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It's not dishonest it's realistic. How many cases have you heard of, or have factual knowledge of where a man reported a rape and the woman was charged and convicted? We hear about assault all the time and if a man / woman defends themselves in a situation like that who is going to be taken seriously and will likely suffer legal consequences? It's very, very difficult for a man to prove this especially if you physically stop the act and defend yourself, but the opposite is true if the woman does…
/r/MensRights27/03/26 07:41 AM
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Most men, or atleast men I know, are more than happy to pay for dinner if they're taking a woman out on a date. That's a no brainer.........unless it's not really a date but somehow business related etc. From what I've read though you're describing atypical men, or men that you should have learned to avoid by now. The misguided comments & details trying to tie multiple problems you have with men back to potentially having them not pay for a dinner is misguided. As I said I will always pay for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:36 AM
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Your post isn't your opinion? Ok whose opinion are you posting? You stated "legally is it rape? no". That's beyond an opinion that's a legal interpretation by definition. Read what you wrote again........because very clear opinions and a legal interpretation are written very clearly.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 06:27 AM
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I've read dozens and dozens of definitions for what a "high value man" and "high value woman" are supposed to mean. It was no shock that the definitions vary depending on the intent & desires of the person actually writing it down. Meaning there is no consistent definition whatsoever for that term it's a subjective label. It's literally impossible to come up with a one size fits all definition because we all have our own preferences and perceptions about what "high value" means. Until someone ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:52 AM
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it's "only" sexual assault if a man is the victim? That comes across as "not really a big deal because it's a man and women can't really rape men". That's an easy translation> Thanks for the legal opinion, as well as the concern for men who have been assaulted or raped, just like the one the OP posted about.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 09:30 AM
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what's "not really consenting"? I get that dating for those of you who are younger (say 25 or under randomly) actually involves verbally obtaining the exact words "I consent" throughout what should be a fun time IF you all literally are asking for consent from each other, multiple times, every time you hook up with someone that's not something that even sounds fun. The answer to the question though is It depends on the people involved, but if a person does not verbally consent, and yet the other…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 09:13 AM
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Has the OP had personal experience testing this hypothesis? I'd say no because if he had he'd be divorced by now if he has any self respect or experience in actual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:53 PM
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This requires no explanation and is common sense if you want a real relationship. However as we all know there are men who are willing to provide financial security in exchange for affection / dating with someone out of their league. Just as some women make dating wealthy men a hobby because their obsession with money trumps anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 10:05 AM
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Your quote was verbatim "I feel like you are "not all man"" which is very insulting to me and most people would agree. If your grammar is incorrect and you meant to say I'm not "like most men" maybe that would , make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:36 AM
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I'm "not all man"? I am a man and not sure how personally insulting me is relevant to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:24 PM
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Lemon Prestigious is right, and as I've been saying this "narrative" you included has been specifically customized by you to make any male option, attractive or not, come across as a clearly bad decision to date or be with. The structure of the whole question was just a set up because there is not one mention of normal men as an option for women. As I've said several times you split men into 2 categories, both of which are described as toxic or unappealing, and leave out normal men who don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:14 PM
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There's no right and wrong here I answered your questions and call BS on the narrative. But where's any reference to the majority of men in the world that don't fall into your 2 descriptions of shitty types of men from your narrative? That's what I don't get. If every man on the planet is a shithead in your mind that's all I needed to know Opinions on Reddit don't drive dating in real life for those of us who go out into the real world which I choose to focus on .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:50 PM
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Uhhh I am a man..... and no man I'm friends with, or know would fit into your over simplified narrative of 2 types of guys so I call BS on that. Just as any man I know would. That narrative didn't come from men it's your interpretation of a tiny sliver of them whose opinions on this site you don't like clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:13 PM
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The narrative as you wrote it splits men into 2 categories. That's most certainly an attempt at oversimplifying because it's just not accurate. You wouldn't want either type of guy you described that's clear. There are plenty of men who don't fall under your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:59 PM
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You're oversimplifying this by lumping men into 2 categories which isn't reality. Any man or woman who is insecure enough to think that if their partner is attractive and has options they are just being used for casual sex. That's definitely the case in some situations usually with younger people dating around either looking for the right person or just wanting to date around with. no intention of being in a relationship at that point. Lots of variables. If a woman, or man, thinks the person the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:39 AM
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Normal adults (men) don't fantasize about harem anime or dating sims FYI. I know men and women who like certain types of porn and watch it together and role-play so some fantasies do play out for people. Maybe teenagers and introverted, anti social men who are socially inept have very misguided expectations based on what they watch online or on their phone. There's nothing wrong with fantasies as long as you're mentally stable enough to understand the difference between your realistic options an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:24 AM
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Decent points but grown men don't troll bars looking for a GF. Sure it happens sometimes but most women are on their phones at bars and a growing number take offense at being approached by men they don't know. That's not my scene but I've lived through the transition from people wanting to meet new people when they go out to not wanting to meet anyone that they haven't matched with on an app or on SM. Good advice above generally but exposure etc. does not change the statistical facts and numbers…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 12:03 PM

How is stating facts being cruel to obese people? I'm very concerned for the health of Americans given what they consume generally speaking, and the obesity epidemic. Promoting exercise is not an attack and being active and going to the gym show that you prioritize health and self care. If exercise is considered "killing yourself" in your opinion then rethinking your life priorities may be in order. Is a long, healthy life important? or is a sedentary lifestyle and poor diet the priority? For mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:43 AM

LOL kinda funny Equivalent and I'm a no piller who isn't seething at all but simply call it like I see it. Yes most couples are within a few years of each other but where I live, and in my travels all over the world if you see a couple with a noticeable age difference the woman is younger generally speaking. Nothing wrong with that why would anyone care? I have to disagree with you on the 95% of young chicks never dating older men. If by "old" you mean 60+ maybe that's true but where I live it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:32 AM

So if love is irrelevant why in the world would anyone want to commit to someone they don’t care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:11 AM
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LOL this is hilarious because the rationale is that it's only ok if the guy is a billionaire and she can cheat. So that situation is only suited for hardcore gold diggers. I'm not sure how many billionaires you know but they don't accumulate their wealth by being naive. Meaning he knows you're there for the $ and would protect it at all costs. I've seen how that movie ends for women willing to date a man 30-40 years older to be taken care of and it's never ended well. Confusing post though so he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:08 AM
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Experience isn't a problem for grown men who aren't socially awkward or timid. The men who have experience also are not trying to take advantage of a woman in any financial / material was as you mentioned above. Desperate dudes are only that way because of personality traits that are turn offs and a general lack of social skills and confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:05 AM
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wow I'm a man and pussy doesn't provide any sense of validation for me. People actually can be into each other and have great chemistry. It's not uncommon as long as your type is attainable without any too bizarre,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:01 AM
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Disagree. If your dating history has been consistent with partners that were up to your standards but just didn't work out then that is a person who is rationale and has his history with partners to prove it. We all are looking for the right person but everyone has different standards. If you have NEVER dated a woman or man that meets your standards that's delusion. Truth hurts. By no means does a couple have to be equally attractive, successful, and be an equal match in every way to be a very h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:53 AM
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Desperate? That may be true for millennial or younger men who are unrealistic with their expectations and have no social skills. Swiping and using dating apps only to meet someone is common now, but anyone who is paying attention can see that people who do that (men & women) struggle with basic social skills. When you're out at a bar or social event and most people are glued to their phones because they don't know how to interact with people in the real world that's pathetic. I disagree with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:35 AM
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No you don't agree with me at all. Using the word "cringe" told me all I needed to know. Best of luck as you have a lot to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:48 PM
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If a man or woman consistently dates people that meet their standards (which is an absolute pre requisite to dating for me) then their expectations are not unrealistic they are reality. Taking a look at your dating history and understanding what "league" you're in based on legit previous relationships is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:39 AM
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Ok strong opinion here which absolutely, positively is not accurate for most men and definitely not all men as this post implies. #1 you have delusional men and women out there, which is becoming more prevalent with dating apps and social media, who feel entitled when it comes to dating because they are not self aware, don't look at their dating history / track record with relationships to understand what "league" they are in. In summary this epidemic of men / women buying into the nonsense bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:28 AM
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This is a first and I'll give you credit for creativity but wtf? All anyone had to read was "arranged marriages" and then to make it worse read "government issued"? Hard no my friend most people value the freedom they have, which isn't universal and consistent clearly but some of us are luckier than others to live in more free countries. Thoughts are...... it's disgusting and a hard no. No Government is ever getting involved in who I date or marry. If that's something you're looking for you're b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:54 AM
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Clearly the OP hasn't dated many women recently because my friends and I generally see the opposite. Out of all of the GF's I've had not one has been good with finances and leaned on me for help with retirement planning, understanding how to properly manage their $, and just in general. I have a few single friends all of whom are totally self sufficient and the opposite of the entire description above. Men like us who also know how to date properly aren't even looking for a finish line. It will …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:23 AM
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Is dating a competitive sport wherein there are winners and losers and anyone can be "put to shame"? I'm just outside of the demographic the OP is referring to and believe it or not, people of the Gen Z age range do date. It's whether the people in question (age doesn't matter) have any social skills whatsoever and even enjoy the company of other people vs. preferring to live through their phone that is the real question & problem. There is absolutely no "shame" whatsoever in being single.......…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:13 PM
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Yeah someone way over thought this one. No pill, no anger, normal interactions with real people is the answer to almost everything you read on here. That post takes the cake as the most overly intellectual & confusing one I have ever read but makes you question the mental stability of the OP. WTF is a "current neoliberal feminist-leaning postmodernist cultural institution"? There are dozens of answers to that question but guess what......productive people living there lives don't have time to in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:03 AM
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The assumption behind the question is false so invalidates it entirely. Are women (or men) entitled to whatever they deem to be the "best sex" at 1 point in their lives, and then change their minds as their sexual appetites develop? No is the answer. If you don't value a relationship then just be single and go bang out anyone and everyone, or a limited variety which can change at your whim. Go to town. However don't for 1 second think that being in a committed relationship and getting bored sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:50 AM
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Yeah as predicted my initial post was banned quickly because it had valid points. No linking to other specific posts (which was their reasoning) just Calling out patently false claims. Best of luck all
/r/MensRights27/11/25 08:25 PM
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Proving that pervasive hatred of men is justified wasn't the point at all. Misandry at its finest is on display here and I'm still shocked it's still posted. Thanks to Reddit for enforcing rules, but only if they fit a very specific narrative clearly. This is a theme on this app and has been for a long time and is yet never enforced.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 12:27 PM
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This is wild and blatantly violates the rules of this sub which I've reported. I can see others feel the same and have as well so let's see how long it takes to have this taken down. If the topic was flipped this would never even have been allowed to be posted. The mere fact that I find entitled people, who take pride in being as vocal as possible about their misandry and use hate speech repulsive will probably get me blocked before this hateful post. This really takes the cake in terms of blata…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 10:16 AM
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I absolutely can and when I said "you can't express an opinion or speak your ind without picking one" that's because the rules require that you literally pick, and be identified by a ridiculous "pill" ideology. Intelligent people realize when they're being forced into a limited set of beliefs with no room for dissent since you have to pick a "pill" to even post. You're required to pick one to express an opinion, and speak your mind or you won't be allowed on the thread. You know that I assume? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:04 AM
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Thank goodness.......because the entire premise behind forcing people to identify with a specific "pill" ideology is ludicrous in the first place. However you can't express an opinion or speak your mind without picking one which is the site's fault since it's a rule. I know exactly what sub I'm in and reject extreme pill ideology all together......hence why the purple pill, which is "neutral" seemed logical. This entire pill identification game, and requirement to post is nonsense. I'll make up …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:35 AM
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Why? The definition of it is a "neutral community" and and I am very much neutral. Hence why I call out any and all pop culture slang terms, or words specifically intended to be weaponized against any group whatsoever. I don't have the time to track the ridiculous bastardization of the English language with the sole the intent of spreading hate directed at specific groups. "the manosphere" is one of many such terms / words as you know I'm sure. As a "neutral community" this sub is intended to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:35 AM
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It's ok to call men "the manosphere" now? I know online women despise being referred to as female, which is accurate and in no way derogatory, and I've been warned by mods for using an accurate word. Interesting that mysogonistic language is tolerated. Meaning women are allowed to use such language. Ironic isn't it? What exactly do you mean by "normal experiences"? Yes people are bullied etc. and most men get over it. Many women, as clearly evidenced if you read the thousands of posts on here\, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:36 PM
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Hmmmmm. On ridiculous sites like this and on social media that's true. In the real world that is not true
/r/MensRights23/11/25 12:07 PM
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Not true. It's easy and I've done it many times you very simply don't speak to the woman again, block her on your phone, and end all contact. Sometimes a restraining order is needed as well which isn't hard speaking from experience. So no complaining gets a woman absolutely nowhere when you cut them off, unless you get a restraining order and they contact you then it can land them in jail! Clearly I have a different approach than the OP but either you tolerate nonsense or you don't. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 11:31 AM
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Pressure to get married after having sex once? I don't get it because as a child of divorce, and having dated enough I've learned the hard way what to look out for in terms of what is real vs. an ulterior motive. If you've never been in love, and I mean loved back equally, then I understand that you could convince yourself (as the guy) that it could work if she's insistent and pressuring you. Bummer all around. Also a few of the "tells" are: sense of urgency & pressure without passion, commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:32 PM
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WHOA! How did the OP go from asking about sleeping with someone to marriage, and then cooking and cleaning and not wanting to be there? The question skipped the entire dating process, which could be a few months or many years until a marriage could occur. I'm not sure where the OP lives and this may be a cultural difference but a woman shouldn't sleep with a man she isn't attracted to, and the same goes for men. HOWEVER just because you have sex doesn't mean there is an "end goal". If someone vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 01:07 PM
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Yes women do mature faster from a biological perspective. Look it up there are only hundreds of reliable medical resources confirming this just like the one below from Mayo. So yes when it's a biological fact that women generally mature slightly before men, which has been known for many decades, then your post is a fail from the start. Don't take my word for it check out the massive amount of verifiable medical data available to anyone that confirms your claim is false. What people decide to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:01 PM
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LOL so the vast majority of women are attractive while most men are not is the net of the OP's comment. Forget the nails, makeup and outfits a 1 is a 1 and a 10 is a 10 (male or female). Sorry but a 250 pound, unattractive woman with her nails done, who tries do dress hot does NOT get a date just as easy as ordering a pizza. In fact she'll spend her evening with the pizza not a man. The OP's post is just a hard no........I've been around the dating scene for decades and this assumption that all …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:34 AM
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Yes I could but you would disagree. Your post stating simps are a problem and then stating many simps are in relationships is contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:51 AM
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We'll never agree here. The new age insult terminology used to degrade men is growing rapidly and clearly you use that word, which is an insult clearly, just to stir up controversy without a clear definition. Make up your mind here?????? Men in relationships aren't a problem.....so many men in relationships, who are simps according to you, are not a problem otherwise women wouldn't date / marry them. Make up your mind. If simps were a problem they wouldn't be dating at all. Like I said treating …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:40 AM
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If you've spent a decent amount of time in the dating world, especially around materialistic & superficial women, then you've seen that their standards are set by pop culture, social media, and basically the entire Kardashian family. The complete shift in dating culture, which is a combo of social media and the prevalence of dating apps, is the new reality. Men who try too hard aren't the problem, as they'll never get attention anyway. However the OP's assumption that men treating women as thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:19 AM
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Love this debate question because the answer is so simple. While I'm not a die hard "hitting the wall" believer the statistics & dating app world would have us all believe that 80% of women believe they are high value enough to be with a top tier man (say 20% or even 10% of men). That math doesn't work, and never has. Let's repeat that........it isn't possible for 80% of women to be with the top 10-20% of men. However the dating apps and social media companies are laughing all the way to the ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:04 AM

Look up "perjury convictions" and you'll have a long list of convictions. You're false assumption that these types of situations, and accusations with no basis ,yet intent to cause harm, actually end up in court. The man sustains serious damage to his entire life with no repercussions for a woman who for whatever reason intentionally. When the police and DA etc don't even ending up filing charges after an investigation the damage is already done to the man. When she comes clean or is busted in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:18 AM

It does not matter if you're innocent that's the OP's point. The reputational damage and negative impact false accusations that are made public, usually for a purpose, create can never be undone. Yet there is never any retribution or vindication because the accuser will back down and change their story, or charges won't even be filed because the story is found to be a lie (i.e. on camera), or as we've seen accusers take it very far and admit to lying after a large media blitz. It's not as simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:02 AM
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That makes sense because you're in a relationship and have a very specific type should you 2 choose to engage with another person. That's reasonable. However statistically if you look it up when you have 5-10% of women responding or swiping on men on dating apps and 60-80% of men swiping that's a huge delta. The demographics and population hasn't changed that much so the math just isn't there if 90% of women are pursuing only the high value men at the top 20%. Mathematically impossible. "High va…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:36 PM
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Not sure on this. If Avg Joe dresses in sloppy clothes, doesn't exercise, and has bad hygiene he can do some shopping and dress well, work on his fitness, and clean himself up to the point that he'll look like a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:23 PM
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Understood but I'm not the guy that needs the advice or training. I have no clue how you could graduate from HS & hopefully college and not have the social skills to be able to engage in conversations with women. UNLESS the phone addiction (i.e. if you go to a bar, restaurant, nightclub etc. and everyone is looking at their phone) has gotten so bad that the ability to communicate in person has completely crumbled to the point that it's beyond repair for a certain demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:18 PM
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Read your first post above it says "There’s so many fat guys and I don’t understand it." so yes you did say that. I agree if you know how to take care of yourself, workout properly, eat well, AND have the time to do all of that it's achievable. If you're in school or have lots of free time and no responsibilities it's easier. OK this is interesting....you value being tan, which is terrible for your body's biggest organ (your skin), and fit which is great and healthy, both of which are things alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:22 PM
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Goes without saying that desperation, low self esteem and lacking confidence are not only unattractive but they're deal killers. How exactly do generations that think dating is all done through your phone, and are socially awkward because their lives exist through social media & dating apps learn those life skills? It takes real & in person human interaction to become confident, charismatic and relaxed which isn't the dating world anymore. Saying "Stop being desperate" doesn't tell them how to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:40 PM
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LOL you don't understand why there are so many fat guys when I just told you that's 75% of the country, and that there are just as many fat women? It's not a male / female issue it's an obesity epidemic and since I'm not dating men I'm not focused on their weights I have no idea how old you are, but the best skin care routine in the world will not stop the sun from taking its toll over time, or aging your skin quickly.....and skin cancer is very real. Do you use tanning beds? If I ever have a GF…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:13 PM
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Kind of but you assume incorrectly about some simple phrases. "good looking" and "physically attractive" are still synonyms and men don't differentiate between the two as you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:48 PM
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You know that about 75% of Americans are overweight right? It's not a male problem it's pervasive and more prevalent in certain parts of the country than others. Tanning is also the best way to expedite the aging process as well as get melanoma. I know a lot of 30 something women who look 50 because they spent way too much time in the sun, or tanning beds when they were younger. Careful with that one but spray tans can work. Final thought...... are you saying you don't like any mens cologne and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:32 PM
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Interesting because I hear the exact opposite from the vast majority of women I know. You see far more age gap relationships with younger women than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:20 PM
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Invisible? Not sure what you mean? Unless it's treating most men as though they are not even there and that you just don't interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:17 PM
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Great points but it's important for people to note that around 75% of Americans (depending on what data source you use) are overweight. So I'm not sure the "equal analysis" since it would apply to a minority of the entire population (at least on BMI) Sexual attraction is very individualized as you point out but there are a lot of people out there, hence the reason for this question I assume, that misunderstand or are delusional about their overall value in the dating world. I don't think there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:54 AM
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Forget Reddit for a second because that's what you mean when you say "guys here" I assume, but in an actual interaction with someone (man or woman) if you tell them they're "good looking" how is that different than saying "physically attractive"? They're synonyms and not one man I know "locks on" to the word attractive as a clear invitation to pursue something sexual. That's a perspective of someone who swipes more than they actually interact with potential dates.....which is exactly what is nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 11:04 AM
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Hide and stigmatized? This may be a HS discussion but people don't share their sex lives publicly and therefore don't get stigmatized for it. Are we all required to share our whole lives with everyone? That's the thought process behind a lot of these comments which is just wrong. The OP's question accused men who chase sex only as being pathetic etc. but forget that it's all highly personal. Just DO NOT let anyone bully you for it because they have no proof, it's against school rules I'm sure, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:38 AM

Disagree then. If you don't see the truth to this then you never will. If you have girlfriends who have limits on height, income, or other objective measurements then there's your math / statistics right there. You doh't refer to it in that way but it's absolutely common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:02 AM
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The OP stated the very specific statistics not me. The math in my response is my opinion and if you don't believe that men, and women, don't have standards that are related to some scale, or metrics they have then I disagree. THE STATEMENT you made is that no one cares at all about statistics when dating. OK well I know far too many women who won't date a man who makes less than X$ per year and is under 6' tall to keep it simple. That's a stat right there.......I have no idea what it is and don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:39 AM
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If they like to look at hot women maybe that’s their reason. It doesn’t have to be related to men picking up on these women. This assumption that every person is going to try and hit on every attractive woman out in any social atmosphere isn’t accurate. Many are too timid, and being a hot chick does not make you the center of attention with people lining up to hit on you no matter where you go. On the flip side I see hot chicks out with older men, clearly not on the same level physically, fairly…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:54 AM
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Why is everyone saying that people somehow know about their sex lives when the only way they would is if you told them? It's no ones business so don't talk about it. In the workplace if you're asked about stuff like that it's a form of harassment and quite illegal. A trip to HR relaying disparaging comments about your sex life doesn't go well. A persons sex life isn't something to be advertised or used to start a "movement". Whether or not you're a virgin does not make you some honorable and dig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:33 AM
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No one does it consciously in terms of specific stats but we all either have an initial attraction or we don't. Then socio-economic factors come in to play for many people (women mostly at least where I live and most women I interact with wherever I'm traveling). So if you're self aware enough to know where you stand as an overall package, and date people close to your same overall value in the dating world you should be fine. However it's the delusional people who may live in their parents home…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 AM
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Not true but women don't in my experience. I've heard countless lists of requirements from women which usually include "6'0 or taller", "must make $150K+ a year", "must be hot so like a 9" when these women are 7's with mediocre jobs and average in general. Women don't think about it but those few items limit them to about 5% or less of men. So why would a man that meet's those requirements and is, let's say a top 5% guy, go for a woman who is in the top 30-40% and take a significant step down? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:39 AM
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I’m not reading posts where men are saying sex is the only priority, and paramount, but it definitelyis more important to some than others. 20 something guys, and some a little older, are generally sex motivated because they’re young and exploring. And no society doesn’t t exist because of sex, children are made by having sex. There is a big difference there. Look up what was done to rural baby girls in China for centuries and tell me that the result of sex didn’t have societal consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:13 AM
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This is accurate for Gen Z for sure, but unfortunately the filters, photoshopping, and basically catfishing that 90%+ of women use on their profiles vs 45% of men creates an uneven playing field. The vast majority of women on apps compete based on how well they can fake their appearance. That's not the case for most men and personality has nothing to do with it. If you're a person who has low enough self esteem to fake their pics (i.e. heavily filtered) and think that will go well when you actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:51 AM
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Wrong. Show me stats that support even 1 assumption made in that question? Autistic, short, or less attractive men do not have a statistically higher rate of alcoholism. However given your disdain for men that you deem to be "low status" I would start drinking if I had to listen to you explain your opinion. Just like stay at home Moms often become pill popping alcoholics isn't an accurate stereotype, but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:37 AM
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Imposed? Best of luck re-writing evolution and human biology. One option is for men to be celibate which doesn’t work. The Catholic church and the massive number of priests involved in terrible acts is a good example of that…but also vile and criminal and pedophelia. Sorry bud but the arrogance it takes to pretend you’re smarter than Mother Nature (ie human biology and evolution) while trying to solve some perceived problem is laughable. Humans would become extinct if your wish came true. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:49 AM

You're confusing friendship vs sexual interest. If you're in the dating phase of your life and go out partying, to bars, or wherever, it's physical & sexual attraction mostly that even instigates an initial conversation if you don't know each other. Everyone is different, but once you get through your "party phase" then you've experienced enough to the point that you know what you want and know when you're wasting your time. Eventually women, more so than men, adjust what they find sexually appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:41 AM
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Hardly I grew up with Hammer. But if you grew up in the 90's, and are just now deciding that you need to learn how to dance in your 40's - 50's you missed your prime decades for showing of your moves and enjoying nightlife to the fullest. I was joking abut MC Hammer, but it seems you aren't so good luck with learning moves in a dance class that help you pick up at clubs. Just don't be delusional or expect hot women to be in your middle aged dance class. Whether they are there or not isn't your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:16 AM
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Think Napoleon Dynamite meets MC Hammer (if you don't know their dance moves look them up). Reach that status and hit a club, preferably dressed like Hammer, and crush the floor and you'll make friends. May want to check out the music they play first because you'll have to learn to bust those moves to EDM LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:40 PM
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If you're within 2 points (say a 6 & 8) I think it can work easily no problem. Average men where I live, where a massive amount of very beautiful women live as well, usually aren't confident enough to approach a striking woman. If women here are asked what they are looking for probably 80-90% say the same 2 things first..... wealth and height. Then comes looks and age, then kindness, intelligence etc. which usually aren't even mentioned in a casual conversation. This City is atypical though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:37 PM
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What are you talking about saying men need a spouse? Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:56 AM

70-80% of women (according to almost any research you look up so feel free) don't climax from vaginal intercourse alone which is what happens in the vast majority of casual hook ups. So do both people enjoy themselves? Probably. Statistically if almost all men are climaxing, while 20-30% of women are in a casual hook up, no toys, non dating situation that is the clear disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:16 AM
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Disagree I post on here fairly often and it's a "neutral community" based on the rules. So unless the rules are incorrect then facts play a part and are important if they need to be clarified many times if the question can even be taken seriously. However, if your intent is to troll and bait misogynists is that neutral? I stick to my original statement. In my world 99% of men do NOT FEEL Jealousy or Disgust towards women at all. The correct answer is still "Neither". That answer's not an option …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:06 AM
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Neither. The assumption that the question is based on isn't accurate at all for 99% of men I know???? So until I have a bunch of data proving that's true this is a question that can be answered. Making statements as though they are facts, then turning it into a question as though it applies to all men needs to be a true statement...... so all I can say is that if lying and not providing proof or evidence would irritate anyone who can read and has standards (i.e. expects the truth)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:39 AM
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That's true for some women who are usually bitter or jaded for some reason and simply can't comprehend why a seemingly normal, successful, handsome man hasn't been married. Answers vary but as a child who lived through a nasty divorce, and has grown up to see how financially damaging divorce is for men far more than women, as well as the fact that only about half of marriages survive, common sense would tell anyone to be very careful before making that leap. Speaking from experience I very inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:13 AM

That's an interesting opinion but what social psychologists are you referring to and where is the data backing up anything you're saying? People differ on their opinions of attractiveness widely clearly. for instance the friends referenced who rated a BF and GF on opposite scales tells us nothing? That's a subjective opinion from a few people about 1 couple, and not a consistent assessment across the dating spectrum throughout the country. I don't personally see a dating struggle other than amon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:10 AM
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"Unable to find" vs "difficult to find" are two very different things. It's simply untrue that neurodivergent men in general are unable to find a partner. Is it difficult given the very definition of neurodivergent? Yes. It's not a personality characteristic that is a positive one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:36 PM
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Agreed on many of these points but you're stereotyping as though your points are universal and apply to all men which is not the case. There are also multiple comments that are blatantly sexist and untrue, for instance " women have a life to live and they aren't NPC's" which insinuates that men have no lives and are NPC's?" You won't get many arguments from intelligent, respectful men who don't have a mental illness but there are multiple points here that simply aren't realistic or accurate. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:48 AM
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Ok based on that Chad is the guy women want to sleep with an then avoid like the plague because he's a player and philandering scum bag. In other words aside from sexual attraction that description is a man who won't give a shit about any woman other than how she can please him until he gets bored and moves on. Oh and if you're saying a Chad will intentionally procreate as much as possible with many women that's likely a mental disorder given that his biological wiring, which drives mens innate …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:38 AM
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Not following this....top tier men have been well aware of marriage laws and how wealth contributes to attraction as part of the whole equation from day 1. That's why many don't get married. Marriage isn't a requirement for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:08 PM
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Wow 2 week max 4 week rule if you're out of college and an adult. If you're not sleeping together within 2-4 weeks (unless for religious reasons) you're not that into each other. Different cultures and countries vary clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:58 PM
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Logos You're talking about women in general not him I assume?......I misread it and wrote this but there's nothing wrong with what he said so I'll post it. He said he wants to matter to her "a lot" and he would reciprocate equally. Sounds natural and good. Not easy to find though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:55 PM
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What's is the official definition of a "Chad"? You said Chad is noncommittal in general, or non monogamous etc. Where are you getting this because there are a lot of definitions that suit particular points of view and are not consistent. So I'm curious? I'm a no piller but SeemedGood is right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:41 PM
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There is no Chad or Stacy kiddos grow up and look up from your phones every once in a while. This is a serious technology & generational dating issue that's not going to get better as far as I can tell. I'll take a Megan Fox but Stacy? Why....and Chad? If you only meet dating prospects through your phone, and have social anxiety whenever in public then you fit the following description - "I don't know how to actually interact with people in the real world including dating"....... Oh I do have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 05:01 PM
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Short answer is yes I would face rejection, but my approach would not involve social media or dating apps whatsoever. I'm just old enough to have seen how dating apps, social media, as well as the death of face to face social interaction have totally changed the entire dating landscape in a very negative way. The dating scene is tough no doubt about it. However if you have a bit of experience, patience, and care about your life, health, success, and well being then you should be smart enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:11 PM
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Not true that’s when relationships fail. If you’ve never seen an attractive guy with no career or resources dating a friend of yours eventually the woman expects help and equal effort (which usually includes income) and then it falls apart when he can’t live up to whatever expectations she has. You described a sugar mama
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:46 PM
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It's a myth? Wow so the NIH & May Clinic and every respected and established medical institutes with the brightest researchers are wrong and you're right? You can look it up it takes 2 minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:32 AM
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OK so when I opened a door for 3 girls at a busy restaurant and they told me "We didn't need your help or your toxic masculinity" very loudly I didn't have many options. I could've slammed it shut on the last one walking in but that's not me. However it was so loud that the hostess & Manager heard it and thought there was an issue so came to check on me and apologized. I didn't say one word to those women either. In the US we're entitled to freedom of speech so how exactly can I stop anyone from…
/r/MensRights15/06/25 02:11 PM
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Correct. Being told by women that they "don't need my toxic masculinity" for holding open a door at a restaurant is a great example for me of how the phrase is so misused as an insult to men even if it doesn't apply. You hear it more and more as an incorrectly used insult that's a good indicator that someone is a misandrist. Similar to women who throw around the word "incel" as an insult when the person has an active sex life. The truth and using the word correctly does not matter to many women.…
/r/MensRights15/06/25 02:05 PM
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I asked this exact question and it was taken down given the large contingent of people on Reddit who love using that phrase, or words like incel when they are in no way applicable. Toxic masculinity is a term quite a few women use when they have an issue with a man for various reasons. I also never received 1 response to a question I asked which was "If so many men are apparently toxically masculine what is "admirable masculinity"? Crickets......meaning that thread was loaded with people who had…
/r/MensRights15/06/25 01:56 PM
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Jesus once again you're writing fiction that is unrelated to my comment. My sex / procreation comment did NOT EVEN MENTION CHILDREN? My comment also said "People across the globe". You responded saying I made that comment about myself and what I value? Never said that (4th example of fiction). That was an Irrelevant response and unrelated to my comment. No for the 5th time it's not about feelings. How can I be more clear on that? I was very clear it's about financial and legal responsibility. Ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:39 PM
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I have never, and would never change my preferences for any reason as it's my choice. This relatively new phenomenon of women openly making disparaging comments to men they don't know for anything from opening the door for them (I was told by 3 girls that they didn't need my toxic masculinity in that case) to taking offense at a man saying hello even though you don't know them has gotten out of hand. The only thing that has changed is I will know very quickly if a woman is kind and a decent pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:16 PM
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Idk what you’re talking about relative to timing. People across the globe are going to keep having sex for pleasure, as opposed to strictly for procreation so the idea that all sex has the intent of “knocking her up” is ludicrous. You asked why should a man care about whether he’s going to be a Father? (Ie DNA test). That’s a silly question. Legal and financial obligations are an easy 2 answers. Once again to repeat myself….the parents feelings do not matter. If a man can walk from his financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:54 PM
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You're making no sense. The feelings of the parents don't matter the well being of the child does. Any man should have not problem with demanding a paternity test. Clear enough? This isn't an emotional or sex based comment. My feelings and pride do NOT matter. So once again to answer the question......... it is not offensive to ask for a paternity test
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 12:49 PM
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Idc about the parents feelings I care that children are taken care of by their actual parents. The vast majority of sex is for pleasure not procreation so don’t be deluded and think anyone who has sex is doing so to get a woman “knocked up”. Not reality in 2025. So if it’s unplanned and happens and someone wants to question paternity I see no issue whatsoever. The priority is the child and parental accountability not someone’s “feelings”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:58 PM
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This is hilarious because anyone with common sense would be be certain, however they had to do it, once they knew the woman was pregnant. It’s a legal requirement for a father to be obligated financially for his child. It’s not the potential dad’s requirement to ask her permission to confirm what he is legally obligated to pay for for 18 years before having sex. Intentional or not if there’s any question get the test done. This BS about it ever being offensive to be 100% sure is nonsense because…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:03 PM
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If you’ve spent more than 20 minutes on sites like this you’ll see that many , many people have problems with involuntarily celibate people “incels”. It’s unfortunate that it’s a term used, and an insult without having any idea as to the truth in most cases. So clearly a lot of women, and many men have problems with both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:43 AM
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Who said that men who don’t have kids don’t have a sex drive? I’m proof of that comment being false. Men who don’t have kids likely have a higher sex drive than their married buddies with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:18 AM
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English is my first language my friend. When someone makes a comment like yours that states "watch them bleed" it makes a rationale person question your sanity. Yes any person can claim anything .....but I open doors for people in general I don't care what their gender is..... it's just common courtesy. Yes women make false claims I'm well aware of that. As the OP stated, and the question itself was based upon, constructive discussions should be the point here but the intent has not been achieve…
/r/MensRights04/06/25 04:46 AM
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What are you saying exactly? That holding open a door at a restaurant is related to witnessing someone being assaulted and somehow being involved? Self defense is very different than someone who thrives on physical aggression and beligerent behavior based upon a bizarre opposition to common courtesy. Your comment stating "watch them bleed and tell them you didn't want to be toxic" makes no sense whatsoever.
/r/MensRights03/06/25 09:03 AM
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Good info but if you're not the beneficiary of the Trust, which would be the point in my opinion, then you couldn't get your assets out unless the Trustee was in your pocket. I don't agree, atleast in the US, that prenups can just get thrown out unless poorly written by a bad lawyer. The situations I dealt with involved mediation (as most prenups do) and the woman received far more than the prenup clearly intended but it wasn't a judge that decided. It was the mediator since those documents are …
/r/MensRights02/06/25 01:30 AM
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Sure it is but as a child of divorce and having dealt with multiple family trusts, as well as prenups there are significant differences. A parent / grandparent can put any inheritance in a Trust and if you're the benficiary, and any spouse is excluded that has worked in my experience and the beneficiaries were in 3 different states when that trust was put to the test. However I can't speak to setting up a trust for your own assets, for your benefit, to provide the same protection a.prenup should…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 09:23 PM
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In the US you want a rock solid prenup (which they never are but you can try) but more importantly any assets you have, or family inheritance you may receive, or net worth you have before the marriage should be in the prenup as those aren't marital assets. The courts almost always can't touch money / assets / inheritance that had nothing to do with her before you got married if you have a good prenup. Once you're married though, and I'm speaking from experience, don't expect the prenup to be roc…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 01:24 PM
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A trust? If you set it up after your married that's part of the marital assets I'm pretty sure?
/r/MensRights01/06/25 01:19 PM
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Your post uses Chris Brown, a convicted woman beater, as a positive reference saying his violence against women means nothing because he is still adored. If using a woman beater to make your point isn't promoting his behavior (i.e. violence against women) then why use him to.make your point? It's very very clear to anyone that can read
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:14 PM
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Flat wrong own that one the cue would be limited to boys and idiots. I wouldn't go within miles of her. Nor would any grown man. Maybe you're thinking about kids under 25 who don't even have a fully developed pre frontal cortex or are just derelicts. Megan Fox maybe LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:56 PM
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Misandry and toxic masculinity and calling men with active sex lives "incels" are acceptable and promoted by many women. Accuracy be damned I hear it a lot out in public if you're around a certain age demographic. I opened a door (common courtesy) for a group of young women who hesitated, then walked in and said "we don't need your help or your toxic masculinity" in a crowded public place. As a gentlemen I kept my mouth shut but the Hostess and Manager heard them and came to check on my party an…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 12:50 PM
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Went down a rabbit hole with this one as it’s not relevant to the question. Stay on topic and feel free to start your own discussion about your concerns
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 09:46 AM
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You're a proponent of men like Chris Brown since they're adored apparently, and you said guys like him make women "wet". So habitual abusers of women according to you make chicks hot. You said it man not me I didn't jump to any conclusions.......read what you wrote dude. wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:29 PM
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Do you date women or even know what you're talking about? Since "nice means nothing in dating" you must prefer fights with unwilling people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:11 PM
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Taking notes from the OP because this entire dating strategy will, and has resulted in being arrested and likely charged with crimes....#1 If you're confident, attractive, and have some game, let's use Chris Brown since he was mentioned, then assaulting females is a turn on for them? Ladies are you attracted to men whom you know have physically abused women and just don't give a fuck? #2. If a men can "let go of their stunted delusions and focus on making themselves more attractive with no consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:03 PM
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OK his comment about a warped "world view" and sending a story about a horrific event in New York tells me all I need to know. If you have some knowledge of how women are treated around the world I'd think that stoning women to death in very strict Muslim countries for adultery (Iraq & Iran I believe but more based on the muslim extremists who live around these women), and just the general treatment of women in the majority of the world would be a point he would make. The US is a fantastic place…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 07:42 PM
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This was a stranger? I think at some point talking to a professional will be helpful and that was an illegal assault / rape so she should be in jail. The difference in age is delicate because I've had 2 friends, very close to me, who were essentially snuck up on while in bed and put in situations where they said no multiple times, but also could have easily thrown the woman off of them or stopped it, but they just gave in. They both struggle with whether or not it was technically rape because it…
/r/MensRights25/05/25 06:18 AM
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OK I didn't know you were that young and I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's more than rape it's statutory rape I didn't know you're 13 years old. I hope you have someone you can talk to about it and are working through this because it's fairly fresh. This topic is very complicated and can wait for you because we can't control how other people react and act. I addressed you thinking you were an adult as well so my apologies and I hope you don't dwell on this issue. I sincerely wish you the…
/r/MensRights25/05/25 02:12 AM
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You said "freedom to do and live wherever they want". The post also specifically says "find a partner pretty much anywhere in the world"? I think you're overestimating the intellect of the average person. Anyway I don't really understand your post because of what I've already explained plus the fact that I've been to 27 countries, am single and have prospects and a solid job, continue to travel a lot internationally and meet tons of people. I don't see single women in their 20's - 40's doing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:56 AM
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Exactly. Real example - 2 ppl hook up all is good, they make plans to hang out again, talk for a couple days then an ex bf finds out what happened and is furious and the woman gaslit herself to avoid his wrath knowing the truth. It’s common. If you wanna go bang someone do it and own it…..the delayed post hookup regret, or cheating guilt, or whatever reason they concoct should have consequences if reported and proven to be false.
/r/MensRights25/05/25 01:18 AM
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There is 0 accountability for false allegations and has been the case for decades. Even with no charges filed at all any press attention (which is common) does the damage. I 100% know and agree with this part but don’t agree that women are afraid of men generally, however if they have experienced trauma they will rightfully be cause and need some therapy to get back to normal
/r/MensRights25/05/25 01:06 AM
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Trauma that causes ptsd which happens when a person is violently assaulted or abused over time is a condition that needs treatment and doesn’t just go away on its own. It’s not as simple as deciding “I’m just gonna move on” so you’re over simplifying the issue. Every case is different but I’ve dated women who had been violently assaulted in their past but they didn’t hat men they needed to feel comfortable and safe. If certain men trigger a memory and create fear that’s the human brain going int…
/r/MensRights25/05/25 01:00 AM
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Afghanistan is the only 3rd world country in the Middle East same with SE Asia (meaning there are very few that are 3rd world), although Africa is a different story. The post was a blanket statement which just isn’t true everywhere. If the intent was for the US is tweak the post. Easy change
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:33 AM
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I've consistently dated up by a couple digits but if you're talking about just hooking up then younger guys, mostly, will sleep with anything. Some men do it their whole lives and just want to be man whores. The bar is low for many guys just looking to get laid, and gets lower if they're drinking & bar hopping. However look around in the US, atleast bigger cities where there is a concentration of wealth and successful enterprise, and see if you generally see men married, or seriously dating wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:57 PM
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I'd go to Saudi Arabia to visit no problem but I'm a man. Just pointing out the fundamental flaw & incorrect statement in the post because no place is off limits based on the statement women's ability to attract men will provide them "more freedom to do and live wherever they want". I'd say in somewhere between 1/4 - 1/2 of the world that statement would be false. Spend some time in the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia and let us know how much freedom women have in general especially their abili…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:32 PM
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By tons of happy families you'll have to be more specific. Of the roughly 50% of marriages that last in the US what % are happy & loving and still married at all? let's be generous and say 25%. So that math equals 87.5% of marriages either fail or aren't happy and the happy part is just my rough guess not a fact. No one should settle ever. The logic above is so flawed it was like reading a fairy tale because stats and numbers don't lie. Your friends and social circles do their best to fake being…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:11 PM
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Go to Iran, Afganistan, and Saudi Arabia with that attitude and see how that works. Pack the appropriate attire and don't expect an education, or to be able to speak much, but hey. Women's freedom to do what they want and live wherever they want is limited to countries that respect women's rights. That question is a generalization from someone who has not done a lot of traveling or seen places where women aren't free to do and live as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:38 PM
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lol so top men are guys who get a woman off? That’s new. Most women define a top tier man as successful, attractive, loyal but ive never heard that as a requirement for being top tier. Oh and every woman has a different taste in men so rope tier means something different for ladies in general if you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:53 AM
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lol if you can’t detect the sarcasm there is no can’t explain anything in a way you’ll understand. I’ll try one last time and we can be done. There is a difference between real life and Reddit. I don’t waste time reading fictional content or arguments based on people’s imaginations. Pretty straight forward hope that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:14 PM
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That was a response to you commenting that my feedback based on real life isn’t applicable or some nonsense. Sounded like you believe, and prefer to discuss fiction etc (ie conspiracy theories). I don’t. Reality matters to me. You cut and paste my response without context since your previous post isn’t visible. Anyway fine example of playing games and I don’t care where you are online if you spend most of your time behind a screen you’ll never even understand what “real world” means
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:01 PM
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Conspiracy? I was standing there it happened. Not far fetched. And yes I know Quora is not Reddit my point was you’re writing as though what people write and read here has no basis in reality and is intended to be fantasy. I could not disagree more. I’ll call out lies if I see them too. I prefer facts not fantasy and the rude girl and opening a door event happened. I was very clear that’s happened to me once. No conspiracy. But I do get out and interact with the real world which isn’t your thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:45 PM
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Sleeping with someone or casual dating are not the same as a long term commitment though. I just don't see very many of these statements the OP mentioned about women (or men for that matter) to "do better"? I could understand it if your religious beliefs or cultural background have led you to believe that having sex with someone without a serious, long term commitment to them is wrong but that's just not typical in 2025. It hasn't been the norm for many decades. The concept of "women's standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:26 AM
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Oh I was unaware that Redditt, Quora etc are intended to debate fiction and hypotheticals with no accountability for how we all interact in real life. I’m not on this enough to see what you clearly are, but reality is more important, and relevant than internet chat. If your concern isn’t based in reality, or the men you are referring to having a real perception of those claims and living them, then this is all fiction and a waste of time. I wasn’t aware that Reddit is intended for debates betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:53 AM
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"these guys" meaning actual inches (involuntarily celibate?). That term is used whenever a woman just wants to be cruel and usually doesn't apply. They'll say it to a guy at a bar who's in front of them in line just to be bitchy, they'll say it if a confident, normal guy approaches them and they don't deem him worthy (even if they're 7's and so is he). Every single time I've heard that word used out in public it did not apply. Meaning someone in our group would know the guy who was insulted and …
/r/MensRights11/05/25 12:15 PM
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Never said I had the same experience as you at all. I'm also not criticizing you this is a healthy discussion. Wherever anyone is saying "women choose better" let me know because I've only read it a couple times but I'm sure there's places dedicated to it. You're also right that men tend to be more violent and abusive hence why I said "I'm not buying the one sided argument". I don't think it's even, but this post sure makes it sound like this is a completely one sided problem and men are terribl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:41 AM
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Thoughtful response. What I find hilarious is the times I've heard that word used in public directed towards a man it has always been baseless because I have known men called an "incel" by some woman who simply wanted to dress him down and embarrass him. Truth be damned because I've heard it used towards men I know are having sex, and aren't bitter, but do something a woman doesn't like for whatever reason and out pops "incel"? It's not even used correctly but many women don't care.....it's abou…
/r/MensRights11/05/25 09:22 AM
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When I wrote "you can see them coming" it was right after the sentence stating you should see violent people coming who have any history. If you know they have a violent past you can see them coming was what I was saying. In terms of your situation? You could do absolutely nothing. It's not your fault. Your situation isn't about perfecting the art of picking a man / woman issue. If we were good at it half of marriages wouldn't end it's very simple. Some people change for many reasons as life get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:33 AM
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So what? Guess what good guys want to get laid too these defined terms are used as though men are split into different species because of how they approach dating or sex. I don't see this "women should choose better" commentary anywhere but if a guy is saying that it's probably not one you want to be talking to. That being said if anyone (man or woman) chooses to date a violent person who may have been arrested and is very clearly not a kind human being that's on them. You can see them coming an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:56 AM
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Good lord what men are you hanging around who make those complaints in the real world? I've never heard a guy say any of those things although I have heard guys ask their GF's or dates to watch porn. Not an angry threat though? Must be statements online / fantasy land.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:46 AM
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No rational woman who actually wants children waits through their most fertile, healthy years to do so. Now I get that many want children when they can see the end of the road approaching for it to be more simple, healthy and natural but whose fault is that? Yes IVF is common but the point is why wait until you're 40+ to try and have kids when we all know it's more complicated, difficult, risky, etc etc etc and especially for the woman. Personally I know women who have gone the surrogate route s…
/r/MensRights05/05/25 06:06 AM
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I haven’t met a ton but it’s becoming more and more common as women are either waiting to have kids, or not having them at all, as well as many firmly believing that it’s just as possible, healthy, and wise to wait until they’re almost menaupasel to have a child. That’s medically inaccurate but hey we’re free to ignore science and female biology and do what we want in this realm. However irrational the facts do not resonate with those with that mindset
/r/MensRights05/05/25 04:58 AM
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What you want vs should do needs an objective basis by which to provide an answer. So look up the age when women who conceive are what’s called a geriatric pregnancy and the risk factors increase quickly after that because women have a literal clock ticking…..men on the other hand do not have an expiration date for having kids. Are men as virile at 45 as they were when they were 25? No but the risks of a 45 year old man having a baby with a 25-30 year old woman are significantly less than a 45 y…
/r/MensRights05/05/25 04:50 AM
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Some do so that’s not accurate. To be clear though if you choose to date a single Mom you’re actually now in a relationship with 3 ppl…..her, the kid and the kids Father in most cases. That’s just one concise and rational reason why it’s more difficult for single Moms to date
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:16 PM
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For those of us who are successful, date around and choose to not commit its pretty simpleZ. If you have intellect and know about half of marriages don’t survive and of those 80%is are ended by the woman is that winning math? Oh and calculate half of your life leaving with her too. Stats don’t lie and generally speaking, statistically what’s the benefit for a man who is successful, can date as he pleases, and maybe even have a child with someone to get married? No financial benefit statistically…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:23 AM
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No your point was that "gender wars are the norm". That word "norm" stands for normal which is human interaction daily and I don't experience a gender war daily, nor does anyone I interact with. So the "norm" is our living, breathing, day to day life. We do not live on social media so that's not the norm, and I have only heard the word "incel" being used in public a few times. We have a different view on whether living your life online is normal? Or is living a real life while not staring at a s…
/r/MensRights04/05/25 06:53 AM
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Gender wars are the norm now? Maybe on social media / onlone since being dramatic and getting attention is the goal, but in real life that’s a big stretch. Ppl don’t want to read about guys who get laid, date, and have their lives together. Many ppl despise the thought of that so insulting all men using “incel” as a common insult, which usually doesn’t apply, is wrong.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 08:32 AM
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This is all very obvious. Idk where these guys bitching, that are being referred to, are posting because I don’t see much. Common sense answers this one…..no Disney or video game reference needed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:19 AM
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Only time I've ever even heard something like that in public so we're in agreement. Very rare deal. Singular occurrence in my life. I can also make up random shit online and if I wanted to waste time doing that it would be a lot more dramatic and entertaining. Hate to break it to you but some people are rude, disrespectful, and just have a dislike for other people based on their sex regardless of how that person treats them.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 06:13 AM

LOL no dude "baby daddies" are dudes who essentially had an accidental kid. It's not a complimentary phrase nor one that implies the dude sleeps with the woman still, much less goes on dates with her. Aidsvictims comment is just not accurate at all. The insinuation that ugly chicks easily date across the board is patently false. Why would women who are 2-3's have an easier time dating than a man who is moderately attractive & successful (6-8)? I understand the rhetoric I see from people that mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:46 AM
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What is polite and will satisfy female feminists while in a busy public restaurant? IF any person gets upset because a stranger is being kind in a social, public setting that's their own psychological problem plain and simple. No we won't have to "learn that", or any set of rules that a small part of the population would like to be applied to them only. I wrote the question! That has only happened once to me it's not common. But hey if you believe that society in general has to "learn" how femin…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:51 AM
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It 1000% is not sexist, or toxic, nor does it have to do with masculinity. That 1 incident happened to be with women and I open doors for people in general because it's respectful and show's that you have manners. I'm at a total loss as to why a very small number of women are defending the deplorable behavior I was unfortunately directly involved with. As I've said other than that situation I have never had a female friend, acquaintance, or even stranger complain about a man being respectful and…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 06:41 AM
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Yeah this is an age gap situation because I don't know a single adult who is offended by referring to women as females, ladies, girls, gals etc. etc. Grown ups just aren't that sensitive. Just like holding a door open for any person is in no way a sign of "toxic masculinity", or calling a man a guy, or a dude, or a male is in no way offensive to emotionally mature adults. On a very honest note I appreciate where you're coming from, but am not convinced that you know that there are plenty of very…
/r/MensRights22/04/25 03:46 AM
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I asked because I wanted an answer to my question. Instead I read a response saying that a man using the word "female" makes him toxic apparently, and is also somehow related to Star Trek. I've seen horrific altercations and disagreements in the bar scene over the years so this was just bizarre. The hostesses and some wait staff heard it all as well and were also very confused...........But if you only find the use of the word "female" offensive about that whole explanation we just have complete…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:08 PM
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No I'm agreeing that common courtesy (i.e. opening a door, or holding open a door for someone) is neither toxic nor masculine necessarily it's a sign of respect and kindness. That's it. And once again.....thank you
/r/MensRights21/04/25 09:39 PM
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LOL this is the only time this has ever happened to me and opening a door, then walking through it isn't a game or a sporting event. This cracks me up. We were in front of these women and I know someone who tried to close a door while people were trying to walk in, to a public establishment , and he was charged with assault by those people. So for those of you who recommended just not being a gentlemen or showing any common courtesy and just closing the door that's absolutely the wrong approach.…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 09:27 PM
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Just like every time I open a door when entering a restaurant or store I’m letting myself in and I hold the door a little for those behind me. Not toxic. No need to over analyze how I let myself into a restaurant I just walked in.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 06:02 PM
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Not a single female friend or acquaintance of mine has ever said in over 30 years that they hate it when someone opens the door for them. Not once.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 05:56 PM
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none of it is toxic
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:38 PM
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Manners do not depend on context. Manners depend on you. You have them or you don't and if you're an asshole in certain situations but a nice guy in others you're a fraud. That's a bad thing I assume you understand. I'm still waiting for you to tell me how we were rude for walking into a busy restaurant and holding the door open for women behind us? Nothing about it was toxic at all. You don't seem to like men at all so nice chatting with you. If you girls want to open all of your doors, and get…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:38 PM
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OK well there are 2 options.....leave the door open or close it. You don't have to slam it I agree. This is a 3rd grade ridiculous discussion you realize that? Have you been to a busy restaurant? Does each party have to enter totally separately? If those ladies wanted to wait outside and were actually offended they could have said "we're going to wait". Very simple. But they didn't. We showed common courtesy! You're not going to win this one because we did absolutely nothing wrong and definitely…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:27 PM
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Interesting.....what have you seen of the world outside of the US? I would love to know what city you live in where common courtesy is frowned upon. If you're suggesting that this one instance is common place you're the only person on this thread that has that opinion so please clarify. Also since I don't understand the world that means you're very worldly so how many countries have you visited
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:21 PM
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It's my question I'll post what I want. Logistically speaking if I am walking ahead of people (men or women) into a crowded restaurant and open the door should I hold open the door for the next few people or slam it in their faces? You're comments suggest I shut it in people's faces which is not only rude but dangerous. But to be clear you're saying it's better to slam a door shut in a woman's face than be a gentleman? I'm not complaining I'm clarifying......oh and it's my question so for a 2nd …
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:14 PM
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No dude it was a random group of 3 I'm not saying it's common.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:10 PM
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Bull shit on that. Look up the definition of the word. No time for snowflakes changing definitions to suit your emotional state. You'll grow up someday and understand.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 02:02 PM
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Sweet so you were there and I'm a liar? Only time it's happened to me. Prove me wrong.......oh and remember I was there
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:48 PM
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I know this and the moderator changed my question. My question was supposed to read WTF is wrong with a culture and society wherein some women amuse themselves by insulting men for any and every reason publicly with absolutely no basis? Read some of the comments defending that behavior it blows my mind......
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:44 PM
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Read a few of the responses with people defending that behavior......that's more shocking than the incident to me! I'll just slam doors in peoples faces if women are so offended by men holding them open. That's the tone a few women are taking in their responses so be careful what you wish for......unreal
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:39 PM
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No it was three women and this is the only time it's ever happened to me. It was funny to me but boy were they dramatic
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:37 PM
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I'm blown away that a couple people are defending these women. We can all be toxic and slamming the door in their face would've done the trick but I'm not that guy. This is black and white there is no argument here they were in the wrong and amused by it too
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:33 PM
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Never suggested that. I was in front of multiple women and held the door open. That's a ludicrous claim and that's the only time in my life I've heard a comment like that. Not normal or acceptable. If you want toxic we can all be toxic but this situation isn't even on the radar for a weird comment like that.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:29 PM
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I don't give a shit if it's a man or a woman....if I'm in front of you walking into a restaurant would you prefer that I walk in and slam the door in your face or hold it open? These are things we learn as children and are basic acts of kindness for fellow human beings. It wasn't toxic at all. If you want men to slam a door shut in public places so the next person can be independent and prove their worth then that's the exact mindset that is counterproductive to having a civil, kind and friendly…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:25 PM
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You're in the habit of degrading yourself when you've done absolutely nothing wrong? I have self respect so that's not going to happen. Just to be clear. You're telling me I should have said I'm an idiot for walking through the door in a busy restaurant and holding it open like anyone with common courtesy would do? Who the fuck are you and how were you raised because having manners is never something I will apologize for much less insult myself over? Would you open the door quickly and slam it i…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 01:17 PM
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lol I didn’t know them at all. Total strangers so no date vibe situation. That’s why it was messed up
/r/MensRights21/04/25 12:06 PM
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It did to me hence the post. I didn't give a shit at the time until they got a bit loud and it drew attention (with no basis at all) and made my dinner weird because of the dumb as attention they drew. Whatever it's an idiots low level insult to get a rise but there was 100% nothing toxic about opening that door and holding it for them. Slamming it in their faces may have been but now what actually happened
/r/MensRights21/04/25 11:39 AM
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It's not meaningless in public when it's directed at you loudly. It didn't matter that I just held a door open......all anyone heard was their brief ranting. That was common courtesy....period.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 11:33 AM
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It was a vocal, deliberately loud insult for no reason. That wouldn't bother you? It bothered the patrons and manager enough to come talk to me. Sure I could say what I mentioned above but where I live in the US that's very likely to have you asked to leave. It's a double standard. My experience at dinner was less fun because of that drama and the subsequent reactions. To clarify since people seem to be confused I was first to the door, opened it, and let them walk in. I was first and showed com…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 11:01 AM
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I want other peoples opinion because I was called that when I opened a door. Very simple. I see answers saying yes because it assumes they can't open a door. So people disagree with us. I know my verty strong opinion but clearly others don't all agree. That's why I asked
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:51 AM
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"the treatment of other people with courtesy and politeness" is the definition of good manners. You could've looked it up very easily? There are cultural differences around the world but my incident was in the US. Punching someone in the face for no reason, or cursing at children, or just having no class are all good examples.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:48 AM
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Thank you! Totally irrelevant comment other than to publicly berate a man using terms that are trigger points for so many people.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:38 AM
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Agreed. Look below though someone actually said common courtesy (holding a door) insinuates that they aren't capable of doing so and is therefore offensive. Anyone who finds that offensive needs a lesson in what rude & offensive behavior actually is
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:34 AM
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Are you serious? I was in front of them and opened the door and let them walk in. Such a bizarre comment because my options were to open the door and hold it, or open it, walk in, and slam it in their faces. These sensitive young women would absolutely lost it if I had slammed the door closed and then it would've been a different complaint. mrkpxx if you think everyone should open their own door in a public place, and not have manners or understand common courtesy then you have grudge that has b…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:32 AM
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Ok so in what way does opening a door make a man toxically masculine? Based on your comment I could have yelled at them and said "you're welcome misandrist bitches" and that would be ok. If you think a woman saying to a man, in public, loudly, that she doesn't need his "toxic masculinity" has no meaning then you have never witnessed it. It has significant meaning otherwise the manager wouldn't have come over to me and said something even though I didn't say one word.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:20 AM
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Well bud I won't change my personality, or manners as a result of angry millennial chicks who probably filmed it looking to boost their social media profiles focused on taking down the patriarchy. It was nonsense and it will change nothing about who I behave, however they will say that to the wrong person and see what toxicity actually is very quickly
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:14 AM
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LOL you do you....I open doors for people when I can it's common courtesy I don't care if it's a male or female. "look at their asses"? Really"
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:01 AM
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More laughable than bad but yes I agree. Their motive was clear and also completely without merit but they made sure everyone within ear shot heard.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 10:00 AM
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You wouldn't care if you were very vocally, and aggressively berated for opening a door to the point that it draws attention from a crowd and affects how you are treated at a restaurant? Are you a doormat? As is usual when multiple women scream at a man in public it reflects poorly on him regardless of what they are babbling about. So yeah pal I care when I'm berated in public because a growing segment of society find it amusing to treat men like shit in loud, obnoxious was for doing nothing wro…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 09:58 AM

really? straight man here but I have enough female friends and hear them talk about celeb crushes etc. and have never heard that name come up. But you just proved that we all have our preferences that can be outside the box sometimes, especially women imo. Guys are much more consistent than women in that sense.....hot is hot and we all generally agree (atleast more so than women).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:33 AM
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Probably around 15, but around 10 successfully just for coffee or something casual although I don't do the bar scene anymore. 10 years ago the dating scene at bars was different and it was common, and in fact normal to have respectful, typical conversations with people you don't know without worrying about being insulted. Case in point I've gone out to dinner and as a gentleman, and a man who believes in common courtesy, I held open the door for a group of girls (without saying one word) and was…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:02 AM
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Sure and I'm not talking about finding dates or getting laid at all. Women are more selective (most atleast) which anyone who has dated, and has friends who you've seen date over time knows. I don't buy into this pill stuff though hence the "no pill" flair although these debates are interesting sometimes. I'd have to question you on what a "competent man" is though because with a divorce rate of about 50% in the US and 70%+ of them initiated by women are they really picking the most "competent m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:49 AM
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True but my point was if you don't use social media or dating apps at all (like me). Social media was created and exists to feed on the weakest and most vulnerable parts of the human psyche. It's all a business specifically designed to benefit from our worst characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:26 PM
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Partially true but the flaw in this post is that all women with the ability to procreate are magically predisposed to contribute the genetic material that will create an intelligent, healthy child who will hopefully be a productive member of society. For example 75%+ of Americans are obese which leads to a multitude of health issues and a shorter life span. So your argument that females are all somehow genetically equipped tp produce healthy, smart babies is absolutely false. Forget men for a mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 02:03 PM
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Hard no, and disagreement on the comment "all men are universally repulsed by the idea that their woman has had sex with another man". That's just a patently false statement considering I'm a man and don't feel that way at all. Some men, especially from specific cultural & religious backgrounds, won't even consider a woman who isn't a virgin but that is abnormal thinking in the US atleast. This is 2025 not 1930.....meaning sex is a part of dating and not reserved for marriage for the vast majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:13 PM
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You're conveniently not mentioning the significant number of men who don't use apps or the internet to for dating. We prefer reality not a computer screen or phone. The REAL questions men who actually complain about giving up on dating, and only do it online are 1) Are you socially awkward and lack confidence to the point that you won't interact with real people and just prefer the virtual world? That's a self esteem issue. Emotionally mature men don't rely on social media, apps or anything with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:43 AM
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Wait so ugly, fat, single mom, druggie women (as the OP described) have a very easy time dating? In what world? Or maybe I should say in what city or country because I've never seen that dynamic in any country I've ever visited or lived in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:13 PM
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I'm not confused at all.....he says he gets laid and you're in no position to refute that claim so "incel" doesn't apply at all. I already explained that a lot of what he mentions can, and does happen based on experience but isn't common.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:01 AM
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You confirmed he doesn't have sex and is an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:37 PM
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I don't think his experiences are fake it's not that uncommon, but you have to consider the socioeconomic component and what type of women he's hanging around with. Some social circles are loaded with women who like bad boys and that's their type, while there are plenty of women who are more traditional and aren't going to sleep with you on the 1st night. Not an unreasonable commentary. I also personally know several women who had kids, got bored as a housewife and did what the OP described so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:25 PM
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You're assuming attractive men have some obsession with getting laid immediately or something which may be true for guys who haven't grown up yet and will have sex with anything. But using your Tinder example a guy will exhaust all options in his desired group of women (attraction wise) and the 5 will be last resort if he really wants to just get laid. Plenty of women on Tinder are just looking for hookups and many are attractive so it's not all that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:17 PM
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The OP hit the nail on the head perfectly and the truth is there has been a cultural shift that social media, dating apps, and pop culture in general has created wherein every woman (especially younger women) truly believe they are 10's and social influencers and high value in the dating market even if they're a 5. When you completely alter your appearance using filters to post pictures of yourself it's pretty funny to many men because why would you want to deliberately be blatantly fake and fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:10 PM

Agree that "most girls" but I don't think that's a pervasive narrative at all. What is common knowledge is that many girls do like older men in general but a huge age gap isn't all that common and easy to figure out. Yet some women do it. There are a lot of threads full of women explaining why they like older men as well. Not 20-30 years older but just older. The data below I got from another post on this topic but have seen these stats for probably over a decade and it just shows interesting po…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:57 PM
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Yes clearly. Once again......why would an attractive guy with many options on Tinder go for a 5? They don't is the answer aside from the occasional drunk mistake or whatever. Why would any attractive man with options on Tinder etc. date down and hook up with an average chick when he can date in his own league? Very atypical
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:13 PM
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Love the jargon you're using, and I read all the time that is way oversimplifying the male sex. We're not split into 2 categories (i.e. alpha or beta). Anyway beyond that if the guy stated he gets laid & blowjobs then he's not an incel by definition. His stats are very questionable but we all know women who are attracted to a more dangerous personality (i.e. independent, reckless and is a challenge for her which I would not say defines an alpha male or 'Chad' at all. It defines a promiscuous ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:04 PM
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Yes I read what you said, but did you not read my response? I'll summarize....You're assumption that an average woman (5) could easily find 100+ above average men (6+) to sleep with before the age of 20 is false if they are doing so in normal situations (i.e. not sex workers in any way). Our misunderstanding here is probably what you view as average vs. my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:04 AM
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So an average 5 female (which you need to clarify that you understand because you keep saying "a woman" without acknowledging that it's an average woman, can easily sleep with hundreds of men who are 7+ between the time that's generally legal (i.e. 18 years old) and the time she turns 20? That's 2 years....and I don't judge people but that body count would be concerning and just isn't realistic, unless you're talking about a specific profession? As I stated above I'm referring to adults, 30+ wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:01 AM
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Absolutely true except for the relatively new twist in the dating scene, even while people are at bars, wherein they are glued to their phones rather than even engaging in the real world right in front of them. I don't think it's the random hookups, which everyone who casually dates and is looking in the right places can have especially females, but the social media & dating app effect that have skewed reality when it comes to anything beyond hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:41 AM
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That has been the case forever and nothing new. It's very easy for women to have sex and not any kind of accomplishment because finding a willing man isn't hard. However I totally disagree that an average looking woman could easily have sex with hundreds of men that are more attractive than her. A woman finding a man willing to have sex is not accomplishing anything difficult or special. Anyone reading this who's 30 or older and hangs around friends who are sexually active knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:41 AM
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Agreed. It's dating apps and social media (using heavily filtered photos) that women get a lot more attention on and boosts their self esteem to a point of delusion. At a bar a 5 female isn't going to get much attention from men who are 8+. You have to actually go out and engage with people face to face to know that though.....which isn't the dating scene norm anymore. Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:25 AM
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As a man you sound pretty upset which I don't understand but ok. If dating apps are your best attempt at meeting someone because you are socially awkward and don't know how to interact with real people (which is becoming more and more common amongst the younger dating crowd which is sad imo). Anyway if you're a successful guy, and take care of yourself it's not hard to punch above your weight class by a couple points (a 6 dating an 8 etc). I don't see the whining and bitching that you're referri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:12 AM
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That's the first time I've ever heard that single men are viewed as losers and single women are winners. Women have more pressure (generally) to be in relationships especially if they want to have kids given the biological clock. Not once have I ever heard someone say that but I've heard the opposite thousands of times. If you're a successful guy who takes care of yourself it's not all that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:49 AM
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Not broken they just suck. Those of you in the dating world who are afraid of having in person conversations and have become socially awkward, which is becoming more and more common, have lost sight of what meeting people and dating is. Accumulating matches on dating apps to boost your self esteem isn’t dating. Not a system I participate in so there is no struggle on my end. That aside they’re dating apps not there to provide validation but I know a lot of you collect likes because it helps boos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:35 AM
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I see it now and read it before so either you added that sentence after I read it initially or I missed it. Either way I don't understand what you're saying there at all. The cons of taking away hunger are that we "lose one of the primary things giving your life energy, meaning, and goals"? That's how it reads so help me out here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:05 AM
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Women aren't terrible at all where are you getting that? they're fantastic and I love dating and hanging out with the right girl. Success and options = win. Trolling these threads being bitter and bored and totally irrelevant to the topic worries me though. Hopefully you can comprehend that's what you're doing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:52 PM
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The question is "would men be happier if they were asexual"? Are you a man? The multiple comments I've seen from you literally are trolling and confrontational without any thoughtful response to the question. For real why is a married woman of 20 years on a chat thread about mens happiness and sexuality? The trolling is obvious everywhere and I'm pretty sure that's it but lmk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:45 PM
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You stated you've been married 20 years plus cats, so your strong opinions about single mens dating habits is nothing more than trolling. No value, relevant experience, or context that is helpful has been provided. What has been provided is a clear history of contempt towards men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:36 PM
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Dating not married but why do you care? As a married cat woman why disparage men consistently for their opinions on sexuality & dating when none of this applies to you in any way? "Troll" is the answer in case you don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:19 PM
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Not following.....why exactly do women reject me. It can't be your posts so enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:10 PM
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Absolutely correct you do not. I recommend looking in the mirror more closely. You're missing what is obvious to everyone you interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:06 PM
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Who exactly said they hate women and that it's their hobby? That's a serious statement so you must have proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:04 PM
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Oh downtown_cat look in the mirror......you can be holding your cat/s too......and think long and hard about whether guys being picky about dating are failures or if you are? I can't confirm the cat situation but am almost positive you're a cat person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:59 PM
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The OP question didn't come from a normal thought process so by engaging in this thread with a very clear bias, as well as having absolutely no perspective since you're a female doesn't make sense. Intending to shame men and disparage their responses makes sense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:51 PM
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What are the cons of taking away hunger? If your response is the cost people will have to pay to do so then I'll know everything I need to know. Sex does not give mens lives a significant amount of energy, meaning or goals it's just sex so that statement you made is false. No is the answer a straight man with any testosterone flowing through his body would give.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:38 PM

Not true. Ogskat is right in that any man who has such little self confidence and specifically defines himself as an alpha, sigma, beta etc. only means he's insecure. Confident men are confident men which is a positive character trait per every woman I've ever met. Confident & highly intelligent is what the Sigma category is supposed to be. That combo exists, and as an adult (not a kid) I'm very cognizant of interacting, or doing business with a Sigma because they're hard to spot and shouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:45 AM

The OP never used the term "mysoginist". This response is based on a false assumption that men are either ugly or attractive "mysoginists" and therefore hate women by definition. Not one positive comment about men anywhere to be found in this, but there are disparaging statements amount men throughout which by definition would be called "misandry". Per the post men are either attractive or unattractive mysoginsits which the OP defined as "a toxic, an awful, a horrible human being". This response…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:22 AM
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Really? Point is unless you can define what a high value man is for you (I assumed you were older) then you're out of your depth. Be a college girl and chase hotties or whatever that's for another thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:05 AM

You do not know what all women prefer, or want despite you're very strong opinions otherwise. So it's been real and there's no reason to discuss this further simply because you do not want men to date younger women for any reason (an more than 2-3 years) even though it has nothing to do with you. So I'm off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:42 AM
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Who said we're talking about pre-dating value? And what does that even mean? Also who in the hell said this was about college age kids? In college no one cares about high value at all your brains aren't even fully developed yet so we're talking about very different demographics. This thread is not about college age dating. High value is high value but until you're independent and out of college you won't care about it. Now a guy you want to hook up with because he's hot and famous is your busine…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:27 AM
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I'm well aware but what's your point? Are you insinuating we're not supposed to answer questions truthfully? This entire site would be worthless if it's all fiction so real answers are the only ones that have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:48 PM

Oh and if I wasn't clear when you say "I don't care" and "I don't give a shit" and "who cares what happens to this woman - you'll just enjoy her for now and not think about the future" that's all patently false. She would inherit at least a couple homes, probably more, and many millions of dollars so her future would be just fine if I died. How exactly am I consuming someone's youth who is 10 years younger than me in her early 30's? What is she going to do in her 30's (which isn't youth she's gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:10 PM

Failing? No that was my choice so those were successes. What do you mean a woman in my situation? My age and unmarried? No I just dated a 49 year old but kids aren't off the table for me and likely would be for a 43-44 year old woman. Straight forward. I'm not stupid and I reject the assertion that you know exactly when I'll die regardless of stats. Do you know my health status or genetic background or how long my family members have lived? What's your issue with a couple with a 10 year differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:37 PM
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1000% true. Have you guys been out to bars or busy atmospheres with singles? If it's an even mix not all of the women get attention.....ever. If you count their iPhone maybe. Not all women are desirable and have unlimited options. I keep hearing that patently false lie more and more. Matching on a dating app does not count either I'm talking meeting and connecting with a person.....which if she used a massive filter (like most) may not go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:21 PM
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If a man can't be alone and stay entertained and productive without losing it something is wrong. IDK maybe a lot of men are that weak mentally but I can't relate. I'm out of a recent relationship with no desire to start one anytime soon either because I'm sticking to my standards. That includes not using dating apps I think they're worthless, but meeting new people in person at events like I described above. Keeping my standards high isn't a problem nor is being alone. Unless I really want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:16 PM
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Hot lasts a month if that's all she has which is quite often the case in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:08 PM
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High value men with standards and options aren't trolling bars or on dating apps if they're looking for anything serious so they're not going to be easy to find. Just like if you're looking to meet a high quality girl you need to look in the right places (i.e. intro through friends, art museum exhibits / events, charity events, the dog park if you have a dog, or anything based on culture & charity vs. a bar).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:06 PM
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Are you serious? Are you friends with any women who date athletes? Or know anything about the rampant infidelity and unhappy marriages a lot of them have because the woman accepts the status that most women desire that comes with being with an athlete or celebrity, which includes a good income, but the trade off is you should accept the fact that your pro athlete man has multiple women around the country. If that's your idea of a high value man then you have a very different definition of value …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:01 PM
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Why is Whiskey an incel (involuntarily celibate)? How do you know what his sex life is? You're also totally wrong I dated during that time (late 90's early 2000's) too and women were just as smart, capable and independent then so they didn't need men. It's not a fantasy at all to think a man and woman of about the same attractiveness gravitate towards each other and date. Sounds normal and in no way shocking He's also not wrong in that the effort, in general, that women put into their physical f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:53 PM
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Yeah but the women I go out with don't meet certain standards that I will never change because all women probably 45 and under do the same thing. If you're on your phone all the time, or think you're an influencer and post all over social media constantly because you crave attention but don't even make any income from it those are big issues for me. A real connection is the most important and that's non negotiable. But if she's attached to her phone more than interacting with you that's a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:34 PM
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Guys this is usually tied to age and if guys can get laid easily without much effort it's because that's where they are in their dating life and you're not going to change it. Typically we reach a point where we've had enough fun and that gets old but it'd different for every guy. I wouldn't expect that casual sex to slow down and they'll say whatever it takes if it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:28 PM
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I keep having to look up that dumb word and of course they're confused because women do not have consistent expectations as to how hard a guy should be trying (i.e. texting frequency etc. There are great videos on you tube of women talking about how fast a man should text her back and they were all over the place. Some want fast, but not too fast, some want immediate, some want a day, some want 2......no consistency and there is definitely not reciprocity. Women also can change their mind and ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:22 PM
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It obviously helps but there has to be a reason for a trashy hot woman to be with an unattractive guy because it's not his looks. Even if he doesn't have money he'll max out his cards on bottle service, trips, or whatever until it runs it's course. And yes a less attractive guy with real dough would be the choice of a trashy hottie who you can assume is a gold digger, vs an attractive guy who is broke. She might bang the hot dude a couple times, and behind the other guys back, but that's what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:15 PM
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Not a problem here I've passed on 3 chances, and pressure to get married and am happily single because I won't settle. I will say over the last 10 years (along with rise of social media & dating apps) dating has turned into a shit show because personal interaction is a skill that a lot of young people don't have and look so confused when they speak with someone new. They live on their phones, and unfortunately create their filtered pics so if you ever meet a woman she is almost never like her pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:09 PM
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Obviously not but it's not like we're making these ages up either. I'm friends with 2 couples that tried in their early 30's + IVF's and ended up adopting. Just stating facts no one is being dramatic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:38 AM
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Mostly true but I'm an exception (40's) guy with no kids and there are women in their early 30's who haven't had kids yet. As OKSector says below, and I know to be true because I know 4 women currently who are 30 on the dot and just starting to look for something serious. They're out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:32 AM
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So the average man has vastly less value than the average woman in general throughout life? Where are you getting that data or is it just a very blatantly sexist opinion? I mean if you want to talk value in terms of net worth in 2022 men had an average that was 38% higher than women so men are higher value financially. I'm curious by what metrics you're basing that claim. You seem very confident so it should be easy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:20 AM
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Jesus this is pretty brutal. I could've gotten married 3 times but didn't so according to you I'm a loser because I'm in my 40's and haven't been married...but didn't by choice? I'm not chasing 20 somethings though and how in the hell is a grown woman going to be "tricked" by a grown man into getting married? I'm sure there are slimy dudes that will want 25 years old when they're 80 but who cares let them dream. Seriously though in my 40's if I met someone in her 30's and we wanted to make it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:04 AM
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I'm in my 40's and I keep reading these comments about guys my age wanting 21 or 25 year olds but I'm not seeing anyone say that and none of my single buddies, including myself, shoot for 20 somethings? It could happen but you don't have much in common so unless she's a sugar baby or something I'm not seeing where these men are that are saying that? Women are the hottest and reach their sexual peak in their 30's as well IMO. You're really not even finished growing until your prefrontal cortex fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:41 AM
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100% correct I think it's like 70-80% of divorces are initiated by the woman. Also correct in that men (as a single 40's guy) aren't obsessed with 25 year olds. These stats are so depressing hence why some men, myself included, haven't made the leap because of not being ready, or sure she was the right one, but I can say an established woman in her 30's who wants to go for it is the perfect age (the whole decade but earlier if you want kids is better). I'm a big fan I'd say women in their 30's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:33 AM
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You think it has to do with what men are available? Totally disagree it's 2 things: 1-Pressure is probably cultural or religious and coming from your family because I don't know that many women that get a lot of pressure in 2025 unless it's from family. 2- The female biological clock and the years during which you are most likely to have a healthy, full term pregnancy is in your 20's and after 35 it's called a geriatric pregnancy and your risk of complications increases. That's just biology so i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:16 AM
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I know I said I believe you. We agree. I'm saying 50% is already a horrifically high number. No argument on any age difference just pointing out marriage isn't something that should be a crap shoot but statistically it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:31 PM
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K I'll take your word for it just saying if 50% isn't a worrisome % to you on average you're more confident than I am. I mean it's 1/2?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:24 PM
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Totally reasonable on your age choice but we're at roughly 50% divorce rate in the US that's enough data for me to know to be in love and 100% sure you're all in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 10:10 PM
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Women having standards is not problematic at all. Apparently some men whine about this online but that doesn't translate into reality in my experience. Either way, the incident the OP used is an incredibly obscure, bizarre, and grotesquely violent incident which is an absolute criminal tragedy. The fact that anyone would use that example as though it's a common occcurence is problematic. We all (male or female) have standards and most men don't have any problems with that at all. Well balanced h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:55 AM
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Tell a judge that females cheating doesn't count when adultery is in a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:14 AM
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Wait we're in a country with 75% of the population being obese and I've been on all of the dating apps so I strongly disagree that it's not that hard for most women to be attractive. Why would those filter apps be so popular and women use them so much for their pics if they're just attractive naturally? I'd say 20% of the women I used to see on dating apps I found to be a 7 or higher which I would call attractive. 20% is definitely not most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:12 PM
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No they choose the most attractive ones on apps it's as superficial as you can get. The top 1% of men requires more than a pic on bumble and being hot. It's obvious that those dating apps have changed the game completely but not "every girl" has a pool of men because not every woman is attractive enough to have 10 guys want them. If the chick is a 7 or higher than that's possible. There is also a big difference between connecting through dating apps and looking for something serious and long ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:06 PM
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I'm curious about this because with dating apps and women clearly having the upper hand and options they are swiping based on attraction / looks, just like guys do. If you're young and playing the field that's the game. BUT when you say "the best guy they can get" it gets muddy because many women will pick a man for looks and chemistry even if he is a moron with limited opportunity to be successful, and could have family genetic traits that cause health issues which will be passed on to the chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:55 PM
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? Where are you getting data that tells you most men think rape is inevitable? We just disagree and if most men that you know think like this you may need to relocate and associate with normal men because that's not normal or acceptable thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:43 PM
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I can read and understand context very well. You wrote it not me.....so go look at how many times you used the word "men" and you'll see the vast majority are not specific in any way and therefore refer to all men. English 101. Where did I write "you're making all that up" as you stated above? I never wrote that so what are you talking about? Gaslighting, by definition, is an attempt to manipulate someone and you stated I'm doing that? Not applicable at all. Debating isn't manipulation it's heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:51 PM
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No.....almost all men (atleast in the US and any man that I have ever known) reject any idea or thought that "committing rape is natural" as you claim. I have no idea what kind of men you've been around but that's just a patently false claim you're making and accusing men in general of. The rest are your opinions so whatever but I can't say I've ever met a man who disliked all other men because of their sex. Sure some guys dislike each other for many reasons but that's not misandry. I do know qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:19 PM
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Well then edit your post and be specific because you use the word "men" many times which accuses all males. Is my response really useless since you use the word "men", which encompasses all men, multiple times and are now trying to clarify? I'm waiting for evidence of these men who behave the way you're complaining about because I never see it. I won't be shocked if it's somewhere on the internet, but in my entire life I've never heard any man tell a woman she should lower her standards. It make…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:59 PM
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Men in real life are NOT generally behaving the way that you are insinuating and are clearly pissed about. I would know because I engage with many men at work and socially every day and this specific complaint and accusation directed at the male sex has no basis at all in my experience. The internet is not real life and since I haven't experienced what all of these complaints entail it's likely that the OP is taking issue with internet trolls or something like that. I'll stick to the real world …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:53 AM
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I'm a man and agree with almost all of these points but women cheat too so no need to call out Arnold and Tom Brady. Your assertion is basic logic and correct but I don't understand where you're receiving this pressure from single men claiming those things? As a currently, and voluntarily single guy with almost all married friends I can't say I've heard any single guy I know complain about women being too picky. Hasn't happened in my world and I don't hear men speak like what was described, or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:08 AM
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"the sooner "we men" realize this" was a quote at the end of that post. OK sir most of your statements are opinions so have you been granted some authority to speak for all men? You need a reality check dude...I'm a man and disagree with most of what you just stated as though they are facts. What kind of men are you associating with, or even know that make you think "men committing rape is natural" as you stated? FALSE STATEMENT in the world of normal men. It's not worth refuting all of the OP's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:51 AM
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I'm not in the pickup scene currently but why in the hell would good looking guys who can pick up chicks regardless (as long as they aren't a socially handicapped victim of covid and social media) need negging to pick up? As though women don't have enough insecurity issues already. The average guy with good game and confidence will beat out an awkward, dorky hot guy for anything beyond a couple hook ups every time. No negging needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:31 AM
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Yes women who are single and want to play the field definitely have more options but that time frame has a relatively small window. The extensive checklists that I've heard from younger women about what they're looking for isn't leading to positive outcomes(i.e. check divorce rates). So for a casual, or quick fling yes women have tons of options. Compare all of the women that were lumped in to one category (i.e. "almost always have more options") that to the top 10% of men (healthy, handsome, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:21 PM
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Correction - most couples in the US do stay married clearly. Our divorce rate is about 40% of marriages end (not sure what the average age is when that occurs).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:03 PM
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You're the OP and I specifically asked you to "specifically define" what you meant by "deeply flawed".......which you did not answer? I used hypothetical examples because you didn't answer my question about what "deeply flawed means"!!! When you wrap your head around your question, and are looking for intelligent discourse, as opposed to a loaded comment you'll receive better responses. Oh and in summary there is a real world out there, which is full of actual people, so when you refer to people…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:18 AM
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I'm not sure this is a male / female issue but more of a self awareness and moral issue. All humans are deeply flawed look just what we're doing to the earth. You have to define exactly what "flawed individual" means before you can even answer this question. Is it egotistical? narcissistic? sexist? physically disabled? mentally impaired? An anorexic cover model (male or female) is adored by the fashion industry but both are deeply flawed (physically and mentally) yet admired by the masses otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:13 AM

I’m very familiar with “settling”, as well as math. Are you insinuating that a majority of women (80%+ per the comment) just settle in order to be with a man they aren’t even attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:06 AM
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If "women are rarely attracted to men" as you say then human beings would never have grown to about 8 billion on the planet. The implication that women in general are able to attain that 20%, or a limited % of the male population is not mathematically possible. When it comes to friends I've had 3 romantic relationships with women who started out as strictly friends. I was able to change the minds of 3 women who were just friends, so clearly there is a way in some relationships. It's not common, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:22 AM
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On what planet do average women have limitless options? Have you spent any time with top tier men and seen who they date & marry? It doesn't sound like it because a woman who is an overall 5 has almost no chance whatsoever with a man who is an overall 9-10. A physically average man who is successful has a lot more options than an average looking woman who is just scraping by in life. If you haven't hung out with top tier men in social situations you won't understand because there are very few av…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:59 AM
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How are someone’s experiences and opinions that directly answer the question meaningless?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:34 AM
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First that's not a relationship (and definitely not a marriage) when she goes from "baby you love me" to saying she'll block the guy and dump him over paying for getting her nails done. She doesn't care about him at all she's setting ground work to see how much she can manipulate him into paying for until she controls his finances because he's a pussy and coward, or she'll go find a sucker who will let her play the dominant role while the man is the provider. That doesn't fly with real men and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:22 PM
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Really? Why isn't that demographic running the world because if you were right they would already be wealthy, influential, powerful, politically running the show, intellectually superior so have all of the answers that men out of that demographic don't. When we have a 22 year old President, and the richest and most successful men in the world are mostly in their 20's then you can make that claim. Not hard to find just engage with the real world.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:19 AM
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Not in the professional world with few exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:55 AM
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Yeah there's a difference between men, and guys who are still working on it. Any confident man with a brain, at least if you know how to date in a mature way, understands that the "share your location" BS and constantly worrying about the tens of thousands of guys she could be talking to is self sabotage and insecurity coming to the surface. Let's not get confused though the dating world has changed and at some point most of us move beyond the party & FOMO phase (men and women) and aren't addict…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:49 PM
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Physically some of this is true but a lot of nonsense too. Our brains aren't even developed until our mid 20's. Ask guys in their 20's working for 40 year old men who the "king of the jungle" is financially, socially and professionally. In the real professional world 22 year olds can't leverage anything outside of physical prowess (i.e. athletes) because they don't have the experience, mental discipline, or problem solving ability in their chosen profession. If the OP was correct then 18-25 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:59 AM
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OK you added more detail to the question (i.e. your specific definitions for safe and risky) so I can easily answer now. However I don't agree with your definitions but that's fine. Safe all day long based on your definitions. Your risky man isn't just a little wild you're describing a violent man who will have a record for for assault (i.e. fights), an adulterer, and engages in lots of "drama" which would all translate into domestic violence if he's a hothead. No sane man would choose to be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:18 AM
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Attractive women aren't all the same so it depends on whether she is a hot party woman or actually marriage material. You can't answer this question without knowing the woman's personality it's not all about her being attractive. If she wants a family & kids truthfully you want to be the safe choice. That can work. Because if you're the risky choice you'll mess up since you're not looking for the same thing. If she's a hot party girl faking her intentions, or straight up says she doesn't want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:27 AM

Men absolutely know the difference between a hook up and a LTR. From what I'm reading you're not dating / hooking up with men in their mid 20's or beyond would be my guess because you're hooking up with "guys" as you say. Actually if you want to be pampered you may have already gone older idk. You should know that the human brain hasn't even matured until your mid 20's and guys at that age want to get laid period and they don't care if they're slick. If you think you're slick and they don't see …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:32 AM
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I don't see one positive attribute that the male sex has overall according to this post which isn't relative to any pill debate in my opinion. Even the title alone is patently false because a man wanting to be intimate with a woman does NOT make him a horny sociopath? That's normal in the dating world at the right time, but if you want him to be so respectful and patient that he waits however long you deem appropriate that's not a recipe for any long term chemistry or attraction it's abnormal (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:00 AM
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I've read too many inaccuracies to count on here so let's clarify. If the OP is talking about single unsuccessful men vs single unsuccessful women that's a specific demographic. Yet in the comments I've also read dozens of attacks on "men", meaning the entire sex, for various reasons, seemingly random, and may which apply to a tiny percentage of men. So why does this whole thread read luck an attack on all males and spout falsehoods? As a happily single & successful guy, who could settle for ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:44 AM
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Clearly it's personal..... which ties into the idea that marriage holds value to anyone considering it, or who is opposed to it, in the present not the past. What value does marriage hold for men that you can't get from just being in a committed relationship? Statistically half of marriages fail and women file for around 70-80% of divorces, end up with a disproportionate asset allocation (statistically not all the time) so it's a losing gamble for men mostly. It's nothing about commitment becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:18 PM
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Not accurate at all I've never experienced that even once. However if you posted something bizarre or insulting to men or that was inaccurate and antagonist then of course you're going to have problems. For a random man to DM you then I think you posted something antagonizing with the intention of pissing men off because that's very uncommon. Trying to spin this is just dishonest because guys are generally easy going and also never blame women for anything another man does to them? That's a big …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:49 PM
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You referred to a stay at home wife / mom as "loyal house pet"? You know a lot of women with that option to stay home with their kids choose to do that I assume. So according to you women who stay at home have the status of "a loyal house pet"?......that label is a shot to the heart for a lot of women out there I'm sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:23 PM
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If you've had sex and find it pointless and disgusting you weren't doing it right.....maybe try again? Human beings are wired physiologically to have a sex drive and find it pleasurable unless you have a hormonal or other chemical imbalance. Those are conditions that can be treated and are highly likely when someone is essentially expressing strong asexual tendencies. Regarding happiness that's unique to the individual but if you're chemically or hormonally imbalanced that's a contributor. We're…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:10 PM
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Because some of us are. Statistically long term we're not but I date and am open to marriage but I hate to break some news to you that you'll realize once you have elderly Grandparents, or Aunts or uncles or Parents that hit their 70's. It's common for people to create their own lives and move to another city away from their parents, and even if not if Grandma / Grandpa lives alone or is in a home do you think the family and grandkids are there every day? No they are not. If your partner is stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:47 AM
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I disagree on this one. I'm 46 and date but haven't met "the one". I am perfectly happy, in fact happier being single and selective than I am figuring out if a relationship is going to work and dealing with the collapse. You have free time to do whatever you want, whenever you want, and focus on being the best person you can be which shows when you put yourself back out there. I would rather have been single than been in most of the relationships I've had but hindsight is 20/20. Dating someone j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:28 AM
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Wrong....what's horrific is the women & men who have kids, regret it, and take out that regret on each other and the children traumatizing them because of their immaturity and lack of any sense of responsibility. Some parents regret having a kid / kids but still show up and are responsible parents. It's the ones that bail (speaking from experience) that cause real damage. Fuck taboo it doesn't matter what society or their friends think about a Mom that clearly regrets having a kid, what matters …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:16 AM
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I'm lost on this one...... where was anyone insulting all women and angrily saying that they bang top tier men (which isn't possible mathematically speaking) just to be fucking? We don't care (I'm speaking for literally every many I know) unless the woman is your GF and she banged someone else for a status fuck. That man would have a right to be pissed. I'm not seeing any angry comments like that so what am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:05 AM
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I'm not following because at 35 or older women who become pregnant are having a "geriatric pregnancy" and then 15 years later or so they hit menopause. Those are biological, inescapable facts that affect reproduction so there are walls for women biologically and statistically that are tied to child bearing ability. It's not a wall but there's a scientific rationale behind people making the "hitting the wall" and it relates to having kids. Some people are just assholes hence and use that term a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:57 AM
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I totally disagree with BrianMarshal that comment wreaks of someone who hasn't been with a lot of women. If you're successful it doesn't even matter if you're healthy, attractive or fit you can make women your hobby but they're not the type of women you want to marry. Yes men who are interested in marrying want to be able to provide for their family but prioritizing women over hobbies and a complete life means you're treating chasing females as your hobby (so basically a game). That's what lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:45 AM
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I am that guy in the 2nd paragraph. 46, successful and never married by choice though. You're totally right that people who are very religious or older than me and don't know me look at me like I'm an alien if they ask if I'm married and I tell them no and I never have been. Growing up in a home with a nasty divorce traumatized me to the point that I was very firm with myself going in to my 20's that I would not get married until I'm at least 30 because it's too young and I need to be sure so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:37 AM
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Sorry to hear that and I hope you've made a fully recovery. However that would have been in your late 30's so if you wanted to date and get married you had 2 decades before that to do so right? Fuck tax planning strategies, and the complications that come with being more financially secure, and a ridiculous fertility blessing that you can very simply have a pastor or whomever officiates the wedding exclude, because none of those are valid arguments for not being able to find a suitable partner i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:18 AM
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Outerpaths I'm 46 and haven't married, but I am hopeful and not at all miserable so that's something you can control and you're much younger than me so buck up and get out there!!!! However I can relate.....I could have married atleast 3X by now and didn't simply because I'm a child of divorce so marriage isn't something I take lightly. Half of marriages end up in divorce with the majority of them being initiated by the woman, and men generally get screwed financially in a divorce especially whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:54 AM
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First we all know Oprah and Steadman are married, and they're great people, but if you if you've lived in Chicago for 20+ years and are a member of the LGBTQ community you'll have a different perspective. I don't live there so I'm only stating what I have heard for decades from a very close relative who lives there and his large circle of friends in that community. In other words that's not a good example of an anomaly. That's just the opinions of hundreds of Chicago residents I've interacted wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:32 AM
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100% know what nice guys are, but you're right I'm new and thanks because I hadn't read the specific definition of Nice Guy on PPD. I have now.....nothing new there. An asshole will bitch or lecture a woman about what's none of his business. Nice Guy won't. That's reality but like I said I'm not learning anything new there. I'd still love your definition of "shitty" and "vile" as used in your post? Should be easy and I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:23 PM
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No one is denying anything you're not being clear enough for guys to even answer? Hot, stupid and easy may describe a "terrible" woman to you, but that is the definition of awesome to some guys and gals out there. So until you let us know your objective definition of what exactly constitutes a "shitty" or terrible woman we're in the dark
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:39 PM
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I'm not seeing a specific definition of what a "shitty" woman (or person) constitutes here? One persons definition of "shitty" could be that she dresses slutty and loves attention in public and from men in general, another person could be fine with that but if she didn't graduate college he'd be turned off and put her in the "shitty" category. So defining what a "shitty" or "vile" woman is exactly would help because this seems personal to you I'm not aware of (or atleast aren't friends with any)…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:30 PM
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OK so the "subject" is the post which is a subjective statement about male attraction to shitty women etc etc etc. I am also very well versed in the subject of attraction thank you very much. You do realize that the topic is a 100% subjective one don't you? Attraction varies from person to person, and evolves over time, and can not be objectively quantified nor mathematically calculated realistically. How many grandmas can pull a 20 something versus how easy it is for a multi billionaire to pull…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:36 AM
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What????? Being told they “don’t need my toxic masculinity” when I’m doing a common courtesy of opening a door isn’t a criticism it’s a sexist insult. I was helping them without saying a word. What’s “toxic”????! They wouldn’t have said it to a woman! The only toxic thing there was their mentality. By that logic I can get annoyed by a female trait that is actually kindness and tell any woman that “I don’t need your toxic femininity” and according to you that’s criticism?? No that’s also a sexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:36 AM
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Twisting my words dude…didn’t say procreation isn’t an instinct I said humans aren’t failures if they don’t do it…..Jesus how much do you want to push this kid agenda on everyone? It’s not your business. I’ve seen a lot of this world and most of the US so wherever the secret granny’s are hiding that get more 20 year old ass I haven’t seen it and have vaguely read about it but who cares? The fact that these statements weren’t jokes worries me but hey you’re apparently an expert on the sex lives o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:13 AM
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I don't? Well as a man I've had that phrase thrown at me in certain situations where women weren't happy with a business event they didn't agree with, or trying to open a door for women, and I've heard it dozens and dozens of times and every time it's essentially used as a curse word towards those men and taken out of context by naive women who had no idea what they were even frustrated or upset about other than men going about their business. I have personally witnessed it, and read enough to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:56 PM
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WOW you were serious? Well what is bottom of the barrel then? You said it I just gave an example. I'm not wasting my time researching 70 year old women's dating habits I'm sure there are outliers where it happens. However I can say factually that with a phone call and a couple hours multi billionaires have however many dates they can fit on their plane jetting off to wherever, or if they stay home make that 50 girlfriends. There's no comparison at all it's not possible. Unless Granny is a billio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:44 PM
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Of course I hear the nice guys finish last BS it's not a blanket statement or as easy as you're all trying to make it sound though. Nothing about this topic is black and white it's all shades of gray so there is no answer. Oh and you quoted me out of context, what I said was when it comes to men lecturing women about their moral failings (which was your statement) "I certainly don't hear it". We're all free to choose whomever we want to be with, or stay single if we want to. It's easy to cast bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:47 PM
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Nevermind they deleted it because he was so graphic describing what a bad man / boy and an asshole can be they banned it. He nailed it though hopefully you saw it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:31 PM
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Must have posted right after you read that other one but you can see it now I assume
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:29 PM
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the definition of "toxic" is in no way positive and the term "toxic masculinity" is used to insult men all the time. I've personally been referred to using that term for opening a door and being polite but the females didn't appreciate my "toxic masculinity" and didn't want my help.......that was not a compliment and it's 100% a negative term referring to any type of mens behavior that angers a certain person or group and they just want to use that catchphrase to blame the male sex.......for bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:27 PM
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This is a joke right? I really hope so but I have to answer because almost every one of those statements is patently false. Your assumption that men & women have to even be dating and will suffer with someone just so they can be dating is false. I'm a perfect example of that and have many friends who are single voluntarily and very happy. Not everyone is co dependent. Bottom of the barrel women have no chance to date (Ii.e. drug addict living under a bridge) anyone while the top 1% of the worlds…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:13 PM
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Where are you getting this data that sounds as though men & women go at it about these issues and men "lecture women" constantly? I certainly don't hear it often because you already pointed it out, and it's nothing to be so angry about but generally guys pick hot and crazy over mediocre and nice otherwise they'll cheat so they accept the risk. Simple...... Women I can't speak for because they account for 80% of divorce filings so if you're casting stones on which sex is making the wrong choices …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 07:01 PM
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disayle32 was pretty darn clear how does that not tell you a damn thing? I can take it further to make it even more clear....... Absentee fathers, deadbeats who don't work and mooch off of their women, drug addicts (not dealers as he mentioned), anger management issues, sexual deviants which could include abuse of children. Between his post and this you have a darn good list of the worst of the worst. "Bad boy" or "man" isn't a term describing what turns some women it literally means they're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:40 PM
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Well the words masculine and feminine are latin derived like the entire English language and both words have meant the same thing prior to the English language.was even created. No one alive on this planet created these words they existed long before certain groups of people decided within the last 20 years that they don't like men or how they act so suddenly what the word describing the attributes of men (masculinity) became toxic. Point being Masculine means characteristics worthy of and synon…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:23 PM
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Men's sexual desires are clearly dependent on women but it doesn't have to be one woman. Also the comment about mens lives being empty and without meaning unless consistent sex, likely with one partner per the post, is present is ridiculous. Life doesn't revolve around sexual desire or we would all be having sex for a living and it would consume us 24/7. If you're a man and are with a woman, especially if you're married to one, who is using sex as leverage and a form of manipulation you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:26 PM
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I haven't seen one that says anything close to the flip version of the above as a lot of them get deleted. Do you have an example of one you can share. For instance something like "female promiscuity wouldn't be demonized if women didn't deny that it exists and that females engage in bad behavior just as often as men (roughly)." That will likely be deleted and "that's what I'm on about". If not share one that's directed at women aggressively like this OP's question and is still an active post pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:04 AM
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You are correct in that women are choosing to reproduce less and less. That is a personal choice as more women just don't want to be mothers at all. You didn't clarify why you think all women are entitled to men that you define as being in the top 20%. Based on the above quote you posted you think that "successful males" are not the most desirable, bur rather the "best males". No definitions provided on those but your base requirement #2 requires that a man be successful male. That's another con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 03:45 AM
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Pretty true aside from assuming any of this upsets men in general. I absolutely can imagine how much fun women can have if they have a good date, just like I know that many dates end up being a disaster so online dating is by no means a 100% success rate and always results in great dates like you make it sound. If you’re that active online dating, or more like hooking up, then you must have heard many nightmare stories. If you’re point was that you get laid all the time using apps but men in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:18 AM
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What does acting in their "feminine energy" even mean? That guys comment didn't make him a weirdo BTW and included no feminine energy since it came across as a guys post. In the real world, just like most of these comments confirm, status and success are important to many women, and where I live it's most women. That's based on personal experiences and countless interactions with women who are pretty clear about what they want. It may not be priority 1 but those are top priorities in my experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:46 AM
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I can't give you a % but it depends on where you live. I happen to be in a city where women are more materialistic and superficial than most cities so while attraction is obviously important I'd say half of the single girls I see if I go out are looking for a successful guy or they're not interested. It may not be the first priority I'll give you that. I also personally know many, many women that cheat on, and usually leave their hot, broke boyfriend because he mooches of her. It's not easy to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:34 AM
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Wait you said "nope all women" in response to my comment about the top 20% of men wanting the top 20% of men, then later I re-stated that reasonable expectation and you said "fine"? Which one is it? Anyway you can wish all you want but an average woman ( a 5) isn't going to land a man you described because it's a wish list that you will rarely find including all 3 of your requirements. Women are also generally much more intent, and in a hurry to find someone and have kids and I assume you know g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:22 AM
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What years were you around to observe a society "run almost entirely by men" to even make that statement? What "system" are you referring to? I' keep reading these comments and they all seem like someone with very little, or no sexual experience wrote them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:54 AM
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You didn't say "unlimited sex" first off so her response isn't even accurate. I totally disagree with you though in that "incels" aren't even real it's a derogatory term referring to men who are socially awkward, don't put in the effort to pursue women in a mature, responsible way, and are basically introverts and likely game nerds who choose to pursue other hobbies and lifestyles where they don't interact with women. Those men are voluntarily celibate due to being lazy and playing the victim. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:13 AM
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Obviously only the top 20% of women (attractive, physically fit, educated and financially independent, maternal and is willing to be a mother not just rely on her husband to pay for a nanny while she doesn't work etc.) are the women we're talking about right? Because everyone wants to level up in their relationships but that's not reality so this is a fantasy wish I guess. This is hilarious because those 3 requirements are subjective and every woman would not agree as to which men they think are…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:50 AM
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My "Moth Femboy "Please show me where I state that "I think that all women are out to get me and manipulate me into cutting my dick off"???????" That type of language is unacceptable since even insinuating genital mutation is promoted, or acceptable and that you are aware of such actions is a huge liability. I'd like to have someone check in with you to make sure you're not involved in genital mutilation like the kind you so comfortably reference above. What she's saying is not logical at all it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 09:02 AM
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Cool I read that as well and nothing has changed. Once again I don't see "young men" or "unlimited sex" in that part either? Also, once again, any rational adult would read that part and think that it means if men & women can't be sexually compatible due to men being demonized (as evidenced by the actual post) then there will be consequences of some sort. I don't even agree with a lot of his comment but let's at least communicate honestly. The attempt at manipulation & clear agenda in your respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:54 AM
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I did read it....."everyone should be having as much sex as they want" is exactly what the phrase you take issue with says. That's precisely my point which is that you're twisting someone's comment because nowhere does it say "young men" or "unlimited sex" or insinuate that anyone is supposed to give anything to anyone? Basically your responding to a comment that doesn't exist. It's a very simple statement which can be summed up by any rational adult to mean that consensual sex is something ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:46 AM
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When someone says "male sexuality" that's the same referring to all males (specifically straight males in this instance). We all live with our sexuality they're not 2 separate entities so let's call a spade a spade and see the misandry that is dripping out of every part of this post. I love the honesty though and the very simple truth is if anyone has an issue with their perception of men being demonized then articulating why you personally demonize men is hopefully somehow cathartic. It's amusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:27 AM
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Where is that quote even coming from? I don't see any post that states any person is supposed to "give unlimited sex" to men? If you're twisting comments and misquoting people to fit your personal narrative then I get it, but I'm not seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:56 AM
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Love that last quote from JP but same goes for men. The flaw in all of this is that it’s presented as though we’re expected to be serious about long term commitments at precisely the age when most people are still figuring out what they want to do with life in general! I haven’t ever met a college aged man who felt entitled to undying love from a woman unless you’re exaggerating and talking about a man hitting on a woman and getting rejected and him getting upset or something? I can say with sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:07 PM
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Young and broke guys get with women their age constantly despite the increase in gold digging we’ve all seen over time. To your point though if a woman chases a man primarily for his money he knows it, and she’ll get dropped. If she was into him & genuinely attracted then maybe. Oh and grown men 30+ who are mentally / emotionally stable aren’t looking for an 18 yr old so not sure where you got that age from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:48 PM

True on the birth certificate being a legal document but maybe you don't know that the Father does not even have to be stated on the document. In the case of adoption you'll need the original birth certificate and an amended birth certificate with the adoptive parents listed on there so that will require 2 birth certificates, as well as whatever will, trust, or estate documents that have everyone accurately named and are legally binding to work. To have legal rights to an inheritance the will, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:03 AM
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I'm sure you've seen it because it exists but you're not grasping the truth here. #1 you stated "teenagers" in the OP and it is very very uncommon to see a 30+ year old man with an 18 year old so that's a non issue. #2 No one is stopping adult women or men from dating whomever they choose regardless of their age. It takes 2 people to create a relationship and it just so happens that it's more common for men to be with younger women than vice versa. We're all free to date whomever we want so insi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:17 PM
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You're clearly a good human being and I have a lot of respect for that response. Thank you...sincerely. Aside from the legal & financial situations that may require a paternity test not all people are honest or trustworthy despite what their partner thinks. That includes people who are married hence why half of marriages end in divorce in the US. This disgusts me but I have personally had 2 different conversations with women who were raising children with men (1 married 1 not) who knowingly had …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:12 PM
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Unfortunately trust isn't a legally binding document and if the child stands to inherit something or be part of a family that has a legal reason to confirm that the child is indeed that man's baby then it has to be done. This stuff happens and for many different legal reasons it can be very important. She can prove she's trustworthy by taking a simple test. The flip side is if the Mom wants to refuse then the child loses rights they otherwise would have had if only a paternity test had been done…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:35 AM
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Not so sure about any opinion a devout Catholic provides related to God's view on paternity testing. Before weighing in on this issue from a Catholic perspective please address and confirm that you've taken care of the child molestation, abuse, and rape that was pervasive and rampant for decades in the Catholic Church. Compare that rampant, systemic, massive abuse of little boys and compare it to taking a paternity test for simple clarity. Those priests took sacred vows before God and look what …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:22 AM
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Hey I've never seen this question/ sub and am sure you have great qualities and would have loved to read them but your initial response was already so negative I'm curious why you post anything? If you've had anyone call you a "piece of s%^T" on a thread I don't know why you would want to come back? I haven't read one single post by anyone "shitting" on a female on this thread for having positive qualities beyond looks. Your mind has been made up clearly and it's unfortunate that what I've read …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:59 AM
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Love the honesty and that's all very intriguing to me so you'll find the right guy. I get that you hate driving but what happens if you have kids in the future like you mention below? Meaning that if you're a Mother driving happens unless you land in a situation where you have a driver. Lastly the $ you both make has to go somewhere other than into clothes & shopping so wouldn't an intelligent man with some finance expertise be a good thing? If the complaint of "Oh, she's way too much work" is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:29 AM
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Aside from the facts that there is generally significant financial risk for men to get married and have kids given the divorce rate, when you add in the % of divorces initiated by women which is 70%+ there is a clear pattern in this country. Why would any man willingly get married when the stats show that divorces, and who reaps the financial benefits when that occurs, are so tilted in women's favor. You can have a family and not be married it's really simple. Show me a woman who wants to contri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 08:49 AM

Dude you're saying that being successful completely flips your dating options? Not always true first off. So Lift and Lurks comments and statements don't really matter somehow or aren't accurate because of success? This isn't a thread about analyzing socio economic standing and how that affects peoples dating success. Lift and Lurk is also totally right on his comments about dating, sex and having fun without over analyzing as well. Maybe some teens out there may not get it quite yet but they wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:44 AM

Pretty intuitive post but with a divorce rate of roughly 50% in the US I'm of the opinion that no one should rush into a relationship of any kind. Successful, intelligent men who take care of their health have the benefit, whether it's right or wrong is irrelevant because this is reality in the US, of becoming more valuable in the dating world as they mature and become better potential providers and gain life experience. Women are at a disadvantage from that perspective for several reasons, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:14 PM
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