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The less horny you are the easier it becomes to come across as confident and not desperate when you meet girls. So I'd totally recommend having sex for hours with a 6 or a 7 before meeting hotter girls. Girl can smell when you've been without sex for a while.
/r/seduction06/07/24 10:00 PM
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Happens all the time. Women say shit just to convince themselves they're not sluts, until they are. Classic example out of so many: second date, asking a girl if she wants to come over to my place after dinner and a walk. She says: I won't be able to stay long. Next thing you know we're having sex and she's still there for breakfast the next day. That's one of the reasons the whole concept of asking for explicit consent makes zero sense. Women want until you ask them to say it explicitly.
/r/seduction06/07/24 09:47 PM
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There's a good reason that this is called a 'unicorn'. In the polyamory community it's known to be very hard to find women who are happy to be the third wheel for a couple. I think this is because most women hookup with some hope that it will end up in a relationship. Which is why they'd rather hookup with a player who they might turn around, than with a guy who's in a serious enough relationship that his partner is confident to let a third in.
/r/seduction25/10/22 03:40 PM
5

Sexual revolution or not, most women still hate telling their gf about the fact they shagged a guy but they're not so much into him. So, as long as they haven't slept with you, you're just a date, and a potential friendzone candidate. Once you've had sex, you become an extra guy they slept with, and they are way more likely to try and make it work than they would have otherwise.
/r/seduction19/09/22 12:01 PM
2

And most likely all 3 of them gave likes in return
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:22 PM
1

The only answer to a shit test is to not feed the insecurity or ambivalence. I've never had women ask me these types of questions, but if one did, I'd just tell her: "you know what forget it, I don't think this is going to work".
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:52 PM
1

This is one of the best answers. It's not reasonable for a woman to ask such a question. It's like a guy asking: you're not going to lie and report I raped you, right? Coz that's honestly 10x more likely to happen than murder.
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:51 PM
1

What they're trying to say is that fearing people because of their sex or their race is f'ing rude.
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:49 PM
1

Men judge women mostly on looks. So if you see a pretty women you'll be attracted. If she is surrounded by 5 guys, it creates more competition, so you're *less* likely to want to approach her. You don't need these 5 guys to find out if she's pretty or not. Women judge men mostly on status / character. These are not simple to assess just looking at a guy. So if a guy is surrounded by 5 women, it may create more competition, but at the same time it's more likely that he's of high value (good statu…
/r/seduction26/07/22 05:01 PM
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Which precisely shows that it's the mature thing to do.
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:12 PM
4

Make his dick hard not his life. So he'll make your pussy wet, not your eyes
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:36 PM
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I am just pushing the reasoning to the extreme. Of course they can't sleep with all girls. But if each top 10% guy sleeps with 10 girls, setting aside the overlap, they'll get close to sleeping with all girls when put together.
/r/seduction19/07/22 11:13 AM
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Could be, but if you assume that everybody finally ends up in a relationship, then if there are 8 girls with 4s that means there are some girls ending up with guys above their league.
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:13 AM
8

Well think about it, a top 10% guy could potentially sleep with all girls, leaving nothing for the rest. But a top 10% guy can only be in a serious relationship with one woman - so he's bound to end up with a top 10% woman, And so forth for other groups.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:36 AM
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You need to get her lying down making out with you on a sofa for instance. Then you stick your thigh between her legs and get her crotch to press against your thigh. Run your hand in her back to push her closer to you. If she doesn't warm up and loses her mind when doing that, then she's probably not really into sex, or very inexperienced - and I don't know what amount of discussing about it is going to help at all.
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:33 AM
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To be fair, I prefer to be a winner who appears like a loser, than the opposite. Anyhow, he'll come round in 15 years time.
/r/seduction17/07/22 12:17 PM
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I can approach girls of course. I do it all the time. I simply don't set myself up for rejection. I can read body language and assess if there's any potential. And if there isn't it's either because the girls not interested, or because she's playing hard to get. In either case, especially the latter, that's not the kind of girl I want to chase.
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:41 AM
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Btw I didn't say there's anything worth with making compliments, if they don't involve rejection. I will often tell a woman she's charming or things like that. I just don't set myself up for explicitly asking her out unless it's clear she's interested. If I compliment her and she doesn't send clear signals she's interested, I walk away, letting her regret she was not more proactive, and having her doubt that my compliment was anything more than just a way of being nice. That way I am not validat…
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:12 AM
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If it makes you feel better, go for it. Just saying that the whole philosophy of 'its a numbers game's is dumb. Everytime you face rejection you just confirm your view of the world that women are some kind of a prize and that you're lucky for even be allowed to participate to the competition. I am not a PUA or genetically blessed, but I grew old enough to not be desperate about pussy anymore and that's what makes me attractive. And maybe your super hot friend is in his 20s. But I can tell you, w…
/r/seduction17/07/22 11:09 AM
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You are so desperate for pussy that even when you just get a woman to talk to you to tell you she doesn't want you, you convince yourself that this is something that's positive. But everytime you get rejected it just confirms you are not really desirable for these women. The real victory is to have women look at you, even approach you and start making innuendos. To the point that you know before even asking them out that they are anxious for you to do so, and will say yes in a heartbeat if you d…
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:44 AM
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ok mommy, I wanna ask you permission to go out Saturday evening >> Sure, who are you going out with? so there's this girl I met online, I think we'd click but I wanted to confirm with you first before asking her out. And then you tell her: so what time are you free on Saturday?
/r/seduction17/07/22 10:38 AM
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Which is precisely you should usually not believe what a woman says, they tend to not really know exactly what they want.
/r/seduction16/07/22 04:52 PM
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When it comes to long term relationship, people have to mostly date people their level, because there are roughly as many men as women, so they pair one by one. If all the 7 women get 8 guys, then who do 8 women get? You see the conclusion here, right? This is of course true for long term relationships. But for hookups, nothing prevents all women, the 7s, 6s, down to the 3s to hookup with 8s/9s/10s, which leaves all the other guys to hook up with the 2s and below.
/r/seduction12/07/22 07:38 PM
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People all want the best, but if you start going out of your league, the issue is that you risk getting the best person, but not in the right relationship (i.e. a 7 woman will hookup with a 9 guy instead of having a real relationship with a 7 guy).
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:57 PM
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In my experience, women are more attracted to a guy who's got 10 matches he's talking with all the time, than one who's decided he's going to focus on one.
/r/seduction12/07/22 06:54 PM
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Abundance doesn't work that way for women. Just because she has options doesn't mean all, or even most, are viable. Men rely mostly on physical attraction to guide them to find partners, while women value personality / status. That's why women take more time to assess partners, but it also is why they might not jump ship that easily, because they're not sure what's on the other side. Incidentally, the reason why women are more attracted by men already in a relationship is precisely because that …
/r/seduction12/07/22 03:08 PM
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Playing a musical instrument is a very useful skill for sure. Ideally a portable one like a guitar, because you're not always going to find a piano when you travel. The reason is not just that people are impressed by someone playing am instrument, but also because music gives an excuse for people to look at you and start talking to you. No woman will approach you to start chatting, unless you're irresistibly handsome - even in if they would like to. But if you play an instrument, they will feel …
/r/seduction06/07/22 09:46 PM
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Mostly to be protected, provided for, and the status of being in a committed relationship
/r/seduction18/06/22 06:55 PM
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And here feminism goes out the window...
/r/seduction26/05/22 02:26 PM
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This is nonsense. A girl knocking at your door asking to have sex is consenting.
/r/seduction26/05/22 02:25 PM
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"It's the same size as from your lips to the back of your throat"
/r/seduction26/01/22 06:06 PM
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They’re not meeting up to figure out how to make each other orgasm. They’re meeting to experience basic sex first . Ya know? Like regular people? Well if your view of first time sex is that it doesn't matter if the girl has an orgasm (when it's pretty sure the guy will get one), I think we're not going to agree on anything. And what I am saying is precisely not to 'meet for the first time for sex and bring a sex toy'. They need to explore each other without having intercourse, which takes a few …
/r/seduction23/01/22 10:57 PM
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omg, you're pathetic. First you omitted the 'a lot of' when referring to women. Now - if you think you've been giving orgasms to women through intercourse, you're very naive. According to this study, 38% of women rarely have orgasms through intercourse. Even if that were not the case, it's clear that women have a much more subtle way of achieving orgasm, and depend / require foreplay in various forms much more than men do. I'd be curious what *your* experience of sex is, and what kind of advice …
/r/seduction23/01/22 10:44 PM
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You realize that a lot of women never achieve orgasm through intercourse, while most of them can when using sex toys, right? Chances are that sex isn't going to do much to the girl, especially if her partner is himself not experienced, and that can last for decades. I've seen first hand, on several occasions, how some women had sex for years without really being into it, until they discovered what it is in their 30s.
/r/seduction23/01/22 10:23 PM
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If she's fine holding your hands then either she wants you to kiss her, or she's a total weirdo. So I'd say go for it.
/r/seduction23/01/22 09:15 PM
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Probably not, but I've met women that I could not get to climax with just my fingers or mouth, and if I was inexperienced, I would probably not have been able to make them come through intercourse either.
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:46 PM
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Rule #1 - do not have intercourse before having managed to make the girl come in other ways (potentially even with sex toys). More specifically - you should have at least a couple of sessions of naked make out where there is no penetration, so that you can each find out what the other person likes. For the guy it will help him to get used to the excitement so that when they have intercourse the guy is able to control himself (i.e. be patient, and not ejaculate after 30 seconds). For the girl it …
/r/seduction23/01/22 06:06 PM
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You should ALWAYS be as familiar as possible with everything within a four hour radius of your home base. Not sure how this works if you live in a big city... Knowing everything that's within 10 minutes by car is literally impossible.
/r/seduction07/01/22 07:04 PM
2

I remember using Trojan NaturalLamb, they were not too bad, however they will only prevent pregnancy, they are not protecting against STDs.
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:55 PM
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"Can anyone recommend condoms that don't suck? " Condoms don't suck, you need a partner who will do that for you, or do it yourself if you're flexible enough!
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:51 PM
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If she doesnt give u a time amd place then shes an attention whore you been feeding free attention to. Spot on. I hate it when you're already given out signals, and you tried to do it in a subtle way, so as to save face if it doesn't work, and the girl, instead of giving you signals on her end, will ask something like 'do you have a crush on me?' to really be 100% sure that you're interested. It's really a super-cowardly move from her, she usually does it because she's so mortified to be rejecte…
/r/seduction06/01/22 04:04 PM
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"I wouldn't call it a crush at this stage, but I find you and your IG stories interesting. Why don't we try to get to know each other better? Let's meet up. What's your schedule for this week?" No point saying anything more than that, but if you keep beating around the bush you'll never get anything.
/r/seduction06/01/22 02:59 PM
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The good thing is that you realize you put yourself in the friend zone, it was not her. And I think the main reason is that you don't want to own your feelings. The best example is when she stripped down. That's the best moment to show how you're leaning. Obviously easier said than done, especially given that it must have take you by surprise when she did. But what you should have done is to make some remark that indicates that you like what you're seeing. What's important is to give clues as to…
/r/seduction06/01/22 01:08 PM
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On the contrary he insists he realizes how deep the friend zone is given that she stripped off. And he made it worse by looking away.
/r/seduction06/01/22 12:58 PM
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It's all very symmetric: - a nice guy will give a relationship without asking for sex in return (even though he'd prefer getting sex than a relationship) - a 'slut' will give sex without asking for a relationship in return (even though she'd prefer getting a relationship than sex).
/r/seduction06/01/22 02:25 AM
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I think the number one variable for a girl to get someone who will marry them, is to start looking the earliest possible. Time really plays against women on that front, and past 25, her desirability as a future wife keeps slowly declining until 30, then starts nosediving after. Once a girl has decided she needs to find a husband, what it requires is to be very discriminate on who she dates, to make sure relationships go forward instead of just plateauing. This means not being afraid of breaking …
/r/seduction06/01/22 02:23 AM
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Yeah, that's so much wishful thinking. It's like a guy giving tips to a girl: "Hey if you really want to seduce a guy, just whisper in his ears that you want to fuck him in the bathroom".
/r/seduction27/12/21 02:29 AM
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Yeah it's super annoying, and it's really when you see how easy good dates are that you realize that there's no point making big efforts, because it usually will not make a difference. When you are with someone mature, who values building connections and is willing to give a chance to connect with you, you realize you've wasted so much time on people who are worth nothing and who will most likely never be in successful relationships.
/r/seduction26/12/21 06:12 PM
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I am surprised. To me the issue seems to be getting matches, but with those I have matches with, a decent fraction will usually accept dates. My trick (that I refined over time) is - after minimal smalltalk (based on the usually very shallow profiles), I talk about meeting up - if they are unable to say yes to meet on a given date (I always ask 'what's your schedule like this week?') then I tell them 'ok, get back to me then when you're available'. This prevents me from having to chase them over…
/r/seduction26/12/21 02:27 PM
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but why? Does she not know that she should do that?
/r/seduction26/12/21 01:57 PM
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DO NOT CONTACT HER! Honestly, if you were standing up someone twice (even if it's for a totally legit reason), and you wanted to see them, would you expect THEM to get back to you to reschedule? No, you wouldn't. Every time you chase someone like this who does zero efforts to meet up, you're just eroding one more bit of remaining self-esteem that you have. Read this article from Mark Manson, explains it better than I could.
/r/seduction26/12/21 01:56 PM
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Well it makes sense in that it's rare that women would volunteer talking about having sex if it's not been offered to them. So if they do mention it it means it's in their mind already
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:08 AM
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It's a woman who taught me that. Makes so much sense once you think about it.
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:22 AM
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Seems like a good plan - not always easy though to offer sitting side by side, which is why I try when possible to sit on a couch on a corner, so we're kind of side by side without it looking too weird.
/r/seduction17/12/21 04:08 PM
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I think you are right!
/r/seduction16/12/21 09:22 PM
1

I used that approach in the past and also meant it, but that just slows down things. Nowadays I just make the girl face her own choices. Often girls want things to happen but they don't want to admit that they have any responsibility in it happening. By forcing her to face the consequences of saying no, you make it more likely that she will say yes when she wants to say yes.
/r/seduction13/12/21 09:10 PM
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A technique I discovered recently (being 46y old) is to just take the shit test literally. If you invite her to your place and she says "I am not sure I should", you just tell her that if she's not sure then she shouldn't, and you show her the way home. If she was bluffing then that's the moment when she's going to say "no, it's ok, I'll come to your place".
/r/seduction13/12/21 02:44 PM
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I don't think many people will agree. I've had a whole range of situations, from girls being ok to kiss but squeamish if you started putting your hands between their legs (that happened when I was dating 20y old girls who had had very few partners). Or girls who were fine even doing oral and being naked, but not wanting intercourse because they wanted to wait, or to do std tests. One girl was not comfortable w the fact I was not fully divorced, we even went on a ski trip sharing the same bed for…
/r/seduction13/12/21 02:42 PM
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“I don’t have sex with guys I just met” Your chances of fucking her before she says "I don't have sex with guys I just met": 25% Your chances of fucking her after she says "I don't have sex with guys I just met": 90%
/r/seduction13/12/21 12:47 PM
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Many people explained in essence how to get to kiss her (cuddle on the sofa, play with her hands, etc...). So I'll explain how to go from kissing to being naked: the trick is for you to be able to do foreplay (i.e. make her horny) without it being too obvious. The best way to achieve that is to lie face to face with her, then put your thigh/knee in-between her legs. You don't have to go straight to your thigh touching her pussy, but that's the goal (and you'll just transition there by tiny movem…
/r/seduction13/12/21 12:46 PM
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and the smell doesn't bother her?
/r/seduction13/12/21 12:35 PM
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Totally. If that had happened earlier in my life she would have tormented me but by then I immediately recognized the abuse. What's insane is that she said that I am abusive for breaking up.
/r/seduction12/12/21 06:34 PM
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Sleeping w a woman is not the silver bullet to getting a LTR, but in a big city where people are using OLD, it's very easy to lose a girl's attention, and sleeping with her tend to be a way to keep it just a bit longer.
/r/seduction12/12/21 05:53 PM
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I don't think it's worth brushing off sex to achieve that. I am usually not in a rush to have sex with girls, but one thing I must admit drives me to have sex asap is that once you've had sex, the girl is just less likely to disappear on you. So when you meet a girl you really like, but who's playing games, the easiest way to have her stop that, is to have sex. The reason is that most girls still don't like increasing their body counts indiscriminately. So before they slept with you they might h…
/r/seduction12/12/21 03:20 PM
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One of my recent discoveries (and I am 46y old!) is very simple: when girls start saying they won't do this or that, instead of trying to sugarcoat things in order to convince them, just take them very literally. So if she says: "I don't want to go to your place, I am not ready to have sex", instead of saying: "Oh no, you can come, it's not for sex", you just say: "OK, I understand, let's not go then", and then you bring her back to her subway station to send her on her way (instead, of course, …
/r/seduction11/12/21 03:35 AM
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There is clearly a cultural gap. I grew up in Europe, and I've had countless people come to my place, guys, girls, younger, older people, and there was absolutely no correlation whatsoever w them sleeping with me. While in the american big city I live in, it seems like people understand "do you want to come to my place" as "do you want to have sex with me".
/r/seduction10/12/21 10:58 PM
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Makes no sense to me It's proof that women are not ready for gender equality. They're just unable to say: "hell, yeah, I want to go to your place to be alone with you in the dark". A female friend of mine told me that if your odds of sleeping with a girl are, say, 25%, the moment she says: "I am not going to your place tonight", they jump to 90%.
/r/seduction10/12/21 10:30 PM
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The success rate would be 0%. I've often had women who clearly wanted to sleep with me, and when I asked them if they'd come to my place they'd say: "sure, but only for 10 minutes" - when obviously the next morning they were still in my bed. If I'd asked them: "do you want to come to my place to have sex?", it's most likely that 90% of them would have said no. And that is within a population of women who turned out to be willing to have sex with me. So if you ask a rando anything involving sex, …
/r/seduction10/12/21 01:18 PM
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It's important for you to be somewhat on the same wavelength as the girl you're meeting. If she's excited, then it's fine to be excited. But the last thing you want is for one of you to be barely interested, and the other one drooling. When there's too much of a gap between the 2, it's a bit of a turnoff. It's similar to when one person is sober, and the other is drunk - the sober one will struggle to be contaminated by the drunk one. Bottom-line: observe how excited the girl is, and stay within…
/r/seduction03/12/21 01:01 PM
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Just add a thumbs up if it's the end of the conversation, that's fine. If the girls expect you to write more back and initiate a new conversation they can just do it themselves.
/r/seduction01/12/21 09:11 PM
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He has 2 more reasons than you to not to try anything, namely: - losing his license for hitting on a patient - getting metoo'd because he was misreading the situation You have no reason not to initiate, yet you don't - why blame him for not doing it?
/r/seduction25/11/21 01:14 PM
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Internet tends to lead towards 'winner takes it all'. You can clearly see that with Amazon having grown to the point of having virtually no competition, same for Youtube, Reddit, etc... So in OLD the equivalent is that the top 10% of guys will end up matching with 80% of women (instead of the top 10 with the top 10, etc...). This will give some women the impression that they are much hotter than in real life, because in real life a guy like that would never approach them. But in OLD it's so chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:11 PM
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What you say mostly applies in OLD. It gives the impression that women think of themselves as queens and treat guys like shit. Go out in the real world and you'll see that women want to meet men as much as men want to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:51 PM
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I've lived in London for many years, and $80k/y is considered as a pittance there. I was living on much more than that, and even the most unqualified assistant where I was living was making at least that. Anyhow, the whole discussion on childcare only applies when kids are small. Once they go to school full time, i.e. around 4 or 5, there's close to nothing that prevents a woman to take at least a half-time job, without incurring any child care costs. Your point about the fact that men gain so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:39 PM
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Even if that were remotely true, it would only apply when the children are small. When I was living in an expensive neighborhood of London, daycare was around $15k per year. The median salary of a white-collar worker was well in the $80k.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:04 PM
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It's not his salary that determines whether daycare is worth it, it's hers. For any conceivable white-collar job, the salary is much higher than that of daycare, especially once the kids are over 5y old.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:00 PM
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Well then she can just decide to get a job instead of lazying around at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 06:12 PM
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he’s not scared to live alone, or bring random women home Not true. I brought randos home, including some with whom I had common acquaintances, and they were very dangerous. It's a different kind of danger than the ones women face, but it's in no way less of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:31 PM
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If the woman is a wife and mother, the man gets everything and the woman gets nothing in comparison. If she is a SAHM she gets to not have to work while he worries every day if he is going to be able to provide for the family. That's 'nothing', you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:20 PM
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Could be, but if women are being picky because of that, society should do a better job of calling them out, which you never hear. While when men are picky, for instance, by refusing to commit, then they're getting considered to be incapable of being adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 11:04 PM
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The issue is that young women are often encouraged by society to make sex something much more precious than it really is, and encourages women to be very picky about their partners and who to settle with. That is what ends up resulting in a lot of 30-something looking back and realizing they should have settled earlier. I see it all the time when I am dating women that age, and it is heartbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:16 PM
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Not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:08 PM
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I am not saying that men should pursue young women their entire life. What I am saying is that, when men are young, they pursue young women, who hold a lot of power. Once these men mature, the power dissipates, while men's power doesn't, or even increases. This makes them want to take revenge on the situation. It's only human.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:08 PM
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These revenge fantasies are a result of an understandable frustration about the fact that, when women are young, they hold a tremendous power over men and are not being called out about it by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:48 PM
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I think that being redpilled is mostly coming to the realization that there are unreconciliable contradictions between what society tells us women want and what they really want. Many women themselves are aware of the situations and admit it, but many women aren't, and that is what causes redpilled men to be angry at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 07:45 PM
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If you think of women as holes that will open up when you have put in enough seduction points, only then your convoluted thinking makes sense. You're the one saying it. When I was a teenager I'd mostly hang out with girls because I didn't like playing sports with the boys. I've had 3 girlfriends one after the other in my college years, each lasting more than a year. Right after that I got married and stayed like this for over 20 years. Ever since my separation I have been successfully dating wom…
/r/seduction19/06/21 05:14 PM
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I couldn't be further away from an incel, but I've observed how female friends of mine would call someone a creep for something that has absolutely nothing to do with their behavior, but everything to do with whether they are attractive or not. Because of that, way too many guys fear being 'creeps' for just doing something completely ok, like the OP did. Spreading that 'he's a creep' mentality poisons the relationship between men and women. If you're in favor of this - sad for you.
/r/seduction19/06/21 12:40 PM
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OK so this looks like a copy paste from my experience: How do I tell my recent gf to talk less I've (46M) now been dating that girl (40F) for over 2 months, and as much as I like a lot of things about her, it seems like her talking too much is really getting on my nerves. First, the obvious fact that it is annoying that sometimes I just want quiet, and she'll tell me about something totally unrelated to the situation or anything really. And she doesn't talk a lot, she talks fast, so it's quite h…
/r/seduction19/06/21 12:07 AM
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The word 'creepy' was invented by women who have a much too high opinion of themselves and, instead of being grateful for getting some male attention, will berate any man who approaches them. Unless the man in question is an 8, 9 or 10.
/r/seduction18/06/21 11:20 PM
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And I think you missed the humor part.
/r/seduction18/06/21 11:13 PM
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He's probably alluding to the fact that this would be considered sexual assault. If you ever meet someone who'd report you to the police for doing that, you better stay away of them forever anyway...
/r/seduction18/06/21 09:48 PM
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Hm... so you didn't grasp the fact that he did win? Reminds me of that joke where you tell a girl you bet that you can touch her boobs without touching her t-shirt. She says: "Sure, go ahead". You approach your hand and touch her boob over the t-shirt. Then you say: "Ok, I lost the bet!".
/r/seduction18/06/21 02:10 AM
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You dont tell her you want to have sex with her. You meet her live, find a place where you can have some intimacy, such as a park, or your place, or car. Then you make out, and if you feel she's horny like you, then you can start talking about having sex.
/r/seduction06/06/21 07:03 PM
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I've fucked great women, have been married for a long time and happen to have 3 kids. Not sure how that matters though. Women do like sex, for them it is much more tied to be connecting with the person. Unlike what you seem to imply (and society as a whole), there is nothing moral or immoral about the way men vs women need sex. We just have different biologies and that's the way it is. In particular, a guy can really genuinely want a relationship with a given girl, but be so sex starved that he …
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:40 PM
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I don't see how contraception is relevant here. Men used not to fuck any girl because they might impregnate them, but that doesnt take away the fact they would have wanted to. And these days, they can. And it's not all men, it's most men. If you disagree with me, then you disagree with pretty much every study on Male vs female sexuality out there. Doesnt make you a saint, just makes you wrong.
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:14 PM
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That's not how men work. They may or may not want a connection, but they will want sex regardless. That does not make them any less genuine.
/r/seduction05/06/21 08:24 PM
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I can see how that could work, but in my case I would not want to go without sex for six months. What screws guys when they meet someone who's really unique, is that, at the same time, they can be thirsty for sex and that causes them to not be at their best. The trick is just to see enough girls, some of which you have sex with, so that, when you meet one you really like, you're absolutely not in a rush to have sex with her, you're comfortable being patient.
/r/seduction05/06/21 06:56 PM
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So what's the difference between 'consideration' and 'being talked to'? Isn't it the same?
/r/seduction04/06/21 09:56 PM
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You don't get it. But if you have 10 decent men and 10 decent women, and instead of just pairing up, the women all focus on the top 2 men and ignore the others, then they're going to be frustrated, and so are the bottom 8 men. And with your logic, nobody's owed anything. Women aren't owed respect, consideration, empathy, support. Hopefully our society's better than that cold world you have in mind.
/r/seduction04/06/21 07:58 PM
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Taking responsibility is always good - sure. But it is established in multiple studies that women have unreasonable expectations w.r.t. what would be a suitable partner. Men have much simpler requirements and needs. All they want is someone who tolerates them. See in particular Settling for Mr. Good Enough This result in these women often ending up miserable, or, at least, not achieving some of their main goals (i.e. having a family before the biological clock ends ticking). But men are collater…
/r/seduction04/06/21 05:07 PM
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So what part exactly is disgusting? Do you think I should wine & dine a woman who's just hanging out with me to get free meals but has no interest in me romantically? Would it be disgusting to refuse to do that, and instead focus on women who are really interested in me and able to demonstrate it?
/r/seduction04/06/21 04:40 PM
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Yeah, I find his articles interesting. Many people (guys in particular) try to please to as many people as possible. In order to achieve that, they compromise on what they really want, and, eventually, it comes biting them back because they don't get what they need. Instead of trying to please to 8 girls out of 10 and end up with a relationship I don't like, I may as well please 1 out of 10 and get a relationship that I do like. Mark Manson also emphasizes that you should never put the other per…
/r/seduction04/06/21 04:03 PM
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Not at all. In college I dated 3 girls in a row, each for more than a year. Then, the one that followed became my wife. I am the opposite of a PUA. Sex is not the end goal of the relationship, but insofar as it is the best indicator of how interested a girl is, it's key to keep an eye on it. All my friends want LTR but they also figured that getting strung along for weeks dating a girl who will not sleep with them *never* pays off.
/r/seduction04/06/21 03:52 PM
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I have a lot of respect for women. But not for those who waste my time. Not sure what's wrong with that?
/r/seduction04/06/21 03:48 PM
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Good post, you're raising a couple of interesting points / questions. I'd say the following 1) it is absolutely essential for guys to get to sex as quickly as possible. Or at least to serious makeout - even in the streets. The reason is not that we men can't wait. I could wait 3 months for that (and have waited longer in fact in the past). It's just that in OLD we are massively disadvantaged. We are competing for women's attention with dozens of other guys, many of which aren't interested in any…
/r/seduction04/06/21 03:23 PM
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Doesn't seem like she lost her interest, she does have a good reason to be busy, and even points it out. I'd say, take it easy, see if you can see her, but keep your options open by seeing other people, otherwise you'll obsess about whether that girl in particular will be available or not.
/r/seduction04/06/21 12:46 PM
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If you say you're looking only for sex, she will say no, even if she wants the same thing . How many time have I had: - want to come over to my place? > yeah, but I won't stay long ... 10 minutes later we're both naked and she's still there the next morning You need to go through this at least once in your life to realize how 99% of what women pretend they want is BS.
/r/seduction31/05/21 02:31 PM
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One can say anything about men/women, but it seems to me like women reward bad behavior much more than men do.
/r/seduction30/05/21 11:03 PM
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Not so long ago a girl I was dating said that I come across as 'trying too hard'. We had been seeing each other mostly once a week for several weeks. The only thing was that I wanted to see her more than once a week. My main mistake was that I did not see other girls on the side because I wanted to focus on one relationship. Clearly that girl would have preferred a guy who's seeing 3 girls at the same time, and would not want to see her more than once a week. No big surprise that this girl's 47,…
/r/seduction30/05/21 08:17 PM
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“hey come over and let me do things for you and allow me to attempt to show off value by showing you what I can do and things I have in return for sex later” And what's sad is that the more you need to 'show value' the more you come across as someone who doesn't have value. What's deplorable is that when you have a girlfriend, you become 100x more attractive in the eyes of other women. From women's perspective it's totally self-destructive, but, hey, I don't make the rules.
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:12 PM
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That's yet another double standard. A guy can be doing tons of stuff, make it super clear he's into a girl, and yet the girl will still pretend like it's not clear enough. Will girls themselves will give nearly imperceptible signals, mostly in the hope of keep plausible deniability, and then they will be disappointed that guys didn't read in their minds.
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:10 PM
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Totally agree. This post is trying to say what all women state they want, even though experience shows that guys who do all that don't get laid. I am far from being 'low-effort'. When a girl comes over I treat her well and make sure she feels at home. But if I have to bend over backwards to 'deserve' getting sex from her, she's not the right one. I've had girls that I've had to make so many efforts for, wined and diner her, gifts, all kinds of attentions, and that led to nothing. Then others who…
/r/seduction30/05/21 07:06 PM
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Of course it should not matter. The point I am trying to make is that it is not possible to determine what is acceptable and what is not, because it depends entirely on the subjective appreciation of the person you are approaching. This is a sign the system is broken.
/r/seduction27/05/21 06:25 PM
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Disagree with me? Care to elaborate what part you think is wrong?
/r/seduction27/05/21 02:00 PM
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If you're a hot guy you can approach anywhere, even in an underground parking lot at 2am. If you're not in the top 5% then god help you. You'll most likely be called a creep no matter how politely you approach the girl in question.
/r/seduction27/05/21 01:19 PM
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And so you've never been on a beach and saw a super hot guys and thought it would be great if he came over to chat?
/r/seduction27/05/21 01:17 PM
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I'd say, don't do anything that doesn't come to you naturally - or that doesn't come from the presence of the girl in question. The whole 'guy should keep things engaging' is really a stupid idea. Some girls will make me super entertaining, just by the way to laugh / flirt (that's called chemistry) - in which case, I am all in for entertaining. But if a girl thinks the guy should be an entertainer without her putting anything in, why would I need her? If you have to try hard, just stop trying.
/r/seduction07/05/21 02:31 PM
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