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Snitched on myself how? Yeah, I'm a virgin. I don't deny it and never have. I'm going off of what men who have had sex say and they say that vaginas are gross.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 02:21 AM
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Women are literally raped and forced to start their sex lives from childhood, by force, generating countless traumas, You act like this is all women. It isn't. It's a minority. Honestly, I doubt many of you actually want to go down on a woman. Well, most men say that vaginas smell and taste horrible. Like rotten fish. That doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 01:48 AM
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many men don't know how to have sex Because most men don't have sex often enough to get good at it and women hate having to "teach" men (that's an excuse often given as to why women don't want to be with virgin men.)
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 01:39 AM
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Aren't what? I have no idea what you're saying.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 09:39 PM
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Okay. You weren't the one I replied to. You're probably having the best sex of your life whenever you want, right?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 09:38 PM
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Of course you call it a "mantrum" because you don't agree with it. lol And your point is?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:50 PM
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Wouldn't want to be friends with you in real life (or anyone, for that matter) with this creed lurking underneath your subconscious and coloring your very ability to go outside. Okay. I probably wouldn't want to be friends with you either. (which everyone around you can pick up on). Jesus Christ, no they can't. People can't read minds. You very obviously desperately like them and want them to like you. I like (some of) their bodies. That's it. I want to have sex with beautiful women nothing more…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:49 PM
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I don't believe that. Women have caused me nothing but suffering and pain. Why should I like them? How would it benefit me in any way?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:32 PM
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If I were a woman saying I hate men, you'd be singing my praises.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:26 PM
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Of course you resort to insults. It's not my choice to not live in the "real world". They don't want me.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:17 PM
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Congratulations. Some of us don't have that option.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:55 PM
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Of course you don't bother to refute what I said because you know I'm right. Whatever floats your boat then.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:52 PM
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Especially after my libido (testosterone) fell off a cliff in my fifties, I find it easier to talk to younger women coworkers without awkwardness. I wish I was at that point. Even though my testosterone is so low I'm basically a woman, I still resent having to interact with them, especially young attractive women because they're still just a cruel reminder of what I'll never have and how I'll always be viewed as a lesser person for never having experienced sex. I just try to avoid talking to the…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:05 PM
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We just got done talking about why fat people aren't used in marketing, dude. The beauty standards are already set and are profitable to big companies as is. Why would anyone change them? My God, you're actually thick enough to believe that if companies all of a sudden started marketing obese women as the epitome of beauty, men would somehow become attracted to that? No matter how much the fat acceptance crowd tries to push this narrative, men's preferences aren't going to change. Maybe they wil…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:00 PM
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Women's preferred BMI in men is 24-26 with ~15% body fat Still doesn't bode well for me.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 06:47 PM
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Okay. If I were a woman saying this about men, you'd be singing my praises.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 06:10 PM
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Kitten, look at yourself. There's a lot going on inside you. Okay. What's this supposed to mean? You're reducing people’s experiences through your own lens, especially since beauty is subjective. If beauty is subjective, then why do all models and actors, who make millions of dollars based on their appearance, look the same? Society imposes unrealistic and unattainable standards. If people didn't naturally find this attractive, they wouldn't pay money to see them.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:59 PM
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There are a lot of unattractive people dating, so I think this theory is flawed; look at your standards too. They're dating because no one else wants them and they have to take whatever they can get. I'm not interested in dating. I just want sex. And yeah, I'm not attracted to women in my league. I'm trying to force myself to, but it isn't working.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:53 PM
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No. I'd like to live in a world where I were asexual and didn't have to see or interact with women at all. I'm pretty close to the asexual part since I no longer get aroused by porn. I honestly think men and women would both be happier living in a gender segregated society where babies are only born via artificial insemination.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:31 PM
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Exactly. The solution to the male loneliness problem isn't relationships with women, it's relationships with other men (not sexual or romantic). It took me a while to figure this out, but there is absolutely nothing other than sex that a relationship with a woman could provide me with that I can't get from a guy friend. Men are friendlier to me than women. Men are more likely to say hello to me than women (and the women who do are usually older and/or physically unattractive). Men are more likel…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 04:52 PM
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Or maybe no one wants to hook up with you because you're boring Girls liked me in school, but only as a friend. They wouldn't date or have sex with me because of my looks. And this isn't me guessing, they outright said so. Hooking up is all about looks.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 01:15 PM
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I was referring to heterosexual women in particular. It makes sense why you can't have sex with who you want because you're attracted to women and women have higher standards than men.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 12:18 PM
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This article is from 2009. Women's standards have gotten significantly higher since then. It also says that women still preferred thin, muscular men over all others.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 12:16 PM
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The only thing I'm jealous of women for is their ability to have sex with anyone they want.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 11:09 PM
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Prove it. Fat people aren't making hundreds of millions of dollars off of their bodies. No one wants to see movies about fat people. No one wants to see fat people walking down runways. People all the time talk about how unattractive and gross fat people are. Go on any reddit post along the lines of "Do you find fat women/men attractive?". I have. The majority of commenters say no and/or fat shame like crazy. As for proving that fat people are being settled for in relationships, that's not somet…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 10:47 PM
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Again, I repeat, fat people were already considered attractive in pre-modern times. 300 pound people were never attractive. They didn't even exist back then because it was pretty much impossible to eat enough food to get that fat before processed food became prevalent. Do you think there were 300 pound cavemen? No. Sure, some of the affluent were a little chubby because they could afford more food, but they would be considered normal today. Back then, somebody who was twenty pounds overweight wo…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 10:30 PM
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Yeah? That is exactly what I said? Any problems? Yeah there are problems. No matter how much you try to convince men that obesity is attractive, it's not going to work. You can't force people to be attracted to something. I've tried going on r/BBW and looking at obese women's bodies trying to force myself to be attracted to them (since I'm obese myself, probably won't ever lose a significant amount of weight and will still have an ugly body if I do due to loose skin and stretch marks) and with a…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 10:10 PM
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Advertising is good at making you think you want something and pretending that everyone should. That is literally it's purpose. God, not another one of those people. "Men are only attracted to beautiful women because of media. We need to start putting elderly, obese women all over the media so men will be attracted to them instead." The stereotypical hot, muscly male bod is a male beauty standard, not something anyone asked a woman about. Then why is it that media made by women and aimed at fema…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 09:49 PM
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Yes. People wouldn't pay money to see that if they weren't genuinely attracted to that. Why are there almost no ugly or even average looking people in modelling and acting? Because nobody wants to see it.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:31 PM
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Look at Hollywood and modelling. The people who are paid millions of dollars based on their appearance.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:27 PM
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Not the exact same, but there is a large degree of overlap.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:24 PM
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Women find 80% of men unattractive. Women themselves even agree with this sentiment.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:20 PM
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A lot of women do it somehow, or else most men would be virgins. And I do think that things will get to that point sooner or later.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:12 PM
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So strange, how those guys assume sex is like some mind numbing corporate job or factory work for us. It is when the man isn't attractive enough.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 07:05 PM
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How so?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/26 09:36 PM
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I'm the one pointing out lies.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/26 01:07 PM
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Y'all are so desperate to keep this place an echo chamber.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/26 12:45 PM
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How many women are married to 666? They likely settled for mediocre men because they couldn't get the man they wanted. Or the guy was more attractive when the relationship began and he let himself go over time.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/26 11:09 PM
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So you're saying I can't meet anyone in person and have to just stick to text on a screen? Based on what I experience on this platform, that's no good.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/26 11:07 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, do you live in a small town? Yes I do. There are no big cities near me (there's a relatively small city, but I don't consider it a true city.) and moving isn't an option right now and won't be for years at least.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/26 05:30 PM
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You're right that relating to NTs is always gonna be hard. But don't you think you'd be able to relate to other Autistic people? There are problems with this: Autistic people are a very small minority. There are about four times as many autistic men as there are autistic women. Autistic women can still date NT men because men don't care as much about that. Just because someone else is also autistic doesn't mean I'll have any common interests or whatever with them. That's like telling a diabetic …
/r/ExRedPill24/03/26 04:34 PM
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This is such bullshit. Women don’t require any of that. If that were true, no one would ever date. Most people settle.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 10:56 PM
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Another tired old "The only reason men find beautiful women attractive is because the media told us so. If they started putting elderly 500 pound women in movies, TV, ads and social media, men would be attracted to that." People wouldn't spend millions of dollars to look attractive people if they didn't find them attractive. No matter how many times Hollywood tries to convince me that Scarlett Johansson, Emma Watson and Christina Hendricks are attractive, my dick will never get hard for them. Bu…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 09:57 PM
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We can't control what we're attracted to.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 09:12 PM
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Or you get over yourself learn to manage and adapt. I like the way I am. Which generally will overall benefit you than being miserable about your situation. It didn't when I was a child.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 08:33 PM
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I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not. It makes me extremely miserable and I get no benefits from doing so. Casual sex is all about looks. I'll never be good looking enough for casual sex.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 08:24 PM
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And God forbid you care about another human being which is kind of important for romance which is what makes someone attractive. I don't want romance. I want sex. Plenty of men who don't care about others get laid. No one cares about me, why should I care about others? I have autism. I cannot and never will be able to relate to other humans. Autism can't be cured. At best I can learn to imitate NTs but it will never be genuine.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 08:06 PM
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Sure. But usually men who are no woman's type have some improvement to do. And it always goes back to me I having to spend ten years doing things I don't want to do, giving up all the food I love, trying to pretend to care about others and laugh at their boring unfunny jokes, and be something I'm not.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:49 PM
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I personally do not care if I reproduce or not. I know I'd be a terrible parent and I wouldn't even consider having kids unless I become rich since I don't want to continue the generational poverty I was unfairly brought into. But my lizard brain doesn't know this and keeps pressuring me to do it. And I can't turn it off. I'm near-suicidally depressed because I'll never get to know what tits and ass feels like, never hear a woman scream my name in pleasure and be viewed as an equal by other men …
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:48 PM
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Get mental help and realize that there’s more to life than just being physically attractive to the opposite gender. That would be a nice start. The entire purpose of human life is to pass on our genes. Everything else is cope. Ignoring reality isn't going to make me any happier.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:23 PM
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What's the other alternative then? Stay quiet like a good little boy?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:19 PM
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See where I am going with this? Yes, but you can't deny that some men are no woman's type and some men are almost every woman's type.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:14 PM
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All over Reddit. Any woman centric sub is littered with these comments. Tons of posts of women admitting that most men are not physically attractive to them. But I'm sure you'll pull the old "Reddit is not real life" bullshit because you don't agree.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:47 PM
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What are you talking about? I said that ugly people being in relationships doesn't prove that their partners find them attractive. People settle for a number of reasons. Loneliness, social pressure to be in a relationship, financial reasons, etc.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:39 PM
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Maybe. Maybe not. They're definitely having a larger number of sex partners, better looking women and the sex is probably way more enjoyable. Most importantly, they're having sex with the girls I want. Which means they're what the women I am attracted to are attracted to in men.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:36 PM
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Because these types of men are who the women I'm attracted to have sex with. And isn't it common sense that these men get more pussy than other men?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:26 PM
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Then why do those men get more sex from more attractive women than men who are not these things?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:22 PM
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The vast majority of women are attracted to physically fit men with muscles, low body fat and abs.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:19 PM
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Yeah, they often are. Not always, but often.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:17 PM
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That doesn't work. Just because ugly people are in relationships doesn't mean their partners are attracted to them. Many people settle. Maybe they were more attractive when they first met their partners and let themselves go over the years. Many people stay in bad relationships even though they're unhappy.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:16 PM
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Most people aren't attractive (the majority of men and women look gross IMO) and still get partners. How they can stand to kiss, touch or see their partners naked bodies is beyond me.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:13 PM
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Women say all the time that most men are physically unattractive to them.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:11 PM
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When you see women in relationships with men that don't meet those standards, does that change your perception of this 666 rule? Or do you believe that said women are settling for a lesser man? I definitely do. Especially if the woman isn't attractive herself. Or the dude is either rich or was better looking at the beginning of the relationship and let himself go.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:11 PM
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Doesn't mean their partner is attracted to them. Women often compromise on looks due to other traits (usually money, but also good personality and such), especially if the woman isn't attractive herself. And people wonder why there are so many dead bedrooms.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 01:52 PM
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Because personality without looks = friend. Girls liked my personality in school, but they wouldn't date me because of my looks. And this isn't speculation, they outright told me this. Girls made fun of my looks and called me ugly all the time. I'm sure you'll have some kind of excuse ready to dismiss my experiences though.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 10:54 AM
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What's your solution then?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:35 AM
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If these motherfuckers would go to therapy and attend a few women’s studies courses with an open mind they could work their way to a happy life. Women still wouldn't be attracted to them if they did this. They would just see them as "friends". Of course I get downvoted for speaking the truth again.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:32 AM
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Do you think we will see a rapid decline of birth because it’s going to push women into being single? I definitely do. It's already happening. It's just natural selection at play. Our modern conveniences and patriarchal rule allowed too many genetically inferior, boorish mediocre men who wouldn't have been able to reproduce in the caveman era to do so and it resulted in too many undesirable men being brought into the world. Since the structure that forced women to be with these losers is crumbli…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 03:10 PM
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I think it'll get far worse before it gets better.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 11:22 AM
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All i will say is keep going to therapy. Because you seriously need it. You carry a HIGHLY toxic and tunnel visioned viewpoint. Stop with the tired ass therapy insults. I'm not "toxic" because I don't have the same views as you. Therapy will not make me deny reality. Nor will it help me get sex.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 06:48 PM
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You want women to solve violence women have against men? Why arent the men solving that since they are in charge? Because when men fight back against women who are violent towards them, they're the bad guy and they're the ones getting arrested and all that. Women know this and some take advantage of it. They can hit men all they want and the men can't do anything about it without incriminating himself. How exactly are men supposed to stop this? Women need to stop hitting men. That's on them to d…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 06:41 PM
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Yeah. Worst generation by far. And they say my generation is so bad. Guess who raised us to be that way?
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 05:27 PM
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You cannot reasonably say that feminism is harmful, but patriarchy is not. I've never said that. Patriarchy is harmful to men and women. Feminism benefits women but harms men. Neither patriarchy nor feminism benefits men. Feminism desire equality and empathy You can say that all you want, but feminists words and actions often contradict this. They have empathy for women, but not for men. They want to be equal to men in ways that benefit them, but not men (still expecting men to pay for dates, no…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 04:50 PM
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All of that may be true in theory, but in reality, that isn't the case. Most men and women still reward men who stick to traditional "toxic" masculinity and punish men who do not. Men's mental health is getting worse, not better. Feminist women are turning against men altogether and openly say they do not care about our problems one bit.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 03:51 PM
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Feminism is for everyone and actually helps men How is feminism helping men? It seems to be doing the opposite.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 02:20 PM
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Okay.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 04:19 PM
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It doesn't matter what it is. Some people will never be valued by others. Lime the homeless for example. No amount of pretending otherwise will make people like me.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 12:13 PM
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Didn't you once say humans were no different than apes in a jungle?
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 11:08 AM
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I'm curious why you unblocked me, though. Felt the need to reply to this. Probably won't be repeating that mistake.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 11:06 PM
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Average as in normal bmi Most Americans are overweight or obese. That is the new "average". People of a healthy weight are a minority in the US. When are you going to learn that college aged women do not represent the majority of women?
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:36 PM
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I've never found men difficult to understand or relate to. I certainly don't understand or relate to women. Men are generally nicer to me than women and are far more likely to have things in common with me.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:34 PM
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Red pill forces a “hierarchy” of men in order to be relevant. It's isn't forced. Viewing people in hierarchies is literally wired into us. No one would say an unemployed trailer park dweller is worth more to society than a doctor.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:33 PM
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Exactly. Anything else is delusion.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:31 PM
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Not everyone can get the best, so they have to take whatever they can get.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 07:30 PM
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Why are you putting Sydney Sweeney in this category? Because most men (especially younger men) don't know what an "average" woman really looks like thanks to movies, TV and social media. When they hear "average" woman, they think of someone who's young, "cute" but not "hot" and is skinny but has small boobs, butt, etc. Someone like Emma Watson or Kristen Stewart ten years ago. Like in movies where the "ugly" girl is just a model with no makeup, glasses and unflattering clothes and/or hair. In re…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 08:00 PM
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None of yall ever asked actual women what they're into. Because they often lie or omit the physical traits they like because they don't want to hurt men's feelings.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 06:08 PM
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How so?
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:46 AM
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Also, you dont find almost every woman attractive. For one, you have preference for an age range, a range of body fat % and you probably like symmetry too Exactly. When men like this say "I find most women attractive", what they mean is "I find most women who are under 30, not ugly and not overweight/obese attractive." Which is probably around 20% of women at most.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:43 AM
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Exactly. I'd rather have what he has than a relationship. Dude sounds like he's humble-bragging
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:41 AM
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I appreciate the effort but I don't believe in this "everything is already in you" stuff. You're encouraging me to try and distract myself from the fact that I won't get to accomplish the sole thing evolution has programmed into me. If I could take a pill that would make me asexual, I would. But there is no such thing. People just like you have been an integral part of society for thousands of years Yeah, as cannon fodder. global capitalism eating people up. Well, Capitalism isn't going away in …
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 11:13 PM
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Maybe you should try to get a hobby and try to find a way to be proud of yourself. I'll be proud of myself when I'm finally a real man. Nothing makes me happy. Nothing.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 10:37 PM
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Also, women rate men's looks lower than men rate women's looks. Here we go again, the OK Cupid bullshit. While women rated fewer men as attractive, they were more receptive to messages from men they weren't initially attracted to if they were charming. Meanwhile, even though the men rated women's looks on a more even bell curve, the majority of the men messaged only the best looking women on the site.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 09:38 PM
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You should try to not classify your self as a "bottom 1% man" I'm fat, bald, poor, live in a trailer park with my mother and grandmother, autistic, no hobbies or interests outside of movies and TV. Pretty much no woman on the planet would ever want to date or have sex with me. For one, comparing yourself to others is never healthy It's impossible not to do. Humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. If I don't measure up to others, they won't want to be around me, hence why I have no frien…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 09:35 PM
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Well when you don't have looks at all, it doesn't matter if women care less, because they still care and won't be interested in me either way.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:32 PM
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men are more visual. Are they? Women are visual as well and it's time we stopped denying it. It just seems like women care less about looks than men because women care more about traits that aren't looks than men do and are sometimes willing to compromise on looks if the man has other qualities or if she also doesn't have looks.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:28 PM
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If you've slept with multiple women yet are not a "top 1%" man, then shouldn't that be proof enough for you? I've never had any women, but that's because I'm a bottom 1% man.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:19 PM
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How has this been made clear to you? Girls in school would make fun of my looks and anytime the idea of going out with me was suggested, the answer was some variation of "Ew!" Just because you don't meet a certain physical standard doesn't mean that there's no woman that would be interested in you Maybe not, but I don't think any woman that I would be interested in would be into me.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 03:07 PM
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I've never asked a woman out because they made it clear to me that they're not attracted to me, so why bother?
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 12:32 PM
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I wouldn't know. I've never even been on a date.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 02:51 AM
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Just because someone used to live a certain life before, it doesn't mean that they can't live different to that later in life. That doesn't really answer what I said, but okay.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 02:17 AM
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A woman could have a past and still genuinely like you How can that be the case when pretty much every man she's been with will have been better than me in some way? Better looking, richer, bigger dick, etc.?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 07:42 PM
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Why would any man want to be with a woman who doesn't desire them?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 04:54 PM
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Yeah but it's something I just have to deal with.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/26 11:33 AM
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Do you even have male friends? Apparently you missed this: except one male cousin who's the closest thing to a friend I have Other than him, no. Or do you just hate everyone who isn't you? It's more like indifference than hate, though there are a lot of people I genuinely hate. The only people I like and admire are either celebrities or fictional. And I do hate myself too.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 10:53 PM
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But blaming the entire female population for your bad luck... that's the sad part. It doesn't matter. I'll likely never meet a woman who isn't like the ones I've had to deal with and even if I do, I have absolutely no desire to live with a woman once I'm finally away from my female relatives. I want to live alone with a dog. I want everything my way with no one nagging or telling me what to do. And if I absolutely had to live with someone, I'd much rather it be a man. The only time I can envisio…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 05:53 PM
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It's not just my mother, it's all the women in my family and all the ones I knew in school.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 04:54 PM
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Do you hate your mother? Yes. Any sisters if you have them? I'm an only child.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 03:03 AM
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Never said it was valuable.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/26 01:21 PM
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They can exist all they want. But if they're not willing to have sex with me, I want nothing to do with them.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/26 02:27 AM
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I wish I knew. I hate that I'm attracted to women. I'd give anything to be gay or asexual. But I can't. Women have given me nothing but suffering and pain, and yet I'm heterosexual. It's like God (if there is one) is pulling some kind of sadistic, cruel joke.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 09:02 PM
0

And yours does?
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 04:03 PM
0

When they give me a reason to like them, I will.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 04:00 PM
0

Of course you have to resort to petty insults when you have no argument.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 03:56 PM
0

Nothing only a woman can. Plus a lot of bitching. Besides, my mother is so masculine she might as well be a man.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 02:45 PM
1

No idiot, I don't.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 02:31 PM
0

These are stupid questions, no? If you want to be pathetic, be pathetic Of course when you have no argument you have to resort to insults. I live with two women. It sucks, I hate it and it's not worth putting up with all that nagging, complaining etc. unless the woman is super attractive and has sex with me. I get along better with men than women. Men are nicer to me than women. Men are more likely to greet me when I walk by them than women (and on the rare occasions a woman does greet me, it's …
/r/ExRedPill20/02/26 12:34 AM
-2

Name me one other thing a woman can offer me that I can't get from a male friend or a dog. Sex is literally the only thing since I'm not gay or a zoophile.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/26 12:24 AM
-3

"I don't understand why men I'm better than are threatened by how much better I am than them". Sure.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 07:33 PM
-2

Better looking. That's about it.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:46 PM
-2

The only way a woman could make my life better is to have sex with me. Anything else I could get from a guy friend or a dog. I know I'm going to get downvoted for saying this but that's how it is.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:46 PM
0

This just sounds like humble bragging.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:42 PM
1

Mother and grandmother unfortunately.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 12:04 AM
1

>Maybe you've conditioned yourself to only get hard for super hot women because you've spent your life gooning to porn. You're right. Porn is the reason why men aren't attracted to old. 600 pound women with three teeth. It can't possibly be because thousands of years of evolution taught us to be attracted to young, good looking healthy women so we can have healthy children because things like old age, obesity and facial and body disfigurements often indicate poor health and/or infertility. /s >Y…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 10:39 PM
1

I already live with two of them. Why would I want to deal with that again?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 08:38 PM
1

My main problem with the "self-improvement" aspect of Red Pill is how absolute it is. Like you have to be six feet tall, you have to get buff and shredded, you have to make six figures or else you'll never attract a woman. Most men aren't six feet tall, most men don't have big muscles and six packs (and most don't have the dedication it would take to get them) and most men will never make six figures. Yet they still end up in relationships. RP also only tends to focus on improving your looks and…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 07:26 PM
1

Women aren't interested in the things I'm interested in. What am I supposed to talk to them about?
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 12:31 AM
1

None of the above.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 12:30 AM
0

Do you not talk to a lot of women? I don't see the point. They made it clear to me from a young age that they're not attracted to me and I was better looking then than I am now. Plus, women don't want men approaching them anymore and I don't want to risk getting maced, kicked in the nuts or arrested.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 12:03 AM
1

Well, there are women that a lot of people think are hot that I have no attraction to whatsoever (Scarlett Johansson, Emma Watson, Christina Hendricks for example). Just get with a girl you’re attracted to. No women I'm attracted to have ever been interested in me or paid me any attention at all unless they're required to (cashiers, coworkers, etc.) Only women I'm not attracted to give me any attention at all.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 11:46 PM
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When people see you with an attractive girlfriend especially one that is not on your level looks wise and even on your financial level, they see her not you. So you're saying I'll always be invisible then? Women have way more to offer than just looks And nothing except looks have ever made me hard for a woman. Am I supposed to end up in a sexless relationship or something? Take a bottle of Viagra and keep my eyes closed every time I have to do the deed? Maybe that's why so many men need Viagra.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 11:28 PM
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I’m not overly attached to the idea of having a super attractive wife. I do. I don’t care to get a pat on the back from other people because I have a pretty gf out of my league in the looks department. Again, I do. I don't want to be invisible to the world anymore or be made fun of for not having an attractive woman. I want to be high status.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 10:59 PM
-2

Too many men chase after model looking women Well, that's what most men find attractive and attraction cannot be controlled.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 09:56 PM
1

You are a man already I don't feel like a man. I feel like a little boy. If anyone is shitty about you being a virgin that's on them, not you. That's how the vast majority of people view virgins. Sitting down and making a plan of what you want to do in the next five years will. What I want to do will never come to fruition. I want to be a screenwriter and actor, but that's a pipedream. I'm going to have to take a job I hate that pays the bills like 90% of other people. I currently work at a hosp…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 02:14 AM
1

If you can access it, therapy or some sort of mental health support group could do wonders. I'm in therapy. It isn't helping. Nor are antidepressants. Therapy won't make people love me.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:36 AM
1

It sounds like you want me to be mean to you. No, I don't. I want the opposite, but at this point I'm throwing in the towel. I know what I need to do. But I can't take anymore.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:32 AM
1

I'm sympathic completely to your situation. You don't sound it. But I'm just telling you the solution. And it is, unfortunately, levelling up. I just can't deal with this loveless existence anymore.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:25 AM
1

So that's it? "Tough shit, loser. Level up"
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:18 AM
1

But if I were you I'd put any thought of dating on the backburner and fix your living situation somehow. It'll take years. I don't want to wait years until I'm finally deemed "good enough". Even if I could afford my own place, I'll probably have to wait for my mother and grandmother to both die since they can't get by without me. And even though my grandmother is 88 soon-to-be 89 and my mother is 70, the women in my family tend to live very long. I could be in my 40s or 50s before they finally k…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:08 AM
1

So you're saying I have no chance and should give up right?
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 12:02 AM
1

What do you want me to say exactly? I met my husband in my early 20's like pretty much every other human on the planet. Exactly. Early 20s. No one cares that you don't have your finances in order by then because almost no one does at that age. By the time you turn 30, you're expected to be making a living wage and have your own place if you're single. If you're not, no woman will be interested in you. But you're about to tell me I'm lying because you have 'proof' that women only want rich men I …
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:54 PM
1

No. You won't answer me, so why should I do it to you?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:38 PM
1

No. Because you know I'm right and just don't want to admit it. you have to admit to me that it's equally fair for me to make giant assumptions about men. If I do, will you answer my question?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:27 PM
1

Answer the goddamn question.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:16 PM
1

You made an assumption about what women want It's not an assumption. Women say this themselves. My husband is proof of it. He didn't have a job when I met him. Let me guess, he was in his teens or twenties when you met him. At that age, it's excusable to not have your life together. If he was 30+ and didn't have a job or worked at like McDonald's or something, would you still have been interested in him?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:13 PM
1

Funny how you refuse to acknowledge what I say and just write stupid shit about frilly things and baking pies. If you're so convinced that I'm wrong, prove it.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:06 PM
1

It's not an assumption. I am living proof of it.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:03 PM
1

Because no woman wants a poor man.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 11:02 PM
1

You assumed I'd be happier with someone richer. Why wouldn't you be? I'd be happier with a good looking woman than an ugly one. No woman wants a poor man. Hence my current situation.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:55 PM
1

I can't control what I'm attracted to. Why do you people always act like attraction is a choice? I can't make my dick get hard for 90 year old women. Even most the women I see at the hospital I work at who are around my age don't look attractive to me and I'm only 30. If I didn't know their ages, I'd have guessed they were in their 40s or 50s. White people don't age well.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:36 PM
1

Are you sure you replied to the correct comment?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:33 PM
1

I married him because he is kind, funny and attractive. What if he also wasn't attractive in addition to not making enough money?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:17 PM
1

Assuming you're a reasonably attractive woman, you could easily find a man just like that who makes more money though. What makes him so special?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:13 PM
0

By your logic you can never marry because you'll find your partner unattractive in 10 years. That's the truth though. That's why I never want to marry because even the best looking woman in the world would eventually lose her beauty.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:13 PM
1

Why are you in thid group if you're still an incel? Because A) I've been banned from almost every other similar community and B) I thought this place was about trying to help people exit the redpill but apparently it's just an echo chamber for people who already left redpill to mock and ridicule those who are still in. As everyone keeps saying, the only way to know what a woman wants in a partner or is seeking in a relationship is to ask her directly. That is literally the only way. What women w…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 03:07 PM
1

are you physically disabled? Not really. Are you physically deformed? I'm obese and bald, most people would consider that physically deformed. Are you under 5”? I'm 6'1" and that hasn't helped me. That's why I hate it when shorter guys bitch about their height. Height means fuck all if you don't have any other attractive qualities. Have you been medically (not self or friend diagnosed but actually by a doctor) diagnosed with any mental disorders? I am autistic. Professionally diagnosed and I onl…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/26 03:05 PM
1

I really do not understand attraction to personality. My penis has never gotten hard over a woman's personality. Or her education, income, job title, interests, whatever. Only women's looks have done that for me. Obviously that stuff is important for a relationship though.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/26 07:46 AM
2

Do you live in a small town? Yes.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 02:27 PM
1

Problem is most people my age already have plenty of friends and don't want any more. Or they're married with kids and get all their social needs met that way.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 02:15 AM
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Going to women's subs like r/TwoXChromosomes, r/Feminism and such and seeing how they talk about men doesn't help either. Like, if this is how women think about men (even if much of it is justified), doesn't exactly make women seem very likable. "Oh, this is just the Internet". And? These are real people posting this stuff. How do I know which women think I'm a monster just for being born with a penis and which ones don't?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/26 08:55 PM
1

everyone else doesn't have to deal with your bullshit. Again, back to everyone else's issues being more important than mine. Nobody's asking you to do shit for other people. You previously mentioned other people that have gone through trauma but still do good things for others, strongly suggesting that's the right way to be and how I should be. They're just asking for a basic line of human decency I can fake that well enough to get by in the world. At least enough to hold down a job. Money is a …
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 11:05 PM
1

But you know what normal people do when they go through terrible stuff? I'm clearly not normal. Some people go through trauma and it doesn't affect them. Others are permanently damaged by it. But I'm apparently supposed to just man up and put a smile on my face so others won't be offended. So I'm supposed to just go around doing things for others even though nobody does anything for me? Fuck that. I have needs too.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 10:46 PM
1

It is society's fault that I am the way I am. You think people treat me badly because I'm an asshole when in reality, people treating me badly made me an asshole. But you refuse to acknowledge that.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 10:38 PM
1

I can post what I please. If you don't like it, you're welcome to ignore it or block me. Yeah, I'm a selfish person because the only person who cares about me is me.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 10:32 PM
1

I'll be happy when I win the game of life over them.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 10:17 PM
1

I know this is a very late reply, but I just can't handle the fact that people treated me badly all my life and faced no punishment for it. They're all out living better lives than me and it makes me want to die.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/26 09:07 PM
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They hide behind it because nobody likes or respects men who do not have these things.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 07:37 PM
0

Obviously I do. And it seems to be the truth.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 03:08 PM
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you lack of self-esteem Lack of self esteem is justified when you're unattractive and nobody likes you.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 03:43 AM
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The “history” that they think they know is more often than not, about as deep and accurate as a collection of tropes from fictional media. Exactly. They harken back to an era that they weren't even alive for and base their assumptions about what the past was like from "Leave it to Beaver" type shit. Or old folks who are romanticising their youth because of nostalgia. I'm sure that in some ways, the past was better. But I'm also sure that it was worse in a lot of ways. These guys just want to bel…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/26 11:36 PM
2

Lying about what? That attraction requires butterflies and isn’t a checklist of good enough? Lying about looks not being the thing that causes the butterflies and that it's my personality and not my looks stopping me from having sex and relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:28 AM
1

rejection can fuck him up to that extent still hasn't been resolved. Of course you're dismissing natural valid feelings as wrong. Constant rejection will drive anyone mad. What about circumstances where packing up your ball and going home simply isn't an option? Unless you hit on someone at work, when will that not be an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:27 AM
1

Friendship with a woman is net cost with no upsides whatsoever. I wish I could upvote this a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:26 AM
2

Stop lying to me and dismissing my very valid feelings. That's what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:14 AM
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I have no friends except one cousin I only see once a month. If you're friends with someone, you'd probably have enough in common with them that you would be compatible as a couple. I wouldn't even be friends with someone who's interests and values are different from my own. It's my looks. Girls have told me such in school. And I look worse now than I did then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:10 AM
2

Dude my ex boyfriend made way less money then me and that was never an issue for the duration of the relationship. I bet he still made a liveable wage. I make $15 an hour at 30 years old. I can't even afford half of rent, let alone the other stuff that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:08 AM
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Yeah, like you know all that bullshit early on. None of those things are why I'm a virgin, never dated and never even kissed at the age of 30. It's my physical appearance, my lack of money and my autism. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:03 AM
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Incompatibility= he's not good looking, rich or popular enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:05 AM
2

And some men will never experience this from any woman. Yet you all expect us to just shut up and deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:04 AM
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Because it's fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:03 AM
3

Yes it is. Rejecting means you're not good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:46 PM
3

Not wanting to date someone does not imply being “not good enough.” Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:44 PM
1

Someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:43 PM
0

It's either wasn't the real friendship from the beginning or you're making irrational decision with someone who is still a good friend Boo hoo. She's easily replaceable. Especially if he stops trying to be friends with women and befriends men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:43 PM
2

You don’t have to be fucking or dating a woman to have a woman in your life. Why would you want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:42 PM
5

Are we talking about multiple girls or asking the same girl multiple times? Probably the former. Like it or not, there's only so many times you can be rejected before it kills your self-esteem. Knowing that no woman will ever want you is soul-crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:41 PM
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It's a lot easier to end a friendship than drop a class or quit your job. If the guy doesn't want to be friends with her anymore, all he has to do is walk away and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:40 PM
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I don't see the point in being friends with women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:38 PM
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I'm a millennial (Barely, I was born in 1995).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:31 PM
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Integrity. Don't know what that means. Concern for others. I only care about myself. Fun to be around (the opposite of a whiner). I think I'm fun to be around, but most people would probably disagree. Common genuine interests or at least be passionate about something interesting. Almost no one shares my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:00 PM
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You're probably a rare outlier, plus you're a woman. Guys make a much bigger deal of this stuff, but women care too. I can't count how many posts I've seen of women saying they'd never be with a man who's a virgin. They significantly outnumber those who would. You’ve internalized a certain kind of bullying and it’s stopped you from growing up and making friends I've internalized it because children, unlike adults, don't lie to protect people's feelings. They say their true opinions. Adults still…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:48 PM
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Just show you have the qualities people value in a friend. What qualities would those be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:42 PM
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I don't whine about it. Not outside of Reddit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:33 PM
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Correct. To them, we should just shut up and take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:12 PM
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Nobody wants to be friends with sexless men unless it's to make fun of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:48 PM
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Men with autism have it way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:37 PM
4

And of course you have an OnlyFans. I'll note not to take you seriously anymore. Not that I ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:34 PM
1

Well, you're a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:32 PM
1

So you'd rather have power over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:31 PM
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That's not an argument. My lived experience has told me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:30 PM
14

Looks are more important for women to have than men. Not really anymore. It's important for both to have looks, and seems to be becoming even more important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:28 PM
0

Except that almost no woman wants a man who has less resources than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:26 PM
1

I think homo/bisexuality also plays a role. I can't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that more women identify as gay or bisexual than men. I think lesbian and bisexual women are more likely to be open about their same sex attractions than gay and bisexual men, who are more likely to remain closeted, thus without a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:19 PM
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This gets posted constantly. You might as well give up. Nobody (especially not the users on this sub. Even one of the mods called us "retarded") likes, respects or has any sympathy for autistic men. We are, at best, begrudgingly tolerated. Not even autistic women like us. Maybe you'll get extremely lucky and find someone, but the odds are very low. Hopefully you see this post before the mods delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:22 PM
1

You need someone to love you, or at least know and like you, to be willing to do that. That'll never happen. But if you do go somewhere where prostitution is legal, there are operations that are pretty strict about STD testing, and if it was legal you wouldn't have to worry about being arrested. That doesn't solve the bigger problems: Not being able to enjoy it and the woman not being genuinely attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:13 PM
1

Even women who have casual sex expect to be kissed. Why? I'm never going to get a chance to be good at it. for not strings attached sex without texting you're going to need a prostitute. I suspect "texting" is a typo. Looks more and more like the only way I'll ever get laid is with a prostitute. I just don't want to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for it, put myself at risk of getting arrested or catching STDs and I could never enjoy the sex knowing that she isn't attracted to me and is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:47 PM
1

I definitely see dates as something I don't want to do and is just mediocre pretext for what I really want: sex. I've never been on a date and I have almost zero interest in doing so. Having to pay money and listen to some woman talk about her life and hobbies. I'd die of boredom. I'm only interested in myself, so I wouldn't be a good choice for dating. I have no desire to ever get married or have any long term relationships. I'll only have kids if I become rich someday and would rather raise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:22 PM
1

Probably. I just can't imagine how all these old, ugly fat people I see can stand to touch each other let alone screw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 03:47 PM
1

I find it hard to believe that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:25 PM
2

Yep. Didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:37 PM
2

You are a worthy human being simply because you exist. That's bullshit. None of us matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:37 PM
3

Just give it up. There's no hope for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:05 PM
2

Too expensive, it's illegal where I am (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more money), I don't want to risk getting arrested or catching STDs and there's no way I could enjoy the sex knowing that she's not attracted to me and is only doing it for money. So my only option is to try and rid myself of my attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:48 PM
2

Even my looksmatch wouldn't be attracted to me. They can still get guys who aren't fat and ugly like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:32 PM
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Because I'm fat, bald, poor and autistic. No woman is attracted to that (even though some have lied to me about that) and I'm probably never going to change. Some of those things can't be changed even if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:25 PM
4

Yeah it is. Why do you think I want to rid myself of my heterosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:21 PM
5

Everything comes with a price. I'd give anything if I could stop being attracted to women because I'll never have one and I'm tired of wanting something I can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 PM
2

By lowering their testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:48 PM
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Because I've been told outright by women on here that, and I quote "No woman has ever gotten wet over a 300 pound man". A woman's personality has never given me a boner, so why would I expect a woman's coochie to get wet over a man's personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:04 AM
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Worse. He's dead so he at least got what was coming to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:28 PM
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I'm not sure. Probably both. Definitely traumatized but I think I may be aromantic as well. I've never been interested in getting married. I'm not even that interested in going on a date (why would I want to pay money to listen to some woman talk about herself? I'd be bored out of my mind) or even kissing. And even sex, I mainly just want for validation. That, and I desperately want to touch titties and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:24 PM
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Individuals are different. Not really. Most people are pretty much just interchangeable NPCs. Every interaction I have with them is exactly the same. Interacting with one man is not interchangeable with interacting with another man It is to me. This is why you are not friends equally with every man you know. I have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:09 PM
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I want them to love me” and you’ll understand everything. I don't care if they love me because I don't want a relationship. Love means fuck all. My mother loves me but I don't care about her one bit. I want casual sex, nothing more. But it has to be with women who are attracted to me. Not because she needs money, not because she feels sorry for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:57 PM
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Bro, even autistic people know what it means to like certain one person more than another person, because you get along with them better due to their personality traits, disposition etc. There's only one person I've ever known that I genuinely like and enjoy being around and that's my (male) cousin. Everyone else I merely tolerate because I have to (work, etc.) you’d probably prefer a sex worker if you only want pussy. I wouldn't enjoy it because I wouldn't be able to enjoy sex with a woman who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:48 PM
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It’s just a fact that women still prefer partners who like them for individual reasons, not just because you want pussy and she has one. The pussy is the only thing separating her from, say, a guy friend. What else, besides sex, can a woman give a straight man that he cannot get from another man? Same with women and men, men can't provide straight women with anything they can't get from another woman. And according to straight women, their sex toys please them better than any man could. So what …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:30 PM
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Why would I like a woman for who she is when who she is isn't that special? There's millions more just like her, both men and women. I already have a Toyota Corolla, why would I want another one that's exactly the same as the one I have except in a different color? Even if it had different features, I could easily go find another one in my preferred color that has those features. Now if the other color has features that are only available on models that color, maybe it would be worth having.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:26 PM
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Unless these people you're talking about never go anywhere in public other than their stupid D&D groups, I don't see how they would only be visible in those spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:19 PM
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I'm not in denial at all. You're just an asshole making assumptions about a person you've never seen. I'll probably never lose a significant amount of weight because I'm not willing to give up food that tastes good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:17 PM
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The problem is that I don't love her. I tolerate her at best. She is not a loveable or even likable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:13 PM
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I'm not interested in that, so why would I go? I see plenty of couples at my job and in grocery stores and whatnot. I see fat women with skinny men almost every day. I almost never see fat men with any woman at all, and on the rare occasions he does have a woman with him, she's usually fatter than him. Or it's an older couple that have been together for decades so the man was likely thinner at the beginning. Outside of celebrities and fictional characters, I've seen a fat guy with a thin woman m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:13 PM
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All I have to do is lay down. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:09 PM
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I don't think I'll be able to lose significantly more weight because I'm not willing to change my diet any more. There are enough women in the world that like fat dudes Again, I've never seen any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:04 PM
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Also, the part where it's easier for a lil guy to climb up on a big lady, but a Big Boy climbing on top of a Little Lady is going to crush her, What's stopping her from climbing on top of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:52 PM
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Unfortunately, it is true. Not for me. Yes, I've got a lot of fat in my pubic area, but not so much that my dick has disappeared. And I'm not that well endowed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:44 PM
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This feels too real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:41 PM
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You should focus on yourself and the opinions of people that care about you. No one other than my mother cares about me. That's just how it is. identify areas of your life you want to change and change those, because I assure you. Even if you found a relationship your inherit insecurity surrounding your weight would become a slow poison constantly forcing you to ask your partner for validation, which is incredibly unattractive. So you're saying I shouldn't date until I'm at an acceptable weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:40 PM
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If that were true, I'd have no dick left, and I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:38 PM
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Call you out on your shit. Like I just did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:52 PM
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You're giving men bad advice. I can't just ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:35 PM
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Believing fictional characters are real is not a good suggestion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:24 PM
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The only solution is to decenter women and seek happiness and fulfillment in single life (hobbies, career, sports/fitness, friends). None of this can replace the joy of being desired by women. Most men will end up with jobs they hate, no one wants to be friends with men who can't get sex or dates from women and hobbies are a massive cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:04 PM
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I’m not religious but I know people that feel happy, loved, and valued by their god. Believing in fairy tales helps no one. I'd rather know the truth and be unhappy than tell myself comforting lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:59 PM
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So I'm supposed to watch people in their bedrooms or something? Just because I see a couple in public doesn't mean they have sex regularly or at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:21 AM
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So now you come with random anecdotes and judging people's sex life based on looks. Yes, because more attractive people tend to have more sex. Between 10-20% of marriages are reported to be sexless Not everyone participates in these studies. Most sexless couples probably wouldn't admit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:17 AM
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And you have no proof that they are having sex. Am I really supposed to believe that the 400 pound couples I see all the time are really having sex? Who would want to have sex with that? Nobody. The guy probably can't even get it up even if his wife was hot since overweight and obese men usually have ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:54 AM
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If you're not willing to answer me, why should I bother answering you? You seem so convinced that I am wrong, but have provided nothing to prove such. What am I supposed to do? Go up to unattractive men and ask how often they get sex? r/deadbedrooms, years of comedy routines and sitcoms talking about how their marriages have little to no sex, women saying they're not attracted to their husbands. That has to count for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:42 AM
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Proof that they are having sex and the woman actually enjoys it and is sexually attracted to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:29 AM
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How else are we supposed to date when women have made it clear that they don't want men to approach them in public or try to be friends with them first. Sounds like a lose-lose situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:25 AM
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They have little to no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:18 AM
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So you're blaming me for things that happened before I was born, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:10 AM
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So what are you saying? People should move in with their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:08 AM
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What if you like the way you are and don't want to "improve"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:00 AM
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It doesn't matter what you do. Women just don't want undesirable men to get partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:55 AM
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A dog would be a better companion than her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:50 AM
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I think generally men who even if they are fat, but have muscle, will likely have more success because there is still an underlying indicator of strength I have hardly any muscle whatsoever. My arms are just bone and fat. If I lost all the fat on my body, I'd probably weigh 120 pounds or something. When I say there's literally nothing attractive about me whatsoever, I mean it.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/25 12:02 AM
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Who told you that? Pretty much everyone. And I see it all over the Internet. Whenever a fat person asks how they can get a date, they're always told to either A) Lose weight first or B) Date another fat person. Most thin people aren't attracted to fat people. I don't even think most fat people are attracted to each other. Whenever I see fat people in a relationship, my assumption is that they're either settling because they're lonely and no one else wants them, or they weren't fat at the beginni…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/25 09:41 PM
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Then why are fat people (including me) told that they have to either date other fat people or lose weight if they want to date people who aren't fat? In public, I see thin men with fat women constantly (I live in a low income rural area, so maybe that's more of a thing here). I've seen a fat man with a thin woman maybe once or twice not counting celebrities and fictional characters.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/25 12:20 AM
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I'm not really sure how in person interactions would help much. If you ask someone in person if you're unattractive, most people are going to say no even if you are because we're taught not to be polite and not hurt anyone's feelings and there's a chance you might get punched in the face if you tell the truth. When you're anonymous and behind the screen, you can say your true feelings without fear of social backlash or retaliation.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 07:03 PM
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It doesn't matter what you see, what matters is reality. So I'm supposed to just believe something without evidence?
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 05:39 PM
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I don't know. These last couple days I've been slipping. Especially in the time since I first posted this. I've been looking on BBW subreddits as a way to try and condition myself to be attracted to women my size, and most of them are OF girls who are getting plowed by thin men, which again sent me into the "fat women can fuck thin men, but fat men can't get anything" mindset.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:34 AM
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It does sound quite a bit critical though.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:32 AM
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Yes, but keeping the pizza toppings analogy, I'd be an unpopular topic like anchovies. Sure, some people like it, but I still feel like I'd be unlikely to run into such a person. I'm trying to have faith, but I tend not to believe in things without absolute concrete evidence. Hence why I'm an atheist.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:30 AM
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Thanks. But I still can't help but feel like no woman would ever want me as I am.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:28 AM
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Ah you have talked to all 4 billion women, nice. I think I've gotten a big enough sample size to tell. Women desire men less than men desire women. That's pretty much fact. Hence why so many women are dropping out of the dating scene. Most men date, even big guys. As I mentioned in my other post, I almost never see this outside of celebrities and fictional characters. Whenever I see guys my size in public, they're almost always alone with no wedding rings on. If you're not dating at all then the…
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:25 AM
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Thinking most women only find a minority of men attractive. They do. They've said so themselves. It's just that it's not the exact same men, though there's definitely overlap. Thinking your weight is keeping you from dating. It is. Almost no women are attracted to guys my size. They exist, sure. But the supply of fat guys outweighs (pun not intended) the demand.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:03 AM
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Still very far from reality How so?
/r/ExRedPill09/12/25 09:03 PM
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I'm trying to find a new therapist but it hasn't been an easy process. Hopefully that changes soon. I also quit OnlyFans, so that helps a bit too.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/25 08:09 PM
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I think you’ve internalized your bullies’ message: fat is bad. Actually, of all the things people have made fun of me for over the years, I can probably count on one hand the number of times someone has made fun of my weight. But I've seen how other fat people are treated by the masses. No point in ignoring the truth. I can try and tell myself otherwise, but it won't change the fact that 99.9% of humans find fat people gross and unattractive. The fat couples I see in public are either settling o…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/25 04:26 PM
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I bet you anything that when those heavier women got with the men, they were thinner. Maybe, maybe not. Respectfully I think you’ve internalized that you’re not attractive and it probably affects how you present to women. It didn't come from nowhere. Girls in school frequently called me ugly and any time someone even hinted at dating me, the answer was always something in the realm of "Ew! Hell no!"
/r/ExRedPill06/12/25 02:30 PM
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Yes but, how did she react when she found out you were a virgin? Or did you lie about it?
/r/ExRedPill30/11/25 03:49 AM
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I think there is an idea that attractive men never get rejected and that is why they are confident, but that isnt true. Of course not, but they don't get rejected nearly as much as unattractive men. I'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery than I do finding a woman who's attracted to me that I am also attracted to. they’re just confident enough to keep trying until they hit a yes It's easy to not lose hope when only, like, 1 out of every 100 women they appro…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 07:11 PM
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If sex with fat dudes is unpleasant, then you're saying I have to wait several years until I've lost a significant amount of weight before I try?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 05:55 PM
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How'd you lose it at that age?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 03:30 PM
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That's a good point.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 05:50 PM
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If you don't care who or what she is, why does it matter if she desires you or not? Because even though I don't care about others, I still want others to care about me. That's just the way I am. I can't help it. What else besides sex can a woman give me that I couldn't get from being friends with a man? I'm not homosexual so having sex with men is out of the question. I am heterosexual even though I wish I wasn't. I'd give anything to be asexual. But I can't. I also want to finally become a real…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 12:47 AM
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Because there's no where else. I now see that this was a mistake. Guess I'll have to just wait 30 days until my ban in Purple Pill Debate is up.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 12:26 AM
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If looks is all that matters, why not pay for sex? It costs too much money, I live in the US so it's illegal here (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more), I don't want to risk catching STDs and I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy sex knowing that the woman doesn't desire me and is only doing it for money.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:51 PM
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Your attitude. Being a good little boy isn't going to make women sexually attracted to me. I'll just be inoffensive to them. Nothing more.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:46 PM
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If you want to debate and analyze people's ideas I suggest you go to the Purple pill debate sub. Guess I'll just have to wait 30 days until my ban is lifted and go back on there then.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:44 PM
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You asked for help and you're currently screeching that I'm lying. Okay. Like I said, I believe nothing without proof. Try to improve your situation I don't want to have to do things I don't want to do for another five or ten years.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:06 PM
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Both men and women who can cook, are instantly elevated to a higher place on the attractiveness scale. Not for me. I can cook for myself. Why would I care if she can? Most fat people are fat because they eat mostly fast processed food and rarely if ever cook at all. Most professional chefs aren't overweight. The only thing I'm attracted to in women is looks.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:05 PM
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nor do you have any interests. I have interests, they just aren't socially acceptable ones. If you could have the attention of people, then you would treat them like shit, as you've been treated in your opinion. Proof? Do you consider getting professional help in that area? I've tried numerous times. It doesn't work for me. Antidepressants don't work on me either.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:00 PM
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I've no issue with fat guys and can find them attractive. You probably wouldn't find me attractive. Your definitely of fat is probably different than mine. I do have another theory too that women tend to carry fat in more "forgiving" ways so can still have a feminine shape that men find attractive, whereas men tend to carry the most fat in their bellies and faces which isn't as flattering. I said this in my OP and you're probably onto something. I unfortunately don't carry my fat well. I have a …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 10:36 PM
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My friend weighs 300+ and has a beautiful girlfriend who loves him. So what, I'm supposed to just take your word for it? No. People lie all the time. Even if you're not lying, I'm guessing that the guy is mostly muscle and/or carries his fat better than I do (No gut, man tits, love handles, etc.) or you are overstating the attractiveness of the woman. He has a fantastic personality and he's funny too. I was that too in middle school and high school and it didn't get me anywhere. Girls never saw …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 10:33 PM
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Nope.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:55 PM
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So you can only be happy if you enact horrible pain on others. Right? Apparently so. I wish so much I could go back in time and beat all those people up who bullied me like I should have done back then but didn't because I was a pussy.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:55 PM
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But there literally is evidence. There's a tonne of overweight, happy men with hot girlfriends. I've seen them, I know them Prove it. Show me men who are as fat as me who has a decent looking wives/girlfriends and aren't rich and famous. I'm not just going to take your word. I need evidence to believe something exists and nothing I see in real life corroborates this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:51 PM
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I've tried therapy numerous times. It hasn't helped. I won't be happy or mentally sound unless either: A) I become good looking, rich and famous. B) I get revenge on everyone who's treated me badly over the years.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:47 PM
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you don't really like people. I have no reason to like people. They're annoying, boring and they've treated me like shit my entire life. Why should people like you back? They shouldn't. But unfortunately I still have the human disease that desires love and affection even though I I'm not capable of giving it back. What would you like to talk about? Things I want to talk about. People telling me how great I am and so forth.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:33 PM
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What are your real life experiences? I see ugly fat women with thin handsome men but almost never see ugly fat men with women at all. You said in another comment you don't engage in conversations with women anymore. Because I'm a big, fat, bald, half-black dude. Women are naturally afraid and repulsed by me so I just avoid them (especially attractive women) unless absolutely necessary so I don't get kicked in the nads or receive false accusations. I also don't want to give myself false hope. I'm…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:22 PM
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Reddit is but a very thin slice of reality, and a very biased one. You seem to enjoy it, though, so fuck it. Nothing I see in real life contradicts what people say on Reddit. And funny how you didn't address the other more important stuff I said.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:09 PM
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Yeah, because unlike everyone else, I don't mince words, I tell the truth and I don't lie to protect others feelings. It's pretty well known that most men would rather settle for someone they're not attracted to than be single and women (nowadays at least) would rather remain single than settle for someone they're not attracted to.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:04 PM
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And since when do you talk to women to know their opinion? Reddit my friend. Reddit. But you're going to some how say that it's an alternate reality with non-existent people. Few women in real life would honestly list off the physical traits in men that they don't like. Not to other men, anyway, but they know men will get pissed off and potentially hurt them. So they lie to men about how looks aren't everything and that they don't care about looks so that men don't harm them. But then (I saw ano…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:00 PM
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Because nothing I see in real life contradicts what I see on OnlyFans. And this isn't artificially generated content from an alternate reality (at least not yet anyway). The women on OF are real people. When I see real fat women that I find attractive having sex with men who are in much better shape than me, why should I believe I have a chance? I almost never see fat women with fat men in real life. They're mostly with skinny guys.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:46 PM
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I personally would consider my face to be average at best. Most people on the other thread said my face didn't look that bad (some even said I was handsome), but fat is almost universally seen as unattractive. If you asked most women to choose between a guy with an ugly face but a trim, fit body vs a guy with a normal face who's fat, 99.9% would choose the former. I know I personally don't care for faces that much because very few people have truly ugly faces. It's usually only the elderly and p…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:44 PM
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just because some other people have dehumanizing views on women doesn't make it okay. I never said it was okay. Have u considered that perhaps overweight women have in general nicer personalities and see men as people rather than just their genitals and thats why they are in relationships. Why aren't they in relationships with fat guys? And why are the fat guys mostly single? That's my question.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:37 PM
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My fiancée is reading this and she said: most important thins are being polite, clean and keeping their word. I doubt she'd say this if she saw what I looked like.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 05:27 PM
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What a try? Losing weight or changing my attitude?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 05:04 PM
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And if I change my so-called attitude without losing weight, it won't increase my chances. And I don't think I can realistically get down to a weight where women I'm attracted to would want me back.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:14 PM
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Man, there's no Chads irl, go outside. So you're saying there aren't really attractive men out there who get to bang more hot chicks than any normal man would even meet in real life? Ask women: would you like a men whose life goal is being able to fuck whoever he wants, in order to get the social status associated with having women. There are likely men out there who do and who get to fulfill their desires. Difference is they're physically attractive and/or rich and I'm not. And what am I suppos…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:13 PM
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And do you think anyone is realistically doing this? Yes. The so called Chads get to do it. Maybe not every one, but I'd say at least 99% of the time if they want to fuck a hot chick, they get what they want. Don't you see that the sheer fact that you want this makes you unnatractive to a lot of women, most women, really? No woman in real life knows I feel this way.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:04 PM
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They're real people doing real things. And like I said, the people I see in everyday life confirm this. I rarely see fat men with a woman in public while almost every day woman I see has a man skinnier than her. Why do you people not believe me?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:56 PM
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You are perseverating on looks far more than anyone in this thread. Because looks are required for me to feel sexually attracted to women. And the majority of other people are the same way unless they're asexual or demi sexual. Other people just like to downplay the importance of looks and I'm going to call out bullshit when I see it.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:53 PM
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It's not like I'm the only person who's ever said this. It seems to be a rather common take on this platform. And I've heard men in real life say this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:49 PM
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connecting with people enough for other people to want to hook up with them. This is something I've never been able to understand. I've never wanted to have sex with a woman because she had a good personality or a good career or education or anything like that. Obviously that stuff is important for relationships. But as I said before, I'm not really that interested in being in a relationship. Looks are the only thing that arouse me sexually. I see an attractive woman, I want to bang her. That's …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:46 PM
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Yes. But I've been banned from the only one I've found for 30 days.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:05 AM
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Again, when it's proven wrong, my mind will be changed. I see no evidence that I'm wrong. Therapy doesn't work. I've been several times before.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:59 AM
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Yes I want to leave. But I see little evidence that the redpill is wrong. I'm not just going to believe something isn't true when everything I see in my life says otherwise.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:47 AM
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No. Don't know how you figure I am.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:46 AM
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I'd like people to convince me I'm wrong, but that hasn't happened yet.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:41 AM
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So you're denying that people pay money to look at hot people? Why would they do that if they're not attracted to them? Why aren't 300+ pound people modeling and acting (well some are, but it's a very small number). Money doesn't lie. You think people are paying them for their acting ability? Most A-list actors actually suck at acting.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:01 AM
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So you're denying that people pay money to look at hot people? Why would they do that if they're not attracted to them? Why aren't 300+ pound people modeling and acting (well some are, but it's a very small number). Money doesn't lie.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:01 AM
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Nope. It's my weight. Women don't know my personality.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:56 AM
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You seem super focused on looks while trying to say others are and I find that really hilarious. Because they are focused on looks. Hence why people who look a certain way make millions of dollars acting and modeling. Everyone else lies about it though. I'm being honest.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:53 AM
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No he wasn't but he was deffo over 250. So he was 100 pounds lighter. At 250, I could do kip-ups. If he was 350 pounds back then, would she still have agreed to date him? Probably not.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:36 AM
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Maybe, but I said hetero for a reason. The men are still missing out on sex and relationships if women are dating and fucking other women. Sometimes yeah, but this just means older women get screwed. Again, older women are single more than older men because they choose to be. They choose not to pursue any more relationships once their husbands die or they get divorced. Sometimes, but that sucks for the women. How so? They get a hot man. Even if they have to share him with other women, that's pro…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:29 AM
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All you have to do is meet one person who is into you. There's two problems with this: I don't want just one woman. I want to be able to bang pretty much any woman I find attractive. I want variety, not the same old person every same old day. I can't imagine ever meeting a woman who finds me attractive, not even the unattractive women. I have a better chance of winning the lottery.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:23 AM
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Are the thin man and heavy woman having sex in front of you? Well, like I said in the OP, all those BBW women I used to follow on OnlyFans are fucking in-shape men, yet have the gall to lie to me and say they find me attractive. I point out the contradictions and they seem to get upset. I don't put up with lies or bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:18 AM
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Well you ain't pinocchio. Then what am I?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:48 AM
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You are already a real man. No one else thinks so. I certainly don't feel like a man. I feel like a boy in a (kind of) man's body. I noticed you didn't say I wasn't a loser.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:33 AM
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How could almost every woman have a man but a bunch of men don't have women? Numbers don't back that up. Wasn't there a study that came out saying that over 60% of young men aged 18-29 were single while only 30% of the women in that age group were single? There are ways that that numbers can make sense: Those women are in relationships with other women. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read somewhere once that women are more likely to be attracted to the same sex than men and that gay and…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:32 AM
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The point is that I want to feel like a god. Admired by all men and desires by all (attractive) women. I also want to prove to myself that I'm not a loser and that I'm a real man.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:28 AM
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I know tons of husky men with hot girlfriends. Either the guys are rich or you're overstating the attractiveness of the women they're with. My bestie who is tiny and cute is dating a 350lb guy, and he rocks and is adorable. Was he 350lb when they started dating?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:26 AM
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There was no point. You just want to accuse me of being misogynistic because I said something about women you don't like.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:15 AM
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Even if men aren't wearing wedding rings even though they're married, then explain why almost every obese man I see when I'm out in public doesn't have a woman with him while almost every obese woman does, and why 99% of the time, the man is thinner than her? You might say "just because a man is alone doesn't mean he doesn't have a wife or girlfriend. Maybe she's at home or somewhere else." So you mean to tell me that all these big dudes just coincidentally happen to not have their woman with th…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:48 AM
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Why not try to see women as people instead of fatties who don’t want to fuck you? These are not mutually exclusive.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:43 AM
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because things are crappy for you now, but statistically they're very likely to be better some day. Probably not. I've just about given up on life.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:34 AM
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So you're not American? That explains a lot.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:27 AM
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When a woman find me attractive enough to do me, I'll believe it. But then you don’t seem to be concerned with all the older women who aren’t getting laid, are you? It's not my problem so I don't think about it much. But I think it's bad for anyone to want something that they can't have. Is there any evidence that old women aren't getting laid? I know that there tends to be more older single women than older single men, but that's largely because older women are less likely to seek new relations…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:13 AM
1

What losers are you hanging out with that care about this shit? I don't hang out with anyone. I don't have any friends. All I know is that I was bullied relentlessly through middle and high school because I'd never done anything with a woman (among many other things). I see movies and TV shows where adult male virgins are always mocked and portrayed as lesser human beings. People watch that stuff and begin to believe it themselves and act accordingly. pay for sex Again, I'd never enjoy sex with …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:03 AM
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I believe what I see with my own eyes. And what I see with my own eyes is the exact opposite of what these studies say. And they're saying "overweight" not "obese". There's a bit of a difference there.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:55 AM
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You got banned from purple pill debate? I got banned because I violated the "No woe-is-me, incel or blackpill content" because I said in a few posts that sometimes I want to kill myself because women don't desire me. But besides that, there are simply more men comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers than women comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers. I'm not talking about just casual sex. I'm talking about relationships as well. Almost every obese man I …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:53 AM
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I live in a rural area. You probably live in an urban area. You don't know what goes on in these parts.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:49 AM
0

Maybe that's true. I've never heard of this, so I don't want to say you're wrong, but I still have a hard time believing this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:49 AM
1

I want sex and the social status that being with an attractive woman grants. I've never wanted to get married or have a long-term relationship. I want to live by myself, do what I want when I want without having to answer to someone else. I along with my mother, live in my grandmother's trailer. Yep, a trailer park. I want a dog more than almost anything in the world, but I can't have one because my grandmother won't allow it. I'm tired of women telling me what I can and can't do. Why would I wa…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:47 AM
1

I make $15 an hour. I can't afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for sex workers. I live in the US and sex work is illegal outside of certain parts of Nevada. I don't want to risk getting arrested. Sure, I could travel to a place where it is legal, but that will cost even more money that I don't have. I don't want to risk catching STDs. I know I wouldn't enjoy sex knowing that she doesn't actually desire me and is only doing it for money. Even back when I was using OnlyFans, I'd send t…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:41 AM
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Would it surprise you to know that studies show men are much more likely to become obese after getting married? That's the point. They become obese after they get married. If they're single and already obese, they're shit out of luck.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:37 AM
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So masturbate. I do. It's not the same. I want to know what ass and titties feel like. Maybe focus a little less on women and sex. Kind of hard to do when they're everywhere.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:35 AM
1

A lot. Like I said, I live in a low income rural area. People in these areas are more likely to be morbidly obese.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:18 AM
1

So pay for it. I don't make enough money to pay for it. It's illegal where I am (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more money), I don't want to risk catching STDs and I could never enjoy the sex because I know she doesn't actually desire me and is just doing it for money. I don’t want a relationship because that’s too much work. I don't want a relationship because there's no woman on the planet I could put up with living in my house, seeing 24/7 until death. I want to li…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:18 AM
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If you're talking about this threadthis thread, no. The one I'm referring to was posted a day ago and got deleted by the mods since apparently those types of posts are against the rules. And like I said, I've been over 300 pounds since I was in my teens. It's definitely my weight.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:14 AM
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but it might be worth knowing that there's a certain way in which fatter guys can make sex feel better that I'm gonna let you figure out for yourself. Some comments I've seen from women who have been asked if they would have sex with a fat man: "I don't want a man who has bigger tits than me" "Fat men sweat more, which is gross" "They often have ED and even if they don't, they don't have the stamina to last long or be exciting" "All but an inch or two of their dicks are buried under pubic fat."
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:11 AM
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You missed my point. Even when my personality was decent, girls still weren't attracted to me and saw me as nothing more than a friend or acquaintance. Why would I think that doing any of that stuff, which I have done before and has had no effect on me whatsoever, would increase my chances of getting laid?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:08 AM
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I've been a skinny woman with a fat boyfriend, and we found each other attractive. How fat are we talking? Skinny but with no visible abs? "Dad-bod" or full on obese? Because I never see the latter men with wives or girlfriends.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:59 PM
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Did they actually tell you that it was 'over'. Like actually used those words? Yes. At least two of them outright said "It's over". The majority opinion was "you have basically no chance if you don't lose weight." And one bitch on there kept constantly mentioning how repulsive I was and of the few who said I was attractive as I am, she'd reply that they're lying and to stop giving me false hope.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:56 PM
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You got downvoted to oblivion by the entire other thread because all you did was tell people you dont want to put in any work, you just deserve women's affection by existing. You think I care about down votes? I've seen dudes who make me look a like a male model who were still able to get sex and romance. If they can do it, why can't I? And no, their personalities aren't anything amazing either. Getting myself to a point where I'm attractive to women is just too much work. It's overwhelming. I'l…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:53 PM
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Because he, and almost every other person in r/virgin, were saying that it was over and I had no chance unless I lose weight.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:51 PM
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Girls liked my personality in school, but any time even a hint of dating me came up, the response was some variation of "Ew!" I'll admit my personality has taken a turn for the worst due to my mental health declining further, but I don't talk to women anymore beyond necessary interactions at work, so they can't know me well enough to know my personality.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:50 PM
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Same goddamn thing. You're telling me I'm not good enough as I am.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:41 PM
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Did you even read this part from my last reply? I was going to add that to my OP but I don't seem to be able to edit on mobile. And I highly doubt some 400-500 pound woman gained hundreds of pounds from pregnancy.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:40 PM
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And you aren't unloveable or undateable if you're fat. I recognize your username. You were one of the ones on r/virgin telling me I had no chance unless I lose weight. Backed up by this: You can overcome it, either by losing the weight or increasing your attractiveness in other areas. You're basically saying I have to lose weight if I want any sexual or romantic experience. Even if I get down to a healthy weight, I'll still have an ugly body due to all the stretch marks and loose skin. So I'll s…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:33 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:29 PM
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A. Many women gain weight as the result of pregnancy. I was going to add that to my OP but I don't seem to be able to edit on mobile. Still doesn't explain all cases of this. Nor does it explain why fat men don't have partners. B. have you considered that most women aren’t looking for casual sex? They aren't in relationships with fat men either. Like I said before, almost all fat dudes I see in public do not have women with them nor have wedding rings on. On the rare occasions I see a fat man wi…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:26 PM
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Lot's of women do not care about a man being a virgin. Yes they do. I see it constantly on Reddit. "I want someone with experience." "I don't want to have to teach a man how to have sex." "He's probably mentally ill and will stalk, rape or kill me." "He's not a real man." Doesn't help that I'm almost 30 and am not only a virgin, but have never gone on a date or even gotten my first kiss. If I was below 25, I'd think I might still have a chance, but I'm well past the age where 99.9% of women are …
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 10:27 PM
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I'm a virgin and probably always will be unless I pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:06 PM
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Can't speak for all men, but I definitely don't want monogamy. I'd get sick of being around the same old person every same old day. I like variety. I see a hot woman, I want to smash. None of that's going to happen of course, but I can dream I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:00 PM
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Boo-hoo. Plenty of misogynistic men have sex. In fact, I'd say that the majority of them do. As you all like to say to me, life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:47 PM
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Don't give me that shit. Lots of men who "don't deserve sex" still have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:44 PM
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You've done nothing to deserve my respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:41 PM
1

So you expect me to somehow stop myself from wanting what nature intended? This is why I don't like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:39 PM
1

Tough shit. It's biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:35 PM
1

Okay. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:27 PM
1

Not the same. I want to know what ass and titties feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:21 PM
1

How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:21 PM
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Because I'm sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:07 PM
1

It's definitely a large contributing factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:17 AM
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Kind of like how women look down on men in low income jobs like fast food or retail, but still go to those places to get their services.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:43 AM
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That is true. And that "compassion" is running out quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:24 AM
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My dad pretty much raped my mother. They never loved, liked or even were attracted to each other. My mom says he used to say she's so ugly she'd back lightning up a tree. Whatever the hell that means. Besides, I am not my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:52 AM
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It doesn't matter that it's not the majority of a relationship. Unless you're both aromantic asexuals, all that stuff has to be done at some point. What am I supposed to do? Take a bottle of Viagra and wear a blindfold when we gotta fuck? Avoid kissing and touching her? That'd be no different than living with a friend or a roommate. Is that really what relationships between the ugly are like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:32 AM
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But how can they stand to touch, kiss or have sex with each other? I couldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:20 AM
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It's hard to flirt when women hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:00 AM
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Attraction cannot be controlled. I can't make myself attracted to unattractive women just because I'm also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:00 AM
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I've been legitimately diagnosed by a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:57 AM
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Friends No one wants to be friends with someone like me because I've never been laid. family I hate my family and I can't create one of my own because I can't get laid. pets Can't get a pet because I live with my mother and grandmother and my grandmother doesn't want a dog in the house (it's her place) community My community sucks. The things I want to do to it would get me put in jail if I said them out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:53 AM
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But other men shaming you for being a virgin is not the fault of women who aren't interested in you. It doesn't matter whose fault it is. I still have to experience it. I still have to deal with not having any friends. I still have to deal with knowing I'm alone in this world, no one except my mom loves me and I'd be better off dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:35 PM
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Men aren't going to stop shaming though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:34 PM
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Companionship is a need. No human wants to associate with a grown man who's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:18 PM
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You’re trying to frame sex as a need just to impress some guys in a locker room, and it comes off as pathetic. Men don't like or respect men who don't have sex. I know because I've experienced it myself. People’s worth isn’t measured by whether they’ve had sex, and generalising about 30 year old virgins being dangerous is just ridiculous. Yes it is and it's not my generalization. Humans are biologically wired to hate and fear those who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:12 PM
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I’m not even going to entertain the social status argument. That just sounds like shit teenagers say to try and look cool. You're not going to entertain it because you know I'm right. If you were to ask anyone what their opinions were of a 30-year-old virgin, pretty much everyone who isn't an incel, a monk or a hardcore Christian will think he's a loser, he's dangerous, he might be a sexual predator and they wouldn't want to be anywhere near him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:02 PM
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Just because a very small minority of women are able to be worn down into liking men they're not physically attracted to doesn't mean most will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:57 PM
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Sex is literally our entire purpose for being alive. Without reproduction, the human race wouldn't exist. It's also important for social status. No one likes or respects men who haven't had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:36 PM
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Then why does it feel like a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:17 PM
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A rare honest woman. Yeah, they settled and they'll say whatever they can to justify it (to themselves if no one else) until they finally can't take it anymore and file for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:16 PM
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There are some types of men that almost no women are attracted to. Fat guys, bald guys, poor guys, guys with autism. And I'm sadly all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:17 PM
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Because any man with an ounce of self respect would choose to be single and sexless for life over fucking ugly, drunk, drug-addicted trailer trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:33 PM
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What the men here really want is validation. Well, it's not our fault that no one likes or respects men who don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:21 PM
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You're a woman. It's easier for you to go without sex because you don't have testosterone. Not as much as men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:13 PM
1

They do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:02 PM
1

Say what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:35 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:29 PM
1

You can choose nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:23 PM
1

Poor people on average have way more kids especially out of wedlock. Only because they have nothing else to do but fuck and can't afford birth control. Secondly even if they are ugly it still make my point stand If those men are desperate enough to fuck a bridge troll, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:20 PM
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Not commonly enough for it to be an option for most poor/broke men. Besides, have you seen how ugly trailer park bitches are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:11 PM
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Women do it all the time. Hence dead bedrooms. Sometimes they go on dates just to get a free meal. Sometimes they "give a guy a chance" because he has a good personality but isn't physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:48 PM
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Notice no women are denying this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:44 PM
1

You have never seen a woman with a broke guy? Shit happens all the time they even get pregnant by them Only in trailer parks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:42 PM
1

So what? I should just be completely okay with the fact that I'll never have sex? Just grin and bear it, huh? Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:08 PM
1

Seriously, you’re using your personal hobbies as the measure for whether men and women have anything in common. I am a man. And it's pretty common knowledge that most men and women have completely different interests. Men's interests: Sports, cars, eating meat, drinking beer, hunting, woodcarving, weightlifting, video games, comic books, science fiction, anime. Women's interests: Shopping, fashion, cooking, baking, gardening, scrapbooking, yoga, pilates, sewing, reality TV, social media. Hobbies…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:35 PM
2

Easier said than done, my friend. Maybe men will evolve out of their need for sex, but that won't happen in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:30 PM
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No one needs sex. It’s a want. Then why do we constantly crave it? Friends are companions. Pets are companions. Emotional needs can be fulfilled outside of romantic relationships. It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:24 PM
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They don't know the difference between actual attraction and chemistry and sexual arousal. So men are supposed to have relationships with women they're not sexually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:04 PM
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That's impossible. Men need sex and companionship. All humans do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:44 AM
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Keep looking and hoping. Pointless. Change what you’re attracted to. That's impossible. Attraction cannot be controlled. Work on yourself to be attractive to those women. Too much time, too much work, and there are things I can't change. Don’t date. Looks like I'll have to just suffer until death then. I hope it comes quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:16 AM
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Date the people who meet your standards that also want to date you. They don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:12 AM
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What other choice do you have when women you do like would never like you? Be alone forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:11 AM
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If you don’t want to date women who do, or have done xyz, don’t date women who do, or have done, xyz. It’s really that simple. So date unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:09 AM
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Society will never see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:02 AM
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Here’s the thing though, we’re not cavemen. Our brains don't know that. The last few centuries of modern development are a pimple on a hamster's ass compared to the many thousands of years we spent in the jungle. Society has changed very rapidly and our brains haven't caught up to it. Men and women have a shit ton in common Not really. Men and women don't usually have the same interests, hobbies or life experiences. There are exceptions, but they're rare. Almost no women on Earth share anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:51 AM
2

It is for low income men. And I'm one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:19 AM
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Men and women have nothing in common. Interacting with women feels unnatural. Do you really think cavemen and women were interacting with each other outside of fucking? Most likely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:45 PM
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Congratulations, you're an extremely rare outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:41 PM
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Second, there are lots of stay at home dads and husbands while the woman works. It's becoming more mainstream. They are still a very small minority. Most women cannot love or respect a man who doesn't make any money or even less money than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:38 PM
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Some of you act like relationships are adversarial. They are. Men and women are natural enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:36 PM
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Cow shit may stink less than horseshit, but they're both shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:33 PM
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Lack of self awareness Translation: Men don't worship the ground women walk on and find them flawless. unhealthy obsessions Translation: He plays video games and I don't like that. and not seeing women as equal humans with wants, desires, interests, etc. Translation: Male sexuality is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:35 PM
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Plenty of men are likeable. They're liked by other men. Maybe the problem is that women just don't like men and vice versa. Outside of sex and romance, men usually hang around other men and women usually hang around other women. Men and women have nothing in common. Men want women to act like men and women want men to act like women. That's never going to happen. Which is why I think society would be much better off being gender segregated, with children only born via artificial insemination. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:59 PM
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Exactly. Women don't want to hear about men's problems, they want us to go pay someone to pretend to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:41 PM
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I'm sure other stuff like exercising, cooking, certain TV shows or what have you could make for good mutual interests. Even that's rare. Women are more likely to exercise than men (and even among those who do exercise, they tend to favor different kinds of exercise. Women like things like cardio, yoga, pilates. Men usually prioritize weightlifting or martial arts), women usually enjoy cooking more than men, and men and women don't usually watch the same TV Shows and movies. Most men and women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:46 PM
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That'll likely never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:38 PM
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At least 80% of men would be single virgins forever in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah it is difficult because women are damn near impossible to satisfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:55 PM
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Go outside and you'll see a 5'2" latino man with charisma have zero issues dating/having a family because of the charisma they bring. Literally never seen this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:52 PM
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You're talking like a big percentage of the population is absolutely undesirable. They are. Touch grass and look outside, people are dating all kinds of people and usually within their league. Their leagues are gross and most of them are just settling because it's the best they can do. There's no way they could actually be attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:51 PM
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Exactly. Women don't like me. I've known that for a long time, so I just don't speak to them except on the exceedingly rare occasions they speak to me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:21 PM
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This may have been true a few decades ago, but now not so much. More and more women are dropping out of dating because men aren't attractive enough for them, resulting in many men who are involuntarily single/celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:29 PM
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And physical attractiveness is subjective. What one person finds attractive is different from another. There are some people who almost no one will be attracted to (I am one of them) and personality isn't going to change that. At best, women will just want to be their friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:13 PM
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when in an ideal scenario he'd date a girl who games and she'd date a guy who sows. Sure, that's ideal but unrealistic. Most women hate video games and most men hate sewing. Those hobbies are largely gender segregated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:23 PM
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I'm tired of men who can't get laid pretending like the answer to their sexual desires being unfulfilled is to cause trauma to women. It's not. Then what is the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:15 PM
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So why do you assume other people will? Because I'm an outlier. I'm not like "normal" people. Have you actually seen men treat each other like this in real life or is your view all based on what you see in movies? It's what I experienced firsthand throughout middle school and high school. Movies just confirmed what I already knew. If a guy is my friend it's because he's kind, funny, intelligent, disciplined etc all of those respectable characteristics don't suddenly disappear because some chicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:27 AM
1

What if I like the way I am and don't want to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:24 AM
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Do you have family, friends? Those ppl love you (yeah its not romantic love, but its still love.) I have no friends and family love doesn't count because they're pretty much required to love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:08 AM
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Well, what I'm I suppose to believe other than the truth: which is that I'm a worthless loser who doesn't deserve to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:07 AM
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then you can take the feedback and make yourself better Why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:05 AM
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Again, pushing back isn't going to accomplish anything when the majority of people aren't going to change to accommodate you. Sure, this will probably change eventually, but it won't be until long after I'm dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:02 AM
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It actually would, because were (the individual) the only person we'll ever truly 'have,' and the limited time we get to spend up in our noggins is a whole lot more tolerable if you dont hate yourself. So what? You're saying I have to just accept that nobody loves me and I'll always be alone and find some way to deal with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:01 AM
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are people telling her she's not great? I'm talking about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:56 PM
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Because even if I don't agree, the vast majority of others will and will treat me badly for it. I can't control other people's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:55 PM
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Thinking you're great when everyone else tells you otherwise is not a virtue, it's being delusional. So I accepted the truth about myself long ago. No amount of thinking I'm great will mean jack shit if no one else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:51 PM
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If you se the type of man who would judge a friend if he was a virgin you should question why that is. Because we are constantly told that male virgins are losers, lesser human beings. It's all over the media. People watch that shit and behave accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:49 PM
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You just sound arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:42 PM
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Everyone needs external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:50 PM
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does a man lose his job or lose his friends once people find out he's a virgin? His job? Maybe not. His friends? Possibility. At best, his friends will stop respecting him and treat him like a kid brother they have to babysit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:45 PM
1

If you’re a good person, women will generally be romantically involved with you. Not true. You have to be physically attractive for them to want to be involved with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:22 AM
1

Not really a genre per se. I'm currently writing a story about two fictional women pro wrestlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:36 PM
6

No. No friends. No hobbies other than TV and video games. I write, but nothing is ever going to come of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:37 AM
5

Believe it or not, the vast majority of people exercise regularly, refrain from eating like shit all the time, You must not be American. In the United States, around 70% of the population is overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:37 AM
2

If you're fat and never shower it's not going to do you much good to just work on personality Depends on who you're wanting to date and how much you're required to change. If you're okay dating women who are as fat as you are, losing weight won't accomplish much, and if you're really obese, losing weight isn't really going to make you more attractive due to all the loose skin (which can only be removed surgically and will leave behind more ugly scars) and stretch marks (which are permanent) you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:14 AM
12

Yes I am. But at the same time, I'm not too worried about it because I'll most likely be dead by 40 or 50. Either due to weight related problems or possible self-deletion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:44 AM
7

Self-improvement is really only useful if you're average or below average and want to date above average women. And even then, it's not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:37 PM
0

None of that stuff interests me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:49 PM
-4

We also know that humans are a social species, and there is nothing really stopping you from learning how to make friends except you. You've got this. Making friends as an adult is damn near impossible. Everyone your age either already has plenty of friends and don't want any more, or they're married with kids and get their social needs met that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:11 PM
0

Everybody is replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:54 PM
1

You think it's a bad thing that people aren't consuming poison?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:56 PM
–

But funny physically unattractive men get nothing unless they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:37 PM
–

It means you're ugly to them. And there are some men who no one will find attractive and I am one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:56 PM
1

Someone not being attracted to you =/= ugly. Of course it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:58 PM
1

The majority of men can't be happy single. It just isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:36 AM
2

But you can't force yourself to be attracted to people you aren't attracted to. That would just result in an unhappy sexless relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:31 AM
1

I've never told women to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:20 PM
4

I don't know. I keep asking the same question to others when they tell me to make myself attracted to women I'm not attracted to. I either get met with radio silence or some stupid shit like "Stop watching porn, you'll become attracted to her once you get to know her, turn off the lights, everyone is a ten in the dark, you're standards will lower automatically when you get desperate enough" Most people seem to believe that attraction can be controlled. It can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:12 PM
1

But lowering standards? Can you suggest a clear step by step proccess how a woman can make herelf attracted to someone she’s not attracted to? I don’t think it’s as easy to change a feeling compared to a behavior. Yet you women are constantly telling us our standards are too high and to lower them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:00 PM
7

I've seen plenty of 500 pound women with skinny, nice looking dudes. Never seen the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:57 PM
1

Sounds like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:27 PM
9

Men being able to exist outside gender norms No we're not. Men are still expected to pay for dates. Men are still expected to make more money than women. Men are still expected to be physically stronger than women. Men are still expected to have as much sex as possible and not be dateless kissless virgins. None of the rest of that shit benefits me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:40 PM
5

Secondly, feminism has done more for men by accident than red pill (or any of the manosphere) has ever done on purpose. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:32 PM
5

That's how humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:28 PM
6

Then why be one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:18 PM
8

If the shoe fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:16 PM
1

At least you admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:25 PM
1

I did nothing to deserve that kind of treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:09 PM
1

You're somehow insinuating that it's my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:44 PM
1

A very small minority of people treated me better. Most treated me like shit. And women still weren't attracted to me when I was "good". I was just a friend to them (really just acquaintances since I've never had any real friends.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:34 PM
3

Hit the nail right on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:30 PM
1

What's likable about a single mother? A single mother can never love a man the way a woman without children can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:57 AM
1

Why would anyone choose to be with a single mother over a woman with no children? What qualities could she offer that couldn't easily be found in a woman who has no kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:51 AM
1

Some did. Many others didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:14 AM
2

’m almost 40 and have never heard any women say, “I sure do hope I can have sex with an ugly guy! 😍” So you're admitting that ugly men should not even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:27 AM
2

I'm not a zoophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:19 AM
8

I always thought "she's not yours, it's just your turn" referred to women keeping their options open even though they're in a relationship. That's the way I always interpreted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:18 AM
1

It's a rational logical response based on the way humans have treated me my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:15 AM
1

Humans suck. I learned that a long time ago. I can't like or love them, I just tolerate them. But I'm still stuck with the outdated caveman software in my brain that tells me to reproduce and be part of a tribe or I'll be eaten by a tiger. Unfortunately, I can't rid myself of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:09 AM
8

Then why are women always telling men to lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:08 AM
1

why would you publicly post and upvote something so extremely unattractive? Because of the anonymity. Stop pushing the women you want away from you! The women we want will never want us even if we're good little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:04 AM
1

I sometimes see a man with his fat and/or ugly wife. And I think there’s no way he’s attracted to her. I feel exactly the same way. I can't comprehend how anyone could be attracted to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:02 AM
0

Keep him dry for months to check if he stays. No man would stay for that. And who could blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:58 AM
4

Some men have no other choice. It's either women you're not attracted to or none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:53 AM
1

Ah yes, where he “loves” his wife the same way he loves his dog: he only barely tolerates her if she’s groveling, and he is impressed with her when she doesn’t poop on the rug. That's insulting. To dogs. I'd rather have the dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:51 AM
7

You’re assuming all men are garbage. It's not my assumption. I constantly see comments from women, even on this very sub, saying that the vast majority of men are garbage and only a minority are worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:20 PM
17

As the saying goes, dating for men is like trying to find clean water in a desert, dating for women is like trying to find clean water in a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:03 PM
1

I wouldn't know. I don't really talk to people anymore unless I'm forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:26 PM
1

Doesn't matter. Girls thought I was cool and funny in school. Yet I'm still a 30-year-old dateless kissless virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:56 PM
1

Personality is largely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:19 PM
1

Most men are not passable at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:07 PM
1

They're rich. Women will overlook looks of a guy has money. Doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:44 PM
1

That's not an answer. Prove to me that a good personality can make an ugly man attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:31 PM
2

If I'm wrong, prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:19 PM
3

They're not assumptions. That's how humans operate unless they're asexual or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:17 PM
3

Am I really wrong though? If women don't like how you look, "personality" does Jack shit. At best, they'll want to be your friend, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:09 PM
3

Like there's really a difference between a 0% chance and a .00000000000001% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:58 PM
1

Don't women do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:33 PM
1

Then why do a lot of older men leave their wives for younger prettier women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:28 PM
0

people arent interchangeable Why not? Most people are basically identical apart from one or two traits. Truly unique people are rare and are usually social outcasts. why would i prefer a stranger, even if he was the most handsome and charming man ever, to a man i deeply trust and built a relationship with? Because it's a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:17 PM
1

You mean to tell me that if you met a man who had basically the same personality as your husband but was far better looking, you wouldn't trade up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:12 PM
1

What other choice do we have?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:11 PM
1

Better than being with someone you had to wear down to submission for her to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:50 AM
0

Some of us only have libido and have little or no need for partnership/love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:48 AM
3

We do behave like that. We lack the looks. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:40 AM
1

Although men would complain about this too because it’s not “primal desire”. Because it's demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:35 AM
0

Physically unattractive men who also are terrible at conversation will have even less luck. Physically unattractive men who are good at conversation are still out of luck because women won't want to talk to him is he isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:33 AM
2

Not if he's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:32 AM
0

Women often expect the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:20 AM
1

Like it or not, most men cannot be happy without a woman. That's just how it is. Studies have shown that married men are happier than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:18 AM
1

Below average men are the ones who struggle. Which is why they have to settle for whoever will have them or be single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:10 AM
1

You've just never met anyone better. But they're out there. They always are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:08 AM
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Because even with "self-improvement", most men will never be 10s and for some of us, the amount of effort it takes to get there isn't worth it. And if you're not a 10 yourself, you can't get a 10 woman unless you're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:47 PM
3

25 or 30. I think 25 is when it starts to become unlikely and by 30 it's pretty much impossible without resorting to sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:47 AM
1

Well, that certainly explains why so many men need Viagra.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:35 PM
2

Women arent attracted to children like men are. So women in their 20s are children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:32 PM
1

Nope. Serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:20 PM
2

Yeah, it's evident that they all agree with these statements. And they wonder why more and more men are becoming misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:19 PM
1

Come on man, those women need love too Of course they do. But why do they have to get it from me? many of them have amazing personality A woman's personality has never given me a boner. How am I supposed to have sex with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:18 PM
6

That's not an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:54 PM
1

Then why not date someone who also suffer your issues? Because I'm not attracted to them. You want women to overlook your appearance but you can't do that for women? No. Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:44 PM
1

Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:42 PM
1

Why would I want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:59 AM
4

Too much work and will take too long. I'm already 30 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:25 AM
4

I'm ugly, fat, bald, poor, autistic, no college degree, still live at home, no social skills, no hobbies or interests outside of TV and video games. Is that enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:21 AM
4

So you admit that below average men have no chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:19 AM
7

How can you refute what I'm saying when most average men have girlfriends and wives who love them? Because most of those couples got together before online dating existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:15 AM
11

Why do you keep saying the same shit over and over? I didn't believe you the first time. What make you think I'll believe it the five millionth time? You are wrong. I'm too fat and ugly to get any matches online. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:04 AM
14

No they don't. The data says otherwise. And I'm not average. I'm below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:43 AM
17

Doesn't work. Doesn't fix your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:42 AM
21

Only if you're Chad. The other 80% of men get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:41 AM
2

There is a point where that man with the good personality is not attractive enough for his good personality to overcome his looks. So we're doomed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:34 AM
1

Whatever you want to believe, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:31 AM
1

Also ask yourself what is most important to you. Looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:16 AM
1

I'm sure men also think this way when it comes to women, right? No. At least I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:15 AM
7

Doesn't matter. I know I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:10 AM
4

So you admit I'm right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:06 AM
1

no action is required from women to solve the male loneliness since it's wrong to force women to sleep with men. It's not that women are doing something to cause the loneliness. Like it or not, friendships with other men will never be the same as sex and romance with women. And yes, women shouldn't be forced to sleep with men they aren't attracted to, but by not doing so, there will be consequences. Why should men do something for women when we don't get anything in return? Accept the consequenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:05 AM
6

Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:00 AM
11

wehre the hell you should talk to woman? Online dating. Which is unsuccessful for 80% of men. Women don't want us to succeed. They just want us to shut up and leave women alone. We do and they get mad. It's impossible to make a woman happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:27 AM
11

Men who are over a certain age who have never had sex are often viewed with suspicion. I've seen people accuse them of being gay, rapists, pedophiles, criminally insane. Guys who are about to commit mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:26 AM
3

Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:24 AM
12

Virgins are not compared to abusers and murderers in any circumstance and conversation I don’t know what it is you’re seeing. Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:23 AM
1

There's nothing to defend. Bad people aren't going to stop doing bad things. Deal with it. Stop treating all men as monsters. I don't beat, rape and kill women. I've done my part. But that's not enough to satisfy you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:22 AM
1

How should I know? Go ask them the same question a thousand times like you did me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:02 AM
1

It doesn't matter. You've already decided I'm the bad guy. I'm tired of being blamed by women for the actions of a minority. Most men do not beat, rape and kill women. But you women blame all of us for it. We can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:01 AM
10

So men should just avoid women altogether right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:34 PM
0

I never said that. Your bias against men is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:31 PM
2

It's not sexism. It's the truth. Men and women have nothing in common and no reason to interact outside of sex and romance. What can women offer men that they can't get from their own gender and vice versa with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:27 PM
1

I did answer. But since you apparently didn't see it, I'll say it again. Nothing. There. Now will you get off this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:24 PM
22

Exactly. Personality doesn't make up for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:19 PM
3

What does the bitter and vindictive guy with anger issues offer? Do just love repeating yourself or something? What are you expecting by doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:08 PM
2

Most Incels don't really want sex. It doesn't matter. Sex, romantic love, platonic love, even basic decency from women is unattainable for them. So they should just remove women from their lives and look to other men for comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:20 PM
7

So, you refuse to do anything for men, but expect men to do for you? Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:19 PM
9

Paying for it is our only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:17 PM
2

Lying to myself isn't going to help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:03 PM
4

No they're not. They're awesome. Women and men have nothing in common. Outside of sex and romance, men usually interact with other men and women usually interact with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:58 PM
6

No one says this. Yes they do. Men confuse "i won't have sex with you to solve your loneliness" with "i don't care about men's problems." Feminists outright say they don't care about men's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:58 PM
1

Women have told me this my whole life. I didn't come to this conclusion myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:56 PM
3

Well, wish in one hand, shit in the other one. Let me know which hand gets filled first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:24 PM
9

I see it constantly. "Women don't need men" "Men are all violent, abusive rapists" "We don't care about men's problems. Men created their problems, they can solve them themselves" Not just on here, but on many female orientated subs. We as men need to accept that we're on our own. Remove women from your life they way they do with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:22 PM
1

Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:20 PM
3

But I don't think friends and family would entirely solve it because incels want to feel romantically attractive. Not everyone gets to have sex and romance. It is what it is. All we can do is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:19 PM
2

No. I'm too ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:19 PM
9

Women should help in the same way men should help other men They won't. Women have nothing but contempt for men. I see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:53 PM
12

Men need to support other men. That's how we fix it. Women aren't going to do shit for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:38 PM
1

To help other people and reduce human suffering. A lot of humans deserve to suffer and you can't end all suffering in the world. To not feel hopeless in the face of injustice. You wasting time isn't going to fix the problems in society. To socialize with like-minded individuals. You can do that anywhere. To be useful. I don't like being used. I don't want to be slaves for people who couldn't care less about me. To learn new skills. Take a class. To make good use of the time I have. I'd rather pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:32 PM
1

Most guys just assume that something has to be looks. Because it is. Looks are the only thing that would make me put up with a woman. I'm sure a lot of women are the same way (though with lots of money included.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:26 PM
2

Then get off the sub. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:25 PM
2

Everyone outside the 20% is settling because they can't do any better. Only the top 20% get the partners they truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:24 PM
3

“You’re not exactly revolting but the idea that anyone could find you romantically attractive is hilarious.” LOL Couldn't have said it better myself. "There's someone out there who'll find you attractive...just not me or any women I can think of."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:19 PM
5

Adults aren't really any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:14 PM
7

Why act any other way when it's not going to benefit us? I've never said they're missing out on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:50 PM
5

I'm saying even if we did have "good" personalities, women still wouldn't be attracted to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:33 PM
2

And of course, many single moms would be thrilled to co-parent with a guy who is gainfully-employed, detailed oriented, and boasts a nice, clean slate for a romantic past. So my only option is to get a woman a green card or be a single mother's live-in babysitter. Fuck that. I'm not taking care of someone else's kids. I don't even want kids myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:36 PM
6

And yet in real life it’s so rare seeing that? Exactly. Outside of celebrities and fictional characters, this almost never happens. Good looking men date good looking women. Average men date average women. Ugly men, if they can get a date at all, date ugly women. The majority of couples are looksmatched. The few who aren't is usually either for money, or the couples have been together for a long time, were looksmatched at the beginning, but one person aged badly or got fat while the other didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:34 PM
5

They are cruel. And the women on here are all saints lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:30 PM
6

But personality compensates No it doesn't. It'll just make women put you in the friendzone. They still won't want to date or fuck us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:29 PM
2

Why would anyone who has a full time job want to do even more work that they don't even get paid for?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:28 PM
3

There's nothing we can offer because women won't want us regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:25 PM
6

I'm an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:09 PM
2

Cause your at the bottom and you will have to work your way out of that, its like work experience, cause unless your lucky your going to have to start at a job you dont want to work at and build your resume. People aren't going to call me a rapist, a human trafficker, a child molester etc. for working a minimum wage job.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:18 AM
1

I don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:15 AM
6

It's peak delusion to think that people care about your sex life. Humans are biologically wired to hate and fear those who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:15 AM
13

Honestly, people need to start warning young men what would happen if they never lost their virginity That's not going to help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:10 AM
15

As a woman who prefers a virgin over a man whore That's not saying much. That's like saying "I'd prefer a cow shit sandwich over a horse shit sandwich". They're both still shit. A man who is a virgin by choice, regardless of age is extremely attractive because it shows a certain level of discipline. Most male virgins are not virgins by choice. And even if they were, most people would still look down on him unless he was asexual or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:07 AM
4

Again, why respond if there is no solution. Just say "it's over" and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:03 AM
2

tbh youre already at the bottom of the totem pole, most options older virgins have are going to bring passionless sex cause you are new to it and the only women who more likely to accept it are low value women looking for stability. So it's a lose-lose situation no matter what I do. I pay for sex, women won't want me. I don't pay for sex and remain a virgin, women still won't want me. So why bother doing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:59 PM
1

Eventually the conversation about previous partners will come up. What am I supposed to do? Lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:56 PM
7

There's no real solution to be had. Then why bother responding? To boost your ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:55 PM
1

I would just lose it to a sex worker at that point and just not say anything. Easy for you to say. The truth always comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:44 PM
3

Exactly. They hate us no matter what we do. We don't have sex, we're bad. We pay for sex, we're bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:43 PM
2

How am I supposed to "overcome" it? You can't overcome a condition you're born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:35 PM
2

But you'll have your foot in the door, and you wont be completely in the dark How? You don't become good at driving a car by doing it once. You have to do it continuously to get good at it. It took me a long time to get good at driving, I only got my driver's license a year ago right before I turned 29. Having sex with a sex worker once isn't going to make you good enough in bed to please a woman who has decades more experience than you. So you have to keep getting more hookers (since you're sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:34 PM
3

So you're saying it's our fault and we deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:26 PM
2

No, but they call them gay, pedophiles, not real men. They shun them socially. Won't befriend them, won't do anything for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:23 PM
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Women who are still virgins/ single into their thirties get called "cat ladies" or "old maids" Wrong. Women who don't get married or have kids are called "cat ladies" and "old maids". Nothing to do with virginity. Far fewer women are virgins at that age than men, and society doesn't treat them nearly as badly as virgin men. For women, it's okay to not have sex, but she better not be single. For men, it's okay to be single, but he better be having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:20 PM
24

I think nowadays you still have some leeway into your early twenties. But I'd say if you make it to 25 (and especially 30) without having your cherry popped, it's game over for you unless you pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:18 PM
7

If women not picking you is the bad thing, then yes, something within your control is the issue. No. The bad thing is what men do you when they find out you've never had any romantic/sexual experience. If you talk to women the way you speak to me here, that could likely be the reason. I don't talk to women anymore unless I have to at work. Women don't want men who look like me talking to them so I don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:16 PM
7

I said, "everyone doesn't make fun". Because everyone doesn't. You're not a 30-year-old male virgin. You don't know any 30-year-old male virgins. So you have no right to act like you know how people treat us better than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:48 PM
5

"I've never seen it, so it doesn't happen." We've had this conversation many times. You don't believe a word I say, I don't believe a word you say. So let's just stop now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:31 PM
5

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:30 PM
3

The reward isn't worth it. How is wasting lots of money on passionless sex with a woman who hates me rewarding? Sure, I'll no longer be a virgin, but people still won't like or respect me. I still won't be genuinely desired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:29 PM
10

She won’t, because she is not actively scanning for signs of virginity It doesn't matter if she's scanning or not. The truth always comes out. And I'm not just talking about potential sex partners. Guy friends will also think you're abnormal and not want to be around you if they know you're a virgin, if not outright bully you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:28 PM
11

I beg to differ. You're wasting your time with her. I've had this discussion with her many times. In her eyes, everything bad that happens to us is our fault. No one makes fun of virgins, we create those fantasies in our heads, or we hang out with the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:26 PM
12

Why do you listen to someone who is making fun of you? Because everyone makes fun of virgins and you can't ignore everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:50 PM
3

What the hell's a sex surrogate? I doubt something like that even exists where I am. And paying for sex doesn't solve the problem of not being wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:50 PM
2

The travel costs even more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:47 PM
8

If that were the case, it'd have happened by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:46 PM
7

Thinking it's weird is bad enough. No one wants to be around weird people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:42 PM
4

For $300, the woman is either super ugly, has STDs, is an undercover cop or transgender. The ones in my area cost upwards of $500 and the ones who are actually attractive are in the thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:30 PM
13

Then why do they make fun of virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:28 PM
11

It's like a rich person telling a poor person "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:04 PM
6

Unfortunately I probably wouldn't. I don't lie, even in situations where I probably should. Lying would just make things worse. Most people aren't good liars and the truth always comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:00 PM
6

How that any different than going out with your girlfriends? Or guy friends hanging out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:56 PM
3

I can't afford to pay for it, don't want to risk getting arrested or catching STDs, I'd never enjoy sex with a woman who doesn't want me and I'd be viewed even lower by society if I resorted to paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 PM
11

Bullshit. Anyone who's around you long enough will find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:52 PM
27

Say “I’m uncomfortable discussing this, Dead giveaway that you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:51 PM
2

I never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:47 PM
22

So basically "shut up and deal with it".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:47 PM
8

I don't tell people in real life. I'm talking about the assholes on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:46 PM
3

You apparently missed the part where I said I can't afford it. If I can't afford to travel to Nevada, how could I afford to travel to Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:44 PM
18

Exactly. We're losers if we pay for sex and losers if we don't. Women and society will hate us no matter what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:41 PM
5

That change won't happen for a long time. Probably not until long after we're all dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:39 PM
5

I'm American. It's not legal or acceptable here (it's legal in some parts of Nevada, but that's it). And I can't afford to travel to a place where it is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:36 PM
19

Like just Go clap some cheeks and get it out ur system, fuck. If that were an option, we wouldn't be in our current predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:32 PM
20

So what are we supposed to do about it? You can't get sex without experience, can't get experience without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:26 PM
19

And everyone will still think less of you for doing it. "You cheated". "You took the easy way". "All sex workers are victims of human trafficking." "You paid a woman to rape her". And so on and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:22 PM
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I know. I bring this up constantly all the time and every time people on here tell me it's not true, that I'm making stuff up and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:01 PM
1

When you put yourselves in women’s shoes, try to think of their perspective. Lol. That's hilarious. People can't understand what they haven't experienced themselves. Women don't know what it's like to be a man, so their opinions on men are worthless. They just make stuff up to make themselves feel good. Women's perspective boils down to one thing "Men bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:29 PM
5

Others who are already physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:20 PM
1

Ableism I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:07 PM
4

"It worked for me, so it'll work for everyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:05 PM
9

Changing your personality won't make women want to fuck you if you're not good looking enough. It'll just make them want to be friends with you. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:43 PM
1

Guess I'm out of luck then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:13 AM
1

What if that one woman lives in a part of the world you'll never visit? Or is too old/young for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:04 AM
0

Women lie about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 AM
1

This is the essence of "be yourself". And if "yourself" is not attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 AM
1

Yes. Still doesn't stop me from wanting to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:53 AM
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What about below average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:35 PM
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The point is that women are attracted to those nonphysical traits, and most of them you can be developed and improved with practice. But it won't make you more attractive if you don't already have the looks. At best, it'll just result in more women putting you in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:24 PM
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Nah, there are tons of average looking guys who punch well above their weight because of their exceptional charisma, humor, confidence, and assertiveness. They are a small minority. Most average men end up with average (or below average) women. Most couples are looksmatched and on the rare occasions men are able to date above their league, it's because his famous and/or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:09 PM
5

What is "actual partnership" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:00 PM
2

What about ugly women who get used by men? Ugly women are mostly just ignored by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:17 PM
1

He could have just left or broken up, we weren’t living together or had any finances tangled up. There you go. Talking about yourself again. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the person I originally responded to, who has still not responded back. I’m not sure why you feel the need to defend men you’ve never even met or know exist Because I don't like seeing ugly men get stepped on and used by women. If the woman is so high and mighty and thinks she's doing him a favor by being with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:11 PM
2

But I have the same experience as the other person All you know is that the guy cheated. You don't know why he cheated on the other woman. You just fill in the blanks and assume the worst because it's a man and "men bad". The way she's writing clearly demonstrates that she views herself as above him. Like he should be happy that any woman dare give him a chance. She sounds like a real catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:52 PM
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Sounds like this was a "give an ugly guy I'm not attracted to a chance" situation where she never wanted him to begin with. If that's the case, who can blame him? The fact that he cheated with a less attractive woman is also telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:02 PM
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The fact that you aren't denying it is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:01 PM
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They way you're talking about him makes it clear that you never liked him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:17 PM
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He probably realized you never actually liked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:51 PM
1

So either way they don't get punished and I'm supposed to just live with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:48 PM
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Doesn't sound like you ever liked him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:16 PM
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So I'm supposed to just accept that they got off scot-free and get to live happy lives while I suffer? Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:52 PM
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But they got away with treating me badly. I can't deal with that. I can't deal with the fact that I didn't beat the everloving shit out of them like I should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:44 PM
1

See. Redefining things. IT'S NOT A GODDAMN REDEFINITION. It's the original definition that dumbasses have warped over the years to mean something else entirely. Tell me what you think left and right wing means if you're so much more informed than I am. I asked you once before and you didn't do it. I love that you didnt bother addressing when I mentioned how youre similar to the right. Say specifically how I'm similar to right wingers and I'll gladly rebut. I guess you really dont want to address…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:43 PM
1

Politics isn’t just about economics and anyone who is actually into politics knows this. Of course it isn't just about economics, but economics is the main driver. If you're a capitalist, you can't be left wing. If you're a socialist or communist, you can't be right wing. I don't qualify as right wing outside of economics either. I'm pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-civil rights, pro-separation of church and state, and in favor of at least some restrictions on guns. About the only area I agree with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:31 PM
1

See. You had to redefine stuff to pretend you broke the mold. You're the one redefining things to fit your agenda. I cannot be right wing no matter how much you wish it to be true. What's your definition of a "leftist" then? Someone who worships the ground women walk on and never says anything bad about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:22 PM
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No one on the left would say that about him. Ah, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. I'm a socialist, so by definition, I am a leftist whether you agree with it or not. Left and right on the political spectrum refers to ones views on economic policy. Those on the left are in favor of socialism or communism while those on the right favor capitalism. I can feel bad for the guy while still not supporting his actions. A lot of people feel the same about Chris Benoit (look him up if you don't know.) Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:15 PM
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No I can't. The only way I'll get over it is to get revenge. I can't handle the fact that they treated me the way they did and faced no consequences for it while I suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:11 PM
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So you're comparing me to a toddler for being upset that women I'm attracted to aren't attracted to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:47 PM
3

I've never visited an incel forum in my life. And while I do somewhat sympathize with Elliot Rodger, I absolutely do not condone his actions. And I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:46 PM
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Democrats are more likely to be single and childless while Republicans are more likely to be paired up and having kids. Democrats are not left wing. They are less extreme right wingers than Republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:42 PM
1

Of course I'm going to be upset that women I'm attracted to aren't attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:34 PM
1

Attraction can't be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:32 PM
1

That's what it'd be like for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:29 PM
2

Who wants a sexless relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:26 PM
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But these guys act like they got abused and raped Some of us actually were. But you don't care about that because "we deserved it" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:23 PM
1

Which is why I don't see the point in being friends with women when they don't offer anything that a guy friend doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:16 PM
1

Because they have nothing to provide except money because they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:15 PM
5

I'm not right wing and I pretty much fit the definition of an incel, even though I refuse to identify as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:02 PM
3

Everything's tiny when you're the size of the Grand Canyon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:58 PM
2

And here's something for you too🖕
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:55 PM
1

I don't plan to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:53 PM
1

Again, I don't give a fuck about relationships. Relationships are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:49 PM
1

I don't think I ever maintained a physical attraction to anyone I thought was hot, but couldn't hold an enjoyable conversation with. Why? Sex doesn't require talking. I have developed a physical attraction to way more people after getting to know them and enjoying their company. Never happened to me. At best, I like their personality, but still could never get hard for them or desire them to even touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:48 PM
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A "looking for fun" date still involves talking to the woman and having friendly banter talking about trips, life, work, etc. Why would I care about any of that shit? I just want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:42 PM
3

And that's somehow a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:36 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with me. I like the way I am. I don't want to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:36 PM
2

which is pretty damping for so-called "lonely" people How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:35 PM
3

Plenty of people suck as a person and still have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:33 PM
1

And that problem is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:29 PM
1

If you don't like it, you're free to leave the sub at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:25 PM
1

people are not cars. I know. Cars are actually useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:12 PM
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They usually smell like that when they haven't cleaned themselves well, lol. And any woman who'd be willing to let me smash probably isn't clean down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:32 PM
1

Anything to make this my fault. And you refuse to answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:20 PM
2

If you're already at zero, what difference does -100 make?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:14 PM
2

Now imagine being ugly and trying to approach a woman for sex, yet you don’t even know how to strike up friendly conversation. Being ugly and knowing how to talk to women still won't get you any results because women will never see ugly men as more than a friend. So why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:09 PM
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Sorry. It is what it is. When women offer something that men cannot that isn't sex, maybe I'll consider having them in my life. Until then, I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:07 PM
0

Like you don’t want to be touched by anyone. I don't like when women I'm not attracted to or men touch me. Attractive women touching me I can handle. Or is it just your libido is intact but you don’t actually want sex? I'm beginning to think this might be the problem. I mainly want sex for status reasons. I mean, I do want to know what titties and ass feel like, but vaginas kind of gross me out (and before you accuse me of being gay, I don't like dicks either.) especially when they're all wet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:06 PM
2

you ever felt any desire that goes beyond short-term physical, or beyond your genetic legacy? I don't know what you mean by "genetic legacy". If you mean wanting children, not really. As for "short term physical", I guess not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:00 PM
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Because I don't want a relationship. I just want sex. And your ability to obtain casual sex is based almost entirely on your physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:58 PM
2

Unfortunately yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:49 PM
0

So because I'm a practical person, that somehow means I lack personal responsibility? I have a Toyota Corolla. Why would I want another Toyota Corolla that's exactly the same as the one I have, only that it's a different color?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:48 PM
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I don't know about trauma. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's part of my autism. But that wouldn't explain why I'm fine with women I'm attracted to touching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:47 PM
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If they offered something else, maybe we wouldn't see them that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:45 PM
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Did you have a father who hugged you, wrestled with you, played football with you? Yeah, and I hated it. I also hate when my grandmother touches me. Her wrinkly old skin and her arthritic fingers. I feel extremely uncomfortable, almost like I'm being molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:42 PM
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If a guy can't easily talk to a woman platonically then he needs to work on that first. It's a prerequisite. Why? What can women friends offer that male friends can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:35 PM
1

Few people are like you, aka only attracted to hot people These were your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:16 PM
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Touch is my love language. I don't get this. I hate when men or women I'm not attracted to touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:15 PM
1

If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:11 PM
3

It's what life has taught me. "It's not who you are underneath. It's what you do that defines you." No one other than my mother, my grandmother and one cousin have ever valued me for "who I am". I've seen what people are like. "Who they are" isn't even remotely loveable or even likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:08 PM
1

Guess I'll have to just accept that I'll never understand it and never experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:05 PM
2

People can form genuine connections outside of what someone can ‘offer’ them Good for them. That's never been the case for me. Humans have made it clear to me since I was born that they hate me, so what other reason should I have to tolerate them other than it benefits me in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:03 PM
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If you can get this ‘benefit’ from male friends, you should also be able to get that from women if you see women as people. If I already got it from male friends, why would I need to get it from women? I can't get sex from men because I'm not sexually attracted to men. Sex is the only thing women can offer me that men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:52 PM
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Bonds and connections are not just about what people offer you. Of course they are. Why would you want to be in a relationship with someone when it doesn't benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:47 PM
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It depends on if men see sex as the only thing a woman is good for. What else can they do for me that other men can't? I already have a Toyota Corolla. Why would I want another one that's the same in every way except it's a different color? f you just have a sex drive and find women attractive but can still interact with them and see them as people outside of sex, there’s nothing wrong I do see them as people. They're just people I want nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:36 PM
4

A world where we only blame the small group of elites with real power? Yes. Because they are the real enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:30 PM
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No I'm not trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:22 PM
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Of course you have no rebuttal so you resort to taking shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:15 PM
3

Because that's what women do. They can't stand it when men find out what they're really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:11 PM
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The average woman is hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:04 PM
1

If by "working out" you mean "they begrudgingly tolerate each other and have sex once a year out of obligation while dreaming about the hot people they really want."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:56 PM
5

This is such BS lol. It's usually feminists saying how "feminism is for men too". People like exposed that saying for being BS. Exactly. Feminists do not and never will care about men or the issues they face. I realized that a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:54 PM
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I don't count on men as allies until they've already shown that they see me as an equal. So men can only see women as equals if they don't want to fuck them? "Men sexuality bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:52 PM
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No it won't. If she doesn't find you physically attractive, you have no chance. At best, she'll see you as a friend. You're a rare outlier. Most women aren't like you and you said those "relationships" didn't work out. We've been over this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:47 PM
1

Yep. I have these arguments constantly with people on here, who tell me I'm wrong, it doesn't happen, it's all in my head, etc. They're all full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:39 PM
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I'm too smart for that feel good bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:33 PM
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So you meet a girl where YOUR balance matches what works with HER balance. They don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:24 PM
2

People on here will lie to you and tell you this doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:07 PM
0

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You're a woman, so of course you'd say that. You have a bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:20 PM
1

Most people aren’t only attracted to a tiny amount of extremely attractive individuals. They are. They're just forced to settle for those "in their league" because the top people don't want them. Only the best looking men and women get the partners they truly want. Everyone else gets the scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:59 PM
1

Ignoring the real point and just zeroing in on what you want to hear. There's no point in talking to you. I won't be making that mistake again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:57 PM
1

They can get away with it long enough to get what they want. That's what matters. Ugly guys can't get away with it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:54 PM
1

It's not delusion. It's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:53 PM
1

They can long enough to fuck at least a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:31 PM
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Money's the only reason any woman would give them the time of day. After a while, I guess the women got sick of them and took a good chunk of that money for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:26 PM
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So what am I supposed to do? Be fake just so other people's feelings don't get hurt? I don't care about other people. I care about me. That's just who I am. I can't change it. I was born that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:21 AM
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Women weren't attracted to me when I had a good personality. Women aren't attracted to me now that I have a bad personality. Nothing changed in that regard and I'm less unhappy than I was before. Being an asshole is much more natural and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:16 AM
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Sounds like common sense. Why do something that doesn't benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:08 AM
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"Not offending women", won't make you attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:06 AM
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90% of the dudes who struggle in this sub do so because of their terrible personalities. Then explain to me why I was constantly made fun of by girls for my looks when I was in school. I didn't have a bad personality back then, that came later as a result of being treated like crap for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:02 AM
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Ok explain why Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates' wives left them. They're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:01 AM
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Because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:01 AM
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A relationship isn't sex 24/7/365. No, but it is a very important part and is what separates a relationship from a friendship. I don't want a relationship. Most women are annoying and boring. I just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:54 AM
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most people in this planet are in relationships. That doesn't mean they're attracted to each other. Most people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:51 AM
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Because being nice doesn't benefit me. Women will never be sexually attracted to me no matter what I do, so why bother being a good little boy just so they don't get their fee-fees hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:46 AM
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It would make tolerating your presence easier. Still wouldn't make the pussy wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:42 AM
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They are not coercing me to do it. Rather, they are not shy commenting about it when the topic is brought up. If they truly thought highly of you, they wouldn't be pushing you to lose it. They'd tell you it's okay to be a virgin or just not mention it at all. Your friends aren't actually your friends. They're bullies in disguise. Having sex as an adult is no different from smoking or drinking. So what if you don't drink or smoke? Does that make you less of an adult? In most people's eyes, yes. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:13 AM
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Congratulations. It's not possible for me. I can't give up food that tastes good and eat tasteless slop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:01 AM
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Most people don’t advertise their sexual experience, but you have average virgins who people don’t even know are virgins, who have good lives and friends. Prove it. Do you not treat other virgins with decency? I don't know any. Because almost no one my age is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:58 AM
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They won't. There, you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:53 AM
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If you only find hot, young and perfect breasts touchable, then you probably won’t ever touch them. Well, yeah. Who wants to touch saggy, wrinkly Grandma titties? I think Nikolas Tesla, Immanuel Kant and Newton didn’t have problems with people respecting them, despite dying virgins. Oh, so I only need to be a world-famous person in order for people to treat me with basic decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:51 AM
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because they are upfront pushing me to get laid You just proved my point. People can't simply leave us virgins alone. If they're not making fun of us for it, they're trying to push us into losing it. Which means they don't respect you as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:49 AM
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Guess that means I should give up then. Accept that I'll never know what ass and titties feel like. Accept that I'll never be a real man and no one will ever like or respect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:42 AM
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I don't have enough money, don't want to risk getting arrested or catching an STD. And I doubt I'd enjoy the sex knowing that the woman doesn't actually want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:37 AM
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40-year-old virgin, The Waterboy, Ready to Rumble, Transformers. That's just a few off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:26 AM
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Below average, average and “normal” people get married and have kids all the time. I'm not attracted to below average or average women. I'd require a bottle of Viagra and a blindfold in order to have sex with one. Maybe that's why so many men need Viagra, their wives are ugly and they can't get it up otherwise. If you are only attracted to hot young women and they haven’t ever been attracted to you back, then that’s probably a dream denied. Like I said, I guess I'll have to resort to paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:25 AM
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Watch literally any movie or TV show ever made that has a character over 17 who is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:23 AM
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Everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:17 AM
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I'm not and never will be desirable. And I'll never have what normal people have. Sex with hot young women in their prime. Marriage. Kids. I'll just have to give in and pay for sex. It's the only way I'll get to have sex with women I'm attracted to. It's been made clear on here that women don't like men who pay for sex, but I guess I should stop caring about that since a real woman will never want me anyway so I might as well just do what's necessary even if others don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:12 AM
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Quite a few knows I am a virgin and I am not treated any differently. They probably talk shit about you behind your back. And sooner or later that behavior will leak out in face-to-face interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:09 AM
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I'm confused, then what is the point of bemoaning being a virgin until your late years Because I want to know what ass and titties feel like and I want other men to not make fun of me for being a virgin. I want male friends. Not female ones. I've never wanted to get married or have a long term relationship. I want to know what it's like to be a real man and real men aren't virgins. I've never met a single woman that I've enjoyed being around. Not even the nice one. Women don't share my interests…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:08 AM
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you still have to know how to talk to women Talking to women isn't fun. Women and men don't have anything in common. And women complain about everything. I certainly don't want to live with one. I live with two women. It's horrible. That's 8hrs a day, you typically have another 16 plus the 24 on the weekends to pursue whatever else Apparently you missed the part where I said I work 12 hours a day and I work every weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:36 AM
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No one likes virgins. Not even as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:34 AM
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So I'll just give up then. Not worth putting up with someone else's bastard kids just for some pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:33 AM
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"Settle for washed up single mothers" is what I'm hearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:16 AM
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So you're saying men who have no experience by a certain age should just give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:34 PM
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People pay attention to things. If you're friends with someone long enough, the topic of sex and relationships will come up eventually. Even if you try and dodge it, they'll know something is up. They'll notice how you avoid talking about relationships and sex, notice how you never go on dates or bring women home. They'll wonder why you're 40 and still not married. More and more of these clues pop out and then they ask the dreaded question: are you a virgin? Or worse: are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:26 PM
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But what's funny is the job my friend I was telling about had was being a transporter for a hospital. I think they were paying him $18-19 but again he was in DC which is HCOL. He also had the same idea as you about either MRI or something like radiology technician I can't remember, but then he got fired eventually then went on to be a security guard for like around $21/h. So, what. Are you trying to talk me out of it or something? I get where you're coming from tho cause no one really enjoys lab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:25 PM
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Because people pay attention to things. The topic of sex and relationships will come up eventually. Even if you try and dodge it, they'll know something is up. They'll notice how you avoid talking about relationships and sex, notice how you never go on dates or bring women home. They'll wonder why you're 40 and still not married. More and more of these clues pop out and then they ask the dreaded question: are you a virgin? Or worse: are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:23 PM
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Idk what you want to do career wise I'd like to be a Hollywood screenwriter and actor. But that's never going to happen. There's no other career that I would enjoy doing. But I'm far beyond the age where I can afford to be a starving artist, so I'll have to just pick what pays and deal with it. Right now, I'm leaning towards MRI tech. I work at a hospital as a transporter for patients. I hate the job, I hate the pay, but I like the schedule (it's 12 hour shifts, but I only work 3 days a week) so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:33 PM
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What did you hope to accomplish by posting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:28 PM
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They will find out. The truth always comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:49 PM
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You can probably find a roommate to live with to help expenses. I can't even afford to split rent with someone. I only make $15 an hour. Plus I can't mentally handle living with another person. I can barely tolerate my mother and my granddaughter. You probably do have a lot of muscle, but if it's all surrounded by fat then you aren't even going to be able to tell its there. No I don't. My arms are just bone and fat. Without the fat, my biceps would only be about 12-13 inches. I'm not your averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:49 PM
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Wouldn't know. I'm 6'1" and I've never been on a single date and most couples under 40 meet on dating apps now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:09 PM
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Btw what amount of self improvement do you need thats gonna take another decade in order to have sex? Maybe a decade is a bit of an exaggeration, but it'll take at least 5 years. The bare minimum I'll have to do to be attractive to women is: Lose 150 pounds. Without crash diets that'll take a minimum of 2-5 years. Gain at least 20 pounds of muscle. I'm all fat, no muscle mass. Without steroids, it'll take an additional few years to gain a good amount of muscle. Get a job that pays a living wage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:07 PM
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Big whoop. You lost it at 19. I'm almost 30. People know when you fake it. Especially 30 year old women who are better at sensing BS than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:28 PM
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First time I stick my p in a v was at 26 with a woman I've known and worked with maybe a year prior to that point. After we did it she had no clue that was my first time as I didn't tell her, and we were fwbs that had sex frequently after that. You must be an expert liar then. And while 26 is definitely a later age than average, it's still somewhat forgivable. I'm almost 30 and with the amount of "self improvement" I'd have to do to be worthy of most women's attention, it'll take until I'm 35-40…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:27 PM
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No adult has said anything about your virginity Because no one other than my family and my former therapist knows I'm a virgin. That's the only reason no one has said anything. If they found out, they would definitely make fun of me for it. At best, they'd talk about me behind my back, act with fake compassion to my face and try to set me up with ugly fat women so I can "get it over with."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:13 PM
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I don't believe anything without proof. Humans lie all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:08 PM
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So no adult has actually treated you that way? Only because they don't know. Adults don’t give a shit about some randos virginity. I don't believe you. Humans are biologically programmed to hate and fear those who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:03 PM
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I was treated that way althoughout middle and high school. Why should I believe adults would be any different? Especially looking at how adult male virgins are portrayed in movies and TV shows, which are written by adults. People watch these shows and movies and begin to believe it themselves and treat virgins accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:46 PM
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They'll eventually figure it out if they hang around you long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:44 PM
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I've never been in a relationship and it's because of my looks. The girls themselves told me so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:44 PM
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I never said anything about rape. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:29 PM
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It's not a lie. I've experienced it myself. Being ignored isn't much better. No one likes you or wants to be friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:29 PM
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How you act has little to do with how attractive you are to women. That's determined by your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:27 PM
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Yep. I've known since middle school that I'm undesirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:26 PM
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Won't fix the fact that male virgins are hated and treated like garbage by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:24 PM
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Therapy doesn't make men not attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:23 PM
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Doesn't matter. Female virgins aren't mistreated the same way male virgins are. A man can still have all that, but when it's discovered he's never been laid, all that goodwill goes out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:00 PM
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Easy to say for someone who's had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:15 PM
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Men put way too much value on sex. You're not a man. You can't understand how important it is for social acceptance that a man not be a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:13 PM
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the traits we find attractive in the opposite sex are fairly universal across cultures and has been shaped by evolutionary biology and sexual selection Exactly. Men like youthful faces, large breasts, slim waist, wide hips. Women like tall men with full head of hair, square jawline, muscles, low body fat, wide shoulders, slim waist. There are rare outliers who prefer other traits and people without these traits have to settle for each other because that drive to reproduce is so overwhelming, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:12 PM
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Most men under 6ft can't get any matches on online dating for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:09 PM
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Give me irrefutable evidence that porn and social media makes men not attracted to objectively ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:56 PM
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Prove it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:50 PM
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Plenty of physically attractive people let themselves go after getting married, and continue to have sex throughout. I'd get a divorce were I in that situation. You need to also consider that the emotional part is a very important factor. Emotional. Lol. Sounds like fairy tale nonsense. You need to consider the overall attractiveness. That includes physical, emotional, financial e.t.c. If you ever played a MMO, it would be like different stats. The median of your stats is your overall level, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:26 PM
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Ah, porn and social media. Same old copout.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:20 PM
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There's many notable historical virgins who led more meaningful lives than some randos who had sex. A very small minority. Most people can't and won't be able to tolerate living like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:17 PM
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Easy for someone who's had sex to say. Men's entire reputation, the amount of friends he has and so on depend on him not being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:13 PM
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Because it literally hurts women to tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:12 PM
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Lol. If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:03 PM
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You don’t know their internal states. So the big smiles while they're getting railed aren't a dead giveaway?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:00 PM
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You’re accepting the lie that biology dictates purpose That's not a lie. That's science. Life has no purpose. We're born, we die. That's it. People created fake religions to believe in because they can't handle this truth. You’re choosing misery over true struggle; you’re taking the easy path by telling yourself you’re just more honest when the reality is you’re just afraid. I've tried to create "purpose". It hasn't worked. I'm not happy. I haven't been happy in over 20 years. People who have lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:25 PM
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I'm not choosing to believe a comforting lie. I'm not like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:15 PM
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Doesn't matter. If you can't reproduce, you're worthless and life isn't worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:02 PM
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Ah, classism I see. Would you say that poor women also shouldn't reproduce, or does this apply only to men? Do you really believe things would be better if only the rich were allowed to have children? Without the poor, who's going to work for the rich to keep them wealthy? Sure, most jobs will be automated soon, but we're not quite there yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:02 PM
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Sex isn’t the best experience life has to offer. Having sex and passing on our genes is literally our only purpose in life. Has been since the beginning of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:16 PM
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I'm a low status man (ugly, fat, bald, poor, autistic) and I've never drank alcohol, smoked or done any illegal substances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:01 PM
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Yes I was. Acknowledging it doesn't change what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:31 PM
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Well, I didn't. And I hate myself for letting them treat me that way and get away with it. I dream of meeting them again so I do to them what I should have done back then. But that's not going to happen. So I'm stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:17 PM
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Believing you have value when everyone else clearly disagrees isn't some virtue. It's being delusional. Can you even name one person who is disliked by everyone but still loves themselves and is happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:35 PM
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No, I didn't report it. You're probably from a nice middle class city, possibly not in America. I'm from a small town in the South. Bullying is not only often ignored by school authorities, but encouraged. People in the South are mostly conservative and conservatives love bullies. Especially when those bullies are often relatives or star sports players. Reporting wouldn't have done any good and would have likely made things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:35 PM
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I'll believe I'm worthy when I'm good looking, rich and loved by everyone. Not a moment before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:32 PM
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Are you not that old? I'm almost 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:12 PM
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Everyone is attractive Feel-good bullshit. Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:09 PM
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You exist, so you matter, and you have worth. No one has worth just for existing. That's a lie people tell losers to stop them from self-deleting so they can keep taking from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:07 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:56 PM
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More confirmation that I'm worthless I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:41 PM
1

I can complain all I want. If you don't like it, tough shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:58 PM
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I'll probably be dead by 40, so I'm not too worried about it. If by some miracle I live to see old age, I'll worry about it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:32 AM
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Probably yeah. If not outright divorce her. I have no interest in LTRs anyway, so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:22 AM
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Here we go again. Porn is the fault of every man not being attracted to ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:06 AM
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Because most single women are single by choice. Most single men are not. And this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:43 PM
2

Okay. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:59 PM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:59 PM
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The same could be said for women with movies, TV and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:49 PM
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If she doesn't look a certain way, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:14 PM
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Ever since middle school I've been made fun of for not having any girlfriends, called homophobic slurs, had guys touch me inappropriately (my butt or rubbing up against me like they're humping me.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:56 PM
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skin is still skin There's a difference between the skin of young people and the skin of old people. I absolutely can't stand for my grandmother to touch me. I don't like the way her skin feels and every time she tries to hug me, I feel like I'm being molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:31 PM
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Because people who are 600 pounds with 3 teeth are objectively unattractive. Yet I see more than a few who have a partner. Why? Are they just that desperate for sex? Are they in a sexless relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:28 PM
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Attraction isn't only physical. For me, it is. You can't fathom that because you disgust yourself And women have made it clear to me since I was in school that they're repulsed by me too. So it isn't just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:27 PM
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No judgment from me. Lol, that's a first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:23 PM
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But I dunno how to describe it, but when you’re horny and in the mood, even gross stuff can be pretty hot. You’re already covered in bodily fluids and sex smells. You learn to wallow and laugh. Maybe sex isn't for me then. If only people didn't hate and mistreat virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:22 PM
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But you can't deny that there are some people who almost no one is attracted to and some who almost everyone is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:21 PM
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So you must provide a lot if you just want casual sex or pay for sex. But I wouldn't recommand you to do that at all So what should I do? Just be a virgin for life? Maybe that is my destiny. Admittedly I mainly only want sex for social validation. I am curious to know what tits and ass feel like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:17 PM
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A woman's personality has never given me a boner. I don't get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:07 PM
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The answer to that is obvious: money. It wouldn't apply to others because most ugly people don't have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:03 PM
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Pretty much. The only way I see myself having sex (especially with a woman I'm attracted to) is paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:13 PM
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Won’t you just assume she’s repulsed by you? Yes I would. I would assume any women, even ones in my "league", would be repulsed by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:02 PM
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And of course, you don't need to be with someone 24/7 If I'm in a relationship, I'd have to. Which is why I don't want one. I just want to get laid. I'm just not attractive enough to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:01 PM
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How can they find that sexually attractive though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:53 PM
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Or it is just they don't act the same as men? More or less. Men and women just don't really have anything in common. Though there aren't many men I want to talk to for longer than 20 seconds either. My cousin is pretty much the only person I've ever genuinely liked and enjoyed spending time with, and even then, I wouldn't want to be around him all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:47 PM
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Why though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:42 PM
4

I would never put my mouth near someone else's genitals. That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:42 PM
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Because they're often either annoying or hateful bitches. Even the nice ones don't really do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:41 PM
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I've never met a woman, attractive or otherwise, that I could stand being around for more than 20 seconds. Getting to know ugly women hasn't made me attracted to them. I just like their personality and have gotten used to their looks, but I still couldn't ever get a hard on for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:35 PM
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I know I'm unattractive. That doesn't make me magically desire unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:14 PM
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It hasn't happened to me. I'm almost 30 and my preferences in women haven't changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:13 PM
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Ugly, fat and bald. And I'm not attracted to women who are in my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:12 PM
1

It's definitely shade and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
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I just assume they turn the lights off/close their eyes and imagine a sunset or something. That's my assumption too. Sounds very depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how other ugly people are attracted to each other and why I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
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Never said anything about deserving. I just don't know how you can stand the sight of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:45 PM
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My dad raped my mother asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:41 PM
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"A bit" isn't enough for the women I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:32 PM
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I think the "be friends first" advice is mainly for people who are ugly or below average in looks. Since no one will be attracted to them from the get go, they have to befriend each other and wear each other down before they eventually "realize" they're in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:51 PM
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It's just too much work and will take years to do. I'm already 30, I don't want to have to put my life on hold for ten more years only to finally be good enough to end up with some ran through single mother who's only going to get uglier with each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:35 PM
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They need to be taught from a young age the importance that physical attractiveness has on women finding them attractive. Parents need to make sure their sons dress well, stay groomed, eat a healthy diet, lift weights, don't get fat, stop telling them that personality matters more than looks and so on. If my parents had done that for me, I wouldn't be a dateless kissless virgin at 30 years old.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/25 07:24 PM
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The latter. I'm probably never going to change because I'm unable and unwilling to do things that would make me more attractive. Especially since I'll never be attractive enough to be with women I'm attracted to no matter how much effort I put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:15 PM
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It'd cost millions of dollars and many many years to make me at least halfway attractive. And there are some things wrong with me that no amount of surgeries, diet, exercise, etc. can make go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:05 PM
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others benefit from you hating yourself so why would you give in to them? Loving myself when no one else in the world loves me is just being delusional. There are also a lot of cosmetic treatments and products out there that address most issues so look into that. So you're agreeing that I can't be loved unless I'm physically attractive? Why should I waste all that time and money I don't have?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:21 PM
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Well, by most metrics, I'm hideous. Why should I love myself when no one else will ever love me (besides family and they don't count)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:15 PM
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You sound conceited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 05:49 PM
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I have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:33 PM
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It doesn't matter. I learned a long time ago that familial love is worthless. What matters is what people who aren't related to you think of you. And they think of me as less than dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:47 AM
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No I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:01 AM
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It doesn’t take long to form a masculine frame 7 months can get you to a decent place. I'm morbidly obese. It'll take way longer than 7 months. Probably a few years without crash diets. Don’t do it for a girl do it for your self. Being fit won't benefit me in any other way. So why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:00 AM
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You need validation from people close to you. So, my mother and grandmother? They don't count. They're family, they pretty much have to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:38 AM
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Everyone needs validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:31 AM
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I'm not even into men and I'd rather date Danny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:59 PM
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Yep, just like no one will call Danny Devito a 10 nor would anyone rate Meagan Fox a 1. In terms of looks, no. But in terms of everything else, I'd agree with those ratings. Danny DeVito is awesome. Megan Fox is a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:55 PM
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Religion is basically a big cope that there is something when we die instead of just nothing because most of us can’t face the fact that there is nothing after this, we just cease to exist. Hit the nail right on the head. Most people prefer comforting lies over the uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:46 PM
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Guess I'll have to just give up then since no woman I'm attracted to would ever be attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:27 PM
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We can't make ourselves be attracted to women who are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:25 PM
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theyre not looked down upon in the slightest. Either his group are rare saints or they do mock him behind his back or in their heads. I don't believe one bit that there isn't at least some points where the people around him think "He still hasn't had sex yet? What a loser. Why am I friends with him? He's so pathetic. He needs to lower his standards and go after a really ugly or fat girl with a nice personality and get it over with."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:24 PM
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All I know is I don't pass any woman's threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:13 PM
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Appearance isn't everything, but if you don't look good enough, no woman will want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:00 PM
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So I guess that means all the girls in real life who say I'm ugly were the ones telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:55 PM
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They do lie to men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:00 PM
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Wanting women to not lie to me is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:57 PM
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Finally a woman who's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:55 PM
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Guess no woman will be honest with me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:53 PM
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I don't believe them. I hoped at least one would be honest with me, but nope. And when I called them out on their lies, they either double down or get angry. No woman in real life has ever told me I'm attractive, aside from family and a few women old enough to be my grandmother. In fact, growing up, girls my age always said the opposite. Which is why I know those OnlyFans women are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:46 PM
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I mean.. are you earning A LOT ? No. I don't even make enough money to afford my own place. It's women on OnlyFans. They're lying to get me to spend money on them. Thankfully I've broken that addiction though. And like I said, one of these women was a former Olympic athlete. She was very obviously lying. Another was a plus-sized model named Lucy Collett aka. Lucy Vixen. I know that was a lie too. I don't believe that even the heavyset women are attracted to me because they're not fucking fat guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:41 PM
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No, you're clearly being sarcastic. Of course my life isn't perfect. It's just that changing it requires too much work that I'm not willing to do. It'll cause me more anguish than sticking with what I know. Humans are wired to seek pleasure and avoid pain. I'm just doing what mother nature intended rather than trying to fight it, because no matter how much you fight nature, nature always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:19 PM
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Sounds like you're just addicted to junk food Junk food is the only thing stopping me from self-deleting this point. why live life out in death's waiting room when you could be doing fun shit and meeting new and interesting people? I'm already doing things I find fun and I only find celebrities and fictional characters interesting and I'll never meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:07 PM
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She may not be the prettiest, but that shouldn't matter rigbt? It matters to my penis. It can't get hard for her. How am I supposed to have sex with that? Or are you advocating for below average men to get in sexless relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:03 PM
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Maybe some friends, but most Americans overestimate the number of "friends" they have because they don't know the difference between a friend and an acquaintance (you can thank our fucked up education system for that). That's been evident to me since I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:52 PM
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Which is why I always advocate picking up a team sport in connection with the gym. Yeah, my fat ass huffing and puffing around in front of other people who've been in shape their entire lives mocking and making fun of me is surely going to be worthwhile. Eat more fruit, season or grill your vegetables, incorporate nuts as well. Fruit tastes bitter or sour to me, not sweet. I can tolerate some vegetables without gagging now, but I'll never enjoy eating them. Nuts have too many calories for such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:46 PM
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30 is not ancient. Plenty of time to do the things I said. It's still too old to be with young attractive women who are at their peak beauty. Besides, what are you doing with your free time that's so amazing and can't be sacrificed for self-improvement? Swiping online? Reading Reddit? Gaming? None of those things better your life. No, but I'd much rather do that than eat tasteless food and torture myself in a gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:39 PM
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If you saw someone who looked like me, there's no way you'd be able to stomach looking at them, let alone be their "friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:30 PM
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You can do this in probably 1-2 years of self-improvement if you really commit to it. It'll take way longer than that. More like 5-10 years. I'm already 30 years old. I don't want to have to wait until I'm ancient to finally get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:28 PM
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Those are all the people I have access to because I'm low income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:20 PM
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Okay, so then that's your choice and you can't really be upset about it. Of course I can be upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:20 PM
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Red and Black pill is the same belief system. The difference is how they respond to it. Red pillers pursue endless "self-improvement" hoping it'll make them attractive enough for women. Black pillers realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:18 PM
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either do the greater work required to meet someone who's into them Too much work and the reward won't be worth it. I'm not going put my life on hold for ten years, torture myself with tasteless food, constant exercise and cosmetic surgery just so I can end up with some ran through single mother who's only going to get uglier with each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:17 PM
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Point is to chase girls who are in your area and that you can meet regularly I don't want to chase ugly, white trash with more children than teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:12 PM
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You think that behavior goes away in adulthood? No. They're just smart enough to not openly behave that way. No woman who looks like a model is into obese bald guys. They're into male model looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:07 PM
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People hang out with those who are similar to them. Thin, pretty women have thin, pretty friends. If you're not attractive to one of them, you're not attractive to any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:05 PM
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You must not be American. Most Americans don't know what a "friend" is. They use the term "friend" do describe everyone they know but don't hate. I've had people refer to me as a "friend" quite often and they were wrong. These people never see me outside of work or school, don't know anything about me beyond surface level stuff, don't have any conversations with me beyond "Hi, how are you?" type stuff. I've even told a few of them that we're not friends, just acquaintances and they couldn't comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:00 PM
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This us absolutely normal thing in Serbia Well, I'm American. It is most definitely not normal here from what I can tell. If that girl isn't attracted to you, her friends almost certainly won't be either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:00 PM
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It's much more natural and comfortable to be friends with another man IMO. Exactly! I say this all the time, but people keep arguing with me about it. I get along with men much more easily than I do women. I have more in common with most men than I do women. Men can relate to my struggles more, women can't. Men are more likely to say hello to me, women almost always ignore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:56 PM
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You, like most people, probably use the term "friend" too loosely. Those women you think of as friends are probably actually acquaintances at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:55 PM
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Female friends are great wingmen tho. No they're not. At best, they might try and set you up with their ugly fat friend who's "really nice", just so she can get you both to stop complaining about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:54 PM
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which all women have different types And there are some men who are nobody's type. Or so few that they'll almost certainly never meet a woman who's into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:51 PM
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I am confident. I'm confident that no woman would be genuinely attracted to me because I'm objectively unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:08 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:05 PM
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Everyone needs external affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:05 PM
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Just keep putting yourself on the back there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:05 PM
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I don't. That isn't going to make me suddenly get hard ons for bridge troll women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:30 PM
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Don't tell me you're one of those people who believes women are mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:30 PM
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If you can't find someone interesting to talk to unless they're sexually stimulating to you I don't even find women I'm attracted to interesting to talk to. I'm just more willing to put up with it from women I'm attracted to. I only find celebrities and fictional characters interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:29 PM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:26 PM
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Because men not liking me is a danger to me. Physically and socially. I've been bullied my whole life. It has destroyed me mentally, physically and socially. If I were "normal", I wouldn't have been treated like that. And part of being normal is being in sexual and romantic relationships with women. Women don't like me? Doesn't matter nearly as much as men not liking me. Most people in positions of power are men. Men not liking me will also affect my ability to get good jobs. And fuck you for in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:24 PM
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Because people who are well educated and highly paid are usually physically attractive. Physically attractive people make more money and are often more educated. You've probably never even seen a person in your social circle who looks similar to me because we're invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:54 PM
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I call them out for lying to me. Those women don't actually find me attractive, they're lying to me hoping I'll give them money if they tell me what I want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:31 PM
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I seriously doubt the only women around you are 3 tooth smokers. Pretty much, yeah. At least the ones who are in my income bracket. Most poor people smoke. Most poor people have bad teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:12 AM
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The only alternative is saying you're doomed and nothing can be done. I guess I'm doomed then. I'm not willing to torture myself for ten years just to end up with Chad's leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:14 AM
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why do you think an attractive woman would choose you over someone else who is attractive or not in your circumstances? The reason I won't answer is because I know they wouldn't. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:03 AM
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People who drink, smoke and do drugs are beneath me. People who act trashy are beneath me. People who make a bunch of noise and fight with their spouses constantly are beneath me. They could choose to be better, but they don't. I resisted those temptations, why can't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:52 AM
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You know damn well it was. You're just wording it in such a way that you won't get in trouble with the mods for breaking the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:45 AM
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Because I'm not some welfare case who drinks, smokes, does drugs and has more children than teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:38 AM
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I know that was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:37 AM
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More insults I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:17 AM
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Without knowingly exactly what was said or the tone of it, I can't say. But usually if someone is saying you're attractive, you might be better looking than you think. I weigh 320 pounds. That alone puts me in the bottom 1% of men. I've been called ugly by girls my whole life, even during the periods of my life that I wasn't fat. I'm not going to take the words of women who will say anything to get money from me at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:16 AM
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I don't. I see lots of guys as fat as me at the hospital I work at. None of them have wedding rings. There's a CNA who used to be about 500 pounds (she's had gastric bypass so she has lost a lot of it by now). She had a wedding ring on. And I bet the guy is skinnier than her. I see women on OnlyFans who are fat. They're not having sex with fat guys. They're fucking skinny and buff dudes. They even had the gall to lie and pretend like they find me attractive. I called them out on this and they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:02 AM
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I actually think they were interacting otherwise we’d still be keeping men and women separated. They are. Outside of sex and romance, men usually interact with other men and women usually interact with other women. And I think society would be better off if some kind of gender segregation were put in place. Men and women can be friends Why would they want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:58 AM
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Typical response. "Guy doesn't worship the ground women walk on, he must be a cocksucker."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:23 AM
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Yep. Maybe that's what I am. Sexually attracted to women, but romantically attracted to men. Though I think I'm more likely aromatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:22 AM
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Homophobia I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:16 AM
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This op is not honest I never lie. He still thinks lots of women are beneath him. They are beneath me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:05 AM
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I see tons of obese women with thinner men. I see no obese men with a woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:58 AM
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And you somehow think that's going to accomplish anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:48 AM
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I'm upset because it's happening to me. I don't care when it happens to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:43 AM
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Women are people. They're just people who have nothing I want or need beyond sex and social status. Everything else I can get from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:42 AM
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Lots of men who can't feel empathy get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:42 AM
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With ugly women. Who are not actually attracted to them and are just settling because they can't get the men they're really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM
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Out of curiosity, what do you think your rating would be if you were to post on truerateme as a point of reference I'd be a 3 at best, and that's being generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM
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So, I was right. You've never been friends with someone who looks like me and certainly never saw them with a woman who was attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM
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Translation: "Take what you can get and shut up". Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:34 AM
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Do you just not talk to anyone unless they make the first move? And are you the same with men? For the most part, yes. Especially with women. They hate ugly men like me approaching them, so I don't speak to women unless they speak to me first. I'm usually that way with men as well, but sometimes I'll initiate with them. I don't find most people interesting enough to be worth talking to. I typically only relate to celebrities and fictional characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:33 AM
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My God, this is middle school all over again. No I'm not gay because I don't get hard looking at men or want to suck dicks. I might be romantically attracted to men, but I'm not attracted to them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:30 AM
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Have you tried not hanging around with guys that make fun of you for "being a sexless loser"? All men do this, except for incels and monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:29 AM
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You care enough to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:27 AM
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So you're saying I should just give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:26 AM
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But you can mitigate and work on all of those issues. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:23 AM
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Ugly but enjoyable to be around gives you better chances than ugly and off-putting. Because there's so much difference between a 0% chance and a 000000000000000.1% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:21 AM
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If you don't like it, you're free to leave this sub at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:20 AM
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Why waste time when you could be doing other, more productive things? Like being a slave for the rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:18 AM
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The best I can muster is "sucks for you, glad it isn't me."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:59 PM
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This includes empathy which can be learned! If that were true, I'd have learned it by now. I care about myself and myself only and that's probably never going to change. I can't help it. I was born that way. At best, I can learn to fake it, but it'll never be genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:07 PM
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For neurotypical people, yes. For us, no. At best, we can learn to mimic it. But people know it's not genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:06 PM
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If they are true then you gotta be realistic about women and judging women as bottom of the barrel when your current position is as described doesn’t seem like a logical strategy. Just because I'm in a tough spot right now doesn't make me as much of a loser as others who are "in my league". I have nothing in common with poor people other than income. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, I have all my teeth (besides the wisdom teeth), I don't look 20 years older than my age. I at least try to dress …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:39 PM
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Lol. Anything to make this my fault. You and the others are just dancing around the issue so you won't get in trouble with the mods. I get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:30 PM
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Why do you think saying the same thing I said with the genders reversed is going to accomplish anything? If you're not going to get the results you want, then why bother doing anything? It's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:29 PM
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There's another clue. See, we all do it all the time, often unconsciously. You'll say anything to prove yourself right. Not talking to someone doesn't somehow translate to "I hate you". If women say hello to me, I say it back. It's just that it's always the old and unattractive women who try and talk to me. Very rarely do the young attractive ones speak to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:28 PM
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Why would I want to put in effort to only be able to fuck women I'm not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:22 PM
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Why do you see it as an insult when they do it, but not when you chose to use those words to refer to yourself? It's like black people and the N-word (and I'm black). I can say it, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:20 PM
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Look how repulsive the women they fuck are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:18 PM
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You're unconsciously letting out clues about yourself all the time. Bullshit. I don't talk to women at all unless I have to at work. So how can they know I feel that way specifically about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:17 PM
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I don't want a relationship. I just want sex and arm candy so other men won't make fun of me for being a sexless loser. I don't want to live with a woman. I live with two of them already. It sucks. A lot. I want to live alone or with other men. I only want to be friends with men. I'm just not sexually attracted to men. I'm fine with women being acquaintances or business contacts. But men and women can't and shouldn't be genuine friends. It's unnatural. Do you think cavemen and cave women were in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:16 PM
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I did. And guess what it got me? "Ew, you're ugly. I don't want you."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:09 PM
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You're not gonna go after a woman who's awkward and that you don't find attractive just because of her personality either Then why should I bother changing my personality when it's not going to get me any sex or romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:08 PM
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Well, how do you expect me to interpret it. You're telling me I'm an ugly loser. You just worded it in such a way to not invite the wrath of the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:05 PM
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If they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:05 PM
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Most of the guys who I'm friends with but aren't interested in sexually? It's their personality, not their looks. Your friends are probably attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:00 PM
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Ah. More personal attacks I see. Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:00 PM
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That fork in the road is that I'm not physically attractive enough for women to see me as more than a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:59 PM
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No woman knows I feel this way. So you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:57 PM
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I believe it's primarily my looks and my low income. The autism doesn't help. I just chose purple pill as my flair because I don't agree with the red pill about everything, but I agree that most of it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:51 PM
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You don't seem like you are ready for a relationship if you see a friendship with a women as a negative. It is. It's like a starving man placed in a glass box with no way out. And on the other side is all kinds of food. You can only look at it, you can never eat it. It's torture. I mean lots of women who might want to date you would be turned off by that attitude. No women would ever want to date me. At best, a few bottom-of-the-barrel women might settle for me because they can't do any better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:50 PM
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So you're saying I should just give up? if they're not very attractive they have to make up for it with personality. Personality doesn't make women want to fuck you. It just makes them put you in the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:46 PM
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Yeah. They know one outlier and somehow that invalidates the experience of the majority. "I know an ugly/fat/short/autistic guy in a relationship, so all of them can be in one" For every one you see who has a relationship, there are hundreds, maybe even thousands more who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:33 PM
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Exactly. People on here keep telling me that it's my personality, not my looks, that make me single. Changing my personality won't make women desire me sexually. At best, they'll just see me as a friend. And being friends with women is just a consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:27 PM
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Maybe men like you would have more success with women if you treated them like a real person. Not someone there to fulfill your sexual and physical desires. No we wouldn't. It would just make women want to be friends with us. Nothing more. A consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:04 AM
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Call it whatever you want. Life isn't worth living without sex. Especially as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:42 PM
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What are you trying to prove here? No matter what I say, you'll still think you're right and I'm wrong. Listening to men isn't helping me. Listening to women isn't helping me. Not listening to men or women isn't helping me. Nothing can help me because I was given the wrong parents and I can't change my genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:27 PM
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When women stop telling men lies about what attracts women and stop saying lies like "You'll find someone someday", "There's someone for everyone", "Attractiveness is subjective", I'll listen to them. Until then, I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:40 PM
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Relationships? Yeah. I don't want a relationship. I want casual sex. I’m sure someone will call it AF/BB or something. It is. I’m talking about people in their early to mid 20s. Almost no one in their 20s is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:33 PM
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That doesn’t mean ugly people are bad people, I’ve met some wonderful people who aren’t conventionally attractive. And yet they don't get sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:26 PM
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Listening to men may sometimes make things worse, but listening to women doesn't make things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:52 PM
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Which suggests that women are managing better without romantic/sexual involvement than men are. Because they don't have as much testosterone as men and sexless women aren't treated badly by society like sexless men are. So it's much easier for women to be happy without sex and relationships than it is for men. Only solution seems to be men getting rid of their testosterone so that they no longer desire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:46 PM
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If women weren't pathological liars, maybe we'd listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:45 PM
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Everyone knows that women can't be losers. Only men can. 40-year-old woman is unmarried? Not a loser. 40-year-old man is unmarried? Loser. A woman still lives with her parents? Not a loser. A man who still lives with his parents? Loser. A woman who works a low-wage job? Not a loser. A man who works a low-wage job? Loser. A woman wants to be financially supported by her spouse? Not a loser. A man who wants to be supported by his spouse? Loser. I could keep going, but that's enough to get the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:39 PM
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Yep. "Love" is transactional, though most people are unwilling to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:35 PM
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Then just give up. We have no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:27 PM
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Only the ones smart enough to realize that women don't actually love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:39 PM
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Being funny and nice don't mean shit if you're 5'6, balding, chopped facially, or have a big beer belly. I wish I could upvote this a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:43 AM
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I can't afford an escort. You aren't offering them anything else. Money is the only thing women value from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:12 AM
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If you lived my life, you wouldn't be smiling either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:10 AM
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I've been on them. Didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:08 AM
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Your looks are definitely not your problem Yes they are. Women don't know my personality. They reject me for my looks. All the girls who called me ugly and refused to go out with me certainly weren't turned off by my "personality". Plenty of men with my views still get sex and relationships. Why? Their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:38 AM
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None. I don't see why that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:32 AM
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So we women aren't human to you. You're human. Just not of any use to me. I've got to admit, I'm not weeping here. Of course not, because you don't know what it's like to want something you can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:31 AM
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"I don't like people, I don't have friends and I don't speak to anyone. I wonder why I can't get sex and a hot woman to boost my status." My looks. That's why. ROFL! You're a troll or a sociopath, either or both. I'm definitely not a troll. I may in fact be a sociopath though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:29 AM
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I just wish there was a way to get rid of my sexual attraction to women. My life would be so much better if I could stop wanting what I can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:28 AM
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Idk maybe a happy family and a life partner? I don't want to get married or have kids. Having a partner or whatever might be fun, but why can't I just find a male buddy to be with? What's the difference? Women arent objects Never said they were. They're just not people who can benefit my life in any way beyond having sex with me and accompanying me in public so that other men respect and envy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:20 AM
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But you are not willing to do what it takes to get them and prefer to eat more food. Because it's too much. I'd have to literally almost starve myself, eat tasteless food and exercise every minute of the day. I've lost 20 pounds since I was at my heaviest and that's only because I'm on Ozempic. I don't think I can realistically lose more weight without extreme changes that I'll never be able to sustain. Tbh in my country and especially in my age group there are close to no obese people so I can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:17 AM
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If I have to explain to you what "use" another human being has in your life, well, I don't know where to begin. That's a lot of words for "I can't. You're right." Do you view everyone in your life like this? Do you analyse what "use" your friends have? "This one is good to have around when my car breaks down so I'll keep him." I don't have any friends besides one cousin, but for the most part, yes. Not in specifics like that, but I do. I don't love or even like my mother or grandmother but I tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:15 AM
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I was just giving advice for people who want to get better results in dating. I do want better results, but it looks like wanting is all I'll ever have. Hasn’t been my experience at all. I don't believe anything without proof. When you hear "fat", you probably think "guy who doesn't have a six pack" or "Dadbod". I'm talking about men who are actually obese. No woman wants them, but their female looksmatch still has a male partner who's thinner than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:09 AM
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It’s not about being worthy or not, but statistically speaking more people will find you attractive if you are not overweight which will make dating much easier for you. Not everyone who's overweight can or will lose weight. Even if I did lose weight, I'll still be unattractive because I'm covered in stretch marks and I'll have a shit ton of loose skin that can only be removed via surgery. I'm not giving up food I love when food is the only thing I have to live for. That being said, even overwei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:30 PM
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To other women. But not to men. Only our mothers genuinely love us. And that's not a guarantee either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:15 PM
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No woman knows I feel this way, so how can they reject me based on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:08 PM
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Work on your physical appearance. Lose weight if overweight, nice haircut, good style. So overweight men are not worthy. Thanks for confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:49 PM
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The point is, y’all started this war. Deal with the consequences of your actions. I started nothing. Red and black pilled men literally write manifestos about how much they hate and want to torture, rape, kill women and, in some cases, carry it out by committing mass murder. Again, most men who beat rape and kill women are not red or black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:35 PM
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Uncle titty sprinkles. Makes about as much sense as what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:25 PM
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