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| 1 | The me too movement was a moral panic that fundamentally overreached and caused new issues for regular menThat’s not a metoo issue. I was 12 the first time I was sexually harassed. Most women had experiences like that long before they were 18. Then as adults in the workforce it gets murkier, if your boss puts his hand on the small of your back what can you say about that without risking your job? This is a side effect of a high enough population, not something inherent about men. Every woman has a story like this. One person can victimize thousands of people if they are determined enough. For every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friendsYeah because men still subconsciously think of women as property Not property but belonging to each other regardless. Unless you want to start saying people in a relationship think of each other as their property for saying "my girlfriend, my boyfriend, my wife, my husband ... etc." and he doesn't want to divulge the details of "his" woman to a potential thief (other men). You say this as if it is a bad thing. He doesn't care about women he doesn't want. At least not in the romantic way. Again, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problemsActually studies show single women on average are happier than married women No they don't. The articles saying this lead back to Paul Dolan's misreading of the American Time Use Survey which had married women as the happiest demographic of women. the reverse is true though gender wise This is true in part because divorced men are included in the pool of single men. Divorced men are the most unhappiest demographic of men and are most at risk for suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friendsThis is completely normal amongst gay men, lesbians, and straight women. Why straight men are so hung up over it is its own mystery. Usually the more a man romantically cares about a woman, the less of that woman's sexuality he wants shared with others. You'll get the dirty details from a man when he doesn't care about a woman that way (i.e. hookups, one night stands, and FWBs). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 10:17 PM |
| – | Do you at least recognize being told you're dangerous just because you're a man is wrong?It's literally a well known fact. What specifically are you claiming is a well known fact? Do an ounce of research on the topic. I have. Hell, I reported mine and you know where it went, fucking nowhere. Do you think your assailant only ever assaulted you? If anything, I added to the false accusation statistics, which I now firmly believe are inflated because of shit cops. I just got told over and over I was a liar, and why am I lying? You would have only added to the unknown stats. Them calling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:58 PM |
| – | Do you at least recognize being told you're dangerous just because you're a man is wrong?None of what you said negates anything I said. That means there are MILLIONS of rapists just casually walking around. You can not justify that conclusion with self reported data and an unknown number of assailants. You also have to remember, the vast majority of rapes aren't reported or talked about. How do you know this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 09:40 PM |
| – | Do you at least recognize being told you're dangerous just because you're a man is wrong?If it's such a small percentage of men, how have 1 in 6 women American women been victims of attempted or completed rape? Seems like a lot to me. That number is self reported and 1 person can rape many people. It's not as if all instances are committed by unique individuals. It is already known most violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders. Old stat, but still noteworthy: As of 1998, an estimated 17.7 million American women had been victims of attempted or completed rape (2.78 million me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?We are done. You’re arguing in bad faith. I do not think that means what you think it means. The cases that are brought, show what the rate of false reporting is. And I can’t find any that show 10% the highest I found was 8% nevertheless… The estimates tend to be 2-8%. Since you mention 10% I think you misunderstood the "90-96% of rape accusations are unknown" part of one of my previous comments. You have 3 possibilities. Accusation is proven true, accusation is proven false, and accusation vera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:24 AM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?How would you get that data? Do you hook a woman up to a lie detector when she calls a rape crisis line? You look at instances that have been investigated. I've mentioned this several times but the FBI crime statistics has the number of crimes reported and how they were resolved. That is data. Because they’re not going to go to the police. And the reason they don’t go to the police is because only 3% of rapists are a day in jail and SHE And every move she made will be on trial right along with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:36 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?So it wouldn’t matter how much data I gave you you dispute the data. Kind of like talking to an anti-VAX with a Trumper or flat earther. Except it's the exact opposite. You did not give good data with regards to our discussion. If we are talking about accusations and whether they are proven true or false then we are talking about accusations brought to the justice system. That data is in the FBI crime stats I mentioned. The RAINN data is collected via self reported survey. Since there is no inve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 03:41 AM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?I didn’t say that it never happens I said there were mistaken cross Identifications before DNA. That’s how the innocence project gets them out; DNA. There are also mistaken identifications today. “, RAINN Analysis Shows Only three out of every 100 rapists will ever spend even a single day in prison, according to a new analysis by RA” If you follow the thread of the data you posted you reach https://rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem. At the bottom of this page it says the following: Sexual viole… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 11:54 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?No I said if they were CONVICTED they were almost guaranteed to be guilty. I did not say accused. You’re mistaken. Your comment I replied to first said "5% of rape accusations are false. The rest…you just get no justice." That's clearly talking about accusations, not convictions. What it takes to get a rape conviction is insane. It's difficult, not insane. This is a good thing. Beyond a reasonable doubt is to ensure the wrong person is not put in prison. Most rapists never serve a day in jail. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 10:47 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?I didn’t say it doesn’t happen I said it’s rare. You also implied if a person was accused they were almost guaranteed guilty because false accusations are rare. That's probably because you forget proven true accusations are rare too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?Why would a woman Who hasn’t been raped call rape crisis hotline or go to a hospital to be seen I’m so confused? It doesn't matter. It can and has been proven to be something that happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?Unknown to who the woman? To the justice system. Are you crazy? If only 5% or false the 95% are real what planet do you live on where you don’t understand math? When people discuss false accusations, what they tend to be referencing are unfounded accusations. This is an accusation in which person A accuses 1 or more people of committing a crime while knowing those individuals did not commit the crime. For rape accusations, this would be person A accusing person B of rape knowing that person B di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:28 PM |
| 1 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?So maybe all the women who are pregnant from rape aren’t really pregnant maybe it never even happened… please give me a break. What does this have to do with my comment? They’re not even reporting to the police so why would they be making it up? They are calling rape crisis lines, or showing up in the ER afraid of stds and RELUCTANTLY do the kit when ASSURED that is their choice whether they do anything with it…but if they don’t have it, the evidence is gone. Because they are every bit is terrif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 08:04 PM |
| 2 | If a man was wrongfully castrated, what would you support for him ?5% of rape accusations are false. The rest…you just get no justice. 5% of rape accusations being false does not mean 95% of rape accusations are true. Don't forget the 3rd option of unknown which what the vast majority of rape accusations are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 07:16 PM |
| 0 | What are some of your 'favorite' societal contradictions?The rule is the body count. True. More specifically, "High body count is unattractive for a relationship to me". The expectation is the number of people high or low. To be the same rule applied faily it would be everyone low or everyone high. Not true. The expectation is that you would see similar judgments for a dating partner for a man or woman with regards to body count. To be the same rule applied fairly it would be thinking a high body count for a woman disqualifies her to be your partner a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/24 02:50 AM |
| 3 | 30+ year old women can be just as attractive as a 21 year oldI had a body count of three when I was 27 LOL age is not directly correlated with body count especially when you're comparing Millennial women and gen Z women. Body count is directly correlated with age. Unless you believe a person's body count can reduce with age. My mom had me at 32 with no problems, And? That does not mean it was not more risky (regarding physical health) than having you at a younger age. women are not infertile at 30 this rhetoric has been debunked over and over again and yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 05:52 AM |
| 8 | The entire pill debate has been obscured and distracted by a bizarre fixation on unattractive men’s struggle. While this sucks, it actually makes logical sense unlike the main problem, which is average and above average men struggling to the degree they are.Horseshit. Jingoism was the flavor of the day in WWI and WWII and men and women obediently and enthusiastically queued up to support the war effort. Propaganda continues to influence young men to join the military and it's pervasive and relentless. During the time of WWI and WWII young men did not have access to true-to-life depictions of war. Propaganda was all they were fed which is what made them happy to fight in wars. Once you have films like "Black Hawk Down" and "Saving Private Ryan" get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 04:58 PM |
| -2 | Its hypocritical of men to criticize promiscious women, when those men want to engage in casual sex.Well yeah, because height isn’t a choice whereas promiscuity is. The point of hypocrisy—which the people disagreeing with OP are missing entirely—is when one shames choices in others that they actively do themselves. Your definition of hypocrisy is off. It does not matter if it is a choice nor does it have to be shamed. Hypocrisy is a person having X, thinking people having X are Y, but not believing they themselves are Y even though they have X. That’s why it’s fair to call out non-fit people f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Dating as a whole is much easier for women.Very very few people report false reports. Even less reports are proven to be true. The likelihood of the person accused being guilty is extremely high even though they will most likely be acquitted or not convicted because of lack of evidence. No it isn't. The likelihood of an unfounded accusation is ~2-8%. That does not mean the other ~92-98% are true accusations. The proven true reports are convictions. Less than 2% of accusations result in convictions. What this means is 90-96% of accusation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalit was a joke...dont overanalyze it I'll overanalyze whatever I want. You can't stop me batman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalnonono men with college degrees marry 21 year old waitresses Interestingly enough a lot of college students work similar jobs while in college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships?I’m probably not going to convince you on this, though. Likely true. Looks like this is a fundamental difference in how we view unique personhood. I view it more like each instance is a clone. They are essentially the same woman, though. That’s a lot different than someone having the same name. The instances are not likely to share memories or experiences. It would likely be as if an organization is producing clones of a particular person. The clones are all separate entities. They shared the ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:21 PM |
| 1 | AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships?Not if the guys who I know are all talking about the sex that they had with Tifa and Aerith when I end up talking to them. They aren't the same one though. They would all be different copies. Unless you feel the same when someone mentions their experience with a person sharing the same name as the person you are dating. Would you feel the same if you were dating a twin? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 03:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalMaybe half the neighbors They usually are not even concerned about the neighbors. They are putting a barrier in the way of the less than 1% of people that are looking to cause problems. There is almost always no issue, but just in case. If you are concerned about half of your neighbors harming you, you need to move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 01:29 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalSo… the boys they like and who like them? Fiancés? Future husbands? Just the men who are in public when their daughters are out and about. And only the boys their daughters go to school with. And all the men their daughters work with. And all the men who might be driving around when she’s going for a run. And all the men who might be on the road when she’s driving. So… pretty much every man except themselves. No. Do you believe people that lock their doors think their neighbors want to harm them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 11:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalWhy would she need college when she could spend her early 20s pregnant and as a SAHW? College is where she is most likely to find a guy with better life prospects and lock him down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 10:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalYeah this is universal. Men don’t want to expose their daughters to men because “men know how men are”. It's not a "men in general" thing. It's a "it only takes one" thing. Must be difficult to live with that level of disgust and mistrust for one’s own gender. Men don't tend to have disgust and mistrust for men as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 10:40 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalI think we should remember he’s sought out a relationship where his voice always matters more than hers which I think suggests he’s looking for power and control. I'd say that is a flawed assumption. Imagine a two party structure where one side is restricted from ever having more than 49% of the votes, their votes don’t matter, just like her voice doesn’t matter. That comparison doesn't work as having only 49% of the vote means you can affect nothing but the woman's voice can sway the man's deci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 10:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalHer voice only matters as much as he decides it does, ergo her voice has no inherent value aside from what he ascribes to it. If he ascribes value to her voice, her voice matters. Whereas his voice always has value as the final say over every decision they might ever make. Sure. Just as the CEO has the final say in the decisions of a company. Does that mean the advice and words of the people that report to the CEO don't matter? A consulting firm hired by the CEO will give them advice. The CEO do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:56 PM |
| 0 | CMV: The fact that Red Pillers still want their daughters to be educated girlbosses is hypocriticalHer advice and voice don’t matter if he has the final say. If there is ever a situation where he would make a different decision after hearing what she has to say, her advice and voice does matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:43 PM |
| 1 | AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships?especially if I know that I’m “sharing” Tifa and Aerith with millions of other men. You are not sharing them. You each get your own unique one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships?It's the future of relationships for low value men. Lol. You make it sound like non low value men would not want to chill with Tifa or Aerith on discord. This is assuming there are no physical representations yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Part of giving good advice is recognizing the people asking for advice may not know how to ask for what want or may not be sure what they want. If a friend asks how to return their recently bought gpu and you simply give them instructions without further clarification, you have technically answered their question but you likely did not provide good advice without further clarifying questions or answering the unanswered but obvious questions. In this case providing good advice would be to ask why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 05:36 PM |
| 1 | How much resistance to the Red Pill is just resistance to the politics and presentation of the Red Pill i.e. how would you feel if concepts like looksmaxxing, preselection, The Wall, etc. came from a neutral or left-wing perspective?I’ll try and respond to each point made, thanks for writing such a detailed response without the underlying anger we usually face here. Likewise. I prefer to do without the hostility. This place genuinely turns people of all genders into cynics and I’ve come to expect misogyny which I understand wasn’t your intention. All good. I think most women would be uncomfortable by being likened to a commodity to be traded. Whether its the fisherman thing or the blacksmith example. It’s off putting. I've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning?these guys don’t even consider women human How do you think individual humans tend to treat most people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 11:59 PM |
| 3 | AI for companionship, escorts for sex. Is this the future of relationships?A robot regurgitating samples of text will never replace the need for intimacy. If this were true online romance scams would be impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 09:24 PM |
| 1 | How much resistance to the Red Pill is just resistance to the politics and presentation of the Red Pill i.e. how would you feel if concepts like looksmaxxing, preselection, The Wall, etc. came from a neutral or left-wing perspective?I understand analogies perfectly fine, it’s just that the analogy in this particular instance betrays a view that’s not very desirable to most people. Such as? To gain a nuanced view on people, which is what you want, you need to ask multiple people. I understand that for guys who don’t consider women people they wouldn’t want to ask women, but then at least ask multiple men. The idea of "hey you should probably ask x over y means that given limited time and opportunity asking x is better to ask… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | How much resistance to the Red Pill is just resistance to the politics and presentation of the Red Pill i.e. how would you feel if concepts like looksmaxxing, preselection, The Wall, etc. came from a neutral or left-wing perspective?I think they were talking about dating women, not crafting metal tools. I understand the difference may be confusing to certain demographics, but this is about forging bonds between people, not sheets of metal. You would think you could not only understand what the point of an analogy is, but you would probably also recognize acquiring clients is "forging bonds between people" as much as successfully dating is. But since analogies and abstract comparison seems a bit too complex here, how about t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 02:06 AM |
| 5 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesSo she better get it right from the get-go is what you're saying. She doesn't have to do anything. She just doesn't get to force a man to be with her regardless of her behavior. If she chose wrong in the past, she can try to take it slow with every new man at the cost of reducing her potential partner pool or compromise and risk getting partners that only care about sex. Since she can't turn back time those are her only options outside of successful deception or exiting the dating game altogethe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 01:59 AM |
| 0 | How much resistance to the Red Pill is just resistance to the politics and presentation of the Red Pill i.e. how would you feel if concepts like looksmaxxing, preselection, The Wall, etc. came from a neutral or left-wing perspective?1) The whole "Fish/Fisherman" thing. Women have a wealth of good dating advice to offer, but you have to ask the right questions in the right way. I plan on making a post on this later. If your goal is to become a master blacksmith, would you be better off asking a master blacksmith or their clients? The master blacksmith's clients may have good information on what they want or look for but they will often have no idea of what the master blacksmith does to make it happen. They clients might even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 12:29 AM |
| 28 | Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating strugglesSo she's not allowed to pick wrong a couple of times and find out what she likes, she better get it right from the get-go is what you're saying. She is allowed to pick wrong a few times. She is not allowed to pick wrong a few times and avoid the reasonable assumption from future prospects that she is not interested when she doesn't, in their eyes, treat them as well as she treated the wrong choices. This all happens because men cannot know you are truly interested when you treat them, in the eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 08:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenIt seems like you’re trying very hard to justify something that isn’t really justifiable. ...I have not tried to justify anything. Where did you get that idea? Similar to your $50 or less rule, I would say that the best way for a woman to avoid being used for sex is to not have sex early in the dating process or before commitment, or even marriage. That is completely fine. That goes along with not putting yourself in a position to be taken advantage of. If you would have a serious issue with bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Should women be nice to beta males?You cannot fake dignity. Yes you can as dignity is based on a feeling. However, you cannot fake sex as it is an objective act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenThere’s an absolute shitload of mental gymnastics and hypotheticals going on here, so I’m going to cut to the chase. How so? Imagine you’re going on a date with a woman who dislikes and has contempt for men in general, or maybe you in particular. She, however, does want your money. She is nice and friendly on that date because she wants something. Seems all good for the moment, but do you see what could possibly go wrong, especially if you keep seeing this woman so she can extract more resources… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Should women be nice to beta males?You can't simulate dignity the same way you can simulate sex. Lol yeah you can. What do you think positive affirmations are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 03:46 AM |
| 1 | If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society?Except this is not the case. When you shoot someone in a video game the emotional and hormonal response is far different than when you shoot someone in real life, and is closer to the what you feel when you punch a bag. Shooting a gun at the range is not in a video game. I meant going to the shooting range and shooting a gun in real life. The point about the punching bag is that punching punching bags do not make people more violent. It has actually been proven to due the opposite as it acts as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 02:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenBad comparison since there is obviously a limit on the number of people anyone, male or female, can maintain contact with in a given time frame. No one can realistically give time priority to every stranger they encounter. It's not a bad comparison because that is the point. EVERYONE views a person as not worth their time anytime they are not giving them their time. This is not a bad thing. This is required otherwise you have no self-agency. Your comment tried to make viewing a person as “not wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 02:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenClaiming we need to have Sky Daddy to behave right is hardly the same as questioning if someone may treat someone they don’t like or respect poorly. It is the same. You are claiming a lack of disincentive to do an action makes a person more likely to take said action. That is the same argument behind claiming god's threat of hell is necessary to prevent heinous crimes. It is also the same argument behind the idea that a lack of respect will lead to poor/unethical treatment. I mean come on, we’ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 02:16 PM |
| 0 | Should women be nice to beta males?The thing is, you can still get off without actually having sex, you can still have fulfilling relationships with other humans without sex. You can enjoy and have a fulfilling life without being treated with dignity too. There is literally no reason to be this pathetically needy. Something is wrong. Then something must also be wrong in the situation of a person saying they need to beat treated like a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 02:00 PM |
| 2 | If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society?Violent video games are not the way to go. When you shoot in a game you don’t feel like you are really shooting someone, when you have sex virtually you still feel like you are having sex. And? Punch a punching bag feels like you are punching something. Shooting a gun at the range feels like you are shooting something. Neither of those make you more likely to punch or shoot someone. Do you think a person having sex with their spouse makes them more likely to have sex with people other than their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 01:58 PM |
| 3 | If and when technology reaches a point where artificial wombs and photorealistic VR sex becomes the norm; what do you think will happen in terms of the male/female dynamic in society?There is a valid argument IMO that if it is remotely possible you have created sentient life that it would be highly unethical to use that creature as a sex slave. If the sentient life was programmed to enjoy having sex and being committed to one person it is no different than a human sharing the same desire with regard to ethics. It would also give men the idea that since these robots with AI are "indistinguishable" from real women, that they would likely treat real women the way they treat the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 06:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenNope. I was very clear. Enthusiastic participation vs non. How does the statement Objectification and using humans as a means to an end is bad imply an exception for enthusiastic participation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:59 AM |
| 0 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenIs that person enthusiastically participating in that interaction or not? Considering the statement was "Objectification and using humans as a means to an end is bad" with no further clarification, the person's enthusiasm is irrelevant. As you said, "objectification and using humans as a means to an end is bad." So even if the person being objectified or used as a means to an end was "enthusiastically participating" it is still wrong...according to your statement. Would you like to amend your st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:39 AM |
| -1 | Should women be nice to beta males?It means their standards are subterranean. If your standards are subterranean for something it is probably because you value it highly. Quick example, I could be wrong but I would guess that you breathe when you take a dump or use public bathrooms. If you breathe in those environments you are breathing air with fecal particles in it. I'm guessing you disregard that and breathe anyway because you value being alive and breathing is required for that. That means your standards for air are subterran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 05:22 AM |
| -1 | Should women be nice to beta males?Actually I'd say he values it the least. If you want sex, just sex, with anyone who will have you, how is that valuable? That's desperation. Desperation by definition means you value it higher than things for which you are not desperate. For instance, a human dying of thirst is desperate for water. They may even be willing to drink water from a toilet bowl. Does that mean they do not value water? Or does it mean they value water enough that no surrounding context could make it undesirable. A hum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 04:40 AM |
| 0 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenYou guys genuinely don’t value women as humans and it shows. You literally only see us as a sex object. Do people not realize that most people don't value the vast majority of humans above mild platitudes? You act as though being viewed positively for the potential of by a man sex is treating you as sub-human when more than 99.99% of humans are treated indifferently by the same man. Treating you as if you even exist is better treatment than the vast majority of people receive from any given huma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 03:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenObjectification and using humans as a means to an end is bad. That's a nice platitude but if you think about it you cannot have boundaries if this is the case. "Using humans as a means to an end" is getting something out of interacting with a person. If that is bad then doing anything involving another person that is non-altruistic is bad. That also means expecting basic decency from a person is bad because you are trying to get something out of that person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenWomen can get resentful toward men, but generally see them as equals and don’t view them as “not worth my time unless they’re directly giving me something.” This is incorrect. I do not believe most women would be willing to spend time having a conversation with every man that attempted to talk to her. If she is not willing to spend her time for no benefit on any man but would if compensated enough then she does view them as "not worth my time unless they're directly giving me something." There i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 03:46 AM |
| 0 | CMV A lot of the "toxicity" and "misogyny" are just men no longer making up lies to please womenIf you don’t like or respect someone nothing is stopping you from lying to and manipulating them, or even crossing certain boundaries of consent in some cases. This is the same argument some religious people make when saying "without god nothing is stopping you from raping and killing people." It's stupid when they say it the same way it is stupid when you say it here. An easy reason people won't treat someone they don't respect or like poorly is because it benefits them. For instance, I doubt a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Where have all the good men gone?but I don’t understand why men would stop achieving for themselves because they’re lonely. It’s just incredibly strange to me that men desire achievement only for sex. The men are achieving, just in areas you and many others don't care for. Hell, one of the big draws of From Software games is the experience a overcoming difficult challenge after difficult challenge. As for why they may not be achieving in careers? They don't need or desire to. Unless you want to live a life of luxury you don't n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Where have all the good men gone?And you didn’t address why I should blindly move to those rural agricultural areas without knowing anyone just with the hope that I find a husband They are not rural agricultural areas. They are suburban. Your money goes very far in these areas. If you manage to do what I'm doing and work remotely from one of these areas for a salary normally paid in big cities, your money goes extremely far in these areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.I see it enough in these manosphere podcasts and their comments that it is worthy of note, or at least I think so. The traits required to become a high earner tend to be more associated with masculinity. If a woman is a high earner it could be assumed she likely has those qualities. Whether those qualities are undesirable for a relationship is up to the individual. A lot of the content you are referencing probably focuses on the ballbusting hardass but I've run into very few of that type of woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 09:37 PM |
| 1 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.Although there's a point to that, I don't think that's really the same thing as dismissing women who have post graduate degrees and better earning potential as "overly masculine". It's not the same thing and I don't think it happens much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 08:22 PM |
| 6 | PPD Men desire submissive partners because they can use their relationship as an ego stroke.I never really understood why guys say they don't care about women's academic or career accomplishments. It feels like a damning self report to declare that you're not at all concerned with somebody's level of education, career goals or earning potential as long as they are good looking It's probably because many men care more about intelligence more than certifications of intelligence. I prefer to date intelligent women. I also am aware that people can be intelligent with or without a degree. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/23 05:05 PM |
| 1 | For men, the social value of sex is always higher than the value than being just friends, but it's not that men don't want to be friendsThis is a false dichotomy. There was no other choice. She dumped a "wonderful" man for being single. It's totally her right but at least get the situation correct. Are you sure you're in the right thread? This is about a guy wanting a fwb over a friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 10:14 PM |
| 1 | For men, the social value of sex is always higher than the value than being just friends, but it's not that men don't want to be friendsAll you’re really proving is the misogynistic assumption that all men value from women is sex and if so they are in for a very lonely life with no real fulfilling relationships the opposite sex. No, they are proving that given the choice of A or A plus extra men will pick A plus extra. It's what rational people tend to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/22 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?Oh you’re a pseudo-intellectual, lmfaoooo. Okay anyways: The title doesn’t say that I’ve already fulfilled the burden of proof demonstrating why that definition is inherently predicated on what OP proposed, so if you have a contention then display it. It says Yeah I quite literally just refuted that, lol. Why are you repeating yourself? Do you have a learning disability or something? Are you not aware that saying "why is there anger among men" indicates the anger is coming from the men in questi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?hy·poc·ri·sy /həˈpäkrəsē/ Learn to pronounce noun the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. Saying ”why is there anger among men who are promiscuous but don’t want to date a woman who does the same” invokes a propositional contradiction. Do you have a contention against that? The title doesn't say that. It says: Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same? The anger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?It literally falls under the definition of hypocrisy, lmao. It doesn't. What is the definition of hypocrisy you are using? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:58 AM |
| 0 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?Its hypocritical for a fat person to say they'll only date skinny people, or for a smoaker to say they'll only date people who don't smoke. It quite literally is rules for thee but not for me. And though I can't stop you from doing that I can totally thing you're a shit person for it No, it isn't. It's hypocrital for a fat person say they'll only date skinny people because fat people are bad, but they themselves are not bad even though they are fat. Same idea goes for smoking. Using your version… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:55 AM |
| 0 | Why all the anger when a guy who is probably promiscuous doesn’t want to date a woman who is the same?I would say it’s not hypocritical. You'd be wrong, words have definitions and this is the definition of hypocritical. Rules for thee but not for me. What's funny is you and most of the other comments I've seen mentioning hypocrisy here are wrong. Hypocrisy has to do with how a person presents themselves. It has nothing to do with what they want or like. The following are the first few sentences from the Wikipedia page for "Hypocrisy". Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 12:51 AM |
| 0 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beThe evidence shows otherwise, however it’s much easier to blame it on that instead of admitting that you didn’t even make an attempt. With your reasoning in mind, would you say women are not sexually harassed or raped in higher numbers than reported to the police? After all, using your reasoning, the reason women would not report a sexual assault or rape would be because it didn't happen. The possibility some victimized women don't want to go through a situation with a high emotional and mental … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 04:09 AM |
| 4 | It is unbelievable how hostile the mainstream is to even the most innocent attempt by men to "learn" anything dating, courtship or romance-relatedInstead of trying to learn the game by playing it, they just want to read the strategy guide and then use the meta. Which is not to say the pills are the meta, they are just something they can tell themselves is the meta. This sounds wierd as an admonishment. Pretty much everything people learn today is via a strategy guide. Otherwise math student would not learn from a textbook. They would be told to just figure it out. Why do people train at boxing gyms? They should just figure it out on their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 06:45 AM |
| 0 | The One Standard That Fixes Modern Datingsounds like there's no reason to ever be around men because that's fuckin gross. It is only gross when presented poorly and misunderstood. When men say they only talk to women because of the potential for sex a lot is being left out of the statement. Unless you are the type of person that enjoys talking to new people for the sake of it, most people want to talk to people they find interesting, whose company they enjoy, or find attractive and want to bang. When dealing with new people you don't k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 02:03 AM |
| 1 | The One Standard That Fixes Modern DatingIt's time for men to have a century like women had, in which standards and expectations evolve to adapt to new conditions. This has already happened. Men's behavior did not remain static while women's behavior changed. Evolving standards and expectations are what led to men behaving the way that is being complained about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 12:35 AM |
| 2 | This fucking sucks man :(Since you like Onimusha, check out Nioh. | /r/MGTOW | 21/01/19 06:23 PM |
| 2 | What does MGTOW mean to you? be as succinct or as verbose as you wish.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g | /r/MGTOW | 20/12/18 04:43 AM |
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