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Logic: 1) Two people enter into a marriage contract. If they had not they both would have progressed in moderately successful careers doing whatever they did. 2) The both of them agree that for the betterment of their union one of them should do a career change to "take care of the family". The individual who takes on the new career of "take care of the family" no longer progresses in their old career; this is OK because within the context of the marriage context they are depending on their care…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 07:56 PM
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The immaturity here is overwhelming. I'm not even sure exactly how to respond... Just curious. Do you, or have you ever worked in a career? It's just that I feel like you are downplaying the difficulty of entering the workforce at 30+ after 10+ year employment gap. You also seem very determined to tear down a strawman. I'm not saying there aren't alimony abuses, or that we don't need alimony reform. I just think that inane comments like your evidence a fundamental lack understanding of its purpo…
/r/MensRights05/03/16 09:32 PM
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Dude, really? Grow up. I'm not saying being a stay-at-home parent is some overwhelming burden. I'm saying it is a career sacrifice. Even regular jobs give you some degree of severance when you get fired. Getting divorced as a homemaker is like losing your job and being blacklisted in your industry (often through no fault of your own). The least your former 'employer' could do is help you get back on your feet.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 07:52 PM
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I'm not saying that they have or have not been compensated. I'm saying, if you give up your career for your family, and then your spouse breaks their vows that you were counting on, it is fair that your spouse continue supporting you while you get your career back on track. Alimony isn't supposed to be about recompense, it is supposed to be, 'hey, we agreed that it would be best for us if I took on the career of "taking care of a family full time", now you've gone and blown that up, the least yo…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 11:17 PM
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Ehhh, alimony serves a purpose; infinite alimony that scales 'maintains lifestyle' in no-fault divorces is bs. I mean, if two people get married they may make sacrifices for each other on the expectation of long-term returns. If you leave your field of work because you agreed with your SO that it was best for your family, then later find out that your SO is cheating on you and spending a lot of your family's money on a mistress/mister, I'd say you could have a reasonable expectation of getting a…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 08:12 PM
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You are trying to set up a contradiction that doesn't exist. There is no reason that you can't provide support to both alleged victims until enough information is found. Being supportive of an alleged rape victim does not mean destroying the alleged perpetrator (and vice versa). Treat people with dignity and respect. Have you never seen friends fight? You don't have to pick a side without all the information. You can be supportive of whoever you are listening to. How? Why? Because they are your …
/r/MensRights28/02/16 07:28 AM
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This seriously, sometimes this sub gets OTT at assuming people are lying about rape. Yes, people lie about rape sometimes. Even more often they don't. So if someone tells you they were raped, when interacting with that person, assume they are telling the truth. Doesn't mean don't take the case through due process, it means take their testimony at face value at least until you are given some other reason to doubt it (even then, don't start treating them like they are lying, due process works both…
/r/MensRights28/02/16 07:22 AM
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I'm sorry, but if that was you replying, you're just being an ass. The original post did not sound like it was about how rape accusations shouldn't go through due process. It sounded to me like it was specifically talking about challenging a person who claims they were raped. Please, please, please do NOT question someone who approaches you/opens up to you about being raped. That doesn't mean go lynch the person they are accusing, it means take what they are saying at face value for the moment. …
/r/MensRights28/02/16 07:17 AM
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Yes, because Morena Baccarin has a history of abusing Alimony law? WTF man! She's an incredible actress getting screwed over by a broken legal system just like any father getting screwed over. Sure, take a crack back and abusers if you feel like being vengeful, but don't just flail around looking for some random women to take your anger out on. What did Morena Baccarin ever do to you?
/r/MensRights02/12/15 06:22 AM
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Well, to be fair she wouldn't be "stoked" about it because her parents would find out about it and convince that that she had been violated and that she should be traumatized by it. Then all of her friends (who had been previously egging her on and daring her to do just that) would now be shaming her for being so slutty, and her life really probably really would be in shambles. (Heaven forbid we allow people to emotionally react to their own experiences without telling them how they should be fe…
/r/MensRights23/08/15 10:07 AM
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ctrl+f :P
/r/MensRights29/07/15 08:21 PM
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Oh yeah, good point. :P I don't frequent there, so it didn't even cross my mind.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 07:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure she is making an extra-legal arrangement with him. Legally he probably has absolutely no visitation rights. She will concede without challenge visitation rights if he does what she asks. This is an incredibly unfortunate, yet realistic scenario.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 05:36 PM
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Honestly, I think we have grounds to be pissed that they are all boys for, yet again, perpetuating the media stereotype that men are the bumbling idiots of the world. :'(
/r/MensRights19/07/15 05:28 PM
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They already do. I brought this up to a feminist friend of mine. I basically said, "You know, murder is unequivocally worse than rape." And his response was basically, "Well..." While I can understand where he is coming from (I'm very good at getting inside of people's head) it pisses me off to no end that we live in a culture where this is even a question! All victims of non-lethal crimes are better off than victims of lethal crimes. If that weren't the case we would just kill all the poor soul…
/r/MensRights10/07/15 10:20 PM
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There's nothing wrong with understanding and accepting sexual dimorphism. You'll run into issues if you start using sexual dimorphism to be prejudicial. In most ways the standard deviation in humans is greater than the difference in means. So, sure, acknowledge the general differences between men and women, but if you're going to start justifying your sexism with it, or telling me what men or women are 'supposed' to be like, you can kindly go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights01/07/15 08:53 AM
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Unfortunately for you, I doubt your employer is being sexist, it's your customers. You are being employed by businessmen. They can probably point to their books and prove that they consistently make more money at the bar when a woman is tending. They are going to try to maximize their profits by maximizing the amount of time they place women behind the bar.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 10:03 PM
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Not going to lie. This complaint seems really petty... True, they probably should have made both bathrooms gender neutral (or did they? Did you check?) At the end of the day though, find out how much are you actually inconvenienced before planning your lawsuit. Civil lawsuits provide rewards based on damages, if it makes no difference you're making a fuss about the principal of the matter, which I have trouble giving a damn about.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:27 PM
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Honestly, the wording may be a bit harsh, but the idea is not unsound. The women's restroom should be used by women, men who were born in a woman's body (if that is where they are more comfortable), and women who were born in a man's body (if that is where they are more comfortable). Swap all the gender's and it should apply to the men's restroom. What reason does a cis-man have to go into the women's restroom? EDIT: Oh, I stand corrected. Yeah that's dumb. I just read "Women's room" which is ho…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:52 PM
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Yeah, sorry. As in, it isn't particularly common for people to drug other people and rape them.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 06:33 AM
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Most commonly refers to when two people meet and interact in a friendly way, then one drugs or otherwise incapacitates the other, takes them somewhere private, and rapes them. From an onlooker's perspective it looks like 2 people on a date. When they leave together, even with the perpetrator possibly carrying the victim, it just looks like one person helping their date after a night of heavy drinking and they usually won't be stopped. While this isn't as common as some people would have you beli…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 06:17 PM
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Man, hilariously, didn't the whole Dadbod thing started with women? Women are oppressing themselves with their own misogynistic patriarchy...
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:05 PM
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b-but something something systemic oppression! /s
/r/MensRights23/03/15 05:19 PM
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Thank you for this. In fact we need more content creators like Joss Whedon IMO. He is the answer to when SJW complain about the lack of minority representation in entertainment media. That is: Then go make representations of minorities in entertainment media. If it is good, people will watch it. Buffy wasn't good because or despite have a strong female lead. It was good and had a strong female lead. They are unrelated concepts. That is my primary beef with that aspect of SJW. Enjoy media that is…
/r/MensRights19/03/15 01:43 AM
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Sure, unless you are specifically clarifying that you are talking about not trans people, perhaps when speaking of "privileges" that certain non-minority groups have. Cis would be a thing that people say in such a case.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 05:09 PM
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Because it is shorter than saying "Not trans"... What was your point?
/r/MensRights12/03/15 07:23 AM
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Thanks. I was kinda trying to get him to say something concrete to shut down cleanly, but he kept spouting this inane BS trying to make me look bad? In the end I think it's pretty clear that what he said isn't what this sub stands for, but it's obnoxious that its still the kind of comment that gets pointed at when criticizing us...
/r/MensRights17/02/15 06:35 AM
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What? feminists and gays are both low ranking cannon fodder in the jew's army, and all of them want to use you for their own ends, you're better off not spending your life "supporting" people that would cut your throat for a dollar I'm so confused? You're the one talking about gays and feminists and the Jew's army. That's what I was trying to get you to clarify about in the first place... but you didn't clarify anything... just got more and more confusing.
/r/MensRights17/02/15 03:11 AM
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So, what I'm getting here is that you have no idea what you're talking about and are simply trying to stir up antagonism against the Jews... and the gays... I found the sentiment odd, but I'm sorry I inquired because I'm pretty sure you're just crazy...
/r/MensRights17/02/15 02:21 AM
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I really, really don't understand. I feel like you are telling me that I'm supporting my true enemy by doing... something... when I should be focusing my attention on... something else. I'm asking you to clarify what you are talking about, but you're only muddying things with new nonsensical analogies, and ambiguous rhetorical devices. Should I just carry on as I always have been? Then what was the point of your post? Or this conversation at all...
/r/MensRights17/02/15 02:11 AM
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You're only making things more confusing here. Who is the dog, and who owns the dog in this analogy? And how am I putting a chain around my neck? What is the metaphorical chain on me, and the dog too?
/r/MensRights17/02/15 02:03 AM
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Ok, break it down for me. Who is my enemy in this case?
/r/MensRights17/02/15 01:46 AM
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Please tell me you're trolling... Wtf is that even supposed to mean?
/r/MensRights17/02/15 12:29 AM
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Not all that is left is progressivism. Progressivism is just another form of social conservatism with different goals. Why would I trade a bunch of conservatives telling me how to live my life for a bunch of progressives telling me how to live my life. While the left has its socially progressive branch, it also seems to be home to the larger portion of the socially liberal population.
/r/MensRights12/02/15 02:09 AM
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So basically your position is that two people who were in an exclusive relationship, went through the process of pregnancy, planned for a baby and delivered a baby together, would not be better parents to that child than if a family adopted a baby. Actually, that isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the difference between those 2 cases isn't the difference between homosexual and heterosexual couples. There is a far wider range of experiences within those sub-groups than between them. I …
/r/MensRights10/02/15 11:53 PM
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Simple answer: Because curiosity, and freedom. That's fine, it really is. Freedom of speech and all. Like I said, I'm not opposed to people doing research on this subject, more info is better. I mean, I'm sure there are real scientists out there the just asked the question, "I wonder... let's find out!" However, in reality the vast majority of people who even ask that question, much less fund research for it are coming from a place of discrimination. We have absolutely no reason to believe that …
/r/MensRights10/02/15 07:50 PM
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If gay people would start having biological children, then we'd start giving them the tax breaks that other married couples enjoy First of all, gay people do have biological children (IVF/sperm donor, surrogate mothers). Second, we give the tax breaks to heterosexual couples even if they don't or can't have biological children. Finally, marriage is a determining factor in 'accidental' pregnancies in a small and dwindling subset of the population. This completely undermines your argument and comp…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 10:49 PM
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you know, someone who can actually "have" the abortion. A guy who is alone will not be able to get money for an abortion. That is what I'm saying, the person getting the abortion must be present. Not because they are a woman, but because they are pregnant. I'm sure if a pregnant man came in they would be equally accomodating, and if not, then yes, they would be discriminatory. but I am a bit concerned that there is a case of anything that disagree's with you is "bias propaganda" You are right th…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 09:50 PM
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I can't help roll my eyes when reading your post, which means I'm clearly not in a position to be convinced of anything by you (which is probably a good thing, as I very much hope to have a family of my own one day). That said, I doubt you are consciously attempting to be discriminatory from a place of bigotry, but you are supporting unfair discriminatory practices nonetheless. I'll read through your links later when I get the chance, but I doubt I will find anything that I didn't already say wo…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 07:09 PM
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Personally, I have nothing against advocating for equal rights. However, I choose to focus my attention towards issues that affect me and the people I care about more, thus Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 09:10 PM
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The state could say that it "endorses" or "acknowledges" the marriage, but maybe just use different terms. Yeah, I don't really care what the word is. I really don't. The important thing is that state doesn't enforce discriminatory practices by "endorsing" a "marriage" for one type of relationship while denying it to another. To be fair, they are two different kinds of couples, that are going to tend to be operated differently, so the idea that they might get some slightly different benefits and…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 10:47 PM
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They don't. For example, I am not religious, yet I am still fighting for it to be their term This seems contradictory to me. Why do you fight for a particular religious group's right to own the government's use of a term, but not another. I mean, I personally don't care about the word, but why should the Catholic church get to tell government what "marriage" means, while the Episcopalian church does not? For that matter, why are either of them more important than some arbitrary third group that …
/r/MensRights06/02/15 07:08 PM
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This just came up this evening with the #QuestionsforMen thing (and why I happen to be browsing here right now. That men aren't/have no reason to be afraid walking down the street alone at night. Like hell I don't stick my keys between my fingers when walking down an empty street at night. I'm significantly more likely to get mugged than a women is to get mugged or raped randomly walking down the street... My other one, that is my personal crusade is just the general 'everybody likes boys and me…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 11:22 AM
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It doesn't help that so many men push this narrative. It is a common joke theme for male comedians I feel, and I'm pretty sure they don't believe it either, but it gets the room laughing.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 11:19 AM
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Personally (gay man here), I don't care about the term. In fact, I get irked by the movement rabble-rousing over the word. At the same time, there is the principal of the matter, why shouldn't we be able to get <quote>Married</quote>? Why do the religious get to be the police of language? In the end, the fundamental rights violation related to gay marriage is primarily over the tax code. A "married" couple can file jointly and get tax deductions, a "civil union" couple cannot. The more auxiliary…
/r/MensRights06/02/15 02:29 AM
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Because they do the same for our students. There are many benefits to having some students study abroad. We should not put massive barriers in the way of that.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 07:47 PM
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But this is the law that is dealing with technical definitions. They won't be able to get a murder conviction because they can't show intent. The term manslaughter is a technical legal term that is appropriate for the crime that was committed.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 07:56 AM
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And the one that is about male privilege is entirely self-imposed. If a woman should be worried about getting raped for walking down a given street, I should be about 3x more nervous about getting mugged...
/r/MensRights26/01/15 07:20 PM
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I don't really know nor care much about this case in either direction. I did have to shake my head at the one who opened a defamation suit against Cosby, for denying her rape allegation... She... sued him... for defamation...
/r/MensRights20/12/14 09:23 AM
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Wouldn't defendant statement "She said yes." be enough? In a he says/she says situation a conflicting witness testimony should give reasonable doubt to their guilt? If the defendant's testimony is deemed unreliable because they are the defendant, I suppose the only other evidence one could provide is that the alleged victim had some reason to lie about having given consent. Perhaps a more clear and explicit recollection of the events to catch the alleged victim in their lie. (Of course pressing …
/r/MensRights20/12/14 09:12 AM
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I just want to let you know that you're not alone here. This question pretty clearly described the women as entirely passive in the sexual encounter. He took off her clothes, he had sex with her. Sometimes people here take their hatred for affirmative consent a bit too far in a very concerning way. Basically, there is a difference between doing sex to someone without their consent (rape) and having sex with someone (where both parties are actually participating) without their explicit verbal yes…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 07:38 PM
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I 100% agree innocent until proven guilty. There are not nearly enough protections in place for people falsely accused. I'm not talking about that here. I'm not in the wrong sub. I'm a strong supporter of the MHRM. I just think a lot of the people here get their outrage and ideology in the way when dealing with potential victims of rape. There is a difference between defending alleged rapists and supporting potential rape victims that a lot of people here seem to miss.
/r/MensRights07/12/14 05:10 AM
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Frankly I hate this entire fight. Yes, when interacting with an alleged victim we should inform the way we treat them by believing them. That doesn't mean we can't keep all the constitutional protections in place for how we treat the alleged perpetrator. I'm just sick of the polarization. MRAs (I know it's not all of you, but still), stop attacking women just because they can't prove that they were raped. Feminists (again, some), stop using an alleged victim's word as gospel truth to attack thei…
/r/MensRights06/12/14 11:08 PM
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I'm really kind of confused on your stance. Are you saying that you think this woman should go to prison and should be a registered sex offender for what she did? Because that's what happens to rapists. No, I'm not talking about the legal situation with that line. I'm talking about how we should treat and respond to a victim here. Telling him he wasn't "really" raped is horrible. We aren't interacting with the alleged perpetrator here; this is the alleged victim. There is a lot more to dealing w…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 08:20 PM
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I'm not looking for explicit consent. I'm looking for anything really. I don't think California's Yes means Yes law allows for the nuances of sexual actual sexual encounters. However, I think it is pretty clear in this case that Shia provided no indication of consent.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 08:11 PM
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I'm really not big on yes means yes or affirmative consent because I've definitely had sex with people where neither of us said anything. I'm not big on yes means yes either. There is definitely a point that it no longer makes sense. You may have had silent sex before, but have you had sex where you partner, during no part of your interaction with them, gave any indication that she would consent to sex with you. Like, you literally walked into a room, met them for the first time, stripped them, …
/r/MensRights29/11/14 11:05 AM
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Frankly, it is your responsibility, if you are not receiving consent, to ensure that your partner is capable of providing it. So, no, yet again, lack of active rejection of consent does not equal consent. No sane jury would hold that as sufficient proof that you had consent. I'll admit that, while in some jurisdictions you may be correct that the prosecution must prove that the assailant used some degree of force, this is in no way a universal standard. Additionally, opposed to your insistence, …
/r/MensRights29/11/14 10:35 AM
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Hmm, maybe this never goes to court, it certainly shouldn't if there isn't enough evidence to confirm Shia's allegations. We don't even know who this person is that allegedly raped him. That's how it should be. I'm not advocating a witch hunt here. I just think it is ridiculous the amount shit that is being slung at him for publicly admitting he was raped. Maybe it's just another publicity stunt, I wouldn't put it past him. I just think it is ridiculous that people are saying horrible things lik…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 10:03 AM
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No, I didn't. There a lot of ways to indicate consent. There are a lot of ways to interpret ambiguous actions as consent. These are all potential points in a rape trial, trying to get to the bottom of things and find out what everyone was actually doing and thinking. If the case is clear that you have sex with someone that is completely unresponsive to you, you are raping them! Don't do it. Consensual sexual encounters require consent. Everyone has to agree to the encounter there is no getting a…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:39 AM
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No, "no consent" is not consenting to the encounter. It is significantly more difficult to prove that one did not consent without actively rejecting the engagement. The situation is certainly more ambiguous, and open to interpretation. It certainly begs the question "Why didn't you explicitly express your withholding of consent? What was your objective in allowing the engagement to continue?" In the end, in a world with perfect information, if the encounter happened in exactly the way Shia descr…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:15 AM
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Do I think one should legally have to get explicit affirmative consent for every escalation of a sexual encounter? No. Do I think a sexual encounter should require some form of affirmative consent? Absolutely. Having sex with someone who has given no indication that a 'normal person' (or w/e terminology courts currently use) could interpret as consent is rape. So "So then you support affirmative consent laws?" is a bit ambiguous. It would depend on the details of the law. Also, in any case outsi…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:07 AM
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Rape is defined as sex with someone without their consent. The case becomes unclear when the consent is unclear. If the girl testified to having any reason to believe he was consenting a case could be made, but as is we don't have such a testimony I'm certainly not advocating a mob to go hunt this girl down and lynch her. Perhaps she really did think he consented. Mocking Shia for his allegation though completely unfair (no matter how big a tool he may or may not be). Who knows, maybe he's just …
/r/MensRights29/11/14 08:25 AM
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I'm sorry, but I don't think my opinion would change if it was a female. From his side of the story (I'm still holding out a completely formulated opinion until I hear what she would have to say) he did not consent to the sexual encounter in any way. That means he was raped. Perhaps, given her testimony he did something that she could construe as inviting the encounter, at which point the case becomes muddier, but based on his testimony he 100% was raped and has every right to my sympathy.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 08:06 AM
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That's ridiculous. I'm not a crazy 'verbal affirmative consent for every escalation' advocate, but you can be raped without physically or verbally saying no. If the encounter happened as Shia described it, then yes, it was rape. If he had spoken up or tried to stop her it certainly would have been more clear cut, but that doesn't mean he consented. One would have to have the other side of the story to know what made her think that he was interested in a sexual encounter. From his story though he…
/r/MensRights29/11/14 08:02 AM
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I do like the suggestion for handling sexist languages. I've always hated the "like a girl" comment. I think from now on when someone says "like a girl" I'll respond with, "Hmm? I don't understand." It's such a stupid, meaningless turn of phrase that we would be much better without. That said, the rest of the article is trash. Like, boys speaking over girls isn't sexist behavior. It isn't a young boy's responsibility to make sure that his female peers are confident enough to speak their mind. As…
/r/MensRights22/11/14 01:55 AM
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Good god yes. Sometimes I come here, not because I necessarily always agree with the stances people take here (yes, sometimes we let a bit too much actual misogyny slide by with implicit approval) but because I get so frustrated at the hysterical screeching of my feminist Facebook friends. I don't want to block them, because they really are my friends (even if they aren't particularly close) and generally good and nice people; I just need a breath of fresh air and reasonable analysis. Sometimes …
/r/MensRights19/11/14 09:10 AM
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I'm sorry, but not only is that a horrible, racist thing to say, it is also completely unfounded and probably based on prejudice and propaganda.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 07:23 AM
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Fair enough, there are plenty of points of failure in her argument to go around. :P
/r/MensRights07/11/14 06:04 PM
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My usual go to is just "and... ?". It's not worth attempting to counter this argument with someone who is asserting it (not that it isn't falsifiable, just by the the time you've demonstrated it you'll have lost the entire point). Really, I think it is best to challenge them on the implications of their assertions. "Men have never been institutionally oppressed, and... how does this lead to your argument?" It works because "Men have never been institutionally oppressed." Implies nothing other th…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 09:57 AM
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If I'm parsing her BS correctly, I think she is saying 'There are drastically fewer women in jail than men, ergo jails are designed for men, ergo women in jail are affected more severely than men. In other words prison caters to men so women shouldn't be made to go.' Or, prison is one boys club we (women) don't want to butt into. I mean, to give her credit, there is a logical flow of her arguments. Her conclusions are just incredibly one sided. Like the solution isn't send more women or fewer me…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 09:12 AM
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I was just commenting on if you think the risk is significant enough. Specifically in response to "Don't send your sons to college! There's an extremely small chance that they won't....be able to go to college! scary music". Obviously Amanda Marcotte thinks the risk is small, but it is disingenuous to claim that all that will happen is the same as if you hadn't gone in the first place. I went to college and things worked out well for me (Software Engineer). Still, if you're going to college for …
/r/MensRights12/10/14 09:20 PM
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Spending a ton of money on college and getting kicked out over a rape accusation puts you in a worse spot than just not going in the first place. "I see you have 2 years of University here, but no degree? Why did you leave?" "I got expelled over a rape accusation." Now you're out whatever tuition you already payed, every potential employer that you're honest with is going to think that you might be a rapist.
/r/MensRights12/10/14 08:04 PM
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I don't think this is a particularly unreasonable conclusion. Young, unattached, discontent men are more likely to foment revolution. Whether this is a "problem" per se is in the eyes of the beholder. That doesn't make it any less consistent with history, psychology, or biology. Forgive me for lacking outrage at this analysis.
/r/MensRights07/10/14 05:20 AM
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Yeah, that was my thought with the clinical trials on the pace-maker too. I don't know then, it really could have been a sexist development and clinical trial screening procedure.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:05 AM
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No, it's the male dominated industry that's sexist. They should have held off on saving men's lives with that temporary transplant heart until they could make one small enough for an average woman to use last year. /s
/r/MensRights15/09/14 03:04 AM
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Once becoming president you do not lose the title after ending your term. There is 1 active president. There have been many presidents.
/r/MensRights08/09/14 02:46 AM
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Thanks for the good post. I really get where you are coming from, but I'll give my perspective. My line is usually, "I understand that women have issues to deal with, but so do men, and those are the issues that I'm going to concern myself with." I take this perspective mostly because I am a man and most of the people I care most deeply about are also men struggling with some of these issues. I've never had anything against the feminists I know working on real female specific problems. I will co…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 07:54 PM
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A couple questions: Is there a type of equipment there that isn't available outside? If so, use it anyway (if you want to) and if you are stopped threaten (and follow through on) sex based discrimination. Is the rest of the gym full while the women's section has equipment available? Same response. Is the women's section objectively better in any way? (No, "There are women there" is not a reason) Same response. Do you actually feel the need to have a space for men only? Bring up your concerns to …
/r/MensRights22/08/14 06:11 PM
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I had the same thing last week when I was at the hospital. Of course it was spoiled by the registration lady asking, "I'm sorry, but I have to ask this." It's like, don't be sorry! If I was a victim I would appreciate the opening to get help! If I'm not a victim, I'll simply say no...
/r/MensRights20/08/14 12:38 AM
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I don't know about that. She has a lot of detractors on the left, and she doesn't get anyone excited in her base. In many ways the republican strategists should be pushing for her to run if they can pull together a ticket that isn't crazy; a maverick if you will. If she runs I'd highly consider voting 3rd party (or a not insane repub candidate). Context, I'm young, and pretty moderate. In my short voting cycle I voted McCain then Obama.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:28 PM
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2) that it is impossible for men to have any sort of issues because their massive throbbing privilege Oh, that's where my privilege is; between my legs. You know, we have surgeries that can fix that. Why don't we give everyone a penis and balls and then everyone can be as privileged as me?! /s In case it isn't clear I don't think turning all women into men with transsexual surgeries will solve anything. It just is the easiest vector of attack for why this whole men vs women oppression Olympics i…
/r/MensRights13/07/14 06:58 PM
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This is all fallout of the pervasive "Women are wonderful" meme that I've been dealing with my entire life. It's just so frustrating every time I hear the 'Sugar and Spice' rhyme I just want to scream, but I don't, because I've always been the pleasant one. I just bottle it all up like a good man... I'll call it a successful day when I can just convince culture at large to stop tacking any character traits onto people solely because of their gender.
/r/MensRights06/07/14 06:26 PM
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Good to know, I didn't comment on that one because I have very little experience there.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 09:27 PM
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Most of those are totally on point. I do disagree with a few of them. 9 Women have the privilege of paying less retirement contributions and claiming more due to longer life expectancy Social security is working as intended so I hate when this one is used. If a man makes less money over their lifetime and lives a long time, or if a woman is wildly successful and dies young, they are not discriminated because of their gender. It's just the way it works out. Everyone pays in as they are able, and …
/r/MensRights27/06/14 07:51 PM
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Exactly this, but just in case. A message for rape victims: Please come forward and report crimes against you. If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt then your aggressor will be punished, and you will be safe from punishment if you don't claim things that can be proven false beyond a reasonable doubt. If you aren't lying, you really shouldn't be super worried about be proven to be lying.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:36 AM
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If talking about female circumcision that occurs 10,000 km away is a valid issue then talking about male circumcision is a valid issue. No, because that would be distracting from the real problems that women face. /s
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:16 PM
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I think this is the big deal, I just don't know if I feel good about the only way I see to go about it. What I mean is, yes we could advocate that she be prosecuted to the letter of the law in the exact same way that a man would in order to prove a point. I just don't like hurting individuals in the process of making a point. Do I think she should have lost her job and marriage? Absolutely, regardless of whether she was 'worn down' by his advances or not, it was incredibly unprofessional, and sh…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 03:32 AM
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I'll say that my attempts to point out that he was clearly mentally ill as a baseline for how we look at the incident has only been met with (an actual quote) "There is nothing to indicate that he was mentally ill." I just don't know how to respond to that. There are people that literally think there is a cultural group (of men) out there that supports and encourages mass murder of women. They don't understand that no one thinks that they are owed sex from women. The people that do, and are will…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:27 AM
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And their friends. Seriously, too often it's "Well, you're cool. You're not one of those bad ones." You're right, I'm not one of those 'bad ones'. Most men aren't, most people aren't.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure no one is saying its easy to put on muscle and show off a six pack. Fat people have to go through the same struggles plus shed the fat covering it up.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 08:19 PM
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Yeah, I usually use 'feminism' or 'the institution of feminism' when I'm talking about the problem I have with the movement. I like a lot of feminists. Feminism? Not so much.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:11 PM
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Doesn't matter. Osama bin Laden could have been subscribed to SRS. Doesn't mean he represents them. The fact remains, none of his crazed ramblings had anything to do with the issues that the MHRM supports.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:14 PM
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No, but I am sane. Also, you may be looking for psychologist. Psychiatrists are most adept at matching diagnoses with medications.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:41 PM
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His manifesto clearly demonstrates his psychopathic narcissism and delusions of grandeur. This is one of those rare times when we have a 'manifesto' of why a mass murderer did what he did. NO ONE in the MHRM believes or supports his ideas enumerated in his 'manifesto'. It's crazy talk. He is not normal, he sounds insane.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:06 PM
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My problem with this backlash to NAMALT, is that we shouldn't even be saying that. We should be saying Men Aren't Like That. This is not a man thing to be narcissistic psychopaths and go on murderous rampages. It is a narcissistic psychopath thing. So they are right. I won't say NAMALT, just MALT.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 07:51 PM
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Whelp, that does it. The US isn't a third world country, guess we should call it a day. Good enough, eh mate?
/r/MensRights26/05/14 03:43 AM
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Yeah, that was 100% of the problem (though they probably didn't think they were lying). I wouldn't say I would have been trying to change that person's mind. Rather, now as far as the rest of the conversation's participants are concerned those lies stand unchallenged. That's really what I was driving at. Call out the bullshit, demonstrate that these false-hoods and mis-characterizations are what they are.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 12:39 AM
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I think your big mistake in that conversation was allowing them to get away with characterizing the entire men's rights movement by a few "MRA's" that said some horrible things to them. I say this because that seems to be the primary sentiment behind their opposition to the movement. They don't seem like they are against men having rights, they just see the group of people calling themselves MRA as misogynists because of experiences they have had. You need to stand up to those mis-characterizati…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 09:42 PM
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That is natural in that Feminism holds many strong parallels to fascism.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 11:31 PM
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i couldnt disagree more, education teaches mostly obedience to authority, and fact recollection, it does not teach you to think independently or creatively. If that was your educational experience you have every reason to think the way you do. You went to a shitty college with shitty professors. Not every higher educational experience is like that. Really, a good and reputable college will not graduate you with out you demonstrating your ability to research and think critically.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:44 AM
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IMO the earrings thing... No, not specifically the hospital being sexist. It sounds like the hospital wants their employees to look 'normal', and normal looks different on different genders. In fact, I bet if you were transgender and otherwise looked like a woman, regular earrings would be fine. You are public facing employee and they want to control what they (the hospital) look like to their customers. The Code Orange thing though, yes, incredibly sexists. This is assigning different duties to…
/r/MensRights26/03/14 06:25 PM
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Hmm, I guess those both could be outside their core beliefs. I haven't had a ton of interaction with TRP, I just haven't had an interaction where those two points (1. men not just different, but more deserving, and 2. defining manliness) weren't passionately defended. Basically, when you put that why it isn't that bad of an ideology. I can get behind men and women are fundamentally, biologically different, and we shouldn't pretend they aren't. At the same time I have always seen, in the same bre…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:50 AM
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No, but an equitable approach is not to blame men wholesale, but rather evolution, species survival, and dominant cultures. Then, without pointing fingers at half the human race you strive to fix these inequities.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:34 AM
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They think that men and women, due to differing selection pressures, are different in certain very important and fundamental ways. They think that the general societal practice is to ignore these very important and fundamental differences, to the great detriment of everyone involved. I think there is one prevalent stipulation that you are missing with the entirely reasonable sounding summary. I don't particularly disagree, or find offensive the ideology that you describe. What most Redpillers th…
/r/MensRights07/03/14 07:26 AM
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I'm neither as well, but "women are attracted to MEN and men are attracted to WOMEN." leaves little room for exceptions. As a gay man, I am not attracted to WOMEN, and resent that is even a thing you would insist upon; this leaves you the bigot.
/r/MensRights17/02/14 01:28 AM
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Talk about "equality" all you want, but women are attracted to MEN and men are attracted to WOMEN. Unless, you know, they're not, because both men and women are people with their own preferences and attractions, and while trends can lead to stereotypes, people are not defined by the demographics they fall into.
/r/MensRights16/02/14 11:34 PM
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:P I probably shouldn't have entertained him. It is pretty frustrating that people talk to people like him and say, "Yeah, MRAs are a bunch of misogynists." What can you do? Thanks for the kind words.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 10:32 PM
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Wow, I'm the one fascinated by myself... How does me trying to ensure that no one else is slighted make me stuck on myself; next to you who I'm trying to convince that there is more to society's success than the your ruling class...
/r/MensRights08/02/14 09:01 PM
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No, you won't. Because you getting what you want is selling the civilization into collapse. Yes, I will. Because getting what I want doesn't sell out one half of our future people for the benefit of the other. There is no level playing field until you convince society to treat men and women as equally disposable. Working on it, but my efforts won't get much traction if I'm advocating oppressing women in the same breath. We won't reach the future by regressing backwards in civility. Because why? …
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:27 PM
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So, in other words, you'll sell the next generation down the river to get what you want now. Or I'll give the next generation the same opportunities I was. Sure it would be great to be King. I can romanticize all I want about how amazing society would be if I always got what I wanted at the expense of everyone else, but that wouldn't be fair. Your judgement that society would be better for the oppression of one demographic is ridiculous. Society would be better for who? I may be "selling out" my…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:40 PM
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What price are you willing to pay for "equality"? I'm willing to accept the consequences of equality because I'm not interested in living in some "superior" society built on the back of oppression just because I happen to be in the class. I can't believe this is even a discussion being had. You know who else accomplished great feats? The Egyptians, on the backs of slaves. Do women have equal disposability? Yes. Women deserve the exact same responsibilities and freedoms as men because both men an…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:11 PM
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The facts and statistics are on my side that allowing equal opportunity degrades society and leads towards female supremacy. Wow! It sounds to me like you think that women are so superior that giving them an equal shot will cause them to overtake men (female supremacy?). So to make sure the women don't take the world we have to oppress them? I'm no feminist, but that is a pretty sad worldview. Maybe if women are so much better they should, but I tend to think they aren't. You are looking at it f…
/r/MensRights08/02/14 06:31 AM
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Wow, since when has it been us(men) vs them(women)? Where do you get off thinking you have any more right to voting or a college education than anyone else, especially when it's because you're a man and anyone else is a woman?
/r/MensRights08/02/14 04:06 AM
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Hmm, I feel like that is going backwards. I don't know why I did, but I super latch on to 'Indian' being used in any way to describe Native Americans. If 'Native' American was giving them problems the proper response would be to change it to 'Aboriginal' American to be perfectly clear what 'race' they were talking about. I realize this has nothing to do with your point or the discussion, just wanted to share.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 10:24 PM
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Fuck you and everyone like you. You can't just agree to disagree. Here's how subreddits works. They are a community of individuals united behind a common idea. A unifying name that all participants can claim. I'm not going tell you that you aren't allowed to participate, nor that you can't claim the name. In that sense, we can agree to disagree. Subreddits have front pages and top comments. These are the first and often only thing that visitors see. As such they are representative of EVERYONE th…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 02:52 AM
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This is not what I am saying. That's fine. I'm glad. I got the wrong impression because when you say anything along the lines of "lighten up, learn to take a joke," it sounds a lot like, "this isn't offensive, because it is just a joke" to me. Especially when you call me whiny for my vocal lack of appreciation for the joke. Instead of expressing disagreement... I can't speak for everyone here, but for my part. I called you a jack-ass for calling me a whiny little shit. I'd say that's tit-for-tat…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 10:27 PM
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Two wrongs do not make a right. Certainly. Now we simply disagree with what is wrong. You obviously think it is wrong to criticize offensive jokes because they are protected by the impenetrable shield of humor. People will always tell inappropriate jokes, and there will always be people around to laugh at them, and there will always be people around to criticize the jokes and the people who laugh at them. Then the first two people will defend themselves with the joke shield, and the third person…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 09:07 PM
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Again, I'm in no way saying that you cannot post and approve of rude and misogynist things. I'm saying that myself and many others that make up this community wish you wouldn't. I'm also reserving my right to tell you that we don't approve publicly. I do so in order to emphasize that while some people that call themselves MRAs are also misogynists, a more significant faction are not and do not want them to be representative of our efforts. I expect feminists to do the same thing, and it would be…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 08:36 PM
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By what standard is it not okay? Well, let's try our favorite, the gender swap. Is it misandrist? Not okay. Simple stuff. Not all of us are whiny little shits when it comes to jokes. Yeah, not sure I've seen too many of those around here. A decent contingent of us are concerned about the image we portray as we strive to be taken seriously and gain mainstream acceptance.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 12:50 AM
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You're right, no rules. You're free to post here. You're free to do whatever you want really. In fact, you can even post misogynistic comments (sorry, "jokes") here. That said, doesn't mean I (and I would hope others) won't call out your misogyny, when you post it, and say it is not okay. I don't think it is too big of stretch to self-police in the same way we expect the feminists do. Or do we not get riled when feminists make jokes about negative male stereotypes laced with sexual harassment? C…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 12:15 AM
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Yeah, but we get to give feminists crap for not calling out misandry within their ranks? I think not. If we want to have any organization and a platform to stand on we need to call out the things we do not stand for and divorce ourselves from actual misogyny. I can't honestly say MRAs aren't misogynists when they accept misogyny in their ranks. If you want to be a part of a men's rights movement that allows misogyny, then I think I'm with the majority here in saying, kindly take it somewhere els…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 11:51 PM
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And you all have been not doing a damned lick of activism to help men in any way whatsoever the entire time. Yeah, because no one here just got finished participating in Movember. The intersection between the people who are MRA's and people who participate in activism for men's rights is the empty set. /s
/r/MensRights01/12/13 10:35 PM
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Which means that they can never be used as a credible service for gender studies. FTFY There is still a lot of valuable unbiased information on Wikipedia. You always have to check sources when using Wikipedia anyway.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:53 AM
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I'm sorry, but I KNOW there are many women much more capable of doing those things than many non-exempt males. Just because the averages are different doesn't mean that you can draw a gendered line between should and shouldn't be drafted. Selective Service is sexist.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 07:20 AM
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I don't know, it depends on how much of an ass everyone is. If someone says "I'm offended" or "I don't like what you're doing and I want you to stop" I will take a moment and consider my offensiveness, and possibly adjust my future behavior.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 10:28 PM
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Yes, I believe that men deserve the same opportunities and treatment as women; to discriminate against a man for his gender is wrong. Am I still a feminist?
/r/MensRights02/11/13 07:29 AM
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Yeah, fair point. I think the comparison is still mostly valid though.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 02:04 AM
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But the number of people of each sex that is existing is roughly equal, so that would just mean that there are 9980 guys not having sex with anyone which would bring the average down.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:50 PM
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they're just saying it to make you feel better about yourself. In a life where your identity is constantly being questioned by everyone around you, even platitudes are welcome. The next step after the basic human decency of treating people as they want to be, is understanding that gender identity is far more important than sex. they were born with what they were born with As I pointed out earlier, that isn't necessarily true, but that is beside the point. I felt the exact same way for the longes…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:14 AM
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If people were referring to me with the correct pronouns Who's to say what the correct pronouns are? You honestly wouldn't struggle having people refer to you as a woman every day for your entire life if you are a man? My opinions are important to me. And I respect your opinions. You have every right to THINK whatever you want about whoever you want. Some of those opinions might make you a bigot, but I wouldn't deny your right to think whatever you want. I will, however, point out that in a dece…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:48 AM
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Your opinion isn't really the important part. The simple fact is that if someone wishes for you to refer to them and treat them as a women you should respect their wishes as you would hope them to do for you. If you are man: How would you feel if everyday, everyone referred to you with female pronouns? If they treated you like a woman, by excluding you from 'guys night', or casting you as the female roll in a play? If you started to date a woman and everybody called you both lesbians? If every t…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 01:22 AM
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Why are YOU so invested in how they want to be labeled. If someone's name is Doug and they want to be called Sam, do you insist on calling them Doug because they are technically Doug and not Sam? What if their abusive father is named Doug and they don't like to be reminded that they are technically named for that? It's not a matter of what you think someone 'technically' is. If there is no harm in referring and treating someone you consider to be 'technically' a man as a women, then just do it. …
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:08 PM
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but I'd like to see more of a 'arousal =/= consent' campaign. It is super not PC, and not a perfect comparison, but I had a particular thought the other day about comparing the 'arousal =/= consent' worldview to that one idiot congressman's comment about a 'legitimate' rape. You'd have to be an idiot to to think that a women's reproductive organs can just be turned off because they didn't want that particular sex. In the same way, you'd have to be an idiot to think that a man's reproductive orga…
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:16 AM
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Would have said this, you beat me to it. I'd add that I agree with 'intactivists' and support them, but it isn't particularly high on my list of bones to pick with the world.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 10:16 PM
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No, but holding an individual after a relationship responsible for all of the negative impact of a decisions both members made as a unit when they were in a relationship can be taken too far. I will add that the line becomes even more blurred as the relationship dynamics approach domestic violence interactions. As an exercise of power some people DO prevent their spouses from working. All I'm saying is that relationship dynamics can be complicated and it is often difficult to parse exactly what …
/r/MensRights18/10/13 12:37 AM
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That is a vast oversimplification trying to sum up the many and complex married relationships.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 11:36 PM
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I don't see anything sexist about this. It is an individual anecdote, not a generalization, and it implores the reader that everyone can benefit from reading it, not just women.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 11:17 PM
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They could grab the scans and run them through an OCR and we could use google translate to get a rough idea.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 11:47 PM
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No truly GOOD awareness campaign should attempt to rally behind white tokens for awareness. Here is another mark on the color. White Ribbon campaign is just too similar to White Feather campaigns. Utterly despicable.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:44 PM
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That is not my intent, and I apologize. As I have mentioned, I do support the movement. It is just difficult to get enthused when this point is always floating around in the background, and I would be willing to bet that it is enough to turn some happily circumcised men off from the point entirely. I'm no psychologist, but irrational defensiveness about a perceived insult sounds relevant. If more intactivists would phrase their arguments like OP and disown the elements trying to denigrate the ci…
/r/MensRights22/09/13 07:44 PM
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I literally do not get this impression from the movement itself. The stated goals of intactivism to end infant circumcision because individuals should have the right do determine that for themselves if they want is admirable. It is mostly individual assholes that make me not feel welcome.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 08:08 AM
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I can't understand why people perceive intactivism as an attempt to make them feel inferior I certainly don't get that feeling from the movement itself, but I have gotten it enough from individuals that it makes me want to avoid the topic. I certainly wouldn't bully or shame an intact man, and I would hope that the inverse would be true. Unfortunately, that is not what usually happens in my experience. I shouldn't have to get into an argument defending my right to not be ashamed of my circumcise…
/r/MensRights22/09/13 08:06 AM
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Probably because I didn't research and study it. It is something that happened. I have long ago come to terms with what happened. It doesn't do me or anyone else to dwell on it beyond supporting efforts to stop it from happening to anyone else. I can go through life feeling less than, or betrayed, or I can reject the notion that someone else is somehow superior to me because their foreskin is intact. I choose the latter and reject any attempts to attempt to make me feel otherwise.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 01:40 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate the point being made without attempting to make circumcised men out to be inferior or w/e. I've always agreed, circumcising infants when they have no way to consent is horrible and wrong. I'm not going to get all anecdotal and say that I wish I hadn't been circumcised because I'm not necessarily sure I do, but the point stands that I didn't have a choice about it and that was wrong. I swear, the reason most circumcised men can't get behind this particular point of advocac…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 06:24 PM
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:P And therefore I didn't bother.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 05:52 PM
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I was super tempted to make an account there just to say, "Why don't you ask one?" Since it seems they have very little idea what we actually want/feel, they could be enlightened by doing a little research...
/r/MensRights10/09/13 05:59 AM
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And people wonder why Active Duty men assume that the women that are supporting them aren't going to be able to pull their own weight. Maybe if men and women were held to the same standard the women who ARE capable would get the respect they deserve by default instead of having to prove themselves to everyone they meet. Disclaimer: I am not active duty, in my line of work there is no reason that a women wouldn't be able to work just as well as a man. As such, there is no reason for me to treat t…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:00 PM
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Isn't that already basically Sweden. Is this allowed? Can we just send all our extreme feminists to Sweden?
/r/MensRights07/09/13 12:39 AM
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Racial tensions don't work the same way as sexual tensions. A bar getting a reputation for having too many blacks isn't going to cause both the blacks and the whites to stop patronizing it.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 10:13 PM
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In these cases neither men nor women want to go to a club where there are only men. The owner is trying to foster a meeting place for heterosexual interactions which requires not having men be overly represented.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 10:11 PM
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You are a stronger man than I. :P I tried, believing in giving everyone a fair chance to make their case, but didn't make it more than a couple minutes before stopping. Brings back haunting memories of everything I hated about Debate in HS, except taken to an extreme. An argument isn't worth having if it can't be done civilly. I'd rather have a discussion centered around logic than a shouting match to see who can wear down their opponents patience first.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 11:24 PM
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A job market with equality of opportunity would end up looking a lot like the tech industry does now with predominately male employment with a disproportionately high number of unmarried men because men are on average better qualified for most jobs. This is the particular line to me that seems to be setting up a male superiority complex. Sure, in the tech industry, more men are more qualified for the jobs because more men pursue training in the field. Saying that across the board, more men are q…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:33 PM
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Correct.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 05:13 PM
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I think he is saying there is such a concept as institutionalized misogyny. Not that it exists in the developed world, but there are places in the world where women are institutionally oppressed.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 05:09 PM
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Up-voted this entire chain. Cheers for meaningful conversation that ends with people understanding each other. :)
/r/MensRights28/07/13 05:41 AM
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Concerning her "Erotic Capital" point. Do MRAs really make that point? I've just never seen it discussed... Attempting to rebut it as an argument against the MRM was just the solid evidence that he is trying to make a Straw-man to tear down.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 07:31 PM
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I have seen it here, but usually they get down-voted like crazy. One instance in particular was an argument that all men naturally have certain 'masculine' characteristics and the only deviation from that is socialized into them by evil feminists, and I was like... No, not everyone is born alpha, but he couldn't seem to accept that some people are different. This is only really an issue for myself and many other gay men because we're constantly struggling against society trying to tell tell them…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:40 PM
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It's a culture thing. Men are never told that they are not responsible for their actions when they are drunk. A man may regret drunken sex, but one who even thinks to do this probably is already smart enough to not have had sex with a drunk woman in the first place.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:56 PM
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I believe the larger reason that prostitution is still illegal is less of a moral question. I believe it mostly has to do with preventing human trafficking. It can be difficult legally differentiating between "I'm her agent." and "I'm her pimp."
/r/MensRights26/06/13 06:17 PM
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That is very unfortunate. I understand that this is an emotional subject for you, but you have to understand that this attitude is not only illogical, but also harmful. What was the ethnicity of this man? Do you trust people of that ethnicity with children? What was the career of this man? Do you trust people that pursue similar careers with children? What was the age of this man? Do you trust people of a similar age with children? What makes you so sure that his maleness is what caused this tra…
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:20 AM
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I think this is wrong of her too, but this isn't a housing advertisement. The person is asking their friends if they know anybody looking for housing, and advising said friends that a female is preferred.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:12 AM
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Preference on who their child should be around, no problem. Preference on the sex of the person their child should be around, problem. My sex says nothing about me other than the fact that I have a penis and balls instead of a vagina and ovaries. I will give this person the benefit of the doubt because in this context it sounds like they are willing to consider people of both sexes. The fact that they have judged males more likely to be a poor match is at the very least disappointing.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 07:08 AM
10

This is Anita Sarkeesian all over again. Some people disagree with a feminist and point out problems with their behavior/ideas. Other people start an aggressive hateful campaign against said individual. The actual discussion of ideas is drowned out by the hate. Just because you receive death and rape threats (which is horrible and people shouldn't do to you) doesn't mean you are right. We're not allowed to point that out though, because anyone who disagrees with you is lumped in with the worst o…
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:54 PM
11

To the top with you! I initially had a disgusted response to the title, but the article itself isn't nearly as inflammatory as it appears. The impression I got is that investigators need to not enter the investigation as if the alleged victim is lying. Which should be the case. Think of it this way in terms of presumption of innocence. We should presume that the rape reporter is innocent of slander until proven otherwise. It is still the investigator's job to verify all claims in the report, but…
/r/MensRights13/03/13 06:00 PM
9

Sign this pre-nup or I'm calling off the wedding! Next time I'm looking to enter into a contract I can totally use this. If someone tries to last minute add things to the contract, I'll sign it anyway and then say they forced me to, and that the additions are invalid. Seriously, if they are throwing out the pre-nup, then the wedding contract would be equally invalid. No divorce is necessary, though they do need to pay back to the government any benefits they gained from getting married. I can to…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:16 PM
3

It's almost like sarcasm doesn't read well... and something about Poe's law.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 06:42 PM
1

Why? Well, if it were a matter of defending my homeland from foreign invaders, I think it would be a worthwhile risk and effort. I'd be scared, sure, but I care about my fellow citizens. I appreciate the opportunities I've had because I was born in this country instead of many others, and I would fight to defend those opportunities for future generations. Fortunately, it looks to me like we live in an age when the deployment of a large number of living bodies for the defense of our borders will …
/r/MensRights29/01/13 08:19 AM
3

I like to think that I would. I suppose it is impossible to say without the full details of the situation. I just like to think I am patriotic/nationalistic enough to support my country in its time of need. That said, I would probably be rejected.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 11:28 PM
4

Man, I almost got a perfect score, except for question 4. I think I'm going to contest it.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 08:21 PM
1

Oh certainly, just proposing my thoughts. ;)
/r/MensRights11/01/13 07:20 AM
2

Nonono. I get what you were saying. I agree. I just think it is a separate position that would be argued against, that distracts from the core point. I was just saying that I think a better approach is to take their number and and compare it to a more meaningful number. By "What does it even mean to have an unreported false rape report?" I was arguing semantically, can't have an unreported... report. By bringing up the blackmail/manipulation you are further deviating from a meaningful comparison…
/r/MensRights10/01/13 11:39 PM
7

To continue your first point, it is disingenuous to compare the number of false rape reports (however they determined that number) to the number of actual rapists. It's a false dichotomy. It would be more informative to compare the number of false rape reports to the number of reported rape cases. I think your second point/paragraph is an unnecessary and weak argument compared to this. What does it even mean to have an unreported false rape report? I would leave it at that. If you make the more …
/r/MensRights10/01/13 10:53 PM
2

No, I've only ever been told it was negative. I have since then rejected what society has been telling me what I should be like and decided to be who I want to be. Trust me, if I were a manly man, things would be so much easier. Alas, it was not meant to be. Feminine men are STILL ridiculed in our culture, and you aren't helping. I don't care how you feel you need to behave in order to be true to yourself, as long as it doesn't walk all over other people trying to do their own thing.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 03:42 AM
4

I wasn't raised by the media or public schools. I was raised by my parents and my peers, all of whom, more or less told me that I wasn't manly enough. It was good that I liked space and dinosaurs, bad that I liked braiding hair; bad that I didn't like wrestling and rough-housing, good that I didn't like playing with baby dolls. The media doesn't constantly reinforce indoctrination into the andogynous zone; they constantly reinforce the idea that you should be who you want to be regardless of wha…
/r/MensRights04/01/13 11:16 PM
4

Good to know that the bullies constantly mocking me for not being manly enough were just trying to help break me of my feminine socialization. It is incredibly disheartening that I succumbed to the peer pressure and disregarded my biology by accepting the shackles of my socialized femininity. My father was never disappointed by inability to be as good a man as he was; he grew distant because he despaired of ever breaking me of the indoctrination my culture was brainwashing me with. Seriously? Co…
/r/MensRights04/01/13 09:56 PM
7

Men are not masculine by nature. Most men are masculine by nature. Many men are feminine by nature. The only way that it would be accurate to say that all men are masculine by nature is to eschew the traditional definition of masculine (displaying characteristics COMMONLY found in MOST men) for something more along the lines of 'displaying characteristics found in a man' in which case men are masculine would be a tautology.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 06:25 PM
4

Yeah, I think for a lot of women they really have no idea that it isn't ok. As a culture we reinforce that behavior by laughing about it, and we hardly ever confront it in a effective way. If the only time someone has been seriously told that it isn't ok to hit someone is by the person getting hit and currently being perceived in an emotional way, they aren't likely to realize the severity of the situation.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 11:06 PM
11

My sister had a serious problem with hitting people. We would usually laugh about it and say stuff like, "There she goes again. You're so violent." Just trying to defuse the situation, because she couldn't do any real damage. It wasn't until I changed my tact and told her seriously that it is not ok for her to hit people, that she understood we weren't just joking around. I think she is at least trying to do it less now; she just never knew that we were serious when we were telling her to stop.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 07:05 PM
2

Absolutely, everyone should be free to be true to themselves. But the poster says that cross-dressing men face judgement because men perceive femininity as inferior to masculinity. I was pointing out that there are 2 reasons for that. 1) is classic different judgement. An alpha male sees an effeminate male as inferior because they are different. That one reason isn't enough though, otherwise we would see an appreciable amount of the reverse occurring as well. The alpha male's superiority complex…
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:58 PM
1

I think it is because as a society we aren't interested in liberating people from traditional gender roles, just women. It isn't just men that look down on 'effeminate' men. The vast number of women I know still picture themselves with the traditional, archetypal man. I don't think it would be crazy of me to claim that if women changed their taste in men, then the men's opinions would quickly change.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:24 PM
3

Whenever I see young people asking whether they should take a stand on an important issue, and then I see everyone who will not have to face the consequences telling them to go for it I feel the need to add a moderate voice. I'm not telling you that you shouldn't do it. If you are willing to put in the effort, and are prepared for the worst, if you are willing to make the sacrifices (and there will probably be sacrifices) then go for it. Just know that there are a lot of hoops we have to jump th…
/r/MensRights10/11/12 06:59 AM
9

At first I'm thinking that they've got it right, it is sexist... Then they go on to say that it is sexist AGAINST women, and I'm all wtf? Do we really live in a culture where we should be concerned that giving preference to women, is sexist... against women? If that is how they want to rationalize it in their heads, maybe it could be a good thing if it gets us to a more egalitarian society. It's true, women are just as capable as men, and do not need special privileges to compete on an even play…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 11:26 PM
1

Actually, I highly doubt they were strictly preferring women. From what I understand, this discrimination comes up when there is already more men than women inside. They attempt to balance the gender ratio by discriminating at the door. It is more like quotas. One unfortunate criticism is that if the genders were reversed they would be less likely to begin discriminating against women. This is more because until it gets too extreme men are less likely to leave because there are too many women, a…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:20 PM
1

Actually, if you think about intent there is a pretty big difference. The club that you went to was trying to maintain itself as having a balance of men and women (this doesn't seem like an unreasonable goal no?). In order to achieve this, once significantly more men than women have shown up they must start insuring that at least as many women as men go in. This is especially true considering the consequences if they do not. If too many more men than women are there, most of the women will leave…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 07:45 PM
1

lol, nice.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 04:22 AM
3

*wimmenz
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:34 PM
1

Certainly, the world being portrayed was dramatized, intended to make the movie interesting. The 'reality' as she saw it was that the only way for her to be safe was if he was gone forever. Ender's Game comes to mind with his preemptive self-defense. 'I have the advantage now, lets make sure this problem never comes back.' I guess the whole point of my original question was to posit the possibility of a grey area where life or death decisions aren't black or white. Complicated decisions made in …
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:45 PM
1

<spoiler>No more along the lines of he abuses her for 5 years and threatens to kill her if she ever leaves. She fakes her own death and runs away to a new town and makes a new life for herself. He finds her, breaks into her house, and jumps her new boyfriend, knocking him out. She subdues him by shooting his leg and continuing to hold him at gun point. He stops and waits. She shoots him in the head and calls the police.</spoiler>
/r/MensRights08/10/12 05:17 PM
5

You are totally right, but to explore a little bit further, do you believe there is a grey area at all? If you have seen Julia Roberts's "Sleeping with the Enemy" would you say that she reached the point where it was justified?
/r/MensRights06/10/12 05:18 PM
1

Nope, nothing wrong with logic. I don't care about what is pleasant or non offensive. This pretty much sums it up... You and your righteous crusade to make sure everyone knows that you are right and they are wrong. SHOOT, I said I wasn't going to do this! Oh, you are good.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 08:20 PM
0

Gah! I'm not even a christian anymore and I still hate athiests... Yes (See I can use formatting too) I did not claim that my point of view was the truth because it was the middle ground, but rather my point of view is the middle ground, and I defended with the some of the reasoning that brought me to that conclusion. I have taken a position, and I have thought about it. It is horrible to 'mutilate' an infants genitalia at an age when they are incapable, but at the same time, insulting the penis…
/r/MensRights01/10/12 05:34 PM
1

We have to stop treating future involuntary male circumcision as normal. It is perfectly normal for a grown man today to be circumcised. It is also perfectly normal for a grown man today to be intact. You'll never get the support of the former group if you try to make your movement about claiming their penises are abnormal, you are much more likely to get a resisting backlash.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 11:01 PM
-1

I think claiming a circumcised man is incomplete, somehow less than a man, is unnecessarily demeaning. Wishing the comparison to be intact as opposed to circumcised is a perfectly valid stance. Yes, I was circumcised as an infant. Yes, I think it was wrong, and should no longer be practiced. That doesn't mean that it is ok to go around belittling the many men who were circumcised without it adversely affecting their life in any significant way.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:55 PM
28

I have, usually not from men though... Usually I hear it from older 'proper' women who think 'kids these days' have no sense of 'decency' or 'respect' ...
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:41 PM
7

Something along the lines of "I've been rape free for 8333 days! Go me!"
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:17 PM
2

It doesn't have anything to do with Amanda Marcotte, other than the fact that my friend, who I generally like and respect, shared an article by Amanda Marcotte on her facebook wall. I read the article and was surprised that my friend would support such a bigoted and sexist writer. I feel like you are attacking me for agreeing with you...
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:02 PM
1

Sorry, no. I have a feminist friend that shared this article on her wall with the title something like "It's about time." I think the friend is a fun and interesting person to hang out with, and most of the feminist articles she shares aren't this bad. In the sphere of gaming, which she is deeply involved in, you don't have to look too hard to see real misogyny. I share in the collective desire for gamers to 'grow up,' but this article isn't really about gamers, and is so wrong on so many levels…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 06:31 PM
1

Honestly, of all the discrimination against men that I have seen, this one doesn't really bother me. It is an interesting point to bring up, but I'm more inclined to let people get away with subtle 'bad things' in the name of art. No one was truly harmed with the policy, and men who were particularly interested are still allowed to go see the work now that the month is over. A large part of a lot of art is, in fact, the audience. I don't even think the discriminatory policy was against men as a …
/r/MensRights27/08/12 07:17 PM
1

I got hung up on the first line of the first article. "Seventeen civilians including two women were beheaded." The Al-Jazeera article at least describes the victims in a mostly gender neutral way with "15 men and 2 women were found beheaded."
/r/MensRights27/08/12 05:13 PM
10

I don't sit next to women on the bus. Sitting on the bus requires anxiety and planning for me. What if my legs are spread to wide and brushes against hers, and then she screams and accuses me of raping her and starts hitting me. Then I try to defend myself from her fists and accidentally bruise one of her arms, so the police are called and I'm charged with attempted rape... She has no idea what it is like being a man riding public transportation.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 06:53 PM
7

This! Every time I see an egalitarian feminist come in here claiming that not all feminists are bad, we collectively say that feminism is defined by certain organizations that clearly promote misandry, and that they should support the MRA movement which is more egalitarian. If we don't shut down misogynist aspects of the MRM movement we are no better than the feminists. I believe in the MRM because I support egalitarianism which I see as being hampered by feminism. Not because I think men are be…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 10:05 PM
2

That quote is the one valid reason I saw for setting up a place like this, and it is mostly on religious grounds. If you ascribe to a form of Islam that requires a woman to be completely covered in the presence of men, then it would be nice for a woman to have a place to take the children to play where they don't have to worry about covering up. Overall though, I do think it is a bad idea.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 08:58 PM
13

Actually, don't married couples end up paying less taxes when they file jointly?
/r/MensRights31/07/12 04:18 PM
5

I can see by your patronizing platitude that you have no interest in understanding the point of view of posters here. Makes me wonder why you bother. Let's just say that I wouldn't expect my step-father to care for me when he was first dating my mom in the same way that he cares for his step-children from his first marriage that he raised as his own children for 15 or more years.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 06:17 PM
12

The kids had no relationship with him. Maybe they will be his kids in the future, but for now they are his now fiancee's. There is a huge difference between the children you have been raising from from a young age as your own and the children of your current girlfriend. EDIT: So based on the OP and the above comment I got the impression that the children weren't his. As such, I responded to the jab by BoyCriesWolf as I did. The man in this case who ran out may or may not be a scumbag for a varie…
/r/MensRights27/07/12 05:54 PM
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