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Yes, sexually and fertility-wise speaking, women are more valuable because eggs are rare and sperm isn't. However, with the advent of civilization, I would say men are move valuable as a group. Men are still replaceable, but without a specific number of men, the castles collapses and generally that is worse for women. I don't think women want to be treated again as property in a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:05 AM
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Yeah, I don't think most privilege women have that you mention is for their own merit. Women can be autistic, narcissistic, and even nasty and still get interest from men. Women also automatically have a connection to their children because... they have them 9 months. I know fathers that don't really feel such strong connection until the child is like 2 years and they invested enough time to establish it, that is a huge advantage for women as they are by default connected to their children (igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:58 PM
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That is a very negative view, but I understand it. Men sometimes have to do shitty jobs and plenty of women voluntirly want to be mothers and be close to their family and children. But yeah, I agree pregnancy is harsh on women, but that does not mean men have it easier for not having that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:55 PM
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Sad but true. I think the reason is that society is entitled to it, though. They only notice when it affects them, such as the youth rather playing videogames instead of working for paying taxes and being "useful" (for them).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:40 PM
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I would say men have intrinsic capacity, women have intrinsic body value. I don't get why feminists get offended if women are valued for motherhood or sex or fertility... that is part of being a woman, and that is valuable and beautiful too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:39 PM
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Sex, birthing children, even just being pretty is still providing something. Agreed, but generally it is not something that requires lots of work or skill, it is just a property of their bodies. Still that does not take away the value, but I would question the use of the world provide here. Women are so valuable that even if they don't work or study, there is always a man that is open to exchange resources for sex and love. Women don't need to marry rich men for that, there are wealthy men that …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:25 PM
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To be fair, your body and its capacity is closer to what you are than anything you would do or create. Some women may find it insulting to be valued for fertility or sexuality, but hey, at least they have a value that cannot be easily taken away and they don't have to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:24 PM
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I think that is how women's value start, but that also helps them develop deeper social networks than men, so when they get older women are values for being wives, moms, grandmas, etc. Sure, a few are values for being workers and such, but even in the context of "woman boss" or things like that. Women sometimes may find that insulting, but honestly I believe that that is part of women so they should be feel bad for being values for what they are, even if it is fertility or motherhood, because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:21 PM
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Imaging living in tutorial mode (as women are) and still finding a way to lose by putting yourself arbitrary criteria and restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:55 PM
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Men don't have (and have never had) a legal way of unanimously walking away from an unwanted pregnancy the way women could (and still can in many places). This is very true. Paper abortion shall be a thing. If equality should not care about biology, just as gender is not about biology, then abortion rights should not be about biology either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:20 AM
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Abortion was never "law" to be outlawed. Abortion was allowed by courts because somehow they found in the Constitution that it was protected there... but later they realized their mistake. The pro-abortion party had like 50 years to make it federal law. They didn't even having all power for a few years during different elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:19 AM
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"We are the victims of X and Y... muh femicide" "Men envy us 'case they ain't us" - Women ☕
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:18 AM
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Your post is a little odd. Men do resent that women have that easy in dating, and on top of that they bitch about dating even being the best time for them. I don't think that is jealously but a sense of injustice and unfairness in dating. However, they don't want to be women, they want to be men attractive to women. Men cannot visualize being women, it is a totally different experience. Unless they want to be transexual, men don't envy women, they resent they don't have as many options as women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:14 AM
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So beta bux strategy is not working I think DNA testing destroyed that, and people are more aware that it is the actual father that should care about the children and not a random man coming to her life. It may be the most positive social change for men in the last decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:27 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:07 AM
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IDK maybe in eternity you get curious how it feels to have balls kicked so you choose to live the experience at least once XD But yes, it is a weird reality. Sometimes I feel everything is possible in this reality, other times I feel like a complete prisoner and victim of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:07 AM
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Men usually inflate numbers, women usually deflate them. I don't think only 12% of men did not have sex last year, I would say it is way over 20% at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:34 AM
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Its chad or nothing. Until they have baby fever in their 30s and choose the first loser to have a baby. I find it interesting that hypergamy is for genetic benefits but since chad probably got a vasectomy or uses condoms to keep the game, the woman ends up fucking men with bad genes anyway. So we have the worse of hypergamy, the worse of polygamy and the worse of monogamy for most of the population, all pooled together in the most inefficient sex market ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:32 AM
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This world seems like a kind of limbo. It puts in your face all you desire and claims you can get it and then it takes it away from you and you find yourself in your 40s and nothing you desired or wanted is fully yours, and it laughs at you face. It is wild. But I want to think it is a higher cosmic version of us that want to feel those negative emotions for some reason, like a kind of "I'm bored of eternal bliss... like make some drama" kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:25 AM
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No it doesn't. It's an avoidance coping mechanism. People do it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is healthy. It's the product of a weak mind. Giving up. Choosing avoidance instead of difficult growth. Some battles are not for everyone, bro. World is, for example, not made for neurodivergent or people with mental issues, and yet ironically mental issues is what this world causes. In a sense this whole world is a whole shit test and not everyone starts in the same spot as in video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:58 AM
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I would love a parallel society, not isolated or that, but a movement to make people the most independent possible... like exchanging labor with each other instead of taxable money, helping each other get tech to be energetically independent, investments on land, etc. It would be so nice but I suspect FBI and CIA would undermine it as they do everywhere. They even admit it, it would probably be labeled as "extremist" to just want to be more independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:36 PM
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Funny how women love men that use them as fleshlights and then complain about not being respected LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:30 PM
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Cannot wait for the market adjustment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:12 AM
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Most men don’t get out of their way to make new friends cause “i already have enough friends” and actively reject the notion of friendship with a woman. Friendship with a woman is high-maintainance for men if they are not getting anything out of it. Women expect to be entertained too. You are used as a boyfriend and husband, fixing their stuff in their apartment while they fuck other guys, all for nothing. It is a very one-sided relationship, as she really does nothing for the guy except maybe h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:10 AM
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The couple of centuries we had of men and women mating monogamously were caused by unnatural conditions that were always going to be unsustainable. I disagree. I think monogamy is a middle path between polygamy of men and hypergamy of women. Not every women could get best men, not every man could hoard all women, so they created a middle point in monogamy. I don't think women really would like the "natural" order of they being just property to men, though. That is what naturally arises when ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:57 AM
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All the gender equality shit is a facade. States don't believe it. Women don't believe it. It is just pure LARPing and the sad thing is that we don't know how fake this all is until SHTF. Countries seem to have like two minds: one performative full of progressivism and equality and full of hypocrisy and "look how good I am" stuff, and one real that is hidden but appears when reality hits, and the later is the face most countries had for most of history. They were just honest about it. Today, cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:33 AM
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Yeah, that makes sense. They are talking about a subset of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:29 AM
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Not my issue, I'm not looking for dating anymore as I gave up on that. But so it seems for most men, and usually for meeting women organically and effortlessly you need people to meet frequently. That is not possible anymore in most places. They call it third places or something? But yes, if that is not happening then skills atrophy too so even what could be effortless become hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:14 AM
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Sorry, I don't get what this have to do with my post. I don't even know if you are a woman because the post suggests you but your avatar is a male, but maybe you are gay... IDK, it lacks a lot of context, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:49 AM
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I think most men would be perfectly happy living alone and with no women if they had their own house and no property taxes (as in some states). In fact, for years that was the chosen lifestyle of men that never married... they built their house, had their land, inherited it to the closest family after they died, etc. However, men today cannot even afford rent. Jobs are shit, or they have to move to get high-paying jobs. Regulations make building very expensive to impossible in some places, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:47 AM
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We don't know, but statistics that prove that most young women are in relationships while most men are single, suggest that is the case, but the range may vary by place to place, city or county, age, etc. I think that 2% of men hoarding 10% of women, the minimal, is enough to distort the market heavily for other men. That is just being conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:40 AM
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I noticed mods are these days less strict. I'm also carefully on emphasizing the struggle is even among common men that have had sex, not just teen incels, so I guess that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:38 AM
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Seems like too much work for something that should be natural and organic. Some men just don't want to look desperate or do stuff they are not truly interested on for just maybe getting pussy. But of course, if you do have a hobby, exploit it. for dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:26 AM
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Bars, clubs, etc. now usually have established hermetic groups of friends. I was so happy when the only friend I have invited me to hang out with his friends, and even one women wanted to dance with me. It would have been not likely if I was alone, because women don't trust lonely men, which is a safety strategy that makes sense. But that groups of friends was not my group of friends, I was just a guess, and most men don't have any close to that. Those places also attract a lot of women with iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:12 AM
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Agree. I know many couples that did not like each other in the start and then started liking each other and dating as they knew each other better. Sociopathic Ghostic basically killed that possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:56 AM
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The vast majority of young couples I know met just hanging out, clicked, and then started dating. Not everyone "clicks", some couples start with two people fighting, having to share a space or stuff like that. Other couples are made of friendships and develop into mature couples. But I would say nothing of that is possible after school or college unless you are in some kind of social group, and many single men are simply not welcome. Even at church people are skeptic of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:52 AM
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Yeah, I think the shit of Ukraine opened the eyes to many men... like half their young male population dying for just a war they are not winning, while their women are fucking Western men. Imagine dying for that shitty disgusting society, and of course, women have the same political power to vote there but they don't have to sacrifice their lives. How is that close to being fair? Those are societies that need to die. Now, I imagine western countries are 10x worse than Ukraine. The social contrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:50 AM
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I observed that women mostly want to frustrate the chances of other women with men. Mostly older women, often women with partners, are the ones pushing for this gender war trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:56 AM
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The irony is that consumers of that kind of porn are mostly women, which reflects the erotica they want. Most men can masturbate even with a nude from their girlfriend. What an odd definition of hate... sexually desiring something now is hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:51 AM
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My body my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:49 AM
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It’s not enough to not be a misogynist these days, we need more men to be anti-misogynist. Sorry, you are on yours own now the moment women considered 80% men as unattractive trahs. Buy pepper spray or something, you are not entitled to men's tolerance or "anti-mysoginist" protection shit just as men are not entitled to sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:44 AM
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At some point it does indeed make sense to just play videogames and forget about dating for a few years. Otherwise you will lose your mind. Don't worry, you may be lucky meanwhile, but centering too much on dating or women will make you feel too needy. Find a medication or something to inhibit it. I wonder why we create medications for elective disfunction but not to control libido and stuff. I guess the reason is that is how men are enslaved and made to do shit for a society that hates them, by…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:39 AM
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I'd say the same for Education.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:38 PM
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Why not? It is part of the school experience, but many girls want more, like a guy with a car and a stable job, who is free to go everywhere. That is attractive to some girls. I would say most girls and boys don't even date seriously in school, but those who do also consider dating people outside of school. Women care more about what the man has, and established men usually have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:35 PM
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Stuff about emotional abuse, negligence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:33 PM
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You are right, too off topic. But it was an interesting conversation and you had really good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:00 PM
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Usually conservatives support migration of qualified people or temporal labor that benefits the migrant, the business, and the locals. Except for far right, conservatives don't oppose migration, and in fact 10 years ago ironically it was the Left that opposed migration the most because it disrupted socialist systems. The problem is that if you allow migrants and refugees to bring their retired grandmas and extended family, what they contribute will be spent by his family in the system. But I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:59 PM
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Sure, but so far no one has found a viable solution. Social Security solutions are based on the assumption that future generations will be big and wealthy enough to pay for the elder, but what if that assumption is wrong? What if people have no more children? What if migrants they bring don't work and rather take more resources than they produce? What if people cannot afford children? No one accounted for that. No one expected that. I agree this cannot be generalized to sexual needs exactly, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:49 PM
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Oh, I understand this. I know reddit is too American focused so I get your point. Europe and Canada are also facing a housing crisis. Increasingly more younger people cannot buy properties. On healthcare, the cost is a problem in America, but in Europe and mainly in Canada it is time because there are not enough doctors and nurses. I got my septum fixed in Puerto Rico a few months ago. From the diagnosis to the surgery, it took one month. I looked online and some Europeans and Canadians have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:44 PM
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Sexism is not cool, it doesn’t matter what the intentions are behind it. Sure, I never claimed it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:38 PM
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It does not matter if you look at a greater scale. Let me give you another example. Suppose 80% of population are old and retired, which will be happening in the next decades in Korea and other countries. 10% of working population will be forced to pay and care for them and for their own children. Rights that are formulated as such are always ponzi schemes. They require someone to take the bags, a loser. In the past it was slaves, or foreigners or an underclass. Today, it is the working class an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:37 PM
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I did not say anything about America. Progressivism, rights, etc. are mostly ideas of European origin. Is there an American in your room right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:33 PM
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although most men actually want to feel desired and/or share intimacy Men shall do what older women has done for half a century... just take drugs for that. But I suspect it will create a huge economic hole when men are not motivated by sex anymore, as society basically exploits sexual thirst of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:29 PM
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Yeah, that is why positive rights are often insane and illogical in the core if implemented to the last consequence. Progressivism is itself a "feel good" idea but if you look closer to it, all it asks for imply labor and constraints on other people's freedoms, and also assumes everyone logically agrees to their arbitrary new social contracts. "You don't need two kidneys, so you have to donate one."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:28 PM
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phrasing is that many seem to use it to proclaim that access to another person’s body is somehow a human right. Yet plenty of rights also imply forcing others to do stuff... healthcare, for example, forces others to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:26 PM
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Women love to talk shit about emotional needs, and how legally you must somehow force people to accept their feelings and their shit, and how emotional abuse is bad, but they have no empathy for real sexual needs. It is very insane and very selfish attitude from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I can think all men can improve and change their destiny. I'm not doing great either, just better. The wider the fork is, by time, the harder it is to change the circumstances. But that is life and instead of hating women or bitching about it, it is more healthy to accept What Is even if it hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:17 PM
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No, it is more subtle, people just don't look over you anymore, they hi you more, etc. but it is noticeable. But my point is that if such little female validation can do a noticeable impact in a few minutes, imagine being closer to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:14 PM
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Sorry, your comment is too abstrat to see any connection with my post. Can you use a more concrete instance of your idea so we can discuss it, if you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:13 PM
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I think it is many things: As someone mentioned, they are more masculine. They date in their social class. They usually get women in their looksmatch, not models. They usually were dating since school. I think they are more social, they have more guy friends and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:15 AM
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The fact that you seem to classify any platonic relationship between a man and a woman as the man being an "orbiter" reveals how sexist you are (to both women AND men). That is not a platonic relationship. Orbiter "relationships" are always one-sided in favor of the woman, the man ends up frustrated or paying stuff, and usually you are replaceable. Platonic relationships can exist, but usually between gay men and women, because men usually get feelings first if there is friendship. You have an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:04 AM
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Sorry, I'm not trying to justify orbiting as good or valid (I'm not an orbiter and I find it humiliating). I just understand why some men may choose to do that: they have such low self steem that just a little ego boost is enough for them. The girl friendzoned me but I broke all contact with her, so it was not for long. That is what any respectable man should do if friendzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:58 AM
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Well, most men don't date men too old, just a few years older. I also notice some men claim they do better than ever in their 30s and some of them see themselves as failures. Someone said that probably the reason is that there is a fork and the difference between sexually loser men and sexually successful men get wider.... loser men get worse and winner men may keep or get better as they made some money and established themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:57 AM
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Yes, I'm not an orbiter, but to be fair those guys have so much low self steem that I can see them feeding of that little extra attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:54 AM
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Fortunately, I'm not an orbiter. I just seem to be with her but I wasn't and I have no contact with her, and she came to me. I guess orbiters get a little of that and get addicted? But yes, at some point orbiters look pathetic for others, it is a thing to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:53 AM
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Well, you have a great point. Times are changing and these new generations are not having the same chances as their parents. We will soon see how society will adjust or if just men will give up and go for virtual gfs. The later would be ideal, women are too much work for often nothing. You think a hot 21 year old girl with a height requirement and looks threshold is going to go crazy over a basic looking 5'6 tall 32 year old manager at Home Depot? Of course not. She'd rather sleep with an unempl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:51 AM
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with control, unless men were raping women in mass on the streets or something, which also has happened. The demand will always be in the background no matter what. But don't worry, just as this is not women's merit that they are more attractive to men than the other way around, it is not also men's merit whatever privilege they may get in life, since libido often can be used to achieve other goals and that is why men often end up more successful than women. I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:42 AM
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It is no one's fault men have higher sex drive, but my point is that women are not like this for their own merit as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:24 AM
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I agree. The best a man can do is to break the prescribed status spell women put on them. In a sense this is like a shit test and men that overcome that often become more attractive (I mean, with some limits, but generally). Ironically that is why I think many women end up dating criminals more than STEM guys, criminals don't care shit about women's judgments on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:24 AM
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Well, smoking does have some benefits such as relaxation and pleasure, but is it worth the toll on health? It depends on the person. Same for being an orbiter, but for social benefits. But I do get your point, next time I will try to make it way more clear. Probably I did not choose the best title.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:20 AM
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Most of those cases are very rare. You are probably more likely to die in a car accident than be attacked by rejecting a man. I don't see many women avoiding cars. Still I agree that rejection by women can make them feel attacked and hurt, but that does not mean they will get violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:18 AM
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That is OK, there is no right or wrong way to deal with trauma. Still if you want a relationship or male friendship at some point, that fear may be an obstacle, but you may as well not want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:16 AM
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It makes perfect sense and your concerns is reasonable. Men also would fear men more at night than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:15 AM
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Men in your life wanted the best for you. Same for moms telling male boys that there is a woman for them (not true) and they have to be just nice and good and women will like them (also false). I disagree this is not as bad as your experience, because men that are lonely are more likely to be addicts or off themselves. Parents have very twisted views of reality when they talk to their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:13 AM
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I'd take my case, I'll never have a kid with a woman who is not at least 5'7 ft. The reason is simple. I'd like to give my son the advantage of being tall. That's one of many of my criteria. You don't have to worry about it. Just use the growth chart and feel the kid with all nutrients he needs (iodine and protein are paramount, a lot of men are not tall because they lacked that growing up). If you see the kid is not in a good percentile of growth in the chart, call an endocrinologist to put him…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:10 AM
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Even if women had it as hard to find a partner, the fact people don't consider women a threat for just being single, they talk to them and invite them to stuff regardless of relationship status, open the doors to women more than to single men. Proof of this is the clubs to exchange sex with couples. Single men are banned or have to pay a lot to enter there, but single women have it all free and they are the stars of the disgusting sex club.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:08 AM
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because women have learned how to operate within a system Women have learned shit. They can be terrible people, shy, fat, disgusting, live with parents, never socialize... and still get sex and partners. All their life is given in a silver plate and then they retro-attribute it to themselves doing shit while they cannot even change a fucking tire for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:05 AM
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It does not matter, women still have way more options to pick for relationships in the first place and they don't have to move a finger to just say "yes" to any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 12:03 AM
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They believe it is magic. I'm not kidding, horoscopes, tarot, etc. they believe it all is the destiny, while in fact the man is doing all work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:52 PM
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Same for men. So why so many people have problem with men watching porn instead having sex with partners? They cannot help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:49 PM
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Same with men LOL, men are OK with average women or even women less than them that are loyal and trustworthy. Since men are so sexual, they can get satisfied with women that are not that good looking, while women are pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:45 PM
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Not just sexual attention, just validation in general for makeup and clothes and trash like that, often from other women. It is just mutual masturbation of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:44 PM
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Women, media, reddit, "male feminists", etc. are asking stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:41 PM
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Diversity, wife not wanting sex, not just same boring sex, etc. Men are never satisfied sexually anyway, their drive is literally a form nature uses to manipulate them into reproducing with the most women, so obviously porn will always have a place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:38 PM
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Men who don’t use porn at all probably have a better chance at having a successful relationship than the ones who do Even if not watching porn would 10x increase those men's chances with women, 0.0002% chance by x10 is still nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:37 PM
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Lack of human connection and touch causes trauma so bad it changes dna via epigenetics. ??? It is not like they are having children or a family anyway. Better at least be sexually satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:34 PM
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Why should sexually frustrated, depressed, rejected men care shit about what is considered misogyny? It is like eating raw food because you don't want to use your gas stove to make climate change worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:30 PM
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And I do think it reduces the motivation to pursue real women significantly as well ...and that is a good thing. I find it odd women often imply that is a bad thing if they openly admit they find men approaching them as uncomfortable or even disgusting. The cognitive dissonance is very real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:27 PM
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WTF no one is saying sex is a human right, even when it is a drive as strong as eating, but apparently rights are very convenient. If you believe sex is not a right you shall support porn more to help those men keep in check the drive. Your comment is very ironic as it blames men of lack of empathy while you don't even sit to consider how harmful would be for those men to have zero sexual gratification if there is no porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:25 PM
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Same. Porn provides variety, it is easy to get, quick, no romantic shit, free, etc. Sure, love is important for some men but honestly if it does not happen since many people don't fall in love or no one falls in love with them back, then porn is a great option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:22 PM
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Seems like a chicken/egg problem. It is true porn may make men not pursue women, but since women are now pickier than ever, porn may be the best option. Sociologists assumed that less sex would imply crime against women, but actually crime is going down. Why? Probably thanks to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:20 PM
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Is it tho? When you're young, you're competing with people still in school. Women are often not interested in those guys in school, that are not even working, live with parents, etc. Women also mature quicker than men, so they often date older men (even if he is a few years older). In your 30s you don't need to be a millionare to be attractive to women. You can have your own business, a good job, a house, etc. and that can be enough for many women compared to men that have literally nothing exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:18 PM
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Exactly, men always trend to the extremes on dating, eventually. They either get better in the game or lose the little they had. That is why pre-selection is also relevant to create these extremes... women often pick men that had a relationship, even if the men were terrible, because "hey, at least he was able to get a woman before, there must be something going on...". It is a lazy strategy but it works for most women very well, so men end up with 3x marriages and 5 children from different wive…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:13 PM
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For one it could mean that they are dropping standards for casual sex. So it means those men always had access to sex by dropping standards, and therefore it was always easy for them? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:11 PM
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I find interesting how all the shit women do on men interested on them is not only unpunished, but even encouraged: gaslighting, mixed signals, plausible deniability, making the guy pay for stuff she knowing she will never reciprocate, etc. It is basically socially accepted emotional manipulation and bullying, which would never be accepted the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:09 PM
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I think you did not get the idea right, it is a common mistake. Let me explain. No one is saying that men somehow become 10x better when they get older, but rather men often develop wealth and power later in life, and that is huge for the attraction women have for men. All things equal, if a man is young and already has wealth and power, will be at that point more attractive than his older self. Older men also get more confidence and care less about immediate social validation. Sure, some old me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:04 PM
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Yeah, women have so much social privilege that they are not even aware of. But to be fair, that privilege is often lost by age or if they are not good-looking. Not every woman is good looking, not every woman has infinite sexual power over men, but almost all women have more power than average men on that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:00 PM
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My claim is that being an orbiter provides some benefits. I did not say those benefits are worth much for you or me, but for some men they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:58 PM
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It is quite funny to find women dating men with 3x divorces and like 4 children, because preselection make those men valuable somehow. Yet men who did not have a good start with women often don't have that social pre-validation so they struggle with dating, even if they actually are better than those divorced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:57 PM
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The devil is in the details. Some scenarios definitely can give benefit of doubt like if the dude is alright lookin and not a midget or seriously lacking in many other departments that other dudes and women can smell from ten miles away. Yeah, maybe I'm not that ugly and just a little social validation from her made the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:56 PM
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WTF they really see themselves as f*cking royalty. That is why I avoid simpling as much as possible, but sometimes you have to not look like an asshole. I'm glad your center of gravity at least acted as a true friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:49 PM
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No, it is not my case, I'm not an orbiter, but usually it is the guy who plans stuff and travels and adds ideas and surprises... but that interaction with her in a sense made me an orbiter for a few minutes, and it is not the first time something like this happens. When I used to go to lunch with her (as with other coworkers) I also used see how employees in restaurants and around treat you and try to interact with us, as they assumed we were a couple. It is quite wild, although maybe it is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:48 PM
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Yes, the cost is not worth it, but apparently it is for some men for some weird reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:44 PM
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It seems so. I suppose it is even 10x more powerful if they are obviously a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:43 PM
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They can't. They have to start lower and escalate, otherwise they will have no experience or confidence and if they start from the women they like then they will look creepy. It is a sad game for both genders, but that is by design. This game is made for most people to lose because that is the strongest selection for good genetics... until birth control was invented, which made hypergamy pointless as good genetic people are not reproducting, but that is another issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:47 AM
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most women are harassed in their imagination, though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:44 AM
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So if women do not let themselves be used as fleshlights by you they are not respecting you? What a weird take. I'm sure respect is more than just using you as a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:01 AM
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Women are already treated as frucking oyalty by society, by random men, by government, other women and authorities. Whole charities and campaigns are made for just helping one of them. If women want more respect, it is probably a problem with self steem or not getting respect from the same top 20% of men other women want too. In any case, it is a self inflicted wound and not the problem of common men giving them less respect. Men are wanted more for what they can provide, but increasingly women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:59 AM
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So stay single forever? Only reason women complain about being sexualized is, indeed, because sex is the only resource men want from women. They are totally independent on everything else. Personally I'm not that horny to participate in this humiliation ritual of asking women out, and that may cost me dying alone, but according to women that is not that bad, innit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:55 AM
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Except for those men who happen to be trapped by a woman with tons of trauma and past like that, yes, it is a win-win for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:54 AM
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Theres a 99% chance there is a dude uglier than you out there in a relationship right now. Again, I don't get why you make it about me. I'm not ugly nor especially good looking. I'm OK on my own but I do resent how single men are bullied and treated as 2nd level citizens from not participating in thei humiliation ritual of getting a subpar woman. I'm sure ugly men who try enough can get one of these women attached to them sucking their resources until they get a better man, but that risk is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:53 AM
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Then you switch from saying these men are “loyal,” to saying they’re using these women as placeholders and have no incentive to be loyal. Which is it? Good point. They are more loyal for the sexual options they truly have but they don't, and they shall not be loyal because it limits their access to their level woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:51 AM
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Why do you think so? I'm giving an obvious example, not saying all men or women are like that, but generally the guy is way better than the woman in a relationship because how horny men are... only that is powerful enough to accept this humiliation ritual of asking out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:49 AM
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Even unattractive women get tons of messages from hungry men. I suspect 80% of those men are autistic men who never leave house and many probably would not even dare to date in real life. But you are right, men are more horny, that is why they accept this humiliation ritual of asking women out, but online it is way safer to the do it online more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:48 AM
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I agree, but it's not a "false demand for women" There is certainly more demand for women than men. Even among women lol. Women are high demand on a very narrow window of time. After that they are still higher demand than men, but not that much as people believe. Who is really in true high demand are top 5% men who have zero reasons to commit to any woman ever. I'm not complaining about anything, though. You are projecting my observation on me when I'm not even claiming to be looking for anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:44 AM
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So many poor babies dead :( but at least they will not grow to be criminals by a single mom or whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:43 AM
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I'm not that horny to ask women out and risk humiliation for an orgasm I can get by just watching porn in my phone. Most men also watch porn anyway, even married ones. So only benefit asking women out has is status, and plenty of men don't care about that and the risk is not worth it if rejection can actually make your status negative. Women also claim to be happier single (although they are never single), so what is the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:42 AM
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In reality, the girl is more likely to deny she was interested in the first place if the guy admits interest. Women are usually Flaky on this, and depending on their menstruation mood they may humiliate you in public or become your gf. It is risky and often pointless in the age of instant sexual satisfaction with porn. In fact, men that actually court women are more likely looking for some kind of status, validation, or sex. Nothing to do with the woman, she is barely a person for them, and hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:38 AM
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If you have never dated where are you getting this info about the dating scene from? From Unbiased observation from a safe distance. Also if you don't want to be single forever and childless you will need to try eventually, might as well start now. Unless you don't care about being single forever which is fine. I never claimed that is what I want, though. It does bother me that society treats non-father men and single men as trash, though, even when we are currently fine with porn and videogames…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:35 AM
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Please don't add more answers to this post. I already collected the energy I need from posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:35 AM
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I’m not even traditionally good looking. Either humblebragging or typical idealistic girls that like romantic boys (but don't give any sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:32 AM
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Yeah, that is why women end up with psychopaths and ask taxpayers to rescue them and their bbastards from their bad decisions (eg. dating criminals, addicts, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:29 AM
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I don't think this can be fixed. I think that in the same way evolution make animals eat each other, dating makes people indirectly make other people the least unhappy in a predatory fashion. Why do men participate in this humiliation ritual is only horniness, and that is why women are heavily sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:28 AM
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I'm not saying women approaching men will fix the problem, I think this is fundamental of genders. The dating market itself is intentionally made to be harsh and make the most people unhappy and unfulfilling. Otherwise it would be no genetic movement, everyone would be happy and there would not be much genetic exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:26 AM
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They usually orbit around like a fly and expect the guy to ask her out, but most likely the guy just want sex and then in her mind after second time having sex she has an imaginary relationship with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:25 AM
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So why do women date criminals that treat them like trash? Clearly women don't care shit how they are treated, or even what men think about them even if it is ill. They just are as horny and project that sexuality to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:24 AM
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They are dead drunk in a near club right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:23 AM
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That's why men ask women out. It is a humilliation ritual, though. Only reason men do it is their dicks and only because they value sex with women, not women themselves, and rightfully so because honestly genders don't do anything gender specific or unique anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:23 AM
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Women claim that is not that bad, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:22 AM
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Exactly, which means only horny men that want to use your body as a fleshlight really ask you out, don't you think? Why would any half-decent man participate in this humiliation ritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:21 AM
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I don't think it's women's job to make men feel valuable I don't think it's the men's job to commit to women or care about them as equals as long as they can get sex from them. Same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:20 AM
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The one who asks out is the chooser. As simple as that. Not really, that part is the needy one (even if not really, the position itself is vulnerable), so that part will always be on a vulnerable position of rejection and humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:19 AM
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You seem triggered. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:18 AM
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No, it is the fault of the culture, the system. Women being picky helped them survive for long, today it only makes the market less efficient: men are less happy, women have less stable relationships, etc. Only benefit is women getting sex from men they like for a while, and men getting some status (maybe).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:17 AM
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The OP and so many others like him on this sub are NOT getting rejected. They never ask girls out in real life in the first place. They never even put themselves in a position to be rejected. That would take courage. For most men there is no point to try if we see women don't give chance to men even better than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 03:16 AM
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Women date men that barely respect them and use them for sex, even criminals. Trust has nothing to do here if women are choosing to act as prostitutes. Why it is so hard for women to just admit they are sexually attracted to those guys? no need to make shit up about trust or love or bullcrap women fill their mouths with to justify their holier than thou attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:49 PM
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Imagine comparing the value of what you have between your legs to the value of actually producing and creating something useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:47 PM
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Genders usually don't like each other as much as people assume. That is why most people find better friends among their own gender. This does not apply only to women. Just because men enjoy sex with women more (or so it seems) it does not mean they value everything else in them, all depends on the woman. Women want what men can offer (money, resources, protection, etc.). Men want what women can offer (sex, company, mother for their children, etc.) Love is just an abstraction of this. The advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:28 PM
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I disagree. I think men and women need each other equally, although by individual it varies a lot. The value women provide is, you know, give life and there is higher sexual demand for them than for men. The value men provide is mostly in inventions, keep infrastructure, hard work, risky jobs, new businesses (almost all successful startups were by men), etc. On fertility, women are more valuable as eggs are more rare than sperm, also on sexuality, but on terms of almost everything else, men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:55 AM
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That is economic value, but if both the wife and husband work, women usually consider other characteristics beside money. People are also not valued only by how much they earn. Housewives, grandmas, mothers, etc. are highly valued even if they never earned a living and worked for their families, and their families often appreciate them very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:43 AM
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In that instance, I would say a minority of men are very very valuable, but still most men eventually get a niche place in society in which they are valuable in a specific category. Hard to compare when the value is stratified, though. Women's value is more homogeneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:40 AM
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This is also common sense. The men having the most sex are not necessarily the most attractive, who often are just in relationships. Only a few men want that of those who can do such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:34 AM
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the problem is that the quality of men is going down The problem is that women are only value for sex because, increasingly, that is the only value they add to a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:31 AM
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This. If women want to have sex for the sake of it, not for families or husband, then they will want to have sex with just a few men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:30 AM
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Less physically gifted, less likely to attract women, less likely to have a great career/business. Men as strongly physically, they are hornier than women and women get pregnant so obviously men want sex more than women, men do a wider range of careers than women, riskier jobs, etc. Studying is not as valuable anymore, plenty of students are now working on McDonalds and plenty of professionals are yoked by huge debt. So men take other decisions that may not be as agreeable as women's decisions, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:29 AM
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I don't think men are inferior, but they are more replaceable. Men are valuable as a class, women are move valuable as individuals. On summary, both genders are valuable but it varies by individual the value, and on men the value varies a lot more than on women. Society need men the most to keep running, from basic infrastructure, to most innovation, defense and labor. Men perfor a wider range of jobs than women, work more hours, etc. However, women are more valuable as individuals. Women can cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:27 AM
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Yeah, many arguments against slavery in the past were that they took jobs from free workers, not moral arguments against slavery. I wonder if, spiritually speaking, illegal labor in a sense is like slavery and workers are, again, forced to compete with such labor. Workers are always fucked and slavery just became more subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:13 PM
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The truth is, modern men in the West aren’t working those blue-collar jobs, and are getting fatter and lazier. Our testosterone has plummeted, and ED rates are on the rise High risk and intensive jobs only make sense if you have a family, a loving wife to work for. Why would otherwise men risk their lives and comfort for? I expect those jobs to pay way more in the future as fewer men are open or able to do them. They already pay a lot, way more than jobs of people who studied and now are working…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:54 AM
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Yes and no. This does not mean you shall not talk to woman in your 20s, but they shall not be your priority. Make yourself your priority in younger years and then think about couples and families. Sometimes men are lucky and get a partner before that, but don't try hard in those years for that, try hard to be a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:50 AM
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The reality is, the average modern male is not good enough for the average woman. This is a credit to women, who have earned more, become more educated, and worked out. This is a false assumption. Plenty of people become even less useful after being educated, they become office rats, they don't find the job where they studied for so they lost all that time, they have thousands in debt, etc. Education in the West is a bubble, even for truly useful jobs, there is a limit of spots to be taken. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:46 AM
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Sure, but what does that has anything to do with the OP post?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:39 PM
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So? Newton, the greatest scientist ever, was a nut religious fanatic, so? You can find examples or counterexamples of anything. Why should I care if the first X on Y had a dick or a vagina? I'm talking about generalities in industries and jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:23 AM
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Their jobs were the first to be automated by widespread digital computers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:04 AM
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The problem is that Government made men to be necessary as a class, not as individuals. Women are more necessary as individuals, as a class not so much. The reason is that men's labor is quantifiable and can be separated from the worker, while women are bond to biology, women's jobs are more about human contact. Government is made mostly of rich men that are able to keep women, so they want to protect and make other men work and pay for them. Women get benefit, wealthy men get benefit... someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:05 PM
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Umm, part of growing up is indeed, accepting your fate and not asking women more if it is not working. Not pretending someday it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:00 PM
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Agree, just pointing out the reasons why it is more unfair to other men than others. You may ask and get a woman once every hundred, but some men have to accept thousands of rejections. So obviously it is not cost effective for most men nor it is the same struggle women have (which is to make men they like to commit) nor it is struggle of those men that already are partnered or are able to get women because they are not neurodivergent and they are goodlooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:47 PM
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There is no crisis of adoption in America. It is also very hard for couples to adopt a kid, imagine for a single person. Only kids not being adopted in America are teen kids with criminal record that don't integrate into any family, such as trying to poison them or light the house in fire. Those kids are better to stay in the system until they grow up, and there is nothing wrong with that either even if not ideal as a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:39 PM
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Is not it common sense? You compare people based on previous experiences and interactions with others, why would men in sex be any different? In fact it is worse if you get trapped in a relationship and now you cannot choose the better option ethically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:37 PM
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..and they can also adopt, which would/should be ideal. Raising a kid that is not yours to compensate not being able to have your own? Weird take. I think ideal people to adopt is people who have their own children and have experience raising them, not using children as compensation for lack of their own. That is fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:34 PM
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Exactly, and this observation women make actually prove the point... of course the only men they know are those who exist for them and those men are having lots of sex, so they assume most men in college are like that when in reality very few men in college get laid with some frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:30 PM
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I used it for shock value, though. Women also use words such as "scrote" or "a dick".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:28 PM
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Sure, but remember that a lot of men are divorced, in dead beds, in unhappy marriages, or had sex like once in a year and then they are counted as sex-havers. Not saying what you say is inaccurate, but it seems some context.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:20 PM
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No, women would claim it is kind of a inhuman thing or something on the like, that babies need a real mom or some shit. But some women would embrace it. Still I doubt we are even close to that. Remember the guy that got a pig heart, he died and no one knows why if the heart would be compatible and worked for a while and animal tests proved it was possible. Now I imagine similar obstacles if we create artificial wombs for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:15 PM
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Sorry, I cannot open your link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:37 AM
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And like I mentioned before, men don’t treat women like people. They treat them as vanity, something to attain. But also something that would hurt them emotionally and something to be wary of. So men shall treat women as people but also don't care emotionally about women say as people to them? What a weird take. Believe me... men that don't care about women as people, and want to get laid, are the first to disregard these social rules in the first place. In a sense, some women also feel visceral…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:35 AM
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And yet the median young man is still able to get sex nearly once a week. Barely, ignoring deadbeds. Also things are changing fast by younger generation, which is most single men. It is worse for younger and divorce men now and changes suggests it will get even worse. But that is OK, women are happy and that is all that matters to society. If women don't find a man, they just swallow antidepressants or share a married guy as it is becoming normalized. It is a very dark future for most men from n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:27 AM
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I'm just pointing out that women are simply not interested in most men, while most women are attractive to men. This imbalance is reflected in relationships, sexually and marriage. Therefore, it makes sense for a good part of men to give up on trying to get women. Sure, they can try harder and maybe get women, but at what cost? Your self-esteem? Lots of money and hours in the gym? Lots of money? At some point the price is too high to compensate for just being average. Sex is more accessible than…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:14 AM
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I saw absolutely no correlation between a guy's wealth/debt and his success with girls in college. It does not matter. Women still go to the top 10% boys, whatever it is looks, money, status, fame, etc. Women also go to college with nothing serious in mind so they are more open to have sex with guys they feel sexually attracted to rather than husband material, which means even more sexual hypergamy. I only mentioned money as such because that is how men eventually compensate and diversify to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:13 AM
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More than 60 percent of young men are single, nearly twice the rate of unattached young women, signaling a larger breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual life of the American male. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/ Now consider how liberal their definition of having sex is. Like if you have sex with a fat girl in a party someday that year, you are counted in the 40% that had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:54 AM
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The vast majority of college girls are dating/hooking up with college guys. *With the same top 10% or fewer college guys. Women are not interested in average broke nobody college guys with thousands in debt. For most men, it takes time to make money and resources and muscle to be attractive for women as relationship material if they are not genetically privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:51 AM
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I think you are ignoring the fact that just being "friends" with women can cause a lot of issues for men. If the woman has a boyfriend or a husband, that can cause a lot of jealousy, even if the guy genuinely is not attracted to her. Even if the guy is not attracted to her, feelings may develop yet she may still want a friendship, which also creates more tension for the guy. The fact is that most women are not open to new friendships, especially with random men, and why would they? They already …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:47 AM
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Expendable canon fodder shield, work horse, handymen, talking atms with legs defines men’s purposes for women. Sorry, they can get fucked and change their own tire or call the company and spend $200. Not My Problem anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:32 AM
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In your 30s, having little to zero experience, almost all single women you meet have like 15 bodies, probably started fucking in High School. Women will not love men that have little experience... no wonder they end up dating even sexual abusers, they just want a guy that knows how to have sex and some women prefer to take that risk than even trying to date a guy with less experinece. The worst thing, however, is not lack of dating experience but women manipulating and using you to get money bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:25 AM
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See......this is where the Red Pill sometimes loses me with the "men get better with age" thing. I think the redpill is not lying, it does get better, but only for men that already do well. That is the caveat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:22 AM
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No, I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just exposing the reason why most men in this forum and outside have issues with dating. Men that women consider attractive, such as working men with money and status, are not going to a campus, they are not at school, they are not hanging with groups of friends. Very few men are lucky enough to have lots of money and be attractive and young to meet women in the circumstances you give. There is also a bias in this forum, obviously, it will attract men that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:21 AM
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Something that would help those struggling is simply treating women as people. Being attracted to a person does not make that person less a person, they are people. If you mean men shall pretend to not be attracted that is also bad. You seem to suggest those men don't talk to any woman. They do, unless they are autistic, they talk to the nurse, the cashier, the coworkers, etc. I don't know what you are talking about. Women are not only treated as people, they are treated as royalty in some space…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:18 AM
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In nature is varies a lot, from the male letting his head being eating by the female, to killing her male children from another male, to men just caring for the egg while she is on vacation, etc. In human nature the process is more social so it can vary a lot and rules can and do change by culture a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:14 AM
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In theory, I agree. I also wanted to be a father and have a family and a loving wife, but I'm 31 one and honestly I don't see that happening in a comfortable peace even if it starts today. Imagine raising a kid in your 40s, trying to get your woman fertile because she is too old for this, etc. So I'm slowly deconstructing this idea of a family, now focusing on finding inner peace and pleasure elsewhere. From God, to just watching TV, maybe getting a pet... all those things can help even if they …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:12 AM
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I doubt you look exactly as you must look every day. We all get a little better before a date. Is that manipulation? We could argue it is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:13 PM
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I think my libido is too low to even try most tactics of the game. I rather just open porn and forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:12 PM
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Getting no female attention is worse. Women only find scary attention from ugly men because they think they will be abused or taken by force, not because they fear the attraction itself. Women are very classist, materialistic and capitalistic (hypergamy). They don't really value men as human beings and men don't complain because there is no other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:11 PM
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It is true it is harder for men to get LTRs, but also it is a huge investment most men don't want to have with most women. If men can get sex with some frequency, LTRs are pointless unless they want a family, and they can wait DECADES for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:09 PM
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Men already exploint their sexuality. Libido is what motivate men to invent stuff and create civilization. You can argue that men are also exploited for that, but usually men don't do it if it does not benefit it. This is why I think men will always be more successful than women, the libido is their energy and motivation and life itself, and women only have a part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:08 PM
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If it is indeed fundamental to start relationships today, then yes, it is fundamental for long term relationships too because otherwise how will you compete in this dating market? But you are selling an aggressive game, most game is very subtle and just that... a game of guessing and assuming, and white lies, etc. You can even argue that dressing well and getting a haircut is manipulation because you don't necessarily do that all days but do it to date. There is a spectrum here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:17 PM
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This, the game is necessary in a way or another to get relationships. The most manipulative game is, by far, the blue pill game of selling yourself as the nice guy and yet it does not work because it is so stupid. Even if the game is not conscious or learned, the drama and lows and downs add thrilling to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:56 PM
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The game is not moral or immoral, it is a method to seduce. Some guys use it for evil, others use it for finding fulfilling relationships. The irony is that the game works because women like the game. Women love the emotional rollercoasters, the lack/abundance fluctuations, etc. Women don't fall in love with their gay friend that is hyperclean, educated, organized, etc. They fall in love with a wide range of men, from rich and powerful to violent and distateful. The game is aware of this and exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:54 PM
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