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| 2 | The operational sex ratio (OSR) is the ratio of sexually active males to sexually available females. The OSR among human foragers is 8.6-11.7, placing humans above chimpanzees (4.5) and most other anthropoid primates, only below orangutans (55.0) and gorillas (83.8). (Puts 2015)The title is wrong. It should be fertilizable females. So as NeusCaesus correctly points out this is not necessarily about sex, but opportunities to fertilize a female, so competition here could also include sperm competition. OSR is, I think, much more behaviorally relevant to species in which the females strongly advertise their estrus which isn't the case at all in humans, so competition spreads across the entire menstrual cycle, i.e. across all time, but still you have lactating, pregnant an… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/12/19 07:03 PM |
| 3 | The operational sex ratio (OSR) is the ratio of sexually active males to sexually available females. The OSR among human foragers is 8.6-11.7, placing humans above chimpanzees (4.5) and most other anthropoid primates, only below orangutans (55.0) and gorillas (83.8). (Puts 2015)The OSR quantifies the ratio of competitors to contested resources (mates) and describes the potential difficulty in achieving mating opportunities (Kokko, Klug, & Jennions, 2012) You are right that this is not a very concrete measure of opportunities for sex. In humans OSR is also not very salient because women have a hidden estrus—they don't advertise it, but still men won't compete very much for pregnant women, lactating and i.e. those busy caring for an infant, intensifying competition about… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/12/19 06:50 PM |
| 4 | The operational sex ratio (OSR) is the ratio of sexually active males to sexually available females. The OSR among human foragers is 8.6-11.7, placing humans above chimpanzees (4.5) and most other anthropoid primates, only below orangutans (55.0) and gorillas (83.8). (Puts 2015)Full text: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/9781119125563.evpsych113 The OSR quantifies the ratio of competitors to contested resources (mates) and describes the potential difficulty in achieving mating opportunities. At any time, a sizeable proportion of women are removed from the mating pool because they are pregnant, lactating, or postmenopausal, making men the OSR-majority sex. Not even sure this factors in female choosiness and sexual disgust. Seems to simply compare the numb… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/12/19 04:26 PM |
| 30 | Effects of social exclusion on cognitive processes: Anticipated aloneness reduces intelligent thought. (Baumeister, R. F., Twenge, J. M., & Nuss, C. K. 2002)Also interesting and also by R. Baumeister: Social exclusion decreases prosocial behavior In 7 experiments, the authors manipulated social exclusion by telling people that they would end up alone later in life or that other participants had rejected them. Social exclusion caused a substantial reduction in prosocial behavior. Socially excluded people donated less money to a student fund, were unwilling to volunteer for further lab experiments, were less helpful after a mishap, and cooperated less… | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/11/19 02:09 AM |
| 3 | 90% of victims experiencing workplace mass hysteria are female (Brabant, Mergle & Messing, 2006)I didn't ever read it. I was only interested in the survey the author conducted and published it in this book. It's good that you reminded me of reviewing this as my info was somewhat wrong: The data comes from two national surveys. "Emotional Incidents in the Workplace Survey", ages 18-64. N = 701. Conducted by Anne Kreamer and Mark Truss, JWT’s director of brand intelligence. Spring 2009. More info: AnneKreamer.com 73% felt frustrated at work (men and women) Among young workers ages 18–44, 51%… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/11/19 11:37 PM |
| 11 | 90% of victims experiencing workplace mass hysteria are female (Brabant, Mergle & Messing, 2006)Notice how the only large male contributions are in industrial assembly, which are possibly more likely related to realistic threats like fire hazard or toxic substances the workers are exposed to? | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/11/19 10:34 PM |
| 42 | 90% of victims experiencing workplace mass hysteria are female (Brabant, Mergle & Messing, 2006)Women seem to score low in some "dominance proclivity" latent factor as indicated by variables like adult crying, anxiety, childish anger, compliance, dolls vs trucks, private vs public, cooking vs construction, excessive smiling, preference for dominant partner and the like. Highly correlated with childishness. Dutton suggested this sex difference comes in part from men preferring obedient women as those are less likely to cuckold them, which matters since resource investment is so expensive fo… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/11/19 08:55 PM |
| 26 | 90% of victims experiencing workplace mass hysteria are female (Brabant, Mergle & Messing, 2006)I copied and translated Tableau 1 below. Sector (context) # hysteria episodes Women/cases Food (processing plants) 2 61/65 Food (plantations) 3 60/60 Textile (fabrication) 5 189/200 Textile (warehouse) 1 53/72 Service (telecom) 3 100/103 Service (data processing) 1 35/35 Service (hospital) 1 102/102 Industry (electronics assembly) 5 263/265 Industry (fabrication) 4 95/95 Industry (assembly) 5 314/406 Total 30 1272/1403 (90.7%, 95CI: 89%, 92%) Also interesting this wiki article which overwhelming… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/11/19 03:31 PM |
| 5 | Good looking children perform better than average looking children academically by .04 stdev per stdev in looks.School performance and IQ correlate with r = .5 or so. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/11/19 01:22 PM |
| 8 | Good looking children perform better than average looking children academically by .04 stdev per stdev in looks.It isn't very much. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/11/19 11:29 PM |
| 9 | Good looking children perform better than average looking children academically by .04 stdev per stdev in looks.Here is a related paper from 1993: https://www.drjoebio.com/uploads/1/8/1/3/1813500/30_seconds_teacher_quality.pdf consensual judgments of college teachers' molar nonverbal behavior based on very brief (under 30 s) silent video clips significantly predicted global end-of-semester student evaluations of teachers. Direction of causality can go both ways, though physical attractiveness is only slightly correlated with IQ, if at all. In this meta study around r = .07: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/11/19 08:06 PM |
| 7 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)My black pill translation is by the time they get married, women have had so much random chad dick the ordinary guy who's willing to sacrifice his home, his life, and half his income for her just doesn't measure up. I think women simply get bored sooner as a result of their choosiness. Intimacy reveals the man's flaws, so other less flawed men become more sexually attractive. Feminists misinterpret this as female promiscuity. In truth it's a result of loose hierarchies, feminism, economic stagna… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/10/19 12:08 PM |
| 3 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)"Some anecdotes" is not good enough. See for example how much variance there is when repeating data collection with a small sample size in these gifs: https://twitter.com/ajstewart_lang/status/1064900074512285696 https://twitter.com/ajstewart_lang/status/1020038488278945797 | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/10/19 08:22 AM |
| 3 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)social media use and smartphones are rewiring the human brain. You can't simply "rewire a brain". Psychology is hard to perturb. What does change is context which in turn changes incentives, norms and then behavior. People execute the same adaptations in different context. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/10/19 08:15 AM |
| 5 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)My anecdotes are more valid than these "studies". Nearly every married woman I chatted with online no matter the platform or circumstances that we met one another was inclined to cheat. This may stem from a selection effect in that married women who use online dating want to liberate themselves from their partner and may be particularly horny. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/10/19 07:53 AM |
| 5 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)So all the college girls sleeping with 12 different guys a year are looking for parental investment? There are women who are just as horny as men, just a lot fewer. The point is that women's overall demand for sex is lower. If women appear to have less of sex drive it's probably because they are more discriminate about who they find attractive than men are. That's a separate issue from sex drive. I mentioned that: "men are more promiscuous" which means women are more choosy. Facebook and Twitter… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/10/19 07:48 AM |
| 3 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Hm that makes sense, thanks for clarifying. There was that other study showing women become bitter (also to beta males) after being rejected by an alpha male. This may be related. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/at7cpv/if_a_woman_is_rejected_by_an_attractive_male_she/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 10:52 PM |
| 11 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Do you mean you disagree, or don't understand what I'm saying? Both | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 09:17 PM |
| 13 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Does that make sense? No | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 08:57 PM |
| 14 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Evolution throws the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall, what survives to best propagate its genes is what sticks. Isn't that logical? Logical means simply mechanical (not teleological). | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 08:56 PM |
| 14 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)men are worse to their partners than women Highly unlikely. According to the CDC’s statistics—estimates based on more than 18,000 telephone-survey responses in the United States—roughly 5,365,000 men had been victims of intimate partner physical violence in the previous 12 months, compared with 4,741,000 women. By the study’s definition, physical violence includes slapping, pushing, and shoving. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/the… | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 08:39 PM |
| 20 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Everything comes down to Bateman's principle. Women are more choosy due to greater parental investment. Women can afford to date up (hypergamy) and determine most things in a relationship (Briffault's law) because men have higher sex drive and are more promiscuous. A perfidious adaptation that only the cold logic of evolution could have come up with. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 06:52 PM |
| 32 | Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)Likely boils down to female choosiness/fickleness. Women have more sexual regret. Men regret missing out on sex. Women are also generally regarded as more favorably (women-are-wonderful effect). Other interesting results on female fickleness cited in this study: Women blame their male partners more often for breakups than men blame their female partners (moderate effect size). https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1998-10075-011 (Choo et al., 1996) Men are more likely to claim that they do not know wha… | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/10/19 02:49 PM |
| 6 | Meta-analysis: physical attractiveness predicts romantic evaluations for both men and women.Full text: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.648.2672&rep=rep1&type=pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/10/19 09:49 PM |
| 3 | In a large French survey, 68.8% of men (N = 8948) admitted that "sexual intercourse is essential to feeling good about oneself" (Bajos et al. 2010)Very likely because an escort just simulates the status-boosting experience of being selected by someone and it's no long-term emotional support. It's not the real thing, but I do not know of any direct scientific evidence thereof. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/09/19 03:21 AM |
| 10 | Students who do not date/cannot get a date are not social misfits, suggests new study, which found that adolescents who were not/cannot be in a relationship had good social skills and low depression, and fared better or equal to peers who dated, refuting the notion that non-daters are maladjusted.Only around 50% of 12th graders date. It was 58% in 2014: https://i.imgur.com/nZ2F4pM.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/09/19 01:49 PM |
| 17 | Students who do not date/cannot get a date are not social misfits, suggests new study, which found that adolescents who were not/cannot be in a relationship had good social skills and low depression, and fared better or equal to peers who dated, refuting the notion that non-daters are maladjusted.How old are 10th graders? 15-16 years old, probably mostly 15? Probably 30% or so have dated, so it is not the norm by sheer numbers, but perhaps the authors have some evidence that students at this age often feel pressured in this regard and associate not dating with maladaptiveness and failure? | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/09/19 09:40 PM |
| 4 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)One shouldn't take any of the studies posted here at face value without a meta study, or even multiple meta studies. Here is a study that mentions the link between economic conservatism and IQ: https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/01/intelligence_ma_1.html | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/09/19 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Two multi-wave, longitudinal studies demonstrate sex difference in sexual desire after marriage. Women's sexual desire declined on average after marriage, while men's desire generally stayed constant. (McNulty et al. 2019)They did attempt to replicate Klusmann 2002 & 2006 that women who didn’t live with their partner did not show the decline in sex drive? | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/09/19 09:58 AM |
| 12 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)The author of the study himself (S. Kanazawa). Though there have been mixed findings on this since. For example economic conservatives tend to have higher IQ, IIRC. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/09/19 04:02 PM |
| 4 | In a large French survey, 68.8% of men (N = 8948) admitted that "sexual intercourse is essential to feeling good about oneself" (Bajos et al. 2010)True, I bet like >90% would agree that "being in a relationship is essential to feeling good about oneself". Still it does seem like sexual intercourse alone is a fundamental need for the majority of people. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/08/19 10:38 PM |
| 8 | In a large French survey, 68.8% of men (N = 8948) admitted that "sexual intercourse is essential to feeling good about oneself" (Bajos et al. 2010)As per the same study, 59.5% among women also said sexual intercourse is essential, so it almost seems like sex is widely regarded as fundamental need even when masculinity plays no role... | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/08/19 01:21 PM |
| 10 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)you're implying that powerful men are intelligent right? No, but some are. but what would be the penalty from having many wives? See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/chc3yu/young_men_who_belong_to_polygynous_groups_feel/ And also the monogamy section here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/am4dod/the_ultimate_benefits_of_female_companionship/ evolutionarily speaking genghis khan achieved the highest objective by spreading his sperm far and wide. why was t… | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 09:57 PM |
| 1 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)Bureaucracy is low IQ. | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 08:46 PM |
| 1 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)Atheism and liberalism are about more freedom. Monogamy is about less freedom. | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 08:22 PM |
| 38 | More intelligent men are more likely to value monogamy and sexual exclusivity than less intelligent men (Kanazawa, 2008a)Being smarter allows you to think through ways of structuring society that yield less reward today, but much more tomorrow (delayed gratification). Powerful men who could have many wives forego this pleasure (near-term penalty, sacrifice) at the benefit of a more stable society (long-term reward). | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Greater wealth inequality, less polygyny: rethinking the polygyny threshold model (Ross et al. 2018)Lol, the expenses of some wives seem to vanish compared to economic inequality (I mean we're often talking CEO to employee pay ratios of 100 to 1), or you'd need an impractical amount of wives for this to matter... | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 06:51 PM |
| 10 | Greater wealth inequality, less polygyny: rethinking the polygyny threshold model (Ross et al. 2018)Kinda the opposite to what I expected. Greater wealth inequality leads to choosier women, but not more polygyny because the number of men who can afford multiple wives decreases and also having multiple wives has quickly diminishing returns for the wealthiest males. Edit: Though economic inequality does lead to more divorces hence more men engaging in serial-monogamy with high SMV males remarrying more often (which is de-facto polygyny). Not sure whether this holds true cross-culturally though. … | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/08/19 04:22 PM |
| 10 | In a large French survey, 68.8% of men (N = 8948) admitted that "sexual intercourse is essential to feeling good about oneself" (Bajos et al. 2010)Not to all men, of course. Less in total though, which together with your observation has dire implications for the least desirable men. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/08/19 06:23 PM |
| 13 | In a large French survey, 68.8% of men (N = 8948) admitted that "sexual intercourse is essential to feeling good about oneself" (Bajos et al. 2010)I could imagine that some men lied and answered 'no' to this question because they did not want to appear shallow (social desirability bias). The same study also reports a decline in sexual activity between 1992 and 2006 for men under 30 (10.4 vs 7.7 mean number of partners, during lifetime, p < 10e-5) which roughly matches the trend in the US, so French women are also likely giving out less sex. Edit: Btw men's number of partners can likely be trusted as there is no good evidence of them lying … | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/08/19 06:10 PM |
| 5 | Women’s preferences for men’s facial masculinity are strongest under favorable ecological conditionsModern countries also do not enforce monogamy as much which may increase women's standards as women get used to dating up regarding looks more. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/08/19 10:49 PM |
| 5 | Women’s preferences for men’s facial masculinity are strongest under favorable ecological conditionsPrevious discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bop7x7/womens_preferences_for_mens_facial_masculinity/ Onset of menarche (or whatever is causing earlier onset of menarche) may explain at least some of this effect if I'm not mistaken: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1474704916637876 | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/08/19 07:04 PM |
| 2 | 68% of women who reported to have a partner with a small penis admitted desiring a larger one (Lever et al. 2006)Possibly xenoestrogens and other pollutants? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1469672/ Obesity and sperm count are also negatively correlated, though it could also stem from this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/08/19 01:18 PM |
| 4 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)I'm curious as to what you think are (based on your reading of the relevant research), the most important phenotypic factors that contribute towards displaying 'physical dominance'. BTW, I fixed the link in this comment. The study from this link suggests "upper body size" matters the most. It's an average of z-standardized shoulder width, bust-chest girth, and upper arm girth (means of left and right arms). I bet the study lacks ecological validity for human evolution though (88.4% university st… | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/08/19 01:11 PM |
| 4 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)Maybe it's partially the result of shorter men getting buffer to compensate for their lack of stature? May play a small role. All attractive features are pretty weakly correlated as far as I know. Physical dominance is probably the most important factor, and height probably does play a role in this albeit a small one. Btw, partner quality may be a better measure than partner count because the latter obscures effects for high SMV men with high risk aversion or low sex drive. But this is hard to m… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/08/19 01:49 PM |
| 5 | Another replication of mate-choice copying: Women rate men about 1 of 10 points more attractive when men are surrounded by other women vs by other men or alone (Scofield et al., 2019)Yes, and it is fairly well studied and sometimes large effect sizes (around d = 1.), see the mate choice copying section here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a7065g/the_ultimate_hypergamy_compilation/ This seems to be another evolved heuristic by which females choose from the top of the hierarchy (besides e.g. dark triad behavior). Multiple females socializing with a man is a hard-to-fake signal of high status as each female chooses based on status. Though the convenience pre… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/08/19 09:25 PM |
| 3 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)Is this from the study? From Price 2011. There were six predictors. Five of these were anthropometric predictors based on body scanner measurements, taken in millimeters. The first of these, upper body muscle mass (‘‘muscularity’’), was the summed z-scores of mean bicep circumference, horizontal shoulder circumference, and chest circumference. How does that square with this study and this one There is a weak correlation, generally weaker than muscularity, but perhaps cultural variation? Wow, I k… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/08/19 10:44 AM |
| 3 | More attractive females (not males) were less likely to be arrested and convicted (Beaver et al., 2019)They found no significant effect for males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/08/19 10:36 AM |
| 2 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)It's interesting that they didn't find a link between egalitarianism and height though Correlation between height and muscularity is only r = .23* and I think muscularity is more important establishing dominance than height: Our lack of detecting a significant effect of body height on mating success converges with previous studies showing a mixture of positive and negative, linear and quadratic associations between height and reproductive success (e.g., Nettle, 2002; Stulp, Pollet, Verhulst, & B… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/08/19 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Recession cues increase women's desire for men owning luxury products and men's desire to buy them (Bradshaw et al. 2019)In GSS there is a significant increase in zero partners since age 18 for women in their early twenties (nummen == 0, sex == 2, age < 25). Years N Zero partners % 1990-2001 693 75 11 2012-2018 307 54 18 X2 = 8.7, p = .003, so significant at p < .01. (Of course besides increased sexual competition due to economic inequality, other factors may be less strictly enforced monogamy, more feminine females due to xenoestrogens preferring men with higher T, lower T males due to xenoestrogens, high inhib m… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/08/19 09:24 PM |
| 25 | More attractive females (not males) were less likely to be arrested and convicted (Beaver et al., 2019)So attractive females receive more lenient treatment due to their neoteny? What's funny is that the negative relation between attractiveness and criminal involvement was also only statistically significant in females. Not sure what could explain this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/08/19 10:05 AM |
| 3 | Recession cues increase women's desire for men owning luxury products and men's desire to buy them (Bradshaw et al. 2019)See sidebar. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/08/19 09:56 AM |
| 10 | 68% of women who reported to have a partner with a small penis admitted desiring a larger one (Lever et al. 2006)Hm, yeah women may be especially susceptible to the social desirability bias due to higher agreeableness (not sure), but they are definitely known to lie and pretend e.g. fake orgasms and underreport number of sex partners, possibly because they are weaker and want to get away with their high standards without causing anger, or because they have much lower accountability as they are loved unconditionally (mostly because of their neoteny and because men's cumulative sex drive is higher), or due t… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 10:57 PM |
| 12 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)They provide an interesting evo-psych explanation: In ancestral human environments, muscularity and height (in males) and physical attractiveness (in both sexes) would theoretically have correlated positively with one’s social status, and thus with one’s ability to benefit from social inequality. We therefore hypothesized that individuals who are more characterized by these traits would be less egalitarian (i.e., less likely to believe that resources should be distributed equally in social group… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 08:22 PM |
| 9 | 68% of women who reported to have a partner with a small penis admitted desiring a larger one (Lever et al. 2006)Of course women want big dick, for thousands of years men had larger penis sizes but the average seems to have decreased Source? Males at the expansions out of Africa may have had shorter penises than all of the contemporary races. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 06:02 PM |
| 4 | Men with more masculine digit ratios are partnered with more attractive women (Kuna & Galbarczyk, 2018)Neat evidence of test. That being said the correlations here are pretty meager, meaning don't attempt conclude anything based on your 2D:4D. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 04:37 PM |
| 20 | Muscularity in males and self-perceived attractiveness in both sexes associate significantly negatively with egalitarianism (r around .36) (Price et al., 2011)I.e. more evidence that Giga Chad is not a feminist. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 04:34 PM |
| 5 | Recession cues increase women's desire for men owning luxury products and men's desire to buy them (Bradshaw et al. 2019)More evidence that economic scarcity and inequality incite intrasexual competition in both sexes. It makes women compete by looks and a reputation of chastity and premarital virginity for the few men with reliable high value, who in turn compete more with signals of economic power such as luxury goods. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 04:20 PM |
| 17 | Another replication of mate-choice copying: Women rate men about 1 of 10 points more attractive when men are surrounded by other women vs by other men or alone (Scofield et al., 2019)Effect size is roughly d = 0.5, but what a funny and primitive automatism this is. Makes you wonder whether this effect could be amplified with more intense stimuli, possibly video stimuli, e.g. the man could be telling a joke with the females surrounding laughing about it. Or one could make the contextual females look up at the man with lust or touch him, hold hands with him. Or the man could actually be having sex with the females. Perhaps the effect would be even more pronounced. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 01:41 PM |
| 29 | 68% of women who reported to have a partner with a small penis admitted desiring a larger one (Lever et al. 2006)True, provided that 91% of men with small penis are unhappy with it (as per the same study), they may be much more inhibited which is very unattractive behavior to females. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 01:31 PM |
| 36 | 68% of women who reported to have a partner with a small penis admitted desiring a larger one (Lever et al. 2006)PDF: https://peplau.psych.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/141/2017/07/Lever_Frederick_Peplau_2006.pdf 85% of women were satisfied with their partner’s penis size, only 55% of men were satisfied with their penis size most women rated their partner’s penis size as average (67%), some women viewed their partner’s penis size as large (27%), and few women perceived their partner’s penis size as small (6%) Correlation of BMI and penis size: r = .11 Correlation of height and penis size: r = .15 Inter… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/19 01:13 PM |
| 4 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Wow, can you please link a source for that figure, at the upper bounds of that range, that's nearly as heritable as height. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27127623 some even regressing in muscle size Amazing. Physical fitness is also only weakly correlated with mating success (r = .22). https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513806000754 Physical fitness is correlated with body attractiveness r = .43*** (agrees with numbers I've seen elsewhere), but not with facial attra… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/08/19 04:06 PM |
| 3 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Sounds like a fancy way of saying "it's hard" which is just an excuse for laziness. For some it is for other's it isn't. The point of the blackpill is merely to find explanations with external loci of control as a counterweight to the prevalent presumption that poor social life is mostly people's own fault (horn effect?). Everyone can build muscle if they put in enough time and effort. The heritability of aerobic endurance is estimated to be 50%, 30-85% for muscle strength and 50-80% for lean ma… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/07/19 07:21 AM |
| 3 | "You're only as pretty as you feel: Facial expression as a determinant of physical attractiveness." In other words, besides overt healthfulness, a contented face is a more attractive face and sad or stressed faces are unattractive and undesirable.Is OP's study actually about females rating male targets? | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/07/19 11:42 PM |
| 5 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Physical endurance and ability to gain muscle mass are mostly external locus of control. Other features of physical dominance like body height are immutable without surgery. At higher age it becomes increasingly difficult to make meaningful progress. Some people may have never invested in muscle mass because they were falsely told that it would not matter much. Perceived strength only correlates with actual strength with r = .25 to .4, or so, so most of perceived strength is also only ornament, … | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/07/19 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Young men who belong to polygynous groups feel that they are treated more unequally and are readier to use violence in comparison to those belonging to monogamous groups (Koos et al. 2019)Seems to be widely used in the literature, but not sure it is used in the same way. Subordinate to betas, whereas omegas are subordinate to everyone. More on revolutionary alliances btw.: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ajpa.1330380607 | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/07/19 05:24 PM |
| 21 | "You're only as pretty as you feel: Facial expression as a determinant of physical attractiveness." In other words, besides overt healthfulness, a contented face is a more attractive face and sad or stressed faces are unattractive and undesirable.physical health is the #1 contributor, making the body and face inherently attractive Not true. Halo effect. The #1 contributor to attractiveness is a specific bone and cartilage structure, followed by skin texture and hair distribution, specifically shaped muscle and fat tissues, body height/physical dominance (for males). Beauty is mostly ornament and the correlation of beauty with health (and ability fwiw.) is rather weak: No link between facial asymmetry and immunocompetence http://doi.org/1… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/07/19 05:01 PM |
| 18 | Young men who belong to polygynous groups feel that they are treated more unequally and are readier to use violence in comparison to those belonging to monogamous groups (Koos et al. 2019)Beta animals are too stupid to use their number advantage against the few alpha Chimps are also cognitively advanced enough to organize in such coalitions: Both Nikkie and Yeroen became less submissive toward Luit and resisted his interference more and more often. When the leader displayed at the two of them, they were no longer intimidated. Yeroen began to scream and furiously attacked Luit while Nikkie kept close to Yeroen with his hair on end, as if he were threatening Luit. Nikkie gradually … | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/07/19 10:23 PM |
| 3 | For heterosexual couples in the U.S., meeting online has become the most popular way couples meet, eclipsing meeting through friends for the first time around 2013. Moreover, among the couples who meet online, the proportion who have met through the mediation of third persons has declined over time.Yes, very likely. Dating websites/apps are also by far the most quickly growing category: https://i.imgur.com/C0MBfix.png http://www.unm.edu/~reubenjthomas/onlineexogamy.pdf (p. 39) Not sure how the graph relates to the conjectured 24% (p. 21). Provided that "Met online" accounted for 39% of the new couples in 2017, that would require 24% = x * 39%, x = 62% of "Met online" to be through dating apps/websites. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/07/19 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Women’s preferences for men’s facial masculinity were stronger in countries with better ecological conditions and where women engaged in short-term relationships (Marcinkowska et al. 2019)I think you have interesting ideas, but they are presented in a way that is confusing to me and too time consuming to understanding. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/07/19 10:59 PM |
| 3 | Women’s preferences for men’s facial masculinity were stronger in countries with better ecological conditions and where women engaged in short-term relationships (Marcinkowska et al. 2019)A main confounder here might be narcissism: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180125135540.htm More modernized people may be more entrapped in the globalist rat race which increases standards all around as centralized/globalized media force you to compare yourself with an elite selected from a larger pool hence one of higher quality. This results in a stronger preference for better genes, hence a stronger preference for exaggerated sexual dimorphism. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/07/19 08:12 AM |
| 6 | For heterosexual couples in the U.S., meeting online has become the most popular way couples meet, eclipsing meeting through friends for the first time around 2013. Moreover, among the couples who meet online, the proportion who have met through the mediation of third persons has declined over time.Previously discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bmxu2n/around_24_of_us_couples_formed_between_2015_and/ The fraction of couples who meet through online dating is "only" around 24%. The fraction of couples meeting online is around 40%, but it is very broadly defined: "internet" by itself is unspecified internet "Internet Dating" can include any matchmaking or personal ad sites, including non-romantic (like band seeking a drummer). "Internet Games" include online game… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/07/19 07:02 AM |
| 7 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)In this study they found that rated face and body attractiveness contribute independently and substantially, with no interaction, to overall female and male attractiveness. https://www.mta.ca/~raiken/Courses/3401/Labs/Lab%20Papers/sym6.pdf So a good face can make up for weakness, but the effect likely remains that practically no women prefer a physically weaker man for any given face because they judge overall attractiveness simply as a weighted mean of face and body attractiveness. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/07/19 05:14 AM |
| 4 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)In which way, do you think, would that influence the outcome and in which direction? | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/07/19 04:24 AM |
| 10 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)I think not costly enough to justify a sex difference to the extent it exists. Matriarchal mammals prove that females can be physically dominating despite higher parental investment. Consider how strongly body mass varies between humans; that variation is larger than the amount of additional organic matter that grows & needs to be maintained during pregnancy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/07/19 06:41 PM |
| 1 | 13.9% of men aged 25-45 reported never having had sex. Among female participants, a total of 104 (8.9%) women aged 25-45 reported never having sex - Men showed lower rates of sexual abstinence if they reported having spent time in prison or serving in the military.Men sometimes exaggerate their partner count, but they probably lie a lot less less. Women probably mainly lie to avoid drawing negative attention and gossip from other women. Men do not have to care about such things as much as they are much less gossipy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/07/19 03:23 AM |
| 6 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Women are a lot weaker (around 40% less muscle mass), so they need protection. They are weaker because of higher parental investment or a parasitic adaptation (I think both with the former initiating the latter). | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/07/19 02:59 AM |
| 5 | Around 70% of reviewers of true crime literature on Amazon.com are female (Vicary & Fraley, 2010)Possibly something like this: https://i.imgur.com/RFG8II5.png https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0961000617709061?journalCode=lisb Edit: Note that the graph above is corrected for the surplus of female reviewers and likely confounded by all kinds of things when doing it this way. Below are the actual percentages: https://i.imgur.com/u4TDd4l.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/07/19 02:30 PM |
| 17 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Yeah bodyguard hypothesis, or from a more blackpilled view it's another manifestation of the overall parasitic dependence of human females, which, as matriarchal mammals demonstrate, is not strictly necessary. Giving birth is not that costly. Human females seem choosier than necessary. It is a local minimum that sexual species are generally attracted to a.k.a. Bateman's principle and probably frequently involves tricking males into providing for them e.g. by making females neotenous and manipula… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/07/19 12:32 AM |
| 53 | None of 160 female student volunteers significantly preferred weaker men when rating attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)I've posted this study before here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b9hat3/cues_of_upper_body_strength_account_for_70_of_the/ But I missed this extremely crucial insight which completely refutes the feminist claim that a sizable fraction of women would be into weak men. Based on this calculator, 0/160 means that less than 2.3% of women prefer a weaker male with 97.5% confidence. By the way, good papers are also being collected here: https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/06/19 03:01 PM |
| 2 | In the 1600s age of first marriage reached 27 years old. A good place and time to look for more clues.On second thought, this may also explain women's (but not men's) recently increasing adult virginity (whether truthfully reported or not). There is more female intrasexual competition because of liberalism and economic stagnation and centralization, so women are under pressure to save their virginity to increase their SMV. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/06/19 11:49 PM |
| 1 | In a large online survey (N = 1341), 95.3% of the respondents thought that creepy people were much more likely to be males than females (McAndrew & Koehnke, 2016)-SMALL eyes. That's the biggest secret. Small, deep set eyes. Bulging eyes are also perceived as creepy. Anything abnormal is. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/06/19 06:43 PM |
| 5 | In a large online survey (N = 1341), 95.3% of the respondents thought that creepy people were much more likely to be males than females (McAndrew & Koehnke, 2016)According to the same study it is both about looks and neurotypical behavior (highlighting the most deterministic things about looks): The person stood too close to your friend (.509) The person had greasy hair (.582) The person had a peculiar smile (.546) The person had bulging eyes (.563) The person had long fingers (.503) The person had unkempt hair (.609) The person had very pale skin (.566) The person had bags under his or her eyes (.599) The person was dressed oddly (.601) The person licke… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/06/19 08:51 PM |
| 7 | In a large online survey (N = 1341), 95.3% of the respondents thought that creepy people were much more likely to be males than females (McAndrew & Koehnke, 2016)Women also have a lower activity level, are physically weaker, more agreeable, less likely to commit violent crime and rape, so there are fewer reasons to be afraid of them. Practically speaking, a low-quality woman cannot force their bad genes upon a man. (Of course, this cartoonish view tends to result in the false conclusion that females would never do bad things etc.) But one should not feel bad that there are multiple mechanisms because all of them can be unified by sex differences in paren… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/06/19 02:09 PM |
| 6 | Altruism predicts mating success in humansThe citation is on point. The sample in OP's altruism study is from Northern Ontario, Canada, which is not the most liberal province, but it was the first one to legalize gay marriage and Canada as a whole is very socialist. Donating blood and money etc. is currently high status, but it seems to come at the cost of PC. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/06/19 01:59 AM |
| 8 | The female rate of facial aging is higher than the male rate (Figure 7). Before age 50 and also after age 60, female faces age—on average—about twice as fast as male faces; between 50 and 60 years, this sex difference in aging rate is even more pronounced (up to three times faster).Their sample is unfortunately quite old: 32 males (aged 27.7–82.9 years) and 56 females (aged 26.0–89.8 years). | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/06/19 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Evidence for the Trivers-Willard hypothesis: Unhealthy, poorly nourished and low-status mothers are more likely to give birth to daughters because female offspring has a more reliable reproductive success (Song, 2012)Would be very interested in that study. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/06/19 02:10 AM |
| 1 | "Happiness expert" falsely claimed that married women say they're happier only when their husband is in the room. "Spouse absent" means "gone," not "stepped out."Who? Which comments? | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/06/19 12:38 AM |
| 8 | "Happiness expert" falsely claimed that married women say they're happier only when their husband is in the room. "Spouse absent" means "gone," not "stepped out."Referring to this submission: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bswyz7/women_are_happier_without_children_or_a_spouse/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/06/19 02:37 AM |
| 4 | For equal success with a white woman, an African-American needs to earn an additional $154,000; a Hispanic man needs $77,000; an Asian needs $247,000.It also seems to contradict the graphs here. Black women very rarely approach white men, but they do preferentially reply to their messages: Black women, [...] respond to daters who contact them fairly equally, with a preference for white men. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8fnk9n/online_dating_while_minority_youre_gonna_have_a/ /u/SubsaharanAmerican, any idea what is going on? | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/06/19 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Partner wealth predicts self-reported orgasm frequency in a sample of Chinese women (Pollet & Nettle, 2009)Thanks for this correction. | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/06/19 12:13 AM |
| 11 | Around 80% of females reported making copulatory vocalizations even when they knew they were not going to orgasm themselves (Brewer & Hendrie, 2011)Here is another explanation: women may feign orgasm in order to maintain male investment http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.699.9885&rep=rep1&type=pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/06/19 10:07 PM |
| 14 | Around 80% of females reported making copulatory vocalizations even when they knew they were not going to orgasm themselves (Brewer & Hendrie, 2011)Ells-worth and Bailey (2013) found that faked orgasms were correlated with the likelihood that women had engaged in sexual infidelity (r=.27, df=111, p=.004). They also found that males were more sexually satisfied with females who experienced more intense and frequent orgasms http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.699.9885&rep=rep1&type=pdf Furthermore, women's (authentic) orgasm intensity is correlated with partner attractiveness (r = .427, p < 0.0001), so yeah, it's probably… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/06/19 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Partner wealth predicts self-reported orgasm frequency in a sample of Chinese women (Pollet & Nettle, 2009)Image: https://i.imgur.com/8ZlOVOG.png PDF: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=14670588149573964458&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&sciodt=0,5 | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/06/19 06:05 PM |
| 17 | Around 80% of females reported making copulatory vocalizations even when they knew they were not going to orgasm themselves (Brewer & Hendrie, 2011)The following explanation has been provided for the high rate of females who cannot achieve orgasm (and instead fake it): Pavlicev and Wagner (2016) contended, it may be a due to the fact that there are not enough high-quality men to go around. In other words, some of the variance in orgasm frequency among women may be a consequence of variation in access to high fitness males, and this may apply especially to women suffering from female orgasmic disorder. [...] Consistent with our hypothesis, a… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/06/19 05:56 PM |
| 19 | Evidence for the Trivers-Willard hypothesis: Unhealthy, poorly nourished and low-status mothers are more likely to give birth to daughters because female offspring has a more reliable reproductive success (Song, 2012)Conversely, male offspring is more of a gamble. Males are more often failures, but a few males acquire high status and hence have more offspring than a female could ever have. This gamble is too risky to take when resources are scarce. In this study they found evidence for this in birth rate data from China's Great Leap Forward Famine: The current study examined the long-term trend in sex ratio at birth between 1929 and 1982 using retrospective birth histories of 310 101 Chinese women collected … | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/06/19 11:53 PM |
| 15 | Composite faces with full beards and small jaws received higher attractiveness ratings than bearded faces with large jaws and clean-shaven faces with large and small jaws, reports a study (p<0.001; η2p=0.40 for interaction term) (Dixson et al., 2017)Not sure what to make of this. The first photo was possibly rated as worse because it was interpreted as large beard by the raters (not as a large chin), but beard preferences are subject to temporary fashion. Large beards currently have connotations of hillbillies, barbarity, terrorists, boring clerics etc. | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/06/19 12:02 AM |
| 4 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominancehttp://archive.is/RHfJy#selection-4494.0-4494.9 According to comments in this link, overt xenophobia and racism are a lot more common in Russia than in the U.S which brings into question the notion that racism is the main factor. Secondly, they likely enforce monogamy more strictly in Russia, which may also explain some of the difference in AMWF rate. the submission which i have proven wrong lol. martial arts all come from east asia for a reason. You shouldn't really hold onto something that has… | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/06/19 09:46 PM |
| 5 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceDo you have statistics about the rate of AMWF couples in Russia? Asian males dominate North Asia and soon substantial parts of the world--of course this is about status. Everything is about status for women! In the West, Asian males have no prominent politicians or other public figures that could act as role models because Asians are a minority. At the same time they less likely win the physical dominance games in the feral post-liberation dating world as I outlined in my submission. Hence Asian… | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/06/19 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominancewhat did you mean by that? it started rising in the 60s Corrected my comment above. I meant that it only became noticeable somewhat later, i.e. late 1960s. Divorce rate only rose from ~9% in 1960 to ~11% in 1965, which is not noticeable. It peaked at ~24% in 1980, which is a huge difference. most aren't businessmen LOL. there was a story of a literal coalminer from inner mongolia (china) i believe, marrying a russian woman china LITERALLY has over a billion people more than russia Those who trav… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 09:43 PM |
| 4 | Around 70% of reviewers of true crime literature on Amazon.com are female (Vicary & Fraley, 2010)Thanks, I removed the part about men insisting on virginity. Firstly, it's not physical attractiveness, but more "reputational attractiveness" (unless the "stretching theory" is actually true, lmao). Secondly, according to SCCS, insistence on virginity was common in the past, but not universal: 165. PREMARITAL SEX ATTITUDES- FEMALE 56 . = Missing data 30 1 = Expected 28 2 = Tolerated 22 3 = Mildly disapproved 11 4 = Moderately disapproved 4 5 = Disallowed 35 6 = Strongly disapproved 282. NORMS O… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Psychopathy and Autism as Male Mating StrategiesAlso discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/ayb9qq/male_psychopaths_are_more_successful_at_dating/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 01:22 AM |
| 3 | Male psychopaths are more successful at dating and getting sexAlso discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/axc8q3/psychopathy_and_autism_as_male_mating_strategies/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 01:22 AM |
| 35 | Around 70% of reviewers of true crime literature on Amazon.com are female (Vicary & Fraley, 2010)Now that the mod has deleted my post on similar statistics on Reddit (because it has no DOI and is arguably not quite as methodologically rigorous), I thought this study would be a good replacement. PDF link: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/R_Fraley/publication/240287787_Captured_by_True_Crime_Why_Are_Women_Drawn_to_Tales_of_Rape_Murder_and_Serial_Killers/links/54d3a40f0cf28e0697288c35.pdf War literature on the other hand is male dominated (82% male), so sex diffs in interest in conflict ca… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 01:13 AM |
| 4 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceit started going up quite fast in the 60s. also it is not like chinese men were randomly raping white womento get them Late 1960. In the mid-1960s you were pretty much down in the noise. no it can't....90% of asia is poorer than russia, including china. GDP alone makes brazil higher than most of europe. It's just due to russian women viewing east asian men without stereotypes. Ok, let's suppose 2005 then. China is definitely richer than Russia today. It seems conceivable that Chinese business me… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/06/19 12:14 AM |
| 3 | In a Norwegian study, female students were choosier about attractiveness for short-term dating than men (Bendixen et al. 2019)Negotiation of sex is much more complicated in humans than in other primates (except for the most attractive and promiscuous individuals), mostly because of female gossip, female choosiness, as well as questions of inheritance and responsibility. Sexual norms are a human universal for this reason. Very lax sexual norms likely hinder progress. Stricter norms enable progress, but also do not guarantee it. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 12:17 PM |
| 3 | IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS IN DATING BEHAVIORFunny how these insights are half a century old, but more recent studies seem to sell them as novelties. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 10:22 AM |
| 1 | IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS IN DATING BEHAVIORhttps://capitalizemytitle.com/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 10:10 AM |
| 2 | IMPORTANCE OF PHYSICAL ATTRACTIVENESS IN DATING BEHAVIORA.k.a. the "Walster computer dating study". Previously posted here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b0zajz/women_judge_and_value_men_based_on_physical/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 10:07 AM |
| 3 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceby the 1960s, as well as female liberation The effects of female liberation (and no-fault divorce and the contraceptive pill) only came into effect to noticeable extent in the late 1960s: https://youtu.be/4wpca1ZDIRQ?t=1318 Also, AMWF is more common than vice versa in russia, which i remembered rght now this needs to happen, yeah Russian AMWF couples after ~2000 can readily be explained by hypergamy: https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&m… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 09:55 AM |
| 6 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersSeems also plausible. The effect I mentioned probably affects most competitive domains by now and it's not new. E.g. arts, music, science have been affected by this for at least half a century, but it is novel that it affects something as personal as partner choice in a very superficial/lookist manner which may make it special. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 07:34 AM |
| 8 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersPossibly increased prevalence of UWCBs among men could potentially be explained by the rise of lookism: Men more rarely can impress with higher income, so looks become more important. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 07:12 AM |
| 2 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersThe study reports prevalence of 36.4% among male app users and 3.8% among male non-app users. Still amazingly high for app users! See my sibling comment to yours for more info. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 07:10 AM |
| 2 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersIf I'm reading the results correctly, it is indicating that men are using dating apps are 14x more likely to use diet pills and anabolic steroids, and 10x more likely to use laxatives... Higher odds. You can see in Table 1 that around 3.8% of male non-app users use anabolic steroid, but 36.4% of male app users. 14.39 higher odds, 9.52 times as likely: Odds ratio = OR = (76 / 133) / (16 / 403) = 14.39 Risk ratio (or relative risk) = RR = (76 / (76 + 133)) / (16 / (16 + 403)) = 36.4% / 3.8 % = 9.5… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominancei don't think it implies that, otherwise the whole thing would probably be a lot more equal True. But it is possibly still lower than the actual value actual value due to adjustment. It would also be all age groups, not 20-30. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25982160 Some more meta studies on grip strength are here (plus in the comments). One should maybe consult HBD archives too. I would find it surprising if nobody had studied racial differences in physical strength in a more controlled se… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 02:09 AM |
| 2 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceI know it seems stupid but how do you know this? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/576774106704510983/585134319153184828/image0.jpg "Grip strength adjusted for age and height" means they have changed the grip strengths somehow (that alone makes it bad for comparison). It likely refers to the means of the countries, i.e. e.g. Netherlands would be adjusted to have less grip strength as they are the tallest country. There was more cantonese men married to white women than vice versa as late … | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominancethat just means it is average, hence why they did not include age They wrote "adjusted", which means the numbers are changed such that differences in age and height do not affect grip strength. It is the dominant hand. Not everyone is right handed. But my reference values have been for the right hand. Which is suitable for comparison as in both population it is for 90% the dominant hand. Australia is the same as Japan https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3101655/ Thanks for linking this … | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/06/19 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceWhat is your source that they changed grip strength? They stated they controlled for height and age right in the graph that you have linked to. All the studies of european males in the 20-30 age range i've found are around 50kg (give or take) grip so you might be misunderstanding it. Japanese males in that same age range are like I said, around 47kg. Please provide links to those studies. Make sure it is right hand, healthy subjects and ideally published around 2008. Mongoloids have the most rob… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominancethe average height for a 60 year old white male is like 5'10 while a japanese 60 year old male is more like 5'4. not very comparable. Source? they didn't tweak the grip strength's at all "Controlling X for Y" means changing X such that it does not change when changing Y, so they did change grip strength. I.e. they have made taller societies weaker to avoid differences in tallness affecting grip strength. However the actual strength and height is what is interesting as it determines mating outcom… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 08:49 PM |
| 7 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersThey observed more harmful behavior in men as well: Men who use dating apps had 3.2 to 14.6 times the odds of engaging in all six UWCBs compared to men who were non-users. Women who use dating apps had 2.3 to 26.9 times the odds of engaging in all six UWCBs compared to women who were non-users. Though e.g. anorexia nervosa (strong desire to be thin) is about 10 times more common in women in the first place. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/(SICI)1098-108X(199912)26:4%3C397::AID-EA… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominance40+ year old japanese males are smaller than young ones by quite a long way. Older Caucasians are also shorter, but not much. I definitely agree younger cohorts would make a better comparison, but I could not find a large sample. not sure what they mean by that as all the results stayed the same as other tests. Not sure what you mean by that. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominance20-60 is far too broad Though it would be broad for both, hence fairly comparable. It came from here for canadians. This graph is controlled for height and age, hence not comparable. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 03:05 AM |
| 25 | People who use dating apps are more likely to have eating disordersMakes sense: Pooling from a larger pool raises the standards. Higher standards and uncertain status cause anxiety about failure, narcissism, perfectionism and obsessive-compulsive behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/boxazl/millennials_are_becoming_more_perfectionistic/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17548138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18125426 | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceAbove I looked at ages 20-60 because for 20-30 the sample size is just N = 66. For males aged 20-30 it would still be something like d = 0.77 to d = 0.83 between your data (from 2009) and the reference values for Caucasians in my post above (from 2008). Recently, there has been a decline in grip strength, likely because of technology use, so I do not know where you obtained you reference values for Canadians and U.S. Americans, but they may be lower because they are more recent. https://www.npr.… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceThanks for this additional source. As far as I can tell, though, the average for the age groups 20-60 is 45.58 kg for the right hand, so not significantly different. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 01:22 AM |
| 4 | The gender gap in new intermarriages of U.S. born Asians has widened substantially from M 46% vs F 49% in 1980 to M 38% vs F 54% in 2015Please share. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/06/19 01:17 AM |
| 2 | The much louder and complex female copulatory vocalizations in humans, primates and other animals, may serve to stimulate the mating partner or to incite male competition (Hamilton & Arrowood, 1978)They offer several hypotheses in explanation of coital vocalizations of primates on page 1407 pp. A primate is any member of lemurs, monkeys, and apes, with the latter category including humans. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/06/19 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Relations between cultural complexity and sexual normsAll definitions are arbitrary. You need to specify in what sense you think it is limited/violates factors that you would judge as more relevant, otherwise your comment is just a commonplace. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Relations between cultural complexity and sexual normsIt was an appeal to smartness not authority. Ability does correlate with smartness. Also I did not say that's the best argument, I also linked to a more recent article that discusses it. So stop being such a grumpy cunt. At least read the literature and see whether there is something wrong with the scale before you write low effort one-liner comments. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Relations between cultural complexity and sexual normsIMO the graphs should have a rather calming effect on culture war as they show that stricter norms do not guarantee improvements (the typical tradcon's mental model is probably a r = .7 correlation or so!), also that high complexity can go along with relaxed norms under certain circumstances. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 03:24 PM |
| 11 | The much louder and complex female copulatory vocalizations in humans, primates and other animals, may serve to stimulate the mating partner or to incite male competition (Hamilton & Arrowood, 1978)From the conclusion: Human and primate copulatory calls are elaborations of the rhythmic, rapid breathing associated with intense sexual activity. For the three species described, the copulatoty vocalizations of females are more complex than those of males and begin earlier in the copulatory sequence. Because of the wide range of ecological and social situations among primates, as exemplified by the three species studied here, unitary explanations of the adaptive significance of copulatory vocal… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 02:40 PM |
| 2 | Relations between cultural complexity and sexual normsIt is comprised of the following variables: http://eclectic.ss.uci.edu/~drwhite/worldcul/stds06.cod Here is a review from 2004: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1069397103257895 | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Relations between cultural complexity and sexual normsHave you quantified the strength of the correlations you assert are there? Yes, they are all significant, but small (around r = .3). Why no regression? Pearson? R2? Correlation is not very informative in this case because of the heteroscedasticity. (Strict norms are clearly no guarantee for cultural complexity, so low complexity cultures with strict norms reduce the effect I'm interested in substantially). I did not have the time to research how to deal with it as this was just a weekend project… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/06/19 12:22 PM |
| 9 | Just as a reminder: All OKCupid blog articles have been archived hereThe title makes no mention of humans at all. It says "in the animal kingdom" which is perfectly accurate. There have been other submissions to this sub about the sexual behavior of other species that are also only vaguely related to humans via Bateman's principle & Co., e.g. fish and mice. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/06/19 02:26 AM |
| 17 | Just as a reminder: All OKCupid blog articles have been archived hereSpeaking of censorship, it seems someone is starting to remove submissions, and what's worse, without notice. E.g. I cannot seem to find this thread anymore in the search: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bpaply/one_of_the_main_purposes_of_much_louder_female/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/05/19 04:36 PM |
| 3 | [Question] Sex life difference same woman with unattractive vs attractive man?Women who perceive that other women assess their partner as more attractive are morelikely to report copulatory orgasm. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b72nv6/female_copulatory_orgasm_and_male_partners/ Though this should raise the question: Is women's moaning louder the less attractive the partner? Studies have indicated that most copulatory vocalizations in women do not accompany their own orgasm, but rather their partner’s ejaculation (perhaps the right time to incite sperm… | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/05/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Let's discuss looksmatch. This time with some science behind it.The attempt to date up with large desirability gap could result in harsh rejection and losing one's face (esp. losing reputation of being reliable and of making realistic choices in control of one's urges), so the benefits of getting good looking genes cannot make up for the decreased reproductive success by lowered status, especially since looks are only weakly correlated with other desirable things like locomotion efficiency, fertility, health and ability. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/05/19 11:30 AM |
| 4 | Independently rated facial and body attractiveness correlates* with the number of Short-term, but not Long-term, sex partners for men; facial attractiveness correlates* with Long-term, but not Short-term, sex partners for women (*p | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/05/19 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Humorous males are ascribed higher status, while humorous females are ascribed lower status (Evans et al. 2019)Perhaps evidence that intelligence evolved mainly through selection of males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/05/19 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Black Pill Books (Reading - List - Beginner)This one sounds fairly good on the surface as it is parasite aware, published a bit before peak PC and it seems a bit Good Genes skeptic, but unfortunately, it is also outdated regarding Good Geners vs Fisherians and cites pseudoscience on fluctuating asymmetry and health. Let me repeat: Good Genes theory is completely bonkers and has been thoroughly invalidated since. The author also falls victim of female virtue signaling: Men consistently place physical features above personality and status w… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/05/19 04:02 PM |
| 20 | The gender gap in new intermarriages of U.S. born Asians has widened substantially from M 46% vs F 49% in 1980 to M 38% vs F 54% in 2015Indian females are much more likely to inmarry, so they reduce the gap when subsuming all the different Asian groups. Here are statistics of actually married couples (rather than newlyweds): https://imdiversity.com/villages/asian/by-the-numbers-dating-marriage-and-race-in-asian-america/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/05/19 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Black Pill Books (Reading - List - Beginner)Btw, Human Ethology (Foundations of Human Behavior) is pretty good: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074VCJW21 | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 11:32 PM |
| 9 | The gender gap in new intermarriages of U.S. born Asians has widened substantially from M 46% vs F 49% in 1980 to M 38% vs F 54% in 2015Even though this is true, it seems the main change here is that Asian men (probably most East Asian men) have become less desirable, and it only increased mildly for the Asian women. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 10:05 PM |
| 28 | The gender gap in new intermarriages of U.S. born Asians has widened substantially from M 46% vs F 49% in 1980 to M 38% vs F 54% in 2015Note that this does not differentiate between East Asians and Indians. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Black Pill Books (Reading - List - Beginner)Natural selection and social theory, Trivers, 2002 Evolutionary Aesthetics The Mating Mind, Geoffrey Miller, 2001 These seem outdated as all of them cover "good genes". The good genes theory of mate choice is dead because looks are not well enough correlated with qualities that are helpful for survival, e.g. health, locomotion efficiency, maximal IQ etc. This suggests, looks are mostly a result of Fisherian runaway. Also, explaining it in terms of female choice and sexy sons is silly as women ar… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 05:53 PM |
| 5 | Black Pill Books (Reading - List - Beginner)I have linked some literature in this compilation of compilations: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a80wce/the_ultimate_physical_attractiveness_compilation/ However, I'm not aware of any book that is truly non-bluepilled, yet adheres to high scientific standards. There is of course plenty of non-scientific truly blackpilled literature, especially old literature, e.g. Sex and Character and Sex and Culture come to mind, suggesting that the intellectual conflict between bluepill a… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 03:34 PM |
| 4 | Independently rated facial and body attractiveness correlates* with the number of Short-term, but not Long-term, sex partners for men; facial attractiveness correlates* with Long-term, but not Short-term, sex partners for women (*p | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 01:16 PM |
| 3 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmLastly, and I mentioned this before, women are expected to agree less in the upper extreme because they have a stronger preference for their own race as was shown in various blog posts by Christian Rudder, but the sample by Wood et al. is a highly heterogenous sample regarding race (it seems they've sampled each race uniformly, but they don't state that clearly. Anyhow, at least 27% of the sample were non-white). I think on OkCupid, people tend to rate people of their own race more often as they… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 01:10 PM |
| 8 | Women who perceived themselves as more attractive than their mates more strongly resisted mate guarding and reported less commitment, more flirting with other men, more appealing dating alternatives, and more frequent thoughts about breaking up, reports a survey study (N=692) (Fugère et al, 2015)AFAIK this is rare evidence of hypergamy regarding looks. In terms of messaging patterns in online dating both sexes aim higher to roughly the same degree, but who they then mate with may be a different matter with women also more rarely dating down in looks. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/05/19 12:32 PM |
| 5 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmwomen are attracted to feminine personality in [...] men This sub is full of evidence that women prefer disagreeable, non-smiling, dark triad men who also care for them, so this is either an outlier or outright virtue signaling. women agree far less on which men are attractive The following study seems to conclude exactly the opposite, btw., which is in agreement with the other things I wrote: Results suggest a large sex difference in trait perception; when women rated men, they agreed in their … | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 11:50 PM |
| 9 | Independently rated facial and body attractiveness correlates* with the number of Short-term, but not Long-term, sex partners for men; facial attractiveness correlates* with Long-term, but not Short-term, sex partners for women (*p | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 10:51 PM |
| 4 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmAlso objective in that good health typically is linked with attractiveness Health and physical attractiveness are not strongly linked. That's a main reason why beauty can likely mostly be attributed to Fisherian runaway selection and sensory bias rather than it being an honest signal of overall health. Male attractiveness is also considerably less agreed upon As I wrote above, this is likely a reflection of women being much more choosy rather than them having a more diverse taste. A male above 6… | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 08:37 PM |
| 7 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmI noticed this too, but I suspect there simply were not very attractive people in this sample. Data from online dating suggest that 10/10 women and 8/10 men do exist, for ratings to average to such high numbers they all/mostly need to be near the upper end of the scale and hence agree a lot: https://i.imgur.com/irEtxwc.png There are two explanations for why 10/10 men do not exist or are exceedingly rare: Bluepilled: Women have more diverse preferences. Blackpilled: Women respond much more negati… | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 05:02 PM |
| 6 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmI guess average range leave more room for preference (bias). People can only get this much attracted or repulsed. Think of the extreme where someone ticks all boxes for (un)attractiveness, then nearly everyone feels their attraction/repulsion maxed out, so the ratings agree. | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 11:15 AM |
| 22 | "The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" vs. Back-propagation algorithmBeauty is both subjective and objective. Beauty is objective because people have neural circuits in their brains that detect beauty which evolved by Fisherian runaway. Beauty is also objective in that brains find simple shapes universally appealing and beautiful things tend to have simple, elegant shapes. But at the same time, beauty is subjective in that the aforementioned circuits do not grow in exactly the same way in everyone and that personal experience and culture also determine preference… | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/05/19 02:03 AM |
| 8 | The more attractive a man was judged to be, the less likely women were to intend to use a condom during sex (r = -0.552, df = 478, p = .007), finds a survey study of women, age 18–32 years old (n=480) (Eleftheriou et al., 2019)Some people seem to genuinely believe that women do not care about physical attractiveness, or that they simply care a lot less about it. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/05/19 04:53 PM |
| 5 | Who Has More Sex, Married People or Single People?Thanks especially for that last link. My favorite explanation is the woman becomes familiar with their man's weaknesses which destroys his high status cues. What other explanations have been proposed in the literature? | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/05/19 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Women are happier without children or a spouse, says happiness expertWomen also work more, so a family becomes an additional burden. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/05/19 04:10 PM |
| 3 | Women are happier without children or a spouse, says happiness expertSounds plausible. Producing offspring is a lot of work and with welfare not even necessary as old-age provision. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/05/19 02:11 PM |
| 2 | The more attractive a man was judged to be, the less likely women were to intend to use a condom during sex (r = -0.552, df = 478, p = .007), finds a survey study of women, age 18–32 years old (n=480) (Eleftheriou et al., 2019)The correlation for men was also very high (r=−0.785, df=18, p<0.0001), and the correlations between men and women differ with p = 0.048. I wished they repeated the study on males with a larger sample. Edit: Correlation may not be the best statistic to capture differences e.g. in preference for the top X%. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/05/19 06:29 PM |
| 6 | The more attractive a man was judged to be, the less likely women were to intend to use a condom during sex (r = -0.552, df = 478, p = .007), finds a survey study of women, age 18–32 years old (n=480) (Eleftheriou et al., 2019)Another flaw of the halo effect is the relatively weak correlations between looks and health, and between looks and ability. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/05/19 04:44 PM |
| 11 | The hypothesis stating that females with borderline personality disorder represent an extreme form of female-typical behavior has been informally suggested following Baron-Cohen’s Extreme Male Brain theory of autism.Yeah, Baron-Cohen's E-S theory is bluepilled. BPD and especially histrionic disorder are overwhelmingly female disorders, but not because they maximize empathy. Women are actually not much more empathetic, if at all (think intrasexual competition and how they opportunistically switch mates). All their emotions are simply more extroverted in a childish manner. Their caring obsession with children is completely misleading. The extremes of both sexes have low empathy which makes sense in a world of… | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/05/19 01:11 PM |
| 6 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)Think about it. Lots of women are willing to engage with complete maniacs merely because of their dominance signals. This strongly suggests dominance is the most important part of it all, hence shaming male dominance (e.g. by nazi analogies) fits perfectly into the picture, explaining both decrease in delinquency and sex. With PC in the earily 90s, people have become very sensitive to this. Women also cannot deal with men's level of competitiveness in the workplace, as they cry too easily, so me… | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/05/19 10:57 PM |
| 1 | IQ vs number of children by sexSource: http://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-05-21-dysgenics/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/05/19 07:30 PM |
| 9 | Study on 60 000 + mens self reported sexual activity.Here are some more statistics from GSS of males aged 40+: cm in ft N average age % never married (95% CI) 147.3-167.6 58-66 4.8-5.5 50 54.6 34 (21, 47) 167.6-172.7 66-68 5.5-5.7 87 53.4 14 (7, 21) 172.7-175.3 68-69 5.7-5.8 77 54.9 17 (9, 25) 175.3-177.8 69-70 5.8-5.8 78 53.7 10 (4, 17) 177.8-180.3 70-71 5.8-5.9 88 54.9 12 (6, 19) 180.3-182.9 71-72 5.9-6.0 96 55.1 14 (7, 20) 182.9-188.0 72-74 6.0-6.2 169 53.9 11 (6, 16) 188.0-198.1 74-78 6.2-6.5 71 54.3 10 (3, 17) So it seems height does not matt… | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/05/19 03:43 PM |
| 3 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)I think the same emotion that is so irritating when a cute animal does not respond to innate human cues of play drive also motivates various kinds of racism and also explains why people cannot stand autists. Violations of cognitive ornament expectations. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/05/19 04:13 PM |
| 4 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)It is a common misconception that selection is random. Mutation is random, selection is not. Genetically encoding antlers easily requires several kilobits of information. Where do you think this information comes from? From a random mutation? The probability of a feature spontaneously evolving is exponentially small in its information content, i.e. 2-1000 ≈ 10-302, a.k.a. never. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/05/19 12:50 PM |
| 2 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)High intelligence is unnecessary for survival and sexual selection can explain adaptations that are more complex than necessary and more sexually attractive than necessary (think antlers). (Though, intelligence is not only due to sexual selection: Increased cultural complexity also selects for intelligence because intelligence determines the ability to outcompete other intelligent economic players and this likely had implications on offspring surivival, health, access to support, resources and k… | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/05/19 12:32 PM |
| 2 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)https://statisticsbyjim.com/regression/confounding-variables-bias/ I think intelligence and most of what defines neurotypical behavior was mostly sexually selected just like beauty (the rest is mostly about trust/predictability), so it is essentially largely something like beauty. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/05/19 10:54 AM |
| 6 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)Enormous? Not denying it exists, but Asian males seem to do well regarding SES, so it's unlikely enormous. Asian males are also around 1 SD weaker, and weaker males of all races are being picked at, so be careful to delineate this from racism. | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/05/19 01:35 PM |
| 5 | Relationship status and wellbeing correlate more strongly for men than for women, partly due to men’s stronger connection between relationship status and perceived social support (Stronge et al. 2019)Btw, I re-submitted this because of a typo. Sorry to those who commented in the now deleted thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bqnbac/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/05/19 12:37 PM |
| 1 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)Yes, neurotypicality is likely also an important omitted confounder which may also result in some bias. | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/05/19 12:33 PM |
| 3 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]It seems Unwin's predicted association between restricted extramarital sex and cultural complexity is not supported by cross-cultural data, but between restrictions of premarital sex and cultural complexity is: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/106939718001500302 as culture becomes more complex, premarital sex norms become more restrictive. The association between premarital sex norms and cultural complexity is also not very significant here (p = .027): https://www.jstor.org/stable/64… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 10:03 PM |
| 2 | In a Norwegian study, female students were choosier about attractiveness for short-term dating than men (Bendixen et al. 2019)I think PUAs are actually right that most people can learn to fake high status cues to great effect for short-term dating, though not sure about long-term dating. | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 06:16 PM |
| 4 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)I'd say it is mostly intrasexual competition. Girls are mean to one another. | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 05:31 PM |
| 3 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)But there's no real trends showing that male depression is on the rise any more than women. Actually Anxiety and depression is way up in women much moreso then men. Various things can explain this: Women are under much more pressure to succeed than ever. They need to manage work and family at the same time and diffusion of responsibility for domestic matters makes things harder to manage etc. Women's higher agreeableness makes it hard for them to negotiate good working conditions. Women also see… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 12:32 PM |
| 2 | For equal success with a white woman, an African-American needs to earn an additional $154,000; a Hispanic man needs $77,000; an Asian needs $247,000.but I simply can't find the paper. Anywhere It's this one by Hitsch et al. from the sidebar: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8a4pm7/how_much_money_do_you_need_to_make_in_order_to/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 12:00 PM |
| 4 | In a Norwegian study, female students were choosier about attractiveness for short-term dating than men (Bendixen et al. 2019)The first two p's refer to the test whether the r's were different from r = 0. The thrid p refers to the test whether r = .47 and r = -.12 are significantly different. p = 0.001 means 1 in 1000 experiments the difference would be at least as extreme, so a fairly reliable result. d refers to Cohen's d which measures how much two normal distribution are shifted relative to one another (think that graph from OkCupid where women rated men a lot worse). It's the difference of the means divided by the… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 11:31 AM |
| 6 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)There is lots of data. Women outcompeting men in education status comes to mind. Women entering traditionally male fields etc. I think when women achieve status in some field it tends to diminish the achievements of men because of stereotype that "even women with all their limitations can do it", same with children achieving something, which is why it is typically being frowned upon. Also the middle class is disappearing because tradititionally local middle class jobs have been outsourced, autom… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/05/19 11:24 AM |
| 11 | In a Norwegian study, female students were choosier about attractiveness for short-term dating than men (Bendixen et al. 2019)Imagine the obvious not being well documented until the late 2010s. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/05/19 10:18 PM |
| 4 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)Yeah, right. I think young people do not drink because of the overall inhibited activity levels which I already explained why I think they are inhibited. Centralization additionally increases the pressure to succeed because there are fewer positions with greater power and because people compare themselves to a greater pool of competitors. There was a recent study on /r/science on increased levels of perfectionism: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/boxazl/millennials_are_becoming_more_per… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/05/19 01:41 AM |
| 9 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)I think it's mainly males' broken opportunities for status. This is mostly caused by globalization/centralization and affirmative action for females, but quickly changing tech presumably also makes it hard to adapt to new status opportunities and provides convenient opportunities for coping at the same time, so I do think it plays a role albeit a small one. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/05/19 12:27 AM |
| 4 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)It was actually about 24% in 2017: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bmxu2n/around_24_of_us_couples_formed_between_2015_and/ But I agree that online dating is also not a cause. I'd bet it's mainly men's broken status opportunities. Globalization/centralization is also destroying these, so it was a simplification on my part that only feminists are at fault, but it's very tempting to blame them for everything as they did the same with men. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/05/19 12:24 AM |
| 26 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)Concretely, 28% of Asian-Americans, compared to 7–11% of young adults from other ethnic/racial backgrounds have never kissed. Unfortunately, they did not break down race by gender. The female OR is 0.99 (0.66, 1.50 95% CI), so it likely favors women as they underreport their sexual experience. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 04:33 PM |
| 14 | The strongest predictors of "never been kissed" include being introverted, neurotic, going to an honors college, and being Asian-American (Lefkowitz et al. 2018)In context of such summaries it's assumed that it only refers to the variables they measured. "Include" also suggests there are other predictors. Neuroticism is mostly signals of low status (anxiety, depression, self-consciousness, vulnerability) and depression also predicts poor sex life. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bd6aej/who_attains_social_status_effects_of_personality/ekzrl18/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 02:55 PM |
| 3 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)It's a matter of scale. Feminist ideology and PC collectivism was not firmly anchored in the education system and the media yet (PC was not popular until the 1990s). Few women had really equal opportunities in the 1970s. Today most women do. Income gender gap may be a good proxy for women's overall status: https://econofact.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/BlauGenderWEB.png https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/hua_hsu/cohen_doctorlawyer.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 12:18 PM |
| 4 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)They weren't all alpha wolves or chest-pounders. Some of them were George McFlys. Status was not necessarily in terms of physical dominance, but rather in competence e.g. hobbies, school achievements, also verbal dominance and disagreeableness. Nowadays women can also travel and have hobbies and they outcompete men intellectually because of affirmative action which reduces the opportunities for men to have something they can boast about, hence opportunities to achieve social status. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 11:22 AM |
| 5 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)suggest that young men are all terrified of being called names if they speak to a young woman. No, it's the entire path that leads up to it which is via dominance status. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 11:00 AM |
| 16 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)The crime rate is down, but women love criminals. Why is the crime rate down? Because men who approach women in the way they prefer to be approached are readily called rapists and wifebeaters etc. Also men who organize in dominance hierarchies are readily compared to nazis. As men are limited in their private space that much by collectivist shaming, their activity level decreases and they also engage less in crime, hence become less attractive to women. Simple as that. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 10:34 AM |
| 22 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)Forbidding rough-and-tumble play was just a solidification of an ideology that was already widely spread. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/files/2012/03/adhd_trends.jpg "What am I going to do tonight?" And often the answer is: be at home with an electronic device. The point is that males would absolutely do things to get sex if the entire way there was not paved with shame and awkwardness. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 10:18 AM |
| 28 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)I disagree. Feminism was fierce in the 70s; people still had lots of sex. I think the key difference is whether rough-and-tumble play was actively being prohibited. Also rape hysteria was definitely not as prevalent back then. It's also a difference of femnist ideology actually implemented in laws etc., vs it merely consisting of a bunch of lunatic women/cry babies. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=toxic+masculinity&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_u… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 10:03 AM |
| 46 | The percentage of U.S. 12th graders who ever go out on dates has declined from 86% in 1976 to 57% in 2016 (Twenge & Park 2017)Source: http://cds.web.unc.edu/files/2017/09/Twenge_et_al-2017-Child_Development.pdf Curious about the causes. Maybe measures against "toxic masculinity" have something to do with it, decreasing their freedom of dominance signaling etc., decreasing male status drive hence their attractiveness to women? There are likely many different causes involved, some rendering men less attractive (e.g. by decreased activity level and status drive), others make women more choosy and defer settling down (emph… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/05/19 09:44 AM |
| 10 | Men initiate sex more than three times as often as women do in a long-term, heterosexual relationship. However, sex happens far more often when the woman takes the initiative, suggesting it is the woman who sets limits, and passion plays a significant role in sex frequency, suggests a new study.Already discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bpd8bt/briffaults_law_basically/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 09:09 PM |
| 10 | Briffault’s Law basicallyThere was a recent study showing that among female students, freshmen have the most sex and it peters out after that. I may add the study later if I find it. This basically means women give out less sex over time (because men's demand is unlimited), and I think this is largely explained by women learning they gain leverage over men by holding back sex. Partly also because women become more educated and want a more educated mate, hence shrinking their pool of potential partners. Edit: Found it, b… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 09:09 PM |
| 18 | Briffault’s Law basicallyActual link to study: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332740498_How_Intercourse_Frequency_Is_Affected_by_Relationship_Length_Relationship_Quality_and_Sexual_Strategies_Using_Couple_Data Looks like a student sample aged 19-30. Several issues with this: Female academics think they need to initiate more because feminism tells them to. Also academia has ceased to enforce monogamy, so the foids more likely see Chad and thus females in this sample likely initiate sex more often than the gener… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 06:32 PM |
| 3 | One of the main purposes of much louder female copulatory vocalizations in the animal kingdom is the induction of mate guarding behavior in males and attraction of high ranking mates who can prevent intercourse with the initial partnerThanks, very interesting. Edit: I think Greg's thoughts do not render the things I've written here implausible unless a single Genghis Khan could have caused this pattern. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 01:25 PM |
| 6 | One of the main purposes of much louder female copulatory vocalizations in the animal kingdom is the induction of mate guarding behavior in males and attraction of high ranking mates who can prevent intercourse with the initial partnerI did not mean it that literally. Seems plausible that dual mating was common among the first farmers (though dual mating was probably not very common before or after that as non-paternity rates are low among hunter-gatheres and modern civilizations, AFAIK). Still, the power from owning the means of production probably allowed these large inequalities to occur. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 01:24 PM |
| 16 | One of the main purposes of much louder female copulatory vocalizations in the animal kingdom is the induction of mate guarding behavior in males and attraction of high ranking mates who can prevent intercourse with the initial partnerThere is some evidence that pregancy is actually more likely to occur by rape. Also the 1:17 thing likely came probably from extremely powerful farmers monopolizing lots of females and letting everyone else starve, as it conincided with the invention of farming. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 12:00 PM |
| 23 | One of the main purposes of much louder female copulatory vocalizations in the animal kingdom is the induction of mate guarding behavior in males and attraction of high ranking mates who can prevent intercourse with the initial partnerEdit: Note that this is about females in the animal kingdom overall. It's unknown to which extent female copulatory vocalizations in humans have the same or related purposes, or whether they have a purpose at all (they may merely be a functionless vestige). From the subsection about human female copulatory vocalizations: the man typically finds the woman’s vocalization arousing and highly exciting, and the woman herself is aware of this This supports what I've suspected for a while (or read some… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 11:04 AM |
| 6 | Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivityPrevious discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/ar883t/women_get_bored_with_sex_in_longterm_relationships/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 12:24 AM |
| 7 | Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivityI doubt it. SJWs and feminists have already squandered their power and reputation by their lying and biases. Also, admitting women more choosiness would contradict the egalitarian idea at the core of SJ as it would obviously be unequal. It's a very weak position. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/05/19 12:08 AM |
| 6 | Women’s preferences for men’s facial masculinity were stronger in countries with better ecological conditions and where women engaged in short-term relationships (Marcinkowska et al. 2019)They should have maybe controlled for age of menarche: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1474704916637876 | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 10:24 PM |
| 3 | Doing some math on that Belgian Tinder study to get meaningful numbers and confidence intervals (also adjusting for women lying about their sexual behavior)Yes, seemingly especially for casual sex. It seems only a minority engages in such relationships. Belgium may not be perfectly representative of the U.S. though. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Teenage boys with ADHD are much more successful with girls than their non-mentally ill peersPsychopaths are also often depressed, but those are likely unattractive to women. Psychopathy is sometimes related to narcissism which is related to low stress reaction and low suicide risk. (All of dark triad (psychopathy, narcissism and manipulativeness) and related paricularily male mental diseases ADHD and ASD have low empathy in common). (I think the best theory is that depression is plainly a low status signal (but it can also be elicited by a defect). Low status individuals with high acti… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Women have higher minimum mate selection standards across most dimensions. Women's standards increase with their self-perceived mate value while men’s standards don’t (Regan 1998)I was referring to Table 1 and the paragraph that discusses in which there is no significant difference for short-term but only for long-term dating. I have not checked their methodology, so not sure how reliable that actually is. I do think women are actually a bit more picky about looks. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 04:32 PM |
| 5 | Teenage boys with ADHD are much more successful with girls than their non-mentally ill peersThere are studies on dark triad and attractiveness, but not sure whether they have focused on activity level (which seems to be strongly related to psychopathy). I think all of those are just costly signals of high status and activity level seems like the most costly and reliable one (you can be manipulative and low empathy even with low status, but maintaining high activity is really hard, especially when depression sets in, but psychopaths often seem to have a defect and/or adaptation that it … | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Number of women killed by homicide grew by 21 percent, says new studyI was referring more to the secular decline in crime in general and the knock on effects this would therefore have on domestic violence. I see. I was thinking of the reverse, the effect of regulating people's very private spaces by collectivism, on how they behave in general. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 04:00 PM |
| 3 | Number of women killed by homicide grew by 21 percent, says new studyProbably plays a role. But the toxic masculinity meme has got to be a strong one too. The collectivism that keeps male violence in check (which has been accomplished by enforced monogamy before the sexual "revolution") has increased drastically, leading to men who are receptive to such kind of threats even being afraid of talking to women etc. Laws are stacked against men and the social repercussions of being a woman beater etc. are severe, pretty much on the level of murderer etc. pp. It seems … | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Cross-culturally, women would consent to sex much later after meeting someone and they universally prefer partners with a good financial prospect (Buss & Schmitt 1993)Indeed, hypergamy is hard to discern from a systemic dependence on men and a more recent study by Buss and others also showed a (small) negative relationship with GEI (but it never diminished): https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/Conroy-Beam-sexual-dimorphic-2015.pdf Though, there is a host of evidence that women prefer better earning men even if they are finacially independent, see for example this recent survey study also by Buss et al.: https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-1… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Cross-culturally, women would consent to sex much later after meeting someone and they universally prefer partners with a good financial prospect (Buss & Schmitt 1993)Free PDF is available here: https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/09/SexualStrategiesTheory.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 01:28 PM |
| 10 | Number of women killed by homicide grew by 21 percent, says new studyThis is misleading because it only compares two years without context of the overall trend over many years. It looks like this in the U.S.: https://familyinequality.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/ipv-trend.jpg If it is now back to 2007 levels, that looks like within range of random fluctuations. Is anyone aware, what caused the violence rates to go down as much since 1990? Harsher punishment? Domestic violence appears to have peaked around 1985 after having risen considerably, coniciding with the s… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 12:16 PM |
| 5 | Most female users of job-search website Shiftgig successfully rely on their looks to outcompete men and receive more interview requests.I haven't read the book entirely yet, but I don't think it mentions how the ratings were done exactly, though probably with a ten point Likert scale. IIRC on OkCupid very highly rated individuals were notified which may have influenced the ratings. Generally, attractiveness ratings are very objective in the extremes, and more subjective/individual in the mid range. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/agq1vo/how_much_deviation_is_there_between_relative/ee8rl2f/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/05/19 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Most female users of job-search website Shiftgig successfully rely on their looks to outcompete men and receive more interview requests.Maybe the interviewers were judging in an unnatural way because they faced the interviewee directly. The scale also possibly does not handle ceiling effects very well because it only goes from "unattractive" to "attractive" (not to "very attractive"). 6% were rated as maximally attractive. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 10:49 PM |
| 3 | Most female users of job-search website Shiftgig successfully rely on their looks to outcompete men and receive more interview requests.I only know of ALLBUS (variable xr14). (Tangential, but that reminds me that xr14 has a weird distribution with weird clipping at the higher end and nearly no sex differences (even when interviewer sex is chosen as the opposite sex). Maybe I did not weigh the data correctly though, or something similar. More likely an amateur mistake than an issue with the dataset.) | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Interesting question. Unfortunately, I know very little about the correlates of everyday behavior and such desires. I could imagine that an intelligent man with a huge partner count could answer such a question. You'd need substantial anecdata to answer this after all. I don't know in which forums such men hang out. Maybe try /r/seduction? I'd expect a correlation between neuroticism/crying/childlike behavior and sexual submissiveness, but not sure. Please let me know if you find out more. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 09:51 PM |
| 1 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Sex and culture [electronic resource] Unwin, J. D. (Joseph Daniel), 1895-1936.; Unwin, J. D. (Joseph Daniel), 1895-1936 Publication date 1934 Amazing source. Are you aware of a summary of the more empirical parts of it? It looks like the guy studies many cultures. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 05:36 PM |
| 37 | Most female users of job-search website Shiftgig successfully rely on their looks to outcompete men and receive more interview requests.That's from Dataclysm, page 119. It should be noted though that correlations of income and attractiveness are not nearly as exaggerated as the graph above suggests, neither for men or women (about r = .2). For most jobs attractiveness opens doors, but competence is what decides who stays in. The free market still works well enough to be not completely lookist. Another graph from the same page shows that the most attractive Facebook users have 1.86 times as many friends as the least attractive us… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Doing some math on that Belgian Tinder study to get meaningful numbers and confidence intervals (also adjusting for women lying about their sexual behavior)In case of the Tinder study, experimental group (E) to females, and control group (C) to males, event (E) refers to some behavior like engaging in casual sex, and (N) to not engaging in causal sex. So EE is the number of females who engaged in casual sex. EN those that did not. CE and CN is the same for males. _E = Exposure _N = Not exposure E_ = Experimental group C_ = Control group EE = females doing X EN = females not doing X CE = males doing X CN = males not doing X For conclusion look at th… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Serial monogamy (multiple marriages over the lifetime) increases reproductive success in men but not in women (Jokela et al., 2010)Serial monogamy is de facto polygyny. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 11:55 AM |
| 5 | In a large forensic hospital, 39% of psychopathic patients had a consensual sexual relationship with female staff members (Gacono et al., 1995)So funny what blissfully bluepilled literature makes of this anecdote: Some clinicians are strongly drawn to patients with ASPD or psychopathy, and provide an eager audience for these patients to regale with their prowess and exploits. Such an idealizing countertransference can also be sexualized, which may invite an exceedingly dangerous encounter, especially between a male patient with psychopathy and a female psychotherapist. Young mental health professionals will often be enamored with crimi… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 11:13 AM |
| 2 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Physical fitness and the ability to survive are what creates attractiveness here. Nope, it's likely mostly about ruthless, dominant behavior. More evidence is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/afwikq/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/aynmvq/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b1ue1v/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b15g5n/ https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf http://doi.… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/05/19 10:13 AM |
| 5 | Women have higher minimum mate selection standards across most dimensions. Women's standards increase with their self-perceived mate value while men’s standards don’t (Regan 1998)Free PDF available here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254380813_Minimum_Mate_Selection_Standards_as_a_Function_of_Perceived_Mate_Value_Relationship_Context_and_Gender | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)To access the population of interest, Facebook sam-pling was used as Tinder users are required to have aFacebook account. Two graduate students assisted indata collection and administrators of popular Facebookpages (e.g., confessions pages, popular magazines) wereasked to spread the survey link on their Facebook pageto reach a large and distinct population of Tinder users.Facebook has often been successfully employed as aresearch tool for social scientific research, as it offers acheap and fast … | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 10:10 PM |
| 3 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]However, your understanding is correct in the sense that women have always chosen the winners, just not through wars but through comparing the competence of one man against another in terms of fitness, intelligence, popularity etc. No, women get excided by conflict and male bravery etc. https://faculty.washington.edu/hechter/KanazawaPaper.pdf https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513815000239 Women have a constant urge to provoke male intrasexual competition. To some extent this… | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 07:43 PM |
| 3 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Had women women settled with useless or fit guys, because they were “nice guys” and fell in love with them and were not thinking, we would have perhaps been still living in caves and with underdeveloped brains. I think eugenics to this extent were largely cancelled out by the fact that women with poor genes reproduced a lot more often than men with bad genes. So in effect, female choosiness seems more parasitic than beneficial. Also, human progress was frequently set back by wars and women certa… | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 06:27 PM |
| 1 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Completely agree. I did not say the tamps were not fine men. I think alignment is mostly determined by incentives anyhow. If they were bad people it was mostly because life did not give them a chance to be good people. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 05:47 PM |
| 23 | Women have higher minimum mate selection standards across most dimensions. Women's standards increase with their self-perceived mate value while men’s standards don’t (Regan 1998)Most notably, standards for looks in short-term mating are not significantly different for men and women. For long-term mating women have significantly lower preference for looks, but it's not a large difference and there is no proof that this isn't just virtue signalling. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 05:36 PM |
| 2 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Quite frankly, I am not sure what you are trying to say. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 05:33 PM |
| 2 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]This is why we live in an advanced society with all the technological advancements we see around us. Not sure what's the relevance of this. Lots of influential physicists and engineers had rather poor reproductive success because they were completely autistic. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 05:04 PM |
| 4 | The Evolution of Female Coyness – Trading Time for Information (Wachtmeister 1999)The same, but formalized with game theory: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23763957_The_optimal_coyness_game (McNamara 2009) | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 12:14 PM |
| 62 | Teenage boys with ADHD are much more successful with girls than their non-mentally ill peersI think this is largely an unintended side-effect of the toxic masculinity meme. As men are being shamed to be nice and all sorts of mild cruelty is readily compared to fascism, rough-and-tumble play is being heavily discouraged, etc., then naturally males with very low inhibition and low empathy levels who do not care about such memes at all (frequently overdiagnosed with "ADHD"), end up dominating and getting all the chicks. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 11:28 AM |
| 15 | The Evolution of Female Coyness – Trading Time for Information (Wachtmeister 1999)Not only does waiting yield more information, it also increases the chances of attracting a better mate in the meanwhile. It also seems information more than looks are mostly only needed if the man seems initially unattractive (solid evidence for Fisher's sexy son hypothesis): https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8aymto/women_make_unattractive_men_wait_length_of_time/ Historical civilizations probably did not allow females to choose their mates because their choosiness is just too … | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/05/19 11:05 AM |
| 6 | Around 24% of U.S. couples formed between 2015 and 2017 met through online dating sites and apps (Reuben 2019)Table 6.2 is only participants who were single at the time of the survey. An obvious explanation is then that the single females have more likely met men who are currently not single, which is in line with chadsexuality, mate-choice copying, hypergamy etc. The same table also states that single women have a lower rate of going to dates (11.4% vs 18.7%), hence there are possibly more men on online dating sites, so women who do go on dates have an easy time finding a partner due to a surplus of ma… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/05/19 10:03 PM |
| 11 | Around 24% of U.S. couples formed between 2015 and 2017 met through online dating sites and apps (Reuben 2019)Do you have any evidence for that? It should be a useful tool also for attractive sociable people as they can massively increase their reach and choose from a much larger pool of potential partners. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/05/19 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Around 40% of American couples now first meet onlineThis figure includes non-romantic ways of meeting online (e.g. in chats, games and social networks). It's around 25% through online dating in particular: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bmxu2n/around_24_of_us_couples_formed_between_2015_and/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/05/19 02:53 PM |
| 18 | Around 24% of U.S. couples formed between 2015 and 2017 met through online dating sites and apps (Reuben 2019)See page 21. The 40% figure previously mentioned included social networks, games, chats and other websites unrelated to dating: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bisybg/around_40_of_american_couples_now_first_meet/ The variables are described here: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vt073cc9067/How_Q24_was_coded%20for%20HCMST2017%201.2.pdf Another interesting insight from the same dataset for variables about dating activity in the last 12 months (for subjects without a curre… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/05/19 12:50 PM |
| 15 | The global scale of the skewed sex ratioA shrinking population can also cause a sex ratio imbalance in the mating market because men aged 20-40 compete for fertile women aged 20-30. Here are some countries for which this is the case (though it will also vary regionally, of course): https://www.populationpyramid.net/spain/2017/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/switzerland/2017/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/belgium/2017/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/canada/2017/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/croatia/2017/ https://www.popu… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/05/19 04:41 AM |
| 4 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)Here's a study with women underreporting about 25%, but men do not seem to overreport unless they are in a "threat condition". Accounting for this, the risk ratio for casual sexual relationships on Tinder should be around 3.25. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813768 | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/05/19 05:00 PM |
| 6 | [Heightpill] 90% of M’Ladies consider you too short if you’re 5’4” or less. 2/3rds of M’Ladies consider you too short if you’re 5’7” or less.Source: https://www.rug.nl/research/portal/files/6798184/2013AnimBehavStulp.pdf Some more relevant graphs from yesterday: https://i.imgur.com/oHTvExj.png https://i.imgur.com/NXHgZl9.png https://blogs.chapman.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/09/Sex-vs-height-740x315.jpg https://blogs.chapman.edu/crean/2015/09/29/new-research-analyzes-height-weight-income-and-more-in-regards-to-sex-and-dating/ It looks like between 170-190 cm (5'6-6'2), height does not matter very much in terms of partner coun… | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/05/19 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Height vs celibacyLooks correct to me. Without pooling it gets jagged and without confidence intervals it may give a false impression of trends where there are none. The peak is around 193 cm according to this graph, but that point above 95% in your graph seems to be an outlier. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)Yeah, good point. Though the only study that showed this bias did not have a large effect size, IIRC. The odds ratio (OR) of 2.72 is actually shown in table 2 and there are other interesting ORs regarding sex in Table 2. OR > 1 favors women, and OR < 1 favors men. 571 of the 1038 Belgian Tinder users (55%) had met a person through Tinder (OR 1.28). Of those, 23% had at least one one-night stand (M = 0.43, SD = 1.16), OR .72 31% engaged in a casual sexual relationship with another Tinder user (M … | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 08:16 PM |
| 15 | Women hate a man MORE if he apologizes for his actions, they hate him LESS if he does not apologizeLmao, they compared the responses to an apologetic statement and a non-apologetic one: Summers ended up apologizing for his statements.“I deeply regret the impact of my comments and apologize for not having weighed them more carefully,” Summers wrote in an open letter to the Harvard community. I was wrong to have spoken in a way that has resulted in an unintended signal of discouragement to talented girls and women. As a university president, I consider nothing more importantthan helping to crea… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Height vs celibacyThe pooling in my graph probably smoothes out some of the ripples that are visible in your graph. The upward trend at 74" in your graph is just noise. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 02:55 PM |
| 3 | Height vs celibacyI could not reproduce this exactly. Did you remove N/As? A 95% confidence interval shows that it could be both higher or lower in the extremes. Not enough data to tell for sure. https://i.imgur.com/NXHgZl9.png Edit: I made another one with number of sex partners (I imputed the partners variable with suitable values): https://i.imgur.com/oHTvExj.png Another similar graph is here: https://blogs.chapman.edu/crean/2015/09/29/new-research-analyzes-height-weight-income-and-more-in-regards-to-sex-and-d… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 02:06 PM |
| 8 | How does female attraction change during menstruation?Not much if at all. Atrocious replication record. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b3uoe0/no_evidence_that_women_using_oral_contraceptives/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/05/19 02:01 PM |
| 14 | In the 1960s, only 6% of 20-24 year-olds reported having no sexual partner since age 18, compared to around 30% today.Well, the 30% figure is based on GSS 2018 and has a large 95% confidence interval of 10%. Taken 2018 and 2016 together, it is 24±6%, so that is a more reliable figure, but still a large difference to the 1960s. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/19 11:15 AM |
| 85 | In the 1960s, only 6% of 20-24 year-olds reported having no sexual partner since age 18, compared to around 30% today./u/MMDT made a very succinct comment on this last week: The demand for sex from men is near-infinitely high. It always has been and always will be. The only limiting factor in how much sex we are having is how much women wish to give it out. […] Women are the ones who distribute sex and so if the supply of sex has fallen, we need to ask why are women giving out less sex. I will postulate this explanation: Women are less attracted to most men than they ever have been. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/19 10:34 AM |
| 9 | The original poster of and head of analytics at OKcupid explains the 80/20 rule in a interview from 2014.Everything is archived here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_archives/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/19 10:24 AM |
| 11 | The original poster of and head of analytics at OKcupid explains the 80/20 rule in a interview from 2014.Another very important point is that they let males rate other males with very similar demographics in an experiment and they did not rate each other as ugly as women rated men. Hence, it is not the case that men in online dating are ugly. It seems the rating patterns entirely boil down to female choosiness. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/19 09:24 AM |
| 3 | The original poster of and head of analytics at OKcupid explains the 80/20 rule in a interview from 2014.Christian did not say anything about the effect size. It could be small. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/05/19 09:23 AM |
| 20 | The original poster of and head of analytics at OKcupid explains the 80/20 rule in a interview from 2014.The host claimed that men would be visually stimulated more than women, but it seems there are two explanations that women are rarely aroused by men's looks: Women get less aroused by looks, Women are more choosy. I think both play a role, and the latter may actually play a larger role. Women may get just as aroused as men, but with higher beauty standards (which also implies greater disgust of ugliness), and hence more rarely. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/05/19 09:23 PM |
| 6 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)Yes, in terms of likes, but strictly speaking it was not known whether that would imply also large inequalities in the number of dates. It seems it does. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/05/19 10:38 AM |
| 1 | What's the science behind the rise of K-Pop? What is it doing so well to captivate girls in the West, that isn't being done by Western bands?As for the boy groups I think it's mainly marketing and the colorful, flashy style which has some novelty to it. More effective marketing may be explained by high IQ and a functional economy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/05/19 08:08 AM |
| 23 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)Are you aware that 172% higher means factor 2.72, so women are almost three times as likely to get causal sex from online dating, if I am not mistaken. Men are a lot more promiscuous, so one should actually expect men to have more casual sex with strangers from the Internet. Though apparently, this is offset by such a large margin by women's choosiness for particular high status men, that this sex ratio reverses even. I think it's a pretty substantial figure for this reason. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/05/19 11:14 PM |
| 9 | Based on self-reports by 1038 Belgian Tinder users, the odds of having casual sexual relationships with another Tinder user were 172% higher for women (Timmermans 2018)Edit: Here are some more statistics from the same study: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bnj3jj/doing_some_math_on_that_belgian_tinder_study_to/ The user sex ratio is about even on Tinder (if their reports can be trusted), so this is is possibly not due to sex ratio. https://www.bustle.com/articles/154205-heres-how-many-women-vs-men-use-tinder | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/05/19 10:37 PM |
| 1 | What's the science behind the rise of K-Pop? What is it doing so well to captivate girls in the West, that isn't being done by Western bands?I think K-Pop is so marketable because of the females. East Asian females are more feminine, weaker and smaller than Caucasian females, and they are not pressured to be strong and independent etc. They are cute, sexy and playful/naive, and that's what most men like and what is currently not served so much by Western media. Women in Western music are more "dominant sexy". | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/05/19 10:26 PM |
| 12 | Attractive men get away with shitty behaviour. Muh personalityIn the high violation, the perceptions of the facially attractive male’s personality (M = -.40, SD = 2.26) were significantly less negative ratings than the perceptions of facially unattractive male’s personality (M = -1.01,SD = 2.06), t(167) = -1.85, p < .05. So a small effect of around d = .3, but remember that this is a questionnaire and hypothetical situation based study, so who knows how big the difference is in real life. Social desirability bias could make the effect smaller than it is. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/05/19 11:02 AM |
| 1 | The wives of men in the Forbes 400 rich list are on average 7 years younger. Their second wives on average 22 years younger. (Pollet et al. 2013)This is their choice though. All kinds of choices are being regulated by norms and force so as to reduce inequalities. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/05/19 07:26 AM |
| 23 | Alcohol Alters Female Sexual Behaviour... of a fly. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/05/19 09:31 PM |
| 5 | The wives of men in the Forbes 400 rich list are on average 7 years younger. Their second wives on average 22 years younger. (Pollet et al. 2013)They have the ability to attract young women with their wealth. Good for them. Arguably, they rob women of the younger cohorts which are already undersupplied with women. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/05/19 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Infidelity in romantic relationships: Occurs in 20–25% of all marriages. Between 1991 and 2006, there has been an increase in rates of infidelity in all age groups, M > F gender gap is closing (Fincham & May, 2017)See table 1 for a good overview over facilitating factors of infidelity. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/05/19 09:18 AM |
| 17 | Both sexes achieved greater sexual satisfaction from sex with other partners but their long-term partner (Burch & Gallup, 2019)Humans are naturally moderately polygynous, but nonetheless they mostly form long-term pair bonds. A minority of men has multipe wives and produces most of the offspring, while most men have just one wife (around 65%?), and some no wife. Hence "mostly monogamous, moderately polygynous". This is consistent with there naturally being a ~2:1 or 3:1 reproduction sex ratio that one can infer from mitochondrial DNA and the Y chromosome, simply because some men have much more offspring and also a serie… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/05/19 11:52 PM |
| 6 | Both sexes achieved greater sexual satisfaction from sex with other partners but their long-term partner (Burch & Gallup, 2019)Not really. It seems humans are largely monogamous. This just provides more evidence that novelty is important and that females are more promiscuous than commonly assumed. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/05/19 05:04 PM |
| 2 | The link between a college education and a lasting marriageAcademic credentialism is a major pathway into most middle to upper-middle class jobs (even things like translator and assistant jobs) no matter how stupid the degree. High education status also allows women access to social networks with lots of high quality provider males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/05/19 09:44 AM |
| 3 | Study from another subThis entire booklet is only correlational. Either promiscous, low IQ(?) women have sex early, poor marriages and high rate of STDs, or early sex spoils the women, or both. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/05/19 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Unmarried college-educated women between the ages of 40 and 64 earn an average of 17.5 percent more than their male peersPrevious discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ae8ltu/why_single_women_are_way_more_likely_to_own_a/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/05/19 09:07 AM |
| 3 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)Good point. I wished they had asked mate vs kin explicitly. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/05/19 05:15 PM |
| 5 | Dutch paper-article about Online/App dating.male tinderaars have met on average just over three (3.3) sex partners through the app, while our female tinderaars have shared the bed with two (1.95) fellow users This sort of disagrees with numbers from HCMST, where women are 2.75 times more often get a date via dating apps than men. Among non-singles men get 1.25 times as many dates. This is IMO currently the best evidence of substantial inequality in actual dating outcomes in online dating (not just ratings and message ratios which are know… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/05/19 04:05 PM |
| 6 | Divorce rates increase when women become promoted (Folke and Rickne, 2018)This suggests otherwise: http://ftp.iza.org/dp11933.pdf Men even slightly prefer women who are better than them (in this case education status). It's women who are vey picky about it. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/05/19 08:23 AM |
| 7 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.It seems women are as choosy or even a bit more choosy about looks. They are more readily disgusted by ugliness (e.g. in a survey, 31% of males admitted that they would ignore/avoid someone of the opposite sex based upon their looks, compared to 70% of female respondents, source; women considered a "nice smile" as more important than personality), they also rate men consistently as less attractive, and gossip more about physical attractiveness (source). But men (women not so much) can make up fo… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/05/19 12:40 AM |
| 11 | The economic concept that explains why young people are having less sexAgreed, sexless females are more likely volcels. Changed the word to sexless. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/05/19 12:13 AM |
| 9 | The economic concept that explains why young people are having less sexfemale sexlessness has remained stable over the same time Totally agree with everything, but I think there is no evidence for this. In GSS, sexlessness has also increased significantly for females, but simply not as much as for males. https://i.imgur.com/07hwfGi.png I suspect sexless females tend to be better socially integrated, so they are not as noticeable and resentful. Also women have a ~4x lower sex drive, so they are possibly not so easily deprived of it. Engaging in sex appears to decrea… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Eating disorders in women positively correlated with intrasexual competitiveness for mates, and negatively with self perception of attractiveness (mating value). Eating disorders may have evolved as intrasexual mate competition taken to extremes. (Nettersheim et al. 2018)Amazingly interesting stuff, and funny too (rare skin condition -> socialism??). Other obvious factors for slow LH come to mind, e.g. future pessimism (environmentalism), fading economic growth, tradeoffs between investing in a career vs reproduction, increased standards and demands for the offspring (you should overhear what upper-middle class mothers-to-be talk about with each other, if you get the chance; absolute perfectionism), the latter point being seemingly a self-reinforcing result of s… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Eating disorders in women positively correlated with intrasexual competitiveness for mates, and negatively with self perception of attractiveness (mating value). Eating disorders may have evolved as intrasexual mate competition taken to extremes. (Nettersheim et al. 2018)Should we expect a simple theory to explain outcomes of feminist ideology put into practice? Females with high status are very artificial. Women have slow LH because they are choosy about finding even higher status men, and they have high IC because they compete for the few men who have not been made weak. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 07:15 PM |
| 1 | There are billions of people in the world, and 1.06 men to every 1 woman. That's a LOT of single men.Honestly, it was mostly stream of consciousness, and I did not put much thought into it. What I actually wanted to write about is that lots of the men between 20 and 40 compete for women in their early 20s, so the imbalance is even greater than the 6-7% birth ratio. Further, as there are fewer people born, there are even more men in the 20-40 bracket... But I somehow got lost in thoughts. In HCMST, there is actually no change in partner age gap between 2009 and 2017 (rather a narrowing). Though … | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)males dominate the public/political realm, given that plenty of societies are matriarchal "Today, anthropologists generally agree that cases of true matriarchy do not exist in human society, and that they most probably never have." https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2018/3/17/where-are-the-matriarchies wouldn’t men who do it to any especial degree be considered “pussies” Interestingly, the role assignment seems to be actually more strongly enforced by women, at least according to preferences … | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 11:13 AM |
| 8 | Divorce rates increase when women become promoted (Folke and Rickne, 2018)The male wants a functioning, stable, and sustainable society Conversely, women benefit from a halfway instable society, as it reorders the social hierarchies and they get a new chance to attract a high quality male with little effort (barring intrasexual competition). | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)we expect women to be sweet and maternal. Every single culture did that. See here: https://willsull.net/resources/HumanUniversals.pdf females do more direct childcare males dominate public/political realm Lots of men are also attracted to women who are sweet, well-behaved and childish. At this point it is really questionable whether this is cultural at all. The cultural component is small at best. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 08:17 AM |
| 1 | There are billions of people in the world, and 1.06 men to every 1 woman. That's a LOT of single men.It seems that this norm is critical in order to enforce monogamy in terms of low rates of serial monogamy. It seems more recently large age gaps are becoming more acceptable (not 100% sure though). It was coincidental that feminism enforced monogamy in this way (while destroying it in many other ways). | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/05/19 07:39 AM |
| 20 | Divorce rates increase when women become promoted (Folke and Rickne, 2018)Women more likely get devorced by 7 to 10 percentage points after their promotion. For men promotion has no effect on marriage stability. See especially figure 7 on page 19: https://i.imgur.com/4kFZSHK.png Edit: Also interesting that neither women's nor men's marriages are destabilized when households are more egalitarian in terms of having a small spousal age gap and a more gender-equal split of the parental leave. This suggests a selection bias that women in such marriages are less hypergamous… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 08:02 PM |
| 1 | In online dating, even the most attractive men barely receive as many messages as the most unattractive women.It's actually not zero, so there is no reliable evidence here that women only date the top X% in terms of looks. Men receive much fewer messages, but evenly across all levels of attractiveness. See this: https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a7zt4s | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 04:25 PM |
| 9 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)Often it takes years for a man to convince a woman to have sex with him. Men are more disposeable. Women can quite easily attract a new provider. The children in question were also rather young (1 and 5 years old). Also people are not rational about comparing different kinds of efforts (see sunk cost fallacy). Also it's not like men are willing to give up on their children easily, just more likely than women, so you do not even need a massive sex difference to explain this. Women are also more c… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 10:54 AM |
| 18 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)It is also much more costly for men to secure exclusive access to a high quality partner. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 10:41 AM |
| 26 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)For men producing more children is cheap. For women it is much more risky and metabolically costly. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Among 25-year-olds, 74% of men vs. 92% of women would save their offspring over their mate (Blasi et al. 2018)https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704918808864 Roughly d = 0.76. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.You're still wrong and the slope still doesn't matter in context. The slope may matter less if the attractiveness ratings do not include judgment of social status, which seems plausible. In either case, data from OkCupid do not prove that women go more for the top X% than men. There are lots of other data that suggest this is the case though (but the differences in GSS are also not large). That's an argument for creationism Lol. female beauty standards are a result of natural selection No, it se… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 09:47 AM |
| 2 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.it does, in any context, but especially in the existing context where women almost never message first No, only the slope matters. The question is how much do the sexes prefer more attractive people over less attractive ones. The slope tells you that. You need to educate yourself. Congentially blind men prefer the hourglass figure in females. This needs to come from somewhere. The notion that something like this can result from a mere fluke is implausible because it's too complex and the prefere… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.For analyzing the amount of lookism that the sexes execute, the overall messaging ratio for first messages does not matter. What matters is rather the slope regarding messages received and attractiveness of the receiver (not the y-intercept). That tells you how much the sexes favor attractive users over unattractive ones in terms of actual interactions (not just a rating). The obvious expectation is of course that women are more lookist (also due to the massive differences in coyness), but it's … | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/04/19 08:05 AM |
| 6 | Around 40% of American couples now first meet onlineEdit two weeks later: The 40% figure includes non-romantic ways of meeting online (e.g. in chats, games and social networks). It's around 25% through online dating in particular: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/bmxu2n/around_24_of_us_couples_formed_between_2015_and/ This seems like a high figure, but it does perfectly fit into the exponential growth curve in this graph (also based on HCMST). https://i.imgur.com/Hp0JTJx.png There was another survey done in 2017 of engaged peopl… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/04/19 07:59 PM |
| 20 | About 25% of Japanese adults in their 20s and 30s are virginsIn the U.S. it's 28% for males aged 18-30 (GSS, 2018). In Japan it is 25.8% for males aged 18-40 (2016). For 18-30 it is probably higher in Japan. | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/04/19 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.On a different dating website, the slopes regarding first messages are also not drastically different, see the last page here: http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/guenter.hitsch/papers/Mate-Preferences.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/04/19 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Giant compilation of BlackPill StudiesI've updated/corrected lots of my compilations in the meanwhile. For example the stuff with Billionaire and Pirate, but lots other things too. | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/04/19 12:25 PM |
| 3 | There are billions of people in the world, and 1.06 men to every 1 woman. That's a LOT of single men.Yeah, sufficiently horny males are willing to lower their standards a lot. Stephen Wolfram has computed some nice graphs of share of singles by age based on Facebook here: https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/data/uploads/2013/04/relationship-status-vs-age-grid3.png https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2013/04/data-science-of-the-facebook-world/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/04/19 07:42 AM |
| 8 | The Economics of HypergamyI think hypergamy in the board sense mainly follows from sex differences in parental investment. Males can afford to be promiscuous for various reasons: Sperm is much cheaper to produce than eggs, females more likely catch STDs because of the pocket shape of the vagina (the same applies to males engaging in anal sex), giving birth is costly and risky (maternal death rate used to be 10x higher), and the offspring is more dependent on mothers than on fathers and the human offspring is the most dep… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 08:01 PM |
| 22 | There are billions of people in the world, and 1.06 men to every 1 woman. That's a LOT of single men.What's worse, feminism has deferred marriage so much that, at the point most men have started dating and marrying, women of the same age are withered and overworked, so lots of those men then compete additionally for the few young and attractive ones. And this defers the marriage for lots of younger men even more because they face more competition, reinforcing this process even. At the same time, cultural degeneracy also makes large age gaps socially acceptable. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.Mainly that women rate men as less attractive There is lots of evidece for this elsewhere too: https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a91q82/are_sex_differences_in_attractiveness_ratings/ BTW, I don't see the downvotes I've seen it fluctuate somewhat, from 4 to 1, then back up to 6 currently, so probably around 25% downvotes (I know about vote fuzzing). | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.If attractive people use online dating less to actually get dates and to message strangers, then there would be less inequality in online than there actually is. I'd admit that it's not very likely (because lookism in online dating should also make it attractive to attractive people etc.). This was rather meant as an example of how messaging patterns can be biased and therefore one cannot conclude very much from OkCupid data. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.Which one? | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 01:19 PM |
| 13 | Anyone have a backup of the okcupid study that showed that 80% of women are pursuing 20% of the guys? The blog post has been taken down forever.https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_archives/ AFAIK, OkCupid has only sort of proven that women rate fewer men as attractive than vice-versa, but the interaction patterns wrt. attractiveness in terms of number of messages are very similar for both sexes regardless of that. Men simply receive much fewer messages, but evenly across all levels of attractiveness (probably mostly because females rarely ever initiate anything and have a lower activity level overall also in othe… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Being Single is the Strongest Social Risk Factor Among Suicides By MenI don't, that's why I used qualifiers like "may" and "should". | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/04/19 07:41 AM |
| 3 | Interesting. Men with more hair = smaller genitals.I think body height and the epicanthic folds, and maybe some subtle facial features are the only things that really correlate with the East Asian component. If East Asians would overall score higher on the down syndrom dimension, we should expect them to have lower IQ not higher, so I think this is a mischaracterization. Downies have very low IQ (avg. 50, and in 99% of cases there is mental impairment). | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/04/19 12:55 PM |
| 9 | Interesting. Men with more hair = smaller genitals.What the hell was the evolutionary selection pressure that made human dicks so huge compared to other primates? Fisherian runaway. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Interesting. Men with more hair = smaller genitals.And regardless this isn’t really even a conclusion you can draw from a study on primates They did include humans as a primate species, but this is about variation between species (species with ornamentation like e.g. beards vs species without ornament), not variation within species (not humans with beard vs humans without beard). Some "journalists" got this wrong. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 10:00 PM |
| 6 | Interesting. Men with more hair = smaller genitals.https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3470354-fake-news-why-men-with-beards-and-long-hair-have-the-smallest-testicles.html Yeah, it's shitty "journalism". But still an interesting result. In species with ornamentation, looks are such an important determinant of status that it can justify less energy spent on testicle size because the hierarchy enables exclusive access to females (no need for sperm competition). Ornament competition is also advantageous because it does not yield dangers of violent c… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Interesting. Men with more hair = smaller genitals.https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2018.2542 | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Parents more uncomfortable with gender-nonconforming behaviors in boys, study findsDoes anyone have access to the study? I would like to see the effect sizes. Someone on /r/scholar was so kind to send me a copy. Looks like a medium effect size, but they don't provide an effect size explicitly. Looks like fathers are rather the ones who are unconfortable with non-conforming boys. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 05:19 PM |
| 8 | Female Attraction to Psychopaths? | Did Jordan Peterson Misinterpret "A Billion Wicked Thoughts?"Summary and comment: Peterson basically got some info from "A Billion Wicked Thoughts" wrong. Peterson said the five most common entities in female pornography were: Surgeon, Billionair, Vampire, Werefolf and Pirate. But the list was actually: Doctor, Cowboy, Boss, Prince, Rancher, Knight, Surgeon, King, Bodyguard, Sheriff. And it was derived from pornographic literature, not from pornographic internet searches. Though over the past decade, vampires and werewolves did replace human character as … | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/04/19 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Giant compilation of BlackPill StudiesThe chances of pregnancy are more than two times higher for rape intercourse There are mixed findings for this, with about even split between higher and lower, but there are of course ideological incentives to publish on it being lower, so make of that what you will... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_from_rape Although most studies suggest that conception rates are independent of whether insemination is due to rape or consensual sex,[17] some analysts have suggested that the rate of conc… | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/04/19 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Extroverted people are more likely to be goodlooking while introverted people are more likely to be ugly.Earlier, I accidentally omitted the correlation for women in study 2, so the largest difference is smaller now. Any difference there is for men, is likely simply due to slighly different dimensions of extraversion being tested, but it's not even a very significant difference: r = .45, N = 85 for men and r = .35, N = 89 for women in study 1, and r = .64, N = 146 for men and r = .36, N = 52 for women in study 2. Test z = 1.974, p = 0.024 for men. Meaning producing data points with same mean and st… | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/04/19 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Extroverted people are more likely to be goodlooking while introverted people are more likely to be ugly.r = .64 for men and r = .36 for women for IPIP extroverison and self-rated attractiveness. r = .45 for men and r = .35 for women for some different measures of extroversion (HEXACO, shyness and social attention) and self-rated attractiveness. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/04/19 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Just like adults, children by the age of 5 make rapid and consistent character judgements of others based on facial features, such as the tilt of the mouth or the distance between the eyes. Those facial features also shape how children behave toward others, according to researchit works like 70% of the time Some genetic defects that correlate with low IQ are definitely easily recognizeable (e.g. down syndrome), but I think the actual figure is lower than 70% (at least if you only judge photos, not behavior). | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/04/19 07:50 PM |
| 8 | Being Single is the Strongest Social Risk Factor Among Suicides By MenYou have a control group (men who were married at least once) and a treatment group (never married men). "Hazard" is the probability that something bad happens within a time period (in this case suicide). The "hazard ratio" is the hazard of the control group divided by the hazard of the control group. tl;dr: A hazard ratio of 1.80 for suicide of never married men, means never married men are 1.80 times as likely to commit suicide than men who were married before. "Adjusted hazard ratio" in this … | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/04/19 07:46 PM |
| 6 | 1939 vs 2008. Statements, of what Men and Women Want in Marriage (or I assume LTR)Note how it's likely women's increased level of education that has resulted in them prefering even better educated men. The same effect on Tinder: ftp://repec.iza.org/RePEc/Discussionpaper/dp11933.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/04/19 10:15 AM |
| 27 | Being Single is the Strongest Social Risk Factor Among Suicides By MenSource: https://doi.org/10.1017/S0033291713000810 Various observations: unmarried status among women (aHR 1.59) or men (aHR 1.75) never married status among women (aHR 1.65) or men (aHR 1.80) low education level is only a significant risk factor for males (aHR 1.46) aHR is adjusted hazard ratio. Note that being single is the strongest social risk factor for men, but not the strongest risk factor overall. Substance abuse is e.g. a much larger risk factor with around aHR 4-7. The largest risk fact… | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/04/19 10:15 AM |
| 5 | Ethical practices for men in response to female hypergamyEnforce monogamy, basically. If a man switches partners in quick succession or sees multiple partners at the same time, tell them that it's wrong. Encourage people to marry and to stay married (to fix their marriages if they are broken). Donate to research on how to improve the quality of marriages and how to deal with hypergamy (I don't know of any though). Etc. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/04/19 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Paternal discrepancy (PD) occurs when a child is identified as being biologically fathered by someone other than the man who believes he is the father. Rates vary between studies from 0.8% to 30%The title of the submission obscures the fact that the median of the least biased studies is only 3.7%. The one with 30% has poor test sensitivity. The other ones around 10% were black and Mexican samples. So unless things have changed a lot more recently (after 1999), the PD rate is likely low. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/04/19 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.Yes, it probably can help. I was mentioning the facets because I think the correlation could be even higher if they restricted neuroticism to the facets of neuroticism that are strongly related to social status. | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/04/19 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.Help for what? | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/04/19 09:15 PM |
| 4 | Who exactly is the top 20%?if they are desirable enough to make others tolerate it I actually said there are minimal requirements for looks right in the next sentence. Though I think near psychopathic dominance can get you surprisingly far, so PUA techniques actually work, but they are difficult to maintain and I think impossible to maintain for some character types, e.g. introverts, autists and idealists who do not like putting up a facade. Minimal looks for top 20% partner count without being exceptionally wealthy is pr… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/04/19 09:11 PM |
| 21 | Who exactly is the top 20%?I would add psychopathy, risk-taking behavior and physical dominance, if you are only talking about quantity, rather than something like quality × quantity. I think for some dimensions there are minimal requirements (looks, IQ), beyond which they also become less predictive of mating success (but no reversal for looks; there is a reversal for IQ for quanitity but not quality, I think). Income can often make up for deficiencies (see the studies by Hitsch in the sidebar). For e.g. body height ther… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/04/19 03:32 AM |
| 3 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.Neuroticism -0.46 Here are the various facets of Neuroticism. https://ipip.ori.org/newNEOFacetsKey.htm Some of them should correlate more strongly with status than others. E.g. immoderation and anger (both low inhibition cues) are likely found in both high and low status individuals. The other facets of neuroticism (anxiety, depression, self-consciousness and vulnerability) seem to be much more reliable indicators of low status. N1: ANXIETY (Alpha = .83) + keyed Worry about things. Fear for the … | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/04/19 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.Some may have interpreted it as "looks matter more for males". | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/04/19 02:58 AM |
| 2 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.Great find. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/19 11:42 AM |
| 7 | Who attains social status? Effects of personality and physical attractiveness in social groups.I think the best explanation for this was given on page 12 in the paper, which is that women are nasty to one another and penalize their promiscuous behavior (attractive women have a vast amount of opportunities for sex). More evidence for this is here (males gain status, females lose status when having sex): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-016-0618-x | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/19 11:41 AM |
| 3 | Studies that show that men have a wider range of what they deem as attractive?I reviewed the literature here: https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a91q82/are_sex_differences_in_attractiveness_ratings/ There is consistent evidence that in online and "offline" dating, men rate women as more attractive (about d = .75-1.2). This implies that men find a wider range of females attractive than vice-versa. The best quality offline study (Birnbaum) has a smaller effect size than OkCupid, but according to my calculations not significantly smaller. You can check out in… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/19 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceI think your point is a potentially important caveat, however Asians studying overtime is also a common stereotype in Western countries. Also, Asians being d = 1.3 (or so) shorter should also predict a difference in muscle mass of similar magnitude. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/19 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Testosterone increases perceived dominance but not attractiveness in human males.Good point. I'd also imagine the DHT:testosterone ratio to be a better predictor of partner count, but I wasn't able to find anything in a quick web search. Sometimes /u/TrannyPornO happens to have some studies handy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/04/19 10:40 AM |
| 3 | A single personality trait is the foundation for almost all mental illness: studyAnd with friendship: https://osf.io/df9q4 | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/04/19 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceSounds plausible, but I doubt it explains much. Caucasians in the West are also frequently demotivated, out of shape etc. Obesity rates are way higher in the West. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/04/19 04:20 PM |
| 1 | When people make assumptions about others and what happens when those assumptions are crushedDo you analyze each and every situation like this also while socializing? Then this may be your main hindrance. The "sixth sense" is not really a sixth sence, but simply unfulfilled preference for neurotypical behavior and high status/confidence. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/04/19 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceBy the way it does not matter for the argument if there are such effects. If the famine genes are still active, then it will negatively affect the SMV accordingly. Japanese body height has stabilized before 2000. http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/n/nbakki/20140530/20140530123635.jpg And it looks like Korea's body height has also almost stabilized and, interestingly, it seems it is ~4,6cm taller than the Japanese: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/27/487391773/american… | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/04/19 12:11 PM |
| 3 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceHere is a study of Japanese-American males in Hawaii aged 45–49 (N = 1,831) also only had 41.7±5.56 kg grip strength, so that's pretty similar. Japan also counts as developed nation for a while now, and the last famine was in 1833–1837 (Tenpo famine). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9843525 (Rantanen 1998) Edit 1: Never mind, the 45-49 sample was from 1965. Edit 2: The male control group in this Japanese study from 2000 may be a good comparison. The mean right hand grip strength for age rang… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/04/19 08:35 PM |
| 7 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceIt's not so simple: After adjustment for age and Quetelet's index, the levels of total and bioavailable testosterone were highest in Asian-Americans, intermediate in African-Americans, and lowest in whites. However, the DHT[dihydrotestosterone]:testosterone ratio was highest in African-Americans, intermediate in whites, and lowest in Asian-Americans. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8672990 | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/04/19 06:29 PM |
| 7 | Blackpills for Asian males compilation: Facial hair and physical dominanceNot a hormone expert, but AFAIK hormones are difficult to study. It is mostly not the case that a single hormone affects something, but the relative concentrations of various hormones together. Also, the races have likely evolved to use hormones slightly differently, so only comparing absolute testosterone concentrations will not tell you much. Even a comparison just between the sexes in terms of hormones is often difficult. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/04/19 04:56 PM |
| 1 | A New Study Blows Up Old Ideas About Girls and BoysDelete this. You're ruining it for everyone if this sub gets banned. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/04/19 11:53 AM |
| 2 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsBy "beautiful," I mean you seem to say White men are more desirable due to certain genetic factors. Is that a fair characterization? Yes, regarding some genetic factors, not all of them. Black men are more extroverted and stronger than white men, yet they are not as desirable as white men. Why? Extroversion is actually only weakly correlated with mating success, but I think it could have played a role when the first European settlers came to Asia and brought booze and hookers (I'm just guessing … | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/04/19 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Pretty Waitresses Earn Bigger Tips, From WomenYeah, the study is limited about the extent to which looks matter because waiters and waitresses are already mostly selected to have some level of attractiveness. A very ugly person would probably be uncomfortable with such a job. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/04/19 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Pretty Waitresses Earn Bigger Tips, From WomenThen one would expect females to pay a smaller tip to ugly men which they don't (at least not significantly). | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/04/19 11:24 AM |
| 4 | Pretty Waitresses Earn Bigger Tips, From WomenThis also rings true for me in certain situations between female acquaintances and friends. Men sometimes also act opportunistically and submissive in presence of other high status males, but it does seem to be a stronger automatism in females. However, the restaurant customers were probably on average older than the waitresses. The paper does not provide information about age, but waitresses have an average age of just 30.1 and female attractiveness is somewhat correlated with age, so the attra… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/04/19 09:52 AM |
| 4 | Pretty Waitresses Earn Bigger Tips, From Womenbeauty yielding social benefits From the articles they have linked: Evolutionary psychology holds that faces really are windows onto certain fundamental and important characteristics indicative of a person’s quality as a romantic partner and as a mate — qualities of health and genes, and even character. They are not merely talking about social benefits, but about "good genes", but that's a dead theory. Unattractiveness, if we define it as "deviance from a known symmetrical morphological archetyp… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/04/19 09:26 AM |
| 11 | Pretty Waitresses Earn Bigger Tips, From WomenLink to study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016748701500046X attractive servers earn approximately $1261 more per year than unattractive servers Quite substantial. One hypothesis they have not considered is the correlation between female attractiveness and neoteny. A childish waitress may elicit a mothering instinct in females more. Women are overall more egalitarian and have a drive to make sure "everyone is fed", which probably explains why they tip more (especially k… | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 10:28 PM |
| 4 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsI don't think I can say something insightful about India or the Philippines because I'm unfamiliar with the history of these places, sorry. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 12:38 PM |
| 3 | Testosterone increases perceived dominance but not attractiveness in human males.T being unrelated to women's ratings is consistent with the notion that mere dominance outweighs looks: https://psyarxiv.com/edw4f/ So T does not make you prettier in women's eyes, but more competitive and that slightly increases mating success, but not much. T and partner count correlate with around r = .137: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21420411 | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 10:46 AM |
| 6 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsWhere did I say Whites are more beautiful? I said the following: Whites are more extroverted, stronger and have majority privilege. Also they are more masculine in some dimensions (endomorphic vs mesomorphic, facial hair). The combination of those could explain why Whites are more likely at the top of the social hierarchy (not necessarily economically because of lower IQ). Especially mere physical dominance is a huge determining factor of mating success of males: https://psyarxiv.com/edw4f/ So l… | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 01:22 AM |
| 6 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsShow me primary source on what Asian females thought about those extroverted, strong and tall European supplicants. If you cannot find it, maybe it was never recorded because the Asian males were too embarrassed to write it down? | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 12:20 AM |
| 3 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsTypo, should be "Bruce". | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 12:11 AM |
| 3 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsWhat is wrong with an 14 year old boy impressed by a ninja and how does that contradict masculinity? Also lots of adult men practice Asian martial arts for their entire lives and take it very seriously. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 12:11 AM |
| 3 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsEveryone can write on Wikipedia. How about you check the primary sources instead of relying on some anonymous second hand information. How about you judge based on content instead of based on affiliation or names. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/04/19 12:05 AM |
| 3 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsI can give you sources/entries on the demasculinizing of Asian males in things like media in the US. I'd be interested in this. Quite frankly, I'm not perceiving such a "demasculinization of Asian males" in the media. Quite the contrary, e.g. things like martial arts, Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, are very traditionally masculine. Also Asian video gamers, athletes, scientists, engineers etc. pp. are admired for their superior IQ, reaction times and fine motor skills. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/04/19 10:38 PM |
| 7 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsWas such demonization of early White conquerors mainly done on part of males or females? That is a critical distinction to be made because obviously the men do not want to lose their women to the conquerors. There is evidence that women generally get excited about conquering groups, because they have the option of marrying into them. They tend to opportunistically prefer the best source of resources at any given time. https://faculty.washington.edu/hechter/KanazawaPaper.pdf Also couldn't the hos… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/04/19 09:54 PM |
| 5 | NPR made a soundtrack to Black Pill ComicsI think you are not wrong, that there is a cultural component, but the biological one is probably larger than you think. Regarding overall body structure: The main body types are endomorph (fat, short extremities), ectomorph (skinny, long extremities), and mesomorph (muscular, long extremities) (Carter & Heath,1990). The main races, in terms of body type and other relevant factors, can be categorized as follows: […] East Asians. This race is the most endomorphic. The modal East Asian has short a… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/04/19 09:41 PM |
| 4 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)4 times more important Do you have a reference for this? I'm only aware of the following study, but it's a small sample size (84 photos, but only 12 raters), not sure where the 4x figure comes from. http://doi.org/10.1016/j.anbehav.2006.07.012 | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/04/19 12:50 AM |
| 11 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)This is actually very analogous to the halo effect regarding intelligence. The correlation between attractiveness ratings and perceived intelligence is also around r = 0.8 (but the correlation with actual IQ is very low, around r = .07-.3). I'm wondering whether this is related to the ad-hoc explanations that people give when their arms are moved by electrically stimulating neurons in their brains (link). In a similar manner, when some sexually selected circuitry makes someone stare at a beautif… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 10:37 PM |
| 7 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)I don’t think women are choosing them purely because they perceive them as strong, there’s other variables at play here. Not purely, but perceived strength explains the vast majority of it (70%). broad shoulders, low body fat, 6 pack […] Women don’t just want what they’re attracted to, they want what other women are attracted to, it’s almost a status thing. Women do copy mate choices, but I'd bet preferences for very specific things like toned muscles etc. are >95% genetically determined and >95… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)It's probably positively correlated, but not strongly so. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 09:33 PM |
| 8 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Women are attracted to aesthetic men who appear to be strong in their eyes. Not actual strong men who have Dad bods, wider hips, higher body fat %, short arms etc. Yes, but the fact that women select by perceived strength so strongly, should imply that actual strength is very important to them (bodyguard hypothesis), because women actually think they choose a strong man. Then the question is why are women fooled fairly easily by men who appear stronger than they really are, and why do women misj… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 09:24 PM |
| 29 | Cues of upper body strength account for 70% of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness (Sell et al. 2017)Funnily, rated strength is very strongly correlated with rated attractiveness (r ≈ .8, as per title), but attractiveness is only moderately correlated with actual strength (r ≈ .25-.4), so once again likely some amount of Fisherian runaway and fakery at play, i.e. men evolving wide shoulders (presumably without additional muscle mass), merely to look more dominant in order to meet women's preferences that are under runaway selection, and to look more intimidating to other males too… Closely rela… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer taller height, broader shoulders+narrower hips, larger penises, even in the upper extremes (really tall, really large penis, really broad shoulders+narrow hips)This makes steps easier and less taxing on energy. The idea that hip size is related to locomotion efficiency is an old one, and it's regarded as dubious by more recent science: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150313094557.htm | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer taller height, broader shoulders+narrower hips, larger penises, even in the upper extremes (really tall, really large penis, really broad shoulders+narrow hips)No, that's not true. See here (the last myth): https://www.pregnancybirthbaby.org.au/common-myths-about-giving-birth The hypothesized relation between hip size and locomotion inefficiency is very likely wrong anyhow: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150313094557.htm It is true that women are worse runners, but the hip structure is not a main limiting factor here. Muscle mass is. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/04/19 07:16 PM |
| 6 | Women prefer taller height, broader shoulders+narrower hips, larger penises, even in the upper extremes (really tall, really large penis, really broad shoulders+narrow hips)It has likely no particular purpose. The link between waist–hip ratio, even hip size and fertility in women is also weak. Of course the extremes are bad, but the narrow preferences for the female hourglass shape and the male V-shape are likely amplified by Fisherian runwaway selection. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 08:44 PM |
| 22 | Women with greater body mass than expected for their height show a stronger preference for bigger penises than other women (although all women prefer bigger penises, even if really big)Presumably they need something longer to get past the fat pads, lmao. | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 08:41 PM |
| 6 | Men show a high level of arousal concordance, women do notThe nature of female sexual response may also play a rolein producing low concordance among women. […] Reflexive vaginal responding may have been beneficial because vaginal vasocongestion results in lubrication of the genital tract, reducing the likelihood of injury and subsequent infection resulting from vaginal penetration. Ancestral women who did not reflexively lubricate and who experienced unwanted sex would have been more likely to experience injuries or infections that could have rendered… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 02:00 PM |
| 7 | Women prefer taller height, broader shoulders+narrower hips, larger penises, even in the upper extremes (really tall, really large penis, really broad shoulders+narrow hips)Am I reading this correctly that, on average, a 13 cm flaccid penis size increases attractiveness by 1.5 out of 7 points (with a pretty narrow 95% confidence interval) over a 5 cm penis? The graph seems implausible because wouldn't one expect it to be negative for very small penis sizes? | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 01:49 PM |
| 6 | Facial dominance in Homo sapiens as honest signaling of male qualityPhysical attractiveness is useful for survival in the sense that one is more likely selected by the opposite sex and is better treated by conspecifics overall (sometimes actually also other species, think humans treating cute cats better than ugly ones). | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 11:46 AM |
| 5 | Facial dominance in Homo sapiens as honest signaling of male qualityFacial dominance is actually not an honest signal of overall quality, a weak one at best. Below are a bunch of relevant studies: No association between attractiveness and offspring survival in societies without access to modern medicine. […] Neither attractiveness nor masculinity were related to fertility (offspring number). https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169181 Facial asymmetry unrelated to health: https://www.the-scientist.com/features/a-fluctuating-reality-… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/04/19 10:13 AM |
| 2 | Here is a better graph of the HCMST dataIt's hard to tell from this, but GSS data suggests that it is around 70/20 for males and 60/20 for females. It seems around ~27% of males and ~14% of females between 25 and 35 are virgins. Males have a ~4 times higher sex drive and females are likely more socially integrated despite having no partner, so an inequality has possibly a greater negative effect in case of males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/04/19 11:30 AM |
| 4 | Here is a better graph of the HCMST dataYes, and hardly any changes for women. Which must mean they are dating a smaller group of men and/or older men more. Edit 1: It cannot be older men because the age gap of women aged 23–35 and their partners has significantly decreased: 2009 (-3.50±6.40) and 2017 (-2.17±4.33), t = 2.9882, p = 0.0029. Edit 2: It looks like HCMST 2017 is an outlier for women: https://i.imgur.com/A4sly3P.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/19 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Here is a better graph of the HCMST dataStatistical significance of the χ² test between 2009 and 2017. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/19 07:02 PM |
| 4 | Here is a better graph of the HCMST dataEdit: It looks like HCMST 2017 is an outlier for females. I've combined various variables about singles (posslqy and romance) from GSS with HCMST 2009 and 2017 in the following graph (age 18–28): https://i.imgur.com/A4sly3P.png The number of female singles should also have increased to be consistent with the significant increase of females who did not have sex in the past year in GSS. (pinging /u/TrannyPornO) Data sources: https://data.stanford.edu/hcmst https://data.stanford.edu/hcmst2017 (addi… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/19 12:25 PM |
| 1 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendIt likely has not moved much. See these graphs with larger pooling (meaning that a larger age range was averaged for each point of the graph) and 99% CI: https://i.imgur.com/numMh7r.png https://i.imgur.com/X2LwNO0.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/04/19 08:59 AM |
| 21 | In the 1600s age of first marriage reached 27 years old. A good place and time to look for more clues.It seems it was mainly due to an economic crisis starting in the 1570s. Hypergamy and the actual need to secure resources for the offspring made women compete in terms of a reputation of chastity: Single young women came under intense pressure to abstain from sexual activity for the sake of their economic and marital prospects. | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Clearing up the virginity graph for brainlets. EVERYONE, GTFIHI tried your range, but it also did not result in the downward slope for females. It's probably just noise anyhow. I also failed to reproduce the 27% and 28% figures from Washington Post, which are also a lot higher than what's in your graphs. | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Clearing up the virginity graph for brainlets. EVERYONE, GTFIHI'm failing to reproduce this. This is essentially my query with y running from 1989 to 2018: (age <= 30) & (year >= y-2) & (year < y+2) & (numwomen >= 0) & (numwomen < 990) & (nummen >= 0) & (nummen < 990) And then I calculate the fractions of numwomen == 0 and nummen == 0 for sex == 1 (males) and sex == 2 (females), respectively. Plotted with 99% CI. https://i.imgur.com/EYRf8V5.png | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 12:57 PM |
| 2 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendI know that studies are required to ask, but are they required to publish the consent bit for each data row? | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 12:45 PM |
| 11 | Clearing up the virginity graph for brainlets. EVERYONE, GTFIHThere are probably large subcultural differences. Edit: Puzzled by the downvotes. For example, atheists are twice as likely as Catholics to have never married: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/FT_18.03.19_marriageReligion.png There are large differences and people tend to only come in contact with a people who are very similar. You guys probably come from fairly liberal subcultures. | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 12:43 PM |
| 5 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendIn 2009, the slope is pretty flat up until 40. In 2017, it is steeper so in truth it is probably not as steep. I think the wall is true in terms of physical attractiveness which declines by 50% or so from 25 to 35, but there are enough horny males such that the decreased physical attractiveness does not have a huge effect on singlehood in the mid 30s (perhaps 5-10%). | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 11:14 AM |
| 6 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendI also think it shows women's difficulty to attract a partner after the wall and then men's earlier mortality. But the true wall is likely around 40 when they become infertile and surpass males in singlehood. The graph from 2009 may serve as refutation of the notion that men have it harder in their 20s and then easier later as women prefer older partners. There is no indication that men past their 30s are less likely single, so it's a small effect if it exists at all: https://i.imgur.com/numMh7r… | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 10:50 AM |
| 8 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendIt's the percentage of people who answered "No" to the question "Do you have a boyfriend, a girlfriend, a sexual partner or a romantic partner?". Edit: It's likely an outlier result for females. See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b81lu0/_/ejvb9pt/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/03/19 08:54 AM |
| 4 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendAmazing that they even include a "Do you consent to participate in this study?" question. I also thought this was funny, but I suspect this is an automation artifact. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/03/19 11:28 PM |
| 2 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trend95% CI (p ± 1.96 * sqrt((p * (1 - p)) / n)): https://i.imgur.com/CSWHSgb.png https://i.imgur.com/2JXzWjw.png Edit: 99% CI: https://i.imgur.com/czaNCa6.png https://i.imgur.com/ikTIPrU.png Edit: 99% CI with ±12 year pooling: https://i.imgur.com/numMh7r.png https://i.imgur.com/X2LwNO0.png Edit: Males: Age±6 2009 2017 chi2 p 18 42.59% 71.43% 13.94 0.00019 24 44.13% 62.00% 11.41 0.00073 30 42.36% 51.79% 2.40 0.12156 36 36.02% 37.63% 0.01 0.90342 42 41.63% 31.87% 2.23 0.13537 48 43.51% 29.89% 4.59 0.0… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/03/19 11:17 PM |
| 1 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendThe 2017 codebook is here: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vt073cc9067/HCMST_2017_fresh_Codeboodk_v1.1a.pdf S2 is on page 15. Do you have a boyfriend, a girlfriend, a sexual partner or a romantic partner? 694 1 Yes, I have a sexual partner (boyfriend or girlfriend) 83 2 I have a romantic partner who is not yet a sexual partner 648 3 No, I am single, with no boyfriend, no girlfriend and no romantic or sexual partner. 2085 . I'm dropping the LGB sample and the non-answers and the numbers ch… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/03/19 10:54 PM |
| 3 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendThey marked the 400 LGB samples with xlgb == 1. Excluding those should then be representative of the US population. See page 5 in this document: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vt073cc9067/GFK_project_report_HCMST_2017_v1.pdf And page 15 here: https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:vt073cc9067/HCMST_2017_fresh_Codeboodk_v1.1a.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/03/19 10:45 PM |
| 8 | The new How Couples Meet and Stay Together dataset also confirms the incel trendSource: https://data.stanford.edu/hcmst2017 I'm excluding the LGB samples (xlgb == 2). Just to get an idea of the sample size of the 2017 data: https://i.imgur.com/JVdF0lE.png The 2009 one had 78% more data. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/03/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Bullying behavior predicts an increase in sexual opportunities even when accounting for age, sex, and self-reports of attractiveness, likeability, and peer victimizationI dislike the mob mentality this site operates by. There are law that regulate defamation and harassment already. No need for vigilante justice. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/03/19 05:35 PM |
| 3 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]That's likely true, but with an affair they also risk losing support of their provider. It's a risky move and that contradicts women's stronger paternal investment and choosiness and cautiousness that result from it. Also sleeping around would likely be penalized by gossip of other women, as fierce as female intrasexual competition is. Dual mating may exist as a minor evolved alternative strategy, but it seems unlikely to be the predominant one. | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/03/19 01:39 AM |
| 2 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]The problem is the study Which one? Typically women who go off the pill stay with masculine men and dump feminine men. This is not typical behavior, but it may be a tendency. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-018-00186-6 It's not clear whether this is an attempt to only get genes from someone else (unlikely) or simply an attempt to switch to a different mate entirely when women are the most valuable, i.e. when ovulating (more likely). | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/03/19 01:25 AM |
| 4 | No evidence that women using oral contraceptives have weaker preferences for masculine characteristics in men's faces (Jones et al. 2017) [also evidence against AF/BB/dual mating strategy]Right, it is evidence against a narrow definition of dual mating strategy in which women prefer beta cues when not ovulating (and during pregnancy) and alpha cues otherwise. This is a reasonable assumption though, provided that in this model, women would need to ensure continued investment of their beta provider, so it would make sense to bond with them. (Though it could of course be that the dynamics resulting from greater paternal investment of women, namely the sex difference in sex drive vs … | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/03/19 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Where does the 6ft height minimum requirement come from?More importantly, it's not true: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Height-and-mean-sex-partner-number-with-standard-errors-for-heterosexual-men-and-women_fig1_283199925 | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/03/19 07:21 PM |
| 1 | The reason why many of the studies posted on here are largely BS .Except the Alpha / Beta dynamic as it's spoken about in these subs mostly only relates to low class communities. It seems educated women will sleep around with alphas, and only later in life settle with betas (slightly against their preferences, but resource availability overrides that). AFAIK there is no good data about that though, except anecdotes. You are not responding to the fact that women past their 30s are mostly unattractive. It's basically an unfulfilled life. number of the studies of… | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/03/19 09:46 AM |
| 1 | The reason why many of the studies posted on here are largely BS .First of all, please write shorter. Your argument could be said in six sentences. Secondly, I'd argue betabuxxing is unethical. The 20s are the most energetic and adventurous time in people's lives and betas basically suffer through that time only to later water a withered flower. Also, studies like the one on thugs may not merely inform about actual partner choices, but also about relationship quality (implying a women may be very quickly bored with her beta even though he is a good provider, w… | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/03/19 11:24 PM |
| 26 | How men in Spain were almost completely wiped out between 4,500 and 4,000 years ago: Mass migration from Russia transformed the Iberian peninsula during the Bronze AgeA relevant study by Kanazawa: women should be far less resistant to alien rule than men, because they have the option of marrying into the conquering group. […] The analysis of the Eurobarometer data from 15 European Union nations strongly confirms this prediction. http://faculty.washington.edu/hechter/KanazawaPaper.pdf It seems women have a tendency not to fear the enemy, but instead get excited about men fighting each other (over them, of course). | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/03/19 07:38 PM |
| 31 | Gang members had more sex partners than other men from the same neighborhood. Gang leaders had by far the most sex partners. (Palmer & Tilley, 1995)"Many are recruited because they are promised the companionship of pretty girls . . ." gang members reported a significantly greater average number of sex partners during the last 30 days than the non-gang members reported for the same period (M of 1.67 to 1.22, respectively); one-tailed t-test, t = 2.16, df = 118, p < .025. […] two gang leaders […] reported 11 and 10 partners, respectively, [within the last 90 days] […] In contrast, no non-gang member in the study reported more than five partne… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/03/19 04:41 PM |
| 1 | How would you guys explain ugly guys with really hot girls? (including examples)arguably pretty short Fine, but as long as she is even shorter, that should not be an issue. The correlation between height and mating success are not large; see here: https://i.redd.it/en3xa2wrn2l21.png So ignore my point about height; it's not an important factor (as long shorter dates are available). extremely overweight That guy may have a BMI of 32, or so, which is not detrimental according to the follow graph. His mating performance is predicted to be about as good as the medical optimum (… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/03/19 04:36 PM |
| 1 | How would you guys explain ugly guys with really hot girls? (including examples)I think the blackpill regarding looks (in the sense that that it is hopeless) is only true for the bottom 10% of men, or so. Above that, other criteria actually play a role (especially status/dominance). I think none of the men you have chosen as examples are in the bottom 10%. None of them looked particularly feminine, short or underweight, and all of them have wide cheekbones as far as I can tell. All of them are probably highly neurotypical and dominant. The preferences about looks are also f… | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/03/19 12:26 PM |
| 1 | Women judge and value men based on physical attractiveness to the same degree as men do with women. Men's most important trait by far to be liked by women is his physical attractivenessLmao, this quote on hypergamy: Goffman (1952) said that: "A proposal of marriage in our society tends to be a way in which a man sums up his social attributes and suggests to a woman that hers are not so much better as to preclude a merger or a partnership in these matters [p. 456]." | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/03/19 10:34 AM |
| 6 | How would you guys explain ugly guys with really hot girls? (including examples)I think sometimes ideology also plays a role. Some women virtue signal hard by dating down by a large margin. Such relationships are probably much less stable than looks-matches though, because of envy and the lack of social endorsement. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 11:55 PM |
| 19 | 21% of female subjects (N = 71) admitted they ended a relationship because, among other reasons, the penis size was too small (Prause et al., 2015)The question was "Have you ever stopped seeing a man because, among other reasons, his penis was too small compared to what you wanted?". From Table 1, last row (first column is N and second column is %): https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure/image?size=large&id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0133079.t001 7% ended a relationship because (among other reasons) the penis size was too large, so /r/bigdickproblems appears to be a real issue, but a smaller one. Interestingly, though, /r/smal… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 06:07 PM |
| 2 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)This isn't evidence that supports most attractive women chase repeated offenders IMO. Not sure anyone claimed that. Thug status probably does select the best women available because criminal's dominance status will likely outcompete law-abiding males in the same socioeconomic strata, so it does seem plausible that the women are relatively attractive, but this study does not reveal that. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 03:54 PM |
| 5 | Does size truly matter?Yes size does matter. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0133079 This one is the best studies as it actually provided 3D printed shapes for the raters to have a reference. It reveals that (US) women prefer slightly larger than average (~6.35 in preferred vs 6.0 in average). | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 11:58 AM |
| 4 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)I messed up the URL in this submission. Here are the correct links: https://i.imgur.com/Omsqc5c.png https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Barry_Milne/publication/11470503 (Moffitt 2002) Childhood antisocial behavior is highly heritable with an initial estimate of .73 (95% confidence interval = .68–.78). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12625439 (Jaffee 2003) | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 11:27 AM |
| 4 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)Most men on this sub could qualify as antisocial Antisocial in this study means delinquent offending, so offenders who were actually reported to the authorities and convicted. | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 11:07 AM |
| 2 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Barry_Milne/publication/11470503 | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 10:40 AM |
| 6 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)It's not hard to find the PDF based on the title (literally one web search): https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/644e/4b1622f286a3c7a55ac95f454a6d44399921.pdf And then ctrl-f "27" brings us here: although men who engaged in high levels of antisocial behavior constituted only 10% of a birth cohort, they accounted for 27% of the babies fathered by the time the men were age 26 years. 3-4 more clicks brings us to this cohort study of N = 499 males from New Zealand: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 10:38 AM |
| 7 | Women judge and value men based on physical attractiveness to the same degree as men do with women. Men's most important trait by far to be liked by women is his physical attractivenessLooks matter more than people like to admit, but you need to be more careful with interpreting such results. This study is about blind dates and it's not clear whether the result that people choose only based on looks holds for dating in general. The study reports correlations of self-rated popularity with the other sex and attractiveness of only .31 and .46 for male and female students respectively. That's far from 80%. In the study it's also exclusively males (freshmen) who are unlikely to occ… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/03/19 12:03 AM |
| 19 | The 10% most antisocial men father 27% of the children (Jaffee et al. 2003)Antisocial behavior may be an evolved alternative reproductive strategy for males that emphasizes mating quantity over long-term reproductive partner investment. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.evolhumbehav.2014.06.007 This may explain why it is so prevalent. Or it's just a side-effect of women preferring alpha males (essentially bodyguard hypothesis). In the natural setting, antisocial behavior was perhaps a much more reliable signal of high status, because one could only afford temporary non-coopera… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/03/19 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Women judge and value men based on physical attractiveness to the same degree as men do with women. Men's most important trait by far to be liked by women is his physical attractivenessYes, pretty much the same applied to men judging women (but that's unsurprising as it is known that men are very "visual"). The study has various important caveats though: It's a blind date setting in large group (a dance evening) over a brief time (2.5 hours) and the males were not much older than the females. It was possibly too short to really convey information about status, intellect, ability to provide. People might have also been not relaxed enough to truly show their personalities. At ag… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/03/19 08:34 PM |
| 5 | Women judge and value men based on physical attractiveness to the same degree as men do with women. Men's most important trait by far to be liked by women is his physical attractivenessI also do not post titles because I often want to highlight a particular finding. Do you think that's bad practice or do you find this particular title bad? (I think first author & date is good enough for identification.) | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/03/19 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Women judge and value men based on physical attractiveness to the same degree as men do with women. Men's most important trait by far to be liked by women is his physical attractivenessGreat find. The correlation between rated physical attractiveness and popularity [a compound score of self-assessed popularity with members of the opposite sex, easiness of getting a date with someone perceived as exceptionally attractive, and number of dates in the last 6 months] for men is .31 and for women is .46. That's a weak correlation for males and moderate one for women. The difference can possibly mostly be traced back to fiercer intra-sexual competition in females, and the fact that f… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/03/19 06:16 PM |
| 4 | Last night I heard my husband tell off one of his employees through the phone and it turned me on so bad that I'm ashamed of myself.http://doi.org/10.1007/s12147-015-9142-5 I wonder to which extend major wars were fueled by men trying to become attractive to women by doing "something dangerous". Provided that a male becomes almost a standard deviation more attractive to women doing so, and provided that sex is the most pleasurable experience, the incentives should be very strong. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/03/19 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Does amygdalotomy make men more alpha?I'd bet you'd still need a somewhat massive frame to really reap the benefits of your psychopathy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/03/19 12:56 PM |
| 1 | If you are white, dark features are preffered over lightby saying it might largely be explained is jumping to conclusions No, "it's definitely …" would be a jump to the conclusion. I would not put too much weight on pupil coloration (it seems eyebrow, beard and hair are more salient), but you are right that I did not read your studies very carefully and I apologize for that. Quite frankly, the typo in the title set my expectations low to find anything of value ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I would have thought that blonde men would also prefer brunettes, but instead th… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/03/19 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Any scientific evidence for the 80/20 rule?I think the best estimates currently come from GSS data, and it seems it is more like between 54/20 and 74/20 for males and between 34/20 and 63/20 for females, though the estimates are not very reliable. https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/ai6ta0/_/eetbf9f/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim https://notpeerreviewed.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/modern-hypergamy-is-probably-not-a-real-thing/ (this blog post is flawed, but it comes t… | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/03/19 11:28 AM |
| 10 | Are there studies about the correlation between beauty and fighting success/strength?https://psyarxiv.com/edw4f/ (p. 50) For males, the correlations with strength are as follows: r = .05-.06 (bodily attractiveness), r = .13-.15 (facial attractiveness), r = .15 (sexual attractiveness), so rather weak correlations, if at all (none of them are significant). The study also provides other interesting correlations regarding number of sex partners in the past 12 months with sexual attractiveness r = .20*-.21*, physical dominance r = .28***, body size r = .20*-.26***. So overall rather … | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 06:51 PM |
| 12 | Should we guys fake personalities?That's basically what countless of cultural adaptations were about, e.g. the Jungian shadow, initiation rituals into manhood, boys-only spaces, the boy scouts, segregation in the workplace and sciences etc. It was all about faking high status cues or securing positions of status for men in order to compensate for women's preference for that (partly of course also a natural result of men being stronger and more competent/mature on average). | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 12:47 PM |
| 5 | In a large forensic hospital, 39% of psychopathic patients had a consensual sexual relationship with female staff members (Gacono et al., 1995)Around 60% of women report to have rape fantasies (so perhaps a bit more without social desirability bias). I suspect that this largely overlaps with the preference for psychopathy/dark triad (which of course does not mean that as many would engage with a psychopath, since most women have better options and would not risk damaging their reputations). | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Do we have the answers to these questions?This also surprised me. Black women actually had the second highest reply rate for White male senders here: https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/howyourraceaffectsthemessagesyouget.html On the other hand, it does agree with the Let's Meet scores and the QuickMatch scores in this article: https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/raceandattraction20092014.html http://www.padjo.org/files/lectures/2014-11-13/ok-cupid-race-table.png There seems to be a difference between stated and exec… | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 10:35 AM |
| 6 | Women Get Bored With Sex in Long-Term RelationshipsThat seems like a false dichotomy. The female and male worlds used to be divided in the West too. I think both are outcomes of cultural evolution favoring a state in which females cannot interfere with their male's stoicism as females demand alpha cues. A downside of male stoicism is that it often destroys epistemology (the accuracy of beliefs) because you need to always pretend that everything is alright and that you know the right thing to do. | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 07:18 AM |
| 1 | If you are white, dark features are preffered over lightmight largely How is that "jumping to conclusions"? as opposed to OkCupid data Doesn't it seem more reliable to look at revealed preferences rather than preferences stated in an experiment/questionnaire. The latter might more likely suffer from social desirability bias because people feel observed and because of the artificial/hypothetical setting. How do you explain that Europeans were the least likely excluded in this paper, if I'm reading this correctly (page 32)? https://epc2012.princeton.ed… | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/03/19 06:58 AM |
| 10 | A compilation on personalitycucks The more you guys shitpost, the more likely it will happen. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Do we have the answers to these questions?Gotcha. I misread your comment as being affirmative of the question you quoted. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Do we have the answers to these questions?Only 1 exception Doesn't the graph suggest that darker skinned women do not necessarily prefer lighter colored men? White men would need a $220,000 higher income to be as desirable to a Black woman as to a White woman. That also agrees with the OkCupid data, but not with Potârcă, if I'm reading it correctly. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Psychopathy and Autism as Male Mating StrategiesHaving thought about this some more, it seems likely that (1) androgens such as fT have destructive influence on empathic circuitry and constructive influence on circuitry that detects female features (e.g. the hourglass shape), and (2) that the constructive influences get disrupted more easily by unusually high concentration of androgens, possibly because they are more complex (it requires more parts to be coordinated precisely, hence is more likely to fail under unusual conditions). The presen… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 12:31 PM |
| 2 | If you are white, dark features are preffered over lightThis might largely be explained by facial contrast being correlated with youth, as well as the association of disease with paleness (low blood pressure) and albinism (reduced protection from sunlight, abnormal eye development). https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01208/full Slightly tanned white skin with contrasting dark hair, eyes and eyebrows likely comes out on top (at least in the West). That would be in line with actual revealed preferences from OkCupid. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 11:58 AM |
| 18 | Do we have the answers to these questions?"Opposites attract" is not really supported by the literature, e.g. see page 32 in Potârcă (2012) and /u/eduardkoopman's comment. Being white seems overall advantageous. Data from OkCupid revealed that females have stronger homophily (preference for their own race) and attraction to Whites. Black women, Asian and Black men were the most disadvantaged groups. It seems the only case in which "opposites attract" is slightly true is between Asian women and White men. "How Your Race Affects The Messa… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/03/19 10:16 AM |
| 7 | FYI, that Chinese paper that purported high detection rates of “criminal faces” using AI is flawed. (It detected smiling rather than criminals.)Their photos of criminals were biased to contain fewer smiles because the photos were more often ID photos. This is kind of an anti-blackpill. The link between unattractiveness and crime is then likely relatively weak (also implying that attractive people are criminals with nearly the same rate): In case of males, unattractive individuals are about 1 percentage point more likely to commit robbery, and 1.7 percentage points more likely to sell drugs in comparison to average-looking males. Very at… | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/03/19 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Psychopathy and Autism as Male Mating StrategiesIt looks like the prevalence of homosexuals among ASD individuals is 2.69 times as high as in typically-developing individuals which is pretty substantial: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29159906 (George, Stokes 2018) The study lists some possible explanations similar to the ones I mentioned earlier. Meeting individuals of the opposite sex requires high social aptitude and might be challenging for someone with ASD. […] It is generally accepted that individuals with ASD are not as concerned … | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/03/19 11:23 PM |
| 5 | Psychopathy and Autism as Male Mating StrategiesI wonder why autistic males, despite having more masculinised brains, seem to be more likely to be bisexual and have broad tastes in kinks. I've also been wondering about this before. Autism appears to be (weakly) related to developmental instability (which expresses e.g. in fluctuating symmetry), which may also affect instability in the development of sexual preferences. Another theory could be that social exclusion results in people exploring more diverse interests, also sexually. Lastly, inte… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/03/19 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Any research about the optimal amount of facial hair ?True. There seems to be relatively large variation in the compatibility of various hair/beard styles and shape of the face. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/03/19 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Do light-colored features, like white skin, blue eyes, light hair... have any practical advantage over dark features, or did they spread only because they were "pretty"?Evidently it was enough selective pressure for boobs and the female hourglass shape to form. Also, the ratio of incoming messages in online dating between the least and most attractive members is similar for both sexes (around 20). | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/03/19 09:16 AM |
| 8 | Male psychopaths are more successful at dating and getting sexEllis and Walsh (2007) have reviewed 51 studies, 50 of which reported a positive association between number of sexual partners and antisocial behavior. https://books.google.com/books?id=ZONzAAAACAAJ | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/03/19 07:42 AM |
| 2 | The Paradox of Declining Female HappinessIn this study it's probably not social media though, but other things, if the effect really exists. It's probably mostly due to the economic exploitation of women. Women are too agreeable to negotiate good working conditions and their romantic lives suffer when they advance their careers because fewer men will be able to dominate them. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/03/19 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Being Rejected by an Attractive Man Makes Women Cruel to Other MenPrevious submission: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/9mxfwo/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/03/19 11:38 AM |
| 6 | Any research about the optimal amount of facial hair ?https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nick_Neave/publication/222774518 Light stubble wins, though, I think this preference is largely determined by what is currently fashionable. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/03/19 11:28 AM |
| 6 | The Paradox of Declining Female HappinessThis study concerns data from before social media have become really popular. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/03/19 11:17 AM |
| 6 | The Paradox of Declining Female HappinessWhat women desire is the freedom to do as they please Please substantiate such claims with a source. It took 40 years after women's suffrage before feminism arose. Why not immediately once women had the ability to influence the political process? If it's really women's preference to maximize freedom, then it does not seem like a very strong one. (Sure, women seem to be hardwired to try to outcompete their partners and find flaws in them, but it's not clear that this is something they consciously… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/03/19 11:16 AM |
| 7 | Post wall women take the most anti depressants.Yet, the suicide rate is much higher among older males, and significantly lower among older females: https://i.imgur.com/0qxtmye.png An explanation might be that older men are more likely lonely. But they also less likely to admit that they have problems and underreport their loneliness. Stoicism might make them less likely to take some sort of therapy or medication. Stoicism could be an adaptation, but females also prefer stoic males, so they likely reinforce this. https://www.researchgate.net/… | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/02/19 10:17 PM |
| 5 | Do light-colored features, like white skin, blue eyes, light hair... have any practical advantage over dark features, or did they spread only because they were "pretty"?So, here is my theory It's not your theory: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12573076 | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/02/19 03:08 PM |
| 4 | Do light-colored features, like white skin, blue eyes, light hair... have any practical advantage over dark features, or did they spread only because they were "pretty"?as women are becoming empowered One should not forget that women are also strongly sexually selected (that's what gave us boobs). There was less selective pressure on women because they could reproduce more often, but still, physical attractiveness enabled access to higher quality food and protection which very likely had a huge influence on women's reproductive success. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/02/19 03:07 PM |
| 8 | What study does the graph on the sidebar refer to?It's linked here: https://www.reddit.com/r/truerateme/comments/7t6gv0/how_a_males_facial_shape_correlates_to_his_level/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364661305003207 | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/02/19 10:25 PM |
| 5 | Women Get Bored With Sex in Long-Term Relationshipshttp://doi.org/10.1023/A:1015205020769 (Klusmann 2002) http://doi.org/10.1007/s12110-006-1010-2 (Klusmann 2006) | /r/BlackPillScience | 19/02/19 05:27 PM |
| 11 | Being very attractive reduces a young adult's (ages 18-26) propensity for criminal activity and being unattractive increases it for a number of crimes, ranging from burglary to selling drugs.Rather small effect size though? In case of males, unattractive individuals are about 1 percentage point more likely to commit robbery, and 1.7 percentage points more likely to sell drugs in comparison to average-looking males. Very attractive males are 4 percentage points less likely to sell drugs. There might be other dimensions of physical appearance besides attractiveness which correlate stronger with the propensity to commit crime. For example Chinese researchers could classify criminals ba… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/02/19 09:50 AM |
| 43 | Women Get Bored With Sex in Long-Term RelationshipsHaha: Two oft-cited German longitudinal studies, published in 2002 and 2006, show female desire dropping dramatically over 90 months, while men’s holds relatively steady. (Tellingly, women who didn’t live with their partners were spared this amusement-park-ride-like drop—perhaps because they were making an end run around overfamiliarity.) What is likely happening here is that in an intimate relationship, the woman learns about the man's weaknesses and eventually he does not seem better than her … | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/02/19 02:24 PM |
| 16 | Smiling makes men more attractive as husbands -- but not as hook ups"Long-term mating strategies" tend to strike me as virtue signalling. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/02/19 02:06 AM |
| 25 | Physical Attractiveness Bias: 27 Studies on Why Attractive People Win in the Legal SystemIt's likely a double-blackpill: (1) unattractive people are more likely socially exluded and hence more likely lack incentives for cooperation, (2) unattractive people are judged more harshly because they are perceived as less moral as a halo effect of unattractiveness. Edit: The effect size for (1) seems to be small though: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/arfdmf/_/egnjvgz/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/02/19 02:01 AM |
| 11 | Divorce rates up for Americans 50 and older, led by Baby BoomersAlso women don't like marrying down in the socioeconomic hierarchy and when they are allowed to gain high status and surpass lots of males, they rather stay single because "all good [i.e. better] men are already taken". | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/02/19 08:17 PM |
| 3 | Do women actually want children? Or is it just a way to lock down resources?Janus and Janus (1993) found that men were slightly more eager than women to report wanting to have a baby regardless of whether they married or remained single, and also more likely than women to agree that parenthood is the highest human attainment. Still, these findings do not rule out the hypothesis that women actually engage in sex for the extrinsic goal of having a baby more often (or more eagerly) than men. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5f84/46340d4ed375007351539e7993fa44e2e31b.pdf (Ba… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/02/19 02:00 PM |
| 3 | Partner choice (by proxy of mating success) and health are likely only weakly correlated (Foo 2017)Bodyguard Hypothesis: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-5985-6_21 | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/02/19 08:12 AM |
| 5 | The Ultimate Male Horniness and Female Dependence Compilationwell some of it anyway Men also often display blushing and hiding behavior near women. For both sexes there is a fear of losing face for aiming too high which is also described in Eibl-Eibesfeldt or some of the papers by Grammer he cited, IIRC. Women just display this behavior a lot more (they also score higher in withdrawal in personality tests). To me it seems, for men, this fear is more associated with challenging other high status males who compete for the same women and losing to them. For … | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/02/19 12:43 AM |
| 7 | Partner choice (by proxy of mating success) and health are likely only weakly correlated (Foo 2017)So Roger Fisher is likely wrong. Tinder is not "one of the best implementations of eugenics in modern society" as it's likely poor eugenics regarding health. (Also Tinder possibly selects other undesirable traits like impatience/low inhibition.) | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/02/19 02:56 PM |
| 5 | The Ultimate Benefits of (Female) Companionship CompilationThere's a major bias at play in all these studies There is likely such a bias in some of these studies, but clearly not in all of them. I've decided to put studies prone to this bias (the ones that only show a correlation) into a separate category. Women marry or have relationships with healthy […] men People do not seem to choose their partners based on health very effectively (they mostly choose based on looks, and looks only correlate weakly with health), so that should also attenuate the bia… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/02/19 05:01 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Benefits of (Female) Companionship CompilationI never knew black pill was most about men being involuntarily single, I always thoight it was about the truth of attraction and the importance of looks. There are lot of definitions of the black pill. I understand it as a red pill (a suppressed truth) where the locus control is external (determinism). Here I was referring to the black pill regarding singlehood. Which made me hard to understand why dudes get so upset when the are single, because I enjoy myself plentyfull alone. You have already … | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/02/19 09:44 PM |
| 10 | The Ultimate Benefits of (Female) Companionship CompilationTrue, the correlations between life satisfaction/happiness and singlehood are not perfect, but still moderate to large AFAIK. Voluntary and temporary singlehood are different from adult virginity or permanent singlehood though. The experience of being rejected by everyone is possibly rather where the true black pill lies. Compare for example this excerpt from George Orwell's "Down and Out in Paris and London": It will be seen from these figures that at the charity level men outnumber women by so… | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/02/19 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Are there any papers supporting that being darker is better than lighter for males?https://epc2012.princeton.edu/papers/120187 | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/01/19 03:11 PM |
| 12 | Women consistently rate men with higher levels of narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy as more attractiveNope, from the abstract: "Physicality was held constant." | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/01/19 03:02 PM |
| 9 | Why Do Women Fall for Serial Killers?2) seems plausible. The ability to maintain high status despite treating others badly (DT) is a costly signal of status (it is robust evidence of high status because it is hard/costly to fake). Another possibility might be that it's mostly runaway sexual selection much like beauty. Initially, DT might have had an adaptive advantage, e.g. dominant males could perhaps better protect the offspring, which caused females to evolve to be attracted to DT. But that increased the evolutionary pressure on… | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/01/19 01:30 PM |
| 3 | How much deviation is there between relative opinions of people's attractiveness. Any studies on this?Note that the claim in Wood (2009) that women have more diverse taste is dubious as I discussed here: http://reddit.com/comments/abnci7/_/ed3qa1k/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/01/19 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Virginity is a social construct broSTDs are an obvious downside, but in the happiness graph it is not clear whether high partner counts is actually the cause. It could be that women with high partner counts have shittier lives to begin with and are thus less happy, but also more promiscuous/less socialized. There is some evidence for the link though, e.g this N = 1,294 study found that controlling for traditionalism, women with premarital partners to less likely be in the top 40% on a measure of overall marital quality (42% vs 35… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/01/19 10:46 PM |
| 2 | Women are more shallow than men when it comes to looks: A nice smile is ranked as more important than a good personality. (Remescar survey)YW. I added three more sources to the first parentheses. most women really care more what other people think about your personality than what it is actually like. It's basically again preference for status in disguise. That's the only part I still could not find solid evidence for. So far it's only based on anecdotes I've read in forums and the fact that personality correlates ridiculously strongly with attractiveness, and that's also mostly about status I suspect. https://i.imgur.com/RdCibZR.pn… | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/01/19 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Women are more shallow than men when it comes to looks: A nice smile is ranked as more important than a good personality. (Remescar survey)Done. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/01/19 01:56 PM |
| 24 | Divorce risk is 10-20% higher with uneven sex ratios at work (Uggla & Andersson 2018)If simply the availability of potential mates makes relationships less stable, then online dating apps probably also have that effect. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/01/19 10:00 AM |
| 4 | The influence of intelligence on the endorsement of the intelligence–attractiveness haloRatings by participants who scored higher on the intelligence test showed a stronger relationship between perceptions of intelligence and attractiveness than participants who scored lower on the intelligence test. Really interesting. Perhaps smarter people experience beauty more intensely and/or more accurately? | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/01/19 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Women are much more likely than men to gossip about relatives and friends and criticize them in a derogatory tone (trash-talk them)Women are 1.2 SD more interested in people at birth, and they have been likely under substantially more selective pressure to navigate closely knit social networks because they spent most of their time throughout history at home with other women essentially gossiping and preparing food all day. Women who can keep up with the latest rumors, and manipulate other women's reputation could win the intra-sexual competition and get access to higher quality males. That possibility also explains their su… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/01/19 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Women are much more likely than men to gossip about relatives and friends and criticize them in a derogatory tone (trash-talk them)The proportion of women trash-talking their relatives and friends is much higher than the proportion of men doing that. Yes that's implied by what I said. I was just clarifying this in case someone misunderstood your submission title. BTW, which page are you referring to in the book? I could ctrl-f'ed "derogatory" and could not find anything. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/01/19 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Women are much more likely than men to gossip about relatives and friends and criticize them in a derogatory tone (trash-talk them)https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a4wko9/women_gossip_more_often_than_men_about_physical/ There does not seem to be a sex difference in derogatory tone, but women definitely gossip more about friends and relatives and physical appearance. | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/01/19 11:06 AM |
| 1 | My 10+2 theory of roasties.Not science, delete this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/01/19 06:21 PM |
| 6 | High Status Men (But Not Women) Capture the Eye of the BeholderRelated: Attractive women capture the eye of the beholder. Even women fixiate their attention on women longer than than on men. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0207477 (Mitrovic 2018) | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/01/19 03:17 AM |
| 4 | Females are four times more sensitive than males to economic status cues when rating opposite sex attractiveness, indicating that higher economic status can offset lower physical attractiveness in men much more easily than in women.It's the link above. It's only the title that is outdated. | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/01/19 02:43 AM |
| 26 | Females are four times more sensitive than males to economic status cues when rating opposite sex attractiveness, indicating that higher economic status can offset lower physical attractiveness in men much more easily than in women.The four times figure is from some preprint manuscript. It is actually 1,000 times based on a different measure: We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/01/19 12:20 AM |
| 1 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?Hm, no I haven't, thanks for the input. My data was based on questionnaires, I think there are often translation issues with such questionnaires. Though it might actually be different in China, perhaps you are talking about the US? This is the study I was referring to: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtfdPA7WkAIqZV0.jpg https://doi.org/10.1177%2F1069397118813306 | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/01/19 11:19 PM |
| 1 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?True, though there is something about the "I love her and she loves me back" mentality that strikes me as suspicious, e.g. in China the notion of "true love" this is much less prevalent and it is more marriage is more transactional, so I think intimacy might largely be cultural. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/01/19 10:00 PM |
| 4 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?I wonder if it also applies to chimp societies Female chimps are more promiscuous and seemingly not as choosy. Male chimps use aggression against females to constrain their mate choices. Female animals tend to be more valuable for survival as they carry the offspring and because one male can typically impregnate many females (implying that fewer males are needed to maintain the population, so an excess of males deminishes their value quickly), so one will probably find some sort of gynocentrism … | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/01/19 05:12 PM |
| 9 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?True, wage slavery is also an important aspect and could maybe be subsumed under envy or more generally a perception of injustice. This is also aggravated by gynocentric memes that there is nothing good about men. Gynocentrism is likely innate to humans, e.g. women are known to have a massive in-group preference for their own sex, and both sexes are likely hardwired to regard females as more valuable, see e.g. the links here: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/afrbuc/ssc_survey_res… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/01/19 01:52 PM |
| 13 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?Maslow's hierarchy is bluepilled. It is fairly accurate for women, except self-actualization is not a need for them at all (women actually reduce their reproductive fitness with high status and they are more agreeable, submissive, and less status driven to begin with). Men mostly need social status in shape of esteem and some amount of self-actualization, ability to extract resources, superior status to women etc., before they can get intimacy and social belonging. There are also various feedbac… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/01/19 01:44 PM |
| 19 | [Question] are there any studies about the importance of sex?Here are some relevant studies about the importance of sex or more generally of intimacy and female companionship and acceptance: Satisfying relationships not only make us happy, they also influence our long-term health as much as getting enough sleep, eating healthy, and not smoking. Many research studies have shown that satisfying relationships are associated with better health, greater happiness, and even a longer life. This effect is not limited to romantic relationships; close friendships a… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/01/19 04:00 AM |
| 24 | How much deviation is there between relative opinions of people's attractiveness. Any studies on this?What you are looking for is inter-rater agreement or inter-rater correlation. The measure most often used for this is Cronbach's α (see the sidebar). For attractiveness ratings this is typically around α = .90 which is very high (1.0 is the highest value). Your observation is exactly right: There is high agreement in the extremes and lower agreement in the middle (this is also necessary for very attractive and unattractive people to exist at all because you need ratings of low variance for the r… | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/01/19 02:01 AM |
| 11 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% femaleThey don't have it, unfortunately. I might look it up myself later. Edit 1: The sub does not seem large enough to get good estimates. However, the corrected shares for /r/BDSM and /r/BDSMcommunity are 60% and 75% female respectively. Edit 2: It seems to be 56 males vs 44 females on /r/rapekink (corrected 62% female) based on a sample of 51,338 males and 34,920 females (not very reliable due to a small sample size though). | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/01/19 05:57 PM |
| 17 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% femaleIt's still in their index, 27.5% female (so probably around 38%). | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/01/19 04:49 AM |
| 8 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% femaleassuming this information is correct In my experience the gender ratios estimates by bburky.com are correct within ±10% or so. E.g. /r/unresolvedmysteries was predicted to have ~55.8% females, but in a recent survey it was 65% (though either could have selection bias). I've seen similar differences in other contexts, e.g. /r/books (42% vs 40% males), /r/TaylorSwift (42% vs 41% males) and similar /r/television (49% vs 59% males). Why? http://doi.org/10.1007/s12147-015-9142-5 http://doi.org/10.108… | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/01/19 08:42 PM |
| 4 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% femaleI'm seeing this: https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/EMSJMDL36bWfG4KT1qOyRUxqwjjjXY3vlpprV_FuEZc.png "Stay sexy, don't get murdered." | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/01/19 06:40 PM |
| 14 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% femaleThey harvested info from subs like /r/relationship_advice, /r/fitness and others in which people are encouraged to state their sex in their flair, and then looked up which subreddits they are active in. | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/01/19 06:19 PM |
| 56 | /r/serialkillers, /r/truecrime, /r/missingperson, /r/CrimeScene all have 60-75% female subscribers (~70-90% when correcting for the overall male surplus on Reddit). /r/myfavoritemurder is 87% female/r/police is 11.3% female, rendering it implausible that interest in law enforcement and justice causes this pattern. Links to the mentioned subs and more: Subreddit females females (corrected) /r/myfavoritemurder 86.9% 93.7% /r/TrueCrimeDiscussion 76.4% 87.8% /r/TrueCrime 75.8% 87.5% /r/criminalminds 67.7% 82.3% /r/MissingPersons 67.2% 82.0% /r/unresolvedmysteries 55.8% (65%) 80.5% /r/CrimeScene 62.6% 78.8% /r/serialkillers 56.9% 74.6% Correcting for 31/69 sex ratio on Reddit by x' = (x / 31) … | /r/BlackPillScience | 14/01/19 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Lurker here with something off topicWhat you're saying might apply to more formal hierarchies, e.g. in professional or academic contexts, but it's does not fully explain social life in general. For example, the same joke told by a more attractive person is perceived as funnier than by an unattractive person, so perceived wit (and likely also the perceived degree of "having figured things out") is actually modulated by physical traits. The only context in which this becomes irrelevant is when selection is merely about cognitive and… | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/01/19 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Lurker here with something off topica more fluid hierarchy of following the person designated being the person that "knows what they are doing" There is a lot of evidence that this hierarchy is largely determined by physical appearance and physical dominance, at least in non-professional contexts (e.g. attractiveness is highly correlated with perceived trustworthiness and intelligence). There is likely a minimum level of attractiveness required before "having figured things out" makes a difference. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/01/19 11:49 PM |
| 9 | This is why women are pickier than men on dating sitesThere are two factors which even aggravate this besides menstruation: Firstly, men have a higher sex drive. Secondly, women in their best years, i.e. aged ~17-29, have a very large group of potential partners, namely men between ~18 and ~40. Conversely, older women are typically not interested in younger men and young men typically not in older women. The latter is further aggravated by three trends: Firstly, divorce is becoming more socially accepted, so older men can free themselves and remarr… | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/01/19 07:00 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Hypergamy CompilationThanks for the feedback. That's exactly the effect I'm after. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/01/19 09:32 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Hypergamy CompilationToday's hunter gatherers are NOT representative of all others before them. For one, they are Hunter gatherers because of their religion and not because of necessity. If you put real hunter gatherers (our ancestors) on one side, and hippy millionaires who become hunter gatherers because f society on the other, they would be a lot closer to the millionaires. It still happens way too rarely for this top be the normal behavior! I just don't see it. See for yourself what women are saying about it. Se… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/01/19 12:52 PM |
| 20 | Study: More physically attractive women tend to have more intelligent husbandsMen's attractiveness is positively correlated with IQ below 120 and negatively beyond that. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289617301551 Though smarter men can ascend higher in socioeconomic status without diminishing returns or reversal, which might explain this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/01/19 06:52 PM |
| 16 | Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness.Indeed, women give around 2 times more importance to the face than the body. http://doi.org/10.1016/j.anbehav.2006.07.012 (Peters 2006) Though there was another study finding that dominance is more important than looks, so women do not choose much at all, but mating success is mostly determined by intrasexual competition: https://psyarxiv.com/edw4f/ (Kordsmeyer, 2018) Results from structural equation models and selection analyses revealed that physical dominance, but not sexual attractiveness, p… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/01/19 10:45 PM |
| 5 | 15% of men, receive 50% of all likes given out by women.Just to be clear, 85/15 is wrong, the article states that for likes it's 50/15 and a Gini of 0.542 which should roughly correspond to 70/20. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/01/19 03:16 AM |
| 8 | 15% of men, receive 50% of all likes given out by women.The article mentions a Gini index of 0.324 (~50/20) for males in terms of connections made and 0.542 (~70/20) for likes received. Someone came up with an estimate based on GSS data here: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9ws8qz/why_are_young_people_having_so_little_sex/e9oax92/ For never married men age 22-35 the top 20% has 52-73% of the partnerships, probably high 60s. For never married women age 22-35 the top 20% has 42-62% of the partnerships, probably high 50s. Some of the pa… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/01/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | How transform look improvements into more hook ups?I doubt there is science on this and even if there was, it's not relevant to this sub. You'll have better chances on /r/seduction or /r/TheRedPill. Please delete this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/01/19 01:55 PM |
| 1 | "The wall" men vs women. A rant.What does stating scientific facts have to do with video games? | /r/ExRedPill | 01/01/19 09:15 PM |
| 1 | "The wall" men vs women. A rant.You are responding to a strawman version of the wall. The wall is not literally a wall, but a steady decrease in sexual market value that exists for women, but not for men: https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2018/08/Screen_Shot_2018_08_09_at_2.52.05_PM/6de2f9376.png https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ Women peak around age 20 and after that their SMV steadily goes down. This implies that it will become harder for them to at… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/01/19 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Prevalence and predictors of sexual inexperience in adulthood.I pretty much had the same questions when I read it. The blog article was also discussed this thread and /u/WavesAcross could reproduce the rising sexlessness from GSS and also an estimate for ??/20 for women. 80/20 seems unlikely for the general population, more like ~68/20 for men and ~58/20 for women, the sample sizes are too small to draw solid conclusions though. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/01/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Are males becoming less masculine and females more feminine?Looks like it only accounts for 1% of the estrogens found in drinking water: http://paleoforwomen.com/is-there-birth-control-in-your-drinking-water/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/01/19 06:05 PM |
| 4 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationHaha, I know. Though I also had to overcome various stages of disbelief in the recent years, so I'm generous with giving benefits of doubt. | /r/BlackPillScience | 01/01/19 05:39 PM |
| 4 | Prevalence and predictors of sexual inexperience in adulthood.This is a 1980±1.92 born cohort with data until 2008. More recent data is here: https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/12/18 12:39 AM |
| 1 | What is the most important physical features of a female that makes her attractive?Another explanation is that swollen female breasts and beauty in general serve no purpose whatsoever, but simply evolved in a positive feedback loop (Fisherian runaway) much like antlers, the peacock tail or the chicken comb. It works like this: First, females evolve larger breasts because men find that attractive (perhaps because they look a bit like buttocks), and then men evolve to be more sensitive to larger breasts because that promises offspring with large breasts. But male's increased pre… | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/12/18 12:05 AM |
| 13 | Study Finds Women Are More Attracted To Men Who Are TakenThis study found that women copy all kinds of choices, not just mate-choices. It seems to be evidence of women's more agreeable and conforming nature. | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/12/18 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Evidence of Juggernaut Law? Very unattractive women (not men) are more likely to be married than others. (Kanazawa 2018)I think this is also plausible. More attractive women might have fewer opportunities to switch mates. Though what's interesting is that there is a trough where just unattractive (not very unattractive) women are the least likely to be married and more attractive women are again more likely to be married at 29. Kanazawa's own explanation is that it's mostly well-earning intelligent men who date down excessively and who are then very good providers, so the women have no financial incentives to swi… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/12/18 08:05 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Hypergamy CompilationThat was an online survey of like 6K people. It's not reliable at all. Ovulation only lasts about for like 12-24 hours, and sperm only live for like 4 days inside the woman. The timing might have been not perfect, but if it was a large effect it should show despite imperfect timing as the timing of the answers likely coincided with the time window you mention often enough. "8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man" This seems to be the paper in question: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go… | /r/BlackPillScience | 26/12/18 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?i did bring up to my leftist Swedish family Haha, I hope it did not ruin it for you. I can't see how "more things in common" could explain hypergamy. Men's copulation opportunities seem to correlate with the male-female difference in human capital. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/12/18 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?Interesting, but it still does not explain any of the other data. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/12/18 02:56 PM |
| 2 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?If you are bisexual, then you might lack the typical male and female ways of perceiving the opposite sex, i.e. through the lens of satyriasis and coyness, respectively. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/12/18 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?I'd say 60% Sorry to question the statistics machine in your brain, but I don't think it's good enough to tell that reliably from simply observing people in public. :P Also this is (mostly) M→F vs F→M ratings and you can probably make only one of them as you are either male or female. | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/12/18 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?if you rated the person (4-5) they got notified That's important to know, thanks. Though in the other dating platform in Kraeger (2014) the difference in ratings was even larger and the study does not mention notifications. Its like they gave a ruler to both men and women and men used it to measure everything so they got the mean average, while women used it to see what measured up What do you mean by this? I think the real number is about 60% below average, and if people would put more effort i… | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/12/18 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Are sex differences in attractiveness ratings larger in online dating than elsewhere?Thanks for the link! Chimpanzees not only show the same sex ratio in selection as attractiveness ratings, they also show the same direct aggression sex ratios: In humans, males are 90% of killers and 78% of victims. In chimpanzees and bonobos, males are 92% of killers and 73% of victims. http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf (2014) https://www.nature.com/articles/nature13727 (Wilson 2014) https://twitter.com/SteveStuWill/status/947279510172450816 1% of the mal… | /r/BlackPillScience | 24/12/18 11:09 AM |
| 10 | Evidence of Juggernaut Law? Very unattractive women (not men) are more likely to be married than others. (Kanazawa 2018)My thinking was that it is a combination of the two. Very unattractive women are probably unaware of JL themselves, so they underestimate their SMV and are happy with what they get. The study is very indirect evidence of JL. If JL was false, then one would expect very unattractive women to be less likely to find a partner, which is not the case at all. So it's weak evidence at best, but still funny and still kinda a blackpill as the same effect does not seem to exist significantly for males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/12/18 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Study of over 250 male geniuses (scientists, writers, artists, etc.) concludes that marriage is a cue to “desist” and is a psychological mechanism to stop working.That could also be a factor. The last study above suggests it is a fixed biological schedule rather than external factors, but I have not looked deeper into it. Presumably it also occurs in healthy males who eat healthy and have reasonable working times (just a guess). | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 06:48 PM |
| 7 | Study of over 250 male geniuses (scientists, writers, artists, etc.) concludes that marriage is a cue to “desist” and is a psychological mechanism to stop working.Paper in question: http://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/jrp2003.pdf Kanazawa suggested that this is due to testosterone (T) and it seems science on this has been done in the meanwhile which confirms that. T concentrations are highest in males who compete because T modulates the value of the goal of reaching higher social status (presence of T makes high status more valuable). A single-dose T administration causes men to regard status goods as more valuable: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/18 01:45 AM |
| 31 | Evidence of Juggernaut Law? Very unattractive women (not men) are more likely to be married than others. (Kanazawa 2018)As a reminder, Juggernaut Law states that women with obvious flaws have surprisingly many suitors because their flaws trick men into believing that they are an easy target. More evidence from OkCupid is here (click the archive link in one of the comments as the article itself was taken down): https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8e7qy0/empirical_support_for_juggernaut_law/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/12/18 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Are males becoming less masculine and females more feminine?Other explanations might be better child health, cosmetics: https://doi.org/10.1093/humrep/dey337 | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/12/18 06:51 PM |
| 6 | Are males becoming less masculine and females more feminine?Yes, at the same time women are taught to behave in more masculine ways. People with deeper voices tend to be more successful and women's voice has dropped by roughly a whole tone between 1945 and 1990, possibly because women figure out that they get ahead when they talk more confidently and with a deeper voice (they excluded smokers, so it can't be that). http://doi.org/10.1016/S0892-1997(98)80040-4 http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20180612-the-reasons-why-womens-voices-are-deeper-today | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/12/18 06:06 PM |
| 5 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness Compilationphysical attractiveness is A MOVING TARGET Not really. There is some cultural variance, e.g. a man wearing 18th century wig would nowadays probably be seen as weird and lose .5/10 points or so (or more if he is unattractive in the first place), but there is likely strong genetic constancy in what is attractive because Fisherian Runaway has selected us to recognize that very easily. There has been no era in history in which it was en vogue to have a receding chin or a crooked nose. | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/12/18 01:35 AM |
| 3 | Are males becoming less masculine and females more feminine?Indeed, thanks. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 09:43 PM |
| 2 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationEssentially all of the height advantage in, say, income is down to higher IQ. How does this square with this: Looking at the genetic variants that suggest the person would be tall or short, regardless of nutrition or environment, the men with the genes that will likely lead them to be tall, have about £2,940 (about $4,175) higher annual household income. The correlation was about 50% stronger in men. Short women are in luck. There was no real household income difference between short and tall wo… | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 06:07 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationThanks! Re that last link: That paper has unfortunately poor quality. By genetic correlation are you referring to IQ-attractiveness correlation? Didn't more recent meta studies show that this correlation is tiny? I thought income attractiveness correlation is larger than that. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 06:00 PM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationEssentially all of the height advantage in, say, income is down to higher IQ. Source please. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 02:29 PM |
| 3 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationMissed that one, thanks. I would not be surprised if it has multiple causes. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Revealing Hidden Gender Biases in Competence Impressions of FacesThe interrater reliabilities of the impression attractiveness ratings were high (competence: α = .90, attractiveness: α = .90). | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 01:08 AM |
| 2 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationWhy? This is age difference at first marriage. | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 12:12 AM |
| 1 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationNot sure. Are you concerned it's not up to the same standards as the other compilations? What is OVB? | /r/BlackPillScience | 21/12/18 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Once more about that graph in "Your Looks and Your Inbox": Do women care more about looks than men?One can also quantify the difference more directly without the sketchy rescaling: m[-1] / m[-2] and f[-1] / f[-2] evaluate to 1.35 and 1.16 respectively, i.e. the number of messages sent are more sensitive to women's ratings among the top two percentiles of attractiveness, i.e. women care more about looks in the most attractive regime and robustly so. On the other hand, m[-1] / m[0] and f[-1] / f[0] evaluate to 13.53 and 27.14. This ratio is, on the other hand, very sensitive to a minimal number… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/12/18 09:45 PM |
| 5 | The Ultimate Physical Attractiveness CompilationI did not write it's insignificant and it is in fact significant, but it's still a weak correlation. Depression is likely also uninteresting for the argument because for unattractive people it is likely mostly caused by socially exclusion due to being ugly, not by genetics directly. The other diseases they considered have an even shallower slope. The other one with steep slope, high blood pressure, is also likely uninteresting as it is mostly a result of poor lifestyle and depression. https://ar… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/12/18 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Once more about that graph in "Your Looks and Your Inbox": Do women care more about looks than men?For the graph above I computed m = (f.sum() / m.sum()) * m with the data from my previous post linked above. For the 49% figure I subtracted the hypothesized "incoming message base rate" of 0.22536 from m such that the least attractive males receive just as many messages as the least attractive females after doing the computation above. Subtracting the same from females only changes the message premium of attractive women by .5%. | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/12/18 05:34 PM |
| 7 | The Ultimate Hypergamy CompilationFirst, attractiveness changes A LOT based on the person's state of mind. This is not true for the extremes though. People agree strongly about who is very attractive and very unattractive. This is called Dual-mating strategy and it allows females to have a baby with both, Chad's genes and Beta-Male's resources (money). The dual-mating hypothesis suffered some replication failures in recent years, e.g. this study found that women do not significantly change their preference for masculine faces wi… | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/12/18 02:29 AM |
| 26 | Study finds no significant differences regarding self-esteem, sociability and sexual permissiveness between online dating users and the general population. (Gatter et al. 2016)Also no difference between Tinder and other platforms. | /r/BlackPillScience | 16/12/18 11:56 AM |
| 13 | 'Hey': short messages are the best dating site strategy, study saysBlackpill: Women do not even care about courtship efforts by males. Coyness is commonly mistaken for a thoughtful evaluation of personality, when in truth it is just the combination of two instinctive strategies: Firstly, it keeps open the possibility that a male with higher status shows up in the meanwhile who can protect against other contenders (bodyguard hypothesis) and, secondly, the harder the man has to try, the more valuable the woman becomes due to the sunk cost fallacy, so it also ensu… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/12/18 09:15 PM |
| 8 | Women are more shallow than men when it comes to looks: A nice smile is ranked as more important than a good personality. (Remescar survey)Social science cannot be fully trusted because it has become a monoculture. The picture I am gathering is this: In absolute terms, women care more about looks than men, but they also care about wealth or more generally status, so men, but not women, can improve their chances by status (source, source, source, source). Personality traits only play a role at moderate attractiveness and above (source), and even then most women really care more what other people think about your personality than wha… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/12/18 06:44 PM |
| 8 | Should I trust you? Autistic traits predict reduced appearance‐based trust decisionsless likely to fall for feminist bullshit I think the ethical/theoretical angle of feminism makes it actually very attractive to autists, as well as the prospect of being rewarded for being a good boy while evading the hierarchies that are also not very welcoming to autistic oddballs. I've encountered many such people. However, maybe the same analytic skills also help to eventually reject it while normies will have internalized it only on an emotional not analytical level. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/12/18 06:47 PM |
| 2 | Lifetime Childlessness Has No Impact on Depressive Mood and Quality of Life Among Older EuropeansThis is obviously true for young people. Social exclusion and sexual frustration are interrelated and clearly sources of suffering. But at higher age the longing for children makes less sense evolutionarily, mainly because people become less fertile with age and birth complications become more common, but also because it is a group advantage for people without children to be simply helpful to the group and not mourn about their missed opportunities (though group selection is not very strong effe… | /r/MGTOW | 13/12/18 06:04 PM |
| 7 | Women gossip more often than men about physical appearance (d=-0.8) and they gossip about 2.5 times as often about close friends and relatives.but it is relatively easy to meet male standards for looks Is that true? Based on anecdotes women gossip also a lot about broad shoulders or cute hairs of guys. They also rate 80% of men as below average in looks. Lots of my male acquaintances lift weights and some use anti-aging cream. | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/12/18 05:15 PM |
| 6 | Women gossip more often than men about physical appearance (d=-0.8) and they gossip about 2.5 times as often about close friends and relatives.Women's domain is near the home (the private), whereas men's domain is rather the coordination of resource extraction and negotiation of the conditions of coexistence with neighboring tribes (the public). Of course there are exceptions and overlap, but e.g. in 97% of historic societies in the Standard Sample, women exclusively or predominantly did the cooking which suggests that women have formed tightly knit, gossipy and domestic social networks throughout human history. | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/12/18 06:55 PM |
| 4 | Youtube Rewind 2018 - A prime example of how you should NOT add gynocentric agenda into your products.You need to view this through the lens of marketing. Moms are a fucking huge target group of the entertainment industry because they spend a lot of time at home. That's why women overall read a lot more books and watch a lot more TV. YouTube is male-dominated because of its chaotic and experimental nature. It's kind of "meeting the other tribes" in our ancestral intuition, which is the male domain. So this is likely not as much feminist gynocentrism, as much as it is an attempt to sell the platf… | /r/MGTOW | 11/12/18 04:45 PM |
| 5 | Women gossip more often than men about physical appearance (d=-0.8) and they gossip about 2.5 times as often about close friends and relatives.In some contexts men do talk more than women, especially in large, mixed-sex groups. My (unfounded) assumption is that gossip in larger groups is a bit more civilized and less personal; it's unlikely to be about secrets shared among friends, but it can easily be about rumors which could of course be just as personal, but this is probably rarer. But that probably also depends on context, especially on the informal vs formal dimension (locker room vs student lounge vs class room vs meeting). I can… | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/12/18 03:29 PM |
| 10 | You’re OK Until You Misbehave: How Norm Violations Magnify the Attractiveness Devil EffectIn the high violation, the perceptions of the facially attractive male’s personality (M = -.40, SD = 2.26) were significantly less negative ratings than the perceptions of facially unattractive male’s personality (M = -1.01, SD = 2.06), t(167) = -1.85, pone-tailed .05. Nice halo effect. More attractive males are perceived as having a better personality. | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/12/18 05:34 PM |
| 8 | Women gossip more often than men about physical appearance (d=-0.8) and they gossip about 2.5 times as often about close friends and relatives.I'm assuming you are referring to Watson (2012). They have used this questionnaire: http://doi.org/10.1177/0013164493053004010 Questionnaires with Likert scales tend to underestimate group differences because everyone tends to answer with their own group as reference point since groups tend to stick to themselves. So it is possible that the sex difference is larger than -.8 (which is already large). | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/12/18 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Females on Tinder like profiles with higher education relative to their own 92% more often, and profiles with lower education 45.4% less often. Males did not care about relative higher education, but they also liked less educated women 10.1% less often. (Neyt et al. 2018)Right, men can make up for many points in physical attractiveness by resources… within bounds. However, females remain the more choosy sex across the lifespan, so even though women might put, say, 80% weight on looks and 20% on resources, and men put 100% weight on looks, it holds true that women are 125% as choosy, so in effect they care 100% about looks and 25% about resources in addition to that. An ugly face will elicit disgust in a female as much (if not more) as it does in males. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/12/18 11:50 PM |
| 1 | In online dating, even the most attractive men barely receive as many messages as the most unattractive women.I combined your graph with another one from Dataclysm to compute the average number of incoming messages of male and female users: It amounts to 0.49 messages/week for males and 5.77 messages/week for females and a M:F ratio of ~1:12. Some of this can be explained by an overall gender imbalance, but the imbalance is not large actually: 54:46 M:F Accounting for that, it would still be (50/46) .49 = .53, (50/54) 5.77 = 5.34, so still ~1:10. | /r/BlackPillScience | 07/12/18 05:13 AM |
| 1 | The black pill that we must all cope with as menNot science, delete this. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/12/18 03:39 PM |
| 1 | In online dating, even the most attractive men barely receive as many messages as the most unattractive women.Interesting. This is a ratio of ~1:10, which is a lot more than on other dating platforms, e.g. here it is ~1:5: https://i.imgur.com/DfBpBEP.png And here it is also 2.3 : 11.4 ≈ 1:5 in initial messages. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442 (Hitsch 2006) | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/12/18 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Interracial divorce rates compared to white couples (Yellow=Asian)I'm wondering why NE Asians have a quite high IQ despite high degree of inbreeding. It seems inbreeding depression on IQ is often highly confounded by race and SES, so is it actually not a large effect? Or do populations evolve to deal with the mutational load (much like dropout in neural networks)? | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/12/18 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Truth and Consequences: Using the Bogus Pipeline to Examine Sex Differences in Self-Reported SexualityThey did not get a significant result for partner counts though, if I'm understanding this correctly. The two-way ANOVA on self-reports of the number of sexual partners yielded no significant effects , F < 1 | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/12/18 12:31 AM |
| 9 | Interracial divorce rates compared to white couples (Yellow=Asian)It is presently argued that such anatomical differences are a testament to a more peaceably monogamous mating history. Yet, Japan appears to be the most hypergamous civilization of all. https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/over-75-percent-of-japanese-women-say-they’ve-slept-with-a-male-coworker-survey https://www.businessinsider.com.au/japanese-government-dating-services-2016-10?r=US&IR=T Perhaps {collectivism, high inhibition, high IQ} is what kept hypergamy in check in the past (… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/12/18 04:08 PM |
| 1 | A compilation of research about women preferring assholes before nice guysIt should be noted that both DT and BS are submissive preferences, so the two things are not even entirely diametrical. | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/12/18 01:57 AM |
| 3 | [Blackpill 101] Women's Sexual Strategies: The Evolution of Long-Term Bonds and Extrapair SexThe dual mating hypothesis has more holes than Swiss cheese: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/David_Buss/publication/306418216_The_mate_switching_hypothesis/links/5a1aa6cb4585155c26ac8a79/The-mate-switching-hypothesis.pdf Several pieces of empirical evidence are consistent with the mate switching hypothesis, but cannot be easily explained by the dual mating strategy hypothesis. First, relationship dissatisfaction is one of the most powerful predictors of women's actual infidelity, but not me… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/12/18 03:13 AM |
| 4 | Bodily attractiveness and egalitarianism are negatively related in males.Correlations of -.66 to -.77 for male targets and -.61 to -.67 for female targets? That seems absurdly strong. It was late and I did not read the study correctly. The numbers above above are for "perceived egalitarianism", so people attribute much more egalitarianism to less attractive people. For "observed egalitarianism" (a compound score of some economic game outcomes plus a questionnaire about egalitarian philosophies) it is -.30* (attractiveness) and -.36** (generalized attractiveness) for … | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/12/18 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Education Level and Mating Success: Undercover on TinderRepost: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/9zhhzp/females_on_tinder_like_profiles_with_higher/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/12/18 04:25 PM |
| 3 | A compilation of research about women preferring assholes before nice guysContradictory preferences are actually pretty common in nature. The fight or flight response is a prime example thereof: You could either decimate the enemy or save your own life; both has advantages and disadvantages in expectation, hence, evolution has equipped us for both, even though it is diametrical. In a dangerous situation we want both at the same time, but some behavioral process decides for one of them. Another example is female coyness. Women want to reproduce, but at the same time th… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/11/18 10:56 PM |
| 22 | Females on Tinder like profiles with higher education relative to their own 92% more often, and profiles with lower education 45.4% less often. Males did not care about relative higher education, but they also liked less educated women 10.1% less often. (Neyt et al. 2018)This should be seen in the context that "male subjects (super)liked 61.9% of the female evaluated profiles, while female subjects (super)liked only 4.5% of the male evaluated profiles." (from the same paper). Women are only willing to take education status into account once the man in question has passed the initial evaluation for looks and they are about as choosy about looks as males (if not more). Women just much less often find looks alone attractive, hell, they rarely feel very much attract… | /r/BlackPillScience | 22/11/18 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Study Request - Anything on the psychology of bluepillersPinker, Haidt and Peterson have written and/or talked a lot about political correctness & SJWs. Pinker believes it is fundamentally fear of inequality, imperfectability, extremism etc. Haidt conjectured the main issue is a coddled elite that ends up limiting freedom of speech and thought because of oversensitivity. Peterson believes it is partly due to resentful underpaid Marxist (idiot) professors, partly due to the infectiousness of Marxist memes (because oppressor-vs-oppressed memes provide a… | /r/BlackPillScience | 10/10/18 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Correction: Gender pay gap decreases with less attractiveness but it does not reverseglass ceiling … ugly men are more likely to remain unmarried This reminded me of this study which actually found an opposite effect between unattractive and very unattractive people: http://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X17302204 look at how equally attractiveness is distributed between classes but this is going to be difficult because a lot of higher-status people could end up being categorized as unattractive due to age - I can't think of any decent way t… | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/10/18 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Correction: Gender pay gap decreases with less attractiveness but it does not reverseYes, and as I wrote later the slopes are not significantly different anyhow. This is kind of causation by (hopefully) complete case differentiation (asking "what else could it be"), but that's not how it's done in science. IQ correlates weakly with attractiveness (.07), but IQ and income also only correlate weakly (.2), so IQ cannot explain much of the overall slope. | /r/BlackPillScience | 06/10/18 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Correction: Gender pay gap decreases with less attractiveness but it does not reverseIn a previous post I overlooked that the data actually controlled for gender, so the lines ended up being overlapped because controlling for sex means that the data was changed such that both sexes have the same mean income. I tried to reproduce the linked study and this is what I came up with. I controlled for age, federate state and education level and additionally health status. Controlling for social class makes the slopes for both sexes roughly equal, which suggests that only in lower class… | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/10/18 08:43 PM |
| 2 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 incheshttps://quillette.com/2017/12/16/romanticizing-hunter-gatherer/ Such cultures might have existed, but they were likely not the norm, also because analyzing human DNA reveals that males reproduced only half as often as females. Lots of males likely died during hunting which was an almost exclusively male activity, while cooking was almost exclusively a female activity. | /r/BlackPillScience | 05/10/18 01:39 AM |
| 1 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesThey have probably been moderately polygamous (1 male:many females), but not as much as gorillas, where the alpha male animal typically has exclusive access to ~7 females. But also not as promiscuous (many:many) as chimps. Humans are somewhere between chimps and gorillas. Gorilla: 1 ounce testicles at .02% of body weight with 50 million sperm per ejaculate. Chimpanzee: 4 ounces testicles at .3% of body weight at 600 million sperm per ejaculate. Human: 1.5 ounces testicles at .04-.08% body weight… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/10/18 11:35 PM |
| 1 | The gender pay gap deminishes (reverses?) with decreasing attractiveness [OC]Link to the paper: http://ftp.iza.org/dp5664.pdf | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/10/18 12:09 AM |
| 2 | The gender pay gap deminishes (reverses?) with decreasing attractiveness [OC]Lots of these guys do not exactly look like George Clooney. https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/4/#version:static The reason is likely that IQ and attractiveness correlate weakly and the system is not 100% lookist (but still probably more than it should be and it seems to affect men a lot more than women). | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/10/18 02:59 PM |
| 1 | The gender pay gap deminishes (reverses?) with decreasing attractiveness [OC]I wouldn't give very much credence to that region of the graph because there are likely just 5-10 data points or so in that region. There appear to be diminishing returns of attractiveness above 8.5/11 (7.75/10) though. | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/10/18 01:36 PM |
| 1 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesQuite honestly I just copied the other link from somewhere with a pretty wrong description and only skimmed it briefly. You are right, and I was wrong and apologize. | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/09/18 08:49 PM |
| 1 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesYes, this requires some statistical analysis based on the height distributions. The norm certainly exists in Western civilizations, i.e. the frequency of pairs with some amount that the man is taller (5-15cm) is higher than what random mating would suggest, and lower otherwise (male-taller norm and male-not-too-tall norm). https://i.imgur.com/bxSoVjg.png https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/148191266.pdf (p. 172) I do not know whether they have tested this in all these cited studies and I'm too lazy/… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/09/18 07:35 PM |
| 2 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesOk, it seems it is it is not universally culturally implemented (but lots of cultures do some things sub-optimally), but still predominant: male-taller norm in non-Western populations (Mexico: Malina et al., 1983; Bolivia: Godoy et al., 2008; Pakistan: Ahmad, Gilbert & Naqui, 1985; Cameroon: Pieper, 1981; Becker et al., 2012) no evidence of male-taller norm (Korea: Hur, 2003; Gambia: Sear, Allal & Mace, 2004; Hadza: Sear & Marlowe, 2009) https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/2016_Stulp&Barrett_BR_Height… | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/09/18 06:32 PM |
| 1 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesWhy not? It gives evidence, not proof. | /r/BlackPillScience | 29/09/18 05:27 PM |
| 9 | The Bachelorette: Analysis of female star height and male winner height. The Average female star height is 64.54 inches (5'4.54") and the average male winner height is 73.10 inches (6'1.10). The average height difference between final couples is 9.20 inchesGillis and Avis (1980) found that in only 1 out of 720 US/UK couples, the female was taller: http://doi.org/10.1177/014616728063010 There are mixed findings in Indonesian tribes isolated from western culture though: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3474915/ | /r/BlackPillScience | 27/09/18 06:25 PM |
| 4 | Sex Differences in the Attractiveness Halo Effect in the Online Dating EnvironmentIt seems they have used such faces as attractive ones: http://www.beautycheck.de/cmsms/uploads/images/bilder/prototypen/m_sexy_gr.jpg The eye spacing and canthal tilt are near optimal, but rather wide eyes, soft nose and small chin, long philtrum, non-pronounced dorsum of nose, non-compact mid-face, sparse beard, clearly exposed upper eye-lid, only medium mandible, facial width-to-height ratio is not large, a bit too much nostril-show, palate looks wide, but mouth is relatively small, hairline i… | /r/BlackPillScience | 09/09/18 10:19 PM |
| 5 | Sex Differences in the Attractiveness Halo Effect in the Online Dating EnvironmentLink to PDF: https://journal-bmp.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/JBMP-1-2010-Halo-Bak.pdf Women's willingness to get to know the profile owner with unattractive pics is not much lower than the men's though (14.29% vs 15.00%). There is a halo effect for both sexes (20.69% vs 37.93% willingness to contact attractive ones). Women are 20.69/14.29 ≈ 1.45 times more likely to contact a profile with attractive pic vs unattractive pic, men 37.93/15.00 ≈ 2.53 times more likely. It is strange that women sho… | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/09/18 06:12 PM |
| 6 | At what age do men peak in attractiveness? One study says at age 35, another quotes late 20s, and another says mid 20s. Okcupid is famous for stating that women peak at age 20, 21, and 23. Men reach our peak muscle strength at age 25. Is that also when we are at our peak in attractiveness?Good point, but not sure how much of that idea is cope, especially in welfare states. | /r/BlackPillScience | 25/08/18 10:40 PM |
| 3 | Even female mice copy mate choicesThis submission was mostly (like 70%) meant as a joke. Animal models are very useful for micro-biology like metabolism and nervous system etc., less useful for behavior. One could take this as weak evidence that increased reproductive cost leads to choosiness and outsourcing of selection effort to a dominance hierarchy. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/08/18 11:19 AM |
| 28 | A study alleges that 1 in 5 men are pedophiles. What do you make of this, guys?No, it suggests 1 in 5 are hebephile (attraction to above 13 year olds). 1 in 30 are pedophile (below 13 year olds). What do I make of this? The age of puberty onset has receded from 16.5 to 12.5 in the past 200 years, but it is unknown why (perhaps chemicals, better nutrition). Children develop the features that men are sexually interested in earlier. | /r/BlackPillScience | 13/08/18 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Meta-analysis confirms mate choice copying: Men gain 6.01% attractiveness when seen in the presence of a female, women lose 2.18% in presence of a male (both gain attractiveness as the attractiveness of the partner is increased)http://doi.org/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y | /r/BlackPillScience | 12/08/18 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Conclusive Proof of AWALT and the REAL Female Sexual Strategy...Start settling for worse and worse options (to not have to compete as hard) until it is impossible to satisfy women's desires due to how badly they have been spoiled. I think that's precisely what's at the core of the destruction of monogamy, though for a slightly different reason: It's a feedback loop that was identified in this Tinder study: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601909/how-tinder-feedback-loop-forces-men-and-women-into-extreme-strategies/ Essentially, at first you have lowered pr… | /r/MGTOW | 03/08/18 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Conclusive Proof of AWALT and the REAL Female Sexual Strategy...I think, unrestricted (read non-feminized) male dominance hierarchies actually do select for competent providers. In the natural setting, when women do not have much of a choice, but they are simply secured by the male with the highest social status and power out of her admirers, it is not the irresponsible thug who wins because he'd be outsmarted, rendered unable to secure high status and lots of resources. It is only in times of abundance, contraceptives and defective/absent dominance hierarch… | /r/BlackPillScience | 02/08/18 10:58 PM |
| 8 | At what age do men peak in attractiveness? One study says at age 35, another quotes late 20s, and another says mid 20s. Okcupid is famous for stating that women peak at age 20, 21, and 23. Men reach our peak muscle strength at age 25. Is that also when we are at our peak in attractiveness?I think this OKCupid article is the best data we currently have: https://theblog.okcupid.com/the-case-for-an-older-woman-99d8cabacdf5 It looks like the peak for women is ~20-26, and for men it's ~24-31, so everything is shifted by about 5 years. | /r/BlackPillScience | 31/07/18 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Is there empirical evidence that proves that romantic relationships are culturally and/or biologically needed for a person's insanity to be intact?I could imagine that there are TRP resources that also have substantial scientific backing. Could not find one yet though. | /r/BlackPillScience | 23/07/18 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Is there empirical evidence that proves that romantic relationships are culturally and/or biologically needed for a person's insanity to be intact?An obvious alternative explanation to all of these (as far as I can tell) is that celibates might have a higher propensity to depressive symptoms which might be the cause of their celibacy in the first place. | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/07/18 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Is there empirical evidence that proves that romantic relationships are culturally and/or biologically needed for a person's insanity to be intact?Is there a wiki, or some such, collecting such studies? | /r/BlackPillScience | 18/07/18 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Access to female mates may be predominantly determined by intimidating, competing with and winning against male rivals, rather than by being perceived as attractive and chosen by femalesI think it's still in line with the following hypothesis: Feminism largely eliminated male-male competition and economic dependence, so it largely eliminated domination and resource provision as sexual selection criteria when females evaluate males. The remaining criterion is looks as women are interested in personality just as little as men. The blackpill hypothesis as stated by /u/SubsaharanAmerican in the sidebar seems to be wrong in as far as the locus of control over being exposed to lookis… | /r/BlackPillScience | 15/07/18 11:24 AM |
| 4 | Benevolent Sexism Attractive To Women, Study ShowsI'd like to see scientific evidence stating men feel a biological need to protect women. Studies should show the same results over all races, creeds, nationalities, countries, incomes... It is well documented that men seek out women rather than the other way around and I think that's essentially the expression of this drive. It's also encoded in sex drive (d=~.8), combined with superior ability of men to extract resources from the environment, higher dependence in women (plus preference for bein… | /r/BlackPillScience | 04/07/18 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Benevolent Sexism Attractive To Women, Study Showspersonally believe men's preferential treatment of women makes them weaker, lazy, less desperate to achieve success, thus less successful Not doing so appears to cause PMS though. feminism == equality + pedestal =/= equality I guess we can shorten that to feminism ≠ equality. Women will always be on the pedestal because men are hardwired to care for women and women are not hardwired for reciprocity. Instead, they are hardwired to exploit and to be unwilling to settle with a partner of lower rank… | /r/BlackPillScience | 03/07/18 12:44 AM |
| 1 | The ultimate blackpill on female orgasmRight, but it might be a difference between, say, 40% achieving it vs only 20%? | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/06/18 07:05 PM |
| 1 | The ultimate blackpill on female orgasmNot sure about that. I think lots of training in humor and confidence, plus some social status e.g. in boy's clubs can make a 8/10 out of a 5/10. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/06/18 05:51 PM |
| 1 | The ultimate blackpill on female orgasmDo you think it's unlikely? Why? In another study I saw (source on request) the found humor to play a role in orgasm quality. I think humor is somewhat correlated with confidence and dominance (also intelligence, of course), as well as with exposure to rough and tumble play (you need to figure out the boundaries of acceptable behavior in play). | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/06/18 05:15 PM |
| 1 | The ultimate blackpill on female orgasmI think relative status and dominance also also a major criterion. I think it's quite plausible that women in the 1960s had better sex purely because their men were more confident. | /r/BlackPillScience | 08/06/18 03:26 PM |
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