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many men don't know how to have sex Because most men don't have sex often enough to get good at it and women hate having to "teach" men (that's an excuse often given as to why women don't want to be with virgin men.)
/r/ExRedPill04/04/26 01:39 AM
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Aren't what? I have no idea what you're saying.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 09:39 PM
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Okay. You weren't the one I replied to. You're probably having the best sex of your life whenever you want, right?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 09:38 PM
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Of course you call it a "mantrum" because you don't agree with it. lol And your point is?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:50 PM
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I don't believe that. Women have caused me nothing but suffering and pain. Why should I like them? How would it benefit me in any way?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:32 PM
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If I were a woman saying I hate men, you'd be singing my praises.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 08:26 PM
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Of course you don't bother to refute what I said because you know I'm right. Whatever floats your boat then.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:52 PM
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Especially after my libido (testosterone) fell off a cliff in my fifties, I find it easier to talk to younger women coworkers without awkwardness. I wish I was at that point. Even though my testosterone is so low I'm basically a woman, I still resent having to interact with them, especially young attractive women because they're still just a cruel reminder of what I'll never have and how I'll always be viewed as a lesser person for never having experienced sex. I just try to avoid talking to the…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 07:05 PM
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Okay. If I were a woman saying this about men, you'd be singing my praises.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 06:10 PM
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Kitten, look at yourself. There's a lot going on inside you. Okay. What's this supposed to mean? You're reducing people’s experiences through your own lens, especially since beauty is subjective. If beauty is subjective, then why do all models and actors, who make millions of dollars based on their appearance, look the same? Society imposes unrealistic and unattainable standards. If people didn't naturally find this attractive, they wouldn't pay money to see them.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:59 PM
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There are a lot of unattractive people dating, so I think this theory is flawed; look at your standards too. They're dating because no one else wants them and they have to take whatever they can get. I'm not interested in dating. I just want sex. And yeah, I'm not attracted to women in my league. I'm trying to force myself to, but it isn't working.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:53 PM
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No. I'd like to live in a world where I were asexual and didn't have to see or interact with women at all. I'm pretty close to the asexual part since I no longer get aroused by porn. I honestly think men and women would both be happier living in a gender segregated society where babies are only born via artificial insemination.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 05:31 PM
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Exactly. The solution to the male loneliness problem isn't relationships with women, it's relationships with other men (not sexual or romantic). It took me a while to figure this out, but there is absolutely nothing other than sex that a relationship with a woman could provide me with that I can't get from a guy friend. Men are friendlier to me than women. Men are more likely to say hello to me than women (and the women who do are usually older and/or physically unattractive). Men are more likel…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 04:52 PM
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Or maybe no one wants to hook up with you because you're boring Girls liked me in school, but only as a friend. They wouldn't date or have sex with me because of my looks. And this isn't me guessing, they outright said so. Hooking up is all about looks.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 01:15 PM
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I was referring to heterosexual women in particular. It makes sense why you can't have sex with who you want because you're attracted to women and women have higher standards than men.
/r/ExRedPill03/04/26 12:18 PM
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The only thing I'm jealous of women for is their ability to have sex with anyone they want.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 11:09 PM
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Not the exact same, but there is a large degree of overlap.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:24 PM
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Women find 80% of men unattractive. Women themselves even agree with this sentiment.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:20 PM
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A lot of women do it somehow, or else most men would be virgins. And I do think that things will get to that point sooner or later.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:12 PM
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So strange, how those guys assume sex is like some mind numbing corporate job or factory work for us. It is when the man isn't attractive enough.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 07:05 PM
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How so?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/26 09:36 PM
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I'm the one pointing out lies.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/26 01:07 PM
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Y'all are so desperate to keep this place an echo chamber.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/26 12:45 PM
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How many women are married to 666? They likely settled for mediocre men because they couldn't get the man they wanted. Or the guy was more attractive when the relationship began and he let himself go over time.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/26 11:09 PM
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You're right that relating to NTs is always gonna be hard. But don't you think you'd be able to relate to other Autistic people? There are problems with this: Autistic people are a very small minority. There are about four times as many autistic men as there are autistic women. Autistic women can still date NT men because men don't care as much about that. Just because someone else is also autistic doesn't mean I'll have any common interests or whatever with them. That's like telling a diabetic …
/r/ExRedPill24/03/26 04:34 PM
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This is such bullshit. Women don’t require any of that. If that were true, no one would ever date. Most people settle.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 10:56 PM
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Another tired old "The only reason men find beautiful women attractive is because the media told us so. If they started putting elderly 500 pound women in movies, TV, ads and social media, men would be attracted to that." People wouldn't spend millions of dollars to look attractive people if they didn't find them attractive. No matter how many times Hollywood tries to convince me that Scarlett Johansson, Emma Watson and Christina Hendricks are attractive, my dick will never get hard for them. Bu…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 09:57 PM
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We can't control what we're attracted to.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 09:12 PM
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I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not. It makes me extremely miserable and I get no benefits from doing so. Casual sex is all about looks. I'll never be good looking enough for casual sex.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 08:24 PM
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And God forbid you care about another human being which is kind of important for romance which is what makes someone attractive. I don't want romance. I want sex. Plenty of men who don't care about others get laid. No one cares about me, why should I care about others? I have autism. I cannot and never will be able to relate to other humans. Autism can't be cured. At best I can learn to imitate NTs but it will never be genuine.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 08:06 PM
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Sure. But usually men who are no woman's type have some improvement to do. And it always goes back to me I having to spend ten years doing things I don't want to do, giving up all the food I love, trying to pretend to care about others and laugh at their boring unfunny jokes, and be something I'm not.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:49 PM
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I personally do not care if I reproduce or not. I know I'd be a terrible parent and I wouldn't even consider having kids unless I become rich since I don't want to continue the generational poverty I was unfairly brought into. But my lizard brain doesn't know this and keeps pressuring me to do it. And I can't turn it off. I'm near-suicidally depressed because I'll never get to know what tits and ass feels like, never hear a woman scream my name in pleasure and be viewed as an equal by other men …
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:48 PM
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Get mental help and realize that there’s more to life than just being physically attractive to the opposite gender. That would be a nice start. The entire purpose of human life is to pass on our genes. Everything else is cope. Ignoring reality isn't going to make me any happier.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:23 PM
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What's the other alternative then? Stay quiet like a good little boy?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:19 PM
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See where I am going with this? Yes, but you can't deny that some men are no woman's type and some men are almost every woman's type.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 07:14 PM
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All over Reddit. Any woman centric sub is littered with these comments. Tons of posts of women admitting that most men are not physically attractive to them. But I'm sure you'll pull the old "Reddit is not real life" bullshit because you don't agree.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:47 PM
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What are you talking about? I said that ugly people being in relationships doesn't prove that their partners find them attractive. People settle for a number of reasons. Loneliness, social pressure to be in a relationship, financial reasons, etc.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:39 PM
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Because these types of men are who the women I'm attracted to have sex with. And isn't it common sense that these men get more pussy than other men?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:26 PM
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Then why do those men get more sex from more attractive women than men who are not these things?
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:22 PM
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The vast majority of women are attracted to physically fit men with muscles, low body fat and abs.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:19 PM
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Yeah, they often are. Not always, but often.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:17 PM
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That doesn't work. Just because ugly people are in relationships doesn't mean their partners are attracted to them. Many people settle. Maybe they were more attractive when they first met their partners and let themselves go over the years. Many people stay in bad relationships even though they're unhappy.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:16 PM
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Most people aren't attractive (the majority of men and women look gross IMO) and still get partners. How they can stand to kiss, touch or see their partners naked bodies is beyond me.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:13 PM
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Women say all the time that most men are physically unattractive to them.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:11 PM
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When you see women in relationships with men that don't meet those standards, does that change your perception of this 666 rule? Or do you believe that said women are settling for a lesser man? I definitely do. Especially if the woman isn't attractive herself. Or the dude is either rich or was better looking at the beginning of the relationship and let himself go.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:11 PM
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Doesn't mean their partner is attracted to them. Women often compromise on looks due to other traits (usually money, but also good personality and such), especially if the woman isn't attractive herself. And people wonder why there are so many dead bedrooms.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 01:52 PM
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Because personality without looks = friend. Girls liked my personality in school, but they wouldn't date me because of my looks. And this isn't speculation, they outright told me this. Girls made fun of my looks and called me ugly all the time. I'm sure you'll have some kind of excuse ready to dismiss my experiences though.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 10:54 AM
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What's your solution then?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:35 AM
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If these motherfuckers would go to therapy and attend a few women’s studies courses with an open mind they could work their way to a happy life. Women still wouldn't be attracted to them if they did this. They would just see them as "friends". Of course I get downvoted for speaking the truth again.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:32 AM
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Do you think we will see a rapid decline of birth because it’s going to push women into being single? I definitely do. It's already happening. It's just natural selection at play. Our modern conveniences and patriarchal rule allowed too many genetically inferior, boorish mediocre men who wouldn't have been able to reproduce in the caveman era to do so and it resulted in too many undesirable men being brought into the world. Since the structure that forced women to be with these losers is crumbli…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 03:10 PM
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I think it'll get far worse before it gets better.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 11:22 AM
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All i will say is keep going to therapy. Because you seriously need it. You carry a HIGHLY toxic and tunnel visioned viewpoint. Stop with the tired ass therapy insults. I'm not "toxic" because I don't have the same views as you. Therapy will not make me deny reality. Nor will it help me get sex.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 06:48 PM
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You want women to solve violence women have against men? Why arent the men solving that since they are in charge? Because when men fight back against women who are violent towards them, they're the bad guy and they're the ones getting arrested and all that. Women know this and some take advantage of it. They can hit men all they want and the men can't do anything about it without incriminating himself. How exactly are men supposed to stop this? Women need to stop hitting men. That's on them to d…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 06:41 PM
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Yeah. Worst generation by far. And they say my generation is so bad. Guess who raised us to be that way?
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 05:27 PM
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You cannot reasonably say that feminism is harmful, but patriarchy is not. I've never said that. Patriarchy is harmful to men and women. Feminism benefits women but harms men. Neither patriarchy nor feminism benefits men. Feminism desire equality and empathy You can say that all you want, but feminists words and actions often contradict this. They have empathy for women, but not for men. They want to be equal to men in ways that benefit them, but not men (still expecting men to pay for dates, no…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 04:50 PM
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All of that may be true in theory, but in reality, that isn't the case. Most men and women still reward men who stick to traditional "toxic" masculinity and punish men who do not. Men's mental health is getting worse, not better. Feminist women are turning against men altogether and openly say they do not care about our problems one bit.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 03:51 PM
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Feminism is for everyone and actually helps men How is feminism helping men? It seems to be doing the opposite.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/26 02:20 PM
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Okay.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 04:19 PM
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It doesn't matter what it is. Some people will never be valued by others. Lime the homeless for example. No amount of pretending otherwise will make people like me.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 12:13 PM
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Didn't you once say humans were no different than apes in a jungle?
/r/ExRedPill05/03/26 11:08 AM
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I'm curious why you unblocked me, though. Felt the need to reply to this. Probably won't be repeating that mistake.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 11:06 PM
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Average as in normal bmi Most Americans are overweight or obese. That is the new "average". People of a healthy weight are a minority in the US. When are you going to learn that college aged women do not represent the majority of women?
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:36 PM
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I've never found men difficult to understand or relate to. I certainly don't understand or relate to women. Men are generally nicer to me than women and are far more likely to have things in common with me.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:34 PM
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Red pill forces a “hierarchy” of men in order to be relevant. It's isn't forced. Viewing people in hierarchies is literally wired into us. No one would say an unemployed trailer park dweller is worth more to society than a doctor.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 10:33 PM
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Not everyone can get the best, so they have to take whatever they can get.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 07:30 PM
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Why are you putting Sydney Sweeney in this category? Because most men (especially younger men) don't know what an "average" woman really looks like thanks to movies, TV and social media. When they hear "average" woman, they think of someone who's young, "cute" but not "hot" and is skinny but has small boobs, butt, etc. Someone like Emma Watson or Kristen Stewart ten years ago. Like in movies where the "ugly" girl is just a model with no makeup, glasses and unflattering clothes and/or hair. In re…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 08:00 PM
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None of yall ever asked actual women what they're into. Because they often lie or omit the physical traits they like because they don't want to hurt men's feelings.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 06:08 PM
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How so?
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:46 AM
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Also, you dont find almost every woman attractive. For one, you have preference for an age range, a range of body fat % and you probably like symmetry too Exactly. When men like this say "I find most women attractive", what they mean is "I find most women who are under 30, not ugly and not overweight/obese attractive." Which is probably around 20% of women at most.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:43 AM
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Exactly. I'd rather have what he has than a relationship. Dude sounds like he's humble-bragging
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 03:41 AM
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I appreciate the effort but I don't believe in this "everything is already in you" stuff. You're encouraging me to try and distract myself from the fact that I won't get to accomplish the sole thing evolution has programmed into me. If I could take a pill that would make me asexual, I would. But there is no such thing. People just like you have been an integral part of society for thousands of years Yeah, as cannon fodder. global capitalism eating people up. Well, Capitalism isn't going away in …
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 11:13 PM
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Maybe you should try to get a hobby and try to find a way to be proud of yourself. I'll be proud of myself when I'm finally a real man. Nothing makes me happy. Nothing.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 10:37 PM
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Also, women rate men's looks lower than men rate women's looks. Here we go again, the OK Cupid bullshit. While women rated fewer men as attractive, they were more receptive to messages from men they weren't initially attracted to if they were charming. Meanwhile, even though the men rated women's looks on a more even bell curve, the majority of the men messaged only the best looking women on the site.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 09:38 PM
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You should try to not classify your self as a "bottom 1% man" I'm fat, bald, poor, live in a trailer park with my mother and grandmother, autistic, no hobbies or interests outside of movies and TV. Pretty much no woman on the planet would ever want to date or have sex with me. For one, comparing yourself to others is never healthy It's impossible not to do. Humans are wired to compare ourselves to others. If I don't measure up to others, they won't want to be around me, hence why I have no frien…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 09:35 PM
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Well when you don't have looks at all, it doesn't matter if women care less, because they still care and won't be interested in me either way.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:32 PM
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men are more visual. Are they? Women are visual as well and it's time we stopped denying it. It just seems like women care less about looks than men because women care more about traits that aren't looks than men do and are sometimes willing to compromise on looks if the man has other qualities or if she also doesn't have looks.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:28 PM
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If you've slept with multiple women yet are not a "top 1%" man, then shouldn't that be proof enough for you? I've never had any women, but that's because I'm a bottom 1% man.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/26 08:19 PM
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I've never asked a woman out because they made it clear to me that they're not attracted to me, so why bother?
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 12:32 PM
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I wouldn't know. I've never even been on a date.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 02:51 AM
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Just because someone used to live a certain life before, it doesn't mean that they can't live different to that later in life. That doesn't really answer what I said, but okay.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 02:17 AM
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A woman could have a past and still genuinely like you How can that be the case when pretty much every man she's been with will have been better than me in some way? Better looking, richer, bigger dick, etc.?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 07:42 PM
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Why would any man want to be with a woman who doesn't desire them?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 04:54 PM
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Do you even have male friends? Apparently you missed this: except one male cousin who's the closest thing to a friend I have Other than him, no. Or do you just hate everyone who isn't you? It's more like indifference than hate, though there are a lot of people I genuinely hate. The only people I like and admire are either celebrities or fictional. And I do hate myself too.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 10:53 PM
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But blaming the entire female population for your bad luck... that's the sad part. It doesn't matter. I'll likely never meet a woman who isn't like the ones I've had to deal with and even if I do, I have absolutely no desire to live with a woman once I'm finally away from my female relatives. I want to live alone with a dog. I want everything my way with no one nagging or telling me what to do. And if I absolutely had to live with someone, I'd much rather it be a man. The only time I can envisio…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 05:53 PM
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It's not just my mother, it's all the women in my family and all the ones I knew in school.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 04:54 PM
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Do you hate your mother? Yes. Any sisters if you have them? I'm an only child.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 03:03 AM
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I wish I knew. I hate that I'm attracted to women. I'd give anything to be gay or asexual. But I can't. Women have given me nothing but suffering and pain, and yet I'm heterosexual. It's like God (if there is one) is pulling some kind of sadistic, cruel joke.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 09:02 PM
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Of course you have to resort to petty insults when you have no argument.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 03:56 PM
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Nothing only a woman can. Plus a lot of bitching. Besides, my mother is so masculine she might as well be a man.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 02:45 PM
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No idiot, I don't.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/26 02:31 PM
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Name me one other thing a woman can offer me that I can't get from a male friend or a dog. Sex is literally the only thing since I'm not gay or a zoophile.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/26 12:24 AM
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"I don't understand why men I'm better than are threatened by how much better I am than them". Sure.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 07:33 PM
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Better looking. That's about it.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:46 PM
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The only way a woman could make my life better is to have sex with me. Anything else I could get from a guy friend or a dog. I know I'm going to get downvoted for saying this but that's how it is.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:46 PM
0

This just sounds like humble bragging.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:42 PM
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>Maybe you've conditioned yourself to only get hard for super hot women because you've spent your life gooning to porn. You're right. Porn is the reason why men aren't attracted to old. 600 pound women with three teeth. It can't possibly be because thousands of years of evolution taught us to be attracted to young, good looking healthy women so we can have healthy children because things like old age, obesity and facial and body disfigurements often indicate poor health and/or infertility. /s >Y…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 10:39 PM
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I already live with two of them. Why would I want to deal with that again?
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 08:38 PM
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My main problem with the "self-improvement" aspect of Red Pill is how absolute it is. Like you have to be six feet tall, you have to get buff and shredded, you have to make six figures or else you'll never attract a woman. Most men aren't six feet tall, most men don't have big muscles and six packs (and most don't have the dedication it would take to get them) and most men will never make six figures. Yet they still end up in relationships. RP also only tends to focus on improving your looks and…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 07:26 PM
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None of the above.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 12:30 AM
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Well, there are women that a lot of people think are hot that I have no attraction to whatsoever (Scarlett Johansson, Emma Watson, Christina Hendricks for example). Just get with a girl you’re attracted to. No women I'm attracted to have ever been interested in me or paid me any attention at all unless they're required to (cashiers, coworkers, etc.) Only women I'm not attracted to give me any attention at all.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 11:46 PM
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When people see you with an attractive girlfriend especially one that is not on your level looks wise and even on your financial level, they see her not you. So you're saying I'll always be invisible then? Women have way more to offer than just looks And nothing except looks have ever made me hard for a woman. Am I supposed to end up in a sexless relationship or something? Take a bottle of Viagra and keep my eyes closed every time I have to do the deed? Maybe that's why so many men need Viagra.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 11:28 PM
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I’m not overly attached to the idea of having a super attractive wife. I do. I don’t care to get a pat on the back from other people because I have a pretty gf out of my league in the looks department. Again, I do. I don't want to be invisible to the world anymore or be made fun of for not having an attractive woman. I want to be high status.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 10:59 PM
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Too many men chase after model looking women Well, that's what most men find attractive and attraction cannot be controlled.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 09:56 PM
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You assumed I'd be happier with someone richer. Why wouldn't you be? I'd be happier with a good looking woman than an ugly one. No woman wants a poor man. Hence my current situation.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:55 PM
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I can't control what I'm attracted to. Why do you people always act like attraction is a choice? I can't make my dick get hard for 90 year old women. Even most the women I see at the hospital I work at who are around my age don't look attractive to me and I'm only 30. If I didn't know their ages, I'd have guessed they were in their 40s or 50s. White people don't age well.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:36 PM
1

Are you sure you replied to the correct comment?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 10:33 PM
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I married him because he is kind, funny and attractive. What if he also wasn't attractive in addition to not making enough money?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:17 PM
1

Assuming you're a reasonably attractive woman, you could easily find a man just like that who makes more money though. What makes him so special?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:13 PM
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By your logic you can never marry because you'll find your partner unattractive in 10 years. That's the truth though. That's why I never want to marry because even the best looking woman in the world would eventually lose her beauty.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 09:13 PM
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Why are you in thid group if you're still an incel? Because A) I've been banned from almost every other similar community and B) I thought this place was about trying to help people exit the redpill but apparently it's just an echo chamber for people who already left redpill to mock and ridicule those who are still in. As everyone keeps saying, the only way to know what a woman wants in a partner or is seeking in a relationship is to ask her directly. That is literally the only way. What women w…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/26 03:07 PM
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are you physically disabled? Not really. Are you physically deformed? I'm obese and bald, most people would consider that physically deformed. Are you under 5”? I'm 6'1" and that hasn't helped me. That's why I hate it when shorter guys bitch about their height. Height means fuck all if you don't have any other attractive qualities. Have you been medically (not self or friend diagnosed but actually by a doctor) diagnosed with any mental disorders? I am autistic. Professionally diagnosed and I onl…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/26 03:05 PM
1

I really do not understand attraction to personality. My penis has never gotten hard over a woman's personality. Or her education, income, job title, interests, whatever. Only women's looks have done that for me. Obviously that stuff is important for a relationship though.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/26 07:46 AM
2

Do you live in a small town? Yes.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 02:27 PM
1

Problem is most people my age already have plenty of friends and don't want any more. Or they're married with kids and get all their social needs met that way.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 02:15 AM
-6

Going to women's subs like r/TwoXChromosomes, r/Feminism and such and seeing how they talk about men doesn't help either. Like, if this is how women think about men (even if much of it is justified), doesn't exactly make women seem very likable. "Oh, this is just the Internet". And? These are real people posting this stuff. How do I know which women think I'm a monster just for being born with a penis and which ones don't?
/r/ExRedPill15/01/26 08:55 PM
-1

They hide behind it because nobody likes or respects men who do not have these things.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 07:37 PM
0

Obviously I do. And it seems to be the truth.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 03:08 PM
-4

you lack of self-esteem Lack of self esteem is justified when you're unattractive and nobody likes you.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 03:43 AM
12

The “history” that they think they know is more often than not, about as deep and accurate as a collection of tropes from fictional media. Exactly. They harken back to an era that they weren't even alive for and base their assumptions about what the past was like from "Leave it to Beaver" type shit. Or old folks who are romanticising their youth because of nostalgia. I'm sure that in some ways, the past was better. But I'm also sure that it was worse in a lot of ways. These guys just want to bel…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/26 11:36 PM
2

Lying about what? That attraction requires butterflies and isn’t a checklist of good enough? Lying about looks not being the thing that causes the butterflies and that it's my personality and not my looks stopping me from having sex and relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:28 AM
1

rejection can fuck him up to that extent still hasn't been resolved. Of course you're dismissing natural valid feelings as wrong. Constant rejection will drive anyone mad. What about circumstances where packing up your ball and going home simply isn't an option? Unless you hit on someone at work, when will that not be an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:27 AM
1

Friendship with a woman is net cost with no upsides whatsoever. I wish I could upvote this a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:26 AM
2

Stop lying to me and dismissing my very valid feelings. That's what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:14 AM
0

I have no friends except one cousin I only see once a month. If you're friends with someone, you'd probably have enough in common with them that you would be compatible as a couple. I wouldn't even be friends with someone who's interests and values are different from my own. It's my looks. Girls have told me such in school. And I look worse now than I did then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:10 AM
2

Dude my ex boyfriend made way less money then me and that was never an issue for the duration of the relationship. I bet he still made a liveable wage. I make $15 an hour at 30 years old. I can't even afford half of rent, let alone the other stuff that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:08 AM
-1

Yeah, like you know all that bullshit early on. None of those things are why I'm a virgin, never dated and never even kissed at the age of 30. It's my physical appearance, my lack of money and my autism. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:03 AM
4

Incompatibility= he's not good looking, rich or popular enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:05 AM
2

And some men will never experience this from any woman. Yet you all expect us to just shut up and deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:04 AM

Because it's fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:03 AM
3

Yes it is. Rejecting means you're not good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:46 PM
3

Not wanting to date someone does not imply being “not good enough.” Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:44 PM
1

Someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:43 PM
0

It's either wasn't the real friendship from the beginning or you're making irrational decision with someone who is still a good friend Boo hoo. She's easily replaceable. Especially if he stops trying to be friends with women and befriends men instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:43 PM
2

You don’t have to be fucking or dating a woman to have a woman in your life. Why would you want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:42 PM
5

Are we talking about multiple girls or asking the same girl multiple times? Probably the former. Like it or not, there's only so many times you can be rejected before it kills your self-esteem. Knowing that no woman will ever want you is soul-crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:41 PM
9

It's a lot easier to end a friendship than drop a class or quit your job. If the guy doesn't want to be friends with her anymore, all he has to do is walk away and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:40 PM
15

I don't see the point in being friends with women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:38 PM

I'm a millennial (Barely, I was born in 1995).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:31 PM

Integrity. Don't know what that means. Concern for others. I only care about myself. Fun to be around (the opposite of a whiner). I think I'm fun to be around, but most people would probably disagree. Common genuine interests or at least be passionate about something interesting. Almost no one shares my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:00 PM

You're probably a rare outlier, plus you're a woman. Guys make a much bigger deal of this stuff, but women care too. I can't count how many posts I've seen of women saying they'd never be with a man who's a virgin. They significantly outnumber those who would. You’ve internalized a certain kind of bullying and it’s stopped you from growing up and making friends I've internalized it because children, unlike adults, don't lie to protect people's feelings. They say their true opinions. Adults still…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:48 PM

Just show you have the qualities people value in a friend. What qualities would those be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:42 PM

I don't whine about it. Not outside of Reddit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 10:33 PM

Nobody wants to be friends with sexless men unless it's to make fun of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:48 PM
10

Men with autism have it way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:37 PM
1

So you'd rather have power over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:31 PM
-1

That's not an argument. My lived experience has told me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:30 PM
14

Looks are more important for women to have than men. Not really anymore. It's important for both to have looks, and seems to be becoming even more important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:28 PM
0

Except that almost no woman wants a man who has less resources than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:26 PM
1

I think homo/bisexuality also plays a role. I can't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that more women identify as gay or bisexual than men. I think lesbian and bisexual women are more likely to be open about their same sex attractions than gay and bisexual men, who are more likely to remain closeted, thus without a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:19 PM

This gets posted constantly. You might as well give up. Nobody (especially not the users on this sub. Even one of the mods called us "retarded") likes, respects or has any sympathy for autistic men. We are, at best, begrudgingly tolerated. Not even autistic women like us. Maybe you'll get extremely lucky and find someone, but the odds are very low. Hopefully you see this post before the mods delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:22 PM
1

I definitely see dates as something I don't want to do and is just mediocre pretext for what I really want: sex. I've never been on a date and I have almost zero interest in doing so. Having to pay money and listen to some woman talk about her life and hobbies. I'd die of boredom. I'm only interested in myself, so I wouldn't be a good choice for dating. I have no desire to ever get married or have any long term relationships. I'll only have kids if I become rich someday and would rather raise th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:22 PM
6

Because I'm fat, bald, poor and autistic. No woman is attracted to that (even though some have lied to me about that) and I'm probably never going to change. Some of those things can't be changed even if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:25 PM
4

Yeah it is. Why do you think I want to rid myself of my heterosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:21 PM
5

Everything comes with a price. I'd give anything if I could stop being attracted to women because I'll never have one and I'm tired of wanting something I can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 PM
2

By lowering their testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:48 PM

Because I've been told outright by women on here that, and I quote "No woman has ever gotten wet over a 300 pound man". A woman's personality has never given me a boner, so why would I expect a woman's coochie to get wet over a man's personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:04 AM

Worse. He's dead so he at least got what was coming to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:28 PM

I'm not sure. Probably both. Definitely traumatized but I think I may be aromantic as well. I've never been interested in getting married. I'm not even that interested in going on a date (why would I want to pay money to listen to some woman talk about herself? I'd be bored out of my mind) or even kissing. And even sex, I mainly just want for validation. That, and I desperately want to touch titties and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:24 PM

Individuals are different. Not really. Most people are pretty much just interchangeable NPCs. Every interaction I have with them is exactly the same. Interacting with one man is not interchangeable with interacting with another man It is to me. This is why you are not friends equally with every man you know. I have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:09 PM

I want them to love me” and you’ll understand everything. I don't care if they love me because I don't want a relationship. Love means fuck all. My mother loves me but I don't care about her one bit. I want casual sex, nothing more. But it has to be with women who are attracted to me. Not because she needs money, not because she feels sorry for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:57 PM

Bro, even autistic people know what it means to like certain one person more than another person, because you get along with them better due to their personality traits, disposition etc. There's only one person I've ever known that I genuinely like and enjoy being around and that's my (male) cousin. Everyone else I merely tolerate because I have to (work, etc.) you’d probably prefer a sex worker if you only want pussy. I wouldn't enjoy it because I wouldn't be able to enjoy sex with a woman who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:48 PM

It’s just a fact that women still prefer partners who like them for individual reasons, not just because you want pussy and she has one. The pussy is the only thing separating her from, say, a guy friend. What else, besides sex, can a woman give a straight man that he cannot get from another man? Same with women and men, men can't provide straight women with anything they can't get from another woman. And according to straight women, their sex toys please them better than any man could. So what …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:30 PM

Why would I like a woman for who she is when who she is isn't that special? There's millions more just like her, both men and women. I already have a Toyota Corolla, why would I want another one that's exactly the same as the one I have except in a different color? Even if it had different features, I could easily go find another one in my preferred color that has those features. Now if the other color has features that are only available on models that color, maybe it would be worth having.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:26 PM

Unless these people you're talking about never go anywhere in public other than their stupid D&D groups, I don't see how they would only be visible in those spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:19 PM

I'm not in denial at all. You're just an asshole making assumptions about a person you've never seen. I'll probably never lose a significant amount of weight because I'm not willing to give up food that tastes good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:17 PM

The problem is that I don't love her. I tolerate her at best. She is not a loveable or even likable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:13 PM

I'm not interested in that, so why would I go? I see plenty of couples at my job and in grocery stores and whatnot. I see fat women with skinny men almost every day. I almost never see fat men with any woman at all, and on the rare occasions he does have a woman with him, she's usually fatter than him. Or it's an older couple that have been together for decades so the man was likely thinner at the beginning. Outside of celebrities and fictional characters, I've seen a fat guy with a thin woman m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:13 PM

All I have to do is lay down. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:09 PM

I don't think I'll be able to lose significantly more weight because I'm not willing to change my diet any more. There are enough women in the world that like fat dudes Again, I've never seen any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:04 PM

Also, the part where it's easier for a lil guy to climb up on a big lady, but a Big Boy climbing on top of a Little Lady is going to crush her, What's stopping her from climbing on top of me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:52 PM

Unfortunately, it is true. Not for me. Yes, I've got a lot of fat in my pubic area, but not so much that my dick has disappeared. And I'm not that well endowed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:44 PM

This feels too real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:41 PM

You should focus on yourself and the opinions of people that care about you. No one other than my mother cares about me. That's just how it is. identify areas of your life you want to change and change those, because I assure you. Even if you found a relationship your inherit insecurity surrounding your weight would become a slow poison constantly forcing you to ask your partner for validation, which is incredibly unattractive. So you're saying I shouldn't date until I'm at an acceptable weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:40 PM

If that were true, I'd have no dick left, and I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:38 PM
1

The only solution is to decenter women and seek happiness and fulfillment in single life (hobbies, career, sports/fitness, friends). None of this can replace the joy of being desired by women. Most men will end up with jobs they hate, no one wants to be friends with men who can't get sex or dates from women and hobbies are a massive cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:04 PM
1

I’m not religious but I know people that feel happy, loved, and valued by their god. Believing in fairy tales helps no one. I'd rather know the truth and be unhappy than tell myself comforting lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:59 PM
3

Proof that they are having sex and the woman actually enjoys it and is sexually attracted to the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:29 AM
0

How else are we supposed to date when women have made it clear that they don't want men to approach them in public or try to be friends with them first. Sounds like a lose-lose situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:25 AM
5

They have little to no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:18 AM
2

So you're blaming me for things that happened before I was born, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:10 AM
1

So what are you saying? People should move in with their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:08 AM
1

What if you like the way you are and don't want to "improve"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:00 AM
10

It doesn't matter what you do. Women just don't want undesirable men to get partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:55 AM
2

A dog would be a better companion than her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:50 AM
1

I think generally men who even if they are fat, but have muscle, will likely have more success because there is still an underlying indicator of strength I have hardly any muscle whatsoever. My arms are just bone and fat. If I lost all the fat on my body, I'd probably weigh 120 pounds or something. When I say there's literally nothing attractive about me whatsoever, I mean it.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/25 12:02 AM
1

Who told you that? Pretty much everyone. And I see it all over the Internet. Whenever a fat person asks how they can get a date, they're always told to either A) Lose weight first or B) Date another fat person. Most thin people aren't attracted to fat people. I don't even think most fat people are attracted to each other. Whenever I see fat people in a relationship, my assumption is that they're either settling because they're lonely and no one else wants them, or they weren't fat at the beginni…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/25 09:41 PM
-1

Then why are fat people (including me) told that they have to either date other fat people or lose weight if they want to date people who aren't fat? In public, I see thin men with fat women constantly (I live in a low income rural area, so maybe that's more of a thing here). I've seen a fat man with a thin woman maybe once or twice not counting celebrities and fictional characters.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/25 12:20 AM
1

I'm not really sure how in person interactions would help much. If you ask someone in person if you're unattractive, most people are going to say no even if you are because we're taught not to be polite and not hurt anyone's feelings and there's a chance you might get punched in the face if you tell the truth. When you're anonymous and behind the screen, you can say your true feelings without fear of social backlash or retaliation.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 07:03 PM
1

It doesn't matter what you see, what matters is reality. So I'm supposed to just believe something without evidence?
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 05:39 PM
0

I don't know. These last couple days I've been slipping. Especially in the time since I first posted this. I've been looking on BBW subreddits as a way to try and condition myself to be attracted to women my size, and most of them are OF girls who are getting plowed by thin men, which again sent me into the "fat women can fuck thin men, but fat men can't get anything" mindset.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:34 AM
1

It does sound quite a bit critical though.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:32 AM
1

Yes, but keeping the pizza toppings analogy, I'd be an unpopular topic like anchovies. Sure, some people like it, but I still feel like I'd be unlikely to run into such a person. I'm trying to have faith, but I tend not to believe in things without absolute concrete evidence. Hence why I'm an atheist.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:30 AM
3

Thanks. But I still can't help but feel like no woman would ever want me as I am.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:28 AM
1

Ah you have talked to all 4 billion women, nice. I think I've gotten a big enough sample size to tell. Women desire men less than men desire women. That's pretty much fact. Hence why so many women are dropping out of the dating scene. Most men date, even big guys. As I mentioned in my other post, I almost never see this outside of celebrities and fictional characters. Whenever I see guys my size in public, they're almost always alone with no wedding rings on. If you're not dating at all then the…
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:25 AM
1

Thinking most women only find a minority of men attractive. They do. They've said so themselves. It's just that it's not the exact same men, though there's definitely overlap. Thinking your weight is keeping you from dating. It is. Almost no women are attracted to guys my size. They exist, sure. But the supply of fat guys outweighs (pun not intended) the demand.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/25 01:03 AM
1

Still very far from reality How so?
/r/ExRedPill09/12/25 09:03 PM
8

I'm trying to find a new therapist but it hasn't been an easy process. Hopefully that changes soon. I also quit OnlyFans, so that helps a bit too.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/25 08:09 PM
1

I think you’ve internalized your bullies’ message: fat is bad. Actually, of all the things people have made fun of me for over the years, I can probably count on one hand the number of times someone has made fun of my weight. But I've seen how other fat people are treated by the masses. No point in ignoring the truth. I can try and tell myself otherwise, but it won't change the fact that 99.9% of humans find fat people gross and unattractive. The fat couples I see in public are either settling o…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/25 04:26 PM
1

I bet you anything that when those heavier women got with the men, they were thinner. Maybe, maybe not. Respectfully I think you’ve internalized that you’re not attractive and it probably affects how you present to women. It didn't come from nowhere. Girls in school frequently called me ugly and any time someone even hinted at dating me, the answer was always something in the realm of "Ew! Hell no!"
/r/ExRedPill06/12/25 02:30 PM
1

Yes but, how did she react when she found out you were a virgin? Or did you lie about it?
/r/ExRedPill30/11/25 03:49 AM
1

I think there is an idea that attractive men never get rejected and that is why they are confident, but that isnt true. Of course not, but they don't get rejected nearly as much as unattractive men. I'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery than I do finding a woman who's attracted to me that I am also attracted to. they’re just confident enough to keep trying until they hit a yes It's easy to not lose hope when only, like, 1 out of every 100 women they appro…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 07:11 PM
1

If sex with fat dudes is unpleasant, then you're saying I have to wait several years until I've lost a significant amount of weight before I try?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 05:55 PM
1

How'd you lose it at that age?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/25 03:30 PM
1

That's a good point.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 05:50 PM
1

If you don't care who or what she is, why does it matter if she desires you or not? Because even though I don't care about others, I still want others to care about me. That's just the way I am. I can't help it. What else besides sex can a woman give me that I couldn't get from being friends with a man? I'm not homosexual so having sex with men is out of the question. I am heterosexual even though I wish I wasn't. I'd give anything to be asexual. But I can't. I also want to finally become a real…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 12:47 AM
1

Because there's no where else. I now see that this was a mistake. Guess I'll have to just wait 30 days until my ban in Purple Pill Debate is up.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 12:26 AM
1

If looks is all that matters, why not pay for sex? It costs too much money, I live in the US so it's illegal here (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more), I don't want to risk catching STDs and I know I wouldn't be able to enjoy sex knowing that the woman doesn't desire me and is only doing it for money.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:51 PM
1

Your attitude. Being a good little boy isn't going to make women sexually attracted to me. I'll just be inoffensive to them. Nothing more.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:46 PM
1

If you want to debate and analyze people's ideas I suggest you go to the Purple pill debate sub. Guess I'll just have to wait 30 days until my ban is lifted and go back on there then.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:44 PM
1

Both men and women who can cook, are instantly elevated to a higher place on the attractiveness scale. Not for me. I can cook for myself. Why would I care if she can? Most fat people are fat because they eat mostly fast processed food and rarely if ever cook at all. Most professional chefs aren't overweight. The only thing I'm attracted to in women is looks.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 11:05 PM
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I've no issue with fat guys and can find them attractive. You probably wouldn't find me attractive. Your definitely of fat is probably different than mine. I do have another theory too that women tend to carry fat in more "forgiving" ways so can still have a feminine shape that men find attractive, whereas men tend to carry the most fat in their bellies and faces which isn't as flattering. I said this in my OP and you're probably onto something. I unfortunately don't carry my fat well. I have a …
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 10:36 PM
-2

Nope.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:55 PM
-1

But there literally is evidence. There's a tonne of overweight, happy men with hot girlfriends. I've seen them, I know them Prove it. Show me men who are as fat as me who has a decent looking wives/girlfriends and aren't rich and famous. I'm not just going to take your word. I need evidence to believe something exists and nothing I see in real life corroborates this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:51 PM
0

I've tried therapy numerous times. It hasn't helped. I won't be happy or mentally sound unless either: A) I become good looking, rich and famous. B) I get revenge on everyone who's treated me badly over the years.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:47 PM
1

Yeah, because unlike everyone else, I don't mince words, I tell the truth and I don't lie to protect others feelings. It's pretty well known that most men would rather settle for someone they're not attracted to than be single and women (nowadays at least) would rather remain single than settle for someone they're not attracted to.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:04 PM
1

Because nothing I see in real life contradicts what I see on OnlyFans. And this isn't artificially generated content from an alternate reality (at least not yet anyway). The women on OF are real people. When I see real fat women that I find attractive having sex with men who are in much better shape than me, why should I believe I have a chance? I almost never see fat women with fat men in real life. They're mostly with skinny guys.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:46 PM
1

I personally would consider my face to be average at best. Most people on the other thread said my face didn't look that bad (some even said I was handsome), but fat is almost universally seen as unattractive. If you asked most women to choose between a guy with an ugly face but a trim, fit body vs a guy with a normal face who's fat, 99.9% would choose the former. I know I personally don't care for faces that much because very few people have truly ugly faces. It's usually only the elderly and p…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:44 PM
1

just because some other people have dehumanizing views on women doesn't make it okay. I never said it was okay. Have u considered that perhaps overweight women have in general nicer personalities and see men as people rather than just their genitals and thats why they are in relationships. Why aren't they in relationships with fat guys? And why are the fat guys mostly single? That's my question.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:37 PM
1

My fiancée is reading this and she said: most important thins are being polite, clean and keeping their word. I doubt she'd say this if she saw what I looked like.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 05:27 PM
1

What a try? Losing weight or changing my attitude?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 05:04 PM
1

And if I change my so-called attitude without losing weight, it won't increase my chances. And I don't think I can realistically get down to a weight where women I'm attracted to would want me back.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:14 PM
1

Man, there's no Chads irl, go outside. So you're saying there aren't really attractive men out there who get to bang more hot chicks than any normal man would even meet in real life? Ask women: would you like a men whose life goal is being able to fuck whoever he wants, in order to get the social status associated with having women. There are likely men out there who do and who get to fulfill their desires. Difference is they're physically attractive and/or rich and I'm not. And what am I suppos…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:13 PM
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And do you think anyone is realistically doing this? Yes. The so called Chads get to do it. Maybe not every one, but I'd say at least 99% of the time if they want to fuck a hot chick, they get what they want. Don't you see that the sheer fact that you want this makes you unnatractive to a lot of women, most women, really? No woman in real life knows I feel this way.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:04 PM
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They're real people doing real things. And like I said, the people I see in everyday life confirm this. I rarely see fat men with a woman in public while almost every day woman I see has a man skinnier than her. Why do you people not believe me?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:56 PM
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You are perseverating on looks far more than anyone in this thread. Because looks are required for me to feel sexually attracted to women. And the majority of other people are the same way unless they're asexual or demi sexual. Other people just like to downplay the importance of looks and I'm going to call out bullshit when I see it.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:53 PM
1

It's not like I'm the only person who's ever said this. It seems to be a rather common take on this platform. And I've heard men in real life say this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:49 PM
1

connecting with people enough for other people to want to hook up with them. This is something I've never been able to understand. I've never wanted to have sex with a woman because she had a good personality or a good career or education or anything like that. Obviously that stuff is important for relationships. But as I said before, I'm not really that interested in being in a relationship. Looks are the only thing that arouse me sexually. I see an attractive woman, I want to bang her. That's …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:46 PM
1

Yes. But I've been banned from the only one I've found for 30 days.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 07:05 AM
0

Again, when it's proven wrong, my mind will be changed. I see no evidence that I'm wrong. Therapy doesn't work. I've been several times before.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:59 AM
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Yes I want to leave. But I see little evidence that the redpill is wrong. I'm not just going to believe something isn't true when everything I see in my life says otherwise.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:47 AM
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No. Don't know how you figure I am.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:46 AM
0

I'd like people to convince me I'm wrong, but that hasn't happened yet.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:41 AM
1

So you're denying that people pay money to look at hot people? Why would they do that if they're not attracted to them? Why aren't 300+ pound people modeling and acting (well some are, but it's a very small number). Money doesn't lie. You think people are paying them for their acting ability? Most A-list actors actually suck at acting.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 04:01 AM
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You seem super focused on looks while trying to say others are and I find that really hilarious. Because they are focused on looks. Hence why people who look a certain way make millions of dollars acting and modeling. Everyone else lies about it though. I'm being honest.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:53 AM
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No he wasn't but he was deffo over 250. So he was 100 pounds lighter. At 250, I could do kip-ups. If he was 350 pounds back then, would she still have agreed to date him? Probably not.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:36 AM
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Maybe, but I said hetero for a reason. The men are still missing out on sex and relationships if women are dating and fucking other women. Sometimes yeah, but this just means older women get screwed. Again, older women are single more than older men because they choose to be. They choose not to pursue any more relationships once their husbands die or they get divorced. Sometimes, but that sucks for the women. How so? They get a hot man. Even if they have to share him with other women, that's pro…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:29 AM
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All you have to do is meet one person who is into you. There's two problems with this: I don't want just one woman. I want to be able to bang pretty much any woman I find attractive. I want variety, not the same old person every same old day. I can't imagine ever meeting a woman who finds me attractive, not even the unattractive women. I have a better chance of winning the lottery.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:23 AM
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Are the thin man and heavy woman having sex in front of you? Well, like I said in the OP, all those BBW women I used to follow on OnlyFans are fucking in-shape men, yet have the gall to lie to me and say they find me attractive. I point out the contradictions and they seem to get upset. I don't put up with lies or bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:18 AM
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How could almost every woman have a man but a bunch of men don't have women? Numbers don't back that up. Wasn't there a study that came out saying that over 60% of young men aged 18-29 were single while only 30% of the women in that age group were single? There are ways that that numbers can make sense: Those women are in relationships with other women. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read somewhere once that women are more likely to be attracted to the same sex than men and that gay and…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:32 AM
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I know tons of husky men with hot girlfriends. Either the guys are rich or you're overstating the attractiveness of the women they're with. My bestie who is tiny and cute is dating a 350lb guy, and he rocks and is adorable. Was he 350lb when they started dating?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 02:26 AM
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Even if men aren't wearing wedding rings even though they're married, then explain why almost every obese man I see when I'm out in public doesn't have a woman with him while almost every obese woman does, and why 99% of the time, the man is thinner than her? You might say "just because a man is alone doesn't mean he doesn't have a wife or girlfriend. Maybe she's at home or somewhere else." So you mean to tell me that all these big dudes just coincidentally happen to not have their woman with th…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:48 AM
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because things are crappy for you now, but statistically they're very likely to be better some day. Probably not. I've just about given up on life.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:34 AM
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So you're not American? That explains a lot.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:27 AM
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What losers are you hanging out with that care about this shit? I don't hang out with anyone. I don't have any friends. All I know is that I was bullied relentlessly through middle and high school because I'd never done anything with a woman (among many other things). I see movies and TV shows where adult male virgins are always mocked and portrayed as lesser human beings. People watch that stuff and begin to believe it themselves and act accordingly. pay for sex Again, I'd never enjoy sex with …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 01:03 AM
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You got banned from purple pill debate? I got banned because I violated the "No woe-is-me, incel or blackpill content" because I said in a few posts that sometimes I want to kill myself because women don't desire me. But besides that, there are simply more men comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers than women comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers. I'm not talking about just casual sex. I'm talking about relationships as well. Almost every obese man I …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:53 AM
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I live in a rural area. You probably live in an urban area. You don't know what goes on in these parts.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:49 AM
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Maybe that's true. I've never heard of this, so I don't want to say you're wrong, but I still have a hard time believing this.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:49 AM
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I want sex and the social status that being with an attractive woman grants. I've never wanted to get married or have a long-term relationship. I want to live by myself, do what I want when I want without having to answer to someone else. I along with my mother, live in my grandmother's trailer. Yep, a trailer park. I want a dog more than almost anything in the world, but I can't have one because my grandmother won't allow it. I'm tired of women telling me what I can and can't do. Why would I wa…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:47 AM
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I make $15 an hour. I can't afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for sex workers. I live in the US and sex work is illegal outside of certain parts of Nevada. I don't want to risk getting arrested. Sure, I could travel to a place where it is legal, but that will cost even more money that I don't have. I don't want to risk catching STDs. I know I wouldn't enjoy sex knowing that she doesn't actually desire me and is only doing it for money. Even back when I was using OnlyFans, I'd send t…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:41 AM
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Would it surprise you to know that studies show men are much more likely to become obese after getting married? That's the point. They become obese after they get married. If they're single and already obese, they're shit out of luck.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:37 AM
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So masturbate. I do. It's not the same. I want to know what ass and titties feel like. Maybe focus a little less on women and sex. Kind of hard to do when they're everywhere.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:35 AM
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A lot. Like I said, I live in a low income rural area. People in these areas are more likely to be morbidly obese.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:18 AM
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So pay for it. I don't make enough money to pay for it. It's illegal where I am (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more money), I don't want to risk catching STDs and I could never enjoy the sex because I know she doesn't actually desire me and is just doing it for money. I don’t want a relationship because that’s too much work. I don't want a relationship because there's no woman on the planet I could put up with living in my house, seeing 24/7 until death. I want to li…
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:18 AM
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If you're talking about this threadthis thread, no. The one I'm referring to was posted a day ago and got deleted by the mods since apparently those types of posts are against the rules. And like I said, I've been over 300 pounds since I was in my teens. It's definitely my weight.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:14 AM
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but it might be worth knowing that there's a certain way in which fatter guys can make sex feel better that I'm gonna let you figure out for yourself. Some comments I've seen from women who have been asked if they would have sex with a fat man: "I don't want a man who has bigger tits than me" "Fat men sweat more, which is gross" "They often have ED and even if they don't, they don't have the stamina to last long or be exciting" "All but an inch or two of their dicks are buried under pubic fat."
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:11 AM
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You missed my point. Even when my personality was decent, girls still weren't attracted to me and saw me as nothing more than a friend or acquaintance. Why would I think that doing any of that stuff, which I have done before and has had no effect on me whatsoever, would increase my chances of getting laid?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 12:08 AM
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I've been a skinny woman with a fat boyfriend, and we found each other attractive. How fat are we talking? Skinny but with no visible abs? "Dad-bod" or full on obese? Because I never see the latter men with wives or girlfriends.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:59 PM
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Did they actually tell you that it was 'over'. Like actually used those words? Yes. At least two of them outright said "It's over". The majority opinion was "you have basically no chance if you don't lose weight." And one bitch on there kept constantly mentioning how repulsive I was and of the few who said I was attractive as I am, she'd reply that they're lying and to stop giving me false hope.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:56 PM
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You got downvoted to oblivion by the entire other thread because all you did was tell people you dont want to put in any work, you just deserve women's affection by existing. You think I care about down votes? I've seen dudes who make me look a like a male model who were still able to get sex and romance. If they can do it, why can't I? And no, their personalities aren't anything amazing either. Getting myself to a point where I'm attractive to women is just too much work. It's overwhelming. I'l…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:53 PM
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Because he, and almost every other person in r/virgin, were saying that it was over and I had no chance unless I lose weight.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:51 PM
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Girls liked my personality in school, but any time even a hint of dating me came up, the response was some variation of "Ew!" I'll admit my personality has taken a turn for the worst due to my mental health declining further, but I don't talk to women anymore beyond necessary interactions at work, so they can't know me well enough to know my personality.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:50 PM
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Same goddamn thing. You're telling me I'm not good enough as I am.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:41 PM
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Did you even read this part from my last reply? I was going to add that to my OP but I don't seem to be able to edit on mobile. And I highly doubt some 400-500 pound woman gained hundreds of pounds from pregnancy.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:40 PM
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And you aren't unloveable or undateable if you're fat. I recognize your username. You were one of the ones on r/virgin telling me I had no chance unless I lose weight. Backed up by this: You can overcome it, either by losing the weight or increasing your attractiveness in other areas. You're basically saying I have to lose weight if I want any sexual or romantic experience. Even if I get down to a healthy weight, I'll still have an ugly body due to all the stretch marks and loose skin. So I'll s…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:33 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:29 PM
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A. Many women gain weight as the result of pregnancy. I was going to add that to my OP but I don't seem to be able to edit on mobile. Still doesn't explain all cases of this. Nor does it explain why fat men don't have partners. B. have you considered that most women aren’t looking for casual sex? They aren't in relationships with fat men either. Like I said before, almost all fat dudes I see in public do not have women with them nor have wedding rings on. On the rare occasions I see a fat man wi…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:26 PM
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Lot's of women do not care about a man being a virgin. Yes they do. I see it constantly on Reddit. "I want someone with experience." "I don't want to have to teach a man how to have sex." "He's probably mentally ill and will stalk, rape or kill me." "He's not a real man." Doesn't help that I'm almost 30 and am not only a virgin, but have never gone on a date or even gotten my first kiss. If I was below 25, I'd think I might still have a chance, but I'm well past the age where 99.9% of women are …
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 10:27 PM
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I'm a virgin and probably always will be unless I pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:06 PM
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Can't speak for all men, but I definitely don't want monogamy. I'd get sick of being around the same old person every same old day. I like variety. I see a hot woman, I want to smash. None of that's going to happen of course, but I can dream I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:00 PM
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Because I'm sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:07 PM
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Kind of like how women look down on men in low income jobs like fast food or retail, but still go to those places to get their services.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:43 AM
2

That is true. And that "compassion" is running out quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 02:24 AM

My dad pretty much raped my mother. They never loved, liked or even were attracted to each other. My mom says he used to say she's so ugly she'd back lightning up a tree. Whatever the hell that means. Besides, I am not my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:52 AM

It doesn't matter that it's not the majority of a relationship. Unless you're both aromantic asexuals, all that stuff has to be done at some point. What am I supposed to do? Take a bottle of Viagra and wear a blindfold when we gotta fuck? Avoid kissing and touching her? That'd be no different than living with a friend or a roommate. Is that really what relationships between the ugly are like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:32 AM

But how can they stand to touch, kiss or have sex with each other? I couldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:20 AM

It's hard to flirt when women hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:00 AM

Attraction cannot be controlled. I can't make myself attracted to unattractive women just because I'm also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:00 AM

I've been legitimately diagnosed by a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 12:57 AM
3

Just because a very small minority of women are able to be worn down into liking men they're not physically attracted to doesn't mean most will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:57 PM
1

A rare honest woman. Yeah, they settled and they'll say whatever they can to justify it (to themselves if no one else) until they finally can't take it anymore and file for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:16 PM

There are some types of men that almost no women are attracted to. Fat guys, bald guys, poor guys, guys with autism. And I'm sadly all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:17 PM
1

What the men here really want is validation. Well, it's not our fault that no one likes or respects men who don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:21 PM
1

You're a woman. It's easier for you to go without sex because you don't have testosterone. Not as much as men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:13 PM
1

They do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:02 PM
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Women do it all the time. Hence dead bedrooms. Sometimes they go on dates just to get a free meal. Sometimes they "give a guy a chance" because he has a good personality but isn't physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:48 PM
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Notice no women are denying this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:44 PM
1

So what? I should just be completely okay with the fact that I'll never have sex? Just grin and bear it, huh? Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:08 PM
1

Seriously, you’re using your personal hobbies as the measure for whether men and women have anything in common. I am a man. And it's pretty common knowledge that most men and women have completely different interests. Men's interests: Sports, cars, eating meat, drinking beer, hunting, woodcarving, weightlifting, video games, comic books, science fiction, anime. Women's interests: Shopping, fashion, cooking, baking, gardening, scrapbooking, yoga, pilates, sewing, reality TV, social media. Hobbies…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:35 PM
2

Easier said than done, my friend. Maybe men will evolve out of their need for sex, but that won't happen in our lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:30 PM
2

No one needs sex. It’s a want. Then why do we constantly crave it? Friends are companions. Pets are companions. Emotional needs can be fulfilled outside of romantic relationships. It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:24 PM
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They don't know the difference between actual attraction and chemistry and sexual arousal. So men are supposed to have relationships with women they're not sexually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:04 PM
0

That's impossible. Men need sex and companionship. All humans do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:44 AM
1

Keep looking and hoping. Pointless. Change what you’re attracted to. That's impossible. Attraction cannot be controlled. Work on yourself to be attractive to those women. Too much time, too much work, and there are things I can't change. Don’t date. Looks like I'll have to just suffer until death then. I hope it comes quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:16 AM
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Date the people who meet your standards that also want to date you. They don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:12 AM
1

What other choice do you have when women you do like would never like you? Be alone forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:11 AM
1

If you don’t want to date women who do, or have done xyz, don’t date women who do, or have done, xyz. It’s really that simple. So date unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:09 AM
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Society will never see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:02 AM
1

Here’s the thing though, we’re not cavemen. Our brains don't know that. The last few centuries of modern development are a pimple on a hamster's ass compared to the many thousands of years we spent in the jungle. Society has changed very rapidly and our brains haven't caught up to it. Men and women have a shit ton in common Not really. Men and women don't usually have the same interests, hobbies or life experiences. There are exceptions, but they're rare. Almost no women on Earth share anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:51 AM
2

It is for low income men. And I'm one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:19 AM
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Men and women have nothing in common. Interacting with women feels unnatural. Do you really think cavemen and women were interacting with each other outside of fucking? Most likely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:45 PM
4

Congratulations, you're an extremely rare outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:41 PM
1

Second, there are lots of stay at home dads and husbands while the woman works. It's becoming more mainstream. They are still a very small minority. Most women cannot love or respect a man who doesn't make any money or even less money than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:38 PM
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Some of you act like relationships are adversarial. They are. Men and women are natural enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:36 PM
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Cow shit may stink less than horseshit, but they're both shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:33 PM
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Lack of self awareness Translation: Men don't worship the ground women walk on and find them flawless. unhealthy obsessions Translation: He plays video games and I don't like that. and not seeing women as equal humans with wants, desires, interests, etc. Translation: Male sexuality is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:35 PM
3

Plenty of men are likeable. They're liked by other men. Maybe the problem is that women just don't like men and vice versa. Outside of sex and romance, men usually hang around other men and women usually hang around other women. Men and women have nothing in common. Men want women to act like men and women want men to act like women. That's never going to happen. Which is why I think society would be much better off being gender segregated, with children only born via artificial insemination. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:59 PM
4

Exactly. Women don't want to hear about men's problems, they want us to go pay someone to pretend to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:41 PM
1

I'm sure other stuff like exercising, cooking, certain TV shows or what have you could make for good mutual interests. Even that's rare. Women are more likely to exercise than men (and even among those who do exercise, they tend to favor different kinds of exercise. Women like things like cardio, yoga, pilates. Men usually prioritize weightlifting or martial arts), women usually enjoy cooking more than men, and men and women don't usually watch the same TV Shows and movies. Most men and women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:46 PM
5

That'll likely never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:38 PM
15

At least 80% of men would be single virgins forever in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 06:49 PM
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Yeah it is difficult because women are damn near impossible to satisfy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:55 PM
-2

Go outside and you'll see a 5'2" latino man with charisma have zero issues dating/having a family because of the charisma they bring. Literally never seen this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:52 PM
0

You're talking like a big percentage of the population is absolutely undesirable. They are. Touch grass and look outside, people are dating all kinds of people and usually within their league. Their leagues are gross and most of them are just settling because it's the best they can do. There's no way they could actually be attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:51 PM
4

Exactly. Women don't like me. I've known that for a long time, so I just don't speak to them except on the exceedingly rare occasions they speak to me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:21 PM
5

This may have been true a few decades ago, but now not so much. More and more women are dropping out of dating because men aren't attractive enough for them, resulting in many men who are involuntarily single/celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:29 PM
1

when in an ideal scenario he'd date a girl who games and she'd date a guy who sows. Sure, that's ideal but unrealistic. Most women hate video games and most men hate sewing. Those hobbies are largely gender segregated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:23 PM
-4

I'm tired of men who can't get laid pretending like the answer to their sexual desires being unfulfilled is to cause trauma to women. It's not. Then what is the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:15 PM
1

So why do you assume other people will? Because I'm an outlier. I'm not like "normal" people. Have you actually seen men treat each other like this in real life or is your view all based on what you see in movies? It's what I experienced firsthand throughout middle school and high school. Movies just confirmed what I already knew. If a guy is my friend it's because he's kind, funny, intelligent, disciplined etc all of those respectable characteristics don't suddenly disappear because some chicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:27 AM

Do you have family, friends? Those ppl love you (yeah its not romantic love, but its still love.) I have no friends and family love doesn't count because they're pretty much required to love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:08 AM

Well, what I'm I suppose to believe other than the truth: which is that I'm a worthless loser who doesn't deserve to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:07 AM

then you can take the feedback and make yourself better Why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:05 AM

It actually would, because were (the individual) the only person we'll ever truly 'have,' and the limited time we get to spend up in our noggins is a whole lot more tolerable if you dont hate yourself. So what? You're saying I have to just accept that nobody loves me and I'll always be alone and find some way to deal with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:01 AM

are people telling her she's not great? I'm talking about myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:56 PM

Thinking you're great when everyone else tells you otherwise is not a virtue, it's being delusional. So I accepted the truth about myself long ago. No amount of thinking I'm great will mean jack shit if no one else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:51 PM
3

If you se the type of man who would judge a friend if he was a virgin you should question why that is. Because we are constantly told that male virgins are losers, lesser human beings. It's all over the media. People watch that shit and behave accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:49 PM

You just sound arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:42 PM

Everyone needs external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:50 PM
3

does a man lose his job or lose his friends once people find out he's a virgin? His job? Maybe not. His friends? Possibility. At best, his friends will stop respecting him and treat him like a kid brother they have to babysit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:45 PM
1

If you’re a good person, women will generally be romantically involved with you. Not true. You have to be physically attractive for them to want to be involved with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:22 AM
1

Not really a genre per se. I'm currently writing a story about two fictional women pro wrestlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:36 PM
6

No. No friends. No hobbies other than TV and video games. I write, but nothing is ever going to come of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:37 AM
5

Believe it or not, the vast majority of people exercise regularly, refrain from eating like shit all the time, You must not be American. In the United States, around 70% of the population is overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:37 AM
2

If you're fat and never shower it's not going to do you much good to just work on personality Depends on who you're wanting to date and how much you're required to change. If you're okay dating women who are as fat as you are, losing weight won't accomplish much, and if you're really obese, losing weight isn't really going to make you more attractive due to all the loose skin (which can only be removed surgically and will leave behind more ugly scars) and stretch marks (which are permanent) you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:14 AM
12

Yes I am. But at the same time, I'm not too worried about it because I'll most likely be dead by 40 or 50. Either due to weight related problems or possible self-deletion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:44 AM
7

Self-improvement is really only useful if you're average or below average and want to date above average women. And even then, it's not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:37 PM
0

None of that stuff interests me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:49 PM
-4

We also know that humans are a social species, and there is nothing really stopping you from learning how to make friends except you. You've got this. Making friends as an adult is damn near impossible. Everyone your age either already has plenty of friends and don't want any more, or they're married with kids and get their social needs met that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:11 PM
0

Everybody is replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:54 PM
1

You think it's a bad thing that people aren't consuming poison?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:56 PM

But funny physically unattractive men get nothing unless they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:37 PM

It means you're ugly to them. And there are some men who no one will find attractive and I am one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:56 PM
1

Someone not being attracted to you =/= ugly. Of course it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:58 PM
1

The majority of men can't be happy single. It just isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:36 AM
2

But you can't force yourself to be attracted to people you aren't attracted to. That would just result in an unhappy sexless relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:31 AM
1

I've never told women to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:20 PM
4

I don't know. I keep asking the same question to others when they tell me to make myself attracted to women I'm not attracted to. I either get met with radio silence or some stupid shit like "Stop watching porn, you'll become attracted to her once you get to know her, turn off the lights, everyone is a ten in the dark, you're standards will lower automatically when you get desperate enough" Most people seem to believe that attraction can be controlled. It can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:12 PM
1

But lowering standards? Can you suggest a clear step by step proccess how a woman can make herelf attracted to someone she’s not attracted to? I don’t think it’s as easy to change a feeling compared to a behavior. Yet you women are constantly telling us our standards are too high and to lower them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:00 PM
7

I've seen plenty of 500 pound women with skinny, nice looking dudes. Never seen the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:57 PM
9

Men being able to exist outside gender norms No we're not. Men are still expected to pay for dates. Men are still expected to make more money than women. Men are still expected to be physically stronger than women. Men are still expected to have as much sex as possible and not be dateless kissless virgins. None of the rest of that shit benefits me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:40 PM
5

Secondly, feminism has done more for men by accident than red pill (or any of the manosphere) has ever done on purpose. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:32 PM
5

That's how humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:28 PM
6

Then why be one?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:18 PM
8

If the shoe fits...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:16 PM
1

At least you admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:25 PM
3

Hit the nail right on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 03:30 PM
1

What's likable about a single mother? A single mother can never love a man the way a woman without children can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:57 AM
1

Why would anyone choose to be with a single mother over a woman with no children? What qualities could she offer that couldn't easily be found in a woman who has no kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:51 AM
2

’m almost 40 and have never heard any women say, “I sure do hope I can have sex with an ugly guy! 😍” So you're admitting that ugly men should not even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:27 AM
2

I'm not a zoophile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:19 AM
8

I always thought "she's not yours, it's just your turn" referred to women keeping their options open even though they're in a relationship. That's the way I always interpreted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:18 AM
8

Then why are women always telling men to lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:08 AM
1

why would you publicly post and upvote something so extremely unattractive? Because of the anonymity. Stop pushing the women you want away from you! The women we want will never want us even if we're good little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:04 AM
1

I sometimes see a man with his fat and/or ugly wife. And I think there’s no way he’s attracted to her. I feel exactly the same way. I can't comprehend how anyone could be attracted to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:02 AM
0

Keep him dry for months to check if he stays. No man would stay for that. And who could blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:58 AM
4

Some men have no other choice. It's either women you're not attracted to or none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:53 AM
1

Ah yes, where he “loves” his wife the same way he loves his dog: he only barely tolerates her if she’s groveling, and he is impressed with her when she doesn’t poop on the rug. That's insulting. To dogs. I'd rather have the dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:51 AM
7

You’re assuming all men are garbage. It's not my assumption. I constantly see comments from women, even on this very sub, saying that the vast majority of men are garbage and only a minority are worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:20 PM
17

As the saying goes, dating for men is like trying to find clean water in a desert, dating for women is like trying to find clean water in a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:03 PM
3

They're not assumptions. That's how humans operate unless they're asexual or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:17 PM
3

Am I really wrong though? If women don't like how you look, "personality" does Jack shit. At best, they'll want to be your friend, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:09 PM
3

Like there's really a difference between a 0% chance and a .00000000000001% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:58 PM
0

people arent interchangeable Why not? Most people are basically identical apart from one or two traits. Truly unique people are rare and are usually social outcasts. why would i prefer a stranger, even if he was the most handsome and charming man ever, to a man i deeply trust and built a relationship with? Because it's a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:17 PM
1

You mean to tell me that if you met a man who had basically the same personality as your husband but was far better looking, you wouldn't trade up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:12 PM
1

What other choice do we have?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:11 PM
1

Better than being with someone you had to wear down to submission for her to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:50 AM
0

Some of us only have libido and have little or no need for partnership/love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:48 AM
3

We do behave like that. We lack the looks. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:40 AM
1

Although men would complain about this too because it’s not “primal desire”. Because it's demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:35 AM
0

Physically unattractive men who also are terrible at conversation will have even less luck. Physically unattractive men who are good at conversation are still out of luck because women won't want to talk to him is he isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:33 AM
2

Not if he's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:32 AM
0

Women often expect the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:20 AM
1

Like it or not, most men cannot be happy without a woman. That's just how it is. Studies have shown that married men are happier than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:18 AM
1

Below average men are the ones who struggle. Which is why they have to settle for whoever will have them or be single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:10 AM
1

You've just never met anyone better. But they're out there. They always are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:08 AM
5

Because even with "self-improvement", most men will never be 10s and for some of us, the amount of effort it takes to get there isn't worth it. And if you're not a 10 yourself, you can't get a 10 woman unless you're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:47 PM
3

25 or 30. I think 25 is when it starts to become unlikely and by 30 it's pretty much impossible without resorting to sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:47 AM
2

Women arent attracted to children like men are. So women in their 20s are children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:32 PM
2

Yeah, it's evident that they all agree with these statements. And they wonder why more and more men are becoming misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:19 PM
6

That's not an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:54 PM
1

Why would I want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:59 AM
7

How can you refute what I'm saying when most average men have girlfriends and wives who love them? Because most of those couples got together before online dating existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:15 AM
11

Why do you keep saying the same shit over and over? I didn't believe you the first time. What make you think I'll believe it the five millionth time? You are wrong. I'm too fat and ugly to get any matches online. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:04 AM
14

No they don't. The data says otherwise. And I'm not average. I'm below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:43 AM
17

Doesn't work. Doesn't fix your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:42 AM
21

Only if you're Chad. The other 80% of men get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:41 AM
2

There is a point where that man with the good personality is not attractive enough for his good personality to overcome his looks. So we're doomed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:34 AM
1

I'm sure men also think this way when it comes to women, right? No. At least I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:15 AM
7

Doesn't matter. I know I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:10 AM
4

So you admit I'm right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:06 AM
6

Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:00 AM
11

wehre the hell you should talk to woman? Online dating. Which is unsuccessful for 80% of men. Women don't want us to succeed. They just want us to shut up and leave women alone. We do and they get mad. It's impossible to make a woman happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:27 AM
11

Men who are over a certain age who have never had sex are often viewed with suspicion. I've seen people accuse them of being gay, rapists, pedophiles, criminally insane. Guys who are about to commit mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:26 AM
3

Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:24 AM
12

Virgins are not compared to abusers and murderers in any circumstance and conversation I don’t know what it is you’re seeing. Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:23 AM
1

It doesn't matter. You've already decided I'm the bad guy. I'm tired of being blamed by women for the actions of a minority. Most men do not beat, rape and kill women. But you women blame all of us for it. We can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:01 AM
10

So men should just avoid women altogether right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:34 PM
0

I never said that. Your bias against men is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:31 PM
2

It's not sexism. It's the truth. Men and women have nothing in common and no reason to interact outside of sex and romance. What can women offer men that they can't get from their own gender and vice versa with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:27 PM
22

Exactly. Personality doesn't make up for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:19 PM
2

Most Incels don't really want sex. It doesn't matter. Sex, romantic love, platonic love, even basic decency from women is unattainable for them. So they should just remove women from their lives and look to other men for comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:20 PM
7

So, you refuse to do anything for men, but expect men to do for you? Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:19 PM
9

Paying for it is our only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:17 PM
4

No they're not. They're awesome. Women and men have nothing in common. Outside of sex and romance, men usually interact with other men and women usually interact with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:58 PM
6

No one says this. Yes they do. Men confuse "i won't have sex with you to solve your loneliness" with "i don't care about men's problems." Feminists outright say they don't care about men's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:58 PM
1

Women have told me this my whole life. I didn't come to this conclusion myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:56 PM
9

I see it constantly. "Women don't need men" "Men are all violent, abusive rapists" "We don't care about men's problems. Men created their problems, they can solve them themselves" Not just on here, but on many female orientated subs. We as men need to accept that we're on our own. Remove women from your life they way they do with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:22 PM
3

But I don't think friends and family would entirely solve it because incels want to feel romantically attractive. Not everyone gets to have sex and romance. It is what it is. All we can do is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:19 PM
2

No. I'm too ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:19 PM
9

Women should help in the same way men should help other men They won't. Women have nothing but contempt for men. I see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:53 PM
12

Men need to support other men. That's how we fix it. Women aren't going to do shit for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:38 PM
1

To help other people and reduce human suffering. A lot of humans deserve to suffer and you can't end all suffering in the world. To not feel hopeless in the face of injustice. You wasting time isn't going to fix the problems in society. To socialize with like-minded individuals. You can do that anywhere. To be useful. I don't like being used. I don't want to be slaves for people who couldn't care less about me. To learn new skills. Take a class. To make good use of the time I have. I'd rather pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:32 PM
2

Everyone outside the 20% is settling because they can't do any better. Only the top 20% get the partners they truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:24 PM
3

“You’re not exactly revolting but the idea that anyone could find you romantically attractive is hilarious.” LOL Couldn't have said it better myself. "There's someone out there who'll find you attractive...just not me or any women I can think of."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:19 PM
5

Adults aren't really any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:14 PM
7

Why act any other way when it's not going to benefit us? I've never said they're missing out on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:50 PM
5

I'm saying even if we did have "good" personalities, women still wouldn't be attracted to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:33 PM
2

And of course, many single moms would be thrilled to co-parent with a guy who is gainfully-employed, detailed oriented, and boasts a nice, clean slate for a romantic past. So my only option is to get a woman a green card or be a single mother's live-in babysitter. Fuck that. I'm not taking care of someone else's kids. I don't even want kids myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:36 PM
6

And yet in real life it’s so rare seeing that? Exactly. Outside of celebrities and fictional characters, this almost never happens. Good looking men date good looking women. Average men date average women. Ugly men, if they can get a date at all, date ugly women. The majority of couples are looksmatched. The few who aren't is usually either for money, or the couples have been together for a long time, were looksmatched at the beginning, but one person aged badly or got fat while the other didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:34 PM
5

They are cruel. And the women on here are all saints lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:30 PM
6

But personality compensates No it doesn't. It'll just make women put you in the friendzone. They still won't want to date or fuck us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:29 PM
2

Why would anyone who has a full time job want to do even more work that they don't even get paid for?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:28 PM
3

There's nothing we can offer because women won't want us regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:25 PM
6

I'm an atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:09 PM
6

It's peak delusion to think that people care about your sex life. Humans are biologically wired to hate and fear those who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:15 AM
13

Honestly, people need to start warning young men what would happen if they never lost their virginity That's not going to help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:10 AM
15

As a woman who prefers a virgin over a man whore That's not saying much. That's like saying "I'd prefer a cow shit sandwich over a horse shit sandwich". They're both still shit. A man who is a virgin by choice, regardless of age is extremely attractive because it shows a certain level of discipline. Most male virgins are not virgins by choice. And even if they were, most people would still look down on him unless he was asexual or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:07 AM
4

Again, why respond if there is no solution. Just say "it's over" and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:03 AM
2

tbh youre already at the bottom of the totem pole, most options older virgins have are going to bring passionless sex cause you are new to it and the only women who more likely to accept it are low value women looking for stability. So it's a lose-lose situation no matter what I do. I pay for sex, women won't want me. I don't pay for sex and remain a virgin, women still won't want me. So why bother doing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:59 PM
7

There's no real solution to be had. Then why bother responding? To boost your ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:55 PM
2

But you'll have your foot in the door, and you wont be completely in the dark How? You don't become good at driving a car by doing it once. You have to do it continuously to get good at it. It took me a long time to get good at driving, I only got my driver's license a year ago right before I turned 29. Having sex with a sex worker once isn't going to make you good enough in bed to please a woman who has decades more experience than you. So you have to keep getting more hookers (since you're sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:34 PM
17

Women who are still virgins/ single into their thirties get called "cat ladies" or "old maids" Wrong. Women who don't get married or have kids are called "cat ladies" and "old maids". Nothing to do with virginity. Far fewer women are virgins at that age than men, and society doesn't treat them nearly as badly as virgin men. For women, it's okay to not have sex, but she better not be single. For men, it's okay to be single, but he better be having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:20 PM
24

I think nowadays you still have some leeway into your early twenties. But I'd say if you make it to 25 (and especially 30) without having your cherry popped, it's game over for you unless you pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:18 PM
7

If women not picking you is the bad thing, then yes, something within your control is the issue. No. The bad thing is what men do you when they find out you've never had any romantic/sexual experience. If you talk to women the way you speak to me here, that could likely be the reason. I don't talk to women anymore unless I have to at work. Women don't want men who look like me talking to them so I don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:16 PM
7

I said, "everyone doesn't make fun". Because everyone doesn't. You're not a 30-year-old male virgin. You don't know any 30-year-old male virgins. So you have no right to act like you know how people treat us better than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:48 PM
5

"I've never seen it, so it doesn't happen." We've had this conversation many times. You don't believe a word I say, I don't believe a word you say. So let's just stop now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:31 PM
5

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:30 PM
3

The reward isn't worth it. How is wasting lots of money on passionless sex with a woman who hates me rewarding? Sure, I'll no longer be a virgin, but people still won't like or respect me. I still won't be genuinely desired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:29 PM
10

She won’t, because she is not actively scanning for signs of virginity It doesn't matter if she's scanning or not. The truth always comes out. And I'm not just talking about potential sex partners. Guy friends will also think you're abnormal and not want to be around you if they know you're a virgin, if not outright bully you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:28 PM
11

I beg to differ. You're wasting your time with her. I've had this discussion with her many times. In her eyes, everything bad that happens to us is our fault. No one makes fun of virgins, we create those fantasies in our heads, or we hang out with the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:26 PM
12

Why do you listen to someone who is making fun of you? Because everyone makes fun of virgins and you can't ignore everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:50 PM
3

What the hell's a sex surrogate? I doubt something like that even exists where I am. And paying for sex doesn't solve the problem of not being wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:50 PM
2

The travel costs even more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:47 PM
8

If that were the case, it'd have happened by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:46 PM
7

Thinking it's weird is bad enough. No one wants to be around weird people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:42 PM
4

For $300, the woman is either super ugly, has STDs, is an undercover cop or transgender. The ones in my area cost upwards of $500 and the ones who are actually attractive are in the thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:30 PM
13

Then why do they make fun of virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:28 PM
11

It's like a rich person telling a poor person "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:04 PM
6

Unfortunately I probably wouldn't. I don't lie, even in situations where I probably should. Lying would just make things worse. Most people aren't good liars and the truth always comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:00 PM
6

How that any different than going out with your girlfriends? Or guy friends hanging out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:56 PM
3

I can't afford to pay for it, don't want to risk getting arrested or catching STDs, I'd never enjoy sex with a woman who doesn't want me and I'd be viewed even lower by society if I resorted to paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 PM
11

Bullshit. Anyone who's around you long enough will find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:52 PM
27

Say “I’m uncomfortable discussing this, Dead giveaway that you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:51 PM
2

I never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:47 PM
22

So basically "shut up and deal with it".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:47 PM
8

I don't tell people in real life. I'm talking about the assholes on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:46 PM
3

You apparently missed the part where I said I can't afford it. If I can't afford to travel to Nevada, how could I afford to travel to Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:44 PM
18

Exactly. We're losers if we pay for sex and losers if we don't. Women and society will hate us no matter what we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:41 PM
5

That change won't happen for a long time. Probably not until long after we're all dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:39 PM
5

I'm American. It's not legal or acceptable here (it's legal in some parts of Nevada, but that's it). And I can't afford to travel to a place where it is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:36 PM
19

Like just Go clap some cheeks and get it out ur system, fuck. If that were an option, we wouldn't be in our current predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:32 PM
20

So what are we supposed to do about it? You can't get sex without experience, can't get experience without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:26 PM
19

And everyone will still think less of you for doing it. "You cheated". "You took the easy way". "All sex workers are victims of human trafficking." "You paid a woman to rape her". And so on and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:22 PM
14

I know. I bring this up constantly all the time and every time people on here tell me it's not true, that I'm making stuff up and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:01 PM
1

When you put yourselves in women’s shoes, try to think of their perspective. Lol. That's hilarious. People can't understand what they haven't experienced themselves. Women don't know what it's like to be a man, so their opinions on men are worthless. They just make stuff up to make themselves feel good. Women's perspective boils down to one thing "Men bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:29 PM
5

Others who are already physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:20 PM
1

Ableism I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:07 PM
4

"It worked for me, so it'll work for everyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:05 PM
9

Changing your personality won't make women want to fuck you if you're not good looking enough. It'll just make them want to be friends with you. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:43 PM
1

Guess I'm out of luck then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:13 AM
1

What if that one woman lives in a part of the world you'll never visit? Or is too old/young for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:04 AM
0

Women lie about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 AM
1

This is the essence of "be yourself". And if "yourself" is not attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:54 AM
1

Yes. Still doesn't stop me from wanting to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:53 AM
-1

What about below average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:35 PM
2

The point is that women are attracted to those nonphysical traits, and most of them you can be developed and improved with practice. But it won't make you more attractive if you don't already have the looks. At best, it'll just result in more women putting you in the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:24 PM
-2

Nah, there are tons of average looking guys who punch well above their weight because of their exceptional charisma, humor, confidence, and assertiveness. They are a small minority. Most average men end up with average (or below average) women. Most couples are looksmatched and on the rare occasions men are able to date above their league, it's because his famous and/or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:09 PM
5

What is "actual partnership" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:00 PM
1

He could have just left or broken up, we weren’t living together or had any finances tangled up. There you go. Talking about yourself again. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the person I originally responded to, who has still not responded back. I’m not sure why you feel the need to defend men you’ve never even met or know exist Because I don't like seeing ugly men get stepped on and used by women. If the woman is so high and mighty and thinks she's doing him a favor by being with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:11 PM
2

But I have the same experience as the other person All you know is that the guy cheated. You don't know why he cheated on the other woman. You just fill in the blanks and assume the worst because it's a man and "men bad". The way she's writing clearly demonstrates that she views herself as above him. Like he should be happy that any woman dare give him a chance. She sounds like a real catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:52 PM
7

Sounds like this was a "give an ugly guy I'm not attracted to a chance" situation where she never wanted him to begin with. If that's the case, who can blame him? The fact that he cheated with a less attractive woman is also telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:02 PM

The fact that you aren't denying it is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:01 PM
9

They way you're talking about him makes it clear that you never liked him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:17 PM
17

He probably realized you never actually liked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:51 PM
10

Doesn't sound like you ever liked him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 12:16 PM
1

So I'm supposed to just accept that they got off scot-free and get to live happy lives while I suffer? Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:52 PM
2

But they got away with treating me badly. I can't deal with that. I can't deal with the fact that I didn't beat the everloving shit out of them like I should have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:44 PM
3

No one on the left would say that about him. Ah, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. I'm a socialist, so by definition, I am a leftist whether you agree with it or not. Left and right on the political spectrum refers to ones views on economic policy. Those on the left are in favor of socialism or communism while those on the right favor capitalism. I can feel bad for the guy while still not supporting his actions. A lot of people feel the same about Chris Benoit (look him up if you don't know.) Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:15 PM
4

No I can't. The only way I'll get over it is to get revenge. I can't handle the fact that they treated me the way they did and faced no consequences for it while I suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 11:11 PM
3

I've never visited an incel forum in my life. And while I do somewhat sympathize with Elliot Rodger, I absolutely do not condone his actions. And I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:46 PM
2

Democrats are more likely to be single and childless while Republicans are more likely to be paired up and having kids. Democrats are not left wing. They are less extreme right wingers than Republicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:42 PM
7

But these guys act like they got abused and raped Some of us actually were. But you don't care about that because "we deserved it" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:23 PM
1

Which is why I don't see the point in being friends with women when they don't offer anything that a guy friend doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:16 PM
5

I'm not right wing and I pretty much fit the definition of an incel, even though I refuse to identify as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:02 PM
3

Everything's tiny when you're the size of the Grand Canyon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:58 PM
2

And here's something for you too🖕
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:55 PM
1

I don't plan to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:53 PM
1

Again, I don't give a fuck about relationships. Relationships are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:49 PM
1

I don't think I ever maintained a physical attraction to anyone I thought was hot, but couldn't hold an enjoyable conversation with. Why? Sex doesn't require talking. I have developed a physical attraction to way more people after getting to know them and enjoying their company. Never happened to me. At best, I like their personality, but still could never get hard for them or desire them to even touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:48 PM
2

A "looking for fun" date still involves talking to the woman and having friendly banter talking about trips, life, work, etc. Why would I care about any of that shit? I just want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:42 PM
3

And that's somehow a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:36 PM
2

which is pretty damping for so-called "lonely" people How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:35 PM
3

Plenty of people suck as a person and still have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:33 PM
1

They usually smell like that when they haven't cleaned themselves well, lol. And any woman who'd be willing to let me smash probably isn't clean down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:32 PM
2

If you're already at zero, what difference does -100 make?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:14 PM
2

Now imagine being ugly and trying to approach a woman for sex, yet you don’t even know how to strike up friendly conversation. Being ugly and knowing how to talk to women still won't get you any results because women will never see ugly men as more than a friend. So why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:09 PM
0

Sorry. It is what it is. When women offer something that men cannot that isn't sex, maybe I'll consider having them in my life. Until then, I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:07 PM
0

Like you don’t want to be touched by anyone. I don't like when women I'm not attracted to or men touch me. Attractive women touching me I can handle. Or is it just your libido is intact but you don’t actually want sex? I'm beginning to think this might be the problem. I mainly want sex for status reasons. I mean, I do want to know what titties and ass feel like, but vaginas kind of gross me out (and before you accuse me of being gay, I don't like dicks either.) especially when they're all wet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:06 PM
2

you ever felt any desire that goes beyond short-term physical, or beyond your genetic legacy? I don't know what you mean by "genetic legacy". If you mean wanting children, not really. As for "short term physical", I guess not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:00 PM
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Because I don't want a relationship. I just want sex. And your ability to obtain casual sex is based almost entirely on your physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:58 PM
2

Unfortunately yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:49 PM
0

So because I'm a practical person, that somehow means I lack personal responsibility? I have a Toyota Corolla. Why would I want another Toyota Corolla that's exactly the same as the one I have, only that it's a different color?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:48 PM
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I don't know about trauma. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's part of my autism. But that wouldn't explain why I'm fine with women I'm attracted to touching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:47 PM
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If they offered something else, maybe we wouldn't see them that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:45 PM
-1

Did you have a father who hugged you, wrestled with you, played football with you? Yeah, and I hated it. I also hate when my grandmother touches me. Her wrinkly old skin and her arthritic fingers. I feel extremely uncomfortable, almost like I'm being molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:42 PM
-2

If a guy can't easily talk to a woman platonically then he needs to work on that first. It's a prerequisite. Why? What can women friends offer that male friends can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:35 PM
1

Few people are like you, aka only attracted to hot people These were your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:16 PM
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Touch is my love language. I don't get this. I hate when men or women I'm not attracted to touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:15 PM
1

If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:11 PM
1

Guess I'll have to just accept that I'll never understand it and never experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:05 PM
3

If you can get this ‘benefit’ from male friends, you should also be able to get that from women if you see women as people. If I already got it from male friends, why would I need to get it from women? I can't get sex from men because I'm not sexually attracted to men. Sex is the only thing women can offer me that men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:52 PM
1

Bonds and connections are not just about what people offer you. Of course they are. Why would you want to be in a relationship with someone when it doesn't benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:47 PM
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It depends on if men see sex as the only thing a woman is good for. What else can they do for me that other men can't? I already have a Toyota Corolla. Why would I want another one that's the same in every way except it's a different color? f you just have a sex drive and find women attractive but can still interact with them and see them as people outside of sex, there’s nothing wrong I do see them as people. They're just people I want nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:36 PM
4

A world where we only blame the small group of elites with real power? Yes. Because they are the real enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:30 PM

No I'm not trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:22 PM

Of course you have no rebuttal so you resort to taking shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:15 PM
3

Because that's what women do. They can't stand it when men find out what they're really like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:11 PM

The average woman is hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:04 PM
1

If by "working out" you mean "they begrudgingly tolerate each other and have sex once a year out of obligation while dreaming about the hot people they really want."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:56 PM
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This is such BS lol. It's usually feminists saying how "feminism is for men too". People like exposed that saying for being BS. Exactly. Feminists do not and never will care about men or the issues they face. I realized that a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:54 PM

I don't count on men as allies until they've already shown that they see me as an equal. So men can only see women as equals if they don't want to fuck them? "Men sexuality bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:52 PM
1

No it won't. If she doesn't find you physically attractive, you have no chance. At best, she'll see you as a friend. You're a rare outlier. Most women aren't like you and you said those "relationships" didn't work out. We've been over this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:47 PM

I'm too smart for that feel good bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:33 PM

So you meet a girl where YOUR balance matches what works with HER balance. They don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:24 PM
0

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You're a woman, so of course you'd say that. You have a bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:20 PM
1

Most people aren’t only attracted to a tiny amount of extremely attractive individuals. They are. They're just forced to settle for those "in their league" because the top people don't want them. Only the best looking men and women get the partners they truly want. Everyone else gets the scraps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:59 PM
1

It's not delusion. It's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:53 PM
1

They can long enough to fuck at least a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:31 PM
1

Money's the only reason any woman would give them the time of day. After a while, I guess the women got sick of them and took a good chunk of that money for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:26 PM
1

So what am I supposed to do? Be fake just so other people's feelings don't get hurt? I don't care about other people. I care about me. That's just who I am. I can't change it. I was born that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:21 AM
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Women weren't attracted to me when I had a good personality. Women aren't attracted to me now that I have a bad personality. Nothing changed in that regard and I'm less unhappy than I was before. Being an asshole is much more natural and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:16 AM
1

Sounds like common sense. Why do something that doesn't benefit you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:08 AM
1

"Not offending women", won't make you attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:06 AM
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90% of the dudes who struggle in this sub do so because of their terrible personalities. Then explain to me why I was constantly made fun of by girls for my looks when I was in school. I didn't have a bad personality back then, that came later as a result of being treated like crap for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:02 AM
1

Ok explain why Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates' wives left them. They're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:01 AM
1

Because they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:01 AM
1

A relationship isn't sex 24/7/365. No, but it is a very important part and is what separates a relationship from a friendship. I don't want a relationship. Most women are annoying and boring. I just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:54 AM
1

most people in this planet are in relationships. That doesn't mean they're attracted to each other. Most people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:51 AM
1

Because being nice doesn't benefit me. Women will never be sexually attracted to me no matter what I do, so why bother being a good little boy just so they don't get their fee-fees hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:46 AM
1

It would make tolerating your presence easier. Still wouldn't make the pussy wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 09:42 AM
0

Congratulations. It's not possible for me. I can't give up food that tastes good and eat tasteless slop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 02:01 AM
2

because they are upfront pushing me to get laid You just proved my point. People can't simply leave us virgins alone. If they're not making fun of us for it, they're trying to push us into losing it. Which means they don't respect you as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:49 AM
2

40-year-old virgin, The Waterboy, Ready to Rumble, Transformers. That's just a few off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:26 AM
4

Below average, average and “normal” people get married and have kids all the time. I'm not attracted to below average or average women. I'd require a bottle of Viagra and a blindfold in order to have sex with one. Maybe that's why so many men need Viagra, their wives are ugly and they can't get it up otherwise. If you are only attracted to hot young women and they haven’t ever been attracted to you back, then that’s probably a dream denied. Like I said, I guess I'll have to resort to paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:25 AM
1

Watch literally any movie or TV show ever made that has a character over 17 who is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:23 AM
2

Everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:17 AM
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I'm not and never will be desirable. And I'll never have what normal people have. Sex with hot young women in their prime. Marriage. Kids. I'll just have to give in and pay for sex. It's the only way I'll get to have sex with women I'm attracted to. It's been made clear on here that women don't like men who pay for sex, but I guess I should stop caring about that since a real woman will never want me anyway so I might as well just do what's necessary even if others don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:12 AM
2

Quite a few knows I am a virgin and I am not treated any differently. They probably talk shit about you behind your back. And sooner or later that behavior will leak out in face-to-face interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:09 AM
1

No one likes virgins. Not even as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:34 AM
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So I'll just give up then. Not worth putting up with someone else's bastard kids just for some pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:33 AM
8

"Settle for washed up single mothers" is what I'm hearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:16 AM
9

So you're saying men who have no experience by a certain age should just give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:34 PM
0

People pay attention to things. If you're friends with someone long enough, the topic of sex and relationships will come up eventually. Even if you try and dodge it, they'll know something is up. They'll notice how you avoid talking about relationships and sex, notice how you never go on dates or bring women home. They'll wonder why you're 40 and still not married. More and more of these clues pop out and then they ask the dreaded question: are you a virgin? Or worse: are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:26 PM
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Because people pay attention to things. The topic of sex and relationships will come up eventually. Even if you try and dodge it, they'll know something is up. They'll notice how you avoid talking about relationships and sex, notice how you never go on dates or bring women home. They'll wonder why you're 40 and still not married. More and more of these clues pop out and then they ask the dreaded question: are you a virgin? Or worse: are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:23 PM
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You can probably find a roommate to live with to help expenses. I can't even afford to split rent with someone. I only make $15 an hour. Plus I can't mentally handle living with another person. I can barely tolerate my mother and my granddaughter. You probably do have a lot of muscle, but if it's all surrounded by fat then you aren't even going to be able to tell its there. No I don't. My arms are just bone and fat. Without the fat, my biceps would only be about 12-13 inches. I'm not your averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:49 PM

Wouldn't know. I'm 6'1" and I've never been on a single date and most couples under 40 meet on dating apps now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:09 PM
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Btw what amount of self improvement do you need thats gonna take another decade in order to have sex? Maybe a decade is a bit of an exaggeration, but it'll take at least 5 years. The bare minimum I'll have to do to be attractive to women is: Lose 150 pounds. Without crash diets that'll take a minimum of 2-5 years. Gain at least 20 pounds of muscle. I'm all fat, no muscle mass. Without steroids, it'll take an additional few years to gain a good amount of muscle. Get a job that pays a living wage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:07 PM
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Big whoop. You lost it at 19. I'm almost 30. People know when you fake it. Especially 30 year old women who are better at sensing BS than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:28 PM
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First time I stick my p in a v was at 26 with a woman I've known and worked with maybe a year prior to that point. After we did it she had no clue that was my first time as I didn't tell her, and we were fwbs that had sex frequently after that. You must be an expert liar then. And while 26 is definitely a later age than average, it's still somewhat forgivable. I'm almost 30 and with the amount of "self improvement" I'd have to do to be worthy of most women's attention, it'll take until I'm 35-40…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:27 PM
1

I don't believe anything without proof. Humans lie all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:08 PM
1

So no adult has actually treated you that way? Only because they don't know. Adults don’t give a shit about some randos virginity. I don't believe you. Humans are biologically programmed to hate and fear those who are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:03 PM
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I was treated that way althoughout middle and high school. Why should I believe adults would be any different? Especially looking at how adult male virgins are portrayed in movies and TV shows, which are written by adults. People watch these shows and movies and begin to believe it themselves and treat virgins accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:46 PM
0

They'll eventually figure it out if they hang around you long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:44 PM
4

I've never been in a relationship and it's because of my looks. The girls themselves told me so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:44 PM
2

I never said anything about rape. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:29 PM
4

It's not a lie. I've experienced it myself. Being ignored isn't much better. No one likes you or wants to be friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:29 PM
1

How you act has little to do with how attractive you are to women. That's determined by your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:27 PM
5

Yep. I've known since middle school that I'm undesirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:26 PM
4

Won't fix the fact that male virgins are hated and treated like garbage by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:24 PM
1

Therapy doesn't make men not attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:23 PM

Doesn't matter. Female virgins aren't mistreated the same way male virgins are. A man can still have all that, but when it's discovered he's never been laid, all that goodwill goes out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:00 PM

Easy to say for someone who's had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:15 PM

Men put way too much value on sex. You're not a man. You can't understand how important it is for social acceptance that a man not be a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:13 PM

the traits we find attractive in the opposite sex are fairly universal across cultures and has been shaped by evolutionary biology and sexual selection Exactly. Men like youthful faces, large breasts, slim waist, wide hips. Women like tall men with full head of hair, square jawline, muscles, low body fat, wide shoulders, slim waist. There are rare outliers who prefer other traits and people without these traits have to settle for each other because that drive to reproduce is so overwhelming, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:12 PM

Most men under 6ft can't get any matches on online dating for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:09 PM
1

Give me irrefutable evidence that porn and social media makes men not attracted to objectively ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:56 PM
1

Prove it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:50 PM
1

Plenty of physically attractive people let themselves go after getting married, and continue to have sex throughout. I'd get a divorce were I in that situation. You need to also consider that the emotional part is a very important factor. Emotional. Lol. Sounds like fairy tale nonsense. You need to consider the overall attractiveness. That includes physical, emotional, financial e.t.c. If you ever played a MMO, it would be like different stats. The median of your stats is your overall level, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:26 PM
0

Ah, porn and social media. Same old copout.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:20 PM

There's many notable historical virgins who led more meaningful lives than some randos who had sex. A very small minority. Most people can't and won't be able to tolerate living like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:17 PM

Easy for someone who's had sex to say. Men's entire reputation, the amount of friends he has and so on depend on him not being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:13 PM

You’re accepting the lie that biology dictates purpose That's not a lie. That's science. Life has no purpose. We're born, we die. That's it. People created fake religions to believe in because they can't handle this truth. You’re choosing misery over true struggle; you’re taking the easy path by telling yourself you’re just more honest when the reality is you’re just afraid. I've tried to create "purpose". It hasn't worked. I'm not happy. I haven't been happy in over 20 years. People who have lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:25 PM

I'm not choosing to believe a comforting lie. I'm not like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:15 PM

Doesn't matter. If you can't reproduce, you're worthless and life isn't worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:02 PM

Ah, classism I see. Would you say that poor women also shouldn't reproduce, or does this apply only to men? Do you really believe things would be better if only the rich were allowed to have children? Without the poor, who's going to work for the rich to keep them wealthy? Sure, most jobs will be automated soon, but we're not quite there yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:02 PM

Sex isn’t the best experience life has to offer. Having sex and passing on our genes is literally our only purpose in life. Has been since the beginning of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:16 PM
-1

I'm a low status man (ugly, fat, bald, poor, autistic) and I've never drank alcohol, smoked or done any illegal substances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:01 PM
2

Believing you have value when everyone else clearly disagrees isn't some virtue. It's being delusional. Can you even name one person who is disliked by everyone but still loves themselves and is happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:35 PM
2

No, I didn't report it. You're probably from a nice middle class city, possibly not in America. I'm from a small town in the South. Bullying is not only often ignored by school authorities, but encouraged. People in the South are mostly conservative and conservatives love bullies. Especially when those bullies are often relatives or star sports players. Reporting wouldn't have done any good and would have likely made things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:35 PM
2

I'll believe I'm worthy when I'm good looking, rich and loved by everyone. Not a moment before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:32 PM
2

Are you not that old? I'm almost 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:12 PM
2

Everyone is attractive Feel-good bullshit. Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:09 PM
2

You exist, so you matter, and you have worth. No one has worth just for existing. That's a lie people tell losers to stop them from self-deleting so they can keep taking from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:07 PM

More confirmation that I'm worthless I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:41 PM
2

I'll probably be dead by 40, so I'm not too worried about it. If by some miracle I live to see old age, I'll worry about it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:32 AM
3

Probably yeah. If not outright divorce her. I have no interest in LTRs anyway, so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:22 AM
1

Here we go again. Porn is the fault of every man not being attracted to ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:06 AM
1

Because most single women are single by choice. Most single men are not. And this doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:43 PM
2

Okay. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:59 PM
3

Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:59 PM
4

The same could be said for women with movies, TV and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:49 PM
3

If she doesn't look a certain way, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:14 PM
3

Ever since middle school I've been made fun of for not having any girlfriends, called homophobic slurs, had guys touch me inappropriately (my butt or rubbing up against me like they're humping me.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:56 PM
2

skin is still skin There's a difference between the skin of young people and the skin of old people. I absolutely can't stand for my grandmother to touch me. I don't like the way her skin feels and every time she tries to hug me, I feel like I'm being molested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:31 PM
1

Because people who are 600 pounds with 3 teeth are objectively unattractive. Yet I see more than a few who have a partner. Why? Are they just that desperate for sex? Are they in a sexless relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:28 PM
0

Attraction isn't only physical. For me, it is. You can't fathom that because you disgust yourself And women have made it clear to me since I was in school that they're repulsed by me too. So it isn't just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:27 PM
1

No judgment from me. Lol, that's a first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:23 PM
3

But I dunno how to describe it, but when you’re horny and in the mood, even gross stuff can be pretty hot. You’re already covered in bodily fluids and sex smells. You learn to wallow and laugh. Maybe sex isn't for me then. If only people didn't hate and mistreat virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:22 PM
1

But you can't deny that there are some people who almost no one is attracted to and some who almost everyone is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:21 PM
3

So you must provide a lot if you just want casual sex or pay for sex. But I wouldn't recommand you to do that at all So what should I do? Just be a virgin for life? Maybe that is my destiny. Admittedly I mainly only want sex for social validation. I am curious to know what tits and ass feel like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:17 PM
1

A woman's personality has never given me a boner. I don't get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:07 PM
2

The answer to that is obvious: money. It wouldn't apply to others because most ugly people don't have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:03 PM
3

Pretty much. The only way I see myself having sex (especially with a woman I'm attracted to) is paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:13 PM
3

Won’t you just assume she’s repulsed by you? Yes I would. I would assume any women, even ones in my "league", would be repulsed by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:02 PM
3

And of course, you don't need to be with someone 24/7 If I'm in a relationship, I'd have to. Which is why I don't want one. I just want to get laid. I'm just not attractive enough to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:01 PM
2

How can they find that sexually attractive though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:53 PM
3

Or it is just they don't act the same as men? More or less. Men and women just don't really have anything in common. Though there aren't many men I want to talk to for longer than 20 seconds either. My cousin is pretty much the only person I've ever genuinely liked and enjoyed spending time with, and even then, I wouldn't want to be around him all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:47 PM
2

Why though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:42 PM
4

I would never put my mouth near someone else's genitals. That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:42 PM
2

Because they're often either annoying or hateful bitches. Even the nice ones don't really do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:41 PM
2

I've never met a woman, attractive or otherwise, that I could stand being around for more than 20 seconds. Getting to know ugly women hasn't made me attracted to them. I just like their personality and have gotten used to their looks, but I still couldn't ever get a hard on for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:35 PM
4

I know I'm unattractive. That doesn't make me magically desire unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:14 PM
2

It hasn't happened to me. I'm almost 30 and my preferences in women haven't changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:13 PM
5

Ugly, fat and bald. And I'm not attracted to women who are in my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:12 PM
1

It's definitely shade and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
1

I just assume they turn the lights off/close their eyes and imagine a sunset or something. That's my assumption too. Sounds very depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
2

I'm trying to figure out how other ugly people are attracted to each other and why I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:46 PM
-1

Never said anything about deserving. I just don't know how you can stand the sight of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:45 PM
0

My dad raped my mother asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:41 PM
2

They need to be taught from a young age the importance that physical attractiveness has on women finding them attractive. Parents need to make sure their sons dress well, stay groomed, eat a healthy diet, lift weights, don't get fat, stop telling them that personality matters more than looks and so on. If my parents had done that for me, I wouldn't be a dateless kissless virgin at 30 years old.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/25 07:24 PM
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It'd cost millions of dollars and many many years to make me at least halfway attractive. And there are some things wrong with me that no amount of surgeries, diet, exercise, etc. can make go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:05 PM
1

others benefit from you hating yourself so why would you give in to them? Loving myself when no one else in the world loves me is just being delusional. There are also a lot of cosmetic treatments and products out there that address most issues so look into that. So you're agreeing that I can't be loved unless I'm physically attractive? Why should I waste all that time and money I don't have?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:21 PM
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Well, by most metrics, I'm hideous. Why should I love myself when no one else will ever love me (besides family and they don't count)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:15 PM
-2

You sound conceited.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 05:49 PM
1

I have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:33 PM
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It doesn't matter. I learned a long time ago that familial love is worthless. What matters is what people who aren't related to you think of you. And they think of me as less than dirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:47 AM
-1

You need validation from people close to you. So, my mother and grandmother? They don't count. They're family, they pretty much have to love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:38 AM
1

Everyone needs validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:31 AM
2

I'm not even into men and I'd rather date Danny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:59 PM
0

Yep, just like no one will call Danny Devito a 10 nor would anyone rate Meagan Fox a 1. In terms of looks, no. But in terms of everything else, I'd agree with those ratings. Danny DeVito is awesome. Megan Fox is a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:55 PM
1

Religion is basically a big cope that there is something when we die instead of just nothing because most of us can’t face the fact that there is nothing after this, we just cease to exist. Hit the nail right on the head. Most people prefer comforting lies over the uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:46 PM

theyre not looked down upon in the slightest. Either his group are rare saints or they do mock him behind his back or in their heads. I don't believe one bit that there isn't at least some points where the people around him think "He still hasn't had sex yet? What a loser. Why am I friends with him? He's so pathetic. He needs to lower his standards and go after a really ugly or fat girl with a nice personality and get it over with."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:24 PM
2

All I know is I don't pass any woman's threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:13 PM
3

Appearance isn't everything, but if you don't look good enough, no woman will want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:00 PM
5

They do lie to men a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:00 PM
9

Finally a woman who's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:55 PM

She may not be the prettiest, but that shouldn't matter rigbt? It matters to my penis. It can't get hard for her. How am I supposed to have sex with that? Or are you advocating for below average men to get in sexless relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:03 PM

Maybe some friends, but most Americans overestimate the number of "friends" they have because they don't know the difference between a friend and an acquaintance (you can thank our fucked up education system for that). That's been evident to me since I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:52 PM

30 is not ancient. Plenty of time to do the things I said. It's still too old to be with young attractive women who are at their peak beauty. Besides, what are you doing with your free time that's so amazing and can't be sacrificed for self-improvement? Swiping online? Reading Reddit? Gaming? None of those things better your life. No, but I'd much rather do that than eat tasteless food and torture myself in a gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:39 PM

If you saw someone who looked like me, there's no way you'd be able to stomach looking at them, let alone be their "friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:30 PM

You can do this in probably 1-2 years of self-improvement if you really commit to it. It'll take way longer than that. More like 5-10 years. I'm already 30 years old. I don't want to have to wait until I'm ancient to finally get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:28 PM

Okay, so then that's your choice and you can't really be upset about it. Of course I can be upset about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:20 PM

Red and Black pill is the same belief system. The difference is how they respond to it. Red pillers pursue endless "self-improvement" hoping it'll make them attractive enough for women. Black pillers realize that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:18 PM

either do the greater work required to meet someone who's into them Too much work and the reward won't be worth it. I'm not going put my life on hold for ten years, torture myself with tasteless food, constant exercise and cosmetic surgery just so I can end up with some ran through single mother who's only going to get uglier with each passing year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:17 PM

You think that behavior goes away in adulthood? No. They're just smart enough to not openly behave that way. No woman who looks like a model is into obese bald guys. They're into male model looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:07 PM

People hang out with those who are similar to them. Thin, pretty women have thin, pretty friends. If you're not attractive to one of them, you're not attractive to any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:05 PM

You must not be American. Most Americans don't know what a "friend" is. They use the term "friend" do describe everyone they know but don't hate. I've had people refer to me as a "friend" quite often and they were wrong. These people never see me outside of work or school, don't know anything about me beyond surface level stuff, don't have any conversations with me beyond "Hi, how are you?" type stuff. I've even told a few of them that we're not friends, just acquaintances and they couldn't comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:00 PM

This us absolutely normal thing in Serbia Well, I'm American. It is most definitely not normal here from what I can tell. If that girl isn't attracted to you, her friends almost certainly won't be either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:00 PM

It's much more natural and comfortable to be friends with another man IMO. Exactly! I say this all the time, but people keep arguing with me about it. I get along with men much more easily than I do women. I have more in common with most men than I do women. Men can relate to my struggles more, women can't. Men are more likely to say hello to me, women almost always ignore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:56 PM

You, like most people, probably use the term "friend" too loosely. Those women you think of as friends are probably actually acquaintances at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:55 PM

Female friends are great wingmen tho. No they're not. At best, they might try and set you up with their ugly fat friend who's "really nice", just so she can get you both to stop complaining about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:54 PM

which all women have different types And there are some men who are nobody's type. Or so few that they'll almost certainly never meet a woman who's into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:51 PM

Everyone needs external affirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:05 PM

Just keep putting yourself on the back there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:05 PM

I don't. That isn't going to make me suddenly get hard ons for bridge troll women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:30 PM

Don't tell me you're one of those people who believes women are mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:30 PM

If you can't find someone interesting to talk to unless they're sexually stimulating to you I don't even find women I'm attracted to interesting to talk to. I'm just more willing to put up with it from women I'm attracted to. I only find celebrities and fictional characters interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:29 PM

How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:26 PM

Because men not liking me is a danger to me. Physically and socially. I've been bullied my whole life. It has destroyed me mentally, physically and socially. If I were "normal", I wouldn't have been treated like that. And part of being normal is being in sexual and romantic relationships with women. Women don't like me? Doesn't matter nearly as much as men not liking me. Most people in positions of power are men. Men not liking me will also affect my ability to get good jobs. And fuck you for in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:24 PM

Because people who are well educated and highly paid are usually physically attractive. Physically attractive people make more money and are often more educated. You've probably never even seen a person in your social circle who looks similar to me because we're invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:54 PM

I don't. I see lots of guys as fat as me at the hospital I work at. None of them have wedding rings. There's a CNA who used to be about 500 pounds (she's had gastric bypass so she has lost a lot of it by now). She had a wedding ring on. And I bet the guy is skinnier than her. I see women on OnlyFans who are fat. They're not having sex with fat guys. They're fucking skinny and buff dudes. They even had the gall to lie and pretend like they find me attractive. I called them out on this and they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:02 AM

I actually think they were interacting otherwise we’d still be keeping men and women separated. They are. Outside of sex and romance, men usually interact with other men and women usually interact with other women. And I think society would be better off if some kind of gender segregation were put in place. Men and women can be friends Why would they want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:58 AM

Yep. Maybe that's what I am. Sexually attracted to women, but romantically attracted to men. Though I think I'm more likely aromatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:22 AM

Homophobia I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:16 AM

I see tons of obese women with thinner men. I see no obese men with a woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:58 AM

Women are people. They're just people who have nothing I want or need beyond sex and social status. Everything else I can get from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:42 AM

Lots of men who can't feel empathy get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:42 AM

With ugly women. Who are not actually attracted to them and are just settling because they can't get the men they're really attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM

Out of curiosity, what do you think your rating would be if you were to post on truerateme as a point of reference I'd be a 3 at best, and that's being generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM

So, I was right. You've never been friends with someone who looks like me and certainly never saw them with a woman who was attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:36 AM

Translation: "Take what you can get and shut up". Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:34 AM

Do you just not talk to anyone unless they make the first move? And are you the same with men? For the most part, yes. Especially with women. They hate ugly men like me approaching them, so I don't speak to women unless they speak to me first. I'm usually that way with men as well, but sometimes I'll initiate with them. I don't find most people interesting enough to be worth talking to. I typically only relate to celebrities and fictional characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:33 AM

My God, this is middle school all over again. No I'm not gay because I don't get hard looking at men or want to suck dicks. I might be romantically attracted to men, but I'm not attracted to them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:30 AM

Have you tried not hanging around with guys that make fun of you for "being a sexless loser"? All men do this, except for incels and monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:29 AM

You care enough to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:27 AM

But you can mitigate and work on all of those issues. Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:23 AM

Ugly but enjoyable to be around gives you better chances than ugly and off-putting. Because there's so much difference between a 0% chance and a 000000000000000.1% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:21 AM

Why waste time when you could be doing other, more productive things? Like being a slave for the rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:18 AM

The best I can muster is "sucks for you, glad it isn't me."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:59 PM

This includes empathy which can be learned! If that were true, I'd have learned it by now. I care about myself and myself only and that's probably never going to change. I can't help it. I was born that way. At best, I can learn to fake it, but it'll never be genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:07 PM

For neurotypical people, yes. For us, no. At best, we can learn to mimic it. But people know it's not genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:06 PM

If they are true then you gotta be realistic about women and judging women as bottom of the barrel when your current position is as described doesn’t seem like a logical strategy. Just because I'm in a tough spot right now doesn't make me as much of a loser as others who are "in my league". I have nothing in common with poor people other than income. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, I have all my teeth (besides the wisdom teeth), I don't look 20 years older than my age. I at least try to dress …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:39 PM

There's another clue. See, we all do it all the time, often unconsciously. You'll say anything to prove yourself right. Not talking to someone doesn't somehow translate to "I hate you". If women say hello to me, I say it back. It's just that it's always the old and unattractive women who try and talk to me. Very rarely do the young attractive ones speak to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:28 PM

Why would I want to put in effort to only be able to fuck women I'm not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:22 PM

Why do you see it as an insult when they do it, but not when you chose to use those words to refer to yourself? It's like black people and the N-word (and I'm black). I can say it, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:20 PM

Look how repulsive the women they fuck are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:18 PM

You're unconsciously letting out clues about yourself all the time. Bullshit. I don't talk to women at all unless I have to at work. So how can they know I feel that way specifically about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:17 PM

I don't want a relationship. I just want sex and arm candy so other men won't make fun of me for being a sexless loser. I don't want to live with a woman. I live with two of them already. It sucks. A lot. I want to live alone or with other men. I only want to be friends with men. I'm just not sexually attracted to men. I'm fine with women being acquaintances or business contacts. But men and women can't and shouldn't be genuine friends. It's unnatural. Do you think cavemen and cave women were in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:16 PM

You're not gonna go after a woman who's awkward and that you don't find attractive just because of her personality either Then why should I bother changing my personality when it's not going to get me any sex or romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:08 PM

Well, how do you expect me to interpret it. You're telling me I'm an ugly loser. You just worded it in such a way to not invite the wrath of the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:05 PM

If they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:05 PM

Most of the guys who I'm friends with but aren't interested in sexually? It's their personality, not their looks. Your friends are probably attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:00 PM

Ah. More personal attacks I see. Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 07:00 PM

No woman knows I feel this way. So you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:57 PM

I believe it's primarily my looks and my low income. The autism doesn't help. I just chose purple pill as my flair because I don't agree with the red pill about everything, but I agree that most of it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:51 PM

You don't seem like you are ready for a relationship if you see a friendship with a women as a negative. It is. It's like a starving man placed in a glass box with no way out. And on the other side is all kinds of food. You can only look at it, you can never eat it. It's torture. I mean lots of women who might want to date you would be turned off by that attitude. No women would ever want to date me. At best, a few bottom-of-the-barrel women might settle for me because they can't do any better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:50 PM

So you're saying I should just give up? if they're not very attractive they have to make up for it with personality. Personality doesn't make women want to fuck you. It just makes them put you in the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:46 PM

Yeah. They know one outlier and somehow that invalidates the experience of the majority. "I know an ugly/fat/short/autistic guy in a relationship, so all of them can be in one" For every one you see who has a relationship, there are hundreds, maybe even thousands more who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:33 PM

Exactly. People on here keep telling me that it's my personality, not my looks, that make me single. Changing my personality won't make women desire me sexually. At best, they'll just see me as a friend. And being friends with women is just a consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 06:27 PM
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Maybe men like you would have more success with women if you treated them like a real person. Not someone there to fulfill your sexual and physical desires. No we wouldn't. It would just make women want to be friends with us. Nothing more. A consolation prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:04 AM
3

Call it whatever you want. Life isn't worth living without sex. Especially as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:42 PM
0

What are you trying to prove here? No matter what I say, you'll still think you're right and I'm wrong. Listening to men isn't helping me. Listening to women isn't helping me. Not listening to men or women isn't helping me. Nothing can help me because I was given the wrong parents and I can't change my genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:27 PM
-1

When women stop telling men lies about what attracts women and stop saying lies like "You'll find someone someday", "There's someone for everyone", "Attractiveness is subjective", I'll listen to them. Until then, I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:40 PM
-2

Relationships? Yeah. I don't want a relationship. I want casual sex. I’m sure someone will call it AF/BB or something. It is. I’m talking about people in their early to mid 20s. Almost no one in their 20s is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:33 PM
6

That doesn’t mean ugly people are bad people, I’ve met some wonderful people who aren’t conventionally attractive. And yet they don't get sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:26 PM
0

Listening to men may sometimes make things worse, but listening to women doesn't make things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:52 PM
0

Which suggests that women are managing better without romantic/sexual involvement than men are. Because they don't have as much testosterone as men and sexless women aren't treated badly by society like sexless men are. So it's much easier for women to be happy without sex and relationships than it is for men. Only solution seems to be men getting rid of their testosterone so that they no longer desire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:46 PM
0

If women weren't pathological liars, maybe we'd listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:45 PM
9

Everyone knows that women can't be losers. Only men can. 40-year-old woman is unmarried? Not a loser. 40-year-old man is unmarried? Loser. A woman still lives with her parents? Not a loser. A man who still lives with his parents? Loser. A woman who works a low-wage job? Not a loser. A man who works a low-wage job? Loser. A woman wants to be financially supported by her spouse? Not a loser. A man who wants to be supported by his spouse? Loser. I could keep going, but that's enough to get the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:39 PM
7

Yep. "Love" is transactional, though most people are unwilling to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:35 PM
2

Then just give up. We have no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:27 PM
1

Only the ones smart enough to realize that women don't actually love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:39 PM
33

Being funny and nice don't mean shit if you're 5'6, balding, chopped facially, or have a big beer belly. I wish I could upvote this a million times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:43 AM
1

I just wish there was a way to get rid of my sexual attraction to women. My life would be so much better if I could stop wanting what I can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:28 AM

But you are not willing to do what it takes to get them and prefer to eat more food. Because it's too much. I'd have to literally almost starve myself, eat tasteless food and exercise every minute of the day. I've lost 20 pounds since I was at my heaviest and that's only because I'm on Ozempic. I don't think I can realistically lose more weight without extreme changes that I'll never be able to sustain. Tbh in my country and especially in my age group there are close to no obese people so I can’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:17 AM

I was just giving advice for people who want to get better results in dating. I do want better results, but it looks like wanting is all I'll ever have. Hasn’t been my experience at all. I don't believe anything without proof. When you hear "fat", you probably think "guy who doesn't have a six pack" or "Dadbod". I'm talking about men who are actually obese. No woman wants them, but their female looksmatch still has a male partner who's thinner than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:09 AM

It’s not about being worthy or not, but statistically speaking more people will find you attractive if you are not overweight which will make dating much easier for you. Not everyone who's overweight can or will lose weight. Even if I did lose weight, I'll still be unattractive because I'm covered in stretch marks and I'll have a shit ton of loose skin that can only be removed via surgery. I'm not giving up food I love when food is the only thing I have to live for. That being said, even overwei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:30 PM
-2

To other women. But not to men. Only our mothers genuinely love us. And that's not a guarantee either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:15 PM

Work on your physical appearance. Lose weight if overweight, nice haircut, good style. So overweight men are not worthy. Thanks for confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:49 PM
2

Uncle titty sprinkles. Makes about as much sense as what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:25 PM
0

Ahh, there’s the lovely red pill ideology that men who claim to be purple pilled always reveal in the end. Your mask is slipping. I'm not masking anything. I'm quite honest about what I believe. I don't agree with the red pill on everything, but there is a lot of truth in it and ignoring the truth doesn't work. No, I don’t make friends based on physical attraction. Sorry that you do. I have no desire to be friends with women. They offer nothing that a male friend doesn't. All I want from women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:28 PM
2

I’m more than willing to give a chance on a case by case basis. Only to attractive men though. Ugly ones get no attention from women unless it's to use us. Men are already having a meltdown over women being 4B. I highly doubt men would let women alone enough to live peacefully. It'll probably take many generations before this is realistically plausible. Today's men are too soft and horny to live without women. These men would have to die off without reproducing (which will happen anyway) while s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:19 PM
5

It doesn't matter. You'll never like us no matter how we behave, so why bother? At this point, I think men and women should just go their separate ways and live in gender segregated communities. Babies would only be born via artificial insemination.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:03 PM
1

Almost all women are attracted to the same men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:00 PM
5

They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:56 PM
1

What's that supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:37 PM
1

Almost 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:37 PM
10

Just be aware that many women will not willingly date a man who has used sex workers They won't date men with no sexual experience either, so we can't win no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 01:20 AM
-1

Realistically most women can keep themselves attractive well into 40s. And what after that? 50s? 60s? 70s? 80s? Eventually she's going to turn into a dried up wrinkly prune. We all do. Some later than others, but it'll happen regardless unless you die young. Old people gross me out. I can't even stand for them to touch me. I hate the way their skin feels. I couldn't imagine having to kiss or have sex with one. Lucky for me I'll probably be dead by 40 so I don't have to worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:38 PM
2

I'm almost 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:18 PM
1

No. People know even without you telling them. And once you start getting to know people, they ask questions. Even if you try to lie, they'll figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:16 PM
2

Because it's movies and TV. Not real life. Movies and TV shape a lot of our viewpoints. People watch those shows and movies saying virgins are losers, they start to believe it and act accordingly. Why would you build perspective off literal teenagers. Because unlike adults, teenagers don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:15 PM

I'm explaining why women lie about everything. They know men are a threat to them, so they have to tell comforting lies to stop them from lashing out and harming them. Some men will regardless, but far more men would if they knew how women really think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:12 PM

That they're not attracted to most men and just use them for their resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:12 PM
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Then why do people use "virgin" as an insult? Why do movies and TV shows portray male virgins are socially repulsive losers? Why was I bullied all throughout middle and high school for never having any sex or dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:11 PM

Contentless post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:52 PM
0

You make friends with the people who don't look down on you. Almost everyone looks down on male virgins. The only people who don't are incels and monks. And I don't want to befriend either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:48 PM
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Who cares if someone looks down on you. How are you supposed to make friends when people look down on you? You can't have friends if no one wants to be your friend. At best, you'll be surrounded by a group of people who only hang out with you to make fun of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:27 PM
-1

And just wants the "status" of being in a relationship or marriage. Yeah. Because like it or not, other people (especially other men) will look down upon men who are unable to have sex or get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:14 PM

Are you very young? I'm almost 30 so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:33 PM

I would say I don't have it, but if that were the case, why am I attracted to women out of my league but not attracted to women in my league?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:19 PM

OP probably has a personality disorder. I'll admit, I also struggle to comprehend how anyone can be genuinely attracted to someone who doesn't look like a professional model or actor, but I guess I just have to accept that I'll never understand it and try and assume that these aesthetically challenged people really are found attractive by their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:10 PM
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According to a lot of people on here, it is. Proof
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:47 PM

And what proof do you have that they aren't lying? Everyone lies (except me). Especially women. They have to lie to men for their own safety. If they were honest, they'd be beaten, raped and killed by men on a much larger scale than they already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:51 PM

Guess that means I'll be a virgin forever unless I pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:48 PM

Very true. But are you pursuing women that are about equal in terms of looks? I'm not attracted to my looksmatch. I can't help it. I can't control it. You act like it's something I'm deliberately choosing when attraction isn't a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:45 PM

Because they don't want men to know their true nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:41 PM

Even if it’s only 1% of women, you do realize that’s still a large pool of women, right? Spread that 1% across the entire globe and it's extremely unlikely that I'd run into such a person, who likely lives in cities, counties, states, countries and continents that I'll never visit. And it's even less likely that those women would be attractive to me (since women who are good looking also want a man who is good looking). And such women are usually asexual, so even if I did find one, I wouldn't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:40 PM

Hundreds of women lie, one tells the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:34 PM

What about women who genuinely don’t care much about looks? Because they are such a small minority that they're insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:26 PM

Finally a woman who's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:49 PM
3

If you're living for free at your mom and grandma's house, then I don't know where your money is going. Car payments, car insurance, credit card bills, streaming services, food.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:33 PM
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Also, it wasn't legal in the place I did it. What are you spending your money on if you live with your mom and grandma? What's that supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:24 PM
2

I don't think people need to change to be worthy of love, but bettering yourself is a good thing. I like the way I am. I don't want to change. Yet no woman will ever want me as I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:32 PM
1

I'm sure it's possible to "fall in love" with someone and have zero desire to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:31 PM
1

I love my cousin but I don't want to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:24 PM
1

They might fall in love with them, but they aren't sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:02 PM
1

that they need to change. Then why are men who are unsuccessful with women almost always told that they need to change everything about themselves if they want sex or relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:57 PM
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Yes, your fundamental problem is unsolvable. But it can be partially solved by money That's not solving it. Paying someone to let me rape them isn't solving anything. It’s also unclear why someone wanting to have sex with you is important when you don’t seem to care what people think or want anyway I wish I knew why, but I do. I've been a loser my whole life and I'm tired of being treated badly by others and seen as inferior. And like it or not, men who don't have sex are seen as inferior by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:31 AM
2

Strip clubs are totally legal You can't do anything to strippers. Just watch them. Maybe have them grind on your lap, but you're not allowed to touch them back. You already say you’re too unattractive for any woman you want to fuck, so I don’t see way around desire, it’s just not a factor So you see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:22 AM
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I don’t know why you don’t pay for it I don't make enough money to afford it, it's illegal (and traveling to a place where it is legal would cost even more money), I risk getting robbed or catching STDs and I doubt I could enjoy sex knowing that she doesn't actually want me. and/or get a sex doll Again, not enough money to afford it and I wouldn't be able to hide it from my mother and grandmother who I'm living with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:15 AM
2

Stop using women for validation. We can't. It's imbedded in our genes. You can fight nature all you want but nature always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:51 PM
2

it's not that bad to go through life without sex. Only if you're a nun or a monk. Most people couldn't deal with that lifestyle. Nor would they want to be friends with such a person. I managed to get laid here and there from 19 to 24ish. That's just it. You've had sex before. I'm almost 30. No sex, no dates, not even a first kiss. And at this point, I've pretty much given up on it ever happening unless I pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:46 PM

If you're asexual, you are not straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:54 PM

I certainly wish I could opt out of mine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:53 PM
2

It is difficult when it's everywhere. Movies, television, video games, advertising. It's unavoidable. You just don't understand because you were lucky enough to lose your virginity at the socially acceptable age. I meanwhile did not and have constantly been made fun of for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:24 PM
2

You're not deliberately lying. You're just in denial because most humans can't handle the truth. I value truth, not comforting lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:20 PM
3

You can pretend all you like. I don't deny reality. And there's a difference between choosing not to reproduce and wanting to but are unable to find a willing partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:15 PM
3

Well, you're wrong. The entire purpose of living is to reproduce. That's it. It's what's been wired into our brains for hundreds of thousands of years and a few short millennia of modern convenience hasn't changed that. Men who can't have sex are genetic failures who don't deserve to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:12 PM
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Women and society will never acknowledge this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:56 PM
4

The only reason it’s shameful is because men are so thirsty and think sex is the most important and desirable thing in the world Sex is literally the most important thing in the world. Without it, the human race dies out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:55 PM
0

It is too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:37 PM
9

Whoever is conflating romantic relationships with morality is the actual loser. So, 99.9% of humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:22 PM

We can definitely do the same for men. It's better than to just flip over and act like all is lost. The problem isn't that we can't, it's that we don't want to because women don't care about men's problems and most men are too steeped in patriarchal views. Either way, real change in that regard won't happen until after I'm dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:20 PM

That's not a realistic solution. Most people aren't going to change their minds on this. At least not for decades or centuries when current humans die out and are replaced. So the men of today are just shit out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:13 PM

P.S. this isn't a gotcha, I'm just convinced most issues of "lonely men" come from this idea that their losers unless women want them. We think this way because it's what other people tell us our whole lives. It doesn't just pop into our heads out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:04 PM

Then show me a woman who sleeps around who likes fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:17 PM
3

Also being nice is relative anyways some peoples nice is others mean and vice versa. That's a pretty good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:10 AM
2

I'm never going to have sex anyway so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:13 PM
2

Men want head but don't give it. Why would anyone want to put someone's nasty genitals in their mouth? The thought of doing it makes me sick really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:29 PM
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How about people with same looks but different personalities? At best, they're now inoffensive to society so they are tolerated by women. Maybe a few will be "friends" with him, but they still won't date him or fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:42 PM

We clearly didn't live the same experience so I guess we have to just agree to disagree. Women tell me comforting lies all the time like "There's someone for everyone" "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" "You'll find someone someday". If any of that were true, I wouldn't be a 30-year-old dateless, kissless virgin. Why do you think that would happen? Why would men react in this way? Because when women tell men that they aren't attractive, the men get angry. And when men get angry, they often r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:34 PM

Also what would I even come up with an argument against? You want me to try and disprove that women don't always say one thing and do the opposite? lol Well, yeah. This is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:29 PM
1

Why put in work when the odds of find them are damn near impossible? It's like trying to win the lottery. You're saying you want men to metaphorically waste tons of money and time buying lottery tickets even though he'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or bitten by a shark than winning the lottery? The more sane option is to just accept his fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:59 PM

I wasn't talking about penis size in particular. I'm saying that women lie about everything and almost never tell the truth about anything. And I understand why they do it. If they were upfront with men about their preferences, they'd be beaten, raped and killed on a much larger scale than they already are. It's a safety thing. But yes, I have had conversations about my size with some women and what they're saying to me doesn't reflect their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:56 PM

Well, none of the women I've ever met were like this. But you're going to come up with some excuse as to why you're right and I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:48 PM
2

There are women with non-existent mate value. Those are your dating pool. Don't want them? No. Why would anyone? So you are happier single than with a woman you could get. I'm not happy, but a woman on my level would make me even more unhappy. Best case scenario for you. Unhappy that you don't have a average or above average mate value? Sure. And the worst and more likely scenario? I live my life being mocked, ridiculed, unloved, miserable, wanting to delete myself from existence. But why does t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:47 PM
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Because my mate value is objectively low. I'm fat, I'm bald, I'm autistic, I don't make a living wage, I have no college degree, I live with my mother and grandmother in a trailer park, I have no interests or hobbies outside of TV and video games. Any woman would view my value as non-existent. And before you tell me to self-improve, it's not something I'm willing to do. Juice isn't worth the squeeze and there are some things I can't change. I'll never be attractive enough to be with any woman th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:26 PM
2

So I don't matter. Thanks for confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:16 PM

Exactly. This is 2025. Almost everyone uses the Internet. Real people are saying their true opinions online without having to worry about getting punched in the face for it if they said it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:13 PM
1

No it doesn't. Not for me it hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:11 PM
3

No it isn't. Been there, done that. Got me nothing. So I quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:09 PM
2

There's no reason to do something that doesn't benefit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:08 PM
5

And my personal experience says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:07 PM
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Being a good person has only gotten me ignored and bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:06 PM

Of course. Women always say one thing and act in the complete opposite. Like you said, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. My words and my actions always match. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:56 PM
1

I don't and will never consume alcohol or any drug. If I lost my inhibitions I'd probably do some very bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:41 PM
1

What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:26 PM
2

Yes, but if he's not 666, it's going to be very hard, damn near impossible for some, to find a woman who genuinely finds him attractive rather than a woman who's just settling for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:23 PM
1

So I'm not relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:08 PM
2

You're right. It's so easy to find one of the ten women on the enitre planet who doesn't. Just got to go through billions of women in every continent, country, state and city on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:12 PM
5

And that has what to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:06 PM
3

No, it's fact. If you don't pass the looks threshold, nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:06 PM
1

What the fuck are low inhibitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:27 AM
1

I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:20 AM
1

So I should just give up then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:20 AM
0

But some men, such as me, will be no one's top percent. Or any percent at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:58 AM
0

I don't care what they do. The problem is that I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:31 AM
2

But if a guy doesn't have looks, none of the rest matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:28 AM
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No. It's very clearly true. Otherwise I wouldn't be a 30-year-old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:28 AM
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Just because there are a few outliers who don't find the 666 guys attractive means nothing. It's so few women that most men are unlikely to run into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:26 AM
1

Honestly, it's probably a bit of both. I am jealous that they have a much easier time getting dates, but in general I also don't like the way women act and behave. Gossip especially. I don't really like men much either, but they annoy me far less than women and are nicer to me than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 04:53 PM
2

Only if she agrees to accompany me in public outings. Otherwise I don't want to know she exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 03:37 PM
4

Exactly. An attractive man will still be attractive even if he's wearing a T-shirt and shorts. An unattractive man will still be unattractive even if he wears a suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 03:35 PM
1

I said "You can't be good at sex if no one wants to have sex with you" Your response was "Of course you can". Now you're trying to backtrack. Or you just weren't paying attention to what I said. Wouldn't be the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 03:18 PM
1

Okay? So if no women want to have sex with me, then how am I supposed to be good at sex then? Go ahead, tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:34 PM
4

Sex is not the meaning of life. Sex is literally the entire meaning of life. Life doesn't exist if humans don't have sex. That's how babies are made after all. Our entire purpose is to survive long enough to reproduce and then die. That's the way it's been throughout all of human existence. Modern luxury hasn't changed what our caveman brains have always known.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:27 PM
1

You can't be good at sex if no one wants to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:25 PM

Stop comparing yourself to others ...comparison is the thief of joy. Comparison is natural and you can't fight nature. Humans are also naturally wired to hate and fear those who are different from them. Men who don't have sex are not liked or respected by other humans. In many cases, they're outright bullied for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:23 PM

I'm upset that I'm unattractive yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:56 PM

Because it's happening to me obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:55 PM
5

Society has only one interest in individuals that make up the masses. Reproduce. They don't care how happy your life is or how satisfied you are with your significant other... you are just a number to them that they want to make more numbers with. Exactly. The rich want more slaves. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:31 PM

Ah. Humblebragging I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:25 PM

So you're not actually overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:23 PM

So you're overweight but somehow are able to date women who aren't? Are you rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:04 PM

How ugly and fat are the women you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:42 PM
5

Equally sucky. I don't know ugly people are able to stand kissing or having sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:30 PM
5

That said, a lot of women do lower their physical standards as they get older it won’t be as bad The problem is that their looks also decline as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:57 PM
4

God is a pretty popular belief and I don't buy that crap either. People have to tell lies to themselves to make them feel better because the truth is too painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:00 PM
4

Like either u vibe with someone or you dont, 'value' never comes into it, because we all have value as humans implicitly No we don't. Humans don't have value just for existing. Human's value is based on what they have to offer. If you have nothing to offer, you have no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:08 PM
2

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:17 PM
1

They'll wise up and leave their man eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:12 PM
3

Very few men get to be someone's first choice. Unless you get married to the first person you ever date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:04 PM
2

That is true. Old people are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:34 PM
2

Are you attracted to men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:14 PM
0

Not liking your looksmatch is an oddity You mean to tell me that all these ugly, fat slobs I see together are genuinely attracted to each other? There's no way. well then, maybe sex isn't for you? idk, but this isn't definitely not women's problem. I never said it was women's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:23 PM
0

you are more likely to change your standards in therapy than changing everyone else's. Therapy won't change evolutionary programming. No one is attracted to ugly people. Ugly people are forced to take what they can get because no one else wants them. They must be in sexless relationships because I can't imagine how they'd get aroused by, well, that. "I only like super hot models" knowing perfectly well it'll never happen, that way you'll never fail. It'll definitely fail if I got with my looksma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:10 PM
0

There's millions of ugly men in relationships but they are with their looksmatch. I'm not attracted to my looksmatch. oh dear lord blackpillers are insufferable You can choose to stop responding to me at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:27 PM
4

They always have to pass the looks threshold obviously So ugly people should just give up and suffer alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:01 PM
0

I do where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:56 PM
1

prioritizing horny or looks over chemistry and personality How are you supposed to have sex with someone who's ugly? Maybe that's why so many men need Viagra to get it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:55 PM
1

That is all beneficial, but it still doesn't change the fact that I find nothing likable about humans. It's not logical for me to like them due to how they've treated me my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:47 PM
2

Well, when humans give me a reason to stop hating them, I'll stop hating them. The people on this subreddit aren't helping sway my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:32 PM
0

Because "normal" people are boring. The only people I like and respect are celebrities and fictional characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:38 PM

Why should we be nice when no one is ever nice to us? Why should I care about the suffering of others when no one cares about my suffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 04:00 PM

Notice you didn't include ugly people who are treated badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:21 PM
1

I want to know what ass and titties feel like. I want to finally be a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:21 PM
6

My point - don't be jealous of hot assholes. They aren't happy in the long-term. Of course I'm jealous of them. They get to experience what I want but can never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:26 AM
13

Women blame men for the problems in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:05 AM
-5

That shit doesn't make the pussy wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:02 AM
4

Nah. I'll stick with venting on Reddit. It'd just be old grandmas anyway and I don't want them touching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:52 AM
1

Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:42 AM
1

It doesn't matter. Women can't love or respect a man who earns less money than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:39 AM
-3

Yes. He can't buy anything he wants, do anything he wants and needs mommy's permission for everything. Why would any self-respecting man do that? He's basically a live-in babysitter and housekeeper that she doesn't have to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:24 AM

Okay. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:01 AM

Why be nice when it doesn't benefit me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:13 AM
1

A lot of words for "Humans are ableist". Which is quite obvious to anyone paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:59 PM
-8

So basically be the loser stay-at-home dad who's at his wife's mercy and has to slave for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:47 PM
2

When men realize they are fine as they are is when they start to become more successful Almost no one would agree that I'm "fine as I am." People on here certainly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:46 PM
6

It doesn't matter. Most women still want men who outearn them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:40 PM
1

What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:25 PM
1

You might think that everyone is identical because they are talking about the weather - but you don't see that they are saying different things about the weather. Doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck about the weather. I don't want to talk about things I don't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:24 PM
8

So I'm supposed to invest in a community regardless of whether they care about me or not. Fuck that. I'm not investing shit into a bunch of bigoted, Trump-loving rednecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:33 PM
3

How am I supposed to interact with others outside of work? Everyone my age already has friends and don't want anymore. Or they get all their social needs met through their spouse and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:09 PM
-3

I am forced to engage with other people at my job. It's incredibly annoying and every conversation is exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:02 PM
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You can say it all you want. I stand by what I said. Every human interaction I have is pretty much identical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:59 PM
1

You don't want to date them, then. You want to fuck them. Which is fine, but it's not the same thing. You're right. I don't want to date them. I never said I did. I couldn't care less if I never go on a date in my entire life. I'd probably be bored out of my mind listening to a woman talk about herself. The only reason I've ever wanted to date is so other people will stop making fun of me for having not done it. Same with sex. Well, I mean I do want to know what ass and titties feel like, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:30 PM
-1

I think the root of this problem is there are several people who just see other people as NPCs, not as actual humans. Because most humans are NPCs. Unremarkable, forgettable and basically identical apart from one or two insignificant traits. Very few people are truly unique and they are usually social outcasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:18 PM
8

Why invest in a community that doesn't care about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:16 PM
1

Why do you want to date these people, if they're so detached from your core values? Because they're hot. Duh. Unless you go around telling people, it really doesn't matter. People will figure it out even if I don't tell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:14 PM
1

I can't make everyone in Western society stop believing that male virgins are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:49 AM
1

The problem is I'm not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:48 PM

Why dont we have the notion that virginity or celibacy isnt necessarily bad, many cultures have had this? Because the corporate overlords need us to pump out more wage slaves to line their pockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:10 AM
1

Why would I even waste time thinking about if a friend of mine was having sex or not? Because humans are wired to hate and fear those who are different. It's a natural instinct. Look at how virgin men are protrayed in movies and television. Look at all the comments online of people using "virgin" as an insult, saying that a person "becomes a man" when they lose their virginity. It's not a fun experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:03 PM
2

I'm not happy per se. I just recognize that I am what I am and I can't change it. I'm too lazy and unmotivated to change my appearance and I don't want to change my personality either, nor do I think I could if I wanted to. I have autism. There's no cure for it. I can't control it. I can try and "mask" sure, but I don't like pretending to be something I'm not. The mask will eventually slip. I'm not interested in getting married or even going on a date. I'm only interested in women for sex and fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:59 PM
3

We don’t know who is getting laid and who isn’t. If you have an actual friendship with someone, you absolutely know if they're getting laid or not. How can you know somebody for years on end, notice how they never go on dates or talk about past relationships or sex partners and not conclude that they aren't getting any?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:46 PM
2

But I like the way I am and I don't want to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:43 PM
6

I'd like to rebut this, but I don't want to push my luck and get in trouble with the mods for the "No 'woe is me' or blackpill/incel content" The point is, most people in society would see me as worthless. No one wants to even be friends with men who don't get any action. Except incels. And, believe it or not, I don't want anything to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:35 PM
5

Thanks for confirming how worthless I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:33 PM
8

And yet people deny it when I say that nobody likes or respects men who don't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:23 PM
3

I didn't use to believe this, but I think you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:22 PM

I didn't ask for your input nor do I want someone like you responding to me at all. I thought I blocked you before, but I guess I didn't. Let me remedy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:09 PM
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If you think dating or being in a relationship means you have to change everything about yourself and be someone you aren’t then you shouldn’t be trying to date in the first place. Because I would have to change everything about myself in order to date a woman I'm attracted to. Not everyone is meant to be in a relationship. I agree that I probably am one of those people. The problem is that society doesn't like men who don't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:02 PM
-1

So, change everything about himself and be fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:56 PM
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Most men aren't wanted either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:29 PM
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If you are already ugly, having a shit personality will only harm you. Not really. If you're odds are already zero, a "good" personality won't do you any good. It's just means other people's little fee-fees won't be hurt. If I'm suffering, why should I want others to be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:08 PM
1

We should stop telling people that their standards are too high "you're ugly so you should go for ugly people" Agreed. It's incredibly demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 11:02 PM
-5

Because it's happening to us. That's why it's a problem. When it happens to someone else, not our problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:39 PM
6

Yes, but when it's literally one person on Earth that they will never meet...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:37 PM
-2

Attraction can't be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:28 PM
1

I don't want to date. I want sex and to show her off to make other men jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:35 PM
2

What else is there to care about besides appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:30 PM
2

You seem to have misunderstood me. You said "why would men want women are are attracted to assholes?" And it's because those women are attractive. That's why men want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:24 PM
2

Because they're physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:09 PM
9

A combination of brainwashing, longing for purpose, fear of death and ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:55 PM
6

An ugly regular guy still stands a better chance than an ugly asshole. A difference between a 0% chance and a 0.00000000000001% chance. Not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:52 PM
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I don't know how anyone with more than one brain cell could.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:46 PM
3

I don't think most children, boys or girls, are properly taught how to be marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:12 PM
-1

They have full Pinterest pages of wedding rings dresses and accessories picked out by the time they are 18. It's like I said. They want to be brides, not wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:01 PM
1

Yeah, this does seem to be the case. My cousin's ex-wife fits this bill. They didn't even last two years together. She was never around and although he won't admit it, I think she cheated on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:35 PM
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So you're pretty much saying that women want to be brides, but not wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:03 PM
6

It's not false. No woman that I find attractive would ever have sex with me unless I paid for it. That's just fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:02 PM
3

I can tell you're trying really hard not to say "yes". I will say that attitude probably doesn't help much It's my looks, not my attitude that is why I've never been with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:58 PM
5

You should stop using your anecdotal experience to give unattractive men false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:54 PM
2

It makes plenty of sense. If left-leaning people are having less children than right-leaning people, then right wingers will outnumber left-wingers because most people have the same political views that their parents had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:53 PM
2

Do you know why I didn't say that? Because I don't believe it. So then you do agree that men like me have no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:34 PM
2

Just because you know a few who got lucky doesn't mean most of them will have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:27 PM
6

Ah, the classic "I know short, fat, ugly guys in relationships so that means most of them must have a chance".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:26 PM
4

You're from a different generation. Times have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:07 PM
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And shows like that made me believe I actually had a chance with women who weren't fat and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:42 PM
1

So you live in a fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:40 PM
1

So the complain is that the woman whom you find hot are not attracted to you, while at the same time you are disgusted by the women who find you hot but you aren't attracted to? Yes. So maybe one of the problem in the discourse is that men only look at the women they find hot, while the women they don't find hot don't exist to them. Yes. I fail to see why that's a problem. While women aren't blind about men existing who aren't as attractive to them. Bullshit. They definitely are blind to men the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:15 AM

I've never had any friends so I wouldn't know. Just acquaintances. I'd only consider someone a friend if they're someone I see outside of work or school. And if they're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:37 AM
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I would never be with a woman of similar status. I'd never have anything in common with someone drunk, drug addicted slob with more children than teeth or IQ points other than not having money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:13 AM
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Have you seen the ugly creatures those guys end up with? Of course, the guys are ugly too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:55 AM
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And you seem to have skipped the opening paragraph, which I wrote. It rarely happens in real life, and usually only because the ugly guy is rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:30 AM
2

Contentless post. What's the point of even typing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:55 PM
1

You're an outlier. Almost any other woman would have left him. And you're forgetting one crucial detail: HE WASN'T FAT OR UGLY WHEN YOU FIRST GOT TOGETHER! If he had have been, you'd have never dated him in the first place. "Love goggles". That's a laugh. I don't love anyone, not even my own mother. I certainly couldn't love or be attracted to some dried up old hag. I don't even like when old people touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:32 PM
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Then get in shape, fatty. Fuck off douchebag. I can say what I want. You'll probably feel better about yourself as well after getting fit, which will boost your confidence. It's not worth giving up good tasting food.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:21 PM
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I decided I preferred tasty food over constant discipline for no reward. I'm morbidly obese again. Glad someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:13 PM
1

The closest thing I can think of are Shrek and Fiona, and they're not really as ugly as the narrative presents.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:06 PM

We have autistic men at work, lots of them (grocery store, we have a special needs quota) . I'll bet no one talks to them or is nice to them either unless they absolutely have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:03 PM
1

I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't watch that show.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:59 PM
1

>You can get reasonably shredded within 1-2 years of regular lifting you don't need 10 years. And being shredded is pretty much enough to get hookups. I'm morbidly obese. It'll take way longer than 1-2 years for me to get in shape. And you seem to be forgetting the diet part and I'm not willing to give up food that tastes good. It's the only thing I have to live for. >Autism can be masked. I'm not pretending to be something I'm not. >Bald can be fixed with minoxidil I've lost too much hair for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:54 PM

Have you as adult been bullied and mocked by random people because you are single? No. But that doesn't matter. Being single is one thing, being single, sexless, dateless and kissless is another. People who know I'm single don't know that I have absolutely zero experience at all. No sex, no dates, not even a first kiss. No one outside my family knows this. If they did, they'd definitely be making fun of me for it. It happened to me constantly in middle school and high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:43 PM
1

So the "objectively least attractive men" aren't worthy of sex or dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:38 PM
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Prove it then. All the men I see at my place of work who look similar to me have no wedding rings on. My female equivalents do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:31 PM
1

It would take about ten years worth of work to maybe become attractive enough to get attention from women. And there are some things about my appearance that can't be changed. Beside by then, the women will all be ugly, fat single mothers who will just get uglier and fatter with each passing year. So the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:31 PM
0

Then what would contribute enough to this conversation to please your highness?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:29 PM
0

So you're saying extremes don't count?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:26 PM
0

Exactly. Media made by women still has the Chad type dudes as love interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:23 PM
2

Doesn't matter. Men who look like me don't get laid or have dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:22 PM
1

Then why doesn't media made by women feature dudes that are obese, bald and earn $15 an hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:21 PM
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What else do women offer that men can't provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:03 PM

He clearly doesn't represent the average single man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:58 PM
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I never said anything about fucking dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:20 PM
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At this point, I think men and women should just go their separate ways and have gender segregated men-only and women-only societies. Babies will only be born via artificial insemination (and only those with the best genes will be allowed to reproduce). The male babies will be sent to live in the male-only societies with their biological fathers and the female babies will be sent to live in the famale-only societies with their mothers. I know I'd be happier if I was surrounded by only men. Being…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:04 PM
1

Thanks. Now if only I could find a cure for heterosexuality it wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:49 PM
1

I don't have the gold, so not even they would want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:46 PM
1

Well, I am none of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:39 PM
0

I'm pretty sure almost every woman would reject me based on income. That and my weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:39 PM
2

And if the man doesn't earn a good enough salary, you think any woman is going to stick around?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:13 PM
2

Why should we have empathy for people who hate is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:07 PM
1

Yeah, unfortunately ableism is still socially acceptable unlike racism or homophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 07:45 PM
7

I feel the same about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 07:41 PM
6

I couldn't care less if I get banned from this shithole sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 07:02 PM
2

I don't see why it's not a good solution, autism isn't just a physical health condition, it affects your entire personality so it's a factor when looking for matching personalities Yes, but our interests aka. obsessions would be completely different. finally I don't see why someone with autism would be less attractive, in fact often they're more beautiful Because most people with mental handicaps are ugly. I'm ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:21 PM
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I don't believe that's a good solution. That's like telling a diabetic to date other diabetics. Just because we both have the same disease doesn't mean we'll have anything else in common. An autistic woman also likely wouldn't be attractive to me physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:30 PM
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No they don't. At best, they tolerate me. Every now and then I get a pity hello, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:17 PM
6

That's how most people see us. Fighting it is futile. Nobody likes autistic people. Platonically or sexually. We're tolerated with condescending compassion. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:41 PM
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The best advice for autistic men is to just give up and pretend women don't exist. Don't interact with women unless you have to like for work or something. Just hang out with men. There's nothing a woman can give you other than sex (if you're heterosexual) that a man can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:25 PM

According to a lot of people they are. Like how incels are told that it's their personality not their looks that makes women avoid them. But when you say no women have gotten the chance to know my personality, they are then told something along the lines of "women can somehow tell." As if they read minds or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:49 PM
1

And you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:34 PM
1

I know why I'm unattractive to women, I'm fat (I'm trying to lose weight but it will take years), bald, my teeth are yellow (I've tried whitening products but they don't work. I think I'll have to end up getting veneers and I can't afford that), I'm poor and I'm autistic. Except for perhaps the last part, none of that is personality related. And even counting the autism, no woman outside of family have gotten close enough to me to know my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:32 PM

The ball is entirely in the women's court when it comes to this issue. Not entirely. Men should also stop praising other men who have high body counts. That would help the issue just as much if not more than women condemning the practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:44 PM
1

Yet, their mother chose to be with their father. My mother didn't choose to be with my father. My father manipulated her into sleeping with him, got her pregnant out of wedlock and she pretty much had to marry him. Neither of my parents liked or were attracted to each other. My mother says my dad used to tell her that she's so ugly she'd back lightning up a tree and the way she talks about him suggests she didn't find him attractive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 11:38 PM
6

You really want women to tell you not to even try if you don't look like a model? Yes, because it's honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:09 PM
1

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:20 PM
1

Why would anyone do that? Why be with someone who's unattractive? Are they just so lonely and desperate that they'll be with a bridge troll's ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:33 AM
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If men who didn't have a woman were treated well in society instead of shamed and bullied, maybe men's self worth wouldn't depend on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:04 AM
1

Hey, I'm just the messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:25 AM
2

I know. Just thought I'd take a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:04 AM
1

I've seen the marriages in my family, especially my own parents. That's all I need to say "Hell no".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:58 AM
1

Only If their marriages are happy as well right? No shit Sherlock. Of course men in bad marriages probably won't be better off than happily single men. The problem is that most married men are content with their marriages (I have no idea why) and most single men (especially older ones) are not content.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:53 AM
3

I just listed them. Are you blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:46 AM
3

Constant nagging, complaining, emasculation, treating you like an idiot who can't wipe his own ass, dealing with screaming, crying, pissing, shitting kids. Not being able to do what you want, be with people you want, give up everything to make the wife happy only for her to leave you anyway and take half your stuff. So no worries and stress at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:41 AM
4

Numerous studies have shown that married men are happier, healthier and live longer than single men. While single women are happier than married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:31 AM
4

Yeah, I'm sure there are tons of women lined up to date a fat, bald, poor, autistic man who lives with his mother and grandmother in a trailer park. That's my "wholeness".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:28 AM
5

Exactly. We're slaves to our biological urges like any other animal. But people would rather believe we were made by some invisible man in the sky and that they'll live forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:49 PM
11

Most people get into relationships. And the divorce rate suggests that they shouldn't have in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:42 PM
1

Yes it does fucking matter why. There's a huge difference between being single because you choose to be and single because you're an ugly loser and no one wants you. The former is your choice, the latter isn't. The former is empowering, the latter completely destroys your will to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:46 PM
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