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Question For MenSnowBorn6339/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:51 PM
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I don’t think you’re mad at the government bro. I think you’re just homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:14 AM
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Yeah start deep throating your homie’s cock! That’ll show us!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:34 AM
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Well then you better stock up on chapstick and get to sucking each other off. Don’t forget to look your fellow man in the eyes while he shoots his laborious goo down your eager throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:14 AM
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Bro thinks he is owed a BLOW JOB for working his shitty 9-5😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:05 PM
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Men cause virtually all their own issues, yet you want women to solve them? Yeah, fuck off with that. We don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:26 PM
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Maybe you’re below average
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:24 AM
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You have made 40 posts in this sub in the span of one week. The only thing you’re dominating is a bag of pizza rolls after soldiering through your fifth wank tonight.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:21 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:55 PM
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LMAOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:44 PM
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Honestly I think most of the autistic guys in these comments are a lost cause. Just watching them screech and whine is making my pussy dry up like the Sahara. So unmanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:07 PM
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You poor little helpless victim😭😭 I’m so sad for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:06 PM
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That sux
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:05 PM
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THEN WHY ARE YOU TYING YOURSELF IN KNOTS COMPLAINING💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:58 AM
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Sorry to hear that. I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:45 AM
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Okay! Enjoy your cats
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:44 AM
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I don’t think you understand what a strawman argument is because you just made one. Nobody is talking about suicide rates. We are talking about the possibility of autistic men finding love. I said it is possible because I’ve seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:29 AM
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Jesus dude. If that’s how you view the world then you really are a loser. You have this myopic, relentless victim mentality that you are FIGHTING to defend. I think you’re lost. I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:03 AM
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Okay! Then you shouldn’t ever pursue it or complain that you don’t have it since it’s not something you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:42 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. Still doesn’t mean it’s impossible to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:35 AM
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You clearly have no idea what love is and have never felt it. When two people are truly in love, looks, status, and every other superficial thing you’re obsessed with don’t matter. I feel sorry you’re disqualifying yourself so flippantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:34 AM
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Speak for yourself. I know several autistic men who are either married, engaged, or in long term serious relationships. Maybe your hygiene is bad and you smell?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:32 AM
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Two separate issues entirely. Nice conflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:31 AM
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Even if you were right (you’re not), who gives a shit why it happens? Bottom line: the autistic uggo gets a wife who loves him and they have a happy life together. That’s it. Good for him. Life really can be that simple. You’re way overcomplicating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:53 AM
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No, I’m not. Of course being attractive and wealthy are desirable traits. But they are not the ONLY desirable traits. Just because you’re not attractive or wealthy, doesn’t mean you are automatically disqualified. In fact you can find love, and many autistic weird guys do, because they offer other things women want. I think you’re just struggling to accept that it’s possible for autistic weird guys to get relationships. You don’t want to acknowledge that you’re contributing to your own lonelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:37 AM
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Stop with your pseudo-intellectual questions. Everybody likes attractive people. Everybody likes successful people. You are neither, so you have to develop something else people like if you want a chance. Your options will be more limited, but somebody out there will fancy you if you offer something, ANYTHING desirable (but you don’t, at all)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:07 AM
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If he became a handsome powerful asshole, then yes she would leave. If all his original traits that she fell in love with stayed the same, then no. Not sure what point you’re trying to make. You think you’re creating some “gotcha” moment, but everybody knows things like money and attractiveness are always going to be an advantage. This is not revolutionary information. But that doesn’t mean ugly weird dudes can’t find love. It happens all the time. It’s just not happening to you because you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:52 AM
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Dude you are so out of touch😂 not every woman wants a model millionaire husband. Part of your problem is you look at the world with such extreme black and white thinking. There are legit millions of women who don’t want to date some rich asshole and instead find more fulfillment in regular dudes. You just don’t want to admit that it’s possible because then you can’t blame the world for your problems. You’d actually have to get off your ass and improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:42 AM
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Yes. Everybody knows that. That’s why the men in that category need to improve other areas of their lives and offer something else, because looking really hot is off the table for them. I know a couple weird-looking autistic men who are in successful long term relationships. My best friend is about to marry one. It’s definitely not due to his looks or status (he has none). It’s because he is kind, protective, funny, always helping people, and she says “I can’t imagine anybody loving me more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:13 AM
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Obviously he has a better chance than some “ugly autistic nobody.” He is constantly surrounded by a particular type of woman because he offers them the lifestyle they want. Theoretically he could fall in love with one of those women, but he won’t. I don’t think that man wants love. I think he just wants meaningless sex with models. Which is not what OP said he wanted, which is why using Chris brown as an example here is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:56 AM
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I was responding to a comment that said “men also want love, intimacy, and partnership.” Chris brown doesn’t have those things. He just has lots of sex and a couple baby mamas. That’s not love. Which is why I keep saying money cannot buy true love and the things OP said he wants. Please try to keep up with the subject of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:04 AM
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Having children does NOT = love. Idk how many times I have to explain that. People fuck and make accidental babies every single day, even people who hate each other. Btw that statement “women love to be rich and do nothing all day” is precisely why you will never find love, intimacy, or partnership. Keep spouting that sexist nonsense and you’ll continue to be one of those lonely men who never reproduces. The problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:55 AM
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You clearly have no idea what love means lmfao. Love is not required to have a baby with a rapper. All that is required is dick in vagina. People procreate all the time without being in love with each other. I guarantee none of those baby mamas genuinely love him or vice versa because money cannot buy love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 02:07 AM
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Well first, he has to go after women who are in his league, so probably other “ugly/autistic” women. Second, he HAS to develop his good qualities if he wants even the slightest chance of success. Be funny, be intelligent, be adventurous, be a good conversationalist, be SOMETHING that demonstrates a redeeming quality that another person might like. You have to develop some other attractive trait, skill, or quality to make yourself marketable. Third, you need to lead with your strengths rather tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:28 AM
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Exactly lol. If you introduce yourself to women as an “ugly broke autistic loser,” then yeah, you will ensure a very lonely future for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:28 AM
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NONE of those arrangements are about love, intimacy, or partnership. Collecting women like infinity stones is not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:26 AM
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Well with that mindset, you’re absolutely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:42 PM
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You will never find true love, intimacy, or partnership by solely focusing on your money and looks while neglecting the qualities that make up your personhood. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:24 PM
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I disagree that your feelings and attitude cannot be changed. I believe misery is two things. First, misery can be a product of circumstances and environment. Like if I were being held captive by terrorists, yes, I would be completely miserable until I left. As for incels, they do not surround themselves with positive, upbeat people. They mostly spend their time with others who are just as angry as they are, thus fueling each other’s negative worldview. It’s like if someone wants to lose weight,…
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 03:09 AM
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It’s no secret that incel-types are miserable. They seem to hate themselves, women, other men, even some of their family members and larger society. Their seething anger at the world around them manifests in constant complaints, self-loathing, insults, and doom-talk. Well, all that misery and hatred becomes an integral part of your personality. The palpable anger becomes a defining characteristic reflected in your attitude, values, behaviors, and emotional patterns. Because of social contagion, …
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:06 AM
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I can explain what we mean by “fix your personality” IF you genuinely want to know and aren’t going to call me names for explaining it.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 01:24 AM
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Whole thread filled with seething incels lmfao.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:28 PM
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Then it’s working😂
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:25 PM
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It’s a bunch of incel-type dudes who have both 1.) refused to do ANYTHING to improve their looks (or status or personality), and 2.) reduced their own value as a human to their looks alone. Then they get mad we don’t want to date some fat, balding, video game addicted weirdo with no social skills. It’s all a big cope and projection of inadequacy.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:25 PM
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That’s because you’re juvenile and underdeveloped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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I just described friendship in my last comment. Read it again. And it’s not about entertainment either. You don’t have to be a class clown to be a good friend. I have plenty of friends who are more shy/timid, but I still enjoy their company. You just have to have decent communication skills and talk about topics that are interesting to both parties. Boring guys are boring because they either A.) can’t hold a basic conversation, B.) only talk about their interests, or C.) don’t talk at all. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:43 PM
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Again, you don’t know what friendship is. I don’t take any time or resources away from my friends. That’s not what friendship is about. We just enjoy each others company, conversation, support, and making memories together. The fact that you view “friendship” as some transaction of time and resources says a lot about your inability to socially bond with other humans. Do men see everything in life as a business transaction? How fucking sad and lonely of an existence that must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:30 PM
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We are not salty. It’s more of a deep disappointment at the realization that half the world’s population is cold, detached, selfish, and unfeeling (except the feelings they have in their penis). It communicates to us women that we are not worthy of friendship and camaraderie in the eyes of men; our only value to them is sex or a wife role. I don’t think men even understand what friendship is since they view it only as a transaction they benefit from, like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:18 PM
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I never said you should give up, just that I personally would never fuck you or any adult virgin. I don’t do charity work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:46 PM
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Lmao well sounds like your life just sucks🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:45 PM
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I don’t know why you keep using the word “patriarchy.” I have not once used that term, yet you’re asking me to debate it. So that’s a straw man argument. Honestly bro you have a defeatist victim mindset, and that is why you can’t get laid. Women are not gatekeeping sex from you, you’re just not good enough to have sex with the type of women you want. You could go have sex with an “ugly” woman, a woman who is a virgin herself, a desperate older woman, or even another man. There’s plenty of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:21 AM
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Wtf are you even talking about? You sound depressed and bitter tbh. I’m sensing that this is a comment from a low value, low success male, but I’ll still reply anyway. Men DEFINITELY put pressure on each other to have sex with women, probably much more than the pressure women apply. Especially at younger ages. In high school and young adulthood, it is the males who create the pressure to have sex because young girls don’t care. If you’re past the age of 25 and still a virgin, then yeah women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:18 PM
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It’s crazy that you read my comment and thought “wow, she’s really entitled to male friendship.” Male friendship is worthless to me and I don’t want it. Too many men cannot feel things beyond their penis, or like you said, “he has no control over his sexual feelings,” so why would I even try having a conversation with them? I’ll just ignore them. I will never empathize with some random male’s sexual desires because they are meaningless at best and harmful at worst. All those dudes want is sex an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:59 PM
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All I see is a bunch of emotionally unstable lonely males who need therapy. You all claim therapy doesn’t work but you’ve never even tried it. You know there are male therapists with male-centered therapy strategies, right? Men kill themselves at high rates because they cannot cope with their emotions and perceived failures. Starting a “project” will only aid them in suppressing and ignoring their emotions rather than addressing and resolving them. And nobody is stopping men from forming groups …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:46 PM
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I can’t stay platonic friends with a dude who has expressed sexual interest in me. His interest will never go away and it poisons the dynamic. Any guy friend who has ever done this to me has ruined the friendship and made it super weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:25 AM
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I think more men need therapy, and I think more men need to emotionally support one another. Men need to be emotionally vulnerable, check in on their friends, and open up to one another. Personally I do not have any male friends. Not a single one. Because every time I’ve had one, he just wants to have sex with me. So unless a guy has a stable relationship with a wife/gf, then he needs his bros to step up. Or go to therapy like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:30 AM
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😂 lmao welcome to the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:26 AM
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You have no idea what toxic masculinity means. It’s like when a group of frat bros egg each other on to rape a drunk passed out girl and take photos of the assault. It’s like when a bunch of guys in a locker room bully and haze the younger guys (like in my hometown, where a group of older boys tied up a couple underclassmen and shoved pencils in their rectums). It’s like when guys lie, cheat, steal, and manipulate to get sex from as many women as possible just so they can brag to their friends a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:24 AM
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I’m glad you were open to changing your view on this. It’s refreshing to see somebody actually engage with opposing viewpoints and open their mind to other perspectives lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:13 AM
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I don’t want to date a man-whore who sleeps around because something is certainly wrong with him. At the same time, I don’t want to date an adult virgin because something is certainly wrong with him. Both extremes are severely unattractive to me. I like a guy with a moderate amount of experience to show that he knows what he’s doing, and he is clearly a desirable guy, but he’s also not throwing his dick into every warm hole he finds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:10 AM
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You’ve probably attracted (or manipulated) a few insecure women to sleep with you, but the women you’re approaching on the street obviously think you’re a creep. I have dudes in my neighborhood who try to talk to me, but I ignore their existence because they are creepy and I already know what they want. I’m guessing that’s exactly how the women in your neighborhood feel about you. Headstrong, secure women don’t feel the need to entertain random street males who aren’t worth our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:02 PM
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Maybe YOU are unattractive to the women you approach. Did you ever consider that? I don’t speak to ugly weird guys in the street either. And us ladies get hit on by ALL TYPES of men. I get hit on by millionaires, homeless men, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, young, geriatric, like it just never ends and is fucking exhausting. Even if an attractive man approaches me in the street I am irritated and just want to be left alone. Seriously please get over yourself. You’re not that great to want to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:08 AM
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Random men are creepy and disgusting. I fucking hate when they open their mouths to say anything to me. You need to learn this and just shut your mouth in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:52 AM
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You can’t be serious. You’re one of the most disconnected douche bags I’ve ever seen on here. You have no clue how unwelcome your male attention is to random women on the streets. I promise you, NOBODY likes it. Especially with your creepy attitude and personality. Fucking gross🤢 I would ignore the hell out of you and clutch my pepper spray when I saw you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:50 AM
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Are you going to address the difference in the type of unpaid labor men and women do? Because that’s the most important factor here. You can’t deny that cleaning up after someone daily makes you resentful of that person. It’s actually a huge reason many women file for divorce. Not to mention, men get to spend more time advancing their own careers while the wife is at home cooking and cleaning for him. Don’t you think some women would rather spend their time advancing their own careers instead? K…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:39 AM
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Well according to this data, women in the U.S. spend about 4.5 hours a day on unpaid work, compared to 2.8 hours for men. Not only is there a clear imbalance in the amount of unpaid home labor being done, but also the types of labor each partner does. Men tend to do more outdoor work (yard work, car maintenance, errands). Women tend to do much less desirable tasks such as laundry, dishes, cleaning, cooking, changing diapers, etc. The reason men’s tasks are more desirable is because the chores th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:41 AM
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Many women don’t want all that male attention. You used the word “drown” and I think that’s apt. A lot of us would prefer to be left alone for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:48 AM
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Because it’s all about choice. The “in” in incel literally stands for “involuntary” after all, meaning they desire to be with a woman but cannot due to their own inadequacies. Along with their hateful opinions and lazy lifestyles, this is why they are called losers. A man or woman who CHOOSES to live alone and support themselves isn’t a loser at all. They’re a functional member of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:45 AM
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I really feel bad for people like you who have never had a stable, mutually supportive and loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:33 AM
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I love when some entitled retarded male comes on here and lectures ME about what I find attractive😂 you have no clue what a woman wants or how we think, feel, and act. Stay lonely with your nasty unwashed ass and stinky balls. Go take a power bath.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:16 PM
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Has nothing to do with your height or neurodivergence and everything to do with your bitter attitude. You seem like a perpetual victim and sound so, so whiny. As a woman I would not date you because you complain too much and seem weak. The dating market is competitive and you have to be what women want to date. People have to earn the attention of the opposite sex by acting in ways that attract them, not repel them. Your loneliness is the fault of your own attitude, which is repelling women away…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:14 PM
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My first ex turned into an obese depressed alcoholic (guess I dodged a bullet there) and I have absolutely no clue about my second ex because I have him blocked on everything. I hope he’s doing terribly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:43 AM
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9 times out of 10, if a man cannot find love/sex/romantic connections, it is HIS fault because something is wrong with him (unless you are horribly disfigured or something else that really isn’t your fault). Men who understand and value women have no problems with intimate relationships. But women are now rejecting the guys who are sexist assholes and say shit like “I don't empathize much with women as a whole to care anymore because how easy they have it all in society” (How the hell would you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:26 AM
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Scenario 1: “sorry but no, I’m not into you like that/you’re just a friend.” If he persists then I say “it’ll never happen.” Scenario 2: my response will range from “no thank you” to “I have a boyfriend” to a very cold “not interested” to “go fuck yourself” depending on contextual factors and the manner of his cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:13 AM
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Whiny snowflake
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:09 AM
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My uncle got a mail order bride and he hates his fucking life. They are both so miserable. I think passport bros don’t really understand the reality of what they’re signing up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:54 AM
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Well then, many men are foul. Bunch of nasty sex-obsessed monkeys. I have nothing but contempt and ridicule for all of you so just stop speaking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:57 AM
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You pay for dates just do you can use a woman’s vagina? Jesus Christ you are foul. Shit like this is why I think men deserve nothing. That is so gross and I’m done speaking to such a degenerate. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:49 AM
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The average woman IS better than a prostitute. Some women expect men to pay because that is the standard MEN created. It’s amazing how men created that practice and set the expectation, yet you want to blame women for it. Reflect on the history of courtship and “traditional” provider-beneficiary gender roles. It was men who created it, men who keep doing it, and men who complain online about women who play their game. Seriously, just stop doing it and women will stop expecting it. You have all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:36 AM
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I can tell you don’t go on many dates. Tons of people go on dates every day that involve free activities, or they split the bill because women are tired of men expecting sex from them after paying for a date. There are park dates, coffee dates, beach dates, etc where the goal is for two people to get to know each other, not a man flexing how big his wallet is. However your greatest sin here is conflating paying for a date with prostitution. It’s disingenuous and offensive you’d even put the two …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:16 AM
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Did you know 105 men commit suicide every day in the US?🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:09 AM
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Yes I said women should stop prostituting themselves. Still waiting on you to admit men should stop purchasing sex (whether it’s a date or prostitution)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:04 AM
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Men need to take accountability for their own actions. If they don’t like it, they should stop doing it. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:02 AM
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Men are scum so I don’t expect anything less from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:00 AM
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Also, dummy, it was MEN who created the standard for paying for women on dates and providing for them. Men want to be the sole providers and protectors, yet they bitch and cry like little babies when it’s time to provide. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:56 AM
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You clearly have no understanding of how prostitution leads to the rape and subjugation of women. You have no idea how many women are forced into prostitution and would rather be doing ANY other line of work. I want you to read this report and tell me if you still think women in sex work aren’t victims of putrid male violence (https://icasa.org/docs/prostitution_-_draft-6.doc#:~:text=In%20a%20study%20involving%20prostitutes,had%20been%20raped%20in%20prostitution.) Some highlights: —79% of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:54 AM
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I’ll never listen to a male about women’s liberation. You don’t get to tell me the best way to liberate myself from male oppression. One way women can achieve that is to stop trading our bodies for money to help loser men cum. In no way will that ever benefit women in the long run because it reduces our bodies to mere objects for male sexual pleasure. Anything that solely benefits male’s penises at the expense of women’s personhood is an L for all women. This isn’t about agency. I have the agenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:32 AM
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A few might, but I don’t give a shit. I hate those women because they allow men to view all of us as nothing more than a cum sock. I have sympathy for the victims of the disgusting males who pay for sex. I have disdain for the women who gladly participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:56 AM
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Yes most of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 04:43 AM
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I just checked my Bumble. I have 11,500+ men who have liked my profile, waiting to talk to me. I HAVE to be selective and only pick the best ones because there’s no way I’m going to sit there and talk to every single one of them. Plus many of them are just…gross
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:02 PM
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That would be my personal utopia. I’m SICK of men’s obnoxious sex drives and obsessions with porn and sex and cumming. Makes me resent them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:59 PM
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Red pilled men don’t respect women because they are hateful bitter misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:56 PM
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No that’s middle school behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:54 PM
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Yes the fuck they do😂 every single day on here. You just don’t see it that way due to your male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:53 PM
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Autistic men often struggle with dating because many of them can’t read social cues, or they dominate conversations with topics only they care about, or they are loud/obnoxious, or they say inappropriate things, or they treat women as some sort of foreign mystical creature rather than just a normal person. If a woman doesn’t want to put up with any of that, I wouldn’t call her ableist. She just has much better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:49 PM
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Yeah I think the majority of men here are lonely losers who blame women for their misery so they don’t have to face their own glaring inadequacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:40 PM
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You just accused someone else of having gender bias, but you don’t have it? So I guess you’re either non-binary or intellectually dishonest. Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:34 PM
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How is any of that shit pro-female? We don’t like those things either, except for bookworm types of both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:27 PM
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Yeah… the $500 BILLION beauty industry disagrees with you. The pressure to look beautiful to please the male gaze is incomparable to anything men go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:21 PM
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Yeah I think OP doesn’t get out much and definitely doesn’t interact with many women considering the faulty generalizations he’s making. He likely spends most of his time online or surrounded by men if he seriously thinks this is what all women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:18 PM
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That’s your male bias
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:05 PM
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You’re wrong. Everything about your post is wrong. This comment you’re responding to is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:59 PM
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Yes. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:35 PM
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Blah blah blah I ain’t reading all that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:48 PM
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Men will always benefit more than women in almost every aspect of society. I’m not debating that. I think you’re talking about the outcome of women looking nice, whereas I’m talking about my motive to look nice in the first place. I do it to benefit myself. If men also benefit from it, then that’s just an unfortunate casualty. If I can use their sexual weaknesses to my advantage, then I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:04 PM
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You’re missing my point. I don’t get ready in the morning thinking “omg I hope men find me pretty today🥺 I hope my appearance will please the men and they will validate me🥺” as the original post is suggesting. My motivation for looking good is much different than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:48 PM
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….yes I just said that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:17 PM
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Ehh I’m gonna have to disagree slightly. Yes, of course men simping is going to inflate SOME women’s heads. But then there’s women like me who find it fucking annoying and pathetic. It doesn’t hype me up because I don’t value what those losers think of me—at all. Some of them will send me money either for no reason at all, or I give them a few feet pics and they send me a couple hundred. Of course I’m going to take their money because they’re fucking throwing it at me. You would too. But by no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:28 AM
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Same way people met, dated, and fucked since the dawn of time: we meet people out in public😂😂 No but in all seriousness, men literally throw themselves at women. I can go out to the bars any day of the week and take a man home like it’s nothing. Men are very easy to bag tbh so we don’t need dating apps. We just need to exist and be semi-attractive and the men will swarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:44 AM
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But in this case, looking good is not for men. It’s to benefit us by using something men happen to find valuable. The goal wouldn’t be, “I hope I can satisfy men today to please them!” It’s, “I’m going to use my looks to my advantage to benefit myself.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:34 AM
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We are the smaller ones in society, and the comparatively bigger men are constantly hunting us (for sex, relationships, emotional dumping, rape, murder, whatever…we are always being hunted)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:26 AM
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We should stop thinking about it in terms of “sides” (and I’m guilty of it too at times). People go through shitty things in life. People struggle to date. People often fail to acknowledge their shortcomings. Those things are not and shouldn’t be gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:37 PM
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You sound really miserable
/r/MensRights25/04/23 07:31 PM
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You don’t know anything about me lmfao my boyfriend is very emotionally available and expressive. That’s why I love him. Not all women act and think the same, and that’s your biggest problem in your faulty logics. Also, the “ick” just means she was never really interested in you in the first place. The “ick” is sort of a faulty construct, or at least grossly misunderstood. Sorry that happened to you so many times though.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 12:44 PM
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I can’t take you seriously if you say shit like “gigachad” but ok here we go. It’s a myth that chads are dominating the sex market because that’s all women want. It’s men who base the decision to fuck almost solely on looks. Women don’t choose to have sex just based on looks alone. We also base it on personality, feelings of comfort, mutual connection between the two of us, and for some women, a man’s money/status. I would say a big reason for the sexless male “issue” is that there’s just less s…
/r/MensRights20/04/23 06:26 AM
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I’m not going to respond to your full comment because I’m tired, but I did read it all. I’ll respond to the part you said was most important. Honestly? That image you shared? I 100% agree with it. It’s not meant to offend you or to shit on men. You are supposed to internalize the message and learn to think about your flirting behaviors before you do them. Why? Because there are millions of creepy, abrasive men who do not know how to behave civilly around women. Men keep yelling as us in public, …
/r/MensRights20/04/23 05:58 AM
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Dude the reason we “struggle to listen to you” is because everybody experiences that shit. Men, women, we ALL get cheated on and abused and hurt. It’s like one starving African kid complaining to the next, “I’m hungry.” Yeah, same here bro, I don’t know what you want me to do about it?? Look sometimes you’re going to be a good person in a relationship with another good person, and sometimes you’re going to end up with a lying piece of shit. You can’t let that negative experience define the rest …
/r/MensRights20/04/23 04:21 AM
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Yeah I’m sorry that happened, but that doesn’t disprove anything I said in the original comment. That’s just your terrible anecdotal experience. She was probably super immature and wasn’t committed to you, it has nothing to do with how you acted in the relationship. You being a nice guy did not cause the cheating. Your partner’s shitty morals caused the cheating. Correlation does not equal causation.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 03:43 AM
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Bro AND? I’ve been cheated on by dudes too, what’s your point?
/r/MensRights20/04/23 03:33 AM
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Incels lie on a spectrum. Incel literally means “involuntary celibate,” so anyone who is a virgin but doesn’t want to be technically falls into that category. Some of them are violent and hateful, but not all. What they all share in common is a desire to be loved/touched, but an inability to find a willing partner for whatever reason (personality, looks, social skills, attire, hygiene, low self-esteem, mental health issues, financial situation, living situation, etc) But I will say that not all …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:36 AM
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Respectfully, you’ve got some pretty extreme negative illusions about the world. I really do feel sorry for you because you seem like you’ve gone through a lot of hurt and rejection in your life that’s changed you. I’m sorry that people have mistreated you and I really hope you can access some type of therapy to work through those issues. I feel you could seriously benefit from it. I also feel like you need to get off the internet and out of these toxic discourse circles you’re in, because your …
/r/MensRights20/04/23 02:27 AM
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I’ll add therapy to that list as well (not meant in a derogatory way)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:58 AM
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It’s the totality of who they are that repels women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:54 AM
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You’re honestly too dense to have a conversation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:52 AM
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And the point I made was that you have clearly never experienced real love from a woman before. Millions of men all around the world love and are loved by their wives/girlfriends. I love my boyfriend because of his mind and his personality. My parents and all the couples in my family are stable and in love. I’m constantly surrounded by mutually loving couples, even ones who are living below the poverty line so money isn’t a factor at all as you wrongly claimed. You might have just come from a tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:27 AM
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It all comes down to (1) desire to date, and (2) ability to score a partner. Desire + no ability = incel No desire + ability = single by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:18 AM
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Sorry but if your Reddit posts reflect your irl personality, then I can’t really blame ‘em. It don’t seem you offer much for women to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:08 AM
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Go look at his post history over the past 2 months and see if you still feel sorry for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:52 PM
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So why don’t you just stop dating women? I’m serious. Just stop talking to women, thinking about them, talking about them, jacking off to them. You know you can date men or stay single, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:50 PM
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I do but I don’t. On one end, he’s clearly hurt and lonely. On the other end, he’s spreading more overly generalized anti-woman discourse to other vulnerable and/or hateful men. It’s not ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:41 PM
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You know, for someone named “TurtleDickSlap” you’re pretty soft lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:04 PM
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It so obvious you’ve never been in a successful relationship and nobody has ever loved you. Really pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:56 PM
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Men are INFAMOUS for handling rejection poorly wtf are you talking about😂😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:53 PM
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There’s a certain homoeroticism in TRP that makes me giggle lol. They love men soooooo much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:47 PM
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Well listen I genuinely hope you find peace and contentment in this lifetime. Whatever that means for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:55 PM
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We clearly value different things in life. I value intimate human connection, relationships, love, quality time, experiences, adventures, humor, intellectual conversation, pursuit of hobbies and passions, and a vibrant social life. I’m looking to get out of life the most well-rounded, memorable, and socially and spiritually connected experience that I can possibly muster alongside the friends, family, and lovers that make my human experience complete. You value things like being “right,” appeara…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:11 PM
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I don’t disagree that there’s a lot of man-hating feminists today, but that’s not the only explanation (and they are not the majority). I think the issue of sexless men is also a failure on men’s part to adapt to the current times. Women historically depended on men to survive, and that’s a major factor that kept relationships together in the past. Today, women are no longer financially dependent on men. I don’t need to marry a man to survive. Yet, some men today still believe that their only ro…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 05:24 PM
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There’s no contradiction homie. Everyone deals with struggles in life. Assholes are everywhere, but so are good people. You’ve probably repelled a lot of good people on your conquest to project your own despair onto them. Tbh, I would not keep you in my life if this is how you act. You’re a drag. Happy people don’t want that in their lives. Any well-adjusted person can clearly see you’re only contributing to the misery in the world rather than nutting up and dealing with your issues head on. Fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:25 PM
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Everyone gets shit from everyone. Life is hard. Grow the fuck up and go to therapy instead of projecting your misery onto others. I’m so sick of y’all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:05 AM
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1000% agree! I am so sick of the blatant misogyny and aggressive anti-woman sentiments constantly being pushed on this sub. They just flock here to blame women for every problem under the sun from dating to finances (I didn’t know us women had so much power to destroy the world! Wow!) And so many dudes on here absolutely refuse to argue in good faith or see any other perspective but their own. They will defend anything that men do, no matter how heinous. When discussing male on female violence, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:36 AM
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Right? This sub is being overtaken by a bunch of circle jerking mouth breathers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:43 AM
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Did you know that, of all major welfare programs (including assistance for healthcare, food, housing, supplemental income, and social security) the recipients are about 51% female and 49% male? This is according to the US Census Bureau. It’s astounding to me that you’re blaming women for all the world’s problems and your own financial/relationship issues. It’s low-IQ, low-effort, and comical tbh. Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:40 AM
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That’s how I felt reading this, that these “inequalities” and “pressures” are all mostly caused and perpetuated by men. Bro is upset at the wrong gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 06:41 PM
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That’s exactly what I meant. That + their addictions to twisted sex fantasies like sniffing feet and being made to crawl around like a submissive piggy. Porn has ruined so many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:20 PM
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I would never tell a man to lower his standards. Men’s standards are in the gutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:28 AM
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I’m a little confused because I didn’t say anything about incels? But incels over-value themselves all the time. They think they deserve hot virgin wives yet offer nothing themselves. Sorry but I do think both my lines of reasoning hold some truth. A lot of men over-estimate their value, just like women do. It’s a human condition that isn’t necessarily gendered. In psychology they call them positive illusions, and one type is overly positive self-evaluations. Humans tend to A) heavily weigh thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:07 PM
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I disagree. Men AND women have the capacity to over-estimate their attractiveness. One example from personal experience: there’s WAY too many nasty old pigs who hit on women half their age. They have so much ego and cockiness in their approach as if we’d be lucky to have mediocre sex with some bald headed potbelly 50 year old. It’s embarrassing. But aside from the aging creeps, I think the average man might struggle to know how attractive (or not) he really is. I could be wrong, but I don’t thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:29 PM
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Idk why you’re trying to make this some gender debate? “Do you do XYZ with women” …like what’s the point of asking that? I argue with all sorts of people on all sorts of topics. I’m not making any sweeping generalizations of men at all. I was talking to one individual who I have had the misfortune of interacting with on this sub several times before. If you look at his post history, he’s made like 15 anti-woman posts in this sub in just two months alone. That to me SCREAMS maladjustment and mise…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:12 PM
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Well two reasons for this: (1) a good deal of average and below-average men tend to severely overestimate their attractiveness. They think they deserve women who are way out of their league because they have an inflated self-appraisal. The short nerdy guy might think he deserves a 5 or 6, when in reality he is a 3 himself. Of course many women do this too, but below-average women can still get fairly decent looking men because (2) there’s an over abundance of horny simps who will fuck and date b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:43 PM
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Where? Can you point to where I said “all men are X”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:38 AM
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I’m good with that tbh. From a woman’s perspective, I do not need to be approached by 20+ guys per night. If it lowers down to like 4 guys approaching me per night, I think that’s more manageable for me. I like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:23 AM
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Right but the larger point is that MeToo has absolutely nothing to do with the decline in socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:45 AM
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This dude is obsessed with makeup and hating on women who wear it. Go look at his post history. Very bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:24 AM
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You haven’t spoken any truths at all. You’re conflating fact and opinion, your claims lack sufficient evidence, and you’re committing ad populum and hasty generalization fallacies. And I’ll reiterate that you are completely obsessed with women. Women seem to have a lot of power over your mind and your life. Does that make you feel weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:11 AM
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No dude you view the world through a victim lens. You think you’re “speaking truth” but you only come off as jaded and hurt, just like all the other lonely bitter dudes. You have a perpetual victim mindset. To me you seem like a weak man. No matter how you try to justify it, that’s all I see. You are literally obsessed to the point of fixation. Women live in your head rent free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:29 AM
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It basically is. You’re screaming out for attention with obsessive posts hating on women. That communicates maladjustment, rumination, and possibly poor mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:46 AM
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So again, you’re maladjusted to life and struggle to connect with women in a meaningful way. There’s a piece missing from you if you enjoy feuding with the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:06 AM
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So why do you complain about dating and marrying women so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:39 AM
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You and everyone like you are completely lonely and miserable. That’s it. Have fun feeding into each other’s misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:22 AM
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Right but the problem is that you are taking your isolated negative experiences and applying them to half the world’s population. I am guessing you’re young and don’t have the maturity yet not to make sweeping generalizations that are deeply flawed, and yes, emotionally motivated. These are YOUR experiences, but they do not reflect some universal truth. Just the “truth” that you and similar men think is correct. None of the things you claim are absolute or universal. They are perceptions of real…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:49 PM
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Just the sheer amount of anti-woman posts you have made over the past 2 months tells me you are hurting, you are lonely, and you are maladjusted in your social/romantic life. Men who excel at forming relationships with women do not lash out like you do. They don’t make emotionally charged posts like that. Just because there are other emotionally unstable men who agree with you doesn’t mean y’all have a firm grasp on reality. You’re bonding through shared misery. Some people call it “coping.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:51 PM
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The people who post these things have zero clue how healthy relationships work and it shows ETA: I knew I recognized that username. This dude is a 🤡 It’s clear OP struggles with women, hates women, and is lonley af and can’t accept it. You should never accept dating advice from someone who cannot maintain a stable relationship themselves (or even start one). Just take a look through his post history OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS: “If it wasn't for sex, most men would not bother with women.” “Chasing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:25 PM
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I’m sitting here trying to think if I’ve ever been rejected BEFORE sex happens and I honestly can’t think of an example? In my experience, if a man wants sex or a relationship bad enough, he will continue the pursuit until he either gets it or I reject him. I’ve only experienced rejection after sex, where I wanted to continue a relationship but he just wanted sex. In that case, the rejection hurts of course, and I think two things: (1) I shouldn’t have fucked him, and (2) he’s a shallow dick and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:57 AM
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Thank god not all men think like this jackass. I avoid men like him LIKE THE PLAGUE. He’s so dense and ignorant it hurts. My favorite part was when he said women have no business caring who their man sleeps with because it “doesn’t ruin investment.” LMAO. He understands nothing of romantic commitment, or the risk of spreading STDs/impregnating another woman, or leaving the wife lonely at home every night to tend to the kids while he goes out and fucks other women to his dick’s desire. Men like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:58 PM
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Much of what redpill men believe is deeply hypocritical. Like how women are dirty whores for enjoying sex, but men are allowed to have drunken one night stands and it’s okay. Or when they rail against “whores” who have abortions, but they’ll encourage the poor girl they knock up to have one because they don’t want the responsibility. Or when they cry “society treats men like they’re disposable!! Women just want us to slave away and give them all our money!!” But then they want a dependent trad w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:40 PM
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I think it’s probably harder for ND men to date, but it truly depends on the individual and how they act. I have some ND male friends who are sweet, quirky, awesome people and they have made or would make excellent partners. However, I know 3 ND dudes who are honestly rude and sometimes hard to be around. They interrupt people, hijack conversations, and say things that come off as disrespectful (but probably don’t realize it). Sad to say, but not many women want to put up with that. So it all ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:52 AM
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Cause too many of y’all are weirdos and give me reasons daily to loathe you. Daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:47 AM
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Why would I say that women suck just because some chick made a weird video?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:59 AM
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Where did I defend the video? Point to it. Quickly. (Two things can suck at once, both men and the video)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:58 PM
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I love how you continue to rag on women and can’t just accept that you might be homosexual. It’s okay if you’re not attracted to women bro. Just go suck cock, nobody is stopping you. What’s so funny to me is the images you see of women who are “natural” are actually wearing a ton of face makeup and the images are heavily edited, but your ignorance prevents you from seeing it. Makeup wasn’t invented by “men,” it was invented by the ancient Egyptians, both male and female. Just admit you know noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:56 PM
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There’s simply nothing wrong with makeup. If she wears it every day and it only takes a quick half hour to apply, then that is what you’re attracted to because it’s what you’re seeing daily. That’s a part of her routine and part of her physical identity. You act like a woman will lure you in with makeup and then become an absolute troll and stop caring for herself after she hooked you. What man doesn’t want a woman who puts effort into looking pretty for him and for herself? Your final comment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:06 PM
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Fr. There’s so many wonderful men in my life who create mutual understanding and sympathy for respective gendered issues in dating. It’s not hard to realize that both men and women have strengths and weaknesses, triumphs and tribulations. Dudes like OP are too narrow-minded and self-centered to earnestly attempt to understand another perspective. He’ll always be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:23 PM
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I think men do a good job of inciting hatred of men all on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:10 PM
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You are stuck in the 50s my dude. Women and men both contribute to the household. Why would a woman want to take on some deadbeat who can’t help pay the bills? If men don’t want to take on a deadbeat woman, then they should raise their standards. But pussy is more important to men, so they don’t care if she’s jobless. That’s on y’all. Also who gives a Ronald McFuck if someone wears makeup? How does that impact you in any way? That’s such a non-issue. All your favorite female celebrities and porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:08 PM
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Hahaha thanks!😂😂 and yeah I agree with you that there is nuance to the gym/grocery store thing. My friend actually is going on a date this weekend with her “gym bae” lol, but they had talked at the gym before and have been flirting with each other for the past couple months, so there was an established connection prior to him asking her out. Cold approaching a stranger at the gym or the store is almost always a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:21 PM
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I would say eye contact and a smile is the only safe option to approach someone, unless it’s an awkward forced smile. Eye contact alone is NOT a good indicator because my eyes cross lots of peoples paths daily, doesn’t mean I want to talk to them. Typically when I’m interested in a guy I will face him head on, make lots of eye contact, and smile at him a lot or laugh at something he does. My body language clearly signals that I’m open to meeting him. Honestly, I have no problem approaching a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 08:12 PM
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Thanks so much for your kind words! I grew a lot from the experience and I have healed from it. My ex is a sinister person with a dark spirit, and I know his life will always be wrought with turmoil. Being with him caused me to seek out peace, so I only wish to surround myself with people who exude peace and live a joyous, simple life. It’s a compliment to the people I keep in my life now because it means they carry light and positivity with them. Similarly, if a woman were to select you because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:36 PM
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Yeah but a ton of men string women along, giving her false hope of commitment and flat out lying to her just so they can use her body to sexually relieve themselves. It can be demoralizing and leave your body and spirit feeling like a used cum rag. Whereas for men it’s like, she violated you by taking your….friendship? The two are not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:12 AM
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As a woman, thank you SO MUCH for saying this. I always hate when I express my fear of men and the dudes on here proceed to demean and insult me. “ITS NOT ALL MEN CRAZY BITCH!” Yeah, we are aware, asshole. But there’s enough men out there who are violent/deranged/overly horny to make it a significant problem that impacts everybody in society. It’d be a lot easier if all the dangerous men walked around with “I’m a violent psychopath” tattooed on their foreheads, but they don’t. So I keep my gaze …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:57 AM
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Well, my last ex beat the shit out of me and put me in the hospital with a concussion. So after that I made the conscious effort to seek men who made me feel safe, protected, and relaxed, which is the exact opposite of my ex. My current bf is someone who I feel guards me with his life, and it feels so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:44 AM
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These are just my personal preferences. Height has to be at least 5’8 ish (I’m very short so doesn’t matter much to me). My man doesn’t have to be a gym god, but I will not date an obese man nor a scrawny/lanky guy, so he should put some effort into building muscle and taking care of himself like I do. And as for facial features, I don’t have any that I look for specifically but I do have some disqualifiers (messed up teeth, deformities, pockmarked skin, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:58 AM
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But you said it’s “shallow” to have standards like mine and I don’t agree with that assessment. Would you be willing to date a woman who is either older, ugly, fat, or a single mom? Jw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:42 AM
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Why should we lower any standard? I have no problem finding men who are both attractive and have great personalities. So why would I pick a fat/old dude when I can have a guy who has the full package? If I lowered my standards it would only benefit you. I see no clear benefit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:29 AM
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I love you for this post. Thank you sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:34 AM
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I have incredibly high standards for men. That’s because I don’t need a man in my life and am perfectly fine with being single. I don’t want kids or a family. I’ll only allow a man in my life if I feel he will add to it (and I don’t need his money, so he has to add things like humor, stimulating conversation, a personality that meshes with mine, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:16 AM
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Do you have any data to support your claim that “virtually all women expect their man to be a provider with a lot of money?” I’d like to know before I respond to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:26 AM
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Haven’t you heard? That not all women want to be financially dependent on a man? That some of us prefer to pay for our own shit? Surely someone must have mentioned this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:18 AM
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When all you turds say we “expire at 25,” then no, it’s not easy. It’s literally an impossible expectation to put on women. Plus, we provide for our god damn selves on top of that. I’ve been working my ass off in higher education for 9 years and still get pummeled all the time with societal expectations to remain young and beautiful forever. Double whammy. You are totally ignorant to the female experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:08 AM
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Everything in the realm of human perception is subjective bud. Every movie review, restaurant review, hotel review is subjective, as are the reviews on said dating forums. You didn’t even ask what I meant by “douchebaggery.” I’m talking about lying, cheating, sleeping around with multiple women at the same time, etc. Classic douchebag behaviors. Yes, those behaviors deserve to be called out and shamed. No, they aren’t “minor slights.” I’m glad women are doing it and I’m proud that the public sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:09 PM
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The conversation is about rating men online for their shitty dating behaviors. I offered a pretty balanced review of those platforms. You divert the conversation into territory that’s more comfortable for you (i.e. “WoMeN bAd!!”) because you can’t engage with the meat of my original comment. So you create an argument that nobody is making just to knock it down and claim pseudo-victory. & there’s no appeal to emotion in my comment. I’ve simply stated what these review pages are used for, the good…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:10 PM
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That is exactly what you did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:51 PM
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That’s a straw man; nobody is arguing that. Logical fallacy, low-effort response, I give it a 2/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:32 PM
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Because guys on dating apps are often overwhelmingly douchebags and it deserves to be discussed openly. Just don’t be a complete tool and you won’t get called out online. & sir you are free to create whatever web forum you want. Go make your own dating review page for women. I have a feeling it won’t be as popular though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:24 PM
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Yes❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:58 AM
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Worse HOW? Worse BY WHAT MEASURE? Lmao omg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:12 AM
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I am not now nor have I ever been or ever will be a sugar baby. I am repulsed by old men. I initially wanted clarification as to what you are measuring when you say “worse.” Can you provide that or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:57 AM
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I asked simple questions about your post for you to clarify your point, but you’re incapable of doing that. Is it because there wasn’t much thought put into the post to begin with? I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:48 AM
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Someone made a lazy post on Reddit just to say you don’t like dating whores
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:42 AM
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Don’t talk to me like I’m a child. You’re obviously free to reject whoever you want. But then you come on Reddit ranting that sugar babies are worse than prostitutes because of this negative dating experience. Worse at what? What are you measuring?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:33 AM
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“I really like this pretty girl…I hope she wants to touch my penis c:” ….”grrrr she’s a dirty whore who touches other men’s penises >:( I must tell Reddit”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 03:16 AM
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Don’t celebrities get annoyed with fans and paparazzi constantly annoying them? That’s the same principle but to a far lesser degree. Don’t invalidate somebody’s experience because YOU never have to deal with it. You have no idea what it’s like to be approached by hoards of horny, nasty men all the time so I don’t really care your opinion on the matter. Muting this now, have a merry Christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:50 AM
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99.9% of the time when men approach me, it DOESNT work and I think it’s a burden. It worked for one very attractive, charming man in my life. Most men aren’t that at all, and I wish they would never speak to me. But again, I just deal with it because it never stops and there’s nothing I can do about it. So you will just have to deal with us complaining. We all just have to deal with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:37 AM
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Because 99.9% of the time when a guy approaches me I DO want to be left alone. It’s simply overwhelming. I get approached constantly in the street, at bars, in stores, at the beach, online, it just never ends. And the overwhelming majority of men who approach me are undateable. Not to mention a lot of them approach like horny pigs. Two things can be true at the same time: I’m thankful my boyfriend found me and approached me, but it’s still very unfortunate that I have to deal with undesirable me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:30 AM
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I literally said “a lot of us” and never claimed to speak for all women so calm down. My current boyfriend approached me at a bar and we’ve been dating for a year. But yeah dude, it is exhausting. You wouldn’t understand because you don’t get approached like we do. After the fifth guy to approach me in one night, yeah I start to get fucking annoyed and want to be left alone. I’m not rude to them but definitely short with them in my rejection. & they just need to accept that they are # 5 to attem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 02:09 AM
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Yeah I think a lot of us get exhausted being approached all the time & we’re allowed to vent about it online, just like you are doing right now. But I see no evidence of widespread “vilification” that you speak of. We mostly just want men to leave us alone in public & I see nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 01:47 AM
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How do you define “being angry”? Like can you give examples of things that have happened to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 01:11 AM
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HAHAHAH omg I adore your response. So he’s just mad that sugar babies aren’t regarded as “dirty whores” like traditional sex workers are because it didn’t work out between him and some chick he wanted to date. Solid reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 01:06 AM
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No. Women shouldn’t shit on a guy for shooting his shot respectfully. BUT I think men over exaggerate women who “vilify” them for cold approaching. Saying “no” or otherwise rejecting a guy isn’t vilifying him. It’s just a rejection. I think a lot of men are too sensitive to basic rejection and they perceive that it’s some violation of basic decency to be shot down. It’s just part of approaching women that you’re going to be rejected often & y’all need to deal with it gracefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:56 AM
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BREAKING NEWS: Water Wet! No offense OP but this is an extremely lazy post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:41 AM
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What do you mean by “worse”? Worse at what? Like what are you actually measuring here? Confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:39 AM
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Never gonna happen. Think of it like sales. Some people are gonna tell a sales person politely “no thank you” while some are going to rudely tell them to fuck off. When you’re approaching a person asking for their time and attention, you should expect and anticipate the full range of potential responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:31 AM
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All I took from this is that there’s a lot of violent men out there of whom I should be leery Edit: I’d like to add that the crimes women are more likely to fall victim of are more emotionally devastating (minus murder, which is the worst crime of all and more male-dominated). I would much rather be beat up or jumped than raped. Women have a much higher chance of being raped and human trafficked, which is my main concern when some weirdo approaches me in the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 11:27 PM
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Civil discourse? On PPD??? It would be a Christmas miracle😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 11:19 PM
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Without any context just looking at the images alone, I’d let Viktor wreck me. He looks very daddy. + I can change him…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:30 PM
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I’d bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:39 AM
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Your post = unintelligible You = angry at pretty women for vague somethings Others redditors = confused
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:02 AM
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Yeah lol I’ve seen several comments agreeing that they don’t really understand your argument here. You yourself even made a comment that “it’s hard to explain verbally.” Imo I think you need to regroup, isolate the central idea you’re trying to convey, and figure out how to articulate it so it makes sense to others. Because right now it just seems like incoherent ramblings about pretty girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:52 AM
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No offense OP but I read your whole post and your comments and I fr have no idea what you’re talking about. Are you saying you think all attractive women are shallow, narcissistic, or have BPD and therefore cannot maintain meaningful friendships? Or all attractive women only keep other women around them to boost their egos? If that’s what you’re trying to argue I think you’re just silly and projecting your own feelings about pretty women, not making an objective observation about lived reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 02:48 AM
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See I’m on the fence about these type of groups. My city has one and some girls use it to trash dudes, make fun of them, rate their sexual performance, reveal personal info, etc. which is totally not cool (and possibly illegal?) On the other hand, many women have posted info that is absolutely necessary to keep other women safe. I’ve seen posts from women reporting that a man assaulted her, abandoned her somewhere public with no way to get home, knowingly gave her an STD, stalked/harassed her, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:47 AM
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Sad that your daughter will grow up with a dad who generalizes all women as “picky and delusional.” That’s pretty disrespectful & includes your daughter, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:55 PM
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I think just a sliver of your motivations for writing this post come from your own personal frustrations with online dating success. Nobody gets THAT upset for other men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:20 PM
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Social skills matter in OLD when it’s obvious you DONT have them. For example, when someone puts in their bio “what’s wrong with [opposite gender] nowadays? All of you act like X and you only want Y. Guess I’m single forever!! Tired of this app!!!” But other than that it’s like 90% about physical attraction because what else is there to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:18 PM
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Men who get lots of women or men who have one quality woman don’t complain online like you did lol. You’re telling on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:13 PM
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Fr I can tell many of these men have very little experience dating women in real life. They treat it like a hallmark move or porn lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:21 PM
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“Women are delusional and picky” what a weird way of saying you don’t get any matches on tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:17 PM
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Depends on his attitude. If he’s like “yeah bro I banged three different girls Thursday Friday and Saturday, high five!” Then no he’s going in the reject pile
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:46 PM
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Damn it seems my threshold is a bit higher than some😂 that’s okay. I’m 26F, n = 23, I consider a high N count to be 60+ and would not date a guy in that range unless he’s a reformed hoe and did most of his hoe-ing in college. I don’t really care much about body count though as it’s just one metric of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:48 AM
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I would just tell him the truth (23) I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of and if he does then we’re incompatible
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:37 PM
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Considering men can cum in a dirty sock….probably pretty bad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:57 PM
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I think it’s fine not to want to date anybody who has a high body count, and everyone has their own limit. It just means our values are incompatible if you take joy in having lots of casual sex and I don’t. I also think it’s reasonable to reject prospective partners who have done sexual acts you find gross. For me, two men having anal sex is just gross in itself (the lingering poop particles, the entangled pubes, the sweaty balls slapping together, the smells…) like sorry but I find it physicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:00 AM
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It depends. I think a lot of the guys here are pretty combative and unwilling to take the perspective of a woman, whereas I am more than capable of taking a man’s perspective. So if he’s one of those, then hell no. I can’t argue with an arrogant brick wall. But I’ve also talked to some cool dudes here who seek understanding and share their perspectives respectfully. The ratio is a little off between these two groups, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:51 AM
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Straw man, nobody’s arguing that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:44 AM
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“I’m good at sex therefore all men are good at sex” is a bad argument And what experience do you have having sex with men? How would you know how they perform? I’m telling you dude, a lot of them are bad and selfish (from personal experience and from stories I hear from friends). It’s not a sex fantasy to want to orgasm. The same study reports that 86% of lesbian women orgasm every time. Did it ever occur to you that women “just don’t enjoy sex” because men are bad at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:26 PM
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100%. Actually the fact that men are “not attracted to me” is great. Unfortunately though, they still are and they won’t leave me alone. If a man never whistled at me or approached me for the rest of my life I think I would be much happier. How narcissistic of OP to think that his sexual gaze is even wanted in the first place lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:55 AM
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Sorry if that comment came off a little cunt-y. I didn’t exactly mean it that way. What I mean is, when women let a scary man down easily, it’s not to protect his feelings or ego. It’s so we don’t trigger an angry response from him (insults, yelling, or worse…) If I can sense his bravado and aggression brewing underneath, I’m extremely cautious and “nice” in my rejection to protect myself. I couldn’t give two fucks about his actual feelings because he doesn’t care about mine. However, for me, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:22 AM
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You can let a man down gently or you can let him down firmly. Gently would be things like “you’re such a sweet guy, I’m just not looking for anything right now” or “thank you so much for your offer, I really do appreciate it, I’m just not looking to date right now” basically cushioning the rejection in compliments and false hope. I do not think this is always the best option. (I know I said “it’s best to let him down gently” but that’s if we are just considering safety through flattery. These re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:55 AM
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I think there’s a lot of great men out there who are conventionally attractive and there’s also a ton of great men who were not blessed with good looks. But what I’ve found is that both attractive AND unattractive men have the capacity to be lame, boring, mean, corny, or emotionally unhinged. So why would I even entertain an ugly/fat/old dude when he’s just as likely to be a piece of shit? I might as well just stick to the attractive ones and try to find a good one in that range. There are plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:45 AM
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Lmao omg yes!!😂 how cathartic that would be! I actually do that sometimes when nasty men DM me nasty things. I just went back through my insta DMs and located this interaction between me and some dirty old fuck: Dirty old fuck: “Hello hun. I am looking for a fun, casual and sexual relationship with a younger, sexy and great woman. I was hoping you might be interested. Would you care to chat.” My response: “Hi there. I am uninterested for three reasons: 1.) I don't meet up with strange old men on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:32 AM
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We understand perfectly fine why we don’t like a man. Some of y’all just don’t want to accept your flaws and expect us to tell you what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:24 AM
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Yes that’s exactly it. We don’t want to offend him or set him off (not because we care about him, but because we care about ourselves). To some men, a big fat “NO!” alone is offensive to them and can set them off. So its best to let him down as gently as possible so he doesn’t become overly emotional and aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:23 AM
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FOR REAL LOL “you’re going to trigger my anger!!” So then go to therapy and develop coping tools like I had to??? Fucking baby
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:15 AM
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Yeah 100% OP has clearly never had to reject a man before. You can be sweet/vague, polite/firm, or bitchy/direct, but no matter which method you pick you will get one of three responses: 1.) he will take it on the chin and accept it respectfully 2.) he will ignore your rejection and keep trying 3.) he will respond with aggression and vulgarity It’s impossible to tell how a man will respond, which is why so many women opt for the sweet/vague route. It’s the least likely to result in aggression (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:55 AM
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Fr I have zero problem approaching guys I’m interested in/attracted to. That was actually my preferred method of meeting men for years before I met my bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:06 AM
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Hmm yeah maybe we see/interact with different types of people. Majority of my friends would never do OF and would not blame a man for thinking OF is gross. And still I think lots of other women might support a woman’s right to do OF if she wants, but they still wouldn’t shame and demean a man for not liking it. I think those types are rare but loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:27 PM
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Yeah and I’ve seen men self identify as such
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:22 PM
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This 10000%!!! Anecdotal evidence, but I fell very hard for a virgin man before. I tried my best to entice him to date me/sleep with me, but he wouldn’t budge. He was strong and confident in his convictions. It made me want him even more. Obviously this is not a general rule of thumb. You will still face rejection. But if you’re confident and have other major qualities a woman wants, your virgin status is not at all a deficit to a woman of quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:08 PM
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Yes, exactly the response I was going to give. Lots of virgin men are trying so hard to improve themselves; I think they just need guidance and time, and if they never give up, they will one day achieve their goals. (Though, I understand someone who is horribly disfigured/disabled is going to have a tough time..I won’t say “never,” but, ya know…) The incels I’m talking about gave up long ago because self improvement was too difficult. They could improve themselves and not be incels, but they’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:55 PM
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I would not say the vast majority of us think that way. Don’t let internet feminists distort your perceptions of reality. Most women aren’t online sharing their opinions on this issue. Head to the ‘burbs and ask those women how they feel. You’ll find that we agree with you: OF is harmful and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:50 PM
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I think those people are nuts and I don’t think they represent most of society. I agree with some tenets of modern feminism, but some things they just get absolutely duck tits wrong. Unquestioning support of OF and sex work is one of those things. “Suck dick for money, queen!” Is not the progressive flex they think it is. I don’t let my fellow sisters gaslight me into accepting that bullshit. They’re misguided imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:47 PM
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To say that your involvement in prostitution has zero harm to anybody is naive at best and willfully ignorant at worst. Harm to women - The majority of women don’t WANT to do sex work; they do it because they feel they have no choice. When asked “what do you want to be when you grow up?” 0% of little girls would answer “I want to make horny losers cum.” It’s degrading and filthy work that is incredibly damaging to a person’s psyche over time. Nobody wants to be a prostitute forever if they had o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:42 PM
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The overwhelming majority of women will never have to pay for a prostitute because there’s an over-abundance of horny men who will have sex with us pretty much whenever we want. Another reason we don’t pay for sex is because a lot of men suck at sex and we do not get nearly as much pleasure from it as men do (which is why we masturbate a lot). Shout out to the men who care about our orgasms and pleasure, y’all rock<3 And yes, I do think teens (both genders) should be taught that paying for sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:55 AM
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Well there’s just a lot to unpack here. Keep in mind, this entire discussion is about who I personally would want to date. First, gay men have nothing to do with this discussion of me not wanting to date men who pay for prostitution. Prostitution in general is something I find really gross no matter who does it. Gay men who pay for sex are no better…no idea where that argument even came from. Second, I think prostitution is extremely “socially nasty” and reflects men’s inability or unwillingness…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:25 AM
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Huh?? Sorry I’m not really understanding your comment or what gay men have anything to do with this. But all I can say is that sexual desire isn’t exactly the issue I have, it’s what a man chooses to do with that desire that I take issue with (i.e. paying for a prostitute)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:39 AM
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Not under my roof lol. Guys who take pictures like that are on some Anthony Weiner type shit. Of course a grown man can do whatever he wants, but I would never date someone who posts that kind of trash. Make money some other way or gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:09 AM
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Absolutely not. OF is pathetic and toxic to society. And on the flip side, I think men have every right to reject or dump a woman who posts on OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:55 AM
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I’m sorry that has happened to you! I would need more context to give a better answer, but I don’t think lying is a good idea (we usually find out anyway). Are these women specifically asking you? Or are you bringing it up? If they don’t ask, I just wouldn’t call attention to it bc it doesn’t matter. If they do ask, just respond casually and don’t make a big deal out of it. You can say “nah, I would like one but just haven’t found the right connection yet.” If you’ve had situationships or “fling…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:06 AM
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I actually don’t have a problem with a guy being a virgin. I know some women do because they want him to be “experienced” in bed, but I’ve slept with experienced guys before who are just awful. Pitiful. Embarrassing. So, I (and some of my friends) don’t care about virginity status alone. It’s all the other “incel” qualities that would disqualify a man, and not every virgin adult male has incel qualities. To me, those qualities include all the characteristics of sexual undesirability + victim min…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:43 AM
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I agree with you and I fully understand why a man might want to hire a prostitute. But the question is whether I personally would want to be with that man, and the answer is still no. If you’re struggling to get even one woman to touch you for any of the reasons you mentioned, I probably won’t want to date you either because there’s something wrong with you that is repelling women (could be looks, awkwardness, bad personality, whatever). I understand that that constant rejection could drive a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:03 AM
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No. There’s probably some nuanced reason why I would maybe be like “okay fine, I guess that makes sense,” but I cannot think of any such exemption right now. I can think of tons of reasons not to date a man who has fucked a prostitute, though. 1.) a lot of women who do sex work have been badly sexually abused in their adolescence. Sure, the sex is “consensual” now, but lots of women ended up there due to a lifetime of trauma, and I see paying for sex as contributing to that trauma or benefitting…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:45 AM
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See, there you go waging a gender war again. Nobody is asking you to “pay” for anything except to acknowledge the obvious harms that exist in the world and let others discuss these issues candidly without making it about yourself. & Unlike you, I actually care about men’s issues and inequalities. I teach a couple college courses and I literally just helped a student complete his final project on men’s mental health, a project I was heavily invested in. I could easily have said “ask a male teache…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:51 AM
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No I wouldn’t say that. I think I get approached by all types of men ranging in their level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:23 AM
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Can you point to where I said men don’t get attacked? I think you invented that claim. I just ask that you read my full response thoroughly and with an open mind. The evidence is pretty clear that men commit far more acts of violence than women do. It’s not even close. Rape, assault, murder, stalking, harassment…men dominate those activities. Of course we know it’s a fraction of men committing those crimes, but that fraction is wreaking havoc and they need to be exposed and punished. The problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:08 PM
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This 100%. The problem I have with a lot of the men in this sub is that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge the gender-based violence that women experience. They think any time we complain about creepy/violent men that we are calling ALL men creepy/violent, so they become defensive and nasty. I can say “I have been stalked, raped, followed home, and assaulted before” and the men here will jump down my throat, attack me, call me a liar or say I am exaggerating. I share the same experiences with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:13 PM
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As a woman, no, I have not seen a decline in the men who pursue me or the willingness of men who want to get to know me in that way. There’s definitely still a ton of men out there interested in and actively trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:39 AM
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I think some of my fellow women are way too selfish/entitled when it comes to dating, whereas many men overcomplicate the dating process and are also just too horny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:23 PM
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Dude I don’t WANT tons of men swarming me all the time, what don’t you get about that? It’s annoying and overwhelming when all I ever really want is ONE man or to just be alone. To me it’s not an abundance of some valuable resource because I don’t fucking want it. We can gladly swap places if you’d like. Edit: I’ll also add that you absolutely do not understand how vile many men are on dating apps. I stopped using them because the quality of men on there is depressing. All they want is sex and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:33 PM
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Oh lol sorry. That’s kind of hard to answer because I don’t have a “type.” All of them were men I found decently attractive (my definition of attractive). My total sample size is about 20. Two of them looked kinda like the main character from the Netflix show “You” (skinnier, pale, brunette men). One guy was a military dude, kinda looked like GI joe. Current bf kinda looks like OBJ. The rest are kind of average/unremarkable, but cute enough. But overall it has ranged from skinny-muscular, height…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:02 PM
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Some of them looked alright, some needed help with their appearance (see my other reply) and some I have no idea bc it was over the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:45 PM
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Yeah I wouldn’t know unless I met you. You very well might not be one, while some girls who met you might opine that you are. It all depends on the individual doing the judging because it’s a shaky construct in general. But imo fuckboy is more of an essence, a lifestyle, rather than a look. It’s like how some people don’t look like a drug addict, but there are telltale signs that they are one. I’ve met some 100% fuckboys that are maybe a 4 in terms of looks. It’s hard to define but I just know o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:03 PM
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If I was on a first date with a guy and he did those things, I would class him a fuckboy and he would not get a second date🤷🏼‍♀️ but everyone’s different I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:53 PM
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Well most guys I’ve dated I met in person, so I was able to see how they act in public, how they move, how they treat me, etc. My current boyfriend I met because he’s a security guard at a popular place in our city. He’s huge and I’ve watched him pick grown men off the ground and throw them out. So clearly he was a safe pick to take me on a date. When I used to use dating apps, I would sometimes judge guys by their career or hobbies (cops, military, firemen, martial artists, hunters/shooters, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:20 AM
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Of course there’s nuance, I agree. I know lots of shorter dudes who are scrappy and tough, like my dad. I think even as an older man he could kick some serious ass. I’m just using this criteria to decide who should take me out on a date or not, and there’s certain things I can read about a man that don’t make me confident he can protect me. Sure I could be wrong about a particular guy. But if there’s any doubt at all, I won’t go out with him because I have other options who leave no doubt that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:59 AM
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When I’m out in the dating world, I’m not going to wait until I see a man fight to determine whether he’s capable of protecting me. I’m going to use a set of exclusion criteria to narrow down my choices to the best suited for my preferences. You can think what you want, but I will continue to use this criteria. It’s never led me astray.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:42 AM
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First let me say that these are definitely generalizations I’m about to make and there’s nuance to each. There are a few things I look for to indicate he can’t or won’t protect me. The most obvious is physical size; if he has the body of a teen boy there’s no way he will be useful in a fight. If he looks like a preppy soft rich kid, no way he can fight. If he’s drunk off his ass or always using drugs, that’s not someone who is aware of surroundings or can hold himself well against a more sober m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:36 AM
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I help whomever needs it. But I think women sometimes need the help of men and vice versa. Sometimes we all need perspectives from the opposite sex if that’s who we are trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:17 AM
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Ehh I disagree. Most young people have no problem meeting in bars, clubs, college parties, friend groups, etc. I’m sure they also meet on dating apps but I’m not convinced OLD is the main way people meet today. & they needed help with lots of different things ranging from personality to looks to adjusting their expectations. Some dudes don’t realize their actions/words come off a certain way (either as bitter, creepy, rude, or just weird af). Also shyness is a big personality trait I helped some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:37 AM
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Just like how incels blame us for their misery
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:45 AM
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Thank you for this. Do we have an “advantage” in the sense that men are lined up for us in large masses? Sure. But are they all quality choices? No. Is parsing through them time consuming and overwhelming? Yes. Also, I think men overwhelming use dating apps for casual sex, which I’m not into. I’m not looking for a cheap dirty fuck, so I fail to see how OLD platforms give me an advantage in getting something I don’t even want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:44 AM
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Well that’s just not true. I’ve tried to help lots of low value men improve themselves. Some are grateful but most get super defensive and don’t want to change. And we don’t want to be approached in person if you do it wrong. The majority of men I’ve ever dated/slept with have been guys I met in person. And the majority of people who end up dating also meet in person. This article claims only 8% of people in relationships met online: https://www.bustle.com/p/the-most-popular-ways-people-are-meet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:34 AM
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Girl I’m sorry that happened to you but also that’s so fuckin funny😭😭 like why are they so damaged LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:22 AM
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Fuck boys are more obvious than you think. A dead give away is that they are not really interested in getting to know you as a person. If everything that comes out of his mouth is flirtatious, if he keeps complimenting your physical appearance, if he keeps making sexually charged jokes/comments, if he is overly comfortable touching you, and if the conversation is shallow, chances are he’s a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:53 PM
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It seems you do not understand the female experience. Like, at all. Harassment is just kind of a given that we all deal with (especially those of us living in big cities). I don’t understand your comment “only if 20 years is longer than you expect to live” it makes no sense. All I can say is that I think I will continue to face harassment for a long time on this earth, no matter what I do. Your comment that it’s easier to “not dress up” is ignorant. Rather than teaching men not to harass under a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:05 PM
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I think I will deal with harassment from men for another 20 years of my life, so your comment to just “wait it out” is nonsensical, impractical, and unhelpful. I’m also pointing out that older women still face crimes like sexual assault, so aging is not a good safety net either. Sure the harassment from men will drop significantly (can’t wait!) but it’ll never fully go away. I know lots of older women in my hometown who still deal with creeps, getting yelled at in the street, etc. because some d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:29 PM
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Thank you for your comment. It’s refreshing to see a man on this sub acknowledge that the world outside the internet can be harsh for everyone, and that exercising caution is necessary. My family worries for me as well because of all the crime I’m surrounded by and the several scary incidents I’ve had. You sound like a great brother and son to be concerned for your family members! As for being armed, I have two guns for home protection and I carry pepper spray on my keychain everywhere I go. I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:23 PM
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What an unhinged comment. Bad things can happen at any age, weirdo: https://www.wthr.com/amp/article/news/crime/older-women-are-victims-of-sexual-assault-too-why-dont-we-talk-about-it/531-b99c6b7a-483f-4b34-8e91-ec8ac630d392
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:01 PM
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Wtf😂 I do not think you interpreted my comment correctly. It’s “terrible” to assume that a protective and patient man is by default nice? You can’t be protective, patient, and safe while also being a jackass. Those things are in complete opposition. What I’m saying is, being nice is the bare minimum. My corner-store cashier is nice. My Uber driver is nice. My maintenance man is nice. It takes no effort to be nice and I kind of just expect everyone to be nice if they’re going to remain in my life…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:48 PM
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No but I live in a major US city with tons of criminals. I’ve been stalked, harassed, and grabbed by men where I live. It’s nice having a strong protective boyfriend when I go out, especially at night. Nobody fucks with me when I’m with him. When I’m alone I get followed, yelled at, approached in the street by rough looking men. That is the reality for a young attractive female.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:40 PM
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This is inaccurate and weird. I’ve rejected men before because I thought they would be either unwilling or incapable of protecting me in certain situations. Safety/protection is the single biggest quality I look for in a man. I want a man who will protect me when we are walking down the street should anything happen. I want a man who watches me walk to the door and get inside safely after dropping me off. I want a man who isn’t going to physically abuse me just because he’s bigger and he can. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:01 PM
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I think you do not understand women very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:56 PM
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“Nice” is the default. It’s kind of a lazy, reductive way of thinking about male qualities. I want a man who is protective, patient, manages his emotions well, and makes me feel safe around him. I would just assume a man like this also happens to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:54 PM
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Yeah I absolutely agree. As soon as I find out a guy is mentally unstable in any way I back out ASAP. Especially if a guy has unresolved trauma…that’s the worst kind of deficit to encounter in the dating world because all those emotional problems become YOUR problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:58 AM
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I’m unvaxxed and ready for a long winter of severe illness and death<3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:38 AM
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Well one problem I can infer is that it doesn’t seem you are approaching women to see if there’s a mutual connection, it seems you are approaching them hoping to do the right things to get what you want. And I don’t mean that insultingly, I think there’s a genuine disconnect in male/female worldviews. When I meet a man, I am NOT judging him and picking apart his flaws. I am not thinking of him as a possible sexual candidate at all, actually. Im usually just chatting with another human. If it tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:39 PM
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I think you’re right about economic collapse/war and I really hope we never experience that in our lifetime. & A lot of women don’t want to depend on a man for our every need because it’s very risky. What if we grow to hate each other? What if he cheats? What if he develops an addiction like alcoholism? What if he badly abuses me? And most importantly, where would I go if it all fails? I do not want to be locked into financial dependence on a man when so many things can go wrong. Women of the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:58 AM
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What do you think would happen to make women depend on men again? Because we just keep moving further from that point as women enter the workforce and earn their own fortunes. Also, I’ll point out that women are frustrated too. Both genders are frustrated with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:32 AM
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There’s not really a formula I can lay out for you. Its all situational and nuanced. It’s just that if I vibe well with a dude and find him funny, fun, and charming, then I’ll sleep with him. Of course there has to be a base level of attraction (I think everyone can agree with that) but it’s so much more than that. Do I feel safe with you? Do I like your personality? Do I think you’re interesting/intelligent? Can I have fun and let loose with you? Are you a genuine and considerate human? Are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:50 PM
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Thank you for your comment. I understand your position and I empathize with you. I really do. Part of the issue (I think) is a societal problem. I think little boys are not taught how to handle failure/rejection very well. They are just taught “men don’t fail, ever” so any failure feels like a personal, moral failure leading to shame and anger. It sets boys up for disappointment and it’s not fair. I also think society teaches little boys that to get a girl is the ultimate prize, but it doesn’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:41 PM
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I think you need to spend less time on YouTube/Reddit and more time volunteering or touching grass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:02 PM
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I’m sorry you refuse to see nuance and are so bitter. I can’t continue speaking to such a small mind. Have a day.✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:00 PM
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ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO CHANGE!!!! They get mad when you point out their flaws. There must be some psychological explanation for some men’s tendency to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:13 AM
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I’ve rejected plenty of attractive, tall, wealthy, creepy men. What do you have to say about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:10 AM
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Who’s demonizing them? I’m pointing out that they’re bitter and flawed in ways that make them unlikeable by women. They can work on it if they want to but they don’t. They don’t like accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:37 PM
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& I know lots of bitter men who don’t get any because they are bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:36 PM
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HAHAHAHA. So basically high value = high income but lackluster personal qualities. That’s fine have fun in Thailand🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:33 PM
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Yeah yeah women are the root of all evil. I’m tired of these dumb arguments and lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:28 PM
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Good for you, so what’s the issue? I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:28 PM
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Yeah sometimes they slip through the cracks and find someone else who is emotionally damaged. But why hold yourself to such a low standard? Why not resolve your emotional issues and bitterness to give yourself the best chance possible? It sounds like you’re arguing to stay bitter and that women should just love you anyway. It doesn’t work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:17 PM
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You are a product because women have free will to choose you or not. If you’re putting yourself out there for women, but they are rejecting you, then your product is defect. Men absolutely are sought after, some more than others. I’m trying to explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:11 PM
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No, I don’t think “most” women or “most” men are anything. I think you lose credibility when you say things like that and can’t see nuance. I think everyone who has emotional problems needs to go solve them. There’s no double standard except the one you’ve just created in your mind. No, bitter and jaded is not healthy. It’s toxic and will decrease your quality of life if you don’t resolve it. Are you a happy person? You don’t seem like it. That’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:10 PM
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You have to understand that there are healthy and unhealthy ways of dealing with emotion and rejection. Men can be human and show emotions in unhealthy ways if they want, but women are not obligated to be attracted to that. We perceive bitter jaded men as weak and mentally/emotionally unstable. Why would I want to chase a man who has those issues when there are plenty who don’t? Sorry if you think that’s unfair but that’s life. Be a better product if you want women to invest in you. And same goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:47 PM
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Everyone is both a product and a consumer in the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:42 PM
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Yes I agree with everything you said. The problem I keep going back to is the delusion, though. He doesn’t want to admit he has a problem. I think a lot of guys who can’t score don’t want to admit that they are actually the problem. Like OP said, there are tons of “high value” dudes who can’t get women and don’t know why. I’m saying they aren’t actually as high value as they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:39 PM
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You can call it what you want but a woman will never go for a bitter man who is perceived as emotionally weak. It doesn’t matter if you see yourself as weak or not. If a woman senses weakness, you won’t score. You have to think of dating as a marketplace and YOU are the product. If people aren’t buying your product, it’s because the product is defect in some way. Doesn’t matter how great the merchant thinks their own product is if the customers don’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 06:35 PM
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There’s different degrees of dad bod. Adam Sandler is your traditional “let myself go” type of dad bod. We don’t want that typically. Then there’s the buff dad bod. He’s strong from years of physical labor and exercise. His mid section is a little doughy and his abs no longer visible, but that’s okay because his chest, arms, and back are strong like a fucking gorilla. Think of a daddy lumberjack or construction worker. Been putting on muscle for decades, something a little 20 year old man could …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:55 PM
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Some do, no doubt. But he’s had lots of women clearly, obviously interested in him and he acts like a dick and repels them. It’s a cycle on repeat that I’ve witnessed many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:24 PM
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Yeah I get the jadedness and I feel for my jaded friend (actually my brother, whom I love very much). It’s a vicious cycle though. A guy can be jaded because of a few rejections, but his jaded and bitter nature is only going to secure him further rejection. A jaded bitter guy is going to have an impossible time attracting women because we look for signs of weakness in a man, and that’s surely one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:18 PM
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It’s the personality flaws I’m talking about that are their biggest Achilles heel. And you missed the biggest point I was making. Every guy (well, most guys) think they are “high value men” and I’m pointing out that it’s often delusional. So they think “I’m doing everything right! Why is it not working!” While ignoring their critical flaws. I’m other words, they aren’t really high value men because of what’s still wrong with them despite their best efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:14 PM
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I’m not answering all those details but just suffice to say that most of my guy friends can get laid pretty regularly whereas I have three examples of guy friends who cannot. The ones who get laid just have that swagger about them I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:11 PM
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I mean he’s kind of a dick to women at bars and such. He’ll preemptively rule himself out as a candidate and start to be curt, or troll them, or insult them in such a way that is repelling. No girl wants to be around a negative Nancy. And I agree it’s a confidence issue with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:08 PM
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IMO only one of them is ugly. The problem is that the one who is ugly doesn’t know it, and the other two have personality issues. The ugly one also has personality issues. All of them delusional though thinking they are such high value men when they’re not. That’s the point of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:05 PM
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So the unwanted touching, the provocative snaps, the pressing women who aren’t interested…you just skipped over those parts and read what you wanted to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:03 PM
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Yeah that, or they tell stories, or I have friends/acquaintances who fuck them and they tell me, or word just gets around that they hooked up with so and so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:24 AM
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Is that seriously all you got from my comment? Like actually?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:21 AM
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Most of my guy friends can get girls no problem. Of the ones who can’t, there is something wrong with them. They think they are high value men on paper, and as we know, perception is reality. But for one reason or another, the women don’t seem to think so. I suspect more men fall into this category than they realize. One of my guy friends has a great job, is super fit/buff, is decently attractive and fun to be around, but he’s a creep and it’s obvious (unwanted touching, weird snaps, etc.). I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:49 AM
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Yeah absolutely. A lot of men come off as thirsty to me, like they are sex-starved and always down to go fuck in a utility closet at any time. Women do not have anywhere close to that same sex drive. We do like sex and pursue it, but I think women prefer quality over quantity (quality of the sex and quality of the man). I’m good with one quality man, whereas a lot of men want to have as many sexual partners as possible and don’t care as much about the quality of the sex or the woman. I know for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:58 PM
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It’s not possible for me to answer with certainty because this is a total hypothetical. I have absolutely no idea what I would be like as a man and I have no idea what the male experience is like. The closest thing I can compare myself to is my brother. He doesn’t necessarily struggle to get women but they are not falling all over him either. He could not go on tinder and get a girl over to his apartment within an hour like I could with a guy. That’s the best I can do to answer your question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:42 PM
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I 100% agree. I think men need more hobbies and feelings of personal fulfillment in their lives. If a lovely lady comes around, then great. If not, you’ve got a great life to lean back on. + I think men should stop watching so much porn because it makes them touch starved lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:42 PM
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Ohh I see. Yeah I suppose. I mean men literally throw themselves at me constantly and I find it annoying. Of the hundreds of men who message and approach me, I find maybe 5% attractive and 1% dateable. The supply is much higher than the demand from my perspective. I’d rather be on my own than settle for a dude I don’t really want to be around just because he’s there. But if the timing and the vibe is right with a 1% kind of guy, then I’ll go out with him (that’s how it was with me and my current…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:37 PM
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Wym by that? Like how does that connect to mutual desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:31 PM
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So if I can’t speak for all women then you can’t either. Case closed, bring in the dancing lobsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:28 PM
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(Sorry for the long comment) but TBF, I think there is some truth to what you said, but not on a massive scale as you suggest. I’d be willing to bet that I have more female friends than you and have spent more time around women being that I am one, so my evidence is observational. Say I’ve made 100 female friends in my time. I’d guess that maybe five of them get a kick out of rejecting a guy. They are usually the plastic surgery gold digger types who are deeply insecure. If a person gets joy fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:12 PM
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In general I think your statement is wrong or at least misguided
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:44 PM
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We do a lot of the time. But if we happen to meet a sweet, charming, handsome man, then of course we will date him. Dating isn’t really a necessity, it’s just something nice to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:42 PM
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I’m not alone here. Snoop around Reddit for a bit and you’ll see loads of other women who don’t like being approached and are fine being single until they meet the right gem for them. If it happens, cool, if not, also cool. I don’t know many women who feel empowered when rejecting a guy…maybe some do but a lot of us either feel awkward or bad to have to reject someone. Like we’d rather not have the interaction at all because it doesn’t feel good. Women aren’t a monolith and we aren’t all on some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:31 PM
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That’s not at all the case. For me I simply have very little desire to talk to the men around me at a bar or whatever; THEY want to talk to ME. The desire is not mutual. I’d rather just have a fun time with whoever I came with. Has nothing to do with power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:13 PM
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I’ve noticed that men want me wayyy more than I want them. I don’t have a desire to be with them or to talk to them and am perfectly content being on my own. I won’t settle for mediocrity and will only date a guy if I truly feel he’s special and worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:53 PM
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I think that’s so mean and wrong. I’ve only freaked out on one guy but it’s because he grabbed me by the arm and started pulling me to his table.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:48 PM
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Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:44 AM
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Well I’m 5’0 so I can’t imagine the male version of me would fare that well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:43 AM
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Lmaoo tasers are illegal in my state😭 I do carry pepper spray though. Thankfully I’ve never had to use it but you never know …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:53 AM
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What’s your advice if I say “sorry I’m not interested” but he keeps trying? Like where do I go from there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:19 AM
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Sorry I’ll ask something edgy and offensive next time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:15 AM
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That’s risky with society’s fucked up porn appetite nowadays lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:46 PM
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Good point. I am an awkward person and a nervous laugher lol so maybe I am guilty of this. What sort of face are we talking about here to be exact?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:45 PM
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Yeah I think this is a common response that works ~most~ of the time lol. What would you say for a woman who isn’t really in a relationship and has a bad poker face?😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:05 PM
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I like a lot of what Jordan Peterson says. I don’t think there’s a person on this planet that I agree with 100%, but I appreciate his argumentation style and some of his social commentary. Go clean your bedroom!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:25 AM
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Yes I do. Maybe not drunkenly making out with another girl at a bar, but if you’ve had sex with other women then I think you’ll always be bisexual to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:55 AM
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That is not what I’m saying lmfao. I’m saying I don’t want to date a bi man. I prefer straight men. It’s not any deeper than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:52 AM
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YOU are the one making this about all men. All I’m saying is that it’s too difficult to tell which stranger men are violent and which stranger men are not. So I avoid all men in the streets because I don’t care to talk to them and find out. That’s it. It’s not a big deal. My family members are not a threat because they’ve proven themselves not to be, so I don’t treat them as a threat. My boyfriend is not a threat to me now but I treated him with skepticism when we first met because I didn’t know…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:37 PM
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Don’t care these are my opinions and lots of other women share them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:31 PM
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Nobody is placing blame on all men. You’re reading what you want to read. This is a societal issue that involves everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:31 PM
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Nobody said all men are bad. Jesus. Why don’t you get that? The problem is that men out in public are strangers to us and could harm us. Rapists don’t come with a tattoo on their face that says “rapist” on it. So we exercise caution until we know you are not a threat. My family members, boyfriend, and male friends are not a threat because they’ve proved themselves already. Some dude approaching me in a bar has proved nothing and I owe him nothing. And again, this is a thread asking women what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:26 PM
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Nobody said that. You’re deflecting and creating a straw man argument. Please don’t get so defensive for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:24 PM
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Bro this is a question posed to women about what men don’t get. And here you are, not getting it and arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:23 PM
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Believe what specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:20 PM
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Thank you for that very useful comment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:55 AM
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I hear you and I agree. This subreddit brings out the worst in me. I’ve never actually encountered such infuriating perspectives before. It’s like we are living in completely different worlds. I don’t know how to calmly respond to a person telling me that harassment/violence is no big deal and I should just get over it. To me it’s not a civil opinion and I can’t engage peacefully with people who think that way. I think I am ready to leave this sub honestly because it’s producing nothing in my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:22 AM
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That’s fine and I encourage people to explore themselves sexually. I just personally would not date this man but we could remain friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:50 AM
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I’m literally being screamed at right now by crazed men in another thread for expressing this exact thing. They don’t want to hear about us being abused in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:43 AM
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I believe that any man who has willingly had anal or oral sex with another man is not fully straight
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:40 AM
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1.) yes, I do not want to date a bisexual man. I am only into straight men. 2.) yes, that is something that should be mentioned at some point early on. 3.) fuck yes. That’s not some small petty secret to keep. Something about his dick in another man’s ass or another man’s dick in his ass is very yucky to me AS HIS SEXUAL PARTNER. I have tons of gay and bi male friends and don’t care at all what they do, and I even enjoy hearing their hoe stories sometimes. But I’m not trying to date them and fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:12 AM
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I ain’t reading all that. You have tiny pp energy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 12:02 AM
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You lose all credibility in an argument when you say things like “there is no danger.” There is always danger and there is always risk in any situation. Is the rape rate zero? Is the murder rate zero? No? Then there’s risk. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot by claiming there’s no risk because you look foolish. Now THAT is irrational. Now your first argument was that the risk is low so therefore women have nothing to worry about. You seem to forget that many/most of us have terrible experiences wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:50 PM
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Still the same result. The perception of danger keeps many women at home. Lots of men ultimately suffer sexless and alone because of it. Rather than address the danger that exists, they want to yell at us for fearing creepy violent men. It’s beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:18 PM
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I’m not watching that shit. This is a thread asking women what they think makes a good man. If you don’t want to be a good man or if you’re not capable of protecting others then don’t. There’s plenty more weaklings just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:16 PM
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Please go read my other responses I am tired of saying the same thing over and over to you guys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:13 PM
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Bro are you really arguing that protecting others is bad???. I’m simply stating that you should do no harm and intervene if you see a weaker person being harmed or about to be harmed. I don’t know why that’s controversial. Men throughout history have had to protect their tribes or face extinction. If you don’t want to help others then I don’t consider you a good man. I consider you weak and spineless. And if you happen to struggle to find good women in your life, then I suspect it’s because of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:51 PM
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In my experience I’ve never met a dude who thinks me watching porn is a bad thing. They all think it’s hot or funny lol. My current bf doesn’t even watch porn, whereas I watch it at least once a week. I only think it’s a problem when one person in the relationship is obsessed with porn and is cranking their hog multiple times a day or is avoiding sex with their partner in lieu of masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:08 PM
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I agree with you. We need good, non-violent men in this world or else we are all fucked. The issue is that we never know who we are dealing with. I’m always going to be skeptical of any guy that approaches me anywhere, and that’s just common sense not to trust strangers. A lot of women choose to avoid spaces like bars/clubs because incidents are more likely to happen in those settings (which is what the original post is about). It’s not that we think all men have the intention to harm us, it’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:00 PM
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I’m not changing what was said, and she did not imply that it’s “getting worse.” She just said we are learning to keep ourselves safe because we have to. All I said was that the men on this sub do not like to talk about male perpetrated violence because they feel attacked and implicated. In their minds there’s nothing to talk about because of “mah statistics!!” while completely ignoring our legitimate fears based on lived experiences. Just because statistics show an issue is improving doesn’t me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:43 PM
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I think what you’re saying about girls judging each other is true but only in friend groups where the girls don’t actually like each other; they just need other girls to get dressed up and go out with. With a true friend group, we don’t do that. I honestly don’t hang out with prissy bitches like that and haven’t since I was like 18 because they suck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:00 PM
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Lol!!😂😂 I can tell you it is NOT because we don’t want to “seem easy” lmao. We don’t think like that, and NONE of my friends would judge me if I met a guy and went home with him. We do it all the time. It’s simply because we went out that night to hang with our girls and we had no intention of meeting or talking to men at all that night. You guys have “saturdays are for the boys” where you don’t want women to infringe on your sports time. We have girls nights where we don’t want men to bother us…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:52 PM
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Of course attraction matters; that’s one reason slobby incel men don’t have women lining up for them. But attraction isn’t the whole equation, as I’m sure you’ve been rejected at least once in your life. I’ve been approached by loads of attractive dudes who might have had a chance had they approached me differently or weren’t so pushy (I.e., clearly just trying to fuck). If I’m out with my girls, if I’m clearly disinterested, if I’m just trying to do some shopping, if you start to creep me out, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:40 PM
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Attractiveness is part of context, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:30 PM
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Time, place, manner. Context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:28 PM
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Girl just ignore and report this creep. He is delusional and is accusing women of lying about their experiences & accusing them of welcoming violence because we “drink too much.” There’s no getting through to these incel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:26 PM
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People speak in generalizations all the time on here, don’t act brand new. And you are misinterpreting my comment. I still think you’re an asshat, and you’ve done nothing to change that. We clearly have very different definitions of “nice” and “understanding” because not a single comment you’ve made this entire time has been either. You’ve been hot headed and spitting. I said if YOU felt my comment in the beginning doesn’t apply to you, then great, why get offended over it? That’s not me backtra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:33 PM
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Buddy nobody is calling YOU anything and nobody knows who you are on here. If you are a good guy, then great, my comment didn’t apply to you. I know lots of men in my personal life who don’t get offended when I say “men are scary.” They agree that men can be scary, they don’t project. All you had to say was “sorry you feel that way, but lots of us out here protect women” and then kept it pushing. You don’t speak for all the dudes on this sub, and a lot of them are fucking nasty. Please don’t def…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:19 PM
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YOU DID NOT SAY THAT HAHAHAH😂 now you’re attempting to be nice and understanding but brother, that is NOT how you started this interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:12 PM
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Maybe it’s because whenever this topic gets brought up, a team of purple pill men jump at the chance to tell us we are lying and call us other lovely names. It literally happened to me a few days ago. I shared that I am afraid of random men approaching me at the bar/on the street and bunch of dudes on here attacked me for it. One said I was lying about being harassed and stalked by men. One said I should be thankful for being harassed and stalked by men because it means I’m pretty. One told me I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:07 PM
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The statistics are not on your side dude. 80% of violent crimes are committed by men. But we don’t give a shit about stats when we make the decision to go out at night. This just shows your ignorance of the female experience. We ALL have personal experiences with aggressive, creepy, violent men, and that is what drives our future behavior. If you’ve been attacked by a dog, you’ll spend your life being cautious of dogs. If women were out here committing acts of violence at the same rate as men, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:56 PM
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Not the dudes of this sub. They consistently deny it happens and mock us for being afraid. Just scroll through some of the comments. Your comment isn’t exactly a shining star my dude. Go be mad at the other weirdos in this sub, not us for calling them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:42 PM
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I was told in a different thread that I should be thankful that so many men harass me because it means I’m pretty. Seriously. The dudes here are the ones we are talking about and they are too blinded by arrogance to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:39 PM
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Because men are the biggest and strongest members of society. A bad man will use that power to harm others. A good man will use that power to protect others from harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:37 PM
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Careful, the men here hate this answer and don’t want to admit that there are dangerous men lurking in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:32 AM
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I’m not a feminist and I think men are terrifying. I get grabbed and followed when I go out. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:29 AM
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Our own personal experiences carry more weight than statistics in driving our behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:27 AM
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I’ve seen guys complain about not getting sex or a relationship. I’ve also seen women giving advice for hookups and relationships. So I don’t agree with either statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:19 AM
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I think a good man is a protector of those around him. He never takes advantage of anybody just because he’s more powerful or just because he can. He recognizes his strengths (both physical and internal) and uses them to benefit not just himself but also his family and community. A man also has to stand up for what is right, even if he makes enemies. If I raised a son I would want him to speak up for those who are weaker than him when they are wronged. He should do this without receiving any ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:09 AM
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Sorry but I agree, there is no claim being made. I don’t even understand what you mean by “answer using long-term relationships.” I think you gotta rephrase your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:45 AM
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Just get a good skincare routine or try growing a beard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:26 PM
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Are you talking about the lady who turned herself into Kobe Bryant? She’s so talented haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:25 PM
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Every day I read these posts I thank God my boyfriend isn’t one of the deluded and miserable men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:55 PM
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I wish you could see the creatures in my DMs and the audacious things they send me…yes, the delusion is real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:26 PM
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I was 24 at the time and the guy I tried to bang was 23, whereas my bff is 26 and tried to bang a 29-year-old virgin. I do not know if it changes with age since I am not in my 30s, but it’s possible (still think it has more to do with how he presents himself though)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:16 PM
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Of course some women are snooty and might judge you for this, but overall, no I disagree with you. It’s all about how you carry yourself. If you present yourself as a “lonely loser sexless virgin” (language I see often), then you’re going to be treated as such. What we don’t like is weakness and a lack of confidence in men, and we can’t stand when a guy reeks of desperation. Being a virgin cannot be your entire personality. But if you were to say “I’m a virgin because I am waiting for marriage” …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:01 PM
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Yeah & he wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:20 PM
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You shouldn’t start a political conversation by mocking their voting choices if you don’t know shit about politics. It’s a good way to embarrass yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:36 AM
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Your first issue is assuming I voted for Biden
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 07:33 AM
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Yeah I don’t agree with OP’s claim that 35 is the expiration date on men, but I do think there is an expiration date and you never really hear about it much. I always hear that women have an expiration date of 30, but never one for men. So what would you say is the age that men hit a wall? I would say like 40-45 but it depends I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:12 AM
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In general I think women are fine with an age gap (within reason). It’s not that weird for a 22 year old female to date a 35 year old man. I don’t necessarily agree with OP that 35 is the expiration date on men. But there definitely is an expiration date for most men, and it absolutely baffles me when old fat wrinkled dogs try to hit on me as if they have a snowball’s chance in hell of pulling it off. I aspire to have that level of unearned confidence lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:43 AM
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Is this not common knowledge that women like slightly older men?? I thought everyone knew that. It’s not some well kept secret. I’m a woman dating someone 11 years older than me. But we are talking about old wrinkled dogs who think they can date hot young girls. That’s a fantasy that many men will never achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:38 AM
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What lady? The OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:01 PM
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I’m fucking with u. I didn’t see anyone “freaking out” on the wall post, just discussing different perspectives. So it’s funny that you framed it as a “freak out”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:59 PM
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Excuse me but can you please stop freaking out and shouting????
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:55 PM
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Okay you’re just trolling at this point. You have no argument so you’re just deflecting. Either counter each point I’ve made and actually engage with my argument or shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:09 PM
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Yeah I feel like it’s similar to how everyone wants to be famous, but only a fraction of people make it there. So it’s not a realistic thing to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:09 PM
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Yeah but that’s a bit of a cheesy movie/porn fantasy innit?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:01 PM
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Hmm I’ve never heard that definition before. It’s always operationalized in the context I mentioned. I just checked urban dictionary and all those definitions agree as well. So I think using the term in this context confused me. To your main point though, yes, I agree most women want a man who has hobbies, a job, family/friends, etc. because it means he’s a whole person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:55 PM
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Bit sensitive eh? All I am saying is you are mis-using the term “side piece.” It has a very well-known definition (a person who is sleeping with a man/woman in a relationship and is fine with that role and keeping things secret)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:41 PM
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Tell me you don’t know what a side piece is without telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:25 PM
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This is a good point. Since I was 14 years old (and even now at 26) I had creepy older men hitting on me and I have always been repulsed by it. Why do so many men think they will score hot younger chicks as they age into oblivion? If I had to put a number on it, I would say less than 2% of men actually accomplish this. Even wealthy older men struggle sometimes because their beauty standards are too high compared to what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:06 PM
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I am so tired of lonely men in this sub blaming women for everything. Step up or step out. Your perceived inadequacy is NOT our fault or concern. Maybe women don’t want to date you because you’re whiny and your personality sucks, ever think of that? No woman wants to date a perpetual victim. If you’re struggling to get dates, YOU are the problem, not women. A lot of the women in this sub are in stable relationships, so clearly there’s lots of men getting it right. Why don’t you just lower your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:08 PM
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Probably. I was judging him the whole time lol. You shouldn’t start a political convo with someone who is very involved when you know nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:52 PM
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It will devolve into inceldom lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:48 PM
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Because he knew who I was voting for and everyone at least KNOWS who those two people are and that they’re both idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:47 PM
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Which part of the relationship is unfair to you? & considering that you’ve never been in one, how would you know what it’s like?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:27 AM
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Okay so then what’s the problem??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:56 AM
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Look dude if you don’t want the loving touch of a woman then you’re welcome to die alone or date your homies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:54 AM
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Men and women have never been equal?? They are inherently different in many ways, which is nature’s design. Both men and women benefit in a healthy relationship and complement each other. I don’t want to sound mean but it honestly seems to me like you’ve never been in a successful relationship so you have zero frame of reference for what it’s actually like. You’re really missing out, bud. I don’t think your ideas are based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:41 AM
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I don’t understand your argument at all. Unless I’m missing something? How is a loving, mutually beneficial relationship unfair to a man? It seems like you have just never experienced that so you think it doesn’t exist. I know lots of men who are happy and satisfied in their relationships including my bf, my best friend’s bf, my best guy friend and his gf….they’re all doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:05 AM
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I feel like you should say “you can’t expect ME to want a relationship” because you definitely do not represent all men lmao. Lots of men get loving stable relationships and are satisfied both sexually and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:52 AM
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Well when I said he initiated a political conversation, I mean he started making fun of who I was voting for. Alrighty then buddy…what’s your stance? And he had NO answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:39 PM
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I kinda feel bad because he was nice but I needed to do what was best for me😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:24 PM
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I’m sorry this is fucking hilarious😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:09 PM
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I left a dude I had been dating for 3 months because he didn’t know who he was voting for in the 2020 election and was completely clueless about…well, everything. TO BE CLEAR: He initiated a conversation about politics. I told him I didn’t care if he voted red, blue, independent, if he wasn’t voting as a form of protest, or if he wasn’t voting because he was uninformed. All are valid choices. The problem was that he had no clue what was going on and could not justify any of his choices or though…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:03 PM
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Ehhh I disagree. But first let me agree with part of it. Yes, it is entirely possible to waste time on a woman who doesn’t care about you. A lot of “friendzoned” men do this and don’t know when to pack it up and move on. However, it’s very possible to win someone over because timing is everything. The constraints of the situation can change at any time and open new doors for a man. Maybe at first the woman was unsure about you, or recovering from a breakup, and she just wasn’t ready to take you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:31 PM
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I find a lot of the men in this sub to be shockingly arrogant and frankly depressing. It really brings me down to see that so many men hate women and don’t even realize it. Some of them are so dense it’s infuriating. Do you know of a similar sub where the men are less incel-ish and hateful? I’d love to join.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:14 PM
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Let me ask you this. If you have a daughter, would you teach her to not talk to strangers? Would you teach her to never go out alone at night? Would you teach her to never leave her drink unattended at a bar? OR, would you tell her to never worry about these things because society is safe and nobody will ever harm her? If you reject the latter, then congratulations! You agree with me. Deep down, you know certain men pose a huge threat to women and girls. You know I’m not being a bigot by pointin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:52 PM
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You’re so welcome!! Thanks for being an awesome human and good luck out there :) (Side note: be sure to see my edit on spacial awareness)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:04 PM
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS RESPONSE!!!! I’ve been battling so many clueless men in this thread who think I’m attacking men, so I appreciate your level-headed response immensely. There’s lots of ways to approach a woman out in public that don’t make the hairs stand up on my neck. I think your approach of striking up a conversation is the most reasonable and effective. I’m iffy about commenting on appearance; some women like it, some don’t. It’s kind of implied that by even approaching me to talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:48 PM
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Oh shut up with your silly buzzwords. You’re not even applying the term correctly. I don’t read any feminist literature AT ALL. I rejected feminism my whole life coming from a conservative upbringing. Everything I said is based on personal experience (being harassed, stalked, raped, grabbed, followed home, beaten up, etc etc etc). I learned from a young age who to trust and who not to trust. Just because you haven’t been abused by creepy men doesn’t mean nobody has. I urge you to do some perspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:23 PM
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I feel awful for your wife. I hope she has a good divorce lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:09 PM
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That’s fine. If you don’t want to be an adult and learn the fears of women then you’re free to die alone or date your homies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:06 PM
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To deny women’s fears is to deny reality. Every time women talk about male violence against us, men get super defensive and don’t want to listen. We are not blaming you as individuals; we are saying there’s a lot of terrible men out there, and I’m telling you, it’s a SERIOUS problem. Even if you didn’t create the problem, it still exists and effects you. I’m sure you’ve seen women being shy/skittish around men, did you ever stop to think why? There’s a huge power imbalance in the man-woman dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:05 PM
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Your point is so stupid it hurts to even entertain it. This isn’t a case of women oppressing a minority male group. Racists will stereotypes against MINORITY groups to further oppress them. You are not a minority group and you aren’t oppressed, so your comparison is juvenile and irrelevant. You are, however, being asked to grapple with why so many women fear men, which seems to make you uncomfortable. You seem to think I’m blaming YOU for the entirety of male violence, which is making you defens…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:51 PM
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YOU. ARE. NOT. OPPRESSED. You need to stop using this false comparison fallacy. It’s not bigotry to call out the violence of the dominant group, in this case men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:36 PM
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It’s not bigotry you fucking clown. Is it bigotry against bears to say “I’m going to avoid bears in nature because it’s likely they will attack.” Not ALL bears will attack you. Some will just sniff around and then walk past you. But why take the risk? If you know what bears are capable of, why put yourself in a position to be attacked by one? Violent men created a reality where women have to be on high alert. I’m not going to stop and interview each man I see to determine his potential threat le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:34 PM
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Not wild, not bigoted. Generalizations, yes. It’s a self-defense mechanism to be skeptical of all men. I’ve dated lots of lovely men. My father is protective and trustworthy. My brother is a great person. I know not ALL men are violent pieces of shit, but so many of them have acted that way towards me and my friends that I have no choice but to exercise caution around them. As long as the violence continues, I’ll always feel this way. You don’t have to like it but that’s the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:30 PM
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Ever heard of schemas in psychology? Its something we all do automatically. “A schema is a mental concept that informs a person about what to expect from a variety of experiences and situations. Schemas are developed based on information provided by life experiences and are then stored in memory. Our brains create and use schemas as a short cut to make future encounters with similar situations easier to navigate.” We categorize people, places, things, etc. into “folders” so it’s easier to proces…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:26 PM
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Lmfao now you’re just bringing up random shit. I’m not hosting a gender war here to discuss which gender fucks over the other one more frequently. I’m providing a female perspective as to why I don’t like when men approach me out in public. I’m afraid of you guys. OP wanted to know why it’s so hard to approach women nowadays, I try to explain, and you all go “no..no that couldn’t possibly be the explanation.” Like idk what to tell you…you’re going to keep having problems approaching women as lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:13 PM
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False equivalency and another way to deny that lots of men are violent. I’m not saying YOU as an individual are violent. But as a class, yes, men are the primary purveyors violence in society and I will continue to exercise caution around them because of that. Y’all love statistics so much…go look up who commits the overwhelming majority of violent crimes around the globe. If you belong to a class of people like that, of course I’m going to tense up when you approach me at a bar. Women can’t wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:08 PM
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You are so dense. I am telling you that men can be threatening and scary and your response is to scream NO THEYRE NOT!!!!!! This is a huge barrier to women wanting to engage with men. You can deny this reality all you want, but it’s not going to change it. I’m offering you an explanation as to why women don’t want to be approached by random men. You need to just accept this is one reason and move on with it. Do something with this info rather than deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:59 PM
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This is what I find wild. You are lamenting the fact that it’s so hard to approach women. I, a woman, am offering a credible and common explanation as to why this is. Your response isn’t “oh wow, I didn’t know a lot of women felt that way.” Your response is to double down and contest my experiences and observations to defend shitty, scary males. You would rather excuse the worst of your kind than to hear a valid female perspective. & therein lies the problem. Too many men fail to recognize their…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:55 PM
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Because you aren’t being abused. You’re not being stalked and harassed. Women don’t even want to talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:54 PM
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I am not surprised at all that you have problems with women. You are completely out of touch with what we think and feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:53 PM
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You’re proving every single one of my points. I’ll continue to fear men as long as you act like this and deny that the abuse is constant in womens lives. Why would I care about your petty feelings when you don’t care about our abuse? YOU are vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:40 PM
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You are a really big jackass. Women pour acid on their faces in other countries to make themselves ugly to avoid male aggression and rape. This is a real thing. Too much of a “good” thing (attention) is a VERY BAD THING. I would trade some of my beauty to stop the male harassment I receive. You need to wake up buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:39 PM
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Why do men always say this? It’s like you refuse to acknowledge that other men can be vile and abusive. That’s why the problem exists, because y’all just plug your ears and refuse to listen. All of my experiences are real and I have police reports for the most serious of them. You can fuck right off buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:36 PM
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I’ve approached most of the men I’ve dated/slept with. Just because you don’t get approached by women doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:25 AM
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I didn’t say majority men. I just said men are good manipulators, and for many men, it is true. There’s enough men who do this for women to talk about the phenomenon en masse. It has happened to me and every friend I know. Ever heard of the manipulative tactics of narcissists or so-called pickup artists? Lots of men have figured out how to use a woman’s emotions and insecurities against her to get what they want. Sometimes they don’t even realize they’re doing it. That’s not really my point thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:59 AM
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I don’t know how to make you understand. It kind of terrifies me that you refuse to understand. The difference you’re not seeing is an issue of safety. Sure, women lie and manipulate all the time. But notice how none of the things you listed relate to your physical safety? Men DO NOT have to worry about being raped, assaulted, or murdered by women in the way we have to worry about it. It’s not even close. THAT is the reason I am afraid of men and treat them all as a danger until they prove other…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:33 AM
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What kind of dumb ass question is that? But no, not even slightly. I’m a fitness instructor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:58 PM
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Sure but I don’t want guys to use that perception as justification to approach women in that way. More likely than not you will be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:54 PM
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I have a loving, kind, supportive and respectful boyfriend, so no, you are dead wrong. Discretion is not something that I am lacking in. I try to be friendly in these threads….but you are a big idiot and part of the problem. I hate your comment so much and here’s why. Men are expert manipulators. No woman purposefully gets with an abusive piece of shit; men ALWAYS present themselves as a “good guy” at first. They tell you what you want to hear, flirt, charm you, and then out of nowhere they flip…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:45 PM
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I can tell you’re genuinely hurting. I can feel it through the screen just reading your comment. I’m so so sorry that you’ve felt lonely and depressed for so long. I’d like to offer some friendly advice, if I may: 1.) you need to stop calling yourself a virgin sexless depressed person. If that’s how you think of yourself, that’s all you’ll ever be. Women don’t hate virgins; I know lots of women who date and have sex with them. We don’t like when being a virgin is your whole personality. If a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:30 PM
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Lmfao I just read the title and responded sorry😂😂 umm I would say abs are overrated. I prefer a man with a built out chest/shoulders/arms and don’t care if his mid section is a lil flubby. Makes him more cuddly🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:34 PM
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Men with money/status. I do not care at allllll that you’re a millionaire, especially if being rich and economically successful is your entire personality. (But I also don’t want to date a broke lazy dude. Gotta make $40k minimum I think).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:31 PM
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I think most people enjoy casual sex sometimes. I’m just not into the constant hookup culture I guess is what I mean. When I do it I usually like to meet a guy in person though. & I’ve had casual relationships (FWB) develop from my walk-up method, but never a serious relationship (not really what I was looking for at the time lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:40 PM
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I want you to know that you are talking about an extreme minority of women who like to be approached with vulgarity and sexual violence. MINORITY. Please don’t let porn fantasies dictate how you treat women. The rest of us think you’re insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:36 PM
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Wow….OP that is a truly nasty, tone-deaf, out-of-touch comment you just made. Like another commenter said, YOU are the type of guy I do not want to meet. You think I should be thankful for all the terrifying male attention I receive because it’s better than being ugly???? You truly don’t understand. I’ve been stalked, harassed, followed home, grabbed, raped and left in a van in an alleyway…a man threw chemicals on me at a bar once burning my arm…I’ve been cussed out by plenty of men for rejectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:32 PM
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I’m only speaking for myself. And I think you missed the point a bit. You say “you shouldn’t judge all of us based on the bad behaviors of a few” … it’s NOT just “a few men here and there.” I’m talking about hundreds, possibly thousands of men over my whole lifetime who have been vulgar, violent, possessive, creepy, and disrespectful towards me. This has caused me to build up a defense mechanism against all men because it’s impossible for me to know your intentions upon initial meeting. It’s for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:20 PM
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26F. I could have an attractive guy at my apartment within an hour with just a couple swipes. At a bar (given there’s no wife/gf visible) I can walk up to almost any man I want and probably take him home. This is actually my preferred method of meeting men. I usually just walk up, smile, say “hi” and the rest is history. I’ve never struggled once in my life to get laid, and I’m not saying this is because I’m the most gorgeous girl in the world or anything like that….I just think men are super ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:44 AM
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I’d like to explain why I (woman) do not like being approached by men. Because SO MANY of you are disrespectful creeps. When I go out, men will approach me like “Damn baby!” “That ass though!” “I think we would make cute babies!” Online approaches are MUCH worse. I’ve gotten hundreds of dick pics over the past decade. Men messaging me every week for years with no response. Men messaging shit like “I want to hold you down and throat fuck you.” I have 300 unopened instagram DMs because I refuse to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:12 AM
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No, because I do not like ideological labels. If you accept a label like “feminist,” “Republican,” “Christian” etc. then it implies you have to accept all the beliefs and values under that umbrella. And I definitely do not agree with the entirety of feminist ideology. I do, of course, want gender equality. Society disadvantages both women and men in many different ways. From a feminist standpoint, I agree that a lot of men hyper-sexualize us (women). I recognize that men are far more likely to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:45 AM
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Yepp, I got good men around me + I practice my 2A rights :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:40 AM
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(I’m a woman btw) I’m truly sorry to hear about all the bullying and mistreatment you’ve endured. That’s not right and I wish you never had to experience that. I also sympathize with you about being lonely and craving a woman’s love. I don’t take that lightly and I agree it’s a basic human need. The problem with a lot of incels is that they treat it as a basic human right. I don’t think you fit that category, though. I don’t even want to call you an incel because it’s demeaning and I don’t think…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:30 AM
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I’ve provided constructive feedback to several incels and other “dorkier” guys before (but mostly online, it would be weird in person lol). Sometimes they say something like “women always reject me:(((“ and I’ll ask if they care for any advice and it goes from there. I think some of them actually found it pretty helpful. & as for rejecting a guy, I agree they all need to learn to take it on the chin and move on. I was just referring to the women who reply to incels like “eww you fucking loser, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:46 AM
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Girl I know how you feel. It’s hard not to feel that way sometimes. I have a different reason though. I’m actually kind of terrified of men. I live in a city so I experience a ton of psychos. I’ve been stalked, harassed, followed home, grabbed, domestically abused, sexually abused…a man once tried to abduct me…a man threw FUCKING CHEMICALS on me and burnt my arm at a bar…I even caught one man masturbating while looking into my windows not once, but twice!! Not to mention all the unsolicited dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:10 AM
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Well sure that’s an issue sometimes but I do not think that’s what Neptune jr’s comment is talking about. I think he just meant that men & women in general should drop superficial standards, and I’m just point out that “superficial” is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:19 AM
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Yes I agree I agree some women have unnecessarily high standards (like income being over 6 figures, height being 6’5+). Tbh who wants to date them anyway? But “superficial standards” is also subjective. For example, I am a fit girl and will only date a man with some muscle on him (nothing crazy but I like masculine-looking men). Some dudes would probably call that superficial, I just call it a preference. I guess I can only speak for me and my friends, then. If we see a dude we like then we go f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:08 AM
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I truly don’t know why the text is so big lol I’m new to Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:45 AM
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Just my thoughts: 1 - not really sure what you mean 2 - I cannot and will not fuck or date someone I am repulsed by, and sorry, but a lot of guys kinda repulse me (sometimes physically, sometimes it’s their demeanor, sometimes they smell like beef and onions, the list goes on) 3 - I totally agree 4 - men typically have higher sex drives which is why they initiate contact more than women. Sometimes it feels like men are constantly on the hunt and we are the prey. Plus a lot of women DO initiate s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:06 AM
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I just checked my Bumble beeline. I currently have 41,350+ likes on that app. You want me to respond to all of them? It’s not practical or even desirable. If I responded to every guy who messaged me, I would have zero life because that would take up every second of my day. Sorry, but I aspire to do more in life than have shallow conversations with a bunch of horny strangers all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:53 AM
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I do feel bad for incels and think many of them have probably been mistreated in life, which is unfortunate. I think there are things we could all do to alleviate the situation. For women: we should not insult or shame these guys if they try talking to us. Just a simple “no thank you!” will do. If they become belligerent then block them. If you’re in person, deescalate. If they are willing to listen and learn, then provide constructive feedback for what they need to improve. One friendly encount…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:43 AM
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I think we agree that it is problematic to end a dating relationship in an unsatisfying way that leaves one person feeling misled. However, you’re making a straw man argument “wOmEn Do It ToO” because nobody here is denying that women also can be disingenuous. This is not a debate about which gender is more deceptive in relationships, which is what you’re trying to make it. Seems like OP is seeking perspectives on whether it’s wrong for men to avoid disclosures of intent in early stages of relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:55 AM
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This entire thread is about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:05 AM
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Irrelevant. This is a question posed to women who date men. If you want to talk about what women do in relationships then make your own thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:59 AM
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I feel like we might be talking about different scenarios. I was talking about men who intentionally manipulate and emotionally string us along to get sex. Every single female friend of mine (and myself) all have stories like this of men who lied just to get in our pants. It’s way more common than you think. It can make us guarded and skeptical moving forward, which is why communication of intentions is so important to some women. We are trying to determine whether you’re a piece of shit just tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:43 AM
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Well the problem that many women encounter is that a lot of men tend to weaponize their niceness to get what they want from us. Some of them pretend like they want to date us, lead us on, make us feel special and protected, only to leave once they’ve gotten enough sex or they find someone they like better. It can feel very manipulative and shady. So, a lot of women prefer a man to just be upfront that all he wants is sex rather than stringing us along emotionally. And this does not apply to men …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:34 AM
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