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| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?lol, true story bro. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 10:54 PM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Mainstream acceptance is for Losers. You don't have to water your message down for mainstream acceptance. You have to connect your message to people in a meaningful way. PC is boring, but that doesn't mean you can go around talking shit without backing it up. This has nothing to do with my point. Why we don't try to reason with Feminists. Ya, and? If you're complaining about dogmatic responses, I'm totally on board. I don't think that it means you should let it devolve into name calling. Bill Bu… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 10:19 PM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?I could argue this till I'm blue in the face, because really all these articles are about battle plans, and tactics vary. I will point back to my argument that using Nazi Germany fast and loose makes you sound stupid. You can 'sound' all you want, but his original point was that one time, someone negotiated with Hitler and that was bad. So yes, Hitler negotiated. We'd better burn that tactic to the ground and salt the earth. That last article you linked says that traction is the true measure of … | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 07:41 PM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?So what's your point? For every feminist who argues that all MRAs are rapists, losers, sociapaths, and pedophiles, we can turn around and call them nazis? I don't think that's a positive plan. Honestly, I would rather see militant feminists painted as the screaming man haters that they really are, and just have MRAs continue a slow grind of progress. People have this deluded view that feminism is a force of pure goodness. Crack that false image, then start the insults. There will be time for mar… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 08:40 AM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?I assume the part of this whole MRA thing is to be able to talk to people openly about mens views and needs. If MRAs are going to be a serious thing, do you really think that having a bunch of people talking about how trying to argue with a feminist is like negotiating with Hitler will make that point? MRAs are barely taken seriously as is. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 08:26 AM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Sorta, but the way I see it as long as you didn't acknowledge that Godwin wanted to keep Nazi references to ones that were relevant, you were 100% correct, instead of whatever we ended up at. So really, if you accused me of derailing the argument, and that anything not Godwin's Law was inadmissible, that would have been a sweet example of how derailment works. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 08:19 AM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?I also understand what you're saying, I wasn't very clear about Godwin's Law, but really I think point of the law is more awareness about rampant WWII comparisons, and the need to reduce them. If you use Nazi Germany in your argument, you'd better have a damn good case for it. Have you watched any of the Obamacare debates where people start throwing 1939 socialism around? It makes them sound like idiots. Just trying to point out that you can't use Nazi's as your go to example for bad behavior. I… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 08:06 AM |
| 1 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Okay, this is going to make me sound like an asshole but I have to say it because it makes me smile. Riddle me this! By trying to point out that Godwin also said that too many Nazi comparisons dilute the meaning of all such comparisons, am I derailing your argument? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 07:54 AM |
| 0 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Go back and read the end of the 2nd paragraph of the wikipedia article please. Pretty please even. I double checked and everything before I posted. Edit; That's true, just because Nazi Germany was referenced doesn't mean the argument is invalid. It's just hard to take someone seriously when they use that argument. The logical argument is shakey, and appears mostly based on Reductio Ad Hitlerum. He could have just said that feminism exhibits all the qualities of a religious faith, and "You can't … | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 12:59 AM |
| 4 | Disney movies for children, and especially boys, that don't suck and aren't infused with feminist propaganda.Princess Mononoke is a good one(strong female leadership isn't necessarily good, Ashitaka is a bad-ass who shoulders his fate like a boss), Toy Story (bromance at it's finest), and the Emperors new groove. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 12:49 AM |
| 0 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Godwin said that Hitler references should be limited because sometimes they really are relevant, and demonizing everyone you disagree with as Hitler part 2 waters down that relevance. You think that feminists are the only people with the inability to make and respond to rational arguments? You've compared every religion, politician, and bigot to the Nazis in one sweeping statement. Congrats, you've totally made your point. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 12:01 AM |
| 4 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?They're just trying to control the frame of the argument. If a point is made they can't refute or don't want to address, it's either ignored or dismissed. You see it all the time when politicians blatantly ignore a question and answer the one they wish had been asked instead. I don't really know a lot about Feminist dogma, but it could be like Freud's psycho analysis. If you're not exhibiting one aspect of partriarchy, it's just because you're exhibiting another, leaving no holes that you can us… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 06:07 PM |
| 0 | WTF is a "Derailment Argument"?Godwin's first law, gtfo. Never discuss Hitler unless it's directly related to WWII | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Georgia State Rep. Yasmin Neal (D-75) introduces Anti-Vasectomy Act (x-post r/childfree)IDK if are actually cluing in here, but this is to BAN vasectomies. They're trying to equate a woman no being able to have the ultimate pregnancy stop(abortion) with men not being able to have the ultimate pregnancy stop(no sperm in the semen). Sensational and Vindictive, which is the heart of modern politics. Edit: FOR SATIRE YES? | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 09:42 AM |
| 3 | [x-post r/atlanta] Democratic women try to ban vasectomies because they don't like men having birth control.It's sensational and vindictive, pretty standard for modern politics. Not really MRA related. tl;dr Old men trying to ban abortions, Women respond by proposing to ban vasectomies. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 09:37 AM |
| 3 | A youtuber explains why women hitting men is okay.I know right? Girl beats up guy because he won't have sex, she's awesome. Guy beats up girl who won't have sex, tazer and jail. If anything, this video proves exactly the kind of attitude that MRAs need to fix. A person beats up a person for not having sex with them, no shit tazer and jail. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 09:26 AM |
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