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| 1 | Would you rather have a partner who cheats on you or who hits you (but never hard enough to require hospitalization or to leave permanent damage)?You couldn’t give me either, even with a free set of steak knives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 11:22 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Men shouldn't help/physically protect women due to the risk of protecting a misandrist or a feministHappy cake day! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Has TRP affected your willingness to date?True. But just because they are viewed by millions, does not mean they are taken onboard. A lot of people are just fascinated with the bizarre and unusual. They like to weigh concepts against their own belief systems. There are so many philosophies, religions, concepts, opinions, literature, movies, advertising and media of various kinds in the modern world. Millions of people view millions of concepts every day. Particularly online. You are exposed to a huge amount of material every day, you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 12:13 PM |
| 3 | Has TRP affected your willingness to date?Education is a problem. It is a real problem as education is foundational to life path. Funnily enough, I actually think this is more a problem for boys than girls. At that stage, parents have a much higher chance of influencing concept. Plus there is always the option of same sex schools which seem to be excelling in educational outcomes for girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 11:37 AM |
| 0 | Has TRP affected your willingness to date?Yes, I’m interested in that as well. The Red Pill being introduced to young kids (particularly girls) in middle school, pre dating, all in the hands of the interpretation of 11- 16 year old boys. All being responded to by teachers, parents and other authority figures. It could serve to be an immunisation to the red pill. It could also fuel same sex schools which is problematic for boys education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 11:32 AM |
| 2 | Has TRP affected your willingness to date?If you walked past the vast majority of individuals you come across online, you would never dream of asking them to sit down in a coffee shop and tell you how you should feel about yourself or how you should live your life. The internet creates a level of separation, It allows you access to a wide range of diverse people with a huge range of motivations, absolutely no need for truth, and filters out any addition sources of judgment other than text or edited visual cues. It’s interesting because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/24 10:52 AM |
| 2 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Yes, I have the basic idea on your philosophy I think. But you didn’t answer my question: what do you think the social security programs do? Targeted, what are the broad range of social programs targeting? Edit to be clearer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 03:19 PM |
| 3 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Ahh, ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 03:09 PM |
| 2 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Well you are suggesting removing all social security programs. What do you think they do exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 03:09 PM |
| 1 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Yes it follows. It absolutely follows. Of course it follows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 03:06 PM |
| 3 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Sounds like a society where there is very little ability for social movement without criminal activity or desperate acts. Also where there is a strong hold of the wealthy and educated over the underclass (both men and woman). Such a waste of human potential. Less education and innovation, the potentially strong struck down with disease, the smart limited by education and opportunity. Might also see an increase in guillotine sales. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 02:50 PM |
| 3 | You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else.Could you outline what the “greater good” would be and how your plan would get there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Women are fucking paranoidCool. If you think they are using the block function for illegitimate reasons contact the social media platform and raise a concern. Easy. If they feel the function is not being used in a way it is designed then they can give that consideration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/24 06:13 AM |
| 1 | AI gfs could change everythingIm more interested in how AI impacts right across the lifespan and how it overall influences socio engagement. Kids will be able to make AI friends from a very young age to bond with and offer support. Like support animals or imaginary friends who attend on their first day at school, and offer support to all of life’s little challenges. The friend can grow developmentally and validate along the way. AI can change sex, personality, and can be tweaked along with appearance. Download and upload to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/24 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men?I think a lot of these arguments are primarily about trying to leverage the abortion issue to the financial abortion issue. Many think: Abortion ————-> should be logically in line with Financial Abortion. There is no way it can work because —————> money. Not just at an individual level but also at an entire societal level. What is actually looks like is this: Remove abortion————> more kids, a lot of which fall into low socioeconomic communities. More kids ———————> more cost. More cost ——————-> l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 11:39 PM |
| 6 | Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men?Or a focus on increasing positive outcomes for boys in the education system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 11:15 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t want to be in a relationship or marriageOh, ok. I was actually trying to make the point that I doubt it’s about mental or emotional health. I guess I was too vague? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 11:42 PM |
| 2 | Men; if you were a woman, would you be a trad wife, or would you aim to be a “modern woman”.Is it really all or nothing? No, not at all. But from what I can see, when folks settle into a “debate” about this particular topic they tend to retreat to their corners and settle into these bizarre caricatures. You can see how silly it looks right? In reality, most folk just settle into a mix that works for them so they can manage a fast moving and complex world. Even that as a concept however seems to ignite displeasure and censor from some folk (men included), as they seem to embrace such a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/24 01:18 PM |
| 1 | The most common argument against financial abortion is easily refuted. What remains is mostly misandrySo, a few quick questions so I’m clear on your version on a financial abortion: father’s who want to “financially abort” from their offspring, do they also “abort” all legal rights in the process? So they sever completely all rights to their offspring in the process? can fathers who divorce their pregnant wives have the right to “financially” abort if the foetus is within the abortion window of each state? if young people still under age get pregnant, do their parents make the decision to financ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/24 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Would seeing your SO catch a beat down make you lose respect for her?I did a quick google to help you out. There was some variations in explanation but this was one with people’s opinions on the saying: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/i-will-say-this.3551471/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 08:29 AM |
| 3 | Why do women expect men to use protect them?I’m not pressuring him. Scroll up. You can see several posts above that I clearly stated he obviously did what he thought he had to do. I did state that in an edit though (sorry!) when I was fixing a typo so you might have missed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 01:02 PM |
| 6 | Why do women expect men to use protect them?she could have just confronted the creep if their was multiple people around. Absolutely not! It’s best not to escalate. You have no idea what the response would have been. He could have been highly substance affected or mentally ill and the response could be very unpredictable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 01:00 PM |
| 6 | Why do women expect men to use protect them?Yeah. I agree. Staying with the crowd reduces the risk. Which is what she was attempting to do. Sitting down probably made her feel better or gave her something to hold on to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 12:53 PM |
| 8 | Why do women expect men to use protect them?Well, that was my point. She can absolutely phone from the shop, but once again standing on the street and staring is not likely to get a quick police response. The police don’t tend to rush out for “staring”. So at some point she is going to have to leave. And yep, she has a phone both at the shop and the bus stop. But once again her best option is getting on the bus. I guess she could phone a cab from the shop. Assuming she can afford one. OP chose to do what he thought he had to do. He obviou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 12:45 PM |
| 17 | Why do women expect men to use protect them?Probably not. He could have easily have stood outside the shop (on the street) and just waited for her to come out. She would have the same issue trying to get on the next bus. Her best bet was hanging out in the group (not getting separated)and get on the bus. If he tried to get in the bus, she can then tell the bus driver as he has authority on who gets on. Option two is phoning the police and reporting. There is a fair chance that the police would inform that “staring” isn’t a crime or that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 12:34 PM |
| 3 | Who is the "good guy" who struggles with dating?People aren’t supposed to be doing that. Says who? Did I miss a memo or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner.Cheers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner.Cool thanks. I can’t be bothered looking it up. The gap you are citing 60/40 at 50% is for couples without children and no other obvious factors? Oh, what age range are you referencing as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 11:33 PM |
| 6 | Women should be taught that they too can find joy in providing for their partner.Hmm, I wonder if one of the factors is because men are often several years older in the relationship? They have had a couple of extra years to establish a career? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 10:53 PM |
| 14 | Trad wife movement should be encouraged.share notes. Oh boy, I’m sorry you have entirely missed the boat! I’m assuming you are quite young? Notes were shared! They were absolutely shared, in abundance, in detail. They were scrutinised, theorised, romanticised, and entire life spans compared widely. Then a lot of those people got old and when they were bouncing their grand daughters on their knee, they told them how clever they were, they looked very pretty in their school uniform, they should do well in school and when they grow up th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 11:40 AM |
| 0 | 'Men going to fuck everything' is a hate speech.Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Let's say women's standards are too high. Now what?Interesting. Is that what you found in countries like Japan? I’m not challenging you, I’m simply asking because that is not impression I developed on this subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 03:29 AM |
| -3 | As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism?It was never suppose to be perfect. This is why your message is a hard sell. The fact is, being tapped directly into the economy with employment has benefits that tend to balance the negatives on a whole. Woman outside direct access were always tapped into the economy anyway. They were limited by either their husband’s capabilities, the whim of the economy or the way their household budget was managed. The problem was they were one stepped removed and had less control over how it was spent and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 12:41 AM |
| 2 | As a red pill or purple pilled man, what do you think about feminism?I think it’s on fire at the moment, and it will remain so for quite some time. I’m old, so was privy to the conversation to some degree when the conversations were being had among woman from the great generation, silent generation, boomers and X Gen. For a while there, when I got older it seemed to me that feminism had quietened down a bit. The policies that were already in place or pushed in via the previous actions seemed to be still holding - healthcare, education, workplace reform, gender ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 11:23 PM |
| 2 | Most women who meet casual sex partners through friends and at bars are not hooking up with “chads” or men out of their leagueThat makes sense: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-number-of-sexual-partners-by-country | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 10:12 PM |
| 0 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doI am not suggesting BTS are not masculine, I am suggesting that their presentation of masculinity falls outside of what was described further up in the thread - something something rugged… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 05:04 AM |
| 8 | Submissive women are outbreeding independent women. Big boss babes will be bred out of the system.Perhaps, but then what are the percentages of “immigrants who chose to leave” (with the depth of educational and resource barriers similar to the Amish) and those that stay in their birth country? It’s stark right? Absolutely tiny. Then consider some of the possible motivations for taking the risk? War? Poverty? Persecution? It’s not all about human raw risk taking qualities, sometimes it’s as simple as leaving is less risky than staying. Sometimes it also comes down to pure opportunity. In fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 04:28 AM |
| 11 | Submissive women are outbreeding independent women. Big boss babes will be bred out of the system.There is a variance between sect. Not overly surprising, but I did get the gist that the core basic principles hold? At least from the link you provided. But I think this has very little to do with submission and a great deal to do with lack of preparation for …… pretty much everything to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 03:41 AM |
| 16 | Submissive women are outbreeding independent women. Big boss babes will be bred out of the system.I read your link and from what I can see there is not a great deal of “rebellion” going on, nor do they typically travel far from home. It appears more typically they might choose a different hairstyle, drive a vehicle or consume alcohol. According to the link, they are also still held to the authority of their parents: Amish adolescents do remain, however, under the strict authority of parents who are bound to Ordnung, and there is no period when adolescents are formally released from these rul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 03:24 AM |
| -5 | Why do men seem to almost exclusively focus on physical things?That is a big question! I doubt it is easily answered, and it will be clearer to view in hindsight but if I had to guess it’s a mixture of: societal expectations around being a “good woman” commitment has traditionally been connected to matrimony, which has been considered the correct environment for children. social expectations that woman will grow up, marry and have children. laws and social constructions surrounding matrimony What will be interesting is to see how the shift in social expecta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 12:38 AM |
| 9 | Women’s desires from a partner are simply more antagonistic for relationship building than men’sSorry to hear that. I hope it goes as smoothly as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/24 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doI see. I think what you are forgetting is historically established power structures- influence, money, power. They are useful yes? And not only to fulfil the requirements of “hypergamy”. They are useful for sustaining life, comfort, access to opportunity and influencing other influential people to do stuff for you - high social networks (invaluable). It is the nature of social class, it is multifaceted. Yes it plays a role in human relationships, but it also plays a role in land/turf ownership, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 01:09 PM |
| 4 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doKorean beauty standards for men are different … Possibly, though the study was international as BTS have a successful international following, so you will need to stretch that out a bit wider as a concept. Frankly they are marketing genius. Which is my entire point, BTS are a great example of successfully catering to their audience. The J entertainment market is quite successful as well currently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doThat’s not the entire picture. I also posted this below but will copy it to you for convenience: Over half of the BTS ARMY that took part (50.31 percent; 202,704) were under 18 years of age; those aged 18-29 accounted for 42.59 percent (171,599). BTS ARMY in their 30s or 40s only totaled 4.24 percent and 2.02 percent respectively. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/opinion/2024/10/715_306147.html#:~:text=Over%20half%20of%20the%20BTS,percent%20and%202.02%20percent%20respectively. From a sociologica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 04:06 AM |
| 5 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doOver half of the BTS ARMY that took part (50.31 percent; 202,704) were under 18 years of age; those aged 18-29 accounted for 42.59 percent (171,599). BTS ARMY in their 30s or 40s only totaled 4.24 percent and 2.02 percent respectively. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/opinion/2024/10/715_306147.html#:~:text=Over%20half%20of%20the%20BTS,percent%20and%202.02%20percent%20respectively. From a sociological survey on more than 400,000 BTS fans took place between July and September 2020 via a quick goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 04:00 AM |
| 7 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doYou are putting the cart before the horse. My understanding is that BTS is mostly an assembled group by Big Hit Entertainment selected by auditions and casting. If they thought a “manly” man would draw more interest, they had/have the capacity to cast as such. BTS are big money. I have no doubt that they are carefully managed around catering to their market/fan base. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men doHow do you think that would work? Show your working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 12:19 AM |
| 10 | Ladies, how would you feel/react to a situation like this?Some neurosurgeons would have trouble identifying their families out of a line up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/24 10:32 PM |
| 2 | CMfV: Most abortions constitute child sacrificeSo he is willing to sacrifice a conscious woman fully cognisant of pain and incoming death? Aware that they are being denied a safe method of escaping their situation and forced to endure? I actually find that incredibly disturbing. Forcing others to die such a death when there is a life saving option readily available is almost beyond comprehension. By far more disturbing than the concept of removing cells. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Proposals for child support reformNice, compounding factors So we agree therefore access to financial resources beyond “the basics” hold substantial benefits to outcomes? We have come full circle, this is why I feel your first point in the OP is detrimental to outcomes. Your second paragraph I disagree with. A “better” environment - and I’m using that as a short hand term to describe the whole box and dice that a higher socioeconomic environment provides - provides better resources, opportunities, support, less specific kinds of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 07:37 AM |
| 3 | Proposals for child support reformYou do not believe there is a difference in outcomes between public and private education? What do you think some of the factors of that are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 06:17 AM |
| 10 | Proposals for child support reformDid you somehow miss that education is linked to employment opportunities and health outcomes? That these things drastically impact on over all wellbeing and quality of life? Does it escape you that financial resources affects the quality (or availability) of housing, food, water and the capability to afford heating/cooling, healthcare or ability to respond to general adverse life circumstances? Did it not occur to you that the availability of financial resources frees up additional time for som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 05:54 AM |
| 17 | Proposals for child support reformYou actually believe the only differential factor between lower and upper socioeconomic groups is college? You don’t believe that. I refuse to believe that you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 12:48 AM |
| 6 | Proposals for child support reformHmmm, doubt it. You are then in a mess of “what are basic needs” that contribute to successful outcomes. The population is exposed to vast differences in “basic standards of living” and those at “basic needs” or below don’t tend to have the resources to overcome negative life experiences to the degree of those living above. You also have to take into account the impact of considerable life and lifestyle disruption. The impact of moving schools and consistency of education and educational environ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 12:09 AM |
| 4 | Proposals for child support reformMany are hostile to the disadvantages and behaviours that result from disadvantage. We also have legislation to address that. If the outcomes are more positive demographically, versus the other option then it’s a hard sell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 12:01 AM |
| 10 | Proposals for child support reformI don’t really care That’s fine but it does impact on a population demographic and that is where the legislation is operating. Therefore it does matter. The outcomes are important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 11:54 PM |
| 13 | Proposals for child support reformIn regard to point 1, I think this is a challenging concept. Post divorce the child’s environment would undergo a far greater disruption if current earnings were not taken into account. Upon divorce, the child’s living environment, schooling, housing, location, food/clothing/healthcare would undergo substantial change. This is not consistent with keeping the child central (rather than gender politics) to this piece of legislation. It would mean disruption to the very basics of their existence wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Most women don’t pick men based on their status or moneyNot sure currently. But I believe she was linked to both Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer who were younger than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Most women don’t pick men based on their status or moneyIndeed. It kind of works for both genders if they are inclined to wield it. Madonna is an obvious example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:19 AM |
| 4 | Normal men don't care about women who are attracted to terrible people.Perhaps they are looking for the leverage or access point? Well I’m: not better than Chad not better than the socially capable charming guy not better than the highly educated CEO guy not better than the “insert comparison here” I am better than the violent criminal or “bad boy” though! With this type of thinking then that is the obvious leverage point. There is probably some confusion as to why this social entrance point is not wide open as access to a pool of women where attraction should be o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Finances in a partnershipWhat do I think? I think the short and long term financial strategy’s and goals of the relationship, including contingency plans, should have been sorted out way before pregnancy. I also think the communication pathways and strategies used to navigate and maintain your relationship should be much more established prior to pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 11:02 PM |
| 1 | "males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging messageIt’s both a dangerous and damaging message for young woman. Eh, perhaps. I think it used to be. I really do believe religion (some religions) are passing the tipping point of being emotionally or intellectually identifiable or relevant for the general population. This kind of messaging is just beating an increasingly shrinking horse. What I think is particularly bad about this messaging, is the increasingly smaller number of people who will actually listen or try to meet the requirements of this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 10:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: In the wake of finding out he’s not the father, anything a paternity fraud victim does (short of physical violence towards others) is the fault of the mother.Sure. Those dog whistle issues are quite useful in politics as well though. You just tag them on to other stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 10:57 PM |
| 0 | CMV: In the wake of finding out he’s not the father, anything a paternity fraud victim does (short of physical violence towards others) is the fault of the mother.Im not sure it is entirely about Paternity Fraud itself to be honest. I feel at least some of the fuel is that some men feel it is a decent bargaining chip for other issues. There is a number of such issues that actually addressing would result in worse outcomes than what we currently have. That doesn’t mean they are not excellent bargaining chips however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 10:54 PM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]Would you be in support of educating boys in a male only environment from an early age? The purpose of which would be primarily to maximise the environment to enhance learning? Same sex schools seem to be increasing at a stunning rate, they are generally private education facilities though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 02:53 AM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]Ok, this is an interesting perspective you have here. I do believe that women will indeed progress into those “dirty” jobs you are thinking of. Particularly if they are well paid. Here is my reasoning: Technology advancement in mass production tends to focus on increasing output in both speed and accuracy of production. In other words it already out performs the advantages of male strength. High tech environments also tends to require a higher educated workforce. Maintaining technology, interact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 12:41 AM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]In terms of outcomes between the sexes however Finland is pretty consistent with the OECD? With a tertiary attainment rate of 46% for women and 33% for men the gender gap in tertiary educational attainment in Finland is similar to the OECD average. https://gpseducation.oecd.org/CountryProfile?primaryCountry=FIN&treshold=10&topic=EO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 12:14 AM |
| 2 | Trauma-Bonding is the most effective means of keeping a women's emotional investment in youOnce they are completely cut off. They will do one of these: Engage in a long list of erratic behaviours in an attempt to draw back your attention and “secure” the “emotional bond”. The deck of cards you are describing is not only held by the player. There is a corresponding list of moves available to the other party. Some of those moves are extremely unpleasant. The player often expresses “shock” when things do go pear shaped as they thought they had complete control over the emotional roller c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/24 01:05 AM |
| 5 | The default view of men by American & Canadian women is horrible and bigoted.Oh, super interesting, it used to be applied to men as well. https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780198868750.001.0001/acref-9780198868750-e-2417 I must look deeper. Would be a shame not to maximise it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 12:40 PM |
| 24 | The default view of men by American & Canadian women is horrible and bigoted.I love the word harlot. It’s just got more snap than hussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/24 12:35 PM |
| 17 | Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth?What medical grounds do you feel would be significant enough to justify mandatory testing? What would be significant enough to be non contestable legally? What medical grounds vs process/procedure grounds or legal grounds are you going to tackle the rights of parents to go “nah”. Keep in mind that you are enforcing this as a baseline to the entire diverse population who successfully produced a live birth. You are removing parental consent to decline the testing. There are legal protections again… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/24 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Paternity Test vs. Escape FundIf a husband asks for a paternity test, he is accusing his wife of something awful Well yes. If anyone asks for a paternity test they are accusing you of something awful. Don’t believe me? Try it. Tell the married pregnant woman at work that they should get a paternity test to see if the child she is carrying is her husband’s. Tell Grandma that you want to test paternity across the family to see if your Mom and aunts and uncles were Grandad’s kids and see how that goes. Tell your mom that you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/24 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Modern men appear interested in having kids or having a large family more so than modern womenAhh good. Hmmm, maybe. But I think that cultural indoctrination can influence both ways. There is no doubt that there is significant societal pressure on young girls currently as well - particularly in regards to education. It’s coming from all sides to perform, across multiple societal pillars as well. Expectations are nice and high. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but I don’t think cultural indoctrination only works in one direction is my point. There is no doubt however that the options are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 02:36 AM |
| 3 | Modern men appear interested in having kids or having a large family more so than modern womenOh! I’m sorry, did you get the feeling that I was stating something that is negative? If that is the case then I’m sorry. Absolutely not. There is absolutely nothing wrong with allowing people room to maximise their potential and these shifts have brought a massive amount of opportunity and personal development. And I completely agree with your comment. It’s super interesting and to some degree I think people are still playing catch up. I was merely putting forward some factors that I thought we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Modern men appear interested in having kids or having a large family more so than modern womenI do believe the pattern might exist but I’m not overly convinced it will matter in the long run. I think what will win out is that the societal narrative is not that excited about having kids any more. Child free weddings, child free high grade holiday destinations, child free restaurants, the increased themes that children are disruptive, noisy, messy, expensive, inconvenient and time consuming even in public spaces. Never mind the career and health implications which are truly undeniable and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 11:58 PM |
| 2 | I feel people should not lie as to why they are rejecting or dumping, regardless of the fear of a bad reaction.I don’t see the point. However if you really want this, write an App where people can register if they want feedback. It can be flashy with categories and tick boxes, the whole box and dice. It might take off. Once a breakup is on the cards, while you are having your final fight/disagreement and declaring you never want to see each other again, you can flick the link though to their phone before they block you. In anger they might just find it cathartic to fill it out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 01:27 AM |
| – | Body count always has and always will matterYou can see what most people see as “normal” per county and will tolerate. It’s pretty easily with a quick google search: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-number-of-sexual-partners-by-country Although falling outside the social norms these days in this particular area seems to be increasingly tolerated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 02:42 AM |
| 15 | The "College Slut Daughter" Thought Experiment (REPOST)Botany? You don’t want your daughter working in environmental, conservation, pharmaceutical, farming/agriculture, soil or forestry work? Ok I guess. But there are worse ways to make a living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 05:16 AM |
| – | The problem with modern dating is that women are now in the driver seat but they don’t want to be thereI wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes a more common thing. It’s becoming Increasingly common to outsource core life tasks as people become time poor as their responsibilities increase. It just may become increasingly attractive for young career focused time poor professionals as a way of reducing the time investment needed to find a partner. I can see how a good match maker who has access to a wide social network could facilitate the process. The thing is, like most things that require an appl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:04 AM |
| 7 | Housework splitFair on a financial pillar in a relationship does not necessarily equal sustainable across the relationship. The financial aspect of a relationship is big, absolutely. But there are other pillars of the relationship that you have to keep standing if you want a harmonious marriage. If you don’t, and you are insistent that your only qualifier for fairness is finances then you are risking watching your life partner drowning under the weight of other aspects of life while smugly thinking “Well I bri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:12 PM |
| -6 | Men’s positive actions are individualized while their negative actions are collectivized and …Stop it. The men in my life, (and probably yours), spend a significant amount of time and money trying to defend against men as well. Home and car security systems, insurances, guns (if legal where you are) strapped to your body or in your homes, safety lectures and processes. Some people spend hours on martial arts, workplaces spend money and commit hours on training against work place violence. Ask the military who they are generally fighting against and the effort involved. If you think it’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Is the use of makeup deceptive?Humans are delightfully diverse and weird. It’s why the nature vs nurture argument is so damn interesting. We really are quite extraordinary. I wish we would appreciate it a bit more instead of excessively screaming at each other to get back in a box and shut up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:01 AM |
| 11 | Is the use of makeup deceptive?Sure it’s deceptive. Lots of things we do to be more attractive are deceptive to the senses. Men don’t actually smell like “old spice” (or whatever your preference is) particularly if they have been hanging out in a warm night club for a few hours. Nor do a lot of their backs or chests feel beautifully smooth (if that is your preference) if they don’t wax. We do lots of weird stuff - tattoos, piercings, perfumes/scents, hair/beard gels, waxing, dental bleaching/braces to improve the experience. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 06:55 AM |
| 2 | What non-anecdotal evidence do we have that women are happier in marriage now than they were in historical retrospective?The terms of the contract are simply that and outlined prior to entering. In this particular case, for marriage the terms of the contract are that one individual can if they go through the established legal procedure exit the contract. It is well established legally, that under no fault divorce, one person can apply to leave the contract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?To quote: Put a “>” and then continue by typing what you want quoted. So: I want to quote this text Is actually “> I want to quote this text” (without the quotation marks) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeI understand they happen. We are talking about leadership roles and “who is ultimately in charge”. There is a decent chance, either male or female, good old fashioned nepotism played a role before gender quotas. If you are a woman with nepotism on your side, you weren’t exactly lining up for your place in the gender quota to begin with were you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeNonsense. You and I both know that woman are performing very well in lower and upper education and it’s working its way through many areas of employment. Feel free to win the “debate” I really don’t care, but the nonsense is boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 12:25 AM |
| – | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?Ok. Just out of curiosity why do you think woman aren’t not conscripted? I mean real talk, the practical “we need to win or we are all dead/starving in war” stuff, not just “lol, woman would throw a hissy fit”stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 12:20 AM |
| 0 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargePursuing anything helps everyone develop persistence, leadership, and drive! Reaching a goal drives motivation, motivation drives goal formulation, goal formulation drives success. It works for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 12:16 AM |
| 9 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesIt’s marketing, nothing more. It’s content to be sold. No different to making content for travel shows, cooking shows, cars. They are huge sellers. Recently the younger folk have a bit of an itch about the “good old days”. There is lots of neat stuff if you look for it - the older skills, cooking, knitting, sewing, blacksmithing, restoring absolutely anything, living off grid, heaps of variations around farming, car restoration, anything with fire seems a big hit. The Trad wife online thing is j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeGender quotas? It’s such a quaint concept. Let’s face it, they probably got there through nepotism just like everyone else. Just as it has always been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeDon’t be silly, it makes a great deal of difference who is in charge. It makes no sense at all worrying about something as inconsequential as to whether that person is a man or a woman. There are much bigger things to worry about like if they are insane, malicious, or just plain old fashioned garden variety corrupt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:24 PM |
| 0 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeWhy would I be worried? What I described is normal everyday life. Best you get used to the idea. It’s not going away any time soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:16 PM |
| – | Which man is more desirable to a lower-class or poor working-class woman?Oh, that’s easy. There is a very wide concept of “poor”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 11:10 PM |
| 8 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeAnd? How does that affect you? Can you phone them to ask for a favour because you are a man? Will they step up and help you out? Will that stop your female boss from allocating you the worst shifts, or giving you are bad performance review? Will that stop your female lecturer from one of your core subjects from giving you a poor grade? Or stop you turning up for a job interview and finding two out of three people on the panel happen to be women? Will it mean that if you are transported to ER tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 03:20 AM |
| 15 | Bumble Backtracking is Proof That Men Will Always Be in ChargeDude, women already hold leadership positions in society. There is nothing new. Chances are if you are a normal everyday person, there are both a man and woman holding a position of power directly over your life that could make extraordinary positive or negative changes and there is very little you can do about it - policy, legally, promotions, the person who marks your assignment, your boss, your doctor/ surgeon, your landlord…. If you are talking about “ruling the world?” Or an ultimate power?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 03:02 AM |
| 4 | Which man is more desirable to a lower-class or poor working-class woman?Incorrect. Everything else is not held constant. What you are now primarily measuring is the value of “class” and we already have known the inherent value of social classes for generations. There are two primary ways of shifting between the social classes - marriage and/or education. You have allocated the man both benefits. She will marry him if she is not a fool but not because his age isn’t suddenly not a consideration or insignificant. You also already know the statistics on the general outc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/24 12:20 AM |
| – | Why is being a "bitch" equated to being trendy/popular in Western Culture?If you say so. I was just doing a public service announcement. It’s not like I thought it would stick. Carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 01:49 AM |
| – | Why is being a "bitch" equated to being trendy/popular in Western Culture?That’s “other men” and women who are competent enough to seek ideas and opportunity where they can be sourced. Not fools who are stuck fast in rhetoric and therefore miss the wood for the trees. You are frighteningly naive if you think all men are “better” than all women. It’s a recipe for being blindly led down the garden path and manipulated by anyone who is willing to sell you fairy tales. You have a glaring easily manipulated blind spot. You are likely to make some very dubious, in fact pote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Why is being a "bitch" equated to being trendy/popular in Western Culture?“Bitch” is a very widely used term these days, it has both positive and negative connotations. 40 years ago it was used differently, considered quite a high ranking swear word and was almost entirely held negative connotations clustered around themes of being nasty. Now it is more associated with themes of rebellion, bravery, bold, survival, go getter. It’s not entirely positive, but there is a recognition that “making waves” leads to a much higher chance of success than more passive behaviour, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 10:29 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There are arguable equal number of women who hate men as men who hate womenprotective double think Perhaps, or it just an underlying narrative that has always existed and we leave the ending off the sentence to be polite. Perhaps “woman” don’t have a bigotry problem, perhaps they are just expressing the general societal narrative in a different way from men? After all, there is a barely spoken about (in polite society) themes about men as a group. Little boys are taught to fight other little boys and learn very early that it’s “manly” to be able to fend off other boys/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about shaming people for having synthetic SOs?We have learned from the Matrix though. Perhaps we should have been paying more attention to Terminator or Blade Runner! 😩 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about shaming people for having synthetic SOs?Hmmm, sure. Settings are all very well and good, but I can only really take a guess that the default mode would most likely be “my very best friend who is like me”. Particularly if the habit is picked up in childhood. I would be a bit surprised if kids went for a setting that pushed against what they most identified with - it would be more likely be more like buying the first doll of choice. Something that they identify with, that is reflective of hopes and dreams. Then it just becomes habit. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 02:21 AM |
| 1 | The sprinkle sprinkle movement is just a natural reaction to the rise in men adopting TRPI think this is a complicated theory that ignores the most obvious factor. Economic reality and common adult life goals. If the standard adult wants a house these days most couples will need two viable, stable incomes. If you want children, or even one child, there is likely to be a period of time where your costs will need to be covered by one. Even if it’s just post birth recovery. Then both will probably need to return to the workforce and both need to do home related tasks if you want to avo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think about shaming people for having synthetic SOs?You can expand out from this as well. It’s unrealistic to think it will start at dating. A child can create an AI best friend at a very young age. That friend can go everywhere with them - school, the movies, do homework, other big life events. That AI can even “grow” with them and become their partner. All with “perfect” characteristics and thought processes to never challenge you or make you navigate any real life conflict or relationship challenges. They could even create little AI children a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 11:31 PM |
| 5 | Polls results from UCSB students (from yik yak)Interesting. Thanks OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 04:00 AM |
| 6 | Can women feel true empathy for men?Thanks for confirming my summary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Can women feel true empathy for men?Yep, it’s a slow morning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 12:33 AM |
| 4 | Can women feel true empathy for men?problematic Well, not just that. It’s highly impractical, not enforceable, and probably not overly efficient. Plus, it’s dubious on its original premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 12:26 AM |
| 7 | Can women feel true empathy for men?I’m confused as well. I think he is saying that women have traditionally “absorbed” negative male emotions traditionally as a societal service. Therefore if they are no longer willing to do so, then it is their collective responsibility to either provide or fund an alternative service? I think he is also saying that due to the “male loneliness epidemic” the emotional state of men generally has reached “traumatic” levels, and therefore trauma dumping will (or could?) be detrimental to heterosexua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/24 12:01 AM |
| 1 | If a woman has the right to an outing to pregnancy, a man should have access to that same outing with no problems.Ok, but the problem is that it’s complicated and almost impossible to do both in a societal framework or legally. There is also the rights and wellbeing of 3 people (after birth) that societal and legal frameworks have to account for, not 2. It also has to default and the default position is that everyone retains the rights over their biological prodigy. The timeframe to wave those rights is very tight, the fallout huge, and once again crashes into the rights of others. In other words, it’s comp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 12:02 AM |
| 1 | At what age would you not have a problem with a woman dating a man 20 years older than her?No, I don’t think it is in any way a slavery thing. In fact not even close. I think it is actually a developmental thing, and also extremely natural. Young people change, grow, educate (formally or informally), on a spectrum into adulthood. They don’t have a birthday and then “bam!” adulthood. Any more than childhood is fixed on one developmental stage. Adulthood itself is a spectrum, we divide it into life stages for a reason. Young adults are (hopefully) exploring options, developing a sense o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 01:33 AM |
| 3 | A 40 year old woman switches bodies with her 20 year old daughter. Which of them do you think more men would want to date?Brass tacks. Meaning: to start to discuss or consider the most important details or facts about something. It’s a great saying. I looked up where it came from after I read your comment. This is what I found: Why do we say "getting down to brass tacks"? The origin of the first phrase, dating from the late 1800s, is disputed. Some believe it alludes to the brass tacks used under fine upholstery, others that it is Cockney rhyming slang for “hard facts,” and still others that it alludes to tacks ham… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 12:45 AM |
| 1 | At what age would you not have a problem with a woman dating a man 20 years older than her?It’s not about sex at all for me. The sex is the least of the problems. I care a great deal if he doesn’t go away (swiftly) and instead fast tracks her life path into another stage of life and tries to fit her into his goals/dreams before she has had the opportunity to formulate her own. BTW, I would also care a great deal if it was a son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | At what age would you not have a problem with a woman dating a man 20 years older than her?Depends. Are we talking about my kids or someone else’s? Short answer is around 26. Longer answer is that it depends what the rest of their life looks like and who it is they are considering attaching themselves to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 11:49 PM |
| 1 | 50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzleYes, I believe so, quite a few don’t though because it is quite hard to make work. Everyone has good intentions in the beginning but some find themselves not following through. For instance, you promise your wife that once both children are old enough for daycare she can get her nursing qualifications and focus in her career. However in that time you have earned a considerable promotion and the family doesn’t actually need the money from her working as a nurse. It also won’t reflect well in your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 11:08 PM |
| 1 | 50/50 should be the norm, anyone who think otherwise is entitled. Drizzle drizzleTrue. The difference is 50/50 in dating or LT relationships. In LT relationships a viable strategy is 50/50 across the marriage rather than in the moment and it requires trust, determination, support and communication to make that happen. Adult long term goals take time, particularly the really good ones. If both people have education/ employment goals then sometimes you might have to take turns, a sacrifice will probably be made by both of you, and who goes first will be determined by both of y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 12:09 AM |
| 8 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?It probably won’t be that subtle :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 02:35 AM |
| 106 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?Ok then cut out the “bitter old woman” in the dialogue. It’s an easy fix. Rock up to her parent’s house for Sunday lunch and get a feel for the climate in the room. People only tend to get concerned when “age gap” refers to very young adults who are getting “attention” from people that are quite a bit “older”. BTW, very few parents are going to be happy if you are an older woman rocking up for Sunday lunch with their very young adult son either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Based on the "logic" of the Sexual Revolution and women's observed behavior there is nothing wrong with men wanting casual sex and not settling down. We should anticipate this behavior.to benefit so many people. Oh, I’m so on board with this comment. But the changes also came with so much opportunity for so many people! Pros and cons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 01:01 AM |
| 2 | The effort it takes to keep your partner attracted vs the effort of finding a new partnerBe careful trying this at home kids. It keeps her into you because she knows that you can leave at any time and find another woman and makes her want you more. Right up until she stops trying because the load in your relationship increased, particularly with children. Other things can also load, like financial issues or health but it is children that often leverage the cracks and catches people by surprise. If you prompt your wife to need to plan against the contingency that you may leave, your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 12:34 AM |
| 3 | Based on the "logic" of the Sexual Revolution and women's observed behavior there is nothing wrong with men wanting casual sex and not settling down. We should anticipate this behavior.I don’t disagree with a lot of what you wrote once again. What on earth is happening. I do feel I’m probably a bit more optimistic than you though and am not really surprised by the challenges considering we are speed running technological and social change along side a demanding economy where young people are finding it hard to reach long term goals and catch their breath. You are right though, it is not sustainable, useful or efficient for a lot of people to thrive in its current form particul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Based on the "logic" of the Sexual Revolution and women's observed behavior there is nothing wrong with men wanting casual sex and not settling down. We should anticipate this behavior.Ok, I have no problem with what you wrote. I agree that most social and cultural things belong on a continuum. How do you feel about the rest of my point? I’m actually interested in your thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:45 AM |
| 29 | Why do people, especially women, have such a hard-time accepting that humans are also animals?I think people kind of hold some expectations for humans that we perhaps don’t hold for ducks or cats. It could have something to do with our seemly awesome ability to behave and achieve beyond other animals on this planet. I mean, walking on the moon was kind of neat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 04:09 AM |
| 2 | Based on the "logic" of the Sexual Revolution and women's observed behavior there is nothing wrong with men wanting casual sex and not settling down. We should anticipate this behavior.We do, sure but lying can be a very widely wielded weapon. It’s convenient to shrug it off when you are trying to justify your behaviour (or concept) but you must remember that it is very easy to do and can be used against you just as easily and the applications are very wide. Lying is also generally judged right across the spectrum. It’s not like it is going to be parsed out for this instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 01:31 AM |
| 6 | Based on the "logic" of the Sexual Revolution and women's observed behavior there is nothing wrong with men wanting casual sex and not settling down. We should anticipate this behavior.The Sexual Revolution happened a long time ago. I really don’t think it’s a problem with people acknowledging that casual sex is a thing - it’s now quite accepted that both women and men have the option to engage in casual sex and even Grandma knows that… What seems to be a bit of a sticking point is there seems to be a bit of a debate about how we (the social “we”) should be viewing and treating people who engage in casual sex along with how we (the social “we”) should be viewing and treating p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Do you want kids? Why or why not? How many do you want? Also, how old are you?“to have children is to give hostages to fate. John F. Kennedy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 06:00 AM |
| – | Do some women actually worry when a guy who seems 'too good to be true' ?I can’t actually imagine them having better dates - they were open about how much …. It’s just a guess, but generally that’s a tenuous limb for someone to climb out on. Is there a chance you left them hanging out there on that limb? If so, they may have run as that’s a pretty uncomfortable feeling and it can be very disconcerting. People will fill in the gaps on their own if you don’t fill in that space yourself. If you like them and identified vaguely (as in enthusiasm) with what they were sayi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 04:10 AM |
| – | Pros? Cons? Neutral?Why would you? I mean that’s the real answer. There is a huge history of interest, sigma and judgement about the number of sexual partners in regard to women. It wasn’t a vague noise in the background either, it was a full on life effecting factor. These days you can simply bypass the whole issue entirely as the only real holder of information is you. Norms and values have changed, so the whole virginity requirement thing has pretty much been taken off the table. There can be some noise if you f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 12:20 AM |
| 2 | “Crimes would disappear from this world if women went away” -Fox news host Greg Gutfeld, do you agree?Well have (or do) crimes go away in male only environments when laws or rules are harsh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 02:04 PM |
| – | Why do you think casual disrespect by women towards their male partners is so common? Is it really acceptable?That’s a good one. It’s also always handy to throw in the old “Yes dear” on top which everyone universally knows translates to “When pigs fly”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 12:45 PM |
| – | Why do you think casual disrespect by women towards their male partners is so common? Is it really acceptable?I don’t eyeroll, but I do a great eyebrow raise. A lot can be conveyed with an eyebrow raise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 12:36 PM |
| 0 | Question for women who have/had hookups & FWB: What's your perception of men who can only get sex in a relationship?Your premise is strange to me so I find it hard to answer your questions other than to say that I don’t have any negative perceptions of my partner at all. Perhaps it is because I chose my partner particularly well? Or perhaps it is because I personally never felt a need to marry, so the person I married was literally the only person who I have viewed as a “life partner”. I have positive memories of dating other people but I would never have married any of them. So by default my partner is the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 12:20 PM |
| – | How do you think Ukraine should handle conscription during their war?I’m assuming if you are actively at war, particularly if invaded, you activate the best strategy you have at your disposal and attempt to keep doing so. I doubt those involved in that process gave much thought to sexism, the process was probably more interested in appropriate resource allocation and maintenance. Maybe also a bit of thought towards post war recovery as well? Bottom line, my opinion counts for absolutely nothing in regard to military strategy, particularly under such circumstances… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?Yeah, it’s hard to respond because the outcome you are presenting is based on so many assumptions that I’m sure make sense to you. For instance, there is no reason to believe that someone who has less or no experience is going to say “I don’t know, I’ve never tried it” and flow on from there will be “Let’s give it a go” rather than “Hell no, that’s a filthy thing to do!” A man would might have to go through several potential partners … Yes, of course. Just as a man might have to go through sever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 12:23 AM |
| 2 | Are single/virgin women treated badly at work, in your opinion?Depends on the workplace I guess. But not generally. “Back in the day” there used to be a few “old fashioned” bosses that would hesitate to promote single or newly wed women because of concern they would take time off or leave due to children and leave a skills gap that is difficult to fill. I’m not sure if that is still much of a thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 11:54 PM |
| 3 | Struggling women should get married.Kind of. It’s not unusual for people to marry for economic reasons. Marriage can absolutely be used as tool to reduce hardship for both sexes. Hell, people have married purely for access to certain benefits. But like most tools, the quality of the results once you wield it depends on many other factors. Marriage can also make your circumstances much worse. Plus a lot of the benefits that one conceptualises will be received with marriage are not really reinforceable, so you can be held accountabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?I see the logic train you are following. Yes, it therefore flows on that pathway that he seeks out friends that have good experiences for the best result to his request, someone that enjoys having guests. Someone that has no experience with guests might be neutral, or indifferent, or simply not open to it at all really. :) Perhaps they enjoy or are more comfortable with their solitude…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?BTW how did you ever get here from the OP? :) And no, I doubt your theory plays out well in real life. Sexual hang ups I doubt you are unaware of the effects some applications of religion, and various other quite constraining social environments on sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?It’s such a shame really that life is just not that simple. If only sexual partners or boyfriends were the only creators of baggage. Imagine how thin the text books of mental health workers would be! Child psychology would not even be a field. But alas it is not to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 04:10 PM |
| 1 | If you were on an island, who would you rather be with, a group of men, a group of women, alone (or with a bear).You are missing out. Go view a few threads up and you get to choose a pig as well! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 10:21 AM |
| 4 | You are dropped on a deserted island, but you have a choice in bringing two companions out of these three: a man, a bear, a pig. Who do you bring and why?What about that Bear Grylls guy? Two birds, one stone! And you can keep the pig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 08:05 AM |
| 5 | You are dropped on a deserted island, but you have a choice in bringing two companions out of these three: a man, a bear, a pig. Who do you bring and why?Is the pig pregnant? Pork would be handy… Oh, and what other supplies do I have? It affects my answer so it’s kind of important. What’s the climate like on the island? Resources? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 07:45 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?This is a bit of a funny concept. without past emotional baggage from other men We are human! We take a long time to reach adulthood and have a lot of developmental hurdles to get over before we are reasonably competent adults. Our social processes alone (even without our other intellectual or physical processes!) require a great deal of learning experiences. Part of learning to manage social processes is learning to deal with the negative ones by default. We tend to learn through trial and erro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 07:18 AM |
| 4 | Women are more suitable as corporate slaves.Money is exchanged for goods and services generally, not just sex. People often forget that it is money that is exchanged for the necessities of life - housing, food, water, heating, healthcare. Luckily It is not exchanged for oxygen, but trying to live without the other things makes it difficult to survive. Chances are, without those things you may not have grown to adulthood to even worry about sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 12:34 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?It appears that you are saying you take other people’s needs and wants into account when you are trying to build a relationship with them. Or perhaps you apply understanding, tolerance, consistency and empathy towards other people as you are getting to know them. I would imagine that based on this model of living, that once you establish a friendship you get a fair amount of that back in return? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 12:27 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past?Super interesting read. Another interesting thought is that generally it would be quite normal behaviour to accept John’s boundaries and even be a little embarrassed for not taking John’s needs into account. Adults don’t generally go walking about expecting our requests (even our urgent ones) to be considered in a void from other factors. For instance, a lot of people, particularly if they were good friends with John would be embarrassed for asking as you know what happened with Mark. “Oh dude! … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 12:09 AM |
| 2 | How do women maintain mental consistency dating men while believing in "the bear pill"?Ok, but you didn’t respond to my final paragraph where I clarified my concept. That remains my position (for what it’s worth) on your post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 02:01 PM |
| 1 | How do women maintain mental consistency dating men while believing in "the bear pill"?Hmmm, I think I get it. 100% of kids that get killed by cars crossing the road are hit by people driving cars. 100% of people know that cars can kill kids. Yet people still let their kids cross the road on their own. 100% of people that get mauled by dogs, are by default mauled by dogs. People know dogs can maul people but still most will engage with dogs. Because people mostly conceptualise the nuances of the situation, other factors pertaining to risk, and take those into account to manage the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 10:46 AM |
| 2 | How do women maintain mental consistency dating men while believing in "the bear pill"?Hmm, that’s a difficult question and I’m not sure I am conceptualising it in the same way as it is fitting inside your head. Not that I think you wrote it in an unclear fashion, I’m just not sure if I understand correctly. Are you asking how women who have a wide distrust of men (universally) manage to conceptualise building a life with one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 10:23 AM |
| 3 | Why do certain conservatives want to get rid of no fault divorce?Sure. Bad behaviour is horrible to live with. How about gambling or substance use that leads to bad behaviour? That can be devastating across almost all life indicators for the kids as well. Bad behaviour is a large category, why just this one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 12:31 AM |
| 7 | Why do certain conservatives want to get rid of no fault divorce?Yes, exactly. You can get married in a church in Vegas by Elvis on a weekend in May to some boy you met in a club and not see each other for 5 years. That will cause you some legal difficulties at some point, but it is not what most people conceptually identify as “Married” and it is not what conservatives identify as the ideal institution of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 12:06 AM |
| 10 | Why do certain conservatives want to get rid of no fault divorce?Why would cheating grant that boon when other behaviours wouldn’t? I’m just curious about your reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 11:57 PM |
| 12 | Why do certain conservatives want to get rid of no fault divorce?I think marriage signified a kind of permanence for conservatives. They feel there was some security/stability in marriage and they feel that no fault divorce weakened all that it signified. They are right in a sense. But no fault divorce was only a link in the chain and it’s taking more blame for the reduction in permanence than it deserved. Marriage is both a legal and conceptual entity and was strongly reinforced on both fronts by a lot of societal elements. A lot of those elements have chang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Single Moms Have SexNo, not at all. I invited you to perhaps give some kind of consideration as to why when you pointed out that yes, apparently single moms do sometimes retain a sex drive even with all the general day to day tasks of having kids. The question therefore is what happened… I also cleared a couple of obviously hurdles that tend to get in the way of ever discussing that topic. You opened the door to an interesting conversation. I was inviting you to step through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Single Moms Have SexI think it’s relevant. I read your post again, did you read mine properly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:56 AM |
| 3 | How do you think this "gender war" is going to end?I believe that children that have grown up in a current happy successful household (whatever that may be) under the norms and values that have been a good fit for the current culture and economy will lead the way. I believe it will be diverse because those current households are diverse, particularly across the current income divide. I think the skills will also be diverse because they will deviate from the “one side fits all” of gender norms. Truly, I think it will come down to a model of flexi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Single Moms Have SexOk. Can we suggest therefore that the women who are single moms and manage to have an active sex life perhaps like sex? There is a bench mark that is often debated here. So we cross the first hurdle. So, if she wasn’t having sex with her previous spouse is it fair to suggest something happened? There is a second hurdle because often here it is suggested that sex is transitional, that it only exchanged for something. Unless the new guy is providing something the spouse wouldn’t? What could that b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 01:26 AM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?Culturally - you will find it very difficult to “normalise”. It’s not just a “woman” problem it’s also a “dignity” problem. Don’t believe me? Test it! Hold a family meeting and announce that you want every family member to attend an appointment to medically test for paternity. You are proposing a family day out to line up at a medical office and swab to test who cheated! Tell your mum you want to test to see if she had an affair before bringing you and your siblings into the world. Tell Grandma,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 12:16 AM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?No. I do not believe that rights of every parent (man or woman) country wide as to whether they want their child DNA tested at birth should be removed to alleviate the hurt of a small number. Particularly when they have several methods already - the courts and personal tests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 11:55 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?It isn’t legal in every country Oh heck, there are lots of things that aren’t legal in every country. If that’s the criteria, paternity tests can stand in line… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 04:08 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?Sure. People have specific needs for many reasons and he will need to navigate that process to have those needs met. His wife may also have specific needs as well in relation to this subject, and it may well be one of those needs is not to have allegations of infidelity cast upon her by her spouse and the father of her child. Unfortunately the bottom line is that somewhere in the conversation it is going to be pointed out that the only way the child can not be his is if sperm from another man tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 04:01 PM |
| – | Around 1 in 50 fathers are unknowingly raising children that are not theirs. Should we normalize paternity tests?Parents have the right to seek a paternity test if they feel it is necessary. No, I would not want my child’s DNA taken for testing automatically without my permission under a mandatory law. Obviously doing so for specific medical reasons is different and should there be a need I would be making a fully informed decision under consultation with a medical practitioner and making the best possible decision for the health and wellbeing of my child at that time. I don’t care if other parents choose … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/24 03:47 PM |
| 3 | Sticking to your kind is the best recipe for successAbsolutely, thats is basically what it comes down to. You can go on and on using boring terms like socioeconomic groups, similar ages, similar norms, values, life goals, family background as this is where most people find their “kind” just because people align most often, it’s kind of easy mode. Obviously people find a person outside of that as well because people are complex. But you are right, you cut to the chase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Sticking to your kind is the best recipe for successCoolio. Do you want me to move my comment to under the Auto thingy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/24 02:35 AM |
| 3 | In response to the "why are promiscuous women undesirable but doesn't necessarily apply to promiscuous men"No one cares. Well to be more accurate, most people don’t care unless your n count falls way outside of the norms of the community you live in. You can pretty much google what is common place for your country. Around that number is what most people recognise and tolerate as normal. It’s who they are marrying and having children with. Hell, Grandma doesn’t even care anymore for the most part. If Grandma doesn’t care then most people won’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Killing “it” or killing “us”?Sure! A lot are life saving, they are also often financially very helpful. Even things as basic as the maintenance/cleaning/repair of leather and cloth, or appropriate purchase/ storage/ use of food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 04:26 AM |
| 3 | Killing “it” or killing “us”?Oh man, in regard to your second paragraph there are a lot of boys in the younger generations who can’t do what you noted. They are also extremely well educated in areas that boys who can do those things might not be and can be very financially viable. Where are city dads going to come with a live animal to kill and field dress in their expensive city apartment? Do they even know how to do it? Why? Honestly, it would be very interesting to review the results on a tick box questionnaire being sen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 03:11 AM |
| 4 | If most younger women are dating older men, should MATURE younger men attempt to date older women?I’m just saying I read the damn article. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 02:36 AM |
| 2 | If most younger women are dating older men, should MATURE younger men attempt to date older women?Ok, I think your point is valid and interesting to discuss but “ Most younger Gen Z women in their early to mid 20’s are dating older men in their 30’s” is not what the article says. As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men. Yep. It also notes where at least some of those women are spending th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 02:15 AM |
| 9 | Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship?Gosh you guys are hard on each other. This man appears to have done some very real groundwork on working out what would work within the life he wants to live and appears to have acted on that to find someone who fits. He also appears to have avoided the whole “she’s pretty so I will try and shape her to what I want” scenario that often ends in disaster. Your response? It’s not normal and it sounds like something women do. How about a “Congrats dude, nice work”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Cad Law: Zero efforts, Max rewardsInteresting. I don’t follow the whole Andrew Tate thing so I didn’t know his father was a chess player. I did read there are two boys from that family involved in the whole mess though (brothers?), assuming he is from a reasonably functioning family their father must be beside himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 06:29 AM |
| 2 | Embracing the Rise of the 'Soft Guy Era'Successful family orientated men and women have always needed to identify and respond to the culture and environment in which they live and navigate that successfully for the good of their family. That is a key component of being successful and planning for the success of your offspring. Identification, response, flexibility to adjust, well considered application of knowledge to support accurate prediction, resilience, persistence Society is always in a state of change. Stubbornly hanging on to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Reasons why the Red Pill want a war so badly?True. They also are distant enough from the event itself that they didn’t get a good look at the condition some of those “survivors” came home in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Female women, how often do you have to lie about not enjoying sexual stuff?Sexuality is so broad there is no one single truth. If you are looking for one most people are going to look like a liar when they tell you their truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 10:43 PM |
| 6 | For better or worse!?I’m sure a man who has put a ring on it …. I hate to tell you but relationships break down pretty often, even after the walk down the aisle and the crib and car seat have been purchased. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 09:42 AM |
| 1 | For better or worse!?Oh, modern arranged marriage is fascinating but I don’t know much about it other than what I have read. I did spend some time on the “arranged marriage” forum and read about some of the challenges in the courting process and there was some general comments about expectations for marriage. It seems to have its own range of challenges. Picky for marriage? Probably, at least there would be an attempt to be. As marriage/ children are less of a default these days, it does appear that those (such as t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 09:32 AM |
| 2 | For better or worse!?Yep, good points, but are you taking into account current housing costs, cost of living and cost of raising a child? It makes having children increasingly unattractive on the approach, and limits the number by default without OP’s complications, and means both parents are probably both accessing the labour market. However in the scenario, should a couple have children and both are accessing the workforce and one party wishes to end a marriage the default is unlikely to be a traditional marriage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 07:18 AM |
| 4 | For better or worse!?Ok, and you think the changes would be more along traditional lines rather than a more modern approach? I disagree, I think women’s education and employment is the wild card. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 02:59 AM |
| 3 | For better or worse!?You are talking about completely different social conditions and structural framework. You are talking about those things that are integrated into people’s understanding of the way they live and how they understand it to be. OP is talking about things changing overnight. Even if it was to “revert back”, how is that going to happen? If I could pick up the phone to the CEO from the Office of Human Behaviour and made a request for society’s behaviour to roll back to those kinds of traditional guide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 02:49 AM |
| 11 | For better or worse!?A lot of those things would happen anyway but it wouldn’t be pretty. Abortion, that’s obvious, we have already been there and know the outcome. No fault divorce. You can introduce this, what you can’t fix is people leaving or staying but just not acting “married”. Marriage has both conceptual and legal element. You can be legally married and not see your spouse for 50 years. I think that would become much more common as would other interesting combinations of various arrangements. Child support … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally endI’m glad, I really am but the obesity statistics don’t lie. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html How about we don’t pick at each other and just settle on: - If you notice your health markers falling between the ages of 20 - 30, do your best to improve them. I’m not interested in winning a little text exchange with you personally, I’m much more interested in more generally suggesting people pay attention to their health over all in their younger years. BTW, I’m much older than you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/24 12:35 AM |
| 2 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Oh, you misunderstood. I’m talking about a much more practical and straightforward policy. All school and places of work must allocate student and employee hours to engage with productive community programs - volunteering, the upkeep of public spaces, environment building and improvement, planting trees, helping the elderly live independently and so on. It will help people meet others from different work places and schools, increase socialisation and build a sense of community engagement. Edit -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 11:05 PM |
| 5 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Sure. The other person was discussing it as a response to dating/incel woes. I’m aware it’s available already. I wanted to know how he envisioned it being a fix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 01:39 PM |
| 4 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Sounds like you end up with legalised prostitution and still have dating/ incel problem to me. Those that can may and those that can’t will receive no benefit at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 01:19 PM |
| 2 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Ok. But can you note a few of the practicalities? What would legal prostitution look like in America? What would the cost point be? How would it be funded so that there would be general access? What health services would be provided to ensure there is not an increase in sexually transmitted diseases? How would access be ensured so that it addresses the actual problem- including people who are do not have the skills to engage on a social level? How can work and safety conditions be maintained for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 01:09 PM |
| 10 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?There are countries with legal prostitution. Are you suggesting they don’t have any of these issues? It’s also a paid service. You understand that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 11:49 AM |
| 3 | Can you explain why complaints from both gender are so similar ?If it’s not divided strictly across gender lines then people who believe it is are not right. If the same struggles are seen by both genders and the real factors mostly ignore and the blame cast incorrectly because it’s convenient then that would account for your observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 11:27 AM |
| 12 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Sure, but you didn’t say it needed to be easy or low cost right? I’m pretty sure introducing policy for a government allocated partner or out lawing online dating wouldn’t be easy to implement either…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 11:03 AM |
| 47 | What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like?Specialised socialisation programs need to be rigorously maintained within the school system. For children that are struggling, targeted interventions need to be provided and followed up. Health, fitness and dietary policies and education needs vastly ramping up at a community level. Also maintained at schools. Resources and facilities provided. Quality standards of food production need to be raised along health guidelines. Social community events and third spaces vastly increased. mental health… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:56 AM |
| 16 | Can you explain why complaints from both gender are so similar ?Because the issues aren’t divided across gender lines as firmly as believed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:45 AM |
| 11 | Can the “Men peak at 35” delusion finally endMost guys don’t have significant declines in their looks until they’re around 40’s anyway. Ooph, I don’t mean any disrespect when I say this, but the years between 20 and 30 can be brutal for a lot of men. That age when men stop filling out physically as a transition between childhood and young adulthood ends; and when a full time work with a sedentary lifestyle kicks in is very harsh. Honestly, I don’t mean to be rude but I just wanted to note to any youngsters out there, it’s best to pay atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 10:34 AM |
| – | Men should NOT have to "fight" for his kids.I think you have really important point. Married people tend to establish a pattern of managing the basics of school drop offs, pick ups, sick days, school holidays, doctors appointments (that often fall within standard working hours), dinner time/ bedtime routines - the basics of raising children early on. When custody splits 50/50 both parents are subject to managing these things and the routine persists but there is no longer a second pair of hands to co-manage them. The only flexibility to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 06:14 AM |
| 5 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpTIL pastel goth! And agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpSuch is the nature of language I guess. Particularly in this day and age. I find myself googling things quite often to follow the conversation on reddit. My google history is …. not great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 02:53 PM |
| 4 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpAbsolutely not. I very rarely believe in absolutes when people are involved. People are remarkable and one of the extraordinary things about them is how they differ in conceptualising things. How diverse they respond under similar circumstances, how they perceive differences in things as concrete as a painting, sculpture or even a song or movie. The nuances are an amazing thing. I don’t always like, approve or appreciate how people act or conceptualise things, but I admire the people as a whole … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 02:39 PM |
| 6 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpSure, but that doesn’t necessarily influence how you perceive it. Take this example: Four people are waiting at a bus stop and the bus just drives by and doesn’t pick them up. The four individuals have the following perceptions of the situation: Person one - “Man, the bus driver hates me. Life is shit, he dumped me on the side of the road because he hates me and wants to make me late for work.” Person two - “Man, the bus driver must have an emergency onboard. I hope everyone is ok!” Person three… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 02:25 PM |
| 7 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpPeople conceptualise it differently. For some people it’s a pleasant Saturday night that went no where. Very few people have expectations that everything will go somewhere. Some situations would be conceptualised as missed opportunities - which is just life. People are reasonably pragmatic about these things these days and are also at least somewhat pragmatic about sex itself. Plus, they don’t necessarily connect the dumped to sex directly. As you pointed out, the sex wasn’t always the sticking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpI actually appreciate some kind of structural concept around this term. It’s just so vague and thrown about. I still don’t think it matters as far as it’s weighed though. As far as I see it, point one and two is just a life learning experience for those involved. Both will walk away and get on with life and have to deal with any disappointment or differences in expectations. Particularly if nothing particularly negative, life changing or health affecting happens which can complicate the experien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much?Amazing. It’s progressed already further than what I was aware as I am older and haven’t kept up. Clear mascara sounds amazingly and the primer sounds great as well. I’m liking the lip stain as well. Sign, I’m glad you replied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 11:58 AM |
| 2 | Why is the role that makeup plays in women’s privilege downplayed so much?10 years I believe. Give it 10 years and even prior to the 10 years it will be spreading like wild fire. The skin care market for men is growing rapidly along with the specialised Haircare/Beard care market. Cracking the more “masculine” market with specialised beard care was significant. It was all about the pitch. Body shaving/trimming/waxing is also well underway in the “masculine” market. It’s all about moving away from the “natural” look to “enhanced natural” or “groomed” look while maintai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 06:46 AM |
| 3 | Women will emotionally cheat/manipulate/hide things more often but men physically cheat more in a relationship?Ahhh yes. One of the many little quirks of life. It takes a surprising amount of effort as well to break those patterns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Women will emotionally cheat/manipulate/hide things more often but men physically cheat more in a relationship?Ok, but with that said it all needs to be provided in marriage. Sex unfortunately is not really a stand alone act in marriage. I think you will find that other needs crashed around the same time as sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 12:41 AM |
| – | He waited for her for 13 yearsAhhh, I can see you are a man with very high standards for proof. Would you possibly be interested in a bridge I have for sale? It’s very well located in Brooklyn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 08:55 AM |
| – | He waited for her for 13 yearsI have no idea why you feel it’s interesting to read about the meandering life of some woman you met travelling in Europe? Congrats, you met a person! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 08:45 AM |
| – | There is nothing gay about kissing a feminine looking guyYou can try and argue that in a country without gay marriage, but I doubt you would get very far. Sally is still not walking down the aisle with a masculine looking woman and getting a marriage certificate no matter how she spins it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 06:06 AM |
| – | There is nothing gay about kissing a feminine looking guyThis is just delightful. You do you OP! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 02:00 AM |
| – | Neither genders are oppressedWell, PIV sex technically. Or sex with a fertile person. Or sex with the opposite sex? The rest is on the table. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/24 12:05 AM |
| – | Women can stfu about equality if they don’t fight in the next warI’m sorry. This obviously means a lot to you conceptually but I’m going to leave the military strategy up to those that are qualified to manage it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Women posture here just to disprove redpill, they'd rather lie and shame than prove redpill rightI think it’s a language and conceptual gap that is quite common in text and different expectations. What you call a “pumped and dumped” some people would just call a reasonably pleasant Saturday night where expectations were pretty pragmatic from the start. Plus people are pretty resilient around sex these days, not everyone holds huge expectations that it will be more so they don’t necessarily feel “pumped and dumped” or shamed when it turns out to be a fleeting contact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:15 PM |
| 1 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenTech will extend the window (artificial wombs, synthetic gametes, advanced fertility drugs etc). Yep! True. But consider the cost, you are talking about a piece of medical equipment that is technologically advanced, requires monitoring probably by a medical professional (at least in the early tech years) and for a period of probably 9 months! Per child! That can’t be cheap right? Then you have to take the little fragile mite home and make sure it doesn’t die. Fertility drugs might be neat and le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 03:05 PM |
| 2 | FWB is the best relationship for both modern men and womenI don’t disagree but it does have its limitations as an adult that wants to tackle traditionally adult responsibilities. Home ownership often requires being financed by two adults. Not many people are keen to take on a mortgage without a long term commitment in place for obvious reasons. Kids you also mentioned already. There is also retirement funding. It’s hard to build long term goal stability for some things without a long term committed partner. Some adult goals are also huge and it is vast… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 01:45 PM |
| – | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Awesome! You need to yell this from the rafters and get way way more men on board with this. I really mean it, this attitude and experience might be exactly what is needed in a dual income modern economy where flexibility is going to be central for fitting in a couple of kids. Maximising workplace leave and benefits, and maintaining workplace skills for both parents is increasingly important. Life is much easier if you can both approach it with confidence. Make a YouTube account, speak to your f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 12:08 PM |
| 5 | People in PPD, what would you like to change with regards to modern dating and relationships?Has it occurred to you that above and beyond treatment, trying hard, feeling the need to constantly impress you, thinking about you 24/7 and all the rest that you are are inciting with your behaviour may not be love? People who are secure in their relationship, who are in a supported long term relationship, who share themselves with their partner and allow their partner to share themselves in return, are allowed to relax into themselves and be accepted and loved. For a lot of well balanced indiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 11:23 AM |
| 10 | Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love?Guys can produce children till the day they die. Ok, as a concept this needs a bit of a financial and social reality check. Most men are paycheque to paycheque or close to. Having children when you are established (food, housing, stability, flexibility) but also have years left in the workforce (preferably at least 18 but more realistically 25 years or longer for 2 kids) is a necessity or at the very least a practicality. By the time you have paid for education, food, clothing and lifestyle stuf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:22 AM |
| 5 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Before having kids, would you talk with your husband about all that’s coming down the pipe… It’s bold of you to assume women without kids have some kind of intrinsic idea they can talk about comprehensively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?Negotiation? Neat, would you consider years 10-20? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:42 PM |
| 18 | Do most men want kids enough to do 50/50 childrearing?It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if women miss manage the task, bring it all on themselves, or just suck at conceptualising it properly. It doesn’t matter if there is a better way of doing it if they would just get on board and relax into it. Women are in increasing numbers hesitant to have children or at least take on the full responsibility anymore. The narrative around having children is increasingly negative across the community. They are considered noisy, expensive, and life limiting as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 11:39 PM |
| – | POSTS WITH AFFIRMATIVE CLAIMS AND LOADED QUESTIONS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE" POST FLAIR APPRECIATION DAILY MEGATHREADI think it’s just the way the question is framed. What you call “pumping and dumping” someone else will call an extremely pleasant (or not) Saturday night. It’s easy to put something in a particular way, it’s very hard to convince someone else to take that onboard and feel bad about it. Let’s face it, convincing someone that spending time with an attractive man is a bad thing is a very hard sell…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Why is it unreasonable for a woman to want a man who earns the same salary as her or more?These things don’t fit together. Of course they do. Expectations change just as they always have. But that’s not even central to your example. The wealthy (generational wealth) have always educated their daughters in context to their station. Only a daughter from a wealthy family could learn to run a large household and they were expected to learn to do so. They were also educated to meet the other social markers in context to a wealthy lifestyle. The key here to my point is that they were provi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 02:52 AM |
| 5 | Women simultaneously benefit from traditional gender roles and modernity, but only where it suits thempristine conditions Oh come on OP, as a Lawyer your critical thinking skills are better than this! nurses laundry workers cleaners factory workers mass clothing production mass food packaging and preparation services I mean it just goes on. It’s a skills issue. There are miserable jobs across the spectrum and you know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Why is it unreasonable for a woman to want a man who earns the same salary as her or more?I’m not saying your experience is wrong, or even challenging it, it’s your experience, but it is not a dynamic that I have really come across in terms of a wide general experience. My experience is most people tend to marry and have children within their socioeconomic group. I’m not talking about the dollar tag - as in she makes 6 figures, I make 6 figures, let’s go! I mean all the education, social and norms/value markers. There is obviously a disconnect between your experience and mine and it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/24 12:38 AM |
| – | Men cannot hide behind modernityScoot over on that limb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 02:43 AM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?Indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 01:21 AM |
| 0 | We often talk here about how successful, high-performing women want educated and successful men, but do most educated and successful men want ambitious women?They know. It’s just a convenient fall back position that women’s education isn’t attractive. Most people understand at least the basics of the economy they live in. They interact with it every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 01:20 AM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?Someone who spends her time roasting others on the internet probably don’t have the best personality. Would you even say she isn’t agreeable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 01:14 AM |
| – | Men cannot hide behind modernityMan, you must freak the hell out when you turn up at the doctors or ER and find out the doctor or surgeon is a woman. I’m sure you crawl your butt out and are willing to risk dying in front of the hospital rather than be treated by a crazy king. Right? You totally do that right? Or you turn off your computer, have a shower and prepare to navigate the real world the next day just like the rest of us…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 01:01 AM |
| – | Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them?Sure. I’m just trying to point out your line of reasoning is faulty. The all options logic is faulty. No one can or will consider all options because it’s not a viable pathway for a tolerable life. Getting upset because women are presented by what appears to be a great deal of noise and calling them options and maintaining they are all viable is simply not true. And nor is it for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 12:41 AM |
| – | Does Agreeableness Actually Matter?You understand that she is probably just a performer right? It’s a business. I have no idea if she is “agreeable” or not, but I bet she can tell you how much her subscriber base and income increased when she argued and maintained that being agreeable is suitable behaviour for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 12:33 AM |
| – | Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them?If rationalised the way you have, most men (I think it’s a bit silly to speak in absolutes) could find someone or an option if the criteria is anyone. Pretty much for the same reasoning as you applied. If you don’t like your option, they are still options. People still have free will and will exercise it. A lot of the protest in the dating market as I understand it is from men under 30 so they might raise a fuss if I start rationalising that they take one for the team and legally join with anyon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/24 12:17 AM |
| – | Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them?Hmm, only 60-70% if the criteria is anyone? Absolutely anyone. Homeless, drug affected, mentally ill, physically disabled, much older (you can adopt), poor. I mean, lots of people need a carer. There is lots of people still under the care of their parents and will be for life because they are incapable of living independently. Having a functioning person who would consider anyone would be a boon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 11:51 PM |
| – | Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them?Hmmm, if that is the bench mark, you don’t think that most men can’t get anyone to do those things? Attracted to you on any level Marry Start a family Keep in mind the bench mark is anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 11:37 PM |
| – | The best person to vet a man is another manFathers and brothers use to vet male suitors and weed out any scum bags. Ummm wait a second. How did all the scum bags get through then? History is littered with accounts of married scum bags - hospital records, police records, school records, community service records, not for profits, charity organisations, church records, legal records, literature. Sometimes the father or the brother was the scum bag in question. I think it might be better to draw on any good quality resources you have availa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 08:17 AM |
| 9 | We often talk here about how successful, high-performing women want educated and successful men, but do most educated and successful men want ambitious women?It always amuses me that people are willing to argue that well educated high earning men suddenly magically become stupid about this major (almost central) issue in life. They are so intellectually disabled by their reproductive organs that they can’t see the enormous benefits of having a well educated or well earning wife in this day and age. Apparently only women are capable of taking education and financial capability into account when choosing a life mate. This whole rhetoric is embarrassing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 04:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibilityif the woman learns about the pregnancy after the abortion window, to bad, then both people should be forced to support their offspring. Oh heck. Talk about beating the system with this one neat trick! A law has to be viable when administered to the general population. A law needs to be enforceable otherwise it’s a suggestion to be well behaved. The abortion window is quite small in a lot of locations. You need to therefore to put in provisions and resources for women to determine pregnancy as e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 12:44 AM |
| 2 | CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibilityLook at your time frame though: Sex —-> conception Positive pregnancy test after first missed period. Father located and informed Father decision making time. Application to court. Court to confirm that they are indeed severing the correct individuals legal rights - DNA test. Outcome of legal application. All within the legal abortion timeframe. What if the father wants to involve legal consultation or negotiation? Things like “I will pay child support but I want 50% custody”, or some other cond… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 12:22 AM |
| 0 | CMV When a man doesn’t want a child but a woman still gives birth, a man should be cleared of the financial responsibilityWe will then need to completely change view from determining a law that prioritises what is best for the child (financial support) to what is best for the adults involved. The downhill run from that decision will be enormous. If he is not willing to take financial responsibility he will need to apply to the courts to have all rights and responsibilities to the child severed and it needs to be done within a time frame that she can still have an abortion. She needs to know if she will have financi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 12:01 AM |
| 1 | What do people who date/marry out of their league do?If you find a relationship based on sexual attraction (rather than status) within the next few years, would your family be expecting of your choice? The only reason I ask is because it is my understanding that families also have some status expectations of the girls as well - as is she being from a good family kind of thing or perhaps around level of education. I guess I’m saying their criteria is perhaps a bit broader than just looks as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 06:54 AM |
| 5 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?I’m a little concerned it’s also the pre-dating market. Apparently from what I understand the RP talking points can be heard in schools pre high school years (so as early as primary school), including all the more controversial stuff that “True RP’s” like to deny is part of their stuff. Teachers and parents are trying to combat this stuff in relation to girls way before serious dating comes on the scene and respond as best they can. I have doubts that it’s with encouraging girls to engage more s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 11:29 PM |
| 2 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?I agree. I think while women are getting much much more bold (particularly young women) at placing themselves front and centre of men they like there is still an expectation that men will make the explicit move. It’s almost a comedy skit at this point watching young woman push against the boundaries while still trying to stay within the old social rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 10:25 AM |
| 2 | What do people who date/marry out of their league do?What’s the disadvantages to an arranged marriage as you see it? My understanding from others is that there is a far amount of personal choice on both sides built into process these days? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 10:07 AM |
| 2 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?I think that’s wise. In fact, reading your other posts, I think it’s best you keep that closely in mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Is this a relevant side effect of traditional blueprint of dating?There is no rational nor stoic here. Violence in the community costs money, time and resources towards the victims alone. The perpetrators of violence costs money, time and resources dealing with them. Police, court, incarceration often for years. Then there is the fallout. Children exposed to violence (or being the victim), loss of stability, emotional damage. As you pointed out yourself, the damage can continue for years. In fact the damage can continue across generations. Pointing all that ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 08:57 AM |
| – | A more comprehensive post on why women handle being alone better than men, and why we need to find solutions to that.There is no winning that argument, if that is the benchmark then it really just means not playing the game at all. Aging is inevitable- full stop. But pregnancy does some really “surprising” things to the average human body. Whether you want to believe or not, most people are going to have physical changes after pregnancy/breast feeding even if you loose the weight gain and get back your fitness. I’m not sure people really realise the after effects of stretching their skin to that degree, carryi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 05:22 AM |
| 0 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menHmmm, I’m not sure but I think there used to be a social element in there somewhere - particularly if you are talking about large age gaps with young men. For instance, if an older woman had been seen to attempt to engage sexually with one of my sons when they were very young adults I would intervene and be furious whereas I wouldn’t be concerned if it was a younger woman around the same age. In the case of an older woman I view it predatory. My reasoning is that she would have more power to dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 12:32 AM |
| 3 | Can you prove women's alleged "mental load"?I think your question is valid and it’s also a tricky one. However I don’t think it really matters. It’s a bit like the chores argument, even if it was proven to be true with undeniable data which is rock solid the outcome is not likely to result in anything meaningful as those that are carrying the mental load in the house (whether they be male or female) will find it very hard to redistribute. Organisation, scheduling, planning or whatever you want to call it is a skill and the results are not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:12 AM |
| – | Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare]My point basically was my experience of feedback from family was different than yours (the original post I replied to) and I didn’t identify with it at all. In regards to who you partner up with, after all the pros and cons are discussed, I think the bottom line is that people will for the most part pair up with those within their socioeconomic group, around a similar age and with similar norms and values. It’s simply what they recognise and identify with, it makes sense to them and there is com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 12:40 AM |
| – | Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare]Thanks and I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 10:39 PM |
| – | Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare]Making financially viable decisions is a sound strategy no matter the subject, including education. Education is an investment, the return should be attractive and maximised. Everyone can experience circumstances that impact financial stability, being uneducated or having an uneducated partner is not going to assist. In fact, that is one the reasons having two educated individuals within a family is beneficial- it buffers against injury/poor health, retrenchment, and allows for talking advantage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 10:07 PM |
| – | Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare]I’m not talking about just the men in my family, I’m talking about both sexes. I’m not arguing with your perspective, I just think it’s entirely odd. Education, as your family would know, is central to socioeconomic status. Socioeconomic status is central to opportunity, opportunity is central to wealth generation. Without education everything is harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 09:47 PM |
| – | Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare]I read your post twice with interest and don’t identify at all. Due to my age and large family network I have/had direct contact with women and men spanning two generations back from you (Great Gen and Silent Gen) and none of them held/hold this opinion. I come from a family that would be considered quite traditional in values, including taking their financial and family leadership obligations very seriously, and they deduced quite accurately way back that educating all family members (both male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 09:30 PM |
| 4 | Would “emotional labor” be better described as “consideration overload”?because woman are terrible at communicating with men I use to be a huge supporter of this line of thought, not specifically the “woman” bit but certainly the “communication” bit. I use to also put this forward as bit of wisdom for the whole “chores” debate as well. I have moved away from this line of reasoning now though and I finally started listening properly (ironic!) and also did a bit of conceptual mapping of what “communication” actually is as a process and how it works. Basically my think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:48 PM |
| 3 | What's your definition of a hoe?Not really? I mean not as a fixed category of human in a way where it’s definitive. Just in the same way a “bitch” doesn’t exist as a fixed category. There is nothing about the term “Hoe” that isn’t conceptual, and there is such deviation that the conceptual idea for this term it’s tangential. A “hoe” can be a person who sleeps with X number of people, or who wears “slutty” (also widely deviating) clothing, or who shows their ankles, or wears a bikini or does something you don’t like …. I have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Can we finally end the objectification nonsense? Can't we think critically?There are as many visions of social change as there are fish in the sea. This pastime has birthed many a novel or song. It’s not uncommon to come across individuals that believe they alone have the answer to some social or personal ill and believe it is therefore best if it be applied to everyone else - beware, here be dragons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Can we finally end the objectification nonsense? Can't we think critically?I don’t think people’s desire on how they’d ……. Ok, but I don’t think your conceptual framing of this should supersede other people’s conceptual framing. So, once again it’s all good. If they said they were uncomfortable….. Question away. But once again your framing doesn’t override other people’s conceptual framing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 03:40 AM |
| 3 | Can we finally end the objectification nonsense? Can't we think critically?There’s nothing wrong with woman chasing men for money. There’s nothing wrong with men chasing sexy women for sex. to you! That’s cool. But for others that is not a dynamic they wish to engage in. They are seeking something else. You are free to live within those parameters, it’s all good. But should you try to engage in that dynamic with others that are not open to it they will feel uncomfortable with it, perhaps attempt to end it, perhaps negotiate something different or express their discomfo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 03:24 AM |
| 2 | Re : Can someone explain why women are seen as the romantic gender ( taken down because of the wrong flair)That was a pleasure to read. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:16 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Most women that say they can't orgasm from PIV intercourse have never fucked a guy that knows what he's doingI’m sure “just dick gaming” away while consciously avoiding a specifically designed point of pleasure to prove a point is definitely the way to go. I mean, it’s not like this is such common rhetoric that there is a whole body of jokes out there about this very thing! Your Grandma was probably complaining about this line of thinking and yet here you are! Never mind, perhaps one day…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of woman have issues with neediness or clinginess than men?Probably because it’s really hard to live your life, reach your personal goals or fulfil your needs with someone “clinging” or “needing” you rather than supporting you. It’s exhausting to carry all that weight around and even if you care for that person deeply, providing reassurance all the time just wears away at your relationship and changes the dynamic to the degree where you are not a partner anymore, just a support human. If you are willing to support someone, you are willing to support the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 11:51 PM |
| 7 | Actually, getting into a relationship DOES fix many problems for youBut actually, a good relationship is really good for you. Absolutely. Being in a “good relationship” with shared goals, values, and the mutual desire to share the burdens and maximise opportunities is a wonderful thing. A “good relationship” is not something that someone can gift to you though unfortunately. You need to be able to build one with someone, which means you need to provide your end of the bargain. Fortunately you don’t need to be perfect and neither do they, thank god. Genuine good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Nice guys verse healthy withdrawal of relationshipsNo it’s not wrong, I made it clear that I was referring to how perceptions can differ in regard to actions. I also was clear that I thought there is negatives socially if your strategy is not congruent with what you are projecting. Particularly if your actions have been long term. Did you read my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 08:16 AM |
| 4 | Nice guys verse healthy withdrawal of relationshipsthat he should be happy to do every week Well it appears he was happy to do it every week, there is the crux of the issue. The why was he happy to do this task? Well that is where perceptions might change: His friendship group might assign this to him being a good solid friend who is part of the interchange of responsibility for the wellbeing of the friendship group. He might have actually been motivated to do this task as it allowed him to spend more time with her alone with romantic intentions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:41 AM |
| 4 | Nice guys verse healthy withdrawal of relationshipsIt doesn’t seem unreasonable that he distance himself for a while, but what he needs to understand and manage is that his “withdrawal” on walking her home is not the end of the fallout. As a wise young man however I’m sure he calculated that out and made his choice carefully prior to asking her out. No one is foolish enough to destabilise a long term established friendship group unless there was really serious emotions involved and he had major intentions - there is no way it would be worth it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Is the real threat to women in the dating market the trauma dumping AI?Interesting. Anyone using this? It’s free and it looks like it covers quite a few core relationship skills coaching which is something people often raise here as feeling they need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Hitting women should not be controversialOpen to having my view changed. Your view is kind of irreverent. You know the laws, you know the consequences. It’s like trying to convince someone that theft/fraud is not beneficial as obviously getting free money or goods is neat. There are consequences and they are very high. The argument for and against the actions and costs of theft/fraud could be lengthy, very boring and irrelevant. Ultimately it comes down to - you know the laws, you know the consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 11:46 PM |
| 13 | Why does society treat women with kid gloves, especially when it comes to relationships?Boobs and genitals are equivalently private/sexual/inappropriate in American society. Seems it’s not as clear cut as that. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/free-the-nipple-states This has a decent outline of the state of play as of 2024. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 10:24 AM |
| -1 | Women's infatuation with the lives of celebrities is a male ickMen don’t have time though. By the time they have dedicated the time needed to develop the level of knowledge about gaming needed to socialise with others of their kind, all that is left is used up to maintain employment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 01:02 PM |
| 6 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexYou obviously have an extremely limited view on dating experiences and the possibilities involved. But even focusing on your premise, if she is comfortable with boundaries and values having a “body count in the triple digits” then that’s fine. If your boundaries and values are not comfortable with that then she is not compatible with you and it is of no concern of yours. The world does not revolve around you, I’m afraid you will have to learn to live with that. You are not alone however as that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 12:42 PM |
| 10 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexLike of course this could happen to any woman who decides to reciprocate to any guy out of her league. Nonsense. If a nice, good looking guy asks you out and you enjoy his company then you are entirely welcome to, and should, enjoy the experience. Even suggesting that people are required to walk around thinking “wow, I think you are too attractive and nice, begone devil” is absurd. If you like someone and they are displaying interest in you, then that’s a nice thing. Assuming they have bad inten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:43 AM |
| 6 | If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sexExactly, it’s just a compatibility issue, nothing more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 03:36 AM |
| 2 | The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in datingIn fact I think you are right, I do believe Slut shaming is almost extinct, or at least gasping its last breath. Judgement on sexuality is very quickly being replaced with a more medical/safety approach. In fact that is why your original comment actually caught my eye, it’s not that I was challenging it, it’s because you said the quiet thing out loud when you said, “why is this not expected”? There is still some social norms around female sexuality, and it’s not uncommon here for some of the old… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 01:43 AM |
| 2 | The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in datingI don’t down play anything, I’m just agreeing with you. Yes, women are encouraged to be “pretty” and there are benefits to meeting those expectations. Full stop. In fact, not meeting those expectations is detrimental. Are you kidding…. No, not really. It’s a bit of a thorny issue, but basically it is still generally expected to some degree. That’s decreasing yep, and I believe will continue to decrease. Basically, her being able to get Chad down the aisle with her awesome bathroom cleaning skill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 01:07 AM |
| 3 | The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in datingSo you agree. Ok. I mean, women are clearly encouraged to be as attractive as possible, you can’t deny that, there is a massive industry around it - clothing, makeup, surgery, anti-aging skin care products. Women are clearly encouraged to learn how to cook, home based skills, be “agreeable”, but if you want to argue that that is watered down a lot these days I won’t disagree. Women are clearly encouraged to be educated, independently financially capable these days and bring financial value and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 12:29 AM |
| 4 | The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in datingNow there’s an interesting question! I know you just went on a mini rant, but hang on a sec, why do you think this is not the case? be ready to open their legs any time those men ask for sex to get a ring? Why do you think the majority of men in these spaces are not advising women to do exactly that to try and lock down attractive men? If that is what women are perceived to truly want or truly need to be happily paired with true desire? In fact, what I generally read is more of a push to tighten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 11:57 PM |
| 3 | What’s considered being single by choice?Well, the opposite of being single is “partnered”. So it simply means that by choice, you are choosing to not be partnered. You can date, have sex, go dancing, be social or whatever and still be single. You simply choose to not enter into a relationship where you psychologically or legally are considered partnered, it doesn’t really matter why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Low value woman vs High value womanOk, perhaps sociological stuff is not in your wheelhouse! Thanks for the chat though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 12:57 AM |
| 2 | Low value woman vs High value womanNever saw it in practice. You kind of have as a social concept, at least if you live on planet earth. Shared socioeconomic factors/norms/values are core to relationships - including marriage. While you might not have seen my example of a bakers daughter marrying a millers son, I’m sure you can expand that out to see what concepts are at play here and where it is used more widely with a social structure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Another “Are We Dating The Same Guy” lawsuitsocial aggression and attacks are women’s replacement for physical violence. This is a social reinforcement strategy as old as time. Slut shaming is a classic example of this. Social gossip has been around for ever - “he’s a bit of a lad!” Unpleasant but true. People don’t really seem to mind until they become the subject and then it is all very “unfair” or “problematic”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Low value woman vs High value womanBut is that something that happens? Kinda, as a concept. It was basically short hand for the complexity that surrounds marriage in terms of its socioeconomic value. I’m sure you have come across the concept before, no one is that naive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Low value woman vs High value womanYou don’t see a benefit from the local bakers daughter marrying the local grain miller’s son? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Low value woman vs High value womanMarriage…why do I care if her family is wealthy? For the same reason most families that work within a generational wealth model care. If you are wealthy, and your partner comes from generational wealth then they not only have all the hall marks of generational wealth - specific societal social cues, social connections, education, upper class lived experiences, specific social and financial understanding, education and experience of managing that lifestyle, it just goes on and on. Then, and this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 01:12 PM |
| 5 | Fear mongering women over “dying alone”This is a very old narrative that has been applied for a long time. It’s just that its effectiveness has worn off and we now “see it” more because it’s out of place with new social norms. Back when main stream society truly believed that women’s only primary role and “nature” was to marry and have children, it was an incredibly effective tool. As it was a fundamental belief, everyone (including those who genuinely had her best interests at heart) was concerned about a woman aging out of the main… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 12:35 AM |
| 0 | The lies growing upOh! I see… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 10:46 AM |
| 4 | How do red pillers raise their sons and daughters?Awww, two year olds are cute. I know you are probably joking, but try really hard to not let teenagers (boys or girls) split parental authority, things can get really funky. Enjoy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Women today are the ones slut shaming men and trying to control men's bodies.I will never understand why people feel the need to post stuff on social media unless it is absolutely as pure as the white driven snow. If he is a “passport bro” and put it up on social media then I’m afraid he will have to navigate the range of opinions he is going to come across, including those in his workplace. Omg why do people put stuff on social media that will impact on their employment? If he is not a “passport bro” then I guess he will have to clear that up when he gets back. Once aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 10:32 AM |
| 2 | Who has more sexual options: An average looking woman? Or a male celebrity?Hmmm, interesting read. I think you have a lot of points there. I haven’t seen a lot of the shows you are discussing but perhaps I experienced something similar in frustration when I watched the Ghostbusters that they made with an all female cast. Obviously I was aware of the casting, it was advertised widely so I take personal responsibility for watching the damn thing, but did they have to make it so damn awful? I just feel that they allowed their desire to “make a statement” take priority ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 12:01 AM |
| 7 | We talk about women selecting toxic men a lot, but we hardly seem to glance at the thought of men actively selecting toxic womenI feel you missed my point entirely. To the degree we don’t even have a dog in the same race. In fact, did you mean to reply to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 05:49 AM |
| 1 | To what extent have women been oppressed in history?Exploitation is the name of the game. The Labour market exploited both men and women. Men and the Labour market exploited women’s unpaid labour (generally). Women exploited men’s paid labour (if viewed in a certain way). It’s a bit of a house of cards. The rich exploit the poor. The educated exploit the uneducated. You get the idea. While there are nuances and mutual benefits obviously, as a general rule it’s a good idea to be as educated as possible and preferably as rich as possible. Oh, edite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Who has more sexual options: An average looking woman? Or a male celebrity?Thanks for the reply! Wild! And yep, you answered my question and that’s kind of you. I appreciate it. I was vaguely aware (mostly reddit based) of some storm over the Witcher Project. Though I must admit to thinking it was being driven from disappointment from the gaming community, as I believe it was a game and Henry has strong connections to the gaming community. There was a video that popped up on my reddit feed (no idea why) of an older man being quite emotional about the new casting of Wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 04:17 AM |
| 25 | We talk about women selecting toxic men a lot, but we hardly seem to glance at the thought of men actively selecting toxic womenIt seems simple right? The way you describe it. But it doesn’t account for any complexity. Some men stay with “toxic” women for years past any active sex life. Absolutely years. In fact, I kind of object to it being presented as being so simple: Sex ——-> remaining in a toxic abusive relationship. Oh wow! We solved men’s relationship problems with this explanation seems disingenuous. Men can have very complex mental health problems that can leave them vulnerable to really awful and damaging life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 01:51 AM |
| – | The future of "dating" will be a combo of sugar or hooking-up. We can already see the writings on the wall.The future of dating in relation to long term relationships will be two very similar people in terms of goals negotiating out a their wants and needs and then trying to make it happen across a period of time - some will succeed and some will not. That’s it. Relationships structures will be more diverse than previously because “two very similar people in terms of goals” is more diverse than previously. two career oriented people is quite new. the LGBTIQA+ community marrying is quite new. cross cu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Who has more sexual options: An average looking woman? Or a male celebrity?Henry Cavill? Women call Henry Cavill an incel? Who? Which women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say that being a genuinely nice guy WITH the ability to be not so nice when needed is the most attractive thing a man can be?I agree, but I don’t necessarily believe those people are necessarily “nice”. Someone who feels the need to “never turn someone off” or “wants to avoid conflict” has certainly performed not nice actions or words to do so. People pleasing individuals will conform to a what others want to “be nice” but those actions are often very unpleasant indeed. In fact, people pleasing individuals find themselves being directly sort out by others for specificity that reason, because they can be manipulated to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 11:31 PM |
| 3 | The key to success with women.It’s probably a good rule all around as well! Neighbours and coworkers like it when you are not a psycho as well! Good work OP, I think you are on to something here! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say that being a genuinely nice guy WITH the ability to be not so nice when needed is the most attractive thing a man can be?I think some people simply find it difficult to understand what “nice” means in its complexity and how it presents itself. Generally “nice” seems to imply some kind of compliance most of the time to what is going on. Easy going, generous with time and perhaps money, and generally displaying good will towards others. That’s true. A “nice person” may give you money to cover your rent if you run short on funds if they can afford to do so. But “nice” people are also very able to not be compliant sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 03:36 AM |
| 6 | Which is harder? Stay-at-home Parent? Or sole-provider for a family?Of course, most things are easier if the term “super rich” is involved. Education is much easier if you are super rich. Eating is much easier if you are super rich…. And so on. Raising a child if you are a single mom is much easier if you are “super rich” - a nanny, chef, house keeper, private school or teacher, suitable comfort housing, flexibility in the workforce. I mean, there is no doubt “super rich” is awesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 01:54 AM |
| 6 | Which is harder? Stay-at-home Parent? Or sole-provider for a family?How long? SAHP for the infant years? Until primary school for 2 kids (or three?) or are we talking for life as in a Homemaker? What is the income of the family? Any paid help? Do the kids have special needs? What kind of employment does the provider have? Any financial safety net as that reduces stress? Income? You are talking about a huge variety of different experiences and then asking “what’s harder?” You also need to calculate a wide variety of experiences across a lifetime. Being a SAHP vs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 12:34 AM |
| 3 | There are a lot more certain attractive qualities a man must have compared to a woman in order to have a healthy and fulfilling relationship.Those two things would be are really hard to navigate when dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/24 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender rolesorry, breastfeeding is a reason this conflict needs to end? No, but it is one of the reasons. It is a great example of one of the many tasks around having children that people widely seem to refuse to acknowledge the time and investment needed to maintain it. The time and effort needed to breast feed involves being physically available (unless pumping) and the time per feed. There is very little acknowledgement that it requires being up several times per night for some time, plus the changing a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/24 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender roleYes, I’m well aware. That’s one of the many reasons why the endless conflict over this topic needs to end. Unfortunately it not just an online thing. It has been a ceaseless cause of friction within relationships for the last 3 or so generations, particularly when kids come along. The relentless nature of home chores and tasks combined with the high demands of raising children makes them an inescapable source of friction and unhappiness for those that can’t work out an equitable system. Communic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Women have more options than men in the dating game until their 50s when the game starts to shift in favor of menI’m not sure about that. A nurse and/or a purse It’s not unusual for women in their 50’s have significant funds tucked away either from a lifetime of wages, retirement funds, housing market investments, divorce settlements, other assets/investments or inheritance. Women in their 50’s tend to not have adult children at home and have a lifetime of “keeping house” experience. They can be attractive options for both those factors and are well aware of it. They are well aware that the only pathway to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 10:06 AM |
| 3 | There is honestly no need to have kids, enter a long term relationship or become married anymore as a manEveryone had to worry about bills, she just didn’t have any control over it. But considering she needed food to cook, cloth to make clothing and other stuff to “keep house” and she was well aware that those items didn’t grow on trees, she had very little choice but to worry. God help her if her husband liked to drink or gamble. Or perhaps exercise his head of the household status to run the budget low, particularly with children. The vast masses have always worried about money and very few were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 09:48 AM |
| 8 | Women egocentrically define "maturity" and "responsibility" in terms of their own gender roleYeah, it’s a constant thorn this argument. Thank god it’s hanging in by its last gasping breath. Increasingly both people need to be in the workforce for the majority of child rearing. Mom might be home for the infant years but it is getting rarer that she remains so, then off to work again! Both of you 9:00am to 5:00pm - Monday to Friday! So there should be no more arguments right? Both sexes will both put their nose to the grindstone with home tasks and child care! Right??? 50/50 all the way d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 09:30 AM |
| 7 | Why do women get turned off if a guy is living with parents even though they live with parents too?Or he is older than her. So she has determined that she is more advanced than him in reaching these goals, therefore not at the same stage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/24 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Splitting the bill is not about money, it is about balance of interestThere is no consensus anymore and talking about it as if there is “Men always…”, “Women always…”, “ It means this….” is no longer viable. At best there is a mild range of expectations (and individual’s interpretation of them) based on the last gasps of older social norms. It’s not difficult however to have a basic understanding of both the older social rituals and the current ad hoc approach and navigate accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 11:33 PM |
| 2 | "Giving up on modern ........."Age and life experience will take care of a lot of it. Some will get stuck absolutely and become a statistic (as was always the case) but the majority will “settle” into the reality of life. By 35 years, most of the raging at the unfairness of life is done. Some unfortunate souls will end up with a lingering sense of “how did I end up on the treadmill with all the others!” But the majority will understand they brought the ticket and are now happy to take and enjoy the ride, the treadmill is simp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Is it true that women have higher standards for casual sex and for a relationship?Pretty much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 10:06 PM |
| 4 | Girls always shame you for approaching or “hitting on” multiple women, sharing screenshots of their dms trying to humiliate you but men are FORCED to cast a wide net due to the fact that most women are taken or “uninterested.”Oh, this one is easy! That’s just straight up old fashioned rudeness. Glad I could help! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.Ok, so if a young person is very well traveled, exposed to a large range of cultures and peoples and even their schooling partially completed in a significantly different environment to their birth - but at 20 they come home for a visit, and just happened to meet and eventually marry a boy/girl quite similar to themselves and their family? Based on your argument, does that happen to meet your criteria for a consideration of the whole person? Good decision making? They are exposed to a great deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.Sure, I think tribalism is for the most part unavoidable, but like all things socially it breaks down, or changes shape, or morphs, or adapts to societal forces - think religion as an example. And you are absolutely correct, tribes intermingle. It’s really neat. I’m almost positive at this point however that I’m not clear on your point in relation to multiculturalism. I think you are suggesting that tribalism (or generally group adherence) is a sticking point for social cohesion in multicultural… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.Ahh ok. I define a “Food snob” as someone who restricts their palate to a particular quality or experience of food. A food snob to me would turn their nose up at eating a hotdog at the football because it is not of the quality that they would like. But! This only serves my point. A food snob would be very comfortable in their tribe hence the benefit of a diverse society. Just as would the person enjoying the hotdog at the football, he may very well be dismayed at the small portions at a 5 star r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.food snobs ….. You will never get everyone to have a similar experience to a stimulus. What is a food snob to you is probably not a food snob to me - if only because my exposure to raw ingredients and different foods is different to yours. Once again, people are complicated. I doubt we could even agree on what a “food snob” is. What appears quite outrageous to some, becomes quite normal to others within their specific tribe. In terms of how widely you want to expose people to different stimuli, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 01:19 AM |
| 3 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.I think it might be a bit simpler than that, or at we pretended it was. I think for the majority of the time, people just feel like they are given more freedom to talk about the complicated aspects of being human more openly and therefore that is taken into consideration in terms of compatibility in partnerships. On top of that, society got a hell of a lot more accepting of diversity so not only were you more free to talk about who you are and what you like, when you did find a mate your family,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 11:57 PM |
| 1 | It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriendsSorry, isn’t that what the teenage years (or youth in general) is for? Trying out new stuff and meeting a diverse range of people outside your narrow little world your parents birthed you into. Yeah, I can assure you that there is a lot of folk that can look back on their dating history and think of at least one person that with the wisdom of hindsight they should have passed on. That experience however also probably (with a bit of luck) gave them the experience to know what to avoid in the futu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/24 03:40 AM |
| 8 | Alimony is a joke and so is marriageSo, basically you want the final say in how people live their life, organise their marriage or raise their kids? Unfortunately you don’t. I’m afraid you will just have to live with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Why should women take advice from people who loathe them?Child care services remain expensive….. Yes and no. Per hour for the service they provide they are not terribly expensive. However yes, when to comparing them to being “free” from mom or grandma they are expensive. However as I pointed out, that “free” service is bloody expensive at a human capital level if the system is reliant on a large portion of your population working under capacity. Best to have a system in place where you can maximise your human capital, particularly in a global economy.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/24 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Why should women take advice from people who loathe them?Perhaps, we will see. But we have been slowly outsourcing traditional gender role tasks quite cheerfully for a while now without an ounce of discomfort. Nice little franchises have popped up for lawn mowing, cleaning, cooking “home made meals” delivered straight to the home! Mobile car servicing, dog walking - you get the idea. Child care services are standard now, and specialised from an incredibly young age. Aftercare services at school. It’s not like we have far to go. As for “massive spendin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 08:06 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is contributing to the male loneliness epidemic?Are we sure? The education system that my father and grandfather went through when it wasn’t “feminised” pretty much beat boys for using their pen in the wrong hand, boyish behaviour in class, not bringing correct items to school, disrespect and so on. I’m only going on memory for the conversations I had, but it didn’t not seem like a very flexible, rowdy like environment. Yep, they had sports that’s true, and more “boy stuff” but they do today. The difference seems to be that the boys who didn’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/24 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Why should women take advice from people who loathe them?Nothing ever stays the same, just as nothing ever returns in its original form. How could it possibly? When the factors in a society are so radically different at each point in history. Yes. Change is inevitable and it will be replaced by something else. The “Age Of The Housewife” (1950’s version) isn’t coming back, the role has almost been entirely eliminated by tech anyway (washing machines, fridges, Roomba, dishwashers) and it just keeps on advancing. Kids start school at 3 year old kindergar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimSo, basically the answer is no? There is actually no indication whatsoever that the intervention is perceived as negative? Yeah, you are right. I didn’t need the questions answered to make my point and he doesn’t actually need to answer them for them to be useful. The very act of knowing you can ask questions to challenge your perception of a situation is often enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Feminists try to shame men out of their advantages in the dating marketI’m not surprised. That’s my experience as well. I was trying to be polite when I used the word “worry”. In reality it does tend to get a bit of a strong reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 09:45 PM |
| 7 | Feminists try to shame men out of their advantages in the dating marketDoubt it, or at least to the degree you are thinking. People have been running interference regarding older men for as long as I have been aware. Hoping your daughter will meet “a suitable young man” or “a suitable boy” is a common phrase. You might tolerate your daughter marrying someone older but there is probably other circumstances going on or you might not have much of a choice. I doubt you will think it’s ideal or be overly pleased though. It’s not what most people envision for her wedding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 04:28 AM |
| 2 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimOr the next morning sheepish hangover phone call “I’m so sorry! How bad was I? I puked everywhere and I feel like shit, I need coffee!” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 03:44 AM |
| 6 | Most of the time when a woman cock blocks her friend at the bar, it is out of jealousy not to “save her” as most women will try to claimDo they also witness the cute girl circling back and picking them up later in the evening when the friend is getting a drink and distracted? Do they witness the girl saying “my friend’s come to get me (insert eye roll) shoot me your number and I will give you a call later?” Do they witness some “back of the bar” argument where the girl is protesting the “intervention”? Does the cute girl go back to dancing quite happily suggesting that she is not exactly dismayed over losing their company? Basic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 11:53 PM |
| 35 | Feminists try to shame men out of their advantages in the dating marketFeminists will have to stand in line after parents. I have yet to see normal average Moms and Dads not worry about age gap relationships when very young adults are involved (whether it be a son or daughter). Very few parents want a much older man kicking his boots under their dinner table at Sunday lunch eyeing up their early 20’s daughter. A lot will do their best to actively intervene. Oh, and then there is the judgement of society in general. Hang on, why are you blaming Feminists again? Go b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Are guys maturing faster than women in the US and that's a problem?Look, on the surface that’s not bad advice but like most things you need a working strategy for the environment you are operating in. In reality it kind of works like this: The majority of people between 18 and 22-23 are not interested in settling down. They are focused on other things and seldom are not even sure what “settling down” will look like for them yet. In regards to “locking down” anyone, it’s hard because you are fishing in a pool where the majority don’t want to be locked down, don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 01:05 AM |
| 2 | So uh... how about that fertility crisis huh?Hmmm, ok. So you are saying it’s probably safer to not have children or to perhaps only have male children? I mean, most parents wouldn’t want to create a child into a situation where they have limited to no rights. I mean it’s not just the lack of rights, but also the policing needed to enforce the lack of rights. It’s a pretty awful thought when applied to someone you love. I could see where that could be off putting. The remaining ones that are a little more self centred wouldn’t want to inve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:23 PM |
| 2 | So uh... how about that fertility crisis huh?How about this option? Currently there is a basic concept of separation of work life and family life. Under our strong profit driven system, I think there could be the possibility of merger of a lot of the heavy lifting of raising children and the need for increased birth rates picked up by the labour force and pitched as workplace benefits. It could streamline the process and get rid of a lot of the push/pull of work life balance and the vastly reduce costs of raising a family. There are 3 prim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:47 AM |
| 1 | What’s your opinion on the 4B movement coming to America?believe the solution is to insult and belittle these women into settling. Amazingly, this has not had the intended effect. Eh, it is a very old social control mechanism designed to reinforce social norms. Stigmatising and shaming, it’s very much in play today (think drugs and alcohol, gambling, STD’s) but it’s pretty ineffective if the norm isn’t current. It still works pretty well on a current norm where society widely expects adherence. Society’s expectations of young women marrying and having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/24 11:08 PM |
| 14 | Why do people get so defensive about casual sex/hookups?Hmmm, I don’t often see people feel the need to “defend” the actual sex act itself, in fact they seem to be quite comfortable that their choice and it seems to come down to “ he was attractive to me, I wanted to and I did. It’s all good”. What they seem to be defending against is other people’s framing of their action which is often put in negative terms. I don’t need to list them, they are well known. If anything, people seem more and more comfortable with the act of having sex on their terms, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/24 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Humans will eventually become a male-only species.Birth rates are plummeting across the developed world. Oh sure and that’s a complex issue. I’m just saying that making and raising humans artificially is going to come with a price tag that is astronomical. I can imagine it being a viable medical procedure in the situation where there is a medical need to intervene when something has gone wrong with a gestation process, it will have great medical benefits, but even then I’m guessing your insurance company will still flinch when they get the bill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Humans will eventually become a male-only species.Hmmm doubt it. All the drama aside, look at it from a purely financial point of view. Every human both historically or currently walking on this planet was gestated and birthed from a womb. It takes around 9 months per human. Sometimes you may get two if you are lucky. Humans are the default basis of humanity. Currently society gets new humans for pretty much free. In fact, oddly enough those humans wishing to reproduce will pretty much pay for the whole gig themselves! Stunningly, parents will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Do you think weaponised incompetence around housework exists? If not, why not? If so, where do you think it comes from?A lot can simply come down to motivation and consequential thinking skills. Those skills are generally learned in childhood. A lot of general life skills are learned early, are developmental miles stones and very transferable. A man who can clean and detail a car can obviously apply those skills to other environments. Very little adjustment needed and the skills needed to make those adjustments are well developed in a normally functioning adult. A nurse that has to skills to perform in an orderl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 12:29 PM |
| 5 | Do you think weaponised incompetence around housework exists? If not, why not? If so, where do you think it comes from?Clever comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 12:10 PM |
| 2 | Women, what's something (behaviour, presentation, expression) traditionally seen as "feminine" that you find attractive in men? Men, what's something traditionally seen as "masculine" that you find attractive in women?Heck, I’m impressed and I haven’t even met him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 10:51 PM |
| 4 | Men of this sub, do you believe that most men have practically no standards?I couldn’t agree with you more. I think it differs across the social classes / socioeconomic groups though which is why you see people on PPD arguing with each other and giving antidotes that “prove” wildly different perspectives. From my experience men approach marriage very cautiously and marry people within their socioeconomic group, close to their age and with similar values and family upbringing. All of which are standards. Obviously looking at divorce statistics alone, there are other part… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 10:42 PM |
| – | The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around.I see. That’s sad. Best of luck to you both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 04:13 AM |
| – | The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around.Neat. Are you then saying you married someone you perceive likes you more? Or are you saying that when dating it was a better experience when the other person likes you more but you only entered into a life time commitment with someone you feel very strongly about? I’m not surprised at all than when dating it’s very nice to have someone like you more, the advantages are obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 03:55 AM |
| – | The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around.Are you married? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 02:50 AM |
| 12 | Question: If a woman asks for a divorce over emotional needs, is it okay to divorce over physical needs?I don’t understand? Is communication not a valid technique for maintaining a marriage? So she doesn’t want to be married to a wallet? Look, like everyone in a long term relationship he will listen and respond or he will not. Yes sometimes the listening and responding is bloody hard, it is enormously attractive to say “but I do all these other things!” and get angry, dismissive and evasive. It is also really easy to get resentful and say “well you suck at this, so shut the hell up”. Hearing stuff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 12:45 AM |
| 15 | Question: If a woman asks for a divorce over emotional needs, is it okay to divorce over physical needs?There are penalties. Huge ones. It takes quite a bit to divorce, particularly after 20 years. For most people untangling the mess takes work. Even people going through the very civilised “youngest kid just finished secondary education” divorce have to untangle a life and get all their kids and family through the other side. Let alone the legalities. You can load more social penalties on top if you like but they will probably be thrown on the “shit I will deal with later” pile with all the other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 12:33 AM |
| 3 | Are older single women truly the happiest?single older women are the happiest older demographic In my experience it certainly looks that way. But like most things, it’s complicated. In my experience it looks like this: “Happiness” is in comparison to the misery of the boredom of the marriage they have left. “Happiness” is a state reached after processing the death of a husband. “Happiness” is compared to deciding to exit the older dating market. “Happiness” is (and this is a big one) of aging out of societal expectations of being a wife… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 11:26 PM |
| 3 | The wall is real and provable with statisticssees women with four children to four different fathers “Thank you for your service in reducing the falling birth rates!” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Why would women be jealous of a young woman getting married, if they want to ride the CC instead?It’s actually a very old phenomenon and part of the old marriage cycle. Without the long term marriage reinforcers these days though it also one of the factors that leads to early divorce. Marriage is a major milestone, a highly celebrated and recognised load stone life event. For young people, a marriage in their specific social circle is very exciting and to be one of the first to experience this marker of adulthood is pretty big. Other young people are obviously going to be a bit jealous, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 12:33 AM |
| – | Guys spend way more money on dating, get wayyy less than womenOh, so you are advertising here? That’s actually quite clever. Gather a little following, encourage people to feel like they are following your journey from the ground up, casually throw suggest that you have money, lifestyle that they aspire to (you have done most of the hard work that they don’t want to - Gym, Finances, Traditional Markers of wealth) so it will be an entertaining watch! Are you trying to pick up some of Andrew Tates old followers? Personally I think that approach is a bit date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 12:01 AM |
| 0 | There are many benefits to having kids early and people who wait as long as possible are shooting themselves in the foot.If only it was just a medical consideration right? How nice that would be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 11:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV : Hoeflation is crazy but WhoRecession is gonna be wildYou are missing the shift in social norms that almost certainly will continue to influence the majority of the population. You already know the concept because you live it, and as a human, have been socialised into it. Basically, what is considered “normal” by the majority of your peers or primary influencing factors will be what is considered normal to you - the general “you” not “you” specifically. This holds the majority of the time unless there is a major disruption factor or the norm within… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 03:26 AM |
| 3 | Consequences for high status menThere are consequences to everything, it’s all about what resources you have available to manage them and how personally resilient you are to them. There is no avoiding that exposing yourself to a wide variety of people will expose you to the complexity of interacting with a wide variety of people. Also exposing yourself to a wide variety of people tends to expose you to a wider range of environments and their accompanying habits and quirks. Some people come out relatively unscathed, some people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 11:19 AM |
| 0 | Why do some men feel the need to “test” you when you state your interests?I’m not sure it’s a “test” as such, it tends to happen when you are interacting with someone who has no social grace and can’t read the room or adjust in a flexible way to who they are communicating with. People who are well socialised can avoid killing a conversation and minimise social discomfort in a wide variety of situations. It doesn’t really matter whether it’s an area of interest or not. If you have just met someone and the opening conversation happens to be an area you hold knowledge, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 12:21 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkNo, not really. At least not to the degree that it changes pretty fundamentally who you are and how you interact with your partner. It seems to happen pretty regularly in that transition between dating and moving in together. Dating provides a fairly specific period of time where the attention is on each other and the relationship. When you move in together that specific stand alone period of time falls away. Dating time also tends to get reallocated to “me time” as the person is around you all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI’m not forcing your comment anywhere. My over all point was that each relationship is unique to the individuals involved. Full stop. If the people involved find it difficult to manage under a specific situation (say, when things don’t get done due to habit) then it’s a problem for them. For another couple, it might not be a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 02:38 AM |
| 3 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkthe man you loved obviously has trouble regulating his emotions,but instead of giving him the chance to work on it.., No. I mean some people will but that’s a choice. The ability to make a choice is also something that remains across an entire lifetime. You might have made a choice 6 months ago to try and see if you can make it work and he can make progress. You can make a choice today that the personal cost is too high and it is not viable. That is part of your own emotional regulation and main… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 11:35 PM |
| 6 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkSure. But each relationship is different. There is absolutely relationships out there where it is a variation of a kind of parent child relationship. Just as there are many other variations. Relationships are unique entities that are formulated directly by the people in them. They grow and change as the relationship grows and changes. But! And here is the key! If the relationship takes on a form that the people involved can’t tolerate, then it is problematic. A person in the relationship can lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 10:18 PM |
| 16 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI think people get use to their partner’s trying. People get use to their partner’s trying to get them to do housework People get use to their partner’s trying to get them to budget People get use to their partner’s trying to get them to communicate appropriately People get use to their partner’s trying to get them to hold down a job People get use to their partner’s trying to get them to spend time with them It becomes the new normal. It appears to becomes the new “normal” way they both interac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many gay men get along with straight women?Holy flashbacks to “Footloose” Batman! Settle down there Reverend Shaw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/24 09:51 PM |
| 3 | What is your solution to the issues in dating?Some people are using it and enjoying it. Perhaps leave it alone for those folk? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 10:03 PM |
| 2 | do you guys people who can fight?If you say so. I’m not going to argue biology with you, I’m just stating the reality of the situation. A lot of people pair up though, and seriously in some cases that I have met directly through friends and family their biology must be seriously miss wired because I’m not even sure they can change a tire let alone fight off an attacker. I’m kind of glad they are so attached to their phones… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 07:43 AM |
| 6 | do you guys people who can fight?Are you perhaps not thinking through the practical nature of your post? I mean, when exactly are you going to provide this “protection” service? Most men kiss their wives, girlfriends or family members and walk out the door for 8 hours work / 5 days per week. The women in the family are probably off for work as well. The other home related tasks - supermarket, school drop offs, getting the mail? How many hours per day realistically are you “protecting” your loved one being the tough guy? Chances… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 07:10 AM |
| 1 | How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't?Sure. Rest assured there is no suit of armour. I was curious that’s all. I’m not even going to be up in arms about your comments that it was focused on providing benefits to women. I agree. Mostly I was just surprised to see you in your previous post suggest it was a bit passive “be nice” kind of thing. I think the proof is all around that there is very little passive about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Do Any of You WANT An Arranged Marriage? Why? Who Should Arrange it?Can I ask a few questions? Feel free not to answer. When parents are contacting their network, is there a kind of obligation for their son to be somewhat compliant if he agrees to attend a meet? I mean in terms of social obligation, if your son or daughter attends and if one is agreeable to the idea and one is not, is that easily to managed socially? Is there some sort of social process built in where it’s just understood that it is ok? I guess there is also the question of the level of flexibil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 02:42 AM |
| 3 | Do Any of You WANT An Arranged Marriage? Why? Who Should Arrange it?Oh interesting! Do you happen to know the criteria put forward to meet approval of the family? I think that would be fascinating. I ask because it is my understanding that it is kind of a bio profile system that is reviewed by both families prior to the first meeting if the families don’t know each other. I apologise I’m wrong, perhaps I have been watching too much TV! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 02:26 AM |
| 1 | How do you feel about the fact that women are encouraged to do things in relationships that men aren't?if you show me some examples of feminism that plainly explain to women that “being nice” isn’t good enough I find your comment curious. I in know way challenging it, and I don’t have any quotes for you, but curious nonetheless the less. I guess my primary thought is the massive change that feminism has brought about in the social structure and progress of women entering into education, the workforce and so on I would have never labeled it the “just be nice” movement. It was so damn rapid as well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Female Attraction StandardsDeep down, women want to do this. They want to be more like their nature I honestly think if you are after any type of “truth” as you claim, you have to throw this concept out the window. After all what is “traditional feminine nature?” If you look at your Stone Age women, then feminine nature would have been incredibly aggressive even to survive, compared at least to today’s standards. Feminine tasks would have been labor intensive and dangerous. Traditional tasks around food, water and clothin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Female Attraction StandardsShort cuts? Sure and we are not muggles, we are pretty adaptable. But we are also enormously influenced by the factors that maintain life - food, water, housing, heating (cooling in some areas) and are influenced enormously to ongoing stress factors. Those factors are almost entirely affected by the economy. We buy water, food, housing, heating and so on, and stress is stunningly influenced by the ability to maintain income and offset financial disaster. You want to short cut? You could start th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 02:45 AM |
| 2 | Female Attraction StandardsMost of those ideas seem …. Not at all. Look at conservation for animal populations. If I suddenly paid you a fortune to save an animal population of muggles in a dying swamp in Muggledom that was being killed off by Puggles that were stressing their environment, had them running around ceaselessly to keep a hut over their heads and food in the cupboard, their food was fake and processed and the swap was being drained and poisoned, and they were know longer hanging out together. Their overall he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Female Attraction StandardsThe Stone Age? Modern humans could be as different from the Stone Age folk as poodles are from wolves but I do get your point. As many as possible? Sure, but there are very obvious places to start and it is expensive! Taking a purely sensible approach, we can start vastly (vastly!) reducing to stress under which we live. Stress has been measured repeatedly to affect the health and reproductive capabilities of animal populations. We can (vastly!) increase the time and opportunities available for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 02:15 AM |
| 3 | Female Attraction StandardsI think you are asking a question that is almost impossible to answer. The problem is here: undid possible inflation of standards and selectivity Because you would need a baseline to compare with, and therefore attempt to settle on a baseline of standards and a norm for selectivity. You could argue indefinitely where that is. To illustrate my point, exclude humanity from the argument entirely. Imagine a mythical animal in a mythical environment and start from there. To create a baseline you woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever considered that love (in the romantic sense) is a lie?Do they? Or are you assuming? I think the variation of people’s experiences with marriage and love would be as wide as the ocean - particularly across all cultures. Just as the language used to describe it as equally variable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/24 03:57 AM |
| 5 | Have you ever considered that love (in the romantic sense) is a lie?You can be married and “in love” but not happy. You can be married happily and not “in love”. You can experience the feelings of being “in love” multiple times and it may feel different each time. You can be “in love” and the experience be devastating or joyful. In other words, be careful with whom you love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Is a One Night Stand the truest form of a woman showing Burning Sexual Desire?Come on! You are being deliberately obtuse. Men are doing those things knowing full well that the situation could go very badly, but it also has the potential to be amazing. For example, yes they enjoy surfing over all, but there are definitely days when they take their board out there is potential that it could be absolutely shit or it could be amazing. You can like sex over all, and a ONS could have the potential to be absolutely shit or it could be amazing. As I said - optimism, alcohol, bore… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Is a One Night Stand the truest form of a woman showing Burning Sexual Desire?I don’t know, I don’t have an issue with understanding it at all. There are heaps of experiences that potentially have drawbacks and dangers, but also have the potential to be pleasant that people give a go. Particularly young people. I don’t know why this one is giving you pause. Young men are shockers for taking risks for stuff that is “no big deal”. Driving to fast, surfing in rough weather, I saw a young person attempt to jump over a barrier the other day and it didn’t go well. It’s a pleasa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Is a One Night Stand the truest form of a woman showing Burning Sexual Desire?Optimism, alcohol, boredom. You know, that same feeling of optimism that you get when you try for the 30th time to land that skateboard jump? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 10:10 AM |
| 1 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runDid you check the date on the data covered in the paper you linked (1960-2015) your link? Here, I will help you out, you can look at the trend here. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN Edit to state that https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KZ is doing quite well…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 10:52 PM |
| – | Cheating when you have a dead bedroom isn't justified but it is understandable.Indeed as adults we are really good at it and so should we be. It’s the basis of most adult responsibilities and our legal system and we learn it young. Our decision making abilities are quite sophisticated. It’s why you see a bunch of nonsense and excuses when the cheating spouse is caught that is reliant on an emotional reaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 09:36 AM |
| – | Cheating when you have a dead bedroom isn't justified but it is understandable.but what if they never get caught? Most people don’t calculate risk like this, at least into adulthood. It’s the old caricature of the “the criminal” cackling and rubbing their hands in glee prior to robbing a bank you see in children’s cartoons, the next scene is all the police cars rushing up. Of course this is funny because even children can grasp the basics of consequential thinking and realise that there is a chance you will indeed get caught in such a set up. Consequential thinking allows … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 09:11 AM |
| – | Cheating when you have a dead bedroom isn't justified but it is understandable.Sure, most things are “understandable” depending on the context, and the willingness of others to understand. Even some horrors. What is really relevant however is whether those involved are willing to deal with the entire ramifications of cheating - whether you be the party cheated on, or the cheater, or the family/parents and children of the cheater, or the family of the party cheated on, or the co- workers of the cheater and so on. There is a ripple effect to breaking social rules like these.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 08:00 AM |
| 3 | Why do women cause dead bedrooms but get upset when their husbands cheat?seems like it would be more rational Really? Or naively simplistic? Are people allowed to lay a claim to rational or logical thinking when they are either not considering all the relevant factors or deliberately not doing so? I don’t mean that directly aimed at you, but also more broadly to some of the comments found here. The word “Logical” is thrown around a lot with a bit of chest thumping thrown in, and my god some of the comments fall way short of “logic” or even slightly “realistic”. Anywa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 03:11 AM |
| 6 | Why do women cause dead bedrooms but get upset when their husbands cheat?why should they care You know why the majority care, don’t pretend you don’t for the sake of argument. Those that truly don’t care can negotiate that and do. A relationship is nothing other than a concept negotiated out between the people involved. It is as flexible or as traditional as allowed by those who form it. Conceptually you are married and legally you are married, they are two different things. You can be legally married and check out mentally/ conceptually. What is critically destructi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 02:22 AM |
| 7 | Why do women cause dead bedrooms but get upset when their husbands cheat?That not a gendered thing really though? If your husband doesn’t want to have sex with you for whatever reason, and you are discreet, and you treat him with love and respect what reason would he have to suspect? I mean, how would he ever know right? Chances are he is away from home for hours, or you are both at work for hours a day. A lot of couples fall into best friend roles, or husband’s gaming long hours into the night, or whatever. It is really not uncommon for men to find their sex drive f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Nonsense. That fat balding previously divorced 50 year old man is going to get a “desirable mate” that isn’t considering his 400,000? You mean desirable physically? That 50 year old woman can probably find a physically attractive 40 year old man (or younger) who is happy to live a lifestyle if she puts her mind to it. That’s reality. Attractive in some other way? What way? Once again, if you are happy to buy, if you have excepted that reality and you look hard enough then you can probably make i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.I’m not talking about generally, I’m talking about people in their 50s. Unless you are trying to tell me that the “nurse and a purse” thing is not real? That women with housing and means are not targeted by older men and it’s not an option for them? Or that there isn’t an option to pick from a selection of men in their 40’s that wouldn’t find an income of 400,000 attractive for whatever reason? If so, I happen to have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.If they are both aging in a similar fashion then the market remains the same. A woman earning that can tap into the funded boyfriend market or the nurse and a purse market (which is frankly huge!). The man can tap into the funded hot chick gold digger market. Let’s not pretend for one second that money won’t get you something if you really look and it’s what you are willing to buy. Both can tap into the “I met a nice person through market” if it happens to come your way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 11:18 PM |
| 1 | If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single?If people are really confused, spend a week or so hanging around your local court. You can get a glimpse of who is in violent relationships or what those “bad boys” who commit various crimes really look like. You can see who is weeping because the “bad boy” just got locked away for 5 years. Or check out the single moms and baby daddies at family court who don’t pay child support and see if they are really “Chad” who is getting away with not committing and “spreading his seed”. Feel free to check… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 10:17 PM |
| – | 'Better than real men': Young Chinese women turn to AI boyfriendsI can, it can easily be built into a romantic narrative. “Couples” split bank account where her wages are auto allocated. The AI can access and manage all the household finances and a little extra savings in there to purchase her those special gift she has been “hinting at”. Christmas/Birthday/ date night budgets. Home delivery, gift wrapped, personal card services. All very doable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 10:04 PM |
| – | 'Better than real men': Young Chinese women turn to AI boyfriendsI have always thought that AI was a better fit for women. Currently it would just be a version of her favourite romance novel except in audio that she can actually interact with. With home tech the way it’s heading AI can have the lights dimmed, romantic music on and a bath running as she is walking in the door from a long day at work. The AI boyfriend can easily do those little validating tasks like running the Roomba, turning on the coffee maker prior to her waking, or having the groceries del… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Women make different men they date play by different rulesI don’t think your experience is unusual to be honest. I think this observation is lost due to stereotypes. The stereotype is that it is women that push against sex and men that are always trying to escape some type of even minimal commitment. What is lost in the stereotypes is the on the ground complex negotiation of trying to formulate an actual relationship. For instance, I have observed quite a number of men (both younger and older) really dig in to leverage enough space for an actual relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 02:51 AM |
| 2 | "Women on average handle being single better"Yes, over all I do believe your point about how there is a difference in how we tolerate boys and girls communicating and expressing themselves. Perhaps I misread your original post and didn’t identify your point correctly, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 10:15 PM |
| 2 | "Women on average handle being single better"Hmm I’m not so sure anymore that this is correct: In your first paragraph you state that it is boys that are valued more for what they achieve. I believe that in today’s society there is now academically very high demands on girls, perhaps even more so than boys. The education system is very responsive to girls, girls are better suited to sitting still for longer periods so even at a young age they tend to respond quite well to the educational setting and it perpetuates teachers and parental exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 09:45 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to romantic, or frankly any kind of relationship, love must be conditional.If you really love someone it’s unconditional like people love their children. Oh boy! Well at least I’m sure of one thing internet stranger! You have never worked in child protection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 09:31 PM |
| – | If female hypergamy is real, how can elite women be in a relationship?True, but the actual game plan before that happened was for a Windsor to marry a Spencer. Let’s not forget that small fact…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 02:20 AM |
| 2 | If a man is failing to attract the women he wants, and he is a good person, what options does he have aside from lowering his standards or giving up?Is it just me or is this remarkably vague? What kind of answer are you after? The question is: A man, who is not bad and attempting to date, wants the attention of undefined but very specific women however is currently unsuccessful. What are his options? I mean? One of his options is to perhaps consider some of the details of the issue? It might bring some clarity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 12:31 AM |
| 16 | If female hypergamy is real, how can elite women be in a relationship?The super rich and powerful plays the hypergamy game like no other. Have you never heard of blood lines? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Most of what gives women the "Ick" is just what got you called "Gay" by dude brosThat’s the wonderful thing about fashion, there is points in history when men indeed wore high heals, wigs, certainly stockings and it marked them as part of the “noble” class. Cowboys have rocked Cuban heals without risking their masculinity. Rock and Roll has given us many artists that have worn heals though it could be argued it is part of the appeal was the challenge. Make up for men is not that unusual, Egyptian men, French court blah blah. Makeup for men seems to be pretty huge in K-pop at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | That Time Someone Asked "What Makes a Female Creepy?"She sounds really unwell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 09:18 PM |
| 8 | That Time Someone Asked "What Makes a Female Creepy?"Yep, it’s your social circle. There are guys out there in group chats or online sharing nudes of their girlfriends/wives with their “bros”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Men are having less sex, but women are somehow contracting more STDsI see…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 12:26 AM |
| 2 | If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want?Ok that’s reasonable. What is equally reasonable is to acknowledge that the system that was in place was inherently systematically lacking in failsafes for people who were exposed to the more negative element’s marriage and romantic relationships. Those were quite well documented in the law, hospital records, school records, various charity organisations that often tried to provide a response and funding, even literature. If it went bad, it could go very badly and there was little recourse for t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 11:51 PM |
| 2 | If the game itself is not fair, does it justify not playing fair to get what you want?Hang on, are you suggesting that there was no violence or coercion within the system of marriage or romantic relationships prior to say the 1900’s? Or 1800’s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 11:15 PM |
| 3 | Doesn't being "on guard" with all men just drive away good men and leave only predators?meet up if it’s daytime and there are “witnesses”. Yes. It’s pure delusion and paranoia. I don’t know dude, you might have to take that up pretty widely then. No woman is going to get inpatient psychiatric help for following those directions because they are standard directions. The “witness” statement is clumsy I agree, but meeting a stranger for the first time in the daytime in a public place? That’s both sensible and prudent. A quick google search brought up the following in terms of standard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/24 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Women punching too high in datingI think you were strongly alluding to something but I am not willing to walk myself out onto a limb to bridge the final gap for you, so I will leave your possible main message alone. But I did want to comment on your concept of choice, consequence and “being bitten on the ass in a way you are possibly underestimating”. The short and sweet of it is with these major life choices, there is almost with certainty positive and negative consequences either way. To suggest otherwise is naive. There is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 11:25 PM |
| – | I've heard it's never a good idea to tell a woman your body count, but what do/should guys say instead of revealing it?Because I know it will be better if she doesn’t know. Not necessarily, that will be determined almost entirely on how she fills in the blanks and why she wants to know. It’s fair to reason that when a partner refuses to answer a question it’s probably because they believe you won’t like the answer. The stronger the resistance, the worse the answer. Is that fair? Probably not, but it is likely. Your mystique theory probably went out the window about a day ago and you are fast running into outrigh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Men are having less sex, but women are somehow contracting more STDsSocietal reality is that war and collapse will reset the board. I’m sure you won’t object if I form my opinions of the future from sources that sound a little more measured, well grounded and controlled than yours. I have never been a big fan of “the sky is falling” approach to problem solving. It tends to add a certain lack of clarity into the mix that is unnecessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Men are having less sex, but women are somehow contracting more STDsYou can try I guess. I’m guessing however if I had the direct phone number for the “Director of Women’s Behaviour” and gave her call right now with your suggestion, even she might have trouble pulling that off in under a generation or two. You can lecture and type all you like - knock yourself out. I was just trying to converse in something that was somewhat in societal reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 06:00 AM |
| 16 | Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man?The term “addiction” is very specific. Its would be highly unusual for someone to use it in a positive context. It is generally used in the context of a dependency on a substance or activity even if you know it is doing you harm and is impactful on your daily life. How can anyone see this as a positive thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/24 11:10 PM |
| 8 | Why do majority of women say they want their man to be a confident leader, yet most women today are reluctant to be obedient/submissive?Interesting. Your overall point aside, I actually find it really interesting this concept of “Men/leaders and Women/obedient submissive”. I believe that men understand how to submit incredibly well. Most male dominant structures are formed around submission to authority, just look at the military. Groups of boys tend to fall into a hierarchy very quickly with a primary leader, gangs also. The workplace typically has a type of leadership authority and submission to that authority. What is really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/24 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Men are having less sex, but women are somehow contracting more STDsSTDs are problem in the community. If you really have concerns about this you should be advocating like hell for increased sex education across the population, access to free condoms, increased (or free) access to sexual health testing and increased funding for research in this area. Telling people to not have sex is useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/24 12:38 AM |
| 1 | It seems for the average guy every woman is suddenly "demisexual"Nonsense, there has always been a bit of a double standard that way. It doesn’t matter anyway, not everyone will get the same experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids?Oh yeah, there is not a lot of safeguards, I totally agree. Arranged marriage fascinates me. I have never actually met anyone in an arranged marriage. I did visit one of the reddit forums for Arranged Marriage out of curiosity and read my way through for ages. I got the impression that like most things family related it can be done very well or very badly. To be honest I’m a bit terrified at the thought of who my parents might have considered a suitable partner for me though. My partner was foun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 06:19 AM |
| 3 | What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids?Good to hear. Conceptually I just find it a little bemusing. If you don’t have an understanding of what your life goals are, or at least a vague idea of what kind of life you wish to have then it’s a bit hard to invite someone else to join you in the journey. And it goes the other way as well, if they don’t have any idea for their own life, it’s silly for them to accept your invitation for a joint journey, simply because you might be heading in the wrong direction. Then there is the critical det… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 05:53 AM |
| 2 | What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids?Ouch, I’m sorry to hear that. I bet that was a hard lesson to learn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 05:30 AM |
| 3 | What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids?Many couples neglect discussing big issues before they make a forever commitment. Seriously, this does my head in. I have heard some people give more detailed attention to the features of a car they are considering buying than they give to their goals or life plan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 05:23 AM |
| 5 | What's your opinion on men who want to date long term by don't want to get married or have kids?I get the attraction of this but in all practicality I think it would play havoc with long term planning such as big ticket items like property or long term time investments like kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 04:55 AM |
| 1 | What will be the longterm implications of the erosion of the "Women's are wonderful" effect in dating and relationships?I’m not sure. There has been a lot written about the factors driving this and a lot seems to be cultural or economic. But importantly the reinforcing factors, those factors that keep the division in place even as young people get a bit older and might be slightly more interested in a long term relationship even if it’s hard, are hard to shift. I’m not saying we won’t have similar problems, but I think it will be a bit different and we might be have a bit more buffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low?Sure but the same thing can be said for tax funded public healthcare system. You may not need it but funding the healthcare of the general population means healthier population and workers and healthier future population and workers. Treating illness early means less complications or a more expensive treatment later. Critical thinking and all that. But it’s unattractive at the increase taxes stage of the argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low?100% agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 01:43 AM |
| 2 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themYou should try to sometimes look at women’s eyes when walking down the street I agree. It doesn’t even have to be just women. Meeting someone’s eye contact and then not sliding your eye contact away indicates to that person that they have your attention. You often can literally see their attention turn on back to you in response. If you flash a very brief smile a large portion of people will flash a smile back, some will frown, some will deliberately cut eye contact just like pulling down the sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/24 12:07 AM |
| 6 | If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of themDrunk women will **** anything. I swear sometimes I get whiplash here. It’s dangerous to go from “Women wont have sex with most men” to “Drunk women will **** anything” to quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us?You need to take education seriously. It’s a critical time in your development and those skills are massively important over your life time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 07:28 AM |
| 3 | Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us?Sure, but 80-90% of women cheating, assuming they are cheating with men, still requires a lot of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:42 AM |
| 6 | Why do women require bottomless trust from men but don’t give an ounce to us?85-90% holy heck. Who are they cheating with btw out of curiosity? They must be very busy lads as that’s a hell of a lot of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 06:32 AM |
| 4 | Stop the Gaslight 1: BluepillYes? Im failing to see your point? Are you under the impression that in research once you find a result it’s a once and done deal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 12:32 AM |
| 3 | Stop the Gaslight 1: BluepillSocial science research is enormous and its uses vast in terms of projections and planning. The scope is just huge. Perhaps it would be helpful for you to give me an idea of you are referring to in terms of barely reproducible? I’m struggling to reply based on that alone. I cant help but start with the amount of research undertaken on social isolation due to C19 and the responding programs and interventions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/24 12:20 AM |
| 5 | Stop the Gaslight 1: BluepillSo are you saying all social researchers are Red Pilled? Or perhaps all professions that are qualified to lead social programs based on empirical research and research supported outcomes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 11:59 PM |
| 4 | Stop the Gaslight 1: Bluepillgenerally accepted social beliefs in dating Wow, that broad right? I mean, hugely broad unless I’m missing something. I’m assuming we are at least trying to limit that to Western Social beliefs and norms? So basically we are going across the spectrum from asking parents permission to date ——-> picking up from an alternative night club? I think even that’s limited if we are including the differences between generations? Religions? Socioeconomic differences? The dating social norms from hippies th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | The reason that having SWAGGER works with women is that most of them will fall for the same sales pitchOof yep. That makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 11:13 PM |
| 3 | The reason that having SWAGGER works with women is that most of them will fall for the same sales pitchThis doesn’t surprise me at all. What are your thoughts on why they are the hardest sell though? Edit: for clarification | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 09:12 PM |
| 6 | Opinions on single parents by choice?I think like most things with family, you can do it well and you can do it very very badly. I think people are a little shocked out how expensive children are. It sounds like I’m being insulting when I say this but I’m really not trying to be - it’s not like buying a puppy. You don’t get to look at the litter and choose the most healthy and active one. Your child could very well have health problems at birth or develop them through childhood, some of which may vastly extend beyond your financial… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 05:51 AM |
| 4 | What do you think will be the next big paradigm shift in dating and relationships after OLD?Long terms relationship dynamics are strongly connected to the economy simply because the stuff that maintains life is also directly tied to the economy- housing, water, food, heating, cooling, healthcare. The ability to have offspring (and how many) is also therefore tied to the economy and its limitations. Long terms goals and expectations are reliant on income or available funds - wife/husband/kids/white picket fence/travel/education/retirement all need to be financed. Relationships will form… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 03:10 AM |
| 3 | CMV- Men who struggle to date in today’s social climate have serious physical, social, or emotional flaws.If that’s a criteria for you that’s fine. It’s a choice. It’s the fact you mentioned the word “norm” that makes your comment interesting. I’m assuming you mean “social norm”? The social norm for most Western Countries is that pre marital sex among the population is generally accepted unless you are discussing an increasingly shrinking part of the community that still holds more conservative norms. You can check general sexual behaviour among the population which tends to strongly influence the “… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 12:41 AM |
| 1 | The problem with dating advice today is that people are seen as trophies rather than investmentsKind of, long term relationships (marriage) is a bit like a business merger in a way. The final entity after the merger will obviously be strongly influenced by the two businesses merging, the goals that they have for the merger and the quality of planning. If you were asked to seek out suitable businesses, access and make a viable successful business plan for the merger of two businesses with projections for around 70 years, what would be entered into consideration? What are the goals of the ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 11:40 PM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.It’s very relevant if we are talking about privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 07:58 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Hmmm there are many documentaries about poor kids, and hospitals records, and police records, and social work records, and school records, and personal diaries and historical records… They seem pretty miserable as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 07:49 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Yes, I’m not sure he has a grasp on the advantages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 06:43 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Sorry dude, I’m taking the money. I’m sure my personal chef, Personal Trainer, luxury five star fitness retreat, and surgeon can mitigate any challenges that ugly/fat could bring. And if I can’t be bothered? Oh well, I’m sure I can find something that can assist with my disappointment. Perhaps I will ponder it sipping a martini on the yacht while I can consider how much money I’m donating to the Arts and Charity this year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 06:32 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.I’m sure the wealthy can ponder this deep question from their personal jet as they travel to France to have breakfast and catch up on a bit of shopping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 05:31 AM |
| – | Being an attractive woman in the West is the highest level of privilege a person can ever have.Hmmm, are you suggesting that being an attractive woman is a higher level of privilege than being born into a very high status family with massive generational wealth? Because you don’t have to make money (on Twitch, Instagram, or other platforms) or you can - whatever. You don’t need anyone to financially support you. Your family’s high status would very probably get you invited to events in locations by default that most people don’t even know take place, you are highly likely to to be able to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Is it fair to assume that being a pushy asshole works enough of the time for some men to continue behaving that way?So what you are saying is that the interaction between nature and nurture is complicated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 04:51 AM |
| – | ✨️🧚🏻♀️Why are lads personally offended over what a lady does with her body?🧚🏻♀️✨️Yes, I think to a certain degree you are right. It’s a social control mechanism. One being watered down but still present. However there was is also option which is primarily to control men’s behaviour as well. Which of course was/is also hanging around and done via religion and also negative social shaming - older terms like that is suggestive that a man is controlled by his sex drive, lacking self control, lacking character, that kind of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 04:02 AM |
| – | ✨️🧚🏻♀️Why are lads personally offended over what a lady does with her body?🧚🏻♀️✨️Sure, but I think what OP is asking is why is there a need for people to then socially label that individual they had sex with negatively- at least that’s what I got from a first reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 02:03 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.I wish you the best of luck and hope you are successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 11:35 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.Indeed! I can relate. There is high, very high, expectation that one does not marry someone for whom that kind of thing is necessary (for both men and women). Once one marries however then you respect your partner and difficulties are worked out with grace, good manners and very carefully as is expected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 11:30 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.I edited my comment for being too vague. Sorry, it was really a thought bubble but I was interested in your response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 11:22 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.Oh no sorry! I just wondered if in your particular upbringing there was a different concept of infidelity that influenced your argument and somehow reduced your perception of the importance of trust and respect. I thought about this for myself and concluded that my father would consider it a deep disrespect if it was groundless and based around paternity (obviously DNA test for medical reasons is different) and would not tolerate the disrespect towards his wife, even though she is my mother. My … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 11:11 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.Just a little curious OP: Do you think your father or mother would be insulted if you called a meeting and informed that you wanted medical criteria DNA sampling done to confirm your paternity based on no evidence? Would you do it? Would you gather your siblings together and make a similar request? Do you think Mom would connect the dots are realise you are accusing her of infidelity without cause? Or do you feel your father would see it as a direct insult to his wife? What about Grandma and Gra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 10:57 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.I absolutely agree with you about making the request prior to pregnancy. This is the key to it if you absolutely have to go this way. The fall out is unavoidable simply because of point A. You can try and negotiate, but the offence is probably too high. It’s a hard spin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 10:39 AM |
| – | CMV. The social stigma of getting a paternity test should not exist.Ok, but this is a reddit post. It won’t play out like that in real life. It will go something like this instead: “Honey, I would like to get a paternity test for our child”. “You think I had an affair? That I slept with someone else? That this child is not yours?!” And that’s it, the end of the pitch because she is right. There is no way to dodge the fact that the only way that child is not his is if another man’s sperm traveled up and fertilised her egg. There is no where in this conversation f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 10:24 AM |
| 6 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?If by “settle” you mean chose a life partner that has similar values, goals, ambitions, and vision for what a meaningful life would entail, then no. If you can offer care, support, love, comfort, trust, resilience through a possible 60/70 years then go for it. If you mean “settle” with someone you don’t really want a to share your life with, that’s going to be a bit hard to maintain. Marriage is kind of in your face 24/7. To make it worse, life has a nasty habit of throwing curve balls at you. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 09:33 AM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?So if she dates one exclusively and then they marry, does he get upgraded to a Chad? Is that how it works? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?Ahh sorry. I get confused, I thought only Chad got the non commit lifestyle, so when OP noted the amount of men getting that I assumed they were all Chads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:05 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittSo, you’re saying I actually had a chance with Brad Pitt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?No, sorry, I was vague. I mean that it appears that OP’s experience is that these women are taking home whoever they like, indeed multiple men at a time, even multiple times per week! The choice alone suggests that there is Chads in there somewhere amongst the 3-5 regular sexual partners and the multiple weekly club hook ups? Personally I’m guessing OP is trying to write a B grade late night movie, but let’s pretend this is his reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Committed relationship with a man is a net loss for most women?I doubt it. From what OP is describing they are drowning in Chad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:42 PM |
| – | Women, self-reflection, and accountabilityDude, it’s ok, just carry on. You appear puzzled and a bit defensive about my point and that’s fair. I get a bit up in arms when I read a post like this from someone in their 30’s, as I cant help but expect bit more of a nod to the nuances and complexities when the post is making reference to half the population. Anyway, forget I said anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:09 AM |
| – | Women, self-reflection, and accountabilityI’m not doing whatever you are referring to here Yes you are. You are discussing women as a gender (half the population of the damn planet) in terms of their capacity to self reflect and take accountability based on your limited experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:33 AM |
| – | Women, self-reflection, and accountabilityPerhaps at 30 years of age it might be time to see the nuances and complexity when drawing conclusions about a large group of people; and perhaps the absurdity about assigning “learnings” of personal experiences so widely and absolutely as well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Looking for your opinions or comments on a poll I conducted at a university. Could you share your honest thoughts?Oh yep, indeed. I am older so I have probably been exposed to more single income families than you. But there is no point denying that the economy is geared towards dual income now. Single income families would struggle to get over the first hurdle of purchasing property (investment) in high cost of living area (lifestyle goal) close to a good school (lifestyle choice/goal/investment). And even when the economy was more geared towards single income families, a dual income high earning couple (su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Looking for your opinions or comments on a poll I conducted at a university. Could you share your honest thoughts?They are young and haven’t met the reality of single handedly meeting the financial needs for dependents across a life span yet. Illness, recession, retrenchment, unemployment, unexpected financial challenges, financing retirement for around 20 years post income, mortgages/rent, insurances - you know, life stuff. They will get it. Those school meet ups will drive home the point. They will meet up with class mates in block time units (5,10,15,20 years) and be able to compare the difference betwee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:39 AM |
| – | Why do science says that married men live longer when marriages are stressful and full of hassles?Bingo! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:25 AM |
| 10 | Switching around "Commitment" for "Sex" may allow more empathy between the sexes?She was raised in a society, she absolutely knew she shouldn’t j7mp to bed with strangers, she absolutely knew that virginity is valuable No one cares. Ok, if I’m to be more accurate, a small section of the population still care. But to a huge degree, unless it falls outside the current social norm, no one cares. And the current social norm is pretty damn broad. Even the general folk that were raised under more conservative values don’t care that much any more. Grandma is attending baby showers … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Men do not have high beauty standardsYes, I consider that “working itself out”. What’s the issue? So you move into young adulthood, establish yourself, decide if you want the wife/kids/white picket fence thing, if so look around and try your best to find someone to marry. It’s the same as it ever was? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 11:37 PM |
| 2 | How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women?Perhaps? I’m assuming it’s based on social interests and social circle? I’m always in awe at the amount of events that guys playing and watching sport go to? In fact it can get a bit out of hand I believe. By the time you train, then play your own game, and watch various matches, then follow on an international circuit it gets a bit much. Those into music same thing. , Music practice, personal group, music club events, seeing bands play. Art, photography, theatre, robotics, fitness, and so on. O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:17 AM |
| – | CMV-Men are more emotionally monogamous and attached than womenOnce again, I may be cynical but I’m not seeing anything very new. Your first paragraph seems pretty familiar - just flip the genders and the guy that every girl wants has the same experience. Your second paragraph also feels pretty familiar - when an attractive guy wants to settle down I have no doubt he is thinking about what would be a suitable match. The majority of men and women I believe want to “fall in love” to establish monogamy. I have absolutely no doubt however that some men just wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Population collapse and datingWhat’s wrong? You want kids right? Lives births? We are in crisis yes? And live births are apparently needed. So, what’s your issue with maximising the offspring that we have? Is there a problem with supporting all the women in the community that are apparently actually wishing to have children currently? Aren’t they actually gold right now? Some are actually willing to reproduce above replacement rate with barely any support at all! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:11 AM |
| – | CMV-Men are more emotionally monogamous and attached than womenGirls don’t want monogamy these days, just know that they have to have to do it eventually to get what they want from a man. I don’t necessarily disagree with you, I’m just a bit sad that of the flavour you put on your argument because I think it obscures a really valid point. I however don’t think gender roles have flipped, I think gender patterns (at least for dating) defaulted to a more traditionally male version. I think this pattern/system/social norm is well known, established and understo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:38 PM |
| 20 | How are average looking men in this day and age supposed to meet women?I have absolutely no proof, but yes my general view of what I am seeing regarding young people fits with what you are saying. Young men increasingly tend to spend more time online engaged with products that create an artificial set of tasks, goals, achievements- in other words computer games. I’m also a bit concerned that they seem to be increasingly “jumping online” to “hang out with their friends” and socialise. I’m not saying that online friends are not friendships, but I am absolutely saying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:33 PM |
| 8 | Population collapse and datingOk. So you want babies? How badly? Badly enough to stand in awe and tip your hat to that single mom with 4 babies to four different fathers? Badly enough to proudly say “Thank you for your service to reduce the population collapse!” Badly enough to pressure the shit out of the government to ensure she and her 4 children have access to all of the resources available to ensure they have excellent food, shelter, education, healthcare and resources to ensure they meet all of their milestones and max… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:35 AM |
| 7 | If paternity tests were to become mandatory, we would also need a database with every man's DNA to compare them to.Can you imagine the outrage across the population upon the announcement that it is now a requirement by law that all men submit both themselves and their children to DNA testing? There is a reason these protections are in place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:37 AM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseDoes it matter? Look, I don’t mean to be rude but poor people have always “run” things for richer more powerful people. It’s not a “win” or an indication of “who runs society”. Poorer people work the fields so rich people can eat, poorer people keep the electricity on so rich people can work in glass offices with air conditioning, poorer people keep the water on so richer people can have a shower in the house they own rather than rent. The issue is that poorer people have no choice because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 10:49 PM |
| – | The reason why society shuns age gap dating is because the younger a girl is, the more shes covetedUntil age becomes a neutral factor to parents, and other important cornerstone social structures (like the workplace) then it will remain shunned. In other words, until the general population feels comfortable with their 18 year old daughter bringing a much older man home for dinner (and accepting of the inherent issues with age gap relationships) then you will have an issue. Until an older man can take an 18 year old girl to the office Christmas party without getting side eye and judgement from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Society is finished, terminal stageIs that what all your reading on history taught you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 10:47 PM |
| 4 | Society is finished, terminal stageand modern medicine is only needed because of our shitty diets. Ok, then either you have a very unusual position on modern medicine or you absolutely understand that this comment is nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 10:00 PM |
| 3 | How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success?Ahh ok, I got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 04:09 AM |
| 4 | How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success?Oh, that’s interesting. Are you talking about arranged marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 04:04 AM |
| 4 | I think that breadwinner women should not be shocked at their lackluster marriages.Well, I’m not overly surprised. Mostly because I feel that as least some of the men that hold this opinion don’t have a great deal of experience of having to meet their economic responsibilities consistently. By consistently I don’t even mean living independently for a few years in your early 20’s with limited financial responsibilities. I mean consistently in managing the more complex financial responsibilities associated with dependents. They are not yet exposed enough to financial reality to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Predictions for how the dating market will look 100yrs from now?Diversity. I believe we will get use to and settle on a level of acceptance and diversity that we can’t even imagine. As cultures continue to mix with immigration, and increasingly people with different identities continue to pair up, diverse family structures will become the new norm. As children are raised in diverse households new “norms” will be created and they will be further exposed to others through socialisation. Resilience and flexibility will be a key milestone to navigating the socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/24 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Predictions for how the dating market will look 100yrs from now?Exactly. The current global economy is inherently conflictual for highly traditional societies. As for Saudi Arabia I would tend to argue it is rapid change, at least on a cultural change timeline. https://agsiw.org/saudi-women-in-the-workforce/ Vision 2030 is a fascinating read: https://www.vision2030.gov.sa/en/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 11:33 PM |
| – | The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this?Ok, so why did you state men do not need women’s labor in the same way that women need men’s labour? I’m really just curious in general as it seems to be a bit of a reoccurring theme that pops up every now and then. Sometimes it can be taken a bit to extremes (not that I’m saying you did). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying societyDo you feel there is room to organise the nuclear unit under different gender norms? I mean obviously across history there has been different economic pressures within society, and between classes, and if the nuclear family has been a constant, there must be diversity in how the nuclear family has responded. It seems logically it is quite flexible. So, in today’s global economy, do you think there is gender norms that could provide a stable model forward for a nuclear family? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 11:33 PM |
| – | The gender divide has become undeniable , can anything be done to solve this?Well, I know it’s not specifically what you are talking about, but this concept needs one step further back in the conceptual thought chain to be complete and logically sound. Ultimately, men do need women’s labor specifically because women make power plant technicians, sewage workers, truckers and sailors. I’m not even talking about the raw ingredients of life (sperm, eggs) I’m talking about the building process (gestation). It takes 9 months (around about) per person walking on the planet. It’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 10:24 PM |
| 2 | Have tradcons taken over the redpill?Ok, but basically it is probably more sensible and acceptable to have one vote per person above an adult age because everyone is granted adult rights within the kind is society we are discussing. As for women voting your argument is a bit silly. It’s a bit hard to argue generally when realistically it’s probable that it’s a woman you will be begging for help when your kid turns up at the hospital requiring medical care. Just as most people won’t blink to interview for a job, promotion, internshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Men having lower standards of cleanliness is not a "flaw"Hmm, no idea then. I live in a very hot climate and feel the need to wash the sheets every week and shower multiple times per day. I guess it’s just a preference then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Have tradcons taken over the redpill?You can complain about voting by gender lines all you like but unfortunately your argument will always be watered down with the obvious. There are people out there that believe the planet is flat that vote. There are people out there that can not read or write that vote. There are many people out there that don’t bother to listen to both sides of an argument that vote. Hell, in America there are heaps of people that don’t even understand the value of a vote so can’t be bothered to turn up and vo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Men having lower standards of cleanliness is not a "flaw"Perhaps you don’t live in a hot climate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 12:29 PM |
| 9 | Men having lower standards of cleanliness is not a "flaw"Ok, thats an easy to fix. All you need to do is lower the threshold of importance and skill set of home maintenance and its presentation among women. It’s kind of happening anyway. A lot of women appear to be much less “house proud” than their mothers. It’s become much more of a compatibility check now. Men that feel more comfortable in cleaner environments and are happy to maintain it will be more comfortable with a woman the feels the same - much less conflict that way. Men with a higher toler… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 02:51 AM |
| 3 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?You can sell a can of air. But yes, you can sell something if there is a buyer who perceives it has value. Overall though I do believe that those who perceive that virginity holds value has vastly reduced. Secondly I also believe that within that crowd, the priority of that perception of value (of virginity) has dropped further down the list when held compared against other perceptions of value such as health, education, social status and so on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 01:37 AM |
| -1 | Do virgin women still have "value" or is it something "from the past"?No, I really don’t think it has specific value any more. The reasons are culturally just so vast, but I think it can be summed up with the shift of how we (as a society) value women overall. The demands we place on women now are more connected directly to success in the economic world. It’s not surprising really if you think about who was actually perpetuating and reinforcing the idea of the value of virginity in the first place, then track their current influence in modern society. Most of thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you have an issue with men showing off their penises?I guess if it was the social norm I would get use to it? Currently it is not. Just like women going topless at the beach, at one time it was rare now I’m not overly surprised. There is also a TopFreedom movement so at some point I guess women will be legally free to be topless in locations that men are and we will all get use to that. But those hideous male push bike shorts? OMG, men that ride to work and walk in the office prior to getting changed. I wonder if they are aware of how much they di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/24 08:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most Red Pillers (TRP) are actually the most defeatist of all the "Pills"Relationships are a group project and always have been. Relationships are the basis of the social structure that you live in and there are many forms. Your personal relationship that you have formed that you mentioned below (congrats by the way!) is born out of the social structure and is part of it. Your children (if you have any) will exist in the social structure making friendships, attended school and forming relationships with teachers, and entering the workplace (which is a form of relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse?Is current income the entire picture though? Unless it is large enough to not only cover both current and future financial necessities and goals, but also bolster against recession, unemployment, injury, health emergencies and general life unpredictability for the entire family, it is still a bad bet. Then there is retirement and the cost of predictable decreasing health for a substantial period of time (20 years?) for both of you. Betting all of that on a single income is a risk. Do it if you w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/24 02:34 AM |
| – | Women wearing revealing clothingYep. I wait them out though. Nothing better than when the little horrors turn around and start wearing a “vintage” fashion or designs and cuts that have been recycled. Same with hair - the return of mullets have given me great joy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 01:27 AM |
| 3 | What advice would you give your daughters when it comes to dating, marriage and family formation?You have my sympathy. I don’t have “tips” as such, but I have generally found that tackling something like this works best when it is placed firmly in context so it doesn’t get any wriggle room later on. Understanding Tate requires a bit of knowledge on the marketable financial quality vs the real life reality. It requires understanding of general societal real life norms and values and their reinforcing factors (like the law), resilience, and an understanding of self vs the attraction of subscr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Women wearing revealing clothingI clicked the link and waited to be outraged at the “young folk outfit”. WTH dude. If you can’t drag at least a mild eyebrow raise out of an older person like me about clothing you know you are way off track. I tend to give at least a micro judgement snort once per shopping trip and I don’t discriminate between the sexes, so your efforts were very disappointing. BTW, what is with this new fangled nonsense of wearing PJ pants in public? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 06:11 AM |
| 1 | What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have?Of course. All peaks and troughs are specific to an individual and dependent on what you are measuring. You can probably graph yourself if you are willing to be reasonably honest. You will find obviously that different categories will rise/peak and fall at different times across your lifespan. You are always a work in progress. The categories are even obvious and are used across a number of professions to measure overall well-being. “The wall” concept is dependent on the idea that a specific cat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 11:23 PM |
| 1 | What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have?Correct | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Are women the primary motivator in most men's lives?The link you provided in your post goes into substantial detail around some of the primary factors involved with Hikikiomori. Did you read it? There is also a substantial reference list at the bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized?Hmmm, that’s hard if that is your absolute hard requirements. I doubt it will be met to a large degree though by either sex because of the complex undercurrents with non verbal communication. I admit to being vastly lacking in knowledge in this area though so I’m just guessing. It’s hard enough to educate the population to put language around a clear dialogue for consent to sexual contact let alone getting them to verbalise clear language around the possibility of interest. In saying that, I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 07:53 AM |
| 0 | Is approaching women something men are stopping to do? Is it also frowned upon? Also is male sexuality demonized?A lot of human communication is non verbal. I truly don’t believe the benchmark for “making it obvious” is only using words. I think you would be shocked, as would most people including me, at how much they communicate using body language and how subtle it actually is. Micro expressions for instance are fascinating. Some authors go so far as to say non verbal communication can represent as much as two thirds of all communication. It’s kind of stunning how much our brains and body are broadcastin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/24 05:21 AM |
| 2 | “Women/men aren’t a monolith”You are right to point that out, apologies. I meant “significant” in terms of “it’s clear” that this is a factor, rather than odd abnormality that can be discounted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 11:25 PM |
| 2 | “Women/men aren’t a monolith”Neat, if you truly believe you just solved the very difficult “Nature vs Nurture” argument go publish an academic paper. I will look forward to seeing your accolades in the media. Obviously you come down firmly on the side of nature, many disagree with you. I believe that personality/cognitive/behavioural/societal and cultural are hugely impactful. You can be gifted with raw material, but it can be beaten into many different shapes with humans in terms of outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 10:29 PM |
| 4 | “Women/men aren’t a monolith”Penicillin is an excellent example because it is clear that a significant number of the population are allergic to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 09:55 PM |
| – | One primary detriment of Blue-Pilled thinking is the glossing over of basic human nature.They look remarkably like him in his childhood pics? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F302937512422263636%2F&psig=AOvVaw2Bfp5-Aa3JkRseA41tSMJY&ust=1705749053907000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCPiij8ao6YMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAo I don’t know what you are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 11:14 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?What does she say it is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 04:26 AM |
| 2 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."And heaps of people will grow older with progeny and be lonely, unhappy, and socially isolated. Sick, poor, unfulfilled, burnt all their relationships, wishing for the path not taken, jealous, guilty, bitter. A life well lived requires you to make the best of what you have and to value it wisely. It’s not about requiring a complete set of something to have a good life. There are miserable married people, rich people, smart people, people with children, just as there are happy people. The same is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 09:48 PM |
| 23 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."When are we talking in terms of “Grandfathers?” The Boomers divorce. In fact no one divorces quite like the Boomers, they are masters at it: Even as the Baby Boomers continue to age, they divorce more than any other age group. Between 1990 and 2012, the divorce rate for 55 to 64-year-olds more than doubled. For the 65-and-older crowd, that number more than tripled. https://www.goldbergjones-or.com/divorce/divorce-by-generation/ So I guess you are talking about people born the GI generation or th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 12:01 PM |
| 3 | If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support?Can you even imagine the cost of a specialist medical device that you need access to and monitoring for an entire period of nine months? That’s per child…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 06:33 AM |
| 3 | Why do Red Pillers find it so hard to admit that men can be horrible people?it just shows that the person is not engaged in good faith, honest debate and that they are incredibly biased That is a lot of the communication in this space though. I have a general acceptance that this is what I’m going to get when I choose to read material here. What bothers me more is when people have gone down the rabbit hole to such a degree that it warps their arguments to the point that it obscures their entire personal point. I do believe there was something he wanted to say but it got… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Why do Red Pillers find it so hard to admit that men can be horrible people?I was having trouble working that out as well. I think the problem is because he has suggested that the military, legal and police are to deal with men specifically it leaves you casting around your brain looking for what else there is in an effort to understand his argument. Of course if you shift everything back in context, those societal structures are placed to deal with people in general and have a diverse capacity, it leaves you even more confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Why are we glorifying doing normal adult thingsI agree but I would like to comment on your last paragraph because it is there that I believe the problem sits. I do believe people communicate around this issue. In fact I tend to think that due to the nature and number of the chore tasks involved in home based tasks, that communication becomes so frequent it becomes relentless and itself can turn into a secondary problem. Chores are daily, some chores like meals and clean up is multiple times daily. There is multiple times per day where the ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Women tell men how to be attractive not sexually attractive and men struggle because of itif you want to know how to catch fish, get advice from a successful fisherman, not from random fish. I actually don’t mind this so long as it is also acknowledged what the fisherman is going to tell you. It’s when that is dismissed as well and the person blusters at the answer and continues to insist that there is some short cut based on random bullshit that it gets annoying. For instance, a fisherman will probably tell you to bait your hook with the specific preferred bait for the fish you want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 01:37 AM |
| 1 | The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sensebut there is an element of truth to the safety element. There is an element of truth to most things really I guess. It is also a truth that to assume the absolute true responsibility of physical safety over another person you have to be present or make alternative arrangements for their safety if you are not there - this is legally enforced with young children for instance as there is recognition that one individual is physically responsible for another. This is clearly not the case with your ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 11:37 PM |
| 6 | Slutshaming is objectively good (?)Yes, I agree. It’s quite effective as well as can been seen with the term “bitch”, “queer”, “gay” and yes to a certain degree “slut”. As far as I can see Generation Z has been inoculated against some historically negative shaming tactics. Basically I believe it starts a bit earlier than that though, I think there is a general reduction in concern at a family / societal level around female sexuality (all sexuality really) that reduces the impact of shaming tactics in this area overall. Even when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/24 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.Yes, apparently she was besotted, but hey she was 19! There is some argument to be said that Charles actually married up in terms of bloodlines. The Windsors are of German descent, whereas the Spencer’s are high status British reaching back to the 16th century. Her bloodlines are truly powerhouse stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/24 12:16 AM |
| 0 | Debate : People dont understand that Money and status makes you GENUINELY more sexually attractive as a Man.Exactly. Your example is great to highlight the effects of status. Status is powerful whether you are male or female. King Charles originally married a 19 year old Spencer. The Spencer family being massively high status as a lineage. They didn’t marry a Windsor off to any one. She is the daughter of the Earl of Spencer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Why push for a relationship, marriage and even kids when you are fundamentally unable to trust your partner?The Paternity issue will never really be resolved because it’s one of those things where there is counter balance arguments on both sides and they are both very valid and have very real implications for the relationship. Receiving a Paternity test per child seems like a simple way of clearing away a complicated problem. Dating and marrying someone who deems you worthy of trust seems like an obvious thing. If you truly believe in one or other of those points, the key is to find a partner who will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 10:50 PM |
| 10 | "I don't want to do these things with you" and insecurityIMO this is the kind of view you get from a person who is extremely limited in how they live. Most general run of the mill people are willing to try a variety of life experiences - some they will like, some they won’t and that is ok for them. They are resilient enough to accept that. Those people try to live a broad life, they are not fragile enough to only try things they “might” like, they are solid enough to try things they “might not” like and perhaps learn that something is “ok” or “great” … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/24 12:31 AM |
| 15 | "I don't want to do these things with you" and insecurityYep, Just cause you wrote a cheque in the times of youthful indiscretion, does not mean you keep signing on the bottom line forever. You are supposed to learn at least a little. Imagine: Officer please don’t charge me! You see I had no choice. In the Summer of 2018 I had sex with Mary-Lou Bunting in the back seat of my car in this very park after the school fair. My girlfriend now insists that I pony up with the goods as it makes her feel insecure. I’m saving my relationship Officer! Tell it to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 10:51 PM |
| 11 | "I don't want to do these things with you" and insecurityI read the post, there is stuff people did for others in the past but won’t do now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 10:18 PM |
| 28 | "I don't want to do these things with you" and insecurityThere will always be stuff that people do when they are younger that they won’t do when they are a bit older for whatever reason for both sexes. Don’t pretend it’s just women. There is more than one guy who got his kit off in weird places for some girl and now doesn’t want to do that again due to with the legal ramifications of it now if caught, or the hit to the career. There is also more than one guy out there that engaged in “butt stuff” with both men and women, or group sex, or did stuff on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 10:06 PM |
| 4 | Do you that marriage is largely obsolete today now that social norms have been largely relaxed?You need to go back and re-read what he/she wrote once again, particularly the second paragraph. It’s not necessarily “their own wealth and property” but the transfer of wealth and property via blood lines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseI don’t have issue with people giving consideration to world population statistics, there is a huge amount of literature, research, projections, including action plans currently readily available, but it’s also discussed widely in the media from reliable sources. The United Nations has a great deal of stuff easily accessible and they have been monitoring and reporting for years and they are not alone. Not that I see the word “extinction” noted a lot though, but hey I might have missed it and I’m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 11:25 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseOk, and how does that relate to extinct exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 10:54 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseExtinct? Don’t be absurd. Have you even had a glance at the projected world population statistics - 10.4 billion in the mid-2080s! Estimated peak in 2086. https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/population#:~:text=The%20world%20population%20is%20projected,surrounding%20these%20latest%20population%20projections. If you have concerns that the human race is going to go “extinct” in the near future, I would like to gently suggest you give consideration to other causes first. We are not going to hit the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 08:47 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseI’d say humanity ever reaching 10 billion is a very generous projection Ok, I love your confidence, but I’m pretty comfortable with sticking with the projection of the UN at this time as they have been tracking on a global scale for some time pretty rigorously. No offence intended. It seems we are in agreement that the human population is continuing to increase for sometime calculated in terms of billions. There is no “shortage”. There is a massive amount of information available about sustainab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 05:58 AM |
| 3 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseHey, way to cherry pick! Ummm did you happen to note the population at 2050 (9.7 billion!) and a peak at 2080 (10.4 billion)? Not exactly the endangered list is it? Not really a situation of “Yikes! Let’s all emergency have 3 kids!”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 03:46 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding the Coming Demographic CollapseGlobal birth rates so far and so fast that if the numbers hold up, the world will be facing a major demographic collapse later this century. Why do these discussions never start with the very commonly sited population stats from the United Nations. You know, the people who have been tracking world population stats and noting concerns for some time. They even state recommendations for some of the noted concerns. The world’s population is more than three times larger than it was in the mid-twentie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 12:17 AM |
| 7 | Is the attention women receive from men the equivalent of being bombarded with food choices?So what’s the solution? You do what most people do. You eat the majority of your diet at restaurants that serve familiar food that you know won’t make you sick. Restaurants that are located in your socioeconomic area, that serve other people your own age, the chefs went to similar schools as you, the same church, your parents eat there and are quite complimentary of the quality! Every now and then you may choose to go out to a different area and try a different food for a change. Most people who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 11:00 PM |
| 29 | One sided open relationshipsI think you can quote Fresh and Fit to your divorce lawyer, it might lift the mood and will at least give them something to talk about in the tea room over lunch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/23 12:59 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenAnd? There is a smudge of truth there but it is really not relevant to my statement, Your last line is just silly. There are absolutely young men that parents would be super happy with. We are talking about real life right? Not in bizarre online world? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 05:06 AM |
| 1 | International dating is generally good for men and a life changing positive event for the women they marry. Scholarly research - mostly by feminists -has repeatedly proved this. Lonely guys should consider it - particularly otherwise successful guys who are a bit socially awkward or shy with women.You used exactly 5 words as advice to relocating to another country, possibly a 3rd world country for life? To navigate a completely different legal system? Different cultures? Raise your children possibly in a 3rd world country? Has it occurred to you that the very qualities that make you stand out and be a bit more attractive to attract a wife, might also be the very qualities that make you stand out to be targeted a wide variety of people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 01:56 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenAnd women in their 20’s don’t have the same options as woman in their 30’s. That very handsome, clever financial accountant who studied and travelled in his 20’s will highly probably settle down with some very close in age, socioeconomic status, education, and family background. In fact if he does so, his marriage has a significantly higher chance of success according to some stats I have seen here. As much as it the red pill fantasy that younger women will “learn” to look at an earlier age for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:55 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenOk, what about older men (fathers) who very unhappy about older men targeting their daughters? Are they wrong as well? Where are all the fathers that are over joyed because their 19 year old daughter is dating a 50 year old? Ok, 40 year old? Hang on, 30 year old? There is no one, and I mean not a single parent out there that I know who would not have an “oh crap” moment if their young daughter phoned and said they were bringing an old guy home for Christmas this year. Look, even in the “good old… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 12:03 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenso? Some women are not happy with their options in their 20s. Are you by any chance under the assumption you have a solution that produce happiness for everyone? Nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 11:50 PM |
| 4 | What public figure would you choose to be a role model for the opposite sex?Yikes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 11:16 PM |
| 2 | What public figure would you choose to be a role model for the opposite sex?let me try that Edit: Oh thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 11:14 PM |
| 4 | RedPillers: if women are basically children, why do you not look after them like they’re children?Well I would imagine that it’s at least partially because this argument doesn’t transfer well into actual society or day to day life. If a man that subscribes to “The Red Pill” theory (and seemingly writes the beliefs you describe online) needs a doctor in ER he probably won’t wait an additional 4 hours specifically to see a male doctor or only accept a male surgeon when he is in need of medical care at that moment. In fact, day to day for probably the majority of white collar services most of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 11:23 AM |
| – | How do men and women do these chores?Well, once again I’m a bit yes and no :) The issue for me here is two fold. Firstly, “and if she is unsatisfied with the middle ground then she is one responsible for keeping things cleaner than the middle ground” It’s not your logic that is necessarily wrong, it’s the nature of the task that makes it a bit implausible. The problem with domestic tasks is the relentless nature of them and the longevity. If the gap is too large and the scaffolding between the middle ground and her level of comfort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 04:06 AM |
| 2 | Why are redpillers sore about marriage?Marriage is a legal contract yes. Generally financially what is made during the marriage is split as its joint assets - that’s the deal as you went and got yourself “joined”. You know why it was set up like that, it’s nonsense to say you don’t. You know what’s really strange? It’s now that there is a ruckus about the set up. The point in history where women are starting to out earn men is the very point where there is a massive argument about change and a desire for it to be “you leave with what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 12:11 AM |
| – | How do men and women do these chores?Probably. But I think there is a weird twist in there somewhere that is not often acknowledged and it’s in here somewhere: “As such women have a far higher standard of cleanliness than men” I think day to day yes, at least it could be tolerance rather than standard. But it does get warped a bit when outside factors comes into play and then the whole thing seems (at least for some) to revert back to “socially acceptable standards” immediately which for the most part seem to more align with women’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Question for women: What profession, if any, do you find most attractive in a man?True. It’s hell on family life. So is being a baker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 09:57 PM |
| – | Q4W: Hinting vs. TellingThanks for the reply! I’m not at all surprised that you report thriving at work. I know several people with ADHD in the workplace who seem to manage extremely well across a range of tasks so I have always found it interesting to read online (you know, like the relationship forums) that they struggle at home with domestic duties. There tends to be stuff like “My husband leaves 95% of the house work to me even though I work full time. He says his ADHD makes it hard and it is so much easier for me.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?“Even if you are really outgoing and going out a lot the chances that you’ll meet someone with a strong mutual sexual attraction, emotional and moral compatibility and whose life journey dovetails with your (who is single and ready to mingle) seems really slim”. Seems a big deal when you put it like that, but perhaps consider it a different way. As a society we have a lot of common social norms and values, we also have a lot of common beliefs and behaviours amongst socioeconomic groups, then a l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Hinting vs. TellingThis is so interesting. What about uniform tasks at work? It would be a very unusual job that doesn’t require at least some uniform tasks if only keeping records and submitting reports. Heck, even the tasks required to get to work on time is a uniform task. I have often wondered if it is the connection between the task and the consequence of not attending to the task that is the reinforcing factor. Obviously not submitting a report on time weekly at work in time for a meeting holds significantly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 12:47 AM |
| 2 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Ahhh, ok. The old “innocent” factor. Sorry, sometimes I forget where I am posting. My mistake. That’s the problem when you duck in an out of various forums. Carry on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:29 AM |
| 2 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?Look fair statement regarding the people you know but heck, there is a whole world out there and perhaps the women you know are not as assessable on the net. Perhaps they don’t hold jobs that have a requirement of media exposure? Or media components of any kind? Or perhaps just won an award of some kind that was reported on? I stand by my comment, I don’t think you can cast allegations of that kind widely on the entire group of women who have perhaps received more pic than “not many”. It actuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 02:45 AM |
| 1 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?I really think your comment is a bit unfair. Any young (or older!) woman who has been online has probably seen the full range - from right across the world. Apparently women are even getting dick pics sent to their LinkedIn account? That rubbish is chronic now. If men want less focus in the penis, perhaps they could stop saturating the online world with images of size, colour and displayed in a range of locations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 10:52 PM |
| -1 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsInteresting. I took it as her saying that the woman has been too picky for years and then finally choosing an option that had been available for a while. The “good” bit being on a scale of available options - HR guy being good —-> Hedge fund being “dream ideal”. I did re-read to make sure I didn’t miss it, there wasn’t any mention of “no good man” there? There was also I believe a gentle implication of perhaps “wasting time” in there however it isn’t said directly. Personally as I noted above, I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 04:18 AM |
| -2 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsSure, but you are going to be able to say that for pretty much anything. Some people could also say “nah. Imma going to go wild and apply for a nursing job”, or “nah. Imma going to apply for nothing and volunteer with Doctors Without Borders instead”. As for the complaining? People will complain that their brand of milk is not in the supermarket this week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 04:06 AM |
| 1 | What is a the bitter truth for men about dating over 30Yep. Simple, easy to understand, and other than the odd outliers out there that people love to highlight, very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsYes, she probably wasn’t. And then she dealt with it. In all honesty I wish people in general would take that pathway more often. It’s a good thing to deal with your shit, I’m not sure why there isn’t more pats on the back for doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 12:31 AM |
| 5 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsAhhh! Could have, would have, should have! But who knows? Maybe at a different time she may not have been the Global head of HR but a sacked employee, maybe she might not have done something that is critical to the current success of her marriage? There is no reason to believe those years were not important to where she currently is now. You can’t just pick out a success in your life and dismiss the previous stuff that got you there. Successes you have now sit on a platform of other stuff. Edit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 11:44 PM |
| 0 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsWell that’s the thing. We can’t really ask her whether she is relatively satisfied within her marriage nor him. Both may be quite happy. She and he both made a choice, whether you personally think it’s wrong or right is kinda irrelevant. Personally I’m a bit confused about arranged marriages, but hey it seems to work for some. It would be pretty ignorant for me to deny that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 11:36 PM |
| 4 | What is a the bitter truth for men about dating over 30I actually agree with LadyLazarus, I think there is a point there. It doesn’t have to be to the Rockefeller extreme to be a useful concept. It doesn’t even have to be about money, it can be simply be how much do you pine about other stuff that people have and do you allow it to influence your life / turn you bitter to this degree? Because there is different starting platforms for most things: health, genetics, finances, nepotism, intelligence, looks, family background, birth location, personal o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsSelfish how? He has been flirting for years. He could have flirted with someone else or moved on. Or are you suggesting she should have married him years ago? Or perhaps she shouldn’t have married him at all and leave him flirting for another 5 years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 10:55 PM |
| 11 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsIt appears she took the job in HR though? And had 3 kids as well and remains working in HR? So it kinda all worked out? The trend seems to be heading this way, marrying later, so it seems like most people end up working for HR in the end. The guy involved seemed to be pretty determined for that particular girl as he didn’t manage to find anyone else over the years either, particularly not an assets manager or another potential HR employee. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Woman who complain about ot being able to find a "good man" just have very high standardsMorgan Stanley (the people who did the research/forecast you are referring to) seems to say quite a bit about what women are doing during those years. It gives no mention of “They aren’t ’choosing’ to stay single, they are staying ‘single’ because men they find attractive aren’t choosing THEM”. https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy It also says quite a bit about the impact. It’s interesting, you should give it a read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 10:33 PM |
| 3 | Men raised by single mothers are the worst kinds of men to datePeople who grew up with unhealthy relationship patterns learn unhealthy relationship patterns - checks out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Dating Apps Are a disaster for RelationshipSeems to work for some. I read something like 30% of new relationships start online, that doesn’t sound disastrous. It just adds an option, it doesn’t have to be the solution for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are far more similar than they want to admit.Ok, so basically your whole argument is “Yes they do want to settle down, trust me bro”. You will not even consider some basic measurable indicators, which is what I was looking at, something tangible that could even suggest a hint of what you are saying is correct. Some indications that young people were indeed thinking long term at that stage of life in regard to their relationships. So there we are, your argument heading towards typing in capital letters, with no tangible evidence other than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are far more similar than they want to admit.“You can not ever market something to that do not want or need something” Well, that was kinda my point! You know we are having a discussion because you were at least suggesting that young men do want to settle down right? My overall point, is in the section of the population of young men that are currently dating, there is little indications out there that they are “looking to settle down”. Young men, even in younger first relationships, are not the target of long term relationship stuff….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 02:49 PM |
| 3 | Men and women are far more similar than they want to admit.Ok, but is there a general consensus that a significant percentage of young men who are in relationships are proposing and being declined? As a trend? I haven’t heard of even one in my social network. People tend to get engaged mid-late 20’s or early 30’s. It’s not generally reported in the literature or newspaper either as a social trend. I don’t even see marketing aimed at young men for engagement rings (it seems aimed at mid to late 20’s). There doesn’t even seem to be marketing for engagemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Men and women are far more similar than they want to admit.Idk, it seems a bit silly to send the percentage of the population capable of making new humans to the front line unnecessarily when you are currently undertaking loss of life due to war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Men and women are far more similar than they want to admit.Well I can’t “prove” it, but one social ritual that seems to be holding is that men still undertake the responsibility for the proposal of marriage. It also seems that it is still deemed appropriate to propose when a bit older and established. I think it’s fair to assume that if younger men wanted to settle down early, then there would be some trend towards proposing earlier and engagement periods lengthening or them marrying earlier and bucking the trend of waiting until they established themse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 09:40 AM |
| 1 | Do most girls actually flirt/sex/hookup with fboys while simultaneously developing connections with good genuine guys on the side?I wasn’t suggesting you were. I was commenting on your “problem” as such and pretty much agreeing with you, other than to recommend you note the pattern and outcome (rethink). I then made a small comment in regard to a possible way to tackle the “problem” but acknowledged that yes, it’s probably heading in a direction you don’t want to go. Did I accidentally kick off a defensive response? Apologies if I did…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Do most girls actually flirt/sex/hookup with fboys while simultaneously developing connections with good genuine guys on the side?Is it really a “problem” if that is the nature of what you are offering? Isn’t that a bit like saying “the problem with dogs is that they have four legs?” I guess you are right though, there is going to be positives and negatives with every type of relationship. If the outcome of this type of relationship is consistently not what you are finding a positive though is it perhaps worth a rethink? If you don’t like the outcome I guess you can change the type of relationship you are offering, but yes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | How would you want your son to be raised?Oh yeah, I agree. I actually wasn’t disagreeing with your first point necessarily, just kinda throwing in a statement towards the “I don’t know what genius came up with” bit. Single sex schools tend to be considered a high quality school where I am located with better facilities. They do throw some effort into co-ed activities as a kind of joint activities (dances, some sports days, art days) but it’s pretty minimal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 02:06 AM |
| 2 | How would you want your son to be raised?Oof your first point! Yep, it’s tricky. It appears that girls do notably better in single sex schools. Like stunningly better in challenging areas like advanced math and sciences, those STEM areas. The numbers are not small either, they are huge. There is very little to suggest that it has a negative effect emotionally or socially on girls either from what I have read, but I haven’t done a deep dive or anything. I think perhaps there is at least a premise to argue that it’s better to send your s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?Not really. I think we are envisioning this a bit differently. In my example, while the “leadership” will change per goal, big decisions are still under 2 leadership. For example, finances should be under a financial plan and budget which is decided by both leaders by consensus. Who actually fulfils the plan is determined by what is happening at the time. For instance, both leaders have a financial plan and budget which is decided 100% by both. The husband gets a work offer for a “stepping stone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 08:43 PM |
| 1 | What is the ideal? What works best in a relationship?What works best in a relationship? Find someone who is hell bent on supporting you to live and achieve your specific best version of life - every experience, every goal, every dream. Make sure that you love and care enough for that person to be able to offer the same. It will not work out perfectly and there will be rough times because that is the nature of life but you know that this one person is putting their weight and energy behind it as best they can. There is really no “pill” as such, jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 07:08 AM |
| 3 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?Yes, I believe so. Or at least subsections of authority, and the top of the hierarchy being negotiated out as per the situation. A lot of healthy, dynamic couples also tend to have some pretty big life goals split between them across the span of the marriage and there will be leadership assigned to those goals. At different times in the marriage there is going to be a dual effort being channeled into reaching a particular goal under that leadership and then when the goal changes the leadership w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 06:53 AM |
| 9 | CMV: buying expensive dinners for your gf/wife is equivalent to cooking for her if not betterNot really. The thing is, there is very little “blood and sweat” in going to work for most people. Generally it’s more like a shower and a clean shirt, a quiet tea room, 9.00am to 5pm, and hearing about how the accountant’s baby just took his first steps over lunch time. There is a variety of different jobs yes, but meh, some can be challenging but most people have calculated out the cost/benefits of going to work and are pretty pragmatic about it - some days suck, some days don’t and that’s lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 01:55 AM |
| – | To what extent did globalism create the modern dating world? And to what extent will de-globalization reverse it?Yes, manufacturing and factory work (repetitive tasks) are focused on speed and accuracy. The bench mark goals are not maximising around maximum male capabilities, but well beyond all human capabilities. Robotics continues to be viable way forward in manufacturing and factory work. It’s just pushing up against a technology and cost / benefit ratio. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 01:10 AM |
| 1 | What are successful autistic guys doing differently likely?Well if you are wondering that perhaps consider if you see those skills used more widely and if there is any skill based training. For instance, sales is a whole profession based on relationship engagement, building and maintenance. There is specific skills and strategies which are taught in sales. There are skill based programs, training courses and professional development courses. That’s an extreme example but a lot of professions also incorporate a part of their professional training in enga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Question for men who want "traditional" gender normsDo you want to home school your children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 10:37 PM |
| 1 | We don’t need Paternity Tests.Maybe I’m not understanding, but it seems you are saying you would like the default to be that women are universally to be given entire legal control of every child born in the US? Even if you are married? There is no assumption of paternity at all and the only cost of women gaining entire legal rights over every child born is the potential of losing a child support payment some time down the track? Opt in! How are you proposing that is actually achieved dude. You are going to tell your wife tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Do you think there are more men willing to be house husbands or more women will to have house husbands?It’s difficult to tell as people don’t calculate the cost until they are in that dynamic and the cost keeps increasing for years. Particularly if the “homemaker” / “breadwinner” chooses that role for life rather than just a few years. Even if it’s short term, the cost to career progression is huge and often the roles you choose to go back to are limited as you tend to pick up roles that allows you the flexibility to respond to your old home based responsibilities. Your partner has probably progr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 12:23 AM |
| 3 | Are assumptions around women based on lack of exposure?Have you considered your sample though? Firstly it is the location and time of where you are sampling, secondly within this location it is women who will be willing to speaking to man that will cold approach. They are not “random” as such, they are a subsection of the entire population of women that meet that particular criteria - women who attend that location at the time you are there and are willing to speak to a cold approach. That’s actually quite narrow. Add in additional variables such as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Women possess no empathy for men and should stop lying about it.Can I ask why you think you will get 100% of anything across a population? 100% of the population aren’t even consistent physically with two arms, legs, eyes, let alone mentally. But when you are talking about social experiences the diversity really hits, there is common experiences but it is really hard to find something that everyone does - it’s a weird world out there. And of course I’m aware that you well know that all women have not had sex by 30 years of age, you are just blustering. I’m n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 12:44 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why?Yeah I agree. Accept I guess I would call physical “masculinity traits” beautiful in their own right, there is a whole broad category of beauty as evidenced by the arts. So you don’t necessarily buy into the whole physical “Chad” thing? You think it is broader across and inclusive to masculinity traits including behavioural? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why?Well, that’s kind of what I was asking you. It appears that a lot of the conversations here is noting the “Chad” effect. That women are choosing at least for casual sex (?) beautiful traits in men. You can call them handsome if you like. Tall, thin, muscular, full head of hair, attractive face - you know, beautiful people. It’s noted the effect on OLD sites, women swiping using only visual information like pictures. I guess I was asking you if you think women are also primarily driven by beautif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 12:11 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why?Isn’t that one of the major complaints that women look primarily for beauty and refuse anything else? The “be attractive, don’t be unattractive” rule. All evidenced by who women swipe right on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsI wouldn’t. Not a chance in hell, at least not for the reasons you listed. Most people like beautiful things - including bodies, faces, voices, smells. Most people also don’t maintain or review the odometer on their body in the extreme nor care anymore so long as it’s kept in good running order. They know what’s generally socially acceptable and mostly are happy to sit somewhere in the mix of “most people”. Most people are also not really raised to be so risk adverse or shy that they would walk … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 11:35 PM |
| 5 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingTrue, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 12:23 AM |
| 6 | Birth rates are going to keep plummetingBut it appears it is not! Aren’t you even a little bit interested as to why? Step away from your desire to make a point for one second and just ponder. Yes, breathing is a necessity that is clear, if you override it you will go unconscious and your body will force it - such as when a child throws a specific kind of breath holding tantrum. But across cultures it appears that increasingly people (not just women) are able (as in they can actually choose) to not have children. In increasingly larger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:53 PM |
| 9 | Women are far more socially brutal than men are“I can tell you that in a professional workplace workplace I have never seen middle aged men act like that” I have. I have seen (and heard) behaviour towards young male apprentices that take my breath away. Right across the spectrum, verbally and physically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 10:26 PM |
| 3 | most women don't deserve chivalry from menIn terms of your list points 1 - 17, if your Mum, Dad or Boss would either ground you or fire you if you don’t display that behaviour - it’s more general behaviour and “deserves” has nothing to do with it. If you will get arrested for not conforming to the behaviour, such as consent, then it is widely expected and reinforced by law behaviour and “deserves” has nothing to do with it. The rest is by the wayside, I don’t care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 09:08 AM |
| 3 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderOk. I don’t really mind your ideas, but I suspect they won’t have the 1970’s effect that’s all. I’m not sure how it is where you live but we have de facto laws here, I think the period is 2 years (I would have to look it up, it’s not something I have personally encountered). People are just very aware and work around it, some get caught a bit by surprise but for the most part I have never heard anyone say “heck, now I have to stay”. For at fault divorce I imagine it would be pretty similar. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 01:25 AM |
| 3 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderOk. And once married, the only way have the marriage terminated would be through the fault divorce process? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 12:40 AM |
| 2 | Loneliness has nothing to do with genderSo you feel that removing no fault divorce today would be viable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 12:33 AM |
| 0 | Average and Just below average men are having a hard time because women are super pragmatic.Can I just check if that 30% includes men that are celibate by choice? Or celibate due to medical related reasons? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other?Hmmm I don’t really know. Perhaps it could be argued that in times of stress people double down on their core beliefs and perhaps even lose some flexibility in their thinking taking it to extremes; or even go the other direction and find themselves making choices they would never generally consider depending on circumstances? There would be a whole body of literature around this topic that I’m guessing is very complicated. I should perhaps leave it there. Interesting post though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other?Interesting comment, but I kind of disagree with you. Yes I agree war, such as a world wide conflict, breaks a lot of the norms that we take for granted in times of safety. Notable mentions being we don’t kill or starve children, people have a choice to not take risks to protect their lives, you have a right to keep property you “own”, the government generally won’t whisk your family from you to either fight or evacuate, you have the right to eat or drink enough to maintain life. What is notorio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 10:13 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleAll good. I was just trying to make sense of your comment so I could do you the courtesy of answering but could get it to make sense! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:57 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleDid you mean to reply to me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:51 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleNo, hang on, there is a point there. In fact there are two really interesting ones. First, it does appear that it is a “not all” problem. In fact someone above said that something like 39% of new relationships are now formed online? Some of them are almost certainly on apps. It is working for some, that seems reasonably clear. Secondly, “when nothing and no one measures up, it’s clearly the measuring tape that’s broken”. That is a wickedly good saying, I must have a look to see if it came from s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:18 AM |
| 2 | If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating?Amazon? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:52 PM |
| 4 | Young men (18-25) must bring something to the table, young women just bring themselves.Yes they do. They really do and they shouldn’t. They should accept that this is likely part of how they were raised. That they are probably very aware that they hold expectations of “how they were spoiled” and that they would like that to continue in their romantic relationship. If this is a problem that you encounter while dating then leave. You can see online exactly how successful all these “strategies” on “retraining” men on how they manage home maintenance tasks are for the most part and ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:35 PM |
| 3 | Young men (18-25) must bring something to the table, young women just bring themselves.Say the same about what to my sons? To acknowledge how someone is raised and how that will affect their behaviour? To acknowledge social norms and to have realistic expectations in accordance with those norms? To not date someone with the expectation that you will change them to fit your needs or that they will change to fit your needs? You can bet that I said exactly that multiple times! I also believe that there is very little point in a young woman dating an 18 year old misogynist young man a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 08:54 PM |
| 11 | Young men (18-25) must bring something to the table, young women just bring themselves.“Most young women in the US can cost through the first decade of their dating life with zero expectation to cook, clean, give massages, bear or raise children ect.” Sure ok. I kind of agree. Families are not raising their female children to be traditional wives anymore. That’s a fact. It would be pretty hard for me to make a list of differences between the family expectations on girls and boys as they are growing up these days - do well in school, be polite, be financially viable. There might be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 12:10 AM |
| 0 | A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era.Yes, I have found myself giving a bit of thought to your point. I really do wish that if this kind of discussion must take place it would at the very least exclude berating people from having sex. It seems entirely too successful and I think it would be astonishingly difficult to turn around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 11:24 PM |
| 1 | A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era.I don’t think so. I’m pretty engaged in the community and am quite well socially calibrated. My behaviour has not been reprimanded or “needing correction” by law or others. Morally I’m pretty much sitting in the middle. I’m older so I have seen some changes in what is generally considered correct behaviour or moral behaviour but have pretty much been able to keep up as I have raised young adults. Rather I think what is happening here is you just wrote quite a few paragraphs on why YOUR version o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 10:20 PM |
| 1 | A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era.The good side of changes? I was merely pointing out where our morality as a society seems to sit these days. You were pointing out that we should behave within it. I agreed. Now you seem to be saying “no, not like that! We need another morality as this is bad!” So which is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 10:01 PM |
| 3 | A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era.So I believe you are saying that generally behaviour should adhere to the overall morals of the society we live in? I don’t have issue with that. Morally the tolerance for sexual behaviour tends to agree that premarital sex is generally accepted with a focus on maintaining good sexual health. There does still seem to be some limitations for tolerance in terms of how one conducts oneself but other than that it’s fairly flexible. Increasingly there is an acceptance that diversity long term relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:51 PM |
| 0 | A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era.These things already have negative consequences. I have no positive feelings towards them at all and some of them have legal consequences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:41 PM |
| 2 | "Just work on yourself bro, your career and hobbies bro!" Mfs acting like being a wage slave and consooming products replaces actual bonds of love and companionship with other human beings“I realise, empathy, kindness, community, and the value of connections between human beings just….do not exist as part of the Western and especially American cultural universe”. It exists, but sometimes it’s a bit harder to access or to get people to contribute, a lot of times the difficulty is hand in hand. Isolated people are often not contributing to the community, they are not formulating relationships (whether it be romantic or not) or providing opportunities for those connections to be mad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 08:43 PM |
| 12 | What exactly does it mean to be a "modern day woman," and what kind of alternative women does the RP community prefer?I think you miss under stood me. I was adding my thoughts to your in regards to the benefits of equal relationships. Never mind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 11:23 AM |
| 22 | What exactly does it mean to be a "modern day woman," and what kind of alternative women does the RP community prefer?What do people think the role of the father was during this transition? Do they feel that the “male head of the household” did not recognise the benefit of having an educated daughter? Do they think that the head of the household had not noted that other more wealthy leaders in the community “old status families” were not educating their female offspring? Do they think that the “male head of the household” was not reprimanding their daughters for not getting good grades at school? Or directing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 11:17 AM |
| 9 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Ok, you just went back to square one again. I got your argument the first time. My point is for the most part no one really cares if women are younger anymore - late 20 to 30 is pretty normal. The general population are use to it. Women engaging in relationships prior to marrying is also something that no one blinks an eye at anymore other than a few pockets of the population. There is no “high risk game/bets”, there is no “pissing away all the chips”. Grandma doesn’t even care! She probably hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 07:17 AM |
| 7 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Depends entirely what section of the sexual market place you are wishing to access and what the minimum qualifying conditions are - but once the criteria is met (e.g. educated Upper Middle Class) generally no. The best strategy after that is to diversify across a range of attractive qualities, stabilise and maintain and then broaden your options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 06:35 AM |
| 7 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.Yes. But if you put a portion of your wealth on a higher risk options when you were young, invested a significant portion of your overall wealth on high return investments such as education and career and spread your investments across a range of options to manage your risk across your portfolio as you matured it wouldn’t be to unusual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 05:53 AM |
| 9 | Women are extremely selective and that's okay.“If we held women accountable for their actions, I’d argue that we would be in this mess” Are you sure it is something that is actually able to be held accountable for? What I’m referring to is the “the decisions women are making when they have the most to offer men”. Realistically one can only be held accountable if there is some kind of agreement that it is a responsibility that they hold. If there is no such agreement then no wrong has been committed. Are women responsible for providing to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/23 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now.Yep, I get it. I raised two as well though it seems to depend on interests and social groups. Sporty kids spend a lot of time on sports and it’s a time sink - team practice twice a week, individual practise, competition, sporting club social groups, then individual friendship obligations such as birthdays. Academic kids tend to do the same and it kinda groups off as well - writing clubs/groups, competitions/ challenge events, study groups and so on. Theatre groups- heck there is a time sink. Pho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now.“Nowadays, everyone goes straight home from work/school and stays there cause that’s much easier” You have a point about people generally being less social due to technology but I think the above comment is wrong. The majority of people have some kind of social life. There are varying degrees for sure but it is still unusual to not have social connection that you have to leave your home for. A lot of young people could look at your description of being a teen and pretty much relate, they just ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:00 PM |
| 1 | How traditional or modern is your ideal relationship?It depends on the period of time you are talking about? Pre-marriage/early marriage - egalitarian. Young kids - pretty “traditional” (but a modern version) with me taking over most of the home stuff. Older kids - almost reverse traditional with partner taking over almost all home stuff. Currently - egalitarian. Depends on what stage we are at with meeting our life goals, some of them are big and to get them achieved it takes a lot support. Overall I guess you could say we take a flexible approac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.“Get all possible problems and thoughts and thoughts that might arise dealt with preemptively” Yes I really do think that there is a lot of that through the comment section, I feel you are not alone. It’s almost a collective anxiety that is feeding on itself and I mean no disrespect when I say that, it is only an observation. This is not the reality of the world we live in though. Relationships themselves are full of risks. Everyday life is full of risks, there is no real basis for guarantee or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:46 AM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Thank you, that helps a lot. I think this comes down differing cognitive processing. You were really clear with your description but I don’t recognise your conclusions in my own interpretation which is super interesting in itself! Yes you are correct in your first paragraph of my thinking other than the absolute nature of it. I tend to include a bit more flexibility in my thoughts but overall you did a great job. You kind of lost me in your second paragraph though, the “now, you can say that bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 02:30 AM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Oh, could you provide context? Sorry, I really want to answer but not sure I’m following the question in terms of the context of the subject. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 12:36 PM |
| 4 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.I don’t think there is anything wrong in expecting mutual trust within your relationship, particularly if that is what was established when you were dating and it is important to you. It really is that simple. If your long term partner (lover, husband, whatever) withdraws his trust, for some people the relationship is no longer viable. It would be devastating to be suddenly considered not worthy of trust without cause, particularly with someone for whom you had believed you had established mutua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 12:17 PM |
| – | Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreatedDid you think it would? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 08:29 PM |
| 25 | The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kidsWould you be ashamed to speak these words to his face? Your assessment of him being “the type of man who wouldn’t have been a women’s choice if she didn’t have kids?” “A bit of a chump?”. You whole post to be honest… Honestly I would rather be dragged over hot coals than speak of a kind, generous family member this way. Actually I wouldn’t speak of any of my family members this way. Each to their own though I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 10:42 AM |
| 64 | The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kids“If you ask him, he’s actually fine with it and is happy with his life”. The actual audacity in your description of your stepfather’s life is breathtaking. You devalue his happiness and life choices, where he chose to focus his effects and build a sense of achievement? Who he chose to love and support? Why? What did he do to you to deserve such disrespect? Enjoy your internet points OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 10:22 AM |
| 3 | Cake and eat it too?There has been versions of the “go bag” for generations. Hasn’t anyone heard of Grandma pressing money in her granddaughter’s hand on her wedding day and telling her to hide it “just in case”? Maybe it’s finally falling by the wayside if it is as unknown as it appears in this thread, but it’s not as uncommon as you may think. I would be strongly confident that this is where the woman in the OP’s post got it from - Mum, Grandma, Great Grandmother and so on. It’s not limited to “women that have a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 10:10 AM |
| 6 | Cake and eat it too?Ahhh, but you hit on a key concept of what I was trying to explain! Well done, I’m glad you brought this up. I believe it is due to some of those very broad stroke generalities of society that you mentioned why one of the foundations of trust within a personal relationship is so critical to most people. And why when it is destroyed it is so difficult to rebuild. Most adults are very aware of the negative aspects of society that you describe - cheating, violence, addiction, abuse and so on. Healt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 04:41 AM |
| 11 | Cake and eat it too?Hmm, I see. If you can’t imagine a scenario then explaining will be difficult. Let me see if I can make it fit for you. A lot of people do not want to be in a relationship that does not have trust. It is a common foundational requirement within long term relationships. If they entered the relationship believing there is trust on both sides, only to find that indeed there is not, the relationship is no longer viable for them. The process of discovering that there is not trust particularly on the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 02:32 AM |
| 14 | Cake and eat it too?Yes you do. Or you if you don’t you are truly very unusual. Being wrongly accused of something that serious is going to hurt, it’s a direct attack on your character and puts into question how that person actually views you. There is also the wider implications of the accusation for a long term personal relationship regarding trust which is central to a relationship. Frankly it would be hideous. Most people would be seriously offended and hurt if they were wrongly accused of theft in the workplac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Male Behavior Toward Female Success is a Supporting Case For Hypergamy.Yep, sheer unmitigated profit. A huge (50%!) of the population who quite stunningly happened to be well suited to the labor force due to technology advancement which happens to be less dependent on strength. The huge potential of untapped labor who adjusted shocking well to advanced education. There is no way that women are going back to the kitchen or any of those other unpaid jobs. You can outsource those jobs anyway into tidy little franchises which pay taxes! It’s all win all the way down in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is a trap.Yeah, while I think I know the point you are making I tend to disagree. The issue is offspring. A lot of wealthy people and large wealthy families want the next generation to hand their assets and businesses off to. They tend to be quite particular on the family structure, educational background and environment of those that marry into the family as well. They also have specific preferences on how those offspring are raised as well for obviously reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 04:48 AM |
| 6 | Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem.I wish this was highlighted more often. The sheer hours that young people redirect away from learning how to manage the life, relationships, face to face communication, difficult social interactions, building resilience, tackling new things, dealing with boredom, learning to deal with themselves and others. It’s so easy to turn on a complex, stimulating, carefully built achievement oriented environment where it is almost guaranteed to give you a positive emotion of some kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem.Congrats! Keep going. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 11:47 PM |
| 4 | The reasons for women to want marriage and children are often outweighed by the reasons not to, despite children being necessary for society as a wholeI think we have just made it to damn hard for women to have children. Considering we actually need children, it’s rather insane how hard we make it. Think of all the socially imposed hurdles between “I want to have sex” and “I have raised a child to adulthood” if you want to do it in a socially acceptable way. Don’t believe me? Look at the stigma unmarried single Mum’s get. “The birth rate is dropping!” is the cry. But a teenager gets pregnant outside marriage - “No! Not like that!”. A woman has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 12:26 AM |
| – | NOT PILLED YET - But this might do it. What do you all think?So you dated her and found some behaviours that you don’t like - she is dishonest and very probably disloyal. That is kinda what dating is for, to learn more about someone to determine if they are the right person for you. Dating! Working as intended, good job. Now obviously you are going to take care of yourself right? because it’s not exactly kind to attach yourself to a dishonest and disloyal person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 05:13 AM |
| 0 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.Ahh I love the “never” stuff. It’s so dead easy to test. Let’s wait and see yes? In the mean time you can sit back and chill, secure in the belief that things are headed in the direction you want - rather rapidly at that in terms of social change stuff. It sure beats the alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 10:13 PM |
| -2 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.No idea what you mean sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 10:02 PM |
| -1 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.There was a thread the other day about who pays on dates. It was pretty clear that there has been a huge shift, even for first dates, and even for people who frequent this subreddit. It does appears that if anything the USA is lagging slightly, and obviously there will be slight differences due to where you live, but there is no doubt it’s chalk and cheese to 50 years ago. If you are not happy with the rate of change to the “who pays” debate, just wait a few more years, it’s likely to keep headi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 10:00 PM |
| 2 | When Gen Z men get into their 30s will it even be worth it to date 30s women?No, nothing works in absolutes - that’s why comments such as “if you get her in her 20’s she won’t be jaded or full of man hate as a single woman in her 30’s” is absolute nonsense. In fact, I sincerely recommend you repeat your bolded text to yourself every time you are tempted to write such a statement again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 10:22 AM |
| 5 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.Good thing women are moving away from the whole men provision thing then? You can’t deny that Feminism really saved your butts on that one. It’s was a mass win as well because for the most part (other than a few pesky lingering social habits) it’s also letting men slide on the paying for dates - two birds with one stone! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 08:01 AM |
| 1 | When Gen Z men get into their 30s will it even be worth it to date 30s women?Oh, I’m pretty damn sure there are plenty of jaded 20 years olds. For some people, their experience of life in general was enough to make them jaded and they haven’t even got to dating yet. Source: r/PurplePillDebate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:19 AM |
| 4 | When Gen Z men get into their 30s will it even be worth it to date 30s women?I think you may have miss read my comment or perhaps replied to the wrong person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 10:12 AM |
| 55 | When Gen Z men get into their 30s will it even be worth it to date 30s women?Is there any reason to believe there will be a huge shift in personality between women in their 20’s and women in their 30’s? Aren’t women in their 20’s already picky? Isn’t that the dreaded reason they didn’t date you in the first place? They got all the way to 30 unmarried apparently due to this very flaw. So now you are chasing after women in their 20’s at peak pickiness, where they have maximum selection and at peak power due to their youth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 04:28 AM |
| 3 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleDepends, what is it’s intended purpose really? It’s a platform for others to view your profile widely and decide if they want to contact and interact with you. That’s it really and it works pretty nicely for that but end results might vary. If you don’t like the variation of the end results it might not be an enjoyable experience. I’m not surprised that a lot of people try it because of the potential benefits, I’m also not surprised that a lot of people limit their exposure or leave pretty quick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:26 PM |
| 1 | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sI don’t necessarily disagree, but you know what has also reduced? Acceptance. The “you can have it all”, the very bizarre “fair” and lastly “guaranteed” is such a strange concept historically. When has that ever been a thing? That people will be treated the same? Have the same opportunities? That happiness and comfort is the baseline of life and some deviation means that somehow it has gone wrong and you have not received your fair share? The vast difference in life experience based on your indi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:19 PM |
| 1 | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sTo some degree for those on the fence between cohabitation or marriage. The tax benefits, health care stuff could be the deciding factor. But just for general necessity of money and financial stability we can already see where the increases have happened - young people living at home longer, people delaying marriage and children, young people who do move out of home move into share homes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:01 PM |
| 0 | Once a woman stops being attracted to her husband, and the bedroom is dead, there is no reviving it.Sure, it assumes a lot, and it’s not going to be a magic bullet that applies to everyone. If I did I wouldn’t be posting for free, I would be selling that shit. But it is solid advice in the sense that it takes a large amount of common problems off the table and even gives some room start working backwards to work out where it all went wrong. What was I like when she was jumping my bones and how am I now? Did I take care of that element of my life or did I just get into bed and assume sex just w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Once a woman stops being attracted to her husband, and the bedroom is dead, there is no reviving it.I kind of agree. The easiest way is to avoid it this issue all together. Do your very best to remain the person that she wished to have sex with in the first place and build on that in a way that promotes her desire as life progresses. Maintain, develop and protect your personal lives with the same level of importance and dedication that you would feel if it went missing. If you dated and married her as a sexually attractive, caring, resourceful, responsive, dynamic, capable man who cares about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 11:33 PM |
| 1 | What are the most common reasons women get divorced?Yes, “I’m not happy and I am leaving you” or some version is common. At that point direct communication is a courtesy, it appears to be considered more polite to give some heads up when ending a marriage - sending a text or just moving out could seem a little abrupt. However if you found that words of this nature annoy you, you could consider requesting that all future communication be limited to your lawyer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:58 AM |
| 5 | Q4A: Are women more responsible for divorces?I think if the household responsibilities had routinely split between two people, dividing into two separate households and 50/50 split custody looks more intimidating for men than women. Men might be willing to put up with an higher level of dissatisfaction for longer to maintain the current routine. The person who is more comfortable in meeting the day to day needs of the kids - food, bedtimes, school drop offs/pickups, dealing with sick kids - along side the practicality of finances is going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Is it over for autistic or socially inept guys, or can they still do something about it? What are the most effective ways they can improve their social skills and personality?I think you can do something about it. This is not professional advice it is just my thoughts, take it with a pinch of salt, it is only for your consideration. Think about the how people generally pick up social skills, it is actually quite organised. Very young children attend social events with their parents, social interactions are model from them and parents correct incorrect behaviour. Very young people are exposed and expected to interact with a range of people across a range of age spectr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 11:20 PM |
| 3 | It's not a coincidence that women who have high amounts of experience tend to hate men and be the most cynicalHate? I think it’s a bit naive to think that women who really hate men all developed that emotion at an age where they entered the social dating market. I mean it’s not like women just pop out of a sealed container when they are old enough to date ready for you to prove how awesome men are if they would just pick you! You don’t want damaged women? No emotional baggage? No prior trauma with men? Chad, Brad, Sam and Bill might not have had as big of an impact you might imagine. I hate to tell you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 03:33 AM |
| 4 | Does men need to pay the bill?Ok, but there is nothing gentlemanly about forcing past a decline. There is no grace whatsoever in his behaviour. All he has achieved is discomfort. If it was a good natured “I will pay! No let me!” exchange that is different but it certainly didn’t read that way. In this case, there is certainly nothing gentlemanly in “a man to signal what he is willing to do to be your mate” and then pushing past such a demonstration of resistance. The socially acceptable way is to concede or negotiate back do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 05:26 AM |
| 3 | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?Completely agree. I don’t think the roots of the issue even sits in the reduction of third spaces though, it’s a bit trickier than that. I believe It’s starts in the reduction in face to face social skills being developed in the community as a whole which contributes to the decline of third spaces as they are increasingly not being used. It’s a bit of a feedback loop so to speak. You pointed it out beautifully when noting the experience in addiction services. The commonality of experience and co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Doubts about the red pill ideologyYes you are right of course, a lot of these concepts don’t work simply because they do not transcend logically into the a complexity of real life. Take Divorce for instance. You can ban divorce but marriage and divorce are social concepts with some legal consequences. While you can ban divorce you can not stop someone from actually leaving - which is a very accessible option today. Once one spouse chooses to leaves there is very little recourse and banning divorce becomes pretty irrelevant and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.Does the motive / standard really matter though? It appears you are saying that both men and women are having sex prior to marriage and it’s pretty common to the degree that anything else it very unusual. That’s it, full stop, the rest doesn’t matter after that. That girl who ticked all your boxes and you brought dinner and married and so on by default of the first statement has probably had sex with someone prior to meeting you - as both men and women are commonly having sex prior to marriage. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Are women really that disgusted by inexperienced/virgin men?I think that most people want to date others with similar social experiences that they have. What is they can relate to, what feels socially “normal”, or what fits their belief system in some way. What is socially normal these days is pretty diverse which is why it really comes down to some people will be a bit concerned and some won’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For MenAhh, but your third paragraph gave a strong indication that dating pre to becoming powerful was a poor exercise or at the very least risky: “The idea that men powerless men have a fair shot at love is a lie”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Everything In Relationships Ultimately Comes Down To Power For MenOk, that’s quite the laundry list of personal achievements you have listed there. I particularly like your 6th paragraph as a list of goals. What age would you recommend getting started if you would like to get that all achieved in time to start a family by say late 20’s / mid 30’s? Look, your list of goals and achievements are admirable and yes personal development is rewarding across a lifetime. The irony is that I feel that as you develop some of the qualities that you have listed, the less y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 10:53 PM |
| – | Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers?I really don’t know, but I tend to doubt it. My primary reason for doubting your conclusion is because there is a general reduction in marriage in other more conservative countries as well - Japan and South Korea as an example but there are plenty others with other cultural norms to choose from. Marriage/birth rates are falling widely.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 11:08 AM |
| 0 | Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers?I don’t know if that is true or not to be honest. I think there is probably quite a wide variety of level of care regarding past sexual history, and quite a wide variety in what the general community thinks is “normal” these days. Some pockets of the community probably still thinks no sexual history prior to marriage is “normal, good, appropriate, acceptable” and another pocket probably thinks some sexual history is “normal, good, appropriate, acceptable” as they think it’s a sign of adulthood. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 03:54 AM |
| -1 | Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers?Hmm, I guess that’s what I was referring to though. The “recent” willingness to have sex outside the context of a monogamous committed relationship is both not overly recent and increasingly (if not even widely) quite accepted in terms of social norms now. Yes, absolutely there is differing levels tolerances within the community but that is not unusual, just as there is differing tolerances for lots things (tattoos for instance). People tend to spend the majority of their time in the section of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 03:35 AM |
| 11 | Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers?“What no body tells these women (or they don’t believe it) is it can affect their ability to lock down the guy want when the time comes”. I guess that is no longer a common theme because “day to day” in reality it doesn’t happen often enough to really matter any more as a valid warning. To any real degree there is no longer “shot gun” weddings, no fathers weeping on the side of the aisle because their daughters are not virgins, very little gossip amongst social groups really unless the behaviour… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Consider that genders are 50/50, if huge numbers of men are undesirable, then that implies a lot of women will not have a stable familyYou need to take into account that Antidepressants can be prescribed as part of the treatment for Perimenopause and Menopause. https://www.healthline.com/health/antidepressants-for-menopause#benefits https://www.themenopausecharity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Antidepressants-and-Menopause.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 12:07 AM |
| 3 | This video proves what a lot of guys complain about is real.I think you are reaching a bit. A young woman who just read your advice and dashes off to join the local “reading club”, and buys a ticket to the local “charity event” is not going to suddenly stumble upon a secret cache of young eligible fledgling high value men that other women have not as yet stumbled across. As for networking events it entirely is determined by the network you can access or you are all the way back to “networking” in the hood, or the equivalent. Your family networks are also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 10:32 PM |
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