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Maybe, but probably not. He was a very popular boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:28 PM
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He almost drank himself to death as a teen and went through GFs two at a time. He will absolutely never admit that it fucked him up, but it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:27 PM
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I don’t see where the survey asks how often you tip. However I looked this up and data shows similar rates but that men and women tip a little differently based on the Industry. This is probably like dating where a lot of women are not generous at all in the early stages but super generous once there is a relationship. One study that looked really interesting showed that in Denmark if a woman received a pay increase her chances of have children decreased a lot, while for men it increased. This c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:26 PM
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Look, you just hash out the divorce up front in the prenup. When everyone knows the deal, it makes everything so much smoother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:11 PM
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You could always become a public school teacher. My cousin was 14 when his teacher jumped him. She was… 28 I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:05 PM
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Use steroids for a while and see what it does. Still… look you just need to try harder and be open to all kinds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:25 PM
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The actual number for foreign wives is 25%. The chances your marriage will last 10 year has a wide variation based on the woman’s national origin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:48 PM
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At the end of the day the individual matters most, but as a general rule Western Culture women are toxic and should not be married. Good for dating and relationships, but no economic entanglements. Too many of them just hate men and you can’t fix them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:46 PM
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Well the divorce rate between American men and foreign wives is 25%, and with American wives it’s 50%. It’s just simple math. American women are taught through our education and media to hate men. They can’t turn that off when they get into a relationship… they are racists but for gender. How do you expect anyone to have a relationship when the other person is so hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:42 PM
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There is a whole lot of stuff going on here. I think it’s mostly an insult to trigger feminists who see this as low status work. The men who are serious about it… I suspect they are incompetent mommas boys who can’t take care of themselves. In this you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:39 PM
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I also dislike affirmative action, but it’s the legal mechanism we have to combat this kind of discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:48 PM
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I’ve read your comments in the past and I’ve always felt there is a wonder person behind the other side of the screen and it does make me happy to see you do well. So sincere best wishes from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:29 PM
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Maybe, but it’s a pattern that shows up in most spending data. Women are not as generous as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:24 PM
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Affirmative Action for men in every area where they are underrepresented and changes to the education system that create oppressive systems. That would be a big start.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:46 PM
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If you take money under false pretences then that is fraud and it should be punishable by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:44 PM
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The traits that make a man loyal also tend to make him unattractive. That’s just a fact. The most naturally loyal guy I ever knew his wife refused sex for 6 years. When he accidentally found a connection with a coworker and filed divorce… she claimed he was a cheater. No, he was just escaping her abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:42 PM
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You need to run a podcast or something. Everything you say is 100% true, but it’s impossible to get that message through to these hyper anxious dorks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:36 PM
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Guys, this is stupid. Who gives a shit what they think in these social circles? They collapse and reform constantly anyway. Social circle game is THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET DATES. There is no other truth here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:31 PM
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That isn’t the solution men are asking for. Most men want structural changes to the law and culture that address the systemic issues men face in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:46 PM
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You should by this logic be pushing for laws that prevent women from scamming men out of money using the dating process as leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:44 PM
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One time I helped this lady in the Philippines start a business. We were just friends. I sent her some money to start it. She paid me back even though I never asked 4 years later. No American woman has ever done anything like that, and I’m an extremely generous person. No friend, no lover, no date…. None of them, ever. I talk to service workers… women rarely tip in the US. I don’t think that women in general are greedy and self absorbed. I think our culture teaches them to be that way probably d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:38 PM
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Oh! You are engaged! Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:29 PM
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All people do that. I spent some time teaching young men how to date. Most of their issues are created by the education system and media. That’s legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:27 PM
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Should men also apply this reasoning to domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:25 PM
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No, what men are really wanting is structural change, but we don’t know how to argue for it. So they just focus on dating issues which are downwind of all the other bullshit. The thing is that with education and employment being rigged to empower women and to oppress men, this creates unequal dating situations. There needs to be something structural to rebalance this. Marriage also needs to end no fault and the standard 50/50 needs to end. Instead fault needs to be applied and adulterers need ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:22 PM
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Do you really care to know? If you do please explain to me why UK Feminists have for 25 years not only protected but actively helped sexual torture and trafficking gangs that target girls as young as 9? The victim list could be as high as 500,000, but 30,000 are confirmed. Why do feminists support this? Why do they gaslight the public and call victims liars… ect?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:13 PM
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You have no idea how the world works or why.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:25 AM
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The 2008 to 2019 Red Pill was a different thing. When PUA was the primary driving force. What changed everything was #MeToo. They used that to deplatform and destroy all of the men who were actually getting the message out. The only guy even close to that today is HoeMath and there is a reason he won’t show his face. The Gen Z men are just absolute gutless losers. As a group they are too effeminate to ever be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:14 PM
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If you toss out the black pill bullshit, then it becomes a hell of a lot easier. It’s the blue and black pill mentalities that make mediocre men mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:56 PM
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He has a point though. If I take the personality traits we find most common in women like agreeableness… then this is the behaviour I would expect from someone with those traits. Compound that with a perception of physical weakness comparatively and it’s just logical to be careful about how others perceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:51 PM
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You need to understand that every subset has a norm and if we are talking about women they generally follow the same rules as other subsets. You just need to figure out the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:42 AM
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What took me a long time to understand is how dishonest women are about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:40 AM
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Only a small subset of wealthy Muslims have multiple wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:29 AM
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This is incorrect. Feminism believes WOMEN should be equal. If your definition was true, which it is not, then any area where men are not equal to women like say college attendance rates would be the subject of intense advocacy. Instead we hear them either defending the inequality OR an immense silence. Gender egalitarians are the ones that believe people should be treated equally, feminist only care if women are treated equally because they are the KKK of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:45 PM
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That is gender egalitarianism not feminism. Feminism believes in women getting special rights and this made up patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:15 PM
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The question is more about whether technology has fundamentally changed the structure of human civilisation or not. If not, then this attitude is going to absolutely screw us in the long run. However, if it has… then we will generally be Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:13 PM
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You believe this because your type are all self serving. Most men work and strive so that they can give that money to a wife and children. The career is just a means to generate resources to share with someone you love. Women don’t seem to understand this and I can only think jts because they are so self absorbed that they work for themselves only. This is why I tell men to look at how she lives. Selfish spenders are not good for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:19 PM
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The society took his options away intentionally. He is disadvantaged at every level and is just sick of the uneven playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:12 PM
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Yes, but you missed the point. They can’t date BECAUSE they are oppressed not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:11 PM
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Most of women’s power is structural. The more men attempt no not play their game, the more they ramp up the pressure using that structural power. I don’t see how you can avoid that conclusion if you step back and really look at what’s going on. We have studies now that show women basically just spend money on themselves. Men spend money on women and children. So single women need to pay a higher tax rate that represents their withholding from society and their overuse of government resources. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:08 PM
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Blue Pillers are mostly male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:03 PM
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With BP men it really depends on the community they are in and the women they get attached to. Some have great women and live great lives, others just get wrecked over and over. Red Pill guys tend to know what’s up. The thing I keep seeing is people thinking black pillers are red.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:02 PM
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Of course, they want to date, the system is just stacked against them. Don’t understand why you think that we can oppress young men harder and harder every year and they will just suck it up and take it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:44 PM
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I think this is wrong. A man can control a 40 year old woman just as easily as a 20 year old… maybe easier actually. I think you really don’t understand the number of older women that have fucked up their life and are absolutely desperate. 20 year olds can boot you after a year and loot your entire life… they have way more power. Most men go for younger women because it makes them feel young and verile. Because men will see it as an achievement to outcompete younger men. A lot of men did very po…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:07 PM
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I don’t think it’s actually that cut and dry. I spent a lot of time trying to understand what creates attraction. Why is my tall handsome friend a degenerate chubby chaser, while his short bald ugly step brother won’t even talk to overweight women? I mean we treat these things like they everyone is just born that way… like finding overweight women hot is just some genetic thing like being gay… but now half of the men in Gen Z are gay and that can’t be genetic right? Once you start questioning th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:58 PM
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Do we need to point out that left wing people don’t care about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:55 PM
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I thought about this for a moment. It breaks down like this. If you are a conventionally attractive woman then it could be very possible he is simply missing the signs. A lot of guys have trouble believing anyone could be into them. If you aren’t conventionally attractive then the probability that he is just dense as a brick drops and the probability he just isn’t going to acknowledge it because he likes you as a person and doesn’t want to hurt your feelings climbs significantly. So when you run…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:21 AM
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They do not know without a few hours. First impressions are important, but people continually surprise and those who make shallow judgments and then act as if they are never wrong are fools.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:05 AM
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Look, this is primarily experience based and also things like confidence. When I was young I had a girl who was a very good friend. We spent a whole day hanging out and having fun. I was very attracted to her, but felt that the friendship was more important to me than taking a romantic shot. So at the end of the night she leans in close and tells me that her parents are out of town and that I should come up to her room and listen to this band she had been talking about. Now looking back I can se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:02 AM
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I dislike the idea of patriarchy because it distorts peoples understanding of reality and how large groups of people really organise themselves. We all live in a place where high levels of organisation and technology allow for most people to live free of concerns like starvation, pillage, and forced enslavement. If you live in a small tribe that farms, your #1 concern is going to be keeping what you make from being stolen by marauders, or your house and land being taken by a neighbour tribe whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:37 AM
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Feminists just want to be more equal than everyone else. I don’t see why that is a bad thing. What is most interesting to me is looking at the places where feminists truly dominate. When I look at what they do with power it removes any doubts that women are just as terrible as men when given authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:23 AM
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Education, work, family court. Those are the places that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:21 PM
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When the sex stops either I’m 100% onboard with it or she packs her stuff immediately and finds a new place to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:40 PM
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I promise when they say they want what the the Ex got… that isn’t in their minds. I’ve met men like your xH before and they are always disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:38 PM
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How are this many boys lost and struggling? How is that possible? If the point of the show is just to rehash the point that these “influencers” are a joke, then what did it accomplish? Nothing. If your son is taking advice from such a clownish man, then you already failed and nobody is bothering to talk about it. Fact is that this requires action and it requires action now. These boys are the future. If their lives are miserable they will in turn make our miserable. If nobody cares about them, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:30 PM
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It’s a desire to be treated like a woman. That is what I see all the time from the black pill folks. They are just insanely jealous of women. Never once has someone having empathy for me ever helped. Feelings aren’t actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:16 PM
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I honestly don’t think dating is the problem. The core problem is massive discrimination against men and the insane gaslighting about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:09 PM
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Yes, no marriage, no child support no government handouts. That fixes everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:48 PM
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The role gender played in a peasants life is not significant compared to the role class played. This is true in most of history. So it’s Oligarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:41 PM
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They are still traditions, just gender traditions. But traditions are always changing and always in competition with one another. So if you want to remove or change a gender tradition, you must have something to put in its place and you must also understand the role that tradition serves. So what is your plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:36 PM
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So it’s a type of tradition…. Which still means it’s a tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:26 PM
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You just can’t stop yourself can you. I have always found the people who have to loudly proclaim how smart they are always turn out to be not what they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:22 PM
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She married a bum who had way less money than her and she was legally able to keep his hands off of her money… in the 1800s. So explain to me again how women couldn’t have bank accounts or their own money. What we see is that upper class men AND women have access to these things. Once middle class men begin using things like banks, within about 10 years laws are passed to give middle class women free access, many of whom already had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:15 PM
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Are you sure a hole is required? I’d lower that bar down to just anything that can create friction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:10 PM
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Good looks aren’t enough. The best looking guy I ever knew in university did very poorly with women and got very few hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:07 PM
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It takes more than that. You need to approach the situation with the correct frame of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:59 PM
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Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:57 PM
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Yeah, mid guys really put out. You don’t even have to buy them dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:55 PM
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You mean the Oligarchy? I think if you asked peasants who oppressed them they would most likely point to the lords and ladies who lived lavishly off the taxes they paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:34 AM
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Women always participated in capitalism. Hetty Green made herself one of the wealthiest women in the world before 1st wave of feminism got much of anything done. They called her the Witch of Wallstreet, because her ability to find good investments seemed magical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:29 AM
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I’ve spoken with enough of you type of folks that it’s fairly predictable. Snide, condescending, and rarely original.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:23 AM
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If this is true then why are things different today?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:28 PM
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So it is now run by women a Yes it is sending money to women’s groups like United Women of East Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:11 PM
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So patriarchy is just another word for Tradition? Why do we need a new word for the same old thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 10:07 PM
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So basically when you say Patriarchy you mean tradition, but need a more Marxist word to sound erudite. At the core of all this is human competition, which is what I assume you want to somehow eliminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 07:02 PM
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Pro Tip, when these idiots say Patriarchy they mean capitalism. You can’t argue facts with people who are intentionally obfuscating what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:58 PM
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So… it’s a cabal of men who accidentally conspire to control the world for the benefit of men? How about you start off by proving there IS a patriarchy first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:51 PM
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100%. It’s like blaming Jews for everything. Only very stupid people believe this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:48 PM
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It’s a pain in the ass that can save your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:17 PM
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You know that Movember is now run by women and donates a lot of the money raised for men’s health to women’s organisations? This isn’t something that will be an easy fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:28 PM
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In some ways women act like an enemy faction though. I drove past a group of young American women protesting that young Iranian women might freedoms. That’s their mindset. A huge chunk of them want a communist dictatorship. They aren’t serious people, but they cause a lot of trouble and we can’t solve any problems with them standing in the way demanding insane bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:26 PM
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Prenups. You need to have the end negotiated in advance and heavily favouring the man for the first 20 years and then favouring the woman final 20-30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:06 PM
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The thing you need to understand about women is that the less information and the more mystery you give them, the more they fill in the blanks with whatever they want. Damn few of them can stop themselves. I say this because you seem to feel one false move and they NEXT you. That doesn’t happen if you build enough attraction up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:24 AM
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100% true and I’ve seen that work, in fact I’ve dated a lot of 30 somethings near the university that do this. There is just a lot of drama and it’s kind of awful. My buddies wife was a nasa scientist, published papers the whole thing. She had that kind of thing until late 20s. Now she has 3 kids going on 4. She is Canadian and my friend is from India. They have a yard, garden in the back. She only works 10 hours a week. Not everyone wants that, and that’s Ok. But I remember the girls only dorm …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:37 AM
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I hear people say all the time that they can live well without a partner, but I rarely find that it’s true. I think it’s an aspirational statement or something for wealthy successful people who are already set up in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:10 PM
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Strawman logical fallacy. Most physically abusive men are obviously abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:53 AM
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Thank you for the polite warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:49 AM
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You got scammed. That guy knew you were low experience and tried to use shame tactics to get you to take the pill and let him have sex without a condom. I hope you didn’t spend much time with an asshat like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:48 AM
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I gave all this money to a Nigerian Prince and when he didn’t give me the money back as he had promised, nobody felt sympathy. They just laughed. What’s wrong with people!! Don’t they understand!! He really acted like a prince!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:18 PM
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If you were a soul waiting to go into a body, choosing the “Woman in a western country” button would be an easy choice. Look the thing with white boys right now is that Woke people who own education teach them from age 5 on that they are evil and it can’t be fixed. I know a guy who used to be ANTIFA and these guys are driven by socially imposed self hatred and shame. They do this stuff to prove they are “one of the good ones”, but there is no salvation allowed. It’s a status game they can’t win,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:12 PM
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Only stupid women think this. Your chances of being born rich and handsome are low, your chances of being a grunt labor slave is damn high. Yes some men are at the top, but the very bottom is all men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:03 PM
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AWALT is a term used by black pill idiots. The biggest problem that we had in the Red Pill was that we never bothered to turn and look in the mirror at our own natures. Once you realise that if we were in the same social position as women we would act a lot like them then it changes how you see issues. The problem is how the elites have organised our society, not women themselves. Our laws are an enormous problem. Change from the inside just isn’t possible, so we await the coming collapse. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:59 PM
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How this works depends A LOT on how you define blue pill relationships. If you look at the general population, they are failing to form relationships at all. When they do the failure rate is around 50%. Look, if American marriages were a product that you buy off the shelf, nobody would buy a product that fails at such an insane rate or that refuses to honor its own standards and promises. The Blue Pill is a broken view of humanity that assumes women have prefect selfless hearts and try to do goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:47 PM
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What I think you will find is that when these things are discussed once you start talking very specific situations and scenarios we all agree. In highly generic language we all bring different assumptions into the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:17 PM
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Your points are very good for a certain audience of low experience men. Any guy who has been around for a while can see the games women play. A woman who has been with lots of men is just going to be different than a woman who hasn’t. You can feel the difference in every interaction. Nobody can go back to being a virgin, and I’ve never met a woman that could even pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:12 PM
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The answer to your question lies within how men relate to other men and how status works. Men use these techniques and communication styles to challenge hierarchy when those above seem incompetent. Stupid leadership will get lots of men killed and so there is always this balance between loyalty and challenge to authority. Women have essentially stepped into a lot of male roles and leadership positions in society. Too many of these women are wildly incompetent and authoritarian. So this behaviour…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:04 PM
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Yeah, I actually missed that the first time myself. To my mind the most important part is why people do this to each other. Why jump into a companionship relationship under the guise of being lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:59 PM
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Anytime you have one without the other, it will most likely be a bad experience for someone. Men tend to get used for companionship, but women can also suffer from this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:31 PM
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The stuff that is left up feels like a time capsule, I don’t think any of it is actually Roissy anymore, but it does cover his process and ideas. It was Roissy I believe who started the work on escalation techniques, which along with some racist rants got him deplatformed and almost doxxed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:21 PM
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Haha… I have a maid service that does the deep cleans and twice a week maintenance work. The only rule I have is to clean after yourself within a reasonable time frame and I’m only home 4 days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:38 PM
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The ball needs to be mutually agreed upon first and it cannot be under duress. Otherwise nobody dropped the ball and this is just controlling behaviour. Also when these discussions are had the tasks need to be divided up and both held accountable to them. Once this is done, it isn’t nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:13 PM
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So you plan to abduct and indoctrinate peoples kids? You don’t have to have that many to have more than zero. The numbers suggest 60% - 70% will be conservative upon adulthood. Not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:06 PM
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You don’t give your friends the same thing you give your lover. It’s a different deeper connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:54 PM
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And now they don’t. Hence the future belongs to the conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:39 PM
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I think Naughty Nomad runs one with most of the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:33 PM
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Liberal women did this weird thing called “having children” between FDR and Today.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:55 PM
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Chateau Heartiste and its main writer Roissy were the absolute beating heart of the Red Pill in early years. They came close to doxxing him and he was a DC lawyer working in politics so he went underground. It’s amazing how effective the feminists were at destroying the Red Pill only to see the next generation to be absolute garbage men like Tate a Pimp Game Devotee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:51 PM
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Yeah normal couples are a mixed bag. When those folks find themselves in the Red Pill, it’s usually a really bad experience that triggers this. So I think your argument here is sound. The thing is that a lot of us in the original RP community used the techniques and knowledge to create bad relationships that benefit us. Over time I see a lot of men like myself just totally unwilling to put ourselves in a position that could be vulnerable again. I think there are definitely some items that the RP…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:44 PM
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I like that! Narrative is better than story to describe this. The thing is that we don’t realize is that your family and culture hands you a narrative and if you don’t take control and override any negative aspects of it… then you are never able to actually be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:35 PM
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I dream about sometimes getting the old crew together and doing stuff. A lot of us used to hang out IRL. We used to rent airbnbs and go to places just chill and chase women. The brotherhood was amazing! I miss it and I think it would save these black pill nihilistic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:27 PM
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They actually deplatformed most if the redpill gathering spots at the same time. The Reddit Red Pill guys were always on the border of being douchbags. Did you ever read Chateau Heartiste?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:48 PM
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I think this is a good explanation, but how I like to teach frame is that it’s the energy you enter into an interaction with. The story you tell yourself in your own mind changes the energy you project into the world. This is key to understanding frame because the very serious type men are boring to most women and if you make advances on them from that kind of energy it’s typically repulsive. Instead be fun and playful. That energy will get a better response most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:42 PM
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That’s because the black pill essentially took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:38 PM
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I can’t speak to the men under 30, but when I got into it years ago every guy had their origin story. A ridiculous number of us had been through horrible relationships. We know how blue pill men go through life and how women and other men use them. We don’t want that life for ourselves. We know how normal relationships work because we lived it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:37 PM
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This is exactly the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:30 PM
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Yes I understand what you are saying. Sometimes a woman wants to push a man and see what’s inside his heart. Weak effeminate men tend to gravitate to highly submissive women because it makes them feel more masculine and dominant. Yes, these men are dangerous in more ways than just physical violence. This would lead us into a discussion about “Nice Guys”, because they aren’t all one type. The vast majority of them aren’t weak or dangerous, they are actually just nice and they do this because it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:58 PM
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Women that challenge me are sexy. I seek them out. I find the lioness will often act like a house cat with me. The thing about masculinity is that I don’t care for other peoples versions of it. I came to terms with my own flaws years ago and I am already the man I want to be. My self perception is unshakeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:49 PM
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If you think politeness is grovelling then you are incapable of a health relationship anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:43 PM
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I don’t think you get what Im saying. It’s Ok. This is perhaps outside of your depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:40 PM
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Women are not doing so well as you imagine. I primarily date successful working women and their lives are constant struggle and stress. The lesson I learned when I got divorced was the law is the most important part of any relationship. Almost all of my relationships are fantastic because they occur on my terms where I have legal rights. I find that when a lot women are given power over someone they act in a most despicable manner even when they don’t want to. I see weak men doing the same. I ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:38 PM
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Are yelling, screaming, criticising, nagging, and things like that the only way to express your feelings and desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:23 PM
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At the start it was just a moral panic among the wealthy elites. I suspect they felt it could be used for political advantage to take down innocent opponents, but they quickly found 75% or more of the men being removed from positions were political allies, so they shut it down. The core morality of #MeToo is absolutely supremacist in nature. First, it pushed the idea “Believe All Women” and it did so openly acknowledging that some women will lie and that the damage done to innocent men doesn’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:21 PM
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Voting was passed by men. Women did not fight a war to achieve this. Men gave it to them at a time when Feminism was exclusively rich white women. Discrimination in hiring laws is I assume the Civil Rights Act, which Republicans passed primarily to prevent ongoing discrimination against black Americans. Feminists actually hurt this not help. Again bored rich white ladies making a mess of things. RBG, yes that was an achievement by a feminist. Her argument was very compelling. In my opinion she a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:56 AM
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That would be to suggest women don’t list after men… that’s definitely a blue pill idea. Women lust. It’s just not for the average Joe. I think most men come to terms with that at some point in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:45 AM
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We aren’t going to buy the marketing anymore. We see what feminism and feminists actually do… and it’s not what the marketing claims. It’s a supremacist movement, racism but for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:42 AM
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That makes sense only when you assume the man cares about nothing else, which is never the case. You can see that by what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:37 AM
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I find no fault in what you say here. The primary point I would like to make is that the Red Pill is more a theory on human nature than anything else. What conclusions people draw from that vary widely as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:12 AM
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Women who get walked over are typically seeking that. You will find them very particular about the am stepping on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:50 AM
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What you need to understand is that tone and energy matter. A woman who is respectful yet softly insistent will always get further with men than a woman who is a yapping chihuahua. Also a woman responds more to a man’s energy than to his behaviour. That is to say the way he projects his emotional state. You know this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:31 AM
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This is it. Most men just don’t want to fight at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:23 AM
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Isn’t the Red Pill science by your definition then? Generally in our culture when men are disadvantaged it’s their fault, when women are disadvantaged society is at fault. This broken shell of a moral system will collapse upon itself eventually and take a good many people with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:22 AM
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Not accurate. Some people do not respect anyone. Our culture breeds this. We have no honor and our ethical code is non existent. What those of us who are millennials are feeling is the rapid slide into a low trust society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:18 AM
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Blue Pill feminism absolutely lies to people about how many women are shallow and how shallow. That’s what you are failing to understand. I think most men never ever feel what it’s like to have a woman truly lust after them. The first time it happened to me it absolutely blew my mind. Getting to that point as a man is just extremely difficult. You have to have to essentially be the pinnacle of her “type”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:31 PM
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I can see that what you say is true. If you can’t allow for natural consequences then you need to create discipline. That means parents creating consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:08 AM
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If you want to know how to get rich, do you listen a person who was born rich, or do you listen to someone born poor who got rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:59 AM
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Well, tell that to the judge who gave my ex wife the house, and most of our assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:56 AM
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I can agree with that. Men need to set the same expectations for sex. An off day is fine but a pattern is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:54 AM
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Using for resources and then either abandoning or cheating on them. Even feminists dislike egalitarian men in most polls. I’m not talking about the women you are talking about. Although it is a substantial number.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:48 AM
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Ok that is pretty accurate. At its core RP is a group of sexual strategies to improve success with women. After that it’s all over the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:46 AM
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Name 3 feminist achievements for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:42 AM
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There is a reason the housewives of that era were bored and now they are overworked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:18 PM
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I am a millennial, and to my opinion nothing changed much. The main thing that stops women is feeling safe and over the years that need has increased, but it’s just like you say if sexual attraction hits a certain point safety stops mattering, but those situations are pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:12 PM
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To answer your question directly, No I don’t think women should take advice from men. They should especially ignore handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:08 PM
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Feminism did none of that. Men did it and most of it was done before feminism. Feminism like Freedom Torches is just a tool for the wealthy elites to maintain power by making the dumbest and most gullible women fight the very men that would naturally be helping them achieve a better life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:03 PM
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If you are depressed and hopeless then you are black pill, not red.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:59 PM
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This is like admitting you don’t actually know what the RP wants. For one thing, most men don’t care about chores. We don’t tend to have the need for “stuff” the way women do. The guys who collect action figures and stuff don’t tend to be RP. The most unrealistic and unfair thing I see from RP men over the years is not about aging, it’s about weight. I literally watched one of my RP buddies get hit up by this overweight 20 year old girl only to have him ask her fit 50 year old mom for her number…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:58 PM
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It depends on what you are talking about. If you mean relationship power dynamics, then women constantly gravitate towards dominant men, while using and abusing egalitarian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:47 PM
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If you ever knew the greatest generation the men were very clean, hard working, and organized. This stands in stark contrast to lazy disorganised boomer men. From what I can tell, something like 45% of men in that generation served in the military and having a drill sergeant kick your butt for not making your bed properly has an impact on a young man. The downside to this is that they also expected their wives to be just as organised and tidy as them. So I think this whole thing is about culture…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:40 PM
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They also have more domestic violence. Most lesbians are just horrible people. Of the ones I’ve known only a handful were really cool and chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:22 PM
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Yeah I’ve experienced that stuff before too. What I’m saying though is that you see women always cheat on specific types of men. If you aren’t that type of guy then all you need to do is pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:17 PM
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Men do not tend to lie about this stuff as much. I would say though that it’s important to look at who the man is before taking his words seriously. Tom Brady is going to give way different dating advice than your average guy. There are some women who give damn good advice. Usually it’s the type other women hate, because she is giving the game away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:10 PM
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I have a daughter and I coach one of her sports teams. The stuff I see from moms is borderline insane. I see 8 year old boys who can’t wipe their own ass because their mom does it for them. I see them consistently devouring the independence and freedom of their children. This has been going on for generations. Kids fight, the mom steps in to fix it. The kids need to go to a field trip, the moms pack for it like a doomsday prepper. Kid has 3 full outfits, snacks, entertainment, first aid kits, em…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:58 PM
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Nobody is capable of 100% all the time and expecting it is not acceptable. We wouldn’t allow an employer to abuse us in this way, why would we allow a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:23 PM
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Sorry it’s the wrong one but the Research team is the same. The study is the one about group size affecting how women rate men and also how it makes them more critical of current partners. There is also a study showing how men are super shallow in their up front criteria but are not shallow in their actual Selection criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:14 PM
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This might be it. https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/ReciprocityRevisionFinal.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:45 PM
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This is a really complicated thing. You should understand that part of the issue is that men feel powerless in modern marriages. That drives a big part of this dynamic. If a woman loses respect for her man, she will lose her love for him soon after. Weak men are hard to respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:33 AM
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This is very good. The thing is actually that women want attention, and it’s not a bad thing. This same dynamic is why a woman will endure all kinds of financial hardship with you when the love and attention is there. It’s not always like that because everyone is a bit different, but this is also why so many women expect you to read their minds. It’s part anxiety over asking directly, but also if you can give her something she wants without asking it proves you understand and pay attention to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:20 AM
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Rich women cheat with more masculine men because their husbands are focused on providing them big lifestyles and not the other things she needs. Cheating clauses should be automatic in marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:08 AM
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This is where you actually have to get to know her and you need to pay attention to what you do. For women, they always tend to cheat on a certain kind of man. If you aren’t the nice guy doormat type then your odds of having an issue decline a lot. On the other hand if you ignore her a lot or are cheating on her then your odds go way up. So if she is cheating because she plans to monkey branch it not necessarily a guarantee she will do it again, especially if other women consistently want you. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:05 AM
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Ok, at the macro level. What demographic benefited most from DEI? Hint - it’s not black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:49 AM
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That isn’t disrespect. Actually most of that list applies to children more than anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:26 PM
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Yes, individual results may vary, but generalities only apply in aggregate. 100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:22 PM
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Look, just saying, if Mongols show up in my lifetime, I’m going to throw my lot in with them. You won’t see me fighting and dying for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:20 PM
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PEOPLE are naturally violent and oppressive. In power women are just as bad if not worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:48 PM
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Yes, you live in a big rich powerful country. Everyone thinks that until the Mongols show up and teach you how human society really works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:44 PM
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At the institutional level, not the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:41 PM
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Oh, I’m not talking about individual people, I’m talking about culture and legal/governmental structures. I agree that respect is not common today. We have created a moral system that our culture operates under that grants special rights and allows people to publicly disrespect or disparage entire groups of people but not others. We essentially have a gender class system built into our public moral code and it’s deeply wrong. I think this is what pushes individual women and men to be disrespectf…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:40 PM
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I don’t think men in general are really upset about women having narrow preferences. This has always been true. This is about the way women treat men they aren’t attracted to. There is an immense lack of respect and it pervades every level of society today in the west. There is an almost insane edge to it. It’s like kicking your pitbull every day and expecting it to never bite you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:09 PM
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Women are as they are. You can’t bitch at them to change. The solution is to change the culture. If hypergamy is the problem then letting women be at the top is just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:55 PM
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This is a completely situational assessment. If I dropped you in the middle of Afghanistan you would feel a lot different. So essentially what you are saying is that your parents, grandparents, and generations past sacrificed so that you would have this luxury. The funny thing is that the more you all act like tyrannical dictators… the more likely it’s going to come to an abrupt end. You already got a lot of men itching for it. The only thing holding it back is older established family men who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:20 PM
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Depends on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 06:31 PM
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Men intentionally obscure their goals because otherwise women will pick someone else. If women do not reward honesty then they won’t get it. This is just how life works. Only stupid people punish honesty, and then expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:54 PM
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We have a general idea of how the tinder algorithm works. I’ve never used Hinge, so I don’t know. But look at the curve for OKcupid. Women rate 80% of men below average in looks. Now take that to a swipe app where all you have to go on is looks and make the gender ratio 60% men 40% women. What do you think is going to happen? Do you think it reflects real life or is the app taking advantage of people to make them pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:50 PM
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OH, this is the OKCupid data! Well OKCupid ran a totally different algorithm. This is from a time when most of the people using online dating were considered losers. So the women using it were not particularly attractive. Also, it’s not a hookup ap it’s for people who want relationships. It also did a fantastic job of giving women more than just a photo to go off of. If there was something similar today, you would find men and women both having a much better experience with dating. Do you know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:28 AM
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Look at that drop off at the top. What does the graph for women look like? If you are correct we should see a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:20 PM
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I think what you don’t understand is that at the end of the day, most men will just take what they can get AND WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT IT. The same just does not hold true for most women. Also 2/3rds 1/3rd would mean 60% of men chasing 30% of women. That is magnitudes more healthy market than the typical 80/20 split we typically see with women. The most telling study is the one that showed women raise and lower what they find attractive based on what they perceive to be the pool of available men. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:16 PM
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It’s because men are being taught that they SHOULD open up and be emotionally vulnerable with their partners and it’s anyone one of those cultural level betrayals where we lie to men in order to take advantage of them. Traditional culture is generally honest with everyone about human nature and what actions will take you in positive directions and which won’t. Post 1960s culture seeks to exploit women for sex and men for resources by lying to them about everything. It is primarily bitter older w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:04 PM
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Sure are a lot of women who like violent men though…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:14 AM
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Some men are violent. You need men who can protect you from them. How is this not readily apparent??? Also…. What is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:13 AM
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That doesn’t explain why they love dark skinned asian women. I think it’s 2 parts. Growing up I never felt girls of African descent in particular liked me, actually it felt more like hate. Also the media portrayals are horrible, always masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:10 AM
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This applies most strongly to non white progressive women. Anything you set up as dangerous will also be a bit sexy to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:00 AM
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It just feels like that because dudes aren’t trying to date each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:55 PM
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The Feminist response to grooming gangs is vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:31 PM
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I Agree it’s not literally true but it is functionally true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:28 PM
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I’m pretty sure Epstein was working for US intelligence agencies. I also think they killed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:25 PM
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Significant overlap between Bernie Bros and Trump voters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:55 PM
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I see no major difference between the attitude of Roman Patricians toward slaves of their day, than someone like Kathy Reummler’s view of Epstein victims. Our government creeps just have a whole propaganda machine designed to fool you into thinking people like her are different because they worked for Obama… and unsurprisingly Bush too back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:50 PM
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I was 37 when my daughter was born. She’s 7 now and I got back into jogging so I can keep my energy up to do stuff with her. It’s probably my top health motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:14 PM
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The answer is no one knows for sure. We just see in research that this lifestyle makes people disconnected anxious and incapable of being content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:40 PM
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It’s not about that. It’s about government funding of feminist infrastructure for stuff like this. We pour billions into women’s studies every year and nothing into men’s studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:30 PM
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Very good points!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:20 PM
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Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:20 PM
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The answer is that nobody knows for sure. Humans have tried lots of different ways in the past to organise societies and we know what worked and what didn’t. We also have some very pointed opinions from ancient writers on the subject. Ignoring that seems stupid, but the blue pill does this almost reflexively. We can see in study after study, women are always less happy and less content in every type of relationship and living situation. It makes me feel that maybe we shouldn’t measure women by h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:19 PM
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So there is benefit to a woman dating a man that’s older given certain common desires. I think that benefit begins to decline after a 5 year gap and then more rapidly decline after 10. Being a caretaker is not the main issue. I do not suggest women go over 10 years because life stage and lifestyle often become mismatched. The biggest thing though is that children need their father well into adulthood. Ideally you want a man that can get your children into their 30s or 40s. I don’t think people r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:51 PM
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It’s because the deep down the blue pill is just whatever benefits women most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:39 PM
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This I can’t argue with. It’s a winner take all system.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:50 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:46 AM
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The choice MUST come before the feeling and must be preeminent. This is why men ask this question. If you just follow some animal feeling then that feeling will change and then you have nothing. We always used to say a man is loyal to a woman and a woman is loyal to her feelings. If you are constantly swept away by your own emotions you are like an animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:46 AM
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That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:39 AM
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You don’t know Ukrainian women. Yeah some of the single girls are partying in Europe but they tend to be rich ones that are politically connected. Generally speaking Usonian women are pretty good. I know a ton of them, mostly married to Ukrainian men and the joke is that 5 kids are the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:36 AM
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It goes back to your definition of love. When two people define things differently misunderstandings occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:33 AM
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It depends on experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:21 AM
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Love is a choice and it’s a choice you make every day regardless of options. If you think love is just a feeling, well feelings come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:15 PM
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Why can’t you understand this? Is love to women is picking the one that fits her the best from all of her 7 foot tall billionaire heir vampire and werewolf suitors? Do you think that matches the male experience. Options aren’t required for love. We don’t sit around wondering the rest of our lives if maybe the werewolf was a better for us. This whole mindset makes you seem ridiculous. Most guys only get one or two real shots at love in a lifetime and you need to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:09 PM
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Money helps man, it’s a bald face lie to suggest otherwise. Much better to explain WHY money helps and then they can find a way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:55 PM
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Why are you so unhelpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:33 PM
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You can blame them all you want but it’s actually our fault as a culture and as a society. As a last gap, parents are supposed to teach their kids about love and dating. So what the hell are we doing beyond just throwing boys to the wolves and the hating them if they make choices the culture doesn’t like. We do NOTHING positive for them at any point in their lives. All our culture does is shame and attack them. I grew up like that. It’s why I hate the system and use all my wealth and power to sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:28 PM
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Funny, but not really helpful to someone who is probably genuinely asking a question and not just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:17 PM
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It depends on how you do this. 95% of the male population is going to be very understanding. Another 30% is going to want to know the guy who did it and whip him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:49 AM
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Uh, the German women sexual assault issues have a Muslim component. You have to factor out women harassed or attack by Islamic men to find actual rates of these things. You could also find a study that predates 2000 because Turkish Muslims are not that different from East Germans in terms of sexual harassment and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:46 AM
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If you want to get to the core of the problem it isn’t Hollywood, it’s an entire culture that pushes women’s empowerment but does nothing for men and boys. In fact some of that empowerment comes directly at the expense of boys and they aren’t allowed to complain. There is a palpable unfairness in the system and we can all feel it. It needs to be acknowledged and addressed or things will boil over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:57 AM
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When someone says something is unfair… maybe address the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:49 AM
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Should we list every negative experience we have ever had with women? Does that justify hate or negative views of someone you’ve never met?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:45 AM
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Now take what you just said and then say it about black people. You cant! Doing that would make you a racist. Well the same concept applies to gender. I don’t expect you to just trust all men. I expect you to be able to see that groups are formed by individuals and you must see people as individuals first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:42 AM
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Even harem stories the main character focuses on one woman typically the first. Men value what they build and relationships take work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:44 PM
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Haha… you understand this so well it’s like you actually have experience. When did we stop telling young men this? How did the Red Pill turn black?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:15 PM
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There is a group of people at the top who organise and run institutions based on these beliefs and thus bring them into reality. I have no greater influence and power on such people than an 18 year old Russian front line soldier has on the people who put him there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:03 PM
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30% just wouldn’t ever. That 70% though, a lot of it depends on you. I mean what are the chances your wife runs into some celebrity rich handsome guy and he wants to pursue her? Every lady kind of has a type and that type is deeply tied to how she sees herself. The way women perceive themselves and the story they write about their lives within their own minds is extremely important to what they find attractive. This is why culture matters so much. Australian women have a deep sense that all men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:23 PM
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The more we rig the system to benefit women and exploit men, the more men that will just refuse to play the game. So, this isn’t on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:14 PM
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Lying to a lair and cheating a cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:05 PM
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I made all the same mistakes you did, plus maybe a few extra. I was maybe not as mentally healthy as you afterwards because I went down a darker path for a while. I had this issue where I would chase married women, and I came away with some hard opinions based on my experiences. I’d say 30% of women just will not cheat regardless of what happens. The rest of them it’s all about having the right man pursue them at the right time. I don’t care what anyone says most women are pretty damn bored with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:02 PM
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I’m asking specifically because I believe you have been thinking about it. What if I told you that I had the exact same experience, and that after changing myself a bit it has never happened again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:10 PM
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Why did your ex wife cheat? Shouldn’t that be what you are trying to work through? What if it’s not about her? What if most women would have either cheated on you or dumped you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:24 PM
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That isn’t natural. Men are built to care. We just live in a culture that intentionally broke all of those bonds and this is the result. Do not complain when you get what you want. Women demand that a man who protects a woman on a subway train gets prosecuted for it. Then they are upset men won’t get involved when someone attacks or threatens them. You cannot have both and if you want one then you must be the one to stand against the women who think they can have both, because men are institutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:57 PM
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Women don’t care about hurting or using men either, so it’s all fair in love and war…. Except we don’t have a love Geneva Convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:51 PM
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TRP is generally about oppressed men taking back their power in the only way they can. You may not like the moral implications of it, but that’s how it is. The reason they aren’t trying to fix the world is because THEY CANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:49 PM
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If you take someone on a date, what is the point in blowing it up at the last minute? When you have a desired outcome then do things that make what you want likely to happen. Look if Chad didn’t have to wait, but you don’t get any action until the 5th date, you don’t have to marry her. Just have fun, get your nut, take it as far as you want to go and then you say “chad didn’t have to wait”. At that point saying it holds actual meaning and you have gained the experience you need to be better. So,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:41 PM
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Nobody puts 4-6 months of effort into building a relationship and then just dips out after sex… unless the sex was extremely bad. This just isn’t really a thing and in the rare cases it does happen other men will be very understanding. If it’s a serious concern, stay a virgin until you are married. Serious men don’t complain about that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:31 PM
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I’ve had some try this on me and I can feel it making me more open. Thing is that I have ZERO trust. But you are correct about how all this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:47 AM
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Yes I disagree it’s totally insane. I mean what is the goal? Here is the thing, throughout the date, you should be running ever increasing tests to check her interest levels. Long before the end of the date you should have already been probing her boundaries. There should be a very passionate kissing session at the end and then if you cant close the deal then you schedule the next meet-up. But seriously most of these issues are caused by poor logistics and a failure to escalate correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:44 AM
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Bro, that is the kind of thought process you keep to yourself. Do you go around barking at dogs? Your word will have no meaning to her and she wouldn’t care even if they did
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:32 AM
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I seriously doubt anyone does that. If he did it would justify a slap to the face. Red Pill used to teach escalation techniques and they are ridiculously effective, but this is the opposite of that and it’s just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:24 AM
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100% you create the space and she will tell you most of what you need to know or show it to you either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:05 AM
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That’s super duper rare. Besides 99.9% of men are going to be understanding of that situation. Nobody is marrying virgins anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:03 AM
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It’s actually not. We basically just want 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:57 AM
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Don’t sleep around. Don’t sleep around with evil men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:56 AM
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You need to be able to differentiate between types of men. When you don’t it makes you delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:04 PM
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Well, they don’t because you don’t. When you do, they do too. I’m talking IRL. The rules are different online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 04:34 PM
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You need to account for men who have been hurt. Most of them get angry as part of the healing process. They aren’t supposed to get stuck there and that’s the cultures failure in large part to address their very legitimate concerns. Like if you just got divorced from your cheating Ex and lost most everything you own… it’s going to take some time to get over that. Fixing the system would help a lot, but I’ve come to believe it’s built this way specifically to destroy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:51 AM
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What makes this comment ridiculous is the failure to acknowledge the difference between short term and long term mating strategies in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:42 AM
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Imagine nobody has ever made you feel desirable in your entire life. I’m not sure you can, but that’s where a lot of guys are at emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:04 PM
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No we don’t. Porn is bad enough for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:01 PM
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Women find an erect penis in a stranger threatening. Nothing is going to change that. If anything future social collapse is going to reinforce it. The male form just symbolises something very different. Weak people will always see a representation of Masculinity as something that is frightening. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:56 PM
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A lot of conservatives are blue pilled. If a man believes women are wonderful, he can maintain that belief while also knowing one woman is not wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:17 PM
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Think about it. When you believe that women are perfect and you put them on a pedestal, how do you perceive the ones who act differently than you believe they should? It’s very common for such men to become angry and feel the woman should be punished. It justifies a lot of very nasty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:25 PM
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I was raised by communist atheists to believe both genders are naturally the same and that all differences are due to social pressures and childhood training. That view of humanity is a lie. I’m certain of that. When I look at the Red Pill and look at various Religions the overlap is very large. The problem all groups of humans face is competition for resources. Men work together to create, protect, and take from others these resources. Women just do not naturally share these impulses from what …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:31 PM
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They are the guys like Weinstein. Losers who actually think women women will overlook their vile appearance and cockroach personality for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:04 AM
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Keep an eye on blue pill men. They are the most angry and frustrated when women do not think and act however they expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 09:11 PM
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Ok… this is actually something that even 20 years ago was hotly debated. There was never any kind of agreement on the origin of the blue pill. Most of us believe it’s a corruption of Victorian Christian Culture that took hold in the late 1800s. It has some very strong overlap with feminist ideas about women from the 2nd wave onwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:52 PM
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I think where we disagree is that you think of the Red Pill as a sexual strategy for men, while it has been traditionally defined as a set of beliefs regarding the nature of women. From your perspective yeah Islam is Trad Con because that’s a sexual strategy and Latin America is Red Pill because that’s their sexual strategy. So I understand how you see this. What do you do with Red Pill men who don’t sleep around, marry virgins and live trad con lives? Do you just not consider them Red Pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:43 PM
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3rd world countries do not have sexual liberation for women because they are already red pill. Spanish countries in Latin America… already red pill, Islam is hyper red pill… Asia is a weird combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:30 PM
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The problem I have with your take on this is that I was there in the Pickup Artist Community when the term Red Pill and Blue Pill originally got coined. The Red Pill is from the Matrix and it represents becoming aware of the true nature of women. You have the origin backwards. Red Pill is not what is taught in schools, it’s not what is pushed in Hollywood, and it’s certainly not what you see in academic papers or in corporate boardrooms. All of these institutions hold and teach very similar view…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:26 PM
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Those are two different things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:33 PM
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Yeah that is a very convenient belief if you just want to justify a one night stand. Convenient beliefs are usually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:22 PM
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… sun exposure. It’s 90% about sun exposure. The rest helps too, but Sun exposure and genetics are key factors. Also… being Asian helps a lot, I’m half convinced S Korea is full of vampires. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:06 PM
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People don’t stop growing. What you need to do is actively choose to grow together and not grow apart. This is a particularly difficult time for the Church. See a lot of single people struggling to match up. I honestly don’t think dating is a good system. I hope you find someone good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:02 PM
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Tate runs Pimp Game. Back in the day he would have been laughed out of the Red Pill, but they deplatformed everyone around 2018 and left the field wide open to idiots like him. Pimp game is literally where you seek to make money off the women you date. Men running this today put their GFs on OnlyFans and cash the checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:57 PM
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Blue pill does have a set belief. Says women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:49 PM
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If that was true then why is the blue pill so tightly confined to English speaking countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:48 PM
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Who do you think men pursue for marriage if not the women that make all men wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:47 PM
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Well a 4 and a 5 together make a 9 right? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:19 PM
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That is definitely a weakness for a lot of women. When it’s all unconscious and you don’t know how it works, it’s much easier for a man who does understand to manipulate it. Red Pill men used to spend an inordinate amount of time learning women and never realising how much of the same thing applies to us. Porn isn’t capable of helping men understand what turns us on. For one thing, porn can’t make a man feel desired, it can’t provide intimacy. Porn for the most part represents a male fantasy bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:02 PM
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How do you feel about that? I’m fairly introverted by nature, but not being involved in friend groups makes me feel… not lonely more like anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:48 PM
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Men don’t often get the chance to explore how their attraction mechanisms work. Most of us just don’t get many choices. If you actually pin a guy down and get him to think hard about it, you will find that there is a difference between what is beautiful and what is sexy to us. It’s not that different from your experience of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:37 PM
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lol… the first time I dated through a women’s friend group I got by dating the best looking one of all the friends. I was also dating another woman in a nearby town. The thing is that I REALLY liked her friend group because they were the party type working women. A few months in she got tired of me being half in half out of the relationship and dumped me. I wanted to stay in the group so I went crying to her single and less pretty friend. Then months later I went back to the original woman, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:12 PM
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This isn’t harem stuff. Usually it’s one after the other. If you want a harem type situation then you need to get a woman who likes that. Look for one that is deeply, deeply submissive, open to being bisexual, and you have to come across as very powerful. I’ve had this situation only one time openly and it’s a complicated story. To keep it short I wound up dating a woman who managed a high end restaurant and she would frequently bring other women into the relationship with us. I didn’t choose th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:52 PM
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I spent some time approaching groups of women in public and talking to them. Over time I learned to read group dynamics and got an almost sixth sense for them. I can’t tell you that there is anything beyond reading body language that can tell you which friend groups this is likely to happen with and which ones it won’t. This happens with men too, it’s just they tend to either accommodate or end the friendship immediately. To answer your questions. 1. A lot of women don’t have to be OK with somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:39 PM
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I read your response and it sums up as “I don’t always like what other women like, but I do know what I like when I see it”. You are conveying a feeling not so much an idea and most guys will not be able to relate to that feeling. They relate to ideas it often requires specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:30 AM
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I’ve dated my way through more than one ladies friend group. The “He’s not my type” statement is for public approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:22 AM
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It depends on who you are and how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:33 PM
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It depends on who you are. I was there with some black guys a couple years ago and women practically lined up around the block. I’ve never seen anything like it and I’ve dated in a lot of different places.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:32 PM
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This is a repudiation of the common “The Patriarchy created marriage to oppress women” argument. Female monogamy only matters for women of status. With that status comes protection. So let’s say you are a low status woman in a tribal confederation camp. You cannot deny any man who wants to sleep with you. If a man wants to kill you, nobody will stop him. If you want food you must procure it yourself and also find a way to keep it because everyone wants to take it from you. How do you survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:39 PM
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This is just a cultural thing. She is bragging him up and saying how great he was, making the other ladies jealous. I mean if she talked about how she took care of him then she would be selling herself and how wonderful she is as a person. Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:02 PM
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Those are completely different types of sex. Men engage in them for different reasons. Ok, think of sex for men as an interplay between power and intimacy. So for a man sex without love is going to be very low intimacy. It will be for the woman as well. Which means the focus will be on power or domination. Once you understand this then it starts to make sense why men won’t have too much trouble dating a woman that slept with one intimate partner 1000 times, but will be tormented in dating a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:27 AM
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Haha… jumped the track and kept going until all that was left is flaming wreckage. On reflection, both genders do this quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:11 AM
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Yeah, you and Lillith are mixing up falling in love with feeling loved. A woman can make me feel loved, that doesn’t mean I’m going to feel that back. What makes me fall in love isn’t sex or looks. I know we always say women are complicated but men are pretty hard to figure out too, we don’t even know ourselves very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:50 PM
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Don’t confuse it with falling in love. Receiving love is different from giving it. Men do NOT fall in love through sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:39 PM
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I read your posts and you are hard headed for sure, and kind of give off afraid of men vibes, but I respect it. I do like the way you think. The thing is that you aren’t supposed to just trust men. You check them and find out what they are all about first, then you trust them little by little as they show you who they are inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:23 PM
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No, it’s true. It applies to pump and dumpers too. It’s your job to vet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:47 PM
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I got involved with this wife swapping group about 15 years ago. When a man pushes for this he isn’t attracted to his wife. It was mostly IT nerds with high incomes and a strong desire to sleep with blond women if you catch what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:16 PM
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That was the 1970s. Get with the times boomer!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:12 PM
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The only time poly relationships really work is when the man is highly attractive and also high status. The other time is when the woman is abysmally unattractive. Having other men get excited over her can sometimes increase sexual interest, but only for highly effeminate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:09 PM
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Men feel loved through sex. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:06 PM
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Sex tourism isn’t going away. The “developed” parts of the world are rapidly undeveloping. Once Europe has a Muslim majority all of the white feminists will be put into the streets as prostitutes anyway. Men from all over the world will have access to them on the cheap. It’s already happening as the Pakistani gangs in the UK were putting these girls up for free use and sometimes didn’t even charge guys money. Feminists are so unintelligent they are the top group demanding the importations of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:22 PM
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It’s not a scam. I had put as little information as possible in the bio section and let my photos do all the talking. With good photos I was getting nice results. I travel a lot for work too so I can see differences from city to city. I heard this data point and so I added just this to my bio and it made a huge difference, but not everywhere. Women in more rural areas couldn’t care less. The bigger the city the more it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:18 PM
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Who had freedom back then? The more you make the power of violence an individual choice the weak have very few real freedoms. We are talking about a period where you take what you want from other people and you only worry about what men in your coalition think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:10 PM
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Even a degree from Harvard in 2024 is not the same quality as a degree from Harvard in 2004. I don’t know if you have seen but they dropped down the list quite a bit the last few years. But yeah I understand what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:01 PM
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Haha… I know guys who fell in love with people who didn’t even cross the “woman” bar. See you are talking about two different things. Men can be very shallow up front, but they are also very flexible. This only matters at the start because after two people begin getting to know each other the shallow things become less and less important. Women in today’s world have this belief in unlimited options. They actually aren’t that shallow, but a lot of them won’t ever get a chance to realise that. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:51 PM
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People have these things called emotions. I’m not sure you have ever heard of them, but men do this strange thing called “ falling In love”. I forget, what was your point again?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 07:07 AM
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If you put MBA on your Tinder account, your matches go up like 40% in most cities. Interesting right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:18 AM
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Doesn’t equity require stronger intervention to achieve?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:12 AM
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Over 60% of 4 year degrees have gone to women for something like 30 years. With a gender imbalance that big it’s almost inevitable isn’t it? I’m not sure it’s meaningful though. It’s mostly just status, a lot of majors don’t actually confer much expertise or knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:51 AM
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Do you really think these things are the same? I mean everyone has their struggles, but not being able to get what you want in a partner just isn’t the same as not being able to get anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:38 AM
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Well, the original term comes from the Matrix and it is specifically in reference to the mating behaviour of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 02:30 AM
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You are not incorrect, the wiki is incorrect. The proof is that most cultures do not have a red pill movement or anything like it, because it’s a reaction to blue pill cultural indoctrination. Where we run into problems is identifying where the blue pill comes from. There was never any wide spread agreement, however the core seems to be a corruption of Christian teaching that likely gave rise to the Feminist movement. Blue Pill beliefs are strongest in areas that were originally Calvinist… so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:47 PM
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Yup. People choosing their own spouse is fairly new. I think it requires very honest messages to young kids about what they will tend to find attractive in a spouse. Right now all we do is try to indoctrinate kids into choosing what the culture wants us to choose. I think the difference is particularly jarring for young women who up until only recently had a wide gap between what type they were told to be attracted to and what type they actually found attractive. This same messaging delivered to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:42 PM
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Look a lot of these guys are trapped in dishonest social messaging. Let’s not pretend that our culture doesn’t indoctrinate boys into thinking they that money and niceness is all women want from them. Interesting how it seems to create generation after generation of easily exploitable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:34 PM
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The nice men are secretly bad guys is just a cheap and easy to see through excuse for choosing big dumb violent men. Most of human history people rarely chose their own marriage partner. This is why. Men and women both suck at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:28 PM
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I think the blue pill is a corruption of Christian belief. It definitely exists and it’s confined to English Speaking countries. Islam is 100% Red Pill as are large parts of Asia, Africa, and most of the Spanish Speaking world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:54 PM
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This is incorrect. The blue pill is in essence the Women are Wonderful cultural take that we are all subjected to as kids and force fed until something breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:51 PM
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This is how most of us think. With highly political stuff like the Epstein files, they know we think this way so you have to look beyond the headlines. Women had been accusing Cosby since the 60s, but his involvement in civil rights protected him. Same with Weinstein. If you actually look at this stuff the guys who get away with it for decades are all highly connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:48 PM
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I would say a commitment to what you promised. If you said let’s be together 5 years and then reevaluate, give it 5 years. If you said together forever… do what you must to keep your word.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:41 PM
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No, divorce fucks kids up. I remember as a kid every friend whose parents divorced or were divorced had issues. A few of them even died of overdose. Do I want to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with me? There are things in life more important than your feelings. Do you have no honour? If you don’t mean your promises then you are a liar. So I would expect her to keep her promise to the best of her ability regardless of feelings. I honestly do not feel like you have an adult thought process…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:22 PM
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You are wrong on all of these points. A relationship is a commitment. What kind of person rips apart their child’s life because they are bored? Get a hobby. We need to get rid of no fault divorce. What you need to understand is that in low trust societies, nothing works and everyone loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:13 PM
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If you consider cartel member an ethnic background, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:49 PM
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Sure, as long as the core goal is to learn how to deal successfully with women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:48 PM
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Apologies I was just pointing out that men of all ethnic backgrounds are beginning to vote together for the first time in US history. I will delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:17 AM
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Let’s also talk about what the Bogeyman and Bigfoot are going to do! Fuck there are less than 10,000 of these people nationwide mostly in super rural areas. This is just a dumb topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:32 AM
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Left wing Churches are crashing. Right wing churches have grown so much it’s prevented a decline. Most conservative churches are way up in attendance. I expect it to flatline, unless Gen Z left wing women really wind up childless at 40 while Christians average 4 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:28 AM
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The average Christian family is now on track to 4 kids in Gen Z, while atheists are at 0.3. Over 70% of left wing atheist women in Gen Z will never have kids. What’s even better is that recent non white immigrants are more religious than any American generation in over 100 years and we can see it barely changes by generation. It will take some time, but the Age of the Dodo Birds will be over in a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:23 AM
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It’s already illegal and when there aren’t enough to go around Feminists demand on importing the creeps and won’t let anyone kick them out. I think this is a distraction tactic. We don’t want to see false accusations made illegal, and I kind of get why but it’s deeply counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:17 AM
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I don’t think this is true. I think most of history survival as a man was the most important. Women were a given after that. Most of the time sex was with other men. If you needed a woman and there were none around, you just went out and took one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:35 AM
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Well my first time was with a woman who is almost exactly my height. Although I am a lot stronger, I was extremely uncomfortable being dominant. I think that I probably would have liked it, she kind of forced me into a dominant role later and I liked it, but she was borderline OCD control freak. Fantasy at that time almost exclusively revolved around a woman just being attracted to me. It’s funny how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:17 PM
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😂 That makes perfect sense. It was the context of the relationship and partner choice that drove this. Did you have fantasies? I probably had a lot in common with you as a young man. I valued the intimacy and giving pleasure more than any other aspect of sex. Now it’s more mature, more mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:36 PM
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This is actually much more simple than it looks. She is submitting to another man’s domination AND SEED.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:31 PM
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Interesting perspective. Thank you for asking this question. I would say that even just laying there like a princess is effeminate and submissive even if it’s high status. We have this sense that not having to put out effort indicates royalty, but I’m not sure that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:22 PM
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This makes me wonder what kind of sex you were having. You never considered the idea that having something hard repeatedly rammed inside of you was submissive? Even the wording people use like Smash or Hit It has violent sounding connotations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:14 PM
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… and this is why I don’t like oral. Women look at me like I’m insane, but I like to go down on them so end of the day everyone is happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:11 PM
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No, but sometimes it’s part of a role play. Yes No. If I felt like that I would go find someone else. It comes from Biology. Hormone differences cause these shifts in feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:04 PM
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Ok, yeah I agree. A lot of the confusion is from previously right wing people taking up socially left wing positions and essentially dominating party leadership. I’m solidly Center right on social policy, but always voted left because I care about the economy than who pees in the girls bathroom. But here comes Trump saying he will cap credit card jnterest rates… and while I don’t believe he will do it a lot if other people are willing to take the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:38 PM
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You have to keep in mind that everything is a series of tradeoffs and people are better off being flexible, so a group will need people with a wide variety of traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:28 PM
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Oh you are just comparing to European politics. Look, my parents are middle class blue collar union folks. I’m aligned pretty tight with that and we are solid Center left. Most of us pushed for Sanders. I think half went for Trump despite how crazy he is in 2024. I don’t know what’s going to happen in the midterms. I don’t fit either party today but I like FDR above all other Presidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:15 PM
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That sounds like interesting research and it makes sense to me in some respects. I will look it up. I believe it does more than create fear responses. I personally shy away from overly simplistic conclusions when it comes to neuroscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:03 PM
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What do you mean international standards? Im in the US and I don’t think you know what is right and left anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:30 PM
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Center right? Im Center left. Democrats are to the left of me significantly. How far left are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:05 PM
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Both men and women have short and long term mating strategies, and what I’m talking about for men applies to both. You do not want to go into women’s short and long term mating strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:03 PM
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Evolution doesn’t work like Pokémon. It’s random and then fit to an environmental niche. Unless you believe in God it’s not directed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:01 PM
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It’s hard to explain, but I think what you are saying is close enough to correct that the details are unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:57 PM
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Totally agree with you on the desires of corporate executives and how they wield power. I created a startup company in 2016 and got fairly close to VC. They don’t think the way I had expected them to think. Wealth is a competition and if you can’t make more that the other rich people, then you try to get them taxed while you get the loopholes. Actually, there is so much to it that nobody realises. They know labor supply increases drive down wages, also people working under the table gets them ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:42 PM
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Those are both good points. Men definitely overestimate how much women are into muscle. The key to this is understanding the balance between women feeling safe with you vs feeling safe from you. Which kind of goes into a side explanation of the hat we mean by women liking high testosterone traits. Women tend to like the behavioural side effects of genetically controlled traits. So yes muscle is part of that but just as much is dominance, confidence, risk taking, and aggression. All of these also…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:24 PM
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Oh, so you are worried about keeping him. Well if he is happy with you it’s unlikely he would want to chase another woman. So don’t worry too much about it, unless of course he isn’t happy. Maybe your time is better spent worrying about vetting the men you are bringing in for sex offenders than freaking out that some guy you aren’t even interested in is going to fall in love and have a family. The priority list here says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:00 PM
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All I can say is that the more testosterone I have in my system the more almost all women become beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:41 PM
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You know it’s not true. Did some guy ditch you for a Brazilian? Is that what this is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:22 PM
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I was a Democrat for a long time because of everything in the first paragraph. My father is a big trade union guy. None of that stuff is really true about them anymore and it comes across as out of touch boomer talk. It hasn’t been true for a long time now and I live in a deep blue state. Most regulation is fake, big corporations get exempted when they want and small businesses that compete with them get regulated to death, which is the point. It’s not about public safety it’s about limiting com…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:09 PM
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The idea that marriage is sex slavery is too stupid to bother with. Besides if women cared about that they would be demanding gruuming gangs be deported immediately rather than doing whatever they can to ensure they have more access to 12 year old girls to abduct and abuse. How many victims have feminists created? 500,000? 1 million?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 PM
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Oh I see why what I said is confusing. Men are visual, but when a man looks at you he is trying to find you attractive. He will pick out and focus on your good features. He is looking primarily at indicators of mental health, so grooming and not overeating are significant. Women do the opposite. They are looking for reasons to disqualify a man. They focus heavily on genetic traits like height and high testosterone indicators. Even the behavioural traits they prefer are primarily based on a man’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:38 PM
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The fact that you find this idea so threatening is proof that it’s desperately needed. If women want to import foreign grapists they still can, you just need to marry them yourself rather than bring them in unlimited quantities to torment and abuse underage middle class girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:23 PM
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If you think progressive policies are in favor of men and that there is a patriarchy, you either aren’t very bright or you expect to benefit from others misery. There is only Oligarchy and it’s always been that way. Progressive policies actively punish men. The study on who benefits from DEI found it’s almost 70% women, and 40% of those women are white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:51 PM
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It all makes sense once you realise how mentally unstable and insane most of these women are right now. Some geneticists are starting to notice that left wing women and men have a high genetic mutation rate. They can actually predict a woman’s politics fairly accurately based on facial symmetry and body weight. This applies to men as well, the correlation just isn’t as strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:44 PM
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The more money a woman had the more she chooses a husband based on genetics not behaviour. It’s actually very dystopian. Men select mostly based on behavioural traits and if they can’t get what they want they fall in love with what they can have. If women can’t get the man they want, they won’t compromise. This is why immigration needs to be exclusively marriage visas.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:31 PM
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You are 100% correct. This is why I despise this class of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:15 PM
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It’s easier to blend in with the upper middle class than you think. Just show them you believe whatever stupid thing they say that they believe. The funny thing is that none of the smart people actually believe it, and that’s the test. As for mannerisms, just speak very indirectly and act like you care about people and things you don’t actually care about. I don’t know if it’s me or them, but they feel more fake and less human every year. Overall, you make a great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:13 PM
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They are way more shallow. Men are looking primarily for behaviour. Women are looking for genetics and it’s way more narrow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:49 PM
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This is just dumb. Sexual access is a relationship. It’s the most impactful relationship. You have to stop being so self absorbed and look at reality, not just what benefits you. I feel this is the biggest gap between men and women in most countries. Men care about making their countries better for everyone, women will burn it all to the ground for their own short term benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:46 PM
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…. And birth rates fell 26% to the lowest on record. Ok. Think you might be correct. This is counterintuitive to me because most of my life it’s poor people who had the most children. Today it’s rich people and religious people. Everyone else seems sterile. Lots of Gen Z men are wanting kids, non religious Gen Z women never want kids if we believe polls. I don’t see the economy changing. Mass immigration has suppressed wages for blue collar workers since the mid 1980s. The resistance to sending …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:59 PM
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The term we use today is Pay Pig. I don’t know any of these guys. Everyone I know wants some reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:36 AM
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Women bitch endlessly about doing more down the line and in my experience they rarely do unless they are with a man baby… on second thought it might be more common than not these days. Point is that it’s an ancient system that isn’t working for anyone. An extra month or two of work at the start isn’t worth 40 years of laundry. Also massive costs and work upfront are a huge barrier to entry for young men that are already burdened with debt and the women have more money than them. It’s like being …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:53 AM
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Hey, I just wanted to say, hang in there and keep trying. Nothing will ever be perfect, but you will eventually find your path. Best wishes!
/r/ExRedPill30/01/26 06:18 AM
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I hear Nazi anything and it makes me think your IQ is low. As for Hoe Math, he is correct on some stuff but not on others. Also he intentionally picks out nutty women to analyse. Lucky for him the supply today is bottomless. My assessment of the situation is based ancient philosophers understanding of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:53 AM
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No, moving to a country uninvited and then forcing the native people to accept your way of life is colonialism. I’m more into marrying into the local culture and becoming one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:34 AM
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So here is the thing, women see low status things as either babies or trash. If it’s dangerous then it’s trash. If it needs its diaper changed it’s a baby. High status men are to be desired and mindlessly followed. Immigrants even the mass pedophile types are babies. Hard working schmucks are trash. Nepo baby men are hot. The way out is to not be low status. This stuff is all feelings and not based on reality. Actually to about 60 or 70% of women nothing exists but their feelings. So if you act …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:29 AM
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Great Depression was bad too, but people still found love. This is feminism plus technology plus oppression of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:48 AM
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If they aren’t teaching game then they aren’t Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:28 AM
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The difference is wider than that. It’s more like from Judaism to Mormons. But yeah if you are one of the male feminist types I’m sure they look the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:23 AM
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The point of being honest early is to give her a chance to dip out before emotions get involved. If you aren’t sleeping together women fall in love slower than men anyway. If you want to get into the psychology… it’s not just one thing, but yes something is definitely broken. With millennials it was commonly being considered unattractive as a teen and then getting cheated on or abused in a relationship later. Most of the guys were very intelligent, and high empathy. Gen Z really feels like an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:29 AM
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100%. I have always been against playing with low experience women unless a guy is up front about his past and is completely committed to being serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:56 AM
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I did PUA and asking for numbers was just one of many ways to meet women. The most effective was through social circles. Almost all the other PUA guys switched to that too during COVID. If I was going to give you advice on how to avoid players… just look for guys who are not awkward at all, almost a little too smooth. Their main goal is building attraction, so they will be intentionally mysterious and playful. We will seem constantly busy, but will get intense with you quickly and it will usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:11 AM
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I feel bad for you. This is probably the absolute best way to meet and fall in love, but it’s almost impossible today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:41 AM
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What is the expectation? Men almost never ask out women they think aren’t physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:19 AM
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Meeting in person is the safest and best way to go for women and the one that helps men feel emotionally invested. Apps and online dating is horrible for everyone with Instagram being the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:45 AM
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The Elites benefit way too much from Woke policies. They will just rebrand them and start pushing again. It’s been going on for 200 years. Look at how they will sacrifice pawns to achieve goals. 100% they knew people were going to die in Minnesota if local police don’t keep people from fighting border patrol. They got the martyrs they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:29 PM
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Progs are about 30% and if you look at young white women jts like 60% to 80% in some areas. This is why shooting the white lesbian didn’t cause much of a stir. We are all really tired of these kinds of Nuclear Karens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:16 PM
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Trump doesn’t even pretend to care about body positivity. The reason this bothers everyone is that left wing women can’t even live up to their own moral standards, yet demand everyone else has to. It’s like you only hate Trump because he acts just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:13 PM
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Just an FYI because I know the culture and the area, the men who used online dating from 2000 to 2008 were the ones who were failing everywhere else or were cheating. Not a lot of good options back then. I was unhappily married so my point of reference is talking to other men about it. You are a wonderful person to give these guys a shot, I’m sorry so many were creeps. I hope you have found your life partner now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:07 PM
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…. I live there too. Was dating a lot about 15 years back. Our area just has a lot of very weird men with zero to no social skills. If it makes you feel better the women are crazy too and dress like lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:59 PM
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Negging works like magic. You just have to do it playfully. Women do the exact same thing, we call it shit testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:51 PM
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100%, but also social media fuelled insane standards have a mass impact on other people. This is why the government needs to provide support for men who want to get married but are locked out by crazy standards. Something that vets the men for seriousness and safety, while also teaching them basic relationship skills. You can certify them and then connect them to women from other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:41 PM
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Have you heard of this new technology called social media? It’s essentially a reality distortion engine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:16 PM
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I was a jock in college. Actually, I was captain of the jocks. Before that I was a nerdy kid that women didn’t like… even the ugly girls. I can’t even begin to explain my complete shock and dismay at being with the popular guys and seeing the difference in how girls treat them. Some of those guys weren’t even good looking, just athletic and popular. The guys who think women are all about looks in a man are fools. Here is the thing though, no matter how much a woman fits the cultural beauty stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:04 PM
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He never had the confidence to try. A chubby less pretty woman who is passionate about you is better than a beautiful woman who just settles for you. At 27 I was not too different from him. My XWife had a work affair but wanted to work it out. I was comfortable and I really considered it, especially because we both made lots of money and her family was very wealthy and loved me a lot. I had no confidence. I eventually learned to date, and I got really good at it. I started doing really well with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:58 PM
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It’s a strategy. You take a man who is safe until you have a shot with one that is more attractive to you. Don’t you call this settling? Keep in mind, this is not all women, it’s like 30-60% depending on where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:10 PM
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Do you want to live like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:46 PM
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The world is a big place, don’t waste your time with women that don’t see your value. They have been together a long time and instead of building him up she is keeping his confidence down. If she isn’t enjoying sex that’s on her. She just doesn’t see his value only his convenience. Sex tourism is stupid. Instead go build relationships that aren’t based on money, but instead on attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:36 PM
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Nope. This has been studied using body fat and facial symmetry. Men are less picky in regards to looks than women in online dating and only rarely looking for women outside their range. Furthermore speed dating studies showed that if you put an a man’s attraction levels to any particular woman do not change based on what is perceived to be available. Women however do this in a remarkable way. The more attractive men she sees the more she will demand from a potential match, and her own looks only…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:44 AM
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The problem most guys run into is that while part of it is about making her feel desirable, if you are boring or ugly, or quite literally anything that she sees as a turn off, then everything becomes 100 times harder. If she had a bad day at work multiply by 10 again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:36 AM
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He’s average in the small corner of the world where he lives, but top 1% worldwide. She’s average where they live but bottom 30% worldwide. Think about it, he can go to 100 different countries in the world and find a better wife. What is she going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:00 AM
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It’s takes more than just licking and rubbing for a lot of ladies. You need to get them into the right head space.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:55 AM
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What you don’t realize is that a lot of those guys go from zero to hero on dating apps when they get good photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:50 AM
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Do you know how much impulse control young men have? Yeah young women are the same but with even more susceptibility to pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:42 AM
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Hmmm… Luigi Mangioni would disagree with what you are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:12 PM
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I feel like I can speak for most scumbags here… we love women of all types. They love us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:31 PM
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The scumbags are often a highly sought after commodity to many average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:00 PM
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This doesn’t actually say anything about where the bar is at. You need to see a guy with lots of success to see where it’s at.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:08 PM
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Inexperienced men will not be capable of recognising the truth contained here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:06 PM
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That depends on the woman. The better looking the man, the more you are going to be aware of how bad you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:01 PM
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