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Id adjust it to "there is no place to meet women that cant be used to (publically) shame the man" It doesnt matter how well suited it is for the purpose, there is always going to be some way to throw hate on men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:58 PM
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Liberal poltician here in Norway on Twitter: "why bother women irl, when there are so many apps?" Male sexuality being seen as so bad that it should be pushed away to the perceived safety of the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:57 PM
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Being a man and not top 25% in looks and online presence savvy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:02 PM
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The west have a toxic debate climate around maskulinity. It can always be used to point out how men, generally, are somehow flawed. It can always be bent to point out that "real mascuminity is doing the thing that I want". It can always be belittled, in order to prove that something is unisex or feminine. In that climate, we cannot talk about masculinity in a sane and healthy way. We make it out to be an impossible feat of strength, that you absolutely should achieve (or be a defective male, des…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:59 PM
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This is more about the way that the trauma is advertised than the trauma itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:11 PM
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We banned au pairs here in Norway recently. Good decision, they were basically abused as free labor by the rich, to keep from taking choices in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:10 PM
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A dead bedroom can mean so many things, and relationships have so many different phases and times, that it is impossible to quantify. My partner should be involved in my sexuality, and should be positive towards it. I had a ltr where we both (mainly her) had dry spells. We still talked each other off, showed off assets, validated each other. When things work ? For a long time? Being cut off from being a sexual being with my partner? For a pretty short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:51 AM
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I have reread a number of times while writing. When trying to break out quotes I have probably retyped the entire paragraph a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:52 AM
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Title should be enough, the rest is superfluous really. "Emotionally unsatisfied" is a bullshit excuse, that would not fly if it came from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:45 AM
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No I did not. The comment rephrases what I was saying, and injects it with the sentiment that made it necessary to say it in the first place. I tried breaking it down by quotes, but she just manages to cram so many of them into the same paragraph. She downplays the issue itself between weasel words. She only acknowledges the issue as a way to follow up with a "but". She drags up the "women also have issues" as a rhetoric way to reflect. She says that men should "just" get good, and get over it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:26 AM
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Did thay sound "average" to you? Sure sounded way over for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:28 AM
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You have a very set order of events for what you call nice guys, that conveniently makes a situation where the women has no way to make an effort somehow. But sure, in those specific times you have little agency. Besides, why keep throwing bad names at him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:21 AM
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Yeahyeah, they just have to learn that anything negative is made up for by their priviledge, and that they should just feel good about it really. From people who dislike them. Real compassion for your countrymen there. I agree, that is the healthiest outcome. It seems like the same pain that pushes some into the bad outcome, is something you want them to be subjected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:17 AM
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If you have no good will toward him, "nobody likes a coward", then why are you friends? He can be a good friend with you, and still dislike his lot in society. I dont say "have sex with him" but I do say "help him work through his issues with women, with empathy".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:05 AM
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Male sexuality is after all nasty and evil. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:01 AM
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We shame him so badly for "that one thing". If he is sexual, he is somehow a monster pig. That is so nasty. Like people genuinely believe that male desire should be cage up to the dating apps, and confined there, and barely allowed to exist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:59 AM
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As others here post: they do, but the age bracket is a bit higher than for women. But not as high as some men like to believe. Those "other things" absolutely matter for hook-ups, status is still sexy. But as the age gap broadens, less so. Same for looks in older man younger woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:55 AM
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It shows in actions. A lot of "confidence" is just experience in the game. Women talk to each other, and most dating pools arent that deep. Usually people know people who know people and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:50 AM
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Does it matter if his ulterior motive is platonic or not? He is making you uncomfortable, trambling your obvious boundaries. Tell him that. Perhaps talk with him about it, if you want to help him. To me he sounds desperate for intimacy, of one sort or the other. He wont get it from you, but working through why he aint getting it elsewhere might help him along. Why is it so important whether or not something is sexual? Is an action "tainted" if a guy feel some kind of sexual tension in it? Is it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:48 AM
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Why is this so far down, this 100%. Pushing for it in that way makes it creepy, no matter the "pureness" of it. Some people I am mlre flirty/touchy with than others. Discussing the fine nuance in sexuality in that is pointless here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:42 AM
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For both parties, it is more impressive to work through stuff, rather than to just to let it all burn down. I dislike the "eww, he wanted me sexually, he is so gross now" view. He showed you an obvious lack of dating ability (and/or desperation). If you really platonically liked the guy, then dont treat his sexuality as this shameful horrible part of him that should be surgically removed. That is nasty to do to someone. Help him. There is tons of ways, after you made it clear that sex is out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:39 AM
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Femcels arent bitter you know, cause they are right. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:16 AM
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I think it is more hate, and more lazily generalized gripes, than bitterness. Not denying that there is some bitter there tho, and espwcially bitterness over some men generalized to thw whole. I think it is so widely accepted, that it doesnt have time to become truly bitter. When you are applauded, told that you are valuable and right, bitterness doesnt have the same potential to grow
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:15 AM
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Yes, the bitterness is not helping them, very much agreed. The problem about much of redpill is that these systematic things are not considered OK to talk (or even think or care) about. If you do care about it, you are one of the contemptibles. Or get thrown a laundry list of ways you should change/improve. We need spokespeople for non-bitter people talking about how the world is, and how to make it in it without turning bitter. I believe the debate climate of the day is killing any aspiring suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:10 AM
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There is a world of nuance in this, its basic human interaction. When we say "ulterior motive" we think of Lies and deception outside the norm of what is ok. On top of that we have this ugly appetite to shame imperfect men over sex. As if it is a sin for a thirsty man to consider opportunities with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:05 AM
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It is still your moral responsibility not to exploit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:56 AM
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I wish 20s me had a way to enjoy the beauty around me, without drowning in self shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:47 AM
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Because they have other qualities. Society needs the Lie that you should focus on career instead of that stuff. See also how people hate "the game" and such
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:46 AM
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Yeah. The "I am traumathized, and therefore deserve x y z from anyone (And especially men)" is a no go. I dont care if you met the bastard on the app, other men on the app aint responsible for him
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:37 AM
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I get sad when I see beauty ruined by obesity. Its like seeing your favorite art, being used as wrapping paper. It is not my business. But dont try to shame me for not liking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:03 AM
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I mean, sex doesnt have to be piv
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:49 PM
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It is a meaningful distinction from the woman who needs a man (wants kids and a stable life, has little money/stability), but does not really want him. Id much rather be wanted, then needed for nonromantic reasons. Then again, part of love is becoming integral to each others lives. I dont think yiu can really end up loving someone if the focus is to keep him at a distanse, to avoid perceived need. You need to be able to be weak in front of them. So this lack if need can easily be overdone as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:04 AM
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There are levels of broken. There might always be someone who sees "broke, bur hard working" as a step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:59 PM
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Everyone is saying that you liked Girls out of your league. I think that is a bit too quickly said, and perhaps wishful thinking (men are too demanding, cos I should be more in demand). Perhaps you are looking at either side of the spektrum? You acted in a way that was not good for being liked (given time and space). You did probably register as available (And a bit desperate). Who is attracted to that?..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:57 PM
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If he was interested, it is a good chance he might have approached her first.. so statistically women are even more likely to be rejevted their first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:50 PM
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Yeah, I dont really think of the sex part with "incel" anymore, just the self-destroying spiral of entitlement and bitterness. In that way they are very similar. Id argue that the incels have more "truths that are not accepted in society" that the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:27 AM
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Ahh. I see, to them courtship has the archaic meaning. I think of it as the "imprees/concince partner" part of dating. Goes for women too, you need to convince him that the future you envision will be a good life for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:24 AM
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I agree that assigning personal blame can be counterproductive, both for these women, and for the incels. I think it is fair to discuss how the way society functions affect people, and what the negative fallout is. Empathy and sympathy are good things, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:02 AM
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The sad thing is when they live a life of being single for 10 years, sure its a free country. And then they are upset that they don't have the benefits of spending those 10 years building a life with a man. "Where is my kids, house and husband? The biological clock is mean."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:00 AM
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Basically female incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:58 PM
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Age old, hard problem. Let me just give me two cents. What do you want in a man? There is tons of ways men can be good. I think part of that TRP advice is a female version of "don't be shallow". Boring qualities are qualities too, and it is a good thing to think well of them. With OLD: you will get matches with dudes that want sex, and only sex*. Those guys are noise to be vetted out, but remember that once all the noise is gone, you have the real number of interested men left. If that number is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:54 PM
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be aware of what you are really looking for... plenty of women are thinking they want something but they just have no idea, a friend tried to find a relationship since a year, dated 25 great guys but didn't give any a second chance before realizing that she was very happy with a friend with benefits who ticked none of her boxes and with whom there is no future Sounds like turning down every restaurant, getting hungry, and ending up at the dodgy kebab place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:09 PM
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if anyone feels "courtship" is a dirty word, for some reason, I can suggest another word: negotiation Why would courtship be a dirty word?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:53 PM
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You have not missed the boat, but the boat is kinda starting to move. Worrying does not help anything, really, as with most things in life. If your life goal is a (big) family, it is very much the time to get moving, tho. I don't think the "men only date younger thing" is a big thing to worry about, but perhaps you'll have a bit harder of a time finding people in your lower age range than the higher. I think there is a real danger to make a boogeyman out of it, and blame dating failures on that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:48 PM
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Thought of that one too. I (male) find sex way less fun when the anxiety is worse, due to that fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:05 PM
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Why blame? I don't think that is a good word. You yourself say that it just falls naturally out of the dynamic. Does women, as a group, have blame for that dynamic? Nah. Blaming men is even dumber, tho. Much agree. That would just lead to delusion, at best. To remove that ugly piece of fallout, we need to change the dynamic that causes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:00 PM
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Neither do I think that we should, even if we could. There are tons of things that I believe are bad, that I see no good way of changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:53 PM
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It is about "intimacy" or about "being seen" or about "insert concept people respect more than male sexuality here". I get the desire to do so, but it hides that we need to say "male sexuality, for the sex, for the dirty stuff, is a good thing in itself".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:52 PM
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Ive seen people talk about the feet-y parts and sexy parts of the brain being somehow close, making some people have a strong connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:44 PM
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Solution: lets have more salt, until we are too dehydrated to want women. LPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:42 PM
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Nah not really. I would still be with one. Mad men level of general groping tho, I do not think I would turn down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:41 PM
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"Twenty-twenty-twenty-four hours to go I wanna be sedated Nothing to do, nowhere to go home"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:41 PM
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He is making the point that an entirely free market in this situation is not a good thing for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:39 PM
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I do not. I had a tough childhood. There are a handful of people that are kept alive by the rule of law. This does not enter into my dating life. (Apart from general fallout of being bullied by kids and school alike til the brink of suicide. But thats a different story)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:38 PM
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That goes way too fast from "I think this is a societal issue" to "I think these specific people should just fix it for me personally". Ugghhh. I agree that is a bad thing. It is unstable, it fucks with the heads of the 8s, and fucks over the rest of us. It bites the women in the ass when its time for settling down. It is not a good dynamic. That does in no way mean that it should be fixed by women just magically changing it and having sex with other people. If I ever see it change somewhat, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:36 PM
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Take it off - wash - dry - put back on, in one day? I sometimes do that with regular bedding, to save folding time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:29 PM
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I think the "porn makes you weird" thing is turbocharged when people are sex starved as well. Makes for fertile ground in the bottom 20%. The feet thing is interesting. For some people it is super duper hot, and the rest of us wonder what the hell is up with that. Little in between. I think it comes over a lot in porn, as it must be more comfy porn to make..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:27 PM
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"Look at how hot the people that wear our stuff are!" "Look at how well our clothes fit people like you." We are not immune to either message. Second one seems more ethical, but I dont doubt that they can butcher that one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:25 PM
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Who do you think the PUA artists are trying to sound like? To hide among?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:21 PM
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I am, in fact, an atheist ;P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:20 PM
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I do not think that peoples sexual urges can be reasoned away like that. Neither do I think it is a good idea to tell people that their urges are somehow bad, or necessarily connected to this or that bad impulse or urge. "Compartmentalize" sounds a lot like "repress" to me. I have a 10 year relationship under my belt, where we both have ups and downs in libido. I am no stranger to making it work, or to work through the feeling of rejection. It all started with being positive to the other one, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:18 PM
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This sounds a bit like an atheist trying to describe religion. To most people, their sexuality is a larger part of them than that. And how it works for them differ a lot between people. I do not mean this as a slur, or attack, but it seems to me that your sexuality is some thing of an outlier. I know some people that would call it "ace" in one way or another. And that is fine, I hope you find a partner that feel the same vein, and save yourself a ton of normal complication 😂 The venom you have f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:57 PM
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Could you accept that sex has value to some people, Their value on sex comes from a dopamine high that they’re insisting is something else. Then you have no way of understanding the sexuality of most people, male and female.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:36 PM
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That is a fun take on this. I dislike the way we almost excuse male sexuality when we talk about it. The excusing words all seem somewhat feminine..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:30 PM
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I also find it really frustrating when people use the word 'sex' and 'intimacy' interchangeably. A lot of people use sex to self-soothe because they're hugely insecure. What they're actually seeking is the validation of their partner that they're special. You are pulling on a single thread, in a huge knot. Seems like you have a dark view of male sexuality in general. Why is it wrong for men to want to be sexually satisfied, in a relationship? You are talking about a relationship like it is made …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:27 PM
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There are people who do not need gifts and romantic gestures in a happy relationship. Just like there are people who don't need sex. But if someone needs it, it does not mean that they are not interested in anything else. Sanity! I am convinced that "sex is important" is the majority position, by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:17 PM
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your venom is misplaced. ​ Word!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:15 PM
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Walls of text are way better than easy straw men. Sexuality is complex! Of course sexuality is complex, it is complicated, it is weirdly interwoven with who we are and how we grew up. And we grow together with our partner, in a way :) I agree that adding pressure doesn't help. But I also believe that sex is an important part of a relationship. Relationships are hard, and handling fluctuations in libido between partners is one of the hard things. What solving it looks like is different for everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:14 PM
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You seem to have such an emphatic approach to male sexual health. ​ I agree that the people posting here can be all over the place with arguments and viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:42 PM
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I agree with the first point in that intimacy too often is used, when one means sex. Sexual happiness for men is a good thing, that I wish for all. I find it sad that society (for whatever reason) end up with men with problematic sex lives. I do not think that men should be shamed for wanting to be sexually active. I find this to be on par with slutshaming, or not giving a shit about female orgasms. It comes over better to talk about the "softer" sides of touch, than the "dirty" sex when it is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:40 PM
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For most people, their sex life is very important to them. In what ways differs between people, changes as people age and change, and changes with culture. But it is normally an intimate part to self worth, to love, to identity and to a myriad other stuff for people? Do you disagree with that? Rape is terrible, and the damage is usually way worse than the purely physical damage. Why? Because it invades this personal space for someone, and that is way worse than simply "being sore in a body part …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:33 PM
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Yep, that makes as much sense as going the other way, "oh, you can have a fuck buddy, why not just fuck your siblings then? HUH?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:53 PM
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Could you accept that sex has value to some people, value that you personally do not understand/want ? Seems to me that these people aren't necessary bad/evil, just different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:53 PM
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Depends a ton on who/where you are. ​ Id say IRL can be a lot better. And a ton of that is a smaller pool of people, which helps men. Also, I'd argue that romance grows better when something fun, real and shared is happening, rather than a direct "dating venure" or stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:46 PM
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You have no better grasp of heteros than the most gayphobic people have of queer folks. I do not believe that your friend group is in any way a normal example, why would it be. There is a measure of advantage to being an attractive women around men, but the dynamic is in no way as sinister/bitter/evil/transactional as you make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:39 PM
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Id bet that the average number of orgasms is higher for women, but the distribution is very skewed to either end
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:35 PM
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Bitterness, and a ton of mental shit that comes along with it. There is a rabbit hole of bitter hateful entitled mindsets out there, that will destroy you. There need to be a wall between "I wish society was more like X" and "I fele entitled to X, and will be bitter about it" Same kinda mental holes exist for women too, ofc. I think it is a travesty that true observations (And useful ones to boot) about society are being surpressed to the point that only the bitter people talk about them. Thats …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:34 PM
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I expect sex, or if we dont have sex, for the other one to not be having it with others. Bluntly put: if you fuck other people while "serious/slow dating" me, you arent bonding with me. After a time I expect exclusivety, and that is generally a talk that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:31 PM
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"She is burned out on sex and short relationships, probably not getting what she wants on tinder. Possibly more interested in house/kids than the man she needs to make that happen. Probably a fair bit of baggage/stabsoffishness" Norway, 30 somethings. If I know her, it might change ofc, but thats my gut
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:25 PM
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Spot on! Saying something is the "bare minimum" says that you can expect all partners to be like that. And that it shouldnt be celebrated in them. It is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:21 PM
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Its not only about being mean. It is about being assertive, confident, active, daring, risktaking, funny, dominant, honest. Trying to get those things usually makes you less "nice", at least in the short term. Some men need more humility and meekness, but a lot of us dont..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:19 PM
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Hitting the wall is largely about loosing the great power of young female beauty. Talking about men hitting it is interestingly weird, as we never had that to begin with. Biological clocks, and having an easier time getting laid than dated also makes hitting the wall more likely. Neither issue hits men the same way. I think the redpill folks talk up the wall too much tho, it can be overcome, but overcoming it means lowering your standards and accepting the loss. Its hard, mentally. No argument t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:24 PM
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3-part answer to this. You are (probably) exaggarating how bad the men are. Annoying to you can be charming to his gf. Stupid people can have good sex. Looking stupid does not mean is stupid. Chill! Your friends are probably not as Great as you think they are. We like to think the best of our friends, you know.. Especially women, see it all the time. "Catie is a little chubby, and cute!" Catie looks like a train wreck.. For LTR, average people must shoot for an average match. We must accept what…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:14 PM
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Hard truth, but true. "But ma drama" is way too often used as a way to win debates. At the end if the day, you do what you do, no matter why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:28 AM
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On tinder ? Absolutely true. In the real world ? True as well, for the bottom 15% of men. Personality does not matter for them, because they wont ever get their foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:24 AM
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The treshold is not written in stone. It is influenced by the people you date/fuck/know. This leads to the sad case of people who cant get the hot guys* they used to, and cant get attracted to the people on their level.. It takes time to get over it. I also think the male "need" for sex helps in getting over it. *most likely women hitting their 30s, that want a husband
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:20 AM
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OP: those two sentences contradict each other. For each thing you also care about, you care about everything else a little less. It is a case of prioritization.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:14 AM
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They want men to collectively be more vulnerable and emotially open. But they dont like any specific man that has those traits..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:37 PM
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The reality is this : sharing a home/life is way more efficient money/time/energy wise than living alone. Same goes for extended family. Any social structure will go to somw variation of it, if money is tight. See also: people staying at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:43 PM
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Besides, it is an easily applyable option, like "no kids", "not trans", "not fat" and so on. Easy to judge from pics, easy to formulate. Tinder increases that kind of standards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 10:17 AM
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Dating options is just one part of their problem. The bar for being seen as successful is being raised, and the opportunities to so get scarcer. Lack of success is not a good look in a man, and it can only snowball. So they are getting a raw deal on income as well, and identity, class and every kind of role in society. I find this entire problem fascinating, and am thankful for my gifts in life (decent IQ, coding-compatible brain, great family). I do well enough to not collapse into negativity, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:55 PM
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I am not totally against dating someone with kids. But kids change the prospect of dating someone, and does so massively. I like to compare it to dating someone trans, which surprises both parents and trans people. Neither are automatic deal breakers, but come with a ton of baggage, that will change how the dating goes. Under the age 3 of is a hard pass for me right now, tho. As is trans-but-looks-male. I think this issue (as any baggage in dating) is made worse from dating apps. If you can sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:32 PM
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Yeah, I was talking about this aspect in particular
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:54 PM
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Here is the issue of women batting wayy out of their league on tinder, but only for sex. Suddenly, a normal match for a relationship looks like shit in comparison.. Hence the strong feeling of having settled. We handled this better without apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:13 PM
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"Men have commitment issues".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:10 PM
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Yeah. It is the same way when looking for anything, you cant "win" too much, and if you try youll likely get hurt/swindled somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:10 PM
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Your partner not being a lot older is definately something you need to prioritize, if you want it. A friend of mine hates how Girls in 20s are asked to "settle" for someone their own age. And I hate the wording. They are not settling, it is just that they can ask for more if they date older men. Age is not a freebie for men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:07 PM
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I think there is a second kind of settling in online dating, that we avoid more easily irl. "Settle" for guys thay are actually interested in a life with you.. When Chad (in lack of a better term) is not interested in marriage, he is also not meeting your standards, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:04 PM
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Bullshit. Everyone has sex with people who could be better. A lot of the time it means settling for good enough, instead of the shooting for the moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:00 PM
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Yeah. I think this is how porn and banging hot dudes who would never date you is similar. You train yourself to have higher standards for looks. It is possible to try and work on it ofc, and I think porn is the lesser issue between the two..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:59 PM
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Anything else than every woman as the shared prime minister is a tool of rhe patriarchy!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/22 03:34 PM
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This is mental rot. Some of it must come from the net, or IRL friends that manage to be as terrible as the terrible parts of the web. She is deluding herself, and focusing on stuff that does not matter. There must be terrible problems in the centre of that ball of rot, but the rot makes it impossible to know what they are. What if she accepted her standing as middle-of-the-pack human being, and decided to be nice to people, as well as settling down with some dude a bit earlier? Might have led do…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 10:21 AM
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I don't think that her main problems are physical.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 10:16 AM
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How I hate the expression "real men". One upon a time, it meant specific things that society agreed on. That was maybe a bit old-fashioned and restraining men to a specific idea of what being a man meant. But at least it was a concept people recognized, a specific niche, a agreed upon character and it demanded respect. These days people throw out "real men" to mean whatever they want you to be. And try to invoke the ghost of the societal demands of men to be "real men", or not be anything worthw…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/22 10:02 AM
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It is very self centered. Her kid is wonderful to her, therefore it must be that way to the world. It is kinda like the people with mental health issues, or that are trans, or religious, or political, or whatever. And they go on and on about it, and cannot fathom that a match want to talk about, or think about, anything else. All because it is the centre of their life. With kids it is also a subtle presumption, or attack, on the man. "Kid is the best thing ever". Aka: "You should be enthralled w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 11:52 AM
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It's no different from couples that say "having kids is amazing and fulfull your life", but then they have nothing else in life but growing their kids. I think this is correct for many couples, and they are truly happy that way. Those are usually not the ones that point it out constantly, tho.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 11:44 AM
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"my amazing daughter". I see these kinds of profiles daily. Loving parents that see their children as amazing/wonderful/greatest-there-is. The only positive to that, as seen from a possible match, is that they are probably loving parents. Apart from that it is self-centered on her part. It is presumptive on mine (my daughter is objectively amazing, you should think as well). It shows of her not understanding that the kid that is wonderful to her, is usually negative baggage to a man. It emphatiz…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/22 11:38 AM
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Is it some kind of FDS bullshit? She almost buys their logic*, but throws in that word, to kinda lessen the idea. Perhaps even thinking she is being kind, or moderate, by doing so. *Yes, bad logic is also logic. Your logic can be entire illogical.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 05:13 PM
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What the heck does she mean with hairline, income thing?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 01:48 PM
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Yeah, that rules out prostitusjon, lols
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/22 02:46 PM
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She appeears to be fundamentally messed up with sex. I bet she likes sex*, and likes wild sex too, but is too morally entangled in herself to do i with her husband. Doing the nasty isnt good enough for her real life, in a way. Acting like it was something weird she did while partying, and being "pressured" is one way to deal with that. But fucking get your head out of your ass and be a normal sexual human being dammit. Your husband is not required to want to live out your sanitized idea of getti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:32 PM
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Which is why feminists hate prostitusjon, or anything that makes male sex lives better. Male sexual happyness is not a goal for them, men are supposed to suffer when it comes to sex. All to make their barganing position better.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:26 PM
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Everything that she feels like he should want, that is. What he actually wants is beside the point, he should be the image she has of him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/22 10:22 PM
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Here in Norway the applicant lists for many government positions are public. Like chair of the national bank, principals, high level bureucracy, and so on. There is always some joke applications* from people who have no business getting the position. Like an old, broken down, carpenter applying for chair of the oil fund. And such. I think of that when I see this. Never hurts to apply right? There are guys who would like kids that are already off diapers, those exist, and some times have a ton of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:51 AM
1

She sees the networks of friends and family that would be real useful now. And wishes she had it. And then goes to the social arena that she has the best luck with, the one that has fulfilled her needs before. She goes to the familiar, that likes her. Tinder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:45 AM
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Yeah. And some times, you can get friends and network from failed dates, but it is a byproduct. Who would see the dregs of tinder, the guys not running away from this, and think "those guys are the people I want to spend time with".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:43 AM
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This is the whole "friend zone" in a nutshell I disagree. The friend zone is real, but is a ton more nuanced then how it is usually treated online*. I think it fundamentally is a case of total laziness, romantic sloth, by women. "I need to have the correct and perfect tingles at first try. If I don't get them I will sort him as "non-romantic" and never make an effort". They genuinely don't get how a little effort in this department could improve their odds by leagues and leagues. *"She put me in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:41 AM
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I am very much blessed that this is not a thing in Norway. Funny how DNA is either important, or not important at all how can you think of such things, depending on what gets a man to pick up the bill, right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:37 AM
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Man and woman create child. Woman pushes man away, and demands child support. Man is heartbroken and wants his kid in life, gradually crumples under the combnied pressures. Man #2 comes into the kids life, before woman tosses him away. State decides to make man #2 pay CP 'cos man #1 is too broken down to pay much these days. Woman destroys herself, and the child, in loneliness, poverty and unstability. The modern family!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:37 AM
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Can be so, so, many things! The list is never ending! Could be: imagines her dream prince, the man to sweep her off her feet, the guy she would do anything for*. The angel choir would sing, they would fall for each other, flirt like teenagers, he'd walk through fire for her. After a few weeks of dating, he'll take her on a great trip, and they have their first kiss in the storm just outside a lighthouse, where they suddenly get it, they like each other! Throw in the plot of her favorite rom-com …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/22 10:34 AM
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Let me propose something radical. Something disruptive, game changing and innovative. A move order, that would transform her position heavily. Step1: Cultivate a network of loving friends and family that can help you out. Get your village. This step will be hard for a ton of folks, I recognize that, but give it a shot. Main person of interest here is your partner. Step2: Have kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 04:39 PM
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Good point. When we accept this kind of "anything bad for me is unjust bullshit, everything I do is fair and holy" we get that. Yep. Bitterness and hating the game or the other sex.. it leads to no good places. Kind of the meta why inspins and incels are the exact same thing.Soured.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 01:49 PM
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So you are in a dating app looking for "friends and maybe something more", while demanding the other party should want to be someone for her kids. Yeah.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/22 01:43 PM
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I am a Norwegian leftist, and I can see how the government has no place in this. It is a sociological issue, and needs to be solved within our culture. Quite specifically: surplus male sexual desire in youth needs to be channeled into something positive. How we'll do it in the future I dont know, but old ways was soldiers with brothels, sailors with brothels/money, succesful men getting partners, lots of poets and singers and a bunch others. Channeling it into bitterness and doubt is really dama…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:25 PM
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One nit pick I have with this: what is generally seen as hot, and in demand, is something people usually agree on. There is some wiggle room, but not as much as we like to tell our selves. I don't think this is anything new, as you say with the football team and prom analogy, even before SoMe people had "who is the hottest ones" figured out. I very much agree that the group think is damaging tho, but I think the effect is different. I think they are destroying each others ability to compromise. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:17 PM
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Thanks! :D
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 07:07 PM
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The giga irony is that these same women want to inject more empathy to society. To see rhe inherent value in us all. Except if yiu are a productive white man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 02:33 PM
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It truly shows off her lack of empathy towards him as a human being. If he isnt interested in being serious with her, he just is an unserious piece of shit, that has no value in himself. After all he doesnt give her what she wants, what use does such a useless man have? What value does he have outside his uses?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:19 PM
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Imagine looking for jobs, and getting a ton of offers for being a customer, unpaid trainee, temporary hire to fill a position, freelancer, whatever. At some point you gotta figure out that the responses are in no way related to what you want, and move on to jobs you can actually get. Or improve yourself.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:17 PM
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"Step daddy loves you like your own, and this did not require work on anyones part, nor was he at any point hesitant to pick up this responsibility. He immediately fell in love with you and your family." Its a nice lie we tell children. Its a nice fantasy to live, once the couple are a couple and everything. No one focuses on "she accepted me for me and I accepted her for her, and we were good enough for each other" after the fact. That would be nasty. But she already believes it! Horse before c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:15 PM
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She complained about many of the same things, i.e. many men’s lack of interest in assuming responsibility for her children, the expense of babysitting, etc. I mean, this is a red flag. Why should he have any interest in those burdens? If you become a couple, sure they are also his burdens, but why should he have interest in them? Imagine if a man was griping to the women he met, about such things? Why don't women throw them selves at me, give me great sex, cook/clean and fix my life? Why don't t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:12 PM
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Why did the monkey stop dancing, when I hit it ? Usually when I hit monkeys, they dance faster and more interestingly!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:09 PM
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This should be in large letters, every time any women opens any OLD app: "Getting men that are interested in sex, and only sex, is a given. It has absolutely nothing to do with getting men that are interested in you for something more, or interested in you for being you."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:05 PM
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Virginity don't really matter to me, and tattoos can be cool*. But there is difference between being sexually experienced, and having lived 10-20 years of teenage-like party sex with way hotter guys than me. A life that I never could have had, with my means, in a thousand years. *With a focus on the "can" not on the "cool" bit. Most likely they aren't, but if everything goes right it can be kinda OK. I have a friend that had exactly one "I'm 18 with a little bit of money" trip to Ibiza and celeb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:03 PM
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Imagine I get the fastest cars I can get with my budget. I then spend the next years complaining about how my cars are constantly expensive to maintain, hard to repair, difficult to drive and totally not my thing. Being down to earth, mature and reflected, economically stable and wanting a relationship (with someone like you) are great things in a man. In the dating market these are things that are greater boons for men than women. Society has lost a ton of respect for "normal, boring, living a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 01:00 PM
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There are different ways to use insta. But posting on insta as if she was a teenager? Absolutely.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:48 PM
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Just got out of an LTR, which means they mainly want to hook up and maybe, possibly get a relationship Heyy, you found me ! I'm slowly exiting the "hookups only" phase into "hookups, perhaps even a relationship" phase. And let me tell you, my wants and needs are way higher for the second bucket than the first.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:48 PM
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Oh absolutely. And tinder makes it worse*, by offering her a never ending stream of Chad to fall in love with. And to start believing you have a shot to date. I don't envy women the question of "how much lower than my SMV do I go, in order to try to find a guy that matches my RMV?". How much do you leave on the table, in order to attract a relationship guy, and how do you dodge the lieing fuckboys at that level? *Funny how often that is the refrain when we talk about tinder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:45 PM
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My theory: if a girl is getting 50 matches a week and still gets pumped and dumped, it's because they love it not because they want someone serious. Might not be. "The odds are good, but the goods are odd". Women have the problem of sorting through the entire back catalog of not-relationship-material dudes, before finding someone decent. Tons of hopeless likes is the female equivalent to male getting no likes. Most of the women on here sleep with those guys as well, of course, getting sex but no…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:42 PM
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But not a waste of time for women... like, it's still an effective app for ordering up a hookup (sex) anytime they want. Yep. Male sexual desire is in over supply compared to female. Has always been, will always be. This has taken that and weaponized it, taken it to the economic logical extreme..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:38 PM
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I think flirting IRL is taking on an aura of being fishy, wildly inapproriate at any time and weird. "We have online dating, I meet people there, why are you trying to cheat the system?". Especially with male abundance online, why hit on men IRL? Then anyone breaking the pattern looks increasingly weird and bad, for the sin of not following the pattern. I think we cheat out selves, especially women!, of the safety net of friends and family this way. Women refuse to date men that are friendzoned*…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 12:31 PM
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Female trash profile. She does not get any likes from men she wants, and she does nothing to get them. She needs to sift through her matches like washing for gold to find anyone remotely interesting. A male profile like this gets exactly no likes*. He can polish it, until he gets likes, and those are often okay-ish. The trash likes are usually few enough to filter out easily. Women have the opposite problem, they get a ton of likes, from the same 1% of terrible dudes, and focus on that noise. "I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 10:08 AM
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Why on earth put BLM on the front of the profile? I mean, what the heck? Is that the most important part of your life, some vague movement that other people push forward? Some political thing that you have no ownership in? That is who YOU are, to a partner? WTF? I am a political type, used to be in party politics. BLM is not in my country, I do not understand the burning and looting and whatever, but I do get the general "stop shooting us" part. But still, I also support stuff. I would maybe eve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 10:02 AM
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if you can't handle Yeah, absolutely. Worst thing is that the "go into nursing" ads here have picked it up. "Are you man enough to be a nurse?". Fuck that shit, and horse it rode in on. Imagine the outcry, from the same people, if actual man-man vocations did the same thing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 09:58 AM
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This came over from the nicegirls sub. Some of the women there genuinely did not get why a ton of men get angry over this. "It is an age old way to date". "Good on her for being honest". And so on. "Get marred, have kids together, support each other in thick and thin" is a culture of dating, and of life. She did not want to go that route, and that is fine, the world is a new* place after all. Suddenly, when her choices bite her, she wants the stability of that route. But she has not "paid her in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 09:55 AM
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She wants someone to sign up for "..and in bad times". As in "in good times and in bad times", just that the good times have already passed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 09:49 AM
2

I get into some heated debates in conservative circles because a lot of those guys are against the way M>F transsexuals are getting women's athletic scholarships. I have no issue with it. Feminists demanded - and got - access for women into every last space that used to be exclusively male, so what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. The sport thing is interesting, because it highlights two areas of uncomfortable, unspoken, lies. Men are way better at physical stuff than women, both o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/22 09:48 AM
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The relative smv between yourself as young and old is the same whether you are a model or a nerd. If you set the bar at "the dudes I met while younger and hotter" you will have a bad time regardless. She should think back to her glory days, does she remember visible 60 year olds?..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/22 05:01 PM
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The double standard is staggering in this. "Kid has your dna, you qre on the hook! Pay up, do whatever I sant you to do. Dna is super important." "Insemination/cuckolded husband/adoption: Dna is irrelevant, the kid needs a father. Who cares whose dna is involved! It is so old fashioned to care about." Like, pick one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/01/22 04:56 PM
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I think option two might work, if you are hot enough not to feel like you settled.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/01/22 12:23 AM
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I think the mostøy cis thing is a kind of preemptive self defence, that is necessery in some circles. What she means is "Im a woman, dating men", but you need to dress it up a bit to fight of the "you trans hater" crowd.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 11:14 AM
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And for some of them it works. They find the one while the checkboxes are few, and she is young. Some luck, some genetics. And just like gambling some payouts encourage the rest to keep at it. Never mentioning that this way of looking at things should be left to the teens
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/22 11:07 AM
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Haha, yeah, thats an interesting way to look at it. ​ Can say the same thing about employers that are suddenly shocked that their employees has bargaining power, and want value out of the relationship too. "Whaaaa? I have been thinking of you as a simple tool, and now you leave??".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/21 02:21 PM
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Didnt intend to shame men on this one, sorry about that. So tired of women complaining about "wrong" attention on tinder. The men arent being mean to them, they are just people intetested in sex only. They dont owe yiu a relationship. They dont owe you to be the match you want. They are just the extra padding between "response you want" and "no response". Men dont even get that padding, just crickets.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 12:06 PM
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Fuck, been writing way too late in the night, not translating properly an idea from "makes sense in own head" to "makes sense generally". I menat getting a flush on the river. Getting something on the fifth card can be called "rivering it". Thus you can say "I went all in in a bad spot, but rivered a heart for a flush. Phew!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 09:40 AM
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Yup. Break down of old social contracts apparantly mean "cherry pick what I want from all of them, and shame men when they dont provide".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 09:38 AM
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I would guess that the male dregs of tinder isnt anything to envy them, tbh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 09:35 AM
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Nono, why should she pick older men ? She used to date younger men !
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 09:34 AM
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Yeah, Lie is probable here. Or 175 in her youth is a teeny little exaggaration (perhaps hit it at some point) and 275 is convenient in the other direction to turn a 100-150 pound gain range into a 100 pound gain. I am no stranger to self Lies like that 😂
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/21 09:33 AM
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There is a whole understood social contract in "this is how dating is done".. These people argue in such bad faith that it is laugh able and sad :(
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 10:02 PM
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What is a sex gummy?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 09:59 PM
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These are people who dont internalize what a chance of an outcome is, debating against each other. Would love to play poker against. "You cant get that king on the river, it is so unlikely!!" "No, I will get it, it happens all the time, so it must happen to me!!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 09:55 PM
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Theory: last time she dated seriously that was a fair range, perhaps at like 28-32 (still optimistic but less hopelessly so). She was moving towards the wall, getting less attention, and work was fun. Years later she has not fully gripped her lost value, and still clings to the old view of what a man would look like. After all, she had offers from guys back then, and she is still she, right? Right??
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 09:28 PM
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At that point, straight prostitutes would be more honest. Anpther reason to be pro legal sex selling, something like it will appear anyway
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/11/21 09:08 PM
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With those demands and those looks.. She should logically be looking in the bottom 1% of men in terms of looks. If that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 01:26 PM
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I mean, fair enough, seen way worse here. Way better than the fat hiding pics, and surpised pikachu when men doesn't like her body. She is apparantly looking for the one chubby-chaser fetish dude that wants a piece. Will be looking for a while. The republican/anti-vax things are off-putting, and this is coming from someone on the Norwegian left wing! The LEO thing was pretty funny, to be honest. If you have a thing against star signs and law enforcements, then it is a neat way to put it. Great t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 01:18 PM
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"Rules of consideration" - trashily and needlessly "formal boss bitch" blergh. Would've left swiped there and then. The list reads like a badly written set of if-sentences in a piece of code that needs refactoring badly. My reactions: Sure thing, fair enough, assume she doesnt have any. Still OK thing to want at 25. Weird line in the sand to draw. She is 25, seems reasonable. To me this sounds like "want 27 to 30". "Have a job" seems reasonable (esp for 27 to 30) Lol, lets assume this is somewhe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 01:13 PM
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It is so sad that brigading is a problem exactly when the "people we dont like do it" but is a good thing when tje "people we like" are out spreading the word and fighting the baddies
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/21 06:58 PM
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No one wants to be the one to bring the bad news, to say the things that hurt. Much easier to go "Nono, you are beauuuutiful honey, you deserve the exact same men we are talking about, no reason that you beingbroke-fat-ugly shouldn't get as great men as us! Looks doesnt matter, and you are suuper nice!" ​ And suddenly the whole friend group batch their good traits, and believe each one should have a man as if they had all the good things any of them have. Anything else is misogony, superficial o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/21 04:03 PM
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He wouldn’t stay…or “I wasn’t sure the relationship was solid enough so got pregnant” 3 times? And that relationship in the last paragraph sounds like a train wreck. Why are you making children with someone you dont wanna marry? Whats so much more serious about marriage than kids? *sigh*
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 04:57 PM
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"total strangers" is key here. I am way more inclined to sympathy and charity when it comes to this in my network, than on a random dating app. Apps are meat markets, after all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 04:54 PM
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The mental mechanisms of abuse are like that. They end up defending the abuser, having children, insisting he is the best there is. "I fell down the stairs", "I annoyed him", "He had a bad day at work", "The kids were awfully loud" and so on. I don't have to rely on the literature here, I have seen it happen with family members. It sucks balls. My aunt got out after around 15 years (family knew for 10 of them), she and the three kids will carry the legacy of their despicable father to their grav…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 04:52 PM
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She should try to work through the break up before thinking more about if "this is it" or whatever. This is the emotional dregs of a failed relationship, and she is reading her entire future in those tea leaves. Also, a woman that has followed the stream (school into teaching) has met someone who has not (focused on his skills, made a career for himself). That is not always an easy reality check to face.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 08:55 AM
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mentally, and emotionally Yeah, that scares me. Any man not doing what she wants would be labeled abuser, 100%
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 08:48 AM
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I know women that have been abused, one that is currently trapped in a terrible abusive cult. They do indeed have more kids with them, and fight for them. It is a terrible thing, but it is normal for the police to show up to domestic abuse, only for the bleeding partner to fight to excuse the abuser. That hole is deep and horrible. Ofc, crazy trash people want to claim abuse, in order to get the sympathy that is owed the people who are really abused :( I wonder if the profile itself could be sue…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 08:46 AM
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One of the few good sentences in the bio, honestly. The sane message could basically be "settled down with the wrong man, got back on my feet, ready to try again". The kids sharing a father indicates that, and abuse kinda does too (I was trapped in a bad decision, got out, the fault was not really with me). Now the rest of the bio is crazyness, and I highly doubt the abuse claims are really accurate, would wager they are basically "we had a terrible relationship, he wouldn't stay, and was not ki…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 08:42 AM
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But it all spends the same, hence the rampant monetization of their reproductive systems. And the following "woe is me, kids are so expensive, being a single mother is so hard, I am the salt of the earth give monies please". Yeah, kids are not cheap. Which is the reason you get the money that you thought were kinda free a few years ago.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/10/21 08:37 AM
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Yup, kinda implied it as well ;) People doing out-of-norm stuff are generally somehow weird. Either dicking down anything, or being weirdly celibate or way way more settled down than is normal for their group. Dont get me started at alphas and sexual misconduct
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/21 09:48 PM
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Well. 7 figures at 30 indicates someone very driven, and possibly weird. Might have focused exclusively on work. (I could never do that. Neither could I pull that amount of money..)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/21 09:00 PM
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On the point about therapy. I have had some myself, but its very limited in its usefulness. Especially when you are in a bad spot in life. Its not endulgances as much as a band aid on living a life that is not good for you. But when your ideology pushed you to live a life that makes you miserable.. Yeah, keep covering that woth band aids..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/10/21 09:56 AM
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Human nature. "I want X, but not enough to be willing or able to spend the time/energy/chunk-of-my-life needed to X". Our culture loves to encourage the short-term, no-work, "trash food" route. Where you don't need to apply yourself, but get no results either. Goes for almost all facets of life, there will be someone peddling an easy solution. For a personal example, I'd love to improve my body. I could eat a ton of great tasting protein bars, do nothing else, and then say "if I get healthier fr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 01:48 PM
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She expects that a relationship is just going to magically appear while doing not-relationship-things. ​ For the "would love to settle down", doing any other hobby is probably a better bet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 11:54 AM
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"If I can meet someone I would be comfortable enough to date.. Then I would do that." Yeah, no shit. Getting a relationship is what is hard for you, getting someone to settle down with (as you said you want) is what you'll have to work for. If you get the hard thing while doing the easy thing, ofc you would be down for that. It is just that it won't happen, unless you work for it. I play music for fun, and also jam for fun. That is the easy part for me. If someone offered me a ton of money and l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/21 11:53 AM
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Well, the norwegian crown Prince actually did !
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/21 07:47 AM
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Like a ton of other stuff, old customs survive in the countryside. It's less cute than an accent or a good recipe for <our cultural food>.
/r/MensRights19/09/21 02:01 PM
9

I would assume it is a dick long to enough to your own ankles. Thus spanking them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/21 11:51 AM
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Maybe it is something like a misguided negotiating tactic. She says "under" but establishes the number..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/21 01:14 PM
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Doing a PhD is good way to spiral into mental health issues, not a defence against it..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/09/21 10:25 AM
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Well, if the contract States "within your demands, or no match" she may have a case. Then again, she is now choosing to spend her last fertile years doing a bitter court case. Real clever.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/21 01:07 PM
2

Well, I have a type, or types. I absolutely do fall for women outside my type, but it is more likely with those.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/21 01:06 PM
1

No lovely bridge somewhere?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/21 12:55 PM
4

A few lines from James Alley Blues comes to mind: I gave you sugar for sugar, you want salt for salt I gave you sugar for sugar, but you want salt for salt And if you can't get along, honey, it's your own damn fault
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/21 08:14 AM
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Isn't that common for contact sports? ​ (Then again, one of the advantages of my early childhood is saying "I don't feel like doing those sports, I have already had my fill of real fighting in life").
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/21 08:13 AM
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She looks hydrated. Sorry, rehydrated
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/21 06:35 AM
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She says she is bisexual. Might be that she is more interested in women than men. Have not been dating men for many years, back when she was drowning in offers.. Perhaps she is more interested in women, but wanna try the man thing again, for the stability and cash?..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/08/21 06:35 AM
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Yep. OTOH, he might've tried to post that question a number of times without words, kissing and holding hands (and I assume other flirting) and have gotten a no. Time to deploy the nuclear option and ask directly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/08/21 08:22 AM
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Lots of bullshit and self delusion, but let me make a kind of CV: 19-24 (ish) Dated the older boss. Got Herpes. Stayed longer than she should have. 28-33. Dated the weird catholic. No sex, no commitment, lots of drama, for 5 years. Stayed longer than she should have. Quick rebound after. (Player, deludes herself afterwards to think that she really was looking for something long term). 34-37 Single in NYC, post wall? 37 IVF, pregnant. 38-42. Taking care of kid and her life. Moving home. Pining ov…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/21 08:30 AM
2

Good to hear that there are more of us :)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/21 02:59 PM
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I mean, this may be the Norwegian equality speaking, I kinda care about a good job. But then again, what is a good job?I don't care about her being successfully career "dominant". I care about her being in a good place when it comes to work-life balance, money and ability to take care of herself. Career-women stressing themselves to death have a big piece of luggage, but it is worse with "I have no drive to do anything, barely hold a shit job down and will leach of any partner.*" Then we have ac…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/21 07:45 AM
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I find it interesting how the article angles FDS. FDS is a cesspool of inspin male-hate. It is the words of the devil telling you "you are perfect, you are great, those other people are terrible, nothing is wrong with you, you deserve what all these other women have, etc", all the while filling you with hate, bitterness and entitlement. This seduction is seductive enough for enough of feminist activists that it is ignored or encouraged. Buried there, tho, there seems to be some truth about OLD. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/21 10:22 AM
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Seems like she cancelled other parts of FDS as well. He's balding, probably have a porn problem ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/21 10:16 AM
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My ex-FIL had a strategy for himself (that I should have copied). Date 5 people, then settle once you find someone that beats all 5 in most ways. Not the 300 chad CC, not the first person willing to date you. Reasonable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/21 10:16 AM
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I mean, I get it. I am bad at finding friends, and especially friends that challenge me in good ways. I have through the years had a bunch of things I wanted to do but diwnt have anyone to go with, it sucks. Latest case this evening :/ Still, Id never get her levels of sympati for it..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/21 05:37 PM
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Interesting! I read that back then, and my thoughts were basically "Yeah, I agree this hits us single real hard, and it is not really acknowledged." I was put off by her language tho, and quit reading quite early. I had not found this sub yet back then. I do think she also has gone down her own reddit rabbithole since then.. When you read what she writes a bit closer, holy smokes! She seems desperately lonely, longing for family life, while applauding ONS and being single. Perfect specimen of FD…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/21 08:32 AM
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How many Norwegians are we here? :D Norwegian here too. Thought about translating that and publishing here, good to see someone else do it. Might add the complaint from march about "the useless men".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/21 12:32 PM
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Im somewhere in the middle here. Think Ive been fucked over by depression
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre29/07/21 06:37 PM
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Makes me wonder why I am a cart puller (code slinger. Systems programming, kinda old school coding even). Was on sick pay for a while, burnout. You would take pleasure in the story of how it wss connected to the up coming breakup with the ex. And her being a modern woman.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre27/07/21 12:02 PM
8

So... shes looking for a donor. And has a spiral ?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/07/21 10:30 PM
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The very rare warhammer fans would know the differences too ;) Even better: warmachine
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/21 06:02 PM
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"Their eyes gloss over when I start talking about my career". Of course they do. Most career talk is uninteresting to me, whether it comes from a man or a woman. Exceptions are very formidable people, or fields that I find interesting. My guess is that she ticks of neither.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/21 05:59 PM
5

I don't get this obsession about driving a nice car. I drive an old car, with a nice interior, and I don't have to worry about dents or fender benders. It's nice. I could buy a more expensive car, in cash, tomorrow, but I don't feel like it. Like WTH?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/21 08:14 AM
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👋👋
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/07/21 05:25 PM
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To me this sounds like work, even as a nerd. Imagine sitting through her talking about harry potter. Ugh.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/21 12:43 PM
2

However cute you might think having a cooking and cleaning wife is, you are dependent on her for survival and it's never a good idea to depend on women for survival. Remember: she might die first.. And then, in your old age, it is too late to learn to keep a house for yourself..
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/07/21 12:41 PM
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I have had a bunch of female therapists. None of them really seemed to acknowledge my problems or position in life at all really. I had the solid package of money and job and stuff, what was the problem? We never really connected on an emotional level. It took male therapists to understand my motivation and desires, and not just "lets get you non-suicidal and productive and oooofff we go". The more I think about it, the more it smells of a lack of interest in me living my life in accord to my wa…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/07/21 12:40 PM
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I would still date her, then again I have no issues with tattoos. ​ But I would try to get to know everything I find dodgy before the relationship gets old, you know?
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre06/07/21 09:13 AM
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MD is not a phd.. But I agree that the focus is malplaced. It also forgets how simply not doing anything is as bad a threat as anythkng Else. I am too gyilty of that. I know a bunch of academics. Many of them have families. Yet combinig tvose two is really hard and require great sacrifice and work. Also makes wasting time in a bad ltr worse :/ Also the op forgets thar not all phds are the same. It might be an extended md, leading to a job and a settlef life and the normal stuff. It might be a hu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/21 10:09 PM
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Preslminantly male games bad. Farmville good
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 04:05 PM
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Add a culture that pushes stupid unproductive Office time..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/21 04:03 PM
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I think that depends on their view point on their sub ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 06:48 PM
2

Eating ten pounds of chicken per day. I'd fall to pieces. ​ I did a pound a day on PSMF, for a month, and that was pushing it!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 11:32 AM
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And they don't wan tposts from men. At all. Sigh.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 11:29 AM
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I think he ment "FDS" female dating strategy, a subreddit. Basically a pretty sexist, feelgood echo chamber for women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/21 12:28 PM
3

Should have some part about the wealth being eaten away by inflation(time) as well
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/21 06:05 PM
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Holy damn thats bad
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/06/21 03:45 PM
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Yep, that is what I was implying. ​ I do believe that she is <insert type here> when that leads to perks, but not otherwise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/21 06:11 PM
3

Oh lord wont you buy me a mercedes benz
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/21 01:30 PM
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Then again, this is taking something that exists to an entitled extreme. My ex has a phd in math. I really feel like I know the culture of that world through her (and know a bit more about its limitations behind the scenes). Do I have anything more than my masters tho? Not at all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/06/21 10:24 PM
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"Im hard-pressed to find a man who fits my idea of the perfect gentleman. Maybe I'm just too picky. Maybe I believe that a man should encompass certain characteristics. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. Someone once told me that I should lower my standards when looking to find a mate. Well, if that were the case, I would have stayed married." Perfect gentleman. I need to go pick my jaw up from the floor. Old fashioned, but not willing to prioritize the marriage..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 10:28 PM
7

Giving attention and effort, only to be casually turned down.. how the turntables!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 10:22 PM
2

About the 11 ft man. I wonder what would happen with the height preference if we had some kind of fantasy races among us. "I like them tall." "Tall ? Like frost giant-blood -tall? Those guys are hideous!!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 05:42 PM
3

I am a man raised in Norway. By a leftwing fqmily.Raised probably as equality oriented as we come. I have no problems with women having success or being strong. But as any partner I see these things as they relate to me, not as they relate to her or her fiends.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 02:27 PM
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Very much agreed that "success" is a hard thing to define. Let's make a spectrum between "made a profitable business, could retire tomorrow if she wanted, but just picks the tasks she want 'cos fun" and "runs a business that is her life, it is successful because she works a ton and basically pulls minimum wage. Will not stop talking about how important this is to her/the world. Bonus points for MLM". One is a positive for dating for me. The other is a negative. I suspect that the latter is less …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 01:07 PM
6

Since when does the badguys find the clit ? "Find the clit" is starting to mean "makes me orgasm"..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/21 10:48 AM
2

Might it be a wish for nice-in-spite-of-who-he-is as opposed to Just generelly a nice dude?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/21 02:12 PM
5

RedPill + anger/resentment is a good way to go down a very unhealthy road. And you will get absolutely no sympathy from society as a "useless man, incel, someting-ist, something-phobe bastard".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/21 11:59 AM
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"Real Men mend a heart they didn't break and raise kids they didn't make" This is so shitty. Only men with these traits are real men, and only if they help me. I bet these women detest the concept of masculine "I am a real man, if.." the second the traits don't help them. "Real women sleep with me whenever I want, the rest are just stupid girls or old hags."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/21 11:23 AM
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*Her shitty, entitled attitude lands her firmly in the bottom of the dating market -- FTFY Hmm, shall we say "cements her position" ? ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/21 07:31 PM
2

When I saw the title, I thought "dwarf" just meant "low woman". Now thats a bit mean? It's an <PC word for dwarf in English> xD
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/21 07:17 PM
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"I like them tall", and that sweep of the knowing, "mhmmm, tall" grin. Doesn't this start approaching the "haha, look, the woman says the same kinda thing that sexist men do" double standard? "I like them busty" - knowing grin, wouldn't exactly be well received.. Not that I don't get how/why it works, but still kinda thought-inducing. I bet theres a lack of thruth-bombs, when it comes to some disabled people. "She may be the odd one out (due to lack of man)". No, she IS the odd one out. Heekie-j…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/21 07:15 PM
2

True, difference between ideal and expected.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/21 07:09 PM
1

Lol, so she has dated a lot, but says herself that she didnt get ant experience? 🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 05:10 PM
3

I kinda get this. My first actual relationship with a woman lasted 8 yrs.. Say that it had lasted a bit longer, with kids, and I'd be pretty much there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 02:41 PM
1

But how was it counted? By number of messages sent from one age group to another. Therefore, I wonder how much that is skewed by a large number of "wankers" or just men "playing games" online (not discounting men like you also being in the mix). What I mean is the online dating users who want to interact with womensolely to masturbate or for entertainment, sexual validation,performative masculinity, whatever. This is an example of hard problems in social science. Instead of shrugging and working…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 11:52 AM
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Men and women have different challenges in OLD. Men will have a harder time getting any matches or dates. Women have way more offers, but need to filter out all the noise. I do not disagree on that front. Do consider the point that if even 0.1% of the pool is internet-active dating-undesireable weirdos, then that is a lot of people that can make a lot of noise. Similar to this: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HCssSWMp7zoJAPtcR/you-are-not-hiring-the-top-1 (Similarily, the "I need a greek god ATM…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 11:33 AM
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"The dating pool is crowded (???) Between 35 and 47, and there are more women than men. OLD is bad" Ahhh. How the turntables! Meet people in real life, spend the time on the online apps or resign yourself to your chosen fate. You are not owed anything.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 09:59 AM
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As soon as you let people get away with this they will do so..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 09:46 AM
2

The wall is (as far as I can understand) a change in state in the dating market from "you are being seen as a beauty, and can expect constant chase and attention", to that not happening. That never happened to most guys to begin with, and the concept of the wall is different. Not only fertility. I'd love a younger partner (currently looking), and part of that is looks, plain and simple. If women start with a larger amount of looks, and both loose it proportionally with age.. Then women loose mor…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 09:34 AM
3

"My hobby is baking" may mean "I love eating cake" ?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 09:42 PM
1

Balding sucks :/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 09:41 PM
3

I am balding. My Brother is balding. All my uncles balding. Dad balded like 3 years younger than me. I refuse to believe that it is my fault.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 09:40 PM
1

I wonder if it is a kind of revenge for male age related preferences? The depreciating looks feels real bad, so aging signs in men need to be bad too..
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 09:38 PM
1

I tried hair loss drugs. Impotent for a week before dropping them like they were hot. May have had the same reaction
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 09:32 PM
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This is someone who is good at the woke word salad. So filled with BS in grey areas, that you have a hard time fighting it while being kind. And fighting it unkindly is seen as terrible. And is pointless anyway, in its boringness. Most of it just saying random things, with authority and wokeness, being kind to herself, while dismissing things that feel bad for her by saying it is an evil belief and myth. Oh, and she is getting older and more secure in herself. Part of that is to have good days, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 11:13 AM
1

Her face is so plasticcy and ugh. (And yeah the body is a mess, but we kinda knew that right?)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 07:50 AM
2

Kinda treating the night club as the "find a man" place in a simple video game. I have grinded that location for a long time, and I have no man. 0/10 bad game
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/06/21 04:19 PM
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