you can date men if you want I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:50 AM
2

as opposed to men who have to either convince a woman to become their wife or partner. What happened to men being the gatekeepers of relationships? If that's true, any man who wants a relationship should have an easy time. woman still get money, if not from the father, the state provides, This would also be true for men. You can also donate sperms to someone as a friend, just like you can donate vital organs, can't you ? Through a bank, which costs thousands of dollars because of mandatory testi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:50 AM
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Is that purity culture? Isolating men from women? Imo it's more like telling men they're at fault for women's lust, they need to dress modestly to not tempt women, they should stay virgins until they gift that "gift" to their wife, boys and men are made to have babies and stay in the domestic sphere to help their wife's career, and so on. Limited education or opportunities are a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:44 AM
1

True. Doesn't change what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:41 AM
1

I want to add that the deal has always been equally shitty for both genders Then why make the deal? shaming men and socially stigmatizing their behavior has less impact on their decisions Then you have to use a language men understand. Force perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:40 AM
1

Get a single male friend that wants to platonically life partner...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:27 PM
1

It wasn't. If we want to start applying purity culture to boys as or more aggressively than we have to girls, I'm down to see how that turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:24 PM
1

You asked what I believe. How do I link my belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:23 PM
2

Even better, they get paid. However in order to donate you need to meet certain criteria (usually it's under 30 years old, extensive genetic testing, minimum height and education requirements, etc) one just needs to make the sperm donor or the potential father sign a form that they are giving away their fatherly rights. That has to happen through legitimate means. Not just as an afterthought. Plenty of people attempt to circumvent the expense of a fertility clinic and then the donor is on the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:23 PM
1

Single mothers only get child support if they didn't use a sperm bank. Similarly single fathers will receive child support if they didn't use a fertility clinic. (In both cases assuming the other parent is living)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:19 PM
1

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:17 PM
1

The social and individual impacts are still relevant. Having the ability to abuse someone for money leads to worse behaviors and expectations and treatments over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:56 PM
2

It's not free to purchase sperm, and if you're getting sperm outside of a sperm bank there's absolutely consequences for that (child support, custody). Is a surrogate way more expensive than sperm? Generally yes, but depends on how many tries it takes to get pregnant. It's about 1500-2000$ per IUI, so it can add up quickly. Obviously IVF is considerably more expensive. I agree with you that it's harder to become a single father than a single mother, but it can still be done if that's important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:55 PM
2

Out of the billions of women on the planet, I'm sure there are a few that would take that position. I don't think that's a commonly held belief. If she doesn't want sex, and he does things to make it happen against her wishes, that's rape in most circumstances. Not legally, but morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:07 PM
1

Sounds like a shit deal for women either way. Women can still get STDs from her husband if he's fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:05 PM
1

Depends on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:05 PM
1

Really? You see the women here complaining that there WERE good men and now there aren't? Please point me to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:04 PM
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True. And the men here reinforce that every five minutes. We aren't wondering where the good ones went, because there's the same amount there ever were (percentage wise).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:03 PM
2

In this sub, absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:01 PM
-1

Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:21 PM
4

Yes. But then women said that morals around sex and chastity were created to oppress them. Probs cuz they weren't equally applied to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:19 PM
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You can have kids via surrogate, technically
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:18 PM
0

I can kinda see it now that you say this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:15 PM
1

Shrimp. And white wine!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:15 PM
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Idk do you think sub is full of "where have all the good men gone" women? Or full of "women are cunts for not instantly sucking my dick, but also they're sluts if they've ever seen a dick" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:14 PM
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If sex work involved teaching about consent and humanizing sex workers, I'd be for that. The problem is when you can give someone money to hurt them, the person receiving the money is going to have to make some hard choices. Depends on how much they need the money and what the precise consequences of refusing are. For example, I've heard talk about getting non offending pedophiles some child sex robots/dolls. But again, there's some indication that the dolls/robots aren't a solution, but rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:10 PM
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Yes, I think it conditions everyone to see women as objects. There's some evidence (German model) that legal sex work much like porn increases violent and extreme sex acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:59 PM
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Yeah, I agree people that love sex work exist. I think they're the minority, but I'm fine with them doing what they want on an individual level, although I still think it's generally harmful to women as a whole/to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:48 PM
1

I believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:43 PM
1

Do you really think the lower cutoff is 18? Bet it's younger. And go ahead and don't marry a 28 year old. Why is marriage desirable for women besides marketing exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:50 PM
1

You said no one cares, but you keep having an opinion on my choices. Sounds like caring to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:36 PM
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The same 35% of men can (and do) assault multiple women. That can easily translate into most women have been assaulted but the majority of men do not assault. Which studies exact? Im not calling u a liar or anything, just looking for reference. This is the one I've seen most: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-third-of-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html Also can't link the pdf, but Google "rape proclivity malamuth 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:35 PM
2

If he is manipulatung someone sure, but what's the manipulation tactic if he's not lying or game playing? If there's no manipulation/coercion/force, there's no problem. People freely choosing to have sex (casual or committed) is not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:24 PM
1

Great, so why do you keep arguing with me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:14 PM
1

Some women do, sure. This places makes a case for any intelligent woman with self respect (or any woman that hasn't been groomed/abused into compliance) to stay celibate or date women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:11 PM
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What struggles? This is a place to discuss relationship dynamics and the men here show that women are viewed as products for consumption, not people. Why would any woman waste her time with people that actively dehumanizing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:09 PM
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Ty, happy to do so. I'm sure the men on here already struggling to date love when the pool is smaller. Because lOGiC
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:04 PM
2

I mean, that's great that YOU don’t send unsolicited dick pics, but the trend with snapchat is usually unsolicited dick pics. Regardless, what you're about reinforces my decision. It's the same flavor (cheater/player, purely about sex) but at least meets the bare minimum of consent for sexual content.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:03 PM
1

Lmao, nah. Yall just trying to date literal teenagers and then you're shocked when they act their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:00 PM
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Yeah the snapchat/whatever thing is a clear indicator of someone fucking around or aiming to send diick pics. I always stop talking to them if they bring that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:53 PM
2

If that's their reaction, isn't that good? Sounds like you would be incompatible anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:50 PM
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I mean, there's been studies that about 30-35% of men would rape if they knew they'd get away with it. That's rape, which is extreme, but what about things that are not legally rape but are still coercive or difficult to prove? How many men think they're "genuine" but also see no issue with pressuring women for sex and using intimidation or "the implication"? How about men protesting making marital rape illegal in India? How many men also feel that way quietly? Most women I know have experienced…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:47 PM
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Idk, what's more EFFECTIVE than raping women? Sex trafficking? If all you care about is your pp and not how you treat people, then all kinds of depravity and sadism are on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:51 PM
5

If you have to manipulate someone into sex they don't want, it's basically rape. All this sub does is convince me to go full lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:22 PM
1

OK. As a woman, that's not my experience. Something easy to get is generally less valuable. If a man is too easy and will fuck anyone that offers, he shows me that he is desperate, led by his dick, and lacks discernment. It's possible that some women want the guy who is the sluttiest, just as some men want the sluttiest women... but I would bet many if not most women don't. At best they may put up with that less desirable quality because he has something else they like more. He has charm, looks,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:24 AM
-1

I have. You just don't like what I saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:22 PM
1

OK where's all your data backing up that the vast majority of women don't care if their date is the community bicycle (aka a fuckboy)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:00 AM
-1

Men here can't keep their stories straight. I have read on here more than once that TRPers will just fuck the "easy" women while waiting for the hard ones to put out. Dick never goes dry and they feel they've "won" something. So talk to your buddies before telling me this shit doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:59 AM
-2

Some of the details change, like he is unlikely to be the one to explicitly ask to wait, but you can both be waiting (with or without discussion)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:57 AM
-1

Same, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:30 PM
1

I don't believe I have something meaningful because I'm 5 dates in. No one can have something meaningful at this stage. I also don't believe that meaningful relationships require self sacrifice/martyrdom. If she is presented with a unique or special opportunity, why should she pass on it? That just builds resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:42 PM
1

I don't see the dissonance, but I'm actually really interested in this observation if you're willing to explain. I'm not looking to break hearts, and I think I've been respectful to those I've dated. I also think it's unreasonable for a bf to expect pure devotion and sacrifice from a gf when they aren't at that level as a couple. Again, it would possibly be different if they were 5 years deep and he had proven his own devotion in various ways, but I don't know because I'm not there and generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:55 PM

Except we don't. Some men don't care if they date a woman who sleeps around, some do. Some women don't care if they date a man that sleeps around, some do. I happen to care if some guy I'm taking it slow with is secretly fucking women the whole time we are dating. It's gross to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:45 PM
-4

Use your brain. I'm not sleeping with some guy but he is sleeping with some random because we didn't explicitly say we were exclusive. He "gets away with it" on a technicality, but I won't be able to trust him anymore so our relationship would be over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:44 PM
-1

If I'm not sleeping with some man I'm dating and it later comes out he was banging some random on the side, that's the same scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:42 PM
1

Well I'm only at like 5 dates with the guy I'm seeing. I might have a different mindset if I were at 5 years or 50 years. I might not. I make my own meaning just as you make yours. We don't value the same things. I can create a meaningful life and important connections anywhere I go, and I enjoy exploring new places and opportunities. Some people might prefer to stay home and pass on those opportunities for the sake of their partner. But relationships fail all the time, especially if they're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:30 AM
2

Well you don't know what life will bring you. That's a choice you make when the opportunity arises. I may live in the city I'm in until I die. I may move next year. I have no idea what will happen. I date someone because I like them and want to get to know them better and spending time together is fun. I'm not interested in meaningless sex, I'd rather go solo. The companionship is key. And I mean, if kids were involved that's obviously more complicated, but for a boyfriend? Ehhh I think it's sad…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:02 AM
2

Yup and then "there's no low n women 😭😡" Like there are but you screen them out, lucky them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:56 AM
0

Most incels are socially deficient and spew their flaws openly. So easily avoided. Who isn't easily avoided are the ones good at hiding their flaws, so a subset of narcissists and sociopaths most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:34 AM

And everyone was like "Buhhhh you weren't official! She can sleep with whoever she wants! Stop shaming women!" I think because if a man did this exact same thing, that is the likely response. So there's no reason to hold women to a different standard. And his ego is his own responsibility. That said, I think either a man or a woman doing what you described is gross. And I would not want to date someone who would do that. He's free to walk away and should if it's important to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:24 AM
2

Are you going to seriously pass up job opportunities or whatever for your girlfriend? Maybe you would, but plenty of guys wouldn't. You can be in a relationship and then something happens where your paths diverge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:52 AM
1

Yeah I realize it says "to date them" but there's no way to gauge what that actually means. What types of messages were being sent? And for that matter, it's the internet. Who the hell solicits a sexual relationship via something like reddit? That's weird and concerning to begin with. Given that so many women experience a significant subset of men being aggressive and/or disrespectful in seeking sex/relationships, women are often extra cautious and distrustful of men they do not know... especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:52 PM
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I dont know if the offers the girls in the post received are “yooo lets fuck and the you can get the fuck out of my life” but imagine not having at least that much to offer. I'd rather get nothing than get that type of offer. It's pure disrespect and contempt. I've never been pleased or flattered when I get those types of approaches. It is sickening. That's what the forever alone people don't get. Being treated like a subhuman cumdumpster isn't better than being left alone. Being screamed at abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:55 PM
3

Sure, but it has limits and is extremely individual. If the man you like only wants to fuck catgirls, are you going to get plastic surgery to have cat ears? Or do you maybe accept that's not a relationship that's going to happen? Or some in between that may or may not work (costume cat ears and a leotard?) Usually men on here say that the way to get a "good" (their idea of) man is be submissive/ultra-feminine. So obviously to some of us, that's a non-starter. You're trying to sell traditional se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:24 PM
-1

Because part of dating is compatibility. If you have passions taking you on a different path, you aren't compatible anymore. Maybe you can try an LDR, maybe he is willing to move for you... but chances are those things aren't on the table/going to work out. So move anyway and what happens with the relationship happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:14 PM
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Fish don't want to be caught. If you're trying to get people that don't want it, that's the problem right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:12 PM
1

You say that like the woman (or girl)'s family gives a shit about her. But there's a good chance in a society that devalues women (pretty much all of them) that her parents see her as an expensive sheep or goat. They will sell her off to whoever gives them a good deal for her, which could be as little as taking her off their hands. Why is it that even today there are plenty of horror stories of families forcing their daughter to marry her rapist? Or sending her back to a husband that beats her? …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:58 PM
1

Yeah it's classic pearls before swine here. Easy to get addicted to rage posting though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:51 PM
1

The countries that do best have the most women's rights. Idk why you think stone age shit will help anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:42 PM
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Offering to use someone as a flashlight isn't really offering genuine human connection. If all these lonely men get offers for someone to peg their asshole and then bounce, are their intimacy/loneliness problems solved?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:38 PM
1

Idk if you realize this but men NEVER protected women. They've always been a source of danger. It's ridiculous to blame the solution (feminism) for the problem (abusive violent men).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:47 PM
1

🙄😴
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:45 PM
1

Why do you think Jobs is amazing? He, like all "inventors" needed to climb on the backs of others. All Jobs did was steal ideas, but his talent was in marketing and business savvy. https://www.cultofmac.com/95614/how-steve-jobs-invented-the-computer-mouse-by-stealing-it-from-xerox/ I literally already named female inventors and you're ignoring that because it doesn't fit your limited world view that puts women in a box. And spare me "we are just different, that's not a bad thing" garbage when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:56 PM
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Idk what "almost all the statistics" means to you, but here's the CDC saying it: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity The percentage of men who are overweight (34.1%) is higher than the percentage of women who are overweight (27.5%). Overweight and obese combined: Men: 34.1 + 43 = 77.1% Women: 27.5 + 41.9 = 69.4% 77.1 is more than 69.4. But feel free to share "all the statistics"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:42 PM
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Oh and one more thing backing up what I said about emotional men and logical women: https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2021/03/06/data-shows-women-make-better-leaders-who-cares/?sh=4cb9983146be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:34 AM
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Are the 5 males you named within the last 50 years, which is what you specifically asked me? And in my opinion I think men are better for certain positions than women are due to certain traits like physical strength and ability to use logic. This is sexist as shit. Can you deadlift over 400 lbs? Can every man you know do that? I know women that can. You can’t assign a broad brush using nothing but gender. Logic is obviously female dominated, but you emotionally refuse to see that. Women aren't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:56 PM
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What did I say that bothers you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:59 PM
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Lmao it’s funny Bc I actually am Being VERY consistent in my arguments and you’ve even proved s Nope. Also you are asking me questions without quoting the context, so idk what you're asking. I'm not going back through all the posts to try and match concepts. And even if there WAS more mistakes by men the only thing that’s would make sense is because there more of them than there is women Obviously they are normalized for gender. If you don't know what that means Google it. Most women take up eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:45 PM
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It's happened. I've out hornied men before. The ones stuck in trad beliefs about men and women cannot handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:24 PM
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Yes there are women that want that. They aren't. You hold a false dichotomy in your head that makes you incapable of understanding what I'm saying. Women don't bond with whomever they fuck. They bond with whomever they sexually desire. Also not true, although it's funny you're changing what you said. Women can have sex with men they find attractive and not want a relationship. I've done it and I've seen other women do it. No. It's like : I have feelings for this girl->i want to fuck her If I fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:53 PM
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I wrote a response to this yesterday that got deleted instead of posted. I already responded to your other post that has most of the same concepts. I'll answer your question and if there are other specific questions you have go ahead and ask, but I'm not going to go through this giant post again line by line. Yeah what is your part to make the world a better place? What are women doing right now to make the world a better place? Can you answer that for me? I volunteer with causes I care about, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:47 PM
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You're still ignoring biological facts. The delusional is strong I see
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:35 PM
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A lot of words to say nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:31 PM
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Also proves my point on how looks don’t matter that much for women. Resources do. We don't know that is the case when it comes to attraction itself, only survival. And just Bc men use makeup more often doesn’t support them aging faster than women Bc trust me Okay so when you tried to use that as "proof" that women age faster, you didn't mean it hmm? 🙄 You aren't being consistent with your own arguments. I can't take you seriously. women always fail to do that part they absolutely lack accountabi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:30 PM
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Oh I didn't realize you're a computer or an alien. Tell me more about your special brain. Again, you haven't explained why the function of the penis contradicts what you said. You can't reconcile biology with what you WANT to be true, but isn't. Before agriculture, children belonged to the tribe so paternity wasn't important because there was a community ownership/responsibility for children rather than an individual one. So women fucked men as they saw fit, and the structure of the penis helped…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:11 PM
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If men look better than women, why is it that according to TRP most women find most men unattractive? Men also use makeup, BTW. It is becoming more mainstream for men to have facial care routines, extensive facial hair grooming, fill in patchy eyebrows, use concealer etc. They go for the "no makeup" makeup look. Your argument is shitty. Men are embarrassed about using make up because they view it as "gay" or "feminine" and anything feminine is seen as bad due to misogyny. But this is changing. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:07 PM
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Therefore most women still need marriage for survival. Some thing I don’t understand is why so many of you are against marriage with a man Do you actually not understand? I don't believe that. Would YOU want to have to get married to someone who disrespects you and sees you as a servant? Would you be happy to have to do this for survival? Marriage and babies is the reason that women are put here. That's not even close to true. First of all, there's no such thing as God, so there's no "put here" …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:38 PM
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I see you can't handle facts and must retreat into personal attacks. Embarrassing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:17 PM
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It would be awful, I agree, and I also think we are dealing with full blown nutjobs trying to subvert democracy. Trump as been hard at work to make sure if he loses the vote he can override it in places like Georgia. The ya'llqueda are a serious threat to freedom, civil rights, women's rights, LGBTQ rights etc. We should absolutely not allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:48 PM
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Women are not "designed" to love only one partner. If they were dicks would not need to pump out all the other sperm in there. That's biology. Face the facts
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:43 PM
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Yeah kids fuck women up. It's so not worth it. Not having kids helps so much. In that case women look much better than men, but I agree with you that kids will do a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:42 PM
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It's cause and effect. You act like we all just popped into existence 5 years ago and there's no cultural/social context. Women couldn't own property or have a credit card or go to school etc for a very long time. This meant that marriage was purely survival for women. Men could fall in love with some peasant stable girl or whatever, but for women that was extremely rare if it ever happened. Not only would her family just not allow that to proceed, but she knows her whole life (being fed and her…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:41 PM
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Sure, I also support that. But there will always be some people who have sedentary parents or dumb parents or cruel parents or neglectful parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:27 PM
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Athletic means muscular. Many of those women look the same but they're standing at different angles. Go ahead and take your ball and go home and pout. Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:26 PM
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Average? Like 4-5 inches probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:24 PM
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Lmao, there's tons of footage of Trump supporters being there and doing treasonous shit, but go ahead and believe that Qanon garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:22 PM
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Can't speak for all, but yeah I do. Treason and attacking the capitol is one of the times cops should use deadly force. Not with civilians because they have unresolved racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:07 PM
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No the issue is that you aren't able to understand. So re: a million, depends on what you want. Look, if all a woman wants is hot NSA sex, she will go for casual/ONS/FWB. Same with a man. In both of those cases they have a certain approach that may not appeal to certain partners. So in that case "a million dollars" is boy toys for women or lots of babes for men. If you're more relationship minded, for either gender, the type of person that sleeps around isn't a millionaire to you. You refuse to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:06 PM
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I don't need to waste my time when Vanilla covered it. If you actually dominated things, you wouldn't need to loudly declare you do. It would be obvious. Instead you actively fight to stop women from having the same education or opportunities so you can then turn around and say it's a "natural" difference or "gods will" That's what's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:58 PM
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Most men are also disgustingly fat is the thing. So another fat person is their match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:43 PM
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100% spitting truth. My ex wasn't Chad, but he might as well have been to me because of his flirtation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:30 PM
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Do you think more social support is needed? Give poor kids more opportunities? We can do that, but there will always be some people who have more advantages than others (good parents in a loving supportive home, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:34 PM
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how do you think we feel reading female rhetoric about how being 5'9 or under makes us an automatic 3/10 It doesn't. Some women may feel that way but it is far from universal. I like them right around 5'7" - 5'10". Nice average height, plus or minus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:53 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:52 PM
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You are responding to a man. Women didn't say 9 inches. That's pure male insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:51 PM
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Do not base your self worth off of what these idiots think. Do not base your self worth off of your weight. You should continue to develop healthy habits and work on your health and fitness. You should be proud that you've already started this process. You can date while in your weight loss process, but if you have self loathing and shame like this it will be much harder to screen out the bad ones and only date the ones that treat you with respect and kindness. If you are not currently in therap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:49 PM
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25 is not that old. Do you meet single women in your age range in real life? Do you talk with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:41 PM
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Excuse me if I don't buy that these idiots that can't outrun an infant are a major threat. Look at Jan 6. They were chaotic and some lady rightfully died, but they weren't some kind of outstanding military grade force.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:37 PM
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Why is it men have dicks that are very good at plunging out other men's sperm if women aren't evolved to go around catching as much dick as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:35 PM
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Well I don't care, I'm not campaigning to stop them am I? I don't agree that it's just horny old men though. It's the vast majority, including young, hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:35 PM
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So you agree women are hardwired to fuck as many men as possible. Glad to hear it. We used to have community where the children belonged to the tribe. So maybe we should go back to non-monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:33 PM
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What does his religion have to do with this. Are you an antisemite?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:31 PM
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It looks like the same study twice but OK. And like I said, there are conflicting studies that show men cheat more. Which given the way men here talk about their dicks and hormones as beyond their control, fits that narrative. Unless you DO have equal control as women and you guys just say bullshot to excuse your behavior. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:31 PM
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It hurts men in similar ways it hurts women. We've already gone over this. It shows a lack of discernment or self control (led by hormones), it shows tendency towards instant gratification, risky behavior as far as STDs and unwanted children, etc.. If I believed in whatever yall are smoking re:pair bonding, that would also apply to both sexes bit probably men more than women since men are the ones that claim sex is how they form attachment and express love... unless they are liars, shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:28 PM
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Depends on what's attached to that million. Okay if you want to look at this as a failure of judgment rather than self control, idc. Same outcome. You show character or lack thereof with your sexual choices. That is true for men and women, but many men appear to be in massive denial about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:22 PM
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Did you read your own links? Men still cheat more (23% to 19%) even if I buy this one study uncritically. Yes there are more side chicks it appears, which implies men cheat more. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:20 PM
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Not in my world but OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:17 PM
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You're showing like 5 body types (thin, hourglass, fat, athletic, and maybe one more) and calling it 21. Then deliberately showing a limited subset of what women find attractive and screaming "look men are so generous with our attraction" like wow you are all such saints for being attracted to women with C cup breasts AND DDD cup breasts. What range! I don't need anyone to like a meatball, but some people do. The reality is that fat women aren't desirable outside of some fetishization and some r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:17 PM
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I can write it out for you but I can't understand it for you. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:08 PM
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I'm practicing, because idk if you realize this but men do not protect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:07 PM
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K. That makes sense it's made up. Virgins are notoriously bad at sex. Practice makes perfect, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:06 PM
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He's one of their kings. It's very funny how much that group worships rich assholes that manipulate them for profit (Trump, Shapiro, Owens etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:52 PM
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Not all addicts want to stop. You are seemingly deliberately refusing to understand this very basic concept because you do not like the implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:51 PM
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So if you have orbiting women offering sex on a platter, where's the effort? Or is it only when it's a woman you actually want (someone "high value")
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:50 PM
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Chubby isn't 19 to me. It's someone obviously very fat As in 20 but less of a waist. I notice there aren't any apple shaped women on this list. Someone with a lot of belly fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:47 PM
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No one. And then they're Pikachu face surprised women avoid them like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:46 PM
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Your dichotomy is hella false. Rednecks are either effeminate men like Ben Shapiro or inbred and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:44 PM
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An uggo planning to hurt people because of his own self loathing. It's truly disgusting to see the inner thoughts of males on this sub. A different thread was demanding sharia law and legal rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:43 PM
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Nope. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Men continue to fail at both reading AND statistics. Love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:41 PM
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What Vanilla said. Good job at displaying men are weak when it comes to literacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:40 PM
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Nope, you just don't read well, like most males.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:39 PM
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Lol have you seen pics of proud boys and ya'llqueda? 3 teeth and 200 lbs more fat than anyone needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:38 PM
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Lots of women don't use social media. But an awful lot of men seem to drool over the ones that thirst trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:37 PM
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To fight, duh. Look this whole sub is basically a circle jerk amongst woman haters. As a woman, I loathe misogynists for obvious reasons. Some people like to say stuff about two wrongs don't make a right, but I think that's exactly what sociopaths want you to think. "Turn the other cheek, so I can hit you on both sides" which is stupid as fuck. Women need to rise up and put garbage in its place. Period. Anyway, back to you. Nothing wrong with effort, it shows interest. What does "I have no troub…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:36 PM
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Only brainless beasts can't understand what I said. Do you think humans are so successful because we have the sharpest teeth, biggest muscles, most dangerous claws? The pen is mightier than the sword. If men are mere beasts, they will lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:31 PM
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If you can't get laid without a lot of effort, that is called a struggle. But sure, you can be their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:29 PM
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Yeah I'm just very picky and being hot won't cut it. I'll give way too much benefit of the doubt though, which I'm working on. Someone is a raging dick to me, I won't fuck him but I also won't tell him to suck his own dick. I want to grow into a person that tells assholes that they are gaping and need to plug it up. 😂 In the meantime at least they gave dry dick, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:29 PM
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No one is "designed" but OK. If you want to talk about evolution, the dick has evolved to pump out other men's sperm. So women fucking around with lots of men is normal. Your grandma loves to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:26 PM
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Yes, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:24 PM
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I do not agree but OK. If you really wanted some plain Jane that none of your guys think is attractive, your behavior would be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:24 PM
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Yeah so if men could stop bitching hypocritical, that'd be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:23 PM
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You have no trouble but also you have trouble. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:22 PM
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No. Learn how to read then try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:22 PM
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And it harms men. No one wants someone who has no self control. Self control is about controlling yourself from doing things you don't want to do. So addicts that "can stop at any time" but "just don't want to" also have self control by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:21 PM
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You're the ones calling men low level dogs that have a bio need to hump mindlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:20 PM
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This forum self selects for men that suck with women/social interactions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:19 PM
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So men want a women that no one else wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:18 PM
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According to... ???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:17 PM
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Yeah the rise of wanting facials/anal is so clearly from porn. Those men can eat several dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:17 PM
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Oh man, burn on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:22 AM
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Idk how you come by those numbers? Lots of boring guys become dads. Boring guys are also cheaters sometimes though. Boring guys can be abusive or just not very good partners. Once kids are in the picture, women's tolerance for bullshit drops dramatically because kids destroy your patience via sleep deprivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:22 AM
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Idk they kinda look the same too. Which makes me question this whole dumb chart. It'd the same like 4 body types in different outfits and a few have ridiculously large breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:19 AM
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She has a boyfriend too, No, this is why. A friend I slept with years ago stopped talking to me, responding to group messages I'm part of, etc. It's because he got a girlfriend (IMO) and she probably doesn't want him being around me. If her bf knows about her history with you, she's probably been asked not to interact. Which honestly is a fair request, I think. Like I get why my friend is MIA, he's just being respectful of his girlfriend's feelings. Anyway, re: the rest, I don't agree with you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:17 AM
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That's exactly what I mean. As women take over STEM, men will revert back to "education doesn't mean you know anything" and valuing blue collar work over white collar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:12 AM
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I absolutely do. If that's what your inner self is, your outer self should stay ugly so it matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:11 AM
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If by attractive you mean the top 5% of women, then why should they? That's their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:10 AM
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That's very proactive of you. I'm sorry you feel unattractive, but there's nothing wrong with plastic surgery. I've considered it before, but I like that I can see my family in bits and pieces of me. (Grandpa's ears, for example) and it helps that I'm not ugly, I'm just not cookie cutter Instagram model.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:29 AM
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9-13, which as I said, all look the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:25 AM
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I love when the revenge fantasies come out. It's all you guys have. So sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:25 AM
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Absolutely women should be getting a whole lot more abortions, that sounds like a class/religion issue to me. That doesn't absolve the man in your scenario either though. They can both be making poor choices that result in kids. He should have gotten a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:24 AM
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So how about college where men are giving up because they can't keep up and then starting a narrative of "college isn't so great anywayz!!!"? Every time women enter a field, men storm off and pretend they never wanted it and it's always been uncool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:22 AM
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He can nut into his own hand. Or he can fuck around with another misogynist. Women should stay far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:21 AM
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You're deliberately changing what I said. A child is anyone 18 or under. Pedophiles exist, or do you deny that? Underweight is a BMI under 18.5. Many men actively prefer fragile, starving women in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:20 AM
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How is that eugenics? I just think harmful ideologies like misogyny, racism, nazi shit, etc should be snuffed out. Violently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:18 AM
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They fake it unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:15 AM
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Hmm. Again not what I've seen. Those girls are perpetually single. Also 9 -13 all look the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:00 AM
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Ah so again strength and .... gambling? OK wow, boy howdy, you have sure said words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:53 AM
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OK, run along. I'm sure you feel like you've done something today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:52 AM
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Not accurate from my observations but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:51 AM
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Such as? Digging ditches and stacking rocks? Yes, you do such a good job dears.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:28 AM
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Nah women invented lots of shit and then men took credit for it. I'm not worried about those alleged "great minds"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:26 AM
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Dude, nowhere did I mention arousal. That's not how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:25 AM
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Not sure how many people that distrust the government actually also "love" cops, you may just be grouping together different groups in your own head. Maybe? Except as a whole, the right wing has adopted the "thin blue line" paraphernalia and yet also pulls shit like Jan 6. It seems like maybe they only like cops when cops kill black people or make leftists mad, but when they kill an insurrectionist it's "extreme force" I shouldn't be too shocked. We are all hypocrites in some way really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:24 AM
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Yes, that's probably the most effective method. You're full of good ideas all of a sudden. You must have done this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:21 AM
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Men here do love to coerce sex from women who don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:19 AM
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So now you're mad women don't want the guy with the most muscles? Attraction isn't always rational or men wouldn't be attracted to underweight women or little children. Yet some are. It makes no sense, but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:17 AM
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Yeah fair, although I'd probably want to start local first
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:06 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:04 AM
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Honestly yes. Thank you. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:01 AM
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I guess I can't prove otherwise beyond knowing many armed left wing people. Government distrust is an extreme left wing ideology as much it is a right wing one, only the left wing doesn't worship cops... which honestly I don't understand how fearing the government and loving cops fits together. If you can explain it, please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:01 AM
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No, I genuinely hate misogynists and think there should be a militia styled after Black Panthers for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:58 AM
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Ah OK, it all makes sense now. Women are higher functioning, lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:57 AM

Feminists existed back in the day. Look at Catherine the Great (admittedly a flawed person) or olympe de gouges. Do you think slavery "worked well" for everyone because it existed for so long?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:56 AM
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Is this a kink for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:54 AM
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A small minority of men are chubby chasers, are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:54 AM
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Yeah. It's tricky because I like the what the male gaze of men likes (nice dumpy, solid build, hair) but many men that fit that aesthetic are either gay or total dicks. Ah well, it's both a blessing and a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:53 AM
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That's so embarrassing. I'm cringing on your behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:51 AM
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I bet you do. The weakest men need that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:49 AM
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Are you hard as a rock every time you make a joke? Explains a lot. Misogyny is just a kink I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:48 AM
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I love that they think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:48 AM
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The last one looks like an asshole IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:44 AM
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Idk where you're getting that, but men aren't funny so it makes sense you didn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:43 AM
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Don't worry, someday women will close the murder gap. I want TRUE equality and that's item #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:43 AM
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Because men are allergic to responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:40 AM
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Well the world works in mysterious ways. There's always hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:37 AM
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Did you miss the part where he actively votes against women's rights? I'm going to assume yes. I don't want him to fight for me or any other woman. I want him to fall in battle before procreating. The sooner the better. Or like Lorena bobbit scenario could be cool. Whatever the universe wants to do there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:36 AM
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What kind of person do you think I am? Unvaccinated and misogynist obviously. So ya know. Praying for covid to continue doing good works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:30 AM
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Sorry but you'd be one of the fallen, now or then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:29 AM
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No worries, makes sense you'd flee. Probably a typical obese ya'llqueda member seeking a child bride and a safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:26 AM
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Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:23 AM
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Everyday I look forward to a civil war where your kind will get what you deserve <3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:21 AM
0

What you don't like jokes??? Males used to have a sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:18 AM
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Good luck with being reasonable. They will aggressively ignore you so they can talk about how much they hate women instead. Feeeeeeeemales.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:18 AM
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Great so leave women alone then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:17 AM
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Omg men are so shallooooow and something about hypergamy and let's sharia law them into marrying their looks match! Where are all the men losing their shit over this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:16 AM
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Some women will go for option A, but if some women find the whole thing not worth it why do you care? Let them live!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:14 AM
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Women as a whole don't find the same 20% attractive. But apparently ya'll are bad at thinking this shit through.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:13 AM
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Yeah it was nice when all the males no one liked died as virgins in wars lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:12 AM
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But fucking a lot of women doesn't really harm men so... Back to square one. Women fucking a lot of men or no men doesn't harm anyone either. Beyond STDs, which also applies to men. Self control is self control. What do you not get about this? It's a character trait that some of us value and apparently you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:10 AM
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Men are useful for literally two things, physical labor and sperm. What women should do is cull the herd and use the rest for their biological purpose as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:08 AM

That's what I thought. If you need companionship so bad, let's force all incels to get fucked by men. Then you will get the sex and love you "deserve"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:06 AM
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Oh I like to dig at men and use their own arguments against them. "Men can't help but rape, sex is an instinct" So men are mindless subhuman animals ruled by their dixk and therefore need management by higher thinking people. Okay. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:05 AM

Sex wasn't invented in 1964, but if you recall women weren't allowed to WORK or run their own lives. So yes. That's on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:03 AM

You are so radicalized. None of this is accurate, but I obviously not going to be able to have a dialogue with you as you only believe what you want to believe. It's a cultlike mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:02 AM
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Depends on how you're defining slut. Most men on here seem to think n >0 or n>1. I'm thinking of women that probably had a count between 5 and 20. , that kind of lifestyle severely damage women in a way it doesn't do with men for some reasson. Lol you only think that because you're a man. Men cheat more than women and cheating is one of the main reasons for divorce. I'd call that male damage. also live around two blocks of a woman I used to have a FWB thing long time ago. She doesn't even look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:00 AM
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Maybe you need to read it again. Go ahead and let me know when you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:22 PM

And they are entitled not to have to endure that. Everyone is entitled not to suffer. And what does that translate into? How do you think that suffering should be alleviated?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:21 PM

Most males are insecure about dating a woman taller than them. Ugly ass men have wives. So... ???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:20 PM
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Males are definitely NOT equal to women. They're emotional and driven by instinct. They have the calue of workhorses or oxen. That said, I watched this guy reply like a billion times full of hysteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:20 PM
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Pure male fantasy, like always on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:18 PM
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Like I said, I validate he is in pain. That pain is his own making though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:18 PM

Nah it's more like women weren't allowed to prioritize looks because they needed a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:16 PM
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I'm white, FYI, and you're a straight up KKK piece of garbage. If purge week ended and I missed it, then previous statement revoked so I don't get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:15 PM

https://images.app.goo.gl/huCfocCTBirnE3Zt7 Note the "not feasible" for women. 6 ft tall women are fucked. I'll also note that you fully ignored ugliest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:14 PM

This sub is full of incels is my point. And you're assuming they're unhygienic and sedentary. And yes, most women have certain physical characteristics they like or do not like. Just like men. AND there's character traits that will disqualify men from a significant subset of women (although not all).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:13 PM
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If you're talking about specific people that you know, that'd understandable. I'm saying there are people that have been low just like you and have no one to help them. You could be better than the people you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:10 PM
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So are women. Are you men rushing to wife up the ugliest, tallest or shortest bald woman you can find or....?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:29 PM
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Eh. I feel really good about myself after working out and taking care of my skin consistently. No one is giving me validation or attention for it, but I appreciate the work I've put in and the results I see. People like to work for things and generate meaning that way. Now you could argue that I perhaps wouldn't value those specific aesthetics if I didn't have society saying "this is what is attractive" and perhaps that is so. However, I think I would still find a lot of value in exercise, hygie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:28 PM
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Everyone deserves both love and sex. Even ugly broke losers. ... what does "deserve" mean to you? In an ideal world, that may arguably be true. But they aren't entitled to receive those things from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:24 PM
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victims of societal gaslighting and feminism Not a thing in the way you're describing it. Do you talk about the "victims" of the Civil Rights Movement? Racists and sexists can go pound dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:22 PM
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Because there was supposedly a universal understanding, across all times and cultures, that men value looks and women don't care about looks. A myth that men tell each other while completely ignoring women's lack of choices and economic dependency forcing them to tolerate all kinds of hideousness (not just phyiscal) for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:20 PM
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WHY THE FUCK, WOULD I EVER DEVOTE MY LIFE TO MAKING THE LIVES OF OTHER PEOPLE, HAPPIER AND EASIER, WHEN MOST NORMIES AND FOIDS ARE CONTENT WILL ALLOWING ME TO WALLOW AND SUFFER AND DIE IN MY LONELINESS So you're willing to let others people suffer and die of loneliness... but you're mad no one is helping you? This is a little thing called ~hypocrisy~... So self centered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:17 PM
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What is hard about seeing a therapist? Is it too expensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:14 PM
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literally probably more athletically fit and hygienic than half this sub combined ( You just assumed half this sub is unwashed and sedentary. I agree with you, but look, clearly that assumption is coming from somewhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:12 PM
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How is it indicative of lack of judgement or control if men aspire to it? First of all, hashtag notallmen. It is a lack of self control whether they are willing to admit that or not. If someone wants to be obese and is proud of being obese, that fact doesn't negate their lack of control regarding food. They are still overeating. They may be proud of that fact (foolishly) but that's what they're doing. You banging ScarJo isn't inherently a bad thing. However if you're so consumed by lust, your hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:04 PM
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Exactly. Honorless garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:49 PM
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It's obviously variable from person to person. Some women put up with cheaters, ugly men, men convicted of crimes. Some women have high expectations. Same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:48 PM
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Yes. So conditional. So no one is loved unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:46 PM
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Yup and looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:45 PM
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loved even if all she does is be hot and lounge around the house in pajamas all day. Yes ... because they offer nothing but their vanity. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:45 PM
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Women can also have emotionless sex, my guy. I've done it. I don't enjoy it though, like it's way less fun, so those men are "pumped and dumped" if you will. I don't even have a high n-count (at least by my definition), but I would definitely argue I've been less emotional about sex than some of the men I've dates. And I'm not a rarity or a unique case. As the cultural judgment and conditioning around this changes, I see more women interested in just "getting their nut" and walking away. Or bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:42 PM
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Fuck yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:37 PM
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Empathy isn't the issue. If I tell you that men are mean to me and then go on to show massive entitlement and whine that only men are loved unconditionally (which isn't even true), what's an appropriate reaction? Saying "omg baby I'm so sorry you are hurting" is fine I suppose, but it's patronizing and it ignores the reality that I've made my own problems and I'm externalizing the blame onto men as a whole. I can validate that this man is in pain. What I cannot validate are his perceptions of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:36 PM
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For women, not men. High ns are something men aspire to. No it's still indicative of a lack of judgment or control. But some men do aspire to that anyway. No woman values chastisty Lmao, I do so you're already wrong. Do I value virginity? No. But I do value signs of self control and that means not fucking anyone or anything that will let you. That means saying no if there's good reasons to say no (the other person is in a partnership, you're in a partnership, there isn't enthusiastic consent, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:31 PM
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When something is a compulsion and also damaging to your life and your mental health, we call it an addiction. Not all promiscuous people are sex addicted, nor are all cheaters. But some are. That said, someone can have sex addiction and that doesn't mean their partner is under any obligation to stay with them. I wouldn't. Fidelity is a key piece of partnership for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:25 PM
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This is your first half added attempt to explain beyond "different motivation" You're not right, but I understand this is your attempt to justify your own actions. Men don't bond? Men don't experience heartbreak? Could have fooled me with all the men on here crying about their divorces and women that don't love them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:50 PM
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Pedophiles gravitate to professions that put them in positions of authority over children. Teachers, coaches, priests or other religious leaders, pediatricians, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:47 PM
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Sex addiction from trauma, confident. Potato, potato.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:46 PM
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Yup I know someone whose dad took him to a hooker when he was a teen because if he isn't being a giant slut he must be gay. Traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:45 PM
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Yawn, now you're recycling insults. Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:43 PM
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No, that would be nice though. Does that revenge fantasy make you feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:40 PM
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Self defense v murder is fully unrelated to promiscuous v promiscuous. You haven't justified your opinions about the actual topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:22 PM
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High ns are more likely to have those things. Inherently high n is tied to a lack of judgment or self control, depending on how high we think "high n" means. Obviously if you think 3 is high, then we aren't talking about the same thing. It does. Because women don't value chastity in men. We have evolved differently. That wasn't the point I made, which you sidestepped. And while some women may not value chastity, as some men don't, others do. Your vague appeal to evolution is empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:21 PM
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Re u/Aldabruzzo He also is fine with adults fucking kids as long as there isn't a law against it. This is a bad person, which I guess was already obvious given the rampant and viscious misogyny. Imo the options are: he's lying about being married, his wife is miserable and possibly brainwashed/abused, or she's just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:59 PM
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I will when you make one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:55 PM
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Wait so is witch hunting allowed now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:55 PM
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It is a fact that more men are overweight than women. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:54 PM
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No one is loved unconditionally and whining about that is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:53 PM
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Keep it coming. Just shows your impotence in every possible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:51 PM
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I'm so embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:49 PM
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You want it to be different so you can act like a world class asshole without consequences. It isn't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:48 PM
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Again do you think trolling isn't real? I agree it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:47 PM
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U big mad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:46 PM
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Social conditioning is a thing. Women have been told older men are better since birth. Money and fame and other reasons unrelated to their actual face. Older men aren't more attractive, they're just subsidized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:46 PM
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This is how someone who is enraged by the truth responds. Enjoy being reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:43 PM
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Oh I must have made up all the men with mansions, jets, expensive suits, overpriced technology, sports gear, traveling, going to Vegas to gamble or pay for swx workers, buying expensive whiskey..... That must be women doing all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:43 PM
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They absolutely do know their wife's history, but go ahead and try and make the math work to justify your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:41 PM
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Male hamstering. Diseased dick isn't attractive to quality women. Multiple kids scattered around is a liability and shows a lack of judgment/character. But I'm sure the men on here find women that don't value men with honor or self control. That makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:40 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:37 PM
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The thing is I know plenty of low n and high n women. Guess which ones easily got married and had babies. Watch what men do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:35 PM
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That's because you are harassing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:33 PM
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Who wants the father of their children to be the town bike either?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:30 PM
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This is classic male hamstering. Newsflash, if being promiscuous is bad then it's bad when men do it. If being promiscuous is neutral then it's neutral for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:29 PM
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Not what actually happens though. I guess you just judge all those married men as "not having self respect" to hold on to your worldview though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:26 PM
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Didn't think about that, but great point. I read somewhere that some "a little alcohol is good for you" studies make this mistake by including former alcoholics in the "never drink" cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:29 AM
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Do men not have social media or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:25 AM
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This, and I'd add on that having someone handle most of the daily tasks of living frees up the other person to excel at work. My previous boss had a tradwife, and that meant he was able to work 60 hr weeks plus study for exams even though they had 3 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 03:11 AM
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You only have group sex? You never have sex with your "husband" one on one? You may not be into younger men, plenty of women are. It is obviously not universal. It doesn't bother me that some men prefer younger women. It bothers me when they prey on children or teens. It bothers me when they oppress or abuse. But simply being into someone younger is OK within reason. Sex workers are much hotter babe. It's better for men to pay for a 10 than to get a free 5. Wonderful! Then go to them and stop bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:50 PM
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It's the same point as catfishing for fun or trolling anywhere else. Fun, power, enjoying deception, chaos, etc. Trolling often has no real "point"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:48 PM
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So is your suggestion that everyone should stay celibate for life and only procreate via reproductive technology?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:46 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america 20% of men, 13% of women. That's a sizeable difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:49 PM
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Then by that logic there I'd no such thing as a troll anywhere. Which is obviously false
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:48 PM
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Men and women do not cheat at the same rate statistically. Also I don't care what their "reasons" are when they can LEAVE first. If you need strange that bad, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:37 PM
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I hear you that men are confused. The shifting culture probably IS hard. It seems clear to me that what is appropriate is: No bothering kids No catcalling No sexual language with a stranger No misuse of power (boss/subordinate, teacher/student, etc) And acting like those basic rules are somehow unfair or terrifying or confusing is wild to me. "Oh I can't even work with women anymore" etc. While women have been slapping hands off our bodies on the regular and still manage to work with men. Yeah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:36 PM
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Sounds like a lot of cheater apologism. Cheaters are garbage people that deliberately and carelessly hurt the one person they are supposed to care about. That's a monster in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:25 PM
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Why? For fun. Again, trolls obviously exist in the world. So there's no point in feigning shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:24 PM
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Lmao. Or cognitive behavioral therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:23 PM
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You brought up Leo. I didn't read your wall of text past that. My observation is that women age better than men. It's way I exclusively date younger men. Older ones look like shit. But obviously it's subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:22 PM
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Well cheaters are sex crazed monsters. Ergo most men are sex crazed monsters. Women need to corral males and only let them out with supervision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:21 PM
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Leonardo looks like a melted ice cream cone, idk what you're talking about. He's leveraging his fame and fortune in order to "date" young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:19 PM
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Not all men are just these sex crazed monsters that You make us out to be. Lol. Did you not just say all males cheat because it is their nature? Pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:15 PM
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You've never heard a woman talk like that because there's a high chance this is a male larping as a woman. FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:14 PM
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Yeah they do. It's a dominance thing. Women want to feel submissive sexually and that doesn't happen with a younger guy. Lmao. Please tell us our own attraction more. I'm so sure you have a better understanding having never been a woman yourself. I love younger men, because they are actually fit and have good skin. Older men look like saggy balls. Nope. Men start paying for sex and bang many more young women as they get older. OK. Go pay for sex. Non-SW women don't want those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:09 PM
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Or the alternate interpretation is that olde mrale bosses abuse positions of power for sex far more than female bosses. Not a good look for males.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:04 PM
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I have explained how there are more men in prison EVEN adjusting for that. You didn't write it very well. "Share of women" was odd phrasing. I figured you'd explain yourself if needed and here we are. It is possible there is a bias against giving women appropriate sentences. It is also possible that when women murder it has extenuating circumstances not present in men's cases (history of DV etc). I would have to have more information. it isn't. A woman is harming a child. The law stops caring ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 05:01 PM
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Counterpoint, you are here and so are tons of other men trying to say offensive shit and rile women up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:45 PM
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Women are not immune to sexism or the patriarchy. Look at people like Ann Coulter or Amy Barrett-Cohen. Women have received the message that we should want a certain type of man our whole lives (depending on your age, I suppose). Look at classic Disney movies, damsel-in-distress garbage, romcoms, etc. ...not to mention the impact of religion for anyone that grew up with that. It takes a lot of time and effort to recognize the internalized bullshit, unpack it,, and retrain oneself. Personally I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:41 PM
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Lots of men are hoes. Do they make all men look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:13 PM
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Obviously no one can tell you which kind except you. We don't know the origins of the issues. If there's unresolved trauma, perhaps EMDR. But CBT is a good starting place for many people IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:12 PM
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If you're single, you'll feel pressured into to having sex by men, who only operate within market expectations. Well then as an adult, I will manage my feelings myself and not have sex with any of these men. They will have shown they aren't compatible. And then these same men will wonder where are the women that aren't sleeping around. But they have already made the choice to take themselves out of her market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:09 PM
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I do not care if some women choose to sleep around. Some of my favorite people have had many partners. I care that they respect boundaries. If they respect consent, are open with their intentions, and do not violate other people's relationships, we are good. I also hope they take care of themselves and act safely regarding risk of STDs and/or getting murdered by a random. I also feel that way about the promiscuous men I know. I personally am uncomfortable with being considered promiscuous, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 04:04 PM
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Why do trolls troll? Obviously people do it. I think maybe a sad small way to feel powerful? The thrill of spewing toxicity and misogyny? You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:57 PM
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Men rape, abuse, and murder far more than women do. It makes sense there'd be more men in prison. I don't consider being held accountable for your crimes "responsibility" though. Not committing crimes in the first place would be responsible. Taking addictive drugs while breastfeeding is complicated because addicts don't stop being addicts just because there's a child in the picture. Obviously that child deserves intervention, but the parent isn't in their right mind. It's like criminalizing ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:52 PM
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If the shoe fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:30 PM
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The problem is you said "high value" which is subjective. In terms of pure numbers, women/girls "peak" at about 12-16 and I can say that based on personal experience as well as just the stats on harassment, assault, and abuse. But would I consider any of those men high value? Absolutely not. Still, that's the age where women/girls receive the most (unsolicited) attention. As for men, I'd say 25-30 because I'm not a pedophile unlike a large chunk of the male population. When it comes to what age …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 03:28 PM
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While all large age gap relationships are not inherently a problem, there is definitely a tendency for older men to specifically seek out very young women and girls for a reason and that reason is power and control. We specifically criminalize sexual acts with children and teens for a reason. It isn't their physical size or bodily development. Teens have gone through puberty and so have some pre-teens. It's about their capacity to make fully informed choices, understand the consequences, and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:54 PM
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This is what I mean: https://www.piedmont.org/living-better/long-term-effects-of-pregnancy-women-dont-talk-about https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/01/24/686790727/fourth-trimester-problems-can-have-long-term-effects-on-a-moms-health https://mommybites.com/col2/moms/9-long-term-effects-that-pregnancy-has-on-your-body/amp/ Some of these are more superficial (skin, hair, saggy breasts) but the bigger concerns are stroke, heart disease, or diabetes. And even the superficial ones are a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:47 PM
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That's a shitty thing for them to do. And yet none of what you said discounts what I said. What is your agenda in making this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:43 PM
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A lot of words to say "I want this to be the case and how dare you challenge my feelings based assumptions and general misogyny"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:42 PM
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Statistically that isn't the case, but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:41 PM
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Lower divorce doesn't indicate a happier marriage or higher level of fidelity. Most likely their partner knows the kind of person they agreed to marry and is in for the $$$$$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:41 PM
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If all it takes is options to be a cheater, then they aren't worth dating. That said, I don't think I'd want to date a CEO given the high likelihood they suck as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:40 PM
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You know who wouldn't say "you girls"? An actual girl. Anyway, I lift weights. Pretty sure I could pick up a package, but I'd rather get paid well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:38 PM
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Obviously they delivered your package fine so your faux concern is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:21 PM
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Don't listen to her, she makes shit up about women and is likely a man playing a woman for fun. Anything she says is just her idea of what women "should" be like in his fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 12:17 PM
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What's offensive is inserting your opinion into someone else's life when they didn't ask for it. It's aggressive. If you're her OBGYN, that's one thing. If you're some random, MYOB. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:15 AM
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Western women know they will be sleeping around with the neighbors when their kid is 7 years old Statistically men are more likely to do that, bit I don't see you putting men's lack of honor on blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:09 AM
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Interesting you say that sin e statistically younger parents are more likely to be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:08 AM
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All? No. Most? Yeah. You think most CEOs have the time or personality type to be good spouses?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:07 AM
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I'm sorry that was experience. Statistically, younger parents are more likely to be abusive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:06 AM
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These statements seem to be from someone who has extreme misogynistic views and cannot see people as people. Men and women are not objects with roles to fill, they are human beings. Nailed it. He doesn't see women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:01 AM
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A lot of words to say women shouldn't be people, they should be compliant fuckdolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:59 AM
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There are more blue collar women out there. So inevitably there is a larger pool in pure numbers. However, blue collar men actually get LESS attention comparatively (given their percentage of the population) because many white collar women aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:12 AM
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The mere accusation of cheating? No. Many people do not care. It's a "personal private matter" etc. Obviously a baby isn't purely his progeny unless that was agreed to explicitly. He is however 50% responsible for that child and yet does not endure 50% of the risk and hardship. His life isn't at risk. His career doesn't take a hit, nor his retirement. His body doesn't experience permanent damage. As for the teeth, about 75% of pregnant women experience pregnancy gingivitis. Their ligaments also …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:13 PM
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OK. So you're saying men should seek out a naive moron and manipulate her as they see fit. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:02 PM
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I'm giving the same energy I replied to. If women are at fault for not vetting better, so are men. I personally do not agree with the premise that women are at fault for not vetting properly, so I also don't think men are at fault either. HOWEVER, I'm asking for consistency. If you believe that a man cheating is a woman's fault for not vetting properly, then it is a man's fault when he experiences paternity fraud etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:01 PM
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Yeah, agreed. It's bad form to force other people into your kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:58 PM
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Lots of women are fine with the streets and the men on them. I happen to not be one of them. You act like men have no agency and are helpless in the wake of whatever women do or don't do. Men make choices. I happen to prefer a certain type of man, but that isn't a universal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:57 PM
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Oh I definitely can, but that's statistically going to be the case. Even a short man could do serious damage. Is your suggestion that women should not date men at all? Matching heights won't remove that threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:07 AM
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The promise was that wars will end when women get the right to vote. Not when women get elected. W Well that's even dumber somehow. I'm of the opinion that men already hold more responsibility than women in general (for many reasons). Idk why you would think that. And men aren't always the cheater. The person with the most responsibility is the one that made some kind of monogamous agreement and then broke it. Men's health receives more attention than women's health. They don’t even have proper …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:05 AM
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This is so commonplace, I don't think anyone cares. It's just when you lie, manipulate, future fake, etc that people get angry. I've never once gotten angry at a man for being clear what he's about. It just means he's for the streets, and I'm not so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:56 AM
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You just make a sexy lady Jesus and marry her and live with all your bros who are also married to her. What's the problem? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:53 AM
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The men should have vetted better. It's their fault they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:43 AM
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stay barren, Your lips to God's ears. That's the plan, Stan
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:40 AM
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Creatures that reproduce asexually still evolve. But yes, sexual reproduction allows for smaller steps and more "experiments" if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:36 AM
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Hmm OK. Under that interpretation, he needs therapy. That's not a jab. Self-loathing and perfectionism are debilitating. No date will fix that mental rut.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:36 PM
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Height difference can?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:35 PM
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Mmmkay then same to you re:paternity fraud. Sounds like any man that experiences paternity fraud deserves it for not picking right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:34 PM
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Well men should marry ugly women. It's their fault since they married someone they were attracted to. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:33 PM
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Again, ugly men cheat. As do boring men, stable men, risk averse men, nerdy men, DnD men, conservative men, liberal men. Some will cultivate an air of respectability to hide their sickness (pedophilia, for example). You can't just know whether someone will cheat as that is the nature of DECEPTION. Many men will cheat if they have opportunity but will not necessarily seek out extramarital affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:29 PM
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Ugly men also cheat, obviously. Do you say to any man whose wife cheats that he should have married someone uglier?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:26 PM
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Obviously not deliberately. The idea is he appears like a non-asshole and then reveals his true face by cheating during pregnancy or shortly thereafter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:25 PM
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That's not normal. What IS normal is to be polite and gradually get to know each other over the course of time. If you jump into sex/dating in 3 dates or less, then obviously you're not taking the needed time to actually vet this person. The average woman manipulates much more than the average man. Source? In fact that’s why women are so against it, Against what? Manipulation? Manipulation can often be an abuse tactic. Men manipulate and abuse all the time. The argument shouldn't be that "some w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:24 PM
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Idk, you write your own contract? The difference is you're not putting your body through a 9 month toll and risk of death. So that part doesn't need to be compensated for anyone who hasn't endured pregnancy for their partner. But I do think cheaters, male female or nonbinary, are shitty, hurtful people and their victims deserve reparations in some form. And personally I'd want some promises, in writing, for something as serious and damaging as pregnancy and birth and motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:13 PM
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Again what does height have to do with brain development or power and control?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:58 PM
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Lots of straight LTRs out there. Not sure your assessment is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:57 PM
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Do you think this is unique to American men? Also this forum is US based bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:56 PM
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So legality isn't the line. Which then means what is? You've decided 15 is OK. Some people think 10 is okay and they're legally able to do this in some places. When you are 22, a 15 year old is much less developed, mentally or emotionally, than you. Teenagers do not have long term thinking yet and are vulnerable. They take more risks and commit more crimes. https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/10/16_neurolaw.shtml the frontal cortex, the area of the brain that controls reasoning and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:56 PM
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Hmm, OK. I view someone deliberately lying and manipulating just to make sex fall out as malicious. That's how I interpreted what he said, and any boohooing after that statement isn't sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:42 PM
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Here's an article that summarizes the paper for you: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-third-of-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:39 PM
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https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.0022 And excuse me, Mr. Open Misogynist if I don't give a shit what you think I am or am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:32 PM
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The toxicity is a myth to keep the straights sane or smth idk. OK? That report comes from other gay men though. And while you can be any body type and find someone that finds you worth fucking, it seems like it's very hard to find someone interested in a relationship... especially if you aren't smoking hot. That's what I'm told anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:29 PM
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Being older means you are able to manipulate and control usually (not always). And the types of people looking for barely legal/massive age gaps are usually the type that wants power and control in a relationship. Why use brute force when you can exploit a naive child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:26 PM
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Even if men are shallow as fuck, the manipulation and games you have to play with women suck the fun out of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:24 PM
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Lol, it's not women doing it bro. I don't think we have exact numbers. 1/3 of men admit they would rape someone if they knew could get away with it. What lesser things would they also do? How many men wouldn't rape but they'd do things they don't consider full on rape (coerce, imply a threat, wear someone down with persistence or rage)? How many men would harass or stalk or abuse or control? Most women experience sexual assault in their lifetime, I wouldn't be shocked if it was all but we don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:23 PM
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If I complained about my difficulties in tricking a man into giving over his money, and how exhausting it is to manipulate him and lie to him to eventually get that money... you'd offer me empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:18 PM
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So infuriating. Not planning on having kids myself, but I would want it written in blood that if he wants kids from me, he agrees to pay for it in every possible way if he cheats. Like he forfeits all contact with us unless I deem it necessary for the child's well being, he pays massive child support, he has a mandatory vasectomy, he must disclose he's a piece of shit (in detail, I'll do the write up) to every woman he wants to date going forward... etc. It would be life destroying. Because in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:14 PM
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Idk is height differences among same aged individuals related to different levels of social/emotional/brain development? Does it indicate vulnerability vs savviness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:05 PM
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Men absolutely make rules in dating. It's a complex dance for this reason. Can you honestly tell me there's nothing a woman could do on a date that would end that date for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:54 PM
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Actually now that you say that, could be a kink?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:52 PM
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Same. So clearly a misogynist pretending to be his ideal doormat to troll people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:51 PM
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"Created" lmao. Males exist to increase genetic diversity. Women are the original.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:50 PM
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as if we were some kind of fucking terrorist group. Well that's the perception... that it's a thin cover for sowing the seeds of violent misogyny and growing that misogyny into action along the lines of Elliott Rogers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:47 PM
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If men aren't more shallow, then why is the gay dating scene know to be more looks focused and toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:45 PM
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Why are you offering all this sympathy for someone that chooses to be fake and lie on dates? He is making his own problems and hurting others in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:43 PM
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You do not have to manipulate or play games. You choose to because you want to extract something that is not being freely offered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:41 PM
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Don't be fake then. This is a problem of your own making because you want to MANIPULATE women. Also go get a sex worker if all you actually want is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:40 PM
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So men aren't at fault for being willfully blind at making assumptions? Men aren't at fault for jacking off their own ego all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:39 PM
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You want women to have blind trust? That would be stupid. Especially given the statistics around infidelity, abuse, and other betrayals (i.e. pretending to be an equal partner until she's baby trapped).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:36 PM
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Men here don’t want to admit their house of cards is built on feelings and lies. If they could accept that women get divorced in spite of the risk of poverty because their marriages are THAT BAD, their whole belief system crumbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:35 PM
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: "I did everything right! And it wasn't enough to hold her love and attention." Women also get dumped. This is the mantra of the rejected and heartbroken. Learning how to deal with heartbreak and rejection is part of life. Most people go through this and doing everything "right" ultimately doesn't matter. You can't make someone stay with you. They have to choose it, daily. Yes, there may be things about you that cause someone to leave... but that's not always it! People can leave for their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:30 PM
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Gross. Statements like what you just made are rape culture. You are helping rapists continue to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:09 AM
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The idea that women politicians won't start or participate in wars is obviously horseshit. That's just the same old sexist "women are so naturally good, especially at love and feelings and nurturing" Anyway, sure. Female politicians hold as much responsibility as comparable male politicians for the wars and other atrocities of their time. Back to the main subject -- I do think the married person holds MORE responsibility for their affairs, but that doesn't absolve the other participant(s) unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:08 AM
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If you're that worried about it, don't marry and probably don't even date anyone. Just stick to FWB or casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:01 AM
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Because children cannot consent. Do you see a problem with a 10 year old if it is legal? Or is legality enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:57 PM
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Do you support the actions taken by black people in fighting for civil rights? Do you support the actions taken in colonists fighting against the British for independence? What about indigenous people fighting against colonizers? When is violence noble to you vs "terrorism"? You have no moral high ground here. This is projection at its finest. You have such obvious double standards. Women wanting freedom and fighting for it is "terrorism" to you, but men fighting in wars for that so called "free…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:31 PM
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Just for feeling something, even though I openly said it's highly unlikely for me to pursue any action? You didn't say it was just feelings. Or that those feelings are even inappropriate albeit out of your control. You said you might have sex with a 15 year old. That's not just feelings. In some countries, including America, there are places where 10 year olds can legally marry adults (30 year olds, for example). They cannot legally divorce though, because they are children. Is legality the dete…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:21 PM
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Yes, paternity fraud is bad. I'm not arguing that it isn't. I don't follow what WW2 has to do with any of this, but I think it is understood there were evil women by the commonly understood definition of evil (i.e. Eva Braun).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:18 PM
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I've spent a lot of time learning about trauma and working with victims. I'm not saying a 10 year detailed cold revenge plan is excusable. I'm saying rape fucks people up and if someone under that level of mental stress lashes out, even if it is delayed to some degree (i.e. Lorena Bobbitt), it is reasonable and should be excused. I think a trauma informed judge and jury should have reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:58 AM
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Not at all. It doesn't have to be a starving hellhole for men in the US to know they have a way to buy certain women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:55 AM
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.... have you read a book or anything about women's fight to vote? Men were not like "sure" Jesus Christ. Men beat and jailed suffragettes. They were (and still are in a different form) vilified. There were active media campaigns against them. They were dehumanized and defeminized. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/radical-protests-propelled-suffrage-movement-heres-how-new-museum-captures-history-180976114/ Here's some history on the state sanctioned violence used against women protestors. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:53 AM
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You are frothing at the mouth to jail rape victims for an understandable lashing out. Idk what you think you're doing, but defense of rapists is what I call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:37 AM
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How is anything I said I my previous statement false? You can't actually disagree, so you chose to name call and act dismissive instead. It's telling that accepting the horror of what is commonplace isn't an option for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:34 AM
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You act like you aren't the standard. You should read up on the history of the justice system. It's baked in that women aren't believable. Your skepticism is status quo and has been for hundreds if not thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:33 AM
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Idk why you are so eager to defend rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:31 AM
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What things? The things you do exactly the same? Be in a relationship. Love, fun, support, emotional and physical sharing, talking, laughing, doing things together like cooking or hiking or board games or whatever you enjoy doing as a couple, tease each other, compliment each other, get in fights and work out our differences and make compromises, sacrifice on occasion for the other person's benefit, gifts, hand holding, kissing, sex besides PIV, cuddling, watching movies, roasting each other, go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:39 PM
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You're not sorry that little children are deliberately traumatized by adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:30 PM
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You're wrong and you are why these men get away with it. For me: Sexual phone calls (used words like "masturbate") starting at 10 because they knew I was the only one who answered the phone. Cops were called due to frequency. Honked at and catcalled at 11 when walking on the sidewalk. At 12, a man in his 60s groped my breasts and then did the "shhhh" gesture. At 14 on public transportation, a 30+ year old man tried to lure me to the movies. Used the line "your parents don't have to know" And tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:27 PM
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You are demonizing me for having occasional sexual thoughs -throughts, not actions- about girls that are 7 years younger than me when the real problems is men harassing girls 40 years younger. It is rare for rapists to think of themselves as rapists. Or for abusers to think of themselves as abusers. "Sure I throw stuff and scream, but I don't HIT her" "Yeah I hit her, but real abusers kill women" "I'm not in jail so I didn't do anything wrong" Etc. You are openly talking about 15 year old kids a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:21 PM
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10, and by middle aged men of course. And we have this question periodically and it is always like this. Mostly preteen age girls being harassed or victimized by adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:16 PM
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In theory you already do that. There's no way that's the answer OP was expecting. "I wouldn't do anything differently except sex" is the answer that makes the most sense, because that should really be the only thing that changes... except for the part where he helps you deal with the weird thing that inexplicably happened to your genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:14 PM
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That's legitimately sick males say things like that. And then they're shocked when women don't like or trust them!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:07 PM
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If your dick disappeared, how would you keep your lady from leaving you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:06 PM
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They weren't wrong that the upper class white women deserved to vote though. They were just wrong to exclude people. If you want to say this half truth is still a lie nonsense, then all progress throughout history was a lie. Should we say abolitionists were all wrong because they were sexist? The urge to use classism/racism to try and vilify feminism as a movement is meant to chip away at women's rights. It's meant to deligitimize women as equals. If we did that to abolitionists, it would be cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:56 PM
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Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:50 PM
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I disagree with literally everything you just said. But I can see we aren't going to agree so I'll drop the adoption conversation. Do you think abortion should be allowed in cases of rape, incest, or if the person is a minor?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:50 PM
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Married or in a relationship. I'm going to go ahead and assume most cheaters (of any gender) don't give a fuck about some side piece's possible main piece or anyone else's consequences related to philandering. There's an inherent risk they will father someone else's "child" and they do not care. In which case, shows how much their own genetic offspring actually matters to them...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:47 PM
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Yes. They are deliberately looking for some kind of imbalance or need that will coerce women to bend to their will in some way. What would you call that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:43 PM
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First of all it’s men, not males. I find the term male offensive. Second of all it’s females, not women. Only a male would say that. Tough luck. we are not mindless animals because Blah blah blah. If you think males are capable of slef control then stop excusing poor behavior as an inherent biological trait unique to males.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:41 PM
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Neither is pleasant, but I'd rather be ignored/unwanted than manipulated callously and have to constantly question my own judgment as well as someone else's intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:39 PM
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Yes and sexual strategy is still within the confines of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:51 PM
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You wrote that disclaimer and then proceeded to minimize the damage when dad cheats and maximize the damage when mom does. So my comment stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:50 PM
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It's far more common for men to murder than the converse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:49 PM
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These men often continue to support their family and if they are married getting caught is even worse because they would lose money. So he just doesn't value or respect his family and has no loyalty. His word is trash. Noted. If a woman cheats, she is condemned by society, which is appropriate. He should be if he cheats as well. That's fair. If you really need strange, you can open up.your partnership with both parties' consent or you can leave and get all the strange you're capable of pulling. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:48 PM
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So if she is infertile or had her tubes tied, it's okay? She can fuck around?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:45 PM
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That's not the worst case scenario for a woman. The worst case is he murders you and your kids so he can start an unencumbered future with his second family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:42 PM
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So males are mindless animals and need to be controlled by higher thinking people (aka women)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:40 PM
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Men commonly cheat after or during pregnancy due to an annoying, hormonal woman and lack of sexual activity. So what I'm seeing is women shouldn't get pregnant because men can't be trusted. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:38 PM
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There's a male participating in infidelity if there's a paternity issue. A male stepping out on his wife can result in the exact same medical history trauma scenario you just outlined. His partner(s) can get pregnant unless he had a vasectomy. It's also not as tame as "mom got mad at dad"... it's that "my dad didn't love his family enough to be faithful and have honor. Now I have a broken family with possible stepparents who may or may not be abusive. My dad's selfish dishonorable behavior direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:37 PM
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I think it depends on where you live. Afghanistan is very different from Portland, OR. For that matter, the flyover states or rural, southern USA are very different from a coastal city.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:30 PM
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I would, but I have no interest in being a mother. Thanks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:28 PM
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It's not trad shit. I'm talking about the rules of a civil society. There will always be those that break the rules (murderers, for example) and if society wants to stay functional it will deal with those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:26 PM
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How is a rape victim a psychopath? Trauma is complex and delayed reactions/mental breaks are part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:23 PM
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I mean, yeah maybe some do although it's unlikely. But anything can happen. It's not actually just my opinion though. Can a slave be happy? Or are there reasons why that's extremely unlikely? And if a slave claimed to be happy in servitude, is that true happiness or is it a mental break (like Stockholm syndrome) for survival purposes? With that in mind, now apply that to RP relationships. Logically, no there isn't true happiness there. Abusive relationships are inherently unhealthy and unhappy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:22 PM
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Because women aren't saints and they are also products of their time. Women didn't have it all figured out as entities separate from society. Guess what else, women were also racist including suffragettes. That doesn't mean they were wrong about the right to vote though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:18 PM
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What shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:16 PM
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I'm not talking about toddlers, I'm talking about babies. Birth mothers are lied to, manipulated, and coerced into allowing adoption. Adoptive children sometimes, although not always, experience a lot of grief and alienation over the loss of their birth parents, family, and culture. "Should any parent ever be asked to surrender a child so that child can have a better life? Is there not something inherently immoral about people of means becoming parents to the children of poor people around the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:16 PM
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Right, so you're pro sociopathic monster. That's your prerogative, but there's a lot of reasons societies dislike and discourage that type of behavior and apply social pressure (and legal pressure and sometimes physical consequences) for acting in antisocial ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:02 PM
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Continuing their investigation, Elinder and Erixson found that women had a lower chance of survival in 11 out of 18 shipwrecks. Women fared worse also in recent times, during the sinking of the Russian river cruise MV Bulgaria in 2011. They had a survival rate of 26.9 percent, opposed to 60.3 percent of men. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna47043470
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:53 PM
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Cops rape women. I don't understand what you're trying to argue here. Are you saying mob bosses are good because it's less rape? Which prove it, honestly, because rape is pervasive as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:49 PM
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No one has complained about exploiting anyone I don't believe you. Would you be exploited or is it a totally fun, fair arrangement if your options are: starve and live in terrible conditions or you can service an ugly old woman sexually and live in safety and comfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:48 PM
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Not exploit human beings? It is shocking that so many people seem to think exploiting people ("do you want to eat today? Then fuck me now" is a form of rape, FYI) is fine. Is rape OK to you if it's the only way you could get laid? Or do you understand that you are morally obligated to not rape someone and give them lifelong trauma just so you can cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:46 PM
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The issue is choice feminism is harmful to the whole. If your "choice" is, for example, between self expoitation or death... how is that a real choice? I'm sure the women are happier having food and safety vs not and it is worth selling themselves to get that. I think most people would feel that way. The issue is no one should be forced to have to make that choice. Let's see what happens I a situation where all people have their basic needs met. How many mail order brides or barely legal teens w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:43 PM
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Yeah crazy that feminists dislike the exploitation of women overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:44 PM
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Cops are often the horrible men themselves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:43 PM
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Why was that a big deal? An opportunity to make a repeat customer out of an idle Richie rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:42 PM
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Lots of people stay in shitty marriages. I guess that's on them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:15 PM
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Some aspects of it are good. It's the part where they suggest turning into a sociopathic misogynist monster that I take issue with. You can pursue what is best for you without cracking spines along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:13 PM
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They outright said getting widowed makes women happy but men miserable. I don't doubt that at all based on my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:11 PM
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No. In the majority of shipwrecks, women have a much lower survival rate than men, which is consistent with the idea of every man for himself. Male chivalry seems to be completely unimportant or non-existent in reality when it comes to maritime disasters.” https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Myth-of-Women-and-Children-First So while there are exceptions in which some men sacrifice themselves, it stands out because it's rare. As for war, women were actively barred from participating BY MEN. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:10 PM
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As I said elsewhere: In the majority of shipwrecks, women have a much lower survival rate than men, which is consistent with the idea of every man for himself. Male chivalry seems to be completely unimportant or non-existent in reality when it comes to maritime disasters.” https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Myth-of-Women-and-Children-First
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:06 PM
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It does actually. Maybe you only read the beginning. Those are rare examples, whereas statistically women have a much lower rate of survival and men usually don't put "women and children first" You don't have to like it, but it's the facts. Facts over feelings!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:04 PM
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Literally in your own link, women aren't happy until their husbands finally fucking die "This may be because many older people are widowed by then, which generally boosts happiness in women but makes men more miserable, psychiatrists claim."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:03 PM
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Correct. I will say though that someone as repugnant as Rollo is not likely to have a normal loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:02 PM
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In the majority of shipwrecks, women have a much lower survival rate than men, which is consistent with the idea of every man for himself. Male chivalry seems to be completely unimportant or non-existent in reality when it comes to maritime disasters.” https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Myth-of-Women-and-Children-First
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:01 PM
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1/3, but whatever. OK, you're totally right and you just can't be bothered to provide anything to back it up because uh. Because reasons. And because you're deffo not making up shit. K.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:55 PM
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Well sure, but as a woman I wouldn't have kids for someone who fails to give me orgasms daily. So that part isn't the issue for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:54 PM
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Right, they don't get married. So they will ultimately "win" at happiness, but society isn't about to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:15 PM
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Men march into war for resources or because the elites want something. It's certainly not to benefit women. And guess what, women can join the military now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:14 PM
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You're changing the subject. The question was who gets married, not who is happiest, which if we really want to explore THAT is single ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:12 PM
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If I could be the dad/husband, I'd be fine with parenthood because the role is easier and more fun. Being the mother actively sucks balls because most of the worst parts (getting up all night, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, breastfeeding, going back to work with a still hurt body, daily managing of the children and their needs, etc etc etc) falls on the mom. If I could just take the kids to the park once in a while and be a hero, that would be so much better. Hey look I made them Mac and cheese o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:11 PM
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ignoring that just as many women would be happy to do the same. Where was that study? How would they harm me or anyone else exactly? What are the stats on rape and violence perpetrators and their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:48 PM
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How often is it that the "free" drink/ride/product comes with an expectation of sezual payment and rage if that payment is not made?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:20 PM
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"Women first" happened because men would take the liferafts and leave behind their wives to drown even though there was plenty of room. Men did not give a single fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:18 PM
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Lol explain Trump supporters and their Qanon crazy shit pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:15 PM
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Someone can be married. It doesn't mean that is a "normal, loving relationship"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:09 PM
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argument for why the current social norms are ok and should continue This supposes an alternative. If you're proposing authoritarian regressive traddy shit, that's not better. Freedom to choose, even if the results aren't ideal, is better than controlling people's dating choices (which also has negative results including rape, abuse, and murder).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:08 PM
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I was called a literal nazi for saying women should kill rapists. I asked for an explanation on that ball of crazy and received no response. TRP in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:59 PM
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Wow, amazing. If 1/3 of women said they'd torture men for fun if they could, I'm sure you'd say "hurr durr not the majority of women though!" rather than have concerns about how safe if is to be friends with or date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:27 PM
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Can you define what qualifies as a "slut" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:22 PM
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100% true. The selective ones that don't sleep around have a harder time. Watch what men do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:19 PM
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Case in point on misogyny. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:13 PM
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"Women love to bully"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:41 PM
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Emotionally neglecting your children is abusive. I would never want to be with a man who would do that. Only emotionally empty women who would also neglect their children would want that I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:30 PM
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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a35207/study-one-in-three-men-would-rape-if-they-could/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:17 PM
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This isn’t to say anything should be “forced” to be given to men, but women should also STFU about legalizing prostitution or men going to other countries to find a partner, yet women still shame all of it. That's because prostitution and going to other countries to find someone economically desperate are both predatory acts. You are using someone's bad situation so you can have sex. That's incredibly disgusting and morally bankrupt. It is a shameful action, why are you surprised some people rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:06 PM
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That was a rhetorical "idk" And are you saying you yourself are a troll? Because you've been misogynistic yourself. Are you a windmill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:04 PM
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Men obviously. We're still undoing the patriarchy and white supremacy and I doubt we'll ever fully undo any of that. The sooner men are relegated to hard labor as suits them, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:02 PM
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I just think there's a correlation between viewing sex as a healthy expression of love that belongs in a marriage, and not denying your husband sex. Perhaps. And you still may get a deadbedroom. Cause classifying the expectation of sex within a marriage as rape totally didn't do it. You can expect that sex is a healthy part of marriage and yet one of you may not feel well THAT DAY or THAT WEEK even. Or maybe someone is grieving or recovering from childbirth or surgery or is just mad at you after…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:01 PM
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Never said I'd create single moms. Are deliberately choosing to twist my words or can you genuinely not comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:45 PM
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Nope. They're not obsessing about his n count and what he has done sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:44 PM
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How did I contradict myself exactly? Idk if you realize that IUDs and other forms of birth control can and do fail. I personally know a married mother of two that ended up getting pregnant again despite using an IUD. She gave birth, but that wasn't a happy surprise. By the time she was aware of her pregnancy it was too far along for plan B. This is not uncommon. Married women are a significant portion of those that get abortions, the majority I think. Adoption is a really fucked up thing and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:05 AM
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I'm not trying to tell you to not care about n count. I'm saying it's not a guarantee. Feminism hasn't killed sex within marriage. It has killed the normalization of RAPE within marriage. It has killed the idea of staying with your partner despite abuse. Leaving ideally is a last resort, but again you can't control your partner. If only one of you is fighting for the marriage, it's a broken marriage. If you cannot stand the arrangement your partner is offering, you need to make a choice for your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:56 AM
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Oh OK, how integral are we talking exactly? What did they write? Like what percentage and what content? Because it seems to me 99% of religion is ancient sexist trash that to this day results in child brides, grooming, abuse, and more. It's a tool to control people and it works seemingly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:52 AM
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I mean for the occasional sensitive male that can reason, sure, we don't have to fully divide roles based on gender lines... but clearly there's a way this should shake out and it isn't our current structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:47 AM
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I'm saying there isn't any female equivalent to the crazy shit spewed on TRP daily. Women do have egos and toxicity and whatever else, but it's not even a drop in the bucket compared to what I read here. The ownership/entitlement men here feel towards women they might date someday is craaaayzzzzzzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:45 AM
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These guys are generally misogynistic with views that range from "let's trick women and emotionally manipulate them for sex since they're half people" all the way to "let's legalize rape and force women into marriages/relationships" It's not a shock to me that some women delight in the misery of that subset of males. Idk why it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:42 AM
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Never say never, but it's unlikely. I've never wanted kids, although if I could be in the dad role I'd consider it. Being a mom seems like a raw deal so I'd rather not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:38 AM
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How many subs do you know of that are dedicated to women obsessing over whether Billy let his ex fuck him in some special twisted way or not? If he's ever let his ex peg him, he better bend over twice a day and thrice on Sundays! If a sex tape of him fucking the cheerleading team is anonymously mailed to her, DIVORCE THAT USED UP SLUT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:02 AM
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I've seen it twice today already 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:56 PM
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Idk what you're talking about beyond "well if girls were sold sometimes boys were and so sexism isn't real. " Men really can't handle logic, every day on this sub. If we really cared about gender essentialism, we'd keep men in hard labor and let women handle all intellectual pursuits, but emotional men and their egos can't handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:50 PM
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That's what someone that views relationships in that lens would say. Stuck in that restrictive paradigm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:47 PM
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🤨🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:46 PM
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Well men aren't any better. Half of people have an IQ below 100. I don't think forcing them to be parents is helping anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:41 PM
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Yeah OK, that makes sense. I'm using value in the sense of quality, not public appeal. You're using the mass appeal definition. Neither is "wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:40 PM
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I doubt he gave a shit if women were consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:39 PM
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They usually don't say that actually. Lots of polygamy in the Bible and Quaran so.... But if a woman isn't fighting off her rapist enough she must have wanted it, that stupid slut. Let's stone her. Who do you think wrote that drivel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:37 PM
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Idk what to tell you. Look at actual humans in the world. Religion is obviously taking its toll. It's ridiculous to claim it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:36 PM
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No. There's tons of erotic literature online that isn't in mainstream literature. You know why? Gatekeeping by publishing companies It's scandalous and women are conscious of their reputation. That's why it was a big deal when 50 shades of Grey broke through. THAT pushed the bounds and upset the pearl clutchers and it is completely tame. Again, some women can't even admit what they want to THEMSELVES because of a lifetime of brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:32 PM
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Right. It's well deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:29 PM
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Do you understand that not every single person needs to reproduce for humanity to continue? I can't help you if you can't comprehend that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:29 PM
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You mean besides the ones that already exist or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:28 PM
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Degrading women to score bro points. Also potentially tacit admission of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:27 PM
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K?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:25 PM
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The issue is you can't control other people. So if your partner is making you miserable, you need to take responsibility for yourself and decide if you're willing to stay or if you need to leave. That's all you do have control over, no matter what you think they "should" do. A virgin could leave you. Anyone can. I think men on this sub obsess over n counts because it gives them a false sense of control. Life is risk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 11:24 PM
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Obviously NOT forgetting, ALL the legal responsibility too. Do you have all that sympathy for white slave owners too? Oh its so haaaaard to oppress everyone, hmm? You mean how the bride's parents had to: pay for almost the entire wedding? give her a dowry? support her even after marriage? How did they support her after marriage? And if you think preteens had any agency when married off, we have nothing to discuss. Do you think women and girls weren't sold? You mean like Queens? ??? Who were marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:32 PM
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You think religion doesn't have a stranglehold on billions of people, about half of which are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:30 PM

Yeah it's hard to have a universal definition, but I think it's a mistake to define HV purely with shallow traits like looks/money. Is McDonald's high value because they've had billions of customers? Or is there clearly an elite level of restaurant even though there are far fewer patrons? Some criminal (i.e. Charles Manson) is clearly McDonald's, but IMO so is the rich celebrity that treats people like trash, has no ethics, and has no meaning in his life beyond a useless high paying job, self gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:28 PM
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Yeah, what would you define it as?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 04:23 PM
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People with a lot of money/power/beauty are more likely to act like pieces of shit because they have the upper hand and know they can get away with it. Women aren't dating Leonardo Dicaprio because they love him. They're doing it for his money, connections, and fame. Average Joe Shmoe doesn't have money/fame/connections/power to offer in exchange for her ignoring the fact that he is a piece of shit void of humanity. So he can still act like garbage, but most women will then just opt out. There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:32 PM
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How much choice did these wives have in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:16 PM
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Also, the women on here are knowingly pushing these guys' buttons to get a response. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:15 PM
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If that's true why aren't men asking to be SAH husbands? Why aren't you mobilizing to give up your voting rights, education access, jobs, etc so you can have that allegedly cushy home life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:12 PM
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Why is it a catastrophe? Perhaps most people just can't handle a lifetime of marriage. Perhaps humans aren't meant to mate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:09 PM
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I don't know what would give you that impression. I have no qualms about using lethal force in defense of oneself and others. That's abortion then. But let's take the immediate health risk out of it. Say she's a 25 year old rape victim. If you think abortion is okay in that case, how does that make sense? The fetus didn't rape her. You would still be "murdering" a "baby" The question is, why should someone that already made the choice to ignore those 5 options, get the 6th option of abortion? Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:08 AM

According to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:57 AM

Ehh that doesn't seem right. Someone can be Charles Manson and have a cult of personality, but they're clearly low value garbage. I think HV is more of an ideal. Like character is the most important part. Someone who is kind but when backed into a corner will act ethically and at their own inconvenience. Someone can be HV in that respect but still not a match for an individual due to anesthetics and/or life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:57 AM

Perhaps the issue is HV is relative and subjective then. I'm a woman and I view someone that cheats, hurts others physically, or disrespects people as LV. All the abs and cash in the world can't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:53 AM
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Do you deny that? Watch 90 day fiance sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:51 AM
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I doubt it was women writing stories about how God is deffo a man that hates women and wants them to submit to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:49 AM
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It's not very socially acceptable to admit that you want men fighting over you either, Yes it is. It's in basically all media and is a common story since ye olden times. But monogamy is heavily socially pushed still. Even gay and trans stories are largely fringe and get a lot of hate. So polyandry is a hard sell when women haven't unshackled ourselves fully from the constraints society pushes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:49 AM
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If you look at polygamy, it's not hot women with lots of options doing it. It's almost always a weird religious cult and involved minors or coercion... or they're obviously desperate. But keep hampstering if you want I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:45 AM
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If a person wants to have random sex with willing partners, it's their life and their choice. If they want marriage, OK same deal. If in that marriage they no longer want sex, that is their right. Their partner can leave or have a dead bedroom. Or cheat I guess, but that one is pretty scummy. Just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:44 AM
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We have billions of people. A subset not getting a WANT (not need) met will not cause extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:41 AM
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It's amazing how much men hamster their cheating and disrespect. But you're right that it's interesting to see men's illogical thought processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:40 AM
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No one needs sex. No one will die without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:28 AM
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That's just to fall in line with social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:24 AM
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It's also a female fantasy. Essentially owning a variety of partners that don't want anyone else is all about ego. Both men and women can have massive egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:23 AM
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But when a woman is polyamorous it just seems to be some desperate guys who settled to share a relationship. That's also true when men do it but men like to pretend it isn't. Or it's a bunch of groomed children in a cult. Either way, it's just as pathetic if not criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:20 AM
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Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:04 AM
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Men historically held all the legal power. Women and girls were straight up sold into "relationships" so they weren't the ones making the rules. Religion was also created by men. Women may sometimes enforce this shit thanks to a lifetime of brainwashing, but it was absolutely created by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 03:02 AM
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Shit tons of intervention and therapy. If a sociopath idk what they do with sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:08 AM

The professional athletes are also usually dumb and shitty (DV, cheating, multiple kids with various women, etc), not HV. Unless your definition of HV is purely money based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:07 AM
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Despite you attempting to frame this as a "normal" position, it isn't nor should it be. The fact that you equate nationalistic white supremacy as right wing is interesting but unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:46 AM
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? Tell me, if we agreed rape babies could be aborted, but that's it, would you concede, or would you move the goal post again? The issue is either you actually think it's murder so you wouldn't want to "murder" a "baby" even in a rape case, even if she's only 11 years old. OR you don't think it's "murder" you just want to control women you consider bad. Humans have been giving birth since long before we were Yeah well humans also have been dying of infections since the dawn of time. Should we de…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:35 AM
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It's almost like "blueballs" aren't more important than someone's bodily autonomy. Like people shouldn't have rights to use another's body...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:20 AM
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Hmm, I think part of the gold digging part is opportunity via citizenship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:18 AM
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Ah well I understood his response re: gender and sex are different. The response to that was such garbage that it made sense for him to write him off with a "hey peace bro. Good luck with your shitty life" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:17 AM
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So yes, KKK shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:14 AM
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Well I think there are different women that want different things. I know women that will date purely based on personality (no pictures first) Social judgment? I can't tell you how often I'm told I'm shallow for caring about looks or height or whatever. I don't give a fuck and I stick with my preferences, because I have a lot of self confidence. I don't think that self confidence is common. They may feel that because personality DOES matter, that they aren't lying. Or in their minds they care mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:48 PM
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Perhaps. I mean, I like them pretty. But most of my friends have married average looking guys. A few married what I would call uggos. It just depends. And I think if you're using OLD the bar is higher lookswise because personality cannot really be displayed properly on an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:42 PM
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Yeah again, doesn't everyone try harder for a hottie? You act like this is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:40 PM
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You don't have to believe me. That was a close friend who is in her mid 20s. She has a brother that believes women shouldn't be allowed to vote. So yeah, I have very few conservative friends and the ones I do have tricked me by not telling me their beliefs for years. So now I'm forced to decide if I want to still be friends or do the slow fade. By the way I used to be conservative myself, so I understand the mindset to some degree. But I'm just over it. Political beliefs have real world conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:39 PM
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? Explain the joke, how is that a burn? Oh no women have money and power 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:35 PM
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Yes and no one else will feel like extending grace to the people you love because you act antisocially with them. That is the natural consequence. I'm not worried about them or you, because that worry is undeserved. That's the social contract you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:34 PM
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Not in my mind, but I guess the difference is I care about people's well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:32 PM
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Well personality still matters though. Him having a nice ass but he kills puppies for fun is a hard pass. That's obviously an extreme example, but if you understand the puppy thing, then you can understand there's a gradient that includes looks and personality in combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:31 PM
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The point is that of course a 5/10 woman will swipe yes on a hunk. Why wouldn't she? Men do the same thing on looks based dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:29 PM
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I never will. I have a very high level of self respect, and I also think it's unethical to do that to another person. But obviously there are manipulative snakes out there in both genders. Nothing will stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:28 PM
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Because I think rapists are evil and should be given the death penalty? That sounds like a nazi to you? Are you pro rape or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:25 PM
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I agree with you. I think there's different lying strategies with the different types though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:24 PM
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She's a richy rich playing at being poor. A tweet isn't any kind of real sacrifice. She isn't actually putting her money where her mouth is and she obviously won't. This was all about marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:23 PM
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It's because men do not see women's bisexuality as "real" or they see it as performative for men. Women do not have that ownership of bi men in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:22 PM
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I'm sorry what's your question to me? If I met her, I wouldn't associate with her. I'm an atheist and she sounds nuts. She absolutely shouldn't date outside of her crazy cult. That's like asking if I think a KKK member should date a black person. Uh no, ideally that person doesn't date anyone and their ideas die with them, but barring that I guess if they have to inflict their shit on someone it should be a fellow KKK member, right? I think conservative traddy Trump lovers should date no one, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:20 PM
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Mmkay. I mean, I would never date anyone that votes for Trump and that's just one part of the political screening I do. You're free to think and behave otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:17 PM
1

If white nationalism is scandalous? You mean KKK shit? That's your bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:15 PM
1

Yeah your lack of value for empathy was clear. The thing is, that attitude is antisocial and usually results in the community freezing you and your family out. Or returning that same energy with your relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:14 PM
0

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:13 PM
3

What in this thread gives you the view they're a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:12 PM
2

Yeah fair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:12 PM
3

It's interesting to see how many people I would consider sexist on here talk about how they see sex as an expression of love. What is love then? Clearly some people think they "love" people that they don't respect or view as an equal. Their so called love seems to have very little practical value. Yes I think sex can be an expression of love but isn't always. I think it's a better experience when it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:08 PM
1

So to be clear you're mad women have choices and autonomy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:29 PM
2

🤣 Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:17 PM
1

Not your grandma dude, like general grandmas. It's being shitty to someone on purpose that makes people with empathy feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:15 PM
2

You're killing it. Love your EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:13 PM
1

They are. Me being shallow in my preferences doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:01 PM
1

Do you think 5/10 males aren't shooting their shot with 10/10 women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:59 PM
4

Or maybe we don't wanna bang guys that talk like this about women. The floor for arousal is going to vary woman to woman. Some are willing to fuck guys that make them dry as the Sahara and some are not. Its a cost/benefit calculation that will include things like "how much self respect do I have" and for some of us we'd rather never fuck again than fuck someone we aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:56 PM
2

There's a lot of men that don't talk like that. It's only the ones that do talk like that that think it's harmless "locker room talk"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:45 PM
6

That's a good rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:39 PM
1

OK but why are you doing his laundry? He can do his own laundry and find his own socks. Personally I don't like mixing my laundry with anyone else's anyway. Hell if he's being that much of an asshole about his clothes, I might start hiding them just to make his life harder 😂 but that's just because I'm petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:42 AM
1

The US is very right wing. Alt right is just code for white nationalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:06 PM
1

No Trumpies is a ridiculous standard to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:01 PM
2

I think women prefer fit, confident men who don't play video games." It does offend some men. Because if video games are a strong interest of yours, you rightfully do not feel it's fair for a partner to expect you to give that up. I don't care if men prefer tattoo-free virgins, because I'm not that and don't want to be that and that's that. Men can prefer what they want, this isn't me saying their preferences are bad. What I am saying is a common opposite sex preference doesn't mean one's person…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:55 PM
1

Grimes comes from money. She was always a conservative at core most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:08 PM
3

So a guy could be handsome, well off, funny, witty, considerate of his partner and you still wouldn't ever consider them as a potential romantic consideration due to political differences? Yeah, depending on what those differences are. Your core beliefs are important. Politics are a reflection of those core beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:07 PM
1

Then all men are trash by your definition. I don't agree that all men will lie to get in a woman's pants, so that's not my belief. If I truly believed what you said, I would write men off as worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:56 PM
1

I listened to the quote and nothing about that was consent. It was entitlement. If she froze in shock he would call that "consent"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:34 PM
1

Shocking that women who are taught their only value is in marriage and kids and they owe their husbands sex even when sick or in pain will generally believe that and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:33 PM
1

Have you heard of brainwashing/grooming?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:32 PM
2

Then conservatives shouldn't be upset and they shouldn't need to put "other" or "moderate" on their dating profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:31 PM
1

What should happen in rape cases? What do you think pregnancy and birth does to a person? Should we be able to take your spare kidney against your will to save another person's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:30 PM
1

Nah, it's because I do talk to them that I dislike them. Or they are batshit crazy, which I have some sympathy for, but ultimately want to keep at arm's length. I've already heard the "can't get vaccinated because it's the government testing the limits if it's power" speech from three separate conservatives. Also apparently electric cars are also a trick for government control, in case you didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:05 PM
4

That's like saying the most miserable slaves are the ones who don't accept their lot in life. Agitators may be "miserable" but they also aren't submitting to oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:58 PM
0

Women would be well within their rights to gun down all those future rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:07 PM
2

Misleading. Men see bi women as an opportunity to fuck more women and that its for his benefit. Homophobia is often targeted against men far more, from both men and women. So obviously this plays out in dating scenes differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:00 PM
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I've seen this come up more lately in women's circles. The idea that he's just using her for an incubator/his "legacy." Also that he marries the one who's around, not the one he loved the most. I personally find either of the above scenarios abhorrent and I think many women do outside of typical pickmes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:14 PM
4

Same. So much of what's posted on here sounds like some extreme taken off of trash t.v. like Jerry Springer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:55 PM
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People are superficial. Many women like height. Mamy men like tits and ass. Personally I like men with a nice ass, and so? This is about a presumably sexual relationship. Physical shit plays in unless we met when were 6 and have been best friends for 20 years... and even then it probably matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:54 PM
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Maybe she wanted the power in the relationship and he's meant to be an accessory. Men do this often, do you look down on those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:42 PM
1

I'm saying if he wants a more dependent woman, odds are she is strategizing and less likely to actually be in love. She's there for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:34 PM
1

It's a vetting strategy, like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:29 PM
1

Shocker, humans judge other humans and their level of consistency. News st 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:26 PM
1

And given your preferences, you think there's nothing wrong with gold diggers or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:53 AM
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That is not my impression of them but I haven't read a ton of it. To me it seems like they want to vet for genuine interest/good character and they test any potential man a lot over a long time to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:51 AM
1

I like their cold chicken wrap, because I'm a monster like that. 🤣 I don't like fried chicken or waffle fries, but I was impressed by that wrap!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:49 AM
2

What subreddit is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:48 AM
1

OK I mean I have also been ghosted or ignored. Online dating is a shitshow and numbers game. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Let it roll off your back. Also I've had men write me 5 paragraphs as a starter including information like "my young kids live across the country with their mom" which is a deal breaker for me. So when there's an early flag like that, I'm going to drop him. It wasn't that he didn't put in effort, it's that I know he isn't someone I care to get to know better and it's early enough (i.e. we haven't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:47 AM
1

Most women aren't trying to use men for money. Obviously sex work is a different thing. If you want sex from someone you hate, that isn't healthy. There's an implication of nefarious intent, especially since there's alternatives available.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:37 AM
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Well I can't speak to what other women are thinking... and neither can you. I will say that I do think treating human bodies as a commodity is a problem. This is why you cannot legally sell your organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:35 AM
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Look up the stats. Low six figures is in the top 10% in most US states. Can't speak to NY or CA. Like I said, if you're only talking the top 0.1% or so, I can't speak to that. But you don't have to be cutthroat to do reasonably well compared to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:32 AM
1

It'll even out eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:30 AM
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Idk, I just like thinking of it that way. Especially for the people that think of sex workers as less than. All those "less than" male gynos... 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:28 AM
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The logical gender, amiright 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:27 AM
1

You're here too buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:24 AM
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Women that consider men wallets are usually upfront about that (sex workers, sugar babies) and by the way, again, if you just want to cum that's an option. Clearly you actually want something malicious though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:23 AM
2

You didn't say anything worth a more in depth comment. You still haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:22 AM
2

Same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:03 AM
3

Right. So you don't need women to cum. So you can leave them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:02 AM
1

Based on his other comments, he just hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:02 AM
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Moments like this, I'm ready for social distancing to fully end. Let the unvaxxed face the consequences and what happens happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:56 AM
1

There's a comedian that addresses this. She blames her inability to date on having a healthy relationship with her dad and guys only want fucked up girls. (Obviously she makes it funny and I'm not doing it justice)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:48 AM
2

I don't think the evidence supports your hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:42 AM
2

You shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:34 AM
2

What would your goal be in interacting with women besides cumming if women are your enemy? There wouldn't be one. So if women are your enemies then leave them alone. Simple as that. You don't need a human woman to come, there's fleshlights or your hand or an apple pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:30 AM
4

So are most men "hoe"s then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:45 PM
2

Ohhhhh noooooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:18 PM
2

Johnny sounds like an alcoholic hot mess. Jimmy is less risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:10 PM
5

That's silly. Someone will always disagree with your choices. Are we all victims now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:10 PM
2

Lol. Men always have inflated egos. 1 in 8 untrained men thinks he could beat Serena Williams. Spoiler: ya can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:08 PM
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Well she can try and get one of these trad guys on here to take over her entire life. Sounds like a match made in... well. A match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 05:06 PM
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She has no choice but to work unless she can marry a man in the top 15%. Not true. Live below your means, learn how to budget, tend a garden to help with food costs. I know SAHMs with middle class husbands. Especially given that child care often costs more than one salary, sometimes one parent staying home is the most frugal option.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:58 PM
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Then actually we should be promoting SAHDs. I'm all for that. Fewer men in the workplace! A dad's place is in the home!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:55 PM
1

Statistically kids that have moms who work do better. Mothers who work full-time do spend less time with their children, but they tend to trade quantity of time for better quality time. Maternal employment, generally speaking, appears to have a positive effect on children’s cognitive development. https://journalistsresource.org/economics/working-mother-employment-research/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:54 PM
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Women (and men) should always be self sufficient. A relationship can and often will end. Putting your eggs in the relationship basket at the expense of personal security is a mistake. If it doesn't cost you too much/risk too much, sure be in relationships throughout your early grind days. But don't get married and assume that's a retirement plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:47 PM
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I mean I'm not that old and I've seen people get taken out in their 40s and 50s by cancer or dementia or car accidents. Shit happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:43 PM
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I am none of those things and I make six figures. If you only define success as someone at the very top, then sure maybe. But you can hit top 10% of earners and still be a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:42 PM
2

So gynecologists were basically highly paid sex workers.... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:39 PM
1

Men are better at most jobs. I want a return to 1950s without the racism. Probably it's the blatant sexism in "men are better at most jobs" Also a lack of opportunity outside the home means you are more vulnerable. You have economic dependence which means you have less power. If he is abusive, disloyal, criminal, etc, you're more trapped. Also idk why people think the 1950s was a happy time. It's called lots of wine and drugs and hiding abuse/misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 04:35 PM
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You said energy one time and all his biases reared up to bite you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 04:06 AM
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Probably a 7 or 8. Ooh I'm an elder. Well I'm generally a happy person and have been most of my life. There's been temporary crises that have led to a dip occasionally for maybe a few years at most, but overall I trend towards contentment. I'm now better at managing any unhappiness or stress I have than I used to be, because I've developed those skills. I engage in a lot of proactive maintenance (i.e. therapy and meditation). So while I'm generally happy now and was generally happy then, I'm mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:58 AM
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Correct, originally from Oregon so I had my first Chikfila experience like 2 years ago. I don't like their politics but it was a friend's bday request so I made an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:40 AM
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Men do that too. I stop engaging with many matches because they say shit to me like "I like golf" and that's their whole contribution to the conversation. Like what do I do with that? "Wow you sound boring af" 😴
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:39 AM
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The vast majority of teens aren't as responsible, long term thinking, prudent, and experienced as someone 30+. Most 30+ year olds will find teens childish and immature, because they are. So if a grown ass man decides to date someone barely legal, don't be shocked when they act their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:37 AM
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Idk what is morally correct here, but virginity isn't something harmful to lie about unlike say an STD... so IMO it's okay. But other people may feel differently of course. Ideally you'd be able to be honest because your partner is safe and won't judge you, but ideal isn't always reality so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:53 PM
0

Define high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:41 PM
1

Perhaps. I think they can be raised a certain way but the reality is people change and you don't always like who they change into. I believe in working things out and putting in a ton of effort into my relationships, but there's a few caveats such as: I can't carry the team on my back. If he's not trying (and our efforts can both wax and wane at times, but he has to try more than 5%, 99% of the time), we are going to fail. We have to always have respect for each other, and anything that threaten…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:40 PM
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Online =/= real life. I have no connection or vibe with ANY online guy. There's nothing to narrow on except appearance and maybe a joke or a hobby we share. That's it. I think that's the major downfall of apps for dating, there's a lot of people that could be a good fit if you meet them in a neutral setting and build a rapport over weeks or months of just doing a hobby together or your job or going to the same parties. But trying to go on dates with hundreds of men at random isn't a great strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:36 PM
1

OK. If I ever get it, I'll report back. People around here keep talking up Cookout, so maybe one day I'll try that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:31 PM
1

I can't speak to efficiency from personal experience, but paying for it has a guaranteed outcome. Plus again, in paying for it you are acting potentially more "ethically" (assuming she is not underage/sex trafficked). PUA inherently seems to get off on the trickery as part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:30 PM
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Sure and being a 40 year old virgin woman is also weird. That doesn't mean women want a fuckboy. I will say as a non-trad woman, someone my age being a virgin begs the question of WHY. Is he super religious? (no thanks) Is he very weird/creepy? No thanks. I'm not saying all male virgins are creeps. But as someone that has to be thoughtful of subtle warnings for my own safety, late adult virginity sets off a warning bell. That's not always going to be fair, but I'm still going to be cautious and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:27 PM
1

What does "raised well" look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:22 PM
1

...??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:22 PM
1

What should I order? I drive across country twice a year and many of the flyover states lack food options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:21 PM
2

😂👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:19 PM
5

Or they just want to "date" actual teenagers and then are shocked those teens aren't adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:12 PM
6

Your definitions of sexual resources and strategy seem about right to me. Not so much the other two terms. The thing is, if all you want is access to pussy (aka sexual resources) there are women that offer that either for a fee or via hookup apps. It seems like part of the appeal for many TRP men is tricking/manipulating women that don't want what they want. What's that about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:10 PM
6

But he's your ex for a reason... maybe that's what's holding him back?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:44 PM
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One of them is bound to be a little taller, make a little more money, etc. Cuz that's not important. "Maximizing" your partner sounds exhausting, especially because height/income/whatever aren't going to compare to an existing strong bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:42 PM
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Yeah, men seem to think women want men with the highest n count. A lot (not all) of women want someone who is similar to them - has had relationships and sex before, but not excessively.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:17 PM
2

Not if they want someone saving it for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:16 PM
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I don’t know if the same would be for a woman That is in the same shoes 32, good looks, mostly homeless, no career just jobs here and there, an STD, an addiction that puts her in rehab almost on a yearly basis. Men on here talk about how homeless isn't a deterrent if she's hot. Also their career and intelligence are irrelevant. So yes. It would be the same. MeN lOVe DaRk tRIaD WoMeN
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:14 PM
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I would imagine his alcoholism and general struggles aren't obvious and he doesn't lead with that when hitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:12 PM
0

Absolutely. Kids learns independence and that the world doesn't revolve around them. Having a working mom is crucial to avoiding having sexist kids. I love my SAHM friend, but her kids (all daughters) didn't know women could work because she doesn't model that for them. Statistically, kids from single parent or low income families do better behaviorally and academically when their mother works. Less stress is likely the reason. The initial pregnancy and post-birth is when moms need time to recov…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:05 PM
1

I don't eat fast food unless you count Chipotle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:48 PM
1

Conservative is like the first thing I screen out. Even if he's gorgeous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:46 PM
1

No. Identify as what you are. Personally as a liberal I don't want to date a moderate. A moderate pretending to be a liberal is sneaky shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:45 PM
1

How would that solve the issue? She may inherently not enjoy sex, or sex with the one guy she tries it with, or the mommy-son dynamic still happens... there's still the same issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:45 PM
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Religion, in at least one elderly woman's case I heard "reputation" as the reason she wouldn't divorce him, the kids, fear of the unknown... there's a lot of reasons. So even with like a 50% divorce rate, the ones that stay married aren't necessarily the "successful" relationships. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:43 PM
1

Or how a 23 year old is easily manipulated by a much older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:25 PM
1

Where are all the stories of women doing this kind of shit then? Let's close the objectification gap. More misandry!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:22 PM
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Yes. Moderate is often conservative in hiding. Approach with caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:55 AM
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If you don't actually like her as a friend and you are faking friendship to get your dick wet. Not if you genuinely like her as a person AND want to date her. That's the nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:31 AM
1

Yeah but stigmatizing divorce isn't necessarily better. That keeps people trapped in abusive situations or even just toxic ones that damage their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:26 AM
1

I have never eaten that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:24 AM
1

Wanting sex isn't inherently bad. But if you cannot be genuine friends with women then please stop pretending. Deception is the morality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:23 AM
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Idk, personal theory: Familiarity breeds contempt. Also, if she takes care of you like a mommy would, she either will or has lost all respect for you. No good mommy wants to fuck her baby. This is why IMO the best approach is living apart or having separate rooms of the house (if affordable). You need private space and to not clean each other's dirty toilets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:22 AM
1

No idea why men would downvote you for not allowing orbiting? It goes against their AWALT theories. Women are eeeeeeevil etc. Also how dare I remove leverage, I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:20 AM
1

That's good. Thank you for removing yourself from the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:17 AM
1

So when you eat a woman out, you are submitting then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:15 AM
1

Best bot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:10 AM
3

Literally the opposite is true but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:10 AM
1

What about the beauty of childbirth You do it and then call it beautiful. Vomiting constantly and losing teeth and possibly my life is a no for me, bruh. Eta: remember how people lie? Lots of women regret having kids. It's just socially unacceptable to say that out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:07 AM
0

That's why I made sure to pick a career where I can make a lot of money and work 40 hrs or less per week. I know people that have less structured lives and work even less than I do for good money, but I don't like risk and I do like a healthy retirement so I'm good with my choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:06 AM
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The bad part comes when they realize they are fucking miserable, but also they are in their 50s and it's kinda too late to change it. Seems like that happens to married women way more often than to single ones 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:01 AM
1

But the latter is what matters. Anyone can stop having sex. That doesn't fix the issue they're trying to solve which is to get a HVM. They openly say there aren't enough HVM for everyone or even most women to find one. That many will just have to be single and it's better than the alternative. Acheiving getting a HVM is supposed to be a bonus. Like, yay, you found the golden ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:55 AM
1

Flexing on the internet? Isn't that what you're doing with your story of your gf you take seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:51 AM
2

I did not know that's what pink pill is. Thanks for the info!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:42 AM
0

If it's not a big deal to take a financial hit because "unit" let's see the men do it then. And if we all have been doing chores since childhood, then there's no excuse for men to fake incompetence. They can do the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:39 AM
0

women idolized JFK Jr What? Since when?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:31 AM
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I would theoretically date a blue collar man, but there's often other issues that come up. For example, more BC men are right wing on average and that's a nonstarter for me. We also usually lack shared interests. Education sometimes (not always) is a barrier. Religion. Values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:22 AM
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Thank God. Who wants to be a SAHM?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:18 AM
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Like generally attracts like. Educated people generally want to be around other educated people. There's also MANY people in this country that never completed college. Not to mention all the people that never went at all. There are also many people that struggled in school throughout their lives. So for a solid chunk of women in those buckets, he will be of similar or perhaps better status/competence/etc. I personally do pay attention to grammar/spelling in potential matches and use it as a scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:13 AM
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Being me McDonald's and it's DIVORCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:52 PM
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I don't allow orbiting because I feel a sense of obligation to reciprocate and I don't want to have to do that. I also don't want him thinking I owe him something (and potentially forcing the issue). Men here HATE that. I get downvoted when I say it. So clearly orbiters want to feel that there is a debt to be paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:51 PM
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when men interact with women, they want sex, because men are bad people. Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:49 PM
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If you are exes, you are not friends. That's why. Grow boundaries and tell your ex to fuck off. Better yet, never get the message because they are blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:47 PM
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So guys should never care about the success of average guys with the aim of making the universe more fair on a timeline that would ever help them individually What would fair even be anyway? How would that be accomplished?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:18 PM
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When I was online dating I removed no hookups from my profile because men see it as a challenge. Better to let them tell/show you what they actually want and block accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:11 PM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:26 PM
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Absolutely. Abundance drives down cost. Basic supply & demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:25 PM
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There's reading and there's comprehension. Obviously I read it since I wrote most of it. And unlike you, I know what the words mean both individually and in aggregate. I guess you're just not going to try though. I'm over explaining it to you. I didn't pick education as a career for a reason; it's frustrating and doesn't pay well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:19 PM
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Yes, you don't like women as people. So don't engage with them as though you're a friend. You're not. You want sex and that should always be your clear objective. You should honestly stick to sex workers as that exchange is explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:31 PM
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You expect a whore to perform sexually. That's like the one thing you're there for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:12 PM
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Right so you shouldn't have any female friends at all then because you don't like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:11 PM
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Lol. You must be an alt for silveryspoons. You didn't read it right. Keep trying, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:43 PM
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Yeah I knew what you meant. Typo was obvious. And I actually agree, best sex is LTR, but even then it's not guaranteed. I'm saying if he doesn't try or care, don't fuck him. Cut him loose. He's deadweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:42 PM
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Women with this attitude think the attention, validation, and privilege from their youth and beauty lasts forever. I don't think that at all and men don't generally do shit for me anyway. The ones that do usually are only offering gifts and other niceties in order to get something/make me owe them something, so it's not worth the hidden costs. So I decline. Nothing is worth giving up your freedom. There is no such thing as the "happy slave" and women around the world suffer immensely at the hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:39 PM
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Wanting sex from your female friends and not giving a shit about them unless they fuck you isn't natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:34 PM
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What specifically are you investing and what do you think women friends should be giving? Because sex isn't a friends thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:32 PM
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That's not what I said. You didn't read it right, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:58 AM

Yeah so that backs up what I was saying in the first place. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:22 AM
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Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:21 AM
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She doesn't have a boyfriend. She has a hookup buddy. So idk why so many people are worried about her loyalty to him, first of all. This isn't a grand love story for the ages. We have no evidence at this moment that she is engaging in sexual immorality, because the rules of her hookups have not been shared. The example is meant to illustrate what a hang-up is, not clarify her specific situation, and perhaps you are not a native English speaker given you are so confused by common language.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:21 AM

Stupid shit meaning their own kids? Or they prioritize not dealing with their ex over their bond with their kids? Either way, not helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:34 AM
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You realize your words are right there for all to see right? Plus I screenshot. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:32 AM
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But Experimenting with human beings is evil. Toying with people's love is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:31 AM
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I think that's just brainwashing. I look forward to this changing over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:31 AM
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There are a lot of good screening techniques, but some of them are smarter. They learn, like raccoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:30 AM
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The guy feels like a whore. Because he is. No one is fucking a man on a first date for his stunning personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:29 AM
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men are biologically designed to cut quickly as it is what benefits the species most So why should women engage in it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:26 AM
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Women think they can sleep around like men, but they can't. Its differen Looks like they can though. Regardless, women have made themselves into commodities Verses when they were property bought and sold by fathers and husbands? Or of course, option #2, prostitutes. Sure miss those days of "not being a commodity" Me owning my own home and doing whatever I want with my life sure does sound woefully inferior. Hate all that agency and self determination that I experience as a commodity! If only I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:24 AM
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No hymen, no diamond. Not a freshness seal. Virginity is just a social construct, just like marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:20 AM
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Men ask for that, but I'd rather be "difficult" I guess. I wish that was the first thing out of their mouths to save time/effort though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:18 AM
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Yeah, but is that extra money worth putting up with this guy? Money past like 70k doesn't have much influence on your happiness anyway. So there has to be some other value and it has to outweigh the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:13 AM
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Women "lost" in the sense that they've severely reduced the odds that they'll ever find a man they can be happy with, a You say that like it's important to find a man in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:11 AM
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Do you have to stay friends with people regardless of how they treat you? If someone asks you on a date are you required to go? Do you have to marry the first person that asks you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:30 AM
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You didn't say the opposite. You justified it as moral and righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:29 AM

The red flags in this thread haven't been coming from the women, my dude. But yes, bad people exist in all genders and sexualities etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:25 AM

Thank you, appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 01:23 AM
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Yeah the part where she wants to shoot all nonbelievers and she truly thinks her idea of morality is the One True Way means either Troll or Psycho. Idk now. Scary shit if the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:39 AM

Literally every time I think my opinion of men has hit rock bottom, PPD comes screaming in with something worse. Not trying to be a dick to you personally, that is my honest reaction to this whole thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:37 AM
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Did you understand the example? Do you think Person A is reasonable or unreasonable? If you don't understand commonly used words, try Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:35 AM

Disagree. Acting on it while in a monogamous relationship is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 12:34 AM
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I did not call being in love a hangup. I'm saying that your pain because of what you associate with certain actions is YOUR filter, not anyone else's. Example: Person A grew up with parents that cheated and as a result, Person A has extreme sensitivity around cheating. A's partner (B) talking to an opposite sex person sets A off. A feels: B is flirting, gearing up to cheat. A is in pain! A hurts! But what actually happened? B ordered a beer from their waiter. Or made small talk while waiting in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:39 PM

Thank you for explaining this. I have to re-evaluate all my male friends now. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:29 PM
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I'm not 100% convinced she's a troll. She might just be extremely authoritarian fundamentalist religious
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 10:01 PM
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But your morals are not universal. I think it's immoral to teach people not to experiment and find the right person for them, including sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:43 PM

But I imagine most women know very clearly when they're treating a guy like a boyfriend in every sense except sleeping with him. And in my opinion, that's just not okay. I don't know that most women know where that line is, especially since it sounds like it's highly variable for you (and I'd imagine most men). But the rest of what you said makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:21 PM
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Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:19 PM
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How is what I said against love?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:57 PM
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You should live by your values, but no one else has to. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:56 PM

You can still control your actions even if you have feelings. It's not like once you start dating someone your ability to form a crush on someone else is eradicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:56 PM

What, it's supposed to be the highest good or some shit. What happened to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:21 PM

Do you not have any close female friends you don't want to fuck? Or is it that there's a hard line on the emotional depth for close female friend vs sexual relationship? Assuming it's the latter, is it obvious to you where that line is? Do you think it should be obvious to everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:18 PM

Desire isn't cheating. Desire isn't in our control. Flirting may be cheating depending on what the rules are for her current "hookup" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:13 PM

I've done that. I slept with a good friend and that's all it was. I didn't and don't love him. There's a number of reasons, the biggest one being that we've always had a certain amount of emotional distance. I am cool with hanging out, but we don't have a deep connection. Another reason is he is terrible in bed. Just the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:11 PM

Is that a typo? Did you mean "benefit me"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:08 PM

Hashtag notallwomen If I actually truly have feelings for him, I am going to want to fuck him. Unless I'm married or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:07 PM

Is there a reason you don't need it to go anywhere? Why would you not want to date this dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:06 PM
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OK, well, if you get cheated on remember to stay celibate then! Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:22 AM
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So in this scenario, Barry is asking for help and answers from pop culture media like Jezebel instead of a mental health professional? There should be (and I wouldn't be shocked if there are) anti-incel ideology groups that fight disinformation and de-radicalize at risk youth or whatever. I'm certainly not going to blame Jezebel etc for catering to their base. Is 17 also the reason men turn blackpill? Men need community, no doubt. And so men should form healthy outlets with one another. Women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:22 AM
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Idk where you get these ideas, but that's not the norm. Most people do not share your fundamentalism, it is restrictive and unnecessary. You also didn't answer my question. What happens if you save it for your spouse and they cheat on you. Are you meant to stay celibate for the rest of your life going forward or what? It's impractical and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:11 AM
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I'm aware that black people are disproportionately targeted, which in itself is racism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/15/police-shooting-study-retracted/ This may be of use to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:09 AM
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I've been watching Sex Education, and in it the main character dates the most popular girl in school. She's mean and pushy (he knew this going in) and she tells him what to wear so he's less "embarrassing" I think part of the point there is she doesn't like him for who he is. Or she maybe likes parts, but not the whole of him. He's also learning to be less of a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:03 AM
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I don't go to church because I can't stand delusional self-righteous assholes, so I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:58 AM
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Men are fully capable of dressing themselves. The issue is the women who are trying to change how their boyfriends dress don't like how they dress. They should either suck it up or stop dating men whose sense of style offends them. Obviously there are some people of any gender that struggle with style/fashion, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:26 AM
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I think the way to meet potential dates used to be church. For the nonreligious or nonpracticing, it's tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:40 AM
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Most people do not know what blackpill is. But what's your argument exactly? That when women experience targeted misogyny, they should be careful not to make it worse by responding with negativity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:39 AM
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I just shared the reality, and you're responding with nuh uh. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:40 AM
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How did that refute a single thing I said? Bullies often become bullies for a reason. Yet none of that excuses their bullying, nor should their targets and victims be expected to sympathize or fix their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:39 AM
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Oh totally have sex! But if you truly don't want kids, take responsibility for that and wrap/snip as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:37 AM
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People can experience pain as a result of their own hangups. That's not anyone else's fault or problem, even if they choose to externalize the cause. You also have yet to justify why sex should only be reserved for one person for life. What happens if you save it for that person but they cheat while married. Do you divorce? Have you wasted your sex on one person and you don't get to ever be with anyone else for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 12:34 AM
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No, police disproportionately targeting black people and executing them instead of taking them to a trial is racist. Not "anything and everything" but your willfully blindness certainly contributes to a culture where racism is permitted and in some cases encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:46 PM
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Lol, wrong. What makes you think it's "evil"? What's the logical justification for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:43 PM
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You could not be more wrong. Men are still raping and murdering women. Elliott R. wasn't the first and he won't be the last incel to lose his shit. I actually know men IN REAL LIFE that think women shouldn't be allowed to vote and that the purpose of women is to marry and have babies. And that cheating on his wife is none of her business because that's what men should do and as long as he supports her she has no reason to be upset. In 2021, men in their 20s with these views exist. They are a thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 09:04 PM
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Well I'm only human. When arguing with people that think I'm inherently inferior or should be forced into sex slavery, it's hard to always take the high road. And anyway, it's not always to deradicalize an incel. Some are definitely beyond saving. Buy maybe someone reading this garbage will see it is garbage and not start down that path.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:58 PM
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How so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:56 PM
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OK. I guess I am pro adultery then by that specific definition. I really don't think "saving yourself" for one person is necessary or even a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:54 PM
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All the recent BLM protests suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:03 PM
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you're legitimately here to help these men get into healthy relationships with women, then that's fantastic. No, God no. Omg. Never. I think women should stay far away. Then why the hell do you engage? What is the point of doing it? I don't think misogyny (or racism, antisemitism, homophobia, etc) should go unchallenged. If left alone it festers and grows and eventually laws change and you have full blown Nazis making the rules and gunning down any woman that wants to have free choice. Also it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:51 PM
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Sounds like an unwillingness to take responsibility for your own body fluids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:45 PM
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I never advocated for adultery. Sex before marriage is not adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:43 PM
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You think it's unreasonable to value your own spawn enough to move for them? And the fact that I would move for my hypothetical kids and expect others to value their kids at that level makes me "the worst poster"? Oooookay. I'm in a room of sociopaths, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:41 PM
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Thanks for answering, I was curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:39 PM
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I don't even like men. I'm just attracted to them. 🤣 I do like some men as friends, but this is still funny as hell to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:35 PM
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Why? What would that do? Looks =/= orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:05 PM
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I don't go around bashing women on FDS for being "pathetic losers". Right, because there's never been an FDS shooter. There aren't scores of women conspiring to find ways to make men legally forced to fuck people they find unattractive. They aren't casually discussing whether we should stop men from having the right to vote or work. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:58 PM
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I basically think most men are dangerous at worst and manipulative liars at best. So I just don't trust them and don't fuck them without a LOT of evidence that they're worth my time. Works pretty well, actually. Also I'm not interested in men that think a lack of self control and discernment is something to brag about. It's like how depressed people just can't ignore the dark realities of the world as well as the rest of us. I don't have blinders on with men and it protects me from a lot of risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 06:52 PM
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And before anyone leaps to the wrong conclusion, putting my needs first does not mean to the exclusion of all others, it means I look out for Numero Uno. Sure, putting your needs first isn't inherently bad. It's the part where you treat women like objects and play mindgames that's the fucked up part. I just hope they wise up and find happiness eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:51 AM
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Not my experience but OK. Blowjobs are a skill. Being able to not gag the entire time requires practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:32 AM
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Yeah and a lot of that could potentially be mitigated with exercise. Like example, maybe my quality span would be until 55 and then shit until 70, then I die. But with exercise and other healthy habits, maybe my quality of life span is 65 and I die at 75. That's a significant difference. Worth it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:30 AM
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🤣 where do you get this shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:28 AM
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Well true, my salary is a lot of why I'm not like "dismantle capitalism!!!" But I also think capitalism itself isn't the problem, it just needs regulation and more socialism than we currently have in the US. As for the so called sexual marketplace, I'm a True Romantic that is extremely disillusioned with men. So it doesn't actually benefit me, but there's no system that would. Men would need to be better people. Good ones exist, but they're far too rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:27 AM
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I mean, no doubt that's the better option. Not even a question. But I don't need a SAHD since I don't want to have kids. Kids are a ~trap~
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:23 AM
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I'm gonna be ✨ immortal ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:21 AM
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Then you are behaving immorally, obviously. If you watch child porn, it is illegal and immoral and contributes to the rape and exploitation of children. If you consume rape and trafficking porn, you contribute to the rape and trafficking of women. This is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:19 AM
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Both can be true. Men as a whole can hold sexist patterns without being straight up incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:17 AM
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Is racism also meaningless to you? Or is it only when women experience systemic discrimination that it suddenly becomes "meaningless" in your view
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:16 AM
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No incels are not harmless suicidally depressed young men. Incels are part of a dangerous mysoginist movement that guns down women for not fucking them. Would you expect racial minorities to cry for KKK members? Then don't expect women, the target of incels, to cry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:15 AM
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I mean, do what you want, but being sedentary will harm your health regardless of your natural physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:12 AM
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****Most, almost all, the vast majority, enough for this to be a common phenomenon. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:11 AM
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My guess is his personality retains a lot of his "ugly" days (low self esteem, mostly) and she's picking up on that. Also she might just suck as a person and be reading into nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:10 AM
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So negging, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:09 AM
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All women are attracted to men. They’re survival depends on it So you are saying lesbians don't exist? But gay men do? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:12 AM
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It may be unhealthy to your psyche but it’s not immoral Are you careful to only consume ethically made porn? Or do you indiscriminately consume pork that may have sex trafficking victims, minors, live rapes, etc in them? And yes, it also damages your brain and your dick. But that part is a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:10 AM
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So her actions at 16 don't represent her hypothetical "true self" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:08 AM
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It already is a worthwhile structure to maintain. Bitter incels are an extreme outlier minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:07 AM
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I gotta say, you never fucking miss. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:04 AM
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CRT is critical race theory. Which is the latest boogeyman for conservatives since hating vaccines and blaming the VENTILATORS for people dying isn't going so well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:58 AM
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more police and control, Conservatives like the police. Blue lives matter shit is all them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:55 AM
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50s "glory" days allowed for men to be degenerate. They generally hid it from polite society (the wives), but they still did it. See Don Draper for a t.v. example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:54 AM
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Sexism is quite traditional/conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:50 AM
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But I want them to take the burden from men while they do, Specifically what do you consider male burdens that should be offloaded to women? Are there any female burdens that you think men should take in exchange/in the interest of equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:48 AM
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Meanwhile the republicans got covid right, ... you cannot be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:30 AM
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Yeah but in the long run lack of exercise diminishes your quality of life much sooner. So you're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:22 AM
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Working out is good for your health. 30 mins a day!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:21 AM
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There's no excuse not to buy utensils for the kitchen This is the weirdest one. You can buy them online, one time. It's so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:21 AM
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No. And the idea that you're supposed to " graduate" from therapy before you're truly ready to date is silly. People generally don't graduate, it's like the gym. There's always work to do. At least that's my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:16 AM
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I will tell you I personally find guy 2 significantly more attractive than guy 1. But that's doesn't invalidate the feelings some people have for their uggo partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 01:08 AM
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That's interesting, but I think people have always responded to emotionally driven arguments. I don't think politicians have ever won over the masses with cold, hard facts and figures. Most people are honestly not intelligent or educated enough for that, let's get real. Our attention spans have likely decreased, which explains why 5 second soundbites are king. We also seem to be very oppositional (my team rules, your team drools) these days, but I'm not sure that's different than ye olden days e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:02 PM
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So in Danish culture women are more encouraged to bully men? Or what do you think makes this more of a thing in your culture? I mean as a group. A class of people that experience life treated as male by others and who identify as male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:54 PM
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Yeah, although I don't normally do video calls. Maybe that would be a good way to screen. Phone & text just doesn't give enough information. I put a lot of stock in things like smells and body language though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:42 PM
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Yeah he hasn't made an argument so far. He says feminists were mean to me and if you deny it, it's a no true Scotsman fallacy. Where's the documented evidence specifically of feminists being cruel to him for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:01 PM
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Ok, maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are you saying women respond to statistics and data driven conversations with personal anecdotes and feelings? Or what is your specific argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:10 PM
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You misread it. 3% of men are VICTIMS of rape, not perpetrators. "About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime." Re: 33%, source: https://archive.thinkprogress.org/1-in-3-college-men-in-survey-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-they-could-get-away-with-it-ffa7406b9778/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:08 PM
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You're right, I broadened the topic more than was necessary. I apologize. That said,, you claimed it was common in your culture. If you could answer the primary question of what culture that is, it would shed light on why this type of experience is common to you and completely foreign to me. No award needed as it wouldn't be appropriate. I think men as a social class are far more toxic than women, not that women don't contribute as well. This does not mean individual men are necessarily at fault…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:06 PM
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You're missing my point. My point is not "men do it too". My point is men start off the conversation with a hyperbolic emotional claim or with anecdotes. That opens up the conversation to either a simple instance that disproves the broad assumption or to a counter-anedcote, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 05:01 PM
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Interesting, can't provide this alleged culture. K. Have a nice day too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 04:59 PM
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His specific, documented examples are in the article? If yes I guess now is the time to read it rather than have you keep quoting. So far it has only been his emotionally charged rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:46 PM
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Depends on the man. I've known some men with self control and some without. Also depends on what messages they've internalizing about masculinity. If they think the highest possible number of women makes them more of a man, that informs their choices. Some men on here definitely have that mindset and are bewildered when some women find it unattractive. Anyway, none of us have enough context for his specific experiences to draw any real conclusions. I don't trust his framing of the situation as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:43 PM
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I don't know the context of where and how he was complaining about his loneliness and misery. Who are the people that told him he deserved to die? Why? That's an absurdly aggressive response to someone asking for help with depression, and no it isn't borne out of feminism. Him framing it that was is immediately suspicious and points to an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:40 PM
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Well maybe she just wants to harmlessly cheat too! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:37 PM
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OK, what's your culture then? Where is it that women are bullying men and men are all victims of women expecting them to be players in order to be a "real man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:35 PM
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Of course, but then they're pissed when she doesn't contribute the exact same amount financially and expect her to make up for it in chores and sex. They're basically talking out of both sides of their mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:33 PM
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Well idk where you get 3%, but about 33% admit they'd rape if they knew they'd get away with it. Given that their chances of getting away with it are basically 97%, I guess 1/3 of men are a potential rape waiting to happen. And that's not even getting into domestic violence or lesser "crimes" like cheating. Men are a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:32 PM
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You can observe this in real time by looking at posts by men about women, where most of the replies boil down to "Well I'm not like that", regardless of whatever the topic actually is. Because men are providing anecdotes to begin with. There's usually a lack of data on both sides, so women provide their anecdotes in response (me, mom, sisters, friends, etc). It's not "women are so emotional, men are so logical" it's men start with their own skewed emotionally driven experiences and those men ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:28 PM
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OK so you're not interested in a good faith discussion. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:08 AM
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Idk. Again, why would you not look for a job where your kids are? What job do you have that you CANNOT find it in the state your kids live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:08 AM
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I didn't mean you. I was talking broadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:06 AM
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Yeah I suppose. Idk why they'd care, clearly he isn't compatible with them. The only reason I'd be offended is if he says shit in a way meant to offend. And the only consequence of him being rude would be I don't associate with him. So it's pretty low stakes all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:06 AM
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Giving up on your kids is being a bad parent in mY view. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:13 AM
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Right, that's what I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:11 AM
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His virginity is his choice, if you read what he wrote. It doesn't mean anything about women. It isn't a judgment of women. Does that clear it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:10 AM
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This only works for people that don't have kids though. Idk what the solution is once kids enter the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:09 AM
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Nerd entitlement is a real thing, but certainly not all nerds. White people having privilege is a thing, but that doesn't mean every white person is some kind of Nazi monster, right? So it seems like this guy has a lot of self esteem issues and is then internalizing a broad criticism of sexism as a personal criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:08 AM
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OK, you're consistent, I'll give you that. I don't personally agree with that arrangement, even as someone who is likely to be the primary breadwinner in any relationship I'm in. I would want us both to have time to relax and be happy. We can cook and clean together, so that we can relax together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:04 AM
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Well, I'm not sure how you're "knowing" someone you haven't met in person before. I personally don't think that's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:02 AM
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Yeah depends on where you live. But I'm down. I think separate living spaces keeps it spicy. Plus never cleaning his bathroom goes a long way in keeping it sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:01 AM
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In this hypothetical scenario, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:59 AM
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Unless he has zero rights to his kids,she likely has to make an agreement with him or go before a judge to move the kids away. So every few years is pretty unlikely although I suppose it could happen. I don't have kids, but if someone had custody of my dog and moved, you bet I'd find a way to move too. It might take time to line up a job and living space, but that would be the plan. And that's just a dog, not my kids. So I find men that are okay with living in a different state than their kids s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:58 AM
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Fuck yeah, Hella rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:52 AM
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OK but if she doesn't want to clean his mansion for the privilege of living in it, and is willing to live within her means then what.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:48 AM
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Yes. And yet men here claim they don't care about women's jobs or income. Clearly there's a failure of logic happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:47 AM
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The thing is just because a job pays less doesn't make it easy. If he worked at McDonald's, he's going to be fucking exhausted when he gets home. But if his wife is making 3x as much at a cushy desk job, should she put her feet up and demand he get started on making them dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:45 AM
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Is he paying her for cleaning? Because he should be. And then when she mysteriously doesn't want to fuck him, gee I wonder what that's about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:42 AM
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Yeah good point, my dad is pretty good at cleaning but he would starve or eat only hot dogs for every meal if not for my mom... so clearly he wasn't contributing to cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:39 AM
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I definitely don't believe in not helping when someone (like a boyfriend) is cleaning. So I guess it's a politeness/ingrained thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:35 AM
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Yes, although I will point out the awareness of this imbalance does create avoidance (cold feet?) In some women. I, for one, was sure by the age of 15 that I'd never have kids because I didn't want to be a slave. I wanted to be dad not a mom, and that's even though I grew up with a dad that contributed a lot more than most (for chores etc). Since I can't be dad, I'm opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:34 AM
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Or no one does a chore in order to maximize kid time and they live in squalor with heart disease from only eating takeout. Love to see it. This is America.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:29 AM
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The two are not mutually exclusive. In fact it's less about "hey I want new dick" and it's more "I'd rather let my pussy grow cobwebs than deal with your bullshit anymore" which means new dick can be on the menu if it's worth the time and effort... but that's a big IF.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:27 AM
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Who wants to tell their mother or coworkers that they are bored with their man or have their eyes on other men. No big deal if that were the case, but in most cases it isn't the reason. Women usually decide to stop dating after they've experienced a marriage. Men are THAT bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:25 AM
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This is why not having kids is the best thing women can do for themselves. It's unfortunate that's the way it is, but kids are a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:19 AM
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It would basically be a huge conspiracy to enslave women Ding ding ding. You got it. Don't let the FBI find you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:15 AM
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I briefly scrolled through those just now and I'm surprised by how much better the male living spaces are. Fuck, let the men decorate the home if it's going to be like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:14 AM
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It only matters if you live together. Someone clean generally doesn't want to live in filth. It will lead to tension/resentment. Hence why separate homes would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:07 AM
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Only answer necessary. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:23 PM
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any possible role of feminist shaming culture I'm curious about what "feminist shaming culture" is and how it is related to TRP male experience. Do you have any thoughts on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:14 PM
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In the case of familicides, research shows they are almost exclusively committed by men in heterosexual family relationships. https://theconversation.com/why-do-men-kill-their-families-heres-what-the-research-says-132314
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:22 PM
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So is it just about sex which is good because a biological imperative is the highest good or isn't it. Pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:17 PM
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Are you referring to a different thread where the person I responded to said choose better? THIS thread is about the actual child support statistics. Not the made up numbers bitter men like to throw around. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:35 PM
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By other men. Incels are one thing, but in actual real life most women don't care about you enough to mock your virginity and I've never heard a woman say "man up" in my life. That's bro culture
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:33 PM
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You're ignoring all research that doesn't fit your narrative. So you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:31 PM
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Hmm. To me its a mid to late 20s thing. That end-of millennial generation/maybe beginning of gen Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:30 PM
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Kissing? There's no amount of texting or online chat that is equivalent to in person time. Kissing doesn't have to be a first date or even 3rd date activity. It's when you're both comfortable and interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:29 PM
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Get a job and move too. Do you prioritize your kids or not? Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:26 PM
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Literally anyone with a pussy/uterus would do. So if women's requirements for men are simply a warm dick and plenty of sperm and we don't give a fuck about who you are or what you love, that's a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:16 PM
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So would be leave her for cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:14 PM
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Yeah likely from males larping as scorned women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:31 PM
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The chart posted on here like last week had more women than men (under 35) experiencing sexlessness actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:30 PM
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A man being an abuser doesn't impact a woman's choice, because that is hidden information. Men choosing to be promiscuous is their choice. There have always been promiscuous women (world's oldest profession for example). Men have never been known for their virtue, so really nothing has changed in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:24 PM
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Bodily autonomy is not equal to "financial autonomy" nor should it be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:58 PM
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